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Here is your plaque for 10 years of service as

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a business development coordinator. Thank you.

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thank you.

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that's it, mayor, thank you.

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all right, next up is a presentation

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it's gonna be

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proclamations b, armature radio week

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and do I have, is ben here? Yes

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good. It's good to see you. You too.

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see some familiar faces

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so I'm going to read the proclamation for armature radio week. But for those that

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don't know,

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with armature radio, while many see it as a hobby, they also play a critical role

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during disasters

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it's my understanding that you guys volunteer with the broward eoc and potentially

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the state during natural disasters,

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especially after hurricanes for, you know, communication, lines of communication. And

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they're having an event, if you want to

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mentioned the dates. Fill day is the last end of june.

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last weekend of june, they're having their field day. The 27th and the 28th of june

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will be our field day, and it'll be a quiet waters park at 401 south power line.

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and I've been to that, the last couple years, and it's pretty neat. They actually,

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through

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radios, can communicate with people across the world if the weather is, and

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everything lines up

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so I will try to be there on sunday to stop by and see you guys. And I know that tom

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savoka is also involved. He

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had work tonight, he couldn't be here for those that are wondering where tom is.

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so now I'll read the proclamation

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whereas amateur radio operators are celebrating over a century of the miracle of the

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human voice broadcast over the airwaves.

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and whereas amateur radio has continued to provide a bridge between peoples,

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societies, and countries by creating friendships

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and the sharing of ideas. And whereas amateur radio operators have also provided

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countless hours

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of community service, both in emergencies and to other local organizations throughout

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these decades

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and whereas these armature radio services are provided wholly uncompensated,

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and whereas the state also recognizes the services amateur radios

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people also provide to our many emergency response organizations

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and whereas the city of margate recognizes and appreciates the diligence of these

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hams, who also

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serve as weather spotters in the skywarn program of the national weather service, and

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whereas

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a-r-r-l is the national association for armature radio in the usa, and whereas the

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arrl amateur radio field

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day exercise will take place on june 27th and 28th, 2026, and is a 24-hour emergency

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preparedness exercise

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and demonstration of the radio amateur skills and readiness to provide

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self-supporting communications without further infrastructure being required.

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and now, in a moment, I will present to you the plaque with the

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city seal signed by myself, the mayor, and the commissioners

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and I'll read the rest.

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signed by the mayor, the commissioners, and the armature radio week, and we appreciate

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everything that you do for the community, especially in times of need. Thank you.

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we'll see you on sunday. Yep, I've seen you.

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we need to squish. I can't see that gentlemen

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and elsa's going to get a picture, too

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these are also all served members from parkland and coral springs,

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so I am very proud to be a part of your cert team. Thank you

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thank you. Thank you.

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but if you could just take those off to the side, please

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thanks again. Thank you.

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okay, next up is public discussion. You have three

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minutes to speak about anything that's not on the agenda.

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donna fellows, margate resident for six more months. Yay! But I just wanted to find

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out something. I

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haven't been here for a while due to circumstances and I just wanted to ask if the

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fair owner has paid up

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I've been wanting to ask this, but I haven't been here.

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it's an item on the agenda tonight, however, it's my understanding he has paid

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in full plus interest. Yes. Okay, so now I hold the ones that have voted for it

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has learned their lessons

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because the residents have been trying to tell you this

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obviously, if he didn't pay the first time, the 100,000 and finally came up with it

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because he was putting in

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another thing, I hope you all have learned your lessons because the residents have

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been talking to you, but obviously

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you are ignoring residents

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you're not listening to the residents when they're speaking

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so to me, this is a disgrace

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for the ones who are running again, or who are running against people, or running

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for it, I hope that you do not follow in these footsteps that have been already done.

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because of the fact that if you are, you're just gonna be losing

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a lot of people

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so I think that it's best that maybe you all think about what you're doing and start

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listening to your residents and what your residents really want, and what they

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are really saying to you in reference to this, because I know I have spoke to a lot

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of you in reference to this carnival thing, and him doing this, and why are we

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bringing him back here for it, which almost led us into litigation

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against him, which would have cost the residents more money

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because we're having to pay for the attorneys to go there and represent the

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city, which is wrong. Listen to your residents when they say no, it's no

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if it's only one resident telling you this, but it's not just one resident

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I know there's a few residents that have been saying it, and this

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is really ridiculous. Listen to your residents and take it from them

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don't just do it to line your own pockets for your campaign money of whatever it was,

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$1,000, $1,500 he used

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to give you, and josh rydell. Josh rydell stood up at this podium here and lied to

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you, saying he would never

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do that again. Well, he did it to us again, and

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look, we finally got it. Fine. Thank you. Thank you.

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good evening, jonathan crojick, margaret resident. Public trust in government is at a

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historic low, including at the local level, according to research

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by pew and gallup. Trust is not built through words alone, it's built through actions.

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when elected officials promise one thing and do another.

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public trust suffers. When tactics are used to avoid transparency, the sunshine law

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and the creation of public records,

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trust suffers. When an ordinance is passed to later not be adhered to by giving

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support and promoting an individual

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who is in clear violation of that said ordinance. Trust suffers. When a commission

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adopts rules of procedure,

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but does not consistently follow those same rules, while expecting residents to do so,

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trust suffers

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and when the city manager and city attorney appear more focused on

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satisfying the commission rather than serving the residents, trust suffers.

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if we want residents to trust the government, then government must demonstrate

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trustworthiness

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by honoring its commitments, following its own rules, and upholding the oath of office

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as trust in government declines, it is natural that residents will seek to petition

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their government and voice their concerns. The first amendment protects that right.

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unfortunately, city halls across florida and the nation have increasingly become

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battlegrounds over public participation, and margate is no

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exception. The current mayor has continuously suppressed free speech and public

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participation at meetings by discontinuing zoom public comment

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starting when he was last mayor in 2022. And for zoom, only to be brought back by the

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following mayor. And

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then again, this mayor took away the public's ability to comment using zoom once he

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got back in rain this year

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it's as though public comment is perceived as a threat. In 2022, the mayor removed

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the public's ability to

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have three minutes to comment on the consent agenda as a whole, only for it to never

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be brought back since.

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the mayor's latest attack on public comment came this year, when both of the two

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required monthly commission

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meetings are held on the same night. This mayor no longer recognizes public comment

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for the first of the two meetings

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although, once again, it's in the rules of procedure that this commission adopted,

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which states the second item of each commission

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meeting shall be public comment, limiting opportunities for public participation

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weakens public confidence in government

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if this commission truly wants to restore trust, it should lead by example, follow

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its own rules, expand opportunities

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for public comment, and demonstrate the resident voices are valued rather than viewed

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as an inconvenience. Thank you.

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good evening, elsa sanchez, moorgate resident

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at the last meeting, there were different opinions about the proposed idea of

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making changes and removing property taxes and what the consequences could be.

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comments were made about reviewing the city budget and maybe making some cuts. I hope

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the change does not happen,

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because I do not know what the city would be able to do as far as keeping up services

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and real expenses. But

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if they're going to be cuts in the city budget, I would like to suggest that the $600

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cal allowance that four of the commissioners receive every month could be one of them

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you will know that I have been against this from the beginning because I think

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it's an abuse of power since you proposed it, voted and approved it yourselves

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and just to that point, I know that the vice mayor attends events by bicycle, so I

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don't know if he

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does for health reasons, or if he does for if he does not have a car.

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so I'm wondering about that, too.

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does he still get the $600 car allowance? Does

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he have a car? I would like to an answer to that.

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another thing that happened at the last meeting was what I considered to be childish,

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unprofessional, and embarrassing

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behavior, when from the day as commissioners attack each other and bring up past

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issues and subjects about each other

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I have seen that happen here quite often, and I will continue to

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call it out to try to see if we can stop that, or we can change

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I really am embarrassed about it. Yes, you have the right to disagree and discuss

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issues, but just because

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someone disagrees or you're not getting what you want, there should not be this

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immature, unprofessional

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and embarrassing behavior. But I want to end with a positive comment. I

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want to thank city manager kel curtis, parks and recreation mike jones

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public works do. Another city staff that are doing such a

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beautiful job sprucing up the city for the 4th of july celebration

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and they are not doing that just for the 4th of july.

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they always do that. So thank you. I appreciate you.

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thank you

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hello, mindy w. Lee, 27-year resident of margate. I have two things I want to discuss.

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the first one is just a point of clarification. At the last meeting,

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commissioner arsario brought something up, and I just wanted to clarify it, and I'm

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not campaigning, but he had said that I had ran for the city commission in the past

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he encouraged all the residents to google the sun sentinel to see the horrible things

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that they wrote about me.

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I'm guessing here, arsario, you must have been 14 or 15 when I ran the first time, so

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probably did not know that the sun sentinel actually endorsed me when I ran. For

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those of you that don't know what that means, it means that they chose me as the best

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candidate when I was running way back then

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so that's the first thing I'd like to point out. Now, why I'm here tonight is very

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important. I would like all five of you to vote in a moratorium for six months on any

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development deals that are possibly going to be signed into

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contract this year. Why? Because of what she just said. The property tax amendment is

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on the ballot in november. If that passes, we are going to lose a ton of revenue.

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we will not be able to operate the city without that tax revenue.

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that money can no longer be spent on fire, police, maintenance, building, landscape,

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even city salaries cannot be used on the money that we're

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getting from the property taxes. And we're about to sign away millions of dollars

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worth of real estate that we as taxpayers helped you buy

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the deal that you're putting into place right now, a 99-year lease worth the

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developer, that is not what the city wants. 2,000 residents signed a petition to tell

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you that they are against the

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development deals that are going on right now. Listen to the people of margate. You

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don't have five votes up there to decide what our future is going to be regarding

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that land. And we right now

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need that land in case we can't operate the budget come 2027.

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it's the worst-case scenario is, we could sell the land, take some of those millions,

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and pay for the services that we need. And I don't think any of

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you are taking that into consideration. So, rosano, I'm looking at you, sir.

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I'd like for you to make a motion.

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I'd like you to second the motion and bring it before the commission tonight and I

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hope that one of you

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has it in your heart to listen to the residents and think about the future of margate,

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because if we lose that tax revenue come the end of the year, the city, I don't care

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who's sitting up on that

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board, will not be able to run this city. Last meeting, he… city manager said we

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needed $1.6 million to pay for the firefighters that we have in place right now.

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if we do all of this development

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how are we going to pay for the firefighters and the police and all the other things

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that we need when we don't have the revenue from the property? So

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we need to take that into consideration right now. The future of margate and all the

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residents are in your hands. So please, tonight, pass a moratorium

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six months isn't going to make or break any development negotiation that you're

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dealing with right now, but it could possibly break the city, break the home that

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all decided to live in. 20 seconds. That's all I have to say. Please do the right

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thing, make the motion, second it. I'm begging arlene, pass it, please, tonight, guys.

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give us 6 months till we see what the city holds with

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the property tax bill. That's my time. Thank you.

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I think rich has a few

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I guess you forgot about rentals.

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before I start talking, just a question. Richard zucchini, lakewood circle. Before I

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start talking,

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stop, stop, stop the button. Item 7a, will the public be able to speak on item 7a?

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yes or no tonight?

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yeah.

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yeah, of course. I thought it was gonna be, postponed.

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are you referring to 6a, the military? Oh, I'm talking to 6a

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it's a development agreement. It still has to come up. It still has to come up, yes.

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but if

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you're going to table it, then the public doesn't have the chance to speak about it.

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correct.

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you'll have the opportunity to speak about it when it comes back up

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your honors want me to start your clock? Yes, please. More

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than likely, I won't be able to speak about it tonight.

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okay, a couple questions. Your name? We need a better quality of candidates running

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for commission that

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know what they're talking about. It's just absurd. On the one hand, you talk about

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the loss of revenue

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possible for homestead exemption. And on the other hand, you say stop development,

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which is exactly what is needed to generate

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the revenue. So, you know, it makes no sense when these candidates come up, and they

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don't know what they're talking about

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they don't know what the brownfield act is. They don't know what the live local act

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is. They don't know what the infill development

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act is, and they come up out of ignorance, and they think they know what they're

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talking about. It's just amazing. You know.

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we hired ron book as our lobbyist, and he came up in a previous meeting and presented

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and said, hey city,

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be aware, we are losing our home rule. So anytime we can do a development and have

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input to the development

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we should grab it, because very soon, we're not going to have that ability.

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like tonight, with the golf course, they can come back and they could say we want you

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to declare it brownfield and they would have every right to

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do that. It was a golf course. It is a brownfield. Then they would build whatever

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they want to build, and they wouldn't have to come back before you

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for permission, including the infield act. So, you know, the people that are coming

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up and think that they're campaigning and appealing

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to people by saying, no, no development, that's exactly what we need to generate

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revenue, to make up for, likely, what's going to pass

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and that is the homestead exemption

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the other issue is cra. You know, again, it's just so disappointing. We have

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nominated a developer. We don't

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call them in to have workshop meetings in front of the public, in front of all five

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board members on the cra

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to discuss

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what they have in mind. What's going to happen is you're setting them up for failure

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again. They're gonna come up with a plan, and you're gonna

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say, oh, no, no, I don't like it. Where you didn't… they can't read your mind. You

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don't give them a chance to present and have interaction with you

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so that the board can come to a consensus. And I think it's about time, like mr.

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rosano said, some many years ago, that we should have a new

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cra chair every year. So I'm going to nominate arlene schwartz. I think she should be

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the new cra chair, and maybe the vice chair should be

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joanne simone, we've had seven years of rosano as chair, and we didn't get anything

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accomplished. So

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please, let's put that on the agenda. The new cra chair. Yeah, no, no, lift it up,

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make sure I'm on camera.

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anybody else? Okay.

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projects to follow

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lauren, baraka, margate resident

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the first thing I wanted to say is, I found out at the last meeting

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a lifesaver. If any awards are given out for anything, he should definitely be

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nominated.

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he probably would have been good running for commissioner, because you call him

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you text him and within 24 hours he takes he

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he comes up with a solution, and he has made it so much easier of being a

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representative of a community when you have somebody like gio that, I mean

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out of the ordinary. So I really would like to say that. And then of course

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mayor, you always say, I have something negative to say, so here we go. I think it's

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very unfair. Kajiani, you're

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shaking your head at me. I don't, I don't… I'm not… okay. So, anyway, what happens is

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that when we get up to speak

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we have people that are making faces at us, rolling their eyes, or an eye roll, but

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I'm up here for that. And, it's very disrespectful, to have that happen, because

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some of us, it's hard for us to come up and speak, like myself, and so when I see

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that going on, you know, it really is

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unfair. And then we go and we sit down, and then we're pretty much attacked by the

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person that doesn't like what we're saying

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so I think it's very unfair that residents get to speak, voice our feelings

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about what's going on, and then get attacked afterwards. Thank you.

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nina culver, moorgate resident

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I was actually shocked when I got their awards today, that I knew everybody that

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had gotten them. Manny from fire has always been a tremendous community partner.

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I can remember the first time I met paul. He was extremely helpful over at the

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building department. I couldn't find my way or how to process papers, and he was just

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it was amazing

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gio's always great, but I just wanted to come up and say that,

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you know, the last meeting was a bit of a circus. It really was

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but other than the normal few crazy comments, you

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guys did very well. So I just wanted to give props.

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have a good night.

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as you're running your election now

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please no outbursts from the crowd

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thank you. You could be asked, you may be asked to leave if you do it again.

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I can wait.

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okay, public discussions closed.

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commission comments?

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commissioner schwartz, go ahead. Mrs. Baraka, geo has a better job.

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he's got job security.

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sitting up here, you don't have that. So I'm sure he's happier exactly where he is.

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with that in mind, I want to remind — well, actually, I was going to remind you about

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hurricane supplies, but since the vice mayor is here,

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I'll let him do that. I am going to remind you that children are out of school.

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it would be great if people stopped parking over the sidewalk

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kids are out of school, people are pushing strollers, people are in wheelchairs.

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it's an ada

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violation. That's a national policy that you cannot obstruct the sidewalk. It would

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be great if one day

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in this city, people stopped doing it

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having said that, apparently when it comes time to vote, we're going to have a new

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school board member to vote for because

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nora rupert chose at the last minute, I guess, not to qualify. So pay attention to

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whoever that may be who's running

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right now, I have no clue. And actually, that might be a good thing because

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margate has issues and perhaps someone new will pay attention to them.

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with that, happy father's day on june 21st. I wish everyone who is a father has the

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role of a father, is about to be a father, or is just a good

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guy to some kid. Happy father's day. I wish you all an absolutely sunny, great day to

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take advantage of it. And that's all for me, thank you.

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and gio, he turned a beautiful shade of red.

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commissioner simone

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yes, I'd also like to congratulate our employees for the great service they do for

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the city, our fire

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department is the best in the county. We're very proud of them. Each and every one of

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them is extremely

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proficient in what they do, and very helpful to the residents. So, manny, that was

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well deserved, and liz from our, development services director, she

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was absolutely correct in what she said about paul. At grand openings, all we hear is

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accolades for paul. How helpful he was and what a great asset

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to the community and to the businesses that he was. So that

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was well-deserved. So thank you, paul, for what you do.

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the sign that's in the works on paradise gardens looks awesome.

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yeah, it's not, it's in the early stages, but if you haven't seen it, it looks really

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nice, so I'm sure it is going to be beautiful when it's done. So, great job on that.

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mentioning children, you know, that summer is here, it's extremely warm outside, so

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if your child does not know how

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to swim, please take advantage of the swim central voucher. You can apply for a

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voucher. It's free to apply. It's $55.

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worth has a net value of $55. You can bring it to calypso cove and it will defer the

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cost of what calypso cove charges for swim lessons.

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so it's well worth it. Please take advantage of that. We hear all the time how many

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drownings there are of children over the summer

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so take advantage. And lastly, I implore you to, if fireworks are not banned from

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the governor this year because of the drought, please take advantage of going

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to a professional fireworks display and not do them in your own backyard.

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it's very disturbing to the

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veterans, it's very disturbing to pets, it's very disturbing to your neighbors who

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get up in the morning

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and see the soot and the ash on their cars. Have a fear that night that the roof may

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be burned

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from the fireworks landing on their roof, and also the harm that it causes dogs not

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only that night

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but also the following day, when you take your dog out, and they see the paper and

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the rolls with

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the material still inside that dogs are curious, they put it in their mouth, and it's

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deadly to them.

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so please think about your neighbors, be courteous, be a good neighbor,

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don't light fireworks at your house. It's for your own safety as well.

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and with that, I think that's it. Thank you.

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yes, good afternoon. Good evening everyone

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gio, you got a lot of props tonight, good job. But

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but, there's a guy sitting here, where is he here? I don't even know

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if he's here. Kurt, you here? Is kurt here? Yes, he is, isn't that?

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cal, can you just refresh everybody about the letter you sent us

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this week that involved kurt with the, the water department with the

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oh.

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yeah, put me on a spot. You gonna save that? Were you gonna save that?

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I'll let you think about it, and then when it comes to you…

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it's, you know, just real quick, so, I got an email

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from, kurt, which was authored by marta resko, who's the assistant director for the

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water plant over there. And as you all know, we have, you know, a $100 million bond

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project in the works

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a lot of design and planning going on

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and, you know, we're dealing with a lot of aging infrastructure over

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there that has become obsolete, but through the collective efforts of

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department staff, you know, their hard work, their ingenuity, they were able to

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bring back to life one of the older systems that we have and get some extra life out

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of it, and do that in-house with in-house labor.

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and so a lot of blood, sweat, and tears and the details of that email tell the story

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much better than what I'm telling right now

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but what I close the email off with you, and what I genuinely feel is that we are in

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great hands

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when it comes to using these bond dollars for the system, that we have the right

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people in place

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with the right mindset, the right work ethic that will utilize these funds and

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get the most bang for our buck and set the city up for the next 40 years. So

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that's the story. Thank you. I appreciate that, kurt. And I'm not comparing you guys

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or anything, but you guys all do a great job. We heard about the fire chief tonight,

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the public works and these guys do an incredible job and I just want to say thank you.

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and when the residents come up and say it means even more to us. So great job, guys.

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keep doing it. July 4th, the 4th of july

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parade, don't miss it. Starts at 9, I think nine

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on july 4th. Oh, the little dolls. So check.

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each one of the commissioners has a little, it's

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not a bobblehead, I don't even know what it is.

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it's like funko pop. What is it? So the… you'll see them around there, they're funko

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pops. They're little cartoon caricatures, and, you

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know, they're caricatures, but they're sold, there's a brand name of them, funko pops,

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and so these were, 3d printed by our assistant

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director. Parks and rec. Parks and rec team. They got photos of us, loaded it into an

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ai software and

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had our pictures turned into these funko pops. And then they loaded that image into

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the 3d printer

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which produced these, these, you know, customized, caricatures of you all. And then,

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ben and his, spare time, hand-painted all of these, and, and they all have

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little individual details that, that reflect you all, and so, he surprised me with

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them, earlier this week, and, and so we've surprised you with them here tonight

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ben, thank you. And it's funny, when you mentioned ben, he always says it's not ben,

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it's public works. I'm stuck on gio. It's

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parks and rec. Ben's a humble guy, and you guys do a great job, and mike jones,

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everybody from there down, you do a great job.

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mayor, the golf course item we're going to be able to talk about that tonight, or we

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just if there's a motion to table it, because I just had a couple

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questions when it comes up, so… yeah, I believe, I believe, yeah, I mean, as far as

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reviewing the hearing that they were going to have, they are

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postponing that, so they're not going to be here. But if there's some housekeeping

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things that we want to talk

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about… that's all, and I'd appreciate it. That's it, guys. Thank you. God bless, and

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thank you. Take care.

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vice mayor

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thank you, ben. It's so cool.

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thank you.

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I talk about it often every meeting, whether it's cra meeting or commission meeting

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I talk about june 1st being the start of hurricane season

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00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
and

459
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
anyone who

460
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,966
opens up the news this morning, saw that the first storm of

461
00:45:39,966 --> 00:45:45,966
the season hit today in the panhandle. Tropical storm arthur

462
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
causing

463
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
dangerous flooding

464
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
I don't care what you want to call it

465
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,200
global warming, warming, cow farts, climate change

466
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
whatever it is, the storms are coming

467
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:09,000
faster and harder and I'm going to say it over and over and over again.

468
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
start preparing now.

469
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000
start preparing now.

470
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:19,000
buy a little extra food, buy some canned stuff, go out and get

471
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:27,000
a jug for gasoline for your generator. Get it now before they're all gone

472
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,000
do it now a little bit at a time

473
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,590
because when a storm hits and the stores are empty,

474
00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:36,000
you're not going to be able to get what you need.

475
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,750
so I'm going to say what I say all the time.

476
00:46:38,750 --> 00:46:42,000
prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare, prepare

477
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,000
and I hope to see all of you at the 4th of july

478
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
just be safe. Thank you.

479
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,000
all right, good evening, everyone.

480
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,764
as mentioned, the 4th of july is fast approaching, and we have a day full of

481
00:46:55,764 --> 00:46:57,000
festivities, 9 a.m. Is the parade,

482
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,550
I believe from 1 to 4 is going to be a pool party at calypso cove, and then starting

483
00:47:00,550 --> 00:47:03,550
at 5 o'clock to about 9 o'

484
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,192
the evening event and fireworks, so come out for that. And while I'm on the other

485
00:47:11,192 --> 00:47:11,981
side of commissioner

486
00:47:11,981 --> 00:47:15,251
simone on 4th of july and fireworks, because I know there's going to be people that

487
00:47:15,251 --> 00:47:17,651
will light them off

488
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,340
I personally am someone that likes to light fireworks, but

489
00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:29,000
while I will agree with her is you need to be considerate

490
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
and pick up after yourselves

491
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,421
I know our neighbors the next morning were up bright and early cleaning the street

492
00:47:34,421 --> 00:47:35,985
off, picking stuff up because you don't want a dog or

493
00:47:35,985 --> 00:47:38,376
something to pick it up. So we do have a or child, we do have a show. It's great.

494
00:47:38,376 --> 00:47:46,176
come out and see it. If you are going to light them off

495
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,000
just be a good neighbor and clean up your mess when you're done

496
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,910
something that's coming up which I'm kind of surprised by now. We don't recognize it,

497
00:47:54,910 --> 00:47:55,100
but juneteenth, I know in

498
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,982
the past year, 2 years when the calendar gets approved for the city days off, I've

499
00:47:57,982 --> 00:48:02,182
asked for it to be a holiday

500
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,591
I don't believe it is yet, but I would like to see it. It is a federal holiday.

501
00:48:10,591 --> 00:48:11,920
I know it's

502
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,773
a new federal holiday, but it's something that we should be observing here in the

503
00:48:14,773 --> 00:48:16,000
city.

504
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,000
and I'd also like consideration on for next year, some sort of

505
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,200
events or celebration or ceremony for juneteent

506
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000
I know most of the other cities are doing it

507
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,000
so if we can look into that

508
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:39,000
for next year, does anyone have an issue with it being holiday with the city

509
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
I'll let cal go into it and see what he

510
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,400
what the numbers are

511
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,849
I don't have a problem with it. I just would rather

512
00:48:48,849 --> 00:48:53,000
cal have to take a look at it and see what would entail

513
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
okay.

514
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,922
I know the downtown came up a few times tonight. I have not seen any of the

515
00:48:58,922 --> 00:49:07,322
new reiterations of it. I, to be clear myself and commissioner rosano voted no

516
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,000
on it. I'm not against the development of a downtown, but it was a lot of units

517
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,750
and it's a piece of one of the few pieces of property left in the city that we can

518
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:24,000
control. We don't have control on most of the 441 corridor and now golf courses

519
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,748
so I was really adamant about making sure we get a proper balance in there. But

520
00:49:26,748 --> 00:49:27,965
myself and rosano voted no on that.

521
00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:30,170
I have not seen the renderings and the drawings since then.

522
00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:37,217
I do hope that we can get with the cra executive director

523
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,000
to find out when we're gonna have our next round of discussions with them

524
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,000
I can give you an update on it. So I had a meeting with brookfield this morning

525
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:58,000
and the development agreement provides for a schedule, and so the next

526
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,266
process is for them to come before the cra

527
00:50:01,266 --> 00:50:05,000
board with the initial or the preliminary design

528
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,930
per the meeting that we had this morning, it looks like that is going to be our next

529
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:12,719
cra meeting, so that'll be, I think it's july 9th, where they will present to you

530
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,719
their,

531
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:24,000
if it's preliminary or initial design and get feedback from you and the public

532
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,000
all right, thank you. Calypso cove, do we know when the pump is going to be

533
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
back and running again

534
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,800
ben, do you have an update on that?

535
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
in the process of being installed

536
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,161
midday today, we're starting it back up tomorrow.

537
00:50:43,161 --> 00:50:46,000
okay. So we should be back up by the weekend

538
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,440
so for the record, it's being installed as of now. It should be back up and running

539
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,630
by the weekend.

540
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:53,420
okay, perfect. Yeah, because I know a lot of residents have been asking about it.

541
00:50:53,420 --> 00:50:55,420
we've had some

542
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,674
bad luck recently. I know it was shut down a few weeks ago for a similar issue.

543
00:51:01,674 --> 00:51:02,100
it's my

544
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:09,000
understanding talking with the parks director that we are going to be getting a second

545
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,148
pumped to have so when one fails for redundancy, we can,

546
00:51:13,148 --> 00:51:17,000
while that one's being serviced, put the new one on.

547
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,208
that is correct. So the pump that's coming out will be refurbished. That'll go on a

548
00:51:20,208 --> 00:51:20,982
shelf, new pump will

549
00:51:20,982 --> 00:51:24,188
be in and so we will have a backup that is ready to go in case we find ourselves in

550
00:51:24,188 --> 00:51:26,188
this situation again.

551
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,000
perfect. And then just kind of a quick comment, wanted to thank kale. I know

552
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,751
I'm not thanking you for the hiring freeze, but I know there's a hiring freeze in

553
00:51:35,751 --> 00:51:37,589
anticipation for any potential tax implications. I know with that sometimes you can't

554
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:38,100
foresee everything,

555
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,838
so there may be a position here or there that we may deem critical or that we need to

556
00:51:39,838 --> 00:51:41,632
second review. I know something was brought to my attention with fire and a chief's

557
00:51:41,632 --> 00:51:43,632
training position

558
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,530
and so I know a meeting was set up with the union and the chief and yourself,

559
00:51:58,530 --> 00:52:05,000
and you guys are working through that. So just thank you for being open and

560
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,236
sometimes there's things need to be adjusted or exceptions made.

561
00:52:07,236 --> 00:52:08,913
so I don't know the final outcome of that, but I

562
00:52:08,913 --> 00:52:11,777
know that you guys are working on a solution. Yes, sir. That's correct. All right,

563
00:52:11,777 --> 00:52:15,977
and that's all I have city attorney

564
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,928
thank you, alan gabriel, for davitosis. He sends his regards and wishes everyone a

565
00:52:23,928 --> 00:52:32,000
happy day and he's obviously not here, I am and happy to be here with you. Thank you.

566
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:39,800
the manager? Nothing further to add tonight. Thanks. City clerk, go. Go ahead.

567
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,490
since it has been brought up, and you said that the next time we see something from

568
00:52:42,490 --> 00:52:44,990
brookfield will be at our next cra meeting, and there are certain things scheduled,

569
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:46,148
and that the public can get up and speak, is there a possibility that there will be

570
00:52:46,148 --> 00:52:53,948
city workshops so that the public actually gets to see something in advance

571
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000
and then gets up to question

572
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,835
yes, the possibility for that is there. What I would suggest is we have this initial

573
00:53:02,835 --> 00:53:04,170
presentation, and based on feedback

574
00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:06,886
from the board, you may need to solicit further, you know, public input. You may want

575
00:53:06,886 --> 00:53:09,886
to provide further input yourself

576
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,366
but I think we get the initial reaction from you as the board and from the public at

577
00:53:19,366 --> 00:53:20,972
that meeting, and then we'll know where to go from there.

578
00:53:20,972 --> 00:53:23,338
okay, because I will suggest that then we have workshops afterwards. This is for the

579
00:53:23,338 --> 00:53:31,138
future of the city, one way or the other, the good, the bad

580
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
so thank you.

581
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,474
commissioner rosano? Yeah, I just want to say this. The one thing I'm

582
00:53:38,474 --> 00:53:42,000
totally against with this whole downtown project is the 99-year lease.

583
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,322
when I had mentioned months ago, meetings ago, whatever,

584
00:53:45,322 --> 00:53:49,000
about a 99-year lease, I was talking about the city renting to

585
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,756
businesses to come in for a 99-year lease. That would be the incentive to get them

586
00:53:51,756 --> 00:53:52,933
here. So when people hear about the

587
00:53:52,933 --> 00:53:55,622
99-year lease, there's no way in I would ever vote for a 99-year lease to give a

588
00:53:55,622 --> 00:53:59,822
developer a piece of property where we're

589
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,000
never gonna do anything. We have no say on it for 99 years.

590
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,165
so to me, that's the worst part of the whole deal, the 99-year lease. What they're

591
00:54:08,165 --> 00:54:10,400
going to develop, who knows what it's going to be. But if there's going

592
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,152
to be something that we want, I know donna and I want a steakhouse, if we want a

593
00:54:12,152 --> 00:54:20,552
steakhouse, that money to get them here, it's going to come out of the

594
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,749
the money that the city's gonna receive.

595
00:54:23,749 --> 00:54:26,660
so I can tell you this, whatever we want, we're going

596
00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:29,738
to get charged for it. So look, looking at the projected numbers that we're supposed

597
00:54:29,738 --> 00:54:31,000
to get

598
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,416
they're all just numbers, it's just, as we were told earlier,

599
00:54:34,416 --> 00:54:38,000
arlene, placeholders years ago. They're just placeholders there.

600
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,972
but, a 99-year lease is totally crazy to give a developer. We're better

601
00:54:41,972 --> 00:54:47,000
off selling the property and putting restrictions on what we want there.

602
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,400
that's all. Thank you.

603
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,800
okay, commission comments is closed. City manager report

604
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,000
yep, nothing further. Thank you. Okay, consent agenda.

605
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,152
and there's one item on the consent agenda, it's resolution 2026-155, a resolution of

606
00:55:03,152 --> 00:55:05,250
the city of margate, florida, approving a revocable license agreement with

607
00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:07,101
broward county and tcmc margate apartments llc, and assigns for the maintenance of

608
00:55:07,101 --> 00:55:13,101
landscaping and related improvements within the coconut creek parkway swale

609
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:26,000
adjacent to 5205-5231, coconut creek parkway and providing for an effective date

610
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,200
what is the wish of the commission

611
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,000
I'll second that. Please call the roll.

612
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,000
commissioner schwartz? Yes. Commissioner simone? Yes. Commissioner rosano? Yes.

613
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,000
vice mayor kagiano? Yes. Mayor serio.

614
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,753
yes, now we have public hearings 6a. I believe the applicant has requested a

615
00:55:45,753 --> 00:55:49,802
continuance to september, but city attorney, I believe we still reading, yes, yes,

616
00:55:49,802 --> 00:55:51,802
sir.

617
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,270
this is resolution 2026-154, resolution of the city of margate, florida, approving a

618
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:58,108
development agreement pursuant

619
00:55:58,108 --> 00:56:01,990
to florida statute section 163.3220-163.3243, known as the florida local government

620
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:03,990
development agreement act

621
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,380
to govern the development of the approximately 143.5 acres located north of royal

622
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:13,975
palm boulevard, south of west sample road, east of holiday springs boulevard,

623
00:56:13,975 --> 00:56:15,987
and west of north rock island road at 3011 north rock island road, providing for

624
00:56:15,987 --> 00:56:23,187
proposed development of 540 townhouses at a maximum density of 10 units per acre

625
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,495
not exceeding 35 feet in height, maximum of 30,000 square feet of commercial space,

626
00:56:33,495 --> 00:56:34,430
not exceeding

627
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:37,368
40 feet in height, and not less than 65.3 acres of open space, providing for an

628
00:56:37,368 --> 00:56:39,368
effective date.

629
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
this is a matter that

630
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,126
continuous is going to be considered, and I think

631
00:56:49,126 --> 00:56:53,000
it's a motion. I'll make a motion to the table

632
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
as long as he doesn't get a second, yes

633
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
go ahead, commissioner

634
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,476
thank you for allowing me to speak on it before we table it. First of all,

635
00:57:03,476 --> 00:57:07,000
I don't even think this should be tabled. I think this should be voted down

636
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,000
the property out there and

637
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,614
I mean, there's no hiding it, I don't like it, none of the residents don't like it.

638
00:57:13,614 --> 00:57:14,937
we went from apartments being out there to

639
00:57:14,937 --> 00:57:17,268
now townhomes being out there, and people kind of think that that's a win.

640
00:57:17,268 --> 00:57:24,000
to me, it's not a win for this project to be voted down

641
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,000
take a step back. That would be a win

642
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,000
but the way I look at it is we're not getting anything for this property.

643
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,882
I know arlene is kind of like, I don't know where

644
00:57:35,882 --> 00:57:39,000
she is on it, but I heard her say at the meeting that

645
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,332
maybe she's not in favor of as well. So, joanna, I'm going to ask you when this comes…

646
00:57:41,332 --> 00:57:42,959
tommy, I thought you and I, since we constantly hear who has

647
00:57:42,959 --> 00:57:45,183
the downtown, you and I have voted against this project. Yes, I didn't want to put

648
00:57:45,183 --> 00:57:53,583
words in your mouth. I just said that. No, I voted against it. Okay

649
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,000
so hopefully, joanne, I'm going to ask you, when this does come back, maybe you

650
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:04,000
can possibly fight for that building or something that the city's going to get.

651
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,840
because today, I heard that there's possibly going to be residential homes on there,

652
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,700
which

653
00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:15,000
is all new to me. Then I also got a call from a resident saying that they're out there

654
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,347
working on the lakes, measuring them, checking them, and now they're talking about

655
00:58:18,347 --> 00:58:19,100
filling them in,

656
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:22,388
which is all new to me. So there's a lot of people out there that don't really know

657
00:58:22,388 --> 00:58:24,388
what's going on

658
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,463
I don't know what's going on out there. I would

659
00:58:28,463 --> 00:58:32,000
love to see this thing stopped, not get approved

660
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,945
I think the owner of the property has driven this place into a nightmare

661
00:58:35,945 --> 00:58:41,000
for eight years. Not only the property, but the residents living out there

662
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,697
he was holding out for something that he was hoping to get from the

663
00:58:44,697 --> 00:58:50,000
commission, and he's already got his 3 votes to move on to the second reading.

664
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,645
but to me, this is a horrible project. It should not move forward, and something

665
00:58:52,645 --> 00:58:54,000
should have been done years ago about it.

666
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,810
there should have been fines all over that property. Residents get a fine for a blade

667
00:58:56,810 --> 00:59:01,100
of grass dead or something like that

668
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,693
this property just keeps on going and going,

669
00:59:05,693 --> 00:59:09,000
complaints, it doesn't really matter. Private property

670
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,425
you know what? The owner out there has been horrible to us and the residents.

671
00:59:11,425 --> 00:59:13,000
I'm not going to vote for this. I hope nobody else

672
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,677
will vote for it. Let's just end it and let them go back to the drawing board and let

673
00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:20,000
them work with the city and the residents.

674
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,616
to me, I don't think this is a good proposal.

675
00:59:22,616 --> 00:59:25,000
I heard from residents tonight, listen to

676
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,900
since your residence, listen to your people. So I support the people

677
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:36,000
on this, and there's no way I'm going to vote on this. Thank you.

678
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,500
commissioner schwartz? It's my understanding that actually they would… that the city

679
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:40,430
would like us

680
00:59:40,430 --> 00:59:42,420
to vote yes to postpone this, but I read it all.

681
00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:47,442
so my question more is, since there are changes

682
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,551
does that go back before development review and start all over again with the drc

683
00:59:52,551 --> 00:59:53,937
since it's not what was originally proposed?

684
00:59:53,937 --> 00:59:55,512
and so I'll tell you exactly what the changes are.

685
00:59:55,512 --> 01:00:02,712
it's getting rid of the commercial property and building either more townhouses

686
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
or single-family homes, because I read all of it

687
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,943
so it's a change from what was originally brought to

688
01:00:11,943 --> 01:00:15,000
us, whether you voted for it or you didn't vote for it

689
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,280
so my question becomes, do they start the process all over again? Because

690
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:25,000
this was not what was originally proposed, whether I voted for it or not

691
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,920
I don't think they start from square one, but there will be reviews

692
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,000
by drc for any site plan changes, any site plan submittals, yes.

693
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,454
so I think, tommy, that the city would prefer that you do vote to table it or

694
01:00:36,454 --> 01:00:37,920
whatever this is right now so that it is still

695
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,470
postponed and we at least get to see what the changes. This would be a motion to

696
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:44,700
continue the public hearing september 2nd, 2026.

697
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,620
well, it doesn't appease us because number one, if they're housing

698
01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:06,000
that isn't going to give us any tax money, it's not appeasing us

699
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,340
but that's what my understanding was that at

700
01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:12,000
this point it would serve us better to just

701
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:21,000
let this go for the next couple of months and then see what the next step is.

702
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,000
thank you. That was it for me.

703
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,901
okay, I will second the motion to table. Continue. Continue to december 2nd was

704
01:01:28,901 --> 01:01:35,501
what was recommended. Yeah, september 2nd. September. September 2nd. September 2nd.

705
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,000
please call the roll.

706
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,000
commissioner schwartz? Yes

707
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,000
commissioner simone. Yes. Commissioner rosano? No

708
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,200
vice mayor kojihanna? Yes. Mayor asario? Yes

709
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,000
okay, 7a resolutions

710
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,855
this is a resolution for 2026-158, a resolution of the city of margate, florida,

711
01:01:57,855 --> 01:02:05,655
approving change order number 1 to the agreement with mbr construction for rfq 2025-01

712
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,942
centennial park improvements awarded under resolution number 26-026,

713
01:02:10,942 --> 01:02:18,142
providing for a not to exceed increase of $532,350 per conversion of a

714
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,135
sentinel park basketball court to one tennis, two pickleball,

715
01:02:23,135 --> 01:02:27,000
and one basketball court, providing for an effective date

716
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,200
what is the wish of the commission?

717
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,194
this is the change order to mbr construction for centennial park.

718
01:02:35,194 --> 01:02:36,848
so if you recall a couple meetings ago, the board

719
01:02:36,848 --> 01:02:39,717
authorized an agreement with nbr construction to make improvements at centennial park

720
01:02:39,717 --> 01:02:43,317
a component of those improvements were

721
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,689
replacing the existing basketball court with a multi-purpose tennis court structure

722
01:02:54,689 --> 01:02:54,868
that

723
01:02:54,868 --> 01:02:58,556
could be used as tennis or the nets could be configured so that it could be used as

724
01:02:58,556 --> 01:03:00,556
pickleball

725
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,950
since that approval, we got some resident feedback that they did not want to eliminate

726
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:14,495
the basketball court, and petition this board to have us look into getting pricing

727
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,583
to redesign so that we can have basketball,

728
01:03:18,583 --> 01:03:24,000
pickleball, and tennis at that court. So, this is the

729
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,710
requested a change order, change of design, and cost of construction for completing

730
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:27,984
that project with the three components,

731
01:03:27,984 --> 01:03:30,629
the pickleball courts, tennis court, and basketball. It would be a half court, it

732
01:03:30,629 --> 01:03:34,829
wouldn't be a full court basketball court.

733
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,300
yeah, you're still up. Okay, first off, I think a

734
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:51,000
half a million dollars is absolutely ridiculous.

735
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,527
when this came about, I think there was a resident that came up and went on tiktok

736
01:03:54,527 --> 01:03:54,915
about why

737
01:03:54,915 --> 01:03:58,140
are we taking out basketball courts? I agreed, I don't want to take out the

738
01:03:58,140 --> 01:04:00,000
basketball court. So

739
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,300
when I saw the line items in there for, I don't know if it wasn't specifically about

740
01:04:01,300 --> 01:04:02,569
removing of the basketball court. Why did we remove it? Well, that's the question.

741
01:04:02,569 --> 01:04:03,853
it was, I think, 130, don't quote me on this, about $130,000. Because the residents

742
01:04:03,853 --> 01:04:03,978
asked at

743
01:04:03,978 --> 01:04:05,261
the time that they not, when we first went through this that we not have basketball

744
01:04:05,261 --> 01:04:06,530
courts and lights on and kids playing late in the evening. If you go way back when

745
01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:07,830
this was proposed, it was proposed as a bigger park with a lot more amenities, a lot

746
01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:09,830
more money.

747
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,772
and they didn't want it. So we tapered it back. So when this came out, it was a

748
01:04:31,772 --> 01:04:32,930
design build. Let's remember that

749
01:04:32,930 --> 01:04:35,877
it's a design build. There's nothing in writing. There's no drawing that we're going

750
01:04:35,877 --> 01:04:38,877
by. So there's nothing basically

751
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,570
to build by. It's just what we want and how much it's going to cost and

752
01:04:46,570 --> 01:04:50,000
who's going to build it. So it came back as a design build mbr got it

753
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,971
a couple of residents came up and said that why are we taking out the

754
01:04:53,971 --> 01:04:58,000
basketball courts? Even my kids said, why are we taking it out? I read

755
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,000
from the city that they did a poll in the neighborhood

756
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,878
some residents wanted tennis courts. I don't know who wants

757
01:05:04,878 --> 01:05:08,000
tennis courts. I'd rather have a basketball than a tennis court.

758
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,000
but these are parks that are not specifically for

759
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
residents in that area

760
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,570
as much as people don't want to hear that, I know it is in royal spring

761
01:05:18,570 --> 01:05:22,000
south. However, it's being paid for by all the residents in the city.

762
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,260
okay? So when I look at this, I talk to the city manager after the meeting,

763
01:05:26,260 --> 01:05:30,000
and I say, what kind of credit can we get if we leave the basketball court

764
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,000
because you're not taking it out. So we're saving $130,000

765
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,991
so ask the general contractor what kind of a credit we're going to get to come back

766
01:05:36,991 --> 01:05:38,000
with an increase of $530,000

767
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,270
just blew me away. Supposedly, from what I'm hearing is because it's redesigning the

768
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:43,427
property for the stormwater

769
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:51,833
am I correct on that?

770
01:05:51,833 --> 01:05:54,921
it's not just that, but we can't leave the basketball court the way it is. Why

771
01:05:54,921 --> 01:05:58,287
not? 20 plus years old, it is full of cracks. And if we are investing in putting in a

772
01:05:58,287 --> 01:06:00,687
new park out there

773
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,000
we would have a new basketball court

774
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,136
and the way we were doing this before is we were taking out the surface of the

775
01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:14,941
basketball court and

776
01:06:14,941 --> 01:06:18,317
using that area, that sub base for the installation of a tennis court. And so now if

777
01:06:18,317 --> 01:06:20,717
we are looking at

778
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,880
adding additional square footage out there, additional blacktop, additional earth

779
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:30,877
removal, additional sub-base

780
01:06:30,877 --> 01:06:33,933
putting in. And yes, there is a counting that goes into that for stormwater retention,

781
01:06:33,933 --> 01:06:36,333
water displacement, or whatnot

782
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:49,000
this is the price that the contractors come back to us for that.

783
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,379
okay, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't

784
01:06:52,379 --> 01:06:56,000
mind seeing a 20 by 20 concrete slab with a basketball hoop.

785
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,352
so I don't know for a half a million dollars what kind of basketball

786
01:06:59,352 --> 01:07:03,000
court we're getting. And I understand it's a lot of it's going towards the

787
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,000
the stormwater

788
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,500
so my question is, because I've been in that neighborhood, it floods

789
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,000
out all the time. Is the stormwater connected to the lake out there?

790
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,100
just curious.

791
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,000
I don't know

792
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,476
because I think more of an issue of improving the park would probably be fixing the

793
01:07:18,476 --> 01:07:18,980
storm order.

794
01:07:18,980 --> 01:07:22,246
in case you're familiar with that area, there's a lake probably about a couple

795
01:07:22,246 --> 01:07:24,000
hundred yards away

796
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,611
I don't know what it's used for. If it's not used for stormwater,

797
01:07:27,611 --> 01:07:31,000
for retaining water or overflow of the water on that property

798
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,500
and why are we going to increase it? Why are we going to put all

799
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:36,000
this money to a park that's still going to have a flooding issue

800
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,000
so I don't think

801
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,000
this proposal for $530,000 is actually

802
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:47,000
I don't know, substantial. I think it's crazy, to be honest with you

803
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:52,000
but more in all, I've heard that it's the stormwater is going to be the problem

804
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,628
or the cost, so it just made me think that maybe the stormwater system in that area

805
01:07:55,628 --> 01:07:56,670
is flawed.

806
01:07:56,670 --> 01:07:59,563
maybe we should say it's the stormwater system or that it's a flooding issue out

807
01:07:59,563 --> 01:08:01,563
there, but

808
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,400
you have the basketball court, and then you have, you know, it's all grass field, and

809
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:09,841
so it's all

810
01:08:09,841 --> 01:08:13,240
impervious, and right? And so now we're looking at adding more asphalt into that area

811
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,240
and displacing that

812
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,411
grass. And so we have to account for that impervious area now, and so the stormwater

813
01:08:22,411 --> 01:08:23,103
retention becomes

814
01:08:23,103 --> 01:08:25,416
on the site, not necessarily tying into stormwater lines.

815
01:08:25,416 --> 01:08:30,216
it's not a flooding issue in that area.

816
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,189
I don't disagree with you.

817
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:35,977
it's saddening to see the cost of these construction projects

818
01:08:35,977 --> 01:08:37,669
and how much everything is coming in.

819
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:43,669
we've gone back and forth on this project for years

820
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,746
and, you know, the original design was a very grand type of

821
01:08:50,746 --> 01:08:55,000
project, and the community came out and said they didn't want that.

822
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,955
so we went back to the drawing board, and we spoke to the community

823
01:08:57,955 --> 01:09:01,000
out there, and they told us that they wanted, you know, tennis courts

824
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,600
and they wanted a very minimal

825
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,656
you know, improvements to that park. And I certainly understand what you're saying,

826
01:09:08,656 --> 01:09:09,968
that this is… this is not their exclusive

827
01:09:09,968 --> 01:09:12,656
neighborhood park. This is a, you know, a citywide that it's anybody that lives here

828
01:09:12,656 --> 01:09:18,656
in the city is paying for and can use that

829
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,740
and we heard from residents in that area and outside of

830
01:09:24,740 --> 01:09:29,000
that area saying that they wanted basketball as well.

831
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:38,000
and so we are we're trying to, you know, appease, you know, the desires of

832
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,800
many different users of that park out there

833
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,341
and we have a price from our contractor to do that. And we can, you know, agree, you

834
01:09:45,341 --> 01:09:47,420
know or disagree with that pricing. But that's what it's come

835
01:09:47,420 --> 01:09:49,411
at come back at. That neighborhood definitely has a history of being divided. Is that

836
01:09:49,411 --> 01:09:54,811
the same neighborhood with the speed bumps? Correct, yes.

837
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,000
they wanted speed bumps. They went through the process. The hoa voted on it, yes

838
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,480
and then a whole half a residence that all of a sudden found out now don't want speed

839
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:16,000
bumps, and they're bombarding the city. So it's kind of a history with that nature.

840
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,000
to ask for things and then not want them

841
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,896
I understand that. I remember the night that it came up with the basketball

842
01:10:22,896 --> 01:10:30,000
and I was in favor of keeping the basketball court and I don't even mind paying

843
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
some money to

844
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,000
create a new court or whatever additions that are necessary but

845
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,000
for $500,000, and you being a contractor, and saying that is outrageous.

846
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
take your expertise on that

847
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
it's probably a little too excessive.

848
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,918
well, I'm just saying, if we were going to offer the amenity, I'd rather

849
01:10:50,918 --> 01:10:55,000
have basketball over tennis, but to come back with a half a million dollars

850
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,408
I would just like to see a 20 by 20 concrete slab with a

851
01:10:58,408 --> 01:11:02,000
basketball hoop so the kids can continue playing basketball

852
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,259
not to mention, they do make asphalt now out of

853
01:11:04,259 --> 01:11:07,000
basketball. Of course, they use asphalt, that is pervious

854
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:12,000
so there'd be no drainage issue, no problem with the stormwater

855
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,000
but when I see this

856
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,854
drives me nuts. And just for those that don't know, once you take on a job as a

857
01:11:17,854 --> 01:11:24,000
contractor, anything you want on that property, it has to go through that contractor.

858
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,558
so, in other words, if we're doing this park

859
01:11:26,558 --> 01:11:29,000
and we say, hey, we want to add a flagpole

860
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,977
the contractor doing the job has to do the flagpole, and you have to basically use his

861
01:11:32,977 --> 01:11:36,769
price or wait till he closes out the permit, and then you got to go pay to have it

862
01:11:36,769 --> 01:11:38,769
done.

863
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,660
so it's one of these catch-22s where honestly,

864
01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:46,000
you know, I didn't think tennis was that big

865
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,000
I've only read one letter of somebody that wanted tennis

866
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,443
but I hate to give up the basketball court,

867
01:11:52,443 --> 01:11:55,000
but to see this price, half a million dollars

868
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,153
because the neighborhood… and you have a good point. It's a city park. The

869
01:11:57,153 --> 01:11:58,927
neighborhood treats it like their own exclusive club and they

870
01:11:58,927 --> 01:12:01,371
didn't want people all these cars and coming in, but yet they want pickleball that's

871
01:12:01,371 --> 01:12:08,571
going to be being in a ball back and forth, making noise

872
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,000
kind of just doesn't make sense

873
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,000
no, it doesn't. Well, it's going to be one that I would rather see basketball than

874
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,770
and I know pickleball is probably more popular right now, but based on the history of

875
01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:22,190
that neighborhood and them

876
01:12:22,190 --> 01:12:24,986
not wanting all of this attention and noise, it kind of baffles me that they would

877
01:12:24,986 --> 01:12:27,386
want pickleball just doesn't

878
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,876
and that's where I agree with you. You know, I believe that this park is being

879
01:12:36,876 --> 01:12:43,000
funded by every taxpayer. So everybody in the city of margate can go there. But yet

880
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,000
some people in there want tennis courts, and we're putting tennis courts in

881
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,000
that's the way I feel about it. Pickleball is way more popular

882
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,568
joanne, I congratulate you for bringing up pickleball when you first got here.

883
01:12:52,568 --> 01:12:54,490
I didn't think it was going to be so popular.

884
01:12:54,490 --> 01:12:56,617
it's huge, but to have pickleball there, you're going to have more people than

885
01:12:56,617 --> 01:13:00,817
playing basketball. And if they don't want

886
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,000
basketball just doesn't make sense

887
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:11,600
just the way I feel about it. That's all. Thank you.

888
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,000
is there a motion? How about my number.

889
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,840
go ahead, sorry, commissioner schwartz. We built

890
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:23,640
the dog park for $499,999. Just thought I'd reminded

891
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,418
I will tell you my conversation with the city manager. This is a city park, and I

892
01:13:27,418 --> 01:13:29,000
said to him, I'd like a sign out there so that people

893
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,418
actually know where it is, because it is treated as a community park. They didn't

894
01:13:31,418 --> 01:13:36,818
walk on the walkways, they didn't want the bathrooms.

895
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:46,000
they didn't want originally the basketball because they didn't want to have the lights

896
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,368
we have redone this two or three times, and each time the price goes up.

897
01:13:49,368 --> 01:13:50,710
so I agree with

898
01:13:50,710 --> 01:13:57,000
you, if 20 by 20 does it, and we have to close out the permit and then bring it back

899
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,963
with somebody else doing it at a normal price, but for

900
01:14:00,963 --> 01:14:06,000
a basketball court to cost as much as the dog parks did

901
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,000
it's ridiculous

902
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,495
and to be honest, if there was a petition, I never saw it for this, for basketball.

903
01:14:12,495 --> 01:14:12,959
I heard the

904
01:14:12,959 --> 01:14:16,284
person who came up and asked for it. But again, those people would like this to

905
01:14:16,284 --> 01:14:18,284
remain their park

906
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,529
it's a city park funded by city dollars. I want a city sign

907
01:14:24,529 --> 01:14:28,000
out there that says centennial park, so people can find it

908
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,943
because that doesn't exist right now. To add to your

909
01:14:30,943 --> 01:14:34,000
comment, I made the suggestion a long time ago because

910
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,421
the first term I was here, I didn't even know… I didn't even know

911
01:14:37,421 --> 01:14:41,000
it existed. And I live at that intersection. I'm there all the time.

912
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,784
lower the hedge. Right. Hedge… you've got the neighborhood fence, and then that

913
01:14:43,784 --> 01:14:45,180
podocarpus hedge. It's so tall, and

914
01:14:45,180 --> 01:14:47,167
unless you know the park is back in there, you do not see it.

915
01:14:47,167 --> 01:14:53,767
in 40 years, I've never had a reason to go in there.

916
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,973
but now it's a city park funded, and it's a city park. People should know

917
01:14:58,973 --> 01:15:04,000
it existed. But if, indeed we don't have to spend a half a million dollars

918
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,000
to put in a basketball court

919
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,571
and maybe we ought to find another way to do that, even if it means that mbr, who

920
01:15:09,571 --> 01:15:11,000
happens to do all of our parks and all of our

921
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,571
stuff, doesn't get to do that and that we do it after market when that's finished

922
01:15:13,571 --> 01:15:18,371
with a different way, with a different vendor

923
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:28,000
so city manager, if do we already have a contract

924
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,469
executed, I guess what I'm getting at is if this doesn't

925
01:15:31,469 --> 01:15:35,000
pass or it seems like it's not even going to get a motion

926
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,700
what happens with the project? Doesn't pass, and it doesn't get a motion. We will

927
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:39,000
move forward with the contract that you

928
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,800
have approved, which is for an upgrade to the playground. It would be replacing the,

929
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,400
basketball court with a tennis court

930
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:59,000
now, if this board wants us to not do that and keep the basketball court there, we can

931
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,176
that is probably a much easier thing to do. I don't know if there's going to be a

932
01:16:02,176 --> 01:16:02,962
cost change of that,

933
01:16:02,962 --> 01:16:06,255
just changing out, you know, the basketball hoops and whatnot, that all needs to be,

934
01:16:06,255 --> 01:16:08,255
you know, upgraded.

935
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,380
but I think that would be substantially less. I would

936
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:21,000
rather do that, and if the people really want tennis

937
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,400
there are other city parks. Or they could justify $500,000

938
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,000
I like the suggestion of just leaving the basketball court

939
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,226
and not doing anything to prepare it? No. Yes, resurface

940
01:16:38,226 --> 01:16:43,000
it, repaint it, the nets, the hoops, whatever, but

941
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400
to dig out the

942
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,340
we wouldn't be adding any more asphalt out there. We would be using the existing area,

943
01:16:49,340 --> 01:16:50,100
we'd be replacing

944
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:53,680
the existing asphalt out there. What that use would be, whether it's tennis and

945
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,680
pickleball or basketball

946
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:06,800
you know, I think that should be very interchangeable within this contract, not

947
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,250
a substantial cost, if any, but I don't know that without going back and speaking

948
01:17:09,250 --> 01:17:11,500
with the contractor. And if it's such a big deal, then instead of two pickleball,

949
01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:12,925
do one tennis and one raise the net. I mean, that's substantially the whole

950
01:17:12,925 --> 01:17:21,925
difference there. Right. And so, you know that's that's what we were doing with the

951
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,510
the initial project was to put in a tennis court size piece of asphalt where the

952
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:28,922
existing basketball court was and then on one

953
01:17:28,922 --> 01:17:31,525
tennis court, you can get two pickleball courts going, you know sideways. And so we

954
01:17:31,525 --> 01:17:38,125
were going to put the nets in this. It was just

955
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,000
using that same existing space

956
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,256
this change expands that footprint, so you have basketball and the tennis and

957
01:17:46,256 --> 01:17:48,440
pickleball courts. Do you have any parks besides firefighters

958
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,535
park that has that much going on in it? Coral gate park has basketball, it has tennis

959
01:17:50,535 --> 01:17:55,935
and it has pickleball, and it has playground, yeah

960
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,000
bigger areas

961
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,789
so if this doesn't pass, I would certainly like direction from the board

962
01:18:09,789 --> 01:18:18,789
tonight if you want us to revisit taking out the basketball court and leaving in

963
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,721
refurbished. Refurbishing the basketball court and leaving the basketball court and

964
01:18:21,721 --> 01:18:23,660
getting going away from putting in tennis

965
01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:25,754
courts, eliminating the basketball court. So let me do this. The first half of the

966
01:18:25,754 --> 01:18:30,554
puzzle is, is there a motion for this?

967
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,600
seeing no motion, so this fails.

968
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,510
right, so now I think the city manager, as he just said, is looking for direction.

969
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:43,200
it's as far as do you want

970
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,330
to remove the basketball court and move forward with the original agreement or to

971
01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:49,330
keep it a basketball court

972
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,400
so any comment on

973
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,000
keeping at a basketball court.

974
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,600
commissioner schwartz, you're first. No, I'm

975
01:19:02,955 --> 01:19:06,555
sorry. I'll cancel that. Commissioner rosano.

976
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:13,000
I mean, like it's been said, we've been going back and forth with this for a long time

977
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,887
I would just like to see the pickleball courts, the tennis court, and

978
01:19:16,887 --> 01:19:22,000
the basketball area. Doesn't have to be a full-blown-out basketball court

979
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:28,000
and my next question is, is there contingency money in this project?

980
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,000
always.

981
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,783
yeah, I believe there is. I don't have what that is. No, it's always 20. There's

982
01:19:32,783 --> 01:19:34,350
always a… it's never 10. It's always

983
01:19:34,350 --> 01:19:36,574
20. It's a lot. It's always 20, and it's amazing how it always hits that.

984
01:19:36,574 --> 01:19:41,374
it's more than that. It's more than that.

985
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,181
so, is it possible we can ask him what a

986
01:19:45,181 --> 01:19:49,000
concrete slab would be for a future purpose use?

987
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:53,000
just to make everybody happy with the basketball, the tennis

988
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,000
and just come back and put a hoop there, or whatever? I mean

989
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,000
I have a feeling if we cancel the tennis

990
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,000
those two or three residents are going to ask why we did that.

991
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,400
I don't think converting

992
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,400
tennis courts to pickleball courts make sense, though.

993
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,890
I'd rather have just strict pickleball

994
01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:12,401
courts.

995
01:20:12,401 --> 01:20:19,000
it's just a matter of the height of the no no no it's got to be restripped and oh

996
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
yes, it is

997
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,104
it's not ideal to have pickleball courts on a tennis court. It has different striping,

998
01:20:23,104 --> 01:20:24,988
you know, it would really just be for, you know, people practicing out there.

999
01:20:24,988 --> 01:20:26,920
you wouldn't be able to host a, you know, a legitimate game or tournament style

1000
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:35,920
thing. So it's kind of like two-folded here, because if they don't want people there.

1001
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,249
go with the tennis courts. You know what I'm saying? If you want people to enjoy

1002
01:20:42,249 --> 01:20:42,981
their parks, since

1003
01:20:42,981 --> 01:20:46,391
they're paying for them, put the pickleball courts, put the basketball, and possibly

1004
01:20:46,391 --> 01:20:48,391
a tennis court.

1005
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,880
but if you go by firefighters park, I don't think the tennis

1006
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,000
courts are being used that much. The pickleball courts are packed

1007
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:02,000
so common sense would say go with the one that's more popular. But

1008
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,840
that's not what the residents want. They want something that

1009
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,000
isn't going to draw people in. And we've seen that because of the

1010
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,000
proposal we had, it was beautiful, but that's not what they wanted

1011
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,000
so I'm going to leave it up to you guys, and I'll just

1012
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,000
go with you guys on this one

1013
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000
it started it

1014
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000
vice mayor.

1015
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,973
I got a text a little while back saying that on the basketball court with

1016
01:21:32,973 --> 01:21:40,000
the issues that's there, that you can put an epoxy down on the old asphalt

1017
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,000
and make it level

1018
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:46,000
and make it look like a brand new surface for only a little bit of money

1019
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,829
I'm not sure. I don't know the product, but I'll find out the product, but I'm told

1020
01:21:47,829 --> 01:21:49,636
that there's an epoxy that you can use that would… that would, make it look almost

1021
01:21:49,636 --> 01:21:49,968
brand new again

1022
01:21:49,968 --> 01:21:51,796
for a little bit of money. So you can, right, you can resurface, repaint, you know,

1023
01:21:51,796 --> 01:21:53,669
there's stuff out there for it, but we've got, you know, lifting of asphalt, and, you

1024
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:55,669
know, you can't

1025
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,973
so the asphalt itself is… it is falling apart as 25, 30 years old. It is…

1026
01:22:10,973 --> 01:22:17,573
it's due for replacement. Regardless of whether it's tennis or basketball.

1027
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,406
we're putting money into, you know, we're improving our park. And we've heard for a

1028
01:22:23,406 --> 01:22:25,290
number of years that we don't want to, you know shortcut

1029
01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:27,348
things. We want a park to be done nice and new, and if we're investing, you know

1030
01:22:27,348 --> 01:22:33,948
parks bond dollars in there, it doesn't mean we, you know

1031
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,111
we're frivolous, but, you know. But cal, this half a million dollars would come from

1032
01:22:40,111 --> 01:22:40,964
the general fund. Would

1033
01:22:40,964 --> 01:22:44,000
come from a combination of rec trust funds and general fund? Not the bond anymore.

1034
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,600
we would be over that money

1035
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,253
we're finished with that. Correct.

1036
01:22:53,253 --> 01:22:56,180
so I'm not interested in spending money out of those two pots. The original

1037
01:22:56,180 --> 01:22:59,152
project, the original agreement was for 2.3 million. Correct. We have $1.3 million of

1038
01:22:59,152 --> 01:23:01,552
parks bond dollars left

1039
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,439
correct. In that agenda item, we got authorization to use

1040
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,000
up to a million dollars of park and rec trust funds, right?

1041
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,000
if you approve this change order

1042
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:24,000
you can authorize the park and rec trust funds for it, which would

1043
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,000
ultimately deplete those park and rec trust funds or general fund

1044
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,200
right. Neither, to me, are good options

1045
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,400
I'm done. Commissioner simone

1046
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,320
so because this is such a controversy and going

1047
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,000
back and forth, back and forth, back and forth

1048
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,000
I think we should have a workshop on it

1049
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,000
and get the residents to

1050
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,000
come out and voice their opinion and let us know one way or another

1051
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,560
what they would like and be done with this. And how much it costs and let

1052
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:13,000
them know how much it costs. Yeah. So I think this calls for a workshop

1053
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,000
I would agree with that

1054
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,103
because how many times, this is the third change. Correct. And every time we change

1055
01:24:18,103 --> 01:24:18,889
the price goes up for

1056
01:24:18,889 --> 01:24:21,953
less. And it will continue to do that. And I don't want to pressure the board into

1057
01:24:21,953 --> 01:24:25,553
doing one thing or the other

1058
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,688
but we are way past due on using these bond funds, to have a workshop. I think we've

1059
01:24:34,688 --> 01:24:35,968
heard… we've got a community survey that

1060
01:24:35,968 --> 01:24:36,673
showed what we wanted.

1061
01:24:36,673 --> 01:24:39,720
we've heard from social media about, you know, other things that they want.

1062
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,720
we've gotten emails about it.

1063
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,100
I

1064
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:55,100
again, I don't want to pressure the board. If you want to have a workshop, we

1065
01:24:55,100 --> 01:25:00,000
certainly can. But I think we have enough information. We don't like the cost

1066
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,144
and that's the difficult part of this. I don't think you can, you know, in the

1067
01:25:02,144 --> 01:25:03,904
community, find out whether or not they approve of spending that

1068
01:25:03,904 --> 01:25:06,241
additional dollar. I think the basketball folks are going to say they want basketball

1069
01:25:06,241 --> 01:25:14,410
and spend the money, and I don't think either side will back off

1070
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,000
on saying what they want

1071
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,546
you know, the one thing that we could do is we can leave the original design in there,

1072
01:25:23,546 --> 01:25:24,100
finish that

1073
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:27,340
project and come back in the future and look at putting in a pad for a basketball

1074
01:25:27,340 --> 01:25:29,740
court on our own

1075
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,000
maybe it's not a bad idea.

1076
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,192
see how the community reacts to this project being completed? It won't be done with a

1077
01:25:39,192 --> 01:25:39,945
basketball court. We

1078
01:25:39,945 --> 01:25:43,230
can say we, you know, we're deferring that to future years. Let's see how property

1079
01:25:43,230 --> 01:25:46,230
taxes, you know, roll out.

1080
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,500
evaluate, you know, feedback that we get from residents, asking

1081
01:25:54,500 --> 01:25:58,000
where the basketball court went. It's not ideal to do that, but

1082
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,271
it's somewhat reactionary, but in my opinion, I think we've heard from the

1083
01:26:01,271 --> 01:26:01,979
neighborhood out

1084
01:26:01,979 --> 01:26:05,470
there, it's not a overwhelming majority of people that decided on this, but the

1085
01:26:05,470 --> 01:26:07,470
majority did

1086
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,226
so we can continue to try to get more and more feedback,

1087
01:26:19,226 --> 01:26:25,226
but I think we'll find ourselves in the same boat.

1088
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:33,000
I mean, at the end of the day — my suggestion, my recommendation at this point is

1089
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:39,000
to not move forward with this change order. Let's complete the project

1090
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:45,000
and we can evaluate expanding it in the future and adding in a basketball court

1091
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,600
or pickleball courts as trends change.

1092
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,000
cal, I'll go with that.

1093
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,000
commissioner rosano?

1094
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,889
do that, I don't mind doing that, but I would like to

1095
01:26:58,889 --> 01:27:03,000
see that contingency money moved out for a concrete slab

1096
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,400
I know it's over $100,000

1097
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,000
so rather than see it get used up on

1098
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,000
revelist stuff

1099
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:17,000
maybe put a tag on it and cut the contingency down to 5%.

1100
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,000
it's still going to be over $100,000

1101
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,000
I think it's 160,000, I think

1102
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,000
no, no, no, the contingency. Okay.

1103
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:31,000
and every job we do, the contractors eat up the contingency.

1104
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,000
always. So at least we could say, hey, listen

1105
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:40,600
we're going to add a line item of $50,000 for the slab

1106
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,375
reducing the contingency, but at least we're going to be able to have a future by

1107
01:27:44,375 --> 01:27:45,430
taking it out of

1108
01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:48,458
contingency or line item it line item it instead of contingency being so high line

1109
01:27:48,458 --> 01:27:50,458
item it, then

1110
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,600
he has to do it. Well, then they would have to do it. Correct.

1111
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,716
do we want them having to do it when they're making a prices like you're thinking,

1112
01:28:00,716 --> 01:28:01,100
out of thin

1113
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:03,116
air? Well, he needs to go back and look at the real numbers. I mean, if you need a

1114
01:28:03,116 --> 01:28:10,316
contractor to give a concrete number… I'm listening to what you're saying

1115
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,404
and if what you're saying is correct, that they'll find a way to spend whatever

1116
01:28:14,404 --> 01:28:15,916
money's available, then we should remove that money, not give them the opportunity to

1117
01:28:15,916 --> 01:28:17,180
spend it. Then later on, go to somebody else, say, this is the

1118
01:28:17,180 --> 01:28:18,511
money we have. Correct. And that's what we want to spend. And listen, the reason why

1119
01:28:18,511 --> 01:28:20,400
I'm saying that… 100%. The reason why I'm saying that, because supposedly, what I've

1120
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:26,400
been heard is the contingency money is for future lights

1121
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:40,780
so if these people don't want lights. If they don't want people there, they're

1122
01:28:40,780 --> 01:28:45,000
not going to want lights. They told us they don't want lights. So take that

1123
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,000
whatever it is, thousand, I wish we knew the number. I'm

1124
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:53,000
looking it up. And use that towards the possibility of a

1125
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,716
basketball area. Doesn't have to be a full-blown-out court.

1126
01:28:54,716 --> 01:28:56,927
no, it could be a half court. Exactly. Just, just something. I disagree with

1127
01:28:56,927 --> 01:28:59,255
you. I just think that we should not only pull the money out, we should pull the

1128
01:28:59,255 --> 01:29:05,000
money out and not leave it anywhere where it can be touched.

1129
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:09,000
but I think we've already approved the contract, if I'm not mistaken.

1130
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,900
yes, you've approved the base contract. So the base contract, it has a lump sum in it

1131
01:29:12,900 --> 01:29:13,100
with a contingency, which we

1132
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,867
know is going to get eaten up. So why not draw some of that money back out, put a

1133
01:29:15,867 --> 01:29:19,467
line item as the basketball area

1134
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,000
and go from there. I don't care how you do it, cal.

1135
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,700
if you can get it done, get it done. I mean, I don't disagree with you. Obviously, you

1136
01:29:34,700 --> 01:29:38,000
know I'm on the same page with you. I just want him to have an opportunity to do it

1137
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,211
however, he thinks he can do it and get away with it within the contract parameters,

1138
01:29:40,211 --> 01:29:42,000
that works for me. I honestly think it's doable with the contingency

1139
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,184
money there. Okay. And if we're not going to do capture lights there… you're right.

1140
01:29:44,184 --> 01:29:52,584
well, how about the reminder that mbr has been doing all of our stuff

1141
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,621
and that they owe us a little bit for that.

1142
01:29:58,621 --> 01:30:03,000
sometimes goodwill should work. I've done every park

1143
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,134
they've done every… I don't even think anybody bids against them. What you're

1144
01:30:07,134 --> 01:30:11,000
saying is they should work with us. They should work with us. I got you.

1145
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,000
don't get complacent

1146
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,100
that's right

1147
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:18,313
because I think getting a check mark and an excellent

1148
01:30:18,313 --> 01:30:22,000
rating from us might help them when they go to other cities

1149
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,394
all right, so there's no motion, there's no second. So this change order fails. What

1150
01:30:25,394 --> 01:30:26,100
I'm hearing for

1151
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:29,313
direction is to move forward with the existing design as it is with the tennis and

1152
01:30:29,313 --> 01:30:31,313
pickleball courts

1153
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,765
and using when I identify what the contingency is or allowances,

1154
01:30:39,765 --> 01:30:47,000
finding a way to put in a… some sort of a pad for basketball. And I will

1155
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,330
see what we can do there. I will report back.

1156
01:30:50,330 --> 01:30:53,000
good. Thank you. And then I think… last item

1157
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,400
discussion and possible action

1158
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:03,000
it's been withdrawn. It's formally be withdrawn from the agenda.

1159
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,944
okay, so it's we're done. Yeah, but just so that the public knows if it

1160
01:31:06,944 --> 01:31:12,000
wasn't it was mentioned during public comment, but since the item is here

1161
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,818
the reason why we're not discussing it is there's no need for litigation because the

1162
01:31:15,818 --> 01:31:16,920
person

1163
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:24,000
in question paid in full plus interest. So that defeats the purpose of us having today

1164
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,511
that's right, but… today. But the item was, if we're gonna sue them

1165
01:31:25,511 --> 01:31:27,000
or not, we don't need to… no, no, but I'm just saying, today. Yeah

1166
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,000
meeting is adjour