We'd like to welcome you to the formal board meeting of Maricopa County Board of Supervisors for April 8th,
2026. Thank you, everyone, who is here. Madam Clerk, would you please call the roll?
Yes, good morning. Thank you. Supervisor Gallaudible.
Here. Vice chair Lesco. Here.
Supervisor Galvin, who's joining us remotely.
Supervisor Stewart. Here. Chair Brophy McGee.
Here. Thank you. We have all board members and attendance in person or virtually.
Our next item is invocation and pledge of allegiance.
Supervisor Stewart, would you please introduce your guest, who will lead us in the invocation and pledge?
Thank you, Madam Chair. It's my esteemed privilege to invite President Warren Peterson,
Senate President of our great state of Arizona to lead us in the invocation and pledge.
Madam Chair, I'd like to make some remarks about the President after the pledge.
Yes, sir. Thank you. President Peterson, welcome.
Good morning. Please join me in prayer.
Our dear kind of gracious Heavenly Father, we're group for this beautiful day for many blessings.
We're grateful for this Board of Supervisors and their service to the county.
We pray without bless them with wisdom, bless them with patience, bless them with unity and the ability to work together with decorum,
bless them that they, when they disagree, that they can agree to disagree.
Please bless them that they will put the interests of the citizens first, always and above all to protect individual rights and liberties.
We pray for this county. We pray for our state. We pray that we can find solutions to the water issues that we're facing at this time.
We pray for prosperity and we pray for peace.
And we pray for strength for these leaders and all the leaders of the state and the communities.
And we say these things the name of the ison Jesus Christ, amen.
Amen.
Please join me in the pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands.
One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and peace.
Thank you, Mr. Stewart.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
President Peterson has served the Arizona legislature since 2012.
First elected to the House of Representatives before joining the state Senate.
He currently represents legislative district 14, which includes Gilbert and parts of Queen Creek.
President Peterson is now in his fourth year of serving as president of the Arizona Senate.
Through his legislative career, President Peterson has been leading advocate for limited government.
Physical responsibility reduced regulations and policy and set strengthen Arizona's economy while providing individual liberty.
As Senate president, he has focused on defending state laws, ensuring fairness and accountability in government, safeguarding public safety and preserving Arizona's constitutional freedoms.
His leadership roles have included House Majority Leader, Senate Commerce, Committee Chair, Senate Judiciary, Committee Chair, Senate Rules Chair and Service on the Senate Ethics Committee.
He has been widely recognized for his works on tax policy regulatory reform, small business advocacy and protecting fundamental rights.
As a third-generation Gilbert resident, President Peterson is a graduate of Gilbert High School.
Here in his bachelor's degree from ASU and his chair of Stockford degree from ASU in law.
He's worked in real estate industry for more than two decades primarily in new home construction and family owns a real estate brokerage.
I want to humbly thank President Warren Peterson for his tireless commitment to the citizens of our state passing commonsense legislation
that defends our constitution, freedoms, and for being a servant leader who places others first.
I wish the greatest success to you and to our state and please join me in giving the President a round of applause for his 14 years of exceptional leadership.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, supervisor Stewart, and President Peterson, our mutual friend, Rust Jones used to call it the silly season,
and you're in the midst of a good luck and wishing you the best in terms of outcomes for the state of Arizona.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, so moving us on to the next agenda item, it is the pet showcase.
And we have a real cutie here.
Well, you too, but I was talking about the dark.
Oh, what a sweetie.
All right, well, this is Oscar and yes, he is a cutie.
He is, if you can't believe it, he is 10 years old, so he is a senior, although he looks like a permanent puppy.
He arrived at the shelter about a week ago with his two friends who are also senior dogs as well, but about the same size as him.
And again, you never guessed that he is 10.
He is very energetic.
He walks with a purpose.
We always sing a little song when he's walking, because his ears are bouncing around.
If anyone knows it, anybody going to break mustard.
That's what we've been singing as we walk him around the shelter.
And he is full of excitement.
He is so excited to meet new people and jump around.
And as long as you have a treat, he will give you every bit of attention that you have.
He already knows sit and shake and down.
And I'm sure he has a couple other ones in there as well.
And he also appears to be party trains.
So that's a good thing.
At 10 years old, that puppy nonsense is all out of the way.
He is a well-trained senior pup.
He does have some lumps and bumps.
And like I said, he has endless energy.
But he does have some lumps and bumps as most senior dogs do.
So whoever adopts him, we highly recommend bringing them to his veterinarian.
Getting it worked up and making sure that that his bad breath gets taken care of.
And he's ready to go and live out his golden ears.
So he's a great little companion.
And he is looking to spend somewhere where his golden ears can shine.
And again, him being a senior, he is only $25.
And he's already new to that.
So that means he can go home today.
Thank you so much, Kim.
And good luck.
You are representing the senior generation quite ably Oscar.
You got this.
Thank you so much to animal care and control.
I would like to exercise my discretion as chair.
To move items 64 transfer of ownership of retiring equine, a pop-up to the front of the agenda.
This item requires a unanimous roll call vote.
Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers?
Madam Chair, none for item 64.
Well, thank you.
The board will now consider items 64.
Madam Vice Chair.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I move that we approve item number 64.
Thank you, is there a second?
Second.
Madam Clerk, hearing no discussion.
Madam Clerk, please call the roll.
Thank you.
Supervisor Gallauder.
Aye.
Vice Chair, let's go.
Aye.
Supervisor Galvin.
Aye.
Supervisor Stewart.
Aye.
Chair Brofimi Ghee.
Aye.
The motion carries unanimously.
Thank you very much.
We will now go to our regular agenda or our agenda starting with item five.
Before we launch into item five, we have some speakers signed up today.
So I'm going to remind people of the rules of decorum.
It is the intent of the members of the Board of Supervisors to follow orderly procedures so that we can conduct our
business.
The Chairman of the Board of Supervisors has the authority to maintain order and professional standards during the open meetings and may enforce the following rules.
And those disregarding the rules will be subject to removal.
Attendees shall remain seated during an open meeting to minimize distractions to the Board or other attendees unless they are called forward to address the Board.
Or if they are leaving the meeting room.
No person.
Attending an open meeting shall engage in disorderly or boisterous conduct.
Including but not limited to applause, whistling, stamping of feet, bullying, or making any loud threatening,
profane, abusive personal and pertinent or slanderous utterance that disturbs disrupts for otherwise impedes the orderly conduct of the meeting.
Signs, placards, vanners or other similar items will not be permitted in the audience.
And I very much appreciate people's attention to these rules that will ensure the orderly conduct and most robust public participation in our meetings.
If I may make a quick announcement, please.
I was getting there.
Thank you so much.
I'm sorry about that.
No, my apologies.
I always skip that part.
I just wanted to make everyone aware that the applicant for item number eight, which is under the planning and zoning hearings regular agenda for the more land, back yard rentals.
There is a request to withdraw this item.
Number eight.
And thank you, Madam Clerk.
My apologies.
That was the request of the applicant, correct?
Yes.
So item number eight will not be considered on today's agenda at the request of the applicant.
Okay.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, Madam Chair.
Madam Chair.
I do not believe there is any further motion.
I would defer to Brooke.
Madam Chair members of the board.
I don't believe so.
You can always make a motion to make it official.
But you don't.
It's not.
It's your decision.
As an abundance of caution.
You know what?
Madam Chair, my apologies.
I let me rephrase that because it is a statutory hearing and is listed on the agenda.
Thank you.
It probably is.
Best practice.
So Mr. Gayardo, would you make a motion, please?
Would you move?
To table or.
Okay.
With draw.
All right.
Okay.
Madam Chair.
I appreciate it.
I make a motion that we withdraw item number eight from today's agenda.
Thank you.
Supervisors.
Second.
Okay.
It's been moved and seconded.
All those in favor of the motion.
We'll say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed?
Hearing none opposed?
Now we go back to consent agenda for planning and zoning.
Hearing.
Supervisors.
Do you wish to remove any item from the consent?
Madam Chair.
I'd like to remove item number seven from the consent agenda because we have speakers.
Okay.
Item number five and number six.
Six.
Remain on the consent agenda.
We will now consider item.
Madam Chair.
Mr. Stewart.
Thank you.
I'd like to remove item number 29.
The MOU.
That's down the road.
Is it.
After the.
Yes.
We're just ending for five six and seven.
Planning and zoning.
Yes sir.
Thank you.
So I'll come back to you.
But don't let me forget.
Thank you.
The board will now consider items five.
Magic South and item six three thirty south 75th Avenue clean harbours industrial.
For action.
Is there motion?
Madam Chair.
I move that we approve item number five and six.
Thank you.
Is there a second?
You had speakers.
You are out of order.
Let me explain.
This is consent agenda.
Unless the board member removes an item from the consent agenda.
It is not subject.
Is there a second?
Second.
Any further discussion?
We will proceed to a vote.
Item number five and six on the planning and zoning consent agenda.
All those in favor.
We'll say aye.
Aye.
Those opposed.
Motion passes unanimously.
We'll now proceed to item number seven.
House of Yampo Ranch.
Vice chair.
Let's go.
Yes.
Thank you.
Madam Chair.
It's my understanding that the applicant is here.
And I would like to hear from the applicant for however many minutes you desire the applicant to speak.
And then possibly after that I'd like to hear from the staff.
Thank you very much.
If the applicant would come forward.
Four minutes.
Yes.
Okay.
Four minutes.
And please introduce yourself for the record.
Thank you.
Madam Chair.
I remember that in the law from very read out kennel.
My pleasure to be here today on behalf of Arizona land consulting.
Jump to the next slide if you would.
The land we are talking about out here is out at a.
Three hundred thirty ninth avenue with one thousand six hundred and
eighty seven acres out in the ton of pot area.
Next.
It was originally entitled back in 2008 as part of the DNP that really was defunct and never happened next slide.
It was actually ultimately even zone as part of that.
With significant number of residential units, it was ultimately a master plan community.
All schools, commercial and unfortunately the infrastructure was not there to support it. Next slide, if you would.
This board may recall we were back here in December as part of the major comprehensive plan, and this site was improved for industrial at the time.
And we are here today in conformance with that approval. Next.
So our rezoning request is to modify to I2IUPD. Next if you would.
Consistent again with that comprehensive plan, really to look at employment, type uses, differing it into what you're seeing as this changing area.
That'll demonstrate here in just a minute. Next if you would.
As I mentioned, it's also consistent with the Tonepal Arlington area plan in addition to the comprehensive plan. Next.
So in terms of plan land uses in the area, you will see that there has been a pretty significant shift that Belmont here has become industrial.
There's quite a bit of heavy and light industrial. What we're proposing today is entirely consistent with that change. Next.
We are also in addition to the changes that you see along our western.
The western side of our property, we do have a significant sand and gravel operation that is on the eastern portion.
So this land is kind of sandwiched between the two, which is why we really think light industrial uses makes a whole lot of sense. Next if you would.
Again, very consistent with what this board is already approved out for the Belmont 1080.
Next. And then what I really want to touch on is this is a case where frankly supervisor Lesco in this board challenged us when we came here with the comprehensive plan amendment to do a lot of work with the community.
We had been doing that. We've had really good conversations with folks. Next slide if you would and I want to just highlight some of the things we were able to work out.
We were able to assure them that the primary access here will be 339 avenue.
If you look at where that purple star is, that's where the majority of folks kind of live out there.
So we're not cutting through their area, their way of life. Next slide if you would.
We also spend a great deal of time negotiating buffer zones. So we created a 22 acre area where we have limited the permitted uses.
We've got enhanced design standards where we have ensured them that the preservation of desert landscaping really given them significant restrictions in terms of what actually happens directly behind our home.
So next slide if you would. That first buffer zone, there's no structures, there's no parking, there's no storage, it's just circulation vehicle and pedestrian circulation access and native landscaping. Next slide.
Buffers zone number two. We've limited permitted uses, there's no outdoor storage, it's less on the other side of building. We've limited the maximum height. Again, we talked to them about specific design standards.
Next slide. We also restricted the uses that could go in that buffer zone. Next slide.
And then we also created a separate solar exclusion zone, that was a real concern if they wanted to have, they did not want to have solar behind their homes.
So we created an area where that would be specifically prohibited within 500 feet when generation is prohibited across the entire site.
So we're sort of very carefully negotiated with the community. This is to give you an idea of what those enhanced design standards would look like for those buildings.
And then what I will say in my form and it's here just to summarize is we were very grateful that the most impacted neighbors adjacent to this site, we were actually able to get letters of support.
Those were hard fought, lots of negotiations, and lots of commitments made, and we're grateful to have them. So we would respectfully request your support as well.
Thank you, Mr. Dow. Any questions?
Madam Clerk, have we received any requests to speak from the public?
Madam Chair, yes, we did receive via email three comments in opposition.
And out of those three in opposition two, wish to speak, and they've asked to speak virtually.
Sherry's Campbell and Erin Roscoe, both wish to speak just for the record, Mr. David Campbell is in opposition.
And I also have a friend of me two more requests to speak on item number seven. One of them is in favor from Andrew Ty.
Mr. Joe Hoff also is request to speak on item seven, but he did not indicate if he is in favor or in opposition.
Thank you.
Shall we proceed with the virtual testimony on this item? Madam Clerk.
Yes, first speaker, Sherry's Campbell.
Hi there, can you hear me?
Yes, and Ms. Campbell, you have three minutes.
Okay, thank you.
I own four persons of land in the Hossale Forest community.
I'm not merely a resident, but I'm also a small business owner.
It was likely that it will be disrupted by the removal of this rezoning request.
More broadly, this is a rural, rural, desert communities surviving on why not resources, limited water availability, and a stress electrical grid during summer.
Arizona is already in a 32-year drought that scientists are saying has shifted into a state of permanence, a peer review report to players that we have entered global water bankruptcy.
The state that comes after the crisis, when Craig measures what take it to tail the crisis.
A state of permanence in which systems can no longer rebound.
The proposed project would drive biological and life cycle alterations, habitat loss and fragmentation for various wild species.
Many that are supposed to be protected by the Endangered Species Act and Migratory Bird Treaty Act.
Species that personally recorded nesting on the site's under discussion.
It would create noise, polite, electromagnetic and air pollution that will threaten the peace, health, and overall well-being of nearby residents,
which is something the planning and zoning committee pretended to care so much about in the previous meeting regarding other agenda items in which the applicants.
We're not billionaire developers requests by the common men to use their land for purposes of business or entertainment all denied on the basis that these endeavors would disrupt the peace of the area and the quality of life of nearby residents.
On that basis alone why has this request not also been denied?
This would be more consequential than just in noise nuisance to the community.
And don't point to the economic growth and need of infrastructure as being justification for approval.
The guaranteed negative impact supersede any possible positive and will be more permanent.
The short-term payout you might expect will become an even greater cost and not just in terms of money.
Contrary to what the applicant says in terms of compatible land use, the only nearby operating industry is a couple hundred acre gravel line that doesn't even see from the properties.
And should we really be pointing to the Bellmont City concept which has seen zero developments since it was first touted almost a decade ago, by the way, as justifications for further development.
Accessing out of the water supply for this proposed Bellmont City would be challenging enough without a massive 1.5 gigawatt data center, which could also which could alone demand 10 million gallons of water per day.
Even if air coin technology is used versus the water cooling the impact to the electrical grid is a legitimate concern, particularly when you consider this new study that suggests vast data centers are creating their own heat islands.
Warming the land around them up by up to 16 degrees Fahrenheit. It already reaches 110 to 120 degrees, multiple days throughout the summer in this region, allowing this development to move forward would be inhumane.
And that would precipitate transformation of our desert home into an uninhabitable wasteland.
General urban development on its own, which you are all calling infrastructure improvements, will already exacerbate the heat island effect.
I think we residents thank you miss Campbell.
Madam clerk next speaker in opposition Aaron O'Rill School.
Mr. O'Rill School.
We're getting a lot of feedback.
Hello.
Hello, can you hear me?
Let's give it a try.
Yes.
My concerns are the same in alignment with Sherry's Campbell, and I would like to give my time to Sherry's to finish her opposition speaking points.
I'll three minutes. I'm sorry.
She has three more minutes, sir.
Yes.
I will exercise my discretion and allow.
Thank you.
Miss Campbell, you're up to bad again.
Hi.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Where did I stop that?
The heat island effect.
General urban development on its own, what you're calling the infrastructure improvements.
Well, already exacerbates that heat island effect.
It's talking about something we've enrolled residents didn't really have to worry much about.
But if this new study proves to be accurate, we could see temperatures over 130 degrees here.
That's not sustainable, and that cannot lead to what you all call progress or a successfully economy.
No, I personally cannot stop this progress as you call it.
But lack of natural resources can, and an uninhabitable environment will.
Your progress will lead to death, and I'd say that is a hugely backward, not forward.
It's not acceptable because this is preventable.
Maricopa County's planning and zoning decision makers and Board of Supervisors should use their authority to do the right thing for the lives and greatest need.
The voiceless and the disenfranchised who will be impacted the most by this.
By saying yes to industry or any major development in this area, maybe wiping and entire species of the face of this earth or pushing them to bring.
You may just be killing even one of us, a hostile, orange community resident, clinging to the peace and refuge.
That only this rural lifestyle can provide.
If that doesn't give you pause, you've been tragically desensitized by the power and greed of corporate America money and politics.
Approving this rezoning request would be irresponsible and frankly immoral.
Thank you for the time.
Thank you, Miss Campbell.
The Mr. Oralsko. Madam Clerk.
Next speaker, which is to speak in favor Andrew Ty followed by Joe Hoff.
Okay.
Mr. Ty, you have three minutes, are you here?
Thank you.
The attorney that represented the firm.
I agree with all and my questions were answered that I had from the statements that she made.
So I'd like to turn in my time.
Thank you very much, Mr. Ty.
Madam Clerk.
Joe Hoff.
And Mr. Hoff, I'm going to preent my colleague's question to you and I'm earlier board meeting.
Are you for or against the developments, sir?
Could you answer a question for me and how important is that with the very short statement that I've got here?
Let's see if it pertains to this.
Usually, it's always for or against or neutral.
Okay.
Can I proceed?
Please.
I would like to ask about the environmental and resource impacts associated with this proposed rezoning.
This site includes proximity to the Hassanford River and the permitted uses included are
including industrial operations such as data centers, which are known to require substantial water and power resources.
Can the board clarify whether a full environmental and water usage analysis has been completed and whether those findings are available to the public?
Additionally, how will long-term impacts to surrounding land, wildlife and water systems be monitored and enforced?
These are significant considerations given the size and scope of this project.
I reserve my time for my two questions to be answered.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Madam Clerk, are there any other speakers?
Madam Chair, no other speakers on this item.
Thank you.
Then I would ask for Ms. Redeld, come forward on behalf of the applicant.
Hopefully having taken note of those questions and other objections.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, members of the board.
We are here at the zoning phase.
We know that we have to work with Arizona Department of Water Resources.
We've had some preliminary conversations with them on the water.
As things eventually advance, we would be coming forward in doing any necessary environmental studies at that time.
It's all part of the process.
Thank you.
Any questions from board members?
Supervisor, Vice Chair, let's go.
No, I do not.
We heard this case before I think in December.
If I'm not mistaken, thank you.
Thank you.
Are there questions from any other board members?
Thank you, Ms. Redeld.
Thank you.
So, the board will now consider item number seven.
House of Yompa Ranch.
Is there a motion?
Yes.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I move for approval of planning and zoning agenda item numbers.
And accordance with the Commission recommendations as printed in the agenda.
Thank you, is there a second?
Second. It's been moved in seconded. Hearing no further discussion, we will proceed to a vote.
All those in favor will say aye.
Aye, aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
Reminding all that item number eight was withdrawn.
We will proceed to item number nine, planning and zoning.
Event space at Gamble Field Vice Chair Lesco.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe the applicant is here.
And so I'd like to hear from the applicant, if possible.
And, ma'am, I would like to, I'm limiting you to four minutes, please.
Okay. Please introduce yourself for the record.
Yes, ma'am. My name is Jane Piper, and I am the applicant for the events face at Gamble Field,
and I do live in District 4. Madam Chair and members Board of Supervisors.
Sorry, I'm very nervous.
It's okay.
So, what we are proposing if you go ahead and go to the next slide, please move out.
This is the actual view every morning when I wake up.
This is the sunrise over my actual property. It is not Photoshop.
It is my little slice of heaven for the first five minutes of every day.
After that, the day can kind of do. Next slide, please.
So, we are Gamble Field because of the large number of Gamble Clale on the property. Next slide.
We do currently host dog events, next slide, and you can thumb through to the slides pretty quickly.
So, the dog events are held by AKC, UKC, and ABA, and other nationally recognized entities and organizations.
They rent the field because the field is safe, secure for their dogs, allows security from traffic,
and allows for the dogs to do what dogs do, run, play, interact.
The problem we have, even having been passed the planning and zoning commission,
is that several of the conditions that are attached to this proposal are unduly burdensome and an abroneous application of the law
and bordering on unconstitutional. Next slide, please.
So, we do have a huge amount of support for our proposal. Next slide.
Keep going.
So, what we are asking for is 40 days a year, or that is what we have compromised to is 40 days a year
between October and April, using Friday Saturday's Sundays and Major Holidays only.
We are primarily a daytime operation. There are a few times when we will operate in the evening,
and most of the conditions that are proposed are not a problem at all, and we agree with those.
The problems that we have are the dedication of the road, as there is no essential nexus,
between that land dedication requirement, and our proposal, and it is not proportional to our use.
The problem additionally arises that when you have a required dedication that changes the size of the property,
and then you add in the Prop 207 waiver that says no changes of the made to the value of the property,
they cannot both stand at the same time.
So, one or the other has to go.
There is no essential nexus. This road has been functioning as a road illegally,
but functioning as a road says at least 2002.
The county built the road through 21 private properties, without first acquiring any right of way or land rights.
It was an eight foot telephone easement that the county came through and turned into a 30 foot wide road.
The records request that we have submitted supposedly the records only go back to 2018.
I do not believe that is true because they also did not provide any destruction of records certification for the records that supposedly no longer exist,
and those records should have been covered in my records request.
Additionally, I have not received any of the emails that I have requested amongst the various departments as to how they came about these determinations.
The assertion that has been made by the Department of Transportation is that the number of occupants or
number of people that can participate in our events must be kept low as well.
In part because the road currently has 92 average daily trips according to an email I received on March 11 after planning and zoning.
That is not true by Department of Transportation's most recent traffic count.
And I have those for you if you'd like to see them.
We are already at the 100 mark.
My limited traffic does not change the level of service on that road and would not require any additional improvements.
There are no changes that are needed.
These burdens are erroneous and need to be removed.
Thank you.
So I heard your two objections.
Are there those or the summary of your two objections?
Next year.
Let's go.
Questions?
Yeah.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I'll be brief.
Thank you for coming forward.
I just want to confirm that you're opposed at this time to your application because of certain things.
Correct.
You're in opposition.
No.
I mean, opposition of the illegal condition.
And the board has the authority and the discretion to remove that condition and approve the permit.
But as it stands on the agenda, you're opposed to it, correct?
As the conditions are written before you.
Yes.
We are opposed to that condition.
But that's not.
I feel like you are attaching the wrong language by Chair Lesco.
I'm not opposed to our own application that would be bizarre.
We are opposed to the illegal conditions and you have the discretion to remove those.
It's part of the job duty.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, I'd like to have this staff come forward.
I think that would be Mr. Ellsworth and Mr. Gutierrez.
Thank you.
To explain what has transpired.
Thank you, gentlemen.
And starting with Mr. Ellsworth.
Could you please introduce yourselves.
Make sure your mics are on and close for the record.
Yes. Madam Chair.
My name is Tom Ellsworth.
I am the director for Planning and Development.
Good morning.
Madam Chair.
Just a few together.
Director of Transportation.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, supervisor.
Thank you.
Madam Chair.
Members of the Board.
This request for a special use for a bit is on.
It's eight acres of a 19 acre property.
The property is zoned.
Rule 43.
So what that gives them the right to do it.
Currently for land use would be rural uses as well as residential uses.
Which is the property is currently being used for.
In the past couple of years there have been three requests for temporary use permits to allow temporary events on the site.
That's been occurring.
Each of those temporary use events has incrementally increased in its intensity.
With the last temporary use permit it went to the Board of Adjustment.
The Board of Adjustment indicated that with this level of intensity it was becoming more of a permanent use.
So the applicant has requested the special use permit for a permanent entitlement.
The original request was for up to 400 attendees at 60 days a year.
At that level of intensity and this became a permanent type of event venue.
It also would be considered a commercial type of venue under our codes.
With that come requirements for certain infrastructure improvements.
The request that came forward did not provide the adequate level of detail to show that those infrastructure improvements would be provided.
Some of those would include water service wastewater service.
The gradient and drainage for the parking area and ADA access.
As we proceeded through through the through the evaluation analysis of the request.
It became apparent that what what the applicant is proposing would be to have a permanent entitlement to what could be considered more of an interment use.
As you see on on the slide that she showed it's a very beautiful pristine location.
The intent is that my understanding and our discussions with the applicant the intent would be that after each of these events it returns to that pristine location.
So with that in mind as we as departments got together to look at those codes and what those requirements would be.
What are the thresholds where things would would be considered more of a temporary or interim type use.
As we looked at those codes the conditions of approval that were advanced through the commission are those ones that we came up with.
or the ones that would would allow for the use of portable portable toilets the ability to utilize the site.
As you can see in the for the for those smaller types of events that's where we came up with with the lesser intensive use of the 49 49 epic our 49 attendees.
Primarily as it relates to the questions that were brought up by the applicant today with regards to the prop 2 of 7 waiver or that section of the Arizona statute regarding.
waiver of liability that is a something that is asked of every applicant it's an acknowledgement that states that they are asking for for this decision.
And they're waving that this legislative act waving that ability to come back and seek.
Redress through that through that statute.
It's a common procedure it's something that goes through without that.
To proceed forward puts the county at that liability.
The other request is Mr. Gutierrez here's the speak to that is on the conditions of approval related to the infrastructure related to the transportation.
Chair before we move on to Mr. Gutierrez I just want to understand the first the first request was to have up to 400 attendees.
But there were certain in order to do that there had to be infrastructure improvements correct that is correct.
And then it is that you're understanding the applicant and want to do those infrastructure improvements for 400.
So you guys talked together I assume and then moved it down to 49 attendees.
So that there would be less infrastructure needs is that your understanding.
Chair may have a less correct.
Okay. Thank you.
May I please ask the follow-up.
Water services ADA access waste water services there was one more.
Transportation.
Thank you just a moment.
Vice chair.
Let's go.
Thank you and I would like Mr. Gutierrez with McDonough to explain the road.
The road situation.
Madam chairman vice chair.
I'll give you a little background on.
Three thirty first.
So is you see the slide there.
Three thirty first there's an existing roadways.
Hard to tell on that particular area there's more to follow.
But you could see the red arrow is the subject property.
And along that alignment north and south you can see a roadway.
This is all the way back to 1976.
Let's move on to the next slide.
The next slide you could clearly see there's a well defined road.
Well before this is 1986 now.
Three thirty first.
From lower buck I you could see the lower buck I writing on the area all the way
Vamburen on the north on the top of the slide.
There's a well defined road.
Yes there are other roadways scattered throughout but you could see
Three thirty first is a well defined roadway existing all the way back.
I'll start from 1976 this is 86.
And it serves multiple properties multiple neighbors.
As the area develops there was more.
The roadway was more defined.
So moving to the next slide.
Circa 1996 you can see the existing roadway.
There's a roadway there that serves a property.
The the arrow red arrow points to the property in question.
And it's a well defined road.
Again yes there are other adjacent roadways to properties and two deserts.
But this roadways well defined many years before.
But the claim the claim from the applicant was that we created the road in 2004.
The road has been there for over 50 years.
So the next slide.
Again is is a little more defined.
That's the current condition of the roadway.
We've met with the applicant obviously and had numerous discussions to try to.
Work through the SUP and I'll I'll talk more about that in a second.
But this is the the most current slide.
So in those next slide.
That's all right.
I think we're on the wrong one.
Going backwards.
Going.
Eight, nineteen.
Almost there in close.
Got more.
Right there.
So the existing roadway serves obviously a multitude of properties.
To points north and south of the applicants property.
It was taken into the county system by the board in 1994.
We discussed the need for the dedication.
Which is a standard practice for for the increase zoning entitlement to the county zoning zoning ordinance.
In the fact that this is a section line alignment and requires.
The house re-dedication.
Very clear.
Very straightforward.
The requirement for traffic impact study was waived.
The requirement for reservation of a 55 foot right away was waived and reduced.
To 40 feet, the half-street improvements that would typically be required from a business putting in the infrastructure have been waived.
Staff work to provide all the requested information. I know that one of the questions or one of the points made by the applicant that they didn't receive, the information we provided over 600 documents, four different directors have worked on this.
Personally, work with them directly to provide the answers to provide the support and any guidance that we could to try to make this work.
I know that one of the claims is that we didn't provide the documentation required, but that fact that we provided over 600 documents.
Director of Data Governance herself came to make not look through over 5,000 files herself to provide the information to the applicant.
When it comes to this move to the next slide?
This point of clarification, all those items that were waived, are they in relationship? Thank you for this project and relationship to this project.
Directly related to this project.
So when we look at this slide, it talks to the other points.
All those areas in blue along that alignment are state land.
We have a tremendous relationship with state land, and those right-of-way dedications that we would need for the roadway are granted through state land.
So the claim that we're going through properties without permission is to this slide, I'll speak to it.
Either going to be granted to us by state land or we can vote ARS 37931, which all the guarantees is that everything in blue there, the state land and property, that will have a right away for the roadway.
So those are not in question. It's kind of difficult to see, but then you'll see some yellow lines along 33.
Those are previous dedications from either subdivisions or private properties.
So what we're left with is two red arrows pointing to two properties.
Those are the only two dedications needed.
So the point that we don't have permission to be there and don't have the right away throughout the entire stretch is erroneous.
So we do have permission to be on the right away.
When we talk about those other areas that we do not have specific dedicated right away, because we've established that the road has been there for at least 50 years.
We have what's called prescriptive rights, prescriptive easements, the right.
And as I say, I'm speaking of the general public, all the neighbors, all the residents along the alignment are using that roadway for access to their properties and have been conspicuously using that for over 10 years.
Those are some of the tests to the prescriptive rights case law.
And the fact that they are using this on a daily basis as well as the applicant is using other people's property for access to their property is really speaks to prescriptive easement rights.
The fact that we can be there and all we are doing from the department transportation is maintaining that existing roadway for the residents providing a safe passage for that.
And to finalize my comments, the dedication allows us to finally get those last portions of right away so that we can continue and improve the the roadway for the business that's coming in and for the residents to continue to make the next level of improvement right now to dirt road.
Once we reach a level of traffic beyond under a hundred, which is what we're at right now, average daily traffic was re-measured.
I spoke to the applicant, I let her know that the numbers we're using were several years old and the number was about 75.
The applicant told me those are probably wrong so I asked for an expedited done in about two weeks, which normally takes two months, we got it done in two weeks got the numbers back and the numbers came back in the 90s.
So it didn't help the case that any more traffic along that route is going to trigger the need for make dot to start making more improvements for does mitigation for controlling the access in terms of making it a safer passageway.
All those points really are the nexus of the requirement and it is directly tied to this development.
So the fact that we are essentially asking for this dedication is strictly tied to the development and is clearly justified through our standard practices and policies and zoning ordinance and the fact that we're only trying to provide a safe passage for the residents on a roadway that's existed for over 50 years.
What's your thank you I have a couple questions and I think you already answered it but I want to make sure it's clear this isn't any unusual condition on this particular applicant correct this is before you would ask this of any applicant correct.
Madam chair, Madam vice chair absolutely.
The the roadway dedication is part of our zoning ordinance.
I think you know I even saw in the slides from the previous agenda item that was listed on there the requirement so and that they're inviting by and so absolutely this is standard practice it would not.
This is not specific to this this particular development.
Thank you and Madam chair I have a question again from Mr. Ellsworth Mr. Ellsworth can you under.
Explain to me again this went through the planning and zoning commission correct and these conditions were put on during the planning and zoning commission and can you explain the process I mean did the applicant like.
and agree to these conditions I'm trying to understand why it's changed.
Madam chair Madam vice chair that's correct during the planning zoning commission we had similar discussion to the one that's occurring today at this hearing.
During that there was motions made by the commission to to approve the site with these lesser intense conditions of approval at that point the chair asked the applicant if they were agreeable to those conditions at which point they had indicated they were.
They did try to have a discussion on on points of those conditions but these are the conditions that came forward.
That's all the questions I have for this staff.
Thank you.
I wish to proceed on this in terms of.
It seems like first of all Madam you have been raising your hand.
I'm going to give you four more minutes please.
For rebuttal.
Madam chair and Board of Supervisors I have the documents would you like to see them I have the traffic counts Mr. Gutierrez speaks of he is mistaken.
We are not in the 90s the average daily traffic count by make dots count.
Not my count is already at a hundred.
Why is he misleading this board?
I also have the building codes that Mr. Ellsworth refers to and we also did not agree to a count of 49 people.
We objected strenuously to that also at planning and zoning.
I have the records would you like to see them I make copies for everyone.
Or do you not care about the truth.
Respectfully I'm trying very hard to be respectful.
And I am too but what I'm trying to say is it's not appropriate to have us look at the records here up the dias and make a decision.
The records are not invited to me prior to planning and zoning.
I understand that was a concern.
It's a huge concern and speaks to fairness.
I'm going to let district four by share.
Let's go proceed.
Did you have any other items you wish to read about or comments that you wish to?
I would like to address Mr. Ellsworth's statement that we agreed.
We agreed in order and it was made clear on the record at planning and zoning that we were only agreeing in order to move the process forward.
We had been precluded from filing for additional temporary use permits.
And because we are no longer able to file for additional temporary use permits we have no recourse to we cannot both use our property in the way that we would like even temporarily and still continue negotiations with planning and development and make dot and all of the various other county departments.
So we have no choice but to move forward.
Otherwise this this this body could very well reinstate our ability to apply for temporary use permits.
Send this back for further negotiation and have everybody attempt to come to a better solution.
But we can't do that if our only other available recourse the temporary use permits has already been precluded at the request of planning.
Which is in the record from the Board of Adjustment.
Thank you.
Supervisor.
Yes thank you madam chair.
I move that we.
Remand item number nine back to the planning and zoning commission which will give the applicant and the staff time to continue their discussions.
I mean this is a very unusual.
A situation.
It's never happened to me before where the applicant went through planning and zoning agreed to conditions and then came back in front of the board and does not agree to the conditions.
And so it's it's never happened to me and I've talked to the planning and zoning.
I don't know that it's happened to them where the applicant came back and said nope by don't agree.
I'm going to remand it back to planning and zoning so you guys can further talk and and that's my motion.
Yes there's second.
Before proceed to a vote.
I do have discussion.
From my board member perspective.
I think everything that could be waived has been waived.
And it appears that your business is successful.
It's getting more and more successful and it's created the intensity of use on the property that now requires a special use permit.
And also I think the road to history has been outlined.
I understand where you're coming from but.
I cannot support the motion respectfully because I think this project should be denied and maybe try again down the road.
I'm going to add a respect for supervisor.
Let's go.
A little heard to drive the bus.
That being said, I will ask for a roll call vote.
Does it matter that we have.
Excuse me.
We have speakers scheduled.
This is a public hearing.
Madam clerk.
Where are their speakers?
Madam chair.
I do have in front of me for speaker four.
Okay. Well that changes that there's a motion on the table.
But we will for go the boat.
Who has signed up to speak?
Madam chair.
Brad may field in favor.
Kimberly.
Lower in favor.
Mark Graham.
Oh please.
Excuse me.
County County rules apply.
Would the maker of the motion and the second please withdraw.
And we'll start over.
Madam chair.
I'll withdraw the motion for the time being.
Thank you.
Madam chair.
I'll withdraw.
Thank you.
I'll get their book.
It's different than school board.
Who are the speakers?
Please.
Madam chair.
In favor.
Brad may field.
Kimberly.
Lower.
Mark Graham.
Lower.
Lower Garza.
Did not.
Indicated.
She is in favor.
Or in opposition.
Please.
Comfort.
Mr. Mayfield.
Excuse me.
Madam chair.
Where have you been out there?
Pardon me.
Madam chair.
You're probably getting here.
But as a speaker comes forward.
How many minutes per speaker on this item?
I'm going to do three minutes.
Are you ready to go?
Okay.
I'm Brad may field.
I've lived out there for 50 years.
I would like to clarify some of his statements on the existing roadway.
Okay.
It might have been a two track two houses.
But it was not a roadway in 1976 or 86.
In 2002, a homeowner at the corner of Lower Buckeye and Rickenberg Road blocked the road
because it was his private property.
The signs are in place two days at the county install for closing that part of the road.
That's when they built the road.
And the new alignment, open to the public. Before hand, it was a two-track that taken mirrors off your car, if you didn't watch it. It was not a public-used road for clarity.
Also, for clarity, I have a piece of parcel that I'm letting the public use. It's dated five acres. I pay taxes on four and a half. I never got a letter, information saying they were taking property from me for any reason, legally or not.
The county has a lot of problems out there that they're refusing to address. They need to get their crap together as homeowners and treat us properly with respect.
If there was no easement, it was a power line utility, which has not allowed for public traffic as I understand it may be on-roll.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Allowing neighbors to use it out of kindness turns into they take it without any due process.
I do not believe that's fair. And that has happened to wherever your map is. A lot of us out there.
I have two other parcels you've done it to me on both ends of the same parcel. So I will lose in an acre on parcels because you take in it or plan to take it.
Some can still be worked out. Yes, for the world, the times are caught up to us. The pagulation is caught up to us, needs are caught up to us. It's time the county caught up to us to brought us into the modern age.
Legally. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Porter. Next up, Kimberly. Lowly followed by Mark Graham.
I'm Kimberly Lowley and half of the road. I've never given up any of my property. If I've sinned that in, everyone's bought.
Knowing to go up or down. I've not been approached. Asked about given up any of the property. I've not nothing. I've paid taxes on this for the last 10 years.
As a homeowner, as my personal property. And I've had to give written permission to jame for her. People would be able to go across there.
Because it's my personal property. After that road, it's not a road. It looks like a road if they maintain it.
But until one day, it's a road and the next day I'm told it's not. And I haven't given up anything. And no one has taught to me or asked me anything.
And I'm the very first part of that road coming off of lower by going north.
So I would like to have this get resolved. I have no issues with gamble field. I'm all for everything that they do.
But this road is becoming a problem. And it needs to be fixed. Thank you.
Mr. Mark Graham also in favor followed by Lu and Mar Garza.
Hi, my name is Mark Graham. I am the property owner and therefore obviously I'm in support. What I would like the board to do is to approve this application with the removal of the road dedication requirement and an alteration of the number of people requirement.
I am extremely upset with the way Mr. Guterres has been misrepresenting and playing fast and hard with the truth.
The road already has a road count of over 100, which requires EPA stabilization, which they had last year.
So for them to have previously done the road stabilization at a cost of 300,000 taxpayer dollars.
Yeah, we pulled those records. Oh, and as a side note, yeah, he did give us a data dump of some 600 documents 500, which were for other roads we didn't request information on.
But don't act like the big volume of information they gave us was relevant. He still refuses to provide the documents we requested claiming they no longer have them, even though the law requires they being maintained in perpetuity.
There are some serious shenanigans going on with that. Also the 49 person thing is tied back to whether the road is stabilized.
The 49 people EPA is going to require that the road be stabilized. They already did stabilize it last year.
20 20 had over 100 car count, which required the stabilization, which they did in January of 2025. Again, 300,000 taxpayer dollars.
We talked up through our count 21 privately owned properties and they had not the Board of Supervisors said in 94.
Go build the road, but get the access to it, get the acquire it.
They built it without acquiring it. That constitutes an illegal taking under both federal law and state law.
And we have repeatedly offered to negotiate the deeting of the road and Mr. Gutierrez has zero interest in buying or otherwise acquiring what he thinks he can just take.
Oh, and the county attorney at that Board of Adjustment meeting, the one that we retired acknowledged that this is all private property.
Now, we're not opposed to being a road there, even though I'm paying taxes on it, but the idea that we do a permanent dedication in exchange for a temporary permit.
Because even though it's a special use permit, it's got a time limit on it. At the end of our permit, do we get our road back? Because if we don't get our road back, then the property has been diminished in value.
So, all we want to do is let dogs play in the field. What we propose is that the road issue be separated and dealt with as a separate issue, which is going to have to be anyway at some point in the future.
But we will accept the terms as they are in order to get the permit approved, because we have hundreds of people who want their dogs to play in this field.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Ms. Garza.
Hello, Mr. Berigarza.
I reviewed the hyperlinks on this particular item. There were 471 pages attached.
One thing that nobody has mentioned is that you'll notice in item D of number 9.
It says that we have on Friday, Saturday and Sunday is only October through April and holidays. Hundreds of dogs have in fun.
And so happens in Arizona that the Quail Hunting season is October through March, I believe.
So, in that regard, the only reason I'm kind of looking at it is it goes from 49 people to 400 people.
And the gentleman did note on here, and I will repeat what he stated on one of these 471 pages.
This is overall natural unimproved outdoor space, where people and dogs can participate in the vast openness without concrete traffic or other city characteristics.
But there are guns involved, because Quail Hunting involves guns and then you have dogs all over the place chasing them.
This is what I'm understanding from what's going on in here. It is Gamble's a Quail and she did mention that there's Quails all over the place.
So I'm wondering if there is a safety factor regarding a lot of guns in one area where you jump from 400 people down to 49.
And I also read it that said that they wanted a 30 year SUV and you brought it down to a 10 year SUV.
Is that a concern regarding the Quail Hunting, the noise, I don't know what else might be, it's just I'm throwing it out for thought, but it is in those 471s and I'll give the rest of my time for you to answer those questions.
And thank you very much for the extra minute. It gives us a lot more to work with. And you did take my number eight, but that's okay. Thank you.
Well,
Madam.
Vice chair, let's go.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I didn't know if Mr. Gutierrez wanted some time to talk about the allegations against him.
Madam Chair, Madam Vice chair.
The ADT average daily traffic counts given taken by staff and given to me by staff indicated in the 90s.
The wrong number data that was provided as part of the transparency and request indicate different numbers.
There's a phone Larry that you use traffic engineering to accommodate and come up with the average daily traffic ADT that we use.
But that's almost a regardless to the dedication requirement in the zoning ordinance, the zoning ordinance requires that we get a half street dedication on these section lines.
Those are two separate things. On top of that dedication, we are looking at the added traffic, the added volumes that push us, whether it's 102 to 120, 150, whatever the vehicle count is that we take the next step to improve the roadway to make it safe to reduce the dust and the problems that we have.
So those items are interconnected but the way they're being described is not exactly accurate.
So it's a very straightforward methodology that we use. We follow the ordinance. We follow the processes and the zoning ordinance is very direct requirement for the half street dedication.
Nothing to do with the actual weather we spent and we were actually told by the applicants that we did a great job of maintaining this roadway for since the board took it in in 1994 we've done everything we could as a DOT to make it a safe roadway.
So we have done we have expanded those bodies and we shared that information. We provided that information in full transparency.
We have provided everything we have because the initial request was very general and very large so I think the information shared depicted the fact that we do request this from other applicants not just you and that's why it was shared.
There's relevant to the request so a lot of those things are not exactly accurate and I'm not saying they're intentionally inaccurate by the applicant I'm just saying they're just inaccurate.
So hopefully that answers the average daily traffic the requirement for the half street dedication which is what we require everybody.
And the fact that we have because the board of supervisors took this roadway into the roadway system we therefore maintain it since 1994's part of the road file doing our due diligence and doing the best we can so along with that any any further questions.
Be happy to answer.
No supervisor story.
Thank you madam chair. So I'd like supervisor Lesco's idea of tableliness to another meetings that we can get these things worked out with the applicant.
Obviously we want to support small business sounds like a great opportunity for dog to play and for people to take advantage of it.
The neighbors seem to be okay with it we just got to figure out this road issue and I kind of see these as possibly two separate deals that have come together like this.
What the idea of like tableliness to another meeting but my question madam chair is Tom if we do that and then the stipulation change or we make adjustments.
Can that be done by staff or does this need to go back to planning and zoning for a review again and then come back to us at another time and it sounds like we've got some time to do that since the season.
Starts in October April's halfway over. What are your thoughts? Thank you madam chair.
So madam chair supervisor Stewart.
The process if it were if you were to vote to remand to P&Z we would take it back with the direction from this board to work out conditions of approval that are acceptable to the applicant that can be worked out with the recommendation back to this board from the planning and zoning commission.
So if we went back we would be discussing with the applicant those conditions of approval the numbers on those conditions.
And then be back here once we have a recommendation from the P&Z board or commission.
Sorry.
Mr. Gallauder or Mr. Gallauder, do you have comments?
I don't have any madam chair.
So it might apologies Mr. Gallauder's.
I don't know and then you.
You know madam chair. I mean I have no really anything to add at this point only that you know.
The more I think about it the more I want to vote no.
To be honest on everything start from scratch.
But I do I do like the direction that.
I think everybody in the less goes going this is our district. I always defer to that supervisor.
And and I believe she has a motion that I'll be supportive of.
That might help us move the train.
Forward so I will reserve my comments for that motion.
Thank you supervisor Galvin.
Yeah, I'm.
I think I'm going to reserve comments for the motions but I just want to say madam chair at the onset.
I'm a, uh, you know, involved at the Sler against our staff.
Uh, the turns including playing fast and loose with the facts.
I know that Mr. Gutierrez is a man of integrity and a man of honesty who is worked very hard on a wide variety of projects.
I'm behalf of the county and I know Mr. Ellsworth and his team at the planning department are also honest and trustworthy people.
And I know that they have been working on an honest and trustworthy basis on this project in this case.
project in this case as well and they think they've done a really good job of advocating and standing up and behalf.
I just want to say any attacks on staff, especially in their integrity, to me, is appalling an uncold for, and I'll reserve other comments that my thoughts in this case later when we vote. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Madam chair, just real.
Sir, I do want to echo the comments by Supervisor Galvin. Don't attack the staff, guys. Don't. Hands off.
All right. Have issues come talk to us. We'll work them out. We're willing to do that, but don't attack staff. All right. Staff's off limits.
Excuse me.
Thank you, Madam chair.
This is an interesting case, as I've said before, because it's the first time that has happened to me, where they applicant agreed to something and now doesn't agree to something.
The conditions. And it's been kind of confusing quite frankly, because I think the owner is your name, Mr. Graham.
I think, yeah, I think he said first that you were like, well, you want this approved without the road stuff and without the limit of the 49 people. You want to go back up to 400 people.
Excuse me, but then at the end, if I'm not mistaken, you said, well, I want you to prove it. So I'm really quite confused, quite frankly.
And so, you know, you heard what's going on here. I think there's some ideas from some of the board members just to deny the thing outright, right?
And then you'd have to wait a year, a year to reapply.
I think my motion is actually doing you a favor, which is to remand it back to the planning and zoning commission, because it sounds like it's going to go either that way or just outright denial. I don't know, but that's what I heard here.
And so I'm going to make a motion again, because I do support small businesses and private rights, but I also do know that in my over a year working with the staff, they're honorable people that do a great job.
I've worked with both of them extensively, and so you may believe something is happening, but it's hard for me to believe that because I've worked with them for over a year on a lot of different issues.
So that's not helping your case. I know you're upset, but you know, going after the staff and saying they're lying about things, it's just hard for me to believe.
So with that, I'm going to do my motion again. I move that item number nine be remanded back to the planning and zoning commission.
Thank you. Is there a second? Second. As before, I will ask for a roll call vote, and along with their vote, if each supervisor would make comments explaining their vote, I would appreciate it. Madam Kirk.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I will go ahead and support the motion that's on the table.
These types of projects, particularly those that are relatively in the rural areas, tend to be a little bit more difficult than those that are in the urban areas.
It takes a little bit more time to look at it and work out some of the possible challenges with each project.
But I have all faith that folks will come together and try to come up with a proposal that the board will support.
However, there's a strong possibility. You'll have the same stipulations on the project you have now. It may not even change. It can come right back to us looking the exact same.
That's a strong possibility. And in that case, you're going to have to decide if you want to move forward or withdraw about this type of application.
That's just the world we live in right now and in this particular area dealing with some of the challenges. So Madam Chair, I am happy to support the motion that is put on the table by supervisor Lesco.
I think she's in the right direction in trying to really help the applicant in making sure that this project that they want is in fruition and it is meets all the different county and state standards.
Madam Chair, I support the motion.
Supervisor Gayardo Vauxai.
Vice Chair Lesco.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't know that I have any more comments. I do have some concern that, you know, you have to decide if you wanted 400 people to attend this or 49 people to
attend this project because if you want 400, there's some infrastructure you need to agree to do. And that's just the way it is.
With anybody, with any applicant. And so I'm reminding it, I'm making this motion to try to help the applicant.
And with that, I vote aye.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Can you hear me? Yes.
I also support the motion and applaud Vice Chair Lesco under leadership on this. I do think that there must be a strong and healthy respect for the process.
I do not like hearing the applicant say that they agree to all the conditions just to move it forward, but don't actually agree. That's not how it works.
To me, if you give you word, that's what it means. That's what you're supporting.
And so our planning and zoning commission works really, really hard. Each of them are appointed by members of this board.
I have two members that have planning commission that I support and respect 100% and I know how hard they take the process.
And I would hate to think that they were hard in a case like this, only to hear someone say, well, we only agree to the conditions just to move it forward.
That's how it works, Madam Chair. And so I'm going to keep that in mind if this case ever comes back before this board of supervisors.
And secondly, I just urge and ask staff to continue maintaining positions that feel strongly for the good of the county on behalf of the county, which I know they will.
But I do not expect anyone to lay down just to make a deal for the sake of making a deal.
So I strongly encourage the applicant to work with everyone in good faith. And I will vote to support the motion. I thank you.
Supervisor Stewart.
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, is it local politics fund or local things like this fund?
There's so many moving parts, right? And we're trying to help a community member run a small business. We're also trying to be safe by making sure that there's sewage or that there's running water.
That there's good, safe traffic flow and trying to make Mary all those together as we're migrating from a very, very rural area to something that has a little bit more activity.
And so the county is there to support not only the community, but the community at large to make those things happen.
So when these things come down the pipe, it was a weird one, right? It's eight years in city council. I've never had something like this and certainly in the two years almost that we've been here. I haven't dealt with something like this.
My suggestion is to support the, I will be supporting the motion to table this, but staff is here to help you get through the traps, right?
And if you have an issue and you don't think that things are lining up, address it with your supervisor for your district and we'll get to the bottom of that.
But staff's going to work hard to make this work not only for you, but for the public, that's their role as a customer service department and they're good at that.
So with that, I'll be voting aye. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Chair, Profi McGee.
So respectfully to my colleague, none of this is fun, but it is local government in action.
To the applicants, the problem was clearly stated in Mr. Elzworth's opening comments.
You, the success of your venue means you no longer fit a temporary use permit.
Too many people like it, too many people are so then you have to become a special use permit, which creates more requirements.
And if you think about the road aspect, you've got more people coming, people driving on those roads.
And I think the staff has done a wonderful job in presenting.
Obviously there's been, I think what we have is a case of hearing what you want to hear.
But I've spent a long time in local government and I have spent that entire time holding staff accountable.
This staff is accountable every day for what gets done here, for the benefit of Maricopa County taxpayers, residences and businesses and businesses.
The final straw for me, you further weakened your case by attacking that same staff.
I don't think you either got to get small again, or if you get big, you need to meet those requirements.
And I'm not seeing a solution here.
I'll do respect by share. Let's go. I will vote no on this.
Thank you.
The motion carried on a four one vote to remand, back to planning and zoning.
Thank you.
We will now proceed to statutory hearings for Clerk of the Board.
Item 10, a liquor license application for roadrunner, restaurant and saloon.
And 11, a bingo license application for St. Rose, Philippine, DuShane, Catholic parish.
Also transportation, 12A, road file, number 8046-R.
And 13 through 15, patent abandonment easements as shown on the agenda.
Madam Clerk, do you have any speaker forms?
Madam Chair, none on these items.
Thank you. The Board will now consider items 10 through 15.
Is there a motion?
Thank you. Madam Chair, I move that we approve items 10 through 15.
Thank you. Is there a second?
It's been moved and seconded.
All those in favor will say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed?
The motion passes for a zero with one absent.
We will now proceed.
Madam Chair, I do vote there.
Yes. Mr. Stewart left through.
I'm not sure if I apologize.
But we are coming up on items 16 through 63, which is the consent agenda.
It's my understanding, Mr. Stewart.
I wanted to pull one. He better give me the number now.
We're just going to vote it through.
So Mr. Stewart or other supervisors, do you wish to move any item from the consent agenda?
Madam Chair.
Item number 29 please.
Okay. Any others?
So we will vote or motion on item 16 through 28.
And the 30 through 63.
Did I get that right, Madam Clerk?
Madam Chair, yes, you did.
Eight numbers.
Is there a motion to that effect?
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I move that we approve item 16 through 28 and 30 through 63.
Thank you, is there second?
Second.
Hearing no further discussion, we will proceed to a vote.
All those in favor will say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed?
Motion passes unanimously.
We will now go to item number 29 for separate consideration.
Mr. Stewart.
Madam Chair.
Thank you very much.
I'd love a presentation from staff on this particular item.
I just want to deeper understanding of the agreement that we're entering into here.
Thank you.
Is there anybody here from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office?
Oh, Mr. Printville.
Is that on the other side?
Welcome.
And see, hold the microphone close.
Make sure it's on and tell everybody who you are.
Jim Printville, CFO Sheriff's Office.
Please proceed.
So this agreement is with the DEA through Homeland Security.
For the last 15 years or so, we've had an agreement with an organization called OSA
Death, which is the organized crime drug enforcement task force.
That organization or that unit has been disbanded by the DOJ this year.
So this work of drug enforcement and cartel investigation is now falling under Homeland Security Task Force.
And they work through the DEA on this.
We basically resurrected the same mission just through a different part of the government.
So our team...
Because cartel activity continues to encroach deeper and deeper into our county, it makes sense for our deputies to work with the DEA and with their federal funding, we're able to buy equipment, investigative tools, pay for analysts, things like that.
The original agreement sent to us from the DEA was just an MOU. We worked with the county attorney and split that into not only an MOU that dictates how our deputies work with the DEA.
We also then did a cost reimbursement agreement, which outlines the kinds of equipment and services that we can use their money for.
And that's what we have here today is both of these agreements now need to be approved so that we can continue our work.
This round of the contracts is down a federal fiscal year, so technically it started back in last October, but it took a long time for the DEA and the Homeland Security sort out which projects they wanted to continue and not continue.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate the background on that. This is a good agreement. I appreciate some of the background as it relates to how it's going to be paid for.
I'll be reimbursed, that's something that I'm always interested in understanding how that works in our partnership with the different agencies, whether that be state federal or what have you or municipal for that matter. So I appreciate the background on that.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Madam Clerk, are there any speakers on this item?
No, speaker's, Madam Chair. Thank you. I think that's good. Any more questions?
Okay. We will proceed to a vote on number 29, Madam Vice Chair.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that way, approve item number 29. Is there a second?
It's been moved and seconded. Hearing no further discussion, we will proceed to a vote. All those in favor will say aye.
Aye. Any opposed? Motion passage unanimously.
Board, we've taken previous action on the next item, 64. We will move to item 65.
The IGA between Maricopa County and Stadium District.
Madam Clerk, has anyone signed up to speak? Madam Chair, yes, we do have two requests to speak from Jamie Martin and Lori Baroney.
Okay. Miss Martin?
Hello. This is again item 65. I have a, all of our concerns regarding the assessments being collected for bond repayment.
I have three questions. The first one can afford to clarify whether property owners were given an opportunity to review or challenge the assessment amounts before they were finalized.
Two, wherever the postings placed.
And is there a publicly accessible document that shows how each parcel's share of the repayment was calculated from a public standpoint?
It's important to understand not just that assessments exist, but how they were determined and shared point and whether the processes and shared fairness and adequate notice.
If property owners were not, I'm chair point of order.
Or could not challenge the results? That's a process failure.
Madam chair point of order. Excuse me, Miss Martin. I believe the point of order is min-raised.
Madam chair, I believe the speaker is intending to speak on item 66.
And this is currently a time for speaking on 65.
It's the IGA between Maricopa County and Stadium District.
I just have the public awareness and fairness attributes.
I tell you what, I think, in looking at the next item, can you hold off on your comments?
Has anybody else, and will call you forward on 66?
Madam chair, Laura Baroni, also marked item 65.
Are we looking at our agenda numbers and confirming?
Because I'm not seeing anyone else coming forward.
Okay, we're getting there.
Thank you, Brooke.
I need to start calling you by your last name, but thank you very much.
There is no further discussion on this item.
We will proceed with a motion, Madam Vice Chair.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that we approve item number 65.
Is there a second?
Second.
Okay, it's been moved and seconded.
Hearing no further discussion, we will proceed to a vote.
All those in favor will say aye.
All those opposed, motion passes unanimously.
We will now recess as the Board of Supervisors and convene as the Improvement District Board of Directors.
Madam Clerk, speakers.
Yes, Madam Chair.
I have three speaker forms in front of me.
Again, Jamie Martin, I have changed that to item number 66.
Lowry Baroni, item number 66, and Tom Arnold, item number 67.
Ms. Martin.
Sorry.
Okay.
Hello, I'm Jamie Martin.
I am 66.
I have a follow up concern regarding the assessments being collected for bond repayment.
Can the Board please clarify whether property owners were given an opportunity to review or challenge the assessment
amounts before they were finalized?
Number two, where were the postings placed and then third?
Is there a publicly accessible document that shows how each parcel share of the repayment was calculated?
From a public standpoint, it's important to understand not just the assessments exist,
but how they were determined and whether the process ensures fairness and adequate notice.
If property owners were not properly notified or could not challenge the results,
that looks at the process failure and a corrective action plan would resolve it.
Thank you, Madam County Manager.
Well, let's hear from Ms. Baroni as well and accumulate any questions and get those answers.
So, specifically I'd like to request clarification regarding the collection of those assessments tied to the bond repayment of this
painting and proven district.
First, specifically, can the Board clearly state for the record what the total repayment obligation is,
including interest for the affected property owners.
Second, additionally, how were those property owners formally notified of their financial obligation
and were they provided with clear breakdowns of the long-term cost prior to the assessments being finalized?
It's important because these types of obligations can significantly impact residents and transparency regarding the total cost and
of qualifications critical for public trust.
So, I'd also like what criteria you use and where there are any safeguards in place to prevent over extension of financial obligations tied to property assessments,
and specifically what analysis was conducted to ensure that issuing the debt is the most appropriate and cost effective option compared to alternatives.
Understanding the decision making process behind using these bonds is important for public accountability and long-term.
This will resolve responsibility.
Two questions were asked. I'd like to reserve my time.
I'd also like to make it clear that 90% of the agenda items to speak on today are off.
Thank you.
Since 67 is the same project, Mr. Arnold, please come forward with your questions.
Please comment.
Good morning.
A gender item, 67.
I would like clarification regarding the cost sharing structure for this intergovernmental agreement.
The county appears to be contributing the majority of the funding for this project.
The question one is, can the board explain how the cost distribution was determined?
And what proportional benefit county taxpayers are expected to receive?
And two, please.
Additionally, how is it ensured that county funds are being allocated in a way that referees reflects, excuse me, equitable benefit across the border, excuse me, broader county population?
Understanding how these partnerships are structured helps in your transparency and fairness in the use of public funds.
Thank you.
That concludes public participation, Mr. Gutierrez.
Good morning, Madam Chair.
Members of the board.
Jessica Gutierrez, county engineer.
Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the board.
Lana Lewicki, Superintendent of Street.
I'll give a very brief overview on this project.
I might answer a lot of questions initially and then I'll ask Lana to fill in the blanks with details of the funding and the numbers.
This is a public improvement district, a paving improvement district.
And essentially the neighborhood, the property owners themselves came together, requested that the county design, bid, build and operate this roadway on their behalf.
They are funding it in its entirety.
The transparency comes through numerous steps, which this particular item and the next one are steps six and seven of the entire process.
We've gone through steps one through five before the board.
Everything from the postings to the acceptance of the design, the assessment map, what each homeowner is going to pay.
The cost estimates from the contractor, essentially through every step, each homeowner has been notified directly and in person about their contribution, their expected contribution.
And in the final contribution, they've been kept up the speed on the progress of the project through the last four years, it's been a long process five years now.
And essentially there are no gaps in the communication or the transparency.
Every single homeowner is fully aware and voted on the project and anything related to it specifically.
Giving that background, I know there are several specific questions.
I'll ask Lana, our superintendent of the streets to talk to those specific points.
Yes, Madam Chair, members of the board.
To first, just these touch space on the public notifications, but as per statute, we followed the notifications required each step of the forming the district and all the resolutions that have been previously approved.
The assessment of the questions was a assessment amount.
I've started off, we collected $259,000 and $40 and $222,000 in cash payments from property owners, which resulted in $189,000, $320 in a penny that are going to go to bond.
The total bond plus interest that this will result in is $280,000 and $265, sorry, I'm curious to that, $286,000, $565 and $31,000 that's bond plus interest over the next 10 years.
There are 14 properties that will have assessment amounts that will be collected.
The county is not paying as Jesse has stated the county is not paying for any of this is all funded by the property owners and the road is accepted into the county and we will be maintaining it going forward.
Thank you very much. Any questions from board members?
Madam Chair, please.
Thank you. This is district on one item. We've, this is probably the third or fourth time we've explained that the community, the neighbors have come together and said we want the county's help to build a road that can use our buying power.
They can use our services. They can use our bonding authority. All those things to make it easier for them to do the work in their neighborhood.
And so this is a good thing. I just hope that if any of the neighbors are watching, you know, don't be concerned about the questions to ask today.
The community is just trying to get to more understanding of how that when you see the word bond, it usually makes people nervous.
But this is a bond that the neighbors will be paying. Correct?
Okay. Great. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Any other comments or questions from board members?
Thank you, Mr. Gutierrez.
Thank you.
Reminds me of a story about, you may be seated.
About Americans getting together to solve a problem at the lowest level possible.
And that is how the county works. That's how we work. We're not going to go to our senator. We're not going to go to our congressmen.
We're going to go to our neighbors and say, we need this. Let's get together and figure it out.
And thank you for facilitating that, Mr. Gutierrez.
The board will now consider item 66 or 67 is their motion.
Madam Chair, I move that we approve item number 66 and 67.
Is there a second?
Second.
Hearing no further discussion, we will proceed to a vote. All those in favor will say aye.
Aye.
Motion passes unanimously.
We will adjourn as the improvement district board of directors and convenes of flood control district.
Administrative Board of Directors to consider items 68, 69, and 70, IDA with the town of Carefree Personnel Agenda, and easement right away and relocation assistance documents.
Madam Clerk, do you have any speaker forms?
Madam Chair, none on these items.
Thank you. The Board will now consider items 68, through 70, is there a motion, Madam Vice Chair?
Madam Chair, I move that we approve items number 68, through 70.
Okay, there's a motion on the table, is there a second?
Second.
Hearing no discussion, we will proceed to a vote. All those in favour will say aye.
Aye. Any opposed?
Hearing no opposition, the motion passes unanimously.
We will adjourn as a flood control district board of directors, and convenes as a library district board of directors.
Madam Clerk, are there any speaker forms?
Madam Chair, we received one speaker form from Leslie Shepherd, which is to speak on this item number 71.
Thank you.
Going once.
Ms. Shepherd, do you have two minutes?
Okay.
Ms. Shepherd, yes.
Okay, agenda item number 71.
I understand this item is presented as a personal agenda.
However, not as a personal agenda, but however it directly relates to the operation, the oversight of the county library system.
So I am addressing this as a matter of oversight responsibility.
I want to raise concerns that issues involving materials, accessibility to minors within the library system,
are being addressed with the same, are not being addressed with the same level of attention, review and transparency that the public would expect.
From a public perspective, when personnel and oversight structures are approved, there is an expectation that the systems are actively ensuring appropriate standards,
especially where children are involved.
So I am providing this as a direct criticism.
Can the board clarify what oversight mechanisms are currently in the place to ensure that materials accessible to minors are being reviewed or excuse me.
Two minors are being reviewed appropriately, and whether any recent reviews or audits of those materials have been conducted and made publicly available.
This is a direct criticism, and under your own rules, you may respond.
I know that happens during public comment that we have to say that, but I want you to know I'm actually addressing it that way.
Given that this is more for you, given that interruptions and unrecognized speaking from the dias occur, there is no reason these questions cannot be answered.
Because you have a tendency of interrupting people, even if they've only said one or two kids.
Is that your testimony?
No, that was my question.
That's your testimony.
No, that was my question.
There was a question in there.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Whether the recent reviews of audits of the community who may be seated.
The board will now consider item 71.
Madam Vice Chair, is there a motion?
Thank you, Madam Chair.
I move that we approve item number 71.
Second.
It's been moved and seconded.
Hearing no discussion, we will proceed to a vote.
All those in here will say aye.
Aye.
We will say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed?
Madam Chair.
After you vote, I will take your comments, sir.
I vote aye.
Thank you.
Motion passage unanimously.
Supervisor Galvin.
Sorry, Madam Chair.
I was trying to get in and see if I could explain my vote.
But I do just want to remind everyone that if there's any information that they seek,
they can always follow public records, your quest for full available in the state that they would need.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you.
We will adjourn as the Library District Board of Directors and reconvene as the Board of Supervisors for public comment.
And supervisors, county manager, summary of current events.
Madam Clerk, public comment.
First of all, do we have anybody who has submitted comments by email?
Madam Chair, yes, we did receive a few email comments regarding water concerns,
concerns about litreal park, elections and corrective action plan.
And all those email comments have been shared.
We have a total of 22 speaker forms for public comment.
Okay, please start.
First up, Jamie Martin, followed by Amanda Moniz and Lisa Everett.
Hi, I'm Jamie Martin, Dear Board.
We need to discuss complaints and how they are or are not being handled.
Talking specifically about the meeting that you guys just had on Monday, April 6.
At that meeting, there was clear acknowledgement of how public records request, elections,
recorders office, procurement, operate together.
That part's understood, no problem.
What's still missing is that what actually happens when something goes wrong.
Right now, complaints are raised in this public comment form.
We can submit them, they're reviewed, but there's no clear consistent process
that ensures complaints are corrected and follow through to resolution.
That's the gap I've been trying to raise with you.
Steve, you said at the last meeting, no one has come to you to discuss a solution.
I've been trying since May 5th at 2023.
I'd love to talk to you about it.
Yesterday, I emailed you all a full 90 day corrected action plan along with the supporting
background.
The framework's there.
It simply needs to be considered and acted upon.
You have a process flow.
You have a formal corrected action.
And if you had pulled the run dot contract like I did, and you had seen there was no disaster recovery policy,
during a pandemic election, signed June 4th of 2020,
YouTube would be outraged as I was.
Please get corrected action plans on and upcoming agenda, so we can stop the systemic issues from repeating.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Amanda Monies.
Lisa Everett.
Yolanda.
La Deros.
Good morning, Chair.
Vice Chair and Supervisors.
My name is Amanda Monies.
I'm an elected member of the Central Arizona Water Conservation District.
But today I speak to you as a member and a resident of the Rio Verde Foothills.
I'm here and to represent the community and opposition of KCPA 26001 and Z26002.
And to formally submit a community petition of 1,214 signatures from residents of the Rio Verde Foothills
and surrounding communities, including many of those directly adjacent or bordering the proposed zoning area.
The clerk has copies for each of you of these petitions, including for the county manager and the county planner.
Our concerns are as follows.
Our community has already experienced a widely publicized water crisis.
That is she was not completely resolved.
Increasing density in an area without a reliable renewable water supply will increase dependence on groundwater and a base in the lacks meaningful recharge.
Second, this proposal is fundamentally incompatible with the existing community.
Current rule 43 zoning supports responsible growth in an area with low density desert equestrian living.
There are quest shifts to a high density zoning, including small lots and multi-family housing and it is not a transition.
As a complete change of land use, place into the middle of a rural desert community.
Third, this is not just a local issue, it has regional impacts.
The road emergency services and infrastructure in this area are shared across multiple surrounding communities.
Increase density here will directly impact traffic, response items and public safety while beyond the boundaries of this project.
The community is strongly opposed to these rezoning requests.
We ask that these concerns and the voices of 1,000 residents be taken seriously as is moved forward.
And we respectfully ask that you take the time to meet with representatives of the community before making any final decisions.
Lastly, we would like to thank the staff and the Planning and Development Department for the professionalism, patients and ongoing communication.
We understand that the very beginning of the process and we intend to stay engaged throughout.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Madam Clerk.
Lisa Everett, Yolanda Law Deros, and I'm sorry if I may pronounce that.
Shanty, gruffie is rabbi.
Ms. Everett, welcome.
Thank you.
I am here this morning to speak about an upcoming agenda item regarding project Bacara.
It is a data center that is scheduled for the West Valley in District 4.
I am strongly in support of this and I wanted to share a little bit with you of why I am.
First, many people don't realize how much we need data centers.
Our military depends on them, your medical records depend on them.
We Google something every day, our GPS, etc.
We need responsible building of data centers and that's exactly what project Bacara is doing.
They are providing their own energy source.
They're selling back power to APS on the wholesale market.
So it's going to provide power to the citizens of the West Valley, which we need with all of the growth that we're experiencing.
This project will also use reclaimed water, which is critical because as everyone in this room will tell you water is a concern.
So using the reclaimed water, kind of disperses their reasons for being against this project.
People will come in with the sky as falling scenarios, telling you there's chemicals, there's noise, there's all of these things.
But the reality is this, data centers are here to say, stay.
They are very popular right now to it's popular to be against them.
But the people who are against them are not digging into the facts.
And the fact is a data center in the West Valley is going to be needed mainly for the power.
But also, we have to keep up.
Our military depends on data centers and right now we're in a war.
Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Please come to the microphone and introduce yourself for the record.
Good morning, chair and members of the board.
My name is Yolanda Landeros and I live in Buckeye, Arizona.
I'm a mom, a grandmother, and I care deeply about the future of this country and the generations that come after us.
As an American, I believe are right to vote a sacred.
It is our birth, right, and it must be protected.
Arizona's elections are secure, trusted, and already working for voters like me.
That's why what's happening right now is so concerning.
Instead of protecting a system that works, we are seeing actions that create confusion, delay decisions, and make it hard for people to vote.
Here in Marko, but counting recorder just in heap is stalling voting maps and blocking communities from getting the polling locations they need.
That doesn't protect voters.
It puts them at risk of being left out.
When access is delayed and confusion spreads, it's everyday people like me who pay the price.
I am asking you to stand with voters and protect what is already working.
Ensure polling locations reflect the needs of our communities so everyone can vote no matter their zip code.
We should be making it easy for people to participate, not harder.
This country belongs to all of us, and we all deserve to have a voice.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Shanti Garpias, Rebi, Samuel, Versam, Juan de Lurk, and Margie Gomez.
Thank you.
Welcome, please introduce yourself for the record.
Good morning, Chair and members of the Board.
My name is Shanti Garpias Rebi.
I live in Mesa.
I'm a registered voter.
I work in 95, and I'm an everyday survivor of our economy.
I am here because I have a deep love for our state's beauty, our community, and its future.
And to that end, I am here to defend the importance of our elections.
Here, because when President Trump had signed the executive order to undermine male invoting, I was an utter disbelief.
I, like many of my loved ones, have voted by male because my job, like many others, do not allow the day off so that we can go to our polling locations to place our vote.
When I have gone in the past, the lines were so long, it would just take hours of my time.
So voting by male gave me essential time to do the research on the candidates and ballot measures so that I could make an informed decision well before election day and doing all this in the comfort of my own home.
To disrupt our election process. But looking at the survey released by the Center for the Future of Arizona on January 15, 26, it shows our core value for accuracy with 96% saying every vote counted and each are essential. With 69% saying votes should be easier and convenient for citizens to vote early by mail and election day.
Arizona doesn't need people like Justin heap or Mac influences. Who would limit the number of polling locations making it disproportionately harder for communities like my own and other marginalized groups to make and to make our voices heard because let's be real they do not want to hear what we have to say.
Our elections are secure, accurate and trusted by our residents. We deserve a system that reflects the needs of our communities where voting is accessible.
Thank you, Madam Park, Sam Vansler, Margie Gomez, Vivian Seraphin.
Thank you and please introduce yourself in the microphone for the record.
Madam Chair and members of the board. Thank you for this opportunity to speak. My name is Sam Wandler and I live in Gilbert.
I'm a husband, a father, a veteran and someone who cares deeply about the future of our state and my children's future.
I'm here because I believe our elections matter and our vote must be protected. I've been voting by mail for over 25 years starting when I joined the Navy in 1998.
It has been a reliable and trusted way for me to participate in our democracy. It gives me the time to research candidates and make informed decisions without feeling rushed.
That's why it's so concerned to see a system that has worked for decades now being questioned and disrupted.
Arizona's elections are secure, trusted and already working for voters like me, but recorded just in heat is undermining that trust.
He's creating confusion, delanded decisions and making people question the system that works.
We need the polling locations map finalize, delays like this don't protect voters, they discourage participation and it makes it harder for people to do their civic duty.
I've already proven my eligibility to vote, voters should not have to jump through new hoops just to have their voices heard.
The only time I've ever questioned the security of our elections was when politicians and their supporters tried to overturn legitimate votes are Jerry Mander maps.
That's the real threat. Not a system that has worked for decades. I'm asking the board to stand up for voters in sure access and protect the integrity of our elections.
Because elections only matter when all of us can participate. Thank you.
Thank you, madam clerk. Margie Gomez. Excuse me. Margie Gomez Vivian Seraphin Pamela Cunningham.
Thank you. Please introduce yourself for the record.
Hello, my name is Margie Gomez. I vote by mail every time and without it, my vote would be jeopardized.
Good morning, chair and members of the board. We have trusted the board of supervisors to keep election safe, insecure and accessible and protecting people's ability to vote up to now.
We are critical of the board's in action to defend our voting or proven voting process. Please finally stand up against Justin heep and the radical mega agenda.
It would hurt the credibility of the board to turn over its responsibility to someone who is suing the board to have complete control while refusing to negotiate.
We do not want the board to change processes based on false conspiracy theories to try to justify voter suppression. We want to make it easier to vote by having more voting locations.
Radical mega republicans on the other hand want to have complete control to disenfranchise and so chaos and confusion.
We are fighting for increased not less transparency, a formalized voting agreement now to maintain the current voting responsibilities and not change because of lawsuits.
Do not give in to any demands. My experience voting over the years has improved over time. I always vote by mail to secure to make sure my ballot is counted in case something comes up including having to respond to a work emergency. Thank you.
Madam Kirk Vivian Seraphin Pamela Cunningham Juan Mendes.
Welcome please introduce yourself for the record.
Good morning chair and members of the board. My name is Vivian Setafine and I am a proud first generation Mexican woman who cares deeply about her community.
I am here today in an attempt to galvanize the board into doing what's right for the communities that shape two I am and make this date great.
As County recorded just in heat disrupts our election system that has been proven secure for years and extremely concerned about those who will disenfranchise.
He is casting doubt and creating chaos in hopes of discouraging those who see through his dishonesty from voting.
That is un-American. I worry about the single parents who cannot afford to take time off work to direct to a polling location nowhere near their vicinity.
I worry about those already struggling just to survive in this economy and don't have the resources to access the polls.
I worry about our elderly neighbors or people with disabilities who rely on mail and ballots and need plenty of time to create a voting plan.
I worry about our fellow black, brown, indigenous and marginalized neighbors who will be left to navigate the mess created by just in heat and enabled by you.
The people need transparency. The people need consistency. We, the people need a free and fair election.
Finalize the polling locations map and stop drug maga agenda from spoiling our state's democracy.
Empower us to use our voices rather than discouraging them.
The Arizona we deserve is one with the Board of Supervisors who stands up when the sanctity of the elections tied to them is threatened.
Do not let the actions of one man smear your name. Thank you.
Thank you.
Pamela Cunningham, Juan Mendez, Diane Barker.
Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the name for the record.
Pamela Cunningham, Madam Chair, Board members.
As I stayed in my name is Pamela Cunningham and I'm from Scottsdale.
Arizona has a long history of safe and secure elections as proven with both the 2020 and 2024 elections along with prior and subsequent elections.
Justin heaps attempts to sow doubt and discord regarding Arizona's elections through his actions should not be tolerated or allowed.
Heap and magas chaos can, sorry, conspiracy theories and threats to the voting rights of the people of Maricopa County and our democracy should be disregarded by the Board of Supervisors.
The Board of Supervisors should not pay to Justin's heaps out Registimans.
Rather the Board of Supervisors and their attorneys should use the current litigation to ensure that a fair shared services agreement is entered into.
And that Justin heaps as can recorder does not interfere in Arizona's elections.
And instead does his job in a fair, competent and just manner in compliance and with both state and federal election laws and statutes.
Additionally, the Board of Supervisors need to finalize the polling locations map so that voters have time to implement a voting plan where the voting in person on election day early voting or dropping off a ballot.
Delaying his process disproportionately affects our brown, black, indigenous and other marginalized communities within the Maricopa County.
Furthermore, more accessible voting sites need to be established to allow those with disabilities to exercise their constitutional rights.
People have even tried to get ice at the polls.
I should never be present at polling locations and their presence is unnecessary and would have a chilling effect upon voters and serve to intimidate eligible voters from exercise in their constitutional right to them.
I requested the Board of Supervisors stand up for our elections and mine other voters voting rights that are enshrined in the Constitution and not allowed Justin heaps and MAGA to improperly interfere in Arizona's elections.
Thank you.
Madam Chair, I pulled Diane Barker.
I understand she left.
I will call on the next three.
Juan Mendes.
Tristan Miller.
Viral Farmsworth.
Senator.
Good morning chair members of the Board.
Juan Mendes from Tempe.
I stand before you again still hoping for collaboration but the community and I are past the point of frustration with all the inaction.
We need to know who is to blame for America becoming not having finalized and publicized share our upcoming primary polling locations.
As a supervisor, Guadalu, pointed out in Monday's informal meeting, we cannot afford to hide behind objective criteria while actively creating voting deserts in our West Valley and South Phoenix communities.
While you debate the fine print of an IT budget and heap cries about the technicalities of the shared service agreements that clock is ticking.
Do not allow this administrative power struggle to turn into a voter access crisis.
You're supposed to be better than this.
Other counties like Yavipai and Mojavey have already given their citizens a voting roadmap, yet Maricopa remains paralyzed.
How long until a failure to act becomes an active obstruction on our work to get the vote out.
The July primaries around the corner with early ballots scheduled to be mailed out in June.
I should be helping our people make a plan to vote.
Instead, we're stuck waiting for everyone to agree on a spreadsheet, creating an unprofessional time crunch that makes it almost logistically impossible for us to activate, educate and organize our community.
But before we get too far, we're going to need a detailed explanation on the math and the criteria that the reporter heap and you all as the supervisors are using to select the vote centers.
We need to explain the justification for his current proposal.
If I heard correctly on Monday, heap is planning for seven far east of early vote centers to be open for 28 days before the election versus one west side of the voting location center in Levine to be open for only 12 days.
Make that make sense.
Is he planning based on some historical voting patterns that we all know about?
Or is he planning for the voters he wants to show up for his maga Republican candidates?
As I end, please do not let technical disputes disenfranchise us.
Protect our voters, finalize the early voting sites now, and give us a transparency we deserve.
I'm ready to work with you.
Thank you.
Madam Clerk.
Tristan Miller.
Viral Farmsworth.
Louis Margarza.
Good morning chair and members of the board.
My name is Tristan Miller and I'm grateful for my time to speak today.
I'm from Pensacola, Florida, and moved Arizona in 2011.
Voting in America is one of the most important duties we have as citizens, but it was not always an equal right for everyone.
Let's not repeat history and go backwards.
I'm here today because of the injustices going on in our country and in our state that are not being addressed.
People shouldn't have to fight just to have their voices heard.
Our elections have already been trustworthy in the past years, but just in heap and his maga agenda are deliberately sabotaging the system that makes our democracy.
Arizona is a face for the consequences of the fabricated chaos, and yet the board has yet to come through for us.
If you allow just and heap to dismant our elections, the voters like me will suffer the consequences.
My neighbors will suffer the consequences, black, brown, indigenous, and marginalized communities will be left with even less resources to have a say in a system that is already not built for them.
Is that what you want?
Why do we not have a finalized polling location in the map yet when other counties are ready to do?
Everyone in our great state deserves it right through a fair election.
We deserve a board that will choose our democracy over Trump's agenda.
My mother, my father, my neighbors, they all deserve a voice.
I'm standing before you to ask for a prompt polling locations map, a saying who governs our state and for everyone to feel a power that comes with the yielding their ballot.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Madam Clerk.
Verl Farmsworth, Louis Margarza, Lori Peroni.
Please state your name for the record.
Verl Farmsworth.
Thank you for the privilege to be able to come and address you today.
I am concerned that the board is yet to act upon moving back to the Recorder's Office, the duties that were present there for years upon years elections upon elections.
You as the board do not have the ability individually or collectively to supervise the elements that you moved or the previous board moved, which you have sanctioned to stay in place.
You do not have the ability to supervise and provide transparency, accountability, and integrity collectively unless each of you all five are present for every meeting.
Every training, every oversight, every directed that is given to the election department, unless you are collectively there.
It becomes a partisan issue for each of you then to, while I trust the fellow board members for their conclusions.
That is not transparency board.
Transparency is to give the Recorder his duty that he was due the elected to do and hold him accountable.
That is the vote that is what everybody is expressing.
Everybody wants their vote to be accounted for the way that they submitted it.
And that is what you do. You hold the individual accountable. Collectively, you cannot do that.
You cannot collectively vote to approve.
Your actions without it creating a cloud that is not transparency for the voters of Maricopa County. Please return to the
Recorders Office for duties that he was elected to do. Thank you.
Madam Clerk, Louis Margarza, Lori Baroney, Andrew Tile.
Before you start my time, a Diane Baker did leave a ten second note for me to read.
And if I may, because earlier you allowed, it's the second time it has started.
The people who make concern, Diane Baker, you are a citizen taxpayer, advocates for public forms to be open and really be excused.
Or particularly what?
You may be excused unless you would please participate yourself.
I am. This is part of my speech now for persons of disabilities.
And I am disabled in that regard.
For these, the Luther group brought out their alternons today, and they have a skull, the satanic belief that they have.
I find it very offensive when they in parent form state that the black brown and indigenous people will be unable to handle their voting duties.
So in other words, all the black brown and indigenous people in the military are stupid idiots.
Is that what I am hearing here?
Everybody on staff that is black brown and indigenous is an idiot.
These people right here, if you have anything to do with it, it will come down raining on you.
On top of that, we are under a department of war manual.
Your phone slips on you 25, 7, be careful.
And the curly mo and Larry, who got me last the last meeting and decided to get on my case regarding a motion I made,
which is going to be a motion I asked about my inverse of the audience and about the board are over the top.
You are excused from the meeting room.
Madam clerk, next up, Lori Baroni, Andrew Ty, Joe Hoff.
Wow.
Okay, so board.
I'd like to again note that under Arizona open.
Open meeting laws.
As reflected in your agenda, board members may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the board.
With that in mind, I'm offering the following as direct criticism.
Public speakers limited to two minutes and our minutes are interrupted.
Very quickly, if perceived be off topic.
Sometimes with seconds within seconds, I myself was interrupted by the chair three times in the last meeting that I was at.
Within the first 25 seconds of my public comment, you didn't even acknowledge what I was going to say.
That's called viewpoint discrimination and guess what?
That's unconstitutional.
Same thing you just did.
That is an infraction against my free speech in my first amendment, right?
In case you didn't know, first amendment is free speech.
This is my free speech time.
I was thrown out and for an unconstitutional restriction of my first amendment for those of you who are reminder that is my free speech.
However, board members, particularly during budget discussions recently, have expanded the time to go off topic without similar interruption.
From a public standpoint, this appears to be unequal application of rules.
Because of my pushback, I was ejected from the room.
And when asked where I was removed, the response from Mr. Galvin was profanity.
I did not say anything profane to cause myself to be ejected.
And that was completely untrue.
And we might just call that what it is, it's called a lie.
So if we can't expect the truth from you, Mr. Galvin and the board, why should we believe anything that you say?
Chair McGee, you allowed that violation to happen and shame on you as well.
So I'm going and asking this in a way that allows the response,
Madam Clerk, next up Andrew Ty, Joe Hoff, Veronica Korkerin.
Good morning.
My name is Andy Ty and Steve.
I saw a short video on you yesterday.
It was really good about how people come to this meeting.
Sometimes they're upset and angry.
I know that you guys catch a lot of flack.
I'm also on the other side of that because this is only my fourth meeting.
And as a retired realtor, I find the fraud that's involved in the foreclosure.
The auction sales is atrocious.
I also handed these out.
So I don't know if you have this form you've seen it before.
And it's kind of odd when you really look at it.
There's, you know, 22 homes on it.
There's only one where in the column where it says, you know,
the balance in that account is zero.
And that means that that homeowner, after their foreclosure,
and their equity was stolen from the home.
By the banks, they got that money back.
So that's less than 5% of the people are getting their money back.
And the only reason that they, it's so low is that they've never,
it's never been disclosed to them about this.
So I would really like to reach out with two of you
and see if we could set up a meeting and talk about this.
This has been going on for probably 25 years.
I've been a realtor for 44 years and never heard the term,
excess funds, excess proceeds, or overages.
I've worked for banks, I've foreclosed on homes.
So this is a tremendous amount of money,
and they're taking it from the most vulnerable people.
You get thrown out on the street after foreclosure.
Look at the money there that it would change their lives.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Madam Clerk, Joe Hop, Veronica Corkeron, Roger Made.
Hello again.
I would like to ask about ballot handling and chain of custody.
Arizona has procedures for post-election audits and tabulation,
but the public still needs clear visibility
into how ballots move through the system.
Can the public easily access documentation that shows
where ballots are at each stage custody?
Be who is responsible for them?
Custody.
And see how they are secured and transferred?
That's custody also.
Chain of custody is one of the most critical parts of election integrity.
If the public cannot clearly follow that process,
confidence will continue to decline.
Transparency in handling ballots is just as important as counting them.
And if you all will allow Justin Heeb to continue doing the job he's doing,
we'll get there.
Thank you.
Madam Clerk.
Veronica Corkeron, Roger Made, Leslie Shepherd.
Thank you.
Please pay tribute to the record.
Veronica Corkeron.
It's funny every time I try to sign up to speak online.
I'm rejected because I'm not disabled.
But level of emotional and mental disability presented here is
a rampant when evil is called good and good evil.
These days evil is celebrated and good and God is being marked.
Orange man bad king and maga calling for common sense is extremism.
Mr. Gallardo, you would have said with me last time when I call
a people who allow sexual abuse of minor children,
a rotten human beings.
You're entitled to your opinion, sir.
But minor sexual abuse is not negotiable.
For the same reason refused to negotiate with a drunk.
I was also criticized for leaving in the last meeting,
as soon as I gave my public comment.
First of all, sir, I would rather do it online.
And I would rather have it three minutes.
I came here on my dime, my time.
And last I checked, you guys are working for us.
And for us to not giving your grievances will be irresponsible.
I thought you democratic hate kings.
Democrats are now paying money for no king protest,
taking down the last man standing for the American middle class.
Let us be clear, our president is saving American middle class fighting
the British imperial financial system that before 250 years ago.
President Trump is fighting real Nazi who hate America on both sides of the aisle.
Academia, media, people are misled.
Please try to see the bigger picture.
And let the mind remind you that our election process has been
hijacked any drop.
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Next up, Roger May, Leslie Shepard and last speaker, Tom Arnold.
My name is Roger May, but when you guys all campaigned,
he said things like, I'll listen to your interests.
I'm here for you.
I'll be your public servant.
And then you won the race.
You got elected.
You probably thought, these people are pretty wise.
They elected me.
These are smart people.
I would have hoped that the first meeting you guys got together
and would have had focused on how do we glean from our people's wisdom.
In Proverbs, chapter 11, 16 and 24,
it is stated over and over about how good outcomes are obtained by the wisdom
and the counsel of many.
If you want the wisdom of your people, like you said,
here's a starting place.
First, make it convenient for your people.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics shows 87% of the working men and women
are stuck at their jobs between eight and five,
Monday through Friday.
So, once you hold this public meeting on Saturday or in the evenings,
too, once you prove the webinar access to all,
not just the board or the elite view.
Three, once you stop restricting public dialogue
on nearly 80% of the agenda items.
Instead, once you ask the people if they want to speak on any
or all the agenda items for,
once you schedule the public comment time at the beginning of the meeting.
Sometimes we wait here for three hours to speak for two minutes.
People these two are going to speak on those two.
That would have been a total of six for driving for three hours.
Once you schedule the dog presentation after the public comment,
your dogs come before your people.
How about people before dogs?
Once you budget some funds to advertise to the people
that you are eager to hear from the people at these.
Madam Clerk, Leslie Shepherd and Tom Arnold.
Ms. Shepherd.
Okay.
The time started, I hadn't started talking yet.
Ms. Shepherd, you've taken away 15 of my seconds.
I will take away a minute and 45 seconds.
Please proceed.
It's my public comment and you stole from me.
So I just want to say that I'm really happy that people are coming here
to talk about the elections with you because that's what we're supposed to do.
Regardless of what your opinion is about the elections.
Because that's our job to come here and do.
And I don't care what your opinion is regarding the just in heaps situation,
one way or the other.
The bottom line is that is our job to come here and do that.
I'm here to talk to you about protection of children,
which obviously Cape Rolfing McGee feels like that.
That's not even worth any time and threatens again to kick me out
because she's abusing her position of responsibility for the record
enforcement of revelant should be reasonable and consistent.
It erupting based on a single phrase does not allow meaningful opportunity
to speak.
I respectfully request that you stop interrupting this Cape Rolfing McGee.
So on page 202 to 208,
I've let you guys know that in these sexually charged books that are for the minors
teaching children how to have sex with one another.
I asked a question earlier that was completely dismissing
and it was completely relevant because it was talking about the overall,
excuse me, the overall personnel.
That's what that agenda item was for the library district.
And I asked a very legitimate question.
That was dismissed. I've gotten up here and I've had my time taken away and I'm threatened again to be kicked out.
I mean, I'm sitting here fighting for children and for you guys to identify that the laws are being violated for the children
and that actually harms them when they grow up. They think it's normal. We're allowing this to be normalized. You play that role.
Thank you, Madam Clerk.
Last speaker, Tom Arnold.
Tom Arnold?
Florida and Mississippi are among four Republican controlled states, along with South Dakota and Utah, that have enacted proof of citizenship measures this year.
These measures reflect election integrity reforms demanded by President Donald J. Trump.
Donald J. Trump, such as requiring a birth certificate, naturalization certificate or passport.
President Trump has also issued an executive order to reform mail-in ballot voting, which is facing obstruction
from Democrat lawmakers left-wing extremist and liberal judges.
Are they worried about losing their votes from illegal aliens?
Just question. If these four states can pass this legislation on requiring voter ID, Arizona can too.
Each of us need to write to our senator, whether it's Kelly or Gallego,
and ask, did you vote to pass the Save America Act?
If no, please explain what part of it is not in the best interest of putting America first.
We need to remind them that they are elected by us, hopefully, to carry out our will.
Our will is to place America first, this having the same America Act passed.
Board members, if you are in agreement with the Save America Act, when you go out to your group meetings and meet with large number of people,
please talk about this, you can reach more people than we can as individuals.
And Mr. Gallardo, last meeting when I asked the board members, if they had stood in the state of the Union address, you said no.
I would like to find out if you're an agreement with the Save America Act.
Thank you.
That concludes public comment.
Correct, Madam Clerk.
Madam Chair, there are no other speakers.
We will proceed to supervisor, summary of current comment, current events, and I will start with supervisor Galvan.
Madam Chair, thank you very much for running a very good meeting. Once again, I have nothing to add. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, sir. Supervisor Gallardo.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll make this real quick. I know it's been a long meeting.
And to the gentleman that came up earlier, we'll be in touch. I don't know much about it, but I'm interested in hearing what you have to say.
If it's something we can do from a county perspective or looking to, I don't know if it's statutory or whatever, but we'll find out more.
We'll sit on the talk. Thank you for coming.
Excuse me, sir.
Preja, we'll talk.
And to some of our guests, our first time guests that have came to our board meeting to express our concerns on elections.
I look forward to sitting down talking.
I thought once so here, there he is.
One, I'll be in touch with one. We'll sit down.
I think it's really important for folks who really can have a true understanding.
So our, our elections are created statutorily. There are some some statutory requirements under the Recorders office.
And there's, there's a whole slew of requirements under the Board of Supervisors.
I think it's really important to understand who's responsible for what and the purpose of the shared service agreement.
I'd love to sit down talk to you all about that.
And continue to work with you all. I think your input, community input, is critical on everything.
You know, we have folks on the other side here that I don't necessarily agree by totally respect their viewpoints on some of the issues until they start calling as names.
But nonetheless, I respect their opinions for coming down as well as you also.
Thank you for coming down. We'll talk more.
And Madam Chair, just real quickly looking forward to this weekend.
We have in tallest in the, the, will be days. They call it will be I have no idea where the came up the name will be days.
It is their founders day celebration. It is a huge event there at Veterans Park.
The whole town comes out. It's just one of those events that I just love being at.
So that will be our time on Saturday.
Friday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. It's a three day weekend for us.
But it's that time of the year where all the community events are happening is beautiful. The weather is beautiful.
We know the summer time is coming. So I know all of us are headed outside at some of them or another during the weekend.
So with that, Madam Chair, thank you for a wonderful, well run meeting.
Thank you, Supervisor Gallardo, Supervisor Stewart.
Thank you, Madam Chair. And you know, this is what we have these meetings and folks get to come speak to us.
Actually, I appreciate it. It's one of the few things that happen in this nation that I think is a good thing, right?
When your community can address their grievances or complaints or even sometimes we occasionally get some praise.
But I appreciate that and I appreciate everybody that comes down and shares a thoughts and feelings.
It's a good thing about a republic. You know, we've been out in the community as we always are in district one.
We attended a not my kid event, which is a organization, a trusted organization that helps with mental health and substance abuse with teens.
It gives parents the tools that they need to help their kids get through a tough time in their life.
We know that mental health is an issue with our teens right now. And so I encourage you to go to not my kid.org and learn more about that and maybe you can get involved.
It's an incredible organization.
I also want to thank Vice Chair Lesco. She held a, she organized a meeting at the state capital for us to meet with our legislators from both sides of the aisle to talk about local independence, right?
Local control and how important it is for the government closest to our community to be able to support their community and work with them.
And not so basically let us see what we do, they do what they do, and it was a great meeting. So thank you for that supervisor.
Attendant the Gilbert State of the town, where that town is booming, attended that with Mayor Anderson and Council.
But I think the great thing about that is the community members that come out to take part in that.
They're doing great things in Gilbert.
We attended the grand opening. And I was thank you Madam Chair for allowing me to speak at the new Maricopa County Department of Public Health.
The staff there is incredible. We had a ribbon cutting.
And this location will bring together multiple services like WIC, vital record, vital records, immunizations, health screening, testing treatment service, all in a consolidated location.
We like to talk about meeting the customer, where they are, and this particular location of Mesa just does that. And it's a state of the art place.
And then I had the fortunate time to spend with Mayor Cori Woods last week.
And we had a nice lunch and downtown.
It's happy they've done some great things on Mill Avenue.
But tempies and good hands with Mayor Woods and Council.
And thank you very much, Chair, for the time.
Thank you, supervisor Stewart, vice chair, let's go.
Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, I want to thank everybody that came here today to come speak to us.
I appreciate it. I also greatly appreciate the staff.
We always have, you know, seems like we always have complicated issues.
And so I think they do have really good job and I applaud them.
I want to thank all of the veterans and active duty military.
I got had the great honor to be invited to the hundredth anniversary of the veterans of foreign war.
Sandy Corpose number 1433.
They've been there in Glendale for 100 years.
And they serve not only veterans and help veterans, but also active duty military.
They do a great job.
And I was really honored that I was able to go there and speak.
I also got to go to the Sun City Pasi Open House for those of you that don't know.
The Sun City has volunteers and they help the community.
They go out with their cars. They look like sheriff cars, but they're not sheriff cars.
They're posse cars.
And they help with road control, traffic, that type of thing.
But they also check in on people that are gone on vacation to make sure that their house is okay.
And there's not a flood in that type of thing.
And as supervisor Stewart said, I host a legislative luncheon down at the state capital.
And I was honored to have our chair Mrs. Brophy McGee there.
And also Mr. Stewart joined in also a number of legislators.
And we talked about all kinds of issues.
But as these two can attest, I just kept telling our state legislators don't mess with the county.
And which is interesting because I used to be in the state legislature.
And I used to mess with the county in the city.
And now I'm in this different building.
I'm like hands off at the county.
Anyway, and then yesterday I got to go to Glencroft a center for modern aging.
It's an assisted living center for senior citizens.
And got to speak to a great group of senior citizens that are still active.
And was happy to do so.
Thank you.
Madam County manager.
Nothing today.
Thank you chair.
Thank you very much.
I wanted to.
So I'm on legislative policy committee for CSA.
And two of the members of that group that meets every Friday.
I think my colleagues from the legislature would recognize Frank Cantonore from Cochise County.
Sunny Borelli from Mojave County.
And if I had a nickel for every time they said, I wish I had known this in the legislature.
I picked on county so much and they're really mad because we're getting picked on.
So the light eventually goes on.
But even for even for the.
But I won't call them eerie deemables.
But that's what they called me.
Now we're good friends.
I wanted to thank Scott Jarrett and his team.
I got to participate in a mock election.
But the election volunteers.
It was really fun.
I got to role play a voter who showed up with my early ballot wanting to vote it.
But I didn't bring my ID.
And I couldn't bully my way through.
Guy was so nice.
I said I can't be grumpy.
He's too nice.
But they were role playing all these different situations for what can happen.
And it had a polling place.
And I was very, very impressed.
I Helen Purcell was there.
So that's always fun.
To I was very impressed.
I was very happy to be a part of that.
When I was on the school board I used to walk into a school.
And the energy was always unique.
And then depending on the classroom you went into the energy was unique.
Because things were happening.
I remember one classroom I went in and it was nothing was happening.
I was very sad.
But most of the time there's a pop.
Things are happening.
So walking into that elections room and the energy just popped.
People were excited to be there.
They were excited to participate.
They were very dedicated to ensuring that people got to vote.
And everybody, you know, were able to present their ballot.
And it was led by Mr. Jarrett, who also despite his auditor background had some real energy.
Going, this is his passion.
This is what he loves to do.
And it was really an honor and a privilege.
So I also wanted to thank, we had some new participants today.
And I wanted to thank the new participants.
We had some regular participants.
A couple of whom recognized different views, different perspectives.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you for presenting those views.
Thank you for presenting those perspectives.
And I have a microphone.
I'm a politician.
But I kind of know when to be quiet.
It's very tempting.
But with all of that being said, thank you again,
to staff for your participation here.
And with no further business before the board, this meeting is adjourned.
Thank you.