1 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:08,680 Please stand for the pledge. 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:19,680 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:26,910 republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,910 justice for all. [clears throat] 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:39,200 Mar County Commission meeting Tuesday, September 8th, 2026 6 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:44,079 12:30. We start out with public forum forum in accordance with Marian County, 7 00:00:42,239 --> 00:00:49,120 Kansas public forum policy. Pre-registration is required. Please 8 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:54,320 limit talk topics to county commission business. Follow any times time limits 9 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:58,800 set by the board and address your concerns in a courteous manner. 10 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Discussion of specific identified personnel privileged or confidential 11 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:05,000 matters will not be allowed. 12 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,960 Tom Britain real large 13 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,875 did try to get a hold of me. Well, they didn't do a very good job because I 14 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:25,600 didn't I didn't uh [clears throat] say anything. I have 35 15 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:33,040 million reasons why I would want to talk to these people. And uh I didn't take 16 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:37,920 any of their money, dirty money. Uh and so uh 17 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:42,000 it's not them that's that's the I have an issue with it's the county. It's the 18 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:47,119 it's the the uh 19 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:52,399 it's the protest petition. It's the uh rightway 20 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:57,840 rightway agreement. uh it's the uh authority and it's also uh uh the cuts 21 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:03,600 that's expired. And [clears throat] so one thing uh I'd 22 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:08,479 like to talk about too is is is this u investigator you guys are going to get 23 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:14,720 now take careful be careful about this. Um, back a few 24 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,840 years ago when when we started, they uh you hired a consultant consultant 25 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:23,520 [clears throat] Patrick Hoffman from Great Bend and he 26 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,000 uh he was going to negotiate with your 27 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:33,920 pilot agreement. So he came here and you guys in uh and actually so 28 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:38,720 so Pat Pstring who is the president of of 29 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:44,080 Expedition Win, he met with this guy that you hired 30 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:49,360 the weekend before he came here. And then so you guys listened to him and and 31 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:55,760 uh took instead of uh he he gave his speech and his these uh recommendations 32 00:02:52,640 --> 00:03:02,640 and stuff as for this and and uh that's why you got an eighth of the property 33 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:07,360 tax that that you guys uh uh well you don't ask them for too much because then 34 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:12,720 they won't build this wonderful project. And the other one was the uh pro the uh 35 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:18,560 decommissioning agreement which uh 36 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:23,519 which is not a it's a it's not even a bond. It's it's a letter of credit with 37 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:32,080 with this company Nordia in uh in Denmark which which was uh 38 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:39,200 indicted for uh $3.8 8 million billion dollar the B uh for for money 39 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:43,599 laundering. This is who you've got your your uh decommissioning agreement with. 40 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:48,239 So when you're looking to find this investigator, I hope you get somebody 41 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:53,760 that that's going to be fair and and and look into it um and and look into it 42 00:03:52,000 --> 00:04:00,560 well. And so, uh, I guess as far as the thing 43 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:06,937 about paying for it, the taxpayer money, well, several years ago, I think you 44 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:13,280 might remember that the county uh [clears throat] the the county uh 45 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:19,600 prosecuted me for basically coming to a commissioner's meeting. Now, that was 46 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:25,040 that was uh dismissed in court with prejudice. 47 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:33,040 And uh I'm kind of wondering how much uh taxpayer dollars was was used to to 48 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:39,960 uh prosecute an innocent citizen and uh were you worried about that 49 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,960 taxpayer money yet? Thank you. 50 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:48,080 » Get out of here. >> Anybody else? Anyone online? 51 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,040 » I'd like to make a comment. >> Okay. 52 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:55,120 Um, I normally would not do this, but I'd 53 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:59,040 like to address some of the comments made by Dave Mueller before last week's 54 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,240 commission meeting. A couple weeks ago, two private citizens 55 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,039 comment about issues with county officials. And several members in this 56 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,320 room took offense to the point that they changed the rules to limit their First 57 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Amendment right to redress their government through free speech. Yet, no 58 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:19,520 such protection was given to those members of the public when Mr. Mueller 59 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:24,320 called them out for expressing their concerns. In fact, Mr. Mueller demanded 60 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:28,240 that we as a commission further restrict restrict the public's right of free 61 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:33,120 speech by limiting their ability to address this board. Seems to me there's 62 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:38,080 a double standard and that only speech that we don't agree with gets censored. 63 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:43,360 Mr. Mueller implied a concerted attack on planning and zoning at last me last 64 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:48,720 month's meeting. Since when do questions equal an attack? Unless those questions 65 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:53,199 don't want to be answered, I'd like to remind this board what the state 66 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:58,160 statutes describe as the duties of the planning and zoning commission. 67 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:01,360 This board statutoily reviews all applications that require exceptions to 68 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,360 the county planning and zoning regulations to see if those exceptions 69 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:09,520 are in the best interest of Marian County. Not because it is a fair thing 70 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:14,800 to do, but because it's the right thing to do. In order for that board to 71 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:19,520 effectively protect all of Marian County as well as allowing exceptions to the 72 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:23,919 current regulations, it is imperative that they review all aspects of the 73 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:30,080 proposal as well as how those proposals deviate from existing regulations. 74 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:33,919 Further, if if members of that commission are not allowed to hear all 75 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:39,039 the facts of the case, they cannot f fulfill their legal ob obligation. I 76 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:43,280 would contend that attempting to thwart those questions and or failure to 77 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:50,160 disclose all the facts of the case is the actual attack on the process and the 78 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:56,680 duty of that board in general. And all that is spelled out in KSA 79 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,680 19-2960 80 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:09,639 um which states that their legal duty is to get all the facts 81 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:09,639 Thank you. 82 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:18,479 » Okay, close public forum. Move on to agenda approval. [snorts] Any additions 83 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:24,840 or corrections or >> Yeah, I'd like to add an executive for 84 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,840 contract negotiations. 85 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Anything else? Like to make a motion approve the 86 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,639 agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve as 87 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:45,840 amended. >> Second. 88 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:51,440 » Okay. Moved by Commissioner Durk, second by Commissioner Holl. Any other 89 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,000 discussion? If not, all in favor? >> I 90 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:59,960 5. >> Five. He's there. You're there, right? 91 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,960 » I'm here. 92 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:09,639 » Okay. Administrative. >> Okay. 93 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,639 First we have some change orders. 94 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,580 » [clears throat] 95 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:46,200 » I don't know. I'll just take shift. 96 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:50,519 Those 97 00:08:55,279 --> 00:09:01,959 were in your packet that you didn't see. They'd be on the back side of that. 98 00:09:35,096 --> 00:09:41,720 » [snorts] >> Okay, we have early checks in the amount 99 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:41,720 of $29,3910. 100 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:46,760 Any questions 101 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,200 on that? >> Approve. 102 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:56,800 » Go ahead. >> Motion to approve. 103 00:09:54,959 --> 00:10:00,240 » Oh, I had a question. >> Oh, 104 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:05,760 » that are we waiting on cost share funds back from the stream bank stabilization? 105 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,120 » Those come as a reimbursement. So, we pay it and then um 106 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,760 » we're paying it out of capital improvement so that it doesn't affect 107 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:17,600 the run bridge budget and then we put we'll put the reimbursement in that same 108 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:19,839 fund so it's easy to see where it >> okay 109 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,519 » how it was paid and then reimbursed. We won't receive 100% [clears throat] 110 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:25,920 reimbursement. >> Right. 111 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:30,480 » Any other questions? Jonah, you got a motion? 112 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:37,079 » Yes, sir. [clears throat] >> Okay. Motion made to approve the 113 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,079 warrants amount of 209,30930910. 114 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,839 » Seconded by Commissioner Dirks. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor? 115 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,320 » I >> I 116 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:54,920 apologize the minutes did not get into the packet. So, I will just add those to 117 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,920 next week if that's okay with you guys. 118 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,839 » Perfect. >> Okay. In your packet, you had my report 119 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:05,399 from uh dated September 4th. Do does anybody have questions? 120 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:13,680 » This eye works. Um when this was brought to us a couple 121 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:17,440 months ago, it was the next greatest thing and [snorts] 122 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:23,680 it was going to save us a lot of money and it seems like every couple weeks 123 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,839 we're paying more money for this. We need another piece of it, it looks like, 124 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:33,079 in order to make it work, right? Correct. 125 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,079 » Um, I guess my my question is 126 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,959 could this [clears throat] company identify all our needs at the at the 127 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:50,200 outset? Department staff did believe that they 128 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,200 had all of the information. Um 129 00:11:50,720 --> 00:12:01,519 just an update on that statement on the um the maps 130 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:07,120 that I think that staff uh through some persistent effort has been able to get 131 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:11,440 the shape files from our current vendor. Um they weren't releasing them but I 132 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:14,480 think now they have and so that we shouldn't have to get that map layer but 133 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,240 I need to confirm that. >> Okay. So 134 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,560 » in the long run, uh, Commissioner Dirks, it'll still be much less expensive. 135 00:12:20,158 --> 00:12:23,680 [clears throat] >> This was just another $10,000. 136 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,760 And >> Right. 137 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:29,760 » And I just wonder what's going to be two weeks from now. What what what the next 138 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,279 layer is going to be and what [snorts] >> um 139 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:39,040 » yeah, that has been a source of frustration, but we're still well under 140 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:43,519 the previous program's cost, but I believe that that will not be a cost 141 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:47,279 now. that um I was just trying to kind of keep you all in the loop, but I think 142 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,920 that we are going to be able to bypass that. 143 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:52,959 » Okay, >> any other questions? 144 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:57,680 » We appreciate you staying on top of that because you know when we when we approve 145 00:12:55,279 --> 00:13:00,399 an amount, I think most the commission thinks that's what it's going to be, but 146 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,920 » right >> with technology, who knows? 147 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,959 » Anything else, Tina? Um, no. I just want making sure I didn't have any other 148 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,240 questions about my report. >> Okay. 149 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:21,560 » The mid-continent restoration. >> How was that? 150 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:29,360 » How was >> How's that going? Are they about done or 151 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:34,160 » um They didn't see anybody working today. So, 152 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:38,240 » they were here. They were here today um working. They're I think they're making 153 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:42,000 good progress. They have um I don't know. I've took a few pictures of them 154 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:47,120 like way up high on that tall chimney working. Um, so they've they've been at 155 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:51,920 it. They've also got the entryways on the north side, the interior entryways 156 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:55,839 where we were having moisture. Um, previously that moisture has been taken 157 00:13:53,680 --> 00:14:02,079 care of and then they were repairing the inside which was part of their contract 158 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:06,560 that was approved last um the last time we approved something for 159 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:10,880 them. But I haven't talked to Kevin today, so I don't know. the time frame 160 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:14,959 of when they'll be complete, but I would expect probably by the end of next week. 161 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:19,920 » Is there some work >> or this week excite 162 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:26,120 where that's kind of dark up there that I don't think ever really got cleaned? 163 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 » Um, 164 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:34,480 so on the south side we had moisture intrusion, 165 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:38,639 » right? And then we had some uh so Hutton came and they took care of the moisture 166 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:44,399 intrusion because Midcontinent wasn't able to get to it right away. And so the 167 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:49,839 what they did was they had to fill in mortar and around the window and in the 168 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:55,760 cracks. >> Okay. And I believe that that corner, 169 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:59,920 that indentation should be 170 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:05,120 the way that it was when we did the north side. 171 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:09,519 The the indentation part was included with the north. So I think that that 172 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:15,040 will be included when we do the south face. 173 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:19,040 » But I'd have to review that that scope of work again. It's been quite a few 174 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,399 months since that was approved for the for the east side. 175 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:27,760 » So, >> um, one one other question. Couple 176 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:32,720 months ago after this storm, we were we were waiting on damage 177 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:37,120 assessments from KPM. What where are we at in that process? Has they gotten 178 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:43,199 anything back to us yet? they [laughter] they [clears throat] got an initial 179 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:46,800 report back to us and so um we have additional scope that we're trying to 180 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:53,720 get them to look at because we believe that the scope that they have um is 181 00:15:54,079 --> 00:16:01,199 potentially on this building with water intrusion is not sufficient. So that 182 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:06,000 they were here um Friday to take a look at that and the jail. And then what 183 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:12,160 we're doing now, I think I had put something on the uh report maybe last 184 00:16:09,839 --> 00:16:18,560 week, but what we're doing now is we're getting um estimates from contractors 185 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:22,720 for the different roofing and all of that. So to see what the what the 186 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:27,839 differences would be just like we did with the vehicles. So 187 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,240 » can you provide that report to us? >> Uh sure. 188 00:16:32,336 --> 00:16:34,356 [clears throat] 189 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,320 » Any other questions? 190 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,839 » Okay. 191 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:07,039 Um, in your packet was is the draft of the 192 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:12,880 reduced full-time employee classification. Um, that would be 193 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:19,199 potentially ready for approval if the board so chooses to do that. 194 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:24,000 » Everyone had a chance to review that, look it over. 195 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:28,120 It's pretty straightforward based on the information that we had prior. 196 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:39,360 » You had a chance to review it, Jonah? >> Oh, yeah. It looks fine to me. It It 197 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:45,760 allows a little bit of flexibility. Um, I'll make a motion to 198 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:50,919 accept and implement HR policy for reduced time or reduce full-time 199 00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:50,919 employee. 200 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Okay, we have a motion on the table to accept the the new HR policy on a 201 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:04,720 reduced time. >> I'll second that. Is there any other 202 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:10,440 further discussion? Not all in favor. 203 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,440 » I I 204 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:17,440 » Okay. And then I had on the administrative uh on the action items 205 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:24,320 memorandum of understanding for Doyle Creek wershed uh mitigation project and 206 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:29,440 the corresponding resolution. Uh those um your county counselor decided that he 207 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:34,877 would wait until he's here and present those. So we do not have that today. 208 00:18:32,857 --> 00:18:34,877 [snorts] 209 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:43,120 So, that was all that I have on my administrative. 210 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:50,200 » Before you all move on, can I get your signatures for the checks? 211 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,200 » Jonah, can I use your stamp? 212 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,039 » Yep. >> Thank you. 213 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:56,039 » Yes. 214 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Anything 215 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,960 else we have time to do? How much time do you 216 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:47,360 need on your contract negotiation? >> So I guess my question on that we can 217 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:51,760 close for employer employee negotiations. 218 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:57,200 We can do contract negotiation with the attorney present. Um, but I don't know 219 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:01,840 that we can just go in for contract negotiation. 220 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:06,480 » Other than that, does it fit into one of >> We can do an open session. 221 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:12,360 » Okay. Does it fit under employer employee negotiation, contract 222 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,360 negotiation? Okay. 223 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,760 » You have time to get that done before 1:00. 224 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:30,159 » Yeah. It's it should take I mean 10 minutes with body time. 225 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:33,440 » Okay, we'll move contract discussion. 226 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:36,000 » We can't do that >> without the attorney present. 227 00:20:35,999 --> 00:20:39,840 [snorts] >> Well, you were talking about open 228 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,200 session. I think he's just talking about moving it up in the 229 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:46,960 » I just I'm talking about moving it up till right now since you said it didn't 230 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:53,520 need it was didn't need to happen. I I I I mean I I personally think it should be 231 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:58,000 open session, but um because we we've talked about it 232 00:20:55,679 --> 00:21:02,909 previously, but um I can't remember if it was open 233 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,909 session or [snorts] 234 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:10,240 » are we we're not talking about any specific 235 00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:14,400 individual involved in a contract negotiation. Correct. We're talking 236 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:19,320 about a contract with a specific Actually, we're it's a request for 237 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,320 proposals. 238 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:25,919 » Okay. >> Okay. We'll go with it. 239 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:30,960 » Okay. Yep. Um back in January, February, we talked 240 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:38,080 about uh initiating a new request for proposals for our county counselor. 241 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:43,465 Um I felt at that time that we agreed that we would proceed with that. Maybe 242 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,485 I'm mistaken. [snorts] 243 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:54,559 » Do you recall? Did we request an RFP? >> You you Yes, you did talk about it and 244 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:58,400 um it was my understanding you were moving forward and then I believe that 245 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:04,799 you visited with the county counselor and that was put on hold at that time. 246 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:11,360 So, um [clears throat] I am that's where I am with it. I it was I 247 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,640 was it was my understanding that talking about 248 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,640 » in discussion. I remember that discussion. 249 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:27,159 » I can't remember the specific. I I'm just concerned, 250 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,159 you know, 251 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:49,159 you know, he he provides us a letter >> stating that he's reviewed approved 252 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,159 the bills and warrants 253 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:58,080 » twice in the last year. He's provided that letter when there no were no early 254 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:04,080 checks to to approve. And so I have to question 255 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:09,039 whether he's actually I mean if if he actually looked at it 256 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:13,039 and there was no bills in the in the packet, why would he send a letter? 257 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:18,720 » Right. And I think that is a good question for him when he's here. 258 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,600 » But if the board wants to discuss moving forward [clears throat] whether to move 259 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:28,919 forward or not with an RFP, you could certainly vote on it and and I would be 260 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,919 happy to do whatever the board directs. 261 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:38,080 I would make a motion to move forward with an RFP for the county council 262 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:45,600 position. >> Okay, there's a motion on the table to 263 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:48,919 uh request RFP for county council. >> There a second 264 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:56,679 hear me? Okay, Jonah. >> Yeah, I can hear you. 265 00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:56,679 » Okay. 266 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:04,039 Did you have a second? >> We have no second. 267 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:12,880 » I'll second it. >> Okay. Uh been moved 268 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:18,480 and seconded 269 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:23,760 to request uh going ahead with the RFP for county council. Is there any other 270 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:28,480 discussion? I think I need a little background 271 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:33,360 again. >> Uh back in was that did you say Jan 272 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:39,600 January? January, February, >> we talked we talked with county council 273 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:46,000 about some issues that we had and I think we both it appeared to me at the 274 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:51,679 time we both got on the same page and uh instead we would plan to do an RFP 275 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:55,679 to try to get bids for a new county council. At that time I think we decided 276 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:03,440 to we didn't really drop it. put it on hold 277 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:08,400 and since then it is not it has not backed up. 278 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:12,000 I guess my my only thought is I I would like to have county council sitting 279 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:19,360 here. So, you know, we can address any 280 00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:22,799 concerns we have. Maybe 281 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:27,000 » go ahead and vote on it. Maybe go ahead and vote on it at that time. 282 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:35,760 that wouldn't exempt him from being on again 283 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,760 » unless we excluded 284 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:43,520 » I I had no intention of that but >> I was there 285 00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:49,039 » I mean >> also also running the 286 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:56,000 right now he's >> he's contracted for a certain dollar 287 00:25:51,440 --> 00:26:01,840 amount um you run the risk I guess nobody 288 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:07,760 else applying our RFP. We are in a attorney shortage 289 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:12,080 and then all we wind up doing is paying him more, 290 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:15,440 » right? It's always that chance. >> Really? 291 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:20,240 » And then I was going to like, you know, scope expectations. 292 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:25,840 » Well, I think we've I think we've addressed our expectations 293 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:33,200 several times. So, may I address Commissioner Hollow? So, 294 00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:37,840 if I draft an RFP, that will then come back to the board to review the scope 295 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:40,640 before it's sent out >> because the the request for proposals 296 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,720 would include >> discussion on the scope of 297 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:49,360 » Yes, the scope would be included in that document. And so then the board would 298 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:54,000 have the ability to review that document and approve it before it's sent out. And 299 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,159 he would still be well he could bid if he 300 00:26:55,679 --> 00:27:04,159 se show bid but >> yeah he could he could bid on it again. 301 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:10,000 » Well I would like to at least see you know discuss the scope and expectations. 302 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:13,039 I'm not again I'm new to this. I'm not sure where we are. 303 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:21,240 » I think he I think he he knows what the scope and expectations are. 304 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,240 We've had several conversations. 305 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,159 But >> why I'm talking 306 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:33,880 » before we do that, I personally I'd rather him be sitting here and saying 307 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,880 we're going to put out RFP 308 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:44,520 unless unless we come to some conclusion that we are satisfied 309 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,634 and that's the only reason that I would vote against it today. [clears throat] 310 00:27:51,760 --> 00:28:00,279 But we have we do have a motion and a second. 311 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,279 Any more discussion? 312 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:07,440 Mike. >> Okay. Okay. All in favor? 313 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,320 » I >> I 314 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:15,720 » All against I feels 32. 315 00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:22,880 » I think we can bring that back up. council's here. 316 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:26,399 » When the council's here, I'd like this readress it again when the council's 317 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:32,559 here. >> That's my consensus. 318 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:35,919 » Okay, we're ready for one:00. >> Okay, we we're about to have flooded you 319 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,320 with a whole bunch of people. >> Oh my goodness. 320 00:28:42,669 --> 00:28:44,689 [clears throat] 321 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:56,360 That doesn't mean people have to leave. It's going to have to squeeze in a 322 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,360 little bit more. 323 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,399 » Come on in, folks. >> Enough chairs for everyone. 324 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:08,399 » Yeah, stand up. >> There are seats there and here. Here. 325 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:12,159 And if anyone is brave and wants to sit right here, it's a really comfortable 326 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:18,095 chair. [laughter] >> A hot and easy chair. That one's wired 327 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,095 electricity. [laughter] 328 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,279 » Yeah. 329 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:43,039 » Well, welcome everyone to Marian County Commission. Pleased to have you here 330 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:47,600 today. Uh, I [snorts] think we can start out and we can introduce ourselves to 331 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:52,240 you and you introduce yourselves to us. Uh, 332 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:56,799 starting out Ashley. >> Ashley Herpic, the county clerk. 333 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:00,240 » Tina Spencer, Marian County Administrator. 334 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,200 » Ken Becker, county commission, first district. 335 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,159 » Dan, county commissioner, fourth district. 336 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,399 » Clark TS, county commissioner, third district. Mike Beny, second district 337 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,640 commissioner. >> You there Jonah? 338 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,679 » Jonah. >> Jonah Garing Maring County District 5. 339 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:20,920 » Okay, >> welcome. We'll let you introduce 340 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:23,600 yourselves. [clears throat] Starting Terry over 341 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,200 there maybe. >> Terry Bieber. I'm director of families 342 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:33,440 and communities together fact. >> I'm Mary Lou Eman. I just moved here 343 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,760 from Arizona. >> Lisa Schaefer. I own LNL Cleaning 344 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Service and uh a couple of other businesses, the bike shop in Hillsboro 345 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:46,640 and I'm on the leadership committee. >> Jared Ya. I live in Hillsboro and I'm on 346 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:51,600 the committee. >> Christa Schneider, uh committee member. 347 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Tristan Kilp, I'm committee member as well. 348 00:30:53,200 --> 00:31:01,760 » Turk, committee member. Member >> Mark Rogers, citizen. 349 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:05,600 » Uh Jana McClendon, citizen of Marian. Katie Spencer, EMS provider with Marian 350 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,360 County EMS. >> Alicia Stuc, I'm the director of the 351 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,799 Maran Historical Museum. >> Haley Deacon from Marian County Planning 352 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,440 and Zoning. >> Uh Dan Schaefer from uh Marian County 353 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,279 Emergency Management and Health Department. 354 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:24,279 » Okay, we got everybody. Welcome. 355 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,760 » Thanks for having us today. >> I guess I guess this is just an open 356 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,371 forum, so just don't ask us something we don't know. [laughter] 357 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:41,760 So, we're questions. >> Steve, anybody [clears throat] ready? 358 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:45,919 » Oh, thank you. Um, assuming all of you just weren't born 359 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,440 onto the commission or, you know, obviously were elected. What's something 360 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,679 you would want the public to know that you thought was a lot different from 361 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:59,240 when you were first running for office versus when you were actually on the 362 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,240 commission? 363 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:09,652 Well, I can guess I can start out. You learn to be a lot better listener 364 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:14,960 and and you really have to because [snorts] we're all lay people. We don't 365 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:20,480 have all the answers. And so we talk to a lot of constituents. 366 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:27,519 A lot of them have differing opinions and you try you try to work out what's 367 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:31,080 best for county as a whole. Jump in guys 368 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:40,799 say you spend a lot of time going after elusive perfect answer to a problem. 369 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:44,320 There is no such thing. No matter what you do, somebody's going 370 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:47,440 to be upset. Somebody's going to be pleased. 371 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:52,399 Somebody will think you're out of your mind. I mean, there's all kinds. You're 372 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:56,960 going to ask three people and you'll get five opinions. There's just a lot of 373 00:32:55,279 --> 00:33:02,799 give and [clears throat] take and it takes a lot of time. try to take 374 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:09,279 everything in consideration. But yeah, there is no perfect answers for anything 375 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:15,360 that you ask people what their priority is and again depending you live in town, 376 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:19,840 you live in a country, you live north, you live south, there's a lot of 377 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:27,919 variance. There's just no perfect answers. You just do the best you can 378 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:31,880 and you don't make a lot of friends very popular people 379 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:42,880 learn to listen. Um I I' I've made a lot of friends so [laughter] 380 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,600 made some enemies too but I've made a lot of friends. So, 381 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:54,720 well, one of our hardest issues is still 382 00:33:51,679 --> 00:34:00,240 employees for the county as well as any business within our county. 383 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,679 That's probably been the hardest part to successfully do anything that would help 384 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,519 that much that I thought hopefully would be 385 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:11,919 easier. I enlist a few meetings again. We had 386 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:16,079 more unfunded mandates just in the year and a half I've been on. 387 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:20,960 Maybe some grants or something that aren't available anymore that have 388 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,480 funded some of our projects and how to fix that. If you got any suggestions, 389 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,800 you're welcome to talk to me at any time. 390 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:34,000 And I think the leadership program was good 391 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:38,240 for me as well as anybody that I've went to a lot of the graduations whether it's 392 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:42,720 the youth side or the adult side and everybody took some really good thoughts 393 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:47,760 from it. Jared was one that even got on the committee 394 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,919 it hopefully he's brought you some 395 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:58,044 highlight points for you to dwell on. I guess might be the future and Anything 396 00:34:56,023 --> 00:34:58,044 [snorts] 397 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:06,400 you guys can come up with a suggestion to make any of our departments better, 398 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:12,400 the county better or community schools better, the fire department or any other 399 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:16,560 small item. Some of the small things is what we can tackle and make the most 400 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:22,160 difference is that may turn into a lot bigger thing once it 401 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,520 » one will evolve into the other in time. That's about what I would have to say. 402 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:28,800 And I think you're just new to the road bridge correctly in case 403 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,839 » I am. I am brand new. >> The secretary out there and I think 404 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,920 she's >> learning. I think I visited with her a 405 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:40,480 while back and >> everybody's glad to have her out there. 406 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:48,640 I think >> uh how much time do you guys on a weekly 407 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:53,440 or monthly basis do you devote to this endeavor? You mean hourswise, dayswise? 408 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,560 » Yeah, hours wise. >> During the You mean during during the 409 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,160 course of the week? >> Yeah. During the course of the week, 410 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,800 » it could for me it could vary anywhere from 411 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,680 eight hours to 30 hours. 412 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:12,000 » You know, depend it kind of depends on the issues you're dealing with and what 413 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:15,680 kind of contacts you have to make and what kind of information you got to seek 414 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:22,320 out. We're blessed. We've got a good county administrative. She she provides 415 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,640 until she came we were doing much much more research 416 00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:31,040 » more >> I mean she's kind of taken the lead on 417 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:35,280 that so that has been very very helpful >> just because then that way she can 418 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:40,520 maintain the kind of contact she needs to to search out that research. 419 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:50,050 Yeah, it's not it's uh it can be it can be as much as you want 420 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,050 it to be. Really? [laughter] 421 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:59,520 » Yeah. >> I agree with Ken on that. That Yeah, it 422 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,200 it'll be what you want it to be. There's plenty 423 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:08,640 you can occupy yourself all week if you wanted to. Sometimes it's not a matter. 424 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,520 I mean, you just got to look into things. Mhm. 425 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,040 » You just get a snippet here in a meeting then. 426 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,040 » Sure. >> Something comes forward and then you end 427 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:21,839 up with more questions than answers and you got to start looking. You got to 428 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:27,359 wait and then you try contact people for opinions and stuff like that and 429 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:32,480 sometimes you got to go around you know roads different issues. Sure. 430 00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:37,599 » Go around and actually see for yourself. >> So yeah, it's a lot more time than just 431 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:40,880 this meeting. It all doesn't happen here. No, 432 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:43,200 » it's usually just gives you a starting point, too. 433 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,000 » Awesome. >> I'm curious. You come up here for cooler 434 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:51,920 weather? >> Um, as a matter of fact, no. 435 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:54,000 » Quality of life, right? [laughter] >> I'm sorry. 436 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,480 » Quality of life. >> Absolutely. 437 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:06,480 » Absolutely. I think it's kind of humorous some of the meetings that I've 438 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:10,960 gone to and and such, you know, and and I'll be sitting by a commissioner from 439 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:15,200 an urban area and they want to know where my office is if it's on the second 440 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:20,640 or third floor of the Maring County Courthouse. 441 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:26,160 It's downstairs way down [laughter] called a furniture. No. So that's kind 442 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:30,960 of humorous to me because they all have offices. 443 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,160 » Hey, welcome to Kansas. >> There's spare room in the attic, Ken. 444 00:38:32,831 --> 00:38:38,160 [laughter] >> Yeah, it's not hot up there at all. I've 445 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:42,056 I've been there. >> Not hot. Not hot at all. [laughter] 446 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,119 » But Jonah, I'd be curious about your answer to the question. What's different 447 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,119 than what you thought it was going to be? 448 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:58,320 Uh mine pretty uh I mean I I came from the city council so I kind of expected a 449 00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:04,400 little bit of the same just move the decimal point. The uh but the other part 450 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:12,079 was a lot of times we all have a common goal 451 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:17,359 but there is a vast difference in how we get there sometimes and that's that 452 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,079 seems to be the struggle that I wasn't expecting. 453 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:33,599 Mine would be could I put a two or three time limit on anybody that calls it 454 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:40,160 would help my day be shorter. I've had some as long as over 50 minutes 455 00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:45,599 several [snorts] 30 to 40 minutes. And if you're busy doing something, it is 456 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:50,480 likely hangups. That's about what you got to do once in a while. 457 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:55,599 And I'm glad they're calling me, but it shouldn't take that long to express 458 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,880 their point of view and move on. I guess that's something I really didn't expect 459 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:04,680 either. Continue that long on a discussion on 460 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,680 the phone. 461 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:13,760 » I spend as much time as it takes >> and yeah, I was going to lead into that 462 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:20,160 one. Uh when CO I I first two weeks of CO I 463 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:26,720 probably clocked 80 hours um just doing this. Um 464 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:33,040 it's it was unreal. It was it was something unprecedented. Something we 465 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:40,400 weren't nobody really knew at the time. Uh then other times it's it's you know 466 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:46,240 a phone call here and there and it's really not a lot. So I I mean what Kent 467 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:49,240 said it it it kind of depends on the issues. 468 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,520 » More question. >> I've taken several good thank you phone 469 00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:01,920 calls too for something that we address. So you like to see that part of it. Can 470 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:09,378 you share with us the most difficult issue in Marian County to deal with? 471 00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:12,640 » Give me about 10. [laughter] 472 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,079 » We can I don't know that you could limit it to one. 473 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:21,599 We've [clears throat] had major issues in this county, you know, over the 474 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:27,040 years. You know, prior to me, it was landfill and then it was, you know, then 475 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:34,800 you had wind farms, uh, other other things that have arisen. 476 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:40,800 Uh, COVID was big, uh, like Mike brought up. 477 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:45,440 uh staffing staffing our departments was kind of a nightmare for a couple of 478 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:50,079 years. You know, I would try to keep right trying to keep departments open, 479 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:54,880 » you know, because people still needed to needed service. 480 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:59,760 » So, you know, in the midst of where a lot of businesses shut down that you 481 00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:06,319 can't shut down government just can't. So, you know, we were 482 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:11,359 blessed with enough technology that we could at least have a couple of people 483 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:17,520 here and maybe a couple people online working and th those kind of things. So, 484 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:23,640 you know, that was we we met in this room every week week 485 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:23,640 during co. 486 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:31,200 » Is there one particular department that's hard to staff or is that all the 487 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:36,160 way? Well, we've had shortages in just about every department. I mean, it's 488 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,920 it's not it's not critical anymore, though. We've we've kind of gotten 489 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:44,480 caught up. We're always still looking for good the right people. 490 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:49,040 » You know, probably Sheriff's Department is probably the 491 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:54,160 open needs at this point as much as anybody if I'm not mistaken. 492 00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:58,800 » It's part of that having the budget to get good people in. Well, it's a big 493 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:05,280 part of it because when COVID came along, uh 494 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:07,920 salaries, hourly wages, everything spiked 495 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,640 » working from home. >> I mean, some people were changed. 496 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,880 » Yeah. >> I mean, uh there was some people that 497 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:20,720 were doubling their wages during during CO, I'm not saying countywise wide, but 498 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:25,680 in a variety of occupations around the country and basically doing it from 499 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:29,680 home. And some of them to this day are doing it from home. 500 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:34,800 So >> yeah, Jared, [laughter] 501 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:38,880 » well, my wages didn't double. I mean, Jared's a good example. That's that's an 502 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,079 occupation that can be. >> Yes. 503 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:45,119 » You know, but during co we were kind of trying to do it where it didn't work all 504 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,545 that great. >> And we're we're glad that somebody like 505 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,160 Jared did stay and come back and [clears throat] stay in our area. Well, 506 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:56,560 it's nice because like a job like that's portable, so people can move back here 507 00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:01,599 to take care of their folks or whatever. >> They don't displace anybody. Like I pump 508 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:05,040 Arkansas money into our economy. >> I didn't displace anybody from a job. 509 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:07,920 And in the next 10 years, I think you'll see a lot more of that 510 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,680 » in communities of this size. >> You know, and that's one reason the 511 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,960 high-speed internet has been so critical to get established in the county. Of 512 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:22,880 course, we talked about Obama money years ago for Tri County took that on 513 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:28,640 and we had highspeed internet in our real area for over 20 some almost 25 514 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:34,560 years. We still have some areas in our county that doesn't doesn't have it. 515 00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:38,800 Somebody's vision to move forward with something that's really center school 516 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:41,680 district wouldn't exist without it. >> Yeah. A lot of people think that's 517 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:46,800 silly, but they don't realize what a boon it is for the small communities for 518 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:52,480 people to be able to move back here remotely and have fiber internet. 519 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:57,359 » It actually almost is like having another industry 520 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:00,596 » because people can move move here and work out from home. 521 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,040 » Now, whether AI is going to ruin it [laughter] 522 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:08,920 is still a big topic. >> So, what's your biggest joy at being a 523 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,920 county commissioner? 524 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:16,371 Mine is getting mine is getting to meet people. I got one of these. [laughter] 525 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:22,640 » You know, I've gotten I've gotten to I've gotten to know a lot of people that 526 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:29,440 I probably wouldn't ever have known other than they look familiar. 527 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:34,079 So, you know, that to me that's a that's been a blessing because there's some 528 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,960 really good people around and you you really you know who they were, but you 529 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,800 didn't know anything about them. Well, I found out I was a pretty good guy, 530 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:47,119 really nice lady, and really cares about others. 531 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:54,000 I think it's I think it's mostly about community to me. 532 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:57,119 » With Mark's help, I can turn a laptop on for the first time in my [laughter] 533 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,119 life. >> So, a few years ago when we were here, 534 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,319 and I was a student, not on the committee, I asked the commissioners 535 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:09,440 that were here, and three of you are new. So, I'm going to ask the question 536 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:14,480 again. We have a society where a lot of young people believe that the decision-m 537 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,960 is done by a bunch of old white men and they don't know how to come become 538 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,359 involved and don't know that they are any good if they do become involved. 539 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:25,760 What do you say to them to encourage them to be a part of the process to be a 540 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,160 part of the decision-m and how do we get them in this room instead of just 541 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:36,400 complaining outside? I think it starts at home if and 542 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:40,319 handinhand with that it needs to be empathi emphasized through public 543 00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:45,359 schools and I think there's been a not putting 544 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:50,160 down public schools but then there's been a failure in that in that area. 545 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,960 » It's like civic responsibility. >> Right. 546 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,760 » Right. >> Yeah. Who's teaching that? 547 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,319 » Anybody know there's school in this county teaching civic responsibility? 548 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,839 riches. >> Maybe 549 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:09,480 » I hear I'm a substitute teacher and I hear it, 550 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,480 » but how well is it being heard, 551 00:47:10,942 --> 00:47:12,962 [clears throat] 552 00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:20,720 » the young people, young people, I think getting them in 553 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:27,440 government is critical. People my age, I got an outlook on life. 554 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:33,599 You know, a 20 year new roof is a lifetime guarantee for me. Young people 555 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:39,040 in their 20s and 30s just starting. They're looking 30, 40, 50 years. Where 556 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:44,160 am I going to be? I I don't want to trash old people being 557 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:49,520 one, but you got a limited scope here. You're just trying to get through the 558 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:54,480 next 10, 15, 20 years or whatever. And you just look at things differently. And 559 00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:59,760 going back to the original statement, biggest choice, young people have some 560 00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:04,319 great ideas. Their problem is they got jobs. They're 561 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:09,680 raising families. They're taking kids to ball games. I mean, they're so busy just 562 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:15,280 trying to keep food on the table, clothes on the kids, schools. They don't 563 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:19,599 have time for a lot of this. It's a shame because that's where the 564 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,839 ideas are. It's just a there's a whole different 565 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:28,400 perspective. And uh we've got some young people in 566 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,760 zoning, moved to get some young people. We made some great strides with young 567 00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:36,640 people getting in some of these positions. 568 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:40,800 Um my experience, my experience, I was in 569 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,559 the Navy. You come to find out, you listen to the young kids, 570 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:50,400 everybody was in, well, we've always done it this way. Young kids don't think 571 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:56,400 like that. They got no new ideas and I mean they can just 572 00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,319 start a spark and then it sort of grows. Well, yeah, we can do this differently, 573 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:04,960 whatever. But getting young people in the government, 574 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:09,760 especially you look at the feds, we need some young blood people that 575 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:13,599 think differently, ask questions, but they also have suggestions. They 576 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,280 don't just come out grabbing a lot of them. They'll not only identify a 577 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:22,400 problem, they'll tell you how you can fix it. If you think about it a while, 578 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,200 they'll come up with some pretty good ideas. Just get involved, getting the 579 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:32,000 conversation going. I think it's important. So on that, 580 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:36,400 young people need to be in this. I wish there's some way we could get them more 581 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:42,319 active. six people that see the youth leadership and you've all seen 582 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:47,119 » some good ideas and some of them have even got on the committee you for the 583 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:51,280 adult or for the whole program >> and have been a blessing to their 584 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:53,760 thoughts and ideas if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, we had 585 00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:59,760 » I said something here a while back or at the last dinner was three of my 586 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:05,920 neighbors kids have been on this and came back to be on the committee with 587 00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:11,920 that and the pride pride three of my neighbor kids are on that committee just 588 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:19,280 how proud that and if you go back to their grandmother with 4 and all she 589 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:24,400 gave for leadership as young in our day 50 some or 60 years ago starting in 4 590 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:29,280 and everything she put up. Not everybody can take the dedication and the time 591 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:34,000 that some of them had in the past, but we've still got to encourage that young 592 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:39,359 person to take that lead. Like I said, I couldn't be any prouder of my neighbors 593 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,400 kids that have flourished with this speech, the the junior leadership 594 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,319 program. >> Thanks to all of you. So, 595 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:51,040 » but the cool thing is is that it's just like the adult program. They're only 596 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:55,200 with us for five days. You know, I mean, we have them every 597 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:59,839 other week for 10 weeks. We have them for five days, but it makes that much of 598 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,359 an impact on them, which is so >> I don't know that anybody's been through 599 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,880 the program that put it down much from what I've seen. So, 600 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:09,280 » that what >> that have put the program down. 601 00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:13,440 » Yes. >> Even one couple that's basically retired 602 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:17,040 and >> took the leadership program this last 603 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:23,119 time in their what >> retirement age. and I as husband and 604 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:28,880 wife and had positive things after raising our kids being here in this 605 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:35,040 county their entire life still took some good thoughts from the programs 606 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:40,240 and I hope we get people to encourage and can keep it up in the future. 607 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:47,960 Some of that you know just what you guys can instill in them is very important. 608 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,960 comes up for all your efforts. 609 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:55,760 » Do either of the other commissioners have anything on that on 610 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,800 » Well, it's important. >> I just got called 611 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,400 » It's important to get >> I just got called an old white guy. So I 612 00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:07,060 I'm >> Well, I was going to exclude you, but I 613 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,060 figured why. [laughter] 614 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,720 » Don't become friends with >> Every time she says that, I'm sitting 615 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:16,559 right next to her. It's like, >> Lisa, what do you consider as old? 616 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,599 » Well, I'm just telling you at the time I originally asked that question, and you 617 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:24,640 guys can remember this because this was like 2022 or 23. That was the 618 00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:28,400 terminology that was being used during elections. You don't want to keep voting 619 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,839 for the old white guys. It just kept getting and so that's why I said it 620 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,760 then, but it seems to spur people on. So, I'm gonna keep saying [laughter] 621 00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:40,319 » we may be old black guys, but we think we think we're way younger. 622 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,240 » I think Commissioner Dirks was going to say something. 623 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,240 » Sorry. >> Okay. Um, 624 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,800 it's not just about getting the youth involved. What I see is the public in 625 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:58,000 general doesn't want to get involved in policy in in government. And 626 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,680 if you don't get involved, you can't complain, 627 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,960 » right? >> That's why I ran. 628 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:10,079 Um because I didn't feel like 629 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:15,520 the public's concerns were being addressed. And so I decided to make a 630 00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:19,920 difference. And it takes not just young people, but 631 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:28,000 middle-aged white guys, young women, old women, everybody to get 632 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:32,720 involved and and step up and speak out and 633 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:36,400 you know, whether you elect 634 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,359 men or 30 year old women, 635 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,920 if you don't get involved, they're not going to do you're not going to be happy 636 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:53,359 with what they do because they're going to they're going to fall back to their 637 00:53:50,160 --> 00:54:00,559 their preferences and their but until the public stands up, young and old 638 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:08,480 alike and holds them accountable, you can't complain about government. 639 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:14,640 And that's why I ran. and I try to listen to the public and and 640 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,640 address the issues that that they want addressed. 641 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:29,200 A former wife of mine said it wasn't bitching, it was boosting. 642 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:34,680 So, anybody that wants to boost a good thought, you're welcome. come talk to 643 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,680 it. 644 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,160 » I think people if they if they love our country and they're patriotic, 645 00:54:38,967 --> 00:54:44,640 [clears throat] they're going to want to serve. 646 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,792 That just comes along with with being patriotic and loving our nation. And we 647 00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:52,280 have a problem with that right now [clears throat] nationwide. 648 00:54:53,280 --> 00:55:01,520 So it does we need to encourage we need to encourage those that really feel like 649 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:06,720 can step up. >> What's interesting um can was we we go 650 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,720 through during the leadership portion we do a kind of a class portion or class 651 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,440 section about leadership or just different things that we're learning 652 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:17,359 about from Kansas Leadership Center is where we taking this information from 653 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,760 and we do an activity called the gap. So, we talk about our concerns about our 654 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:26,319 community and then our aspirations and then what's getting in the way. And 655 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,640 after this morning, we did our concerns and our aspirations and it was very 656 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:34,400 similar to what each of you just spoke to there and kind of going back to 657 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,839 Lisa's question that she just asked which Lisa wasn't even at her this 658 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:42,079 morning session but I've been there before. That's a very connected um thing 659 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,839 that we're kind of talking about and I'm hoping that those in the class you're 660 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,280 kind of hearing some of the same themes that our county commission is also 661 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,119 expressing too as concerns and aspirations and then what are ways that 662 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,440 we can get there? What are those aspirations um and our concerns and how 663 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,520 can we build the bridge from those concerns to those aspirations? So, how 664 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:05,839 do we get youth involved and engaged? How do we have neighborly and compassion 665 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:08,480 and empathy back in our own county and what does that look like? And so I've 666 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,960 hope this is kind of giving you a little bit of a jump start to thinking through 667 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:17,680 what are ways that we can be engaged and involved 668 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:22,400 » just in taking it several year a few years ago but just seeing it on the 669 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:30,079 board get a list of reasons and what it was even just a year or two's prior 670 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:33,839 class and well nobody's fixed it yet so >> we need to look at how to fix it if they 671 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:40,240 couldn't fix I mean >> throw out anything that might better it 672 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:44,000 or make it better fix it. I mean, it's still you need to think further. Think 673 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,920 further outside the box. >> Don't be scared to throw any suggestion 674 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,799 out there that you would look at on >> Well, the alternate is true, too, 675 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:56,000 because we had one of our biggest problems the year that that I was in the 676 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,960 course was daycare. We just did not have a space that would take on additional 677 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:04,480 daycare. And now we have the Hillsboro daycare 678 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:08,400 center that was basically formulated at the time we were discussing that. And I 679 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,200 think that I have seen more of that happening since I've been a member on 680 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:16,640 the committee of things that we we keep them in the forefront. So like right now 681 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:21,200 I know there's a business proposal out there to talk about non-emergency 682 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:24,720 medical transportation that was formulated in my head years ago, but 683 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:27,760 until I realized other people saw it as a need, I didn't keep thinking about it. 684 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,920 I didn't I just thought it was something I saw and because I was working within 685 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,319 the community of elderly people and taking care of people that always seem 686 00:57:33,119 --> 00:57:37,920 to need that kind of help. >> One of our first daycare centers was at 687 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:44,319 Florence and it has not been able to sustain itself and always not operating 688 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:48,240 » this past [clears throat] since start school year or maybe last summer 689 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,079 » two years ago. Yeah. So that's sad that somebody went to a lot of effort yet it 690 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:56,799 failed >> and you would think from [clears throat] 691 00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:00,319 and from the location it'd be ideal. >> We don't know why it failed. 692 00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:02,640 » Yes. I a lot of it goes back to exactly some of the same concerns were being 693 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,200 brought up here. >> Staffing was most 694 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:10,559 » staffing. It's how do you get people engaged? How do you have the the passion 695 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,480 or the desire to help others and to be part of that neighborly community? And 696 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,680 how does that how does that work? Um, and that's what we're continuing to see 697 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:21,680 even at a local level in each of these different communities. 698 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:25,440 » So, it almost puts a negative that why would anybody try this again if it it's 699 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,880 already failed >> because somebody out there is going to 700 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,400 find that place in the gap that can can answer some of those problems. And I 701 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,960 that's why we keep trying. Um, and I remember when that was opening up 702 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,440 because I took a tour of the building at the time. 703 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,440 » Um, and I think there's a lot the other problem is that, you know, there are 704 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,319 things that you don't think about until you're in the midst of it, right? So 705 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:48,960 insurance being what it is and going up and being impossible and and people not 706 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:52,960 having the right kind of educa housing is a terrible problem. 707 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:55,839 » Utilities, insurance, maintenance of the building 708 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,079 » and again the biggest one was staffing of that 709 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,760 » didn't work very failed. It just couldn't sustain 710 00:59:00,980 --> 00:59:05,040 [clears throat] itself. >> Yeah. 711 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,960 » With a lot of good people putting a lot of effort. 712 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:13,119 Well, what's interesting from a historical perspective being the 713 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:19,200 director of the museum is that throughout the Marian's entire history, 714 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:23,200 it's there have been a ton of failures. And it's only due to the perseverance 715 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:28,160 of, you know, some really dedicated citizens who wanted to see Marian 716 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:32,880 flourish and grow that were able to have things like the Elgen and other things 717 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:37,280 like that. And so just cuz you fail doesn't mean that it's 718 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,240 the end. But you're right, it does take, you know, dedicated citizens who are 719 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:45,760 willing to put in the work to keep trying to make something happen. 720 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:49,920 » I would like to speak to that gap for a moment. You talk about getting more 721 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:54,480 people involved in government. You need staff on in your offices and just people 722 00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:00,319 getting youth involved in government and civil service and civic activities in 723 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:03,520 their communities. um have just one minute. I know you're some of you have 724 01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:09,760 heard of the bridges out of poverty program. This Ruby Payne, you maybe been 725 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:14,640 to a workshop with her. Um the way she looks at poverty is resources. People 726 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:19,760 that are underresourced and people that are resourced and how do we move people 727 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:24,240 from being underresourced into gaining resources? and her program has evolved 728 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:29,359 over the years that they have communities now that are called bridges 729 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,799 communities where they brought their training not just for the people in 730 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,000 poverty but for the whole community starting from the commissioners the 731 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:41,760 police department the health department the educators the veterinarians I mean 732 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:46,960 everybody farmers citizens whatever educate them in the philosophy and in 733 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:51,280 the viewpoint of bridges to look at those under look at resources and how to 734 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:56,000 what is poverty It's not just money, it's lack of resources and how do we 735 01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:59,280 communicate? How do we inspire people that are underresourced to build 736 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:04,240 resources? And it brings your whole community into talking understanding the 737 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:08,240 same language, the same culture, so to speak. And places like Muscogee, 738 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,317 Oklahoma have really been big on this for like 10, 15 years. And so they go 739 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,000 around and give [cough and clears throat] 740 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,680 how to bring that to your community. There's other ones around the the nation 741 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:21,839 that way. And a couple years ago, I had a dream of doing this in Peabody, but I 742 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:26,799 just I was too busy earning money to really get the leg work going and get 743 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:29,760 Peabody more excited about it. Um, but I was thinking about it this morning, 744 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,160 Tristan, and we were talking about that gap. And I would love to come to share 745 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,480 more with you commissioners about this sometime. 746 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,079 » Right now, I'm talking on the back of my head. It's not right at the front, so 747 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:42,960 it's kind of not clear, but >> that's because you're an old white guy. 748 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,687 » Yeah. >> He can't help it. 749 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:49,359 » He's not completely white. [laughter] But that I give an 750 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,960 endorsement to that book though. I think we were in the same workshop at Prair 751 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:57,119 with Prairie View when they were teaching us that about that. I had never 752 01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:01,520 heard of that the concept bridges out of poverty. 753 01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:06,000 » So, and I have watched it work in little pockets of and places even here in our 754 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:10,240 own county where there's bridges being built and resources being offered to 755 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,079 people that are in a cycle of poverty because their family's always been poor 756 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,799 and their family was always poor. It is worth I think it's really worth 757 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:21,040 looking at. >> Well, even a common goal, even in a 758 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:26,400 marriage, if the common goal isn't there for the couple, they will fail. That's 759 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:31,599 all there is to it. And the saying I've had said, if we don't all work together, 760 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:36,880 we'll all fail. And that's still true in any aspect of [clears throat] 761 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:41,839 life in general to religion or whatever else. If we don't 762 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:45,240 all give it our best, we'll all fail. It's a community 763 01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:54,720 all ornone situation at times, but it's got to be a common goal that we all 764 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:59,200 agree with to a point to make it work. >> I think that's kind of a good spot to 765 01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:03,359 kind of wrap up on. We don't want to take all of your time today. [laughter] 766 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,200 » Say one more thing. >> Yeah, 767 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:14,720 » we're using the word community. It's being used in different aspects here, 768 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:18,480 but community is the operative word. Christ is you'll see community come 769 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:22,720 together. All of a sudden, working miracles, things that you don't see 770 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:28,160 daytoday. You know, flood, people helping each other. And it'd be I think 771 01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:34,400 we'd be better off if we could expand that in our day-to-day lives. Think as a 772 01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:38,160 community. you get thinking in smaller groups, 773 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:44,799 you know, country, city. I mean, just it breaks down all kinds of different ways. 774 01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:50,640 We're all in this together. And I spent a lot of time overseas when I was in the 775 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:54,319 Navy and they lack community over there. I was I never really witnessed that over 776 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,559 and I think that's the secret of this country. And then you get to the big 777 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:03,920 cities where they're having all the trouble. There's not really a community 778 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:09,119 there. What we have in the central, you know, rural areas. 779 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,799 We have comm we can do better, but we do have community. I think that's why you 780 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:16,720 see a we're able to deal with things better. 781 01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:22,720 Don't get overwhelmed so much. But community, I think, is what we should 782 01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:27,680 strive to be common goals, common, you know, beliefs and they just need to 783 01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:32,160 stick together. We think of county as a community, 784 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:35,599 marrying as a community and I think you need to work that aspect 785 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:40,160 of it. >> It's just all it is is just a different 786 01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:44,960 way of thinking. >> One thing that has encouraged me is and 787 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:50,640 I've seen this over the last decade. Almost every community in Marian County 788 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:55,200 now has a festival. 10 years ago there was hardly any. 789 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,880 And now almost every community has a festival. 790 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,720 We found that out because we use transient guest tax to help support 791 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:06,880 that. So to me that's very encouraging. 792 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:11,280 There's actually people saying I guess these towns are worth saving and it's 793 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:16,319 going to take people to come together in order to do it. 794 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:20,079 » Well, thank you all for your time. >> The leadership committee is touring 795 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:24,319 county offices today. So, we have been all over and now we're headed over to 796 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:28,000 the sheriff's office and dispatch and they'll wrap up with some application 797 01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:29,599 sessions later today. >> Best part of 798 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,280 » Thank you all. >> Leadership for me was we got fed very 799 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,680 well [laughter] >> the time we met. 800 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,880 » Thank you all. >> Thank you guys. [clears throat] 801 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,440 Thank you Jonah. >> Too long, Dan. 802 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:46,000 » Ben for coffee again. 803 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:49,039 » May have to do that. >> Thank you guys. Thank you neighbor. Good 804 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:55,680 to see you again. >> Takes me a long time to stand. 805 01:05:52,880 --> 01:06:00,079 » Thanks. Rock and roll. >> Holl and I became friends over a small 806 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:02,799 argument on in the newspaper 25 years ago. [laughter] 807 01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:07,380 » Who won? >> We did. 808 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:09,400 » We did. Go. [laughter] [clears throat] 809 01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:20,440 » Okay. We have an executive session on personnel performance. 810 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,880 I move session executive session in order to discuss job performance of a 811 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,880 specific employee pursuant to KSA75-4319B 812 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:38,240 under item number one for personnel matters of non-elected personnel 813 01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:43,280 with the board and Tina and tell how long 814 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:50,079 » start with 15 minutes 20 minutes >> start with 20 815 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:53,599 » 20 minutes so that would be uh until 56 with open session to resume back in the 816 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:58,480 commission chambers following closed session. 817 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:03,520 » Tina, I don't think I've got the link for the team's exec. 818 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,160 » Okay. Do you want to do it on Teams or do you 819 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,680 want to call? [clears throat] What would works best for you? I I can just send 820 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,200 you one. >> Yeah, 821 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,920 » that probably works best. >> I can hear I can hear everybody on 822 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,440 Teams. >> Okay. I'll I'll try to send you 823 01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:22,880 something here. >> Okay. 824 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,160 Okay, we have a motion. >> I move it. 825 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:30,960 » I mean second. >> Okay. Moved and seconded by Commissioner 826 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:35,720 Hall. Any other discussion? Not all in favor? 827 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,720 » I I 828 01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:47,200 executive session, no decisions made. Uh we're going to go back in. I move that 829 01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:54,000 we recession the executive session in order to discuss job performance of a 830 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:57,359 specific employee pursuant to KSA 75-439 4319B 831 01:07:55,599 --> 01:08:04,079 under item number one for personnel matters of non-elected personnel with 832 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:08,160 the board and TINA uh until 210 833 01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:12,799 with open session to resume back in the commission chambers following closed 834 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,799 session. Second. 835 01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:21,960 » Any other discussion? If not, all in favor? 836 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,960 » I 837 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:26,920 remember how to do it right from last time. 838 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:35,319 » Okay. >> Out of executive session, no action 839 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:35,319 taken. Uh, commission comments. 840 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:43,679 » I have nothing. >> You pray for rain yet this week. There 841 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:47,440 you go. >> Pray for rain. That's what my soybeans 842 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:51,279 look like today. >> At least you got some. 843 01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:55,400 » But it'll dry down to nothing if >> any outside board reports. 844 01:08:55,759 --> 01:08:59,679 » If not, I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. 845 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,080 » Second. Seconded motion. 846 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:09,239 » All in favor? I I vote. 847 01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:14,040 just got on. 848 01:09:16,677 --> 01:09:18,697 [laughter] 849 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:25,120 » Is there a reason to pledge allegiance? >> Jonah, 850 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:28,600 » there is. >> Can you hear me? 851 01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:36,400 » Did you vote to adjourn? >> Yes. 852 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,880 » You're exercising. I'm exercising. How surprised