[0:04] Please stand for the pledge.
[0:11] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:16] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:22] justice for all. [clears throat]
[0:31] Mar County Commission meeting Tuesday,
September 8th, 2026
[0:36] 12:30. We start out with public forum
forum in accordance with Marian County,
[0:42] Kansas public forum policy.
Pre-registration is required. Please
[0:46] limit talk topics to county commission
business. Follow any times time limits
[0:52] set by the board and address your
concerns in a courteous manner.
[0:56] Discussion of specific identified
personnel privileged or confidential
[1:00] matters will not be allowed.
[1:07] Tom Britain real large
[1:15] did try to get a hold of me. Well, they
didn't do a very good job because I
[1:19] didn't I didn't uh
[clears throat] say anything. I have 35
[1:23] million reasons why I would want to talk
to these people. And uh I didn't take
[1:29] any of their money, dirty money. Uh
and so uh
[1:35] it's not them that's that's the I have
an issue with it's the county. It's the
[1:40] it's the
the uh
[1:44] it's the protest petition. It's the uh
rightway
[1:48] rightway agreement. uh it's the uh
authority and it's also uh uh the cuts
[1:55] that's expired.
And [clears throat] so one thing uh I'd
[2:00] like to talk about too is is is this u
investigator you guys are going to get
[2:05] now take careful
be careful about this. Um, back a few
[2:11] years ago when when we started, they uh
you hired a consultant consultant
[2:16] [clears throat]
Patrick Hoffman from Great Bend and he
[2:22] uh
he was going to negotiate with your
[2:25] pilot agreement. So he came here and you
guys in uh and actually so
[2:31] so Pat Pstring who is the president of
of
[2:35] Expedition Win, he met with this guy
that you hired
[2:41] the weekend before he came here. And
then so you guys listened to him and and
[2:46] uh took instead of uh he he gave his
speech and his these uh recommendations
[2:52] and stuff as for this and and uh that's
why you got an eighth of the property
[2:58] tax that that you guys uh uh well you
don't ask them for too much because then
[3:05] they won't build this wonderful project.
And the other one was the uh pro the uh
[3:10] decommissioning agreement
which uh
[3:15] which is not a it's a it's not even a
bond. It's it's a letter of credit with
[3:20] with this company Nordia
in uh in Denmark which which was uh
[3:28] indicted for uh $3.8 8 million billion
dollar the B uh for for money
[3:36] laundering. This is who you've got your
your uh decommissioning agreement with.
[3:41] So when you're looking to find this
investigator, I hope you get somebody
[3:45] that that's going to be fair and and and
look into it um and and look into it
[3:52] well.
And so, uh, I guess as far as the thing
[3:56] about paying for it, the taxpayer money,
well, several years ago, I think you
[4:02] might remember that the county uh
[clears throat] the the county uh
[4:10] prosecuted me for basically coming to a
commissioner's meeting. Now, that was
[4:17] that was uh dismissed in court with
prejudice.
[4:21] And uh I'm kind of wondering how much
uh taxpayer dollars was was used to to
[4:28] uh prosecute an innocent citizen
and uh were you worried about that
[4:34] taxpayer money yet? Thank you.
[4:40] » Get out of here.
>> Anybody else? Anyone online?
[4:46] » I'd like to make a comment.
>> Okay.
[4:49] Um,
I normally would not do this, but I'd
[4:53] like to address some of the comments
made by Dave Mueller before last week's
[4:57] commission meeting.
A couple weeks ago, two private citizens
[5:00] comment about issues with county
officials. And several members in this
[5:04] room took offense to the point that they
changed the rules to limit their First
[5:08] Amendment right to redress their
government through free speech. Yet, no
[5:13] such protection was given to those
members of the public when Mr. Mueller
[5:16] called them out for expressing their
concerns. In fact, Mr. Mueller demanded
[5:22] that we as a commission further restrict
restrict the public's right of free
[5:26] speech by limiting their ability to
address this board. Seems to me there's
[5:30] a double standard and that only speech
that we don't agree with gets censored.
[5:35] Mr. Mueller implied a concerted attack
on planning and zoning at last me last
[5:40] month's meeting. Since when do questions
equal an attack? Unless those questions
[5:46] don't want to be answered, I'd like to
remind this board what the state
[5:51] statutes describe as the duties of the
planning and zoning commission.
[5:55] This board statutoily reviews all
applications that require exceptions to
[6:00] the county planning and zoning
regulations to see if those exceptions
[6:03] are in the best interest of Marian
County. Not because it is a fair thing
[6:07] to do, but because it's the right thing
to do. In order for that board to
[6:12] effectively protect all of Marian County
as well as allowing exceptions to the
[6:17] current regulations, it is imperative
that they review all aspects of the
[6:21] proposal as well as how those proposals
deviate from existing regulations.
[6:27] Further, if if members of that
commission are not allowed to hear all
[6:31] the facts of the case, they cannot f
fulfill their legal ob obligation. I
[6:36] would contend that attempting to thwart
those questions and or failure to
[6:41] disclose all the facts of the case is
the actual attack on the process and the
[6:46] duty of that board in general. And
all that is spelled out in KSA
[6:53] 19-2960
[6:56] um which states that their legal duty is
to get all the facts
[7:06] Thank you.
[7:10] » Okay, close public forum. Move on to
agenda approval. [snorts] Any additions
[7:15] or corrections or
>> Yeah, I'd like to add an executive for
[7:21] contract negotiations.
[7:34] Anything else?
Like to make a motion approve the
[7:39] agenda.
>> I'll make a motion to approve as
[7:41] amended.
>> Second.
[7:43] » Okay. Moved by Commissioner Durk, second
by Commissioner Holl. Any other
[7:48] discussion? If not, all in favor?
>> I
[7:53] 5.
>> Five. He's there. You're there, right?
[7:56] » I'm here.
[8:00] » Okay. Administrative.
>> Okay.
[8:05] First we have some change orders.
[8:31] » [clears throat]
[8:41] » I don't know. I'll just take shift.
[8:47] Those
[8:55] were in your packet that you didn't see.
They'd be on the back side of that.
[9:35] » [snorts]
>> Okay, we have early checks in the amount
[9:38] of $29,3910.
[9:42] Any questions
[9:48] on that?
>> Approve.
[9:51] » Go ahead.
>> Motion to approve.
[9:54] » Oh, I had a question.
>> Oh,
[9:57] » that are we waiting on cost share funds
back from the stream bank stabilization?
[10:03] » Those come as a reimbursement. So, we
pay it and then um
[10:07] » we're paying it out of capital
improvement so that it doesn't affect
[10:11] the run bridge budget and then we put
we'll put the reimbursement in that same
[10:15] fund so it's easy to see where it
>> okay
[10:18] » how it was paid and then reimbursed. We
won't receive 100% [clears throat]
[10:20] reimbursement.
>> Right.
[10:22] » Any other questions?
Jonah, you got a motion?
[10:28] » Yes, sir. [clears throat]
>> Okay. Motion made to approve the
[10:33] warrants amount of 209,30930910.
[10:38] » Seconded by Commissioner Dirks. Any
other discussion? If not, all in favor?
[10:42] » I
>> I
[10:46] apologize the minutes did not get into
the packet. So, I will just add those to
[10:50] next week if that's okay with you guys.
[10:55] » Perfect.
>> Okay. In your packet, you had my report
[10:59] from uh dated September 4th. Do does
anybody have questions?
[11:06] » This eye works.
Um when this was brought to us a couple
[11:11] months ago, it was the next greatest
thing and [snorts]
[11:15] it was going to save us a lot of money
and it seems like every couple weeks
[11:21] we're paying more money for this. We
need another piece of it, it looks like,
[11:26] in order to make it work, right?
Correct.
[11:28] » Um, I guess my my question is
[11:36] could this [clears throat] company
identify all our needs at the at the
[11:40] outset?
Department staff did believe that they
[11:44] had all of the information. Um
[11:50] just an update on that statement on the
um the maps
[11:57] that I think that staff uh through some
persistent effort has been able to get
[12:03] the shape files from our current vendor.
Um they weren't releasing them but I
[12:08] think now they have and so that we
shouldn't have to get that map layer but
[12:13] I need to confirm that.
>> Okay. So
[12:16] » in the long run, uh, Commissioner Dirks,
it'll still be much less expensive.
[12:20] [clears throat]
>> This was just another $10,000.
[12:23] And
>> Right.
[12:24] » And I just wonder what's going to be two
weeks from now. What what what the next
[12:27] layer is going to be and what [snorts]
>> um
[12:30] » yeah, that has been a source of
frustration, but we're still well under
[12:35] the previous program's cost, but I
believe that that will not be a cost
[12:40] now. that um I was just trying to kind
of keep you all in the loop, but I think
[12:45] that we are going to be able to bypass
that.
[12:47] » Okay,
>> any other questions?
[12:51] » We appreciate you staying on top of that
because you know when we when we approve
[12:55] an amount, I think most the commission
thinks that's what it's going to be, but
[12:59] » right
>> with technology, who knows?
[13:09] » Anything else, Tina? Um, no. I just want
making sure I didn't have any other
[13:12] questions about my report.
>> Okay.
[13:15] » The mid-continent restoration.
>> How was that?
[13:23] » How was
>> How's that going? Are they about done or
[13:26] » um They
didn't see anybody working today. So,
[13:31] » they were here. They were here today um
working. They're I think they're making
[13:36] good progress. They have um I don't
know. I've took a few pictures of them
[13:40] like way up high on that tall chimney
working. Um, so they've they've been at
[13:44] it. They've also got the entryways on
the north side, the interior entryways
[13:49] where we were having moisture. Um,
previously that moisture has been taken
[13:53] care of and then they were repairing the
inside which was part of their contract
[13:57] that was approved last um
the last time we approved something for
[14:03] them. But I haven't talked to Kevin
today, so I don't know. the time frame
[14:09] of when they'll be complete, but I would
expect probably by the end of next week.
[14:14] » Is there some work
>> or this week excite
[14:17] where that's kind of dark up there that
I don't think ever really got cleaned?
[14:23] » Um,
[14:26] so on the south side we had moisture
intrusion,
[14:30] » right? And then we had some uh so Hutton
came and they took care of the moisture
[14:36] intrusion because Midcontinent wasn't
able to get to it right away. And so the
[14:42] what they did was they had to fill in
mortar and around the window and in the
[14:49] cracks.
>> Okay. And I believe that that corner,
[14:52] that indentation
should be
[14:58] the way that it was when we did the
north side.
[15:02] The the indentation part was included
with the north. So I think that that
[15:07] will be included when we do the south
face.
[15:12] » But I'd have to review that that scope
of work again. It's been quite a few
[15:16] months since that was approved for the
for the east side.
[15:20] » So,
>> um, one one other question. Couple
[15:25] months ago after this
storm, we were we were waiting on damage
[15:30] assessments from KPM. What where are we
at in that process? Has they gotten
[15:34] anything back to us yet? they [laughter]
they [clears throat] got an initial
[15:38] report back to us and so um we have
additional scope that we're trying to
[15:44] get them to look at because we believe
that the scope that they have um is
[15:54] potentially on this building with water
intrusion is not sufficient. So that
[15:58] they were here um Friday to take a look
at that and the jail. And then what
[16:03] we're doing now, I think I had put
something on the uh report maybe last
[16:09] week, but what we're doing now is we're
getting um estimates from contractors
[16:16] for the different roofing and all of
that. So to see what the what the
[16:20] differences would be just like we did
with the vehicles. So
[16:25] » can you provide that report to us?
>> Uh sure.
[16:32] [clears throat]
[16:47] » Any other questions?
[16:53] » Okay.
[17:00] Um,
in your packet was is the draft of the
[17:05] reduced full-time employee
classification. Um, that would be
[17:10] potentially ready for approval if the
board so chooses to do that.
[17:15] » Everyone had a chance to review that,
look it over.
[17:21] It's pretty straightforward based on the
information that we had prior.
[17:30] » You had a chance to review it, Jonah?
>> Oh, yeah. It looks fine to me. It It
[17:36] allows a little bit of flexibility. Um,
I'll make a motion to
[17:41] accept and implement HR policy for
reduced time or reduce full-time
[17:47] employee.
[17:51] Okay, we have a motion on the table to
accept the the new HR policy on a
[17:57] reduced time.
>> I'll second that. Is there any other
[18:01] further discussion?
Not all in favor.
[18:07] » I I
[18:11] » Okay. And then I had on the
administrative uh on the action items
[18:15] memorandum of understanding for Doyle
Creek wershed uh mitigation project and
[18:19] the corresponding resolution. Uh those
um your county counselor decided that he
[18:27] would wait until he's here and present
those. So we do not have that today.
[18:32] [snorts]
[18:36] So, that was all that I have on my
administrative.
[18:41] » Before you all move on, can I get your
signatures for the checks?
[18:46] » Jonah, can I use your stamp?
[18:51] » Yep.
>> Thank you.
[18:53] » Yes.
[19:28] Anything
[19:36] else
we have time to do? How much time do you
[19:41] need on your contract negotiation?
>> So I guess my question on that we can
[19:45] close for employer employee
negotiations.
[19:49] We can do contract negotiation with the
attorney present. Um, but I don't know
[19:55] that we can just go in for contract
negotiation.
[19:59] » Other than that, does it fit into one of
>> We can do an open session.
[20:04] » Okay. Does it fit under employer
employee negotiation, contract
[20:08] negotiation? Okay.
[20:13] » You have time to get that done before
1:00.
[20:21] » Yeah. It's it should take I mean 10
minutes with body time.
[20:27] » Okay, we'll move contract
discussion.
[20:30] » We can't do that
>> without the attorney present.
[20:35] [snorts]
>> Well, you were talking about open
[20:38] session. I think he's just talking about
moving it up in the
[20:41] » I just I'm talking about moving it up
till right now since you said it didn't
[20:44] need it was didn't need to happen. I I I
I mean I I personally think it should be
[20:49] open session, but um because we we've
talked about it
[20:55] previously, but
um I can't remember if it was open
[20:59] session or [snorts]
[21:02] » are we
we're not talking about any specific
[21:07] individual involved in a contract
negotiation. Correct. We're talking
[21:12] about a contract with a specific
Actually, we're it's a request for
[21:16] proposals.
[21:19] » Okay.
>> Okay. We'll go with it.
[21:23] » Okay. Yep. Um
back in January, February, we talked
[21:28] about uh initiating a new request for
proposals for our county counselor.
[21:34] Um I felt at that time that we agreed
that we would proceed with that. Maybe
[21:41] I'm mistaken.
[snorts]
[21:46] » Do you recall? Did we request an RFP?
>> You you Yes, you did talk about it and
[21:53] um it was my understanding you were
moving forward and then I believe that
[21:56] you visited with the county counselor
and that was put on hold at that time.
[22:00] So, um [clears throat] I am
that's where I am with it. I it was I
[22:07] was it was my understanding that
talking about
[22:13] » in discussion. I remember that
discussion.
[22:19] » I can't remember the specific. I I'm
just concerned,
[22:24] you know,
[22:38] you know, he he provides us a letter
>> stating that he's reviewed approved
[22:45] the bills and warrants
[22:51] » twice in the last year. He's provided
that letter when there no were no early
[22:55] checks to
to approve. And so I have to question
[23:00] whether he's actually
I mean if if he actually looked at it
[23:06] and there was no bills in the in the
packet, why would he send a letter?
[23:11] » Right. And I think that is a good
question for him when he's here.
[23:16] » But if the board wants to discuss moving
forward [clears throat] whether to move
[23:19] forward or not with an RFP, you could
certainly vote on it and and I would be
[23:24] happy to do whatever the board directs.
[23:31] I would make a motion to move forward
with an RFP for the county council
[23:35] position.
>> Okay, there's a motion on the table to
[23:40] uh request RFP for county council.
>> There a second
[23:49] hear me? Okay, Jonah.
>> Yeah, I can hear you.
[23:53] » Okay.
[23:58] Did you have a second?
>> We have no second.
[24:04] » I'll second it.
>> Okay. Uh been moved
[24:11] and
seconded
[24:14] to request uh going ahead with the RFP
for county council. Is there any other
[24:21] discussion?
I think I need a little background
[24:25] again.
>> Uh back in was that did you say Jan
[24:31] January? January, February,
>> we talked we talked with county council
[24:35] about some issues that we had and I
think we both it appeared to me at the
[24:41] time we both got on the same page and uh
instead we would plan to do an RFP
[24:49] to try to get bids for a new county
council. At that time I think we decided
[24:54] to
we didn't really drop it. put it on hold
[25:00] and since then it is not it has not
backed up.
[25:05] I guess my my only thought is I I would
like to have county council sitting
[25:10] here.
So, you know, we can address any
[25:15] concerns we have.
Maybe
[25:21] » go ahead and vote on it. Maybe go ahead
and vote on it at that time.
[25:27] that wouldn't exempt him from being on
again
[25:33] » unless we
excluded
[25:37] » I I had no intention of that but
>> I was there
[25:42] » I mean
>> also also running the
[25:47] right now he's
>> he's contracted for a certain dollar
[25:51] amount um you run the risk I guess
nobody
[25:57] else applying our RFP. We are in a
attorney shortage
[26:04] and then all we wind up doing is paying
him more,
[26:09] » right? It's always that chance.
>> Really?
[26:13] » And then I was going to like, you know,
scope expectations.
[26:18] » Well, I think we've I think we've
addressed our expectations
[26:22] several times. So,
may I address Commissioner Hollow? So,
[26:29] if I draft an RFP, that will then come
back to the board to review the scope
[26:35] before it's sent out
>> because the the request for proposals
[26:39] would include
>> discussion on the scope of
[26:42] » Yes, the scope would be included in that
document. And so then the board would
[26:47] have the ability to review that document
and approve it before it's sent out. And
[26:52] he would still be well he could bid if
he
[26:55] se show bid but
>> yeah he could he could bid on it again.
[27:01] » Well I would like to at least see you
know discuss the scope and expectations.
[27:07] I'm not again I'm new to this. I'm not
sure where we are.
[27:10] » I think he I think he he knows what the
scope and expectations are.
[27:16] We've had several conversations.
[27:24] But
>> why I'm talking
[27:25] » before we do that, I personally I'd
rather him be sitting here and saying
[27:30] we're going to put out RFP
[27:37] unless unless we come to some conclusion
that we are satisfied
[27:46] and that's the only reason that I would
vote against it today. [clears throat]
[27:51] But we have we do have a motion and a
second.
[27:56] Any more discussion?
[28:00] Mike.
>> Okay. Okay. All in favor?
[28:06] » I
>> I
[28:09] » All against I
feels 32.
[28:16] » I think we can bring that back up.
council's here.
[28:19] » When the council's here, I'd like this
readress it again when the council's
[28:24] here.
>> That's my consensus.
[28:29] » Okay, we're ready for one:00.
>> Okay, we we're about to have flooded you
[28:34] with a whole bunch of people.
>> Oh my goodness.
[28:42] [clears throat]
[28:49] That doesn't mean people have to leave.
It's going to have to squeeze in a
[28:53] little bit more.
[28:56] » Come on in, folks.
>> Enough chairs for everyone.
[29:00] » Yeah, stand up.
>> There are seats there and here. Here.
[29:06] And if anyone is brave and wants to sit
right here, it's a really comfortable
[29:09] chair. [laughter]
>> A hot and easy chair. That one's wired
[29:14] electricity. [laughter]
[29:25] » Yeah.
[29:36] » Well, welcome everyone to Marian County
Commission. Pleased to have you here
[29:40] today. Uh, I [snorts] think we can start
out and we can introduce ourselves to
[29:44] you and you introduce yourselves to us.
Uh,
[29:49] starting out Ashley.
>> Ashley Herpic, the county clerk.
[29:55] » Tina Spencer, Marian County
Administrator.
[29:58] » Ken Becker, county commission, first
district.
[30:01] » Dan, county commissioner, fourth
district.
[30:04] » Clark TS, county commissioner, third
district. Mike Beny, second district
[30:09] commissioner.
>> You there Jonah?
[30:11] » Jonah.
>> Jonah Garing Maring County District 5.
[30:15] » Okay,
>> welcome. We'll let you introduce
[30:19] yourselves.
[clears throat] Starting Terry over
[30:22] there maybe.
>> Terry Bieber. I'm director of families
[30:26] and communities together fact.
>> I'm Mary Lou Eman. I just moved here
[30:31] from Arizona.
>> Lisa Schaefer. I own LNL Cleaning
[30:35] Service and uh a couple of other
businesses, the bike shop in Hillsboro
[30:39] and I'm on the leadership committee.
>> Jared Ya. I live in Hillsboro and I'm on
[30:43] the committee.
>> Christa Schneider, uh committee member.
[30:49] Tristan Kilp, I'm committee member as
well.
[30:53] » Turk, committee member. Member
>> Mark Rogers, citizen.
[30:58] » Uh Jana McClendon, citizen of Marian.
Katie Spencer, EMS provider with Marian
[31:04] County EMS.
>> Alicia Stuc, I'm the director of the
[31:07] Maran Historical Museum.
>> Haley Deacon from Marian County Planning
[31:11] and Zoning.
>> Uh Dan Schaefer from uh Marian County
[31:16] Emergency Management and Health
Department.
[31:19] » Okay, we got everybody. Welcome.
[31:24] » Thanks for having us today.
>> I guess I guess this is just an open
[31:27] forum, so just don't ask us something we
don't know. [laughter]
[31:33] So, we're questions.
>> Steve, anybody [clears throat] ready?
[31:38] » Oh, thank you. Um,
assuming all of you just weren't born
[31:44] onto the commission or, you know,
obviously were elected. What's something
[31:47] you would want the public to know that
you thought was a lot different from
[31:51] when you were first running for office
versus when you were actually on the
[31:56] commission?
[32:00] Well, I can guess I can start out. You
learn to be a lot better listener
[32:06] and and you really have to because
[snorts] we're all lay people. We don't
[32:11] have all the answers. And so we talk to
a lot of constituents.
[32:17] A lot of them have differing opinions
and you try you try to work out what's
[32:23] best for county as a whole.
Jump in guys
[32:32] say you spend a lot of time going after
elusive perfect answer to a problem.
[32:38] There is no such thing.
No matter what you do, somebody's going
[32:42] to be upset. Somebody's going to be
pleased.
[32:46] Somebody will think you're out of your
mind. I mean, there's all kinds. You're
[32:50] going to ask three people and you'll get
five opinions. There's just a lot of
[32:55] give and [clears throat] take and it
takes a lot of time. try to take
[32:59] everything in consideration. But yeah,
there is no perfect answers for anything
[33:06] that you ask people what their priority
is and again depending you live in town,
[33:13] you live in a country, you live north,
you live south, there's a lot of
[33:17] variance. There's just no perfect
answers. You just do the best you can
[33:24] and you don't make a lot of friends
very popular people
[33:33] learn to listen. Um I I' I've made a lot
of friends so [laughter]
[33:41] made some enemies too but I've made a
lot of friends. So,
[33:47] well,
one of our hardest issues is still
[33:51] employees for the county as well as any
business within our county.
[33:57] That's probably been the hardest part to
successfully do anything that would help
[34:01] that much
that I thought hopefully would be
[34:05] easier.
I enlist a few meetings again. We had
[34:09] more unfunded mandates just in the year
and a half I've been on.
[34:14] Maybe some grants or something that
aren't available anymore that have
[34:18] funded some of our projects and how to
fix that. If you got any suggestions,
[34:23] you're welcome to talk to me at any
time.
[34:27] And
I think the leadership program was good
[34:30] for me as well as anybody that I've went
to a lot of the graduations whether it's
[34:35] the youth side or the adult side and
everybody took some really good thoughts
[34:40] from it. Jared was one that even got on
the committee
[34:45] it
hopefully he's brought you some
[34:49] highlight points for you to dwell on. I
guess might be the future and Anything
[34:56] [snorts]
[35:00] you guys can come up with a suggestion
to make any of our departments better,
[35:04] the county better or community schools
better, the fire department or any other
[35:09] small item. Some of the small things is
what we can tackle and make the most
[35:14] difference is that may turn into a lot
bigger thing once it
[35:18] » one will evolve into the other in time.
That's about what I would have to say.
[35:23] And I think you're just new to the road
bridge correctly in case
[35:27] » I am. I am brand new.
>> The secretary out there and I think
[35:30] she's
>> learning. I think I visited with her a
[35:34] while back and
>> everybody's glad to have her out there.
[35:37] I think
>> uh how much time do you guys on a weekly
[35:43] or monthly basis do you devote to this
endeavor? You mean hourswise, dayswise?
[35:52] » Yeah, hours wise.
>> During the You mean during during the
[35:55] course of the week?
>> Yeah. During the course of the week,
[35:57] » it could for me it could vary anywhere
from
[36:02] eight hours to
30 hours.
[36:06] » You know, depend it kind of depends on
the issues you're dealing with and what
[36:09] kind of contacts you have to make and
what kind of information you got to seek
[36:13] out. We're blessed. We've got a good
county administrative. She she provides
[36:18] until she came we were doing much much
more research
[36:23] » more
>> I mean she's kind of taken the lead on
[36:26] that so that has been very very helpful
>> just because then that way she can
[36:33] maintain the kind of contact she needs
to to search out that research.
[36:40] Yeah, it's not it's uh
it can be it can be as much as you want
[36:46] it to be. Really? [laughter]
[36:50] » Yeah.
>> I agree with Ken on that. That Yeah, it
[36:57] it'll be what you want it to be. There's
plenty
[37:01] you can occupy yourself all week if you
wanted to. Sometimes it's not a matter.
[37:06] I mean, you just got to look into
things. Mhm.
[37:09] » You just get a snippet here in a meeting
then.
[37:11] » Sure.
>> Something comes forward and then you end
[37:15] up with more questions than answers and
you got to start looking. You got to
[37:18] wait and then you try contact people for
opinions and stuff like that and
[37:24] sometimes you got to go around you know
roads different issues. Sure.
[37:29] » Go around and actually see for yourself.
>> So yeah, it's a lot more time than just
[37:35] this meeting. It all doesn't happen
here. No,
[37:39] » it's usually just gives you a starting
point, too.
[37:42] » Awesome.
>> I'm curious. You come up here for cooler
[37:45] weather?
>> Um, as a matter of fact, no.
[37:49] » Quality of life, right? [laughter]
>> I'm sorry.
[37:52] » Quality of life.
>> Absolutely.
[37:56] » Absolutely. I think it's kind of
humorous some of the meetings that I've
[38:00] gone to and and such, you know, and and
I'll be sitting by a commissioner from
[38:08] an urban area and they want to know
where my office is if it's on the second
[38:13] or third floor of the Maring County
Courthouse.
[38:17] It's downstairs way down [laughter]
called a furniture. No. So that's kind
[38:23] of humorous to me because they all have
offices.
[38:28] » Hey, welcome to Kansas.
>> There's spare room in the attic, Ken.
[38:32] [laughter]
>> Yeah, it's not hot up there at all. I've
[38:35] I've been there.
>> Not hot. Not hot at all. [laughter]
[38:42] » But Jonah, I'd be curious about your
answer to the question. What's different
[38:45] than what you thought it was going to
be?
[38:50] Uh mine pretty uh I mean I I came from
the city council so I kind of expected a
[38:56] little bit of the same just move the
decimal point. The uh but the other part
[39:02] was
a lot of times we all have a common goal
[39:07] but there is a vast difference in how we
get there sometimes and that's that
[39:15] seems to be the struggle that I wasn't
expecting.
[39:25] Mine would be could I put a two or three
time limit on anybody that calls it
[39:30] would help my day be shorter.
I've had some as long as over 50 minutes
[39:37] several [snorts] 30 to 40 minutes. And
if you're busy doing something, it is
[39:43] likely hangups. That's about what you
got to do once in a while.
[39:48] And I'm glad they're calling me, but it
shouldn't take that long to express
[39:52] their point of view and move on. I guess
that's something I really didn't expect
[39:57] either.
Continue that long on a discussion on
[40:01] the phone.
[40:05] » I spend as much time as it takes
>> and yeah, I was going to lead into that
[40:11] one. Uh
when CO I I first two weeks of CO I
[40:17] probably clocked 80 hours
um just doing this. Um
[40:23] it's it was unreal. It was it was
something unprecedented. Something we
[40:28] weren't nobody really knew at the time.
Uh then other times it's it's you know
[40:37] a phone call here and there and it's
really not a lot. So I I mean what Kent
[40:43] said it it it kind of depends on the
issues.
[40:50] » More question.
>> I've taken several good thank you phone
[40:54] calls too for something that we address.
So you like to see that part of it. Can
[41:00] you share with us the most difficult
issue in Marian County to deal with?
[41:05] » Give me about 10.
[laughter]
[41:10] » We can I don't know that you could limit
it to one.
[41:14] We've [clears throat] had major issues
in this county, you know, over the
[41:18] years. You know, prior to me, it was
landfill and then it was, you know, then
[41:24] you had wind farms,
uh, other other things that have arisen.
[41:31] Uh, COVID was big, uh, like Mike brought
up.
[41:36] uh staffing staffing our departments was
kind of a nightmare for a couple of
[41:42] years. You know, I would try to keep
right trying to keep departments open,
[41:48] » you know, because people still needed to
needed service.
[41:52] » So, you know, in the midst of where a
lot of businesses shut down that you
[41:57] can't shut down government
just can't. So, you know, we were
[42:03] blessed with enough technology that we
could at least have a couple of people
[42:08] here and maybe a couple people online
working and th those kind of things. So,
[42:14] you know, that was
we we met in this room every week week
[42:20] during co.
[42:24] » Is there one particular department
that's hard to staff or is that all the
[42:29] way? Well, we've had shortages in just
about every department. I mean, it's
[42:34] it's not it's not critical anymore,
though. We've we've kind of gotten
[42:37] caught up. We're always still looking
for good the right people.
[42:42] » You know, probably Sheriff's Department
is probably the
[42:47] open needs at this point as much as
anybody if I'm not mistaken.
[42:51] » It's part of that having the budget to
get good people in. Well, it's a big
[42:56] part of it because when COVID came
along, uh
[43:02] salaries, hourly wages, everything
spiked
[43:06] » working from home.
>> I mean, some people were changed.
[43:10] » Yeah.
>> I mean, uh there was some people that
[43:12] were doubling their wages during during
CO, I'm not saying countywise wide, but
[43:18] in a variety of occupations around the
country and basically doing it from
[43:23] home. And some of them to this day are
doing it from home.
[43:28] So
>> yeah, Jared, [laughter]
[43:31] » well, my wages didn't double. I mean,
Jared's a good example. That's that's an
[43:36] occupation that can be.
>> Yes.
[43:39] » You know, but during co we were kind of
trying to do it where it didn't work all
[43:44] that great.
>> And we're we're glad that somebody like
[43:46] Jared did stay and come back and
[clears throat] stay in our area. Well,
[43:50] it's nice because like a job like that's
portable, so people can move back here
[43:54] to take care of their folks or whatever.
>> They don't displace anybody. Like I pump
[43:59] Arkansas money into our economy.
>> I didn't displace anybody from a job.
[44:03] And in the next 10 years, I think you'll
see a lot more of that
[44:06] » in communities of this size.
>> You know, and that's one reason the
[44:09] high-speed internet has been so critical
to get established in the county. Of
[44:14] course, we talked about Obama money
years ago for Tri County took that on
[44:20] and we had highspeed internet in our
real area for over 20 some almost 25
[44:25] years. We still have some areas in our
county that doesn't doesn't have it.
[44:32] Somebody's vision to move forward with
something that's really center school
[44:36] district wouldn't exist without it.
>> Yeah. A lot of people think that's
[44:40] silly, but they don't realize what a
boon it is for the small communities for
[44:44] people to be able to move back here
remotely and have fiber internet.
[44:49] » It actually almost is like having
another industry
[44:54] » because people can move move here and
work out from home.
[44:58] » Now, whether AI is going to ruin it
[laughter]
[45:01] is still a big topic.
>> So, what's your biggest joy at being a
[45:05] county commissioner?
[45:10] Mine is getting mine is getting to meet
people. I got one of these. [laughter]
[45:16] » You know, I've gotten I've gotten to
I've gotten to know a lot of people that
[45:20] I probably wouldn't ever have known
other than they look familiar.
[45:26] So, you know, that to me that's a that's
been a blessing because there's some
[45:32] really good people around and you you
really you know who they were, but you
[45:35] didn't know anything about them. Well, I
found out I was a pretty good guy,
[45:38] really nice lady,
and really cares about others.
[45:44] I think it's I think it's mostly about
community to me.
[45:50] » With Mark's help, I can turn a laptop on
for the first time in my [laughter]
[45:55] life.
>> So, a few years ago when we were here,
[45:59] and I was a student, not on the
committee, I asked the commissioners
[46:03] that were here, and three of you are
new. So, I'm going to ask the question
[46:05] again. We have a society where a lot of
young people believe that the decision-m
[46:11] is done by a bunch of old white men and
they don't know how to come become
[46:15] involved and don't know that they are
any good if they do become involved.
[46:19] What do you say to them to encourage
them to be a part of the process to be a
[46:23] part of the decision-m and how do we get
them in this room instead of just
[46:27] complaining outside?
I think it starts at home if and
[46:33] handinhand with that it needs to be
empathi emphasized through public
[46:38] schools
and I think there's been a not putting
[46:43] down public schools but then there's
been a failure in that in that area.
[46:48] » It's like civic responsibility.
>> Right.
[46:50] » Right.
>> Yeah. Who's teaching that?
[46:53] » Anybody know there's school in this
county teaching civic responsibility?
[46:58] riches.
>> Maybe
[47:01] » I hear I'm a substitute teacher and I
hear it,
[47:05] » but how well is it being heard,
[47:10] [clears throat]
[47:13] » the young people,
young people, I think getting them in
[47:18] government is critical.
People my age, I got an outlook on life.
[47:24] You know, a 20 year new roof is a
lifetime guarantee for me. Young people
[47:30] in their 20s and 30s just starting.
They're looking 30, 40, 50 years. Where
[47:36] am I going to be?
I I don't want to trash old people being
[47:41] one, but you got a limited scope here.
You're just trying to get through the
[47:45] next 10, 15, 20 years or whatever. And
you just look at things differently. And
[47:52] going back to the original statement,
biggest choice, young people have some
[47:57] great ideas.
Their problem is they got jobs. They're
[48:02] raising families. They're taking kids to
ball games. I mean, they're so busy just
[48:07] trying to keep food on the table,
clothes on the kids, schools. They don't
[48:12] have time for a lot of this.
It's a shame because that's where the
[48:17] ideas are.
It's just a there's a whole different
[48:21] perspective.
And uh we've got some young people in
[48:25] zoning, moved to get some young people.
We made some great strides with young
[48:30] people getting in some of these
positions.
[48:34] Um
my experience, my experience, I was in
[48:38] the Navy. You come to find out, you
listen to the young kids,
[48:43] everybody was in, well, we've always
done it this way. Young kids don't think
[48:46] like that. They got no new ideas
and I mean they can just
[48:53] start a spark and then it sort of grows.
Well, yeah, we can do this differently,
[48:58] whatever. But
getting young people in the government,
[49:02] especially you look at the feds,
we need some young blood people that
[49:06] think differently, ask questions,
but they also have suggestions. They
[49:11] don't just come out grabbing a lot of
them. They'll not only identify a
[49:16] problem, they'll tell you how you can
fix it. If you think about it a while,
[49:21] they'll come up with some pretty good
ideas. Just get involved, getting the
[49:24] conversation going.
I think it's important. So on that,
[49:30] young people need to be in this. I wish
there's some way we could get them more
[49:34] active. six people that see the youth
leadership and you've all seen
[49:39] » some good ideas and some of them have
even got on the committee you for the
[49:44] adult or for the whole program
>> and have been a blessing to their
[49:49] thoughts and ideas if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, we had
[49:52] » I said something here a while back or at
the last dinner was three of my
[49:56] neighbors kids have been on this and
came back to be on the committee with
[50:03] that and the pride pride three of my
neighbor kids are on that committee just
[50:10] how proud that and if you go back to
their grandmother with 4 and all she
[50:14] gave for leadership as young in our day
50 some or 60 years ago starting in 4
[50:22] and everything she put up. Not everybody
can take the dedication and the time
[50:26] that some of them had in the past, but
we've still got to encourage that young
[50:30] person to take that lead. Like I said, I
couldn't be any prouder of my neighbors
[50:36] kids that have flourished with this
speech, the the junior leadership
[50:40] program.
>> Thanks to all of you. So,
[50:44] » but the cool thing is is that it's just
like the adult program. They're only
[50:48] with us for five days.
You know, I mean, we have them every
[50:52] other week for 10 weeks. We have them
for five days, but it makes that much of
[50:56] an impact on them, which is so
>> I don't know that anybody's been through
[51:01] the program that put it down much from
what I've seen. So,
[51:04] » that what
>> that have put the program down.
[51:06] » Yes.
>> Even one couple that's basically retired
[51:11] and
>> took the leadership program this last
[51:15] time in their what
>> retirement age. and I as husband and
[51:19] wife and had positive things after
raising our kids being here in this
[51:25] county their entire life still took some
good thoughts from the programs
[51:33] and I hope we get people to encourage
and can keep it up in the future.
[51:37] Some of that you know just what you guys
can instill in them is very important.
[51:43] comes up for all your efforts.
[51:48] » Do either of the other commissioners
have anything on that on
[51:53] » Well, it's important.
>> I just got called
[51:58] » It's important to get
>> I just got called an old white guy. So I
[52:01] I'm
>> Well, I was going to exclude you, but I
[52:04] figured why. [laughter]
[52:07] » Don't become friends with
>> Every time she says that, I'm sitting
[52:10] right next to her. It's like,
>> Lisa, what do you consider as old?
[52:14] » Well, I'm just telling you at the time I
originally asked that question, and you
[52:18] guys can remember this because this was
like 2022 or 23. That was the
[52:22] terminology that was being used during
elections. You don't want to keep voting
[52:26] for the old white guys. It just kept
getting and so that's why I said it
[52:29] then, but it seems to spur people on.
So, I'm gonna keep saying [laughter]
[52:33] » we may be old black guys, but we think
we think we're way younger.
[52:38] » I think Commissioner Dirks was going to
say something.
[52:40] » Sorry.
>> Okay. Um,
[52:44] it's not just about getting the youth
involved. What I see is the public in
[52:49] general doesn't want to get involved in
policy in in government. And
[52:55] if you don't get involved, you can't
complain,
[52:58] » right?
>> That's why I ran.
[53:02] Um because
I didn't feel like
[53:08] the public's concerns were being
addressed. And so I decided to make a
[53:12] difference. And it takes not just young
people, but
[53:17] middle-aged white guys,
young women, old women, everybody to get
[53:22] involved and and step up and speak out
and
[53:30] you know, whether you
elect
[53:34] men
or 30 year old women,
[53:39] if you don't get involved, they're not
going to do you're not going to be happy
[53:43] with what they do because they're going
to they're going to fall back to their
[53:50] their preferences and their but until
the public stands up, young and old
[53:56] alike and holds them accountable,
you can't complain about government.
[54:04] And that's why I ran. and I try to
listen to the public and and
[54:12] address the issues that that they want
addressed.
[54:21] A former wife of mine said it wasn't
bitching, it was boosting.
[54:26] So, anybody that wants to boost a good
thought, you're welcome. come talk to
[54:31] it.
[54:35] » I think people if they if they love our
country and they're patriotic,
[54:38] [clears throat]
they're going to want to serve.
[54:42] That just comes along with with being
patriotic and loving our nation. And we
[54:47] have a problem with that right now
[clears throat] nationwide.
[54:53] So it does we need to encourage we need
to encourage those that really feel like
[54:58] can step up.
>> What's interesting um can was we we go
[55:04] through during the leadership portion we
do a kind of a class portion or class
[55:09] section about leadership or just
different things that we're learning
[55:11] about from Kansas Leadership Center is
where we taking this information from
[55:15] and we do an activity called the gap.
So, we talk about our concerns about our
[55:19] community and then our aspirations and
then what's getting in the way. And
[55:24] after this morning, we did our concerns
and our aspirations and it was very
[55:29] similar to what each of you just spoke
to there and kind of going back to
[55:32] Lisa's question that she just asked
which Lisa wasn't even at her this
[55:36] morning session but I've been there
before. That's a very connected um thing
[55:40] that we're kind of talking about and I'm
hoping that those in the class you're
[55:43] kind of hearing some of the same themes
that our county commission is also
[55:47] expressing too as concerns and
aspirations and then what are ways that
[55:51] we can get there? What are those
aspirations um and our concerns and how
[55:56] can we build the bridge from those
concerns to those aspirations? So, how
[55:59] do we get youth involved and engaged?
How do we have neighborly and compassion
[56:03] and empathy back in our own county and
what does that look like? And so I've
[56:07] hope this is kind of giving you a little
bit of a jump start to thinking through
[56:10] what are ways that we can be engaged and
involved
[56:15] » just in taking it several year a few
years ago but just seeing it on the
[56:19] board get a list of reasons and what it
was even just a year or two's prior
[56:26] class and well nobody's fixed it yet so
>> we need to look at how to fix it if they
[56:32] couldn't fix I mean
>> throw out anything that might better it
[56:35] or make it better fix it. I mean, it's
still you need to think further. Think
[56:42] further outside the box.
>> Don't be scared to throw any suggestion
[56:45] out there that you would look at on
>> Well, the alternate is true, too,
[56:49] because we had one of our biggest
problems the year that that I was in the
[56:53] course was daycare. We just did not have
a space that would take on additional
[56:58] daycare.
And now we have the Hillsboro daycare
[57:01] center that was basically formulated at
the time we were discussing that. And I
[57:06] think that I have seen more of that
happening since I've been a member on
[57:10] the committee of things that we we keep
them in the forefront. So like right now
[57:15] I know there's a business proposal out
there to talk about non-emergency
[57:18] medical transportation that was
formulated in my head years ago, but
[57:22] until I realized other people saw it as
a need, I didn't keep thinking about it.
[57:26] I didn't I just thought it was something
I saw and because I was working within
[57:29] the community of elderly people and
taking care of people that always seem
[57:33] to need that kind of help.
>> One of our first daycare centers was at
[57:36] Florence and it has not been able to
sustain itself and always not operating
[57:42] » this past [clears throat] since start
school year or maybe last summer
[57:45] » two years ago. Yeah. So that's sad that
somebody went to a lot of effort yet it
[57:50] failed
>> and you would think from [clears throat]
[57:53] and from the location it'd be ideal.
>> We don't know why it failed.
[57:58] » Yes. I a lot of it goes back to exactly
some of the same concerns were being
[58:01] brought up here.
>> Staffing was most
[58:03] » staffing. It's how do you get people
engaged? How do you have the the passion
[58:08] or the desire to help others and to be
part of that neighborly community? And
[58:12] how does that how does that work? Um,
and that's what we're continuing to see
[58:15] even at a local level in each of these
different communities.
[58:19] » So, it almost puts a negative that why
would anybody try this again if it it's
[58:24] already failed
>> because somebody out there is going to
[58:26] find that place in the gap that can can
answer some of those problems. And I
[58:30] that's why we keep trying. Um, and I
remember when that was opening up
[58:33] because I took a tour of the building at
the time.
[58:35] » Um, and I think there's a lot the other
problem is that, you know, there are
[58:38] things that you don't think about until
you're in the midst of it, right? So
[58:41] insurance being what it is and going up
and being impossible and and people not
[58:47] having the right kind of educa housing
is a terrible problem.
[58:50] » Utilities, insurance, maintenance of the
building
[58:54] » and again the biggest one was staffing
of that
[58:56] » didn't work very
failed. It just couldn't sustain
[59:00] [clears throat] itself.
>> Yeah.
[59:03] » With a lot of good people putting a lot
of effort.
[59:07] Well, what's interesting from a
historical perspective being the
[59:11] director of the museum is that
throughout the Marian's entire history,
[59:15] it's there have been a ton of failures.
And it's only due to the perseverance
[59:20] of, you know, some really dedicated
citizens who wanted to see Marian
[59:25] flourish and grow that were able to have
things like the Elgen and other things
[59:30] like that. And so
just cuz you fail doesn't mean that it's
[59:34] the end. But you're right, it does take,
you know, dedicated citizens who are
[59:38] willing to put in the work to keep
trying to make something happen.
[59:43] » I would like to speak to that gap for a
moment. You talk about getting more
[59:47] people involved in government. You need
staff on in your offices and just people
[59:52] getting youth involved in government and
civil service and civic activities in
[59:57] their communities. um have just one
minute. I know you're some of you have
[1:00:02] heard of the bridges out of poverty
program. This Ruby Payne, you maybe been
[1:00:05] to a workshop with her. Um the way she
looks at poverty is resources. People
[1:00:12] that are underresourced and people that
are resourced and how do we move people
[1:00:17] from being underresourced into gaining
resources? and her program has evolved
[1:00:22] over the years that they have
communities now that are called bridges
[1:00:26] communities where they brought their
training not just for the people in
[1:00:30] poverty but for the whole community
starting from the commissioners the
[1:00:34] police department the health department
the educators the veterinarians I mean
[1:00:38] everybody farmers citizens whatever
educate them in the philosophy and in
[1:00:44] the viewpoint of bridges to look at
those under look at resources and how to
[1:00:49] what is poverty It's not just money,
it's lack of resources and how do we
[1:00:54] communicate? How do we inspire people
that are underresourced to build
[1:00:57] resources? And it brings your whole
community into talking understanding the
[1:01:02] same language, the same culture, so to
speak. And places like Muscogee,
[1:01:06] Oklahoma have really been big on this
for like 10, 15 years. And so they go
[1:01:10] around and give
[cough and clears throat]
[1:01:11] how to bring that to your community.
There's other ones around the the nation
[1:01:15] that way. And a couple years ago, I had
a dream of doing this in Peabody, but I
[1:01:19] just I was too busy earning money to
really get the leg work going and get
[1:01:23] Peabody more excited about it. Um, but I
was thinking about it this morning,
[1:01:28] Tristan, and we were talking about that
gap. And I would love to come to share
[1:01:32] more with you commissioners about this
sometime.
[1:01:35] » Right now, I'm talking on the back of my
head. It's not right at the front, so
[1:01:37] it's kind of not clear, but
>> that's because you're an old white guy.
[1:01:41] » Yeah.
>> He can't help it.
[1:01:44] » He's not completely white.
[laughter] But that I give an
[1:01:47] endorsement to that book though. I think
we were in the same workshop at Prair
[1:01:51] with Prairie View when they were
teaching us that about that. I had never
[1:01:54] heard of that the concept bridges out of
poverty.
[1:01:58] » So, and I have watched it work in little
pockets of and places even here in our
[1:02:03] own county where there's bridges being
built and resources being offered to
[1:02:08] people that are in a cycle of poverty
because their family's always been poor
[1:02:11] and their family was always poor.
It is worth I think it's really worth
[1:02:15] looking at.
>> Well, even a common goal, even in a
[1:02:18] marriage, if the common goal isn't there
for the couple, they will fail. That's
[1:02:23] all there is to it. And the saying I've
had said, if we don't all work together,
[1:02:28] we'll all fail. And that's still true in
any aspect of [clears throat]
[1:02:34] life in general to
religion or whatever else. If we don't
[1:02:38] all give it our best, we'll all fail.
It's a community
[1:02:45] all ornone situation at times, but it's
got to be a common goal that we all
[1:02:51] agree with to a point to make it work.
>> I think that's kind of a good spot to
[1:02:57] kind of wrap up on. We don't want to
take all of your time today. [laughter]
[1:03:01] » Say one more thing.
>> Yeah,
[1:03:04] » we're using the word community. It's
being used in different aspects here,
[1:03:09] but community is the operative word.
Christ is you'll see community come
[1:03:16] together. All of a sudden, working
miracles, things that you don't see
[1:03:20] daytoday. You know, flood, people
helping each other. And it'd be I think
[1:03:25] we'd be better off if we could expand
that in our day-to-day lives. Think as a
[1:03:30] community. you get thinking in smaller
groups,
[1:03:36] you know, country, city. I mean, just it
breaks down all kinds of different ways.
[1:03:41] We're all in this together. And I spent
a lot of time overseas when I was in the
[1:03:47] Navy and they lack community over there.
I was I never really witnessed that over
[1:03:52] and I think that's the secret of this
country. And then you get to the big
[1:03:56] cities where they're having all the
trouble. There's not really a community
[1:04:01] there. What we have in the central, you
know, rural areas.
[1:04:06] We have comm we can do better, but we do
have community. I think that's why you
[1:04:10] see a we're able to deal with things
better.
[1:04:14] Don't get overwhelmed so much. But
community, I think, is what we should
[1:04:19] strive to be common goals, common, you
know, beliefs and they just need to
[1:04:25] stick together.
We think of county as a community,
[1:04:29] marrying as a community
and I think you need to work that aspect
[1:04:34] of it.
>> It's just all it is is just a different
[1:04:38] way of thinking.
>> One thing that has encouraged me is and
[1:04:42] I've seen this over the last decade.
Almost every community in Marian County
[1:04:47] now has a festival. 10 years ago there
was hardly any.
[1:04:52] And now almost every community has a
festival.
[1:04:56] We found that out because we use
transient guest tax to help support
[1:05:00] that.
So to me that's very encouraging.
[1:05:05] There's actually people saying I guess
these towns are worth saving and it's
[1:05:09] going to take people to come together in
order to do it.
[1:05:13] » Well, thank you all for your time.
>> The leadership committee is touring
[1:05:17] county offices today. So, we have been
all over and now we're headed over to
[1:05:21] the sheriff's office and dispatch and
they'll wrap up with some application
[1:05:25] sessions later today.
>> Best part of
[1:05:28] » Thank you all.
>> Leadership for me was we got fed very
[1:05:31] well [laughter]
>> the time we met.
[1:05:34] » Thank you all.
>> Thank you guys. [clears throat]
[1:05:37] Thank you Jonah.
>> Too long, Dan.
[1:05:40] » Ben
for coffee again.
[1:05:44] » May have to do that.
>> Thank you guys. Thank you neighbor. Good
[1:05:48] to see you again.
>> Takes me a long time to stand.
[1:05:52] » Thanks. Rock and roll.
>> Holl and I became friends over a small
[1:05:57] argument on in the newspaper 25 years
ago. [laughter]
[1:06:01] » Who won?
>> We did.
[1:06:03] » We did. Go. [laughter]
[clears throat]
[1:06:14] » Okay. We have an executive session on
personnel performance.
[1:06:21] I move session executive session in
order to discuss job performance of a
[1:06:25] specific employee pursuant to
KSA75-4319B
[1:06:30] under item number one for personnel
matters of non-elected personnel
[1:06:35] with the board and Tina and tell how
long
[1:06:40] » start with 15 minutes 20 minutes
>> start with 20
[1:06:44] » 20 minutes so that would be uh until 56
with open session to resume back in the
[1:06:52] commission chambers following closed
session.
[1:06:56] » Tina, I don't think I've got the link
for the team's exec.
[1:07:01] » Okay.
Do you want to do it on Teams or do you
[1:07:05] want to call? [clears throat] What would
works best for you? I I can just send
[1:07:07] you one.
>> Yeah,
[1:07:10] » that probably works best.
>> I can hear I can hear everybody on
[1:07:13] Teams.
>> Okay. I'll I'll try to send you
[1:07:15] something here.
>> Okay.
[1:07:20] Okay, we have a motion.
>> I move it.
[1:07:25] » I mean second.
>> Okay. Moved and seconded by Commissioner
[1:07:28] Hall. Any other discussion? Not all in
favor?
[1:07:31] » I I
[1:07:41] executive session, no decisions made. Uh
we're going to go back in. I move that
[1:07:45] we recession the executive session in
order to discuss job performance of a
[1:07:49] specific employee pursuant to KSA 75-439
4319B
[1:07:55] under item number one for personnel
matters of non-elected personnel with
[1:07:59] the board and TINA uh until
210
[1:08:06] with open session to resume back in the
commission chambers following closed
[1:08:10] session.
Second.
[1:08:15] » Any other discussion? If not, all in
favor?
[1:08:18] » I
[1:08:22] remember how to do it right from last
time.
[1:08:26] » Okay.
>> Out of executive session, no action
[1:08:30] taken. Uh, commission comments.
[1:08:36] » I have nothing.
>> You pray for rain yet this week. There
[1:08:42] you go.
>> Pray for rain. That's what my soybeans
[1:08:45] look like today.
>> At least you got some.
[1:08:49] » But it'll dry down to nothing if
>> any outside board reports.
[1:08:55] » If not, I'll make a motion to adjurnn.
>> Second.
[1:08:57] » Second.
Seconded motion.
[1:09:04] » All in favor? I I vote.
[1:09:10] just got on.
[1:09:16] [laughter]
[1:09:19] » Is there a reason to pledge allegiance?
>> Jonah,
[1:09:24] » there is.
>> Can you hear me?
[1:09:28] » Did you vote to adjourn?
>> Yes.
[1:09:32] » You're exercising. I'm exercising.
How surprised