1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,520 and ask Mr. Rogers if he would to open our meeting with a prayer. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,080 » God, we thank you for the opportunity to assemble once again to do the business 3 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:15,679 of the county. Guide our minds and help us to remember to be inspired by all 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,080 those who came before us who work so hard to build Mary and Johnny up. Give 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:27,000 us the wisdom and to continue to do the same. These are things we ask in son 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:27,000 Jesus's name. Amen. Amen. 7 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:33,280 Chairman Tenny is going to be a little bit late. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:38,719 He had something else come up and he'll be here shortly. 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Freedom of information announcement in accordance with the South Carolina code 10 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:47,680 of laws 1976 as amended. The Marian Star Mother's 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Enterprise has been notified the date, time, place, and agenda of this meeting. 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Item four, approval of minutes from August 11th. 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,480 » So moved. >> Second. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,600 » Motion second. Any discussion? All in favor? Motion signify by saying I. 15 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:10,600 » I. >> Oppose. Likewise. The eyes have it. 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Resolutions. 17 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:16,720 » By way of anything new, we have >> ordinances. 18 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:21,840 » Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of council. Uh the first item, third 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:26,880 reading of ordinance 2026-12. We need to hold on that until um the the 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:31,680 company disclosed that public hearing for September the 8th. So we'll do that 21 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:34,799 one then. The remainings are all three first readings. So just to remind you 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,880 and those in attendance, we don't need to take action. Simply reading the title 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:43,759 is sufficient. First reading of ordinance 2026-15, an ordinance to 24 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,920 establish user fees for facilities, businesses, industries, corporations, or 25 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:53,520 persons within Marian County who manufacture, transport, store, produce, 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:58,159 process, or otherwise use hazardous substances in reportable quantities as 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:02,399 defined by section 311 and 312 of the emergency planning and community right 28 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:04,799 to know act and [clears throat] in title three of 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,520 the super fund amendments and reauthorization act and to remove other 30 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:15,280 to approve other matters related there too. Item C, first reading of ordinance 31 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:19,200 2026-16, an ordinance to approve a ground lease 32 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,879 amendment between Marian County and Midtrans Corporation on real property 33 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:28,080 located within the Maring County Airport to prove to approve a hanger lease 34 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,640 amendment between Marian County and Medr Corporation for a hanger located within 35 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:36,239 the Maring County Airport to authorize Maring County Airport Director to sign 36 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:40,720 such amendments or to ratify his prior execution of the same, set forth a 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,840 process for future releasing of airport property and hangers that is more 38 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,920 streamlined without the necessity of adopting a new ordinance each and every 39 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:51,760 time a hanger or ground lease area turns over so long as both the airport 40 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:56,560 director and the county administrator authorize the same and to move to 41 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,120 approve other matters related there too. Item D, first reading of ordinance 42 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,760 2026-17, an ordinance to approve an amendment to 43 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,319 the Maring County noise ordinance to establish certain 44 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:12,239 regulations and requirements for the discharge of fireworks in Marian County 45 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:18,959 and approve to approve other matters related there too. That's all I have. 46 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:24,720 » Thank you, Mr. Attorney. >> Committee reports, 47 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Miss Davis. >> Um, no. um report that as chairman. 48 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:35,519 » All right. Committee number two has no report at this time. 49 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Legal update. >> I don't have anything in the section, 50 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:45,239 sir. >> All right. Mr. Jimmy Ford and Sheriff 51 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,239 Ryan Wallace inspection report. 52 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:58,080 Members of the council by just wanted to come and give you a 53 00:03:56,239 --> 00:04:03,519 eight on our annual space on the board is required at a minimum standards 54 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:10,159 for council on respect which was conducted by the 55 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:16,239 South Carolina Department of Corrections as you recall the minimum standard for 56 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:21,280 local teaching facility South Carolina and 57 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:27,280 moving forward in the director Jimmy Floyd he's here and give 58 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:31,160 you an update on our expectation reports and some concern for 59 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:40,960 thank you for this opportunity council. We have the inspection report before you 60 00:04:38,479 --> 00:04:44,400 now I'm not presenting a new process. on 61 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:49,040 presenting the problem that we've been identified by the department of director 62 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,800 respect fire off the South Carolina association of counties and the 63 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:58,240 nationally recognized consultants hired by the county the different problems 64 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:03,040 reach you need to take action and not delay 65 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:07,919 further first let me go with the good news 66 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:11,360 before discussing the deficiencies and not 67 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:17,919 think it's important to recognize how much progress County has made over the 68 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:23,199 past seven years. In January of 2019 that inspection reported, there were 47 69 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:28,800 identified deficiencies that the detention fund 70 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:32,639 involves corrections and another 39 deficiencies identified by state fire 71 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:38,880 marsh. As of 2024, that number had been reduced 72 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:44,800 to nine. You bought the correction deficiency and four remaining bad fire 73 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:50,880 marsh deficiency. Add up the 2026 report. There are no more fire market 74 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:56,080 deficiency and only four remaining department of correction deficiency. 75 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,080 Over [clears throat] the past several years, Mar County has replaced the 76 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:05,280 facility roof, refurbished showers and bathrooms, deflazed plumbing fixtures 77 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:10,639 and valves, repaired emergency lighting systems, created a medical examination 78 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:18,000 wash area, replaced 10 aging HVAC units, 79 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:23,880 remodeled four cell medical observation, suicide war cells, installed a body 80 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,880 scanner, 81 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:31,694 refurbish central control refurbished the booking area, created a secure 82 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:35,360 public demog and we made it. [clears throat] 83 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:40,319 We've installed approximately 40 additional security cameras. Now 84 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:45,039 we've been building off locker room and breaking areas. We've expanded our 85 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:49,919 storage capacity. We did three perfect administrative space and we construct 86 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:54,319 building in preparations for the detention center expansion. 87 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:57,280 These investments significantly improve the operations security and 88 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:01,919 functionality through the detention center. The council deserve recognition 89 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:04,919 and support in supporting all of those improvements. 90 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:14,720 The problem today is no longer a maintenance problem. The June 2026 South 91 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:20,000 Carolina corrections inspection reports 92 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:25,120 identified four remaining deficit. The number of staffing of personnel 93 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:30,720 classifications of the plan and classification review and initial plan 94 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:35,520 need fundamentally different from the deficiency we have addressed in past. 95 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:39,039 They're not wood problems. They're not plumbing problem. They're not HVAC 96 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:45,440 problem. They're not maintenance problems. They are capacity problem. 97 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:51,919 Classification staffing and facility design issues. No amount of renovation 98 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:57,199 will solve these problem. What SCDC told us 99 00:07:55,039 --> 00:08:02,400 it specifically states that the facility cannot meet proper classification and 100 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:07,680 separation requirements because of the design and size of the facility. The 101 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:12,240 portfolio notice for staffing shortages contributed directly to the facility's 102 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:16,160 inability to maintain compliance with these standards. 103 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,759 The inspectors also acknowledge that man county is pursuing an expansion to 104 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,840 alleviate earth crowding to bring facility in full compliance with mining 105 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:28,479 jail standard. In other words, the state is telling us 106 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:35,279 exactly what the consultants hired in 2024 has already. The issue is no longer 107 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:40,360 a maintenance and repair issue. The issue is that we have outgrown the 108 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,360 facility. 109 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Overcrowding has reached critical level. Mary County Detention Center was built 110 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:54,399 at 98 the maximum rate of capacity of 96 million. 111 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:58,880 Anything you look at from the killing professionals will tell you that a jail 112 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:04,480 experience is overcrowding and overpopulation anytime you feel more 113 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:09,920 than 85% of your maximum available beds because you're no longer able to satisfy 114 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:19,440 separated inmate in Mar County with our maximum 9 bed rated inmate capacity that 115 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:25,120 would relate to 80 inmate before we dims in January of 2026. six. Our average 116 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:28,640 daily population has exceeded 120 inmates. 117 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:36,000 That's 40 over our occupational capacity. We have had up to right at 150 118 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:40,640 inmates and had to place emergency orders for 119 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:45,600 mattresses in recent weeks because we did not have enough mattresses with 125 120 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:51,760 mattresses to keep people from sleeping on the floor. Think about that for a 121 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:58,240 minute. We have up to 150 inmates in a facility that should not have over 82. 122 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:03,839 That is almost double what it should have held. 123 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,600 That's no longer an occasional spike. These numbers have run fairly 124 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:13,839 consistently because of that data. Average daily population has been close 125 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:19,279 to 120 since January of this year. CDL who we paid as national experts to 126 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,360 conduct a need assessment two years ago identified the problem. 127 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Their findings were clear. They concluded the facility only has three as 128 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:35,440 constructed housing unit modern detention facility require 129 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:40,720 significantly more housing unit to be able to properly classify separate. They 130 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:46,480 identified that the jail becomes functioning full 131 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:52,079 at approximately 80 to 82 inmates. Additional housing and separation space 132 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:55,839 is necessary for safe and compliant operations. 133 00:10:53,680 --> 00:11:00,959 Perhaps most importantly, CDL concluded that the Marian County should plan for 134 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:07,360 adding approximately 120 additional beds to meet housing requirements. 135 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Today our average daily population is already pushing the limits of the 136 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:21,360 numbers that CGO proposed two years ago. The future need identified in 2024 is 137 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:26,399 our new current reality. Classification is a safety issue. When 138 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:30,079 people hear the word classification, it may sound administrative, but it is not. 139 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Classification is one of the most important safety functions that takes 140 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:39,760 place inside of an extension facility. Classification determines how inmates 141 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:46,560 are separated based upon their file violent behavior, their charges, mental 142 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:51,440 health concerns, medical needs, disciplinary status, sentence versus 143 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:57,120 pre-trial status, and other vulnerability factor. 144 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:01,920 CGL determined that the current facility lacked sufficient housing area to 145 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:06,079 properly manage those population. As a result, staff is forced to make 146 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:10,000 housing compromises simply to keep the facility operating. 147 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:14,480 The more overcrowded the facility become, the more difficult these 148 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,720 decisions become. Mental health needs have changed 149 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:23,120 dramatically in the last several years. One of the most significant findings of 150 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:29,680 the CBO assessment was the growing mental health needed inmate population 151 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:34,639 medical providers estimate that 70 to 80% of our current inmates require some 152 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:39,440 level of mental health following the county to be commended in this area 153 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:43,680 because we've gone from telea health mental health to having a full-time 154 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:48,240 mental health counselor two days a week through a contract with the department 155 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:54,560 of mental health. But the facility was never designed nor built to handle that 156 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:58,639 level of need. Currently we have to use booking sales frequently to house mental 157 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:04,160 health inmates because we do not have proper sales to booking. We have to use 158 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:09,440 them to house suicide or because we do not have proper sales for cooking. 159 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:13,760 The same goes for medical observation inmates and inmates that must be placed 160 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:18,000 in protective test. That is the violation of the stat 161 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,360 booking sale meant for temporary housing. 162 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:25,760 When booking sales are used for long-term housing, there are no longer 163 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,200 available for their intended purpose. This creates additional operational 164 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:34,480 challenges throughout the entire facility. The Mate population today 165 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:40,560 looks much different than it would have been built. The facility design was 166 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:46,160 never intended for these changes. Staffing itself is the same overall. 167 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,800 2026 Department of Corrections inspection cited staffing deficiency 168 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,880 that it had everyone since I had been together. 169 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:59,199 The national standard that staffing assessment conducted by by 170 00:13:57,199 --> 00:14:03,519 the associated county previously concluded has concluded every time it 171 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:08,639 has been conducted. Marian County needs approximately 11 additional employees to 172 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:13,839 adequately staff and operate the detention center. 173 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,120 The inspection by SEDDC concluded the site. 174 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:22,240 However, staffing alone was not solution. Even if every 175 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,880 one of those positions were given to the detention center more and they were 176 00:14:25,199 --> 00:14:30,480 filled, the detention center would still be 177 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:35,760 overcrowded. We'd still not be able to classify and 178 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:39,760 separate. We would still not have the space we need to properly and safely 179 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:44,240 have a thin maker. We will still face the same major 180 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:50,399 operational challenge. Staffing and expansion must be addressed together. 181 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:55,120 One cannot solve the other. I mentioned the proven camp issue only 182 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:59,600 because if you look at the final page of the inspection report, that is the email 183 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:03,760 that was sent to me by the director of the division of compliance and 184 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:08,560 inspection from the department of corrections. Why it was sent to me? I do 185 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:13,760 not know perhaps because I am the person of the state association and on the 186 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:18,560 state of fans committee but the improvement camp does not fall under a 187 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:25,360 million share it fall directly under the county administrator and county council 188 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:30,000 but before discussing expansion council must understand the proven camp and the 189 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:35,839 detention center are no longer separate station ever since 2019 when the county 190 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:41,199 first hired Mosley architects We look at expanding the jail and closing. The plan 191 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:46,880 has been follow the prison camp and incorporate service inmates and state 192 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:51,519 inmates and be county paid for architecture plans doing 193 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:56,480 that. >> The county has repeatedly presented that 194 00:15:53,839 --> 00:16:01,759 same plan. The department of correcting tried to make it through the upgrades 195 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:05,320 and improve improvements in preparation for doing that. 196 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:11,560 Department of Correction based on that email is now asking for answers. 197 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:25,600 What is the risk in failing to act 198 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:30,680 in program with an extremely valuable workforce that will be extremely hard to 199 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,680 replace? 200 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Doing nothing do not maintain the status quo any longer. Doing nothing at this 201 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:48,320 point will change the status quo. The cost of delay also continues to grow. 202 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:52,720 We have already completed much of the work that's necessary to prepare for the 203 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:56,720 expansion bill. We've conducted professional needs assessment. We've 204 00:16:54,560 --> 00:17:02,639 hired nationally recognized detention consultants. We've developed expansion 205 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:08,240 concepts. We've previously play paid for architectural planning and design. I 206 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:13,120 will say that thankfully we did not move forward plans because those plans would 207 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:17,600 not have solved the problems that we're looking at. 208 00:17:16,221 --> 00:17:23,280 [clears throat] We have constructed a support building 209 00:17:20,959 --> 00:17:29,679 that have expanded laundry and expanded inmate property all in preparations for 210 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:35,120 an expansion to the detention center. The project that we designed and bid out 211 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:39,200 in 2020 will be cancelled and unfortunately since that time 212 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:44,640 construction cost increased dramatically. 213 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:49,679 County could have in 2019 satisfied these needs for approximately 214 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:56,240 $12.5 million. The estimate to satisfy the needs now is 215 00:17:52,400 --> 00:18:03,120 approximately $25 million. Every year that we delay, construction 216 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:07,600 costs are only increasing. In 2024, when CPL first did our needed assessment, the 217 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:15,760 average construction cost for a square foot in rated construction was around 218 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:21,720 $500. Two years later, it is now $600 a square foot. It is not going to become 219 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,720 any cheaper. 220 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:29,600 When you look at it like that, the expansion will never again be any 221 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:34,000 cheaper than what it is today. The county already has the answer. For 222 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:39,120 years, Marian County has studied this issue. We paid experienced professionals 223 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:43,360 to tell us what is needed. Every major review, every inspection comes to the 224 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,280 same conclusions. South Carolina Department of Corrections have 225 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:51,520 identified the deficiencies. The South Carolina Association of Counties 226 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:56,880 conducted staffing assessments and identified the deficiencies. 227 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:01,440 CBL management group identified the facility deficiency, the population 228 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:08,400 need, the future space deployments, and the expansion options that would best 229 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:13,600 fit N County's ability to staff and fund department. Corrections have repeatedly 230 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:17,840 discussed through county department and irrigation to operation. There are 231 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:22,960 going to be family detention facility. At this point there are no unansured 232 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:28,559 weather. Support building is completed. The studies have been completed. The 233 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:33,679 inspections are completed every year. The planning is complete. We know what 234 00:19:31,679 --> 00:19:38,640 need to be done. The only major step remaining is to move 235 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:43,120 forward with the design and construction of the expansion. 236 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:49,120 What happens if we don't and we continue to wait? The risk continues to increase 237 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:54,960 the operational risk goes up and we certainly face more of the problem. The 238 00:19:51,679 --> 00:20:01,679 security risk and potential hindrance to the staff look we face greater inmate 239 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:06,559 management chaffing risk. We are already seeing that an 240 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:12,080 increased turnover, burnout and retention problem. 241 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:17,200 The financial risk, higher future construction costs, 242 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:22,080 compliance risk with continued department of correction. 243 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:27,679 The legal division increased exponentiation involving overcrowding 244 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:34,559 safety classification limiting medical care of consignment mental health 245 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:38,640 services and staffing should only revive and we continue to increase. In 246 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:42,240 conclusion, Chairman Kenny and members of the council for nearly a decade, 247 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:46,400 Marian County has worked diligently to improve the detention center. We have 248 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,960 fixed all the deficiencies that could be fixed. We have renovated the facility to 249 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:56,080 the extent that we can do so. We have modernized operations. 250 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,760 We have increased technology to improve those operation. We have hired experts. 251 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:05,200 We've conducted studies. We have developed plans. We have built 252 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:10,159 supporting infrastructure. We are prepared for the next step. The question 253 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,320 before us today is no longer what should we do. 254 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:19,120 The experts have already answered that question after many times. The real 255 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,159 question is how much longer can we afford to wait before coming up with a 256 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:29,360 plan taking action but every major assessment every inspection every study 257 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:34,320 and every population trend points to the same conclusion. We must move forward 258 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:39,200 through planning building expansion. Cost of action is significant but the 259 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:46,159 cost of continued delay will be far greater. Thank you. this opportunity to 260 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:51,520 make this presentation to you and the sheriff and I will welcome you in 261 00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:55,640 whatever way we can move forward and continue to resolve these 262 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:04,799 question I thank you Mr. Florida, 263 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:10,080 Jimmy, you know, I respect you to the utmost or where in the world are Mar 264 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:15,360 County going to get 12 million or 25 million. That's the problem. I listen, I 265 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,919 love you and I shift, but I'm tired of hearing about it. We either going to do 266 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:22,559 something or do what we going to do. Dave, we ain't got the money. We didn't 267 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,240 give the county employees every bit of raise. 268 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,520 I'm sorry. >> I understand. I 269 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:33,919 » I' never been to jail, but I want to go to jail. people over there somewhere. 270 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:39,679 They was on Tanya Brown had all of it. He was everybody say I'm sorry and I'm 271 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:44,159 not disrespecting you and Sheriff but you tell us if you tell us where we get 272 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:47,440 the money we'll do it. I I imagine we do. 273 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:50,880 » Then the only thing I can say to that is we met I met with y'all in January. 274 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,159 » You did? >> And we proposed the plan then that would 275 00:22:53,679 --> 00:23:00,240 come over the money and no action was taken on that plan. 276 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:04,720 » Well, in 2019 I was not on this council. Okay, that's the only thing I can say in 277 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,440 regard to that. >> Well, like I say, you didn't get a 278 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,080 raise. The sheriff didn't get a raise. Child, nobody got a raise. 279 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:15,039 » Understood. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. 280 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,919 » I mean, the only other thing I would say in the box and 281 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:24,480 it's going to cost the county. >> I understand. And I'm a taxpayer. 282 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,480 » The only question is how are we going to talk? 283 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,559 Well, that's re we have to ask David 284 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:42,840 question Mr. F. >> Thank you. 285 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,840 » Thank you, Sheriff. 286 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,600 Minister update. 287 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:54,799 » Thank you, Chairman, council. I'm going to keep it short. I just want to let you 288 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:58,559 know that um we have one more position to fill in EMS 289 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:02,720 and that'll be the first time that we've had a fully staffed department in over 290 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:07,280 10 years. Um that's a significant accomplishment and I'd like to public 291 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:11,600 publicly recognize Jamie Sawyer for the outstanding work he has done. Jamie's 292 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:17,760 provided strong and steady leadership and I am extremely proud of the progress 293 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:21,760 he and his team have made. Uh and second, 294 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:28,559 uh Charles Taylor and myself will be going to uh Columbia on September 10th. 295 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:35,919 And uh we will be going up against uh Buford Jasper for the uh Barrett Larore 296 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:42,080 Memorial Regional Cooperation Award. Very excited about that with his uh take 297 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:49,640 flight program and um really looking forward to uh being on that trophy. So 298 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:49,640 that's all I got. Thank you. 299 00:24:50,720 --> 00:25:00,400 » Mr. Chairman, if if I could, Senator Williams, 300 00:24:55,679 --> 00:25:06,159 » one that we went to Washington to see Clber, Lindsey Graham, 301 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,159 all our representatives, senators, 302 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:14,799 » in an effort to try to get some money. Would you would you talk to that for a 303 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,240 second? >> Yes, sir. We did uh 304 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,559 Detroit 305 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:34,960 and Tim Hawk County administrator. That's time we went to Har. We met up 306 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:41,120 with our congressional delegation um trying to seek some funds funds. 307 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:46,240 » We also went again too. He >> went twice. That's right. 308 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:51,440 » And Joel. That's right. last time but she not too long ago long ago. So it's 309 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:57,520 not like we haven't been trying to address this issue and we're very much 310 00:25:55,039 --> 00:26:03,360 aware of what we're facing there in terms of uh not being in compliance with 311 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:10,720 SC department of correction 312 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:15,679 and I thank uh Mr. turn around the mayor of the board of work and where we going 313 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:21,039 to get the funding from we just don't have the funding that's why we're 314 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:26,720 seeking some outside support both on the federal and state level we secure some 315 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:31,919 funds on the state level about two and a half million dollars 316 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:37,919 a few years ago to have address some of those vacancies that come signed at the 317 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:44,320 detention center >> and als also um kind of make the 318 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:50,400 difference a little bit when Mr. explor you know they came to council was 319 00:26:46,720 --> 00:27:00,240 composed of and we and we didn't we did we have nothing that was a public safety 320 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:07,279 uh pen sales tax and unfortunately the citizens of this county do not support 321 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:12,720 um that sales tax 322 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:21,440 and Um uh to be honest, I think um we we 323 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:29,200 probably we all of us probably could do a better job in educating public and to 324 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:34,279 uh the importance of this these funds and what it will actually do address 325 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:43,480 needs out there. We I was astounded to hear the numbers that their average 326 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:53,520 day population 120 that is that is mind. 327 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:57,760 We all know crime is up everywhere and the turn will set it right. You know 328 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,640 it's not like Mary County is the only one that's experiencing this problem. 329 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:08,000 It's all over the state. Of course that help us to solve our problem. make us 330 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:13,919 feel better. But it it's a problem anyway. And and and that's what I like 331 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:20,159 to um say to the citizens of this county. You know, that's a classic 332 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,760 example of another unfunded mandate by the state, 333 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:28,320 » right? >> That we have to provide this service to 334 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:32,320 the citizens of the county. And you know where we going to get it from? You know, 335 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:37,840 we don't have industry. uh you know benefit falls on tax paying 336 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:42,960 the property own people already complaining about their taxes and how 337 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:47,440 high they are and just be able to assess that you know how that goes 338 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:53,520 probably [clears throat] going to go up and until we get some industry in here 339 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:59,120 that's not going to change unfortunately but that is an unfunded mandate by the 340 00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:03,120 state government and we have those same unfunded mandates by the federal 341 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:07,600 government that you have to provide those services and when we don't have 342 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:12,399 industry when we don't have that place we got to raise your property taxes and 343 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:17,039 you don't like that but remember when we raise your taxes we raise our taxes we 344 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,039 pay taxes and that's the last thing we want to do that's why we didn't do it 345 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,760 this year thank God we were fortunate enough not to have to raise property 346 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:31,600 taxes this year but if you want to hear what is going on $25 million tax uh 347 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:35,679 price tag to address our detention center 348 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:41,919 deficiencies out there and as much as our family puts our entire county budget 349 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:48,480 26 million you process that we got to come up with 350 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:54,399 a plan I think one one way of addressing that I think and it's about as fair as 351 00:29:51,360 --> 00:30:00,720 you can get to do the public sales tax one uh sales tax you know and everybody 352 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:05,440 gets to pay you don't spend you don't pay. More you spend, the more you pay. 353 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:11,760 And they tourist people coming into this county um spend the money they get to 354 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:18,000 pay as well. 30% of that would come from people outside of this county. So that 355 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:24,320 would make more sense. Um probably addressing that situation out there than 356 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:30,640 any other that I can think of. There's no way you can ever raise the taxes in 357 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:34,799 this county to generate $25. uh you know address that issue out there 358 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:40,159 and we need those inmates. They're part of our workforce because if you know if 359 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:45,120 the state comes in and said, "Hey, we we will no longer allow these state inmates 360 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,640 to be here in America fill those slots." That means we're 361 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:52,720 going to have to hire people or we have to cut services. 362 00:30:50,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Can't have it both ways. But that's kind of where we are. That's a conversation 363 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:05,399 that we can have um at a later time. Thank you, sir. 364 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,399 » Thanks, sir. 365 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,399 Hey, >> say you in the airport director going to 366 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Columbia. >> Yes, sir. 367 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,200 » Please drop him off at Bull Street. Come on back without him. 368 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,961 » I got his room. >> Okay. [laughter] 369 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,600 » All right. Requesting comments from members of council. 370 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:32,080 » Mr. [clears throat] Rogers. I want to begin by acknowledging Senator Williams 371 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:37,279 uh and Representative Atinson who uh this week was able to secure some 372 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:41,600 significant funding um for their respective districts but particularly 373 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:46,960 Marian County. Uh, I know there was initially $300 million in community 374 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:53,200 project funding uh, and that was cut from the uh, state budget, but I think 375 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:58,240 it's about 150 for the Senate and 220 for the house. 376 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,760 » Yes. And so we were able to they were able to secure some great projects that 377 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:06,720 are much needed. I know my district is very pleased. Um, and you kept the 378 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:11,919 promise that you made to the people at the Saffold Center almost two years ago 379 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:16,240 with that. And also, Representative Atinson working, he and I worked 380 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:22,080 together with uh then Chief uh Wyman Watson uh to make sure we get a water 381 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,600 facility down in the Woodbury area. Um there's over 10,000 acres of land, but 382 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,679 no source to get water when there's a fire. Um, so I would just want to thank 383 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:33,840 both of them for the work that they've done this particular session to make 384 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:39,440 sure under challenging circumstances that we were able to still get some 385 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:44,960 resources. Uh, I just want to mention that I saw that um, the city of Marion 386 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:49,600 has moved forward with installing flock campers and uh, I guess as a question 387 00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:55,200 for the sheriff. Just want to make sure that's not going to be used for 388 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:59,120 ticketing or uh rather at speed or taking pictures of people who might have 389 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,720 a phone in their hands as it's been happening in other locations where 390 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:08,720 people are just getting tickets in the mail. Um because of this service that 391 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,279 they provide. Um I'm not against flock. I understand how it can be very useful. 392 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:17,519 Um, but I just want to make sure that we have some kind of or you have some kind 393 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:22,880 of plan in place to make sure there's no abuses that we've also seen in other 394 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,880 areas um that have employed these flock cameras. 395 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:34,159 » Uh yeah. Yes, sir. The uh city of Mar they've had a flock cameras for a couple 396 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:39,679 years. Those cameras have been up. I would say uh 397 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:46,399 the flock hammers are probably on the technology side best 398 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:52,399 prime fighting tool we currently have the use in the flock cameras that needs 399 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:59,120 to be addressed or the inquiries into them personal reasons whatever the case 400 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:04,399 I would hope that that's not do away with all or there needs to be a policy 401 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:10,320 guidelines when Somebody mess it up, they go into do it for personal use. 402 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:15,440 Firearm charges. That's what being done across the state. Some sheriffs up 403 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:20,560 friend Hobart Lewis up in Greenville. You know, he's had some issues with fire 404 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:29,599 char whatever the case may be, but they are great uh tool to use. when the EMS 405 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:34,879 Phoenician for was killed left here went to New Mexico where it 406 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:39,599 can track him the whole time versus with these fly they'll kill you off license 407 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:44,480 to my knowledge they're not used for speed catch a speeders are too easy to 408 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:49,200 catch worry about a camera I mean you can go anywhere I mean using cell phone 409 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:57,920 they're not used for you know they're license tag and where folks are going at 410 00:34:53,119 --> 00:35:04,079 pace missing later recent county called said we see where she come in county 411 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:11,119 they never let we got to looking about the time she was uh the man had dementia 412 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:16,160 and he's parked out at the uh um the comfort in 413 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:21,920 great tool great tool not just crime but missing people they are a great tool to 414 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:28,400 use we don't have currently any county any city does, but uh we we uh ask them 415 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:32,240 a lot, you know, check this for crime fighting burgers. There needs to be 416 00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:38,480 policy. We my folks at the National Academy look at that, you know, what can 417 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:43,200 we do to solve this problem this, you know, to do an inquiry case number 418 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:47,760 or CAD number needs to be attached to so people just not randomly check that have 419 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:51,280 a criminal case number or a CAD number through dispatch. That's just one way uh 420 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:55,440 to look, but it does need to be addressed for misuse. Um hold those 421 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,440 people accountable, but let's not get rid of a tool that is so important. But 422 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,079 it could be my family member, your family member, anybody. 423 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,240 » Well, I don't want to get I don't want to get rid of it. I just want to make 424 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:10,640 sure it's not used to ticket people as it has in some locations might have a 425 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,440 cell phone in their hand when they pass by 426 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,200 » or they going over the speed limit. >> It's not monitor 24/7, is it? 427 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,200 » No. >> Right. 428 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:25,599 You have to have a tag, somebody's tag run against in this traffic and that 429 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,560 rear that vehicle tag. >> But the question I have for you, 430 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:34,480 sheriff, just like if another sheriff from upstate call you that came through 431 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:38,000 our county suspect, you then contact the chief of police. Your deputies have no 432 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:41,440 asset. >> Yeah, we have to have unless somebody 433 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:43,520 allows us access. >> But do you have access? Do you and your 434 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,760 deputy have? >> I don't know. We may one or two may have 435 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,480 access. I think we may call Marion and have them. I I would have to check. I'm 436 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,160 not >> physical. 437 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:59,760 » It's kind of like D and D access you know inquires there but there has to be 438 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:05,839 uh you know we don't want to get rid of I that's a great cool it's not it's not 439 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,599 check you know how it is catchers I mean you know you know just anywhere you 440 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,079 don't have to have a camera but it's captain tag. 441 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:22,800 Thank you. I suggest shar we put a toll on 501 going to the beach. We be jail 442 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,119 that's out of his >> jing. 443 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,480 Huh? >> That is not his wheelhouse. 444 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:35,160 » Well, we need to get a wheelhouse right now. They sure mean 445 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,160 » I got you. Yeah. 446 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:44,000 » Carolina Falls. That'd be a good one. Um I have two more things uh for the 447 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:49,119 administrator. Um, no. We're very far in the hurricane season. I brought this up 448 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:53,839 two years ago. I'd like for the county to start securing some locations so we 449 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:58,960 can have some hurricane shelters and to enter into some agreements. Um, we have 450 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:04,480 a huge population of people that live in mobile homes in this county. Um, and I 451 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,839 know it was uh discussed about making sure there was some kind of formal 452 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:12,320 agreement in place at least with some of the schools to be able to use those 453 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:17,760 facilities if we have to move people or people are displaced. Um, but we never 454 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:26,160 follow through with that. Um, the second question I have, um, I've 455 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:31,599 been noticing how much, uh, uh, homes have been being built on Highway 378 and 456 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:37,119 Conway coming towards us. I mean, it's right now at the caution light. Um, and 457 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:41,760 it's coming our way. So, I know we we made an effort to discuss the issue of 458 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:46,320 of impact fees in our comprehensive plan. Um, but I think need to go ahead 459 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:51,280 and start moving forward looking at what we need to do. Um, because if you look 460 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:55,119 at some of the property that's that that that's owned on Highway 370 through 461 00:38:53,040 --> 00:39:00,240 Marian County, there's some large tracks of land that's owned by uh people who 462 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:04,000 could develop it very quickly. Um, and obviously in other parts of the county. 463 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:10,079 Um, but I think we need to go ahead and get started on that conversation. Um, 464 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:15,200 and I my question for uh I don't know if you can answer this, Mr. Attorney. Um, 465 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:21,200 do you know when the fees from Project Bonfire will start crewing? When they'll 466 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,800 come in, that for next year or >> it's it's based off of when they go into 467 00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:28,480 use. >> It's the I believe it's the fiscal year 468 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,760 following when they put it into use. >> So, are they building something new? Are 469 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:36,320 they going inside? >> I I am not sure. uh because it was none 470 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,480 of that's really discussed in the ordinance part of it. 471 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:45,520 » But so the inuse factor is really more of a do type of activity. 472 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:49,680 » Uh whenever they apply for that to go into use is when that kicks in. 473 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:55,440 » Okay. Um thank you for that. Uh just another 474 00:39:52,960 --> 00:40:01,440 comment for Senator Williams. The uh the signs are up now down at the landing 475 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:06,000 brick necking look great. Um, I think everyone who goes down there to fish in 476 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:12,800 the boat, they are really excited about having a a nice location to go to and 477 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:16,640 get on the river. Um, so thanks uh DNR and those folks for that. Uh, and just 478 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:22,400 to comment about what Senator Williams was saying, and it might be a little 479 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:28,480 political, but um, this year in 2026, Congressman Clyburn secured $50 million 480 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:31,920 in federal funding for his district. So, we're looking at these big projects. We 481 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:36,880 need help and we need help from people who represent us on the federal level 482 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:41,440 and they're the ones that ask for this help because the monies are there if 483 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:45,760 they're willing to go and get it. But in order for a representative to be able to 484 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,480 get that kind of funding, they have to have a partner in the US Senate who's 485 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:56,720 also willing to get earmarks. And if you're not willing to get eararks, the 486 00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:00,160 state will not get funds. That's just a matter of fact. The great work that the 487 00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:03,280 monies that Mr. Cly burn secure for his district which we're no longer a part 488 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:09,280 of. He was able to do that in partnership with uh Senator Lindsey 489 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Graham. Um so that's important because we're all paying federal taxes, but if 490 00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:16,720 we're not fighting to bring portions of that money back, other states are going 491 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:22,400 to get them. So if you look at what Florida or New York State, um excuse not 492 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,480 Florida, New York State, California, um other states who actively try to get 493 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:31,040 federal eararks, they're getting in huge portions of money. That's why Alabama is 494 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:35,440 booming. Uh Huntsville, Alabama is booming because of federal earmarks have 495 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:40,079 turned that little town into a bustling city with federal projects. So that's 496 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,880 where I think we're going to have to focus our attention. We don't have the 497 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:49,440 money locally. The population does not seem interested in trying to pass a 498 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:55,680 penny sales tax. We're going to have to aggressively pursue our legislators on a 499 00:41:52,240 --> 00:42:00,319 federal level to get us some funding assistance because it's available and 500 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:05,119 it's possible. And if you look at these projects that Mr. Clyburn has just for 501 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:11,599 2026, you can see very easily how you could fit a project like this into a 502 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:14,839 funding request um at the federal level. Thank you. 503 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,960 No comments, Chris. >> Oh, 504 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:28,400 » and I think that's what our senator saw when he arranged his meeting 505 00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:33,040 » in Washington DC. >> We probably need to do that again. 506 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:39,040 » Yeah, it's going to have to be after the election. They're done now. 507 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:42,880 » Um but January, really January, February, so we get the request by the 508 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,520 time they go to the appropriation meetings, March, April. Go ahead. 509 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:55,359 » I have a question for um maybe the attorney and county [clears throat] 510 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:58,400 administrator. These old homes that we have throughout the county. I got 511 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:03,680 several phone calls throughout my district. The tax lean that the 512 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:08,240 commission that we have, you know what I'm talking about? 513 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:13,680 The forfeited tax land. >> Yeah. Forfeit land commission. I got 514 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:18,880 some homes in my district and they was asking for years 515 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,920 to, you know, get the proper paperwork and I keep telling them we working on 516 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,560 working now. They getting frustrated. So that's why I'm opening. They feel like 517 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:30,400 we're not doing nothing. I'm not doing nothing. So that's why I'm asking you 518 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:33,440 now since can we address that and where we at and why we're not getting no 519 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,800 paperwork done. >> Okay. And I and I want to ask one thing 520 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:42,800 just because of the beginning of the way you started to make sure I I'm aware of 521 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:47,440 exactly what we need to do. You've got a a mobile home if it's sitting on the 522 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:53,200 property and tax separately from the land. That's a different process than if 523 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:57,760 it's the land. So do you know >> these are these are these are homes and 524 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,599 um city of Marion in my district. I know there's two of them. Okay. 525 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,760 » I'm getting calls. >> So the houses as well. It's not just 526 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,839 home. >> Okay. But where we at with that? I know 527 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:09,440 we talked about that several times and talked about getting part-time help, 528 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,640 helping you all about that and it fell to the wayside. Where we at with that? 529 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,800 » Yeah, the the most recent discussion that that we all had was dealing with 530 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:21,520 the website and and giving us that ability to put those things out there 531 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:26,400 pretty much on a weekly basis for sale and have people to, you know, make bids. 532 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:31,839 Other other than that, you have to structure a sale similar to the tax 533 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:36,640 sale. um that is very costly and very timeconuming to put together. So having 534 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:41,440 that ability to just throw them out there as they get ready and people can 535 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:46,560 bid uh and get them that is the most efficient and direct way to handle that 536 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:52,000 problem. And and I've been saying that unfortunately way before you were even 537 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:54,800 on council. So it it I I understand the frustration coming from the 538 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,960 constituents. I understand the frustration coming from the council 539 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:05,040 members because it's been frustrating me uh since I started here in 2008. Um 540 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:08,319 » so again, administrator, this where we at with that? 541 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:12,560 » We have a conversation several times about that. So where we at with that? 542 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:19,680 The website get online. >> Yes, sir. We uh [clears throat] 543 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:23,599 we uh we just posted the uh RFQ for the uh for the website and so we're in a 544 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:28,480 process of trying to get a whole brand new website so that we could actually uh 545 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:33,520 accommodate all of this all of these issues. So, I'm not sure how long that 546 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:39,599 process is going to take for in terms of the uh website, but I do know that uh 547 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:42,960 Chuck has been working on on getting a lot of those deeds cleared up, and I'm 548 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,359 pretty sure you've got the majority of them taken care of. 549 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,839 » Well, not majority of the forfeit land commission that that's the regular tax 550 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,839 sale deeds. Yes. 551 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,160 » But again, I'm I'm getting phone calls and they're frustrated and I am too 552 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,440 because we've been talking about this over two years now. 553 00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:04,000 I I think it would be good for the forfeooted land commission to meet 554 00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:08,560 to have a meeting to assess where they're at because if I understand it, 555 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:15,440 the the statute says they're supposed to meet uh once a month um with those four 556 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:20,000 members, three members and the chair of the county council if the council votes 557 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:23,040 to add the chairman of county council. I think that's where it needs to start. 558 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:27,119 They need to have a meeting so you can actually see what all those properties 559 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,560 are at. And and I actually like the process that the county of Florence, 560 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:34,960 Florence County has where you can go to their building and ask them for a copy 561 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:40,880 of the forfeited land commission list. Look up the property um on your phone 562 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:44,240 and then make a bid right there. Now, you got to be able to pay it. You can't 563 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:50,079 just make some bid and not have the money um and then go from there and just 564 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,119 start uh moving these properties, 565 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:57,440 » right? And I just think >> and that's actually what what this plan 566 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:02,800 is supposed to be for. That's exactly what and and I didn't my first read into 567 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:08,880 it wasn't Florence counties, but I have seen theirs. Um and and theirs is even a 568 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,440 little bit more um liberal than what I was even thinking because theirs you 569 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:18,640 don't even have to do it on the website. You just walk in the door and say, "Hey, 570 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:23,680 I'll buy that one for, you know, $500." and they agreed to do it and it's ready 571 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:27,599 to go. You just buy it. That I have a little bit of discomfort in that because 572 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,359 there's you you get to a little bit of a fairness issue when you didn't somebody 573 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:35,119 else is going to say, "Well, I didn't even know that property was available. I 574 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,480 would have given $1,000 for it." So, that's why I like the website mechanism 575 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:44,079 a little bit better because it gives time to post it. gives uh everybody, not 576 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:47,920 just constituents, but everybody uh in the public a chance to see that it's 577 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,480 there and some time to to make a bid and get the the the best that that we can 578 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:58,760 get out of that process. I think that's a much fairer process than just somebody 579 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,760 walking in and saying, "I'll take that." 580 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:08,560 » So, I I'm I'll be looking for update next meeting, okay, on this. I need an 581 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:15,839 update on this and before I can let my constituents know where we at. 582 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:20,079 » Okay. Thank you, >> Mr. Flo and Chief. I want to I didn't 583 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,880 want to disrespect y'all, but I just want to let you know we trying, but we 584 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:28,800 just don't have the money and you understand. Maybe uh Senator can do 585 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:34,559 that. Don't apologize y'all. I didn't mean no, but I just trying to be true. 586 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:38,960 Thank you, chair. And I got 587 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:43,200 Back to my question for you two. I got one particular address I give y'all 588 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:46,559 later that I need looked at. Sure. >> In the city of Mar off of Gibson Street. 589 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,040 Okay. >> All right. 590 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:54,599 » Give it to me now or do you >> I have you don't have 591 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,599 » I give it to 592 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,599 » All right. Exeual 593 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:11,400 matter matter personnel matter. Got a motion. Got a second. Any discussion 594 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,400 on the first white 595 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,000 made a motion come out of session in regular session. 596 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,000 » So move second. >> Got a motion. Got a second. Any 597 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:36,000 discussion? All in favor say I. I. >> Likewise I have it. 598 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:39,000 Can I make a motion to adjourn motion? 599 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,119 10.