1 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:53,440 Okay, it's 9 o'clock. Here we go. Welcome to the October 1st Mayor Opposite County Board of Supervisors meeting. Welcome everyone. 2 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,460 I will note for the listening folks. All five supervisors are here. 3 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:07,840 or C.A. County Council, Clerk of the Board, Deputy Clerk of the Board, sitting in with us this morning. 4 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:15,680 Hold teams here. Okay, please stand with me, pledge allegiance to the flag of the greatest nation in the world. 5 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:20,370 Again, 6 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,000 one nation under individual. 7 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:37,280 Thank you. 8 00:03:44,460 --> 00:03:46,900 Madam Clerk, do we have any introductions this morning? 9 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,320 None that I'm aware of chair. 10 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,700 Okay, all right, we'll move on to consent to agenda then. 11 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:04,640 The consent agenda consists of items that are generally viewed as non-controversial and routine by the department. 12 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,500 If the board wishes to discuss an item, it will be removed from the consent agenda. 13 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:18,200 Move to the end of the time to agenda or at the chair's discretion, maybe take in conjunction with another item scheduled by the respective department. 14 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Otherwise, the consent agenda items are generally approved in one single motion. 15 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:34,200 This is the appropriate time for the public to advise the chair of any comments to the consent agenda or to request that the board consider removing an item from the consent agenda. 16 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:48,420 And if you're on the phone line, would like to make a comment this morning or any time that public comment is open, star five, we'll see your hand raised on the computer there, we can get you recognized for your comment. 17 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:58,680 One note on the consent agenda, we will pull CA9 off for a correction and separate vote. 18 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:02,900 Okay, all right. 19 00:05:03,580 --> 00:05:07,020 I'll open the Florida Public comment on the consent agenda. 20 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:20,030 I'm Monica. 21 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:22,330 Good morning. Good morning, Board. 22 00:05:22,630 --> 00:05:24,090 Monica Nielsen, Agriculture Commissioner. 23 00:05:25,090 --> 00:05:27,010 In June when we had our budget hearings, 24 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:29,410 there was a concern about my glass viewing contract. 25 00:05:29,410 --> 00:05:36,950 It is fully funded, so this is the correct amount that we've received for the past couple years, and then also on my Pest Detection Contract 26 00:05:37,710 --> 00:05:40,850 This is only the core trapping, so this is fruit fly 27 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:46,130 Spudgy mouth and Japanese beetle. We should I should be coming back with a and a 28 00:05:46,130 --> 00:05:50,270 Amendment to this contract or a separate contract for the additional CalTrap and 29 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:51,670 Capra Beetle trapping. 30 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,620 Sure. Supervisor Smokman's question. Thank you Monica 31 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:05,970 So the, but the numbers that are in the packet right now are the correct numbers for today's purposes correct, okay, great. Thank you 32 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:13,220 Steve 33 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:23,100 Good morning board, Stephen for planning director. I just a quick note on C.A. 11. This is an appointment for the mayor posted town task force 34 00:06:24,130 --> 00:06:33,090 We'd like to thank the arts council for getting their appointment in place for the board to consider today and there's one more seat available for that committee 35 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:36,550 So, we'll be moving that forward soon. 36 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:37,170 Thank you. 37 00:06:37,370 --> 00:06:38,110 Thank you. 38 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:56,030 There's a button right underneath the base of that, it turns to speaker on. 39 00:06:56,910 --> 00:07:01,130 On the base of the speakers, right in the middle, there's a little, there you go. 40 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:02,370 Hello. 41 00:07:03,950 --> 00:07:07,510 My name is Matthew Fried from Kathy's Valley 4-H. 42 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:14,850 I'm here representing National 4-H Week, which is from October 7th to October 12th. 43 00:07:14,850 --> 00:07:19,310 wealth, which will mark this 44 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:29,900 75th anniversary of 4-Hin. 45 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,500 Mayor Boza, thank you. 46 00:07:32,740 --> 00:07:34,100 Awesome, thank you. 47 00:07:47,170 --> 00:07:47,190 Anybody? 48 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:49,550 Oh, the meeting, yes. 49 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:50,570 Meeting guests. 50 00:07:50,910 --> 00:07:55,510 So we have a hand raised on the phone, but there's no phone number for me to recognize you, 51 00:07:55,750 --> 00:07:58,590 so if it's you go ahead, make your comment. 52 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,100 Star 6, unmute yourself. 53 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:07,470 There you go. 54 00:08:09,210 --> 00:08:11,690 Hi. This is Katie at Mountain Crisis Services. 55 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:14,150 I wanted to make a comment on CA5. 56 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:17,590 for you all to proclaim the month of October as Ms. 57 00:08:17,690 --> 00:08:29,530 Ms. Bones Awareness Month, I always appreciate you all bringing this forward and I just want to say thank you and invite you all towards take back the night of it, which is tomorrow at 530 at Mount Chris Services office. 58 00:08:30,310 --> 00:08:32,990 So thank you all again and I hope you all have a great day. 59 00:08:33,710 --> 00:08:34,190 Thank you, Katie. 60 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:40,660 Okay. Anybody else this morning? 61 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,820 We'll close public comment. I'll bring it back to this direction. 62 00:08:46,820 --> 00:08:48,600 Any board members? 63 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,540 That is Supervisor Forsyth. 64 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:54,500 Okay. 65 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Let's turn our microphones on. 66 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,820 See a 15, sorry. 67 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,420 See a 15. 68 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,460 There's Supervisor Forsyth. 69 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:07,480 Supervisor Tozo. 70 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,240 15 as well. 71 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:11,620 Down here. 72 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:12,960 Okay. 73 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,220 Go ahead, Supervisor. 74 00:09:15,820 --> 00:09:17,060 Your first lady first. 75 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:26,880 I just wanted to mention how important 4-H is to the children in our community. 76 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,360 They learned so much about responsibility. 77 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:38,500 My family was engaged in 4-H from the beginning, from the last 9 years old until the 78 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:42,060 graduate that I went through with FFA and that's another amazing organization. 79 00:09:42,420 --> 00:09:47,320 So I just wanted to mention how important it is to get your kids involved. 80 00:09:48,180 --> 00:09:53,920 lots of times it, you know, head, heart, hands, health and that goes along with the 81 00:09:53,920 --> 00:10:01,460 other items we have today with domestic violence and are getting those mammograms for 82 00:10:01,460 --> 00:10:06,740 these women out here. So I think it all goes together today. So get your kids involved and 83 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:09,900 you guys keep up the good work. Nice job, Matthew. Thank you. 84 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:12,900 Thank you, Chair. 85 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,320 4H is very important. 86 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:19,540 Chris and I both have been 4H leaders for years. 87 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Recently, we're not now, but our daughters are 4H leaders. 88 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:26,420 Our daughters were in 4H. 89 00:10:26,780 --> 00:10:29,500 My grandchildren, all my grandchildren are in 4H. 90 00:10:30,260 --> 00:10:33,640 It truly develops leadership and public speaking. 91 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,880 And the work ethic, something sometimes, 92 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,400 this whole world's lacking. 93 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,680 And so it's really amazing to watch these young people 94 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:49,080 show animals and be involved in every kind of project you can imagine. So I just want to say thank 95 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:54,880 you to for each and the for each leader for doing a great job. Thank you. Thank you for that. 96 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:01,400 And I want to draw attention to CA10, which is asking this board to proclaim the month of October 97 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:11,200 2024 as breast cancer awareness month and October 18th as mammography mammography day. 98 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,360 This is a special one to me. My mother is a breast cancer survivor and 99 00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:24,200 It's really tough when when you have to do that so get yourself checked. It's I think it's free 100 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,740 Is it still free out there at the hospital on that day? Am I an parent? 101 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Did you see anybody? 102 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:38,800 No, okay, sorry for that. Still, it's worth the price of admission. Get yourself checked. Okay, 103 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:41,620 action 104 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Supervisor Forsyth. 105 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,640 You can't look to the right. 106 00:11:48,980 --> 00:11:50,280 I can't. 107 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:56,940 I move to approve the consent agenda as presented with the minus of C-19, which will be voted on separately. 108 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,800 C-19. 109 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,440 C-19. 110 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Thank you. 111 00:12:01,180 --> 00:12:01,880 Supervisor Boat. 112 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:02,920 That's all second done. 113 00:12:02,940 --> 00:12:03,360 All right. 114 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,600 It's been moved and seconded that we approve the consent agenda. 115 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,700 Minus C-19, all in favor say aye. 116 00:12:09,740 --> 00:12:10,140 Aye. 117 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:11,700 Any pose? 118 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:13,940 Any abstain? 119 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:19,920 And the consent agenda minus CA9 is approved unanimously. 120 00:12:21,020 --> 00:12:27,940 Okay, Madam Clerk, CA9 has a whole slew of minutes and needs some correction. 121 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:31,320 Yes, so this was my mistake. 122 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:33,600 It's our Daniel Bonshew Clerk of the Board. 123 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,620 All the minutes from March 19th to May 1st. 124 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:40,940 You guys actually approved June 4th. 125 00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:44,960 I had not pulled them out of my queue yet for finalization. 126 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,940 And so when I was creating this item, they still showed on my end-to-strafts. 127 00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:55,400 So I wanted to make it clear that those have already been approved, March 19th through May 1st, 128 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,180 and we're just doing May 14th through July 2nd. 129 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:59,060 Okay. 130 00:12:59,180 --> 00:13:00,160 Thank you. 131 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:00,900 Thank you. 132 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:04,040 Any public comment on this item? 133 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Pretty straightforward. 134 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,300 Okay. 135 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:12,180 It's a surprise for a second. 136 00:13:12,460 --> 00:13:15,580 Yeah, I'll move C9 as presented and as amended. 137 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:17,320 Thank you. 138 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:21,240 And I'll second. 139 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,080 Then moved in seconded that we approve C9 as amended. 140 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:28,300 All in favor say aye. 141 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:28,960 Aye. 142 00:13:29,580 --> 00:13:30,300 Any opposed? 143 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:33,140 Bless you. 144 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:33,980 Any abstain? 145 00:13:35,180 --> 00:13:35,440 Okay. 146 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,960 And the item is approved unanimously. 147 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:38,120 Okay. 148 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,020 Let's move on. 149 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,320 Department of Presentation. 150 00:13:40,460 --> 00:13:43,540 This is for items within the jurisdiction of this board. 151 00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:48,280 and not on today's agenda, department heads. 152 00:13:55,050 --> 00:14:01,450 Seeing for planning director, I just wanted to send out a little reminder of folks to participate 153 00:14:01,450 --> 00:14:03,190 Friday at Planning Commission. 154 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:06,710 There's a workshop one of the development code update. 155 00:14:06,850 --> 00:14:09,110 That's an important set of codes for the county. 156 00:14:09,650 --> 00:14:15,650 Just to remind folks that the board had a joint workshop on the 23rd this month with the Planning 157 00:14:15,650 --> 00:14:17,610 Commission in this old beat. 158 00:14:17,610 --> 00:14:21,930 an ongoing process until the code gets to a point where we can bring it back 159 00:14:21,930 --> 00:14:25,670 the planning commission can bring it back to the board for a consideration for a formal 160 00:14:26,370 --> 00:14:30,170 process. So sir, mind or out there shout out for that one. Thank you. 161 00:14:30,210 --> 00:14:35,450 Steve, could question on that if I may? Is that something that the North County can 162 00:14:35,450 --> 00:14:41,050 participate online? Yes, so it'll be similar to a board meeting be held here and they can 163 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:46,150 they can come in and call in and that link is available to us. Okay, and if I could just ask a 164 00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:50,310 If you could send me a link to that, I will post that for the folks up there. 165 00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:51,410 Sure, thank you for that. 166 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:52,110 No problem at all. 167 00:14:52,290 --> 00:14:53,150 Thank you. 168 00:14:54,170 --> 00:14:54,890 Excuse me, I'm confused. 169 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:59,970 I thought the intent was that there would be community meetings in different parts of the... 170 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,360 County including in North County. Yes, that is also part of the plan, and it is the intent, and we'll 171 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,540 do that as well. But if anybody wants to participate, they can call in at any meeting that we 172 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:15,820 have that available. Thank you. 173 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:26,010 Anybody else this morning? 174 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Chair, if I may ask a question. 175 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:41,120 Sure. This is board presentation from normally chairman or department heads. I notice there's 176 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,240 And one that has not made an appointment or shown up for some time and has the auditor. 177 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:54,020 And I wondered if we could extend an invitation to him today, perhaps maybe come after board 178 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,900 recognitions, because we have a retirement to look at and some folks there, but before 179 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:04,040 regular agenda, maybe we could extend an invitation for him to come. 180 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:09,180 I think he owes it to the citizens of Marepozo to let us know where we are. 181 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:14,940 Sure, if you want to. 182 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,220 I'll summarize the four sides. 183 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:18,780 First of all, Jill Lynch County administrative officer. 184 00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:23,160 An invitation was given for today for the auditor's office, 185 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,360 and they had some unforeseen issues with payroll this month, 186 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,640 and Luis, let me know that in the next week or two, 187 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,760 at the audits completion, you will come to the board to give a presentation. 188 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:40,640 I know we were looking at the end of September we're known to October. 189 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:51,440 So, I mean, a 10-minute update would not hurt the citizens of mere positive, find out where the 190 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:51,980 auditor is. 191 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,080 I mean, 10 minutes would not take a lot out of his time, and he's just down steps away from 192 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:57,940 this room. 193 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,500 I will re-extend the invitation now and let you know the answer. 194 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:05,060 Okay, thank you, sir. 195 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:09,450 Let me ask a question here. 196 00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:18,030 Does anybody kept track of the dates that we've been given so far over the course of the last year? 197 00:17:18,650 --> 00:17:24,130 I'm just curious how many times and what the dates are that that's been pushed out? 198 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:32,570 because we're now in like supervisor forcices into October and I seem to remember a January 199 00:17:32,570 --> 00:17:47,530 deadline February March June August September and do we have any thing that we could I think 200 00:17:47,530 --> 00:17:56,090 I guess you guys get what our point is here, we're very frustrated, and I agree 100% with what 201 00:17:56,090 --> 00:18:01,690 supervisor Forsyth says, I can see how building that he is in, he could walk over here. 202 00:18:01,990 --> 00:18:05,430 Jeremy comes almost every time, Shannon Hanson comes. 203 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:10,070 We have a lot of the other directors here, and it would just be nice, I think, for him to 204 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:11,050 address that. 205 00:18:11,230 --> 00:18:11,870 Thank you. 206 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:27,580 So the CIO is again, relaying our desire to have a moment of his time here today. 207 00:18:29,420 --> 00:18:29,920 Thank you, gentlemen. 208 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,020 We'll move on to public comment on nonagenda items. 209 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:38,280 And this is for items within the jurisdiction of this board, not on today's agenda. 210 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,360 Speakers are limited to five minutes. 211 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Please note that state law does not allow action to be taken on any item, 212 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:46,640 not appearing on the agenda. 213 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:53,380 But unless the action is otherwise authorized by a government code section, no conclusion should 214 00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:59,000 be drawn if the board does not respond to public comment on non agenda items at this 215 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,460 time. 216 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,400 And again, if you're on the phone, start 5, get your recognized for your comment. 217 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,260 Floors open for public comment on non agenda items. 218 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:15,480 Good morning, everybody. 219 00:19:19,060 --> 00:19:20,340 Good morning, John. 220 00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:28,580 I mean, it should be mandatory that this gentleman or lady, I think it's a gentleman, come 221 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:31,740 once a month, 10 minutes, 15 minutes. 222 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,220 We have presentations by a lot of other groups that come and spend half an hour, whatever 223 00:19:37,220 --> 00:19:50,320 15 minutes and give us a presentation should be part of his job, should be in his, you know, 224 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:56,620 to come and say, you know, we all pay taxes, we all pay your salaries, you know, it's like 225 00:19:56,620 --> 00:20:00,540 show me something. All right. Thank you. Thank you. 226 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:20,570 Okay. All right. We will move on from 227 00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:29,590 public comment on on agenda items right into board recognitions. And this morning we're going to 228 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:37,530 recognize Kathy Garrett, there we go now, we're getting the wake. We're going to recognize 229 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:42,590 Kathy on her many years of service to the county and her retirement today. 230 00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:50,780 More and more. 231 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:51,300 Good morning. 232 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:54,620 So, Chris Bernard and time chief of Mariposa County Calfire. 233 00:20:56,340 --> 00:21:01,440 Senior on behalf of Chief Wardie. Unfortunately, stuck out of state, his flight was delayed 234 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:07,040 multiple times and I know he reached out to you guys that let you know and he is very depressed, 235 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:14,360 they can be here and when the extent is sorry for that, but he's going to try and listen and 236 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,600 he told me you try to call in a possible, he's walking through TSA right now so I don't know 237 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,960 that's going to work out. 238 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:28,100 Anyways, I'll say a few words on Chief Ford asked me to speak a little bit on some of the stuff. 239 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:31,640 He felt, and just wanted to get out there. 240 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,100 So these are two forward words. 241 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,100 So when I came in as a position four years ago, 242 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,780 Kathy was my go-to, and four years later, 243 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,500 Kathy still my go-to. 244 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:46,020 So Kathy is the matriarch of our office 245 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:48,460 and most everything runs through her. 246 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,480 She was a person, our volunteer's ask for first. 247 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,980 She was the person that made sure 248 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,180 our processes stayed within county policy. 249 00:21:56,700 --> 00:22:00,620 She kept me straight, which let's face it's a full-time job in the cell. 250 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:05,840 We went through a lot of change together at the county fire. 251 00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:11,900 She was dealing with new chief, COVID, new offices, and new thought processes, et cetera, 252 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:13,920 on top of the new Oracle. 253 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:21,100 So many changes for a person whose personality and thought process did not like change. 254 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:27,980 One particular change we made together was recognition of the workload she and 255 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:29,980 officer-sistened Kathy Diaz were taking on. 256 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:46,160 They truly were doing the work of three people. Fortunately, we were able to promote Kathy and Kathy Diaz, while it's bringing in a new office assistant, Tracy. Kathy stayed true to herself and eventually got us trained up, well, Kathy and Tracy anyways, not so much more. 257 00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:59,340 There are many examples of her sacrifice to the department and every day having to remind her it's go home time at five o'clock and she eventually gets out of there around five thirty. 258 00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:15,420 One of our greatest examples of work will continue through the training of Kathy Es, who will be taking her leadership role in office and Kathy leaves our office in good standing and going to retirement with her head hill high and a job well done and thank you. 259 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:23,120 So yeah, and also on my behalf, I came in two years ago and I had kind of no idea what 260 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,000 I was doing. 261 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,440 Chief Ford was helping me, but my every day go to West Kathy and everybody else is too. 262 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:31,480 So just thank you so much. 263 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:32,540 Thank you, Chris. 264 00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:38,140 Not Chief Ford is on the telephone, so go ahead, Steve. 265 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:42,120 Hey, can you guys hear me? 266 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:48,280 All right, good morning, Mariposa, from Denver, Colorado, on my second flight to Lake 267 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Anyway, I just wanted to be able to call in, I appreciate Chris being able to say those 268 00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:00,840 words for me, but again, I just wanted to reinforce how much Kathy's meant to me and to 269 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,160 in the county fire department, you know, like we said, like it said earlier, like I stated 270 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,780 Chris, you know, four years ago. She was my go-to. She has my go-to. She is what made everything 271 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:18,500 ticked there. Everything ramped to her. She was when we were very first there. All acknowledge 272 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:25,000 the fact that she was doing the work of three. Katie or Kathy Diaz was brand new just coming 273 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,580 into the office. So she was being trained and then I would watch Kathy just countless hours. 274 00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:48,440 She would spend beyond five o'clock, just trying to make sure everything was straight in the office, make sure the process was being followed, trying to explain what agreements were to me, trying to explain to me why processes happened a certain way within the county, as I was still trying to learn. 275 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,100 So, you know, over the years and like I said, 276 00:24:53,260 --> 00:24:54,420 over the years, you'll be able to show, 277 00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:57,020 it'll be able to show as County Fire continues. 278 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,380 They work that she put in and the mentorship 279 00:25:00,380 --> 00:25:03,060 that she gave all of us and how she led us 280 00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:06,740 in that office, how things will continue to improve 281 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:08,080 beyond what she's done. 282 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,800 And I just wanna acknowledge her, 283 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,780 Burt her work and the work that she put in, 284 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,500 making everything the session planning for County Fire, 285 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,840 making that all whole. And so again, like I said, I think she can write off from the sunset 286 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,760 with her head held high. She did a great job. And I think County Fire is going to be successful 287 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,700 and we're in a much better place because of her. Thank you. Thank you, 288 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:37,360 Steve. Thank you, board. 289 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Okay. Let's take some public comment on this recognition. Is what we do? So any floor is open to 290 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,920 public comment on this recognition. 291 00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:53,200 And if you're on the phone line, start five. 292 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:59,600 Is it already pushed? It's on patience. Okay. Patience good. I'm the fire inspector. 293 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,780 I love this lady. I got hired right before war did. I was eight months pregnant. 294 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,940 She's been amazing throughout silly everything. Like he said, like she's been the backbone. 295 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:24,060 She's been there longer than everybody else, but she's not that kind of person who's just like, I'm there for all the work stuff, but she's also there for life stuff in general. 296 00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:29,260 She's been that kind of person who my kid comes into the office running to her, you know. 297 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,500 So it's been amazing to be able to work with her and have somebody who knows what they're doing. 298 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:43,000 And that's so important in the position she's in because it's one of those things that people don't think about all the 299 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:52,580 back work behind being a firefighter and she does all the behind the scenes. And I have been moving up in my career and 300 00:26:52,580 --> 00:27:08,120 getting all the trainings that I need, and without her behind me getting me in those classes and getting me in those trainings and making sure everything is paid for and everything is set for me to do those things. I would not be able to continue in my career and be where I am without her being there. 301 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,720 I just want to say she's amazing. 302 00:27:27,660 --> 00:27:28,820 Rose time. 303 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:35,120 Oh, Jeremy Brace Sheriff, I just want to say on behalf of the Sheriff's Office. 304 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:42,760 And myself, obviously, congratulations, retirement is a great thing, but we've worked 305 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:49,480 throughout the years, either side by side at some point one time we kind of held a portion 306 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:56,240 of Ev County Fire, which was weird, but I would say always when I was a younger 307 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,900 deputy and then in the management, if you ever had a pop into 308 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:05,720 County Fire, Kathy was there, like they say go to, would drop whatever she's doing, 309 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:10,700 help you out, and then as, you know, through through the years going through OES, 310 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:16,200 and the different morphings of departments, she's always been there. 311 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:24,580 I know our undershare of Kevin Packard has nothing but great things and great working relationship 312 00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:29,920 with Kathy as she is down there in the OES unit and again just the partnership with the 313 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:37,000 Sheriff's Office and County Fire is just just like Ann or Cal Fire buddies is what the 314 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,580 team work is, everything about when it comes to one mission, one fight and it doesn't matter 315 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:50,880 if you're a firefighter or sheriff, when the disaster or the incident hits the road, 316 00:28:51,460 --> 00:28:58,580 we all jump in, but again, there's individuals such as Kathy that are behind the scenes that 317 00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:04,120 you may not always see, but to make sure the policies are followed or to make sure there's 318 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,020 money in the piggy bank to buy the fire hoses, she's always a go-to there. So anyways, congratulations 319 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:13,860 on your retirement. I'm behalf of the entire Sheriff's Office. Thank you. 320 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:31,710 Steering for Planning Director, I just wanted to share the sentiment here for Kathy. 321 00:29:33,010 --> 00:29:38,090 I was able to get to know Kathy a little bit. Everyone knows this, but after the three mortality 322 00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:42,330 task force and the Maripose County Fire Advisory Committee was established, the planning 323 00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:46,670 department was working with the Fire Department on the administration of that committee. 324 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:53,230 And it's a great group and Kathy spent countless hours working with me to make sure 325 00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:56,290 agendas were out and just hand in hand. 326 00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:59,830 And through that time, I also got to know her a little bit personally and it comes to find out. 327 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Or husband, Mike, who's here with us right now, Mike, goes to the beach a lot. He's an e-border. 328 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,440 And it turns out, actually, Kathy, I hope that you have an opportunity to spend some time 329 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,860 going to the beach with Mike now, and watching him out there, and he's not out there 330 00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:22,220 running around by himself. But I just wanted to make sure that everyone knows that Kathy did 331 00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:28,000 it. Excellent job, and I'll miss you from that. And I wish you well for your retirement. 332 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440 They have the plenty of parliament in myself. 333 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,600 All right. 334 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,420 We'll close public comment on that. 335 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,820 I'll bring it back to the board. 336 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Supervisor Forsyth. 337 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,460 Thank you, Chair. 338 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,100 Kathy, congratulations on retirement. 339 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,740 It's amazing. 340 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,440 You are kind of an example of all the dedicated servants we have that work for the county. 341 00:31:06,020 --> 00:31:07,040 You're behind the scenes. 342 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,580 You're the ones that make it all happen. 343 00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:16,620 And I really appreciate how you have been an example to not only the fire department, but even us here at the board. 344 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,040 Anytime I go over to the office, you're always got a smile, help very helpful. 345 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:22,540 So thank you and congratulations. 346 00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:26,880 Congratulations. 347 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:30,680 I hope you can do everything that you've wanted to do for years. 348 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,740 But I wanted to thank you for all your years of selflessness and your loyalty. 349 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:40,640 you're leaving some big shoes to fill. I know that I know County Fire will 350 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,820 miss you greatly as we all will. Congratulations. 351 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:50,410 Supervisor Smolkel. 352 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:53,770 I just want to 353 00:31:53,770 --> 00:32:02,850 add my thanks, Kathy. And I noted in the certificate of recognition that you 354 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:09,010 supported and coordinated several major changes within the Maraposa 355 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:15,110 County Fire Department, such as the implementation of two fire chiefs, two assistant chiefs 356 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:20,910 and one share of all with different philosophies, work priorities, administrative needs, 357 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:26,190 and operational urgencies that you ensured met county processes and policies. 358 00:32:26,650 --> 00:32:32,550 That is truly an accomplishment and for what it's worth, I'm working now with Jim Wilson 359 00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:40,340 again. So on Firewise Recognition and Pond of Recivation, he's moved back here. You've been through a lot, 360 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:44,290 and thank you for managing all of that. 361 00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:49,750 Yes, congratulations, Kathy. 362 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:56,090 It's always hard to let the 363 00:32:56,090 --> 00:33:01,950 good ones go, and whoever I didn't catch the name was stepping up behind you, but you got 364 00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:05,230 40-day watch out for, so good luck with that. 365 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:11,580 Okay, board, I need some action on this item. 366 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,240 Professor Smolko. 367 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,180 Somebody go. 368 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,120 Okay, I moved that this board recognized the retirement 369 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600 of County Fire Executive Assistant Kathy Garrett. 370 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,420 Thank you. 371 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,800 And I'll be happy to second it. 372 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,300 All right, it's been moved in seconded. 373 00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:31,440 We approve this recognition, all in favor, say aye. 374 00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:32,200 Aye. 375 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,260 Any opposed, any abstain? 376 00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:38,100 and the recognition is approved unanimously. 377 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,320 Okay, if you'll meet me over here. 378 00:34:07,730 --> 00:34:07,990 Hello? 379 00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:08,810 It's on. 380 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:11,160 Okay. 381 00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:17,620 A resolution recognizing Kathy Garrett for her outstanding service to Mariposa County. 382 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Whereas Kathy begin began her career with Cal Fire as an office assistant June 1, 2008, 383 00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:30,440 and continued through July 13, 2015. 384 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:38,140 Before being promoted to fire services assistant, July 14, 2015, and worked in this position 385 00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:48,480 through July 1, 2017, whereas Kathy reclassified from the fire services assistant to office 386 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:55,140 technician in July 1, 2017 through September 30, 2023. 387 00:34:55,140 --> 00:35:01,300 She then promoted to executive assistant on October 1, 2023. 388 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:09,860 And whereas Kathy will officially retire after 16 years today, October 1, 2024. 389 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:17,500 And whereas Kathy has been a part of supported and coordinated, several major changes 390 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:23,380 with the Mariposa County Fire Department, such as the implementation of two fire chiefs, 391 00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:30,540 to assistant chiefs, one sheriff, all with different philosophies, working priorities, administrative 392 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:36,940 needs and operational agencies that she insured met county processes and policies. 393 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,200 And whereas Kathy was the gatekeeper for the safer, grant volunteer fire membership program, 394 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:52,200 she processed paperwork, oversaw county processes and policies were followed, tracked stipend 395 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640 spending and generated reports. 396 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:58,320 And where Azkathy was a part of the coordination and 397 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,080 processing for the Maraposa County Fire Fleet 398 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,200 replacement from 2009 through 2010, as well as the 399 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,860 building of our four new county fire stations. 400 00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,160 And where Azkathy was involved in the coordination, 401 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480 training and processing of many assistance by 402 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,360 higher buildings that have brought and 403 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,780 significant funding to the county over the course of her career. 404 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:28,760 And whereas Kathy has been an active participant in the relay for life for life, representing 405 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:35,220 the Mariposa County Fire team, and whereas Kathy has been part of many significant milestones 406 00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:42,260 with Mariposa County Fire, always contributing her knowledge and experience, such as the transition 407 00:36:42,260 --> 00:36:46,320 of the Fire Department Command and Control to Cal Fire. 408 00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:52,420 The Expansion of the Prevention Program, the first ever paid reserve firefighter program, 409 00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:59,060 the Expansion of Office Personnel, onboarded countless numbers of volunteers and paid 410 00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:06,860 staff over the years, restructured fiscal tracking in Oracle, and whereas Kathy has been 411 00:37:06,860 --> 00:37:13,960 hardworking and was the lynch pen to administration. She was a can-do will-do employee almost 412 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,400 to a fault and always strives to ensure that all her fellow employees and departments were 413 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,900 supported. And whereas Kathy looks forward to many more beach camping trips with her husband, 414 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Mike, spending time with family and friends doing various home projects. 415 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:40,080 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors of Mariposa County, a political subdivision 416 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:47,140 of the State of California, hereby recognizes and commands, Kathy Garrett, citizens of Mariposa County 417 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:54,040 and wishes her a long and happy retirement. Passed and adopted by the Board of Supervisors, Mariposa County 418 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,500 on the first day of October, 2024 by unanimous vote. 419 00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:25,890 Any family or co-workers? 420 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:29,210 I want to come up and get in this photo. 421 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:30,530 Come on. 422 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,300 Test for 15 minutes. 423 00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:00,040 15? 424 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:00,760 20? 425 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,620 Okay. 426 00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:02,540 All right. 427 00:39:28,820 --> 00:39:29,420 Okay. 428 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,120 Okay. 429 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:31,540 Okay. 430 00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:31,580 Okay. 431 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:32,160 You did it. 432 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,900 You'll, it's actually just been a big hit. 433 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:34,360 Okay. 434 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,680 It's just out there in your hand. 435 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:38,000 No. 436 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,500 I'm going to go in. 437 00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:34,560 Okay, folks, we're going to reconvene. If everybody will take their seats and before we, before we get into our regular agenda, 438 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,900 I'm going to let the CAO let us know what he heard from the auditor. 439 00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:56,740 Good morning, Joe Lynch, kind of administrative officer. I just want to let the public in the audience know that Luis Marcato, our auditor did respond that he will be at our Board of Supervisors meeting next week with an update. 440 00:54:56,740 --> 00:55:03,280 And just a reminder for the audience and the community, the auditor is elected by the people 441 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:10,500 and is not supervised by this board or the county administrative office, so we can't direct him to come to the meeting. 442 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,000 We invite him to come and he has accepted the invitation for next week. 443 00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:22,640 Okay. 444 00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:28,660 We will get into our regular agenda items and this first item is from Public Works. 445 00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:34,820 And we're going to receive a presentation from Pacific gas and electric regarding the progress 446 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:42,240 of underground power lines, road restoration, vegetation management, and power pole clearing 447 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:42,760 efforts. 448 00:55:47,410 --> 00:55:49,310 Good morning, Board Chan, a handsome public work director. 449 00:55:49,530 --> 00:55:52,870 I just wanted to do a quick introduction of Nathan Alonzo and his team. 450 00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:57,630 As you know, there's a lot of underground construction taking place in a PG&E vegetation 451 00:55:57,630 --> 00:55:58,250 management. 452 00:55:58,530 --> 00:56:00,230 So they're here to discuss that. 453 00:56:00,230 --> 00:56:06,290 We'd like to invite PG&E about quarterly to come up and let the community and the board know what's going on in the community. 454 00:56:06,990 --> 00:56:08,750 So I'll pass it over to Nathan. 455 00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:10,610 Okay. 456 00:56:10,770 --> 00:56:11,290 Check one, two. 457 00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:12,110 We're live. 458 00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:14,010 Good morning. 459 00:56:14,610 --> 00:56:15,730 Chair, penetrate. 460 00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:22,230 Board, Joe, Shannon, other Joe, and team. 461 00:56:22,850 --> 00:56:26,770 Nathan Alonzo, your government affairs representative for Pacific Gas Electric. 462 00:56:27,310 --> 00:56:31,410 It's a pleasure to be with you here this morning to give you a quick update on a number 463 00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:34,790 of items which you listed before we jump into it. 464 00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:41,970 I'd love to introduce Friend and colleague with me here this morning, Kevin, who's part 465 00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:48,390 of our under-grounding and restoration team, we'll be giving you some updates on where work 466 00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:53,290 stands here in Mariposa and hopefully get to answer some questions of yours in the public 467 00:56:53,290 --> 00:56:54,230 here this morning. 468 00:56:55,890 --> 00:57:01,210 So as this is a PG&U presentation, I always like to talk about safety, but because we are in 469 00:57:01,210 --> 00:57:06,070 the time of year that we are, yet to have a go bag in case wildfire breaks out or in case 470 00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:08,030 a significant weather event happens. 471 00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:14,830 Usually I like to really stress this in most of the counties that I represent, but I need 472 00:57:14,830 --> 00:57:17,290 not preach this to folks in Mariposa County. 473 00:57:17,690 --> 00:57:21,710 You guys are veterans in emergency preparedness and fire safety. 474 00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:28,890 So, things that we'll talk to you about a little bit about wildfire risk and where it stands today. 475 00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:31,670 Undergrounding, clean up in a road restoration. 476 00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:40,810 We'll touch within the clean up and road restoration items and differentiate between temporarily restoration and permanent restoration. 477 00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:49,970 And then we'll get into a big wildfire reduction risk effort that's underway now and has been since the beginning of August, which is our pole clearing effort. 478 00:57:51,500 --> 00:58:08,500 So, you've all seen our layers of protection, the bedrock of that, and probably the thing that reduces wildfire risk the most significantly, is our undergrounding program, a couple years ago our CEO committed to $10,000 of undergrounding, we're chipping away at it year after year. 479 00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:11,260 Mayor of the county has been a big recipient of 480 00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:12,500 undergrounding miles. 481 00:58:13,060 --> 00:58:14,600 A lot of that has happened in the Oak Fire 482 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,620 footprint, as all of you have seen. 483 00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:22,220 And although undergrounding is the best 484 00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:24,240 a tool for wildfire risk reduction, 485 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,320 there's a little bit of pain along the way, 486 00:58:26,380 --> 00:58:27,920 which is the road component of it, 487 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,000 which we'll be talking about. 488 00:58:29,820 --> 00:58:32,120 But on overhead distribution, we have enhanced powerline 489 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,380 safety settings, we have new technologies 490 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:42,220 and diagnostics that go along towards helping us identify some issues like grids 491 00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:45,740 gop, which has been deployed throughout the county and then other situational 492 00:58:45,740 --> 00:58:51,740 awareness tools that we have like our weather stations and other tools on our 493 00:58:51,740 --> 00:58:57,820 distribution system. So a lot of hardening is happening on our distribution 494 00:58:57,820 --> 00:59:02,240 system. The county is this year receiving an actual will be receiving miles in 495 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:10,180 what we call a covered conductor and that is going towards welfare risk reduction work 496 00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:14,560 but most of all hardening our distribution system within the county which will hopefully 497 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,760 help reduce customer impacts and a lot of the adages that you have seen over the course of 498 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:27,680 the last couple of years. So like I said one of the biggest tools for reducing welfare risk 499 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:33,240 undergrounding with a 98% reduction in overall wildfire risk where undergrounding is deployed. 500 00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:44,790 So we are prioritizing undergrounding in areas that have the highest wildfire risk, or 501 00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:50,870 wildfire risk, or high fire risk areas, or detailed in the map there, pretty much your 502 00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:55,730 entire counties in that, except for some of the low-lying grasslands, but low-lying grasslands 503 00:59:55,730 --> 00:59:58,990 have ignition risks of their own. 504 01:00:00,270 --> 01:00:06,350 So, this is the map that we look at when we look to prioritize undergrounding work. 505 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:15,950 So, so far, in 2024, 250 miles of undergrounding system wide, about 160 of those still in construction, 506 01:00:18,070 --> 01:00:21,770 and the work will continue over the course of the next several years. 507 01:00:21,770 --> 01:00:31,050 We would point out that in our general rate case, out of the 1200 miles that we requested 508 01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:37,210 over the course of the next three years, we were approved for about 800 of them. 509 01:00:37,930 --> 01:00:45,290 And so the CPUC believed that, under running, yes, is the biggest invest tool for wildfire 510 01:00:45,290 --> 01:00:49,790 risk reduction, but also a covered conductor provided significant wildfire risk reduction. 511 01:00:49,790 --> 01:00:53,410 at a fraction of the price of undergrounding. 512 01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:55,590 So it's a balance over the next couple of years 513 01:00:55,590 --> 01:00:57,230 between undergrounding and covered conductor. 514 01:00:58,130 --> 01:00:59,550 So what does the work look like here? 515 01:01:01,030 --> 01:01:04,250 So this year, 24 miles completed of undergrounding 516 01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:09,930 with five, four casted, or 24 completed through 2023 517 01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:12,890 with five, four casted be completed by the end of this year. 518 01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:17,550 And then over the course of the next about year and a half 519 01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:26,450 another 13 on the way and on the map you see where that work is happening and the overlap 520 01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:32,950 with the high fire risk area which like I said is most of your county. So the covered conductor 521 01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:39,230 or the insulated wire, big heavy wire and because of the big heavy wire it requires replacement 522 01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:44,150 of our distribution poles, the wooden poles over to steel poles. A lot of that work already happening 523 01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:49,990 in the county, 22 miles through the end of last year, three happening this year with 62, 524 01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:52,370 happening over the course of the next two. 525 01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:57,330 So that's where we see that balance between the undergrounding and the overhead conductor, 526 01:01:58,030 --> 01:02:04,290 still providing significant amount of wildfire risk reduction, and overall reliability boost 527 01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:11,530 at a fraction of the price, and this is us balancing the mandate that the CPUC put on us by 528 01:02:11,530 --> 01:02:13,570 they decided to fund our work. 529 01:02:15,550 --> 01:02:21,490 So another component of risk reduction is line removal. 530 01:02:22,590 --> 01:02:27,910 So line removal may be lines that are outdated, and we have found other ways to feed 531 01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:34,610 a customer or a business, or some of these may be what we call privately-owned lines that 532 01:02:34,610 --> 01:02:39,250 the owner has surrendered the infrastructure or have determined that they no longer can safely 533 01:02:39,250 --> 01:02:40,250 maintain the infrastructure. 534 01:02:40,970 --> 01:02:57,930 So we go and we take over a privately owned line or are able to streamline the way that other lines are operated and so four miles completed through the end of last year, three miles this year with a little bit more work underway over the course of the next two years. 535 01:02:59,310 --> 01:03:00,430 So, 536 01:03:02,890 --> 01:03:11,370 we are going to be submitting our tenure under grounding plan to our regulators in the coming weeks and months. 537 01:03:12,350 --> 01:03:23,850 And the criteria remains the same, which is a wildfire risk reduction in key areas where the highest risk exists and where we are able to impact the most amount of customers. 538 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:34,790 So phase one is that by June we were supposed to deliver a preliminary plan of what 539 01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:40,730 18 year forecast looks like to the CPUC and then by mid year next year I think we'll have 540 01:03:41,470 --> 01:03:45,230 the elements of a financial plan and it'd be ready for approval. 541 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,260 So at this point I am going to 542 01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:58,240 hand it over to Kevin, talk a little bit more about the work and the restoration efforts 543 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,740 being done around undergrounding and the roads here in the community. 544 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:03,960 Good morning, everyone. 545 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,420 Good morning. I'm going to stand up if you don't mind. 546 01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:11,570 So, my name is Kevin. I'm a construction manager with PG&E. 547 01:04:13,130 --> 01:04:16,750 So, basically, I handle what we would call a contract construction, which is just 548 01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:21,410 instead of PG&E doing the work, obviously, we have limited resources when it comes to 549 01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:25,590 how much we can actually do is to be contract to work out, and those are the people that 550 01:04:25,590 --> 01:04:27,510 actually come and do the work for us. 551 01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:30,530 So basically we've got going on here. 552 01:04:32,190 --> 01:04:35,030 This is sort of the, I guess you call it the path to construction, right? 553 01:04:35,110 --> 01:04:39,590 So scoping surveying, which is what we do for those you've seen this out there before we actually 554 01:04:39,590 --> 01:04:40,470 get on site. 555 01:04:40,570 --> 01:04:42,390 It's a bunch of stakes, right? 556 01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:46,970 And then a whole sea of yellow vests show up, and everybody's running around looking 557 01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:47,270 at stuff. 558 01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:49,590 So that's when we get scoping surveying. 559 01:04:49,590 --> 01:04:58,090 The design aspect, that's all office stuff where they hand basically built a job package for us and tell us how we're going to build a system. 560 01:04:59,350 --> 01:05:04,430 So a pre-construction preparation tree work, it's all over the hat team, probably since it's last two years, right? 561 01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:07,030 People come, we have a whole bunch of people come out. 562 01:05:07,690 --> 01:05:10,210 Basically, anything that's going to be in the way we take out the way, right? 563 01:05:10,330 --> 01:05:14,810 And then, so that's separate from regular vegetation work that's done by PG&E. 564 01:05:16,060 --> 01:05:24,020 So basically construction and plan outages, I mean that's two to three three, you know, they put all these time firms in there, but they really can't depend on the project. 565 01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:30,860 So typically we go about a three month construction window, sometimes it can go as much as six months, just depending on how big the job is. 566 01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:36,060 So trenches and solo equipment energize, so basically it's. 567 01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:38,080 We dig trenches. 568 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:43,180 We put the equipment in the ground, we set paths, and then it starts a whole 569 01:05:43,180 --> 01:05:47,240 other section of construction, or it's actually de-energizing what's 570 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,960 originally there and taking everything out. 571 01:05:49,740 --> 01:05:51,980 So what we've seen before is we have trenches in the road. 572 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:58,200 We do temporary restoration, which can be like coal patch, or cutback as we call it. 573 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,940 Hot makes the asphalt, which is basically all you're doing is covering the trench with 574 01:06:01,940 --> 01:06:06,120 the temporary surface, just to make sure it doesn't get destroyed. 575 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:14,300 You know, we can't, there's certain things we can do and we can't do, but basically temporary asphalt goes down, so it's a patch, and then as soon as the job is 576 01:06:15,660 --> 01:06:20,260 We're cutting call it mostly done, so any heavy equipment we have in there anything like that 577 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:31,180 We're going to save final restoration until all that work is complete because we don't want to put new asphalt down and then destroy it all with heavy equipment when we're taking all the rest of the stuff out 578 01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:38,380 So, that's typically, we try to get it done the same year, the plan for our program is 579 01:06:38,380 --> 01:06:45,340 to be constructed, wrecked out in restored in one season, right? 580 01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:52,040 So, typically we're going for Halloween as sort of like our cutoff date, no matter what. 581 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,360 So, it doesn't always work out, temperatures get too low. 582 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,040 We can't actually put it as fully in and meet the county standards for that. 583 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,420 So that's typically a way until spring of the next year to do that final restoration. 584 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,120 So we need a post construction here, which anybody who saw trying go, right? 585 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:12,540 We're still in post construction and we're some of those jobs have had done for a year, right? 586 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:19,100 So it's not always a real easy thing to do and so hopefully we're in the home stretch 587 01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:22,440 now so we should be done in two weeks with everything out there post construction. 588 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,780 So what you're seeing now is the interim right, so on your left side, right, that's the temporary restoration. 589 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:54,360 So we're just trenching, put in a slurry or rock or whatever, engineer material is in there, and then put in temporary asphalt on top of it. So on the right hand side, the left window you're seeing was just what we call a trench restoration overlay, where it's just, let's say there's a eight inch trench in the center of that T-cut and then basically we're just filling in around it. 590 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,920 It's the further you go to the right, it's basically, it's a full trench, I don't know if that's 591 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,320 sorry, I can't really tell by the picture. 592 01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:10,560 But, you know, all the way to the right, you basically got it for in the shoulder, right, we have to restore a certain amount of footage to the shoulder. 593 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,940 So that's typically out here, it just kind of depends. 594 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:18,440 We have based all that up by a pavement condition index, that's provided by the county. 595 01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:21,720 We figure out what the restoration plan is going to be and how much pavement we're going to do. 596 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,640 This is actually a sort of an overview on what we've done so far. 597 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,880 And so let's say all triangle-dara jersey-dale. 598 01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:31,920 That was all projects from last year. 599 01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:33,880 Carson's was done this year. 600 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,940 And we're locking some of the oaks that's, I'm not sure, 601 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:38,880 that was general construction did that on our side, 602 01:08:39,220 --> 01:08:41,360 so I'm not sure if that got done this year or last year. 603 01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:44,740 But that's, so for the most part, 604 01:08:44,780 --> 01:08:47,240 everything we have on the lower right triangle jersey-dale-dara. 605 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,300 All that has been paved with the exception of Dara, 606 01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,380 where there's still waitin' on some chipsil 607 01:08:55,020 --> 01:08:57,580 and slurry for the rest of triangle 608 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,480 that is basically that's what's left to complete, 609 01:09:00,660 --> 01:09:02,320 but all the hot mix, that's all to down. 610 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,240 All the trinch and asphalt that was supposed to be done 611 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,880 is done and basically now we're just waiting on the finals, 612 01:09:09,140 --> 01:09:11,980 which is striping and slurry and stuff like that. 613 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,080 That's all I got, thank you. 614 01:09:17,220 --> 01:09:17,940 Thank you Kevin. 615 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,960 Now we'll jump into Polklering here within the county. 616 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,920 So, Polklering was done with the mind that this year we have experienced significantly 617 01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:33,460 longer duration of high temperatures as compared to last year. 618 01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:45,340 With that, fuel moisture has plummeted and the possibility and risk of ignition has dramatically increased. 619 01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:52,020 I don't think I need to make that point too much here to this county after the early summer 620 01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:55,480 and early fall that we are experiencing now. 621 01:09:56,740 --> 01:10:04,520 So yeah, it's significantly more risky this year when it comes to vegetation and ignition 622 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:04,960 risk. 623 01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:13,660 So, doing a little bit more on RN to help reduce the possibility of any ignition, our board 624 01:10:13,660 --> 01:10:20,800 directors and our leadership came up with a plan where we will be doing pole clearing efforts 625 01:10:21,460 --> 01:10:25,460 around distribution poles in high fire threat areas throughout our service territory. 626 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:27,900 So what does that look like? 627 01:10:28,460 --> 01:10:32,120 So beginning in August, I think I called each of you individually. 628 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,700 We're sending out the equivalent of a heavy duty gardening crew to go out and clear out the 629 01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:42,720 area within a ten-foot radius of all of our distribution poles. 630 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:48,740 So there's some pictures there that show you what it looks like the before and after on the before end 631 01:10:48,740 --> 01:10:53,840 If that vegetation that one looks decently green, but if it's a little bit drier the possibility of 632 01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:58,020 ignition or the risk of ignition if any sparking happens 633 01:10:58,780 --> 01:11:01,380 could lead to 634 01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:02,380 to a fire 635 01:11:02,380 --> 01:11:08,360 Whereas the after as you see if there's nothing there, then you significantly reduce the risk 636 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:15,520 So, Argoal was to do that in high five or third areas with most of the county here being either in a tier two or a tier three. 637 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,580 This was a very needed and I think worthwhile effort here in Mariposa. 638 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:27,240 So, Argoal was at 2,600 power line poles here within the county. 639 01:11:27,940 --> 01:11:31,360 Almost all of them have been completed as of September 10th. 640 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,420 So, I think by now we probably hit that 2,600. 641 01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:41,560 and the work is taking place in the communities listed here, and obviously our data 642 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,340 people don't know that Grovelin is not within Mayor Posit County. We will forgive them 643 01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:50,100 for that because I don't think there's any Mayor Posit County residents with a Grovelin address 644 01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:55,540 unless I'm wrong. But yeah, those are the communities where this work is happening. 645 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:04,160 And then we have our CAMZ files and maps that are available to the public and also to all of you 646 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,020 on the board, available through our website. 647 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,760 They show you are undergrowning forecasts, 648 01:12:12,380 --> 01:12:15,300 are line-hardening efforts, overhead-hardening, 649 01:12:15,460 --> 01:12:17,800 and then the line removal data as well. 650 01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:21,180 Then we have our data sharing portal, 651 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,400 where we talk a little bit more about this work 652 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,800 and make it a little more interactive. 653 01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:27,800 If you'd like access to the portal, 654 01:12:27,980 --> 01:12:31,080 we can get you access, just contact me 655 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,200 and we can work through that, and it gives you, 656 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,040 I said a quick snapshot and some data as to the work happening within the county. 657 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,720 And then for the public we have our Wildfire Safety Progress map tells you about all 658 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:50,740 this work that we're doing and gives you a snapshot of the infrastructure upgrades that 659 01:12:50,740 --> 01:12:55,980 we'll be making over the coming years and that's at pgenu.com for slash progress map. 660 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:57,860 And now we'll get to questions. 661 01:12:59,180 --> 01:12:59,980 Okay, thank you Nathan. 662 01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:03,440 Any clarifying questions before I go to public comment? 663 01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:06,500 All right. 664 01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:10,500 I'll put the floor to public comment on this presentation. 665 01:13:11,380 --> 01:13:13,160 I'm going to put the comment here this morning. 666 01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:19,690 Marina, you'll have to come up to the microphone and address your question to the board 667 01:13:19,690 --> 01:13:21,770 and we'll get them to answer it for you. 668 01:13:24,380 --> 01:13:25,700 It's not that big of deal. 669 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,560 I wondered what KMZ stood for. 670 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:29,240 Okay. 671 01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:30,320 Do you know? 672 01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:32,840 It's a very elegant map. 673 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,620 But I'll get you the definition of the acronym. 674 01:13:37,620 --> 01:13:38,960 I don't have it off of hand. 675 01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:40,300 But it refers to the map. 676 01:13:41,220 --> 01:13:44,280 A camsie file is pretty much like a 3D interactive file. 677 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,860 And it's an ability for you to go into a portal and look geographically at where work 678 01:13:50,860 --> 01:13:52,360 is happening with different overlays. 679 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:58,660 You can click on the left-hand side and we'll say, show me the work and show me where the 680 01:13:58,660 --> 01:14:02,420 high fire threat area exists and it will overlay the work over the high fire threat area. 681 01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:03,440 It's stuff like that. 682 01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:03,860 Yeah. 683 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:04,200 Thank you. 684 01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:05,180 You got it. 685 01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:07,040 Thank you Marina. 686 01:14:07,820 --> 01:14:14,860 Okay, so just before we go any further, the public comment comes to the board, when public comment is closed, I'll give you a chance to respond. 687 01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:15,560 Perfect. 688 01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:17,240 Okay. Go ahead, Mark. 689 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:24,650 Mark Norman, here in Mayor Pose of County. 690 01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:26,610 I was just wondering who should I contact? 691 01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:27,770 Get my property restored. 692 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:28,810 Okay. 693 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,640 And if you're on the phone line, and you want to make a comment, start five. 694 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:45,460 Get you to see you recognize you. 695 01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:46,900 Anybody else this morning? 696 01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:50,180 Well, 697 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:58,320 I control on F on F. 698 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,940 Control on the backfill. After we dig the transfer to pipe in, fill it with slurry and then we cover 699 01:15:06,940 --> 01:15:16,060 it with asphalt. There's needs to be somebody responsible for quality control because some 700 01:15:16,060 --> 01:15:24,600 of the patches out triangle der road out that way were just lousy and bad. And I know most of 701 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:31,560 is subcontractors, PG doesn't actually do the job, they sub it out to the people that do the 702 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:37,480 trenches and connect the lines, but just in my travels from Derro Road down triangle 703 01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:54,580 to 140, some of them spots were like, you almost have to split the trench, or use the 704 01:15:54,580 --> 01:16:00,440 into putting somebody out there that has quality control or I don't know if the county has control 705 01:16:00,980 --> 01:16:05,480 of putting somebody out to say no we don't accept this you need to do it again put more 706 01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:11,720 asphalt run a roller over it something that kind of keeps it smoothed out it looks good now 707 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:21,300 but it took them a while to get it to where it's good you know it's good to me you know but 708 01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:28,200 This other gentleman said, you know, the winter time was hot and cold and bouncing and it could just, it could pop up. 709 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:37,320 The other complain is corner of triangle and dare road, the good and they were digging, that's how they're going to ask them, they put sand down there. 710 01:16:37,480 --> 01:16:41,440 But was that all about? That was like worse for me. 711 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:49,340 And I don't know about anybody else but quality control to me was not up to par, even for me. 712 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:51,860 Thank you Jonathan. 713 01:16:51,860 --> 01:16:52,740 Anybody 714 01:16:58,780 --> 01:16:59,480 else? 715 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,360 No hands raised? 716 01:17:03,620 --> 01:17:03,940 Okay. 717 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,320 I'll close public comment. 718 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:06,940 Did you take notes? 719 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:07,620 I did. 720 01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:10,080 I'll leave you a chance to respond to those questions. 721 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,740 I'll go ahead and respond to the question on restoration. 722 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,800 We can go ahead and get your information and make sure that we address the specific property that you're talking about. 723 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,300 Be happy to do that. 724 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,900 Jonathan, we're sorry that you had that experience. 725 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:49,900 What I can tell you is two sets of folks have taken us and me specifically to see the quality and the issues around the temporary restoration work and those two sets of folks were the county board with supervisor foresight to took us out there to see the work happening and the temporary restoration in some of the issues. 726 01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:56,600 I think we were in his Jeep that had quite the bit of suspension on it, but we took that 727 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:02,020 feedback back to our team and we used it as an opportunity to learn and to get better. 728 01:18:03,140 --> 01:18:08,660 So he did that and also the second set of folks that took us out there to see the work, 729 01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:14,240 the issues, but that also held us accountable and communicate with us daily are Shannon 730 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:19,360 and Joe who are advocating not only for the board, but for all the residents who are 731 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:26,680 experiencing what the work is like, the impact of the delays, the traffic diversion, but also 732 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:32,720 the quality of the temporary reconstruction. So they have held us accountable and they're working 733 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:41,080 to make sure that we deliver a product to you as a resident of Mariposa that is acceptable for you 734 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:47,420 to drive on. I'll go back to the board and reiterate our commitment, which happened, I think a couple 735 01:18:47,420 --> 01:18:51,440 presentations ago is that we will return to you roads in 736 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:56,260 like or better condition. And they will be like or better condition 737 01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,040 based off of meetings that we have with public works pictures that we 738 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:06,520 take and the standards that we said. So that continues to be our 739 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:14,860 commitment to you. But like Kevin has said in like Shannon and 740 01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:19,840 know, we're working hard, we're working safely, and we're working accurately, 741 01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:22,980 but part of us 742 01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:28,940 wants the rain for the wildfire risk, but part of us is thinking if the temperature 743 01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:34,120 start dipping quickly, it may delay some of our road work. So, 744 01:19:36,460 --> 01:19:47,000 that's 745 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:49,900 the 746 01:19:49,900 --> 01:19:53,240 to your question about what KM Z stands for? 747 01:19:53,620 --> 01:19:55,640 It stands for, there's two different types. 748 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,100 One is a, it's called keyhole markup language 749 01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:03,720 and keyhole markup language Z, meaning what it is 750 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,420 is it's a mapped file that you can put a whole lot of data 751 01:20:06,420 --> 01:20:08,780 on, and why they come up with these terms 752 01:20:08,780 --> 01:20:10,980 is beyond me, because it doesn't make any sense 753 01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:14,240 whatsoever to name it that, so that answers your question. 754 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,740 But I had a question, a couple of questions 755 01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:21,440 in a couple of comments. You guys are doing a heck of a lot of work up in Greeley Hill. 756 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:29,480 Matter of fact, my power was out last week. You got it back on before the deadline. 757 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:38,100 But in just a little constructive criticism, if I may about par west. And I've got a lot of 758 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:43,620 complaints about these folks. And I've had interactions with a lot of them. They don't seem to 759 01:20:43,620 --> 01:20:50,560 customer service training that you guys do. I mean, you're pretty nice guy, Nathan. 760 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,460 We've known you for a couple years and all the guys out in the field that I've dealt 761 01:20:55,460 --> 01:21:01,940 with from PG are all really nice. These folks here are really stand-offish. And I even approached 762 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:09,240 them to ask them, hey, what are you guys going to do on, I was on dog town road? And what 763 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:14,400 was the impact. And he looked at me like, how dare you even ask me a question. I said, 764 01:21:14,540 --> 01:21:19,460 look, I'm not just an average Joe here. I represent the folks here at the County Supervisor. 765 01:21:19,580 --> 01:21:25,400 And when I said that, it is attitude obviously changed pretty quickly. But it's just not only 766 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:31,220 that, the worst complaint that I got was when the fire broke out down in Dom Pedro, 767 01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:36,680 one of our residents, actually a couple of our residents were down there being evacuated. 768 01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:41,780 and par west was down there and through a let's cigarette on the ground when 769 01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:46,700 over and snuffed it out in the grass. That's probably not cool. So I just wanted to 770 01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:51,080 give you a little constructive criticism on that that you can pass to the par west. 771 01:21:51,380 --> 01:21:52,940 It's telling to be nice. It's all made. 772 01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:55,560 But I had a question about, uh, 773 01:21:55,660 --> 01:22:00,120 undergrounding an overhead over, overhead hardening. I, I guess, 774 01:22:00,620 --> 01:22:03,720 you went through those pretty quick and I was, I wasn't real, 775 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:11,460 depth it keeping up. The overhead hardening, what it can be in layman's terms tell me what that 776 01:22:11,460 --> 01:22:18,540 is. Overhead hardening is that insulated wire that we were talking about. So right now you've got 777 01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:24,520 the steel wire running on the wooden distribution poles that we've always seen. Hardening is 778 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,980 it's pretty much two tiers. It's reducing the vegetation around the distribution poles. 779 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:41,840 But also upgrading the infrastructure that is the distribution system in that area with the steel poles that are rated to be able to hold the insulated heavier wire. 780 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:55,000 With insulated heavier wire, you reduce your wildfire risk, one, but two, you reduce your EPSS impact and the possibility of, you know, 781 01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:02,180 One of God's creatures scurrying across it getting zapped and they're being an outage or a branch falling on it and causing the outage. 782 01:23:02,220 --> 01:23:06,880 A lot of that's mitigated by having that hardened overhead distribution system. 783 01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:13,980 So the other question that I had was let me get back to the presentation here. 784 01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:17,000 It was about the polls. 785 01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:22,400 Is you guys, maybe you can find it quicker than I can here. 786 01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:26,900 It was a couple of thousand polls that you guys were replacing. 787 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:29,960 Polklering? 788 01:23:33,630 --> 01:23:37,010 No, I thought you guys, what's part of what's doing? 789 01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:37,950 What do you call that? 790 01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:39,350 What are replacing the polls? 791 01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:40,190 What's the terminology? 792 01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:43,070 I think that's probably part of the system hardening work, 793 01:23:43,290 --> 01:23:44,990 where they're replacing the wooden for the steel 794 01:23:44,990 --> 01:23:49,130 And the steel so that it can hold the insulated wire wrapped in rubber. 795 01:23:49,410 --> 01:23:52,330 I didn't see him put in any steel around our place, 796 01:23:52,830 --> 01:23:55,490 uh, angry the hill. They replaced wooden poles, 797 01:23:55,890 --> 01:23:59,050 rightfully so that wood beckers had pretty much destroyed them. 798 01:23:59,850 --> 01:24:02,210 But, um, and that's hardening as well. 799 01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:05,190 So if they're replacing wood for wood, 800 01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:09,910 it may just be part of, uh, regular, uh, maintenance. 801 01:24:10,090 --> 01:24:12,490 Yeah, regular maintenance or regular equipment and replacement. 802 01:24:13,210 --> 01:24:14,850 Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you. 803 01:24:14,850 --> 01:24:16,970 I appreciate it, thank you chair. You got it. 804 01:24:20,930 --> 01:24:25,810 Thank you chair. Thank you. Excuse me, Nathan and Kevin for your presentation. 805 01:24:27,310 --> 01:24:35,630 I am interested in, I don't know, it's what you will see in your neighborhood. I guess it's the chart. 806 01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:42,930 It's page 336 in our agenda packet, but I don't know what the corresponding number is in your 807 01:24:42,930 --> 01:24:45,150 And this is in regards to... 808 01:24:45,150 --> 01:24:47,150 Yeah, so this is what Kevin covered. 809 01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:48,810 It's what you will see in your neighborhood. 810 01:24:48,810 --> 01:24:49,810 It's a process. 811 01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:55,030 And what I think would be helpful to me 812 01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:59,610 and to the listening audience is the conversations 813 01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:04,070 that you have with our public works folks. 814 01:25:05,850 --> 01:25:09,170 And once upon a time had a link to undergrounding, 815 01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:12,910 I tried getting in this morning and got an error message 816 01:25:12,910 --> 01:25:15,150 but that's something I can sort out, obviously, offline. 817 01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:22,490 But in terms of the process, so in that there was data on this is this is what we're 818 01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:26,490 going to be doing work here, this is what we're going to be doing work there, approximate 819 01:25:26,490 --> 01:25:34,070 dates, the type of activity that was anticipated, and I'm guessing that not only does our 820 01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:39,150 public work staff have access to that, but that they also are in conversation with you, 821 01:25:39,150 --> 01:25:47,570 because I recognize what Kevin was talking about, schedule's change, whether, you know, supply issues, 822 01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:55,530 whatever. And so what I'm interested in hearing from you and Shannon and Orjo, if they want to 823 01:25:55,530 --> 01:26:01,970 weigh in. But what is that look like when you say, all right, we're ready to go on this project over here. 824 01:26:02,410 --> 01:26:08,870 I'm assuming that you're in contact with our public works folks. So how does that conversation 825 01:26:09,150 --> 01:26:17,350 play out over time. So we are in constant conversation with them. One because they are our 826 01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:24,690 permit issuer. So we can't just go out willingly and just start work. So we are our project 827 01:26:24,690 --> 01:26:31,910 managers on the ground, Kevin and his team are in daily or sometimes multiple times a week 828 01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:38,330 communication with Joe and with Shannon to talk about what work we have coming up when the work 829 01:26:38,330 --> 01:26:45,910 starts, how the work is progressing, if there are any hiccups within the work, and then within 830 01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:50,870 the hiccups within the work is when we have conversations on, hey, what you're doing 831 01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:59,190 here is affecting this pocket of residents, the traffic diversion needed or the construction 832 01:26:59,190 --> 01:27:05,530 traffic is creating this issue. So all of that is happening in live time, and it's pretty 833 01:27:05,530 --> 01:27:14,290 much a conversation that never stops and the team here in public works is very, very direct 834 01:27:14,290 --> 01:27:19,410 to this and what the expectation is and what the needs are of the residents to minimize 835 01:27:19,410 --> 01:27:21,750 the impact that our construction has on them. 836 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:25,050 So it's something that's happening in real time all the time. 837 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:35,280 And I'm assuming that PG&E has standards to which they hold their contractors in terms of 838 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,540 quality of the product or the, I don't know, you probably don't call it a product, but 839 01:27:40,540 --> 01:27:44,140 No, it is a product that we have to deliver at the end and we do have standards. 840 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:55,740 And we do our best to put those in a contract to verbally ensure that the subcontractors 841 01:27:55,740 --> 01:27:57,940 are clear on what our expectation is. 842 01:27:57,940 --> 01:28:04,060 And the good thing is is that U.S. board and the Team of Public Works help us reinforce 843 01:28:04,060 --> 01:28:06,780 that to that subcontractor very firmly. 844 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,820 And if the product that we deliver at the end isn't to the expectation of the county 845 01:28:12,820 --> 01:28:17,000 of the Team of Public Works, Shannon and Joe have never been shy about telling us that. 846 01:28:17,380 --> 01:28:19,940 So they make sure that we do right by them. 847 01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:22,040 Okay, great. 848 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,160 Thank you very much for that clarification. 849 01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:27,730 Thank you, Chair. 850 01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:30,210 Thank you, Kevin, and Nathan for coming. 851 01:28:30,930 --> 01:28:32,350 I appreciate that very much. 852 01:28:33,630 --> 01:28:37,090 Yes, we spent a lot of time in a Jeep, and I knew every hole, 853 01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:38,710 and I made sure you hit them. 854 01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:39,550 All right, get them. 855 01:28:40,730 --> 01:28:42,410 So I appreciate that. 856 01:28:42,410 --> 01:28:44,330 And then we have sat around with public works, 857 01:28:44,530 --> 01:28:47,010 and some of your folks, your engineers, everything else, 858 01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:48,710 to explain our frustrations. 859 01:28:48,890 --> 01:28:49,710 And you have listened. 860 01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:52,670 It's been a slow process, but we're getting there. 861 01:28:53,970 --> 01:28:55,630 Kevin, I'm going to ask you some questions. 862 01:28:56,490 --> 01:29:03,690 One is, why not use, and I know it's expensive, but looking at the road repair and the 863 01:29:03,690 --> 01:29:09,830 aftermath and the time roads have been tore up, why would we not look at directional drilling? 864 01:29:10,150 --> 01:29:17,990 And I know it's come a long ways directional drilling, even hard rock that can get through it. 865 01:29:18,050 --> 01:29:24,350 I know it's sometimes slow at times, but it would save a lot of road work afterwards and a lot 866 01:29:24,350 --> 01:29:28,750 of roads being one lane, if you will. 867 01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:31,570 So why not, and I know they're using it up a paradise, 868 01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:32,790 I know they're using it elsewhere, 869 01:29:33,390 --> 01:29:35,030 why not on the East job, share and wear a poster? 870 01:29:36,170 --> 01:29:36,970 Okay, that's a good question. 871 01:29:38,150 --> 01:29:40,570 So, typically it's for the same reason to mention, 872 01:29:41,230 --> 01:29:42,870 it's expensive for one. 873 01:29:43,450 --> 01:29:45,190 To environmental leaders, a lot more restrictions 874 01:29:45,190 --> 01:29:47,830 with boring men you have with trenching. 875 01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:50,090 Basically, it comes down to like, 876 01:29:50,090 --> 01:29:50,870 all those things aside, 877 01:29:50,970 --> 01:29:52,890 let's say money wasn't an issue environmental stuff. 878 01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:56,770 we had figured out it was as easy as getting equipment out here to do the work. 879 01:29:56,990 --> 01:29:59,970 Well then, having qualified people that are licensed. 880 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,440 To do it with PG&E is an even harder task. So just getting the people in the equipment is probably the biggest piece of that, that's, that's the most difficult part to get. 881 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:31,580 Okay. So typically with trenching, it's, you get better production rates out of trenching than you do with, with boring. So there are situations where we have to do boring. And I think that's, you know, we utilize as much as we can, but it's just not really cost effective as you do. 882 01:30:31,580 --> 01:30:32,960 would project-wise. 883 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:39,880 And then it's, I mean, just to give you kind of a basic dollar amount, right? 884 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,840 Because this is not PG&E money we're spending. 885 01:30:41,900 --> 01:30:44,400 This is shareholder money, or this is all our money, right? 886 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,540 Because everybody here pays a PG&E bill and click on myself. 887 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,460 So this is, is rate payer money, and then, 888 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,920 trenching is the best way to do it for that dollar. 889 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,880 But it's, you know, just to just give you something that's supposed 890 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,280 to cost $100,000 with boring, just in general, 891 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:06,380 You can go from 100,000 to 300,000 in one minute because you get granted and you can't get through it. 892 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:11,120 That's just the way the pricing is, so it's just not very expensive. 893 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:18,720 I know it's expensive, but it just seems like to me it might be, in some cases, it might move us to look at it. 894 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,660 But I'm not going to take it out. 895 01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:21,700 I'll bring it out. 896 01:31:21,740 --> 01:31:22,280 I appreciate it. 897 01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:26,880 The other thing is this open trench, I understand it's faster than everything else. 898 01:31:27,420 --> 01:31:29,920 I know on some jobs or most jobs, 899 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,500 compaction tests are run. 900 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,620 Was that done in this case on Triangle Road 901 01:31:35,620 --> 01:31:39,080 because we had some compaction failure 902 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,980 on both ends of the project? 903 01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:43,940 So do you have an independent person 904 01:31:43,940 --> 01:31:46,020 coming in and doing compaction tests? 905 01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:48,560 Yeah, so I can't speak to what was done at the time. 906 01:31:49,220 --> 01:31:51,260 I'm gonna assume when we put engineered material in, 907 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,440 so popcorn, slurry, whatever. 908 01:31:52,860 --> 01:31:55,340 If we use an engineered material that comes with a curve, 909 01:31:55,340 --> 01:31:59,760 right? We're saying that hey from the plant or wherever the wherever it's getting makes 910 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,480 this coming with the properties saying it's going to meet this 95% compaction for 911 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:08,880 we're on the road. So when we're off the road, there is compaction testing so we do now 912 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:15,200 have like let's say from the in the future we have a pretzitor set up with our own 913 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:25,320 compassion testing firm. So we actually PG&E would actually control where the 914 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:31,020 Okay, because obviously we had some failures that had to be re-compacted in and that's so 915 01:32:31,020 --> 01:32:37,480 I was just curious if they were doing tests and I know you don't test every foot, but it's sporadic 916 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:44,440 The other thing is is you were talking about the seal chip seal in summaries and I would assume a 917 01:32:44,440 --> 01:32:46,660 Sog that fog seal on 918 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:52,380 a portion of it as well and then repainting is my correct. Restriping the road is that correct. 919 01:32:52,540 --> 01:32:55,960 Yes, that's right. So where is the chip seal going? 920 01:32:57,260 --> 01:33:03,840 Audera. If it's on one of the slides, Nathan Pooner bring it up towards the overhead map of all the 921 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:09,140 different forward. Give me a second we'll find it here. 922 01:33:09,500 --> 01:33:11,640 There it is. Yeah, so. 923 01:33:12,060 --> 01:33:16,060 Audera right here. We're Darren trying to meet. There's a single lane chip seal that goes there. 924 01:33:16,060 --> 01:33:21,680 And then there's sporadically from there, down through triangle, there's sorry seal. 925 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:23,460 Okay. That's going to be done. Okay. 926 01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:30,840 And then basically, I think we've just almost every piece of there or every section of triangle we can get. 927 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,680 So to my knowledge we're going to restripe all of triangle, that's in our impacted area. 928 01:33:36,060 --> 01:33:41,640 Okay, great. Then I have some questions about covering poles. I've seen the dark 929 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,640 of coloration on new polls, I know it helps to prevent 930 01:33:47,340 --> 01:33:53,040 critters from boring into the polls, but it seemed to also help 931 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,920 during the French fires, some of those polls did not succumb 932 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,660 to the fire, does it help with fire suppression apparently 933 01:34:00,660 --> 01:34:01,300 or not? 934 01:34:02,660 --> 01:34:06,920 So we have, so 935 01:34:10,020 --> 01:34:12,680 you're afraid of the polls that have that dark ray yet? 936 01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:20,640 Yeah, so that's called an Intamacent poll, and that's like a, if I can remember the right terminology, closed cells. 937 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:28,720 So basically, once they get exposed to heat from a fire, all those cells closed, and that mass turns into like a big fluffy puff of insulation. 938 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:30,240 So it did help. 939 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,440 Yeah, so that's actually four fire protection. That's not for woodpecker protection. 940 01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:38,320 Okay, good because I want to say it worked during the French fire. 941 01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:43,140 It was good and then a lot of those poles and I've done it in the past four 942 01:34:43,140 --> 01:34:49,460 you folks, Foss checked the poles fire, you know, fire retard and on it and that 943 01:34:49,460 --> 01:34:54,280 seemed to help as well, so it helps with replacement when you have to come back in. 944 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:55,140 Right. 945 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:55,440 Yeah. 946 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,040 So since the campfire, they said that PG&E has put a lot of money into what it's called 947 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:04,340 So the basically PG fireman that go out and treat polls, 948 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,420 clear vegetation, and all I had fired by my house two years ago, 949 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,180 and PG&E was one of the first ones out there 950 01:35:10,180 --> 01:35:11,520 who ripped everything out of the way. 951 01:35:11,940 --> 01:35:13,720 So basically they're just protecting that asset 952 01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,560 for things that aren't into mess into, right? 953 01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:17,640 We don't have fire protection on an old line set 954 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:18,360 and stuff like that. 955 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,460 They come out and spray retarded on. 956 01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:23,140 Whatever that word to you, it was a flash check game. 957 01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:24,180 Very good. 958 01:35:24,180 --> 01:35:25,100 Thank you very much. 959 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:25,660 Thank you. 960 01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:31,280 All right. 961 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:40,540 But I wanted to go back to the pole clearing, the wrap we got on the poles, that fabric 962 01:35:41,740 --> 01:35:50,500 expansive stuff and the relationship between all of that and so like where you got this 963 01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:53,820 pole clearing in this photo, this is just a naked wooden pole. 964 01:35:54,640 --> 01:36:00,120 If you got these poles that are wrapped with the fabric or we still are doing this aggressive 965 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:07,900 poll clearing? Yes. Okay. Here in Mariposa and I'm sure a lot of places these polls run right 966 01:36:07,900 --> 01:36:13,940 along property lines. And if something's got a wooden fence, this is within two feet of that poll. 967 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:21,160 It's an ignitable situation. What happens there? They're going to leave it alone. 968 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:28,540 If there is a property barrier like a fence, then yeah, we're not going to destroy that property 969 01:36:28,540 --> 01:36:34,600 area, that if there's specific landscaping that folks have, we're not going to disturb that, 970 01:36:34,940 --> 01:36:40,820 or if folks refuse the work, we're also not going to compel the work on this poll-clearing 971 01:36:40,820 --> 01:36:41,260 effort. 972 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,040 So, we've had refusals and we've moved on. 973 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,180 Okay, so people get notified not only for the vegetation management, 974 01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,000 but for the natural 975 01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:03,940 with regard to the gentleman's statement about property restoration, if folks, I don't know 976 01:37:03,940 --> 01:37:08,000 you're going to speak to him, but you know, if folks just let us know, we can put you 977 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:14,320 them in touch with Nathan, if you've got a specific issue that needs to be addressed, get 978 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:20,000 a hold of your supervisor. We can forward that request to Nathan and get it taken care of. 979 01:37:22,260 --> 01:37:24,880 Just put the goggles on and look one more. 980 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:38,780 Okay. Thank you guys for coming up. Glad you made it. And it's a good presentation. 981 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:44,960 Covered a lot of ground there. And I know my phone's been ringing lately that PG&E crews are going to be in your neighborhood. 982 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:53,900 So I don't know if you're going to be cutting more. I don't know what's left to cut quite frankly on the Leonard Road, but maybe it's pulled clearing. 983 01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:54,680 Yeah. 984 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:55,300 Or hard. 985 01:37:55,580 --> 01:37:56,900 It was another curiosity. 986 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,080 So we've got all this vegetation management cut down. 987 01:38:00,260 --> 01:38:06,400 How do you decide which lines get the replacement of the insulated metal pole situation 988 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:12,600 versus just the wrap and the poles and the vegetation down to clearance? 989 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,760 What's the criteria for deciding which way to go? 990 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,580 Which poles get the, um, which lines get replaced with the rubberized insulation? 991 01:38:20,940 --> 01:38:21,000 Oh. 992 01:38:21,340 --> 01:38:22,320 Those are the ones in the highest. 993 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:34,720 So there's high fire threat areas to your one, two, and three, the priorities, probably the two or three, but even within two or three, there's subteriors of extreme, but then there's different tiers of extreme. 994 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,400 So wherever the biggest risk exists, that's where we're going. 995 01:38:44,140 --> 01:38:44,740 Thank you. 996 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:51,220 Well, thank you, Mr. Chair, Board, Joe, Shannon, Joe. 997 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,740 Appreciate the opportunity to come and just share a little bit about what we're doing. 998 01:38:55,740 --> 01:39:09,460 I know that a lot of counties want undergrounding and once they get the undergrounding it's the journey we take together through the work and through the restoration. 999 01:39:10,620 --> 01:39:13,740 And this county has been absolutely wonderful to work with. 1000 01:39:14,980 --> 01:39:19,750 I appreciate to all of the patients the understanding and the grace that you and the community give us. 1001 01:39:20,250 --> 01:39:29,690 And that's why this is my favorite county and group of five supervisors to work with and if the other four counties that I cover listening, I hope they listen good. 1002 01:39:31,170 --> 01:39:32,230 So, thank you all. 1003 01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:32,790 All right. 1004 01:39:33,170 --> 01:39:33,790 Thank you guys. 1005 01:39:33,850 --> 01:39:34,970 Appreciate it. 1006 01:39:39,420 --> 01:39:39,560 Okay. 1007 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,380 Do we need time to set up for health and human services? 1008 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:43,900 A minute. 1009 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,260 This next item is from Health and Human Services. 1010 01:39:49,260 --> 01:39:55,440 We're going to receive a presentation by the Mariposa County Health and Human Services Agency 1011 01:39:55,440 --> 01:40:01,340 providing an update on the Mariposa County Health Branch Community Health Assessment. 1012 01:40:49,730 --> 01:40:56,030 Hi, good morning boards, CAO and County Council, Kim Ballard Deputy Director of Public Health. 1013 01:40:56,750 --> 01:41:04,390 And recently, Mariposa County Health and Human Services Public Health Branch has finalized our 20-24 community health assessment. 1014 01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:10,250 And I felt it was necessary to provide the board with an update, along with the highlights 1015 01:41:10,250 --> 01:41:17,430 from the Chau, and a brief update on Public Health Branch accreditation process and our 1016 01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:17,890 timeline. 1017 01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:23,750 And therefore, I'd like to introduce our amazing accreditation team, who will be giving 1018 01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:30,110 our presentation, in Rinder Tour, is our administrative analyst, also our infection prevention 1019 01:41:30,110 --> 01:41:30,790 practitioner. 1020 01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:38,530 And Erin Fisher, Brawitz, staff services, analysts, and our accreditation coordinator. 1021 01:41:39,390 --> 01:41:42,110 And with that, I would like to pass it over to Imrender Tor. 1022 01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:42,750 Okay. 1023 01:41:44,030 --> 01:41:44,230 Welcome. 1024 01:41:46,740 --> 01:41:48,400 Hey, Imrender Tor, public health. 1025 01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:53,820 We'll be presenting some results from the community health assessment on this slide show, 1026 01:41:53,940 --> 01:41:58,180 and for those that are not watching, but listening, you can follow along. 1027 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:00,560 It is uploaded on the Mirapose County website. 1028 01:42:01,810 --> 01:42:10,810 So some chart data sources for the community health assessment included the county health rankings, which is accessible on county health rankings.org. 1029 01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:18,840 Those include length of life indicators and quality of life indicators, length of life would be life expectancy or premature death. 1030 01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:24,670 Quality of life is physical and mental health. This also included health factors. 1031 01:42:24,670 --> 01:42:30,050 We use state and national data sets, that was the U.S. Census and Chiss. 1032 01:42:30,410 --> 01:42:32,210 That's the California Health Interview Survey. 1033 01:42:33,790 --> 01:42:35,150 We also connected to the Community Survey. 1034 01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:40,150 We got 298 responses between November, 2023 and March of 2024. 1035 01:42:41,110 --> 01:42:45,090 We also connected key informant interviews with partner agencies that are outlined within the 1036 01:42:45,090 --> 01:42:45,330 Chau. 1037 01:42:49,380 --> 01:42:52,620 Some highlights from the Chau are just a few graphs and tables for you. 1038 01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,200 These are some of the strengths for Mayor Posa County. 1039 01:42:58,900 --> 01:43:01,820 You can see physical activity rates are higher than other Californian counties. 1040 01:43:02,780 --> 01:43:06,260 High school graduation rates are also above average in the state. 1041 01:43:06,860 --> 01:43:10,740 In community quality rates are lower than the state, and STI rates, 1042 01:43:11,060 --> 01:43:12,140 sexually transmitted infections. 1043 01:43:13,340 --> 01:43:16,880 The rates are lower than the state, but the rate is increasing within the county. 1044 01:43:23,210 --> 01:43:26,190 These are some questions from the community health survey 1045 01:43:26,190 --> 01:43:30,790 that was conducted with 298 individuals within the county. 1046 01:43:32,270 --> 01:43:36,990 The question was, what are the greatest behavior concerns children and adolescents face in your community? 1047 01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:43,410 The top three choices here were mental health, substance use, and lack of social connection and community engagement. 1048 01:43:44,670 --> 01:43:47,050 I'll leave that up for a second so you can take a look at that graph. 1049 01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:59,990 Can I ask you one question while we were looking at that? 1050 01:43:59,990 --> 01:44:06,530 Sure. The respondents to this question were adults, children, adults and children? 1051 01:44:07,110 --> 01:44:09,390 Over the age of 18. Over the age of 18. Thank you. 1052 01:44:14,110 --> 01:44:19,270 This was a graph breaking down social contact by age group. Social contact was defined 1053 01:44:19,890 --> 01:44:24,970 by you could see at the bottom of the legend. I do not see or talk to anyone all the way up to 1054 01:44:24,970 --> 01:44:30,030 five or more days a week that they have. Social contact. If you look at the age groups, 1055 01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:37,030 25 to 34, we're seeing the highest in I do not see or talk to anyone across all age groups. 1056 01:44:37,370 --> 01:44:45,030 And you see a drop off of five or more days a week of social contact from the 55 to 64 to 65 plus. 1057 01:44:45,730 --> 01:44:48,290 Again, I'll leave it up for a couple of seconds here as you can take a look. 1058 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,700 The next question was, what are the greatest needs of children and their families in your community? 1059 01:45:05,540 --> 01:45:19,820 And the top three choices with a tie for third were mental health and substance use disorder programs for individuals and families, clean and safe housing, and tied for third safe spaces for physical activity and access to a pediatrician. 1060 01:45:23,540 --> 01:45:32,340 A couple others to note there that were selected but didn't make the top three there were health insurance access to healthy food and connection to trusted adults. 1061 01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:48,540 The county health rankings, website, also breaks Mariposa County's health outcomes and compares 1062 01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:53,180 it to national and state average. So you can see that graph there on the right. Mariposa 1063 01:45:53,180 --> 01:45:57,260 County affairs worse than the average county in California for health outcomes, but better 1064 01:45:57,260 --> 01:45:58,440 than the average county in the nation. 1065 01:46:08,830 --> 01:46:11,230 Some opportunities for improvement that were highlighted 1066 01:46:11,230 --> 01:46:17,190 in the county health rankings were adult smoking, adult obesity, excessive drinking, 1067 01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:21,370 access to exercise opportunities, alcohol impaired driving deaths, 1068 01:46:22,490 --> 01:46:26,050 unemployment, flu vaccination rates, severe housing problems, 1069 01:46:26,850 --> 01:46:29,450 mammography screening, preventable hospital stays 1070 01:46:29,450 --> 01:46:31,310 and children in single parent households. 1071 01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:38,660 We also have some artwork featured here from local artists. 1072 01:46:44,460 --> 01:46:47,180 If you would like to access the Community Health Assessment, 1073 01:46:47,460 --> 01:46:48,560 there's a QR code there. 1074 01:46:48,740 --> 01:46:53,760 It's also available on the website, under the Health Services Division 1075 01:46:53,760 --> 01:47:04,100 page of HHSA. I can leave that up if you want to scan it, but move on to public health 1076 01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:06,960 accreditation with Erin. Hi. 1077 01:47:14,690 --> 01:47:19,650 Hi, I'm Erin. I can hear me now at works. So I'm going to 1078 01:47:19,650 --> 01:47:24,690 go over the chon the chip process really quickly before we break into some processes of 1079 01:47:25,190 --> 01:47:30,410 accreditation. Right now we're in the prioritization phase. 1080 01:47:33,010 --> 01:47:33,590 We're not doing this 1081 01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:38,850 sitting down. So right now we're in the prioritization phase. We've done two 1082 01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:43,150 chip meetings thus far. Thank you Supervisors. Welcome for attending those. 1083 01:47:44,570 --> 01:47:49,750 We are currently kind of in the process of identifying what our action items 1084 01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:55,130 are going to be. We've identified our priorities. Access to care and 1085 01:47:55,130 --> 01:47:57,270 transportation, housing, and child, 1086 01:47:57,290 --> 01:47:58,010 not a lesson health. 1087 01:47:58,070 --> 01:48:01,570 Our top three priorities for this coming chip. 1088 01:48:03,830 --> 01:48:07,810 The process of the John the Chips started last year. 1089 01:48:08,350 --> 01:48:09,590 Prior to me being in this role, 1090 01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:12,150 so I don't have the nuance of everything, 1091 01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:15,950 but I can direct you to folks if you have questions about that. 1092 01:48:16,490 --> 01:48:19,430 Our chart is obviously published now. 1093 01:48:19,550 --> 01:48:21,470 We followed the map 2.0 process, 1094 01:48:21,670 --> 01:48:23,170 which is what we're continuing to follow 1095 01:48:23,170 --> 01:48:30,210 we move forward with the chip. Our next phases after our chip meetings have concluded is actually 1096 01:48:30,210 --> 01:48:33,890 developed the plan and then publish that out to the community and of course takes a 1097 01:48:33,890 --> 01:48:37,450 action on the goals that we set as a community. 1098 01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:43,470 Let's go ahead and move it on over. 1099 01:48:45,410 --> 01:48:51,200 So public health accreditation is kind of the thing that I'm in charge of doing right now. 1100 01:48:52,080 --> 01:49:01,920 accreditation is a pretty extensive process. It's very heavy with regards to processes and 1101 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:10,480 planning and a lot of changes that are made on both a micro and macro scale. Right now we're 1102 01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:17,530 in the preparation phase that are about seven phases of accreditation that include reporting and 1103 01:49:17,530 --> 01:49:22,630 accreditation as well. We're very early stages. Part of the reason that we are in early stages 1104 01:49:22,630 --> 01:49:27,490 is because we're working on the 2022 standards and measures. The 2022 standards and measures 1105 01:49:27,490 --> 01:49:34,230 were published in January of 2022 and 1.1.5, which is the version of the standards and measures 1106 01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:42,730 prior to that, closed in June of 2022. Currently there are only two counties that are accredited 1107 01:49:42,730 --> 01:49:47,030 for 2022, but that's simply just because of the timing 1108 01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:48,130 that the process takes. 1109 01:49:50,730 --> 01:49:56,430 We have quite a bit of progress being made 1110 01:49:56,430 --> 01:49:59,910 toward establishing ourselves for what is referred 1111 01:49:59,910 --> 01:50:01,130 to as the readiness assessment, 1112 01:50:01,330 --> 01:50:04,290 which is kind of the stage prior to application. 1113 01:50:05,650 --> 01:50:08,690 There are several very intense plans 1114 01:50:08,690 --> 01:50:10,410 that we have to work on. 1115 01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:11,850 We have many of those. 1116 01:50:11,850 --> 01:50:17,570 is just a matter of kind of getting things in order, crossing T's, dotting eyes and all that. 1117 01:50:19,930 --> 01:50:25,470 The other thing I wanted to mention here, oh yes, we're also working with a couple contracting 1118 01:50:25,470 --> 01:50:31,270 organizations that are helping us ensure that our plans meet compliance for both accreditation 1119 01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:34,950 and help with agency guidelines as well. 1120 01:50:36,230 --> 01:50:42,590 Having the chalk completed, we have already taken a huge step toward finalizing things 1121 01:50:42,590 --> 01:50:45,890 for moving toward the readiness assessment and, of course, the application. 1122 01:50:48,690 --> 01:50:50,470 I think that's it. 1123 01:50:55,790 --> 01:50:56,470 Any questions? 1124 01:50:59,070 --> 01:51:02,070 My parents' part, or I said, I've said it yet, okay. 1125 01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:03,490 Thank you. 1126 01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:11,570 So also, I just wanted to mention, if anybody has any questions or concerns or wants 1127 01:51:11,570 --> 01:51:17,630 more information, please feel free to reach out to myself or the team even more than happy to 1128 01:51:17,630 --> 01:51:24,890 provide you guys with the information. Thank you. Okay. Okay, anything before I go to public comment? 1129 01:51:26,450 --> 01:51:29,450 All right, can all open this presentation up for public comment? 1130 01:51:30,030 --> 01:51:33,790 Yeah, and if you're on the phone line, star 5, get your recognized for your comment. 1131 01:51:36,820 --> 01:51:39,380 Any public comment on this presentation this morning? 1132 01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:48,280 Okay. 1133 01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:52,100 And I'll close public comment, I'll bring it back to the board. 1134 01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:55,400 Supervisor Forsythe. 1135 01:51:56,220 --> 01:51:56,720 Thank you, Chair. 1136 01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:59,000 Thank you, Kim, for bringing this forward. 1137 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,220 And the good folks doing the presentation. 1138 01:52:01,940 --> 01:52:05,540 Erin, it's been a while since we've seen you in town, so that's good to see you back. 1139 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,860 Another MCHS grad, so that's what we'd like to see. 1140 01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:15,480 Could we go back to the slide that talks about what are the greatest behavior concerns 1141 01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:21,260 children and adolescents face in the community. Yes, let me put up here. 1142 01:52:21,620 --> 01:52:29,980 That's page three, three, four, thirteen in our packet. Yeah, there we are. Number one is... 1143 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:40,000 So have you shared this with the school district? We are in our check process right now, working with people from the school district. So we can 1144 01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:48,040 are formal sharing this through the online uploading of the community health assessment and notifying them as well. But this information was presented to them. 1145 01:52:48,380 --> 01:52:59,820 Okay, very good. It concerns me when we see mental health is a very high probability that folks are concerned about that. 1146 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:11,080 What are we doing to help the schools combat the concerns young people have particularly mental health? 1147 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:16,520 Do you know what we're doing as far as we're team effort county hand schools? 1148 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,080 So what are we what are we reaching out? 1149 01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,200 What are we doing? 1150 01:53:20,060 --> 01:53:28,180 I can speak to I see him in my role is right now at least in the community health improvement plan 1151 01:53:28,180 --> 01:53:31,420 working on addressing these issues that were brought up through the 1152 01:53:31,420 --> 01:53:36,600 child and making a plan to basically over the years address them. 1153 01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:41,260 But in the past from our chip that was completed in 2019, this was also 1154 01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:46,160 identified as a concern. And since then, we've introduced telehealth 1155 01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,700 services for mental health at HHSA, so that does address that as well. 1156 01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:52,540 There's more. 1157 01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:08,080 Good morning board, CIO County Council, Sheila Baker, mental health director, and also deputy 1158 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:12,400 director for behavioral health and recovery services. 1159 01:54:13,340 --> 01:54:19,860 I wanted to go ahead and speak to your question if I may regarding what is being done 1160 01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:21,560 with mental health with the schools. 1161 01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:30,780 So, currently, the schools have been awarded several grants and county behavioral health 1162 01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:39,560 works with them monthly regarding what are they doing to fulfill their grant and so we 1163 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:44,720 do have some oversight with them on what they are currently doing. 1164 01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:59,700 They have a mental health student services act over a five-year period for $2.5 million that they are utilizing staff. 1165 01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:11,840 They have a vehicle. They have more vehicles in their plan, working on purchasing those vehicles in order to put mental health staff in all of the schools. 1166 01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:18,660 that is North County and South County, that is in their plan. 1167 01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:28,920 We also then on the county behavioral health staff have clinicians and case managers that work in the school seeing clients. 1168 01:55:30,740 --> 01:55:36,420 So that is on their like caseload that would still be part of behavioral health services. 1169 01:55:36,420 --> 01:55:45,580 So, they see them at the school sites, but they also see them at our family service center for behavioral health. 1170 01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:46,660 Yeah. 1171 01:55:46,820 --> 01:55:51,460 I knew some of that, and I appreciate the partnership we have with the school district. 1172 01:55:54,340 --> 01:56:02,280 I guess my other question is, drugs and meth and fentanyl and all those kinds of things. 1173 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:11,500 tragic things happen. I know as vice principal, it was tough breaking that cycle up and 1174 01:56:11,500 --> 01:56:16,920 there's always someone seems to be able to push it to kids and it's sad. But what are we doing 1175 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:24,540 to help the school district in that? So we also have our substance abuse team and we have our 1176 01:56:24,540 --> 01:56:30,880 counselors, there's three on the team. They also can go out to the school sites and they have also 1177 01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,880 on to presentations in the communities after hours 1178 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:38,740 and talked about nicotine opioids, 1179 01:56:38,900 --> 01:56:42,000 substance abuse use, as well. 1180 01:56:42,060 --> 01:56:43,840 So our supervisor, Todd Davidson, 1181 01:56:44,060 --> 01:56:46,680 has personally done some of those outreach 1182 01:56:47,210 --> 01:56:49,600 to the schools to get them some information. 1183 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,180 Also, they can come in for assessments 1184 01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:59,740 and by calling 966-2000 as for behavioral health services 1185 01:56:59,740 --> 01:57:05,480 and they can come in youth and adults for substance abuse assessments. 1186 01:57:06,180 --> 01:57:07,520 Thank you very much. 1187 01:57:07,660 --> 01:57:10,680 Yeah, you're welcome. Any other questions? 1188 01:57:13,220 --> 01:57:13,820 Thank you, Chair. 1189 01:57:14,460 --> 01:57:15,220 Thank you so much. 1190 01:57:15,260 --> 01:57:16,240 Thank you for the presentation. 1191 01:57:17,220 --> 01:57:20,960 I'm wondering within the survey with mental health. 1192 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:26,380 Do we get an idea of the main issues with mental health? 1193 01:57:26,380 --> 01:57:32,580 was there an overwhelming reason or another for mental health issues? 1194 01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:38,180 I'll have to leave that to the team to see what they are diving into. 1195 01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:46,700 I think even in this graph, there's a couple that were mentioned, so suicide, lack of social 1196 01:57:46,700 --> 01:57:47,820 connection and isolation. 1197 01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:55,780 But beyond that, it's included in several different parts of page 8 through 12, where we mentioned 1198 01:57:55,780 --> 01:57:59,000 mental health and address different points of it. 1199 01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:03,640 But this graph does summarize a lot of what was included for a mental health. 1200 01:58:03,900 --> 01:58:10,180 I can also speak on the suicide prevention awareness that we just have for September. 1201 01:58:10,900 --> 01:58:14,220 I also want to remind the board of our track team. 1202 01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:20,400 Track team is doing outreach and as of July 1st, they also have implemented the new mobile 1203 01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:27,540 crisis response, which is a two-person response, which includes a licensed clinician, either 1204 01:58:27,540 --> 01:58:32,400 in-person or available via phone, Zoom, or some sort. 1205 01:58:33,220 --> 01:58:41,420 We also have a new licensed supervisor with our track unit, but we are heavily involved 1206 01:58:41,420 --> 01:58:42,900 with suicide prevention. 1207 01:58:43,540 --> 01:58:49,820 We just recently also did an all-county mailer, and that crisis line that people can reach 1208 01:58:49,820 --> 01:59:00,300 to is 2099667000. We're very involved with messaging also for suicide prevention and then also if they 1209 01:59:00,300 --> 01:59:08,340 want to come in for counseling we could do an assessment for them there and that would be by reaching the 1210 01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:17,560 I had another question, too, on the opportunities for improvement page. 1211 01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:23,420 It talks about adult obesity and access to exercise opportunities. 1212 01:59:25,220 --> 01:59:26,960 Did we get any clarification on that? 1213 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,600 We have so many trails and everything here in the mountains. 1214 01:59:32,060 --> 01:59:36,440 Exercise opportunities, did you get an idea of what was meant with that? 1215 01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:41,820 I think we can kind of speak to that a little bit with regards to transportation being one of our key priorities. 1216 01:59:42,140 --> 01:59:51,580 I think some of it is simply people can't access the areas they're desiring to actually try to work out or they don't feel like they have safe areas to do so. 1217 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:55,020 Thank you. 1218 01:59:58,190 --> 01:59:59,930 Thank you chair and thanks for the present. 1219 02:00:01,260 --> 02:00:09,100 I remember on the social contact by age group, why was the age group 18 to 24 excluded? 1220 02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:15,200 That was excluded because we had a really small sample size of 18 to 24 years, as part of our survey. 1221 02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:20,280 So, an aim for the next one would be to address that and reach out to that population. 1222 02:00:20,980 --> 02:00:22,820 Great. Okay, thank you for that. 1223 02:00:22,820 --> 02:00:29,540 And I guess, do you know, are we tracking the time 1224 02:00:29,540 --> 02:00:33,020 expended on this project between the trial 1225 02:00:33,020 --> 02:00:35,860 and the chip now of staff? 1226 02:00:36,260 --> 02:00:40,460 Are we, is that going into Oracle as their specific account 1227 02:00:40,460 --> 02:00:42,420 that this is being charged to? 1228 02:00:46,550 --> 02:00:50,650 So, in Render and Erin, are funded through 1229 02:00:50,650 --> 02:00:52,530 some accreditation funding. 1230 02:00:53,350 --> 02:00:55,150 But for others who are participating, 1231 02:00:55,150 --> 02:00:59,390 being no, it's not being tracked, per se, and oracle. 1232 02:01:00,310 --> 02:01:05,650 So, okay, all right, as long as you're up there and maybe this is a question for Sidney, 1233 02:01:06,570 --> 02:01:10,530 but you might want to lay out, why is it that we're pursuing this? 1234 02:01:10,910 --> 02:01:12,790 Why are we pursuing accreditation? 1235 02:01:13,790 --> 02:01:18,450 Well, I know we have been trying to pursue accreditation for years. 1236 02:01:18,450 --> 02:01:18,790 Yep. 1237 02:01:19,330 --> 02:01:24,170 All the way back to when Eric Sergeenko was beginning his reign. 1238 02:01:24,170 --> 02:01:26,590 actually when Robin Reiter was, oh, there you go. 1239 02:01:26,890 --> 02:01:31,610 Yeah, so you've heard that, so it's so that we can maintain a higher level of 1240 02:01:31,610 --> 02:01:38,250 a standard that is being from the state, federal, state, and down to local level. 1241 02:01:38,730 --> 02:01:44,530 And so down the road, it's going to also pertain to how we receive funding, our funding 1242 02:01:44,530 --> 02:01:51,170 sources, as well, and so we're talking there about the probability of successfully 1243 02:01:51,170 --> 02:01:52,030 correct. 1244 02:01:52,250 --> 02:01:52,330 Correct. 1245 02:01:54,710 --> 02:01:59,070 And it also gives us other opportunities to secure other funding as well. 1246 02:01:59,370 --> 02:02:00,270 So we have better chances. 1247 02:02:01,010 --> 02:02:01,090 All right. 1248 02:02:01,710 --> 02:02:08,170 So improving the level of service and improving the probability that we'll secure additional funding. 1249 02:02:08,470 --> 02:02:11,250 But it might be good also for us to start tracking our time as well. 1250 02:02:11,670 --> 02:02:18,790 In some way or another just to see how much time we are spending on pursuing accreditation for for now and for future. 1251 02:02:19,570 --> 02:02:30,910 Okay, thank you, there's a lot of data there and as is always the case, the devil is in the detail. 1252 02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:42,390 So are you, I don't recall a specific conversation on this, but I'm serving on the child and adolescent subcommittee. 1253 02:02:42,390 --> 02:02:53,730 And are we, is there data available that's broken down more by age group and then also by geographic area within the county? 1254 02:02:54,130 --> 02:02:57,850 Can we manipulate the data to extract other information? 1255 02:02:58,570 --> 02:03:03,150 Yes, we can do that based on the need from that arises from that group. 1256 02:03:03,210 --> 02:03:09,170 So the conversation still have, you can let Erin and I know what you're looking for and we can provide that data to you. 1257 02:03:09,170 --> 02:03:12,890 as long as it doesn't get into small numbers that could eventually be 1258 02:03:12,890 --> 02:03:14,270 in a viable, we're not looking to do that. 1259 02:03:14,670 --> 02:03:17,450 Yeah, actually, you might review that. 1260 02:03:17,470 --> 02:03:21,070 I know what you're talking about, not everybody necessarily understands 1261 02:03:22,290 --> 02:03:25,370 that why we can't get more detailed data. 1262 02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:31,390 Yeah, so there should be a minimum number of the sample size that we're 1263 02:03:31,390 --> 02:03:32,230 showing you. 1264 02:03:32,590 --> 02:03:36,970 If it's too small, there's a possibility of individuals being 1265 02:03:36,970 --> 02:03:39,430 identified through the topic we're speaking of. 1266 02:03:39,690 --> 02:03:44,410 So if we say there's only five people experiencing a certain condition, it makes it easier 1267 02:03:44,410 --> 02:03:47,750 for people between to understand who that might be or talking about, and we don't want 1268 02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:48,450 to do that. 1269 02:03:49,290 --> 02:03:52,410 So we're going to protect the privacy of those that participated in this survey. 1270 02:03:52,990 --> 02:03:53,110 Super. 1271 02:03:53,570 --> 02:03:53,810 Okay. 1272 02:03:54,170 --> 02:03:54,330 All right. 1273 02:03:54,350 --> 02:03:55,830 Thank you very much. 1274 02:03:57,210 --> 02:03:57,670 Thank 1275 02:03:59,970 --> 02:04:00,430 you. 1276 02:04:00,430 --> 02:04:02,390 I just had a thank you for the presentation. 1277 02:04:02,390 --> 02:04:04,930 And there's a very informative, 1278 02:04:07,090 --> 02:04:31,310 and I go back two years ago before sitting up here, I wouldn't have been able to, this would have surprised me, being in the position and hearing and seeing and everything that goes on much better is it doesn't surprise me anymore, but I had a question about the slide that you have right before this one, which is the greatest behavior concerns. 1279 02:04:31,310 --> 02:04:48,750 So when you guys do these surveys and I don't even know if you can do this, you're just interviewing or having adult respondents, is it possible to even talk to the kids to see what their problems are in their eyes? 1280 02:04:48,750 --> 02:04:51,570 Yeah, it's possible. 1281 02:04:51,770 --> 02:04:57,330 It does require specific training and then parental consent. 1282 02:04:58,390 --> 02:05:01,590 That does get difficult because there's always ethical concerns 1283 02:05:01,590 --> 02:05:03,710 when looking at data for children. 1284 02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:06,210 So we haven't done it this time, 1285 02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:08,530 but it is something we can discuss moving forward 1286 02:05:08,530 --> 02:05:10,690 if that's an interest in the community. 1287 02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:11,930 Well, I don't know that it is. 1288 02:05:12,210 --> 02:05:15,050 I would, I leave that to the professionals you guys. 1289 02:05:15,050 --> 02:05:21,210 Just because I want to see something doesn't necessarily mean that it should be done. 1290 02:05:22,450 --> 02:05:29,970 But I'm thinking about who would know their kids better than their parents, probably no one. 1291 02:05:30,530 --> 02:05:36,350 And I would think that they would know what their problems are, the things that they face. 1292 02:05:36,350 --> 02:05:48,310 I just think of communities in my district like Greve Hill as probably the best example is the kids, 1293 02:05:48,590 --> 02:05:54,210 you know, I see them get off the bus at the hardware store and they walk home and sometimes 1294 02:05:54,210 --> 02:05:59,970 their folks pick them up. There's no whole heck of a lot for the kids to do. There's no, 1295 02:05:59,970 --> 02:06:13,230 I mean there's a park that for lack of a better terms isn't very well suited really for kids and there's just not a lot for them to do so what do they do hike around in the woods 1296 02:06:15,390 --> 02:06:29,890 because they're so isolated that's part of the thing and I guess I can see isolation on here but isolation to me I don't know whether that I guess what I'm trying to get to in a really crappy way here is 1297 02:06:29,890 --> 02:06:38,630 Um, I would be curious to see the data maybe for the North County, um, like what supervisor 1298 02:06:38,630 --> 02:06:40,330 Smolkeham was talking about. 1299 02:06:40,770 --> 02:06:47,630 So if you guys could maybe hook me up or give me some direction on how to obtain and then 1300 02:06:47,630 --> 02:06:51,610 disseminate that myself, I would greatly appreciate that. 1301 02:06:51,890 --> 02:06:54,350 We can connect with you after the meeting and make sure that happens. 1302 02:06:54,350 --> 02:06:55,410 Does that make sense to you? 1303 02:06:55,470 --> 02:07:01,970 I mean, the folks up there being so isolated and the poor kids is, you know, well, okay. 1304 02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:02,630 Well, thank you. 1305 02:07:02,790 --> 02:07:03,410 Good job on that. 1306 02:07:03,470 --> 02:07:04,090 Very well. 1307 02:07:04,170 --> 02:07:04,730 Very well done. 1308 02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:05,610 Thank you. 1309 02:07:11,930 --> 02:07:12,370 Good afternoon. 1310 02:07:12,490 --> 02:07:13,350 Good morning, still. 1311 02:07:13,470 --> 02:07:14,770 Joe Lynch, county administrative officer. 1312 02:07:14,890 --> 02:07:19,370 I normally don't comment during these times, but I did want to take a moment to say, you know, 1313 02:07:19,490 --> 02:07:24,450 we have seen questions in the Mariposa Gazette, utter from community members about why 1314 02:07:24,450 --> 02:07:28,010 we use so many consultants to do work in Mariposa County. 1315 02:07:28,010 --> 02:07:29,710 And this chart. 1316 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:34,720 Has always been done by a consultant, and this is the first time it was actually done internally. 1317 02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:42,380 So, my recognition for not only training up, but putting together a really fantastic product. 1318 02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:46,940 And I just wanted to continue to know that we do have the capacity, and you do see, thank you, I'm Render. 1319 02:07:47,780 --> 02:07:56,300 And Kim, Kristina, Sydney, the leadership in Health and Human Services, for assuming this work, doing it, and taking the questions from today to say, 1320 02:07:56,300 --> 02:07:57,580 How do we make the next one better? 1321 02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:00,340 We're learning as we go, but really nice jobs. 1322 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:02,220 I just wanted to say thank you for that. 1323 02:08:02,900 --> 02:08:04,560 And it's not my place to talk during this, 1324 02:08:04,740 --> 02:08:06,700 I ask for permission just to let you know 1325 02:08:06,700 --> 02:08:07,780 that we appreciate you. 1326 02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:11,780 And secondarily, just to note, to a writer, Poe, 1327 02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:14,060 North County does have a disproportionate amount 1328 02:08:14,060 --> 02:08:18,740 of mental health response issues compared to the county. 1329 02:08:18,820 --> 02:08:23,460 So we do run those, we do, I used to know this stuff 1330 02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:24,360 when I worked out the Indian Service. 1331 02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:35,980 But we do run the data to find out per population where the biggest pockets of issues and a lot of it is due to the isolation, so we do have that data for you and we can bring forward. 1332 02:08:36,500 --> 02:08:37,420 Thank you, Chair. 1333 02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:43,600 So Joe uses up his one opportunity to speak on the first day of October. 1334 02:08:46,540 --> 02:08:47,020 Okay. 1335 02:08:47,500 --> 02:08:49,340 It is very interesting stuff. 1336 02:08:49,340 --> 02:08:54,000 I did not know that we'd always done this outside, 1337 02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,260 and you guys pulled it in, so good job. 1338 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:57,860 Who knows on that? 1339 02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:03,560 Anything else from the board before we supervise or spot that? 1340 02:09:05,020 --> 02:09:06,880 I think we're just, Erin, 1341 02:09:07,100 --> 02:09:09,820 I think you're in an email exchange 1342 02:09:09,820 --> 02:09:14,620 where we're talking about setting up sort of the offline subcommittee 1343 02:09:14,620 --> 02:09:16,260 meeting for child and adolescent. 1344 02:09:17,940 --> 02:09:25,660 But what I have asked for in another context is data that came out of the study that I guess 1345 02:09:26,260 --> 02:09:31,960 and Andy Carter led, which had to do with food insecurity in Mariposa County. 1346 02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:40,240 And part of what I've asked for along those lines, and I know I think somebody's talking to somebody. 1347 02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:46,900 I think it's, it would work, it would work as talking to Kim, I think, or Mandy, somebody. 1348 02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:52,180 Anyway, there was a lot of data that was collected in the under the auspices of a grant 1349 02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:57,780 that we received from USDA and to the supervisor pose point. 1350 02:09:59,020 --> 02:10:06,460 One of the bits of data that stuck out to me related to the levels of food insecurity in North 1351 02:10:06,460 --> 02:10:06,800 County. 1352 02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:25,100 So I think, I guess what I'm driving at here is that what we might all appreciate here on the board is what I'll call the aggregation of data on that pertains to demographic characteristics in our different districts, right? 1353 02:10:26,220 --> 02:10:31,220 There's food insecurity, there's mental health and substance use disorders. 1354 02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:34,980 I mean, I would like that for District 1. 1355 02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:37,760 I'm a supervisor, I think everybody. 1356 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:45,380 What is our population look like along these areas of concern 1357 02:10:45,380 --> 02:10:50,860 with respect to the overall health of the populations in our districts? 1358 02:10:50,860 --> 02:10:58,760 So, those are two, these obviously the trial and the work that Andy Carter did are two that 1359 02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:05,800 I'm aware of, I expect that there are other pockets of data that you're aware of within 1360 02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:14,260 HSA and again it's sort of, what do you have readily available that you can use to describe 1361 02:11:14,260 --> 02:11:20,260 more fully our populations and our districts. Thank you. 1362 02:11:21,220 --> 02:11:27,600 If you want to mention that on page nine there is a breakdown of the document that you have. 1363 02:11:28,500 --> 02:11:32,980 Of the survey respondents within each of the subcodes in areas of the county. 1364 02:11:33,620 --> 02:11:37,020 And that we ever see what numbers we have within our survey. 1365 02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:40,220 On page nine. 1366 02:11:56,220 --> 02:12:05,200 The green there is the survey results and blue is the Mariposa County population for each of those zip codes based on U.S. Census data. 1367 02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:15,110 Okay, well, that's definitely a start. Thank you. 1368 02:12:21,170 --> 02:12:24,550 Anything else before we let them go? Okay. 1369 02:12:25,510 --> 02:12:30,390 Erinder, Aaron, thank you very much. I was very very good presentation. Appreciate it. 1370 02:12:30,610 --> 02:12:33,670 And thanks for the entire assessment. Appreciate that too. 1371 02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:34,510 Thank you. 1372 02:12:35,110 --> 02:12:35,410 Okay. 1373 02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:46,190 This next item is also out of health and human services asking this board to approve the 1374 02:12:46,190 --> 02:12:53,050 allocation of one senior administrative analyst position and at the same time 1375 02:12:53,050 --> 02:13:00,250 eliminate one program administrator allocation in the health and human services agency 1376 02:13:00,250 --> 02:13:02,450 effective immediately. 1377 02:13:03,730 --> 02:13:04,490 Sydney? 1378 02:13:05,250 --> 02:13:05,730 Good morning. 1379 02:13:06,530 --> 02:13:06,970 Good. 1380 02:13:07,090 --> 02:13:07,490 How are you? 1381 02:13:07,590 --> 02:13:07,950 Good. 1382 02:13:07,950 --> 02:13:11,930 Thank you. Good morning board, County Council, CAO, 1383 02:13:12,290 --> 02:13:15,210 the Board, sitting for a Division Director of Human Services. 1384 02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:20,110 So yes, before you, we are bringing forward the 1385 02:13:20,110 --> 02:13:23,850 approved the allocation of one senior administrative analyst with 1386 02:13:23,850 --> 02:13:27,690 Health and Human Services and eliminate a program administrator position. 1387 02:13:28,110 --> 02:13:31,930 The program administrator position was previously in support of 1388 02:13:31,930 --> 02:13:36,310 within our administration division and due to restructure. 1389 02:13:36,310 --> 02:13:39,270 We are no longer in need of that position. 1390 02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:45,210 However, we have identified a need due to our increase in our public health and behavioral 1391 02:13:45,210 --> 02:13:46,350 health clinic times. 1392 02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:51,930 We are now increasing the days available for services from two days to three days. 1393 02:13:52,430 --> 02:13:56,750 And with that, we've identified the need for a clinic manager, which would fit within the senior 1394 02:13:56,750 --> 02:13:58,370 administrative analyst position. 1395 02:13:58,930 --> 02:14:04,510 And we are requesting that that be approved, so that the duties are not inappropriately 1396 02:14:04,510 --> 02:14:06,030 being placed on other staff. 1397 02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:12,180 Okay. Any questions for I go to public comment? 1398 02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:15,360 Okay, let me take some public comment on this. 1399 02:14:15,460 --> 02:14:16,640 And again, if you're on the phone line, 1400 02:14:17,320 --> 02:14:19,620 star five, is there any public comment on this item? 1401 02:14:23,980 --> 02:14:25,540 Not on the phone, not on the room, 1402 02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:26,960 close public comment. 1403 02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:29,080 Supervisor Tosso. 1404 02:14:30,340 --> 02:14:32,820 If there are no questions or comments, 1405 02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:37,100 I would move to approve the allocation of one senior administrative 1406 02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:40,620 administrative analyst position and eliminate one program administrator 1407 02:14:40,620 --> 02:14:45,120 allocation in the health and human services agency effective immediately 1408 02:14:46,260 --> 02:14:48,720 and i'll second emotion thank you 1409 02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:49,500 then move 1410 02:14:49,500 --> 02:14:50,780 uh... okay 1411 02:14:50,780 --> 02:14:53,360 you know it breaks my heart to see the dog die 1412 02:14:59,150 --> 02:14:59,970 has been moved in 1413 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:14,380 I can do that we approve this allocation, this item as presented, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any pose? Any abstain? And the allocation and the 1414 02:15:14,380 --> 02:15:17,060 eliminations approved unanimously. Thank you, Sydney. 1415 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:22,060 Okay, item number four. This is out of 1416 02:15:22,060 --> 02:15:28,440 administration, asking this board to approve a side letter between the Mariposa County, between 1417 02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:33,060 the county of Mariposa, and the Mariposa County Managerial 1418 02:15:33,060 --> 02:15:42,300 Confidential Organization, AFSC in the E local, 2703 to increase the 1419 02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:46,840 longevity bonus intended to be in the memorandum of understanding 1420 02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:55,300 from November 1st, 2023 to October 31st, 2025, effective August 1st, 1421 02:15:55,300 --> 02:15:56,260 2024. 1422 02:15:58,630 --> 02:16:00,130 Who's got this? Chris? 1423 02:16:02,340 --> 02:16:07,760 Good morning, Board. Chris Furbrish, HR, Senior Administrative 1424 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:13,640 Analyst. So I won't get into the details too much about this other than it was what happened 1425 02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:21,160 with the new MOU agreement. There was a 5% increase in what we call longevity payer, longevity 1426 02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:29,040 bonus, and it's that type of pay occurs once every say five years. I believe the first 1427 02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:35,680 level is 10 years than 15 and it goes up to I think possibly 25. 1428 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:40,580 But it's just a 5% increase 1429 02:16:40,580 --> 02:16:44,680 that was an oversight and that's about it. 1430 02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:52,930 Okay, we questions from the board. Is there any 1431 02:16:52,930 --> 02:16:58,150 public comment on this item. Again, if you're on the phone, start 5. 1432 02:16:59,630 --> 02:17:05,410 We need to recognize no public comment in the room. No injuries on the phone. 1433 02:17:05,430 --> 02:17:06,810 I'll bring it back to the board. 1434 02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:12,820 Professor, welcome. 1435 02:17:13,740 --> 02:17:16,340 I don't have any questions or comments if no one else does. 1436 02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:20,620 I will move that we approve a side letter between the county of Mariposa and the Mariposa 1437 02:17:20,620 --> 02:17:25,760 County managerial confidential organization to increase the longevity bonus. 1438 02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:29,210 And I will second the motion. 1439 02:17:29,570 --> 02:17:30,450 Thank you. 1440 02:17:30,550 --> 02:17:30,750 Okay. 1441 02:17:30,830 --> 02:17:33,630 It's been moved in seconded that we approve this side letter. 1442 02:17:34,330 --> 02:17:35,110 All in favor? 1443 02:17:35,370 --> 02:17:35,930 Say aye. 1444 02:17:36,990 --> 02:17:37,830 Any opposed? 1445 02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:39,790 Any abstain? 1446 02:17:41,010 --> 02:17:42,630 And the side letter is approved unanimously. 1447 02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:43,570 Thank you, Chris. 1448 02:17:44,830 --> 02:17:44,970 Okay. 1449 02:17:45,430 --> 02:17:46,130 Board information. 1450 02:17:48,290 --> 02:17:50,010 Anybody got anything for the good of the order here? 1451 02:17:50,810 --> 02:17:51,470 Just real quickly. 1452 02:17:51,690 --> 02:17:56,130 I just want to emphasize what Katie from Mountain Crisis mentioned that they're. 1453 02:17:56,130 --> 02:18:05,590 take back the night is tomorrow night, August 2nd, and I think it starts at 5, 3rd. 1454 02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:07,490 Yep, yep, no crisis. 1455 02:18:08,510 --> 02:18:10,590 So please be there to show your support. 1456 02:18:13,180 --> 02:18:15,420 I had a couple of things that I wanted to bring up. 1457 02:18:15,420 --> 02:18:23,320 One is that we had our big thing in North County this weekend, the coyote fast and was a phenomenal event. 1458 02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:30,260 great turnout and I actually got to be a for the first time ever in my life a judge in the 1459 02:18:30,260 --> 02:18:39,960 car show and that was absolutely gonna be memorable for me. It was so much fun but public works 1460 02:18:39,960 --> 02:18:45,460 Sheriff's Office, Cal Fire was there everybody and I just wanted to say thank you to all of those 1461 02:18:45,460 --> 02:18:52,840 groups and for everything that they did and most may recall that we had a pretty devastating 1462 02:18:52,840 --> 02:19:00,060 fire and colderville a few months ago where we lost six trailers and one of our residents. 1463 02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:07,820 And I am proud to say, although it has been an awful lot of work, we are probably about 1464 02:19:07,820 --> 02:19:15,800 a week, we can have a way from bringing those people home and the community came together. 1465 02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:25,540 a lot of volunteers, a lot of nonprofits, and donations replaced all of the homes for them. 1466 02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:34,200 And we are literally days away from the final step, which is the soil testing to be completed 1467 02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:40,180 in the results, and once we get that done, these people get it come home, so it's been 1468 02:19:40,180 --> 02:19:47,620 heck of a thing and a lot of folks involved. It's not the county's responsibility to do that or to 1469 02:19:47,620 --> 02:19:54,600 do anything about that, but not a lot of people stepped up and will do some kind of an acknowledgement 1470 02:19:54,600 --> 02:20:05,020 on that. The last thing I wanted to mention here is I tended to park service meeting some of you 1471 02:20:05,020 --> 02:20:10,160 me know about that just recently in Groville and a couple of weeks ago and I got to say 1472 02:20:10,160 --> 02:20:13,800 I'm pretty disappointed in how the whole meeting got presented. 1473 02:20:15,660 --> 02:20:22,540 It was basically the part service was talking about the impacts that it's had on the gateway 1474 02:20:22,540 --> 02:20:23,080 communities. 1475 02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:30,760 We're one to all of me as another as well as some other counties, but they portrayed it 1476 02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:35,980 you're going to get up and go and ask questions kind of like this venue and that was not the 1477 02:20:35,980 --> 02:20:40,860 case. They came up with four solutions and you basically had to pick one and none of them were 1478 02:20:40,860 --> 02:20:48,300 really something that I like. It caught the attention of Tualami County supervisors, their board, 1479 02:20:49,180 --> 02:20:57,060 which they have now passed. I don't know what you would call that, but basically a resolution 1480 02:20:57,060 --> 02:20:59,880 and disagreeing with what the Park Service has done. 1481 02:20:59,980 --> 02:21:03,020 And I want to put that on our radar here. 1482 02:21:03,500 --> 02:21:06,340 I have got a meeting this afternoon with one 1483 02:21:06,340 --> 02:21:09,820 of the supervisors in Tualme County, whom I know quite well, 1484 02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:13,580 to get there and put on it. 1485 02:21:13,820 --> 02:21:17,260 I know, Joe and I worked on this a little bit 1486 02:21:17,260 --> 02:21:21,140 as well as I met with Carrie from the Chamber 1487 02:21:21,140 --> 02:21:26,440 and Jacob, the Visitor Center, and looked at all 1488 02:21:26,440 --> 02:21:30,780 of the data as far as has it heard us or helped us, 1489 02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:33,260 has it impacted us as a negative positive. 1490 02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:35,720 And it's, I got to be honest with you, 1491 02:21:35,960 --> 02:21:38,420 it's hard to disseminate that because, well, 1492 02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:42,300 our revenue was up in top taxes, 1493 02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:46,320 our top funding, the traffic was way down. 1494 02:21:46,380 --> 02:21:49,960 So I don't know, but I guess my point is, 1495 02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:52,080 and with that I wanted to bring up here, 1496 02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:55,200 is they don't really seem to address what I see 1497 02:21:55,200 --> 02:22:02,100 the core of the issue here, and that is the traffic. If that's their goal here with the 1498 02:22:02,100 --> 02:22:09,880 Reservation System is reducing traffic. There's other solutions for that, you know, parking 1499 02:22:09,880 --> 02:22:16,440 facility and busing people in, and I don't think we're stricting or limiting the number of people 1500 02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:23,820 that get to visit this jewel that we have in our backyard is necessarily, in my opinion, the right answer. 1501 02:22:23,820 --> 02:22:29,280 So I don't know what is, but I just hope that maybe the board would. 1502 02:22:42,060 --> 02:22:52,340 I'm happy to have that conversation. I've actually spent a fair amount of time going through the background information through the vamp itself, the visitor access management plan. 1503 02:22:52,340 --> 02:23:00,840 I, my husband and I also attended every workshop except one, he had a heart attack the day before. 1504 02:23:01,480 --> 02:23:08,100 Workshop for the Merced River Plan, and I'll note that the Merced River Plan, also talked about capacity, 1505 02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:16,360 as did the Tualami River Plan. So there is an end-the-management plan of 1980. There is a huge amount of data 1506 02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:22,960 that underlies the work that's been done in the context of the visitor access management plan. 1507 02:23:23,420 --> 02:23:45,420 And I'd have to go back in time, and maybe talk with somebody at the park, but they also brought in a consultant at one point in time to analyze the implications of changes, potential changes at that time in visitor access in terms of the economies of the surrounding communities. 1508 02:23:45,420 --> 02:23:53,240 So there's a huge amount of data out there and I'm happy to work with you to bring any and all of it forward. 1509 02:23:57,240 --> 02:23:59,320 I'm Marina, there's a hat under your chair. 1510 02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:01,960 Okay, all right. 1511 02:24:02,320 --> 02:24:03,020 Good deal. 1512 02:24:03,740 --> 02:24:05,900 Didn't want you to get sun in your eyes out there. 1513 02:24:07,880 --> 02:24:08,380 Okay. 1514 02:24:10,060 --> 02:24:10,460 All right. 1515 02:24:11,780 --> 02:24:12,160 We good. 1516 02:24:12,820 --> 02:24:13,560 Moving on. 1517 02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:18,260 We're going to recess into closed session. 1518 02:24:18,260 --> 02:24:21,400 We've got two items to talk about in closed session. 1519 02:24:21,460 --> 02:24:24,100 The first one is out of administration. 1520 02:24:24,700 --> 02:24:27,760 This is a closed session conference with a labor 1521 02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:31,000 negotiator, Mariposa County Designated Representative, 1522 02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:34,620 is Shalene Bennett, the Employee Organizations, 1523 02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:37,460 is the Mariposa County Sheriff's Association, 1524 02:24:38,060 --> 02:24:43,240 and the Mariposa County Sheriff's Management Association. 1525 02:24:43,880 --> 02:24:45,920 Any public comment on this item? 1526 02:24:46,740 --> 02:24:49,500 Again, if you're on the phone, star 5, 1527 02:24:53,790 --> 02:24:55,670 no public comments, so we'll close public comment 1528 02:24:55,670 --> 02:24:56,430 on that item. 1529 02:24:57,130 --> 02:25:00,030 The second item is from the Board of Supervisors. 1530 02:25:00,650 --> 02:25:03,090 This closed session item is public employment. 1531 02:25:03,830 --> 02:25:06,710 The title of the position to be filled is the county council. 1532 02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:09,190 Any public comment on this item? 1533 02:25:12,630 --> 02:25:14,270 Star 5, if you're on the phone. 1534 02:25:16,330 --> 02:25:19,010 Okay, no public comment, I'll close public comment. 1535 02:25:19,010 --> 02:25:26,170 And we will recess into closed session. I will report out when we reconvene at 2 p.m. 1536 02:25:26,470 --> 02:25:27,130 We are in recess. 1537 02:27:42,590 --> 02:27:49,650 Okay, good afternoon. We'll reconvene the Board of Supervisors meeting and I will report 1538 02:27:49,650 --> 02:27:57,650 out on our closed sessions before we get into our agenda this afternoon on the first item, 1539 02:27:57,650 --> 02:28:02,150 which was a closed session conference with the Labor Negotiator. 1540 02:28:02,990 --> 02:28:04,550 Information was received. 1541 02:28:04,850 --> 02:28:05,870 Direction was given. 1542 02:28:06,970 --> 02:28:10,170 On the second item in closed sessions was public employment. 1543 02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:12,770 Title of position to be filled. 1544 02:28:13,810 --> 02:28:15,970 Information was received and direction was given. 1545 02:28:17,630 --> 02:28:17,810 Okay. 1546 02:28:18,930 --> 02:28:20,470 We got one item this afternoon. 1547 02:28:26,610 --> 02:28:28,950 This is from the Planning Department. 1548 02:28:29,870 --> 02:28:32,830 You want me to read it, or shall I just save that for you? 1549 02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:41,600 Asking this board to authorize the county of Mariposa to join a statewide community infrastructure 1550 02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:42,500 program. 1551 02:28:43,580 --> 02:28:49,280 Authorize the California statewide community's development authority to accept applications 1552 02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:56,300 from property owners, conduct special assessment proceedings, and levees assessments and special 1553 02:28:56,300 --> 02:29:03,100 taxes to form assessment districts and community facilities districts within the territory 1554 02:29:03,100 --> 02:29:05,100 of the county of Maraposa. 1555 02:29:06,020 --> 02:29:11,360 Embodying a joint community facilities agreement, setting forth the terms and conditions 1556 02:29:11,930 --> 02:29:19,580 of community facilities district financeings, approving form of acquisition agreement for 1557 02:29:19,580 --> 02:29:24,280 use when applicable and authorized-related actions. 1558 02:29:26,940 --> 02:29:30,700 Good afternoon board, ladies and gentlemen, 1559 02:29:33,490 --> 02:29:35,770 thank you for hearing this item, considering this 1560 02:29:35,770 --> 02:29:36,090 item. 1561 02:29:36,450 --> 02:29:40,110 The planning department wanted to just bring this item to the board for a consideration 1562 02:29:40,110 --> 02:29:45,490 because it looks as though to us that there is an opportunity here that would be part 1563 02:29:45,490 --> 02:29:50,170 of a toolbox that would potentially assist with development when development comes in. 1564 02:29:50,370 --> 02:29:56,310 In fact, it covers certain aspects of projects such as a recent project, a high place project, 1565 02:29:56,310 --> 02:29:59,970 with there's a public facility sidewalk is it? 1566 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:26,320 Part of that project. And so, today we have, with us, will is going to take the lead on this, and we have the representative James Hamilton. He's from the Statewide Community Infrastructure Program. And so, there's a little presentation and just to go over a little bit, go through the presentation and go to some questions and answers, and would like to gather your input on this. And so, that being said, well. 1567 02:30:27,180 --> 02:30:32,100 You all just pass it right to James from C.S.C.D.A. James, you own the line? 1568 02:30:33,240 --> 02:30:33,580 Hi. 1569 02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:34,240 I'm getting hearing. 1570 02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:35,680 Yeah, we sure can. 1571 02:30:36,480 --> 02:30:36,680 Okay. 1572 02:30:36,880 --> 02:30:37,500 First, thanks well. 1573 02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:38,620 And a good afternoon, Chair. 1574 02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:39,340 My name is Edward. 1575 02:30:39,900 --> 02:30:42,160 As I mentioned, my name is James Hamel. 1576 02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:44,400 I'm a managing director with decals on it. 1577 02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:45,280 Statewide Communities. 1578 02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:46,040 Development Authority. 1579 02:30:46,820 --> 02:30:54,900 I just have a couple brief slides today on the program to give you a little background. 1580 02:30:54,900 --> 02:31:02,120 the California Statewide Community Development Authority or CSEDA or joint powers authority 1581 02:31:02,120 --> 02:31:09,400 that the county is a member to actually, you're one of the original members in 1988 in August 1582 02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:16,140 to 1988 that joined CSEDA and we're at joint powers authority that was founded by the state and 1583 02:31:16,140 --> 02:31:22,780 so state association counties in the New York California cities. As mentioned back in 1988, 1584 02:31:22,780 --> 02:31:28,200 we have over 500 and 30 members of the city's counties and districts. They wanted. 1585 02:31:29,560 --> 02:31:36,000 And the county has participated in work with CACBA for anyone that was around in 2009. 1586 02:31:36,920 --> 02:31:42,880 We did the proposition one, ACE curvisation one state was taking away revenues from all 1587 02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:49,300 latencies and we secured ties, those receivables for the county and other agencies across the state. 1588 02:31:49,300 --> 02:31:56,160 So that's a little background of who we are looking at slide one in terms of what this program is. 1589 02:31:56,620 --> 02:32:02,680 As mentioned, it's called the statewide community infrastructure program or skip as we call it. 1590 02:32:03,360 --> 02:32:12,300 We have 130 cities, counties, and special districts who are participants in the program and I'll get into a little bit more detail on who those are. 1591 02:32:12,300 --> 02:32:41,600 across the state. As you can see, we have two programs. One is a pool program. We do three times a year, where we take projects all across the state ranging in size from 500,000 to about 2 to 3 million and pool those together for cost efficiencies and economic efficiencies for this because those types of projects would not have access to this type of financing. 1592 02:32:42,300 --> 02:32:43,840 without doing a pool structure. 1593 02:32:44,440 --> 02:32:46,640 So that's one program under the umbrella. 1594 02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:50,460 Number two, if there's a larger project, 1595 02:32:50,620 --> 02:32:53,820 five million in a bug, we can do it 1596 02:32:53,820 --> 02:32:57,000 as a standalone financing for the county 1597 02:32:57,000 --> 02:32:59,740 and we've done that for other agencies that across the state. 1598 02:33:00,620 --> 02:33:02,200 Since the inception of the program, 1599 02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:05,780 we've issued a little bit over one billion in bonds 1600 02:33:05,780 --> 02:33:09,300 for 380 plus projects across the state 1601 02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:13,760 throughout the State California next slide, please. 1602 02:33:16,480 --> 02:33:19,620 So in terms of the program benefits, 1603 02:33:19,720 --> 02:33:22,240 number one, what is the benefit of the county? 1604 02:33:22,940 --> 02:33:27,800 As mentioned briefly, this is a tool in your toolbox 1605 02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:31,280 that you can offer to development that comes in. 1606 02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:34,000 It can be used for commercial industrial 1607 02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:35,760 and residential development. 1608 02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:43,400 And they can, you can offer this as a financing tool for any type of facilities, impacts, 1609 02:33:44,320 --> 02:33:48,580 fees, or improvements that are required of an approval of a project itself. 1610 02:33:49,340 --> 02:33:55,100 As developers like this project, because it helps the cash flow when they're doing construction, 1611 02:33:56,320 --> 02:33:57,860 it's off-balance sheet. 1612 02:33:57,980 --> 02:34:01,780 So it's not part of the debt, and, and, and again, a proof of cash flow. 1613 02:34:01,780 --> 02:34:09,120 And on the residential side, it can provide competitive advantages for pricing on homes. 1614 02:34:10,740 --> 02:34:17,680 If you go to the next slide, this is a map of all the different agencies across the state. 1615 02:34:18,540 --> 02:34:26,560 That I'll participate in the program, you see a large cluster in Northern California and Southern California with this matter in Central California. 1616 02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:32,460 There's a Levin County who are participating in other counties participating in the program 1617 02:34:32,460 --> 02:34:40,780 that include a few county, El Dorado County, Imperial County, Placer County, Sutter County, 1618 02:34:40,920 --> 02:34:48,560 U-book County, and then Riverside County, San Diego County in Sonoma County, just to name a few of those. 1619 02:34:49,380 --> 02:34:55,880 So, 11 counties doing it and then a whole bunch of cities and districts as you can see by this list here. 1620 02:34:56,820 --> 02:35:05,220 Next slide, in terms of how the mechanics work and this is probably the most important to you as a board. 1621 02:35:06,620 --> 02:35:14,040 So, as I mentioned, this is for projects on the lower end at 500,000 to on the larger end of 5 million. 1622 02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:22,380 The advantage to the county option into this program is from basically start to finish 1623 02:35:22,380 --> 02:35:26,340 we see SGA form the assessment district. 1624 02:35:26,620 --> 02:35:31,660 We issue the bonds for the district and we do all post fail administration. 1625 02:35:32,980 --> 02:35:37,100 So when these bonds are issued, they're placed on the tax roll. 1626 02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:41,800 They're paid over 30 years by the property owner or owners. 1627 02:35:41,800 --> 02:35:48,520 If that property is sold, and on the property tax roll, it states specifically, our name, 1628 02:35:48,740 --> 02:35:54,340 the CSEDA skip 2024, and then our phone number. 1629 02:35:54,680 --> 02:35:58,280 So you as a county, do not receive phone calls as to what is this. 1630 02:35:58,340 --> 02:36:04,820 Why is this here, and there is no liability for those bonds that are issued on that property itself. 1631 02:36:05,380 --> 02:36:11,080 So from a staffing perspective perspective, the county, it helps because we are taking over 1632 02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:17,620 that from start to finish, including holding all the public hearings and, as mentioned, all the 1633 02:36:17,620 --> 02:36:19,900 all the sample demonstration of the projects. 1634 02:36:20,760 --> 02:36:21,620 Next slide, please. 1635 02:36:23,520 --> 02:36:31,660 And lastly, this is just a flow chart of how this works from start to finish is the first 1636 02:36:31,660 --> 02:36:40,020 step is the agency, in this case, the county, adopting the resolution to participate in the 1637 02:36:40,020 --> 02:36:47,600 program. Then when an IF and application is received from a developer, we conduct all the proceedings, 1638 02:36:47,980 --> 02:36:53,880 we issue the bonds, we administer the district as you move down. We will handle the tax roll, 1639 02:36:54,160 --> 02:37:00,640 a lot to play any delinquencies, so on and so forth. And then the bond payments are paid by the 1640 02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:09,160 property owner itself. Now, lastly, before jumping into questions, you know, the question we get a lot 1641 02:37:10,020 --> 02:37:17,020 does this take away authority or powers from the county to make decisions on to participate 1642 02:37:17,020 --> 02:37:25,840 in this program and answer is no, whenever we receive an application, we come to the county 1643 02:37:25,840 --> 02:37:29,860 in this case, and you have to sign off as a county knows. 1644 02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:56,840 Board, but from a staff level on every application to move forward. If you decide not to move forward, this is a project that does not want to proceed. We see a CDA will not proceed because we are doing this on your behalf. So it does not take any authority or power away from the county itself. So I hear a lot out there. Happy to answer any questions. And if we'll or others want to fill in any blanks, I may have missed happy to defer. 1645 02:38:01,510 --> 02:38:02,910 All right. Thank you, James. 1646 02:38:06,020 --> 02:38:08,480 Any questions right off the bat before I go to public comment? 1647 02:38:09,340 --> 02:38:11,340 Do you got anybody on the phone besides James? Okay. 1648 02:38:12,500 --> 02:38:17,400 If you're on the phone line, would like to make a public comment on this presentation or program. 1649 02:38:18,180 --> 02:38:23,320 Star 5, we can get you recognized. Is there any public comment here in the boardroom? 1650 02:38:28,810 --> 02:38:32,870 I'm going to see any. In the boardroom, I don't see any hands raised online. 1651 02:38:33,550 --> 02:38:35,530 Okay, we'll close public comment, 1652 02:38:37,610 --> 02:38:40,210 bring it back to the board, 1653 02:38:43,210 --> 02:38:46,730 if no one else wants to go, I got a couple of questions written down here. 1654 02:38:47,490 --> 02:39:01,990 Okay, so I'm curious, this was a lot to absorb this item and the presentation was nice and concise, but let's just start with a couple. 1655 02:39:01,990 --> 02:39:09,130 So, what's the, how does the fine, I got so many questions, I don't know where to start. 1656 02:39:09,190 --> 02:39:12,190 Let's start with the financing terms. How does that work? 1657 02:39:15,090 --> 02:39:18,830 So, it's a 30, 30 year financing. It's a fixed rate financing. 1658 02:39:20,030 --> 02:39:27,430 So, in today's market, we're issuing bonds at about 4.7% fixed for 30 years. 1659 02:39:28,110 --> 02:39:35,870 and it is it is pre-payable. So if it's done on the residential property, if a homeowner does not, 1660 02:39:36,010 --> 02:39:42,330 if they put the home down the line in your five to 15, 20, and don't want to pay it for the additional 1661 02:39:42,330 --> 02:39:46,990 years that's on there, they can't repay them on that. 1662 02:39:49,580 --> 02:39:51,960 Okay, I didn't quite get all that. So you said 1663 02:39:52,540 --> 02:40:00,960 so if a property owner, if you did a construction loan through this murder room. No, they can if they 1664 02:40:01,700 --> 02:40:10,300 If they want to pre-pay it at any point in time, they can pre-pay instead of keeping this on the property tax for 30 years. 1665 02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:14,960 Yeah, pre-pay the financing for a construction loan? 1666 02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:21,280 Not for a construction loan for any reason if they just didn't want the debt on the property. 1667 02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:27,040 Okay, how did they get the debt on the property to begin with, I guess, is what I'm driving at? 1668 02:40:27,820 --> 02:40:33,240 because this will be an assessment or a special tax vote for financing the impact 1669 02:40:33,240 --> 02:40:40,480 and or improvements associated with the development that this program would be used for. 1670 02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:48,220 So a real life example would be for a hotel if they needed to put it in a road for sidewalks, 1671 02:40:48,940 --> 02:40:52,420 and had to find the answer, they can find the answer, 1672 02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:55,880 instead of paying cash, they would find the answer over 30 years 1673 02:40:55,880 --> 02:40:57,680 through the finance and mechanism. 1674 02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:01,680 Okay, so this isn't gonna work for a property owner 1675 02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:03,840 in the sense of a single family dwelling. 1676 02:41:05,500 --> 02:41:08,280 Not for one home, it can work for typically 1677 02:41:08,280 --> 02:41:11,560 we see residential developments of a hundred or more, 1678 02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:15,560 but it's not for a one or two or five residents. 1679 02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:26,220 Okay, and then let me get to my staff report here, so this 1680 02:41:28,430 --> 02:41:34,730 description here says, accept applications from property owners. 1681 02:41:35,090 --> 02:41:35,750 Is that us? 1682 02:41:35,870 --> 02:41:37,450 The county accepts these applications. 1683 02:41:40,030 --> 02:41:40,610 And then we can. 1684 02:41:40,690 --> 02:41:40,890 No. 1685 02:41:41,690 --> 02:41:50,890 Actually, we see a CDX, we have not my application, a developer would fill out for the program. 1686 02:41:51,250 --> 02:41:56,270 But James, it is correct that we would then approve those applications that the county of course institutions. 1687 02:41:57,290 --> 02:42:00,230 That is correct, yes. So we get the application. 1688 02:42:01,110 --> 02:42:07,750 We do our due diligence to make sure number one the project qualifies number two everything is correct. 1689 02:42:07,750 --> 02:42:17,850 And then we come to the county and we cannot move forward with any financing without the county signing that application to move forward. 1690 02:42:19,450 --> 02:42:23,750 And then who who conducts the Special Assessment Proceeding? 1691 02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:26,610 We see a CDA do. 1692 02:42:27,630 --> 02:42:30,310 And then you let me the assessment. Special taxes. 1693 02:42:31,650 --> 02:42:32,270 That's correct. 1694 02:42:32,930 --> 02:42:35,050 And if you form the assessment district. 1695 02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:37,030 Correct. 1696 02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:41,450 and the Community Facilities Districts. 1697 02:42:41,450 --> 02:42:41,670 All right. 1698 02:42:42,710 --> 02:42:45,990 So then I'm curious, is it so other than approving 1699 02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:51,810 an application, what part does the county play in this? 1700 02:42:52,290 --> 02:42:54,030 No, Adley Moot. 1701 02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:58,010 Jamesia, the county would create the conditions with the developers 1702 02:42:58,010 --> 02:42:59,850 say, hey, you need to build that sidewalk 1703 02:42:59,850 --> 02:43:00,990 as part of your project. 1704 02:43:01,530 --> 02:43:03,350 You need to have exit improvements. 1705 02:43:03,350 --> 02:43:11,590 So the county up front is creating those conditions, and that's what's getting financed as part of this project, or part of this program. 1706 02:43:13,610 --> 02:43:24,810 So we're not going to have any other staff time involved with this process other than telling the developer what they have to do to meet the conditions of development. 1707 02:43:25,210 --> 02:43:28,070 Which is an existing part of the process. 1708 02:43:30,490 --> 02:43:37,950 And the only other, the only other staff time, it would be confirming that application and everything is correct. 1709 02:43:39,370 --> 02:43:46,270 And if there are improvements when the county accepts those improvements, just accepting those improvements accordingly. 1710 02:43:46,770 --> 02:43:49,290 But that's all part of that process that you would have to do anyway. 1711 02:43:50,190 --> 02:43:54,070 So I guess what I'm missing is if this is a state program. 1712 02:43:54,650 --> 02:43:59,410 and it's all handled by the state. Why does another developer just go to you? Why does it 1713 02:43:59,410 --> 02:44:06,010 have to go through us? We're actually not part of the state. We are joined powers authority 1714 02:44:06,850 --> 02:44:15,330 and in order for us to have the powers to levying assessment within your county. We can only do 1715 02:44:15,330 --> 02:44:22,870 that with EU authorization. So we can't, we can't you serve your powers. So the reason we come to you 1716 02:44:22,870 --> 02:44:28,750 In this case, it's for you to authorize this program for us to do this to move forward. 1717 02:44:29,250 --> 02:44:29,530 I see. 1718 02:44:30,690 --> 02:44:30,870 Okay. 1719 02:44:34,010 --> 02:44:34,530 All right. 1720 02:44:37,700 --> 02:44:44,460 So, to answer, I think it might be helpful for you to lay out examples of some projects that you have 1721 02:44:44,460 --> 02:44:55,440 for financing for mother counties so that we can think about how those examples might relate to what we're 1722 02:44:56,960 --> 02:44:59,960 I think probably for the county, I mean, week. 1723 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,980 We do, as I briefly mentioned, we do residential, commercial, industrial, and part of that commercial, it's hospitality. So we have done hotel projects where part of the project will mention, maybe you construct a road to do an ingress egress type of financing to do landscaping and to pay impact fees that are associated with that project. 1724 02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:37,580 project or project. That would probably be the most applicable to the county. As I mentioned before, 1725 02:45:38,760 --> 02:45:44,940 residential, it's usually, you know, 100 units or more are using this program, which I wouldn't 1726 02:45:44,940 --> 02:45:51,510 anticipate, you have large swaths of projects up there. In that large scale, so I would have 1727 02:45:51,510 --> 02:45:59,610 business being industrial and probably commercial for that, but mostly what we've seen other 1728 02:45:59,610 --> 02:46:04,490 areas using it for is hospitality type of type of finance. 1729 02:46:06,880 --> 02:46:15,200 So, when you say hospitality type of financing, I guess first of all I am not aware that we are 1730 02:46:15,200 --> 02:46:17,280 currently charging impact fees. 1731 02:46:20,930 --> 02:46:25,690 I have, I'm correct, okay, thank you. 1732 02:46:25,710 --> 02:46:29,250 We would have conditions to a project where, you know, 1733 02:46:29,810 --> 02:46:32,150 the developer has to build something that, you know, 1734 02:46:32,330 --> 02:46:33,430 that would be a public benefit. 1735 02:46:33,930 --> 02:46:36,470 So it's not an impact fee, but there's a sidewalk. 1736 02:46:36,930 --> 02:46:37,790 There's fencing. 1737 02:46:38,190 --> 02:46:41,370 There's, you know, that could add up to the half million dollars. 1738 02:46:41,890 --> 02:46:44,170 That is a minimum for this. 1739 02:46:44,210 --> 02:46:44,930 Right, right. 1740 02:46:45,250 --> 02:46:46,770 So, so we don't have impact fee. 1741 02:46:47,070 --> 02:46:48,690 So, I understand what you're saying, 1742 02:46:48,690 --> 02:46:56,410 that we could as a condition of approval of a proposed project, say that we want you to 1743 02:46:56,410 --> 02:47:04,410 extend an existing sewer line, let's say, because we have a longer term plan for some 1744 02:47:04,410 --> 02:47:14,110 housing, maybe in an adjacent area. And so that would become the basis for the financing 1745 02:47:14,110 --> 02:47:22,170 here. Because hospitality, I'm thinking if you're building a hotel, you've got a whole lot 1746 02:47:22,170 --> 02:47:31,050 of financing that you are pulling together to be able to finance your project. So this is 1747 02:47:31,050 --> 02:47:39,990 specifically targeted at, and it sounds like a statement, but it's a question. This is specifically 1748 02:47:39,990 --> 02:47:46,050 targeted at situations where the county is imposing an addition, a requirement over and 1749 02:47:46,050 --> 02:47:53,750 above that which the let's say the hospitality company might usually include in their normal 1750 02:47:53,750 --> 02:48:01,090 financing. Is that correct? That would be correct. That's what we see. And we see a lot of 1751 02:48:01,670 --> 02:48:07,670 cities, counties, and districts. They enter into development agreements as mentioned in part of 1752 02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:14,310 development agreements is that you have to do A, B, and C, and those are outside the context 1753 02:48:14,310 --> 02:48:19,910 of what their normal finance will be able to finance, and that's where this mechanism comes in. 1754 02:48:20,110 --> 02:48:30,170 I see. Okay, got it. All right, so this is an opportunity that developers for the different types 1755 02:48:30,170 --> 02:48:37,530 of projects that you mentioned, like residential and hospitality, it's another tool in the tool belt, 1756 02:48:37,670 --> 02:48:45,990 that would make Mariposa County competitive, at least with other counties that have the same option available. 1757 02:48:46,890 --> 02:48:48,530 Is that sort of the bottom line? 1758 02:48:49,270 --> 02:48:50,810 Yes, that's fair to say. 1759 02:48:51,170 --> 02:48:54,730 And again, it's a purely voluntary program. 1760 02:48:55,450 --> 02:48:58,350 So it's not something that has to be for every project. 1761 02:48:58,570 --> 02:49:02,670 It can be for certain projects, but it is something that can be offered, 1762 02:49:02,670 --> 02:49:12,670 And especially when you're putting won't be seen is when a county or city or district is putting conditions on that you have to do this that with the other. 1763 02:49:13,490 --> 02:49:21,450 And then they say and you have this program available finance it it's an easier conversation to have some move to project forward. 1764 02:49:22,030 --> 02:49:25,670 Right. Now that makes perfect sense. Okay. Thank you very much. 1765 02:49:28,610 --> 02:49:36,810 thank you for the presentation folks. A couple of questions here and I think it was 1766 02:49:36,810 --> 02:49:43,530 just covered is that the $500,000 in, well, I'd be a pretty expensive side walk, 1767 02:49:44,130 --> 02:49:50,550 but if it covers other fees or if it was a very substantial project, I guess I could see 1768 02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:51,090 that. 1769 02:49:53,110 --> 02:49:59,210 But I had a couple other questions kind of as it relates to that. Let's say that you've 1770 02:49:59,210 --> 02:50:08,510 got a developer that has multiple projects. Let's say he's got 330 unit apartment complexes. Can 1771 02:50:08,510 --> 02:50:13,790 you bundle those together? Can they develop bundle all three of those together? 1772 02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:20,530 If they're 1773 02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:24,670 How do you get funded? 1774 02:50:26,330 --> 02:50:35,510 We're self-funded, so we charge the fee and issuance fee and an administration fee for every 1775 02:50:35,510 --> 02:50:37,070 project you're going to be funded and we do. 1776 02:50:37,290 --> 02:50:38,630 What are the fees? 1777 02:50:38,990 --> 02:50:40,310 What is it an interest rate? 1778 02:50:40,610 --> 02:50:43,830 Is it based on the amount of the money and the percentage? 1779 02:50:44,390 --> 02:50:45,330 How does that work? 1780 02:50:45,330 --> 02:50:55,390 So it's 1% up front for the issuance fee and then it's 10 basis points as for an annual administration fee. 1781 02:50:55,390 --> 02:50:57,110 What happens if they don't pay? 1782 02:50:59,880 --> 02:51:05,640 We can foreclose on them if they don't pay. 1783 02:51:06,300 --> 02:51:09,780 Unfortunately we've got that point in the 23 years of the program. 1784 02:51:12,770 --> 02:51:13,390 Okay, 1785 02:51:15,430 --> 02:51:25,230 and the rates that you guys have are those the same rates that you had when you formed the JPA. 1786 02:51:26,940 --> 02:51:30,360 I think it's a baseball market condition. 1787 02:51:31,600 --> 02:51:33,460 So they've had the very beginning of the program. 1788 02:51:33,540 --> 02:51:42,500 They were closer to 8% based on market in today's market and they will go down based upon what we're seeing now in the marketplace. 1789 02:51:42,500 --> 02:51:46,480 You know, they're between 4.7, 4.8 right now. 1790 02:51:47,800 --> 02:51:55,740 And I didn't get a chance to spend a whole lot of time looking at the list that you've got here of the participating agencies. 1791 02:51:56,400 --> 02:52:03,500 Do you have other counties in here that are similar to Mariposa that have signed onto this? 1792 02:52:04,600 --> 02:52:04,860 Comparable. 1793 02:52:04,860 --> 02:52:08,700 The other, what would be, I mean, there's 1794 02:52:08,700 --> 02:52:10,540 huge county, Alderado County, 1795 02:52:10,940 --> 02:52:14,260 plaster county, Uvo County, and 1796 02:52:14,260 --> 02:52:17,300 Stutter County, who probably the most analogous. 1797 02:52:18,320 --> 02:52:19,260 Okay, all right. 1798 02:52:19,500 --> 02:52:20,400 Thank you. 1799 02:52:20,600 --> 02:52:23,420 Supervisor Poet, your two first question to an 1800 02:52:23,420 --> 02:52:26,740 exhibit, see, you'll see what's covered by the financing. 1801 02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:28,860 So there's quite a few categories, 1802 02:52:29,580 --> 02:52:29,980 transportation and water. 1803 02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:38,920 Our system was cycle water, drainage, wastewater, parkway improvements, so to get to that $500,000 minimum. 1804 02:52:45,960 --> 02:52:54,200 Thank you. My question is, are there any fees to the county if we decide to join, and this is a cost to county, anything at all? 1805 02:52:55,300 --> 02:53:00,780 No, there's no fees to the county at all, for participation, all fees are worn by the development or developer. 1806 02:53:01,620 --> 02:53:05,340 If there are in this piggyback, I think I want to do original questions. 1807 02:53:05,700 --> 02:53:12,880 If there is admin time, any admin time that is associated with your staff as we are moving through a financing. 1808 02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:18,200 You are able to charge back your time to be covered by the financing itself. 1809 02:53:18,200 --> 02:53:24,660 themselves. So there are cities, counties, and districts who will charge for their time 1810 02:53:24,660 --> 02:53:29,740 associated with it. Typically, you know, it's ranges on the low end for 2,500 to 1811 02:53:29,740 --> 02:53:31,700 on the high end, 10,000. 1812 02:53:34,470 --> 02:53:35,570 Thank you. 1813 02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:45,600 This is a supervisor, Forsyth. Who ensures the bonds that you're going to issue? 1814 02:53:46,840 --> 02:53:50,280 So there's no insurance there. These are land secured bonds. 1815 02:53:50,280 --> 02:53:59,300 So the land is the security for the bonds, so if they're in an issue with it, then we have 1816 02:53:59,300 --> 02:54:04,380 the ability to foreclose and the bond holders have the ability to foreclose on the property itself. 1817 02:54:04,580 --> 02:54:06,120 So that's the security for it. 1818 02:54:06,580 --> 02:54:08,400 So what's the downside for the county? 1819 02:54:11,500 --> 02:54:17,180 There are, I know it sounds too good to be true, but there really isn't a downside for the county 1820 02:54:17,180 --> 02:54:22,560 from what we've seen and we get that question on the time and we can't find one and we still 1821 02:54:29,860 --> 02:54:44,500 So James, I'm sure anybody that's listening to this and I read off levying assessments and special taxes, who's receiving the assessment and tax money. 1822 02:54:46,510 --> 02:54:53,070 The bondholders. So the way this works is we go out and sell bonds. 1823 02:54:53,810 --> 02:55:02,070 And then they're sold to investors, typically large municipal funds, like a new being or 1824 02:55:03,150 --> 02:55:05,970 a fidelity mutual funds out there by these. 1825 02:55:06,070 --> 02:55:07,450 So there are the ones by these funds. 1826 02:55:07,590 --> 02:55:09,790 It's holding these in her portfolios. 1827 02:55:10,950 --> 02:55:11,170 Okay. 1828 02:55:11,290 --> 02:55:12,230 Thank you. 1829 02:55:14,160 --> 02:55:16,480 It's hard for me to imagine. 1830 02:55:19,460 --> 02:55:24,660 Given the, I'll say, condition of our county, we have no incorporated cities. 1831 02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:33,940 Small County, 17,000 population, you talked about 100 houses. 1832 02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:40,660 I don't see a single parcel in this county that could maybe down in Kathy's Valley, 1833 02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:45,400 but most of that's Williamson Act land and Conservancy land. 1834 02:55:45,400 --> 02:55:55,360 So I'm struggling with how other than a hotel, or possibly another creakside development, 1835 02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:00,740 how anybody would actually be able to access this. 1836 02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:09,320 So having said that, what the process for creating this situation here in the county is 1837 02:56:09,320 --> 02:56:11,100 is merely signing this resolution, 1838 02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:14,540 approving this resolution, and then we're in. 1839 02:56:15,160 --> 02:56:16,900 And then you're in, and then you can, 1840 02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:20,520 if you decide, six months a year, 1841 02:56:20,700 --> 02:56:22,380 two years, ten years down the road 1842 02:56:22,980 --> 02:56:25,060 that's not working, or if you don't want it there, 1843 02:56:25,200 --> 02:56:28,060 or whatever, you can withdraw at any point in time. 1844 02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:35,980 So it's like putting a spare tire 1845 02:56:35,980 --> 02:56:38,140 in the old back of the Jeep, 1846 02:56:38,820 --> 02:56:40,020 hopefully it's zero when you need it. 1847 02:56:40,140 --> 02:56:41,220 Is that what we're talking about? 1848 02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:44,380 That's a good analogy, I like that. 1849 02:56:45,730 --> 02:56:56,130 Yes, okay. Well, like I said, it was a lot to read since Thursday and it's not easy 1850 02:56:56,130 --> 02:56:58,370 reading for me anyway, 1851 02:57:00,650 --> 02:57:06,190 but this conversation has helped understand it a bit. 1852 02:57:11,880 --> 02:57:16,160 Chair. Kevin Briggs, the Assistant County Council has been working on this item and I believe 1853 02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:19,040 He's asked some things they had, it's ready to. 1854 02:57:19,380 --> 02:57:20,460 All right, thank you. 1855 02:57:23,920 --> 02:57:27,100 Chair and Board Kevin Brakes from the County Council's office. 1856 02:57:28,680 --> 02:57:34,640 The resolution that's before you was prepared by the authority, excuse me. 1857 02:57:35,340 --> 02:57:41,040 And we reviewed it for legal sufficiency, and we did have one item that we requested of 1858 02:57:41,040 --> 02:57:47,040 the authority, and they added a paragraph to section 15 of the agreement. 1859 02:57:47,040 --> 02:57:53,880 and that was circulated to your or that came late after the posting of the agenda. 1860 02:57:58,460 --> 02:58:07,520 The reason for that is we saw that as we read the agreement, it's a, there's an 1861 02:58:07,520 --> 02:58:14,460 indemnification provision in there, that section 15 that runs from the county to the authority, 1862 02:58:14,460 --> 02:58:21,280 that we would indemn that we, the county would indemnify the authority, the JPA. 1863 02:58:21,940 --> 02:58:26,640 For any claims that might come in for the roadway, or the sewer, or the lighting, 1864 02:58:26,880 --> 02:58:32,380 or whatever construction is done under this infrastructure financing. 1865 02:58:33,540 --> 02:58:38,260 We saw that indemnification running one way from the county to the authority. 1866 02:58:38,260 --> 02:58:42,340 And we thought, well, shouldn't it be reciprocal? 1867 02:58:42,820 --> 02:58:56,100 Shouldn't they be indemnifying the county for their levy and bond work and collection of the assessments or the text special taxes? 1868 02:58:56,980 --> 02:59:03,400 And they agreed that they would add that into Section 15, and that's what's present before you. 1869 02:59:04,100 --> 02:59:08,120 I would say, and this is not, this does not go to the legal 1870 02:59:08,120 --> 02:59:11,060 sufficiency of the document if the board wants to proceed. 1871 02:59:11,320 --> 02:59:13,000 We believe that the document is sufficient. 1872 02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:17,900 But because it's reciprocal, and because right now this is a 1873 02:59:17,900 --> 02:59:22,280 unilateral act of the board, the adoption of this resolution, 1874 02:59:23,060 --> 02:59:32,760 we would suggest that before an actual project specific financing is done that we would have 1875 02:59:32,760 --> 02:59:40,120 a bilateral agreement signed by both parties where we would have that reciprocal indemnification. 1876 02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:46,680 Just so, you know, I believe that they have indicated their willingness to do that, 1877 02:59:46,680 --> 02:59:56,520 because they have said in section 15 that adoption by the commission of the authority of each resolution 1878 02:59:56,520 --> 02:59:59,980 to contention to form a CFD community facility system. 1879 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,760 Our assessment district shall constitute agreement by the authority to indemnify the county for claims or damages 1880 03:00:08,760 --> 03:00:15,680 arising out of the formation or administration of the CFD or assessment district. That's 1881 03:00:15,680 --> 03:00:21,900 well in good, but they're not signing this document. And so we believe that if the board does 1882 03:00:21,900 --> 03:00:29,000 proceed that at a later time we should have a bilateral agreement with the authority. Thank you. 1883 03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:47,410 Thank you. So a couple more questions. The JPA, James, is everybody in this list, a member of this JPA, is it just one huge JPA, or will we be in, say, a rural county section of it? 1884 03:00:48,210 --> 03:01:05,590 So, you're at the counties that we remember to our GPS, you joined in 1988, you would be a member of a participant in the skip program, so you'd be added to the list of skip participants of the 130 plus there. 1885 03:01:06,730 --> 03:01:09,610 And then is there a board that governs this JPA? 1886 03:01:10,530 --> 03:01:19,330 there's there's a board it's made up of typically former city managers and former county 1887 03:01:19,330 --> 03:01:29,630 county employee folks former some are current some are not current I mean members 1888 03:01:29,630 --> 03:01:36,350 are on the board there are seven with two alternates so nine total nine total 1889 03:01:39,580 --> 03:01:40,360 okay 1890 03:01:40,360 --> 03:01:58,750 and how often does that board turn over or it's every three, it's a three-year term for every member and they can stay on, they typically stay on for two terms and then roll off. 1891 03:02:00,350 --> 03:02:01,670 Okay, thank you. 1892 03:02:04,340 --> 03:02:05,640 Go ahead, supervisor foresight. 1893 03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:15,520 have a question of planning how many projects that are in the hopper would benefit from this particular agreement? 1894 03:02:16,820 --> 03:02:26,420 Yeah, I think Plane Director mentioned specifically the high-up place project that would be a good candidate for this program, 1895 03:02:26,620 --> 03:02:31,020 but then would then have to be approved by the Plane Department before it went through. 1896 03:02:31,020 --> 03:02:39,600 And then I think supervisor Ministries thought of, you know, if there's a future multi-family housing, you know, 1897 03:02:39,720 --> 03:02:41,140 you know, a creakside type development. 1898 03:02:41,260 --> 03:02:42,420 Yeah, nothing else in the hopper. 1899 03:02:43,080 --> 03:02:43,220 Yeah. 1900 03:02:43,820 --> 03:02:44,020 Correct. 1901 03:02:45,120 --> 03:02:51,100 My personal opinion is I think we ought to tap the brakes on this and give a little more thought. 1902 03:02:52,300 --> 03:02:53,680 That's my opinion. 1903 03:02:57,970 --> 03:03:06,080 If it's all set up to go and a project comes along, 1904 03:03:06,860 --> 03:03:08,780 I could apply these projects. 1905 03:03:09,380 --> 03:03:14,100 I mean, we've got two on the board, so to speak right now. 1906 03:03:14,360 --> 03:03:19,620 Brown Baron and Hyatt, can they, is it too late for them to access this program? 1907 03:03:23,020 --> 03:03:25,480 The second question, Stephen, for a planning director, 1908 03:03:25,740 --> 03:03:27,540 I'm not sure whether it would be too late or not. 1909 03:03:27,620 --> 03:03:29,480 I'd have to check which aims on that. 1910 03:03:29,480 --> 03:03:33,860 They do have some public infrastructure improvements associated with that project. 1911 03:03:34,560 --> 03:03:44,720 I do know there are discussions with that project applicant that they've been running into some issues associated with increasing costs for part of their project. 1912 03:03:45,160 --> 03:03:47,220 Certainly, the high place project is of interest. 1913 03:03:48,080 --> 03:03:49,140 There could be other projects. 1914 03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:51,620 I mean, they're not in application stage. 1915 03:03:51,620 --> 03:04:01,640 We have a, you know, we have some Creek Parkway related projects, a firmer property, there's some other things that could come into the mix in the future. 1916 03:04:02,780 --> 03:04:05,700 And then there's also, you know, Missouri Gulch. 1917 03:04:06,200 --> 03:04:09,960 There's likely some public improvement infrastructure associated with that. 1918 03:04:09,980 --> 03:04:14,540 Although that is not an application today. Can't tell you whether it would need it or not. 1919 03:04:15,140 --> 03:04:20,840 Any project that would require these capital improvements for public infrastructure could potentially benefit from it. 1920 03:04:20,840 --> 03:04:31,620 I don't have a crystal ball on all of those that could occur, but certainly we would definitely be interested in having this available to folks. 1921 03:04:32,740 --> 03:04:41,400 For the Board's sake, in conversation, how I learned about this was through the discussions with the guinea from the high place project. 1922 03:04:42,040 --> 03:04:49,100 There were some meetings that were held and he called me and asked me if we were participating in this and it prompted me to look into it in more detail. 1923 03:04:49,100 --> 03:04:54,220 So, as a result, he had indicated, well, as a part of that conversation, he had indicated 1924 03:04:54,220 --> 03:04:58,300 some of the creasing costs for their financials on their side, and that they were participating 1925 03:04:58,300 --> 03:05:02,120 in another jurisdiction of something similar to another jurisdiction, a project they were 1926 03:05:02,120 --> 03:05:02,900 working on. 1927 03:05:03,660 --> 03:05:06,680 So, we do know there's some interest, we obviously know there's interest throughout the 1928 03:05:06,680 --> 03:05:12,400 other jurisdictions that are listed, and so it would be of interest for us to at least see 1929 03:05:12,400 --> 03:05:13,420 this through. 1930 03:05:13,780 --> 03:05:18,100 I would understand if there's additional discussion or information that the board seeks 1931 03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:22,040 certainly let us know we'd be happy to gather that information. 1932 03:05:22,900 --> 03:05:24,100 Thank you. 1933 03:05:29,050 --> 03:05:30,590 Steve, what about the surf pool? 1934 03:05:30,990 --> 03:05:31,550 Would that qualify? 1935 03:05:37,900 --> 03:05:42,000 The my understanding of the financing would be towards those public improvement, 1936 03:05:42,140 --> 03:05:45,420 the whole list that's in the resolution. 1937 03:05:46,480 --> 03:05:49,600 And it's possible there could be something associated with that. 1938 03:05:49,660 --> 03:05:52,700 They don't have their full application in yet, 1939 03:05:52,960 --> 03:05:56,000 so we don't know all the details of everything that would be required. 1940 03:05:56,000 --> 03:06:03,700 So when you say public improvement, if they built the solar field that they're talking about 1941 03:06:03,700 --> 03:06:09,040 doing, now granted they would be utilizing the power from it, but also they want to build 1942 03:06:09,040 --> 03:06:14,900 as you know, a backup power source for the community of Don't Lake, Don Pedro. 1943 03:06:18,120 --> 03:06:20,140 Is that what that qualifies under that deficit? 1944 03:06:20,140 --> 03:06:20,840 I don't know. 1945 03:06:20,840 --> 03:06:25,100 I couldn't give you an answer without evaluating the details of that specifics of that. 1946 03:06:25,100 --> 03:06:46,740 But certainly, we would look at those types of situations that others for whether or not this could be beneficial for that we would lean on the skip program folks to look at what beats their requirements first, and then we will look at what the obligations might be under a entitlement application. 1947 03:06:47,800 --> 03:06:50,400 There's a wide range of things that are listed in that. 1948 03:06:50,720 --> 03:06:53,120 Will could you bring that, or you just throw that up? 1949 03:06:54,160 --> 03:06:58,740 And certainly, some of those things could be financed through this. 1950 03:06:59,240 --> 03:07:06,900 And my impression is that this is, as mentioned earlier, there's another stream of financing 1951 03:07:06,900 --> 03:07:10,580 that's available that would be locked in for them, and they can count on that. 1952 03:07:10,680 --> 03:07:14,420 And that's something worth their construction project, you know, that they penciled 1953 03:07:14,420 --> 03:07:21,100 before they went through entitlement and, you know, takes a while to get through the process with an EIR or other larger projects. 1954 03:07:22,200 --> 03:07:24,700 That type of cost go up. 1955 03:07:25,360 --> 03:07:27,460 Maybe they're financing mechanisms, couldn't cover that. 1956 03:07:27,880 --> 03:07:29,980 So for the wave pools specifically, in those types of... 1957 03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:33,940 I think that we would want to look at what those answers are. 1958 03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:39,020 Thank you. So just I guess two things that I wanted to point out, thank you, Steve. 1959 03:07:40,480 --> 03:07:47,240 First of all, is who really is endorsed this and who created this was through CSAC, 1960 03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:57,220 which I think we've all had pretty favorable and positive things that we've garnered through CSAC. 1961 03:07:57,220 --> 03:08:04,720 The second thing is, are three things, and I guess, is it doesn't seem like going back 1962 03:08:04,720 --> 03:08:10,360 well, even if we went back, say, 10 years, how many things would have qualified for this? 1963 03:08:10,760 --> 03:08:15,260 And all that it is, thirdly, is it just another revenue source? 1964 03:08:17,140 --> 03:08:17,980 Pardon me? 1965 03:08:18,460 --> 03:08:19,040 Financing. 1966 03:08:19,820 --> 03:08:20,080 Not revenue. 1967 03:08:20,520 --> 03:08:20,740 Yeah. 1968 03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:22,820 I was testing you, and you passed. 1969 03:08:24,500 --> 03:08:30,580 It's another financing source and so if we're talking about a handful of things over 10 years 1970 03:08:30,580 --> 03:08:39,440 I don't, and then given who created it and I just, I mean, it sounds too good to be true, 1971 03:08:39,880 --> 03:08:45,000 but I think that it passes all the tests that I've seen so far so thank you again. 1972 03:08:53,640 --> 03:09:18,540 So, it sounds like we don't have anything in the wings that will be held up by failure to move forward on this particular item today, but I agree with Supervisor Poe, there's no harm in getting it in place in the way we want to see it. 1973 03:09:18,540 --> 03:09:30,320 So I guess my question is given the input from Kevin Briggs, does it make sense to inquire 1974 03:09:30,320 --> 03:09:40,960 whether CSCDA is willing to allow us to modify the resolution such that it encompasses 1975 03:09:40,960 --> 03:09:43,700 is the concept of a reciprocal indemnification. 1976 03:09:46,540 --> 03:09:48,620 And then move forward from there. 1977 03:09:51,180 --> 03:09:54,180 This change again, we've agreed to that already. 1978 03:09:55,340 --> 03:09:57,420 So that can be included in our council's 1979 03:09:57,420 --> 03:09:59,520 agreed to then set that language over. 1980 03:09:59,820 --> 03:10:02,520 I think what Kevin was indicating about an educational 1981 03:10:02,520 --> 03:10:06,840 agreement, which again, we're amenable to. 1982 03:10:06,920 --> 03:10:11,220 But the language and resolution, we are amenable to that. 1983 03:10:11,220 --> 03:10:14,940 So let me understand what you just said. 1984 03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:20,280 You're looking at an agreement that is separate from the resolution. 1985 03:10:23,420 --> 03:10:26,960 That's what I think Kevin was indicating would be recommended, 1986 03:10:27,120 --> 03:10:29,360 which we're fine with for that. 1987 03:10:29,360 --> 03:10:34,780 But we're also, we added some language to Kevin's point to the resolution. 1988 03:10:36,140 --> 03:10:40,200 That would incorporate an identification both ways. 1989 03:10:40,200 --> 03:10:42,760 Okay, do you want to clarify Kevin? 1990 03:10:42,920 --> 03:10:46,800 I guess their mirror image documents, is that Kevin? 1991 03:10:47,460 --> 03:10:49,880 Kevin breaks from the county council's office again. 1992 03:10:50,640 --> 03:10:56,340 Yes, our point is that this is a, this is a unilateral resolution that your board is considering. 1993 03:10:56,900 --> 03:11:01,480 And if it passes it binds your board, it doesn't bind the JPA. 1994 03:11:02,040 --> 03:11:07,840 So that's why we think that there needs to be a bilateral agreement where both sites sign. 1995 03:11:07,840 --> 03:11:17,720 Okay, so it sounds like your recommendation is that we bring an item back that would have the resolution and the agreement in the same. 1996 03:11:18,980 --> 03:11:29,840 It's a two step process already. There's the adoption of the resolution followed by their action on projects specific items. 1997 03:11:29,840 --> 03:11:32,160 And that's the second step. 1998 03:11:32,460 --> 03:11:37,980 We think that the agreement should be in place sometime before that second step is taken, 1999 03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:41,500 but it needn't be done concurrent with this first step. 2000 03:11:41,840 --> 03:11:45,660 The only problem is that means somebody's got to remember to take the second step for 2001 03:11:45,660 --> 03:11:46,600 our interest. 2002 03:11:47,520 --> 03:11:50,720 Let's make it as easy and straightforward as possible. 2003 03:11:51,980 --> 03:11:53,060 It would be my recommendation. 2004 03:11:53,060 --> 03:11:55,340 So, can I make a clarification? 2005 03:11:56,400 --> 03:12:03,600 The resolution with the recommended language was sent to you guys earlier this week and is attached to the packet. 2006 03:12:04,720 --> 03:12:06,240 Well, it's not attached to your packet. 2007 03:12:06,400 --> 03:12:10,200 It's attached to the agenda item for public view. 2008 03:12:11,260 --> 03:12:16,380 And this item would just take the unimended action for the resolution. 2009 03:12:18,200 --> 03:12:19,920 You would need to approve it as amended. 2010 03:12:20,620 --> 03:12:21,360 Those suggestions. 2011 03:12:21,360 --> 03:12:49,000 Right, yeah, no, I'm just wondering if it makes sense to, if there is interest in having this other tool in our tool belt, when eventually we have a development project that could benefit from this tool that we take it all in one package rather than the two step, which is a nice dance, but you know, her to do together. 2012 03:12:49,000 --> 03:12:49,860 I 2013 03:12:55,530 --> 03:13:04,790 don't. I really don't. Okay. Who else? Sure. 2014 03:13:07,170 --> 03:13:10,570 So this is for James. James, if we 2015 03:13:10,570 --> 03:13:18,390 decided not to approve this today and we had an interested party come to us in a 2016 03:13:18,390 --> 03:13:29,130 month or two. Is that possible to get things going right away to go ahead and 2017 03:13:29,130 --> 03:13:36,470 three application period. We have, so the next one is December 1. So as long as the county took 2018 03:13:36,470 --> 03:13:44,790 action before December 1st, and that project or projects wanted to move forward in the next 2019 03:13:44,790 --> 03:13:54,750 school, that would be the time that we do look at that. Thank you. So let's dig into that a little 2020 03:13:54,750 --> 03:13:58,710 James, so three application periods per year? 2021 03:14:00,470 --> 03:14:03,310 Yeah, so we get, we have, so let me just 2022 03:14:03,310 --> 03:14:04,990 I'll give you this three application deadlines. 2023 03:14:05,110 --> 03:14:07,490 Here's December 1st for our first 2024 03:14:07,490 --> 03:14:10,170 Bond series next year because we're done. 2025 03:14:10,210 --> 03:14:12,810 We're basically done with 2025 or 24. 2026 03:14:13,070 --> 03:14:13,470 I'm sorry. 2027 03:14:15,050 --> 03:14:18,750 Then the next application deadline after December 1 is equal 2028 03:14:18,750 --> 03:14:23,610 I'm 25 and then our next application deadline after 2029 03:14:23,610 --> 03:14:25,750 that is August 1st, 2025. 2030 03:14:27,650 --> 03:14:31,550 So those are the three windows that we're looking at. 2031 03:14:34,470 --> 03:14:37,070 Oh, I see September, we're so that, 2032 03:14:37,230 --> 03:14:39,190 and how long is each application period? 2033 03:14:41,010 --> 03:14:44,210 So basically, so that December 1st applications, 2034 03:14:45,670 --> 03:14:48,010 we issue bond at the end of May. 2035 03:14:48,190 --> 03:14:50,550 So it's typically about a five to six month process 2036 03:14:50,550 --> 03:14:51,810 from start to end. 2037 03:14:52,230 --> 03:14:52,470 Okay. 2038 03:14:54,170 --> 03:14:54,830 Thank you. 2039 03:14:56,890 --> 03:14:57,270 Yes, sir. 2040 03:14:58,410 --> 03:14:59,970 Um, if it's, uh, any of them. 2041 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,480 All to the board, given the discussion, 2042 03:15:06,080 --> 03:15:09,580 it is possible that we could continue this to date 2043 03:15:09,580 --> 03:15:17,280 certain it was a publicly noticed requirement for this action and work with council and skip 2044 03:15:17,280 --> 03:15:22,760 program folks to bring in any language for the resolution and we could do it that way that 2045 03:15:22,760 --> 03:15:27,960 way the Reno signal would have to occur. That would allow us to opportunity to take a look 2046 03:15:27,960 --> 03:15:33,280 providing additional information for the resolution that based on the discussion. 2047 03:15:34,260 --> 03:15:41,100 I think it would also be worthwhile to contact the two major projects that are on the board, 2048 03:15:41,160 --> 03:15:48,300 so to speak right now, if they could apply their projects to this program, 2049 03:15:48,860 --> 03:15:54,900 and if the developers of those projects would be interested in applying their projects to this program. 2050 03:15:56,310 --> 03:16:02,990 I can do that. I can't say guinea re-stow it directly on the high-place project and was interested in the program. 2051 03:16:03,650 --> 03:16:07,970 I can confirm definitively and bring that information back as well as the other projects. 2052 03:16:10,830 --> 03:16:15,150 So let me understand this. So what's the process between applying, 2053 03:16:15,870 --> 03:16:21,810 for let's say the high-up project, hold on Steve, here in the county and applying for this program. 2054 03:16:22,050 --> 03:16:24,470 Does one happen before the other or do they do it simultaneously? 2055 03:16:31,720 --> 03:16:49,080 So as long as the next application deadline is December 1st, we would need the county to take action before December 1st to opt in via this resolution because we're not going to move forward unless you are okay moving forward on this. 2056 03:16:49,080 --> 03:16:54,260 And so for us to move forward, how much of a process does it have to go through the planning department? 2057 03:16:55,640 --> 03:17:00,120 Does it have to have permit and conditions met and ready to build? 2058 03:17:00,520 --> 03:17:01,260 I would assume. 2059 03:17:01,680 --> 03:17:01,900 Yeah. 2060 03:17:02,360 --> 03:17:03,600 You need to be a final map. 2061 03:17:03,900 --> 03:17:05,880 So it doesn't need to be ready to go. 2062 03:17:07,620 --> 03:17:10,340 And incidentally, that is the case with the high place project. 2063 03:17:10,760 --> 03:17:12,560 They've got their building permit application. 2064 03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:14,660 And they've already went through a design review. 2065 03:17:16,080 --> 03:17:16,780 They're looking to build. 2066 03:17:19,980 --> 03:17:26,020 But just to clarify further, do they need their permit issued from Mariposa County to apply 2067 03:17:26,020 --> 03:17:27,460 for this project program? 2068 03:17:28,900 --> 03:17:28,920 No. 2069 03:17:31,870 --> 03:17:31,950 Let's see. 2070 03:17:31,990 --> 03:17:32,930 Four issued bonds. 2071 03:17:32,950 --> 03:17:34,270 Two issued bonds. 2072 03:17:34,870 --> 03:17:35,210 They need to. 2073 03:17:36,110 --> 03:17:36,590 Okay. 2074 03:17:38,700 --> 03:17:39,000 Okay. 2075 03:17:39,000 --> 03:17:39,780 So they get ready. 2076 03:17:39,860 --> 03:17:40,940 They apply for the program. 2077 03:17:41,960 --> 03:17:43,780 You go through the rest of that process. 2078 03:17:45,000 --> 03:17:49,060 Then they get their permit from the county and then they can receive the bond money. 2079 03:17:50,240 --> 03:17:51,140 That's pretty much God. 2080 03:17:51,140 --> 03:17:54,440 That's my understanding, James, unless you have a clarification for the board. 2081 03:17:55,780 --> 03:17:56,300 That's correct. 2082 03:18:02,080 --> 03:18:05,820 Yeah, so we've heard what Supervisor Ford's site said. 2083 03:18:05,980 --> 03:18:12,340 I would be interested in the two questions I asked, can these two projects get in on this? 2084 03:18:12,860 --> 03:18:13,860 Do they want to? 2085 03:18:13,940 --> 03:18:23,760 You said yes for I, and come back with that and maybe give us a little more time too. 2086 03:18:23,760 --> 03:18:32,260 As Lame and me, I read this thing once and I attempted to do it a second time and it was just 2087 03:18:32,260 --> 03:18:39,800 It's a lot of legalese language in there. Good for you, Kevin. It's it's hard reading for me 2088 03:18:40,120 --> 03:18:47,520 Yeah, I was a bit challenging for me as well and not a heavy finance background for myself and so I was definitely 2089 03:18:48,300 --> 03:18:51,380 appreciative of Kevin's review and the indemnification 2090 03:18:52,360 --> 03:18:54,020 change that he was requesting. 2091 03:19:07,620 --> 03:19:13,620 Is that the consensus? It's fine. It's fine. I'm getting 2092 03:19:13,620 --> 03:19:20,100 consensus on the other loud shake their heads. They have to speak. Yes, I agree to get 2093 03:19:20,100 --> 03:19:22,480 more information in combat. Okay, great. 2094 03:19:25,380 --> 03:19:31,800 About this end. Sorry, I missed. So, what I said 2095 03:19:31,800 --> 03:19:37,700 to the investigation on the two big projects that are on the board and then come back? 2096 03:19:38,260 --> 03:19:46,220 I think that's fine. I mean, that's kind of where we were coming down as far as this conversation. 2097 03:19:47,360 --> 03:19:54,660 There is no cost to the county in terms of selling the county as a potential development location. 2098 03:19:54,660 --> 03:19:57,860 And it is a nice to have, right? 2099 03:19:57,860 --> 03:20:03,660 If you're a developer and you're talking about financing a project somewhere between 500,000 2100 03:20:03,660 --> 03:20:11,920 and 5 million, or 35 million, sorry, you know, it's we're in a competitive situation at some 2101 03:20:11,920 --> 03:20:16,880 level and it's nice to be at least on an even playing field in terms of being able to offer 2102 03:20:16,880 --> 03:20:18,460 this financing option. 2103 03:20:19,640 --> 03:20:23,180 If the board members need more information, that's great. 2104 03:20:23,760 --> 03:20:25,640 But I do think there is value. 2105 03:20:25,940 --> 03:20:30,240 Since we are current in terms of the information that's been collected 2106 03:20:31,320 --> 03:20:35,800 and the recommendation from County Council's office, 2107 03:20:35,900 --> 03:20:39,620 I think let's do it and move on. 2108 03:20:40,260 --> 03:20:44,940 Or let's just say we don't want to play in the sandbox 2109 03:20:44,940 --> 03:20:48,340 and a lot of staff to focus on other things. 2110 03:20:52,330 --> 03:21:05,410 Well, I agree 100% I think if I was Mr. Hyatt and I called Joe and said, hey, look, you know, I'm kind of thinking about building the motel there. 2111 03:21:05,710 --> 03:21:12,850 That's a heck of a nice thing for him to bring up is that hey, we have this additional type of financing that's available to you. 2112 03:21:12,850 --> 03:21:17,770 So the two questions, are the two places that are currently would qualify for this? 2113 03:21:18,010 --> 03:21:19,190 Are they under construction? 2114 03:21:23,620 --> 03:21:26,320 There's one that is ingrating. 2115 03:21:27,460 --> 03:21:29,880 So they probably have the money at the financing anyway. 2116 03:21:32,710 --> 03:21:33,010 Maybe? 2117 03:21:34,130 --> 03:21:38,070 I can't possibly, I'm not, I'm not, yeah, I'm being facetious. 2118 03:21:38,690 --> 03:21:38,690 Anyway, 2119 03:21:41,110 --> 03:21:43,830 can I, can I comment on that? 2120 03:21:46,350 --> 03:21:53,670 So if they are doing improvements, which I'm assuming they are for this, this is a reimbursement mechanism. 2121 03:21:54,370 --> 03:21:55,850 So they would have to have their own finance. 2122 03:21:56,290 --> 03:22:01,750 So to your point, they probably do a financing, but they're looking to reimburse themselves with this financing, 2123 03:22:02,370 --> 03:22:08,890 which is much more, it's probably more than half what they're paying right now in the current financing that they have in place. 2124 03:22:11,010 --> 03:22:11,970 Thank you. 2125 03:22:13,390 --> 03:22:18,690 At some point, we have to recognize the fact that we have to do anything and everything 2126 03:22:18,690 --> 03:22:23,550 that we can possibly do in this county to try to keep from hemorrhaging and losing 2127 03:22:23,550 --> 03:22:24,210 more people. 2128 03:22:24,210 --> 03:22:26,130 and in order to do that we have to grow. 2129 03:22:26,410 --> 03:22:28,110 We have to get housing. 2130 03:22:28,390 --> 03:22:29,970 We have to attract people. 2131 03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:41,700 We have to track businesses and if we limit that to a small number of things, then it's just going to make that more difficult. 2132 03:22:44,540 --> 03:22:44,940 Yes, please. 2133 03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:48,240 Good afternoon, Mr. Jones County and Mr. Officer. 2134 03:22:49,200 --> 03:22:53,740 I would just recommend if it's brought back that we do so with a timeline. 2135 03:22:54,660 --> 03:22:57,860 As the board may or may or may not know and the public may or may not know. 2136 03:22:57,860 --> 03:23:02,300 On February 16th of 2025, the field of dreams is returned to Mariposa County, 2137 03:23:02,400 --> 03:23:09,960 as open property that has a lot of interest from developers for housing, 2138 03:23:11,200 --> 03:23:14,160 different workforce housing for you, somebody and housing for low income. 2139 03:23:14,900 --> 03:23:22,100 So if we're going to enter into this, I would, I think timing if we could be before that comes into 2140 03:23:22,100 --> 03:23:28,660 the county, I think it would either allow us to say affirmatively or specifically yes or no 2141 03:23:28,660 --> 03:23:33,400 to whether we have this program in place. So that hopefully for Steve that just helps you 2142 03:23:33,400 --> 03:23:38,420 when I find out which time we should get answers and bring this back for our discussion and 2143 03:23:38,420 --> 03:23:48,060 direction. Okay, thank you. And just to add Joe, thank you for that. There is a date certain date 2144 03:23:48,060 --> 03:23:51,800 would have to be chosen because it was a public notice hearing today. 2145 03:23:52,860 --> 03:23:56,420 So October 15 November 1st, a board date. 2146 03:23:56,560 --> 03:23:59,740 We will lock in if it's going to be continued for further consideration. 2147 03:24:01,820 --> 03:24:02,660 Why is that? 2148 03:24:02,660 --> 03:24:03,780 Why does it need a date, sir? 2149 03:24:04,940 --> 03:24:07,960 So this item was noticed publicly in the paper. 2150 03:24:08,440 --> 03:24:11,980 And to avoid having to notice again, 2151 03:24:12,240 --> 03:24:14,360 which I will note is it can be costly. 2152 03:24:16,160 --> 03:24:22,220 you continue the item to a date certain so that the listening public knows exactly when 2153 03:24:22,220 --> 03:24:27,500 this item is coming back. We give a date in a time. So 9 a.m. we're seeing there after or 2 p.m. 2154 03:24:27,680 --> 03:24:29,600 we're seeing there after. 2155 03:24:29,980 --> 03:24:31,120 All right. A paper. 2156 03:24:34,470 --> 03:24:35,270 What paper? 2157 03:24:35,490 --> 03:24:40,970 Yes. So we notice in the Gazette because it is the only paper of general circulation in our 2158 03:24:40,970 --> 03:24:44,150 county and that is under government code requirements. 2159 03:24:46,960 --> 03:24:49,320 So when can you have the information Steve? 2160 03:24:49,460 --> 03:24:51,020 I didn't generate a bunch of questions. 2161 03:24:51,020 --> 03:24:53,580 It's November 5th. 2162 03:24:53,580 --> 03:24:57,060 We're looking at November 5th for the date certain. 2163 03:24:57,180 --> 03:24:58,480 If that works for the board. 2164 03:24:59,640 --> 03:25:01,780 The 15th is a little crunchy, but. 2165 03:25:02,080 --> 03:25:04,900 It doesn't give that time much time for somebody. 2166 03:25:05,120 --> 03:25:07,640 If they wanted to get in their application by December 1st. 2167 03:25:08,340 --> 03:25:10,820 Well, that's just to join the JPA. 2168 03:25:12,200 --> 03:25:13,440 We got December 1st. 2169 03:25:18,780 --> 03:25:30,080 I'm sorry, I guess I may be honest, I thought that if anybody wanted to fill out an application to get one of these, this financing, they had to have it in by December 1st is that? 2170 03:25:30,080 --> 03:25:32,080 for this bond that she did? 2171 03:25:33,120 --> 03:25:33,260 Right. 2172 03:25:33,320 --> 03:25:33,820 They would. 2173 03:25:34,380 --> 03:25:39,740 But the application and will take them by 15, 20 minutes to fill out. 2174 03:25:39,840 --> 03:25:43,920 So if the county approved it on November 5th, 2175 03:25:44,440 --> 03:25:48,220 that would still get them plenty of times to complete an application through to us. 2176 03:25:54,630 --> 03:25:54,810 I'm sorry. 2177 03:25:55,770 --> 03:25:56,190 Good. 2178 03:25:56,610 --> 03:25:56,710 For that. 2179 03:25:57,850 --> 03:26:04,930 Can I ask you an intern county for their approving this program that day? 2180 03:26:04,930 --> 03:26:09,190 So with it's being the morning or the afternoon morning. 2181 03:26:11,670 --> 03:26:16,110 Well, if we want to do it on the first, we can do it the first item. 2182 03:26:17,870 --> 03:26:18,630 I'm sorry. 2183 03:26:19,670 --> 03:26:20,470 First item. 2184 03:26:20,990 --> 03:26:25,390 So what I'm hearing is November 5th at 9 a.m. or soon thereafter. 2185 03:26:25,830 --> 03:26:26,110 Yes. 2186 03:26:27,890 --> 03:26:34,070 And chair, if it would second, and so then I continue this to that date and time, sir. 2187 03:26:34,170 --> 03:26:35,110 Got it. 2188 03:26:35,810 --> 03:26:40,230 Being as James on the phone, James is on the phone with the 9 a.m. work for you, James. 2189 03:26:41,650 --> 03:26:46,610 Unfortunately, I'm not dying at the same time, certain time for current journey. 2190 03:26:46,610 --> 03:26:55,290 Two, two, two, two, two, two, two PM. So, events, two, three, two, a meeting after the 2191 03:26:55,290 --> 03:26:58,870 fifth or, yeah, well, 2192 03:27:02,310 --> 03:27:09,270 yeah, both. We actually do not have a meeting on the 12th of November. 2193 03:27:11,010 --> 03:27:16,170 Let's see, actually sorry, the 19th is, we do have the 12th, we do not have the 19th, the 19th, 2194 03:27:16,170 --> 03:27:17,790 canceled for C-SAC. 2195 03:27:20,740 --> 03:27:29,480 Okay, so the 12 would like to participate. So the 12 would be better for me. 2196 03:27:29,500 --> 03:27:32,380 I'm 9 a.m. That's fine. 2197 03:27:33,800 --> 03:27:37,200 So November 12, 9 a.m. or soon thereafter. 2198 03:27:40,100 --> 03:27:41,480 Okay, let's go to that down here. 2199 03:27:46,340 --> 03:27:46,640 Down here. 2200 03:27:49,500 --> 03:27:51,380 Okay, okay, that's what we'll do. 2201 03:27:53,040 --> 03:28:01,360 Okay, so date certain November 12, 9 a.m. to consider the item, we'll bring the information back and include in the board packet. 2202 03:28:01,400 --> 03:28:02,220 Thank you. 2203 03:28:07,280 --> 03:28:07,480 Okay. 2204 03:28:10,260 --> 03:28:11,820 Do I need to announce that? 2205 03:28:12,740 --> 03:28:13,260 Or... 2206 03:28:13,260 --> 03:28:14,780 It doesn't hurt to reiterate it. 2207 03:28:14,800 --> 03:28:15,160 Okay. 2208 03:28:15,760 --> 03:28:19,380 So this item is going to be continued to November 12th. 2209 03:28:20,080 --> 03:28:24,400 9 a.m. or is soon thereafter as a regular agenda item. 2210 03:28:26,280 --> 03:28:26,440 Okay? 2211 03:28:27,540 --> 03:28:27,920 All right. 2212 03:28:27,920 --> 03:28:33,080 That's all we have today, all the business before the board. 2213 03:28:34,320 --> 03:28:46,190 I will adjourn this meeting in memory of Jason Randall, Barbara Ellingson, Donna Wilkey, 2214 03:28:47,490 --> 03:28:53,790 Richard McMeekin, Vicki McMichael, and Lewis Billings. 2215 03:28:55,370 --> 03:28:56,670 And we are adjourned.