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I should be

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ready by now.

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OK. I would like to

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declare this meeting

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open on Saturday,

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September 26th, at approximately

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2:00 p.m. Hmm, this is the first

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half hour of our

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first informational

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meeting, where we'll

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tell you what we've

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been up to and

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discuss how you'll

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include articles on the

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ballot for the

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March election. And I

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can also provide some

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schedule details. Hmm,

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Nick will start by reviewing the

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procedures.

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Hmm, yes. I mean,

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we don't have that

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many people on Zoom, but

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just if you

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need to leave

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a comment, please

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use the

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hand icon that

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says "Racing"

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that's

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down there, down there, where it

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says "React"

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on the bottom bar, or

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jump up and down,

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or send me a

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comment in the comments

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and I'll put you in the

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queue, and everyone

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does, but, um,

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okay. Yes. Just, um,

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tell me your name.

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Well, this is for the people who are

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here. Hmm, when you

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say...

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you say something, say

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your name, because that

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way the transcript

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records who is

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speaking.

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Good.

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Thank you.

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Good. So, regarding

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future meetings,

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we have

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another Saturday meeting

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similar to this one on November 14th. And at

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this meeting we

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will present the

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city budget. So

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this will be really

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important. Rebecca will be

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here and she has, um, something

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similar to what she

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had last year,

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she's working on very

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detailed details

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so we can

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understand what's

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going on. Then the

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next meeting

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will be on December 10th,

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Thursday evening at

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our regular

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board meeting

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from 6:00 PM to

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8:00 PM at the community

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center to

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accommodate more

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people, and at

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that meeting, um,

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Andrew will present the

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road budget, right?

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And then, um, the

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recording continues.

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Good. Um, so the

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only meeting after that is

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scheduled for February,

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before, um, the

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last Saturday of

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February before

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the elections. Um, so in order for

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the article to be

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put to

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a vote for the

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general

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public, a

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petition with,

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um, 45-50 signatures is required, which

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will then be filed with the

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election board, and

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then forwarded to the

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city clerk

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for inclusion in,

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actually, just

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filed with the city

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clerk.

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Good. Submitted to the

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city clerk.

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Yes. If there are 50

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signatures, it's the election

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commission. No, there

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are no problems with the election commission.

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Yes. And there was some

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discussion about

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how we, um,

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represent

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charitable donations

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in the newsletter. Several

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people came up and

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said they would

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prefer they

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were separate again.

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think that, um,

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counting would take

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more time and more

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pages, and therefore

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more

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postage. So, I think

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we'll probably

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stick with the way

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we have it now,

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which is you can

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vote

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individually every

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three years on certain

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issues. So we'd

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be happy to hear it

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from people if it's

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really important. Um, the

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energy

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committee is coming tomorrow

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to discuss one thing,

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but it seems like they're

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not here. They are very excited about

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their energy

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fair, which

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will be held here at the

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community center on

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October 24th. This will be a

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practical idea that will

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help have fun

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finding ways to

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improve

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energy efficiency in the

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city, and also

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perhaps stimulate

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more commercial

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growth so we

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can drag

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some of the business from

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Bradeau into Wilmington.

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applied for a grant to

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buy the old silver

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skates that are now

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used by

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Marbor College as

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dorms and rentals

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during the ski

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season, where there is a

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professional kitchen, and

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some people want to

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put a

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co-op or a

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coffee shop or something there.

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whether the group

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working on it can

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get a grant, and whether the

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Marlborough Music Festival is willing to

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give up that

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building. So

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lately we've been working on getting

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everyone in the office to

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try to

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streamline and

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develop clear

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policies. So,

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the treasurer develops

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many rules on how

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they manage

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different parts of the

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financial movement. The

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clerks and assistant

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clerks also

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try to

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codify their

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processes so that it's

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really clear so that

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people who

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come in later and

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take on this

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job don't have to start from

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scratch. Um, and the select

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board is working on

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communication with all

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commissions and

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committees. Um, they

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clarify some things

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like how and when to

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access

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lawyers, how and when to

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get a budget, and,

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you know what, what are some

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ways to save

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some money on this.

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So it's in

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draft form right now, but we'll be

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publishing it

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for public

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discussion soon.

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That's right, a matter of

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politics. Um, we also

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finally finalized

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our road

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standards, which

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presented as a

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road ordinance, and

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we got a lot of

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feedback from

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the public. Um, and

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watched it. Which,

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good remarks.

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these

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road regulations applied

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to both private and

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public roads

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, which would be

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ridiculous. So, we

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took care of that, and we

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took it out for, uh,

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review and, uh,

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review, and we

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think it's

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pretty good now. But

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instead of

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calling it a

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regulation now, we're

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calling it, uh,

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road

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standards, which gives

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us a little more

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flexibility for

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individual situations. So

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it's not exactly

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clear cut, but you

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need to have

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this much gravel,

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you need to have

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this much space

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between this, that, and the other. Uh

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this process has been very

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positive, and we're

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open to

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further comments

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, but I think

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since it's a standard,

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we can just

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publish it.

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as soon as I get the

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official

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wording from

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Bob, it will be

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posted.

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Published. Good.

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So, the other issue that

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we're

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dealing with right now is the

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recycling center, where, uh, there's

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obviously been some

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security issues. Now the liability

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is our insurance

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group. A representative of the

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passive group

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came and agreed

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that, uh, there are some

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safety concerns with,

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, residents driving

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cars between

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giant, uh,

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cars. And it seems like it's

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only a matter of

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time before someone

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gets hit or someone

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gets hurt. People don't

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drive

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slowly enough. They don't

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pay attention to what's

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happening.

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The guys are trying

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to do their

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job. Also,

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there is a big

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problem with

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people throwing away

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trash, although we have a

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volunteer

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recycling committee

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that cleans up, the

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situation has gotten worse

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. The city sent out,

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I think, seven letters to

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residents because their

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post office was there. And the

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letter says, "You can't

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do this,

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and if it happens

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again, you will be fined

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, X, Y, and Z." But still, the way

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people

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treat it is somewhat

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discouraging. Due to

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insurance issues with the state,

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we are trying

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to find another place to do

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this. We don't want

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to close it because it's

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much more convenient

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than driving all the way to

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Bradmore, and we want to

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make sure people

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recycle. So we're

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thinking about different

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places where the city

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owns land. And

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one of the ideas is a school that used to

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be a

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recycling center. But

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we have

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security problems. So we're

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going to meet with Dan

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and

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Kayla

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to see if there's a

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way to make it so that the

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buses

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come in on one

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side and leave on the

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other, and so that the only

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way to get to the

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recycling center is

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inside, not

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where the buses

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or the kids go. I'm not

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sure if we have the

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space for that or if it's

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...I looked at

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it and it seems to me

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that if we took off

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about 12 feet of

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that rabbi netting, we

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could do it.

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It's not going to be great because

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people will still, you know,

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drive to where the

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school

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buses pull in and then

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say, "Oh my God, I

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can't," but it's our

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best option.

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Another thing is the place where the

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dog shelter used to be

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, at

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the foot of Town Hill,

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but, uh, that's going

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to cost a lot

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because it would require, um,

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rezoning and

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probably demolishing the

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building, and

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getting the

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cars off the road.

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Also, we're not

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sure if

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we're in wetlands there

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. So maybe

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it's not really worth

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it because, um, we might

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not get a

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wetland... Yeah, a

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permit or something.

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Yes, we may not have the

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opportunity. So I

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joked about

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putting it in

406
00:10:00,370 --> 00:10:01,559
Marlborough City Park, but I think

407
00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,352
that's absolutely

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forbidden.

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Not an option.

410
00:10:05,832 --> 00:10:06,818
So we think,

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00:10:06,818 --> 00:10:07,769
you know, school is the

412
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best option. Uh

413
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, you know,

414
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but the working hours

415
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are going to be tough, are

416
00:10:13,372 --> 00:10:15,007
n't they? We will

417
00:10:16,141 --> 00:10:16,988
only have to restrict public access when

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we make sure there

419
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is one entrance and exit

420
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for recycling, and it

421
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does not intersect with

422
00:10:21,310 --> 00:10:22,498
buses. We could

423
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leave it

424
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open all the time.

425
00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:25,472
Of course.

426
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I mean, it would be

427
00:10:26,921 --> 00:10:28,407
interesting to see if there

428
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is one, because it's, you know,

429
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downstairs and away from the

430
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school. Is there

431
00:10:33,162 --> 00:10:34,280
another way,

432
00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,488
you know, can we

433
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cut another

434
00:10:36,566 --> 00:10:36,960
entrance?

435
00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,631
Yes, good point

436
00:10:38,631 --> 00:10:38,688
.

437
00:10:38,688 --> 00:10:39,745
We might, you know, have to

438
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cut down

439
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a couple of trees and put

440
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some gravel in, but it's

441
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a lot cheaper than a

442
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dog

443
00:10:44,590 --> 00:10:46,874
than what's going to be there and,

444
00:10:46,874 --> 00:10:47,397
um,

445
00:10:47,397 --> 00:10:48,805
it might work. I

446
00:10:48,805 --> 00:10:50,424
just think it would be

447
00:10:50,451 --> 00:10:51,622
difficult to restrict access that much.

448
00:10:51,622 --> 00:10:52,591
We talked about

449
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not allowing

450
00:10:53,523 --> 00:10:54,898
hours. Yes. No, I

451
00:10:54,898 --> 00:10:56,225
think that's hard to

452
00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:57,049
do.

453
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We have a lot, I think,

454
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the main thing,

455
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plus we need to

456
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buy another

457
00:11:00,710 --> 00:11:01,780
camera, which costs

458
00:11:01,780 --> 00:11:02,292
$5,000.

459
00:11:02,292 --> 00:11:03,633
Yes. The main thing, I

460
00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:05,118
think Molly echoes

461
00:11:05,118 --> 00:11:06,565
, is there are a lot of options

462
00:11:06,565 --> 00:11:10,885
that we explore and

463
00:11:10,885 --> 00:11:14,172
what they do for

464
00:11:14,172 --> 00:11:15,368
me.

465
00:11:15,368 --> 00:11:16,885
Good. Uh, other things,

466
00:11:16,885 --> 00:11:18,052
I have five or

467
00:11:18,052 --> 00:11:19,869
six more things. Um, we

468
00:11:19,869 --> 00:11:20,991
apply for a

469
00:11:20,991 --> 00:11:22,284
municipal

470
00:11:22,284 --> 00:11:23,509
planning grant, which

471
00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:24,870
we submit in October, and

472
00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:26,162
in December we find out

473
00:11:26,162 --> 00:11:28,662
it's a

474
00:11:28,708 --> 00:11:29,834
$50,000 grant,

475
00:11:29,834 --> 00:11:31,205
$50,000 max

476
00:11:31,205 --> 00:11:32,366
, which we then

477
00:11:32,366 --> 00:11:33,245
hope to

478
00:11:33,245 --> 00:11:34,476
spend on Mike

479
00:11:34,476 --> 00:11:35,883
McConnell at the WRC to

480
00:11:35,883 --> 00:11:36,797
help us

481
00:11:36,797 --> 00:11:38,134
revise the basic

482
00:11:38,134 --> 00:11:39,365
zoning regulations,

483
00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:39,998
which are almost

484
00:11:39,998 --> 00:11:40,907
incomprehensible.

485
00:11:40,907 --> 00:11:42,047
Yes. Or, you know, we'll,

486
00:11:42,047 --> 00:11:43,093
depending on the amount

487
00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:43,764
we need,

488
00:11:43,764 --> 00:11:44,676
put out a request for

489
00:11:44,676 --> 00:11:45,750
proposals, and, you know,

490
00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:46,716
that might be

491
00:11:46,716 --> 00:11:47,782
validated to some extent.

492
00:11:47,782 --> 00:11:48,745
Yes. Truth.

493
00:11:48,745 --> 00:11:49,824
Over 25,000 we

494
00:11:49,824 --> 00:11:51,291
need to get

495
00:11:51,291 --> 00:11:52,212
three requests

496
00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:53,329
for things. Yes.

497
00:11:53,329 --> 00:11:54,653
So, Nancy Anderson,

498
00:11:54,653 --> 00:11:55,977
I'm just asking, what are

499
00:11:55,977 --> 00:11:57,199
your general ideas

500
00:11:57,199 --> 00:11:58,353
for using

501
00:11:58,353 --> 00:11:59,264
this money?

502
00:11:59,264 --> 00:12:00,423
Uh, we're thinking about

503
00:12:00,423 --> 00:12:01,446
reviewing the

504
00:12:01,446 --> 00:12:02,362
zoning regulations.

505
00:12:02,362 --> 00:12:04,425
A.

506
00:12:04,425 --> 00:12:05,568
Because they, uh,

507
00:12:05,568 --> 00:12:06,932
exist...I've been doing

508
00:12:06,932 --> 00:12:08,370
this work since January,

509
00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:09,624
and I've found a lot of

510
00:12:09,624 --> 00:12:10,804
things that are just

511
00:12:10,804 --> 00:12:12,777
incomprehensible.

512
00:12:12,777 --> 00:12:14,777
Wow. I don't think we

513
00:12:14,777 --> 00:12:16,024
necessarily need to

514
00:12:16,024 --> 00:12:17,143
change the rules,

515
00:12:17,143 --> 00:12:18,134
but we need to

516
00:12:18,134 --> 00:12:19,189
change the way they are

517
00:12:19,189 --> 00:12:20,435
presented so that everything is

518
00:12:20,435 --> 00:12:23,329
clear.

519
00:12:23,329 --> 00:12:24,361
For example, the

520
00:12:24,361 --> 00:12:25,493
Natural History Museum

521
00:12:25,493 --> 00:12:26,791
wanted to expand its

522
00:12:26,791 --> 00:12:27,723
parking lot, and it

523
00:12:27,723 --> 00:12:29,221
states that

524
00:12:29,255 --> 00:12:30,520
charities are or

525
00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,619
are not exempt from the

526
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following list.

527
00:12:34,561 --> 00:12:35,895
You know, it was like

528
00:12:35,895 --> 00:12:39,925
madness. So,

529
00:12:39,925 --> 00:12:40,827
even just

530
00:12:40,827 --> 00:12:42,076
walking around, and I think the

531
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rules themselves,

532
00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:44,748
like setbacks,

533
00:12:44,748 --> 00:12:47,038
lot size and, uh, different

534
00:12:47,073 --> 00:12:48,183
size restrictions, and, uh, you

535
00:12:48,183 --> 00:12:49,571
know, wildlife corridor

536
00:12:49,571 --> 00:12:50,890
, all these things that

537
00:12:50,890 --> 00:12:52,104
I've come across,

538
00:12:52,104 --> 00:12:52,937
the rules themselves

539
00:12:52,937 --> 00:12:53,839
seem pretty

540
00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:54,915
good to me; although

541
00:12:54,915 --> 00:12:55,851
an expert could

542
00:12:55,851 --> 00:12:57,170
suggest some

543
00:12:57,170 --> 00:12:58,315
changes that might make it

544
00:12:58,315 --> 00:12:59,633
easier for residents

545
00:12:59,633 --> 00:13:00,778
to do what they

546
00:13:00,778 --> 00:13:05,581
want. Um, so that's

547
00:13:05,581 --> 00:13:06,817
one of the things

548
00:13:06,817 --> 00:13:07,572
we thought about

549
00:13:07,572 --> 00:13:08,852
spending money on.

550
00:13:08,852 --> 00:13:09,962
Can we spend

551
00:13:09,962 --> 00:13:11,133
them on more than one

552
00:13:11,133 --> 00:13:11,444
thing?

553
00:13:11,444 --> 00:13:12,331
Um, actually you

554
00:13:12,331 --> 00:13:13,484
can apply for

555
00:13:13,484 --> 00:13:14,519
more

556
00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:15,110
than one

557
00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:15,967
municipal

558
00:13:15,967 --> 00:13:19,569
planning grant.

559
00:13:19,569 --> 00:13:21,096
And so I already asked,

560
00:13:21,096 --> 00:13:22,261
uh, Mike, what

561
00:13:22,261 --> 00:13:23,145
the estimate is, and you're

562
00:13:23,145 --> 00:13:25,810
asking for the amount

563
00:13:25,810 --> 00:13:27,259
you need. You

564
00:13:27,259 --> 00:13:29,209
need it. Good. And, um,

565
00:13:29,209 --> 00:13:31,581
I know that

566
00:13:31,581 --> 00:13:32,829
in the past, um, when

567
00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:33,869
they were looking at

568
00:13:33,869 --> 00:13:35,117
doing a

569
00:13:35,117 --> 00:13:36,261
city septic tank or

570
00:13:36,261 --> 00:13:37,232
something, they

571
00:13:37,232 --> 00:13:38,619
got $50,000

572
00:13:38,619 --> 00:13:40,470
and they spent it all.

573
00:13:40,470 --> 00:13:42,339
What's nice about the Mineral Planning Grant is that

574
00:13:43,595 --> 00:13:44,545
it's not a

575
00:13:44,545 --> 00:13:45,546
subsidy. In

576
00:13:45,546 --> 00:13:46,738
other words, you

577
00:13:46,738 --> 00:13:48,106
just get all the

578
00:13:48,106 --> 00:13:49,138
money. And if you

579
00:13:49,138 --> 00:13:50,262
read the booklet,

580
00:13:50,262 --> 00:13:51,323
the first thing you

581
00:13:51,323 --> 00:13:52,480
can use the

582
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,669
initial

583
00:13:53,669 --> 00:13:54,375
planning grant for,

584
00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:55,564
written in big 18-

585
00:13:55,564 --> 00:13:56,721
point font, is to

586
00:13:56,721 --> 00:13:57,974
rewrite the zoning

587
00:13:57,974 --> 00:13:58,929
.

588
00:13:58,929 --> 00:13:59,764
Yes.

589
00:13:59,764 --> 00:14:01,079
That is, they are created for this

590
00:14:01,079 --> 00:14:02,407
.

591
00:14:02,407 --> 00:14:04,469
Yes. So

592
00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:05,695
also in the office there is, you

593
00:14:05,695 --> 00:14:07,029
know, I'm sure you're

594
00:14:07,029 --> 00:14:07,858
familiar with the

595
00:14:07,858 --> 00:14:12,794
citywide

596
00:14:12,831 --> 00:14:16,313
property value revaluation. So we had a

597
00:14:16,313 --> 00:14:17,360
lot of people

598
00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,211
calling

599
00:14:18,211 --> 00:14:19,488
the police to ask

600
00:14:19,488 --> 00:14:20,634
why, from the

601
00:14:20,634 --> 00:14:21,943
Air

602
00:14:21,943 --> 00:14:23,056
Force's perspective, we had two

603
00:14:23,056 --> 00:14:25,086
hearings at the Civilian Board of

604
00:14:25,118 --> 00:14:26,100
Tax

605
00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:26,853
Abatement, one

606
00:14:26,853 --> 00:14:27,966
involving Potach

607
00:14:27,966 --> 00:14:28,752
Hill and the other involving a

608
00:14:28,752 --> 00:14:32,307
North Pond resident.

609
00:14:32,307 --> 00:14:33,897
Um, that's another thing

610
00:14:33,897 --> 00:14:36,974
we're working on. Um,

611
00:14:36,974 --> 00:14:38,258
the treasurer and the

612
00:14:38,258 --> 00:14:39,378
road crew chief

613
00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:40,168
are working on a

614
00:14:40,168 --> 00:14:40,728
way

615
00:14:40,728 --> 00:14:42,012
to forecast costs

616
00:14:42,012 --> 00:14:43,098
so that we can save

617
00:14:43,098 --> 00:14:44,020
money when we

618
00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:45,304
need to buy

619
00:14:45,304 --> 00:14:46,325
new equipment,

620
00:14:46,325 --> 00:14:47,378
instead of

621
00:14:47,378 --> 00:14:48,630
suddenly spending

622
00:14:48,630 --> 00:14:49,716
$400,000 on a new

623
00:14:49,716 --> 00:14:51,835
grater or something. And

624
00:14:51,835 --> 00:14:53,620
they call it a

625
00:14:53,651 --> 00:14:54,420
capital

626
00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:55,547
equipment replacement plan. And they

627
00:14:55,547 --> 00:14:56,563
decide that this

628
00:14:56,563 --> 00:14:57,801
document was really

629
00:14:57,801 --> 00:14:59,072
useful. We

630
00:14:59,072 --> 00:15:00,770
will publish it someday. Um,

631
00:15:00,770 --> 00:15:02,264
what kind of equipment do

632
00:15:02,264 --> 00:15:04,306
we have? How

633
00:15:04,306 --> 00:15:05,643
old is he? What is its

634
00:15:05,643 --> 00:15:06,550
expected

635
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:07,458
lifespan and

636
00:15:07,458 --> 00:15:08,647
how much will it cost

637
00:15:08,647 --> 00:15:11,569
to replace it? And then,

638
00:15:11,569 --> 00:15:12,702
according to those

639
00:15:12,702 --> 00:15:13,868
things, how much will we

640
00:15:13,868 --> 00:15:14,761
need to

641
00:15:14,761 --> 00:15:16,030
set aside from the budget

642
00:15:16,030 --> 00:15:17,197
for which years so that we

643
00:15:17,197 --> 00:15:18,570
are prepared, so that we have

644
00:15:18,570 --> 00:15:19,256
money

645
00:15:19,256 --> 00:15:20,491
consistently, um, yes, um,

646
00:15:20,491 --> 00:15:21,727
consistently, so that, um

647
00:15:21,727 --> 00:15:23,099
, be prepared so that

648
00:15:23,099 --> 00:15:24,094
we don't have to

649
00:15:24,094 --> 00:15:25,467
borrow as much to

650
00:15:25,467 --> 00:15:26,291
save on

651
00:15:26,291 --> 00:15:29,486
interest. I don't know.

652
00:15:29,486 --> 00:15:30,215
This is, you know,

653
00:15:30,215 --> 00:15:31,564
an increase in the budget,

654
00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:34,009
borrowing money. I am not a

655
00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:36,693
financier. So,

656
00:15:36,693 --> 00:15:37,973
another little thing–DV Fiber

657
00:15:37,973 --> 00:15:39,288
approached us

658
00:15:39,288 --> 00:15:40,671
asking if

659
00:15:40,671 --> 00:15:41,917
they could, uh, run

660
00:15:41,917 --> 00:15:42,816
their internet

661
00:15:42,816 --> 00:15:44,200
connection underground

662
00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,376
along North

663
00:15:45,376 --> 00:15:48,271
Pond. And it was

664
00:15:48,271 --> 00:15:49,370
a little controversial,

665
00:15:49,370 --> 00:15:50,437
but in the end we all

666
00:15:50,437 --> 00:15:51,567
agreed that they

667
00:15:51,567 --> 00:15:52,540
could, so they wouldn't have to

668
00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:53,481
cut down

669
00:15:53,481 --> 00:15:54,046
trees and

670
00:15:54,046 --> 00:15:55,270
put up poles

671
00:15:55,270 --> 00:15:57,244
. They could have just

672
00:15:57,244 --> 00:15:58,339
laid it

673
00:15:58,339 --> 00:15:59,571
underground. They actually

674
00:15:59,571 --> 00:16:00,773
had to install

675
00:16:00,773 --> 00:16:02,007
some poles across the

676
00:16:02,007 --> 00:16:03,724
ledge. They simply could

677
00:16:03,724 --> 00:16:05,488
n't get through.

678
00:16:05,488 --> 00:16:08,149
Yes. So, another thing

679
00:16:08,149 --> 00:16:09,538
we're working on

680
00:16:09,538 --> 00:16:11,498
is, uh, a

681
00:16:11,534 --> 00:16:12,959
facility use agreement related to the

682
00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:16,016
activities at Hogback.

683
00:16:16,016 --> 00:16:17,216
So, uh, we found out

684
00:16:17,216 --> 00:16:18,349
that our insurance,

685
00:16:18,349 --> 00:16:19,383
if something bad

686
00:16:19,383 --> 00:16:20,483
happens during the

687
00:16:20,483 --> 00:16:21,817
activity there, the city

688
00:16:21,817 --> 00:16:22,483
will be

689
00:16:22,483 --> 00:16:25,130
liable. Uh

690
00:16:25,130 --> 00:16:26,776
, and there

691
00:16:26,808 --> 00:16:27,960
's a slot in the facility use agreement for

692
00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,145
insurance, but they've

693
00:16:29,145 --> 00:16:30,396
always refused

694
00:16:30,396 --> 00:16:31,378
it.

695
00:16:31,378 --> 00:16:32,743
They always refused her.

696
00:16:32,743 --> 00:16:33,855
So we're working on

697
00:16:33,855 --> 00:16:34,721
who really

698
00:16:34,721 --> 00:16:35,462
should have

699
00:16:35,462 --> 00:16:36,806
insurance. For example,

700
00:16:36,806 --> 00:16:38,052
what activities,

701
00:16:38,052 --> 00:16:39,365
like one person

702
00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:40,644
walking around and counting birds

703
00:16:40,644 --> 00:16:41,465
, probably don't

704
00:16:41,465 --> 00:16:42,744
need insurance

705
00:16:42,744 --> 00:16:43,860
, but if you have 30

706
00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:45,010
people, you know,

707
00:16:45,010 --> 00:16:46,379
wielding chainsaws

708
00:16:46,379 --> 00:16:46,515
,

709
00:16:46,515 --> 00:16:47,636
no, just doing

710
00:16:47,636 --> 00:16:48,922
something active, you know,

711
00:16:48,922 --> 00:16:49,747
uh, that

712
00:16:49,747 --> 00:16:51,273
requires insurance. And

713
00:16:51,273 --> 00:16:52,254
then we also

714
00:16:52,254 --> 00:16:53,672
realized that the people on

715
00:16:53,672 --> 00:16:54,872
HBC and HMC8 actually

716
00:16:54,872 --> 00:16:55,599
go out and

717
00:16:55,599 --> 00:16:56,980
maintain the trails with

718
00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:57,998
chainsaws and

719
00:16:57,998 --> 00:16:59,234
heavy equipment, and

720
00:16:59,234 --> 00:17:00,434
they have to be

721
00:17:00,434 --> 00:17:01,779
insured for that

722
00:17:01,779 --> 00:17:05,588
time. So we're working with

723
00:17:05,588 --> 00:17:06,283
both of these

724
00:17:06,283 --> 00:17:07,291
committees to

725
00:17:07,291 --> 00:17:08,612
find, uh, affordable

726
00:17:08,612 --> 00:17:09,585
and equitable

727
00:17:09,585 --> 00:17:12,957
ways to do this.

728
00:17:12,957 --> 00:17:14,444
So those were disputes

729
00:17:14,444 --> 00:17:16,973
. We have ways of doing things.

730
00:17:16,973 --> 00:17:18,357
And that's actually, if I

731
00:17:18,357 --> 00:17:19,600
, uh, yeah, if people

732
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,737
remember that

733
00:17:20,737 --> 00:17:21,447
often people

734
00:17:21,447 --> 00:17:22,796
use our

735
00:17:22,796 --> 00:17:26,967
roads for bike races and

736
00:17:26,967 --> 00:17:27,815
so on, and it was always

737
00:17:27,815 --> 00:17:28,891
assumed that

738
00:17:28,891 --> 00:17:30,686
because it's a public road

739
00:17:30,719 --> 00:17:31,893
, it's a

740
00:17:31,893 --> 00:17:33,003
public road

741
00:17:33,003 --> 00:17:34,275
, but, uh

742
00:17:34,275 --> 00:17:35,450
, in the process we

743
00:17:35,450 --> 00:17:36,755
found out on the passive

744
00:17:36,755 --> 00:17:37,994
side that they needed, in

745
00:17:37,994 --> 00:17:39,202
other words,

746
00:17:39,202 --> 00:17:40,050
whoever sponsors

747
00:17:40,050 --> 00:17:41,192
the bike race has to

748
00:17:41,192 --> 00:17:42,464
have an insurance policy

749
00:17:42,464 --> 00:17:43,411
and make the city

750
00:17:43,411 --> 00:17:46,509
secondary to it. Uh

751
00:17:46,509 --> 00:17:47,567
, and this is something

752
00:17:47,567 --> 00:17:48,613
we've never

753
00:17:48,613 --> 00:17:50,464
done,

754
00:17:50,464 --> 00:17:51,463
. And I have a new

755
00:17:51,463 --> 00:17:52,425
bike race, people,

756
00:17:52,425 --> 00:17:53,676
the grandstand is over,

757
00:17:53,676 --> 00:17:54,927
but there's

758
00:17:54,927 --> 00:17:56,209
another guy coming next July,

759
00:17:56,209 --> 00:17:57,011
and I've already talked to them

760
00:17:57,011 --> 00:17:58,037
, and they

761
00:17:58,037 --> 00:17:58,999
said, "Oh, yeah,

762
00:17:58,999 --> 00:18:00,464
sure." No problem

763
00:18:00,464 --> 00:18:02,756
. Never, you know, so,

764
00:18:02,756 --> 00:18:04,147
um, it's interesting that when you

765
00:18:04,147 --> 00:18:05,218
look at one

766
00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:06,467
corner of what we

767
00:18:06,467 --> 00:18:07,751
did, you find

768
00:18:07,751 --> 00:18:09,036
all these things that we did

769
00:18:09,036 --> 00:18:11,328
n't do. So,

770
00:18:11,328 --> 00:18:12,536
fortunately, it didn't

771
00:18:12,536 --> 00:18:14,746
affect us." So, I

772
00:18:14,746 --> 00:18:15,787
guess you might have

773
00:18:15,787 --> 00:18:16,828
read about it in

774
00:18:16,828 --> 00:18:19,467
the comments, but, um, the

775
00:18:19,504 --> 00:18:20,917
Grunam County Sheriff's Department, um, what's

776
00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:23,244
their name?

777
00:18:23,244 --> 00:18:24,630
Mark Anderson is working

778
00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:25,483
on a pilot

779
00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:26,906
program related

780
00:18:26,906 --> 00:18:28,150
to, um, regional

781
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:29,501
policing, for example,

782
00:18:29,501 --> 00:18:33,348
so that instead of his people being

783
00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:34,568
hired by different cities

784
00:18:34,568 --> 00:18:35,692
for a certain amount of time, they would be

785
00:18:35,692 --> 00:18:36,784
stationed around

786
00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:37,972
those different cities so that

787
00:18:37,972 --> 00:18:38,903
they could be

788
00:18:38,903 --> 00:18:39,930
ready to respond

789
00:18:39,930 --> 00:18:40,508
faster and more

790
00:18:40,508 --> 00:18:42,997
effectively. And it's

791
00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:44,283
called, and K's

792
00:18:44,283 --> 00:18:45,451
volunteered to be

793
00:18:45,451 --> 00:18:48,190
our, um,

794
00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:49,192
representative on

795
00:18:49,192 --> 00:18:50,442
this committee. It's

796
00:18:50,442 --> 00:18:52,059
called the

797
00:18:53,881 --> 00:18:55,993
Windham County Law Enforcement Management Board. Uh, five

798
00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:57,523
cities, nine cities,

799
00:18:57,523 --> 00:18:59,067
WCGC.

800
00:18:59,067 --> 00:19:02,362
Yes, that's nine.

801
00:19:02,362 --> 00:19:03,730
of the 27 cities in

802
00:19:03,730 --> 00:19:04,688
Windham County

803
00:19:04,688 --> 00:19:05,817
are on

804
00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:06,912
this committee, and

805
00:19:06,912 --> 00:19:07,802
their job

806
00:19:07,802 --> 00:19:08,897
next year is

807
00:19:08,897 --> 00:19:10,094
to figure out what can be

808
00:19:10,094 --> 00:19:11,292
added, you know, what

809
00:19:11,292 --> 00:19:13,071
new services can the

810
00:19:13,105 --> 00:19:14,371
sheriff's department provide us,

811
00:19:14,371 --> 00:19:15,329
beyond just

812
00:19:15,329 --> 00:19:20,697
traffic enforcement. Is there a

813
00:19:20,697 --> 00:19:21,113
way to

814
00:19:21,113 --> 00:19:22,329
use this

815
00:19:22,329 --> 00:19:23,161
agency instead of the

816
00:19:23,161 --> 00:19:24,282
state police,

817
00:19:24,282 --> 00:19:25,146
which are often very

818
00:19:25,146 --> 00:19:26,234
slow and don't

819
00:19:26,234 --> 00:19:29,282
show up very well?

820
00:19:29,282 --> 00:19:30,371
So do you want

821
00:19:30,371 --> 00:19:31,620
to add anything about what

822
00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:32,649
we're working on?

823
00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:33,505
No, it's just

824
00:19:33,505 --> 00:19:34,717
beginning. We have had

825
00:19:34,717 --> 00:19:35,535
two or three

826
00:19:35,535 --> 00:19:36,556
meetings, and so far we are

827
00:19:36,556 --> 00:19:37,695
talking about developing a

828
00:19:37,695 --> 00:19:38,687
document that would

829
00:19:38,687 --> 00:19:39,621
regulate the work of

830
00:19:39,621 --> 00:19:40,760
this council, for example, a

831
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,726
charter. What we

832
00:19:41,726 --> 00:19:42,952
can expect and not

833
00:19:42,952 --> 00:19:43,963
expect from these

834
00:19:43,963 --> 00:19:45,128
meetings, so there's no

835
00:19:45,128 --> 00:19:46,261
specific report yet

836
00:19:46,261 --> 00:19:47,334
, but we're

837
00:19:47,334 --> 00:19:48,161
meeting

838
00:19:48,161 --> 00:19:48,866
every week now to

839
00:19:48,866 --> 00:19:49,663
try to

840
00:19:49,663 --> 00:19:50,827
figure it out so we

841
00:19:50,827 --> 00:19:51,899
can all have something to

842
00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:52,757
bring to

843
00:19:52,757 --> 00:19:53,952
the cities and see

844
00:19:53,952 --> 00:19:54,994
who would like to

845
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:56,235
participate. The idea is

846
00:19:56,235 --> 00:19:57,007
that without

847
00:19:57,007 --> 00:19:58,213
increasing the cost of what

848
00:19:58,213 --> 00:19:59,079
we already

849
00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:00,130
pay them, we can

850
00:20:00,130 --> 00:20:01,058
get more

851
00:20:01,058 --> 00:20:02,294
services.

852
00:20:02,294 --> 00:20:03,148
And in fact, from the

853
00:20:03,148 --> 00:20:04,396
initial figures

854
00:20:04,396 --> 00:20:05,677
you gave us, it

855
00:20:05,677 --> 00:20:06,827
may turn out to be

856
00:20:06,827 --> 00:20:08,108
cheaper for us than our

857
00:20:08,108 --> 00:20:10,280
current contract. That's exactly what

858
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,679
we think.

859
00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:12,547
Yes. And that

860
00:20:12,547 --> 00:20:13,795
by distributing this to

861
00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:14,604
communities and

862
00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:15,886
creating a system, rather

863
00:20:15,886 --> 00:20:16,493
than just

864
00:20:16,493 --> 00:20:17,775
calling us, we

865
00:20:17,775 --> 00:20:18,584
need, um,

866
00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:19,596
help so we

867
00:20:19,596 --> 00:20:20,608
can cut

868
00:20:20,608 --> 00:20:22,127
costs. So we'll

869
00:20:22,127 --> 00:20:23,362
find out more

870
00:20:23,362 --> 00:20:24,631
later. Two more

871
00:20:24,631 --> 00:20:25,969
items on my list of

872
00:20:25,969 --> 00:20:26,972
things on the table.

873
00:20:26,972 --> 00:20:27,860
The first one is four

874
00:20:27,860 --> 00:20:28,473
minutes.

875
00:20:28,473 --> 00:20:29,749
The first is, um, school,

876
00:20:29,749 --> 00:20:31,130
what to do with the school

877
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:32,397
building. There is a committee

878
00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:33,656
called "What to do

879
00:20:33,656 --> 00:20:34,947
with the school building."

880
00:20:35,047 --> 00:20:36,305
We haven't given it a

881
00:20:36,305 --> 00:20:37,582
name yet. Hmm, we had our

882
00:20:37,582 --> 00:20:38,603
first meeting at the

883
00:20:38,603 --> 00:20:39,888
next meeting.

884
00:20:39,888 --> 00:20:41,033
They will meet on the

885
00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:41,988
first

886
00:20:41,988 --> 00:20:43,210
Monday of every month. The

887
00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:44,420
first Monday of the

888
00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:45,758
month. First or

889
00:20:45,758 --> 00:20:47,170
Yes. First Monday

890
00:20:47,170 --> 00:20:49,127
, or first Wednesday. Hmm,

891
00:20:49,127 --> 00:20:50,405
and Dan MacArthur will be

892
00:20:50,405 --> 00:20:51,612
involved, as well as

893
00:20:51,612 --> 00:20:52,677
Kayla, who has

894
00:20:52,677 --> 00:20:57,887
been working at this school for a long time. And,

895
00:20:57,887 --> 00:20:59,398
um, one of the things that I

896
00:20:59,398 --> 00:21:00,682
suggested to them, and

897
00:21:00,682 --> 00:21:01,740
they were actually

898
00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:03,176
interested in, was, um,

899
00:21:03,176 --> 00:21:04,687
setting aside, um, a section

900
00:21:04,687 --> 00:21:05,896
that could become an

901
00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:09,706
urban emergency

902
00:21:09,706 --> 00:21:11,110
shelter for the night.

903
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:12,058
Yes. A place to stay in

904
00:21:12,058 --> 00:21:13,097
case

905
00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:14,258
Irene attacks again or

906
00:21:14,258 --> 00:21:15,551
something. And that will mean

907
00:21:15,551 --> 00:21:16,690
having a place where

908
00:21:16,690 --> 00:21:17,860
we can store a

909
00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:18,999
bunch of cribs, blankets,

910
00:21:18,999 --> 00:21:20,177
and pillows. They have a

911
00:21:20,177 --> 00:21:21,411
fully equipped

912
00:21:21,411 --> 00:21:22,345
kitchen. Hmm, you'd

913
00:21:22,345 --> 00:21:23,083
have to

914
00:21:23,083 --> 00:21:24,419
figure out, you know,

915
00:21:24,419 --> 00:21:26,563
generators or

916
00:21:26,598 --> 00:21:27,793
batteries, you know,

917
00:21:27,793 --> 00:21:29,129
but they're open to

918
00:21:29,129 --> 00:21:30,535
the idea, and that's something the

919
00:21:30,535 --> 00:21:32,288
city,

920
00:21:32,288 --> 00:21:33,414
um, was shying away from, not

921
00:21:33,414 --> 00:21:34,250
shying away from, but

922
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,850
working with

923
00:21:36,867 --> 00:21:40,529
emergency management. Hmm,

924
00:21:40,529 --> 00:21:41,787
you know, they gave us

925
00:21:41,787 --> 00:21:42,786
some permission to

926
00:21:42,786 --> 00:21:43,689
put a

927
00:21:43,689 --> 00:21:44,753
heating center here during

928
00:21:44,753 --> 00:21:46,011
daylight hours, but

929
00:21:46,011 --> 00:21:46,946
that doesn't really

930
00:21:46,946 --> 00:21:47,978
solve the problem of

931
00:21:47,978 --> 00:21:51,672
overnight accommodation.

932
00:21:51,672 --> 00:21:54,043
Good. So, last thing on

933
00:21:54,043 --> 00:21:55,441
my list, and then

934
00:21:55,441 --> 00:21:57,181
we have:

935
00:21:57,181 --> 00:21:57,656
Nick?

936
00:21:57,656 --> 00:21:58,564
Tomorrow or

937
00:21:58,564 --> 00:21:59,209
Tamara?

938
00:21:59,209 --> 00:22:00,365
Good.

939
00:22:00,365 --> 00:22:01,978
Tamara. Tamara and Nick.

940
00:22:01,978 --> 00:22:03,081
You have to say it with a New

941
00:22:03,081 --> 00:22:03,817
York

942
00:22:03,817 --> 00:22:06,622
accent. There's

943
00:22:06,622 --> 00:22:09,764
Long Island. So, the

944
00:22:09,764 --> 00:22:10,655
last thing on my

945
00:22:10,655 --> 00:22:11,607
list is that

946
00:22:11,607 --> 00:22:13,605
a few weeks ago,

947
00:22:13,636 --> 00:22:14,465
the administrator of the Marlboro

948
00:22:14,465 --> 00:22:15,233
Volunteer

949
00:22:15,233 --> 00:22:16,155
Fire Department approached us

950
00:22:16,155 --> 00:22:20,125
asking us

951
00:22:20,125 --> 00:22:21,061
to stop being a

952
00:22:21,061 --> 00:22:21,964
nonprofit

953
00:22:21,964 --> 00:22:22,967
and

954
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:24,238
become, uh,

955
00:22:24,238 --> 00:22:25,661
city-run. So we're

956
00:22:25,661 --> 00:22:26,520
trying

957
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,976
to figure out, uh, if there's

958
00:22:27,976 --> 00:22:29,432
another town in Vermont that's

959
00:22:29,432 --> 00:22:31,649
done this. So,

960
00:22:31,649 --> 00:22:33,244
uh, the fire department people

961
00:22:33,277 --> 00:22:34,407
consulted with

962
00:22:34,407 --> 00:22:35,736
this city, this is Berlin,

963
00:22:35,736 --> 00:22:39,008
Vermont. And it

964
00:22:39,008 --> 00:22:40,451
seems to me that the main

965
00:22:40,451 --> 00:22:41,858
change would be that, uh

966
00:22:41,858 --> 00:22:43,301
, the money that we often

967
00:22:43,301 --> 00:22:44,310
give to the fire

968
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:45,465
department would not be

969
00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:46,402
given to it

970
00:22:46,402 --> 00:22:47,959
upfront. It will

971
00:22:47,959 --> 00:22:48,863
simply be part of

972
00:22:48,863 --> 00:22:49,831
our city

973
00:22:49,831 --> 00:22:51,089
budget so that we can then

974
00:22:51,089 --> 00:22:53,049
pay for the expenses. Er

975
00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:54,461
, the same goes for

976
00:22:54,461 --> 00:22:55,379
equipment and

977
00:22:55,379 --> 00:22:56,896
upgrades. So

978
00:22:56,896 --> 00:22:58,005
two

979
00:22:58,005 --> 00:23:00,394
paid positions will be needed. Uh

980
00:23:00,394 --> 00:23:01,195
, these will be

981
00:23:01,195 --> 00:23:03,007
additional costs. Uh

982
00:23:03,007 --> 00:23:03,762
, one will be a

983
00:23:03,762 --> 00:23:04,550
professional

984
00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:05,647
administrator,

985
00:23:05,647 --> 00:23:06,984
maybe a

986
00:23:06,984 --> 00:23:08,355
fire chief, uh,

987
00:23:08,355 --> 00:23:09,624
part-

988
00:23:09,624 --> 00:23:10,687
time, and the other will be an

989
00:23:10,687 --> 00:23:11,406
assistant

990
00:23:11,406 --> 00:23:12,743
administrator who will

991
00:23:12,743 --> 00:23:13,701
help out,

992
00:23:13,701 --> 00:23:14,807
you know, 15 hours,

993
00:23:14,807 --> 00:23:17,326
you know, real part-

994
00:23:17,364 --> 00:23:18,122
time,

995
00:23:18,122 --> 00:23:19,315
keeping track of everything that

996
00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:19,879
needs to be

997
00:23:19,879 --> 00:23:20,940
kept track of without

998
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,591
volunteers. So, this is a

999
00:23:22,591 --> 00:23:23,465
pretty

1000
00:23:23,465 --> 00:23:24,881
important matter for us. Uh,

1001
00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:25,731
we're trying to

1002
00:23:25,731 --> 00:23:26,794
move slowly,

1003
00:23:26,794 --> 00:23:27,735
but they're really

1004
00:23:27,735 --> 00:23:28,828
interested in getting

1005
00:23:28,828 --> 00:23:29,982
it done

1006
00:23:29,982 --> 00:23:30,833
quickly because they're

1007
00:23:30,833 --> 00:23:32,281
exhausted. Uh, then

1008
00:23:32,281 --> 00:23:33,598
the last thing I want to

1009
00:23:33,598 --> 00:23:34,290
do is

1010
00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:35,213
go back to the

1011
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:36,102
energy

1012
00:23:36,102 --> 00:23:37,565
fair

1013
00:23:37,565 --> 00:23:39,093
and ask Tamara and

1014
00:23:39,093 --> 00:23:40,506
Nick about

1015
00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:41,462
their plans for

1016
00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:44,684
fun on October 24th.

1017
00:23:44,684 --> 00:23:45,259
Good.

1018
00:23:45,259 --> 00:23:47,068
So, yes. So we're here to, you

1019
00:23:47,068 --> 00:23:47,912
know,

1020
00:23:47,912 --> 00:23:48,792
continue to

1021
00:23:48,792 --> 00:23:51,233
invite people,

1022
00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:52,248
but should I

1023
00:23:52,248 --> 00:23:53,390
just do it from

1024
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:54,500
my seat, or

1025
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:55,099
should he...

1026
00:23:55,099 --> 00:23:56,014
So you want to

1027
00:23:56,014 --> 00:23:57,256
introduce yourself, because not

1028
00:23:57,256 --> 00:23:58,599
everyone might know you.

1029
00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:01,753
Oh, yes. Of course. I'm the

1030
00:24:01,753 --> 00:24:02,992
big sheriff...uh,

1031
00:24:02,992 --> 00:24:04,338
Donald Trump's son,

1032
00:24:04,338 --> 00:24:05,436
who might know...

1033
00:24:05,436 --> 00:24:06,747
just finished...my

1034
00:24:06,747 --> 00:24:08,093
doctorate

1035
00:24:08,093 --> 00:24:08,943
from Stanford...

1036
00:24:08,943 --> 00:24:10,218
moved here from San

1037
00:24:10,218 --> 00:24:17,421
Jose...this story...you're

1038
00:24:17,421 --> 00:24:18,824
Dr. Nick...Dr.

1039
00:24:18,824 --> 00:24:20,191
Yes, yes. Yes. Don't

1040
00:24:20,191 --> 00:24:21,216
call me

1041
00:24:21,216 --> 00:24:23,265
anything else. No. No. Uh, you're

1042
00:24:23,265 --> 00:24:24,530
applying for

1043
00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:26,322
academic positions.

1044
00:24:26,322 --> 00:24:26,952
Now the

1045
00:24:26,952 --> 00:24:28,097
academic job season

1046
00:24:28,097 --> 00:24:29,014
has begun, but

1047
00:24:29,014 --> 00:24:30,131
I still have some time...

1048
00:24:30,131 --> 00:24:31,190
And, uh, Tamara gave

1049
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:32,193
me this opportunity

1050
00:24:32,193 --> 00:24:33,195
to volunteer and

1051
00:24:33,195 --> 00:24:34,030
help. And I'm

1052
00:24:34,030 --> 00:24:35,235
starting to understand what's

1053
00:24:35,235 --> 00:24:36,617
happening. And thank you

1054
00:24:36,617 --> 00:24:40,238
for inviting me.

1055
00:24:40,238 --> 00:24:42,611
You know.

1056
00:24:42,611 --> 00:24:43,634
Yes. And he also

1057
00:24:43,634 --> 00:24:44,693
gets paid through a grant,

1058
00:24:44,693 --> 00:24:45,601
which is very nice.

1059
00:24:45,601 --> 00:24:46,737
This is true. This is not

1060
00:24:46,737 --> 00:24:48,191
volunteering. This is clearly

1061
00:24:48,191 --> 00:24:49,125
selfish. Uh

1062
00:24:49,125 --> 00:24:49,892
-huh. Uh

1063
00:24:49,892 --> 00:24:50,942
-huh.

1064
00:24:50,942 --> 00:24:53,607
Okay, continue.

1065
00:24:53,607 --> 00:24:54,663
Tell us how to

1066
00:24:54,663 --> 00:24:55,224
get an

1067
00:24:55,224 --> 00:24:56,511
energy committee

1068
00:24:56,511 --> 00:24:57,588
. That's why you

1069
00:24:57,588 --> 00:24:58,497
need us when

1070
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:00,339
the energy goes out. So,

1071
00:25:00,339 --> 00:25:02,131
yes. So, we're here to

1072
00:25:02,131 --> 00:25:04,619
talk about

1073
00:25:05,125 --> 00:25:06,373
doing something behind

1074
00:25:06,373 --> 00:25:06,723
you on October 24th.

1075
00:25:06,723 --> 00:25:07,771
This is the wind.

1076
00:25:07,771 --> 00:25:08,949
Oh, yes.

1077
00:25:08,949 --> 00:25:09,793
You will have to

1078
00:25:09,793 --> 00:25:10,698
wait until he

1079
00:25:10,698 --> 00:25:11,492
returns.

1080
00:25:11,492 --> 00:25:12,786
No. So, and also

1081
00:25:12,786 --> 00:25:13,757
thank you to Kate, who

1082
00:25:13,757 --> 00:25:14,911
did the work to

1083
00:25:14,911 --> 00:25:16,094
get the grant, you know

1084
00:25:16,094 --> 00:25:17,126
, to the energy

1085
00:25:17,126 --> 00:25:18,219
committee when Kate

1086
00:25:18,219 --> 00:25:19,190
was on the committee with

1087
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:20,857
us. Thank you very much. And

1088
00:25:20,857 --> 00:25:21,898
so, we

1089
00:25:21,898 --> 00:25:23,236
can use

1090
00:25:23,236 --> 00:25:24,500
this grant money

1091
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:25,801
to organize a big event to discuss community ideas

1092
00:25:25,801 --> 00:25:28,478
in this room on October 24th from 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM

1093
00:25:30,374 --> 00:25:31,673
. So, we're

1094
00:25:31,673 --> 00:25:33,071
looking at what Marbo

1095
00:25:33,071 --> 00:25:34,014
can do with

1096
00:25:34,014 --> 00:25:35,479
energy? And now we

1097
00:25:35,479 --> 00:25:36,758
live in a time when we

1098
00:25:36,758 --> 00:25:37,750
have so many

1099
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,494
opportunities. We have a

1100
00:25:39,494 --> 00:25:41,742
Marlo campus. We

1101
00:25:41,742 --> 00:25:43,643
lost him, which, um,

1102
00:25:43,643 --> 00:25:44,054
has

1103
00:25:44,054 --> 00:25:46,883
a lot of

1104
00:25:46,883 --> 00:25:47,690
movement, a lot of

1105
00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:48,953
possibilities, but what

1106
00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:50,371
will it be, right?

1107
00:25:50,371 --> 00:25:52,063
We have assets there.

1108
00:25:52,063 --> 00:25:53,157
We have, um, a school and a

1109
00:25:53,157 --> 00:25:54,484
school campus that

1110
00:25:54,484 --> 00:25:54,948
is currently an

1111
00:25:54,948 --> 00:25:55,943
unused,

1112
00:25:55,943 --> 00:25:56,607
more or less

1113
00:25:56,607 --> 00:25:57,568
unused

1114
00:25:57,568 --> 00:25:58,614
space. We

1115
00:25:58,614 --> 00:25:59,403
also have the

1116
00:25:59,403 --> 00:26:00,444
Ninth Highway asset that

1117
00:26:00,444 --> 00:26:01,391
runs right

1118
00:26:01,391 --> 00:26:02,470
through our city.

1119
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:03,276
If you think about it,

1120
00:26:03,276 --> 00:26:04,321
starting with our

1121
00:26:04,321 --> 00:26:04,948
village

1122
00:26:04,948 --> 00:26:06,023
deli, you know,

1123
00:26:06,023 --> 00:26:07,008
every weekend there's

1124
00:26:07,008 --> 00:26:08,143
police directing traffic

1125
00:26:08,143 --> 00:26:09,307
while everyone tries to

1126
00:26:09,307 --> 00:26:10,559
get a sandwich. What

1127
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:11,838
if we had a

1128
00:26:11,838 --> 00:26:12,953
sandwich place here,

1129
00:26:12,953 --> 00:26:14,306
right? Hundreds of thousands of

1130
00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:15,425
people walk along

1131
00:26:15,425 --> 00:26:16,417
this corridor every day to

1132
00:26:16,417 --> 00:26:17,536
their

1133
00:26:17,536 --> 00:26:18,527
vacation homes, who

1134
00:26:18,527 --> 00:26:19,487
need to buy

1135
00:26:19,487 --> 00:26:20,062
groceries,

1136
00:26:20,062 --> 00:26:21,324
get settled, right?

1137
00:26:21,324 --> 00:26:22,568
We have ski

1138
00:26:22,568 --> 00:26:23,875
slopes. This is the gateway to

1139
00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:24,911
Vermont. Well, we

1140
00:26:24,911 --> 00:26:25,969
could be the first

1141
00:26:25,969 --> 00:26:26,846
stop at this

1142
00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:28,065
gateway to Vermont.

1143
00:26:28,065 --> 00:26:29,206
So how do we get

1144
00:26:29,206 --> 00:26:30,516
people to stop, right

1145
00:26:30,516 --> 00:26:31,574
? How do we attract

1146
00:26:31,574 --> 00:26:32,748
people to Marlboro and

1147
00:26:32,748 --> 00:26:33,890
keep Marblehead as a

1148
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:35,095
separate identity

1149
00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:36,176
and not a bedroom for

1150
00:26:36,176 --> 00:26:37,594
Brattleboro, right?

1151
00:26:37,594 --> 00:26:38,969
Here's what we're looking at

1152
00:26:38,969 --> 00:26:40,851
. And the last time such an idea

1153
00:26:40,851 --> 00:26:42,690
was implemented was in

1154
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:45,210
2010. And we had

1155
00:26:45,244 --> 00:26:46,098
representatives from

1156
00:26:46,098 --> 00:26:47,430
rural Vermont come to us,

1157
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:48,591
and they had, well,

1158
00:26:48,591 --> 00:26:49,548
several, you know,

1159
00:26:49,548 --> 00:26:50,880
day-long, well, conversations where

1160
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,007
all the community members

1161
00:26:52,007 --> 00:26:53,168
came up with ideas of what

1162
00:26:53,168 --> 00:26:54,227
could be done

1163
00:26:54,227 --> 00:26:55,925
based on this. We

1164
00:26:55,925 --> 00:26:57,230
came up with the idea for this

1165
00:26:57,230 --> 00:26:58,508
space, didn't we?

1166
00:26:58,508 --> 00:26:59,710
Because it used to

1167
00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:00,800
be just, well,

1168
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,726
services every Sunday

1169
00:27:03,726 --> 00:27:05,329
in the summer, right? And we

1170
00:27:05,329 --> 00:27:06,261
came up with the idea of

1171
00:27:06,261 --> 00:27:07,492
making this space

1172
00:27:07,492 --> 00:27:08,790
bigger in the library

1173
00:27:08,790 --> 00:27:10,586
and cafe. We came up with the

1174
00:27:10,586 --> 00:27:12,107
energy committee

1175
00:27:12,107 --> 00:27:13,666
, which emerged from

1176
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:16,334
planning sessions in 2010.

1177
00:27:16,334 --> 00:27:17,542
And we came up with the idea of

1178
00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:18,617
expanding our

1179
00:27:18,617 --> 00:27:19,691
trails, which eventually

1180
00:27:19,691 --> 00:27:20,766
turned into

1181
00:27:20,766 --> 00:27:21,977
ski slopes. So we

1182
00:27:21,977 --> 00:27:23,042
can

1183
00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:24,015
do a lot when we all

1184
00:27:24,015 --> 00:27:24,896
come together and

1185
00:27:24,896 --> 00:27:26,112
think about what

1186
00:27:26,112 --> 00:27:27,220
we have. And that's what we

1187
00:27:27,220 --> 00:27:28,486
do. As we were just

1188
00:27:28,486 --> 00:27:29,669
talking about, you know,

1189
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:31,021
so

1190
00:27:31,021 --> 00:27:33,087
many things have happened since then.

1191
00:27:33,087 --> 00:27:34,557
Solar energy valuation is

1192
00:27:34,557 --> 00:27:35,499
probably what's

1193
00:27:35,499 --> 00:27:37,874
happening.

1194
00:27:37,874 --> 00:27:38,516
Forward.

1195
00:27:38,516 --> 00:27:40,093
OK. So, yes. We

1196
00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:40,829
just want to

1197
00:27:40,829 --> 00:27:41,791
create a place where

1198
00:27:41,791 --> 00:27:42,414
people can

1199
00:27:42,414 --> 00:27:43,150
bring all the

1200
00:27:43,150 --> 00:27:44,112
projects

1201
00:27:44,112 --> 00:27:45,215
they've been working on, the ideas they have

1202
00:27:45,215 --> 00:27:47,299
. The main thing

1203
00:27:47,326 --> 00:27:48,362
Nick will work on is information and

1204
00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:49,425
educational work

1205
00:27:49,425 --> 00:27:50,213
. So we want to

1206
00:27:50,213 --> 00:27:51,217
call different

1207
00:27:51,217 --> 00:27:51,957
representatives,

1208
00:27:51,957 --> 00:27:53,014
call, you know,

1209
00:27:53,014 --> 00:27:54,045
rural Vermont,

1210
00:27:54,045 --> 00:27:54,996
call those

1211
00:27:54,996 --> 00:27:56,034
who have money, right?

1212
00:27:56,034 --> 00:27:57,386
Who has projects? What is

1213
00:27:57,386 --> 00:27:58,440
happening?

1214
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,819
Invite them to be here

1215
00:27:59,819 --> 00:28:00,708
. So while we're

1216
00:28:00,708 --> 00:28:01,530
generating and

1217
00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:02,900
coming up with new ideas,

1218
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,065
we also have people

1219
00:28:04,065 --> 00:28:05,367
who can say, "

1220
00:28:05,367 --> 00:28:06,531
I can help with

1221
00:28:06,531 --> 00:28:07,867
this," or "There's money here

1222
00:28:07,867 --> 00:28:09,100
," or "Sure, this

1223
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,436
fits into the XYZ project

1224
00:28:10,436 --> 00:28:11,847
we're starting."

1225
00:28:11,847 --> 00:28:13,142
Because, um, yeah,

1226
00:28:13,142 --> 00:28:14,438
because I think we have

1227
00:28:14,438 --> 00:28:15,563
a lot that we

1228
00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:16,824
can do, and that

1229
00:28:16,824 --> 00:28:18,188
we've done over the last

1230
00:28:18,188 --> 00:28:19,484
15 years, and now is the

1231
00:28:19,484 --> 00:28:20,745
time to bring it all

1232
00:28:20,745 --> 00:28:21,884
together. OK.

1233
00:28:21,884 --> 00:28:24,073
So, that's our goal. Hmm,

1234
00:28:24,073 --> 00:28:24,953
our request

1235
00:28:24,953 --> 00:28:26,138
is that

1236
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:27,290
people participate,

1237
00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:28,610
that people come, and

1238
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:29,626
that you bring

1239
00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:30,676
two or three

1240
00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:32,558
other guests with you.

1241
00:28:32,558 --> 00:28:33,893
Solar energy.

1242
00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:34,679
Switch to

1243
00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:35,688
solar energy.

1244
00:28:35,688 --> 00:28:36,478
Switch to

1245
00:28:36,478 --> 00:28:37,873
solar energy. Yes.

1246
00:28:37,873 --> 00:28:38,861
Well, you know, like, a

1247
00:28:38,861 --> 00:28:39,949
mustard field has

1248
00:28:39,949 --> 00:28:41,169
more than enough

1249
00:28:41,169 --> 00:28:42,488
space to house an

1250
00:28:42,488 --> 00:28:43,543
entire battery that

1251
00:28:43,543 --> 00:28:44,334
can, you know,

1252
00:28:44,334 --> 00:28:45,455
serve

1253
00:28:45,455 --> 00:28:46,511
our entire community,

1254
00:28:46,511 --> 00:28:48,814
right? And the city has

1255
00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:49,401
half of the

1256
00:28:49,401 --> 00:28:50,784
roadside garage

1257
00:28:50,784 --> 00:28:52,097
on solar power,

1258
00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:53,479
and we wanted to spend

1259
00:28:53,479 --> 00:28:54,723
some of that money on,

1260
00:28:54,723 --> 00:28:55,552
um, ARPA, but we

1261
00:28:55,552 --> 00:28:56,935
spend it on other

1262
00:28:56,935 --> 00:28:58,179
things before we

1263
00:28:58,179 --> 00:28:59,457
get to that, but that

1264
00:28:59,457 --> 00:29:00,770
could be upgraded

1265
00:29:00,770 --> 00:29:03,161
and doubled,

1266
00:29:03,161 --> 00:29:04,695
which would reduce the cost

1267
00:29:04,695 --> 00:29:07,129
, um, for the city.

1268
00:29:07,129 --> 00:29:08,872
What is ARCA?

1269
00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:10,083
ARPA was, um,

1270
00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:12,277
American.

1271
00:29:12,277 --> 00:29:15,139
It was the IRA.

1272
00:29:15,139 --> 00:29:16,557
Recording is in progress. But

1273
00:29:16,557 --> 00:29:17,633
we had, you know,

1274
00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:18,847
over $300,000

1275
00:29:18,847 --> 00:29:20,200
to allocate to things

1276
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,102
that would

1277
00:29:21,102 --> 00:29:22,104
benefit the city.

1278
00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,387
Hmm. And it's spent.

1279
00:29:24,387 --> 00:29:24,961
Good.

1280
00:29:24,961 --> 00:29:26,333
Yes. I don't feel like

1281
00:29:26,333 --> 00:29:27,461
saying this, just

1282
00:29:27,461 --> 00:29:28,463
for people online,

1283
00:29:28,463 --> 00:29:29,309
if you can

1284
00:29:29,309 --> 00:29:31,043
give a quick

1285
00:29:31,043 --> 00:29:31,858
summary, a

1286
00:29:31,858 --> 00:29:32,960
summary, because they have

1287
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,451
n't heard it.

1288
00:29:34,451 --> 00:29:36,013
Absolutely. Yes. So,

1289
00:29:36,013 --> 00:29:37,489
about the Olympics, do you want

1290
00:29:37,489 --> 00:29:39,183
to join?

1291
00:29:39,183 --> 00:29:40,619
Uh, I-I'm worried I

1292
00:29:40,619 --> 00:29:42,725
won't do everything right.

1293
00:29:42,725 --> 00:29:45,749
Hmm, okay. I think it's

1294
00:29:45,749 --> 00:29:46,696
, uh, so feel

1295
00:29:46,696 --> 00:29:48,098
free to correct

1296
00:29:48,098 --> 00:29:49,394
me for any

1297
00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:50,796
mistakes I make, but it looks like

1298
00:29:50,796 --> 00:29:52,058
we're trying to, uh, have

1299
00:29:52,058 --> 00:29:53,144
some kind of

1300
00:29:53,144 --> 00:29:54,511
community,

1301
00:29:54,511 --> 00:29:55,422
uh, event or

1302
00:29:55,422 --> 00:29:56,649
coordinate ideas,

1303
00:29:56,649 --> 00:29:57,770
resources, and people

1304
00:29:57,770 --> 00:29:58,752
interested in

1305
00:29:58,752 --> 00:29:59,663
energy and

1306
00:29:59,663 --> 00:30:00,539
energy

1307
00:30:00,539 --> 00:30:02,547
systems in Marrow. This is

1308
00:30:02,547 --> 00:30:03,632
modeled after

1309
00:30:03,632 --> 00:30:04,789
, uh, a very

1310
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:06,235
successful community

1311
00:30:06,235 --> 00:30:06,885
service and

1312
00:30:06,885 --> 00:30:08,187
organizing event that we

1313
00:30:08,187 --> 00:30:09,726
did in 2010. Yes

1314
00:30:09,726 --> 00:30:10,891
, it, uh, led to

1315
00:30:10,891 --> 00:30:12,120
things like ski

1316
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,687
slopes or the

1317
00:30:12,687 --> 00:30:13,948
community center where

1318
00:30:13,948 --> 00:30:17,617
we are now.

1319
00:30:17,617 --> 00:30:18,688
Uh, thematic and

1320
00:30:18,688 --> 00:30:19,500
focused

1321
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:20,280
mostly on

1322
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,222
energy, but

1323
00:30:21,222 --> 00:30:22,391
willing to consider

1324
00:30:22,391 --> 00:30:26,374
it in a broader sense. Uh

1325
00:30:26,374 --> 00:30:27,444
,

1326
00:30:27,444 --> 00:30:28,383
a lot of work has been done on

1327
00:30:28,383 --> 00:30:29,647
thinking about solar

1328
00:30:29,647 --> 00:30:31,554
energy. My dad

1329
00:30:31,554 --> 00:30:32,719
remembers that, uh, they did some

1330
00:30:32,719 --> 00:30:33,723
work

1331
00:30:33,723 --> 00:30:34,467
trying

1332
00:30:34,467 --> 00:30:35,730
to figure out, like, the

1333
00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:36,863
total

1334
00:30:36,863 --> 00:30:38,127
energy demand of Marrow. What

1335
00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:39,244
type of solar panel will

1336
00:30:39,244 --> 00:30:40,333
you need to

1337
00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:41,493
accommodate all of this?

1338
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:43,066
Uh, are there any places where

1339
00:30:43,096 --> 00:30:44,145
charging

1340
00:30:44,145 --> 00:30:44,786
stations for

1341
00:30:44,786 --> 00:30:49,022
electric cars could be installed? Hmm,

1342
00:30:49,022 --> 00:30:50,162
anyway, it's

1343
00:30:50,162 --> 00:30:51,227
been a decade and a half of

1344
00:30:51,227 --> 00:30:52,406
, uh,

1345
00:30:52,406 --> 00:30:53,850
lots of ideas, and trying to, uh

1346
00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:55,219
, get these ideas out

1347
00:30:55,219 --> 00:30:56,474
to the public,

1348
00:30:56,474 --> 00:30:57,880
figure out what's behind the

1349
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,401
most energy,

1350
00:30:59,401 --> 00:31:00,884
and especially, uh, the names of

1351
00:31:00,884 --> 00:31:02,405
people and organizations

1352
00:31:02,405 --> 00:31:03,203
that could

1353
00:31:03,203 --> 00:31:04,686
support it, uh, both

1354
00:31:04,686 --> 00:31:06,169
organizationally and,

1355
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:09,746
uh, financially.

1356
00:31:09,746 --> 00:31:10,592
Right. Did I

1357
00:31:10,592 --> 00:31:11,491
miss it?

1358
00:31:11,491 --> 00:31:13,198
Yes, that was good.

1359
00:31:13,198 --> 00:31:15,539
So, on October 24th, the date is

1360
00:31:15,539 --> 00:31:17,700
2 to 4, we will have

1361
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,745
BCTV here. We will have food here.

1362
00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:20,938
We will have childcare

1363
00:31:20,938 --> 00:31:22,758
. So we want to

1364
00:31:22,758 --> 00:31:23,760
make it so that

1365
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,728
everyone can

1366
00:31:24,728 --> 00:31:25,930
participate, and so, right now

1367
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:26,731
our main

1368
00:31:26,731 --> 00:31:27,833
request is—you know,

1369
00:31:27,833 --> 00:31:28,868
bring a friend,

1370
00:31:28,868 --> 00:31:29,802
bring two

1371
00:31:29,802 --> 00:31:32,276
friends. Uh, yeah,

1372
00:31:32,276 --> 00:31:33,526
because it's a chance to implement

1373
00:31:33,526 --> 00:31:34,886
a lot of ideas, a lot of,

1374
00:31:34,886 --> 00:31:35,915
you know, something

1375
00:31:35,915 --> 00:31:37,349
like what Nick was saying

1376
00:31:37,349 --> 00:31:38,745
, a lot of projects have

1377
00:31:38,745 --> 00:31:40,059
come up, right?

1378
00:31:40,059 --> 00:31:41,171
But we don't all know about them

1379
00:31:41,171 --> 00:31:42,343
, and they haven't been

1380
00:31:42,343 --> 00:31:43,339
implemented,

1381
00:31:43,339 --> 00:31:44,622
right? And times have changed,

1382
00:31:44,622 --> 00:31:45,356
and we have

1383
00:31:45,356 --> 00:31:46,273
many more

1384
00:31:46,273 --> 00:31:47,578
assets now. So, we have

1385
00:31:47,578 --> 00:31:48,713
Marble College,

1386
00:31:48,713 --> 00:31:49,881
which gives us a lot of

1387
00:31:49,881 --> 00:31:51,823
opportunities. We have

1388
00:31:51,823 --> 00:31:53,121
school buildings,

1389
00:31:53,121 --> 00:31:54,034
yes, which are now

1390
00:31:54,034 --> 00:31:55,563
open. This gives us

1391
00:31:55,563 --> 00:31:57,026
opportunities. And we have

1392
00:31:57,026 --> 00:31:58,491
Route 9. This is what I was

1393
00:31:58,491 --> 00:32:00,139
talking about when the

1394
00:32:00,176 --> 00:32:01,567
power went out. But,

1395
00:32:01,567 --> 00:32:02,537
you know, we have this

1396
00:32:02,537 --> 00:32:03,678
big corridor, so

1397
00:32:03,678 --> 00:32:04,791
there's a lot of opportunity

1398
00:32:04,791 --> 00:32:05,647
for businesses to

1399
00:32:05,647 --> 00:32:06,760
bring new people

1400
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,815
into the community to

1401
00:32:07,815 --> 00:32:08,643
stop by for a bite to

1402
00:32:08,643 --> 00:32:09,856
eat, right?

1403
00:32:09,856 --> 00:32:11,195
Instead of, um,

1404
00:32:11,195 --> 00:32:12,500
Vermont Country Deli blocking

1405
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:13,874
all the roads, why do

1406
00:32:13,874 --> 00:32:15,179
n't we invite them all

1407
00:32:15,179 --> 00:32:16,586
here? We have a building

1408
00:32:16,586 --> 00:32:17,893
owned by the campus

1409
00:32:17,893 --> 00:32:18,890
that they're willing to

1410
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:20,094
provide, you know, for a

1411
00:32:20,094 --> 00:32:20,919
restaurant or a

1412
00:32:20,919 --> 00:32:21,882
co-op out

1413
00:32:21,882 --> 00:32:24,131
west, right? Why

1414
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:26,019
can't the Brattleboro Food Co-op

1415
00:32:26,019 --> 00:32:27,112
expand, ahem, and

1416
00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:28,007
serve the

1417
00:32:28,007 --> 00:32:29,349
community? And also where

1418
00:32:29,349 --> 00:32:30,603
we are,

1419
00:32:30,603 --> 00:32:31,891
we have Hogback Mountain and

1420
00:32:31,891 --> 00:32:33,271
we have Wilmington. So there

1421
00:32:33,271 --> 00:32:34,584
are two communities we

1422
00:32:34,584 --> 00:32:35,604
can serve. The

1423
00:32:35,604 --> 00:32:36,629
Brattleboro community, the

1424
00:32:36,629 --> 00:32:37,711
Wilmington community,

1425
00:32:37,711 --> 00:32:38,820
three communities, because

1426
00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:39,707
we have a

1427
00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:40,869
recreation community, right? And we

1428
00:32:40,869 --> 00:32:41,675
are the gateway to

1429
00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:42,978
Vermont. So how do we

1430
00:32:42,978 --> 00:32:43,874
get people

1431
00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:45,359
to stop, right? So,

1432
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:46,669
that's one part. And

1433
00:32:46,669 --> 00:32:48,143
the other part is how do we

1434
00:32:48,174 --> 00:32:49,126
make better use of

1435
00:32:49,126 --> 00:32:50,324
the resources we have,

1436
00:32:50,324 --> 00:32:51,528
right? So, looking

1437
00:32:51,528 --> 00:32:52,755
at the space that we

1438
00:32:52,755 --> 00:32:53,952
have, the solar energy,

1439
00:32:53,952 --> 00:32:54,995
and the campus, like

1440
00:32:54,995 --> 00:32:56,590
during our board meeting

1441
00:32:56,621 --> 00:32:57,786
on Thursday,

1442
00:32:57,786 --> 00:32:58,891
we talked about all the

1443
00:32:58,891 --> 00:32:59,995
opportunities on campus

1444
00:32:59,995 --> 00:33:00,854
and how we

1445
00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:02,081
can offer

1446
00:33:02,081 --> 00:33:03,001
more educational

1447
00:33:03,001 --> 00:33:04,248
programs. You know why

1448
00:33:04,248 --> 00:33:05,263
we can't become a

1449
00:33:05,263 --> 00:33:06,069
technology

1450
00:33:06,069 --> 00:33:07,155
hub on campus?

1451
00:33:07,155 --> 00:33:08,101
My son was in

1452
00:33:08,101 --> 00:33:08,964
high school and

1453
00:33:08,964 --> 00:33:09,826
had to go to

1454
00:33:09,826 --> 00:33:10,522
Amherst to

1455
00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:11,607
attend a

1456
00:33:11,607 --> 00:33:12,609
programming academy because there isn't one in

1457
00:33:12,609 --> 00:33:13,444
Vermont

1458
00:33:13,444 --> 00:33:14,662
. But why

1459
00:33:14,662 --> 00:33:16,285
can't Malgo become a

1460
00:33:16,315 --> 00:33:17,540
programming academy now? So,

1461
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:18,762
you know, that's what we're

1462
00:33:18,762 --> 00:33:19,796
looking for: to engage

1463
00:33:19,796 --> 00:33:21,049
people in conversations,

1464
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:21,895
to engage them in

1465
00:33:21,895 --> 00:33:23,085
coming up with ideas, and

1466
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:24,276
then to connect those

1467
00:33:24,276 --> 00:33:25,661
ideas to action. So that's why

1468
00:33:25,661 --> 00:33:26,852
we want

1469
00:33:26,852 --> 00:33:28,075
people who know

1470
00:33:28,075 --> 00:33:28,976
where the

1471
00:33:28,976 --> 00:33:30,264
resources are and who work with

1472
00:33:30,264 --> 00:33:31,390
planning to be

1473
00:33:31,390 --> 00:33:35,750
here with us as well. The

1474
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:37,083
Energy Committee

1475
00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:38,383
has a lot of energy and

1476
00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:39,616
it will be contagious and

1477
00:33:39,616 --> 00:33:40,749
we will all do our

1478
00:33:40,749 --> 00:33:41,516
best to

1479
00:33:41,516 --> 00:33:42,849
show up and bring

1480
00:33:42,849 --> 00:33:44,182
our own markers, paper

1481
00:33:44,182 --> 00:33:48,047
and stuff. We will have

1482
00:33:48,047 --> 00:33:50,630
markers and paper. And

1483
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:51,691
then, once we have

1484
00:33:51,691 --> 00:33:52,784
the ideas ready, we'll

1485
00:33:52,784 --> 00:33:53,876
continue to keep

1486
00:33:53,876 --> 00:33:55,059
them in the lobby here for

1487
00:33:55,059 --> 00:33:56,091
a few more weeks so that

1488
00:33:56,091 --> 00:33:56,910
other people who

1489
00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:57,942
may not have been able to

1490
00:33:57,942 --> 00:33:59,095
attend

1491
00:33:59,095 --> 00:34:00,278
can still participate

1492
00:34:00,278 --> 00:34:01,437
. And we'll also have an

1493
00:34:01,437 --> 00:34:02,558
online element so that

1494
00:34:02,558 --> 00:34:03,649
we really get

1495
00:34:03,649 --> 00:34:04,209
full, um,

1496
00:34:04,209 --> 00:34:05,393
engagement because

1497
00:34:05,393 --> 00:34:06,359
so many new

1498
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:07,449
people have moved into

1499
00:34:07,449 --> 00:34:08,404
our community.

1500
00:34:08,404 --> 00:34:10,082
Yes? So, the whole community

1501
00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:11,249
has changed a lot, and that's what

1502
00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:12,739
we really want to

1503
00:34:12,772 --> 00:34:13,808
celebrate and

1504
00:34:13,808 --> 00:34:15,548
unite.

1505
00:34:15,548 --> 00:34:16,841
Yes. There's another idea

1506
00:34:16,841 --> 00:34:17,838
that just occurred to me

1507
00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:19,524
, because I

1508
00:34:19,524 --> 00:34:20,575
do

1509
00:34:20,575 --> 00:34:21,388
zoning work as an

1510
00:34:21,388 --> 00:34:22,710
acting

1511
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:24,065
zoning officer, and I

1512
00:34:24,065 --> 00:34:25,150
know that there are four,

1513
00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:26,031
five, or six

1514
00:34:26,031 --> 00:34:27,183
potential new

1515
00:34:27,183 --> 00:34:28,572
homes, like on AI. You

1516
00:34:28,572 --> 00:34:30,753
can see where

1517
00:34:30,787 --> 00:34:32,276
driveways, etc. have been made. Maybe

1518
00:34:32,276 --> 00:34:33,569
we could develop

1519
00:34:33,569 --> 00:34:34,692
some, um,

1520
00:34:34,692 --> 00:34:35,883
energy-efficient

1521
00:34:35,883 --> 00:34:36,937
building rules that

1522
00:34:36,937 --> 00:34:38,298
could be passed on to

1523
00:34:38,298 --> 00:34:40,213
potential, sorry,

1524
00:34:40,213 --> 00:34:41,464
builders so

1525
00:34:41,464 --> 00:34:42,752
people know they don't

1526
00:34:42,752 --> 00:34:43,968
have to build a

1527
00:34:43,968 --> 00:34:45,149
4,000

1528
00:34:45,149 --> 00:34:46,596
square foot house. So

1529
00:34:46,596 --> 00:34:47,233
they can

1530
00:34:47,233 --> 00:34:48,275
build a

1531
00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:49,404
1,400 square

1532
00:34:49,404 --> 00:34:50,475
foot house and they can

1533
00:34:50,475 --> 00:34:51,488
use, I

1534
00:34:51,488 --> 00:34:52,415
mean, I don't

1535
00:34:52,415 --> 00:34:53,515
know if you knew about the

1536
00:34:53,515 --> 00:34:54,826
house on Town Hill.

1537
00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:55,962
Max and, uh, Iris

1538
00:34:55,962 --> 00:34:57,136
just built an

1539
00:34:57,136 --> 00:34:58,236
extremely, um,

1540
00:34:58,236 --> 00:34:59,446
energy-efficient

1541
00:34:59,446 --> 00:35:00,583
house with new

1542
00:35:00,583 --> 00:35:01,684
technology, with, you

1543
00:35:01,684 --> 00:35:03,004
know, cement and

1544
00:35:03,004 --> 00:35:04,361
insulation, cement

1545
00:35:04,361 --> 00:35:05,314
and windows that

1546
00:35:05,314 --> 00:35:06,231
face, uh,

1547
00:35:06,231 --> 00:35:07,698
mostly south,

1548
00:35:07,698 --> 00:35:09,911
I think. And, um, it might

1549
00:35:09,911 --> 00:35:11,061
be helpful if

1550
00:35:11,061 --> 00:35:11,923
someone came along and

1551
00:35:11,923 --> 00:35:12,977
looked into these

1552
00:35:12,977 --> 00:35:14,063
things to put together

1553
00:35:14,063 --> 00:35:14,926
something like a

1554
00:35:14,926 --> 00:35:16,108
guide on how

1555
00:35:16,108 --> 00:35:17,130
you can build a

1556
00:35:17,130 --> 00:35:18,344
house or how you can

1557
00:35:18,344 --> 00:35:19,493
remodel your

1558
00:35:19,493 --> 00:35:20,846
house.

1559
00:35:20,846 --> 00:35:21,341
Yes.

1560
00:35:21,341 --> 00:35:22,220
Uh, one thing I

1561
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:23,311
remember, it was

1562
00:35:23,311 --> 00:35:24,438
actually many

1563
00:35:24,438 --> 00:35:25,846
years ago when I lived

1564
00:35:25,846 --> 00:35:27,178
in Manchester Center. Uh

1565
00:35:27,178 --> 00:35:29,941
-huh. Um, they

1566
00:35:29,941 --> 00:35:31,269
built a house, and it

1567
00:35:31,269 --> 00:35:32,246
had these

1568
00:35:32,246 --> 00:35:36,161
blinds

1569
00:35:36,161 --> 00:35:37,061
that, when the sun

1570
00:35:37,061 --> 00:35:37,769
came in,

1571
00:35:37,769 --> 00:35:38,734
would open up to

1572
00:35:38,734 --> 00:35:39,989
full power for

1573
00:35:39,989 --> 00:35:40,600
solar

1574
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,565
radiation,

1575
00:35:41,565 --> 00:35:42,852
you know, for passive

1576
00:35:42,852 --> 00:35:43,464
solar

1577
00:35:43,464 --> 00:35:46,256
radiation. And

1578
00:35:46,256 --> 00:35:47,353
then, when

1579
00:35:47,353 --> 00:35:48,142
the temperature

1580
00:35:48,142 --> 00:35:49,170
cooled at night, the

1581
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:50,794
blinds would close. Yes, yes

1582
00:35:50,794 --> 00:35:53,039
. And it was really

1583
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:54,501
cool, you know, and

1584
00:35:54,501 --> 00:35:55,625
they kept

1585
00:35:55,625 --> 00:35:56,750
the heat in, you know, and

1586
00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:58,137
of course you had

1587
00:35:58,137 --> 00:35:59,806
insulation, all that stuff.

1588
00:35:59,806 --> 00:36:01,271
But I don't know if it's like

1589
00:36:01,271 --> 00:36:02,736
old technology, but

1590
00:36:02,736 --> 00:36:04,092
30 years ago it was

1591
00:36:04,092 --> 00:36:06,099
very new.

1592
00:36:06,099 --> 00:36:07,362
Yes. For example, those

1593
00:36:07,362 --> 00:36:08,292
wonderful blankets,

1594
00:36:08,292 --> 00:36:09,512
window coverings, and

1595
00:36:09,512 --> 00:36:11,138
more. And do you know what that is

1596
00:36:11,138 --> 00:36:11,775
?

1597
00:36:11,775 --> 00:36:12,158
Yes.

1598
00:36:12,158 --> 00:36:13,098
I wonder if there's

1599
00:36:13,098 --> 00:36:14,220
anyone here who

1600
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:15,282
makes them? Is

1601
00:36:15,282 --> 00:36:16,257
n't there someone in town

1602
00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,325
who makes them? And

1603
00:36:17,325 --> 00:36:18,221
we did this whole

1604
00:36:18,221 --> 00:36:19,267
project with a

1605
00:36:19,292 --> 00:36:20,263
nonprofit in

1606
00:36:20,263 --> 00:36:21,159
Maine, you know, where they

1607
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:21,806
come in and

1608
00:36:21,806 --> 00:36:22,802
measure your windows

1609
00:36:22,802 --> 00:36:23,798
and then they make,

1610
00:36:23,798 --> 00:36:25,153
um, inserts.

1611
00:36:25,153 --> 00:36:26,515
double-sided inserts.

1612
00:36:26,515 --> 00:36:27,374
We did it, and the

1613
00:36:27,374 --> 00:36:28,559
energy committee

1614
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:29,742
took it to court. What about

1615
00:36:29,742 --> 00:36:30,962
last year? I

1616
00:36:30,962 --> 00:36:32,407
think we had this a

1617
00:36:32,407 --> 00:36:33,648
year earlier.

1618
00:36:33,648 --> 00:36:35,446
Yes. Peggy, Peggy

1619
00:36:35,446 --> 00:36:40,871
just had a comment

1620
00:36:40,871 --> 00:36:42,074
that, um, you need to

1621
00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,458
include in everything that you

1622
00:36:43,458 --> 00:36:44,406
do, is, um, a

1623
00:36:44,406 --> 00:36:45,863
reflection of how

1624
00:36:45,863 --> 00:36:47,321
all of this can help

1625
00:36:47,321 --> 00:36:48,523
low-income

1626
00:36:48,523 --> 00:36:49,908
seniors,

1627
00:36:49,908 --> 00:36:52,533
and so, is there a

1628
00:36:52,533 --> 00:36:53,456
grant that they

1629
00:36:53,456 --> 00:36:54,318
can, you know, in

1630
00:36:54,318 --> 00:36:55,211
other words,

1631
00:36:55,211 --> 00:36:55,796
help

1632
00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:56,812
low-income

1633
00:36:56,812 --> 00:36:57,981
seniors,

1634
00:36:57,981 --> 00:36:58,400
um,

1635
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,625
no, it was a question of

1636
00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,700
how we're doing, how are the

1637
00:37:02,313 --> 00:37:03,538
low-income plans working in

1638
00:37:03,538 --> 00:37:04,559
Marlborough and also the

1639
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:05,852
seniors,

1640
00:37:05,852 --> 00:37:07,111
because those are two different

1641
00:37:07,111 --> 00:37:08,260
categories.

1642
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,489
Good. Sorry.

1643
00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:11,710
Yes. And that's what you

1644
00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:12,743
know, so we

1645
00:37:12,743 --> 00:37:13,844
need everyone to come

1646
00:37:13,844 --> 00:37:15,153
together at the table

1647
00:37:15,153 --> 00:37:16,392
so we can hear

1648
00:37:16,392 --> 00:37:17,528
those voices and also

1649
00:37:17,528 --> 00:37:18,837
have ideas because that's what

1650
00:37:18,837 --> 00:37:20,007
we're

1651
00:37:20,007 --> 00:37:20,833
thinking about with

1652
00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:22,180
transportation as well. How do people

1653
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:23,431
move? We're

1654
00:37:23,431 --> 00:37:24,475
just talking about

1655
00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:25,574
, you know, do we have,

1656
00:37:25,574 --> 00:37:26,618
you know, a community

1657
00:37:26,618 --> 00:37:27,746
car that people

1658
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:28,620
can borrow,

1659
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:29,409
you know, during

1660
00:37:29,409 --> 00:37:30,340
mud season, or,

1661
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:31,383
you know, we do

1662
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:32,313
n't have a truck

1663
00:37:32,313 --> 00:37:33,216
that stops

1664
00:37:33,216 --> 00:37:34,386
by the school anymore. Yes, they

1665
00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:35,338
actually just

1666
00:37:35,338 --> 00:37:36,052
wanted to

1667
00:37:36,052 --> 00:37:37,046
let you do it

1668
00:37:37,046 --> 00:37:37,788
on demand again.

1669
00:37:37,788 --> 00:37:38,888
Yes, Mover, you can

1670
00:37:38,888 --> 00:37:39,872
call

1671
00:37:39,872 --> 00:37:40,928
Mover. Good.

1672
00:37:40,928 --> 00:37:41,973
And they have

1673
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:43,179
something similar to

1674
00:37:43,179 --> 00:37:44,261
what Marvel Alliance does,

1675
00:37:44,261 --> 00:37:45,406
but what's nice about Mover,

1676
00:37:45,406 --> 00:37:46,427
if anyone ever

1677
00:37:46,427 --> 00:37:47,478
wants to do that, is that

1678
00:37:47,478 --> 00:37:48,468
they

1679
00:37:48,468 --> 00:37:49,675
pay for your mileage

1680
00:37:49,675 --> 00:37:49,888
.

1681
00:37:49,888 --> 00:37:50,877
Good.

1682
00:37:50,877 --> 00:37:52,012
For the fact that you are driving,

1683
00:37:52,012 --> 00:37:53,939
picking someone up and

1684
00:37:53,974 --> 00:37:56,569
taking them somewhere, etc. So,

1685
00:37:56,569 --> 00:37:57,978
um, you know they're

1686
00:37:57,978 --> 00:37:59,415
connected to this.

1687
00:37:59,415 --> 00:38:00,884
Good. Something like

1688
00:38:00,884 --> 00:38:02,165
Uber for transportation.

1689
00:38:02,165 --> 00:38:03,590
Yes. Movie with Uber.

1690
00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:05,153
That's good.

1691
00:38:05,153 --> 00:38:05,862
But it's more

1692
00:38:05,862 --> 00:38:06,756
planned than

1693
00:38:06,756 --> 00:38:08,029
just making a phone call.

1694
00:38:08,029 --> 00:38:09,133
But, and if there were

1695
00:38:09,133 --> 00:38:10,146
more stores here,

1696
00:38:10,146 --> 00:38:10,760
like a

1697
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,957
grocery store, it would be

1698
00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:13,185
a lot

1699
00:38:13,185 --> 00:38:14,290
easier for people to buy food,

1700
00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:15,551
right? Because it

1701
00:38:15,551 --> 00:38:16,709
will be closer. They won't

1702
00:38:16,709 --> 00:38:17,888
have to go all the way

1703
00:38:17,888 --> 00:38:19,188
to the city. And, you know, it would

1704
00:38:19,188 --> 00:38:20,268
also be a way to

1705
00:38:20,268 --> 00:38:21,199
bring in people from

1706
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:22,279
Wellington who do

1707
00:38:22,279 --> 00:38:22,999
n't have a lot of

1708
00:38:22,999 --> 00:38:24,020
options, you know,

1709
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:24,860
for co-op style food

1710
00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:26,210
. But yes,

1711
00:38:26,210 --> 00:38:27,515
but I think yes, it's

1712
00:38:27,515 --> 00:38:28,931
important to consider

1713
00:38:28,931 --> 00:38:30,084
all of that. And I also

1714
00:38:30,084 --> 00:38:30,898
thought, when you

1715
00:38:30,898 --> 00:38:32,151
were talking about building,

1716
00:38:32,151 --> 00:38:33,310
that there are people in our community

1717
00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:34,500
who are working with,

1718
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:35,565
um, new styles of

1719
00:38:35,565 --> 00:38:36,771
building. Yes.

1720
00:38:36,771 --> 00:38:38,312
Right. People on, hmm

1721
00:38:38,312 --> 00:38:39,622
, what is this? Not on High

1722
00:38:39,622 --> 00:38:40,590
Hill. This is, um, on

1723
00:38:40,590 --> 00:38:41,716
Bear Road.

1724
00:38:41,716 --> 00:38:42,501
Yes.

1725
00:38:42,501 --> 00:38:43,603
They have a location downtown

1726
00:38:43,603 --> 00:38:44,031
.

1727
00:38:44,031 --> 00:38:44,395
Yes.

1728
00:38:44,395 --> 00:38:44,825
Um, where they're

1729
00:38:44,825 --> 00:38:45,600
pushing, you know,

1730
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,021
these new

1731
00:38:47,581 --> 00:38:48,378
plug-and-play building models

1732
00:38:48,378 --> 00:38:48,938
that are actually

1733
00:38:48,938 --> 00:38:49,469
designed

1734
00:38:49,469 --> 00:38:50,002
for new

1735
00:38:50,002 --> 00:38:50,935
construction and for

1736
00:38:50,935 --> 00:38:51,756
retrofits.

1737
00:38:51,756 --> 00:38:52,130
Yes.

1738
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,171
I mean, because

1739
00:38:53,171 --> 00:38:54,097
reconstruction

1740
00:38:54,097 --> 00:38:55,353
will save people. I

1741
00:38:55,353 --> 00:38:56,461
mean, my house is a

1742
00:38:56,461 --> 00:38:57,608
perfect example.

1743
00:38:57,608 --> 00:38:58,814
He's like Swiss

1744
00:38:58,814 --> 00:39:01,603
cheese. And, you know, it would be

1745
00:39:01,603 --> 00:39:02,877
good to figure out what

1746
00:39:02,877 --> 00:39:03,911
steps we could

1747
00:39:03,911 --> 00:39:05,082
take to

1748
00:39:05,082 --> 00:39:07,171
simplify this a little bit.

1749
00:39:07,171 --> 00:39:08,931
Yes.

1750
00:39:08,931 --> 00:39:10,595
And I'll just say one thing

1751
00:39:10,595 --> 00:39:12,218
that we're doing with the rest of the

1752
00:39:12,218 --> 00:39:14,921
MERP,

1753
00:39:14,921 --> 00:39:16,311
um, mini-mini, is that

1754
00:39:16,311 --> 00:39:17,741
the city is going to

1755
00:39:17,741 --> 00:39:19,711
buy two, um,

1756
00:39:19,749 --> 00:39:22,020
Flur infrared readers. Emm.

1757
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:23,265
Portable. And they

1758
00:39:23,265 --> 00:39:24,442
will be stored in the

1759
00:39:24,442 --> 00:39:24,894
city

1760
00:39:24,894 --> 00:39:26,978
administration. Someone

1761
00:39:26,978 --> 00:39:28,260
can come in, sign

1762
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:29,254
it, and in the winter they

1763
00:39:29,254 --> 00:39:30,248
can stand

1764
00:39:30,248 --> 00:39:31,402
outside and see

1765
00:39:31,402 --> 00:39:32,363
where

1766
00:39:32,363 --> 00:39:33,293
the heat from their

1767
00:39:33,293 --> 00:39:35,001
house is coming from. And in the summer

1768
00:39:35,001 --> 00:39:35,973
they can stand

1769
00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:36,638
inside and

1770
00:39:36,638 --> 00:39:37,499
see where

1771
00:39:37,499 --> 00:39:38,470
the heat is coming into

1772
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:39,469
their house from,

1773
00:39:39,469 --> 00:39:39,902
right?

1774
00:39:39,902 --> 00:39:41,389
Um, you know, it's just,

1775
00:39:41,389 --> 00:39:42,915
you know, infrared,

1776
00:39:42,915 --> 00:39:44,347
and it's pretty cool.

1777
00:39:44,347 --> 00:39:45,560
We also, didn't we

1778
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,639
buy a drainage

1779
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:47,718
pump that can be

1780
00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:48,392
written out?

1781
00:39:48,392 --> 00:39:51,126
Um, not yet.

1782
00:39:51,126 --> 00:39:52,393
Yes, it is included in

1783
00:39:52,393 --> 00:39:53,037
the budget.

1784
00:39:53,037 --> 00:39:54,292
Good. So the fire

1785
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,279
department asked

1786
00:39:55,279 --> 00:39:56,019
the city to buy a

1787
00:39:56,019 --> 00:39:57,253
drain pump that

1788
00:39:57,253 --> 00:39:58,217
could be written off,

1789
00:39:58,217 --> 00:39:59,669
right? Yes. So if your

1790
00:39:59,669 --> 00:40:00,767
basement is flooded,

1791
00:40:00,767 --> 00:40:01,513
you didn't have to

1792
00:40:01,513 --> 00:40:02,183
buy your

1793
00:40:02,183 --> 00:40:03,116
own. You could

1794
00:40:03,116 --> 00:40:04,149
just ask and

1795
00:40:04,149 --> 00:40:04,975
borrow it.

1796
00:40:04,975 --> 00:40:05,360
Yes.

1797
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,085
Hmm, that's cool. Okay,

1798
00:40:07,085 --> 00:40:08,815
great. Well, we started.

1799
00:40:08,815 --> 00:40:09,700
We had fun on

1800
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:10,242
Thursday, we

1801
00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:11,384
had fun on Saturday,

1802
00:40:11,384 --> 00:40:12,498
and we will have fun

1803
00:40:12,498 --> 00:40:13,457
in October.

1804
00:40:13,457 --> 00:40:14,691
We can do what

1805
00:40:14,691 --> 00:40:15,419
we're just

1806
00:40:15,419 --> 00:40:16,590
going to do,

1807
00:40:16,590 --> 00:40:17,825
which is connect Tamara

1808
00:40:17,825 --> 00:40:19,027
to the city grid and

1809
00:40:19,027 --> 00:40:20,199
just let her

1810
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,075
energy flow. Well,

1811
00:40:23,075 --> 00:40:24,299
something we could

1812
00:40:24,299 --> 00:40:25,055
do is a

1813
00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:26,506
library, right? This is

1814
00:40:26,506 --> 00:40:27,829
something we put together in

1815
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:29,353
Brattleboro. Oh, yes.

1816
00:40:29,353 --> 00:40:30,276
It was, you know, I

1817
00:40:30,276 --> 00:40:31,412
needed a blender. What

1818
00:40:31,412 --> 00:40:31,835
if I

1819
00:40:31,835 --> 00:40:32,375
needed a

1820
00:40:32,375 --> 00:40:33,258
juicer? What

1821
00:40:33,258 --> 00:40:33,706
if I

1822
00:40:33,706 --> 00:40:34,278
needed a

1823
00:40:34,278 --> 00:40:35,301
bread maker? You know,

1824
00:40:35,301 --> 00:40:36,359
just tools,

1825
00:40:36,359 --> 00:40:36,660
right?

1826
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:37,848
Snowshoes. I saw

1827
00:40:37,848 --> 00:40:38,590
someone

1828
00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:39,174
returning

1829
00:40:39,174 --> 00:40:39,758
snowshoes to

1830
00:40:39,758 --> 00:40:41,060
the library last year. I thought

1831
00:40:41,060 --> 00:40:41,461
: what?

1832
00:40:41,461 --> 00:40:42,776
Yes. Yes. They also have

1833
00:40:42,776 --> 00:40:43,798
electric bikes. And

1834
00:40:43,798 --> 00:40:44,695
electric bikes are

1835
00:40:44,695 --> 00:40:45,485
great. Yes.

1836
00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:46,327
You know, you can take an

1837
00:40:46,327 --> 00:40:47,169
electric bike and

1838
00:40:47,169 --> 00:40:47,731
go anywhere you

1839
00:40:47,731 --> 00:40:48,229
want.

1840
00:40:48,229 --> 00:40:49,343
So, yes. So how

1841
00:40:49,343 --> 00:40:50,308
can we bring

1842
00:40:50,308 --> 00:40:51,348
some of these resources here?

1843
00:40:51,348 --> 00:40:52,634
Perfectly. Well,

1844
00:40:52,634 --> 00:40:54,414
thank you very much for coming. And

1845
00:40:54,414 --> 00:40:55,725
now we'll move on to the

1846
00:40:55,725 --> 00:40:57,003
divisions, which, uh, has

1847
00:40:57,003 --> 00:40:57,757
anyone had a

1848
00:40:57,757 --> 00:40:58,610
chance to

1849
00:40:58,610 --> 00:41:05,739
review them? There's

1850
00:41:05,739 --> 00:41:07,359
, uh, Nick did this

1851
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:09,115
wonderful thing.

1852
00:41:09,115 --> 00:41:10,786
There is such a thing as a

1853
00:41:10,823 --> 00:41:12,397
unit.

1854
00:41:12,397 --> 00:41:14,493
No. Yes, this is a long thing.

1855
00:41:14,493 --> 00:41:15,594
Sorry. May I

1856
00:41:15,594 --> 00:41:16,996
know your name?

1857
00:41:16,996 --> 00:41:21,693
Donald. Oh, you are him.

1858
00:41:21,693 --> 00:41:23,262
Sorry. I know your

1859
00:41:23,262 --> 00:41:24,574
face. I just

1860
00:41:24,574 --> 00:41:25,737
missed the name.

1861
00:41:25,737 --> 00:41:27,098
So, Nick did this

1862
00:41:27,098 --> 00:41:28,401
thing. I don't know if it's

1863
00:41:28,401 --> 00:41:29,302
published or if

1864
00:41:29,302 --> 00:41:30,406
we can make it

1865
00:41:30,406 --> 00:41:31,162
available for

1866
00:41:31,162 --> 00:41:31,976
comparison between the

1867
00:41:31,976 --> 00:41:32,761
old and new

1868
00:41:32,761 --> 00:41:33,588
units.

1869
00:41:33,588 --> 00:41:35,306
Oh, yes. I mean, would

1870
00:41:35,306 --> 00:41:36,715
you rather I bring this

1871
00:41:36,715 --> 00:41:39,052
up, or a subsection

1872
00:41:39,052 --> 00:41:39,902
with actual

1873
00:41:39,902 --> 00:41:40,623
rules? Does

1874
00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:41,795
anyone else want one?

1875
00:41:41,795 --> 00:41:43,163
I think that would be more

1876
00:41:43,163 --> 00:41:43,966
useful.

1877
00:41:43,966 --> 00:41:45,373
Oh, thank you.

1878
00:41:45,373 --> 00:41:46,750
I'll take a few. This is

1879
00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:47,920
a comparison of something

1880
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,995
you printed out.

1881
00:41:48,995 --> 00:41:50,182
Yes,

1882
00:41:50,182 --> 00:41:51,908
I...

1883
00:41:51,908 --> 00:41:53,202
You were going to...

1884
00:41:53,202 --> 00:41:54,238
Okay. So,

1885
00:41:54,238 --> 00:41:55,057
let me

1886
00:41:55,057 --> 00:41:56,350
find this. Wait a

1887
00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:56,975
second.

1888
00:41:56,975 --> 00:41:58,810
Thank you for coming.

1889
00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:00,546
I could...

1890
00:42:00,546 --> 00:42:02,120
Oh, you...you were involved

1891
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,772
in this.

1892
00:42:02,772 --> 00:42:04,121
Yes. Yes. I was very

1893
00:42:04,121 --> 00:42:05,344
involved in this. I

1894
00:42:05,344 --> 00:42:06,150
can tell you a little bit

1895
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:06,877
. Do

1896
00:42:06,877 --> 00:42:07,997
you want to give us an

1897
00:42:07,997 --> 00:42:09,821
introduction?

1898
00:42:09,821 --> 00:42:11,091
What we...the old patterns of

1899
00:42:11,091 --> 00:42:11,826
division were

1900
00:42:11,826 --> 00:42:12,595
mostly

1901
00:42:12,595 --> 00:42:15,250
formulaic. They were

1902
00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:16,429
probably taken from

1903
00:42:16,429 --> 00:42:17,393
cities much

1904
00:42:17,393 --> 00:42:19,703
larger than Marlborough.

1905
00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:20,802
So our task

1906
00:42:20,802 --> 00:42:25,637
was twofold. One

1907
00:42:25,637 --> 00:42:26,771
was to

1908
00:42:26,771 --> 00:42:27,845
make it more

1909
00:42:27,845 --> 00:42:28,765
relevant to

1910
00:42:28,765 --> 00:42:29,839
this city, and the other was to

1911
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:30,575
make it

1912
00:42:30,575 --> 00:42:31,433
legible and

1913
00:42:31,433 --> 00:42:38,776
understandable. And to that

1914
00:42:38,776 --> 00:42:43,286
end, we...we created

1915
00:42:43,286 --> 00:42:44,575
a chart that gives you

1916
00:42:44,575 --> 00:42:45,467
kind of a

1917
00:42:45,467 --> 00:42:46,161
step-by-step

1918
00:42:46,161 --> 00:42:47,450
guide on

1919
00:42:47,450 --> 00:42:51,546
page six...anytime

1920
00:42:51,546 --> 00:42:52,621
you need to

1921
00:42:52,621 --> 00:42:53,696
do any

1922
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:54,739
division, small or

1923
00:42:54,739 --> 00:42:56,010
large, it gives you a

1924
00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:56,923
flowchart that

1925
00:42:56,923 --> 00:42:57,640
shows you the

1926
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,647
step-by-step process.

1927
00:42:59,647 --> 00:43:00,922
Of course.

1928
00:43:00,922 --> 00:43:01,623
Um,

1929
00:43:01,623 --> 00:43:04,545
that's good. So our

1930
00:43:04,545 --> 00:43:05,901
goal was to make it

1931
00:43:05,901 --> 00:43:06,783
clear and

1932
00:43:06,783 --> 00:43:07,935
simple, and also

1933
00:43:07,935 --> 00:43:09,224
align it with how the

1934
00:43:09,224 --> 00:43:10,173
city actually

1935
00:43:10,173 --> 00:43:14,289
functions. Hmm, the

1936
00:43:14,324 --> 00:43:15,683
zoning administrator is a key

1937
00:43:15,683 --> 00:43:16,833
person because they are the

1938
00:43:16,833 --> 00:43:18,122
first person

1939
00:43:18,122 --> 00:43:19,377
you talk to to

1940
00:43:19,377 --> 00:43:20,667
figure out whether

1941
00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:21,677
you are doing a minor or

1942
00:43:21,677 --> 00:43:24,257
major subdivision. And if

1943
00:43:24,257 --> 00:43:25,403
it's minor, very

1944
00:43:25,403 --> 00:43:26,683
often it can go through a

1945
00:43:26,683 --> 00:43:27,626
fairly simple

1946
00:43:27,626 --> 00:43:29,458
process. For example,

1947
00:43:29,458 --> 00:43:30,924
adjusting boundaries.

1948
00:43:30,924 --> 00:43:32,355
Wait. I've already

1949
00:43:32,355 --> 00:43:35,079
reached this point.

1950
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:36,458
And then, um, we also

1951
00:43:36,458 --> 00:43:37,763
simplified it a little bit

1952
00:43:37,763 --> 00:43:40,031
for everyone. We used to have a

1953
00:43:40,031 --> 00:43:41,193
restriction that

1954
00:43:41,193 --> 00:43:42,451
said anything

1955
00:43:42,451 --> 00:43:43,387
more than three

1956
00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:44,417
plots. If you

1957
00:43:44,417 --> 00:43:45,593
divide your plot

1958
00:43:45,593 --> 00:43:46,801
into more than three, that

1959
00:43:46,801 --> 00:43:48,073
automatically meant a

1960
00:43:48,073 --> 00:43:49,318
large television.

1961
00:43:49,318 --> 00:43:50,406
We increased that to

1962
00:43:50,406 --> 00:43:51,675
four. You can

1963
00:43:51,675 --> 00:43:52,539
have four. Did

1964
00:43:52,539 --> 00:43:53,932
you mean that?

1965
00:43:53,932 --> 00:43:54,850
Yes. Hmm.

1966
00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:56,089
You can have four

1967
00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:56,883
before you

1968
00:43:56,883 --> 00:43:58,027
have to go

1969
00:43:58,027 --> 00:43:58,758
to five to

1970
00:43:58,758 --> 00:43:59,902
trigger the

1971
00:43:59,902 --> 00:44:02,501
grand division view.

1972
00:44:02,501 --> 00:44:03,941
It's in the right column. Is

1973
00:44:03,941 --> 00:44:05,258
it all at once, or

1974
00:44:05,258 --> 00:44:06,465
can you do it

1975
00:44:06,465 --> 00:44:07,636
over a

1976
00:44:07,636 --> 00:44:08,725
period of time?

1977
00:44:08,725 --> 00:44:10,057
You have that all of this should

1978
00:44:10,057 --> 00:44:11,642
be within 5 years.

1979
00:44:11,642 --> 00:44:12,484
Good.

1980
00:44:12,484 --> 00:44:13,252
Maximum

1981
00:44:13,252 --> 00:44:14,522
number for 5

1982
00:44:14,522 --> 00:44:15,404
years. This has not

1983
00:44:15,404 --> 00:44:18,472
changed. Another thing

1984
00:44:18,472 --> 00:44:19,892
that we've implemented that's

1985
00:44:19,892 --> 00:44:21,348
new is that,

1986
00:44:21,348 --> 00:44:23,141
uh, we have something called a

1987
00:44:23,178 --> 00:44:24,411
conservation

1988
00:44:24,411 --> 00:44:27,962
unit.

1989
00:44:27,962 --> 00:44:29,233
Most of the city is now

1990
00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:30,472
zoned for 2 acres per

1991
00:44:30,472 --> 00:44:34,913
residential building.

1992
00:44:34,913 --> 00:44:35,776
And we, uh, through the

1993
00:44:35,776 --> 00:44:36,832
conservation

1994
00:44:36,832 --> 00:44:37,632
unit, we

1995
00:44:37,632 --> 00:44:38,879
modeled a lot of

1996
00:44:38,879 --> 00:44:40,127
this after

1997
00:44:40,127 --> 00:44:41,311
how Bradborough did

1998
00:44:41,311 --> 00:44:42,526
most of what

1999
00:44:42,526 --> 00:44:43,742
Brad is now, which is the

2000
00:44:43,742 --> 00:44:44,798
conservation

2001
00:44:44,798 --> 00:44:48,809
unit. And this

2002
00:44:48,809 --> 00:44:50,415
process says that

2003
00:44:50,415 --> 00:44:51,933
if you allocate 50% of

2004
00:44:51,933 --> 00:44:56,961
your land, uh, you

2005
00:44:56,961 --> 00:44:58,172
can build the

2006
00:44:58,172 --> 00:44:59,277
same number of

2007
00:44:59,277 --> 00:45:00,417
apartments as you did, uh,

2008
00:45:00,417 --> 00:45:02,661
before, but it doesn't have to

2009
00:45:02,697 --> 00:45:03,730
be two large

2010
00:45:03,730 --> 00:45:04,947
plots.

2011
00:45:04,947 --> 00:45:06,049
You can build on

2012
00:45:06,049 --> 00:45:06,930
much smaller

2013
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:08,074
plots. You can

2014
00:45:08,074 --> 00:45:09,248
group houses

2015
00:45:09,248 --> 00:45:10,168
together, much

2016
00:45:10,168 --> 00:45:11,469
cheaper to build,

2017
00:45:11,469 --> 00:45:12,985
uh, and much, uh, more

2018
00:45:12,985 --> 00:45:14,111
environmentally friendly,

2019
00:45:14,111 --> 00:45:16,352
of course. Uh, this is a

2020
00:45:16,352 --> 00:45:17,703
section, I think it's in

2021
00:45:17,703 --> 00:45:19,091
chapter three, that

2022
00:45:19,091 --> 00:45:20,114
talks about the

2023
00:45:20,114 --> 00:45:21,137
conservation process

2024
00:45:21,137 --> 00:45:24,930
.

2025
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,039
Chapter three.

2026
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:27,141
The

2027
00:45:27,141 --> 00:45:27,735
third one,

2028
00:45:27,735 --> 00:45:29,841
which starts, uh,

2029
00:45:29,841 --> 00:45:32,327
at 13, I think.

2030
00:45:32,327 --> 00:45:34,648
Yes.

2031
00:45:34,648 --> 00:45:36,912
And could you

2032
00:45:36,944 --> 00:45:38,124
just give your

2033
00:45:38,124 --> 00:45:39,208
name again for the transcript so it can be

2034
00:45:39,208 --> 00:45:41,884
recorded.

2035
00:45:41,884 --> 00:45:43,481
D. Sherin.

2036
00:45:43,481 --> 00:45:49,637
Thank you. And the printout

2037
00:45:49,637 --> 00:45:50,483
doesn't actually

2038
00:45:50,483 --> 00:45:51,540
show up,

2039
00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:52,809
perhaps in your PDF

2040
00:45:52,809 --> 00:45:56,774
file. Uh, if you

2041
00:45:56,774 --> 00:45:57,659
look at

2042
00:45:57,659 --> 00:45:59,021
the examples, you'll see

2043
00:45:59,021 --> 00:46:00,213
examples shown with

2044
00:46:00,213 --> 00:46:00,927
little

2045
00:46:00,927 --> 00:46:02,765
illustrations. If you

2046
00:46:02,765 --> 00:46:04,126
scroll down,

2047
00:46:04,126 --> 00:46:05,346
um, okay, look

2048
00:46:05,346 --> 00:46:06,411
at the screen and tell

2049
00:46:06,411 --> 00:46:07,099
me when I

2050
00:46:07,099 --> 00:46:08,569
got close. I'll let you

2051
00:46:08,569 --> 00:46:09,130
know.

2052
00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:10,728
Is this it? Is this it?

2053
00:46:10,728 --> 00:46:11,507
Yes.

2054
00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:12,109
Good.

2055
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:13,945
This page. It will be,

2056
00:46:13,945 --> 00:46:16,823
um,

2057
00:46:16,823 --> 00:46:19,965
3.10. That's it. Yes.

2058
00:46:19,965 --> 00:46:22,092
Good. Let's start.

2059
00:46:22,092 --> 00:46:28,285
So, this is an example. Um,

2060
00:46:28,285 --> 00:46:29,521
each major subdivision

2061
00:46:29,521 --> 00:46:30,857
will have, in addition to what

2062
00:46:30,857 --> 00:46:32,127
we normally do with

2063
00:46:32,127 --> 00:46:32,929
the survey, an

2064
00:46:32,929 --> 00:46:33,931
additional

2065
00:46:33,931 --> 00:46:35,234
environmental review map

2066
00:46:35,234 --> 00:46:36,570
that will highlight any

2067
00:46:36,570 --> 00:46:37,773
environmentally sensitive

2068
00:46:37,773 --> 00:46:42,625
areas. Those areas where

2069
00:46:42,625 --> 00:46:43,749
you

2070
00:46:43,749 --> 00:46:45,860
can't build anyway.

2071
00:46:45,860 --> 00:46:47,154
So, you will subtract those

2072
00:46:47,154 --> 00:46:48,282
areas that you

2073
00:46:48,282 --> 00:46:49,544
cannot build on to

2074
00:46:49,544 --> 00:46:50,871
determine how much you

2075
00:46:50,871 --> 00:46:52,239
can build on.

2076
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,058
So in this

2077
00:46:53,058 --> 00:46:54,389
example there were 50 acres

2078
00:46:54,389 --> 00:46:55,243
, 20 acres were

2079
00:46:55,243 --> 00:46:56,335
undeveloped

2080
00:46:56,335 --> 00:46:57,653
. 30 acres

2081
00:46:57,653 --> 00:46:58,929
divided by two will

2082
00:46:58,929 --> 00:47:02,807
give you 15 apartments.

2083
00:47:02,807 --> 00:47:03,890
Thanks to the division into

2084
00:47:03,890 --> 00:47:04,851
conservation

2085
00:47:04,851 --> 00:47:05,656
areas, you can

2086
00:47:05,656 --> 00:47:06,647
create a plot of land the

2087
00:47:06,647 --> 00:47:07,700
size of an acre, right

2088
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,422
? Er, 3/4 acre.

2089
00:47:10,422 --> 00:47:11,508
The main thing is that you

2090
00:47:11,508 --> 00:47:12,793
have enough land

2091
00:47:12,793 --> 00:47:13,946
to develop, that

2092
00:47:13,946 --> 00:47:14,473
you have a

2093
00:47:14,473 --> 00:47:15,296
functioning

2094
00:47:15,296 --> 00:47:17,854
septic system.

2095
00:47:17,854 --> 00:47:19,058
If you go to the

2096
00:47:19,058 --> 00:47:20,263
next page, I

2097
00:47:20,263 --> 00:47:21,404
think it shows an

2098
00:47:21,404 --> 00:47:22,355
example of several

2099
00:47:22,355 --> 00:47:23,343
smaller sections.

2100
00:47:23,343 --> 00:47:24,259
So can you

2101
00:47:24,259 --> 00:47:25,145
do something

2102
00:47:25,145 --> 00:47:26,368
like condominiums

2103
00:47:26,368 --> 00:47:26,621
and,

2104
00:47:26,621 --> 00:47:27,132
um,

2105
00:47:27,132 --> 00:47:29,454
residential clusters?

2106
00:47:29,454 --> 00:47:33,392
We, as we, uh, have been doing,

2107
00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:34,470
as we're just

2108
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:35,640
developing the

2109
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,842
subdivision rules, we're suggesting

2110
00:47:36,842 --> 00:47:38,043
that the next step

2111
00:47:38,043 --> 00:47:38,813
for the

2112
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:39,737
planning commission is to

2113
00:47:39,737 --> 00:47:42,386
review the zoning,

2114
00:47:42,386 --> 00:47:43,057
and we're going to

2115
00:47:43,057 --> 00:47:43,792
strongly

2116
00:47:43,792 --> 00:47:44,942
encourage the permitting

2117
00:47:44,942 --> 00:47:46,093
of apartment

2118
00:47:46,093 --> 00:47:49,599
buildings.

2119
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:50,730
I think that now it is

2120
00:47:50,730 --> 00:47:52,008
possible to build two

2121
00:47:52,008 --> 00:47:52,473
families. Uh

2122
00:47:52,473 --> 00:47:54,542
-huh. But we believe

2123
00:47:54,542 --> 00:47:55,466
we should be

2124
00:47:55,466 --> 00:47:56,606
more lenient

2125
00:47:56,606 --> 00:47:57,808
when it comes

2126
00:47:57,808 --> 00:47:59,035
to this,

2127
00:47:59,035 --> 00:47:59,875
especially when it comes to

2128
00:47:59,875 --> 00:48:01,167
creating affordable

2129
00:48:01,167 --> 00:48:02,604
housing.

2130
00:48:02,604 --> 00:48:04,141
So there's an example that

2131
00:48:04,141 --> 00:48:07,826
shows much

2132
00:48:07,826 --> 00:48:09,111
smaller plots, um,

2133
00:48:09,111 --> 00:48:10,357
instead of

2134
00:48:10,357 --> 00:48:11,758
trying to do

2135
00:48:11,758 --> 00:48:12,942
two acres. I

2136
00:48:12,942 --> 00:48:14,632
mean, if you're

2137
00:48:14,662 --> 00:48:15,860
zoning for two acres

2138
00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:16,352
, you're essentially

2139
00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:17,457
converting the land

2140
00:48:17,457 --> 00:48:18,710
into suburbanization. And that's

2141
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:20,012
obviously something that I

2142
00:48:20,012 --> 00:48:20,881
think

2143
00:48:20,881 --> 00:48:22,147
most people wouldn't

2144
00:48:22,147 --> 00:48:23,305
want to do to

2145
00:48:23,305 --> 00:48:24,382
our city.

2146
00:48:24,382 --> 00:48:25,591
I have a question.

2147
00:48:25,591 --> 00:48:27,265
Yes.

2148
00:48:27,265 --> 00:48:28,506
Can

2149
00:48:28,506 --> 00:48:29,557
conservation

2150
00:48:29,557 --> 00:48:30,607
zoning be applied in a rural

2151
00:48:30,607 --> 00:48:32,199
area?

2152
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:32,852
It can be

2153
00:48:32,852 --> 00:48:34,028
used

2154
00:48:34,028 --> 00:48:34,691
anywhere. Yes.

2155
00:48:34,691 --> 00:48:35,280
Good.

2156
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,555
If, well, the majority...

2157
00:48:36,555 --> 00:48:37,934
Yes, rural housing

2158
00:48:37,934 --> 00:48:39,683
development is a principle.

2159
00:48:39,683 --> 00:48:40,793
So not just in

2160
00:48:40,793 --> 00:48:41,999
wildlife or

2161
00:48:41,999 --> 00:48:43,266
conservation. So oh

2162
00:48:43,266 --> 00:48:44,019
no, you can

2163
00:48:44,019 --> 00:48:45,149
use this

2164
00:48:45,149 --> 00:48:46,372
really anywhere. It is

2165
00:48:46,372 --> 00:48:47,132
commercial,

2166
00:48:47,132 --> 00:48:48,574
available for any

2167
00:48:48,674 --> 00:48:49,867
commercial meeting

2168
00:48:49,867 --> 00:48:50,862
and commercial

2169
00:48:50,862 --> 00:48:52,646
event. This is a commercial

2170
00:48:52,646 --> 00:48:56,093
area to the east where there is a

2171
00:48:56,093 --> 00:48:57,392
barbecue area, and the

2172
00:48:57,392 --> 00:48:58,621
commercial area to the

2173
00:48:58,621 --> 00:49:00,286
west is a Hogback and a

2174
00:49:00,286 --> 00:49:02,225
pizzeria. Yes. Yes. I

2175
00:49:02,225 --> 00:49:04,422
think it's mainly

2176
00:49:04,457 --> 00:49:06,108
for housing. Uh, but

2177
00:49:06,108 --> 00:49:07,271
I'll have to

2178
00:49:07,271 --> 00:49:09,400
figure it out.

2179
00:49:09,434 --> 00:49:10,563
You can have detached

2180
00:49:10,563 --> 00:49:11,176
houses in commercial areas.

2181
00:49:11,176 --> 00:49:13,090
Oh, you can. Good. Yes.

2182
00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:14,103
The only thing you can't

2183
00:49:14,103 --> 00:49:15,143
have is a primitive

2184
00:49:15,143 --> 00:49:17,319
camp. Oh, okay. So,

2185
00:49:17,319 --> 00:49:18,023
this is a problem for

2186
00:49:18,023 --> 00:49:18,799
some people who

2187
00:49:18,799 --> 00:49:19,745
buy land just

2188
00:49:19,745 --> 00:49:20,449
along the road and

2189
00:49:20,449 --> 00:49:21,201
can't

2190
00:49:21,201 --> 00:49:23,179
do anything about it. Well, there's that

2191
00:49:23,179 --> 00:49:24,103
tiny guy with

2192
00:49:24,103 --> 00:49:25,052
the house who

2193
00:49:25,052 --> 00:49:26,461
lives there now. Which one exactly?

2194
00:49:26,461 --> 00:49:28,577
I don't know. He works

2195
00:49:28,577 --> 00:49:29,332
at NECA.

2196
00:49:29,332 --> 00:49:30,947
He has Oh, Joe Baker.

2197
00:49:30,947 --> 00:49:32,113
Yes. Yes.

2198
00:49:32,113 --> 00:49:33,142
He doesn't live in that

2199
00:49:33,142 --> 00:49:34,358
little house

2200
00:49:34,358 --> 00:49:36,063
. This is his rehearsal

2201
00:49:36,063 --> 00:49:37,393
area. He lives in a

2202
00:49:37,393 --> 00:49:39,474
trailer.

2203
00:49:39,474 --> 00:49:40,543
So, in any case

2204
00:49:40,543 --> 00:49:41,502
, to answer

2205
00:49:41,502 --> 00:49:42,435
your question, you

2206
00:49:42,435 --> 00:49:44,546
can use

2207
00:49:44,573 --> 00:49:45,670
territory preservation services in any

2208
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:50,004
area. Good.

2209
00:49:50,004 --> 00:49:50,918
And you said that

2210
00:49:50,918 --> 00:49:52,206
boundary

2211
00:49:52,206 --> 00:49:52,884
line adjustments can be

2212
00:49:52,884 --> 00:49:54,816
done by the

2213
00:49:54,850 --> 00:49:56,171
zoning administrator on their own

2214
00:49:56,171 --> 00:49:57,459
, or does it all have to go to the

2215
00:49:57,459 --> 00:49:59,422
DRB? That's something

2216
00:49:59,422 --> 00:50:00,709
I could

2217
00:50:00,709 --> 00:50:03,898
figure out.

2218
00:50:03,898 --> 00:50:04,799
Uh, you still

2219
00:50:04,799 --> 00:50:05,700
need to provide a

2220
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:06,331
land

2221
00:50:06,331 --> 00:50:07,172
survey and

2222
00:50:07,172 --> 00:50:08,344
supporting documents

2223
00:50:08,344 --> 00:50:10,387
to submit your subdivision permit application to the

2224
00:50:11,288 --> 00:50:12,069
zoning administrator for

2225
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:13,484
approval.

2226
00:50:13,484 --> 00:50:14,554
Notification of

2227
00:50:14,554 --> 00:50:15,625
any interested

2228
00:50:15,625 --> 00:50:16,252
parties.

2229
00:50:16,252 --> 00:50:17,489
This doesn't necessarily have to

2230
00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:18,250
go to the

2231
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:22,729
project review board.

2232
00:50:22,729 --> 00:50:24,305
Yes. The administrator

2233
00:50:24,305 --> 00:50:28,093
can take care of this.

2234
00:50:28,093 --> 00:50:30,541
page is 11

2235
00:50:30,541 --> 00:50:32,314
six six.

2236
00:50:32,314 --> 00:50:34,029
Yes.

2237
00:50:34,029 --> 00:50:35,261
So this

2238
00:50:35,292 --> 00:50:36,155
zoning administrator can

2239
00:50:36,155 --> 00:50:37,388
handle a

2240
00:50:37,388 --> 00:50:39,697
minor division on their own.

2241
00:50:39,697 --> 00:50:41,147
Yes, but you can always

2242
00:50:41,147 --> 00:50:42,716
contact the DRB if

2243
00:50:42,716 --> 00:50:43,952
something happens.

2244
00:50:43,952 --> 00:50:45,230
Yes. And of course, all of

2245
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:47,089
these overlapping areas

2246
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,186
are still part of the

2247
00:50:48,186 --> 00:50:48,805
review process.

2248
00:50:48,805 --> 00:50:56,594
Yes,

2249
00:50:56,594 --> 00:50:57,873
this is very useful.

2250
00:50:57,873 --> 00:50:59,229
Yes, I like

2251
00:50:59,229 --> 00:51:00,164
how it's written.

2252
00:51:00,164 --> 00:51:01,443
The writing is much

2253
00:51:01,443 --> 00:51:02,077
clearer.

2254
00:51:02,077 --> 00:51:03,132
Yes, we removed

2255
00:51:03,132 --> 00:51:04,400
a lot of the boiler, the stove

2256
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,074
was pretty rough.

2257
00:51:06,074 --> 00:51:07,118
Fish, when it

2258
00:51:07,118 --> 00:51:07,868
came to,

2259
00:51:07,868 --> 00:51:09,108
like, the

2260
00:51:09,108 --> 00:51:10,381
curb cuts, and I'm like, where's the

2261
00:51:10,381 --> 00:51:11,134
curb?

2262
00:51:11,134 --> 00:51:14,154
Yes.

2263
00:51:14,154 --> 00:51:15,248
Um, yeah, a lot of

2264
00:51:15,248 --> 00:51:16,548
this was written,

2265
00:51:16,548 --> 00:51:17,847
you know, for the development of

2266
00:51:17,847 --> 00:51:18,805
suburban New

2267
00:51:18,805 --> 00:51:19,487
Jersey and

2268
00:51:19,487 --> 00:51:19,933
Sure.

2269
00:51:19,933 --> 00:51:21,235
I hope this

2270
00:51:21,235 --> 00:51:23,036
gets here someday. Does this

2271
00:51:23,036 --> 00:51:24,067
apply to our

2272
00:51:24,067 --> 00:51:25,598
zoning regulations?

2273
00:51:25,598 --> 00:51:26,446
No.

2274
00:51:26,446 --> 00:51:28,019
I think we

2275
00:51:28,019 --> 00:51:29,034
worked on them

2276
00:51:29,034 --> 00:51:30,412
recently, and it's...Yeah,

2277
00:51:30,412 --> 00:51:31,753
I think

2278
00:51:31,753 --> 00:51:33,050
we reviewed them in 2018.

2279
00:51:33,050 --> 00:51:34,458
Yeah, I think these,

2280
00:51:34,458 --> 00:51:36,116
they were originally from

2281
00:51:36,116 --> 00:51:37,566
2010, and then they were... there

2282
00:51:37,566 --> 00:51:40,520
were a few changes,

2283
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,448
but they really

2284
00:51:41,448 --> 00:51:42,897
need updating

2285
00:51:42,897 --> 00:51:44,272
, especially because

2286
00:51:44,272 --> 00:51:45,684
they still have educational,

2287
00:51:45,684 --> 00:51:49,136
um, areas, you know, that

2288
00:51:49,136 --> 00:51:50,270
don't apply,

2289
00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:51,178
but it still makes it

2290
00:51:51,178 --> 00:51:52,248
difficult

2291
00:51:52,248 --> 00:51:53,448
when you're trying

2292
00:51:53,448 --> 00:51:54,651
to read the rules.

2293
00:51:54,651 --> 00:51:55,739
Yes. And there are just some

2294
00:51:55,739 --> 00:51:56,213
things that I

2295
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:56,996
told people

2296
00:51:56,996 --> 00:51:57,851
before you came

2297
00:51:57,851 --> 00:51:58,729
here, there are just some

2298
00:51:58,729 --> 00:51:59,560
places where it's just

2299
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,610
unclear. This makes decision making very

2300
00:52:00,610 --> 00:52:01,709
difficult

2301
00:52:01,709 --> 00:52:02,764
for people.

2302
00:52:02,764 --> 00:52:04,032
They are asking for something that is

2303
00:52:04,032 --> 00:52:05,301
simply not clear in the

2304
00:52:05,301 --> 00:52:07,370
rules.

2305
00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:08,659
And I've been very fortunate to

2306
00:52:08,659 --> 00:52:09,917
talk to different

2307
00:52:09,917 --> 00:52:11,859
people in the state. I have

2308
00:52:11,859 --> 00:52:12,854
three or four

2309
00:52:12,854 --> 00:52:13,849
people who have been very

2310
00:52:13,849 --> 00:52:14,579
helpful with

2311
00:52:14,579 --> 00:52:16,180
issues of

2312
00:52:16,180 --> 00:52:17,455
river neighborhoods,

2313
00:52:17,455 --> 00:52:18,731
waterfront and

2314
00:52:18,731 --> 00:52:20,007
other things, commercial

2315
00:52:20,007 --> 00:52:21,950
zoning and other things. But it's

2316
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:23,237
useful, but I think

2317
00:52:23,237 --> 00:52:24,389
it could really be

2318
00:52:24,389 --> 00:52:25,574
revised

2319
00:52:25,574 --> 00:52:26,468
for, well,

2320
00:52:26,468 --> 00:52:28,079
you know, consistency.

2321
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:29,429
If you can keep

2322
00:52:29,429 --> 00:52:30,844
track of these...Oh, sure.

2323
00:52:30,844 --> 00:52:31,984
I think this would be

2324
00:52:31,984 --> 00:52:32,816
very valuable for the

2325
00:52:32,816 --> 00:52:34,026
next client.

2326
00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:35,152
I'll look over my

2327
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,369
notes. There are a few

2328
00:52:36,369 --> 00:52:37,727
things where I just

2329
00:52:37,727 --> 00:52:39,121
can't figure out what it

2330
00:52:39,121 --> 00:52:40,481
means. Are

2331
00:52:40,481 --> 00:52:41,770
they exempt from payment? Aren't

2332
00:52:41,770 --> 00:52:42,750
they released?

2333
00:52:42,750 --> 00:52:43,458
You know,

2334
00:52:43,458 --> 00:52:44,672
charities are

2335
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:45,462
exempt or

2336
00:52:45,462 --> 00:52:46,592
maybe not exempt

2337
00:52:46,592 --> 00:52:47,737
from the following things.

2338
00:52:47,737 --> 00:52:49,283
It's like: oh my God.

2339
00:52:49,283 --> 00:52:50,412
Yes, you need a

2340
00:52:50,412 --> 00:52:52,331
lawyer. Yes.

2341
00:52:52,331 --> 00:52:53,365
So, we're planning to

2342
00:52:53,365 --> 00:52:54,528
hire...er, you

2343
00:52:54,528 --> 00:52:55,530
weren't here when we

2344
00:52:55,530 --> 00:52:56,468
talked about this

2345
00:52:56,468 --> 00:52:58,730
earlier to apply for a

2346
00:52:58,763 --> 00:52:59,700
municipal

2347
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:01,061
planning grant.

2348
00:53:01,061 --> 00:53:02,109
Oh, great.

2349
00:53:02,109 --> 00:53:02,767
Which would be

2350
00:53:02,767 --> 00:53:03,644
specifically to

2351
00:53:03,644 --> 00:53:04,647
pay for the

2352
00:53:04,647 --> 00:53:05,986
zoning review.

2353
00:53:05,986 --> 00:53:07,116
Well, that's what the

2354
00:53:07,116 --> 00:53:09,054
planning commission does. It would be

2355
00:53:09,054 --> 00:53:10,353
great to have,

2356
00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:11,838
you know, a consultant,

2357
00:53:11,838 --> 00:53:12,681
but, um, yeah,

2358
00:53:12,681 --> 00:53:13,988
I mean, I

2359
00:53:13,988 --> 00:53:15,732
just let you know

2360
00:53:15,732 --> 00:53:18,551
that I talked to the WRC, and,

2361
00:53:18,551 --> 00:53:20,298
um, they can

2362
00:53:20,331 --> 00:53:21,320
do pretty much anything if we

2363
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,167
get a planning grant

2364
00:53:25,385 --> 00:53:26,508
and then present

2365
00:53:26,508 --> 00:53:27,207
it to the

2366
00:53:27,207 --> 00:53:27,966
planning commission, and

2367
00:53:27,966 --> 00:53:29,090
let the

2368
00:53:29,090 --> 00:53:30,184
planning commission evaluate

2369
00:53:30,184 --> 00:53:31,216
and make changes and

2370
00:53:31,216 --> 00:53:31,894
adjustments.

2371
00:53:31,894 --> 00:53:33,001
Right. I think it would make

2372
00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:33,586
sense

2373
00:53:33,586 --> 00:53:34,952
to cooperate with the

2374
00:53:34,979 --> 00:53:35,665
planning commission.

2375
00:53:35,665 --> 00:53:37,342
Well, yes. I'm just saying

2376
00:53:37,342 --> 00:53:38,328
we would have a

2377
00:53:38,328 --> 00:53:39,789
professional like

2378
00:53:39,789 --> 00:53:41,177
Mike McConnell or

2379
00:53:41,177 --> 00:53:42,564
some other company

2380
00:53:42,564 --> 00:53:43,842
that, you know, really

2381
00:53:43,842 --> 00:53:45,769
knows the laws and so on. Um,

2382
00:53:45,769 --> 00:53:46,544
of course.

2383
00:53:46,544 --> 00:53:47,866
To give you guys, you

2384
00:53:47,866 --> 00:53:49,064
know, to

2385
00:53:49,064 --> 00:53:50,314
write it and then

2386
00:53:50,314 --> 00:53:51,260
sit down with you and

2387
00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:52,306
review it.

2388
00:53:52,306 --> 00:53:53,650
Of course.

2389
00:53:53,650 --> 00:53:54,916
You can always

2390
00:53:54,916 --> 00:53:56,365
pay us.

2391
00:53:56,365 --> 00:53:57,554
So, were there a lot of,

2392
00:53:57,554 --> 00:53:58,281
um, at your

2393
00:53:58,281 --> 00:53:59,569
public hearings, were there a

2394
00:53:59,569 --> 00:54:00,461
lot of

2395
00:54:00,461 --> 00:54:01,419
proposed

2396
00:54:01,419 --> 00:54:03,070
fixes? Just a

2397
00:54:03,070 --> 00:54:03,883
few that I

2398
00:54:03,883 --> 00:54:04,830
edited into

2399
00:54:04,830 --> 00:54:05,710
our new

2400
00:54:05,710 --> 00:54:08,176
document. So we

2401
00:54:08,176 --> 00:54:09,375
waited for these hearings

2402
00:54:09,375 --> 00:54:10,423
earlier, in case

2403
00:54:10,423 --> 00:54:11,412
we needed to

2404
00:54:11,412 --> 00:54:12,863
add anything else.

2405
00:54:12,863 --> 00:54:14,239
Well, the only thing I asked for,

2406
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,615
and I think the chart

2407
00:54:15,615 --> 00:54:16,923
clearly shows, is that

2408
00:54:16,923 --> 00:54:17,783
people are sometimes

2409
00:54:17,783 --> 00:54:18,815
surprised that they

2410
00:54:18,815 --> 00:54:19,985
need to do a

2411
00:54:19,985 --> 00:54:20,808
survey.

2412
00:54:20,808 --> 00:54:22,459
Oh, the survey

2413
00:54:22,459 --> 00:54:23,567
I wrote to Jim about, and I

2414
00:54:23,567 --> 00:54:24,399
said, just

2415
00:54:24,399 --> 00:54:25,569
put that first

2416
00:54:25,569 --> 00:54:26,594
. You

2417
00:54:26,594 --> 00:54:27,377
mean every

2418
00:54:27,377 --> 00:54:28,411
survey has to be

2419
00:54:28,411 --> 00:54:29,277
conducted, meaning

2420
00:54:29,277 --> 00:54:30,339
every district has to have a

2421
00:54:30,339 --> 00:54:31,150
survey, which

2422
00:54:31,150 --> 00:54:32,340
costs a lot of money.

2423
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:34,130
Absolutely. But

2424
00:54:34,130 --> 00:54:34,941
Malcolm Moore

2425
00:54:34,941 --> 00:54:35,988
was actually at

2426
00:54:35,988 --> 00:54:37,305
our hearing and, uh

2427
00:54:37,305 --> 00:54:38,285
, made it very clear

2428
00:54:38,285 --> 00:54:39,129
that the

2429
00:54:39,129 --> 00:54:39,940
survey is an

2430
00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:41,687
important document.

2431
00:54:41,687 --> 00:54:43,505
Yes. So this, uh, is clearly

2432
00:54:43,505 --> 00:54:45,015
visible in this diagram

2433
00:54:45,015 --> 00:54:45,367
.

2434
00:54:45,367 --> 00:54:48,204
Yes. Um, but I didn't see

2435
00:54:48,204 --> 00:54:49,177
that in the opening

2436
00:54:49,177 --> 00:54:50,276
comments, just so

2437
00:54:50,276 --> 00:54:51,343
you know, because it

2438
00:54:51,343 --> 00:54:53,478
makes the city staff's job easier

2439
00:54:53,509 --> 00:54:54,765
if they don't have to

2440
00:54:54,765 --> 00:54:55,927
argue about it

2441
00:54:55,927 --> 00:54:58,670
.

2442
00:54:58,670 --> 00:55:00,014
One of the things that, um, has

2443
00:55:00,014 --> 00:55:00,970
obviously been a

2444
00:55:00,970 --> 00:55:02,385
problem in the past,

2445
00:55:02,385 --> 00:55:03,730
and we're trying

2446
00:55:03,730 --> 00:55:05,075
to emphasize here, is that

2447
00:55:05,075 --> 00:55:06,313
everyone has to have a

2448
00:55:06,313 --> 00:55:07,375
registered title deed

2449
00:55:07,375 --> 00:55:08,958
.

2450
00:55:08,958 --> 00:55:10,045
It’s not enough to just

2451
00:55:10,045 --> 00:55:10,830
go ahead and

2452
00:55:10,830 --> 00:55:12,001
get the job done. You

2453
00:55:12,001 --> 00:55:13,117
actually have to

2454
00:55:13,117 --> 00:55:15,339
get permission. Yes.

2455
00:55:15,339 --> 00:55:16,705
They have 180 days

2456
00:55:16,705 --> 00:55:17,939
to register

2457
00:55:17,939 --> 00:55:19,355
the plan and the title deed

2458
00:55:19,355 --> 00:55:19,673
,

2459
00:55:19,673 --> 00:55:20,268
right?

2460
00:55:20,268 --> 00:55:21,368
And if they don't

2461
00:55:21,368 --> 00:55:22,200
do it, it's

2462
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,044
canceled.

2463
00:55:23,044 --> 00:55:24,193
They can't start

2464
00:55:24,193 --> 00:55:25,283
until all this is

2465
00:55:25,283 --> 00:55:26,712
done, right?

2466
00:55:26,712 --> 00:55:27,826
Uh, when it's

2467
00:55:27,826 --> 00:55:29,201
finished, uh...Oh, that's

2468
00:55:29,201 --> 00:55:30,527
true. They have to

2469
00:55:30,527 --> 00:55:31,215
get...

2470
00:55:31,215 --> 00:55:32,272
It's not realistic until it's

2471
00:55:32,272 --> 00:55:33,112
done

2472
00:55:33,112 --> 00:55:33,980
over a

2473
00:55:33,980 --> 00:55:34,731
period of time.

2474
00:55:34,731 --> 00:55:36,907
That's good. Um, I would

2475
00:55:36,907 --> 00:55:37,868
advise Molly to

2476
00:55:37,868 --> 00:55:38,900
maybe just

2477
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:39,826
write something on her

2478
00:55:39,826 --> 00:55:40,751
own and

2479
00:55:40,751 --> 00:55:41,606
send it to

2480
00:55:41,606 --> 00:55:43,200
Donald, and

2481
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,437
I don't want to

2482
00:55:44,437 --> 00:55:45,895
go through the 30-

2483
00:55:45,895 --> 00:55:47,221
day, 45-day, 30-

2484
00:55:47,221 --> 00:55:48,856
day, 45-day series of

2485
00:55:48,856 --> 00:55:51,545
public hearings again.

2486
00:55:51,545 --> 00:55:52,005
If we were to

2487
00:55:52,005 --> 00:55:52,893
propose a

2488
00:55:52,893 --> 00:55:54,450
review of this,

2489
00:55:54,450 --> 00:55:55,549
we would be back at the

2490
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:56,648
beginning of the legal

2491
00:55:56,648 --> 00:55:57,808
process, which would be another

2492
00:55:57,808 --> 00:55:59,038
six months away.

2493
00:55:59,038 --> 00:56:00,637
Yes. Yes.

2494
00:56:00,637 --> 00:56:01,172
So,

2495
00:56:01,172 --> 00:56:01,936
but if this is

2496
00:56:01,936 --> 00:56:03,125
editing,

2497
00:56:03,125 --> 00:56:04,779
I don't know. Are you talking

2498
00:56:04,779 --> 00:56:05,652
about reviewing or

2499
00:56:05,652 --> 00:56:07,573
just editing?

2500
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:08,490
Well, would it be

2501
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:09,800
an edit if you

2502
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,979
added somewhere at the top

2503
00:56:10,979 --> 00:56:12,125
that every unit

2504
00:56:12,125 --> 00:56:13,646
requires a survey?

2505
00:56:13,646 --> 00:56:14,783
Oh. Oh, you don't

2506
00:56:14,783 --> 00:56:16,234
see that when you read

2507
00:56:16,234 --> 00:56:26,749
...We tried

2508
00:56:26,749 --> 00:56:28,084
to make sure that this

2509
00:56:28,084 --> 00:56:29,173
text and the diagram are

2510
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:34,831
consistent. Uh...uh, by

2511
00:56:34,831 --> 00:56:35,777
the way, there's also a

2512
00:56:35,777 --> 00:56:38,359
checklist. Have

2513
00:56:38,359 --> 00:56:38,936
you seen the

2514
00:56:38,936 --> 00:56:40,192
checklist?

2515
00:56:40,192 --> 00:56:41,594
Yes, that's good. I

2516
00:56:41,594 --> 00:56:42,747
like the old one,

2517
00:56:42,747 --> 00:56:43,963
where it was written who was supposed to

2518
00:56:43,963 --> 00:56:45,887
do what, but this one is

2519
00:56:45,887 --> 00:56:46,436
much

2520
00:56:46,436 --> 00:56:47,632
clearer. And here is

2521
00:56:47,632 --> 00:56:48,323
where the

2522
00:56:48,323 --> 00:56:50,077
inspection check,

2523
00:56:50,077 --> 00:56:50,681
,

2524
00:56:50,681 --> 00:56:51,691
inspection check. So,

2525
00:56:51,691 --> 00:56:53,180
in the end, it's clear

2526
00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:57,629
. But if it were in the

2527
00:56:57,629 --> 00:56:58,878
reporting requirements

2528
00:56:58,878 --> 00:57:00,127
for separation procedures

2529
00:57:00,127 --> 00:57:00,895
and

2530
00:57:00,895 --> 00:57:01,728
approval procedures,

2531
00:57:01,728 --> 00:57:03,008
maybe that's where it

2532
00:57:03,008 --> 00:57:05,173
is.

2533
00:57:05,173 --> 00:57:28,971
Yes. Are you looking for

2534
00:57:28,971 --> 00:57:29,944
information about

2535
00:57:29,944 --> 00:57:31,094
the application? Oh, you got it

2536
00:57:31,094 --> 00:57:32,007
.

2537
00:57:32,007 --> 00:57:32,394
You

2538
00:57:32,394 --> 00:57:34,321
are considering 180 days.

2539
00:57:34,321 --> 00:57:35,410
No, I just thought it

2540
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:36,556
meant somewhere that

2541
00:57:36,556 --> 00:57:37,617
every division requires a

2542
00:57:37,617 --> 00:57:42,722
period of examination.

2543
00:57:42,722 --> 00:57:43,952
Yes, this is not in the

2544
00:57:43,952 --> 00:57:45,445
drawing record.

2545
00:57:45,445 --> 00:57:48,533
These are the 180 days.

2546
00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:50,099
Hmm, the division flowchart

2547
00:57:50,099 --> 00:57:51,665
explains it very clearly

2548
00:57:51,665 --> 00:57:53,546
. It is

2549
00:57:53,546 --> 00:57:55,863
spelled out very clearly here. So that would be

2550
00:57:55,905 --> 00:57:56,951
enough.

2551
00:57:56,951 --> 00:57:57,602
Table 2.2

2552
00:57:57,602 --> 00:57:58,700
lists all

2553
00:57:58,700 --> 00:57:59,935
the information you

2554
00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:01,101
need to provide, and

2555
00:58:01,101 --> 00:58:02,302
under the plot plan column

2556
00:58:02,302 --> 00:58:03,468
it says "

2557
00:58:03,468 --> 00:58:06,757
surveyed." So all

2558
00:58:06,757 --> 00:58:07,609
this information

2559
00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:08,690
comes during the

2560
00:58:08,690 --> 00:58:11,565
examination. Yes, it

2561
00:58:11,565 --> 00:58:12,808
says that one is the

2562
00:58:12,808 --> 00:58:14,783
initial conversation with the

2563
00:58:14,815 --> 00:58:15,961
zoning administrator, and the second

2564
00:58:15,961 --> 00:58:17,013
section for each

2565
00:58:17,013 --> 00:58:17,713
party is

2566
00:58:17,713 --> 00:58:18,542
the survey and

2567
00:58:18,542 --> 00:58:19,784
supporting documents

2568
00:58:19,784 --> 00:58:21,058
, the initial survey,

2569
00:58:21,058 --> 00:58:24,687
and written descriptions.

2570
00:58:24,687 --> 00:58:25,893
Yes.

2571
00:58:25,893 --> 00:58:27,401
That's good. So

2572
00:58:27,401 --> 00:58:28,719
there's no need for this

2573
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:29,412
other thing,

2574
00:58:29,412 --> 00:58:30,972
right?

2575
00:58:30,972 --> 00:58:31,997
Or in the disputes of

2576
00:58:31,997 --> 00:58:32,891
certain people.

2577
00:58:32,891 --> 00:58:34,452
should read.

2578
00:58:34,452 --> 00:58:36,176
Yes. or listening,

2579
00:58:36,176 --> 00:58:37,749
you know,

2580
00:58:37,749 --> 00:58:38,791
because both are very

2581
00:58:38,791 --> 00:58:41,138
difficult.

2582
00:58:41,138 --> 00:58:43,222
There are a few units in the future

2583
00:58:43,254 --> 00:58:44,152
that look

2584
00:58:44,152 --> 00:58:45,434
pretty complicated, but

2585
00:58:45,434 --> 00:58:51,149
we'll see. Um, we

2586
00:58:51,149 --> 00:58:52,270
lost, we

2587
00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:53,717
basically only have one

2588
00:58:53,717 --> 00:58:54,960
person on the line,

2589
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,562
Gussie. Gussie, I think,

2590
00:58:56,562 --> 00:58:57,546
you know, if you

2591
00:58:57,546 --> 00:58:58,917
know, I mean

2592
00:58:58,917 --> 00:59:00,146
, I think we can

2593
00:59:00,146 --> 00:59:01,341
just open up

2594
00:59:01,341 --> 00:59:02,747
for closing questions

2595
00:59:02,747 --> 00:59:03,585
and then we...

2596
00:59:03,585 --> 00:59:05,007
Thank you very much, Tom.

2597
00:59:05,007 --> 00:59:06,490
Yes, thank you for coming

2598
00:59:06,490 --> 00:59:07,880
. I really appreciate it.

2599
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,087
Thank you for all your work.

2600
00:59:12,087 --> 00:59:13,243
Any final

2601
00:59:13,243 --> 00:59:16,398
questions, comments?

2602
00:59:16,398 --> 00:59:19,000
My final question would be that

2603
00:59:19,035 --> 00:59:20,336
I like how

2604
00:59:20,336 --> 00:59:21,535
you summarize

2605
00:59:21,535 --> 00:59:22,494
everything that the

2606
00:59:22,494 --> 00:59:23,692
Board of Elections and

2607
00:59:23,692 --> 00:59:26,575
other city commissions do.

2608
00:59:26,575 --> 00:59:27,903
And I just hope

2609
00:59:27,903 --> 00:59:28,686
that everything gets

2610
00:59:28,686 --> 00:59:29,571
recorded in

2611
00:59:29,571 --> 00:59:30,729
the minutes so that everyone

2612
00:59:30,729 --> 00:59:32,092
can read it

2613
00:59:32,092 --> 00:59:33,318
if they're not here yet,

2614
00:59:33,318 --> 00:59:34,612
because I'm amazed at the amount of

2615
00:59:34,612 --> 00:59:35,735
work that you all

2616
00:59:35,735 --> 00:59:37,822
do. I thought

2617
00:59:37,822 --> 00:59:39,127
we should do something

2618
00:59:39,127 --> 00:59:39,715
like a

2619
00:59:39,715 --> 00:59:40,987
quarterly report

2620
00:59:40,987 --> 00:59:42,056
, just a list of

2621
00:59:42,056 --> 00:59:43,732
something on the MRO Mixer or

2622
00:59:43,732 --> 00:59:44,644
something

2623
00:59:44,644 --> 00:59:46,071
on the website so people

2624
00:59:46,071 --> 00:59:47,492
know. We are also

2625
00:59:47,492 --> 00:59:48,860
starting to develop a

2626
00:59:48,860 --> 00:59:50,653
system. Nick came up with

2627
00:59:50,653 --> 00:59:51,942
this so that, you know, you have a

2628
00:59:51,942 --> 00:59:52,959
meeting, you

2629
00:59:52,959 --> 00:59:54,180
discuss a certain

2630
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:55,367
topic, and then some

2631
00:59:55,367 --> 00:59:56,622
things we do and

2632
00:59:56,622 --> 00:59:57,944
some things we put off until

2633
00:59:57,944 --> 01:00:00,044
later. And Nick

2634
01:00:00,044 --> 01:00:01,203
suggested that

2635
01:00:01,203 --> 01:00:02,201
we have a physical

2636
01:00:02,201 --> 01:00:03,200
folder with the

2637
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,488
agenda, minutes, and the to-

2638
01:00:04,488 --> 01:00:05,744
do list that

2639
01:00:05,744 --> 01:00:07,614
came out of that. And then,

2640
01:00:07,614 --> 01:00:08,763
when we think

2641
01:00:08,763 --> 01:00:09,879
we have nothing to do, we

2642
01:00:09,879 --> 01:00:10,732
turn around and

2643
01:00:10,732 --> 01:00:11,946
say, "Oh, the traffic

2644
01:00:11,946 --> 01:00:14,192
situation." My God.

2645
01:00:14,192 --> 01:00:15,671
Um, what I put on the

2646
01:00:15,671 --> 01:00:17,190
screen, uh, so you can

2647
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:19,057
see it. This is, um,

2648
01:00:19,057 --> 01:00:20,142
a comparison between

2649
01:00:20,142 --> 01:00:21,075
the old

2650
01:00:21,075 --> 01:00:21,690
Okay.

2651
01:00:21,690 --> 01:00:22,996
charges for units

2652
01:00:22,996 --> 01:00:24,131
and new charges for

2653
01:00:24,131 --> 01:00:26,613
units. Um, and what

2654
01:00:26,613 --> 01:00:32,546
I'll do is put it

2655
01:00:32,546 --> 01:00:33,785
on the record, that it

2656
01:00:33,785 --> 01:00:40,656
will be...I'll put it on the

2657
01:00:40,656 --> 01:00:42,790
record, um, this

2658
01:00:42,790 --> 01:00:43,493
wonderful

2659
01:00:43,493 --> 01:00:44,506
two-page

2660
01:00:44,506 --> 01:00:47,735
statement.

2661
01:00:47,735 --> 01:00:49,412
Um, and it probably doesn't

2662
01:00:49,412 --> 01:00:59,452
cover everything, but, um, but it'll, um,

2663
01:00:59,452 --> 01:01:01,742
it's pretty good.

2664
01:01:01,742 --> 01:01:03,270
This really, I think,

2665
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:04,883
can help people

2666
01:01:04,883 --> 01:01:09,542
... oh, well, you know, um, in

2667
01:01:09,542 --> 01:01:10,742
general it makes

2668
01:01:10,742 --> 01:01:11,736
development easier, it provides a little bit

2669
01:01:11,736 --> 01:01:14,034
more

2670
01:01:14,068 --> 01:01:15,234
housing, and it, um, gives

2671
01:01:15,234 --> 01:01:16,571
people the right to put

2672
01:01:16,571 --> 01:01:17,840
land under protection and

2673
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,937
then reduce

2674
01:01:18,937 --> 01:01:21,658
the size of the lot. This is

2675
01:01:21,658 --> 01:01:23,002
really good. We

2676
01:01:23,002 --> 01:01:24,469
could have some kind of, um

2677
01:01:24,469 --> 01:01:25,823
, you know, community,

2678
01:01:25,823 --> 01:01:27,064
you know what they

2679
01:01:27,064 --> 01:01:30,077
call them? Shared

2680
01:01:30,077 --> 01:01:30,687
gardens.

2681
01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:32,388
Yes. What can I do

2682
01:01:32,388 --> 01:01:32,772
...

2683
01:01:32,772 --> 01:01:34,509
Yes. For example,

2684
01:01:34,509 --> 01:01:35,357
five

2685
01:01:35,357 --> 01:01:36,308
houses share a front

2686
01:01:36,308 --> 01:01:37,632
center building where

2687
01:01:37,632 --> 01:01:39,288
all the water, kitchen, etc. are located.

2688
01:01:39,288 --> 01:01:40,924
Good. Cool housing.

2689
01:01:40,924 --> 01:01:42,687
What could I do...That's all.

2690
01:01:42,687 --> 01:01:44,194
Yes. What could I do with this

2691
01:01:44,194 --> 01:01:45,513
, since it's

2692
01:01:45,513 --> 01:01:46,763
not, uh, a

2693
01:01:46,763 --> 01:01:48,724
regulation or anything,

2694
01:01:48,724 --> 01:01:50,078
uh, before we get

2695
01:01:50,078 --> 01:01:51,468
to the individual items, could I

2696
01:01:51,468 --> 01:01:52,858
just add,

2697
01:01:52,858 --> 01:01:53,606
please,

2698
01:01:53,606 --> 01:01:56,437
a note

2699
01:01:56,437 --> 01:01:57,186
that any

2700
01:01:57,186 --> 01:01:58,293
subsection requires

2701
01:01:58,293 --> 01:01:59,530
a poll before

2702
01:01:59,530 --> 01:02:00,768
I bold it

2703
01:02:00,768 --> 01:02:01,843
, you know, and

2704
01:02:01,843 --> 01:02:02,722
that way it's

2705
01:02:02,722 --> 01:02:03,504
added to the

2706
01:02:03,504 --> 01:02:06,526
record. And if so,

2707
01:02:06,526 --> 01:02:07,476
that will make me

2708
01:02:07,476 --> 01:02:08,595
happy. Uh, if

2709
01:02:08,595 --> 01:02:09,519
you want, uh, Don, I

2710
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:10,558
can, uh,

2711
01:02:10,558 --> 01:02:11,627
email it to you

2712
01:02:11,627 --> 01:02:12,767
in advance.

2713
01:02:12,767 --> 01:02:13,496
I would like to

2714
01:02:13,496 --> 01:02:14,336
see that. Yes,

2715
01:02:14,336 --> 01:02:15,006
let me

2716
01:02:15,006 --> 01:02:15,693
share.

2717
01:02:15,693 --> 01:02:16,849
Make sure everything is

2718
01:02:16,849 --> 01:02:17,923
correct. Yes.

2719
01:02:17,923 --> 01:02:18,685
No.

2720
01:02:18,685 --> 01:02:19,286
Good.

2721
01:02:19,286 --> 01:02:20,606
Critical errors.

2722
01:02:20,606 --> 01:02:21,748
So until I hear back

2723
01:02:21,748 --> 01:02:22,862
from you, I'll

2724
01:02:22,862 --> 01:02:23,919
post the minutes,

2725
01:02:23,919 --> 01:02:25,004
but when I hear

2726
01:02:25,004 --> 01:02:25,918
back from you, I

2727
01:02:25,918 --> 01:02:26,333
can...

2728
01:02:26,333 --> 01:02:26,959
Great.

2729
01:02:26,959 --> 01:02:28,050
Uh, amend the

2730
01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:29,170
protocol and add

2731
01:02:29,170 --> 01:02:29,529
it.

2732
01:02:29,529 --> 01:02:32,286
Perfectly. And I...

2733
01:02:32,286 --> 01:02:33,355
Well, if there's

2734
01:02:33,355 --> 01:02:37,234
nothing else, Nick,

2735
01:02:37,234 --> 01:02:39,806
questions, comments,

2736
01:02:39,806 --> 01:02:40,863
I...uh, I'll probably

2737
01:02:40,863 --> 01:02:42,168
print out this list of what

2738
01:02:42,168 --> 01:02:43,438
you didn't get to

2739
01:02:43,438 --> 01:02:44,707
hear, everything

2740
01:02:44,707 --> 01:02:46,118
we've been working on at some

2741
01:02:46,118 --> 01:02:47,105
point, and

2742
01:02:47,105 --> 01:02:49,595
share it somehow. Uh, that

2743
01:02:49,595 --> 01:02:51,062
will be in the record.

2744
01:02:51,062 --> 01:02:51,912
Oh, it will be in these

2745
01:02:51,912 --> 01:02:52,992
minutes, because there are

2746
01:02:52,992 --> 01:02:54,267
some things on which

2747
01:02:54,267 --> 01:02:55,249
we will need

2748
01:02:55,249 --> 01:02:57,006
public opinion. An

2749
01:02:57,006 --> 01:02:58,080
important matter with the

2750
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,290
fire department. An

2751
01:02:59,290 --> 01:03:00,308
important matter with the

2752
01:03:00,308 --> 01:03:01,129
regional

2753
01:03:01,129 --> 01:03:03,102
police. The recycling center thing is important

2754
01:03:03,787 --> 01:03:04,504
as we

2755
01:03:04,504 --> 01:03:05,714
learn more.

2756
01:03:05,714 --> 01:03:06,456
We need to

2757
01:03:06,456 --> 01:03:07,384
get more

2758
01:03:07,384 --> 01:03:08,468
feedback.

2759
01:03:08,468 --> 01:03:09,628
So, if everyone here

2760
01:03:09,628 --> 01:03:10,409
agrees...

2761
01:03:10,409 --> 01:03:11,125
Oh, yeah.

2762
01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:12,842
Oh, quick question. I

2763
01:03:12,842 --> 01:03:14,136
noticed on the website

2764
01:03:14,136 --> 01:03:15,295
that it was either under

2765
01:03:15,295 --> 01:03:16,487
revision

2766
01:03:16,487 --> 01:03:17,866
or

2767
01:03:17,866 --> 01:03:19,337
we had a technical

2768
01:03:19,337 --> 01:03:20,732
glitch and now we're, uh,

2769
01:03:20,732 --> 01:03:23,288
changing its language.

2770
01:03:23,288 --> 01:03:25,061
This website we had was

2771
01:03:25,097 --> 01:03:26,472
hosted by someone

2772
01:03:26,472 --> 01:03:28,193
from

2773
01:03:28,193 --> 01:03:29,908
WordPress and GoDaddy, and it

2774
01:03:29,908 --> 01:03:32,975
crashed,

2775
01:03:32,975 --> 01:03:34,261
and when it crashed,

2776
01:03:34,261 --> 01:03:35,478
we found that their

2777
01:03:35,478 --> 01:03:36,730
customer support

2778
01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:39,811
and everything else was terrible.

2779
01:03:39,811 --> 01:03:40,917
So, we're completely

2780
01:03:40,917 --> 01:03:44,815
redesigning the website with a

2781
01:03:44,815 --> 01:03:46,140
Vermont company

2782
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:46,869
that creates

2783
01:03:46,869 --> 01:03:47,697
municipal

2784
01:03:47,697 --> 01:03:48,426
websites and

2785
01:03:48,426 --> 01:03:49,619
specializes in

2786
01:03:49,619 --> 01:03:52,595
this. And we will make

2787
01:03:52,595 --> 01:03:53,917
sure that every group

2788
01:03:53,917 --> 01:03:55,976
has access. They won't

2789
01:03:55,976 --> 01:03:56,636
have to

2790
01:03:56,636 --> 01:03:57,893
come to me for

2791
01:03:57,893 --> 01:03:58,757
everything.

2792
01:03:58,757 --> 01:03:59,901
Hmm, and of course it

2793
01:03:59,901 --> 01:04:01,046
will grow

2794
01:04:01,046 --> 01:04:01,947
as people

2795
01:04:01,947 --> 01:04:03,127
add their

2796
01:04:03,127 --> 01:04:04,445
pages and all that

2797
01:04:04,445 --> 01:04:05,662
, but

2798
01:04:05,662 --> 01:04:07,414
it's a blow to the budget.

2799
01:04:07,414 --> 01:04:09,693
$6,800 is the cost,

2800
01:04:09,693 --> 01:04:10,650
but annually it is

2801
01:04:10,650 --> 01:04:12,034
cheaper than what we

2802
01:04:12,034 --> 01:04:13,342
pay now.

2803
01:04:13,342 --> 01:04:14,339
And this year we are over

2804
01:04:14,339 --> 01:04:15,517
budget in

2805
01:04:15,517 --> 01:04:16,424
many different

2806
01:04:16,424 --> 01:04:17,819
places. So people have

2807
01:04:17,819 --> 01:04:24,520
been very positive about the

2808
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,872
current website,

2809
01:04:25,872 --> 01:04:27,428
if you look at

2810
01:04:27,428 --> 01:04:28,771
what really caused the

2811
01:04:28,771 --> 01:04:29,947
crash–it was the drop-down

2812
01:04:29,947 --> 01:04:32,021
menus. So if you

2813
01:04:32,021 --> 01:04:33,420
use the

2814
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:34,540
search bar, you can

2815
01:04:34,540 --> 01:04:35,904
find what I do, which is that

2816
01:04:35,904 --> 01:04:37,199
periodically when I

2817
01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:38,318
go through the

2818
01:04:38,318 --> 01:04:39,368
website, I put a

2819
01:04:39,368 --> 01:04:40,277
post on the

2820
01:04:40,277 --> 01:04:42,467
main page.

2821
01:04:42,467 --> 01:04:43,246
So if you

2822
01:04:43,246 --> 01:04:44,591
click on Marboro Vtus, you'll

2823
01:04:44,591 --> 01:04:45,972
be taken to the home

2824
01:04:45,972 --> 01:04:47,282
page, and there will be

2825
01:04:47,282 --> 01:04:48,132
a post with

2826
01:04:48,132 --> 01:04:48,982
links,

2827
01:04:48,982 --> 01:04:50,328
for example, to the

2828
01:04:50,328 --> 01:04:52,311
document list, to the

2829
01:04:52,346 --> 01:04:54,840
board selection page, to the HPC page.

2830
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,791
So I'm trying to

2831
01:04:55,791 --> 01:04:56,874
make it so that I can't

2832
01:04:56,874 --> 01:04:57,793
restore the

2833
01:04:57,793 --> 01:04:58,974
dropdown menus, but

2834
01:04:58,974 --> 01:05:00,156
that doesn't allow me to

2835
01:05:00,156 --> 01:05:01,009
do it without

2836
01:05:01,009 --> 01:05:02,322
spending a huge

2837
01:05:02,322 --> 01:05:03,438
amount of money on these

2838
01:05:03,438 --> 01:05:06,494
people. So, I'm

2839
01:05:06,494 --> 01:05:07,504
basically adding a

2840
01:05:07,504 --> 01:05:08,513
post where I just

2841
01:05:08,513 --> 01:05:09,725
add links

2842
01:05:09,725 --> 01:05:10,566
that you just

2843
01:05:10,566 --> 01:05:11,475
click on, you

2844
01:05:11,475 --> 01:05:12,619
go there, and

2845
01:05:12,619 --> 01:05:13,494
then if you

2846
01:05:13,494 --> 01:05:14,739
go to the list of

2847
01:05:14,739 --> 01:05:16,018
documents, they're all

2848
01:05:16,018 --> 01:05:17,750
active. You can

2849
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:18,479
click on the

2850
01:05:18,479 --> 01:05:19,665
link and get

2851
01:05:19,665 --> 01:05:20,759
any document,

2852
01:05:20,759 --> 01:05:22,841
everything is there. All you

2853
01:05:22,841 --> 01:05:23,738
need is a

2854
01:05:23,738 --> 01:05:24,912
driver to

2855
01:05:24,912 --> 01:05:25,772
take you there.

2856
01:05:25,772 --> 01:05:26,978
OK. And so I'm

2857
01:05:26,978 --> 01:05:28,179
working around

2858
01:05:28,179 --> 01:05:28,955
this night.

2859
01:05:28,955 --> 01:05:29,963
Do we know what the

2860
01:05:29,963 --> 01:05:31,102
timeline is for the new

2861
01:05:31,102 --> 01:05:31,788
website?

2862
01:05:31,788 --> 01:05:32,943
Hmm, I don't know...I don't

2863
01:05:32,943 --> 01:05:34,133
want to

2864
01:05:34,133 --> 01:05:35,184
commit. And

2865
01:05:35,184 --> 01:05:35,990
Rebecca is

2866
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:38,108
doing it. Hmm, I

2867
01:05:38,108 --> 01:05:38,978
think they are

2868
01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:40,318
working very quickly

2869
01:05:40,318 --> 01:05:41,557
because this is a problem

2870
01:05:41,557 --> 01:05:42,628
because we also

2871
01:05:42,628 --> 01:05:43,700
need it to be up and

2872
01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:44,570
running before the

2873
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:46,256
election.

2874
01:05:46,256 --> 01:05:46,868
OK.

2875
01:05:46,868 --> 01:05:47,339
So

2876
01:05:47,339 --> 01:05:47,754
oh.

2877
01:05:47,754 --> 01:05:48,815
What company

2878
01:05:48,815 --> 01:05:50,344
does this? Do you know

2879
01:05:50,344 --> 01:05:50,486
?

2880
01:05:50,486 --> 01:05:52,164
It's called, uh,

2881
01:05:52,164 --> 01:05:52,516
Civil.

2882
01:05:52,516 --> 01:05:56,447
OK. And you can

2883
01:05:56,447 --> 01:05:57,632
go to their

2884
01:05:57,632 --> 01:05:58,817
website and see,

2885
01:05:58,817 --> 01:06:00,668
you know, all of this. And

2886
01:06:00,668 --> 01:06:01,900
then I...I can't

2887
01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:04,506
remember the name of the city.

2888
01:06:04,506 --> 01:06:05,885
Westford, I think

2889
01:06:05,885 --> 01:06:07,568
Westford...

2890
01:06:07,568 --> 01:06:08,777
when they came to give us

2891
01:06:08,777 --> 01:06:09,835
a presentation, they

2892
01:06:09,835 --> 01:06:10,803
showed us the website for

2893
01:06:10,803 --> 01:06:11,559
Westford, this is a

2894
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:12,587
small rural

2895
01:06:12,587 --> 01:06:13,806
town in Vermont.

2896
01:06:13,806 --> 01:06:14,941
So, I mean,

2897
01:06:14,941 --> 01:06:16,275
perfect example. And,

2898
01:06:16,275 --> 01:06:17,222
uh, both Forrest and

2899
01:06:17,222 --> 01:06:18,234
Rebecca really

2900
01:06:18,234 --> 01:06:19,336
liked him. And they

2901
01:06:19,336 --> 01:06:20,311
said, "Nick, do you

2902
01:06:20,311 --> 01:06:21,286
really need to

2903
01:06:21,286 --> 01:06:22,388
see this?" Guys, I

2904
01:06:22,388 --> 01:06:23,451
know if you

2905
01:06:23,451 --> 01:06:24,307
like it, that's

2906
01:06:24,307 --> 01:06:25,231
fine.

2907
01:06:25,231 --> 01:06:26,901
OK. So, I think it's

2908
01:06:26,901 --> 01:06:27,974
time to close this

2909
01:06:27,974 --> 01:06:29,638
meeting. I move to

2910
01:06:29,638 --> 01:06:31,881
close this meeting at

2911
01:06:31,881 --> 01:06:33,658
312.

2912
01:06:33,658 --> 01:06:34,255
Second.

2913
01:06:34,255 --> 01:06:35,145
All in favor?

2914
01:06:35,145 --> 01:06:40,200
1. So I hope that

2915
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,332
...