1 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:29,680 Good evening. I will call to order the Finance Committee meeting on August 31st, 2026 at 630 p.m. We have one item on the agenda this evening. Communication from the mayor. Proposed order for the acquisition of 40 log drive. With that, I'll begin with order number 26-108. Communication from the mayor. Proposed order for the acquisition of 40 log drive. 2 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:39,420 that the mayor is authorized to enter into an agreement, to acquire any necessary interest in the real property note as 40 lock drive, 3 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:48,980 Maubro Mass for municipal purposes, including a new fire station, by a friendly eminent domain taking for the sum of $4,000,000,000, $50,000, 4 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:59,320 subject to the terms and conditions of the agreement and any applicable laws in the following conditions completion of any required 5 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:07,200 by due diligence and favorable vote of the City Council authorizing the acquisition of the property as referenced in the agreement. 6 00:01:07,940 --> 00:01:21,520 And furtherance, therefore, the City Council by a two-thirds vote of all its members hereby authorize an appropriation of $5,092,666 to provide funding for 7 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,420 the acquisition of real property for a new west side fire station, including any and all damages. 8 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:44,800 services cost relating their third to and any design or construction costs associated with the new west side fire station and to meet the set appropriation by reappropriate repropriating $5 million $92,666. 9 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:56,440 dollars, currently in land acquisition account number 193-0-0-0-0-6-581-2-0, to be available for all such purposes. 10 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,120 With that, I will also read the letter submitted by the mayor. 11 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Dear Council President Ossing and Councillors, it is with immense pride that I submit this request to you in close for your approval. 12 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,820 And acceptance is an order regarding an agreement to acquire the property of 40-log 13 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:16,640 drive model. 14 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,040 This order authorizes entering into an agreement relative to the friendly taking 15 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,780 of the property based upon terms negotiated with the property owner. 16 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:32,240 Once due diligence is complete and satisfactory for the agreement, I anticipate 17 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,800 requesting a future vote to authorize actual taking of the property and adoption 18 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,500 of an order of taking which would be recorded at the registry of deeds. 19 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,820 Also, included for your approval as part of the order is a request to change the purposes 20 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:58,580 of the funds in the land acquisition account number 193-0006-58120 to reflect the appropriation 21 00:02:58,580 --> 00:03:03,900 of funds to be all encompassing for a new fire station project including land acquisition 22 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:09,060 and design and construction and not limited as it is currently set up. 23 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:18,500 The approval and this acquisition and reallocated funds will streamline the process of building of a much needed west side fire station. 24 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:32,240 There is much work that needs to be done, but this is a massive step forward towards meeting the needs and demands of our growing community to ensure public safety and response times for the west side of the city. 25 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:39,640 This milestone could not have happened without the help and collaboration of my office with West Side Fire Station Committee, 26 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:46,760 legal department, both police and fire department, DPW, MEDC, and the support of the City Council. 27 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:52,460 I look forward to discussing any questions you may have about the acquisition of this important property, 28 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,000 sincerely, J. Christian, Dumas, mayor. 29 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:59,100 And at that point, Mr. Mayor, if you wish to bring any one of your team, 30 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:07,780 Also, a reminder to the Finance Committee, this would be voting on two votes this evening on this agenda item. 31 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:10,840 Good evening, Mr. Mayor, good evening, Mr. Solicitor, 32 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:13,830 good evening. 33 00:04:15,150 --> 00:04:22,270 I don't know what you can kind of go through on the friendly land taking. 34 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:27,950 And we are any part of the agreement that you wish to share. 35 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:36,630 So we are hopefully entering into agreement to acquire 40 lock drive for the fire station 36 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:41,350 and if council approves it, then we can start doing our due diligence with testing the 37 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:46,170 land and moving forward to see what that will encompass to move forward to actually the 38 00:04:46,170 --> 00:04:48,910 design and then obviously the building of the property. 39 00:04:49,450 --> 00:04:55,190 So what is before you would just need the approval to enter in this agreement so we can take 40 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:56,690 the next steps moving forward. 41 00:04:56,690 --> 00:05:01,410 Thank you, Mr. Chair, and yeah, we're all very happy to have this becoming down. 42 00:05:01,870 --> 00:05:06,630 Streamlining this, we've all had an opportunity looking at the committee years ago 43 00:05:06,630 --> 00:05:10,050 for the West Side Fire Station and appropriate these funds. 44 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:13,070 At this point, I will open it up to the Finance Team. 45 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:17,410 If we had any questions or any Councils have any questions, Council vital. 46 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:18,190 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 47 00:05:19,010 --> 00:05:23,650 This is the first piece of property that since I've become City Councilor, I'm not familiar 48 00:05:23,650 --> 00:05:25,690 I made it with the term friendly eminent domain. 49 00:05:26,490 --> 00:05:31,090 Eminent domain, I always thought was the city wanted it and took it. 50 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:33,050 What is a friendly eminent domain? 51 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:34,490 It means that they agreed to it. 52 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:36,150 We don't have to go to court, basically. 53 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:39,870 So it's just an agreement between the sellers returning and us. 54 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:44,330 So it's a friendly taking rather than us coming and saying we demand this piece of property. 55 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:46,310 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 56 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:47,190 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 57 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:47,910 Thank you, Councillor Vitam. 58 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:50,350 Councillor Orl. 59 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:55,650 Thank you, actually, I asked this question earlier to, it's confusing, excuse me. 60 00:05:55,990 --> 00:06:00,310 It's confusing to see two different numbers in here, and the mayor explained it, but 61 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:04,870 maybe he could explain it for the general public just so they know what we're appropriating 62 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:07,030 versus 4 million versus 5 million. 63 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:11,630 I would ask that maybe the mayor explain what he pretty much explained to me, just so 64 00:06:11,630 --> 00:06:12,950 the general public knows as well. 65 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:19,450 For the formalities, the purchase price of the property and then the $5 million is what we have allocated to actually 66 00:06:19,450 --> 00:06:23,490 for mitigation money that City Council have been able to 67 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:27,910 accumulate over the years to designate to the West Side Fire Station. 68 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:31,610 And if I may, will that account still remain in effect with the 69 00:06:31,610 --> 00:06:35,770 $1 million in there for future costs such as the building costs? 70 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:38,970 That's what you were supposed to vote on. That's why we're changing the verbiage. 71 00:06:39,210 --> 00:06:42,290 So it will be allocated to a fire station. 72 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:47,710 It's not connected to a specific address as you previously, it is now currently. 73 00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:49,210 Thank you for the clarification. 74 00:06:50,230 --> 00:06:50,870 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 75 00:06:51,030 --> 00:06:54,030 Councillor, do you say that? 76 00:06:55,330 --> 00:06:56,490 Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. 77 00:06:56,670 --> 00:07:01,590 Just a general question and procedure, are we going to go through the entire contract page by page 78 00:07:01,590 --> 00:07:03,270 or are we just doing general summaries? 79 00:07:04,030 --> 00:07:04,090 No. 80 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:04,910 Okay. 81 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:06,510 Thank you for that. 82 00:07:06,650 --> 00:07:07,230 I appreciate that. 83 00:07:07,890 --> 00:07:11,430 I just figured that some of the things that we've kind of seen on some of the other things 84 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,710 before that we really didn't have to go through the total agreement. 85 00:07:15,250 --> 00:07:16,550 Yeah, no, that's fine. 86 00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:20,010 I do have a couple of questions, so I just wasn't concerned about the process of that. 87 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:21,210 So I appreciate the clarification. 88 00:07:22,190 --> 00:07:23,670 Just a couple of things. 89 00:07:24,990 --> 00:07:31,470 One of the things I noticed is in a couple of sections of the contract, items are eliminated, right? 90 00:07:33,130 --> 00:07:34,970 Intentionally omitted, I think is the appropriate term. 91 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:36,470 Why is that so? 92 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:46,990 Sure. Through the chair. So sometimes when you're going back and forth, negotiating an agreement, which has many paragraphs and an order, you know, A, B, C, one, two, three, four, numbering system. 93 00:07:47,790 --> 00:07:54,470 Rather than, and let's say as particular sentence is just coming out, there's not going to be whatever section D anymore. 94 00:07:55,050 --> 00:08:04,910 A lot of times you'll see it'll just, rather than re-number everything and watching out for references within internally to the document, just put the phrase intentionally omitted. 95 00:08:04,910 --> 00:08:09,970 Okay, okay, so the biggest argument point and many of these was intentionally admitted, which is fun 96 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:18,690 Is this something that is going to be cleared for the last version to get rid of those or is it is the final draft? 97 00:08:19,330 --> 00:08:20,930 Continued to have intentionally admitted 98 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:26,190 Do you sure so the final draft will have it as you see it and that's it. That's common. Yeah, okay 99 00:08:27,850 --> 00:08:32,610 The other question I had specifically was with item 19 100 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:37,070 and just to be clear, I'm in total support of this. 101 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:41,430 So this is, this is, you know, just going now, trying to get clarification. 102 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:49,270 But city agrees not to record this agreement or any memoriam, and there are at any registered 103 00:08:49,270 --> 00:08:54,850 deeds and owners option, any tent recordage of one of this agreement, Ellen Boyd, in owner's 104 00:08:54,850 --> 00:08:55,450 sole discretion. 105 00:08:57,050 --> 00:09:00,230 I thought when we purchased it, we have to record it, so what's going on here? 106 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:10,070 Sure, so what that paragraph is saying is this actual agreement itself would not get recorded at the registry of deeds, and that's pretty common, right? 107 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:16,710 But the actual, the order of taking that would transfer ownership that will get recorded at the registry. 108 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:22,190 Okay, so it would be a separate document that actually does the recording in the deeds, not this contract. 109 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:22,650 Correct. 110 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:25,990 Okay, thank you for that, that actually makes it much clearer. 111 00:09:28,050 --> 00:09:33,110 And it's for the first time, I just want to make a comment, I've never seen a reference in party three, 112 00:09:33,810 --> 00:09:37,750 sorry, section three into section seven, jumping ahead like that. 113 00:09:37,950 --> 00:09:47,970 But in section seven, what would those, the owner representations that the owner is full powered 114 00:09:47,970 --> 00:09:52,310 of attorney, this is just regular boilerplate 115 00:09:52,310 --> 00:09:54,550 that came up as far as contracts and agreements. 116 00:09:56,050 --> 00:09:57,290 For section seven. 117 00:09:57,630 --> 00:09:57,770 Yes. 118 00:09:58,490 --> 00:10:00,650 Some of those are pretty common that you would see. 119 00:10:00,890 --> 00:10:02,270 Other of those have been negotiated 120 00:10:02,270 --> 00:10:03,990 as part of this transaction. 121 00:10:04,330 --> 00:10:06,610 There are things, representations are things 122 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:09,090 that the owner is putting on the record essentially 123 00:10:09,090 --> 00:10:10,510 going into the transaction. 124 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:12,590 Okay, okay, okay. 125 00:10:12,970 --> 00:10:13,590 That's great. 126 00:10:14,050 --> 00:10:14,930 Thank you for the clarification. 127 00:10:14,930 --> 00:10:16,130 I do appreciate that. 128 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:25,910 I just had questions about, now you said you're going to do diligence to test the land, test the soil. 129 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:31,950 If something is found that cannot easily be remediated, would that cancel the sale? 130 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:44,030 Yes, so the city would have the option to review the situation at that point in the 60-day period, so it depends obviously on the details of what that would be. 131 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:46,970 Thank you, thank you, Council. 132 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:52,710 Any further questions for the finance committee, Mr. President? 133 00:10:53,490 --> 00:10:59,170 So, I just want to expand on what Council Orham mentioned in the vote that the council is taking. 134 00:10:59,430 --> 00:11:05,990 So, the changing of the order for the $5 million, if you recall, in 2022, we authorized the prior 135 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:12,590 administration, a land acquisition of $5 million to purchase 100 lock drive. 136 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:19,450 And we've been carrying that in our capital account forever since 2022, all right. 137 00:11:19,890 --> 00:11:28,290 So the discussions with the mayor and the solicitor and the finance team in order to make it appropriate to now, 138 00:11:28,530 --> 00:11:36,990 we don't want 100, we're now going to pursue 40 lock drive and that lot works, the price is less. 139 00:11:36,990 --> 00:11:42,130 So the reason that portion of the orders before you is to say that $5 million 140 00:11:42,130 --> 00:11:49,310 that was dedicated to 100 lock drive is not going to be dedicated to buying westside 141 00:11:49,310 --> 00:11:53,110 fire station somewhere, which is good. 142 00:11:53,510 --> 00:11:57,230 In this particular case, if this all works out, that's an additional $1 million 143 00:11:57,230 --> 00:12:06,050 that would come under, all right, but it will allow the mayor and his team to do design 144 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:08,690 nine work, other things without having to come back to the council. 145 00:12:09,690 --> 00:12:14,630 Separate from that mitigation money that we've been tucking away, 146 00:12:15,130 --> 00:12:20,730 the West Side Fire Station mitigation account has almost $4 million in it. 147 00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:27,550 And that's from Green District, phases one and two, that's about $2.8 million. 148 00:12:28,590 --> 00:12:34,490 Feson Hill retirement community, $1 million was not drive $50,000 pending. 149 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:38,150 And in other words, projects that we've approved, but they haven't broke ground yet. 150 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:41,310 Because remember, just because we approve a project doesn't mean it's going to get built. 151 00:12:41,930 --> 00:12:49,370 We've got the other two buildings at Lizard Drive, once for $63,000 and once for $74,000. 152 00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:55,650 We have the $74,000 one, but it's in that quasi state before free cash is certified. 153 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:57,830 So we'll see that once free cash gets certified. 154 00:12:58,470 --> 00:13:02,570 Green district, phase is three and four, that's an additional $600,000 each. 155 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:08,070 So that's $1.3 million more that's coming into that West Side Stabilization account. 156 00:13:08,290 --> 00:13:12,590 So go $4 million plus $1.3, or up to $5.3 million, okay? 157 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:22,170 The AIMS Forestry Project had $90,000 coming in, but it's in court right now. 158 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:25,350 So we may not see that, depending on how the court case goes. 159 00:13:26,190 --> 00:13:32,030 Other projects that are before us, the campus rezoning, the Forestry Residential Ovalay, 160 00:13:32,030 --> 00:13:35,970 Those are all opportunities to put more money to the west side fire station 161 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:44,750 So again, we're talking the fire station bond will be about 35 million dollars. It's gonna it won't be 35 million dollars 162 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:47,450 I'll tell you that right now. It'll be something around there 163 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:52,070 All right, that impact is gonna be a hundred forty five dollars per year to the additional 164 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:54,370 To the average taxpayer 165 00:13:54,970 --> 00:14:01,970 All right, but right now before us what we want to be able to do is like we can none of that matters if we don't buy a parcel land and build a 166 00:14:01,970 --> 00:14:22,170 So I encourage the finance committee to approve the Mayas Order, which does two things, allows the Mayas to proceed to finalize the purchase and sale agreement, do all they do diligence, and change the order that fixes it from 100 lock drive to basically buy staff associated with a Westside Fire Station. 167 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:26,610 You have two chunks of money, five million, which is really a land acquisition and the next 168 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:30,310 or a million for what the May is going to do, and then the stabilization account that has 169 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:36,450 currently four million with 1.3 pending coming, assuming May build, and then who knows what else 170 00:14:36,450 --> 00:14:39,690 if the other projects come forward and what the appetite of the council is for mitigation, 171 00:14:40,330 --> 00:14:45,770 even more money. That would be used to offset the bond for the fire station, which is good. 172 00:14:46,190 --> 00:14:51,590 I mean, we've been doing our homework slowly trying to chip away because at $145 per year, 173 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:55,050 There's not assuming any of that money gets applied to reduce the bond. 174 00:14:55,830 --> 00:14:59,910 So that's good news, but again, I encourage the Finance Committee. 175 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,920 To look favorable on the mayor's order, which again, does those two things, allows the mayor to go ahead and finalize the purchase and sale, and change the order. The mayor will be coming back to us for authorizing of the taking, and in order that actually transfers money to buy the parcel, assuming the council and the due diligence goes in the favor that the city is hoping for. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Would we ask for if this goes through, would we ask for a suspension for 176 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,580 the next meeting? 177 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,680 I mean, I'll look to the mayor, but I think that would be appropriate because the timing is 178 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,300 to get this move. 179 00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:40,200 Again, remember, the goal was to get this done before the end of the year, so we can start the 180 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,380 design phase and get the fire station moving, because, again, you're talking building a project, 181 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:54,180 and a building takes 18 to 24 months, so these tax impacts, as two years plus down the road, 182 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,480 One of the ban Ryan comes up with, but it's still a ways away. 183 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:05,140 But as the mayor said, this is a big step to get, I was going to say, massive. 184 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:06,720 Step is at the end of the day. 185 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,360 This is big, because until we find a spot to put it, we can't do anything. 186 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,240 So that's why it's key. 187 00:16:12,140 --> 00:16:14,060 Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. President, for that information. 188 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,680 Council vital, and then I'll go to councilor. 189 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:17,720 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 190 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:24,160 I'd like to make a motion to allow the mayor the sum of $4,000,000,000 to $1,000,000 191 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:30,720 subject to all the terms and conditions that we talked about before in order to purchase the property at 40 log drive. 192 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,700 Could I comment on that? 193 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,620 Yes, absolutely, Mr. President. 194 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:37,700 If you could, Council Vile, just make a motion to approve the order as written by the mayor. 195 00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:38,380 I think that would be simpler. 196 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:39,300 Thank you, and that would be separate. 197 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,660 My main talk, once time, told me that I was a little verbose, so I was trying to keep it small to begin with. 198 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:50,460 But in order to, yes, let's make a motion to approve the motion as a written. 199 00:16:50,460 --> 00:16:58,920 Thank you, because most have been made in second to approve order number 26-109808, 200 00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:04,020 which authorizes the mayor to enter into an agreement to acquire any necessary 201 00:17:04,020 --> 00:17:09,120 interest in the real property known as 40-lock drive, Marble Mass, for municipal 202 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:14,080 purposes, including a new fire station by a friendly and minute domain taking, for 203 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,260 some of $4,000,000, $50,000, subject to the terms and condition of the agreement 204 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:22,600 and any applicable laws and the following conditions. 205 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:34,640 Also, motion to approve the appropriation of 5,092,666 dollars to provide funding for 206 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,940 the acquisition of real property for the new West Side Fire Station, including any and all damages, 207 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:46,920 services costs relating there too, and any design construction costs associated with the new West Side Fire Station. 208 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:56,460 and to meet set appropriation by re-appropriating $5,092,666 dollars currently in land acquisition 209 00:17:56,460 --> 00:18:05,240 account, number 193-0006-58120 to be available for all such purposes. 210 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:08,660 Motion has been made and seconded in any further discussion. 211 00:18:09,220 --> 00:18:11,800 Mr. Chair, earlier you had mentioned that we're going to have two votes. 212 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,160 Is now we're going to combine the two? 213 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:22,160 Yes, so my thinking was that you said approve the order, so that was the order, right, Mr. President? 214 00:18:22,340 --> 00:18:22,600 That's correct. 215 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:23,280 That's correct. 216 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,380 That's correct, Councilor. 217 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:25,180 Thank you. 218 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,340 And thank you. 219 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,280 I was going to actually jump ahead to Councilor Vito, but that's fine. 220 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,560 I was in agreement with exactly what he was asking and motioning. 221 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,560 So I'm all set. 222 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:34,320 Thank you. 223 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,200 The motion has been made in second, no further discussion, all in favor. 224 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,520 One, two, three, four, it carries. 225 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:46,060 I will entertain a motion, and that's okay to have a suspension. 226 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Thank you, carries with a suspension. 227 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,500 With that said, motion, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 228 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,760 You sure you want to adjourn? 229 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,540 It's a summer night, we could stay a little longer. 230 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:56,540 We can talk about things. 231 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,780 Motion to adjourn. 232 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:03,380 Motion is debate and seconded to adjourn, all in favor, one, two, three, four, five. 233 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,680 We are adjourned at 6.49 p.m., thank you. 234 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,140 you find it.