1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,600 Okay, we're going to call the meeting to 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:07,279 order here. I'm told everybody's inside. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,080 I'd like to thank everyone for coming 4 00:00:07,279 --> 00:00:13,280 tonight. Uh your interest in this uh 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,759 project and uh annexation is certainly 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,760 uh appreciated. 7 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:19,600 Uh again, I want to remind everybody to 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,080 please turn off your cell phones. And 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,080 I'm going to turn it over to uh the 10 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:27,920 zoning and planning commission chairman 11 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:30,320 uh Brad Miller to open his meeting. 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,880 » Thanks for coming. Call the meeting to 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,880 order. Uh, roll call, please. Clerk 14 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:38,079 » Brad Miller 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,200 » Here. 16 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:39,840 » Brad Kresto 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,040 » Here. 18 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,840 » Karen Stillwell 19 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,800 » Here. 20 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,600 » Bob Hoggy 21 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,559 » Here. 22 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,440 » Don Weber 23 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:46,480 » Here. 24 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 » Bob Hornbeck 25 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,520 » Here. 26 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,879 » Jim Hanlin. 27 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Corbin Webster 28 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:53,760 » Here. 29 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,640 » Scott Casselli 30 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,840 and Jim Barnes. 31 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,680 » Okay. Okay, at this time I'd like to 32 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,239 turn it over to the plan commission 33 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,840 attorney, Nathan Washburn, 34 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:08,080 for a few things to say. 35 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,960 Good evening. Uh I'm Nathaniel Washburn. 36 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,560 I'm the attorney for uh the Marcel's uh 37 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:15,680 zoning board of appeals and plan 38 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:18,080 commission. Uh as you can see from our 39 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,280 agenda, we do have public comment which 40 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,479 is required for any open meeting uh per 41 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,560 the statute. Uh the plan commission 42 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:29,200 tonight is holding a meeting because 43 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,280 there is a majority of a quorum present 44 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,920 uh and in attendance for the special 45 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,000 meeting of the city council. Uh public 46 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,799 comment is meant for agenda items and 47 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,680 our only agenda item this evening is our 48 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:44,320 own attendance uh at the city council's 49 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,320 special meeting. If anybody would like 50 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,320 to make a comment, they are of course 51 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,520 welcome to. However, any comments for 52 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,680 the annexation or annexation agreement 53 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,240 hearing that is going to be pending 54 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,159 momentarily before the city council uh 55 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,159 would be best reserved for that public 56 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:02,960 hearing so it makes it into the record 57 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:05,200 as the plan commission uh meeting is not 58 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:08,080 going to be directly a part of that 59 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,599 public record for that hearing. Uh but 60 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,599 now would be the opportunity if there 61 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:13,040 was anything specifically for the plan 62 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:15,360 commission meeting if anybody wanted to 63 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,360 make a public comment. However, I would 64 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,920 reserve that for the public hearing. 65 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Thank you. 66 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:23,680 » Okay. Now, we'll call the special 67 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,080 meeting of the Marcel City Council to 68 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,040 order. Clerk will read a roll. 69 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,840 » Mayor Hollandback 70 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,959 » Here. 71 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,000 » Commissioner Kaminsky 72 00:02:30,959 --> 00:02:32,720 » Here. 73 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,720 » Small 74 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,519 » Here. Sh 75 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,800 » Here. 76 00:02:35,519 --> 00:02:39,800 » Buckingham 77 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,800 » Here. 78 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Okay, with I'm going to turn it over to 79 00:02:46,239 --> 00:02:50,720 our city attorney, Christina Canland, 80 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,480 for uh 81 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,239 opening comments. 82 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,800 » Good afternoon, folks. Thank you 83 00:02:54,239 --> 00:02:59,440 everyone for coming. We have a couple of 84 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,280 housekeeping rules that we're uh going 85 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,360 to share with you tonight. We've got a 86 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,840 full house as you can see. So, I'm going 87 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,720 to run through those uh rules with all 88 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,959 folks here tonight. Any individual who 89 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,280 would like to speak should have checked 90 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:15,760 in upon arriving at the hearing this 91 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,920 afternoon. Speakers will be called in 92 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,200 the order of check-in. However, we added 93 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:23,200 some additional uh check-in sheets. So, 94 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,440 the folks towards uh that checked in 95 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,599 later may be a little out of order. So, 96 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,040 we appreciate your patience. Uh so, 97 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:31,599 please listen for your name when it's 98 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,879 called. The city clerk is going to call 99 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:36,720 up individuals three at a time. 100 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,159 You're going to come to the podium to 101 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,560 speak and you're going to line up 102 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:43,040 against the wall right there to my 103 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,879 immediate left. So, speaker one will 104 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,959 come to the podium when called. Speakers 105 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:49,120 two and three will be in line against 106 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:51,760 the wall. Please keep an appropriate 107 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,560 distance from each speaker. If you did 108 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,040 not check in, but would like to speak, 109 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,560 please quietly proceed back to the back 110 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,599 corner. Katherine will be there to 111 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,519 assist you to get on a signup sheet. All 112 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:06,560 individuals are going to be allowed the 113 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:08,640 opportunity to speak. The goal of this 114 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,519 hearing today is to hear from the 115 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,360 public. Comments must be related to the 116 00:04:11,519 --> 00:04:16,000 matter we are here to discuss this 117 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:19,359 afternoon, which is the annexation of 118 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,959 approximately 716 acres to the city of 119 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:23,280 Marcel. 120 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,360 Any individual making comments not 121 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:27,840 related to the annexation or the 122 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,720 annexation agreement will be requested 123 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:32,639 to return to their seats. 124 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,040 If you agree with comments made by a 125 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:37,520 previous speaker, you can just state 126 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,080 that you agree. We're going to ask that 127 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,240 comments not be repetitive to ensure 128 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,800 that we get through all uh parties who 129 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,199 would like to speak today. 130 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,440 All individuals offering testimony will 131 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:51,280 need to be stand and be sworn at the 132 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,199 beginning of the public hearing. I will 133 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,280 do that uh at the conclusion of the 134 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:57,520 housekeeping rules. 135 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:59,280 All questions for Constellation will be 136 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,320 addressed at the end of the public 137 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:04,639 hearing comment portion of the meeting. 138 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Constellation may consolidate similar 139 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:10,400 questions for a more efficient response. 140 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,560 Constellation will be keeping track uh 141 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,880 and recording all the questions that are 142 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,039 asked from the public. 143 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,360 Following Constellation's answers to all 144 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:21,199 questions, each commissioner will then 145 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,440 have an opportunity to make their own 146 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:24,960 individual comments. 147 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,199 In terms of running an efficient 148 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,199 meeting, it is this council's suggestion 149 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:31,680 to get through everyone that speakers 150 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:34,479 limit their testimony or comments to 151 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,039 five minutes or less. To be clear, this 152 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:38,960 is not a rule. Our goal is just to make 153 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:41,520 sure that every effort is made to have 154 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,520 an efficient and fair process and have 155 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,039 everyone have the opportunity to speak 156 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,960 today. 157 00:05:45,039 --> 00:05:49,199 All comments are being transcribed 158 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,320 verbatim by the court reporter who is 159 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:55,440 with us today. Miss Cisco is sitting in 160 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:58,160 front of us and it is important for the 161 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,039 court reporter that you speak clearly 162 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,759 into the microphone. The court reporter 163 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:06,560 cannot take down multiple conversations 164 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:09,199 at the same time. Please ensure that 165 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,759 only one person speaks at any given 166 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:13,680 time. Also, keep in mind the court 167 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:16,960 reporter cannot take down any hand 168 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,039 gestures or the shaking of a head. The 169 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,240 court reporter also will not take down 170 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:24,800 any outbursts. The court reporter, for 171 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,880 purposes of this transcript, it would be 172 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,600 appreciated if you could state your full 173 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,520 name and spell it so it's accurate in 174 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,000 the record. 175 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,479 The hearing is also being video recorded 176 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,240 and livereamed for any individuals who 177 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:42,000 could not attend the hearing today. 178 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Just a reminder that anyone who is 179 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 watching on the live stream version will 180 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,919 not have the ability to participate. The 181 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,360 only option to participate was to be 182 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:53,520 here in person today. As the mayor 183 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:58,080 suggested, please make sure to silence 184 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:03,120 your phones and we will now uh proceed 185 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:06,000 to uh turn it back over to the mayor. 186 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,759 » Thanks, Christina. Uh Constellation, I 187 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 believe you have some opening statements 188 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:11,000 or comments. 189 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,599 Yes, I'll go ahead and swear. And uh if 190 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,960 everyone who's going to speak, if they 191 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:19,960 could please stand and raise their right 192 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 hand. 193 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,400 And if you're not sure if you're going 194 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,240 to speak, go ahead and stand now and you 195 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,080 can make a a decision to not speak 196 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,400 later. Okay. 197 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,240 » Now, this is the public hearing. 198 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,080 » All right. 199 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Do you solemnly swear that the testimony 200 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,880 you're about to give at this hearing 201 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,759 today be the whole truth and nothing but 202 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,240 the truth? So, help you God. 203 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:43,919 All right. Uh, Miss Cisco, if the record 204 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,880 can reflect that all participants at the 205 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:47,880 public hearing were sworn in. 206 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:05,680 You have a motion to open the hearing. 207 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:08,240 » I'll make a second. 208 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,879 » Any discussion? 209 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,879 » I need a clerk. 210 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,319 » Mayor Hollandbeck. 211 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,479 » Hi, 212 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:19,520 » Commissioner Kaminsky. 213 00:08:18,479 --> 00:08:20,720 » Hi, 214 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 » Small. I 215 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,960 » Sh. 216 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,919 » No. 217 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360 » Buckingham. 218 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:28,840 » Hi. 219 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,840 » We got to get him. 220 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,479 Okay, now I'll turn it over to 221 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,080 Constellation. 222 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:38,560 » Well, good evening everyone and members 223 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,159 of the commission. My name is Ryan Toer 224 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:42,719 and I'm the local government affairs 225 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:44,720 manager for Constellation. With me here 226 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:46,480 is John Van Fleet, the site vice 227 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,200 president of the Lasale Clean Energy 228 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Center, Mike Appington, the director of 229 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,200 commercial project management for 230 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,000 Constellation, and Greg Smith, our 231 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,519 outside legal counsel. Constellation is 232 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,040 thrilled to appear before the city 233 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,640 council this evening to discuss an 234 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,560 annexation agreement to bring 235 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:07,760 approximately 175 acres of constellation 236 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:09,839 owned land into the city of Marcels. 237 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,640 The agreement represents a partnership 238 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:15,519 between the city and constellation for 239 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:18,080 economic growth. The annexation of this 240 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:20,480 property represents a once- in a 241 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,720 generation opportunity for the city to 242 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,320 achieve multiple goals, including 243 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,959 growing its boundaries south of the 244 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,279 Illinois River, securing new revenue 245 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:31,920 sources, creating good paying, 246 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:33,920 highquality jobs, and putting rules of 247 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,839 the road in place for development of 248 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,920 these opportunities. 249 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:40,640 Tonight, we will explain our company's 250 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,880 progrowth strategy, the development of 251 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,880 an emerging technology district that 252 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,519 creates the opportunity for economic 253 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,680 development while protecting the local 254 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:52,399 community in the financial safeguards 255 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,040 for the city of Marcels. I would like to 256 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:57,200 now introduce John Van Fleet, site vice 257 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,200 president of the Lauo Clean Energy 258 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,200 Center. 259 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Good evening. As Ryan said, my name is 260 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,880 John Van Fleet and I'm the site vice 261 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,279 president at the Lasale Clean Energy 262 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Center. It's an honor to be before you 263 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:20,560 tonight. Many of you have family, 264 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:23,360 friends, and neighbors who have or 265 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:25,040 currently work at our nuclear station. 266 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Every day, the two boiling water 267 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:31,200 reactors in Lasal County produce a 268 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,800 combined 2320 megawws of zero emission 269 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,760 electricity. 270 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Over 725 men and women work every day at 271 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,560 our station. This includes professional 272 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,640 and union employees. 273 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,480 At one time, under previous ownership, 274 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,959 the Illinois nuclear fleet was at risk 275 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,600 of closing, but that is no longer the 276 00:10:46,959 --> 00:10:51,680 case. We are a progrowth business under 277 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,079 new ownership and in order to guarantee 278 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:56,240 long-term operation of our facility, 279 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:59,279 we're becoming a clean energy center 280 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,440 rather than just a nuclear station. Our 281 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:03,519 growth protects trade and craft jobs and 282 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,600 renews our commitment to the community. 283 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:08,320 This community is important to me and my 284 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,320 colleagues. I grew up within 20 miles of 285 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,640 the plant. My father-in-law worked at 286 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,399 our plant for over 30 years. I've been 287 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,720 able to provide for my family by working 288 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:18,560 at the plant for 20 years. We have 289 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,480 refurbished and improved over a 100 290 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:23,040 homes in the area in conjunction with 291 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,519 the United Way. We provide scholarships 292 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,399 to Ottawa, Senica, and Streeter schools 293 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:30,640 and support local food pantries. 294 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:33,120 But most importantly, every day we 295 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,200 produce clean and reliable energy 24 296 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,680 hours a day while maintaining excellence 297 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,519 and safety and operations. I'll now turn 298 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:41,200 it over to my colleagues Mike Appington 299 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,120 and Greg Smith so they can discuss the 300 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,680 annexation agreement and community 301 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,680 economic benefits. 302 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,680 Good evening. I'm Michael Appington. I'm 303 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:54,160 a director of commercial project 304 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:55,519 management for Constellation. Uh thank 305 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,000 the city council and the planning 306 00:11:55,519 --> 00:12:00,720 commission for considering our request 307 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,360 tonight. Constellation acquired several 308 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,839 properties south of the Illinois River 309 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,240 due to their proximity to Lasal's Clean 310 00:12:05,839 --> 00:12:10,959 Energy Center and the potential to 311 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,440 develop these with compatible uses. We 312 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:15,839 are proposing to annex these properties 313 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,800 totaling over a square mile into the 314 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:21,680 city so that we can market to and 315 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,360 attract customers. 316 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,600 The vicinity of these properties to 317 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Lasal Clean Energy Center allows 318 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,720 constellation to pursue development in 319 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,440 partnership with the city and regional 320 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,160 community. Also, the location of these 321 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:39,279 parcels near to the nuclear station 322 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,880 provide security and increase operations 323 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:42,720 standards. 324 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,680 Constellation has always viewed itself 325 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,160 as part of the community. To this end, 326 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,639 we discussed annexation with the city 327 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:53,279 and listened to what the city said. That 328 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:55,519 development should protect our smalltown 329 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:58,079 way of life, that the city must be 330 00:12:55,519 --> 00:13:00,720 financially protected, that no tiff 331 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:03,120 district be used in financing, and that 332 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,120 the city would like to avoid significant 333 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,959 financial risks. 334 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,920 The annexation agreement before city 335 00:13:06,959 --> 00:13:12,079 council achieves all of these goals and 336 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,480 includes development provisions and 337 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:16,800 incentives which are necessary for 338 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,200 constellation to obtain customers for 339 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,440 the development of this land. 340 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,720 The reality is that Constellation, 341 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,839 Marcel, and Lasel County are competing 342 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,920 with other states, counties, and cities 343 00:13:27,839 --> 00:13:32,720 to attract development in the vicinity 344 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,279 of large volumes of clean, carbon-f 345 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,720 free, and reliable electricity. 346 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,360 Other nearby states and other 347 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,040 municipalities in Illinois 348 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,200 are working very hard to attract 349 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,440 businesses that will bring investment 350 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,519 and job creation. 351 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,160 But we want economic development in 352 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:52,959 Lasal County and near our station to 353 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,760 ensure operations for decades to come at 354 00:13:52,959 --> 00:13:57,440 Lasal Clean Energy Center. We also want 355 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,839 to improve the region's economic 356 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,760 opportunities through partnership and 357 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:03,360 planned growth. 358 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,000 While we do not currently have a 359 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,839 customer for this property, it is 360 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,800 essential for our potential customers to 361 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:13,360 know the community is open for business 362 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,160 and understand that the rules what the 363 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,079 rules will be when they get here. 364 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,120 The annexation agreement makes this 365 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:22,120 location more competitive. 366 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,399 Thank you. I'll turn it over to Greg 367 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Smith, our outside council constellation 368 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:31,639 to summarize the key terms of our 369 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,639 annexation agreement. 370 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,079 Thank you. I'm an attorney with the law 371 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,000 firm Elrod Friedman and outside legal 372 00:14:38,079 --> 00:14:41,920 counsel for Constellation in this 373 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,600 matter. Thank you all for being here 374 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,839 this afternoon. As Ryan, John, and Mike 375 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:51,120 have indicated, Constellation has agreed 376 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:54,240 to bring approximately 715 acres of its 377 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,079 property into the city of Marcel. 378 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,760 Constellation is willing to do so 379 00:14:56,079 --> 00:15:00,320 because the city commits in the 380 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,839 annexation agreement to amend its 381 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,320 comprehensive plan to encourage 382 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:06,639 development of emerging technology uses 383 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,399 on Constellation's properties and 384 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:10,880 because the city will amend its zoning 385 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:13,199 code to create a new emerging technology 386 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,120 zoning district to allow for development 387 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:18,079 of uses including electronics 388 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,440 manufacturing, storage facilities, 389 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:24,959 fabricating uses, data centers, research 390 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:27,199 and laboratory facilities, offices 391 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:28,800 and power generation. 392 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:30,399 These are critically important terms 393 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,320 which set the table for future 394 00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:34,959 development and they were negotiated 395 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,199 with the city to to be the rules of the 396 00:15:34,959 --> 00:15:38,800 road for the development of this 397 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:40,720 property. 398 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:44,079 The agreement calls for consolation to 399 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:46,880 pay the city $10 million over five years 400 00:15:44,079 --> 00:15:50,079 with payments of $3 million in years 401 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,320 both one and two, $2 million paid in 402 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:55,120 year three, and additional payments of 403 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:57,120 $1 million in years four and five, with 404 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:01,360 deductions in the final two years for 405 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,959 property taxes and utility taxes paid. 406 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,959 These payments by constellation 407 00:16:02,959 --> 00:16:07,600 demonstrate its willingness to invest in 408 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:09,360 Mars sales, provide a significant new 409 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,160 revenue source for the city to achieve 410 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,839 its goals, and to meet the city's desire 411 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,880 to be financially benefited by the 412 00:16:13,839 --> 00:16:19,199 annexation of these properties. 413 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,759 Along those lines, the agreement also 414 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:24,399 places responsibility on Constellation 415 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:27,040 to pay for water extensions and sewer 416 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:29,680 extensions necessary to serve the 417 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,000 development. Constellation will also pay 418 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,680 for the relocation of a portion of 419 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,199 2553rd 420 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Road should relocation be desired. 421 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:40,560 Again, these terms show that 422 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Constellation is a good partner to the 423 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,720 city by taking on costs of public 424 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,880 improvements that would otherwise be 425 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,800 paid by the city. 426 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,839 The agreement also includes a list of 427 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:54,480 building codes requirements agreed upon 428 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:56,959 which are primarily 2024 international 429 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,680 codes applicable across large portions 430 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:02,320 of the state and elsewhere which will 431 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,920 regulate future development. Most of the 432 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,679 codes that the development on this 433 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,839 property will be subject to are more 434 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:10,160 upto-date than the city's on the books 435 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:13,199 codes meaning that development will meet 436 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,039 even newer standards. Relatedly, the 437 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:17,360 agreement also includes agreed upon 438 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:19,919 building permit fee of 23 cents per 439 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:21,919 square foot for tenants improvements and 440 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:25,120 requires reimbursement of the city's 441 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:27,520 third-party costs for plan and permit 442 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:30,000 reviews. Again, these terms shift 443 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:33,039 financial obligations off the city and 444 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,720 onto the development itself. 445 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,640 The agreement has the city and 446 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,720 constellation entering into rebate 447 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,640 agreements with respect to property 448 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,720 taxes, utility taxes, and sales taxes. A 449 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,919 rebate would only be given by the city 450 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:51,039 if it receives these new revenues um 451 00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:53,360 from the development for property taxes. 452 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:56,480 The rebate would only be paid after the 453 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:59,280 city receives $2.5 million a year of 454 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,080 property taxes in a given year with that 455 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:05,360 amount increased by a 3% compounding 456 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,200 factor annually. For utility taxes, the 457 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:09,760 rebate would only begin after the city 458 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:12,400 receives $5 million of utility tax 459 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:16,240 revenue with that base amount also being 460 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,160 increased by 3% compounding annually. 461 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:23,120 For sales taxes, the city would split 462 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:25,120 them 75% to 25% up to a cap of $1.2 463 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:28,400 million. Again, with that cap 464 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:30,240 compounding at the same 3% annual rate, 465 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,480 with the amount over the cap being fully 466 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,320 rebated to constellation, 467 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,880 the rebates would be in effect for 40 468 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,799 years. That term is long enough to allow 469 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,480 for the design, construction, and ramp 470 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:42,960 up of new development on these 471 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,559 properties and to last for most of the 472 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,240 useful life of the constructed 473 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:48,080 buildings. 474 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,760 Constellation received feedback that 475 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,679 incentives for this length of time are 476 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,240 key to attracting development interest 477 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:56,080 that has not otherwise occurred. The 478 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,679 structure of the rebates demonstrates 479 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,640 Constellation's willingness to partner 480 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:02,799 with the city as only new city taxes 481 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,039 will be rebated and as the city will 482 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:07,520 keep a significant portion of the new 483 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:09,200 taxes for itself allowing it to further 484 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,840 enjoy the economic benefits of 485 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,520 development of the property. Finally, 486 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,000 the annexation agreement itself will 487 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:21,080 have a term of 20 years as allowed by 488 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,080 law. I'll now turn back to Ryan Toer. 489 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:26,240 Thanks, Greg. So, to put this all into 490 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,799 perspective, this agreed to annexation 491 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,120 package creates economic development and 492 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:33,520 growth in the regional community while 493 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:36,240 providing constellation energy a 494 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,080 competitive edge to attract customers 495 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,799 who demand speed to market for 496 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:44,160 themselves. There is no financial risk 497 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:47,679 for the city. At worst, the city obtains 498 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:50,559 $10 million and brings 715 acres into 499 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:52,799 its borders. The proposed agreement does 500 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:56,559 not require the city to spend any money 501 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:58,080 or take any risk. Before closing, I do 502 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:01,039 want to address a series of questions 503 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:04,080 that I've been recently asked. First, 504 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:06,799 one question I have received is, are you 505 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,559 building a data center? The answer is 506 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:10,960 while these terms do allow for 507 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:14,640 development of a data center, it does 508 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:17,280 also allow for other industries. We 509 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,919 currently do not have a customer. Let me 510 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,760 repeat that. We do not have a customer, 511 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:24,640 but this annexation gives us a 512 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,240 competitive advantage for attracting a 513 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,400 customer that would bring a significant 514 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,120 job and investment. 515 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Second, will this raise local energy 516 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:37,679 prices? Like you, I have seen my monthly 517 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,080 energy bills go up. Unfortunately, that 518 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:42,159 is something we cannot control. Over the 519 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,200 past two decades, the cost of creating 520 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:47,919 electricity, also called generation, has 521 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,240 remained relatively flat. The cost of 522 00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:52,080 electricity delivery delivered to homes 523 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,120 and businesses is not controlled by 524 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,919 constellation energy. However, the cost 525 00:20:55,120 --> 00:21:01,039 of delivery or distribution has greatly 526 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:03,520 increased. And then lastly, how will 527 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:05,440 Constellation protect the community? 528 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Constellation Energy has purchased a 529 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,559 large swath of land so that wetlands 530 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,559 near the river can be protected and BMS 531 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:15,200 and other environmental attributes can 532 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:18,720 be created to provide screenings and 533 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,480 buffers to the development. In closing, 534 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,559 I want to thank the city council and 535 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,039 planning commission for holding this 536 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:27,039 hearing. Constellation is committed to 537 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:29,679 this community and a strong partnership 538 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:32,159 that will bring jobs and generational 539 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:33,520 development to our city. Our team looks 540 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:35,360 forward to listening to public 541 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,600 discussion and concluding with answers 542 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:40,840 at the end of the special city meeting. 543 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Thank you. 544 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,880 » You done? Okay. 545 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,360 Excuse me. I'll now ask our clerk to 546 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,200 call the first uh person to testify and 547 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,960 we'll have two on deck along the wall, 548 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,840 please. 549 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,640 » First, we have Joe Bruno, 550 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:06,919 then Karen Stillwell, 551 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,919 and third will be Larry Cowi. 552 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,640 Joe. 553 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 » Joe, you're up. If you want to talk. 554 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,360 » Not now. 555 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:26,520 » Oh, not now. 556 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:26,520 » Okay. Uh, then I guess Karen, you're up. 557 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:36,400 » After Larry, we'll do Carrie Harrow. 558 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:38,240 » Make sure she's hot. 559 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:44,880 » My name is Karen. 560 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:47,760 K A R E N S T I L L W L. I'm a member of 561 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,880 the planning commission and the zoning 562 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:54,240 board of appeals. I volunteered in those 563 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,480 positions for many years. Um actually 564 00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:01,679 Patty Smith was our mayor at the time. 565 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Some of you may not even know Patty. Um, 566 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:09,840 my history with Marcel's goes back to 567 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:12,080 the early 1900s. My great-grandfather 568 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,440 came here from Wales. 569 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,679 My grandmother at age two was never 570 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,559 allowed to speak Welsh. You're an 571 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:22,000 American, you speak English. 572 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:24,000 That's kind of my history and how I've 573 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,080 been raised. 574 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,440 I've lived in Marcel's all of my life, 575 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,880 although part of it was out in the 576 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:34,480 country on a farm. still Marc sales. 577 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,200 I've seen opportunities pass our small 578 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,919 community by more times than I'd like to 579 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,159 think about. We have a wonderful 580 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:44,400 community. We have wonderful people. We 581 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:48,480 have great leaders. 582 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:50,480 This opportunity, the constellation is 583 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,760 served up on a silver platter. I want to 584 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,159 thank them for that. Um I see an 585 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,760 opportunity for a lot of jobs, for 586 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:59,280 growth. 587 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,559 We're not going to become an urban 588 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:05,200 center by any means, but our our town is 589 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:07,360 going to get an opportunity to grow. 590 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,919 Our young people may stick around. 591 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:12,919 Wouldn't that be wonderful? 592 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:12,919 Um, 593 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,679 we've seen nothing but but good things 594 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,000 come from Constellation, from the power 595 00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:25,520 plant. Uh, my children were raised on 596 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:28,320 that money. My husband was there in 79 597 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,520 when there were only some 598 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,080 bu beams that looked really scary to me. 599 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,400 Um, 600 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,600 couple things that I do and I may be out 601 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:42,000 of turn. If I am, forgive me. Some 602 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,840 things that I've heard 603 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,440 some of the some of the information that 604 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,919 was given to the planning commission and 605 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,440 to this the council members got up on 606 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:51,760 Facebook. Everything gets on Facebook 607 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,039 somehow. And there were some questions 608 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,440 about foyer requests. 609 00:24:55,039 --> 00:25:00,080 I've read this. I've spoken to some of 610 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,440 the attorneys and my understanding, and 611 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,559 I just want you to correct me if I'm 612 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:07,440 wrong, that if there is a foyer request, 613 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:10,799 you're asking us to forward it to to 614 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,120 your financial your your legal people 615 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:15,120 because you have proprietary 616 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,880 information, you have safety 617 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,600 information, 618 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,720 you have patented information. I'm sure 619 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:26,799 that no corporation on the planet would 620 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:31,039 want handed out to 621 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:32,799 anyone. Am I correct? That's why there's 622 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:36,279 that paragraph in our information 623 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,279 regarding FOYA. 624 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,919 » Okay, Karen, I think they're going to 625 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,440 take note of the questions. They're 626 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:42,799 going to answer them all toward the end 627 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,559 so we can move along. 628 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:49,960 » Okay, I I'll stop. Thank you much and 629 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,960 welcome to Marcel's 630 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,240 » Larry. 631 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:16,720 My name is Larry Cowie. C O W IE. I have 632 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,120 been a resident of Marcel for over 50 633 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,880 years. I'm addressing you this evening 634 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,039 to voice my support for the annexation 635 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,799 of property by constellation energy 636 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:27,279 generation. 637 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:30,400 The city of Marcel's residents based on 638 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:33,120 2024 EAV numbers are responsible for 639 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,960 approximately 74% of the property taxes 640 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:38,159 paid to the city. 641 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:41,520 13% are paid by properties classified as 642 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:43,840 commercial and 12% are paid by those 643 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,159 classified as industrial. 644 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,640 By contrast, the Marcel's Fire 645 00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:50,799 Protection District, which encompasses 646 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,120 only half of Constellation's Lasal 647 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:57,120 Generating Station, has a residential 648 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:58,720 property tax contribution of 28%. 649 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:01,679 And an industrial property tax 650 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,400 contribution of 63%. 651 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:06,400 Senica Fire, who has the other half of 652 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,520 the generating station, has a 653 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:12,320 residential burden of 17%. Senica High 654 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,120 School, which has all of it, 13% and 655 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,200 Senica grade 10%. 656 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,120 This is not to imply that the proposed 657 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,760 developments would be on the scale of 658 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,440 the nuclear generating station, but to 659 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,400 illustrate the value of diversifying the 660 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,159 tax base. A taxing body relying 661 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,679 predominantly on residential property 662 00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:33,520 taxes is not sustainable. 663 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:35,919 If there were to be a $10 million 664 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,240 increase in the taxable EAV of the 665 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:40,640 industrial commercial tax base of the 666 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,559 city of Marcel, it would result in a 667 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,159 decrease in the residential tax burden 668 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:48,159 by 7% to 67%. 669 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:51,760 By comparison, the city of Ottawa's 670 00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:54,240 residential tax burden is now 6 72%. 671 00:27:51,760 --> 00:28:00,240 Lal is 67%, 672 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:02,399 Peru 56%, Udica 51% and Menota 63%. 673 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,960 The common complaint is that the taxes 674 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:07,679 in our sales are too high. But looking 675 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,440 at these numbers, you can see that the 676 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:11,440 high taxes are not caused by outofc 677 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,880 control spending by government bodies, 678 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,399 but by the fact that the burden is 679 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,399 carried by the residents. 680 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:20,799 I have no idea what the value of the 681 00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:22,799 proposed developments will be, but I 682 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:25,279 think it's a safe bet that they will be 683 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,799 substantial. 684 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,799 I have seen some public comments 685 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:31,600 critical of the tax rebate included in 686 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:33,440 the annexation agreement. The way I read 687 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120 it and was confirmed by the gentleman 688 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,799 earlier, this would kick in if the 689 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:39,840 city's portion of the tax bill for the 690 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:42,559 development exceeds $2.5 million. 691 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,600 I was curious as to what EAV and levy 692 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:48,320 combination would trigger that rebate. I 693 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:52,159 did some quick back of the napkin math 694 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:55,760 here and using 2024 EAV numbers and the 695 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:57,600 city's 2024 levy of 1.9 million. If the 696 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,559 city were to double their tax levy to 697 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:04,000 3.8 million, it would take a development 698 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:07,120 EAV of $166 million to trigger the 699 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:11,039 rebate. If that would happen, the 700 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:14,559 residential burden would then be 26%. 701 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:17,679 and my city tax would go from $921 702 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:19,440 to 627. 703 00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:22,399 If the city would only levy one and a 704 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:25,520 half times of the 2024 levy or 2.8 705 00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:28,320 million, the EAV of the development 706 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,880 would have to be just over 500 million 707 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,960 and the burden on residents would be 11% 708 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:37,520 and my city tax would be $24. 709 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,480 If they left the levy the same at 1.9 710 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,000 million, technically they could pay at 711 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,960 all 712 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,600 regardless of the EAV 713 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,120 and not reach the trigger. 714 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,360 This last one would never happen, but 715 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,440 it's kind of interesting to think about. 716 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Um, how much the city levies and what 717 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,279 the EAV of the development would be is 718 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,720 unknown at this time, but it's easy to 719 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,640 see that it would take a lot for that 720 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,520 rebate rebate to kick in. So, it's kind 721 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,000 of a non-issue. 722 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,240 Unfortunately, this increase in EAV will 723 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,799 not have a direct impact on the Marcel's 724 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Elementary District. But let's look at 725 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:15,919 the reasons why. The most obvious reason 726 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,760 why is because that property is not in 727 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:19,120 the boundaries of the school district. 728 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,559 But let me explain a little bit of 729 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,080 history. Prior to 1952, 730 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,600 the children who lived in the vicinity 731 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,240 of the current nuclear power station 732 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,480 attended Marcel's High School. 733 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,559 At some point, the school administration 734 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,240 had a choice. create a high school 735 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:36,240 district or become a unit school 736 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,640 district of both grade and high schools 737 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,120 with the boundaries roughly equal to 738 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,159 that of the existing city boundaries. 739 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,840 They chose the latter. Senica chose the 740 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:47,600 former. 741 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,559 We all know how that decision has worked 742 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,399 out. This is not to cast dispersions on 743 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:55,600 the school administration of the time, 744 00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:57,679 but to highlight the missed opportunity. 745 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,520 They couldn't see the future, but they 746 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:01,840 felt secure in the fact that we had a 747 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,720 thriving town. Nabiscoco was here. 748 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,039 Certainted was here. PDM Steel was here 749 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,440 and others. 750 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,440 They're now all gone. 751 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600 No one can predict the future, but 752 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,279 passing on an opportunity guarantees you 753 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,760 won't be able to benefit from it in the 754 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:20,399 future. Think about how that one 755 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,840 decision denied an opportunity. An 756 00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:23,200 opportunity that would have most likely 757 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,279 changed the fortunes of the school 758 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,799 district, literally and figuratively. 759 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,720 Much has also been said about the 760 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:33,360 general terms of the agreement and the 761 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,120 city should be calling the shots. 762 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,600 I have had the good fortune for the last 763 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,760 36 years to be a witness to the 764 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,840 relationship between a local taxing body 765 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,919 that includes the nuclear power station 766 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,559 and constellation energy and their 767 00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:48,880 predecessors. I have found the companies 768 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:51,840 to be fair in their offerings. They 769 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,559 understand they will pay taxes. 770 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,840 They have no problem paying taxes. They 771 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,880 just want to make sure they don't get 772 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:02,240 taken advantage of. They want to be good 773 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,679 corporate citizens. Let them be. Take a 774 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,480 look at the surrounding taxing bodies 775 00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:08,480 that rely on them for their tax revenue. 776 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,960 They seem to be doing okay, living under 777 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,320 similar terms to what is proposed here. 778 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,399 From what I have outlined this 779 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000 afternoon, it is crystal clear the 780 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:19,679 positive benefits the annexation and 781 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,240 development of this property will have 782 00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:24,559 to the residents of the city. I'm a 783 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,000 realist and this development is going to 784 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,919 happen whether here or somewhere else. 785 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,320 Any of the purported negative effects on 786 00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:33,919 consumers may still happen, but why 787 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:38,279 should we not receive the substantial 788 00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:38,279 benefits of it on the other side? 789 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:44,960 You all were elected by the residents of 790 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,600 Marcel to represent them in matters 791 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:50,399 pertaining to the operation of the city. 792 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,159 There are tried andrue processes in 793 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:54,720 place which give you the tools and 794 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:56,640 knowledge to make decisions. You have a 795 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,519 responsibility and an obligation to be 796 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,760 an active participant in those pro 797 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,840 processes. While you most certainly can 798 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,919 and should solicit solicit feedback from 799 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,480 the citizens as we are blessed to be 800 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:10,480 doing this evening, how you vote is up 801 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,559 to you. 802 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,960 You need to put emotions aside, have 803 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,720 vision, 804 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,120 and base your decisions on what is best 805 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,600 for the future of the city, even if that 806 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,159 decision may go against what you 807 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,240 perceive as popular opinion. You aren't 808 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:27,840 here to get reelected. 809 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,880 You are here to put the city on a course 810 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,880 of success. It's your fiduciary duty and 811 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,960 moral obligation to do so. As a council 812 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,559 member, 813 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,080 one of you has publicly stated your 814 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:41,120 intention to vote no this evening on 815 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,120 this proposal. A no vote or abstaining 816 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,440 this evening can and will be considered 817 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,159 an egregious violation of your fiduciary 818 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,640 responsibilities and moral obligation to 819 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:52,240 the residents of the city of Marcel and 820 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,559 call into question your commitment to 821 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,320 the future of this great city and how 822 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:59,519 serious you are about your role on this 823 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,519 council. This is a win for the city. 824 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,279 It's time to start campaigning. 825 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,880 Acknowledge that win and start 826 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:07,279 governing. 827 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,359 I leave you with this. To anyone who is 828 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,679 considering voting against this, I 829 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:14,000 challenge you to provide the residents a 830 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:16,159 detailed plan to provide the tax relief 831 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,639 to the residents on the scale that I 832 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:20,800 have outlined here today 833 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,520 without any loss or deprecation of city 834 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,280 services. We don't want sound bites, 835 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,839 vague campaign promises, or 836 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,879 hypotheticals. We want a concrete plan 837 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:34,240 for our future. We'll be waiting but not 838 00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:36,320 holding our breath. Thank you. 839 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:38,480 And if anybody wants if you guys I have 840 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,839 copies of my calculations if you guys 841 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,679 would like them. 842 00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:45,359 » I'll take a copy. All right. I'll give 843 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:47,359 them to you. Larry have 844 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:48,960 » Larry you can have Larry. You can ask 845 00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:52,879 Catherine to make copies and put them 846 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:56,200 out on the table for people to pick up. 847 00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:56,200 » Next ma'am. 848 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,119 » He's he's tall. Ma'am. Ma'am. Just a 849 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:04,640 moment. We're going to call two more 850 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:08,200 folks. Okay. We have Jeff Owens and Jeff 851 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,200 Olsa next. 852 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,000 » Go ahead, ma'am. 853 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:17,680 » Hi, I'm Carrie Harrow. It's C A R I E H 854 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,400 E R O. I am the chairman of the Ottawa 855 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,079 Area Chamber of Commerce and Jamie 856 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,000 McCracken, our executive director, 857 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:27,280 couldn't make it here this evening. Um 858 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:30,640 there is a letter of his support but I 859 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,359 am here to um on behalf of the chamber 860 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,720 to express our support for consolation 861 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:39,599 proposed annexation of the 700 acres in 862 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:42,160 the Marcel city limits. Ottawa area 863 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:44,880 chamber of commerce is honor to serve 864 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,400 the city of Marcel values our strong 865 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,560 partnership 866 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,960 with the local leadership and community. 867 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,079 We also share a productive working 868 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,839 relationship with consolation 869 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:59,440 and appreciate their continued 870 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:01,359 investment in Marcel's and Lel County. 871 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,280 As nation's leaders in carbon-f free 872 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:05,599 energy, consolation exemplifies 873 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,599 innovation, reliability, environmental 874 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:10,720 responsibility. Their presence 875 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:12,400 strengthens our local um economic 876 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:14,720 economy, expands employment 877 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,800 opportunities, and reinforces the 878 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,160 region's commitment for clean energy and 879 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,640 sust sustainable growth. We respectfully 880 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,280 support this proposed annexation and 881 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,760 look forward to working together 882 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,320 towards continued progress and shared 883 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:34,440 success. 884 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,440 » Thank you, Jeff. 885 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:43,280 Hi, Jeff Owens. Owns. 886 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,359 I was going to speak about uh the 887 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,040 problem with the school and the tax. My 888 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:48,880 good friend Larry Cowi had done that 889 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,240 very well. The other thing I was going 890 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,640 to add 30 years ago, I remember a city 891 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:57,040 commissioner, he's passed away now, made 892 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,040 a statement about that land out there. 893 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,839 This is real growth. This is real 894 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,680 growth. And I thought, okay, I was 895 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:05,200 working part-time for the phone company. 896 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,119 I put the phone lines in out there. I'm 897 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,200 thinking, boy, is that real growth. Is 898 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:14,720 that It's taken us 30 years. We have the 899 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,960 infrastructure out there. Finally, we do 900 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,119 see real growth. I know there were some 901 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,119 people commenting on when we annexed 902 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:24,079 land out north, which started back in 903 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:27,200 the 70s, probably the late 60s. All 904 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:30,079 right. Finally got out there. All towns 905 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:33,040 our size need to grow 906 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:37,079 to sustain themselves. So, thank you, 907 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,079 Constellation, for this opportunity. 908 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:47,200 » Thanks, Jeff. Jeff, number two's up. 909 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:49,599 » Diane Town is next. And then we have 910 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,160 Brad Swanson. 911 00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:55,359 » Hi, I'm Jeff Olsson, mayor of Senica. J 912 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:58,400 E FF O L S O N. Sorry, my voice is 913 00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:00,640 pretty scratchy today. Um, 914 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,079 I was just coming on behalf of Senica 915 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,320 residents. Of course, Ryan, I've had a 916 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:06,480 lot of conversations with you. Um, 917 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,480 obviously this annexation agreement 918 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,680 butts up right next to the Senica city 919 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,440 limits, right? It's a lot closer to 920 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,520 Senica residents than Marcel and many of 921 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,040 them do have concerns. What's going to 922 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400 happen with this property? You know, 923 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,680 there's going to be positive effects and 924 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,960 some of these Senica residents have 925 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,200 concerns there could have negative 926 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,960 effects. Correct. Um, depending if it's 927 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480 a data center or whatever it may become. 928 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,400 I understand we're speaking annexation 929 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,040 today. Um but you know they have 930 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,920 concerns on you know wells running dry 931 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,599 you know just in history of data centers 932 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,119 um the noise pollution things along 933 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:38,640 those lines and my question is is 934 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:40,480 consolation will you include senica 935 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,720 residents in those concerns and 936 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,520 questions and when the time comes when 937 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,760 you do have a customer. So um I wish 938 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,200 Marcel's the best of luck. I uh think 939 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,200 there's a lot of great things for Marc 940 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,359 sales that can come from this and of 941 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,040 course uh as was spoken on earlier, 942 00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:56,720 Constellation's been great for the for 943 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,079 Senica as well, you know. So, like I 944 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,440 said, there's there's a lot of positive 945 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,119 things that can come from this for 946 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400 everybody. So, but those are my 947 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,760 questions and just how Constellation 948 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,560 will address those with Senica 949 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:10,920 residents. So, good luck to Merc. 950 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,920 » Thank you, Jeeoff Diane. 951 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:20,720 Diane Town d i a ne t o w ne 952 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,560 I think this is an important enough 953 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,240 question that it should be put before 954 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:28,800 the city of Marcel's residents 955 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:32,839 and that's you know can this be put 956 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,839 before the residents for vote 957 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,119 I think there's enough people here that 958 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:43,359 aren't just here to agree and and so 959 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,720 that you know we should have our 960 00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:49,119 Thank you. 961 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:53,720 » Thank you, Diane. Brad, 962 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,720 » Jonathan Daring is next. 963 00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:03,400 And then Heidi Henry. And our last one 964 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:03,400 is Katie Quigley. 965 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,280 » We got to go back. 966 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,880 » Yes. Bradley Swanson here. Just first 967 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:17,359 and foremost, I want to say I'm all for 968 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,520 the the development of the economic 969 00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:22,720 community. I think it's a great thing 970 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,839 for the city of Marcel. Uh I just have a 971 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:28,560 couple of questions, I guess. Uh 972 00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:31,839 Constellation said that they're keeping 973 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,040 175 acres, I think you guys said, for 974 00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:37,119 their own use. And I know you don't have 975 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,880 customers or businesses coming in for 976 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,079 the other use. 977 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,079 What what are your plans for the 175 978 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,920 acres? 979 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:49,040 That's one question. I know you're not 980 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:54,000 answering them now, but uh and then the 981 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:57,359 other question is, so when other 982 00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,880 businesses come in or corporations come 983 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:03,760 in, are you going to guarantee 984 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,319 uh citizens from our sales like a 985 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,119 certain percentage of jobs to be held 986 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:11,119 there? There's a lot of intelligent 987 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:14,240 people in Marcel's. A lot of them are in 988 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:17,200 the crowd right here. Uh, and I would 989 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:19,359 love to uh know if you have like certain 990 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,960 information on that. 991 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:23,760 I personally have applied for a 992 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,560 consolation twice and I haven't heard 993 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,680 anything. Nothing. You know, go pound 994 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,520 sand, you know, uh, we might be 995 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,560 interested. Nothing. I have 27 years of 996 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:39,839 emerging technology experience and still 997 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,520 nothing. So, I would love to to hear 998 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:48,119 those answers. Thank you. 999 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,119 » Thank you, Brad. Jonathan. 1000 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:53,440 » Uh, good evening, Jonathan Daring. Uh, I 1001 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,920 am the base operations manager for the 1002 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,800 Marcel's Training Center. Uh, we butt up 1003 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,839 against the west end of this annexation. 1004 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,200 Uh some years ago when Constellation 1005 00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:07,440 uh took over the plant uh we had a longl 1006 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,280 lasting lease agreement on the east end 1007 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,359 southeast end of our installation with 1008 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:15,920 Constellation or excuse me Exelon. Um 1009 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:16,880 when Constellation took over uh they 1010 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640 said that they were going to be looking 1011 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480 to do development and that they weren't 1012 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:24,800 interested in continuing that lease 1013 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:26,560 agreement. Uh these lands are 1014 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,000 well apart from where the annexation 1015 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,319 area is. If this new land is annexed, is 1016 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,800 Constellation willing to look back at 1017 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:35,800 that lease agreement? 1018 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,520 » That's it. Thank you. 1019 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,520 » Thank you, Brad. 1020 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,520 Heidi. 1021 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:52,800 » Hi, Heidi. Henry, uh, HNRY. 1022 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:55,119 Um, my question is, we're all so excited 1023 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,920 for opportunity to come to Marcel. We've 1024 00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:02,079 needed it for so very long in the 35 1025 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:06,160 years I've lived here in that area where 1026 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:07,920 um you're planning to develop. 1027 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,640 When I was a child, I used to go duck 1028 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,119 hunting with there with my dad. So, I'm 1029 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,160 very familiar with the wetlands that are 1030 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:18,640 out there because of the excellent duck 1031 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:23,040 and goose hunting out there. 1032 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:25,760 My question for the city is because 1033 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,440 there's no customer yet, have you 1034 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,680 secured 1035 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,440 from constellation 1036 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:36,319 a commitment to protect the air, water, 1037 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,800 land, and noise pollution that's going 1038 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:42,319 to come from these businesses? For those 1039 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,760 of us that live rural and have farms, 1040 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:46,000 now mine's on the other side of the 1041 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,720 river. It's really important to know 1042 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,960 that our way of life will be protected 1043 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:54,880 while bringing this beneficial 1044 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:58,520 opportunity to our community. That is my 1045 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,520 question. Thank you. 1046 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:10,160 » Kate. 1047 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:13,280 » Hello. My name is Katewigley. K A T U G 1048 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:17,119 L E Y. I've lived outside of Marcales 1049 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,359 now for about eight years and um my 1050 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:21,839 husband works frequently within the 1051 00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:24,480 nuclear plant type settings and other 1052 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:26,640 plants. I would say my question pertains 1053 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,400 more to the environmental aspects as 1054 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:32,160 well. Looking at the LAR and the 1055 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,319 watershed aspects and having the lock 1056 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,640 and dam right there already the water's 1057 00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:38,240 low. We're already in a drought year 1058 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,160 two. 1059 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:43,680 Imagining if a data center were to go 1060 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:47,280 there. That's a significant amount of 1061 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,560 heat water right next to you know a 1062 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,319 plant that already puts out a lot of 1063 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:55,119 heat uses a lot of water even though it 1064 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:57,119 is a more con uh space within their 1065 00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:01,520 system uh con what's the word I want 1066 00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:03,040 contained within that system um the what 1067 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,040 are the environmental studies that have 1068 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,040 been done have we done environmental 1069 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:10,079 studies there for realizing if we do 1070 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:13,040 develop this land that that is going to 1071 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:14,400 be taken way if for the wetlands are 1072 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,079 there prairies there are there remnant 1073 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,359 prairies I'm not sure I haven't explored 1074 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:21,200 that chunk of land yet the if there are 1075 00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:24,720 remnant prairies and wetlands those need 1076 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:27,040 to stay where we've taken away so much 1077 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,359 already the constellation you know if 1078 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,720 you I feel like learning about marcel 1079 00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,920 it' be great if you guys want to help 1080 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:35,359 out the community get rid of the huge 1081 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,280 asbestous building that'd be nice 1082 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:38,560 the 1083 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,280 you know something like that that would 1084 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,720 be beneficial for everybody Um, I'm 1085 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,560 grateful for the power that you guys 1086 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:46,880 supply that you know there's safety 1087 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,319 regulations in place, but you don't even 1088 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,560 have a customer. Why why are we going to 1089 00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:52,160 annex it now if you don't even have a 1090 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,560 guarantee that you would be able to pay 1091 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,480 the city that amount of money? That 1092 00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:00,400 doesn't make sense to me. Why now? 1093 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,599 What's the point? What is your 1094 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:07,359 farreaching plan environmentally? 1095 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:10,079 And for, you know, I'm 33. I plan on 1096 00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:12,560 living here for the next 40 years. 1097 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:13,920 Why not build more small modular nuclear 1098 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:18,160 plants now that you can? Why are we 1099 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:21,280 going for a data center? Thank you. 1100 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,160 » Thank you, Kate. Pete, stand by a minute 1101 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,720 till Lesley calls up two more. 1102 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,880 » That was it. Unless Joe Bruno wants to 1103 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,720 talk. He was the last one on the sheet. 1104 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,400 » Okay. 1105 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:33,359 Did you register, sir? 1106 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,480 » No. 1107 00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:36,000 » Okay. Uh, 1108 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,839 » Ask Joe if he wants to talk. 1109 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,040 » Hang on a minute. Joe, do you want to 1110 00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:42,040 talk or are you gonna pass again? 1111 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,720 » All right, go on deck. And is Katherine 1112 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,040 here? Can she get the gentleman's name 1113 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:51,839 in the back? 1114 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,560 » Where's Katherine? 1115 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:57,200 » Okay, wait a minute. 1116 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,960 » Joe Bruno, B R U N O. 1117 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,200 » I don't have I think some of the 1118 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,839 questions have been answered. Uh I'm 1119 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,000 concerned you're going to approve 1120 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,480 constellation and they said they have 1121 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,359 right to anything future. 1122 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,839 Uh is a city going to be held for it? 1123 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:16,960 You're going to provide water and sewer. 1124 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:18,800 Uh when they put something in there, how 1125 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,000 much commitment will a city have on 1126 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:24,079 that? And also I'm asking same as the 1127 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,920 other question. I'm concerned about the 1128 00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:30,960 well. You know, I get I get my water 1129 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,160 right down the road. And uh I know it's 1130 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,960 an opportunity, but if here they are 1131 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,200 going to plan, they spent how much 1132 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,720 million how many dollars? Couple 1133 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,079 dollars, I guess. Uh to to do something 1134 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:46,079 that they don't know what they're going 1135 00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:48,720 to do. 1136 00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:51,119 And there's been a lot of secret here. A 1137 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:52,720 lot of time, you know, nobody can talk 1138 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:56,800 about this, you can't talk about this, 1139 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,960 you can't talk about that. And what is I 1140 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,440 mean I think there's probably been some 1141 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,359 negotiations. Now the city is going to 1142 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,880 provide water and sewer. If something 1143 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:07,520 else goes in there, they have the right 1144 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,880 to put whatever they want in or is it is 1145 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,079 it going to have to come back to the 1146 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,960 city 1147 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:14,319 » Before they develop anything. So that's 1148 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,640 all I have. Thank you. 1149 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:19,200 » Thank you, Joe. Okay, Pete, your turn 1150 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,880 now. 1151 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,960 » After Pete, it will be full. 1152 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,480 » That's a hard active act to follow. Joe 1153 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,160 Bruno 1154 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:31,760 uh Peter Hall H L 1155 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:36,559 73 years in Marcel's I now live in St. 1156 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:40,160 Clair County uh in Illinois Belleville. 1157 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:42,079 Uh my family moved here. I'm the son of 1158 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,240 Ivan Hall. 1159 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:48,480 My dad was principal Marcel's High 1160 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:51,280 School from 1952 to 1967. 1161 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:55,200 My dad was uh assistant superintendent 1162 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:59,520 of schools of Lasowl County from 1967 to 1163 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:01,680 1982. Yeah. He created IVCC. 1164 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:06,000 Um 1165 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:10,800 and I I lived I lived in Ottawa from 71 1166 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:12,960 to 77. My brother Don Lee Hall 1167 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:17,359 uh left the Rock Island Railroad, which 1168 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:20,160 he was ahead of uh in 1977. 1169 00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:24,079 He worked out there. He was a head of 1170 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:26,160 the labors at Morrison that built the 1171 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,880 nuclear plant. 1172 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,920 And he is one of the people that went 1173 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:35,119 back and I think it was 1982 1174 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:38,640 that went and questioned 1175 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:41,119 the safety measures of that plant which 1176 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:44,559 they went ahead and upgraded the safety 1177 00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:48,319 measures of that plant. Soon after that, 1178 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:50,160 Three-Mile Island happened 1179 00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,160 and we all know the F effect F effect F 1180 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:50,160 effect F effect F effect F effect F 1181 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,920 effect F effect F effect F effect F 1182 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:56,640 effect FX of that. 1183 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,720 Uh, I moved to Marcel 1184 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,480 in 1977 1185 00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:06,559 and I built a house there because 1186 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:09,920 Commonwealth Edison under Illinois power 1187 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:13,359 and we were under Illinois power said, 1188 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,520 "Oh, let's put a heat pump in because 1189 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:19,520 we're going to take the meters off after 1190 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:22,400 5 years and all the power will be free." 1191 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:26,960 Of course, we all know what happened the 1192 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:30,720 expense here. And they mentioned 1952. 1193 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:34,720 1952 when Marcel's went in went unit 1194 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:38,240 district. It got our family up here 1195 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:41,920 because Marcel's was the lowest tax 1196 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:44,400 school system in 19 in the early 50s in 1197 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,880 the state of Illinois because it was 1198 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:52,240 just took that Marcel's res 1199 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,760 uh certainted and Nabiscoco and 1200 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:57,119 everything. 1201 00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:00,240 Uh, in 1967, 1202 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:03,680 I remember before I was drafted, 1203 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:05,520 we had the president of the Cynica 1204 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,720 School Board 1205 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:13,119 wanting to come up and join with 1206 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:17,760 Marcel's through their school system. 1207 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:19,680 But then later, KMED came and changed 1208 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,319 everything 1209 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,760 through our educational programs and 1210 00:51:22,319 --> 00:51:29,599 everything on our tax base. 1211 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:33,040 Uh, I'm I'm really kind of questioning 1212 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:36,079 because uh I have relatives right here 1213 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:40,680 in this hat 1214 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:40,680 out in Massachusetts right now 1215 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,680 that questions 1216 00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:48,480 why 1217 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:51,520 are we getting 1218 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,520 so much from our fossil fuels? People 1219 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,359 don't I I have I have relatives that are 1220 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,839 scientists. 1221 00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:01,119 Whether you know it or not, we're taking 1222 00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:04,599 too much fossil energy out of the 1223 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:04,599 northern hemisphere. 1224 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:11,920 That's where the melting. But always 1225 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:14,720 remember, this is why I think we're kind 1226 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,119 of going a little bit solar, 1227 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:19,599 a little bit energy, 1228 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,640 but also 1229 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:24,640 also I know what comed's doing out 1230 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,720 there, too. 1231 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,720 You're going to do more of the 1232 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,720 geothermal. 1233 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,839 That's kind of a fine line in this on 1234 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:40,160 the world energy. 1235 00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:42,000 And I hope we do it right. And I really 1236 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:46,480 hope 1237 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,720 this you listen to all the scientists. 1238 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,760 You listen to all the science because 1239 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:55,240 what I'm afraid of right now is greed is 1240 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,240 taking control 1241 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,240 of our world. 1242 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,160 We have to start respecting our human 1243 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:08,640 rights and our human response. And thank 1244 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:11,599 you. And uh I hope and God bless 1245 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,960 KMAD and consiliation and everything 1246 00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:17,520 too. I really in favor of that. But I it 1247 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,040 it it's really we're we're all in this 1248 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,119 together. 1249 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,559 We're all in this thing together we have 1250 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:27,960 now. And thank you. 1251 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,960 » Thank you Pete. 1252 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,400 » Floyd Jones and then Bob Hogy. 1253 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,559 Good afternoon. Uh Floyd Jones, F L O Y 1254 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,960 D J O N S. 1255 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:47,920 Good afternoon everyone. Uh my name is 1256 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,280 Floyd Jones. Uh been a proud member of 1257 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:53,920 IBW Local 176, an electrician for 32 1258 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,280 years. In the past five years, I've had 1259 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,000 the honor of serving as president of 1260 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,079 Illinois Valley building trades. 1261 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,760 I've spent my career working alongside 1262 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,160 men and women who build the backbone of 1263 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,680 this region, the roads, schools, plants, 1264 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,559 power facilities that keep this 1265 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,800 community running. This afternoon, I 1266 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:14,800 wanted to talk about an opportunity, the 1267 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:17,200 pro proposed annexation of 715 acres of 1268 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,359 land to the constellation energy and why 1269 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,720 it's a step forward, not just from 1270 00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:24,160 ourselves, but our entire area. 1271 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:26,640 Let's start with what this means for 1272 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,720 working families. This development 1273 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,720 annexation brings real jobs. Hundreds of 1274 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:33,359 good paying construction jobs that will 1275 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:36,000 directly employ skilled local tradesmen 1276 00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:39,040 and women, electricians, pipe fitters, 1277 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:42,000 iron workers, operators, laborers, sheet 1278 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,000 metal workers, you name it. 1279 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,720 These aren't temporary out of town 1280 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,240 crews. These are our neighbors, our 1281 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:50,640 brothers, our sisters, people who live 1282 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,559 here, buy groceries here, and send their 1283 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160 kids to school here. And beyond 1284 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,760 construction 1285 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,440 for the future development, 1286 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,680 Constellation's investment means a 1287 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,920 long-term operations, jobs, stable, 1288 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,319 high-quality employment that will keep 1289 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,920 people working for decades. 1290 00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:07,599 That kind of stability keeps young 1291 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,119 people in our communities, and supports 1292 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:11,920 small businesses up and down Main 1293 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:14,240 Street. Economically, the benefits 1294 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,160 ripple even further. The influx of 1295 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:18,480 workers will mean more businesses, more 1296 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:21,040 business for local restaurants, hotels, 1297 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,960 gas stations, and suppliers. 1298 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,760 Every paycheck spent here multiplies 1299 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,960 through our local economy. And let's not 1300 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,079 forget one of the most important 1301 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:32,079 impacts, tax revenue. 1302 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:34,079 Annexing this land and bringing this 1303 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:35,680 development to Mars sales means millions 1304 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:38,720 of new dollars flowing into local 1305 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,280 coffers, supporting schools, emergency 1306 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:44,079 services, and infrastructure. That's 1307 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,079 more funding for teachers, 1308 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:48,559 better resources for students, and 1309 00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:52,520 stronger city services without raising 1310 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:52,520 taxes on the current residents. 1311 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:57,599 This is the kind of project and with 1312 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,319 this annexation, it builds a community's 1313 00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:02,000 future. It keeps our trade strong, 1314 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:04,319 supports our schools, and ensures 1315 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,680 Marcel's remains a place where families 1316 00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:09,119 want to live, work, and raise our kids. 1317 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,799 I've seen now I've seen a lot of 1318 00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,880 projects come and go in my three decades 1319 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:14,160 in the trades and I can tell you 1320 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,880 opportunities like this don't come 1321 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,799 around often. This annexation is a 1322 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,119 chance for Marcelos to grow smartly, 1323 00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:22,559 responsibly and in partnership with a 1324 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:26,559 company that's proven its commitment to 1325 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:28,480 energy safety and local workforce. 1326 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:30,400 So, I'm asking you this afternoon as 1327 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,400 someone who spent a lifetime wiring and 1328 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,960 building this community from the ground 1329 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,359 up to look at this annexation not as a 1330 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,359 risk but as an investment. 1331 00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:44,599 An investment in our people, our 1332 00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:44,599 economy, and our future. Thank you. 1333 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:49,799 » Thank you, Floyd 1334 00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:49,799 Bob. 1335 00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:02,400 All right. Uh, Bob Hoggy, H A U G- E. 1336 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,079 Sorry about that. Uh, most you guys know 1337 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,599 me here. I've been a resident since 1338 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,119 1989. 1339 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:08,400 Uh, seen a lot of things happen in our 1340 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:10,319 little town in those years I've been 1341 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,680 here. For too many years, Marcel has 1342 00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:14,079 been behind the times when it comes to 1343 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,000 prosperity, innovation, and progressive 1344 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,520 thinking. The industry that once 1345 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,920 supported the majority of our families 1346 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,160 and our community has been sitting empty 1347 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,839 for over two decades. There have been a 1348 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,960 few interested parties that have 1349 00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:27,040 considered investing in the now 1350 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,079 abandoned Nabiscoco building and the sad 1351 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,520 truth is competent investors have never 1352 00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,079 been willing to invest their own money 1353 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,400 into our fledging community. Then we 1354 00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:39,599 have Glenbury Blick brick that closed in 1355 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,880 2023. We lost about 40 local jobs there. 1356 00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:42,400 Just recently this building here 1357 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,079 Illinois Valley Cellar we lost a couple 1358 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,079 years ago 1359 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:48,240 50 people without jobs. So we've lost 1360 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,520 our share in this little town. The land 1361 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,520 that we're discussing this evening, 1362 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,200 which was annexed into this city over 25 1363 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,359 years ago, was supposed to be our 1364 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,760 heritage harbor like Ottawa. Our big 1365 00:57:55,359 --> 00:58:00,400 housing boom. As we all know, that dream 1366 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,000 never came to fruition. With hope for 1367 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,760 growth that never happened, we watched 1368 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,240 as other communities expand their school 1369 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,559 systems while we closed ours. Other 1370 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,559 small towns had population growth. With 1371 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:12,960 Marcel has struggled to do that, our 1372 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:14,240 population actually has gone down. As we 1373 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,520 sit here debating whether or not this is 1374 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,079 the right fit for our community, the 1375 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,839 fact remains the land has been purchased 1376 00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:21,760 and shovels will be in the ground at 1377 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:24,000 some point and that's a fact that's not 1378 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,079 going to go away. Do we just wait for 1379 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,559 something else and be passed over once 1380 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:30,799 again? While the likes of Senica High 1381 00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:32,720 School, no offense, Brookfield Township 1382 00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:35,200 and Lasel County reap the benefits of a 1383 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,960 project like this. I for one am not 1384 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,920 willing to just sit back and watch our 1385 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,359 sales pass opportunity any longer. With 1386 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,640 this agreement, we'll see an influx of 1387 00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:44,160 revenue that's going to assist with the 1388 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,559 completion of several projects for our 1389 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,119 small town, such as lead water line 1390 00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:50,640 replacement, maybe sanitary sewer uh 1391 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,319 system improvements along with street 1392 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,680 improvements, projects that are just too 1393 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,880 numerous too numerous to list. There's a 1394 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,040 lot of stuff that we can use that money 1395 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,960 for. We can also improve that in 1396 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,280 infrastructure south of the river that's 1397 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,720 been a problem for all these years. I've 1398 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,319 asked around people at city hall here 1399 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,920 what the hurdles are uh that we had to 1400 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:08,400 overcome while operating the facilities 1401 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:11,200 out there south of the river. Since year 1402 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,839 2000, fund 52-10, which serves the 1403 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:17,280 wastewater system south of the river, is 1404 00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:18,880 over $350,000 in debt. 1405 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,200 This is not due to extravagant spending, 1406 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,839 but rather a lack of sustained revenue 1407 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,359 over the last 20 plus years. 1408 00:59:23,839 --> 00:59:26,720 Additionally, the South Water Tower has 1409 00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:28,480 issues with freezing during the harsh 1410 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:32,799 winter months because there's lack of 1411 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,480 usage that keeps the water flowing. 1412 00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:36,880 Maybe a commercial development will be 1413 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,799 just what we need to not only offset the 1414 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,240 years of operating in the red, but also 1415 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:41,920 provide us with enough demand to 1416 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,000 properly operate that water tower 1417 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,520 throughout the year. There's other 1418 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,880 issues consider such as a lack of 1419 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,880 revenue to maintain those roads out 1420 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,720 there, the bridges, lift stations, the 1421 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,799 wastewater wastewater facility, all the 1422 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,000 stuff out there that's been kind of let 1423 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:56,319 go because it hasn't been affordable to 1424 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,000 take care of it. Whether commercial 1425 00:59:56,319 --> 01:00:00,720 development on this property creates 50 1426 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,119 jobs or 400 jobs, it might just be the 1427 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,280 boost our local economy needs to become 1428 01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:06,799 a thriving community. Tonight's our 1429 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,319 opportunity, our opportunity to 1430 01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:11,280 capitalize on opportunities that we've 1431 01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:13,520 lost over the past 25 years. So, I ask 1432 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:18,079 all of you these two questions. Why not 1433 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:21,480 Marcel? And why not now? Thanks. 1434 01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:21,480 » Thank you, Bob. 1435 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,400 » Yes. I have like three more thoughts 1436 01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:29,400 that are 1437 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,760 » Okay 1438 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,400 for me, 1439 01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:42,160 » Which is hilarious if you know me. Um, 1440 01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:43,599 thank you. I appreciate it. A couple of 1441 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:48,400 thoughts that 1442 01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:49,839 » Oh, sorry, Kate Quigley. Quig. Okay. Um, 1443 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,480 thank you for letting me speak again 1444 01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:55,040 really quick. I've noticed as some of 1445 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,200 the um 1446 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,880 have lived here longer, people that have 1447 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,640 spoken a bit about the history about how 1448 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,480 this town has been constructed and 1449 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,480 things like that. When they're talking 1450 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,240 about construction, that's nice. Guess 1451 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,680 what? That goes away real quick. I 1452 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,160 watched the construction of, you know, 1453 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,799 massive semi-building storage places. 1454 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,000 They're hideous. If this potential, 1455 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,119 let's just go with it. There's probably 1456 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,680 going to be a data center. That's what 1457 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:20,240 all the towns are building. Um why does 1458 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,520 every town need it? If those 1459 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,559 construction jobs, that's great. You 1460 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,960 have 40 people working for two years, 1461 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:30,319 three years maybe, then that goes away. 1462 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:34,079 Data centers usually hire on staff about 1463 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:38,160 at most 20 people if that for a, you 1464 01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:40,640 know, 300 acre 1465 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:44,079 building. There's no point to that. the, 1466 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:47,359 you know, benefits of looking 5, 10, 15 1467 01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:50,160 years down the road. 1468 01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:52,799 We don't have a customer. It's beautiful 1469 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:57,839 land there. Yes, it should be utilized. 1470 01:01:52,799 --> 01:02:00,400 Yes. But again, why annex it now? So, 1471 01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:04,400 buildings start going up. Okay. What's 1472 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,559 the plan for that? Did you do the due 1473 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,760 process behind it? And I agree with I 1474 01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,640 don't remember her name, but one of the 1475 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,359 first ladies to speak. Can once it's 1476 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,359 done or once the project is considered, 1477 01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:18,079 do the people of the town get a vote or 1478 01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:21,760 is it just our city council? 1479 01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:23,520 And I don't understand or honestly pay 1480 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,200 attention to all the fancy little 1481 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:30,000 ordinance bits and how that works. And 1482 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,280 I'm out in the country, so it's not as 1483 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,839 bad. But it does cause concern when I 1484 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,839 see this many people of our town worried 1485 01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:40,720 about this annexation. Is it beneficial? 1486 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:42,559 Is it harmful? 1487 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,440 And I look out there and I don't see 1488 01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:47,599 very many people my age. 1489 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,960 It's a concern. 1490 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,680 Where's the young people that this is 1491 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:55,079 going to affect longer? Thank you. 1492 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,079 » Thank you, Kate. 1493 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,680 » Is there anybody else that would like to 1494 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:05,200 speak and hasn't had a number? 1495 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:10,040 » Bob Davis, come on out. 1496 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,040 » There he goes. There he goes. Good kid. 1497 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,440 My name is Bob Davis 1498 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:25,520 and I'm in the middle of seven 1499 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:28,640 generations that have lived in this town 1500 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,280 and I've had some experience 1501 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,119 with the finances 1502 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,720 and during that period of time we've had 1503 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:39,760 industries come and look and they always 1504 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:43,039 wanted a lot from the city 1505 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:45,920 to come in and take advantage of what we 1506 01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:48,480 had to offer. 1507 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:52,720 And um 1508 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:56,000 to paraphrase Shakespeare, 1509 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,880 there's a tide that comes along in the 1510 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,039 history of individuals when taking at 1511 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,760 the flood 1512 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:06,079 leads to prosperity. 1513 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,720 When not taken 1514 01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:11,359 in the end leads to despair and other 1515 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:15,359 things. And this is the first company 1516 01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:18,319 that I'm familiar with that has come in 1517 01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:20,079 and has been willing to invest a lot of 1518 01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:23,280 money 1519 01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:26,559 without asking a lot from the city. 1520 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:29,520 They have not asked for cities to 1521 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:31,440 increase their infrastructure 1522 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,400 and if there is things that has to be 1523 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:37,920 done they have made commitments to take 1524 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:41,520 care of that increase. 1525 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:43,520 and they talk about um that they do not 1526 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,400 yet have 1527 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,240 uh what they want to build, 1528 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,039 but I will tell you, and I don't know 1529 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:53,839 this for a fact, I'm just guessing, they 1530 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:56,799 are not willing to commit $10 million to 1531 01:04:53,839 --> 01:04:59,920 this project without 1532 01:04:56,799 --> 01:05:03,920 being in the process of probably 1533 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:08,240 finalizing who they want to bring in. 1534 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:10,559 I'll tell you also that if this passes, 1535 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,359 whatever they do decide to bring in has 1536 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:16,400 to come again before the city for the 1537 01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:21,200 city to approve. So they are not given 1538 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:25,920 cart blanch by just the city asking them 1539 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:29,119 or they're asking the city to be part 1540 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,119 of their annexation into the city. The 1541 01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:32,720 city has probably already spent some 1542 01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:35,760 money. 1543 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,280 You don't have your people, lawyers and 1544 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,200 other people looking over these 1545 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,760 projects, this final project without 1546 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,640 paying. But what they have asked in the 1547 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:49,359 city is extremely minimal. 1548 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:53,039 I believe the last uh amount of revenue 1549 01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:55,760 that the city tax for was 17.5 1550 01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:59,119 million something like that. And what 1551 01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:01,520 they're promising to bring in is about 1552 01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,920 17% 1553 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,480 of the budget. 1554 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:10,000 And city financing 1555 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,039 really is not all that complex when you 1556 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:17,680 look at it very simply. 1557 01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:20,000 You tax to hopefully at least stay where 1558 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:23,119 you're at without increasing the tax 1559 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,119 rate. If as citizens you want lower 1560 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:26,799 taxes, there's two ways the city can do 1561 01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:29,920 it. 1562 01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:32,240 But the chief way is that you have to 1563 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:36,160 reduce your spending. You have to make 1564 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:38,240 cuts. You're not going to get tax relief 1565 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,799 and keep the same standards that you 1566 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:44,400 have right now because everything that 1567 01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:48,079 the city doesn't control goes up. 1568 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:50,160 So, an influx of 1569 01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:52,799 $10 million, 1570 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,720 which if my understanding is if they 1571 01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:57,039 don't get any industry to come in there, 1572 01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:00,160 they're still committed to this as a 1573 01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:02,720 result of annexation. 1574 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:06,160 So, it seems to me, and it's saying very 1575 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:10,640 simply, that a yes vote is your voting 1576 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:14,079 for progress and the possibility of 1577 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:17,280 fewer taxes or at least no more new 1578 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:18,960 taxes to sustain what you have now. If 1579 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,319 you vote no, you're voting for 1580 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:25,359 stagnation and deterioration of things 1581 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:27,520 which we have seen over the years. 1582 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:31,280 So 1583 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:33,520 I would request for the 1584 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,599 committee who is considering this on the 1585 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,960 basis of what I know about it which 1586 01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:39,200 there are things that I don't know 1587 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:42,559 because I have not been privy to it but 1588 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,079 from what I have seen. A yes vote is for 1589 01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:45,599 progress and a no vote is for 1590 01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:47,359 stagnation. 1591 01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:49,760 That's as simple as I could make it. 1592 01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:53,160 Thank you for your time. 1593 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,160 » Thank you Bob. 1594 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,319 Nick Manuso. 1595 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:09,440 » Hello. Um, my name is Nick Muso. I live 1596 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:10,720 at 707 Forest Drive. Um, I apologize. 1597 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,160 » Nick, could you please spell your name 1598 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,960 for the court reporter, please? Your 1599 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,480 last name. 1600 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:18,960 » Yes. M anc Uso. 1601 01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:20,480 Um, I apologize for coming in late. I 1602 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,759 You probably already answered this 1603 01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:24,319 question. 1604 01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:26,799 um 1605 01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:30,159 by annexing this property into this into 1606 01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:33,359 the city that allows us to put uh 1607 01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:35,040 covenants on this property. Uh what type 1608 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:38,159 of covenants are going to be placed to 1609 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:42,319 protect the environment and the uh 1610 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:43,920 people living around this uh area. Uh 1611 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:46,960 there's been a lot of concerns for 1612 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:49,440 noise, lighting, 1613 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,239 um water usage. 1614 01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:55,839 Uh a lot of the barge traffic is 1615 01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:59,359 currently stopped because of low 1616 01:08:55,839 --> 01:09:02,239 uh water levels. How much water is that 1617 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:05,679 going to uh is it going to use? How is 1618 01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:08,560 it going to affect our wells? Um most of 1619 01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:12,319 the of the areas south of in that area 1620 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,839 are all on wells. And so there's those 1621 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:15,679 are a few of the questions I wanted 1622 01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:18,000 answered. 1623 01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:19,600 » Okay, Nick, thank you. Constellation is 1624 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,719 making note of the questions and they're 1625 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,400 going to answer them all at the end. 1626 01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:28,679 » Is there anybody else that would like to 1627 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,679 talk that doesn't have a chance? 1628 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:47,120 Thank you for this opportunity. Uh I'm 1629 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:49,440 Truman Mcjorge, MCG O G. I'm the 1630 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,279 chairman of the Illinois River Area 1631 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:53,839 Chamber of Commerce. 1632 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:57,520 Uh the mission of the chamber of 1633 01:09:53,839 --> 01:10:04,320 commerce are to uh work with businesses 1634 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:06,480 to uh enhance uh the the time and uh and 1635 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:12,360 you know work together. I'm not very 1636 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:12,360 good at this. Bear with me. Uh 1637 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:18,640 I've been here uh since I was 5 years 1638 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:20,159 old. Uh originally a Senica now 1639 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,440 Marcelos. 1640 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,679 Uh, I remember Marcel hasn't changed a 1641 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:29,760 whole lot, you know, since I I was 1642 01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:34,239 young. Uh, and there was another little 1643 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:37,600 town that, uh, was almost nothing. It 1644 01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:40,800 was a basically a suburb of Lasal, 1645 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:43,600 and that's Peru. They have, uh, 1646 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:47,440 warehouses, businesses all around the 1647 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:50,080 outer edge of their town. And, uh, look 1648 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:52,080 what uh, Peru is now. No one would ever 1649 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,560 thought that. 1650 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:57,840 Um 1651 01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:01,840 uh just another little thing about 1652 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:04,080 working together. Uh I remember the old 1653 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:07,920 Ottawa. I think you all do. And now you 1654 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,760 know what it is now. Uh some years ago, 1655 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,640 probably I'd say 10 years, maybe a 1656 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:18,239 little more. uh some citizens, 1657 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:20,880 businesses and uh the the uh city hall 1658 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:23,120 work together to improve that town. They 1659 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,040 work together and now look what it is. 1660 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:28,000 Uh Streeter has taken up the mantle to 1661 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,880 follow in the uh footsteps of Ottawa. 1662 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:33,920 Got a beautiful park, murals and so 1663 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:36,960 forth. Everybody working together. Uh 1664 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:41,280 there there's I think there's going to 1665 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:43,440 be uh some few problems and there always 1666 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:45,679 are and hopefully they could be worked 1667 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:48,640 out if everybody works together. I think 1668 01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:52,239 things can be worked out down the road. 1669 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:56,560 Uh if you look ahead 1670 01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:59,600 and uh realize uh what's happening 1671 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:03,679 uh at Holderman Hill 1672 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:07,760 there is uh a route 80 swings down that 1673 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:10,080 way and there you have 1674 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:13,760 uh the river 1675 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:16,159 for uh commerce. You have the railroad 1676 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,800 and you have an interstate 1677 01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:21,679 all within two miles 1678 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:25,120 that carries on to the other side of 1679 01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:28,320 Lasel Peru where the down there 1680 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:31,679 somewhere. I think it's uh the ri the 1681 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:35,679 Illinois River cuts sharp south and goes 1682 01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:38,159 south. You got this narrow area with 1683 01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:40,880 these three things for transportation 1684 01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:42,480 plus you have a nuclear plant. 1685 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:45,360 It's just common sense this isn't going 1686 01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:49,320 to happen. So I think we should uh work 1687 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,320 together make the best fit. 1688 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,280 » Thank you Truman. 1689 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,880 Is that everybody? 1690 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,800 Mike 1691 01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:23,840 Hey there, I'm Michael Muny, muny. 1692 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,000 Uh, I'd like to start out by saying I 1693 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,920 think there's a fundamental lack of 1694 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,199 understanding how technology is going to 1695 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:34,159 play a future role in small towns in in 1696 01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:37,040 the nation overall. So we're looking at 1697 01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:40,080 things like AGI, AI development, and 1698 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,239 robotics. What do those need? Generally, 1699 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,560 computing power. Computing power needs 1700 01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:46,800 power generation. That's what this 1701 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,199 company specializes in. They're going to 1702 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,280 get customers for it. 1703 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:54,480 And what that means for us is that in 1704 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:57,120 the future, hundreds of jobs, thousands 1705 01:13:54,480 --> 01:14:00,480 of jobs only take a handful of people to 1706 01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:02,400 actually complete production. What that 1707 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,760 means for us is that a majority of us 1708 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,840 are probably going to get laid off from 1709 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:09,199 our jobs and we're going to be banking 1710 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:12,320 on a lump sum of money from this deal to 1711 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:14,719 keep carrying us through. what starts 1712 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,560 off as millions for us right now is 1713 01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:19,040 going to end up generating billions of 1714 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,120 dollars for this company and we're going 1715 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,000 to get the raw in the deal and we're 1716 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:27,040 going to see that Mars sales yet again 1717 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,520 came so close to getting something great 1718 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,560 and instead we negotiated a 40-year 1719 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:35,360 deal. We shouldn't negotiate for 10 or 1720 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,840 15 years 1721 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:40,080 and we'll just it'll all pass us by yet 1722 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,880 again because this is the development 1723 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,320 for this technology. Seven to 15 years 1724 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,960 and instead they're going to log us in 1725 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,880 for 40. So we're going to get this great 1726 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,280 deal for the first five years and oh 1727 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,960 crap what happens? 1728 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,080 They're generating hundreds of billions 1729 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:57,840 of dollars off ofund and some acres and 1730 01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:00,080 we're getting $10 million out of the 1731 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,520 whole thing. And if you're lucky, 1732 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,159 there's not going to be environmental 1733 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,560 damage, which there most likely will be, 1734 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:09,679 too. So, it's something to think about. 1735 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:11,120 I'm yes for progress, but I'm no for 1736 01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:13,199 getting a raw deal at the end of this 1737 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,719 thing. We should consider our families 1738 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:17,440 when 1739 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:20,840 city council votes on that. Thank you. 1740 01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:20,840 » Thank you, Mike. 1741 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,600 If there's nobody else that wishes to 1742 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,760 speak, I'm going to turn it back over to 1743 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:34,440 Constellation to answer the questions 1744 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,440 that have been posed here this evening. 1745 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,040 » Could we take a fiveminute recess so we 1746 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,360 can compile the questions and 1747 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,880 » Absolutely. Let's take Well, let's do 1748 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,640 Yeah, let's do at least a fivem minute 1749 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,719 recess. anybody needs to use the 1750 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,360 restrooms. There's some right through 1751 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:51,440 that door there and there's some through 1752 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:55,000 that door there and to the right through 1753 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:55,000 the community room. 1754 01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,880 » All right, following a very short 1755 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,880 recess, we're going to go back on the 1756 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:08,120 record and conclude uh continue with a 1757 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,120 public hearing. 1758 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:15,199 Uh, next up, we'll have Constellation uh 1759 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:19,920 uh respond to the questions that were 1760 01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:22,480 answered during the public meeting. 1761 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,679 » Well, thank you um Mayor Holland Beck 1762 01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,960 and members of the commission and 1763 01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:27,520 public. I really appreciate this 1764 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,360 opportunity um for us to come and uh 1765 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,640 present tonight to you. Uh to the best 1766 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,000 of my ability, I'm going to try to 1767 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,480 answer a couple questions and then turn 1768 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,800 it over to Greg uh for a little bit of 1769 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:39,120 followup. Uh, first Greg informed me 1770 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,840 that my dyslexia kicked in about the 1771 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:44,640 question about 175 acres being held 1772 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,719 back. The total is 715 acres 1773 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,679 approximately and so I apologize if that 1774 01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:51,760 was a mistake. Um, and then second and 1775 01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:54,000 we had a question from the city of 1776 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,760 Synica and National Guard. Uh, we want 1777 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,040 to continue to have robust conversation 1778 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,280 with you guys and keep you guys 1779 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:02,520 informed. Um, with that I'll turn it 1780 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,520 over to Gregory. 1781 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,679 » Yeah, thank you. So, I'm going to answer 1782 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:09,440 um a series or questions or touch on a 1783 01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:11,679 series of topics that were made in 1784 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:14,880 approximately the order that they were 1785 01:17:11,679 --> 01:17:16,640 uh made by speakers during tonight's uh 1786 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,640 testimony. And once I conclude my 1787 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,000 comments, then we would turn back to the 1788 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,239 mayor's chair of the meeting to continue 1789 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,159 the public hearing. First, there was a a 1790 01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:26,560 comment about the Freedom of Information 1791 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:29,600 Act provisions in the annexation 1792 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,280 agreement. Um it is true that the 1793 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,440 annexation agreement includes such a 1794 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,199 provision and as the speaker indicated 1795 01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:36,960 given the confidential and highly 1796 01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:39,440 sensitive nature of plans for 1797 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,440 development of emerging technology uses 1798 01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:43,679 which may include things like security 1799 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:45,280 plans and proprietary materials. The 1800 01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:46,960 city and constellation have agreed to 1801 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,520 coordinate and jointly review and work 1802 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,440 on these responses in order to ensure 1803 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,159 that the safety and security of the 1804 01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:56,719 facilities is not put at risk. 1805 01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:59,760 Next, um Ryan addressed the matter of 1806 01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:03,199 175 versus 751 acres. Thank you. Um 1807 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:06,480 there's a question about um jobs in jobs 1808 01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:08,880 for uh residents. Um 1809 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,800 within the development without a 1810 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,800 customer, Constellation cannot speculate 1811 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,480 on hiring, but any new facility would 1812 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,239 likely require hundreds of temporary 1813 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,840 construction jobs. The number of 1814 01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:19,440 permanent operational jobs once the 1815 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:22,480 project is complete would depend on the 1816 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:24,560 specific project and customer. There 1817 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:28,640 were several comments about uh potential 1818 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:31,040 impacts on other properties. Um 1819 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,199 any development that is undertaken on 1820 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,199 this property must comply with all 1821 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:37,440 applicable city, state, and federal 1822 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:39,360 regulations. In addition, due to the 1823 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:42,480 size of the property, there is room for 1824 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:46,320 buffers and other methods to minimize 1825 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:48,400 impacts if necessary. 1826 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:51,360 With regard to uh questions about the 1827 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,280 the water system and water usage, as I 1828 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,199 noted during my introductory comments 1829 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,280 under the annexation agreement, if any 1830 01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:59,840 extensions of the water system are 1831 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,159 necessary to serve the development, uh 1832 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:04,320 those extensions will be funded by 1833 01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:06,640 constellation. With respect to water 1834 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,960 usage, because there is no customer, 1835 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,960 constellation cannot forecast what the 1836 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,800 water demand will be. But all 1837 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,040 development, as I just indicated, must 1838 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:17,199 comply with all um city, state, and 1839 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:20,880 federal permitting requirements relating 1840 01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:22,560 to uh water usage. 1841 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:26,800 A speaker mentioned the $10 million 1842 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:29,760 payment and asked if to conf appeared to 1843 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:32,480 ask for confirmation um and and I can 1844 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,719 confirm as noted in my comments earlier 1845 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:36,719 that the $10 million worth of payments 1846 01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:40,800 by constellation will be made even if no 1847 01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:43,679 development occurs on the property. 1848 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:45,360 Finally, as to the question of why now, 1849 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:48,080 um 1850 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,840 this constellation is bringing this uh 1851 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,480 has has brought this matter forward with 1852 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,239 the city. Um and the terms of the 1853 01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:56,320 agreement, including the incentives are 1854 01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:58,960 needed due to competitions with other 1855 01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:02,239 cities and states for customers in the 1856 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,920 emerging technology space. Um, this 1857 01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:05,760 agreement sets forth the rules of the 1858 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,239 road and provides certainty to 1859 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,640 Constellation and customers so that 1860 01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:14,360 development can commence. Mayor, with 1861 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,360 that I turn back to you. 1862 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:23,840 Is that everything? 1863 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,360 » Okay. Thank you. 1864 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:29,120 Uh, 1865 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:31,280 we'll now move along to uh the next item 1866 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,760 on the agenda. I'll ask the clerk to 1867 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,480 read uh number one. 1868 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,920 » We need 1869 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:37,199 » Okay, hold it. 1870 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,960 » I'm sorry, mayor. We need to make a 1871 01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:39,520 motion to go ahead and close the meeting 1872 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,560 hearing. 1873 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,360 » Uh I'll entertain a motion to uh close 1874 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,560 the public hearing. 1875 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,880 » I'll second it. 1876 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,000 » Could I just add it approximately 5:41 1877 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:52,400 so the time is reflected. 1878 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:53,199 » Okay. Thank you. Uh we got a motion. We 1879 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,159 got a second. 1880 01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,320 » I second it. 1881 01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:58,239 » Oh, who made the motion? 1882 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,400 » Oh, I'll make the motion. All right. 1883 01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:02,719 I'll make the motion. I'll second it. 1884 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:07,760 » Okay. Motion made by Kaminsky, seconded 1885 01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:08,960 by Buckingham. Clerk will read the role. 1886 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,760 » Commissioner Kaminsky. 1887 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,120 » I 1888 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,760 » Small I. 1889 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,880 » Sh. 1890 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,679 » No. 1891 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,320 » Buckingham. 1892 01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:15,280 » Hi. 1893 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,159 » Mayor Holland. 1894 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:19,960 » Hi. 1895 01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:19,960 » Jim Light up their mics. 1896 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,600 » Yes. Everybody's excited. Uh we're going 1897 01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:25,440 to ask our clerk to go ahead and read 1898 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:29,120 the motion. Okay. Moved by Commissioner 1899 01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:32,080 Kaminsky that resolution 2025-9, 1900 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:34,080 a resolution authorizing the execution 1901 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:38,159 of an annexation agreement with 1902 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:40,960 Constellation Energy Generation LLC and 1903 01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:41,920 Everett Creek Land Company LLC be 1904 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,280 adopted. 1905 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,560 » Okay. Do I have a second? 1906 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,239 » I will second that. 1907 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,800 » Okay. Now, we'll open it up for 1908 01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:52,239 discussion and 1909 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,920 I'm going to start. Um, 1910 01:21:52,239 --> 01:21:55,440 I'm really kind of excited for this 1911 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,320 development. 1912 01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:59,840 Uh, 1913 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,760 I think this is very important for 1914 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:05,199 Marcel. I think it's a once in 1915 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:08,719 a-lifetime opportunity for Marcel. I'm 1916 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:10,320 excited to work in partnership with 1917 01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:13,040 Constellation. 1918 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:15,040 Uh, 1919 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,520 I keep an open mind when somebody comes 1920 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,920 and talks to me about something and this 1921 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:22,320 was no different. You know, I had 1922 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,880 reservations and questions at first, but 1923 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:28,080 uh we met with them, we did different 1924 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:31,760 things and we got educated and so I am 1925 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:35,199 now excited about it. So, uh 1926 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:37,280 Commissioner Small or Kmenky, 1927 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:39,520 » Uh first of all, like to say thank you, 1928 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,760 consolation. Uh I look forward to this 1929 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:43,520 partnership and I'm very happy that uh 1930 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,520 we have some huge development hopefully 1931 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,840 coming soon to the city of Marcels and 1932 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,280 the residents. Thank you, Mayor. 1933 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,960 Commissioner Small. 1934 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:54,480 » Um I would like to thank everybody for 1935 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,560 joining us this evening and speaking um 1936 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:58,480 about their opinions pertaining to this 1937 01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,880 matter. This obviously is probably one 1938 01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:02,719 of the biggest things to happen to our 1939 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,760 community um in our time and probably 1940 01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:07,600 for the foreseeable future. I think a 1941 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,000 lot of us stood on the platform when we 1942 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:13,679 were running that we are here to 1943 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:15,600 advocate for growth and change. Um, I 1944 01:23:13,679 --> 01:23:18,480 still stand behind that because this is 1945 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:21,520 a very positive growth and change and 1946 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:24,000 opportunity for our city and I am 1947 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,679 grateful to constellation for being um 1948 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,840 very wonderful throughout this process 1949 01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:32,800 to uh be very open with us and answer a 1950 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:34,639 lot of concerns and um guide us through 1951 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,040 this process. So that's what I'd like to 1952 01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:38,320 say. Thank you. 1953 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,800 » Thank you, Commissioner Small. 1954 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,800 Commissioner Shai. 1955 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:47,440 So, um, 1956 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:49,600 I'm a hard no on this this evening for 1957 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:52,400 one reason. 1958 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:56,719 Lifechanging decisions 1959 01:23:52,400 --> 01:24:00,120 need more than one public meeting and an 1960 01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:00,120 immediate vote. 1961 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:06,560 » This could be the best deal in the world 1962 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:09,520 and it would be worth looking at 1963 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:11,760 publicly twice. 1964 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,679 Mike, there were multiple meetings 1965 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,760 pertaining to anything that would be 1966 01:24:13,679 --> 01:24:18,080 discussed. Would this, you know, 1967 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,000 scenario be prolonged? I believe you 1968 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:23,760 deliberately chosen not to attend those 1969 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,719 meetings. So to assume and to say, okay, 1970 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:28,880 » That wait, excuse me. To assume and say 1971 01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:31,840 that this is just a quick, you know, 1972 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:34,800 flash in the pan kind of decision is 1973 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:36,960 absolutely absurd and not truthful in 1974 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,520 any capacity. All of us have been 1975 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:42,320 working handinhand with each other, with 1976 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:44,880 the community and with constellation for 1977 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,520 a very long time to be informed and to 1978 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:49,199 do our due diligence and to do our due 1979 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,840 diligence 1980 01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:55,760 to get gain the information to provide 1981 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:57,920 to our community about this. And um just 1982 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,600 a heads up, I know you're not in support 1983 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,840 of it, but you were also not in support 1984 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,800 of the public meeting tonight either. 1985 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,719 Thank you. As a reminder, folks, the 1986 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,000 court clerk, 1987 01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:12,239 I'm sorry, folks, the court reporter is 1988 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,320 only able to take down one person as I 1989 01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:16,000 reminded you in the housekeeping uh 1990 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,440 rules at the start of this. Those rules 1991 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,000 are still in effect for this public 1992 01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:21,920 hearing. Please refrain from any further 1993 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:25,920 outburst because the court clerk is not 1994 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:29,920 able to take down those uh comments. 1995 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:32,719 » Okay. I uh I regret the personal ranker 1996 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,199 that I seem to have elicited from 1997 01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:38,320 Commissioner Small. 1998 01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:41,120 The reason why I did not meet one-on-one 1999 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:44,480 with Constellation attorneys is that 2000 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:47,600 untruthful statements have been made 2001 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:51,920 by Mayor Holland, 2002 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:54,960 including one on 8:30 2024 2003 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:57,840 that said we're unaware of any plans. 2004 01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:00,480 The only reason that we know that there 2005 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:03,679 was even discussion with constellation 2006 01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:07,520 was at a meeting we had noticed that 2007 01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:10,880 there was a bill uh a bill a legal bill. 2008 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:12,480 There had in point of fact been 2009 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,600 meetings 2010 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:17,360 that while specific plans, specific 2011 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,440 customers, what have you wouldn't have 2012 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,920 been there, it wasn't as if the city 2013 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:24,400 knew nothing. the city was in 2014 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,400 communication with constellation both 2015 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:29,040 legally and technically through our 2016 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,560 engineers and I don't think and this is 2017 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,560 not a complaint against constellation by 2018 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,280 the way um this is this is a complaint 2019 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,280 about the messaging of that date I 2020 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,199 really believe it made the residents get 2021 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,920 the impression that the city was unaware 2022 01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:45,199 of anything going on when indeed we were 2023 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:48,080 altogether active of what was going on 2024 01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:50,560 additionally commissioner Small um this 2025 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,719 city is being sued 2026 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:55,840 by its chief executive who is then 2027 01:26:52,719 --> 01:27:00,080 allowed to speak on behalf of the city 2028 01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:02,960 that creates um and due to alleged 2029 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,400 comments that were made on Facebook that 2030 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,480 I've never been given and I don't think 2031 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,679 the city's ever been given. I think that 2032 01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:12,320 when you have a um environment of 2033 01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:16,400 distrust that that kind of thing can 2034 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:19,199 create, it suggests the need for us to 2035 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:22,560 be publicly deliberative. Not just 2036 01:27:19,199 --> 01:27:26,080 deliberative at one meeting, but we have 2037 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:29,120 a bevy of experts here. The wisdom 2038 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:32,800 that's in this room is extraordinary. 2039 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:37,520 Uh, and on both the pros and the cons 2040 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:42,320 side, the economic possibilities for our 2041 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:45,040 sales are 100% not lost on me. I have 2042 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:48,080 roads that I would love to have paved. I 2043 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:50,000 have businesses on Main Street that I 2044 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,880 would love to be packed full of 2045 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,440 customers. Uh, and obviously sales tax 2046 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,000 revenue goes through that. Schools are 2047 01:27:55,440 --> 01:28:00,560 better funded. At the same time, a lot 2048 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,600 of us moved here from places like the 2049 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:05,440 city because it was affordable. I have a 2050 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,840 good faith concern that this could make 2051 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:10,239 things less affordable, that it was easy 2052 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:12,800 to get around. uh less affordable not in 2053 01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:16,880 terms of say city taxation but obviously 2054 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:20,239 in terms of uh properties rents going up 2055 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:23,120 for people due to housing issues 2056 01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:25,840 uh traffic increases that would lead to 2057 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:28,800 quality of life impacts potential 2058 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:31,280 environmental issues. Obviously, you 2059 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:35,199 have the question of brownfields. Uh, 2060 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:37,040 Nabiscoco was a was the main act in town 2061 01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:38,800 and they left and they left us with a 2062 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:42,000 building that we have been unable to 2063 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:43,679 deal with. And so, again, this could be 2064 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,400 the best deal in the world. this could 2065 01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:49,280 be the worst deal of the world or as far 2066 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:53,600 as I can tell there are real pluses and 2067 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:57,600 real minuses to any development but 2068 01:28:53,600 --> 01:29:00,400 particularly the creation of an emerging 2069 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:02,960 technology zone without even a clear 2070 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:05,120 customer. Maybe it's going to be a data 2071 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,800 center, maybe it's going to be 20, maybe 2072 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,239 it's going to end up being five data 2073 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,960 centers, maybe it's going to be five 2074 01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:12,880 data centers plus fuel storage. You 2075 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,040 know, there's 13 possible different 2076 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:18,080 categories in an emerging technology 2077 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:20,239 zone, emerging technologies district. 2078 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,159 And one reason that we maintain the 2079 01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:26,000 right as local governments to have 2080 01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:28,639 zoning is so that we can respond to 2081 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:31,199 conditions as they are on the ground. We 2082 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:33,360 have had plans that haven't gone the way 2083 01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:36,080 that we expected them to. We're sitting 2084 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,600 in a building that's what 3.23.3 2085 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:40,080 million. We thought it would be a 2086 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:42,480 million dollars less. We have Broadway 2087 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:45,360 Park that has been extraordinarily more 2088 01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:47,440 costly than we expected. The fact is is 2089 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:50,320 that the bestlaid plans of mice and men 2090 01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:52,320 do sometimes go astray. And I think that 2091 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:55,040 if we're going to commit to a 20-year 2092 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:57,199 annexation deal and a 40-year tax rebate 2093 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:59,520 plan, and do I have those dates 2094 01:29:57,199 --> 01:30:00,880 correctly, 20 and 40? Um, if we're going 2095 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,360 to commit to something so very 2096 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,840 long-term, I have to ask if we could 2097 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:09,199 have done better than $10 million in uh 2098 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:11,920 in upfront environmental impact fees. So 2099 01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:15,280 ultimately, it's not that no deal can be 2100 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:18,400 done. It's that having only one public 2101 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,920 hearing and then not giving people the 2102 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,400 chance to go home with the information 2103 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:24,800 that they've heard. Again, both the 2104 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,719 advantages and the disadvantages and 2105 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,120 having an immediate vote does not strike 2106 01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:31,840 me as the proper way to deal with 2107 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:34,960 something of such great importance. 2108 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:38,639 » Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. And um 2109 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:41,600 just just to make it perfectly clear, my 2110 01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:43,199 frustration is not your voting no. That 2111 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:45,440 is well within your right. I respect 2112 01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:47,679 that that is within your right. My 2113 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:50,480 frustration is your inability to perform 2114 01:30:47,679 --> 01:30:51,760 your fiduciary duties. You don't like 2115 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:56,000 something, but you're putting your 2116 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:58,400 personal feelings into the process when 2117 01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,239 our job is to make decisions based on 2118 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,840 the greater good, not because we were 2119 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:03,760 upset at something that was made. I 2120 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,120 agree that that situation was not 2121 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:08,159 handled well, but we're not here to 2122 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:10,159 discuss that. We're here to discuss that 2123 01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:12,719 since then. So many things have 2124 01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:14,960 happened. Since then, there have been a 2125 01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:16,639 bevy of steps that have gone into this 2126 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,440 whole ordeal that have landed us all in 2127 01:31:16,639 --> 01:31:21,360 this room today. Yet, you have chosen to 2128 01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:23,920 to abstain from doing that for your 2129 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:26,159 personal reasons. That is completely 2130 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:28,960 your deal. But I'm saying it is not fair 2131 01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:32,080 for you to say that we're sitting here 2132 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:33,679 making a very instantaneous spontaneous 2133 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,280 decision that we could have negotiated, 2134 01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:36,800 we could have done this. All of those 2135 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,280 steps have been taken. You just chose 2136 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,600 not to be a a part of that process. 2137 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,159 » Is this the first public hearing? I 2138 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,120 don't I with all due respect, this is a 2139 01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:46,639 20 and 40 year plan. 2140 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:50,800 » We're not going to go back and forth all 2141 01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:53,120 night. um that uh I 2142 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:55,679 » Greatly believe first of all I'm not 2143 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:59,040 saying it's an instantaneous 2144 01:31:55,679 --> 01:32:00,800 » Process. I do recognize as does everyone 2145 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,400 here that there have been prior 2146 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,360 conversations. 2147 01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:07,199 Do you recognize that the city of Marcel 2148 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,280 has not been straight with its residents 2149 01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:11,440 on other matters? 2150 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:14,080 I recognize that there are definitely 2151 01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:16,000 areas of opportunity, but I also 2152 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,480 recognize that while you can sit here 2153 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:21,600 every meeting and bring that up, you 2154 01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:23,840 need to recognize you as well have 2155 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,080 inabilities to perform your functions as 2156 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,760 well. So, until we can sit here and stop 2157 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,719 pointing fingers at people, Mike, we're 2158 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,080 never going to progress and move 2159 01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:31,520 forward. I'm not going to sit here and 2160 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,360 dwell on things from 2161 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,760 » I'm going to I'm going to stop this 2162 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:38,560 because it's unfortunate. 2163 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:41,280 Uh, every meeting, whether it's a public 2164 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,960 meeting or a city council meeting, we 2165 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,679 have to be the subject of personal 2166 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,679 attacks. 2167 01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:45,840 » Um, I I've made zero personal attacks. 2168 01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:46,400 You 2169 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,560 » Said you're done. 2170 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,000 » Um, no, Jim, I Jim, I with all due 2171 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,920 respect, Christina Gantlin, I have I 2172 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,360 have I have good faith questions or 2173 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,480 consolation that I would like to have 2174 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,080 answered. 2175 01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:57,600 » Mayor, 2176 01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:00,239 » Reminder 2177 01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,920 to all folks here, again, out of 2178 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:05,440 courtesy to the court reporter, she can 2179 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:07,040 only take down one individual at a time. 2180 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:09,280 Commissioner Shy, you've had an 2181 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:12,560 opportunity to speak. Do you have any 2182 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:14,080 further questions for Constellation? 2183 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:19,360 » I do. Thank you very much, Attorney 2184 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:24,040 Catlin. Um, have you yet been approached 2185 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,040 by a potential customer? 2186 01:33:27,440 --> 01:33:31,440 » Do I have a mic lit up over there? I 2187 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,120 can't see. 2188 01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:36,080 » Somebody gonna answer his question, 2189 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,080 please. 2190 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,480 Light them up, Jim. 2191 01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:41,040 » If you don't want to answer, that's 2192 01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:44,000 fine, too. 2193 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:46,239 » Yeah. Um, we constellation it does not 2194 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,560 have a customer at this time. 2195 01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:49,600 » Have you been approached by a potential 2196 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,199 customer? 2197 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,320 » It's the same answer. 2198 01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:56,800 » Okay. 2199 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:59,280 » Okay. Um we have um is there any 2200 01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:02,560 mechanism in this agreement to provide 2201 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:04,880 for the safe removal of facilities that 2202 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:07,760 are that are built like such that we're 2203 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:12,199 not in a brownfield matter 20 or 40 2204 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,199 years down the down the road. 2205 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:19,199 The development on the property will be 2206 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,560 governed by the codes that are set forth 2207 01:34:19,199 --> 01:34:22,880 in the agreement, including the 2208 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,800 international codes I referenced earlier 2209 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:27,199 and other codes not in conflict with 2210 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:29,520 those that are specifically listed. So, 2211 01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:31,760 I think um I would defer to the city's 2212 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,440 attorneys to weigh in on um the 2213 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:37,040 specifics to your question, but there 2214 01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:40,159 are um those development requirements 2215 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:42,080 that are built into the agreement. 2216 01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:43,920 I would add that the building codes are 2217 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:47,520 some of the strictest in the nation that 2218 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:49,520 they've uh agreed to adopt. They're even 2219 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:51,199 way above what we currently have in the 2220 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,440 city. 2221 01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:56,639 » And then uh the the last question I have 2222 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:58,880 and I appreciate your um appreciate your 2223 01:34:56,639 --> 01:35:02,080 patience with me and again I thank you 2224 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:03,920 for your interest in the area. 2225 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:08,639 Um, 2226 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:11,840 should local municipal demand lead to 2227 01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:14,239 higher electric bills? Are you willing 2228 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:16,080 to provide assistance to those who are 2229 01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:19,080 struggling, particularly those on fixed 2230 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,080 incomes, 2231 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:31,440 » Commissioner, I can tell you that is as 2232 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:33,040 Ryan indicated earlier that the cost of 2233 01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:34,719 electricity delivered to homes and 2234 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:38,320 businesses is not controlled by 2235 01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:40,639 constellation. Um, and as indicated by 2236 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,400 Mike Appington earlier and and John as 2237 01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:44,080 well, the VP of Lasel Station, 2238 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,480 development near the station keeps it 2239 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:48,480 viable. Um, and the station's clean 2240 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:50,960 power helps keep Illinois power prices 2241 01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:52,320 lower and Constellation's goal is to 2242 01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:55,679 provide emission free electricity at 2243 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:57,840 affordable prices. Um, I cannot say more 2244 01:35:55,679 --> 01:35:59,679 about the specifics of your question in 2245 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,239 answering your question at this time. 2246 01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:03,280 » Thank you. 2247 01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:06,000 » Thank you. I would also add that 2248 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:09,679 constellation does not service Marcel or 2249 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:11,120 Amron. It's apples and oranges. 2250 01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:12,000 Commissioner Buckingham, do you have 2251 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,800 anything? 2252 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,480 » Yeah, I've I've had the opportunity to 2253 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,000 meet with these uh people from 2254 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:20,800 Constellation 2255 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:23,600 and I'm very satisfied with the answers 2256 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:25,840 I've gotten. I wasn't afraid to ask 2257 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,360 questions. I think they give me honest 2258 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:29,280 answers. 2259 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:31,920 I've been to three or four four of their 2260 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:34,320 meetings once again. I mean, Mike, I 2261 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,560 know you you didn't show up for any, but 2262 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,040 I think everybody else in here did. You 2263 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,560 know, I 2264 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,840 » I'm also the only one being sued by the 2265 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,120 chief executive, sir. 2266 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,960 » I I'm not bringing that up. 2267 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,159 » Another personal attack. 2268 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,639 » I know that was a statement of fact, 2269 01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,080 sir. 2270 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:49,119 » I'm not bringing that up. I'm talking 2271 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:51,040 about me as a commissioner. Okay. I 2272 01:36:49,119 --> 01:36:54,560 think this is something we need to move 2273 01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:55,920 forward on with jobs 2274 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:58,880 right now. Now I think Bob mentioned a 2275 01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:01,840 few earlier but Nabiscoco brick factory 2276 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:04,320 only valley Sailor Shot Pharmacy Terry 2277 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:06,320 Bench Buick Texical gas station just to 2278 01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,719 name a few all the tax money we're 2279 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,239 losing. I think this is something that's 2280 01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:13,280 going to be very beneficial to Mars 2281 01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:16,480 sales and hope everybody out there's got 2282 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:18,800 my my support. I mean I've been on this 2283 01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:20,159 council for a long time. That's all I 2284 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,400 have. Thank you. 2285 01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,560 » Okay. Thank you. 2286 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,719 Call 2287 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,000 » The roll. Clerk read the roll. 2288 01:37:24,719 --> 01:37:26,560 » Commissioner Kaminsky 2289 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,520 » I. 2290 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,080 » Small 2291 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,719 » I. 2292 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,520 » Sh. 2293 01:37:28,719 --> 01:37:30,320 » No. 2294 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:30,960 » Buckingham. 2295 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,320 » Hi. 2296 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,080 » Mayor Hollandbeck. 2297 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,719 » I. 2298 01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,080 » Number two. 2299 01:37:34,719 --> 01:37:37,679 » Back to your mic. 2300 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,880 » Moved by Commissioner Kaminsky that 2301 01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:43,760 ordinance 1897, an ordinance annexing 2302 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:46,800 certain territory to the city of Marcel, 2303 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,920 Lasel County, Illinois be adopted. 2304 01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,960 » Do I have a second? 2305 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,639 » I'll second it. 2306 01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:54,239 » Is there any further discussion that 2307 01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:55,760 hasn't already been covered? 2308 01:37:54,239 --> 01:37:56,800 Clerk will read the roll. 2309 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,520 » Commissioner Kaminsky. 2310 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,159 » Hi. 2311 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:58,800 » Small. 2312 01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,360 » I. 2313 01:37:58,800 --> 01:37:59,840 » Sh. 2314 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:00,560 » No. 2315 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,199 » Buckingham. 2316 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,159 » Hi. 2317 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:04,239 » Mayor Holland back. 2318 01:38:02,159 --> 01:38:06,639 » Hi. 2319 01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:10,119 » Okay. This uh let's do a motion to 2320 01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:10,119 adjourn this. 2321 01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:17,360 » Thank you. Uh now entertain a motion to 2322 01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:19,440 adjourn this special meeting. 2323 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,760 And it's 2 minutes to six. So we'll take 2324 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:23,360 another 3, four, 5 minute break if 2325 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,080 anybody needs to use the facility. 2326 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,840 Second 2327 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,239 » And then we'll start the uh regular 2328 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,719 meeting. 2329 01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:28,320 » I second. 2330 01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:30,080 » Moved by Commissioner Buckingham. The 2331 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,480 city council now adjourn. 2332 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,440 » Folks, 2333 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:33,199 » I got to close my 2334 01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:35,440 » Wait, we got to call roll. 2335 01:38:33,199 --> 01:38:37,119 » The mayor move. 2336 01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:37,600 » Commission one. We got a clerical read 2337 01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:38,719 to roll. 2338 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,280 » Commissioner Kaminsky. 2339 01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:39,760 » Hi. 2340 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,880 » Small. 2341 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,520 » I shy. 2342 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,239 » Hi. 2343 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:42,719 » Buckingham. 2344 01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:46,480 » Hi. 2345 01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:46,480 » Mayor Hollandbeck. I