1 00:21:00,234 --> 00:21:02,254 [music] 2 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,919 Are we sure? Can you hear me? 3 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:19,840 » Hello? >> Yes, I can hear you. Melissa, 4 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:23,720 » can you hear me? Yes. Okay. 5 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,840 » Can you see the agenda on the screen? 6 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:36,520 » No, I can't. >> What do you see? 7 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:51,440 » I see that webcams are hidden. I think it's because I don't have the Wi-Fi on 8 00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:54,880 for all the webcams to be on. So, I think that's on my end. But, let me try 9 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:57,880 to get that on. >> Okay. 10 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:22,280 » Alicia, I see council chambers, but no. camera and then the podium. So, it's me, 11 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,280 council chambers, and podium. 12 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:31,640 » Okay, we're working on it. >> Thank you. 13 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,919 » Wow. Okay. All 14 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,950 right. Well, we should still [laughter] 15 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,400 I went home. 16 00:23:43,919 --> 00:23:47,480 Hey, how's it going? 17 00:24:06,256 --> 00:24:13,640 » [laughter] >> I was thinking 18 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,640 » jazz 19 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:27,559 think I just ignored it. 20 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:57,480 something and I have this conversation. 21 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,440 Yeah. Yeah. 22 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,120 Yeah. 23 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:37,080 I was a little 24 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,279 » weekend. 25 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,840 My best friend always texts me. She'll be like, 26 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000 "Thanks for 27 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,120 Are all you guys? 28 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:26,480 Alicia, can you ask her if she can see the screen? 29 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:32,320 » Melissa, can you see something different on the screen now? 30 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:39,320 No, it still just has the CC for council chambers and the 31 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,320 you know like the P for the podium. 32 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,559 » Can you click on the podium one and make that your view? 33 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:20,039 taxpayers. >> Yes, they are. 34 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Yeah. 35 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:59,960 It says camera camera is off for the podium and the council chambers, Alicia. 36 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,960 So, 37 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:07,520 » okay. I don't think we're going to be able to change the view. So, you will 38 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:14,760 have to pull up the YouTube feed if you want to see what's being viewed. 39 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760 » Okay. 40 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,000 I don't think so. 41 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:09,039 I call this meeting to order of the Marshalltown City Council Chambers. We 42 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:15,200 are in City Hall at 10 West State Street. It's August 24th, 2026 at 5:30 43 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,760 p.m. Would you please all join me for the pledge of 44 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,760 » allegiance 45 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:30,080 to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 46 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:33,279 stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 47 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:38,000 for all. >> Amen. 48 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:43,520 » Thank you. Can we have roll call, please? Cahill 49 00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,600 » here. Bonka >> here. Mitchell 50 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:46,640 » here. >> Nicholls 51 00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:47,600 » here. >> Schneider 52 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440 » here. >> Thompson 53 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,679 » here. >> Yep. Gomez 54 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,520 » here. >> Okay, moving on to public comments. 55 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:02,480 Members of the public may make comments on any item that is not on the agenda at 56 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:07,120 this time. The speaker shall approach the microphone and state their name and 57 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:12,080 address. Comment shall be limited to three minutes unless a longer comment is 58 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:17,440 authorized by the mayor. [clears throat] The speaker shall direct comments to the 59 00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:24,000 mayor and council as a whole. The mayor and council may not provide a response 60 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:28,320 to a public comment, but shall shall not engage in discussion or debate items 61 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:32,960 raised by members of the public. No action may be taken on items raised in 62 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:39,480 public comments to comply with Iowa's open meeting laws. With that, the 63 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,480 microphone is open. 64 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:52,159 Hello, Lane period 20 East State Street. Uh, believe it or not, I did not set out 65 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:55,679 to wage a holy war on data centers. I just wanted to make sure the community I 66 00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:59,360 live in was protected and considered before a major development took place. 67 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:02,799 That's all. But the amount of push back I have received from council members and 68 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,320 from organizations invested in these projects has been disheartening and 69 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:09,519 unexpected. I'm not the type to walk away though. I care about this town and 70 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,200 I hope we can work together to make Marshalltown the best it can be for 71 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,559 everyone who calls it home. The public asked for a moratorum because we needed 72 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:20,799 time to understand what data centers meant for Marshalltown. Since then, 73 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,760 public pressure has only grown. And now, before the moratorium is finished, 74 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,919 before planning and zoning presents a final draft, before the public gets to 75 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:32,080 attend the city hosted round table, we're having a data center developer 76 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,600 present a project. This is happening before the rules are written, before the 77 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,679 public process is complete, and before the moratorium is active. That does not 78 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,919 look right. It does not feel right, and it does not build trust. Edgewood is 79 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,640 inside city limits. The land being discussed is city-owned. when a 80 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:52,000 developer presents a project and >> public comment is for things that are 81 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,039 not on the agenda. >> Okay. 82 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:58,159 » And these are on the agenda. So if you have something other than something 83 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,720 that's on the agenda. [snorts] >> Yes. 84 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:06,159 Right now the public is seeing a lot of things that look like decisions are 85 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,679 being made behind the scenes. The only expert the city has had speak at council 86 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:13,600 meetings so far has been Align Energy's lead community engagement consultant for 87 00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:17,519 data centers, Kylie Miller. He has spoken at length at both council and 88 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,360 planning and zoning. He is not a neutral party. His job is to promote data center 89 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,960 development. The public has not yet heard from independent experts, 90 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:28,960 environmental experts, infrastructure experts, or anyone who is not directly 91 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:32,240 tied to the industry. Our Marshalltown Area Chamber of Commerce, which is also 92 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,440 the city's contracted head of economic development, has their branding and 93 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,039 contact info on a data center development packet that was found on 94 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,720 their website. This was at the same time that we were told there were no real 95 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:46,559 proposals or plans. He has also helped launch a new organization growing Iowa's 96 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:51,679 economy to publicly advocate for data centers both online and in printed 97 00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:55,760 media. Councilman Snyder spent almost $3,000 on a full page color ad in the 98 00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:59,360 Times Republican insisting that those of us with concerns are making mountains 99 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,360 out of mole hills. And yet I can count on one hand how many residents have told 100 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,799 me they have no concerns. The local government works for the residents. All 101 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,480 of us. Not just the people who want this project. Not just the people who are 102 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,839 excited about data centers. not just the people who have already made up their 103 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:17,520 minds. We need a process we can trust. We need transparency and we need 104 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,040 honesty. And we need to slow down enough to make sure that Marshalltown's future 105 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:26,520 is shaped by the people who live here, not by outside pressure. Thank you. 106 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,520 » Thank you, Lane. 107 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,639 Anyone else? 108 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:40,399 » Maggie Valentine, 2345 Whispering Oaks Road. Um, I [clears throat] just want to 109 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:43,119 just last time, um, I think some people were a little bit confused about what 110 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,639 items we'd be allowed to speak on and which ones we wouldn't be allowed to 111 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:49,839 speak on. Um, so I just wanted to ask right now so that I'm not confused and 112 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:53,839 don't miss the chance. Um, are the discussion like Jay, the discussion 113 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,480 items, are we going to be allowed to comment on those tonight? 114 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,839 » We will be. >> Yes. That's why the public comment is 115 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,280 held for things that are not >> just there was just confusion about 116 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,000 whether or not we would need a motion to be allowed to speak on those items or 117 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,599 not. So just >> I will ask for public comment. 118 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,599 » Thank you. 119 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,359 » Anyone else? 120 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:25,040 » Okay, we have mayor, councel, and administrator 121 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:29,440 comments. Does anyone have anything? >> Sue, 122 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:33,520 » thank you, your honor. I I this slipped my mind the last meeting that we were 123 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,640 here, but a friend of mine who had commented several times on um the fact 124 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,760 that we were spending some, you know, spending some money on the bridge on the 125 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:50,800 other items, but she said during RagBry, her adult children who live in larger 126 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:57,440 cities outside of Iowa came back and that they were floored at how well 127 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:04,000 Marshall Town presented itself. between the um aquatic center, the water 128 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:09,280 plaza, the the biking bridge, the um Franklin Field, the downtown plaza. She 129 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:13,520 said she had to she said, "I have to apologize to you because I was 130 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,800 complaining to you that we're we're just doing things wrong." But but she said 131 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:23,440 they really were amazed at how well Marshall Town looked and the support of 132 00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:26,880 the people in it. So, I wanted to pass that on. Thanks to all of our people who 133 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:29,040 have been involved in all of these projects that we're working on. Thank 134 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,920 you. >> Okay. Anyone else? 135 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,880 Um I'm going to follow up on something that uh Sue said. Does anyone remember 136 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:44,000 Denise Long? >> Great great basketball player for uh 137 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:49,200 Union Whitten. Uh I believe it was in the late 60s, early 70s, something like 138 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:57,119 that. Well, Denise has moved on and and she ended up being a uh uh 139 00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:02,800 pharmacist down in Arizona, but she still has uh family up here that she 140 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:09,599 comes up and visits every 6 months to a year. And the last time she came up just 141 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:13,760 recently and walked downtown, she commented about what an upgrade 142 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:18,000 Marshalltown is, how much it's changed and looking so much better than what she 143 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:24,400 always remembered Marshall Town what it was. So I I do agree with Sue. Uh we're 144 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:32,040 getting there. Okay, moving on to years of service. The 145 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:32,040 police department 146 00:37:34,536 --> 00:37:36,556 » [clears throat] 147 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,480 » Now he's >> look so nice. 148 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,960 » Hey, thanks. >> Uh Chris Jones, chief of police. Um 149 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:58,560 tonight we have two opportunities to celebrate two of our staff members um 150 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:06,720 with some ma major milestones. Um the first one uh is our five-year milestone 151 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:10,720 for uh Adon. Adon um was our 2023 employee of the year, right? Even with a 152 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,680 a little almost two years on the department, um has really uh kind of 153 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,760 turned a tide on on the culture of our agency. And if you can kind of tell 154 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:24,160 between I know he's not smiling now, but he has a very infectious smile and a 155 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:29,359 very positive attitude uh that kind of carries over to to all of our staff. So, 156 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,880 part of Adon's duties, uh, he's currently works night shift, a field 157 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:37,760 training officer for all of our young people and and specifically picked 158 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:42,880 because of his patience and his ability to not only uh train others and and has 159 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:47,440 had a background in training defensive tactics and boxing to to youth. Um, one 160 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:52,160 of the things I'm particularly proud of is you grew up here in Marshalltown. So, 161 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:58,160 he's a Marshalltown uh native uh that we were able to to hire. Um he is part of 162 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:03,119 our child seat safety team and can and and able to use uh bilingual skills to 163 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:08,400 be able to to help families uh better suit their children in child seats plus 164 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:15,040 uh do help us do outreach throughout the community. Um, Adon's been a tremendous 165 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:20,160 asset for us and um and throughout his career has always been a positive um 166 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:26,000 motivator especially working nights at bringing a positive light to to some of 167 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:31,040 those officers that work overnight. But um he's a tremendous uh has a tremendous 168 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:35,767 career ahead of him and I want to thank you for your five years of service. 169 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,767 » INDEED. [applause] 170 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,317 SPEECH. [applause] 171 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,440 SPEECH. SPEECH. 172 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:51,487 [laughter] 173 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,207 OKAY, PERFECT. >> DAVE. 174 00:40:05,187 --> 00:40:07,207 [clears throat] 175 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:16,400 » OKAY, so Dave Dave and I started on the police department in the 1900s. Yeah. 176 00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:21,920 [laughter] >> Um we are officially um the last 20th 177 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:28,800 century law enforcement officers on the department. And um one of the um aspects 178 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:33,440 of of Dave is we uh when he moved to Marshalltown uh from the Iowa City area, 179 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:39,599 » uh we lived in the same apartment complex uh and same apartment building I 180 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,520 guess actually uh and became uh very close friends in the in the last uh 30 181 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:48,800 years for sure. >> Um Dave has been on a variety of 182 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:53,599 different areas within our uh agency. Has been a field training officer much 183 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:58,640 like Adon. um carries an aspect of investigations and and traffic that we 184 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,560 had um had helped pass on to many of the officers that are sitting in the back 185 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:09,040 here helping to recognize both Adon and and Dave. Um we were on the SWAT team uh 186 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:13,599 together for for a number of years have a a number of of stories back and forth 187 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:18,960 which will you you can tell them privately that's perfectly fine. But um 188 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,160 one of the things that uh that he did and I hope it's a pinnacle of your 189 00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:27,440 career is he helped us with our mid Iowa drug task force for a number of years as 190 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:32,079 an undercover drug investigator. And um one of the things that I've always 191 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:37,599 valued uh about Dave for sure is he's always uh been open uh with me and 192 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,000 department leadership about changes that need to be done in the department. when 193 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:46,319 he hears those from staff, uh Dave's an excellent listener, uh and then he 194 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,839 passes that information. So, a lot of the times employees would be reluctant 195 00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:53,599 to maybe come forward to leadership to to make those changes and Dave's been 196 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:59,520 the spokesperson um in a very respectful way uh to be 197 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,960 able to get some of those changes. And uh when you take and look back on a 198 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,800 30-year career, it's um there's countless amounts of things that I can 199 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:13,520 think of uh versus technology and scheduling uh that we have developed 200 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:17,599 that Dave has um been the front runner in in making sure that those things 201 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,640 happen and and standing behind his decisions. And one of the things that 202 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:25,359 Dave has always done is if you came up with a problem, you always had a 203 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:29,359 solution for us to do. And I'm I'm um very proud of you and your 30 years of 204 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,909 service. And um I'm glad you're here. Thank you. 205 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,929 » Thank you. [applause] 206 00:42:39,114 --> 00:42:41,134 [applause] 207 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,960 Hey. Uh Chief Cross. 208 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:09,899 Thank you, uh, Mr. Mayor and Council. I'd like to introduce you to the real 209 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,599 fire chief. [laughter] 210 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:17,760 » This This is, uh, Maria Ramirez, and she's my and she's my office manager, 211 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:25,200 and she's indispensable to me, >> and she's, uh, celebrating a 5-year, uh, 212 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:29,680 milestone in service tonight. And I just I just can't thank you enough. It seems 213 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:34,560 like only yesterday you you uh you came to the department, but yet it feels like 214 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:42,000 forever because you do such a good job. So congratulations on 5 years. Um 215 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,980 love to have you for as long as you'll have us. So thank you. [applause] 216 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:54,000 » Yeah. So we're going to ambush uh we're going 217 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:57,359 to ambush Maria um just a little bit. Um, I got minding my own business. Your 218 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,800 honor, if you permit me, just a little latitude here. 219 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,480 » Um, sitting in my office, minding my own business, and I get an email from 220 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,560 Sergeant Roush from the police department, and I'm like, "Oh, boy." And 221 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:14,000 it's about one of my employees, and I'm like, "Okay, uh, who got pulled 222 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:17,599 over or who crashed into something or, you know, somebody got in trouble off 223 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:23,599 duty and we got to do something crazy." Uh, but it was none of those things. And 224 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:28,079 the email focused around um a law enforcement 225 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:33,920 uh interaction um that Sergeant Roush had to do his business at a local 226 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:38,960 business at a local uh a merkantile establishment 227 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:45,280 and the people that were involved uh in Sergeant Rous's business uh the the male 228 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:51,200 part of the uh of the duo, the husband and wife um had to go clear up some 229 00:44:48,800 --> 00:45:02,000 loose ends with um Sergeant Rous's people and the wife of the the duo was 230 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:07,920 left stranded um with a language barrier um at at uh out of business. 231 00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:10,240 And so Sergeant Rash wrote me an email and I'm going to give you some excerpts 232 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:14,480 from this if that's cool and then you can offer some commentary afterwards. 233 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:21,839 Um, so you kind of know the premise of the setup and we'll call the person that 234 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:24,880 Maria helped Mrs. G. Cool. Uh, I was unable to clearly communicate with her 235 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:29,599 using the language line to find out why she was so scared. Um, I was able to get 236 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,720 her to agree to come to the PD PD to talk to Impact through an interpreter. 237 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,520 Um, I found out on the way to the PD that Impact was out of town. they were 238 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,520 they were busy doing other things for other people in other places and that 239 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,400 the only Spanish speaking officer on duty was uh out of service or tied up on 240 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,240 something else. So, Sergeant Rash is dealing with a problem trying to 241 00:45:54,160 --> 00:46:00,319 communicate um and trying to help somebody who's not involved with law 242 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:04,319 enforcement get them stable, get them home. Um and he had no way to do that. 243 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:07,280 So, he's like, "Well, I'm just going to come to the PD and we're going to see if 244 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:15,760 Impact can come and talk." So then she he saw Maria and asked Maria to come out 245 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:23,520 and talk with Mrs. G. And not only did Maria save the day for Sergeant Roush in 246 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:28,640 getting the the Mrs. G from where she was to where she needed to be in a safe 247 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:36,800 and stable manner. She helped Mrs. G figure it all out and become at peace, 248 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:41,359 so to speak, with what was happened. Um, one of the things that um that was most 249 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:46,400 striking to me about Sergeant Roush's email, 250 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:51,359 uh, he he says, "In reality, Maria stepped up and helped Mrs. G in a time 251 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:55,599 where her where her world felt like it was coming apart. Not only was she 252 00:46:53,839 --> 00:47:00,720 willing, but she was incredibly effective and empathetic on somebody's 253 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:05,280 worst day. Her actions bring credit to her, the Marshalltown Fire Department, 254 00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:10,640 and the city of Marshalltown. So, because of that email, we I I talked 255 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:16,160 with my command staff and we have a a policy that we can award um 256 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:18,802 accommodations to our staff based on performance. So, that's what we're going 257 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:24,000 to do tonight. >> [snorts] 258 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:30,480 » Um, so we are we're going to award Maria the certificate of meritorious conduct 259 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,920 and and what it what it says is for exceptional performance in a 260 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:38,480 non-emergency situation providing exceptional and compassionate service to 261 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:42,079 those in need. And I put the quote from Sergeant Rous's email underneath the 262 00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:46,960 description that she was not only willing but incredibly effective and 263 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,400 empathetic on somebody's worst day. Her actions bring credit to her, the 264 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:55,040 Marshalltown Fire Department, and the city of Marshalltown. And that signed by 265 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,158 me. And congratulations. We're very, very proud of you. [applause] 266 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,053 You'd like to offer some commentary. [applause] 267 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,440 All right. So, as a police officer, one of the hardest 268 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:15,839 things you can do is is realize that you can't handle a situation by yourself. 269 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:21,760 and the other is actually asking for help. And as I was driving back from 270 00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:25,440 this establishment to to uh the PD, it took me 25 minutes to get this lady to 271 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:29,359 actually get into the car with me. And as I'm going to the PD, they tell me 272 00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:33,839 that Impact's not in town and that our only Spanish speaking officer is in 273 00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:38,400 court. And I'm think I don't I don't I have no idea what I'm going to do. And I 274 00:48:35,839 --> 00:48:40,880 walked into the PD and I saw Maria and I was like, I don't even know if she 275 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,800 speaks Spanish, but I sure hope she does. [laughter] 276 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,760 So, I go in and I I kind of fill her in as to what's going on. And I explain 277 00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:54,079 that I don't have any rapport with this lady. We had just arrested her husband 278 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:58,480 and she was, if I had to explain the fear that she was in, it was like a like 279 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:05,520 a four-year-old missing their parents in a in a uh in a store. Um, and so I I 280 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:08,880 told her that and I said, I I didn't ask her to interpret for me. I asked her to 281 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:12,319 intervene. So, she actually went out by herself and talked to this lady and she 282 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,480 came back in like two minutes. I'm like, that was quick. And she's like, "I'm not 283 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,599 done yet." She grabbed some some tissues and then brought them out and continued 284 00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:22,400 to talk with her. And she was able to figure out what the problem was. And 285 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,920 that was the that was the biggest issue that I had, especially using language 286 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,880 line is I didn't know what the problem was. Why was she so emotional? Why was 287 00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:34,400 she so distraught? And so, she was able to figure that out. And at about that 288 00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:37,520 time, Impact was able to, you know, show back up and she was able to interpret 289 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:43,359 for them and they were able to to come to a a resolution to this this problem, 290 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,839 at least for the day. Um, so I I appreciate that, Maria. It was it was uh 291 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,079 um you really you really helped me out that day. I'd like to say that she 292 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,349 helped me out, but she really did. She helped she helped her out. So, I 293 00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:57,369 appreciate that. Thank you. [applause] 294 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:07,680 » Thank you, Y. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. 295 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:10,240 » Okay, moving on to the consent agenda. Number nine, 296 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:12,400 » I have a motion to make before the consent agenda. 297 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,280 » Excuse me. >> Oh, I have uh I have a motion to make. I 298 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:22,000 let Alicia know that I would like to do a order of business motion. 299 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:25,920 » Let's Let's do that right after the consent agenda. 300 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,480 » I think it has to be before. No, >> you do it before. 301 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:33,599 » Okay, go ahead and make a motion. >> Okay. Yeah. Um, so since I'm guessing 302 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:40,000 most of the people here are for the data center stuff, um, I would like to make a 303 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:43,800 motion to change items I, J, and K right after the consent agenda. 304 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:52,200 » I hear a second. >> I'll second that. 305 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,200 » Any questions or comments? 306 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:55,880 » Roll call, please. 307 00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,559 Mitchell, >> yes. 308 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,680 » Nicholls, >> yes. 309 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,480 » Schneider, >> yes. 310 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:10,559 » Thompson, >> yes. 311 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:13,280 » Yep. Gomez, >> yes. 312 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,160 » KL, >> yes. 313 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,160 » Bonka. 314 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,200 Pone 315 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,920 » one more time. >> Ponea. 316 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:42,880 » The motion did pass. >> And our microphones. Now if you just 317 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,880 push the button and it'll leave it on. 318 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:54,000 Okay, that will be moved. So, let's move on to 319 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:57,920 the consent agenda. Item number nine has been requested to be pulled from the 320 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:05,800 consent agenda. Can I get a motion to approve? Uh, 321 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,800 » move to approve, your honor. 322 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:13,960 It was after the consent agenda. 323 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:20,960 » Second. >> Any other questions or comments? 324 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,400 » Roll call, please. >> Nicholls, 325 00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:23,280 » yes. >> Schneider, 326 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,400 » yes. >> Thompson, 327 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,599 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 328 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,800 » yes. >> Cahill, 329 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,800 » yes. Bonka. 330 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:37,000 » Mitchell, >> yes. 331 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000 Okay. 332 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,720 Now Steve, do we move to item number nine then? 333 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,599 » No. Resolution to approve the code building 334 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,000 upgrade grant application for St. Mary's Catholic Church at 11 Westland Street, 335 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:15,000 Marshalltown, Iowa. >> I hear a motion for approval. 336 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,000 » So move. 337 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:26,559 » Second. >> Okay, let's open it up for discussion. 338 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:31,040 » Thank you, your honor. The reason I pulled this is I think we need 339 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:38,880 clarification on just what we're doing with the grants 340 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:45,760 for buildings downtown. Um I'm not opposed to this, but this brings up a 341 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:51,440 golden opportunity to clarify what buildings, what businesses, what 342 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:58,079 structures qualify for the grants that we give out. Um, 343 00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:03,200 last year we gave a grant to the Elks Lodge and they own that building and 344 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:08,400 that was a nonprofit. I apologize for not catching it then because 345 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:14,480 there are some people that believe these grants are for taxpaying businesses and 346 00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:20,640 that these grants would be recouped in higher assessments and uh therefore they 347 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,640 were the only ones that qualified. Well, we gave the one to the Elks last year. 348 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:30,000 Now, we're probably gonna give this one to the church. But in talking to 349 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:37,119 Danielle, and Danielle will correct me if I put words in her mouth, but the way 350 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:45,000 the grant criteria is written, we say a commercial building. 351 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:45,000 So, and the the the 352 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:52,400 re the I don't know how to say this, the determining factor that it's a 353 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:58,720 commercial building is the county's assessor's office. So, in this case, you 354 00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:04,240 know, Elks Lodge and St. Mary's Church, they're both commercial buildings. Now, 355 00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:11,599 where it gets ugly is, and I'm going to use the Benford House as an example, the 356 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:18,480 Benford House, which is a nonprofit, it according to the county's assessor 357 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:24,640 site, it is not a commercial building. It is a residential building. 358 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:29,760 So, so now we're we're we're splitting some hairs again that some nonprofits 359 00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:37,680 qualify for the grants and some nonprofits do. So I guess I'm using this 360 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:43,200 opportunity that we need to have a discussion 361 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:50,160 probably not here but later that we need input from the public 362 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:55,920 um and obviously the MCBD that are these grants for everybody that 363 00:55:52,960 --> 00:56:01,280 has a structure inside the central business district boundaries because the 364 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:08,000 intent is to make the central business district look nice or is this truly just 365 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:13,920 for commercial buildings based on the Marshall County Assessor's website? 366 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:19,599 So, I'm just planting a seed for the public how they feel about this because 367 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:24,799 these grants obviously are repaid down the road through, you know, if these are 368 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:29,040 facade grants that later the buildings would be assessed at a higher value 369 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:36,160 obviously and we would get we would recoup the money comes out of the tiff 370 00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:41,960 zone. So, that's my spiel. Um, did you want to correct anything or add 371 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:41,960 to that? 372 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:50,720 The only correction I have is I don't Oh, I'm sorry. Danielle Leakan, 373 00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:54,880 executive director of the Marshalltown Central Business District. Uh, the only 374 00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:00,720 correction I have is I didn't know what definition to utilize for commercial 375 00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:05,440 when processing this grant. So commercial, does that mean for profofit? 376 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:09,520 Well, I was aware of the precedent of a nonprofit previously getting a grant. So 377 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:13,760 that obviously does not mean that. So then it's well does city code define 378 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,680 commercial? No, there is no definition in city code of what commercial is. And 379 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,720 so there was just a lot of conversation around bringing this grant application 380 00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:27,119 forward and I could not find any reason not to. It felt like it complied with 381 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:32,079 everything that was stipulated. Um but councelor Thompson did raise a good 382 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:37,280 point that Benford House operates commercially as a nonprofit, but they 383 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:40,480 are they are classed as residential by the county assessor site. And so it's 384 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:47,319 really just seeking some clarification about who's eligible and who isn't. Um, 385 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,119 does anyone else have anything on this? 386 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:59,559 » I do agree at a later date we probably need to uh clarify that. 387 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,680 » Yes. 388 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:16,880 Mark Eaton, 107 South 10th Avenue. As Gary has as Mr. Thompson has uh 389 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:22,559 pointed out, this is tax increment finance money which comes out of the 390 00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:28,480 general fund which has a hole in it. And in my opinion, we shouldn't be doing any 391 00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:34,480 facade grants. But um that's just my opinion. The other side of it is a 392 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:41,320 nonprofit. We've stopped we we are we are working hard to stop giving taxpayer 393 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:46,160 money to nonprofits. [cough and laughter] 394 00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:51,280 You are basically forcing the taxpayer to give a donation to a nonprofit 395 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:57,359 because they don't pay property taxes. And I think there should be enough 396 00:58:53,760 --> 00:59:01,200 investors in the community to support the nonprofits. 397 00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:05,760 We have stopped giving money to the MAC building. Um, yes, we give money to the 398 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,839 art alliance, but that's because they're under contract to do work. Yes, we give 399 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:16,240 money to the chamber because they're under contract to do work, 400 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:20,640 but we shouldn't be giving non taxpayer money to nonprofits. Thank you. 401 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:29,280 I I would just chime in that, you know, whether a property qualifies as 402 00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:34,480 commercial or not is going to be a legal question. And I'd be happy to weigh in 403 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:38,880 on that um in a more private setting without waving confidentiality if 404 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:43,200 someone uh sees fit to pose that question to me. 405 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:47,760 » I think that would be wise. Um, your honor, 406 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:53,200 if we were to have these discussions to get a better definition for the 407 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:58,559 boundaries of the m the central business district, how long do you think that 408 00:59:55,359 --> 01:00:05,280 would take? I mean, would it be worth postponing this one until we finish that 409 01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:12,880 conversation? Because I'm assuming that we would set that policy by resolution. 410 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:16,480 Here we go. I would think a month anyway. I don't see a lot of changes in 411 01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:20,160 it. >> Okay. So, since these grants are 412 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:25,040 reimbursements, there [clears throat] really is 413 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:29,280 no reason to pass this through tonight. They can wait 414 01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:35,079 a month. They can still do their work. I don't think they're going to Oh, they're 415 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,079 not. Oh, come on. 416 01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:41,119 Danielle Leak, executive director of the Marshon Central Business District. They 417 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:46,482 cannot start work until the grant has been approved. So it would delay their 418 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,482 project. [snorts] 419 01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:53,599 » That's one of the criteria we do agree on. Yeah. 420 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,599 » Okay. Is there any other questions or comments? 421 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,400 » Just what one more comment. >> Okay. 422 01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:06,319 » If I may. >> Yes. 423 01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:11,359 Um what makes this really interesting the 424 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:17,040 way the central business district is is uh defined 425 01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:23,200 my house is in the boundaries of the central business district where I rent. 426 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:26,520 So under the current rules my landlord 427 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,839 could possibly get a grant to fix his rental property. 428 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,839 I think you had to fix your van first, actually. 429 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:48,040 » And I want to thank uh Officer Powell and the chief for not reminiscing about 430 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,040 their time together in my van. 431 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,200 Okay, >> Mr. Mayor, I have a question for Steve. 432 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:59,160 So, Steve, would you recommend us to vote no on this and then just get 433 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,160 clarification on commercial 434 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:07,480 » postpone it or >> I guess it depends on if folks think 435 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,480 they need 436 01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:19,000 » would one month be you know for for one month to get clarity on what commercial 437 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,000 is would that affect the church. 438 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,839 » Given that this is an outdoor construction project and it's already 439 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:30,720 August, I would say yes, that would negatively impact their project. 440 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:33,680 » I mean, I feel like they applied under good faith as the rules currently exist. 441 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,880 Okay. >> And I think if you want to change the 442 01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:40,720 rules, I think that's >> that's a conversation we can have, but I 443 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:46,799 don't think we should change the rules. >> Okay. now for this application 444 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:51,440 » and I think I can weigh in just on a pretty shallow level without reviewing 445 01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:57,040 any of the other grant applications or materials. Generally a property whether 446 01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:03,920 it's residential, commercial, etc. is determined by use and zoning as opposed 447 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:09,200 to owner. Um, so if a propertyy's commercial in nature and zoned 448 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:14,400 commercial, uh, whether it's a for-profit or a nonprofit doesn't 449 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:18,079 really factor into that equation generally. Again, I haven't looked at 450 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:25,000 the specific grant applications or anything that might shift that. 451 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,000 » And this property is zoned urban core. 452 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:35,920 I guess my my own opinion is to move forward forward with this one, but then 453 01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:40,480 uh take a good look at uh how how the wording is and if we should change it 454 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:46,920 and bring it back to council. So 455 01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:46,920 with that, anyone else? 456 01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:50,079 Roll call, please. >> Schneider, 457 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,760 » yes. >> Thompson, 458 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,640 » yes. Yep. >> Gomez, 459 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,200 » yes. >> Kahill, 460 01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:00,720 » yes. phone. Um, Melissa asked that I uh vote yes for her. Mitchell, 461 01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,680 » yes. >> Nicholls, 462 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:09,039 » yes. >> Okay, now we're going. Your honor, point 463 01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:13,880 of order. Do we have Melissa still on? >> She's listening but can't speak. 464 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:23,359 » So, she's going through uh Carol's phone. 465 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:26,359 Okay. Uh moving on to uh item number I, ordinances. 466 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:37,680 » Ordinance 15123 on the amendment to chapter 156 of the code of ordinances of 467 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:41,760 the city of Marshtown, Iowa, establishing a temporary data center 468 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:44,160 moratorium. Second reading. >> Okay. 469 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:49,039 » Move for approval. >> Second. 470 01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:53,960 » I have a motion and a second. Would you like to give us just a quick update, 471 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,960 Clayton? 472 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,880 » Good evening, Clayton Ender, assistant director housing community development. 473 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:03,119 This is your second reading on this item. Uh there have been no changes 474 01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:08,240 proposed to it since your first reading, but a quick little synopsis of the 475 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:12,960 ordinance is it would establish a moratorum uh a four-month mortorium 476 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:18,079 based on your July 13th meeting date when you made the original motion. Uh so 477 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:23,839 that would go to November I didn't write it down here 23rd 478 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:28,400 of this year. Uh it is there is a provision included within the ordinance 479 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:33,520 to grant the city council the authority to do a one-time 60-day extension if 480 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:39,440 it's found additional time is needed to study uh study the topic or to process 481 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:44,079 any amendments through the legal process. Um any additional extensions 482 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:48,640 beyond that one one time 60 days would be subsequent ordinance uh review and 483 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:52,559 approval. Um happy to go into further detail or answer questions if needed on 484 01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:56,799 this. Uh planning and zoning commission has recommended approval of the 485 01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:02,319 temporary moratorum. >> Any questions or comments up here? 486 01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:06,240 » Mr. Mayor, I I have a clarification. So I want to make a motion to wave the 487 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:12,640 third reading. Is that do I have to do that right now or after the roll call? 488 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:15,359 You can um he can do that now. >> Okay. 489 01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:21,240 » After. >> Okay. 490 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,240 » Okay. Anything from the crowd? 491 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:33,440 » Lane Perry, 20 East State Street. Hang on. 492 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,240 Okay. Uh thank you for moving this item to the start of the meeting. This helps 493 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,680 make sure the public can speak before any development talk happens. I support 494 01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:42,880 approving the second reading of the moratorium and waving the third reading 495 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,640 tonight. The reason is simple. We need the moratorium in place as soon as 496 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:50,079 possible. Right now, the moratorium is not active. Even after a vote, it does 497 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:53,920 not become real until it is printed in the newspaper. Waving the third reading 498 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:57,680 shortens that gap. It reduces the time where a developer could try to have 499 01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:01,119 something say start something and later say that they should be grandfathered 500 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:04,799 in. Passing the second reading and waving the third reading tonight gives 501 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:08,240 the city the strongest protection. It keeps the rules fair, prevents loopholes 502 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,599 and makes sure no development gets ahead of the process. I ask the council to 503 01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:14,799 approve the second reading and wave the third reading so the moratorium can move 504 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,760 forward without further delay. Thank you. 505 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:21,240 » Thank you. >> Anyone else? 506 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:30,720 » I mean I guess I just want to Oh yeah, sorry. Maggie Valentine 2345 Whispering 507 01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:35,920 Oaks Road. Um I guess I just want to reiterate that. Um, I think I'm assuming 508 01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:39,039 a lot of people want to just move forward with the moratorum. Um, I've 509 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,720 talked to [clears throat] quite a few people that have absolutely no clue that 510 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:47,760 it's not actually in effect until after the third reading. So, I would ask that 511 01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:51,960 you guys go ahead and pass the mortorium and wave the third reading, please. 512 01:07:55,359 --> 01:08:01,839 Aaron Carpenter, 802 North Fourth Street. Um, I know last time that the 513 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:09,039 waving the third reading did not pass. Um, but I would like to urge the council 514 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:14,079 to use the provision in Iowa code that allows for this 515 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:19,199 exact thing uh and and put it into use in the way 516 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:22,199 that it's intended to be used. Thank you. 517 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:33,759 Doris Kick, 2020, Catalina Place, Marshalltown, Iowa. I want the extension 518 01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:40,040 of 60 days. We need that. >> Second. 519 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,040 » Anyone else? 520 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:49,120 » 31405th Street. My name is Roberto Gonzalez. Uh, I think passing the 521 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,159 moratorum is showing the community that we take care that we care about the 522 01:08:50,719 --> 01:08:55,279 community. We care about the community input and what we're trying to do. and 523 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,120 also showing transparency to the community. I think that's really good to 524 01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:04,839 just pass that second reading and pass a moratorum too and wait the third. 525 01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:04,839 » Thank you. 526 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:16,719 » April long 911 May Street. I would ask that the council 527 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:23,839 uh vote for the second and waving the third. There's no rush for this thing to 528 01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:29,600 for a data center to be built. The people of Marshalltown need to become 529 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:37,839 more educated on the risk benefit and benefits of um a data center. 530 01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:44,400 So pass the resolution, wave the third reading, and give the community time to 531 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:49,600 find out fully what is in store for them. Personally, I don't want to see a 532 01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:55,520 data center in our community. I think it's a mistake. I [snorts] think 533 01:09:53,279 --> 01:10:02,400 people are being blinded by the possibility of quick bucks coming into 534 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:08,400 our community. The long-term effects are not going to be what we hope they are. 535 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:13,760 So, please vote no on any data centers and vote yes on a moratorum. And I would 536 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:19,679 also like to see the moratorum expanded even longer so that there's more time to 537 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:25,159 get accurate true information out there. Thank you. 538 01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:25,159 Okay, 539 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:39,520 » Sarah Neurroth, 20 East State Street. I honestly, this is the first time I've 540 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:44,400 ever come to city council meeting and this is the welcome. [laughter] 541 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:50,800 » Thank you. This is the main reason. I think that I personally don't see a lot 542 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:56,719 of the benefits, but I would like us to explore it. I would like the public to 543 01:10:53,360 --> 01:11:03,199 actually get to see both sides of it because I'm not infallible. you know, my 544 01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:08,480 what I understand from the research I've done, I do not think it would be a good 545 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:14,159 thing for our community, but I think we really need to 546 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:18,880 take that 4 months to figure it out and not rush into anything. 547 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:24,159 And honestly, Lane had a really good point cuz I 548 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:30,880 didn't realize until last week that the moratorum was not in effect. So I think 549 01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:37,840 a lot of the public think that it is already. So I would really like to see 550 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:42,000 you guys just you know approve the moratorum and wave the third reading. 551 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:48,440 Thank you. >> Thank you. 552 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,440 Do we have anybody else? 553 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,760 » Okay, 554 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,880 » Mr. Mayor. >> Why is Sorry about that standing back 555 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:05,360 there. a little behind the post. >> Uh, okay. So, Mark Eaton, 107 South 556 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:10,560 Avenue. Um, I I I'm in listening to the community, I'm going to get burned 557 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:17,840 either way, but here we go. Um, the moratorum is not in effect 558 01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:26,000 until this ordinance passes, but the clock on the moratorum 559 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:33,280 is counting from the 13th of July. How is that possible? What is the legal 560 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:39,159 ruling on this? How are you not getting yourself in hot water in either 561 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:39,159 direction? 562 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:49,560 » Um, Clayton, can you answer that? 563 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:04,400 uh Clayton, assistant director, housing community development. Again, uh I was 564 01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:10,320 the one that drafted this ordinance for your review. Uh it was my understanding 565 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:16,800 from your motion on July 13th that uh you all thought that was sufficient to 566 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:21,920 enact a moratorum and uh so I just based that uh date off of that four that four 567 01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:25,679 months off of there uh because the assumption at the time was that's when 568 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:32,320 it went into effect. Legally it hasn't. But I did put a date certain in there of 569 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:35,679 November 23rd, 2026. Uh that certainly can be that date could certainly be 570 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:39,120 modified at the discretion of the city council with an amendment to the 571 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:42,960 ordinance >> question. 572 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:48,159 » So Clayton for the planning and zoning the big question is is that time is it 573 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:52,480 you've been working on this since before any official passing of the moratorum. 574 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:55,520 So is this sufficient time the end of November for you to get the planning and 575 01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:00,800 zoning in place? >> I I absolutely believe it is. I 576 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:04,800 presented a schedule at earlier uh agendas. Um [clears throat] planning and 577 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,199 zoning commission has already been at work on this specific topic. They've 578 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:12,719 held two work sessions. Uh we have a community roundt event scheduled for 579 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:17,440 this Thursday. I'm going to do a little plug here for a moment. Uh Thursday 580 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:22,800 doors open 5:00 p.m. at the coliseum second floor. Event starts 5:30. Every 581 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:27,040 person's welcome and invited to attend. Um so planning commission has already 582 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,880 been at work on this. uh we put together a schedule that would have a third uh 583 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:36,960 have an ordinance in front of the council and uh ready for third and final 584 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:42,560 reading on your November 23rd date. So that's how we arrived at that date. Um 585 01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:48,640 but we put in that 60-day addition recognizing that life can happen. 586 01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:52,199 » Thank you. >> Any other questions? 587 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:08,800 Sherry Larson, Shady Oaks Road. I am in the eye of the storm of where the city 588 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:15,360 wants to expand and offer has been made price for my home already. So I Yes, I 589 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:20,000 want a moratorum to begin. I agree. I like the three readings, but I want the 590 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:22,400 moratorum more. >> Thank you. 591 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:25,640 » And an extension. Thank you. 592 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:39,840 » Annie Grecip 2125 290th Street Melbourne, Iowa. I have come to call 593 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:45,199 this moratorium Schroinger's moratorum. It's a lot like Schrodinger's cat. It's 594 01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:51,040 alive or it's dead. The mortorium has started. The mortorium 595 01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:57,120 has not started at this point. If you go with the November date, 596 01:15:53,600 --> 01:16:02,320 even if you wave the third reading now, by the time the ordinance is printed, it 597 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:08,000 will be a 10-week moratorum. So, either change the name 598 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:11,239 or live up to the name. Thank you. >> Thank you. 599 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,280 » Good evening, Mayor and Council. John Hall, Marshalltown Area Chamber of 600 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:27,040 Commerce, 34 West Main Street. Uh it's uh my recommendation as well to uh have 601 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:31,520 you all um not only pass the the moratorium tonight, but also wave the 602 01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:35,920 third reading. Uh if nothing else than uh preservation of people's time. you 603 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,040 know, we we are asking uh the same community members that are are showing 604 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:46,080 up here to show up for planning and zoning to uh provide their feedback into 605 01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:51,600 that process uh as the uh uh um [snorts] ordinances and and zoning code are uh 606 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:55,600 amended and and made changes. And uh I personally would rather see uh folks 607 01:16:53,520 --> 01:17:00,880 have the you know there there's a limited amount of time that that folks 608 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:05,600 have uh spend that time and energy uh at those efforts recognizing that uh I 609 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:10,880 think there's desire to move the moratorium forward and put it in place. 610 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:17,840 uh in addition uh and and maybe this is a bit a bit selfishly uh get past this 611 01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:23,280 point of uh a lot of the um concerns and conspiracies that uh that I continue to 612 01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:26,960 see particularly on social media. Um you know, we've got a project that will will 613 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:30,159 be in front of you all later tonight. As Clayton has described at the the last 614 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:35,040 city council meeting, there are certain actions that uh the moratorum uh will 615 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:41,520 will prohibit and certain actions that it would allow to continue. Uh and the 616 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:46,560 the major component of that being the due diligence necessary on on-site 617 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:50,960 development uh and planning uh uh recognizing that any project that would 618 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:56,640 come forward would have to meet uh the new zoning code, whatever that would be 619 01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:02,400 at the time of of uh it being adopted. But um yeah, it it would be my hope to 620 01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:06,880 see the uh second reading passed and the third reading waved to move this forward 621 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,920 expeditiously. Thank you. Thank you, John. 622 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,679 » Your honor, can I ask for a clarification? 623 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:18,239 » Yes. >> Um, I know one of our speakers mentioned 624 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:24,080 the Shady Oaks area. That is not in city um limits, is it? The area of Shady 625 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:28,000 Oaks. It is county property. >> Okay. I just wanted to clarify that that 626 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,840 the city is really not involved with that at this point. 627 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,920 » Correct. >> Thank you. 628 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:37,280 » The majority of that land is in unincorporated county. 629 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,280 » Thank you. 630 01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:45,760 Uh Zachary Hamilton, 2250 Shady Oaks Road. Um to that point, it is listed in 631 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:50,239 the reimagined Marshtown project for future industrial use via annexation. So 632 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:55,760 just something to consider. Um actually what I would like to do tonight is just 633 01:18:52,480 --> 01:19:00,640 encourage the city as a whole to be productive during the moratorum. Uh my 634 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,920 impression of the city council is the votes would currently be in favor of a 635 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,440 data center eventually being in Marshalltown. 636 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:10,800 And speaking as someone who could be affected by one next door, I think the 637 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:16,080 worst thing that could happen would be to bicker and argue and get through the 638 01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:20,159 whole moratorum and not have any progress made on our zoning ordinances. 639 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:24,640 That would be potentially worst case situation for individuals that would be 640 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,440 living next to one. And so I would encourage the community as a whole to be 641 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:33,600 proactive and involved in these conversations as a moratorum goes into 642 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:37,440 effect. Be involved Thursday night. help make some progress on this so that when 643 01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:42,480 all is said and done, individuals like myself, uh, those on the north edge of 644 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:47,440 town can be more comfortable potentially with what the outcome of the situation 645 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:51,199 might be as the ordinances are updated, hopefully in our favor to some degree. 646 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:56,199 And so that is my that's my encouragement tonight. Thank you. 647 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,199 » Thank you, 648 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:05,440 » Lee B, Marshalltown, Iowa. Um, I want to echo what he just said. Um when Thursday 649 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:10,719 arrives, we need to be informed as citizens and come informed. So with um I 650 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:15,360 did make a phone call to Annie to see if I could print something off. Um we do 651 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:19,920 have a data center planning a Hubble informed roundt handout. It's a 652 01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:25,440 one-pager with some information on here. If you want to see us after the meeting, 653 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:31,040 please do. It gives us a a basis for educated comments looking at is this the 654 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,840 right thing for Marshall 10? Is it not the right thing for Marshall Town? I'm 655 01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:40,080 not going to say one way or the other, but I'm saying let's gain the education. 656 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:44,400 Let's gain the knowledge so we make wise decisions for our future. You guys have 657 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:50,000 heard me say this is a legacy decision we're making. And I'll use um Aaron, 658 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:55,280 I'll do the tree thing tonight. Um when we plant the tree, we plant it for the 659 01:20:52,640 --> 01:21:00,880 generations, the future generations. I may not sit under that tree and get the 660 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:04,560 shade. I may not pick the fruit, but I want my children I want my grandchildren 661 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:10,320 and great-grandchildren to do that. That's what this is going to be for our 662 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:15,840 community. So, let's be wise. Let's come ready to go. And I guess I have one 663 01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:20,080 question for Clayton. Um I'm not sure. I've been to all the PNC meetings. Are 664 01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:25,000 we having another round table or just one round table? Thank [snorts] you. 665 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:33,280 The schedule as I presented it to the council and commission included the 666 01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:38,080 single community roundt. Uh then we would have uh first draft of ordinances 667 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:42,159 on September 17th and then at the start of October we would like to do a a 668 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:45,920 public open house. Uh that'll be more of a informal come and go rather than 669 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,960 everyone stick around for the entire time. You're welcome to stick around the 670 01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:54,719 whole time if you want uh but you wouldn't need to. So I do intend to host 671 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:58,159 at least two public open house events. One being the round table, one being 672 01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:05,800 more traditional open house. >> Okay. Thank you, Clayton. 673 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,800 Anyone else? 674 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,320 » Thank you. 675 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:20,560 » Yeah, my name is Jimmy Lant. I live down at 610 North 4th Avenue. 676 01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:27,280 uh this meeting you're going to have July 27th, August 27th at the coliseum. 677 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:32,880 Is that going to explain this whole thing all about it? All the pluses about 678 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:39,120 it, all the negative things about it, or what's it going to do? Are we just going 679 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:47,040 to argue on it? Well, my my concern is these things get pretty loud and you 680 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:52,239 don't have to live next to it. I do. And I got brother-in-laws that live next 681 01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:57,679 to wind turbles and they get they get kickbacks from the wind turbal people on 682 01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:03,360 the loudness of the m of the of the noise through moneywise. Am I going to 683 01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:08,639 get any kickback through this or the city going to get it? 684 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,880 I just want to know the positive stuff, the negative stuff. And I think I'm 685 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:17,840 entitled to that as a citizen in Larstown. 686 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:22,239 I've been here 78 years. I'm sick of how things are being run here. I've been 687 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:27,040 trying to get help from this guy, all these people up here. And they're all 688 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:32,800 putting their heads down right now, some of them. But you know what? Stuff's 689 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:37,440 never got done. But I pay my taxes once a year in September for a whole year. 690 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:43,520 But starting this September, it's going to be six months at a time because I'm 691 01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:49,360 tired of this. I'm tired of this. you. I'd like to take all you guys for a ride 692 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:54,800 around this town and rent a bus and me be the talker on the bus and I'd hire 693 01:23:52,000 --> 01:24:00,960 the driver and show you what a all the negative stuff is in this town. But you 694 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:05,360 guys will not take me up on it cuz I I offered that once before. One thing I'll 695 01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:09,679 say about Mayor Thompson and Bobby Schubert, they come down to Maya area 696 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:15,520 and they walked that whole alley all the way down to the park and they took care 697 01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:20,239 of things, but then the things got back just like they are today. 698 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:26,960 And I know and Mike knows what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a 699 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:30,719 dumpster that been down there since 2020 and it hasn't been emptied. There been a 700 01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:34,960 fire in it. The fire department had to come down and put the fire out. Now it's 701 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:40,000 full garbage skin. I'm just sick of how things are run and people on this data 702 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:44,719 center. I want to know the pluses and the negatives about it. Is that going to 703 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:50,239 be taken care of in this meeting, Mike? Um 704 01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:55,040 I there's no data center. We're going to have a presentation tonight on a data 705 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,040 center. So you'll learn a lot of the positives probably. 706 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:05,360 » Yeah. >> On it. Um, and what the meeting at the 707 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:09,679 coliseum is for is to say, okay, if we're going to have something in this 708 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:14,320 community, it has to have these certain, we have to set the bar high so that if 709 01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:20,000 you're coming in, because there is no doubt in my mind, the data centers went 710 01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:26,560 into communities that didn't care. And so the data centers, they just they did 711 01:25:23,679 --> 01:25:30,960 bad stuff. And it's because the city didn't hold them to high standards as 712 01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:36,159 far as even beginning because if you can't clear our bar, we don't want you 713 01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:40,719 here and we won't be a you won't be able to come here. 714 01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:43,679 » And that's what a lot of the the roundt discussions are is what's really 715 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:49,520 important here. >> This is such a big topic that to free up 716 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:53,840 all you guys, why don't you have a public election on this if you want it 717 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:58,800 or not? Let the people that pay the taxes make the determination. I know the 718 01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:04,320 people that pay the taxes elected you in, but let the people out there. You 719 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:10,320 guys can give it up for one time. It's a big deal. Back when I was a kid, this 720 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:14,719 tall, I remember uh John Deere wanting to come into this town. Want to come 721 01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:22,000 into this town and they got shot down from a deal like this. It got shot down 722 01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:25,679 cuz you know what it's money talks and the other stuff walks. 723 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:28,159 » Okay. Thank you, Jimmy. You're out of time. 724 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,480 » Well, you know what I'm saying. >> I know what you're saying. 725 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:33,920 » Why Why can't you let the people of Martown vote on it? 726 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:38,840 » Because >> because you live in a representative 727 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,840 government. 728 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:47,040 » So, and that's why you elected these people to represent you is why. 729 01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:50,560 » Well, they know what I want. I'll be there at that meeting. 730 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:53,600 » Yeah. >> Okay. Uh 731 01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:56,960 » I think there's another. >> Is there anyone else? 732 01:26:54,560 --> 01:27:02,040 » Yeah. >> Let's have a roll call, please. 733 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,040 » Oh, 734 01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:11,520 » my name is Renee Nodland. I live at 305 North Fourth Street. Um I have my 735 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:15,360 reasons. I oppose the data center. Um I don't know a lot about it. I myself 736 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:22,719 would like to be a little more educated but for reasons of pollution um produces 737 01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:26,800 heat um for several reasons um I am against the data centers. 738 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:30,440 That's all I have to say. >> Thank you. 739 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,440 » Thank you. 740 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:41,360 » Anyone that wants to come up and speak, we're talking about the moratorum only. 741 01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:44,960 So other side issues do not apply right now. I just had like a quick question 742 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:48,080 about something that was said. Uh you said something about a presentation 743 01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:52,400 tonight. Is that something >> open to the public or 744 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:55,040 » when and where is that? >> It's part of the agenda. 745 01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:58,840 » Okay. I'm sorry. >> All right. Thank you. Sorry. 746 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:03,239 » Anyone else? 747 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:10,880 » Roll call, please. >> Kahill. 748 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,880 » Yes. Consea Mitchell, 749 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080 » yes. >> Nicholls, 750 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,080 » yes. >> Schneider, 751 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,760 » no. >> Thompson, 752 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,199 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 753 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,719 » yes. >> Okay. Motion passed. 754 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,920 » And then I would like to make a motion to wave the third reading. 755 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,800 » Second. >> Okay. [snorts] I have a motion and a 756 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:38,840 second to wave the sec the third reading. Questions or comments? 757 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:38,840 Roll call, please. Mitchell. 758 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:51,400 Oh, sorry. I need to make her absent. I'm sorry. 759 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:51,400 » She She is no longer able to vote. 760 01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:59,920 » Does that change the numbers required? I >> think so. 761 01:28:56,719 --> 01:29:03,120 » So, point of order. So, 75% of who's present to pass it. 762 01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:06,800 » Yes. >> No, the whole council. 763 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:10,600 of the whole. >> Well, she's not here. 764 01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:18,440 » Okay. 765 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:26,440 » Can we get a clarification on that? >> He's got it right here. 766 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,600 It takes six. 767 01:29:42,719 --> 01:29:48,280 » Everyone clear on that? >> Yes. 768 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:54,400 » Clarify. Was that for the previous vote or for the upcoming? 769 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:58,360 » The wave. The third reading. >> The wave. Okay. Thank you. 770 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:04,239 Roll call, please. >> Mitchell, 771 01:30:03,679 --> 01:30:05,440 » yes. >> Nicholls, 772 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,560 » yes. >> Schneider, 773 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,560 » yes. >> Thompson, 774 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,840 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 775 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,840 » yes. >> Cahill, 776 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:17,520 » yes. >> Okay, we waved the third reading. 777 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:23,199 Now, we're just going to keep moving down the ordinances. Correct. Okay. 778 01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:26,800 Ordinance number two. Ordinance 15124 amending the code of ordinances of the 779 01:30:24,719 --> 01:30:30,880 city of Marshalltown, Iowa by repealing section 73.050 780 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,920 weapons. Second reading. >> So move. 781 01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:40,600 » Second. >> Have a motion and a second. 782 01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:40,600 » There any questions or comments on this? 783 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,639 » Roll call, please. >> Schneider, 784 01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,600 » yes. >> Thompson, 785 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,960 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 786 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,040 » yes. >> Cahill, 787 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:53,120 » no. >> Mitchell, 788 01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:57,199 » yes. Nicholls. >> Yes. 789 01:30:54,639 --> 01:31:01,840 » Okay. Your honor, I make a motion to wave the third reading. 790 01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:03,280 » Second >> comment. 791 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:08,239 » Yes. >> So, 792 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:13,120 this is just to comply with Iowa law. So, this is just following the police 793 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:17,000 have offered this to basically get in compliance with state code. 794 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:30,000 Uh Chris Jones, chief of police. Uh yes, this would put us in line with the the 795 01:31:26,639 --> 01:31:34,159 state code. Um there would be some um legal concerns with having an ordinance 796 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:41,320 that would be in contrary to the state code with in relation to we possession 797 01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:41,320 of weapons on snowmobiles and ATVs. 798 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:47,679 » Thank you, >> your honor. 799 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:51,679 » Yes. And I I just want to state that my no vote on that is just because I don't 800 01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:55,840 think we should have weapons on there and I I don't think the state should 801 01:31:53,440 --> 01:32:00,560 have approved it. So I it's not that I don't want our police department to 802 01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:05,679 comply with the state. I I disagree with the law to begin with. Thank you. 803 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:10,800 » Thank [snorts] you. >> Any other questions or comments? 804 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:16,178 » So Chris, that means pull over Sue when you see her on a snowmobile. 805 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,178 Any [laughter] 806 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,763 any public comment? [clears throat] 807 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,520 » Roll call, please. >> Gomez, 808 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:27,120 » yes. >> Cahill, 809 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:31,040 » this is to wave the third reading. >> Thank you. Um, yes. 810 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,320 » Mitchell, >> yes. 811 01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:33,360 » Nicholls, >> yes. 812 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,400 » Schneider, >> yes. 813 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:38,080 » Thompson, >> yes. 814 01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:41,440 » Okay, moving on to ordinance number three. 815 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:46,000 » Ordinance 15125 amending the code of ordinance of the city of Marshtown, Iowa 816 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:50,080 70.0. 009 vehicle condition equipment and load by adjusting the percentage of 817 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,719 window tint allowed. Second reading. >> Move to approve. 818 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:56,239 » Second. >> Okay. 819 01:32:52,960 --> 01:33:00,960 » I have a motion in a second. >> Any questions or comments up here? 820 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:05,920 » Comment. Uh, Officer Jones, this is the same type of thing where we have to 821 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:09,600 comply with state law. Correct. >> Officer Jones. 822 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:13,360 » Sir, >> sir. Sir, 823 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:17,679 somebody else is getting pulled over now. 824 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:24,719 » Uh, yes. July 1st, the state had changed the the tint regulation to be a little 825 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:29,440 bit um to allow more people to have more or darker tint on their windows. 826 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:32,679 It's just consistent with the state law. >> Thank you. 827 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:42,120 » Any other questions or comments up here? Anything from the public? 828 01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,719 » Roll call, please. >> Mitchell, 829 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:45,760 » yes. >> Nicholls, 830 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:46,719 » yes. >> Schneider, 831 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:47,600 » yes. >> Thompson, 832 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,800 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 833 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:51,120 » yes. >> Cahill, 834 01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:55,920 » yes. >> I move that we wave the third reading. 835 01:33:53,120 --> 01:34:01,840 » Second. >> Okay. Any questions or comments up here? 836 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,120 Roll call, please. >> Nicholls, 837 01:34:02,719 --> 01:34:04,000 » yes. >> Schneider, 838 01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:04,880 » yes. >> Thompson, 839 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,159 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 840 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,920 » yes. >> Cahill, 841 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:13,040 » yes. Mitchell. >> Yes. 842 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:17,280 » Okay. Number four, >> ordinance 15126, amending the code of 843 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:20,719 ordinances of city Marshalltown, Iowa 130.018 844 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:23,199 fireworks to add the permitted time frames for usage. Second reading. 845 01:34:22,239 --> 01:34:27,600 » Move to approve. >> Second. 846 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:34,719 » Have a motion and a second. Any questions or comments? 847 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:37,360 Anything from the crowd? Roll call, please. Thompson, 848 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,639 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 849 01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:39,679 » yes. >> Cahill, 850 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,639 » yes. >> Mitchell, 851 01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:41,520 » yes. >> Nicholls, 852 01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:43,600 » yes. >> Schneider, 853 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:49,199 » yes. >> Your honor, when Alicia is ready, 854 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:52,480 » I'll go slower this time. >> I move that we wave the third reading. 855 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:56,480 » Second. >> Okay, I've got a motion and a second to 856 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,480 wave the third reading. Any questions or comments? 857 01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:05,440 Anything from the public? >> Roll call, please. 858 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,719 » Kahill. Yes. >> Mitchell. 859 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:07,679 » Yes. >> Nicholls. 860 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:08,560 » Yes. >> Schneider. 861 01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:09,840 » Yes. >> Thompson. 862 01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:12,320 » Yes. >> Yep. Gomez. 863 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:17,920 » Yes. >> Okay. Ordinance number five, please. 864 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:24,159 » Ordinance 15127 to amend the official zoning map for 707 East Lind Street and 865 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:28,159 205 South 8th Avenue. First reading. >> Move to approve. 866 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,679 » Second. >> Okay. I have a motion and a second. 867 01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:35,280 Clayton, enlighten us. Clayton Ender, assistant 868 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:39,840 director, housing Canadian development. Uh, this is a resoning application from 869 01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:43,760 Marshalltown Company. Uh, they are seeking to reszone the the two noted 870 01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:48,000 parcels for the purpose of constructing off- streetet parking facilities, a 871 01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:52,400 parking lot um to support their facility expansions on the east side of South 8th 872 01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:55,840 Avenue. Uh, the council's previously seen several other resonings over the 873 01:35:54,080 --> 01:36:00,239 past but year, year and a half associated with this. This just a 874 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:04,159 continuation of their project. Um the property is shown on the current adopted 875 01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:08,800 comprehensive plan as low density residential. However, the draft plan 876 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:14,639 which is up for discussion later on the agenda does identify it as industrial. 877 01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:18,880 So should the revised comprehensive plan be be adopted, it would be consistent 878 01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:24,320 with our long-term plan for growth in the area. Um I uh the ordinance does 879 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:30,719 include conditions on restricting certain uses from the parcels. Uh those 880 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:35,440 are the heavier industrial type uses um because we wanted to separate those 881 01:36:32,719 --> 01:36:39,600 further from residential uses. Uh the owner has uh agreed to those conditions 882 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:43,600 in writing already. Um and that's consistent with your past approvals as 883 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:47,520 well. Uh planning and zoning commission has reviewed this and has recommended 884 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:51,920 approval. Happy to go into further detail or answer questions if needed. 885 01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:55,440 » We have any questions up here? >> Your honor, I have a question for 886 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:59,040 Clayton. Clayton, is the um construction of the parking lot at the cost of the 887 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:03,920 business? >> Yes, there's uh no public money. Okay. 888 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:08,639 » Or at least no city money, I should say. >> Okay. And I know that in the past they 889 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:14,080 have had I think on the west side of the building some um drainage problems. So, 890 01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:16,560 I assume they'll take care of that too so it doesn't happen on the east side of 891 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,440 the building. >> Yeah, that would that's certainly being 892 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,639 addressed already. They're doing uh roadway improvements and drainage 893 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:28,800 improvements on on the site. >> Very good. Thank you. 894 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:34,840 » Any other questions? >> Thank you, Clayton. Any questions or 895 01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:34,840 comments from the public? 896 01:37:35,767 --> 01:37:40,080 [clears throat] >> Seeing none, roll call, please. 897 01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,440 » Thompson, >> yes. 898 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:42,480 » Yep. Gomez, >> yes. 899 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,920 » Cahill, >> yes. Mitchell, 900 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,199 » yes. >> Nicholls, 901 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,280 » yes. >> Schneider, 902 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:52,960 » yes. >> Okay, that passed. And now we're going 903 01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:56,719 to ordinance number six. >> Ordinance 15128 amending the code of 904 01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:00,560 ordinances of the city of Marshtown, Iowa by repealing and replacing section 905 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:05,600 50.027B collection vehicles. First reading. 906 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:09,600 » Move for approval. >> Second. 907 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:14,320 » I have a motion and a second. >> Uh yes, your honor. So, this amendment 908 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:18,800 would allow licensed garbage and refuge haulers to use pickup trucks or other 909 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:24,800 non-compacting vehicles for scheduled routine collection while requiring that 910 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:28,639 each lency um use at least one packer truck um and comply with the city's 911 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:32,119 existing vehicle sanitation and containment requirements. 912 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:38,199 » Any questions or comments up here, 913 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:46,960 » your honor? Yes, >> I feel that this is a we've talked a lot 914 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:53,520 about garbage in the last couple of years, but I do feel that this is a way 915 01:38:49,679 --> 01:38:58,880 to um even the plane for our garbage collection folks. It's something that 916 01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:07,119 has been done for years and I don't see any reason to prohibit it now. So, I am 917 01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:14,440 in favor of this ordinance. Thank you. >> Anyone else up here? Anything 918 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,440 from the public? 919 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,320 » Roll call, please. >> Schneider, 920 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,840 » no. >> Thompson, 921 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,199 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 922 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,280 » yes. >> Cahill, 923 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,400 » yes. Mitchell, >> yes. 924 01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:30,880 » Nicholls, >> yes. 925 01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:36,880 » Okay, that completes I ordinances. Let's move to J discussing and the first one 926 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:42,239 is finance department review of capital improvement plan and fiscal year budget 927 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:46,480 process changes. >> Thank you Mr. Mayor. Uh council members 928 01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:51,159 uh Cole O'Donnell finance director. I got to get my presentation loaded up 929 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:51,159 here. 930 01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:55,800 Find the There we go. 931 01:39:59,214 --> 01:40:06,800 [cough] Here we go. 932 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:11,440 » So, again, thank you. Tonight, uh what I wanted to be able to do is is walk you 933 01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:15,920 through some of the um proposed changes uh that we have for both the capital uh 934 01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:20,000 improvement plan process and the budget process. Uh what I want to do is be able 935 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:26,000 to present it to you before we get into the um uh processes so that you have any 936 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:32,719 questions or uh concerns, we can uh take care of those ahead of time. Uh so um 937 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:38,000 what we did is is we started a review uh we went through a lean process uh which 938 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:42,639 identified some needed changes. Uh what we found was that data entry was too 939 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:49,360 cumbersome. Uh that we also found some other issues with the CIP as far as um 940 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:56,400 how it's set up. Uh so we needed to do some changes in format and uh data entry 941 01:40:52,480 --> 01:41:01,600 uh that um are needed. Um we found that uh uh our uh project budgeting was a 942 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:06,960 little too confusing and the way that we were budgeting with um debt service and 943 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:11,440 um donations and grants and other things. So we wanted to simplify that uh 944 01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:16,960 so that we could have allocate the resources and expenses for projects and 945 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:22,159 be able to um better have um team members be able to um enter in and track 946 01:41:20,719 --> 01:41:27,840 uh those expenditures and those revenues. And then um because of some of 947 01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:33,840 the changes that uh we're looking at um we have a revised budget calendar um for 948 01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:38,639 you to look at tonight as well. So again we started with a lean process. 949 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:43,280 Uh this involved the finance uh department public works uh park and 950 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:48,159 wreck and administration. It was led by human resources in response to concerns 951 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:54,159 from departments regarding a burdome entry of data. uh when um our CIP 952 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:59,920 software planet moved from access database uh which is a Microsoft Excel 953 01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:05,360 database um platform to a web-based platform. Uh Tyler budgeting codes were 954 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:09,040 added to the Marshalltown Planet portal. Uh I believe the plan was to have Planet 955 01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:14,320 to import information directly from Tyler and then Tyler speaking to to 956 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:18,639 Planet as well. um this did not occur and did not occur and as such 957 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:24,080 departments were being asked to enter budget numbers twice. So once we entered 958 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:28,480 it into um Tyler they were um and the project was approved they then had to 959 01:42:26,159 --> 01:42:32,400 re-enter it into planet um with multiple departments and 960 01:42:30,239 --> 01:42:36,560 multiple projects team members became overwhelmed. Uh the lean process 961 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:40,480 identified all the steps in the current process and looked at ways to improve 962 01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:45,280 communication between team members and finance and to modify steps so that some 963 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:52,480 were eliminated or modified in such a way that it became easier for for um uh 964 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:56,719 staff to um enter in their numbers. Uh one condition 965 01:42:54,480 --> 01:43:01,679 adding pressure to team members is the development and approval of the CIP in 966 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:05,600 this um same time as the annual budget. So, as you're going through the the 967 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:11,119 annual budget, you're they're also completing the the CIP. Um, 968 01:43:09,821 --> 01:43:16,239 [clears throat] finance has moved the CIP development and approval to the fall 969 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:20,320 before the annual process begins. Um, there's some advantages to that um that 970 01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:24,719 I'll get into um later in the presentation. As part of the CIP 971 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:29,199 development, finance team members will take a larger uh role in that 972 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:33,280 development. Revenues will be entered by finance unless departments have specific 973 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:37,679 revenue sources already identified such as grants. Projects will be re be 974 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:42,719 reviewed by finance and changes suggested as needed uh based upon 975 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:48,400 available resources and funding uh to keep their balances uh in the positive. 976 01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:52,800 Um team members uh had concerns about Planet software and questions its value. 977 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:58,800 Uh what we found was the software was not the problem but the utilization of 978 01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:58,800 the software was the problem. 979 01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:07,520 So what you had with planet was a lot of CI a lot of capital improvements 980 01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:11,679 uh and that planet was being used to track projects uh more than to plan 981 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:15,600 projects. So in reviewing the current CIP appeared that there was a list of 982 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:20,159 projects but not really a plan as to how those projects would be funded in the uh 983 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:26,639 other than the current fiscal year. the extra data from uh Tyler to Planet was 984 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:32,239 being used more as a uh way to track the project's expenses again rather than to 985 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:36,880 plan for the expenses. Planet does allow for additional information to be entered 986 01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:41,520 into the accounts for fund balances. You can put in all the uh revenues and all 987 01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:45,119 non-c capital expenditures. A beginning balance is entered for the first fiscal 988 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:49,440 year of the plan. Revenues and operational expenses expenses are 989 01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:55,440 projected for five years based upon the current fiscal year, historical trends, 990 01:44:51,920 --> 01:45:00,239 economic conditions and some other um uh economic factors. As projects are 991 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:04,960 entered uh the balances uh in future years change, we can then predict 992 01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:09,920 predict where for shortfalls will occur. Um with this information projects can be 993 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:15,199 moved to other years, modified in scope and or additional revenue resources 994 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:21,040 identified. Um and the CIA becomes now has a plan. So as an example, 995 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:25,360 where are we here? There we go. 996 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:35,760 It's hard trying to find the cursor here. There we go. So, as an example, 997 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:42,400 um what I have here is the um uh sources and use and fund detail for um uh 998 01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:49,760 modified road use tax. And again, I've entered the beginning balance for um uh 999 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:54,719 fiscal year 27, but then I put in uh the projected revenues for road use tax for 1000 01:45:52,080 --> 01:46:00,000 those five years. So, one of the ways I looked at it was the state always 1001 01:45:56,159 --> 01:46:06,320 predicts an extra one uh $1 per capita per year. Um, what I found over the 1002 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:11,360 years is that $1 is very very conservative. So, in this case, I put it 1003 01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:15,360 at a$150. Um, it might change to where maybe I need it at a dollar and a 1004 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:22,480 quarter instead of a a$150, but I put it at a$150 per capita. Not a lot. Um but 1005 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:28,080 what else is also received into um uh the road use tax fund is uh we 1006 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:34,800 have sale of fixed assets. So at times where we have um uh materials or um 1007 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:40,639 equipment that has served its lif uh useful lifespan um we get rid of it. So 1008 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:46,239 we have um that uh there as well. And then we have a state um road maintenance 1009 01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:52,000 contract. So, um certain state roads that run through the city limits, we 1010 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:58,000 have a contract where the DOT pays us um to do general maintenance, which 1011 01:46:53,920 --> 01:47:03,840 basically is um you know uh snow removal and cleaning. Uh but we have other 1012 01:47:01,679 --> 01:47:09,760 sources that might be transferred in. So we uh transfer some in to from uh uh uh 1013 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:15,119 our employee benefits fund to take care of the little bit of salaries that are 1014 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:19,040 within the road use tax. Then further down you see we start in with all the 1015 01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:24,719 different projects going through the different years. 1016 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:29,520 And when we get down to the end we have other uses. So we do pay out some 1017 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:35,360 employee benefits. We pay out some salaries. We pay out um different 1018 01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:39,119 operating expenditures and then um transfers out for salaries to the 1019 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:43,760 general fund and transfers to the insurance reserves. Now you have all the 1020 01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:47,840 expenditures and all the revenues and including the projects included in the 1021 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:53,440 sheet. And you see that you have an ending balance and that ending balance 1022 01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:58,719 carries through to the next year. So on and so forth all the way down. And 1023 01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:03,360 what you see is that um we start having a declining balance in the road use tax 1024 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:08,000 fund. Um so at some point what we have to do is we have to look at and we have 1025 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:10,960 to say okay um what are we going to do to make some changes to maintain a 1026 01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:14,239 certain balance? We're going to have to change some different uh different 1027 01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,440 things in operations or we going to have to same change some things with capital 1028 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:23,920 improvements. But again we start planning so that we always maintain a 1029 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:28,320 certain level of a um balance in that fund. We'll be doing that with all the 1030 01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:31,360 other different um funds that are included in the funding sources that are 1031 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:38,159 included in the capital improvement plan. So that there 1032 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:42,480 is the changes for um this the capital improvement plan so that we actually 1033 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:47,040 have a lot more of the plan and not just CI. 1034 01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:50,880 Okay. [clears throat] So project budgeting 1035 01:48:48,719 --> 01:48:56,400 um the practice has been to fund uh projects uh uh for revenue sources. So 1036 01:48:53,920 --> 01:49:00,960 you have a home fund usually debt issues and then specific grants. When bonds are 1037 01:48:58,719 --> 01:49:05,679 issued the practice has been to create a fund for the proceeds. In some cases 1038 01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:10,480 large grants awards are also given their own fund. This is what we call the home 1039 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:14,639 fund. Other revenues uh could be allocated to the home fund such as 1040 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:17,920 grants, donations or capital funds. If balances in another fund became 1041 01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:22,159 available, projects were shifted from the original home fund to a new home 1042 01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:27,760 fund. This has led to some confusion and difficulty in tracking project balances. 1043 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:32,480 Finances will be creating uh general project funds. Street projects will be 1044 01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:39,199 grouped into one fund as will bridges, sidewalks, parks, recreation, uh 1045 01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:44,960 facilities, capital equipment. Uh so what it is is for example the street um 1046 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:49,440 projects will begin uh fund 301 when we create it. Um bridges would might be in 1047 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:54,560 302. sidewalks and other things might be in fund 303. 1048 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:58,480 Um, if the project is be uh all allocated revenues will be deposited 1049 01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:03,679 within the funds and will remain in that funds until completed. If the project is 1050 01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:08,000 to be funded with 1 million uh in bond proceeds, for example, and $500,000 in 1051 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:12,159 grants, those amounts will be budgeted and received into the fund. Project 1052 01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:17,920 numbers will be used to provide separate accounting of project revenues and 1053 01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:23,520 expenses so that um we can uh again keep track of those a in a different way 1054 01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:28,880 which leads to the next slide which is our better tracking uh um uh example. We 1055 01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:33,280 want to be sure that we have accurate accounting of projects especially uh if 1056 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:37,520 the project is funded with debts and grants. Finances 1057 01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:41,600 finance has created a workbook that will allow for an easy data entry of revenues 1058 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:46,080 and expenditures. Working with the reports and tylers, the team was able to 1059 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:51,119 design budget reports uh that subtotal by revenue source and expenditure 1060 01:50:47,679 --> 01:50:56,960 categories. So um revenue sources of course you have um uh use of money and 1061 01:50:55,440 --> 01:51:02,800 property. So it's interest or something like that, property taxes or tax other 1062 01:50:59,119 --> 01:51:08,400 city taxes. you have um grants and aid and um so on. Um so we can subtotal by 1063 01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:13,520 those things within those funds and be able to um enter them within the um uh 1064 01:51:11,679 --> 01:51:19,199 the spreadsheet. You'll see in a minute. And on the expenditure side, you have um 1065 01:51:17,119 --> 01:51:25,199 uh your wages and salaries, your employee benefits, um your commodities, 1066 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:29,520 your um contractual services. Um the summary page of the workbook will 1067 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:33,679 provide uh budget to actual figures as the project progresses and expenses can 1068 01:51:31,679 --> 01:51:38,159 be tracked against the allocated revenues to ensure compliance with debt 1069 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:44,800 and grant reporting. So again um I provided uh this as a uh example within 1070 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:50,239 your workbook but this is the start page and here you can anything in the gray 1071 01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:54,800 can be entered uh as far as the project title the fund the project number fiscal 1072 01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:59,760 year started and the current fiscal year in which the project is being tracked. 1073 01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:04,639 So, if you have a project that starts in fiscal year 28 but is going to be 1074 01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:10,960 completed in fiscal year 29, um you would put in the budget for fiscal year 1075 01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:16,000 28. Uh and um uh and then when it comes to fiscal year 29, you put the 1076 01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:21,840 information in for fiscal year 29. Um the green areas can be is where we enter 1077 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:26,719 the budget. But then when you go to a certain month 1078 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:30,000 then here is where um the project title, fund and project number are carried 1079 01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:37,199 forward from the summary. So is the fiscal year and current fiscal year but 1080 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:44,560 here is where um uh the departments uh and finance can enter um uh the 1081 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:48,800 revenues received in the month of July and the expenditures expended in the 1082 01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:53,360 month of July. And again, those then would then carry back to the year to 1083 01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:58,400 date and then give you a balance based upon what is budgeted versus um what has 1084 01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:04,880 been expended or received. So, we're able to track those projects um working 1085 01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:09,679 with um those uh team members that have the most projects. Um they've looked at 1086 01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:15,040 this and they think this is a fairly good idea. So, 1087 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:22,639 and we'll close out. Um so the next sheet is becomes the 1088 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:29,840 budget calendar. So uh the CIP is is completed in the in the fall as I as I 1089 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:35,199 said before. uh by completing uh uh my experience has always been to complete 1090 01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:40,000 the CIP before the annual budget as a an advantage is completing the CIP is that 1091 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:43,920 the is that team members know what projects are are approved and again 1092 01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:47,360 enter those allocations into Tyler appropriately rather than trying to 1093 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,080 figure out what's going to be approved during the budget process and then 1094 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:56,000 entering in Tyler then putting it back into Planet. We will have Planet. It'll 1095 01:53:52,960 --> 01:54:01,119 be approved uh uh separately through a public hearing and a resolution with the 1096 01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:06,560 city council. Then um the departments can then put their uh those capital 1097 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:10,000 projects into the operating budget knowing that where the revenues are 1098 01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:19,119 coming from, where the expenditures are going to. Um, again, it does require a 1099 01:54:13,679 --> 01:54:24,000 separate um uh uh public hearing and a uh separate approval uh versus having it 1100 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:31,760 all done at once. Um, I think it's worthwhile um in that you get to have 1101 01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:36,880 that review um separately. Uh so I did again put in the budget calendar for 1102 01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:42,480 you. Um hopefully you've had a chance to take a look at it. I have highlighted 1103 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:48,480 certain things uh within that. Um you know a yellow is going to be a council 1104 01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:53,760 work session. Um a um green highlighted is a public hearing notice and 1105 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:57,360 publication requirement. Um so if you have any input on that um I'll gladly 1106 01:54:56,239 --> 01:55:02,719 take it here at the end of the presentation. Um hopefully again you've 1107 01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:06,880 all had a chance to take a look at it. So what are u some of the takeaways? 1108 01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:10,400 Well, we have a better process for team members. Um, 1109 01:55:09,674 --> 01:55:14,239 [clears throat] we can budget our capital and operations 1110 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:18,080 without duplication of entry. So, it becomes easier for them. Uh, we're able 1111 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:23,040 to track projects through dedicated funds and, uh, the workbook. Uh, it 1112 01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:26,880 becomes a plan. Uh, so it's better planning for capital improvements. It's 1113 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:30,560 a plan rather than a list. Shortfalls can be predicted and avoided while still 1114 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:36,320 meeting capital needs and operational needs. And by separating the um CIP from 1115 01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:41,920 the annual budget, transparency is increased. The new funds and projects uh 1116 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:45,840 project tech provide information that is easier to disseminate and to understand. 1117 01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:53,199 And so with that, I'll take any questions and comments um constructive 1118 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:57,920 um uh criticism that the council has for me. 1119 01:55:55,679 --> 01:56:03,119 I do like all of this, especially the transparency because after doing I think 1120 01:56:00,719 --> 01:56:12,159 I've been through 12 budgets, it can get confusing and a more streamlined uh open 1121 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:16,560 system of doing it helps a lot, especially on this side of the table. 1122 01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:22,480 » Yeah. And and that's that's another goal is not only so that team members have 1123 01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:26,000 the ability to um uh have more accurate and better information to you. It's to 1124 01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:29,760 have that information so that you can discuss it. You can give feedback to 1125 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:34,480 team members. The public has an opportunity to take a look at and 1126 01:56:31,119 --> 01:56:41,040 provide feedback as well. >> Anyone have any questions? 1127 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:44,880 » Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. 1128 01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:47,880 Anyone have any comments from the public? 1129 01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:58,880 » Okay, moving on to the next discussion item. Number two is discussion regarding 1130 01:56:55,440 --> 01:57:04,360 potential annexation of 2342 Odessa Drive. 1131 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,360 Clayton 1132 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:09,360 » Clayton Ender, assistant director housing, community development. Uh 1133 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:14,480 Douglas and Michelle Beals purchased 2342 Odessa Drive uh in July of this 1134 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:18,560 year. Uh this is a property currently located outside city limits but abuing 1135 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:23,520 our city limits. They are currently serviced by Marshalltown Waterworks. Uh 1136 01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:28,400 they have been advised by Marshalltown Waterworks for them to continue uh 1137 01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:32,080 receiving service from the that utility. they would either need to annex into the 1138 01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:37,679 city or have city council refuse annexation of their property for so they 1139 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:41,440 can continue uh receiving water. Uh earlier this year uh you did consider a 1140 01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:46,719 request of a larger property along Odessa at the south end. Uh at that time 1141 01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:52,159 you did refuse annexation. Based on that past action a few months ago, staff is 1142 01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:58,560 recommending uh that you refuse this annexation as it is only a single home 1143 01:57:55,040 --> 01:58:00,400 on with really no development potential. >> Okay. 1144 01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:03,199 » So, we're just seeking direction from council tonight. 1145 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:06,360 » Okay. From the 1146 01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:15,760 » You wanted a motion in the affirmative to approve and then we'll just vote it 1147 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:21,560 down. I believe that I believe that's what we did this the previous time. 1148 01:58:18,159 --> 01:58:21,560 » There she is. 1149 01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:31,360 » Your honor, I move to uh proceed with annexation. 1150 01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:37,960 » Second. >> Okay. I have a motion and a second. 1151 01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:37,960 Anything from the public? 1152 01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:55,360 Doug Beals's 2342 Odessa. I'm I'm I don't know what to say. This 1153 01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:59,520 seems like a ridiculous >> I agree 1154 01:58:56,080 --> 01:59:04,320 » thing. All I want is water. Don't want to be annexed into the city. Had to 1155 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:09,199 apply to be annexed into the city. I'm asking you to deny that application even 1156 01:59:06,719 --> 01:59:13,840 though I applied. I'm sure this has something to do with 1157 01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:19,280 rural water. Uh, don't know that for sure. Guessing that. I'd encourage 1158 01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:23,520 whoever's in charge of this to look at a different procedure to get water to a 1159 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:26,960 house that's had water from the city of Marshalltown for over 30 years. Thank 1160 01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:29,599 you. >> Thank you, 1161 01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:32,599 » I have a question for Mr. Beals. >> Yes. 1162 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:42,320 Um, since you just moved into the neighborhood, would you prefer we annex 1163 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:45,360 the whole sit straight into the >> the uh 1164 01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:47,119 » I would that make you have would that make you wellreceived with your 1165 01:59:46,719 --> 01:59:50,400 neighbors? >> I would probably get some push back from 1166 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:53,280 my neighbors. [laughter] >> Ed wins. 1167 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:58,880 » I guarantee the city will get push back for me if I am annexed in because I want 1168 01:59:55,920 --> 02:00:02,159 my section of the street to receive all the city services. So, 1169 02:00:00,719 --> 02:00:08,480 » thank you. I believe this is one of those catch 22s where the water 1170 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:14,320 department is making sure that um the city has denied you 1171 02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:16,159 so that they can go ahead and put it in. So, 1172 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:19,280 » your honor, >> yes, 1173 02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:23,800 » this is a a strange situation. A lawyer that has a loss for words. 1174 02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:32,480 » We better make a note of that. >> You shall do that, counselor. 1175 02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:34,639 Okay, let's have roll call. >> Thompson, 1176 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,920 » no. >> Yas Gomez, 1177 02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:37,280 » no. >> Cahill, 1178 02:00:36,719 --> 02:00:38,560 » no. >> Mitchell, 1179 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:39,520 » no. >> Nicholls, 1180 02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:41,360 » no. >> Schneider, 1181 02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:43,040 » no. >> There you go. 1182 02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:46,199 » No. >> Been denied. 1183 02:00:48,719 --> 02:00:58,080 » Melissa's back. >> Melissa's back. [laughter] 1184 02:00:54,639 --> 02:01:04,719 » Where'd you go for lunch? Okay, moving on. Uh, number three is the Edgewood 1185 02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:08,840 Edgewood Industrial Park proposal. I believe we have someone here. 1186 02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:19,000 » Your honor, may I say something before we start? 1187 02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,000 » Okay. 1188 02:01:19,098 --> 02:01:25,360 [laughter] I'm going to go on the record and say 1189 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:33,520 that this proposal is about a data center 1190 02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:37,679 and in the intent and the spirit of the moratorum 1191 02:01:35,679 --> 02:01:44,400 that we should not be having this presentation tonight. 1192 02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:50,719 » Okay. And I disagree that uh this should not have been on the agenda. 1193 02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:57,520 Um, I know that legal is going to say this is about land, but it's about land 1194 02:01:54,800 --> 02:02:01,679 for a data center. So, I just want to go on the record and say until the 1195 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:05,280 moratorium's over, this we should not be having this conversation. Thank you, 1196 02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,960 your honor. >> Yes, I believe you were in the room when 1197 02:02:07,199 --> 02:02:14,174 planning and zoning explained what the moratorum was and was not. 1198 02:02:12,154 --> 02:02:14,174 [applause] 1199 02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:19,520 » Haven't even spoke yet. You guys were clapping for me already? 1200 02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:22,320 » All right. >> In defense of that, your honor, I know 1201 02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:26,639 we could have handled this through a resolution and it would have been in 1202 02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:33,199 effect, but the city administrator chose to reach out to legal legal advised a 1203 02:02:31,149 --> 02:02:37,840 [clears throat] ordinance. So, yes, I know what planning and zoning 1204 02:02:35,679 --> 02:02:42,719 says. I know it's not a 4-month mortorium. It has an end date. So, 1205 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:47,679 whenever it goes into effect, I'm well aware of that. I said the spirit and the 1206 02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:54,560 intent of what was voted on back in July, the 52 motion, I thought sent a 1207 02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:58,960 message to city staff that the council did not want to have any conversations 1208 02:02:56,719 --> 02:03:05,679 about data centers. >> I don't believe it had any wording like 1209 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:10,800 that in it. But that being said, >> thank you. Good afternoon. My name is 1210 02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:15,040 Jared Olry. I'm the CEO of UR Energy of Marshalltown, Iowa at 3001 Cory Road. 1211 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:19,199 I've been in the utility business for more than 30 years and more importantly, 1212 02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:22,400 I'm a Marshalltown guy. I was born and raised in this community and I've had 1213 02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:26,639 the opportunity to build several successful businesses right here in 1214 02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:30,080 Marshall County. When the Datio hit Marshalltown 6 years ago, I think you 1215 02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:35,599 can all remember that Oolie Electric, my business, was uh in front and center. Uh 1216 02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:39,760 we help rebuild homes, businesses, and communities alongside our friends and 1217 02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:44,480 neighbors. This isn't just a place where I do business. It's my home. I have 1218 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:48,320 family, lifelong friends, including grandchildren growing up here. So, when 1219 02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:52,480 I when I look at the future of Marshalltown, I take it personally. I 1220 02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:56,239 want to see this community grow, create good opportunities, and move forward. 1221 02:03:54,159 --> 02:04:02,159 But I also want us to do it the right way. That's why I'm excited to introduce 1222 02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:06,719 Amir with Swarm Systems. Amir's approach is different. They are focused on a 1223 02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:10,639 smaller, more manageable AI inference data center that can fit into our 1224 02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:14,960 community like Marshalltown while being thoughtful about our resources, 1225 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:19,599 including water, power, infrastructure, jobs, and the long-term impact on our 1226 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:23,280 community. I believe Marshalltown has the opportunity to be part of the next 1227 02:04:21,199 --> 02:04:27,760 generation of technology and energy development. But I also believe we need 1228 02:04:25,199 --> 02:04:32,480 to do it responsibly with the community at the table and with people who 1229 02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:35,840 understand that this is our home. I'm proud to introduce air with Storm 1230 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:39,599 Systems and looking forward to seeing what we can accomplish together for 1231 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:44,280 Marshalltown and the future of our community. Thank you. 1232 02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:44,280 » Thank you, Jared. 1233 02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:02,880 » I can bring your presentation up if you want me to. 1234 02:05:00,719 --> 02:05:08,679 » Uh, yeah. have a clicker >> and then you can you can just use the 1235 02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:08,679 mouse there on the podium. 1236 02:05:08,719 --> 02:05:11,960 » Oh, okay. 1237 02:05:13,679 --> 02:05:17,159 » This one right here. 1238 02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:22,679 » Heather, can he unplug that HDMI? 1239 02:05:25,599 --> 02:05:30,679 » You want to unplug it from the Duke and then plug it in. 1240 02:05:36,239 --> 02:05:39,400 This is 1241 02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:58,080 » good evening. >> Evening. 1242 02:05:55,599 --> 02:06:03,520 » Uh my name is Amir. I'm here from Swarm Systems and we have put an offer in to 1243 02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:08,119 buy 21 acres of city- owned land out in Edgewood um industrial park. 1244 02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:19,920 So, this is as uh Gary mentioned our our intent is to build a data center on that 1245 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:24,639 property. Um our approach is different and I'm going to walk you through our 1246 02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:29,280 approach kind of the overall approach of the industry as of late. why we believe 1247 02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:34,079 it's a differentiated one and why we think it makes sense for Marshall Town. 1248 02:06:31,679 --> 02:06:39,840 We're going to cover power, electricity rates, noise, a lot of water, uh 1249 02:06:37,599 --> 02:06:43,280 discussions, not a lot of water use. Uh we'll go through all of it. We have 1250 02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:46,400 numbers, we have figures. I'm sure you're curious what it's going to look 1251 02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:50,119 like, where it's going to sit, and we'll go through all of it today. 1252 02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:09,040 Yikes. All right. So, we are not here asking for approval 1253 02:07:06,639 --> 02:07:14,560 to build a data center. We are here asking for approval of a land purchase 1254 02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:21,679 contract to enter into an option to advance due diligence um and on power on 1255 02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:25,920 land on environmental and on civil so we can understand what the project actually 1256 02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:30,239 could look like and should look like for Marshalltown. We are not asking for any 1257 02:07:28,639 --> 02:07:33,199 exemptions to the moratorium. In fact, we support it. I believe the way 1258 02:07:32,079 --> 02:07:37,920 Marshalltown has gone about the moratorum is one of the more responsible 1259 02:07:35,119 --> 02:07:42,159 ways I've seen in the country with a proactive approach to pass an ordinance 1260 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:47,760 specific to data centers that makes sense for the areas that apply for its 1261 02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:52,400 zoning. We are not going to request any property tax abatements now or in the 1262 02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:58,239 future and we have not asked nor will we ask anyone to sign any NDAs uh as part 1263 02:07:55,679 --> 02:08:01,679 of our process. If any were signed or were asked to be signed, they were not 1264 02:07:59,599 --> 02:08:05,520 part of our project. It may be for a different one within Marshalltown or 1265 02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:11,199 Marshall County. Once the time comes, this project will 1266 02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:15,199 have to go through the zoning process, the planning and approval process, just 1267 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:18,400 like any other project would. Regardless of the moratorum, once it's lifted, 1268 02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:21,760 there's still going to be planning and zoning in place. we'll have to apply and 1269 02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:25,599 we'll have to go and the project will stand on its own two feet regardless of 1270 02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:30,159 the purchase option whether it's entered into or not today. 1271 02:08:28,079 --> 02:08:35,520 So swarm focuses on a different kind of data center. We focus on about 25 to 75 1272 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:39,280 megawatts is our sweet spot. The reason why is we focus on places where power 1273 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:43,679 infrastructure already exists today. We're not looking to tap high voltage 1274 02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:47,280 lines and build a gigawatt campus. We're not looking to plow up a thousand acres 1275 02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:52,560 of farmland. We're usually looking for under 50 acres of land largely as 1276 02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:56,159 setbacks and buffer areas so we can take advantage of power and headroom that 1277 02:08:54,159 --> 02:09:00,560 exists today to bring economic benefit to more communities that either can't or 1278 02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:04,320 don't want to have a hypers scale campus in their backyard. Our team has 1279 02:09:02,639 --> 02:09:09,920 experienced across 3 gawatt of power infrastructure and a long history of 1280 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:14,239 real estate development. So a little bit about the project before 1281 02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:19,119 we get into it. You may have some questions of what is a data center. At 1282 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:24,960 the end of the day, it is a concrete building with computers in it. It also 1283 02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:28,719 has a lot of power going in because it it powers the IT systems within the data 1284 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:34,480 center as well as the cooling systems both inside and out. 1285 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:38,320 There's several uses of computing, many of which we all use today. Could be 1286 02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:43,840 Google Maps, it could be YouTube, could be Facebook talking about the data 1287 02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:47,679 center in town. It could be um storing your family's pictures. It could be 1288 02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:51,440 using AI. It could be storing medical records or anything else. Instead of 1289 02:09:49,679 --> 02:09:55,440 having to carry around a large server yourself everywhere you go, you can 1290 02:09:53,119 --> 02:09:59,360 carry around one chip on your phone and the rest of it lives in the cloud or on 1291 02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:04,000 the internet and all those things live in a data center somewhere. They've 1292 02:10:01,599 --> 02:10:10,560 existed since the 60s. They've been around for dozens of years. Um and they 1293 02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:15,119 serve our daily lives in and out. So, it doesn't create physical objects. 1294 02:10:13,599 --> 02:10:18,719 There's not a lot of freight. There aren't goods being shipped in and out. 1295 02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:23,840 All the signals come in through fiber optic cables. They go into the servers 1296 02:10:21,599 --> 02:10:29,760 and they leave as basically blinking lights on um on the fiber without 1297 02:10:28,079 --> 02:10:33,280 many components being shipped in and out. So, you're not going to see trucks 1298 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:37,520 at night time. You're not going to see lots of really any traffic beyond the 1299 02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:41,920 initial construction period. There's no industrial waste. There's no exhaust and 1300 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:45,079 there's hardly any emissions outside of an emergency. 1301 02:10:46,239 --> 02:10:52,400 Now, data centers have been getting a bad rap recently because of water, 1302 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:55,840 power, noise, and a few other things. And it's not without reason. Data 1303 02:10:54,320 --> 02:11:01,119 centers haven't always been built the correct way. Data centers have used a 1304 02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:06,159 lot of water in the past. In fact, up to recently, not all the hyperscalers had 1305 02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:09,040 committed to closed loop systems. Evaporative technologies have 1306 02:11:07,599 --> 02:11:13,840 historically been used for whether it's steel mills, coal plants, nuclear 1307 02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:17,920 facilities, or anything else. It's an efficient way to cool things down. But 1308 02:11:16,159 --> 02:11:22,719 it doesn't make sense. It might make sense to use water to create power. It 1309 02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:27,360 doesn't make sense to use it to use power. And so the industry has since 1310 02:11:24,639 --> 02:11:31,280 shifted, including our company, as a commitment to closed loop systems. It 1311 02:11:29,599 --> 02:11:37,280 basically operates like a radiator in your car. You fill it up once. It's a 1312 02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:42,000 combination of u propyline glycol and water about 80% water 20% propyline 1313 02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:46,400 glycol and it circulates for about 10 years in a closed system that doesn't 1314 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:54,400 have exposure to ambient air. It doesn't leak and it doesn't evaporate. You fill 1315 02:11:50,159 --> 02:12:00,639 it up one time and it just recirculates inside the chips back out to a fan. 1316 02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:04,880 Basically, a fan blows ambient room, you know, uh air onto it. It cools back down 1317 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:10,880 to about 100 degrees and goes back into the chips. As a result, we will end up 1318 02:12:08,079 --> 02:12:14,159 using, as you'll see on a further slide, about as much water as a handful of 1319 02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:18,960 homes. We do not we will not be using any 1320 02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:23,199 on-site generation at this location. That is the noise that you hear at a lot 1321 02:12:20,639 --> 02:12:27,760 of these data centers. There's a case in point of someone who might have built a 1322 02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:32,719 power plant without permits in the city of Memphis. And that is when you 1323 02:12:30,079 --> 02:12:38,079 basically have jet engine turbines running 24/7. It's incredibly loud, 1324 02:12:35,679 --> 02:12:41,199 incredibly disruptive. And that's what happens when you basically build a power 1325 02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:45,520 plant to run a data center. Doesn't make sense in a place like this, nor will it 1326 02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:49,520 happen. A grid tie data center, those components are relatively quiet. The 1327 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:54,800 only noise comes from the fans that blow onto the closed loop systems as well as 1328 02:12:53,199 --> 02:13:00,560 from the generators in the event of testing or backup generation. 1329 02:12:58,639 --> 02:13:05,599 There's been a lot of discussion about electricity bills going up and we'll get 1330 02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:10,480 to that in a little bit more detail later, but largely that happens when the 1331 02:13:08,639 --> 02:13:14,719 data centers are built and the power is brought to the data centers. A lot of 1332 02:13:12,639 --> 02:13:20,320 capex is spent to bring that infrastructure out and utilities have 1333 02:13:17,679 --> 02:13:25,119 been somewhat in the past reckless to create that burden for the rateayers. 1334 02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:29,360 Since the utilities have completely changed their tune and Alliant is case 1335 02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:32,480 in point of the best way to do it, they will be the utility provider for this 1336 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:37,679 project just like at many of your homes and businesses. 1337 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:41,440 When the P data center is brought to the power on infrastructure that exists 1338 02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:45,679 today as it does currently at this location, there isn't a need to build 1339 02:13:44,079 --> 02:13:50,320 all the infrastructure. Those costs aren't advertised by the rate payers and 1340 02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:53,280 any costs that are needed to build out the infrastructure beyond what exists 1341 02:13:51,679 --> 02:13:56,719 today are borne solely by the data center developer. we'd be posting a 1342 02:13:55,280 --> 02:14:01,520 financial security for anything that needs to be built to guarantee that even 1343 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:06,400 if the project doesn't exist only we could stand to lose any money versus the 1344 02:14:04,159 --> 02:14:09,280 utility or if it rateayers. So what you may end up seeing in time with the data 1345 02:14:08,159 --> 02:14:13,920 centers paying for all the infrastructure and maintenance is that 1346 02:14:11,599 --> 02:14:18,159 the costs end up may end up coming down in time but I understand you're going to 1347 02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:22,880 want to see it before you believe it. That said, Alliant has frozen utility 1348 02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:26,480 rates through 2029 uh in this particular instance. 1349 02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:31,360 So, what not to do, evaporative cooling, 1350 02:14:29,119 --> 02:14:34,960 building power plants in your backyard, or building data centers far from the 1351 02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:39,840 grid where it takes a lot of dollars and and effort to bring the power to the 1352 02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:45,679 system. We intend to do none of these things in the Edgewood property uh in 1353 02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:49,360 the Edgewood industrial park. We're going to have a closed loop system. 1354 02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:52,639 We're going to be purely grid tied and we're going to tap into existing 1355 02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:57,199 headroom where the power has been built and is currently unused. 1356 02:14:55,679 --> 02:15:00,480 We also intend to build a much smaller product than we've been seeing in the 1357 02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:05,599 news. A hybrid scale campus can range from anywhere from 7 to 15 buildings 1358 02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:10,719 often in millions measured in millions of square feet covering hundreds if not 1359 02:15:08,239 --> 02:15:16,639 more recently thousands of acres. We're proposing what we hope to build is 1360 02:15:13,199 --> 02:15:21,599 125,000t single building on 21 acres of land, relatively low density compared to 1361 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:26,560 a comparable industrial project on a similar size acreage. Uh it's smaller 1362 02:15:24,079 --> 02:15:32,560 than your neighborhood Walmart. It's about the size of a Home Depot, 1363 02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:37,199 singlestory, about 35 ft tall, um and about not too much bigger than a couple 1364 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:42,239 of football fields. You can fit about 20 of these buildings into or developments 1365 02:15:40,639 --> 02:15:47,119 into the size of one hypers scale project. They're simply not the same 1366 02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:52,560 product. Um what we are within city limits. We're 1367 02:15:49,599 --> 02:15:58,639 targeting between 15 >> 15 and 40 megawws served directly by 1368 02:15:55,440 --> 02:16:01,599 Alliant uh infrastructure. As of now, we have no plans of any 1369 02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:05,679 additional buildings of the land and we'd be very happy with this in this 1370 02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:12,920 single project as we're going to show it to you today which provides substantial 1371 02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:12,920 buffers for adjacent uses. 1372 02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:20,480 » I'll show it to you on the a few slides. Yeah. Um we'll go all the way down from 1373 02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:25,520 a high level to a specific one. This is not the hypers scale proposal that you 1374 02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:31,199 may have seen on the news or in uh other reporting in the last few weeks. This is 1375 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:37,040 simply a 21 acre proposed project for a single building. The parties are not 1376 02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:43,679 related and not affiliated at this time. So let's talk water. Water is largely 1377 02:16:41,359 --> 02:16:49,920 the most controversial issue with data centers. If you look at the top on the 1378 02:16:47,519 --> 02:16:54,160 top right, a steel mill uses a tremendous amount of water about 10 1379 02:16:51,359 --> 02:16:58,639 million gallons a day. That is not uncommon for things you see in the last 1380 02:16:56,160 --> 02:17:04,160 century for major industrial heavy industrial uses. Now data centers when 1381 02:17:01,679 --> 02:17:08,240 they first came around a big data center was maybe 10 megawatts 15 megawatt not 1382 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:14,000 too different than what we're proposing today. It didn't use too much water to 1383 02:17:11,439 --> 02:17:19,439 use an evaporate technology to have a much more efficient 1384 02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:22,719 power to it conversion. You get more compute for every megawatt that you draw 1385 02:17:21,439 --> 02:17:27,519 from the grid. It made sense until the data centers got 1386 02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:33,120 so big. If you extrapolate the same evaporative technologies over a 1 gawatt 1387 02:17:31,519 --> 02:17:38,000 campus, it will use about 2.8 billion gallons a 1388 02:17:35,439 --> 02:17:42,639 year. That's unreasonable. And as a reason, the 1389 02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:46,960 industry has has moved away from it. Those will never get done in Iowa and 1390 02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:52,800 it's not a technology we even consider. Um, we also show an ethanol plant for 1391 02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:57,920 comparison. And then that last bar, that 7.6 million gallons, that's the entire 1392 02:17:54,960 --> 02:18:00,960 green down below combined. And so we kind of break that out because we had to 1393 02:17:59,359 --> 02:18:05,280 show it in scale, otherwise it wouldn't quite even show up compared to the 1394 02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:12,160 evaporative technologies. But we show about 5 million gallons for 1395 02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:16,000 100 homes, one sitown restaurant being about 2 million gallons. This is an 1396 02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:21,760 annual number. And us at under half a million gallons a 1397 02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:28,319 year. So, for comparison, it's about 10 homes, if not less, including our annual 1398 02:18:26,319 --> 02:18:32,559 fill, which is really one time. And it'll recirculate in that radiator for 1399 02:18:30,479 --> 02:18:36,080 10 years straight. So, we'll be actually a little bit 1400 02:18:33,679 --> 02:18:42,559 closer to 250,000 gallons per year once we build it on 1401 02:18:38,960 --> 02:18:47,920 year 1. It'll be one of the, if not the least water consuming uses on the same 1402 02:18:45,359 --> 02:18:52,240 acreage of land that that you could possibly build. If you build an office 1403 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:57,599 building, a retail center, a residential facility, or even single family homes on 1404 02:18:54,479 --> 02:19:04,880 the same acreage, you will likely build more than 5 to 10 homes on 21 acres, and 1405 02:19:01,599 --> 02:19:09,679 you will likely use more water. So, if there is a hard cap set in the 1406 02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:13,120 ordinance of the amount of gallons we're able to use each year, we're happy to 1407 02:19:11,519 --> 02:19:17,599 comply with it. We'll likely have an easier time complying with a water cap 1408 02:19:15,359 --> 02:19:23,280 than just about any use in all of Marshall Town. 1409 02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:28,880 Let's talk noise. Data centers can be very loud if you 1410 02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:34,160 build a power plant. the on-site gas turbines. And let's be clear, decibb 1411 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:42,080 effectively double every time you add 10 dB to the dumper. So an 80 to 120 decel 1412 02:19:38,960 --> 02:19:47,439 onsite gas turbine plant, that is basically a rock concert. So again, not 1413 02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:52,000 something we're proposing here, but often when you hear these 1414 02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:57,040 uh horror stories or you see things on social media, a lot of times it is a gas 1415 02:19:54,319 --> 02:20:03,040 plant that is being built. Turbines have that hum noise that is notorious. Um 1416 02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:07,280 that's not usually coming from the actual components used to cool a high 1417 02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:11,280 efficiency AI oriented data center. We show a 1418 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:14,240 vacuum cleaner in normal conversation. My voice right now through these 1419 02:20:12,160 --> 02:20:18,479 speakers is probably closer to 80. My voice without the microphone is probably 1420 02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:23,840 closer to 60. [snorts] And we're going to be in the 40 to 50 range. So, we took 1421 02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:27,280 a decibel meter, a calibrated one, and we went out to the edges, the western 1422 02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:31,600 edges of this property that we're proposing, and we'll get into the 1423 02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:36,240 details later, and we measured all along the property line, and it's right around 1424 02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:39,760 50 today, um, coming from JBS and adjacent uses. So, we don't anticipate 1425 02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:43,280 being any louder than what's already out there today. We'll also with these 1426 02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:47,920 numbers be able to comply with the existing general industrial zoning 1427 02:20:44,960 --> 02:20:53,359 limits. you will not need to make the audio the the acoustical um limits any 1428 02:20:51,840 --> 02:21:00,160 more permissive for a data center than they already are for industrial use. Uh 1429 02:20:56,319 --> 02:21:06,319 the and and the generators that are on site only operate during daytime for 1430 02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:10,160 testing about half an hour per month. So about 6 hours out of the year they're 1431 02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:13,600 operating and they never operate at night. And the only time they all come 1432 02:21:11,439 --> 02:21:18,399 on is in the event of an actual grid outage where I imagine many of you would 1433 02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:23,040 also turn on your uh generators to to get through the night. 1434 02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:28,160 A light wind through the trees is 40 dB. That's literally the wind the leaves 1435 02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:30,640 rustling in the wind. So it's hard to understand these numbers, but I 1436 02:21:29,359 --> 02:21:34,000 recommend all of you get a decibel meter, download one on your phone, hold 1437 02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:37,040 it up to your refrigerator, hold up your dishwasher, hold it up to your barking 1438 02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:40,720 dog, and you'll get a good understanding. or go over to the 1439 02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:44,399 property and see how loud it is today and recognize that we don't intend to 1440 02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:48,880 raise a noise from what it is today. And in fact, we can't because the ordinance 1441 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:53,200 would not let us. We would not be able to get our permits without acoustical 1442 02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:56,720 modeling that independently verifies that we will not break those acoustical 1443 02:21:55,120 --> 02:22:01,520 limits. And if we do, the city will have police powers to enforce it. If we 1444 02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:05,600 cannot adhere to those limits, we won't get a 1445 02:22:03,520 --> 02:22:09,200 permit. Also not something we're applying for today, but once the 1446 02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:14,640 ordinance is in place, that's what we're looking to do. Data centers are very 1447 02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:19,439 expensive. As a result, they're worth a lot of money. That creates an 1448 02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:24,160 opportunity for property taxes. For a long time, data centers would come in 1449 02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:28,560 and ask for property tax abatements, incentives, and cuts. We are coming on 1450 02:22:27,040 --> 02:22:34,160 the record and saying we will not ask for any property tax abatements, any 1451 02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:40,720 property tax cuts, no pilots, no side deals for the full freight of what will 1452 02:22:37,359 --> 02:22:44,960 be assessed on our real property that will be paid to the city, the county, 1453 02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:49,280 and the schools. We estimate that'll be about $3 million a year broken down as 1454 02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:52,680 you see on the right. And that is an annual figure. 1455 02:22:52,720 --> 02:23:01,520 The data centers do bring high-paying quality jobs. We estimate this facility 1456 02:22:58,319 --> 02:23:06,880 with one building bring 50 to 60 permanent positions to Marshall Town. 1457 02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:12,000 Now, what's really important here is that those actually become Marshall Town 1458 02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:16,640 jobs. It doesn't make any sense for me to tell you the new jobs and then ship 1459 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:23,439 people in to fill them. So, we're going to make sure to create training programs 1460 02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:28,800 and dedicated data center technician um routes with local community colleges um 1461 02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:34,160 Iowa Valley Community College and Marshtown Community College to make sure 1462 02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:40,000 that a number of those positions on this building and hopefully future projects 1463 02:23:36,479 --> 02:23:46,080 as well by others or ourselves are being taken by those who live here, 1464 02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:51,040 work here and pay taxes here, creating more economic becoming an economic 1465 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:56,160 engine for Marshalltown. About 300 to 400 job years in the way of 1466 02:23:53,520 --> 02:24:02,080 construction jobs. Where that can be useful is if the developer makes a point 1467 02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:07,280 to use local labor, local equipment rentals, local vendors, local dirt 1468 02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:11,920 haulers, local everybody. all the way down to the coffee beans and the 1469 02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:16,880 trailers and the facility to local restaurants catering meals every month 1470 02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:22,160 for the crew. The more we're able to tailor to the city and to its needs, the 1471 02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:25,160 more that will mean for everyone who's involved. 1472 02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:30,399 Let's talk about where the project's going to be, where we intend to build 1473 02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:35,439 the project and where we have placed an offer to purchase. 1474 02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:43,120 This is on the northern side of town off of Edgewood Street near 8th Avenue um in 1475 02:24:41,439 --> 02:24:48,479 what is known as the Edgewood Industrial Park extension. 1476 02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:53,040 So, our offer is for four parcels comprising about 21 acres of land 1477 02:24:50,640 --> 02:25:00,000 currently zoned general industrial intended and built by the city, graded, 1478 02:24:57,439 --> 02:25:04,720 serviced with utilities brought in for an industrial user to come in and build 1479 02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:09,439 an industrial project. That's what we intend to do. 1480 02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:14,560 Our adjacent uses to the southeast is the JBS plant. To the northeast is the 1481 02:25:12,479 --> 02:25:19,840 compost facility. To the north is Riverview Park and to the west and to 1482 02:25:16,880 --> 02:25:25,760 the south to an extent is residential. Now that's the critical component. We 1483 02:25:23,439 --> 02:25:31,600 have to be careful in designing this project to make sure that it does not 1484 02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:36,240 impact our neighbors so we can be a good neighbor into the community. Otherwise, 1485 02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:40,399 we'll never be welcome back to build another project and nor will another 1486 02:25:38,319 --> 02:25:44,479 community let us in. And this is how we think we've designed a project that 1487 02:25:42,080 --> 02:25:49,760 makes sense for this location. We're looking to purchase 21 acres despite 1488 02:25:46,880 --> 02:25:53,680 only looking to build a building that is uh just about less than three because 1489 02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:58,200 this is how we want to do it in a very minimally if not no impact way. 1490 02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:07,120 This is our proposed concept plan. And of course, we have not yet secured site 1491 02:26:05,760 --> 02:26:11,439 control and therefore we have not released all of our due diligence 1492 02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:16,319 efforts to get our geotechnical analysis, phase one environmental surve 1493 02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:20,960 um assessments and uh surveys and everything else. But we have come up 1494 02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:24,960 with this concept plan. The intent is to create as m much of a buffer as 1495 02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:30,479 maximally possible from the western side of the property to what is the 1496 02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:37,120 residential uses on that side and also to the residential uses on the 1497 02:26:33,760 --> 02:26:41,399 um southeast side. So I'll use this screen if you guys can point here. 1498 02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:47,920 So this setback, it's not quite a setback, but we've actually pushed the 1499 02:26:45,439 --> 02:26:53,120 building back about 700 ft from the western edge. 1500 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:58,399 We're looking to line the northern, western, and southern limits with a tree 1501 02:26:56,240 --> 02:27:03,280 line as well as a full campus perimeter fence for security, but also for as a 1502 02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:07,600 visual barrier, an aesthetically pleasing one. We'll have an entrance to 1503 02:27:05,439 --> 02:27:13,840 the north, a secure one with 24/7 security and a kiosk. This is our campus 1504 02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:18,960 entrance with parking and two to three dock high doors on the south side. 1505 02:27:17,359 --> 02:27:23,520 all of the components that make any noise at all. The building itself is 1506 02:27:20,960 --> 02:27:26,479 silent. It's a concrete building and the components inside the building because 1507 02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:30,160 they're liquid cooled again from that radiator, 1508 02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:33,920 they it's very it's it's nearly silent on the inside of the building and so no 1509 02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:37,840 noise comes from the building out. All the components that make noise are 1510 02:27:36,319 --> 02:27:43,280 placed on the opposite side of the building on the east side. So, the 1511 02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:47,439 building itself, which is 175x 714 ft, serves as a full length buffer for any 1512 02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:52,560 noise before it can hit the west side of the property or any of our neighbors to 1513 02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:56,640 the south. These are the backup generation systems. They're going to be 1514 02:27:54,080 --> 02:28:02,319 diesel doublewalled um containerized solutions with quiet 1515 02:27:58,880 --> 02:28:06,640 kits within them. And then we have our free cooling farm on the right side. 1516 02:28:05,120 --> 02:28:11,680 Those are free cooling systems basically blowing ambient air. And those will also 1517 02:28:08,960 --> 02:28:18,640 be equipped with quiet kits that allow for a lower decel limit from um from the 1518 02:28:15,359 --> 02:28:24,800 source. We intend to build a screen wall, a wing wall coming off of the 1519 02:28:20,319 --> 02:28:29,760 building, extending to a point to where it will catch any line of sight from the 1520 02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:35,280 chiller farm to the southern side of the buildings, allowing us to maintain the 1521 02:28:32,240 --> 02:28:40,319 required ordinance limits for noise at any residential property. 1522 02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:45,680 We are going to be able to comply with the industrial limits on the north and 1523 02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:49,600 to the east. Um, and we will screen all mechanical components as is currently 1524 02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:53,920 required by the ordinance. And we'd love to get the city's input on how to do 1525 02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:56,960 that. We could put more trees. We can put some sort of wall with some 1526 02:28:55,200 --> 02:29:02,080 decorative artistic solutions that the community can vote on maybe from a local 1527 02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:07,040 artist. We can put other components. And there there's different ways where we 1528 02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:11,600 can use some of this filler space here to beautify the public right away. 1529 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:17,399 There's numerous ways to use this extra land and to find a way to bring the 1530 02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:17,399 community into this project. 1531 02:29:22,479 --> 02:29:29,040 kind of touched this. But the reason this is the layout is we've made sure 1532 02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:34,560 that any noise leaving those systems which 1533 02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:38,240 are kind of the loudest component are going to be blocked by either the will 1534 02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:43,359 the building or the wing wall to the south before they travel an additional 1535 02:29:40,399 --> 02:29:46,720 500 to 700 ft um before any residential property lines. Anything that isn't 1536 02:29:45,359 --> 02:29:50,720 going to be buffered by those points will have to travel well over a thousand 1537 02:29:48,479 --> 02:29:54,880 feet um before it gets to any residential property being again well 1538 02:29:52,399 --> 02:29:59,840 below the required limits. It basically won't be any louder than it is today. 1539 02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:04,960 Uh and I mentioned the quiet kits eliminate 1540 02:30:02,399 --> 02:30:10,240 that hum noise that some people just don't want to spend the money to do. It 1541 02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:15,520 does cost substantially more, but it is the only option as we see it in a 1542 02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:15,520 location like this. 1543 02:30:16,399 --> 02:30:23,840 some 3D views just showing kind of the the scale and um bulk of the building. 1544 02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:29,520 You can kind of see the shadows hiding the generators into the rear and showing 1545 02:30:27,280 --> 02:30:33,920 the uh parking along the building and the docks and the substantial kind of 1546 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:38,800 green space and setbacks on the far side. So, anything that resembles an 1547 02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:44,640 industrial use will be on the east. Anything that is effectively a buffer 1548 02:30:40,640 --> 02:30:44,640 will be on the west. 1549 02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:49,240 This is another view from the opposite angle. 1550 02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:57,120 Some profiles that we put together um showing the secure fencing. This is 1551 02:30:55,359 --> 02:31:01,520 obviously a concept. What we would need to do is get city and community feedback 1552 02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:05,840 on what they would want a building like this to look like. What colors do you 1553 02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:09,920 want to see? What designs do you want to see? How do you want this to look and 1554 02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:15,439 feel in your in the neighborhood? Do you want it to be invisible? Do you want it 1555 02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:19,120 to stand out? And and we have presented something that we think is the best way 1556 02:31:17,439 --> 02:31:24,080 to kind of have it blend in, which is use native colors, patterns, textures, 1557 02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:27,200 um to essentially try to kind of hide the 1558 02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:34,680 building within the existing landscape, which has some browns and and greens to 1559 02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:34,680 to blend into. 1560 02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:43,520 This is effectively what the view would be from the east uh on 8th Avenue 1561 02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:46,640 looking looking west uh over a what would be 8ft kind of mechanical screen 1562 02:31:45,359 --> 02:31:50,240 wall that's kind of designed to camouflage it the building kind of 1563 02:31:48,399 --> 02:31:55,760 peeking out to the north again it's a 35 ft tall building. It is not twotory. It 1564 02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:59,439 is not going to tower over anything. It'll be much less impactful than a lot 1565 02:31:57,439 --> 02:32:03,040 of the industrial uses that are already out there in the way that it kind of 1566 02:32:00,720 --> 02:32:06,880 looks and feels. This is a simulation of what the view 1567 02:32:04,880 --> 02:32:12,000 would be from Riverview Park to the north. It's about thousand feet across 1568 02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:18,160 the pond. Um, and this is a view looking south. Um, with the kind of yard to the 1569 02:32:16,399 --> 02:32:23,280 right, the building headon with the jewel box uh, and the equipment yard to 1570 02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:26,680 the west. They' be effectively silent from this distance. 1571 02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:36,000 This is the view from the west looking east. So from the adjacent properties 1572 02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:40,319 across the storm water parcel, uh it's about 135 ft to where we can plant our 1573 02:32:38,479 --> 02:32:44,160 trees. This is what it would probably look like on day one when we can plant 1574 02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:48,240 the trees in. And of course, with some time, they will grow and the project 1575 02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:53,280 will effectively be hidden from view. So it won't sound any different than it 1576 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:56,640 does today. It'll effectively look the same because instead of corn, you'll 1577 02:32:54,640 --> 02:33:01,760 have some beautiful trees there. And we believe it'll have essentially no impact 1578 02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:05,200 to to the neighbors. But you may not like that concrete building. You may not 1579 02:33:03,359 --> 02:33:11,520 think it it looks that good in those in those visuals. But what if I told you a 1580 02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:16,080 data center could be beautiful? We intend to build something that you 1581 02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:21,359 would be proud to have here. Something that has a glass jewel box with some 1582 02:33:19,520 --> 02:33:26,080 details, drought tolerant landscaping again to 1583 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:32,640 minimize our water usage. Downward-f facing lights that do not light up this 1584 02:33:29,439 --> 02:33:36,960 guy. Those examples that you've seen are people running construction crews 247 1585 02:33:35,439 --> 02:33:41,840 with flood lamps. That will not happen here. Construction will only happen 1586 02:33:38,319 --> 02:33:45,680 during daytime hours. Um and any lights will have to have a cut off to make sure 1587 02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:49,640 that there's no spillover into any neighboring uses or properties. 1588 02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:56,479 This prop this property will have 247 security. It'll have man traps. It'll 1589 02:33:53,680 --> 02:34:02,479 have um biometric scanning. uh it'll have all 1590 02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:06,960 the kind of a requirements that you would want as an enterprise 1591 02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:14,240 um trusting this property and this project and this location with um your 1592 02:34:10,399 --> 02:34:17,520 prize data. It'll it'll effectively be um 1593 02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:20,399 it'll have kind of all the security components that a hyperscope project 1594 02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:25,840 would but without the same kind of scope, scale or impact. 1595 02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:28,800 So, the only way this project gets built is 1596 02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:32,640 if you believe we're going to be a good neighbor, 1597 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:38,720 we've heard a few things. We did some research on our own. Um, but we think 1598 02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:43,760 there's a few things that we could do to help [snorts] um be a good neighbor. Uh, 1599 02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:48,240 the Riverview Park to the north seems like a good inspiration. It'd be a great 1600 02:34:46,160 --> 02:34:53,520 place for us to contribute to parks and wreck. um whether it's through some sort 1601 02:34:50,479 --> 02:34:58,399 of annual contribution uh or an ongoing sponsorship program, whether it's that 1602 02:34:55,680 --> 02:35:04,080 park or different park to help give Marshall Town's children a place to play 1603 02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:08,479 and um other places that can beautify the city. 1604 02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:14,880 I've been watching enough of these meetings to know that this uh this darn 1605 02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:18,319 bridge has been a a thing of discussion for some time. would love to help get it 1606 02:35:16,319 --> 02:35:22,560 off the agenda. And uh there's other things we've been 1607 02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:26,560 in the community for the last week or so. You might have seen us at Grounded 1608 02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:31,200 or other places having lots of meetings and trying to understand what makes 1609 02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:38,080 Marshalltown tick and what can Marshall Town use as a partner to go into this 1610 02:35:35,359 --> 02:35:42,080 era should you choose to do so. We've heard about these training programs at 1611 02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:45,040 Iowa Valley Community College, including Marshalltown Community College, where we 1612 02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:50,399 might be able to create a dedicated career track much like Fiser, Lennox, 1613 02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:53,439 and the others do. That could be something that could provide jobs within 1614 02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:56,720 Marshalltown if you don't want to leave the county. Or if you want to go 1615 02:35:55,200 --> 02:36:01,520 somewhere else and work in a data center where this is one of the most in demand 1616 02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:07,439 jobs in the world with an incredibly small supply, 1617 02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:14,000 there's a Junior Achievement [snorts] Society. There's House of Compassion, 1618 02:36:10,479 --> 02:36:20,960 Martown Youth Foundation, Trails, Inc. County, Marshtown County Convers Convers 1619 02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:24,399 Conservation, and many others that we've been discussing with those in the 1620 02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:28,720 community. And as we spend more time the next several months with with all of 1621 02:36:26,560 --> 02:36:33,040 you, we'd like to understand what's important, how we can help, and how we 1622 02:36:30,640 --> 02:36:37,439 can be not just a neighbor and not just a developer, but a real partner and a 1623 02:36:35,359 --> 02:36:41,520 real member of the community to integrate ourselves much like the 1624 02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:47,280 pillars of this community have done, albeit in a smaller way up at first. But 1625 02:36:44,479 --> 02:36:53,640 we genuinely want to find a way to better the lives of those who help this 1626 02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:53,640 project come to reality. 1627 02:36:55,200 --> 02:37:01,359 We're making these commitments right now with no project. 1628 02:36:58,880 --> 02:37:04,560 We don't have land control. We can't secure power without it. 1629 02:37:03,359 --> 02:37:08,960 Although we've done substantial diligence on all of these fronts, 1630 02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:16,240 we're asking for an opportunity to go forth to advance our efforts to further 1631 02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:22,640 our diligence, advance the prospects of securing power, fiber, talent, and 1632 02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:26,960 everything else we've discussed today. So, we're coming out. Everyone in this 1633 02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:32,000 room and everyone watching now has more information than anyone else effectively 1634 02:37:29,359 --> 02:37:37,040 as much as me on this project. We're coming out and we're not asking 1635 02:37:34,479 --> 02:37:39,840 for any property tax abatements. We talked to you about our water 1636 02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:44,399 commitments to using closed loop systems which will be hopefully enforced through 1637 02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:48,319 the ordinance. It's a grid tide pro project where we're going to pay our own 1638 02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:52,560 way. We're not going to put anything we're not going to move forward anything 1639 02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:59,040 on the power front that could risk rates going up. And by the way, on that I 1640 02:37:56,240 --> 02:38:05,280 encourage everybody here to go home and Google the difference between MYSO, MISO 1641 02:38:02,800 --> 02:38:09,280 and PJM. Those are effectively the regional operators that handle your grid 1642 02:38:07,520 --> 02:38:15,040 versus those of 13 states on the Northeast and parts of the Midwest. 1643 02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:20,160 The way they buy power has made a massive difference in whose rates have 1644 02:38:18,160 --> 02:38:23,280 gone up as a result of the increasing demand. Not just because of data 1645 02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:27,920 centers, because electrification of our society and those who haven't. In fact, 1646 02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:32,080 parts of the Myso territory, which covers Minnesota, Iowa, and others have 1647 02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:36,319 seen some rates come down as a result of that demand. The way the power is 1648 02:38:34,880 --> 02:38:41,359 purchased, the way the power is used, and the way the power usage is secured 1649 02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:44,960 makes a massive difference in how it ultimately trickles down to the average 1650 02:38:43,359 --> 02:38:49,840 rateayer. Almost all of the stories you hear of 1651 02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:53,600 rates going up, go back and find those stories and look it up and almost always 1652 02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:57,840 you'll find that it's in PJM which does not serve this territory. 1653 02:38:56,720 --> 02:39:01,439 We're obviously going to adhere to the ordinance standards. We cannot pull 1654 02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:05,280 permits. We cannot get approval for a project without doing so. All we're 1655 02:39:03,600 --> 02:39:09,280 asking for today is the opportunity to be able to go to bat and adhere to 1656 02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:14,720 whatever standards you set when you do so. Again, we support the moratorum. We 1657 02:39:12,560 --> 02:39:19,680 think it's being done responsibly. We think it's proactive and we think it's 1658 02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:23,840 the right way forward for Marshalltown. We'll never ask you to sign an NDA and 1659 02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:27,680 we'll keep the public apprised effectively building a public like we've 1660 02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:31,520 already done to this point. So you can ask us questions. We can share data with 1661 02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:38,359 those who are putting together planning and zoning. We can effectively do this 1662 02:39:35,359 --> 02:39:38,359 together. 1663 02:39:39,760 --> 02:39:49,200 All we have put forth of you today is a request to approve our purchase contract 1664 02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:53,359 for the four acres comprising 21 acres. Does not affect the moratorum. 1665 02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:57,600 Does not affect our requirement to comply with the moratorum. Does not 1666 02:39:55,840 --> 02:40:02,319 affect our requirement to comply with zoning once it is put in place. If the 1667 02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:08,000 moratorum continues, we can't do anything. If the zoning ultimately uh 1668 02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:12,319 prohibits the project because of owner requirements, the project will not get 1669 02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:15,600 built. All we would like to do is spend our own 1670 02:40:13,760 --> 02:40:20,960 money at our own risk to advance the prospect as a project and put it out in 1671 02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:25,760 front of all of you for public comment display and effect and effectively 1672 02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:29,640 kind of co-building it so we can try to build a project that works for 1673 02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:29,640 everybody. 1674 02:40:30,640 --> 02:40:35,920 Being able to secure the contract on the land allows us to do everything else 1675 02:40:34,560 --> 02:40:41,520 that we haven't done yet. These things in combination cost substantial amounts 1676 02:40:39,920 --> 02:40:48,640 of money which we simply can't release on a project that we cannot control. 1677 02:40:45,439 --> 02:40:53,359 This project will not get built now in a month or even anytime this year. Our 1678 02:40:51,280 --> 02:41:00,600 prospects at best case scenario is a break ground in Q2 and hopes for end of 1679 02:40:56,479 --> 02:41:00,600 2028 in service. 1680 02:41:02,880 --> 02:41:08,560 Marshalltown has all the right ingredients to take advantage of the 1681 02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:13,600 fourth industrial revolution which is coming in the form of 1682 02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:17,600 digital infrastructure. It has power. It's getting a lot more of it. It's got 1683 02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:22,560 great fiber and most importantly, it's got incredible people. 1684 02:41:20,479 --> 02:41:25,920 Marshall Town has been the backbone of companies that build things for a long 1685 02:41:24,160 --> 02:41:32,319 time. We think it is poised if it is strategic 1686 02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:37,439 to become a pillar and eventually a juggernaut within the AI infrastructure 1687 02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:42,359 era which is only just beginning. But it should do it the way it sees 1688 02:41:39,359 --> 02:41:42,359 appropriate. 1689 02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:52,640 So, I'd like to make a few comments, 1690 02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:57,240 not specific to this project, but really just for all of you. 1691 02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:05,920 I know people aren't a big fan of these projects. I know 1692 02:42:04,560 --> 02:42:10,560 everyone's kind of tired of hearing of them. I know we have inflation and 1693 02:42:09,120 --> 02:42:14,880 everything costs more than it did 3 years ago. Everyone's working as hard as 1694 02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:21,120 they can with less room to breathe at the end of the month. And every headline 1695 02:42:17,600 --> 02:42:24,880 says AI is going to change the world and no one is going to ask your permission 1696 02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:29,120 for that to happen. So it starts to feel like the future 1697 02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:33,600 isn't a choice you get to make, but that it's something that happens to you. And 1698 02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:38,240 when something that big happens that fast and it's so far out of your 1699 02:42:35,439 --> 02:42:45,200 control, there's really only one lever left to pull and it's the word no. 1700 02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:49,600 It's not fear and it's not backwardness. When you can't tell who's telling the 1701 02:42:46,640 --> 02:42:52,880 truth, no is the only safe answer. And I get it. 1702 02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:57,520 There's plenty of towns who have been right to use it. And if everything I 1703 02:42:55,840 --> 02:43:03,359 knew about this industry was what I heard on the internet this summer, I'd 1704 02:43:00,240 --> 02:43:07,439 reach for the same lever. It can be frightening at times. 1705 02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:11,280 But you know your history far more than I do. And I really enjoyed learning 1706 02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:15,120 about it. And it tells a different story. 1707 02:43:13,040 --> 02:43:18,960 In 1880, William Fischer stood at the waterworks during a fire, holding his 1708 02:43:17,439 --> 02:43:23,840 city's water pressure steady with his own hands. Then he built a machine so no 1709 02:43:21,439 --> 02:43:28,960 one ever has to do that again. 10 years later, this town makes a trial 1710 02:43:25,680 --> 02:43:32,240 so good they ask when masons and archaeologists want a trial. They don't 1711 02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:35,840 ask for a trial, they ask for a Marshall town. 1712 02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:39,840 5 years after that, Dave Lennox builds a better furnace a few blocks from here. 1713 02:43:38,240 --> 02:43:44,880 So, three times over, the future didn't arrive here finished. Someone in this 1714 02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:49,040 town built it, and the world came asking for it by name. 1715 02:43:47,279 --> 02:43:54,640 The most recent chapter isn't history at all. 23 minutes of tornado came through 1716 02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:57,920 downtown in 2018 and this town chose to rebuild. 1717 02:43:56,399 --> 02:44:01,479 A lot of the people who did that are sitting in this room. 1718 02:44:01,520 --> 02:44:07,920 There's a fourth industrial revolution upon us. And this one it's concrete, 1719 02:44:05,359 --> 02:44:12,240 copper, and megawws. It's going to be built somewhere. The 1720 02:44:10,479 --> 02:44:17,040 very large campuses that are in the headlines are a real shape of this 1721 02:44:14,800 --> 02:44:20,720 revolution, but they're not the only shape. 1722 02:44:18,560 --> 02:44:25,200 The choice isn't a thousand acres or nothing at all. That's the part I don't 1723 02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:29,840 think anyone has been telling you because something quieter is emerging. 1724 02:44:27,279 --> 02:44:34,080 And tonight it's on your doorstep. American companies like manufacturers, 1725 02:44:31,600 --> 02:44:38,399 hospitals, insurance companies, banks, and others. They want their own data to 1726 02:44:36,479 --> 02:44:43,520 use AI on their own hardware in a building that they can drive to in a 1727 02:44:40,720 --> 02:44:49,200 town they can name. That work has to be built somewhere. And it needs three 1728 02:44:45,840 --> 02:44:53,439 things. Power, fiber, and people who can run complicated machinery. The third of 1729 02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:57,160 which Marshalltown has had for the last 140 years in spades. 1730 02:44:57,200 --> 02:45:03,760 We also have a 21 acres that has been graded and serviced after the storm for 1731 02:45:01,200 --> 02:45:08,640 exactly this purpose. So this is what tonight actually is. Nothing gets built 1732 02:45:06,160 --> 02:45:12,960 tonight, this month, or this year. Your moratorium stands and we support it and 1733 02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:18,560 we'll come through the front door like anybody else. Tonight is a vote to sell 1734 02:45:16,640 --> 02:45:23,359 21 acres you already set aside for industry. Tonight isn't the end of us 1735 02:45:20,960 --> 02:45:28,960 proving it's just the beginning. Months of open meetings will follow our plans 1736 02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:33,920 built alongside yours. And if it works, we'd like to be the 1737 02:45:31,359 --> 02:45:38,319 reason the next one comes here, too. The reason that kid graduating from 1738 02:45:35,439 --> 02:45:41,600 Marshalltown High can work on our generation's most critical 1739 02:45:39,840 --> 02:45:46,560 infrastructure without leaving the county to do it. 1740 02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:50,880 You can say no to this version of the future. You can say no to the ver to the 1741 02:45:48,960 --> 02:45:55,840 version of the future that you don't want to see, but still say yes to your 1742 02:45:53,520 --> 02:46:00,640 share of it. Those are not the same question. 1743 02:45:57,840 --> 02:46:06,800 The future is coming at all of us very fast. But there is another way to build 1744 02:46:03,279 --> 02:46:10,479 it. A smaller, more organic way. A way where the values stay closer to the 1745 02:46:08,319 --> 02:46:15,439 ground and more towns and more people get to win. Not just the same people 1746 02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:21,200 who've been willing all along. We believe in that version and we like to 1747 02:46:17,840 --> 02:46:26,720 help prove that to Marshall Town. Marshalltown made the pump governor. It 1748 02:46:23,680 --> 02:46:31,920 made the trow. It made the furnace. Every single time the world came here to 1749 02:46:29,279 --> 02:46:37,920 buy it. The next age will be built somewhere by somebody on somebody's 1750 02:46:34,399 --> 02:46:41,840 terms. We say let it be built here on your terms. 1751 02:46:39,920 --> 02:46:47,040 The town that makes things chooses what it makes next. And it would be an honor 1752 02:46:44,319 --> 02:46:50,439 for us to help you make it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Amir. 1753 02:46:50,480 --> 02:46:52,500 [applause] 1754 02:46:53,680 --> 02:47:01,439 » Okay, we can't have clapping. That's bad. 1755 02:46:59,359 --> 02:47:07,120 Um, air, >> I I have a question for you. When you're 1756 02:47:03,840 --> 02:47:10,640 talking 55 to 60 jobs, something in there. The average wage, what are you 1757 02:47:09,680 --> 02:47:15,439 talking? >> Uh, we estimate about $113,000 on 1758 02:47:13,439 --> 02:47:19,520 average. Some will be lower for like janitorial and security, but the highest 1759 02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:23,520 end will be much closer to 200,000 if that's for like a network engineer. 1760 02:47:21,600 --> 02:47:27,920 » Over $100,000. >> That's the average. The high end is 1761 02:47:25,359 --> 02:47:33,359 closer to the 170 to 200 range, >> right? So you could your kid might be 1762 02:47:30,479 --> 02:47:37,120 able to go through a college out here, get trained up and get hired there. 1763 02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:41,840 » In fact, we'll pay him to do it. It's these jobs are in such incredible 1764 02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:47,600 demand shortage or supply shortage rather that you can take the same 1765 02:47:44,960 --> 02:47:52,560 baseline vocational training you've gotten at construction, in a factory for 1766 02:47:50,640 --> 02:47:57,200 mechanical, electrical, plumbing. You can layer on a very specific training 1767 02:47:54,479 --> 02:48:02,560 regimen of if this then that, if this goes out or preventative maintenance and 1768 02:47:59,840 --> 02:48:07,359 service this new generation of specialty technology. And yeah, the pay is 1769 02:48:05,279 --> 02:48:11,840 fantastic. And the job training programs will be paid for by us, by the 1770 02:48:09,439 --> 02:48:16,800 hyperscalers, by others who would like to see these be local jobs. It's the 1771 02:48:15,120 --> 02:48:20,560 only way it makes sense. >> Okay. 1772 02:48:17,439 --> 02:48:25,600 » I know that uh I saw some figures. it wasn't on here tonight about the uh 1773 02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:31,760 taxes that you'll pay and the effect on the uh local schools and you had a 1774 02:48:29,760 --> 02:48:36,880 number of per student 1775 02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:41,840 it was uh sorry >> um about $250 per student per year. So 1776 02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:46,720 this project alone we anticipate providing $1.35 million a year to the 1777 02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:53,359 Marshalltown school district uh to schools. um that is an annual figure. 1778 02:48:50,160 --> 02:48:57,120 And so what that will help avoid is if the schools want to build a new 1779 02:48:54,800 --> 02:49:01,120 building, if they want to create a new program, they want to refurbish the 1780 02:48:59,040 --> 02:49:05,840 athletic programs, they're not going to have to come to all of you and raise 1781 02:49:03,920 --> 02:49:09,680 property taxes. You're going to have a new source of property tax from a 1782 02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:15,279 project like ours. >> Okay. Thank you. 1783 02:49:13,279 --> 02:49:18,240 You are. >> Yes. 1784 02:49:19,520 --> 02:49:26,800 There we go. Technology. Uh, can you give us some examples of 1785 02:49:25,279 --> 02:49:31,920 centers that you've already built and their success rate? 1786 02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:38,240 » Sure. So, you may be able to speak to this, but um worked on a project um in 1787 02:49:36,960 --> 02:49:44,399 northern Illinois in a city called Elgrove Village um that is a uh 270 1788 02:49:41,840 --> 02:49:48,880 megawatt project. Now, my background comes from the hypers scale world, which 1789 02:49:45,760 --> 02:49:53,120 is why I'm able to navigate kind of the same level of institutional quality for 1790 02:49:51,120 --> 02:49:56,560 these types of buildings at the smaller scale. These aren't Bitcoin. These 1791 02:49:54,640 --> 02:50:01,040 aren't little containerized things. You kind of saw what we're we're going 1792 02:49:57,840 --> 02:50:05,439 after. Um, that project is now up on buildings kind of two and three coming 1793 02:50:02,640 --> 02:50:10,319 out of the ground. And, uh, I spent a lot of time kind of getting the campus 1794 02:50:07,760 --> 02:50:14,319 laid out. And, um, for building one, which is, you can kind of Google it. 1795 02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:19,359 it's it's uh on the north side of town. So what it does is granted in the 1796 02:50:17,279 --> 02:50:25,040 earlier wave of data centers, a lot of these properties asked for abatements 1797 02:50:22,160 --> 02:50:32,880 and a lot of the kind of meccas of data centers which is like Northern Virginia, 1798 02:50:27,359 --> 02:50:36,880 um Chicago, Phoenix, Dallas, they uh kind of had that trade-off. But here, if 1799 02:50:35,279 --> 02:50:40,560 you're coming and saying, "Well, we don't want you here." This is actually 1800 02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:45,279 an amazing time to have a data center show up because 1801 02:50:43,200 --> 02:50:49,439 the industry has evolved and matured to where we're not using these harmful 1802 02:50:46,800 --> 02:50:56,160 evaporative technologies. So you have these basically quieter almost zero 1803 02:50:53,279 --> 02:51:00,640 water systems, but the demand supply is so out of whack that we're coming here 1804 02:50:58,399 --> 02:51:04,560 saying the rents basically have gone up and we can afford to ask for zero 1805 02:51:02,960 --> 02:51:09,920 property tax which is the right way to do it because otherwise we have to then 1806 02:51:06,880 --> 02:51:15,120 come and say now we want a tax break and so that is our kind of MMO is we only 1807 02:51:12,720 --> 02:51:18,960 try to find projects where that can be our baseline. Well, I have a lot of 1808 02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:25,920 questions, but some of them can't be answered tonight. Uh, but another one 1809 02:51:22,319 --> 02:51:29,760 is, uh, can you elaborate on give us some details on what happened in 1810 02:51:27,840 --> 02:51:35,120 Marshall Marshfield, uh, Missouri? >> Oh, yeah. I'd be happy to. So, I was 1811 02:51:32,960 --> 02:51:40,160 working on a project there specifically where we were looking to advance a 1812 02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:44,560 second project. We had it under basically LOI exclusivity and the seller 1813 02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:51,359 chose to close the land to somebody else. Now you see what we're doing here 1814 02:51:47,359 --> 02:51:54,720 today without even site control. We uh are basically putting our entire 1815 02:51:52,880 --> 02:51:59,439 project almost open source for everybody to see. So you can trust us as a partner 1816 02:51:57,439 --> 02:52:03,439 in your community. Now this is the same process we intended to pursue in 1817 02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:07,120 Marshfield previously and it's the same one we still intend to pursue. But 1818 02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:12,000 they're going through their own moratorium at the time and for good 1819 02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:19,279 reason. So the other party who ended up purchasing that land in place of us um 1820 02:52:15,200 --> 02:52:23,439 despite our legal contract uh just went ahead and graded the site. They didn't 1821 02:52:21,600 --> 02:52:28,080 ask for permits. They didn't do anything like this. They just rolled dozers and 1822 02:52:25,520 --> 02:52:32,960 graded the site. So and I've gone on record in saying this, that community 1823 02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:36,800 was wronged. They of course were upset. There's a big outcry. There's more 1824 02:52:34,880 --> 02:52:41,120 tournaments put in place and and for good reason. That kind of behavior is 1825 02:52:38,960 --> 02:52:46,560 what makes this industry look bad. And so we wanted to pause to let the cities 1826 02:52:44,720 --> 02:52:51,600 and counties out there work through their moratoriums, establish ordinances 1827 02:52:48,960 --> 02:52:56,319 that made sense. The project that we still site control out there for is a 1828 02:52:53,520 --> 02:53:01,439 heavy it's a intensive industrial type of zone project and we think it's going 1829 02:52:58,880 --> 02:53:06,399 to be um similar to this where it's it's a much smaller project. So, it's uh less 1830 02:53:04,080 --> 02:53:11,279 than half the power uh and therefore kind of size and and and um jobs and 1831 02:53:10,240 --> 02:53:14,640 everything else. So, it doesn't quite compare to this one. This is a much 1832 02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:20,640 larger opportunity for for Marshall Town. Um but that's the honest truth is 1833 02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:24,319 we didn't get a chance to do this and because of their behavior, the other 1834 02:53:22,479 --> 02:53:28,000 party, we didn't feel it was an appropriate time to do so. So, we're 1835 02:53:25,520 --> 02:53:34,080 waiting for the right moment. Uh why does your uh proposal statement say that 1836 02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:39,760 you don't have any NDAs or any closed door policies? 1837 02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:46,080 » Why does proposal when in fact that uh you and John Hall had sent out uh 1838 02:53:42,640 --> 02:53:52,000 private invitations for one-on-one Yeah. question and answering, which is in my 1839 02:53:49,040 --> 02:53:58,319 book totally wrong because it gives either side, me or you, the opportunity 1840 02:53:55,920 --> 02:54:03,520 to ask the question and then we get in public, we uh say, "No, we never said 1841 02:54:01,520 --> 02:54:07,520 that." So, how can we trust you now saying what you did with what's happened 1842 02:54:06,080 --> 02:54:13,040 here in the last few days? >> Well, those emails are obviously all 1843 02:54:10,880 --> 02:54:16,160 foyable, and I'm sure they already are. You can look at those emails when we put 1844 02:54:14,560 --> 02:54:20,640 on the record in the emails and every meeting that we requested was after we 1845 02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:26,000 already planned on being here and having this presentation. The information in 1846 02:54:22,960 --> 02:54:29,120 this presentation is much more robust than anything we're able to kind of 1847 02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:33,840 verbally explain to anyone who was willing to hear and not answer any 1848 02:54:30,479 --> 02:54:37,840 questions. The intent is to have those who are willing to be an audience for it 1849 02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:42,479 ask questions like you'd asked that you may not have time to to answer to ask 1850 02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:46,560 today. um and maybe questions you just don't want to ask today. Maybe it's a I 1851 02:54:44,479 --> 02:54:50,960 don't know what a server does, right? And so it's to give that opportunity. 1852 02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:54,800 It's not to cut a back room deal. It's not to do anything like that. It's just 1853 02:54:52,240 --> 02:55:00,720 to create an opportunity to be an audience knowing that we were already 1854 02:54:56,319 --> 02:55:08,279 coming out here to speak to the people. >> Mark, we need to let somebody else have 1855 02:55:03,520 --> 02:55:08,279 a question. Does anyone 1856 02:55:08,560 --> 02:55:14,479 question >> later? Yeah, 1857 02:55:11,359 --> 02:55:16,000 » I've just got two questions for air. So, good to see you again. 1858 02:55:15,279 --> 02:55:20,880 » You as well. >> Um, 1859 02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:22,720 so what's your background is my first question. 1860 02:55:21,359 --> 02:55:28,479 » I started in my career in commercial real estate finance. Um, I worked on 1861 02:55:26,640 --> 02:55:36,479 construction and bridge loans originally on REITs and private equity portfolio uh 1862 02:55:32,800 --> 02:55:42,319 deals. So, I worked on a 28 23.8 an $8 billion acquisition of the GE 1863 02:55:40,319 --> 02:55:48,800 Capital portfolio with Blackstone and Wells Fargo. Um, and then I transitioned 1864 02:55:45,359 --> 02:55:52,399 to infrastructure construction where I worked on bridges, highways, and roads 1865 02:55:51,040 --> 02:55:56,080 in California, which is where I'm originally from. and then transition to 1866 02:55:55,040 --> 02:56:00,800 real estate development doing residential and commercial development 1867 02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:04,160 and then transition then to data center development on the hypers scale side 1868 02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:09,279 largely because of the complexities of the intersection of power finance and um 1869 02:56:07,760 --> 02:56:16,080 development. And then my other question is uh while 1870 02:56:12,399 --> 02:56:18,560 you're here um have you found a residential site that you're going to 1871 02:56:17,439 --> 02:56:22,479 build your home on and you're going to move here because I'm obsessed. 1872 02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:25,120 » This speech you made it sounds like uh I'm obsessed. 1873 02:56:23,040 --> 02:56:28,080 » You're moving here and so I'd love to your family you have already 1874 02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:32,240 communicated with them that you're moving here. 1875 02:56:29,439 --> 02:56:36,880 » I'm canceling my flight back. >> It's uh No, truly I do I do this for a 1876 02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:40,880 living. I fly around all over the country. Um there's almost no data 1877 02:56:39,200 --> 02:56:45,600 centers being built on the coast because it's very hard to do business in those 1878 02:56:42,720 --> 02:56:53,600 states and there's not much power left. Um and so I go to I think I've been to 1879 02:56:49,439 --> 02:56:59,359 15 states. Uh I have this would be my first uh Iowa project though there's now 1880 02:56:56,000 --> 02:57:02,479 several that we're discussing. I did not ever imagine I would like fall in love 1881 02:57:00,880 --> 02:57:07,840 the states so quickly. It's very it's been very fun. I brought my dog out 1882 02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:10,720 here. We have like a like a 10acre ranch that we're staying on. It's just like 1883 02:57:09,439 --> 02:57:14,000 incredible and we're usually cooked up in an apartment. So, no, it's uh it's 1884 02:57:13,040 --> 02:57:17,479 been fantastic. The people are incredible, too. 1885 02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:24,560 » Anyone else have any questions or are we going back to Mark? 1886 02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:29,520 » I just have a general comment. >> Okay, go ahead. 1887 02:57:25,359 --> 02:57:33,120 » Yeah. So, air um it's nothing to against you or anything like that, but I was 1888 02:57:31,200 --> 02:57:35,920 against you presenting. Um, >> understood. 1889 02:57:33,840 --> 02:57:40,800 » Part of the reason was because you talk about a land contract and 1890 02:57:38,560 --> 02:57:45,520 » the city's position has been that we don't share that because it's 1891 02:57:43,680 --> 02:57:49,760 financially harmful for us, >> but yet you get to share your 1892 02:57:47,520 --> 02:57:54,399 perspective on it. And I see your presentation and there's some things 1893 02:57:52,080 --> 02:57:56,479 that I feel like is are inaccurate >> with the land contract, but I can't say 1894 02:57:56,160 --> 02:57:59,600 anything. >> I'm happy to answer those today, 1895 02:57:57,680 --> 02:58:02,800 » but I can't I legally can't challenge them. So that's 1896 02:58:01,120 --> 02:58:06,560 » Can I can I anticipate a few of them and discuss them? Go for it. Great. 1897 02:58:04,399 --> 02:58:12,640 » We have uh a very kind of like call it boilerplate 1898 02:58:08,160 --> 02:58:17,200 Iowa um like land contract. I I would imagine that you would within 1899 02:58:15,439 --> 02:58:23,279 that portion of it there's not much of controversy. We also tacked on an 1900 02:58:19,680 --> 02:58:27,920 addendum to it to specify unique kind of components of this project because well 1901 02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:30,960 we can't go ahead and just close because we have to advance our diligence and 1902 02:58:29,359 --> 02:58:36,800 then we have to wait for the mortorium to take its time do its thing and then 1903 02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:43,120 once it is lifted or not if it doesn't get lifted well then you know too bad so 1904 02:58:40,160 --> 02:58:48,160 sad right but if if it is and then an ordinance emerges out of it well we have 1905 02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:53,359 the opportunity to review that ordinance and decide at our discretion, well, can 1906 02:58:51,760 --> 02:58:57,920 we build a project we intend to build here? Is this investment worth it? Not 1907 02:58:55,359 --> 02:59:03,680 only the land purchase, but one thing I didn't cover here and I this project if 1908 02:59:00,720 --> 02:59:08,399 we are able to deliver is a $345 million investment. And so for us to go ahead 1909 02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:11,279 and and and follow through with that largely that is almost all like the 1910 02:59:09,840 --> 02:59:16,240 mechanical components and everything else. Uh we have to understand that it 1911 02:59:14,479 --> 02:59:20,399 makes sense. So we are able to look at the ordinance and decide either yes 1912 02:59:18,640 --> 02:59:25,120 we're going to go ahead and close or we're going to pull out the setbacks are 1913 02:59:22,479 --> 02:59:29,200 too ownorous we aren't able to adhere to the the the acoustics like let's say you 1914 02:59:27,279 --> 02:59:32,720 tighten the requirements much more than existing industrial that would hurt the 1915 02:59:31,279 --> 02:59:37,840 project outside of those two things I think we'll comply just fine but we have 1916 02:59:34,960 --> 02:59:42,479 to protect ourselves in that sense um the it also tolls the moratorum so if 1917 02:59:40,080 --> 02:59:45,520 you extend the moratorum another year from the several months that like the 1918 02:59:44,080 --> 02:59:49,040 few months that is intended Well, then the the contract tolls as 1919 02:59:47,200 --> 02:59:52,960 well for us to kind of be in the seat again working alongside you, sharing 1920 02:59:50,640 --> 02:59:58,720 data and being an opportunity to step into the role uh and close should it all 1921 02:59:56,160 --> 03:00:02,319 work out later. Uh those are kind of the main components. It gives us absolutely 1922 03:00:00,160 --> 03:00:06,399 no say so on the ordinance you write. It gives us no say so on the moratorium 1923 03:00:03,920 --> 03:00:10,319 which again we support. and it gives us no special treatment aside from anyone 1924 03:00:08,800 --> 03:00:13,760 else who might have gone and secured private land from adhering to the 1925 03:00:12,160 --> 03:00:17,760 moratorum whatever ordinance you guys come up with when that happens. The only 1926 03:00:16,319 --> 03:00:21,120 difference here is you own the land versus maybe someone in this room or 1927 03:00:19,439 --> 03:00:24,560 someone else in the county to where we can kind of sit by a little bit more 1928 03:00:22,479 --> 03:00:27,520 quietly instead. I think it's a it's a blessing and to be honest is maybe a 1929 03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:31,680 great way to go about these projects is just show our intent from day one and 1930 03:00:29,920 --> 03:00:34,880 decide if it makes sense or not. >> Sure. And I appreciate that. I feel like 1931 03:00:33,200 --> 03:00:38,080 you want to be transparent. So, you don't really have an issue discussing 1932 03:00:36,399 --> 03:00:40,000 the land contract in public, right? >> Not at all. I'm happy to do it in open 1933 03:00:39,600 --> 03:00:44,640 session. >> Okay. 1934 03:00:42,880 --> 03:00:49,200 » Okay. Anybody else have questions or are we back tomorrow? 1935 03:00:47,120 --> 03:00:51,680 » I think I'll let the public uh ask the questions. 1936 03:00:50,080 --> 03:00:57,439 » Okay. >> Is there a website 1937 03:00:53,920 --> 03:01:01,120 forgot to ask you a question? >> We're going to be launching website. 1938 03:00:58,880 --> 03:01:05,680 It'll probably be later this week and I'm happy to put something maybe out to 1939 03:01:03,520 --> 03:01:10,399 I don't know if someone has a Facebook account, but uh it it will be uh 1940 03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:15,600 marshalltown.com. Um but it is not live yet. Um but if you 1941 03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:19,920 have any specific questions you'd like addressed on that that weren't addressed 1942 03:01:17,279 --> 03:01:24,479 here, happy to take your questions and make sure that's incorporated in there. 1943 03:01:21,040 --> 03:01:26,800 It'll be like an FAQ. >> We need we need to have people come up 1944 03:01:26,240 --> 03:01:31,640 to the mic. >> Oh, I'm sorry. 1945 03:01:28,640 --> 03:01:31,640 Yeah. 1946 03:01:33,680 --> 03:01:40,160 » Say my name again. >> Sher Larson, Marshall County. Um, who 1947 03:01:39,680 --> 03:01:44,640 will be >> Please back. Speak into the mic. 1948 03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:48,800 » Who will be um buying the product that this data center is selling 1949 03:01:47,520 --> 03:01:53,439 » and how far away? >> Question is who's our end user? Right. 1950 03:01:51,040 --> 03:01:57,040 So, we do not have an end user for this this project and of course, how could we 1951 03:01:55,040 --> 03:02:00,720 don't even have site control? But ultimately our end users are not the big 1952 03:01:58,960 --> 03:02:04,319 hypers scale clouds. We are kind of too small for them. They only want a 1953 03:02:02,560 --> 03:02:11,680 gigawatt or something like that. And so we focus on if you will you heard the 1954 03:02:06,720 --> 03:02:18,720 mag 7. We focus on the S&P 493. Everyone else who's not a giant cloud. So think 1955 03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:25,600 um principal as insurance, think US bank, think uh JP Morgan Chase, think uh 1956 03:02:21,920 --> 03:02:28,960 Fizer, think any large company that is, you know, that has a lot of employees, 1957 03:02:27,439 --> 03:02:34,560 for example, they're now going to have a lot of compute needs, whether it's 1958 03:02:31,279 --> 03:02:39,600 storage, data, CPUs, and more recently GPUs. They don't want necessarily to 1959 03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:44,560 give all of their data to Enthropic and OpenAI. They don't necessarily want to 1960 03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:47,279 give all of their data to Amazon. They want to control their own destiny in a 1961 03:02:45,920 --> 03:02:52,399 lot of ways and they want to do it on Nvidia reference architecture systems 1962 03:02:49,279 --> 03:02:56,319 which is what we build on and they want to do it on their own hardware that they 1963 03:02:54,000 --> 03:02:59,840 own. So they're not being metered on like a pay as you go system. You might 1964 03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:05,120 have heard of paying for tokens on an API key like the cost. If you go to uh 1965 03:03:03,439 --> 03:03:09,439 swarmsystems.com, you'll kind of have a little like a 1966 03:03:07,680 --> 03:03:13,200 animated intro and it kind of shows this exponential chart going up of if you're 1967 03:03:11,680 --> 03:03:16,640 if you're paying as you go on those systems. And so really any of those 1968 03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:21,200 companies, they've kind of are knocking down the door to land there because they 1969 03:03:19,439 --> 03:03:25,200 they can go buy the chips from Nvidia, but they have nowhere to plug them in. 1970 03:03:22,880 --> 03:03:29,120 You need liquid cooling systems. You need redundant backup generation. You 1971 03:03:27,600 --> 03:03:33,439 need power that's on today at the density they're required to plug into 1972 03:03:31,359 --> 03:03:36,640 those systems. And the only place those exist is a data center. And all the data 1973 03:03:35,520 --> 03:03:40,880 centers for the most part a lot of them that are being built today are being 1974 03:03:37,760 --> 03:03:44,080 built by or for kind of the big hyperscalers which is like Google, 1975 03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:49,760 Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, Anthropic, OpenAI and Oracle and we service 1976 03:03:47,279 --> 03:03:55,359 everybody else. Um so some of those companies could be 1977 03:03:52,160 --> 03:04:00,319 Emerson Lennox absolutely m Maron company because there is a thing about 1978 03:03:57,760 --> 03:04:04,640 um even though it's fiber optics that even the robotics that these places are 1979 03:04:02,560 --> 03:04:12,240 using and the machine operations that they have they have to have quick 1980 03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:16,080 uh use of centers like you're talking >> in order for some of that to work 1981 03:04:13,920 --> 03:04:21,600 efficiently be able to go which then helps our companies grow. That's right. 1982 03:04:18,960 --> 03:04:24,399 And and also we'll be building in fiber redundancy systems. So like we have to 1983 03:04:23,200 --> 03:04:28,800 build into the site at two different locations and likely we'll need higher 1984 03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:33,200 speeds than what exists today. Those upgrades happen at our cost. What you 1985 03:04:31,520 --> 03:04:37,760 have when you if you kind of track it where you have the higher speed fibers 1986 03:04:35,120 --> 03:04:42,880 going from 100 gigs to 400 eventually like 1.6 terabytes. Those fiber 1987 03:04:40,960 --> 03:04:49,279 connections service the highest kind of technology type companies. You might 1988 03:04:44,960 --> 03:04:53,600 have a robotics company move here because they can get that ultra high 1989 03:04:51,279 --> 03:04:58,000 speed fiber even separate from our data center just because we overbuilt right 1990 03:04:56,240 --> 03:05:00,560 for redundancy for our our customers and for everybody else. Someone think they 1991 03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:04,399 might move into the Edgewood Industrial Park. 1992 03:05:01,439 --> 03:05:07,680 » I didn't realize that till today. Yeah. that, you know, if you're using a data 1993 03:05:05,760 --> 03:05:11,920 center in South Dakota, a lot of your stuff won't work. But if you're parked 1994 03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:16,479 right next to it, um all the newer advanced manufacturing really it really 1995 03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:20,080 upgrades what you can do. >> Yeah. This is why, you know, if you 1996 03:05:18,000 --> 03:05:24,640 build it in the middle of nowhere, it's uh a lot of a lot of [snorts] places a a 1997 03:05:23,359 --> 03:05:29,120 lot of companies are asking, well, what happens in 20 years when I need ultra 1998 03:05:27,120 --> 03:05:31,600 high lat, you know, low latency systems? And that's why they'll come somewhere 1999 03:05:30,160 --> 03:05:35,279 like Marshalltown. They'll put their servers in a data center in Marshalltown 2000 03:05:33,279 --> 03:05:41,600 because they'll know that building will have value, you know, call it 2001 03:05:39,040 --> 03:05:46,080 15 to 40 megawatts, plug into a, you know, rectangular building that can be 2002 03:05:44,240 --> 03:05:50,880 repurposed and that can really always be a data center for an enterprise. Whether 2003 03:05:48,880 --> 03:05:55,439 you're bearish on AI and you think the big data centers will the efficiencies 2004 03:05:53,520 --> 03:06:00,560 will not keep up with will outpace the demand then maybe the big ones will come 2005 03:05:57,920 --> 03:06:04,240 down to this space and then maybe the demand will keep going which is what I 2006 03:06:02,000 --> 03:06:08,080 believe then companies that either don't exist today or are very small today will 2007 03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:11,279 end up being potential tenants for this type of data center. 2008 03:06:09,520 --> 03:06:16,279 » Okay. Okay. We have another question or a 2009 03:06:13,279 --> 03:06:16,279 comment. 2010 03:06:16,880 --> 03:06:25,120 Tim Bradbury, 12 [clears throat] North 10th Avenue. Two questions. Um, will the 2011 03:06:23,840 --> 03:06:30,479 saying it's going to be close to the neighborhood and you're going to have 2012 03:06:26,720 --> 03:06:35,279 blowers or or fans, whatever. And we have good winters at times. Will that 2013 03:06:32,399 --> 03:06:40,080 affect the neighborhood with the winter conditions? Will it cause more snow 2014 03:06:37,359 --> 03:06:44,640 effects, more uh [clears throat] problems with winterizing and neighbors 2015 03:06:42,240 --> 03:06:48,000 getting more drenched with snow? And then the other question is I just got to 2016 03:06:46,720 --> 03:06:55,359 get it answered whether it's true or not. Was this area already known about 2017 03:06:52,640 --> 03:07:01,680 in advance of you wanting an area like that to build upon that that's why the 2018 03:06:57,520 --> 03:07:07,359 road and the area was built like it is that the money that was spent over there 2019 03:07:03,279 --> 03:07:12,240 was that with you guys in mind? Um the second question first, no. Uh I I 2020 03:07:10,560 --> 03:07:17,600 learned about this area in the last few months. So I I unless you guys can read 2021 03:07:14,880 --> 03:07:21,840 minds, I don't I don't think so. Um the to answer the first question, which is a 2022 03:07:19,040 --> 03:07:26,800 very good one, the Iowa weather is actually rather perfect for a data 2023 03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:31,920 center because it you don't get that Texas super humid 114 degree kind of 2024 03:07:29,680 --> 03:07:39,040 summer. And so we never actually have to crank on the uh com or am I wrong? Okay. 2025 03:07:36,880 --> 03:07:42,319 Oh, okay. Okay. >> Is it Is it as humid though? I guess the 2026 03:07:41,040 --> 03:07:45,040 corn. [laughter] >> We don't get it quite as long, but it 2027 03:07:44,399 --> 03:07:48,000 still comes. >> Fair enough. 2028 03:07:46,160 --> 03:07:49,680 » It's not as bad as Texas, though, right? >> It is. 2029 03:07:49,279 --> 03:07:51,600 » No, >> it's a dry. 2030 03:07:50,319 --> 03:07:57,040 » No, it's not as bad as Texas. >> Texas is brutal, guys. Anyways, well, 2031 03:07:54,640 --> 03:08:01,200 it's not it's it's considered in in for data center climates a little bit more 2032 03:07:58,479 --> 03:08:04,080 mild. And so, we don't need to use kind of the compressor systems that like when 2033 03:08:03,040 --> 03:08:08,640 you turn on your condenser in your backyard and you hear that boing when it 2034 03:08:06,319 --> 03:08:13,920 turns on, that's the compressor. And the actual fan is just it's just a fan. And 2035 03:08:11,279 --> 03:08:17,200 when when we use the quiet kits, they have these serrated blades that are kind 2036 03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:22,720 of like owl wings and they don't make the same kind of like humming noises. Um 2037 03:08:19,520 --> 03:08:27,359 and so we're able to use those um in in lie of those compressor systems because 2038 03:08:24,319 --> 03:08:31,439 of the relatively milder uh summers. Regarding the winter question, what all 2039 03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:38,000 that does is because the temperature is simply colder, we don't need to blow as 2040 03:08:34,479 --> 03:08:41,840 much air like blowing 20° air on a hot pipe versus blowing 95° air on a hot 2041 03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:45,840 pipe. You don't need to blow as much of it cuz just ambiently it's cooling. And 2042 03:08:43,760 --> 03:08:50,880 so our fans go from like call it 85% speed to like 25%. Cuz the pipe just 2043 03:08:48,880 --> 03:08:54,399 being exposed going outside the system then coming back in. It does a lot of 2044 03:08:52,240 --> 03:08:57,840 the work for us. And so the fans will just simply be quieter and they'll be 2045 03:08:56,720 --> 03:09:00,000 less active. They'll be using less energy. The system is just much more 2046 03:08:59,279 --> 03:09:02,399 efficient. >> Will it create a more snow effect for 2047 03:09:01,840 --> 03:09:07,840 that neighbor? >> So we will study all of that in in 2048 03:09:04,479 --> 03:09:11,520 what's called a CFD analysis. Um and it's kind of like a fluid dynamic system 2049 03:09:09,680 --> 03:09:18,479 that they use for air. And so we'll study that to see how our generators, 2050 03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:22,720 maybe I'll go back to the site. You'll see those kind of horizontal gray marks. 2051 03:09:20,319 --> 03:09:27,200 The gray, those are our generators. The the wind here, the prevailing wind is 2052 03:09:24,479 --> 03:09:31,040 largely from in this case the south and in some cases the north. But we need to 2053 03:09:29,439 --> 03:09:36,800 make sure it's not going to blow from from the generators to the fans. We'll 2054 03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:39,279 also study what the fans do relative to the environment. So all of that is 2055 03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:42,720 studied for both hot and cold conditions. and they'll be studied and 2056 03:09:40,479 --> 03:09:46,200 we're happy to um kind of open source it for everyone to review. 2057 03:09:53,040 --> 03:10:02,880 » Uh Aaron Carpenter, 82 North Fourth Street. I have several comments and many 2058 03:09:58,720 --> 03:10:08,000 questions. Um is there a time dang it? Okay, hold on. So, um you said that you 2059 03:10:06,319 --> 03:10:13,520 support the moratorum. That sounds like a paradox when you were asking to 2060 03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:18,399 squeeze in here under the line because uh people if you don't know the uh the 2061 03:10:16,640 --> 03:10:22,479 waving of the third reading that they did like an hour ago that doesn't go 2062 03:10:20,640 --> 03:10:28,000 into effect until it's printed in the paper. It's not in effect yet and it 2063 03:10:26,399 --> 03:10:32,880 will not be in effect until it is in the Times record or Times Republican. 2064 03:10:30,000 --> 03:10:36,240 » Can I address this one really quick? Uh we're happy to receive a counter from 2065 03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:39,680 the city saying that that we cannot close on the property until the 2066 03:10:38,080 --> 03:10:43,120 moratorum is in effect which obviously we won't do because then we can't build 2067 03:10:41,359 --> 03:10:46,960 what we intend but we're happy to take that counter. We're not we're not trying 2068 03:10:44,319 --> 03:10:52,560 to get in under any sort of line. >> Okay. If that is the case then I wonder 2069 03:10:49,439 --> 03:10:57,800 why you're here tonight and not in two months when the moratorum is over. 2070 03:10:54,800 --> 03:10:57,800 question. 2071 03:10:58,640 --> 03:11:06,000 » We can't advance the project any further without site control. Um, the utility 2072 03:11:03,920 --> 03:11:09,520 will not advance effectively our engineering studies. We can't advance 2073 03:11:07,840 --> 03:11:14,319 our civil studies. I kind of brought up a list of everything we'd like to do 2074 03:11:12,000 --> 03:11:18,720 that costs quite literally hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. And it 2075 03:11:16,319 --> 03:11:21,600 would be irresponsible for us to do so um without the prospect of being able to 2076 03:11:20,160 --> 03:11:24,600 pursue the project should things work out. 2077 03:11:26,479 --> 03:11:36,640 That makes sense because uh uh Lane, I think you brought up uh like a month ago 2078 03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:42,240 uh if uh an entity has vested rights in property, uh they have all sorts of 2079 03:11:39,279 --> 03:11:50,000 legal protections um and if the community or the council tried to stop 2080 03:11:46,080 --> 03:12:02,479 someone from uh [gasps] sorry um if if if the committees tried 2081 03:11:54,720 --> 03:12:06,000 to uh tell a developer to not um 2082 03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:09,760 » you could be grandfathered in. >> You would be you 2083 03:12:08,080 --> 03:12:14,240 would be grandfathered in with vested rights. Um, and even if planning and 2084 03:12:12,319 --> 03:12:21,120 zoning or the board of adjustment did not want that project here, they could 2085 03:12:17,040 --> 03:12:28,080 not legally, I believe, uh, say that that can or cannot happen. If it meets 2086 03:12:24,720 --> 03:12:32,160 the city code under the law, they have to allow it to happen. Uh, that was the 2087 03:12:30,399 --> 03:12:36,960 case in Cedar Falls. >> Steve, correct me if I'm wrong. Um, they 2088 03:12:34,479 --> 03:12:40,960 are not asking for any of that. They're not trying to get in under the limit so 2089 03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:42,560 they could use the old We're happy to >> not yet. 2090 03:12:42,160 --> 03:12:46,240 » Well, >> there's nothing about this presentation 2091 03:12:44,000 --> 03:12:54,160 that's legally binding. It's not in city code. It's PowerPoint promises. 2092 03:12:49,840 --> 03:12:57,520 » It doesn't mean anything legally. >> We're we're happy to be counter to where 2093 03:12:55,840 --> 03:13:01,279 we can't close until the moratorium is is in effect and in which case we can't 2094 03:12:59,920 --> 03:13:06,319 pull a permit for a data center because a moratorum is in place. City simply 2095 03:13:03,760 --> 03:13:09,920 won't give us a permit for it and without a permit we can't build and we 2096 03:13:08,399 --> 03:13:16,720 therefore can't vest right. So, we're happy to to legally on a contract kind 2097 03:13:13,680 --> 03:13:19,680 of tie that together. So, that's that's our promise. 2098 03:13:17,760 --> 03:13:24,160 » I'll I'll just chime in briefly just on the concept of vested rights where where 2099 03:13:22,080 --> 03:13:30,560 I've seen this uh in another industry that's come to to Iowa pretty heavily is 2100 03:13:26,640 --> 03:13:34,080 uh wind turbines. Uh where and where vested rights really come into effect is 2101 03:13:32,640 --> 03:13:38,239 where you have the governmental approval. Uh, and where I've seen it, 2102 03:13:36,319 --> 03:13:42,479 you know, a a government approves a project for a bunch of wind turbines. A 2103 03:13:40,000 --> 03:13:47,520 company goes out and spends hundreds of millions of dollars to get those in 2104 03:13:44,479 --> 03:13:52,399 production. Production starts and then a new council comes in and they're like, 2105 03:13:48,960 --> 03:13:57,120 "No, we're going to kill this." Well, that's where the vested rights really 2106 03:13:54,080 --> 03:14:03,359 come in. What's what what's being proposed here is basically 2107 03:14:00,080 --> 03:14:08,479 a a purchase with a lot of contingencies. 2108 03:14:05,120 --> 03:14:13,840 um porno voter you can't we can't talk about that can we the purchase order or 2109 03:14:11,920 --> 03:14:18,000 the purchase agreement >> the public no we cannot 2110 03:14:15,680 --> 03:14:19,840 » I I I don't think the fact that he he's stated already 2111 03:14:19,359 --> 03:14:25,600 » okay >> that it's would be contingent upon 2112 03:14:22,000 --> 03:14:28,800 approval of regulations that work for them 2113 03:14:27,040 --> 03:14:34,160 » so I'm not stating anything he hasn't >> yeah that that we can't be compelled to 2114 03:14:31,439 --> 03:14:39,920 close if you pass an ordinance that requires like 20 dB which is like 2115 03:14:37,920 --> 03:14:42,800 quieter than a cricket, right? Like we have to be able to review what gets 2116 03:14:41,279 --> 03:14:47,439 passed and see if a project could be developed. That's that's all it is is 2117 03:14:44,960 --> 03:14:52,640 that we we have a right to look at what you what you do and then decide for only 2118 03:14:50,080 --> 03:14:56,479 for us. Uh do we still want to go forward this investment or or not? But 2119 03:14:54,800 --> 03:15:01,680 if if it's anything like the general industrial, we already have a project 2120 03:14:58,160 --> 03:15:06,399 that works for it. And basically, you know, and 2121 03:15:04,080 --> 03:15:11,520 without vested rights, and I've I've never met Amir before. I I have no dog 2122 03:15:08,560 --> 03:15:16,880 in this fight. um without any type of vested rights and with the kind of 2123 03:15:14,239 --> 03:15:20,399 contingencies that he's explained, uh there's still a pretty big risk that 2124 03:15:18,560 --> 03:15:25,439 they spend all this money and then the city just listening to you going through 2125 03:15:23,200 --> 03:15:30,800 this whole process u adopts very stringent uh regulations 2126 03:15:29,200 --> 03:15:34,960 that they might not be able to comply with and they would just have to walk. 2127 03:15:32,160 --> 03:15:41,920 » Yeah, we lose a lot of money. >> I think we need to wrap up things. 2128 03:15:39,760 --> 03:15:46,960 Uh, Mr. City Attorney, I'm sorry I don't know your name. 2129 03:15:43,840 --> 03:15:50,359 » Steve, um, are you referring to Gisler v Cedar Falls 2130 03:15:50,399 --> 03:15:58,399 uh, in in Cedar Falls several years ago, maybe 20 years ago now, um, a developer 2131 03:15:56,080 --> 03:16:05,120 wanted to put in a small multif family housing unit um, that complied with city 2132 03:16:01,200 --> 03:16:12,160 code. city changed their code um after they had those plans and then um when 2133 03:16:09,359 --> 03:16:17,760 the city said they could no longer build then the developers sued the city. 2134 03:16:16,399 --> 03:16:23,439 » I wasn't referring to that in particular. I'm aware of several uh I 2135 03:16:20,560 --> 03:16:28,800 don't want to state locations of several uh wind turbine projects where 2136 03:16:27,200 --> 03:16:34,239 governments have gotten themselves in trouble by preliminarily approving it. 2137 03:16:31,600 --> 03:16:38,080 Uh the developer goes out, spends significant amount of money in reliance 2138 03:16:36,000 --> 03:16:42,880 upon those approvals and then they try to retract the approval. That's where 2139 03:16:39,680 --> 03:16:47,200 vested rights will will get governments in trouble and potentially large 2140 03:16:44,800 --> 03:16:52,560 settlements. In this case, we'd be selling a property for a data center. 2141 03:16:51,751 --> 03:16:59,680 [laughter] >> If if we later say that we that code, 2142 03:16:56,640 --> 03:17:05,840 » it won't be sold until the planning and zoning is done 2143 03:17:03,760 --> 03:17:09,359 is the way I understand it because of the contingency. So, he won't own it, 2144 03:17:08,720 --> 03:17:12,479 » right? >> Okay. 2145 03:17:09,760 --> 03:17:17,040 » Until the planning and zoning is done. and then he looks at the planning and 2146 03:17:14,399 --> 03:17:20,960 zoning and says, "Okay, we can comply with this or no, we can't comply with 2147 03:17:20,000 --> 03:17:25,760 this." >> Okay. Um, in that case, I would like to 2148 03:17:23,920 --> 03:17:29,600 urge council to not go into close session later if there is not a real 2149 03:17:27,760 --> 03:17:34,239 estate deal to be made. Thank you. >> Thank you. Let's take one or two more 2150 03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:39,279 questions, then we do have more on the agenda. So, 2151 03:17:35,680 --> 03:17:44,560 » hi Lee B, Marshalltown, Iowa. Um, I'm going to step forward and say, okay, 2152 03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:48,800 let's say hypothetically speaking, land contract goes through. My question, I 2153 03:17:46,640 --> 03:17:54,239 have three questions. The first one is, who are your investors? $345 million, at 2154 03:17:51,520 --> 03:17:58,960 least in my neck of the woods, is a lot of money. Okay. Who are your investors? 2155 03:17:57,120 --> 03:18:05,239 Are we talking local investors? Are we talking overseas? I mean, specific 2156 03:18:01,439 --> 03:18:05,239 names. Can you give those 2157 03:18:05,600 --> 03:18:12,560 » without So the best place I'd point you to is so we build an innovative 2158 03:18:10,160 --> 03:18:18,239 reference architecture. Uh Jen Sen Huang, the CEO invid recently on CNBC 2159 03:18:15,040 --> 03:18:23,120 with six CEOs of several large investment banks and private equity 2160 03:18:20,000 --> 03:18:26,560 firms that effectively underwrite to leases on the Nvidia architecture 2161 03:18:24,960 --> 03:18:31,279 because that's an investable asset class. And so you can kind of look up 2162 03:18:29,760 --> 03:18:35,279 the largest infrastructure and data center investors kind of in the country 2163 03:18:32,720 --> 03:18:38,960 and it's kind of the largest private equity firms who back it on a project 2164 03:18:36,880 --> 03:18:44,880 finance level. So it's tied to the customer's credit because we underwrite 2165 03:18:42,080 --> 03:18:50,399 to investment grade and highquality credit firms like these large 2166 03:18:46,720 --> 03:18:54,800 enterprises. their credit is signed through between anywhere between like a 2167 03:18:52,080 --> 03:18:59,439 7 to 15 year lease and that underwrites the the financing for the asset. Also, 2168 03:18:57,600 --> 03:19:04,399 that allows revenue to be effectively guaranteed by someone who's a real 2169 03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:09,279 company and not uh like Bitcoin for many many years and therefore you can rest 2170 03:19:06,399 --> 03:19:12,239 assured that once a project is built for quite a long time, there's going to be 2171 03:19:10,640 --> 03:19:16,800 revenue coming in guaranteed because of that that credit is on the hook. 2172 03:19:14,720 --> 03:19:21,600 » Okay. Speaking of speaking of revenue, you taught your end users, etc. What 2173 03:19:19,359 --> 03:19:26,960 would you anticipate on the annual net income for a data center here in 2174 03:19:24,080 --> 03:19:30,960 Marshalltown? What would you anticipate? >> I would have to kind of go back and and 2175 03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:35,760 do some additional analysis on on the rents and see if that's something we can 2176 03:19:33,359 --> 03:19:40,960 uh follow up on maybe on the website. >> Okay. Um let's see. Um if a land 2177 03:19:39,200 --> 03:19:45,200 purchase were approved and a center was built, what are your future plans? Would 2178 03:19:43,279 --> 03:19:50,319 it be selling to another company? Would you want to go further east on that 2179 03:19:47,120 --> 03:19:55,520 land? Um, just trying to see what would you anticipate a future looking like say 2180 03:19:53,279 --> 03:19:58,720 15 20 years down the road. We don't need another hospital. So, of course, 2181 03:19:57,439 --> 03:20:03,040 decommissioning would have to be in there, but we're I'm just curious as to 2182 03:20:01,040 --> 03:20:06,720 what are what's your vision? >> Sure. 2183 03:20:04,720 --> 03:20:11,920 » Currently, it's the one building on the one lot. uh we would be basically uh 2184 03:20:10,640 --> 03:20:15,439 have to come up with a new power solution to do anything beyond that. So 2185 03:20:13,920 --> 03:20:19,680 we're effectively capped by the power because again we focus on these existing 2186 03:20:17,520 --> 03:20:23,600 infrastructure components. Any new project would basically require new high 2187 03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:27,120 voltage to be brought in and those are kind of more of like the sprawling 2188 03:20:24,960 --> 03:20:29,760 campus type of projects which doesn't quite fit. Huh. 2189 03:20:28,479 --> 03:20:33,439 » More of your hypers. >> Yes. Exactly. And so um there may be 2190 03:20:32,160 --> 03:20:38,399 other opportunities for some smaller ones but uh as far as you you kind of 2191 03:20:35,279 --> 03:20:42,160 mentioned decommissioning. So this is where again I think it'd be helpful for 2192 03:20:39,920 --> 03:20:45,120 us to be working alongside in parallel planning and zoning. The current 2193 03:20:43,760 --> 03:20:49,120 ordinance reads for kind of larger buildings, a lot of deviations and 2194 03:20:47,359 --> 03:20:53,448 setbacks and things that really read to more of a retail center. But if you 2195 03:20:51,040 --> 03:20:57,120 build a very bespoke like kind [clears throat] of jogging data center 2196 03:20:55,600 --> 03:21:00,080 now you're actually reducing the like kind of the alternative uses because if 2197 03:20:58,960 --> 03:21:03,680 you have a rectangular building with power hooked up to it, that can be heavy 2198 03:21:02,000 --> 03:21:09,359 manufacturing. That could be something else later if you're if you're kind of 2199 03:21:06,319 --> 03:21:13,120 bearish on AI. But if you look at like historically built data centers, the 2200 03:21:11,359 --> 03:21:16,960 vacancy rate in data centers across the US is around 1%. And it's because 2201 03:21:15,359 --> 03:21:21,439 there's just so much demand compared to supply that it even makes sense to go 2202 03:21:19,040 --> 03:21:25,600 buy older data centers now and take rip out all the old gear and put in all the 2203 03:21:22,960 --> 03:21:29,040 new gear because compared to China, the US is very power constrained. And so we 2204 03:21:27,920 --> 03:21:32,720 have to get the most out of our megawatts with the latest chips. And so 2205 03:21:31,200 --> 03:21:36,800 unless you think the internet's going to go away, you know, even if you even if 2206 03:21:34,800 --> 03:21:41,920 you take AI out of the equation, if you look at the growth of just cloud and 2207 03:21:39,200 --> 03:21:49,680 data centers strictly due to internet use, it's it's truly exponential. In the 2208 03:21:44,640 --> 03:21:57,600 last exclusive of AI between 20, I think 2 and 20 or sorry 2020 and 2022, 2209 03:21:55,520 --> 03:22:04,239 I believe somewhere in the two-year range. I think like 90% of the world's 2210 03:22:00,160 --> 03:22:08,560 data was like in the year 2022 was created in the last two years. So it's 2211 03:22:06,160 --> 03:22:11,439 truly an exponential growth that I think if you believe the internet will 2212 03:22:09,840 --> 03:22:15,040 continue, there's always going to be a use for it because the hardest thing to 2213 03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:18,160 bring is the power. >> Okay, Lee. 2214 03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:22,880 » No, this is this super simple. Oh, I know. Thank you. Simple. Can you provide 2215 03:22:20,479 --> 03:22:28,000 the updated um I guess your presentation? Can you 2216 03:22:26,399 --> 03:22:30,800 give that to the city so we can have that put out on the city? That's all I 2217 03:22:29,760 --> 03:22:32,560 wanted to know as an updated presentation. 2218 03:22:32,160 --> 03:22:34,960 » Yes. >> Thank you. 2219 03:22:34,000 --> 03:22:37,279 » Okay. >> I just have one. 2220 03:22:36,160 --> 03:22:43,840 » Okay. One question. >> Um Sarah Neurroth, 20 East State Street. 2221 03:22:40,720 --> 03:22:48,239 So I just did like a little bit of uh like research just when you were talking 2222 03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:55,840 and stuff. And so it's kind of going back to what Councilman Mitchell asked. 2223 03:22:50,880 --> 03:23:00,160 So, does your company actually have any working 2224 03:22:58,319 --> 03:23:05,359 like do they have any that are built right now? From what I came up with that 2225 03:23:02,880 --> 03:23:10,560 they did not. So, this is basically theoretical. Is that correct? 2226 03:23:08,800 --> 03:23:15,120 » Um, it's not theoretical. We've uh our our 2227 03:23:12,640 --> 03:23:18,479 team has built about 3 gawatt of data center projects and power 2228 03:23:16,239 --> 03:23:21,279 infrastructure. Swarm is a relatively newer company compared to a lot of the 2229 03:23:19,920 --> 03:23:25,200 larger hypers scale. So none are operating today. There's a few in 2230 03:23:23,359 --> 03:23:31,920 various levels of pre-construction and pre-development across the country. 2231 03:23:28,160 --> 03:23:36,160 » Okay. So I guess I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from then if you 2232 03:23:33,520 --> 03:23:39,920 don't actually have uh >> well 2233 03:23:37,840 --> 03:23:45,840 » it's uh it's data centers are not new to us. small ones are um the projects that 2234 03:23:43,600 --> 03:23:50,399 I've personally worked on is a 270 megawatt project in Illinois, a 600 2235 03:23:48,720 --> 03:23:54,880 megawatt going a gigawatt project in Texas and a 370 megawatt project in 2236 03:23:52,560 --> 03:23:59,120 Phoenix as well as a couple smaller ones uh in various parts of the coast 2237 03:23:56,239 --> 03:24:03,040 including California. So we've done a lot of data center projects, but this 2238 03:24:00,800 --> 03:24:07,840 approach and doing these smaller ones focused on these specifically kind of 2239 03:24:05,439 --> 03:24:15,680 like highdensity zero water like enterprise solutions is 2240 03:24:11,279 --> 03:24:18,720 is what we left to go do. And and uh it's a relatively newer phenomenon 2241 03:24:17,359 --> 03:24:22,239 because everyone was pretty happy with the cloud until their bills started 2242 03:24:20,960 --> 03:24:28,000 catching on fire the last couple of years. But we have all the connections 2243 03:24:24,319 --> 03:24:31,359 to all the contractors, operators, co-developers, investors and financeers. 2244 03:24:30,319 --> 03:24:36,399 We ultimately are real estate developers. And so the operations is 2245 03:24:33,920 --> 03:24:41,200 kind of its own layer within that. The commissioning of the actual components 2246 03:24:38,399 --> 03:24:44,720 and and everything else is different a different group. And so we have 2247 03:24:42,880 --> 03:24:51,520 contractors, vendors, and everyone kind of down the chain. 2248 03:24:47,920 --> 03:24:54,319 » Okay. I think we probably discussed this. 2249 03:24:52,800 --> 03:25:01,200 Do you have a short question? >> I do. Maggie Valentine, [clears throat] 2250 03:24:56,239 --> 03:25:07,040 2345, Whispering Oaks Road. Um, just your proposal sounds as good as we could 2251 03:25:04,479 --> 03:25:09,840 hope for, I think, if we believe everything that's been said. 2252 03:25:08,319 --> 03:25:16,640 » Let us prove it. [clears throat] >> Well, I think the best way to prove it 2253 03:25:12,399 --> 03:25:20,080 would be to stop until the moratorum is finished and we have our regulations in 2254 03:25:18,399 --> 03:25:24,880 place. I understand wanting to move forward with the due diligence. It's 2255 03:25:23,120 --> 03:25:31,120 perfectly reasonable. However, I feel like part of supporting the moratorum 2256 03:25:28,560 --> 03:25:37,439 is adhering to not bringing a proposal to the council. I mean, the tone of this 2257 03:25:33,760 --> 03:25:43,520 the everyone is so upset. And so, I just think if you want to prove it, start 2258 03:25:40,479 --> 03:25:49,120 right now and maybe we'll get the information we need to believe it and to 2259 03:25:46,399 --> 03:25:53,520 welcome you. if we're given the opportunity to do that under the 2260 03:25:50,560 --> 03:25:56,479 conditions that we all believed we were going to have moving forward. So, thank 2261 03:25:55,359 --> 03:26:02,720 you. >> I think I think just to to to answer 2262 03:25:59,200 --> 03:26:07,200 that if the if the city responds to our our offer with a counter that says we'll 2263 03:26:05,359 --> 03:26:13,600 accept your offer, but you simply cannot close until we a enter the moratorum and 2264 03:26:10,239 --> 03:26:17,680 then b choose to lift it and only then legally can we close on your pro on this 2265 03:26:15,760 --> 03:26:22,160 transaction. We're happy to accept that and that will like legally bind us to 2266 03:26:19,680 --> 03:26:26,640 being solely at risk on due diligence and being un legally unable to close 2267 03:26:24,960 --> 03:26:30,880 prior to that. We're happy to to proceed that way and all it lets us do is 2268 03:26:28,640 --> 03:26:36,160 proceed cuz otherwise we're waiting several months and and 2269 03:26:33,359 --> 03:26:39,359 just frankly we have to identify where to pour our our time and resources and 2270 03:26:38,080 --> 03:26:43,120 we think this is a fantastic opportunity. We'd love to to make 2271 03:26:41,520 --> 03:26:48,960 Marshalltown home and to drive this forward. And again, in support of the 2272 03:26:45,760 --> 03:26:53,359 mortorium, we're happy to to le like this is as binding as it can be is a 2273 03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:56,160 contract with the city that we cannot close until the moratorium is entered 2274 03:26:55,040 --> 03:27:00,640 and then exited. >> I think the problem is that we don't 2275 03:26:57,520 --> 03:27:04,880 want there to be a contract at all until we get to the end of our process. And if 2276 03:27:02,560 --> 03:27:07,760 Marshall Town is so fabulous, it's worth waiting until November in my opinion. 2277 03:27:07,040 --> 03:27:12,160 » I agree. >> I agree. 2278 03:27:08,960 --> 03:27:16,560 » Okay. I I think that we're done taking questions and comments. Uh we've had 2279 03:27:15,120 --> 03:27:23,200 this is a presentation. >> Mine's not long. I I April long 911 May. 2280 03:27:21,279 --> 03:27:29,439 I would just urge everyone on the city council and everyone listening to check 2281 03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:34,319 out the Marshfield, Missouri newspaper and see what they have had to say about 2282 03:27:31,600 --> 03:27:40,160 their experiences um with this particular company and data center. A 2283 03:27:37,520 --> 03:27:45,680 quote from their newspaper, "Staffing is limited and the facility is largely 2284 03:27:42,560 --> 03:27:51,120 automated with on-site operation teams performing performing 2285 03:27:47,920 --> 03:27:57,279 periodic preventative maintenance. Uh 60,000 square foot building subject to 2286 03:27:53,840 --> 03:28:03,920 change during design and uh estimated at 15 employees. It's 2287 03:28:01,920 --> 03:28:07,680 » peak shift that is in the quote there, >> right? But 15 employees that's 2288 03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:12,960 » that's so it's three shifts and that's about half if not smaller than this 2289 03:28:09,680 --> 03:28:16,800 project. So 15 * 3 is like 45 and that's like half the size of this project. 2290 03:28:15,439 --> 03:28:22,000 » I don't think we're going to get the unemployees that they're talking but 2291 03:28:18,720 --> 03:28:26,000 please check out their previous experience in the Marshfield Missouri. 2292 03:28:25,200 --> 03:28:31,279 Thank you. >> Okay. 2293 03:28:27,520 --> 03:28:36,560 I have a quick question for you. Um, 2294 03:28:33,760 --> 03:28:42,720 » since Amir has said that he's okay with everything being open, yeah, 2295 03:28:39,920 --> 03:28:48,479 is the information that this council has confidentially, can can I disclose any 2296 03:28:46,000 --> 03:28:55,319 of it right now to counter something that was asked and said, 2297 03:28:50,720 --> 03:28:55,319 » Steve, I'll leave that up to you. 2298 03:29:03,680 --> 03:29:11,000 I can't read your mind. So I don't dangerous 2299 03:29:13,439 --> 03:29:17,160 » whisper in his ear. 2300 03:29:18,960 --> 03:29:23,239 » Either I can or I can't, I guess. 2301 03:29:28,239 --> 03:29:33,120 the chips. >> So, you're saying I'm out there on my 2302 03:29:31,200 --> 03:29:38,600 own? Get I get my >> I'm going to get my hands slapped again 2303 03:29:34,560 --> 03:29:38,600 if I get out of line here. 2304 03:29:39,120 --> 03:29:49,279 » I'm going to tell the public. You guys keep asking um why you're asking a very 2305 03:29:45,600 --> 03:29:53,120 valid question. Why can't this individual wait till the moratorum 2306 03:29:51,520 --> 03:30:00,239 is over? um be three months be September, 2307 03:29:55,520 --> 03:30:06,160 October, November on a two-year build. >> It's already the end of September. 2308 03:30:03,600 --> 03:30:10,000 » It's the end of August. >> So, I guess what I'm going to say is 2309 03:30:07,840 --> 03:30:11,680 since the mayor has said he's okay with everything being out in the open, 2310 03:30:11,200 --> 03:30:14,880 correct? >> Sure. 2311 03:30:12,880 --> 03:30:19,840 » And I'm sure I'm going to get in trouble for this. 2312 03:30:17,200 --> 03:30:26,000 Amir made an offer to buy land from the city. That's been leaked. Everybody 2313 03:30:22,560 --> 03:30:31,439 knows that. Okay. Obviously, we're here today because the 2314 03:30:28,479 --> 03:30:39,439 city didn't accept that offer. The city made a counter offer 2315 03:30:35,200 --> 03:30:46,560 that pushed the date back beyond the moratorum. 2316 03:30:42,160 --> 03:30:51,359 So you guys are exactly right that we're willing to sell the land. We're just 2317 03:30:49,359 --> 03:31:00,239 wanting to wait till the moratorium's over and we're back here tonight because 2318 03:30:55,920 --> 03:31:02,640 air did not agree to our counter offer. >> He made a counter offer, Gary. 2319 03:31:02,160 --> 03:31:05,520 » Huh? >> He made a counter offer. 2320 03:31:03,920 --> 03:31:08,479 » He made a counter offer that brought the date forward 2321 03:31:06,800 --> 03:31:11,279 » right from the end of the mortorium. And we're not looking to close before. I 2322 03:31:10,080 --> 03:31:17,359 understand that. I get that. >> But so I guess if we if we proceed and 2323 03:31:13,840 --> 03:31:21,120 we wait until December, what do what we have absolutely zero 2324 03:31:19,840 --> 03:31:26,399 assurance that we're going to be the ones developing on this land versus 2325 03:31:22,720 --> 03:31:29,279 somebody else. So sure, we could sit around and wait, but we're not going to 2326 03:31:27,760 --> 03:31:32,640 be able to advance a project, spend dollars, and 2327 03:31:30,080 --> 03:31:38,160 » So you're saying trust you, but you don't trust us that we have an offer. We 2328 03:31:35,680 --> 03:31:43,120 have an interested party that wants that land. You're saying you don't trust the 2329 03:31:40,160 --> 03:31:47,040 seven of us that we would sell that land out from under an interested party. 2330 03:31:45,680 --> 03:31:50,800 » No, that's not what I'm saying. >> That's exactly what you're saying, Amir. 2331 03:31:48,800 --> 03:31:53,600 It's exactly what you're saying. >> Uh Gary, 2332 03:31:52,000 --> 03:31:59,439 » we're a little beyond. >> Yeah, we're beyond the presentation 2333 03:31:55,359 --> 03:32:06,160 right now. I I will say that Alliant will work with developers to a certain 2334 03:32:02,960 --> 03:32:12,479 point and then they have to have the land located 2335 03:32:09,120 --> 03:32:15,680 on that they want to do because there's hundreds of thousands of dollars 2336 03:32:13,920 --> 03:32:20,239 involved with this. >> So 2337 03:32:17,520 --> 03:32:26,239 » you have to have a location that Alliant can then work with you to 2338 03:32:22,720 --> 03:32:28,560 work through all the other details. So, um, [snorts] 2339 03:32:27,200 --> 03:32:35,359 » but that doesn't invalidate the question, which is would it 2340 03:32:32,239 --> 03:32:40,239 » not viable? >> All right, I think we're done talking 2341 03:32:37,520 --> 03:32:43,600 about this on the presentation. Um, let's move on to the next. Thank 2342 03:32:42,880 --> 03:32:49,520 you, Amir. >> Thank you. 2343 03:32:45,760 --> 03:32:58,319 » Let's move on to the next. We're >> going to go into close session possibly. 2344 03:32:54,080 --> 03:33:01,880 um on this. >> Don't leave yet. 2345 03:33:04,640 --> 03:33:12,960 » Okay, so we did that >> back together. 2346 03:33:10,160 --> 03:33:16,000 » Oh, we got to go through our motions. >> That's the order of business. We have to 2347 03:33:14,800 --> 03:33:20,239 go to close session. >> Yeah, that's right. 2348 03:33:17,920 --> 03:33:20,239 » Okay. 2349 03:33:21,040 --> 03:33:26,239 Your honor, I do have a question. >> Yes. 2350 03:33:24,479 --> 03:33:33,960 » Who all will be present during close session if we are to agree to it? 2351 03:33:30,720 --> 03:33:33,960 » The council. 2352 03:33:35,520 --> 03:33:39,520 » What about >> the litigation? 2353 03:33:38,080 --> 03:33:42,560 » Yeah, the litigation I've been asked to set out. 2354 03:33:40,319 --> 03:33:47,120 » Yes. >> Okay. Uh first thing that we are going 2355 03:33:45,120 --> 03:33:50,080 to do >> um 2356 03:33:48,399 --> 03:33:51,840 Do I hear a motion to go into close session? 2357 03:33:50,960 --> 03:33:55,040 » So moved. >> Second. 2358 03:33:53,120 --> 03:34:00,399 » And then I have a quick comment. Um I'll be abstaining um uh due to being the 2359 03:33:58,399 --> 03:34:05,399 adverse party of it. >> Okay. 2360 03:34:01,520 --> 03:34:05,399 » And I would just like to say, 2361 03:34:05,600 --> 03:34:11,439 » your honor, >> hold on. 2362 03:34:09,359 --> 03:34:15,439 » You need to push your mic. >> Sorry about that. Uh just want to chime 2363 03:34:13,760 --> 03:34:18,880 in before a vote to go into >> your honor. Can you hear me? Yes, I can. 2364 03:34:17,600 --> 03:34:22,479 Hold on. >> Hold on a second, Melissa. Steve's 2365 03:34:21,359 --> 03:34:26,319 talking. >> You got to get close. 2366 03:34:25,040 --> 03:34:29,760 » All right. I just want to chime in before there's a vote on the close 2367 03:34:27,760 --> 03:34:33,840 session. Uh to let it be known that I am familiar 2368 03:34:32,000 --> 03:34:39,600 with the facts and circumstances, and it's my opinion that the council has a 2369 03:34:36,720 --> 03:34:45,040 legal right to go into close session uh under uh Iowa code section 21.5 2370 03:34:42,479 --> 03:34:50,319 subsection 1, paragraph C. >> Okay. Melissa, did you have something? 2371 03:34:48,800 --> 03:34:53,319 » Yes. I wanted to know who all was present. 2372 03:34:53,359 --> 03:34:58,960 » Who all is present? >> It will be the city council and the city 2373 03:34:57,760 --> 03:35:01,439 attorney >> and Kristen. 2374 03:35:00,239 --> 03:35:02,319 » Not yet. >> Not yet. 2375 03:35:01,920 --> 03:35:06,479 » No. >> Okay. 2376 03:35:04,239 --> 03:35:14,000 » First one is legal. >> Yes. And our legal council. Okay. 2377 03:35:10,239 --> 03:35:14,000 Let's have roll call, please. 2378 03:35:15,520 --> 03:35:23,600 Sorry. Clarification please. Which of the closed sessions? 2379 03:35:20,720 --> 03:35:26,880 » Number one. >> Okay. 2380 03:35:24,960 --> 03:35:32,239 » Gotcha. Thank you. And so we are doing those in order or we're at least going 2381 03:35:28,960 --> 03:35:36,640 through there. Thank you very much. >> Okay. So this is a motion to go into 2382 03:35:34,080 --> 03:35:39,840 close session. Cahill. >> Yes. Gonea. 2383 03:35:39,120 --> 03:35:42,800 » Yes. >> Mitchell. 2384 03:35:40,640 --> 03:35:44,640 » No. Nicholls, >> yes. 2385 03:35:43,920 --> 03:35:46,080 » Schneider, >> yes. 2386 03:35:45,439 --> 03:35:48,640 » Thompson, >> no. 2387 03:35:47,520 --> 03:35:51,640 » Yep. Gomez, >> obstain 2388 03:35:53,120 --> 03:35:58,520 failed >> because he obtained. 2389 03:35:55,520 --> 03:35:58,520 » Yes, 2390 03:35:58,960 --> 03:36:10,479 » we won't be able to enterain any type of 2391 03:36:04,800 --> 03:36:14,960 » Okay. So then we will move on to close session number two. 2392 03:36:12,560 --> 03:36:18,560 » Close session pursuant to section 21.5 subsection 1 paragraph J of the code of 2393 03:36:16,720 --> 03:36:21,600 Iowa to discuss the purchase and sale of particular real estate only where 2394 03:36:19,920 --> 03:36:24,319 premature disclosure could be reasonably expected to increase the price that the 2395 03:36:23,040 --> 03:36:27,520 government body would have to pay for the property or reduce the price that 2396 03:36:25,680 --> 03:36:30,640 the government body would receive for the property. The city of Marshalltown 2397 03:36:29,200 --> 03:36:36,239 has an attorney client relationship with Lynch Dallas PC by council resolution 2398 03:36:32,640 --> 03:36:39,359 2022 161 approved June 13, 2022. There may be council action by motion to 2399 03:36:37,920 --> 03:36:42,960 follow the close session if directed by the city's attorney. And 2400 03:36:42,479 --> 03:36:46,720 » okay, >> and as with the last one, um I am 2401 03:36:45,200 --> 03:36:51,840 familiar with the the facts and circumstances and it is my opinion that 2402 03:36:49,439 --> 03:36:57,359 the council has the legal right to enter into closed session for the stated 2403 03:36:54,160 --> 03:37:02,880 purpose pursuant to section 21.5 subsection 1 paragraph J of the Iowa 2404 03:37:00,239 --> 03:37:06,319 code. >> Move to go into close session. 2405 03:37:04,880 --> 03:37:11,040 » Second. >> Your honor, can I have a clarification 2406 03:37:08,160 --> 03:37:17,600 prior to going in just going not going into close session for this. 2407 03:37:13,760 --> 03:37:23,520 Would it then I'll I'll restate. Several people have asked that this stay in open 2408 03:37:19,840 --> 03:37:28,239 session. Would we not discuss it at all if it doesn't go to close session or 2409 03:37:25,359 --> 03:37:32,319 would we discuss it in open session? >> Uh that remains to be seen. There'd have 2410 03:37:30,080 --> 03:37:36,640 to be an open there would have to be a a motion and a vote to discuss it uh in 2411 03:37:34,640 --> 03:37:41,840 open session since there could be negative repercussions uh from that. Uh 2412 03:37:39,840 --> 03:37:47,040 typically uh you know the reason for going into close session is similar to 2413 03:37:44,319 --> 03:37:49,840 why you don't uh when you purchase a home for yourself, you don't sit down 2414 03:37:48,239 --> 03:37:54,000 with your spouse along with the other party across from a table and talk to 2415 03:37:52,000 --> 03:37:58,319 each other about it. You >> get that private so you can negotiate 2416 03:37:57,040 --> 03:38:03,680 fairly >> by going by not going into close 2417 03:38:00,960 --> 03:38:07,760 session. Would that have any um precedent setting for future real estate 2418 03:38:06,080 --> 03:38:14,160 activities? No, you you never have to uh go into uh 2419 03:38:12,000 --> 03:38:21,359 close session and I I don't think it would set a uh precedent. Uh but it 2420 03:38:18,560 --> 03:38:24,160 would arguably harm your negotiating position. 2421 03:38:22,640 --> 03:38:28,319 » Thank you. >> Okay, I have a motion and a second to go 2422 03:38:26,000 --> 03:38:30,960 into close session. >> Can I have a roll call, please? 2423 03:38:29,520 --> 03:38:33,600 » Mitchell, >> no. 2424 03:38:32,080 --> 03:38:34,640 » Nicholls, >> Schneider, 2425 03:38:34,160 --> 03:38:36,000 » yes. >> Thompson, 2426 03:38:35,359 --> 03:38:37,600 » no. >> Yep. Gomez. 2427 03:38:36,960 --> 03:38:40,600 » No. >> Cahill. 2428 03:38:40,880 --> 03:38:48,000 » Um, yes. Seca, 2429 03:38:46,479 --> 03:38:53,520 » yes. >> Okay, that motion failed 2430 03:38:50,880 --> 03:38:57,840 uh because we have three no votes. So, I would entertain a motion to discuss this 2431 03:38:55,600 --> 03:39:00,479 item uh in open session. >> So, I will make that motion. 2432 03:38:59,439 --> 03:39:05,120 » Okay. >> Second. 2433 03:39:01,760 --> 03:39:07,600 » Okay. Any questions or comments, >> your honor? 2434 03:39:06,160 --> 03:39:13,520 » Yes. >> I think it it would not be in our best 2435 03:39:11,040 --> 03:39:20,319 interest to go in open session with this primarily because 2436 03:39:16,000 --> 03:39:27,040 again what our what Steve just said and also because um just listening to 2437 03:39:24,479 --> 03:39:31,040 everything and yeah, it it it just wouldn't be good. 2438 03:39:28,800 --> 03:39:34,960 And also, um, I wanted to talk to you guys about getting I know I know Steve, 2439 03:39:33,760 --> 03:39:38,560 you know, you're a city attorney and everything, but having an actual real 2440 03:39:36,880 --> 03:39:43,680 estate attorney look at all these documents. Um, just with everything 2441 03:39:41,040 --> 03:39:48,239 being said um by the other party, I think that we really do need an actual 2442 03:39:45,680 --> 03:39:52,720 real estate commercial attorney. this. Now, thank you, Gary, for asking what 2443 03:39:50,960 --> 03:39:57,680 his background was cuz now we know that he was a commercial real estate agent 2444 03:39:54,960 --> 03:40:04,800 and um has his license in whatever state he's in, California or whatever. So, he 2445 03:40:00,399 --> 03:40:08,640 he knows more about um how to write up a purchase agreement cuz like whenever 2446 03:40:06,880 --> 03:40:12,640 obviously whenever we write up our own purchase agreements, it's going to look 2447 03:40:10,399 --> 03:40:17,120 a lot better for, you know, because we're licensed and things like that. So, 2448 03:40:14,880 --> 03:40:20,160 I I think we should really look into getting a real estate attorney, a 2449 03:40:19,040 --> 03:40:23,359 specific one. >> I would just point out that I am a real 2450 03:40:21,840 --> 03:40:26,880 attorney and a real real estate attorney, [laughter] 2451 03:40:24,960 --> 03:40:31,600 » uh, and that I handle all of the city's real estate transactions personally. So, 2452 03:40:30,319 --> 03:40:39,840 » thanks. >> Yeah. Also, Kristen Paulie is our 2453 03:40:34,800 --> 03:40:44,880 listing agent and did turn in the offer. >> Okay. 2454 03:40:41,200 --> 03:40:49,920 I know, but like what I'm saying is um 2455 03:40:47,680 --> 03:40:53,760 » Okay. I mean, I still think that we should have 2456 03:40:51,439 --> 03:40:57,520 somebody else look it over. >> Okay. Your honor, if I may. 2457 03:40:56,399 --> 03:41:01,282 » Okay. We have a >> Your honor, if I may. 2458 03:40:58,640 --> 03:41:04,160 » Yes. Um, [snorts] 2459 03:41:01,840 --> 03:41:09,279 I have a different reason for not wanting to go into this open session to 2460 03:41:06,080 --> 03:41:14,080 discuss this because I don't believe that just saying possible open session 2461 03:41:12,239 --> 03:41:19,600 open session to discuss the sale of real estate with possible action to follow. I 2462 03:41:16,960 --> 03:41:26,960 think it's in violation in my opinion. I'm not a real person or a real lawyer. 2463 03:41:23,200 --> 03:41:33,040 » So, real person. Um, so I'm just saying we did not tell the public what the 2464 03:41:29,439 --> 03:41:39,439 address was or anything about this. So I feel we failed to meet the open meeting 2465 03:41:35,200 --> 03:41:43,439 laws requirement and let you know what piece of property we're talking about 2466 03:41:41,920 --> 03:41:46,880 and there may have been other people that would have come to this meeting 2467 03:41:44,800 --> 03:41:54,239 tonight if they would have known what that property was. 2468 03:41:49,120 --> 03:41:58,720 So therefore I like councelor Fana do not believe we should go into this uh 2469 03:41:57,359 --> 03:42:02,880 discussion. >> Thank you. 2470 03:42:00,640 --> 03:42:08,560 » Yes. >> So uh it was clearly in the uh packet 2471 03:42:06,319 --> 03:42:12,720 what the presentation and the address was regarding this. Yes. 2472 03:42:10,160 --> 03:42:16,720 » So that is not a surprise. That is was public information beforehand 2473 03:42:15,600 --> 03:42:21,200 uh >> because that's in the packet. 2474 03:42:18,800 --> 03:42:24,640 The packet was air's presentation. There's nothing that says this closed 2475 03:42:22,800 --> 03:42:28,319 session and this open session were about his presentation. 2476 03:42:26,560 --> 03:42:33,200 » You know it because we have other information. They didn't know it before 2477 03:42:30,640 --> 03:42:36,319 they got the packet on Thursday. >> I I would say that was public 2478 03:42:34,479 --> 03:42:40,479 information because everybody know we got the audience here because of this 2479 03:42:38,640 --> 03:42:46,880 issue. >> Um it it could be more descriptive. I 2480 03:42:43,680 --> 03:42:53,760 think it's I think it's sufficient uh how it was described. Uh and I'd like 2481 03:42:49,439 --> 03:42:57,760 you to all keep in mind that nothing that you can't make a final decision on 2482 03:42:56,399 --> 03:43:04,000 this because you haven't yet complied with 3647 and made a resolution 2483 03:43:02,239 --> 03:43:08,000 proposing the sale and setting a public hearing. So that would still have to go 2484 03:43:05,920 --> 03:43:15,040 forward. >> Um and and that's the public hearing 2485 03:43:12,000 --> 03:43:20,080 aspect of it there. There's no city of Marshalltown is very generous uh 2486 03:43:18,080 --> 03:43:26,080 with its public input having basically public comment on every single agenda 2487 03:43:21,920 --> 03:43:32,080 item. Um that's not the cases the case most places. Um and there there's that's 2488 03:43:30,479 --> 03:43:36,160 why you have to have an actual public hearing to solicit public input uh with 2489 03:43:34,319 --> 03:43:42,319 a sale. You're kind of getting bonus input at this point would be would be my 2490 03:43:39,359 --> 03:43:48,080 uh take on that. and you would list it more specifically uh moving forward with 2491 03:43:45,040 --> 03:43:53,520 that formal resolution. >> Okay, 2492 03:43:50,239 --> 03:43:55,840 let's have a roll call, please. >> Thompson, 2493 03:43:55,040 --> 03:43:57,840 » no. >> Um, no. 2494 03:43:56,880 --> 03:44:00,319 » Yep. Gomez, >> no. 2495 03:43:58,720 --> 03:44:03,199 » Cahill, >> no. 2496 03:44:01,520 --> 03:44:04,800 » Bonka, >> no. 2497 03:44:03,920 --> 03:44:06,479 » Mitchells, >> no. 2498 03:44:05,520 --> 03:44:07,920 » Nicholls, >> yes. 2499 03:44:07,279 --> 03:44:12,000 » Schneider, >> yes. 2500 03:44:09,840 --> 03:44:17,439 What was the final vote on that? >> 52. 2501 03:44:14,080 --> 03:44:21,520 » 52. No. >> Okay. 2502 03:44:19,439 --> 03:44:28,920 » Well, >> let's go ahead and move on to 2503 03:44:25,920 --> 03:44:28,920 motions. 2504 03:44:29,120 --> 03:44:32,120 » G. 2505 03:44:33,120 --> 03:44:39,359 Number one, >> motion to appoint Marty Wymore to the 2506 03:44:37,439 --> 03:44:42,880 plan and zoning commission term ending March 31, 2028, replacing Matt 2507 03:44:41,600 --> 03:44:45,279 Broadding. >> Move to approve. 2508 03:44:43,680 --> 03:44:48,960 » Second. >> I have a motion and a second. 2509 03:44:47,040 --> 03:44:54,000 » I have a brief description of Marty's application. Marty has applied to serve 2510 03:44:51,600 --> 03:44:58,160 on the planning and zoning commission. He Marty is an American Institute of 2511 03:44:56,479 --> 03:45:02,325 Certified Planners member and has more than 35 years of professional experience 2512 03:45:00,239 --> 03:45:05,120 in community planning, infrastructure, [snorts] housing, transportation, 2513 03:45:03,760 --> 03:45:09,359 economic development, and grant administration. He holds a bachelor's 2514 03:45:07,359 --> 03:45:13,680 degree in geography and a master's of public administration. And he has served 2515 03:45:11,840 --> 03:45:17,760 as the executive director of region 6 resource partners since 1991. His 2516 03:45:16,239 --> 03:45:21,279 professional qualifications, knowledge of Marshall Town, and his interest in 2517 03:45:19,680 --> 03:45:26,239 quality growth and redevelopment would bring substantial experience and 2518 03:45:23,359 --> 03:45:30,439 expertise to the commission. >> Anyone have any questions or comments? 2519 03:45:30,560 --> 03:45:35,920 » Roll call, please. >> Cahill, 2520 03:45:33,199 --> 03:45:37,520 » yes. Bonka, >> yes. Mitchell, 2521 03:45:37,120 --> 03:45:38,479 » yes. >> Nicholls, 2522 03:45:38,080 --> 03:45:39,439 » yes. >> Schneider, 2523 03:45:39,040 --> 03:45:40,720 » yes. >> Thompson, 2524 03:45:40,080 --> 03:45:43,760 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 2525 03:45:41,680 --> 03:45:47,920 » yes. >> Okay. Okay. Motion number two, 2526 03:45:46,239 --> 03:45:52,560 » motion to appoint Robert Thomas to the Waterworks Board of Trustees, term 2527 03:45:49,600 --> 03:45:54,399 ending May 1 of 28, replacing Benjamin Fletcher. 2528 03:45:53,680 --> 03:45:57,279 » To approve. >> Second. 2529 03:45:55,600 --> 03:46:01,199 » A. I have a motion and a second. >> Okay. Mr. Thomas is the retired 2530 03:45:59,199 --> 03:46:06,239 president and CEO of United Bank and Trust and brings 44 years of experience 2531 03:46:03,760 --> 03:46:10,000 in management, finance, budgeting, bond issuance, and strategic planning. He has 2532 03:46:08,560 --> 03:46:13,600 an extensive history of service to organizations throughout the 2533 03:46:11,040 --> 03:46:16,880 Marshalltown area. His financial background and a stated interest in 2534 03:46:15,120 --> 03:46:20,960 water quality, infrastructure, and future water capacity will provide 2535 03:46:18,560 --> 03:46:24,880 valuable experience to the board. >> Do we have any questions or comments 2536 03:46:22,319 --> 03:46:26,560 from anyone? >> Roll call, please. 2537 03:46:25,840 --> 03:46:27,600 » Schneider, >> yes. 2538 03:46:26,960 --> 03:46:28,800 » Thompson, >> yes. 2539 03:46:27,920 --> 03:46:29,760 » Yep. Gomez, >> yes. 2540 03:46:29,120 --> 03:46:31,680 » Cahill, >> yes. 2541 03:46:30,239 --> 03:46:32,720 » Bonka, >> yes. 2542 03:46:32,080 --> 03:46:33,840 » Mitchell, >> yes. 2543 03:46:33,120 --> 03:46:37,680 » Nichols, >> yes. 2544 03:46:36,239 --> 03:46:40,800 » Okay. Number four. >> Number three. 2545 03:46:38,560 --> 03:46:44,720 » Motion. Motion to approve a 5-day class C retail alcohol license for Midnight 2546 03:46:42,479 --> 03:46:47,680 Ballroom LLC for the rodeo on October 17th at the Central Fairgrounds. 2547 03:46:46,720 --> 03:46:50,160 » Move for approval. >> Second. 2548 03:46:48,720 --> 03:46:54,000 » Have a motion and a second. Any questions or comments? 2549 03:46:53,120 --> 03:46:55,520 » Roll call, please. >> Mitchell, 2550 03:46:55,120 --> 03:46:56,479 » yes. >> Nicholls, 2551 03:46:56,080 --> 03:46:57,279 » yes. >> Schneider, 2552 03:46:56,960 --> 03:46:58,080 » yes. >> Thompson, 2553 03:46:57,760 --> 03:46:59,199 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 2554 03:46:58,880 --> 03:47:00,640 » yes. >> Cahill, 2555 03:47:00,000 --> 03:47:03,120 » yes. >> Seca, [clears throat] 2556 03:47:02,000 --> 03:47:09,199 » yes. >> Okay. Number four. 2557 03:47:06,560 --> 03:47:14,000 Motion to approve a 5-day special class C retail alcohol license for Lucky Wife 2558 03:47:11,439 --> 03:47:16,720 wine flushies for October 5th, September 24th to September 27th. 2559 03:47:15,840 --> 03:47:19,840 » Move for approval. >> Second. 2560 03:47:17,840 --> 03:47:23,600 » Okay, I have a motion and a second. Questions, comments? 2561 03:47:22,640 --> 03:47:25,199 » Roll call, please. >> Yep. Miss Gomez, 2562 03:47:24,720 --> 03:47:27,520 » yes. >> Cahill, 2563 03:47:25,840 --> 03:47:29,040 » yes. Jona, >> yes. Mitchell, 2564 03:47:28,640 --> 03:47:29,920 » yes. >> Nichols, 2565 03:47:29,600 --> 03:47:30,720 » yes. >> Schneider, 2566 03:47:30,399 --> 03:47:33,600 » yes. >> Thompson, 2567 03:47:31,359 --> 03:47:39,120 » yes. >> Okay, number five. Motion to approve a 2568 03:47:36,080 --> 03:47:44,160 5-day class C special class C retail alcohol license for Thirsty Pigs LLC for 2569 03:47:41,279 --> 03:47:46,160 October 1st, September 24th to 27th. >> Move for approval. 2570 03:47:45,040 --> 03:47:54,760 » Second. >> Okay. Any questions or comments? 2571 03:47:51,120 --> 03:47:54,760 » Roll call, please. 2572 03:47:55,040 --> 03:47:57,120 » Yes. Mitchell, >> yes. 2573 03:47:56,560 --> 03:47:58,239 » Nichols, >> yes. 2574 03:47:57,439 --> 03:47:59,040 » Schneider, yes. >> Thompson, 2575 03:47:58,800 --> 03:48:00,239 » yes. >> Yep. Gomez, 2576 03:47:59,920 --> 03:48:06,000 » yes. >> Cahill, yes. 2577 03:48:02,640 --> 03:48:08,960 » Okay. Resolution number one, >> resolution approving an amended 2578 03:48:07,359 --> 03:48:11,920 agreement between the city of Marshtown and the Marshall County Arts and Culture 2579 03:48:10,399 --> 03:48:17,680 Alliance, Inc. for a permanent art installation on city property at 101 2580 03:48:13,920 --> 03:48:22,399 West M West Main Street. >> Or a motion for approval. 2581 03:48:20,160 --> 03:48:26,399 » Move to approve. >> I have a motion and a second. [snorts] 2582 03:48:24,080 --> 03:48:30,880 Kelsey, >> good evening. Kelsey Stafford, park and 2583 03:48:28,479 --> 03:48:36,840 recreation director. One more moment. I'm just pulling up the final rendering 2584 03:48:33,040 --> 03:48:36,840 here for you all. 2585 03:48:43,359 --> 03:48:48,880 The Arts and Culture Alliance and the Parks and Recreation Department present 2586 03:48:46,880 --> 03:48:53,359 for your consideration an amended agreement to transition the temporary 2587 03:48:50,960 --> 03:48:57,680 activation of the lot located at 101 West Main Street to a permanent pocket 2588 03:48:55,279 --> 03:49:02,000 park. This project is born from overwhelming positive feedback from the 2589 03:48:59,359 --> 03:49:06,239 ACA's creative placemaking committee, conversations with community members and 2590 03:49:04,399 --> 03:49:09,680 local businesses, and support from both the Marshalltown Central Business 2591 03:49:07,760 --> 03:49:14,319 District and the Marshalltown Area Chamber of Commerce. 2592 03:49:11,760 --> 03:49:18,960 The city will be saving $800 to $1,000 per year in contract mowing costs, but 2593 03:49:16,399 --> 03:49:22,800 will incur about $50 per year in cost to maintain vegetation. 2594 03:49:21,120 --> 03:49:26,479 The park will require watering and minimal weed control in the first one 2595 03:49:24,399 --> 03:49:30,479 and a half to two years, but will continue to be low maintenance in the 2596 03:49:28,080 --> 03:49:35,279 future as carefully selected perennials, trees, and bushes establish. 2597 03:49:33,520 --> 03:49:39,520 The current landscaping plan in front of you includes no grass areas and has been 2598 03:49:37,520 --> 03:49:43,600 thoughtfully designed by Kristen Titus, park supervisor, to be as maintenance 2599 03:49:42,000 --> 03:49:47,680 friendly as possible while still remaining welcoming and beautiful. 2600 03:49:46,560 --> 03:49:52,239 As stewards of the city of Marshalltown's recreational spaces and 2601 03:49:49,520 --> 03:49:55,040 opportunities and fiscal resources, we believe that this space will have a 2602 03:49:53,520 --> 03:49:59,520 large impact addressing council's strategic goals and comprehensive plan 2603 03:49:57,040 --> 03:50:03,439 priorities with minimal financial and time investment. Staff is recommending 2604 03:50:01,920 --> 03:50:07,439 council's approval of the amended agreement. I have pulled up the 2605 03:50:05,359 --> 03:50:12,479 renderings for your review your review, excuse me, and Kristen is here to answer 2606 03:50:10,080 --> 03:50:16,399 any landscaping questions. With that, we will be happy to answer any questions 2607 03:50:13,920 --> 03:50:19,920 that you may have. Anyone have any questions? 2608 03:50:17,920 --> 03:50:24,080 » Yeah, quick question. So, what is the turf? I mean, that looks to me by the 2609 03:50:22,640 --> 03:50:29,359 rendering that we have, you have grass to mow and things to mow around. 2610 03:50:26,080 --> 03:50:34,239 » Yes. So, this is the um proposal that the artist gave. So, this is what the 2611 03:50:32,080 --> 03:50:38,000 the creative placemaking committee used to determine that we wanted to move 2612 03:50:35,760 --> 03:50:42,080 forward with this concept for the art. Um in front of you uh that I handed out 2613 03:50:40,560 --> 03:50:47,479 to you prior to the meeting is the landscaping plan. I will draw bring that 2614 03:50:44,160 --> 03:50:47,479 up. Now, 2615 03:50:49,600 --> 03:50:56,560 this is the landscaping plan that Kristen developed here. 2616 03:50:54,319 --> 03:51:01,439 Um, this will be a concrete path. I don't know if you can see my cursor. 2617 03:50:58,479 --> 03:51:05,199 Okay. And then pebble surrounding. Some things might need to change. We may need 2618 03:51:03,439 --> 03:51:09,199 to go with mulch instead of pebble or what have you. Um, we're hoping to do 2619 03:51:07,040 --> 03:51:13,520 turf, artificial turf in the back so that there will be noing no mowing on 2620 03:51:11,040 --> 03:51:17,840 this lot. Um, and Kristen can definitely explain 2621 03:51:16,000 --> 03:51:23,439 more about the landscaping if you have further questions, but we're looking at 2622 03:51:19,279 --> 03:51:29,840 raised seating um, walls right here and some tall colum columner trees in 2623 03:51:26,880 --> 03:51:34,319 the back. Further questions on the landscaping 2624 03:51:32,239 --> 03:51:36,000 plan? >> Your honor, if I may. 2625 03:51:35,279 --> 03:51:42,080 » Yeah. >> Well, this sounds great. If there's no 2626 03:51:38,160 --> 03:51:47,760 cost, would you say $50 a year? $50 a year in spring costs in minimal time. 2627 03:51:44,720 --> 03:51:52,000 » I think then that I think the Arts and Cultural Alliance should be able to buy 2628 03:51:49,279 --> 03:51:57,760 this lot for a dollar from us and take it over then if it's that little of uh 2629 03:51:54,800 --> 03:52:02,560 impact for them. >> One thing I will add, um [clears throat] 2630 03:52:01,120 --> 03:52:07,920 for the installation time, we're estimating 160 hours for the hardscapes 2631 03:52:05,120 --> 03:52:12,399 and 48 hours for the plantings. And then an annual maintenance for the first one 2632 03:52:09,520 --> 03:52:15,680 and a half years. 54 hours to water. That's annual. And then two hours to cut 2633 03:52:14,399 --> 03:52:20,319 back the perennials at the end of the year. And I'll let uh Amber address that 2634 03:52:18,080 --> 03:52:21,600 if she'd like. >> So 2635 03:52:20,640 --> 03:52:27,840 » I think it's pretty straightforward. >> All that for $50 a year. 2636 03:52:24,960 --> 03:52:32,239 » So um Amber can speak to the budget if she would like, but it is all going to 2637 03:52:29,600 --> 03:52:36,560 be paid for through um ACA. some city dollars that were already allocated in 2638 03:52:34,239 --> 03:52:41,680 the existing agreement and then grant funding as well. 2639 03:52:39,680 --> 03:52:46,319 Cost for labor of course in the hours that I explained. 2640 03:52:44,319 --> 03:52:52,960 » Okay. Any other questions? >> I do have one. The hours that you 2641 03:52:49,199 --> 03:52:58,080 mentioned are those um employee hours? >> Yes. Okay. So that is not included in 2642 03:52:55,920 --> 03:53:01,279 the $50 a month. >> Correct. 2643 03:52:58,720 --> 03:53:05,680 » Correct. So it is substantially more than that in a year. 2644 03:53:02,960 --> 03:53:11,279 » So yes, in in our general fund line items, it'd be $50, but there is 2645 03:53:08,319 --> 03:53:16,800 personnel cost for any any labor that we would have. Again, the installation 2646 03:53:13,520 --> 03:53:22,319 upfront is going to be some substantial hours there about one and a half to two 2647 03:53:18,800 --> 03:53:27,040 weeks of time um for about four employees to do the work. 2648 03:53:24,000 --> 03:53:30,720 » Okay. And then annual maintenance, 54 hours to water for the first one and a 2649 03:53:28,800 --> 03:53:34,479 half years once those plants establish. Similar to the welcome signs, we don't 2650 03:53:33,199 --> 03:53:39,359 go out there and water those anymore because the plants are established. 2651 03:53:37,199 --> 03:53:43,040 » And I must say, your planters out in front of here are beautiful. 2652 03:53:40,880 --> 03:53:47,880 » Our staff does amazing work. Absolutely. Thank you. 2653 03:53:44,880 --> 03:53:47,880 Yes. 2654 03:53:49,840 --> 03:53:57,040 Uh, you know, Gary. Oh, excuse me. Amber Danielson. I I should should I say good 2655 03:53:54,239 --> 03:53:59,760 night or good evening? I'm not sure. Um 126 West Main Street with the Arts and 2656 03:53:58,720 --> 03:54:05,279 Culture Alliance. >> Gary, you previously asked, "Are we 2657 03:54:01,760 --> 03:54:10,880 prohibited to purchase land?" I said no. The question I think really is, are we 2658 03:54:07,439 --> 03:54:17,120 positioned to maintain this facility or this asset? The answer is also no. Uh 2659 03:54:14,479 --> 03:54:20,880 the ACA is a partner to the city and our role is to bring the community's ideas 2660 03:54:19,439 --> 03:54:25,199 through life through the arts and culture master plan. That is our 2661 03:54:22,720 --> 03:54:29,199 contract with the city. Bringing artists to the table, engaging the community, 2662 03:54:27,439 --> 03:54:34,080 identifying resources, fundraising, managing the project, and turn those 2663 03:54:31,680 --> 03:54:38,399 plans into action alongside the community. And that's exactly what we've 2664 03:54:36,080 --> 03:54:43,760 done with this space. Uh, but we are not a parks and wreck organization. This is 2665 03:54:40,319 --> 03:54:49,040 a pocket park and we are not equipped to own and maintain this. Um, this pocket 2666 03:54:47,199 --> 03:54:52,720 park is, and I talked a little bit about this last time when I was here, this 2667 03:54:50,479 --> 03:54:58,080 pocket park has been in the plans for quite some time. It has been stagnant. 2668 03:54:55,439 --> 03:55:03,040 Uh, essentially what we did was bring the community together to tell us that 2669 03:55:01,279 --> 03:55:06,720 this is what the community wants. And so in alignment with the downtown master 2670 03:55:04,800 --> 03:55:12,080 plan, with the comprehensive plan that we might get to before midnight, uh it 2671 03:55:09,760 --> 03:55:16,560 is in these plans that the city has laid out to do these pocket plan or as pocket 2672 03:55:14,479 --> 03:55:22,239 parks. And our contract is to do that alongside of you, not to take the um 2673 03:55:20,080 --> 03:55:25,279 role of parks and wreck, but to be a partner with the city and Kelsey and her 2674 03:55:24,399 --> 03:55:30,160 team. >> Amber, how much was the grant that you 2675 03:55:28,800 --> 03:55:36,960 do you remember? >> I do. Um, so actually I had an 2676 03:55:33,439 --> 03:55:43,439 opportunity to meet with the um leader of AARP Iowa last week. They are using 2677 03:55:40,960 --> 03:55:48,720 our project, the pocket park project as a guinea pig for how they can do a 2678 03:55:46,319 --> 03:55:52,479 better job of engaging their AARP members in the communities with the 2679 03:55:50,880 --> 03:55:58,560 projects they are funding. They're very excited about this. So they've already 2680 03:55:54,560 --> 03:56:04,160 taken what was a $30,000 project and of given 15,000. we actively have another 2681 03:56:01,760 --> 03:56:07,840 20,000 on the table pending turning it permanent um along with other grants 2682 03:56:06,399 --> 03:56:11,920 that we're already starting to pursue. There's a lot of opportunity to take 2683 03:56:09,920 --> 03:56:16,080 even more of what the community has offered to us and implement it into this 2684 03:56:14,000 --> 03:56:19,439 design. So, what you're seeing is really kind of what I would call, and I'm 2685 03:56:17,760 --> 03:56:23,199 pointing to this screen, but what I am pointing to is the renderings that you 2686 03:56:21,439 --> 03:56:26,720 got in the packet, what I would call phase one. There are going to be 2687 03:56:24,720 --> 03:56:30,800 multiple phases to this project pending it being permanent because we're taking 2688 03:56:28,560 --> 03:56:36,080 all the feedback from the community and parks and wreck and implementing that as 2689 03:56:33,120 --> 03:56:40,720 we get more funding uh to implement this and funding 2690 03:56:38,000 --> 03:56:45,199 for this similar I will say to the Lin Creek District projects has been 2691 03:56:42,239 --> 03:56:50,160 relatively easy because when we build projects alongside the community uh and 2692 03:56:47,840 --> 03:56:55,520 do it in a unique way people want to invest in that. So, I anticipate these 2693 03:56:52,479 --> 03:56:59,279 projects um getting more fundraising and uh more funds in place so that we can do 2694 03:56:57,199 --> 03:57:05,199 more than what you see before you. >> Okay. Um just to point out it uh the 2695 03:57:02,880 --> 03:57:07,680 resolution does say a permanent art installation. 2696 03:57:07,359 --> 03:57:11,040 » Correct. >> So, what we will be voting on is a 2697 03:57:09,279 --> 03:57:14,920 permanent art installation. >> Well, it's the agreement 2698 03:57:18,800 --> 03:57:23,520 for permanent Yeah. 2699 03:57:22,720 --> 03:57:29,600 » Yeah. >> Okay. Just so everybody knows. Okay. 2700 03:57:26,319 --> 03:57:33,319 Does anyone else have any questions? Anything from the public? 2701 03:57:33,760 --> 03:57:39,040 » I l peri 20 East State Street. I just had 2702 03:57:37,840 --> 03:57:43,199 a quick question after reviewing the contract. Uh the agreement says the ACA 2703 03:57:41,120 --> 03:57:47,199 will complete the project as funds allow. Can staff clarify what that 2704 03:57:45,279 --> 03:57:52,680 means? And if the fundraising falls short, does the city become responsible 2705 03:57:48,880 --> 03:57:52,680 for finishing the project? 2706 03:57:53,680 --> 03:58:02,880 » The city will not be obligated to bridge the gap in any funding. Um, so the the 2707 03:58:00,479 --> 03:58:09,600 design may change to accommodate the the funds that we would have in place. 2708 03:58:06,560 --> 03:58:14,160 » Anything from anyone else? >> Roll call, please. 2709 03:58:13,040 --> 03:58:17,600 » Yep. Gomez. >> Yes. Cahill. 2710 03:58:15,760 --> 03:58:19,359 » Yes. Conka, >> yes. Mitchell, 2711 03:58:18,880 --> 03:58:20,319 » yes. >> Nichols, 2712 03:58:19,920 --> 03:58:21,359 » yes. >> Schneider, 2713 03:58:20,880 --> 03:58:23,199 » yes. >> Thompson, 2714 03:58:22,080 --> 03:58:27,984 » yes. >> Okay, 2715 03:58:24,800 --> 03:58:31,040 moving on to resolution number two. [snorts] 2716 03:58:28,640 --> 03:58:34,239 » Resolution approving a chapter 28E agreement with the Marshtown Community 2717 03:58:32,399 --> 03:58:37,520 School District for shot and discus facilities at West End Park. 2718 03:58:36,080 --> 03:58:42,160 » Move to approve. >> Second. 2719 03:58:38,640 --> 03:58:45,920 » Okay, I have a motion and a second. Kelsey Stafford, park and recreation 2720 03:58:43,840 --> 03:58:50,160 director. Presented for council's consideration is a 28e agreement between 2721 03:58:48,319 --> 03:58:53,439 the city and the Marshalltown Community School District for shared use of a 2722 03:58:51,920 --> 03:58:57,359 section of green space between the Weston Park ball diamond and Brady 2723 03:58:55,120 --> 03:59:01,439 Creek. The purpose of the agreement is to allow for the reconfiguration of this 2724 03:58:59,199 --> 03:59:06,399 space for discus and shotput activities between March 1 and May 31 each year. 2725 03:59:04,560 --> 03:59:10,479 The usage of this area will include the installation of necessary pads and back 2726 03:59:08,319 --> 03:59:14,640 stop fencing as well as the removal of the outfield ball diamond fence to the 2727 03:59:12,160 --> 03:59:18,479 ballfield dugouts. Maintenance during the track season time frame will be 2728 03:59:16,239 --> 03:59:22,399 completed by MCSD while the city will continue to maintain the area for the 2729 03:59:20,080 --> 03:59:26,080 remainder of the year. The parks and recreation department values its ongoing 2730 03:59:24,160 --> 03:59:30,160 partnership with MCSD and is recommending approval of this 28e 2731 03:59:27,840 --> 03:59:34,160 agreement. With that, I will be happy to answer any questions that you may have 2732 03:59:31,680 --> 03:59:36,960 and I see Dr. Shy is here as well if you have questions specific to him. Thank 2733 03:59:36,000 --> 03:59:41,279 you. >> Does anyone have any questions? 2734 03:59:40,319 --> 03:59:43,279 » John, if I may. >> Yes. 2735 03:59:41,760 --> 03:59:46,880 » Why does the fence have to be removed from the softball diamond? 2736 03:59:45,359 --> 03:59:52,080 » The fence needs to be removed from the softball diamond because of the distance 2737 03:59:49,600 --> 03:59:57,160 required for the shot hood and discus activities 2738 03:59:53,760 --> 03:59:57,160 for the throwing. 2739 03:59:58,880 --> 04:00:03,520 I believe there was a diagram in the packet too. I might be able to 2740 04:00:03,040 --> 04:00:06,560 » um >> pull that up. 2741 04:00:04,319 --> 04:00:10,880 » That fence isn't in terribly good shape, is it? 2742 04:00:07,920 --> 04:00:15,520 » It is not. And we we do not anticipate that it will impact the use of any 2743 04:00:13,279 --> 04:00:20,399 softball or baseball activity that would be happening there as of now. 2744 04:00:19,991 --> 04:00:25,640 [clears throat] >> Okay. Then, do you have something? 2745 04:00:31,359 --> 04:00:38,319 there in Shy 507 Craig Circle School District Superintendent. Um I thought 2746 04:00:36,000 --> 04:00:44,000 Kelsey did a great job describing the answer to Gary's question is um we 2747 04:00:41,680 --> 04:00:50,640 wouldn't want the existing fencing to inhibit um the throws whether it be shot 2748 04:00:47,040 --> 04:00:57,840 put or discus. Um, I had shared with Kelsey that based on the limited use but 2749 04:00:54,560 --> 04:01:04,479 continued use of softball recreation there if we found that there was an 2750 04:01:00,720 --> 04:01:09,040 issue with balls going um towards or into the creek that we'd be happy to put 2751 04:01:06,399 --> 04:01:15,120 a temporary snow fence up uh for the outfield fences. The uh left field fence 2752 04:01:12,479 --> 04:01:21,120 is already removed and has been removed for some time. Opening up the space to 2753 04:01:18,319 --> 04:01:27,600 the park. Uh we're just looking at doing the same with the right field fence and 2754 04:01:24,160 --> 04:01:33,439 outfield fence. >> Thank you. Anything else? 2755 04:01:31,600 --> 04:01:38,000 » Let's have roll call. >> Yeah. Gomez. 2756 04:01:35,040 --> 04:01:40,960 » Yes. >> Kill. 2757 04:01:38,800 --> 04:01:42,239 » Yes. Seca, >> yes. 2758 04:01:41,600 --> 04:01:43,359 » Mitchell, >> yes. 2759 04:01:42,720 --> 04:01:44,319 » Nicholls, >> yes. 2760 04:01:43,760 --> 04:01:45,439 » Schneider, >> yes. 2761 04:01:44,720 --> 04:01:49,920 » Thompson, >> yes. 2762 04:01:47,840 --> 04:01:55,622 » Okay. To the last item, number three. I 2763 04:01:52,640 --> 04:02:02,000 declare a public hearing open [clears throat] 2764 04:01:57,120 --> 04:02:06,760 for uh item number three at 9:02 p.m. 2765 04:02:11,359 --> 04:02:17,520 And this is for the open hearing public hearing on the resolution on adoption of 2766 04:02:15,600 --> 04:02:26,479 the Marshalltown 2045 comprehensive plan. Um, 2767 04:02:22,880 --> 04:02:29,840 do we have any? Yeah, go ahead. Getting late. 2768 04:02:28,160 --> 04:02:33,840 » Good evening, Clayton Ender, assistant director of housing, community 2769 04:02:30,720 --> 04:02:38,479 development. Uh, this is your public hearing on adoption of our newest 2770 04:02:36,479 --> 04:02:41,920 comprehensive plan. Uh, I do want to acknowledge a couple people in the room 2771 04:02:40,560 --> 04:02:47,680 uh that have helped us along the way. We do have representative of our consultant 2772 04:02:43,359 --> 04:02:50,399 team, RDG, here. Um then uh certain several members of our steering 2773 04:02:48,960 --> 04:02:53,920 committee uh which I'll acknowledge and then city staff as well and all of you. 2774 04:02:52,319 --> 04:02:59,040 So thank every thank you everyone. It's been a long process. Um but we've been 2775 04:02:57,279 --> 04:03:04,160 working on this comprehensive plan since about summer 2025. Uh this is an update 2776 04:03:02,160 --> 04:03:10,000 to our current plan that dated back to the early 2010s. Um and so now this plan 2777 04:03:07,760 --> 04:03:14,319 accounts for some major events that have happened in town since our last plan. 2778 04:03:11,920 --> 04:03:20,880 We've had a tornado, a trade show, uh pandemic, changing uh the economy has 2779 04:03:18,800 --> 04:03:25,279 happened. So, a lot has transpired since our last plan. So, this brings us back 2780 04:03:22,399 --> 04:03:31,439 into perspective for our next 20 years. What will happen for 2045? 2781 04:03:28,399 --> 04:03:37,279 Um so, throughout this process, uh we've had various means of public engagement. 2782 04:03:34,560 --> 04:03:42,000 Uh we had our plan advisory committee I miss mentioned to you. Uh we hosted uh 2783 04:03:40,080 --> 04:03:48,479 more than 10 stakeholder listening events around the community. Uh we went 2784 04:03:45,279 --> 04:03:53,760 to our major employers and we held community roundt event, community open 2785 04:03:51,199 --> 04:03:57,680 house, interactive public website. So really put the message out there as much 2786 04:03:55,520 --> 04:04:01,199 as we can for the community to be involved and and we did get great 2787 04:03:59,199 --> 04:04:05,520 involvement from our community. Um so I'm very pleased with that. 2788 04:04:03,600 --> 04:04:09,600 Uh I'm not going to go through the plan in excruciating detail. We can go dive 2789 04:04:07,680 --> 04:04:14,800 into it if needed. But just as a highle overview for you, uh the plan covers 2790 04:04:11,760 --> 04:04:19,199 land use and design, mobility, housing and neighborhoods, parks, trails, and 2791 04:04:16,720 --> 04:04:24,080 the environment, economic development, and sub areas, facilities, and 2792 04:04:21,199 --> 04:04:28,960 infrastructure, and and uh rounds out with an implementation chapter on how we 2793 04:04:26,239 --> 04:04:34,160 should go about uh achieving the goals we we have set for ourselves over the 2794 04:04:31,600 --> 04:04:38,800 next 20 years. Uh this has been reviewed by our planning and zoning commission 2795 04:04:35,920 --> 04:04:42,720 and uh they have recommended approval of the plan to you. Um I'll keep my 2796 04:04:41,279 --> 04:04:46,800 comments short since we are late this evening but uh certainly can go into 2797 04:04:45,040 --> 04:04:54,120 detail if needed. >> Does anyone have any questions? 2798 04:04:50,399 --> 04:04:54,120 » Anything from the public? 2799 04:04:57,760 --> 04:05:04,319 » Lane Perry 20 State Street. Um, I just wanted to be absolutely sure that 2800 04:05:02,399 --> 04:05:09,920 because I know there's been people with concerns about the annexation part of 2801 04:05:05,840 --> 04:05:15,520 this. um that I just want to clarify and make sure that that being in there, that 2802 04:05:12,880 --> 04:05:21,439 area being labeled for reasonzoning and labeled for like future annexation, that 2803 04:05:18,479 --> 04:05:28,160 doesn't count as anything towards a vested interest for the proposed 2804 04:05:24,319 --> 04:05:30,720 or un not proposed, but the speculated data center build. I just want to make 2805 04:05:29,680 --> 04:05:34,720 sure. >> No, not unless something's in writing 2806 04:05:32,720 --> 04:05:37,840 and there's nothing in writing. the packets in writing. That's the only 2807 04:05:36,239 --> 04:05:42,239 reason I was concerned. Okay. >> Uh and to add on to that, we did review 2808 04:05:40,239 --> 04:05:47,279 all property within two miles of our city limits for future land uses. Um the 2809 04:05:45,279 --> 04:05:50,640 vast majority of that and well the reason we did two miles, that's our extr 2810 04:05:48,880 --> 04:05:55,760 territorial review authority by Iowa code. Um so that's why we did two miles. 2811 04:05:53,120 --> 04:06:00,399 The vast majority of that is proposed to essentially just remain as is. Uh we're 2812 04:05:58,640 --> 04:06:04,880 not going to touch it. uh where we did start to paint future land uses outside 2813 04:06:02,640 --> 04:06:09,199 of our city limits, uh we took into consideration where were existing 2814 04:06:07,040 --> 04:06:13,840 utilities and where was some of that development pressure occurring. Um just 2815 04:06:12,160 --> 04:06:18,399 because we show something outside city limits as a future land use doesn't mean 2816 04:06:16,399 --> 04:06:23,359 we have to annex it. We need to review those independently upon those requests. 2817 04:06:21,520 --> 04:06:29,680 Um but this gives us a guide of where we think development could happen. Um we 2818 04:06:26,800 --> 04:06:33,680 did a lot of land use uh calculations. How much land do we need for various 2819 04:06:31,120 --> 04:06:40,640 uses? The vast majority of it can be accommodated within existing city 2820 04:06:36,319 --> 04:06:44,080 limits. Uh but that does uh it matters whether or not does the existing 2821 04:06:41,920 --> 04:06:48,000 property owner want to develop their property or not. Um we can't we're not 2822 04:06:46,160 --> 04:06:52,160 compelling anyone to develop anything. That's still an owner driven 2823 04:06:49,840 --> 04:06:56,880 opportunity. So, we really show more land than we actually need um to meet 2824 04:06:55,040 --> 04:07:01,279 the various needs because to account for some of those uh economic forces that 2825 04:06:59,279 --> 04:07:08,479 could come into play of I just would rather my property stay a farm field or 2826 04:07:03,439 --> 04:07:11,600 I'm ready to go now. Um so, >> okay. Is there any other public comment? 2827 04:07:11,439 --> 04:07:19,640 I >> had a question for Clan. Uh 2828 04:07:15,120 --> 04:07:19,640 » wait, wait. Okay. 2829 04:07:23,199 --> 04:07:30,560 I can just take a couple seconds. Charlie C with RDG plane design 31 Grand 2830 04:07:28,000 --> 04:07:35,760 Avenue De Mo Iowa. Just wanted to say thank you. Uh it's been we work across 2831 04:07:33,600 --> 04:07:42,160 the Midwest on these types of plans all over different states. And I would say a 2832 04:07:40,080 --> 04:07:46,080 lot of times we don't have involvement all the way till the end. uh even with 2833 04:07:44,000 --> 04:07:51,279 our committee and we have a lot of our committee members here through the wee 2834 04:07:48,319 --> 04:07:54,880 hours uh tonight even. So uh thank you for everyone being very involved 2835 04:07:53,279 --> 04:08:00,399 throughout the process as Clayton mentioned great uh community involvement 2836 04:07:57,520 --> 04:08:04,560 at our events we held as well and uh I we had edits all the way up to the end 2837 04:08:02,640 --> 04:08:08,800 with everyone reading it and providing really good good feedback. So um that's 2838 04:08:08,080 --> 04:08:11,279 all I got. >> We were the best community, right? 2839 04:08:10,560 --> 04:08:13,760 » Yeah. Yeah, >> you are. [laughter] 2840 04:08:12,800 --> 04:08:19,439 Thank you. >> Okay. Any other question? Okay. I'm 2841 04:08:16,800 --> 04:08:21,760 going to close the public hearing. Uh did we have any written comments? 2842 04:08:20,880 --> 04:08:28,160 » No, your honor. >> Okay. I'm going to close the public 2843 04:08:23,760 --> 04:08:30,560 hearing at 9:08 p.m. and I'll accept uh motion to approve. 2844 04:08:29,520 --> 04:08:34,000 » I so move. >> Second. 2845 04:08:31,760 --> 04:08:37,199 » Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any questions or comments by the council? 2846 04:08:35,520 --> 04:08:40,960 » Yeah, I just had a quick question. So in that annexation um I know there's been 2847 04:08:39,520 --> 04:08:44,720 concerns like with houses and residential homes that are more like a 2848 04:08:43,359 --> 04:08:49,040 homes >> um will planning and zoning be 2849 04:08:47,120 --> 04:08:52,640 considering zoning those appropriately or are they staying industrial if an 2850 04:08:51,199 --> 04:08:57,359 annexation would happen? >> Uh so upon annexation all property is 2851 04:08:55,600 --> 04:09:01,840 automatically zoned lowdensity residential um and then they would 2852 04:09:00,239 --> 04:09:07,840 subsequently have to go through a reszoning process planning and zoning 2853 04:09:03,439 --> 04:09:12,960 commission city council. So uh any zoning in addition to lowdensity 2854 04:09:10,560 --> 04:09:16,800 residential would be subsequent uh approval. So does that hopefully that 2855 04:09:15,760 --> 04:09:18,239 answers your question? >> Your honor, if I may. 2856 04:09:17,840 --> 04:09:23,040 » Yeah. >> So Clayton, please tell Marco that what 2857 04:09:21,120 --> 04:09:27,439 you're really saying is the people that want to stay there next to a data center 2858 04:09:24,960 --> 04:09:30,960 on Shady Oaks Road, they will be legal non-conforming 2859 04:09:29,520 --> 04:09:35,359 after you reszone it in heavy industrial. Correct. 2860 04:09:33,359 --> 04:09:40,560 Uh well, it depends on if their specific property is reszoned or not. 2861 04:09:37,920 --> 04:09:44,800 » But I mean, if it's an acreage, you would reszone that whole area, correct? 2862 04:09:42,960 --> 04:09:48,479 » We don't have to. We can we can limit the reszoning to just development 2863 04:09:46,720 --> 04:09:51,600 parcels themselves and leave other areas alone. 2864 04:09:49,120 --> 04:09:53,600 » So, you'd spot zone. >> Well, it wouldn't be spot zoning because 2865 04:09:53,279 --> 04:09:56,239 you >> it would be out the edge of those. 2866 04:09:54,800 --> 04:09:59,040 » It'd be at the edge and it's, you know, allow it's following the comprehensive 2867 04:09:57,600 --> 04:10:02,720 plan. Those properties could potentially reszone themselves in the future. They 2868 04:10:00,960 --> 04:10:08,319 could petition themselves. They could see an opportunity and say, "I have a 2869 04:10:05,680 --> 04:10:13,120 couple acres here in an industrial area. Maybe I'm ready to sell industrial." So, 2870 04:10:11,279 --> 04:10:19,199 someone could come in after the fact and want to reszone those as well. 2871 04:10:15,920 --> 04:10:22,560 Or we could as a city say, "Nope, we think it's in the best interest that we 2872 04:10:20,479 --> 04:10:28,000 clean up all the zoning at this time and and make that decision." So, 2873 04:10:25,439 --> 04:10:34,800 it it's hypothetical. I could take you down many different scenarios there. Um, 2874 04:10:31,199 --> 04:10:39,399 but I'd be speculating. >> Okay, any other questions? 2875 04:10:40,080 --> 04:10:42,640 » Roll call, please. >> Schneider, 2876 04:10:42,080 --> 04:10:44,239 » yes. >> Thompson, 2877 04:10:43,279 --> 04:10:48,960 » no. >> Yep. Gomez, 2878 04:10:47,680 --> 04:10:52,640 » no. >> Cahill, 2879 04:10:49,840 --> 04:10:56,319 » yes. Fea, >> yes. Mitchell 2880 04:10:55,520 --> 04:10:59,680 » Nicholls. >> Yes. 2881 04:10:59,120 --> 04:11:01,279 » Yes. >> Okay. 2882 04:11:00,000 --> 04:11:04,279 » 43. >> Okay. 2883 04:11:04,319 --> 04:11:11,120 » With that, that is the end of the meeting and thank you for everybody for 2884 04:11:07,920 --> 04:11:16,359 sticking by and everybody being well behaved. Meeting adjourned at 911. 2885 04:11:20,640 --> 04:11:27,680 » You are on. He was good. 2886 04:11:24,319 --> 04:11:31,319 » He didn't go over. That was impressive. That was impressive.