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Good morning. It's privilege to represent the Grace Place Church, which has been serving our community for 49 years. Let's look to the Lord this morning. Join me in prayer.

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Dear Lord,

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what a blessing it is to wake up each and every morning to this beautiful community. This slice of paradise, we call Martin County. We thank you that every day. We hear the call of the sand and the surf. We enjoy the beautiful rays of your

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Golden Sunshine, Lord, we thank you that we get to live in a community with diversity, with

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people of every age and stage of life, we thank you, God, that we can share this community

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together. And we pray for its prosperity. We pray God for your favor to rest upon our community.

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And Lord, we pray for those in our communities today who may be less fortunate, those who need

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your provision. Those who may not know where they're going to lay their head tonight or where

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they're going to find their next meal. God, we pray on their behalf that you would take care

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of them. We thank you for the decisions that are going to be made in this body today. We pray

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for your divine wisdom that you would govern every action that is taken today. And Lord, we just

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give our community to you again. We thank you for it and we pray your best over it. And we pray

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this in your name.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which

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it stands.

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One nation under God handed this home with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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There are three additional items today, one is Proclamation 2, which is a presentation of a certificate

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of recognition to Josiah Bauer.

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Approximation three is present a plaque of recognition and appreciation to Donald Adamson upon the occasion of his retirement from service with the Martin County Board County Commissioners consent 12 is a doctor proclamation declaring Florida redevelopment week in Martin County.

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There are two consent polls today one is consent five and it's been pulled by commissioners can't be heard in Hetherington and consent seven.

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which is pulled by commissioner heard. Is there a motion to approve the agenda?

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I'm of approval of the agenda.

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Second, there's a motion in a second, all those in favor.

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I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

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We will begin with proclamations.

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The first proclamation is to present proclamations that were previously approved by the Board.

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The first is

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a proclamation declaring constitution week in Martin County, Florida.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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September 17th, 2026 marks the 239th anniversary

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of the creation of the Constitution of the United States

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of America by the Constitutional Convention.

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The week of September 17th through the 23rd

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is hereby recognized as Constitution Week

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and the Board encourages all citizens

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to study the Constitution

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and reflect on the privilege of being an American

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with all the rights and responsibilities

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that privilege involves.

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And here to accept, we have Race and Maca

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with the help had a cookie chapter

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of the daughters of the American Revolution.

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Thank you for this opportunity and for the

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proclamation for the Martin County Board

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County Commissioners, acknowledging

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September 17 through the 23rd

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its Constitution Week.

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In 1955 the National Society

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daughters of the American Revolution

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petition Congress with a

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resolution to set aside September 17th through

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the 23rd dedicated for the

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Observation of Constitution Week.

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The annual celebration was established

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when signed into law by President the White D.I.s. in Hauer on August 2nd, 1956.

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NSDAR is committed to encouraging study and educating the public about the Constitution,

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and the men who framed it.

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Thank you again for this proclamation on behalf of the nearly 300 members of Hal Pattioke

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chapter.

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We invite you to join us for the ringing of the bells and celebration of the signing of

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Constitution on September 17th at 4 o'clock at the Stewart downtown Gazeabuff. Thank you.

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The next proclamation is a proclamation declaring September 2026 as big brothers big sisters month in Martin County, Florida. Big brothers big sisters of Palm Beach and Martin County has been dedicated to creating and supporting one to one mentoring relationships that ignite the power and promise of youth.

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September is recognized nationally as a time to celebrate mentorship and raise awareness of the life-changing impact that positive supportive relationships have on young people.

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Excuse me, the 40th anniversary of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Palm Beach and Martin Counties

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marks the significant milestone in its ongoing mission to empower the potential of youth

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and build a stronger future for our community.

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And here to accept we have Katie Napfell, Vice President of Programs with Big Brothers Big

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Sisters of Palm Beach and Martin Counties.

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Commissioners, on behalf of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Palm Beach and Martin Counties,

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thank you for this proclamation recognizing our 40th anniversary.

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We are honored by this acknowledgment and grateful for the support that this is made for

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decade that has made four decades of impact possible.

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Today our agency serves more than 430 children across Palm Beach and Martin Counties through

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one to one mentoring relationships.

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We currently have over 200 children waiting to be matched in across our counties, primarily

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boys waiting for mail mentors.

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We are so grateful for the support of our community partners, including Children Services Council

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of Martin County, whose investment helps ensure that young people have access to the mentoring

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relationships they need to succeed.

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As we celebrate this milestone, we are grateful for the families who trust us, the mentors

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who serve, our community partners who invest in our mission, and the local leaders who

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recognize the importance of developing the next generation.

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Thank you again for this recognition and for your partnership in building brighter futures

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one to one mentoring relationship at a time. Thank you.

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Our next proclamation is proclamation honoring Josiah Bauer.

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Is someone going to explain why we're honoring Mr. Bauer?

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Sure. As the district three commissioner,

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I thought it inappropriate to recognize Josiah Bauer for his heroic action in preventing

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a very close call on the life of Debbie Spulstra, a Hobbsound resident at the railroad crossing

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on Bridge Road in Hobbsown and Mr. Bauer is coming up now.

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I don't know if you all are on social media, but when this thing hit the fan, it was a big story.

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There are hopes on happenings Facebook page, had over 6,300 likes and nearly 600 shares.

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So, I think everybody in Martin County knows about this story and I'm going to let Josiah

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Bauer and Debbie Spolsra tell more about it.

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So, thank you for coming today.

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Good morning.

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And thank you for having us here, board.

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You pull up that mic a little, if you would.

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There you go.

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A little taller.

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There you go.

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was it heavy? No, so it wasn't very heavy. I was sitting there on the island, looking

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east that was, we, we, we didn't, trying to get home, railroad crossing came down, looked

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down at my phone, looked back up, and I saw a miss Debbie stuck behind the railroad crossing.

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Very grateful that this angel was on the other side of the tracks.

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I was not stuck on the tracks. I went over the right turn, as I usually do, I've lived in Hobesown for 22 years. Never had this happened to me, and as I turned, the gate came down, and it was behind my car. The first thing I did was try to reverse, and for some reason the gate was stuck on the top of my car behind us antenna that I have.

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I guess, in hindsight, I should have just gunned it and broken the gate and reversed, but at the time I was pretty frozen and I didn't know what to do.

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Then I thought about getting out of the car, and then I looked and I saw Josiah running over the tracks.

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It was like a moment of chariots of fire. He was like, on and going very slow and he got there and he just lifted the gate.

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So, just so grateful for him and his heroics.

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Total stranger risking his life to help me.

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And the part of this that is, it's a God experience for me

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is that when I finally asked him, you know,

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he leaned in my car, you okay and we were speaking

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and I asked him his name and he told me it was Josiah,

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which is not a real common name, and I said,

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wow, my nine-month-old grandson is Josiah also.

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So that was just, you know, it was a moment that I think

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was meant to be, and I thank God for Josiah and his

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selflessness and helping me.

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Thank you so much.

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And if we could, can we have the commissioners come in the

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welfare photo?

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It's kind of

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funny.

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But look at this.

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Oh, you get a special question.

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Especially the one for the story on the series.

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On the left side of the screen a little bit.

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No, it's gonna be fast towards the center.

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You're going, you're going.

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Everybody, have a step to your left.

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You're going, give me a little bit of the going.

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1, 2, 3.

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1, 2.

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I didn't know that they gave me a break away.

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I didn't know that they gave me a break away.

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One thing I want to do is, I don't know how to do it.

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I don't know how to do it, but I don't know how to do it.

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morning, Kevin Abbasi, Parks and Recreation Director, today the Martin County Board

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of county commissioners and the Parks Department are proud to recognize Donald

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Adamson for 40 years of dedicated service to Martin County.

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Donald began his career in 1987 when the Parks Department was still part of the public

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works department.

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During his the past four decades, he's worked throughout Martin County from our beaches to

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Western communities as become someone co-workers, residents could always count on.

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As a heavy equipment operator, Donald's work has helped build, repair, maintain, and improve

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parks, facilities, and recreation areas enjoyed by thousands of residents every day.

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His work can be found throughout Martin County, but 40 years means much more than time

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on the job.

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It represents four decades of reliability and commitment.

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Thousands of days of public, often challenging weather, serving the public, often challenging

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weather and demanding conditions.

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A lasting impact on the places where families gather, children play, and the residents enjoy the outdoors.

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Experienced in knowledge shared with generations of parks employees and a legacy of hard work,

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humility, patience, and pride for a job well done.

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Donald has always shown up with a positive attitude and willingness to help.

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He never looked for attention or recognition.

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He simply took pride in his work and supported the people around him.

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Donald, your career has a meaningful difference in our park system in this community.

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So on behalf of the Board of County Commissioners, the Parks and Recreation Department, your co-workers, and the residents of Martin County,

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thank you for your 40 years of outstanding service.

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We congratulate you on a well-earned retirement, and we wish you and your family many happy years ahead.

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Good morning. I just want to first give God thanks for this day, because if it wasn't for him, I would not be here.

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And no, I give God thanks also from a wife because she was one that actually brought me in to the county

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why she was working here. And it's been, you know, a child angel over the 40 years for the first three months that I was hired.

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Well, three months after I was hired, I've got this miss.

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But thank God, I was really hired and then after that I guess it was history.

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So I just want to give God thanks, I want to give God thanks on my coworkers for those

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that put up with me over the years, I try to get along with everybody.

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You know, I don't try to cause any problem, you know, my supervisor, I just, you know,

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we work along together and we work good, and all the call workers throughout the years,

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and I, and you know, like Kevin said, I've been pretty much, I work in every park in the

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county, everywhere doing, you know, you just tell me what you need done, and I just

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ahead and do it. So today I just want to thank each and every one, you know, that come out

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to celebrate, you know, this milestone of 40 years with the county. Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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I would add that Donald and Cookie lost their home in Hurricane Milton,

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so they've had some misfortune for

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40 years.

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We'll now take a public comment. The first request

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to speak for my have is from Charlie Bartholomey.

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And while you're on your way up,

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we still have an election season,

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even though the commission's been decided

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there are other races going on and it's all policy.

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Since we are in election cities,

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and that politicking is prohibited,

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which is defined as advocating the election

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or defeat of a candidate for public office.

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Either partisan or non-partisan,

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this includes the word state, signs, props,

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and or wearing a peril that convey a message

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of support for a person or group of persons.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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You may start it.

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And you have three minutes, but the buzzer will sign,

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when you have 15 seconds left, yes, sir.

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I'm here to represent myself.

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I hadn't planned on being here.

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Well, when I got back from the national festival,

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I got this registered letter saying from the county,

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and I had this optimistic note that maybe we were again

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get together and move forward on an issue that's been around for a few years.

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No, that's not what it was. It was a citation. Or should I say half a citation?

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This citation has about five or six hares in it.

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It only lists, anyway, you could go down at the phone numbers in correct, the driver's license is black.

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I've engaged in the business, commencing or performing work without a license, blah, blah, blah.

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The only listed one part is a lot of two, which were closed on simultaneously.

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But I'm not going to waste all that time there.

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because I'll tell you who I am, I'm a captain of 48 years on Fish and Boats.

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I've been a general manager of the gym.

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Good club in Jupiter Island. It's told a rebuild working with Palm Beach County, flawlessly seamlessly, with few problems.

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I'm a yacht broker of 26 years, I have a real estate license since 2002. I do consulting work now. I'm an author of a couple novels. I'm a blog contributor, a regulator, boats,

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and for my 60s and 70s I love to play music with my friends.

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That's who I am. This is absolutely not who I am. I have never picked up a brush. I have never hired a contractor to do work at this site.

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I am a friend of the applicant's plural.

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And so I decided to check this out and that's where we are with that.

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But this problem has been around for five or six years with these applicants and something that

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long would this kind of non-response and information kind of brings you into the picture

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of Mr. Donaldson. You kind of had game in this whole thing. Is there anything you'd like

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to share with a public regarding this? You're familiar with this issue? I am not familiar with

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issue that you're not? Well, maybe I can help you up and jog your memory. Because I have

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a letter here that you wrote to the applicants saying that the lot, the one lot, was not

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a billable lot, and that's why the doc couldn't be there. Well, my question to you is,

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How did the doc get there in 1948 as a sole standing doc on a general permit?

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Sir, your time is up.

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Thank you.

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John Tellam is next.

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Follow by Colleen Corcoran.

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Thank you, commissioners.

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I would like to thank the commissioner, Campy and John Galondo for the steadfast interest

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in this situation.

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Sir, your time is up.

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Thank you.

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We're looking for facts, looking for clarity and staying at the

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moment.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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Good morning.

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Mr. Donaldson.

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I'd like to file a formal complaint against Jeff Dodd-Tree for corruption, malfeasance, and

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business interference.

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Legal.

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Mr. Campy, I'd like to thank you for your your help, Mr. Donaldson.

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I came to you five years ago with a doctor that was blown away in a hurricane to replace.

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You not only had a commissioner, had a meeting, but you said you'd look into it.

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You haven't.

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It's been five years since I haven't been able to replace my doc.

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Hurricane season is coming.

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It's here.

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I've got a bunch of boats that are going to end up in somebody's backyard because this

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whatever it is, has not been diligent in doing what they're supposed to do, and I would

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like what else I had a bunch of things on my mind.

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Did I mention it's been five years?

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Did I mention that Mr. Donaldson?

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Five years since you've been telling me that you're going to take care of it,

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surrogress

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the board.

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I'm addressing you.

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You said you'd take care of it.

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You'd look into it.

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It's been five years.

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I believe this matter has been resolved.

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Oh, it has, for you it has, not for me.

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John, not the right approach.

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Thank you.

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Have a good day.

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Colleen Corcoran is next, followed by Victoria Blake.

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Good morning, commissioner.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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My name is Colleen Corcoran, and I volunteer and work with a magnificent volunteer

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organization.

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I'm sure you're familiar with the 10th city helpers.

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Each month, my congregation, the Treasier Coast Unitarian Universalist Church, provides funding

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so that myself and some fellow congregants can shop, cook and distribute hot meals, whom

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made hot meals to approximately 50 to 70 unhoused neighbors in Marin County.

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I'm here today to urge the sport to take decisive action on an escalating crisis, our lack

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of a designated shelter for the unhoused in Marin County.

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This is a deeply personal issue for me for two reasons. Not once, but twice, in the past six years, I was at risk for for closure. I have four kids. It was a terrifying time. Unfortunately, I was able to pull myself out of that situation. But my family and I have faced homelessness more than once. Even more disheartening, late last February, my good friend's father, and the unhealth man in Martin County, suffered a police dog attack.

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The resulting injuries went septic, killing him, traumatized by this preventable tragedy.

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Among many other contributing factors, my friend then took his own life in early June.

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As you're aware, with the enactment of House Bill, 1365, public sleeping is now illegal.

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Without a designated shelter, we force our deputies into volatile, high-friction

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confrontations with vulnerable people, including many veterans, putting officers and

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citizens in harm's way.

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Criminalizing survival shifts the human crisis entirely onto our first responders, leading

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to devastating loss of life.

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Meanwhile, our county continuously supports real estate development and surveillance tools

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like flock camera networks. If we can allocate taxpayer dollars to monitor our streets, we must

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invest in basic human infrastructure that keeps those streets safe inhumane.

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The legal roadmap under HB1365 is straightforward. The board votes to designate a specific

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parcel of county or municipal or land for a shelter. Two, if the chosen state falls within

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municipality of the city, the city council passes a matching vote of concurrence.

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Three, the county submits a plan to the Florida Department of Children of Families to

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certify safety, sanitation and security standards, and four of the county partners with

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local nonprofits, or fees, fees, providers to operate the facility.

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Following these four steps, Protect Smart and County from lawsuits, release loan enforcement

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and prevents further tragic deaths.

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I urge the sport to start this process immediately, and then let me in time to consider and

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procure some space for the baby bus.

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Thank you.

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Victoria Blake is next, followed by Susan O'Rourke.

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Good morning, everyone.

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My name is Victoria Blake and I represent tent city helpers.

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We give out every Monday and good at six different locations, providing hot meals, like

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that yesterday, you should have seen this meal, fantastic.

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I'm telling you, it's hot out there, guys.

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Last Monday and yesterday, I've never sweat like that in my life.

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I'm telling you, in places I've never sweat before.

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It's hot out there.

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So, I'm here to talk to you today about three solutions.

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We've talked about many times.

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The first option is land.

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We need land.

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Second is a dignity bus.

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We've talked about that at various times.

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And lastly, of course, we need a shelter.

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So since January, intensity helpers have served over 300 individual unhoused in Martin County.

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It caused the county our tax dollars, $171,000 per person who was unhoused annually.

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That's an annual cost.

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So the revolving door of court costs, judges' time, jail costs, ambulance costs, hospital stays, equipment,

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drones, ATVs, and even home computers.

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And the cost for police to hunt them down with dogs.

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I'm going to pause there for a second, just listen to that again.

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We're hunting him and beings dealing with dogs.

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It makes me sick to miss.

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Versus the cost of a 10 to 13,000 a year per person annually if we had a shelter.

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We're to find them housing.

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We have some folks on a regular basis in Fort Pears.

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And again, they're even a little of their own has a shelter.

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Martin County has nothing.

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So Governor Santis passed the bill.

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Bill, 1365, which says it's illegal for people to sleep

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and public places, but it mandates that counties and municipalities designate specific areas for

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public camping or sleeping. By the way, Governor DeSantis is email and I'm encouraging everybody

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to email. I'm going to put it all over the internet as much as I can. Governor Ron.deSantis

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at eog.myfloor.com. If he mandated this bill, can we ask for state funding? Can we? I mean,

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he mandated the bill. I'm Martin County is not compliant. Can we ask, Governor DeSantis?

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We're going to get a nod or something.

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Perhaps.

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All right.

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So back to the land.

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We have found two lands, property lands,

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136,000 for 7400 square lot in 45th Avenue.

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150,000 square lot, 7100 square lot, Kingfisher Avenue in Stewart, land by land, back to the

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dignity bus. The dignity bus sleeps 20 with showers, bathrooms, and air conditioning. Can

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we say, hallelujah. Commissioner DeCampi said you were going to reach out to dignity

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bus as of this morning. They haven't heard from you. So we love if you could reach out to them.

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Other areas like Palm Bay and Orlando use the dignity buses. So please, I pray every day for

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some type of action, some action, something, something, I'm going to keep coming back every two

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weeks and to we have some type of resolution.

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They deserve to be treated with respect and

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dignity. So God bless ETV with a play in the heavy on your heart that you'll do something

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please. Thank you. God bless. Thank you. Susan O'Rourke is next followed by Frank McCrystal.

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Okay, I think I'm allowed to talk since I lost. So tell me if I'm not, um, Susan O'Rourke,

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I'm happy to be here, I recently participated in the election process and I'm proud to have participated in the democratic process.

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During that process, I met a lot of people and made a lot of commitments if I was elected.

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I wanted to let you know that I'm going to keep those commitments as an unelected person on the sidelines.

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And some of the things that I talked about was assisting with updating the land development regulations as a related to transportation because they're outdated.

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I've done that, and I will get with someone in your department on to get those changed as you all feel as appropriate.

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As to the conversations going on before me, one of the things that I talked about was affordability, homelessness, and mental health in Martin County.

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I do have the time to look into that and get with people and put some information together and perhaps that will assist getting the people in the community with you all

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what would be appropriate Martin County. So I look forward to the things I committed to in the

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first 100 days doing them as on this side. So I appreciate it and look forward to working with you all.

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Thank you. Frank McCrissel's next followed by Anne Vandersteel.

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For those who have a hard time reading between the lines, the topic of this three minutes is

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firing with cause versus firing without cause in 2004, when I ran for County Commissioner

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with about three days to go, I can't came to me and say we got them.

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And they showed me information that would bury my opponent's character, it would bury

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his family, it would bury his ability to ever get a job again in this world of meeting.

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And I instantly rejected any idea of using that in this political game.

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Jesus said, pick up your sword and that sword is a truth, but there's a problem here.

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As Christian men will only go so far in this political game and to destroy another human being,

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another of God's creatures, to the point where they can never recover.

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We don't go there. We don't go there. And we all pay the price. We all pay the price for

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that every day. Now, if you want to see an example of how the other side rolls, how

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the atheist who view this world as there is, no good, there is no evil. Okay? There

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There is no good, there is no bad.

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Everyone needs to watch the final 43 minutes of the city commission meeting last night,

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where you will see an atheist publicly embarrass a very, very good man.

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That's what you'll see.

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So in the end, Jesus says, pick up your sword and that sword is a truth, but here's a thing.

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And the end we all lose, but the instructions are to keep up the fight.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And Van der Steele is next followed by Maureen Steele.

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Good morning.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm here to support a ban on hyperscale data centers in Martin County.

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It's not about the technology that I'm so concerned about at this point,

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but it's about the protection of the resources we have here in Florida.

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And I want to commend you all for doing the great job you have in keeping Martin County beautiful and trying to really work on keeping the over development and check.

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Hyperscaled data centers consume an extraordinary amount of energy.

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They require large cooling systems, occupy hundreds of acres.

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They bring substations, transmission infrastructure generators, roads, payments, all this other industrial development into communities that were never designed for this.

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We have to ask a very simple question. What are we willing to sacrifice to power this AI intelligence economy? Our water, our farms, our ranches, our electric grid, our quiet communities, our aquifers, our privacy, our children's quality of life.

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Considering the water, we depend heavily on the groundwater, and if you use, if you have hundreds of acres of pasture, farmland, forest, and open space being replaced by roofs and asphalt concrete roads and industrial infrastructure,

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Rainfall no longer penetrates the groundwater the way it does today.

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It becomes stormwater runoff.

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Less opportunity for natural groundwater recharge.

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Then there's electricity.

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These data centers require enormous amount of power,

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and residents deserve to need to know who will pay for the new generation

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the substations that transmission lines and other infrastructure.

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Florida family should not be near infrastructures,

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bearing those costs while some of the richest technology companies in the world

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farmland and ranch land getting converted into industrial computing campuses that land may never return

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to food production. We know about the beef problems right now. We can't manufacture more land. We

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cannot manufacture another aquifer. We should be going our food, raising cattle, protecting our rural

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economy, and not replacing reproductive land with giant server farms. Then there's the noise,

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the cooling systems, the chillers, fans, transformers, and generators that operate 24365.

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That means persistent tonal noise, low frequency and industrial noise that can become part of the

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environment, and then there's a surveillance state.

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Data centers are part of the physical infrastructure in an increasingly data-driven world.

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The flock's safety cameras, for instance, the license plate readers collecting all this information

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that's transmitted towards search and analyzed a lot of times inappropriately so.

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So when you add all this together, it raises a very fundamental civil liberty question.

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Are we building an infrastructure that ultimately math makes math surveillance easier,

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cheaper, and more permanent?

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Because Floridians and Martin County residents need to know who possesses their data, how long it's retained, who can search, who can share it, and whether government agencies can access it without meaningful judicial oversight.

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So, in the end, I would like to consider a ban for hyper scale data centers here in the county to keep Florida's resources protected and our civil liberties and forth amendment rights protected.

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Thank you all for all but for what you do.

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Thank you.

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Are you still as next followed by Dr. Diane Romeo?

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Hi, good morning, everyone.

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I'm following up and Vander still here regarding the hyper-scale data centers.

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I think before Martin County decides whether hyper-scale data centers belong here, we need

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to answer a much more fundamental question.

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What are we trying to preserve?

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Because once we answer that, the decision becomes remarkably simple.

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Martin County is not an industrial sacrifice zone.

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It is not an empty square on somebody's corporate expansion map and our electricity

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Our water, our land, and our quality of life are not commodities waiting for the highest bitter

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People came here and stayed here because this county still has something much

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A Florida has already lost a sense of place and you can see it here today

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There's a small town field to this county still

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And once you destroy that, you can't get it back

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A hyperscaled data center isn't simply another building.

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These facilities can demand enormous amounts of electricity,

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substantial infrastructure, and depending upon their cooling system,

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significant water resources.

452
00:38:27,070 --> 00:38:29,550
They can bring transmission, infrastructure, generators,

453
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:32,630
substations, and industrial development

454
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:35,390
that will remain long after today's promises and projections

455
00:38:35,390 --> 00:38:36,590
have been forgotten.

456
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:37,670
And for what?

457
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:40,870
These aren't factories employing thousands of local families.

458
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:46,910
One's operational hyposcale facilities are highly automated, so we should ask a very simple question

459
00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:49,330
who gets the benefit and who carries the burden.

460
00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:53,830
If a multinational corporation receives the benefit of a Martin County resident

461
00:38:53,830 --> 00:38:58,790
absorb the infrastructure, environmental pressure, utility demands, and permanent alteration

462
00:38:58,790 --> 00:39:02,410
of their community, that's not economic development, that's extraction.

463
00:39:03,250 --> 00:39:04,950
We've watched this happen all over Florida.

464
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:09,890
One development gets approved and another than another, and everyone is presented as an isolated decision

465
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:13,270
and to one morning, people look around and wonder where their Florida went.

466
00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:17,850
You are not merely deciding whether to approve data centers, you are deciding what Martin

467
00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:18,770
County will become.

468
00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:22,530
Progress doesn't mean saying, yes, everything someone is willing to build.

469
00:39:22,890 --> 00:39:28,010
Sometimes progress means having the wisdom and the courage to say, not here, not best,

470
00:39:28,210 --> 00:39:29,110
not at this cost.

471
00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:32,310
Please protect the Martin County that people entrusted to you.

472
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:33,330
Thank you.

473
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:40,770
Dr. Diane Romeo is next followed by Gale Goldie.

474
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:41,390
Good morning.

475
00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:42,070
Good morning.

476
00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:53,250
The data center may look like an ordinary warehouse, but it's an industrial-scale facility containing thousands of computer servers operating 365 days a year.

477
00:39:53,570 --> 00:39:59,950
Keeping those servers operating can require enormous amounts of electricity, sophisticated cooling system.

478
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Systems, water, and banks of generators capable of supplying power when necessary. Before allowing

479
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,440
a facility of this magnitude to be built near homes and families, we believe one fundamental

480
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:18,540
question must be answered. Can the development demonstrate that this particular data center

481
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:25,200
will not create unacceptable risk to the surrounding community? Data centers commonly use stationary

482
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:32,680
combustion engines or turbines for primary backup power. The U.S. EPA specifically recognizes

483
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,880
these as potential sources of air emission that may require regulation under the Clean Air Act.

484
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,940
Excuse me, however they are going to generate energy. Will they use small nuclear reactors?

485
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:50,540
If they use diesel combustion, this can produce nitrogen oxide,

486
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:56,180
Particulate matter and other pollutants, research has shown that large banks of diesel

487
00:40:56,180 --> 00:41:00,260
backed up generators can affect air quality near the data center.

488
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:05,980
For nearby residents, commissioners should know exactly what pollutants they will emit.

489
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Will the air quality be the same at the nearest homes and worst at the furthest homes?

490
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:19,440
What is another important concern, depending upon the cooling technology use, data centers

491
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,240
can consume substantial amounts of water.

492
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:29,840
Large cooling systems, generators, electrical equipment, construction activity, and increased

493
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,780
traffic will also create noise and other disturbances.

494
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,920
These impacts are especially important when an industrial facility is being proposed near

495
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,420
established residential communities.

496
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,460
Residents should not have to discover these consequences after the project has been approved

497
00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:54,100
and built. Adding another major industrial operation to an established community deserves

498
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:59,700
careful consideration. My request to the commissioners, the burden should be on the

499
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:05,160
developer to provide independent, credible evidence demonstrating that the proposed facility

500
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:11,240
will not create unacceptable impacts on air quality. What are resources, noise level,

501
00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:17,300
electrical infrastructure, property values and public health, or the overall quality of the

502
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:22,620
surrounding residents. Once a project of this magnitude is constructed, some

503
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:28,140
consequences may be difficult, expensive, expensive, or even impossible to

504
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:30,720
reverse. Thank you. Thank you.

505
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,620
Gail Goldie is next followed by Yamilah.

506
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:44,190
Good morning commissioners. It's great to

507
00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:47,830
be here and it's great to see everyone so bright and wishy-tailed this morning.

508
00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:53,650
This is just a little follow-up on the data center and this is about

509
00:42:53,650 --> 00:43:00,090
how water gets contaminated. Data centers can discharge or leak chemical pollutants into local

510
00:43:00,090 --> 00:43:07,750
water systems if wastewater is poorly managed or treated. Data center cooling systems require

511
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:14,550
chemical attitudes to prevent system corrosion, mineral scaling and algae or bacteria growth.

512
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:23,270
When this water is discharged, often called blow down water, or if it leaks a car, it can produce

513
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:30,490
several substances into the environment. Chemical additives, biosides, chlorine compounds, and

514
00:43:30,490 --> 00:43:37,570
corrosion inhibitors are added to cooling loops and can remain in wastewater. Forever chemicals,

515
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:47,190
some specialized coolants or non-water liquid cooling setups may contain PFAS or fluorinated

516
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:54,230
heavy metals, trace amounts of copper zinc and lead can reach into the water as internal

517
00:43:54,230 --> 00:44:02,710
metal components degrade, concentrated metals, concentrated minerals evaporated, cooling

518
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:10,450
causes natural minerals and total dissolves solids in the water to concentrate to much higher

519
00:44:10,450 --> 00:44:11,030
levels.

520
00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:16,830
You know, we're talking about something that is in the future, these data centers, data centers

521
00:44:16,830 --> 00:44:24,330
are closing so much anxiety and health issues already before they're even built and used.

522
00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:29,830
A lot of people are worried and concerned and rightfully so.

523
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:37,690
So I think that as commissioners, it's imperative that you do your homework, you listen,

524
00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:45,810
and you dig very, very deep to find out exactly what the repercussions of having data centers

525
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:51,710
would be and how harmful it could be to our community. Thank you. Thank you.

526
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:59,960
Yeah, I'm Elias next. Followed by James Fishback and Mr. Fishback is the last.

527
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:13,520
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Buenos dias.

528
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,880
Buenos dias. My name is Yamilano Yangiscalona. You already know who I am, the executive director of

529
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,300
IUP or BDAS, serving your Martin County residents. Before I continue though out of respect,

530
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,960
I kindly ask that y'all put down your phones and listen actively, just saying, I also want to

531
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,900
recognize that aside from myself and the audience today are subject matter experts from

532
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:38,800
intensity helpers and people with lived experience who are directly impacted by the housing

533
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,420
plans you are about to discuss today. Especially as we are in the midst of overdose awareness

534
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:51,520
week. We should be consulted on this. The L-H-A-P governs Martin County's ship programming

535
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,920
for the next three years. These are the funds that are meant to address the housing crisis we

536
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,900
see on our streets every single day. Yeah, I haven't seen anything in the revised exhibits indicating

537
00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:05,120
that people who lived experience were involved in shaping these procedures.

538
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:07,040
I want to flag two things.

539
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,280
First, we did promise that we were going to file the FOIA, which we did last week,

540
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,980
asking for a full opioid abatement fund spent break down from the MCSO.

541
00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:19,680
On the state's own website, MCSO received another massive award under prevention.

542
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,280
We need to know exactly what that money was spent on, because if it went to surveillance cameras

543
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,260
instead of housing an overdose response, that is a misuse of funds and a violation

544
00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:30,100
of the spirit of the settlement.

545
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Second, human services is a low-responded department in this budget I mentioned it last time.

546
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,940
There is no shelter lying item.

547
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,900
The L-Hop governs how housing funds are allocated and if grassroots organizations like

548
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:47,000
ours, density helpers, and people in lived experience are not at the table when these

549
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,580
plans are written, then the plans do not reflect the community's needs.

550
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,600
I'm asking this board to do three things before proving the 2026 to 2029 L-Hop.

551
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:03,940
One, hold the public workshop outside of the previous budget workshops already held, where constituents can review the exhibits and provide proper input.

552
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:13,020
Two, convene a lived experience panel, invite the unhousing individuals and outreach workers in this room to advise on ship funds allocation priorities.

553
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:22,720
Three, wait for the FOIA results that we have asked for from the MCSO, in regards to the opioid abatement fund spending before finalizing any housing-related budget items.

554
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:27,840
These are all three year plans. The community deserves more than just a rubber stand from y'all.

555
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:34,020
We're here. We're ready to help use us and consider opening this item for additional discussion,

556
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,740
which Tiampi, thank you for that. Hopefully we are talking about it today.

557
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,460
As we pulled it for regular agenda, we're here to discuss. Thank you.

558
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:45,540
Thank you.

559
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:59,720
James Fishback is next. And Mr. Fishback is the last request to speak form. If you would like to address this, please fill out a request to speak form and get it to the bailiff. Good morning.

560
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:01,360
Good morning.

561
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,660
I've spent the last nine months across crossing every last corner of the state.

562
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:16,840
We spent two visits here holding town halls in Martin County and I can tell you there is a real frustration with the prospect of a data center being built here.

563
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:23,000
We can talk at length about how it would drive up electric bills, how it would jeopardize the water supply.

564
00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:30,340
But oftentimes we should go to square one. Why a data center in the first place?

565
00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:37,620
Often times, questioning every last assumption can get us closer to the truth.

566
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:42,880
Not his version of the truth, or her version of the truth, certainly not they them's version

567
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,560
of the truth.

568
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:46,540
But the truth singular.

569
00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:51,420
My grandfather was a professor at Florida, Atlantic University for 20 years in computer science.

570
00:48:52,020 --> 00:48:56,320
And when he was building computers back in the 1970s and 80s, they would occupy a room

571
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:57,460
like this.

572
00:48:57,460 --> 00:49:03,460
Then, the breakthrough of the 90s was the computer could sit on a desk, then that same computer

573
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:07,580
could go in your pocket, and now it can exist on a watch.

574
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,860
We have to ask ourselves, despite all of the drawbacks of data centers.

575
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:15,880
Are there really any upsides?

576
00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:21,220
Are there upsides to build a data center that we're now being told the internet won't work

577
00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:25,860
Unless there's a two million square foot facility built just outside of our neighborhood.

578
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:32,940
Netflix, email, chat, GPT will suddenly shut down unless Martin County residents

579
00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:38,800
accept higher electric bills, lower water pressure, and lower property values.

580
00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:46,520
It is incumbent upon this commission to ask those questions. To ask why we know the downsides

581
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:52,960
of a data center, but the upsides that are being spawned by both a left and the right on a

582
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:59,480
data center being necessary when we already have 12 times as many data centers in this country

583
00:49:59,480 --> 00:49:59,960
than China.

584
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,600
It does. When we are told that there is an A.I. arms race between the United States and China, even though

585
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:13,980
the average American couldn't name a Chinese A.I. company, while we have Nvidia, OpenI, X, and

586
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:19,780
in Theropic. We have to remember that the same speculative excesses that drove us off a cliff

587
00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:28,100
during the 0708 bubble seem to be at work today. And so, before we drone on about the obvious

588
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:33,200
drawbacks of data centers. It makes sense to question whether there is any real

589
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,740
upsides and whether the same obsolescence that came for large-scale warehouse

590
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:42,540
computers that then came for desktop computers that made computational

591
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:47,060
technology smaller and more efficient. Whether the data centers of today that

592
00:50:47,060 --> 00:50:52,340
claim necessity may be obsolete tomorrow. Thank you very much. Thank you.

593
00:50:57,620 --> 00:51:02,480
Commissioners, is there interest in having a presentation on more

594
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,300
tourism on data centers?

595
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,660
Mr. Campy.

596
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Thank you very much.

597
00:51:07,980 --> 00:51:08,740
Interesting morning.

598
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,520
Obviously, we had no idea who was going to come and speak on what

599
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,040
topics.

600
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:19,360
The concept and the conversation of data centers has been obviously

601
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,600
everyone's been hearing about it.

602
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:25,380
So I had begun my research and homework if you will.

603
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:33,420
I reached out to the Florida Association of Counties to find out what are other counties in the state doing, where would we fall sort of in the timeline.

604
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:40,960
And the information that I received back and I wanted to thank Ginger Delagola and her staff for helping me put this together.

605
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:48,220
They sent a really comprehensive spreadsheet that I will share with my colleagues and Mr. Dawson.

606
00:51:49,300 --> 00:52:14,780
Current more at 67 counties in Florida, current counties with more atoriums 19, counties that are outright banned, data centers, seven, counties that are either in consideration or have the more atorium pending, 12, counties that have taken no action, meaning they have yet to get to the point of 26,

607
00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:23,740
And counties that have discussed the issue of a moratorium and or a ban, and rejected it three.

608
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,780
That gets you to the 67.

609
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:36,640
So if you do the simple math, there are 38 counties that either have one, have banned it, or are considering banning it.

610
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,600
Not banning it, they're having the moratorium.

611
00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:45,960
All of us, we just heard some very compelling arguments this morning, and obviously there's

612
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:52,200
no one here for the other side of the issue, if you will, and I believe like almost every

613
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,980
topic, there are two sides, maybe three left right, you know, their side, your side, and

614
00:52:56,980 --> 00:53:02,980
this, and the middle, so I'm not opposed, and had planned on bringing this up this morning

615
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:11,180
anyway, so the sort of kismit that I would make a motion to request that our staff bring

616
00:53:11,180 --> 00:53:18,600
an item forward that would research and study the effects of the data centers in unincorporated

617
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Martin County, what they would mean for our environment, what they would mean for our economy,

618
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,700
and what they would mean for societally. I'm not saying that it is something that we would

619
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:37,100
do, but I think it is a fresh new topic that most people are still trying to wrap their brains

620
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:44,120
around. I think there is a lot of misinformation that is out there. It's I always say,

621
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,480
no matter what the topic is, I always believe that it's much easier to scare people than it

622
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:55,160
is to reassure them. So with that in mind, as one of the five, I'm interested in hearing

623
00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:02,360
more about the process, but in the meantime I think it's appropriate that we sort of just take

624
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:09,440
a pause to legitimately do what a lot of our speakers asked us to do. Research it. Research

625
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,820
it on your own. We can research it as a community. We can research it as civil community

626
00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:21,880
organizations and then we'll find our way. I thought the last speaker was very articulate

627
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:28,720
But when he's asking us, let's look at the benefits of a data center, I'm not a data center expert,

628
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:37,380
but we know them, and I think that there's a lot of information that is presented on social media platforms

629
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:44,600
that even if it looks tremendously compelling might not be specifically accurate.

630
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,360
So, all I'm asking is that we ask staff to bring forward that issue so that we can sort

631
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,100
of calm the discourse down.

632
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:59,360
Let the community, there's, you know, like-minded people can disagree, but I don't think

633
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,960
there is a lot-

634
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,720
A lot of data center experts out there. It's a relatively new phenomenon.

635
00:55:06,980 --> 00:55:13,600
I'm willing to listen and have an open mind in the conversation. So that would be my motion.

636
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:14,760
Mr. Vargas.

637
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:22,960
I'm glad this was brought up this morning because this is Choker Block full of talking points.

638
00:55:23,980 --> 00:55:30,200
I've been studying data centers since I came into office, which is, really, early 2025.

639
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:38,320
That's why I attend the conferences for the FAC Florida Association of Counties, National Association of Counties, also.

640
00:55:39,460 --> 00:55:46,820
I did meet an expert there, a fellow commissioner from Loudon County, Virginia, which is the epicenter of data centers.

641
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:57,380
I have looked at numerous webcasts spoken with individuals individually to get their opinion.

642
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,260
And then maybe there's somebody else's opinion, but really what is the truth about this?

643
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,480
I think that all of the speakers that addressed data centers were very articulate.

644
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:21,740
They had their facts in order, they are not fear-mongering, this is a known, and this is something that could change the look and the feel of our county forever.

645
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:29,860
So, I was going to ask also that we take a hard pause on data centers.

646
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,120
This is the courageous thing to do, we're not being pulled in this direction by other

647
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,660
masters.

648
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,980
I work for the people of Martin County.

649
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:39,160
I do.

650
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,560
So therefore I'm still doing my homework and I will not.

651
00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:50,400
I will not give up on this until I'm absolutely certain and I'm so far from being

652
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:57,260
certain at this point. It's an ongoing discussion. We need to have a moreatorium, a hard

653
00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,160
pause.

654
00:57:00,820 --> 00:57:08,950
Commissioner Heather, thank you. I agree with Commissioner Campy outline some comments

655
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:15,650
where I would second your motion to have a presentation and bring us all of the information

656
00:57:15,650 --> 00:57:21,970
and I would add that in that presentation we outline because there's been a lot of talk

657
00:57:21,970 --> 00:57:33,010
about SB484 and what regulatory authority counties and cities have in regulating land use

658
00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:39,990
compatibility and environmental impacts, those things, and what it doesn't grant.

659
00:57:40,210 --> 00:57:46,240
I would also ask you to bring back during the presentation, any kind of limitations that

660
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:59,040
be 180 has in the impact or the or a moratorium per se. And then I would also ask that we bring

661
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,180
back some information. One thing I actually have been reading and if you followed Florida

662
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:08,540
Power and Lights rate case and some of the implementations which have not, I give them a lot of

663
00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:14,620
credit because this has not been done all throughout the country and Florida Power and Light

664
00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:18,500
really did when they were, um, impact, when they were doing this

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ray case, they put a large load user tariff on so that large load

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users for energy pay their way. So I think that would be important to

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include because I think that's an important, um, educational

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fact for the community to hear about. Thank you. Commissioner

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caps. As I understand, Commissioner

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campus motion is basically a motion to bring for research and information. And while that

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is very lovable, I think the motion should be stronger than that. And I know there's

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a motion in a second.

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Wait, let me clarify my motion then, please.

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Okay. Go ahead.

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I must have missed the point for some folks. I didn't know if legally we can take an unagended

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item and ask for moratorium today. I was trying to be appropriate to say I want staff to bring

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forward and agenda item for a moratorium.

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Giving us the opportunity to have that year to then

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bring forward the experts and the opinions and have it, but we have to push the pause button first.

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I don't want it to be free-wheeling while we're doing this. I want a moratorium for one year,

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a majority of the counties in Florida, either have it or will, that's my point.

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I just didn't, I know sometimes we get ourselves into trouble when we say, I make a

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motion that we have a moratorium.

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I want our legal staff to have the opportunity to bring forward an agenda item for a moratorium

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that gives us that one.

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1 year opportunity to hear these things and to understand more carefully. This is, you know, we're not subject matter experts up here. There are. There's not a lot of them, but I'm interested in hearing from them. But in the meantime, before this thing gets sideways, I'm interested in a pause which the word they're using is moratorium. A couple of counties had different phrase-eology for it. That's what I want, and then we can enter into the conversation. I don't want to be...

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chasing the car as it goes down the road.

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That's what I meant.

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Mr. Caps.

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Could we clarify that just a little bit more

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by saying that you're making a motion

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to have the County Attorney prepare an ordinance

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or a resolution to have a one-year moratorium?

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Is that basically the same thing as your thing?

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Yes.

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OK, I'll support that.

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When I wanted to add, it's not hard and fast when you're, if we have to continue looking at more information, because this is an evolving subject.

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I do not get my information from social media, especially something as serious as this.

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I go to the experts. There are plenty of experts that are out there, but you have to do your homework, and you really can't be lax.

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talking about our commission. You got to reach out. Go to the conferences. Talk to people. They're out there.

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Commissioner Heather region. Yes. My question would be to the county attorney. Does SB 180? No. I completely agree with a presentation.

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But if you shape it as the word moratorium, I believe that SB 180, and I would look to you to provide legal counsel.

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It expressly says, more historians of any type of construction, reconstruction, or prohibited in the affected zone.

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So, I would cautiously, before we brought back, I would rather have a presentation.

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They didn't have the word, more atonement there because of the language and SB 180.

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So, we can dissect that at the next agenda item, but just generally speaking, Senate Bill 180

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does restrict counties, but Senate Bill 484 was enacted after Senate Bill 180.

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And in there, there's language that says that the legislature intends that such considerations

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shall be addressed through local comprehensive planning and land development regulations and

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encourages local governments to enact legislation or ordinances for data centers, so if

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you read the two bills together, the latter one usually would kind of provide an avenue for

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local governments to do the moratorium, that's what most of the counties who have enacted moratoriums

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are relying on that the second bill says we can do this. But we can dissect that more and talk about

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at the agenda either. Are you saying that SB 484 overrides SB 180 and allows for more

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touring on data center? It doesn't say that specifically, but the argument would be if we

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did get sued and went to court that you have to read the bills together concurrently.

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And Senate Bill 180 would make Senate Bill 484 meaningless basically if it contradicted it.

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So, again, I would have to look into the issue dissective, but that's the general consensus.

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There is still a slight chance that someone can sue under Senate Bill 180, but there are

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arguments also in favor of the moratorium.

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It's a gray area.

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01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:43,960
I mean, it's not clear by the legislation, honestly.

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So then, with that, I would rather hear a presentation on what Canon can be done and not

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have a motions all with through all my second because I would rather have a presentation and

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not a motion that directs us to move into a moratorium.

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So if we do do an ordinance on a moratorium, it requires two public hearings also, most likely

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under the statute because you're changing the permitted uses in a zoning category.

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So it would require two public hearings on the ordinance.

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And you'll bring back both the information on the SB 484 and SB 180.

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Yes, okay. Commissioner Caps. I will I will second commissioner campus motion. There's a motion in a second all those in favor.

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I opposed both that motion passes forward in one with commissioner feathering 10%.

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Thank you. We will now take up our 930 preset, which is a 4-H presentation on protecting our land. Mr. Hathner, you want to introduce this item?

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:25,020
Good morning. The morning chair heard commissioners. My name is David Haftier and I'm your University of Florida, Ifis Martin County extension for age agent. Today, the Martin County 4H is proud to share the result of a partnership between the Smithsonian Institution and Martin County 4H. This program is called the Stories 4H History. Through this program, our youth were challenged to look at their own community through a different lens.

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not simply as a place where they live, but community with history, important stories,

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and people who have helped shape its future. Our youth selected a local story, conducted research,

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developed interview questions, and spoke with members of our community who could help them

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understand that story. Along the way, they learned about local history, civic engagement,

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interviewing, research, storytelling, and the importance of listening to different perspectives.

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Most importantly, they learn that history isn't just something found in a textbook.

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History is being created every day by the people in our own community.

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The project culminated in the video you're about to see.

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It represents the research, conversations, and experiences of our 4-H members as they

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work to tell the story that they felt was important to Martin County.

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As you watch, I encourage you to look beyond the finished project, product, and consider

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of what these young people learned through the process.

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Following the video, two of our youth participants

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will share what they learned through participating

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in the stories for each history project.

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Thank you.

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01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:45,880
Martin County has long been known for its open spaces,

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:47,280
farms, and ranchlinks.

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But its development continues to grow

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01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,580
more of this land as a risk of disappearing.

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This raises an important question.

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How could we preserve the land

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that supports our environment, wildlife, and local history?

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Agriculture has been an important part

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,800
of Martin County's landscape for generations.

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Today, the county still contains nearly 180,000 acres of farmland

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across about 588 farms.

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Some of this land is not being protected

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through conservation programs.

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For example, full-handic ranch at Colorado Ranch

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of one of the 5,800 acres

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was recently approved for a conservation easement

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and during the land, we're made open

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while continuing to operate as a working ranch.

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To learn more about agriculture's role in land preservation,

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we spoke with Mr. West Carlton at full-handic ranch.

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Would you mind introducing yourself?

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,840
My name is Guest Farrell Tinnon or Bohemic Grant.

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01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:36,960
Could you tell us a little bit about conservation efforts that happened on Bohemic

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,160
Grudge?

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Bohemic cast several different conservation efforts.

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The first one was a water project on the east side of the ramp.

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Confises about 2,000 acres of water storage on natural wetlands and natural footprint.

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And then we did about a 70 acre water reservoir here.

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The capture is offsite water.

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and then Bohemic Ranch, this recently also did a professor of policemen,

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what you see today, what it looked like, forever.

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,220
Could you tell us about some of that environment,

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,560
the practices on your rare?

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,960
25 years ago, 30 years ago, maybe, a group of us got together

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and created the first BMP manual for the State of Florida.

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And it was forecast.

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And that sense has gone through many revisions.

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And now there's BMPs for citrus, gall,

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our industry vegetables and its reviewed by F-DAC's Department of Agriculture and D.P. Department of

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Environmental Protection.

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Could you explain the importance of this land being preserved?

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01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,680
It breaks my heart to see what's happened on the state lands.

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,160
It's just an exotic wasteland of pepper trees and coconut grass.

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My motto is always been, I want to look better when I leave than when I took charge.

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So thank you. Nice having you.

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after speaking with Mr. West Carlton,

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we saw how conservation easements can protect working lands

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from development while making a possible

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for a ranch to remain productive.

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To better understand how land is preserved in Martin County,

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we spoke with Michael Houston,

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a senior project manager in the Martin County Environmental

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Research Division.

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01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:05,140
Thank you for meeting with me,

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01:09:05,260 --> 01:09:06,440
would you like to introduce yourself?

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01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:07,360
Sure, absolutely.

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And thank you for coming down to interview me today.

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,520
My name is Michael Houston.

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I am a senior project manager in the Martin County Environmental

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resource division. And my job through this process is I help to

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01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:25,840
shepherd properties from being nominated and submitted for

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,140
potential acquisition through our process to get them approved for

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01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:33,200
sales tax funding. So what factors do the E-law consider when deciding

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:38,160
what lands to prioritize just plants that are available? So when we originally

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,620
set up the sales tax initiative, we wrote a manual and established procedures

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for how lands would go from being nominated to being approved for acquisition.

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01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:55,520
And in that, it included having environmental assessments done from a group called the Ford

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,660
and Natural Air is inventory, who works with the state land conservation programs.

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So they would do environmental assessments that we have a citizen advisory board that then reviews and evaluates those properties and makes recommendations in terms of whether or not we should acquire the lands or not and kind of ranks and prioritizes by how environmentally sensitive and how much value it has.

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They had 16 properties that they evaluate, 10,000 acres. Based on that, we now have a list that got approved by the kind of commissioners and now we're going out to acquire.

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01:10:29,780 --> 01:10:34,460
those properties. So it's a whole process to get us to the point where we can even make offers

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01:10:34,460 --> 01:10:39,980
and try and acquire these lands. So in your opinion which land is better to preserve agricultural

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01:10:39,980 --> 01:10:46,000
native lands? I wouldn't really speak to that. They all have values in different ways. You know,

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01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:52,080
conservation lands are important because they protect native wild habitat and keep native

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01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:58,500
habitats native but these agricultural areas are also important because they help to protect

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01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:03,660
law like quarters, you're still having conservation values on these properties as well.

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So that's a tough thing to come out and say what one preference would be or another.

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01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,040
Thank you for meeting with me. Speaking with Michael Houston,

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gave us a much clearer understanding of how land preservation works in Marm County,

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01:11:16,580 --> 01:11:19,300
and the process required to protect these lands for the future.

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01:11:19,740 --> 01:11:23,400
Preserving land is not only important for agriculture, but also for protecting natural

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ecosystems and wildlife habitats.

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Learn more about why curving natural landsmatters.

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Be spoke with Merit Matheson.

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,840
Are you on your knees too, sir?

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01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:32,640
Yes.

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,320
I'm Merit Matheson.

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I'm one of the members of the environmental and the other safety committee.

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,500
Would you explain a little bit about what the Indian River Keeper is?

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:47,440
So, the Indian River Keeper is part of the worldwide organization of Water Keeper's Alliance,

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,180
or non-profit Rubibon Tears, which worked to protect water quality.

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,560
What are the benefits of preserving land?

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:01,260
Preserving land is critical for the health not only of that land, but of waterways all around this.

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01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:04,220
What are the biggest threats that impact in here ever again?

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,460
So, some of the biggest threats here are non-napled disorders from Lake Ope Chobie.

845
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:13,580
So any disorders from Lake Ope Chobie wouldn't actually come into this estuary?

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01:12:14,180 --> 01:12:18,080
Some of the other problems are really sea grass degradation.

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:25,160
Your Seagrass help hold down the sediment on bottom of the goon and it also helps filter out

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,920
much nutrients by having that juvenile fish and food.

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01:12:29,260 --> 01:12:35,200
If you lose your immune system in a water body, it takes hits from storm events, from

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,220
discharged from Lake Oak Chovey.

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01:12:37,260 --> 01:12:42,140
And those hits are hard on the liveoon end of itself, it's kind of a cascading effect down.

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01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:49,780
So really focusing on water quality, letting sea grafts rebound, helps ensure clean water throughout the

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01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:55,020
McGu. How has these river-looking have we changed from when you started with the in-eater of a

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01:12:55,020 --> 01:13:01,920
tubers? At the Lagoon has changed, we've lost significance amounts of sea grafts, they have problems

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:09,340
with water quality, and we have problems with mock layers throughout in your Lagoon, which kind of

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01:13:09,340 --> 01:13:13,160
form an anaerobic layer where nothing can really grow.

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01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,960
Seagrass can't get established, it's almost like an who's.

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,300
So the intervolution has changed significantly over my lifetime.

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01:13:20,860 --> 01:13:24,240
What are the things people can do to pack the Indian River

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,700
like you and having motorways?

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01:13:25,980 --> 01:13:29,820
Helping protect our waterways can easily start with small changes.

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01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:34,060
It encourages us to not use fertilizers on our law of strength, the wet season,

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01:13:34,340 --> 01:13:38,540
starting June 1st and lasting till at the end of November.

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01:13:38,540 --> 01:13:45,840
I'll be no wait zones, pause to which turbidity and area, and arm C-Graph not to run your

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01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,500
prop through a grass bed.

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01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:51,440
It'll go walk it carefully off of the grass bed.

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After talking with Merit Matheson, we came away with the better understanding of how much

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,740
natural land's do for Martin County.

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,560
He showed us that protecting these spaces means protecting the wildlife, ecosystems, and natural

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,520
balance of the community.

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01:14:04,220 --> 01:14:08,760
Through this project, we learned that land preservation in Martin County depends on many different

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,760
people working together. Farmers, ranchers, environmental staff, and conservation groups

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,100
each way of different roles in protected land, wildlife, and natural spaces that shape our community.

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01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:21,400
Agriculture is not only part of Martin County's history, but also part of its future.

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01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:25,900
Preserving working land helps protect open spaces while allowing the land to continue serving

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01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:30,840
an important purpose. As members of our community, we can use our voices by learning about local

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,960
issues asking questions ensuring what we discover with others.

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,760
As America marks 250 years of independence, this project is a reminder that communities

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,500
have always been shaped by people who stay informed, get involved, and work to protect

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01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:43,600
what matters most.

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:06,500
My name is Kayla Glancy, and as you saw, I'd mainly played the role of interviewer during our video project this year.

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:13,200
I would have to say that one of the things I learned most about was how to be adaptable and change my plan as I went.

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:18,260
But I also learned a lot about how to communicate professionally and in the most efficient way possible.

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:27,920
I'm especially grateful for the opportunity I got to actually set up one of the interviews we did as that was what truly allowed me to develop these skills.

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,180
Furthermore, I spent a lot of time researching the process through which my and is

886
01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:38,020
preserved here in Mark County this year and I learned just how simple it can be for

887
01:15:38,020 --> 01:15:42,400
an idea to turn into an initiative and how I can get involved in the things that are important

888
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:48,240
to me. In the future, I'm hoping to further develop these skills by taking on leadership roles

889
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:54,120
through 4-H. And in the next year of this project, I'm hoping to take on a new role through

890
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,980
video project to allow my peers to learn in the same way I did and develop a new set of

891
01:16:00,340 --> 01:16:00,880
Thank you.

892
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:01,340
Thank you.

893
01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:02,840
Very good.

894
01:16:05,410 --> 01:16:06,290
Morning commissioners.

895
01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:10,150
My name is Ian Bersondon and I want to thank you for the opportunity to let me speak

896
01:16:10,150 --> 01:16:10,850
in front of you today.

897
01:16:11,610 --> 01:16:16,710
I mainly worked, I mainly worked on the editing and production of this video after filming

898
01:16:16,710 --> 01:16:17,310
the interviews.

899
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:20,470
I went through all the footage and started putting the video together.

900
01:16:20,930 --> 01:16:24,470
There's a lot of footage to go through, so I had to decide which parts of the interviews

901
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:30,330
to use, which questions were worth including and how to organize everything.

902
01:16:30,730 --> 01:16:34,510
From there I worked on the music, audio, visuals, and the final edit.

903
01:16:35,490 --> 01:16:40,030
I've edited for a while, but most of my previous work has been quite different from this.

904
01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:45,110
I hadn't worked much on long-form interviews or documentary style videos, so this gave

905
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:49,370
me an experience, this gave me experience with an area of production that was new to me.

906
01:16:50,370 --> 01:16:54,450
Before this project, I also didn't know much about land preservation, but through the interviews

907
01:16:54,450 --> 01:16:59,610
research we did, I learned about the importance of conservation easements and the role agricultural

908
01:16:59,610 --> 01:17:04,970
land can have in limiting future development. And because we were interviewing people who are

909
01:17:04,970 --> 01:17:09,830
directly involved with this in Martin County, we were able to learn about how it works locally.

910
01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:14,670
I can see myself using the skills and knowledge I gained from this project in the future,

911
01:17:15,250 --> 01:17:19,830
especially when it comes to interviews and longer form video. It gave me a chance to take the editing

912
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:23,030
and production work I already do and apply it in a different setting.

913
01:17:23,870 --> 01:17:25,890
While also being able to contribute to our community,

914
01:17:26,530 --> 01:17:29,890
thank you commissioners for your time and for the opportunity to share

915
01:17:29,890 --> 01:17:30,950
our project with you.

916
01:17:31,050 --> 01:17:31,550
Thank you.

917
01:17:32,110 --> 01:17:32,910
Very professional.

918
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,280
So I think one of the most powerful things about this project is that our young people

919
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,880
didn't simply learn about Martin County.

920
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:42,840
They connected with it.

921
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:45,260
This was them leading.

922
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:46,840
This was they created this.

923
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,160
This was them picking the topic.

924
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,920
This was them developing the research, the questions,

925
01:17:50,920 --> 01:18:06,620
with my guidance but this is their project and they met people who invested their time in knowledge to making this community what it is today and it began to understand that they too have a responsibility and an opportunity to contribute.

926
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:12,780
The stories for each history you might not use that they don't have to wait until they are adults to make a difference.

927
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:17,040
They are already part of the Martin County difference right now.

928
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:22,660
And as for each, that's exactly what we hope to accomplish, helping young people understand

929
01:18:22,660 --> 01:18:27,080
where they come from, recognize the role they play today, and become the leaders who will

930
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,540
help shape where our community goes tomorrow.

931
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,100
Just wanted to add two last things.

932
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:40,780
One, it was heard by Commissioner Hurt, when we were choosing the E-lock, immediately, when

933
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:44,980
agriculture was brought up, who's going to represent agriculture on the E-lock, 4-H came out

934
01:18:44,980 --> 01:18:45,440
immediately.

935
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:50,500
And I took that and as it is very important to me as I was very proud that forage was brought up.

936
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,520
So these numbers are have attended meetings, they are involved in that process.

937
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,700
So forage is definitely on that board.

938
01:18:57,620 --> 01:18:59,960
And then two, these kids did such a great job.

939
01:19:00,420 --> 01:19:04,140
This project is judged and critiqued by the educators at the Smithsonian.

940
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:13,220
They had received very high scores and they have been requested to present a couple of different conferences that the Smithsonian is putting on.

941
01:19:13,220 --> 01:19:15,960
So this is being recognized nationally.

942
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:17,340
It's a great job.

943
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:18,560
Very professional.

944
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,600
We should have can't be.

945
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:21,700
Thank you.

946
01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:22,560
Thank you, David.

947
01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:26,940
First off, Miss, I thought even while I was watching the video

948
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:30,840
that your questions were perfect, really like probing.

949
01:19:31,220 --> 01:19:34,540
And sir, as I was watching it, you put her up in the corner.

950
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,920
So we could see her talking, but you still kept.

951
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:39,660
And then you were using some split screen techniques

952
01:19:39,660 --> 01:19:41,580
that I have no idea how you did it.

953
01:19:41,780 --> 01:19:43,000
But I did notice it.

954
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:52,000
So my request a Mr. Donaldson, if it's okay with the content creators that produce this,

955
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,920
is there any way that we can run their video on Channel 20.

956
01:19:56,740 --> 01:19:59,960
On the Martin County Television Channel, it was I thought it'd be on it being your-

957
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:12,320
For a project, I thought it was a, you know, we get an opportunity to hear lots of people explain this process and how important it is and I thought yours was concise, clear, entertaining, informative.

958
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,480
So if you're willing to share it, we would love to put it on Channel 20.

959
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:17,440
Is it proprietary?

960
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:19,060
Excellent.

961
01:20:19,620 --> 01:20:20,340
They can go there.

962
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,360
So professional, so mature, it's just lovely. We're very, very proud of it.

963
01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:25,900
Very well done. Congratulations.

964
01:20:26,260 --> 01:20:27,140
Thank you.

965
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:39,840
commissioners will now take up commissioner comments commissioner Heatherington. Yes, I'll I wanted to

966
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,700
First congratulate commissioner heard on reelection this year and

967
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:52,860
Also, I will congratulate I will be turning the page and moving on to a different part of my life

968
01:20:52,860 --> 01:20:58,600
And it's been my pleasure and honor to serve for the last eight years here

969
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:04,800
I'll be here until November. We won't be working diligently with our constituents in District 2.

970
01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:10,020
I'll congratulate Christopher Collins who will be my successor in November.

971
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:15,420
And thank all of the candidates who put themselves out there to run.

972
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,000
I remember the first time I've actually been on both sides of the coin. I've won and I've lost.

973
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,480
And the first year that I ran, I was not successful.

974
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:26,020
And I said, I will never do that again.

975
01:21:26,020 --> 01:21:47,740
And here I am, eight years later, so 12 years total, so thank you for to the candidates who put themselves out there because it is on easy process campaigning and so congratulations to all, also congratulations to our city of Stuart candidates who were successful as well as the village of Indian town.

976
01:21:47,740 --> 01:21:57,560
So congratulations, and I look forward to working with all of you now until November, and afterward on the private side.

977
01:21:58,340 --> 01:21:59,200
Mr. Kambi.

978
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,300
Thank you very much. First of all, I'd like to thank Commissioner Heatherington for her years of service.

979
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,620
I know that deciding to not run again is a big deal.

980
01:22:10,620 --> 01:22:17,760
But with, I was going to say, two young sons, I guess in the scheme of things, they are still very young,

981
01:22:17,860 --> 01:22:22,800
but I knew them when you originally showed up, they were children, and now they're young men.

982
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:28,360
So, and I know you have a remarkable policy of traveling all over the world with them.

983
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:33,860
So, I look forward to seeing how you continue to do that.

984
01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:39,840
Commissioner heard congratulations I think most people realize but if they don't

985
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,460
Commissioner heard will now become the longest serving Martin County

986
01:22:43,460 --> 01:22:49,160
Commissioner in Martin County history which is no small feet so congratulations to you

987
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:56,080
on your reelection and also now obtaining that milestone which is literally

988
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,960
remarkable that you would dedicate so much of your life to the service of our

989
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:29,840
So good for you. Yes, to the folks that have run and did not win. It's a process. You really have to put yourself out there for people to decide on how they want to vision the community. So for the folks that did it and were not successful. I thought that Miss O'Rourke this morning when you came forward to say that you would still be willing to commit to some of the things that you promised.

990
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,800
On the campaign trail, I have never heard any candidate ever do that.

991
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,460
That was not successful ever do that.

992
01:23:37,860 --> 01:23:40,640
I think it must be the theme this year,

993
01:23:40,780 --> 01:23:42,960
because John Dile, who was Commissioner,

994
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,700
heard's opponent in the race, one of them,

995
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:50,360
had mentioned something similar,

996
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,940
but for you to come this morning and publicly commit to that,

997
01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:55,540
I thought that was very interesting and admirable.

998
01:23:55,860 --> 01:23:56,960
So thank you.

999
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:05,340
your content expert. So to get your experiences in your professionalism as a generous donation

1000
01:24:05,340 --> 01:24:13,480
good for you, that's sort of the positive and the happy news. I have on occasion felt that

1001
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:22,020
this is an appropriate platform to recognize members of our community, sadly sometimes it's

1002
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:30,540
have passed away. This week we had lost the Martin County community, had lost a giant. If

1003
01:24:30,540 --> 01:24:37,780
you know him, then you know him, Ronald L. Corbin was the musical director of Opus, outstanding

1004
01:24:37,780 --> 01:24:45,820
people united and song. It's the Martin County High School Coral Group. Anyone that's had

1005
01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:53,620
gone through his program or who had children who gone through the program, he was way more

1006
01:24:53,620 --> 01:24:59,980
than a teacher, way more than instructor, he has had a 40-year career in music.

1007
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,220
He had been at Martin County High School for decades, and even though he was the Coral and Opus director,

1008
01:25:07,740 --> 01:25:15,200
he timed the basketball games. He timed volleyball games. He worked in the announcing booth

1009
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:21,980
at Martin County High School football games. Even after his retirement, he continued to come

1010
01:25:21,980 --> 01:25:27,780
To every event, he made Martin County students award winning.

1011
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:33,740
He has turned out some really unbelievable professionals in the industry.

1012
01:25:34,540 --> 01:25:36,320
They've traveled all over the world.

1013
01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:41,320
And I think when he retired, it was a great loss for the system.

1014
01:25:41,420 --> 01:25:44,460
But now that he has sadly passed away, I believe two young.

1015
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,620
He had some really serious medical issues for the last several years.

1016
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:57,300
It's a terrible loss, and I know that the people that have had the opportunity to share

1017
01:25:57,300 --> 01:26:02,980
his mentoring will never, never forget him and either will I.

1018
01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:08,660
He was remarkable, and I wish his daughter, and those that cared about him, my condolences.

1019
01:26:08,980 --> 01:26:10,040
Thank you so much.

1020
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,160
Commissioner Caps.

1021
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:19,880
I also want to begin by mentioning another individual that we have lost in our community.

1022
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:29,240
his name is Martin Bootenseek and he was a big figure in District 3, Dining Hope Sound.

1023
01:26:30,260 --> 01:26:38,540
He is the Sheriff's cousin and he lost his battle with cancer, a rather early age,

1024
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:47,580
and his late 50s and he will be greatly missed by people all over Martin County and particularly in Hope Sound.

1025
01:26:47,580 --> 01:26:54,640
I want to thank him for his service, to our Sheriff's Department, and to the Corrections Department,

1026
01:26:54,700 --> 01:26:59,780
and for his, and to thank him for his impact in our community.

1027
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:10,440
I also want to congratulate Commissioner Hertz for another election, and it's a remarkable

1028
01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:18,880
thing to be elected seven times for local office and that's really remarkable. I

1029
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,420
look forward to working with you. And the coming days I also want to

1030
01:27:23,420 --> 01:27:28,200
congratulate Commissioner Elect Chris Collins and we'll show him the very

1031
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:36,780
best as he prepares to join us on the Dias. I want to thank candidates who

1032
01:27:36,780 --> 01:27:43,280
we're not successful. I too know what it's like to lose an election and to win an election.

1033
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:49,600
And I'll offer a word of encouragement. After the death settles, you'll begin to appreciate

1034
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:56,900
the experience even though you didn't come out on the top in that particular election.

1035
01:27:57,420 --> 01:28:03,840
You'll begin to reflect on all that you learned on the campaign trail, all the people that

1036
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:11,020
mat and you'll still be grateful that she did it. I also want to address one other issue.

1037
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:18,540
We heard a harrowing story this morning about how I hope some resident nearly lost her life

1038
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:28,040
at the railroad crossing on Bridge Road in Hobbesown and how this young man Josiah Bauer

1039
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:37,980
stepped in and saved her, and then this past Thursday, something even worse happened in

1040
01:28:37,980 --> 01:28:47,820
District 3. A trained collision with a car at the railroad crossing on Cross-Rip Street in Hobesown.

1041
01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:55,180
Thankfully, the two elderly occupants of the car jumped out of the car just in time to save

1042
01:28:55,180 --> 01:29:03,960
lives before the collision. But the impact with the train spun the car around, causing the

1043
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:10,680
car to strike the man as he was running for his life. Our prayers are with this man and

1044
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:19,580
his wife for full recovery. The five crossings in Hope Sound are uniquely dangerous crossings

1045
01:29:19,580 --> 01:29:27,480
and Martin County because of their close proximity to Dixie Highway that prevents the stacking

1046
01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:32,520
of cars on the approach to the crossings.

1047
01:29:33,820 --> 01:29:41,740
This board is recognized this unique danger by applying for federal grants for additional

1048
01:29:41,740 --> 01:29:45,200
safety measures at these five crossings.

1049
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:52,080
And I want to briefly explain what these additional safety measures will be.

1050
01:29:52,420 --> 01:29:53,460
There are four of them.

1051
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:59,960
The first one is intersection traffic lights at the two crossings that do.

1052
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,580
We do not currently have intersection traffic lights. Those are cross-repe street where this accident just happened, and also recent street.

1053
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:24,840
And then number two, a thing called a pre-signal. These are additional red lights on a poll on the side of the road, on the east side of the tracks.

1054
01:30:26,780 --> 01:30:32,780
So that people approaching the railroad tracks have an additional red light like right in their face.

1055
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,000
And then number three, a thing called a signal preemption.

1056
01:30:37,980 --> 01:30:45,840
And this is for the person who finds themselves on the tracks with the gates down in front of them and behind them.

1057
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:55,120
And what happens is, there's a sensor in the tracks that makes the intersection light

1058
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,040
turn green immediately.

1059
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:05,440
And the gate in front of the trap car goes up and abling it to clear the tracks.

1060
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:07,740
That's called signal preemption.

1061
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:12,460
And then number four, there's a thing called second train coming lights.

1062
01:31:12,460 --> 01:31:15,440
And these are for pedestrians,

1063
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,160
but there's a flashing light on the sidewalk that goes off.

1064
01:31:20,300 --> 01:31:24,740
When two trains could be coming from opposite directions

1065
01:31:25,580 --> 01:31:27,380
at the same time.

1066
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,040
And it is my belief that these extra safety measures

1067
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,860
at the five crossings in Hope Sound

1068
01:31:35,380 --> 01:31:39,580
will indeed improve the safety of these crossings

1069
01:31:39,580 --> 01:31:41,860
and we look forward to seeing this work done.

1070
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:43,920
Thank you.

1071
01:31:44,140 --> 01:31:45,300
Commissioner Vargas.

1072
01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:52,200
Congratulations to you, which I said earlier and I know that this has been a long

1073
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:52,640
road.

1074
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:59,560
You have covered a lot of topics, you're a wealth of information and I listen intently when

1075
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:05,500
you speak, especially about the love of Martin County, so I just want to say that and I have

1076
01:32:05,500 --> 01:32:07,500
to have a wonderful for you right.

1077
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:16,840
I also want to congratulate Chris Collins for throwing his hat in the ring to join us here

1078
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:17,580
on the die.

1079
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,000
I'm looking forward to working with him also.

1080
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:28,320
And Mr. Rork, I applaud you all, so you are a traffic expert engineer having your own

1081
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,080
business, I believe, before.

1082
01:32:30,820 --> 01:32:36,520
And certainly whatever hand you can give us here at Martin County would be greatly appreciated,

1083
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,360
and we really appreciate you continuing forward.

1084
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:44,120
I've been on both sides also, so I just want to put that out there.

1085
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:49,220
But anyway, something else I want to talk a couple things I want to talk about.

1086
01:32:49,820 --> 01:32:55,040
I want to continue what Commissioner Caps did mention about the crossings,

1087
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,100
the railroad crossings.

1088
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:01,980
Jensen Beach is the number one most dangerous crossing in Martin County.

1089
01:33:01,980 --> 01:33:08,400
so we're two bookends here, all the way down south in that district and of course the northern

1090
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:15,620
most district that we have here and what I did when I saw that this was such a situation and

1091
01:33:15,620 --> 01:33:20,780
again this goes back to last year. I've been working on it. It'll be almost almost about a year now.

1092
01:33:21,340 --> 01:33:26,440
We're moving crosswalks in the middle of Jensen Beach that is in the downtown area rather than

1093
01:33:26,440 --> 01:33:29,720
having it right at the round about, which did not make sense.

1094
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,620
We want to have safety for our citizens that are walking about,

1095
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:36,540
on visiting our area.

1096
01:33:37,060 --> 01:33:38,980
I'm also looking at the lighting.

1097
01:33:39,380 --> 01:33:41,200
That is, these are already in studies.

1098
01:33:41,540 --> 01:33:43,220
They've already been planned.

1099
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:48,240
So we're putting additional lighting right at the railroad area

1100
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:49,460
with the intersection.

1101
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:55,300
Again, this goes east and west on Johnson Beach Boulevard.

1102
01:33:56,440 --> 01:34:02,660
giving a lot of consideration to landscaping that does not obstruct the east westbound traffic

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01:34:02,660 --> 01:34:08,880
and that movement. In addition to that signage, we're also making one way on Maple Street,

1104
01:34:09,020 --> 01:34:14,800
so there's no confusion coming out of ocean breeze. So there's a lot of thought being given to

1105
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:20,660
that particular intersection and I'm terribly sorry to hear about that incident this morning.

1106
01:34:20,660 --> 01:34:27,620
I did reach out to Vicki Davis, and I wanted to find out what the voter turnout was.

1107
01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:36,600
Statewide turnout for this primary was at 25.26 percent, 25.26 percent statewide.

1108
01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:39,400
Indian River was 2905.

1109
01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:47,480
Martin County was 28.94 and St. Lucy County, 24.02.

1110
01:34:48,540 --> 01:34:56,920
We really need to step up, talk to everyone, get registered if you are, get out to vote.

1111
01:34:57,540 --> 01:34:59,920
There were a lot of races that were decided in this primary.

1112
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,980
And possibly some people thought they had until the general election to finally make their decision. And this was not the case. So, it is a privilege. It is a right. I've lived in other countries. They don't have this. Let's exercise. Please. Let's do this for the future. Something else I wanted to talk about also is that I want this board to move to reconsider the decision on a agenda item 26-104-4-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5

1113
01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:35,800
for the article 10 appeal considered that was at our August 11th, 2026 Board of Commissioners

1114
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:36,420
meeting.

1115
01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:42,340
The county has since discovered that the applicant provided false information during the

1116
01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:45,960
administrative review meeting that was conducted by this board.

1117
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:47,720
So I want to pause this decision.

1118
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:53,700
This applicant needs to get rezoning on one acre.

1119
01:35:53,700 --> 01:36:02,040
He also talked about paying real estate taxes and the amount of $267,000 when in fact that

1120
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:03,140
wasn't the case.

1121
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,680
He paid probably about $60 in taxes, not disputing that.

1122
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,800
But we have to have accurate and truthful information.

1123
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:19,360
The other thing that was a big question and some of our commissioners did ask the applicant,

1124
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:27,240
did you contact to E.P. He did not do so. Because he needs a submerged land lease with

1125
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:33,260
the D.E.P. so he would have to contact them, not deal with Martin County. But this

1126
01:36:33,260 --> 01:36:39,180
was not the case either. This was contrary. So I think the previous decision needs to

1127
01:36:39,180 --> 01:36:44,720
be null and void because the thing is that we need to withdraw this because this applicant

1128
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:52,080
needs to go for one acre zoning, and the thing is that we have so much information that's

1129
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:58,500
provided to us written. We also speak with our personnel, our county manager, our county

1130
01:36:58,500 --> 01:37:04,140
attorney, our department heads, and obviously if we want to go and take a look at property,

1131
01:37:04,220 --> 01:37:09,900
we can see what it looks like out in the field. So I just want to know what the consequences

1132
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:14,640
This is our for this decision, Ms. Elder, our county attorney, and we need to ask the applicant

1133
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:19,100
to request the appropriate zoning for this land's use.

1134
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:24,440
So if the board considers their decision from the last board meeting, it basically stays

1135
01:37:24,440 --> 01:37:32,060
the board action and staff would contact the applicant and either reschedule the article

1136
01:37:32,060 --> 01:37:37,480
10 appeal, or we could try to work out a resolution with the applicant, so that would be

1137
01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:42,160
outcome, the board's fire action would be stayed, the matter would be reopened.

1138
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:49,280
Rather than going through the, I think it was a two hour, two and a half hour discussion,

1139
01:37:49,620 --> 01:37:55,600
which is fine, how about working with the applicant and stating that he does need rezoning

1140
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:56,620
for his one acre?

1141
01:37:57,380 --> 01:38:01,340
Now in so far as a dog, whether it's a floating dog or a stationary dog, that's

1142
01:38:01,340 --> 01:38:02,780
something he has to do with DEP.

1143
01:38:02,980 --> 01:38:04,920
This has nothing to do with Martin County.

1144
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:06,120
Is that correct?

1145
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:18,940
Well, the doc has nothing to do with Martin County. That is correct. We can ask the applicant to work it out with staff. We can't force him. So he has the opportunity to come back if he wants to before this board for another article 10 review meeting.

1146
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:28,160
But we can definitely reach out to him and see if we can work it out. But if you do a motion for reconsider during this motion, the board can only discuss reconsidering.

1147
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:33,140
We can't discuss the merits of the article 10 appeal just for clarification, and if the board

1148
01:38:33,140 --> 01:38:38,240
votes to reconsider the prior action is stayed, and then we would reach out to the applicant

1149
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,400
about moving forward.

1150
01:38:40,820 --> 01:38:47,420
Therefore, I make a motion that the previous decision on August 11th be stayed and request

1151
01:38:47,420 --> 01:38:52,840
of the applicant come before us again to discuss this, or if he chooses to work with our

1152
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:58,020
personnel, but based on the fact that he can build his home, but he needs rezoning on that

1153
01:38:58,020 --> 01:38:58,640
one acre.

1154
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,000
Mr. Caps.

1155
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:05,480
Just for clarity, that that means emotion to reconsider.

1156
01:39:06,740 --> 01:39:07,780
That's what you're saying.

1157
01:39:08,220 --> 01:39:08,400
Second.

1158
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,840
There's a motion from reconsideration.

1159
01:39:12,620 --> 01:39:13,480
All those in favor.

1160
01:39:14,420 --> 01:39:17,020
I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

1161
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:22,220
I want to thank Martin County voters.

1162
01:39:24,260 --> 01:39:29,800
I apologize, I haven't been one of the people that voted to give him that consideration.

1163
01:39:30,020 --> 01:39:37,660
I think that if there are new facts or accusations that have come to light, I have not

1164
01:39:37,660 --> 01:39:42,240
had the opportunity nor did I reach out to the applicant to hear his side of the story.

1165
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:50,820
I think if people are being, I don't know if accused is the right word if these facts are

1166
01:39:50,820 --> 01:39:55,280
being presented that I would want to make sure that he would have the opportunity to come back

1167
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,220
here to explain them.

1168
01:39:58,220 --> 01:39:59,960
I was one of the people that I asked him specific.

1169
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:16,000
Any questions? He gave us his answers. I did get an opportunity to hear from staff about these new information. So the reason for my vote is yes, I'd like to see him work out in some kind of a situation with the county.

1170
01:40:16,300 --> 01:40:26,060
If that's within what he wants to do, if not, I think he's entitled to come before us and explain himself. That's why I'm voting for that. Thank you.

1171
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:33,860
Thank you Martin County voters for your continued confidence and I never take it for granted.

1172
01:40:35,140 --> 01:40:44,860
I will, I certainly understand that public services in enormous responsibility and I will continue to attempt to try to earn your trust and confidence.

1173
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:55,060
So thank you very much and congratulations to all the candidates who work very hard in this primary season.

1174
01:40:55,060 --> 01:41:01,200
And primaries are difficult in Florida also because they occur in the heat of the summer.

1175
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:01,860
Yes.

1176
01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:09,480
I don't have any idea why our primaries are in August seems like it would be way more appropriate

1177
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:11,820
and enjoyable to have them in March.

1178
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:12,520
And you're very good.

1179
01:41:12,580 --> 01:41:12,800
Yes.

1180
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:13,560
You're very good.

1181
01:41:14,260 --> 01:41:14,760
No pain.

1182
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:17,500
Thank you.

1183
01:41:17,700 --> 01:41:18,820
Mr. Donaldson.

1184
01:41:19,180 --> 01:41:19,340
Yes.

1185
01:41:19,340 --> 01:41:24,260
So, never problem adding more confetti to the celebration.

1186
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:32,460
Congratulations, Commissioner Herd, and to also to Commissioner Elect Collins for

1187
01:41:32,460 --> 01:41:38,080
well, we'll be setting up time to meet with him to help him transition to those

1188
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,500
role here as a county commissioner.

1189
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:47,300
And also, we wanted to congratulate the city's Stuart for their award for federal rail award

1190
01:41:47,300 --> 01:41:51,920
for their trussle replacement, which is an important project

1191
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:56,000
that we supported, and furthering on that,

1192
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,320
we can go actually at the City of Cocoa

1193
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,340
in Brevard County for their award for a train station.

1194
01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:03,880
They had a similar project for us.

1195
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,580
And unfortunately, we did not receive such an award

1196
01:42:07,580 --> 01:42:10,700
for our train station and just the public understands

1197
01:42:10,700 --> 01:42:13,140
that, yes, we did not get to the award,

1198
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,960
but in terms of where we are,

1199
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:22,720
we're still looking for other opportunities should they exist in terms of our agreement with

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01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:23,280
Breitland.

1201
01:42:23,540 --> 01:42:25,700
And so with that, that's all I have for today.

1202
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:26,040
Thank you.

1203
01:42:26,060 --> 01:42:26,440
This elder.

1204
01:42:27,540 --> 01:42:33,840
And also for people who are curious about reorganization and inaugurations, the city of Stuart

1205
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:39,400
did their last night, Indian Town will do theirs on Thursday night, hours will not occur

1206
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,360
until November 17th.

1207
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:48,100
So don't expect our new commissioner to be sworn in until November 17th.

1208
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:54,180
So we are now going to take a 10 minute break, followed by the taking up the consent agenda.

1209
01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:14,460
A new attorney in our office, she was hired around the same time Joseph Baron was hired

1210
01:43:14,460 --> 01:43:16,000
and this is here on the moccler.

1211
01:43:16,420 --> 01:43:16,580
Hi.

1212
01:43:16,580 --> 01:43:16,640
Hi.

1213
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:16,740
Hi.

1214
01:43:16,740 --> 01:43:16,840
Hi.

1215
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:16,900
Hi.

1216
01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:16,960
Hi.

1217
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:17,020
Hi.

1218
01:43:17,020 --> 01:43:17,340
Hi.

1219
01:43:17,340 --> 01:43:19,120
to the board.

1220
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:19,560
Welcome.

1221
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:20,820
Thank you.

1222
01:43:20,940 --> 01:43:21,620
Thanks a be here.

1223
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:30,640
Please proceed.

1224
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,640
Good morning, Madam Chair and commissioners.

1225
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,400
Michelle Miller, Human Services Director.

1226
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:39,720
The agenda item before you today is a request for approval of revisions to the

1227
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,640
Martin County's local housing assistant plan or LHAPS for fiscal years

1228
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:48,840
2023-2226262629.

1229
01:43:49,480 --> 01:43:52,020
The LHAPS serves as the county's framework for

1230
01:43:52,020 --> 01:43:56,440
Administrating our state housing initiative partnership or ship program.

1231
01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:01,760
It identifies the housing strategies we are authorized to fund, the populations we serve,

1232
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,020
eligibility requirements, maximum award amounts, and the terms associated with each type

1233
01:44:07,020 --> 01:44:12,320
of assistance. The primary reason that these plans are being brought back before you is a

1234
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:18,420
recent change in state law. Florida Senate Bill 594 requires the county to include additional

1235
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:22,140
provisions related to manufactured and mobile housing in our

1236
01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:28,660
2,026 and 2,029 L.H. To comply with that requirement, staff added a

1237
01:44:28,660 --> 01:44:32,680
new strategy, J, for manufactured housing and mobile homes.

1238
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:35,100
Under this

1239
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:39,640
strategy, eligible very low in low income residents may receive assistance

1240
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:44,140
in three specific areas. Re-location assistance for owners or tenants

1241
01:44:44,140 --> 01:44:48,400
displaced because of the closure of a mobile home park. Lot rental assistance

1242
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:54,380
for owners of manufactured or mobile homes for up to six months and rehabilitation or emergency

1243
01:44:54,380 --> 01:44:59,680
repair assistance for eligible owner occupied manufactured or mobile homes.

1244
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,960
A assistance available under the strategy is $10,000 for relocation assistance, $5,000 for a lot rental assistance, and $15,000 for rehab or emergency repairs.

1245
01:45:12,860 --> 01:45:23,700
To be eligible for rehabilitation or repair assistance, the manufactured or mobile home must be owner occupied and must have been constructed within 20 years of the application date.

1246
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:27,040
assistance under the strategy is a one-time benefit.

1247
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:33,760
In addition to the changes that are required by Senate Bill 594, staff made several technical

1248
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,220
revisions to both elapsed to maintain consistency between the plans.

1249
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:45,240
These include updates to Section 1X regarding the manufactured in mobile home language and revisions

1250
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:50,260
to strategy H, our rental move in and security deposit assistance strategy, which allows

1251
01:45:50,260 --> 01:45:56,880
for housing costs to increase to 40% of the household's gross monthly income, which allows

1252
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,280
more residents to be able to be eligible for rental assistance.

1253
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,980
The overall purpose of these plans remains the same to use ship resources and address the

1254
01:46:06,980 --> 01:46:12,240
housing needs of Martin County's extremely low, very low, low, and moderate income households,

1255
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,540
while preserving and expanding affordable housing opportunities within the county.

1256
01:46:16,540 --> 01:46:22,620
Both revised plans have been reviewed and tentatively approved by the Florida Housing Finance Corporation.

1257
01:46:23,660 --> 01:46:32,500
So the action requested today is for the board to approve the revised 2023-2026-2026-2029,

1258
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:38,980
local housing assisting plans and authorized chair to sign the associated resolutions and certifications.

1259
01:46:38,980 --> 01:46:48,440
Filing Board approval, the documents will be submitted to Florida Housing Finance Corporation for their final approval, and I'm available to answer any questions you may have.

1260
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,000
Questions from his billor?

1261
01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:54,470
Mr. Kadeby.

1262
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:55,850
Mr. Miller, good morning.

1263
01:46:56,570 --> 01:46:58,790
We have an opportunity to speak the other day on the phone.

1264
01:46:59,650 --> 01:47:03,350
I found that the information that you shared was to me all positive news.

1265
01:47:04,030 --> 01:47:10,750
This morning we had some public comment about how the process of getting to where we are right this minute has.

1266
01:47:11,410 --> 01:47:15,150
Can you share a little bit about how that works, how you get the information?

1267
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:21,870
I thought there was a couple of solid suggestions about reaching out to the affected population.

1268
01:47:22,890 --> 01:47:25,390
So, how do you come up with what you come up with?

1269
01:47:25,810 --> 01:47:30,390
So, these local assistance housing plans are revised every three years as we'll cry

1270
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:31,410
by state statute.

1271
01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:36,150
That's why there's two of them in front of you because we work off different funding years.

1272
01:47:36,150 --> 01:47:40,650
So, whatever funding here that we're working in has to be applied to that specific

1273
01:47:40,650 --> 01:47:41,250
L.H.

1274
01:47:41,410 --> 01:47:47,010
So prior to the new L.H. being implemented, there is a public hearing that is noticed

1275
01:47:47,010 --> 01:47:51,750
and there's the opportunity for the public to come out to our A-hack meeting or our Affordable

1276
01:47:51,750 --> 01:47:56,430
Housing Advisory Committee meeting and provide feedback on the strategies that they'd like

1277
01:47:56,430 --> 01:47:57,230
us to include.

1278
01:47:57,610 --> 01:48:02,210
Florida's statute only allows us to spend $ship on very limited amount of things and most

1279
01:48:02,210 --> 01:48:08,050
strategies that we include in our local plan allows for most of the strategies that are allowed

1280
01:48:08,050 --> 01:48:13,590
by statute. So it's not that you're picking and choosing some and leaving some behind. You're

1281
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:21,010
basically using all of the ones that are allowable in this category. There are some that we're not

1282
01:48:21,010 --> 01:48:32,190
using, but we base it off community needs. So primarily what is used in this is throughout most of

1283
01:48:32,190 --> 01:48:37,310
emergency assistance, rental assistance, disaster assistance, all of those things are utility

1284
01:48:37,310 --> 01:48:41,810
assistance for water and sewer hookups. All of those things are included in our LLAP.

1285
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:47,850
And our AHAQ which meets quarterly is always open for public comment so at any time people

1286
01:48:47,850 --> 01:48:52,230
can come in and make suggestions for revisions that will go into the next planning cycle.

1287
01:48:54,050 --> 01:48:59,410
So the window of opportunity opens and closes in this particular case but for some of the

1288
01:48:59,410 --> 01:49:05,150
information that we've been hearing about, it's not so, it's like if we don't lock it into

1289
01:49:05,150 --> 01:49:09,110
what you're discussing right now, it's not like it can't ever happen, and there's not

1290
01:49:09,110 --> 01:49:14,010
additional funding sources. I know you have all sorts of opportunities, you guys are constantly

1291
01:49:14,010 --> 01:49:21,030
applying for grants. So if we approve what you've discussed today, it's not that for the next couple

1292
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:27,390
of years the conversation is over. Correct. What's before you today is required by the new statute

1293
01:49:27,390 --> 01:49:33,190
that was enacted this year. If it had not been for that, we wouldn't even be bringing this before

1294
01:49:33,190 --> 01:49:38,650
you, but we're required to add that strategy. The Floating Housing Coalition requires certain

1295
01:49:38,650 --> 01:49:43,130
strategies to be implemented, and this is one of them. But yes, there are opportunities that

1296
01:49:43,130 --> 01:49:47,390
all of our A-hack meetings for the public to come in, make suggestions, and then that board can

1297
01:49:47,390 --> 01:49:53,870
make suggestions to you for changes that they would like to see. I had served on the A-hack

1298
01:49:54,610 --> 01:49:58,910
for quite a while, and I know my colleagues are doing it also.

1299
01:49:59,530 --> 01:49:59,950
I...

1300
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:27,620
I think that what you guys discuss in your staff discuss there would be an important conversation for a broader audience to hear, and I would make a recommendation to Mr. Donaldson that perhaps we could have you and your staff from the AHAC and maybe members of the AHAC beyond the commission that would want to come and then have it be during a commission meeting. If that was okay with my colleagues to have an agenda item where we have that conversation here.

1301
01:50:27,620 --> 01:50:28,740
Yes, we can do that.

1302
01:50:28,740 --> 01:50:35,320
You know, televised, on a Tuesday morning, where it's a planned opportunity for the folks

1303
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,700
to come, and so we can continue that conversation on a broader scale.

1304
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:44,520
I think that the things that we heard this morning were valid, the suggestions on what

1305
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:49,060
needs to happen, the three suggestions, the requests that were made are valid.

1306
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,480
And so I would ask that maybe you could coordinate with Mr. Donaldson, if my colleagues

1307
01:50:53,480 --> 01:50:57,700
agree that we would have it as an actual agenda item to discuss some of the opportunities.

1308
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:03,880
I see Robert and Ari is from the House of Hope is behind you. He and I did have a conversation

1309
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:10,840
about that we always do, but specifically about the dignity bus and what it would take to bring

1310
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:18,260
something like that here. It's more than just acquiring the bus and bringing it here. Like

1311
01:51:18,260 --> 01:51:23,240
all of the other things, whenever you're bringing groups of people together to sleep and

1312
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:30,640
power and cohabitate even if it's on a short-term basis, that opens up a tremendous amount

1313
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:36,860
of scenarios with strangers being next to other strangers and adults being near children

1314
01:51:36,860 --> 01:51:44,660
and men being near women and so I think it's worked and the beautiful part is we didn't

1315
01:51:44,660 --> 01:51:47,020
have to invent the idea.

1316
01:51:47,020 --> 01:51:53,980
It exists, but I know that House of Hope and others, organizations beyond the ten city

1317
01:51:53,980 --> 01:51:56,380
helpers, would be willing to participate.

1318
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:02,360
They all are sort of the divergent of each other in separate kind of entities, but they're

1319
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:07,920
all trying to row the canoe in the same direction, and I'd like to help participate in that.

1320
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:09,000
Thank you.

1321
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:09,760
Mr. Vargas.

1322
01:52:10,060 --> 01:52:15,680
Okay, so I've heard everything you said I am on the committee, and what you provide during

1323
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,440
our meetings which are every couple of months,

1324
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,760
in my quarter, every quarter, which I am there.

1325
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:27,160
A lot of rich information that I think the community

1326
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,420
is totally unaware of, whether you're with a non-profit,

1327
01:52:30,660 --> 01:52:33,500
you're an individual, you're somebody who has an idea,

1328
01:52:33,660 --> 01:52:34,760
whatever it may be.

1329
01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:37,300
I take copious notes there, and of course,

1330
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,520
we have conversations too.

1331
01:52:41,300 --> 01:52:43,820
Now I know we had tent city helpers here.

1332
01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:52,240
well over the last several meetings and I did ask about this. I'm still looking into what

1333
01:52:52,240 --> 01:53:02,420
the shower bus is. My understanding is India River County does provide the opportunity for

1334
01:53:02,420 --> 01:53:13,800
non-profits which they should to host the bus or churches on their properties. And

1335
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:21,820
because it moves around the county, it's not just part one location, and the bus coordinates

1336
01:53:21,820 --> 01:53:27,420
through the nonprofits as partners, and they should partner with them, coordinates with property

1337
01:53:27,420 --> 01:53:35,480
owners, whether it be a church or a nonprofit or a private individual, so that they can

1338
01:53:35,480 --> 01:53:42,220
have the fluidity to be able to reach a number of people. And so this effort should be geared towards

1339
01:53:42,220 --> 01:53:42,860
on-profits.

1340
01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:48,480
Non-profits need to come together in this county to provide this, because the other

1341
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:54,620
question that I asked and I've asked several meetings, and you see, as a government entity,

1342
01:53:56,460 --> 01:54:00,960
if we were to provide for a shower bus or an encampment, we have to provide security.

1343
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:11,440
We have to provide utilities, maintenance, liability insurance, health care facility, and also

1344
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:17,080
We open ourselves up to, we had a brief discussion this morning about adjacent property owners

1345
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:22,940
may feel at the encampment, may create a devaluation of their property and open us up

1346
01:54:22,940 --> 01:54:23,520
to a lawsuit.

1347
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:28,900
I'm not afraid of lawsuits, but we have to think about all of that, and this is an idea

1348
01:54:28,900 --> 01:54:32,840
however that idea needs to get together with the non-profits.

1349
01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:35,540
They need to find the funding.

1350
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,540
They have the funding, Martin County has helped non-profits in the past.

1351
01:54:39,540 --> 01:54:44,580
this is the time to step up to the plate. We've had a lot of people asking and I know I'm

1352
01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:50,680
preaching to the choir. You're very, very professional and you know this backwards and forwards

1353
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:57,440
what we're talking about today. So they need to step up to the plate, the non-profits, and assist.

1354
01:54:58,020 --> 01:54:59,000
They have to assist.

1355
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:22,060
Again, I'm going to look at the shower bus. I will make it a point to do that. I have seen others in other counties, but I'm going to go towards Indian river and I do have other commissioners who I do know from the Florida Association of Counties, reaching out to them to find out what this is and what they do in their counties.

1356
01:55:22,060 --> 01:55:22,720
Any

1357
01:55:26,750 --> 01:55:29,150
free lead advice input?

1358
01:55:30,210 --> 01:55:31,990
I have none at this time.

1359
01:55:33,070 --> 01:55:33,810
Any further discussion?

1360
01:55:34,130 --> 01:55:35,950
I'd make a motion to accept staff's recommendation.

1361
01:55:36,410 --> 01:55:36,750
Second.

1362
01:55:37,150 --> 01:55:39,170
There's a motion in the second all those in favor.

1363
01:55:39,530 --> 01:55:39,870
Aye.

1364
01:55:40,110 --> 01:55:42,070
Opposed to that motion passes unanimously.

1365
01:55:42,490 --> 01:55:43,050
Thank you.

1366
01:55:43,330 --> 01:55:44,470
Thank you.

1367
01:55:45,170 --> 01:55:46,310
And we'll take up consent.

1368
01:55:47,170 --> 01:55:54,110
Which is a request to approve an agreement between the University of Florida and Martin County for Cooperative Extension Services.

1369
01:55:54,110 --> 01:56:04,350
I pulled this item just because of uncertainty, don't we have an agreement with the ranch

1370
01:56:04,350 --> 01:56:12,770
to provide a facility on their property and if so is there a timeline, when is the fair

1371
01:56:12,770 --> 01:56:17,110
vacating the premises, who pays for the maintenance of the property,

1372
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:22,120
those are some of my

1373
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:22,560
questions.

1374
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,320
Good morning, Kevin Abate, Parks and Recreation Director.

1375
01:56:26,180 --> 01:56:34,520
The PUD agreement with the Ranch stipulates that my notes were that the Ranch will enter

1376
01:56:34,900 --> 01:56:41,980
with the county with the separate lease for 20 acres, but it will be done upon the first

1377
01:56:41,980 --> 01:56:44,640
building permit on after Phase 3.

1378
01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:49,020
They'll contribute up to 50,000 towards engineering and planning cost.

1379
01:56:49,020 --> 01:56:54,040
I did talk with Tom McNicholers today, a morning and asked them what the time frame was on

1380
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:54,200
this.

1381
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:59,360
He said it would be about two years or so, they're still on phase one, and so as I think,

1382
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:03,360
you know, as this kind of goes forward and also speaking with extension services, which

1383
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:08,560
houses the 4-H program, they're not going to, they, they, they do not have a desire to move

1384
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:13,560
out west with the fair, they're, we'd like to stay where they are now, depend on what's

1385
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:17,220
happening with the property in the future, and then ultimately they're move out to the ranch.

1386
01:57:17,220 --> 01:57:26,440
As we do pay for the salary cost and also some of the building costs as it relates to their truck,

1387
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:30,340
the maintenance of their facility over at the fairgrounds for the building.

1388
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:37,800
So really we're kind of in a holding pattern right now until that properties vacated by

1389
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:45,400
park operations and then the fair which their currently expires this next summer and I guess

1390
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,120
the last fair will be fair of 2027.

1391
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:55,960
So the fair of 2027 will be over in February of 2027.

1392
01:57:56,540 --> 01:58:07,000
This contract continues through September 30th of 2027 and there's not, we don't have any

1393
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:11,100
idea about the timing of the ranch property.

1394
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:22,140
I just don't understand are we going to continue providing $282,000 a year for salaries and for facilities?

1395
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,420
Is that going to be a single use at the fairgrounds?

1396
01:58:26,420 --> 01:58:28,800
Just tell me what the plan is here.

1397
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:33,380
So the fair will, and Mr. Stoke is a zero two about it.

1398
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:37,280
The fair is going, their contract expires in June 16th of 2027.

1399
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:43,140
this MOUs we figured we do it for one year we really wanted to wait to see what happened in November as

1400
01:58:43,140 --> 01:58:48,640
relates to amendment three so we did want to go into a multi-year agreement we work with the county attorney's office

1401
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:55,040
and the University of Florida to kind of negotiate this one year MOU to get us through the end of the next fiscal year

1402
01:58:55,040 --> 01:59:02,400
which they will be fully budgeted for next year the amount of the budget is primarily salaries with the four

1403
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:10,300
extension staff, cooperative extension, and we pay about 30,000 and other services specifically

1404
01:59:10,300 --> 01:59:16,280
for the building, and they have one office there, and specifically as it relates to this current

1405
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:22,660
budget, we have, you know, janitorial services, garbage, copy releases, you know, vehicle repair,

1406
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:28,560
building maintenance, printing and binding, a pretty low-level budget for the 4-H and the extension

1407
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:35,140
program. So, you know, my thought was in the next coming CIP program was to start

1408
01:59:35,140 --> 01:59:41,040
putting them some dollars in working, we have to have a separate lease with the ranch,

1409
01:59:41,220 --> 01:59:46,980
the county does going forward to come up with the program for extension services in the future.

1410
01:59:47,220 --> 01:59:51,180
So if it's going to be a two-year window or on phase three, according to the agreement,

1411
01:59:51,300 --> 01:59:55,800
we do have some time. But if we have to find another home in addition to where they are now,

1412
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,980
We can certainly do that with the funds that we have, and we'll work directly with it.

1413
02:00:02,580 --> 02:00:06,740
So, are you anticipating that we're going to build the facility?

1414
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,200
Well, I don't know the answer to that yet. We haven't brought it back before the board of the

1415
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:17,980
PUD stipulates that specifically that 50,000 will go towards engineering and land planning

1416
02:00:17,980 --> 02:00:25,920
costs, so we ultimately have a building now. I think they can go where we really need to meet with

1417
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,120
and talk about what the plan is for the future,

1418
02:00:28,220 --> 02:00:30,920
as it relates to extension services and their programming,

1419
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:32,780
because they had the master gardener program,

1420
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:34,420
the 4-H program, and of course,

1421
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,140
all the stuff they do into schools.

1422
02:00:36,820 --> 02:00:39,420
So, what's the responsibility of University of Florida?

1423
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,500
I think in the MOU, I'll speak to Melissa

1424
02:00:43,500 --> 02:00:46,760
that we are required to provide a facility for them,

1425
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:47,380
and we...

1426
02:00:47,380 --> 02:00:48,360
Well, we have a facility.

1427
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:50,900
That's so that I understand that,

1428
02:00:50,900 --> 02:00:53,320
but we don't have a facility going forward.

1429
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:57,240
So I don't want to be on the hook to have to build a facility.

1430
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:03,820
I think that our partners at University of Florida need to have skin in the game.

1431
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:06,500
Mr. Vargas.

1432
02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:11,460
I concur with Chairwoman, heard.

1433
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,420
I have been numerous programs at University of Florida. They have the endowments.

1434
02:01:16,260 --> 02:01:19,140
They can certainly have plenty of skin in the game,

1435
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:21,660
but we cannot continue to shoulder that.

1436
02:01:21,660 --> 02:01:24,560
the extension is wonderful, wonderful people.

1437
02:01:24,860 --> 02:01:27,020
They really are, I've worked with them.

1438
02:01:27,340 --> 02:01:28,320
I've been to their facility.

1439
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:30,860
I mean, they need to do what they need to do.

1440
02:01:31,100 --> 02:01:34,620
I mean, we're not in the good times rolling anymore.

1441
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:35,320
We're really not.

1442
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,460
But I've been saying that since early 2025,

1443
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:39,540
we're down to the wire here.

1444
02:01:39,880 --> 02:01:42,340
So who would be the person to reach out to the University

1445
02:01:42,340 --> 02:01:44,760
of Florida and have a conversation, certainly a commissioner?

1446
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,080
On this board, the Chairwoman Ken,

1447
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:48,700
I'd be happy to do it.

1448
02:01:48,700 --> 02:01:55,140
Secondly, Mr. Stokes can do that, too, since he's sitting there, so I assume he volunteered.

1449
02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,980
So Madam Chair, I believe we're kind of adding this whole process is staff was focusing

1450
02:02:00,980 --> 02:02:05,960
on the transition of the fair association out west, and now that that has come to light

1451
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:09,280
and they've submitted their site plans, we're into kind of a phase, too.

1452
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:14,620
We've had preliminary discussions with IFA's and the Master Gardener Program in the 4-H,

1453
02:02:14,620 --> 02:02:20,740
And there's some conflicting needs and wants that occur as far as it relates to location.

1454
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,920
Do they want to be out west?

1455
02:02:22,140 --> 02:02:24,400
You know, master gardeners want to be a little bit more to the east.

1456
02:02:24,940 --> 02:02:27,300
So we'll reach out and work with them at this time.

1457
02:02:27,380 --> 02:02:32,160
And then we'll come back to you all with a plan as well as probably a grant plan as to what we can apply for.

1458
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:36,840
And then how we cobble the finances and then come back to you at a later date as to how we do that.

1459
02:02:36,900 --> 02:02:44,440
It was my understanding that once the fair was to, let's say, vacate the property that there were other partners.

1460
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,140
organizations that needed to be addressed.

1461
02:02:47,500 --> 02:02:51,860
Not just IFS 4H, but we have some United Way activities that occur out there.

1462
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:55,580
It was also the discussion of how we're going to work with the railroad museum that was

1463
02:02:55,580 --> 02:02:55,880
out there.

1464
02:02:55,940 --> 02:02:59,420
That was at least my recollection of the events.

1465
02:02:59,740 --> 02:03:03,280
It has been a few years, but we clearly are going to have to re-engage and come back

1466
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,880
to the board and republicize kind of a better plan moving forward.

1467
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:18,760
Okay, because the lease with the fair is up June 2027 I believe so so we have you know

1468
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:21,580
It's nine months to figure out bigger this out. Yeah.

1469
02:03:23,860 --> 02:03:24,540
Okay,

1470
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,860
is there a motion to approve consent to seven

1471
02:03:33,420 --> 02:03:39,140
There's a motion in a second all those in favor I opposed that motion passes unanimously

1472
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:46,900
let's take up board appointments. B and C one.

1473
02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:51,900
Did the rest of the consent agenda get approved?

1474
02:03:52,420 --> 02:03:54,140
No, I don't think so. Good morning.

1475
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:55,400
A little approval.

1476
02:03:55,940 --> 02:03:56,500
A second.

1477
02:03:56,700 --> 02:04:00,280
There's a motion in the second to approve the remainder of the consent agenda.

1478
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:05,060
All those in favor. I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

1479
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:15,240
Morning this quarter.

1480
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:17,280
Hi, Donna Gordon for administration.

1481
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,900
First, what is value adjustment board?

1482
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:26,700
There were two applicants, and Mrs. Victoria Sica received three votes.

1483
02:04:29,050 --> 02:04:31,770
Is there a motion to approve Victoria Sica?

1484
02:04:31,990 --> 02:04:34,270
I'll move a approval of Ms. Victoria Sica.

1485
02:04:34,590 --> 02:04:37,310
Second, there's a motion in the second, any objection?

1486
02:04:37,750 --> 02:04:39,310
That motion passes unanimously.

1487
02:04:40,850 --> 02:04:42,930
The neighborhood advisory committee appointments.

1488
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:43,610
Okay.

1489
02:04:51,700 --> 02:04:59,800
For Golden Gate we had no applications. For Hope Sound there's three physicians opening one applicant Susan.

1490
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:10,800
Butler, I'm suggesting her term begins September 12, 2026, and in September 11, 2030, skip jins and be each for now.

1491
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:29,000
Ports of Lerno, no applications. Rio, there was two open positions and two individuals applied, Richard Kennedy, re-applied, and Douglas Schrem, re-applied, and I'm suggesting Richard Kennedy's term begins September 12,

1492
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:38,700
26 and in September 11 2030 and Mr. Shram's term began August 25th and in August 24, 2030

1493
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:48,920
and Jensen Beach I'm asking you to talk point two people Mrs. Cindy Hall received four votes Mrs. Linda

1494
02:05:50,580 --> 02:05:58,500
Cercachane received five votes, and I'm suggesting Miss Mrs. Hall's vote with her term

1495
02:05:58,500 --> 02:06:07,140
begins September 12, 2026, and Linda's begin August 25, 2026, and for four years.

1496
02:06:07,660 --> 02:06:08,380
Over-proble.

1497
02:06:09,420 --> 02:06:10,660
There's a motion in the second.

1498
02:06:10,940 --> 02:06:11,600
All those in favor.

1499
02:06:12,420 --> 02:06:17,860
I oppose that motion passes unanimously, and industrial development authority appointments.

1500
02:06:17,860 --> 02:06:19,000
4

1501
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:31,480
positions open. Mr. Don Britain received 5 votes. Mrs. Jamie Elford received 4 votes.

1502
02:06:31,860 --> 02:06:39,480
Mr. George got you so. Received 5 votes. Mr. Sean Williams received 4 votes.

1503
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:58,480
The only term I'm going to ask is that you appoint Mr. Sean Williams to the November 2426 to November 23rd, 2030, and the IDA would like there's terms to be staggered, so you all can determine who gets the one year, two year, three year.

1504
02:07:00,750 --> 02:07:01,190
Any suggestions?

1505
02:07:01,930 --> 02:07:03,790
Just go down the line, go up it backwards.

1506
02:07:04,090 --> 02:07:04,670
I don't care.

1507
02:07:05,150 --> 02:07:06,070
Go down the line.

1508
02:07:07,290 --> 02:07:08,330
Go down the line.

1509
02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:15,200
So you're wanting suggestions on who should be one year, who should be two, and who should be three?

1510
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:15,700
Correct.

1511
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,140
When did they meet again? Can we leave that up to them? Well, we have to do it right now.

1512
02:07:19,300 --> 02:07:20,280
I prefer you do it now.

1513
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:23,560
Ms. Gordon says do it now. Let's do it now.

1514
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:26,780
Can I hear that more often?

1515
02:07:27,060 --> 02:07:27,800
I know you.

1516
02:07:29,020 --> 02:07:30,120
I didn't know you were talking.

1517
02:07:36,140 --> 02:07:41,720
I guess maybe make the incumbents the shorter terms and the new folks the longer terms?

1518
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:46,460
Well, there's only one, there's three incumbents.

1519
02:07:47,260 --> 02:07:51,900
I'm requesting Williams be November, the November appointment,

1520
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:55,000
because that's when his term expires is in November.

1521
02:07:56,060 --> 02:07:59,960
And the newcomer would be Don Britton.

1522
02:08:00,620 --> 02:08:02,060
I'm going to do him one year.

1523
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:04,710
I'm sure maybe he won't like

1524
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:07,460
it.

1525
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:10,800
And Mrs. Elfert two years, three years?

1526
02:08:12,500 --> 02:08:18,880
to you, maybe since we're just picking these out of this, I'd make Miss Elefort one year,

1527
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:24,800
Don Britain, two years, Sean Williams was four, and then what do we do with three?

1528
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:30,500
Oh, two, so, yeah, two, so it would be September, 2029, expiring, so three years.

1529
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:32,540
Sounds good.

1530
02:08:32,940 --> 02:08:33,380
Is that a motion?

1531
02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:34,560
Yes, it is.

1532
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:35,580
It's a motion.

1533
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:37,160
Second, all those in favor.

1534
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,120
I oppose that motion passes unanimously.

1535
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:43,700
question for you if they meet and they decide that that just

1536
02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:46,160
logistically doesn't work and they make a recommendation.

1537
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,480
So we're not bringing it back.

1538
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:48,720
Okay.

1539
02:08:49,060 --> 02:08:51,400
If it ever gets passed, that'll be our office.

1540
02:08:52,940 --> 02:08:53,980
Thank you.

1541
02:08:54,820 --> 02:08:56,140
We will give them that opportunity.

1542
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:57,120
I will.

1543
02:08:58,140 --> 02:09:02,620
We will take a public hearing number one, which is approval of the State Housing Initiative

1544
02:09:02,620 --> 02:09:08,520
Partnership Program, 2324 annual report and transmittal to the states.

1545
02:09:10,980 --> 02:09:11,320
Okay.

1546
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:16,220
Madam Chair and Commissioners, Michelle Miller, Human Services Director.

1547
02:09:16,980 --> 02:09:21,440
The item before you this morning is a request for approval of Martin County State Housing

1548
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:27,280
Initiative's Partnership Program Annual Report for Fiscal Year 2023-2024.

1549
02:09:28,180 --> 02:09:31,860
As you know, she provides an importance for a funding that allows the county to assist

1550
02:09:31,860 --> 02:09:34,920
income eligible residents with a variety of housing needs.

1551
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:39,660
Florida Statutes require participating counties to submit an annual report to the Florida

1552
02:09:39,660 --> 02:09:45,360
housing finance corporation detailing how these funds were used in demonstrating our

1553
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:49,780
compliance with the program requirements. And I would like to just highlight a few of the

1554
02:09:49,780 --> 02:09:56,180
results from this reporting period. During this year, 2324 that were reporting Martin County

1555
02:09:56,180 --> 02:09:59,680
expanded approximately 985,000 in ship funds.

1556
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:13,740
And assisted 68 households through our various housing strategies. Those strategies included rental assistance, owner occupied rehabilitation, emergency repairs, water and sewer assistance and demolition and reconstruction.

1557
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:24,080
More specifically, of those 68 households assisted 48 received rental assistance. I'm sorry 42. 10 received emergency repair assistance.

1558
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:30,060
Eight households received rehabilitation, seven households received water and sewer assistance,

1559
02:10:30,540 --> 02:10:34,280
and one household received a demolition and reconstruction assistance.

1560
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:40,420
These investments are important because they allow us to address the housing needs at several different levels.

1561
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:48,480
In some cases, we are helping families retain, remain safely in their existing home through our rehabilitation strategy,

1562
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:57,720
or an emergency repair, and others we are helping residents maintain stable housing through rental services and this prevents homelessness.

1563
02:10:58,700 --> 02:11:16,540
The report also demonstrates that we continue to prioritize our lower income residents. Approximately 80% of these funds were reflected in the income set aside portion of this report were directed towards extremely low, very low, in our low income households.

1564
02:11:16,540 --> 02:11:23,760
The county also met or exceeded the major statutory ship set aside requirements reflected in this report,

1565
02:11:24,260 --> 02:11:28,460
which includes the requirements related to home ownership, construction and rehabilitation,

1566
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:34,720
for very low-income households, our low-income households, and our special needs households.

1567
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:39,240
It's also worth noting that there is a great demand for this program.

1568
02:11:39,460 --> 02:11:44,620
During the reporting period, the county received 131 affordable housing applications,

1569
02:11:44,620 --> 02:11:48,420
100 and 2 were approved in 41 more denied.

1570
02:11:48,860 --> 02:11:55,160
Those denials are primarily for things like they were not income eligible or they weren't the primary owner and resident.

1571
02:11:56,360 --> 02:12:01,360
This continues to demonstrate the significant need for housing assistance within our community.

1572
02:12:01,860 --> 02:12:06,520
Overall, the report represents more than compliance with a state reporting requirement.

1573
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:14,600
It reflects our direct investment in assisting Martin County residents in our ability to help these families maintain safe, stable and affordable.

1574
02:12:14,600 --> 02:12:21,820
housing. The requested action today is for the board to approve the 2023-24 ship program annual

1575
02:12:21,820 --> 02:12:26,960
report and authorize the chair to sign the required certification upon approval. The report

1576
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:31,860
will be submitted to the Florida Housing Finance Corporation and I'm available to answer any questions.

1577
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:33,240
Just for Ms. Miller.

1578
02:12:37,210 --> 02:12:40,910
Just to be clear, you're seeing ship with a P at the end, correct?

1579
02:12:42,010 --> 02:12:45,770
Just want to clarify. Yes. State Housing Initiative Partnership.

1580
02:12:47,450 --> 02:12:54,210
I did a tour, one of your homes that was in East Stewart, and I know that you're waiting

1581
02:12:54,210 --> 02:13:01,110
for Florida Power and Light to come out to, you had to cut trees down for poms, and then

1582
02:13:01,110 --> 02:13:06,470
they had to change the box or move the box off near the street area, and so that you could

1583
02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:14,450
obviously connect the electricity to be able to dry the home to be able to complete the

1584
02:13:14,450 --> 02:13:23,070
interior building of that. So I did see that. And I think you had set aside up to $350,000

1585
02:13:23,070 --> 02:13:28,450
for that. That's amazing. When I started to realize that would be like $45,000. You know,

1586
02:13:29,210 --> 02:13:31,910
that type of home size home. Yeah.

1587
02:13:32,370 --> 02:13:33,190
Mr. Caps.

1588
02:13:34,410 --> 02:13:42,370
You know, when looking at the types of things that people can get and what they can use the

1589
02:13:42,370 --> 02:13:50,150
funds for. I think we had to publicize that a little bit. Some of the things that I saw were

1590
02:13:50,150 --> 02:13:59,310
rental assistance, owner occupied rehabilitation of your house, emergency repair, and even

1591
02:13:59,310 --> 02:14:12,350
water sewer. So if you know a folks who are physically constrained and could use some funds for

1592
02:14:12,350 --> 02:14:13,710
these types of purposes.

1593
02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:20,390
Think about them and let them know about this program. It looks

1594
02:14:21,390 --> 02:14:28,150
like the incumbent amount is $1.4 million. Is that about the amount of money we spend

1595
02:14:28,150 --> 02:14:30,790
each year on this program?

1596
02:14:30,950 --> 02:14:37,270
It varies, so we have been getting between, I would say, 1.2 to 1.8 million over the past five

1597
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:39,510
you're just so it varies in between those ranges.

1598
02:14:41,410 --> 02:14:44,150
So it's a good thing to let your neighbors know.

1599
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:48,430
And this is a really valuable resources,

1600
02:14:49,490 --> 02:14:51,250
resource for people who need it.

1601
02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:53,310
Thanks for your presentation.

1602
02:14:56,420 --> 02:14:59,960
I'll move the board approve the 20th.

1603
02:15:01,010 --> 02:15:03,170
I approve the ship program and the report.

1604
02:15:03,670 --> 02:15:04,730
I will second it.

1605
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:06,830
There's a motion and the second all those in favor.

1606
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:09,850
I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

1607
02:15:10,490 --> 02:15:11,370
Thank you, Ms. Miller.

1608
02:15:13,290 --> 02:15:18,350
We will now take up to department quasi judicial number one,

1609
02:15:18,670 --> 02:15:21,490
which is a request for approval of the Martin Commerce Park Plan

1610
02:15:21,490 --> 02:15:22,350
Unit Development.

1611
02:15:22,710 --> 02:15:24,690
Platform infrastructure, final site plan,

1612
02:15:24,810 --> 02:15:28,710
and closing phase one and two final site plan.

1613
02:15:28,710 --> 02:15:33,570
This is quasi-judicial, any export aid disclosures Commissioner Bargaz.

1614
02:15:34,570 --> 02:15:36,970
I have none, if reports have been filed.

1615
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:38,050
Mr. Caps.

1616
02:15:38,230 --> 02:15:39,910
If I have any, they have been filed.

1617
02:15:39,910 --> 02:15:42,490
If I have any, they've been filed, Commissioner Campy.

1618
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:43,990
If I have any, they've been filed.

1619
02:15:44,070 --> 02:15:45,050
And Mr. Heatherington.

1620
02:15:45,110 --> 02:15:46,430
If any, they've been filed.

1621
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:51,750
Mr. Elam, if you've provided all your pertinent materials to the clerk.

1622
02:15:52,390 --> 02:15:56,850
The copy of my work history and the agenda item turned in for exhibit one.

1623
02:15:57,850 --> 02:16:03,270
anyone who's going to be providing sworn testimony please stand up raise your right hand and

1624
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:09,820
be sworn in. Do you swear or affirm the evidence you're about to give will be the truth,

1625
02:16:09,980 --> 02:16:15,280
the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you got. Thank you please proceed Mr.

1626
02:16:15,380 --> 02:16:15,760
Eland.

1627
02:16:19,130 --> 02:16:23,850
Thank you. Good morning Madam Chair and commissioners for the record Brian

1628
02:16:23,850 --> 02:16:28,850
Eland Principal planner with the Growth Management Department. I have documents provided to me

1629
02:16:28,850 --> 02:16:34,010
From Gunster, I'd like to offer an evidence as exhibit to Gunster law firm

1630
02:16:37,340 --> 02:16:37,980
represents the

1631
02:16:37,980 --> 02:16:43,800
applicant Martin Commerce Park LLC, the documents include the resumes of professionals.

1632
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:49,680
Before I begin, I wanted to point out one discrepancy and the executive summary of this

1633
02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:56,740
agenda item, and that was this value right here, where it states it's 121.95 acre portion

1634
02:16:56,740 --> 02:17:06,000
of the 167.1 acre property, that sentence should read 120.66 acre as is shown on the site

1635
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:07,440
plan and in the staff report.

1636
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:19,380
This is a request by the CD when associates on behalf

1637
02:17:19,380 --> 02:17:25,200
of Martin Commerce Park LLC for approval of the Martin Commerce Park PUD infrastructure

1638
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:30,980
final site plan including phase one and phase two final site plan consistent with the approved

1639
02:17:30,980 --> 02:17:36,320
master site plan and phasing plan. This proposal includes construction of all infrastructure

1640
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:41,340
and preserve area requirements for the entire project site. Seven buildings totally

1641
02:17:41,340 --> 02:17:49,020
approximately 485,492 square feet of gross floor area and outdoor storage. On an approximate

1642
02:17:49,020 --> 02:17:58,260
120.6.8 acre portion of the 167.1 acre property. Included with this application is a request for

1643
02:17:58,260 --> 02:18:00,560
a certificate of public facilities reservation.

1644
02:18:01,960 --> 02:18:07,040
The property is located east and adjacent to Y95 in south of southwest Martin Highway

1645
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:08,200
in Palm City.

1646
02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:15,060
The site is currently zone planning unit development by way of the Martin Commerce Park Zoning,

1647
02:18:15,340 --> 02:18:18,320
PUD zoning agreement approved on December 9, 2025.

1648
02:18:18,720 --> 02:18:20,840
The future land use for the property is industrial.

1649
02:18:23,230 --> 02:18:27,810
This application includes a plaque infrastructure final site plan and phase one and phase

1650
02:18:27,810 --> 02:18:29,570
two final site plan.

1651
02:18:45,180 --> 02:18:49,800
The planning for structure final site plan allows replanting the property to remove the existing

1652
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:52,600
martin gale, the state's residential lots.

1653
02:18:53,380 --> 02:18:57,960
Additionally this plan allows site grading, utility installation, construction of water,

1654
02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:03,540
management tracks, including stormwater retention ponds and dry retention areas for the entire project site.

1655
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:10,220
Also included in this plan is the construction of the 50 foot wide native landscaping buffer

1656
02:19:10,220 --> 02:19:16,180
along I-95, just shown all along here where borders I-95.

1657
02:19:18,820 --> 02:19:19,980
It's almost a mile long,

1658
02:19:20,020 --> 02:19:26,300
4,900 feet, I think, 50-foot wide native landscape buffer.

1659
02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:31,470
And it also includes access

1660
02:19:31,470 --> 02:19:32,890
and utility tracks.

1661
02:19:40,990 --> 02:19:44,410
The phase one and phase two, phase one and two final site plan includes

1662
02:19:44,410 --> 02:19:51,470
construction of seven buildings, total in 485,492 square feet, a gross floor area, restrictions

1663
02:19:51,470 --> 02:19:59,450
On this property, detailed in the ordinances, 1233 and 1234, and in policy 4.1b.2.6

1664
02:19:59,450 --> 02:19:59,970
of them.

1665
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:10,540
Park County, comprehensive growth management plan. This, the maximum non-residential building square footage for the entire project site to accumulate of total of 1.1 million square feet.

1666
02:20:11,140 --> 02:20:23,040
This proposal is below the 1.1 million square feet foot threshold and the property has 614,508 square feet remaining for future development.

1667
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:24,960
open space

1668
02:20:30,140 --> 02:20:37,820
provided is 48% or 80.3 acres more than double the required 20% the total

1669
02:20:37,820 --> 02:20:45,080
preserve area is 27.29 acres which includes 16.04 acres of wetland reserve, 8.51 acres

1670
02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:49,880
of wetland reserve buffer and approximately two and three quarters are restored upland

1671
02:20:49,880 --> 02:20:50,520
preserve

1672
02:20:55,610 --> 02:21:02,450
which is represented here by the very tight hatching along the buffer in this

1673
02:21:02,450 --> 02:21:08,750
areas here. The two and three quarter acre restored uplem preserve was a public benefit listed

1674
02:21:08,750 --> 02:21:13,290
in the zone, PED zone agreement, noted on the approved master site plan and shown on this

1675
02:21:13,290 --> 02:21:20,170
proposed phase one and two final site plan, as well as the plat infrastructure site plan.

1676
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:24,300
Building

1677
02:21:24,300 --> 02:21:27,900
height is below 40 feet, has shown here in this table.

1678
02:21:30,450 --> 02:21:32,550
Both management staff has approved the

1679
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:34,510
The applicant's elevation drawings

1680
02:21:53,900 --> 02:21:57,520
and alternative compliance requests to Article 4 Division

1681
02:21:57,520 --> 02:22:02,280
20 industrial design standards as detailed on the elevation drawings attached with this

1682
02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:03,300
agenda item.

1683
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:10,320
Industrial design standards only apply to structures within 600 feet of I-95, 100% Florida

1684
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:16,540
native plant species have been used throughout this project and a 4,890 foot linear foot

1685
02:22:16,540 --> 02:22:23,260
This 50-foot-wide native landscape buffer has been installed along the property line adjacent

1686
02:22:23,260 --> 02:22:24,080
to I-95.

1687
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:30,160
We'll see what to the Martin Commerce Park, PUD, Zoning, Agreement, Exhibit F, Special Conditions

1688
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:36,320
Item 9, Public Benefits, the 5.7 acre parcel of land for proposed fire station has been

1689
02:22:36,320 --> 02:22:37,300
donated to the county.

1690
02:22:38,480 --> 02:22:43,320
This proposal complies with all comprehensive growth management plan restrictions and the PUD

1691
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:44,420
Zoning Agreement.

1692
02:22:54,980 --> 02:23:00,880
Review of this project by the LP is not required due to the approved master site plan.

1693
02:23:03,620 --> 02:23:06,620
We'll review staff if found the Martin Commerce Park LLC

1694
02:23:06,620 --> 02:23:11,480
Platt infrastructure final site plan including phase one and two final site plan.

1695
02:23:11,960 --> 02:23:18,880
Application to comply with all applicable regulations and the comprehensive growth management plan is detailed in the staff report.

1696
02:23:21,070 --> 02:23:26,850
Staff recommends approval of the flat infrastructure final site plan including phase one and two final site plan.

1697
02:23:26,850 --> 02:23:29,690
application request by Martin Commerce Park LLC.

1698
02:23:30,530 --> 02:23:34,330
We move that the Board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments, including

1699
02:23:34,330 --> 02:23:36,190
the staff report, is Exhibit 1.

1700
02:23:36,970 --> 02:23:40,650
Move that the Board adopt the resolution of proving the plot infrastructure final site plan

1701
02:23:40,650 --> 02:23:42,790
for the Martin Commerce Park PUD project.

1702
02:23:43,810 --> 02:23:48,170
And move that the Board adopt the resolution of proving the phase 1 and 2 final site plan

1703
02:23:48,170 --> 02:23:50,490
for the Martin Commerce Park PUD project.

1704
02:23:50,890 --> 02:23:52,330
I concludes my presentation.

1705
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:54,030
We have to answer any questions.

1706
02:23:54,410 --> 02:23:55,710
Questions for Mr. Ilam?

1707
02:23:56,530 --> 02:24:01,570
Mr. Elam, on the portion that's being donated to Martin County in order to construct

1708
02:24:01,570 --> 02:24:04,590
the fire station, how much of that parcel is billedable?

1709
02:24:04,750 --> 02:24:05,850
How much is upland?

1710
02:24:06,330 --> 02:24:07,090
Do you know?

1711
02:24:07,090 --> 02:24:08,150
Anybody know?

1712
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:15,450
Yes, the entire 5.7 acres donated to the county for the fire is billedable upland.

1713
02:24:15,810 --> 02:24:16,170
Terrific.

1714
02:24:16,590 --> 02:24:17,230
Yes, this is the state.

1715
02:24:17,610 --> 02:24:17,870
It's the right order.

1716
02:24:19,050 --> 02:24:19,950
Station name for the right.

1717
02:24:21,010 --> 02:24:22,930
People all in deputy growth management director.

1718
02:24:23,750 --> 02:24:25,250
Applicant, do you have a presentation?

1719
02:24:25,250 --> 02:24:27,110
Good morning, Mr. Reigns.

1720
02:24:28,030 --> 02:24:28,650
Good morning, Chair.

1721
02:24:28,810 --> 02:24:30,730
Here we are again, congratulations to you on your right

1722
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:31,370
accomplishment.

1723
02:24:32,970 --> 02:24:35,470
Good morning, commissioners, for the record, my name is Bob Reigns.

1724
02:24:35,570 --> 02:24:38,850
I'm a ladies attorney with the guns for law firm here on behalf of the applicant.

1725
02:24:40,310 --> 02:24:44,730
I would like to state that we're pleased to agree with staff's

1726
02:24:44,730 --> 02:24:46,810
recommendation when we've reviewed the staff report.

1727
02:24:47,630 --> 02:24:51,370
And I would just like to emphasize that the item before you today

1728
02:24:51,370 --> 02:24:56,890
constitutes its consistent with the PUD that was previously approved the master site plan

1729
02:24:56,890 --> 02:24:59,970
and the phasing plan, and that will prove that.

1730
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:05,140
That today by providing competence, substantial evidence to that effect, and I have our entire team here.

1731
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:09,480
I would share her with your permission to ask Mr. Elym, just a couple of quick questions, if that's okay.

1732
02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:14,620
Mr. Elym, you've reviewed this project, is that correct?

1733
02:25:14,940 --> 02:25:15,460
That's correct.

1734
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:23,100
And in your professional opinion, sir, is it consistent with the master site plan and the PUD and the phasing plan that was previously approved?

1735
02:25:23,440 --> 02:25:24,340
It is consistent.

1736
02:25:24,340 --> 02:25:30,060
And is it also a consistent sir with the comprehensive plan and the land development codes for Martin County?

1737
02:25:30,860 --> 02:25:31,560
Thank you, sir.

1738
02:25:31,980 --> 02:25:33,100
I would just like to have Mr.

1739
02:25:33,460 --> 02:25:35,100
Craig to come up, make a short presentation.

1740
02:25:35,420 --> 02:25:37,600
I'll ask him a couple of quick questions if that's okay.

1741
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:39,880
And we'll try to move this along for you.

1742
02:25:42,780 --> 02:25:45,180
Mr. Craig, you'll go ahead and state your name for the ride.

1743
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:45,960
More is Tracy.

1744
02:25:46,260 --> 02:25:47,560
Any part in it with the CDO and Associate?

1745
02:25:47,720 --> 02:25:48,660
Any sense for an answer?

1746
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:49,400
I have.

1747
02:25:50,340 --> 02:25:54,680
And can we give us a quick brief summary of your work history and education?

1748
02:25:55,400 --> 02:25:55,660
Yes.

1749
02:25:55,660 --> 02:26:03,180
I've been employed by the CEDRON Associates now for almost 40 years and prior to that work for 10 years with the Martin County

1750
02:26:04,020 --> 02:26:11,120
Community growth management department has in as certified planter for over 30 years with the American Institute of Certified

1751
02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:13,080
Can you identify the document?

1752
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:18,820
Yeah, sure, my CV and that's a current. Yes. Thank you. And I have had this this is what mr.

1753
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:22,660
Elam Smitter, but I would also like to submit it as applicants exhibit. What if I could

1754
02:26:26,620 --> 02:26:32,220
So, we're here today, again, for the record, Morris Crady, here on behalf of Ashley Capitol.

1755
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:38,100
And I want to thank staff, because this has been a very long process, and we've been working

1756
02:26:38,100 --> 02:26:43,580
back and forth very well together, and staff has made sure that everything that we're doing is consistent

1757
02:26:43,580 --> 02:26:50,440
with the PUD agreement and consistent with the special conditions of the PUD agreement and the master's site plan.

1758
02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:56,460
But before I get into the details, I'll give you a little bit of a history on the process

1759
02:26:56,460 --> 02:27:01,760
that we've been going through because this all started with a vision, from our client

1760
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:09,500
Ash DeCapital Rick Morton to be exact, and also his Associate Geals Vision, and Rick

1761
02:27:09,500 --> 02:27:14,620
Rick's vision was based on decades of experience in developing these industrial parks

1762
02:27:14,620 --> 02:27:20,300
throughout the country, Jill's came to the table with her decades of experience here in the

1763
02:27:20,300 --> 02:27:26,700
local business community, identifying the needs of the local business community, and really

1764
02:27:26,700 --> 02:27:33,420
coming up with this vision based on what Martin County needs and what we think will be a successful

1765
02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:42,340
project once this developed. But it wasn't easy. You know, the client purchased the property

1766
02:27:42,340 --> 02:27:50,120
in 2022, we took about a year to come up with a text amendment and a future land use map

1767
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:55,920
amendment. We spent over 15 months working with the county and stakeholders. We had several

1768
02:27:55,920 --> 02:28:01,080
meetings with Stuart West and Cobblestone and tried to get out as much information as we

1769
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:08,360
could so it was understood exactly what we were trying to accomplish. So that was a 15-month period

1770
02:28:08,360 --> 02:28:14,080
that led to the adoption of the land use change to industrial, and also a text amendment that

1771
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:21,680
was negotiated in a unique way that included caps on the maximum development that we could put

1772
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:27,460
on the property, it included a prohibition against any residential uses, and it included a commitment

1773
02:28:27,460 --> 02:28:34,700
to build a signal at the intercept of Martin Highway and Stuart West Boulevard. So that lasted for 15

1774
02:28:34,700 --> 02:28:40,100
months and then we submitted a PUD agreement master plan. So this is the conceptual design stage.

1775
02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:48,140
So we worked out the details of the special conditions that were met for over nine months

1776
02:28:48,140 --> 02:28:54,040
during that process with stakeholders with the county staff and the commissioners and developed

1777
02:28:54,040 --> 02:29:00,200
a PUD agreement with special conditions in the master plan that kind of set the concept

1778
02:29:00,200 --> 02:29:05,560
into motion. And here we are today at the final site plan stage, looking for approval

1779
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:11,760
of phase 1 and 2, the start construction. So this includes all the construction plans for

1780
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:16,360
the site improvements, it includes the landscape plans, it includes the details of the buildings.

1781
02:29:16,980 --> 02:29:23,140
And today is reality. Today is where the actual shovel hits the ground. And it's the dirt

1782
02:29:23,140 --> 02:29:28,760
and we're hoping to start construction as soon as possible. But the site, as you all know,

1783
02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:30,920
Is it really already developed site?

1784
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:33,920
There's 23 parcels that were planted on the property.

1785
02:29:34,380 --> 02:29:38,080
There's a central road that was built and a couple of spying roads that were built.

1786
02:29:38,520 --> 02:29:42,680
So one of the things we have to do is we plant the property and we do that by way of an

1787
02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:45,900
infrastructure, a final site plan and that's before you today.

1788
02:29:46,700 --> 02:29:50,560
But I wanted just to go over the first the fact that we had to go through the master site plan

1789
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:50,920
process.

1790
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:55,900
This is the master site plan and it's been concluded that we're consistent with what we represented

1791
02:29:55,900 --> 02:29:59,960
and during the master's site plan public hearings, this is the...

1792
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:06,000
The graphic that was presented during the master site pamphlet, public hearing that shows the number of buildings that we're proposing.

1793
02:30:06,260 --> 02:30:12,760
And I'll go into more detail, because we updated that graphic now, to provide more detail on what we're actually doing.

1794
02:30:13,260 --> 02:30:21,000
But this was a slide from the original application when we were going through the PUD process and also the...

1795
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:34,860
And I use the amendment process and some of the economic benefits provided by the developer as he's trying to find a niche type of use here for local businesses to expand and recruit.

1796
02:30:35,480 --> 02:30:47,440
There'll be paying over $3 million in impact fees when they get their building permits projected about $1.2 million in annual ad valorem taxes and $600,000 in tangible personal property taxes.

1797
02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:53,500
That's all conjecture right now, but over the next course of years we've done another project

1798
02:30:53,500 --> 02:30:55,980
we'll show how that becomes reality.

1799
02:30:57,060 --> 02:31:02,460
And as we mentioned during that first presentation of the master site plan, phase one is going

1800
02:31:02,460 --> 02:31:06,920
to include all of the site infrastructure, all of the preserve area management requirements,

1801
02:31:07,660 --> 02:31:11,280
seven buildings that total almost 500,000 square feet of building area.

1802
02:31:11,640 --> 02:31:15,780
And this was designed to attract new small businesses, new industries.

1803
02:31:15,780 --> 02:31:24,320
There's a lot of flexibility and how the buildings were designed and how they're, how they're going to be operated that will attract and retain businesses within our community.

1804
02:31:24,680 --> 02:31:30,860
And this is not large-scale warehouse and distribution and it's definitely not a data center.

1805
02:31:32,980 --> 02:31:34,180
Thank you.

1806
02:31:34,900 --> 02:31:42,800
Some of the PUD benefits that we promise to provide at this time we're here now is the donation of a fire station site which has been accomplished.

1807
02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:45,520
The conversion of preserve area easements.

1808
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:49,120
A lot of these preserve areas were easements on individual lots.

1809
02:31:49,340 --> 02:31:54,740
We've taken that to the higher level and created tracks now for these areas that are

1810
02:31:54,740 --> 02:31:57,520
being maintained by the property owners association.

1811
02:31:58,380 --> 02:32:06,780
We've now restored over 2.75 acres of up on habitat for a total preservation area of 27 acres.

1812
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:11,300
We've increased the open space, as was mentioned, and all of our landscape plans were using

1813
02:32:11,300 --> 02:32:16,700
100% native species that are acclimated to this particular area of the county.

1814
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:22,800
Now, so we're here on an infrastructure final stipend, and that's required because

1815
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:26,560
we have these existing 23 lots out there that aren't in the right spot.

1816
02:32:26,900 --> 02:32:32,020
So we have to reclat, even though there's no intention of actually selling individual lots

1817
02:32:32,020 --> 02:32:37,420
to another developer, this is going to be developed by actually capital, capital,

1818
02:32:42,660 --> 02:32:42,660
and

1819
02:32:42,660 --> 02:32:49,660
because we had to get rid of the old lots and create new lots that were consistent with the master site plan that the county approved.

1820
02:32:50,460 --> 02:32:53,900
The infrastructure site plan includes all the preserving management plan requirements.

1821
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:56,340
We moved all the, actually that work's been done already.

1822
02:32:56,460 --> 02:32:59,880
They've been working out there for the last three years or five years,

1823
02:33:01,240 --> 02:33:07,940
removing exotic vegetation and cleaning up those areas and we've worked on the restoration of those preserve areas ever since.

1824
02:33:07,940 --> 02:33:13,680
So it includes all of the lakes and stormwater treatment areas, including which also includes native landscape.

1825
02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:21,060
So all of the lakes in the dry retention areas are going to be built by the developer upfront as part of the first phase.

1826
02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:27,720
It includes the construction and landscaping of the 50-foot wide, mile long native landscape buffer along 95.

1827
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:36,820
All the water and wastewater treatment facilities, including fire protection system and utilities, will be built with this infrastructure phase, which is phase one.

1828
02:33:36,820 --> 02:33:42,640
and all the internal street and access improvements, including the signalization of Martin Highway intersection,

1829
02:33:43,420 --> 02:33:45,060
will be built with phase one.

1830
02:33:45,460 --> 02:33:51,240
And all this has to be accomplished prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy for any of the buildings.

1831
02:33:52,840 --> 02:33:56,600
So then we go from there to a phase one and two final site plan.

1832
02:33:56,740 --> 02:34:01,060
Phase one included the infrastructure development that I just talked about,

1833
02:34:01,340 --> 02:34:04,600
but it also includes the actual development on the lot.

1834
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:13,800
And so we have to go through the final site plan to prove what to get the building permits for the buildings and to construct the parking and everything on the individual lots.

1835
02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:23,660
And phase one lot is a big lot, it's 35.8 acre in size, but includes six buildings and totaling about 376,000 square feet.

1836
02:34:23,940 --> 02:34:33,740
Smallest building again being 32,000 square feet up to 116, a lot of variety in size and type in order to attract multiple users and tenants.

1837
02:34:33,740 --> 02:34:40,900
The phase two includes just one building of 109,000 square feet on 6.3 acres.

1838
02:34:41,980 --> 02:34:48,600
So the phase one and two final site plan authorizes the construction of the parking, the outdoor loading, and storage areas,

1839
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:55,440
and a dissonal native landscape areas on the lot itself that all must be completed prior to SEO for any of those buildings.

1840
02:34:59,110 --> 02:34:59,950
So this is what...

1841
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,960
And the infrastructure final site panel looks like. I know there's a lot of details and data on there, but it basically is the future plat. And if you look on your plans, there was a preliminary a plat attached to the infrastructure final site plan. The staff wants to make sure that what we fill in the site plan is consistent with the plat. So we now do a preliminary plat with the site plan that proposes a plat. So this is the overall infrastructure landscape plan. Again, a lot of data and analysis, the county staff was

1842
02:35:29,960 --> 02:35:35,520
very careful, making sure that we met every single piece of your code and requirements.

1843
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:39,820
So we have to put a lot of information on these plans to document compliance.

1844
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:44,440
And we did the same with the phase one and two final cycling.

1845
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:48,780
But rather than trying to explain all this in detail, the best way to understand what we're

1846
02:35:48,780 --> 02:35:55,500
doing is whether it updated color rendering of the project and just going to what's been

1847
02:35:55,500 --> 02:36:02,080
changed. This is now no longer proposed, there is a almost a six acre fire station site that

1848
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:06,220
has been donated to Martin County. All of this land is usable, so all the land that the

1849
02:36:06,220 --> 02:36:12,920
house, the hope has, all the land that the church has there. This is 19 acres of 100% usable

1850
02:36:12,920 --> 02:36:17,960
property. The only preservation area is this existing conservation easement right here and the

1851
02:36:17,960 --> 02:36:24,320
preserve area that's actually on our property. The proposed signalized intersection is now

1852
02:36:24,320 --> 02:36:29,720
approved, it's under permit, it's going under permit, and we should have construction

1853
02:36:29,720 --> 02:36:35,900
or permit, again, has to be built prior to the first CO of the first building.

1854
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:41,300
And this is all being permitted within the DOT right away, so that we're working out all those details and

1855
02:36:41,300 --> 02:36:44,460
concert with the county, but primarily with DOT.

1856
02:36:45,980 --> 02:36:51,500
As I mentioned, the Preserve area is now a preserved track, so it's a area that's

1857
02:36:51,500 --> 02:36:55,860
dedicated to the P.O.A. that will be maintained by the P.O.A. in accordance with the

1858
02:36:55,860 --> 02:37:00,060
Preserve Area Management Plan. The other infrastructure improvements includes these

1859
02:37:00,060 --> 02:37:05,360
lakes and these dry retention areas that are going to be built again as part of phase

1860
02:37:05,360 --> 02:37:13,520
one and including the 50 foot landscape buffer along i.95. This existing lake will be expanded to

1861
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:17,860
accommodate additional retention and this the lake will be modified to accommodate

1862
02:37:17,860 --> 02:37:22,920
additional retention. And all of these areas, these common areas are being planted with native

1863
02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:29,780
landscaping. Lot one has its own landscape plant. These are the six buildings in lot one.

1864
02:37:30,920 --> 02:37:38,440
And again, the lot limits are basically what you see that's paved. Everything outside the lot is a

1865
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:43,360
is a common track. So this is there's a right away here. This will be a right away track.

1866
02:37:43,360 --> 02:37:50,700
These are access tracks that provide access to these future lots, and again, we're we re-planeted the property

1867
02:37:50,700 --> 02:37:58,140
And to a lot one, which is the six buildings 35.88 acres, lot two is building number 14.

1868
02:37:58,260 --> 02:38:00,600
It's the seventh building in this phase, however.

1869
02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:04,320
And then lots six, you can see a lot four.

1870
02:38:04,660 --> 02:38:09,320
We'll have three buildings on it, lot five, lot six, lot three, lot seven.

1871
02:38:09,320 --> 02:38:15,380
So all those are now planted lots and they're suitable for development and you won't

1872
02:38:15,380 --> 02:38:16,100
see this again.

1873
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:20,960
Those lots are, we'll now that we develop the infrastructure, final site plan, you see that

1874
02:38:20,960 --> 02:38:23,040
we're meeting all the requirements of the code.

1875
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:28,200
These future buildings on these other lots that will be planted will be go through the county

1876
02:38:28,200 --> 02:38:30,080
administrative review process.

1877
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:31,740
So we won't have to come back to the board.

1878
02:38:32,540 --> 02:38:35,880
So right now we're in the process of the architecture busy.

1879
02:38:35,880 --> 02:38:40,560
there, they're creating the building plans for the actual building construction.

1880
02:38:41,300 --> 02:38:48,900
Before we can even get there, again, we've got a lot of common area improvements to do, but

1881
02:38:48,900 --> 02:38:54,960
these architectural, you know, they're all going to be consistent and all under 40 feet per

1882
02:38:54,960 --> 02:38:58,160
the requirements and the PUD agreement.

1883
02:38:59,220 --> 02:39:03,580
And with that, I'll be glad to answer any questions we have our development team here as well.

1884
02:39:03,580 --> 02:39:15,340
And just a couple questions more for you, so in your professional opinion, this project, this before the board today is consistent with the approved PUD, the approved master site plan and the phasing plan.

1885
02:39:15,900 --> 02:39:20,620
And it's also consistent with the Martin County Comprehensive Land Development Code and Comprehensive Plan.

1886
02:39:20,960 --> 02:39:21,640
Yes. Thank you.

1887
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:26,680
Yep. So that does conclude. Again, it's more said we have our team here, and thank you for your time.

1888
02:39:27,160 --> 02:39:27,700
Questions?

1889
02:39:34,260 --> 02:39:41,040
I don't believe there is, but if there is any public comment, I'd speak afterwards.

1890
02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:41,920
Mr. Vargas.

1891
02:39:45,620 --> 02:39:49,960
I'm familiar with this project, and I think several months back when I did speak with

1892
02:39:49,960 --> 02:39:56,300
the team from Ashley Capital, and specifically, and you've gone over this, and this seems

1893
02:39:56,300 --> 02:39:59,440
to have been a green meeting, and I did ask the questions.

1894
02:39:59,440 --> 02:39:59,920
to preserve.

1895
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:20,400
Of the trees, I got a resounding, yes, the original trees. Because I know that if they were to be bulldozed in lieu of you could pay, but you could never replace the tree it takes years to grow. The other thing that I noticed here, and I did forget to ask when I had my meeting, about the go for tortoises. I see there are going to be relocated, hopefully on the property.

1896
02:40:23,290 --> 02:40:23,490
Anybody?

1897
02:40:23,490 --> 02:40:24,490
We

1898
02:40:27,660 --> 02:40:32,340
do have an environmental consultant here, but the habitat on the side is not suitable for

1899
02:40:32,340 --> 02:40:32,860
relocation.

1900
02:40:32,960 --> 02:40:38,060
They're actually in the the bar room along 95 is where most of them were there in a man-made

1901
02:40:38,060 --> 02:40:39,080
environment to begin with.

1902
02:40:39,820 --> 02:40:43,560
I believe we'll take, want you to tell us how where it goes from here.

1903
02:40:46,020 --> 02:40:46,920
Where are they go?

1904
02:40:47,260 --> 02:40:52,140
Jason Honner, EW consultants, environmental scientist, project manager on behalf of the applicant.

1905
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:53,820
Have you been sworn in sir?

1906
02:40:53,820 --> 02:41:07,280
I rose my hand. Yes, man. Okay, so the FWC would not allow for on-site relocation. In this case, the on-site habitat would not be considered suitable enough for on-site relocation.

1907
02:41:07,960 --> 02:41:18,000
FWC would require that those toruses are relocated off-site. So they go to permanent lands that have been restored or managed in perpetuity for the good for toruses benefit.

1908
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,380
So you're going to take them out to Palm City?

1909
02:41:21,060 --> 02:41:21,380
No, man.

1910
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:22,860
They, um, three Palm City.

1911
02:41:23,800 --> 02:41:26,560
They, uh, I don't know if they really belong in their own site.

1912
02:41:26,880 --> 02:41:30,100
Because I see it the back of the property away from my 95.

1913
02:41:30,280 --> 02:41:32,600
You have a lot of natural lands there.

1914
02:41:32,780 --> 02:41:33,640
Wouldn't that be more appropriate?

1915
02:41:34,120 --> 02:41:36,240
It so would not meet FWC's criteria.

1916
02:41:36,840 --> 02:41:37,120
My.

1917
02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:40,700
FWC has a lot of very specific criteria.

1918
02:41:41,060 --> 02:41:44,120
Um, I've helped permit the only recipient site in Mark County.

1919
02:41:44,960 --> 02:41:45,960
Uh, that's under my name.

1920
02:41:45,960 --> 02:41:48,180
and some very familiar with FWC's requirements.

1921
02:41:50,020 --> 02:41:53,520
I could tell you the onsite conditions would not be suitable in FWC's eyes.

1922
02:41:53,780 --> 02:41:53,980
Why?

1923
02:41:54,560 --> 02:41:55,340
Give me one reason.

1924
02:41:56,300 --> 02:41:59,840
Vegetation coverage, drainage requirements,

1925
02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:02,380
easing requirements, habitat requirements,

1926
02:42:03,320 --> 02:42:05,960
size requirements, stocking capacities.

1927
02:42:06,940 --> 02:42:07,880
It's a long list.

1928
02:42:08,080 --> 02:42:11,040
There's a lot of criteria involved in determining whether

1929
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:13,180
an onsite in their off-site relocation is feasible.

1930
02:42:13,180 --> 02:42:21,320
Yeah, I've read quite a bit about this and they do flourish better in their natural environment where they're found.

1931
02:42:21,400 --> 02:42:28,080
I understand what you said about it being man-made area, but at least if they're moved to the other site, the other site of the property.

1932
02:42:28,720 --> 02:42:29,400
Is that not doable?

1933
02:42:29,820 --> 02:42:30,340
No, ma'am.

1934
02:42:30,880 --> 02:42:39,440
And the recipient sites that are permitted to receive the tours are managed specifically to receive the tours in overseen by FWC.

1935
02:42:40,860 --> 02:42:42,200
So where are you taking them?

1936
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:50,220
They'll be going to, um, it's a ranch, um, but it's permitted to, to receive the tortoises, uh,

1937
02:42:50,460 --> 02:42:56,280
be a, be out of the county. Which county? Um, another county, I'd have to check and see exactly where it's located.

1938
02:42:56,480 --> 02:43:01,420
It's a recipient site that receives a lot of the tortoises from around here. Well, I hope they don't

1939
02:43:01,420 --> 02:43:05,580
try to walk back, you know, because this does happen. No, um, there's measures that are taking

1940
02:43:05,580 --> 02:43:09,580
to make sure that doesn't happen. I understand, because I've toured that, you know, to see there.

1941
02:43:09,580 --> 02:43:13,360
your fans staff and watched.

1942
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:18,480
Would anyone from the public like to address us?

1943
02:43:18,900 --> 02:43:20,540
Seeing Mr. Heatherington.

1944
02:43:21,620 --> 02:43:22,400
I just had a question.

1945
02:43:22,880 --> 02:43:23,900
Maybe it was for more.

1946
02:43:24,640 --> 02:43:30,100
So the DOT finally you said approved the DOT finally warranted the signal?

1947
02:43:33,340 --> 02:43:35,860
Our traffic consultants speak to the Stephanie.

1948
02:43:38,310 --> 02:43:38,790
Good morning.

1949
02:43:39,550 --> 02:43:47,810
So, yes, so we received the pre-application approval letter from FDOT and we've been going through permitting for the actual designing construction plans.

1950
02:43:48,310 --> 02:43:52,970
So we've received some comments and we anticipate receiving permits in the next few months.

1951
02:43:53,370 --> 02:43:57,210
All right, so then you can start construction once you receive the permits. Correct.

1952
02:43:57,730 --> 02:44:03,550
It's so badly needed that traffic signal on that road. So I look forward to it being constructed.

1953
02:44:04,650 --> 02:44:06,450
Please identify yourself for the record please.

1954
02:44:06,450 --> 02:44:10,950
I apologize for the record, Stephanie Gera, I'm a transportation engineer with Kimli Horton

1955
02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:11,570
Associates.

1956
02:44:12,730 --> 02:44:13,790
And I have been sworn in.

1957
02:44:14,070 --> 02:44:14,270
I apologize.

1958
02:44:14,730 --> 02:44:15,170
Thank you.

1959
02:44:15,650 --> 02:44:19,790
And Commissioner Hart, if I could chair her just for the record, I have also turned

1960
02:44:19,790 --> 02:44:24,890
their resumes in for both of those as part of the applicant package that was sent in.

1961
02:44:24,890 --> 02:44:25,530
Okay, thanks.

1962
02:44:25,870 --> 02:44:26,450
Thank you.

1963
02:44:26,750 --> 02:44:27,310
Commissioner Heard.

1964
02:44:28,610 --> 02:44:34,910
It's been quite a journey to get here as Mr. Crady had lead out in the timing in his brief

1965
02:44:34,910 --> 02:44:49,210
He discussed five, six years, and a couple of minutes, but the amount of time effort on our staff to review it on the applicant and the consultants I want to say thank you.

1966
02:44:49,510 --> 02:44:59,790
We have had this come before us many times. I normally beat the drum pretty soundly on behalf of the project simply because the timing is perfect, you know.

1967
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,800
Where there's a lot of us talk about amendment 3 in what that will mean and in certain counties, it won't have the same impact that it will hear.

1968
02:45:08,800 --> 02:45:14,240
Ron County is very, very heavily reliant on residential property taxes.

1969
02:45:15,260 --> 02:45:22,860
We are really lopsided in regards to our mix of commercial and industrial versus residential

1970
02:45:23,870 --> 02:45:30,500
to have someone come forward and be willing to take on the tremendous expense and time

1971
02:45:30,500 --> 02:45:35,160
and effort to bring a project of this scale to us.

1972
02:45:35,160 --> 02:45:39,660
I'm very pleased, in terms of the location, it could not be better.

1973
02:45:40,260 --> 02:45:46,020
It's adjacent to 95 with an exit right there, so a lot of the traffic that will be generated

1974
02:45:46,020 --> 02:45:51,660
whether it's truck traffic or vehicular traffic will come and go directly on and off of 95.

1975
02:45:52,140 --> 02:45:59,840
It's west of the term pikes, so you could exit the term pikes, travel west on 714 and be at

1976
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:05,500
property, so you're not coming through a majority of the sort of more

1977
02:46:05,500 --> 02:46:08,740
commercial neighborhoods of Palm City.

1978
02:46:10,520 --> 02:46:15,580
The applicant, I mean we've heard quite a bit about Ashley Capital, the Rick

1979
02:46:15,580 --> 02:46:22,080
Morton and his team from out of the county have duplicated this, or I guess this would

1980
02:46:22,080 --> 02:46:28,540
be the duplication, have successfully accomplished what they're looking to do here in many

1981
02:46:28,540 --> 02:46:33,440
states in many projects. And so it's not like, hey, you know, sometimes we have applicants

1982
02:46:33,440 --> 02:46:37,960
come forward and have a vision or a dream and we have to sort of take them at their word

1983
02:46:37,960 --> 02:46:44,700
that they'll be able to accomplish what they say they can and will want to accomplish. But then

1984
02:46:44,700 --> 02:46:50,360
for whatever reason, sometimes it doesn't happen. This case, we know that there's a long multi-decade

1985
02:46:50,360 --> 02:46:56,140
history of this. Beyond that when they came to town and I had the opportunity to meet with

1986
02:46:56,140 --> 02:47:00,460
to Morton. He said that he wanted to be involved in the community. Everybody tells us that.

1987
02:47:00,560 --> 02:47:03,960
We're going to be community partners. We're going to get involved in the community. We're going to

1988
02:47:03,960 --> 02:47:09,920
assist in not-for-profits and the local schools and the thing. I would tell you, I don't know if anyone has

1989
02:47:09,920 --> 02:47:18,160
done it more so, more of generously than the Morton's in Ashley Capital. Then the other issue is sometimes

1990
02:47:18,160 --> 02:47:24,100
folks that come from out of town don't traditionally understand the landscape that they're

1991
02:47:24,100 --> 02:47:29,440
themselves into the circumstances that they're getting themselves into and I've heard they say don't worry about it.

1992
02:47:29,580 --> 02:47:29,980
We're professionals.

1993
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:31,480
We know how to do this.

1994
02:47:31,900 --> 02:47:33,140
Ashley Capital didn't do that.

1995
02:47:33,360 --> 02:47:40,240
They hired a local team led by Jim Marasa, who, if you're not familiar, she was with our

1996
02:47:40,240 --> 02:47:45,340
Martin County BDB and then went up to St. Lucy County and worked with their economic council

1997
02:47:45,340 --> 02:47:47,300
and has had a tremendous track record.

1998
02:47:47,320 --> 02:47:51,380
She's a Palm City resident, her kids grew up in went to school here.

1999
02:47:51,380 --> 02:47:56,900
they she then put a team together so I mean this is as far as I'm concerned the perfect project

2000
02:47:57,460 --> 02:48:03,100
brought to us by the perfect people so my big thing about the three peas the project the place and the people

2001
02:48:03,560 --> 02:48:11,080
check all of the boxes they donated property that would have cost us millions and millions of dollars to build a fire station

2002
02:48:11,080 --> 02:48:13,520
they donated the site

2003
02:48:14,680 --> 02:48:20,940
for a fire station that Western Palm City and Western Martin County has been desperate to have and probably

2004
02:48:20,940 --> 02:48:26,100
We wouldn't have been able to put the finances together to do that at least any time in the foreseeable

2005
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:26,520
future.

2006
02:48:27,060 --> 02:48:32,480
They've also made generous donations to the House of Hope and the Church, to coastal

2007
02:48:32,480 --> 02:48:33,400
life church out there.

2008
02:48:33,740 --> 02:48:37,820
So I mean, I sound like I'm gushing because it's really well done project.

2009
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:41,560
Now it will also pay property taxes and it will also hire people.

2010
02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:43,740
It's also going to protect the environment.

2011
02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:49,780
They were very respectful of their next door neighbors or across the street neighbors who we

2012
02:48:49,780 --> 02:48:56,600
know that Stewart and Weston cobblestone are not shy. And there is a reason that none of them are here today

2013
02:48:56,600 --> 02:49:04,200
because they have embraced the project, not every single family necessarily, but universally have embraced the project,

2014
02:49:04,420 --> 02:49:10,900
because the project embraced them. And so I'm thrilled. And I wish that this could be a

2015
02:49:10,900 --> 02:49:18,100
start of something where other applicants will look at this. I said the same thing about night-kippinger.

2016
02:49:18,100 --> 02:49:23,400
we call it the Kipplinger process. We could almost think about an Ashley capital process and

2017
02:49:23,400 --> 02:49:29,160
tip forever and the cost of fortune for them. But how well done. And so today, as Mr.

2018
02:49:29,220 --> 02:49:34,900
Crady said, we're putting hopefully the shovel into the dirt. All of these other agenda items

2019
02:49:34,900 --> 02:49:42,820
were like sheer pepper allies, these for me. Now we get to actually see the work just in time

2020
02:49:42,820 --> 02:49:52,540
that we might need to beef up our tax base with more industrial and commercial businesses

2021
02:49:52,540 --> 02:49:53,740
to come our way.

2022
02:49:54,060 --> 02:49:58,980
So I happily make a motion to accept staff's recommendation with all of the caveats that

2023
02:49:58,980 --> 02:49:59,960
were layered into it.

2024
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:04,000
Thank you. I will happily second. It's a great project.

2025
02:50:05,920 --> 02:50:16,680
Mr. Caps. I'd like to commend you for your use of native plants and remind everyone why that's

2026
02:50:16,680 --> 02:50:26,700
important. Native species do not require all of the fertilizers and chemicals that

2027
02:50:26,700 --> 02:50:37,180
non-native species require, and oftentimes, when you think about what is native, the

2028
02:50:37,180 --> 02:50:44,920
list is shorter, seemingly than many people think. Generally, if they have really beautiful

2029
02:50:44,920 --> 02:50:49,920
flowers, they're probably not native. So keep that in mind,

2030
02:50:51,980 --> 02:50:55,060
and we all need to focus on doing

2031
02:50:55,060 --> 02:51:02,700
now we can to use native plants because that's all that fertilizer gets in the waterways

2032
02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:03,380
eventually.

2033
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:08,440
So if we change some of our practices, that'll get better.

2034
02:51:10,360 --> 02:51:12,460
There's a motion in the second, all those in favor.

2035
02:51:12,940 --> 02:51:13,960
I'm opposed.

2036
02:51:14,420 --> 02:51:15,660
That motion passes unanimously.

2037
02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:16,900
Thank you.

2038
02:51:19,300 --> 02:51:27,740
Let's take up a agenda item, Department 1, Office of Management and Budget items, which require

2039
02:51:27,740 --> 02:51:28,620
Board approval.

2040
02:51:31,940 --> 02:51:32,400
Ms. Murley.

2041
02:51:38,110 --> 02:51:39,110
Good afternoon.

2042
02:51:39,470 --> 02:51:43,890
Commissioner Stephanie Murley here to present to you the OMB item, there's seven items today

2043
02:51:43,890 --> 02:51:45,170
for your consideration.

2044
02:51:46,590 --> 02:51:53,210
Our first item is permission to apply for the FY2728 Florida Department of Environmental Protection

2045
02:51:53,210 --> 02:51:59,290
or the FTEP Resilient Florida Infrastructure Grant for a Boy Scout Island Stabilization Project.

2046
02:51:59,950 --> 02:52:07,750
Our Public Works Department is requesting a grant application of $400,000 to provide funds

2047
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:13,770
for the stabilization of Boy Scout Island within the Indian River Lagoon using a hybrid living

2048
02:52:13,770 --> 02:52:19,010
shoreline design to benefit local maintain channels within the intercostal waterway and preserve

2049
02:52:19,010 --> 02:52:25,410
voting access. The grant requires a match of $400,000, which is expected to come from a future

2050
02:52:25,410 --> 02:52:28,110
Florida inland navigation district or fine grant.

2051
02:52:32,700 --> 02:52:34,940
Our second item is a permission to apply for

2052
02:52:34,940 --> 02:52:42,880
the FY2627 FDEP Resilient Florida grant for the NC2 shoreline stabilization project. Our public

2053
02:52:42,880 --> 02:52:49,620
works department is requesting application of a grant for $500,000 to construct a break water

2054
02:52:49,620 --> 02:52:54,260
to stabilize the shoreline, add film material, and plant main groves that will improve the

2055
02:52:54,260 --> 02:52:57,160
quality of nesting on bird island critical wildlife area.

2056
02:52:57,780 --> 02:53:03,280
There is a grant match of 500,000, which is programmed within the FY27 ecosystem management

2057
02:53:03,280 --> 02:53:04,020
CIP.

2058
02:53:07,760 --> 02:53:12,600
Item number three is a permission to apply for funding from the Florida-Inland Navigation District

2059
02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:14,760
for a derelict vessel removal funds.

2060
02:53:15,120 --> 02:53:22,600
Our building department is requesting the grant award of $53,482.50 for the

2061
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:27,680
reimbursement of 14 vessels that have been determined to be a derelict and have been already

2062
02:53:27,680 --> 02:53:36,600
removed and expanded. There is a grant match. That is $17,827 that has been absorbed within

2063
02:53:36,600 --> 02:53:39,400
the derelict vessel removal program that already been expanded.

2064
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:44,630
Item number four is the permission

2065
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:51,110
to accept the fine project agreement amendment for the Charlie Leaton Park boat ramp renovation.

2066
02:53:51,110 --> 02:53:54,970
This is just a non-monetary amendment for a time extension.

2067
02:53:55,890 --> 02:54:00,210
So the Parks and Recreation Department can complete the construction of the project.

2068
02:54:00,250 --> 02:54:03,990
There's no additional funds required for this amendment for a time extension.

2069
02:54:06,880 --> 02:54:13,260
Item number five is a permission to accept the BJA FY25 Edward Burn Memorial Justice Assistance Grant

2070
02:54:13,260 --> 02:54:14,440
or a Jag program.

2071
02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:22,640
Our Martin County Sheriff's Office is requesting the acceptance of $21,112 for their traffic

2072
02:54:22,640 --> 02:54:28,360
unit to enhance traffic, crash, investigation, and roadway safety operations through the acquisition

2073
02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:32,420
of a laser scanning system, and there's no grant match required for this item.

2074
02:54:35,870 --> 02:54:40,730
Item number six is a permission to accept the emergency management preparedness and assistance

2075
02:54:40,730 --> 02:54:42,470
trust fund or MPa grant.

2076
02:54:42,490 --> 02:54:47,170
This is an annual operating grant that our emergency management division receives.

2077
02:54:47,170 --> 02:54:54,030
They're requesting the acceptance of 105,806 dollars to enhance planning projects, provide

2078
02:54:54,030 --> 02:54:59,790
for technology equipment and supplies, as well as meet program mandates for the emergency management.

2079
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,460
And there is no grant match required.

2080
02:55:05,420 --> 02:55:31,320
Item number 7 is adjustments to the FY26 budget. Item A is a budget resolution to accept that 2526 ship funding. We are in receipt of an additional $34,787 in ship funds. The funding is used for qualified households with sewer and water hookups, home demolition and replacement and rental assistance. And the Office of Management and Budget is just requesting the adoption of a budget resolution.

2081
02:55:31,320 --> 02:55:34,740
to allocate this additional funding for ship.

2082
02:55:35,500 --> 02:55:41,340
And the last item is just a budget transfer from utilities capital reserves for a project.

2083
02:55:41,580 --> 02:55:52,940
Utilities and solid waste is requesting a transfer from their capital reserves in order to advance a project for the

2084
02:55:52,940 --> 02:55:58,260
Tropical Farms reverse osmosis well number A. This project was approved by the B.O.C.

2085
02:55:58,260 --> 02:56:03,460
C. during FY25 workshop. It is now fully designed and ready for construction and funds

2086
02:56:03,460 --> 02:56:10,340
are available in the Utilities Fund. Enterprise capital reserves in the amount of 528,892 dollars

2087
02:56:10,340 --> 02:56:14,860
to start that project. And that's all I have today. Questions from Ms. Gurley?

2088
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:20,250
I'll make a motion to approve.

2089
02:56:20,970 --> 02:56:21,730
Mr. Caps.

2090
02:56:21,910 --> 02:56:24,910
I'll second, and I would like to thank our partners.

2091
02:56:25,610 --> 02:56:28,690
I was noticing who they are.

2092
02:56:28,890 --> 02:56:31,710
There's a Florida Department of Environmental Protection,

2093
02:56:33,270 --> 02:56:35,510
Florida Island Navigation District.

2094
02:56:38,800 --> 02:56:42,000
I think we have one here, Florida Department of Emergency Management.

2095
02:56:43,320 --> 02:56:44,060
Did I miss anybody?

2096
02:56:46,920 --> 02:56:52,980
The Department of Justice for the Martin County Sheriff's Office for the chair of some of us.

2097
02:56:53,040 --> 02:56:59,080
Commissioner Camping, did you mention Edward Burns, his family, that memorial's fund has been decades.

2098
02:57:01,440 --> 02:57:04,540
Yes, the Burns family as well.

2099
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:05,600
And I will second.

2100
02:57:06,480 --> 02:57:08,600
There's a motion in the second to all those in favor.

2101
02:57:09,420 --> 02:57:11,840
I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

2102
02:57:11,840 --> 02:57:13,840
Thank you.

2103
02:57:17,300 --> 02:57:24,400
Moving on to Department 3 requested adoption of the Martin County Library System, 2027, 2029,

2104
02:57:24,680 --> 02:57:26,540
long-range services plan.

2105
02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:27,580
The Solis.

2106
02:57:28,920 --> 02:57:29,560
Good afternoon.

2107
02:57:30,080 --> 02:57:31,100
Good afternoon, Jen Salis.

2108
02:57:31,460 --> 02:57:32,000
Library Director.

2109
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:38,340
Today I'm presenting to you the Library's 2027, 2029 long-range services plan.

2110
02:57:38,780 --> 02:57:44,020
This plan is a three-year framework, which guides library staff in our services, resources,

2111
02:57:44,020 --> 02:57:49,220
priorities and keeping us accountable to the residents that we serve. The plan is

2112
02:57:49,220 --> 02:57:54,040
required by the State Library to qualify it for us the State Aid to Library's

2113
02:57:54,040 --> 02:57:58,540
grant and while the plan is written primarily for library staff we do post it on

2114
02:57:58,540 --> 02:58:03,920
our county website so that our residents can review the plan at any time. The

2115
02:58:03,920 --> 02:58:08,180
timing of this plan is particularly relevant given the fiscal uncertainty we are

2116
02:58:08,180 --> 02:58:13,860
facing however we did begin working on this plan year and a half ago before any of

2117
02:58:13,860 --> 02:58:15,900
legislative discussions for occurring.

2118
02:58:16,700 --> 02:58:20,280
Our theme for this plan is simple, simplify our processes,

2119
02:58:20,960 --> 02:58:25,200
reconnect to our core services, and some set or streamlined services

2120
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:28,420
that are no longer providing sufficient value to our residents.

2121
02:58:29,260 --> 02:58:33,540
Our previous plans focused on adding new services to our library system.

2122
02:58:34,000 --> 02:58:39,580
So over the past 15 years, we have added new services and expanded services.

2123
02:58:39,580 --> 02:58:46,080
for teenagers, small business owners, older adults, and the neurodiverton population, among

2124
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:51,420
many others. But this planning cycle is different. Rather than asking what else can we

2125
02:58:51,420 --> 02:58:57,760
add, we are asking, what are we doing now, what value does it serve, and is it the best use

2126
02:58:57,760 --> 02:59:03,560
of our limited resources. So I'm going to briefly take you through the three sections of our plan.

2127
02:59:03,560 --> 02:59:15,320
You'll notice that each of the sections, they have a bench marking for keeping us accountable to our goals and making sure that we're meeting those goals.

2128
02:59:16,440 --> 02:59:20,540
So the first section in our plan does focus on our core services.

2129
02:59:21,360 --> 02:59:22,780
Let me just get to that point.

2130
02:59:24,440 --> 02:59:27,320
For us, our staff are at the heart of our core services.

2131
02:59:27,320 --> 02:59:34,360
So we invest in having well-trained employees, clear procedures, and accountability for how services are delivered.

2132
02:59:35,260 --> 02:59:44,320
That investment in our staff and our procedures ultimately allows us to provide a consistent professional service to our residents while also operating efficiently.

2133
02:59:45,320 --> 02:59:50,480
Another core service is our collection and materials, which includes both our print and our digital collections.

2134
02:59:50,480 --> 02:59:59,900
We continuously evaluate usage and community interests so that our purchasing decisions are intentional and our collection dollars are going

2135
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,540
Toward Materials that our residents really want and use. The second section in this plan focuses

2136
03:00:08,540 --> 03:00:14,560
on simplifying, sun setting, and streamlining our services. So libraries are naturally collaborative

2137
03:00:14,560 --> 03:00:20,000
organizations, and we are frequently approached by individuals and organizations with excellent

2138
03:00:20,000 --> 03:00:26,280
ideas for new programs, new partnerships, and new services. Historically, our instinct has always

2139
03:00:26,280 --> 03:00:33,560
to say yes and to find a way to do those collaborations. But every new service requires resources,

2140
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:39,440
whether that be staff time, technology, supplies, or ongoing maintenance. So this plan

2141
03:00:39,440 --> 03:00:45,860
gives our staff the tools to politely decline delay or reconsider collaborations when they do

2142
03:00:45,860 --> 03:00:51,560
not align with our priorities. This part of the plan isn't about eliminating services,

2143
03:00:51,800 --> 03:00:56,000
simply to reduce the number of things we do. It is about making sure the services we provide

2144
03:00:56,000 --> 03:01:02,120
are worth the resources required to provide them, and using technology to improve access, reduce

2145
03:01:02,120 --> 03:01:09,080
duplication, and increase efficiency. And that ties into our third section, which focuses

2146
03:01:09,080 --> 03:01:15,260
on technology and digital literacy. Technology has significantly expanded what our library system

2147
03:01:15,260 --> 03:01:20,160
can offer our residents. It has also allowed us to reach residents who may not have previously

2148
03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:25,660
considered the library to be a resource for them. For example, we continue to receive inquiries

2149
03:01:25,660 --> 03:01:31,280
from other library systems about our flight simulator program and our AI chatbot.

2150
03:01:31,780 --> 03:01:36,620
We also receive feedback about our Maker space instructional workshops and that the

2151
03:01:36,620 --> 03:01:41,240
library is providing access to equipment and instruction that residents would not otherwise

2152
03:01:41,240 --> 03:01:42,700
have available to them.

2153
03:01:43,240 --> 03:01:48,020
These are good examples of innovation that provides a clear benefit to our community and

2154
03:01:48,020 --> 03:01:52,740
our goal is to continue innovating while making sure we are consistent with our resources and

2155
03:01:52,740 --> 03:01:53,460
core mission.

2156
03:01:54,080 --> 03:02:00,940
Another thing that I added to the agenda item was our primary messages document, it's

2157
03:02:00,940 --> 03:02:03,800
referenced within the long-range services plan multiple times.

2158
03:02:04,220 --> 03:02:09,440
This is a one-paged informational resource, it's created for library staff, our volunteers,

2159
03:02:09,800 --> 03:02:14,100
and our library board of trustees, so that they can use this when speaking with residents

2160
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:15,380
and community groups.

2161
03:02:15,860 --> 03:02:20,240
It provides information about the value of our library system, highlights the services that

2162
03:02:20,240 --> 03:02:25,920
may be particularly useful to different populations and it helps clarify the different sources

2163
03:02:25,920 --> 03:02:27,000
of library funding.

2164
03:02:28,160 --> 03:02:32,480
So I recognize that the fiscal environment over the next several years require difficult

2165
03:02:32,480 --> 03:02:37,940
choices or may, and this plan is intended to help us in making those choices deliberately

2166
03:02:37,940 --> 03:02:39,680
rather than reactively.

2167
03:02:40,680 --> 03:02:46,100
So with that, staff recommend that the board adopt the libraries 2027 to 2029 long-range services

2168
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:48,480
plan and I'm happy to answer any questions.

2169
03:02:48,820 --> 03:02:49,380
Questions?

2170
03:02:50,860 --> 03:02:55,720
I'm sure that there's a agreement that we all think that our library system is the finest

2171
03:02:55,720 --> 03:02:56,280
in Florida.

2172
03:02:56,380 --> 03:02:57,400
Yes, we do.

2173
03:02:58,000 --> 03:02:58,840
Thank you.

2174
03:02:58,920 --> 03:02:59,300
I wish you could.

2175
03:02:59,700 --> 03:03:01,700
Can you share some of the stats?

2176
03:03:01,920 --> 03:03:03,460
How many people visit the libraries?

2177
03:03:04,360 --> 03:03:09,780
I think some people, if they are not using the libraries, might not comprehend how large

2178
03:03:09,780 --> 03:03:10,860
your impact is.

2179
03:03:11,200 --> 03:03:11,400
Sure.

2180
03:03:11,400 --> 03:03:17,180
I mean, it's close to a million people a year that visit our locations.

2181
03:03:18,320 --> 03:03:22,040
We hit another record for our music emotion program at the Blake Library.

2182
03:03:22,140 --> 03:03:28,560
We had over 200 parents and their kids attend a couple of weeks ago.

2183
03:03:29,060 --> 03:03:35,900
So we are a resource that is used quite a bit and we have a variety of things that a lot

2184
03:03:35,900 --> 03:03:37,040
of people don't know about.

2185
03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:42,620
How many books you're taking now, how much electronic media?

2186
03:03:43,640 --> 03:03:48,340
I'm going to guess to me, it's about 600,000 items that are circulated in our collection,

2187
03:03:48,460 --> 03:03:53,280
and we continue to trend towards the digital collection circulating more than our print

2188
03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:55,580
and technology collection right now.

2189
03:03:57,780 --> 03:04:02,020
And your special presentations that you do pretty much every day,

2190
03:04:02,020 --> 03:04:10,360
more people attend at the Blake Library in Martin County than do in Miami-Dade in

2191
03:04:10,360 --> 03:04:12,220
Broward County combined correct?

2192
03:04:12,680 --> 03:04:18,320
So, yeah, our event attendants per capita is more than St. Lucie, Indian River County,

2193
03:04:18,620 --> 03:04:22,560
and Broward County combined. Yeah. It's crazy.

2194
03:04:23,080 --> 03:04:26,980
And 79% of library funding comes from

2195
03:04:26,980 --> 03:04:28,780
Ed Valorant property taxes.

2196
03:04:29,260 --> 03:04:29,420
All right.

2197
03:04:30,480 --> 03:04:30,960
Yes.

2198
03:04:31,800 --> 03:04:32,360
Mr. Vargas.

2199
03:04:32,480 --> 03:04:34,120
I've been to several of the events of the

2200
03:04:34,120 --> 03:04:37,300
Libraries, not just this Blake Library, but also the

2201
03:04:37,300 --> 03:04:37,960
Palm City.

2202
03:04:38,980 --> 03:04:40,180
And I think they're fantastic.

2203
03:04:40,560 --> 03:04:42,240
I mean, with those children jumping around,

2204
03:04:42,620 --> 03:04:45,100
you want to join them to be a kid.

2205
03:04:45,500 --> 03:04:47,580
But I think you do a wonderful job,

2206
03:04:47,580 --> 03:04:49,760
and your staff is so professional,

2207
03:04:49,980 --> 03:04:52,080
even if you ask them the same question three times.

2208
03:04:53,240 --> 03:04:55,000
So, anyway, I just want to applaud you for that.

2209
03:04:55,180 --> 03:04:55,860
Thank you.

2210
03:04:57,180 --> 03:04:59,980
Motion to accept the library's twos.

2211
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:11,060
227 through 229. And I will second. There's a motion in a second. All those in favour? Aye. Opposed? That motion passes unanimously. Thank you.

2212
03:05:13,020 --> 03:05:19,560
Department for is an updated permitted special event process guide and request form.

2213
03:05:24,190 --> 03:05:33,890
Morning, afternoon, rather. Good afternoon, commissioners. Jessica Balish, Parks and Recreation Deputy Director, and with me is Savannah Richmond, the Parks and Recreation Administrative Manager.

2214
03:05:34,730 --> 03:05:39,270
We have brought this item before you today to formally update a special event application

2215
03:05:39,270 --> 03:05:44,090
process with changes that provide greater transparency to the applicant efficiencies

2216
03:05:44,090 --> 03:05:47,690
for county staff and to further formalize the department review process.

2217
03:05:48,430 --> 03:05:53,190
To provide some history in 2017, the board reviewed and accepted improvements to the

2218
03:05:53,190 --> 03:05:55,710
parks and recreation special event permitting process.

2219
03:05:56,590 --> 03:06:02,430
Since that time, the county has processed approximately 1,000 special event permits under

2220
03:06:02,430 --> 03:06:08,710
framework. It's important to mention that Park's designate one events and volunteer coordinator

2221
03:06:08,710 --> 03:06:14,350
position to service the liaison and coordinator for the application process but is not the sole

2222
03:06:14,350 --> 03:06:20,410
approving authority. The position oversees each permit application from submission through the event

2223
03:06:20,410 --> 03:06:26,370
and into post event follow-up. Depending on the type of event, especially that review may involve

2224
03:06:26,370 --> 03:06:32,050
Parks and Recreation, Risk Management, Legal, Public Works, including Engineering, Services,

2225
03:06:32,050 --> 03:06:38,390
and Traffic, Growth Management, Fire Rescue, the Sheriff's Office, Ocean Rescue, and other

2226
03:06:38,390 --> 03:06:39,670
agencies as needed.

2227
03:06:40,770 --> 03:06:44,630
It should be noted that each authority has reviewed this specialty event guide and provided

2228
03:06:44,630 --> 03:06:47,690
input to establish the updated guide presented here today.

2229
03:06:49,070 --> 03:06:54,850
The updated process will route applications to the county's request for service or the RFS

2230
03:06:54,850 --> 03:07:00,150
system, and the communication workflow provides transparency, aids in supporting county asset

2231
03:07:00,150 --> 03:07:04,250
protection, and helps manage the county's exposure associated with special events.

2232
03:07:05,530 --> 03:07:09,990
Each reviewing authority in the workflow can approve the application and identify requirements

2233
03:07:09,990 --> 03:07:15,210
that must be addressed while the applicant receives updates and follows the application

2234
03:07:15,210 --> 03:07:15,870
progress.

2235
03:07:17,250 --> 03:07:21,570
Staff recommend that the board approve the updated special event guide and request form as

2236
03:07:21,570 --> 03:07:27,630
county's current, formal, especially that application process. And with that, we're happy to answer any questions.

2237
03:07:28,430 --> 03:07:29,910
Questions from Ms. Bellish?

2238
03:07:31,170 --> 03:07:32,370
Please move approval.

2239
03:07:33,530 --> 03:07:36,350
Second, there's a motion in the second dollars in favor.

2240
03:07:37,330 --> 03:07:39,510
I oppose that motion passes unanimously.

2241
03:07:39,830 --> 03:07:40,490
Thank you.

2242
03:07:41,970 --> 03:07:47,070
And last, we will take up Department 5, which is a request for approval of the Environmental

2243
03:07:47,070 --> 03:07:52,310
lands oversight committees list of recommended properties for potential acquisition.

2244
03:07:54,420 --> 03:07:57,280
We see you in a suit so much. It's not even that much of a big deal anymore.

2245
03:07:57,560 --> 03:07:58,820
I know. I had to get a new one.

2246
03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:03,120
We saw your video today very nice.

2247
03:08:03,660 --> 03:08:04,440
Thank you.

2248
03:08:05,720 --> 03:08:06,760
Let's see.

2249
03:08:10,600 --> 03:08:11,320
Yeah, that's not it.

2250
03:08:13,680 --> 03:08:14,200
Thank

2251
03:08:17,280 --> 03:08:17,800
you.

2252
03:08:18,000 --> 03:08:19,760
Good morning, commissioners. I'm Michael Houston.

2253
03:08:19,760 --> 03:08:26,660
Senior Project Manager in the Martin County Environmental Resource Division, and I'm here today to talk to you about our land acquisition programs.

2254
03:08:27,280 --> 03:08:32,120
We have a whole new batch of properties that have come forward for potential acquisitions.

2255
03:08:33,100 --> 03:08:42,020
So in 2024, we had a referendum that authorized a half-cent sales tax for the use of acquiring environmentally sensitive lands.

2256
03:08:42,020 --> 03:08:50,920
And that required the formation of an environmental and oversight committee or Iraq and on June 18th of this year,

2257
03:08:51,260 --> 03:08:55,180
the Iraq met and recommended acquisition of eight properties.

2258
03:08:55,660 --> 03:09:01,780
So staff is here today seeking approval to authorize the use of sales tax funds for these acquisitions.

2259
03:09:03,020 --> 03:09:20,380
So, the purpose of these e-lock ranking meetings is for the board members to review environmental information on nominated parcels, to fill out a project ranking form, and then make recommendations to the board on whether to move forward with acquisitions.

2260
03:09:22,080 --> 03:09:28,360
So, this is just what the scoring matrix looks like, there's a series of 10 different

2261
03:09:28,360 --> 03:09:36,240
criteria that our committee looks at and they score based on these different criteria and

2262
03:09:36,240 --> 03:09:42,880
then the scores are weighted added together and tabulated so that we can come up with a score

2263
03:09:42,880 --> 03:09:49,760
for each property, then we take those properties and come up with a ranked list based on

2264
03:09:49,760 --> 03:09:50,840
weighted scores.

2265
03:09:52,960 --> 03:09:57,200
As I mentioned before, as a part of this nomination cycle, we looked at eight properties

2266
03:09:57,200 --> 03:09:59,960
containing close to 2800 acres of land.

2267
03:10:00,300 --> 03:10:12,720
And these properties were found in all four of our different acquisitions zones, which you might remember are the Indian River Lagoon South, Palmar, Luxellucy, and Blue-AIDS.

2268
03:10:15,780 --> 03:10:28,060
And many of these properties fall within the Florida Wildlife Quarter. This quarter is really important because it's a state-recognized program that prioritizes creating connected habitats and ecosystems.

2269
03:10:28,060 --> 03:10:34,460
So, several of the properties that we looked at, six of them, were located within the

2270
03:10:34,460 --> 03:10:35,480
Florida Wildlife Quarter.

2271
03:10:39,510 --> 03:10:43,650
So first, we'll talk about properties that were in the IRL South Acquisition Zone, and

2272
03:10:43,650 --> 03:10:49,370
we looked at two parcels, solo properties, and then a property adjacent to a hotxamic

2273
03:10:49,370 --> 03:10:51,870
that we're calling the hotxamic addition.

2274
03:10:56,920 --> 03:11:02,120
And these products are important because they are a part of the comprehensive Everglades

2275
03:11:02,120 --> 03:11:06,720
restoration plan or SERP focused on the Indian River Lagoon South.

2276
03:11:07,780 --> 03:11:12,780
These projects capture stormwater runoff that is severely impacting the St. Lucie River

2277
03:11:12,780 --> 03:11:18,400
Estuary and the Indian River Lagoon. And the purpose of these specific acquisitions

2278
03:11:18,400 --> 03:11:26,800
is offset lands impacted by other SERP projects by acquiring these lands. These acquisitions

2279
03:11:26,800 --> 03:11:33,620
were approved as a part of the federal government's 2007 word of bill, and in addition something

2280
03:11:33,620 --> 03:11:39,340
that's unique about this is that the state funds that are generated or funds that we spend

2281
03:11:39,340 --> 03:11:44,160
are matched by the federal government to be used to complete certain projects somewhere within

2282
03:11:44,160 --> 03:11:44,880
the system.

2283
03:11:48,250 --> 03:11:54,070
So first up we have this sole properties parcel. It's a 139 acre parcel. It has

2284
03:11:54,070 --> 03:11:59,090
very good quality, there is a cell tower in the middle of the property, but nothing surrounds

2285
03:11:59,090 --> 03:11:59,930
it.

2286
03:12:00,130 --> 03:12:05,630
And it is within the footprint of ourself, and it's adjacent to Barbie Ranch, which many

2287
03:12:05,630 --> 03:12:12,530
of you are familiar with, we acquired the conservation easements recently on that area.

2288
03:12:12,730 --> 03:12:18,530
So it could be a part of a larger greenway system that would include the C44 project, Alapada,

2289
03:12:19,130 --> 03:12:21,390
and Barbie Ranch, and then this property.

2290
03:12:21,390 --> 03:12:26,790
The second property that we're looking at is Hock's Hammock Edition.

2291
03:12:27,370 --> 03:12:29,190
So we have an existing county preserve.

2292
03:12:29,430 --> 03:12:31,090
It's 432 acres.

2293
03:12:31,530 --> 03:12:35,330
It's one of the bigger parcels that we actually solely manage.

2294
03:12:35,790 --> 03:12:39,130
And this property would be on the east side of Hock's Hammock.

2295
03:12:39,450 --> 03:12:42,810
So it would double the size of the park.

2296
03:12:43,230 --> 03:12:45,850
It has a high probability of development.

2297
03:12:46,350 --> 03:12:49,750
And it would also be a good site because we could expand access

2298
03:12:49,750 --> 03:12:55,210
set is on the adjacent hox hammock preserve to include this parcel as well.

2299
03:12:55,970 --> 03:13:01,750
Hox hammock is heavily used by equestring users, large number out there every day, so

2300
03:13:01,750 --> 03:13:06,330
we think that it would be a natural fit into our system.

2301
03:13:08,410 --> 03:13:12,990
Next up we have the Palmer acquisition zone, and there are two parcels that are up for

2302
03:13:12,990 --> 03:13:13,470
consideration.

2303
03:13:14,530 --> 03:13:20,250
One is Palmer chimney, which you are familiar with Palmer, so this is small lot sizes.

2304
03:13:20,250 --> 03:13:27,590
quarter to a full acre in size and then big cypress ranch, which is right near the county of line.

2305
03:13:29,370 --> 03:13:35,370
Both of these projects could or could be within the Fort of Forever program. Big cypress ranch

2306
03:13:35,370 --> 03:13:40,490
is considered to be an essential acquisition by the Fort of Forever program.

2307
03:13:40,750 --> 03:13:45,210
And Palmar chimney is adjacent to an existing Palmar footprint.

2308
03:13:45,670 --> 03:13:49,170
So we could expand the Fort of Forever project boundary to include this property.

2309
03:13:49,170 --> 03:13:57,620
So taking a little bit closer look at the big cypress ranch, which is the area highlighted in pink.

2310
03:13:58,060 --> 03:14:04,760
It is an 851 cypress and wetland dominant property and it could be a part of the link between

2311
03:14:04,760 --> 03:14:11,220
hunger land to the north east and Corbett wildlife and management area to the southwest.

2312
03:14:12,320 --> 03:14:17,460
We could it could be a potential fee simple acquisition or another conservation easement acquisition.

2313
03:14:18,660 --> 03:14:33,780
And the second is Palmer chimney, it's a 1238 acre property that's similar to Palm Beach Heights with small parcel size, and it could be a larger greenway that connects Hungary and from the south to the C44 project to the north.

2314
03:14:35,160 --> 03:14:38,240
Third up we have the Loxolucy Acquisition Zone.

2315
03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:42,300
Loxolucy is an interesting zone because of its east of

2316
03:14:42,300 --> 03:14:48,220
I-95 in the term Pike and it could provide basically a green

2317
03:14:48,220 --> 03:14:54,820
way system that's very close to where people live so it has value in that way and

2318
03:14:54,820 --> 03:14:57,580
including the Methodist Church Parcel.

2319
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,240
The Dittilio Edition and MTN Ranch.

2320
03:15:05,660 --> 03:15:11,080
This is also a Forta Forever focal area, so it's the Atlantic Ridge Forta Forever footprint.

2321
03:15:11,960 --> 03:15:19,600
And we have a couple of these properties are either within or adjacent to an existing Forta Forever project footprint.

2322
03:15:21,020 --> 03:15:27,740
The first step is the first Methodist Parcel. This is small. It's about 6.1 acres in size.

2323
03:15:27,740 --> 03:15:43,740
But preserving this property, and it's the area highlighted in blue, would protect important scrub habitat and actually, just as significantly, there's a 900 acre parcel, the medalist property that's owned by the water management district.

2324
03:15:44,180 --> 03:15:48,320
But currently, there's not access to it because there's no way to get access for the public.

2325
03:15:48,320 --> 03:15:59,640
So we think that with this and another recent acquisition which is the Rogers Atlantic Ridge parcel that we could potentially create an access point that would open up that 900 acres

2326
03:15:59,640 --> 03:16:04,380
So that the citizens of Martin County would get to explore and enjoy it.

2327
03:16:05,940 --> 03:16:12,200
Then we have the Dittilio Parcel, this is adjacent to our existing kitchen creek preserve.

2328
03:16:13,160 --> 03:16:20,180
It's 12.2 acres and it's heavily impacted, but it's we think that it could be part of a flowway,

2329
03:16:20,340 --> 03:16:24,560
the central flowway project that we've been working on here in the county for a long time,

2330
03:16:24,820 --> 03:16:27,440
and that it could provide a benefit to the Locke's Atchee River.

2331
03:16:27,740 --> 03:16:32,800
We also think that it could provide a trail connection for Atlantic Ridge and Jonathan Dickinson State Park.

2332
03:16:32,800 --> 03:16:36,980
And this one is currently listed on several real-term sites.

2333
03:16:37,300 --> 03:16:41,480
Mr. Houston, is there any portion of detail that's not impacted?

2334
03:16:43,300 --> 03:16:45,320
No, it's pretty much there's a lake.

2335
03:16:46,340 --> 03:16:47,680
It's pretty much all impacted.

2336
03:16:47,920 --> 03:16:54,100
But you might recall that the existing kitchen crew project was also similarly impacted.

2337
03:16:54,500 --> 03:16:56,940
And you see what we've done with that.

2338
03:16:57,180 --> 03:17:02,300
The benefit of this acquisition and this property is that there's not many places to hold water.

2339
03:17:02,300 --> 03:17:10,000
and we could certainly use more water storage in this area to rehydrate and provide the timing

2340
03:17:10,000 --> 03:17:15,820
and quantities of flow that's helpful to the restoration of the Laxatchi River.

2341
03:17:16,620 --> 03:17:21,640
So, it has a, you know, if this wasn't within that flow away and it didn't have potential

2342
03:17:21,640 --> 03:17:27,320
as a part of that flow away, we probably wouldn't have considered it, but we could turn it into a

2343
03:17:27,320 --> 03:17:32,980
a really nice feature that could help us with our larger goals of restoring the Oxatch

2344
03:17:32,980 --> 03:17:33,460
of River.

2345
03:17:34,940 --> 03:17:35,100
Thanks.

2346
03:17:37,540 --> 03:17:39,280
Oh, and then we have MTM Ranch.

2347
03:17:39,680 --> 03:17:44,640
MTM Ranch is on the south side of Bridge Road just west of 138 Street.

2348
03:17:45,120 --> 03:17:51,620
It's actually a 100 acre property, so that's a typo, but it's also within the Kitchen Creek

2349
03:17:51,620 --> 03:17:57,260
Watershed, and it's next to the Leonard parcel, which is up for consideration.

2350
03:17:57,260 --> 03:18:08,820
It's a formerly approved e-lock project that has board approval that we're working with the state on to put a conservation easement, and we think that's gonna happen by early next year.

2351
03:18:09,940 --> 03:18:27,220
So that property is close to 258 years in size, so with MTM Ranch and the Leonard parcel side by side, you could be looking at 358 years of protected habitat on the south side of Bridge Road in the Laxalucy footprint.

2352
03:18:27,260 --> 03:18:33,860
It also has a large cypress slew on the property, and we believe that this one is looking

2353
03:18:33,860 --> 03:18:36,400
more like a acquisition of a conservation easement.

2354
03:18:36,460 --> 03:18:42,080
The property is listed for sale, but I think the owner wants to keep it and continue to

2355
03:18:42,080 --> 03:18:48,040
manage it and protect it as they happen for something like 20 years.

2356
03:18:50,160 --> 03:18:52,400
And finally we have our Blue Ways acquisition zone.

2357
03:18:52,400 --> 03:18:56,400
We have one up for consideration today, the Justin Wilson edition.

2358
03:18:56,680 --> 03:18:59,580
I will mention there's another property on here.

2359
03:18:59,720 --> 03:19:00,900
It's the Avon Lea property.

2360
03:19:01,540 --> 03:19:05,120
That will be going back to the Elock committee

2361
03:19:05,120 --> 03:19:09,980
for their vote at next month on September 17th.

2362
03:19:10,100 --> 03:19:12,020
There is a little disagreement in terms

2363
03:19:12,020 --> 03:19:13,240
of how to handle that property.

2364
03:19:13,860 --> 03:19:15,240
Some of the board members thought that it

2365
03:19:15,240 --> 03:19:17,520
should be an acquisition of just a city of Stuart.

2366
03:19:17,520 --> 03:19:23,020
but that is actually up for you to decide and not that you are.

2367
03:19:25,750 --> 03:19:31,350
So the Justin Wilson edition would slot right in next to the existing Justin Wilson property,

2368
03:19:31,570 --> 03:19:36,190
Lance Corporal Justin Wilson Property, and Palm City, it's a 28-per-parson.

2369
03:19:36,730 --> 03:19:40,050
It's on the south side of the existing preserve and park.

2370
03:19:40,490 --> 03:19:45,370
The drainage for this property feeds into Bessie Creek and the St. Lucie Estuary.

2371
03:19:45,370 --> 03:19:55,750
It doesn't include rare bay calls swamp habitat, and we would like to use it to create a trail system extending from Justin Wilson Park into this and through this parcel.

2372
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:17,100
Over-site committee met, and they ranked several properties, and this is the ranked list, with the highest being Big Cypress Ranch, and Dottillo receiving the lowest ranking. However, the e-lock committee did recommend that we move forward with acquisition on all of these properties.

2373
03:20:19,360 --> 03:20:20,880
And that is the end of my presentation.

2374
03:20:22,840 --> 03:20:23,320
Questions?

2375
03:20:24,240 --> 03:20:28,900
So, how do you proceed with the rankings about pursuing these?

2376
03:20:29,080 --> 03:20:35,200
You start out with the number one, and if you get successfully negotiate a price on that,

2377
03:20:35,540 --> 03:20:40,840
you close on that one, and then go on to number two, or do you simultaneously negotiate?

2378
03:20:41,860 --> 03:20:43,820
We simultaneously negotiate.

2379
03:20:44,460 --> 03:20:50,520
We realize with the first batch of properties, we're lucky if we get half of the ones that

2380
03:20:50,520 --> 03:20:51,300
on this list.

2381
03:20:53,400 --> 03:20:59,980
So, we do try and prioritize the ones that are higher on the list. Last go

2382
03:20:59,980 --> 03:21:04,800
around I think Whitworth was highest on the list and that would certainly be a huge priority

2383
03:21:04,800 --> 03:21:10,000
if we were able to come to a deal on that property. So, we look at all the properties but

2384
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:14,880
certainly the ones higher on the list we try to make sure that we acquire. Is Whitworth still

2385
03:21:14,880 --> 03:21:15,760
in Limbo?

2386
03:21:15,880 --> 03:21:16,820
It's still in Limbo.

2387
03:21:18,340 --> 03:21:18,980
Commissioner Vargas.

2388
03:21:20,080 --> 03:21:21,880
I was looking on page 622.

2389
03:21:22,940 --> 03:21:27,820
I see here that Martin County is collected about 11.2 million, three months state collection

2390
03:21:27,820 --> 03:21:29,800
lag I understand that.

2391
03:21:29,980 --> 03:21:37,740
And that Martin County has spent approximately 21.2 million cumulative between year 25 and 26.

2392
03:21:38,200 --> 03:21:38,740
So far.

2393
03:21:39,120 --> 03:21:41,760
So what is it that you do have now?

2394
03:21:42,540 --> 03:21:47,700
I would need to defer to Stephanie Merley in terms of the exact total, but I believe that

2395
03:21:47,700 --> 03:21:56,040
there's over $10 million that has currently been raised and has not been assigned to a

2396
03:21:56,040 --> 03:21:57,060
project at this point.

2397
03:21:57,380 --> 03:21:57,640
Uh-huh.

2398
03:21:58,100 --> 03:21:58,220
Uh-huh.

2399
03:21:58,500 --> 03:21:58,560
Yeah.

2400
03:21:58,560 --> 03:21:59,760
And I can definitely check with her.

2401
03:22:01,020 --> 03:22:06,660
So with the number of properties that you've made a presentation for, I mean, when you're

2402
03:22:06,660 --> 03:22:11,380
making negotiations, how are you, how firm are you and so far as below a praised

2403
03:22:11,380 --> 03:22:15,300
value to secure these properties for the benefit of Martin County.

2404
03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:19,440
We typically try and stay at about 90% of a praise value.

2405
03:22:19,840 --> 03:22:20,980
We can go down to 75.

2406
03:22:21,400 --> 03:22:27,560
We do. Yeah, and we certainly, you know, will if we believe that we can make a deal.

2407
03:22:28,160 --> 03:22:31,380
So we start low and I'm working our way up.

2408
03:22:34,060 --> 03:22:35,140
We'll do.

2409
03:22:35,140 --> 03:22:42,440
We do, you know, and I will also mention that any deal has to come before the Board for

2410
03:22:42,440 --> 03:22:48,080
final approval, so you will get any say in terms, and you will have all the information

2411
03:22:48,080 --> 03:22:53,600
in terms of what the appraisal value is versus what the asking price of the property is.

2412
03:22:53,600 --> 03:22:55,440
Yeah, until it does come before the Board.

2413
03:22:56,060 --> 03:22:56,200
Okay.

2414
03:22:56,500 --> 03:23:02,820
And we will definitely be talking to you throughout this process and involving you as we negotiate

2415
03:23:02,820 --> 03:23:03,640
with these owners.

2416
03:23:05,240 --> 03:23:06,280
Commissioner Heatherington?

2417
03:23:06,560 --> 03:23:06,660
Yes.

2418
03:23:06,940 --> 03:23:11,500
You, Commissioner Heatherington, heard you asked the question that I had on prioritization

2419
03:23:11,500 --> 03:23:13,320
and do you negotiate simultaneously?

2420
03:23:14,180 --> 03:23:16,720
Because some of those are going to be easier to close than others.

2421
03:23:17,080 --> 03:23:21,600
So you might, it might be three or four priority reading,

2422
03:23:21,860 --> 03:23:23,340
but you might feel the close that one.

2423
03:23:23,500 --> 03:23:23,740
Correct.

2424
03:23:24,080 --> 03:23:30,880
And I would say, you know, because of we limited our acquisitions to the four zones,

2425
03:23:30,880 --> 03:23:34,840
that anything we get is going to be a valuable acquisition.

2426
03:23:35,580 --> 03:23:38,500
So even something that's a little lower on the list,

2427
03:23:38,860 --> 03:23:41,100
still provides value, still provides habitat,

2428
03:23:41,460 --> 03:23:43,440
still is part of wildlife quarters.

2429
03:23:45,340 --> 03:23:49,160
And these are all, you know, they all have values

2430
03:23:49,160 --> 03:23:52,020
for our program, and all make our program better.

2431
03:23:53,620 --> 03:23:57,980
I will gladly make a motion to approve the outline list.

2432
03:24:01,780 --> 03:24:04,980
Thank you very much for a couple of reasons.

2433
03:24:05,820 --> 03:24:10,240
One, I always notice the people that are super passionate about the work they're doing.

2434
03:24:10,700 --> 03:24:14,100
You're presenting a PowerPoint, but you're not reading from notes.

2435
03:24:14,540 --> 03:24:17,460
You know these properties like they were your own.

2436
03:24:17,620 --> 03:24:18,420
You know the process.

2437
03:24:18,520 --> 03:24:23,320
I mean, you're literally the author of the procedures that we're using, or at least one of,

2438
03:24:23,620 --> 03:24:26,240
with your legal counsel over there.

2439
03:24:26,240 --> 03:24:28,440
And others, so I really appreciate that.

2440
03:24:28,580 --> 03:24:30,560
What I really like about this selection,

2441
03:24:30,700 --> 03:24:32,440
and the one that you left on the screen,

2442
03:24:33,400 --> 03:24:38,160
is that when we were originally talking about the referendum,

2443
03:24:38,460 --> 03:24:41,880
I was concerned that when it was just going to be

2444
03:24:41,880 --> 03:24:45,660
Serp or San Luis S. Juari or the Laca Hatchi

2445
03:24:45,660 --> 03:24:49,780
or the Ocean, and I understand why we

2446
03:24:49,780 --> 03:24:51,340
crafted the language the way we did.

2447
03:24:51,860 --> 03:24:55,180
But I was fearful that if we didn't try to buy up

2448
03:24:55,180 --> 03:24:59,960
some of the very few remaining green open spaces special.

2449
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:06,840
Finally untouched within the communities, within the neighborhoods, within the towns, we'd be missing.

2450
03:25:06,900 --> 03:25:12,860
If you're constantly buying all along the southern border of the county or all along western, way out west,

2451
03:25:13,700 --> 03:25:21,080
that the residents that voted for this wouldn't really see the actual impact in their own communities.

2452
03:25:21,880 --> 03:25:28,720
So this is perfect. Now I get that, I looked at the criteria and I get that it's 7 on the list of

2453
03:25:29,600 --> 03:25:35,460
And what both Commissioner heard and Commissioner Heatherington said that the list I know you're ranking them

2454
03:25:35,460 --> 03:25:43,920
But if you're on the list, you're on the list correct and that you'll be working, you know, diligently if if this were to

2455
03:25:45,440 --> 03:25:46,000
become

2456
03:25:46,920 --> 03:25:48,040
in play

2457
03:25:48,960 --> 03:25:52,540
There's nothing you you guys won't be like well, you know, it's it's number seven

2458
03:25:52,540 --> 03:25:58,160
So I guess we're not gonna really chase after it. You're chasing everything on the list correct. That is correct

2459
03:25:58,160 --> 03:26:07,040
I guess maybe for legal or or or Stephanie Merley or Carolyn Timon if I was able to participate

2460
03:26:07,860 --> 03:26:15,300
with district funds to help acquire this property is that a viable option.

2461
03:26:16,400 --> 03:26:18,540
I don't see why I wouldn't be a viable option.

2462
03:26:18,860 --> 03:26:20,460
I can keep that in mind.

2463
03:26:21,160 --> 03:26:27,520
Simply because when you look at the map this is you know along for folks it's obviously

2464
03:26:27,520 --> 03:26:32,420
west of the river, that's the palm city bridge right there along the right.

2465
03:26:33,540 --> 03:26:40,220
If we don't, that's one of the largest pieces that's available in like sort of like DTP downtown

2466
03:26:40,220 --> 03:26:46,720
palm city. If we don't get it, then like if you went back to look at the list, it's said,

2467
03:26:46,720 --> 03:26:54,160
development potential for development, can you go back Miss Gordon or to the to the chart?

2468
03:26:56,260 --> 03:26:57,560
That one is one.

2469
03:26:58,160 --> 03:27:03,180
If you see, we got the highest score on development potential.

2470
03:27:03,900 --> 03:27:04,140
Oh, no.

2471
03:27:04,240 --> 03:27:05,400
Excuse me.

2472
03:27:05,900 --> 03:27:06,000
Yeah.

2473
03:27:06,140 --> 03:27:06,780
No, the highest score.

2474
03:27:07,020 --> 03:27:11,320
63 on that, which is not a great score.

2475
03:27:11,520 --> 03:27:12,920
You don't want to high score on that.

2476
03:27:13,120 --> 03:27:16,420
That means that the potential of it being developed into something else.

2477
03:27:16,420 --> 03:27:20,880
And never being able to be saved is apparent.

2478
03:27:20,880 --> 03:27:24,480
So I'd be interested in this helping to assist,

2479
03:27:26,640 --> 03:27:27,580
to acquire that.

2480
03:27:28,000 --> 03:27:34,340
We appreciate your interest and that's certainly something we keep in mind is that we

2481
03:27:34,340 --> 03:27:41,240
want to where we can and we're limited in terms of the ordinance language and having willing

2482
03:27:41,240 --> 03:27:48,420
sellers but we do when we have an opportunity to buy something in town where people live.

2483
03:27:48,420 --> 03:27:51,820
So we certainly want to see those acquisitions move forward.

2484
03:27:54,040 --> 03:27:54,300
Yeah.

2485
03:27:54,400 --> 03:27:54,920
I appreciate that.

2486
03:27:55,700 --> 03:28:02,660
Now, I think that using the use of this in district funds, the residents of the district

2487
03:28:02,660 --> 03:28:08,200
would say that was a very good use of the funds to protect these final spots in Palm City.

2488
03:28:08,400 --> 03:28:11,700
And it's nice because most of the rest of them, like I said, are elsewhere in the county.

2489
03:28:12,140 --> 03:28:17,480
There's only going to be a few opportunities within this area to do something like that.

2490
03:28:17,480 --> 03:28:19,300
So I appreciate that it's even on the list.

2491
03:28:19,760 --> 03:28:20,780
Thank you.

2492
03:28:20,980 --> 03:28:21,500
Mr. Vargas.

2493
03:28:23,020 --> 03:28:23,940
What about Johnson Beach?

2494
03:28:23,940 --> 03:28:27,580
I just spoken with John Mail about this about looking at a certain parcel.

2495
03:28:28,680 --> 03:28:30,480
Can you give me an update on that?

2496
03:28:31,040 --> 03:28:33,400
Now, right at this moment, maybe we can have a meeting.

2497
03:28:33,540 --> 03:28:35,580
So I can say that's in town.

2498
03:28:35,820 --> 03:28:36,860
That's Johnson Beach.

2499
03:28:37,120 --> 03:28:37,340
Correct.

2500
03:28:37,660 --> 03:28:43,840
And we certainly would, would be interested in properties in Johnson Beach.

2501
03:28:43,860 --> 03:28:46,260
They just have to meet the intent of the ordinance.

2502
03:28:46,260 --> 03:29:06,260
So, in this case, the Justin Wilson property is low enough that if it were developed, it could be, you know, with resilience, like it falls into the blue-way program because it provides resilience, protection, you know, so if it were developed, it could be an issue in terms of flooding coastal flooding.

2503
03:29:06,260 --> 03:29:10,300
So, so that's one of the things that we can look at to include properties.

2504
03:29:10,660 --> 03:29:23,120
So we can take a look at that and see if it's against up against the river or if the area could potential have some coastal flooding issues that could be some criteria that we look at.

2505
03:29:23,260 --> 03:29:25,100
We can also rye out, too.

2506
03:29:25,720 --> 03:29:25,860
Yes.

2507
03:29:25,920 --> 03:29:30,500
Exciting things are happening there, it doesn't mean we can't do this also.

2508
03:29:31,360 --> 03:29:37,720
Absolutely. We will, we will get together with you. We'll set something up on your calendar.

2509
03:29:37,840 --> 03:29:40,540
That would be great. Really appreciate it. Thank you.

2510
03:29:41,260 --> 03:29:41,740
Mr. Fox.

2511
03:29:42,120 --> 03:29:42,720
Thank you, Madam Chair.

2512
03:29:42,840 --> 03:29:43,740
Sebastian Fox.

2513
03:29:43,740 --> 03:29:49,960
Senior Assistant County Attorney Commissioner Campy to your interest in the Justin Wilson property.

2514
03:29:51,460 --> 03:29:59,480
The ordinance that establishes the framework to acquire these properties as staff explained is tied to the appraisal value.

2515
03:29:59,480 --> 03:29:59,920
Bye.

2516
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:13,080
I think what you're offer provides unique opportunity for us is that it may be able to close some of the gap between the appraisal value and the price that the seller is willing to release the property at.

2517
03:30:13,220 --> 03:30:22,340
So I think staff can work with you and we'll work with you if the opportunity presents itself to specifically kind of delineate those funds that could be used in that.

2518
03:30:22,480 --> 03:30:25,280
So I think that's a great opportunity for us to create some flexibility.

2519
03:30:25,780 --> 03:30:31,080
Perfect. Thank you. And if you let me know who the seller is, I'd be somebody I know.

2520
03:30:33,600 --> 03:30:36,020
Any further questions, there's a motion in a zero second?

2521
03:30:36,760 --> 03:30:41,480
Yes, I'll start. I just want to brag on the staff a little bit.

2522
03:30:41,680 --> 03:30:47,240
And I'll make e-lock committee and express once again how much confidence I have.

2523
03:30:47,840 --> 03:30:56,280
And the leadership of this whole effort, things that this just is going really, really well and we appreciate all that your guys do.

2524
03:30:57,970 --> 03:31:04,010
And we also appreciate these willing sellers who are coming forward and they continue to come forward

2525
03:31:04,010 --> 03:31:09,810
two years after the referendum was passed, so it's really encouraging to see the public enthusiasm

2526
03:31:09,810 --> 03:31:13,010
for embracing this half-cent sales tax.

2527
03:31:13,930 --> 03:31:15,330
When's Wiese coming back?

2528
03:31:16,110 --> 03:31:17,570
I think she's run out of money.

2529
03:31:18,070 --> 03:31:19,410
Oh, no such thing.

2530
03:31:19,850 --> 03:31:20,330
They've been easy.

2531
03:31:20,490 --> 03:31:21,130
They've got a lot of money.

2532
03:31:21,250 --> 03:31:21,870
They've got a lot of money.

2533
03:31:21,870 --> 03:31:22,410
They've got a lot of money.

2534
03:31:23,190 --> 03:31:29,250
There's a motion and a second, all those in favor, I opposed that motion passes unanimously.

2535
03:31:29,970 --> 03:31:34,590
We are, at the end of our meeting, would anyone from the public like to address us?

2536
03:31:34,870 --> 03:31:39,850
If so, please fill out a request to speak for him and hand it to the bailiff who will get it to us.

2537
03:31:41,880 --> 03:31:42,540
Mr. Rick Crystal.

2538
03:31:46,280 --> 03:31:47,960
Is he fighting day for this guy?

2539
03:31:50,640 --> 03:31:54,980
I find the data center topic very fascinating.

2540
03:31:55,560 --> 03:31:57,340
I think he was back in February.

2541
03:31:57,980 --> 03:32:01,440
When I was going off, one of my airport tie reads,

2542
03:32:03,600 --> 03:32:07,580
and at the end of it, just half of

2543
03:32:07,580 --> 03:32:15,900
the top of my head, I shouted, I said, and data centers at Indian Town over my dead body.

2544
03:32:16,000 --> 03:32:17,760
And that just came out of nowhere.

2545
03:32:17,960 --> 03:32:18,760
I'm like, what?

2546
03:32:18,860 --> 03:32:20,260
You actually said that.

2547
03:32:20,820 --> 03:32:26,060
But it's a fascinating topic because I remember, in the early, early days, I'm thinking,

2548
03:32:26,060 --> 03:32:36,040
You've got to tread lightly on this one because you will literally have to take a hat and cover it with tin foil to even even go there

2549
03:32:36,040 --> 03:32:39,000
Okay, those are the early days and then

2550
03:32:40,140 --> 03:32:41,340
And then

2551
03:32:43,300 --> 03:32:48,520
wait a minute here the greenies are like wait a minute all this water

2552
03:32:48,520 --> 03:32:57,540
All this pollution I'm thinking hey, this is like this is a gift. I mean I know why I don't want them and it is tin foil

2553
03:32:57,560 --> 03:33:05,080
Okay? I don't want, this is happening, okay? And then come the greenies, right?

2554
03:33:05,100 --> 03:33:09,580
I'm thinking, wow! This will work, this will work pretty good.

2555
03:33:10,020 --> 03:33:13,740
At least by some time, and maybe you have everyone discuss some things.

2556
03:33:15,460 --> 03:33:24,860
But the bigger topic of populism. I think history will show that the populist movement started

2557
03:33:24,860 --> 03:33:37,170
with COVID and the loss of public trust of every public official from the top all the way

2558
03:33:37,170 --> 03:33:45,970
down to local officials, officials, as a handled COVID and specifically the COVID vaccine.

2559
03:33:47,970 --> 03:33:58,290
And it was a mysterious time to me when 70% of the population took the jab, 30% did not.

2560
03:34:00,470 --> 03:34:03,830
And public officials were actually promoting it.

2561
03:34:06,700 --> 03:34:13,800
And as I was talking about earlier, the truth, it's like, I love Elvis's philosophy and

2562
03:34:13,800 --> 03:34:14,080
the truth.

2563
03:34:14,120 --> 03:34:15,760
Something about it.

2564
03:34:15,760 --> 03:34:18,000
This never goes away, that type of thing.

2565
03:34:22,640 --> 03:34:23,380
I remember thinking,

2566
03:34:25,880 --> 03:34:31,560
it's on, this is the start of something here, because you can't put

2567
03:34:31,560 --> 03:34:35,820
this genie back in the bottle of, we can't trust you anymore, okay?

2568
03:34:36,300 --> 03:34:44,480
And then the advent of social media, which is such a weapon, so to speak, for the resistance.

2569
03:34:46,740 --> 03:34:54,040
So it's a fascinating time, and we'll see this goes, full disclosure, I've never been

2570
03:34:54,040 --> 03:34:59,960
in prison, but it might be my bucket list, and I will tell you this when I'm going to

2571
03:35:07,580 --> 03:35:15,970
Thank you. Anyone else? More like open mic than public comment.

2572
03:35:15,970 --> 03:35:22,850
I see one of those commissioner artists in here, last corner food comments.

2573
03:35:22,890 --> 03:35:24,930
Oh, I think I'm fine today.

2574
03:35:25,350 --> 03:35:25,670
How about you?

2575
03:35:26,050 --> 03:35:26,530
Commissioner Caps.

2576
03:35:26,770 --> 03:35:27,630
I'm good.

2577
03:35:28,150 --> 03:35:29,250
Commissioner Campy.

2578
03:35:30,050 --> 03:35:32,330
Mr. Dawlson also thank you.

2579
03:35:32,630 --> 03:35:43,110
Yes, I just want to remind the board that since there's nobody running against Mr. Collins in November that he is a commissioner elect and sunshine laws fully apply to Mr. Collins.

2580
03:35:43,110 --> 03:35:48,650
So board members under Sunshine are not allowed to talk to Commissioner or let

2581
03:35:48,650 --> 03:35:52,210
Conblings about anything that could foreseeably come before the board.

2582
03:35:52,550 --> 03:35:56,290
So I just want to remind everybody that it's a unique area of the law, but

2583
03:35:56,290 --> 03:36:00,670
Sunshine applies to Commissioner Let Collins as well as all of you.

2584
03:36:00,870 --> 03:36:01,210
Good to know.

2585
03:36:01,290 --> 03:36:02,410
Thank you.

2586
03:36:02,550 --> 03:36:03,210
We are adjourned.