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I've heard things I don't know

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I don't know what's happening

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happens to that

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on water and sewer

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thank you

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you guys paid cash for this

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supposed to

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create subject

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okay

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how long will this take

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good morning chaplain can you hear us

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cool

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where's your suit and tie Chaplin

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that's only for live meetings

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well today is technically your Friday so

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yeah it is

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I'm even going to try to get out of town

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a little early but we shall see

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thank you

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this

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is

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good morning I'd like to call the uh

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Village Council work session meeting

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August 31st 2023 to order I show the

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time at 907 I also show we have a quorum

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uh the only one we're missing is Wayne

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at this time and is he planning to come

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to we know or is he going to participate

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remotely

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Christina or Austin did he say

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all right well we'll just see if he

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joins us

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um next up uh

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who if he does join us I need a motion

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to consider allowing Council to

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okay

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sounds good

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um

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next up we have adoption of the agenda

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do we have any changes or omissions or

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yes we need to add under items of

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discussion number 13.

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discussion of Geo Bond public education

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project scheduled

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and

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microphone

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and number 14 consider approval of

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change order from first try on for

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geobond advertisement at NOCO at a cost

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not to exceed thirteen thousand dollars

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and direct staff to prepare the budget

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amendment

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and that is all I have Mr Mayor all

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right anyone else from Council

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that or

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all right I'll need a motion to approve

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the agenda as amended so moved all's in

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favor

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aye

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first up on presentations we do not have

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any I assume is that correct Christina

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and that it was a discussion okay first

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up under items of discussion we had

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discussion consideration of a private

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road acceptance plan traffic mitigation

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fund non-marvin Road

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allocation plan in conjunction with

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General obligation fund issues issuance

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pending March 2024 election results

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is that you Christina

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Jamie your trunks open

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your trunk

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steal something

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good morning mayor and cancel

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um the last time we were here I think

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jazza was here and we discussed the

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total number for the

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General obligation bond for roads the

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total tax number which we had kind of

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landed on a 4.5

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Cent increase in year 26 and then an

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additional three cent in 2029 he can

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correct me if I'm wrong

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since then there's been a couple of

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things that we've thought of that you

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might want to consider adding in but

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there's one particular thing that I want

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to make sure we discuss

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and just to note that any additional

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roads that we're going to discuss today

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or any additional deletions would have

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would have an impact on that model so

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those numbers that I previously

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mentioned will be impacted if we change

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anything at this point

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the biggest piece as you as you all know

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we've been working with DOT to get the

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roads

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um intended to be released if the Geo

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Bond passes it's definitely something we

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want to have in our back pocket to make

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sure that they're willing and able to do

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what we want and that we're educating

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the citizens to um

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to that degree and so we've had a couple

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meetings with DOT

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we are for the most part

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they're in line with what we're trying

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to do there's a couple of hiccups on

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Marvin School Road Waxhaw Marvin

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and then Newtown Road which I didn't

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specify in this memo but Newtown Road is

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one of them

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basically they want to maintain control

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of the roundabouts unless they have

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unless we own 100 of the functionality

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of the roundabout so what that would

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mean is you'd have to back up from any

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given roundabout approximately 1500

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linear feet they want to be able to

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control the kind of stat that flows into

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the functionality of those roundabouts

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so the last time we had met for the most

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part all of the roads in Marvin they

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were okay with us taking over

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with the exception of this roundabout

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here they want us to go back all the way

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to the Ladera Providence down south

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entrance

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chaplain's still researching to make

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sure that we're able to do that I let

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him speak on that in just a second hold

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on Christina is it the PDS or is it

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Ladera because CDs is way before it's

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the it's the Ladera and it's the Ladera

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um hang on I can tell you the exact

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because PBS and were there are not like

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pds's first then Ladera but Ladera and

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the gates

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are across from each other thank you let

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me I'll look at that I'll look at that

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real quick but it is Ladera I can't it's

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a weird it's a weird Road name okay

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chaplain do you have that road name

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pulled up by chance

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lucky I do I do not lucky something yeah

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that's the intersection

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is that PDS no no okay

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yeah because it's all horse names lucky

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Debonair is PDS so so it's that yeah

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it's that intersection so it doesn't go

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all the way down to Ladera then right

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well this says Ladera Drive

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well you've got Ladera slash lucky

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Debonair way yeah lucky debonaira and

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then Ladera Drive is across the street

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lucky Dev

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hang on let me pass this down I'll show

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you I'm looking

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no lucky Debonair goes into

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you know

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nope you're right it does it goes into

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Gates okay okay that's fine

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just just double checking

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you good okay

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so basically that's where they would

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want us to go down

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they're willing right now to give us the

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uh they're willing to stop at Rising

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and then we would have to figure out

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basically from rising road all the way

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down to that intersection that I just

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mentioned in order to get

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between here

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and that would include the Marvin School

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going back 1500 feet if they don't

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so they won't do the wax on Marvin

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roundabout they want to do both of these

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together

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so so any and ever any of in all

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roundabouts they would want us to have a

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hundred percent basically back 1500 feet

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so we wax on Marvin would be included

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yes we would that that section's fine

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just getting

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all the way down to that intersection

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that I mentioned the lucky debonaira

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in order to get that that roundabout if

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we don't have that

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intersection down there they're not

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willing to give us any of this stretch

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because they want to control that

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functionality

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um that being said we can either exclude

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this this portion and go to Rising Road

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and still have ownership and control

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over there same thing with here we'd

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probably have to go back to the first

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intersection which I think is flowering

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and then have control all the way down

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and then we'd have to figure that out

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what that area would be on the wax on

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Marvin so my question to you all if if

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we're still researching this if we are

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willing and able to

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find a solution to have ownership and

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control over this section from Village

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Hall to the lucky debonaira is canceled

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willing to do that

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we and just so you all know I have I

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have reached out to the gates of Ainsley

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Ladera and PDS about potentially

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annexing their common area

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which would basically mean just that

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road Frontage so that we can

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have an easier process for ownership and

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control if if they are open to that idea

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they're discussing it with their

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respective HOA boards

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I gave them a deadline of October 1st I

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believe

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so we should have an answer back from

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them shortly

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well if we can get the uh the right of

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ways then there's no issue right if we

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can what if we get the right of ways and

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there's no issue we can chaplain's still

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researching that because it's called a

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half Road and there may be some

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workarounds so we're still looking into

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that but the more conventional and

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easier way

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is to have parties on both sides that's

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what I'm saying so if we get the right

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of ways then we are

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yeah the common areas I should say then

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we on both sides of the road

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then what then we're on both sides of

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the road yes then it's not an issue at

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all yes okay

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they would go

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approximately 10 years before they

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failed

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started failing having backups on the

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roundabouts which would require a second

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Lane right in each thing so think about

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that when we are deciding if we're going

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to take that over that's going to no

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longer be on the D.O.T or the state

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that's going to be on us

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The Village I don't even know what that

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well but then the one thing to consider

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Joe is the traffic impact of our

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heritage District where it's going to be

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restrictive and we probably don't want

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to add those two lanes so dot was

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planning

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um through traffic with no restrictions

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okay so probably four lane

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South Carolina to Providence possibly

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but they I mean I was

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and at those meetings and all that and

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heard all that stuff too at the time and

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and that was their plan is that they had

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projected a two percent growth per year

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in traffic volume and that was why they

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did that and acquired the extra right of

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way to expand those so that and

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concern

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Mr Mayor of us that us being on the hook

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for that it's going to come down to the

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same thing if we build a roundabout at

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Marvin and Joe Carr if we build a

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roundabout at Joe Carr and Marvin School

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Road like those will then be our roads

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but we will do exactly what

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dot does and we'll go out and get

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funding federal state even though there

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are roads like we would do the same

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thing that the state does because I've

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had that conversation with Hunter

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because I was like oh time out like I

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don't want all this stuff if we have to

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then

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100 on the hook for it right and he's

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like no we we would go out for funding

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and things like that for it yeah there's

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federal DOT grants and funding for with

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road construction

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how are you we'll be reaching out to

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everyone here yeah absolutely will you

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hit the button on the microphone

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so we've invited Bjorn from the county

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because he just happened to be in the

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audience good morning Bjorn Hanson with

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Union County planning so if I understand

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the discussion the village is looking at

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taking ownership and responsibility of

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some sections of

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Newtown and some roads intersecting with

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Newtown pretty much in the area where

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we're sitting right now

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okay the thing I would note

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is that if the municipal municipality

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owns them the dot doesn't own it it may

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lose its federal aid designation

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meaning that you couldn't apply for

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carpo funds in the future you would lose

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that eligibility

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I'm not saying that's a hundred percent

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but that's definitely something you're

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gonna have to look into because if

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you're operating the road in a different

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way if you look at the map

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uh which we were successfully between

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the county the tap the village and the

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City of Charlotte

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three years ago with Marvin Roe which is

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why we're actually talking about

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potentially doing a design at Joe car

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and Marvin we were ineligible to do so

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in the past because we couldn't use

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carpo money on that section of road now

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we can

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you're going to want to make sure that

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any of your actions are not going to

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result in those sections of roads being

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taken off of the Federal Aid System

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unless you're willing to pay for all the

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cost of those improvements okay well

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yeah because I had talked to because

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that was a concern of mine because I was

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like I don't want to be on the hook for

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all of that if it's you know now our

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Reds and Hunter seem to think that we

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would be okay but we'll double check on

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that so sure yeah Okay cool so one of

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the things I'll mention to you all is

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there's a couple different issues with

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this is number one if we are owning

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roads that are not within our

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jurisdiction we're still researching but

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we think that we cannot use Powell Bill

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funds to pay for those roads to be

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maintained so if we decide to do this

360
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section here let's just say it's 1500

361
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linear feed I'm not really sure exactly

362
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how much it is but let's just say that

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then we would have to come up with some

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type of payment allocation where we

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would spend general fund dollars on

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whatever cost of that fifteen hundred

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dollars would be that's not in the

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jurisdiction chaplain and I are still

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researching that

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um to tell you 100 for sure

371
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we can have that answer and we can also

372
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look to see if we would lose the federal

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funding what we can do

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um with this specific section if if

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y'all are leaning if y'all are leaning

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towards you don't really know where to

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go on

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keeping this in or taking it out I would

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suggest you probably keep it in for now

380
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and we can always take it out later

381
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might as well tell citizens the worst

382
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case scenario we can always take it out

383
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if we don't if we find that we can't do

384
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it and then we'll just borrow less which

385
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will be less of an impact to them so

386
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[Music]

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costs that we're taking over the roads

388
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part of the cost is we're going to be re

389
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we're going to be getting all of our

390
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roads up to what Marvin standards are

391
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yes so at that point we will take that

392
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out to the entrance of Ladera with the

393
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Geo Bond money so how long is that road

394
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going to last 15 years

395
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um we did not do an assessment on that

396
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road because it's not in our

397
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jurisdiction currently I can tell you

398
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what Jill do you happen to have that PCS

399
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pulled up for Newtown but my I think

400
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it's a 44. we're going to have it read

401
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we're going to have it brought up to

402
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Marvin standards if that's what we have

403
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to take then we're going to have it

404
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brought up to Marvin standard yes so

405
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then we will have a

406
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life expectancy of however much it is 12

407
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years 15 years whatever it may be and

408
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then so during that time because we

409
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can't use Powell Bill funds unless we

410
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get

411
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common space on each side that would

412
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then bring it into Marvin we could then

413
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have it in Marvin

414
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um we can be putting money away for that

415
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1500

416
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linear feet correct okay so we would

417
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have some time to then put it away if we

418
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couldn't specifically just use Powerball

419
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funds on it yes initially and and

420
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chaplain will have to continue to

421
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research this on his end I don't know if

422
00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:40,440
we can use the general fund dollars I'm

423
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sorry the general obligation dollars

424
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that we obtained from the Geo bond for

425
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that section that's a question that we'd

426
00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:49,080
still have to research let me I'll write

427
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that down yeah and the Powell bill is

428
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expressed us under GS

429
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136413 the power bill funds can only be

430
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used

431
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for the transportation improvements

432
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within the municipal limits so that one

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is Express we know Powell bill is out

434
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,720
all right well okay that's fine I I had

435
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,179
asked you to estimate the cost you know

436
00:23:12,179 --> 00:23:14,520
roughly what that was

437
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so that's the 0.125

438
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:20,400
it would 37 000 roughly okay and this is

439
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just a a general gas what we did was was

440
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it a 44 rating

441
00:23:27,299 --> 00:23:31,380
it has a 69.3 PCS score okay so what I

442
00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:33,840
did was from some from the village

443
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,220
limits

444
00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:37,200
down by South Carolina

445
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,320
all the way up to Rising Road we have a

446
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,659
PCS score of 69 so I can only assume

447
00:23:42,659 --> 00:23:45,240
that's what the PCS score is from there

448
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,059
to there that being said that's one of

449
00:23:48,059 --> 00:23:50,220
the areas where we would likely probably

450
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:52,799
not repave that one in the next couple

451
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,440
of years unless you guys wanted to would

452
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,020
probably hit the worst first the 40s and

453
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the 50s then come to this road within

454
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,580
the next probably two to three years

455
00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:04,559
once it passes that's fine but we would

456
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,240
still have the money from the Geo bond

457
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,220
for it according to chaplain you have to

458
00:24:08,220 --> 00:24:10,140
spend it within the jurisdiction the

459
00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:12,240
corporate limits so assuming that we got

460
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,780
PDS Ladera and the gates to Annex those

461
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:18,780
common spaces yes if not we could work

462
00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:21,240
on that over the next couple of years to

463
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,280
obtain that then how are we going to

464
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,919
Marvin Waxhaw Road that's I'm going to

465
00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:27,179
get to that one in just a second I'm

466
00:24:27,179 --> 00:24:29,460
okay well that one's not enough

467
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:32,280
bad State except for way up on the other

468
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,659
end which is not in our jurisdiction

469
00:24:33,659 --> 00:24:35,220
right

470
00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:38,100
was really bad it's not in Marvin on Wax

471
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,320
On Marvin Road it was repaved five years

472
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,820
ago

473
00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:43,799
I don't know when it was repaid last I

474
00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:45,900
believe it was five years ago because

475
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,280
um it hasn't been all that long that

476
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,039
it's been repaved and then but the the

477
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:51,900
bad parts are up past the high school

478
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,520
where it's really falling apart and

479
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,460
that's not okay so chaplain I've got a

480
00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:58,440
question for you

481
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,240
if

482
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,480
dot says okay Marvin here's the road

483
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,580
okay

484
00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:07,799
and we say that we want to go through

485
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:12,000
the roundabouts up to ladero so dot has

486
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,039
now said okay Marvin these are your

487
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:15,240
roads now

488
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,500
you own them they are now in Marvin

489
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:21,360
so then how in the world are they not in

490
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,740
Marvin

491
00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:25,740
because they're not adjacent on either

492
00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:30,850
side to Marvin

493
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:35,820
not DOT has an easement or a dedication

494
00:25:35,820 --> 00:25:38,460
for the road but they don't own in fee

495
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:39,179
simple

496
00:25:39,179 --> 00:25:41,400
underneath the road

497
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,620
they have a right-of-way across for the

498
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:47,100
road okay but if I back up okay because

499
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,500
we all say we always say that stuff has

500
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,980
to be Marvin adjacent right in order to

501
00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:54,120
be

502
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,799
in Marvin you've got to be Marvin

503
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,720
adjacent in order to get into Marvin so

504
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,539
if I back up down the road I'm

505
00:26:00,539 --> 00:26:02,279
eventually going to be Marvin adjacent

506
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,380
at some point so how is the road not in

507
00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:05,880
Marvin

508
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,400
you have a half Road

509
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,279
it's only you're only contiguous on one

510
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:12,480
side

511
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,820
so if you're in the office but at some

512
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:16,500
point I'm not at some point I'm

513
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,299
contiguous on both sides so how is it

514
00:26:18,299 --> 00:26:20,340
not in Marvin if it's Marvin adjacent at

515
00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:22,080
some point on both sides and it's got to

516
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,600
be more of an adjacent period

517
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,179
what areas can go inside and outside the

518
00:26:27,179 --> 00:26:30,230
municipal limits

519
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,340
and I think that's what it would be just

520
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,320
like the neighborhoods are outside on

521
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,360
the other side of the the road right of

522
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,679
way they're outside of the municipal

523
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:39,120
limits but on the other side of the

524
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,700
street is within the municipal limits up

525
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:45,769
to the center line of the street

526
00:26:45,779 --> 00:26:48,480
okay I don't like that answer

527
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,100
I'm going to work on another one okay

528
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:51,190
good thanks

529
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:53,120
[Laughter]

530
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,620
appreciate that so for now do you guys

531
00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:57,600
want to keep that section in and then

532
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,320
also add the 0.25 that we estimated

533
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,880
again this is just a very high level

534
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,260
estimate but we want to plug something

535
00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:06,299
in for what we think is going to call be

536
00:27:06,299 --> 00:27:08,340
the cost of this if we can't if we can't

537
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,860
get all of the Heritage District

538
00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:12,900
regulated by having Newtown Road and

539
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:14,580
that means it'll stop at Rising Road

540
00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:16,620
then we won't have all of it then it

541
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:20,460
doesn't make sense to me so my yes I

542
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:22,380
will I want it in there and I have I

543
00:27:22,380 --> 00:27:24,480
have all faith in chaplain and us that

544
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520
we will figure out how to get common

545
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,860
spaces into Marvin or chaplain's going

546
00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:30,179
to come up with a better answer that I

547
00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,520
like better

548
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,799
such as right now is adding our estimate

549
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:39,779
of 0.125 cost of the total cost of new

550
00:27:39,779 --> 00:27:43,080
um Marvin limits to Rising Road

551
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,539
to include you can just call it

552
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:46,980
oh you got it right new town to

553
00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,260
Providence Downs

554
00:27:49,260 --> 00:27:51,360
um

555
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,000
and that was 36 000 and we'll come back

556
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,500
to the tax model in just a second to

557
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:56,880
show you how that how much that impacted

558
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,730
it what year is that being plugged in

559
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:04,789
okay

560
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,779
um so just keep in mind if we can't find

561
00:28:06,779 --> 00:28:08,520
a solution we would have to work over

562
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,020
the next several years to come up with

563
00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:12,240
some type of funding allocation for

564
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,640
general fund versus Powell Bill if we

565
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,100
don't have the common space opened up or

566
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,659
finding a solution to the power bill and

567
00:28:18,659 --> 00:28:19,380
when you

568
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:22,260
use 37 000 is that from the roundabout

569
00:28:22,260 --> 00:28:24,559
over or is that from rising Road over

570
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,880
and this is not an engineer drawn

571
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,320
estimate this is literally us just

572
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,299
taking a number what is it Rising Road

573
00:28:30,299 --> 00:28:32,159
over or the end of the roundabout over

574
00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:34,679
Jill on the

575
00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:37,320
cost allocation for that Newtown Road

576
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,700
what is the beginning and ending

577
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:40,260
description

578
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,320
Marvin limits to

579
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,480
it says Marmon School Road to the South

580
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:53,570
Carolina state line so it's

581
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:55,200
not there it could be a little I got it

582
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,400
or it could be a little less I got it

583
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:05,090
okay so the next one is

584
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:10,610
the next one's wax on Marvin

585
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:14,050
Blackstone Marvin is very weird

586
00:29:14,050 --> 00:29:14,700
[Music]

587
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:15,900
um

588
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:17,760
there's several sections of wax on

589
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,159
Marvin that are in out in out and out

590
00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:22,260
that's a problem in and of itself we've

591
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,140
got to find a solution for getting those

592
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:27,179
Parcels in that are in and out the the

593
00:29:27,179 --> 00:29:29,039
only suggestion that I can recommend at

594
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,320
this point in time is to go to the very

595
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,179
first

596
00:29:33,179 --> 00:29:37,140
area where we have no contiguous Parcels

597
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,559
in and that's

598
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,299
that's I don't know if we've got that

599
00:29:42,299 --> 00:29:43,620
reflective in the model that's something

600
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:45,600
that chapel and I have been working on

601
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,039
over the last couple of months and

602
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,179
trying to figure out how we can our

603
00:29:48,179 --> 00:29:50,580
weeks I should say how where's our

604
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,200
starting and stopping point for wax on

605
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,279
Marvin

606
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:55,679
we've we feel very confident that unless

607
00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,840
we can get those part the parcels

608
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,440
annexed in that that are

609
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,539
let me see if I can pull up a map

610
00:30:03,539 --> 00:30:05,279
um

611
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,380
unless we can get those Parcels annexed

612
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:09,480
in that have no continuity whatsoever

613
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,980
we're going to recommend to go to that

614
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:13,200
first starting and stopping point

615
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,000
and we definitely don't have that

616
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,799
plugged into the model I don't know if

617
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,960
we have any of the bonds Grove in there

618
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:26,389
you know if we do

619
00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:34,490
okay

620
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,840
we can work on those numbers that that's

621
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,640
not really a huge deal because we can

622
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,380
again we can keep those numbers in we

623
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:41,820
can take them out as we're working on

624
00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:43,860
that if we see that it's not going to

625
00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:46,250
work out

626
00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:47,880
But to answer your question about where

627
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,100
to pave and where to start and stop it's

628
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,480
it if

629
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,640
we had to say if we had to give an

630
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,020
answer today it would be to that first

631
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,659
point of where we have nothing in Marvin

632
00:30:57,659 --> 00:31:00,769
at all

633
00:31:00,779 --> 00:31:07,610
it is

634
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:11,399
Nesbit right I think it's

635
00:31:11,399 --> 00:31:14,100
yeah it's it's uh chaplain if you

636
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,320
remember it was parcel 2207

637
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,460
I don't know if you remember that one

638
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:18,539
that's where we said it was the first

639
00:31:18,539 --> 00:31:19,919
one it's basically right at the

640
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,080
intersection of Henry Nesbitt

641
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,789
road

642
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,899
if you want to pass that down sorry

643
00:31:30,899 --> 00:31:32,279
Christina you were talking and other

644
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,630
people were talking what'd you say

645
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,260
I'm gonna pass around the map this is

646
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,539
where we had noticed the first

647
00:31:39,539 --> 00:31:41,100
you see where that intersection is you

648
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,760
see where the the white box is that's

649
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,590
where the first area of

650
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000
not having ownership on either side so

651
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,230
okay so with the chimneys

652
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,000
so if we can get the chimneys to Annex

653
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,980
in their common area

654
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:01,260
which won't cost them a thing

655
00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:03,659
then we could which would be very

656
00:32:03,659 --> 00:32:05,220
beneficial for them if they could get

657
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,179
the rope repaved in front of their place

658
00:32:08,179 --> 00:32:10,740
along with a sidewalk that would be

659
00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:12,720
going down in front of their

660
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,000
neighborhood that would make a lot of

661
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,940
sense for them to Annex in in order to

662
00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:19,620
get that that we could fix the drainage

663
00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:22,200
issue fix the drainage issue for them if

664
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,730
they can Annex in

665
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:27,539
you see that parcel identified as two

666
00:32:27,539 --> 00:32:30,120
two zero seven

667
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,970
that's the one that's not in Marvin

668
00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:37,620
or or if we could get that partial up

669
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,840
approved I'm not really sure chapel and

670
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,980
I are still working on that like I said

671
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:43,260
so we can keep the numbers in for now

672
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:44,940
worst case scenario we keep the numbers

673
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:55,970
in we can always take it out later

674
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:58,080
okay so Marvin School Newtown that

675
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,220
covers all of that and then Marvin

676
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:00,840
school there's really no issues other

677
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,640
than right here beside us which

678
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,100
hopefully will get addressed with the

679
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,140
gates of Ansley

680
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:09,059
in their common space aside from that

681
00:33:09,059 --> 00:33:11,220
there's pretty there's pretty much no

682
00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:14,279
gaps in Marvin School Road

683
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,380
okay and again Christina I'm just want

684
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:18,059
to reiterate that if any of these

685
00:33:18,059 --> 00:33:20,399
neighborhoods Annex in their common

686
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,740
space that does not mean that they're

687
00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:25,080
paying an additional tax on that land

688
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,659
correct I would encourage them to talk

689
00:33:27,659 --> 00:33:30,059
to their attorney but there are statutes

690
00:33:30,059 --> 00:33:33,779
that exempt HOA common space to not have

691
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,460
to pay taxes now it's all how they're

692
00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:37,860
individually set up but generically I

693
00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:48,049
would say the answer is yes okay

694
00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:50,760
the time if they're adjacent okay cool

695
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,279
thank you and then that also includes

696
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,500
demons grow obviously bonds Grove

697
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,360
wouldn't be touched at all

698
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640
well I guess it could be

699
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,860
but if we're going to stop on Wax On

700
00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:04,919
Marvin at the first non-marvin area

701
00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:06,179
we would have to figure out where to

702
00:34:06,179 --> 00:34:07,679
pick back up on bonds Grove so I haven't

703
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,780
even looked at that road to figure out

704
00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:12,179
where we would start back up on Wax On

705
00:34:12,179 --> 00:34:14,040
Marvin so I'm just throwing that out

706
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,179
there we'll have to talk about that one

707
00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:17,460
later but as of now that could be a

708
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,440
problematic issue if we don't get some

709
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,139
of the gaps closed and wax on Marvin

710
00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:23,879
again we'll leave the numbers in for now

711
00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:26,159
we can always take them out but aside

712
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,500
from that dot was good with pretty much

713
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:29,760
everything else

714
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,099
so they're working on what I've dubbed

715
00:34:32,099 --> 00:34:34,139
as a phase one letter which is including

716
00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:37,560
all the internal roads within Marvin

717
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,179
um they're working on that letter to

718
00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:41,220
with an intent to relinquish and then as

719
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:43,440
we clean up some of these issues

720
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,599
we're going to work on a phase two of

721
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,639
all the other common areas that we're

722
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,379
discussing now

723
00:34:49,379 --> 00:34:51,720
do you have any questions on any of that

724
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:54,839
okay I just wanted to reiterate that if

725
00:34:54,839 --> 00:34:56,520
we can't find a solution to the Powell

726
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,080
bill

727
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,640
using the Powell Bill dollars for these

728
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,740
roads that are not Marvin we will have

729
00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:03,420
to find some type of funding allocation

730
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,240
which we can work on

731
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,990
any questions

732
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,920
okay the next

733
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,380
topic I want to go on is private roads

734
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:15,780
we initially did not plan for any

735
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,000
private roads to be

736
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640
paved or resurfaced or anything in the

737
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Geo Bond but I know as we start the

738
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,599
publication education efforts we're

739
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:26,520
going to have a lot of questions on what

740
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,619
about me if I'm a private road owner are

741
00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:30,960
you going to pave my road the roads

742
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,700
estimated for private roads were about

743
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:34,619
eight or nine hundred thousand dollars

744
00:35:34,619 --> 00:35:37,500
in the past we've had I know at least

745
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,920
one subdivision possibly to come to us

746
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,079
and ask for an assessment which

747
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,020
basically allows for us to pave those

748
00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:47,760
roads and do tax assessments on their

749
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,680
property over a course of however many

750
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,020
years we decide to do it

751
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:53,640
um essentially it's us running the money

752
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,960
and then charging back the property

753
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,480
owners in their tax bill we would still

754
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880
have the same authority to foreclose on

755
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,619
property if that wasn't paid so the

756
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,540
recouping of the money is still very

757
00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:07,200
high and it goes with the land so if

758
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,460
someone

759
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,520
is on a road today that's private and

760
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,599
they're planning on selling their house

761
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:14,099
in a couple of years they can still have

762
00:36:14,099 --> 00:36:15,900
that road resurfaced and have the

763
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:17,880
subsequent homeowners pay for it if they

764
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,339
do the assessment it's a legal process

765
00:36:20,339 --> 00:36:21,839
in the state of North Carolina I think

766
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:24,420
it goes up to eight to ten years so we

767
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:26,820
could essentially project out that cost

768
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:28,320
from eight to ten years and it's all

769
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,060
based on linear footage linear Road

770
00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:31,400
footage footage

771
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440
and 50 percent of those homeowners are

772
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,660
50 of the linear footage owners would

773
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,400
have to agree

774
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,140
to that assessment

775
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:43,200
so Robinwood for example if they wanted

776
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,480
to come in and get their roads paved

777
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,099
they would have to Rally amongst their

778
00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:50,220
neighborhood to get over 50 percent of

779
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:52,680
linear footage owners to say yes they

780
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,140
provide that petition to us we go out

781
00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:57,000
and have an engineered study drawn of

782
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,260
how much it's going to cost then we

783
00:36:58,260 --> 00:37:00,780
charge that back to them they they will

784
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:02,040
have to sign more additional paperwork

785
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,720
but we would charge that

786
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,339
assessment back to them and their tax

787
00:37:05,339 --> 00:37:06,900
bill over the course of however long

788
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:12,710
y'all decided to do it

789
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,599
yes yeah yeah it would be an individual

790
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:16,980
assessment

791
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:19,020
so at Firethorne let's say your roads

792
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:20,760
were bad and and we didn't own them

793
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,440
y'all owned them you could come to us

794
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,839
and say hey can you make this happen we

795
00:37:24,839 --> 00:37:27,900
would go out and measure Joe owns

796
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,440
500 linear footage Jamie owns 800 so

797
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,579
Jamie's going to be a little bit more

798
00:37:32,579 --> 00:37:35,099
Joe's going to be a little bit less and

799
00:37:35,099 --> 00:37:36,240
then you would pay that over the course

800
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:42,710
of five ten years

801
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,760
something that would

802
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:54,170
sensory bio foreign

803
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:56,880
that's right

804
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,880
the same we would okay but we would we

805
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,619
would just help them because we would

806
00:38:01,619 --> 00:38:02,760
front the money they don't have enough

807
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,800
money to do it themselves

808
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,859
so we would float them alone and they

809
00:38:07,859 --> 00:38:10,440
could pay us back over time but of the

810
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,359
loan or we what you're saying is

811
00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:13,859
basically they're just paying us back

812
00:38:13,859 --> 00:38:16,560
the cost of the of the of the repair

813
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,359
yeah the paving

814
00:38:18,359 --> 00:38:21,060
we can't

815
00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:24,540
charge them to carry right can we charge

816
00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:25,680
you carry you can charge them an

817
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,700
interest rate

818
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:28,320
but that has to be agreed upon before

819
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,880
they even go to the whole thing okay

820
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,320
yeah and it's uh there's a there's

821
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,359
there's statutes that dictate up to how

822
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:34,500
much I can't remember right now it's

823
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:35,820
been a while since I've looked at it but

824
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:37,380
you can

825
00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:39,900
and and there's also there's also a

826
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:41,940
pre-payment

827
00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:44,520
um discount so to say for that person if

828
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,820
they want to just be done with it and

829
00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,079
okay

830
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,960
so you brought this to us

831
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,520
I don't know a couple years ago maybe

832
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,800
and at that point I was not for it

833
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,119
because we were going to have to try to

834
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,920
find the money and do everything we're

835
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,060
still gonna have to find the money but

836
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:01,740
we're going to have it with the Geo Bond

837
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:06,060
so I'm okay doing it but I'm with Jamie

838
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:08,400
like if it's if there's a carry cost for

839
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,020
it then they they need to be paying that

840
00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:11,700
interest rate

841
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,780
um so I'm fine if we want to do that I

842
00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:18,660
just don't know how we

843
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:21,960
plan for that because we don't know if

844
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,060
anybody wants to do it but we need those

845
00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:26,400
numbers so I know we can put the numbers

846
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,680
in there and if we don't need it we

847
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,420
don't have to pull from it you know so

848
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:32,700
then the tax rate won't be as much as if

849
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:34,320
we pulled it

850
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,599
that's great okay well it kind of goes

851
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:37,800
in line with I'm what I'm going to talk

852
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,420
about next

853
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,099
are all of y'all have that same opinion

854
00:39:41,099 --> 00:39:43,320
is everyone okay with

855
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,599
I guess advertising that we're going to

856
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,400
address private roads by a petition

857
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,839
format

858
00:39:48,839 --> 00:39:50,880
yes yeah everybody's got to be on board

859
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,380
it can't be like one house and they're

860
00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:54,359
like I'm in and we pave in front of

861
00:39:54,359 --> 00:39:55,440
their house it's gonna be the whole

862
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,760
neighborhood but the way that the

863
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,920
statutes work is it's I don't know the

864
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,480
the specific details but I know it's

865
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,940
over 50 percent of the linear Square One

866
00:40:02,940 --> 00:40:04,680
linear footage owner so you could have

867
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,960
an area where

868
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,839
um where four people on four people are

869
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:12,720
on the street and one person is a 75

870
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,900
owner and the other three are just

871
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:18,480
little hits and misses that equal 25 and

872
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,920
you could still have that one property

873
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,660
owner that says let's do it make it

874
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:23,220
happen

875
00:40:23,220 --> 00:40:25,320
and the other four homeowners or other

876
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,780
three homeowners Sol yeah okay I don't

877
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:29,400
love that so again I'm gonna need

878
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,900
everybody in the neighborhood to be on

879
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,060
board with doing it before I even think

880
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:34,859
about doing that we can create a policy

881
00:40:34,859 --> 00:40:36,180
for it that dictates that but

882
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:37,859
statutorily that's the way that I just

883
00:40:37,859 --> 00:40:39,300
mentioned surely that's fine but that

884
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:40,380
doesn't mean that that's how we have to

885
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:43,320
do it okay correct that's right we could

886
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,640
force somebody to do it but I don't want

887
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560
to do that I'd much rather everybody be

888
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960
on board wanting wanting to do it and

889
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,420
wanting to you know have this extra

890
00:40:51,420 --> 00:41:01,150
everybody is in 100 yeah

891
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,180
most of the time when you have those

892
00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:06,359
minor owners that oppose it it's it's

893
00:41:06,359 --> 00:41:07,859
going to be either

894
00:41:07,859 --> 00:41:10,140
a smaller linear footage which means a

895
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:12,480
smaller cost and they just don't want to

896
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,640
do it so we can make the policy around

897
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,040
it we just we just want we as staff want

898
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,740
to be able to educate the public as to

899
00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:22,500
how the Geo Bond will is going to have

900
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:23,940
an implication on them they're going to

901
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,140
pay the tax are they going to get

902
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:27,240
anything for it yes we would be willing

903
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,339
to do the petition format according to

904
00:41:29,339 --> 00:41:31,320
our policy is is kind of what what I'm

905
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,700
hearing

906
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,400
I mean I'm fine with it but I think

907
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,900
there needs to be some parameters set

908
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:38,640
around it and we'll we would come back

909
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,960
to you all before that we just want to

910
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,160
make sure that y'all are conceptually

911
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,859
okay with running the money for an area

912
00:41:43,859 --> 00:41:45,480
that wants to have the roads paved I

913
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,619
mean essentially we're funding the area

914
00:41:46,619 --> 00:41:49,260
the money for everybody

915
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:53,160
but right like you do front the money

916
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,320
for my neighborhood like you'd front it

917
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,839
for in front of Andy's house yeah but

918
00:41:57,839 --> 00:41:59,099
you're not paying it back right but I'm

919
00:41:59,099 --> 00:42:00,300
just saying essentially like we're doing

920
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:01,800
it for everybody so why wouldn't we do

921
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,119
it for the private roads yes they're

922
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:04,619
private they're going to own them we're

923
00:42:04,619 --> 00:42:05,820
not going to own them we'll have to

924
00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:08,160
maintain them but we would want them to

925
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,599
be brought up to our standards and

926
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,180
that's what we're doing so if we can if

927
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,880
we can help them do it and do it a

928
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,320
little bit more economically than them

929
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,119
just doing it on their own you know

930
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:19,980
getting economies of scale because we're

931
00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:22,140
doing large projects then I don't know

932
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,240
why we wouldn't offer that yeah and one

933
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,160
I just don't want to force people to do

934
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,660
it that's my whole thing point of

935
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:29,220
clarification I need we need to look up

936
00:42:29,220 --> 00:42:31,260
me and chaplain do is I'm not so sure

937
00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:33,480
they can maintain to be they can they

938
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,859
can be private I think they have to go

939
00:42:34,859 --> 00:42:36,960
to public at that point so we'll chapel

940
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,060
and I will look at look that up

941
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:40,680
that would be bringing it up to our

942
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,240
standards so that we would then maintain

943
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:42,960
it

944
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,060
take it over and maintain it from there

945
00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:47,700
well we we should already know we we

946
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,339
know what neighborhoods those are

947
00:42:50,339 --> 00:42:53,760
and there's only a few so we

948
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,820
I'm fine for this exercise

949
00:42:55,820 --> 00:42:57,720
setting that

950
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:00,420
you know bringing that in

951
00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:03,119
but we need to kind of be proactive in

952
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:04,859
reaching out to them and saying okay you

953
00:43:04,859 --> 00:43:06,960
need to do your due diligence on whether

954
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,400
your neighborhood is going to be for it

955
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,220
or against it we don't it's it's not up

956
00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:13,260
to us we've we've allocated the funds

957
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:15,300
for it through the through the bond and

958
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,880
going from that standpoint so for this

959
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,640
exercise yes but we could be proactive

960
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,319
in going to the neighborhoods and saying

961
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:24,480
this is what you guys need to do and

962
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
give them the give them the box that

963
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,500
they need to play in okay well we'll

964
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,359
come up with some policy creation so

965
00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:31,619
y'all can wrap your head around it we'll

966
00:43:31,619 --> 00:43:33,660
look up the private roads versus public

967
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:36,780
after the assessment's done

968
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,839
um also want to note as we're talking

969
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:42,660
about the financial model if we are

970
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:45,119
recouping the money over a course of

971
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:47,579
five years so to say I'm not really sure

972
00:43:47,579 --> 00:43:49,680
we need to put it in as an expense

973
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,940
because it's not really going to be an

974
00:43:50,940 --> 00:43:52,619
expense that we have to additionally

975
00:43:52,619 --> 00:43:54,180
plan for because we're getting the money

976
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:55,140
back

977
00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:57,540
okay so Chaser when do you need to know

978
00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:00,119
that number by

979
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,359
um so that would just need to be known

980
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:06,960
when we submit our

981
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640
application to the local government

982
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,280
commission that puts the amount that's

983
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,480
going to be on the referendum question

984
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,900
and so right now that is

985
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:17,640
beginning of November so ideally

986
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,380
sometime maybe okay so we've got a we've

987
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:21,000
got a little bit of time to see if we

988
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,200
can reach out to some of these people

989
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,660
Christina that you may think yeah I'm

990
00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:26,280
just I just don't I don't think we need

991
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,660
to plug the number in though because we

992
00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:29,220
would get that money back within five

993
00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:30,480
years and if we're if we're talking

994
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,300
about doing one tranche and let's say

995
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:37,859
say 25 one tranche and 25 one five years

996
00:44:37,859 --> 00:44:39,540
from there three years from there we

997
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:40,800
will already be generating that money

998
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,079
back into our coffers okay so you don't

999
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:44,339
think that we would need to I don't

1000
00:44:44,339 --> 00:44:45,359
think we do I mean we could probably

1001
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:47,760
plug in a hundred thousand dollars just

1002
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,540
for engineering costs that we may not

1003
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:53,940
charge back to them I mean it's a total

1004
00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:56,220
cost of all private roads right now is

1005
00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:57,480
estimated at nine hundred thousand

1006
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,740
dollars which is basically just gonna be

1007
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:00,540
a wash then it's not gonna be okay I got

1008
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:02,099
it okay we just want to make sure we're

1009
00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:03,359
putting that information out to the

1010
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,819
public that that's a possibility

1011
00:45:05,819 --> 00:45:08,040
um do you agree I would just say from

1012
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,319
the modeling tax impact standpoint it

1013
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:12,359
will be a wash but if it is something

1014
00:45:12,359 --> 00:45:13,680
that we do want to consider for the

1015
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,020
general obligation Bond referendum that

1016
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:17,579
number will need to be included in our

1017
00:45:17,579 --> 00:45:20,339
Max offer authorization amount

1018
00:45:20,339 --> 00:45:22,980
so if it is 900 000 that'll need to go

1019
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:24,300
on top of all the other roads but

1020
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:25,859
Christine is saying like let's say that

1021
00:45:25,859 --> 00:45:27,060
we did it

1022
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:29,160
in the first

1023
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,220
like we paved their roads in the first

1024
00:45:32,220 --> 00:45:34,140
section of it

1025
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:36,000
we'd already be getting paid back so we

1026
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,440
wouldn't have to pull as much on the

1027
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,400
second

1028
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,440
issuance right

1029
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,180
is that what you're saying Christina yes

1030
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:43,800
but I think you're saying that if it's a

1031
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,300
part of the project

1032
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:46,619
initially that we're going to spend the

1033
00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:48,300
money on they need it needs to be in

1034
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:51,180
there right so for example if all other

1035
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:53,160
projects aside from the private roads

1036
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,920
were 14 million dollars and that's just

1037
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,780
what you went to the public with but

1038
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:00,000
then you used part of that 14 million

1039
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,220
dollars to pay for private roads then

1040
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:03,660
you're just siphoning off money that

1041
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:05,960
could go to other projects

1042
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,819
you're getting paid back quicker than

1043
00:46:08,819 --> 00:46:11,460
you would repay the debt that doesn't

1044
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:13,140
refresh or

1045
00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:14,280
um

1046
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,079
bump back up your authorization

1047
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,079
Authority into issue a second tranche

1048
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:20,880
down the line so you would want to

1049
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,880
include 14.9 million dollars for example

1050
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,359
you could use up to that 14.9 but if all

1051
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:28,859
the private roads don't come to fruition

1052
00:46:28,859 --> 00:46:29,880
then

1053
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,040
you can repurpose that authorization you

1054
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200
can just let it lapse but even though

1055
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,520
you're getting repaid back you still

1056
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
need to have that max amount authorized

1057
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,420
to issue the debt up front but you would

1058
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:41,280
borrow but you the money that you would

1059
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,900
use in the first tranche you would have

1060
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:44,280
it paid back by the time the second

1061
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,780
tranche is pulled so therefore you

1062
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:47,280
wouldn't have as much as you've

1063
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,800
estimated in the first or the second you

1064
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,720
and I can talk about that offline from

1065
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,420
the modeling standpoint it shouldn't it

1066
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:58,190
shouldn't affect the bottom line

1067
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,839
we'll talk about that the only other

1068
00:47:00,839 --> 00:47:02,339
thing I want to mention to you is the

1069
00:47:02,339 --> 00:47:04,020
potential for a traffic mitigation fund

1070
00:47:04,020 --> 00:47:06,540
this would impact the model

1071
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:09,540
um over the course of five years that

1072
00:47:09,540 --> 00:47:10,920
I've been here we've constantly had

1073
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,140
people come in and ask for Speed tables

1074
00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:15,300
stop signs that kind of stuff in their

1075
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,300
subdivisions crosswalks

1076
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:21,780
um pedestrian refuges like we've had a

1077
00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:24,180
lot of those requests we've offered to

1078
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:26,640
do cost share with HOAs like when the

1079
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,339
unfortunate case on Joe Carr where the

1080
00:47:29,339 --> 00:47:30,720
pedestrian

1081
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:31,680
um

1082
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,220
fatality we had about three

1083
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:36,780
subdivisions over there that want to do

1084
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:39,900
a pedestrian Refuge last crosswalk we

1085
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:42,000
offered a call share with them none of

1086
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,319
them were willing to do it at that point

1087
00:47:43,319 --> 00:47:45,900
in time so we we just want to know

1088
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:47,880
do you all want to put some type of

1089
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,000
money that reoccurs to help some of

1090
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,339
these minor projects that come up

1091
00:47:53,339 --> 00:48:09,290
when they come up for these requests

1092
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:35,990
like Marvin school or Joe Carr right

1093
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,349
so

1094
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:41,040
Marvin Creek had to Pony up their money

1095
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,500
too for theirs right so let's just keep

1096
00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:45,599
it the same from that perspective but

1097
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,250
then I agree if there's issues

1098
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:57,290
right there

1099
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,220
so what we can do and it's hard for us

1100
00:48:59,220 --> 00:49:00,599
to really say how much to put in there

1101
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,040
because if you're talking about just a

1102
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,140
crosswalk with lights and that kind of

1103
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:06,000
stuff it's fairly cheap I say cheap

1104
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,060
meaning forty thousand dollars but if

1105
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:10,859
you're talking about adding in a refuge

1106
00:49:10,859 --> 00:49:12,359
and you can yarn you can probably

1107
00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:14,520
correct my numbers if I'm wrong when

1108
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,020
you're talking about adding in a refuge

1109
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:18,359
you're talking about expanding the area

1110
00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:19,800
of the road and therefore it's going to

1111
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,240
be a lot more costly

1112
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:25,440
I'd say upwards of 60 to 80 000 on those

1113
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,480
types of areas so I don't know if you

1114
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,700
just want to leave that alone and not

1115
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,260
put anything in the model and if we have

1116
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:33,300
a surplus of funds from us being able to

1117
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:35,339
save money elsewhere we can talk about

1118
00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:37,079
it at that point in time or if you want

1119
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,119
to put in a couple hundred thousand for

1120
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,220
addressing those areas I thought we had

1121
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:43,680
some money in there for crosswalks

1122
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:53,270
especially on Joe Carr and Marvin no

1123
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,329
online

1124
00:49:56,339 --> 00:49:57,720
because I mean we've because we've got

1125
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,400
some issues on Joe Carr about crossing

1126
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,900
the street and I know that we had wanted

1127
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:03,000
to kind of cost share with the

1128
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,920
neighborhoods over there

1129
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,079
um but I think that if as we're doing

1130
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:08,819
these Road improvements and we can do

1131
00:50:08,819 --> 00:50:10,800
some of these things with the bond money

1132
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,140
I'm I don't know why we wouldn't

1133
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:14,880
put some money in there and I'm sure

1134
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,400
that your quotes that you got from a few

1135
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,079
years ago Christina are probably not

1136
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:23,870
accurate but we can at least you know

1137
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,359
just for safety purposes okay

1138
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:29,099
somebody's listening to me sorry I just

1139
00:50:29,099 --> 00:50:30,839
I remember we have some stuff marked in

1140
00:50:30,839 --> 00:50:34,020
the CIP and I don't know I mean it's got

1141
00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:37,680
the Story of My Life the dashboard

1142
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,700
or in the um

1143
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:43,859
part projects

1144
00:50:43,859 --> 00:50:46,920
but your this reflects okay

1145
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,540
we do not have anything specific in

1146
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:50,160
there about

1147
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,520
um crosswalks so if y'all want to add

1148
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440
some in there we can or we can do the

1149
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,720
approach of if we save on other projects

1150
00:50:57,720 --> 00:50:59,700
as we anticipate we're doing we can

1151
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:06,770
address that situation then

1152
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:09,710
yeah

1153
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:14,630
I'm inclined to see yes

1154
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,349
no no

1155
00:51:18,359 --> 00:51:20,940
no so y'all want y'all want to add two

1156
00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:22,260
hundred thousand

1157
00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,540
do you remember what the quotes were and

1158
00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:27,180
again I'm sure that they've gone up I

1159
00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:29,280
remember inflation and all I remember

1160
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,559
the Joe Carr situation was about forty

1161
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,660
thousand dollars each

1162
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:35,640
I want to say yes see I feel like we

1163
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,800
were getting all three at around 90.

1164
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,960
does that not sound right maybe because

1165
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,940
we were doing bulk

1166
00:51:41,940 --> 00:51:44,099
I think I remember that name

1167
00:51:44,099 --> 00:51:45,900
Bjorn do you have any

1168
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:58,549
general idea of Refuge crosswalks

1169
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,660
so I would say 50

1170
00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:03,180
50 for just a normal crosswalk like you

1171
00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:05,760
see down Marvin School Road if you're

1172
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,619
talking about making a refuge you're

1173
00:52:07,619 --> 00:52:08,640
probably talking about a hundred

1174
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,410
thousand dollars

1175
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,180
you have at least four places

1176
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:16,800
that I can think of right off the top of

1177
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,180
my head there's probably going to be

1178
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:20,160
more than that

1179
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,960
um are those where you'd want a refuge

1180
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,220
or would you want just a regular

1181
00:52:23,220 --> 00:52:24,540
crosswalk they're just like some sort of

1182
00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:26,640
not necessarily Refuge just a just a

1183
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,200
crosswalk just to have something lit up

1184
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,079
so it's just a little bit safer

1185
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:33,900
um well it depends on the speed zone too

1186
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:36,660
because if it's over 35 it requires

1187
00:52:36,660 --> 00:52:39,720
Refuge if I'm not mistaken if I'm on the

1188
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,400
roads we're going to have 10 mile an

1189
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,740
hour roads through Marble I'm just just

1190
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:45,660
throwing that out there that I'm pretty

1191
00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:47,640
sure if it's over 35 you have to have a

1192
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,440
refuge if you're crossing that's why

1193
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,500
they had to do that down here

1194
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:54,660
um and then they lowered the speed limit

1195
00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:56,520
but that was why that that Refuge was

1196
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,960
was placed okay well we can create 250

1197
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,640
000 and then we can create a committee a

1198
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,500
subcommittee to help decide

1199
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,140
how that how that's going to look for

1200
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:10,079
the for the purposes of this model are

1201
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:14,210
we going to do 50 000 per year

1202
00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:17,700
what is that okay 50 000 a year starting

1203
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:21,599
2025 going five years in a row

1204
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:22,800
he's just gonna put it in the first

1205
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,740
tranche okay so you're gonna put 250.

1206
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:27,720
especially like if we do it on Joe Carr

1207
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,460
then we might as well do all of them at

1208
00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:30,900
the same time

1209
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:37,790
while we're you know doing the road

1210
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,720
okay so he's got 250 in one Joe Carr 20.

1211
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,319
15. I'd be toast

1212
00:53:45,319 --> 00:53:49,790
you would be toast

1213
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,900
um so aside from that I wanted Jill to

1214
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,359
recap all the projects and this is going

1215
00:53:54,359 --> 00:53:55,859
to be

1216
00:53:55,859 --> 00:53:57,359
time consuming but I want to make sure

1217
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:58,920
everyone's on the same page with all the

1218
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,500
projects that are listed for the Geo for

1219
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:02,940
the roads to make sure there's nothing

1220
00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:04,980
that y'all think that we've forgotten

1221
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:07,380
that you thought was in there

1222
00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:10,500
um so can I wrap this up in a nice

1223
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,300
pretty boat tell you the major attacks

1224
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:14,400
impact because once we start the public

1225
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,200
education piece which Austin's going to

1226
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,579
get to in just a second this kind of is

1227
00:54:17,579 --> 00:54:19,200
what we're going to push out there these

1228
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,760
are the projects this is the tax impact

1229
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,920
this is how we're doing it so if Jill

1230
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,240
you can spend a couple minutes to go

1231
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,040
through each line by line on those

1232
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,800
specific projects that'd be awesome

1233
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,380
so just to confirm only the ones that we

1234
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:34,020
have listed roads referendum fund yes

1235
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:35,880
now none of none of what she's saying

1236
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,440
none of what we're doing right now

1237
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,170
covers anything to do with the parks

1238
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:43,500
okay

1239
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:46,200
so under Road referendum fund the

1240
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,319
projects that I show is being turned on

1241
00:54:49,319 --> 00:54:52,800
is the roundabout at wax on Marvin in

1242
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,780
bonds Grove Church Road did we turn that

1243
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:57,240
off we turned that on and that is just

1244
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,640
our share that is not the total cost

1245
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,660
with um the county and crtp just our

1246
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:05,099
chair okay

1247
00:55:05,099 --> 00:55:08,700
then we have way finding signs phase one

1248
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,390
through four

1249
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,880
then we have the s2b Stacy Howie Road

1250
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,240
wax on Marvin Greenway

1251
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:21,480
we have the C5 intersection of Joe Carr

1252
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,530
and Marvin Road

1253
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:27,599
we have s2a wax on Marvin Road and

1254
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,349
Newtown Road

1255
00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:34,630
C1 which is Tom Short Road

1256
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,980
c20a intersection of Newtown and Marvin

1257
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:41,470
School Road

1258
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,430
s2c Crane Road

1259
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,359
s1b the remaining portion Wheat Field

1260
00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:51,480
Drive to saddle Ave

1261
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:59,450
C15 Waxhaw Marvin Road

1262
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,940
on Waxhaw Marvin that section

1263
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:05,640
it says s2c Crane Road in parentheses

1264
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,559
wax on Marvin Greenway

1265
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:09,240
and Tyler's making a copy real quick of

1266
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:10,800
the map so y'all can visualize what

1267
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,119
she's saying so he'll be right back with

1268
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:15,410
that that copy

1269
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:18,829
The Greenway

1270
00:56:18,839 --> 00:56:22,040
you said S1 S1 or

1271
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,260
s2c yeah yeah any any of the numbers

1272
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:26,880
like that would be a Greenway okay sorry

1273
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,800
so should it not have Road referendum

1274
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,119
should it should it have Greenway

1275
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:32,819
instead no okay just checking because

1276
00:56:32,819 --> 00:56:35,640
it's for transportation purposes okay

1277
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,720
um

1278
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,400
I don't know not sure where I left off

1279
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,319
but

1280
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:42,420
okay no you're fine

1281
00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:44,579
um so s1b is the remaining portion

1282
00:56:44,579 --> 00:56:46,680
Wheatfield Drive to saddle Ave

1283
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,819
C15 wax on Marvin Road

1284
00:56:50,819 --> 00:56:54,079
um and since bonds Grove Church Greenway

1285
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,660
c20b Marvin eford Park Newtown Road

1286
00:56:57,660 --> 00:56:59,300
Greenway

1287
00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:03,849
C-17 bonds Grove Church Road

1288
00:57:03,859 --> 00:57:08,280
then we have NC DOT totals

1289
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,000
we have sidewalk acquisition and repairs

1290
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,020
Street blades miscellaneous drainage

1291
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:18,059
then the three that we just added

1292
00:57:18,059 --> 00:57:21,059
Newtown Road from the roundabout to

1293
00:57:21,059 --> 00:57:24,240
Ladera slash PDS

1294
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,700
we have the private roads that we just

1295
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:29,700
agreed to take on potentially and then

1296
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:31,880
we have traffic mitigation slash

1297
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,119
crosswalks slash safety improvements

1298
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,859
test out the map to you all there is one

1299
00:57:37,859 --> 00:57:39,000
section that's missing that we've

1300
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,260
actually got updated I just don't have

1301
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:41,460
it here but

1302
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,380
C1 was one of the ones that you guys

1303
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:45,059
added in which is one that she mentioned

1304
00:57:45,059 --> 00:57:47,280
so that's not highlighted in purple but

1305
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,020
that is one included just so you all

1306
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:50,640
know everything else you'll see the

1307
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,280
purple overlay and those are the trails

1308
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,260
that we have slated for transportation

1309
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:57,059
purposes in the general obligation bond

1310
00:57:57,059 --> 00:58:01,790
for roads

1311
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,720
is there anything that you guys see that

1312
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,520
we missed that we didn't that we

1313
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:28,790
shouldn't have put in

1314
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,720
I think I'm good

1315
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,640
I think it looks great I'm so excited

1316
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,260
about this I mean that is going to be

1317
00:58:34,260 --> 00:58:37,440
massive connectivity for all sides of

1318
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,900
the village this is gonna if we can get

1319
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:41,280
this passed this is going to be amazing

1320
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,339
so this mat that you see here we

1321
00:58:44,339 --> 00:58:47,220
generate this from our Consultants that

1322
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:49,140
did our master plan for parks and

1323
00:58:49,140 --> 00:58:51,599
Greenways we are going to pass this

1324
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:53,099
along to our Communications consultants

1325
00:58:53,099 --> 00:58:54,720
for the Geo Bond so they'll actually

1326
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,520
make it a lot more prettier a lot more

1327
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,040
nicer for the public to absorb this

1328
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,960
section

1329
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,040
and Austin we'll get to that in just a

1330
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,900
second but if everybody's good with this

1331
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,240
I'm going to ask chazo to give you guys

1332
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,460
again the tax impact and the years that

1333
00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:09,599
you guys will

1334
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:14,210
no

1335
00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:17,460
um so excluding private roads right now

1336
00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:20,640
we are at about 14.7 million dollars of

1337
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,720
Road related projects that's about 300

1338
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,880
000 or so higher than what we started

1339
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,400
with last time um so when Christina

1340
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,799
mentioned that the roads were four and a

1341
00:59:31,799 --> 00:59:34,319
half cents gone up a little bit now

1342
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:37,740
um right now it's about 4.75 so 0.25

1343
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:40,619
increase above where we were when we

1344
00:59:40,619 --> 00:59:42,480
started this morning

1345
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,420
and that that is beginning a near fiscal

1346
00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:48,000
2026 assuming that we issue half the

1347
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000
bonds in fiscal year 2025. and then

1348
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,799
three years later we're assuming we take

1349
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:55,619
the second half and issue that and that

1350
00:59:55,619 --> 00:59:57,260
would be an additional

1351
00:59:57,260 --> 00:59:59,520
2.75 cents

1352
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,960
which would take us up to seven and a

1353
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,900
half cents now again this includes an

1354
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:06,240
above Market interest rate assumption so

1355
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,520
obviously when the time comes for us to

1356
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,799
issue the debt we'll have current market

1357
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,240
interest rates at that time and we can

1358
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,540
refresh the model to suggest for that

1359
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:17,160
particular budget year what the property

1360
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,599
tax rate would need to be but for

1361
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:19,920
planning purposes we want to be a little

1362
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,240
bit on the high side just so that we're

1363
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,339
not missing the mark and cavity come

1364
01:00:23,339 --> 01:00:25,920
back to the public later with a property

1365
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,079
tax increase above what we stated what

1366
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:29,760
was the 2.5

1367
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:36,109
uh to 2.75 would be in fiscal year 2029.

1368
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,400
at the max it would be seven and a half

1369
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,520
cents um but as the principal and

1370
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,079
interests on the bonds start to pay down

1371
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:45,480
as presumably your value of a penny

1372
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,859
continues to grow you can reduce that

1373
01:00:46,859 --> 01:00:50,520
over time if you want to to mirror it

1374
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,380
with the debt repayments or if you want

1375
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:53,880
to keep it in place you can use those

1376
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:59,690
dollars for other purposes

1377
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,930
any questions on that

1378
01:01:02,940 --> 01:01:06,180
any questions on the map here because

1379
01:01:06,180 --> 01:01:07,500
we're going to roll with this once we

1380
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,079
leave here okay

1381
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,180
um and again this is just for

1382
01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:14,339
transportation this is not including the

1383
01:01:14,339 --> 01:01:16,559
parks which doesn't if you want to go

1384
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:17,760
over that number one more time we have

1385
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,859
not changed anything on that well I was

1386
01:01:19,859 --> 01:01:21,540
going to ask about the park because you

1387
01:01:21,540 --> 01:01:23,520
and I had had a conversation about the

1388
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,819
drainage in the situation with

1389
01:01:26,819 --> 01:01:28,920
current Village Hall site

1390
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,540
Amphitheater

1391
01:01:30,540 --> 01:01:33,299
possible site

1392
01:01:33,299 --> 01:01:36,119
do we want can we roll the the drainage

1393
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:39,960
study the drainage work into that

1394
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,480
project because

1395
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,319
what they're asking for now in terms of

1396
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:48,240
the cost to do it I would much rather

1397
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,150
roll it in to that than

1398
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,799
we can and so remember that number that

1399
01:01:55,799 --> 01:01:58,559
we had in the Parks model was around 3

1400
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:00,780
million I can't remember exactly was it

1401
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:03,839
3.5 this number was given to us by the

1402
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,059
Consultants McAdams that did the master

1403
01:02:06,059 --> 01:02:08,540
plan these are not engineered drawn

1404
01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:10,920
estimates so we don't know for sure that

1405
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,839
number is exactly right we can add

1406
01:02:12,839 --> 01:02:15,299
another 100 200 000 in there to drainage

1407
01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:18,599
if you would like but that 3.5 could

1408
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:20,760
include some of that

1409
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,400
I don't have an engineered stamps plan

1410
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,980
so we can or we can roll with this and

1411
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:27,960
just try to figure out

1412
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,700
what would y'all rather do have have

1413
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:32,870
more in there

1414
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,799
well if you just if you add the tax

1415
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:36,299
what's the tax application on it right

1416
01:02:36,299 --> 01:02:37,380
now

1417
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:39,180
so on the three and a half million for

1418
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:42,660
the parks that's about 2.25 cents so if

1419
01:02:42,660 --> 01:02:44,760
we added another couple hundred thousand

1420
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,940
four drainage and studies and

1421
01:02:47,940 --> 01:02:50,520
Engineering costs what would that be

1422
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,500
what it's not going to go much I know

1423
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:55,020
but what would it be just for fun so

1424
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:58,500
round numbers if I went from 3.5 to 3.75

1425
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:01,140
it's about another 0.25 cents okay so

1426
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:03,420
two and a half then yes okay I mean I'd

1427
01:03:03,420 --> 01:03:05,280
rather have more in there and not need

1428
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,380
it and be able to pay it back quicker

1429
01:03:07,380 --> 01:03:11,280
and drop the tax implication then not

1430
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,099
have it and need it

1431
01:03:14,099 --> 01:03:17,040
I mean that's that's a wise and again

1432
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,200
it's not our decision so I mean we're

1433
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,660
putting it out there right but it's it's

1434
01:03:21,660 --> 01:03:24,240
better to to have it not need it to need

1435
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,059
it not have it I agree so okay chazo can

1436
01:03:27,059 --> 01:03:29,400
you change that yes absolutely so that

1437
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,520
would be 3.75 million on the parks

1438
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,980
referendum and that'll be in a two and a

1439
01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:36,559
half percent tax increase

1440
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,880
whenever that hits we're assuming right

1441
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,680
now in fiscal 26 but whenever you all

1442
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:48,770
issue that portion of the debt

1443
01:03:48,780 --> 01:03:50,339
that's everything that I had for geo

1444
01:03:50,339 --> 01:03:51,960
bonds does anybody have any questions

1445
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,609
comments concerns on anything

1446
01:03:55,619 --> 01:03:57,900
uh in just a couple minutes Austin will

1447
01:03:57,900 --> 01:03:59,220
go over

1448
01:03:59,220 --> 01:04:02,099
the communications plan which is pretty

1449
01:04:02,099 --> 01:04:03,240
in-depth

1450
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,520
and y'all can have another opportunity

1451
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,020
at that point in time but for the most

1452
01:04:07,020 --> 01:04:09,000
part we're going to roll with the

1453
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,440
numbers that are here the tax

1454
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,880
implications that are here you'll start

1455
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,140
seeing some of that public education

1456
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:15,780
piece roll out shortly and and also get

1457
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:17,220
to that in just a second that's going to

1458
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:18,180
be more towards the end of the meeting

1459
01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:20,460
though

1460
01:04:20,460 --> 01:04:23,520
that's all I have Mr Mayor

1461
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,799
all right

1462
01:04:25,799 --> 01:04:31,430
next up we have presentation

1463
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,319
a presentation of Union County 2023

1464
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:37,200
critical intersection and Analysis and

1465
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,579
consider adoption of resolution

1466
01:04:38,579 --> 01:04:40,859
supporting the Union County 2023

1467
01:04:40,859 --> 01:04:46,849
critical intersection analysis

1468
01:04:46,859 --> 01:04:48,950
yeah

1469
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,970
so this is

1470
01:04:52,980 --> 01:04:56,579
a really productive eight months

1471
01:04:56,579 --> 01:04:59,930
and

1472
01:04:59,940 --> 01:05:02,640
so we started in January we had a

1473
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,980
stakeholders Committee comprising of

1474
01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:07,020
staff from each of the communities dot

1475
01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:11,280
carpo Union County and we met until

1476
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,319
August our September meetings actually

1477
01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:14,940
supposed to be tomorrow but we cancel it

1478
01:05:14,940 --> 01:05:16,619
because we didn't necessarily need it

1479
01:05:16,619 --> 01:05:18,180
and

1480
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:21,359
went through the schedule you see here

1481
01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:24,660
so we identified intersections based on

1482
01:05:24,660 --> 01:05:26,339
local knowledge

1483
01:05:26,339 --> 01:05:29,839
we confirmed our ranking across us

1484
01:05:29,839 --> 01:05:32,400
started collecting data on traffic

1485
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,559
counts crashes

1486
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:36,720
the configurations of the intersection

1487
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,520
constructability concerns we went out

1488
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,220
for public Outreach which was remarkably

1489
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:44,220
successful we then analyzed all that

1490
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:46,859
information and confirmed our scores for

1491
01:05:46,859 --> 01:05:49,200
the projects and then came up with our

1492
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,540
top 15 that 15 is not a magic number

1493
01:05:51,540 --> 01:05:53,700
it's just what we in what we started

1494
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:55,440
with seven years ago when we started

1495
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,119
this process and we've

1496
01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:59,640
keep kept that same number as we have

1497
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,980
done updates over the years and so now

1498
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:04,799
in July and August into September

1499
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:07,079
presentations and adoptions so we've

1500
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:09,720
presented to most of the municipalities

1501
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,160
that are impacted we actually have eight

1502
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,880
that have locations which is good means

1503
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,339
that there's a geographic dispersion to

1504
01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:19,980
the locations and we'll go to the Board

1505
01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:23,040
of Commissioners in mid-september for

1506
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,780
adoption

1507
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:27,599
so in terms of the public Outreach the

1508
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:29,819
western part of the county was well

1509
01:06:29,819 --> 01:06:31,920
represented we had nearly 3 000 people

1510
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,780
County Wide

1511
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:36,480
um black or I'm sorry Marvin had over a

1512
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,079
hundred respondents which was consistent

1513
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:41,760
with half of the municipalities in the

1514
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,680
county we had really good Outreach

1515
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,200
priorities were safety and congestion

1516
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,839
I'll note that I I didn't word the

1517
01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:50,760
question very well about safety and

1518
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,720
congestion because I asked them

1519
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,520
independently and when asked

1520
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,839
independently people said that's the

1521
01:06:54,839 --> 01:06:56,460
number one priority which is obviously

1522
01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:58,140
impossible so I needed to have it in the

1523
01:06:58,140 --> 01:07:00,720
same question for the future but they

1524
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,640
are both important and they're both

1525
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,200
considered in the evaluation process

1526
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,720
truck traffic it's a consideration it

1527
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,900
wasn't a particularly strong one though

1528
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,940
Geographic

1529
01:07:10,940 --> 01:07:14,520
dispersion not so much people wanted to

1530
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,920
prioritize growing areas

1531
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,200
bike ped it's a consideration it

1532
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,339
shouldn't be the only reason why we

1533
01:07:20,339 --> 01:07:23,520
choose a location and congestion safety

1534
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,020
comments were made throughout the county

1535
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:28,799
on Transportation needs in general so we

1536
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:30,539
heard a lot about a lot of

1537
01:07:30,539 --> 01:07:33,180
issues that weren't necessarily at a

1538
01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:34,740
specific intersection we also received

1539
01:07:34,740 --> 01:07:37,940
them for Indian land and and Charlotte

1540
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:40,740
as as things that they just wanted to

1541
01:07:40,740 --> 01:07:42,660
get it off their chest

1542
01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:45,720
so the scoring process we used the

1543
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,059
previous cycle used a a nice round

1544
01:07:48,059 --> 01:07:51,420
number of 100 it's now 115 because the

1545
01:07:51,420 --> 01:07:53,579
two rows at the bottom multimodal

1546
01:07:53,579 --> 01:07:55,319
considerations and constructability were

1547
01:07:55,319 --> 01:07:59,640
added it says that a project score or a

1548
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,559
location scores better if there's a

1549
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:04,440
readily identified pedestrian or bicycle

1550
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,539
deficiency at that location or by

1551
01:08:06,539 --> 01:08:08,220
improving that intersection you're going

1552
01:08:08,220 --> 01:08:09,960
to help connect the network and then

1553
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,119
constructability is let's let's

1554
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:14,520
prioritize locations that are easier to

1555
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,520
build than just hoping for the best and

1556
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,440
so that was a consideration as well to

1557
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,299
know how much

1558
01:08:21,299 --> 01:08:23,299
high power

1559
01:08:23,299 --> 01:08:27,600
electricity lines water sewer historic

1560
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,759
buildings

1561
01:08:28,759 --> 01:08:31,020
other types of considerations that are

1562
01:08:31,020 --> 01:08:32,520
going to make a pro a project more

1563
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,859
complicated

1564
01:08:34,859 --> 01:08:37,080
and the public Outreach process was very

1565
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,839
useful we identified multiple

1566
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:41,640
intersections that made it into the list

1567
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,500
as a result of what the public asked to

1568
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,359
say doesn't mean it doesn't mean it was

1569
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:47,219
Mob Rules it just meant that they

1570
01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:50,339
identified issues that we then looked at

1571
01:08:50,339 --> 01:08:53,460
and said for most of them yes this is

1572
01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:55,259
the location that actually scores really

1573
01:08:55,259 --> 01:08:57,600
well and we should include it and one of

1574
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,699
which is not necessarily in Marvin but a

1575
01:08:59,699 --> 01:09:01,199
lot of Marvin resonance would use which

1576
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:03,719
is Ray Road and Marvin School

1577
01:09:03,719 --> 01:09:08,689
some locations didn't make it in

1578
01:09:08,699 --> 01:09:10,980
they're also not necessarily in this

1579
01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:13,020
part of the county more towards the

1580
01:09:13,020 --> 01:09:15,719
Indian Trail stylings Monroe area where

1581
01:09:15,719 --> 01:09:18,179
there are intersections that have

1582
01:09:18,179 --> 01:09:21,540
objectively bad congestion and safety

1583
01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:22,920
scores the problem is they've already

1584
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,380
been essentially built out and so the

1585
01:09:25,380 --> 01:09:27,060
solution is not necessarily improving

1586
01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:28,920
that intersection it's improving the

1587
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,100
corridor which is beyond our capability

1588
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,719
of what we're considering through this

1589
01:09:33,719 --> 01:09:34,699
process

1590
01:09:34,699 --> 01:09:37,819
also the carpo

1591
01:09:37,819 --> 01:09:39,600
prioritization process for their

1592
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,219
long-range plan historically is only

1593
01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:42,960
looked at Corridor widenings or New

1594
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,120
Roads your Monroe expressways your

1595
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,560
Providence roads of the world not

1596
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,359
necessarily intersection improvements

1597
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,179
but we successfully argued over the last

1598
01:09:51,179 --> 01:09:53,640
couple years that one there just isn't

1599
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,140
enough money to do everything you've

1600
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:57,060
talked about in the past and secondly

1601
01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:58,820
you can get a lot of

1602
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,020
cost-effective improvements by focusing

1603
01:10:01,020 --> 01:10:03,239
at larger intersection particularly the

1604
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:04,620
ones that are too expensive for the

1605
01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:06,660
locals to consider on their own a

1606
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:09,540
perfect example is 75 and Potter which

1607
01:10:09,540 --> 01:10:11,340
is in downtown Mineral Springs if you're

1608
01:10:11,340 --> 01:10:15,300
driving towards Monroe on 75 it's a bad

1609
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:17,400
intersection you have a lot right on the

1610
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,660
intersection and a part of the reason

1611
01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:20,400
why the intersection is complicated to

1612
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,840
improve because you have the railroad

1613
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,520
tracks not even 100 yards to the north

1614
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,820
why should a town be responsible for

1615
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:29,699
improving an intersection and on an NC

1616
01:10:29,699 --> 01:10:33,239
Highway and a class one Freight Railroad

1617
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:36,480
as opposed to the dot so that's why we

1618
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:38,100
were able to successfully argue that in

1619
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:40,080
situations like that they should be able

1620
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,760
to be evaluated through carpo's

1621
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,020
long-range plan meaning they make it

1622
01:10:43,020 --> 01:10:45,179
into the step and they get implemented

1623
01:10:45,179 --> 01:10:47,580
by the dot without local match and and

1624
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:50,760
that impacts three intersections all of

1625
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,800
which are actually going to be evaluated

1626
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,739
in this step cycle uh 74 and 601 is one

1627
01:10:55,739 --> 01:10:58,500
of the highest Freight bottlenecks in

1628
01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:59,760
the entire region

1629
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,500
Rocky River and Old Charlotte Highway

1630
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:04,199
that is where the railroad the CSX

1631
01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:06,060
railroad going to Charlotte crosses at a

1632
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:07,800
diagonal you actually have two railroad

1633
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,239
crossings within 100 yards of that

1634
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:12,179
intersection is horrible we actually

1635
01:11:12,179 --> 01:11:14,100
submitted that as a railroad project so

1636
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:15,840
it might get funded not as a highway

1637
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,360
Improvement project but as a railroad

1638
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,620
Improvement project which is a different

1639
01:11:19,620 --> 01:11:23,159
pot of funds and then one in hemby

1640
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:24,900
Bridge which are two intersections right

1641
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:26,760
there in their downtown which have a

1642
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,260
huge amount of flood Plains very

1643
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:31,860
congested and is in need of improvement

1644
01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:33,239
it's going to be very expensive and

1645
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:35,159
there's no way that hemby bridge could

1646
01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:36,540
come up with the local match on its own

1647
01:11:36,540 --> 01:11:39,179
that's actually being submitted as a

1648
01:11:39,179 --> 01:11:42,360
step project as well so we've we've

1649
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,280
grown and matured and been able to take

1650
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,620
advantage of different flexibility and

1651
01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:48,780
pots of funds to implement these

1652
01:11:48,780 --> 01:11:51,590
recommendations

1653
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,000
so what people care about the most is

1654
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,679
did my intersection make the list so

1655
01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:58,679
here's here's the list there's 15 uh

1656
01:11:58,679 --> 01:12:00,540
there is a score associated with them I

1657
01:12:00,540 --> 01:12:02,880
will not say that the highest scoring

1658
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,420
one is the number one priority because

1659
01:12:05,420 --> 01:12:08,940
we partner all the time we obviously

1660
01:12:08,940 --> 01:12:10,080
have partnered with the village we've

1661
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,280
partnered with the dot with

1662
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,159
municipalities and

1663
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:16,440
whoever wants to submit a project and

1664
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:18,239
partner with us becomes our priority

1665
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:20,520
this just helped us determine what

1666
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,040
should make it into the list for example

1667
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,739
were

1668
01:12:24,739 --> 01:12:27,060
committing seventy five thousand dollars

1669
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:29,219
in partnership with Wesley Chapel for

1670
01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:31,860
the fourth intersection Newtown and

1671
01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:34,560
Cuthbertson we the dot said we think a

1672
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,060
roundabout is the right thing to put

1673
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:37,440
here

1674
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,120
we don't have all the money we'd like to

1675
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,679
go to carpo for some we need some local

1676
01:12:40,679 --> 01:12:41,880
match

1677
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,820
Wesley Chapel and Union County would you

1678
01:12:44,820 --> 01:12:46,679
come up with the money

1679
01:12:46,679 --> 01:12:48,540
Wesley Chapel is already committed to it

1680
01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:50,580
Board of Commissioners are going to

1681
01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:52,380
consider that at their meeting on

1682
01:12:52,380 --> 01:12:54,780
Tuesday fairly confident that that's

1683
01:12:54,780 --> 01:12:57,540
going to get approved so that's an

1684
01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:59,460
example of partnership and how we're

1685
01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:00,900
moving these ahead

1686
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:03,420
so I'll stop here for a sec do you have

1687
01:13:03,420 --> 01:13:05,460
any questions about this list or what I

1688
01:13:05,460 --> 01:13:11,030
presented so far

1689
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,080
okay

1690
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,400
so

1691
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,500
there were two I'm sorry there's one

1692
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,900
location that's on this list now which

1693
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:21,300
was Stacy Howie and

1694
01:13:21,300 --> 01:13:24,120
wax on Marvin

1695
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,580
I would note that

1696
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,460
you are also being considered or you've

1697
01:13:29,460 --> 01:13:33,020
also been asked as a part of previous

1698
01:13:33,020 --> 01:13:35,340
critical intersection analyzes to

1699
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:37,320
approve lists one of which was Joe Carr

1700
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,540
and Marvin and the reason why we weren't

1701
01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:41,820
able to advance that as a project was

1702
01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:43,679
because Marvin Road was on the Federal

1703
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:47,219
Aid System The Dot may own 80 000 miles

1704
01:13:47,219 --> 01:13:50,280
of roads but only a subset of that the

1705
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,140
most important roads actually are on the

1706
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:53,400
Federal Aid System where they can use

1707
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,800
federal dollars to make the Capital

1708
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,500
Improvements that may be needed we were

1709
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,540
able to between

1710
01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:03,000
City of Charlotte Union County and

1711
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,380
Marvin we were able to successfully

1712
01:14:04,380 --> 01:14:07,500
argue that this road serves that caliber

1713
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:09,360
of traffic and should be added it's

1714
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,940
since been added so now it's an option

1715
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:15,179
if the village in cooperation with the

1716
01:14:15,179 --> 01:14:17,280
county wanted to submit that

1717
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,460
intersection to get designed and cost

1718
01:14:20,460 --> 01:14:22,620
estimates developed to help with future

1719
01:14:22,620 --> 01:14:24,719
Grant applications you also have the

1720
01:14:24,719 --> 01:14:26,699
option of Stacy Howie and wax on Marvin

1721
01:14:26,699 --> 01:14:29,400
I'll note that Union County

1722
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,060
is willing to go into a 50 50 share on

1723
01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:35,400
the local match the estimated cost per

1724
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,340
location is uh forty thousand dollars

1725
01:14:38,340 --> 01:14:41,159
that's the budget so twenty percent of

1726
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:42,900
that's eight thousand dollars

1727
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:44,760
we assume that if it's inside of

1728
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,920
municipality we'll split at 50 50. so

1729
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,719
your share is four thousand dollars

1730
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:50,460
however we only have twenty thousand

1731
01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:51,840
dollars to work with so which means

1732
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,820
we're talking five intersections five

1733
01:14:53,820 --> 01:14:55,800
intersections and we've had interest for

1734
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,440
more than five so what

1735
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,780
um we determined internally is a way to

1736
01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:04,020
be fair is to say okay with all the

1737
01:15:04,020 --> 01:15:07,140
municipalities that have two or more

1738
01:15:07,140 --> 01:15:09,480
locations you could consider we'll go 50

1739
01:15:09,480 --> 01:15:11,460
50 with you on the first one

1740
01:15:11,460 --> 01:15:13,199
but

1741
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,420
for the subsequent one if you're willing

1742
01:15:15,420 --> 01:15:16,920
to put in all the match we could include

1743
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,400
that in our list but otherwise you've

1744
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,140
got to choose a location like if you

1745
01:15:22,140 --> 01:15:23,820
only want to go in on the 50 50

1746
01:15:23,820 --> 01:15:25,679
Arrangement you'd have to choose which

1747
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:27,480
one of these two locations you want to

1748
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:28,620
have

1749
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:30,120
um submitted as part of this design

1750
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,100
Grant which is due to carpo at the end

1751
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:34,980
of October so we have about two months

1752
01:15:34,980 --> 01:15:37,140
to figure this out and if you were

1753
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:38,580
sitting in our chair how would you

1754
01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:41,520
prioritize that from if we had to choose

1755
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,010
Joe car and Marvin

1756
01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:49,679
Beyond where where is uh where do we

1757
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:51,480
stand with

1758
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:54,470
uh

1759
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:58,140
Waxhaw Marvin and bonds Grove Church we

1760
01:15:58,140 --> 01:16:02,159
executed the interlocal last week and we

1761
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:03,659
are

1762
01:16:03,659 --> 01:16:05,640
we kind of run into a we'll work through

1763
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,620
it but we're working we're we're working

1764
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:09,199
through a little bit of Finance

1765
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:11,760
contractual issues with the D.O.T

1766
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,860
because our finance officer because

1767
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:15,900
we're the we're the applicant

1768
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:17,520
essentially and we're Contracting with

1769
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,239
the dot the dot is saying well

1770
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:23,400
you need to you need to acknowledge that

1771
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,600
if there's overruns you're going to be

1772
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,739
responsible for those two which our

1773
01:16:25,739 --> 01:16:27,179
finance department says well we don't

1774
01:16:27,179 --> 01:16:28,500
know what that number is so we can't

1775
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:30,780
sign for it until we know what that

1776
01:16:30,780 --> 01:16:33,600
number is and it's that that

1777
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,239
interpretation's actually and if Finance

1778
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:39,060
director share you can confirm or deny

1779
01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:40,980
this that there's been recent changes in

1780
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:42,960
like the responsibilities of Finance

1781
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,360
departments for local governments that

1782
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,699
kind of hits on that accounting

1783
01:16:47,699 --> 01:16:49,260
situation so we're trying to figure out

1784
01:16:49,260 --> 01:16:52,440
what to do but we'll we'll work on it so

1785
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,540
that's the fact that we're in that

1786
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:56,400
Contracting process right now so that

1787
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,140
the dot can start the design process

1788
01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:00,600
concerning 12 months ago you were being

1789
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,880
asked to consider putting grant money on

1790
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,540
it is remarkably fast I mean yes Newtown

1791
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:07,920
and Marvin's under construction right

1792
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,719
now and that's great but how many years

1793
01:17:09,719 --> 01:17:12,179
ago did that process start so we're

1794
01:17:12,179 --> 01:17:14,219
pretty pleased that that's where we

1795
01:17:14,219 --> 01:17:15,480
actually stand with that right now

1796
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,400
because that's got to be priority

1797
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,380
especially when you're talking about the

1798
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:21,540
widening of Providence that's that's why

1799
01:17:21,540 --> 01:17:24,000
that's why we identified it right that's

1800
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,860
right and the dot agrees and that's why

1801
01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:27,719
we're that's why we're potentially going

1802
01:17:27,719 --> 01:17:31,199
to Design Within months

1803
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:33,719
so I'd like to add um so in your packets

1804
01:17:33,719 --> 01:17:36,480
I have uh drafted a resolution

1805
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:38,340
um the first part of the resolution is

1806
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:41,699
uh supporting the 15 intersections in

1807
01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:44,520
their critical intersection findings

1808
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,380
and I also then in the highlighted

1809
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:48,060
section of that draft

1810
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:48,840
um

1811
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,580
up to council's discretion if we would

1812
01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:52,620
like to ask the county to include

1813
01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:54,780
both intersections no car Marvin and

1814
01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:58,440
Stacy Howie and Marvin or just one of

1815
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:02,600
those in the grand application to crtpo

1816
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,140
as Bjorn mentioned there is a funding

1817
01:18:06,140 --> 01:18:09,360
that we would have to be on the hook for

1818
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,940
for that Grant application

1819
01:18:11,940 --> 01:18:12,719
um

1820
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:15,360
so if we want to discuss that now I mean

1821
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,820
or I think we can adopt the resolution

1822
01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:19,500
to supporting the intersections and then

1823
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:21,900
have further discussion at the September

1824
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:22,800
meeting

1825
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,560
about the two intersections

1826
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,320
correct it's Fourth that is correct we

1827
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,900
don't it'd be nice to you know put this

1828
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:32,460
issue to bed but you don't have to make

1829
01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:33,900
a decision on the design Grant

1830
01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:36,060
application at today's meeting you

1831
01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:38,640
really have through September to allow

1832
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,380
us to then respond to it at our October

1833
01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:42,060
meetings

1834
01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:45,840
it's not but it's not today that's all

1835
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,940
right but if we do one

1836
01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:49,739
um if we just do Joe car and Marvin we

1837
01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:51,000
would be on the hook for four thousand

1838
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,560
of that Grant application if we do both

1839
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,410
it would be 12 000 total correct

1840
01:18:57,420 --> 01:18:59,340
so putting things in perspective August

1841
01:18:59,340 --> 01:19:01,080
September October this is this is what

1842
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:06,590
we're working on

1843
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,980
I need a motion we want to talk about it

1844
01:19:10,980 --> 01:19:14,040
bring it up I mean they're both terrible

1845
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,820
yeah I mean when when the Costco comes

1846
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:21,060
online I suspect that

1847
01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:22,860
the roads that you can sneak through

1848
01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:25,800
from wax on Marvin over to 521 are going

1849
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,000
to be

1850
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,920
impacted when the who comes to where the

1851
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,600
Costco online

1852
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:34,739
where's the Costco

1853
01:19:34,739 --> 01:19:40,310
possum possum Hollow on 521

1854
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,739
I got a new home to go to

1855
01:19:42,739 --> 01:19:45,960
okay all right I mean I think we should

1856
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,520
do both I mean I know it's going to be a

1857
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,540
little bit more because we have to pick

1858
01:19:48,540 --> 01:19:50,219
both but I think if we can get the

1859
01:19:50,219 --> 01:19:51,960
process started for both of these

1860
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,640
correct like that's really what you want

1861
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,780
to do you've got to get the process

1862
01:19:54,780 --> 01:19:56,940
started once you get the process started

1863
01:19:56,940 --> 01:19:58,440
then we can really go out for more

1864
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:00,840
funding opportunities yeah Step One is

1865
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,699
identifying the location step two is

1866
01:20:02,699 --> 01:20:04,440
what should be done at that location

1867
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:06,540
step three is getting the money to do

1868
01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:09,000
what was determined and stuff too so now

1869
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,699
we're to step three right

1870
01:20:11,699 --> 01:20:13,679
get the money for it to do this no no

1871
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:15,659
well no no I'm saying the money to build

1872
01:20:15,659 --> 01:20:18,420
it that's step three okay

1873
01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:20,520
okay do we have 12 000 if the council

1874
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,100
decides to do both intersections we do

1875
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:24,179
not we'd have to do a budget amendment

1876
01:20:24,179 --> 01:20:25,880
budget amendment okay that would be an

1877
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,340
fy25 expense it would not be the bill

1878
01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:30,960
would not come to this fiscal year so

1879
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,219
basically we would just be committing

1880
01:20:32,219 --> 01:20:33,659
those funds and then we'd incorporate

1881
01:20:33,659 --> 01:20:36,659
that 12 000 match for the grant

1882
01:20:36,659 --> 01:20:37,320
um

1883
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,199
in next fiscal year okay and refresh my

1884
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:42,920
memory what's the remedy for

1885
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,420
Marvin School Road and Ray

1886
01:20:45,420 --> 01:20:46,860
we don't have one that hasn't been

1887
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,199
designed either

1888
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,239
okay I mean it could be dual lefts

1889
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:53,760
that's something that's an option but I

1890
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,739
I can't say hasn't been designed it just

1891
01:20:55,739 --> 01:20:58,980
yeah but it's and it's not only traffic

1892
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:01,080
it's a lack of sidewalks we've had we've

1893
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,659
had Hunter Oaks uh HOA reps call us in

1894
01:21:03,659 --> 01:21:05,699
the past saying hey can you guys install

1895
01:21:05,699 --> 01:21:07,440
a sidewalk there

1896
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,840
no we can't

1897
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,840
um but you know if we got a project this

1898
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,640
is an example of where we could do

1899
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,010
something like that

1900
01:21:19,020 --> 01:21:22,189
um

1901
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:24,480
right

1902
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:28,729
so Hunter I'm looking at the resolution

1903
01:21:28,739 --> 01:21:31,440
the second whereas it says identified

1904
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:34,020
two intersections in Marvin Stacey Howie

1905
01:21:34,020 --> 01:21:36,239
and Waxhaw Marvin where's the second one

1906
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:40,270
sorry that should just be one

1907
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,140
I'm amending it as we go okay and then

1908
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:45,179
we've got so we've got this

1909
01:21:45,179 --> 01:21:48,239
this Joe car and Marvin got it okay

1910
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,219
Joe car and Marvin was identified in

1911
01:21:50,219 --> 01:21:51,980
their 2019

1912
01:21:51,980 --> 01:21:54,480
and so that's why I wasn't in their

1913
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:56,280
their new updated 2023 because it's

1914
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,420
still eligible

1915
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:00,120
that's fine I just wanted to clarify

1916
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,640
that make sure that it didn't need to

1917
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,500
have two and have both of them there or

1918
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:08,450
just say one and just have for nine

1919
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:10,260
okay I mean I'm I mean I'm good with

1920
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:11,640
this what do you guys think I'm good

1921
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,410
with it

1922
01:22:15,420 --> 01:22:18,420
could we add because the

1923
01:22:18,420 --> 01:22:20,820
for your sake for the two intersections

1924
01:22:20,820 --> 01:22:23,460
I have it reading that now be resolved

1925
01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:25,679
that the Village Council hereby supports

1926
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,239
the results of the Union County 2023

1927
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:28,860
critical intersection analysis and

1928
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:30,540
requesting intersections of Joe Carr and

1929
01:22:30,540 --> 01:22:31,679
Marvin

1930
01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:33,840
and the intersection of Stacy Howie and

1931
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,340
wax on Marvin to be included in the

1932
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:37,020
County's design Grant application do we

1933
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:38,820
need to add languages and that funding

1934
01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:41,040
be committed in the next fiscal year

1935
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,100
whatever works for you to to account for

1936
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,840
those funds is fine

1937
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,699
we'll deal with it I mean we'll go

1938
01:22:47,699 --> 01:22:50,699
through the interlocal process in 2024.

1939
01:22:50,699 --> 01:22:53,340
we need to we're good however okay

1940
01:22:53,340 --> 01:22:54,480
we're good I'll just put it in the

1941
01:22:54,480 --> 01:23:02,870
budget for next year

1942
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,860
so yeah someone want to yeah I mean I'll

1943
01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:07,080
do it I'm just I'm good so Hunter you

1944
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,880
actually changed the resolution Austin

1945
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,920
is right now okay

1946
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,840
so can I just do it as presented since

1947
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,280
you're changing it or do you want me to

1948
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:15,840
say it

1949
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,460
okay so I'm going to make a motion to

1950
01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:19,020
adopt a resolution supporting the Union

1951
01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:21,420
County 2023 critical intersection

1952
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,280
analysis and supportive including the

1953
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,640
intersection of Joe Carr Road and Marvin

1954
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,679
Road and the intersection of Stacy Howie

1955
01:23:28,679 --> 01:23:30,840
and Waxhaw Marvin roads to be included

1956
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,739
in the crtpo design Grant application

1957
01:23:34,739 --> 01:23:36,860
further discussion

1958
01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:40,760
all those in favor aye promotion passes

1959
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,020
thanks Bjorn thank you for your time

1960
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:53,530
nice to see you you too

1961
01:23:53,540 --> 01:23:56,159
motion for five minute recess thank you

1962
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:57,600
all's in favor

1963
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:10,729
aye

1964
01:24:10,739 --> 01:24:33,890
thanks Bjorn

1965
01:24:33,900 --> 01:28:08,220
foreign

1966
01:28:08,230 --> 01:28:31,669
[Music]

1967
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:39,590
foreign

1968
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,580
yeah

1969
01:28:41,580 --> 01:28:45,659
just I prevent you both before what

1970
01:28:45,659 --> 01:29:04,870
Chipotle how's that coming yeah

1971
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,800
me too

1972
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,600
I brought it yesterday and didn't get to

1973
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,920
it

1974
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:36,050
so

1975
01:29:36,060 --> 01:30:00,530
just

1976
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:02,400
yeah

1977
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:15,530
you know you can watch it live

1978
01:30:15,540 --> 01:30:20,590
Missouri

1979
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:42,110
the line for the potty was long

1980
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:50,390
oh

1981
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,400
there's no way ever getting out of here

1982
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,139
I felt that I don't know

1983
01:30:55,139 --> 01:30:57,960
yeah we're not

1984
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,360
what are you trying to go I have to go

1985
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:01,920
to Greenville

1986
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:08,689
deliver some furniture for my daughter

1987
01:31:08,699 --> 01:31:15,709
's board

1988
01:31:15,719 --> 01:31:18,199
hey Austin

1989
01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:39,590
all right so Brown said

1990
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,699
give me one second

1991
01:31:41,699 --> 01:31:47,330
spell

1992
01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:51,070
okay

1993
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,590
I'll see you again

1994
01:31:54,600 --> 01:32:00,350
yeah I'm good

1995
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,699
I'm going to jump back into reopening

1996
01:32:02,699 --> 01:32:05,940
our session and a work session and uh

1997
01:32:05,940 --> 01:32:08,699
uh next up we have on the agendas

1998
01:32:08,699 --> 01:32:15,540
discuss and consider adoption of an

1999
01:32:15,540 --> 01:32:17,340
ordinance for conditional rezoning

2000
01:32:17,340 --> 01:32:18,679
application

2001
01:32:18,679 --> 01:32:24,480
cz2023-1 to reason the 1.51 acre located

2002
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:27,659
Acres located at 9908 Newtown Road from

2003
01:32:27,659 --> 01:32:29,820
our Marvin residential to the Marvin

2004
01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:33,540
Harris District commercial only

2005
01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:36,900
okay so Council if you recall we held

2006
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:39,060
the public hearing on August 8th heard

2007
01:32:39,060 --> 01:32:41,760
from the residents we closed that public

2008
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,159
hearing and tabled the decision so this

2009
01:32:44,159 --> 01:32:45,360
is kind of that discussion portion

2010
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:46,860
between the council

2011
01:32:46,860 --> 01:32:49,739
I do want to kind of go over uh just to

2012
01:32:49,739 --> 01:32:51,320
refresh your memory of the staff report

2013
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,719
of the submittal and highlight some kind

2014
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:57,120
of key points so this middle is for the

2015
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:01,620
rezoning of the former Scott Wide

2016
01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:04,560
Property crane house property uh from

2017
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,360
Marvin residential to the Marvin

2018
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,280
Heritage District commercial only

2019
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:14,040
the applicant is zapsa at all at all

2020
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,120
um but uh zepsa Capital LLC they are

2021
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,639
proposing to renovate the existing home

2022
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:24,120
at a commercial kitchen and the proposal

2023
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,520
of two additional commercial mixed use

2024
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,120
retail buildings on the site

2025
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:31,080
um

2026
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,900
the applicant also uh

2027
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:36,480
the the site from a buffer standpoint

2028
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:40,980
it's a 20-foot no uh undisturbed buffer

2029
01:33:40,980 --> 01:33:42,480
on their property to couple with the 30

2030
01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:44,760
feet of The Preserve common open space

2031
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,620
for a total of 50 feet that back

2032
01:33:46,620 --> 01:33:49,739
building sits 84 feet off their rear

2033
01:33:49,739 --> 01:33:52,440
property line it sits 114 feet from the

2034
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:53,760
property line of any Residential

2035
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,639
Properties in The Preserve

2036
01:33:56,639 --> 01:33:58,199
um

2037
01:33:58,199 --> 01:34:00,080
the applicant is proposing

2038
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,280
28.26 percent of landscaping and

2039
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,679
buffering about 12 percent of

2040
01:34:04,679 --> 01:34:06,120
pedestrian-oriented Hardscape and

2041
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,100
outdoor amenities this total is 40

2042
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,080
percent of reserved open space for the

2043
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,380
development which is succeeds the

2044
01:34:13,380 --> 01:34:16,560
minimum of 30 percent per the ordinance

2045
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,040
the applicant is also proposing a

2046
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,540
to construct originally

2047
01:34:23,540 --> 01:34:26,340
the easement at the front for the Marvin

2048
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:27,840
Loop they were dedicating and he's been

2049
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,159
to the Village but they have offered to

2050
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:32,699
construct that eight foot path of their

2051
01:34:32,699 --> 01:34:35,040
portion of the Marvin loop it's per the

2052
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,540
standards and has to be approved by

2053
01:34:36,540 --> 01:34:38,580
ncdot and us so it's going to be built

2054
01:34:38,580 --> 01:34:40,860
to the design standards that we're

2055
01:34:40,860 --> 01:34:43,440
working on for that Marvin Loop project

2056
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,480
they're also proposing that connector

2057
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:46,920
piece at the back of their lot to

2058
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,340
connect with The Preserve internal Trail

2059
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:52,260
the vehicle and access and

2060
01:34:52,260 --> 01:34:53,460
transportation

2061
01:34:53,460 --> 01:34:55,500
the property is being proposed to be

2062
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:57,900
accessed from Newtown Road it will be a

2063
01:34:57,900 --> 01:35:01,080
right in right out configuration the

2064
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,000
applicant has also agreed to consult

2065
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,820
with DOT of any additional Road

2066
01:35:05,820 --> 01:35:10,320
improvements for their driveway entrance

2067
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:11,820
and all that will be taken care of

2068
01:35:11,820 --> 01:35:13,199
during the preliminary plot and

2069
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,239
construction document phase

2070
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:17,840
parking the developer is proposing 53

2071
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,400
regular parking spots and four Ada

2072
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,199
accessible parking spots for a total of

2073
01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:25,440
57. as you recall the Marvin Heritage

2074
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:27,960
district form-based code does not have a

2075
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,600
minimum parking standard for non-ada

2076
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,380
spots but this roughly equates to one

2077
01:35:34,380 --> 01:35:35,340
and

2078
01:35:35,340 --> 01:35:38,520
400 square feet of commercial one spot

2079
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,159
for every 400

2080
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:43,560
square feet of commercial retail space

2081
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,179
the applicant is also looking to secure

2082
01:35:45,179 --> 01:35:46,980
additional shared use parking options on

2083
01:35:46,980 --> 01:35:49,620
other adjacent sites that will that's

2084
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:52,440
that's the um that is up to the

2085
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:54,300
applicant developer to secure those in

2086
01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:57,000
riding and work those agreements out

2087
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,380
with any adjoining property owners as

2088
01:35:58,380 --> 01:36:03,890
they so choose

2089
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:05,360
um I do want to hit on

2090
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:09,300
the some of the deviation questions that

2091
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:10,260
kind of came up during the public

2092
01:36:10,260 --> 01:36:12,239
comment because the applicant and their

2093
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:13,380
some their current submittal being

2094
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:15,060
considered there's only three requested

2095
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:18,540
deviations there's not eight uh prior to

2096
01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:20,820
at their first submittal they submitted

2097
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:23,460
a deviation chart perk that's required

2098
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:26,639
per our ordinance those deviations

2099
01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:28,260
um regarding

2100
01:36:28,260 --> 01:36:31,199
setback building size all that stuff was

2101
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:34,199
uh not needed because the form-based

2102
01:36:34,199 --> 01:36:35,940
code was amended those amendments were

2103
01:36:35,940 --> 01:36:37,280
being

2104
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,420
addressed by staff and the village

2105
01:36:39,420 --> 01:36:41,760
attorney way prior to actually receiving

2106
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:43,800
their application

2107
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:44,940
um that went through planning board

2108
01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:47,340
Council approved those so there's their

2109
01:36:47,340 --> 01:36:49,139
proposal is compliant the only three

2110
01:36:49,139 --> 01:36:52,739
deviations left are the parking spots

2111
01:36:52,739 --> 01:36:56,219
being nine by 18 our ordinance requires

2112
01:36:56,219 --> 01:36:59,990
10

2113
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,990
sorry hold on

2114
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,340
where's that are the ordinance requires

2115
01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:08,460
10 by 20 staff is okay with 9x18 that's

2116
01:37:08,460 --> 01:37:10,080
what we the minimum parking standard for

2117
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,940
DOT that is also the minimum parking

2118
01:37:11,940 --> 01:37:14,100
size in Marvin Gardens

2119
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:16,679
the applicant's also proposing to do a

2120
01:37:16,679 --> 01:37:18,300
crushed concrete parking service

2121
01:37:18,300 --> 01:37:20,280
compared to Paving the ordinance does

2122
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,920
require that parking lot spaces must be

2123
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,380
paved over any spots over 10 parking

2124
01:37:25,380 --> 01:37:26,340
spots

2125
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:28,199
staff's okay with this deviation request

2126
01:37:28,199 --> 01:37:30,960
as well is because it does promote kind

2127
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,820
of that Rural Preservation feel it also

2128
01:37:32,820 --> 01:37:34,679
helps with uh less impervious surface

2129
01:37:34,679 --> 01:37:37,260
they will they are required to do a

2130
01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:39,480
maintenance planning agreement for their

2131
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:41,880
parking service so if if the rezoning is

2132
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,679
approved they will submit that

2133
01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:46,020
maintenance plan in agreement with their

2134
01:37:46,020 --> 01:37:48,300
construction documents

2135
01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:50,639
the final deviation that's left is the

2136
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:53,219
no designated loading space the

2137
01:37:53,219 --> 01:37:55,320
ordinance requires a 12 by 25 loading

2138
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,219
space

2139
01:37:56,219 --> 01:37:58,880
they the applicant is proposing two

2140
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,440
there's two parallel spots at the top of

2141
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:02,580
the site

2142
01:38:02,580 --> 01:38:05,280
sorry I don't have it pulled off

2143
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,199
but up here by their trash and I can

2144
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:09,480
pull it up in PB those are going to be

2145
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:10,739
designated

2146
01:38:10,739 --> 01:38:12,719
um a designated loading zone During

2147
01:38:12,719 --> 01:38:14,100
certain hours but it'd be used for

2148
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:16,500
parking and outside those hours

2149
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:18,659
so those are the only three deviations

2150
01:38:18,659 --> 01:38:22,199
being requested as part of the submittal

2151
01:38:22,199 --> 01:38:24,060
and the other five

2152
01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:28,500
that were I guess brought up

2153
01:38:28,500 --> 01:38:31,500
we were changing those deviations

2154
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:33,600
before they even purchased the property

2155
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,040
correct

2156
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,520
and those and those five deviations were

2157
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,020
based on

2158
01:38:40,020 --> 01:38:43,139
other municipalities and being coming up

2159
01:38:43,139 --> 01:38:47,280
to other Municipal other municipalities

2160
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,040
standards correct earlier this year with

2161
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,860
meeting with certain Property Owners

2162
01:38:51,860 --> 01:38:54,000
within the Heritage district and kind of

2163
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,860
going through hey how you know working

2164
01:38:55,860 --> 01:38:58,139
on submittals they pointed some things

2165
01:38:58,139 --> 01:38:59,940
out dealing with inconsistencies and

2166
01:38:59,940 --> 01:39:03,179
kind of how it uh really impacts

2167
01:39:03,179 --> 01:39:05,159
even getting to the develop like getting

2168
01:39:05,159 --> 01:39:06,420
to the point where they can propose

2169
01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:08,400
something to us I discussed this with

2170
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,679
chaplain chaplain identify him and I

2171
01:39:10,679 --> 01:39:11,820
both went through it highlighted

2172
01:39:11,820 --> 01:39:13,380
sections that were inconsistent didn't

2173
01:39:13,380 --> 01:39:15,600
make sense and those were sections that

2174
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,239
were that were addressed

2175
01:39:17,239 --> 01:39:19,860
the applicant was following that process

2176
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:21,420
because they submitted their rezoning

2177
01:39:21,420 --> 01:39:22,980
after the fact and obviously we're aware

2178
01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:24,900
and so when they when it was going

2179
01:39:24,900 --> 01:39:27,840
through planning board they catered the

2180
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,940
the their side to what planning like the

2181
01:39:29,940 --> 01:39:31,080
ordinance that planning board

2182
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,120
recommended so that's why it was kind of

2183
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,620
following that process but other than

2184
01:39:34,620 --> 01:39:37,260
that yeah those those amendments started

2185
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:40,320
prior to the rezoning okay and the three

2186
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:41,960
remaining

2187
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,820
deviations would you say that they would

2188
01:39:44,820 --> 01:39:47,820
be consistent with other municipalities

2189
01:39:47,820 --> 01:39:51,060
uh yes I mean the um parking space like

2190
01:39:51,060 --> 01:39:54,420
I said the 9x18 ncdot standard we also

2191
01:39:54,420 --> 01:39:56,040
allowed that that's the minimum parking

2192
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,440
space requirement for Marvin Gardens the

2193
01:39:58,440 --> 01:39:59,639
parking surface most other

2194
01:39:59,639 --> 01:40:01,380
municipalities

2195
01:40:01,380 --> 01:40:03,840
you know they are the form-based code

2196
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,219
says it has to be paid most of their

2197
01:40:05,219 --> 01:40:07,020
municipalities have in there where it

2198
01:40:07,020 --> 01:40:07,920
says

2199
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,580
must be paved or you know some type of

2200
01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:13,739
hard surface Crush gravel something like

2201
01:40:13,739 --> 01:40:15,540
that and then it always has some turns

2202
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:17,219
in there but it's uh subject to maybe

2203
01:40:17,219 --> 01:40:19,199
you know Village engineer or you know

2204
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:21,780
Municipal engineer or planning directors

2205
01:40:21,780 --> 01:40:24,239
um discretion uh and same thing with the

2206
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,520
loading zone most ordinances do require

2207
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:27,900
a loading zone for any type of

2208
01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:30,480
commercial retail establishment

2209
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:31,260
um

2210
01:40:31,260 --> 01:40:33,239
and they're still providing that but

2211
01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:34,440
it's also it's just how the

2212
01:40:34,440 --> 01:40:36,000
functionality of their site that's why

2213
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,679
they're requesting this deviation

2214
01:40:37,679 --> 01:40:39,239
because it is a lot like a long and

2215
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:40,739
narrow side compared to something that

2216
01:40:40,739 --> 01:40:44,400
has a little bit more movability per se

2217
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,840
okay because I just want to make sure

2218
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,360
that we're that we as a village are

2219
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,639
consistent with other municipalities so

2220
01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:53,100
someone you know can't come in and say

2221
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:54,780
that the that

2222
01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:57,480
were inconsistent right and the changes

2223
01:40:57,480 --> 01:40:58,739
that were made to the form-based code

2224
01:40:58,739 --> 01:41:01,679
were all when I took um was presenting

2225
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:02,880
it to planning board like I said it was

2226
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,080
in planning board for three months it

2227
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,780
was April May and June

2228
01:41:06,780 --> 01:41:08,040
um

2229
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,560
I provided them research of about 10

2230
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,179
different municipalities and what their

2231
01:41:12,179 --> 01:41:14,820
ordinances read for kind of similar like

2232
01:41:14,820 --> 01:41:16,219
neighborhood commercial

2233
01:41:16,219 --> 01:41:19,620
districts and that's how that those

2234
01:41:19,620 --> 01:41:21,420
amendments the form-based code were made

2235
01:41:21,420 --> 01:41:24,060
or derived were out of looking at

2236
01:41:24,060 --> 01:41:26,219
what other municipalities are doing how

2237
01:41:26,219 --> 01:41:29,219
it best impacts and best fits Marvin and

2238
01:41:29,219 --> 01:41:30,780
um you know to mention too is like I

2239
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:33,420
said it's conditional zoning District so

2240
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:35,100
things can always kind of be greater

2241
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:38,219
than what we uh

2242
01:41:38,219 --> 01:41:40,020
can always kind of be amended to be

2243
01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:41,940
greater or requested to be greater than

2244
01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:49,209
what's in the ordinance okay thank you

2245
01:41:49,219 --> 01:41:51,300
so finally

2246
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:51,900
um

2247
01:41:51,900 --> 01:41:53,760
after some discussion too with the

2248
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,980
applicant and from the public hearing

2249
01:41:55,980 --> 01:41:57,659
the applicant has agreed on their site

2250
01:41:57,659 --> 01:42:00,480
plan to do a fence on the side property

2251
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:03,239
line between the church and their

2252
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:05,940
property they've also agreed to raise

2253
01:42:05,940 --> 01:42:09,060
the height of the fence to seven feet uh

2254
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:10,739
from six to seven so it'll be seven feet

2255
01:42:10,739 --> 01:42:16,189
on the side and rear

2256
01:42:16,199 --> 01:42:19,990
um

2257
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,350
honor I know that we we haven't

2258
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,590
um

2259
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:32,280
we're scheduled to have a meeting with

2260
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,280
uh Weddington Methodist

2261
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,199
so how does that impact any of this

2262
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:38,219
today

2263
01:42:38,219 --> 01:42:41,219
if there's an like I said it goes back

2264
01:42:41,219 --> 01:42:44,280
to that shared agreement for parking

2265
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,619
they are proposing the 57 spots on their

2266
01:42:46,619 --> 01:42:47,480
site

2267
01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:50,280
the districts intended like I said it's

2268
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,900
kind of you know piece Milling like we

2269
01:42:51,900 --> 01:42:53,100
have the

2270
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:54,659
no minimum parking standards because

2271
01:42:54,659 --> 01:42:56,400
it's supposed to be kind of a you know a

2272
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:57,920
Village Center intertwined type

2273
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,659
development throughout this is just the

2274
01:43:00,659 --> 01:43:02,100
first application it is one of the

2275
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:04,800
smaller properties so if the applicant

2276
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,719
does secure you know some type of shared

2277
01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:08,699
parking agreement through the church per

2278
01:43:08,699 --> 01:43:09,900
se

2279
01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:12,000
um it would not I mean impact this

2280
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:13,320
rezoning it would just it would actually

2281
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,420
benefit them it would it could also

2282
01:43:15,420 --> 01:43:17,040
potentially benefit the church

2283
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,619
okay I just want to because I just want

2284
01:43:19,619 --> 01:43:22,310
to be

2285
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,679
aware of and have everyone aware of work

2286
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:28,800
that that we're still working through

2287
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,500
other

2288
01:43:30,500 --> 01:43:34,199
concerns from the church and respectful

2289
01:43:34,199 --> 01:43:36,960
of them that that we work through those

2290
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,820
concerns continue to work through those

2291
01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:41,940
concerns correct yeah yeah the

2292
01:43:41,940 --> 01:43:44,100
their site plan has those vehicular

2293
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:46,560
stubbed to adjacent properties there at

2294
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,260
the rear like I said that is

2295
01:43:49,260 --> 01:43:51,360
set up through the ordinance to have

2296
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:52,500
that interconnectivity between

2297
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:55,500
properties so potentially you know

2298
01:43:55,500 --> 01:43:57,600
additional parking could be at the rear

2299
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,239
there could be some additional parking

2300
01:43:59,239 --> 01:44:01,380
at the front but that just has to be

2301
01:44:01,380 --> 01:44:03,659
agreed upon between the property owners

2302
01:44:03,659 --> 01:44:10,990
okay

2303
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,739
Hunter for for mayor may I speak this is

2304
01:44:13,739 --> 01:44:15,600
chaplain Spencer we've also got the

2305
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,300
development agreement you previously saw

2306
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:21,000
a draft of the development agreement

2307
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,040
in this zoning District

2308
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,380
and in accordance with the proposed

2309
01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:27,300
ordinance if you do move forward with

2310
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:29,400
approval you approve the development

2311
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,340
agreement at the same time which sets

2312
01:44:32,340 --> 01:44:35,820
forth supplemental terms and conditions

2313
01:44:35,820 --> 01:44:39,000
there have been some minor deviations

2314
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,340
and clarifications from the development

2315
01:44:41,340 --> 01:44:43,440
agreement that you saw in your agenda

2316
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:44,340
packet

2317
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:48,179
at the the first meeting uh one is in

2318
01:44:48,179 --> 01:44:50,940
section 4.3 vested rights

2319
01:44:50,940 --> 01:44:53,280
they proposed 10 years that would give

2320
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,580
them 10 years to develop uh without any

2321
01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:58,739
changes or modifications in our rules

2322
01:44:58,739 --> 01:45:00,420
and regulations

2323
01:45:00,420 --> 01:45:03,239
I had originally suggested I think three

2324
01:45:03,239 --> 01:45:05,580
but hunter said that was um

2325
01:45:05,580 --> 01:45:08,639
too tight and he didn't like that I

2326
01:45:08,639 --> 01:45:10,619
think Hunter was at Bob the draft

2327
01:45:10,619 --> 01:45:12,840
language is for seven years and that's

2328
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,239
something that Council can discuss also

2329
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:19,679
in section 4.4 are the uses we added

2330
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:20,820
language

2331
01:45:20,820 --> 01:45:24,060
so that each of the three special permit

2332
01:45:24,060 --> 01:45:28,080
uses that being the restaurant serving

2333
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,719
alcohol the micro Brewery and the vet

2334
01:45:30,719 --> 01:45:33,000
clinic each one of those is now limit

2335
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,639
limited to one use so there could only

2336
01:45:35,639 --> 01:45:37,860
be one restaurant unless they came back

2337
01:45:37,860 --> 01:45:39,179
before the board

2338
01:45:39,179 --> 01:45:41,460
or for a minor Amendment which they

2339
01:45:41,460 --> 01:45:42,719
could certainly do but they would have

2340
01:45:42,719 --> 01:45:45,060
to get another permit if there's a

2341
01:45:45,060 --> 01:45:46,500
second restaurant or a second

2342
01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:48,060
microbrewery

2343
01:45:48,060 --> 01:45:52,619
uh and we also addressed uh

2344
01:45:52,619 --> 01:45:55,689
the parking

2345
01:45:55,699 --> 01:45:58,619
uh and the um

2346
01:45:58,619 --> 01:46:00,360
and the sidewalk

2347
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,400
um issues and just clarify that a little

2348
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,729
bit more

2349
01:46:04,739 --> 01:46:07,800
along with regulations on the hours of

2350
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:13,209
um the noise

2351
01:46:13,219 --> 01:46:15,300
chaplain where did you say the vested

2352
01:46:15,300 --> 01:46:23,030
rights were four section 4.3

2353
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,580
4.6

2354
01:46:25,580 --> 01:46:29,340
the term is seven the term is 4.3 so the

2355
01:46:29,340 --> 01:46:30,659
term of the agreement is kind of their

2356
01:46:30,659 --> 01:46:33,119
vested period so it is 70. okay all

2357
01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:41,510
right okay thank you

2358
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,800
so all the all the terms within this

2359
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,540
development agreement have already been

2360
01:46:45,540 --> 01:46:49,619
agreed upon by the applicant

2361
01:46:49,619 --> 01:46:51,840
um they have been discussed with Council

2362
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,400
uh

2363
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,080
so all these have been mutually agreed

2364
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,300
upon but this is just kind of the the

2365
01:46:57,300 --> 01:46:58,980
document that kind of makes it binding

2366
01:46:58,980 --> 01:47:01,380
it does get recorded it incorporates the

2367
01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:03,719
site plan and all those Provisions uh

2368
01:47:03,719 --> 01:47:14,030
the elevations and all that

2369
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,320
Hunter is there somewhere in here where

2370
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,990
there cannot be a second hand

2371
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,179
store remember we talked about that that

2372
01:47:24,179 --> 01:47:26,340
is yes that's the way they still have to

2373
01:47:26,340 --> 01:47:27,480
go through the special use permit

2374
01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:29,400
process

2375
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,219
yeah but you said that we couldn't deny

2376
01:47:32,219 --> 01:47:34,320
it that way so we were going to put it

2377
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,480
in this that and no buildings could they

2378
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:38,340
have a second hand store until we get

2379
01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:41,280
that changed on the

2380
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:45,490
use list

2381
01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:50,649
I don't know where's the group at City

2382
01:47:50,659 --> 01:47:54,960
that's what I'm saying I want that

2383
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,659
basically is just to prohibit

2384
01:47:57,659 --> 01:47:59,820
um the use of because the way the

2385
01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:01,139
language reads it was a concern of

2386
01:48:01,139 --> 01:48:02,460
counsel

2387
01:48:02,460 --> 01:48:03,360
um

2388
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,100
prohibit consignment thrift secondhand

2389
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:06,060
store

2390
01:48:06,060 --> 01:48:13,149
as it just said prohibited use

2391
01:48:13,159 --> 01:48:14,840
it's

2392
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,760
I don't I don't want a good will rolling

2393
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,699
up in here and we can't prohibit

2394
01:48:20,699 --> 01:48:22,860
specific companies from being here

2395
01:48:22,860 --> 01:48:24,300
Goodwill would be second-hand

2396
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:26,580
Consignment and I do not want a Goodwill

2397
01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:28,320
in there so I would

2398
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,139
prefer that that is not a use that would

2399
01:48:31,139 --> 01:48:33,179
be allowed in this until we can get it

2400
01:48:33,179 --> 01:48:44,390
off of this list for the entire District

2401
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,100
I I think it would be no it would be an

2402
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:50,689
antique store

2403
01:48:50,699 --> 01:48:53,100
okay can we put that in there somewhere

2404
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:55,380
because I do not want a Goodwill

2405
01:48:55,380 --> 01:49:01,129
I love Goodwill I donate to Goodwill

2406
01:49:01,139 --> 01:49:03,060
no well because that's a Goodwill store

2407
01:49:03,060 --> 01:49:06,600
I mean I don't want any

2408
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,420
you but you can't prohibit Goodwill from

2409
01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:12,960
coming in so I do not want that is my

2410
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:22,450
fear is it a Goodwill will come in there

2411
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:26,340
and antiques is different it would be a

2412
01:49:26,340 --> 01:49:28,619
design store or an antique store but

2413
01:49:28,619 --> 01:49:32,330
we're

2414
01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:34,800
you can go down the Antique Road for

2415
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,320
that not a consignment thrift second

2416
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,699
hand

2417
01:49:38,699 --> 01:49:40,080
Hunter and chaplain y'all can work out

2418
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:41,340
some language where the primary use

2419
01:49:41,340 --> 01:49:42,659
would be to

2420
01:49:42,659 --> 01:49:47,629
uh secondary I just I don't

2421
01:49:47,639 --> 01:49:49,560
where the primary use is that if you

2422
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,000
want to y'all can work on that language

2423
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,880
can you cite yes we we do need to

2424
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,460
confirm that the applicant

2425
01:49:56,460 --> 01:50:00,530
consents to that

2426
01:50:00,540 --> 01:50:01,800
stuff

2427
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,400
they do consent chaplains can you you

2428
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,100
can chaplain I guess I'm assuming that

2429
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:10,380
you can cite

2430
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:12,239
specific

2431
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:15,480
stores like you can't

2432
01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:20,209
yeah we're here to regulate you

2433
01:50:20,219 --> 01:50:22,199
no we can't prohibit especially a

2434
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:24,360
specific store from coming in

2435
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,699
you can't prohibit a McDonald's you can

2436
01:50:26,699 --> 01:50:30,260
prohibit a fast food restaurant uh

2437
01:50:30,260 --> 01:50:34,679
that has a window so we go after uses

2438
01:50:34,679 --> 01:50:37,500
but I think we can add the language that

2439
01:50:37,500 --> 01:50:39,780
you'll prohibit a consignment and

2440
01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:42,239
secondhand store and I do concur that

2441
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:43,860
that is completely different than an

2442
01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:48,649
antique store

2443
01:50:48,659 --> 01:50:54,830
okay thanks chaplain

2444
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:56,820
so chaplain for them to uh to adopt the

2445
01:50:56,820 --> 01:50:57,960
development agreement they just need to

2446
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,940
adopt it as amended to add the provision

2447
01:50:59,940 --> 01:51:02,400
there to prohibit consignment thrift

2448
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,619
secondhand store as a use

2449
01:51:04,619 --> 01:51:07,199
yes and with uh and authorized the

2450
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:09,420
manager to execute with any final

2451
01:51:09,420 --> 01:51:11,820
changes okay

2452
01:51:11,820 --> 01:51:13,679
we need to have somebody to approve it

2453
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:20,330
on our end that'd be the manager

2454
01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:23,040
development agreement as amended

2455
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:41,390
to prohibit

2456
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,990
I unlocked it this morning

2457
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:49,070
any other questions by Council

2458
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,780
so Chaplin in the just uh in the packets

2459
01:51:51,780 --> 01:51:54,119
I have an ordinance for the rezoning do

2460
01:51:54,119 --> 01:51:56,340
they need to make us to do a motion to

2461
01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:58,380
adopt the ordinance for the rezoning and

2462
01:51:58,380 --> 01:51:59,460
then do a separate motion for the

2463
01:51:59,460 --> 01:52:01,380
development agreement

2464
01:52:01,380 --> 01:52:04,320
no it is all you you have both in the

2465
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:05,699
ordinance already

2466
01:52:05,699 --> 01:52:09,060
okay your ordinance includes the

2467
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:10,260
rezoning

2468
01:52:10,260 --> 01:52:12,600
and the development agreement and they

2469
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:14,040
can just say the development agreement

2470
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,380
as amended because we know

2471
01:52:16,380 --> 01:52:18,960
what the the amendment is through this

2472
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:27,830
discussion it's just one Amendment

2473
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,950
s

2474
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,540
for development agreement

2475
01:52:33,540 --> 01:52:35,520
our 4A development agreement

2476
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,060
yes your um ordinance has section one

2477
01:52:39,060 --> 01:52:40,739
with the zoning

2478
01:52:40,739 --> 01:52:43,560
and then uh section two is the

2479
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:45,960
development agreement

2480
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:47,639
along with section three so it's already

2481
01:52:47,639 --> 01:52:49,080
governed so

2482
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,940
Okay so

2483
01:52:50,940 --> 01:52:52,800
sorry chaplain go ahead

2484
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,360
yeah but I was just saying it's already

2485
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,060
comprehensive so

2486
01:52:56,060 --> 01:52:58,320
the only thing you need to add in your

2487
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,000
motion from the language that is already

2488
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,380
in there would be the development

2489
01:53:01,380 --> 01:53:04,199
agreement as amended and authorized The

2490
01:53:04,199 --> 01:53:06,480
Village manager to execute the final

2491
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:07,739
version

2492
01:53:07,739 --> 01:53:11,030
so

2493
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,320
Mr Mayor has a question

2494
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,780
um he's like well

2495
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:18,000
we don't want we may not want two pizza

2496
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,280
places within the same thing I know

2497
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,619
we've got it where if it's a brewery

2498
01:53:22,619 --> 01:53:24,840
microbrewery they have to come and ask

2499
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:26,340
if there's more than one restaurant

2500
01:53:26,340 --> 01:53:28,080
serving alcohol more than one they have

2501
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,480
to come and ask and then also the

2502
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:32,100
Veterinary Clinic

2503
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:35,940
so are we good with just those or do we

2504
01:53:35,940 --> 01:53:38,520
want to say something like like

2505
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:40,920
like you know do we want two pizza

2506
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,800
places and in all honesty it's kind of

2507
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,239
it's kind of getting the chaplains

2508
01:53:45,239 --> 01:53:46,380
things then you're kind of being nip

2509
01:53:46,380 --> 01:53:49,020
like regulating you you're right you

2510
01:53:49,020 --> 01:53:50,580
only can regulate the use the use is

2511
01:53:50,580 --> 01:53:52,619
restaurant right right um You can't

2512
01:53:52,619 --> 01:53:54,320
necessarily then get into the to the

2513
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,600
menu and who it is

2514
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,060
um and from a market standpoint I mean

2515
01:54:00,060 --> 01:54:01,980
that's kind of if they have two tenants

2516
01:54:01,980 --> 01:54:03,119
that want to have a pizza place and

2517
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:13,629
think that they both can be competitive

2518
01:54:13,639 --> 01:54:16,619
where you'd never see uh you know that

2519
01:54:16,619 --> 01:54:19,800
they wouldn't allow it because they're

2520
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:21,420
entities like I said that's something

2521
01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:22,619
that they would probably have to have in

2522
01:54:22,619 --> 01:54:23,880
their own kind of type of lease

2523
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:24,840
agreement

2524
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:30,830
um we can't get into regulating

2525
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,580
they're not sure what they're going to

2526
01:54:32,580 --> 01:54:33,780
do with that

2527
01:54:33,780 --> 01:54:35,880
I think that would they be able to

2528
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,420
they'd still have the same opportunity

2529
01:54:39,420 --> 01:54:44,030
correct

2530
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:45,719
they would likely do that on the private

2531
01:54:45,719 --> 01:54:49,199
end to not have competitive tenants so

2532
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:50,940
they would be long-term tenants I would

2533
01:54:50,940 --> 01:54:58,970
assume

2534
01:54:58,980 --> 01:55:03,590
oh yeah

2535
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,100
yeah they want to put an ice cream store

2536
01:55:05,100 --> 01:55:08,100
in it but they the other group owners

2537
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:10,139
talked about an ice cream store it may

2538
01:55:10,139 --> 01:55:12,840
be first in wins or you know you just

2539
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:14,520
don't know yeah better getting it to win

2540
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:20,270
it

2541
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:25,189
all right any other questions

2542
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:28,320
so Austin has amended the um I will say

2543
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,719
before last name before the adoption is

2544
01:55:30,719 --> 01:55:32,940
the proposed land use land use

2545
01:55:32,940 --> 01:55:35,219
consistency and reasonable statement I

2546
01:55:35,219 --> 01:55:37,940
have provided you guys a draft of that

2547
01:55:37,940 --> 01:55:40,500
chaplain last question in my ordinance I

2548
01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:41,219
just

2549
01:55:41,219 --> 01:55:44,100
have them kind of adopting this they

2550
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:45,719
don't need I'm going to read it but they

2551
01:55:45,719 --> 01:55:47,340
don't need to have it in there they just

2552
01:55:47,340 --> 01:55:48,420
it just needs to be incorporated into

2553
01:55:48,420 --> 01:55:49,739
the minutes as part of their motion

2554
01:55:49,739 --> 01:55:52,080
correct correct they can incorporate it

2555
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,020
by reference okay has been propelled I

2556
01:55:55,020 --> 01:55:58,310
think to save meeting time

2557
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,780
um so I'm going to read this for you

2558
01:56:00,780 --> 01:56:01,500
guys

2559
01:56:01,500 --> 01:56:02,699
um The Village Council finds that the

2560
01:56:02,699 --> 01:56:05,100
proposed rezoning of 9908 Newtown Road

2561
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:07,500
further identified by parcel number zero

2562
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:11,580
six two two five zero zero nine a from

2563
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:13,679
our Marvin residential to the Marvin

2564
01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:15,360
Heritage District commercial only is

2565
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:16,560
consistent with the goals and

2566
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,179
recommendations of the village of Marvin

2567
01:56:18,179 --> 01:56:20,639
2020 land use plan and the Marvin

2568
01:56:20,639 --> 01:56:22,560
Heritage District small area plan

2569
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,900
the Marvin the village of Marvin 2020

2570
01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:26,820
land use plan designates this area as

2571
01:56:26,820 --> 01:56:28,980
the Marvin Heritage district and the

2572
01:56:28,980 --> 01:56:30,960
Marvin Heritage District a small area

2573
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:32,520
plan further designates the subject

2574
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,320
property to the Marvin Heritage District

2575
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,119
commercial only

2576
01:56:36,119 --> 01:56:38,100
the scale of development is consistent

2577
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:39,719
with the adopted plans furthermore this

2578
01:56:39,719 --> 01:56:41,219
development is consistent with the goals

2579
01:56:41,219 --> 01:56:43,199
and purpose of the plan by the following

2580
01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:44,880
cultivating a sense of community and

2581
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,980
creating a gathering place within the

2582
01:56:46,980 --> 01:56:48,900
Heritage District maintaining the rural

2583
01:56:48,900 --> 01:56:50,760
character and Heritage

2584
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:52,679
providing development adjacent to

2585
01:56:52,679 --> 01:56:53,940
existing neighbors that are compatible

2586
01:56:53,940 --> 01:56:55,260
in terms of intensity scale and

2587
01:56:55,260 --> 01:56:56,340
architecture

2588
01:56:56,340 --> 01:56:58,260
providing conservation land or fee and

2589
01:56:58,260 --> 01:57:00,000
Liu for future Greenway connections and

2590
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,860
additional pedestrian oriented amenities

2591
01:57:01,860 --> 01:57:04,380
creating a walkable compact core of a

2592
01:57:04,380 --> 01:57:05,699
neighborhood friendly commercial retail

2593
01:57:05,699 --> 01:57:08,100
and public use uses and spaces

2594
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:11,480
reuse of existing single-family dwelling

2595
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,500
architectural consistent with new and

2596
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,139
old development in the area maintaining

2597
01:57:16,139 --> 01:57:17,400
rural Aesthetics

2598
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,560
proposing and further incorporation of

2599
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,060
appropriate traffic calming strategies

2600
01:57:21,060 --> 01:57:23,040
and providing shared Parking Solutions

2601
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:24,719
slash options of future vehicular

2602
01:57:24,719 --> 01:57:26,639
connectivity within the district

2603
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:28,920
the proposed rezoning of 9908 Newtown

2604
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,800
Road from R Marvin to the Marvin

2605
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:33,239
Heritage District commercial only is

2606
01:57:33,239 --> 01:57:35,159
reasonable and and is in the public

2607
01:57:35,159 --> 01:57:36,719
interest because it promotes the goals

2608
01:57:36,719 --> 01:57:38,580
and recommendations of the adopted 2020

2609
01:57:38,580 --> 01:57:40,440
land use plan the Marvin Heritage

2610
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,719
District small area plan and any other

2611
01:57:42,719 --> 01:57:56,870
officially adopted plans

2612
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:03,729
there's a typo

2613
01:58:03,739 --> 01:58:06,080
nope

2614
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:10,199
I know we've we go to it for a vote um

2615
01:58:10,199 --> 01:58:15,060
you know I I want to assure that

2616
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:19,139
the audience that this we've looked at

2617
01:58:19,139 --> 01:58:22,500
this for numerous years before I was

2618
01:58:22,500 --> 01:58:25,080
even elected this has always been talked

2619
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,300
about a Heritage district and what could

2620
01:58:27,300 --> 01:58:28,980
be in this

2621
01:58:28,980 --> 01:58:30,380
District

2622
01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:34,980
it required probably a land use change

2623
01:58:34,980 --> 01:58:36,860
or plans that we did

2624
01:58:36,860 --> 01:58:41,520
it was vetted by planning board members

2625
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:46,560
and I think uh to the concern I and I

2626
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,239
I hear the concerns of some of the

2627
01:58:48,239 --> 01:58:50,099
residents that that abut to this

2628
01:58:50,099 --> 01:58:53,340
property but uh you know I gotta say I'm

2629
01:58:53,340 --> 01:58:55,440
I'm not I think the biggest concern I

2630
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,380
heard was safety

2631
01:58:57,380 --> 01:58:59,940
and I

2632
01:58:59,940 --> 01:59:02,460
I can't obviously nobody can promise

2633
01:59:02,460 --> 01:59:04,619
anything but if it's related to the

2634
01:59:04,619 --> 01:59:08,280
alcohol being served I I I'm trying to

2635
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,139
wrap my head around that when it comes

2636
01:59:10,139 --> 01:59:14,159
to how Firethorne has served alcohol and

2637
01:59:14,159 --> 01:59:17,760
food for numerous years and there are

2638
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:20,159
Pathways that lead to almost every home

2639
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:22,139
in that neighborhood and we haven't

2640
01:59:22,139 --> 01:59:25,020
experienced that so with with that said

2641
01:59:25,020 --> 01:59:27,599
we also talked about uh

2642
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:30,480
um you know the the changes that we what

2643
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,460
we would like to see happening here and

2644
01:59:32,460 --> 01:59:35,340
how that's going to work with you know

2645
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:37,980
we would encourage the walkability so I

2646
01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:40,760
know there was a traffic concern here

2647
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,080
one of the things that we learned when

2648
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:46,080
we did this is that it was walkable it

2649
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:48,659
was accessible not necessarily by

2650
01:59:48,659 --> 01:59:51,960
parking with cars which still in in my

2651
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,739
mind is a concern the parking and how we

2652
01:59:55,739 --> 01:59:57,780
address that

2653
01:59:57,780 --> 01:59:58,619
um

2654
01:59:58,619 --> 02:00:01,260
or how it gets addressed if you know and

2655
02:00:01,260 --> 02:00:04,139
hopefully it is if if this passes and it

2656
02:00:04,139 --> 02:00:06,420
goes through as a restaurant that it is

2657
02:00:06,420 --> 02:00:08,940
a successful restaurant but uh

2658
02:00:08,940 --> 02:00:10,619
um I

2659
02:00:10,619 --> 02:00:13,020
I even though I don't vote I I take this

2660
02:00:13,020 --> 02:00:15,599
this stuff very seriously and I I want

2661
02:00:15,599 --> 02:00:18,360
to assure that I've had conversations

2662
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,420
with I think almost every council member

2663
02:00:21,420 --> 02:00:24,300
here and you know we are aware of that

2664
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:25,560
and I think there's been a lot of

2665
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,719
thought put into this and

2666
02:00:27,719 --> 02:00:29,280
um if there's

2667
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,639
no other comments or thing I guess we're

2668
02:00:32,639 --> 02:00:37,010
ready for a vote right

2669
02:00:37,020 --> 02:00:39,420
okay I'm going to make a motion to adopt

2670
02:00:39,420 --> 02:00:42,840
an ordinance to rezone the 1.518 Acres

2671
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:47,099
located at 9908 Newtown Road from our

2672
02:00:47,099 --> 02:00:48,900
Marvin residential to the Marvin

2673
02:00:48,900 --> 02:00:51,360
Heritage District commercial only and

2674
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,280
adopt the following land use consistency

2675
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,099
and reasonableness statement that Hunter

2676
02:00:56,099 --> 02:00:59,159
just read and to approve the development

2677
02:00:59,159 --> 02:01:01,500
agreement as amended and authorize the

2678
02:01:01,500 --> 02:01:03,179
manager to execute the development

2679
02:01:03,179 --> 02:01:06,229
agreement

2680
02:01:06,239 --> 02:01:09,770
further discussion

2681
02:01:09,780 --> 02:01:11,520
all those in favor

2682
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:15,830
aye

2683
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:20,750
all right

2684
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,750
um

2685
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,800
thank you mayor

2686
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,480
I believe I'm going to sign out unless

2687
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,540
y'all need anything further from me

2688
02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:32,820
thank you all right good

2689
02:01:32,820 --> 02:01:35,040
meeting and a good long holiday weekend

2690
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:37,320
thank you you too thank

2691
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,080
you that's right

2692
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,940
all right next up we have discuss and

2693
02:01:41,940 --> 02:01:44,580
consider acceptance of the drainage and

2694
02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:48,179
30 study and 30 plans and consider

2695
02:01:48,179 --> 02:01:53,149
approval of change order

2696
02:01:53,159 --> 02:01:56,460
well thank you

2697
02:01:56,460 --> 02:01:58,980
change order up to 56 000 for 100

2698
02:01:58,980 --> 02:02:02,209
drawings

2699
02:02:02,219 --> 02:02:04,500
no

2700
02:02:04,500 --> 02:02:06,480
okay so the final study is in your

2701
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:07,860
agenda packets hopefully you've had a

2702
02:02:07,860 --> 02:02:09,239
chance to review it particularly

2703
02:02:09,239 --> 02:02:11,699
councilman Wortman because they

2704
02:02:11,699 --> 02:02:13,080
Incorporated the changes that you had

2705
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,300
requested so I want to make sure that's

2706
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:17,099
final and

2707
02:02:17,099 --> 02:02:18,900
we're ready to roll with what's

2708
02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:22,560
presented so I did put the final

2709
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,300
study in that you guys saw a couple

2710
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:25,980
months ago which is pretty much nothing

2711
02:02:25,980 --> 02:02:27,780
but a bunch of engineered drawn numbers

2712
02:02:27,780 --> 02:02:28,800
you probably don't know what you're

2713
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,139
looking at but it's in there

2714
02:02:31,139 --> 02:02:33,060
um and then the final design

2715
02:02:33,060 --> 02:02:35,940
is also in there also ask them to do

2716
02:02:35,940 --> 02:02:37,679
some schematics of what it would look

2717
02:02:37,679 --> 02:02:39,060
like so I don't know if you had a chance

2718
02:02:39,060 --> 02:02:41,639
to look at that but looks pretty

2719
02:02:41,639 --> 02:02:43,739
um pretty nice the Landscaping plan is

2720
02:02:43,739 --> 02:02:45,860
also included in there

2721
02:02:45,860 --> 02:02:48,179
if you recall when we initially went

2722
02:02:48,179 --> 02:02:50,760
into these conversations we

2723
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:52,560
had mentioned the Whole 30 percent

2724
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,360
numerous times and wasn't really quite

2725
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,040
sure what that meant initially so I had

2726
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,320
them clarify that basically we would be

2727
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,080
getting a portion of a final document so

2728
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:04,980
100 percent of the drawings or what was

2729
02:03:04,980 --> 02:03:06,780
what would be necessary to actually go

2730
02:03:06,780 --> 02:03:10,020
out for a proper bid would be that 100

2731
02:03:10,020 --> 02:03:11,099
percent

2732
02:03:11,099 --> 02:03:14,099
drawing and that would include all the

2733
02:03:14,099 --> 02:03:15,540
different specifications and everything

2734
02:03:15,540 --> 02:03:16,980
that's needed to have an engineered

2735
02:03:16,980 --> 02:03:19,619
stamp drawn sealed package to send it

2736
02:03:19,619 --> 02:03:21,960
out the door there may be an opportunity

2737
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,020
for us to find a contractor to do the

2738
02:03:25,020 --> 02:03:28,080
work as presented as close to

2739
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,599
as close to what we can see based on

2740
02:03:30,599 --> 02:03:32,880
that 30 plan here's the images I'm not

2741
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,280
sure if y'all saw that Christina one

2742
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:36,960
question real quick

2743
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,619
um just following up did did

2744
02:03:39,619 --> 02:03:45,239
we locate where the well is and no I did

2745
02:03:45,239 --> 02:03:47,340
ask them that question she said that it

2746
02:03:47,340 --> 02:03:48,960
would have to be something that they do

2747
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:51,119
in a survey

2748
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:54,540
um in the 100 so she okay so we're not

2749
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:56,639
sure if this pipe goes right through the

2750
02:03:56,639 --> 02:03:58,260
well or not

2751
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:00,659
so my question to you all is

2752
02:04:00,659 --> 02:04:03,320
um number one do you want to do the 100

2753
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,340
if so

2754
02:04:05,340 --> 02:04:08,040
uh it would we could either do a budget

2755
02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:09,480
amendment from fund balance we obviously

2756
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:10,920
don't have the money to do the 100

2757
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:12,540
drawings

2758
02:04:12,540 --> 02:04:14,340
um we could tie it into the park project

2759
02:04:14,340 --> 02:04:16,860
and pull it from that or we can try to

2760
02:04:16,860 --> 02:04:19,260
RFP with what we've got presented here

2761
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:21,719
however if we do that I want to make

2762
02:04:21,719 --> 02:04:24,060
sure that y'all fully understand that we

2763
02:04:24,060 --> 02:04:25,860
have to let have a level of discretion

2764
02:04:25,860 --> 02:04:27,900
of the contractor there has to be a

2765
02:04:27,900 --> 02:04:29,580
little bit of understanding that they

2766
02:04:29,580 --> 02:04:31,260
they might not do it exactly what you

2767
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:33,599
see here we can try as close to possible

2768
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:36,000
as getting that done but we would have

2769
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:37,560
to offer them the opportunity to use

2770
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,739
their discretion on some of the things

2771
02:04:39,739 --> 02:04:42,300
we won't be able to get specific on

2772
02:04:42,300 --> 02:04:45,860
grading or any of those expectations for

2773
02:04:45,860 --> 02:04:48,659
flattening the moat so to say

2774
02:04:48,659 --> 02:04:51,179
um we would have to just kind of

2775
02:04:51,179 --> 02:04:53,719
play that by year well they do have

2776
02:04:53,719 --> 02:04:56,940
specifics on elevation on this

2777
02:04:56,940 --> 02:04:59,360
so the grading

2778
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:03,900
elevations would be followed by by this

2779
02:05:03,900 --> 02:05:07,139
um I'm not I don't well I do know that

2780
02:05:07,139 --> 02:05:10,020
when I asked her about getting rid of

2781
02:05:10,020 --> 02:05:12,000
the moat that would have been part of

2782
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,400
the Topo because they didn't actually do

2783
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:16,500
exact Topo so I don't know if the

2784
02:05:16,500 --> 02:05:20,099
grading is exactly 100 accurate so it

2785
02:05:20,099 --> 02:05:22,139
very well could be I just don't want to

2786
02:05:22,139 --> 02:05:23,580
have the expectation that it's going to

2787
02:05:23,580 --> 02:05:25,500
be a you know a two percent grade or

2788
02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:29,870
whatever and it ends up being 3.5

2789
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:32,639
I mean I think that uh

2790
02:05:32,639 --> 02:05:36,540
there's enough information here if

2791
02:05:36,540 --> 02:05:39,840
if I was doing this project myself say I

2792
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,460
was bidding on this I think there's

2793
02:05:41,460 --> 02:05:43,260
enough information here to get a pretty

2794
02:05:43,260 --> 02:05:44,520
accurate

2795
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,080
um

2796
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,360
representation of what

2797
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,179
they're looking for here I mean this

2798
02:05:51,179 --> 02:05:53,699
isn't rocket science it's it's a

2799
02:05:53,699 --> 02:05:56,219
drainage pond with a drainage pipe and

2800
02:05:56,219 --> 02:05:59,280
re-grading to make it aesthetically

2801
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,860
pleasing and functional so

2802
02:06:01,860 --> 02:06:03,540
um

2803
02:06:03,540 --> 02:06:06,900
I mean I I think I would uh consider

2804
02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:09,719
doing the RFP and see what we get back

2805
02:06:09,719 --> 02:06:13,080
if we if we find that we don't have

2806
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:15,659
contractors or comfortable with doing it

2807
02:06:15,659 --> 02:06:17,940
at this level then we

2808
02:06:17,940 --> 02:06:20,520
consider the 100 plans

2809
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:22,199
but

2810
02:06:22,199 --> 02:06:24,780
that's just my opinion on it

2811
02:06:24,780 --> 02:06:26,880
and we can definitely do that just I

2812
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,099
want to kind of compare it to to Village

2813
02:06:29,099 --> 02:06:30,659
Hall and essentially like when we

2814
02:06:30,659 --> 02:06:32,580
created Village Hall we had a Sign

2815
02:06:32,580 --> 02:06:34,980
Sealed stamped architectural and

2816
02:06:34,980 --> 02:06:36,440
engineered drawn

2817
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,060
plan so this would essentially be like

2818
02:06:39,060 --> 02:06:39,900
us

2819
02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:42,780
building Village Hall giving only a

2820
02:06:42,780 --> 02:06:45,000
fraction of the plans to say hey this is

2821
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:46,080
what we're looking for use your

2822
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:47,940
discretion to do it and there very well

2823
02:06:47,940 --> 02:06:50,340
could be enough for a normal grading

2824
02:06:50,340 --> 02:06:51,719
contractor to do all this stuff I just

2825
02:06:51,719 --> 02:06:55,500
want to make sure y'all understand that

2826
02:06:55,500 --> 02:06:57,179
we can put it out see what kind of

2827
02:06:57,179 --> 02:06:59,099
results we get back and then if we don't

2828
02:06:59,099 --> 02:07:05,510
get anything we can go from there

2829
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:07,860
what do you think yeah

2830
02:07:07,860 --> 02:07:17,990
okay yeah

2831
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,040
so um

2832
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,920
we do there are specific most of the

2833
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:25,020
important features have specifics as far

2834
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:27,360
as the pipe location now it may not be

2835
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:29,520
exactly precisely where they've

2836
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,020
presented it because it's again it's not

2837
02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:35,219
100 survey drawn plans but they could

2838
02:07:35,219 --> 02:07:38,460
probably figure out roughly what what

2839
02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:39,719
should happen I mean it's probably

2840
02:07:39,719 --> 02:07:41,219
anything we do at this point is going to

2841
02:07:41,219 --> 02:07:41,940
help

2842
02:07:41,940 --> 02:07:44,719
so yeah it may not solve the problem 100

2843
02:07:44,719 --> 02:07:48,300
it may be uh 85 and we can address that

2844
02:07:48,300 --> 02:07:49,860
at that point so do we think that we

2845
02:07:49,860 --> 02:07:51,840
should do it now or wait until we find

2846
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:54,239
out if the okay I think that we should

2847
02:07:54,239 --> 02:07:56,639
move forward on a drainage plan for

2848
02:07:56,639 --> 02:07:59,639
Village Hall immediately the

2849
02:07:59,639 --> 02:08:00,659
um and

2850
02:08:00,659 --> 02:08:03,119
and if there is a shortcoming on the

2851
02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:04,080
drainage

2852
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:08,340
which I highly doubt given this plan but

2853
02:08:08,340 --> 02:08:11,699
if there is we can address it when we

2854
02:08:11,699 --> 02:08:14,400
develop the adjacent property with that

2855
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,679
drainage system

2856
02:08:16,679 --> 02:08:18,540
okay

2857
02:08:18,540 --> 02:08:21,060
Andy feels good about it

2858
02:08:21,060 --> 02:08:25,370
I'm good

2859
02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:28,739
well you don't get about it anyway Joe

2860
02:08:28,739 --> 02:08:29,940
um all right so I'm going to make a

2861
02:08:29,940 --> 02:08:32,340
motion to accept the drainage plans as

2862
02:08:32,340 --> 02:08:34,440
presented and direct staff to solicit

2863
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:38,239
rfps based on the limited 30 plan

2864
02:08:38,239 --> 02:08:41,460
and authorize a manager to execute the

2865
02:08:41,460 --> 02:08:44,580
oh no that's it

2866
02:08:44,580 --> 02:08:49,380
RFP based on the limited 30 plans period

2867
02:08:49,380 --> 02:08:51,480
further discussion

2868
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:53,099
all's in favor

2869
02:08:53,099 --> 02:08:55,560
aye the motion passes so I just want to

2870
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:56,940
remind you too this project wasn't

2871
02:08:56,940 --> 02:08:58,980
budgeted so when we get the rfps we'll

2872
02:08:58,980 --> 02:09:00,119
have to do a budget amendment on that

2873
02:09:00,119 --> 02:09:05,109
just let you know

2874
02:09:05,119 --> 02:09:08,099
I don't know I don't know if this is the

2875
02:09:08,099 --> 02:09:09,540
appropriate time to bring this up I was

2876
02:09:09,540 --> 02:09:12,060
just going to ask the the other issue

2877
02:09:12,060 --> 02:09:14,219
with leakage I

2878
02:09:14,219 --> 02:09:15,119
um

2879
02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:17,460
where are we at with that yeah that's a

2880
02:09:17,460 --> 02:09:18,780
good question we're still identifying

2881
02:09:18,780 --> 02:09:21,360
that Source we think that we have come

2882
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:22,880
to the conclusion that it's irrigation

2883
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,139
the drip line

2884
02:09:25,139 --> 02:09:27,239
but we are still trying to isolate it

2885
02:09:27,239 --> 02:09:29,340
we've had a leak person come out and

2886
02:09:29,340 --> 02:09:30,900
they told us they identified a leak

2887
02:09:30,900 --> 02:09:34,139
however when the contractor came out to

2888
02:09:34,139 --> 02:09:35,820
fix the leak when they dug it all up it

2889
02:09:35,820 --> 02:09:37,980
was not leaking we have had the

2890
02:09:37,980 --> 02:09:40,260
irrigation lines pressurized twice they

2891
02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:42,900
said that it wasn't the irrigation lines

2892
02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:45,780
um so we're waiting for a dry day so we

2893
02:09:45,780 --> 02:09:47,580
can kind of see if it's from the

2894
02:09:47,580 --> 02:09:49,619
irrigation which is what we think it is

2895
02:09:49,619 --> 02:09:52,560
or if it's groundwater so since they

2896
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:54,000
said it was a leak and they went in to

2897
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:55,920
fix the leak and they broke up all the

2898
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:58,679
concrete and there was no leak uh we

2899
02:09:58,679 --> 02:10:00,300
shouldn't have to pay for that and they

2900
02:10:00,300 --> 02:10:02,099
need to give us our money back and give

2901
02:10:02,099 --> 02:10:04,500
us some money to fix it so we had we've

2902
02:10:04,500 --> 02:10:06,420
been fighting them and unfortunately the

2903
02:10:06,420 --> 02:10:09,020
leak and the leak person so

2904
02:10:09,020 --> 02:10:11,460
Roto-Rooter was called Roto-Rooter came

2905
02:10:11,460 --> 02:10:13,380
out they said that they can't identify

2906
02:10:13,380 --> 02:10:15,780
where the leak is coming from they

2907
02:10:15,780 --> 02:10:17,520
recommended a vendor come out called

2908
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,820
leak Squad leak Squad came out they shut

2909
02:10:20,820 --> 02:10:22,619
the lines down they ran pressurized

2910
02:10:22,619 --> 02:10:25,260
tests they do use this audio device that

2911
02:10:25,260 --> 02:10:27,000
they put into the pipes to see where

2912
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:28,980
it's coming from or in the ground they

2913
02:10:28,980 --> 02:10:31,800
heard something in the area where they

2914
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:34,080
marked that it was a leak we think that

2915
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,239
what they heard was a frog

2916
02:10:36,239 --> 02:10:37,139
um

2917
02:10:37,139 --> 02:10:40,560
they yes

2918
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,679
which one of our experts you have to be

2919
02:10:43,679 --> 02:10:46,380
there to get the whole story Joe but yes

2920
02:10:46,380 --> 02:10:52,189
yeah so

2921
02:10:52,199 --> 02:10:54,179
they they marked it off they came in to

2922
02:10:54,179 --> 02:10:56,820
locate the city came or the utilities

2923
02:10:56,820 --> 02:11:00,300
came in did a locate on the gas line

2924
02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:02,280
um they came out the the crew

2925
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:04,320
Roto-Rooter then came back out they

2926
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:06,480
actually did what the contract said they

2927
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,000
were supposed to do excavate find the

2928
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:10,920
location where it was located and then

2929
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:12,900
make the repair so they were out here

2930
02:11:12,900 --> 02:11:14,940
for probably I don't know three hours

2931
02:11:14,940 --> 02:11:18,239
Excavating isolating the line getting

2932
02:11:18,239 --> 02:11:19,800
ready to do the repair so per the

2933
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:21,540
contract they really have done

2934
02:11:21,540 --> 02:11:22,860
everything they said they were going to

2935
02:11:22,860 --> 02:11:26,219
do except for the repair section we have

2936
02:11:26,219 --> 02:11:27,719
asked them to deduct that from the bill

2937
02:11:27,719 --> 02:11:30,300
which they have done I'm also still

2938
02:11:30,300 --> 02:11:31,679
trying to fight with the leaked person

2939
02:11:31,679 --> 02:11:33,300
to say basically that you came out here

2940
02:11:33,300 --> 02:11:35,040
and identified a leak and there was no

2941
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:37,679
leak so until we can fully discover that

2942
02:11:37,679 --> 02:11:40,139
there is truly no leak

2943
02:11:40,139 --> 02:11:42,179
we're kind of at a standstill right now

2944
02:11:42,179 --> 02:11:44,520
we've dug the hole still dug out which

2945
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,260
is why we've got it still open because

2946
02:11:46,260 --> 02:11:47,880
we want to make sure it's still in fact

2947
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:50,400
not a leak where they said it was

2948
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:51,480
um

2949
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:54,599
it's it's rained every single day since

2950
02:11:54,599 --> 02:11:56,940
uh since it's happened the whole dug up

2951
02:11:56,940 --> 02:11:59,639
did they go back and do that

2952
02:11:59,639 --> 02:12:01,619
audio thing and

2953
02:12:01,619 --> 02:12:03,239
because that's where they can determine

2954
02:12:03,239 --> 02:12:05,699
where no they haven't yeah okay because

2955
02:12:05,699 --> 02:12:07,440
I would recommend wouldn't that make

2956
02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:09,300
sense after it stuck up because if it's

2957
02:12:09,300 --> 02:12:11,340
saying it's there and they look and it's

2958
02:12:11,340 --> 02:12:13,619
it's clearly not there well it wasn't

2959
02:12:13,619 --> 02:12:15,480
there when when they were out when they

2960
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:16,980
actually excavated everything and to

2961
02:12:16,980 --> 02:12:18,540
isolate where this they said the leak

2962
02:12:18,540 --> 02:12:19,320
was

2963
02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:21,119
there was no there was nothing coming

2964
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:24,000
out we waited a couple of hours while

2965
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:25,619
they were here and left it open it

2966
02:12:25,619 --> 02:12:27,540
nothing happened they went shut off the

2967
02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:30,719
water shut it back on nothing changed we

2968
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:32,820
also left it there the entire day it

2969
02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:34,800
didn't fill back up it did fill back up

2970
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,619
the next day because it rained

2971
02:12:37,619 --> 02:12:39,060
um and we were going to keep it filled

2972
02:12:39,060 --> 02:12:41,040
up until it dried out we were gonna

2973
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:43,020
we were gonna keep it I'm sorry keep it

2974
02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:45,960
open until it dried out completely so we

2975
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:47,639
were able to turn the irrigation back on

2976
02:12:47,639 --> 02:12:50,280
to see if it actually filled back up

2977
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:52,260
but unfortunately it's rained every day

2978
02:12:52,260 --> 02:12:53,760
since then

2979
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:55,739
um what we third thing I want to add

2980
02:12:55,739 --> 02:12:58,380
just for clarification for Joe

2981
02:12:58,380 --> 02:13:00,900
one of the tests that they did was they

2982
02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:03,480
turned off the main valve in Christina's

2983
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:06,780
office for a 24-hour period and looked

2984
02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:08,940
at the at the meter there was no change

2985
02:13:08,940 --> 02:13:13,500
in the meter so there's no way there

2986
02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:16,440
could be a leak between that it's not on

2987
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,420
any of our main lines so it's not

2988
02:13:18,420 --> 02:13:21,119
underground and we did it again we did

2989
02:13:21,119 --> 02:13:23,760
it we did that twice they did it twice

2990
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:25,980
result there's no water escaping

2991
02:13:25,980 --> 02:13:28,440
anywhere so therefore I feel very

2992
02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:30,119
confident in the fact that there's no

2993
02:13:30,119 --> 02:13:33,179
leak between the building and the meter

2994
02:13:33,179 --> 02:13:35,579
at the road with the fact that we've had

2995
02:13:35,579 --> 02:13:38,520
rain and with what we just discussed

2996
02:13:38,520 --> 02:13:40,320
is it drainage

2997
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:44,099
is it the foundation it works

2998
02:13:44,099 --> 02:13:46,679
I feel like and and this is why we're

2999
02:13:46,679 --> 02:13:49,079
back at the irrigation because what

3000
02:13:49,079 --> 02:13:51,119
we've found is the irrigation box stays

3001
02:13:51,119 --> 02:13:53,159
full of water the valve box that's by

3002
02:13:53,159 --> 02:13:55,440
beside the side and it's off of a well

3003
02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,199
correct it's off the well yes but it

3004
02:13:58,199 --> 02:14:00,599
comes around but right where I'm getting

3005
02:14:00,599 --> 02:14:02,159
at it is is there were several

3006
02:14:02,159 --> 02:14:04,800
underground uh passages under the

3007
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:06,719
sidewalk and such for the irrigation

3008
02:14:06,719 --> 02:14:09,420
that would have the water if it's

3009
02:14:09,420 --> 02:14:11,520
leaking in that valve box and filling

3010
02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:13,619
that valve box there's opportunity for

3011
02:14:13,619 --> 02:14:17,460
it to run underground and and come to

3012
02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:20,760
that point so the reason

3013
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,179
we feel like it is the valve box has is

3014
02:14:24,179 --> 02:14:25,980
is leaking water in there as the other

3015
02:14:25,980 --> 02:14:27,900
valve boxes on the property are dry

3016
02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:29,820
that's the only one that seems to be

3017
02:14:29,820 --> 02:14:33,119
consistently full of water so

3018
02:14:33,119 --> 02:14:37,079
I'm not seeing 100 percent there could

3019
02:14:37,079 --> 02:14:39,540
be some other source but we want to rule

3020
02:14:39,540 --> 02:14:42,179
that out because that's the next most

3021
02:14:42,179 --> 02:14:44,880
likely Source if that is not in in fact

3022
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:48,300
the source of water then there is

3023
02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:50,400
something that

3024
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,119
is either groundwater like a

3025
02:14:54,119 --> 02:14:57,119
spring under here somewhere or something

3026
02:14:57,119 --> 02:15:02,219
that was missed in the soils

3027
02:15:02,219 --> 02:15:05,219
preparation which they did a lot of

3028
02:15:05,219 --> 02:15:09,179
undercut and replacement of soil on this

3029
02:15:09,179 --> 02:15:10,619
property before this building was built

3030
02:15:10,619 --> 02:15:12,599
because of the if you remember I'm not

3031
02:15:12,599 --> 02:15:13,920
sure if y'all remember this but there

3032
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:15,599
was a whale that was on the property

3033
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:17,040
that

3034
02:15:17,040 --> 02:15:19,380
they had closed that they had identified

3035
02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:21,780
in construction from my understanding it

3036
02:15:21,780 --> 02:15:23,639
was closed off everything was done like

3037
02:15:23,639 --> 02:15:25,380
it was supposed to

3038
02:15:25,380 --> 02:15:28,380
um so I don't know it's well it's

3039
02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:30,060
actually not even on our property the

3040
02:15:30,060 --> 02:15:32,460
well that was identified was is on

3041
02:15:32,460 --> 02:15:34,560
Robbie's property it's that little box

3042
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:37,320
over there then subsequently we found

3043
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:38,820
another well

3044
02:15:38,820 --> 02:15:41,760
which is way up by the road when they

3045
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:46,020
cleared that has been capped so there

3046
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:48,540
those are the two Well locations that we

3047
02:15:48,540 --> 02:15:53,219
are aware of now I do know that prior to

3048
02:15:53,219 --> 02:15:55,079
construction when we walked this area

3049
02:15:55,079 --> 02:15:58,440
there was a lot of water that sat in

3050
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:02,400
this area here that we assumed was

3051
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,159
coming from the drainage from the ditch

3052
02:16:05,159 --> 02:16:08,579
now I'm not going to rule this out

3053
02:16:08,579 --> 02:16:10,079
that

3054
02:16:10,079 --> 02:16:13,099
it could possibly even be underground

3055
02:16:13,099 --> 02:16:17,699
from that and if we do our this this

3056
02:16:17,699 --> 02:16:19,739
re-grading for the drainage and all that

3057
02:16:19,739 --> 02:16:20,460
stuff

3058
02:16:20,460 --> 02:16:22,639
address that may address it as well so

3059
02:16:22,639 --> 02:16:24,719
there's there's

3060
02:16:24,719 --> 02:16:27,780
a couple of things I'd like to see and

3061
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:30,540
I'd like to at least

3062
02:16:30,540 --> 02:16:33,120
make sure that it's not the irrigation

3063
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:36,000
100 before we just look into others the

3064
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:37,679
next steps that we have to address it

3065
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:40,500
are to one get a couple good hot warm

3066
02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:42,300
days where it's not going to rain

3067
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:44,399
keep the irrigation on as we have it now

3068
02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:47,580
see if it fills back up if it does we'll

3069
02:16:47,580 --> 02:16:49,620
shut it off see if it goes away and if

3070
02:16:49,620 --> 02:16:51,840
it does that tells us it's irrigation if

3071
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:53,040
it doesn't

3072
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:55,019
then we got another problem that we've

3073
02:16:55,019 --> 02:16:57,059
got to figure out I.E either groundwater

3074
02:16:57,059 --> 02:16:59,939
or something in this oil or or this over

3075
02:16:59,939 --> 02:17:03,840
here right okay so okay it's going to be

3076
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,160
a process let's just put it that way

3077
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:06,359
it's not going to happen overnight

3078
02:17:06,359 --> 02:17:08,399
unfortunately

3079
02:17:08,399 --> 02:17:10,200
but we are going to have to do

3080
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:12,240
the repair on the concrete over here so

3081
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:14,040
at some point we'll figure all that out

3082
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:15,960
we're not going to even touch it until

3083
02:17:15,960 --> 02:17:17,639
we figure out what what's going on with

3084
02:17:17,639 --> 02:17:19,620
it but we will continue to fight to not

3085
02:17:19,620 --> 02:17:21,540
pay those bills Unfortunately they did

3086
02:17:21,540 --> 02:17:24,240
do most of the work to try to get to the

3087
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:33,709
area that was identified

3088
02:17:33,719 --> 02:17:38,450
do we have any action on

3089
02:17:38,460 --> 02:17:41,340
all right so next next up we have a

3090
02:17:41,340 --> 02:17:44,639
review council meeting minutes

3091
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:47,399
I work very fast I work very fast so

3092
02:17:47,399 --> 02:17:48,780
your minutes from yesterday are also

3093
02:17:48,780 --> 02:17:52,849
included I saw myself thank you

3094
02:17:52,859 --> 02:17:55,500
no issues no issues

3095
02:17:55,500 --> 02:17:57,479
I will note that lunch is here by the

3096
02:17:57,479 --> 02:18:00,000
way so you guys decide whenever you want

3097
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:01,620
to break for that

3098
02:18:01,620 --> 02:18:04,080
work

3099
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:06,599
okay so we'll need a motion to you don't

3100
02:18:06,599 --> 02:18:08,160
need a motion oh you're Distributing

3101
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:13,990
right now sorry

3102
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,559
all right next up we have a consumer

3103
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:18,960
call for a public hearing discussion

3104
02:18:18,960 --> 02:18:21,300
and consideration especially use permit

3105
02:18:21,300 --> 02:18:23,120
application SUV

3106
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,679
2023-3 for a pool to be located outside

3107
02:18:25,679 --> 02:18:28,810
the setbacks for

3108
02:18:28,820 --> 02:18:33,780
151.054 E located at 206 Claridge court

3109
02:18:33,780 --> 02:18:36,719
so moved all's in favor

3110
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:38,939
aye motion passes

3111
02:18:38,939 --> 02:18:40,920
poor Hunter

3112
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:42,599
all I was going to say is it might not

3113
02:18:42,599 --> 02:18:43,920
be needed I'm going to confirm with the

3114
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:46,620
applicant today so how does that work if

3115
02:18:46,620 --> 02:18:51,049
they don't need it

3116
02:18:51,059 --> 02:18:52,859
all right let's go get lunch we're

3117
02:18:52,859 --> 02:18:54,660
getting lunch and then we'll reconvene

3118
02:18:54,660 --> 02:18:56,460
now we'll take a quick break motion Paul

3119
02:18:56,460 --> 02:18:58,380
is in favor for a quick break

3120
02:18:58,380 --> 02:19:01,849
aye aye

3121
02:19:01,859 --> 02:26:53,450
I need you to decide

3122
02:26:53,460 --> 02:27:15,730
foreign

3123
02:27:15,740 --> 02:27:19,260
I got it and I figured somebody needs to

3124
02:27:19,260 --> 02:27:20,240
go

3125
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:23,040
most like

3126
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:26,640
we really need to support them I agree

3127
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:32,939
I'll go 17. it's no the 19th

3128
02:27:32,939 --> 02:27:35,399
the Tuesday the 19th

3129
02:27:35,399 --> 02:27:38,520
I'm leaving the 17th that's right

3130
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:40,080
I can't go because I've got a dentist

3131
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:41,700
appointment

3132
02:27:41,700 --> 02:27:44,990
but

3133
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:49,500
the 19th of September it's a Tuesday I

3134
02:27:49,500 --> 02:27:51,479
can change I can change my dentist

3135
02:27:51,479 --> 02:27:52,620
appointment

3136
02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:55,020
but if we've got okay Jamie will go

3137
02:27:55,020 --> 02:27:58,439
Christina's going it's at the AG Center

3138
02:27:58,439 --> 02:28:01,979
so I encourage you guys to but we have

3139
02:28:01,979 --> 02:28:04,740
to RSVP and they're filling up I think

3140
02:28:04,740 --> 02:28:09,170
we have to okay okay

3141
02:28:09,180 --> 02:28:11,220
I was going to have Austin send her an

3142
02:28:11,220 --> 02:28:13,610
email

3143
02:28:13,620 --> 02:28:16,500
awesome your new send or email who's in

3144
02:28:16,500 --> 02:28:21,050
Christina and Jamie I have to work okay

3145
02:28:21,060 --> 02:28:23,340
well pay attention

3146
02:28:23,340 --> 02:28:26,340
it's the Union County it's the Union

3147
02:28:26,340 --> 02:28:28,680
County leadership

3148
02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:30,479
conference and we just got another email

3149
02:28:30,479 --> 02:28:32,220
saying that they were filling up and so

3150
02:28:32,220 --> 02:28:34,620
please RSVP I think by tomorrow

3151
02:28:34,620 --> 02:28:36,300
Jamie's going Jamie and Christine are

3152
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:37,140
going

3153
02:28:37,140 --> 02:28:39,540
Bob Andy either yeah

3154
02:28:39,540 --> 02:28:43,849
okay I have to work okay

3155
02:28:43,859 --> 02:28:47,270
all right

3156
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:50,640
Austin Canoe RSVP late today

3157
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:59,030
thank you

3158
02:28:59,040 --> 02:29:01,800
I'll take this she's she's sick this is

3159
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:03,000
just something that the county needs

3160
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:04,800
this is our tax settlement for the year

3161
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:06,840
not the fiscal year but the

3162
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:10,370
the calendar year

3163
02:29:10,380 --> 02:29:12,120
they just have to have you all approve

3164
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:13,380
this

3165
02:29:13,380 --> 02:29:15,600
so

3166
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:19,190
hopefully there's no questions

3167
02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:22,200
the tax collection settlement

3168
02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:26,530
this is what they collected

3169
02:29:26,540 --> 02:29:31,819
3.74 I'm sorry 1 million

3170
02:29:31,819 --> 02:29:43,969
374 000.

3171
02:29:43,979 --> 02:29:46,260
I think she just needs y'all to approve

3172
02:29:46,260 --> 02:30:10,490
it

3173
02:30:10,500 --> 02:30:14,809
all right

3174
02:30:14,819 --> 02:30:16,620
um Laura

3175
02:30:16,620 --> 02:30:23,450
foreign

3176
02:30:23,460 --> 02:31:13,070
to that

3177
02:31:13,080 --> 02:31:15,540
we do pay in advance

3178
02:31:15,540 --> 02:31:16,920
there's

3179
02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:19,260
about six months it's not completely a

3180
02:31:19,260 --> 02:31:22,550
whole year in advance but it's

3181
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:24,300
yeah I don't know the exact month but

3182
02:31:24,300 --> 02:31:25,740
it's not

3183
02:31:25,740 --> 02:31:28,680
so we get the

3184
02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:31,020
we start collecting taxes around

3185
02:31:31,020 --> 02:31:33,920
November Feb November December January

3186
02:31:33,920 --> 02:31:36,359
we have already floated

3187
02:31:36,359 --> 02:31:40,140
the cost of that from July 1st over

3188
02:31:40,140 --> 02:31:51,349
so yes we do

3189
02:31:51,359 --> 02:31:57,790
it

3190
02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:01,460
in July or whatever

3191
02:32:01,460 --> 02:32:11,210
taxes are what September

3192
02:32:11,220 --> 02:32:13,439
it's because our fiscal year starts July

3193
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:18,250
1st

3194
02:32:18,260 --> 02:32:20,280
I mean we can do that but it would

3195
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:24,469
require us

3196
02:32:24,479 --> 02:32:26,100
but it would it would require us to

3197
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:28,260
change in the middle of our we we do the

3198
02:32:28,260 --> 02:32:30,180
projections based on a budget year so

3199
02:32:30,180 --> 02:32:32,280
that would basically essentially mean if

3200
02:32:32,280 --> 02:32:34,140
they're doing it by calendar year we

3201
02:32:34,140 --> 02:32:36,960
would have to change mid mid budget

3202
02:32:36,960 --> 02:32:38,040
you know what I'm saying like if they

3203
02:32:38,040 --> 02:32:40,740
give us a rate from January to December

3204
02:32:40,740 --> 02:32:42,899
we wouldn't have set that into our

3205
02:32:42,899 --> 02:32:45,120
budget for the next for the appropriate

3206
02:32:45,120 --> 02:32:46,979
year so if they like for example if they

3207
02:32:46,979 --> 02:32:49,319
say it's going to cost you 300 a

3208
02:32:49,319 --> 02:32:51,960
household from January to December our

3209
02:32:51,960 --> 02:32:54,840
fiscal year comes into play in July so

3210
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:56,819
we will have had to have known

3211
02:32:56,819 --> 02:32:58,500
for the next year in order to project

3212
02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:00,479
the rates out accurately because we

3213
02:33:00,479 --> 02:33:15,050
can't change the rates mid-year

3214
02:33:15,060 --> 02:33:20,770
um

3215
02:33:20,780 --> 02:33:23,040
I don't know if she prepared one but you

3216
02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:25,620
just needed you need a motion to accept

3217
02:33:25,620 --> 02:33:33,770
okay

3218
02:33:33,780 --> 02:33:34,979
all right so I'm going to make a motion

3219
02:33:34,979 --> 02:33:36,120
to approve and authorize the Union

3220
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:37,859
County Tax Collector to Levy and collect

3221
02:33:37,859 --> 02:33:40,380
Village of Marvin taxes for 23-24 fiscal

3222
02:33:40,380 --> 02:33:41,220
year

3223
02:33:41,220 --> 02:33:44,230
all in favor

3224
02:33:44,240 --> 02:33:47,340
how easy was that

3225
02:33:47,340 --> 02:33:48,479
um

3226
02:33:48,479 --> 02:33:51,660
next up discussion in 2024 Marvin day

3227
02:33:51,660 --> 02:33:55,500
sponsorship Drive okay so this is me

3228
02:33:55,500 --> 02:33:57,660
so being on the Marvin Day committee

3229
02:33:57,660 --> 02:33:59,040
again this year

3230
02:33:59,040 --> 02:34:00,780
we are

3231
02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:03,240
not going to have because we're trying

3232
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:05,520
to condense the day have it in one

3233
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:06,660
location

3234
02:34:06,660 --> 02:34:10,979
we are not going to have Council sit on

3235
02:34:10,979 --> 02:34:13,260
different working groups

3236
02:34:13,260 --> 02:34:15,780
so we're going to have extra meetings

3237
02:34:15,780 --> 02:34:17,640
you're not going to have

3238
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:21,000
extra tasks the one thing that we ask

3239
02:34:21,000 --> 02:34:24,180
you to do is go get sponsors now I know

3240
02:34:24,180 --> 02:34:25,920
it is hard for some of us to go and ask

3241
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:28,800
people for money but the worst they can

3242
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:30,540
say is no and then you say okay thank

3243
02:34:30,540 --> 02:34:32,100
you very much and you go on to the next

3244
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:33,240
person

3245
02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:35,520
we have people that really get out and

3246
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:38,280
do it we have people that don't so

3247
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:40,319
that is what we are asking you to do for

3248
02:34:40,319 --> 02:34:42,660
Marvin Bay I'm not asking to get the

3249
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:45,180
dunk tank again this year I'm not asking

3250
02:34:45,180 --> 02:34:47,100
you to be on a working group I'm asking

3251
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:50,880
you to go get money so can we all

3252
02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:52,380
agree

3253
02:34:52,380 --> 02:34:56,399
that when we come back out

3254
02:34:56,399 --> 02:34:58,319
I would say our next meeting

3255
02:34:58,319 --> 02:34:59,819
we will have the list of previous

3256
02:34:59,819 --> 02:35:01,560
sponsors

3257
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:04,140
people that have donated money who

3258
02:35:04,140 --> 02:35:06,840
haven't who we've reached out to who we

3259
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:08,580
should be reaching out to

3260
02:35:08,580 --> 02:35:11,100
and we're going to divvy that up

3261
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:13,319
and I need everybody's commitment that

3262
02:35:13,319 --> 02:35:15,540
they will go out and get money

3263
02:35:15,540 --> 02:35:19,250
or try to yeah

3264
02:35:19,260 --> 02:35:21,800
I think the only thing that we would

3265
02:35:21,800 --> 02:35:23,819
want to know

3266
02:35:23,819 --> 02:35:27,540
is with all the adjustments and changes

3267
02:35:27,540 --> 02:35:30,960
to your point being one location just to

3268
02:35:30,960 --> 02:35:33,600
know what we are able to present in

3269
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:35,880
other words how how has it changed from

3270
02:35:35,880 --> 02:35:37,280
last year

3271
02:35:37,280 --> 02:35:39,960
how we're anticipating it to be more

3272
02:35:39,960 --> 02:35:41,880
successful

3273
02:35:41,880 --> 02:35:44,939
um that sort of thing you know just we

3274
02:35:44,939 --> 02:35:47,280
know what we're presenting that's all

3275
02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:49,620
Austin I need you back in there I have a

3276
02:35:49,620 --> 02:35:55,910
question for you

3277
02:35:55,920 --> 02:35:57,420
are we

3278
02:35:57,420 --> 02:36:00,349
still

3279
02:36:00,359 --> 02:36:02,340
convinced that you for Park is the

3280
02:36:02,340 --> 02:36:05,990
location

3281
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:08,100
we've moved on we're past this point we

3282
02:36:08,100 --> 02:36:11,880
booked the band the location

3283
02:36:11,880 --> 02:36:13,979
the man is for the location the ship has

3284
02:36:13,979 --> 02:36:15,060
hailed

3285
02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:17,939
no yep the location

3286
02:36:17,939 --> 02:36:21,060
well only thing the only thing

3287
02:36:21,060 --> 02:36:23,280
we have a hundred percent control of the

3288
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:26,760
location with ephra Park

3289
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:29,280
if we want to continue to move if we

3290
02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:31,740
want to continue to move forward

3291
02:36:31,740 --> 02:36:34,800
which which we are we have 100 control

3292
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,260
of V for part we have

3293
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:40,140
we are always going to run up against

3294
02:36:40,140 --> 02:36:43,859
what we can't do with other locations

3295
02:36:43,859 --> 02:36:48,180
now can we augment eford Park I I

3296
02:36:48,180 --> 02:36:50,580
believe so if we get bigger and things

3297
02:36:50,580 --> 02:36:53,040
happen where we can ask for maybe the

3298
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:55,620
high school parking lot to do a car show

3299
02:36:55,620 --> 02:36:59,280
to do uh I don't know some kind of some

3300
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:01,260
type of event

3301
02:37:01,260 --> 02:37:03,660
but as long as we're

3302
02:37:03,660 --> 02:37:07,080
asking for locations and being told what

3303
02:37:07,080 --> 02:37:09,960
we can and can't do it's it's difficult

3304
02:37:09,960 --> 02:37:12,000
but well

3305
02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:14,160
the reason I said

3306
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:16,680
I've had a quick conversation with the

3307
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:18,000
principal

3308
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:20,100
who

3309
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:22,620
told me it was beyond him but

3310
02:37:22,620 --> 02:37:24,479
I believe he came to you Hunter

3311
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:27,610
regarding

3312
02:37:27,620 --> 02:37:29,340
sorry

3313
02:37:29,340 --> 02:37:32,760
he came to you about running a space for

3314
02:37:32,760 --> 02:37:35,040
the teachers before school started was

3315
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:36,720
he

3316
02:37:36,720 --> 02:37:39,300
the principal

3317
02:37:39,300 --> 02:37:48,410
that would do okay

3318
02:37:48,420 --> 02:37:52,439
wow the ptso the ptso for Marvin High

3319
02:37:52,439 --> 02:37:54,240
School came to the village and wanted to

3320
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:56,100
rip the park before school for a

3321
02:37:56,100 --> 02:37:58,620
breakfast right okay that's what that's

3322
02:37:58,620 --> 02:38:01,020
what you're asking yeah because he he

3323
02:38:01,020 --> 02:38:02,760
asked he reached out to me first because

3324
02:38:02,760 --> 02:38:04,500
he was looking for a venue

3325
02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:06,420
I said well call the park because I I

3326
02:38:06,420 --> 02:38:08,100
don't get involved in

3327
02:38:08,100 --> 02:38:09,359
fact you gotta see if it's even

3328
02:38:09,359 --> 02:38:12,840
available he had a specific day

3329
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:14,700
I assume he did that then I found that

3330
02:38:14,700 --> 02:38:16,380
later that

3331
02:38:16,380 --> 02:38:18,780
what I was talking about why can't we

3332
02:38:18,780 --> 02:38:19,979
get

3333
02:38:19,979 --> 02:38:22,200
the high school in perpetuity to perform

3334
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:26,040
I mean to have that as the event

3335
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:27,420
just asking

3336
02:38:27,420 --> 02:38:29,880
I said well that's

3337
02:38:29,880 --> 02:38:32,160
Beyond him but they did work out

3338
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:34,140
something where

3339
02:38:34,140 --> 02:38:37,140
they were going to provide parking

3340
02:38:37,140 --> 02:38:40,140
in exchange for what we is that what it

3341
02:38:40,140 --> 02:38:44,809
came out today

3342
02:38:44,819 --> 02:38:47,510
okay

3343
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:49,500
I'm just saying that potentially opens

3344
02:38:49,500 --> 02:38:51,720
the door to

3345
02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:54,720
carrying a location even if it's well

3346
02:38:54,720 --> 02:38:57,349
before

3347
02:38:57,359 --> 02:38:59,460
events are being held there I think it

3348
02:38:59,460 --> 02:39:01,439
just it makes sense to explore that

3349
02:39:01,439 --> 02:39:03,540
because I think one of the biggest

3350
02:39:03,540 --> 02:39:06,780
things I'm sorry but it's just that that

3351
02:39:06,780 --> 02:39:09,120
having to park somewhere and be driven

3352
02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:12,060
over there was a real

3353
02:39:12,060 --> 02:39:14,700
factor in the attendance

3354
02:39:14,700 --> 02:39:17,880
well Joe I have to tell you that every

3355
02:39:17,880 --> 02:39:20,280
other municipality in this area does the

3356
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:21,540
same thing

3357
02:39:21,540 --> 02:39:24,060
because parking is a problem for

3358
02:39:24,060 --> 02:39:26,040
everybody

3359
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:28,920
well but we have an answer just because

3360
02:39:28,920 --> 02:39:30,780
they do the same thing doesn't mean we

3361
02:39:30,780 --> 02:39:33,240
have to fall soon

3362
02:39:33,240 --> 02:39:35,280
but we don't have an answer because the

3363
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:37,560
high school won't let us use it that's

3364
02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:41,040
see you're you're just assuming that's

3365
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:44,460
that is final discussion we've not have

3366
02:39:44,460 --> 02:39:46,439
you reached that to the

3367
02:39:46,439 --> 02:39:48,180
um the guy that's over all the

3368
02:39:48,180 --> 02:39:50,460
principles the superintendent has anyone

3369
02:39:50,460 --> 02:39:52,620
talked to

3370
02:39:52,620 --> 02:39:55,620
answer is no and he's the guy that

3371
02:39:55,620 --> 02:39:58,140
decides that that's all I'm saying is

3372
02:39:58,140 --> 02:39:59,780
have that conversation for the future

3373
02:39:59,780 --> 02:40:04,800
why not I mean all they can do is say no

3374
02:40:04,800 --> 02:40:06,600
that's all I'm saying

3375
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:09,479
but I don't want it at the high school I

3376
02:40:09,479 --> 02:40:10,859
want it at the park because it's our

3377
02:40:10,859 --> 02:40:12,540
park we ought to be able to show off our

3378
02:40:12,540 --> 02:40:16,200
Park that's my that's my opinion

3379
02:40:16,200 --> 02:40:18,960
but I'm saying it's just

3380
02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:20,640
the attendance from the first year to

3381
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:23,220
the second was way dropped off

3382
02:40:23,220 --> 02:40:25,020
what reasons

3383
02:40:25,020 --> 02:40:27,540
maybe it was multiple parking locations

3384
02:40:27,540 --> 02:40:29,399
Maybe

3385
02:40:29,399 --> 02:40:30,780
I'm

3386
02:40:30,780 --> 02:40:32,819
just stating a fact

3387
02:40:32,819 --> 02:40:35,939
and yes I assume it'll grow each time

3388
02:40:35,939 --> 02:40:38,840
and hopefully we get to that point where

3389
02:40:38,840 --> 02:40:41,819
the one parking location

3390
02:40:41,819 --> 02:40:45,000
multiple buses and it's not as big an

3391
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:48,849
issue but

3392
02:40:48,859 --> 02:40:51,720
all right well this is not on the agenda

3393
02:40:51,720 --> 02:40:53,520
to discuss I know but it's Marvin day

3394
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:56,220
sponsorship Drive sponsorship yeah but

3395
02:40:56,220 --> 02:40:59,399
not but but it leads into that because

3396
02:40:59,399 --> 02:41:01,200
here's why

3397
02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:04,740
if if you don't have people

3398
02:41:04,740 --> 02:41:07,920
oh wait

3399
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:10,080
if you don't have people

3400
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:13,319
showing up for the event the sponsor is

3401
02:41:13,319 --> 02:41:15,660
not going to step up because I've

3402
02:41:15,660 --> 02:41:17,580
already heard from

3403
02:41:17,580 --> 02:41:20,100
one that I have used that is like well

3404
02:41:20,100 --> 02:41:22,080
we didn't get any leads from that well

3405
02:41:22,080 --> 02:41:24,840
maybe we'll have a better situation I

3406
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:26,780
haven't talked to him since

3407
02:41:26,780 --> 02:41:30,840
sorry they generated but I'd be curious

3408
02:41:30,840 --> 02:41:33,780
to see all the ones that I procured as

3409
02:41:33,780 --> 02:41:36,359
far as sponsors how well they did how

3410
02:41:36,359 --> 02:41:40,010
many leads I mean

3411
02:41:40,020 --> 02:41:42,240
I've talked to I've talked to two

3412
02:41:42,240 --> 02:41:44,460
out of the ones I got just to see you

3413
02:41:44,460 --> 02:41:46,560
know because we I mean we really haven't

3414
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:48,060
uh

3415
02:41:48,060 --> 02:41:49,859
brought this up as far as sponsorship

3416
02:41:49,859 --> 02:41:52,740
but it's just a note if

3417
02:41:52,740 --> 02:41:54,479
are they going to put money towards just

3418
02:41:54,479 --> 02:41:57,060
like I would predict

3419
02:41:57,060 --> 02:41:59,819
um good luck adding uh the Lobster Truck

3420
02:41:59,819 --> 02:42:02,760
to show up oh we got them secured you do

3421
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:05,399
yep don't you worry about it all right

3422
02:42:05,399 --> 02:42:08,580
I'll look forward to having them there

3423
02:42:08,580 --> 02:42:11,570
but

3424
02:42:11,580 --> 02:42:14,100
okay so I'm gonna assign you a job then

3425
02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:16,979
buddy to sign in perfect call the

3426
02:42:16,979 --> 02:42:19,020
superintendent okay

3427
02:42:19,020 --> 02:42:21,120
all I wanted permission for there you go

3428
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:23,340
because I will make that phone call and

3429
02:42:23,340 --> 02:42:25,380
see if I can have that and if he's open

3430
02:42:25,380 --> 02:42:27,720
to it would you consider changing the

3431
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:30,240
venue to have it all day there

3432
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:33,060
no I'm just saying have the

3433
02:42:33,060 --> 02:42:38,570
concert there

3434
02:42:38,580 --> 02:42:39,960
I have everything else at the park at

3435
02:42:39,960 --> 02:42:41,399
the park so you still have two locations

3436
02:42:41,399 --> 02:42:44,399
you do and there's you know the only

3437
02:42:44,399 --> 02:42:47,160
thing you had multiple locations you had

3438
02:42:47,160 --> 02:42:48,960
a place where they ran in the morning

3439
02:42:48,960 --> 02:42:51,120
and then the first year and then the

3440
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:52,859
place where they

3441
02:42:52,859 --> 02:42:53,520
um

3442
02:42:53,520 --> 02:42:57,240
did the car show which led into there

3443
02:42:57,240 --> 02:42:58,319
was raining

3444
02:42:58,319 --> 02:43:00,660
um I'll just mention real quick too the

3445
02:43:00,660 --> 02:43:02,040
fireworks if we're going to keep the

3446
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:05,220
fireworks the place that let us do it

3447
02:43:05,220 --> 02:43:06,960
the year we were at the high school they

3448
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:09,420
did call us last year we hadn't reached

3449
02:43:09,420 --> 02:43:10,620
out to them but they did call us and

3450
02:43:10,620 --> 02:43:12,000
said they weren't interested in doing it

3451
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:14,100
last year so

3452
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:16,439
I think that would probably be a problem

3453
02:43:16,439 --> 02:43:20,150
if we

3454
02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:22,319
yeah I don't know

3455
02:43:22,319 --> 02:43:25,020
so just putting that out there okay

3456
02:43:25,020 --> 02:43:27,420
Then I then I won't reach out because I

3457
02:43:27,420 --> 02:43:29,220
just thought the way that all was done

3458
02:43:29,220 --> 02:43:31,560
and fireworks went off after we I

3459
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:33,180
thought we were in better graces with

3460
02:43:33,180 --> 02:43:35,340
them maybe not that's fine

3461
02:43:35,340 --> 02:43:36,899
you know I don't think it's anything we

3462
02:43:36,899 --> 02:43:38,939
did I just for some reason they just I I

3463
02:43:38,939 --> 02:43:40,020
think it had something to do with

3464
02:43:40,020 --> 02:43:41,640
scaring animals and

3465
02:43:41,640 --> 02:43:43,500
that kind of stuff it's always about the

3466
02:43:43,500 --> 02:43:44,880
animals their neighbors their neighbors

3467
02:43:44,880 --> 02:43:46,380
gave them a rational crap about it

3468
02:43:46,380 --> 02:43:48,000
guaranteed

3469
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:49,920
but do you feel free to reach out to the

3470
02:43:49,920 --> 02:43:52,500
superintendent and just see what he says

3471
02:43:52,500 --> 02:43:55,690
okay

3472
02:43:55,700 --> 02:43:58,620
Mr Mayor if I'm going to commit to that

3473
02:43:58,620 --> 02:44:00,180
then I want to commit to this end you're

3474
02:44:00,180 --> 02:44:01,580
willing

3475
02:44:01,580 --> 02:44:05,280
why am I going after a conversation to

3476
02:44:05,280 --> 02:44:07,260
have him do something if the counselor

3477
02:44:07,260 --> 02:44:08,700
is not really in favor they want to keep

3478
02:44:08,700 --> 02:44:10,800
you want to keep I'm not opposed to that

3479
02:44:10,800 --> 02:44:12,479
do you want to keep it for Parks so be

3480
02:44:12,479 --> 02:44:14,640
it I'm just saying I look at the first

3481
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:16,920
year in the second year and there was a

3482
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:18,960
considerable falling off and some of the

3483
02:44:18,960 --> 02:44:20,580
people I talked to weren't even from

3484
02:44:20,580 --> 02:44:21,899
Marvin they just followed the band

3485
02:44:21,899 --> 02:44:23,640
that's why we got people there because

3486
02:44:23,640 --> 02:44:25,380
you know you know do you know what

3487
02:44:25,380 --> 02:44:27,540
brought the peoples what's that it was

3488
02:44:27,540 --> 02:44:28,700
the car show

3489
02:44:28,700 --> 02:44:32,580
possibly no it is okay and that's great

3490
02:44:32,580 --> 02:44:34,319
so it brought the peoples

3491
02:44:34,319 --> 02:44:35,939
but nobody's willing to do the car show

3492
02:44:35,939 --> 02:44:39,540
well it's it's a lot of work and I've

3493
02:44:39,540 --> 02:44:42,000
never done it before I've just helped oh

3494
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:43,260
I'm just saying nobody's willing to do

3495
02:44:43,260 --> 02:44:45,540
it well I thought that was an annual

3496
02:44:45,540 --> 02:44:47,760
thing with the band yeah their last

3497
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:49,979
annual thing was when when we they did

3498
02:44:49,979 --> 02:44:51,720
it with us no no it wasn't bad it's

3499
02:44:51,720 --> 02:44:54,420
actually the color guard which they just

3500
02:44:54,420 --> 02:44:56,580
supported and how fun that those guys

3501
02:44:56,580 --> 02:44:59,220
were a big into car and

3502
02:44:59,220 --> 02:45:03,660
I offered five volunteers and and he

3503
02:45:03,660 --> 02:45:05,399
chose not to call any of them and he did

3504
02:45:05,399 --> 02:45:07,020
it all himself and it was just too much

3505
02:45:07,020 --> 02:45:09,060
work for him so and I appreciate that

3506
02:45:09,060 --> 02:45:10,979
because I know how much work is involved

3507
02:45:10,979 --> 02:45:13,560
and I'm certainly I don't have the

3508
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,680
contacts or the ability to Baby able to

3509
02:45:16,680 --> 02:45:19,920
manage that so that's why I stepped

3510
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:21,420
aside and there's no one there to follow

3511
02:45:21,420 --> 02:45:23,880
up with the band as far as who's in cars

3512
02:45:23,880 --> 02:45:25,740
and who they're what kids are currently

3513
02:45:25,740 --> 02:45:28,040
still involved

3514
02:45:28,040 --> 02:45:29,939
it

3515
02:45:29,939 --> 02:45:33,060
quick question on that is there

3516
02:45:33,060 --> 02:45:35,280
as a circuit of

3517
02:45:35,280 --> 02:45:37,439
of car shows that we could coordinate

3518
02:45:37,439 --> 02:45:39,180
with that were going to do a car show

3519
02:45:39,180 --> 02:45:41,880
anyway that just so happened to do it on

3520
02:45:41,880 --> 02:45:45,050
Marvin Day weekend

3521
02:45:45,060 --> 02:45:47,340
because there's multiple car shows that

3522
02:45:47,340 --> 02:45:49,920
go on all around the

3523
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:51,600
Charlotte area

3524
02:45:51,600 --> 02:45:53,760
on a monthly basis they're always there

3525
02:45:53,760 --> 02:45:55,680
and then there's some special ones that

3526
02:45:55,680 --> 02:45:58,680
they'll throw in the problem is people

3527
02:45:58,680 --> 02:46:02,160
and you're out there really

3528
02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:04,740
basically pitching hey come to our car

3529
02:46:04,740 --> 02:46:06,899
show but those car shows they want they

3530
02:46:06,899 --> 02:46:09,540
want judges they want you know as people

3531
02:46:09,540 --> 02:46:11,580
expect to have judges and that's where

3532
02:46:11,580 --> 02:46:15,420
it gets all like who's judging I can't

3533
02:46:15,420 --> 02:46:17,760
do you have the uh the amount of people

3534
02:46:17,760 --> 02:46:18,840
to judge because most of that's

3535
02:46:18,840 --> 02:46:21,420
volunteer stuff and finding those

3536
02:46:21,420 --> 02:46:23,340
individuals to do it and then tabulating

3537
02:46:23,340 --> 02:46:26,880
the results it's it's almost

3538
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:28,680
um impossible but if you were able to

3539
02:46:28,680 --> 02:46:30,479
have a successful car show without

3540
02:46:30,479 --> 02:46:33,660
having Awards and raffle prizes and

3541
02:46:33,660 --> 02:46:35,700
stuff no I get all that but let's just

3542
02:46:35,700 --> 02:46:37,260
say

3543
02:46:37,260 --> 02:46:39,979
uh

3544
02:46:39,979 --> 02:46:43,200
Mopar is going to do a car show

3545
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:44,939
and they're going to do it somewhere at

3546
02:46:44,939 --> 02:46:47,280
some time can we not reach out to Mopar

3547
02:46:47,280 --> 02:46:49,800
and go have it the wicked yeah that's

3548
02:46:49,800 --> 02:47:00,170
all I'm saying and

3549
02:47:00,180 --> 02:47:01,800
it's going to go

3550
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:05,040
you got to have the attendance to get

3551
02:47:05,040 --> 02:47:07,080
people wanting to sponsor the problem

3552
02:47:07,080 --> 02:47:09,240
with doing doing the car show at the

3553
02:47:09,240 --> 02:47:13,439
park is is the space yeah

3554
02:47:13,439 --> 02:47:16,500
but that's why that first year was that

3555
02:47:16,500 --> 02:47:18,660
was that there was a law for a little

3556
02:47:18,660 --> 02:47:21,060
bit and then it moved on to that for

3557
02:47:21,060 --> 02:47:22,859
those that wanted to stay and you could

3558
02:47:22,859 --> 02:47:24,300
park your car and drive and leave

3559
02:47:24,300 --> 02:47:26,640
anytime you wanted which was nice but

3560
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:28,200
everyone stayed for the fireworks but

3561
02:47:28,200 --> 02:47:30,300
now fireworks are off maybe it's a move

3562
02:47:30,300 --> 02:47:34,610
points I'm gonna move on

3563
02:47:34,620 --> 02:47:35,399
um

3564
02:47:35,399 --> 02:47:37,740
and we've all committed to getting

3565
02:47:37,740 --> 02:47:39,240
sponsors

3566
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:40,859
next up we have discuss and consider

3567
02:47:40,859 --> 02:47:43,200
having Marvin Ethan park assist into

3568
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:45,840
multiple multi-purpose fields and to

3569
02:47:45,840 --> 02:47:47,899
enter contract with

3570
02:47:47,899 --> 02:47:50,819
a five percent contingency and allow

3571
02:47:50,819 --> 02:47:55,250
manager to execute the contract

3572
02:47:55,260 --> 02:47:58,260
so attaching your agenda packets is the

3573
02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:00,000
multi-field assessment we said we would

3574
02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:03,540
get working on a couple meetings ago you

3575
02:48:03,540 --> 02:48:05,340
all had discussed the opportunity to

3576
02:48:05,340 --> 02:48:07,680
have soccer and potentially flag

3577
02:48:07,680 --> 02:48:08,760
football

3578
02:48:08,760 --> 02:48:11,700
we discussed the limitations that we

3579
02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:14,280
have at the school system Fields

3580
02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:17,880
currently so what we've done is reached

3581
02:48:17,880 --> 02:48:19,260
out to experts that know what they're

3582
02:48:19,260 --> 02:48:23,040
doing in the creation of fields ask them

3583
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:24,540
to come in and give us a quote as to how

3584
02:48:24,540 --> 02:48:25,680
much they think it's going to cost for

3585
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:27,780
us to really assess what would be needed

3586
02:48:27,780 --> 02:48:29,880
to start that process so that's here in

3587
02:48:29,880 --> 02:48:31,920
front of you it's approximately eighteen

3588
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:34,080
thousand dollars

3589
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:35,520
um

3590
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:38,220
that that's pretty much it I mean Tyler

3591
02:48:38,220 --> 02:48:39,720
unfortunately doesn't have the expertise

3592
02:48:39,720 --> 02:48:42,120
engineering to really understand what's

3593
02:48:42,120 --> 02:48:44,939
needed to put in a field

3594
02:48:44,939 --> 02:48:45,540
um

3595
02:48:45,540 --> 02:48:47,280
so that's that's why we presented this

3596
02:48:47,280 --> 02:48:49,380
option to you all to consider so I've

3597
02:48:49,380 --> 02:48:50,760
had a couple of conversations with you

3598
02:48:50,760 --> 02:48:52,920
about this since we've had you've got

3599
02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:54,600
this information

3600
02:48:54,600 --> 02:48:58,140
this is being driven by residents right

3601
02:48:58,140 --> 02:48:59,520
that's the reason that we're looking at

3602
02:48:59,520 --> 02:49:00,960
this

3603
02:49:00,960 --> 02:49:04,800
so my suggestion is to form a committee

3604
02:49:04,800 --> 02:49:07,939
an exploratory committee that will

3605
02:49:07,939 --> 02:49:10,520
assess the options of multi-field

3606
02:49:10,520 --> 02:49:13,200
multi-purpose Fields try to find out

3607
02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,319
what the options are tap into the

3608
02:49:16,319 --> 02:49:18,540
resources that we have in Marvin and I

3609
02:49:18,540 --> 02:49:20,880
know there's a lot and I brought the wax

3610
02:49:20,880 --> 02:49:22,920
off Sports magazine because I guarantee

3611
02:49:22,920 --> 02:49:25,800
that you know there's a lot of people

3612
02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:28,500
that are want some sort of sports Fields

3613
02:49:28,500 --> 02:49:31,620
here in Marvin I know of Two Gentlemen

3614
02:49:31,620 --> 02:49:33,600
who are interested we had Diane from

3615
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:35,819
belgrove who sent in a public comment

3616
02:49:35,819 --> 02:49:37,439
that we should have field so I think we

3617
02:49:37,439 --> 02:49:38,939
should reach out to her and see if she'd

3618
02:49:38,939 --> 02:49:40,680
like to be on it

3619
02:49:40,680 --> 02:49:42,720
um and then ask everybody if they have

3620
02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:44,520
other people that would like to be on it

3621
02:49:44,520 --> 02:49:46,560
I think we can do a five member

3622
02:49:46,560 --> 02:49:48,000
committee and let them go do some

3623
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:49,620
research staff doesn't have the time

3624
02:49:49,620 --> 02:49:52,020
staff doesn't have the expertise

3625
02:49:52,020 --> 02:49:55,500
to do this so if our residents want

3626
02:49:55,500 --> 02:49:57,180
something like this which I think it's a

3627
02:49:57,180 --> 02:49:58,439
great idea

3628
02:49:58,439 --> 02:50:01,080
I would like their involvement so good

3629
02:50:01,080 --> 02:50:02,520
question do you need a separate

3630
02:50:02,520 --> 02:50:03,840
committee because that seems to fall

3631
02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:06,540
square in the prg boards

3632
02:50:06,540 --> 02:50:09,060
yeah no I want a separate committee for

3633
02:50:09,060 --> 02:50:11,100
this this is not I'm not putting that on

3634
02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:13,979
them I want people who want this before

3635
02:50:13,979 --> 02:50:15,600
you want to put any money towards it

3636
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:17,760
before I put any money towards it I want

3637
02:50:17,760 --> 02:50:19,859
some sort of exploratory committee to go

3638
02:50:19,859 --> 02:50:21,420
out and do some research and you know

3639
02:50:21,420 --> 02:50:23,939
what they may be able to reach out to

3640
02:50:23,939 --> 02:50:25,500
somebody and get them to donate their

3641
02:50:25,500 --> 02:50:27,420
time to give us that expertise where

3642
02:50:27,420 --> 02:50:30,660
we're not paying for it so better you

3643
02:50:30,660 --> 02:50:34,680
think about the Elementary School Marvin

3644
02:50:34,680 --> 02:50:37,500
it's built by all sponsors

3645
02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:40,080
um before and then before Union County

3646
02:50:40,080 --> 02:50:42,359
took it over and a lot of the sponsors

3647
02:50:42,359 --> 02:50:46,020
are still on the fences okay so that's

3648
02:50:46,020 --> 02:50:48,540
right so it's it's it's the gentleman

3649
02:50:48,540 --> 02:50:51,000
Mike who came in

3650
02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:53,700
yeah cannot I never never say Israel

3651
02:50:53,700 --> 02:50:55,859
yeah never say his last name right Milan

3652
02:50:55,859 --> 02:50:57,300
from Marvin Creek they both live in

3653
02:50:57,300 --> 02:50:58,439
Marvin Creek they've talked to each

3654
02:50:58,439 --> 02:51:00,300
other about this somebody can reach out

3655
02:51:00,300 --> 02:51:02,340
to Diane see if she wants to be on it

3656
02:51:02,340 --> 02:51:04,080
and then ask those three people who else

3657
02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:05,460
they might want but I'd have a

3658
02:51:05,460 --> 02:51:07,560
five-person committee

3659
02:51:07,560 --> 02:51:09,359
we can form that and let them do that

3660
02:51:09,359 --> 02:51:12,899
publicize that to get that sure or put

3661
02:51:12,899 --> 02:51:15,540
that on our website says we are we need

3662
02:51:15,540 --> 02:51:16,620
a

3663
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:20,160
um you want to do five or seven people

3664
02:51:20,160 --> 02:51:23,520
three does an ad hoc committee

3665
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:25,560
we can do that I just we'll just need

3666
02:51:25,560 --> 02:51:27,300
information so that these people know

3667
02:51:27,300 --> 02:51:29,040
what they're signing up for

3668
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:30,660
okay what kind of information do you

3669
02:51:30,660 --> 02:51:31,859
want

3670
02:51:31,859 --> 02:51:33,120
Tyler and I can come up with something

3671
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:35,460
okay

3672
02:51:35,460 --> 02:51:36,660
all right everybody good with that

3673
02:51:36,660 --> 02:51:38,580
before we spend any money I I agree

3674
02:51:38,580 --> 02:51:41,399
let's let's again we're driving this

3675
02:51:41,399 --> 02:51:43,920
because residents have come in and asked

3676
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:45,600
for this so let's ask the residents for

3677
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:47,880
some help so and I'll just we'll we'll

3678
02:51:47,880 --> 02:51:50,160
do that and um we'll bring it back to

3679
02:51:50,160 --> 02:51:51,899
you all but what I would suggest to them

3680
02:51:51,899 --> 02:51:53,700
is to go through this proposal see what

3681
02:51:53,700 --> 02:51:55,260
some things that they can do on them

3682
02:51:55,260 --> 02:51:57,000
their own if there are certain

3683
02:51:57,000 --> 02:51:58,979
components of it they still think are

3684
02:51:58,979 --> 02:52:01,020
necessary that they don't have the skill

3685
02:52:01,020 --> 02:52:02,580
set and the expertise to do and they

3686
02:52:02,580 --> 02:52:03,720
can't find it

3687
02:52:03,720 --> 02:52:05,580
maybe they can come back and say hey

3688
02:52:05,580 --> 02:52:07,200
what about this component of the

3689
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:09,300
proposal we all agree to at least do

3690
02:52:09,300 --> 02:52:11,700
this yes and and

3691
02:52:11,700 --> 02:52:12,899
reminder

3692
02:52:12,899 --> 02:52:15,120
Park was built that was always meant to

3693
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:16,439
be a passive Park

3694
02:52:16,439 --> 02:52:18,240
whether they would have any deals on

3695
02:52:18,240 --> 02:52:19,200
there I don't even know if we have

3696
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:21,359
enough room for that quite frankly to

3697
02:52:21,359 --> 02:52:22,740
put the fields that they're talking

3698
02:52:22,740 --> 02:52:25,020
about or how many well we don't know

3699
02:52:25,020 --> 02:52:26,399
that either so that's why we're going to

3700
02:52:26,399 --> 02:52:28,080
find out and we're gonna let them do

3701
02:52:28,080 --> 02:52:30,120
some legwork

3702
02:52:30,120 --> 02:52:32,819
Okay so

3703
02:52:32,819 --> 02:52:35,460
we good there you know you're marching

3704
02:52:35,460 --> 02:52:37,920
order there okay thanks

3705
02:52:37,920 --> 02:52:38,880
um

3706
02:52:38,880 --> 02:52:44,180
next up we have uh discuss and consider

3707
02:52:44,180 --> 02:52:46,500
postponing internet installation at

3708
02:52:46,500 --> 02:52:52,010
Marvin E for Parker

3709
02:52:52,020 --> 02:52:53,160
um we thought this was going to be an

3710
02:52:53,160 --> 02:52:55,380
easy fix unfortunately when we got the

3711
02:52:55,380 --> 02:52:57,779
quote back uh well we we got the quote

3712
02:52:57,779 --> 02:52:59,160
that we had

3713
02:52:59,160 --> 02:53:00,840
ask for the five thousand dollars for

3714
02:53:00,840 --> 02:53:02,279
but unfortunately the price it was given

3715
02:53:02,279 --> 02:53:04,260
was per month not annually

3716
02:53:04,260 --> 02:53:05,939
yes and it was like eight or nine

3717
02:53:05,939 --> 02:53:07,920
hundred dollars a month

3718
02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:11,279
um so basically it was going to be for

3719
02:53:11,279 --> 02:53:13,439
Internet service at the park what I mean

3720
02:53:13,439 --> 02:53:16,080
what kind of crap is that nobody pays

3721
02:53:16,080 --> 02:53:19,260
that who pays that what we did was we

3722
02:53:19,260 --> 02:53:21,120
went with our current vendor who's

3723
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,580
Windstream to see what they would cost

3724
02:53:23,580 --> 02:53:25,500
well because there's no line they have

3725
02:53:25,500 --> 02:53:26,700
to run the line out there so they

3726
02:53:26,700 --> 02:53:28,380
basically were going to make us on

3727
02:53:28,380 --> 02:53:30,540
roughly a twenty thousand dollar

3728
02:53:30,540 --> 02:53:33,000
contract for five years

3729
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:34,560
um

3730
02:53:34,560 --> 02:53:37,080
so and and also I wanted to say maybe it

3731
02:53:37,080 --> 02:53:39,060
was eleven thousand let's see I'm sorry

3732
02:53:39,060 --> 02:53:41,939
it was eleven thousand per year not 20.

3733
02:53:41,939 --> 02:53:44,279
same thing

3734
02:53:44,279 --> 02:53:46,319
um and that was only a hundred megabytes

3735
02:53:46,319 --> 02:53:47,520
per second

3736
02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:49,979
so just so you know what we use here

3737
02:53:49,979 --> 02:53:52,020
with the staff that we have we use 200

3738
02:53:52,020 --> 02:53:55,680
per 200 millibytes per second so 100 is

3739
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:58,560
is basically half of the usage year

3740
02:53:58,560 --> 02:54:00,060
um

3741
02:54:00,060 --> 02:54:01,859
additional megabytes per second were

3742
02:54:01,859 --> 02:54:04,620
another 600 per month so we did ask

3743
02:54:04,620 --> 02:54:07,380
Windstream how much they would charge us

3744
02:54:07,380 --> 02:54:09,000
and it was about five thousand dollars a

3745
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:10,260
year

3746
02:54:10,260 --> 02:54:13,020
that that all right so

3747
02:54:13,020 --> 02:54:15,000
who's the internet provider that does

3748
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:16,500
all of the neighborhoods surrounding the

3749
02:54:16,500 --> 02:54:18,840
park I was going to say Walter Pond has

3750
02:54:18,840 --> 02:54:21,180
to have internet how in the world are

3751
02:54:21,180 --> 02:54:22,920
they not connecting in there this is in

3752
02:54:22,920 --> 02:54:24,479
Marvin across from the across the street

3753
02:54:24,479 --> 02:54:26,939
yeah the the big huge neighborhood

3754
02:54:26,939 --> 02:54:28,920
that's across the street where do they

3755
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:30,840
get their internet service from I have

3756
02:54:30,840 --> 02:54:32,040
no clue

3757
02:54:32,040 --> 02:54:34,560
there's got to be I mean there's service

3758
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:36,060
up and down that road there's too many

3759
02:54:36,060 --> 02:54:38,340
high-end residences in that area that

3760
02:54:38,340 --> 02:54:40,399
there's not internet service along

3761
02:54:40,399 --> 02:54:43,680
Newtown Road that could access the park

3762
02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:45,300
I mean

3763
02:54:45,300 --> 02:54:48,359
this is craziness they want to run a

3764
02:54:48,359 --> 02:54:49,160
line

3765
02:54:49,160 --> 02:54:52,680
specifically I I if you go do we call

3766
02:54:52,680 --> 02:54:54,000
Spectrum

3767
02:54:54,000 --> 02:54:56,399
no we did not we did that's probably Who

3768
02:54:56,399 --> 02:54:57,479
services it because they service

3769
02:54:57,479 --> 02:54:59,100
everything else around here I tell you

3770
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,020
if you call Spectrum and I'm just I'm

3771
02:55:01,020 --> 02:55:02,819
assuming okay I don't want to get too

3772
02:55:02,819 --> 02:55:04,560
far ahead of myself but if you call

3773
02:55:04,560 --> 02:55:06,120
Spectrum and said hey we need internet

3774
02:55:06,120 --> 02:55:08,580
service at even Park they probably go

3775
02:55:08,580 --> 02:55:10,380
okay we'll send the van out there Bam

3776
02:55:10,380 --> 02:55:12,779
Bam Bam and we got internet service 50

3777
02:55:12,779 --> 02:55:15,600
bucks a month right yeah some I think

3778
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:18,180
somebody's just again as we look at

3779
02:55:18,180 --> 02:55:20,040
government and we want to our government

3780
02:55:20,040 --> 02:55:23,399
sometimes is gets a bad rap for doing so

3781
02:55:23,399 --> 02:55:25,859
Christina call call out there don't sell

3782
02:55:25,859 --> 02:55:27,540
them who you are I mean tell them your

3783
02:55:27,540 --> 02:55:30,600
name give them the address

3784
02:55:30,600 --> 02:55:33,180
I'm gonna get I'll get my mic on it and

3785
02:55:33,180 --> 02:55:34,680
but don't say that you're with the

3786
02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:36,420
village of Marvin because maybe they are

3787
02:55:36,420 --> 02:55:38,880
trying to jack it up like price wise get

3788
02:55:38,880 --> 02:55:40,680
it is like you're a person that you've

3789
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:43,680
got a building out there a house okay

3790
02:55:43,680 --> 02:55:46,680
that you want internet at or at T or

3791
02:55:46,680 --> 02:55:48,359
Verizon yeah I was about to say they

3792
02:55:48,359 --> 02:55:50,580
have or T-Mobile they have the wireless

3793
02:55:50,580 --> 02:55:53,460
internet that runs off cell service now

3794
02:55:53,460 --> 02:55:54,779
um well that's that's the other option

3795
02:55:54,779 --> 02:55:56,819
if if we wanted to go that route and

3796
02:55:56,819 --> 02:56:00,120
it's still most of those providers still

3797
02:56:00,120 --> 02:56:02,100
provide anywhere from 100 to 200 Megs

3798
02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:04,080
per second okay we'll we'll get some

3799
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:05,880
more options some of that stuff is but I

3800
02:56:05,880 --> 02:56:07,080
mean if you don't have real good cell

3801
02:56:07,080 --> 02:56:08,760
service in an area then you don't get

3802
02:56:08,760 --> 02:56:11,279
the the good correct speed you have to

3803
02:56:11,279 --> 02:56:12,660
look at what's the best sell provider

3804
02:56:12,660 --> 02:56:14,399
but I guarantee you to Jamie's Point

3805
02:56:14,399 --> 02:56:16,380
spectrum is out there they serve it this

3806
02:56:16,380 --> 02:56:18,260
entire area before anybody else came in

3807
02:56:18,260 --> 02:56:22,080
and I get 200 Megs on mine and I think

3808
02:56:22,080 --> 02:56:24,899
it's 50 or 60 bucks a month for just the

3809
02:56:24,899 --> 02:56:26,580
internet portion of my bill

3810
02:56:26,580 --> 02:56:29,340
it's not that crazy expensive well and I

3811
02:56:29,340 --> 02:56:31,020
don't know you know they have there's

3812
02:56:31,020 --> 02:56:32,460
nothing out there so they literally have

3813
02:56:32,460 --> 02:56:34,439
to run the line from the road all the

3814
02:56:34,439 --> 02:56:36,359
way down to the barn they charge an

3815
02:56:36,359 --> 02:56:39,540
install fee for for spectrum but and I

3816
02:56:39,540 --> 02:56:40,859
think that's where the bulk of the

3817
02:56:40,859 --> 02:56:42,180
charge is coming from is running that

3818
02:56:42,180 --> 02:56:44,819
line down there yeah I mean because

3819
02:56:44,819 --> 02:56:47,040
spectrum is run on coax that stuff is

3820
02:56:47,040 --> 02:56:50,340
cheap and easy to lay people get run way

3821
02:56:50,340 --> 02:56:53,000
off the road to their homes too I don't

3822
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:55,439
they typically don't charge crazy

3823
02:56:55,439 --> 02:56:57,319
amounts of money

3824
02:56:57,319 --> 02:56:59,819
it doesn't have the linear feet but I

3825
02:56:59,819 --> 02:57:02,100
assure that's probably what the the high

3826
02:57:02,100 --> 02:57:04,380
cost is

3827
02:57:04,380 --> 02:57:06,240
so this is going to be a back burner

3828
02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:08,220
item for for us just so y'all know we'll

3829
02:57:08,220 --> 02:57:09,899
we'll get to Spectrum and start working

3830
02:57:09,899 --> 02:57:16,250
on it but

3831
02:57:16,260 --> 02:57:26,570
that's all that happens

3832
02:57:26,580 --> 02:57:27,899
we're gonna we're gonna table the

3833
02:57:27,899 --> 02:57:30,420
internet until further research is done

3834
02:57:30,420 --> 02:57:37,070
by staff

3835
02:57:37,080 --> 02:57:40,439
all right do we have to motion no

3836
02:57:40,439 --> 02:57:42,899
okay discussing next up is discuss and

3837
02:57:42,899 --> 02:57:45,420
consider entering contract with bars

3838
02:57:45,420 --> 02:57:47,340
Recreation for construction of the new

3839
02:57:47,340 --> 02:57:51,720
playground and all

3840
02:57:51,720 --> 02:57:55,800
allow manager to execute the contract

3841
02:57:55,800 --> 02:57:57,779
should I allow you to

3842
02:57:57,779 --> 02:58:00,359
to do this this is this is massively

3843
02:58:00,359 --> 02:58:03,120
confusing we tried to put this into a

3844
02:58:03,120 --> 02:58:06,240
nice chart which is this that you see

3845
02:58:06,240 --> 02:58:07,920
here not really sure what it's called in

3846
02:58:07,920 --> 02:58:10,260
the agenda packet

3847
02:58:10,260 --> 02:58:13,920
huh it's all in one well this is look at

3848
02:58:13,920 --> 02:58:17,809
this document right here

3849
02:58:17,819 --> 02:58:20,580
you want to do it you want me to do it

3850
02:58:20,580 --> 02:58:21,960
I'll do it

3851
02:58:21,960 --> 02:58:28,309
Okay so

3852
02:58:28,319 --> 02:58:31,920
all right go ahead Tyler all right

3853
02:58:31,920 --> 02:58:35,819
so this just shows the savings and like

3854
02:58:35,819 --> 02:58:37,319
kind of the differences in the three

3855
02:58:37,319 --> 02:58:39,240
options that we presented the three

3856
02:58:39,240 --> 02:58:41,340
quotes we have option A is the

3857
02:58:41,340 --> 02:58:44,460
playground with no top lot option b is

3858
02:58:44,460 --> 02:58:47,580
no poor surface so it's a mulch bottom

3859
02:58:47,580 --> 02:58:50,819
and then option C is the original one

3860
02:58:50,819 --> 02:58:53,040
that we've had for a while

3861
02:58:53,040 --> 02:58:55,260
um if you go down the list you can see

3862
02:58:55,260 --> 02:58:58,560
this is on that chart that's what we can

3863
02:58:58,560 --> 02:59:00,479
save ourselves by doing you know the

3864
02:59:00,479 --> 02:59:02,460
removal the demo

3865
02:59:02,460 --> 02:59:05,520
um when you take out the concrete when

3866
02:59:05,520 --> 02:59:07,859
you take off the performance bond

3867
02:59:07,859 --> 02:59:10,680
the highlighted in yellow is basically

3868
02:59:10,680 --> 02:59:14,220
the savings and then highlighted blue is

3869
02:59:14,220 --> 02:59:17,340
the cost for each quote

3870
02:59:17,340 --> 02:59:18,779
um when you take into consideration all

3871
02:59:18,779 --> 02:59:20,100
the things we've

3872
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:22,979
can do ourselves

3873
02:59:22,979 --> 02:59:24,359
and at the very bottom you'll see that's

3874
02:59:24,359 --> 02:59:26,279
our quote that we got from an outside

3875
02:59:26,279 --> 02:59:28,920
source for concrete

3876
02:59:28,920 --> 02:59:30,899
and that's included

3877
02:59:30,899 --> 02:59:33,120
one thing that I'll note the things we

3878
02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:34,859
can do ourselves are not necessarily

3879
02:59:34,859 --> 02:59:36,479
things that we can do ourselves they're

3880
02:59:36,479 --> 02:59:38,760
things that mayor Plano had asked to to

3881
02:59:38,760 --> 02:59:40,380
put in that he would potentially be

3882
02:59:40,380 --> 02:59:42,359
interested in removing

3883
02:59:42,359 --> 02:59:45,180
so I don't feel comfortable

3884
02:59:45,180 --> 02:59:46,920
I don't feel comfortable with us at a

3885
02:59:46,920 --> 02:59:48,620
staff level doing these things ourselves

3886
02:59:48,620 --> 02:59:51,840
so my recommendation is we leave the

3887
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:54,359
demo and the removal in but if you guys

3888
02:59:54,359 --> 02:59:55,680
decide that that's something you all

3889
02:59:55,680 --> 02:59:57,140
want to do

3890
02:59:57,140 --> 02:59:59,460
we can go that route

3891
02:59:59,460 --> 03:00:01,380
I just know that

3892
03:00:01,380 --> 03:00:01,920
um

3893
03:00:01,920 --> 03:00:05,340
there are some additions that may end up

3894
03:00:05,340 --> 03:00:07,260
happening if they're not removed

3895
03:00:07,260 --> 03:00:09,120
correctly and the the ground is not

3896
03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:11,580
regraded correctly there's very specific

3897
03:00:11,580 --> 03:00:13,640
language

3898
03:00:13,640 --> 03:00:16,200
who told you that it's in the contract

3899
03:00:16,200 --> 03:00:17,640
it's in there

3900
03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:19,979
in their proposals yes they won they

3901
03:00:19,979 --> 03:00:21,779
want a piece of that action I guarantee

3902
03:00:21,779 --> 03:00:23,939
you what are you going to screw up when

3903
03:00:23,939 --> 03:00:26,160
you when you remove something you're

3904
03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:28,080
going to really screw up the land not

3905
03:00:28,080 --> 03:00:30,240
necessarily removal but the regrading of

3906
03:00:30,240 --> 03:00:32,180
bringing the grade to the development

3907
03:00:32,180 --> 03:00:35,460
from you but from that company telling

3908
03:00:35,460 --> 03:00:39,000
us that every single option every single

3909
03:00:39,000 --> 03:00:42,600
option has a cost to it because and

3910
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:44,939
they're going to create some oh you did

3911
03:00:44,939 --> 03:00:47,939
this when you removed it how we can't do

3912
03:00:47,939 --> 03:00:49,740
this so now it's going to cost you extra

3913
03:00:49,740 --> 03:00:52,680
a highlight of that part of the quote

3914
03:00:52,680 --> 03:00:55,020
just so y'all can see it for yourself

3915
03:00:55,020 --> 03:00:58,080
and I threw in tell them what's up on

3916
03:00:58,080 --> 03:01:00,120
top of that estimate I did throw in a

3917
03:01:00,120 --> 03:01:01,979
ten thousand dollar just buffer penalty

3918
03:01:01,979 --> 03:01:04,500
just in case I don't know how much it's

3919
03:01:04,500 --> 03:01:05,939
going to be

3920
03:01:05,939 --> 03:01:07,080
um and she doesn't even know how much

3921
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:08,640
it's going to be so I just threw that in

3922
03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:12,950
as a buffer

3923
03:01:12,960 --> 03:01:19,870
there's not a specific

3924
03:01:19,880 --> 03:01:23,340
playground equipment having a hiring a

3925
03:01:23,340 --> 03:01:25,560
company to come in there you could

3926
03:01:25,560 --> 03:01:26,880
always go back to the company and say

3927
03:01:26,880 --> 03:01:28,080
you damn

3928
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:29,640
it says installation of your commercial

3929
03:01:29,640 --> 03:01:31,500
equipment completed on the prepared site

3930
03:01:31,500 --> 03:01:34,859
with a level of within two percent grade

3931
03:01:34,859 --> 03:01:36,899
that has a surface of compacted soil

3932
03:01:36,899 --> 03:01:39,779
only the owner representative must be on

3933
03:01:39,779 --> 03:01:41,880
site when it happens if the site is not

3934
03:01:41,880 --> 03:01:44,220
prepared correctly when the install crew

3935
03:01:44,220 --> 03:01:47,279
arrives a fee will be discussed for our

3936
03:01:47,279 --> 03:01:49,140
crew to complete if the crew is sent

3937
03:01:49,140 --> 03:01:50,700
away for the owner to handle the site

3938
03:01:50,700 --> 03:01:53,399
prep a lost time and remobilization fee

3939
03:01:53,399 --> 03:01:54,779
will occur

3940
03:01:54,779 --> 03:01:57,120
if this Clause this Clause will be

3941
03:01:57,120 --> 03:01:59,220
removed if demo and Grading itemized and

3942
03:01:59,220 --> 03:02:02,399
quote it remains atypical soil

3943
03:02:02,399 --> 03:02:04,140
situations where excessive Bedrock floor

3944
03:02:04,140 --> 03:02:07,620
concrete Footers are encountered

3945
03:02:07,620 --> 03:02:09,540
such that a rock hammer and heavy

3946
03:02:09,540 --> 03:02:11,220
equipment is needed additional fee will

3947
03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:13,380
be assessed this quote does not include

3948
03:02:13,380 --> 03:02:15,420
permits permits or responsibility of the

3949
03:02:15,420 --> 03:02:20,690
project and owner project owner

3950
03:02:20,700 --> 03:02:25,610
ewf where do you see that

3951
03:02:25,620 --> 03:02:27,840
where's that at removal and disposal of

3952
03:02:27,840 --> 03:02:30,600
existing ewf and slight grading of main

3953
03:02:30,600 --> 03:02:33,720
playground areas under service

3954
03:02:33,720 --> 03:02:39,590
it's cost 18 250 dollars

3955
03:02:39,600 --> 03:02:44,269
that's why I'm asking what is ewf

3956
03:02:44,279 --> 03:02:48,000
the slide existing wood

3957
03:02:48,000 --> 03:02:51,600
whatever the material frame

3958
03:02:51,600 --> 03:02:53,220
what is it whatever the what nation

3959
03:02:53,220 --> 03:02:54,479
Maybe

3960
03:02:54,479 --> 03:02:56,399
they call those certain they call them

3961
03:02:56,399 --> 03:02:59,160
playground materials stuff like weird

3962
03:02:59,160 --> 03:03:00,840
names but it but it says removal and

3963
03:03:00,840 --> 03:03:03,359
disposal of existing structure is 7 500

3964
03:03:03,359 --> 03:03:05,700
then right below that it says removal

3965
03:03:05,700 --> 03:03:08,640
and disposal of existing ewf and slight

3966
03:03:08,640 --> 03:03:11,520
grading of main playground area includes

3967
03:03:11,520 --> 03:03:13,500
removing all exist oh existing wood

3968
03:03:13,500 --> 03:03:16,200
surfacing and borders to get to get the

3969
03:03:16,200 --> 03:03:18,600
site to original Earth

3970
03:03:18,600 --> 03:03:21,779
and grading the site slightly to assure

3971
03:03:21,779 --> 03:03:23,399
proper grade and to help with drainage

3972
03:03:23,399 --> 03:03:30,769
issues

3973
03:03:30,779 --> 03:03:32,939
trying to follow all of this even as I

3974
03:03:32,939 --> 03:03:34,140
was reading

3975
03:03:34,140 --> 03:03:35,580
at home

3976
03:03:35,580 --> 03:03:39,420
option b and option C the structures are

3977
03:03:39,420 --> 03:03:42,600
identical correct nothing's changed the

3978
03:03:42,600 --> 03:03:44,760
same thing you got the little talk yep

3979
03:03:44,760 --> 03:03:48,060
structure Etc and the swings yes so all

3980
03:03:48,060 --> 03:03:49,859
we're talking about is just the ground

3981
03:03:49,859 --> 03:03:52,260
yes

3982
03:03:52,260 --> 03:03:54,479
see because obviously both pictures look

3983
03:03:54,479 --> 03:03:56,640
identical but all options are the same

3984
03:03:56,640 --> 03:04:00,899
except for a also includes an additional

3985
03:04:00,899 --> 03:04:03,779
piece for Tots on a different area

3986
03:04:03,779 --> 03:04:06,420
so if it does not included no that's not

3987
03:04:06,420 --> 03:04:08,580
included oh I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah no

3988
03:04:08,580 --> 03:04:10,620
I'm just saying B and C are other state

3989
03:04:10,620 --> 03:04:13,500
structures we're just talking about the

3990
03:04:13,500 --> 03:04:15,779
term which I'll be honest with you like

3991
03:04:15,779 --> 03:04:19,020
I would much rather have their

3992
03:04:19,020 --> 03:04:22,260
sturdier hardier longer lasting surface

3993
03:04:22,260 --> 03:04:24,720
I agree I don't want mulch yeah I don't

3994
03:04:24,720 --> 03:04:26,100
because we're going to have to replace

3995
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:28,260
it all of the time it's going to be a

3996
03:04:28,260 --> 03:04:30,899
thing and they can guarantee I assume

3997
03:04:30,899 --> 03:04:32,640
what's what's the guarantee on this

3998
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:34,080
thing

3999
03:04:34,080 --> 03:04:36,060
is there a guarantee the warranty

4000
03:04:36,060 --> 03:04:38,640
warranty on it

4001
03:04:38,640 --> 03:04:40,260
we asked him that before I can't

4002
03:04:40,260 --> 03:04:41,880
remember what they said if we're going

4003
03:04:41,880 --> 03:04:44,100
to go the extra mile

4004
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:47,040
um with with the turf I kind of want to

4005
03:04:47,040 --> 03:04:48,720
see if you know two years from now being

4006
03:04:48,720 --> 03:04:50,640
broken up with

4007
03:04:50,640 --> 03:04:52,740
whatever rain or whatever is going to be

4008
03:04:52,740 --> 03:04:54,300
happening

4009
03:04:54,300 --> 03:04:57,180
um so basically so keep going sorry

4010
03:04:57,180 --> 03:05:05,870
keep going I interrupted that was right

4011
03:05:05,880 --> 03:05:07,560
but I think it's going to be fabulous

4012
03:05:07,560 --> 03:05:08,520
looking

4013
03:05:08,520 --> 03:05:13,020
I mean it's if we're going this much

4014
03:05:13,020 --> 03:05:15,660
you know with what's going to be a

4015
03:05:15,660 --> 03:05:19,969
spectacular centerpiece

4016
03:05:19,979 --> 03:05:21,960
quite honestly and I totally agree with

4017
03:05:21,960 --> 03:05:23,640
you Kim

4018
03:05:23,640 --> 03:05:25,800
um before I left

4019
03:05:25,800 --> 03:05:27,479
I'd want to make sure that the public

4020
03:05:27,479 --> 03:05:30,060
would want whatever we're doing whatever

4021
03:05:30,060 --> 03:05:32,100
they're thinking they want out at the

4022
03:05:32,100 --> 03:05:33,660
park and spend nineteen thousand dollars

4023
03:05:33,660 --> 03:05:36,960
for that I'd rather invest it in this

4024
03:05:36,960 --> 03:05:39,889
mm-hmm

4025
03:05:39,899 --> 03:05:44,640
um so as far as the the grading

4026
03:05:44,640 --> 03:05:47,760
you know if you remove the the swing I

4027
03:05:47,760 --> 03:05:48,899
still don't think the grade is going to

4028
03:05:48,899 --> 03:05:51,060
be what they're looking for just just

4029
03:05:51,060 --> 03:05:54,960
for a reference a two percent grade is

4030
03:05:54,960 --> 03:05:57,899
what I build patios on it's almost flat

4031
03:05:57,899 --> 03:06:00,720
it's just barely enough to shed the

4032
03:06:00,720 --> 03:06:03,960
water so it's there's going to be

4033
03:06:03,960 --> 03:06:06,600
grading done on this site no matter who

4034
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:09,420
takes the thing down yes for the

4035
03:06:09,420 --> 03:06:10,500
installation

4036
03:06:10,500 --> 03:06:12,300
so

4037
03:06:12,300 --> 03:06:13,740
you don't feel like saying they're going

4038
03:06:13,740 --> 03:06:15,300
to grade

4039
03:06:15,300 --> 03:06:16,620
they're going to have to grade it no

4040
03:06:16,620 --> 03:06:18,720
matter what yeah but but if we take

4041
03:06:18,720 --> 03:06:21,420
right but if we take that out

4042
03:06:21,420 --> 03:06:23,220
it's 18 they're basically saying they're

4043
03:06:23,220 --> 03:06:24,479
going to remove all the mulch and then

4044
03:06:24,479 --> 03:06:26,100
grade it for eighteen thousand dollars

4045
03:06:26,100 --> 03:06:29,870
yeah

4046
03:06:29,880 --> 03:06:32,399
so I think that I mean we can leave that

4047
03:06:32,399 --> 03:06:33,600
in there

4048
03:06:33,600 --> 03:06:35,640
and they're going to grade so you

4049
03:06:35,640 --> 03:06:37,319
removing the structure I don't think is

4050
03:06:37,319 --> 03:06:40,260
a big deal one year warranty limited

4051
03:06:40,260 --> 03:06:42,120
warranty 10-year limited warranty five

4052
03:06:42,120 --> 03:06:45,060
year limited worry warranty warranties

4053
03:06:45,060 --> 03:06:46,920
are all different like based on what the

4054
03:06:46,920 --> 03:06:48,779
problem is yeah there's different

4055
03:06:48,779 --> 03:06:49,939
warranties

4056
03:06:49,939 --> 03:06:52,979
if you want the place that Joe then it's

4057
03:06:52,979 --> 03:06:56,580
not that big of us it's 7 500 7 500

4058
03:06:56,580 --> 03:06:59,460
bucks here's the thing sounds to me like

4059
03:06:59,460 --> 03:07:00,899
they're going to find something wrong if

4060
03:07:00,899 --> 03:07:02,580
we did it yeah they're going to find

4061
03:07:02,580 --> 03:07:04,020
something wrong with whatever we do

4062
03:07:04,020 --> 03:07:07,439
right that's one thing the other point

4063
03:07:07,439 --> 03:07:09,960
is I don't know where y'all stand on the

4064
03:07:09,960 --> 03:07:12,960
on the top thing

4065
03:07:12,960 --> 03:07:17,150
when we're spending this kind of money

4066
03:07:17,160 --> 03:07:19,080
people have all ages of kids when they

4067
03:07:19,080 --> 03:07:21,180
go out there I I don't know about y'all

4068
03:07:21,180 --> 03:07:23,779
but I want to talk I do too I understand

4069
03:07:23,779 --> 03:07:27,120
yeah but there are people that go out

4070
03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:28,800
there to have the little ones that just

4071
03:07:28,800 --> 03:07:31,680
want to crawl around so God you know

4072
03:07:31,680 --> 03:07:33,479
there's sometimes we pinch pennies and

4073
03:07:33,479 --> 03:07:35,580
we and we should absolutely Pinch A

4074
03:07:35,580 --> 03:07:37,260
Penny yeah

4075
03:07:37,260 --> 03:07:40,319
but there but there are times where

4076
03:07:40,319 --> 03:07:42,899
this is a long-term investment yeah

4077
03:07:42,899 --> 03:07:46,220
absolutely for the centerpiece this is

4078
03:07:46,220 --> 03:07:50,340
for everyone in in Marvin this this says

4079
03:07:50,340 --> 03:07:52,560
Marvin so

4080
03:07:52,560 --> 03:07:57,779
let's spin the the let's I'm all for it

4081
03:07:57,779 --> 03:08:00,240
let's grade let's if they want to grade

4082
03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:02,040
it let them grade it let them do it we

4083
03:08:02,040 --> 03:08:03,479
can go back to them and say you didn't

4084
03:08:03,479 --> 03:08:05,819
do it right yeah but if we do it well

4085
03:08:05,819 --> 03:08:07,439
we're just I just I just think we're

4086
03:08:07,439 --> 03:08:10,200
opening ourselves up to too many issues

4087
03:08:10,200 --> 03:08:12,120
I've heard critics I think we could do

4088
03:08:12,120 --> 03:08:13,979
it better than them but I'm just saying

4089
03:08:13,979 --> 03:08:15,479
they're going to find something wrong

4090
03:08:15,479 --> 03:08:18,300
with it I I as far as the top thing I've

4091
03:08:18,300 --> 03:08:21,300
I've heard criticism from people that we

4092
03:08:21,300 --> 03:08:24,300
don't have that available so I'm all 100

4093
03:08:24,300 --> 03:08:27,420
in on yeah I don't think anybody I think

4094
03:08:27,420 --> 03:08:28,740
we're all in agreement that's hot lot

4095
03:08:28,740 --> 03:08:30,000
yeah for sure I think we're all in

4096
03:08:30,000 --> 03:08:32,939
agreement as option C it's going to be a

4097
03:08:32,939 --> 03:08:34,680
matter of one we gotta find the money

4098
03:08:34,680 --> 03:08:38,060
and two do we want to let somebody else

4099
03:08:38,060 --> 03:08:41,040
remove and dispose of the existing

4100
03:08:41,040 --> 03:08:44,100
structure and then let them do

4101
03:08:44,100 --> 03:08:45,560
the

4102
03:08:45,560 --> 03:08:48,600
ewf flight grading

4103
03:08:48,600 --> 03:08:52,260
I I think if you want to put it up for

4104
03:08:52,260 --> 03:08:55,279
auction put it up for

4105
03:08:55,279 --> 03:08:58,200
bid or put for someone that that wants

4106
03:08:58,200 --> 03:09:01,859
to do it come in because there may be in

4107
03:09:01,859 --> 03:09:03,660
a minute municipality or someone around

4108
03:09:03,660 --> 03:09:06,180
that says I'd like to do I'd like to

4109
03:09:06,180 --> 03:09:09,420
take it away let's let them do that and

4110
03:09:09,420 --> 03:09:12,420
let but let them do it and maybe we make

4111
03:09:12,420 --> 03:09:15,180
a thousand bucks off of it or 500 bucks

4112
03:09:15,180 --> 03:09:17,279
off of it but let them come in after

4113
03:09:17,279 --> 03:09:19,020
that's done and do the grading part yeah

4114
03:09:19,020 --> 03:09:27,010
exactly totally agree yeah

4115
03:09:27,020 --> 03:09:32,929
we're not in the business of of selling

4116
03:09:32,939 --> 03:09:36,060
playground I agree I just think it's a

4117
03:09:36,060 --> 03:09:39,180
I I agree but I mean there are times we

4118
03:09:39,180 --> 03:09:40,680
get in with contractors and they come

4119
03:09:40,680 --> 03:09:42,420
out and they do stuff and I'm like but

4120
03:09:42,420 --> 03:09:44,100
you know what I can fight it for 10

4121
03:09:44,100 --> 03:09:47,760
bucks I'm trying I'm gonna cost myself a

4122
03:09:47,760 --> 03:09:49,979
hundred dollars worth of Sanity to save

4123
03:09:49,979 --> 03:09:52,260
ten dollars go ahead and pay the ten

4124
03:09:52,260 --> 03:09:54,240
dollars yeah one of the other variables

4125
03:09:54,240 --> 03:09:57,000
I'll mention to you too is timelines if

4126
03:09:57,000 --> 03:09:59,340
we're gonna allow someone else to do it

4127
03:09:59,340 --> 03:10:01,140
a third party to do it

4128
03:10:01,140 --> 03:10:03,240
um you know and they come in and say

4129
03:10:03,240 --> 03:10:04,620
we're gonna have to give them some

4130
03:10:04,620 --> 03:10:05,819
timelines I don't know how it's going to

4131
03:10:05,819 --> 03:10:08,160
impact the timeline on

4132
03:10:08,160 --> 03:10:10,920
the vendor of not the you know not being

4133
03:10:10,920 --> 03:10:12,899
up by the certain time we just don't

4134
03:10:12,899 --> 03:10:14,160
have to play with those timelines really

4135
03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:17,100
really close in order to only have the

4136
03:10:17,100 --> 03:10:18,960
Park closed and inoperable for a certain

4137
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:21,300
number of days

4138
03:10:21,300 --> 03:10:23,220
I'm just throwing that out there but

4139
03:10:23,220 --> 03:10:24,359
didn't we'll have to have a little bit

4140
03:10:24,359 --> 03:10:25,920
of buffer in between which is basically

4141
03:10:25,920 --> 03:10:29,220
going to take more time didn't we also

4142
03:10:29,220 --> 03:10:32,279
consider or discuss that this would be

4143
03:10:32,279 --> 03:10:33,899
done somewhere in the winter months

4144
03:10:33,899 --> 03:10:35,520
where there's not enough there's not a

4145
03:10:35,520 --> 03:10:38,580
lot of activity going on yeah okay yeah

4146
03:10:38,580 --> 03:10:39,600
but what I'm saying is we're going to

4147
03:10:39,600 --> 03:10:41,640
have to probably correction okay

4148
03:10:41,640 --> 03:10:43,979
coordinate that yeah happening I

4149
03:10:43,979 --> 03:10:46,439
understand okay

4150
03:10:46,439 --> 03:10:48,840
the concrete I don't know that I want

4151
03:10:48,840 --> 03:10:54,469
concrete curbing around the playground

4152
03:10:54,479 --> 03:10:57,779
I mean isn't there a way to keep the sir

4153
03:10:57,779 --> 03:10:59,460
I mean is does this mean it's going all

4154
03:10:59,460 --> 03:11:01,700
the way around the surface

4155
03:11:01,700 --> 03:11:05,220
yeah that's real yeah but don't they

4156
03:11:05,220 --> 03:11:06,899
have that don't don't they have that

4157
03:11:06,899 --> 03:11:10,080
hard rubber hard uh plastic I don't know

4158
03:11:10,080 --> 03:11:11,279
what it's called

4159
03:11:11,279 --> 03:11:13,880
foreign place

4160
03:11:13,880 --> 03:11:17,160
it's a Concrete curving for both Maine

4161
03:11:17,160 --> 03:11:19,380
and taut playground areas

4162
03:11:19,380 --> 03:11:22,439
six inch wide by eight inch deep

4163
03:11:22,439 --> 03:11:24,300
I don't know what that is I don't want a

4164
03:11:24,300 --> 03:11:26,040
concrete Pathway to the new playground

4165
03:11:26,040 --> 03:11:28,680
nor do I want a concrete Pathway to the

4166
03:11:28,680 --> 03:11:32,279
top playground I think Ada purposes I

4167
03:11:32,279 --> 03:11:34,500
think you have to

4168
03:11:34,500 --> 03:11:35,180
um

4169
03:11:35,180 --> 03:11:37,740
why can't I why can't it can be our

4170
03:11:37,740 --> 03:11:39,260
Trail

4171
03:11:39,260 --> 03:11:42,240
surface which is Ada approved

4172
03:11:42,240 --> 03:11:44,760
I'm sorry I was listening to both of

4173
03:11:44,760 --> 03:11:46,680
y'all we're saying the same thing what

4174
03:11:46,680 --> 03:11:49,439
was the question yeah our our Trail

4175
03:11:49,439 --> 03:11:51,359
surface our natural Trail surface not

4176
03:11:51,359 --> 03:11:52,740
not whatever's out here I don't know

4177
03:11:52,740 --> 03:11:54,420
what that is but not whatever's out here

4178
03:11:54,420 --> 03:11:56,220
but what's on like our natural Trails

4179
03:11:56,220 --> 03:11:58,080
like out at Tullamore and stuff that's

4180
03:11:58,080 --> 03:12:00,359
Ada approved the crushed concrete yes

4181
03:12:00,359 --> 03:12:03,000
it's a 88 that's Ada approved and that's

4182
03:12:03,000 --> 03:12:05,769
consistent

4183
03:12:05,779 --> 03:12:08,760
concrete sidewalk more concrete yeah

4184
03:12:08,760 --> 03:12:11,100
that's consistent with what we have

4185
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:13,920
you know our Parks development

4186
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:17,460
code if you will what we do so I'm with

4187
03:12:17,460 --> 03:12:19,200
Kim I'd much rather have our natural

4188
03:12:19,200 --> 03:12:21,720
trail system it's permeable it's more

4189
03:12:21,720 --> 03:12:25,140
natural it's consistent with what we do

4190
03:12:25,140 --> 03:12:28,140
um here is not our crushed concrete so I

4191
03:12:28,140 --> 03:12:30,180
don't know why this Trail hasn't been

4192
03:12:30,180 --> 03:12:31,979
done in our natural

4193
03:12:31,979 --> 03:12:34,200
crushed concrete surface stuff that's

4194
03:12:34,200 --> 03:12:35,040
like

4195
03:12:35,040 --> 03:12:37,930
gravel

4196
03:12:37,940 --> 03:12:39,920
[Music]

4197
03:12:39,920 --> 03:12:42,840
well I think I think part of what's

4198
03:12:42,840 --> 03:12:44,819
going on right there is is that they

4199
03:12:44,819 --> 03:12:47,460
were to grind and mix that stuff that

4200
03:12:47,460 --> 03:12:49,800
would be killing trees that are too

4201
03:12:49,800 --> 03:12:52,800
close and high up in that area so I

4202
03:12:52,800 --> 03:12:54,479
think they probably did a little bit of

4203
03:12:54,479 --> 03:12:56,819
fudging there just because of that once

4204
03:12:56,819 --> 03:12:58,200
this of course that's going to go away

4205
03:12:58,200 --> 03:13:01,080
anyway that's going to be redone so I'm

4206
03:13:01,080 --> 03:13:02,760
not too worried about that but for our

4207
03:13:02,760 --> 03:13:04,200
normal system

4208
03:13:04,200 --> 03:13:07,910
yeah I agree

4209
03:13:07,920 --> 03:13:10,380
okay well I I would like to know what

4210
03:13:10,380 --> 03:13:12,779
the concrete curbing is well it's in the

4211
03:13:12,779 --> 03:13:13,560
picture

4212
03:13:13,560 --> 03:13:16,080
it holds it all together if you look at

4213
03:13:16,080 --> 03:13:17,819
the playground you see that at that

4214
03:13:17,819 --> 03:13:19,560
outside edge is that concrete curbing

4215
03:13:19,560 --> 03:13:21,120
yeah what what do we have here but like

4216
03:13:21,120 --> 03:13:22,859
why are you having concrete curb around

4217
03:13:22,859 --> 03:13:25,740
like a place where kids are running

4218
03:13:25,740 --> 03:13:28,500
um I think it's structural

4219
03:13:28,500 --> 03:13:31,979
it holds their their surface

4220
03:13:31,979 --> 03:13:38,230
it holds their surface

4221
03:13:38,240 --> 03:13:42,240
drain it right there's no holes in the

4222
03:13:42,240 --> 03:13:44,279
concrete or drains in there then that's

4223
03:13:44,279 --> 03:13:45,840
just going to fill up with water is it

4224
03:13:45,840 --> 03:13:49,500
not if you did I mean at some point you

4225
03:13:49,500 --> 03:13:51,540
have to you have to trust the the

4226
03:13:51,540 --> 03:13:53,640
process I mean this is what these guys

4227
03:13:53,640 --> 03:13:55,620
do for a living everywhere if they had

4228
03:13:55,620 --> 03:13:58,380
problems with it being a pool then they

4229
03:13:58,380 --> 03:14:00,020
wouldn't stay in business long so

4230
03:14:00,020 --> 03:14:03,720
sometimes have to trust the experts she

4231
03:14:03,720 --> 03:14:05,939
can talk how it's constructed do you

4232
03:14:05,939 --> 03:14:08,399
want to hear from the vendor no I mean

4233
03:14:08,399 --> 03:14:10,680
if no just take care of that

4234
03:14:10,680 --> 03:14:12,979
okay I mean we're going to pick option C

4235
03:14:12,979 --> 03:14:15,420
it's a matter of

4236
03:14:15,420 --> 03:14:17,880
what are we gonna leave in what are we

4237
03:14:17,880 --> 03:14:30,070
going to take out

4238
03:14:30,080 --> 03:14:32,580
oh is he talking about us is he talking

4239
03:14:32,580 --> 03:14:36,680
yeah

4240
03:14:36,690 --> 03:14:40,140
[Laughter]

4241
03:14:40,140 --> 03:14:42,660
I'm working on it it's a trailer frame

4242
03:14:42,660 --> 03:14:44,939
okay

4243
03:14:44,939 --> 03:14:47,760
I mean I don't love this price I'm not

4244
03:14:47,760 --> 03:14:50,760
going to lie but I got a perfect place

4245
03:14:50,760 --> 03:14:54,290
for the uh but it is

4246
03:14:54,300 --> 03:14:56,040
you just have to play You're gonna have

4247
03:14:56,040 --> 03:14:58,920
to fight Joe for it

4248
03:14:58,920 --> 03:15:01,319
I'm saying I'll pull a trailer up there

4249
03:15:01,319 --> 03:15:03,300
and as they dispose it they can take it

4250
03:15:03,300 --> 03:15:05,100
out and they can just load it right up

4251
03:15:05,100 --> 03:15:06,660
on the trailer and then we can auction

4252
03:15:06,660 --> 03:15:09,840
it and if it auctions great if not I'll

4253
03:15:09,840 --> 03:15:12,180
pay you guys 100 right now and take it

4254
03:15:12,180 --> 03:15:13,700
out

4255
03:15:13,700 --> 03:15:17,700
I mean it's better than yeah then they

4256
03:15:17,700 --> 03:15:19,620
can't say we had nothing to do with it

4257
03:15:19,620 --> 03:15:22,020
just pull a tractor trailer up there and

4258
03:15:22,020 --> 03:15:24,359
say okay I'm gonna sit there here just

4259
03:15:24,359 --> 03:15:26,160
load it if you're gonna get rid of it

4260
03:15:26,160 --> 03:15:28,800
are you really getting rid of it because

4261
03:15:28,800 --> 03:15:30,779
if they're really demoing it they're

4262
03:15:30,779 --> 03:15:32,819
just taking a a tractor and they're

4263
03:15:32,819 --> 03:15:34,620
knocking everything down it goes to the

4264
03:15:34,620 --> 03:15:35,520
waste

4265
03:15:35,520 --> 03:15:37,680
but we'll have to see how they do it all

4266
03:15:37,680 --> 03:15:39,060
right well I'm going to make a motion to

4267
03:15:39,060 --> 03:15:44,269
approve option C as presented

4268
03:15:44,279 --> 03:15:48,120
oh minus the minus the concrete paths

4269
03:15:48,120 --> 03:15:50,640
and I want those to be our natural why

4270
03:15:50,640 --> 03:15:52,979
do we learn natural Trails I would have

4271
03:15:52,979 --> 03:15:56,150
them remove that

4272
03:15:56,160 --> 03:16:00,840
yep before we go further on this the

4273
03:16:00,840 --> 03:16:03,479
price tag is another hundred and thirty

4274
03:16:03,479 --> 03:16:04,620
some thousand what we've got

4275
03:16:04,620 --> 03:16:06,060
appropriated

4276
03:16:06,060 --> 03:16:08,399
how are we getting the rest of the money

4277
03:16:08,399 --> 03:16:10,380
Christina's gonna figure it out

4278
03:16:10,380 --> 03:16:12,240
she's she's going to work on I'm asking

4279
03:16:12,240 --> 03:16:13,500
Christina how we're going to get the

4280
03:16:13,500 --> 03:16:14,700
rest is going to work she's going to

4281
03:16:14,700 --> 03:16:17,700
work on our 10-year budget deficit

4282
03:16:17,700 --> 03:16:19,260
figure out and we'll have to do a fun

4283
03:16:19,260 --> 03:16:20,939
balance preparation or either pull from

4284
03:16:20,939 --> 03:16:22,560
one of your capital projects that you've

4285
03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:24,899
got PFA pull from in reserve or you can

4286
03:16:24,899 --> 03:16:26,520
go ahead and start pooling from that

4287
03:16:26,520 --> 03:16:28,620
five hundred thousand dollars well four

4288
03:16:28,620 --> 03:16:30,840
hundred thousand dollars now projects

4289
03:16:30,840 --> 03:16:32,460
for parks that we got from the

4290
03:16:32,460 --> 03:16:33,779
legislator that we've kind of

4291
03:16:33,779 --> 03:16:35,580
tentatively got earmarked over here you

4292
03:16:35,580 --> 03:16:38,880
have a finite time to spend that correct

4293
03:16:38,880 --> 03:16:42,180
we do but they did actually extend it

4294
03:16:42,180 --> 03:16:44,700
um but I mean it's there and it does

4295
03:16:44,700 --> 03:16:48,359
have an expiry date so I mean

4296
03:16:48,359 --> 03:16:50,640
it could take this over here years and

4297
03:16:50,640 --> 03:16:52,020
years so we may want to go ahead and

4298
03:16:52,020 --> 03:16:53,279
just start spinning that down so we

4299
03:16:53,279 --> 03:16:55,680
could pull it from there I I have to

4300
03:16:55,680 --> 03:16:57,359
agree with that I think that's a good

4301
03:16:57,359 --> 03:17:01,620
good idea motions on the table well I

4302
03:17:01,620 --> 03:17:04,859
further discussion I would just say I

4303
03:17:04,859 --> 03:17:07,080
would be hesitant to vote on this

4304
03:17:07,080 --> 03:17:09,300
without learning more about the

4305
03:17:09,300 --> 03:17:11,340
concrete and what would be the

4306
03:17:11,340 --> 03:17:14,100
replacement I did text her while you

4307
03:17:14,100 --> 03:17:15,779
guys are talking and she said they put

4308
03:17:15,779 --> 03:17:19,080
the concrete around just for a better

4309
03:17:19,080 --> 03:17:21,060
finished look so she's going to look at

4310
03:17:21,060 --> 03:17:23,520
different options

4311
03:17:23,520 --> 03:17:25,200
and send them to me that they do have to

4312
03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:26,520
have some type of border to hold the

4313
03:17:26,520 --> 03:17:28,500
stuff in but there are other options she

4314
03:17:28,500 --> 03:17:30,120
said she could use

4315
03:17:30,120 --> 03:17:32,580
okay but we definitely want the natural

4316
03:17:32,580 --> 03:17:34,680
Trail it's sort of like you buy a

4317
03:17:34,680 --> 03:17:36,779
McLaren and they say it comes with curb

4318
03:17:36,779 --> 03:17:38,340
feelers and you're not sure whether you

4319
03:17:38,340 --> 03:17:39,720
want the curb feelers or not we're

4320
03:17:39,720 --> 03:17:41,660
talking about the McLaren

4321
03:17:41,660 --> 03:17:45,000
the neighbor has one so that curbing was

4322
03:17:45,000 --> 03:17:49,620
about 12 000 okay so our biker just a

4323
03:17:49,620 --> 03:17:53,040
question our gang member so if we're not

4324
03:17:53,040 --> 03:17:54,540
if we're going to use our natural trail

4325
03:17:54,540 --> 03:17:56,340
system for the pathways instead of

4326
03:17:56,340 --> 03:17:58,920
concrete do we just omit that and have

4327
03:17:58,920 --> 03:18:01,740
our Trail Builder build those yes

4328
03:18:01,740 --> 03:18:04,490
okay

4329
03:18:04,500 --> 03:18:08,040
yes that way we have consistency so why

4330
03:18:08,040 --> 03:18:10,200
don't I need for why don't you all

4331
03:18:10,200 --> 03:18:12,060
approve that the total amount that's

4332
03:18:12,060 --> 03:18:14,399
listed here okay and then I can

4333
03:18:14,399 --> 03:18:16,439
negotiate a different border within that

4334
03:18:16,439 --> 03:18:19,439
same dollar amount or less and then

4335
03:18:19,439 --> 03:18:21,120
negotiate the trail with our current

4336
03:18:21,120 --> 03:18:24,420
Trail Builder or our

4337
03:18:24,420 --> 03:18:26,100
um

4338
03:18:26,100 --> 03:18:28,439
asphalt grading guy the guy that does

4339
03:18:28,439 --> 03:18:30,359
the all-inclusive stuff

4340
03:18:30,359 --> 03:18:32,040
but still keep the dollar amount the

4341
03:18:32,040 --> 03:18:33,660
same that way it gives me a level of

4342
03:18:33,660 --> 03:18:36,060
threshold to work with

4343
03:18:36,060 --> 03:18:39,000
concrete I want our crushed Trail yeah I

4344
03:18:39,000 --> 03:18:40,979
mean I'll I'll tell them we have specs

4345
03:18:40,979 --> 03:18:42,899
on that so I'll tell them either one of

4346
03:18:42,899 --> 03:18:45,120
them all right so I'm gonna redo my

4347
03:18:45,120 --> 03:18:47,399
motion sorry Austin

4348
03:18:47,399 --> 03:18:50,760
I'm going to amend my motion to we're

4349
03:18:50,760 --> 03:18:54,439
going to approve option C not to exceed

4350
03:18:54,439 --> 03:18:59,050
438 250 dollars

4351
03:18:59,060 --> 03:19:03,950
438 250.

4352
03:19:03,960 --> 03:19:07,140
and allow Christina to negotiate the

4353
03:19:07,140 --> 03:19:09,540
concrete

4354
03:19:09,540 --> 03:19:12,180
curb and paths

4355
03:19:12,180 --> 03:19:15,120
for alternates

4356
03:19:15,120 --> 03:19:17,040
yeah

4357
03:19:17,040 --> 03:19:19,500
further discussion

4358
03:19:19,500 --> 03:19:21,000
all in favor

4359
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:23,870
aye

4360
03:19:23,880 --> 03:19:25,560
all right next up we have consider

4361
03:19:25,560 --> 03:19:27,420
approval a change order from first try

4362
03:19:27,420 --> 03:19:31,380
on for geo 13. I went

4363
03:19:31,380 --> 03:19:35,690
discussion Geo

4364
03:19:35,700 --> 03:19:37,080
this was just going to be a few minutes

4365
03:19:37,080 --> 03:19:40,439
ago like three hours ago in a few

4366
03:19:40,439 --> 03:19:43,260
minutes yeah I don't know what happened

4367
03:19:43,260 --> 03:19:45,779
um so I've added this to the your agenda

4368
03:19:45,779 --> 03:19:48,359
packets we just got this the other day

4369
03:19:48,359 --> 03:19:50,700
um this is the rough schedule that we've

4370
03:19:50,700 --> 03:19:53,220
developed with a grant Sky our vendor

4371
03:19:53,220 --> 03:19:55,500
who we're going to be working on for the

4372
03:19:55,500 --> 03:19:58,680
education campaign at your next meeting

4373
03:19:58,680 --> 03:20:01,080
you'll be seeing you'll be seeing the

4374
03:20:01,080 --> 03:20:03,720
draft brand the draft logo for the

4375
03:20:03,720 --> 03:20:05,279
campaign it's

4376
03:20:05,279 --> 03:20:07,200
on purpose it's going to look different

4377
03:20:07,200 --> 03:20:09,779
than our recently adopted brand to

4378
03:20:09,779 --> 03:20:12,000
disassociate it a little bit with the

4379
03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:16,080
village because it's more than just

4380
03:20:16,080 --> 03:20:18,359
part of the government here

4381
03:20:18,359 --> 03:20:19,439
um so you're gonna be seeing those logos

4382
03:20:19,439 --> 03:20:21,240
at the next meeting and giving feedback

4383
03:20:21,240 --> 03:20:22,979
those are going to be finalized the week

4384
03:20:22,979 --> 03:20:25,319
after we're going to start developing

4385
03:20:25,319 --> 03:20:28,859
Flyers frequently asked questions

4386
03:20:28,859 --> 03:20:33,290
to go on our website

4387
03:20:33,300 --> 03:20:35,040
and it starts ramping up as we get

4388
03:20:35,040 --> 03:20:37,319
closer to the end of the year one change

4389
03:20:37,319 --> 03:20:40,020
from this schedule is they have our mini

4390
03:20:40,020 --> 03:20:43,920
site going live on December 18th we've

4391
03:20:43,920 --> 03:20:45,300
requested that to be pushed up to

4392
03:20:45,300 --> 03:20:48,620
December 1st to give residents more time

4393
03:20:48,620 --> 03:20:51,600
to test additional time to educate

4394
03:20:51,600 --> 03:20:53,819
residents through our website since that

4395
03:20:53,819 --> 03:20:55,680
seems to be one of our best mediums to

4396
03:20:55,680 --> 03:20:58,020
contact people so that site should be

4397
03:20:58,020 --> 03:20:59,700
going Live December 1st instead of the

4398
03:20:59,700 --> 03:21:00,920
18th

4399
03:21:00,920 --> 03:21:04,080
and really after that it's

4400
03:21:04,080 --> 03:21:06,359
it's laid out there

4401
03:21:06,359 --> 03:21:09,180
we'll be really ramping it up as we go

4402
03:21:09,180 --> 03:21:10,800
into the new year in advance of the

4403
03:21:10,800 --> 03:21:15,190
referendum

4404
03:21:15,200 --> 03:21:17,520
one of the things that I had mentioned

4405
03:21:17,520 --> 03:21:19,740
to Austin to make sure we're all on the

4406
03:21:19,740 --> 03:21:21,000
same page is there's going to have

4407
03:21:21,000 --> 03:21:23,340
there's really going to be very limited

4408
03:21:23,340 --> 03:21:25,200
opportunity for you all to review every

4409
03:21:25,200 --> 03:21:26,760
single little correspondence that goes

4410
03:21:26,760 --> 03:21:29,819
out a lot of the same

4411
03:21:29,819 --> 03:21:31,680
uh you basically we're going to see a

4412
03:21:31,680 --> 03:21:32,880
lot of the same stuff just done in

4413
03:21:32,880 --> 03:21:33,960
different templates and different

4414
03:21:33,960 --> 03:21:36,420
formats councilman line is looking

4415
03:21:36,420 --> 03:21:37,800
through a couple of different revisions

4416
03:21:37,800 --> 03:21:40,020
that they've done in the past this this

4417
03:21:40,020 --> 03:21:41,819
company so you can kind of see some of

4418
03:21:41,819 --> 03:21:43,319
the graphics of how they lay things out

4419
03:21:43,319 --> 03:21:45,120
like Austin mentioned they're going to

4420
03:21:45,120 --> 03:21:47,340
have like a logo for back lack of better

4421
03:21:47,340 --> 03:21:50,880
words that is specifically for this

4422
03:21:50,880 --> 03:21:53,279
concept did you need any feedback from

4423
03:21:53,279 --> 03:21:54,960
them on what they what elements they

4424
03:21:54,960 --> 03:21:56,580
wanted to see in that are we going to do

4425
03:21:56,580 --> 03:21:58,140
that later we're going to bring that low

4426
03:21:58,140 --> 03:21:59,640
they'll see the draft logo at their next

4427
03:21:59,640 --> 03:22:01,260
meeting they'll get one pass at it then

4428
03:22:01,260 --> 03:22:02,580
we have to finalize it so we can get

4429
03:22:02,580 --> 03:22:04,560
production rolling okay

4430
03:22:04,560 --> 03:22:06,710
um

4431
03:22:06,720 --> 03:22:10,979
there will be male components yes can we

4432
03:22:10,979 --> 03:22:14,100
in some of this education materials can

4433
03:22:14,100 --> 03:22:15,479
we talk about

4434
03:22:15,479 --> 03:22:25,670
like

4435
03:22:25,680 --> 03:22:27,060
I don't know if I want to go down that

4436
03:22:27,060 --> 03:22:28,439
road

4437
03:22:28,439 --> 03:22:30,359
I was going to say can we talk about how

4438
03:22:30,359 --> 03:22:31,800
like it would help

4439
03:22:31,800 --> 03:22:33,300
some of these neighborhoods it would be

4440
03:22:33,300 --> 03:22:35,640
a great idea to Annex in because you

4441
03:22:35,640 --> 03:22:37,920
would we would be able to do more stuff

4442
03:22:37,920 --> 03:22:39,600
for your neighborhoods

4443
03:22:39,600 --> 03:22:41,819
if you and then send them to some of

4444
03:22:41,819 --> 03:22:43,140
these neighborhoods we'd like to see

4445
03:22:43,140 --> 03:22:45,300
annexed in I don't know if that makes

4446
03:22:45,300 --> 03:22:47,279
sense or not I don't think that's within

4447
03:22:47,279 --> 03:22:49,800
the current scope of the project budget

4448
03:22:49,800 --> 03:22:52,380
wise because

4449
03:22:52,380 --> 03:22:54,479
I think the mail the mailing budget is

4450
03:22:54,479 --> 03:22:56,880
based on residents Target voters and

4451
03:22:56,880 --> 03:22:58,859
residents okay so that boy if we did

4452
03:22:58,859 --> 03:23:00,420
something like that that might be a

4453
03:23:00,420 --> 03:23:01,979
change order or that might be something

4454
03:23:01,979 --> 03:23:04,319
separate we do later okay are they

4455
03:23:04,319 --> 03:23:06,060
coming to the next meeting

4456
03:23:06,060 --> 03:23:07,620
saying is yes they should be at the next

4457
03:23:07,620 --> 03:23:09,239
meeting so that's a question we can ask

4458
03:23:09,239 --> 03:23:10,920
them if they can guess does that make

4459
03:23:10,920 --> 03:23:13,620
sense like I get what you're saying but

4460
03:23:13,620 --> 03:23:14,939
should we even think about that because

4461
03:23:14,939 --> 03:23:16,680
I also don't want to necessarily be like

4462
03:23:16,680 --> 03:23:18,120
oh well hey we're going to do some stuff

4463
03:23:18,120 --> 03:23:19,620
for some non-residents I mean we're

4464
03:23:19,620 --> 03:23:21,660
going to have to in order to do some for

4465
03:23:21,660 --> 03:23:24,899
the residents but you you guys choosing

4466
03:23:24,899 --> 03:23:27,180
to offer the

4467
03:23:27,180 --> 03:23:29,640
the assessment for private roads that's

4468
03:23:29,640 --> 03:23:31,080
going to be an incentive to get a couple

4469
03:23:31,080 --> 03:23:33,180
neighborhoods one of the negatives yeah

4470
03:23:33,180 --> 03:23:35,279
but those are in Marvin that's not if

4471
03:23:35,279 --> 03:23:36,779
someone annexes they become in Marvin

4472
03:23:36,779 --> 03:23:37,859
yeah but I don't know how many

4473
03:23:37,859 --> 03:23:40,080
neighborhoods we have that one of the

4474
03:23:40,080 --> 03:23:41,580
negative components that could be

4475
03:23:41,580 --> 03:23:43,859
perceived as negative um would be that

4476
03:23:43,859 --> 03:23:45,060
they would have to pay that additional

4477
03:23:45,060 --> 03:23:47,160
tax and therefore right they probably

4478
03:23:47,160 --> 03:23:49,620
wouldn't be willing to Annex if they

4479
03:23:49,620 --> 03:23:50,580
knew

4480
03:23:50,580 --> 03:23:52,680
the additional tax would be coming okay

4481
03:23:52,680 --> 03:23:55,200
that's just okay

4482
03:23:55,200 --> 03:23:57,239
so but I just wanted to make sure that

4483
03:23:57,239 --> 03:23:58,260
y'all understood like there's going to

4484
03:23:58,260 --> 03:23:59,880
be a very limited opportunity for us to

4485
03:23:59,880 --> 03:24:02,279
provide input into very specific things

4486
03:24:02,279 --> 03:24:04,500
and once things goes out like they're we

4487
03:24:04,500 --> 03:24:07,200
can't we can't redact them like they

4488
03:24:07,200 --> 03:24:08,819
are they coming to our regular meeting

4489
03:24:08,819 --> 03:24:12,479
unring the Bell oh yeah yeah I need to

4490
03:24:12,479 --> 03:24:13,680
confirm with them but that was the

4491
03:24:13,680 --> 03:24:14,700
original plan for them to be at the next

4492
03:24:14,700 --> 03:24:16,520
meeting

4493
03:24:16,520 --> 03:24:19,160
what regular meeting

4494
03:24:19,160 --> 03:24:22,260
we have to stay on schedule

4495
03:24:22,260 --> 03:24:23,399
uh

4496
03:24:23,399 --> 03:24:25,319
so as you see some of the stuff that's

4497
03:24:25,319 --> 03:24:26,520
being passed around that's kind of the

4498
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:28,319
same thing that you would see in this

4499
03:24:28,319 --> 03:24:30,000
context

4500
03:24:30,000 --> 03:24:32,279
um us and if you could ask them if they

4501
03:24:32,279 --> 03:24:34,380
could actually bring examples when they

4502
03:24:34,380 --> 03:24:35,460
do come

4503
03:24:35,460 --> 03:24:36,899
and even if there's a way they can kind

4504
03:24:36,899 --> 03:24:39,600
of tie them into some of our stuff and

4505
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:40,800
that way that you guys have the

4506
03:24:40,800 --> 03:24:42,600
opportunity to at least see what we're

4507
03:24:42,600 --> 03:24:44,279
looking at and what's going to be fed to

4508
03:24:44,279 --> 03:24:46,739
the public so if y'all want to start

4509
03:24:46,739 --> 03:24:48,180
making some changes or if there's some

4510
03:24:48,180 --> 03:24:49,680
something specific you want to see then

4511
03:24:49,680 --> 03:24:51,000
we can make those

4512
03:24:51,000 --> 03:24:52,500
those things at that point in time

4513
03:24:52,500 --> 03:24:53,760
because we're not going to once we start

4514
03:24:53,760 --> 03:24:55,319
we're just not going to have a whole lot

4515
03:24:55,319 --> 03:24:58,020
of time to review things as we have done

4516
03:24:58,020 --> 03:25:07,370
in the past with other things

4517
03:25:07,380 --> 03:25:09,300
yeah all right next up consider approval

4518
03:25:09,300 --> 03:25:11,939
change order from first try to for geo

4519
03:25:11,939 --> 03:25:15,590
Bond advertisement

4520
03:25:15,600 --> 03:25:18,300
at a cost not to exceed thirteen

4521
03:25:18,300 --> 03:25:19,739
thousand dollars on Direct staff to

4522
03:25:19,739 --> 03:25:25,190
prepare budget men so moved

4523
03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:27,660
no I mean it's just we we're using them

4524
03:25:27,660 --> 03:25:29,880
a lot more throughout the process than

4525
03:25:29,880 --> 03:25:31,680
we in participate we can wrap that into

4526
03:25:31,680 --> 03:25:34,380
the bond price and yeah we can drop it

4527
03:25:34,380 --> 03:25:36,180
to bond price if it approved if it if

4528
03:25:36,180 --> 03:25:37,979
it's approved if it's not we just we

4529
03:25:37,979 --> 03:25:40,080
have to absorb it internally so we will

4530
03:25:40,080 --> 03:25:42,359
likely do a budget amendment from

4531
03:25:42,359 --> 03:25:45,120
contingency if contingencies available

4532
03:25:45,120 --> 03:25:48,710
or it'll have to be a fund balance

4533
03:25:48,720 --> 03:25:50,279
all right stop okay oh we got a there's

4534
03:25:50,279 --> 03:25:53,520
a motion on the floor there is yes she

4535
03:25:53,520 --> 03:26:00,590
said so moved sorry

4536
03:26:00,600 --> 03:26:02,580
I see the looks that Austin is giving

4537
03:26:02,580 --> 03:26:04,680
you right now it is amazing I'm very

4538
03:26:04,680 --> 03:26:07,260
expressive today

4539
03:26:07,260 --> 03:26:10,979
all right open topics I have one all

4540
03:26:10,979 --> 03:26:16,080
right so before me is

4541
03:26:16,080 --> 03:26:19,640
um House Bill 488 session law

4542
03:26:19,640 --> 03:26:23,880
2023-108 Jeff Perry Monroe uh read some

4543
03:26:23,880 --> 03:26:26,580
some of the excerpts from this bill at

4544
03:26:26,580 --> 03:26:28,800
the loom meeting and had some concerns

4545
03:26:28,800 --> 03:26:30,840
with some of the changes that were done

4546
03:26:30,840 --> 03:26:32,760
in this I would encourage

4547
03:26:32,760 --> 03:26:34,439
that

4548
03:26:34,439 --> 03:26:36,779
Council read this

4549
03:26:36,779 --> 03:26:38,520
bill

4550
03:26:38,520 --> 03:26:40,739
through and be familiar with some of the

4551
03:26:40,739 --> 03:26:43,450
changes

4552
03:26:43,460 --> 03:26:47,220
and this is already passed yes this has

4553
03:26:47,220 --> 03:26:49,080
been passed it was passed just recently

4554
03:26:49,080 --> 03:26:52,680
a couple weeks ago so there's there are

4555
03:26:52,680 --> 03:26:55,260
some changes one of the one of the

4556
03:26:55,260 --> 03:26:57,960
changes of note that I'm looking at here

4557
03:26:57,960 --> 03:27:00,239
is to amend the residential code to

4558
03:27:00,239 --> 03:27:02,700
include three and four family dwellings

4559
03:27:02,700 --> 03:27:07,020
and basically this is kind of a

4560
03:27:07,020 --> 03:27:11,110
safety issue

4561
03:27:11,120 --> 03:27:14,460
they're not requiring greater than a two

4562
03:27:14,460 --> 03:27:17,520
hour fire resistance and or or automatic

4563
03:27:17,520 --> 03:27:19,920
sprinkler systems which is previously

4564
03:27:19,920 --> 03:27:21,840
been required for three and four

4565
03:27:21,840 --> 03:27:25,319
dwelling or three three and four

4566
03:27:25,319 --> 03:27:26,880
uh

4567
03:27:26,880 --> 03:27:30,300
family dwellings for safety reasons so

4568
03:27:30,300 --> 03:27:32,340
I'm assuming this was something that was

4569
03:27:32,340 --> 03:27:34,319
pushed through by the uh

4570
03:27:34,319 --> 03:27:37,680
the Builders Association to save cost

4571
03:27:37,680 --> 03:27:39,779
um there are a couple of things that

4572
03:27:39,779 --> 03:27:42,359
refer to driveway paving and different

4573
03:27:42,359 --> 03:27:43,880
things like that

4574
03:27:43,880 --> 03:27:46,819
changing of the uh

4575
03:27:46,819 --> 03:27:48,960
minimums for

4576
03:27:48,960 --> 03:27:51,420
um having to get a permit for

4577
03:27:51,420 --> 03:27:54,540
upgrading properties and such so

4578
03:27:54,540 --> 03:27:55,140
um

4579
03:27:55,140 --> 03:27:57,060
can you repeat that house

4580
03:27:57,060 --> 03:28:00,899
it's the house bill 488

4581
03:28:00,899 --> 03:28:02,359
session law

4582
03:28:02,359 --> 03:28:04,560
2023-108 yeah

4583
03:28:04,560 --> 03:28:09,410
say that again session law 2023-108

4584
03:28:09,420 --> 03:28:11,819
about what 32 Pages or something like

4585
03:28:11,819 --> 03:28:13,979
that something like that

4586
03:28:13,979 --> 03:28:16,969
um

4587
03:28:16,979 --> 03:28:18,779
yeah I mean I just don't know how he

4588
03:28:18,779 --> 03:28:20,819
didn't hear about this I mean this is

4589
03:28:20,819 --> 03:28:23,040
bad it

4590
03:28:23,040 --> 03:28:25,800
I mean it's stuff that just kind of

4591
03:28:25,800 --> 03:28:27,779
gets sent through and

4592
03:28:27,779 --> 03:28:29,819
this is I mean it was kind of a

4593
03:28:29,819 --> 03:28:31,979
knee-jerk reaction because we weren't

4594
03:28:31,979 --> 03:28:33,720
aware of it and then

4595
03:28:33,720 --> 03:28:34,800
um

4596
03:28:34,800 --> 03:28:37,319
Jeff found out about it and brought it

4597
03:28:37,319 --> 03:28:39,600
up at Uma there are some some concerns

4598
03:28:39,600 --> 03:28:41,700
in there regarding

4599
03:28:41,700 --> 03:28:44,210
um

4600
03:28:44,220 --> 03:28:47,870
update so

4601
03:28:47,880 --> 03:28:49,380
yes and

4602
03:28:49,380 --> 03:28:52,260
and This concerns me as well with being

4603
03:28:52,260 --> 03:28:55,680
a republican super majority whatever the

4604
03:28:55,680 --> 03:28:57,540
Republican party wants basically goes

4605
03:28:57,540 --> 03:28:59,220
through

4606
03:28:59,220 --> 03:29:01,500
um at this point because they override

4607
03:29:01,500 --> 03:29:05,580
The veto the governor so

4608
03:29:05,580 --> 03:29:07,560
um it is a little concerning that

4609
03:29:07,560 --> 03:29:09,000
they're just changing some things like

4610
03:29:09,000 --> 03:29:10,680
this

4611
03:29:10,680 --> 03:29:12,239
we may just want to pass this along to

4612
03:29:12,239 --> 03:29:13,620
chaplain and see what his interpretation

4613
03:29:13,620 --> 03:29:16,859
is for the implications yeah

4614
03:29:16,859 --> 03:29:18,300
okay I mean I think we should do that

4615
03:29:18,300 --> 03:29:19,620
obviously we need to reach out to our

4616
03:29:19,620 --> 03:29:21,779
reps and find out like what's going on

4617
03:29:21,779 --> 03:29:23,760
yeah I would just say some of this stuff

4618
03:29:23,760 --> 03:29:25,680
so I mean there are a couple things that

4619
03:29:25,680 --> 03:29:27,899
do make sense but like that that thing

4620
03:29:27,899 --> 03:29:30,000
to me from

4621
03:29:30,000 --> 03:29:32,279
and this was also raised at the Wilma

4622
03:29:32,279 --> 03:29:34,979
meeting is the safety issue when you

4623
03:29:34,979 --> 03:29:37,100
have multiple family

4624
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:40,319
buildings and you start rescinding some

4625
03:29:40,319 --> 03:29:42,540
of these safety requirements that's

4626
03:29:42,540 --> 03:29:45,000
that's a red flag to me I don't think

4627
03:29:45,000 --> 03:29:47,880
that that we should be getting less safe

4628
03:29:47,880 --> 03:29:50,819
I think we should be more safe if

4629
03:29:50,819 --> 03:29:55,610
anything so

4630
03:29:55,620 --> 03:29:58,620
multiple multiple family dwelling

4631
03:29:58,620 --> 03:30:01,739
multiple family dwellings right yes so

4632
03:30:01,739 --> 03:30:03,600
these are these are triplexes and quad

4633
03:30:03,600 --> 03:30:06,060
plexes they don't necessarily apply to

4634
03:30:06,060 --> 03:30:08,580
Marvin at this stage because we don't

4635
03:30:08,580 --> 03:30:11,760
have these but it's the premise I mean

4636
03:30:11,760 --> 03:30:13,500
it's like it's they're relaxing some

4637
03:30:13,500 --> 03:30:15,300
safety standards in the in the building

4638
03:30:15,300 --> 03:30:17,520
codes which

4639
03:30:17,520 --> 03:30:19,979
is troublesome that's just one example

4640
03:30:19,979 --> 03:30:21,180
there are several different things that

4641
03:30:21,180 --> 03:30:22,979
they change there's 32 pages of changes

4642
03:30:22,979 --> 03:30:26,340
so developer friendly

4643
03:30:26,340 --> 03:30:27,899
it seems to be

4644
03:30:27,899 --> 03:30:28,560
um

4645
03:30:28,560 --> 03:30:31,500
there are some removing some standards

4646
03:30:31,500 --> 03:30:32,460
on

4647
03:30:32,460 --> 03:30:34,680
private roads and stuff like that too so

4648
03:30:34,680 --> 03:30:36,120
these are things that we need to

4649
03:30:36,120 --> 03:30:37,380
consider

4650
03:30:37,380 --> 03:30:40,500
if we're adopting

4651
03:30:40,500 --> 03:30:42,840
you know taking on any any privately

4652
03:30:42,840 --> 03:30:49,010
constructed driveways and such

4653
03:30:49,020 --> 03:30:55,969
of it

4654
03:30:55,979 --> 03:30:59,080
okay anything else

4655
03:30:59,080 --> 03:31:01,800
[Music]

4656
03:31:01,800 --> 03:31:11,150
I think so

4657
03:31:11,160 --> 03:31:16,389
clean up some emails while we're away

4658
03:31:16,399 --> 03:31:20,100
you had another one yesterday

4659
03:31:20,100 --> 03:31:21,960
did I have another one

4660
03:31:21,960 --> 03:31:25,309
who's that I remember

4661
03:31:25,319 --> 03:31:28,790
uh

4662
03:31:28,800 --> 03:31:30,479
radar size

4663
03:31:30,479 --> 03:31:32,220
hmm

4664
03:31:32,220 --> 03:31:36,720
radar signs radar oh yes

4665
03:31:36,720 --> 03:31:38,399
um while you guys are figuring that out

4666
03:31:38,399 --> 03:31:39,779
I have one more

4667
03:31:39,779 --> 03:31:47,809
topic to uh to bring up

4668
03:31:47,819 --> 03:31:50,640
okay so I have one more uh one more item

4669
03:31:50,640 --> 03:31:52,800
to bring up Christina reminded me we had

4670
03:31:52,800 --> 03:31:54,800
discussed this the other day

4671
03:31:54,800 --> 03:31:59,399
it's been suggested to us

4672
03:31:59,399 --> 03:32:02,040
by our deputies that we consider a

4673
03:32:02,040 --> 03:32:05,479
couple more of our radar signs

4674
03:32:05,479 --> 03:32:09,120
that for Joe Carr Road and Marvin School

4675
03:32:09,120 --> 03:32:10,939
Road

4676
03:32:10,939 --> 03:32:13,800
they do seem to be working for their

4677
03:32:13,800 --> 03:32:17,399
intended purpose but there are issues

4678
03:32:17,399 --> 03:32:18,779
with

4679
03:32:18,779 --> 03:32:21,000
excessive speeding on both those

4680
03:32:21,000 --> 03:32:23,580
thoroughfares and

4681
03:32:23,580 --> 03:32:25,500
so I wanted to bring it up to you all if

4682
03:32:25,500 --> 03:32:27,060
you thought that we should entertain

4683
03:32:27,060 --> 03:32:28,680
looking at

4684
03:32:28,680 --> 03:32:31,319
acquiring two more of those

4685
03:32:31,319 --> 03:32:33,180
signs and placing them out there on

4686
03:32:33,180 --> 03:32:35,580
those two thoroughfares

4687
03:32:35,580 --> 03:32:37,500
um I would be

4688
03:32:37,500 --> 03:32:39,960
open to that because we know those are

4689
03:32:39,960 --> 03:32:42,060
two thoroughfares that are also over

4690
03:32:42,060 --> 03:32:43,319
this high

4691
03:32:43,319 --> 03:32:45,300
speeding but

4692
03:32:45,300 --> 03:32:48,120
I've since then you know traveling

4693
03:32:48,120 --> 03:32:51,359
around I've seen different signs

4694
03:32:51,359 --> 03:32:53,520
um I don't know

4695
03:32:53,520 --> 03:32:56,100
just curious I don't know if the one on

4696
03:32:56,100 --> 03:32:57,660
Marvin Road

4697
03:32:57,660 --> 03:33:00,720
is so effective it's slowing down I mean

4698
03:33:00,720 --> 03:33:04,380
it look as people I the one that always

4699
03:33:04,380 --> 03:33:06,600
got my attention was the one on Johnston

4700
03:33:06,600 --> 03:33:08,939
Road as you're going into and towards

4701
03:33:08,939 --> 03:33:10,140
Carmel

4702
03:33:10,140 --> 03:33:14,340
but I've also seen the one that is if

4703
03:33:14,340 --> 03:33:15,600
anybody has seen it going down

4704
03:33:15,600 --> 03:33:18,140
independence from Matthews

4705
03:33:18,140 --> 03:33:21,840
going down going towards Charlotte

4706
03:33:21,840 --> 03:33:24,540
they have one that absolutely from a

4707
03:33:24,540 --> 03:33:26,640
distance looks like blue lights from the

4708
03:33:26,640 --> 03:33:28,080
top of a

4709
03:33:28,080 --> 03:33:29,420
police car

4710
03:33:29,420 --> 03:33:33,479
and when you're riding it's just I mean

4711
03:33:33,479 --> 03:33:35,340
it's like oh my gosh and the first thing

4712
03:33:35,340 --> 03:33:37,460
hits you is somebody's been pulled over

4713
03:33:37,460 --> 03:33:39,840
and then the lights get your attention

4714
03:33:39,840 --> 03:33:42,600
then it has you know what your speed is

4715
03:33:42,600 --> 03:33:45,359
so I don't I would be open to maybe a

4716
03:33:45,359 --> 03:33:47,640
different sign depends on the cost of

4717
03:33:47,640 --> 03:33:49,380
course but

4718
03:33:49,380 --> 03:33:52,140
um that's my

4719
03:33:52,140 --> 03:33:54,420
you know opinion about it there there

4720
03:33:54,420 --> 03:33:57,180
was also a suggestion and it may or may

4721
03:33:57,180 --> 03:33:58,680
not be

4722
03:33:58,680 --> 03:34:01,859
correct but Ed had also mentioned that

4723
03:34:01,859 --> 03:34:04,500
he thought that those signs were capable

4724
03:34:04,500 --> 03:34:07,080
of reading speeds in both directions but

4725
03:34:07,080 --> 03:34:10,319
only displaying the one that you can see

4726
03:34:10,319 --> 03:34:12,359
for Diagnostic purposes for law

4727
03:34:12,359 --> 03:34:14,840
enforcement to be able to enforce

4728
03:34:14,840 --> 03:34:18,060
I'd like to look into that as well if

4729
03:34:18,060 --> 03:34:20,880
our signs are capable of that and if not

4730
03:34:20,880 --> 03:34:23,460
the ones that we may purchase in the

4731
03:34:23,460 --> 03:34:26,220
future if they may be if we can make

4732
03:34:26,220 --> 03:34:27,779
sure that they're they're capable of

4733
03:34:27,779 --> 03:34:30,479
doing that because there's really

4734
03:34:30,479 --> 03:34:33,420
nothing better than having that data for

4735
03:34:33,420 --> 03:34:35,399
our law enforcement to be able to do

4736
03:34:35,399 --> 03:34:38,880
their job it helps them traumatically so

4737
03:34:38,880 --> 03:34:40,920
um you're talking about

4738
03:34:40,920 --> 03:34:42,420
you're talking about the mobile one

4739
03:34:42,420 --> 03:34:44,640
right no the the permanent ones that are

4740
03:34:44,640 --> 03:34:45,779
oh you're talking about the permanent

4741
03:34:45,779 --> 03:34:48,960
ones and the the speeds if I mean if you

4742
03:34:48,960 --> 03:34:52,739
if you compare those speeds

4743
03:34:52,739 --> 03:34:55,500
um maximum speeds and and the amount of

4744
03:34:55,500 --> 03:34:58,380
speeding from when we first installed

4745
03:34:58,380 --> 03:35:00,540
those to what we're getting now

4746
03:35:00,540 --> 03:35:02,939
the maximum speeds have dropped by 20

4747
03:35:02,939 --> 03:35:04,380
miles per hour

4748
03:35:04,380 --> 03:35:07,620
because we were seeing 109 100 and

4749
03:35:07,620 --> 03:35:09,660
whatever now we're down to 85 for Max

4750
03:35:09,660 --> 03:35:12,600
speeds so they are I think they're

4751
03:35:12,600 --> 03:35:15,960
walking I think they're like

4752
03:35:15,960 --> 03:35:17,520
because they've been consistently going

4753
03:35:17,520 --> 03:35:19,979
down so I I could tell you that

4754
03:35:19,979 --> 03:35:23,819
listening to constituents that

4755
03:35:23,819 --> 03:35:26,520
speed trap that they set up on Newtown

4756
03:35:26,520 --> 03:35:27,899
Road

4757
03:35:27,899 --> 03:35:30,899
uh two weeks ago three weeks ago that

4758
03:35:30,899 --> 03:35:33,180
had all the deputies out there got

4759
03:35:33,180 --> 03:35:35,819
everybody's attention everybody thought

4760
03:35:35,819 --> 03:35:39,060
what the heck and I I heard from a lot

4761
03:35:39,060 --> 03:35:40,979
of people like you know obviously Union

4762
03:35:40,979 --> 03:35:43,620
counties wanted to pad their their uh

4763
03:35:43,620 --> 03:35:45,420
sheriff department wants to pad their

4764
03:35:45,420 --> 03:35:47,100
pockets and all this kind of stuff what

4765
03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:48,960
kind of Sting was this but it got

4766
03:35:48,960 --> 03:35:51,120
everybody's attention yeah I heard a lot

4767
03:35:51,120 --> 03:35:52,800
of animals think I don't know if it's

4768
03:35:52,800 --> 03:35:54,060
substitute

4769
03:35:54,060 --> 03:35:56,640
you know also I don't mind us being a

4770
03:35:56,640 --> 03:35:58,160
speed trap

4771
03:35:58,160 --> 03:36:00,540
I'd rather see something instead of

4772
03:36:00,540 --> 03:36:02,040
something permanent you know we have

4773
03:36:02,040 --> 03:36:04,140
enough sign pollution as there is I'll

4774
03:36:04,140 --> 03:36:06,359
call it sign pollution especially in a

4775
03:36:06,359 --> 03:36:11,450
rural area

4776
03:36:11,460 --> 03:36:13,319
um so I would rather get something that

4777
03:36:13,319 --> 03:36:17,100
if we start to see problems we drag out

4778
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:20,880
a mobile sign and park it and it stays

4779
03:36:20,880 --> 03:36:25,260
at the E for Park and we have one well

4780
03:36:25,260 --> 03:36:29,110
then if we have one

4781
03:36:29,120 --> 03:36:32,340
it gets moved around but one the thing

4782
03:36:32,340 --> 03:36:34,560
about it is it's not it's not there all

4783
03:36:34,560 --> 03:36:36,840
the time and my point is is that the

4784
03:36:36,840 --> 03:36:38,399
ones that are permanent are actually

4785
03:36:38,399 --> 03:36:40,200
making an impact because people's

4786
03:36:40,200 --> 03:36:42,540
they're they're recording it that's what

4787
03:36:42,540 --> 03:36:44,399
is in your packet every month when they

4788
03:36:44,399 --> 03:36:46,020
do the deputies report and the the

4789
03:36:46,020 --> 03:36:47,880
speeds have come down

4790
03:36:47,880 --> 03:36:50,040
the max speeds have come down the

4791
03:36:50,040 --> 03:36:52,680
average speeds have come down so it

4792
03:36:52,680 --> 03:36:54,060
seems to me that they're making an

4793
03:36:54,060 --> 03:36:57,960
impact and especially Joe Carr Road and

4794
03:36:57,960 --> 03:36:59,399
if you talk to our deputies they write

4795
03:36:59,399 --> 03:37:00,779
more tickets on Joe Carter Road than

4796
03:37:00,779 --> 03:37:02,819
anywhere else in the village

4797
03:37:02,819 --> 03:37:06,469
so I think that

4798
03:37:06,479 --> 03:37:08,220
um you know I think it's worth

4799
03:37:08,220 --> 03:37:13,250
considering I think uh you know

4800
03:37:13,260 --> 03:37:16,620
I'm not sure how much we spent on those

4801
03:37:16,620 --> 03:37:19,800
and I'm not sure how much they are now

4802
03:37:19,800 --> 03:37:22,500
but they do seem to be making an impact

4803
03:37:22,500 --> 03:37:26,040
so we can add it to the agenda I think

4804
03:37:26,040 --> 03:37:29,399
and for actual discussion but uh in the

4805
03:37:29,399 --> 03:37:31,080
purpose of time I think

4806
03:37:31,080 --> 03:37:32,819
we'll just note that and yeah that's

4807
03:37:32,819 --> 03:37:34,080
right possibly just wanted to bring it

4808
03:37:34,080 --> 03:37:35,279
up anything else

4809
03:37:35,279 --> 03:37:37,859
um no not for open topics but I need to

4810
03:37:37,859 --> 03:37:40,739
go back to item number 12.

4811
03:37:40,739 --> 03:37:42,920
right which is allowed

4812
03:37:42,920 --> 03:37:47,220
can you do that okay so I need to add I

4813
03:37:47,220 --> 03:37:48,899
need to make an additional motion sorry

4814
03:37:48,899 --> 03:37:51,239
I missed it this is back back to the

4815
03:37:51,239 --> 03:37:53,640
playground playground yeah so I need to

4816
03:37:53,640 --> 03:37:55,979
make a motion to authorize the manager

4817
03:37:55,979 --> 03:37:58,500
to execute the agreement I didn't do

4818
03:37:58,500 --> 03:37:59,580
that sorry

4819
03:37:59,580 --> 03:38:01,260
oh that would be important that'd be

4820
03:38:01,260 --> 03:38:04,670
important

4821
03:38:04,680 --> 03:38:07,080
all in favor I know I'm thinking of

4822
03:38:07,080 --> 03:38:09,840
further discussion because I

4823
03:38:09,840 --> 03:38:12,359
but I'm not going to go down that road

4824
03:38:12,359 --> 03:38:15,779
um I've said my piece I'm so pissed

4825
03:38:15,779 --> 03:38:18,120
um were you pissed about that they're

4826
03:38:18,120 --> 03:38:20,220
they're playing this game where okay we

4827
03:38:20,220 --> 03:38:22,560
can figure that out later I don't know

4828
03:38:22,560 --> 03:38:28,610
if you can't you agree with us but

4829
03:38:28,620 --> 03:38:30,960
agreed to the amount of money Christina

4830
03:38:30,960 --> 03:38:33,060
can still work on the negotiations yeah

4831
03:38:33,060 --> 03:38:36,840
we haven't spent the money yet okay

4832
03:38:36,840 --> 03:38:44,769
um we're going back to where you lost

4833
03:38:44,779 --> 03:38:47,340
all right uh your list is in there as

4834
03:38:47,340 --> 03:38:50,399
usual actually it's not nothing in there

4835
03:38:50,399 --> 03:38:52,319
it's actually not I apologize I must

4836
03:38:52,319 --> 03:38:53,939
have forgot to attach it

4837
03:38:53,939 --> 03:38:56,460
um I will pull it up we got nothing

4838
03:38:56,460 --> 03:39:00,590
I'm slack you put it up on the screen

4839
03:39:00,600 --> 03:39:02,640
we stopped communicating

4840
03:39:02,640 --> 03:39:06,239
um I'll pull it up on my screen here

4841
03:39:06,239 --> 03:39:14,600
um sorry

4842
03:39:14,610 --> 03:39:20,090
[Laughter]

4843
03:39:20,100 --> 03:39:23,520
I'm pulling up on the screen

4844
03:39:23,520 --> 03:39:26,640
there it is all right okay so

4845
03:39:26,640 --> 03:39:29,460
um the Geo Bond stuff is separate we

4846
03:39:29,460 --> 03:39:31,380
have continual

4847
03:39:31,380 --> 03:39:33,720
we have continual reminders going out

4848
03:39:33,720 --> 03:39:35,359
about the roundabout and road closure

4849
03:39:35,359 --> 03:39:37,680
we're advertising the bulk drop-off

4850
03:39:37,680 --> 03:39:40,500
event pretty much every week now the

4851
03:39:40,500 --> 03:39:42,779
candidate questionnaire interviews town

4852
03:39:42,779 --> 03:39:44,220
hall meeting promotions are starting

4853
03:39:44,220 --> 03:39:46,380
trick or treat promotions are starting

4854
03:39:46,380 --> 03:39:48,420
and then you have all the normal things

4855
03:39:48,420 --> 03:39:50,520
such as your meeting notices school

4856
03:39:50,520 --> 03:39:54,120
closures coffee with counsel wuma Labor

4857
03:39:54,120 --> 03:40:00,769
Day trash delays associated with Labor

4858
03:40:00,779 --> 03:40:04,070
that's pretty much all I got

4859
03:40:04,080 --> 03:40:06,779
stable can we add something to send out

4860
03:40:06,779 --> 03:40:08,700
to the residents and hopefully maybe the

4861
03:40:08,700 --> 03:40:10,140
residents will send it out to their

4862
03:40:10,140 --> 03:40:13,319
friends and post it on social media

4863
03:40:13,319 --> 03:40:15,060
um

4864
03:40:15,060 --> 03:40:17,700
to

4865
03:40:17,700 --> 03:40:21,479
please not drive through the roundabout

4866
03:40:21,479 --> 03:40:23,340
that is under construction because it

4867
03:40:23,340 --> 03:40:25,080
will cause delays

4868
03:40:25,080 --> 03:40:27,779
and the village will be on the hook for

4869
03:40:27,779 --> 03:40:29,880
those delays and overruns because that's

4870
03:40:29,880 --> 03:40:31,920
not their fault

4871
03:40:31,920 --> 03:40:33,779
it's not the contractor's fault if they

4872
03:40:33,779 --> 03:40:36,000
have to go in and fix stuff so that's

4873
03:40:36,000 --> 03:40:37,520
going to be on us

4874
03:40:37,520 --> 03:40:42,359
and there's a huge fine for it yeah it's

4875
03:40:42,359 --> 03:40:43,979
misdemeanor to go

4876
03:40:43,979 --> 03:40:47,870
be so

4877
03:40:47,880 --> 03:40:51,500
so if we if we can post that and just

4878
03:40:51,500 --> 03:40:54,840
reiterate somebody ran yeah they went

4879
03:40:54,840 --> 03:40:56,340
through it a couple days ago right

4880
03:40:56,340 --> 03:40:58,080
Christina

4881
03:40:58,080 --> 03:41:00,239
you watch somebody move the working

4882
03:41:00,239 --> 03:41:03,660
there no no After Hours night you should

4883
03:41:03,660 --> 03:41:05,939
see and I'm letting everybody in the

4884
03:41:05,939 --> 03:41:07,859
public know about this really seriously

4885
03:41:07,859 --> 03:41:10,020
you're going down I've been outside

4886
03:41:10,020 --> 03:41:12,060
you're going 55 miles an hour down

4887
03:41:12,060 --> 03:41:13,620
Marvin Road straight into those

4888
03:41:13,620 --> 03:41:14,819
barricades

4889
03:41:14,819 --> 03:41:16,800
and I've seen people like you totally

4890
03:41:16,800 --> 03:41:19,260
ignore whatever's being said and I know

4891
03:41:19,260 --> 03:41:21,000
it's not Marvin can you know residence

4892
03:41:21,000 --> 03:41:22,080
per se

4893
03:41:22,080 --> 03:41:26,160
but I I've witnessed it and it's like I

4894
03:41:26,160 --> 03:41:27,479
don't know what you're thinking and then

4895
03:41:27,479 --> 03:41:28,859
you get to the end and you're hitting

4896
03:41:28,859 --> 03:41:30,000
the brakes and you're going through The

4897
03:41:30,000 --> 03:41:31,560
Preserve to turn around or you go into

4898
03:41:31,560 --> 03:41:33,720
Innisbrook

4899
03:41:33,720 --> 03:41:35,580
um to try to turn around or try to find

4900
03:41:35,580 --> 03:41:37,380
an outlet

4901
03:41:37,380 --> 03:41:38,279
um

4902
03:41:38,279 --> 03:41:40,560
you know it's a 500 fine because I have

4903
03:41:40,560 --> 03:41:42,660
seen people now move I have seen people

4904
03:41:42,660 --> 03:41:44,460
move the barricades and move behind I

4905
03:41:44,460 --> 03:41:45,540
don't know even know what's behind there

4906
03:41:45,540 --> 03:41:47,220
I don't even know if it's drivable

4907
03:41:47,220 --> 03:41:52,130
I just wanted to say that

4908
03:41:52,140 --> 03:42:00,290
I will make that

4909
03:42:00,300 --> 03:42:02,640
okay moving on coffee with Council

4910
03:42:02,640 --> 03:42:04,979
debrief do you want us to still see this

4911
03:42:04,979 --> 03:42:07,260
oh sorry I'm typing my minutes in front

4912
03:42:07,260 --> 03:42:11,269
of you that's okay how embarrassing

4913
03:42:11,279 --> 03:42:13,500
coffee with Council debrief

4914
03:42:13,500 --> 03:42:18,000
um go ahead Joan Jamie well we had a

4915
03:42:18,000 --> 03:42:20,340
surprise visitor and Kim was there so we

4916
03:42:20,340 --> 03:42:24,290
had three of us

4917
03:42:24,300 --> 03:42:28,080
and we had probably the biggest group to

4918
03:42:28,080 --> 03:42:30,899
date for coffee with Council

4919
03:42:30,899 --> 03:42:33,420
started with just one or actually

4920
03:42:33,420 --> 03:42:35,580
representing the church two

4921
03:42:35,580 --> 03:42:38,700
representatives from the church and a

4922
03:42:38,700 --> 03:42:45,530
representative from zepsa and probably

4923
03:42:45,540 --> 03:42:47,180
10 or 12

4924
03:42:47,180 --> 03:42:52,610
2015 maybe 15 residents

4925
03:42:52,620 --> 03:42:56,330
president

4926
03:42:56,340 --> 03:42:58,200
but you know we have dialogue going

4927
03:42:58,200 --> 03:43:02,239
which I thought was good and

4928
03:43:02,239 --> 03:43:07,130
some things were unfortunately it's

4929
03:43:07,140 --> 03:43:09,779
again given we had clarify things that

4930
03:43:09,779 --> 03:43:11,160
they were giving wrong

4931
03:43:11,160 --> 03:43:14,100
nation and public hearing that we

4932
03:43:14,100 --> 03:43:15,739
've got the deviations

4933
03:43:15,739 --> 03:43:18,720
and one gentleman sent me information on

4934
03:43:18,720 --> 03:43:26,330
my

4935
03:43:26,340 --> 03:43:29,580
but I think it was good conversation

4936
03:43:29,580 --> 03:43:30,300
um

4937
03:43:30,300 --> 03:43:32,279
probably most likely not going to be

4938
03:43:32,279 --> 03:43:35,520
happy with what has happened I will say

4939
03:43:35,520 --> 03:43:38,160
that one individual who is affected

4940
03:43:38,160 --> 03:43:41,279
directly and abuts to the property I had

4941
03:43:41,279 --> 03:43:43,319
a phone call with and

4942
03:43:43,319 --> 03:43:45,300
he was aware of what was potentially

4943
03:43:45,300 --> 03:43:48,479
going to happen here and

4944
03:43:48,479 --> 03:43:50,040
expecting it

4945
03:43:50,040 --> 03:43:53,640
this quickly so um but he was aware

4946
03:43:53,640 --> 03:43:56,520
which I think when you as you know Kim

4947
03:43:56,520 --> 03:43:59,100
in real estate it's buyer beware you got

4948
03:43:59,100 --> 03:44:01,020
to know where you're buying and what's

4949
03:44:01,020 --> 03:44:02,700
going to potentially be happening and

4950
03:44:02,700 --> 03:44:05,760
this was talked about well before me and

4951
03:44:05,760 --> 03:44:10,739
is supported by the greater good which

4952
03:44:10,739 --> 03:44:14,640
probably one of the reasons this

4953
03:44:14,640 --> 03:44:16,979
today in our

4954
03:44:16,979 --> 03:44:18,359
but

4955
03:44:18,359 --> 03:44:21,060
other than that was there another coffee

4956
03:44:21,060 --> 03:44:23,100
with Council that someone was at the two

4957
03:44:23,100 --> 03:44:24,180
weeks

4958
03:44:24,180 --> 03:44:25,920
that was discussed at the previous

4959
03:44:25,920 --> 03:44:27,720
meeting okay all right

4960
03:44:27,720 --> 03:44:29,819
but that's all I had is that fair yeah

4961
03:44:29,819 --> 03:44:32,399
that's right the only thing I would say

4962
03:44:32,399 --> 03:44:34,439
is that with coffee with Council we

4963
03:44:34,439 --> 03:44:37,200
appreciate everyone coming in

4964
03:44:37,200 --> 03:44:39,540
and we do listen to everything that you

4965
03:44:39,540 --> 03:44:40,979
say we take all those things in

4966
03:44:40,979 --> 03:44:43,319
consideration and whether you believe it

4967
03:44:43,319 --> 03:44:45,300
or not and I hope hopefully that you do

4968
03:44:45,300 --> 03:44:47,520
and and you'll respect that we do take

4969
03:44:47,520 --> 03:44:51,359
these issues and concerns back to the

4970
03:44:51,359 --> 03:44:53,880
developer or or any instance that that

4971
03:44:53,880 --> 03:44:55,920
someone comes in and has a concern or

4972
03:44:55,920 --> 03:44:58,020
something like that to try to make it

4973
03:44:58,020 --> 03:45:00,120
where it works for both sides and

4974
03:45:00,120 --> 03:45:03,840
there's a win-win on both sides and I

4975
03:45:03,840 --> 03:45:05,819
can tell you from the time that we had

4976
03:45:05,819 --> 03:45:08,520
coffee with council Tuesday night till

4977
03:45:08,520 --> 03:45:12,420
now changes have changes were made

4978
03:45:12,420 --> 03:45:14,160
um that we presented to the developer

4979
03:45:14,160 --> 03:45:16,739
and those changes were made so to think

4980
03:45:16,739 --> 03:45:19,920
that we're we don't listen and we don't

4981
03:45:19,920 --> 03:45:23,220
consider those or take those with with

4982
03:45:23,220 --> 03:45:26,939
with respect we do and um

4983
03:45:26,939 --> 03:45:29,040
you know anyone that that came the other

4984
03:45:29,040 --> 03:45:31,439
night that that has questions about what

4985
03:45:31,439 --> 03:45:32,939
were those changes you know certainly

4986
03:45:32,939 --> 03:45:35,939
reach out to either uh the mayor or

4987
03:45:35,939 --> 03:45:38,700
myself and I've told them then I said

4988
03:45:38,700 --> 03:45:40,500
you've got my phone number please reach

4989
03:45:40,500 --> 03:45:42,600
out to me and we'll sort of discuss them

4990
03:45:42,600 --> 03:45:45,300
but uh listen it was great for me it was

4991
03:45:45,300 --> 03:45:46,859
great to have that many people show up

4992
03:45:46,859 --> 03:45:48,960
and I hope that we continue to have

4993
03:45:48,960 --> 03:45:51,479
people show up and voice their concerns

4994
03:45:51,479 --> 03:45:54,899
but also voice their their

4995
03:45:54,899 --> 03:45:57,120
um the other side of it saying you know

4996
03:45:57,120 --> 03:46:01,080
I'm you know I'm all for something an

4997
03:46:01,080 --> 03:46:03,960
appreciation for what you are doing and

4998
03:46:03,960 --> 03:46:06,540
as opposed to always just being you know

4999
03:46:06,540 --> 03:46:08,520
getting hammered on what we

5000
03:46:08,520 --> 03:46:10,200
you know what people think that we're

5001
03:46:10,200 --> 03:46:11,939
doing I'll have another comment about

5002
03:46:11,939 --> 03:46:16,050
that later in Council comments

5003
03:46:16,060 --> 03:46:23,210
[Music]

5004
03:46:23,220 --> 03:46:26,640
I would like I appreciate people showing

5005
03:46:26,640 --> 03:46:30,239
up I would like to reiterate that their

5006
03:46:30,239 --> 03:46:32,340
work ate coffee with Council

5007
03:46:32,340 --> 03:46:36,000
opportunities between the first Pim

5008
03:46:36,000 --> 03:46:37,500
and

5009
03:46:37,500 --> 03:46:40,439
the public hearing and we didn't have

5010
03:46:40,439 --> 03:46:43,500
anybody show up

5011
03:46:43,500 --> 03:46:46,380
to discuss this project

5012
03:46:46,380 --> 03:46:47,760
and

5013
03:46:47,760 --> 03:46:51,120
if we are to make

5014
03:46:51,120 --> 03:46:53,040
thoughtful

5015
03:46:53,040 --> 03:46:54,620
recommendations

5016
03:46:54,620 --> 03:46:58,800
request to the to the developers we have

5017
03:46:58,800 --> 03:47:00,319
to have that information

5018
03:47:00,319 --> 03:47:04,920
before two days or a day or the day of

5019
03:47:04,920 --> 03:47:07,560
public hearings or when we're going to

5020
03:47:07,560 --> 03:47:09,180
vote on something

5021
03:47:09,180 --> 03:47:11,279
so I would encourage

5022
03:47:11,279 --> 03:47:14,880
anyone who's listening to please be

5023
03:47:14,880 --> 03:47:16,800
informed know what is happening around

5024
03:47:16,800 --> 03:47:18,680
you

5025
03:47:18,680 --> 03:47:21,779
because it is very frustrating and

5026
03:47:21,779 --> 03:47:24,720
difficult for us as Council as we're

5027
03:47:24,720 --> 03:47:26,279
making these decisions we're like great

5028
03:47:26,279 --> 03:47:27,600
nobody's showing up everybody's happy

5029
03:47:27,600 --> 03:47:30,180
with it no problem moving right along we

5030
03:47:30,180 --> 03:47:31,859
love it we think it's great planning

5031
03:47:31,859 --> 03:47:33,899
board loves it they think it's great and

5032
03:47:33,899 --> 03:47:36,180
then all of a sudden we have a very

5033
03:47:36,180 --> 03:47:39,120
large contingent of a neighborhood that

5034
03:47:39,120 --> 03:47:41,399
shows up that are not in favor of it and

5035
03:47:41,399 --> 03:47:42,899
it's

5036
03:47:42,899 --> 03:47:45,840
basically we were blindsided by it so I

5037
03:47:45,840 --> 03:47:48,300
would I would request that people show

5038
03:47:48,300 --> 03:47:51,960
up earlier and be informed and don't

5039
03:47:51,960 --> 03:47:53,700
wait until the bulldozer is in your

5040
03:47:53,700 --> 03:47:55,800
backyard

5041
03:47:55,800 --> 03:47:59,700
last comment from coffee with Council

5042
03:47:59,700 --> 03:48:03,420
I was truly offended

5043
03:48:03,420 --> 03:48:05,640
by

5044
03:48:05,640 --> 03:48:08,460
one gentleman's remarks that we are

5045
03:48:08,460 --> 03:48:11,399
absolutely 100 percent getting bribed in

5046
03:48:11,399 --> 03:48:12,779
this process

5047
03:48:12,779 --> 03:48:15,840
it was uncalled for

5048
03:48:15,840 --> 03:48:19,859
it was called and he said it to me

5049
03:48:19,859 --> 03:48:22,319
called my character into judgment called

5050
03:48:22,319 --> 03:48:25,020
all of this entire council's character

5051
03:48:25,020 --> 03:48:26,600
into judgment

5052
03:48:26,600 --> 03:48:31,260
and it is false and I don't appreciate

5053
03:48:31,260 --> 03:48:34,760
it if you think that you know something

5054
03:48:34,760 --> 03:48:37,680
and you want to say it you show me facts

5055
03:48:37,680 --> 03:48:40,620
otherwise keep your mouth shut because

5056
03:48:40,620 --> 03:48:42,200
it is

5057
03:48:42,200 --> 03:48:46,620
disrespectful and rude and I will not

5058
03:48:46,620 --> 03:48:49,380
stand for that period And I told him

5059
03:48:49,380 --> 03:48:57,469
that

5060
03:48:57,479 --> 03:48:59,939
it's unfortunate that had you go down

5061
03:48:59,939 --> 03:49:02,160
that road but it was after we moved out

5062
03:49:02,160 --> 03:49:04,319
of the building and we were trying to

5063
03:49:04,319 --> 03:49:06,600
continue the conversation from

5064
03:49:06,600 --> 03:49:09,120
civil standpoint but anyways uh thank

5065
03:49:09,120 --> 03:49:11,640
those for all coming out and sharing

5066
03:49:11,640 --> 03:49:14,580
their comments reports and updates

5067
03:49:14,580 --> 03:49:18,349
uh managers report

5068
03:49:18,359 --> 03:49:20,580
again nothing

5069
03:49:20,580 --> 03:49:23,160
planners

5070
03:49:23,160 --> 03:49:25,560
uh the only thing that I want to

5071
03:49:25,560 --> 03:49:29,420
update you guys on is the uh Udo project

5072
03:49:29,420 --> 03:49:32,939
we are getting into the meat of that I

5073
03:49:32,939 --> 03:49:36,359
would either either encourage counsel at

5074
03:49:36,359 --> 03:49:38,520
the upcoming September 19th meeting to

5075
03:49:38,520 --> 03:49:41,279
either attend and just listen because we

5076
03:49:41,279 --> 03:49:42,600
are kind of getting into the direct like

5077
03:49:42,600 --> 03:49:45,180
regulations of zoning districts

5078
03:49:45,180 --> 03:49:47,640
permitted uses setback I mean all that

5079
03:49:47,640 --> 03:49:49,739
stuff and I think it's kind of important

5080
03:49:49,739 --> 03:49:50,760
for

5081
03:49:50,760 --> 03:49:53,460
Council to be aware to go ahead and

5082
03:49:53,460 --> 03:49:55,620
potentially provide feedback we can

5083
03:49:55,620 --> 03:49:56,819
either do

5084
03:49:56,819 --> 03:50:00,300
um a joint meeting or you guys can come

5085
03:50:00,300 --> 03:50:01,739
and we can just do a potential Quorum

5086
03:50:01,739 --> 03:50:04,140
notice you just participate as you know

5087
03:50:04,140 --> 03:50:06,000
residents of Marvin

5088
03:50:06,000 --> 03:50:07,439
um so just listen I can get you guys

5089
03:50:07,439 --> 03:50:10,200
binders and then any comments notes

5090
03:50:10,200 --> 03:50:11,760
questions stuff you guys have just write

5091
03:50:11,760 --> 03:50:13,380
them down let me know because the goal

5092
03:50:13,380 --> 03:50:15,479
of this is where planning board doesn't

5093
03:50:15,479 --> 03:50:17,040
go One Direction and gets in front of

5094
03:50:17,040 --> 03:50:19,739
council you know early next year for

5095
03:50:19,739 --> 03:50:22,560
adoption and it's completely different

5096
03:50:22,560 --> 03:50:24,180
visions that you guys have from planning

5097
03:50:24,180 --> 03:50:25,319
board I don't think that's necessarily

5098
03:50:25,319 --> 03:50:26,580
going to be the case

5099
03:50:26,580 --> 03:50:28,620
but uh the more that you guys are

5100
03:50:28,620 --> 03:50:30,000
involved in this project and kind of

5101
03:50:30,000 --> 03:50:31,739
aware now

5102
03:50:31,739 --> 03:50:33,420
um the better will be and the quicker we

5103
03:50:33,420 --> 03:50:35,580
can get this thing adopted it is going

5104
03:50:35,580 --> 03:50:38,640
great planning boards really really

5105
03:50:38,640 --> 03:50:39,239
um

5106
03:50:39,239 --> 03:50:41,279
group you know grasping this concept and

5107
03:50:41,279 --> 03:50:44,160
loving this process and uh

5108
03:50:44,160 --> 03:50:46,080
so I just wanted to mention that

5109
03:50:46,080 --> 03:50:47,819
is there

5110
03:50:47,819 --> 03:50:51,060
um is you know I obviously couldn't make

5111
03:50:51,060 --> 03:50:53,399
the last playing board meeting but I

5112
03:50:53,399 --> 03:50:55,680
know that the planning board meeting is

5113
03:50:55,680 --> 03:50:59,340
hopping all over the calendar and there

5114
03:50:59,340 --> 03:51:01,380
was supposed to be the training meeting

5115
03:51:01,380 --> 03:51:03,060
and then the planning board are we

5116
03:51:03,060 --> 03:51:04,859
containing it just to the one planning

5117
03:51:04,859 --> 03:51:06,899
board meeting yes so moving forward

5118
03:51:06,899 --> 03:51:08,100
right now

5119
03:51:08,100 --> 03:51:10,200
um they're back down to just one meeting

5120
03:51:10,200 --> 03:51:12,479
a month just because when we started

5121
03:51:12,479 --> 03:51:14,040
this process we did we were working on

5122
03:51:14,040 --> 03:51:15,540
those revisions for the form-based code

5123
03:51:15,540 --> 03:51:17,279
and then we got the rezoning so we did

5124
03:51:17,279 --> 03:51:18,600
have a lot on our plates that's why we

5125
03:51:18,600 --> 03:51:19,920
broke it up in the two meetings but

5126
03:51:19,920 --> 03:51:23,939
right now we don't have any any other

5127
03:51:23,939 --> 03:51:25,260
type of submittals I have to go through

5128
03:51:25,260 --> 03:51:28,020
review and it just kind of as if

5129
03:51:28,020 --> 03:51:29,220
something is submitted then we'll have

5130
03:51:29,220 --> 03:51:30,540
to make that determination if we need to

5131
03:51:30,540 --> 03:51:32,640
schedule an additional meeting

5132
03:51:32,640 --> 03:51:36,540
um but or sorry recess the meeting uh

5133
03:51:36,540 --> 03:51:38,279
but these meetings last anywhere from an

5134
03:51:38,279 --> 03:51:40,319
hour and a half two hours it is the only

5135
03:51:40,319 --> 03:51:42,960
thing on the September agenda uh

5136
03:51:42,960 --> 03:51:44,880
and you like I said you can watch online

5137
03:51:44,880 --> 03:51:47,399
you can watch the recordings but I will

5138
03:51:47,399 --> 03:51:49,560
go ahead and get your guys binders done

5139
03:51:49,560 --> 03:51:50,640
next week

5140
03:51:50,640 --> 03:51:53,880
uh up to date with all the language and

5141
03:51:53,880 --> 03:51:55,800
um if you want to meet about it be happy

5142
03:51:55,800 --> 03:51:57,899
to to kind of also get you guys up to

5143
03:51:57,899 --> 03:52:00,060
speed but uh like I said I do encourage

5144
03:52:00,060 --> 03:52:02,220
you guys to come and attend or watch

5145
03:52:02,220 --> 03:52:07,429
online or watch the recordings

5146
03:52:07,439 --> 03:52:09,540
other than that that is all I have

5147
03:52:09,540 --> 03:52:11,580
unless Council has any questions on

5148
03:52:11,580 --> 03:52:13,680
anything

5149
03:52:13,680 --> 03:52:14,880
thank you Hunter

5150
03:52:14,880 --> 03:52:18,500
Yvette planning report updating

5151
03:52:18,500 --> 03:52:21,120
rules and regulations for the barbecue

5152
03:52:21,120 --> 03:52:24,380
and Brews event yeah so real quick

5153
03:52:24,380 --> 03:52:27,479
barbecue and Brews

5154
03:52:27,479 --> 03:52:30,359
we'll do it ether Park I'm recommending

5155
03:52:30,359 --> 03:52:32,819
November 18th I know we hadn't really

5156
03:52:32,819 --> 03:52:35,040
set a date

5157
03:52:35,040 --> 03:52:38,160
quite yet but November 18th from three

5158
03:52:38,160 --> 03:52:40,859
to five in the afternoon

5159
03:52:40,859 --> 03:52:41,760
um

5160
03:52:41,760 --> 03:52:44,220
the rules are pretty much just talk

5161
03:52:44,220 --> 03:52:46,380
about

5162
03:52:46,380 --> 03:52:48,239
we'll pick up the meat here on Friday

5163
03:52:48,239 --> 03:52:50,220
the 17th

5164
03:52:50,220 --> 03:52:51,660
um everybody it talks about everybody's

5165
03:52:51,660 --> 03:52:53,520
gonna have a 20 by 20 space out of the

5166
03:52:53,520 --> 03:52:54,260
park

5167
03:52:54,260 --> 03:52:56,880
for smoking there may gates are going to

5168
03:52:56,880 --> 03:52:57,899
open

5169
03:52:57,899 --> 03:53:01,520
to the cookers at five o'clock Friday

5170
03:53:01,520 --> 03:53:05,279
night and will be open for you to come

5171
03:53:05,279 --> 03:53:07,140
and go all throughout the park as needed

5172
03:53:07,140 --> 03:53:08,880
all night

5173
03:53:08,880 --> 03:53:10,500
um

5174
03:53:10,500 --> 03:53:15,060
and then basically we just talk about

5175
03:53:15,060 --> 03:53:18,359
you got the council is right now plan to

5176
03:53:18,359 --> 03:53:20,399
be the judges for the event we're gonna

5177
03:53:20,399 --> 03:53:24,260
have three types of meat Boston butt

5178
03:53:24,260 --> 03:53:27,840
ribs and chicken again that's subject to

5179
03:53:27,840 --> 03:53:30,600
change depending on how many people we

5180
03:53:30,600 --> 03:53:34,319
have sign up to cook be kind of might

5181
03:53:34,319 --> 03:53:36,960
vary how much meat we give each person

5182
03:53:36,960 --> 03:53:39,779
to cook but

5183
03:53:39,779 --> 03:53:42,720
any questions about barbecue and Brews

5184
03:53:42,720 --> 03:53:45,500
can we call it Brews and Q

5185
03:53:45,500 --> 03:53:50,399
that's actually cute it is yeah

5186
03:53:50,399 --> 03:53:53,580
we can look into it okay cool hey I just

5187
03:53:53,580 --> 03:53:55,140
wanted to mention real quick we um Tyler

5188
03:53:55,140 --> 03:53:56,220
and I've been working on these little

5189
03:53:56,220 --> 03:53:58,200
templates for events I don't know if you

5190
03:53:58,200 --> 03:54:00,479
see this this is how all the event

5191
03:54:00,479 --> 03:54:02,220
updates will come to you in your agenda

5192
03:54:02,220 --> 03:54:04,319
packets from here forward so you can go

5193
03:54:04,319 --> 03:54:07,040
ahead and review kind of what's there

5194
03:54:07,040 --> 03:54:09,479
what the anticipated budget is in case

5195
03:54:09,479 --> 03:54:10,920
you see anything that just doesn't jive

5196
03:54:10,920 --> 03:54:13,140
with what you're thinking this is kind

5197
03:54:13,140 --> 03:54:14,939
of where we would go ahead and make

5198
03:54:14,939 --> 03:54:16,560
decisions for you and if you don't agree

5199
03:54:16,560 --> 03:54:18,660
with it we would expect you to say it at

5200
03:54:18,660 --> 03:54:19,800
the time

5201
03:54:19,800 --> 03:54:22,260
of the the you know the event

5202
03:54:22,260 --> 03:54:24,300
log when it first comes out for example

5203
03:54:24,300 --> 03:54:27,239
if you look on to the

5204
03:54:27,239 --> 03:54:30,180
one-man acoustic set for entertainment

5205
03:54:30,180 --> 03:54:31,620
we're going to try to put little notes

5206
03:54:31,620 --> 03:54:33,600
in there

5207
03:54:33,600 --> 03:54:35,340
otherwise if y'all don't say anything

5208
03:54:35,340 --> 03:54:36,779
about it we just assume that it's okay

5209
03:54:36,779 --> 03:54:38,880
and we'll go ahead and go through with

5210
03:54:38,880 --> 03:54:41,160
those types of small detail unless

5211
03:54:41,160 --> 03:54:45,170
anything said by the date specified

5212
03:54:45,180 --> 03:54:46,859
so just make sure you're keeping a good

5213
03:54:46,859 --> 03:54:49,500
eye on these components because it's you

5214
03:54:49,500 --> 03:54:50,699
know so we're not getting down into the

5215
03:54:50,699 --> 03:54:52,140
weeds of every single little detail and

5216
03:54:52,140 --> 03:54:53,220
every little event we're going to go

5217
03:54:53,220 --> 03:54:54,359
ahead and just start planning things as

5218
03:54:54,359 --> 03:54:56,640
we think that they should be unless

5219
03:54:56,640 --> 03:54:58,380
y'all tell us otherwise by a certain

5220
03:54:58,380 --> 03:55:07,610
date that we establish

5221
03:55:07,620 --> 03:55:09,600
certainly hope that we have more than 75

5222
03:55:09,600 --> 03:55:11,220
people show up for this which I'm sure

5223
03:55:11,220 --> 03:55:12,540
that's a conservative number that you

5224
03:55:12,540 --> 03:55:13,859
want to

5225
03:55:13,859 --> 03:55:17,100
do you have a contingency for

5226
03:55:17,100 --> 03:55:20,460
if we do have say 200 people show up

5227
03:55:20,460 --> 03:55:24,239
for extra time allotment so those types

5228
03:55:24,239 --> 03:55:25,979
of things I say I know you said three to

5229
03:55:25,979 --> 03:55:27,300
five it's a little early in the

5230
03:55:27,300 --> 03:55:30,000
afternoon but I understand with the

5231
03:55:30,000 --> 03:55:32,699
cooking and all that stuff are as their

5232
03:55:32,699 --> 03:55:35,520
Provisions for it to run longer if

5233
03:55:35,520 --> 03:55:37,560
there's big attendance that kind of

5234
03:55:37,560 --> 03:55:39,779
thing so basically it's got to be less

5235
03:55:39,779 --> 03:55:41,640
than three hours

5236
03:55:41,640 --> 03:55:43,979
um because of

5237
03:55:43,979 --> 03:55:46,620
serving food and not having them

5238
03:55:46,620 --> 03:55:49,020
actually have a sanitation grade and the

5239
03:55:49,020 --> 03:55:50,580
environmental health this is based on

5240
03:55:50,580 --> 03:55:51,899
their form that I had to fill out so

5241
03:55:51,899 --> 03:55:53,580
it's got to be less than three hours if

5242
03:55:53,580 --> 03:55:54,720
we're not going to have them actually

5243
03:55:54,720 --> 03:55:58,500
sell plates of food or them come out and

5244
03:55:58,500 --> 03:56:00,180
check everybody and make sure they have

5245
03:56:00,180 --> 03:56:03,660
all the sanitation grade and all that so

5246
03:56:03,660 --> 03:56:06,910
but

5247
03:56:06,920 --> 03:56:09,300
well can we if it's three hours can we

5248
03:56:09,300 --> 03:56:10,800
just extend it to six

5249
03:56:10,800 --> 03:56:13,080
like from three to six yeah I think that

5250
03:56:13,080 --> 03:56:15,840
would be is it just because I I mean I

5251
03:56:15,840 --> 03:56:16,739
know it's going to be getting dark

5252
03:56:16,739 --> 03:56:19,260
earlier so I know that's why we didn't

5253
03:56:19,260 --> 03:56:22,199
push it later but can we just do yeah

5254
03:56:22,199 --> 03:56:23,819
like that if there are a lot of people

5255
03:56:23,819 --> 03:56:26,220
there squeezing it into two hours could

5256
03:56:26,220 --> 03:56:28,260
be logistically a little bit of a

5257
03:56:28,260 --> 03:56:30,720
headaches and and they will be serving

5258
03:56:30,720 --> 03:56:32,819
it to the people right yeah but it's

5259
03:56:32,819 --> 03:56:34,500
because they're serving samples as

5260
03:56:34,500 --> 03:56:37,380
opposed to plates

5261
03:56:37,380 --> 03:56:38,880
and they're paying their ten dollars

5262
03:56:38,880 --> 03:56:40,739
they're going to get some right you'll

5263
03:56:40,739 --> 03:56:43,020
have like a wristband cues I don't know

5264
03:56:43,020 --> 03:56:45,300
oh I don't know and we're and we're

5265
03:56:45,300 --> 03:56:47,279
going to have bring your own beer okay

5266
03:56:47,279 --> 03:56:48,960
this year just so we can kind of like

5267
03:56:48,960 --> 03:56:50,819
compile the numbers for next year and we

5268
03:56:50,819 --> 03:56:52,380
can or whatever it'll be an easier sale

5269
03:56:52,380 --> 03:56:54,060
to distilleries and breweries and say

5270
03:56:54,060 --> 03:56:55,859
like look here we had 200 people here

5271
03:56:55,859 --> 03:56:57,660
like this is somewhere you want to set

5272
03:56:57,660 --> 03:56:58,800
up okay

5273
03:56:58,800 --> 03:57:01,140
okay so just one thing to note from what

5274
03:57:01,140 --> 03:57:03,439
I have been told and I can't

5275
03:57:03,439 --> 03:57:05,880
substantiate this but it was rumor that

5276
03:57:05,880 --> 03:57:10,620
I've been told that when this new thing

5277
03:57:10,620 --> 03:57:13,319
goes in Valentine that

5278
03:57:13,319 --> 03:57:14,520
um

5279
03:57:14,520 --> 03:57:19,010
OMB is going to be moving their main

5280
03:57:19,020 --> 03:57:21,840
place to the Valentine area from Uptown

5281
03:57:21,840 --> 03:57:26,040
because of space constraints and such so

5282
03:57:26,040 --> 03:57:28,080
just keeping that in mind if they're

5283
03:57:28,080 --> 03:57:30,560
going to be right here around the corner

5284
03:57:30,560 --> 03:57:33,359
you know for some of our events and such

5285
03:57:33,359 --> 03:57:35,760
they uh I hope they did well the last

5286
03:57:35,760 --> 03:57:38,460
time they were here but I didn't get any

5287
03:57:38,460 --> 03:57:40,260
feedback on that but I thought they did

5288
03:57:40,260 --> 03:57:42,060
I certainly spent some money with them

5289
03:57:42,060 --> 03:57:49,729
so

5290
03:57:49,739 --> 03:57:51,540
are you guys okay with the one-man

5291
03:57:51,540 --> 03:57:52,739
acoustic so we don't have to wait until

5292
03:57:52,739 --> 03:57:55,670
the September deadline

5293
03:57:55,680 --> 03:57:58,380
everybody good with that yeah

5294
03:57:58,380 --> 03:58:05,870
does it

5295
03:58:05,880 --> 03:58:08,279
let me get a little more than the same I

5296
03:58:08,279 --> 03:58:10,020
might get a sample and a half I will

5297
03:58:10,020 --> 03:58:12,060
mention too this was a this was a an

5298
03:58:12,060 --> 03:58:13,739
event that wasn't budgeted for so even

5299
03:58:13,739 --> 03:58:14,880
though we're bringing in Revenue we

5300
03:58:14,880 --> 03:58:17,040
still have to go back and do a amendment

5301
03:58:17,040 --> 03:58:19,920
to bring it in and spend it back out

5302
03:58:19,920 --> 03:58:30,040
FYI

5303
03:58:30,050 --> 03:58:33,779
[Laughter]

5304
03:58:33,779 --> 03:58:36,720
you're so full of ideas Joe more

5305
03:58:36,720 --> 03:58:40,340
questions about barbecue Brews all right

5306
03:58:40,340 --> 03:58:43,220
Brews and cues sorry everybody

5307
03:58:43,220 --> 03:58:45,180
all right

5308
03:58:45,180 --> 03:58:48,540
questions on that update on Marvin

5309
03:58:48,540 --> 03:58:50,460
so Marvin day we've booked a band

5310
03:58:50,460 --> 03:58:53,279
Breakfast Club they'll be there as you

5311
03:58:53,279 --> 03:58:55,979
know we've condensed the day from four

5312
03:58:55,979 --> 03:58:59,279
to nine thirty ish however long band

5313
03:58:59,279 --> 03:59:01,319
will stop at 9 15. fireworks will follow

5314
03:59:01,319 --> 03:59:02,939
directly so then however long the

5315
03:59:02,939 --> 03:59:06,359
fireworks go we'll have three food

5316
03:59:06,359 --> 03:59:07,680
trucks

5317
03:59:07,680 --> 03:59:10,100
um and and then a

5318
03:59:10,100 --> 03:59:13,739
dessert sweets truck will be there

5319
03:59:13,739 --> 03:59:16,010
um

5320
03:59:16,020 --> 03:59:18,479
Let's see we have our DJ we have our

5321
03:59:18,479 --> 03:59:22,500
face paint hair tinsels magic show he's

5322
03:59:22,500 --> 03:59:24,180
going to be there and he's actually

5323
03:59:24,180 --> 03:59:26,580
going to broadcast and like we're going

5324
03:59:26,580 --> 03:59:29,399
to say that there is a magic show at say

5325
03:59:29,399 --> 03:59:31,439
5 30. I'm working on the details with

5326
03:59:31,439 --> 03:59:33,600
him right now but he will be like

5327
03:59:33,600 --> 03:59:37,140
putting on like a 30-minute show

5328
03:59:37,140 --> 03:59:38,819
um as opposed and doing the balloon

5329
03:59:38,819 --> 03:59:41,220
animals and everything

5330
03:59:41,220 --> 03:59:44,750
um

5331
03:59:44,760 --> 03:59:46,620
it's pretty much it right now we're only

5332
03:59:46,620 --> 03:59:48,000
going to come from Marvin Ridge High

5333
03:59:48,000 --> 03:59:49,739
School we that's where we're going to

5334
03:59:49,739 --> 03:59:51,000
shuttle back and forth from just one

5335
03:59:51,000 --> 03:59:52,380
location

5336
03:59:52,380 --> 03:59:54,840
we have the parking lot

5337
03:59:54,840 --> 03:59:57,600
um we'll have disc golf again fireworks

5338
03:59:57,600 --> 03:59:59,939
quotes coming in right now I basically

5339
03:59:59,939 --> 04:00:01,859
asked him for the same show as last year

5340
04:00:01,859 --> 04:00:06,170
because I think everybody liked that one

5341
04:00:06,180 --> 04:00:14,990
pretty much all I got

5342
04:00:15,000 --> 04:00:18,000
a regular venue of how we get messages

5343
04:00:18,000 --> 04:00:21,180
now but targeting all the schools

5344
04:00:21,180 --> 04:00:23,340
whether it's an announcement in the

5345
04:00:23,340 --> 04:00:26,699
morning to some sort of

5346
04:00:26,699 --> 04:00:28,939
way that they have

5347
04:00:28,939 --> 04:00:31,500
banners they put up as people were

5348
04:00:31,500 --> 04:00:33,899
driving cars into maybe we can get

5349
04:00:33,899 --> 04:00:36,479
permission to put signs up as we drive

5350
04:00:36,479 --> 04:00:37,739
into the

5351
04:00:37,739 --> 04:00:39,359
things they're dropping off their kids a

5352
04:00:39,359 --> 04:00:41,520
reminder as it gets closer to that date

5353
04:00:41,520 --> 04:00:44,040
or maybe a month out I'm sure in

5354
04:00:44,040 --> 04:00:47,520
exchange for what we do for them

5355
04:00:47,520 --> 04:00:51,300
and do that and like yeah but that that

5356
04:00:51,300 --> 04:00:56,450
would be key and uh

5357
04:00:56,460 --> 04:01:00,000
breastfeed that one that I had

5358
04:01:00,000 --> 04:01:03,769
this one

5359
04:01:03,779 --> 04:01:05,340
that's all

5360
04:01:05,340 --> 04:01:08,580
everybody good on Marvin day

5361
04:01:08,580 --> 04:01:12,020
20 000 estimated cost Thirty

5362
04:01:12,020 --> 04:01:15,720
Thirty sorry Thirty I said 20. yeah that

5363
04:01:15,720 --> 04:01:17,460
might I might not have changed that

5364
04:01:17,460 --> 04:01:20,699
number at the bottom but it is 30.

5365
04:01:20,699 --> 04:01:24,550
whatever

5366
04:01:24,560 --> 04:01:27,720
mom's on the move I think yeah so that's

5367
04:01:27,720 --> 04:01:29,220
the first day of this is going to be

5368
04:01:29,220 --> 04:01:33,000
because the 26th of September is going

5369
04:01:33,000 --> 04:01:34,739
to go on the next newsletter we're going

5370
04:01:34,739 --> 04:01:36,479
to start them the first couple are going

5371
04:01:36,479 --> 04:01:37,800
to be here just so we can get a gauge

5372
04:01:37,800 --> 04:01:39,000
they're going to walk The Preserve Trail

5373
04:01:39,000 --> 04:01:40,500
just to get a gauge on who else coming

5374
04:01:40,500 --> 04:01:43,080
first day probably see if I can't go to

5375
04:01:43,080 --> 04:01:44,819
Dunkin and get like a

5376
04:01:44,819 --> 04:01:46,680
some coffee and some donuts or something

5377
04:01:46,680 --> 04:01:49,340
to kind of do a little welcoming thing

5378
04:01:49,340 --> 04:01:52,500
we're going to do it at nine o'clock

5379
04:01:52,500 --> 04:01:53,819
um

5380
04:01:53,819 --> 04:01:55,500
see how that works I don't know like

5381
04:01:55,500 --> 04:01:56,760
when it gets into the winter if people

5382
04:01:56,760 --> 04:01:58,319
think it's too cold we can bump it up to

5383
04:01:58,319 --> 04:02:00,300
10 or 11.

5384
04:02:00,300 --> 04:02:01,319
um

5385
04:02:01,319 --> 04:02:03,239
but other than that it'll it'll always

5386
04:02:03,239 --> 04:02:04,739
be in like a rotation we'll send out the

5387
04:02:04,739 --> 04:02:07,080
routes every in every newsletter for the

5388
04:02:07,080 --> 04:02:09,180
upcoming two to three weeks and it'll

5389
04:02:09,180 --> 04:02:13,150
just change weekly

5390
04:02:13,160 --> 04:02:23,090
I think at nine A.M

5391
04:02:23,100 --> 04:02:25,680
where we could put up there as they come

5392
04:02:25,680 --> 04:02:28,199
in and say oh sign up

5393
04:02:28,199 --> 04:02:30,060
put their emails they're willing to

5394
04:02:30,060 --> 04:02:32,520
share their email and then drop it not

5395
04:02:32,520 --> 04:02:34,020
that you would expose it to everybody

5396
04:02:34,020 --> 04:02:35,760
but

5397
04:02:35,760 --> 04:02:37,920
the tear off sheets

5398
04:02:37,920 --> 04:02:39,840
I was about to say we have QR codes that

5399
04:02:39,840 --> 04:02:41,279
bring you straight to the website out

5400
04:02:41,279 --> 04:02:47,030
there on the signs

5401
04:02:47,040 --> 04:02:48,239
right

5402
04:02:48,239 --> 04:02:51,540
there you go yeah that's yeah

5403
04:02:51,540 --> 04:02:53,880
Joe

5404
04:02:53,880 --> 04:02:56,399
you're free just do it in today's

5405
04:02:56,399 --> 04:03:01,430
technology and not

5406
04:03:01,440 --> 04:03:14,150
[Laughter]

5407
04:03:14,160 --> 04:03:15,540
yeah you're a mom and you're moving

5408
04:03:15,540 --> 04:03:17,880
right so I guess you fit the bill maybe

5409
04:03:17,880 --> 04:03:23,710
baby

5410
04:03:23,720 --> 04:03:25,979
Marvin babysitting with the mayor Pro

5411
04:03:25,979 --> 04:03:36,810
Tem

5412
04:03:36,820 --> 04:03:39,660
[Laughter]

5413
04:03:39,660 --> 04:03:41,160
all right

5414
04:03:41,160 --> 04:03:45,170
um review of action items

5415
04:03:45,180 --> 04:03:47,340
all right well I've already reserved

5416
04:03:47,340 --> 04:03:49,800
I've already RSV paid for Jamie for that

5417
04:03:49,800 --> 04:03:52,800
Leadership Summit so you're good there

5418
04:03:52,800 --> 04:03:53,880
um Christina's going to get an

5419
04:03:53,880 --> 04:03:56,040
additional quote from Specter for

5420
04:03:56,040 --> 04:03:58,319
internet at the park uh we're gonna have

5421
04:03:58,319 --> 04:04:05,769
Granite Sky bring some examples

5422
04:04:05,779 --> 04:04:08,399
hey everybody everybody Under the Sun

5423
04:04:08,399 --> 04:04:11,269
everybody

5424
04:04:11,279 --> 04:04:12,359
um Granite sky is going to bring

5425
04:04:12,359 --> 04:04:14,520
examples to our next meeting for uh for

5426
04:04:14,520 --> 04:04:24,729
some of their marketing materials

5427
04:04:24,739 --> 04:04:27,060
what's up

5428
04:04:27,060 --> 04:04:28,620
I will be sending out an additional

5429
04:04:28,620 --> 04:04:30,660
communication warning people not to

5430
04:04:30,660 --> 04:04:32,699
drive through the barricades

5431
04:04:32,699 --> 04:04:34,260
and

5432
04:04:34,260 --> 04:04:38,340
scary scary letter fine prosecutor you

5433
04:04:38,340 --> 04:04:40,080
will be prosecuted you know in charge of

5434
04:04:40,080 --> 04:04:44,899
the misdemeanor turn around don't drown

5435
04:04:44,899 --> 04:04:47,340
so I I'll figure something out but

5436
04:04:47,340 --> 04:04:50,510
catchy free

5437
04:04:50,520 --> 04:04:55,570
um

5438
04:04:55,580 --> 04:04:58,140
there you go

5439
04:04:58,140 --> 04:04:59,760
I'll take let's go take a picture of the

5440
04:04:59,760 --> 04:05:01,260
barricades Joe

5441
04:05:01,260 --> 04:05:07,010
um

5442
04:05:07,020 --> 04:05:09,060
we can work on an exploratory committee

5443
04:05:09,060 --> 04:05:11,040
for the multi-purpose Fields that's all

5444
04:05:11,040 --> 04:05:12,180
I got

5445
04:05:12,180 --> 04:05:13,380
the thing I'm sure we have a couple

5446
04:05:13,380 --> 04:05:15,199
agreements to execute in there as well

5447
04:05:15,199 --> 04:05:19,080
review mayor Pro Kim did I at least

5448
04:05:19,080 --> 04:05:21,840
attach this one

5449
04:05:21,840 --> 04:05:25,910
okay I'm opening it

5450
04:05:25,920 --> 04:05:28,020
um we have not heard back they've asked

5451
04:05:28,020 --> 04:05:29,040
for some additional they asked

5452
04:05:29,040 --> 04:05:30,420
additional questions a while back we

5453
04:05:30,420 --> 04:05:32,279
wrote them up a very nice detailed

5454
04:05:32,279 --> 04:05:33,779
response including information on the

5455
04:05:33,779 --> 04:05:35,699
Geo Bond and we have not heard back

5456
04:05:35,699 --> 04:05:36,960
since

5457
04:05:36,960 --> 04:05:39,479
but we can't

5458
04:05:39,479 --> 04:05:40,560
um

5459
04:05:40,560 --> 04:05:41,760
huh

5460
04:05:41,760 --> 04:05:43,199
oh no one ever gives me their phone

5461
04:05:43,199 --> 04:05:49,969
number it's always email

5462
04:05:49,979 --> 04:05:52,020
if you want to do that you can

5463
04:05:52,020 --> 04:05:53,779
um

5464
04:05:53,779 --> 04:05:57,840
speaking of which Christina

5465
04:05:57,840 --> 04:06:00,120
let's talk after Christina speaking of

5466
04:06:00,120 --> 04:06:02,160
that I should have a contact information

5467
04:06:02,160 --> 04:06:07,439
for the HOA president for PDS tomorrow

5468
04:06:07,439 --> 04:06:08,520
what

5469
04:06:08,520 --> 04:06:13,450
um anything else oh yeah

5470
04:06:13,460 --> 04:06:16,319
Mark Brody about

5471
04:06:16,319 --> 04:06:18,080
annexation

5472
04:06:18,080 --> 04:06:19,800
no

5473
04:06:19,800 --> 04:06:26,689
are they going to yes

5474
04:06:26,699 --> 04:06:39,170
oh that's September

5475
04:06:39,180 --> 04:06:40,979
Tyler are you finished talking to Union

5476
04:06:40,979 --> 04:06:53,769
County about their facilities

5477
04:06:53,779 --> 04:06:57,060
thank you okay so we can complete that

5478
04:06:57,060 --> 04:07:00,769
one

5479
04:07:00,779 --> 04:07:07,630
are we going to play more

5480
04:07:07,640 --> 04:07:10,380
Regional stormwater study that's on hold

5481
04:07:10,380 --> 04:07:18,710
air rifle agreement

5482
04:07:18,720 --> 04:07:20,160
we'll finish all of your projects to

5483
04:07:20,160 --> 04:07:21,899
Village Hall well it's interesting that

5484
04:07:21,899 --> 04:07:24,120
you bring this up we actually have some

5485
04:07:24,120 --> 04:07:28,380
movement on the paver situation Matt

5486
04:07:28,380 --> 04:07:30,899
came to me yesterday and said he has

5487
04:07:30,899 --> 04:07:33,660
gotten the engraver working he was

5488
04:07:33,660 --> 04:07:36,180
looking for some software which I helped

5489
04:07:36,180 --> 04:07:38,040
him with I got to follow up with him but

5490
04:07:38,040 --> 04:07:40,140
if everything is working correctly I'm

5491
04:07:40,140 --> 04:07:41,399
going to go ahead and put the sand in

5492
04:07:41,399 --> 04:07:43,979
because we can actually sit it on and do

5493
04:07:43,979 --> 04:07:45,540
the engraving there he's just working on

5494
04:07:45,540 --> 04:07:47,040
some of the Kinks so I'm going to go

5495
04:07:47,040 --> 04:07:48,479
ahead and schedule that to get finished

5496
04:07:48,479 --> 04:07:51,830
up

5497
04:07:51,840 --> 04:07:54,230
well it's progress

5498
04:07:54,230 --> 04:08:03,769
[Laughter]

5499
04:08:03,779 --> 04:08:06,889
meeting

5500
04:08:06,899 --> 04:08:14,389
laughs

5501
04:08:14,399 --> 04:08:28,070
next meeting that's a no

5502
04:08:28,080 --> 04:08:32,450
you gotta check off Thompson

5503
04:08:32,460 --> 04:08:34,859
that's been done that's done

5504
04:08:34,859 --> 04:08:37,560
execute agreement

5505
04:08:37,560 --> 04:08:39,899
that's done

5506
04:08:39,899 --> 04:08:43,929
you want to check off Tom Short Road

5507
04:08:43,939 --> 04:08:46,399
s

5508
04:08:46,399 --> 04:08:56,349
oh yeah we did that yesterday that's big

5509
04:08:56,359 --> 04:08:58,319
officially it's not done until the

5510
04:08:58,319 --> 04:08:59,939
contract son but we're done yeah but

5511
04:08:59,939 --> 04:09:02,750
we're done negotiating

5512
04:09:02,760 --> 04:09:04,500
okay

5513
04:09:04,500 --> 04:09:06,239
thank you

5514
04:09:06,239 --> 04:09:07,199
um

5515
04:09:07,199 --> 04:09:11,699
just uh to go back on the last

5516
04:09:11,699 --> 04:09:14,819
thing you sent out on email about a

5517
04:09:14,819 --> 04:09:18,779
delay again here no delays okay I

5518
04:09:18,779 --> 04:09:21,359
thought I saw something completion

5519
04:09:21,359 --> 04:09:24,540
yeah middle of October hopefully

5520
04:09:24,540 --> 04:09:27,060
all right Council comments let's go

5521
04:09:27,060 --> 04:09:29,819
first Andy

5522
04:09:29,819 --> 04:09:32,150
um

5523
04:09:32,160 --> 04:09:34,080
really have anything other than the

5524
04:09:34,080 --> 04:09:36,020
normal uh

5525
04:09:36,020 --> 04:09:39,600
stuff and it's not that it's normal but

5526
04:09:39,600 --> 04:09:41,460
it is normal because you guys do such a

5527
04:09:41,460 --> 04:09:43,739
good job it is normal to praise you for

5528
04:09:43,739 --> 04:09:46,020
what you guys do so thank you for

5529
04:09:46,020 --> 04:09:47,460
everything that

5530
04:09:47,460 --> 04:09:50,699
everybody here including Council does

5531
04:09:50,699 --> 04:09:53,040
uh thank you to our deputies for all

5532
04:09:53,040 --> 04:09:55,859
they do I know they work hard they

5533
04:09:55,859 --> 04:09:58,620
have a lot of obstacles to deal with on

5534
04:09:58,620 --> 04:10:00,140
a regular basis

5535
04:10:00,140 --> 04:10:05,929
so that's all I have thank you

5536
04:10:05,939 --> 04:10:09,779
I would reiterate what uh councilman

5537
04:10:09,779 --> 04:10:12,660
Wortman has said in the fact that I I've

5538
04:10:12,660 --> 04:10:16,429
personally enjoyed

5539
04:10:16,439 --> 04:10:19,859
the issues and situations that have been

5540
04:10:19,859 --> 04:10:21,540
posed to the council

5541
04:10:21,540 --> 04:10:24,540
and for the public out there we all have

5542
04:10:24,540 --> 04:10:26,340
our different opinions we all have our

5543
04:10:26,340 --> 04:10:28,439
different personalities but it's great

5544
04:10:28,439 --> 04:10:30,840
to see a team that works together that

5545
04:10:30,840 --> 04:10:33,899
works out issues together for the common

5546
04:10:33,899 --> 04:10:36,300
good so I I want to give a thanks to the

5547
04:10:36,300 --> 04:10:39,540
council and as of course well as the

5548
04:10:39,540 --> 04:10:42,660
staff so thank you

5549
04:10:42,660 --> 04:10:44,819
okay

5550
04:10:44,819 --> 04:10:46,380
a couple things

5551
04:10:46,380 --> 04:10:48,720
um one is I had someone come up to me

5552
04:10:48,720 --> 04:10:50,100
that said

5553
04:10:50,100 --> 04:10:51,960
made a claim and I'm not saying it's

5554
04:10:51,960 --> 04:10:54,120
true or not but made a claim that one of

5555
04:10:54,120 --> 04:10:56,340
the the when they were going by to pick

5556
04:10:56,340 --> 04:10:57,540
up trash

5557
04:10:57,540 --> 04:10:59,939
that the guy got off the truck

5558
04:10:59,939 --> 04:11:03,239
and was by or near his yard and was

5559
04:11:03,239 --> 04:11:05,060
peeing

5560
04:11:05,060 --> 04:11:08,939
made the claim I'm not saying it's true

5561
04:11:08,939 --> 04:11:10,859
I'm just saying they made the claim to

5562
04:11:10,859 --> 04:11:12,300
me

5563
04:11:12,300 --> 04:11:13,199
um

5564
04:11:13,199 --> 04:11:16,080
was I I don't know if they filed a

5565
04:11:16,080 --> 04:11:17,819
complaint with with the sheriff's

5566
04:11:17,819 --> 04:11:19,680
department and

5567
04:11:19,680 --> 04:11:21,540
if they followed up on that but that

5568
04:11:21,540 --> 04:11:24,120
that's just a claim can you give me the

5569
04:11:24,120 --> 04:11:25,800
address off the Record and I can follow

5570
04:11:25,800 --> 04:11:27,420
up because they they do have cameras

5571
04:11:27,420 --> 04:11:30,300
I'll do my best it was right here

5572
04:11:30,300 --> 04:11:32,699
we'll talk after yeah

5573
04:11:32,699 --> 04:11:33,720
um

5574
04:11:33,720 --> 04:11:41,030
there is a tree on the trail down

5575
04:11:41,040 --> 04:11:42,600
the tree on the trail has been removed

5576
04:11:42,600 --> 04:11:43,620
but the tree that's in there

5577
04:11:43,620 --> 04:11:45,720
right-of-way is not ours so that's what

5578
04:11:45,720 --> 04:11:46,500
I'm

5579
04:11:46,500 --> 04:11:49,140
we won't touch that with the tree on the

5580
04:11:49,140 --> 04:11:52,319
trail has been removed okay so but who's

5581
04:11:52,319 --> 04:11:54,420
going to remove the rest of it is that

5582
04:11:54,420 --> 04:11:56,340
dot dot

5583
04:11:56,340 --> 04:11:59,399
and and Dot should do it because it is

5584
04:11:59,399 --> 04:12:03,420
blocking up the um the the Gully

5585
04:12:03,420 --> 04:12:04,680
the ditch

5586
04:12:04,680 --> 04:12:07,080
the pitch in the ditch the pitch of the

5587
04:12:07,080 --> 04:12:09,359
ditch we can report a concern to on dot

5588
04:12:09,359 --> 04:12:11,760
yeah that'd be great and it's almost in

5589
04:12:11,760 --> 04:12:14,340
the road actually just tell them it's in

5590
04:12:14,340 --> 04:12:17,889
then they'll come out and do something

5591
04:12:17,899 --> 04:12:20,760
there was um they did the big speed

5592
04:12:20,760 --> 04:12:24,239
thing a month or so ago or a few weeks

5593
04:12:24,239 --> 04:12:25,920
ago

5594
04:12:25,920 --> 04:12:28,680
um we just got to have people just be

5595
04:12:28,680 --> 04:12:31,199
cognizant of of their speed going

5596
04:12:31,199 --> 04:12:33,420
through it's easy to speed down Joe Carr

5597
04:12:33,420 --> 04:12:36,300
it is and to say I haven't done it I'd

5598
04:12:36,300 --> 04:12:38,340
be lying so

5599
04:12:38,340 --> 04:12:40,380
but they have to be aware of it and

5600
04:12:40,380 --> 04:12:42,120
let's just try to work with everyone to

5601
04:12:42,120 --> 04:12:44,520
do this the speed thing

5602
04:12:44,520 --> 04:12:46,319
um

5603
04:12:46,319 --> 04:12:49,260
I want to thank I truly truly want to

5604
04:12:49,260 --> 04:12:51,239
thank Village

5605
04:12:51,239 --> 04:12:52,859
staff

5606
04:12:52,859 --> 04:12:55,859
and Council for all the hard work that

5607
04:12:55,859 --> 04:12:57,960
went into the Tullamore and Amber

5608
04:12:57,960 --> 04:13:01,199
Meadows situation I mean that took a lot

5609
04:13:01,199 --> 04:13:02,520
of time

5610
04:13:02,520 --> 04:13:05,699
a lot of time was spent on that and to

5611
04:13:05,699 --> 04:13:07,380
be able to come come away with this and

5612
04:13:07,380 --> 04:13:09,060
I think we can just use this as an

5613
04:13:09,060 --> 04:13:12,239
example for us because we we should all

5614
04:13:12,239 --> 04:13:15,239
look to improve ourselves as a council

5615
04:13:15,239 --> 04:13:18,840
to to take to to walk away from as best

5616
04:13:18,840 --> 04:13:20,880
we can to walk away with every situation

5617
04:13:20,880 --> 04:13:23,399
that we come in with a win-win where

5618
04:13:23,399 --> 04:13:26,040
it's not a win lose it's not a tie tie

5619
04:13:26,040 --> 04:13:27,720
or whatever but it's a win-win and

5620
04:13:27,720 --> 04:13:30,300
that's a great example of a win-win and

5621
04:13:30,300 --> 04:13:32,399
I think that helps all of us so thanks

5622
04:13:32,399 --> 04:13:36,120
thank Council truly thank Council and

5623
04:13:36,120 --> 04:13:38,880
staff for for really working through

5624
04:13:38,880 --> 04:13:42,899
that through that situation I'm going to

5625
04:13:42,899 --> 04:13:45,840
go back to Kim's piece on because this

5626
04:13:45,840 --> 04:13:48,479
isn't the first it's not the second and

5627
04:13:48,479 --> 04:13:51,300
it's not the third time that one of us

5628
04:13:51,300 --> 04:13:54,779
on this Council have been have been

5629
04:13:54,779 --> 04:13:55,380
um

5630
04:13:55,380 --> 04:13:59,300
an insinuation has been made or a

5631
04:13:59,300 --> 04:14:01,819
statement statement has been made about

5632
04:14:01,819 --> 04:14:04,800
bribes and payoffs and the only thing I

5633
04:14:04,800 --> 04:14:07,020
can say to that if if someone truly

5634
04:14:07,020 --> 04:14:08,939
believes that before you make a

5635
04:14:08,939 --> 04:14:10,439
statement like that just know that

5636
04:14:10,439 --> 04:14:12,420
you're you're really you're really

5637
04:14:12,420 --> 04:14:14,220
spitting in someone's face from an

5638
04:14:14,220 --> 04:14:16,859
Integrity standpoint I don't appreciate

5639
04:14:16,859 --> 04:14:18,899
it and if you think that I'm taking a

5640
04:14:18,899 --> 04:14:20,760
bribe where I'm taking a kickback or I'm

5641
04:14:20,760 --> 04:14:24,120
getting a payoff please come to me and

5642
04:14:24,120 --> 04:14:26,760
or or any of us or come to the come to

5643
04:14:26,760 --> 04:14:29,460
the town The Village manager and address

5644
04:14:29,460 --> 04:14:33,479
that in a way that that has context and

5645
04:14:33,479 --> 04:14:35,640
content around it and if you want to

5646
04:14:35,640 --> 04:14:38,040
audit me please feel free to do it

5647
04:14:38,040 --> 04:14:40,260
you're gonna you're gonna pay for it but

5648
04:14:40,260 --> 04:14:42,359
please understand on the back side of

5649
04:14:42,359 --> 04:14:44,520
that there's going to be a significant

5650
04:14:44,520 --> 04:14:47,460
penalty for you for making that claim

5651
04:14:47,460 --> 04:14:50,160
now I don't know what form that comes in

5652
04:14:50,160 --> 04:14:52,859
I'm not I'm not threatening anyone but

5653
04:14:52,859 --> 04:14:54,600
you're threatening me and you're

5654
04:14:54,600 --> 04:14:56,760
threatening this Council and I think

5655
04:14:56,760 --> 04:14:58,680
it's completely and totally unfair we're

5656
04:14:58,680 --> 04:15:00,479
just trying to do our jobs if you don't

5657
04:15:00,479 --> 04:15:02,399
like the job that we're doing

5658
04:15:02,399 --> 04:15:04,859
come November please just just don't

5659
04:15:04,859 --> 04:15:06,060
vote for me

5660
04:15:06,060 --> 04:15:08,160
I I'll just tell you for me don't vote

5661
04:15:08,160 --> 04:15:10,080
for me if you think I'm if you think I

5662
04:15:10,080 --> 04:15:12,000
would go to the level of taking a bribe

5663
04:15:12,000 --> 04:15:13,140
or a payoff

5664
04:15:13,140 --> 04:15:15,600
please don't vote for me

5665
04:15:15,600 --> 04:15:17,880
and that's all I can say but but it's it

5666
04:15:17,880 --> 04:15:21,000
let's have a discussion to Kim's point

5667
04:15:21,000 --> 04:15:22,920
when when you come with coffee with

5668
04:15:22,920 --> 04:15:24,720
counselor you come to this counsel with

5669
04:15:24,720 --> 04:15:25,739
something

5670
04:15:25,739 --> 04:15:29,760
I hope that we are showing you the same

5671
04:15:29,760 --> 04:15:32,580
level of respect that we deserve in

5672
04:15:32,580 --> 04:15:33,420
return

5673
04:15:33,420 --> 04:15:37,080
and if we can start there I

5674
04:15:37,080 --> 04:15:39,300
we can get a lot of things done and we

5675
04:15:39,300 --> 04:15:42,000
can make this a good Community for all

5676
04:15:42,000 --> 04:15:45,479
of us and be a win-win for all of us but

5677
04:15:45,479 --> 04:15:47,939
it's frustrating to have people say

5678
04:15:47,939 --> 04:15:50,880
bribes and and payoffs because I've

5679
04:15:50,880 --> 04:15:52,620
heard I've heard it now for for three

5680
04:15:52,620 --> 04:15:56,340
years and I I haven't seen the nickel of

5681
04:15:56,340 --> 04:15:57,239
it yet

5682
04:15:57,239 --> 04:16:00,060
and don't want to I don't ever what I do

5683
04:16:00,060 --> 04:16:02,640
what I do here is because I I believe in

5684
04:16:02,640 --> 04:16:04,319
it and it's certainly not because

5685
04:16:04,319 --> 04:16:06,660
someone has given me a dime or wants me

5686
04:16:06,660 --> 04:16:08,880
to do something in return with that

5687
04:16:08,880 --> 04:16:11,340
thanks to the law enforcement for all

5688
04:16:11,340 --> 04:16:14,520
you do and staff you do you guys do an

5689
04:16:14,520 --> 04:16:16,380
amazing job

5690
04:16:16,380 --> 04:16:18,840
for what for the residents of Marvin

5691
04:16:18,840 --> 04:16:22,739
thank you again

5692
04:16:22,739 --> 04:16:24,300
Kim

5693
04:16:24,300 --> 04:16:29,090
ditto to what Jamie said

5694
04:16:29,100 --> 04:16:31,979
now my turn

5695
04:16:31,979 --> 04:16:33,479
um I was going right down the same path

5696
04:16:33,479 --> 04:16:35,580
you were thinking uh right away thanking

5697
04:16:35,580 --> 04:16:37,979
Staff Hunter I know he's not here but he

5698
04:16:37,979 --> 04:16:40,199
did a lot of work Christina obviously

5699
04:16:40,199 --> 04:16:43,439
and specifically the two HOA presidents

5700
04:16:43,439 --> 04:16:46,620
Amber Meadows and Tullamore who it's a

5701
04:16:46,620 --> 04:16:49,140
thankless job but they were on your side

5702
04:16:49,140 --> 04:16:51,300
in the community and to Jamie's Point

5703
04:16:51,300 --> 04:16:54,779
getting to a resolution where it win-win

5704
04:16:54,779 --> 04:16:57,239
and everyone walks away feeling right

5705
04:16:57,239 --> 04:16:59,939
and more importantly we're doing getting

5706
04:16:59,939 --> 04:17:03,180
things back in order there are some what

5707
04:17:03,180 --> 04:17:04,500
do you want us if you want to call it

5708
04:17:04,500 --> 04:17:07,020
sins of our fathers doing things that we

5709
04:17:07,020 --> 04:17:08,819
couldn't control we were handed what we

5710
04:17:08,819 --> 04:17:09,540
were

5711
04:17:09,540 --> 04:17:12,660
handed but the key is to making it right

5712
04:17:12,660 --> 04:17:14,279
and I think that's what we accomplished

5713
04:17:14,279 --> 04:17:16,199
yesterday

5714
04:17:16,199 --> 04:17:18,239
um quick uh prayers to all that are

5715
04:17:18,239 --> 04:17:20,399
affected in the Florida Georgia South

5716
04:17:20,399 --> 04:17:22,760
Carolina North Carolina

5717
04:17:22,760 --> 04:17:25,560
recent hurricane that has passed through

5718
04:17:25,560 --> 04:17:27,300
we're heading down to the beach this

5719
04:17:27,300 --> 04:17:30,120
weekend for vacation and we'll probably

5720
04:17:30,120 --> 04:17:32,699
see some things that we'll need to clean

5721
04:17:32,699 --> 04:17:34,620
up so hoping everything goes well there

5722
04:17:34,620 --> 04:17:37,920
continue prayers also to those displaced

5723
04:17:37,920 --> 04:17:40,460
and our loss in Hawaii as well

5724
04:17:40,460 --> 04:17:44,100
and um I think Bob mentioned this a

5725
04:17:44,100 --> 04:17:46,080
little bit uh they had a little

5726
04:17:46,080 --> 04:17:48,540
um event if you want to call it from the

5727
04:17:48,540 --> 04:17:51,720
sheriff's department 131 citations I

5728
04:17:51,720 --> 04:17:53,580
think were mentioned that were pulled

5729
04:17:53,580 --> 04:17:56,340
over that's a lot of speeding guys a lot

5730
04:17:56,340 --> 04:17:57,479
of tickets

5731
04:17:57,479 --> 04:17:59,880
um if you got one shame on you but uh

5732
04:17:59,880 --> 04:18:04,979
slow down and uh it's uh you know this

5733
04:18:04,979 --> 04:18:06,420
is not just saying this because school

5734
04:18:06,420 --> 04:18:08,279
is back in which you know a lot of us

5735
04:18:08,279 --> 04:18:10,439
are happy our kids are back to school

5736
04:18:10,439 --> 04:18:13,140
but uh you know there's more important

5737
04:18:13,140 --> 04:18:15,899
reasons to be slowing and letting off

5738
04:18:15,899 --> 04:18:18,840
the thing another note

5739
04:18:18,840 --> 04:18:19,620
um

5740
04:18:19,620 --> 04:18:22,620
elections are coming up for local

5741
04:18:22,620 --> 04:18:25,260
elections I just want to point out that

5742
04:18:25,260 --> 04:18:28,199
I'm running unopposed however do take it

5743
04:18:28,199 --> 04:18:30,720
seriously and I'm offering to any group

5744
04:18:30,720 --> 04:18:34,260
or event anybody who wants a host a

5745
04:18:34,260 --> 04:18:36,540
neighborhood where you want to hear from

5746
04:18:36,540 --> 04:18:38,880
me obviously we have coffee with Council

5747
04:18:38,880 --> 04:18:41,399
you can come and talk to the members you

5748
04:18:41,399 --> 04:18:42,720
can wait to the ones that are being

5749
04:18:42,720 --> 04:18:44,699
elected or I will make myself available

5750
04:18:44,699 --> 04:18:47,279
I'm sure Bob and Jamie would extend that

5751
04:18:47,279 --> 04:18:50,939
as well but I'd like to see some some

5752
04:18:50,939 --> 04:18:53,520
dialogue respectful dialogue that we can

5753
04:18:53,520 --> 04:18:55,560
share about the future what's going on

5754
04:18:55,560 --> 04:18:58,439
here because it's it's finally we're at

5755
04:18:58,439 --> 04:19:01,699
a point where things are getting done

5756
04:19:01,699 --> 04:19:06,479
and you know I I I I can clearly hold my

5757
04:19:06,479 --> 04:19:08,580
head high with what I think is happening

5758
04:19:08,580 --> 04:19:10,560
within the village and it's I think

5759
04:19:10,560 --> 04:19:13,199
we're going in the right direction

5760
04:19:13,199 --> 04:19:16,010
um

5761
04:19:16,020 --> 04:19:20,220
last thing I'm a big supporter of our

5762
04:19:20,220 --> 04:19:22,020
schools we're very involved my wife and

5763
04:19:22,020 --> 04:19:25,140
I she's on the uh she's the band booster

5764
04:19:25,140 --> 04:19:27,540
president and I'm I'm in charge of Pitt

5765
04:19:27,540 --> 04:19:29,880
but that's one of the groups within the

5766
04:19:29,880 --> 04:19:31,380
high school that doesn't get a lot of

5767
04:19:31,380 --> 04:19:34,560
funding so uh you know we're doing the

5768
04:19:34,560 --> 04:19:36,180
go play save again they're thirty

5769
04:19:36,180 --> 04:19:38,460
dollars is over sixty one hundred

5770
04:19:38,460 --> 04:19:40,500
dollars in or sixty two hundred dollars

5771
04:19:40,500 --> 04:19:42,960
in local savings on everything from

5772
04:19:42,960 --> 04:19:45,600
grocery stores to you name it it's easy

5773
04:19:45,600 --> 04:19:47,760
to get your money back on that and half

5774
04:19:47,760 --> 04:19:51,180
of the proceeds go to the band uh

5775
04:19:51,180 --> 04:19:53,640
members and we work on a really tight

5776
04:19:53,640 --> 04:19:56,160
budget you think the village is tight I

5777
04:19:56,160 --> 04:19:58,560
would tell you the band is very tight so

5778
04:19:58,560 --> 04:20:00,479
um but we're looking forward to a great

5779
04:20:00,479 --> 04:20:02,819
season lots of competitions coming up

5780
04:20:02,819 --> 04:20:05,220
and we're definitely looking forward to

5781
04:20:05,220 --> 04:20:06,899
that so

5782
04:20:06,899 --> 04:20:10,199
um with that I will ask that we

5783
04:20:10,199 --> 04:20:12,359
close and uh

5784
04:20:12,359 --> 04:20:14,880
end our meeting so I moved all is in

5785
04:20:14,880 --> 04:20:17,660
favor hi hi