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>>> GOOD MORNING.

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IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY,

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IT IS OPENING DAY

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FOR THE NATIONALS. IT IS OPENING

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HOUR FOR THE PLANNING BOARD.

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IT IS SUNNY, AND WE ARE READY TO

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GET TO WORK. BUT, I DO NOTE

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THAT ON MARCH 30th,

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I'M SORRY -- MARCH 30th, 1944,

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MONTGOMERY COUNTY RESIDENTS RECEIVED

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AN UPDATE ON THE CIVILIAN FOOD SUPPLY

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FROM THE OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION.

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THEY PROMISED A MORE ABUNDANT FOOD

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SUPPLY THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR,

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WITH POTATOES, CABBAGE, WIDELY

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AVAILABLE ALONG WITH CARROTS, BEETS,

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SPINACH, PEANUTS, BUTTER, AND EGGS.

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VERY EXCITING NEWS IN 1944.

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WE HAVE A FULL CALENDAR TODAY.

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WE HAVE ALSO A

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FULL BOARD TODAY. ALTHOUGH,

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COMMISSIONER BARTLEY JUST LEFT

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FOR A SECOND. HE WILL BE BACK.

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COMMISSIONER PEDOEEM IS ON VIRTUALLY,

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BUT WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS HERE, AND

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WE ARE GRATEFUL, AND HAPPY ABOUT

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THAT.

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WE HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY ITEMS,

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I WOULD LIKE SHAWN TO GET BACK.

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BUT, WE WILL TALK AMONGST OURSELVES

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FOR A SECOND.

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NOW, WE HAVE A -- WE WILL

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HEAR FROM OVER 60 RESIDENTS TODAY,

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IT WILL BE A BUSY DAY

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BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE DURING THE

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DAY AND THIS EVENING.

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WE HAVE A NIGHT SESSION THAT STARTS

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AT 5:30, AND THAT WILL START OFF

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BY A BRIEFING BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

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ON WHAT

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THEY ARE DOING ON LITTLE FALLS AND

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THE BACKGROUND.

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WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED TOGETHER.

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THEN, WE WILL HEAR FROM SOME 41

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RESIDENTS HERE THEREAFTER.

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DURING THIS AFTERNOON'S SESSION,

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WE HAVE 20 PEOPLE SIGNED UP

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FOR 9801 GEORGIA AVENUE.

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BUT, I THINK I WILL

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PROCEED WITH RECORD PLATS, AND

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GO FORWARD.

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SINCE WE DO HAVE A REAL DAY TODAY.

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ALL RIGHT.

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WE HAVE -- LET'S SEE.

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ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE RECORD

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PLATS AND I WILL GO THROUGH THEM.

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WE HAVE SUBDIVISION PLAT

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20 21 0004,

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BRADLEY FARMS.

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SUBDIVISION PLAT 220 23 0510,

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FOSSETT FARMS.

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AND THEN, I HAVE A CORRECTION TO

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THE MATERIAL IN THE WRITTEN INFORMATION

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ON A PLAT NUMBER, IT

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IS SUBDIVISION PLAT

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220-2360 BROOK FORM.

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THE OTHER NUMBER IS INCORRECT.

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WE HAVE SUBDIVISION PLAT

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BY NOAH WOODS. I HOPE I PRONOUNCED

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THAT RIGHT.

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THE

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STAFF INFORMS US THAT THEY ARE ALL

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READY TO GO,

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AND THEY ARE READY TO SPEAK.

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>> YES, FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED

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TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE CHEVY CHASE

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SECTION 4 D ON THERE, THAT

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IS 220230450, AS WELL.

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>> WHICH ONE?

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>> CHEVY CHASE, SECTION 4 "D".

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>> OH, YEAH,

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IT WAS THE LAST PAGE OF MY --

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>> NO WORRIES. THANK YOU.

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>> WELL, THAT MAKES THEM ALL --

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YES, AGAIN, THAT WAS SUBDIVISION

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SECTION 4-D. I WILL ENTERTAIN A

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MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE PLATS.

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>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD

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LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

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THAT WE APPROVE -- I'M NOT GOING

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TO REPEAT THE INTRO

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OF THE NUMBERS. BUT,

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DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE

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WITH THE CHANGE TO

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-- YOU MENTIONED --

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YES, PARTICULAR WITH THE CHANGE

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THAT WE ARE MAKING

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TO THE GROUP FARM. SO, I WOULD

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LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THEM

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AS A GROUP.

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>> DO I HEAR A SECOND?

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>> SECOND.

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FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

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>> AYE.

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>> AYE. >> AYE.

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>> 50'S, NOBODY

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OPPOSED, NOBODY ABSTAINING.

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WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM THREE,

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RIGHT AWAY. REGULATORY EXTENSION

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REQUEST. WE HAVE

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CENTURY, REGULATORY REVIEW EXTENSION

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REQUEST NUMBER THREE,

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FOR SKETCH PLAN 32016602 A.

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PRELIMINARY PLAN

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AND SITE PLAN 82003007F.

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WE HAVE PRELIMINARY PLAN

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NUMBER 11980032 A,

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THIRD EXTENSION.

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AND THOSE ARE THE EXTENSIONS FOR

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THE DAY.

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AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL

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OF BOTH OF THESE AND THERE ARE NO

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SPEAKERS. CAN I HEAR A MOTION?

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>> I MOTION TO APPROVE.

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I MOTION TO APPROVE.

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>> OKAY.

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>> IT'S OKAY. DO I HEAR A SECOND?

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>> I WILL SECOND.

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>> OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND AND A

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>> OKAY.

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HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION,

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

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>> AYE. >> AYE.

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>> 5-0, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> CAN WE JUMP BACK TO THE RESOLUTIONS, PLEASE?

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>> EXCUSE ME?

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>> CAN WE JUMP BACK TO THE RESOLUTIONS?

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ITEM ONE?

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>> DID I MISS THE RESOLUTIONS?

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>> WE WERE WAITING FOR COMMISSIONER

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BARTLEY, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY

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COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE ON THE RESOLUTIONS.

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>> REMEMBER,

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IN THE DAY, WE HAD TWO PEOPLE,

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THREE PEOPLE? WE HAVE TO APPROVE

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THE RESOLUTION, SO WE NEED A QUORUM,

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ALL MEMBERS PRESENT. LET'S SEE,

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ARE THE VOTING RESTRICTIONS ON THE

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RESOLUTIONS?

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>> SO, FOR THE LARSEN PROPERTY RESOLUTION,

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THE ELIGIBLE COMMISSIONER IS TO

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PARTICIPATE, VICE CHAIR PINERO,

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AND COMMISSIONER BARTLEY AND COMMISSIONER

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HEDRICK.

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AND THEN FOR THE LAKE RESOLUTION, THE COMMISSIONERS

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WHO ARE PRESENT AND ARE THEREFORE

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COMMISSIONER BARTLEY, COMMISSIONER

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>> OKAY. SO, WE HAVE LARSEN PROPERTY

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TO VOTE, WHICH IS EVERYBODY BUT

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>> OH, OKAY.

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>> I VOTE THAT WE MOVED TO APPROVE

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THE PROPERTY SUBDIVISION PLAN.

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>> I SECOND IT.

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>> OKAY.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

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>> AYE POINT

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>> OKAY, THAT IS THREE AYE, ALL

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THOSE OPPOSED? NO. TWO

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ABSTENTIONS. DO YOU ABSTAIN? >> YES.

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>> TWO ABSTENTIONS.

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AND THEN, WE HAVE SENECA PLACE SITE

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PLAN NUMBER EIGHT.

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FOR ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.

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MOTION, PLEASE?

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>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE

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THAT WE APPROVE THE SENECA PLACE

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SITE PLAN.

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VICE CHAIR

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PINERO IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE ON

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THIS ITEM, HE WAS NOT PRESENT FOR

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THE -- I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WAS UNCLEAR.

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>> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, I APOLOGIZE.

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>> IT WILL BE CHAIR ZYONTZ, COMMISSIONER

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BARTLEY, COMMISSIONER HEDRICK.

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>> I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT IT.

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>> SECOND IT.

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>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

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>> AYE. >> OPPOSED?

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>> I ABSTAIN.

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>> OKAY, 3-0-2.

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OKAY.

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THANK YOU. I KNEW THAT WAS MORE

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COMPLICATED THAN I COULD DEAL WITH

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ON OPENING DAY. OKAY.

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TODAY IS OPENING DAY. OKAY.

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WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FOUR, WHICH

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IS THE OPERATING BUDGET DISCUSSION

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ON ACCOUNTING EXECUTIVES RECOMMENDATION.

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THIS MIGHT BE NEW TO SOME

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COMMISSIONERS. YOU KNOW, WE, OF

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COURSE, SUBMITTED OR BUDGET,

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THE EXECUTIVE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION

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I'M WAY AHEAD. I DIDN'T

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SEE THE MEETING RESUME.

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>>> WELCOME BACK

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TO THE OPENING DAY MEETING OF THE

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PLANNING BOARD. WE ARE ON ITEM

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4, THE OPERATING BUDGET DISCUSSION

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ON THE COUNTY

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EXECUTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK

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MR. KROLL

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IS ON TEAMS FOR US TO READ

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THIS OFF.

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>> YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

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LET ME PREFACE THIS WHOLE THING

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BY REMINDING YOU

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THAT WE SPOKE BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS

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LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK'S PLANNING

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BOARD MEETING. I SHARED WITH YOU,

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THIS SUMMARY TABLE OF THE REDUCTIONS

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THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO

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MEET THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S RECOMMENDED

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BUDGET.

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YOU HAVE A PACKAGE IN FRONT OF

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YOU, 14 PAGES, SUMMARY OF ALL

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OF THE AMOUNTS

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NEEDED TO MEET THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S

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BUDGET, AND THE DETAIL FOR EACH

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OF THOSE

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PROPOSED NON-RECOMMENDED REDUCTIONS

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IS IN YOUR PACKET. WE HAVE ALL OF

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THE DEPARTMENTS IN ATTENDANCE TO

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ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

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WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION,

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PER SE. WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU LOOKED

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AT YOUR PACKETS AND PERHAPS HAVE

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SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO SOME OR

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ALL OF THE PROPOSED REDUCTIONS.

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I WOULD ALSO REMIND YOU

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THAT THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS WILL

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ALSO BE PRESENTED TO THE PRINCE

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GEORGE'S PLANNING BOARD

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FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AS

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WELL. AND THEN, THE NEXT STEPS AFTER

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ALL OF THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED,

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IS

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THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY COUNSEL STAFF

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WILL PROVIDE US WITH A NUMBER OF

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QUESTIONS, ONE OF WHICH WILL BE

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RELATED TO THIS, HOW WE ARE INTENDING

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TO MEET THE CDS REDUCTIONS.

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THIS WILL BE IN WHATEVER IS DECIDED

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TODAY, AND SUCH WILL BE INCLUDED

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IN THOSE ANSWERS.

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STAFF WILL THEN PREPARE A PACKET

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FOR THE PHP COMMITTEE FOR THEIR

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REVIEW ON APRIL 1st. AND THOSE ARE

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THE NEXT STEPS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

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I HAVE SHARED MY SCREEN, I WOULD

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BE HAPPY TO PULL UP ANY PAGE RELATED

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TO ANY DEPARTMENT.

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OTHERWISE, I AM REQUESTING ANY QUESTIONS

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FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.

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>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

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WILL ANY OF THIS REDUCTION RESULT

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IN

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THE LOSS OF PAID POSITIONS WITHIN

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THE ORGANIZATION?

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>> PERHAPS REQUESTED

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POSITIONS, NOT EXISTING POSITIONS.

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AND CERTAINLY, NOT

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FILLED POSITIONS.

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>> WELL, WILL ANY CRITICAL PROGRAMS

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BE AFFECTED THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW,

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OR ELIMINATED, THAT ARE IN PLACE

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NOW? THANKS.

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>> GENERICALLY,

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WE HAVE A NUMBER OF IMPACTS SHOWN

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IN THE MEMO.

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ABOUT WHAT WILL OCCUR. GENERALLY,

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DELAYS TO PROGRAMS AND SUCH.

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I

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WOULD ASK, THOUGH, THAT ANY DEPARTMENTS

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THAT HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER

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TO YOUR QUESTION CHIME IN NOW.

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>> YEAH, MIKE REILLY, DIRECTOR OF

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PARKS. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION

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IS, YES. FOR THE PARK FUND, JOHN,

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IF YOU COULD GET THE PARK PAGE

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UP?

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>> CERTAINLY.

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>> IN THE MEMO, IT HAS THE COLOR

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ON THE TOP HERE. JUST FOR CONTEXT,

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IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT DROVE THE PARKS

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BUDGET REQUEST UP,

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THE

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BIG NUMBER WAS COMPENSATION. IT

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WAS ALMOST UP 5% BECAUSE OF COMPENSATION.

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AS YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE

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NEGOTIATES

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LABOR AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNIONS,

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IN ADVANCE OF THE COMMISSION.

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THE BIGGEST

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UNION IN OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS

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THE NGO, ABOUT 40% OF OUR WORKERS.

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AND WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THOSE

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NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE HAVE A MARKER

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FOR COMPENSATIONS, LARGELY BASED

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ON WHAT WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY

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HAS ALREADY DONE.

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AND WE PROJECT THAT FOR THE PARK

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FUND, OUR LABOR COST WILL GO UP

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5% ALONE, AND FOR CONTEXT, THE COUNTY

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EXECUTIVE'S TOTAL INCREASE FOR THE

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PARK FUND WAS 4.2%, EXCLUSIVELY

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WITH THAT SERVICE. SO, IT DOESN'T

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EVEN COVER COMPENSATING OUR EMPLOYEES. BEYOND

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THAT, WE HAVE NEARLY 2% OF COST

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DRIVERS THAT WE CALL OUT ON COMMITMENTS,

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THAT IS INFLATION ON SUPPLIES AND

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CONTRACTS. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, TO

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MAINTAIN THE PARKS SYSTEM, WE HAVE

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A SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY BUDGET TO

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BUY GRASS SEED AND FERTILIZER, AND

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MULCH FOR THE PRINT PLAYGROUNDS.

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THERE IS INFLATIONARY THERE, AND

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THEN WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONTRACTUAL

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BUDGET THAT HAS CONSUMER PRICE

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INDEX ESCALATION. THINGS LIKE PORTA

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JOHNS, AND MANY OTHER

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THINGS. THAT WENT UP 2%.

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SO, BASICALLY, A SAME SERVICE BUDGET

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FOR THE PARK FUND WOULD HAVE BEEN

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A LITTLE UNDER A 7% INCREASE, FOR

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SAME SERVICES. WE GOT A 4% INCREASE.

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SO, AS YOU LOOK AT THE PARK FUND

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TIER ONE RESTORATIONS, IF WE DON'T

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GET TIER ONE, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY

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REDUCED SERVICE BUDGET. TIER ONE,

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FOR US, IS

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THOSE CONTRACTUAL

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INCREASES THAT I SAID BASED ON

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CPI. THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO

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UP. SO,

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NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IF WE DON'T

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GET THAT MONEY, WE ARE GOING TO

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HAVE TO CUT SOMEWHERE. WE

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WILL NOT GET ANY STAFF TO MAINTAIN

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THE NEW PARKS WE HAVE BUILT, IT

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IS CALLED OPERATING BUDGET IMPACT.

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EVERY YEAR, WE LOOK AT NEW PARKS

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THAT HAVE COME ONLINE, PARKS THAT

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WE HAVE ACQUIRED, OR PARKS THAT

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WE HAVE UPGRADED, AND LOOKING AT

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THE COST TO MAINTAIN THEM, SO WE

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WOULDN'T GET THAT.

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WHICH MEANS, BASICALLY, YOU HAVE

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MORE STUFF TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN

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WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

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AND LASTLY, WE WOULD NOT GET INFLATIONARY

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INCREASES FOR SUPPLIES. SO, FOR

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THE PARK FUND, ABSOLUTELY. IF WE

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DON'T GET THE COUNSEL TO RESTORE

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TIER ONE, WHICH FOR US IS A REDUCED

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SERVICES BUDGET. FURTHERMORE, IN

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THE PARK FUND,

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YOU WILL SEE IN EVERYBODY'S MEMO,

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THERE IS A TIER THREE

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THAT WE EXPECT PROBABLY WILL

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NOT BE FUNDED, AND WHAT WE ARE DOING,

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IS WE ARE INCREASING OUR LAPSE,

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WHICH MEANS BASED ON THE NUMBER

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OF VACANCIES WE PROJECT, WE WOULD

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HAVE NEXT YEAR, WE ARE NOT GOING

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TO FUND A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF

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POSITIONS

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ON THE

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PREMISE THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN A

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VACANCY RATE IN THOSE POSITIONS,

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AND THOSE POSITIONS WILL NOT BE

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FILLED. SO,

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I HOPE THAT WAS A

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SUITABLE ANSWER. BUT, FOR THE PARK

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FUND, ABSOLUTELY, IF WE DO NOT GET RESTORATIONS, IT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY

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REDUCED SERVICE BUDGET.

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>> SIMILARLY, FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

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-- THIS IS TONYA, PLANNING DIRECTOR

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-- ESSENTIALLY, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES

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RECOMMENDED BUDGET IMPACT ON THE

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PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD ESSENTIALLY

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WIPE OUT THERE REQUESTED FUNDING

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FOR ALL OF OUR NEW PROJECTS NEXT

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YEAR. AS WELL AS REQUESTED FUNDING

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FOR FIVE POSITIONS. SO, IT WOULD

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BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT FOR

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US. IF YOU NOTE IN THE PACKET FOR

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TIER ONE, WE PRIORITIZE FOUR

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NEW PROJECTS

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RELATED TO OUR PLANNING WORK PROGRAM

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THAT WE FEEL ARE VERY CRITICAL

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FOR THIS TO RESTORE AND

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INCLUDE IN THEIR RECONCILIATION

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LIST. FOR EXAMPLE, THE REQUEST FOR

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MONTGOMERY 2050 IMPLEMENTATION

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METRICS, THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST

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IN MAKING SURE THAT WE TRACK HOW

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WELL IT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.

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WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS SUCH

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AS THE RANDOLPH ROAD CORRIDOR STUDY,

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THE MANAGEMENT PROJECT, AND THE

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EMPLOYMENT QUARTER STUDY. AND ADDITIONALLY,

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IN OUR TIER ONE,

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THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S PORTION

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FOR THE SECURITY,

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INFORMATION, AND EVENT MANAGEMENT

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TOOL.

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THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A CYBERSECURITY

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TOOL, AND THIS PROJECT IS ALSO PART

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OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TIER ONE,

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BECAUSE OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT SERVES

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BOTH DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN, SECONDLY,

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FOR TIER TWO, OUR MAIN

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PRIORITY IS

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THE FIVE MAIN POSITIONS. WE ARE

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WILLING TO DELAY HIRING FOR THREE

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MONTHS TO HAVE SOME SAVINGS. AND

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THEN, IN TIER THREE, TO DELAY HIRING

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BY TWO MONTHS, IS SOMETHING THAT

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WE CERTAINLY CAN DO AND WE CAN ADDITIONALLY

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DO IT BY AN ADDITIONAL

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THREE MONTHS WHICH WILL BE FIVE

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MONTHS, IN TOTAL, IF WE NEEDED TO.

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BUT, THE IMPORTANT THING IS, WE

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DEFINITELY DO NEED TO GET SOME FUNDING

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FOR THESE POSITIONS SO THAT WE CAN

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HIRE FOR THESE POSITIONS. PARTICULARLY,

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FOR THE NEWER COMMISSIONERS, SINCE

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YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE WENT OVER

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OUR FY 24 BUDGET REQUEST IN FALL.

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EACH ONE OF THOSE FIVE POSITIONS

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IS BASICALLY

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WORK THAT WE ARE ALREADY PAYING

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SOMEONE TO DO IN A CONTRACTUAL BASIS.

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AND OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE COME

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TO THE DETERMINATION THAT THESE

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ARE ACTUALLY ONGOING FUNCTIONS THAT

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WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO IN OUR

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DEPARTMENT. SO, THAT IS WHY WE REQUESTED

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FUNDING FOR THESE POSITIONS, SO

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THAT WE COULD MAKE IT PART OF OUR

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PERMANENT STAFFING COMPLIMENT. SO,

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AGAIN, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DETAILS

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IN THE PACKET, AND I AM HAPPY TO

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ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS.

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>> AND JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS

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THE TIER ARRANGEMENT, THE FIRST

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THING IN TIER ONE IS THE THING WE

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WANT MOST? WE WANT THAT BACK MOST.

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SO, IT GOES IN DECREASING ORDER

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ON OUR LIST. SO,

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TIER ONE

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IS MOST IMPORTANT TO US IN THE

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ORDER THAT WE PUT IT. TIER TWO IS

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THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT. AND TIER

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THREE IS SORT OF LIVABLE CUTS.

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BUT, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, PARTICULARLY,

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WOULD GET HIT HARDEST ON ITS CONSULTANT

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CONTRACTS. IT IS TIER ONE PRIORITIES

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IN HERE.

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SO, THAT IS THE WAY

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IT WORKS. I SEE COMMISSIONER ROBERTO

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HAS HIS HAND UP? >> CHAIR ZYONTZ?

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>> YES.

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>> COULD

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I JUST ALSO COMMENT ON OUR BUDGET,

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AS WELL? AS THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS

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DID.

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THE RECORD IS SOMETHING THAT CHANG

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SMITH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, FOR THE CENTRAL ADMINISTER THE SERVICES,

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YOU, TOO, WILL SEE SOME VERY SEVERE

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CUTS. A LOT OF BIG ONES,

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ESPECIALLY INCLUDING THE DELAY

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IN HIRING. OUR RECRUITER POSITION,

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THE ONE FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THAT

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IS THREE MONTHS PLUS AN ADDITIONAL

515
00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:49,128
TWO MONTHS YOU WILL SEE IN THE

516
00:23:49,128 --> 00:23:52,128
TOTAL REDUCTIONS. WE ARE EXPERIENCING

517
00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:54,131
A

518
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,730
SURGE IN THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS.

519
00:24:01,730 --> 00:24:03,750
IN FACT, IT NEARLY DOUBLED THE AMOUNT

520
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:04,760
WE HAVE HAD IN PAST YEARS. AND THE

521
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,780
AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS, WE HAD OVER

522
00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:09,780
36,000 RESUMES TO REVIEW, IN ADDITION

523
00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:10,820
TO FILLING 850 POSITIONS. AND WE

524
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:11,830
ONLY HAVE FOUR RECRUITERS, CURRENTLY.

525
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:14,530
SO, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP

526
00:24:14,530 --> 00:24:16,550
UP ANY SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.

527
00:24:16,550 --> 00:24:18,570
WE WERE ASKING FOR THREE RECRUITER

528
00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:19,580
POSITIONS. TWO WERE GOING TO BE

529
00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:20,250
DELAYED TWO MONTHS, THE OTHER ONE

530
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:21,260
WILL BE DELAYED FIVE MONTHS. SIMILARLY,

531
00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,996
FOR OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE REQUEST

532
00:24:23,996 --> 00:24:26,396
FOR A COMPLIANCE OFFICER

533
00:24:26,999 --> 00:24:28,967
WAS PUT IN THE BUDGET, AND

534
00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:31,971
THAT IS GOING TO BE CUT SEVERELY,

535
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:32,971
AS WELL, FOR SEVEN MONTHS. AND

536
00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:33,972
ALSO, WITH RESPECT TO OUR I.T. DEPARTMENTS,

537
00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:36,372
WITH OUR CYBERSECURITY SPECIALIST,

538
00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:37,976
AND ALSO OUR WEB SPECIALISTS AND

539
00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:40,376
FINANCE DEPARTMENT, D-LINE HIRING

540
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:43,380
FOR TWO CORPORATE ERP

541
00:24:43,949 --> 00:24:44,950
BUSINESS ANALYSTS, WHICH ARE THE

542
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:47,920
FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASSISTING

543
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,920
WITH THE VERY LARGE ERP

544
00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:54,893
REDESIGN AND NEW INTEGRATION PROGRAM.

545
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:57,893
THE ERP SYSTEM IS BASICALLY

546
00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:03,869
THE BACKBONE FOR THE COMMISSION,

547
00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:04,870
FOR ALL OF THE HIRING, PAYMENTS,

548
00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:05,871
AND ALL OF THAT. A VERY IMPORTANT

549
00:25:05,871 --> 00:25:07,873
STUFF, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SYSTEMS

550
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:08,874
ARE WORKING, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

551
00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:10,876
SO, WE DEED NEED THOSE FOLKS IN

552
00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:12,878
PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT PROGRAM

553
00:25:12,878 --> 00:25:14,847
GOES AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.

554
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:17,816
>> THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY THAT

555
00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:20,816
IS DIFFERENT IN CE'S BUDGET,

556
00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:21,820
IS THAT

557
00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:24,823
THE CUTS ARE DELAYS IN HIRING, WHEREAS

558
00:25:24,823 --> 00:25:26,823
IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS,

559
00:25:27,793 --> 00:25:30,793
IT IS NOT DOING STUFF

560
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:34,767
THAT IS CRITICAL TO

561
00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:37,767
THEIR ONGOING PROGRAMS, IN SOME

562
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:39,772
CASES, OR NEW INITIATIVES. BUT,

563
00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:42,741
THERE IS THAT DIFFERENCE THERE.

564
00:25:42,741 --> 00:25:45,744
NOW, I WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER

565
00:25:45,744 --> 00:25:47,744
ROBERTO.

566
00:25:49,715 --> 00:25:52,718
>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AFTER

567
00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,718
HEARING

568
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,121
MR. RILEY, I AGREE

569
00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:02,324
THAT THIS IS A BIG HIT.

570
00:26:03,695 --> 00:26:06,632
4.5% IS A BIG HIT, NOT ONLY IN

571
00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:09,635
TIER ONE, BUT ALSO IN TIER TWO.

572
00:26:09,635 --> 00:26:10,636
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT

573
00:26:10,636 --> 00:26:12,638
THE VACANCIES WE HAVE IN THE STAFF,

574
00:26:12,638 --> 00:26:14,640
AND HOW WE NEED TO BUILD UP OUR

575
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,642
STAFF, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS A TIER

576
00:26:16,642 --> 00:26:19,645
TWO ISSUE. THAT MS. YOUNG HAS BROUGHT

577
00:26:19,645 --> 00:26:22,614
UP. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT

578
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,614
TWO STORIES

579
00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:28,617
THAT I GUESS DECIDED TO

580
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:31,623
BE DELAYED. ONE OF THEM IS THE

581
00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:33,559
CLEMENT AREA. I

582
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,562
THINK THAT AREA IS PART OF OUR EQUITY

583
00:26:36,562 --> 00:26:38,530
AREA.

584
00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:39,531
GEORGIA RANDOLPH WOULD REALLY NEED

585
00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,533
TO LOOK AT HOW THAT AREA DEVELOPS,

586
00:26:41,533 --> 00:26:44,533
PARTICULARLY WITH THE GLENMONT SHOPPING

587
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:46,936
CENTER. THAT AREA REALLY

588
00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:49,539
SHOULD BE

589
00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:51,543
A PRIORITY, AND I HOPE WE GET THE

590
00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:54,546
FUNDS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO LOOK

591
00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:57,516
AT THAT. THE OTHER ONE IS THE REDLINE

592
00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:59,516
AND SEGREGATION.

593
00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:04,490
WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND

594
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:06,458
I KNOW THE COUNTY COUNSEL IS INTERESTED

595
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:07,459
IN THE TYPE OF WORK WE HAVE DONE,

596
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:09,461
REGARDING REDLINING. SO, I AM HOPING

597
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,431
THAT THE COUNCIL TAKES THAT INTO

598
00:27:12,431 --> 00:27:14,431
CONSIDERATION

599
00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:17,433
WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE

600
00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:20,439
COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THAT WE DO GET

601
00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:22,439
THE FUNDS

602
00:27:24,443 --> 00:27:27,379
WHERE WE CREATED ALL THAT DATA THAT

603
00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:29,779
NEEDS TO BE EXPENDED.

604
00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:32,384
THOSE ARE MY TWO POINTS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

605
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:37,184
>> WE ALWAYS TRY AS BEST AS WE CAN

606
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:40,359
TO GET THE COUNCIL TO REINSTATE

607
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,360
THESE BUDGETS AS WE GO FORWARD.

608
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,560
BUT, IT IS ALWAYS AN EFFORT, TOO.

609
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:49,332
COMMISSIONER PEDOEEM?

610
00:27:50,335 --> 00:27:52,335
>> GOOD MORNING.

611
00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:54,306
BEING FAMILIAR, IN

612
00:27:54,306 --> 00:27:57,309
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, I WAS DOING

613
00:27:57,309 --> 00:28:00,279
THE BUDGET AND I TOTALLY

614
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,279
CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THESE TEARS

615
00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,282
ARE PREPLANNED.

616
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,685
I DO BELIEVE THAT

617
00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:12,288
TIER ONE IS REALLY DETRIMENTAL

618
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,291
TO THE HEALTH

619
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:17,229
OF THE DEPARTMENTS, AND

620
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:20,198
WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO SUPPORT TIER

621
00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:23,198
ONE FOR BOTH PARKS, PLANNING,

622
00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:25,202
AND CAS.

623
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:28,204
I ALSO BELIEVE

624
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:32,207
THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT

625
00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,611
SOME OF THE ITEMS

626
00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:40,185
AT PARKS AND PLANNING FOR TIER

627
00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:42,585
TWO TO GO THERE.

628
00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:48,126
THAT HAS ALWAYS CUSTOMARILY GOTTEN

629
00:28:48,126 --> 00:28:49,127
A LOT OF CUTS IN THE BUDGET. AND

630
00:28:49,127 --> 00:28:52,970
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE

631
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:55,100
STAFF, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE

632
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,102
SUPPORT THE CAS TO HAVE A STAFF

633
00:28:57,102 --> 00:29:00,105
TO HIRE NEW STAFF, EVEN THOUGH AT

634
00:29:00,105 --> 00:29:02,105
THE TIME

635
00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:04,109
I WAS AT DPS, THE COUNTY HAD

636
00:29:04,109 --> 00:29:07,109
AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VACANCIES.

637
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,810
THAT IS EVERYWHERE.

638
00:29:09,810 --> 00:29:12,500
PEOPLE ARE MOVING, THEY ARE RETIRING,

639
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,500
AND PEOPLE IN

640
00:29:15,530 --> 00:29:17,550
HR HAVE, YOU KNOW,

641
00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:20,250
A LOT OF BACKLOG TO HIRE THESE PEOPLE.

642
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:21,994
IT IS GOING TO IMPACT

643
00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:23,996
EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THAT REGARD.

644
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,999
SO, I JUST SUPPORT THE TIER ONE,

645
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:28,999
AND ALSO SOME

646
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,402
ITEMS FROM TIER TWO.

647
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,800
>> I CERTAINLY THINK THE COUNCIL

648
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,976
IS GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN

649
00:29:37,976 --> 00:29:39,945
VACANCIES, AND WE HAVE BEEN MAKING

650
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:42,948
ALL EFFORTS TO FILL JOBS. OF COURSE,

651
00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:45,348
ONCE YOU FILL THEM,

652
00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:52,924
SOMEBODY ELSE LEAVES AND YOU HAVE

653
00:29:52,924 --> 00:29:53,925
TO FILL ANOTHER. AND THE GREAT ROUTINE,

654
00:29:53,925 --> 00:29:54,893
OF COURSE, IS WE TRY TO HIRE WITHIN,

655
00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:56,895
WHICH IMMEDIATELY CREATES ANOTHER

656
00:29:56,895 --> 00:29:57,896
VACANCY THAT YOU THEN HAVE TO FILL.

657
00:29:57,896 --> 00:29:59,898
SO, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE.

658
00:29:59,898 --> 00:30:02,901
I THINK OUR VACANCIES ARE DOWN

659
00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:05,301
IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

660
00:30:05,871 --> 00:30:06,872
BUT,

661
00:30:06,872 --> 00:30:08,874
IT IS A CONTINUING STRUGGLE.

662
00:30:08,874 --> 00:30:11,843
>> YEAH, THE ACTIVATION, I WAS LOOKING

663
00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:13,843
AT SOME OF

664
00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:15,847
THE ITEMS IN TIER TWO. AND I THINK THOSE ARE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT,

665
00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:18,847
ESPECIALLY NOW THAT PEOPLE REALIZE

666
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:21,853
HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEIR PARKS.

667
00:30:21,853 --> 00:30:24,853
SO, I AM IN SUPPORT

668
00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:25,824
OF SUPPORTING

669
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:28,794
NOT ONLY TIER ONE, BUT GOOD PORTIONS

670
00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:30,794
OF TIER TWO,

671
00:30:33,765 --> 00:30:34,766
FOR EVERYBODY.

672
00:30:34,766 --> 00:30:35,767
>> THE PHRASING HERE IS, "NON-RECOMMENDED."

673
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,770
NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE RECOMMENDED

674
00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:40,772
CUTS. BUT, WE DO HAVE, IF YOU WILL,

675
00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:43,742
A SUGGESTED ORDER OF HOW WE WANT

676
00:30:43,742 --> 00:30:45,742
TO REINSTATE IT.

677
00:30:45,744 --> 00:30:48,747
>> JUST A REAL QUICK COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

678
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:50,747
I

679
00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:51,750
THINK -- I KNOW THIS IS REALLY HARD

680
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:53,752
TO DO, I GET LOOKS GOOD WITHIN THE

681
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:56,722
TEARS FOR THE PRIORITIES WE HAVE

682
00:30:56,722 --> 00:30:58,690
WITH THE MEMO.

683
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,660
ON THE SIE END TOOL, DO WE HAVE

684
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,660
ONE, CURRENTLY?

685
00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:09,668
OR, IS THIS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TOOL?

686
00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:10,669
>> THIS IS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW

687
00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:11,670
TOOL, BUT IT WOULD COMPLEMENT EXISTING

688
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,671
CYBERSECURITY TOOLS THAT WE ALREADY

689
00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:13,672
HAVE.

690
00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:14,673
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT ONE DESERVES

691
00:31:14,673 --> 00:31:15,674
QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION. THOSE

692
00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:18,740
THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, CYBERSECURITY.

693
00:31:18,643 --> 00:31:20,645
IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH

694
00:31:20,645 --> 00:31:23,615
MY DAY JOB ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO

695
00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:24,616
THIS MIGHT BE A PERSONAL THING.

696
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:25,617
BUT, THE DISRUPTIONS AND CYBERSECURITY

697
00:31:25,617 --> 00:31:27,619
INCIDENTS CAN BE CONSIDERABLE AND

698
00:31:27,619 --> 00:31:30,622
THE COST CAN BE VERY, VERY LARGE.

699
00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:31,623
IT IS A PREVENTION SITUATION,

700
00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:33,558
AND I REALLY THINK THAT AS WE ARE

701
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,958
HAVING THOSE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS,

702
00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:37,562
THAT IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR

703
00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:40,562
NOT HAVING MASSIVE DISRUPTIONS OF

704
00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:42,565
SERVICES FOR THAT.

705
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,571
OTHERWISE, ASSUMING THAT THERE

706
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,573
IS NO REPLACEMENT IN THE BUDGET

707
00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,509
AND WE HAVE TO GO TO SOMETHING RELATIVELY

708
00:31:50,509 --> 00:31:52,511
CLOSE TO THIS WITH THE THRIVE AND

709
00:31:52,511 --> 00:31:53,512
SOME MENTATION, WHAT PLANS DO YOU

710
00:31:53,512 --> 00:31:54,513
HAVE FOR COVERING SOME OF THAT,

711
00:31:54,513 --> 00:31:57,516
OR APPROACHING IT WITH THE MEASUREMENT

712
00:31:57,516 --> 00:31:59,516
AND EVERYTHING?

713
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:02,521
>> IF WE CANNOT GET THE BUDGET REQUEST,

714
00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:03,522
THAT

715
00:32:03,522 --> 00:32:04,523
WOULD DELAY THE PROJECT. THERE ARE

716
00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:07,459
SOME INITIAL GROUNDWORK THAT WE

717
00:32:07,459 --> 00:32:08,460
COULD PERHAPS DO

718
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:10,462
IN HOUSE, BUT ULTIMATELY, WE WILL

719
00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:13,465
NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO HELP

720
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:15,433
US BUILD THIS OUT,

721
00:32:15,433 --> 00:32:17,435
AND WE WOULD, IF FOR SOME REASON,

722
00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:19,437
WE DO NOT GET THE MONEY FOR FY 24,

723
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,439
WE WOULD PUT IN OUR FY 25 BUDGET REQUEST.

724
00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:24,409
>> THANK YOU. I THINK THAT IS ALL

725
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:26,809
I GOT FOR THAT.

726
00:32:29,414 --> 00:32:30,415
I WAS READING THROUGH THIS, I KNOW

727
00:32:30,415 --> 00:32:31,416
IT IS TOUGH, BUT I THINK THAT IS

728
00:32:31,416 --> 00:32:33,418
ABOUT RIGHT WITHIN THE PRIORITIES

729
00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:34,419
AND THE TEARS, SO THAT IS GOOD WORK.

730
00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:36,421
BUT, I DO WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION

731
00:32:36,421 --> 00:32:37,422
TO THE TOOL. IF WE DON'T HAVE ONE,

732
00:32:37,422 --> 00:32:39,422
WE NEED ONE.

733
00:32:40,358 --> 00:32:42,358
>> AND

734
00:32:43,328 --> 00:32:45,328
IF I COULD

735
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:46,331
JUST ADD TO THAT, THAT TOOL, AGAIN,

736
00:32:46,331 --> 00:32:47,332
WOULD COVER BOTH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

737
00:32:47,332 --> 00:32:48,333
AND PARKS DEPARTMENT.

738
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:49,334
>> IT WOULD BE OVERALL, FOR EVERYBODY.

739
00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:50,335
>> YES.

740
00:32:50,335 --> 00:32:51,336
>> DU PRINCE GEORGE'S HAVE THE TOOLS

741
00:32:51,336 --> 00:32:53,736
FOR THAT RIGHT NOW?

742
00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:56,739
>> THAT MIGHT BE ON

743
00:32:57,309 --> 00:32:59,311
THE SCOPE RIGHT NOW.

744
00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:00,312
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT,

745
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:01,313
BUT THE I.T. DEPARTMENT ON MONTGOMERY

746
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:02,314
SIDE COVERS BOTH DEPARTMENT.

747
00:33:02,314 --> 00:33:04,314
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

748
00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:07,317
>> AS CHAIR,

749
00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:09,287
I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I HAVE TO

750
00:33:09,287 --> 00:33:11,687
SUBMIT THE COMMISSIONERS BUDGET.

751
00:33:12,224 --> 00:33:13,225
WE HAVE TWO STAFF THAT ARE

752
00:33:13,225 --> 00:33:15,625
ASSIGNED TO COMMISSION ACTIVITIES,

753
00:33:16,228 --> 00:33:18,228
BUT WE HAVE

754
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:19,231
ONE VACANCY IN THE OFFICE RIGHT

755
00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:22,234
NOW FOR THE OFFICE MANAGER POSITION.

756
00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:25,237
I WILL LEAVE THAT TO MY

757
00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:27,237
SUCCESSOR TO PHIL,

758
00:33:28,206 --> 00:33:31,209
THAT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.

759
00:33:31,209 --> 00:33:34,179
WHAT I PUT IN FOR IN THE

760
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:36,179
PROPOSED BUDGET

761
00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:40,185
IS FOR A PUBLIC AFFAIRS SPECIALIST,

762
00:33:40,185 --> 00:33:42,585
MAINLY BECAUSE I AM

763
00:33:43,188 --> 00:33:44,155
RELYING ON THE GOOD

764
00:33:44,155 --> 00:33:45,123
GRACES OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

765
00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:47,125
AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHEN I

766
00:33:47,125 --> 00:33:50,128
NEED TO, AND WE, ON OCCASION, HAVE

767
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:52,128
INDEPENDENT INTERESTS

768
00:33:53,131 --> 00:33:56,134
AND IT WAS DETERMINED BEFORE I

769
00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:59,134
GOT HERE, THAT WOULD BE

770
00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:02,137
A GOOD POSITION TO HAVE,

771
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:05,760
AND WAS NEEDED TO REALLY MEET THE

772
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,760
JOB REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS

773
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:10,790
AND THE CHAIR.

774
00:34:14,850 --> 00:34:17,550
BUT, WE ARE PUTTING THAT ON A

775
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:19,550
RECOMMENDED

776
00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:22,250
REDUCTION WITH TEARS

777
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,280
FOR ACTUALLY

778
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:28,431
DOING LESS OF THAT.

779
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,300
THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, ON

780
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:33,972
TIER THREE,

781
00:34:33,972 --> 00:34:36,975
I HAVE SOME STAFF TRAINING CONFERENCES,

782
00:34:36,975 --> 00:34:38,975
AND

783
00:34:39,978 --> 00:34:41,978
AGAIN, THE EASY

784
00:34:42,981 --> 00:34:44,983
THING TO DO IS TO JUST

785
00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:45,984
DELAY THE HIRING OF A NEW POSITION

786
00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:47,984
FOR TWO MONTHS.

787
00:34:47,986 --> 00:34:50,956
>> IS THAT -- JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT

788
00:34:50,956 --> 00:34:52,924
IS

789
00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:53,892
DELAYING HIRING THAT PERSON FOR

790
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:54,893
AN ENTIRE YEAR?

791
00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:55,894
>> YEAH.

792
00:34:55,894 --> 00:34:58,294
>> OKAY, JUST MAKING SURE.

793
00:34:58,897 --> 00:35:01,297
>> SO, IT IS CUMULATIVE?

794
00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,300
IT IS REVERSE CUMULATIVE.

795
00:35:04,903 --> 00:35:06,871
BUT,

796
00:35:06,871 --> 00:35:09,874
THAT IS ALL IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC

797
00:35:09,874 --> 00:35:11,874
DISCLOSURE.

798
00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:16,477
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

799
00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:18,883
>> I JUST HAVE ONE SMALL CORRECTION

800
00:35:18,883 --> 00:35:19,851
THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION

801
00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:22,851
ON THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS LIST

802
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:26,791
OF TEARS, WHERE YOU SEE REDUCTION

803
00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:29,791
TO MEET COUNTY EXECUTIVES RECOMMENDATION

804
00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:31,794
PLANNING, IT SAYS $1,034,095.

805
00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:34,799
THAT IS A TYPO. IT SHOULD SAVE

806
00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,799
$1,034,803.

807
00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:39,771
SIMILARLY, TO WHAT IS LISTED ON

808
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,771
PAGE ONE.

809
00:35:42,774 --> 00:35:43,775
SO, THAT IS JUST A SMALL CORRECTION

810
00:35:43,775 --> 00:35:44,776
THAT WILL BE MADE BEFORE THIS IS

811
00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:46,776
TRANSMITTED.

812
00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:49,746
>>

813
00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:51,750
IT IS GOOD TO DO IT IN THE LAST

814
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:52,751
COUPLE OF DIGITS, NOT THE FIRST

815
00:35:52,751 --> 00:35:53,752
COUPLE OF DIGITS.

816
00:35:53,752 --> 00:35:54,719
>> EXACTLY.

817
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,720
>> AT LEAST THAT IS MY THEORY ON

818
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,690
BUDGETS. MAKE YOUR MISTAKES IN DOLLARS,

819
00:35:58,690 --> 00:36:00,690
NOT THOUSANDS. OKAY.

820
00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:03,695
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING

821
00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:08,495
TO SAY ON THIS MATTER? NO? ALL RIGHT.

822
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,639
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH

823
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,642
THE THOUGHT THAT WE WILL GO UP

824
00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:19,642
TO COUNSEL

825
00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,645
AND FIGHT

826
00:36:22,647 --> 00:36:25,650
FOR THESE BUDGET ITEMS TO BE REINSTATED.

827
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:28,500
BUT, THIS IS OUR

828
00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:30,620
TIER PRIORITIES.

829
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:33,591
>> SO, YOU WANT US TO GIVE YOU WHICH

830
00:36:33,591 --> 00:36:36,594
TEARS WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON?

831
00:36:36,594 --> 00:36:39,564
>> NO, WE ARE VOTING TO SUPPORT

832
00:36:39,564 --> 00:36:41,564
THE MEMO

833
00:36:42,567 --> 00:36:44,967
WRITTEN BY JOHN COLE,

834
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,540
THAT HAS ALL OF THE TIERS

835
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,540
AND NONRECOMMENDED CUTS.

836
00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:55,545
>>

837
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:57,549
OF THE PLANNING BOARD HAVE TO MAKE

838
00:36:57,549 --> 00:36:59,517
THE MOTION ON THAT? OR, JUST GIVE

839
00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,517
THEM THE TIERS?

840
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
>> TYPICALLY,

841
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:06,458
WE TRANSMIT THE ENTIRE LIST TO

842
00:37:06,458 --> 00:37:07,459
THE COUNCIL, AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE

843
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:11,463
THE DECISION IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY

844
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:13,463
WANT TO FIND.

845
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:16,434
>> SO, MR. CHAIR,

846
00:37:16,434 --> 00:37:21,234
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE

847
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,443
THE MEMO FROM MR. COLE THAT WE SUBMITTED

848
00:37:25,443 --> 00:37:27,443
TO THE COUNCIL

849
00:37:28,446 --> 00:37:30,846
WITH OUR CONCERN THAT

850
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:33,384
THIS IS A BIG HIT.

851
00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:35,386
AND WE AND THEM, WE SHOULD FIGHT

852
00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:38,356
TO GET THIS MONEY BACK.

853
00:37:38,356 --> 00:37:40,356
>> AND I

854
00:37:46,364 --> 00:37:48,366
SECOND THAT. I WAS GOING TO EVEN

855
00:37:48,366 --> 00:37:50,335
GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, BUT I DON'T

856
00:37:50,335 --> 00:37:51,336
KNOW IF I CAN, OR NOT. THAT IS HOW

857
00:37:51,336 --> 00:37:53,338
IMPORTANT, ABSOLUTELY, TIER ONE

858
00:37:53,338 --> 00:37:57,342
AND TWO ARE FOR THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.

859
00:37:57,342 --> 00:38:00,311
>> I THINK EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN

860
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:02,313
THE BUDGET UNDERSTANDS THAT.

861
00:38:02,313 --> 00:38:04,315
EVERYBODY INVOLVED ON OUR SIDE

862
00:38:04,315 --> 00:38:07,915
OF THE BUDGET ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT

863
00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:11,256
WE ARE TAKING THE BIGGEST HIT OF

864
00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,257
ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY. I

865
00:38:12,257 --> 00:38:15,857
THINK THAT IS CORRECT. YOU KNOW,

866
00:38:18,263 --> 00:38:21,263
OTHER AGENCIES ARE GETTING INCREASES.

867
00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:23,666
SO, WE LOOK FOR

868
00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:26,202
THE COUNCIL

869
00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:30,208
TO DO A MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION

870
00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:32,208
OF AVAILABLE FUNDS.

871
00:38:37,215 --> 00:38:39,184
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND

872
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,185
A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

873
00:38:40,185 --> 00:38:41,186
>> AYE. >> AYE.

874
00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:43,186
>> AYE POINT

875
00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:45,156
>> ALL RIGHT, 5-0. THANK YOU, MR.

876
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,157
KROLL, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY ON THE

877
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:47,158
CALL, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY HERE.

878
00:38:47,158 --> 00:38:50,758
WE HAD ALL THE BUDGETEERS HERE.

879
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:55,197
THEY WEAR DIFFERENT HATS.

880
00:47:08,392 --> 00:47:11,992
>> WELCOME BACK . WE ARE ON ITEM

881
00:47:14,732 --> 00:47:16,732
NUMBER SIX.

882
00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:38,550
WE DO HAVE

883
00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:41,655
THREE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TESTIFY.

884
00:47:42,593 --> 00:47:45,593
WE WILL TAKE THE COMMENTS

885
00:47:48,232 --> 00:47:48,799
FROM THE STAFF BEFORE. AND WE WILL HEAR

886
00:47:48,799 --> 00:47:49,967
FROM THE APPLICANT.

887
00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:51,967
>> GOOD MORNING

888
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:55,973
, KERRY SANDERS FOR THE RECORD. I WANTED

889
00:47:55,973 --> 00:47:58,976
TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ON THIS CASE

890
00:47:58,976 --> 00:47:59,977
BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING. THIS PROJECT IS

891
00:47:59,977 --> 00:48:01,977
A

892
00:48:01,979 --> 00:48:02,980
REALLY IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD FOR

893
00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:04,980
THE 2010

894
00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:08,383
GREAT SENECA SCIENCE CORRIDOR

895
00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:11,989
MASTER PLAN AND THE COUNTIES GROWING BIOTECHNOLOGY

896
00:48:11,989 --> 00:48:13,991
SECTOR THERE . THIS IS

897
00:48:13,991 --> 00:48:14,992
THE LARGEST SCALE SITE PLAN WE HAVE

898
00:48:14,992 --> 00:48:16,992
SEEN ON THIS

899
00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:19,995
OVER

900
00:48:20,965 --> 00:48:22,965
THE 107 ACRE SITE

901
00:48:22,967 --> 00:48:26,567
SINCE 1977. SO, GIVING YOU SOME CONTEXT

902
00:48:26,971 --> 00:48:28,971
, GRAHAM,

903
00:48:29,974 --> 00:48:31,974
OUR LEAD

904
00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:32,977
PROJECT MANAGER WILL WALK YOU THROUGH

905
00:48:32,977 --> 00:48:34,977
THE DETAILS. THANK

906
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:37,980
YOU. >>

907
00:48:41,986 --> 00:48:44,386
>> GOOD MORNING AGAIN. TAMIKA

908
00:48:44,989 --> 00:48:47,989
GRAHAM WITH THE MEADE COUNTY

909
00:48:48,993 --> 00:48:49,994
PLANNING DIVISION. I JUST WANTED TO

910
00:48:49,994 --> 00:48:50,995
SAY, ON BEHALF OF THE DIVISION WE

911
00:48:50,995 --> 00:48:53,964
ARE REALLY PLEASED TO BRING FORWARD THIS PLAN

912
00:48:53,964 --> 00:48:55,966
FOR THE BELL WORD CAMPUS. IT

913
00:48:55,966 --> 00:48:59,566
IS A COMBINATION OF RESEARCH SPACE

914
00:48:59,970 --> 00:49:00,971
,

915
00:49:00,971 --> 00:49:02,973
RETAIL AND RECREATION. IT WILL TRANSFORM

916
00:49:02,973 --> 00:49:05,973
WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS

917
00:49:05,976 --> 00:49:06,977
AERIAL PHOTO

918
00:49:06,977 --> 00:49:09,130
IN FRONT OF YOU. AS KERRY MENTIONED

919
00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:11,130
THIS PROJECT IS

920
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:12,160
GOING TO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY

921
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,170
TO

922
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:17,217
THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTIES BIO HEALTH

923
00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:21,250
AND LIFE SCIENCES HUB. IT WILL

924
00:49:21,250 --> 00:49:24,280
ALSO LAY OUT THE FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH

925
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,428
WILL WALK YOU THROUGH

926
00:49:26,997 --> 00:49:28,997
THE DETAILS. FOR

927
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
THE REASONS WE STATED IN OUR STAFF

928
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,300
REPORT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE

929
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:35,300
BELWARD CAMPUS

930
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,800
PHASE TWO FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND

931
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,608
FOR THE FINAL FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN

932
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,150
FOR THE OVERALL SITE. BOTH WITH CONDITIONS

933
00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:47,150
LISTED IN

934
00:49:47,170 --> 00:49:48,180
THE STAFF REPORT. WE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH A

935
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:51,180
FEW MODIFICATIONS IN THIS PRESENTATION.

936
00:49:51,210 --> 00:49:53,210
THE

937
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,270
BELWARD TRACT WHICH IS OWNED BY

938
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:59,270
JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY

939
00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:00,300
HAS A LONG HISTORY OF REGULATORY APPROVALS

940
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:01,999
OVER THE PAST

941
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:06,300
26 YEARS. THE BALL REALLY STARTED TO ROLL

942
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,403
BACK IN 1996 WITH APPROVAL

943
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,600
OF A NATURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY

944
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:14,110
, FORCED AND DELINEATION. IN 1997,

945
00:50:14,110 --> 00:50:15,120
THE FIRST LUMINARY PLAN WAS APPROVED

946
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,120
FOR UP TO

947
00:50:20,170 --> 00:50:21,180
1.8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND

948
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:23,418
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT USE.

949
00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:27,240
THAT HAD A DENSITY OF 0.3 AND

950
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,424
THAT WAS ON A

951
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:32,427
138 ACRE TRACT OF LAND.

952
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:34,999
BASED ON THE LANGUAGE IN

953
00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:36,000
THE GREAT SENECA SCIENCE CORRIDOR

954
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000
MASTER PLAN

955
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,600
, IT RECOMMENDS THE LARGEST TRACT

956
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:47,409
--EXCUSE ME, THE LARGEST

957
00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:51,150
PROPERTY OWNERS WITH 20 ACRES OR MORE MUST

958
00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:54,150
SUBMIT A CONCEPT PLAN. IN 2011

959
00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:57,210
A CONCEPT PLAN WAS SUBMITTED WITH AN AMENDMENT

960
00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:59,210
THAT CREATED TWO

961
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,240
RECORDED PARCELS, LETTER

962
00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:06,300
A AND B AND RECONFIGURED THE LEASE.

963
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,300
REALLY, IT WAS VARIOUS AUTOMATIC

964
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:10,340
COUNTY

965
00:51:10,340 --> 00:51:11,350
COUNSEL EXTENSIONS THAT ALLOW THE

966
00:51:11,350 --> 00:51:12,360
VALIDITY PERIOD TO REMAIN IN EFFECT

967
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,360
AFTER A

968
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:15,390
DECADE HAD PASSED. BRINGING US TO

969
00:51:15,390 --> 00:51:17,390
MORE RECENT

970
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,442
TIMES, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021,

971
00:51:21,450 --> 00:51:23,445
THE JOB OF THE

972
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,480
PLANNING BOARD FOR JOHNS HOPKINS

973
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:30,540
FILED A PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE

974
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:33,540
BUILDING, APPROXIMATELY 126,000 SQUARE FEET FOR

975
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:35,570
OUTPATIENT SERVICES

976
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600
, AMBULATORY SURGERY AND

977
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:41,630
LABORATORY FUNCTIONS.

978
00:51:44,340 --> 00:51:45,350
AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION OF

979
00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:48,380
THE MASTER PLAN. SO, LAST YEAR A NEW CONCEPT PLAN

980
00:51:48,380 --> 00:51:51,380
WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT

981
00:51:51,410 --> 00:51:53,410
,

982
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,440
TRAMMELL

983
00:51:57,470 --> 00:52:00,500
CROW COMPANY AND THEY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN WHICH

984
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:01,510
IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR

985
00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:03,530
THE NORTHERN PORTION. ALONG WITH THAT

986
00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:07,253
SITE PLAN THERE WAS A SITE PLAN

987
00:52:09,590 --> 00:52:11,610
AMENDMENT SUBMITTED TO MODIFY THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN

988
00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:12,620
FOR THE OVERALL BELWARD SITE AND THAT

989
00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:14,310
IS TO ACCOMMODATE

990
00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:15,320
THE CHANGES OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT

991
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,320
WITH THE

992
00:52:18,350 --> 00:52:20,350
TCC SITE.

993
00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:23,400
A LOT OF PROCESS

994
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,410
IS GOING ON AND I WILL TRY TO KEEP

995
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:27,410
THE TWO PROPERTIES CLEAR AS

996
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,444
I GO THROUGHOUT. IN

997
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:32,447
TERMS OF THE REGULATORY

998
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,520
PROCESS, WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO

999
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,540
--WE ISSUED A SINGLE SITE PLAN, BUT

1000
00:52:37,540 --> 00:52:39,540
WE ARE ASKING

1001
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,600
FOR THE PLANNING BOARDS VOTE ON TWO SEPARATE

1002
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,610
, BUT

1003
00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:46,630
RELATED PLANS. SO, WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS. ONE,

1004
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:48,463
THE TRAMMELL CROW COMPANY

1005
00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:51,350
, WHICH HAS A GROUND LEASE

1006
00:52:51,350 --> 00:52:52,360
AND HAVE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN FOR

1007
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,380
THE NORTHERN PORTION AND

1008
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:58,420
I WILL HAVE SOME MAPS FOR YOU SHORTLY. AND

1009
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:00,440
YOU ARE ALSO LOOKING AT

1010
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,450
A FINAL FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN FOR

1011
00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:03,450
THE OVERALL SITE

1012
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,480
THAT IS ALREADY

1013
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,840
SUBMITTED. IN

1014
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:14,910
TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN, AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, THE

1015
00:53:14,910 --> 00:53:16,930
LOT LINES HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. WE

1016
00:53:16,930 --> 00:53:18,930
HAVE MADE

1017
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:19,960
OUR ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES DETERMINATION AND

1018
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960
WE ARE LOOKING

1019
00:53:22,660 --> 00:53:24,660
AT THE

1020
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,690
FINER DETAILS ON THE SITE. ALSO, WE

1021
00:53:25,690 --> 00:53:28,720
ARE LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE

1022
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,740
MASTER PLAN AND HOW THEY COMPLY. BASED ON THE

1023
00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:33,770
DATE OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL

1024
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:34,780
, THIS APPLICATION , THE SITE PLAN

1025
00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:36,780
IS

1026
00:53:37,810 --> 00:53:38,820
BEING REVIEWED

1027
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:40,840
UNDER THE 2004 CODE, EXCEPT FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS

1028
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,840
THAT HAVE TO MEET CURRENT

1029
00:53:43,870 --> 00:53:45,870
CODE STANDARDS.

1030
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:46,900
SO, FOR THE FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN

1031
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:48,900
, IT

1032
00:53:49,930 --> 00:53:51,930
HAS TO

1033
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,690
--EXCUSE ME, A PRELIMINARY SITE

1034
00:53:59,690 --> 00:54:00,700
PLAN HAS TO SATISFY ANY OF THE FORCE CONSERVATION

1035
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:01,710
LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND SO FORTH. THAT

1036
00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,710
WILL LOOK AT

1037
00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:06,474
VARIOUS DETAILS FOR RETENTION

1038
00:54:07,770 --> 00:54:09,477
, MEDICATION FOR SPECIMEN TREES

1039
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,810
WHERE APPLICABLE.

1040
00:54:11,810 --> 00:54:13,830
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS

1041
00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:15,830
, THIS IS THE

1042
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:19,890
FIRST PROJECT BEFORE THE BOARD THAT FOLLOWS

1043
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:22,890
OUR NEW FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN

1044
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,492
APPLICATION PROCESS. THAT MEANS

1045
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:28,650
IT IS DECOUPLED FROM AN

1046
00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:30,650
ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT FROM

1047
00:54:30,670 --> 00:54:31,680
ASSOCIATED APPLICATIONS. THIS MEANS

1048
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,680
THAT MOVING FORWARD,

1049
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:34,710
A FORCE CONSERVATION PLAN IS NO LONGER

1050
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:36,710
A

1051
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:39,740
SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT OR

1052
00:54:41,780 --> 00:54:42,790
A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. IT STANDS ON

1053
00:54:42,790 --> 00:54:43,800
ITS OWN AND HAS ITS OWN PROJECT NUMBER AND

1054
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,800
WILL REQUIRE

1055
00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:46,830
A SEPARATE RESOLUTION AND YOU WILL HAVE

1056
00:54:46,830 --> 00:54:48,850
TO DO A SEPARATE VOTE

1057
00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:49,860
FOR THAT. GOING FORWARD, THIS MEANS

1058
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:51,860
THAT

1059
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:54,910
ANY AMENDMENTS THAT OCCUR THAT

1060
00:54:54,910 --> 00:54:57,691
DON'T REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE

1061
00:54:58,950 --> 00:55:01,640
SITE PLAN WE DON'T NEED TO OPEN UP

1062
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,640
THE SITE PLAN. FOR TODAY,

1063
00:55:04,101 --> 00:55:06,101
SINCE

1064
00:55:07,104 --> 00:55:09,104
THE OVERALL SITE

1065
00:55:10,107 --> 00:55:12,507
HAS A SITE PLAN

1066
00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:15,110
LINKED ,

1067
00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:20,117
THE FOURTH TIME BEFORE YOU SUPERSEDES ALL OF THE

1068
00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:22,119
CONDITIONS SO NO AMENDMENTS TO OTHER

1069
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:24,519
ASSOCIATED PLANS FOR THE

1070
00:55:25,122 --> 00:55:27,522
SEP ARE ARE REQUIRED.

1071
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:36,990
>> THE JHU RESEARCH TRACT

1072
00:55:36,990 --> 00:55:37,100
WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS THE OVERALL

1073
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,100
SITE

1074
00:55:40,103 --> 00:55:43,106
IS COMPRISED OF 107 ACRES OF LAND.

1075
00:55:43,106 --> 00:55:44,107
YOU CAN SEE ON THE

1076
00:55:44,107 --> 00:55:46,109
MAP IT IS WEDGED BETWEEN GAITHERSBURG

1077
00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:48,109
AND BOUNDARIES

1078
00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:52,115
OF ROCKVILLE. IT IS GENERALLY BOUNDED BY

1079
00:55:52,115 --> 00:55:54,515
DURHAM'S TOWN ROAD AND

1080
00:55:55,118 --> 00:55:57,118
MUDDY BRANCH ROAD

1081
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,121
TO THE LAST MISSION HILL SUBS DIVISION

1082
00:55:58,121 --> 00:56:00,121
TO

1083
00:56:01,124 --> 00:56:04,124
THE NORTH. THERE IS A

1084
00:56:04,127 --> 00:56:07,127
LITTLE CLUSTER OF THE MEDICAL

1085
00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:09,990
AND BIOTECHNOLOGY USES THAT

1086
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:10,100
WERE BROKEN OFF FROM THE ORIGINAL

1087
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,100
138 ACRE TRACT

1088
00:56:13,103 --> 00:56:16,103
. THE SITE ALSO INCLUDES THE

1089
00:56:16,106 --> 00:56:18,106
HISTORIC

1090
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,760
BELWARD

1091
00:56:21,780 --> 00:56:22,790
FARM THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1891

1092
00:56:22,790 --> 00:56:23,800
AND

1093
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,820
THAT STILL REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY.

1094
00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:27,820
IF

1095
00:56:28,850 --> 00:56:30,870
WE TAKE A CLOSER LOOK , I WANT TO

1096
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:33,900
DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PROPERTY

1097
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:34,910
FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION THAT

1098
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:36,910
IS LOCATED

1099
00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:37,940
ON THE NORTHERN PORTIONS AND IS OUTLINED

1100
00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:39,940
IN LIEU. THE

1101
00:56:40,970 --> 00:56:42,650
FORMER SITE PLAN THAT I NOTED FOR

1102
00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:43,660
THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING IS OUTLINED

1103
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:45,680
IN RED AND THE

1104
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,668
OVERALL SITE IS OUTLINED IN ORANGE.

1105
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,750
THE PROPERTY OF THE OVERALL SITE IS LOCATED

1106
00:56:52,750 --> 00:56:54,750
IN THE GREAT

1107
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:57,478
SENECA SCIENCE CORRIDOR MASTER

1108
00:56:58,810 --> 00:57:01,840
PLAN SPECIFICALLY, WITHIN THE BELWARD DISTRICT.

1109
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,840
>> THE PROPERTY FOR THE SITE

1110
00:57:04,121 --> 00:57:06,121
PLAN TOTALS ABOUT

1111
00:57:07,124 --> 00:57:09,124
66.5 ACRES OUT OF

1112
00:57:10,127 --> 00:57:12,527
THE 107 ACRE OVERALL SITE

1113
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:15,130
. THE SITE

1114
00:57:16,990 --> 00:57:19,990
ALSO HAS NOTICEABLE TOPOGRAPHICAL CHANGES

1115
00:57:21,104 --> 00:57:22,105
. ALSO, ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. THESE ARE THINGS

1116
00:57:22,105 --> 00:57:25,105
THAT REALLY INFLUENCE THE SITE

1117
00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:28,708
DESIGN IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.

1118
00:57:30,113 --> 00:57:31,114
>> Consistent with the vision of the

1119
00:57:31,114 --> 00:57:33,114
master plan

1120
00:57:34,117 --> 00:57:37,120
for the life sciences Center, the site

1121
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,123
plan is proposing up to 750,000 square

1122
00:57:40,123 --> 00:57:42,523
feet of above grade

1123
00:57:43,126 --> 00:57:45,128
gross floor area for

1124
00:57:45,128 --> 00:57:46,129
research and development, biotechnology offices

1125
00:57:46,129 --> 00:57:48,129
, related labs, and

1126
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:51,990
a 6000

1127
00:57:52,102 --> 00:57:54,104
square foot retail pavilion located in the

1128
00:57:54,104 --> 00:57:57,704
heart of the campus. This totals 757,000

1129
00:57:58,108 --> 00:58:01,108
square feet. This is distributed

1130
00:58:01,111 --> 00:58:04,114
across three different buildings labeled as

1131
00:58:04,114 --> 00:58:06,114
A1, A2, and

1132
00:58:06,116 --> 00:58:07,117
a four. They would have a maximum height

1133
00:58:07,117 --> 00:58:09,117
of a

1134
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,120
range between 100 and

1135
00:58:13,123 --> 00:58:15,123
150 feet. And , the

1136
00:58:15,125 --> 00:58:18,725
site proposal also includes the structured

1137
00:58:19,129 --> 00:58:21,980
parking , which was a specific

1138
00:58:21,980 --> 00:58:22,990
recommendation from the master plan.

1139
00:58:22,990 --> 00:58:24,990
They

1140
00:58:25,102 --> 00:58:28,105
also tried to utilize grading on the site

1141
00:58:28,105 --> 00:58:31,108
to try to reduce the appearance

1142
00:58:31,108 --> 00:58:34,111
of height , as much as possible. There will be

1143
00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:36,111
solar rays

1144
00:58:37,114 --> 00:58:40,114
on P1 and P2 extensions.

1145
00:58:40,117 --> 00:58:41,118
You can see the construction of new

1146
00:58:41,118 --> 00:58:42,119
roads and there will also be public

1147
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:43,120
you space, lighting and landscaping

1148
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,120
which I will get into

1149
00:58:46,123 --> 00:58:48,125
a little bit more. I also want

1150
00:58:48,125 --> 00:58:49,126
to note that additional development

1151
00:58:49,126 --> 00:58:51,126
is anticipated

1152
00:58:52,129 --> 00:58:53,130
north of Belward campus Drive that

1153
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:54,131
is not

1154
00:58:54,131 --> 00:58:56,990
part of this application. Everything

1155
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:58,990
shown

1156
00:58:59,102 --> 00:59:01,104
in blue would need to be

1157
00:59:01,104 --> 00:59:05,142
supported by a future site plan approval.

1158
00:59:05,142 --> 00:59:08,145
Everything in white is what you are

1159
00:59:08,145 --> 00:59:10,145
looking at today.

1160
00:59:10,147 --> 00:59:11,148
What we wanted to say here is , for

1161
00:59:11,148 --> 00:59:13,148
the property

1162
00:59:14,151 --> 00:59:16,551
currently has approval for .3

1163
00:59:17,154 --> 00:59:20,154
SAR, the total map density

1164
00:59:20,157 --> 00:59:22,557
is a total capacity

1165
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,163
to be developed of up to

1166
00:59:26,163 --> 00:59:28,131
4.7 million square

1167
00:59:28,131 --> 00:59:29,132
feet. This anticipates some future

1168
00:59:29,132 --> 00:59:31,132
amendments.

1169
00:59:32,135 --> 00:59:34,535
Again, what we are

1170
00:59:35,138 --> 00:59:38,141
asking for your approval today is everything

1171
00:59:38,141 --> 00:59:40,141
shown

1172
00:59:44,147 --> 00:59:46,147
in white.

1173
00:59:48,151 --> 00:59:49,152
This is spread across 10 different faces

1174
00:59:49,152 --> 00:59:50,153
shown on the applicants exhibits.

1175
00:59:50,153 --> 00:59:51,154
These phases can

1176
00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:53,156
really occur in any order, or they can

1177
00:59:53,156 --> 00:59:55,156
occur together .

1178
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:57,160
You can see here there will

1179
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,162
be additional buildings along the

1180
00:59:59,162 --> 01:00:01,162
structured parking. >>

1181
01:00:02,132 --> 01:00:04,132
We have highlighted

1182
01:00:05,135 --> 01:00:07,535
the new roads for

1183
01:00:08,138 --> 01:00:09,139
you here.

1184
01:00:09,139 --> 01:00:11,141
Based on the amount of hazing that was anticipated

1185
01:00:11,141 --> 01:00:12,142
with the amended

1186
01:00:12,142 --> 01:00:14,144
limitary plan, there was language

1187
01:00:14,144 --> 01:00:16,144
that stated

1188
01:00:16,146 --> 01:00:19,746
roads could be finalized with each

1189
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:23,150
relevant site plan. That is

1190
01:00:23,153 --> 01:00:25,153
what happened here.

1191
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:38,134
We have a network of new roads. One

1192
01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:40,134
of

1193
01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:43,140
the public roads is Belward Campus

1194
01:00:43,140 --> 01:00:44,140
drive. It bisects the property and

1195
01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:46,140
provides major

1196
01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:49,143
East-West connectivity.

1197
01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:53,147
It does include 150 feet for

1198
01:00:53,149 --> 01:00:55,149
a right-of-way

1199
01:00:55,151 --> 01:00:56,152
, including the meeting that was specifically

1200
01:00:56,152 --> 01:00:58,152
in the

1201
01:00:59,156 --> 01:01:02,192
master plan. It will also have three panels

1202
01:01:02,192 --> 01:01:04,194
to support traffic calming

1203
01:01:04,194 --> 01:01:08,164
and try to bring down the out wide

1204
01:01:08,164 --> 01:01:09,165
cross-section

1205
01:01:09,165 --> 01:01:11,167
to a pedestrian scale. It will also

1206
01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,567
create a buffer for

1207
01:01:14,170 --> 01:01:16,570
conditions along the LSD

1208
01:01:17,173 --> 01:01:20,176
loop trail , which I will talk about a

1209
01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:22,178
little more shortly. A set of private

1210
01:01:22,178 --> 01:01:23,179
roads is also proposed and labeled roads

1211
01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:25,179
A through

1212
01:01:26,182 --> 01:01:27,183
D. They primarily

1213
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:29,185
, provide internal access. You will see

1214
01:01:29,185 --> 01:01:31,185
that roads

1215
01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:35,188
B and roads C play

1216
01:01:35,191 --> 01:01:37,191
a major role

1217
01:01:40,196 --> 01:01:41,164
in the experience of the campus. This is why

1218
01:01:41,164 --> 01:01:43,166
we focused on how

1219
01:01:43,166 --> 01:01:44,167
Road B terminates at the garage and how

1220
01:01:44,167 --> 01:01:46,167
Road C supports

1221
01:01:47,170 --> 01:01:49,170
this pedestrian scale

1222
01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:51,174
with the buildings pulled close

1223
01:01:51,174 --> 01:01:53,176
up to the road and how it provides

1224
01:01:53,176 --> 01:01:55,176
connectivity from Belward

1225
01:01:56,179 --> 01:01:58,181
Campus all the way through

1226
01:01:58,181 --> 01:02:01,184
the forest conservation area and other

1227
01:02:01,184 --> 01:02:02,185
green spaces that people will walk

1228
01:02:02,185 --> 01:02:04,185
past as

1229
01:02:04,187 --> 01:02:07,190
they move north through the site.

1230
01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:08,191
The applicant is also making some improvements

1231
01:02:08,191 --> 01:02:10,591
on muddy branch Road.

1232
01:02:11,194 --> 01:02:12,195
They will be

1233
01:02:12,195 --> 01:02:15,195
replacing the existing sidewalk with

1234
01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:17,167
a two-way separated bicycling that

1235
01:02:17,167 --> 01:02:20,167
will be buffered. They are

1236
01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:23,173
also including a segment of the life science

1237
01:02:23,173 --> 01:02:25,175
trail. There will be two new

1238
01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:26,176
traffic signals . One of the major

1239
01:02:26,176 --> 01:02:28,176
new intersection

1240
01:02:29,179 --> 01:02:31,179
at

1241
01:02:33,183 --> 01:02:35,185
muddy branch and Belward Campus drive. There

1242
01:02:35,185 --> 01:02:36,186
is another one off the screen at Key West

1243
01:02:36,186 --> 01:02:38,188
Avenue and Johns Hopkins drive. As

1244
01:02:38,188 --> 01:02:40,188
I mentioned

1245
01:02:41,191 --> 01:02:43,193
, parking must conform with

1246
01:02:43,193 --> 01:02:44,194
our current code , so the applicant is

1247
01:02:44,194 --> 01:02:46,194
providing plenty

1248
01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:49,597
of offstreet parking spaces

1249
01:02:50,166 --> 01:02:52,168
and they are also providing a number of

1250
01:02:52,168 --> 01:02:53,169
parking spaces that will support the

1251
01:02:53,169 --> 01:02:54,170
retail

1252
01:02:54,170 --> 01:02:56,172
pavilion. It will also support visitors

1253
01:02:56,172 --> 01:02:58,172
to the park.

1254
01:02:59,175 --> 01:03:01,175
>> The

1255
01:03:02,212 --> 01:03:05,215
site plan is also planning to deliver

1256
01:03:05,215 --> 01:03:07,217
important bicycle and pedestrian

1257
01:03:07,217 --> 01:03:08,218
improvements for the building and

1258
01:03:08,218 --> 01:03:11,218
to shift away from having

1259
01:03:11,221 --> 01:03:14,221
this campus feel very auto

1260
01:03:14,224 --> 01:03:17,227
centric. And to complement the various

1261
01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:19,227
green spaces.

1262
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:23,199
I mentioned the LSU loop trail. That is a

1263
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:25,199
total of

1264
01:03:25,201 --> 01:03:26,202
1.3 miles. It is the premier element

1265
01:03:26,202 --> 01:03:28,202
of the

1266
01:03:38,214 --> 01:03:41,217
JSCC plan. It is also great that this will deliver

1267
01:03:41,217 --> 01:03:44,220
another segment of this great trail. Pathways are also

1268
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:46,220
proposed within

1269
01:03:46,222 --> 01:03:47,223
the muddy branch Park. You can see

1270
01:03:47,223 --> 01:03:49,225
where it is highlighted the

1271
01:03:49,225 --> 01:03:50,226
applicant is proposing some pedestrian

1272
01:03:50,226 --> 01:03:52,226
connections

1273
01:03:53,229 --> 01:03:56,199
through the buildings, which helps with

1274
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:59,202
the porosity of this large site.

1275
01:03:59,202 --> 01:04:01,202
We also have

1276
01:04:05,208 --> 01:04:07,208
some

1277
01:04:08,211 --> 01:04:10,213
natural surface trails which will go

1278
01:04:10,213 --> 01:04:11,214
through the Mission Hills preserve.

1279
01:04:11,214 --> 01:04:13,214
There are also

1280
01:04:14,217 --> 01:04:17,217
some protective bicycle intersections throughout

1281
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:19,220
the site. >>

1282
01:04:20,223 --> 01:04:23,226
I wanted to take you back for a second,

1283
01:04:23,226 --> 01:04:26,229
looking at the full buildout of this site. You

1284
01:04:26,229 --> 01:04:28,229
can see what

1285
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,199
the circulation will look like

1286
01:04:32,202 --> 01:04:34,204
once additional buildings and

1287
01:04:34,204 --> 01:04:35,205
garages are brought forth under separate

1288
01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:36,206
site plans.

1289
01:04:36,206 --> 01:04:38,208
One thing that staff wanted to point out is

1290
01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:41,211
that we have made a condition of

1291
01:04:41,211 --> 01:04:44,214
approval to eliminate the sweeping curve

1292
01:04:44,214 --> 01:04:47,814
of the extension of road D .

1293
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:53,220
That will require an additional

1294
01:04:53,223 --> 01:04:55,225
site plan. For the next few slides I

1295
01:04:55,225 --> 01:04:59,262
would like to turn it over to my colleague, Natasha

1296
01:04:59,262 --> 01:05:02,232
to talk a little bit more about the details of the site. >> Thank

1297
01:05:02,232 --> 01:05:05,235
you, Tamika. Good morning to the

1298
01:05:05,235 --> 01:05:07,235
planning board. For

1299
01:05:08,238 --> 01:05:10,238
the record, I

1300
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,241
am a designer of Meade County division.

1301
01:05:11,241 --> 01:05:14,241
I would like to walk

1302
01:05:14,244 --> 01:05:15,245
you through some of the design highlights

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01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:16,246
of this

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01:05:16,246 --> 01:05:18,248
transformative development and great

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01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,248
city complement

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01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:21,251
that has been achieved through the

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01:05:21,251 --> 01:05:23,251
constructive dialogue

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01:05:23,253 --> 01:05:26,853
between the planning staff and advocates.

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01:05:27,223 --> 01:05:28,224
The staff

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01:05:28,224 --> 01:05:30,226
appreciates all the collaborative approaches

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01:05:30,226 --> 01:05:33,229
that have been taken with the planning department

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01:05:33,229 --> 01:05:35,198
to enhance the design for

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01:05:35,198 --> 01:05:36,199
this project in the past couple of

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01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,199
months. What

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01:05:38,201 --> 01:05:42,205
you see on the screen represents the first

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01:05:42,205 --> 01:05:43,206
three buildings of

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01:05:43,206 --> 01:05:45,208
the biotech office buildings for the

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01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:47,208
first phase of

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01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:50,213
this development. It frames the main spine

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01:05:50,213 --> 01:05:51,214
of the road which is Belward Campus

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01:05:51,214 --> 01:05:53,214
drive creates

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01:05:54,217 --> 01:05:55,218
a very urban edge for this

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01:05:55,218 --> 01:05:59,222
primary road. What you see on the screen

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01:05:59,222 --> 01:06:00,223
that marks as building A1 and later

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01:06:00,223 --> 01:06:02,223
a four

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01:06:03,226 --> 01:06:05,226
.

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01:06:05,228 --> 01:06:06,229
Even though these buildings as you see

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01:06:06,229 --> 01:06:07,230
on

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01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:09,199
the slide have a harmonious façade

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01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:10,200
because they are part

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,202
of the biggest campus, but individually

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01:06:12,202 --> 01:06:14,202
they offer

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01:06:15,205 --> 01:06:17,205
a unique

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01:06:17,207 --> 01:06:18,208
articulation through the series of

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01:06:18,208 --> 01:06:20,208
setbacks and terraces

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01:06:21,211 --> 01:06:24,214
, which open up into the views

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01:06:24,214 --> 01:06:25,215
of the

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01:06:25,215 --> 01:06:27,217
stream to the North and the historic

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01:06:27,217 --> 01:06:30,220
farm to the South that is

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01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:33,223
shown on this slide. The tall

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01:06:33,223 --> 01:06:35,623
, glassy ground floor that

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01:06:36,226 --> 01:06:38,226
is shown also

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01:06:42,198 --> 01:06:44,198
is another

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01:06:45,201 --> 01:06:47,203
design element that has

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01:06:47,203 --> 01:06:48,204
a pedestrian environment along the

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01:06:48,204 --> 01:06:50,204
proposed streets.

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01:06:50,206 --> 01:06:51,207
The wide sidewalk that has a buffer with

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01:06:51,207 --> 01:06:53,607
the landscaping panel and

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01:06:54,210 --> 01:06:56,210
the street trees

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01:06:58,248 --> 01:06:59,249
create a very nice characteristic of

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01:06:59,249 --> 01:07:02,252
the pedestrian friendly environment. As my colleague, Tamika mentioned

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01:07:02,252 --> 01:07:05,852
we made this tall, glassy building

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01:07:06,256 --> 01:07:08,256
shows true lobbies

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01:07:09,259 --> 01:07:11,259
that connect

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01:07:11,261 --> 01:07:16,610
both sides of these buildings on building A

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01:07:18,234 --> 01:07:20,234
and creates

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01:07:20,236 --> 01:07:21,237
some sort of a front and back of this

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01:07:21,237 --> 01:07:23,237
building that are

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,240
equally important , as

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one front is facing Belward Campus drive

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fronting

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01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:30,246
the historic farm and the other front

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01:07:30,246 --> 01:07:32,246
is facing

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01:07:33,249 --> 01:07:36,252
the stream buffer on the north.

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01:07:36,252 --> 01:07:38,252
These

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01:07:39,255 --> 01:07:40,256
lobbies create a very nice

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01:07:40,256 --> 01:07:42,258
visual and physical connection between

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the two frontages.

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01:07:45,261 --> 01:07:47,261
>> This image

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01:07:48,231 --> 01:07:51,234
shows the north side of building

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01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:53,234
A

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01:07:54,237 --> 01:07:56,237
-four

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,242
and internal road letter a

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01:07:59,242 --> 01:08:00,243
on the north side. In this image you

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01:08:00,243 --> 01:08:02,243
can see the

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01:08:03,246 --> 01:08:05,246
massive articulation

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01:08:06,249 --> 01:08:07,250
in specific locations, such as

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01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:09,252
a series of terraces at the entryway

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01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:10,253
to the Plaza from Belward

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01:08:10,253 --> 01:08:11,254
campus Drive which creates opportunity

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01:08:11,254 --> 01:08:16,540
for the building user to have the view

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01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:18,261
towards all the open space on the

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01:08:18,261 --> 01:08:19,262
North and the

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01:08:19,262 --> 01:08:21,264
South. On the north elevation you can

1385
01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:24,264
also see double height terraces

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01:08:27,236 --> 01:08:29,236
which views towards

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01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:32,239
the stream value

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01:08:32,241 --> 01:08:33,242
buffer that creates a very unique opportunity

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01:08:33,242 --> 01:08:35,242
for this building.

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01:08:35,244 --> 01:08:36,245
Another design element for this development

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01:08:36,245 --> 01:08:38,245
is the

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01:08:39,248 --> 01:08:41,250
retail pavilion, which is in

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01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:44,253
the heart of the development which

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01:08:44,253 --> 01:08:46,255
elegantly sits in a slope and merges into

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01:08:46,255 --> 01:08:48,257
the environmental features of the

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01:08:48,257 --> 01:08:51,257
stream value buffer and provides

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01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:54,263
a unique public amenity for the

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01:08:54,263 --> 01:08:57,266
office users , as well as the greater community.

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01:08:57,266 --> 01:08:59,666
As it is shown

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01:09:00,269 --> 01:09:02,271
in this rendering, a series of

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01:09:02,271 --> 01:09:03,272
pedestrian paths , trails, stairs

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01:09:03,272 --> 01:09:05,272
and a rep

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01:09:05,274 --> 01:09:06,275
connects a different level of the retail

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01:09:06,275 --> 01:09:08,275
pavilion and creates

1405
01:09:08,277 --> 01:09:09,278
great opportunity for social gathering

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01:09:09,278 --> 01:09:11,278
inside and outside

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01:09:12,281 --> 01:09:14,281
the structure.

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01:09:15,284 --> 01:09:16,285
>>

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01:09:16,285 --> 01:09:18,287
Another design element of this office campus is

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01:09:18,287 --> 01:09:20,287
the provision

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01:09:20,289 --> 01:09:21,290
of the street parking structure ,

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01:09:21,290 --> 01:09:23,290
which will

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01:09:24,293 --> 01:09:27,296
expand through the phases as other

1414
01:09:27,296 --> 01:09:29,265
office buildings that

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01:09:29,265 --> 01:09:30,266
come along in the next phases. As

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01:09:30,266 --> 01:09:32,266
was mentioned , all

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01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:34,270
the surface

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01:09:34,270 --> 01:09:36,272
parking structure should be internal

1419
01:09:36,272 --> 01:09:39,275
into the block and hidden from

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01:09:39,275 --> 01:09:42,278
the public view. What you see on

1421
01:09:42,278 --> 01:09:45,281
this diagram shows that the parking structure

1422
01:09:45,281 --> 01:09:48,281
that is marked as P 2

1423
01:09:48,284 --> 01:09:51,287
is located along the muddy branch

1424
01:09:51,287 --> 01:09:53,287
Park and

1425
01:10:00,296 --> 01:10:02,696
the condition of the

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01:10:03,266 --> 01:10:05,268
staff report wants to work with applicants to

1427
01:10:05,268 --> 01:10:06,269
ensure the adequate screening for

1428
01:10:06,269 --> 01:10:08,669
this parking structure through

1429
01:10:09,272 --> 01:10:12,272
this certified site plan. Staff

1430
01:10:12,275 --> 01:10:14,277
believes this long exposed

1431
01:10:14,277 --> 01:10:15,278
parking structure as a backdrop to

1432
01:10:15,278 --> 01:10:17,278
this very well-designed

1433
01:10:18,281 --> 01:10:21,284
public park along muddy branch Road

1434
01:10:21,284 --> 01:10:23,684
should provide an additional

1435
01:10:24,287 --> 01:10:26,289
screening that is shown

1436
01:10:26,289 --> 01:10:27,290
on the screen. One of the conditions

1437
01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:29,290
is creating

1438
01:10:30,293 --> 01:10:32,693
screening on the western

1439
01:10:33,296 --> 01:10:36,296
façade which is highlighted

1440
01:10:42,271 --> 01:10:45,274
through the architecture element that articulates this almost

1441
01:10:45,274 --> 01:10:48,277
500 foot long façade from the fronting road and from

1442
01:10:48,277 --> 01:10:50,277
the public.

1443
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,283
The other condition is talking about creating a

1444
01:10:54,283 --> 01:10:57,283
vertical focal element at the

1445
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,320
terminus of

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01:11:00,323 --> 01:11:02,323
road B-three

1447
01:11:03,326 --> 01:11:05,326
through

1448
01:11:06,329 --> 01:11:09,298
the development of the park and through the

1449
01:11:09,298 --> 01:11:11,300
Western site. Number three

1450
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:12,301
screening the Eastern façade through

1451
01:11:12,301 --> 01:11:14,301
the

1452
01:11:14,303 --> 01:11:18,307
artistic elements that can be seen through

1453
01:11:18,307 --> 01:11:21,310
all the public facilities through the

1454
01:11:21,310 --> 01:11:23,310
stream

1455
01:11:23,312 --> 01:11:24,313
value buffer. I can further explain

1456
01:11:24,313 --> 01:11:26,315
all of this on the next

1457
01:11:26,315 --> 01:11:27,316
slide. >> To further evaluate the

1458
01:11:27,316 --> 01:11:29,316
design condition

1459
01:11:29,318 --> 01:11:30,319
that we would like to work with the

1460
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:32,319
applicants

1461
01:11:33,322 --> 01:11:35,322
on is , we

1462
01:11:35,324 --> 01:11:36,325
are showing the two façades on the

1463
01:11:36,325 --> 01:11:38,325
western side.

1464
01:11:39,328 --> 01:11:42,298
The image on the top is

1465
01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:45,301
the elevation that the applicant has proposed through

1466
01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:48,304
their final submission. It shows what the façade

1467
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:51,307
would look like and how the wide span

1468
01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:53,307
of utilitarian garages

1469
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:57,711
is almost 40 feet wide

1470
01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,316
. The image at the bottom is

1471
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:02,716
the staff's suggestions. Clearly,

1472
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:04,320
this two story structure looks very

1473
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,320
utilitarian with

1474
01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:09,325
the exposed ramp and the wide span. Staff

1475
01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:11,327
would like to work with the applicant

1476
01:12:11,327 --> 01:12:13,329
to ensure this particular façade gets

1477
01:12:13,329 --> 01:12:15,298
additional

1478
01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:18,298
articulation through the architecture element

1479
01:12:19,302 --> 01:12:20,303
to be perceived as a

1480
01:12:20,303 --> 01:12:22,305
very nice, well designed building

1481
01:12:22,305 --> 01:12:25,308
is a backdrop to this public

1482
01:12:25,308 --> 01:12:26,309
park along Muddy Branch Road.

1483
01:12:26,309 --> 01:12:28,311
Staff also recommends incorporating

1484
01:12:28,311 --> 01:12:30,311
vertical

1485
01:12:30,313 --> 01:12:33,313
and horizontal elements to further

1486
01:12:34,317 --> 01:12:37,317
articulate the elevation with a

1487
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,323
shorter span between the columns and providing vertical elements,

1488
01:12:40,323 --> 01:12:42,323
such as

1489
01:12:43,326 --> 01:12:46,326
stairs at the terminus of

1490
01:12:46,329 --> 01:12:48,329
B-3

1491
01:12:49,298 --> 01:12:51,298
. >> Furthermore

1492
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,337
, we are providing a couple of images

1493
01:12:54,337 --> 01:12:58,341
of how we would like to see this garage

1494
01:12:58,341 --> 01:13:00,341
get screened

1495
01:13:00,343 --> 01:13:02,743
throughout the different elevations.

1496
01:13:03,346 --> 01:13:06,349
As you see, these are some of the

1497
01:13:06,349 --> 01:13:09,352
examples of parking structures that use

1498
01:13:09,352 --> 01:13:11,354
the architecture element as there

1499
01:13:11,354 --> 01:13:14,357
screening techniques. The top left image

1500
01:13:14,357 --> 01:13:16,359
is from Pike and Rose and the other one

1501
01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:19,359
at the bottom clearly used

1502
01:13:20,363 --> 01:13:22,331
the architecture of the columns and bans.

1503
01:13:22,331 --> 01:13:24,333
The image on the right

1504
01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:25,334
again from Pike and Rose shows how

1505
01:13:25,334 --> 01:13:27,334
the use

1506
01:13:28,337 --> 01:13:30,339
of colorful windows and creating

1507
01:13:30,339 --> 01:13:31,340
a vertical element that this main façade

1508
01:13:31,340 --> 01:13:33,340
of the

1509
01:13:34,343 --> 01:13:37,343
garage has been nicely screened.

1510
01:13:37,346 --> 01:13:39,346
>>

1511
01:13:39,348 --> 01:13:42,351
Here, like we are showing a couple

1512
01:13:42,351 --> 01:13:43,352
of examples and present images of other

1513
01:13:43,352 --> 01:13:44,353
screening

1514
01:13:44,353 --> 01:13:46,355
techniques that the staff would like

1515
01:13:46,355 --> 01:13:49,358
to see on the Eastern façade

1516
01:13:49,358 --> 01:13:51,358
facing the stream

1517
01:13:52,361 --> 01:13:53,362
value buffer. The techniques ,

1518
01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:55,331
such as artwork and murals similar to

1519
01:13:55,331 --> 01:13:58,331
the two photos on the

1520
01:13:58,334 --> 01:14:01,337
right side that can create a really

1521
01:14:01,337 --> 01:14:04,340
nice backdrop to this stream value

1522
01:14:04,340 --> 01:14:07,343
buffer. Also, the images on the left

1523
01:14:07,343 --> 01:14:09,343
side show examples

1524
01:14:10,346 --> 01:14:11,347
of how it is

1525
01:14:11,347 --> 01:14:14,347
very inexpensive to use materials

1526
01:14:16,352 --> 01:14:18,354
that can be applied

1527
01:14:18,354 --> 01:14:19,355
to minimize the view into the parking

1528
01:14:19,355 --> 01:14:21,355
structure. These

1529
01:14:21,357 --> 01:14:22,358
are some examples of what the staff

1530
01:14:22,358 --> 01:14:24,358
would like

1531
01:14:25,361 --> 01:14:26,362
to see. At this

1532
01:14:26,362 --> 01:14:28,364
point I will turn back the presentation

1533
01:14:28,364 --> 01:14:31,334
to Tamika to walk us through

1534
01:14:31,334 --> 01:14:34,334
other aspects of the plan. >>

1535
01:14:34,337 --> 01:14:36,305
Thank you. We just have a few more. Then

1536
01:14:36,305 --> 01:14:40,309
, we will put it up for discussion.

1537
01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:42,309
The overall 107 acre

1538
01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:45,911
JHU site has a requirement for 20%

1539
01:14:46,315 --> 01:14:48,317
of public use space. This plan

1540
01:14:48,317 --> 01:14:51,317
is proposing to provide approximately

1541
01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:54,321
46.6

1542
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,364
percent of public use space which is

1543
01:15:01,364 --> 01:15:03,364
approximately 23

1544
01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:06,335
acres. The areas included

1545
01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:07,336
are highlighted and you can see them

1546
01:15:07,336 --> 01:15:09,336
in Green. They

1547
01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:11,340
are labeled as the Mission

1548
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:13,342
Hills preserve, the muddy branch Park,

1549
01:15:13,342 --> 01:15:16,342
and the stream Valley buffer.

1550
01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:18,345
We have also

1551
01:15:22,351 --> 01:15:24,351
labeled

1552
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:27,356
the urban green space that will

1553
01:15:27,356 --> 01:15:28,357
have a covenant for public access.

1554
01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:30,757
I wanted to point

1555
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,363
out that along with the trails

1556
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:35,364
in

1557
01:15:35,364 --> 01:15:37,333
this public use space, this really helps

1558
01:15:37,333 --> 01:15:40,336
to create a distinct place that contributes to

1559
01:15:40,336 --> 01:15:42,336
much-needed place

1560
01:15:42,338 --> 01:15:43,339
making in this area. >> Going through

1561
01:15:43,339 --> 01:15:45,339
each of

1562
01:15:46,342 --> 01:15:49,345
these public use space areas, the Mission

1563
01:15:49,345 --> 01:15:51,345
Hills preserve is

1564
01:15:52,348 --> 01:15:54,350
a 200 foot wide buffer

1565
01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:55,351
and was required in the master plan

1566
01:15:55,351 --> 01:15:57,351
to really protect

1567
01:15:57,353 --> 01:15:58,354
the residents of the Mission Hills

1568
01:15:58,354 --> 01:16:00,354
subdivision to

1569
01:16:01,357 --> 01:16:04,357
the north from this developing

1570
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,760
area to the south.

1571
01:16:07,363 --> 01:16:09,363
I want to

1572
01:16:10,332 --> 01:16:13,335
highlight that the applicant is providing

1573
01:16:13,335 --> 01:16:14,336
an illustrative

1574
01:16:14,336 --> 01:16:16,338
you at the bottom of the screen that is

1575
01:16:16,338 --> 01:16:18,338
taken from approximately

1576
01:16:19,341 --> 01:16:22,341
15 feet above grade. The amended

1577
01:16:22,344 --> 01:16:25,344
preliminary plan required the first

1578
01:16:25,347 --> 01:16:28,350
site plan, which in this case was

1579
01:16:28,350 --> 01:16:31,353
the JHU medical office building to

1580
01:16:31,353 --> 01:16:33,753
plant the buffer. Because

1581
01:16:34,356 --> 01:16:37,359
of some of the changes and market conditions, it turns

1582
01:16:37,359 --> 01:16:39,359
out that

1583
01:16:39,361 --> 01:16:40,362
that site plan might not be the first

1584
01:16:40,362 --> 01:16:41,363
one

1585
01:16:41,363 --> 01:16:43,332
to actually, come along and plant

1586
01:16:43,332 --> 01:16:45,332
the buffer.

1587
01:16:46,335 --> 01:16:47,336
What is happening is that the final

1588
01:16:47,336 --> 01:16:49,338
conservation force plan revises this

1589
01:16:49,338 --> 01:16:51,340
condition so that the approval

1590
01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:52,374
to link the Mission Hills preserve

1591
01:16:52,374 --> 01:16:54,374
planting buffer

1592
01:16:55,377 --> 01:16:57,377
requirements

1593
01:16:57,379 --> 01:16:59,381
to the first, second, or third set of

1594
01:16:59,381 --> 01:17:01,383
controlled permit . That way it is

1595
01:17:01,383 --> 01:17:03,383
planted regardless of

1596
01:17:04,386 --> 01:17:06,388
which project moves forward.

1597
01:17:06,388 --> 01:17:09,391
This ensures that the buffer is delivered

1598
01:17:09,391 --> 01:17:10,392
early in the development, which was

1599
01:17:10,392 --> 01:17:13,392
the anticipation of the master

1600
01:17:13,395 --> 01:17:16,365
plan to protect the abutting residents.

1601
01:17:16,365 --> 01:17:18,365
>> And

1602
01:17:18,367 --> 01:17:19,368
other premier aspect of this development is

1603
01:17:19,368 --> 01:17:21,368
the muddy

1604
01:17:22,371 --> 01:17:25,371
branch Park . We are really

1605
01:17:25,374 --> 01:17:26,375
pleased to see

1606
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:28,377
what the applicant is proposing here

1607
01:17:28,377 --> 01:17:31,380
in terms of proposing a plan.

1608
01:17:31,380 --> 01:17:33,382
The park needs to be a

1609
01:17:33,382 --> 01:17:37,386
total of 14 acres. It will be privately owned

1610
01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:40,389
public space. This phase of the plan

1611
01:17:40,389 --> 01:17:42,391
is delivering just under seven acres.

1612
01:17:42,391 --> 01:17:43,392
The applicant has been working really

1613
01:17:43,392 --> 01:17:45,392
hard to

1614
01:17:46,395 --> 01:17:48,397
refine the design that is

1615
01:17:48,397 --> 01:17:49,365
part of this. They have put forth

1616
01:17:49,365 --> 01:17:51,365
internal pathways and

1617
01:17:52,368 --> 01:17:54,368
an athletic field.

1618
01:17:55,371 --> 01:17:57,373
There are some concrete

1619
01:17:57,373 --> 01:18:00,973
terrorist areas and soft slope areas

1620
01:18:01,377 --> 01:18:03,379
and they are trying to work on the

1621
01:18:03,379 --> 01:18:04,380
grade with the existing land. They are

1622
01:18:04,380 --> 01:18:06,380
also incorporating storm

1623
01:18:07,383 --> 01:18:10,383
water management and native species.

1624
01:18:10,386 --> 01:18:13,389
They will be complying with the preliminary

1625
01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:15,391
plan recommendation that it will be

1626
01:18:15,391 --> 01:18:16,392
substantially completed before building permits

1627
01:18:16,392 --> 01:18:18,392
are issued

1628
01:18:19,395 --> 01:18:22,364
for more than 25% of the development.

1629
01:18:22,364 --> 01:18:25,364
>> So, the urban green , as

1630
01:18:25,367 --> 01:18:28,370
I mentioned earlier , the master plan

1631
01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:30,372
recommends that an urban Square is located

1632
01:18:30,372 --> 01:18:34,376
on the Belward property to serve as

1633
01:18:34,376 --> 01:18:35,377
a location for activity in

1634
01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:37,379
special events and to activate this

1635
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:40,382
area so it doesn't feel like just a

1636
01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:43,385
single use lab campus. That, it is

1637
01:18:43,385 --> 01:18:46,385
really space that nearby residents

1638
01:18:47,389 --> 01:18:49,789
can come and recreate

1639
01:18:50,392 --> 01:18:52,392
and partake in

1640
01:18:52,428 --> 01:18:56,398
other activities. So, the urban green is

1641
01:18:56,398 --> 01:18:58,398
actually proposed

1642
01:18:59,401 --> 01:19:00,402
just across the road C and is

1643
01:19:00,402 --> 01:19:04,200
located here to provide some synergy

1644
01:19:04,406 --> 01:19:05,407
with all of the nice amenities the

1645
01:19:05,407 --> 01:19:07,407
applicant

1646
01:19:07,409 --> 01:19:08,410
is proposing to provide for the outdoor seating

1647
01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:10,410
area for

1648
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:11,413
the Pavilion. The applicant is also

1649
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:13,413
requesting flexibility

1650
01:19:13,415 --> 01:19:16,418
that a portion of this urban green

1651
01:19:16,418 --> 01:19:17,419
to be within a secure campus area

1652
01:19:17,419 --> 01:19:19,419
because of

1653
01:19:20,422 --> 01:19:23,425
the needs of potential tenants. So,

1654
01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:25,427
this urban green , if it

1655
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:29,398
turns out that a future tenant would

1656
01:19:29,398 --> 01:19:32,401
need fencing , then it would be approximately one half

1657
01:19:32,401 --> 01:19:33,402
acre and if it is not needed ,

1658
01:19:33,402 --> 01:19:35,404
then we would have just over one acre

1659
01:19:35,404 --> 01:19:37,404
of the

1660
01:19:37,406 --> 01:19:38,407
urban green. I also want to point

1661
01:19:38,407 --> 01:19:39,408
out that

1662
01:19:39,408 --> 01:19:41,410
the applicant has really worked with

1663
01:19:41,410 --> 01:19:44,413
us to try to keep this

1664
01:19:44,413 --> 01:19:45,414
campus open

1665
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:47,416
as much as possible. They are proposing

1666
01:19:47,416 --> 01:19:49,418
to utilize an invisible

1667
01:19:49,418 --> 01:19:52,421
wall fence project or something of

1668
01:19:52,421 --> 01:19:53,422
the equivalent so there will be some

1669
01:19:53,422 --> 01:19:55,422
level of transparency

1670
01:19:55,424 --> 01:19:56,425
to ensure that the area that is outside of

1671
01:19:56,425 --> 01:19:58,425
the

1672
01:19:58,427 --> 01:19:59,428
fence still feels like a welcoming

1673
01:19:59,428 --> 01:20:02,398
place for users on the

1674
01:20:02,398 --> 01:20:04,398
other side.

1675
01:20:05,401 --> 01:20:07,401
>> Circling back to

1676
01:20:08,404 --> 01:20:09,405
forest conservation, again the

1677
01:20:09,405 --> 01:20:11,407
final force conservation plan was

1678
01:20:11,407 --> 01:20:13,407
filed for the

1679
01:20:14,410 --> 01:20:16,410
overall 107 acre site.

1680
01:20:17,413 --> 01:20:20,416
That was filed with the JHU

1681
01:20:20,416 --> 01:20:22,416
medical office building.

1682
01:20:26,422 --> 01:20:27,423
As I mentioned earlier, this is now going to stand

1683
01:20:27,423 --> 01:20:28,424
on its own and will be decoupled from

1684
01:20:28,424 --> 01:20:29,425
the 11 acre portion of the property. The site

1685
01:20:29,425 --> 01:20:32,428
does have some environmental features. It

1686
01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:33,429
has wetlands

1687
01:20:33,429 --> 01:20:37,290
and two streams and associated buffers.

1688
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,401
Close

1689
01:20:39,401 --> 01:20:41,403
to 30 acres of this site was originally

1690
01:20:41,403 --> 01:20:44,406
forest dead and is part of the initial

1691
01:20:44,406 --> 01:20:46,406
force conservation approval

1692
01:20:53,449 --> 01:20:56,449
and it covers the entire

1693
01:20:56,452 --> 01:20:58,454
130 acres from the very initial

1694
01:20:58,454 --> 01:20:59,455
preliminary plan. It also includes some

1695
01:20:59,455 --> 01:21:01,455
off-site

1696
01:21:02,458 --> 01:21:04,460
disturbance areas and attract

1697
01:21:04,460 --> 01:21:05,461
area for the final force conservation plan

1698
01:21:05,461 --> 01:21:07,461
and

1699
01:21:08,464 --> 01:21:11,433
it is 140 acres. Even though

1700
01:21:11,433 --> 01:21:13,833
this is superseding the

1701
01:21:14,436 --> 01:21:15,437
FFCP attached

1702
01:21:15,437 --> 01:21:17,439
to the JHU, we are still bringing

1703
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,441
forth those conditions that

1704
01:21:19,441 --> 01:21:23,410
were related to the environmental aspects.

1705
01:21:23,445 --> 01:21:25,447
We tried to highlight some of

1706
01:21:25,447 --> 01:21:28,450
the areas here on this plan. Lots

1707
01:21:28,450 --> 01:21:32,454
of notes and so forth, but you can

1708
01:21:32,454 --> 01:21:35,457
see here most of the property ,

1709
01:21:35,457 --> 01:21:38,460
the 25 acres of forest will be cleared

1710
01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:40,460
.

1711
01:21:41,463 --> 01:21:43,432
That is part of the previous

1712
01:21:43,432 --> 01:21:46,432
development on the eastern parcel.

1713
01:21:47,436 --> 01:21:50,439
There is a total of 3.85 acres of existing forest that

1714
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,439
will be retained.

1715
01:21:52,441 --> 01:21:54,443
The overall site has a total forced

1716
01:21:54,443 --> 01:21:56,843
mitigation requirement of 36.7 acres.

1717
01:21:59,448 --> 01:22:01,448
18.67 acres of reforestation

1718
01:22:01,450 --> 01:22:05,454
will be planted on site, as you can

1719
01:22:05,454 --> 01:22:08,454
see highlighted. And, a total

1720
01:22:08,457 --> 01:22:10,459
of 18 acres will be off-site in

1721
01:22:10,459 --> 01:22:13,462
a forest bank and that will be provided

1722
01:22:13,462 --> 01:22:16,462
with future phases of development.

1723
01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:21,437
>> There was a variance

1724
01:22:21,437 --> 01:22:22,437
request accused by the planning board

1725
01:22:22,437 --> 01:22:23,438
with the initial FFCP, but because of

1726
01:22:23,438 --> 01:22:25,838
the changes with the

1727
01:22:26,442 --> 01:22:29,442
site plan and the revised

1728
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:31,445
variance requests , these

1729
01:22:32,447 --> 01:22:34,450
requests are for new trees

1730
01:22:34,450 --> 01:22:38,500
that will be removed or disturbed.

1731
01:22:38,454 --> 01:22:40,455
That is for a total of eight

1732
01:22:40,455 --> 01:22:41,456
specimen trees to be removed and four

1733
01:22:41,456 --> 01:22:43,456
to

1734
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:46,860
be impacted , but retained.

1735
01:22:47,463 --> 01:22:49,464
So, based on our calculation , a

1736
01:22:49,464 --> 01:22:50,465
total of 24 three inch caliper trees

1737
01:22:50,465 --> 01:22:51,467
will need to be

1738
01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:53,469
planted for mitigation for the removal

1739
01:22:53,469 --> 01:22:55,469
of

1740
01:22:56,472 --> 01:22:58,472
the variance trees.

1741
01:22:59,474 --> 01:23:01,474
>> As

1742
01:23:02,477 --> 01:23:04,479
part of the board's approval

1743
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,481
we also have to look at the unwarranted

1744
01:23:05,481 --> 01:23:07,481
hardship with the

1745
01:23:08,483 --> 01:23:09,485
variance request. In staffs

1746
01:23:09,485 --> 01:23:11,486
assessment of the variance, it was

1747
01:23:11,486 --> 01:23:13,886
determined that leaving the

1748
01:23:14,490 --> 01:23:17,490
12 trees in their undisturbed state

1749
01:23:17,492 --> 01:23:20,495
would result in an unwarranted hardship to

1750
01:23:20,495 --> 01:23:21,496
the applicant cause of the following reasons that

1751
01:23:21,496 --> 01:23:23,465
are listed here. They are related

1752
01:23:23,465 --> 01:23:24,466
to the

1753
01:23:24,466 --> 01:23:26,468
development of the property related

1754
01:23:26,468 --> 01:23:27,469
to

1755
01:23:27,469 --> 01:23:29,471
the infrastructure needed to support

1756
01:23:29,471 --> 01:23:31,471
the development, site

1757
01:23:33,475 --> 01:23:35,477
grading and so on we find the findings

1758
01:23:35,477 --> 01:23:38,480
for the tree variance have been met

1759
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,482
and the required education

1760
01:23:40,482 --> 01:23:41,483
will replace the form and function

1761
01:23:41,483 --> 01:23:43,883
of the variance trees

1762
01:23:44,486 --> 01:23:46,455
that are proposed for removal. So, denial

1763
01:23:46,455 --> 01:23:47,456
of the variance would constitute hardship

1764
01:23:47,456 --> 01:23:49,456
to the

1765
01:23:50,459 --> 01:23:52,461
applicant. For that reason, staff is recommending

1766
01:23:52,461 --> 01:23:53,462
the planning board support the variance request.

1767
01:23:53,462 --> 01:23:55,862
I will just wrap

1768
01:23:56,431 --> 01:23:59,434
up here , but I want to touch a

1769
01:23:59,434 --> 01:24:01,436
little bit more about

1770
01:24:01,436 --> 01:24:02,437
the community comments we have received.

1771
01:24:02,437 --> 01:24:04,437
And, obviously

1772
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:06,441
this applicant had

1773
01:24:06,441 --> 01:24:08,443
a pre-submission community meeting.

1774
01:24:08,443 --> 01:24:10,445
They actually had two

1775
01:24:10,445 --> 01:24:11,446
and they provided a lot of information to

1776
01:24:11,446 --> 01:24:13,446
the community

1777
01:24:13,448 --> 01:24:14,449
that is very engaged in this project.

1778
01:24:14,449 --> 01:24:17,452
There were a number of questions

1779
01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:18,453
and concerns that came

1780
01:24:18,453 --> 01:24:20,455
up and folks are really concerned

1781
01:24:20,455 --> 01:24:23,458
about the preservation of the historic

1782
01:24:23,458 --> 01:24:25,460
Belward farm and the setting.

1783
01:24:25,460 --> 01:24:26,461
Questions about traffic came up and

1784
01:24:26,461 --> 01:24:28,461
the people

1785
01:24:29,431 --> 01:24:31,433
also had questions about

1786
01:24:31,433 --> 01:24:32,434
the program on Muddy Branch Park and

1787
01:24:32,434 --> 01:24:34,434
provided various

1788
01:24:35,437 --> 01:24:37,437
comments about

1789
01:24:38,440 --> 01:24:41,440
the program in the park.

1790
01:24:41,443 --> 01:24:44,446
In response to the most pressing question on

1791
01:24:44,446 --> 01:24:47,482
traffic, I wanted to note that we had

1792
01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:49,482
various agencies review

1793
01:24:50,485 --> 01:24:52,485
the circulation or

1794
01:24:53,488 --> 01:24:55,488
access points

1795
01:24:56,491 --> 01:24:57,492
, but a brand-new traffic study was

1796
01:24:57,492 --> 01:24:59,494
not required. That is primarily because the

1797
01:24:59,494 --> 01:25:01,496
overall site has received

1798
01:25:01,496 --> 01:25:02,497
APF determination in connection with

1799
01:25:02,497 --> 01:25:04,497
the prior

1800
01:25:05,467 --> 01:25:07,467
--or

1801
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:10,472
the current preliminary plan

1802
01:25:10,472 --> 01:25:11,473
amendment. That APF determination

1803
01:25:11,473 --> 01:25:13,473
remains

1804
01:25:14,476 --> 01:25:16,476
violet and

1805
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,479
is

1806
01:25:19,481 --> 01:25:20,482
used to confirm the adequacy of the public roads to support

1807
01:25:20,482 --> 01:25:22,482
up to 1.4 million.

1808
01:25:22,484 --> 01:25:23,485
So, a new traffic study may be triggered

1809
01:25:23,485 --> 01:25:25,485
with future site

1810
01:25:26,488 --> 01:25:30,492
plans that exceed the current development capacity

1811
01:25:30,492 --> 01:25:32,494
for what has been approved.

1812
01:25:32,494 --> 01:25:33,495
I also want to note that the applicant

1813
01:25:33,495 --> 01:25:35,495
came out

1814
01:25:35,497 --> 01:25:38,467
twice to present to the great Seneca

1815
01:25:38,467 --> 01:25:40,469
science corridor limitation advisory

1816
01:25:40,469 --> 01:25:42,471
committee. Had some really fruitful discussions

1817
01:25:42,471 --> 01:25:44,471
about

1818
01:25:44,473 --> 01:25:46,475
the progress of this site and what has happened

1819
01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:47,476
between concept plan and the plan

1820
01:25:47,476 --> 01:25:50,479
you have before you. Since the staff

1821
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,679
report posted we did receive four additional

1822
01:25:58,487 --> 01:25:59,488
correspondences and I'm happy to report

1823
01:25:59,488 --> 01:26:00,489
that all of them were in support of

1824
01:26:00,489 --> 01:26:03,492
the plan. I think the summary is that people

1825
01:26:03,492 --> 01:26:05,494
are really ready to see this campus

1826
01:26:05,494 --> 01:26:06,495
come alive. We have heard a lot of that

1827
01:26:06,495 --> 01:26:08,495
in

1828
01:26:09,464 --> 01:26:10,465
the comments. We also had

1829
01:26:10,465 --> 01:26:12,467
a question about the clarification

1830
01:26:12,467 --> 01:26:13,468
of the timing of the

1831
01:26:13,468 --> 01:26:15,470
Mission Hills preserve, which I noted

1832
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:18,473
there will be some slight changes and

1833
01:26:18,473 --> 01:26:21,473
ensure the buffer is planted

1834
01:26:21,476 --> 01:26:22,477
early on

1835
01:26:22,477 --> 01:26:23,478
in the development regardless of which project

1836
01:26:23,478 --> 01:26:24,479
moves forward. There was a question

1837
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,479
about

1838
01:26:27,482 --> 01:26:29,484
the parking structure , could we have

1839
01:26:29,484 --> 01:26:30,485
less parking structures ? I think

1840
01:26:30,485 --> 01:26:32,485
it is

1841
01:26:33,488 --> 01:26:36,488
really difficult to accommodate this

1842
01:26:36,491 --> 01:26:39,491
amount of development with less

1843
01:26:39,494 --> 01:26:41,496
parking structures . We also

1844
01:26:41,496 --> 01:26:44,496
had questions about construction noise.

1845
01:26:45,467 --> 01:26:47,502
At a later date the applicant

1846
01:26:47,502 --> 01:26:51,506
will have more information for the community

1847
01:26:51,506 --> 01:26:54,509
about the timing of construction and

1848
01:26:54,509 --> 01:26:55,510
when that will happen. >> I will

1849
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:57,512
close with letting the board know that

1850
01:26:57,512 --> 01:26:59,512
the site

1851
01:26:59,514 --> 01:27:00,515
plan meets all the applicable requirements

1852
01:27:00,515 --> 01:27:02,515
of the

1853
01:27:03,518 --> 01:27:07,118
zoning ordinance, as well as the

1854
01:27:07,522 --> 01:27:09,524
master plan. This development is in

1855
01:27:09,524 --> 01:27:13,124
conformance with the standards of the

1856
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:16,498
zoning. It

1857
01:27:16,498 --> 01:27:20,502
is adequate with the public you space

1858
01:27:20,502 --> 01:27:21,503
and is compliant with the surrounding

1859
01:27:21,503 --> 01:27:22,504
neighborhood. All of

1860
01:27:22,504 --> 01:27:24,506
the public facilities will be adequate to

1861
01:27:24,506 --> 01:27:26,506
serve the site.

1862
01:27:27,509 --> 01:27:30,512
I also wanted to state again

1863
01:27:30,512 --> 01:27:32,514
that this site plan is not

1864
01:27:32,514 --> 01:27:33,515
impacting the historic farm and it

1865
01:27:33,515 --> 01:27:35,915
will maintain views of

1866
01:27:36,518 --> 01:27:38,520
the farm. We have listed all

1867
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,524
the other findings in the staff report.

1868
01:27:42,524 --> 01:27:44,526
>> I do have a couple

1869
01:27:44,526 --> 01:27:45,527
of things to bring to your attention.

1870
01:27:45,527 --> 01:27:47,527
We

1871
01:27:47,529 --> 01:27:50,529
have two revisions , two conditions

1872
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and the items are

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the texts

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in blue which are the additions and

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the

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strikethrough in red font is where

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we

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are proposing to have them removed. This

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is to bring the condition up to speed

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with the

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revised plan the applicant has submitted.

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The second condition

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is simply related

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to making sure that one of the exhibits

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you saw today that has the acreage

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for Muddy

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Branch Park is included in the certified site.

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Very minor. Again, staff

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recommends that the planning board approved

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the site plan, as well as the forced

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conservation plan for Belward Campus.

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We are happy to answer any

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questions. >>

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Yes? >> Thank you.

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It was

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really comprehensive. Yes, we

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are looking forward

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to seeing the campus come alive.

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Maybe, some comments or questions,

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I do understand

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that the parking structures

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were not put in the graphic.

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I do not know if it was anywhere in

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the report about how high they are. Do

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they go underground?

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I thought you put some inspirational graphic ,

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but that is not really what there will be

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out there.

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They are big structures that will

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be there. It

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would be nice , at one point where

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you showed the buildings

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that the structures for the parking

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will be overlaid and people

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can see

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how that parking structures will look.

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I

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totally agree with you , with the

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treatment you are suggesting

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to make sure it looks

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as beautiful as the

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architectural treatment you have provided

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for the buildings.

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It would be good to know the height. >>

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Can you answer the question on the

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height? >>

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I think Natasha may jump in, but

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for the record, this is Tamika Graham. The garage Heights are shorter

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than the buildings . The shortest building

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is 100 feet tall. They are shown from

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the street level

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to be two stories, but they have four levels of

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parking. >> Do they

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go underground? >>

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I

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like the commercial pavilion looks

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two tiered and it looks like

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it is standing by it self. When I

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was reading

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the report, somehow you were saying

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it could come into the

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building. I didn't understand exactly

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if the shape of the pavilion

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is going to change the location?

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The way you have shown

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it, I really like it. Is that going

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to change? >>

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I think you may be referring

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--

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they are proposing 6000 square feet

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above ground for the retail pavilion.

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The applicant

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has requested flexibility

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to potentially , relocate

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up to 6000 square feet

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on the ground floors of the buildings.

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That is where the language talks about

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shifting.

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One of the reasons

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the applicant is requesting flexibility is

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because with the three buildings they

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are proposing , it may not be enough

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to support

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the retail. So, they want to have

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the ability to do something else if they

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are not able

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to deliver it. >> So, you are saying that

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it is a possibility that the pavilion

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won't be that

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at all? >> That is a possibility from

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what I understand

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and speaking with the applicant team.

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The pavilion

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is shown at full buildout because

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they will

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need additional buildings and additional foot

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traffic to support

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the full vision

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of the pavilion. >> So, if that goes away

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how does it work in conjunction with the

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other buildings?

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Would that be

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in conjunction with the pavilion then?

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Another comment I had is that

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, I understand they are trying very hard

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to

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make sure it is welcoming for

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people outside , that they can come and use it. But

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when you add the structured parking and other parking it

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sort of looks like this area is just

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for the excluded

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use

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of the businesses.

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Even though you say it is open, people

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may not be able to come to use

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it. >> Let's hear from

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the people who want to speak. Let's hear from

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the applicant. >> Yes.

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>> Go ahead. >>

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We will hear

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from

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the people who want to testify and the applicant and then we will

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have questions. That is what I hope

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for. >> If we could hear

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from Jeremy Lee please. >>

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Is he there?

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No?

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>> Can you hear me? >> Yes, go ahead. >>

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Okay. >>

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Three minutes , please. >>

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What is going on? Are

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01:34:47,615 --> 01:34:49,617
you there? Mr. Lee?

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>> Yes, can you hear me? >> Yes. You have

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three

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minutes. Please make your comments. >>

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All right.

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I live

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about three minutes walking distance

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from the

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future site. So, I am called

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a neighbor. The second thing I want

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to say

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is that I really like the idea

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for research, recreation

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, retail and conservation.

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The third thing I want to say is,

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I came from China

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in 1982 .

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I served in the U.S. Navy for

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23 years and retired as a

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naval officer. So,

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for the 40 years in this country I

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have seen a lot

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of things happening in this world.

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The United States

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has lost a lot of industrial and manufacturing

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capacity .

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But, one thing that

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is critical to this country now and

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in the future is the

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01:36:05,627 --> 01:36:07,629
bio industry , which we are

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01:36:07,629 --> 01:36:08,630
still number one in the world. So,

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I am

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very glad to see a

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future site

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with the capacity to boost the

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01:36:26,614 --> 01:36:29,617
bio and medical industry. That will be

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good for the neighborhood , for the county

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01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:34,620
, for Maryland

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and for this country. So, looking forward

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to seeing the new site. You so much. >>

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Thank you very much. Paula Ross

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from

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the Gaithersburg Germantown Chamber

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of Commerce.

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You have eight minutes if you need

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it. >>

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Thank you. I don't think I will need

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eight minutes. Hello members of the

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planning board.

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My name is Paula Ross and I am testifying

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today on behalf of the Gaithersburg Germantown

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Chamber of

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Commerce. Since 1949 , we have

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continued to

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evolve to meet the challenges of today's business

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leaders. We provide unique and measurable benefits

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for businesses

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of all industries and all sizes and currently, we represent

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over

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450 businesses located in or during business

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in the county. We strongly support

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the sub site plan application

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for the

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Belward Campus of John's Hopkins University

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and

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encourage the planning board to approve

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the application. Trammell Crow's company

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and the plan for the new bias

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bioscience plan is consistent with

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the great

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Seneca science corridor Master plan.

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It creates an innovation ecosystem

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within a campus

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like environment by establishing an open

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and

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inviting place.

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Not only those who

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will work on the campus, but also

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for neighbors and the surrounding

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01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:00,641
community. From an

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economic development standpoint the

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proposal advances Montgomery's

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plan to have

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an

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increase in jobs in the industries we

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are working hard to attract. A look

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at the renderings

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demonstrates Trammell Crow's company sensitivity

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to respecting the landscaping of the

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site. They focused on placing the

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lap office

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buildings and parking structures in

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such a way as to blend into the shape of the train

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and minimize

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the view from neighboring homes. They

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are committed to providing significant

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open and green space, including a new

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Muddy Branch

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Park and the buffer between

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adjacent homes and the campus.

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Several miles of walking paths and trails have been placed throughout

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the site and the additional of

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retail options on the campus will

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be a plus for the community. Part

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of our chambers mission

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is to advocate for policies that enhance

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the well-being of our unique communities

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. This is why we strongly support

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Trammell Crow's

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site plan amendment for

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the Belward Campus of the John's Hopkins University.

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Thank you for

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considering our testimony

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and for all you do on behalf of County residents. My

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written testimony has also been submitted. >> Thank you

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very much for your testimony.

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>> Good morning .

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I am

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Rodney and I appreciate the

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opportunity to testify. I am a resident of

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the Mission Hills

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neighborhood adjacent to the Belward site

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. We

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are right on Mission Hills Drive the

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farm has been in my backyard for 25 years.

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I appreciated the

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plans that been coming together over

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the past couple

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of decades ,

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we knew this site was going to be developed

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and we certainly have seen

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a variety

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of options come up and be presented.

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The current one that has been developed by

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John's Hopkins University and Trammell Crow looks very attractive and very

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enticing and it provides a

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unique opportunity to further balance

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green spaces , commercial retail development

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, parks, etc.

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. We are looking forward to it. That said, as

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a resident of the neighborhood immediately adjacent

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to the development, I had a

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couple of things I wanted to mention

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01:40:26,687 --> 01:40:29,690
specific to this testimony. Before I do that

2156
01:40:29,690 --> 01:40:31,692
I wanted to say ,

2157
01:40:31,692 --> 01:40:32,693
we in the community here adjacent

2158
01:40:32,693 --> 01:40:34,693
to the property

2159
01:40:35,696 --> 01:40:37,696
appreciate the communication

2160
01:40:38,699 --> 01:40:41,702
that has been brought forth by John's Hopkins

2161
01:40:41,702 --> 01:40:43,702
University and

2162
01:40:44,705 --> 01:40:46,707
Trammell Crow to engage us in the process, as well

2163
01:40:46,707 --> 01:40:47,708
as the planning board to engage the community members in the process. It

2164
01:40:47,708 --> 01:40:49,708
is extraordinarily

2165
01:40:50,711 --> 01:40:51,712
helpful to have an opportunity

2166
01:40:51,712 --> 01:40:53,714
to speak and identify concerns, some

2167
01:40:53,714 --> 01:40:55,716
of which have been brought up today. First,

2168
01:40:55,716 --> 01:40:56,717
and I will take a couple of minutes, as to

2169
01:40:56,717 --> 01:40:58,717
make a

2170
01:40:58,719 --> 01:40:59,720
ancient earlier, the forced conservation plan

2171
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,720
includes

2172
01:41:02,723 --> 01:41:05,726
the Mission Hills buffer which is

2173
01:41:05,726 --> 01:41:08,726
additional green space that will

2174
01:41:08,729 --> 01:41:11,699
be in between the Mission Hills Drive

2175
01:41:11,699 --> 01:41:14,990
homes and the site .

2176
01:41:14,702 --> 01:41:17,705
Originally , as Tamika mentioned earlier it

2177
01:41:17,705 --> 01:41:18,706
was planned to be developed first

2178
01:41:18,706 --> 01:41:20,706
as part

2179
01:41:21,709 --> 01:41:23,711
of the surgical center

2180
01:41:23,711 --> 01:41:24,712
that will take place on the southern

2181
01:41:24,712 --> 01:41:25,713
side of

2182
01:41:25,713 --> 01:41:26,714
the property along Key West Avenue.

2183
01:41:26,714 --> 01:41:27,715
Are you saw on the documents today,

2184
01:41:27,715 --> 01:41:29,715
that development is

2185
01:41:30,718 --> 01:41:32,718
now changing , so

2186
01:41:33,721 --> 01:41:35,723
it should happen early in the process

2187
01:41:35,723 --> 01:41:36,724
, but the approval process today states

2188
01:41:36,724 --> 01:41:38,724
that it

2189
01:41:38,726 --> 01:41:41,726
could happen pretty much anytime.

2190
01:41:41,729 --> 01:41:43,731
It could be simultaneous with the rest

2191
01:41:43,731 --> 01:41:45,700
of development. I think the idea of

2192
01:41:45,700 --> 01:41:47,700
the preserve

2193
01:41:47,702 --> 01:41:48,703
, which is rarely stated a couple

2194
01:41:48,703 --> 01:41:50,705
of years ago was

2195
01:41:50,705 --> 01:41:51,706
to create, not just a buffer visually,

2196
01:41:51,706 --> 01:41:53,706
but

2197
01:41:53,708 --> 01:41:54,709
would reduce some of the sound and

2198
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:55,710
dust that

2199
01:41:55,710 --> 01:41:57,712
will likely occur as the property

2200
01:41:57,712 --> 01:41:59,712
and farm

2201
01:42:00,715 --> 01:42:02,715
are under construction.

2202
01:42:03,718 --> 01:42:04,685
As things have changed

2203
01:42:04,685 --> 01:42:06,687
and evolved in the current site plan

2204
01:42:06,687 --> 01:42:09,690
and the process you are in

2205
01:42:09,690 --> 01:42:11,692
front of today allows

2206
01:42:11,692 --> 01:42:12,693
that buffer to be developed at any time.

2207
01:42:12,693 --> 01:42:15,696
I would recommend the planning board

2208
01:42:15,696 --> 01:42:17,665
consider requesting that regardless

2209
01:42:17,665 --> 01:42:20,665
of which development begins first

2210
01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:24,672
that the Mission Hills buffer be created

2211
01:42:24,672 --> 01:42:27,720
so as to mitigate

2212
01:42:29,677 --> 01:42:32,677
prior to any large-scale development

2213
01:42:33,681 --> 01:42:34,682
on the boundary of

2214
01:42:34,682 --> 01:42:35,683
the property to avoid or minimize and

2215
01:42:35,683 --> 01:42:36,684
mitigate some of the larger impacts that

2216
01:42:36,684 --> 01:42:37,718
will take place on

2217
01:42:37,718 --> 01:42:39,720
the property as it comes together.

2218
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,720
Second, I wanted

2219
01:42:41,722 --> 01:42:42,723
to make a note and this is somewhat

2220
01:42:42,723 --> 01:42:44,723
related to

2221
01:42:45,726 --> 01:42:47,728
the development and the process for that.

2222
01:42:47,728 --> 01:42:50,728
The communication has been excellent

2223
01:42:51,699 --> 01:42:54,699
and we continue that to

2224
01:42:54,702 --> 01:42:55,703
expect between the folks in

2225
01:42:55,703 --> 01:42:57,705
the county. As you are aware, the

2226
01:42:57,705 --> 01:42:59,705
ongoing development of

2227
01:43:00,708 --> 01:43:03,708
the site being developed with

2228
01:43:03,711 --> 01:43:04,712
630 new residential

2229
01:43:04,712 --> 01:43:06,714
sites across the street from the Belward site

2230
01:43:06,714 --> 01:43:09,717
at the intersection of Key West

2231
01:43:09,717 --> 01:43:12,117
and great Seneca , there

2232
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,723
is some very large and heavy duty construction taking place

2233
01:43:15,723 --> 01:43:17,725
the last half of

2234
01:43:17,725 --> 01:43:18,726
the year. It has been surprisingly

2235
01:43:18,726 --> 01:43:20,726
noisy,

2236
01:43:20,728 --> 01:43:24,698
even though we are a good distance

2237
01:43:24,698 --> 01:43:25,700
from it. So, in the

2238
01:43:25,700 --> 01:43:27,701
immediate communities we are aware of

2239
01:43:27,701 --> 01:43:29,704
the fact that this will be

2240
01:43:29,704 --> 01:43:30,705
a pretty noisy process for a couple

2241
01:43:30,705 --> 01:43:32,705
of years.

2242
01:43:33,707 --> 01:43:36,710
There have been a few off

2243
01:43:36,710 --> 01:43:39,710
our development activities that are

2244
01:43:39,713 --> 01:43:41,713
fairly obvious , and

2245
01:43:42,717 --> 01:43:44,718
by that I mean noisy and are taking place

2246
01:43:44,718 --> 01:43:48,318
prior to 7:00 A.M. and occasionally

2247
01:43:48,722 --> 01:43:49,723
on weekends. I wanted

2248
01:43:49,723 --> 01:43:51,726
to request that the planning board

2249
01:43:51,726 --> 01:43:53,726
assure that our

2250
01:43:57,698 --> 01:44:00,701
condition will be considered for large

2251
01:44:00,701 --> 01:44:01,702
and

2252
01:44:01,702 --> 01:44:03,704
heavy machinery specific to large-scale development

2253
01:44:03,704 --> 01:44:05,704
and

2254
01:44:05,706 --> 01:44:06,707
that they are confined within hours

2255
01:44:06,707 --> 01:44:08,709
and don't take place on weekends

2256
01:44:08,709 --> 01:44:09,710
to mitigate the noise pollution that

2257
01:44:09,710 --> 01:44:11,710
will

2258
01:44:12,713 --> 01:44:15,713
be coming. >> Thank you for

2259
01:44:15,716 --> 01:44:18,116
your testimony. >> Thank you.

2260
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:21,119
>> Did you have another

2261
01:44:21,722 --> 01:44:23,722
point? >>

2262
01:44:24,725 --> 01:44:27,728
No, I am fine. Thank you. >> Thank you

2263
01:44:27,728 --> 01:44:29,728
for your testimony.

2264
01:44:29,730 --> 01:44:30,731
There are no other public speakers.

2265
01:44:30,731 --> 01:44:32,731
I

2266
01:44:33,701 --> 01:44:35,703
just have to say that it

2267
01:44:35,703 --> 01:44:39,740
was remarkable for this amount of development

2268
01:44:39,740 --> 01:44:41,742
to have such positive testimony. Now, we

2269
01:44:41,742 --> 01:44:45,746
will hear from the applicant. >> Good morning

2270
01:44:45,746 --> 01:44:47,746
chair and commissioners.

2271
01:44:48,749 --> 01:44:50,751
I would like to thank you for

2272
01:44:50,751 --> 01:44:51,752
the opportunity to present our project today

2273
01:44:51,752 --> 01:44:53,752
.

2274
01:44:54,755 --> 01:44:57,755
I would like to acknowledge

2275
01:44:57,758 --> 01:45:00,758
and give a deep thank

2276
01:45:00,761 --> 01:45:02,763
you to Tamika Brown and her hard work

2277
01:45:02,763 --> 01:45:03,764
in partnership to help us arrive here

2278
01:45:03,764 --> 01:45:05,733
, today.

2279
01:45:05,733 --> 01:45:06,734
My comments will be brief , but for

2280
01:45:06,734 --> 01:45:08,734
the record my

2281
01:45:09,737 --> 01:45:11,739
name is Eric Fischer. I am

2282
01:45:11,739 --> 01:45:12,740
a managing director as well as the principle

2283
01:45:12,740 --> 01:45:15,140
with Trammell Crow Company

2284
01:45:15,743 --> 01:45:17,743
, the applicant. I

2285
01:45:18,746 --> 01:45:21,746
have been with Trammell Crow

2286
01:45:21,749 --> 01:45:22,750
company for 20 years and a leader of

2287
01:45:22,750 --> 01:45:25,750
life sciences and healthcare initiatives.

2288
01:45:27,755 --> 01:45:28,756
I think

2289
01:45:28,756 --> 01:45:29,757
it is important, giving that we're going

2290
01:45:29,757 --> 01:45:30,758
to be working with each other over the

2291
01:45:30,758 --> 01:45:32,758
next

2292
01:45:33,761 --> 01:45:36,764
decade, and this is an extraordinary project

2293
01:45:36,764 --> 01:45:37,731
represented billions of dollars

2294
01:45:37,731 --> 01:45:39,733
in the county that we get to know

2295
01:45:39,733 --> 01:45:40,734
each other , given that we will

2296
01:45:40,734 --> 01:45:42,736
be working with each other. I will

2297
01:45:42,736 --> 01:45:45,739
focus a bit on the project, but I

2298
01:45:45,739 --> 01:45:47,739
think Tamika

2299
01:45:48,742 --> 01:45:49,743
did an extraordinary job of

2300
01:45:49,743 --> 01:45:50,744
overviewing it. I want to spend a

2301
01:45:50,744 --> 01:45:51,745
bit of time on us and issues with

2302
01:45:51,745 --> 01:45:53,747
the project. We just heard about

2303
01:45:53,747 --> 01:45:54,748
me and I think it is important that

2304
01:45:54,748 --> 01:45:56,750
you understand a bit about our

2305
01:45:56,750 --> 01:45:57,751
company. Trammell Crow was founded

2306
01:45:57,751 --> 01:45:59,751
in 1947

2307
01:46:00,754 --> 01:46:02,756
. Today , we have the

2308
01:46:02,756 --> 01:46:03,757
good fortune of being the nation's

2309
01:46:03,757 --> 01:46:05,757
largest and most

2310
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,762
Olympic developer in the

2311
01:46:08,762 --> 01:46:09,763
U.S. We have offices all throughout

2312
01:46:09,763 --> 01:46:12,733
the United States, as well

2313
01:46:12,733 --> 01:46:14,733
as Europe . I

2314
01:46:14,735 --> 01:46:15,736
believe it is 29 or 28 offices. We

2315
01:46:15,736 --> 01:46:17,736
focus

2316
01:46:18,739 --> 01:46:21,139
primarily on office healthcare,

2317
01:46:21,742 --> 01:46:24,142
life sciences , mixed use

2318
01:46:24,745 --> 01:46:26,745
, residential , industrial and

2319
01:46:26,747 --> 01:46:27,748
logistics. I have the good fortune

2320
01:46:27,748 --> 01:46:30,148
of being responsible for

2321
01:46:30,751 --> 01:46:31,752
healthcare and life sciences and

2322
01:46:31,752 --> 01:46:33,754
then based here in Maryland. My office

2323
01:46:33,754 --> 01:46:35,754
is in

2324
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:38,792
Washington, D.C. Today,

2325
01:46:38,792 --> 01:46:39,793
we have nearly $39 billion with the

2326
01:46:39,793 --> 01:46:41,793
projects going

2327
01:46:41,795 --> 01:46:45,995
on throughout the U.S. and Europe.

2328
01:46:48,769 --> 01:46:50,769
>> I think

2329
01:46:51,772 --> 01:46:54,772
, as I echoed earlier in

2330
01:46:54,775 --> 01:46:56,775
my introduction ,

2331
01:46:57,778 --> 01:47:00,178
understanding each other is

2332
01:47:00,781 --> 01:47:03,784
really defined by the values of our company.

2333
01:47:03,784 --> 01:47:06,184
We live by our

2334
01:47:06,787 --> 01:47:09,187
values which Intel respect,

2335
01:47:09,790 --> 01:47:11,792
integrity, service and excellence. They really frame our

2336
01:47:11,792 --> 01:47:12,793
commitment to the county and to the

2337
01:47:12,793 --> 01:47:15,193
state and region and

2338
01:47:15,796 --> 01:47:18,196
the community. That is

2339
01:47:19,767 --> 01:47:21,767
sustainability, ethics

2340
01:47:21,769 --> 01:47:25,369
and compliance, health, safety and wellness,

2341
01:47:25,773 --> 01:47:27,775
our team and culture and

2342
01:47:27,775 --> 01:47:30,775
more important, the communities and

2343
01:47:30,778 --> 01:47:32,780
giving back to the communities. I

2344
01:47:32,780 --> 01:47:34,782
really acknowledge one of the individuals

2345
01:47:34,782 --> 01:47:36,782
I called

2346
01:47:36,784 --> 01:47:37,785
in. This is an extraordinary project

2347
01:47:37,785 --> 01:47:38,786
that

2348
01:47:38,786 --> 01:47:40,788
will bring incredible opportunity

2349
01:47:40,788 --> 01:47:42,788
to the county

2350
01:47:43,791 --> 01:47:45,791
.

2351
01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:47,795
We are working with

2352
01:47:47,795 --> 01:47:49,797
amazing global companies that are

2353
01:47:49,797 --> 01:47:51,765
expressing interest

2354
01:47:51,765 --> 01:47:55,769
in being here in Belward. As many of

2355
01:47:55,769 --> 01:47:56,770
you know, Maryland ranks number

2356
01:47:56,770 --> 01:47:58,772
four in the U.S. related to life sciences.

2357
01:47:58,772 --> 01:48:01,772
Montgomery county is number one.

2358
01:48:01,775 --> 01:48:02,776
The most important defining element going

2359
01:48:02,776 --> 01:48:04,778
forward in the future is labor and

2360
01:48:04,778 --> 01:48:06,778
supply of

2361
01:48:06,780 --> 01:48:09,780
labor. Interestingly, our Belward site

2362
01:48:10,784 --> 01:48:11,785
ranks number one in the U.S. for

2363
01:48:11,785 --> 01:48:13,787
labor analytics. That is a defining

2364
01:48:13,787 --> 01:48:15,787
element going forward

2365
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:17,791
and as a person who

2366
01:48:17,791 --> 01:48:19,793
has done this for a very long time, this

2367
01:48:19,793 --> 01:48:20,794
is what I am most excited

2368
01:48:20,794 --> 01:48:22,796
about. From the life sciences perspective

2369
01:48:22,796 --> 01:48:25,196
, we are currently involved

2370
01:48:25,766 --> 01:48:27,766
with roughly $3.9 billion

2371
01:48:27,768 --> 01:48:30,768
in projects throughout Maryland , Boston

2372
01:48:31,772 --> 01:48:33,772
, Atlanta, Chicago,

2373
01:48:34,808 --> 01:48:36,810
San Francisco , and San Diego. All of

2374
01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:37,811
our projects follow very similar themes,

2375
01:48:37,811 --> 01:48:39,811
best in

2376
01:48:39,813 --> 01:48:40,814
class architecture , best in class commitment

2377
01:48:40,814 --> 01:48:42,814
to

2378
01:48:43,817 --> 01:48:45,817
our community

2379
01:48:45,819 --> 01:48:46,820
and attracting the best in class users

2380
01:48:46,820 --> 01:48:48,820
and occupiers.

2381
01:48:49,823 --> 01:48:52,223
>> As I shift to

2382
01:48:52,826 --> 01:48:53,827
the project site plan , what

2383
01:48:53,827 --> 01:48:55,829
I would like to really emphasize is that

2384
01:48:55,829 --> 01:48:57,829
this represents roughly

2385
01:48:57,831 --> 01:48:58,799
tens of thousands of hours and the

2386
01:48:58,799 --> 01:49:01,799
work of many people that

2387
01:49:01,802 --> 01:49:03,802
are some

2388
01:49:03,804 --> 01:49:06,807
represented in the room and likewise, staff.

2389
01:49:06,807 --> 01:49:07,808
It is one where I would like to acknowledge

2390
01:49:07,808 --> 01:49:10,208
this was led by

2391
01:49:10,811 --> 01:49:12,811
my team

2392
01:49:13,814 --> 01:49:15,814
, our land-use counsel

2393
01:49:15,816 --> 01:49:16,817
, Chesapeake strategies and others

2394
01:49:16,817 --> 01:49:19,217
that did a very

2395
01:49:19,820 --> 01:49:21,820
robust community outreach

2396
01:49:22,823 --> 01:49:24,825
, really an exceptional job. I also want

2397
01:49:24,825 --> 01:49:25,826
to note that we had this project.

2398
01:49:25,826 --> 01:49:27,826
Reviewed

2399
01:49:27,828 --> 01:49:30,831
by two firms that are really global leaders

2400
01:49:30,831 --> 01:49:31,799
in life sciences. They advised companies

2401
01:49:31,799 --> 01:49:33,799
that

2402
01:49:34,802 --> 01:49:35,803
are going into

2403
01:49:35,803 --> 01:49:37,805
our project. What you see today represents

2404
01:49:37,805 --> 01:49:39,805
their input

2405
01:49:39,807 --> 01:49:40,808
and feedback and these are folks that

2406
01:49:40,808 --> 01:49:42,808
are advising

2407
01:49:43,811 --> 01:49:45,811
major pharmaceutical and

2408
01:49:46,814 --> 01:49:47,815
poly science companies.

2409
01:49:47,815 --> 01:49:49,817
This plan is very informed and detailed

2410
01:49:49,817 --> 01:49:51,817
and is

2411
01:49:52,820 --> 01:49:53,821
very executable. >>

2412
01:49:53,821 --> 01:49:55,823
I will go briefly through this, but

2413
01:49:55,823 --> 01:49:57,823
the location

2414
01:50:01,829 --> 01:50:03,829
was explained

2415
01:50:03,831 --> 01:50:07,801
very good by Tamika. It is an extraordinary site.

2416
01:50:07,801 --> 01:50:10,804
It interconnects with the great Seneca

2417
01:50:10,804 --> 01:50:13,807
highway. This will be the premier,

2418
01:50:13,807 --> 01:50:16,810
number one site. As noted, to

2419
01:50:16,810 --> 01:50:19,813
the north of Muddy Branch Road

2420
01:50:19,813 --> 01:50:21,813
and to

2421
01:50:21,815 --> 01:50:22,816
the right and Belward Campus Drive

2422
01:50:22,816 --> 01:50:24,816
to

2423
01:50:24,818 --> 01:50:25,819
the north. We worked very closely

2424
01:50:25,819 --> 01:50:26,820
with our partners at

2425
01:50:26,820 --> 01:50:30,420
Hopkins to really integrate the preservation

2426
01:50:30,824 --> 01:50:31,825
of the farm and all of these other elements

2427
01:50:31,825 --> 01:50:34,225
to make sure this

2428
01:50:34,862 --> 01:50:37,262
site represents true world-class

2429
01:50:37,865 --> 01:50:38,832
planning. As to

2430
01:50:38,832 --> 01:50:41,832
make emphasized , the first phase

2431
01:50:42,836 --> 01:50:43,837
is roughly 757,000 square feet. It

2432
01:50:43,837 --> 01:50:45,837
embraces

2433
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,843
the sites natural features and topography.

2434
01:50:49,843 --> 01:50:51,843
The campus will

2435
01:50:52,846 --> 01:50:54,848
be fined by a strong urban edge and likewise

2436
01:50:54,848 --> 01:50:58,448
, surrounded and focused on the sites

2437
01:50:58,852 --> 01:50:59,853
qualities. We do

2438
01:50:59,853 --> 01:51:01,855
acknowledge the garage is important.

2439
01:51:01,855 --> 01:51:04,255
These garages are important.

2440
01:51:04,858 --> 01:51:05,859
They are defining to this

2441
01:51:05,859 --> 01:51:07,861
site long-term. We are going to do

2442
01:51:07,861 --> 01:51:09,863
her best to ensure

2443
01:51:09,863 --> 01:51:13,800
that we do heavy landscaping and forestry buffers

2444
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,803
and all the plantings to enable them

2445
01:51:16,803 --> 01:51:19,806
to work naturally into the site. More important,

2446
01:51:19,806 --> 01:51:21,808
the topography of the

2447
01:51:21,808 --> 01:51:22,809
site has a certain natural slope to it.

2448
01:51:22,809 --> 01:51:24,809
So,

2449
01:51:24,811 --> 01:51:25,812
we are able to talk these garages

2450
01:51:25,812 --> 01:51:28,815
deeper into the site and bring

2451
01:51:28,815 --> 01:51:31,818
them into a lower level so they are

2452
01:51:31,818 --> 01:51:34,818
not defined by many garages

2453
01:51:34,821 --> 01:51:37,221
like other urban's aces.

2454
01:51:38,825 --> 01:51:40,827
While not applicable for today, one

2455
01:51:40,827 --> 01:51:42,829
of the things I am most excited about is we

2456
01:51:42,829 --> 01:51:43,830
at Trammell Crow here consistently

2457
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:45,830
from every

2458
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,800
world leading life sciences company

2459
01:51:49,803 --> 01:51:51,803
and that is,

2460
01:51:51,805 --> 01:51:52,806
a great project today, but what is

2461
01:51:52,806 --> 01:51:55,806
the next phase? Life sciences

2462
01:51:55,809 --> 01:51:57,811
and biotherapeutics is one of the most

2463
01:51:57,811 --> 01:51:58,812
explosive industries and it needs

2464
01:51:58,812 --> 01:52:01,212
gross. It is very

2465
01:52:01,815 --> 01:52:02,816
disruptive to up

2466
01:52:02,816 --> 01:52:06,416
and move out to another location.

2467
01:52:09,823 --> 01:52:10,824
So, what makes this site truly world-class

2468
01:52:10,824 --> 01:52:11,825
is the ability to grow in place. That

2469
01:52:11,825 --> 01:52:12,826
is why we are emphasizing this plan.

2470
01:52:12,826 --> 01:52:13,827
It enables us to work with occupiers

2471
01:52:13,827 --> 01:52:15,827
to say, you

2472
01:52:16,830 --> 01:52:19,800
will be in one building

2473
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:20,801
and as you have new intellectual property come to life

2474
01:52:20,801 --> 01:52:22,803
there is another opportunity for you five

2475
01:52:22,803 --> 01:52:24,805
years down the road. That is why this site is

2476
01:52:24,805 --> 01:52:28,809
so defining and so important to this community.

2477
01:52:28,809 --> 01:52:30,811
>> The Muddy Branch Park

2478
01:52:30,811 --> 01:52:31,845
has been a really exciting element

2479
01:52:31,845 --> 01:52:33,845
of this.

2480
01:52:33,847 --> 01:52:37,447
For us, it interconnects the park

2481
01:52:37,851 --> 01:52:40,854
with the community. Likewise, it allows for

2482
01:52:40,854 --> 01:52:43,857
activation with our users and our occupiers in

2483
01:52:43,857 --> 01:52:45,859
all elements. What I like most about this design

2484
01:52:45,859 --> 01:52:49,459
and again , it is all attributable

2485
01:52:49,863 --> 01:52:52,833
to the team that there is

2486
01:52:52,833 --> 01:52:54,833
a serious

2487
01:52:54,835 --> 01:52:55,836
interconnected pathways leading to

2488
01:52:55,836 --> 01:52:57,838
small destinations and large destinations and it

2489
01:52:57,838 --> 01:53:02,380
can be activated seven days a week.

2490
01:53:04,845 --> 01:53:06,845
>> As

2491
01:53:06,847 --> 01:53:07,848
we wrap up I would like to focus a

2492
01:53:07,848 --> 01:53:09,848
bit on conditions

2493
01:53:10,851 --> 01:53:13,854
for discussion. As you can see this

2494
01:53:13,854 --> 01:53:16,857
is a birds eye view of the site that is fully built out

2495
01:53:16,857 --> 01:53:19,860
. It is one that acknowledges our

2496
01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:21,860
vision and our

2497
01:53:21,862 --> 01:53:22,863
thoughtful and careful approach to

2498
01:53:22,863 --> 01:53:24,863
being very respectful

2499
01:53:26,833 --> 01:53:27,834
to this site. With that I

2500
01:53:27,834 --> 01:53:29,836
will move to the conditions for discussion

2501
01:53:29,836 --> 01:53:31,836
and

2502
01:53:31,838 --> 01:53:32,839
spend a bit of time on this. The first

2503
01:53:32,839 --> 01:53:34,839
one

2504
01:53:35,842 --> 01:53:37,844
begins with the park

2505
01:53:37,844 --> 01:53:38,845
, including a rectangular athletic

2506
01:53:38,845 --> 01:53:40,845
field with

2507
01:53:41,848 --> 01:53:42,849
a minimum

2508
01:53:42,849 --> 01:53:45,849
dimension of 140 feet by 230 feet.

2509
01:53:47,854 --> 01:53:50,857
Currently designed , we have an 87 foot

2510
01:53:50,857 --> 01:53:52,857
by 220 foot the

2511
01:53:53,860 --> 01:53:56,860
purpose athletic field. We just

2512
01:53:56,863 --> 01:53:59,263
cannot accommodate a 140 feet

2513
01:53:59,833 --> 01:54:02,233
by 230 feet field within

2514
01:54:02,836 --> 01:54:05,836
that limited site and do

2515
01:54:05,839 --> 01:54:07,839
so safely

2516
01:54:07,841 --> 01:54:11,441
and be accessible to the community.

2517
01:54:11,845 --> 01:54:13,847
My team can address any of the

2518
01:54:13,847 --> 01:54:16,847
technical questions. We are proposing

2519
01:54:17,851 --> 01:54:18,852
that the athletic field

2520
01:54:18,852 --> 01:54:20,854
, the multipurpose athletic field

2521
01:54:20,854 --> 01:54:22,854
be approximately 85 feet

2522
01:54:23,857 --> 01:54:25,857
by 220 feet . The

2523
01:54:26,860 --> 01:54:28,860
second condition, 9 D

2524
01:54:29,863 --> 01:54:31,865
deals with the phasing

2525
01:54:31,865 --> 01:54:32,866
of roads and road infrastructure.

2526
01:54:32,866 --> 01:54:34,866
This

2527
01:54:35,869 --> 01:54:37,869
is complex.

2528
01:54:37,871 --> 01:54:41,875
I certainly acknowledge, as you can see from the site this represents

2529
01:54:41,875 --> 01:54:43,875
a multibillion-dollar project .

2530
01:54:43,877 --> 01:54:47,881
I would like to suggest that for us

2531
01:54:47,881 --> 01:54:50,281
, it is very important

2532
01:54:50,884 --> 01:54:52,886
that we build Belward Campus Drive

2533
01:54:52,886 --> 01:54:56,890
, but as the roads evolve that support

2534
01:54:56,890 --> 01:54:57,891
the vertical improvements

2535
01:54:57,891 --> 01:55:02,910
that they evolve in a phased approach.

2536
01:55:02,896 --> 01:55:03,897
It is one for us

2537
01:55:03,897 --> 01:55:05,866
where there is a clear commitment

2538
01:55:05,866 --> 01:55:06,867
to build these roads

2539
01:55:06,867 --> 01:55:08,869
, but it is also acknowledging that

2540
01:55:08,869 --> 01:55:11,869
as we layer in users

2541
01:55:11,872 --> 01:55:13,872
and occupiers

2542
01:55:13,874 --> 01:55:14,875
and the utilities and infrastructure

2543
01:55:14,875 --> 01:55:16,875
and

2544
01:55:17,878 --> 01:55:19,878
the complexity related

2545
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:20,881
to these users and occupiers that

2546
01:55:20,881 --> 01:55:23,881
we have that flexibility to

2547
01:55:23,884 --> 01:55:26,887
do so as it evolves. One thing about

2548
01:55:26,887 --> 01:55:28,889
life sciences again, I work on this throughout

2549
01:55:28,889 --> 01:55:32,893
the U.S. , it is all full of unknowns. It

2550
01:55:32,893 --> 01:55:34,893
is one

2551
01:55:34,895 --> 01:55:35,896
we have to embrace a vision and plan, but

2552
01:55:35,896 --> 01:55:36,897
we have to

2553
01:55:36,897 --> 01:55:38,865
have the ability to layer in utility

2554
01:55:38,865 --> 01:55:41,868
infrastructure and roads and access based

2555
01:55:41,868 --> 01:55:43,870
on the unique users and their

2556
01:55:43,870 --> 01:55:44,871
dynamic needs. The third condition

2557
01:55:44,871 --> 01:55:46,871
for

2558
01:55:47,874 --> 01:55:49,874
discussion is

2559
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:54,881
the one that deals with the

2560
01:55:54,881 --> 01:55:55,882
parking garage and there was a lot of discussion

2561
01:55:55,882 --> 01:55:56,883
around this. We will have a response relative

2562
01:55:56,883 --> 01:55:58,883
to

2563
01:55:59,886 --> 01:56:01,886
the height .

2564
01:56:02,889 --> 01:56:05,289
This represents thousands of

2565
01:56:05,892 --> 01:56:07,894
hours of work and these garages are tucked

2566
01:56:07,894 --> 01:56:12,694
down into the lower parts of the site.

2567
01:56:15,869 --> 01:56:17,871
Visually, they are roughly two stories. They are

2568
01:56:17,871 --> 01:56:19,873
long and sloping. One of the two garages would

2569
01:56:19,873 --> 01:56:22,873
be covered with photographic panels.

2570
01:56:22,876 --> 01:56:25,879
One thing we strongly believe in is that

2571
01:56:25,879 --> 01:56:26,880
we have to have the flexibility to

2572
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:28,880
really use

2573
01:56:29,916 --> 01:56:31,916
natural landscaping

2574
01:56:32,919 --> 01:56:35,919
for portions of these garages

2575
01:56:35,922 --> 01:56:37,922
, versus structural elements

2576
01:56:38,925 --> 01:56:40,925
. If you can

2577
01:56:41,928 --> 01:56:43,928
understand the site

2578
01:56:44,931 --> 01:56:47,901
, it somewhat falls in and we

2579
01:56:47,901 --> 01:56:48,902
are doing a dense amount

2580
01:56:48,902 --> 01:56:50,904
of planning surrounding these garages.

2581
01:56:50,904 --> 01:56:53,904
We believe it is superfluous

2582
01:56:53,907 --> 01:56:55,909
to then hide that with

2583
01:56:55,909 --> 01:56:56,910
an amount of architectural finishes

2584
01:56:56,910 --> 01:56:58,910
and other

2585
01:56:59,913 --> 01:57:02,313
types of screening. We

2586
01:57:02,916 --> 01:57:04,916
are advocating for

2587
01:57:05,919 --> 01:57:07,919
increasing plantings

2588
01:57:08,922 --> 01:57:11,925
along the eastern façade of the garage

2589
01:57:11,925 --> 01:57:13,925
to provide

2590
01:57:13,927 --> 01:57:14,928
50% of the screening. I will conclude with

2591
01:57:14,928 --> 01:57:16,928
my testimony

2592
01:57:16,930 --> 01:57:19,900
and thanked the chair and the commissioners

2593
01:57:19,900 --> 01:57:20,901
and again, thank you to the staff.

2594
01:57:20,901 --> 01:57:22,901
I

2595
01:57:22,903 --> 01:57:27,103
appreciate it. >> Thank you for your testimony.

2596
01:57:28,909 --> 01:57:29,910
>> Good morning, Mr. chair and commissioners.

2597
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:31,910
My

2598
01:57:32,913 --> 01:57:35,916
name is Phil. I am with Miles

2599
01:57:35,916 --> 01:57:37,916
and Stockbridge.

2600
01:57:38,919 --> 01:57:41,919
This is my colleague, Barbara.

2601
01:57:41,922 --> 01:57:44,922
Our firm represents Johns Hopkins

2602
01:57:44,925 --> 01:57:46,925
. As was noted

2603
01:57:47,928 --> 01:57:50,328
by Tamika very clearly,

2604
01:57:50,931 --> 01:57:53,331
before you today are

2605
01:57:53,900 --> 01:57:56,903
two applications. John's Hopkins is the application

2606
01:57:56,903 --> 01:58:00,503
for the final forest conservation plan.

2607
01:58:01,908 --> 01:58:04,911
We were required to get a plan that

2608
01:58:04,911 --> 01:58:07,911
covered the entire 107 acre site.

2609
01:58:08,915 --> 01:58:09,916
The purpose of amending that is to reflect

2610
01:58:09,916 --> 01:58:11,918
the development that you see today

2611
01:58:11,918 --> 01:58:14,918
that is proposed north of

2612
01:58:14,921 --> 01:58:16,923
Belward Campus Drive. Our

2613
01:58:16,923 --> 01:58:17,924
team has reviewed the conditions of approval

2614
01:58:17,924 --> 01:58:19,924
for the final

2615
01:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,929
conservation plan is recommended by staff

2616
01:58:22,929 --> 01:58:23,930
and they are acceptable to Johns Hopkins. I

2617
01:58:23,930 --> 01:58:25,930
also wanted

2618
01:58:29,936 --> 01:58:30,937
to take a moment to thank

2619
01:58:30,937 --> 01:58:31,938
staff, and especially Tamika for their excellent

2620
01:58:31,938 --> 01:58:32,939
work on this case. Thank you very

2621
01:58:32,939 --> 01:58:34,939
much. >>

2622
01:58:35,942 --> 01:58:37,942
Anybody else ? Okay.

2623
01:58:38,945 --> 01:58:41,345
I will take comments

2624
01:58:41,948 --> 01:58:44,951
or questions from the board. Go ahead.

2625
01:58:44,951 --> 01:58:46,951
>>

2626
01:58:50,957 --> 01:58:52,959
Just to finish up some

2627
01:58:52,959 --> 01:58:53,960
of the questions I had before, what

2628
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,360
is the height of

2629
01:58:56,963 --> 01:58:58,932
the garage? If you are going to

2630
01:58:58,932 --> 01:59:02,936
put plants to cover the ground floor

2631
01:59:02,936 --> 01:59:05,939
, it will still be some visible

2632
01:59:05,939 --> 01:59:07,941
. I still don't know how

2633
01:59:07,941 --> 01:59:08,942
it works. I do appreciate what you are

2634
01:59:08,942 --> 01:59:10,942
talking about, but

2635
01:59:11,945 --> 01:59:14,948
I do not know if the ground

2636
01:59:14,948 --> 01:59:16,948
planting

2637
01:59:20,954 --> 01:59:22,954
will cover the

2638
01:59:23,957 --> 01:59:26,957
higher floors. >> My name is

2639
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:29,963
Bill Brewer with Trammell Crow Company .

2640
01:59:29,963 --> 01:59:32,932
The garages vary in height from three

2641
01:59:32,932 --> 01:59:34,934
to four stories with

2642
01:59:34,934 --> 01:59:38,534
three stories visible depending on the

2643
01:59:38,938 --> 01:59:41,941
perspective of pedestrian. Are specific ask

2644
01:59:41,941 --> 01:59:43,941
for approval only

2645
01:59:44,944 --> 01:59:47,947
relates to the Eastern façade of garage two

2646
01:59:47,947 --> 01:59:50,947
. The reason for that is

2647
01:59:50,950 --> 01:59:52,952
there are already dense,

2648
01:59:52,952 --> 01:59:53,953
mature trees that will further enhance

2649
01:59:53,953 --> 01:59:55,953
the landscaping.

2650
01:59:56,956 --> 01:59:58,956
That will obscure

2651
01:59:59,959 --> 02:00:01,959
all

2652
02:00:01,961 --> 02:00:02,962
of the first floor of the garage,

2653
02:00:02,962 --> 02:00:04,964
which is where we have the condition

2654
02:00:04,964 --> 02:00:06,933
to provide architectural screening.

2655
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:08,933
In

2656
02:00:09,936 --> 02:00:11,938
that instance on that façade it

2657
02:00:11,938 --> 02:00:12,939
is replicated and we would rather

2658
02:00:12,939 --> 02:00:13,940
work to enhance

2659
02:00:13,940 --> 02:00:16,940
those plantings rather than provide

2660
02:00:17,944 --> 02:00:18,945
the structural element behind. >>

2661
02:00:18,945 --> 02:00:19,946
So that is just for

2662
02:00:19,946 --> 02:00:21,948
that area. The other question I have,

2663
02:00:21,948 --> 02:00:23,948
for the

2664
02:00:24,918 --> 02:00:26,918
park,

2665
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:27,954
I know the park department needs a larger

2666
02:00:27,954 --> 02:00:29,954
soccer field

2667
02:00:30,957 --> 02:00:32,957
, but whatever can

2668
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,963
fit their , as large as possible.

2669
02:00:36,963 --> 02:00:39,933
It would be really useful

2670
02:00:39,933 --> 02:00:42,333
for the people in

2671
02:00:42,936 --> 02:00:44,938
that area. We are ready

2672
02:00:44,938 --> 02:00:46,940
in a shortage of large rectangular

2673
02:00:46,940 --> 02:00:48,942
fields. Does the park also include

2674
02:00:48,942 --> 02:00:50,942
a playground

2675
02:00:51,945 --> 02:00:53,945
and bathrooms?

2676
02:00:54,948 --> 02:00:56,948
>>

2677
02:00:57,951 --> 02:01:00,954
I will answer that in two parts.

2678
02:01:00,954 --> 02:01:01,955
We wanted to highlight

2679
02:01:01,955 --> 02:01:03,957
the size of the field because it relates to

2680
02:01:03,957 --> 02:01:06,960
the plans that have been presented here

2681
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:07,961
, today and to the community. If

2682
02:01:07,961 --> 02:01:09,963
the rectangular field is included

2683
02:01:09,963 --> 02:01:11,963
at that size

2684
02:01:11,965 --> 02:01:12,932
and located in the northern portion

2685
02:01:12,932 --> 02:01:14,932
of

2686
02:01:15,935 --> 02:01:16,936
the park, the parks design path would change and

2687
02:01:16,936 --> 02:01:18,938
that is why we requested the modification to

2688
02:01:18,938 --> 02:01:20,938
the size

2689
02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:21,941
to keep it consistent with what has

2690
02:01:21,941 --> 02:01:23,941
been submitted. Regarding

2691
02:01:24,944 --> 02:01:25,945
the improvements in the park, itself

2692
02:01:25,945 --> 02:01:27,947
we have a variety of different areas

2693
02:01:27,947 --> 02:01:29,947
for

2694
02:01:30,950 --> 02:01:33,950
seating, playing for different ages

2695
02:01:33,953 --> 02:01:36,953
and uses. We do not

2696
02:01:36,956 --> 02:01:39,356
have any bathrooms planned. >>

2697
02:01:39,959 --> 02:01:40,960
There are no bathrooms? >> No.

2698
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:42,962
Not in the parks, themselves. >> Is

2699
02:01:42,962 --> 02:01:43,963
there in

2700
02:01:43,963 --> 02:01:45,932
the commercial area that people could

2701
02:01:45,932 --> 02:01:47,932
be directed?

2702
02:01:48,935 --> 02:01:50,937
>> Yes, there would be bathrooms in the

2703
02:01:50,937 --> 02:01:54,537
commercial buildings and in the planned

2704
02:01:54,941 --> 02:01:55,942
retail. >> I think

2705
02:01:55,942 --> 02:01:57,944
your question is whether or not the

2706
02:01:57,944 --> 02:01:59,946
commercial buildings and retail areas

2707
02:01:59,946 --> 02:02:01,948
will allow for nonemployees to use

2708
02:02:01,948 --> 02:02:03,950
these facilities while they are using

2709
02:02:03,950 --> 02:02:04,951
the park

2710
02:02:04,951 --> 02:02:07,951
. Is that your interest? >> Correct.

2711
02:02:07,954 --> 02:02:09,956
I read that the commercial is available for

2712
02:02:09,956 --> 02:02:11,956
the public.

2713
02:02:12,959 --> 02:02:14,961
That is one of the

2714
02:02:14,961 --> 02:02:16,963
public areas. So, if there is a bathroom there

2715
02:02:16,963 --> 02:02:18,932
hopefully, it will be available for the

2716
02:02:18,932 --> 02:02:21,932
public. >> Will it be available

2717
02:02:21,935 --> 02:02:24,935
for the public? >> Yes sir.

2718
02:02:24,938 --> 02:02:26,938
>> In the

2719
02:02:26,973 --> 02:02:27,974
office buildings , the bathrooms that

2720
02:02:27,974 --> 02:02:29,974
are in

2721
02:02:30,977 --> 02:02:32,979
the public areas of the office buildings,

2722
02:02:32,979 --> 02:02:33,980
those would be usable by the public

2723
02:02:33,980 --> 02:02:35,980
based

2724
02:02:36,983 --> 02:02:39,383
on building rules. The

2725
02:02:39,986 --> 02:02:40,987
retail would be public

2726
02:02:40,987 --> 02:02:42,989
assessable but is privately owned

2727
02:02:42,989 --> 02:02:43,990
and controlled.

2728
02:02:43,990 --> 02:02:47,590
So, everyone would need to follow

2729
02:02:47,994 --> 02:02:50,994
the requirements. >> During the weekend

2730
02:02:51,998 --> 02:02:52,966
when the park is more than

2731
02:02:52,966 --> 02:02:54,968
likely to be used by community members

2732
02:02:54,968 --> 02:02:56,968
, will

2733
02:02:57,971 --> 02:02:58,972
the bathrooms be accessible

2734
02:02:58,972 --> 02:03:00,974
to those community members utilizing

2735
02:03:00,974 --> 02:03:02,974
the park? >>

2736
02:03:03,977 --> 02:03:06,977
To the extent the buildings

2737
02:03:06,980 --> 02:03:08,980
are open, staffed

2738
02:03:09,983 --> 02:03:11,985
--I guess what you are driving for is a

2739
02:03:11,985 --> 02:03:14,988
specific answer and we can't give you

2740
02:03:14,988 --> 02:03:15,989
the specifics on tenant access. >>

2741
02:03:15,989 --> 02:03:17,989
I am

2742
02:03:17,991 --> 02:03:20,994
Kerry Sanders. We can add a condition

2743
02:03:20,994 --> 02:03:21,995
that speaks to what the board is asking

2744
02:03:21,995 --> 02:03:24,395
for. If you give

2745
02:03:24,998 --> 02:03:27,967
us a moment we will write something up and we will read

2746
02:03:27,967 --> 02:03:30,970
it out to you. >> Thank you. That

2747
02:03:30,970 --> 02:03:32,970
is really helpful.

2748
02:03:33,973 --> 02:03:35,973
>>

2749
02:03:35,975 --> 02:03:36,976
This is a beautiful project and when

2750
02:03:36,976 --> 02:03:38,976
it is done

2751
02:03:39,979 --> 02:03:40,980
it will probably win

2752
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:42,982
some kind of award. I really like it.

2753
02:03:42,982 --> 02:03:45,982
It is gorgeous. One of

2754
02:03:45,985 --> 02:03:48,988
the things about the public use is

2755
02:03:48,988 --> 02:03:50,990
it is actually creating

2756
02:03:50,990 --> 02:03:51,991
a public use that isn't there now.

2757
02:03:51,991 --> 02:03:53,991
So, that

2758
02:03:54,994 --> 02:03:56,994
is really attractive.

2759
02:03:56,996 --> 02:03:59,966
I do have a concern with regards to the

2760
02:03:59,966 --> 02:04:00,967
Mission Hills preserve and the community

2761
02:04:00,967 --> 02:04:02,967
that

2762
02:04:03,970 --> 02:04:06,973
is there now. When the construction begins there

2763
02:04:06,973 --> 02:04:09,976
will be dust and noise . It seems

2764
02:04:09,976 --> 02:04:12,979
as though as part of the initial plan

2765
02:04:12,979 --> 02:04:14,981
for the Mission Hills preserve

2766
02:04:14,981 --> 02:04:15,982
was to be planted prior to the construction.

2767
02:04:15,982 --> 02:04:17,982
I was wondering

2768
02:04:17,984 --> 02:04:18,985
why it wouldn't be done prior to that

2769
02:04:18,985 --> 02:04:20,985
construction now?

2770
02:04:21,988 --> 02:04:24,388
Can you answer that?

2771
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,240
>>

2772
02:04:28,270 --> 02:04:31,270
Certainly. It is our intent

2773
02:04:31,300 --> 02:04:34,000
to honor what has been approved

2774
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:36,000
and passed

2775
02:04:37,300 --> 02:04:40,603
and plant the Mission Hills buffer.

2776
02:04:43,900 --> 02:04:46,120
There is no if, and , or butts about that.

2777
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:47,130
It is my understanding

2778
02:04:47,130 --> 02:04:48,140
that there are two planting cycles

2779
02:04:48,140 --> 02:04:49,150
we have to accomplish that in and

2780
02:04:49,150 --> 02:04:51,150
we tend to

2781
02:04:51,170 --> 02:04:52,180
abide by that . From our perspective

2782
02:04:52,180 --> 02:04:54,180
this is

2783
02:04:57,230 --> 02:04:58,240
simply how it works in the overall schedule of

2784
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,240
timing. >> If

2785
02:05:01,270 --> 02:05:03,270
I may,

2786
02:05:06,999 --> 02:05:08,000
on the question

2787
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:09,100
of the planting of the Mission Hills

2788
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:10,300
buffer, there is a condition that

2789
02:05:10,300 --> 02:05:11,300
speaks to this in the forest

2790
02:05:11,300 --> 02:05:12,400
conservation plans condition. It is

2791
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:13,500
number eight and that language requires

2792
02:05:13,500 --> 02:05:15,500
the forced

2793
02:05:15,700 --> 02:05:16,800
landings within the buffer within

2794
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,120
two planting seasons of the first sediment

2795
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:20,120
control permit for the

2796
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,140
development. I just want to point

2797
02:05:22,140 --> 02:05:24,414
out that that condition

2798
02:05:25,170 --> 02:05:26,180
also appears in the John's

2799
02:05:26,180 --> 02:05:28,210
Hopkins University medical office building

2800
02:05:28,210 --> 02:05:30,210
site plan and

2801
02:05:31,230 --> 02:05:33,250
in the preliminary plan.

2802
02:05:33,250 --> 02:05:34,260
So really what has happened is, the

2803
02:05:34,260 --> 02:05:37,300
condition has been that way through

2804
02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:39,999
the history of the site and will require that lighting

2805
02:05:39,999 --> 02:05:41,999
to occur with

2806
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,500
the sediment control permits. It is being

2807
02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:47,600
pulled into the site plan

2808
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:49,800
so it also applies here. So, whichever

2809
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:50,900
happens first ,

2810
02:05:50,900 --> 02:05:52,110
as soon as the sediment control permit

2811
02:05:52,110 --> 02:05:54,130
goes in , even if it is

2812
02:05:54,130 --> 02:05:55,140
for the northern portion of the site,

2813
02:05:55,140 --> 02:05:58,140
it will initiate that planting

2814
02:05:58,170 --> 02:06:00,190
cycle. We think that is

2815
02:06:00,190 --> 02:06:01,200
where we need to look for an answer to

2816
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,200
that. >> I

2817
02:06:03,220 --> 02:06:04,230
just want to piggyback on that. Philip Humble

2818
02:06:04,230 --> 02:06:06,230
, for

2819
02:06:07,260 --> 02:06:10,290
the record. I wanted to emphasize

2820
02:06:10,290 --> 02:06:12,999
a point that was made by Ms. Graham earlier.

2821
02:06:12,999 --> 02:06:15,100
There is a condition in

2822
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:18,400
the site plan for the medical office building

2823
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:19,500
that the Mission Hills buffer need to

2824
02:06:19,500 --> 02:06:22,605
be planted within two planting seasons

2825
02:06:24,430 --> 02:06:25,440
following the release of the first

2826
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:27,440
sediment control permit.

2827
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:30,470
What

2828
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:33,520
is being proposed here is

2829
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:34,530
the first sediment control for any development

2830
02:06:34,530 --> 02:06:36,453
on the site. So

2831
02:06:40,590 --> 02:06:41,600
, if the condition was unchanged it would still

2832
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:42,610
be tied to the development of the

2833
02:06:42,610 --> 02:06:43,620
medical office building, which may

2834
02:06:43,620 --> 02:06:45,640
or may not proceed

2835
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:46,320
first. With the condition being proposed

2836
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,350
by staff, no matter what developing comes

2837
02:06:49,350 --> 02:06:51,370
first, that will be the timing

2838
02:06:51,370 --> 02:06:52,380
for when the buffer gets planted.

2839
02:06:52,380 --> 02:06:55,380
I believe that is clear.

2840
02:06:55,410 --> 02:06:57,410
>> I like

2841
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,440
how you are going to

2842
02:07:01,470 --> 02:07:04,470
add bike lanes and sidewalks

2843
02:07:07,530 --> 02:07:10,560
and an athletic field. However, being

2844
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:11,570
a sporting man that I

2845
02:07:11,570 --> 02:07:13,590
am, the production of the athletic

2846
02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:16,620
field would not fit in the traditional

2847
02:07:16,620 --> 02:07:18,462
American sports. So, yes

2848
02:07:19,650 --> 02:07:22,340
the soccer field is 240 feet

2849
02:07:22,340 --> 02:07:24,340
by 165 feet.

2850
02:07:33,450 --> 02:07:34,460
A traditional football field is 360 feet by

2851
02:07:34,460 --> 02:07:35,470
160 feet. I know it is an athletic

2852
02:07:35,470 --> 02:07:36,480
field, but the visibility for it to

2853
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:37,490
be used in team sports is something

2854
02:07:37,490 --> 02:07:39,510
I think should be considered. The

2855
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:40,520
reduction of it would mean the likelihood

2856
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:41,530
of its use would be reduced. Again,

2857
02:07:41,530 --> 02:07:42,540
you are creating

2858
02:07:42,540 --> 02:07:43,550
the opportunity of public use that

2859
02:07:43,550 --> 02:07:44,560
isn't there currently. I would like

2860
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,560
to

2861
02:07:46,580 --> 02:07:50,620
see the size of the athletic field maintained

2862
02:07:50,620 --> 02:07:52,620
.

2863
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:55,320
You are providing

2864
02:07:56,350 --> 02:07:58,370
public use that isn't there.

2865
02:07:58,370 --> 02:08:00,390
But, what is the likelihood it would be

2866
02:08:00,390 --> 02:08:02,410
readily accessible to the community members

2867
02:08:02,410 --> 02:08:04,410
and not

2868
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:07,460
just employees , and how

2869
02:08:07,460 --> 02:08:11,500
can you ensure it community use? And,

2870
02:08:11,500 --> 02:08:14,530
who will pay for it ongoing?

2871
02:08:14,530 --> 02:08:16,530
>>

2872
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:17,560
I think the question with access of

2873
02:08:17,560 --> 02:08:19,560
the park

2874
02:08:19,580 --> 02:08:22,658
and its ongoing maintenance. One of

2875
02:08:23,950 --> 02:08:25,950
the conditions is

2876
02:08:25,970 --> 02:08:27,660
that for the privately developed and owned

2877
02:08:27,660 --> 02:08:29,680
publicly accessible areas of the campus

2878
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:32,680
, the owner of the campus

2879
02:08:32,710 --> 02:08:34,471
pays for the maintenance.

2880
02:08:35,740 --> 02:08:38,740
For access to the park

2881
02:08:38,770 --> 02:08:40,790
, we intend park hours

2882
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:44,830
that are basic daylight hours for it.

2883
02:08:44,830 --> 02:08:46,483
It would be unrestricted

2884
02:08:47,860 --> 02:08:48,870
so it would

2885
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:50,890
be used for both the neighborhood and

2886
02:08:50,890 --> 02:08:52,890
the employees.

2887
02:08:52,910 --> 02:08:53,920
And to circle back to your comment

2888
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:54,930
on the size of the

2889
02:08:54,930 --> 02:08:56,950
field, our primary purpose bringing

2890
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:58,950
that up

2891
02:08:58,970 --> 02:08:59,980
was how it related to the plans that

2892
02:08:59,980 --> 02:09:01,670
are been presented.

2893
02:09:01,670 --> 02:09:02,680
We could move the field to the southern

2894
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,680
portion of the

2895
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:09,750
park and provide it there in the sizes specified.

2896
02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:11,770
We had wanted to do it in the northern

2897
02:09:11,770 --> 02:09:13,790
portion so we could have a variety

2898
02:09:13,790 --> 02:09:14,800
of uses. The southern piece, because

2899
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:16,800
of its

2900
02:09:16,820 --> 02:09:17,830
size seemed to layout better for picnic

2901
02:09:17,830 --> 02:09:19,830
tables here and

2902
02:09:20,860 --> 02:09:23,890
a small plate area over here.

2903
02:09:23,890 --> 02:09:26,920
But, if we moved it down it will probably

2904
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:28,940
just be a large field. That

2905
02:09:28,940 --> 02:09:32,640
is generally come up to you all as to

2906
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,340
how you want to see it.

2907
02:09:35,340 --> 02:09:37,360
That is what brought it up and are concerned about the size. >> That

2908
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:38,370
is a very good point because I was

2909
02:09:38,370 --> 02:09:40,370
going to ask

2910
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:43,400
about the PUD.

2911
02:09:43,420 --> 02:09:45,440
I think this needs to be coordinated

2912
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,460
with the parks department to see what

2913
02:09:47,460 --> 02:09:49,460
their preference is.

2914
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:50,490
>> Thank you for the question. We

2915
02:09:50,490 --> 02:09:52,490
actually have

2916
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:54,530
been coordinated very closely with

2917
02:09:54,530 --> 02:09:56,550
the parks department on this issue.

2918
02:09:56,550 --> 02:09:59,580
We have had a number of

2919
02:09:59,580 --> 02:10:01,458
coordination meetings with them.

2920
02:10:04,630 --> 02:10:05,640
Just for a little bit of context,

2921
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:06,320
the parks department, ideally if this were to be

2922
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:07,330
turned over to them, they had initially

2923
02:10:07,330 --> 02:10:10,633
looked at something that was even

2924
02:10:11,370 --> 02:10:13,437
larger at 165 feet by 260.

2925
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:18,440
The dimensions you

2926
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:19,450
see in the conditions were pulled

2927
02:10:19,450 --> 02:10:20,460
from the applicant's submission. So,

2928
02:10:20,460 --> 02:10:21,470
an

2929
02:10:21,470 --> 02:10:23,820
earlier iteration of their programming of the

2930
02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:26,820
park they did show 140 by

2931
02:10:26,850 --> 02:10:28,850
230 feet

2932
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:30,890
. That

2933
02:10:30,890 --> 02:10:31,900
was why it was in the condition. It is

2934
02:10:31,900 --> 02:10:32,910
because we heard directly from parks

2935
02:10:32,910 --> 02:10:33,920
that they felt

2936
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:35,940
like that was the smallest dimension you

2937
02:10:35,940 --> 02:10:37,940
can go

2938
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:38,970
to actually, have a field you can

2939
02:10:38,970 --> 02:10:40,497
do something with. Otherwise,

2940
02:10:41,670 --> 02:10:43,690
we can't call it a field at that point. >> That

2941
02:10:43,690 --> 02:10:44,700
is correct. It would be good if you

2942
02:10:44,700 --> 02:10:46,700
could continue

2943
02:10:47,730 --> 02:10:50,760
to move those. Another question is in

2944
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:52,760
regard to

2945
02:10:52,780 --> 02:10:53,790
--and I appreciate it because we were working

2946
02:10:53,790 --> 02:10:55,790
towards having

2947
02:10:56,820 --> 02:10:57,830
avidly owned public

2948
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:59,850
parks. That would be very interesting

2949
02:10:59,850 --> 02:11:01,870
to see how it works out.

2950
02:11:01,870 --> 02:11:05,910
It would be a good pilot for the county.

2951
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:08,940
However, all of us know that after

2952
02:11:08,940 --> 02:11:11,940
10 years or 15 years or 20 years

2953
02:11:11,970 --> 02:11:13,970
something could happen .

2954
02:11:14,660 --> 02:11:15,670
The

2955
02:11:15,670 --> 02:11:17,690
park is not maintained as well as

2956
02:11:17,690 --> 02:11:19,710
we want it to be done. Is

2957
02:11:19,710 --> 02:11:20,720
there any kind of provisions as to

2958
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,720
the process at

2959
02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:26,780
that point, to make sure that the park

2960
02:11:26,780 --> 02:11:28,780
is being maintained

2961
02:11:29,810 --> 02:11:32,840
at the level of the parks

2962
02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:34,840
department in

2963
02:11:35,870 --> 02:11:37,870
the future ?

2964
02:11:38,900 --> 02:11:40,900
The

2965
02:11:41,930 --> 02:11:43,493
other question is , the

2966
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:46,496
18 acres of the forest

2967
02:11:47,660 --> 02:11:49,660
for mitigation

2968
02:11:50,690 --> 02:11:52,469
, is there any kind

2969
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:55,472
of provisions where they

2970
02:11:56,750 --> 02:11:58,770
would be put for use?

2971
02:11:58,770 --> 02:11:59,780
Will it be somewhere in the neighborhood for

2972
02:11:59,780 --> 02:12:01,780
people

2973
02:12:02,810 --> 02:12:04,810
to enjoy?

2974
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:07,840
>> Thank you .

2975
02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:11,900
For your first question , we do have our

2976
02:12:11,900 --> 02:12:14,900
standard maintenance and management agreement

2977
02:12:14,930 --> 02:12:15,940
.

2978
02:12:15,940 --> 02:12:17,960
But, we don't necessarily have a separate condition

2979
02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:20,650
that contemplates if the ownership turns

2980
02:12:20,650 --> 02:12:23,650
back over to the park.

2981
02:12:23,102 --> 02:12:26,105
That is not specifically included. In fact

2982
02:12:26,105 --> 02:12:28,505
, the ownership was specifically

2983
02:12:29,108 --> 02:12:34,508
identified in the master plan to be privately owned.

2984
02:12:35,114 --> 02:12:38,117
Throughout our discussions that is where

2985
02:12:38,117 --> 02:12:41,117
it landed. The forest bank

2986
02:12:41,120 --> 02:12:43,120
right now

2987
02:12:50,129 --> 02:12:52,129
--

2988
02:12:52,131 --> 02:12:53,980
by the time this moves forward we don't know

2989
02:12:53,980 --> 02:12:55,980
whether or not

2990
02:12:56,101 --> 02:12:58,101
it will be

2991
02:12:58,103 --> 02:12:59,104
in one bank or another, but that is

2992
02:12:59,104 --> 02:13:01,104
usually sorted

2993
02:13:02,107 --> 02:13:04,107
out with

2994
02:13:05,110 --> 02:13:07,110
Steve Finley's department

2995
02:13:08,113 --> 02:13:10,113
.

2996
02:13:11,116 --> 02:13:13,116
>> While Steve

2997
02:13:14,119 --> 02:13:17,122
is coming , this is Kerry Sanders.

2998
02:13:17,122 --> 02:13:20,722
On page 8 of the staff report

2999
02:13:23,128 --> 02:13:26,131
, condition 5 maintenance of public amenities, there is a condition that

3000
02:13:26,131 --> 02:13:28,100
requires the applicant to be responsible for maintaining

3001
02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:31,700
all public amenities to the site.

3002
02:13:32,104 --> 02:13:34,106
While we are looking at that condition we do have

3003
02:13:34,106 --> 02:13:35,107
proposed language that we would like

3004
02:13:35,107 --> 02:13:37,107
to add

3005
02:13:37,109 --> 02:13:38,110
to this section of the report to address

3006
02:13:38,110 --> 02:13:40,110
the restroom

3007
02:13:41,113 --> 02:13:43,115
question that came up.

3008
02:13:43,115 --> 02:13:44,116
I will ask Matt to read out that language

3009
02:13:44,116 --> 02:13:46,116
please. >>

3010
02:13:47,119 --> 02:13:50,119
Good morning. For the record ,

3011
02:13:50,122 --> 02:13:52,522
regulatory supervisory committee. We

3012
02:13:53,125 --> 02:13:55,525
would propose that site

3013
02:13:56,128 --> 02:13:59,131
plan condition 4, which is recreation facilities that

3014
02:13:59,131 --> 02:14:01,100
that covers the applicant

3015
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:04,100
providing the required recreation facilities

3016
02:14:04,103 --> 02:14:06,105
, including the trail and athletic

3017
02:14:06,105 --> 02:14:08,105
fields, the certified

3018
02:14:09,108 --> 02:14:12,108
site plan must also include

3019
02:14:12,111 --> 02:14:14,111
delineated location

3020
02:14:14,113 --> 02:14:16,115
for recreation facilities in a manner that

3021
02:14:16,115 --> 02:14:18,117
is clear and corresponds with the

3022
02:14:18,117 --> 02:14:20,117
maintenance agreements.

3023
02:14:20,152 --> 02:14:21,153
We would oppose a subset to that.

3024
02:14:21,153 --> 02:14:23,153
It

3025
02:14:23,155 --> 02:14:26,155
would be, publicly accessible restrooms

3026
02:14:27,159 --> 02:14:28,160
must be made available within the ground-floor

3027
02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:30,162
of the nearest office building or within

3028
02:14:30,162 --> 02:14:33,162
the retail pavilion has shown

3029
02:14:36,135 --> 02:14:37,136
in the certified site plan. We

3030
02:14:37,136 --> 02:14:38,137
have done similar approaches in places

3031
02:14:38,137 --> 02:14:39,138
like bike and roads where there are

3032
02:14:39,138 --> 02:14:41,538
publicly accessible roads and

3033
02:14:42,141 --> 02:14:44,141
bathrooms. >>

3034
02:14:45,144 --> 02:14:47,144
Commissioner Pinero? >>

3035
02:14:48,147 --> 02:14:50,149
Thank you Mr. chair.

3036
02:14:50,149 --> 02:14:53,152
Some of my questions have already been

3037
02:14:53,152 --> 02:14:54,153
asked by Commissioner Bartley and

3038
02:14:54,153 --> 02:14:56,153
Commissioner Pedoeem.

3039
02:14:57,156 --> 02:15:00,159
Let me follow up on that.

3040
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:03,159
My first question has to

3041
02:15:03,162 --> 02:15:06,165
do with public use. I want

3042
02:15:06,165 --> 02:15:09,134
to be sure that there will

3043
02:15:09,134 --> 02:15:12,134
be access to people outside

3044
02:15:12,137 --> 02:15:14,139
because we are talking about

3045
02:15:14,139 --> 02:15:16,539
parks, preserves , buffers, trails

3046
02:15:18,143 --> 02:15:20,143
, recreation areas , retail

3047
02:15:21,146 --> 02:15:24,146
open to outside community members.

3048
02:15:24,149 --> 02:15:25,150
One of my concerns

3049
02:15:25,150 --> 02:15:27,152
when I heard from the staff is that

3050
02:15:27,152 --> 02:15:29,152
there might be

3051
02:15:29,154 --> 02:15:32,157
--and they also heard from Mr. Fisher

3052
02:15:32,157 --> 02:15:33,158
asking for flexibility in the future

3053
02:15:33,158 --> 02:15:35,158
,

3054
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:38,163
that there might be some bio security issues

3055
02:15:38,163 --> 02:15:39,164
with the facilities. I totally agree

3056
02:15:39,164 --> 02:15:41,164
that we

3057
02:15:42,134 --> 02:15:45,134
need this and it is

3058
02:15:45,137 --> 02:15:47,537
really important project for

3059
02:15:48,140 --> 02:15:50,140
the county. But ,

3060
02:15:50,142 --> 02:15:51,143
in terms of bio security, I heard

3061
02:15:51,143 --> 02:15:53,143
from the

3062
02:15:54,146 --> 02:15:57,149
staff that in the urban green

3063
02:15:57,149 --> 02:16:00,152
the applicant said they may have to

3064
02:16:00,152 --> 02:16:02,154
build some invisible walls

3065
02:16:02,154 --> 02:16:03,155
, which I am not sure what that means. Obviously

3066
02:16:03,155 --> 02:16:05,155
,

3067
02:16:06,158 --> 02:16:07,159
those walls

3068
02:16:07,159 --> 02:16:09,161
are whatever you are envisioning the future

3069
02:16:09,161 --> 02:16:11,561
may limit the access

3070
02:16:13,132 --> 02:16:15,134
of the outside community to be able

3071
02:16:15,134 --> 02:16:17,534
to enjoy some of

3072
02:16:18,137 --> 02:16:20,537
the areas that you

3073
02:16:21,173 --> 02:16:24,173
are envisioning as public space.

3074
02:16:24,176 --> 02:16:27,179
Let me ask that question first and then

3075
02:16:27,179 --> 02:16:29,579
, I have questions about

3076
02:16:30,182 --> 02:16:32,182
circulation. >>

3077
02:16:42,194 --> 02:16:45,194
Erick Fisher, for the record.

3078
02:16:45,197 --> 02:16:47,166
Yes, there is the portion of the

3079
02:16:47,166 --> 02:16:51,170
campus that we propose and will require

3080
02:16:51,170 --> 02:16:54,170
having the ability to create

3081
02:16:54,173 --> 02:16:56,173
an invisible fence

3082
02:16:57,176 --> 02:17:00,176
or some form of security.

3083
02:17:00,179 --> 02:17:03,182
I share that this is imperative

3084
02:17:03,182 --> 02:17:05,184
in this sector and industry and

3085
02:17:05,184 --> 02:17:06,185
this is one of the things that will

3086
02:17:06,185 --> 02:17:08,185
make this project

3087
02:17:09,188 --> 02:17:12,188
so attractive to certain users

3088
02:17:15,194 --> 02:17:17,594
that simply requires security

3089
02:17:18,197 --> 02:17:20,197
and controlled access.

3090
02:17:21,166 --> 02:17:23,168
Trammell Crow is one of the most prolific

3091
02:17:23,168 --> 02:17:24,169
developers for the GSA. We have done

3092
02:17:24,169 --> 02:17:26,569
all types of secured

3093
02:17:27,172 --> 02:17:29,174
projects and frankly , to the general public

3094
02:17:29,174 --> 02:17:30,175
you would rarely ever know the site

3095
02:17:30,175 --> 02:17:32,175
is secured ,

3096
02:17:33,178 --> 02:17:35,180
other than a small gate or a series of

3097
02:17:35,180 --> 02:17:38,780
decorative fences. The intent here is

3098
02:17:39,184 --> 02:17:42,187
to preserve the urban green in front

3099
02:17:42,187 --> 02:17:44,187
of building A-2

3100
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:47,190
and A-1.

3101
02:17:47,192 --> 02:17:48,193
We are just looking to pull some level of

3102
02:17:48,193 --> 02:17:50,193
invisible fence that

3103
02:17:51,196 --> 02:17:54,166
closer to building A-2 and

3104
02:17:54,166 --> 02:17:56,168
A-1 in the event

3105
02:17:56,168 --> 02:17:57,169
that one confidential user we are

3106
02:17:57,169 --> 02:17:59,169
working with

3107
02:17:59,171 --> 02:18:00,172
will absolutely require a level controlled

3108
02:18:00,172 --> 02:18:02,172
access to

3109
02:18:02,174 --> 02:18:03,175
those buildings might need that. That

3110
02:18:03,175 --> 02:18:05,175
is one

3111
02:18:06,178 --> 02:18:09,181
where we need to offer that .

3112
02:18:09,181 --> 02:18:12,184
If we can't he will simply go to Raleigh, North Carolina.

3113
02:18:12,184 --> 02:18:14,184
>> Okay.

3114
02:18:15,187 --> 02:18:17,187
So,

3115
02:18:20,225 --> 02:18:25,250
will the site be gated in the future?

3116
02:18:30,202 --> 02:18:33,205
When you are asking for flexibility, you

3117
02:18:33,205 --> 02:18:36,208
are not envisioning any kind of

3118
02:18:36,208 --> 02:18:39,208
gating similar to what the

3119
02:18:39,211 --> 02:18:42,181
NIH or other health facilities

3120
02:18:42,181 --> 02:18:45,184
use? >> We certainly are. It is important

3121
02:18:45,184 --> 02:18:47,584
to because controlled access

3122
02:18:48,187 --> 02:18:51,190
can be done in a very smart and

3123
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:54,193
thoughtful way and it will entail some

3124
02:18:54,193 --> 02:18:55,194
form of gating at

3125
02:18:55,194 --> 02:18:58,794
a controlled access point for vehicles.

3126
02:19:00,165 --> 02:19:02,165
>> I see.

3127
02:19:02,167 --> 02:19:03,168
My other question has to be with the

3128
02:19:03,168 --> 02:19:05,168
Belward campus

3129
02:19:06,171 --> 02:19:08,171
Drive. You made

3130
02:19:09,174 --> 02:19:11,176
the point that you also want some flexibility

3131
02:19:11,176 --> 02:19:12,177
, Mr. Fisher because of construction.

3132
02:19:12,177 --> 02:19:14,177
I want

3133
02:19:14,179 --> 02:19:15,180
to be sure that right now you are

3134
02:19:15,180 --> 02:19:17,180
talking about two

3135
02:19:18,183 --> 02:19:21,783
access points on morning branch Drive

3136
02:19:24,189 --> 02:19:26,189
. Are

3137
02:19:26,191 --> 02:19:27,192
you envisioning that there will be

3138
02:19:27,192 --> 02:19:29,192
an access

3139
02:19:30,195 --> 02:19:32,195
connecting

3140
02:19:33,198 --> 02:19:35,598
to Key West Drive

3141
02:19:36,168 --> 02:19:38,168
?

3142
02:19:39,171 --> 02:19:41,171
Belward Campus Drive

3143
02:19:42,174 --> 02:19:45,177
will be an internal road. You

3144
02:19:45,177 --> 02:19:47,179
are not envisioning that the public can

3145
02:19:47,179 --> 02:19:48,180
use that road to cut through from

3146
02:19:48,180 --> 02:19:50,180
Key West

3147
02:19:51,183 --> 02:19:53,583
on two morning branch

3148
02:19:54,186 --> 02:19:57,186
. >> I might jump in here.

3149
02:19:57,189 --> 02:19:59,589
This is Bill Brewer.

3150
02:20:00,192 --> 02:20:03,195
I will first tackle the request

3151
02:20:03,195 --> 02:20:05,595
for flexibility. In section

3152
02:20:06,198 --> 02:20:08,166
nine of the conditions

3153
02:20:08,166 --> 02:20:09,167
there are a number of references to the

3154
02:20:09,167 --> 02:20:11,567
construction of the roads.

3155
02:20:14,172 --> 02:20:15,173
We thought it was a little confusing

3156
02:20:15,173 --> 02:20:17,209
given the total length

3157
02:20:17,209 --> 02:20:18,210
of time this development is taking

3158
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:20,210
to complete.

3159
02:20:21,213 --> 02:20:23,215
We wanted to provide a reference to the

3160
02:20:23,215 --> 02:20:24,216
phasing plan that was submitted with

3161
02:20:24,216 --> 02:20:26,216
the site plan

3162
02:20:27,219 --> 02:20:29,619
so that when we

3163
02:20:30,222 --> 02:20:32,222
have road sections

3164
02:20:33,225 --> 02:20:35,225
or applicable construction

3165
02:20:36,228 --> 02:20:39,231
that there was a drawing. It is

3166
02:20:39,231 --> 02:20:40,198
the situation where we think a drawing

3167
02:20:40,198 --> 02:20:42,598
is worth 1000 words in

3168
02:20:43,201 --> 02:20:44,202
terms of understanding the

3169
02:20:44,202 --> 02:20:46,204
time and what needs to be built out. As an

3170
02:20:46,204 --> 02:20:49,804
example, if we were to build

3171
02:20:52,210 --> 02:20:53,211
building

3172
02:20:53,211 --> 02:20:57,215
A-1, there is a condition to build

3173
02:20:57,215 --> 02:20:58,216
road A and that traverses most of

3174
02:20:58,216 --> 02:21:00,216
the sites. We

3175
02:21:00,218 --> 02:21:01,219
wouldn't want to build too much of

3176
02:21:01,219 --> 02:21:03,219
that and

3177
02:21:03,221 --> 02:21:06,221
disturb the current natural setting

3178
02:21:06,224 --> 02:21:10,228
or overbuild the site. That was the intent

3179
02:21:10,228 --> 02:21:13,231
behind the flexibility comment request. In

3180
02:21:13,231 --> 02:21:16,201
terms of public access , Belward Campus Drive

3181
02:21:16,201 --> 02:21:18,201
already exists

3182
02:21:19,204 --> 02:21:21,206
in the small segment of the right hand side of the plan you

3183
02:21:21,206 --> 02:21:22,207
are saying. We would continue that

3184
02:21:22,207 --> 02:21:24,607
on and connect it

3185
02:21:25,210 --> 02:21:26,211
to Muddy Branch Road.

3186
02:21:26,211 --> 02:21:30,215
We could also be building out road

3187
02:21:30,215 --> 02:21:31,216
B-4 as an initial phase of the project

3188
02:21:31,216 --> 02:21:33,216
and that would

3189
02:21:34,219 --> 02:21:36,219
connect to improve

3190
02:21:37,222 --> 02:21:38,223
site

3191
02:21:38,223 --> 02:21:40,225
access and the flow of traffic through

3192
02:21:40,225 --> 02:21:42,225
those major

3193
02:21:42,227 --> 02:21:45,227
public rights-of-way. Beyond that, the

3194
02:21:45,230 --> 02:21:46,231
internal road network is delivered

3195
02:21:46,231 --> 02:21:47,199
in

3196
02:21:47,199 --> 02:21:49,201
phases as laid out in the phase plan

3197
02:21:49,201 --> 02:21:52,201
and in reference to section 9.

3198
02:21:52,204 --> 02:21:53,205
>> Right now,

3199
02:21:53,205 --> 02:21:55,207
you are not envisioning connecting

3200
02:21:55,207 --> 02:21:57,207
Belward

3201
02:21:58,210 --> 02:22:01,213
Campus Drive on the east side

3202
02:22:01,213 --> 02:22:03,215
to Key West Drive? >> No ,

3203
02:22:03,215 --> 02:22:07,219
we are not. There is a small section of

3204
02:22:07,219 --> 02:22:09,221
county land that prevents

3205
02:22:09,221 --> 02:22:10,222
Belward Campus Drive from connecting

3206
02:22:10,222 --> 02:22:12,622
all the way through.

3207
02:22:13,225 --> 02:22:15,225
>> Okay. >>

3208
02:22:16,261 --> 02:22:19,264
It is like a 150 foot gap.

3209
02:22:19,264 --> 02:22:20,265
It is

3210
02:22:20,265 --> 02:22:22,234
easy to do if you want to, but we are

3211
02:22:22,234 --> 02:22:25,237
not doing it as part of the

3212
02:22:25,237 --> 02:22:26,238
site plan. >> On morning branch

3213
02:22:26,238 --> 02:22:28,240
Road, I heard there is going to be

3214
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:30,240
one

3215
02:22:30,242 --> 02:22:33,245
traffic light on Belward Campus Drive

3216
02:22:33,245 --> 02:22:37,249
on the entrance , will there be another one

3217
02:22:37,249 --> 02:22:39,249
on road

3218
02:22:40,252 --> 02:22:42,252
B-3?

3219
02:22:43,255 --> 02:22:45,255
>> There will be

3220
02:22:45,257 --> 02:22:46,258
two. One will be at the intersection

3221
02:22:46,258 --> 02:22:48,258
of Belward Campus

3222
02:22:49,261 --> 02:22:52,264
Drive and Muddy Branch Road and the other

3223
02:22:52,264 --> 02:22:55,233
one is along Key West

3224
02:22:55,233 --> 02:22:58,233
Avenue at Johns Hopkins Road

3225
02:22:58,236 --> 02:22:59,237
. That is just

3226
02:22:59,237 --> 02:23:01,239
across from the new intersection for

3227
02:23:01,239 --> 02:23:03,239
the PST

3228
02:23:04,242 --> 02:23:06,642
site . >> Okay, I see.

3229
02:23:09,247 --> 02:23:10,248
Thank you very much for your answers. >>

3230
02:23:10,248 --> 02:23:12,248
Kerry Sanders

3231
02:23:16,254 --> 02:23:17,255
for the record.

3232
02:23:17,255 --> 02:23:18,256
I want to clarify, the applicant has

3233
02:23:18,256 --> 02:23:19,257
proposed some condition changes and I

3234
02:23:19,257 --> 02:23:20,258
wanted to make sure the

3235
02:23:20,258 --> 02:23:22,260
board was aware of the staffs thoughts about

3236
02:23:22,260 --> 02:23:24,262
those condition changes. As

3237
02:23:24,262 --> 02:23:27,232
the applicant has noted, we have worked

3238
02:23:27,232 --> 02:23:28,233
really well through the process. We feel

3239
02:23:28,233 --> 02:23:30,233
very confident

3240
02:23:31,236 --> 02:23:33,238
with the plans before you

3241
02:23:33,238 --> 02:23:34,239
that the staff has proposed. We've

3242
02:23:34,239 --> 02:23:36,241
talked through a number of

3243
02:23:36,241 --> 02:23:37,242
them already, including the transportation

3244
02:23:37,242 --> 02:23:39,242
condition

3245
02:23:39,244 --> 02:23:42,247
change and are partners at D.O.T. feel

3246
02:23:42,247 --> 02:23:43,248
that the conditions the staff have

3247
02:23:43,248 --> 02:23:45,248
put in our

3248
02:23:46,251 --> 02:23:48,253
good conditions. We don't want to look

3249
02:23:48,253 --> 02:23:49,254
to change those. We do have concerns

3250
02:23:49,254 --> 02:23:50,255
about

3251
02:23:50,255 --> 02:23:52,257
incremental roads and sections of roads

3252
02:23:52,257 --> 02:23:55,257
being built as it relates

3253
02:23:55,260 --> 02:23:57,262
to access safety and the

3254
02:23:57,262 --> 02:23:58,263
traffic signal configuration. We do

3255
02:23:58,263 --> 02:24:00,263
not support

3256
02:24:01,233 --> 02:24:04,233
condition changes to the roadway.

3257
02:24:07,239 --> 02:24:08,240
We have also talked through the condition as

3258
02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:10,242
it relates to the park and we fill

3259
02:24:10,242 --> 02:24:11,243
the condition we have here as it

3260
02:24:11,243 --> 02:24:13,245
relates to the dimensions of the park is

3261
02:24:13,245 --> 02:24:16,245
what we have come to

3262
02:24:16,281 --> 02:24:18,283
with the parks department as an agreement. So, we would not

3263
02:24:18,283 --> 02:24:19,284
support changing that. I believe the third

3264
02:24:19,284 --> 02:24:21,284
condition change related

3265
02:24:22,287 --> 02:24:25,287
to the parking screening , that

3266
02:24:25,290 --> 02:24:28,290
is something that I think

3267
02:24:28,293 --> 02:24:30,295
is in trickle to the vision of the plan

3268
02:24:30,295 --> 02:24:33,895
which called for this compact development

3269
02:24:34,266 --> 02:24:36,268
, this center of activity and economic development.

3270
02:24:36,268 --> 02:24:37,269
We do feel that urban design is in trickle

3271
02:24:37,269 --> 02:24:39,669
to that to creating

3272
02:24:40,272 --> 02:24:43,275
a sense of place. So, at this time

3273
02:24:43,275 --> 02:24:45,277
we really feel those urban design

3274
02:24:45,277 --> 02:24:46,278
changes are necessary, but wanted to

3275
02:24:46,278 --> 02:24:49,278
make sure the board understood

3276
02:24:49,281 --> 02:24:52,284
the staffs position on those condition changes

3277
02:24:52,284 --> 02:24:54,684
requested by the applicant. >>

3278
02:24:55,287 --> 02:24:58,290
That sounded like they were suggestions

3279
02:24:58,290 --> 02:25:00,290
, not necessary things.

3280
02:25:04,296 --> 02:25:06,296
>> This

3281
02:25:07,265 --> 02:25:09,265
is Steve Finley.

3282
02:25:10,268 --> 02:25:13,271
Can we return to the question about the

3283
02:25:13,271 --> 02:25:15,271
forest plantings?

3284
02:25:16,274 --> 02:25:19,277
I want to clarify, is your question about

3285
02:25:19,277 --> 02:25:22,280
the location of the on-site forest planting

3286
02:25:22,280 --> 02:25:23,281
, the

3287
02:25:23,281 --> 02:25:25,283
18 acres of the off-site? >> The off-site.

3288
02:25:25,283 --> 02:25:28,283
>> Okay, yes. The off-site forest

3289
02:25:28,286 --> 02:25:31,286
planting , there is a hierarchy

3290
02:25:31,289 --> 02:25:33,289
of preference

3291
02:25:37,295 --> 02:25:39,297
. First, trying to seek forest banking in

3292
02:25:39,297 --> 02:25:42,267
a forest bank that is the same water head.

3293
02:25:42,267 --> 02:25:43,268
If there are not credits available

3294
02:25:43,268 --> 02:25:45,270
in the forest bank

3295
02:25:45,270 --> 02:25:46,271
in the same watershed than the forest

3296
02:25:46,271 --> 02:25:48,271
bank credit

3297
02:25:49,274 --> 02:25:50,275
can

3298
02:25:50,275 --> 02:25:52,277
be obtained in any forest bank in

3299
02:25:52,277 --> 02:25:54,677
the county in the

3300
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:58,280
approved forest bank. Beyond that

3301
02:25:58,283 --> 02:26:01,286
you have to be no forced bank credits

3302
02:26:01,286 --> 02:26:03,286
available anywhere

3303
02:26:07,292 --> 02:26:10,295
, then they can be substituted. It is a hierarchal process. >>

3304
02:26:10,295 --> 02:26:12,295
Thank you. >>

3305
02:26:14,299 --> 02:26:15,300
I promise to speak

3306
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:17,302
?. I have a couple questions. The screening

3307
02:26:17,302 --> 02:26:19,302
conditions you

3308
02:26:19,304 --> 02:26:20,305
are asking for on the inside portion of

3309
02:26:20,305 --> 02:26:22,305
the park

3310
02:26:23,308 --> 02:26:25,308
,

3311
02:26:26,311 --> 02:26:28,311
correct? >> Yes. Just

3312
02:26:28,313 --> 02:26:32,317
where it fronts on the existing stream Valley

3313
02:26:32,317 --> 02:26:34,317
buffer plantings.

3314
02:26:35,320 --> 02:26:38,323
>> Not as you enter into the

3315
02:26:38,323 --> 02:26:40,323
property. >> Yes. >> Okay.

3316
02:26:44,329 --> 02:26:45,330
We have gone over the activity

3317
02:26:45,330 --> 02:26:47,298
field a little bit, but I want to

3318
02:26:47,298 --> 02:26:50,302
clarify. I have been looking at

3319
02:26:50,302 --> 02:26:52,302
the pictures

3320
02:26:52,304 --> 02:26:53,304
. Is there parking on the east side

3321
02:26:53,304 --> 02:26:54,305
of where the field will be located

3322
02:26:54,305 --> 02:26:55,306
in the northern portion of the park that could

3323
02:26:55,306 --> 02:26:58,310
be appropriated? Or, have we gone

3324
02:26:58,310 --> 02:26:59,311
through all the possible ways of compromising

3325
02:26:59,311 --> 02:27:01,311
the

3326
02:27:02,313 --> 02:27:04,313
design? >>

3327
02:27:05,316 --> 02:27:06,318
That was just informational

3328
02:27:06,318 --> 02:27:08,320
for you to all understand that what

3329
02:27:08,320 --> 02:27:10,320
was shown

3330
02:27:11,322 --> 02:27:13,722
would not be representative

3331
02:27:14,325 --> 02:27:16,328
if that condition stands.

3332
02:27:16,328 --> 02:27:17,329
We will defer to your preference on the

3333
02:27:17,329 --> 02:27:19,329
size.

3334
02:27:20,331 --> 02:27:23,331
>> That was a good question.

3335
02:27:28,306 --> 02:27:29,307
>> The parking garages would not be available

3336
02:27:29,307 --> 02:27:31,307
to the

3337
02:27:31,309 --> 02:27:32,310
public upon Street parking throughout

3338
02:27:32,310 --> 02:27:34,310
the development

3339
02:27:44,322 --> 02:27:46,322
being available . >>

3340
02:27:47,325 --> 02:27:49,725
I have a question

3341
02:27:50,295 --> 02:27:53,295
. There was a variance request

3342
02:27:53,298 --> 02:27:56,267
regarding trees. Will the trees

3343
02:27:56,267 --> 02:27:58,267
that will

3344
02:27:58,269 --> 02:27:59,270
be planted with regards to the variance

3345
02:27:59,270 --> 02:28:01,270
request be

3346
02:28:02,273 --> 02:28:04,273
a native species? >>

3347
02:28:05,276 --> 02:28:06,277
Steve Finley

3348
02:28:06,277 --> 02:28:08,279
, for the record. Yes, the trees to

3349
02:28:08,279 --> 02:28:10,279
be planted

3350
02:28:11,282 --> 02:28:14,282
in mitigation for the removal

3351
02:28:14,319 --> 02:28:17,322
will be native species. Yes sir.

3352
02:28:17,322 --> 02:28:19,322
>> Okay.

3353
02:28:20,325 --> 02:28:22,325
I have

3354
02:28:22,327 --> 02:28:23,328
just a couple of things. The description

3355
02:28:23,328 --> 02:28:25,328
of

3356
02:28:26,331 --> 02:28:28,299
the security fencing

3357
02:28:28,299 --> 02:28:29,300
, at least in the executive summary

3358
02:28:29,300 --> 02:28:31,300
I thought

3359
02:28:32,303 --> 02:28:35,306
was a little odd. Is that the site plan will provide

3360
02:28:35,306 --> 02:28:37,306
a minimum 5.4

3361
02:28:38,309 --> 02:28:41,312
acres with security expense or up to

3362
02:28:41,312 --> 02:28:43,312
1.06 acres

3363
02:28:44,315 --> 02:28:46,315
without .

3364
02:28:47,318 --> 02:28:49,318
I thought it

3365
02:28:50,321 --> 02:28:52,321
might be 1.6 within

3366
02:28:53,324 --> 02:28:55,324
the secured fence.

3367
02:28:56,327 --> 02:28:58,327
No

3368
02:28:59,330 --> 02:29:01,330
?

3369
02:29:02,300 --> 02:29:04,300
>>

3370
02:29:05,303 --> 02:29:08,306
You can see it a little

3371
02:29:08,306 --> 02:29:11,309
bit better here. What is shown in purple

3372
02:29:11,309 --> 02:29:13,311
is the area that

3373
02:29:13,311 --> 02:29:14,312
would be available to the general public

3374
02:29:14,312 --> 02:29:16,312
if they construct

3375
02:29:17,315 --> 02:29:20,315
the fence. That is about

3376
02:29:20,318 --> 02:29:22,318
one half acre.

3377
02:29:24,322 --> 02:29:26,324
>> No, that is with the fence. >>

3378
02:29:26,324 --> 02:29:29,324
Yes, I am sorry. I

3379
02:29:29,327 --> 02:29:30,328
also want to note

3380
02:29:30,328 --> 02:29:32,330
and I don't know if this came up earlier,

3381
02:29:32,330 --> 02:29:35,300
but the fence is not only

3382
02:29:35,300 --> 02:29:37,302
around the urban green, but it

3383
02:29:37,302 --> 02:29:38,303
actually starts where the applicant is

3384
02:29:38,303 --> 02:29:40,303
proposing

3385
02:29:41,306 --> 02:29:44,306
to have a security pavilion

3386
02:29:46,311 --> 02:29:51,111
. It will wrap around a little bit further

3387
02:29:53,318 --> 02:29:54,319
, I believe going towards here. As

3388
02:29:54,319 --> 02:29:55,320
it was alluded to, it will be more of

3389
02:29:55,320 --> 02:29:56,321
an area that is secured as opposed to

3390
02:29:56,321 --> 02:29:58,321
just walling

3391
02:29:59,324 --> 02:30:01,724
off the open space

3392
02:30:02,327 --> 02:30:05,330
in the urban green. >> What you are

3393
02:30:05,330 --> 02:30:07,730
suggesting is an area

3394
02:30:08,299 --> 02:30:11,299
that is at least 1.5 acres

3395
02:30:11,336 --> 02:30:13,736
because .5 would be fenced

3396
02:30:14,339 --> 02:30:16,339
and

3397
02:30:19,344 --> 02:30:20,345
1.0 would be unfenced? >> No, the purple

3398
02:30:20,345 --> 02:30:22,345
outline is

3399
02:30:23,348 --> 02:30:25,748
.54 acres. The blue outline

3400
02:30:26,351 --> 02:30:29,351
is 1.06. The notion is, if

3401
02:30:29,354 --> 02:30:32,354
we don't have a tenant

3402
02:30:32,357 --> 02:30:34,359
requiring security, the entire

3403
02:30:34,359 --> 02:30:35,360
1.06 acres would be unfenced. If we

3404
02:30:35,360 --> 02:30:37,360
have a

3405
02:30:37,362 --> 02:30:40,362
tenant come who requires security

3406
02:30:41,332 --> 02:30:43,732
you will have a

3407
02:30:44,335 --> 02:30:46,337
fence that traces the inside bound of

3408
02:30:46,337 --> 02:30:47,338
the purple box and you would have

3409
02:30:47,338 --> 02:30:49,338
.54

3410
02:30:50,341 --> 02:30:53,344
acres fronting on road C that

3411
02:30:53,344 --> 02:30:56,344
is publicly accessible. >> Got it.

3412
02:30:56,347 --> 02:30:58,347
With regards to

3413
02:30:59,350 --> 02:31:01,750
the phasing of roads ,

3414
02:31:02,353 --> 02:31:05,353
does it provide for flexibility

3415
02:31:05,356 --> 02:31:08,356
on which building goes first?

3416
02:31:08,359 --> 02:31:10,359
>> It does.

3417
02:31:11,362 --> 02:31:14,332
Yes , we have been working

3418
02:31:14,332 --> 02:31:16,334
quite closely with the applicant to

3419
02:31:16,334 --> 02:31:17,335
address some of the concerns they

3420
02:31:17,335 --> 02:31:20,338
have raised today about the language and

3421
02:31:20,338 --> 02:31:23,338
the condition. We did include

3422
02:31:23,341 --> 02:31:26,344
some of their suggested language earlier about

3423
02:31:26,344 --> 02:31:28,744
referencing the phasing plan

3424
02:31:29,347 --> 02:31:31,347
. That is intertwined

3425
02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:32,350
with those conditions associated with

3426
02:31:32,350 --> 02:31:34,350
the road segments.

3427
02:31:35,353 --> 02:31:36,354
>> Okay,

3428
02:31:36,354 --> 02:31:38,356
at some point somebody has to explain to

3429
02:31:38,356 --> 02:31:40,356
me why we

3430
02:31:41,359 --> 02:31:43,759
go in that order.

3431
02:31:44,362 --> 02:31:46,762
But, that is okay. >>

3432
02:31:47,365 --> 02:31:50,335
I will defer to the applicant about the numbering of

3433
02:31:50,335 --> 02:31:53,338
the buildings. We also have a representative

3434
02:31:53,338 --> 02:31:56,338
from C D.O.T.

3435
02:31:56,341 --> 02:31:59,344
, if you would like to hear

3436
02:31:59,344 --> 02:32:01,344
from them. >>

3437
02:32:02,347 --> 02:32:04,347
One of

3438
02:32:04,349 --> 02:32:05,350
the people that testified about the time

3439
02:32:05,350 --> 02:32:07,350
requirements for the

3440
02:32:08,353 --> 02:32:10,388
heavy machinery and sound

3441
02:32:10,388 --> 02:32:11,389
, I assume this could be handled during the

3442
02:32:11,389 --> 02:32:13,389
permitting progress and

3443
02:32:13,391 --> 02:32:14,392
I just wanted to double check that.

3444
02:32:14,392 --> 02:32:16,392
Thank you. >>

3445
02:32:17,395 --> 02:32:20,395
The only other odd thing

3446
02:32:20,398 --> 02:32:22,398
I had was

3447
02:32:26,371 --> 02:32:29,371
eight point B .5 point I

3448
02:32:29,374 --> 02:32:31,374
.

3449
02:32:31,376 --> 02:32:34,376
They want to provide certification

3450
02:32:34,379 --> 02:32:35,380
to the reserves for the planning board staff

3451
02:32:35,380 --> 02:32:38,383
every five years. Given that there

3452
02:32:38,383 --> 02:32:40,385
are no below ground

3453
02:32:40,385 --> 02:32:43,385
structured parking's and private roads

3454
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:47,392
, what would it have been if

3455
02:32:47,392 --> 02:32:49,792
there were underground parking

3456
02:32:50,395 --> 02:32:54,595
on private roads? Why have that phrase? >>

3457
02:32:55,366 --> 02:32:57,368
I believe this is the standard language and

3458
02:32:57,368 --> 02:32:59,368
I believe

3459
02:32:59,370 --> 02:33:01,372
it is covered in the private road covenant

3460
02:33:01,372 --> 02:33:04,375
which is required when you have private roads

3461
02:33:04,375 --> 02:33:06,377
over parking structures and there's

3462
02:33:06,377 --> 02:33:08,377
a different inspection

3463
02:33:09,380 --> 02:33:11,780
process. >> In some cases

3464
02:33:12,383 --> 02:33:14,383
we live

3465
02:33:15,386 --> 02:33:17,786
we allow private roads

3466
02:33:18,389 --> 02:33:20,389
across parking structures

3467
02:33:21,392 --> 02:33:23,392
. >> Okay, thank you.

3468
02:33:24,395 --> 02:33:27,395
I have heard an amendment

3469
02:33:27,398 --> 02:33:29,398
for bathrooms .

3470
02:33:30,368 --> 02:33:32,368
We haven't

3471
02:33:32,370 --> 02:33:34,372
come to a decision, I don't think on

3472
02:33:34,372 --> 02:33:36,772
the architecture versus landscaping

3473
02:33:39,377 --> 02:33:41,377
. It

3474
02:33:42,380 --> 02:33:45,383
seems to me with these buildings

3475
02:33:45,383 --> 02:33:47,383
really embedded

3476
02:33:56,394 --> 02:33:59,394
underground, the landscaping is the

3477
02:34:00,398 --> 02:34:02,398
best way.

3478
02:34:09,407 --> 02:34:11,407
>> What is the

3479
02:34:12,410 --> 02:34:13,411
puzzle for the east side? I

3480
02:34:13,411 --> 02:34:15,413
thought the proposal they were making

3481
02:34:15,413 --> 02:34:17,415
was just for the

3482
02:34:17,415 --> 02:34:18,416
east side , not the other side. The

3483
02:34:18,416 --> 02:34:20,416
architectural treatment

3484
02:34:21,419 --> 02:34:22,420
is

3485
02:34:22,420 --> 02:34:24,422
for the other side, correct? >> That

3486
02:34:24,422 --> 02:34:26,422
is correct. What

3487
02:34:26,424 --> 02:34:27,425
Natasha presented for the Parkside, we

3488
02:34:27,425 --> 02:34:29,425
would just

3489
02:34:30,428 --> 02:34:31,429
rather try to do more

3490
02:34:31,429 --> 02:34:33,431
planting to make it more natural. >>

3491
02:34:33,431 --> 02:34:35,399
I would like to hear from

3492
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:39,403
the staff as to what they're feeling

3493
02:34:39,403 --> 02:34:41,803
is about this proposal. >>

3494
02:34:42,406 --> 02:34:43,407
Thank you .

3495
02:34:43,407 --> 02:34:45,409
I would like to emphasize that we would

3496
02:34:45,409 --> 02:34:47,409
like to see

3497
02:34:48,412 --> 02:34:50,414
architectural elements to screen the

3498
02:34:50,414 --> 02:34:53,417
Western façade , the façade facing

3499
02:34:53,417 --> 02:34:54,418
the Muddy Branch Park and we would

3500
02:34:54,418 --> 02:34:56,418
like

3501
02:34:57,421 --> 02:34:59,423
to see artistic screening elements

3502
02:34:59,423 --> 02:35:00,424
on the Eastern façade because even

3503
02:35:00,424 --> 02:35:02,424
though the applicant

3504
02:35:03,427 --> 02:35:05,827
is proposing mature trees

3505
02:35:06,430 --> 02:35:08,399
and landscaping,

3506
02:35:08,399 --> 02:35:09,400
again it will take time for the trees

3507
02:35:09,400 --> 02:35:12,400
to mature and we are

3508
02:35:14,405 --> 02:35:15,406
living in a four season environment and

3509
02:35:15,406 --> 02:35:17,408
those trees might not have leaves throughout some of

3510
02:35:17,408 --> 02:35:22,208
the months of the year. Also, I think

3511
02:35:24,415 --> 02:35:26,417
there was a slide in the presentation

3512
02:35:26,417 --> 02:35:27,418
if you don't mind sharing it , slide number

3513
02:35:27,418 --> 02:35:29,418
30 was showing how

3514
02:35:30,421 --> 02:35:33,424
the garage was going to look.

3515
02:35:33,424 --> 02:35:35,426
>> I have seen that.

3516
02:35:35,426 --> 02:35:36,427
What do you think about the artistic? I

3517
02:35:36,427 --> 02:35:39,430
think that is a very nice

3518
02:35:39,430 --> 02:35:41,830
compromise. >> It is just

3519
02:35:42,400 --> 02:35:43,401
a painting or

3520
02:35:43,401 --> 02:35:45,403
mural on the building. I have seen it

3521
02:35:45,403 --> 02:35:48,403
and they are really beautiful. >>

3522
02:35:48,406 --> 02:35:50,406
What

3523
02:35:51,409 --> 02:35:53,411
we propose is the best way

3524
02:35:53,411 --> 02:35:54,412
to handle the treatment of that to try

3525
02:35:54,412 --> 02:35:56,412
to obscure

3526
02:35:57,415 --> 02:36:00,418
the garages. Ultimately , if we have to

3527
02:36:00,418 --> 02:36:03,421
treat it, we will treat it

3528
02:36:03,421 --> 02:36:06,424
and it will look great. This

3529
02:36:06,424 --> 02:36:08,424
isn't something

3530
02:36:08,459 --> 02:36:13,259
we are going to die on Hill over.

3531
02:36:15,433 --> 02:36:17,435
>> I think you're being offered

3532
02:36:17,435 --> 02:36:18,436
an option to either do it architecturally

3533
02:36:18,436 --> 02:36:20,436
and

3534
02:36:20,438 --> 02:36:24,380
structurally, if you will or artistically

3535
02:36:24,442 --> 02:36:26,442
. >>

3536
02:36:27,445 --> 02:36:29,447
We would be glad to do it

3537
02:36:29,447 --> 02:36:31,847
artistically. >> Okay. Thank you.

3538
02:36:33,451 --> 02:36:35,451
>> Okay.

3539
02:36:39,457 --> 02:36:42,457
Are there other board members

3540
02:36:42,460 --> 02:36:43,461
in favor of

3541
02:36:43,461 --> 02:36:45,463
making that change? >> That works

3542
02:36:45,463 --> 02:36:47,465
for me. My primary concern is the entryway to

3543
02:36:47,465 --> 02:36:48,432
the Parkside on muddy branch , the

3544
02:36:48,432 --> 02:36:50,432
preserved area.

3545
02:36:51,435 --> 02:36:53,835
I and fine with

3546
02:36:54,438 --> 02:36:56,838
it either being landscaping

3547
02:36:57,441 --> 02:37:00,411
or artistic. It is fine with me.

3548
02:37:00,411 --> 02:37:03,414
>> I feel the same way. I

3549
02:37:03,414 --> 02:37:06,417
am okay with this. I feel

3550
02:37:06,417 --> 02:37:07,418
they are

3551
02:37:07,418 --> 02:37:09,420
going to do something that will look

3552
02:37:09,420 --> 02:37:13,620
nice. I just don't want to put

3553
02:37:15,426 --> 02:37:17,426
a plane parking

3554
02:37:17,428 --> 02:37:19,430
garage. I'm sure they want to have some

3555
02:37:19,430 --> 02:37:21,399
sort of air circulation or whatever

3556
02:37:21,399 --> 02:37:23,399
they do with

3557
02:37:23,401 --> 02:37:24,402
it. If they can do something artistic

3558
02:37:24,402 --> 02:37:26,402
, that would be

3559
02:37:27,405 --> 02:37:29,405
very nice. >> Okay.

3560
02:37:30,408 --> 02:37:32,408
>>

3561
02:37:33,411 --> 02:37:37,110
I have a point of clarification.

3562
02:37:39,417 --> 02:37:41,419
There would be no change

3563
02:37:41,419 --> 02:37:42,420
to the conditions based on the conversation here.

3564
02:37:42,420 --> 02:37:44,420
It just says

3565
02:37:45,423 --> 02:37:49,230
provide screening of an artistic element.

3566
02:37:57,401 --> 02:37:59,401
>> I

3567
02:37:59,403 --> 02:38:02,406
will entertain a motion by anybody.

3568
02:38:02,406 --> 02:38:05,406
Unless there is further discussion.

3569
02:38:09,447 --> 02:38:11,447
>> With the variances

3570
02:38:12,450 --> 02:38:15,453
do we need anything more than a motion

3571
02:38:15,453 --> 02:38:17,455
to approve the site plan? >> There

3572
02:38:17,455 --> 02:38:21,459
are two things we have to approve.

3573
02:38:21,459 --> 02:38:22,460
>> Mr. chair, if I could jump

3574
02:38:22,460 --> 02:38:24,462
in for a moment I want to make sure

3575
02:38:24,462 --> 02:38:26,464
I am clear for the record, whether the board has made

3576
02:38:26,464 --> 02:38:27,465
a decision on the changes related to

3577
02:38:27,465 --> 02:38:29,465
the proposed

3578
02:38:30,434 --> 02:38:33,434
athletic fields , as well as

3579
02:38:33,437 --> 02:38:34,438
the phasing of the roads. I just want

3580
02:38:34,438 --> 02:38:36,440
to understand the boards consensus

3581
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:38,442
on those. >> I think

3582
02:38:38,442 --> 02:38:39,443
I heard a consensus for sticking with

3583
02:38:39,443 --> 02:38:41,443
the size

3584
02:38:42,446 --> 02:38:45,449
of the athletic field. I haven't

3585
02:38:45,449 --> 02:38:47,449
heard anybody suggest

3586
02:38:51,455 --> 02:38:54,458
-- >>--What is the size of the athletic field? >> 140

3587
02:38:54,458 --> 02:38:56,458
feet by 230 feet.

3588
02:39:00,464 --> 02:39:02,464
Right?

3589
02:39:03,434 --> 02:39:06,437
I did not hear any move

3590
02:39:06,437 --> 02:39:09,437
to change the phasing as

3591
02:39:09,440 --> 02:39:12,443
proposed by staff. >> Thank you. >> Was

3592
02:39:12,443 --> 02:39:15,446
that the size of the field

3593
02:39:15,446 --> 02:39:18,446
that was originally the vision

3594
02:39:18,449 --> 02:39:21,452
or what Mr. Fisher was proposing? >>

3595
02:39:21,452 --> 02:39:24,455
I think Mr. Fisher was proposing something smaller

3596
02:39:24,455 --> 02:39:27,455
than that, no wake >> Yes.

3597
02:39:27,458 --> 02:39:30,458
>> I will go with what

3598
02:39:30,461 --> 02:39:33,464
was originally envisioned. The question with

3599
02:39:33,464 --> 02:39:35,464
Mr. Bradley

3600
02:39:36,434 --> 02:39:40,438
was whether they could move it to the

3601
02:39:40,438 --> 02:39:42,438
southern part

3602
02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:45,443
. I think there was some discussion

3603
02:39:45,443 --> 02:39:48,446
about having some kind of negotiation

3604
02:39:48,446 --> 02:39:49,447
with the parks department or something.

3605
02:39:49,447 --> 02:39:51,447
>> No

3606
02:39:55,453 --> 02:39:57,453
, it will be

3607
02:39:58,456 --> 02:40:00,456
privately owned . I

3608
02:40:01,459 --> 02:40:03,859
don't see there is

3609
02:40:04,462 --> 02:40:05,496
a requirement that it be

3610
02:40:05,496 --> 02:40:07,498
on the north side or the south side

3611
02:40:07,498 --> 02:40:09,498
in the conditions,

3612
02:40:10,468 --> 02:40:12,468
it self. >> Okay.

3613
02:40:13,471 --> 02:40:16,474
>> If I may jump in to clarify

3614
02:40:16,474 --> 02:40:17,475
where the condition is in the staff

3615
02:40:17,475 --> 02:40:21,750
report. It is page 6, condition three

3616
02:40:22,480 --> 02:40:24,482
and it is 3B. The park

3617
02:40:24,482 --> 02:40:28,820
must maintain a rectangular athletic field

3618
02:40:28,486 --> 02:40:30,486
for active recreation

3619
02:40:31,489 --> 02:40:35,890
. I just wanted to make sure

3620
02:40:37,495 --> 02:40:38,496
that is what the staff condition is and

3621
02:40:38,496 --> 02:40:40,498
the board is telling us to keep that

3622
02:40:40,498 --> 02:40:41,499
condition as is? >> Yes. But,

3623
02:40:41,499 --> 02:40:43,467
it seems to me it could be in the

3624
02:40:43,467 --> 02:40:44,468
southern part. It

3625
02:40:44,468 --> 02:40:48,680
is not a requirement on where. >>

3626
02:40:49,473 --> 02:40:50,474
I was just going to add that there

3627
02:40:50,474 --> 02:40:52,476
is some flexibility built in because the

3628
02:40:52,476 --> 02:40:54,476
applicant will

3629
02:40:55,479 --> 02:40:58,479
be continuing to refine the

3630
02:40:58,482 --> 02:40:59,483
final design. So, if

3631
02:40:59,483 --> 02:41:01,485
they would need to move it to the South

3632
02:41:01,485 --> 02:41:04,488
side, they would be able to do

3633
02:41:04,488 --> 02:41:06,488
so. >>

3634
02:41:06,490 --> 02:41:07,491
But, the southern part would be built later

3635
02:41:07,491 --> 02:41:08,492
on? Do

3636
02:41:08,492 --> 02:41:10,494
we have any dates? >> When I say the

3637
02:41:10,494 --> 02:41:12,494
southern, I mean

3638
02:41:13,497 --> 02:41:15,466
north of Belward Campus Drive

3639
02:41:15,466 --> 02:41:19,660
being broken up into two portions.

3640
02:41:19,470 --> 02:41:21,870
So, I just mean

3641
02:41:22,473 --> 02:41:24,873
south of road B-3.

3642
02:41:25,476 --> 02:41:27,478
This is the southern

3643
02:41:27,478 --> 02:41:30,481
area of this phase and is part of this

3644
02:41:30,481 --> 02:41:34,810
development. >> The testimony we have heard

3645
02:41:37,488 --> 02:41:38,489
is a field of

3646
02:41:38,489 --> 02:41:39,490
that size going to have to move to

3647
02:41:39,490 --> 02:41:40,491
the southern portion. Is that correct?

3648
02:41:40,491 --> 02:41:42,493
>> It sounds like it

3649
02:41:42,493 --> 02:41:43,494
>> Yes and again for the record ,

3650
02:41:43,494 --> 02:41:45,894
and we apologize for

3651
02:41:46,497 --> 02:41:48,465
the confusion. The reason we are proposing

3652
02:41:48,465 --> 02:41:52,469
the park is that it fit perfectly

3653
02:41:52,469 --> 02:41:54,869
in the northern side.

3654
02:41:55,472 --> 02:41:57,872
Now that it is

3655
02:41:58,475 --> 02:41:59,476
a larger athletic field, we

3656
02:41:59,476 --> 02:42:01,478
have to move it to the southern side. The

3657
02:42:01,478 --> 02:42:04,515
drawback with that is that you lose

3658
02:42:04,515 --> 02:42:07,515
the interconnected nature of that

3659
02:42:07,518 --> 02:42:10,521
southern part of that park and you push

3660
02:42:10,521 --> 02:42:12,521
a smaller

3661
02:42:12,523 --> 02:42:13,524
family gathering Park to the north

3662
02:42:13,524 --> 02:42:15,524
.

3663
02:42:16,527 --> 02:42:18,527
That is the

3664
02:42:19,530 --> 02:42:21,530
sole issue. >> Okay.

3665
02:42:22,499 --> 02:42:25,502
I think we are good. >> We are

3666
02:42:25,502 --> 02:42:28,505
good. >> Do I hear a motion

3667
02:42:28,505 --> 02:42:31,508
with the amendments we have made

3668
02:42:31,508 --> 02:42:34,508
? This is a complicated project.

3669
02:42:34,511 --> 02:42:35,512
I can

3670
02:42:35,512 --> 02:42:37,514
see why this took so long. >> For the

3671
02:42:37,514 --> 02:42:39,516
record, I think the amendment to the

3672
02:42:39,516 --> 02:42:43,520
condition we made was for the restrooms

3673
02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:44,521
. >> That is

3674
02:42:44,521 --> 02:42:46,523
correct. >> All other conditions remain unchanged.

3675
02:42:46,523 --> 02:42:48,523
That is correct.

3676
02:42:51,528 --> 02:42:52,529
>> As well as the staff corrections which

3677
02:42:52,529 --> 02:42:54,529
are

3678
02:42:55,499 --> 02:42:57,899
more small corrections. >> We

3679
02:42:58,502 --> 02:43:00,502
accept those.

3680
02:43:07,511 --> 02:43:09,511
Do I hear

3681
02:43:10,514 --> 02:43:12,914
a motion to approve

3682
02:43:13,517 --> 02:43:15,517
the site plan ? >>

3683
02:43:16,520 --> 02:43:19,523
I make a motion to approve the

3684
02:43:19,523 --> 02:43:21,525
Belward Park site plan with the

3685
02:43:21,525 --> 02:43:22,526
conditions as proposed by staff and

3686
02:43:22,526 --> 02:43:24,526
is discussed. >>

3687
02:43:25,529 --> 02:43:28,499
I second that motion >> All right, great.

3688
02:43:28,499 --> 02:43:31,502
I think we've had some discussion

3689
02:43:31,502 --> 02:43:34,502
. All those in favor say

3690
02:43:34,505 --> 02:43:36,505
,

3691
02:43:37,508 --> 02:43:39,508
aye.

3692
02:43:40,511 --> 02:43:42,911
Do I hear a

3693
02:43:43,514 --> 02:43:44,515
motion to approve the force conservation

3694
02:43:44,515 --> 02:43:48,115
plan with its own separate number

3695
02:43:49,520 --> 02:43:51,520
? >> With

3696
02:43:52,523 --> 02:43:54,923
the force conservation plan

3697
02:43:55,526 --> 02:43:58,529
, do we need to do the variance first? >>

3698
02:43:58,529 --> 02:44:01,529
The variance is part of

3699
02:44:01,532 --> 02:44:03,534
that. >> Just to clarify for

3700
02:44:03,534 --> 02:44:04,535
the motion. I will move we approve

3701
02:44:04,535 --> 02:44:06,935
the final force conservation

3702
02:44:07,538 --> 02:44:09,538
plan number

3703
02:44:10,541 --> 02:44:12,541
F.'s

3704
02:44:13,544 --> 02:44:15,544
>> I second. >>

3705
02:44:16,547 --> 02:44:19,550
All those in favor say aye. >> Congratulations

3706
02:44:19,550 --> 02:44:22,553
and thank you for your patience.

3707
02:44:22,553 --> 02:44:24,553
And fall

3708
02:44:25,556 --> 02:44:27,556
for your

3709
02:44:28,559 --> 02:44:31,562
work to get it on the ground. >>

3710
02:44:31,562 --> 02:44:34,565
Thank you . On behalf of Trammell Crow we

3711
02:44:34,565 --> 02:44:36,533
appreciate your time , your thoughtfulness and

3712
02:44:36,533 --> 02:44:37,534
we look forward to visiting with you over

3713
02:44:37,534 --> 02:44:40,534
the next 10 years. Thank you.

3714
02:44:40,537 --> 02:44:42,537
>>

3715
02:44:43,540 --> 02:44:45,540
Thank you.

3716
02:50:23,613 --> 02:50:25,613
>> [

3717
02:50:26,616 --> 02:50:28,616
Captioners Transitioning ] >>

3718
02:54:08,672 --> 02:54:10,672
GOOD AFTERNOON, ALMOST.

3719
02:54:13,677 --> 02:54:14,678
IT'S MARCH 30th, 2023, THIS IS THE PLANNING

3720
02:54:14,678 --> 02:54:17,681
BOARD SESSION, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

3721
02:54:17,681 --> 02:54:19,681
THE FIRST

3722
02:54:20,684 --> 02:54:22,684
THE

3723
02:54:23,687 --> 02:54:25,687
AND RESERVE

3724
02:54:26,690 --> 02:54:29,690
, AND THIS IS CONDITIONAL USE

3725
02:54:29,693 --> 02:54:31,693
FOR WE SUPPLY

3726
02:54:31,695 --> 02:54:32,696
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE HEARING EXAMINER. >>

3727
02:54:32,696 --> 02:54:35,696
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT

3728
02:54:35,699 --> 02:54:37,667
OVER TO

3729
02:54:37,667 --> 02:54:38,668
THE STAFF. ALTHOUGH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON

3730
02:54:38,668 --> 02:54:40,668
THIS? >> NO. >> NEXT

3731
02:54:41,671 --> 02:54:43,671
ONE. >>

3732
02:54:44,674 --> 02:54:46,674
A GREAT

3733
02:54:46,676 --> 02:54:47,677
PROJECT, BUT I'M BIASED, WHAT CAN

3734
02:54:47,677 --> 02:54:50,680
I TELL YOU? STAFF, IF YOU

3735
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:52,680
CAN GO AHEAD. >>

3736
02:54:53,683 --> 02:54:55,683
GOOD MORNING,

3737
02:54:56,686 --> 02:54:59,860
MARK FOR THE RECORD

3738
02:54:59,689 --> 02:55:01,689
OF COUNTY

3739
02:55:01,691 --> 02:55:02,692
PLANNING, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BRING

3740
02:55:02,692 --> 02:55:05,692
FREE RANGE SOLAR FARM, IT'S

3741
02:55:05,695 --> 02:55:08,695
CONDITIONAL USE , AND THE NUMBERS

3742
02:55:08,698 --> 02:55:10,698
CE YOU 202305.

3743
02:55:11,668 --> 02:55:14,668
TO START OFF WITH A

3744
02:55:14,671 --> 02:55:15,672
COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS, AND

3745
02:55:15,672 --> 02:55:17,640
THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 19 WE MENTIONED

3746
02:55:17,640 --> 02:55:19,640
THAT IT WAS

3747
02:55:20,643 --> 02:55:21,644
A PRELIMINARY FORCE CONCH ROTATION,

3748
02:55:21,644 --> 02:55:23,644
IT'S

3749
02:55:24,647 --> 02:55:26,647
A FINAL

3750
02:55:27,650 --> 02:55:30,653
FOREST CONSERVATION PLAN. I NOTED THAT THE

3751
02:55:30,653 --> 02:55:31,654
PANELS ARE SIX FOOT 6 INCHES

3752
02:55:31,654 --> 02:55:32,655
, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ARE PRETTY

3753
02:55:32,655 --> 02:55:33,656
MUCH ALMOST FLAT. THESE MOVE WITH

3754
02:55:33,656 --> 02:55:34,657
THE SUN

3755
02:55:34,657 --> 02:55:36,659
SO THEY WILL BE TILTING, AND THE TOP

3756
02:55:36,659 --> 02:55:39,662
MAY BE A LITTLE TALLER, AND

3757
02:55:39,662 --> 02:55:40,663
IT COULD

3758
02:55:40,663 --> 02:55:41,664
GO UP TO 12 FEET, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW

3759
02:55:41,664 --> 02:55:45,635
BIG THE PANELS ARE. >> THE PROPERTY IS

3760
02:55:45,635 --> 02:55:47,635
LOCATED AT 5011

3761
02:55:47,637 --> 02:55:51,237
RIGGS ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED

3762
02:55:51,641 --> 02:55:53,643
IN THE RED DASHED LINE.

3763
02:55:53,643 --> 02:55:57,243
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS UNKNOWN PLATTED

3764
02:55:57,680 --> 02:55:59,680
ON A

3765
02:55:59,682 --> 02:56:04,482
NINE ACRE PARCEL. IF AN EXISTING HORSE FARM,

3766
02:56:07,690 --> 02:56:08,691
AND THE FARMAN HORSES WILL REMAIN. THEY

3767
02:56:08,691 --> 02:56:09,692
ARE JUST TAKING A PORTION OF IT TO

3768
02:56:09,692 --> 02:56:10,693
CREATE THIS

3769
02:56:10,693 --> 02:56:14,697
SOLAR FARM. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS EXISTING

3770
02:56:14,697 --> 02:56:15,698
PASTURES AND BARNS, THE ACCESS ROAD IS

3771
02:56:15,698 --> 02:56:16,666
ON RIGGS ROAD.

3772
02:56:16,666 --> 02:56:19,669
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY ACCESS

3773
02:56:19,669 --> 02:56:21,671
. THEY ARE NOT CREATING ANY NEW ACCESS

3774
02:56:21,671 --> 02:56:24,710
WITH THIS APPLICATION. THERE'S

3775
02:56:24,674 --> 02:56:28,274
A POND SITE AS WELL AS

3776
02:56:30,680 --> 02:56:32,680
-- >>

3777
02:56:36,686 --> 02:56:38,688
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MAINLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT

3778
02:56:38,688 --> 02:56:42,692
AND AGRICULTURAL USES. THE AREA TO THE

3779
02:56:42,692 --> 02:56:45,920
WEST AND EAST ARE

3780
02:56:45,695 --> 02:56:47,695
AR SOUND.

3781
02:56:48,698 --> 02:56:50,667
WE FOUND THREE CONDITIONAL USES AND

3782
02:56:50,667 --> 02:56:54,267
EXCEPTIONS THAT CONSIST IN THE AREA.

3783
02:56:56,673 --> 02:56:57,674
HERE'S AN OVERALL MAP VIEW, THESE ARE

3784
02:56:57,674 --> 02:56:58,675
DIFFERENT PICTURES OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND

3785
02:56:58,675 --> 02:57:00,677
DIFFERENT ANGLES OF THE SITE. THE

3786
02:57:00,677 --> 02:57:03,770
VIEW FROM A IS

3787
02:57:05,682 --> 02:57:06,683
, RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE, AND THE ACCESS

3788
02:57:06,683 --> 02:57:07,684
ROAD IS GOING

3789
02:57:07,684 --> 02:57:08,685
TO BE COMING ACROSS HERE AND LOOKING UP THE

3790
02:57:08,685 --> 02:57:09,686
HILL TO WHERE THE SOLAR ARRAYS GOING

3791
02:57:09,686 --> 02:57:11,686
TO

3792
02:57:11,688 --> 02:57:12,689
BE LOCATED. VIEW B, IS STANDING IN THE

3793
02:57:12,689 --> 02:57:14,689
CENTER OF THE

3794
02:57:14,691 --> 02:57:15,692
COMPOUND LOOKING BACK DOWN TOWARD

3795
02:57:15,692 --> 02:57:18,695
THE ACCESS ROAD AND TOWARDS THE

3796
02:57:18,695 --> 02:57:21,950
POND. AND THEN C

3797
02:57:22,699 --> 02:57:23,666
, IS THAT THE WESTERNMOST EDGE OF THE

3798
02:57:23,666 --> 02:57:24,667
COMPOUND LOOKING TOWARD THE NEIGHBORS

3799
02:57:24,667 --> 02:57:26,667
TO

3800
02:57:27,670 --> 02:57:29,670
THE WEST.

3801
02:57:32,675 --> 02:57:33,676
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO PUT ANY LANDSCAPING UP, HOWEVER THEY ARE PROVIDING

3802
02:57:33,676 --> 02:57:34,677
LANDSCAPING, THEY ARE

3803
02:57:34,677 --> 02:57:38,277
TAKING AN ADDITIONAL STEP TO TAKE

3804
02:57:39,682 --> 02:57:40,683
IN LANDSCAPING SO THAT THE

3805
02:57:40,683 --> 02:57:42,685
PANELS ARE NOT SEEN BY THE NEIGHBORS, IF

3806
02:57:42,685 --> 02:57:44,685
AT ALL.

3807
02:57:47,690 --> 02:57:48,691
THEN VIEW D IS AT THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE

3808
02:57:48,691 --> 02:57:49,692
COMPOUND LOOKING BACK SOUTH

3809
02:57:49,692 --> 02:57:51,694
TOWARD THE POND AND WOODED AREA. >>

3810
02:57:51,694 --> 02:57:54,697
HERE WE HAVE THE OUTLINE OF THE SOLAR COMPOUND ALONG

3811
02:57:54,697 --> 02:57:56,699
WITH THE ACCESS ROADS

3812
02:57:56,699 --> 02:58:00,703
, THIS IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE, THERE'S A

3813
02:58:00,703 --> 02:58:01,704
PLAN LATER

3814
02:58:01,704 --> 02:58:02,705
THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT.

3815
02:58:02,705 --> 02:58:03,706
BUT THIS IS WHERE THE PLANT IS GOING

3816
02:58:03,706 --> 02:58:05,706
TO BE.

3817
02:58:06,709 --> 02:58:07,710
THEY ARE ONLY USING 4.29

3818
02:58:07,710 --> 02:58:09,712
ACRES OF THE 82+ ACRES FOR THE SOLAR

3819
02:58:09,712 --> 02:58:11,714
COMPOUND. THEN YOU HAVE THE ACCESS ROAD

3820
02:58:11,714 --> 02:58:12,715
. ALL IN ALL, THE CONDITIONAL USES

3821
02:58:12,715 --> 02:58:14,715
FOR A LITTLE

3822
02:58:15,718 --> 02:58:16,719
OVER SEVEN

3823
02:58:16,719 --> 02:58:17,720
ACRES INCLUDING THE ACCESS ROAD. THE

3824
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:18,721
REMAINING PART WILL REMAIN FARM AND

3825
02:58:18,721 --> 02:58:20,721
WILL NOT

3826
02:58:21,724 --> 02:58:24,124
BE FOR RECREATIONAL USE. >>

3827
02:58:24,727 --> 02:58:27,730
SO HERE WE HAVE A PLAN .

3828
02:58:27,730 --> 02:58:29,699
IT'S A PARTIAL PLAN, DIDN'T GO

3829
02:58:29,699 --> 02:58:30,700
ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PARK BECAUSE THERE'S

3830
02:58:30,700 --> 02:58:31,701
NOTHING CHANGING UP HERE.

3831
02:58:31,701 --> 02:58:33,703
THERE'S A POND DOWN HERE THAT THEY

3832
02:58:33,703 --> 02:58:35,703
ARE ACTUALLY

3833
02:58:38,708 --> 02:58:39,709
DRAWING WATER FROM, THERE CAN HAVE

3834
02:58:39,709 --> 02:58:41,711
A FIRE ACCESS PLAN AND A FIRE HYDRANT TO SERVE

3835
02:58:41,711 --> 02:58:45,715
FOR FIRE PROTECTION, IF NEED BE. THAT

3836
02:58:45,715 --> 02:58:46,716
HAS A WETLAND AREA RIGHT

3837
02:58:46,716 --> 02:58:47,717
HERE IN THIS LOCATION, AND PART OF

3838
02:58:47,717 --> 02:58:48,718
THE PLAN IS YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE

3839
02:58:48,718 --> 02:58:50,720
TO TIE INTO POWER

3840
02:58:50,720 --> 02:58:51,721
FOR ZION ROAD, SO THEY WILL GO TO

3841
02:58:51,721 --> 02:58:54,721
TO A CERTAIN POINT AND

3842
02:58:54,724 --> 02:58:55,725
GO UNDERGROUND TO

3843
02:58:55,725 --> 02:58:57,727
GO UNDER THE WETLAND SO THEY ARE NOT AFFECTED

3844
02:58:57,727 --> 02:58:59,727
AT ALL.

3845
02:58:59,729 --> 02:59:00,730
THEY WANT THE LOCAL WETLANDS TO TIE

3846
02:59:00,730 --> 02:59:02,730
INTO ZION ROAD.

3847
02:59:03,700 --> 02:59:05,700
IT IS A

3848
02:59:06,703 --> 02:59:09,706
RUSTIC ROAD. THERE'S A PICTURE HERE.

3849
02:59:09,706 --> 02:59:12,709
THEY ARE TIRING INTO THIS POLL, THIS

3850
02:59:12,709 --> 02:59:15,712
POLL IS MUCH THICKER, THIS IS THE THINNEST PART

3851
02:59:15,712 --> 02:59:17,712
OF THE

3852
02:59:20,717 --> 02:59:21,718
SIDE OF THE ROAD CLOSE TO ZION. OFTEN

3853
02:59:21,718 --> 02:59:24,721
THE DISTANCE, I GOT A PICTURE BACK IN

3854
02:59:24,721 --> 02:59:25,722
THIS FAR OFF AREAS WHERE THE

3855
02:59:25,722 --> 02:59:27,724
SOLAR ARRAYS GOING TO BE. THIS IS A

3856
02:59:27,724 --> 02:59:28,725
WINTER PICTURE, WITH NO

3857
02:59:28,725 --> 02:59:30,727
LEAVES ON THE TREES, SO YOU'RE NOT

3858
02:59:30,727 --> 02:59:32,729
GOING TO SEE THIS

3859
02:59:32,729 --> 02:59:33,730
OFF ZION ROAD, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. IT'S

3860
02:59:33,730 --> 02:59:35,730
LOCATED IN THE

3861
02:59:36,699 --> 02:59:39,699
2005 OLNEY MASTER PLAN. NO SPECIFIC

3862
02:59:44,707 --> 02:59:45,708
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

3863
02:59:45,708 --> 02:59:46,709
THIS IS TO

3864
02:59:46,709 --> 02:59:47,710
STAY OPEN TO AGRICULTURAL USES, OPEN

3865
02:59:47,710 --> 02:59:48,711
AREAS, DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, THAT SORT

3866
02:59:48,711 --> 02:59:51,711
OF THING. >> AGAIN, THE PROPERTY

3867
02:59:51,714 --> 02:59:52,715
IS

3868
02:59:52,715 --> 02:59:54,751
IN THE OLNEY MASTER PLAN, IT'S CONSISTENT

3869
02:59:54,751 --> 02:59:56,751
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS,

3870
02:59:56,753 --> 02:59:57,754
IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER

3871
02:59:57,754 --> 03:00:00,154
OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

3872
03:00:00,757 --> 03:00:01,758
THERE IS NO

3873
03:00:01,758 --> 03:00:02,759
UNDUE HARM OR ADVERSE EFFECTS FOR

3874
03:00:02,759 --> 03:00:03,760
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. THIS APPLICATION

3875
03:00:03,760 --> 03:00:05,760
MEETS ALL

3876
03:00:06,763 --> 03:00:08,763
REQUIREMENTS FOR

3877
03:00:08,765 --> 03:00:11,734
THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SOLAR

3878
03:00:11,734 --> 03:00:14,734
COLLECTION SYSTEM AND GENERAL REQUIREMENTS.

3879
03:00:19,742 --> 03:00:20,743
WE RECEIVED ONE CORRESPONDENCE, AN

3880
03:00:20,743 --> 03:00:21,744
EMAIL FROM A NEIGHBOR, THEY SHARE

3881
03:00:21,744 --> 03:00:24,747
A POND WITH ALLOWING, AND AGREEING TO

3882
03:00:24,747 --> 03:00:26,747
USE UPON

3883
03:00:29,752 --> 03:00:30,753
FOR FIRE PROTECTION AS PART OF THE

3884
03:00:30,753 --> 03:00:31,754
ACCESS PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS BE TRANSMITTED

3885
03:00:31,754 --> 03:00:32,755
FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR SOLAR

3886
03:00:32,755 --> 03:00:33,756
COLLECTION SYSTEM. THANK YOU FOR THE

3887
03:00:33,756 --> 03:00:36,156
TIME, THE STAFF IS

3888
03:00:36,759 --> 03:00:38,759
HERE TO

3889
03:00:38,761 --> 03:00:39,762
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS THE

3890
03:00:39,762 --> 03:00:42,162
APPLICANT IS HERE. THANK

3891
03:00:42,765 --> 03:00:44,765
YOU. >>

3892
03:00:45,735 --> 03:00:47,735
I JUST

3893
03:00:47,737 --> 03:00:48,738
WANTED TO SAY HELLO, AND THANK YOU

3894
03:00:48,738 --> 03:00:51,741
TO MARK. NICE TO SEE YOU. >> [

3895
03:00:51,741 --> 03:00:53,741
LAUGHTER ] >> OKAY, WOULD

3896
03:00:53,743 --> 03:00:54,744
ALSO PARTICULARLY NOTE THE OFFICE

3897
03:00:54,744 --> 03:00:56,744
OF AGRICULTURE

3898
03:00:57,747 --> 03:01:00,747
HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS,

3899
03:01:03,753 --> 03:01:05,753
SO WITH THAT,

3900
03:01:06,756 --> 03:01:09,759
DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >>

3901
03:01:09,759 --> 03:01:11,759
OH,

3902
03:01:12,762 --> 03:01:14,762
I'M SORRY.

3903
03:01:15,765 --> 03:01:17,765
BOARDMEMBER

3904
03:01:18,735 --> 03:01:20,735
PINERO . >>

3905
03:01:21,738 --> 03:01:23,738
THANK YOU,

3906
03:01:24,741 --> 03:01:26,741
MR. CHAIR.

3907
03:01:27,744 --> 03:01:30,747
WE HAD SEEN THE SOLAR PROJECT BEFORE,

3908
03:01:30,747 --> 03:01:32,749
AND I REMEMBER SOMEBODY

3909
03:01:32,749 --> 03:01:33,750
, IT WASN'T ME, BUT SOMEBODY ASKED

3910
03:01:33,750 --> 03:01:36,753
WHETHER THIS KIND OF SOLAR PROJECT IS

3911
03:01:36,753 --> 03:01:40,953
GOING TO GENERATE ANY KIND OF SOUND

3912
03:01:42,759 --> 03:01:45,159
THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW,

3913
03:01:45,762 --> 03:01:48,765
BE LOUD ENOUGH TO DISTURB ANY OF

3914
03:01:48,765 --> 03:01:52,965
THE NEIGHBORS. CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT? >>

3915
03:01:55,772 --> 03:01:57,772
FOR THE RECORD,

3916
03:02:01,778 --> 03:02:04,778
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT,

3917
03:02:04,781 --> 03:02:06,781
THANK YOU.

3918
03:02:06,783 --> 03:02:07,784
BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, JUST WANT

3919
03:02:07,784 --> 03:02:08,785
TO

3920
03:02:08,785 --> 03:02:10,787
SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH

3921
03:02:10,787 --> 03:02:12,789
STAFF ON THIS PROJECT

3922
03:02:12,789 --> 03:02:13,790
, AS THE CHAIR INDICATED, IT IS THE

3923
03:02:13,790 --> 03:02:15,790
FIRST COMMUNITY

3924
03:02:16,793 --> 03:02:18,793
SOLAR PROJECT

3925
03:02:18,795 --> 03:02:19,796
IN THE AR ZONE, SO WE ARE PROUD TO BRING THIS TO

3926
03:02:19,796 --> 03:02:21,796
THE

3927
03:02:22,799 --> 03:02:23,766
COMMISSION. >> THE PROCESS

3928
03:02:23,766 --> 03:02:24,767
HAS BEEN A BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE,

3929
03:02:24,767 --> 03:02:25,768
BUT I THINK THIS WILL PAVE THE WAY

3930
03:02:25,768 --> 03:02:27,768
FOR HOPEFULLY

3931
03:02:28,771 --> 03:02:30,773
MORE PROJECTS OF THIS KIND TO

3932
03:02:30,773 --> 03:02:34,373
FULFILL THE INTENT OF THE ZONING.

3933
03:02:34,777 --> 03:02:36,779
WITH THAT, I WILL ALLOW

3934
03:02:36,779 --> 03:02:37,780
--ASK MIKE TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND

3935
03:02:37,780 --> 03:02:39,780
ANSWER THE

3936
03:02:40,783 --> 03:02:41,784
QUESTION. >>

3937
03:02:41,784 --> 03:02:43,786
THANK YOU, SUE. >> I MIKE CHAPMAN, I

3938
03:02:43,786 --> 03:02:44,787
AM THE PRIMARY DEVELOPER

3939
03:02:44,787 --> 03:02:46,789
OF THIS SOLAR PROJECT, AND ONE OF

3940
03:02:46,789 --> 03:02:49,789
THE CO-OWNERS OF THE FARM

3941
03:02:49,792 --> 03:02:51,792
THAT IS THE

3942
03:02:51,794 --> 03:02:54,794
UNDERLYING PROPERTY FOR THE PROJECT.

3943
03:02:55,798 --> 03:02:57,798
>> THE QUESTION WAS,

3944
03:02:58,768 --> 03:02:59,769
IS THERE

3945
03:02:59,769 --> 03:03:01,771
--ARE THERE ANY NOISY MISSIONS THAT

3946
03:03:01,771 --> 03:03:03,771
CAN BE NOTICEABLE?

3947
03:03:04,774 --> 03:03:05,775
AND DISTURBED

3948
03:03:05,775 --> 03:03:06,776
NEIGHBORS? AND THE ANSWER IS NO. THE

3949
03:03:06,776 --> 03:03:10,376
NEAREST NEIGHBORS ARE IN ONE DIRECTION

3950
03:03:10,780 --> 03:03:11,781
430 FEET

3951
03:03:11,781 --> 03:03:15,381
AWAY, AND THE OTHER 540 FEET AWAY,

3952
03:03:15,785 --> 03:03:16,786
AND ANY NOISE THAT COMES FROM THE SELLER,

3953
03:03:16,786 --> 03:03:17,787
OR THE

3954
03:03:17,787 --> 03:03:19,789
TRANSFORMER THERE'S A VERY LOW FAINT

3955
03:03:19,789 --> 03:03:21,789
HUM THAT

3956
03:03:22,792 --> 03:03:24,794
YOU MIGHT HEAR AT ANY

3957
03:03:24,794 --> 03:03:25,795
TRANSFORMER THAT YOU NOTICE IN THOSE

3958
03:03:25,795 --> 03:03:27,795
NEIGHBORHOODS,

3959
03:03:28,798 --> 03:03:30,766
BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN NOTICEABLE.

3960
03:03:30,766 --> 03:03:31,767
NOT FROM 20 OR 30 FEET AWAY, SO THERE

3961
03:03:31,767 --> 03:03:33,767
WILL

3962
03:03:34,770 --> 03:03:36,770
BE NO

3963
03:03:36,772 --> 03:03:37,773
NOISE IMPACTS. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER

3964
03:03:37,773 --> 03:03:39,773
COMMISSIONERS HAVE

3965
03:03:40,776 --> 03:03:42,776
QUESTIONS? >> GO AHEAD. >>

3966
03:03:42,778 --> 03:03:46,782
IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SOLAR FIELD,

3967
03:03:46,782 --> 03:03:48,784
HOW LONG WILL IT

3968
03:03:48,784 --> 03:03:49,785
TAKE, AND WHAT WILL BE THE CONDITIONS

3969
03:03:49,785 --> 03:03:51,785
FOR

3970
03:03:52,822 --> 03:03:53,823
THE PEOPLE

3971
03:03:53,823 --> 03:03:55,825
IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE IT'S BEING

3972
03:03:55,825 --> 03:03:57,825
CONSTRUCTED? >>

3973
03:03:58,828 --> 03:04:01,831
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. >> THE PROCESS WILL

3974
03:04:01,831 --> 03:04:02,832
TAKE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

3975
03:04:02,832 --> 03:04:04,800
IT'S KIND OF SEQUENCED IN. FIRST WE HAVE

3976
03:04:04,800 --> 03:04:06,802
TO BUILD A ROAD TO GET TO

3977
03:04:06,802 --> 03:04:07,803
THE SITE THAT WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS

3978
03:04:07,803 --> 03:04:09,803
ESTABLISHED BY

3979
03:04:09,805 --> 03:04:10,806
THE COUNTY , AND THE FIRE MARSHAL.

3980
03:04:10,806 --> 03:04:12,806
WE WILL

3981
03:04:13,809 --> 03:04:16,809
BUILD SOME FENCING TO SEGREGATE

3982
03:04:16,812 --> 03:04:17,813
THE HORSES

3983
03:04:17,813 --> 03:04:19,815
SO WE HAVE A SAFE CONSTRUCTION AREA, AND THEN

3984
03:04:19,815 --> 03:04:22,815
WE WILL ACTUALLY START BUILDING

3985
03:04:22,818 --> 03:04:24,818
THE ARRAYS

3986
03:04:24,820 --> 03:04:25,821
AS MUCH AS THEY ARE IN THE DIRECTIONS AND THEN

3987
03:04:25,821 --> 03:04:28,221
BRING OUT THE PANELS

3988
03:04:28,791 --> 03:04:29,792
AND DO THE ELECTRICAL WORK. THE

3989
03:04:29,792 --> 03:04:30,793
ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WILL BE ABOUT THREE

3990
03:04:30,793 --> 03:04:31,794
MONTHS PLUS ABOUT A MONTH FOR THE

3991
03:04:31,794 --> 03:04:33,794
ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

3992
03:04:37,767 --> 03:04:38,768
ALL THE TRAFFIC AND MATERIAL WILL

3993
03:04:38,768 --> 03:04:39,769
COME IN THROUGH THE EXISTING ENTRANCE OFF

3994
03:04:39,769 --> 03:04:43,773
OF RIGGS ROAD. WE WILL BE EXTENDING --

3995
03:04:43,773 --> 03:04:46,773
THERE'S A CERTAIN ROAD NOW

3996
03:04:46,776 --> 03:04:49,779
PROVIDING ACCESS FOR PEOPLE AT THE FARM TO

3997
03:04:49,779 --> 03:04:52,782
GET TO THE HORSES, AND FOR EQUIPMENT. WE

3998
03:04:52,782 --> 03:04:54,782
WILL BE EXTENDING

3999
03:04:57,787 --> 03:04:58,788
THAT ROAD DOWN TO THE SOLAR AREA.

4000
03:04:58,788 --> 03:04:59,789
SO, WE WILL MAKE SURE

4001
03:04:59,789 --> 03:05:00,790
THAT THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS DURING DAYLIGHT

4002
03:05:00,790 --> 03:05:01,791
BUSINESS HOURS AND WON'T START ANY

4003
03:05:01,791 --> 03:05:03,791
NOISEMAKING UNTIL 730,

4004
03:05:04,794 --> 03:05:07,194
OR EIGHT A.M..

4005
03:05:10,766 --> 03:05:13,766
OTHER THAN CONSTRUCTING THE ROAD,

4006
03:05:13,769 --> 03:05:16,772
THERE WILL REALLY BE NOTE THAT STORE OFF-SITE EMISSIONS THAT

4007
03:05:16,772 --> 03:05:18,772
WILL BE CREATED .

4008
03:05:19,775 --> 03:05:21,777
PROBABLY BUILDING THE ROTORS COULD BE

4009
03:05:21,777 --> 03:05:22,778
TO HAVE IS PART OF THE PROJECT. THAT

4010
03:05:22,778 --> 03:05:25,781
IS JUST BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS SOME

4011
03:05:25,781 --> 03:05:27,781
PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL

4012
03:05:27,783 --> 03:05:28,784
STANDARDS ON WHAT'S REQUIRED, SO THAT

4013
03:05:28,784 --> 03:05:31,184
WILL BE THE MOST

4014
03:05:33,789 --> 03:05:34,790
OF THE WHOLE PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT

4015
03:05:34,790 --> 03:05:36,790
MOSTLY MOUNTING THE

4016
03:05:37,793 --> 03:05:40,793
PANELS IS PRETTY START OFF

4017
03:05:40,796 --> 03:05:43,766
AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WILL GO PRETTY

4018
03:05:43,766 --> 03:05:46,166
QUICK. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>

4019
03:05:49,772 --> 03:05:52,808
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PRELIMINARY

4020
03:05:52,808 --> 03:05:55,808
PLAN? THIS IS CONDITIONAL USE? >>

4021
03:05:55,811 --> 03:05:58,211
THERE WILL NOT BE

4022
03:06:01,817 --> 03:06:02,818
A PULMONARY PLAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CORRECTIONS,

4023
03:06:02,818 --> 03:06:04,820
THERE'S NO PULMONARY PLAN NEEDED FOR

4024
03:06:04,820 --> 03:06:07,823
THIS. >> AS FAR AS CONSERVATION, WE ARE FINE

4025
03:06:07,823 --> 03:06:10,223
AND COMFORTABLE? >> THIS IS

4026
03:06:10,826 --> 03:06:12,828
THE FINAL FORCE CONSERVATION PLAN THAT

4027
03:06:12,828 --> 03:06:16,799
HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. THE STAFF PLAN WAS

4028
03:06:16,799 --> 03:06:18,799
ERRONEOUS. IT SAID

4029
03:06:18,801 --> 03:06:19,802
PRELIMINARY, IT WAS REFERRING TO THE

4030
03:06:19,802 --> 03:06:21,802
FINAL. IT

4031
03:06:22,805 --> 03:06:24,805
GOT TRUNCATED TO

4032
03:06:25,808 --> 03:06:28,811
THE WRONG ACRONYM, SO IT SAID

4033
03:06:28,811 --> 03:06:30,811
FFPP

4034
03:06:31,814 --> 03:06:33,814
IT MEETS ALL

4035
03:06:34,817 --> 03:06:35,818
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR

4036
03:06:35,818 --> 03:06:37,820
THE FINAL FORCE PLAN. >> THE ONLY

4037
03:06:37,820 --> 03:06:39,820
THING I HAVE

4038
03:06:40,823 --> 03:06:43,826
IN THE STAFF REPORT IS A CONDITIONAL USE

4039
03:06:43,826 --> 03:06:45,826
--

4040
03:06:46,829 --> 03:06:48,831
NO MENTION OF A FOREST

4041
03:06:48,831 --> 03:06:52,431
CONSERVATION PLAN. >> THERE IS A SECTION

4042
03:06:55,805 --> 03:06:56,806
IN THERE, IT'S COMBINED WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE

4043
03:06:56,806 --> 03:06:57,807
FOR THE FORCE CONSERVATION PLAN. THE

4044
03:06:57,807 --> 03:06:58,808
FORCE CONSERVATION PLAN WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE

4045
03:06:58,808 --> 03:07:01,208
THE CHANGE IN, AND

4046
03:07:01,811 --> 03:07:03,811
IT IS

4047
03:07:04,814 --> 03:07:05,815
TILL THE SAME

4048
03:07:05,815 --> 03:07:06,816
NUMBER AS THE CONDITIONAL USE NUMBER.

4049
03:07:06,816 --> 03:07:07,817
IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA AS A AB

4050
03:07:07,817 --> 03:07:09,817
ITEM. >>

4051
03:07:13,823 --> 03:07:14,824
FOR THE RECORD, THERE

4052
03:07:14,824 --> 03:07:15,825
ARE TWO SEPARATE SETS OF CONDITIONS,

4053
03:07:15,825 --> 03:07:16,826
ONE THERE IS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE

4054
03:07:16,826 --> 03:07:18,828
SENDING ONTO THE HEARING

4055
03:07:18,828 --> 03:07:19,829
EXAMINER FOR CONDITIONAL USE, THEN

4056
03:07:19,829 --> 03:07:20,830
THERE ARE THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT WE ARE

4057
03:07:20,830 --> 03:07:22,832
RECOMMENDING THAT YOU APPROVE ASSOCIATED WITH

4058
03:07:22,832 --> 03:07:24,832
THE FORCE CONSERVATION

4059
03:07:25,801 --> 03:07:28,804
PLAN. EXPECT NOW I SEE IT. I MISSED

4060
03:07:28,804 --> 03:07:30,804
IT. >>

4061
03:07:31,807 --> 03:07:33,807
WE NEED TO

4062
03:07:34,810 --> 03:07:37,210
SEPARATE APPROVALS. >> OKAY. CAN

4063
03:07:37,813 --> 03:07:40,816
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE

4064
03:07:40,816 --> 03:07:42,816
CONDITIONAL USE FOR

4065
03:07:43,819 --> 03:07:46,219
FREE REIN SOLAR FARM

4066
03:07:46,822 --> 03:07:48,822
? >>

4067
03:07:49,859 --> 03:07:51,859
WE MOVE THAT

4068
03:07:52,862 --> 03:07:55,862
WE APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE

4069
03:07:55,865 --> 03:07:58,265
. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. >>

4070
03:07:58,834 --> 03:08:01,234
OR, I THIRD IT.

4071
03:08:01,837 --> 03:08:02,838
THERE YOU GO. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

4072
03:08:02,838 --> 03:08:04,838
SAY

4073
03:08:05,841 --> 03:08:07,841
AYE. ALL RIGHT,

4074
03:08:08,844 --> 03:08:10,844
5-0.

4075
03:08:11,847 --> 03:08:14,850
I WILL TAKE A MOTION ON THE

4076
03:08:14,850 --> 03:08:17,250
FARM. THE SAME NUMBER. >>

4077
03:08:17,853 --> 03:08:20,856
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FORCE

4078
03:08:20,856 --> 03:08:22,856
CONSERVATION PLAN . >>

4079
03:08:23,859 --> 03:08:25,859
SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

4080
03:08:27,863 --> 03:08:29,865
NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN

4081
03:08:29,865 --> 03:08:31,865
FAVOR SAY AYE, >>

4082
03:08:35,838 --> 03:08:37,838
AYE.

4083
03:08:42,845 --> 03:08:43,846
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE

4084
03:08:43,846 --> 03:08:44,847
SUPPORT. >> GO FORWARD AND DO GOOD WORK.

4085
03:08:44,847 --> 03:08:45,848
>>

4086
03:08:45,848 --> 03:08:47,850
THERE YOU GO. DO YOU THINK? >> [ LAUGHTER

4087
03:08:47,850 --> 03:08:49,850
] >>

4088
03:08:56,859 --> 03:08:59,859
DO I HAVE MY DIALOGUE,

4089
03:08:59,862 --> 03:09:02,262
WE NEED A MOTION. >>

4090
03:09:02,865 --> 03:09:05,834
I WOULD LIKE A MOTION

4091
03:09:05,834 --> 03:09:08,834
FOR A CLOSED SESSION ACCORDING

4092
03:09:08,838 --> 03:09:11,238
TO MARILYN ANNOTATED CODE

4093
03:09:11,840 --> 03:09:14,240
PROVISION ARTICLE 305-BE TO

4094
03:09:14,843 --> 03:09:16,843
CONSULT WITH

4095
03:09:17,847 --> 03:09:20,847
COUNSEL AND OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE

4096
03:09:20,849 --> 03:09:22,849
ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION.

4097
03:09:23,852 --> 03:09:24,854
TOPIC,

4098
03:09:24,854 --> 03:09:29,540
STATUS OF LITIGATION. MAY HAVE A MOTION? >>

4099
03:09:29,858 --> 03:09:32,258
I MOVE THAT WE

4100
03:09:32,862 --> 03:09:34,862
ALL --[ INDISCERNIBLE -

4101
03:09:35,865 --> 03:09:37,865
OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ]

4102
03:09:45,841 --> 03:09:46,842
>> I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR

4103
03:09:46,842 --> 03:09:47,843
SAY, AYE. WE WILL GO IN CLOSED SESSION,

4104
03:09:47,843 --> 03:09:48,877
WE CAN COME BACK, I

4105
03:09:48,877 --> 03:09:50,880
THINK WE CAN DO IT IN 45 MINUTES AND COME

4106
03:09:50,880 --> 03:09:52,880
BACK AT 1:00. >>

4107
03:10:34,890 --> 03:10:35,891
[ THE EVENT IS ON A RECESS. THE SESSION WILL

4108
03:10:35,891 --> 03:10:38,894
RECONVENE AT 1:00 P.M. EST. CAPTIONER ON

4109
03:10:38,894 --> 03:10:40,894
STAND-BY ] >>

4110
03:59:02,528 --> 03:59:04,528
>>

4111
03:59:05,531 --> 03:59:07,531
GREETINGS,

4112
03:59:08,501 --> 03:59:10,503
THIS IS THE AFTERNOON SESSION, MARCH

4113
03:59:10,503 --> 03:59:11,504
30th, 2023 OF THE PLANNING BOARD THAT

4114
03:59:11,504 --> 03:59:13,504
WE ARE ON

4115
03:59:17,510 --> 03:59:19,510
THE

4116
03:59:20,546 --> 03:59:22,546
GEORGE AVENUE

4117
03:59:23,516 --> 03:59:25,916
SKETCH PLAN, AND WE

4118
03:59:26,519 --> 03:59:29,522
ARE STARTING OFF WITH THE FIRST PITCH

4119
03:59:29,522 --> 03:59:31,522
BY THE STAFF.

4120
03:59:32,525 --> 03:59:34,925
IT BEING APPROPRIATE, BECAUSE

4121
03:59:35,528 --> 03:59:37,528
THE FIRST

4122
03:59:39,532 --> 03:59:40,533
PITCH WILL BE THROWN OTHER PLACES.

4123
03:59:40,533 --> 03:59:41,500
WE WILL HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION, FIRST.

4124
03:59:41,500 --> 03:59:43,900
THEN WE WILL HAVE

4125
03:59:44,503 --> 03:59:47,506
PEOPLE WANTED TO TESTIFY IN PERSON, AND

4126
03:59:47,506 --> 03:59:49,508
THE PEOPLE TESTIFYING TEAMS,

4127
03:59:49,508 --> 03:59:53,512
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT

4128
03:59:53,512 --> 03:59:55,512
FINISH UP. >>

4129
03:59:56,515 --> 03:59:57,516
SO

4130
03:59:57,516 --> 03:59:59,518
STAFF WILL GIVE US OUR PRESENTATION.

4131
03:59:59,518 --> 04:00:01,518
>> GOOD AFTERNOON

4132
04:00:02,521 --> 04:00:03,522
, FOR THE RECORD, AMY

4133
04:00:03,522 --> 04:00:05,524
LIZZIE WITH COUNTY PLANNING, AND HAPPY I

4134
04:00:05,524 --> 04:00:07,524
THINK IT'S

4135
04:00:08,527 --> 04:00:11,530
OPENING DAY IS WHAT YOU ARE REFERENCING? OKAY, GOT THAT. GOOD

4136
04:00:11,530 --> 04:00:13,530
>> GOOD LUCK

4137
04:00:14,500 --> 04:00:17,500
, CAPS. >> SO AS I SAID

4138
04:00:17,503 --> 04:00:19,505
FOR THE RECORD AMY LINDSEY

4139
04:00:19,505 --> 04:00:23,105
WITH MID COUNTY PLANNING HERE FOR

4140
04:00:23,509 --> 04:00:25,909
2% 9801 GEORGIA AVENUE SKETCH PLAN

4141
04:00:26,512 --> 04:00:28,512
NUMBER THREE -

4142
04:00:29,515 --> 04:00:31,515
20230020.

4143
04:00:35,521 --> 04:00:36,522
AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF

4144
04:00:36,522 --> 04:00:37,523
PARTICIPATION BY THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU

4145
04:00:37,523 --> 04:00:38,524
ALL SO MUCH FOR LETTING YOUR VOTES

4146
04:00:38,524 --> 04:00:40,924
IS BE KNOWN, AND

4147
04:00:41,527 --> 04:00:43,529
PARTICIPATING HERE. THIS IS THE WAY

4148
04:00:43,529 --> 04:00:44,530
IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. SO WE ARE HAPPY

4149
04:00:44,530 --> 04:00:46,530
TO HAVE

4150
04:00:47,500 --> 04:00:49,500
PARTICIPATION PARTICULARLY AT

4151
04:00:50,503 --> 04:00:54,103
THIS EARLY STAGE OF THE PROCESS. >>

4152
04:00:57,510 --> 04:00:59,512
JUST TO SAY IT UP FRONT

4153
04:00:59,512 --> 04:01:02,512
, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS

4154
04:01:03,516 --> 04:01:05,916
OF SKETCH PLAN NUMBER 320

4155
04:01:06,519 --> 04:01:08,519
230020,

4156
04:01:09,522 --> 04:01:11,522
AND

4157
04:01:12,525 --> 04:01:14,525
IS MODIFIED HEREIN.

4158
04:01:15,528 --> 04:01:16,529
BRIEFLY

4159
04:01:16,529 --> 04:01:17,530
TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHAT

4160
04:01:17,530 --> 04:01:18,531
A SKETCH PLAN IS, AND WHERE WE ARE

4161
04:01:18,531 --> 04:01:19,565
IN THE

4162
04:01:19,565 --> 04:01:21,534
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THIS IS THE EARLIEST STAGE

4163
04:01:21,534 --> 04:01:23,534
OF THE

4164
04:01:24,537 --> 04:01:25,538
DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. AND,

4165
04:01:25,538 --> 04:01:27,540
THIS IS REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO

4166
04:01:27,540 --> 04:01:29,540
GIVE THE APPLICANT

4167
04:01:30,543 --> 04:01:32,545
EARLY FEEDBACK. SO, WE

4168
04:01:32,545 --> 04:01:33,546
ARE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE RECEIVED SO

4169
04:01:33,546 --> 04:01:35,546
MUCH

4170
04:01:35,548 --> 04:01:36,549
FEEDBACK, AND TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

4171
04:01:36,549 --> 04:01:38,549
HERE. BECAUSE,

4172
04:01:39,552 --> 04:01:42,555
THIS IS REALLY THE TIME TO

4173
04:01:42,555 --> 04:01:45,555
GET ALL ISSUES OUT ON

4174
04:01:45,558 --> 04:01:47,558
THE TABLE.

4175
04:01:48,561 --> 04:01:50,563
AND JUST TO GO

4176
04:01:50,563 --> 04:01:54,763
OVER WHAT A SKETCH PLAN ACTUALLY APPROVES.

4177
04:01:56,535 --> 04:01:58,537
THIS IS THE LIST OF WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY APPROVING.

4178
04:01:58,537 --> 04:02:00,539
NOW WE KNOW THE PLANS GO INTO GREATER DETAIL

4179
04:02:00,539 --> 04:02:02,541
A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS ARE ILLUSTRATIVE.

4180
04:02:02,541 --> 04:02:06,141
AND WE MAY HAVE CONDITIONS POINTING

4181
04:02:09,548 --> 04:02:11,948
TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ,

4182
04:02:12,551 --> 04:02:14,553
HOW THESE ITEMS SHOULD

4183
04:02:14,553 --> 04:02:15,554
BE ARTICULATED. BUT, REALLY WHAT WE

4184
04:02:15,554 --> 04:02:17,554
ARE

4185
04:02:18,557 --> 04:02:20,559
LOOKING AT OUR MAXIMUM DENSITY AND

4186
04:02:20,559 --> 04:02:23,559
HEIGHT, THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF

4187
04:02:24,563 --> 04:02:26,563
LOTS OF

4188
04:02:26,565 --> 04:02:27,566
PUBLIC DEDICATION, THE GENERAL LOCATION

4189
04:02:27,566 --> 04:02:30,536
AND THE EXTENT OF THE

4190
04:02:30,536 --> 04:02:32,538
PUBLIC SPACE, THE GENERAL

4191
04:02:32,538 --> 04:02:33,539
LOCATION OF THE NUCLEAR ACCESS POINTS,

4192
04:02:33,539 --> 04:02:35,539
AND

4193
04:02:36,542 --> 04:02:38,542
UPON THE

4194
04:02:39,545 --> 04:02:41,545
PUBLIC

4195
04:02:41,547 --> 04:02:42,548
BENEFIT SCHEDULE. LIKE I SAID, ALL

4196
04:02:42,548 --> 04:02:44,548
OTHER ELEMENTS ARE

4197
04:02:45,551 --> 04:02:46,552
ILLUSTRATIVE OF

4198
04:02:46,552 --> 04:02:47,553
TO BE DEFINED AS WE MOVE FORWARD,

4199
04:02:47,553 --> 04:02:48,554
JUST TO GO OVER REALLY QUICKLY WHAT

4200
04:02:48,554 --> 04:02:50,554
HAPPENS IN THE

4201
04:02:51,557 --> 04:02:53,559
NEXT STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT, SO

4202
04:02:53,559 --> 04:02:54,560
THIS PLAN WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE

4203
04:02:54,560 --> 04:02:56,560
PRELIMINARY PLAN

4204
04:02:56,562 --> 04:02:59,565
PROCESS WHICH IS SET UP FOR THE SUBDIVISION

4205
04:02:59,565 --> 04:03:00,566
OF LOTS. THAT IS WHEN DEDICATION HAPPENS,

4206
04:03:00,566 --> 04:03:02,566
THAT IS

4207
04:03:03,536 --> 04:03:05,536
WHEN ENTITLEMENT INCURS.

4208
04:03:06,539 --> 04:03:07,540
THAT IS WHEN WE DO THE ADEQUATE

4209
04:03:07,540 --> 04:03:09,542
PUBLIC FACILITIES FINDINGS, WHERE WE

4210
04:03:09,542 --> 04:03:11,542
ARE LOOKING AT

4211
04:03:12,545 --> 04:03:14,547
OUR SCHOOL CAPACITY AS

4212
04:03:14,547 --> 04:03:17,547
WELL AS OUR TRANSPORTATION STUDIES.

4213
04:03:18,584 --> 04:03:21,584
THAT IS WHEN REGULATORY PROCESS,

4214
04:03:21,587 --> 04:03:23,587
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL

4215
04:03:23,589 --> 04:03:26,589
REVIEW BEGINS WITH THE PRELIMINARY

4216
04:03:27,593 --> 04:03:29,593
PLAN. >>

4217
04:03:33,599 --> 04:03:34,567
MOVING ON TO THE SITE PLAN.

4218
04:03:34,567 --> 04:03:35,568
THAT IS WHEN WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE

4219
04:03:35,568 --> 04:03:36,569
DETAILED VIEW OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. WE

4220
04:03:36,569 --> 04:03:38,569
WILL

4221
04:03:38,571 --> 04:03:39,572
GET INTO THE DESIGN OF THE OPEN SPACE. SOMETIMES

4222
04:03:39,572 --> 04:03:41,572
IN

4223
04:03:42,575 --> 04:03:44,975
EXCRUCIATING DETAIL LOOKING AT

4224
04:03:46,579 --> 04:03:48,581
SITE FURNITURE, PARKING NUMBERS, CIRCULATION,

4225
04:03:48,581 --> 04:03:50,583
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOT

4226
04:03:50,583 --> 04:03:53,586
A.D.A. ACCESS, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT

4227
04:03:53,586 --> 04:03:56,586
IS MEETING ALL ZONING REQUIREMENTS

4228
04:03:57,590 --> 04:04:00,590
AND THAT IS WHEN THE

4229
04:04:00,593 --> 04:04:01,594
FINAL CONSERVATION PLAN IS

4230
04:04:01,594 --> 04:04:03,596
APPROVED. SO I JUST WANT TO SET THE

4231
04:04:03,596 --> 04:04:05,596
TABLE THAT

4232
04:04:09,568 --> 04:04:10,569
AT EACH ONE OF

4233
04:04:10,569 --> 04:04:11,570
THESE STAGES THERE WILL ALSO BE A

4234
04:04:11,570 --> 04:04:12,571
PUBLIC HEARING, AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. SO, NO ONE THINKS

4235
04:04:12,571 --> 04:04:14,571
THAT THIS HEARING

4236
04:04:15,574 --> 04:04:17,574
IS IT

4237
04:04:17,576 --> 04:04:18,577
, SHOVELS ARE IN THE GROUND. IN FACT, THIS

4238
04:04:18,577 --> 04:04:19,578
IS JUST THE START, AND

4239
04:04:19,578 --> 04:04:21,580
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ALL THE WAY

4240
04:04:21,580 --> 04:04:23,580
ALONG. >>

4241
04:04:24,583 --> 04:04:27,586
I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP

4242
04:04:27,586 --> 04:04:28,587
, AS A

4243
04:04:28,587 --> 04:04:30,589
PRELIMINARY MATTER, A SIGNAGE ISSUE THAT

4244
04:04:30,589 --> 04:04:34,189
HAS BEEN RAISED. SO THE APPLICANT'S

4245
04:04:35,594 --> 04:04:39,194
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING SIGNS, THE APPLICATION SIGNS,

4246
04:04:41,567 --> 04:04:42,568
NOT THE APPLICATION SIGNS, BUT THE PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING SIGNS WERE 30

4247
04:04:42,568 --> 04:04:44,568
1/2 INCHES BY 40

4248
04:04:45,571 --> 04:04:47,573
2 INCHES. AND THEY WERE POSTED 25

4249
04:04:47,573 --> 04:04:48,574
INCHES FROM THE GROUND. THE GUIDANCE

4250
04:04:48,574 --> 04:04:50,574
IS A

4251
04:04:51,577 --> 04:04:54,580
LITTLE FUZZY IN THAT IT SAYS

4252
04:04:54,580 --> 04:04:56,580
THAT PRE-APPLICATION

4253
04:04:57,583 --> 04:05:00,583
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING SIGNAGE NEEDS TO

4254
04:05:00,586 --> 04:05:02,586
BE EQUIVALENT

4255
04:05:03,589 --> 04:05:05,589
I WILL SAY

4256
04:05:11,597 --> 04:05:12,598
THAT THE APPLICATION SIGNS WERE CORRECTLY SIZED

4257
04:05:12,598 --> 04:05:15,568
AND PLACED ON NOVEMBER 2nd PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION BEING ACCEPTED

4258
04:05:15,568 --> 04:05:18,604
ON NOVEMBER 16 AND THAT THERE WAS A

4259
04:05:18,604 --> 04:05:21,400
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING HELD ON

4260
04:05:24,610 --> 04:05:26,612
SEPTEMBER 22nd, AND THE APPLICANT WAS

4261
04:05:26,612 --> 04:05:30,616
INFORMED OF THAT ISSUE AT THE TIME, AND

4262
04:05:30,616 --> 04:05:32,616
WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT

4263
04:05:33,619 --> 04:05:36,622
THE PLANNING BOARD MAY HAVE CONCERNS

4264
04:05:36,622 --> 04:05:39,220
ABOUT THAT. THERE WERE

4265
04:05:41,627 --> 04:05:42,628
APPROXIMATELY 71 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE

4266
04:05:42,628 --> 04:05:44,628
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING.

4267
04:05:45,631 --> 04:05:48,310
BUT THE APPLICATION ITSELF,

4268
04:05:48,601 --> 04:05:51,601
WAS PROPERLY POSTED AND NOTICED.

4269
04:05:51,604 --> 04:05:53,604
AND ALL OTHER

4270
04:05:54,607 --> 04:05:57,607
NOTICING REQUIREMENTS FROM THAT PRE-SUBMITTAL

4271
04:05:57,610 --> 04:06:00,100
MEETING WERE PROPERLY FULFILLED.

4272
04:06:00,613 --> 04:06:03,613
IT WAS THE SIGNAGE THAT

4273
04:06:03,616 --> 04:06:06,616
WAS POSTED THAT WAS UNDERSIZED. >>

4274
04:06:09,622 --> 04:06:12,625
SO MOVING ON TO THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

4275
04:06:12,625 --> 04:06:15,628
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

4276
04:06:15,628 --> 04:06:18,631
THE COMMUNITY CONTEXT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S

4277
04:06:18,631 --> 04:06:21,600
VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS APPLICATION. THIS APPLICATION IS

4278
04:06:21,600 --> 04:06:24,603
DIFFERENT FROM MANY APPLICATIONS RIGHT IN

4279
04:06:24,603 --> 04:06:26,603
THE CITY,

4280
04:06:28,607 --> 04:06:30,609
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING

4281
04:06:30,609 --> 04:06:32,611
PARTS INVOLVED HERE, MANY OF WHICH ARE NOT CONTROLLED BY THE

4282
04:06:32,611 --> 04:06:33,612
APPLICANT. SO, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED

4283
04:06:33,612 --> 04:06:35,612
AT THE CORNER

4284
04:06:36,615 --> 04:06:39,618
OF GEORGIA AVENUE AND FORCE GLEN

4285
04:06:39,618 --> 04:06:42,618
ROAD. AND ALSO, FRONT ONTO

4286
04:06:42,621 --> 04:06:44,621
WOODLAND DRIVE. >>

4287
04:06:45,624 --> 04:06:49,224
IT IS APPROXIMATELY A BLOCK NORTH

4288
04:06:50,629 --> 04:06:51,630
OF THE BELTWAY INTERCHANGE WITH GEORGE

4289
04:06:51,630 --> 04:06:53,630
AVENUE. >> WE HAVE

4290
04:06:54,600 --> 04:06:58,200
A NUMBER OF PROJECTS GOING ON

4291
04:06:59,605 --> 04:07:01,607
IN THIS AREA, WHICH WE WILL GET INTO FURTHER

4292
04:07:01,607 --> 04:07:02,608
DETAILS ABOUT, BUT THEY

4293
04:07:02,608 --> 04:07:04,610
INCLUDE, STATE HIGHWAYS ADMINISTRATION PROJECT

4294
04:07:04,610 --> 04:07:06,610
ON

4295
04:07:06,612 --> 04:07:09,612
GEORGIA AVENUE TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN

4296
04:07:10,616 --> 04:07:12,618
AND BICYCLE SAFETY, AS

4297
04:07:12,618 --> 04:07:13,619
WELL AS OVERALL FUNCTION . WE HAVE

4298
04:07:13,619 --> 04:07:15,619
THE

4299
04:07:15,621 --> 04:07:18,210
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S FOREST

4300
04:07:19,658 --> 04:07:22,580
GLEN ROAD SIDEWALK PROJECT

4301
04:07:22,661 --> 04:07:25,664
, AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT OF

4302
04:07:25,664 --> 04:07:28,640
TRANSPORTATION'S PROJECT TO ADD

4303
04:07:28,634 --> 04:07:29,635
AN ENTRANCE

4304
04:07:29,635 --> 04:07:33,835
TO THE METRO STATION ON THAT CORNER

4305
04:07:35,641 --> 04:07:36,642
OF GEORGIA AVENUE. SO THERE ARE A

4306
04:07:36,642 --> 04:07:37,643
LOT OF MOVING PIECES INVOLVED HERE

4307
04:07:37,643 --> 04:07:39,643
WITH SOME

4308
04:07:40,646 --> 04:07:42,646
POTENTIAL CHANGES

4309
04:07:42,648 --> 04:07:43,649
IN FRONTAGES ON THIS ROAD. BUT AS I

4310
04:07:43,649 --> 04:07:44,650
SAID, MUCH OF

4311
04:07:44,650 --> 04:07:46,652
THOSE ARE NOT UNDER CONTROL OF THE

4312
04:07:46,652 --> 04:07:48,652
APPLICANT. >>

4313
04:07:49,655 --> 04:07:50,656
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT BACKS

4314
04:07:50,656 --> 04:07:52,658
UP TO A PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AREA

4315
04:07:52,658 --> 04:07:54,658
, BUT ACROSS

4316
04:07:55,661 --> 04:07:57,661
THE STREET

4317
04:07:58,664 --> 04:08:00,664
AS PART

4318
04:08:01,633 --> 04:08:03,635
OF AMERICANA CONDOMINIUMS, UC

4319
04:08:03,635 --> 04:08:04,636
THE FORCE GLEN METRO STATION VERY,

4320
04:08:04,636 --> 04:08:07,360
VERY CLOSE TO THIS

4321
04:08:07,639 --> 04:08:08,640
PROPERTY. >>

4322
04:08:08,640 --> 04:08:10,642
ZOOMING IN A BIT, I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO

4323
04:08:10,642 --> 04:08:12,644
SOME OF THE ROADS THAT

4324
04:08:12,644 --> 04:08:15,647
WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IN THIS APPLICATION.

4325
04:08:15,647 --> 04:08:16,648
IT INCLUDES SHERWOOD DRIVE, MYRTLE

4326
04:08:16,648 --> 04:08:19,480
ROAD, AND WE HAVE

4327
04:08:19,651 --> 04:08:22,510
FORCE GLEN ROAD, GEORGIAN

4328
04:08:22,654 --> 04:08:24,654
AVENUE OF COURSE,

4329
04:08:24,656 --> 04:08:28,256
SANFORD DRIVE, AND ONCE AGAIN THE

4330
04:08:29,661 --> 04:08:31,630
PLACEMENT OF THE FORCE GLEN METRO

4331
04:08:31,630 --> 04:08:32,631
STATION. >> THE PROPERTY ITSELF

4332
04:08:32,631 --> 04:08:34,633
IS THREE POINT 97 ACRES. CURRENTLY

4333
04:08:34,633 --> 04:08:36,633
IT HOUSES

4334
04:08:37,603 --> 04:08:40,300
A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.

4335
04:08:40,606 --> 04:08:41,607
IN JESUS

4336
04:08:41,607 --> 04:08:46,407
ARE ON GEORGIA AVENUE AND FORCE GLEN ROAD.

4337
04:08:47,613 --> 04:08:48,614
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 0.43 ACRES

4338
04:08:48,614 --> 04:08:51,617
OF FOREST AT THE NORTHERN PORTION.

4339
04:08:51,617 --> 04:08:53,619
THESE ARE SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL LOTS,

4340
04:08:53,619 --> 04:08:54,620
WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS

4341
04:08:54,620 --> 04:08:58,624
WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY

4342
04:08:58,624 --> 04:08:59,625
PLAN PROCESS. IT WOULD HAVE TO GO

4343
04:08:59,625 --> 04:09:03,225
THROUGH IT ANYWAY FOR ENTITLEMENTS, BUT

4344
04:09:03,629 --> 04:09:07,633
THE CONSOLIDATION PLOTS WILL BE ONE OF

4345
04:09:07,633 --> 04:09:10,602
THE THINGS. I'VE MARKED ON

4346
04:09:10,602 --> 04:09:12,602
THIS AERIAL,

4347
04:09:22,648 --> 04:09:23,649
SOME OF THE TYPOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. BECAUSE

4348
04:09:23,649 --> 04:09:24,650
WHEN WE PRESENT PLANS LIKE THIS, IT

4349
04:09:24,650 --> 04:09:25,651
ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE FLAT, BUT THEY

4350
04:09:25,651 --> 04:09:26,652
ARE NOT. SO, WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY

4351
04:09:26,652 --> 04:09:28,654
20 FEET IN TOPOGRAPHIC CHANGE FROM

4352
04:09:28,654 --> 04:09:30,654
GEORGIA AVENUE TO

4353
04:09:31,657 --> 04:09:33,657
WOODLAND DRIVE.

4354
04:09:38,664 --> 04:09:39,665
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE ONE

4355
04:09:39,665 --> 04:09:40,666
OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT

4356
04:09:40,666 --> 04:09:41,633
IS COMPATIBILITY ALONG WOODLAND

4357
04:09:41,633 --> 04:09:42,634
DRIVE. SO IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT,

4358
04:09:42,634 --> 04:09:43,635
WE WERE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OTHER STANDPOINT,

4359
04:09:43,635 --> 04:09:45,635
FOR

4360
04:09:46,638 --> 04:09:49,641
EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT

4361
04:09:49,641 --> 04:09:51,641
GEORGIA AVENUE

4362
04:09:52,644 --> 04:09:54,644
,

4363
04:09:57,649 --> 04:09:58,650
COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE EASIER TO ACHIEVE ALONG

4364
04:09:58,650 --> 04:09:59,651
WOODLAND DRIVE

4365
04:09:59,651 --> 04:10:00,652
BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER ELEVATION, YOU

4366
04:10:00,652 --> 04:10:01,653
COULD HAVE A TALLER BUILDING ALONG

4367
04:10:01,653 --> 04:10:03,653
GEORGIA AVENUE.

4368
04:10:07,659 --> 04:10:10,662
BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU A GENERAL ORIENTATION

4369
04:10:10,662 --> 04:10:13,665
TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. >> THE PROPOSAL

4370
04:10:13,665 --> 04:10:15,634
IS FOR

4371
04:10:15,634 --> 04:10:18,340
460,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT.

4372
04:10:22,641 --> 04:10:23,642
PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, 455,000

4373
04:10:23,642 --> 04:10:26,642
SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOP

4374
04:10:27,646 --> 04:10:31,650
. RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY

4375
04:10:31,650 --> 04:10:34,653
415 UNITS, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT GETS REFINED

4376
04:10:34,653 --> 04:10:37,653
THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.

4377
04:10:37,656 --> 04:10:39,656
>>

4378
04:10:42,661 --> 04:10:43,662
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 5000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND

4379
04:10:43,662 --> 04:10:44,663
WE

4380
04:10:44,663 --> 04:10:46,665
ARE LOOKING AT A MAXIMUM OF 80 FEET

4381
04:10:46,665 --> 04:10:50,265
IN HEIGHT JUST SORT OF REGULATING

4382
04:10:52,638 --> 04:10:54,638
, WE'VE GOT

4383
04:10:55,641 --> 04:10:56,642
THIS AS ALL ONE BUILDING. THAT IS TO BE

4384
04:10:56,642 --> 04:10:58,644
THE MAJOR FOCUS OF OUR CONVERSATION.

4385
04:10:58,644 --> 04:11:01,644
WE'VE GOT AN ENTRANCE ON

4386
04:11:01,647 --> 04:11:04,650
GEORGIA AVENUE THAT IS SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH

4387
04:11:04,650 --> 04:11:07,653
OF THE CURRENT GEORGIA AVENUE ENTRANCE

4388
04:11:07,653 --> 04:11:09,653
. STATE HIGHWAYS GENERALLY

4389
04:11:10,656 --> 04:11:12,656
WILL NOT

4390
04:11:18,697 --> 04:11:19,698
AGREE TO THOSE, BUT IN THIS CASE DID AGREE

4391
04:11:19,698 --> 04:11:20,699
TO AN ENTRANCE ON GEORGIA AVENUE. NO

4392
04:11:20,699 --> 04:11:21,667
ACCESS TO FORCE GLEN ROAD, BUT WE

4393
04:11:21,667 --> 04:11:22,668
DO HAVE AN ENTRANCE ON WOODLAND DRIVE.

4394
04:11:22,668 --> 04:11:24,668
>> THE BUILDING

4395
04:11:25,671 --> 04:11:28,674
WRAPS AROUND A PARKING STRUCTURE THAT

4396
04:11:28,674 --> 04:11:31,674
WILL BE FULLY LAPSED, SO

4397
04:11:31,677 --> 04:11:33,679
NOT VISIBLE, AT ALL. AND THEN THERE'S

4398
04:11:33,679 --> 04:11:37,879
ALSO A COURTYARD WHICH REGULATES THE DESIGN

4399
04:11:40,686 --> 04:11:42,688
OF THE SOUTHERN CHUNK OF THE BUILDING. >>

4400
04:11:42,688 --> 04:11:46,692
ON THE NORTH SIDE, WE'VE GOT A THROUGH

4401
04:11:46,692 --> 04:11:48,692
LOCK CONNECTION FOR

4402
04:11:51,697 --> 04:11:52,698
EASY ACCESS TO GEORGIA AVENUE FROM

4403
04:11:52,698 --> 04:11:54,700
THE PEDESTRIAN AS WELL AS BICYCLE STANDPOINT.

4404
04:11:54,700 --> 04:11:58,670
THEN WE'VE GOT A MAJOR OPEN SPACE

4405
04:11:58,670 --> 04:12:00,670
ON THE FORCE

4406
04:12:01,673 --> 04:12:03,673
GLEN ROAD FACE.

4407
04:12:04,676 --> 04:12:07,760
AND YOU CAN SEE

4408
04:12:07,679 --> 04:12:10,682
THE METRO INTEREST HERE ON THE CORNER. >>

4409
04:12:10,682 --> 04:12:13,685
THE LOBBY, HOWEVER, WILL BE LOCATED ON

4410
04:12:13,685 --> 04:12:14,686
THE GEORGIA AVENUE

4411
04:12:14,686 --> 04:12:16,688
FRONTAGE, AND THE COMMERCIAL AREA

4412
04:12:16,688 --> 04:12:20,288
WOULD BE LOCATED AT THIS SOUTH

4413
04:12:21,693 --> 04:12:22,694
WEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING RIGHT

4414
04:12:22,694 --> 04:12:24,694
AT THE GEORGIA

4415
04:12:25,697 --> 04:12:28,667
AVENUE FORCE GLEN ROAD, SO IT REALLY IS

4416
04:12:28,667 --> 04:12:31,670
TO BE SPEAKING TO

4417
04:12:31,670 --> 04:12:33,670
THAT METRO

4418
04:12:34,673 --> 04:12:36,673
GLEN ENTRANCE. >>

4419
04:12:37,676 --> 04:12:40,679
AS I ALLUDED, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES HERE.

4420
04:12:40,679 --> 04:12:42,681
SO LOOKING AT CIRCULATION AND TRANSPORTATION, IT

4421
04:12:42,681 --> 04:12:43,682
SHOWS THE FORCE GLEN PASSAGEWAY THAT

4422
04:12:43,682 --> 04:12:45,682
THE COUNTY

4423
04:12:47,686 --> 04:12:50,686
WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THAT IS

4424
04:12:50,689 --> 04:12:52,689
IN PROCESS

4425
04:12:53,692 --> 04:12:55,692
OF DESIGN. WE

4426
04:12:56,695 --> 04:12:58,695
HAVE HAD

4427
04:13:00,699 --> 04:13:01,667
A MANDATORY REFERRAL ON THIS ALREADY, THERE

4428
04:13:01,667 --> 04:13:02,667
HAS BEEN A LOT OF COORDINATION ON THIS

4429
04:13:02,667 --> 04:13:03,668
PROJECT AND IT

4430
04:13:03,668 --> 04:13:05,670
SHOWS OUT RELATES TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

4431
04:13:05,670 --> 04:13:07,670
WE HOPE WE'LL

4432
04:13:13,712 --> 04:13:14,713
BE SEEING A MAJOR SYNTHESIS HERE,

4433
04:13:14,713 --> 04:13:15,714
WE ARE ADDING DENSITY

4434
04:13:15,714 --> 04:13:20,514
AT THE CORNER WITH A METRO STATION ENTRANCE.

4435
04:13:20,719 --> 04:13:23,722
THIS SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE

4436
04:13:23,722 --> 04:13:25,722
MONTGOMERY HOLDS MARYLAND

4437
04:13:26,725 --> 04:13:28,725
97 DESIGN PROJECT WHICH

4438
04:13:29,728 --> 04:13:30,729
I SAID IS A STATE HIGHWAYS

4439
04:13:30,729 --> 04:13:32,731
PROJECT, AND IT IS RESPONDING TO A

4440
04:13:32,731 --> 04:13:35,731
REAL NEED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY

4441
04:13:38,703 --> 04:13:39,704
AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA,

4442
04:13:39,704 --> 04:13:41,706
AS WELL AS VEHICULAR SAFETY . JUST

4443
04:13:41,706 --> 04:13:43,706
ACKNOWLEDGING UPFRONT,

4444
04:13:44,709 --> 04:13:47,709
THAT THE GEORGIA AVENUE FORCE

4445
04:13:47,712 --> 04:13:49,712
GLEN ROAD INTERSECTION

4446
04:13:50,715 --> 04:13:53,115
HAS BEEN THE SITE

4447
04:13:53,718 --> 04:13:56,718
OF A NUMBER OF CRASHES,

4448
04:13:56,721 --> 04:13:57,722
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE

4449
04:13:57,722 --> 04:14:01,322
REASONS WHY STATE HIGHWAYS ADMINISTRATION IS

4450
04:14:02,727 --> 04:14:04,727
PROPOSING SOLUTIONS TO

4451
04:14:05,730 --> 04:14:07,730
THIS. >>

4452
04:14:08,700 --> 04:14:10,700
THIS SHOWS THE

4453
04:14:11,703 --> 04:14:13,703
FOREST GLEN

4454
04:14:13,705 --> 04:14:14,706
ROADWAY SIDEWALKS FACILITY THAT HER

4455
04:14:14,706 --> 04:14:16,706
OWN

4456
04:14:17,709 --> 04:14:19,709
BUT APARTMENT

4457
04:14:25,717 --> 04:14:29,317
DISCUSSION ITEMS HAVE BEEN PREVIEWED PREVIOUSLY.

4458
04:14:29,721 --> 04:14:31,721
AND

4459
04:14:31,723 --> 04:14:32,724
THIS ITEM WILL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH

4460
04:14:32,724 --> 04:14:33,725
ALL OF THESE

4461
04:14:33,725 --> 04:14:35,727
PROJECTS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. ONCE AGAIN

4462
04:14:35,727 --> 04:14:36,728
SPEAKING TO

4463
04:14:36,728 --> 04:14:39,128
THE CIRCULATION AND TRANSPORTATION

4464
04:14:41,733 --> 04:14:43,702
OF

4465
04:14:43,702 --> 04:14:44,703
GEORGIA AVENUE ENTRANCE WILL BE A

4466
04:14:44,703 --> 04:14:45,704
RIDE IN

4467
04:14:45,704 --> 04:14:47,706
RIGHT OUT INTEREST BECAUSE THERE IS

4468
04:14:47,706 --> 04:14:48,707
A BARRIER HERE, THERE

4469
04:14:48,707 --> 04:14:50,709
IS A CONCRETE CURB IN THE MIDDLE OF

4470
04:14:50,709 --> 04:14:52,709
I GUESS

4471
04:14:55,714 --> 04:14:56,715
A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, IN THE MIDDLE

4472
04:14:56,715 --> 04:14:58,715
OF GEORGIA AVENUE.

4473
04:14:59,718 --> 04:15:01,718
WOODLAND

4474
04:15:06,725 --> 04:15:07,726
DRIVE IS TO BE A FULL MOVEMENT ENTRANCE. THERE

4475
04:15:07,726 --> 04:15:08,727
WILL BE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ON

4476
04:15:08,727 --> 04:15:10,729
ALL FRONTAGES. WOODLAND DRIVE

4477
04:15:10,729 --> 04:15:11,763
HAS BEEN FLAGGED AS BEING A GREEN

4478
04:15:11,763 --> 04:15:14,163
WAY FOR CYCLISTS AND

4479
04:15:14,766 --> 04:15:17,736
THAT MEANS THAT IT IS AN ON

4480
04:15:17,736 --> 04:15:20,739
STREET FACILITY. THIS IS NOT A SEPARATE

4481
04:15:20,739 --> 04:15:23,742
BIKEWAY. IT IS AN ON STREET

4482
04:15:23,742 --> 04:15:25,742
FACILITY. >>

4483
04:15:26,745 --> 04:15:29,748
YOU CAN SEE ONCE AGAIN, THIS

4484
04:15:29,748 --> 04:15:31,748
THREE PLOT

4485
04:15:31,750 --> 04:15:32,751
CONNECTION WILL ALLOW FOR FASTER ACCESS

4486
04:15:32,751 --> 04:15:34,751
TO THE

4487
04:15:35,754 --> 04:15:37,754
BUS STOPS

4488
04:15:38,757 --> 04:15:40,759
, AS WELL AS ANOTHER

4489
04:15:40,759 --> 04:15:44,763
WAY TO GET TO THE METRO ENTRANCE. >>

4490
04:15:44,763 --> 04:15:47,763
JUST TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH

4491
04:15:47,766 --> 04:15:51,366
THIS AREA, THIS IS LOOKING FROM

4492
04:15:51,736 --> 04:15:53,738
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE,

4493
04:15:53,738 --> 04:15:56,138
AND YOU ARE LOOKING

4494
04:15:56,741 --> 04:15:59,141
DOWN WOODLAND DRIVE TOWARD

4495
04:15:59,744 --> 04:16:01,744
FOREST GLEN

4496
04:16:02,747 --> 04:16:05,750
ROAD. ON YOUR KEY, THAT IS LOOKING,

4497
04:16:05,750 --> 04:16:07,750
THIS WAY. B,

4498
04:16:08,753 --> 04:16:09,754
IS

4499
04:16:09,754 --> 04:16:11,756
SHERWOOD ROAD. YOU CAN SEE HOW NARROW

4500
04:16:11,756 --> 04:16:13,758
IT IS AND WHAT THE PASSAGE WAY

4501
04:16:13,758 --> 04:16:17,762
LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU'VE GOT STREET PARKING

4502
04:16:17,762 --> 04:16:19,762
. AND,

4503
04:16:20,765 --> 04:16:23,165
MYRTLE ROAD WHICH IS

4504
04:16:23,735 --> 04:16:26,135
ALSO FAIRLY NARROW ROAD

4505
04:16:32,744 --> 04:16:34,744
. >> THE WOODLAND FRONTAGE

4506
04:16:35,747 --> 04:16:37,749
WOULD BE IMPROVED TO ADD

4507
04:16:37,749 --> 04:16:38,750
PARALLEL PARKING WHICH WILL HELP SERVE

4508
04:16:38,750 --> 04:16:40,750
TO REDUCE VEHICULAR

4509
04:16:41,753 --> 04:16:44,753
SPEEDS. >> YOU CAN SEE THE

4510
04:16:44,756 --> 04:16:46,758
PROJECT SITE IS OVER HERE, SO WE WILL

4511
04:16:46,758 --> 04:16:47,759
HAVE A SIDEWALK WITH A NICE BUFFER

4512
04:16:47,759 --> 04:16:49,759
, AND THEN

4513
04:16:50,762 --> 04:16:53,162
PARALLEL PARKING, AND TO

4514
04:16:53,765 --> 04:16:55,765
TRAVEL LANES. >>

4515
04:16:56,735 --> 04:16:57,736
IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL

4516
04:16:57,736 --> 04:16:59,738
BE A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, HOWEVER,

4517
04:16:59,738 --> 04:17:01,738
THIS IS LOCATED

4518
04:17:01,740 --> 04:17:02,741
IN A RED POLICY AREA, WHICH MEANS THAT

4519
04:17:02,741 --> 04:17:04,741
THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY

4520
04:17:05,744 --> 04:17:07,744
WILL HAVE A

4521
04:17:07,746 --> 04:17:11,946
MULTIMODAL FOCUS. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT

4522
04:17:13,785 --> 04:17:14,786
OUR PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, BICYCLE

4523
04:17:14,786 --> 04:17:16,786
FACILITIES, OUR

4524
04:17:17,789 --> 04:17:20,792
BUS STOPS, HOW WELL YOU CAN ACCESS

4525
04:17:20,792 --> 04:17:22,792
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

4526
04:17:23,795 --> 04:17:25,797
, AS WELL. WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING FOR

4527
04:17:25,797 --> 04:17:26,798
A CONVERSATION ON TRAFFIC CALMING,

4528
04:17:26,798 --> 04:17:28,798
BECAUSE WE

4529
04:17:29,768 --> 04:17:32,168
DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS

4530
04:17:32,771 --> 04:17:35,171
IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

4531
04:17:35,774 --> 04:17:38,774
IT'S GOT NARROW STREETS. WE

4532
04:17:38,777 --> 04:17:41,746
HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS HERE . THOSE STREETS DO

4533
04:17:41,746 --> 04:17:44,749
NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS FOR THE MOST

4534
04:17:44,749 --> 04:17:45,750
PART IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. SO YOU HAVE

4535
04:17:45,750 --> 04:17:47,752
SCHOOLCHILDREN, YOU KNOW, WALKING THERE.

4536
04:17:47,752 --> 04:17:50,755
AND WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE PEDESTRIAN

4537
04:17:50,755 --> 04:17:52,755
SAFETY. >>

4538
04:17:53,758 --> 04:17:55,758
THE

4539
04:17:56,761 --> 04:17:59,161
OPEN SPACE TO THE

4540
04:17:59,764 --> 04:18:01,766
SOUTH IS DIVIDED INTO TWO

4541
04:18:01,766 --> 04:18:05,737
MAIN AREAS. WE HAVE A PLAZA THAT REALLY EQUATES

4542
04:18:05,737 --> 04:18:08,137
TO THE METRO ENTRANCE

4543
04:18:08,740 --> 04:18:10,740
AND CONNECTS THE

4544
04:18:11,743 --> 04:18:14,743
PROPOSED RETAIL TO THIS AREA.

4545
04:18:14,746 --> 04:18:17,746
IN FUTURE DESIGN, WE HAVE

4546
04:18:17,749 --> 04:18:19,751
TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT

4547
04:18:19,751 --> 04:18:20,752
IS A VERY ACTIVE AREA WITH A LOT OF

4548
04:18:20,752 --> 04:18:22,754
MOVEMENT. THE WHOLE POINT OF PUTTING

4549
04:18:22,754 --> 04:18:23,755
THIS PASSAGE HERE IS TO MAKE THE METRO

4550
04:18:23,755 --> 04:18:25,755
EASIER

4551
04:18:26,758 --> 04:18:29,761
TO ACCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> TO THE

4552
04:18:29,761 --> 04:18:31,761
EAST IS

4553
04:18:32,764 --> 04:18:34,764
MORE SPECIFIC GREEN.

4554
04:18:34,766 --> 04:18:35,734
ALL OF THIS WILL BE FLESHED OUT AS

4555
04:18:35,734 --> 04:18:37,734
WE HAD

4556
04:18:38,737 --> 04:18:40,737
SAID,

4557
04:18:41,740 --> 04:18:44,740
IN FUTURE SITE PLANS. WE

4558
04:18:44,743 --> 04:18:47,143
WANT TO CONVEY CONTENT.

4559
04:18:50,749 --> 04:18:53,752
IN FUTURE COORDINATION, THIS NEEDS TO BE INCREASED

4560
04:18:53,752 --> 04:18:55,752
TO ZERO .5

4561
04:18:56,755 --> 04:18:59,755
ACRES ON SITE. WE HAVE

4562
04:18:59,758 --> 04:19:01,758
A PLAN RECOMMENDATION

4563
04:19:01,760 --> 04:19:02,761
THAT THE PUBLIC SPACE BE 1/2 TO 1

4564
04:19:02,761 --> 04:19:04,763
ACRE, AND WE BELIEVE FOR IT

4565
04:19:04,763 --> 04:19:05,764
TO BE TRULY FUNCTIONAL, IT NEEDS TO BE

4566
04:19:05,764 --> 04:19:07,764
A MINIMUM OF

4567
04:19:08,767 --> 04:19:11,770
ONE HALF ACRE ON-SITE . IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE

4568
04:19:11,770 --> 04:19:14,170
A VERY GREEN SPACE.

4569
04:19:14,773 --> 04:19:15,774
THERE ARE A NUMBER

4570
04:19:15,774 --> 04:19:17,776
OF SECULAR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SPEAK

4571
04:19:17,776 --> 04:19:20,779
TO THAT, SO WE ARE EXPECTING

4572
04:19:20,779 --> 04:19:23,782
AT SITE PLAN TO SEE A LOT OF MULTI-

4573
04:19:23,782 --> 04:19:26,782
LAYER PLANTINGS USING NATIVE PLANTS. >>

4574
04:19:26,785 --> 04:19:28,785
TO THE NORTH

4575
04:19:29,788 --> 04:19:32,791
WE HAVE OPEN SPACE THAT IS LOCATED

4576
04:19:32,791 --> 04:19:34,791
PRIMARILY OVER A

4577
04:19:35,794 --> 04:19:37,794
EASEMENT.

4578
04:19:38,797 --> 04:19:40,797
THERE'S A

4579
04:19:42,767 --> 04:19:45,770
LARGE WATER LINE AND STORM DRAIN

4580
04:19:45,770 --> 04:19:46,771
LINE THAT RUNS TO THE

4581
04:19:46,771 --> 04:19:47,772
PROPERTY NOW. GENERALLY SPEAKING,

4582
04:19:47,772 --> 04:19:50,772
THOSE CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTED OVER.

4583
04:19:51,776 --> 04:19:53,776
SO

4584
04:19:54,779 --> 04:19:55,780
WHAT WE

4585
04:19:55,780 --> 04:19:59,380
WILL HAVE IS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION,

4586
04:20:01,786 --> 04:20:03,788
AND TURN IT INTO A NICE GREEN AREA,

4587
04:20:03,788 --> 04:20:04,789
HOWEVER, IT WILL HAVE TO BE

4588
04:20:04,789 --> 04:20:06,791
DESIGNED SO THAT IT IS SAFE. RIGHT? WE

4589
04:20:06,791 --> 04:20:08,791
WANT TO ENSURE

4590
04:20:09,794 --> 04:20:11,794
THAT

4591
04:20:12,797 --> 04:20:14,797
ACCEPTED

4592
04:20:15,767 --> 04:20:17,767
PRINCIPLES OF

4593
04:20:21,773 --> 04:20:22,774
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN ARE USED TO MAKE THIS VISIBLE, THAT

4594
04:20:22,774 --> 04:20:23,775
EVERYONE FEELS SAFE AND COMFORTABLE IN,

4595
04:20:23,775 --> 04:20:24,776
AND THAT THE LIGHTING IS APPROPRIATE

4596
04:20:24,776 --> 04:20:26,776
WITHOUT DARK SPOTS.

4597
04:20:27,779 --> 04:20:30,779
AND ONCE AGAIN, IT HAS

4598
04:20:30,782 --> 04:20:32,784
A MULTILAYERED PLANTING PLAN

4599
04:20:32,784 --> 04:20:35,184
USING PRIMARILY NATIVE PLANTINGS.

4600
04:20:39,791 --> 04:20:41,791
THE SITE INCLUDES

4601
04:20:41,793 --> 04:20:44,793
APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT THREE ACRES

4602
04:20:45,797 --> 04:20:48,800
OF FOREST. THAT HAS A LOT

4603
04:20:48,800 --> 04:20:50,800
OF INVASIVE

4604
04:20:51,769 --> 04:20:52,770
PLANTS

4605
04:20:52,770 --> 04:20:53,771
IN IT. ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE AN

4606
04:20:53,771 --> 04:20:54,772
AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT

4607
04:20:54,772 --> 04:20:56,772
IT, YOU SAY

4608
04:20:57,775 --> 04:20:59,777
OH HOW GREEN THAT IS.

4609
04:20:59,777 --> 04:21:00,778
THAT'S A NICE BIT OF FORCE. I WOULD AGREE

4610
04:21:00,778 --> 04:21:02,778
WITH YOU.

4611
04:21:02,780 --> 04:21:06,784
UNFORTUNATELY, THE AREA HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

4612
04:21:06,784 --> 04:21:08,820
AND IT'S GOT A LOT

4613
04:21:08,820 --> 04:21:09,821
OF INVASIVE'S IN IT . IN FACT, WHAT

4614
04:21:09,821 --> 04:21:11,821
YOU

4615
04:21:12,824 --> 04:21:14,824
SEE ARE

4616
04:21:16,828 --> 04:21:17,829
THEIR TREES, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THERE

4617
04:21:17,829 --> 04:21:18,830
ARE NOT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF INVASIVE'S

4618
04:21:18,830 --> 04:21:19,831
GROWING IN

4619
04:21:19,831 --> 04:21:21,833
THAT. SO THE SKETCH PLAN CURRENTLY SHOWS

4620
04:21:21,833 --> 04:21:23,833
THE FOREST

4621
04:21:24,802 --> 04:21:26,802
BEING REMOVED.

4622
04:21:27,805 --> 04:21:29,807
AND PROPOSES TO REPLACE

4623
04:21:29,807 --> 04:21:30,808
THE FOREST WITH ON-SITE PLANTINGS

4624
04:21:30,808 --> 04:21:32,808
THAT

4625
04:21:33,811 --> 04:21:36,211
ARE NATIVE, THAT PROVIDE

4626
04:21:36,814 --> 04:21:38,814
HABITATS, AND FOOD

4627
04:21:39,817 --> 04:21:41,817
FOR WILDLIFE.

4628
04:21:42,820 --> 04:21:44,822
YOU KNOW LITTLE PATCHES OF GREEN

4629
04:21:44,822 --> 04:21:48,422
ARE ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT FOR MIGRATING

4630
04:21:48,826 --> 04:21:50,826
BIRDS, FOR EXAMPLE. >>

4631
04:21:51,829 --> 04:21:52,830
OF COURSE THE DETAILS WILL

4632
04:21:52,830 --> 04:21:57,630
BE WORKED OUT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.

4633
04:21:57,802 --> 04:22:00,805
THE SKETCH PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A LARGE AREA

4634
04:22:00,805 --> 04:22:03,808
OF SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF TO

4635
04:22:03,808 --> 04:22:05,808
ON-SITE

4636
04:22:08,813 --> 04:22:09,814
ENERGY GENERATION, AND IT WILL HAVE

4637
04:22:09,814 --> 04:22:10,815
TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY

4638
04:22:10,815 --> 04:22:12,817
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO FOR A CHUNK

4639
04:22:12,817 --> 04:22:15,217
OF THE GEORGIA AVENUE

4640
04:22:18,823 --> 04:22:20,823
PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS

4641
04:22:22,827 --> 04:22:23,828
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS

4642
04:22:23,828 --> 04:22:24,829
WITH STATE HIGHWAYS ABOUT DOING THAT.

4643
04:22:24,829 --> 04:22:25,830
SO,

4644
04:22:25,830 --> 04:22:27,832
THAT'S ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS

4645
04:22:27,832 --> 04:22:29,832
THAT

4646
04:22:30,802 --> 04:22:32,802
WILL BE PROPOSED.

4647
04:22:33,805 --> 04:22:34,806
THESE ARE JUST

4648
04:22:34,806 --> 04:22:35,807
A FEW MORE PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT THIS

4649
04:22:35,807 --> 04:22:36,808
ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND.

4650
04:22:36,808 --> 04:22:38,808
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE

4651
04:22:39,811 --> 04:22:42,811
HAD BEEN SOME TREE REMOVAL

4652
04:22:42,814 --> 04:22:43,815
IN THE PAST

4653
04:22:43,815 --> 04:22:45,817
. IT WAS LONG ENOUGH AGO THAT, I COULDN'T

4654
04:22:45,817 --> 04:22:48,820
TELL YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED BUT,

4655
04:22:48,820 --> 04:22:51,220
THOSE ARE VERY WEATHERED

4656
04:22:51,823 --> 04:22:53,825
STUMPS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT

4657
04:22:53,825 --> 04:22:57,829
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VINES GROWING UP.

4658
04:22:57,829 --> 04:23:00,229
SO, AS I MENTIONED

4659
04:23:00,832 --> 04:23:02,800
EARLIER, OF COURSE,

4660
04:23:02,800 --> 04:23:03,801
CONSERVATION WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING

4661
04:23:03,801 --> 04:23:05,801
FUTURE STAGES, IT

4662
04:23:06,804 --> 04:23:09,841
IS NOT ADDRESSED AT THE SKETCH PLAN. >>

4663
04:23:09,841 --> 04:23:12,844
NOW I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MY

4664
04:23:12,844 --> 04:23:14,844
COLLEAGUE NATOSHA,

4665
04:23:15,847 --> 04:23:17,847
THANK YOU. >>

4666
04:23:18,850 --> 04:23:20,850
HELLO,

4667
04:23:20,852 --> 04:23:24,452
GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>

4668
04:23:24,856 --> 04:23:27,859
I'M SORRY. FOR THE RECORD MY

4669
04:23:27,859 --> 04:23:29,859
NAME IS NATOSHA

4670
04:23:32,864 --> 04:23:33,865
FARNHAM. URBAN DESIGNER WITH THE COUNTY

4671
04:23:33,865 --> 04:23:34,866
DIVISION, AS MY COLLEAGUE AMY MENTIONED THE

4672
04:23:34,866 --> 04:23:38,466
ARCHITECTURE OF THIS MEETING WILL BE

4673
04:23:38,836 --> 04:23:39,837
REVIEWED BY THE STAFF IN DETAIL IN

4674
04:23:39,837 --> 04:23:41,837
THE SITE PLAN

4675
04:23:42,840 --> 04:23:44,840
STAGES HOWEVER

4676
04:23:50,848 --> 04:23:51,849
DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, THE STAFF AND APPLICANT TEAM HAS STARTED THE

4677
04:23:51,849 --> 04:23:52,850
DIALOGUE TO MAKE SURE

4678
04:23:52,850 --> 04:23:53,851
THAT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

4679
04:23:53,851 --> 04:23:54,852
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE MAJOR

4680
04:23:54,852 --> 04:23:56,854
TRANSIT STATIONS, WE ENSURE THAT

4681
04:23:56,854 --> 04:24:00,454
WE ACHIEVE A VERY WELL ARTICULATED

4682
04:24:01,859 --> 04:24:03,861
MASSING WITH MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALONG GEORGIA

4683
04:24:03,861 --> 04:24:05,861
AVENUE. >>

4684
04:24:12,837 --> 04:24:14,839
SO WHAT YOU SEE

4685
04:24:14,839 --> 04:24:15,840
ON THE SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE INITIAL

4686
04:24:15,840 --> 04:24:17,840
CONCEPT OF

4687
04:24:18,843 --> 04:24:21,843
THE MASSING ALONG GEORGIA AVENUE

4688
04:24:21,846 --> 04:24:23,846
WHICH INCORPORATES THE

4689
04:24:24,849 --> 04:24:26,849
HIGHEST AMOUNT ALONG

4690
04:24:27,852 --> 04:24:30,852
GEORGIA AVENUE. THIS ELEVATION PROPOSAL

4691
04:24:30,855 --> 04:24:32,855
IS AROUND 500 FEET

4692
04:24:32,857 --> 04:24:36,861
LONG, AND SEC WITH A DIFFERENT COLOR

4693
04:24:36,861 --> 04:24:39,861
ON THE SCREEN SHOWS HOW

4694
04:24:39,864 --> 04:24:41,866
THE CLASSES WILL BE DIVIDED INTO THE SMALLER PORTION

4695
04:24:41,866 --> 04:24:44,266
WITH DIFFERENT ARTICULATION, DIFFERENT

4696
04:24:45,837 --> 04:24:48,840
BUILDING MATERIAL, COLORS, AND SETBACKS. SO

4697
04:24:48,840 --> 04:24:50,840
AS IS SHOWN

4698
04:24:51,843 --> 04:24:52,844
IN THE GREED FACADE FIVE,

4699
04:24:52,844 --> 04:24:54,846
WRAPS THE CORNER AROUND GEORGIA AVENUE

4700
04:24:54,846 --> 04:24:56,848
ON FORCE GLENN. IT'S

4701
04:24:56,848 --> 04:25:00,448
THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THE GROUND.

4702
04:25:02,854 --> 04:25:03,855
THAT WE EXPLAINED BEFORE. ALSO THIS

4703
04:25:03,855 --> 04:25:06,255
CORNER OFFERS THE GATEWAY

4704
04:25:06,891 --> 04:25:09,891
FEATURE AS THE ARCHITECTURE ELEMENT

4705
04:25:09,894 --> 04:25:12,897
OF THE PROMINENT CORNER. AS WE WALK NORTH

4706
04:25:12,897 --> 04:25:15,900
ALONG GEORGIA AVENUE, FACADE SIX, WHICH

4707
04:25:15,900 --> 04:25:18,300
IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE,

4708
04:25:18,870 --> 04:25:21,870
OFFERS THE LOBULAR EDUCATION WITH

4709
04:25:21,873 --> 04:25:23,873
THE

4710
04:25:23,875 --> 04:25:24,876
BREAK WITH FACADE FIVE AND SEVEN.

4711
04:25:24,876 --> 04:25:26,876
AS

4712
04:25:27,879 --> 04:25:29,879
WE APPROACH TOWARD

4713
04:25:29,881 --> 04:25:30,882
THE NORTHERN END OF THIS BUILDING

4714
04:25:30,882 --> 04:25:32,882
, FACADE EIGHT,

4715
04:25:33,885 --> 04:25:35,885
IN LIGHT PURPLE,

4716
04:25:36,888 --> 04:25:38,888
IT OFFERS

4717
04:25:39,891 --> 04:25:42,894
GETTING TO THE END OF THE BUILDING

4718
04:25:42,894 --> 04:25:44,896
AND AREA THAT THE STAFF WOULD

4719
04:25:44,896 --> 04:25:45,897
LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE

4720
04:25:45,897 --> 04:25:48,897
SET BACK TO TRANSITION THIS

4721
04:25:48,900 --> 04:25:51,869
BUILDING TO THE EXISTING SMALL

4722
04:25:51,869 --> 04:25:53,869
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES

4723
04:25:54,872 --> 04:25:56,872
ALONG GEORGIA AVENUE. >>

4724
04:25:57,875 --> 04:26:00,275
SO THIS IMAGE SHOWS

4725
04:26:06,884 --> 04:26:07,885
WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED FOR THE

4726
04:26:07,885 --> 04:26:08,886
BUILDING ALONG WOODLAND DRIVE. STAFF

4727
04:26:08,886 --> 04:26:09,887
HAD SOME CONCERN, WE TRIED TO CREATE

4728
04:26:09,887 --> 04:26:11,889
A BETTER TRANSITION INTO THE SINGLE-FAMILY COMMUNITY

4729
04:26:11,889 --> 04:26:12,890
BY PROPOSING THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU

4730
04:26:12,890 --> 04:26:15,890
SEE ON THE STAFF REPORT.

4731
04:26:15,893 --> 04:26:18,893
THESE CONDITIONS HELP THE APPLICANT

4732
04:26:18,896 --> 04:26:20,896
TO CREATE ARTICULATION,

4733
04:26:24,869 --> 04:26:26,871
AND SOFTEN THE MASSES ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AND YOU

4734
04:26:26,871 --> 04:26:27,872
CAN SEE ON THE SKETCHES THE IMAGE,

4735
04:26:27,872 --> 04:26:29,872
AS SHOWN.

4736
04:26:32,877 --> 04:26:33,878
SO THE SLIDE THAT YOU ARE SEEING,

4737
04:26:33,878 --> 04:26:35,880
THESE ARE SOME OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT

4738
04:26:35,880 --> 04:26:37,882
THE STAFF HAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THE

4739
04:26:37,882 --> 04:26:40,885
STAFF AND BOARD AND I CAN

4740
04:26:40,885 --> 04:26:41,886
SUMMARIZE IT. ONE

4741
04:26:41,886 --> 04:26:43,888
ASPECT WOULD BE MINIMIZING THE HEIGHT ALONG

4742
04:26:43,888 --> 04:26:45,888
WOODLAND DRIVE

4743
04:26:46,891 --> 04:26:49,291
TO 35 FOOT TALL. TO

4744
04:26:49,861 --> 04:26:51,861
CREATE A

4745
04:26:51,863 --> 04:26:52,864
TOWNHOME STYLE MASSING, WHICH WE BELIEVE WOULD

4746
04:26:52,864 --> 04:26:54,864
BE

4747
04:26:54,866 --> 04:26:55,867
MORE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY

4748
04:26:55,867 --> 04:26:56,834
HOMES. SO

4749
04:26:56,834 --> 04:26:58,836
YOU WILL SEE THAT MARK IN THE YELLOW

4750
04:26:58,836 --> 04:27:00,836
AND THE BLUE.

4751
04:27:01,839 --> 04:27:03,841
THAT IS THE MASSING ALONG

4752
04:27:03,841 --> 04:27:07,879
WOODLAND DRIVE. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE

4753
04:27:07,879 --> 04:27:10,879
ANY HEIGHT MORE THAN 35 FEET

4754
04:27:10,882 --> 04:27:12,884
BEFORE INTRODUCING ANY SETBACK. THE OTHER CONDITION THAT WE WOULD

4755
04:27:12,884 --> 04:27:15,887
LIKE TO EMPHASIZE FOR THE FUTURE,

4756
04:27:15,887 --> 04:27:17,889
ON THE SITE PLAN IS PROVIDING MORE

4757
04:27:17,889 --> 04:27:19,891
GAPS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS

4758
04:27:19,891 --> 04:27:21,891
OF

4759
04:27:22,894 --> 04:27:25,894
THIS BUILDING TO CLEARLY CREATE

4760
04:27:25,897 --> 04:27:27,897
A DIFFERENT MASSING

4761
04:27:27,899 --> 04:27:28,900
ALONG THIS LONG FACADE AS MENTIONED

4762
04:27:28,900 --> 04:27:30,900
ABOUT

4763
04:27:31,869 --> 04:27:33,869
500 FEET. THE

4764
04:27:34,872 --> 04:27:35,873
OTHER CONDITION TO TALK ABOUT

4765
04:27:35,873 --> 04:27:37,875
HIS SETBACKS ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE

4766
04:27:37,875 --> 04:27:40,275
OF THE BUILDING THAT

4767
04:27:40,878 --> 04:27:43,878
IS BEING POINTED AT IN

4768
04:27:43,881 --> 04:27:46,881
PURPLE AT FACADE ONE WHICH

4769
04:27:46,884 --> 04:27:48,886
WE ARE CONDITIONED TO MAKE SURE THAT

4770
04:27:48,886 --> 04:27:52,890
IT IS SETBACK 30 FEET FROM THE MAJORITY

4771
04:27:52,890 --> 04:27:54,892
OF THE REST OF THE BUILDING.

4772
04:27:54,892 --> 04:27:55,893
WE ARE CREATING A SMALL OPEN SPACE

4773
04:27:55,893 --> 04:27:58,893
AT THE END OF THE

4774
04:27:58,896 --> 04:28:00,898
TRUE BLOCK PICTURE THAT AMY

4775
04:28:00,898 --> 04:28:04,869
EXPLAINED PRIOR, THAT TRUE BLOCK CONNECTION CREATED

4776
04:28:04,869 --> 04:28:06,871
A CONNECTION WITH GEORGIA

4777
04:28:06,871 --> 04:28:11,710
AVENUE AND WOODLAND DRIVE, AND WE THOUGHT

4778
04:28:12,877 --> 04:28:13,878
SETTING THE BUILDING BACK WOULD CREATE

4779
04:28:13,878 --> 04:28:15,880
A BETTER TRANSITION TO THE HOUSING

4780
04:28:15,880 --> 04:28:16,881
THAT IS SITTING NEXT TO IT ON FOR

4781
04:28:16,881 --> 04:28:19,281
60 ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.

4782
04:28:19,884 --> 04:28:22,884
ALSO, CREATING AN ALTERNATIVE FOR

4783
04:28:22,887 --> 04:28:23,888
PROVIDING A SMALL

4784
04:28:23,888 --> 04:28:27,488
GATHERING SPACE AND LANDSCAPING DEBATE JUST

4785
04:28:29,894 --> 04:28:31,896
JUST FOR THE GATHERING FOR FUTURE

4786
04:28:31,896 --> 04:28:33,896
RESIDENTS. >>

4787
04:28:33,898 --> 04:28:35,900
WHAT YOU SEE IN THE SLIDE ARE THE

4788
04:28:35,900 --> 04:28:37,868
BUILDING SECTIONS, THE SECTION THROUGH

4789
04:28:37,868 --> 04:28:40,871
THE BUILDING THAT SHOWS WOODLAND DRIVE

4790
04:28:40,871 --> 04:28:42,873
AND THE LOWER ELEVATION, AND

4791
04:28:42,873 --> 04:28:43,874
ON YOUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE, AND IN THE

4792
04:28:43,874 --> 04:28:45,874
BUILDING FACING

4793
04:28:45,876 --> 04:28:48,876
THE GEORGIA AVENUE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

4794
04:28:48,879 --> 04:28:49,880
THESE TWO SECTIONS COMPARE WHAT HAS BEEN

4795
04:28:49,880 --> 04:28:51,880
PROPOSED,

4796
04:28:52,883 --> 04:28:55,886
AND WHAT STAFF IS TRYING TO

4797
04:28:55,886 --> 04:28:57,886
ACHIEVE THROUGH THE

4798
04:28:58,889 --> 04:28:59,890
STAFFING

4799
04:28:59,890 --> 04:29:00,891
REPORT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

4800
04:29:00,891 --> 04:29:01,892
THE MASSING IS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS

4801
04:29:01,892 --> 04:29:02,893
SLIDE WILL BE MINIMIZED

4802
04:29:02,893 --> 04:29:04,929
TO THE 35 FOOT TALL ALONG WOODLAND

4803
04:29:04,929 --> 04:29:07,929
DRIVE, AND THEN SETTING BACK

4804
04:29:07,932 --> 04:29:10,332
IF MASSING WOULD OCCUR

4805
04:29:10,901 --> 04:29:12,903
IN THE SETBACK OF A

4806
04:29:12,903 --> 04:29:13,904
MINIMUM 12 FEET WHICH YOU WANT TO

4807
04:29:13,904 --> 04:29:15,904
SEE, AND WOULD

4808
04:29:16,907 --> 04:29:19,907
BE NOTICED ON WOODLAND DRIVE

4809
04:29:19,910 --> 04:29:21,910
BY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. >>

4810
04:29:21,912 --> 04:29:24,915
THIS SLIDE YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE

4811
04:29:24,915 --> 04:29:25,916
PRESENT IMAGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE

4812
04:29:25,916 --> 04:29:27,916
THE

4813
04:29:28,919 --> 04:29:30,919
STAFF TO HELP

4814
04:29:32,923 --> 04:29:33,924
IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE STAFF IS TRYING

4815
04:29:33,924 --> 04:29:34,925
TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THE CONDITIONS. SO

4816
04:29:34,925 --> 04:29:36,925
THERE ARE ARCHITECTURAL

4817
04:29:36,927 --> 04:29:37,928
ELEMENTS THAT CAN MINIMIZE THE IMPACT

4818
04:29:37,928 --> 04:29:39,928
OF THE

4819
04:29:40,931 --> 04:29:42,931
MASSING

4820
04:29:46,904 --> 04:29:47,905
BUILDING

4821
04:29:47,905 --> 04:29:48,906
AND RESIDENTIAL ROW. ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING

4822
04:29:48,906 --> 04:29:49,907
CAN BE LIKE INDIVIDUAL ENTRYWAY INTO

4823
04:29:49,907 --> 04:29:50,908
THE

4824
04:29:50,908 --> 04:29:52,910
GROUND FLOOR, CANOPIES AND SIGNAGE FOR THOSE

4825
04:29:52,910 --> 04:29:54,910
INDIVIDUAL UNITS,

4826
04:29:54,912 --> 04:29:57,912
SMALL LANDSCAPING AREAS THAT DIFFERENTIATE

4827
04:29:57,915 --> 04:30:00,915
AND DELINEATE LIKE INDIVIDUAL UNITS

4828
04:30:03,921 --> 04:30:04,922
ON THE GROUND, ALL OF THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS

4829
04:30:04,922 --> 04:30:05,923
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE APPLIED

4830
04:30:05,923 --> 04:30:07,925
TO THE BUILDING FACING WOODLAND DRIVE

4831
04:30:07,925 --> 04:30:10,925
TO HELP SMOOTH THE TRANSITION

4832
04:30:10,928 --> 04:30:11,929
IN THE EXISTING

4833
04:30:11,929 --> 04:30:14,329
NEIGHBORHOOD. AS MENTIONED, AGAIN,

4834
04:30:15,933 --> 04:30:16,901
STAFF HAS PROVIDED THE CONDITION IN

4835
04:30:16,901 --> 04:30:19,301
THE STAFF REPORT TO

4836
04:30:19,904 --> 04:30:21,904
MAKE SURE

4837
04:30:21,906 --> 04:30:22,907
--TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY WELL

4838
04:30:22,907 --> 04:30:24,907
ARTICULATED BUILDING

4839
04:30:25,910 --> 04:30:27,912
ALONG GEORGIA AVENUE, AND FORCE

4840
04:30:27,912 --> 04:30:28,913
GLENN, AND ALSO GREAT TRANSITION TO THE

4841
04:30:28,913 --> 04:30:30,913
SINGLE-FAMILY AND ALL

4842
04:30:31,916 --> 04:30:32,917
OF THAT. THE STAFF

4843
04:30:32,917 --> 04:30:34,919
IS COMMITTED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH

4844
04:30:34,919 --> 04:30:36,919
ADVOCATES IN

4845
04:30:37,922 --> 04:30:40,925
FUTURE PHASES TO ENSURE THIS. AND

4846
04:30:40,925 --> 04:30:43,928
THANK YOU I WILL GIVE IT BACK TO AMY. >>

4847
04:30:43,928 --> 04:30:45,928
THANK YOU, NATOSHA. >>

4848
04:30:46,931 --> 04:30:48,931
SO

4849
04:30:49,900 --> 04:30:52,900
THIS SITE IS PART OF

4850
04:30:52,903 --> 04:30:54,903
--

4851
04:30:54,905 --> 04:30:55,906
IS LOCATED IN THE FORCE GLENN MONTGOMERY

4852
04:30:55,906 --> 04:30:57,906
HILLS SECTOR PLAN

4853
04:30:58,909 --> 04:31:00,911
THAT WAS APPROVED IN MARCH

4854
04:31:00,911 --> 04:31:01,912
OF 2020. THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT

4855
04:31:01,912 --> 04:31:03,912
TO COME IN

4856
04:31:04,949 --> 04:31:06,949
IN THIS AREA.

4857
04:31:07,952 --> 04:31:10,952
THERE WAS ONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

4858
04:31:10,955 --> 04:31:13,958
PROJECT THAT CAME IN WHILE THE SECTOR

4859
04:31:13,958 --> 04:31:16,961
PLAN WAS STILL IN PROCESS. BUT

4860
04:31:16,961 --> 04:31:17,962
THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR PROJECT TO COME IN

4861
04:31:17,962 --> 04:31:19,964
IN THIS SECTOR PLAN WHICH WE ARE VERY

4862
04:31:19,964 --> 04:31:22,364
HAPPY TO SEE BECAUSE,

4863
04:31:22,967 --> 04:31:25,936
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS.

4864
04:31:25,936 --> 04:31:28,939
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS

4865
04:31:28,939 --> 04:31:31,939
REDEVELOP FOR HIRE USES NEAR

4866
04:31:31,942 --> 04:31:34,945
THE METRO. >> SO THE SECTOR PLAN

4867
04:31:34,945 --> 04:31:37,945
HAS A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS

4868
04:31:37,948 --> 04:31:39,948
.

4869
04:31:42,953 --> 04:31:43,954
I WILL NOT GO INTO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF

4870
04:31:43,954 --> 04:31:45,956
THEM, BUT I WANT TO

4871
04:31:45,956 --> 04:31:46,957
HIGHLIGHT A FEW. SO, THE FIRST HAS

4872
04:31:46,957 --> 04:31:49,357
TO DO WITH REZONING.

4873
04:31:49,960 --> 04:31:52,963
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE REZONING

4874
04:31:52,963 --> 04:31:54,963
WAS TO DO.

4875
04:32:07,945 --> 04:32:08,946
MIXED-USE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AT

4876
04:32:08,946 --> 04:32:10,948
THE METRO TRANSIT STATION. THAT IS WHAT

4877
04:32:10,948 --> 04:32:11,949
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WHILE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD

4878
04:32:11,949 --> 04:32:13,951
LIKE TO SEE CHANGES TO EMPHASIZE THE

4879
04:32:13,951 --> 04:32:14,952
MIXED USE OF TRANSMIT WHICH WILL MAKE IT MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN

4880
04:32:14,952 --> 04:32:16,954
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS THE

4881
04:32:16,954 --> 04:32:18,956
PURPOSE OF A NUMBER OF OUR CONDITIONS. >>

4882
04:32:18,956 --> 04:32:22,960
THIS IS THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN

4883
04:32:22,960 --> 04:32:25,360
IN THE SECTOR PLAN.

4884
04:32:28,966 --> 04:32:30,966
THE SECTOR

4885
04:32:31,936 --> 04:32:34,939
PLAN ALSO LOOKED TO CONCENTRATE THE

4886
04:32:34,939 --> 04:32:37,939
BUILDING HEIGHT DENSITY NEAR THAT

4887
04:32:41,946 --> 04:32:43,948
GEORGIA AVENUE/FORCE GLENN ROAD

4888
04:32:43,948 --> 04:32:44,949
INTERSECTION WITH TRANSITIONS. WE

4889
04:32:44,949 --> 04:32:47,349
JUST TALK ABOUT THE

4890
04:32:47,952 --> 04:32:48,953
TRANSITIONS. AND,

4891
04:32:48,953 --> 04:32:52,553
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND

4892
04:32:53,958 --> 04:32:55,958
THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. >>

4893
04:32:57,962 --> 04:32:59,964
IT ALSO, THE SECTOR PLAN POINTS TO

4894
04:32:59,964 --> 04:33:00,965
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

4895
04:33:00,965 --> 04:33:03,000
AND HABITAT PRESERVATION. THE DEVELOPMENT

4896
04:33:03,000 --> 04:33:05,000
DOES PROVIDE

4897
04:33:06,971 --> 04:33:08,973
15% MODERATELY PLIES DWELLING UNITS,

4898
04:33:08,973 --> 04:33:11,973
BUT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE

4899
04:33:11,976 --> 04:33:14,979
FOR HABITAT PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION, INSTEAD

4900
04:33:14,979 --> 04:33:15,980
IT INCORPORATES NEW

4901
04:33:15,980 --> 04:33:18,980
VEGETATED AREAS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. >>

4902
04:33:20,985 --> 04:33:22,985
THE SECTOR PLAN

4903
04:33:23,988 --> 04:33:26,988
IS ALSO LOOKING FOR THREE

4904
04:33:26,991 --> 04:33:27,992
BEDROOM USING 'S

4905
04:33:27,992 --> 04:33:28,993
AND OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH

4906
04:33:28,993 --> 04:33:32,997
IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED

4907
04:33:32,997 --> 04:33:35,997
IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS WE

4908
04:33:36,000 --> 04:33:38,000
MOVE FORWARD.

4909
04:33:39,970 --> 04:33:40,971
WE'VE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THIS WITH

4910
04:33:40,971 --> 04:33:43,971
THE REMNANT FOREST, AND PROVIDING

4911
04:33:44,975 --> 04:33:47,375
AREAS OF EQUAL ENVIRONMENTAL

4912
04:33:47,978 --> 04:33:49,978
BENEFIT ON-SITE.

4913
04:33:50,981 --> 04:33:52,981
THERE IS

4914
04:33:52,983 --> 04:33:55,986
--THE SECTOR PLAN DOES INCLUDE A RECOMMENDATION FOR

4915
04:33:55,986 --> 04:33:59,586
AN ON-SITE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP AREA

4916
04:33:59,990 --> 04:34:01,990
FOR TRANSIT

4917
04:34:04,995 --> 04:34:05,996
USERS ACCESSIBLE FROM WOODLAND DRIVE.

4918
04:34:05,996 --> 04:34:06,997
THE SKETCH PLAN SHOWS A DROP OFF

4919
04:34:06,997 --> 04:34:08,999
THEORY ON WOODLAND DRIVE NOT WITHIN

4920
04:34:08,999 --> 04:34:10,968
THE PROPERTY. >> SO THAT IS

4921
04:34:10,968 --> 04:34:11,969
ONE POINT THAT IS DIFFERENT, HOWEVER, IN

4922
04:34:11,969 --> 04:34:12,970
WORKING THROUGH

4923
04:34:12,970 --> 04:34:15,970
THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, BRINGING

4924
04:34:17,975 --> 04:34:20,978
THE DROP OFF AREA FURTHER INTO THE PROPERTY,

4925
04:34:20,978 --> 04:34:23,378
WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE TRAFFIC

4926
04:34:23,981 --> 04:34:25,981
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

4927
04:34:26,984 --> 04:34:29,987
BECAUSE THE DROP OFF AREA WOULD BE

4928
04:34:29,987 --> 04:34:32,387
WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE.

4929
04:34:32,990 --> 04:34:34,990
>> SO, THE ON-SITE

4930
04:34:35,993 --> 04:34:37,993
, THE ON SEAT

4931
04:34:38,996 --> 04:34:41,396
DROP OFF AREA. WAS

4932
04:34:41,999 --> 04:34:43,999
THROUGH CONSIDERATION WHERE

4933
04:34:47,972 --> 04:34:49,972
--WHAT THE

4934
04:34:50,974 --> 04:34:53,974
PLAN SHOWS. >> WE PROVIDED CONDITIONS

4935
04:34:53,977 --> 04:34:56,980
TO PROVIDE FOR SIZE AND SCALE COMPATIBILITY

4936
04:34:56,980 --> 04:34:59,983
. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE

4937
04:34:59,983 --> 04:35:02,383
CIVIC GREEN URBAN PARK.

4938
04:35:06,230 --> 04:35:09,260
THE SECTOR PLAN ALSO POINTS TO PRODUCING

4939
04:35:09,260 --> 04:35:11,280
PARKING TO THE MAXIMUM

4940
04:35:11,280 --> 04:35:12,290
EXTENT POSSIBLE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING

4941
04:35:12,290 --> 04:35:14,310
WE WILL BE LOOKING

4942
04:35:14,310 --> 04:35:15,320
FOR THROUGH THE SITE PLAN. YOUR BUILDING

4943
04:35:15,320 --> 04:35:18,100
RIGHT ON TOP OF A

4944
04:35:18,100 --> 04:35:19,200
METRO STATION

4945
04:35:19,200 --> 04:35:21,500
ENTRANCE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

4946
04:35:21,500 --> 04:35:23,500
LESS PARKING. >>

4947
04:35:24,800 --> 04:35:26,800
PUBLIC BENEFIT POINTS,

4948
04:35:27,100 --> 04:35:28,110
THERE ARE

4949
04:35:28,110 --> 04:35:30,130
ONLY REQUIRED 50 , BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING

4950
04:35:30,130 --> 04:35:32,130
A 25. TRANSIT

4951
04:35:33,160 --> 04:35:34,170
PROXIMITY,

4952
04:35:34,170 --> 04:35:36,190
THROUGH BLOCK CONNECTIONS, MODERATELY PRICED

4953
04:35:36,190 --> 04:35:38,190
DWELLING UNITS,

4954
04:35:39,230 --> 04:35:41,230
THE ARCHITECTURAL

4955
04:35:44,280 --> 04:35:45,280
ELEVATIONS APPROVED AT SITE PLAN, WILL

4956
04:35:45,280 --> 04:35:47,300
BE BINDING, SO THEY HAVE COMMITTED

4957
04:35:47,300 --> 04:35:48,310
TO THAT. STRUCTURED PARKING, ALL OF

4958
04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:49,320
THE PARKING IS

4959
04:35:49,320 --> 04:35:51,100
STRUCTURED, THERE WILL BE NO SURFACE

4960
04:35:51,100 --> 04:35:54,100
PARKING, THE TOWER STEP BACK,

4961
04:35:57,700 --> 04:35:59,977
WILL PROVIDE A COOL ROOF, GENERATING ENERGY,

4962
04:35:59,977 --> 04:36:02,980
AND PROVIDING A LARGER VEGETATED AREA

4963
04:36:02,980 --> 04:36:05,980
ARE ALL PUBLIC BENEFIT POINT

4964
04:36:05,983 --> 04:36:07,983
SCHEDULES.

4965
04:36:08,986 --> 04:36:11,386
>> WE HAD A LOT

4966
04:36:11,989 --> 04:36:12,990
OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON THIS.

4967
04:36:12,990 --> 04:36:13,991
WITH MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY

4968
04:36:13,991 --> 04:36:16,991
GROUPS, AND INDIVIDUALS. I BELIEVE

4969
04:36:17,995 --> 04:36:19,995
YOU'VE RECEIVED THE 400

4970
04:36:20,998 --> 04:36:23,398
PAGES OF EMAIL, PROXIMATELY.

4971
04:36:23,967 --> 04:36:25,969
IN THE COMMUNITIES HERE, SO I'M NOT

4972
04:36:25,969 --> 04:36:30,769
GOING TO TRY TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT

4973
04:36:35,979 --> 04:36:36,980
JUST

4974
04:36:36,980 --> 04:36:37,981
TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR ISSUES WOULD BE

4975
04:36:37,981 --> 04:36:38,982
THE WOODLAND DRIVE INTEREST, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT

4976
04:36:38,982 --> 04:36:39,983
ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, SCALE AND COMPATIBILITY,

4977
04:36:39,983 --> 04:36:40,984
LOSS OF FOREST, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING PROVIDED,

4978
04:36:40,984 --> 04:36:41,985
ISSUES WITH THE PROCESS. ISSUES WITH

4979
04:36:41,985 --> 04:36:43,985
THE APPLICANT,

4980
04:36:44,988 --> 04:36:46,990
THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE

4981
04:36:46,990 --> 04:36:47,991
BEING PROVIDED. SECTOR PLAN COMPLIANCE,

4982
04:36:47,991 --> 04:36:49,991
AND WE HEARD

4983
04:36:50,994 --> 04:36:52,996
ABOUT POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO

4984
04:36:52,996 --> 04:36:53,997
EXISTING UTILITIES. THERE ARE SOME

4985
04:36:53,997 --> 04:36:55,997
QUESTIONS ABOUT

4986
04:37:00,300 --> 04:37:02,500
THE STABILITY OF SOME OF THOSE

4987
04:37:02,500 --> 04:37:03,600
UTILITY LINES, ALL OF WHICH CAN BE

4988
04:37:03,600 --> 04:37:06,900
INVESTIGATED AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE

4989
04:37:06,900 --> 04:37:07,100
PROCESS. >>

4990
04:37:07,100 --> 04:37:09,120
THE AMOUNT OF THE RETAIL PROPOSED.

4991
04:37:09,120 --> 04:37:11,140
SOME OF THE LETTERS INDICATED THAT THE

4992
04:37:11,140 --> 04:37:15,180
CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE RETAIL.

4993
04:37:15,180 --> 04:37:18,180
ISSUES WITH POTENTIAL CRIME AND

4994
04:37:18,210 --> 04:37:20,230
THE IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOL

4995
04:37:20,230 --> 04:37:21,240
SYSTEM THAT WAS MENTIONED WILL BE COVERED

4996
04:37:21,240 --> 04:37:23,424
IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

4997
04:37:27,300 --> 04:37:30,330
>> NOW THE DREADED CORRECTIONS PLAN. ON PAGE

4998
04:37:30,330 --> 04:37:31,100
16 WE STATE THAT THERE ZERO

4999
04:37:31,100 --> 04:37:33,300
ACCESS TUNNEL WILL BE CONSTRUCTED

5000
04:37:33,300 --> 04:37:36,600
BY THE APPLICANT, BUT IT IS NOT

5001
04:37:36,600 --> 04:37:37,700
. IT

5002
04:37:37,700 --> 04:37:39,900
IS A D.O.T. PROJECT. ON PAGE 18 WE

5003
04:37:39,900 --> 04:37:42,120
HAVE SOME CORRECTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSIT SECTION

5004
04:37:42,120 --> 04:37:44,140
ADEQUACY. YOU WILL SEE THAT IN FRONT

5005
04:37:44,140 --> 04:37:47,170
OF YOU. >> THOSE ARE NOT CONDITIONS.

5006
04:37:47,170 --> 04:37:51,210
BUT THEY ARE PART OF THE STAFF REPORT. >>

5007
04:37:51,210 --> 04:37:53,210
AND FINALLY, ON

5008
04:37:54,240 --> 04:37:56,260
PAGE 31, THE PRIEST MIDDLE MEETING

5009
04:37:56,260 --> 04:37:57,270
WAS NOT HELD VIRTUALLY, THAT WAS AN

5010
04:37:57,270 --> 04:38:00,270
IN PERSON MEETING AT SLIGO

5011
04:38:00,300 --> 04:38:02,300
MIDDLE SCHOOL.

5012
04:38:02,320 --> 04:38:03,330
AND WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL

5013
04:38:03,330 --> 04:38:05,200
WITH CONDITIONS

5014
04:38:05,200 --> 04:38:09,600
AS ENUMERATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND

5015
04:38:09,600 --> 04:38:11,600
AS MODIFIED HEREIN. >>

5016
04:38:12,900 --> 04:38:13,100
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M SURE WILL

5017
04:38:13,100 --> 04:38:15,120
HAVE QUESTIONS LATER. BUT WE WILL

5018
04:38:15,120 --> 04:38:17,412
HEAR FROM THOSE IN

5019
04:38:18,150 --> 04:38:20,150
ATTENDANCE HERE .

5020
04:38:20,170 --> 04:38:21,180
I WILL CALL HER FIVE NAMES, IF YOU

5021
04:38:21,180 --> 04:38:23,180
COME UP ,

5022
04:38:24,210 --> 04:38:26,210
INDIVIDUALS WILL

5023
04:38:27,240 --> 04:38:30,270
GET THREE MINUTES, JUST LIKE THE MAIN MEETING.

5024
04:38:30,270 --> 04:38:33,300
THERE WILL BE A CLOCK FOR YOU. EXCEPT

5025
04:38:33,300 --> 04:38:36,330
THEY ONLY HAD 15 SECONDS BETWEEN PITCHES.

5026
04:38:36,330 --> 04:38:38,330
IF

5027
04:38:39,200 --> 04:38:41,402
WARREN SPEISER, JEFFREY EARNING,

5028
04:38:42,500 --> 04:38:45,500
DENNIS RYAN, MICHAEL SITTER OFF,

5029
04:38:45,800 --> 04:38:47,800
AND ROBERT

5030
04:38:48,110 --> 04:38:50,110
[ INDISCERNIBLE ] . I'M

5031
04:38:53,160 --> 04:38:54,170
SURE I MURDERED THOSE NAMES, BUT FORGIVE

5032
04:38:54,170 --> 04:38:56,170
ME. >>

5033
04:38:59,560 --> 04:39:01,580
WITH MY NAME, I ALWAYS ASK FORGIVENESS.

5034
04:39:01,580 --> 04:39:03,580
>> I TELL PEOPLE

5035
04:39:04,610 --> 04:39:06,461
IT'S LIKE SMITH, ONLY

5036
04:39:07,640 --> 04:39:09,640
DIFFERENT. >> YES.

5037
04:39:10,670 --> 04:39:13,667
MR. BAEZA, IF YOU COULD --

5038
04:39:18,410 --> 04:39:19,420
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANKS SO

5039
04:39:19,420 --> 04:39:20,430
MUCH TO AMY AND

5040
04:39:20,430 --> 04:39:22,450
LIZZIE FOR REVIEWING CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECTS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.

5041
04:39:22,450 --> 04:39:23,460
INDEED, THE CONCERN SHE

5042
04:39:23,460 --> 04:39:25,480
RAISED ECHO MANY OF THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS

5043
04:39:25,480 --> 04:39:27,448
OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M

5044
04:39:28,510 --> 04:39:30,451
LAWRENCE PAGE, I'M A

5045
04:39:31,540 --> 04:39:34,570
STRONG SUPPORTER OF RATIONAL AND APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU

5046
04:39:34,570 --> 04:39:36,570
POINTED OUT

5047
04:39:37,600 --> 04:39:39,460
SO, I THINK DEVELOPING

5048
04:39:40,630 --> 04:39:43,630
RESIDENTIAL AREAS ADJACENT TO METRO

5049
04:39:43,660 --> 04:39:45,466
STATIONS HAS BEEN COMPELLING.

5050
04:39:46,360 --> 04:39:50,836
THIS IS WHAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE.

5051
04:39:52,420 --> 04:39:53,430
HOWEVER, I

5052
04:39:53,430 --> 04:39:54,440
THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS

5053
04:39:54,440 --> 04:39:55,450
TAILORED TO AND INTEGRATED WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO NEW

5054
04:39:55,450 --> 04:39:57,450
BUILDINGS, LIKE THIS

5055
04:39:58,480 --> 04:40:00,480
ONE TODAY,

5056
04:40:00,500 --> 04:40:01,510
LINDA SEAMLESSLY AS POSSIBLE WITH

5057
04:40:01,510 --> 04:40:02,520
HOMES ALREADY IN PLACE. ACCORDINGLY,

5058
04:40:02,520 --> 04:40:04,540
I WISH TO REGISTER MAJOR CONCERNS

5059
04:40:04,540 --> 04:40:06,454
ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

5060
04:40:07,570 --> 04:40:08,580
IT

5061
04:40:08,580 --> 04:40:09,590
FAILS TO MEET ANY OF THESE CRITERIA

5062
04:40:09,590 --> 04:40:10,600
AND RAISES A HOST OF ADDITIONAL ISSUES. THE

5063
04:40:10,600 --> 04:40:11,610
DEVELOPER

5064
04:40:11,610 --> 04:40:14,610
PROPOSES TO INTRODUCE THIS APARTMENT

5065
04:40:16,660 --> 04:40:17,340
IN AN 80-YEAR-OLD

5066
04:40:17,340 --> 04:40:18,350
NEIGHBORHOOD OF SMALL SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES

5067
04:40:18,350 --> 04:40:19,360
WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR THE IMPACT

5068
04:40:19,360 --> 04:40:21,380
THAT THIS CHANGE MIGHT

5069
04:40:21,380 --> 04:40:25,420
HAVE ON CURRENT RESIDENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

5070
04:40:25,420 --> 04:40:27,440
IN FACT, THE PLAN CALLS

5071
04:40:27,440 --> 04:40:31,244
FOR BUILDINGS IN THESE AREAS TO BE

5072
04:40:33,500 --> 04:40:34,510
COMPATIBLE WITH THAT IN THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

5073
04:40:34,510 --> 04:40:36,510
ALTHOUGH THE DEVELOPER

5074
04:40:36,530 --> 04:40:37,540
CLAIMS TO HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT

5075
04:40:37,540 --> 04:40:39,454
FROM THE COMMUNITY, THIS

5076
04:40:40,570 --> 04:40:42,590
IS NOT TRUE. THE 400 PAGES

5077
04:40:42,590 --> 04:40:46,630
ARE MOSTLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN

5078
04:40:46,630 --> 04:40:48,650
SHOULD CONVINCE YOU OF THAT.

5079
04:40:48,650 --> 04:40:51,665
THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONSULTATION WITH

5080
04:40:52,350 --> 04:40:53,360
CURRENT RESIDENCE ON SCOPE AND

5081
04:40:53,360 --> 04:40:55,380
DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. MOREOVER ALL

5082
04:40:55,380 --> 04:40:57,438
OVER THE BUILDING WILL

5083
04:40:58,750 --> 04:41:00,475
BE SITUATED NEAR THE

5084
04:41:01,780 --> 04:41:03,780
FOREST

5085
04:41:04,810 --> 04:41:06,810
GLEN METRO STATION.

5086
04:41:07,840 --> 04:41:09,484
ALTHOUGH THE SECTOR PLAN,

5087
04:41:10,870 --> 04:41:11,880
AS

5088
04:41:11,880 --> 04:41:12,890
WAS MENTIONED, THE SECTOR PLAN RECOMMENDS A

5089
04:41:12,890 --> 04:41:13,900
REDUCTION IN PARKING TO THE GREATEST SIX

5090
04:41:13,900 --> 04:41:15,900
POSSIBLE

5091
04:41:15,920 --> 04:41:18,950
TO ENCOURAGE USE OF THE METROWEST TRANSPORTATION.

5092
04:41:18,950 --> 04:41:19,960
IN THIS LAST ISSUE, THE PARKING OF

5093
04:41:19,960 --> 04:41:21,960
CARS IS THE

5094
04:41:22,990 --> 04:41:25,680
GREATEST CONCERN TO US AND THE

5095
04:41:25,680 --> 04:41:27,680
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

5096
04:41:31,740 --> 04:41:32,750
INTRODUCTION OF THESE 400

5097
04:41:32,750 --> 04:41:33,760
ADDITIONAL CARS, OR EVEN MORE INTO AN

5098
04:41:33,760 --> 04:41:34,770
AREA WHERE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY EXTREMELY CONGESTED, FURTHERMORE THE MAIN ACCESS

5099
04:41:34,770 --> 04:41:36,770
TO THE PROPOSED

5100
04:41:36,790 --> 04:41:39,820
BUILDING ARISE IS GOOD TO BE ON WOODLAND AVENUE

5101
04:41:39,820 --> 04:41:40,830
WHICH WE'VE SEEN SKETCHES OF TO A

5102
04:41:40,830 --> 04:41:42,830
RELATIVELY

5103
04:41:42,850 --> 04:41:45,685
QUIET STREET YOU SPITE COMMUTERS WALKING

5104
04:41:46,890 --> 04:41:47,900
TO THE

5105
04:41:47,900 --> 04:41:48,910
METRO STATION AND CHILDREN WALKING

5106
04:41:48,910 --> 04:41:49,920
ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL. IN ADDITION

5107
04:41:49,920 --> 04:41:51,920
ON DAYS

5108
04:41:53,960 --> 04:41:55,980
CARS, WILL DOUBTLESS JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY

5109
04:41:55,980 --> 04:41:57,980
OF PEDESTRIANS.

5110
04:41:57,100 --> 04:41:58,680
ALSO MANY STREETS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED

5111
04:41:58,680 --> 04:42:00,680
PLACES WHERE

5112
04:42:01,710 --> 04:42:03,471
PEOPLE LIVE ARE QUITE

5113
04:42:04,740 --> 04:42:06,740
NARROW. >>

5114
04:42:06,760 --> 04:42:07,770
THIS MASSIVE INFUSION OF NEW TRAFFIC

5115
04:42:07,770 --> 04:42:08,780
IN THESE AREAS AND NARROW

5116
04:42:08,780 --> 04:42:10,800
STREETS WILL SURELY VERY SHORTLY LEAD

5117
04:42:10,800 --> 04:42:12,800
TO SIGNIFICANT

5118
04:42:15,850 --> 04:42:16,860
INCREASE IN COLLISIONS WITH CARS AND PEOPLE AT

5119
04:42:16,860 --> 04:42:17,870
THE INTERSECTIONS OF CARS WITH THEM

5120
04:42:17,870 --> 04:42:19,890
INTRODUCED ONTO THE STREET. DESPITE

5121
04:42:19,890 --> 04:42:20,900
THE SIGNIFICANT

5122
04:42:20,900 --> 04:42:22,920
CONCERNS EXPRESSED MANY TIMES, DEVELOPERS

5123
04:42:22,920 --> 04:42:24,920
RESIST THE COMMISSIONERS

5124
04:42:27,970 --> 04:42:28,980
DO A TRAFFIC STUDY WHICH WE THINK IS

5125
04:42:28,980 --> 04:42:29,990
ESSENTIAL FOR THE FEASIBILITY AND

5126
04:42:29,990 --> 04:42:31,670
OVERALL SAFETY OF THIS PROJECT AM

5127
04:42:31,670 --> 04:42:33,467
I GETTING CUT OFF? >>

5128
04:42:34,700 --> 04:42:36,700
IN

5129
04:42:37,730 --> 04:42:39,473
SUM, WE HAVE CONCERNS.

5130
04:42:40,760 --> 04:42:42,780
AND WE HAVE MANY CONCERNS

5131
04:42:42,780 --> 04:42:45,810
THAT AMY RAISED, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT,

5132
04:42:45,810 --> 04:42:46,820
AMY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. >>

5133
04:42:46,820 --> 04:42:48,820
THANK YOU.

5134
04:42:49,850 --> 04:42:51,850
>>

5135
04:42:52,880 --> 04:42:54,900
I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I WOULD LIKE

5136
04:42:54,900 --> 04:42:55,910
THAT PROJECTED. I'D LIKE TO THANK

5137
04:42:55,910 --> 04:42:57,910
THE BOARD.

5138
04:43:10,106 --> 04:43:13,106
I AM PLANNING TO ADDRESS

5139
04:43:13,109 --> 04:43:15,111
THE MATTERS MY NEIGHBOR ADDRESS.

5140
04:43:15,111 --> 04:43:16,112
SPECIFICALLY THE CONGESTION AND TO

5141
04:43:16,112 --> 04:43:19,112
SHOW THE CONTEXT FOR THE

5142
04:43:19,115 --> 04:43:21,115
AMOUNT OF CONGESTION

5143
04:43:23,119 --> 04:43:25,121
THAT 400 ADDITIONAL UNITS OF APARTMENTS

5144
04:43:25,121 --> 04:43:28,124
WITH CARS ASSOCIATED WITH 400 ADDITIONAL UNITS WILL CAUSE. THIS IS TO

5145
04:43:28,124 --> 04:43:31,124
BOLSTER THE POINT THAT THE

5146
04:43:31,127 --> 04:43:34,130
WOODLAND DRIVE ENTRANCE, WILL BE ABLE TO

5147
04:43:34,130 --> 04:43:37,130
MITIGATE THIS AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

5148
04:43:37,133 --> 04:43:40,733
AS YOU SEE THAT RED DOT,

5149
04:43:47,110 --> 04:43:48,111
IT LOOKS EAST ON FOREST GLEN ROAD,

5150
04:43:48,111 --> 04:43:49,112
THIS IS WHAT NEARLY EVERY MORNING,

5151
04:43:49,112 --> 04:43:51,114
FOREST GLEN HEADING UP TO GEORGIA AVENUE LOOKS

5152
04:43:51,114 --> 04:43:52,115
LIKE. IF YOU ZOOM IN THERE, YOU CAN

5153
04:43:52,115 --> 04:43:54,117
SEE THAT THE TRAFFIC REACHES NEARLY ALL THE WAY

5154
04:43:54,117 --> 04:43:55,118
BACK. RECENTLY, INC. PREPARATION FOR

5155
04:43:55,118 --> 04:43:58,121
THE MEETING, TOOK ANOTHER PHOTO. THIS IS RUSH-HOUR. TRAFFIC

5156
04:43:58,121 --> 04:44:01,121
BACKED UP ALL THE WAY

5157
04:44:04,127 --> 04:44:05,128
TO HOLY CROSS

5158
04:44:05,128 --> 04:44:06,129
HOSPITAL. YOU SEE THIS REDLINE NOW

5159
04:44:06,129 --> 04:44:07,130
WE ARE LOOKING WESTWARD ON FOREST GLEN, WE

5160
04:44:07,130 --> 04:44:09,132
SEE GEORGIA TRANSIT FROM LEFT

5161
04:44:09,132 --> 04:44:10,133
TO RIGHT. TRAFFIC BACKS UP THERE AND LOGICALLY CAUSES

5162
04:44:10,133 --> 04:44:12,133
TRAFFIC TO

5163
04:44:13,103 --> 04:44:15,105
BACK UP ON THE WOODLAND AVENUE ENTRANCE

5164
04:44:15,105 --> 04:44:18,108
THE CURRENT STATE, I WANTED TO PICK

5165
04:44:18,108 --> 04:44:19,109
IS VERY FREQUENTLY, THESE ARE THE LANES

5166
04:44:19,109 --> 04:44:21,109
FROM EAST

5167
04:44:22,112 --> 04:44:24,114
TO WEST. HE SAID THE NORTH FACING

5168
04:44:24,114 --> 04:44:28,914
ARROW, THAT LEADS UP TO GEORGIA AVENUE FROM

5169
04:44:33,123 --> 04:44:35,125
FOUR SLIM, SO IF YOU ARE A CAR ON

5170
04:44:35,125 --> 04:44:36,126
GEORGIA AVENUE AND YOU WANT TO GET

5171
04:44:36,126 --> 04:44:39,726
TO 495, SEEMS PRETTY SIMPLE WITHOUT CONGESTION,

5172
04:44:42,132 --> 04:44:43,133
ONCE THAT CONGESTION HAS THREE LANES GOING

5173
04:44:43,133 --> 04:44:44,100
WEST AND MULTIPLE LANES COMING EAST,

5174
04:44:44,100 --> 04:44:45,101
IT IS A NIGHTMARE. THE

5175
04:44:45,101 --> 04:44:47,103
SAME IF YOU WANT TO GO GEORGIA AVENUE SOUTH. >>

5176
04:44:47,103 --> 04:44:50,106
OR IF YOU WOULD GO EAST ON

5177
04:44:50,106 --> 04:44:53,106
FOREST GLEN, I'M NOT MAKING

5178
04:44:53,109 --> 04:44:54,110
THIS UP.

5179
04:44:54,110 --> 04:44:56,146
THIS IS WHAT EVERYDAY LOOKS LIKE.

5180
04:44:56,146 --> 04:44:58,546
ADDING 400 CARS TO THIS

5181
04:44:59,149 --> 04:45:01,149
INTERSECTION WILL

5182
04:45:02,152 --> 04:45:04,152
CAUSE COLLISIONS DUE

5183
04:45:05,155 --> 04:45:07,157
TO ALL THESE LINES OF TRAFFIC.

5184
04:45:07,157 --> 04:45:08,158
ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 400 CARS THIS

5185
04:45:08,158 --> 04:45:10,158
INTERSECTION, COMMON

5186
04:45:11,127 --> 04:45:14,127
SENSE WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC BACKUP

5187
04:45:15,131 --> 04:45:16,132
ON WOODLAND ARRIVES, AN UNIMPROVED RESIDENTIAL

5188
04:45:16,132 --> 04:45:17,133
STREET. WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN IF YOU HAVE

5189
04:45:17,133 --> 04:45:19,133
TRAFFIC ON

5190
04:45:20,103 --> 04:45:22,103
WOODLAND DRIVE,

5191
04:45:22,105 --> 04:45:23,106
RESIDENCE COMING AND GOING DURING RUSH

5192
04:45:23,106 --> 04:45:24,107
HOUR THEY CAN RECEIVE

5193
04:45:24,107 --> 04:45:25,108
THESE TWO ROWS IN DRIVE ON SHERWOOD

5194
04:45:25,108 --> 04:45:29,112
DRIVE TO GET AROUND THE TRAFFIC. IF

5195
04:45:29,112 --> 04:45:31,114
THEY GO EAST ON FOREST GLEN,

5196
04:45:31,114 --> 04:45:34,117
THEY ARE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DAMRON,

5197
04:45:34,117 --> 04:45:35,118
AND PUT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ONTO THESE

5198
04:45:35,118 --> 04:45:37,118
MINOR ROADS,

5199
04:45:38,121 --> 04:45:40,123
OR IF THEY ARE COMING HOME AND TRAFFIC

5200
04:45:40,123 --> 04:45:41,124
HAS CEASED ON NORTH GEORGIA AVENUE

5201
04:45:41,124 --> 04:45:42,125
THEY

5202
04:45:42,125 --> 04:45:44,127
CUT ACROSS THE OTHER WEIGHT TO GET

5203
04:45:44,127 --> 04:45:46,127
TO THE

5204
04:45:47,130 --> 04:45:49,130
WOODLAND DRIVE ENTRANCE.

5205
04:45:50,133 --> 04:45:54,933
OR THEY GO TO TILTON, ANOTHER IS EXTRAORDINARILY

5206
04:45:56,106 --> 04:45:57,107
NARROW ROAD.

5207
04:45:57,107 --> 04:45:58,108
THIS IS WHERE THE EXTRA CAPACITY IS

5208
04:45:58,108 --> 04:45:59,109
GOING TO FLOW, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I

5209
04:45:59,109 --> 04:46:01,111
DO SOMETIMES GET AROUND TOWN TRAFFIC. THESE ARE JUST

5210
04:46:01,111 --> 04:46:02,112
LINES OF THE ROAD. THESE ARE THE NARROW

5211
04:46:02,112 --> 04:46:05,115
STREETS. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT

5212
04:46:05,115 --> 04:46:07,115
NOW, THERE'S

5213
04:46:07,117 --> 04:46:11,121
NARROW STREETS WHERE MY DAUGHTER WILL WALK

5214
04:46:11,121 --> 04:46:12,122
AND BIKE TO SCHOOL.

5215
04:46:12,122 --> 04:46:14,124
THIS IS WHERE WE ALREADY BIKE AND WALK

5216
04:46:14,124 --> 04:46:16,124
TO AMENITIES

5217
04:46:16,126 --> 04:46:17,127
AND METRO. WITH THE WOODLAND DRIVE

5218
04:46:17,127 --> 04:46:19,127
ENTRANCE THAT HAS

5219
04:46:20,130 --> 04:46:22,130
TO ADD 500 MORE

5220
04:46:23,133 --> 04:46:25,101
CARS TO MITIGATE THESE RISKS,

5221
04:46:25,101 --> 04:46:26,102
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR CARS

5222
04:46:26,102 --> 04:46:28,102
AS THIS DEVELOPMENT

5223
04:46:29,105 --> 04:46:30,106
PROCEEDS.

5224
04:46:30,106 --> 04:46:32,108
PUTTING THAT NUMBER OF CARS NEXT TO

5225
04:46:32,108 --> 04:46:35,111
THE METRO, DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

5226
04:46:35,111 --> 04:46:38,111
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK

5227
04:46:38,114 --> 04:46:40,114
FOR

5228
04:46:41,117 --> 04:46:43,119
A REJECT AND REQUIRE THOSE

5229
04:46:43,119 --> 04:46:44,120
ITEMS IN FUTURE PROPOSALS. THANK YOU.

5230
04:46:44,120 --> 04:46:46,120
DENNIS,

5231
04:46:47,123 --> 04:46:49,123
O'BRIEN? >>

5232
04:46:50,126 --> 04:46:52,126
DENNIS? >>

5233
04:47:17,153 --> 04:47:19,153
PLEASE

5234
04:47:20,156 --> 04:47:22,156
PROCEED. >>

5235
04:47:23,159 --> 04:47:24,160
THANK YOU FOR

5236
04:47:24,160 --> 04:47:26,162
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. CATHERINE

5237
04:47:26,162 --> 04:47:29,162
AND I ARE 38 YEAR RESIDENCE

5238
04:47:29,165 --> 04:47:31,565
OF 9810 FOREST CODE DRIVE 700

5239
04:47:32,135 --> 04:47:35,135
FEET DUE EAST OF THE

5240
04:47:38,141 --> 04:47:39,142
PROPOSED

5241
04:47:39,142 --> 04:47:40,143
DEVELOPMENT. WE LOSE OUR CHILDREN

5242
04:47:40,143 --> 04:47:41,144
HERE, LOVE THE AREA, KNOW THE AREA VERY

5243
04:47:41,144 --> 04:47:42,145
WELL. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.

5244
04:47:42,145 --> 04:47:44,147
I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING

5245
04:47:44,147 --> 04:47:45,148
ABOUT RESPECT.

5246
04:47:45,148 --> 04:47:47,150
AS IT APPLIES TO DEVELOPERS SUBMITTED

5247
04:47:47,150 --> 04:47:49,150
SKETCH PLAN,

5248
04:47:53,156 --> 04:47:54,157
OXFORD DICTIONARY DEFINES IT AS GIVEN DULY REGARD TO THE

5249
04:47:54,157 --> 04:47:56,159
CONCERNS, FEELING, WISHES AND RIGHTS OF OTHERS.

5250
04:47:56,159 --> 04:47:58,161
SIMPLY PUT. THE SKETCH PLAN DOES NOT

5251
04:47:58,161 --> 04:47:59,162
WHATSOEVER RESPECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S

5252
04:47:59,162 --> 04:48:01,164
CHARACTER, AND THE CONCERNS AND RIGHTS

5253
04:48:01,164 --> 04:48:03,564
OF IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS

5254
04:48:13,143 --> 04:48:14,144
. IT FAILS TO INCORPORATE AND FAILS ON

5255
04:48:14,144 --> 04:48:15,145
ALL COUNTS TO INCORPORATE COMPATIBILITY. >> SPECIFICALLY,

5256
04:48:15,145 --> 04:48:16,146
IT INCREASES, NOT REDUCES, AS THE

5257
04:48:16,146 --> 04:48:17,147
SECTOR PLAN DEMANDS THE HEALTH RELATED IMPACTS

5258
04:48:17,147 --> 04:48:19,547
TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY

5259
04:48:20,150 --> 04:48:22,150
ASSOCIATED WITH

5260
04:48:25,155 --> 04:48:26,156
VEHICULAR CONFLICTS AND OMISSIONS. >>

5261
04:48:26,156 --> 04:48:27,157
THE SKETCH PLAN PRESENTS OVER 400

5262
04:48:27,157 --> 04:48:29,159
UNITS AND 500 PARKING SPACES AND A

5263
04:48:29,159 --> 04:48:31,159
MULTILEVEL GARAGE FOR

5264
04:48:32,162 --> 04:48:34,164
LITTLE USERS ACROSS THE STREET FROM A

5265
04:48:34,164 --> 04:48:35,165
METRO STATION . WE'VE HEARD THIS SEVERAL

5266
04:48:35,165 --> 04:48:37,165
TIMES TODAY. WHY?

5267
04:48:40,136 --> 04:48:41,137
OF COURSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A WALK

5268
04:48:41,137 --> 04:48:43,137
SCORE OF

5269
04:48:44,140 --> 04:48:47,143
60. WHICH MEANS, YOU NEED A WALK

5270
04:48:47,143 --> 04:48:49,143
--A CAR

5271
04:48:49,145 --> 04:48:50,146
TO GET AROUND. THE DEVELOPER KNOWS

5272
04:48:50,146 --> 04:48:52,146
THIS. THE

5273
04:48:53,183 --> 04:48:55,183
NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY

5274
04:48:57,187 --> 04:48:59,189
IS PRE-WORLD WAR II. YOU'VE HEARD

5275
04:48:59,189 --> 04:49:02,192
THAT, YOU'VE SEEN THE PICTURES. THE STREETS ARE 20

5276
04:49:02,192 --> 04:49:05,195
FOOT WIDE. OFTEN CARS ON BOTH SIDES AS YOU JUST

5277
04:49:05,195 --> 04:49:07,197
SAW IN THE PICTURE, THE STREET CANNOT

5278
04:49:07,197 --> 04:49:08,198
HANDLE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT ARE

5279
04:49:08,198 --> 04:49:10,198
GOING TO OCCUR.

5280
04:49:11,167 --> 04:49:14,167
EVEN THE DEVELOPERS RESUBMITTED FORM

5281
04:49:14,170 --> 04:49:16,170
SK301, NOW SHOWS

5282
04:49:20,176 --> 04:49:23,179
SHERWOOD BEING USED AS CUTTERS OFF OF WOODLAND TO AVOID

5283
04:49:23,179 --> 04:49:24,180
THE CONDITION IN WHICH A SAW. THE

5284
04:49:24,180 --> 04:49:25,181
DEVELOPER

5285
04:49:25,181 --> 04:49:28,184
PLANS FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO BE ON

5286
04:49:28,184 --> 04:49:30,186
WOODLAND DRIVE AND SHEFFIELD ROAD IS

5287
04:49:30,186 --> 04:49:32,186
SEEN FROM

5288
04:49:33,189 --> 04:49:35,191
THE PICTURES. OFTEN THERE ARE CARS PARKED ON EITHER SIDE

5289
04:49:35,191 --> 04:49:38,194
OF THE PROPERTY. ACCIDENTS AND PROPERTY,

5290
04:49:38,194 --> 04:49:39,195
UNFORTUNATELY WILL OCCUR AS CARS EXIT THE

5291
04:49:39,195 --> 04:49:41,195
DEVELOPMENT ENDS

5292
04:49:42,198 --> 04:49:44,200
READ EAST . THE MAIN ENTRANCE

5293
04:49:44,200 --> 04:49:47,200
, LOCATION TOTALLY DISRESPECTS THE NEIGHBORS

5294
04:49:51,174 --> 04:49:53,176
CHARACTER, IN THE RESIDENCE. IT SHOULD NOT BE

5295
04:49:53,176 --> 04:49:56,776
PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PERIOD.

5296
04:50:00,183 --> 04:50:01,184
THAT WAS A CASE YEARS AGO WHEN

5297
04:50:01,184 --> 04:50:02,185
THE MEDICAL BUILDING WAS PERMITTED, AND IT

5298
04:50:02,185 --> 04:50:03,186
NEEDS TO BE NOW. THE SAFETY OF NEIGHBORHOOD PEDESTRIANS

5299
04:50:03,186 --> 04:50:04,187
KEEPING WITH THE

5300
04:50:04,187 --> 04:50:06,189
GOAL OF ZERO IS TO BE CONSIDERED.

5301
04:50:06,189 --> 04:50:08,589
I WANT TO COMPARE

5302
04:50:09,192 --> 04:50:11,192
TO SOMEONE

5303
04:50:12,195 --> 04:50:14,195
DEVELOPMENT

5304
04:50:15,198 --> 04:50:16,199
IN

5305
04:50:16,199 --> 04:50:17,200
WHEATON FOREST. THIS IS THE OTHER DAY.

5306
04:50:17,200 --> 04:50:18,167
THIS IS WE DIDN'T FOREST THESE ARE

5307
04:50:18,167 --> 04:50:20,167
APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

5308
04:50:21,170 --> 04:50:23,570
WHAT WE HAVE ON

5309
04:50:24,173 --> 04:50:27,176
AMHERST AT THE CORNER PREACHER, THOSE ARE

5310
04:50:27,176 --> 04:50:29,176
SINGLE-FAMILY TOWNHOMES, WITH

5311
04:50:30,179 --> 04:50:32,181
THREE CAR GARAGES. IT BLENDS IN

5312
04:50:32,181 --> 04:50:33,182
WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S AN IDEAL,

5313
04:50:33,182 --> 04:50:35,182
NOT FROM

5314
04:50:36,185 --> 04:50:38,185
MOST

5315
04:50:38,187 --> 04:50:39,188
PERSPECTIVES, IS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER

5316
04:50:39,188 --> 04:50:40,189
THAN

5317
04:50:40,189 --> 04:50:42,191
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

5318
04:50:42,191 --> 04:50:44,591
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR

5319
04:50:45,194 --> 04:50:47,194
TESTIMONY. >>

5320
04:50:47,196 --> 04:50:48,197
CATHERINE AND I AND MANY OTHERS LOOKING

5321
04:50:48,197 --> 04:50:51,797
FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THOUGHTFUL

5322
04:50:58,207 --> 04:50:59,208
AND CONSIDERATE, AND ATTENTIVE TO

5323
04:50:59,208 --> 04:51:00,209
IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORING CONCERNS. IN A

5324
04:51:00,209 --> 04:51:01,210
WORD, RESPECT. THE SKETCH PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU AND CONSIDERATION

5325
04:51:01,210 --> 04:51:03,212
SHOWS NO SUCH RESPECT. IT'S FALLS

5326
04:51:03,212 --> 04:51:07,412
SHORT IS REGARDS, I URGE YOU TO

5327
04:51:08,217 --> 04:51:09,218
DISAPPROVE IT AT THIS TIME. DO NOT

5328
04:51:09,218 --> 04:51:12,221
ACCEPT IT, AND KEEP IT IN THE CONDITIONS

5329
04:51:12,221 --> 04:51:15,224
THAT ARE EXPECTED . I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

5330
04:51:15,224 --> 04:51:17,224
MICHAEL SAID DARA. >>

5331
04:51:18,227 --> 04:51:20,227
HELLO,

5332
04:51:21,230 --> 04:51:26,300
HI FOLKS, I AM MIKE, I GREW UP

5333
04:51:27,203 --> 04:51:29,203
IN

5334
04:51:30,206 --> 04:51:32,206
THE AREA.

5335
04:51:33,209 --> 04:51:34,210
THE FIRST PURCHASE IN 20 MINUTES,

5336
04:51:34,210 --> 04:51:36,212
I HAVEN'T MISSED THE FIRST PITCH IN 20

5337
04:51:36,212 --> 04:51:38,212
YEARS. >>

5338
04:51:39,215 --> 04:51:40,216
MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS SAFETY OF

5339
04:51:40,216 --> 04:51:43,816
PEDESTRIANS. I WONDER ABOUT THE 500 SPACE

5340
04:51:44,220 --> 04:51:45,221
PARKING GARAGE WITH HIS MAIN ENGINES

5341
04:51:45,221 --> 04:51:47,621
UNDER WOODLAND WHICH IS

5342
04:51:48,224 --> 04:51:51,227
A SMALL RESIDENTIAL ROAD. >> THE INTEREST SHOULD

5343
04:51:51,227 --> 04:51:53,229
COME OFF OF THE LOWEST CLASSIFIED

5344
04:51:53,229 --> 04:51:57,233
ROAD UNLESS THAT ROAD IS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD

5345
04:51:57,233 --> 04:51:58,201
.

5346
04:51:58,201 --> 04:51:59,202
WHY'S THAT. I IMAGINE IT'S BECAUSE OF MAJOR GARAGE

5347
04:51:59,202 --> 04:52:02,802
ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET IS DISRUPT.

5348
04:52:03,206 --> 04:52:05,206
I THINK

5349
04:52:05,208 --> 04:52:06,209
THE KEY QUESTION IS SHOULD WE ALLOW

5350
04:52:06,209 --> 04:52:08,211
AN EXCEPTION? SHOULD WE ALLOW AN

5351
04:52:08,211 --> 04:52:09,212
EXCEPTION WITH THE DEVELOPER TO PUT

5352
04:52:09,212 --> 04:52:11,212
A ROAD

5353
04:52:12,215 --> 04:52:14,215
OFF OF IT?

5354
04:52:15,218 --> 04:52:16,219
A SINGLE

5355
04:52:16,219 --> 04:52:17,220
ENTRANCE ON GEORGIA WOULD BE CONVENIENT,

5356
04:52:17,220 --> 04:52:18,221
BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE

5357
04:52:18,221 --> 04:52:20,621
A RIGHT IN AND

5358
04:52:21,224 --> 04:52:23,224
WRITE OUT.

5359
04:52:23,226 --> 04:52:24,227
I WOULD AGREE. IT'S INCONVENIENT. THIS

5360
04:52:24,227 --> 04:52:26,229
IS A TRICKY PROBLEM

5361
04:52:26,229 --> 04:52:31,290
THAT AMY HAS HIGHLIGHTED. WHY DO I CARE?

5362
04:52:31,234 --> 04:52:33,202
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MERRILL ROAD, IT'S

5363
04:52:33,202 --> 04:52:36,205
A NARROW STREET, NO SIDEWALKS. NOTE

5364
04:52:36,205 --> 04:52:37,206
CROSSWALKS. WALKING TRAFFIC. WE

5365
04:52:37,206 --> 04:52:39,208
WALK DAILY WITH OUR 7-YEAR-OLD MAX TO

5366
04:52:39,208 --> 04:52:42,211
THE BUS STOP TO GET TO THE BUS

5367
04:52:42,211 --> 04:52:43,212
STOP. HE

5368
04:52:43,212 --> 04:52:45,214
RIDES HIS BIKE BACK AND FORTH, WE

5369
04:52:45,214 --> 04:52:47,216
WALK DAILY WITH 4-YEAR-OLD JOSH DOWN THE HILL

5370
04:52:47,216 --> 04:52:48,217
TO THE PRESCHOOL. MY WIFE COMMUTES DOWN

5371
04:52:48,217 --> 04:52:50,217
MYRTLE, SHE'S

5372
04:52:51,254 --> 04:52:53,254
THE ONE

5373
04:52:54,257 --> 04:52:57,257
THAT COMMUTES TO HOLY CROSS.

5374
04:52:57,260 --> 04:52:59,260
SHE WALKS.

5375
04:53:02,265 --> 04:53:03,266
EVEN AS AN ADULT SHE HAS TO BE CAREFUL WALKING BECAUSE

5376
04:53:03,266 --> 04:53:04,267
THE CARS CAN'T SEE

5377
04:53:04,267 --> 04:53:06,235
HER WITH A BIG HILL GOING DOWN. WHAT

5378
04:53:06,235 --> 04:53:10,435
IS CAN HAPPEN WITH COMMUTERS THAT CUT

5379
04:53:12,241 --> 04:53:13,242
THROUGH TO

5380
04:53:13,242 --> 04:53:14,243
GET TO MYRTLE. >> THEY ARE GOING TO

5381
04:53:14,243 --> 04:53:15,244
DRIVE PAST THE BUS STOP, PAST THE PRESCHOOL

5382
04:53:15,244 --> 04:53:16,245
WITH PARENTS AND KIDS WALKING

5383
04:53:16,245 --> 04:53:18,247
ON A NARROW STREET, NO SIDEWALKS,

5384
04:53:18,247 --> 04:53:20,647
NO CROSSWALKS, BAD VISIBILITY.

5385
04:53:36,265 --> 04:53:37,266
WHAT DO I PROPOSE?

5386
04:53:37,266 --> 04:53:38,234
I ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A DIFFICULT

5387
04:53:38,234 --> 04:53:39,235
PLACE TO PUT A GARAGE. BUT I SEE THIS AS

5388
04:53:39,235 --> 04:53:40,236
A CHOICE THAT IS BEING

5389
04:53:40,236 --> 04:53:42,238
MADE BY THE DEVELOPER. IT'S A CHOICE BETWEEN

5390
04:53:42,238 --> 04:53:43,239
THE CONVENIENCE OF CAR COMMUTERS AND THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS.

5391
04:53:43,239 --> 04:53:44,240
IT'S A CHOICE BETWEEN THE CONVENIENCE

5392
04:53:44,240 --> 04:53:45,241
OF CAR COMMUTERS, AND THE SAFETY OF

5393
04:53:45,241 --> 04:53:46,242
OUR KIDS. IF YOU MAKE THE

5394
04:53:46,242 --> 04:53:47,243
SOUL ENTRANCE OFF OF GEORGIA JUST

5395
04:53:47,243 --> 04:53:48,244
LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET,

5396
04:53:48,244 --> 04:53:49,245
IT WILL BE INCONVENIENT. SO INCONVENIENT, AND MIGHT

5397
04:53:49,245 --> 04:53:50,246
ENCOURAGE SOME PEACE AND PEOPLE TO

5398
04:53:50,246 --> 04:53:51,247
USE METRO. >> WHY AM I SO FOCUSED

5399
04:53:51,247 --> 04:53:53,247
ON THIS

5400
04:53:54,250 --> 04:53:56,250
ONE THING?

5401
04:53:57,253 --> 04:53:58,254
AS A MEMBER TO COME IS BECAUSE

5402
04:53:58,254 --> 04:54:00,256
OF THE THINGS CAN CHANGE BETWEEN SKETCH PLAN

5403
04:54:00,256 --> 04:54:02,258
AND SITE PLAN, BUT THE MAIN

5404
04:54:02,258 --> 04:54:03,259
PURPOSE OF THE SKETCH PLAN IS TO DEFINE

5405
04:54:03,259 --> 04:54:06,859
WHERE THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS GO.

5406
04:54:09,265 --> 04:54:10,266
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING, OR MAYBE WE WILL CHANGE

5407
04:54:10,266 --> 04:54:12,235
IT LATER, WE APPROVE IT NOW, WE ARE

5408
04:54:12,235 --> 04:54:17,350
SAYING THIS ENTRANCE IS OKAY. WE ARE SAYING

5409
04:54:18,207 --> 04:54:19,208
THAT CONVENIENCE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SAFETY. I URGE YOU

5410
04:54:19,208 --> 04:54:20,209
TO PLEASE REJECT THIS PLAN, SEND IT

5411
04:54:20,209 --> 04:54:21,210
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. IT WON'T

5412
04:54:21,210 --> 04:54:22,211
KILL THE PROJECT AND A FEW

5413
04:54:22,211 --> 04:54:23,212
MONTHS DELAY IS WORTH KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES

5414
04:54:23,212 --> 04:54:24,213
SAFE. [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

5415
04:54:24,213 --> 04:54:26,213
>>

5416
04:54:40,229 --> 04:54:41,230
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM THE COPRESIDENT OF THE

5417
04:54:41,230 --> 04:54:42,231
FOREST ASSOCIATION WHICH SERVES OVER

5418
04:54:42,231 --> 04:54:44,631
100 HOMES ADJACENT TO THIS

5419
04:54:45,201 --> 04:54:46,202
DEVELOPMENT. THE MAJORITY OF OUR ASSOCIATION

5420
04:54:46,202 --> 04:54:48,204
SUPPORTS THIS SITE BUT NONE OF THE SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT

5421
04:54:48,204 --> 04:54:50,204
THAT CONTRADICTS

5422
04:54:50,239 --> 04:54:51,240
THE LAW AND SECTOR PLAN. ON BEHALF OF

5423
04:54:51,240 --> 04:54:53,240
THE ASSOCIATION

5424
04:54:53,242 --> 04:54:54,243
WE ASK THIS GETS DENIED. THE SECTOR PLAN

5425
04:54:54,243 --> 04:54:55,244
REQUIRES MATCHING

5426
04:54:55,244 --> 04:54:57,246
THE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT OF THE

5427
04:54:57,246 --> 04:54:59,246
COUNTY, APPROACHING

5428
04:55:00,249 --> 04:55:02,249
NOW ALMOST $40 MILLION.

5429
04:55:02,251 --> 04:55:06,255
ONE OF THOSE IS 10% OF THE MUNICIPAL AFFORDABLE

5430
04:55:06,255 --> 04:55:08,255
AND 100% OR LESS

5431
04:55:09,258 --> 04:55:11,258
OF AMI.

5432
04:55:15,264 --> 04:55:17,264
THEY

5433
04:55:17,266 --> 04:55:18,234
SAY THE LAND IS NOT WORTH ENOUGH TO BUILD

5434
04:55:18,234 --> 04:55:20,234
ABOVE

5435
04:55:20,236 --> 04:55:21,237
78 FEET. THE BUILDING HIGHER WOULD

5436
04:55:21,237 --> 04:55:23,237
BE THE ONLY

5437
04:55:24,240 --> 04:55:26,242
WAY TO MAKE PROFIT THE

5438
04:55:26,242 --> 04:55:27,243
AMI REQUIRES. THAT IS ILLOGICAL AND

5439
04:55:27,243 --> 04:55:29,243
UNSUPPORTED. THE DEVELOPER

5440
04:55:30,246 --> 04:55:32,646
IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT BUILDER

5441
04:55:33,249 --> 04:55:35,249
BUILDING HIGHER

5442
04:55:39,255 --> 04:55:41,255
IS THE

5443
04:55:42,258 --> 04:55:44,258
HEIGHT LIMIT REQUIRED.

5444
04:55:45,261 --> 04:55:46,262
THE BOARD SHOULD REJECT THE 78

5445
04:55:46,262 --> 04:55:48,264
FOOT MAXIMUM AND DEMAND COMPLIANCE

5446
04:55:48,264 --> 04:55:50,664
WITH A 10% AMI REQUIREMENT

5447
04:55:51,267 --> 04:55:53,267
IN THE OTHER

5448
04:55:54,237 --> 04:55:55,238
SECTOR REQUIREMENTS.

5449
04:55:55,238 --> 04:55:57,240
IT AUTHORIZES BUILDING UP TO 120 FEET AND

5450
04:55:57,240 --> 04:56:00,242
THAT IS HOW YOU COMPLY. THAT IS WHY CONSTRUCTION EXPERTS

5451
04:56:00,242 --> 04:56:02,242
AND INVESTORS

5452
04:56:06,248 --> 04:56:07,249
CONFIRM IF YOU DO THAT YOU CAN MAKE TENS

5453
04:56:07,249 --> 04:56:08,251
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROFIT. THE

5454
04:56:08,251 --> 04:56:09,252
DEVELOPER WANTS MORE PROFIT BY FORGOING

5455
04:56:09,252 --> 04:56:11,252
SECTOR REQUIREMENTS.

5456
04:56:12,255 --> 04:56:13,256
THE PLAN ALSO DEMANDS A SAFE

5457
04:56:13,256 --> 04:56:15,258
AND INEFFICIENT ENTRANCE TO THE METRO

5458
04:56:15,258 --> 04:56:17,258
THAT WILL DETER

5459
04:56:17,259 --> 04:56:18,260
THE USE OF WOODLAND DRIVE AND WILL

5460
04:56:18,260 --> 04:56:20,260
COMPLETELY CONTAIN

5461
04:56:21,263 --> 04:56:23,263
ON-SITE ACCESSIBLE

5462
04:56:24,266 --> 04:56:26,266
WOODLAND DRIVE.

5463
04:56:27,236 --> 04:56:29,236
WHAT IS THE

5464
04:56:30,239 --> 04:56:32,239
PROPOSAL HERE?

5465
04:56:32,241 --> 04:56:33,242
IT HAS PARKING ON WOODLAND DRIVE,

5466
04:56:33,242 --> 04:56:36,245
EXACTLY WITH THE SECTOR PLAN SAID

5467
04:56:36,245 --> 04:56:39,248
NOT TO DO. AGAIN , THE DEVELOPERS SUPPORT FOR

5468
04:56:39,248 --> 04:56:42,251
THIS IS THE 78 FOOT HEIGHT MAXIMUM

5469
04:56:42,251 --> 04:56:44,253
. AS THEY PUT IT, THEY NEED ALL

5470
04:56:44,253 --> 04:56:45,254
ACTIVATING GROUND USAGES BECAUSE OF

5471
04:56:45,254 --> 04:56:48,254
THE HEIGHT LIMIT TO USE

5472
04:56:48,291 --> 04:56:50,293
FOR PARKING AND THE APARTMENTS. THE DEDICATED

5473
04:56:50,293 --> 04:56:51,294
RIGHT WAS ALSO TO BE THE ONLY ENTRANCE

5474
04:56:51,294 --> 04:56:53,694
FOR THE SITE ON

5475
04:56:54,296 --> 04:56:56,298
WOODLAND DRIVE. THE COUNCIL KNEW

5476
04:56:56,298 --> 04:56:57,299
THIS WOULD BE UNSAFE. THAT IS WHY THE

5477
04:56:57,299 --> 04:56:59,299
ZONING BOARD

5478
04:57:00,269 --> 04:57:02,271
BANNED ANY COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY

5479
04:57:02,271 --> 04:57:03,272
ON THIS SITE FOR OVER 55 YEARS. PROVIDING

5480
04:57:03,272 --> 04:57:05,272
PUBLIC ACCESS

5481
04:57:06,275 --> 04:57:07,276
TO

5482
04:57:07,276 --> 04:57:08,277
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, NOT THE DEVELOPMENT

5483
04:57:08,277 --> 04:57:09,278
IS THE ONLY REASON TO ALLOW A SMALL DRIVEWAY

5484
04:57:09,278 --> 04:57:11,678
ON WOODLAND AND THAT

5485
04:57:12,281 --> 04:57:15,284
IS WHY THE SECTOR PLAN DIRECTS TO MAINTAIN THE DRIVEWAY

5486
04:57:15,284 --> 04:57:17,284
ON GEORGIA. FOR

5487
04:57:18,287 --> 04:57:21,290
ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT. AS EVERYONE

5488
04:57:21,290 --> 04:57:23,292
KNOWS 20 TO 30 TIMES FEWER PEDESTRIANS

5489
04:57:23,292 --> 04:57:24,293
TRAVERSE THE GEORGIA DRIVEWAY THEN

5490
04:57:24,293 --> 04:57:26,293
ON WOODLAND. THE

5491
04:57:27,296 --> 04:57:29,298
DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO GO HUGE

5492
04:57:29,298 --> 04:57:32,898
, UNSAFE ABUTTED ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

5493
04:57:36,272 --> 04:57:38,274
DESPITE UNCOUPLING PARKING AND

5494
04:57:38,274 --> 04:57:40,674
CLAIMING 25 PUBLIC BENEFIT POINTS

5495
04:57:42,278 --> 04:57:45,278
THE DEVELOPERS DEMANDED THE OPPOSITE

5496
04:57:45,281 --> 04:57:47,281
INTERACTS KING

5497
04:57:48,284 --> 04:57:51,884
AND ARE ASKING FOR MORE SPACES.

5498
04:57:57,293 --> 04:58:00,293
THE DEVELOPER OPPOSES CLEARCUTTING THE

5499
04:58:00,296 --> 04:58:02,296
EXISTING 1.25 ACRE BUFFER

5500
04:58:02,298 --> 04:58:03,299
AND REPLACING 80% OF IT WITH CONCRETE

5501
04:58:03,299 --> 04:58:05,299
STRUCTURES, 80%.

5502
04:58:06,268 --> 04:58:09,271
TO BE CLEAR, THAT FOREST IS ONE ACRE, NOT

5503
04:58:09,271 --> 04:58:11,271
.4 ACRES.

5504
04:58:12,274 --> 04:58:14,276
OF THAT FOREST, WE KNOW

5505
04:58:14,276 --> 04:58:15,277
FROM LOOKING AT IT WITH OUR OWN EYES, NOT ON

5506
04:58:15,277 --> 04:58:17,279
THE SATELLITE PHOTO GOING DOWN THERE AND MEASURING

5507
04:58:17,279 --> 04:58:18,280
OUT ONE FULL ACRE OF OVER 100 TREES,

5508
04:58:18,280 --> 04:58:21,280
50% OF WHICH ARE MORE THAN

5509
04:58:21,283 --> 04:58:24,286
TWO INCHES OF THE LAW REQUIRES. THE

5510
04:58:24,286 --> 04:58:26,288
REST OF IT WAS LEGALLY CUT AND DUMPED ON BY

5511
04:58:26,288 --> 04:58:29,888
THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER. HE DID

5512
04:58:30,292 --> 04:58:33,292
PLAN TO CHOP DOWN 100-YEAR-OLD

5513
04:58:33,295 --> 04:58:35,297
CHERRY BLOSSOM TREES THAT ARE TREASURES

5514
04:58:35,297 --> 04:58:39,268
FOR THE STATE AND MUST BE PRESERVED.

5515
04:58:39,268 --> 04:58:42,268
THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT PROVIDING

5516
04:58:42,271 --> 04:58:46,471
THE ONE HALF ACRE SUBURBAN GREEN PARK

5517
04:58:51,313 --> 04:58:53,313
. INSTEAD, WE

5518
04:58:53,315 --> 04:58:54,316
HAVE A BROKEN, AND USABLE SPACE THAT OVERLAPS WITH COMMERCIAL SEATING, PROPOSED RETAIL,

5519
04:58:54,316 --> 04:58:57,319
INCLUDING SIDEWALKS, ELEVATORS, STAIRS AND UNUSABLE

5520
04:58:57,319 --> 04:58:59,319
CONCRETE ELEMENTS.

5521
04:58:59,321 --> 04:59:00,322
THIS AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE HOSTING

5522
04:59:00,322 --> 04:59:02,324
COMMUNITY EVENTS AND NEIGHBORING FESTIVALS. IT WOULD BE ABUTTING

5523
04:59:02,324 --> 04:59:05,324
TO A DANGEROUS GEORGIA INTERSECTION.

5524
04:59:05,327 --> 04:59:06,328
KIDS COULD EASILY RUN INTO THE STREET

5525
04:59:06,328 --> 04:59:08,328
DURING FESTIVALS

5526
04:59:09,331 --> 04:59:10,332
AND DIE DURING THE VERY EVENTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HOSTING.

5527
04:59:10,332 --> 04:59:12,301
AMY ALSO COVERED THAT THE DENSITY

5528
04:59:12,301 --> 04:59:14,303
AND HEIGHT IS NOT BEING

5529
04:59:14,303 --> 04:59:15,304
MASSED ON GEORGIA AVENUE WHERE IT IS

5530
04:59:15,304 --> 04:59:18,904
SUPPOSED TO. THAT IS BECAUSE THE

5531
04:59:19,308 --> 04:59:21,708
70 FOOT ARTIFICIAL LIMIT THIS

5532
04:59:22,311 --> 04:59:24,313
PLAN SUPPOSES PROHIBITS IT. THE

5533
04:59:24,313 --> 04:59:26,315
DEVELOPER ALSO WANT PROVIDE THE RECOMMENDED

5534
04:59:26,315 --> 04:59:28,317
CHILDCARE FACILITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE

5535
04:59:28,317 --> 04:59:29,318
ENOUGH OPEN SPACE.

5536
04:59:29,318 --> 04:59:31,320
AGAIN, THAT IS A PROBLEM OF THEIR

5537
04:59:31,320 --> 04:59:33,320
OWN MAKING.

5538
04:59:34,323 --> 04:59:36,325
THE SKETCH PLAN IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH

5539
04:59:36,325 --> 04:59:37,326
THE SECTOR PLAN, BUILDING TWO 120

5540
04:59:37,326 --> 04:59:39,326
FEET.

5541
04:59:40,329 --> 04:59:42,329
HEIGHT DENSITY , NO.

5542
04:59:43,332 --> 04:59:45,332
WOODLAND DRIVEWAY

5543
04:59:46,302 --> 04:59:47,303
FOR METRO, NO.

5544
04:59:47,303 --> 04:59:51,503
METRO DROP-OFF ON WOODLAND, NO. MAXIMUM REDUCTION

5545
04:59:52,308 --> 04:59:55,308
PARKING, NO. PROPER URBAN GREEN

5546
04:59:55,311 --> 04:59:57,311
PARK, NO.

5547
04:59:57,313 --> 04:59:58,314
RESERVING AND RESTORING HABITAT, NO.

5548
04:59:58,314 --> 05:00:01,314
CHILDCARE FACILITY, NO. 10% MI, NO.

5549
05:00:01,317 --> 05:00:03,317
THAT IS 10

5550
05:00:04,320 --> 05:00:06,322
NO ANSWERS AND WE ASK

5551
05:00:06,322 --> 05:00:09,922
YOU DENIED THIS PROPOSAL. >> THANK YOU.

5552
05:00:10,326 --> 05:00:13,926
IF I COULD HAVE THE NEXT

5553
05:00:16,332 --> 05:00:18,332
SPEAKER

5554
05:00:19,301 --> 05:00:21,301
.

5555
05:00:25,307 --> 05:00:27,707
THE WHOLE GROUP CAN

5556
05:00:28,310 --> 05:00:31,910
COME FORWARD AS I CALL THEM.

5557
05:01:01,343 --> 05:01:03,343
YOU CAN

5558
05:01:04,346 --> 05:01:06,346
PROCEED. >>

5559
05:01:10,352 --> 05:01:12,352
THANK YOU MR.

5560
05:01:13,355 --> 05:01:16,358
CHAIR AND THE PLANNING BOARD. I LIVE

5561
05:01:16,358 --> 05:01:18,358
IN THE FOREST

5562
05:01:19,361 --> 05:01:22,361
GLEN AREA AND HAVE FOR 20

5563
05:01:22,364 --> 05:01:25,334
YEARS. I HAVE TWO PAGES, TWO

5564
05:01:25,334 --> 05:01:26,335
FULL PAGES

5565
05:01:26,335 --> 05:01:28,337
OF TEXT I WANT TO READ BUT THE FOLKS

5566
05:01:28,337 --> 05:01:29,338
AROUND ME DID SUCH A PARTICULAR

5567
05:01:29,338 --> 05:01:31,340
GOOD JOB I WILL RELIEVE US FROM THE TEDIUM.

5568
05:01:31,340 --> 05:01:34,343
I DO WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

5569
05:01:34,343 --> 05:01:36,345
I WANT TO PROJECT THIS

5570
05:01:36,345 --> 05:01:37,346
BACK THAT I AM SHOWING AND I HOPE

5571
05:01:37,346 --> 05:01:39,346
YOU CAN

5572
05:01:40,349 --> 05:01:42,351
SEE THIS. IT IS TO SAY

5573
05:01:42,351 --> 05:01:43,352
THAT I WANT TO REFUTE THE CLAIM THAT

5574
05:01:43,352 --> 05:01:45,752
IS BEEN MADE OVER

5575
05:01:46,355 --> 05:01:47,356
AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT

5576
05:01:47,356 --> 05:01:49,358
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMUNITY. THAT

5577
05:01:49,358 --> 05:01:51,358
IS NOT

5578
05:01:51,360 --> 05:01:52,361
SO. THERE IS NO COMMUNITY SUPPORT AS

5579
05:01:52,361 --> 05:01:54,361
YOU

5580
05:01:55,364 --> 05:01:57,764
CAN SEE. THIS MAP

5581
05:02:01,337 --> 05:02:03,339
SHOWS YOU THAT WHILE

5582
05:02:03,339 --> 05:02:04,340
THIS COMMUNITY IS IN FAVOR OF REDEVELOPMENT

5583
05:02:04,340 --> 05:02:06,340
THAT IS SMART

5584
05:02:07,343 --> 05:02:08,344
AND ENHANCES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND MELDS

5585
05:02:08,344 --> 05:02:10,346
WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THE

5586
05:02:10,346 --> 05:02:13,346
FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO

5587
05:02:13,349 --> 05:02:15,351
COME TO LIVE IN THESE HOUSES ARE

5588
05:02:15,351 --> 05:02:16,352
ALSO GOING TO BECOME PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS,

5589
05:02:16,352 --> 05:02:18,752
I CAN GIVE YOU

5590
05:02:19,355 --> 05:02:22,355
MANY EXAMPLES FROM THE MANY,

5591
05:02:22,358 --> 05:02:24,360
MANY CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED AT

5592
05:02:24,360 --> 05:02:25,361
COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER OF

5593
05:02:25,361 --> 05:02:27,761
2022 WITH THE DEVELOPER AND

5594
05:02:28,364 --> 05:02:30,364
ARE ASSOCIATING MEETINGS,

5595
05:02:31,367 --> 05:02:33,767
AN INFORMAL SURVEY THAT

5596
05:02:34,336 --> 05:02:36,338
COLLECTED THE SENTIMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

5597
05:02:36,338 --> 05:02:39,341
WHAT I WANT TO PRESENT NOW IS THE

5598
05:02:39,341 --> 05:02:42,941
EVIDENCE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS

5599
05:02:49,385 --> 05:02:51,785
HEARING AND REPRESENTATION OF

5600
05:02:52,388 --> 05:02:54,390
ALL OF THOSE EMAILS. I CLASSIFIED

5601
05:02:54,390 --> 05:02:55,391
THEM AS THOSE IN FAVOR , THOSE OPPOSED AND

5602
05:02:55,391 --> 05:02:57,391
THOSE

5603
05:02:58,394 --> 05:03:01,397
IN NEUTRAL OPINION. WHAT YOU SEE

5604
05:03:01,397 --> 05:03:04,397
HERE IS THOSE SENTIMENTS MAPPED

5605
05:03:04,400 --> 05:03:07,369
ONTO THE RESIDENTS OF THE

5606
05:03:07,369 --> 05:03:09,369
SURVEY PARTICIPANTS.

5607
05:03:10,372 --> 05:03:12,372
86%

5608
05:03:13,375 --> 05:03:16,378
TO 80% OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO

5609
05:03:16,378 --> 05:03:19,378
THIS PLAN AS PRESENTED. WITH

5610
05:03:19,381 --> 05:03:21,781
CLOSE TO 100% IN OPPOSITION

5611
05:03:22,384 --> 05:03:25,387
IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS SURROUNDING THIS

5612
05:03:25,387 --> 05:03:28,357
DEVELOPMENT AND ARE THE PEOPLE WHO

5613
05:03:28,357 --> 05:03:31,360
WILL BE MOST IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT

5614
05:03:31,360 --> 05:03:32,361
, AND THE

5615
05:03:32,361 --> 05:03:34,363
PRIMARY CONCERN OF ALMOST ALL OF THESE LETTERS

5616
05:03:34,363 --> 05:03:37,366
IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE INTRODUCED INTO

5617
05:03:37,366 --> 05:03:40,335
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THOSE 500 CARS. THOSE

5618
05:03:40,335 --> 05:03:42,335
500 CARS

5619
05:03:42,337 --> 05:03:43,338
AGAIN, MAPPING BACK TO THIS WOODLAND ENTRANCE. THIS

5620
05:03:43,338 --> 05:03:45,338
ENTRANCE IS UNSAFE

5621
05:03:46,341 --> 05:03:47,342
AND IMPRACTICAL AND

5622
05:03:47,342 --> 05:03:49,344
DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE CURRENT

5623
05:03:49,344 --> 05:03:50,345
CONDITIONS OF THE SECTOR PLAN.

5624
05:03:50,345 --> 05:03:52,347
WE AND OTHERS WHO WILL SPEAK AFTER ME

5625
05:03:52,347 --> 05:03:54,349
WILL SHOW YOU THAT IT

5626
05:03:54,349 --> 05:03:55,350
IS IMPERMISSIBLE AGAINST THE ZONING CODE

5627
05:03:55,350 --> 05:03:57,350
, AS WELL.

5628
05:03:58,353 --> 05:04:00,355
I HOPE THE BOARD WILL DENY THIS

5629
05:04:00,355 --> 05:04:01,356
POST ACCESS ON WOODLAND DRIVE. IF I

5630
05:04:01,356 --> 05:04:03,756
HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES

5631
05:04:04,359 --> 05:04:06,359
I WILL SAY,

5632
05:04:07,362 --> 05:04:10,365
THANK YOU AMY. I LOVED ALL

5633
05:04:10,365 --> 05:04:12,765
THOSE POINTS. >> THAT WAS

5634
05:04:13,335 --> 05:04:15,335
WORTH IT. 10 SECONDS.

5635
05:04:19,341 --> 05:04:21,341
NEXT PLEASE. >>

5636
05:04:28,350 --> 05:04:30,350
THANK YOU FOR

5637
05:04:31,353 --> 05:04:33,353
THE TIME FROM

5638
05:04:33,355 --> 05:04:34,356
THE CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS AND STAFF.

5639
05:04:34,356 --> 05:04:36,356
PLEASE

5640
05:04:37,359 --> 05:04:39,759
HELP US. I AGREE

5641
05:04:40,362 --> 05:04:43,365
AND ENDORSE THE FOREST GROVE CIVIC

5642
05:04:43,365 --> 05:04:45,765
ASSOCIATIONS FAIR REVIEWS ON

5643
05:04:46,368 --> 05:04:48,368
THE DEVELOPMENT THAT

5644
05:04:49,371 --> 05:04:52,371
WE WILL ALL SPEAK ABOUT.

5645
05:04:52,374 --> 05:04:55,377
WE HAVE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A

5646
05:04:55,377 --> 05:04:56,378
LONG TIME. WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS

5647
05:04:56,378 --> 05:04:58,380
DEVELOPMENT IN SEPTEMBER 2022 FOR THE

5648
05:04:58,380 --> 05:05:00,380
FIRST TIME

5649
05:05:00,382 --> 05:05:03,385
MY INITIAL REACTION WAS POSITIVE. BUT

5650
05:05:03,385 --> 05:05:05,387
, WHEN I HEARD WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED I

5651
05:05:05,387 --> 05:05:07,387
WAS SHOCKED. ESSENTIALLY,

5652
05:05:07,389 --> 05:05:08,390
WOODLAND DRIVE WAS BEING APPROPRIATED

5653
05:05:08,390 --> 05:05:10,390
BY

5654
05:05:11,393 --> 05:05:12,394
THE BUILDER . IN EFFECT, A

5655
05:05:12,394 --> 05:05:14,396
PUBLIC RESIDENTIAL ROAD WAS BEING

5656
05:05:14,396 --> 05:05:16,396
CONVERTED

5657
05:05:17,399 --> 05:05:19,368
INTO A DRIVEWAY FOR

5658
05:05:19,368 --> 05:05:20,369
PROFITABLE ENTITY AND BEING PUSHED

5659
05:05:20,369 --> 05:05:22,369
DOWN

5660
05:05:23,372 --> 05:05:24,373
OUR THROATS. I

5661
05:05:24,373 --> 05:05:25,374
TALKED TO THE PLANNING STAFF AND BOARD AND

5662
05:05:25,374 --> 05:05:26,375
I HOPE YOU SEE THROUGH THIS TRANSPARENT

5663
05:05:26,375 --> 05:05:28,375
ATTEMPT

5664
05:05:29,378 --> 05:05:31,378
BY A PROFIT

5665
05:05:32,381 --> 05:05:34,381
MAXIMIZING ENTITY.

5666
05:05:35,384 --> 05:05:36,385
I

5667
05:05:36,385 --> 05:05:37,386
DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD FLY BUT WE KEPT HEARING

5668
05:05:37,386 --> 05:05:40,389
FROM PEOPLE , FROM FRUSTRATED STAFF THAT

5669
05:05:40,389 --> 05:05:41,390
THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT MAKING CHANGES AND

5670
05:05:41,390 --> 05:05:42,391
CLAIMING

5671
05:05:42,391 --> 05:05:44,393
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY.

5672
05:05:44,393 --> 05:05:46,393
NOT TRUE , AS

5673
05:05:47,396 --> 05:05:50,396
YOU SAW. THE DEVELOPER SEEMS

5674
05:05:50,399 --> 05:05:53,368
THAT THERE IS AN AGENDA

5675
05:05:53,368 --> 05:05:54,369
THAT

5676
05:05:54,369 --> 05:05:55,370
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY AND THEY ARE DOING

5677
05:05:55,370 --> 05:05:56,371
US A FAVOR AND THE COMMUNITY LOVES

5678
05:05:56,371 --> 05:05:57,372
US.

5679
05:05:57,372 --> 05:05:59,374
THERE ARE SO MANY FALSEHOODS AND UNDERHANDED TACTICS

5680
05:05:59,374 --> 05:06:02,377
GOING AROUND AFTER PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR

5681
05:06:02,377 --> 05:06:04,377
THE DEVELOPMENT.

5682
05:06:06,381 --> 05:06:08,383
AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPER IS CONCERNED,

5683
05:06:08,383 --> 05:06:09,384
THE COMMUNITY AND

5684
05:06:09,384 --> 05:06:11,386
NEIGHBORHOODS IS NOT THERE CUSTOMER.

5685
05:06:11,386 --> 05:06:13,386
I

5686
05:06:14,389 --> 05:06:16,389
UNDERSTAND THAT.

5687
05:06:16,391 --> 05:06:17,392
IS LIKE SELLING A USED CAR AND WALKING AWAY.

5688
05:06:17,392 --> 05:06:19,392
HOWEVER,

5689
05:06:20,395 --> 05:06:21,396
IN ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION ONE

5690
05:06:21,396 --> 05:06:23,398
OTHER CONSTANT WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE

5691
05:06:23,398 --> 05:06:25,398
BEEN FORGOTTEN, WHICH

5692
05:06:26,368 --> 05:06:28,368
IS THE

5693
05:06:29,371 --> 05:06:31,371
FUTURE

5694
05:06:35,377 --> 05:06:37,777
OF THE RESIDENTS HERE.

5695
05:06:38,380 --> 05:06:40,382
PUTTING 500 CARS ON THIS ROAD WILL IMPACT

5696
05:06:40,382 --> 05:06:41,383
OTHER PEOPLE AND WILL MAKE IT MORE

5697
05:06:41,383 --> 05:06:43,383
DANGEROUS. PLEASE

5698
05:06:44,419 --> 05:06:46,419
DON'T ALLOW IT.

5699
05:06:47,422 --> 05:06:49,422
WE

5700
05:06:49,424 --> 05:06:50,425
CAN HAVE TWO FUTURES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FULL

5701
05:06:50,425 --> 05:06:52,425
OF CARS

5702
05:06:52,427 --> 05:06:53,428
AND LESS WALKABLE SIDEWALKS, OR WE

5703
05:06:53,428 --> 05:06:55,428
CAN

5704
05:06:56,431 --> 05:06:57,432
HAVE SOME CREATIVITY AND

5705
05:06:57,432 --> 05:07:00,432
LONG-TERM THINKING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE

5706
05:07:02,404 --> 05:07:03,405
THINK IT WILL BE

5707
05:07:03,405 --> 05:07:05,407
BETTER FOR EVERYONE. PLEASE HELP US

5708
05:07:05,407 --> 05:07:07,409
FIND A BETTER SOLUTION THAT

5709
05:07:07,409 --> 05:07:10,412
CAN BE A ROLE MODEL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

5710
05:07:10,412 --> 05:07:12,414
THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE'S NEED

5711
05:07:12,414 --> 05:07:14,416
, BUT NOT FOR EVERYONE'S GREED. THANK

5712
05:07:14,416 --> 05:07:17,416
YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

5713
05:07:20,422 --> 05:07:22,422
ROBERT? >>

5714
05:07:26,428 --> 05:07:28,428
HELLO. I

5715
05:07:29,431 --> 05:07:30,432
LIVE ON SHERWOOD ROAD

5716
05:07:30,432 --> 05:07:32,401
WITH MY PARENTS AND TWO YOUNGER BROTHERS.

5717
05:07:32,401 --> 05:07:33,402
I AM A SEVENTH GRADER AND I BIKE

5718
05:07:33,402 --> 05:07:35,404
TO SCHOOL AND BACK EVERY DAY. THERE ARE

5719
05:07:35,404 --> 05:07:37,404
NO BUSES

5720
05:07:40,409 --> 05:07:45,209
BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO SCHOOL.

5721
05:07:46,415 --> 05:07:47,416
SOME OF MY FRIENDS ALSO WALKED TO

5722
05:07:47,416 --> 05:07:48,417
SCHOOL. I HAVE BEEN

5723
05:07:48,417 --> 05:07:49,418
BIKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER FIVE

5724
05:07:49,418 --> 05:07:50,419
YEARS AND EVEN IN THAT TIME I HAVE NOTICED

5725
05:07:50,419 --> 05:07:51,420
A LOT MORE

5726
05:07:51,420 --> 05:07:53,422
CARS GOING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT

5727
05:07:53,422 --> 05:07:54,423
MAKES BIKING

5728
05:07:54,423 --> 05:07:56,425
MORE DIFFICULT. NEXT YEAR, ONE OF MY

5729
05:07:56,425 --> 05:07:58,425
YOUNGER BROTHERS

5730
05:07:58,427 --> 05:07:59,428
WILL BE ACCOMPANYING ME ON MY BIKE

5731
05:07:59,428 --> 05:08:01,430
RIDE TO SCHOOL. WITH TWO PEOPLE BIKING TOGETHER

5732
05:08:01,430 --> 05:08:02,431
IT WILL BE HARDER TO STAY SAFE WITH

5733
05:08:02,431 --> 05:08:04,431
MORE CARS.

5734
05:08:05,434 --> 05:08:07,402
I HAVE ALSO HAD MANY EXPERIENCES

5735
05:08:07,402 --> 05:08:08,403
WITH DRIVERS NOT RESPECTING PEDESTRIANS

5736
05:08:08,403 --> 05:08:10,403
OR

5737
05:08:10,405 --> 05:08:11,406
OTHER BIKERS , WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING

5738
05:08:11,406 --> 05:08:13,406
I

5739
05:08:14,409 --> 05:08:16,411
WANT THERE TO BE MORE OF. IT

5740
05:08:16,411 --> 05:08:18,413
CAN MAKE MY DAILY BIKE RIDE TO SCHOOL

5741
05:08:18,413 --> 05:08:20,415
MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT NEEDS

5742
05:08:20,415 --> 05:08:22,415
TO BE.

5743
05:08:23,418 --> 05:08:26,418
I LIVE AT THE END

5744
05:08:26,421 --> 05:08:27,422
OF

5745
05:08:27,422 --> 05:08:29,424
WHERE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PLANNED AND THERE

5746
05:08:29,424 --> 05:08:30,425
ARE ALREADY A LOT OF CARS ON WOODLAND.

5747
05:08:30,425 --> 05:08:32,427
ADDING SO MANY MORE WITH THE GARAGE ENTRANCE

5748
05:08:32,427 --> 05:08:35,430
RIGHT THERE WOULD BE TOO DANGEROUS FOR

5749
05:08:35,430 --> 05:08:36,431
WALKERS AND BIKERS , LIKE. I KNOW MANY OTHER MIDDLE

5750
05:08:36,431 --> 05:08:38,433
AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLERS WHO WALK

5751
05:08:38,433 --> 05:08:39,401
ALONG WOODLAND AND

5752
05:08:39,401 --> 05:08:41,403
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR

5753
05:08:41,403 --> 05:08:44,403
SAFETY ON WHAT SHOULD BE

5754
05:08:47,442 --> 05:08:48,443
AN EASY WALK TO THE SCHOOL OR BUS STOP. MY

5755
05:08:48,443 --> 05:08:49,444
YOUNGEST BROTHER IS CURRENTLY IN KINDERGARTEN AND

5756
05:08:49,444 --> 05:08:50,445
HE WALKS FROM THE BUS STOP ALL BY

5757
05:08:50,445 --> 05:08:51,446
HIMSELF AND WE DON'T WANT

5758
05:08:51,446 --> 05:08:52,447
THERE TO BE ANY MORE TRAFFIC MAKING THAT

5759
05:08:52,447 --> 05:08:56,451
WALK MORE DANGEROUS. I AM HERE TODAY TO

5760
05:08:56,451 --> 05:08:58,451
URGE YOU

5761
05:08:59,454 --> 05:09:00,455
NOT TO ALLOW SO MANY

5762
05:09:00,455 --> 05:09:01,456
HUNDREDS OF PARKING SPACES AT THIS

5763
05:09:01,456 --> 05:09:02,457
NEW DEVELOPMENT SO CLOSE TO OUR HOMES WHERE

5764
05:09:02,457 --> 05:09:03,458
IT COULD CAUSE

5765
05:09:03,458 --> 05:09:05,460
SO MUCH DANGER FOR WALKERS AND BIKERS, LIKE.

5766
05:09:05,460 --> 05:09:08,463
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

5767
05:09:08,463 --> 05:09:10,463
TESTIMONY. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >>

5768
05:09:11,466 --> 05:09:13,466
NICE JOB.

5769
05:09:14,436 --> 05:09:16,438
NEXT? >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN

5770
05:09:16,438 --> 05:09:19,438
AND COMMISSIONERS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO

5771
05:09:22,444 --> 05:09:23,445
COMMISSIONER PINERO FOR YOUR RECENT

5772
05:09:23,445 --> 05:09:25,445
APPOINTMENT.

5773
05:09:29,451 --> 05:09:30,452
I AM THE FOUNDER OF FINDING FOREST GLEN, FORMER VICE CHAIR

5774
05:09:30,452 --> 05:09:34,520
OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PLANNING BOARD

5775
05:09:35,457 --> 05:09:36,458
.

5776
05:09:36,458 --> 05:09:38,460
MOST IMPORTANT, I AM THE FATHER OF

5777
05:09:38,460 --> 05:09:40,462
THREE CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY

5778
05:09:40,462 --> 05:09:43,465
FOR 10 YEARS AND HAVE TWO SMALL BUSINESSES HERE.

5779
05:09:43,465 --> 05:09:44,466
I AM HERE TO PROVIDE CONTEXT ON WHERE WE

5780
05:09:44,466 --> 05:09:45,467
ARE AT. I KNOW

5781
05:09:45,467 --> 05:09:47,436
YOU HAVE HEARD MANY OF THE COMMUNITY

5782
05:09:47,436 --> 05:09:49,438
MEMBERS SAY THERE IS NOT A LOT OF SUPPORT

5783
05:09:49,438 --> 05:09:53,638
FOR THIS PROJECT. I WILL TELL YOU

5784
05:09:56,445 --> 05:09:57,446
, GOING BACK TO 2015,

5785
05:09:57,446 --> 05:09:58,447
THAT IS WHEN THE CONVERSATION REALLY STARTED. THERE

5786
05:09:58,447 --> 05:09:59,448
WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SEE

5787
05:09:59,448 --> 05:10:01,450
CHANGE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THAT STARTED

5788
05:10:01,450 --> 05:10:05,500
WITH GETTING THE SECOND METRO ENTRANCE

5789
05:10:05,454 --> 05:10:06,455
PUT INTO THE CIP. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REMEMBER

5790
05:10:06,455 --> 05:10:07,456
THIS CONVERSATION, IT WASN'T EASY

5791
05:10:07,456 --> 05:10:08,457
BECAUSE IT WAS A CONVERSATION OF PICKING

5792
05:10:08,457 --> 05:10:10,457
TRANSIT OVER

5793
05:10:11,460 --> 05:10:13,462
A ROAD. THE MONTROSE

5794
05:10:13,462 --> 05:10:14,463
PARKWAY EAST. THE COUNTY COUNSEL APPROVED

5795
05:10:14,463 --> 05:10:16,463
THE SECOND

5796
05:10:17,466 --> 05:10:19,434
METRO ENTRANCE THE IDEA WAS THAT THERE WAS

5797
05:10:19,434 --> 05:10:20,435
GOING TO BE HOUSING ON THIS SITE.

5798
05:10:20,435 --> 05:10:22,435
IN

5799
05:10:22,437 --> 05:10:23,438
FT. LEE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU

5800
05:10:23,438 --> 05:10:25,438
DO THE MATH

5801
05:10:26,441 --> 05:10:29,444
IT DOESN'T WORK OUT. FOR THE LONGEST TIME,

5802
05:10:29,444 --> 05:10:31,444
DYLAN FIRST

5803
05:10:32,447 --> 05:10:34,447
DEVELOPERS WITH THEY

5804
05:10:34,449 --> 05:10:35,450
CAN DO ANYTHING ON THIS SITE. THEY WANTED

5805
05:10:35,450 --> 05:10:38,453
TO SEE MORE HOUSING AND AMENITIES NEAR THE METRO. THE MATH

5806
05:10:38,453 --> 05:10:40,489
DOESN'T WORK. BACK IN

5807
05:10:40,489 --> 05:10:41,490
2017 WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STARTED

5808
05:10:41,490 --> 05:10:43,490
DOING

5809
05:10:44,493 --> 05:10:46,495
ITS OUTREACH ON THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE

5810
05:10:46,495 --> 05:10:47,496
DID COME OUT AND SAY, WE WANT THE

5811
05:10:47,496 --> 05:10:50,496
ZONING. THAT IS WHY THIS

5812
05:10:50,499 --> 05:10:53,468
SITE GOT UP TO 120 FEET WITH

5813
05:10:53,468 --> 05:10:55,470
2.5 SAR. THAT WAS ALSO THE DENSITY

5814
05:10:55,470 --> 05:10:56,471
NEEDED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.

5815
05:10:56,471 --> 05:10:59,471
EVEN THEN IT WAS VERY

5816
05:10:59,474 --> 05:11:02,477
DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT WOULD

5817
05:11:02,477 --> 05:11:03,478
HAPPEN WITH THE METRO ENTRANCE

5818
05:11:03,478 --> 05:11:05,480
OR IF IT COULD STILL WORK OUT WITH

5819
05:11:05,480 --> 05:11:07,482
ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. WHAT

5820
05:11:07,482 --> 05:11:08,483
I THINK WHAT PEOPLE FORGET IS THE MASTER

5821
05:11:08,483 --> 05:11:11,483
SICK TO PLAN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS

5822
05:11:11,486 --> 05:11:14,489
DESIGNED TO BE WRITTEN AWAITS PROVIDING GUIDELINES SO

5823
05:11:14,489 --> 05:11:15,490
PEOPLE CAN , WITHIN A CERTAIN FRAMEWORK

5824
05:11:15,490 --> 05:11:17,490
PROVIDE THAT

5825
05:11:17,492 --> 05:11:18,493
KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE AT THIS

5826
05:11:18,493 --> 05:11:19,494
POINT IN

5827
05:11:19,494 --> 05:11:20,495
SKETCH PLAN WITH APPROVAL FROM THE

5828
05:11:20,495 --> 05:11:23,495
PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT IS BASICALLY

5829
05:11:23,498 --> 05:11:25,500
LAYING OUT THE CONDITIONS THAT SAY,

5830
05:11:25,500 --> 05:11:27,469
WE KNOW WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT EVERYTHING, BUT

5831
05:11:27,469 --> 05:11:29,469
BASED ON

5832
05:11:29,471 --> 05:11:30,472
THE ZONING AND WHAT IS PROVIDED WE

5833
05:11:30,472 --> 05:11:33,472
ARE APPROVING WITH THESE CONDITIONS.

5834
05:11:33,475 --> 05:11:34,476
I JUST WANTED

5835
05:11:34,476 --> 05:11:38,676
TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT. SOME HISTORY

5836
05:11:39,481 --> 05:11:40,482
NOW, MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE METRO

5837
05:11:40,482 --> 05:11:42,484
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INSIDE THE BELTWAY. BECAUSE

5838
05:11:42,484 --> 05:11:43,485
AT THAT TIME PEOPLE

5839
05:11:43,485 --> 05:11:45,487
DIDN'T WANT TO ACTUALLY, HAVE HOUSING

5840
05:11:45,487 --> 05:11:47,487
AROUND IT AND

5841
05:11:47,489 --> 05:11:51,493
IT GOT PUSHED OUTSIDE OF THE BELTWAY

5842
05:11:51,493 --> 05:11:53,495
BITE CERTAIN CIVIC LEADER

5843
05:11:53,495 --> 05:11:56,498
THAT BROUGHT UP THE COST TO $300 MILLION.

5844
05:11:56,498 --> 05:11:57,499
THEY ALSO STATED CRIME, TRAFFIC AND OTHER

5845
05:11:57,499 --> 05:11:59,467
ISSUES

5846
05:11:59,467 --> 05:12:01,469
THAT WERE PLAYING OUT AGAIN , TODAY.

5847
05:12:01,469 --> 05:12:03,471
I WANT TO REMIND THIS BOARD THAT WE DIDN'T JUST

5848
05:12:03,471 --> 05:12:05,473
GET HERE BASED ON THIS

5849
05:12:05,473 --> 05:12:06,474
ONE APPLICATION. IT HAS BEEN MANY, MANY

5850
05:12:06,474 --> 05:12:07,475
YEARS

5851
05:12:07,475 --> 05:12:09,477
OF ACTIVISM AND COORDINATION WITH

5852
05:12:09,477 --> 05:12:10,478
THE COUNTY COUNSEL

5853
05:12:10,478 --> 05:12:14,780
AND MOST IMPORTANT, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES

5854
05:12:15,483 --> 05:12:18,486
WHICH HASN'T BEEN THE BEST IN RECENT YEARS.

5855
05:12:18,486 --> 05:12:20,488
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

5856
05:12:20,488 --> 05:12:24,880
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. JOHN

5857
05:12:24,492 --> 05:12:26,494
HATHAWAY? >> YES. THANK YOU

5858
05:12:26,494 --> 05:12:30,498
ALL VERY MUCH FOR HEARING OUR VOICES. MY

5859
05:12:30,498 --> 05:12:32,500
NAME IS JOHN HATHAWAY. I

5860
05:12:32,500 --> 05:12:33,468
LIVE AT 1803 MYRTLE ROAD , WHICH IS ABOUT

5861
05:12:33,468 --> 05:12:34,469
FIVE

5862
05:12:34,469 --> 05:12:36,438
HOUSES DOWN FROM WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT

5863
05:12:36,438 --> 05:12:38,438
IS PLANNED.

5864
05:12:39,474 --> 05:12:42,474
I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR

5865
05:12:42,477 --> 05:12:43,478
31 YEARS. MY

5866
05:12:43,478 --> 05:12:45,480
WIFE, MARY MARGARET AND I HAVE RAISED

5867
05:12:45,480 --> 05:12:47,480
OUR CHILDREN THERE.

5868
05:12:47,482 --> 05:12:48,483
THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT COMMUNITY, OF WHICH

5869
05:12:48,483 --> 05:12:49,484
I

5870
05:12:49,484 --> 05:12:50,485
AM VERY PROUD OF THE SUPPORT THAT

5871
05:12:50,485 --> 05:12:51,486
IS HERE, TODAY. PEOPLE TAKING THEIR TIME TO

5872
05:12:51,486 --> 05:12:53,486
COME AND TALK

5873
05:12:54,489 --> 05:12:56,491
TO YOU. THIS DEVELOPMENT

5874
05:12:56,491 --> 05:13:00,495
WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.

5875
05:13:00,495 --> 05:13:03,495
I WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING

5876
05:13:03,498 --> 05:13:05,498
VERY BRIEFLY

5877
05:13:09,471 --> 05:13:10,472
, AND IF YOU

5878
05:13:10,472 --> 05:13:12,474
LOOK AT THE EMAILS AND LETTERS THAT

5879
05:13:12,474 --> 05:13:15,477
HAVE BEEN SENT THERE IS A BIG CONCERN IN

5880
05:13:15,477 --> 05:13:17,877
OUR COMMUNITY , PARTICULARLY THE

5881
05:13:18,480 --> 05:13:19,481
IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS

5882
05:13:19,481 --> 05:13:21,483
NOT NOTIFIED OF THESE DELIBERATIONS ON

5883
05:13:21,483 --> 05:13:24,486
THE SECTOR PLAN. THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE

5884
05:13:24,486 --> 05:13:26,488
FOR TODAY. I WANT TO TALK

5885
05:13:26,488 --> 05:13:30,688
ABOUT A FEW THINGS. FIRST, THE INTERSECTION

5886
05:13:31,493 --> 05:13:32,494
AT FOREST GLEN AND GEORGIA, I WON'T

5887
05:13:32,494 --> 05:13:33,495
REITERATE HOW DANGEROUS AND HEAVILY

5888
05:13:33,495 --> 05:13:35,495
CONGESTED IT

5889
05:13:35,497 --> 05:13:36,498
IS. BUT , WE HAVE TO KEEP IN CONTEXT

5890
05:13:36,498 --> 05:13:38,498
THAT REGARDLESS

5891
05:13:38,500 --> 05:13:39,467
OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE, IF YOU ARE

5892
05:13:39,467 --> 05:13:41,467
GOING TO PUT

5893
05:13:42,470 --> 05:13:44,470
IN 540 PARKING SPACES ,

5894
05:13:45,473 --> 05:13:48,476
415 UNITS , THAT IS JUST ADDING FUEL

5895
05:13:48,476 --> 05:13:50,478
TO THIS FIRE. THIS

5896
05:13:50,478 --> 05:13:54,482
IS DANGEROUS. IT IS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

5897
05:13:54,482 --> 05:13:57,485
SO, PLEASE KEEP THAT IN CONTEXT.

5898
05:13:57,485 --> 05:13:59,885
THE WOODLAND STREET ENTRANCE

5899
05:14:00,488 --> 05:14:02,488
IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC .

5900
05:14:03,491 --> 05:14:06,494
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT THE COUNTY

5901
05:14:06,494 --> 05:14:08,494
, OR SOMEONE , IN

5902
05:14:09,497 --> 05:14:12,500
ORDER TO TRY TO CALM TRAFFIC HAS OCCASIONALLY PUT BARRIERS

5903
05:14:12,500 --> 05:14:13,468
IN THE ROAD

5904
05:14:13,468 --> 05:14:15,470
AND AMBULANCES COME THROUGH THERE,

5905
05:14:15,470 --> 05:14:18,470
ETC., ETC. I WOULD ASK

5906
05:14:18,473 --> 05:14:20,475
IF YOU ALL WOULDN'T MIND

5907
05:14:20,475 --> 05:14:21,476
, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, PLEASE TAKE

5908
05:14:21,476 --> 05:14:23,478
A RIDE AND RIDE DOWN

5909
05:14:23,478 --> 05:14:24,479
MYRTLE ROAD , RIGHT DOWN SHERWOOD,

5910
05:14:24,479 --> 05:14:26,479
RIGHT DOWN WOODLAND

5911
05:14:27,482 --> 05:14:29,482
.

5912
05:14:29,484 --> 05:14:30,485
THE PICTURES ARE ALL GOOD, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY

5913
05:14:30,485 --> 05:14:32,485
REALLY CONVEY THE

5914
05:14:33,488 --> 05:14:35,888
TRUE SENSE OF IT.

5915
05:14:36,491 --> 05:14:38,491
WHAT

5916
05:14:38,526 --> 05:14:41,529
THIS IS GOING TO RESULT IN IS REALLY

5917
05:14:41,529 --> 05:14:42,530
, JUST A BIG PARKING LOT. IT WILL

5918
05:14:42,530 --> 05:14:44,530
BE GRIDLOCKED.

5919
05:14:45,533 --> 05:14:47,502
I JUST

5920
05:14:47,502 --> 05:14:48,503
DON'T SEE THAT IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING

5921
05:14:48,503 --> 05:14:50,503
THAT

5922
05:14:50,505 --> 05:14:54,105
THIS BOARD SHOULD IMPROVE. THE SCALE

5923
05:14:54,509 --> 05:14:57,512
OF THIS , AND IT IS MENTIONED

5924
05:14:57,512 --> 05:14:59,912
IN THE STAFF REPORT

5925
05:15:00,515 --> 05:15:02,517
, TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS LONG. THIS IS NOT

5926
05:15:02,517 --> 05:15:03,518
DOWNTOWN WHEATON OR SILVER SPRINGS

5927
05:15:03,518 --> 05:15:05,518
WERE SUCH

5928
05:15:06,521 --> 05:15:09,524
A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE. THE SECTOR

5929
05:15:09,524 --> 05:15:11,524
PLAN TALKS

5930
05:15:12,527 --> 05:15:14,927
ABOUT THINGS ON THE

5931
05:15:15,530 --> 05:15:16,531
TOWNHOUSE SCALE.

5932
05:15:16,531 --> 05:15:18,533
WHY NOT TOWNHOUSE? I THINK THERE ARE

5933
05:15:18,533 --> 05:15:21,503
PLENTY OF DEVELOPERS WHO WOULD DO THAT. FINALLY, I WANT

5934
05:15:21,503 --> 05:15:24,506
TO READ FROM THE SECTOR PLAN

5935
05:15:24,506 --> 05:15:26,508
OF 2019, WHICH HAS THE GOAL TO IMPROVE

5936
05:15:26,508 --> 05:15:27,509
THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THE

5937
05:15:27,509 --> 05:15:29,509
FOREST GLEN MONTGOMERY

5938
05:15:29,511 --> 05:15:30,512
HILLS AREA. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL

5939
05:15:30,512 --> 05:15:32,512
NOT FULFILL

5940
05:15:33,515 --> 05:15:36,518
THAT GOAL. IN FACT, IT WILL DO THE OPPOSITE.

5941
05:15:36,518 --> 05:15:39,521
IT WILL DETERIORATE AND MAKE WORSE THE QUALITY

5942
05:15:39,521 --> 05:15:42,524
OF LIFE OF THOSE CITIZENS IN THIS

5943
05:15:42,524 --> 05:15:44,524
NEIGHBORHOOD, PARTICULARLY

5944
05:15:45,527 --> 05:15:46,528
THOSE WHO

5945
05:15:46,528 --> 05:15:47,529
LIVE RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

5946
05:15:47,529 --> 05:15:48,530
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL

5947
05:15:48,530 --> 05:15:50,532
FOR YOUR TESTIMONIES. PARTICULARLY,

5948
05:15:50,532 --> 05:15:51,533
OUR BIKE RIDER. EVEN THOUGH HE ROOTS

5949
05:15:51,533 --> 05:15:53,533
FOR

5950
05:15:54,502 --> 05:15:56,502
GREEN BAY.

5951
05:16:21,529 --> 05:16:23,529
>> THE NEXT GROUP

5952
05:16:24,532 --> 05:16:26,532
MAY COME UP.

5953
05:16:33,508 --> 05:16:35,508
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I

5954
05:16:36,511 --> 05:16:38,546
HAVE LIVED IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY NEARLY

5955
05:16:38,546 --> 05:16:39,547
ALL MY LIFE. MY MOTHER MOVED US HERE

5956
05:16:39,547 --> 05:16:41,547
SO I CAN

5957
05:16:41,549 --> 05:16:45,149
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FANTASTIC COUNTRY

5958
05:16:45,553 --> 05:16:48,553
LIFESTYLE. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

5959
05:16:48,556 --> 05:16:52,560
TO TRAVEL THE WORLD, BUT I THINK MONTGOMERY

5960
05:16:52,560 --> 05:16:55,563
COUNTY IS AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO

5961
05:16:55,563 --> 05:16:56,564
LIVE, AS WELL AS

5962
05:16:56,564 --> 05:16:58,566
WHERE I CHOSE TO START MY FAMILY. NOW THAT

5963
05:16:58,566 --> 05:16:59,567
HAVE A SON OF MY OWN, I WANT

5964
05:16:59,567 --> 05:17:00,535
HIM TO BE SAFE IN THE HOUSE AND PLACE WE

5965
05:17:00,535 --> 05:17:01,536
CHOSE FOR HIM. I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS

5966
05:17:01,536 --> 05:17:03,536
WOODLAND

5967
05:17:03,538 --> 05:17:04,539
FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. OUR

5968
05:17:04,539 --> 05:17:07,542
HOUSE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS WOODLAND FROM THE

5969
05:17:07,542 --> 05:17:10,542
PROPOSED LOADING DOCK FOR THE

5970
05:17:10,545 --> 05:17:11,546
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

5971
05:17:11,546 --> 05:17:12,547
OUR DRIVEWAY LET OUT ONTO WOODLAND ACROSS

5972
05:17:12,547 --> 05:17:13,548
FROM THIS PROPOSED LOADING DOCK. THIS

5973
05:17:13,548 --> 05:17:15,550
IS WHERE I LIVE

5974
05:17:15,550 --> 05:17:19,554
WITH MY WIFE , ABIGAIL AND MY 3-YEAR-OLD

5975
05:17:19,554 --> 05:17:22,557
SON, ROMAN. THIS IS WHERE MY WIFE

5976
05:17:22,557 --> 05:17:25,560
WAS TEACHING MY ROMAN TO WRITE

5977
05:17:25,560 --> 05:17:26,561
HIS BACK

5978
05:17:26,561 --> 05:17:28,563
BITE JUST THIS LAST SUNDAY. I APPRECIATE

5979
05:17:28,563 --> 05:17:30,563
THE OPPORTUNITY

5980
05:17:30,565 --> 05:17:31,566
TO SPEAK IN PERSON. I AGREE WITH THE ASSOCIATION

5981
05:17:31,566 --> 05:17:32,567
THAT

5982
05:17:32,567 --> 05:17:34,536
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT

5983
05:17:34,536 --> 05:17:36,538
BE APPROVED ON THE BASIS

5984
05:17:36,538 --> 05:17:37,539
THAT IT DOES NOT ADHERE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR

5985
05:17:37,539 --> 05:17:38,540
THE GOALS OF THE

5986
05:17:38,540 --> 05:17:39,541
SECTOR PLAN. IF IT IS APPROVED, I

5987
05:17:39,541 --> 05:17:41,543
HOPE THE CONDITIONS PUT FORTH THE REVIEW

5988
05:17:41,543 --> 05:17:43,544
COMMITTEE ARE STRICTLY ADHERED TO.

5989
05:17:43,544 --> 05:17:45,544
AS COUNTY ,

5990
05:17:46,547 --> 05:17:48,549
AS THE SECTOR AND AS A COMMUNITY WE CAN AFFORD

5991
05:17:48,549 --> 05:17:49,550
TO WAIT FOR A BETTER OPTION THAN THIS

5992
05:17:49,550 --> 05:17:51,550
POST PLAN.

5993
05:17:51,552 --> 05:17:54,556
OR, AT LEAST WAIT FOR THE PLANNED

5994
05:17:54,556 --> 05:17:57,559
SAFETY DEVELOPMENTS TO BE FURTHER ALONG

5995
05:17:57,559 --> 05:17:59,561
SO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CAN WORK

5996
05:17:59,561 --> 05:18:01,562
FOR THE AREA OF THE SECTOR PLAN INTENDED.

5997
05:18:01,562 --> 05:18:02,563
THE DEVELOPMENT

5998
05:18:02,563 --> 05:18:04,565
, AS PROPOSED WOULD PUT MANY PEOPLE

5999
05:18:04,565 --> 05:18:06,534
IN DANGER AND IT HAS

6000
05:18:06,534 --> 05:18:09,534
BEEN REITERATED, BOTH EXISTING AND

6001
05:18:09,537 --> 05:18:12,540
FUTURE RESIDENTS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLANS

6002
05:18:12,540 --> 05:18:13,541
TO ADD HUNDREDS OF CARS TO A SECONDARY

6003
05:18:13,541 --> 05:18:16,541
RESIDENTIAL ROADWAY THAT IS ALREADY

6004
05:18:16,544 --> 05:18:18,546
FUNCTIONING POORLY FOR BOTH VEHICULAR

6005
05:18:18,546 --> 05:18:19,547
AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. I OPPOSED

6006
05:18:19,547 --> 05:18:21,547
ANY VEHICULAR

6007
05:18:21,549 --> 05:18:22,550
EXIT ONTO WOODLAND IS A TERRIBLE IDEA,

6008
05:18:22,550 --> 05:18:24,550
AGAINST CODE

6009
05:18:24,552 --> 05:18:25,553
, AND IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMED TO BE

6010
05:18:25,553 --> 05:18:27,553
CONTRARY TO

6011
05:18:28,556 --> 05:18:29,557
WHAT WAS EVEN DESIRED

6012
05:18:29,557 --> 05:18:31,559
BY THOSE WHO DEVELOP THE SECTOR PLAN, ITSELF. THE

6013
05:18:31,559 --> 05:18:33,959
REVIEW COMMITTEE REPORT STATES

6014
05:18:34,562 --> 05:18:35,563
THAT THE AREA NEEDS MAJOR

6015
05:18:35,563 --> 05:18:37,598
ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS , WHICH WE HAVE TALKED

6016
05:18:37,598 --> 05:18:40,568
ABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF GEORGIA AVENUE

6017
05:18:40,568 --> 05:18:43,571
AND FOREST GLEN ROAD TO REDUCE CRASHES

6018
05:18:43,571 --> 05:18:45,571
AND IMPROVE SAFETY.

6019
05:18:45,573 --> 05:18:46,574
THESE CHANGES ARE PART OF THE SECTOR PLAN AND

6020
05:18:46,574 --> 05:18:48,974
ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

6021
05:18:49,577 --> 05:18:50,578
THE PLANNED

6022
05:18:50,578 --> 05:18:52,580
METRO TUNNEL IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW FOR THIS

6023
05:18:52,580 --> 05:18:54,582
INTERSECTION TO BE FUNCTIONAL

6024
05:18:54,582 --> 05:18:55,583
AND SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.

6025
05:18:55,583 --> 05:18:57,583
HOW CAN

6026
05:18:58,586 --> 05:18:59,587
THE DEVELOPER PROPOSED TO ADD

6027
05:18:59,587 --> 05:19:01,589
415 UNITS WORTH OF PEOPLE WITH 550

6028
05:19:01,589 --> 05:19:02,590
MORE CARS TO

6029
05:19:02,590 --> 05:19:04,592
THIS INTERSECTION WHEN IT IS ALREADY KNOWN

6030
05:19:04,592 --> 05:19:06,592
THERE IS A

6031
05:19:06,594 --> 05:19:07,595
DANGEROUS SITUATION? HOW CAN WE, AS

6032
05:19:07,595 --> 05:19:09,595
A CITIZENRY

6033
05:19:09,597 --> 05:19:12,600
ALLOW THIS BEFORE THAT DANGEROUS SITUATION

6034
05:19:12,600 --> 05:19:14,569
IS FIXED? AS A PROUD PART OF THIS

6035
05:19:14,569 --> 05:19:16,571
CITIZENRY, I HAVE ENJOYED READING

6036
05:19:16,571 --> 05:19:18,571
THROUGH THE

6037
05:19:19,574 --> 05:19:21,574
DOCUMENTED

6038
05:19:22,577 --> 05:19:25,580
INFORMATION AND I'D LIKE TO SEEK OUT OPINIONS THAT MIGHT

6039
05:19:25,580 --> 05:19:26,581
BE DIFFERENT THAN MY

6040
05:19:26,581 --> 05:19:27,582
OWN TO INFORM AND BETTER MYSELF, JUST

6041
05:19:27,582 --> 05:19:28,583
LIKE YOU WANT TO DO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. WHAT

6042
05:19:28,583 --> 05:19:30,583
I SEE

6043
05:19:30,585 --> 05:19:31,586
IN GENERAL IS A VOCAL COMMUNITY THAT

6044
05:19:31,586 --> 05:19:33,586
IS PROGRESSIVE, WELCOMING

6045
05:19:34,589 --> 05:19:35,590
AND A VERY HAPPY WITH THE

6046
05:19:35,590 --> 05:19:37,592
DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY AND THE SECTOR

6047
05:19:37,592 --> 05:19:38,593
PLAN. BUT, WITH THE SAME

6048
05:19:38,593 --> 05:19:40,595
CONSISTENT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

6049
05:19:40,595 --> 05:19:43,598
IT HAS TOO MUCH PARKING AND

6050
05:19:43,598 --> 05:19:45,600
WILL CREATE SAFETY ISSUES AND WILL

6051
05:19:45,600 --> 05:19:46,567
NOT LIVE UP TO THE GOALS IN THE SECTOR PLAN.

6052
05:19:46,567 --> 05:19:48,567
>> [ APPLAUSE ]

6053
05:19:49,570 --> 05:19:51,570
>>

6054
05:19:55,576 --> 05:19:57,576
GOOD AFTERNOON.

6055
05:20:00,581 --> 05:20:01,582
MY NAME IS ABIGAIL STEIN AND I'M A

6056
05:20:01,582 --> 05:20:02,583
HOMEOWNER DIRECTLY

6057
05:20:02,583 --> 05:20:03,584
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE

6058
05:20:03,584 --> 05:20:04,585
WITH MY DRIVEWAY ON THE WOODLAND SIDE

6059
05:20:04,585 --> 05:20:05,586
OF OUR

6060
05:20:05,586 --> 05:20:07,588
CORNER LOT . WE PURCHASED OUR HOME

6061
05:20:07,588 --> 05:20:09,588
IN 2015

6062
05:20:12,593 --> 05:20:13,594
AND WE NOW HAVE 3-YEAR-OLD SON WHO ATTENDS

6063
05:20:13,594 --> 05:20:16,597
PRESCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WALKED TO

6064
05:20:16,597 --> 05:20:18,599
IT WHEN THE WEATHER PERMITS.

6065
05:20:18,599 --> 05:20:19,600
I AM ALSO THE COPRESIDENT OF THE FOREST GROVE

6066
05:20:19,600 --> 05:20:22,570
CITIZENS ASSOCIATION AND THE DEDICATION OF

6067
05:20:22,570 --> 05:20:24,570
THIS COMMUNITY

6068
05:20:31,579 --> 05:20:32,580
TO BE ENGAGED IN

6069
05:20:32,580 --> 05:20:34,582
THE PROCESS MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A PART

6070
05:20:34,582 --> 05:20:35,616
OF IT. WE BELIEVE WE CAN AND SHOULD BE PARTNERS IN THIS ENDEAVOR

6071
05:20:35,616 --> 05:20:37,618
WITH A VOICE IN DECISIONS THAT WILL

6072
05:20:37,618 --> 05:20:38,619
CHANGE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OUR

6073
05:20:38,619 --> 05:20:39,620
FUTURE. HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO

6074
05:20:39,620 --> 05:20:40,621
SEE IMPACT FROM OUR ENGAGEMENT WHEN

6075
05:20:40,621 --> 05:20:41,622
THERE'VE BEEN SO FEW CHANGES IN

6076
05:20:41,622 --> 05:20:42,623
THE PROPOSAL FROM THE FIRST PRESENTATION BY

6077
05:20:42,623 --> 05:20:43,624
THE DEVELOPER TO TODAY. WE APPRECIATE

6078
05:20:43,624 --> 05:20:45,626
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

6079
05:20:45,626 --> 05:20:46,627
WE KNOW IT IS AN EARLY STAGE IN THE PROCESS.

6080
05:20:46,627 --> 05:20:49,627
AS YOU ARE HEARING TODAY,

6081
05:20:49,630 --> 05:20:51,630
THE PROPOSAL FOR

6082
05:20:54,602 --> 05:20:55,603
9801 GEORGIA AVENUE RAISES MANY CONCERNS,

6083
05:20:55,603 --> 05:20:56,604
EVEN FOR A COMMUNITY THAT RECOGNIZES THE

6084
05:20:56,604 --> 05:20:58,606
POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF DEVELOPING THE

6085
05:20:58,606 --> 05:20:59,607
LOT AS RECOMMENDED IN THE SECTOR PLOTS. ONE OF THE STATED

6086
05:20:59,607 --> 05:21:01,609
GOALS IS TO ENCOURAGE QUALITY DESIGN

6087
05:21:01,609 --> 05:21:03,609
THAT INCORPORATES NEIGHBORHOOD

6088
05:21:04,612 --> 05:21:06,612
COMPATIBILITY AND SUSTAINABLE

6089
05:21:06,614 --> 05:21:09,614
DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES. I AM CONCERNED

6090
05:21:09,617 --> 05:21:10,618
THAT NONE OF THOSE ARE ACHIEVED IN

6091
05:21:10,618 --> 05:21:12,618
THIS PROPOSAL.

6092
05:21:15,623 --> 05:21:16,624
THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS SOLID, IMPOSING

6093
05:21:16,624 --> 05:21:18,626
AND IS CLOSE TO THE EDGE ON WOODLAND DRIVE AS POSSIBLE. RATHER

6094
05:21:18,626 --> 05:21:19,627
THAN KEEPING TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

6095
05:21:19,627 --> 05:21:21,627
WITH INDIVIDUAL ENTRANCES,

6096
05:21:25,633 --> 05:21:26,634
ARTICULATED SPACES OR OTHER FEATURES THAT WOULD REFLECT

6097
05:21:26,634 --> 05:21:27,602
ITS LOCATION, THE PROPOSAL WILL IMPOSE

6098
05:21:27,602 --> 05:21:28,603
ITS MONOLITHIC ASSAULT INTO THE HEART OF

6099
05:21:28,603 --> 05:21:30,603
OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

6100
05:21:30,605 --> 05:21:31,606
THE BUILDING IS NOT NEED TO USE EVERY INCH

6101
05:21:31,606 --> 05:21:32,607
OF

6102
05:21:32,607 --> 05:21:34,609
THE TOPOGRAPHY FOR THEIR BUILDING,

6103
05:21:34,609 --> 05:21:36,609
BUT THEY DO.

6104
05:21:36,611 --> 05:21:37,612
THE SCALE IS DISPROPORTIONAL AND TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE

6105
05:21:37,612 --> 05:21:39,612
WITH ITS

6106
05:21:41,616 --> 05:21:43,618
SURROUNDINGS. SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH OLD-GROWTH TREES

6107
05:21:43,618 --> 05:21:47,818
AND YARDS FOR GARDENING AND SWING SETS.

6108
05:21:48,589 --> 05:21:49,590
9801 COMES WITH A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE IN

6109
05:21:49,590 --> 05:21:50,591
BEING THE SITE FOR FUTURE ON-SITE METRO

6110
05:21:50,591 --> 05:21:52,593
ENTRANCE ACCESS, WHICH RELIES THE

6111
05:21:52,593 --> 05:21:54,993
NEED FOR 400+ PARKING SPACES

6112
05:21:55,596 --> 05:21:58,599
FOR 400+ APARTMENT SPACES. HOW IS A TRANSIT

6113
05:21:58,599 --> 05:22:01,569
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, IF THE PROPOSAL ASSUMES

6114
05:22:01,569 --> 05:22:04,572
EVERY RESIDENT NEEDS PARKING SPACE? THERE

6115
05:22:04,572 --> 05:22:06,572
IS NO DETERRENT

6116
05:22:06,574 --> 05:22:07,575
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE

6117
05:22:07,575 --> 05:22:09,577
OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE BELTWAY.

6118
05:22:09,577 --> 05:22:10,578
THIS RECENTLY APPROVED SECTOR PLAN

6119
05:22:10,578 --> 05:22:12,578
REFERENCES HABITAT

6120
05:22:13,581 --> 05:22:15,583
PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION IS A TOP

6121
05:22:15,583 --> 05:22:16,584
PUBLIC BENEFIT AND NOTES THE MEDICAL CENTERS

6122
05:22:16,584 --> 05:22:18,584
1.25

6123
05:22:18,586 --> 05:22:19,587
ACRES OF FORESTED LAND, WHILE THE

6124
05:22:19,587 --> 05:22:21,587
PROPOSAL POINT TWO

6125
05:22:22,590 --> 05:22:24,592
THE NEGLECT OF THE FORESTED PART OF THE

6126
05:22:24,592 --> 05:22:28,596
PROPERTY AS A REASON FOR ELIMINATING IT

6127
05:22:28,596 --> 05:22:29,597
, ENTIRELY. I CANNOT DENY THAT THE AREA IS IN

6128
05:22:29,597 --> 05:22:31,599
ROUGH SHAPE, BUT WHAT MESSAGE DOES

6129
05:22:31,599 --> 05:22:32,600
THAT SEND ? IF A LANDOWNER WANTS TO

6130
05:22:32,600 --> 05:22:34,602
SELL THE PROPERTY BUT DEVELOPMENT

6131
05:22:34,602 --> 05:22:37,605
WILL BE LIMITED BY A FORESTED AREA

6132
05:22:37,605 --> 05:22:39,607
JUST LET IT FALL

6133
05:22:39,607 --> 05:22:40,608
INTO DISARRAY SO IT NO LONGER PROVIDES

6134
05:22:40,608 --> 05:22:42,608
COMMUNITY BENEFIT?

6135
05:22:45,613 --> 05:22:46,614
THEN, YOU CAN CLEAR-CUT IT WITH NO EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT EXPECTED. THIS

6136
05:22:46,614 --> 05:22:49,140
IS A TROUBLING PRECEDENT

6137
05:22:49,617 --> 05:22:52,620
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION

6138
05:22:52,620 --> 05:22:54,620
FOR AMY LINDSAY

6139
05:22:55,623 --> 05:22:57,625
AND HER COLLEAGUES ARE RECEIVING OUR EXTENSIVE FEEDBACK AND

6140
05:22:57,625 --> 05:22:58,626
PREPARING THE STAFF REPORT. I URGE THE

6141
05:22:58,626 --> 05:23:01,629
PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER WHETHER THESE COMPLEX

6142
05:23:01,629 --> 05:23:02,630
AND IMPORTANT QUESTIONS RAISED IN THE STAFF REPORT

6143
05:23:02,630 --> 05:23:04,632
AND WHETHER SO MANY ISSUES WITH THE

6144
05:23:04,632 --> 05:23:07,320
SKETCH PLAN SHOULD RESULT

6145
05:23:07,602 --> 05:23:08,603
IN THE APPLICATION BEING DENIED OR AT

6146
05:23:08,603 --> 05:23:10,603
A MINIMUM,

6147
05:23:13,608 --> 05:23:14,609
BE REQUIRED TO BE REDESIGNED AND RESUBMITTED

6148
05:23:14,609 --> 05:23:17,612
TO THE PLANNING BOARD AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. >> THANK

6149
05:23:17,612 --> 05:23:20,120
YOU VERY MUCH. >> DOT >>

6150
05:23:20,615 --> 05:23:22,615
GOOD AFTERNOON.

6151
05:23:23,618 --> 05:23:25,618
MY

6152
05:23:26,621 --> 05:23:27,622
NAME

6153
05:23:27,622 --> 05:23:29,624
IS RICHARD SIMONS AND ALONG WITH MY

6154
05:23:29,624 --> 05:23:30,625
WIFE, CHRISTINA , AN

6155
05:23:30,625 --> 05:23:33,625
ARCHITECT LIVED ON SHERWOOD ROAD.

6156
05:23:33,628 --> 05:23:34,629
OUR PROPERTY IS ABOUT FIVE HOUSES DOWN

6157
05:23:34,629 --> 05:23:37,629
FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BEING

6158
05:23:38,633 --> 05:23:40,601
DISCUSSED TODAY. IN CONTRAST

6159
05:23:40,601 --> 05:23:41,602
TO MANY THAT HAVE TESTIFIED SO FAR,

6160
05:23:41,602 --> 05:23:42,603
WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SIX

6161
05:23:42,603 --> 05:23:44,605
MONTHS. MUCH OF THE DEVELOPER'S INABILITY

6162
05:23:44,605 --> 05:23:46,605
TO MEET SPECIFIC

6163
05:23:46,607 --> 05:23:48,609
AND IMPORTANT REQUIREMENTS IN THE SECTOR

6164
05:23:48,609 --> 05:23:50,611
PLAN ARE CAUSED BY NOTHING MORE THAN

6165
05:23:50,611 --> 05:23:52,611
THE SELF-INTEREST.

6166
05:23:53,614 --> 05:23:55,614
THE BUILDING

6167
05:23:56,617 --> 05:23:58,617
HAS MORE

6168
05:23:59,620 --> 05:24:01,622
IN COMMON WITH THE POORLY DESIGNED FEDERAL BUILDING AND

6169
05:24:01,622 --> 05:24:02,623
SOMETHING YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IN

6170
05:24:02,623 --> 05:24:05,626
A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE THIS ONE.

6171
05:24:05,626 --> 05:24:06,627
IT WILL BE AT LEAST

6172
05:24:06,627 --> 05:24:08,629
1.5 OR TWO TIMES LARGER ON THE WOODLAND DRIVE

6173
05:24:08,629 --> 05:24:10,631
IN THE TALLEST HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF DOCUMENTATION

6174
05:24:10,631 --> 05:24:11,632
IS BELIEVED. THIS IS CAUSED , IN PART BY

6175
05:24:11,632 --> 05:24:13,632
THE DEVELOPERS

6176
05:24:14,602 --> 05:24:16,602
PLAN TO ENVELOPE

6177
05:24:17,605 --> 05:24:19,605
415

6178
05:24:20,608 --> 05:24:22,608
PARKING SPACES .

6179
05:24:23,611 --> 05:24:26,110
SIMILARLY, AN INABILITY TO

6180
05:24:26,614 --> 05:24:27,615
PROPOSE ADEQUATE GREEN COVERAGE IS

6181
05:24:27,615 --> 05:24:29,617
BLAMED ON A NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS,

6182
05:24:29,617 --> 05:24:30,618
BUT NOT

6183
05:24:30,618 --> 05:24:32,620
ON ANY OF THEIR PARTICULAR DESIGN DECISIONS.

6184
05:24:32,620 --> 05:24:34,620
THE APPLICANT

6185
05:24:35,656 --> 05:24:37,658
OPPOSED SOLAR PANELS IN ABSENCE OF A

6186
05:24:37,658 --> 05:24:38,659
GREEN SPACE. THEY TEND TO BE SOME OF

6187
05:24:38,659 --> 05:24:40,659
THE FIRST

6188
05:24:40,661 --> 05:24:43,661
ITEMS ELIMINATED DURING VALUE ENGINEERING.

6189
05:24:45,666 --> 05:24:47,635
UNLESS SPECIFICALLY HELD TO IT, THIS APPLICANT

6190
05:24:47,635 --> 05:24:48,636
IS FOCUSED ON

6191
05:24:48,636 --> 05:24:50,638
PROFIT MARGIN AND THIS BUILDING COULD

6192
05:24:50,638 --> 05:24:51,639
END UP WITH LESS

6193
05:24:51,639 --> 05:24:53,641
ENVIRONMENTAL FRIENDLINESS THEN IS

6194
05:24:53,641 --> 05:24:56,641
ALREADY PROPOSED. LASTLY , THE APPLICANT

6195
05:24:56,644 --> 05:24:58,646
DOES NOT INTEND TO FOLLOW SECTOR

6196
05:24:58,646 --> 05:24:59,647
PLANS RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR RECOMMENDATION

6197
05:24:59,647 --> 05:25:01,647
FOR REDUCED

6198
05:25:02,650 --> 05:25:04,650
ARCING.

6199
05:25:08,656 --> 05:25:11,659
MY WIFE AND I CHOSE THIS AREA

6200
05:25:11,659 --> 05:25:13,659
IN PART

6201
05:25:14,662 --> 05:25:15,663
,

6202
05:25:15,663 --> 05:25:16,664
BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC

6203
05:25:16,664 --> 05:25:17,665
TRANSIT. I DON'T DRIVE AND WE DON'T

6204
05:25:17,665 --> 05:25:18,666
OWN A CAR. WEEK AFTER WEEK

6205
05:25:18,666 --> 05:25:19,667
WE HAVE EASILY GOTTEN GROCERIES AND

6206
05:25:19,667 --> 05:25:20,634
OTHER NECESSITIES USING THE METRO

6207
05:25:20,634 --> 05:25:21,635
TO SILVER SPRING

6208
05:25:21,635 --> 05:25:23,637
OR WHEATON. USING THE SEVEN DIFFERENT

6209
05:25:23,637 --> 05:25:25,639
BUS LINES THAT WILL RUN RIGHT

6210
05:25:25,639 --> 05:25:26,640
BY THIS DEVELOPMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS WILL

6211
05:25:26,640 --> 05:25:28,640
BE GREAT.

6212
05:25:28,642 --> 05:25:29,643
THREE STORE SIT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE

6213
05:25:29,643 --> 05:25:31,643
ARE ONE

6214
05:25:31,645 --> 05:25:32,646
BUS STOP SOUTH OF THIS BUILDING. THE

6215
05:25:32,646 --> 05:25:34,646
JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THIS

6216
05:25:34,648 --> 05:25:38,248
MANY SPACES IS LAZY AND INSINCERE.

6217
05:25:38,652 --> 05:25:39,653
JL BE WANT AS MUCH PARKING,

6218
05:25:39,653 --> 05:25:41,655
NOT DUE TO ANY CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY,

6219
05:25:41,655 --> 05:25:44,655
BUT TO MAKE THIS BUILDING

6220
05:25:44,658 --> 05:25:47,661
ATTRACTIVE TO THE FIRMS THEY INTEND

6221
05:25:47,661 --> 05:25:49,661
TO SELL TO.

6222
05:25:53,667 --> 05:25:54,635
THIS GOES AGAINST

6223
05:25:54,635 --> 05:25:55,636
THE GOALS OF THE COUNTY BUT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T

6224
05:25:55,636 --> 05:25:59,640
CARE AND THEY WANT UNLESS THEY ARE

6225
05:25:59,640 --> 05:26:00,641
MADE TO.

6226
05:26:00,641 --> 05:26:01,642
JLB'S PROPOSED PARKING DISTANCE INCENTIVIZES ANY

6227
05:26:01,642 --> 05:26:02,643
USE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND AS IT STANDS , THEY

6228
05:26:02,643 --> 05:26:04,643
COULD CARE LESS

6229
05:26:05,646 --> 05:26:07,646
WHAT CYNICALLY

6230
05:26:08,649 --> 05:26:11,649
PATTING THEMSELVES ON THE BACK.

6231
05:26:11,652 --> 05:26:12,653
I HOPE MY IN THE

6232
05:26:12,653 --> 05:26:13,654
OTHER LETTERS AND TESTIMONY PROVIDED TODAY FROM

6233
05:26:13,654 --> 05:26:14,655
OTHERS HEALTH SUPPORT THE BOARD IN

6234
05:26:14,655 --> 05:26:16,655
SEEING

6235
05:26:17,658 --> 05:26:20,661
THE POTENTIAL WASTE OF THE SITE AND HOLDS

6236
05:26:20,661 --> 05:26:22,663
JLB REALTY AND IS REPRESENTED TO WHAT IS

6237
05:26:22,663 --> 05:26:23,664
IN THE BEST INTEREST, NOT TO THEIR

6238
05:26:23,664 --> 05:26:25,664
BOTTOM LINE ,

6239
05:26:26,667 --> 05:26:29,637
BUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS

6240
05:26:29,637 --> 05:26:30,638
COMMUNITY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR

6241
05:26:30,638 --> 05:26:32,673
TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> [ APPLAUSE

6242
05:26:32,673 --> 05:26:34,673
] >> MacY JENKINS? >>

6243
05:26:38,679 --> 05:26:41,682
HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY

6244
05:26:41,682 --> 05:26:44,682
AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

6245
05:26:44,685 --> 05:26:46,685
I AM

6246
05:26:47,688 --> 05:26:49,690
A RESIDENT OF THE FIRST GROVE

6247
05:26:49,690 --> 05:26:50,691
CITIZENS ASSOCIATION , LIVING ABOUT

6248
05:26:50,691 --> 05:26:52,691
FIVE HOUSES DOWN

6249
05:26:53,694 --> 05:26:56,694
FROM THE PROPOSED SITE AT

6250
05:26:56,697 --> 05:26:58,697
9806 FOREST

6251
05:26:59,700 --> 05:27:00,668
GROVE DRIVE ON

6252
05:27:00,668 --> 05:27:02,670
THE CORNER OF FOREST GROVE ROAD AND MYRTLE

6253
05:27:02,670 --> 05:27:05,673
ROAD. I HAVE LIVED THEIR ENTIRE LIFE OF ALMOST

6254
05:27:05,673 --> 05:27:08,673
79 YEARS AND I HAVE PUT

6255
05:27:08,676 --> 05:27:10,678
MY LIFE, MY FINANCES

6256
05:27:10,678 --> 05:27:11,679
, MY MEMORIES ALL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

6257
05:27:11,679 --> 05:27:13,679
I AM PASSIONATE

6258
05:27:14,682 --> 05:27:17,682
ABOUT WHAT THE COUNTY IS

6259
05:27:17,685 --> 05:27:20,850
PROPOSING TO DO TO

6260
05:27:20,688 --> 05:27:23,691
OUR WAY OF LIFE. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE

6261
05:27:23,691 --> 05:27:26,694
OUR WAY OF LIFE BY CRAMMING MORE PEOPLE

6262
05:27:26,694 --> 05:27:29,940
INTO AN AREA THAT

6263
05:27:29,697 --> 05:27:32,700
IS NOT DESIRABLE FOR THEM OR US BECAUSE

6264
05:27:32,700 --> 05:27:35,669
THIS TAKES AWAY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING

6265
05:27:35,669 --> 05:27:38,672
OF WHAT THE GOALS ARE FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY

6266
05:27:38,672 --> 05:27:41,675
, IS TO GET MORE CARS OFF THE ROAD. ALL

6267
05:27:41,675 --> 05:27:44,678
OF THIS IS GOING TO ADD MASSIVE CONGESTION

6268
05:27:44,678 --> 05:27:47,681
TO THE INTERSECTION OF FOURTH GLENN , GEORGIA

6269
05:27:47,681 --> 05:27:49,683
AND THE BELTWAY AND

6270
05:27:49,683 --> 05:27:53,283
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

6271
05:27:53,687 --> 05:27:56,690
WE CAN'T SURVIVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

6272
05:27:56,690 --> 05:27:59,690
MAYBE, THE LONG-TERM GOAL, I

6273
05:27:59,693 --> 05:28:02,696
DON'T KNOW IS TO TURN THIS INTO

6274
05:28:02,696 --> 05:28:03,697
AN AREA LIKE SILVER SPRING OR WHEATON

6275
05:28:03,697 --> 05:28:05,697
OR BETHESDA

6276
05:28:07,668 --> 05:28:09,670
BECAUSE IT IS AROUND A METRO STATION,

6277
05:28:09,670 --> 05:28:10,671
BUT IT WAS BUILT AND I WAS

6278
05:28:10,671 --> 05:28:12,673
HERE FIGHTING FOR THE METRO AND FIGHTING

6279
05:28:12,673 --> 05:28:14,673
FOR ITS LOCATION

6280
05:28:18,679 --> 05:28:19,680
.

6281
05:28:19,680 --> 05:28:21,682
WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE THE METRO

6282
05:28:21,682 --> 05:28:24,685
FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY

6283
05:28:24,685 --> 05:28:27,688
AND IT WAS A COMMUNITY STATION.

6284
05:28:27,688 --> 05:28:30,880
IT WASN'T A CENTRAL

6285
05:28:30,724 --> 05:28:32,724
AREA STATION

6286
05:28:33,727 --> 05:28:35,727
.

6287
05:28:36,730 --> 05:28:38,730
OUR STREETS CANNOT

6288
05:28:39,733 --> 05:28:41,702
STAND THE TRAFFIC.

6289
05:28:41,702 --> 05:28:42,703
THIS IS MYRTLE ROAD RIGHT ON THE CORNER

6290
05:28:42,703 --> 05:28:44,703
WHERE

6291
05:28:45,706 --> 05:28:48,106
I LIVE. YOU SAW

6292
05:28:48,709 --> 05:28:50,709
THIS PICTURE PREVIOUSLY.

6293
05:28:51,712 --> 05:28:54,712
MY HUSBAND TOOK THIS ONE.

6294
05:28:55,716 --> 05:28:57,718
IT IS ABOUT 90 INCHES ACROSS HERE.

6295
05:28:57,718 --> 05:28:59,718
A

6296
05:29:00,721 --> 05:29:02,721
BUS IS 95 TO 105

6297
05:29:03,724 --> 05:29:06,724
INCHES WIDE. A GARBAGE TRUCK

6298
05:29:06,727 --> 05:29:08,727
IS

6299
05:29:09,730 --> 05:29:11,730
ABOUT 102 INCHES WIDE

6300
05:29:12,733 --> 05:29:15,703
AND A CLASSIC SINGLE REAR

6301
05:29:15,703 --> 05:29:18,706
AXLE FIRE TRUCK HAS A WIDTH OF

6302
05:29:18,706 --> 05:29:20,706
98 TO 100 INCHES .

6303
05:29:21,709 --> 05:29:23,711
THEY WILL NOT FIT HERE. I UNLOAD

6304
05:29:23,711 --> 05:29:24,712
MY GROCERIES AND YOU CAN SEE I AM

6305
05:29:24,712 --> 05:29:26,712
HANDICAPPED. I

6306
05:29:27,715 --> 05:29:29,715
AM OLDER

6307
05:29:30,718 --> 05:29:33,721
. I HAVEN'T BEEN THIS WAY ALL MY LIFE,

6308
05:29:33,721 --> 05:29:35,723
BUT IT HAPPENS. I UNLOAD MY

6309
05:29:35,723 --> 05:29:36,724
GROCERIES HERE BECAUSE IT IS FLAT

6310
05:29:36,724 --> 05:29:39,727
AND I CAN GET INTO MY

6311
05:29:39,727 --> 05:29:41,729
HOUSE EASIER THIS WAY. I HAVE A NICE BIG

6312
05:29:41,729 --> 05:29:45,733
GARAGE, BUT THERE IS A HILL UP TO

6313
05:29:45,733 --> 05:29:47,701
IT. I HAVE BEEN CALLED MORE

6314
05:29:47,701 --> 05:29:48,702
THAN ONCE, MANY TIMES BY THE BLARING

6315
05:29:48,702 --> 05:29:50,702
OF A HORN.

6316
05:29:52,706 --> 05:29:54,708
PLEASE, SOMEBODY COME OUT AND MOVE YOUR

6317
05:29:54,708 --> 05:29:56,710
CAR BECAUSE A TRASH TRUCK, A

6318
05:29:56,710 --> 05:29:59,713
FIRE ENGINE , AN AMBULANCE CANNOT GET

6319
05:29:59,713 --> 05:30:03,717
THROUGH. IT IS NOT SAFE ON OUR STREET

6320
05:30:03,717 --> 05:30:04,718
TO HAVE ALL OF THIS

6321
05:30:04,718 --> 05:30:06,720
TRAFFIC. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

6322
05:30:06,720 --> 05:30:09,720
>> PLEASE, PLEASE RESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

6323
05:30:09,723 --> 05:30:12,123
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>

6324
05:30:12,726 --> 05:30:14,726
[ APPLAUSE ] >> DARRELL

6325
05:30:15,729 --> 05:30:16,730
DAVIS? >> GOOD

6326
05:30:16,730 --> 05:30:18,732
AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING

6327
05:30:18,732 --> 05:30:21,702
THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS

6328
05:30:21,702 --> 05:30:24,102
ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

6329
05:30:24,705 --> 05:30:26,705
MY NAME

6330
05:30:26,707 --> 05:30:29,743
IS DARRELL DAVIS. MY WIFE AND I IN THREE CHILDREN ARE LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF THE FOREST

6331
05:30:29,743 --> 05:30:30,744
GROVE ASSOCIATION AND THE COMMUNITY ADJACENT

6332
05:30:30,744 --> 05:30:32,744
TO 9801

6333
05:30:33,747 --> 05:30:34,748
GEORGIA AVENUE. LIKE MANY

6334
05:30:34,748 --> 05:30:36,750
OF OUR NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT

6335
05:30:36,750 --> 05:30:38,750
THE IMPACT

6336
05:30:39,753 --> 05:30:40,754
FOR THE

6337
05:30:40,754 --> 05:30:41,755
DEVELOPMENTS PLANNED ON THIS PROPERTY THAT

6338
05:30:41,755 --> 05:30:42,756
INCLUDES HUNDREDS OF PARKING SPACES

6339
05:30:42,756 --> 05:30:43,757
AN ENTRANCE ONTO AN

6340
05:30:43,757 --> 05:30:46,757
ALREADY CROWDED STREET, WOODLAND DRIVE,

6341
05:30:47,761 --> 05:30:51,765
MINIMAL GREEN SPACES AND BUFFER SPACES BETWEEN

6342
05:30:51,765 --> 05:30:52,766
THE TWO

6343
05:30:52,766 --> 05:30:53,767
BLOCK COMPLEX AND NEIGHBORING HOUSES. WE

6344
05:30:53,767 --> 05:30:54,702
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT THAT

6345
05:30:54,702 --> 05:30:57,705
WILL NOT ALIGN TO OR INTEGRATE WITH

6346
05:30:57,705 --> 05:30:59,707
NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERNS . RESIDUAL TRAFFIC AND

6347
05:30:59,707 --> 05:31:00,708
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES WITH HUNDREDS OF

6348
05:31:00,708 --> 05:31:02,708
CARS EXITING ONTO

6349
05:31:03,711 --> 05:31:06,714
WOODLAND DRIVE . AS WE HAVE HEARD ALREADY,

6350
05:31:06,714 --> 05:31:09,714
IT HAS VERY LIMITED CAPACITY.

6351
05:31:09,717 --> 05:31:10,718
AND, BUFFER SPACE BETWEEN

6352
05:31:10,718 --> 05:31:11,719
THE PROPOSED COMPLEX AND NEIGHBORS HOUSES.

6353
05:31:11,719 --> 05:31:12,720
WOODLAND DRIVE AND ADJACENT STREETS

6354
05:31:12,720 --> 05:31:14,720
ARE ALREADY USED

6355
05:31:15,723 --> 05:31:17,725
AS RUSH-HOUR THOROUGHFARES BY DRIVERS CUTTING THROUGH

6356
05:31:17,725 --> 05:31:18,726
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THEIR WAYS TO AND

6357
05:31:18,726 --> 05:31:20,726
FROM WORK

6358
05:31:20,728 --> 05:31:24,328
. THESE ARE VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS

6359
05:31:24,732 --> 05:31:27,732
AND HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BY CHILDREN

6360
05:31:28,702 --> 05:31:30,702
AND PEDESTRIANS.

6361
05:31:30,704 --> 05:31:31,705
IT IS VERY HARD TO IMAGINE THE ADDITION

6362
05:31:31,705 --> 05:31:33,707
OF POSSIBLY HUNDREDS OF CARS ADDITIONALLY ONTO THESE

6363
05:31:33,707 --> 05:31:34,708
STREETS IN A DAILY FASHION. WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU

6364
05:31:34,708 --> 05:31:35,709
TO

6365
05:31:35,709 --> 05:31:39,309
WORK WITH POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO LIMIT

6366
05:31:39,713 --> 05:31:42,716
CAR ALLOWANCES IN THIS COMPLEX , ENCOURAGING

6367
05:31:42,716 --> 05:31:46,720
NEW RESIDENTS TO USE THE FOREST GLEN METRO

6368
05:31:46,720 --> 05:31:47,721
AND BUS ACCESS AS MANY IN OUR

6369
05:31:47,721 --> 05:31:48,722
NEIGHBORHOOD DO. WE ALSO STRONGLY

6370
05:31:48,722 --> 05:31:49,723
ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS

6371
05:31:49,723 --> 05:31:50,724
TO

6372
05:31:50,724 --> 05:31:52,726
LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING

6373
05:31:52,726 --> 05:31:54,726
SO THAT THE

6374
05:31:54,728 --> 05:31:57,728
SIZE AND ARCHITECTURE WILL CONFORM

6375
05:31:57,731 --> 05:31:59,733
MORE CLOSELY WITH THOSE IN OUR EXISTING

6376
05:31:59,733 --> 05:32:01,702
NEIGHBORHOOD. WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU

6377
05:32:01,702 --> 05:32:03,704
TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS

6378
05:32:03,704 --> 05:32:05,706
FINALLY, TO LIMIT ENTRANCES AND EXITS IN

6379
05:32:05,706 --> 05:32:07,708
THIS COMPLEX TO GEORGIA AVENUE SO THAT

6380
05:32:07,708 --> 05:32:10,708
WOODLAND DRIVE DOES NOT BECOME

6381
05:32:10,711 --> 05:32:11,712
A TRAFFIC SAFETY HAZARD THAT

6382
05:32:11,712 --> 05:32:13,714
COULD SPILL OVER INTO SMALLER NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

6383
05:32:13,714 --> 05:32:15,714
NONE

6384
05:32:16,717 --> 05:32:19,117
OF THEM ARE EQUIPPED 200

6385
05:32:19,720 --> 05:32:21,720
TO HANDLE

6386
05:32:22,723 --> 05:32:23,724
INCREASED TRAFFIC.

6387
05:32:23,724 --> 05:32:24,725
WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE USE

6388
05:32:24,725 --> 05:32:27,125
OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING

6389
05:32:28,762 --> 05:32:30,762
MAINTAINING INTEGRITY OF

6390
05:32:31,765 --> 05:32:33,765
HER NEIGHBORHOODS.

6391
05:32:34,735 --> 05:32:35,736
I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN ACCOMPLISHES NONE OF

6392
05:32:35,736 --> 05:32:37,738
THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. >> THANK

6393
05:32:37,738 --> 05:32:40,738
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. >> [ APPLAUSE

6394
05:32:40,741 --> 05:32:43,141
] >> OUR NEXT PANEL PLEASE.

6395
05:33:16,743 --> 05:33:19,143
MONICA BRADFORD? PLEASE GO

6396
05:33:19,746 --> 05:33:22,746
AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM

6397
05:33:23,750 --> 05:33:24,751
MONICA BRADFORD AND MY HUSBAND AND I

6398
05:33:24,751 --> 05:33:25,752
HAVE LIVED IN THE FOREST THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR

6399
05:33:25,752 --> 05:33:27,752
35 YEARS. WE

6400
05:33:27,754 --> 05:33:28,755
HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY

6401
05:33:28,755 --> 05:33:29,756
IN THIS DIVERSE,

6402
05:33:29,756 --> 05:33:31,758
WELCOMING COMMUNITY. WE SUPPORT THE SECTOR

6403
05:33:31,758 --> 05:33:33,760
PLANS PROPOSALS TO PROVIDE MORE

6404
05:33:33,760 --> 05:33:34,761
AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOUR TRANSIT AND

6405
05:33:34,761 --> 05:33:36,761
ITS ALIGNMENT

6406
05:33:37,764 --> 05:33:40,767
WITH THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN. HOWEVER,

6407
05:33:40,767 --> 05:33:42,736
OUR ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS SECTOR

6408
05:33:42,736 --> 05:33:43,737
PLAN DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO SUPPORT

6409
05:33:43,737 --> 05:33:45,737
FOR

6410
05:33:45,739 --> 05:33:49,339
THE SKETCH PLAN BEING CONSIDERED TODAY.

6411
05:33:49,743 --> 05:33:50,744
THE SECTOR PLAN

6412
05:33:50,744 --> 05:33:52,746
IDENTIFIES A MEDICAL CENTER AS AN

6413
05:33:52,746 --> 05:33:54,746
OPPORTUNITY AREA AND

6414
05:33:54,748 --> 05:33:55,749
CLEARLY ARTICULATES THE CHALLENGES AND

6415
05:33:55,749 --> 05:33:57,749
GOALS RELATED

6416
05:33:58,752 --> 05:34:00,754
TO DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. UNFORTUNATELY,

6417
05:34:00,754 --> 05:34:01,755
THE CHALLENGES OF THIS SITE ARE USED

6418
05:34:01,755 --> 05:34:03,755
TO

6419
05:34:03,757 --> 05:34:04,758
DISMISS PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION

6420
05:34:04,758 --> 05:34:06,758
DECISIONS THAT

6421
05:34:07,761 --> 05:34:10,764
MADE CONFORMITY DIFFICULT ARE NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.

6422
05:34:10,764 --> 05:34:11,765
IF THE DEVELOPER HAS

6423
05:34:11,765 --> 05:34:13,767
STARTED WITH DIFFERENT DESIGN PARAMETERS, WE

6424
05:34:13,767 --> 05:34:16,167
WOULD BE DISCUSSING A

6425
05:34:16,737 --> 05:34:19,137
DIFFERENT SKETCH ONE TODAY.

6426
05:34:19,740 --> 05:34:22,743
IT WOULD BE ONE THAT MORE ALIGNED WITH THE

6427
05:34:22,743 --> 05:34:23,744
SECTOR PLAN VISION.

6428
05:34:23,744 --> 05:34:25,746
ONE DESIGN ASSUMPTION YOU HAVE HEARD

6429
05:34:25,746 --> 05:34:26,747
A LOT ABOUT IS THE NEED FOR OVER 50

6430
05:34:26,747 --> 05:34:28,782
PARKING SPACES. SETTING ASIDE THE QUESTION

6431
05:34:28,782 --> 05:34:30,784
OF WHY SO MUCH PARKING IS NEEDED OVER A

6432
05:34:30,784 --> 05:34:31,785
METRO STATION, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT

6433
05:34:31,785 --> 05:34:33,785
OF THESE CARS

6434
05:34:34,788 --> 05:34:36,790
. DESCRIPTIONS AND DATA IN THE SECTOR PLAN

6435
05:34:36,790 --> 05:34:39,790
TRAFFIC APPENDIX ALREADY ILLUSTRATE THAT

6436
05:34:40,794 --> 05:34:41,795
THE FOREST GLENN AREA

6437
05:34:41,795 --> 05:34:43,797
HAS FACED A SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT

6438
05:34:43,797 --> 05:34:45,797
MUST BE

6439
05:34:45,799 --> 05:34:48,799
MITIGATED. ACCORDING TO THIS APPENDIX

6440
05:34:49,770 --> 05:34:50,771
, GEORGIA AVENUE IS A HIGH-PRIORITY

6441
05:34:50,771 --> 05:34:53,171
QUARTER FOR ENGINEERING IMPROVEMENTS

6442
05:34:55,776 --> 05:34:58,176
. ON THE FEW ROADS

6443
05:34:58,779 --> 05:35:00,779
THAT PARALYZE PARALLEL

6444
05:35:00,781 --> 05:35:01,782
GEORGIA AVENUE IS WOODLAND DRIVE. MOTORISTS

6445
05:35:01,782 --> 05:35:03,782
ARE SPEAKING

6446
05:35:04,785 --> 05:35:06,787
TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME

6447
05:35:06,787 --> 05:35:07,788
DUE TO CONGESTION ON GEORGIA AVENUE. EXCESSIVE

6448
05:35:07,788 --> 05:35:10,188
VEHICLE SPEEDS ON THE

6449
05:35:10,791 --> 05:35:13,191
SIDE STREETS ARE DETRIMENTAL

6450
05:35:13,794 --> 05:35:15,794
TO SAFETY AND

6451
05:35:15,796 --> 05:35:18,799
THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

6452
05:35:18,799 --> 05:35:19,800
THIS IS NOTED AND STATED IN THE TRAFFIC

6453
05:35:19,800 --> 05:35:22,200
APPENDIX. THE APPENDIX RECOMMENDS

6454
05:35:22,769 --> 05:35:23,770
TRAFFIC CALMING EFFORTS AND

6455
05:35:23,770 --> 05:35:25,772
A POSSIBLE SPEED CAMERA INSTALLATION

6456
05:35:25,772 --> 05:35:27,772
ON WOODLAND DRIVE.

6457
05:35:28,775 --> 05:35:29,776
THAT IS THE SAME EXPECTED

6458
05:35:29,776 --> 05:35:31,778
TO PROVIDE PARKING SPACES FOR METRO DROP

6459
05:35:31,778 --> 05:35:34,781
OFF AND AN ENTRY TO THE DEVELOPMENTS PARKING

6460
05:35:34,781 --> 05:35:37,784
LOT. KNOWING THE CURRENT TRAFFIC ISSUES , CAN

6461
05:35:37,784 --> 05:35:40,787
ANYONE THINK ALLOWING PARKING FOR OVER

6462
05:35:40,787 --> 05:35:43,787
500 CARS IS A GOOD IDEA?

6463
05:35:43,790 --> 05:35:46,793
CLEARLY NOT THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THE SECTOR PLAN.

6464
05:35:46,793 --> 05:35:47,794
THEY RECOMMENDED

6465
05:35:47,794 --> 05:35:49,796
REDUCING PARKING AT THE SITE TO THE

6466
05:35:49,796 --> 05:35:52,799
GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. WE ARE ALREADY

6467
05:35:52,799 --> 05:35:53,800
LIVING WITH FRUSTRATED DRIVERS

6468
05:35:53,800 --> 05:35:55,769
SPEEDING ON OUR STREETS AND MAKING

6469
05:35:55,769 --> 05:35:57,769
UNSAFE TURNS. THIS

6470
05:35:58,772 --> 05:35:59,773
SKETCH PLAN IS THE FIRST MARKET REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR THIS

6471
05:35:59,773 --> 05:36:01,775
AREA SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE SECT

6472
05:36:01,775 --> 05:36:03,777
OR PLAN. IT IS IMPERATIVE

6473
05:36:03,777 --> 05:36:04,778
THAT THE BOARD RULES IN SUPPORT OF THE

6474
05:36:04,778 --> 05:36:06,778
SECTOR PLAN

6475
05:36:07,781 --> 05:36:10,781
, AS TODAY'S DECISION WILL IMPACT

6476
05:36:10,784 --> 05:36:12,786
HOW DEVELOPERS THINK ABOUT THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY

6477
05:36:12,786 --> 05:36:13,787
AREAS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN. THE FIRST

6478
05:36:13,787 --> 05:36:15,787
STEP IN

6479
05:36:15,789 --> 05:36:16,790
TURNING OUR VISION FOR SAFE COMMUNITY

6480
05:36:16,790 --> 05:36:18,790
INTO REALITY

6481
05:36:18,792 --> 05:36:19,793
IS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN SKETCH

6482
05:36:19,793 --> 05:36:21,793
PLAN'S AND

6483
05:36:22,796 --> 05:36:24,798
RECOMMENDATIONS CLEARLY LAID OUT IN

6484
05:36:24,798 --> 05:36:26,833
SECTOR PLANS. TAKE THIS FIRST STEP

6485
05:36:26,833 --> 05:36:28,802
BY VOTING TO REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE

6486
05:36:28,802 --> 05:36:30,802
SKETCH PLAN AS

6487
05:36:31,805 --> 05:36:34,205
RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF

6488
05:36:36,810 --> 05:36:37,811
AND THE FOREST GROVE CITIZENS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES. >>

6489
05:36:37,811 --> 05:36:38,812
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

6490
05:36:38,812 --> 05:36:40,814
>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> WHITNEY?

6491
05:36:40,814 --> 05:36:42,814
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

6492
05:36:43,817 --> 05:36:45,819
MY NAME IS WHITNEY

6493
05:36:45,819 --> 05:36:46,820
MORAN. I'M A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AND

6494
05:36:46,820 --> 05:36:49,820
A RESIDENT OF THE FOREST

6495
05:36:49,823 --> 05:36:52,823
GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM SPEAKING

6496
05:36:52,826 --> 05:36:55,829
TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU NOT APPROVE THE

6497
05:36:55,829 --> 05:36:58,829
CURRENT SKETCH PLAN FOR 9801 GEORGIA

6498
05:36:58,832 --> 05:37:00,832
AVENUE. I SHOULD

6499
05:37:00,834 --> 05:37:01,802
BE IN MY CLASS TODAY TEACHING MY STUDENTS,

6500
05:37:01,802 --> 05:37:03,804
I AM HERE WITH YOU BECAUSE I FEEL VERY

6501
05:37:03,804 --> 05:37:04,805
STRONGLY ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ,

6502
05:37:04,805 --> 05:37:06,805
ABOUT THE

6503
05:37:07,808 --> 05:37:09,810
SKETCH PLAN AND ABOUT

6504
05:37:09,810 --> 05:37:10,811
THE PLANS GOING FORWARD THAT YOU ARE

6505
05:37:10,811 --> 05:37:12,811
RESPONSIBLE FOR.

6506
05:37:13,814 --> 05:37:15,816
WHEN WE MOVED HERE OVER ONE

6507
05:37:15,816 --> 05:37:17,818
DECADE AGO, MY FAMILY CHOSE MONTGOMERY

6508
05:37:17,818 --> 05:37:19,820
COUNTY BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THE

6509
05:37:19,820 --> 05:37:22,820
LEADERSHIP LISTENED TO ITS CONSTITUENTS

6510
05:37:23,824 --> 05:37:25,826
AND THE VALUES MATCHED OUR OWN.

6511
05:37:25,826 --> 05:37:29,830
WHEN WE WILL PAY OUR TAXES FOR MORE TEACHERS

6512
05:37:29,830 --> 05:37:30,831
IN THE UPCOMING YEARS , I

6513
05:37:30,831 --> 05:37:32,833
AM HOLDING IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE

6514
05:37:32,833 --> 05:37:34,801
THOSE VALUES MATCH

6515
05:37:34,801 --> 05:37:35,802
OUR OWN. THE SECTOR PLANS VALUES ALSO

6516
05:37:35,802 --> 05:37:37,802
MATCH

6517
05:37:38,805 --> 05:37:41,805
OUR OWN. THIS SKETCH PLAN

6518
05:37:41,808 --> 05:37:43,810
DOES NOT. WHEN WE LOOK

6519
05:37:43,810 --> 05:37:47,814
AT THE PICTURES TODAY, I FIND IT SHOCKING

6520
05:37:47,814 --> 05:37:49,814
AND ASTOUNDING THAT

6521
05:37:49,816 --> 05:37:52,819
NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO SEE WHAT OUR

6522
05:37:52,819 --> 05:37:56,419
COMMUNITY FINDS SO AMAZING. LOOK AT

6523
05:37:56,823 --> 05:37:57,824
THE SIZE AND SCOPE AND THEN ,

6524
05:37:57,824 --> 05:37:59,826
LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES THAT ARE

6525
05:37:59,826 --> 05:38:02,226
RIGHT BEHIND IT. MONTGOMERY

6526
05:38:02,829 --> 05:38:04,831
COUNTY CLAIMS TO WANT TO HAVE

6527
05:38:04,831 --> 05:38:05,832
HEALTHY COMMUNITIES, YET IGNORES THE FACT

6528
05:38:05,832 --> 05:38:06,833
THAT THIS

6529
05:38:06,833 --> 05:38:09,803
DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE OUR COMMUNITY UNSAFE.

6530
05:38:09,803 --> 05:38:11,805
YOU HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN

6531
05:38:11,805 --> 05:38:12,806
ABOUT THE TRAFFIC

6532
05:38:12,806 --> 05:38:14,808
. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DESIGNED FOR

6533
05:38:14,808 --> 05:38:16,808
100 TO 200 CARS

6534
05:38:17,811 --> 05:38:19,811
.

6535
05:38:20,814 --> 05:38:21,815
THE

6536
05:38:21,815 --> 05:38:22,816
500 CARS WILL VASTLY OVERWHELM OUR STREETS.

6537
05:38:22,816 --> 05:38:23,817
YOU HAVE HEARD THAT TIME AND TIME

6538
05:38:23,817 --> 05:38:25,817
AGAIN.

6539
05:38:25,852 --> 05:38:26,853
WHY WOULD WE APPROVE A GIANT BUILDING THAT

6540
05:38:26,853 --> 05:38:28,853
TAKES AWAY

6541
05:38:28,855 --> 05:38:29,856
ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE ON A STREET

6542
05:38:29,856 --> 05:38:31,856
CALLED

6543
05:38:31,858 --> 05:38:34,861
FOREST GLEN AND ANOTHER STREET CALLED

6544
05:38:34,861 --> 05:38:35,862
, WOODLAND ? WHY WOULD THE PLANNING

6545
05:38:35,862 --> 05:38:37,862
BOARD TALK

6546
05:38:38,865 --> 05:38:41,835
GREENWAYS AND NOT INSIST ON

6547
05:38:41,835 --> 05:38:43,835
MORE GREEN DEVELOPMENT?

6548
05:38:43,837 --> 05:38:44,838
WHY WOULD WE EVEN MAKE RULES ABOUT

6549
05:38:44,838 --> 05:38:46,838
SIGNAGE AND NOT

6550
05:38:47,841 --> 05:38:50,841
REQUIRE A VERY WEALTHY DEVELOPER

6551
05:38:50,844 --> 05:38:52,846
TO GO BY THE RULES?

6552
05:38:52,846 --> 05:38:56,850
WHY DO WE SHRUG AND PASS ALL OF OUR VALUES

6553
05:38:56,850 --> 05:38:58,852
AS IF THEY ARE NOT IMPORTANT? WHAT ARE

6554
05:38:58,852 --> 05:38:59,853
WE TELLING OUR STUDENTS AND WHAT ARE

6555
05:38:59,853 --> 05:39:01,853
WE TELLING OUR

6556
05:39:01,855 --> 05:39:05,859
COMMUNITY MEMBERS? AND, WHO WILL NOT DRIVE

6557
05:39:05,859 --> 05:39:07,861
OFF OF 495 INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND WONDER

6558
05:39:07,861 --> 05:39:08,862
, WHO DESIGNED THAT BUILDING FOR THIS SPACE?

6559
05:39:08,862 --> 05:39:10,862
WHAT

6560
05:39:11,865 --> 05:39:13,865
WERE THEY THINKING?

6561
05:39:13,867 --> 05:39:17,837
WHY WOULD WE APPROVED THIS MASSIVE BUILDING

6562
05:39:17,837 --> 05:39:19,840
AT THIS FOR 95 EXIT THAT YOU HAVE ALL

6563
05:39:19,840 --> 05:39:23,844
DRIVEN PAST TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND

6564
05:39:23,844 --> 05:39:26,847
YOU KNOW IT IS A MESS. WHY WOULD WE

6565
05:39:26,847 --> 05:39:29,849
NOT HAVE A SMARTER DESIGN FOR

6566
05:39:29,849 --> 05:39:30,850
THIS SPACE ? PLEASE

6567
05:39:30,850 --> 05:39:32,852
VOTE NO FOR THE SKETCH DEVELOPMENT.

6568
05:39:32,852 --> 05:39:34,852
>> 495.

6569
05:39:38,859 --> 05:39:40,859
>> THANK YOU. >>

6570
05:39:41,862 --> 05:39:43,862
NEXT. >>

6571
05:39:50,837 --> 05:39:53,837
I BROUGHT MY OWN ARTIFACT.

6572
05:39:59,846 --> 05:40:01,846
I AM 23

6573
05:40:01,848 --> 05:40:02,849
YEAR RESIDENT AND I LIVE ON BELVEDERE BOULEVARD

6574
05:40:02,849 --> 05:40:04,849
IN

6575
05:40:05,819 --> 05:40:08,819
THIS HOUSE HERE. MY WIFE

6576
05:40:11,825 --> 05:40:12,826
WORKS IN TAKOMA PARK MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SHE ALWAYS HAS

6577
05:40:12,826 --> 05:40:14,828
TO COME OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND

6578
05:40:14,828 --> 05:40:15,829
DRIVE SOUTH. I WORK UP IN GERMANTOWN SO I

6579
05:40:15,829 --> 05:40:17,831
ALWAYS HAVE TO COME OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

6580
05:40:17,831 --> 05:40:21,801
AND DRIVE SOUTH TO GET NORTH, RIGHT?

6581
05:40:21,801 --> 05:40:23,837
THIS IS BASICALLY, WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

6582
05:40:23,837 --> 05:40:25,837
LOOKS LIKE , A

6583
05:40:26,840 --> 05:40:29,840
SNAPSHOT ANY DAY BETWEEN 7:00 AND 9:00

6584
05:40:29,843 --> 05:40:31,843
IN THE MORNING.

6585
05:40:31,845 --> 05:40:32,846
YOU HAVE THIS LONG BACKUP AND THERE

6586
05:40:32,846 --> 05:40:33,847
IS ANOTHER

6587
05:40:33,847 --> 05:40:35,849
GENTLEMAN THAT SHOWED YOU THIS ALREADY

6588
05:40:35,849 --> 05:40:38,852
ON FOREST GLEN. WE HAVE CARS TRYING TO GET

6589
05:40:38,852 --> 05:40:40,854
OUT. THIS IS USUALLY THE WAY I WOULD COME

6590
05:40:40,854 --> 05:40:41,855
TO TRY TO GET OUT HERE AND THERE IS A

6591
05:40:41,855 --> 05:40:43,855
LINEUP OF FOUR

6592
05:40:44,858 --> 05:40:45,859
OR FIVE CARS AT ANY POINT IN TIME. IT

6593
05:40:45,859 --> 05:40:47,861
MIGHT TAKE MANY CYCLES OF THIS LIGHT TO

6594
05:40:47,861 --> 05:40:49,863
GET THROUGH THERE. THERE IS OFTEN

6595
05:40:49,863 --> 05:40:50,864
A POLICE OFFICER SITTING HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE

6596
05:40:50,864 --> 05:40:53,264
GET SO FRUSTRATED ON

6597
05:40:53,867 --> 05:40:56,836
FOREST GLEN THAT THEY CROSSED THE DOUBLE YELLOW TO

6598
05:40:56,836 --> 05:40:58,838
TRY TO GET INTO THIS DOUBLE LINE HERE.

6599
05:40:58,838 --> 05:40:59,839
IT HAPPENS ALL OF THE TIME. CLEARLY

6600
05:40:59,839 --> 05:41:01,839
, IT PRESENTS A

6601
05:41:02,842 --> 05:41:04,842
SAFETY HAZARD. BASICALLY ,

6602
05:41:05,845 --> 05:41:07,847
WE CAN BARELY MANAGE

6603
05:41:07,847 --> 05:41:10,850
THE SITUATION AS IT IS NOW. YOU CAN IMAGINE

6604
05:41:10,850 --> 05:41:11,851
THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CARS THAT WANT

6605
05:41:11,851 --> 05:41:13,851
TO

6606
05:41:13,853 --> 05:41:14,854
GO SOUTH , AS THERE ARE RIGHT NOW

6607
05:41:14,854 --> 05:41:15,855
BECAUSE IT IS THE ACCESS TO THE

6608
05:41:15,855 --> 05:41:17,857
BELTWAY IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. IT IS

6609
05:41:17,857 --> 05:41:20,257
THE ACCESS TO DOWNTOWN

6610
05:41:20,860 --> 05:41:23,863
SILVER SPRING AND THE ACCESS TO

6611
05:41:23,863 --> 05:41:24,864
D.C. THEY'RE

6612
05:41:24,864 --> 05:41:26,866
JUST NOT THAT MANY CARS GOING NORTH.

6613
05:41:26,866 --> 05:41:29,836
THIS IS WHERE THEY WILL GO.

6614
05:41:29,836 --> 05:41:30,837
NOW, IMAGINE ANOTHER 200+ CARS AND

6615
05:41:30,837 --> 05:41:32,839
I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE I'M TRYING

6616
05:41:32,839 --> 05:41:34,841
TO BE REALISTIC. THERE ARE 400+ UNITS. LET'S

6617
05:41:34,841 --> 05:41:35,842
SAY HALF OF THEM NEED TO GO SOUTH.

6618
05:41:35,842 --> 05:41:37,842
A WHOLE

6619
05:41:37,844 --> 05:41:43,244
BUNCH OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTED

6620
05:41:43,850 --> 05:41:44,851
IN GETTING INTO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE

6621
05:41:44,851 --> 05:41:45,852
IT IS SO CLOSE TO THE BELTWAY. THEY CAN GO

6622
05:41:45,852 --> 05:41:47,854
TO VIRGINIA OR BALTIMORE OR ANYWHERE VERY

6623
05:41:47,854 --> 05:41:49,856
EASILY. I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD

6624
05:41:49,856 --> 05:41:50,857
TO THINK THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO

6625
05:41:50,857 --> 05:41:52,857
COMPLETELY OVERWHELM

6626
05:41:55,862 --> 05:41:56,863
OUR TRAFFIC SYSTEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

6627
05:41:56,863 --> 05:41:58,863
IT IS

6628
05:41:58,865 --> 05:41:59,866
COMPLETELY OBVIOUS FROM THIS. YOU

6629
05:41:59,866 --> 05:42:02,836
CAN'T GO OUT TILTON BECAUSE

6630
05:42:02,836 --> 05:42:05,839
THERE IS NO LIGHT OR ANYTHING.

6631
05:42:05,839 --> 05:42:08,842
THERE IS NO WAY TO GET ACROSS GEORGIA AVENUE IN

6632
05:42:08,842 --> 05:42:13,642
THE MORNING. THAT, ITSELF IS A SAFETY HAZARD.

6633
05:42:13,847 --> 05:42:14,848
YOU CAN COME OUT AUGUST BY GOING AROUND THE

6634
05:42:14,848 --> 05:42:16,850
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE IS A WHOLE PART OF

6635
05:42:16,850 --> 05:42:17,851
THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP HERE THAT IS USING AUGUST.

6636
05:42:17,851 --> 05:42:20,854
SO, THERE IS ALWAYS A BACK UP

6637
05:42:20,854 --> 05:42:22,854
THERE. BASICALLY , TO

6638
05:42:22,889 --> 05:42:23,890
ME NOT HAVING A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS POINT,

6639
05:42:23,890 --> 05:42:26,290
AND THE DEVELOPER NOT

6640
05:42:26,893 --> 05:42:27,894
DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY IS

6641
05:42:27,894 --> 05:42:29,896
A COMPLETE DERELICTION OF DUTY. IT

6642
05:42:29,896 --> 05:42:31,896
IS A RESPONSIBLE

6643
05:42:31,898 --> 05:42:32,899
AND AS JENNA SAID EARLIER, IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO

6644
05:42:32,899 --> 05:42:34,899
OUR COMMUNITY.

6645
05:42:35,869 --> 05:42:38,872
I WILL LEAVE IT WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >>

6646
05:42:38,872 --> 05:42:40,872
THANK YOU.

6647
05:42:41,875 --> 05:42:43,875
>> MICHELLE ROSENFELD

6648
05:42:44,878 --> 05:42:47,881
, ALSO KNOWN AS A SIGN HOLDER

6649
05:42:47,881 --> 05:42:50,884
SPEAKING FOR THE FOREST GLEN CIVIC

6650
05:42:50,884 --> 05:42:52,886
ASSOCIATION. >> THAT WAS FOR CLARITY, THE

6651
05:42:52,886 --> 05:42:53,887
RECORD, RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

6652
05:42:53,887 --> 05:42:55,887
I AM

6653
05:42:56,890 --> 05:42:59,893
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE FOREST GROWTH CITIZENS

6654
05:42:59,893 --> 05:43:02,896
ASSOCIATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THANK

6655
05:43:02,896 --> 05:43:04,896
YOU TO

6656
05:43:05,899 --> 05:43:08,868
AMY LINDSEY FOR FIELDING NUMEROUS CORRESPONDENCE, INCLUDING

6657
05:43:08,868 --> 05:43:10,870
FROM ME. AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED

6658
05:43:10,870 --> 05:43:11,871
A FEW MOMENTS AGO, THIS IS A REALLY

6659
05:43:11,871 --> 05:43:14,874
IMPORTANT DECISION BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST

6660
05:43:14,874 --> 05:43:17,877
PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT YOU HAVE SUBJECT TO THE

6661
05:43:17,877 --> 05:43:18,878
SECTOR PLAN. AND,

6662
05:43:18,878 --> 05:43:20,880
HOW YOU LOOK AT AND APPLY THE SECTOR

6663
05:43:20,880 --> 05:43:22,880
PLANS RULES AND

6664
05:43:23,883 --> 05:43:26,283
GUIDANCE WILL BE IMPORTANT

6665
05:43:26,886 --> 05:43:27,887
GOING FORWARD.

6666
05:43:27,887 --> 05:43:29,889
I WILL EXPLAIN WHY, AS A MATTER OF

6667
05:43:29,889 --> 05:43:30,890
LAW THE SKETCH PLAN FAILS TO SATISFY THE

6668
05:43:30,890 --> 05:43:32,890
LEGAL

6669
05:43:32,892 --> 05:43:35,895
STANDARDS FOR ROAD ACCESS AND FAILS

6670
05:43:35,895 --> 05:43:38,895
TO SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM WITH THE

6671
05:43:39,899 --> 05:43:41,868
SECTOR PLAN.

6672
05:43:41,868 --> 05:43:42,869
YOU HAVE HEARD EXTENSIVE TESTIMONY

6673
05:43:42,869 --> 05:43:44,869
AND I'M

6674
05:43:44,871 --> 05:43:45,872
SURE WE WILL HEAR MORE AS TO WHY THE

6675
05:43:45,872 --> 05:43:47,872
SKETCH

6676
05:43:47,874 --> 05:43:51,474
PLAN'S FAILURE TO CONFORM WITH THOSE

6677
05:43:51,878 --> 05:43:53,880
TWO STANDARDS RESULTS IN

6678
05:43:53,880 --> 05:43:56,883
THE KIND OF COLOSSAL FAILURE AND OPPOSITION

6679
05:43:56,883 --> 05:43:59,886
YOU ARE RECEIVING FROM THIS COMMUNITY.

6680
05:43:59,886 --> 05:44:00,887
I THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR THE COMMUNITY

6681
05:44:00,887 --> 05:44:02,887
IS NOT OPPOSED

6682
05:44:03,890 --> 05:44:04,891
TO REDEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE.

6683
05:44:04,891 --> 05:44:06,893
WHAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS HOW

6684
05:44:06,893 --> 05:44:07,894
THE REDEVELOPMENT IS BEING

6685
05:44:07,894 --> 05:44:09,896
CARRIED FORWARD. WE THINK THE SKETCH PLAN

6686
05:44:09,896 --> 05:44:11,896
FALLS SO SHORT

6687
05:44:11,898 --> 05:44:13,900
OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS IN THE SECTOR

6688
05:44:13,900 --> 05:44:17,500
PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS THEY SHOULD BE DENIED.

6689
05:44:18,872 --> 05:44:20,874
IF, IN THE ALTERNATIVE

6690
05:44:20,874 --> 05:44:23,910
THE BOARD DOES NOT DENY THE PLAN BUT INSTEAD,

6691
05:44:23,910 --> 05:44:24,911
APPROVES IT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS WE

6692
05:44:24,911 --> 05:44:26,911
ASK THAT

6693
05:44:26,913 --> 05:44:27,914
THE BOARD ADD A NEW CONDITION THAT

6694
05:44:27,914 --> 05:44:29,914
ANY SECTOR

6695
05:44:29,916 --> 05:44:33,920
PLAN AMENDMENT COME BACK TO THE BOARD

6696
05:44:33,920 --> 05:44:36,920
FOR SUBSEQUENT REVIEW AND ANOTHER

6697
05:44:36,923 --> 05:44:38,925
PUBLIC HEARING . WHY IS THAT?

6698
05:44:38,925 --> 05:44:39,926
THAT IS BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD FROM AMY

6699
05:44:39,926 --> 05:44:40,927
LINDSEY ,

6700
05:44:40,927 --> 05:44:42,929
SHE DESCRIBED A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT

6701
05:44:42,929 --> 05:44:44,929
ARE DETERMINED

6702
05:44:45,932 --> 05:44:48,902
WITH ESSENTIAL FINALITY AT THIS STAGE

6703
05:44:48,902 --> 05:44:50,902
. THAT INCLUDES ACCESS

6704
05:44:51,905 --> 05:44:53,907
. IT INCLUDES OPEN SPACE. IT INCLUDES DENSITY.

6705
05:44:53,907 --> 05:44:54,908
ALL OF THOSE THINGS, YOU CAN'T JUST

6706
05:44:54,908 --> 05:44:57,908
TWEAK ONE TO GET TO

6707
05:44:57,911 --> 05:44:58,912
SITE PLAN

6708
05:44:58,912 --> 05:45:00,914
OR PRELIMINARY PLAN. THOSE THINGS 11 DECIDED.

6709
05:45:00,914 --> 05:45:02,914
SO, IT

6710
05:45:03,917 --> 05:45:04,918
IS CRITICAL THAT THE

6711
05:45:04,918 --> 05:45:06,920
TYPES OF CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THAT

6712
05:45:06,920 --> 05:45:09,320
THE REDESIGN COMBAT FOR

6713
05:45:09,923 --> 05:45:12,923
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC REVIEW. AS YOU

6714
05:45:12,926 --> 05:45:15,326
KNOW, THE BOARD NEEDS

6715
05:45:15,929 --> 05:45:16,930
TO MAKE EIGHT FINDINGS IN ORDER TO APPROVE

6716
05:45:16,930 --> 05:45:18,932
THE SKETCH PLAN. I WILL FOCUS ON TWO.

6717
05:45:18,932 --> 05:45:21,901
THE FIRST IS THE SKETCH PLAN MUST

6718
05:45:21,901 --> 05:45:22,902
MEET THE OBJECTIVES

6719
05:45:22,902 --> 05:45:24,904
, GENERAL REQUIREMENTS, AND STANDARDS

6720
05:45:24,904 --> 05:45:25,905
OF THE ZONING CODE.

6721
05:45:25,905 --> 05:45:27,907
THE SECOND IS THAT THE SKETCH PLAN

6722
05:45:27,907 --> 05:45:29,907
MUST SUBSTANTIALLY

6723
05:45:30,910 --> 05:45:32,912
CONFORM WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF

6724
05:45:32,912 --> 05:45:33,913
THE APPLICABLE MASTER PLAN. MASTER

6725
05:45:33,913 --> 05:45:35,913
PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS

6726
05:45:35,915 --> 05:45:36,916
OR GUIDELINES, YES. UNTIL YOU HAVE

6727
05:45:36,916 --> 05:45:38,916
STATUTE

6728
05:45:38,918 --> 05:45:42,922
THAT SAYS THERE HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL

6729
05:45:42,922 --> 05:45:44,924
CONFORMANCE WITH THOSE STANDARDS

6730
05:45:44,924 --> 05:45:45,925
, AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE AT THIS

6731
05:45:45,925 --> 05:45:47,925
STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT.

6732
05:45:47,927 --> 05:45:48,928
WITH RESPECT TO WOODLAND DRIVE, IT

6733
05:45:48,928 --> 05:45:50,928
INCLUDES AN ENTRANCE

6734
05:45:51,931 --> 05:45:52,932
WITH A

6735
05:45:52,932 --> 05:45:53,933
FULL MOVEMENT DRIVEWAY FOR ACCESS TO

6736
05:45:53,933 --> 05:45:54,934
THE RESIDENTIAL GARAGE AND JUST A

6737
05:45:54,934 --> 05:45:56,934
FEW FEET AWAY

6738
05:45:57,904 --> 05:45:59,904
IT INCLUDES ACCESS

6739
05:46:00,907 --> 05:46:03,910
FOR UNLOADING BAY. THIS AXIS VIOLATES

6740
05:46:03,910 --> 05:46:05,910
SECTION 59

6741
05:46:06,913 --> 05:46:09,916
OF THE ZONING CODE WHICH PROHIBITS ACCESS

6742
05:46:09,916 --> 05:46:11,918
FOR THIS PROPERTY TO

6743
05:46:11,918 --> 05:46:15,922
A ROADWAY CLASSIFIED AS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD.

6744
05:46:15,922 --> 05:46:17,922
IN OTHER WORDS ,

6745
05:46:18,925 --> 05:46:19,926
IF THIS ROAD WERE A

6746
05:46:19,926 --> 05:46:21,961
BUSINESS ROAD OR A COMMERCIAL ROAD

6747
05:46:21,961 --> 05:46:23,961
OR

6748
05:46:23,963 --> 05:46:24,964
ANY OTHER CLASSIFICATION THERE WOULD BE

6749
05:46:24,964 --> 05:46:26,964
DISCRETION

6750
05:46:27,967 --> 05:46:29,936
TO ALLOW ACCESS. BUT, IT

6751
05:46:29,936 --> 05:46:33,940
IS PROHIBITED BECAUSE IT IS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD.

6752
05:46:33,940 --> 05:46:36,943
TO APPROVE ACCESS ON WOODLAND DRIVE VIOLATES

6753
05:46:36,943 --> 05:46:39,946
THE ZONING CODE. YOU HAVE A BRAND-NEW

6754
05:46:39,946 --> 05:46:41,946
SECTOR PLAN APPROVED

6755
05:46:41,948 --> 05:46:42,949
IN 2020 THAT GRANTS VERY HIGH DENSITY AND

6756
05:46:42,949 --> 05:46:44,949
IT DOES

6757
05:46:45,952 --> 05:46:48,955
SO KNOWING THAT ACCESS IS NOT

6758
05:46:48,955 --> 05:46:51,355
ALLOWED ON WOODLAND DRIVE.

6759
05:46:51,958 --> 05:46:54,358
THE COUNCIL KNEW THAT

6760
05:46:54,961 --> 05:46:56,963
AT THE TIME THEY APPROVED THIS.

6761
05:46:56,963 --> 05:46:57,964
WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED SIMPLY DOES

6762
05:46:57,964 --> 05:46:59,964
NOT CONFORM

6763
05:46:59,966 --> 05:47:00,967
WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE. NOR

6764
05:47:00,967 --> 05:47:02,967
DOES IT CONFORM

6765
05:47:03,936 --> 05:47:05,936
WITH THE REQUIREMENT

6766
05:47:06,939 --> 05:47:08,941
THAT THE SKETCH PLAN SUBSTANTIALLY CONFORM

6767
05:47:08,941 --> 05:47:09,942
WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE APPLICABLE

6768
05:47:09,942 --> 05:47:12,942
MASTER PLAN. YOU HAVE HEARD

6769
05:47:12,945 --> 05:47:13,946
THAT THERE ARE 10

6770
05:47:13,946 --> 05:47:16,946
OR A DOZEN DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS.

6771
05:47:20,953 --> 05:47:21,954
IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE AFFORDABLE

6772
05:47:21,954 --> 05:47:22,955
HOUSING COMPONENTS. I ASK

6773
05:47:22,955 --> 05:47:23,956
YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS,

6774
05:47:23,956 --> 05:47:24,957
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SHOULD YOU

6775
05:47:24,957 --> 05:47:27,357
DECIDE TO APPROVE SUBJECT

6776
05:47:27,960 --> 05:47:30,963
TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. THERE NEEDS TO

6777
05:47:30,963 --> 05:47:31,964
BE AN INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT

6778
05:47:31,964 --> 05:47:33,966
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHETHER

6779
05:47:33,966 --> 05:47:36,936
OR NOT THOSE UNITS COMPLY WITH THE

6780
05:47:36,936 --> 05:47:39,936
AREA MEDIAN INCOME. THERE NEEDS

6781
05:47:39,939 --> 05:47:40,940
TO BE A PROHIBITION , A CONDITION THAT

6782
05:47:40,940 --> 05:47:42,942
PROHIBITS ACCESS ON WOODLAND DRIVE

6783
05:47:42,942 --> 05:47:44,942
, EXCESS

6784
05:47:54,954 --> 05:47:56,954
TRAFFIC WILL

6785
05:47:57,957 --> 05:48:00,957
BE THE RESULT WITH WHAT

6786
05:48:00,960 --> 05:48:02,960
IS PROPOSED.

6787
05:48:03,963 --> 05:48:05,965
IT IS ALREADY CONSTRAINED. I SUBMIT TO

6788
05:48:05,965 --> 05:48:10,765
YOU THAT AS A MATTER OF LAW, THIS

6789
05:48:12,939 --> 05:48:13,940
SECTOR PLAN IS NOT IN A POSITION TO

6790
05:48:13,940 --> 05:48:15,942
BE APPROVED. WE ASK THAT YOU DENY

6791
05:48:15,942 --> 05:48:18,945
IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. JOSEPH

6792
05:48:18,945 --> 05:48:20,945
SUTTON? >>

6793
05:48:21,981 --> 05:48:24,984
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOE SUTTON

6794
05:48:24,984 --> 05:48:25,985
AND I REPRESENT THE

6795
05:48:25,985 --> 05:48:27,987
OWNERS OF THE FOREST GLEN MEDICAL

6796
05:48:27,987 --> 05:48:29,989
CENTER. I WANT TO THANK

6797
05:48:29,989 --> 05:48:30,990
THE PLANNING STAFF, PARTICULARLY ROBERT

6798
05:48:30,990 --> 05:48:32,990
,

6799
05:48:33,993 --> 05:48:35,993
KERRY SANDERS ,

6800
05:48:36,996 --> 05:48:39,999
AMY LINDSEY, MATT AND OTHERS WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY

6801
05:48:39,999 --> 05:48:41,999
TO HELP US .

6802
05:48:42,969 --> 05:48:45,972
THIS IS A TOUGH SITE. I ALSO WANT

6803
05:48:45,972 --> 05:48:48,972
TO THANK FORMER VICE CHAIR

6804
05:48:48,975 --> 05:48:51,375
FOR HIS INCREDIBLE EFFORTS

6805
05:48:51,978 --> 05:48:54,981
WITH THE FRIENDS OF FOREST GLEN. THEY HAVE BEEN KEY

6806
05:48:54,981 --> 05:48:57,984
CONTRIBUTORS TO ADVANCING THIS PROJECT. I

6807
05:48:57,984 --> 05:48:59,986
GREW UP IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND MY CHILDREN

6808
05:48:59,986 --> 05:49:00,987
WERE BOTH BORN AT HOLY CROSS. THEY WENT

6809
05:49:00,987 --> 05:49:02,987
TO

6810
05:49:02,989 --> 05:49:03,990
SCHOOL HERE AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF

6811
05:49:03,990 --> 05:49:05,990
THE COMMUNITY FOR

6812
05:49:05,992 --> 05:49:06,993
SEVERAL DECADES. WHEN THE COMMUNITY

6813
05:49:06,993 --> 05:49:08,993
FIRST

6814
05:49:09,996 --> 05:49:12,396
APPROACHED US BACK IN 2016

6815
05:49:12,965 --> 05:49:15,935
TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE WE

6816
05:49:15,935 --> 05:49:16,936
DIDN'T HAVE TREMENDOUS OPTIMISM. THERE WERE A LOT OF

6817
05:49:16,936 --> 05:49:18,938
THINGS THAT WERE OUTSTANDING THAT NEEDED

6818
05:49:18,938 --> 05:49:20,938
TO BE RESOLVED.

6819
05:49:21,941 --> 05:49:23,941
BUT

6820
05:49:27,947 --> 05:49:29,947
AFTER

6821
05:49:30,950 --> 05:49:34,954
THE FRIENDS OF THE FOREST PLAN ABLE

6822
05:49:34,954 --> 05:49:35,955
TO LOOK AT THE FINANCING

6823
05:49:35,955 --> 05:49:37,957
FOR THE TUNNEL, WHICH WAS A BIG DEAL

6824
05:49:37,957 --> 05:49:39,957
AT THAT TIME ,

6825
05:49:39,959 --> 05:49:41,961
THAT OFFERED SAFE PASSAGE FOR FOLKS THAT

6826
05:49:41,961 --> 05:49:43,963
WERE COMING OVER TO THE MEDICAL BUILDING

6827
05:49:43,963 --> 05:49:45,963
FROM THE METRO

6828
05:49:46,966 --> 05:49:48,966
,

6829
05:49:52,939 --> 05:49:55,942
THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE TO FOREST GLEN

6830
05:49:55,942 --> 05:49:56,943
MEDICAL CENTER.

6831
05:49:56,943 --> 05:49:58,945
AFTER THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATED SO HARD

6832
05:49:58,945 --> 05:50:00,947
FOR THE NEW SECTOR PLAN AND

6833
05:50:00,947 --> 05:50:01,948
THE INCREASED DENSITY , FOR THE FIRST

6834
05:50:01,948 --> 05:50:03,948
TIME

6835
05:50:03,950 --> 05:50:08,750
IT MADE DOING SOMETHING WITH THE SITE POSSIBLE.

6836
05:50:08,955 --> 05:50:10,957
IT HAS BEEN A LONG HAUL TO GET HERE TODAY

6837
05:50:10,957 --> 05:50:13,957
WITH ALL THE MOVING PARTS

6838
05:50:13,960 --> 05:50:15,960
WITH THIS SITE.

6839
05:50:16,963 --> 05:50:19,363
AFTER TALKING OVER THE

6840
05:50:19,999 --> 05:50:21,000
SPAN OF FIVE YEARS TO

6841
05:50:21,000 --> 05:50:22,969
PROBABLY, 50 OR 60 DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, IT

6842
05:50:22,969 --> 05:50:25,972
IS TOUGH TO FIND A DEVELOPER

6843
05:50:25,972 --> 05:50:26,973
TO

6844
05:50:26,973 --> 05:50:28,975
TAKE ON A SITE LIKE THIS. THERE ARE

6845
05:50:28,975 --> 05:50:29,976
JUST TOO MANY MOVING PARTS.

6846
05:50:29,976 --> 05:50:31,978
ACCESS, TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THESE THINGS

6847
05:50:31,978 --> 05:50:34,978
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, TODAY

6848
05:50:40,987 --> 05:50:42,989
SHOCKED ME BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH

6849
05:50:42,989 --> 05:50:45,992
AN INCREDIBLE BACKING FROM THE COMMUNITY

6850
05:50:45,992 --> 05:50:49,996
TO GET THIS SITE OFF THE GROUND. OUR OWNERSHIP

6851
05:50:49,996 --> 05:50:51,996
IS DOCTORS. PROBABLY

6852
05:50:51,998 --> 05:50:55,100
, A LOT OF THEIR PATIENTS ARE IN THE

6853
05:50:55,100 --> 05:50:58,971
BACK AND THEY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY

6854
05:50:58,971 --> 05:50:59,972
. THEY WILL LISTEN CAREFULLY ABOUT

6855
05:50:59,972 --> 05:51:01,974
WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED. WE ARE

6856
05:51:01,974 --> 05:51:04,974
VERY PROUD TO BE OFFERING

6857
05:51:04,977 --> 05:51:06,977
ADDITIONAL HOUSING ALTERNATIVES

6858
05:51:07,980 --> 05:51:10,380
, UP TO 60 AFFORDABLE UNITS.

6859
05:51:10,983 --> 05:51:13,383
OF COURSE, SOME RETAIL

6860
05:51:13,986 --> 05:51:14,987
THAT WILL FIND

6861
05:51:14,987 --> 05:51:15,988
FOLKS A DECENT CUP OF COFFEE AS THEY

6862
05:51:15,988 --> 05:51:16,989
GO ON TO THE METRO IN THE MORNING. THE

6863
05:51:16,989 --> 05:51:17,990
BUILDING

6864
05:51:17,990 --> 05:51:19,992
IS OVER 50 YEARS OLD AND CERTAINLY,

6865
05:51:19,992 --> 05:51:21,994
NOT THE MOST AESTHETICALLY

6866
05:51:21,994 --> 05:51:22,995
APPEALING GATEWAY TO HOLY CROSS HOSPITAL.

6867
05:51:22,995 --> 05:51:24,995
WHAT YOU SEE

6868
05:51:25,998 --> 05:51:28,000
BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A PRODUCT OF

6869
05:51:28,000 --> 05:51:28,968
SEVERAL YEARS OF HARD WORK , INCLUDING

6870
05:51:28,968 --> 05:51:30,968
COUNTLESS MEETINGS

6871
05:51:30,970 --> 05:51:34,570
WITH THE COMMUNITY , THE PLANNING BOARD

6872
05:51:34,974 --> 05:51:35,975
DURING THE SECTOR PLAN

6873
05:51:35,975 --> 05:51:37,977
REVIEW AND FINALLY, THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

6874
05:51:37,977 --> 05:51:39,977
>>

6875
05:51:39,979 --> 05:51:40,980
IF YOU COULD WRAP UP, PLEASE. >> OUR PARTNER HAS

6876
05:51:40,980 --> 05:51:42,980
WORKED HUNDREDS OF

6877
05:51:43,983 --> 05:51:46,986
HOURS REVISING THE PLAN TO CONFORM

6878
05:51:46,986 --> 05:51:48,986
TO THE STAFF

6879
05:51:49,989 --> 05:51:52,992
REPORT AND TO MAINTAIN FEASIBILITY, WHICH

6880
05:51:52,992 --> 05:51:53,993
HAS

6881
05:51:53,993 --> 05:51:55,995
ALWAYS BEEN OUR CHALLENGE. >> THANK YOU

6882
05:51:55,995 --> 05:51:56,996
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. >>

6883
05:51:56,996 --> 05:51:58,998
WE ARE HOPEFUL FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

6884
05:51:58,998 --> 05:52:01,000
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

6885
05:52:01,000 --> 05:52:02,100
TODAY AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD

6886
05:52:02,100 --> 05:52:03,970
WORK OF THE TEAM

6887
05:52:03,970 --> 05:52:04,971
THAT HAS HELPED US GET THIS FAR. >>

6888
05:52:04,971 --> 05:52:06,971
THANK YOU.

6889
05:52:07,974 --> 05:52:09,976
THAT IS THE LAST OF THE IN-HOUSE

6890
05:52:09,976 --> 05:52:12,979
SPEAKERS. WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE ON TEAMS

6891
05:52:12,979 --> 05:52:13,980
, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO

6892
05:52:13,980 --> 05:52:15,980
TAKE A

6893
05:52:16,983 --> 05:52:18,983
FOUR-MINUTE BREAK. OKAY?

6894
05:52:20,190 --> 05:52:23,190
FOUR MINUTES. MARK THE CLOCK.

6895
05:58:39,980 --> 05:58:41,980
>>>

6896
05:58:42,101 --> 05:58:44,501
ALL RIGHT , THIS IS

6897
05:58:45,700 --> 05:58:46,710
MARCH 30,

6898
05:58:46,710 --> 05:58:48,730
2023, SESSION OF THE PLANNING BOARD. WE

6899
05:58:48,730 --> 05:58:50,730
ARE STILL

6900
05:58:51,760 --> 05:58:53,760
DEALING WITH

6901
05:58:54,790 --> 05:58:56,790
9801 GEORGIA AVENUE

6902
05:58:57,820 --> 05:58:59,820
.

6903
05:59:00,850 --> 05:59:02,485
WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS

6904
05:59:03,880 --> 05:59:06,910
ON TEAMS THAT WOULD LIKE TO

6905
05:59:06,910 --> 05:59:09,910
BE HEARD. THE FIRST IS

6906
05:59:09,940 --> 05:59:11,940
LISA MONROE .

6907
05:59:12,970 --> 05:59:15,970
>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU

6908
05:59:15,100 --> 05:59:17,690
VERY MUCH.

6909
05:59:17,690 --> 05:59:18,700
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> YES, YOU

6910
05:59:18,700 --> 05:59:19,710
HAVE THREE MINUTES.

6911
05:59:19,710 --> 05:59:21,730
>> THERE WAS A DEFINITE FAILURE MADE

6912
05:59:21,730 --> 05:59:23,473
IN COMMUNITY WITH THE

6913
05:59:24,760 --> 05:59:26,760
FOREST GLEN NEIGHBORHOOD

6914
05:59:26,780 --> 05:59:29,678
WITH THE ZONING CHANGES MADE IN 2020.

6915
05:59:30,820 --> 05:59:32,840
I THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DO BETTER

6916
05:59:32,840 --> 05:59:36,880
, BUT THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT ANY

6917
05:59:36,880 --> 05:59:37,890
OF THE PEOPLE

6918
05:59:37,890 --> 05:59:39,910
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AS YOU HAVE SEEN WOULD TAKE

6919
05:59:39,910 --> 05:59:40,920
LIGHTLY. I EVEN MADE VISITS TO

6920
05:59:40,920 --> 05:59:42,940
PARK AND PLANNING WHEN WE MOVED HERE

6921
05:59:42,940 --> 05:59:45,940
IN 2021 AND WE WERE RESEARCHING

6922
05:59:48,100 --> 05:59:49,101
WHERE WE WOULD CHOOSE TO LIVE

6923
05:59:49,101 --> 05:59:50,680
AND RAISE OUR FAMILY. I FEEL WE HAVE

6924
05:59:50,680 --> 05:59:51,690
BEEN A BIT MANIPULATED AND WANT YOU

6925
05:59:51,690 --> 05:59:52,700
TO FULLY

6926
05:59:52,700 --> 05:59:54,730
UNDERSTAND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AS YOU HAVE

6927
05:59:54,730 --> 05:59:56,750
SEEN IS NOT FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS SKETCH

6928
05:59:56,750 --> 05:59:57,760
PLAN AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND

6929
05:59:57,760 --> 05:59:59,476
SLIGHTLY MODIFIED. THE LACK

6930
06:00:00,790 --> 06:00:03,790
OF TRAFFIC STUDIES, ALONE ARE

6931
06:00:03,810 --> 06:00:05,810
RESPONSIBLE

6932
06:00:06,840 --> 06:00:08,860
. IT IS ALREADY OVERWHELMING

6933
06:00:08,860 --> 06:00:09,870
AT THAT INTERSECTION THROUGH THE ENTIRE RUSH-HOUR

6934
06:00:09,870 --> 06:00:11,870
FROM

6935
06:00:12,910 --> 06:00:13,125
BELTWAY TRAFFIC AND SHIFT

6936
06:00:13,125 --> 06:00:15,127
CHANGES FROM HOLY CROSS HOSPITAL PEOPLE

6937
06:00:15,127 --> 06:00:17,129
TRYING TO GET TO WORK.

6938
06:00:17,129 --> 06:00:18,130
THERE BEEN MANY TIMES WHEN IT HAS TAKEN

6939
06:00:18,130 --> 06:00:20,132
ME OVER 20 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF

6940
06:00:20,132 --> 06:00:21,133
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOING NORTH OR SOUTH BOUND

6941
06:00:21,133 --> 06:00:23,133
, DEPENDING

6942
06:00:24,102 --> 06:00:27,102
ON THE HOUR OF THE

6943
06:00:27,105 --> 06:00:30,109
RUSH FROM THE EAST SIDE OF FOREST

6944
06:00:30,109 --> 06:00:32,109
GLEN ROAD.

6945
06:00:38,116 --> 06:00:39,117
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN BE SAFE OR RESPONSIBLE

6946
06:00:39,117 --> 06:00:40,118
TO ADD 500 OR MORE CARS

6947
06:00:40,118 --> 06:00:41,119
TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA, LET ALONE ON

6948
06:00:41,119 --> 06:00:42,120
WOODLAND DRIVE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS

6949
06:00:42,120 --> 06:00:44,520
CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS LEVEL

6950
06:00:45,123 --> 06:00:46,124
OF CONGESTION OR BE SAFE

6951
06:00:46,124 --> 06:00:48,127
FOR PEDESTRIANS GETTING TO THE METRO

6952
06:00:48,127 --> 06:00:49,128
OR OTHERWISE. I AM DISAPPOINTED BY

6953
06:00:49,128 --> 06:00:51,130
THE LACK OF COMMON SENSE IN CONDUCTING

6954
06:00:51,130 --> 06:00:53,130
COMMON SENSE

6955
06:00:53,132 --> 06:00:54,132
TRAFFIC STUDIES BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION

6956
06:00:54,132 --> 06:00:57,102
WHEN TIME SPENT IN TRAFFIC

6957
06:00:57,102 --> 06:00:58,103
PLAY SUCH A MAJOR PART IN THE WELL-BEING OF OUR

6958
06:00:58,103 --> 06:01:00,105
COMMUNITY AND COUNTY AS A WHOLE. I

6959
06:01:00,105 --> 06:01:02,107
CANNOT BELIEVE THERE IS NOT A

6960
06:01:02,107 --> 06:01:03,108
STUDY ALSO , TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL

6961
06:01:03,108 --> 06:01:04,109
HAPPEN TO

6962
06:01:04,109 --> 06:01:06,111
THE SCHOOLS THIS BUILDING WILL INCLUDE

6963
06:01:06,111 --> 06:01:07,112
IN THEIR BOUNDARIES.

6964
06:01:07,112 --> 06:01:09,114
THEY ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO HAVE

6965
06:01:09,114 --> 06:01:11,114
ENOUGH SPACES

6966
06:01:12,117 --> 06:01:14,117
.

6967
06:01:14,119 --> 06:01:15,120
THE LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THE

6968
06:01:15,120 --> 06:01:17,120
COUNTY IS TAKING

6969
06:01:18,123 --> 06:01:20,123
ON GROWING

6970
06:01:23,128 --> 06:01:24,129
AND UNDERSTANDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS

6971
06:01:24,129 --> 06:01:25,130
OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE SERVING

6972
06:01:25,130 --> 06:01:27,132
IS APPALLING. IF THE COUNTY CARES

6973
06:01:27,132 --> 06:01:30,102
THEY NEED TO RETHINK WHAT

6974
06:01:30,102 --> 06:01:32,102
GROWTH REQUIRES

6975
06:01:33,105 --> 06:01:35,105
ADDED SERVICES

6976
06:01:39,111 --> 06:01:40,112
IN AND ALREADY OVERCROWDED AREA IN

6977
06:01:40,112 --> 06:01:42,114
OUR SCHOOLING. IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR

6978
06:01:42,114 --> 06:01:43,115
FAMILIES OR NEIGHBORS OR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS OR FACULTY OR TEACHERS. THESE

6979
06:01:43,115 --> 06:01:44,116
TWO THINGS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT

6980
06:01:44,116 --> 06:01:45,117
THINGS FOR ME AND HAVE AN INCREDIBLY

6981
06:01:45,117 --> 06:01:47,117
NEGATIVE IMPACT

6982
06:01:49,121 --> 06:01:51,123
ON THE SAFETY EVER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE

6983
06:01:51,123 --> 06:01:55,923
QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTY

6984
06:02:00,132 --> 06:02:01,133
, AS A WHOLE. I WOULD

6985
06:02:01,133 --> 06:02:02,134
LIKE TO ASK THAT WE BE RESPONSIBLE AND

6986
06:02:02,134 --> 06:02:03,101
MAKE COMMON SENSE, WELL-INFORMED DECISION FOR

6987
06:02:03,101 --> 06:02:05,103
THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST

6988
06:02:05,103 --> 06:02:06,104
THE MONETARY BENEFIT OF A FEW. WE

6989
06:02:06,104 --> 06:02:09,107
HAVE TO DO BETTER IN MAKING DECISIONS.

6990
06:02:09,107 --> 06:02:11,107
THANK

6991
06:02:11,109 --> 06:02:12,144
YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY. I

6992
06:02:12,144 --> 06:02:14,146
AM SORRY I COULD NOT BE THERE IN PERSON AS I'M

6993
06:02:14,146 --> 06:02:15,147
EN ROUTE TO THE AIRPORT FOR SPRING BREAK

6994
06:02:15,147 --> 06:02:17,149
TO GET MY COLLEGE

6995
06:02:17,149 --> 06:02:18,150
SENIORS TO VISIT SCHOOLS. THANK YOU FOR

6996
06:02:18,150 --> 06:02:21,150
YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR

6997
06:02:21,153 --> 06:02:23,153
YOUR EXCELLENTLY

6998
06:02:24,156 --> 06:02:26,156
TIME TESTIMONY. ANDREW? >>

6999
06:02:27,159 --> 06:02:29,159
THANK YOU.

7000
06:02:30,162 --> 06:02:33,162
I HAVE SEVERAL POINTS I

7001
06:02:33,165 --> 06:02:35,565
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.

7002
06:02:47,145 --> 06:02:48,146
APOLOGIES FOR SPEAKING QUICKLY. MY WIFE

7003
06:02:48,146 --> 06:02:49,147
AND I LIVED UP THE STREET FROM THE

7004
06:02:49,147 --> 06:02:50,148
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND WE WILL BE DIRECTLY

7005
06:02:50,148 --> 06:02:52,150
AFFECTED BY IT IN THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC

7006
06:02:52,150 --> 06:02:53,151
PROBLEMS IT WILL CREATE. I ASKED THE PLANNING BOARD DENIED THE

7007
06:02:53,151 --> 06:02:54,152
SKETCH PLAN APPLICATION AND TO DISAGREE WITH THE

7008
06:02:54,152 --> 06:02:55,153
TESTIMONY OF THE BOARD HEARD FROM

7009
06:02:55,153 --> 06:02:58,156
AMY AT THE BEGINNING REGARDING KNOWLEDGE

7010
06:02:58,156 --> 06:03:00,156
OF SIGNAGE.

7011
06:03:05,163 --> 06:03:07,165
THERE SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOTICE

7012
06:03:07,165 --> 06:03:09,167
FOR COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY

7013
06:03:09,167 --> 06:03:10,135
ANY APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION MUST

7014
06:03:10,135 --> 06:03:11,136
POST

7015
06:03:11,136 --> 06:03:13,138
A SIGN ADVERTISING THE PRE-SUBMITTAL

7016
06:03:13,138 --> 06:03:15,138
MEETING

7017
06:03:16,141 --> 06:03:17,142
EQUIVALENT TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR

7018
06:03:17,142 --> 06:03:19,144
AN APPLICATION SITE A MINIMUM OF 15

7019
06:03:19,144 --> 06:03:21,544
DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING.

7020
06:03:22,147 --> 06:03:23,148
SECTION 59 MANDATES THAT

7021
06:03:23,148 --> 06:03:25,150
THE SIGN MUST MEET THE FOLLOWING SPECIFICATIONS. THE

7022
06:03:25,150 --> 06:03:27,150
SKETCH PLAN

7023
06:03:27,152 --> 06:03:28,153
MUST USE THE SIGN TEMPLATE PROVIDED BY

7024
06:03:28,153 --> 06:03:30,153
THE

7025
06:03:31,156 --> 06:03:33,156
PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE

7026
06:03:33,158 --> 06:03:34,159
PROCEDURES TEMPLATE PROVIDED BY THE

7027
06:03:34,159 --> 06:03:36,159
PLANNING

7028
06:03:37,162 --> 06:03:39,164
DEPARTMENT REQUIRES THE SKETCH

7029
06:03:39,164 --> 06:03:42,764
PLAN SIZE BE 36 INCHES BY 48 INCHES

7030
06:03:43,135 --> 06:03:44,136
AND

7031
06:03:44,136 --> 06:03:45,137
THAT THE BOTTOM OF THE SIGN MUST NOT BE

7032
06:03:45,137 --> 06:03:46,138
LESS THAN THREE FEET TO THE GROUND.

7033
06:03:46,138 --> 06:03:49,141
CONTRAST THIS WITH THE LESSER REQUIREMENT OF

7034
06:03:49,141 --> 06:03:51,141
SECTION 59 WHICH PROVIDES

7035
06:03:52,144 --> 06:03:55,147
THAT FOR A LOCAL MAP AMENDMENT

7036
06:03:55,147 --> 06:03:56,148
AND CONDITIONAL USE

7037
06:03:56,148 --> 06:03:58,150
THE SIGN MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 24 INCHES

7038
06:03:58,150 --> 06:04:00,550
TALL BY 36 INCHES WIDE.

7039
06:04:01,153 --> 06:04:02,154
THE APPLICANT WRONGFULLY CONFORM

7040
06:04:02,154 --> 06:04:05,154
TO THE LESSER NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

7041
06:04:06,158 --> 06:04:09,161
THE APPLICANT POSTED THESE REPORTED PRE-SUBMITTAL

7042
06:04:09,161 --> 06:04:10,162
NOTICE SIGNS ONLY APPROXIMATELY 30

7043
06:04:10,162 --> 06:04:12,162
BY 42 INCHES

7044
06:04:12,197 --> 06:04:15,797
IN SIZE AND ROUGHLY 25 INCHES FROM

7045
06:04:16,201 --> 06:04:17,169
THE GROUND.

7046
06:04:17,169 --> 06:04:19,171
THIS IS ABOUT ONE THIRD SMALLER AND LOWER

7047
06:04:19,171 --> 06:04:20,172
THAN REQUIRED BY THE LAW, WHICH

7048
06:04:20,172 --> 06:04:21,173
IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE OF THAT

7049
06:04:21,173 --> 06:04:24,176
HUGE DIFFERENCE IN SIZE AND POSTING HEIGHT

7050
06:04:24,176 --> 06:04:27,179
, RESIDENTS LIKE ME WHO ROUTINELY PASS

7051
06:04:27,179 --> 06:04:28,180
THE SITE DID NOT RECEIVE PROPER NOTICE AND

7052
06:04:28,180 --> 06:04:30,182
DID NOT ATTEND THE

7053
06:04:30,182 --> 06:04:31,183
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETINGS SINCE WE ASSUMED THE

7054
06:04:31,183 --> 06:04:32,184
POSTING

7055
06:04:32,184 --> 06:04:34,186
WAS SOMETHING OTHER THAN A SKETCH PLAN.

7056
06:04:34,186 --> 06:04:36,188
THESE SKETCH PLANS HAVE

7057
06:04:36,188 --> 06:04:37,189
A GREAT IMPACT. HAD A RECEIPT PROPER

7058
06:04:37,189 --> 06:04:40,189
NOTICE I WOULD'VE ATTENDED THE

7059
06:04:40,192 --> 06:04:42,194
PRIEST THE MIDDLE BEATING

7060
06:04:42,194 --> 06:04:43,195
. THE LACK OF PROPER NOTICE HAS CASCADING EFFECTS,

7061
06:04:43,195 --> 06:04:45,195
INCLUDING ME

7062
06:04:45,197 --> 06:04:46,198
NOT BEING ON THE SKETCH PLAN NOTIFICATION

7063
06:04:46,198 --> 06:04:48,198
AND NOT HAVING

7064
06:04:48,200 --> 06:04:52,170
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD BY THE DEVELOPER.

7065
06:04:52,170 --> 06:04:53,171
IN

7066
06:04:53,171 --> 06:04:54,172
SHORT, MY VOICE WAS NOT HEARD AS IT SHOULD'VE

7067
06:04:54,172 --> 06:04:55,173
BEEN UNDER THE LAW IF THE APPLICANT

7068
06:04:55,173 --> 06:04:56,174
HAD FOLLOWED THE

7069
06:04:56,174 --> 06:04:58,176
PROPERLY LEGALLY REQUIRED NOTIFICATION

7070
06:04:58,176 --> 06:05:00,178
REQUIREMENTS. THE BOARD CANNOT WAIVE

7071
06:05:00,178 --> 06:05:03,178
THE APPLICANT'S CRITICAL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

7072
06:05:04,182 --> 06:05:06,184
THE LAW IS CLEAR. NOTICE IS REQUIRED FOR EACH APPLICATION

7073
06:05:06,184 --> 06:05:07,185
AND THEY MUST POST THE SIGN IN ACCORDANCE

7074
06:05:07,185 --> 06:05:09,185
WITH

7075
06:05:10,188 --> 06:05:11,189
THE LAW

7076
06:05:11,189 --> 06:05:12,190
. THE APPLICANT FILED THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS

7077
06:05:12,190 --> 06:05:13,191
FOR THE WRONG TYPE OF APPLICATION.

7078
06:05:13,191 --> 06:05:15,191
THIS

7079
06:05:15,193 --> 06:05:16,194
HAS HAD EFFECTS ON OUR COMMUNITIES

7080
06:05:16,194 --> 06:05:18,194
DUE PROCESS AND

7081
06:05:18,196 --> 06:05:22,200
THE RIGHTS. THE LAW IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY

7082
06:05:22,200 --> 06:05:24,200
POSTS

7083
06:05:25,170 --> 06:05:28,170
MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IMPACT

7084
06:05:28,173 --> 06:05:30,175
IS SO MUCH GREATER.

7085
06:05:30,175 --> 06:05:31,176
THIS IS TRUE WHEN THE APPLICANT WAS INFORMED

7086
06:05:31,176 --> 06:05:33,176
OF THE ERROR

7087
06:05:36,181 --> 06:05:37,182
AND WAS INFORMED THAT RESIDENTS, SUCH

7088
06:05:37,182 --> 06:05:40,185
AS MYSELF AND OTHERS MIGHT HAVE

7089
06:05:40,185 --> 06:05:43,188
INTENDED TO GO TO THE MEETING

7090
06:05:43,188 --> 06:05:44,189
. THIS MEANS THE DEVELOPER

7091
06:05:44,189 --> 06:05:46,191
KNOWINGLY MAINTAINED A FALSE CERTIFICATION IN

7092
06:05:46,191 --> 06:05:48,191
ITS APPLICATION

7093
06:05:49,194 --> 06:05:51,196
AND THAT IT COMPLIED WITH THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS

7094
06:05:51,196 --> 06:05:52,197
FOR THE SKETCH PLANS. THAT IS INEXCUSABLE.

7095
06:05:52,197 --> 06:05:53,198
FOR

7096
06:05:53,198 --> 06:05:55,200
THESE REASONS I REQUEST THIS APPLICATION

7097
06:05:55,200 --> 06:05:57,600
BE DENIED WITH PREJUDICE.

7098
06:05:58,170 --> 06:06:01,170
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

7099
06:06:04,176 --> 06:06:07,179
NEXT PLEASE. >> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?

7100
06:06:07,179 --> 06:06:09,179
>> YES. >> PERFECT.

7101
06:06:10,215 --> 06:06:12,217
I HAVE LIVED IN FOREST GROVE FOR

7102
06:06:12,217 --> 06:06:13,218
OVER 10 YEARS. I AM THE MOTHER OF THREE

7103
06:06:13,218 --> 06:06:15,218
YOUNG

7104
06:06:15,220 --> 06:06:18,223
CHILDREN, WHICH IS WHY I WAS PLEASED

7105
06:06:18,223 --> 06:06:19,224
TO SEE THAT THE SECTOR PLAN CALLED

7106
06:06:19,224 --> 06:06:21,226
FOR A DAY CARE

7107
06:06:21,226 --> 06:06:22,227
CENTER AND THEY WERE SPEAKING ABOUT

7108
06:06:22,227 --> 06:06:24,229
REDEVELOPING THIS SITE. FINDING

7109
06:06:24,229 --> 06:06:25,230
DAY CARE, ESPECIALLY IN MONTGOMERY

7110
06:06:25,230 --> 06:06:27,230
COUNTY IS

7111
06:06:27,232 --> 06:06:28,233
ESPECIALLY HARD. MY CHILDREN WERE ON

7112
06:06:28,233 --> 06:06:30,233
WAIT LISTS BEFORE

7113
06:06:31,203 --> 06:06:34,206
THEY WERE EVEN BORN. EVEN THEN

7114
06:06:34,206 --> 06:06:36,206
,

7115
06:06:36,208 --> 06:06:37,209
I WAS TOLD IT WAS TOO LATE TO ACCOMMODATE

7116
06:06:37,209 --> 06:06:39,211
THEM. ASK ANY PARENT AROUND HERE AND I GUARANTEE

7117
06:06:39,211 --> 06:06:43,215
THEY WILL SAY THEY HAVE BEEN ON WAIT LISTS

7118
06:06:43,215 --> 06:06:44,216
FOR YEARS. A DAY CARE CENTER AT THIS

7119
06:06:44,216 --> 06:06:46,218
SITE WOULD'VE BEEN A HUGE ASSET TO

7120
06:06:46,218 --> 06:06:48,218
THE COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY,

7121
06:06:48,220 --> 06:06:49,221
JLB SAID NO TO THE DAY CARE. WHY?

7122
06:06:49,221 --> 06:06:50,222
THEY SAID THERE IS NOT

7123
06:06:50,222 --> 06:06:52,224
ENOUGH OUTDOOR SPACE AND THE TRAFFIC

7124
06:06:52,224 --> 06:06:55,227
PATTERN IN THEIR GARAGE MAKES DROP-OFF

7125
06:06:55,227 --> 06:06:57,227
AND PICKUP

7126
06:06:57,229 --> 06:06:58,230
IMPRACTICAL. THESE ARE CHOICES THAT

7127
06:06:58,230 --> 06:07:00,630
JLB MADE. THEY HAVE

7128
06:07:01,233 --> 06:07:03,233
FOUR

7129
06:07:03,235 --> 06:07:04,202
ACRES OF LAND AND CAN'T FIND ANY OUTDOOR

7130
06:07:04,202 --> 06:07:05,203
SPACE FOR A DAY CARE? THEIR PLANS CALL FOR A

7131
06:07:05,203 --> 06:07:07,205
PRIVATE COURTYARD FOR BUILDING RESIDENTS. MAYBE,

7132
06:07:07,205 --> 06:07:09,205
THE DAY CARE

7133
06:07:13,211 --> 06:07:14,212
COULD SHARE THAT. THEY HAVEN'T DONE TRAFFIC

7134
06:07:14,212 --> 06:07:15,213
STUDY, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY CAN ASSUME

7135
06:07:15,213 --> 06:07:16,214
ANYTHING ABOUT ANY TRAFFIC PATTERNS ANYWHERE.

7136
06:07:16,214 --> 06:07:18,214
THIS IS

7137
06:07:19,217 --> 06:07:21,217
YET, ANOTHER

7138
06:07:21,219 --> 06:07:22,220
NO FROM JLB AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF

7139
06:07:22,220 --> 06:07:23,221
THE REFUSAL TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES LAID OUT BY

7140
06:07:23,221 --> 06:07:25,223
THE COUNTY. WHITE DO THEY CONTINUE

7141
06:07:25,223 --> 06:07:28,226
TO DISREGARD THE SECTOR PLAN? BECAUSE THE

7142
06:07:28,226 --> 06:07:30,626
PLANS IT LAYS OUT

7143
06:07:31,229 --> 06:07:33,198
ARE NOT AS PROFITABLE FOR THEM AND IN THE END, PROFIT

7144
06:07:33,198 --> 06:07:34,199
IS THE BOTTOM LINE. FOR THESE REASONS

7145
06:07:34,199 --> 06:07:37,168
AND THE OTHERS LAID OUT TODAY, YOU SHOULD

7146
06:07:37,168 --> 06:07:39,568
DENY JLB SKETCH PLAN

7147
06:07:40,171 --> 06:07:42,171
. THE COUNTY NEEDS

7148
06:07:43,174 --> 06:07:45,174
TO HOLD

7149
06:07:49,180 --> 06:07:50,181
JLB ACCOUNTABLE FOR STICKING TO

7150
06:07:50,181 --> 06:07:52,183
THE SECTOR PLAN, WHICH WAS PUT IN

7151
06:07:52,183 --> 06:07:53,184
PLACE FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. I WOULD HATE TO THINK

7152
06:07:53,184 --> 06:07:54,185
WE ARE SACRIFICING AN OPPORTUNITY

7153
06:07:54,185 --> 06:07:55,186
FOR SMART AND THOUGHTFUL GROWTH THAT

7154
06:07:55,186 --> 06:07:57,188
WOULD BENEFIT BOTH FUTURE AND

7155
06:07:57,188 --> 06:07:58,189
CURRENT RESIDENCE WHO WANT THE CHANCE

7156
06:07:58,189 --> 06:08:01,192
TO HAVE CONVENIENT LATTES. THANK YOU.

7157
06:08:01,192 --> 06:08:04,192
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

7158
06:08:04,195 --> 06:08:06,195
NEXT PLEASE. >>

7159
06:08:10,201 --> 06:08:12,201
HELLO.

7160
06:08:13,204 --> 06:08:15,204
I LIVE

7161
06:08:15,206 --> 06:08:16,207
ABOUT ONE HALF MILE FROM THE PROPOSED

7162
06:08:16,207 --> 06:08:18,207
PROJECT

7163
06:08:19,210 --> 06:08:22,810
AND I AM ON BELVEDERE BOULEVARD.

7164
06:08:24,215 --> 06:08:25,216
I WANT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG ENTHUSIASM

7165
06:08:25,216 --> 06:08:28,216
AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.

7166
06:08:31,222 --> 06:08:33,224
I COMMUTE FROM THE FOREST GLEN METRO TWICE A WEEK

7167
06:08:33,224 --> 06:08:34,225
AND WORK FROM HOME ON THE OTHER DAYS.

7168
06:08:34,225 --> 06:08:36,227
I FOLLOW CLOSELY THE WORK OF MONTGOMERY

7169
06:08:36,227 --> 06:08:37,228
PLANNING, ESPECIALLY THE HOUSING NEEDS

7170
06:08:37,228 --> 06:08:40,228
ASSESSMENT, AS WELL AS THE

7171
06:08:41,232 --> 06:08:44,202
WORK DONE FOR THE THRIVE

7172
06:08:44,202 --> 06:08:47,205
GENERAL PLAN. THE NEED FOR NEW HOUSING IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY

7173
06:08:47,205 --> 06:08:49,205
IS GREAT.

7174
06:08:50,208 --> 06:08:53,211
TO BE A MORE EQUITABLE COUNTY WE NEED TO

7175
06:08:53,211 --> 06:08:55,213
BUILD MORE HOUSING. TO DO THAT

7176
06:08:55,213 --> 06:08:56,214
AN OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL CONVERSION

7177
06:08:56,214 --> 06:08:58,214
IS

7178
06:08:59,217 --> 06:09:01,219
AN IDEAL SOLUTION. AS WE WORK

7179
06:09:01,219 --> 06:09:02,220
TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT IN THE FACE

7180
06:09:02,220 --> 06:09:04,222
OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WE

7181
06:09:04,222 --> 06:09:05,223
NEED TO DO ALL WE CAN TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES AND

7182
06:09:05,223 --> 06:09:07,223
MOVE TO MORE

7183
06:09:09,227 --> 06:09:10,228
SUSTAINABLE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. I

7184
06:09:10,228 --> 06:09:11,229
CANNOT THINK OF A BETTER LOCATION

7185
06:09:11,229 --> 06:09:14,232
FOR NEW HOUSING THEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM A METRO

7186
06:09:14,232 --> 06:09:17,202
AND ALONG THE HIGH FREQUENCY

7187
06:09:17,202 --> 06:09:20,202
BUS CORRIDOR ON GEORGIA AVENUE.

7188
06:09:20,205 --> 06:09:21,206
THE NEW RESIDENTS WILL HAVE EASY ACCESS TO BOTH TRANSIT

7189
06:09:21,206 --> 06:09:23,208
OPTIONS AND THE COUNTY LEVERAGES THE

7190
06:09:23,208 --> 06:09:26,208
REGIONS INVESTMENT IN METRO AND

7191
06:09:26,211 --> 06:09:28,213
THE FUTURE BUS RAPID TRANSIT ALONG

7192
06:09:28,213 --> 06:09:31,813
THE CORRIDOR. THE RECENTLY ADOPTED DRIVE

7193
06:09:32,217 --> 06:09:33,218
GENERAL PLAN ENVISIONS A FUTURE FOR

7194
06:09:33,218 --> 06:09:35,220
A COUNTY THAT CREATES PLACES WHERE WE

7195
06:09:35,220 --> 06:09:38,223
CAN INCREASE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING, IMPROVE TRANSIT AND STRENGTHEN

7196
06:09:38,223 --> 06:09:40,223
ESSENCES TOGETHER IN

7197
06:09:41,226 --> 06:09:42,227
EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE WAYS.

7198
06:09:42,227 --> 06:09:44,229
THIS PROJECT CHECKS ALL OF THERE'S BOXES AND

7199
06:09:44,229 --> 06:09:45,230
GETS US ON THAT PATH. WE

7200
06:09:45,230 --> 06:09:47,232
REALLY NEED TO DO MORE OF THIS KIND

7201
06:09:47,232 --> 06:09:49,632
OF THING, NOT LESS.

7202
06:09:50,201 --> 06:09:51,202
SO, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE

7203
06:09:51,202 --> 06:09:53,204
IS OPPOSITION FOR VARIOUS REASONS

7204
06:09:53,204 --> 06:09:54,205
FROM MY NEIGHBORS, I HOPE THAT

7205
06:09:54,205 --> 06:09:56,207
THE PLANNING BOARD WILL KEEP IN MIND

7206
06:09:56,207 --> 06:09:58,207
THESE REALLY IMPORTANT

7207
06:10:00,211 --> 06:10:01,212
POLICY GOALS THAT WE, AS A LARGER

7208
06:10:01,212 --> 06:10:02,213
COMMUNITY NEED TO BE WORKING TOWARDS

7209
06:10:02,213 --> 06:10:03,214
AND SEE

7210
06:10:03,214 --> 06:10:06,217
THIS PROJECT AS PART OF THE SOLUTION

7211
06:10:06,217 --> 06:10:08,253
AND APPROVE THIS SKETCH PLAN. THANK

7212
06:10:08,253 --> 06:10:11,253
YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU

7213
06:10:11,256 --> 06:10:13,256
VERY MUCH. JESSICA? >>

7214
06:10:17,262 --> 06:10:19,262
HELLO.

7215
06:10:20,265 --> 06:10:22,267
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

7216
06:10:22,267 --> 06:10:25,236
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I UNDERSTAND

7217
06:10:25,236 --> 06:10:26,237
THE INTENTION OF THE MONTGOMERY HILLS

7218
06:10:26,237 --> 06:10:29,237
AND FOREST GLEN SECTOR PLAN

7219
06:10:29,240 --> 06:10:30,241
TO DEVELOP EXISTING

7220
06:10:30,241 --> 06:10:32,243
PRE-EXISTING SITE. I WOULD SUPPORT

7221
06:10:32,243 --> 06:10:34,245
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE

7222
06:10:34,245 --> 06:10:35,246
IN A WAY THAT MEANS THE GOALS OF THE

7223
06:10:35,246 --> 06:10:36,247
SECTOR PLAN AND

7224
06:10:36,247 --> 06:10:39,847
IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

7225
06:10:40,251 --> 06:10:41,252
AND, IF IT WOULD PROVIDE BENEFITS

7226
06:10:41,252 --> 06:10:42,253
TO OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT

7227
06:10:42,253 --> 06:10:44,255
REFLECTED IN ANY ASPECT OF THE JLB

7228
06:10:44,255 --> 06:10:46,255
SKETCH PLAN ,

7229
06:10:46,257 --> 06:10:49,257
AS PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE EXPLAINED.

7230
06:10:49,260 --> 06:10:53,264
I APPRECIATE THE TIME OF AMY LINDSEY

7231
06:10:53,264 --> 06:10:55,664
. SOMETHING SHE EMPHASIZED AND

7232
06:10:56,267 --> 06:10:57,235
PREVIOUSLY SAID

7233
06:10:57,235 --> 06:10:58,236
TO FOREST GROVE CITIZENS ASSOCIATION

7234
06:10:58,236 --> 06:10:59,237
MEETING IS THAT THIS IS THE EARLY

7235
06:10:59,237 --> 06:11:00,238
STAGE OF

7236
06:11:00,238 --> 06:11:02,240
THE PROCESS. FROM WHAT I HAVE LEARNED ABOUT

7237
06:11:02,240 --> 06:11:04,240
THE FACTS

7238
06:11:04,242 --> 06:11:05,243
OF HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS, IT IS CLEAR

7239
06:11:05,243 --> 06:11:07,245
THAT IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS

7240
06:11:07,245 --> 06:11:08,246
SKETCH PLAN WITH CONDITIONS, THIS

7241
06:11:08,246 --> 06:11:11,249
MECHANISM FOR THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD WOULD

7242
06:11:11,249 --> 06:11:14,249
NOT BE AN EFFECTIVE WAY

7243
06:11:14,252 --> 06:11:16,254
OR MANNER IN WHICH TO ENSURE

7244
06:11:16,254 --> 06:11:20,454
OUR CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED BY THE DEVELOPER.

7245
06:11:22,260 --> 06:11:23,261
IN ADDITION TO ENDORSING THE FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS

7246
06:11:23,261 --> 06:11:24,262
ARTICULATED BY

7247
06:11:24,262 --> 06:11:26,264
MY NEIGHBORS, I WILL FOCUS ON TWO

7248
06:11:26,264 --> 06:11:27,265
SPECIFIC REASONS WHY THIS SKETCH PLAN

7249
06:11:27,265 --> 06:11:29,267
DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE MONTGOMERY HILLS

7250
06:11:29,267 --> 06:11:31,267
-FOREST GLEN

7251
06:11:32,237 --> 06:11:34,237
SECTOR PLAN.

7252
06:11:34,239 --> 06:11:35,240
TWO ENVIRONMENTALLY DESTRUCTIVE ACTIONS

7253
06:11:35,240 --> 06:11:37,240
THE PLAN

7254
06:11:37,242 --> 06:11:38,243
CALLS FOR DIRECTLY CONTRADICT THESE

7255
06:11:38,243 --> 06:11:40,243
GOALS FROM THE

7256
06:11:41,246 --> 06:11:43,246
SECTOR PLAN. CREATE

7257
06:11:44,249 --> 06:11:46,251
GOALS FOR ECOLOGICAL HEALTH AND

7258
06:11:46,251 --> 06:11:47,252
TO REMEDY PAST ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS

7259
06:11:47,252 --> 06:11:49,252
AND PROTECT

7260
06:11:50,255 --> 06:11:52,655
AGAINST FUTURE ECOLOGICAL DEGRADATION.

7261
06:11:53,258 --> 06:11:55,260
THE SKETCH PLAN SHOWS THAT

7262
06:11:55,260 --> 06:11:56,261
THE DEVELOPER WON'T BE ABLE TO COVER

7263
06:11:56,261 --> 06:11:58,263
A SURFACE AREA THAT

7264
06:11:58,263 --> 06:11:59,264
WILL MOVE 1.25 ACRE FOREST DID PROPERTY

7265
06:11:59,264 --> 06:12:01,264
AT

7266
06:12:02,267 --> 06:12:05,236
THE END OF GEORGIA AVENUE.

7267
06:12:05,236 --> 06:12:08,273
AS WELL AS THE TWO CHERRY TREES ALONG

7268
06:12:08,273 --> 06:12:10,273
THE SITE ON

7269
06:12:10,275 --> 06:12:11,276
FOREST GLEN ROAD WHICH ARE OVER 100

7270
06:12:11,276 --> 06:12:13,276
YEARS OLD.

7271
06:12:14,279 --> 06:12:17,279
THE 1.25 ACRE FOREST IS THE

7272
06:12:17,282 --> 06:12:19,284
LAST REMAINING WOODLAND OF THE ORIGINAL

7273
06:12:19,284 --> 06:12:20,285
PROPERTY IN THIS AREA AND THE TREE CANOPY

7274
06:12:20,285 --> 06:12:22,287
IS A VALUABLE ASSET

7275
06:12:22,287 --> 06:12:23,288
TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, THE FOREST

7276
06:12:23,288 --> 06:12:25,288
HAS

7277
06:12:26,291 --> 06:12:29,294
BEEN IMPACTED BY INVASIVE PLANTS BUT THIS COULD BE

7278
06:12:29,294 --> 06:12:31,694
REMEDIATED AS THE BOARDS

7279
06:12:32,297 --> 06:12:34,297
RESPONSIBILITY

7280
06:12:35,300 --> 06:12:38,269
IS TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS , ACCORDING TO

7281
06:12:38,269 --> 06:12:39,270
THE SECTOR PLAN.

7282
06:12:39,270 --> 06:12:41,272
THERE ARE NATIVE FINDS THAT SURVIVED

7283
06:12:41,272 --> 06:12:44,272
THE INVASIVES IN THAT AREA

7284
06:12:44,275 --> 06:12:47,278
ACCORDING TO A FOREST SPECIALIST I VISITED WITH FROM

7285
06:12:47,278 --> 06:12:49,278
MONTGOMERY COUNTY. DISTURBINGLY

7286
06:12:50,281 --> 06:12:52,281
, THE 1.25

7287
06:12:53,284 --> 06:12:55,284
ACRE FOREST ON

7288
06:12:55,286 --> 06:12:56,287
THE SITE HAS BEEN MORE DEVASTATED

7289
06:12:56,287 --> 06:12:58,287
BY

7290
06:12:58,289 --> 06:13:01,292
TRASH DUMPING BY THE PROPERTY OWNER

7291
06:13:01,292 --> 06:13:02,293
AND THE CLEAR CUTTING OF TREES, WHICH HAS EFFECTIVELY

7292
06:13:02,293 --> 06:13:04,293
REDUCED IT TO

7293
06:13:05,296 --> 06:13:08,299
BE ABOUT ONE ACRE. THIS IS AN UNDERHANDED ACTION

7294
06:13:08,299 --> 06:13:09,300
AND

7295
06:13:09,300 --> 06:13:11,269
RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE OWNER

7296
06:13:11,269 --> 06:13:13,271
OR DEVELOPER OR ONE OF THEIR AGENTS

7297
06:13:13,271 --> 06:13:14,272
IS CLEAR CUTTING THE TREES TO DECREASED THE

7298
06:13:14,272 --> 06:13:16,272
FOUR SIDES AND

7299
06:13:16,274 --> 06:13:17,275
RAISE THE NEED FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY

7300
06:13:17,275 --> 06:13:19,275
AS AMY MENTIONED.

7301
06:13:20,278 --> 06:13:22,678
DESTROYING THE TWO HISTORICAL

7302
06:13:23,281 --> 06:13:26,284
CHERRY TREES WOULD ALSO BE A TRAVESTY. THEY

7303
06:13:26,284 --> 06:13:29,284
ARE BOTH NINE TO NINE

7304
06:13:29,287 --> 06:13:30,288
AND HALF FEET IN DIAMETER. IT IS

7305
06:13:30,288 --> 06:13:32,290
LIKELY THEY WERE PART OF THE SECOND

7306
06:13:32,290 --> 06:13:33,291
JAPANESE GIFT OF

7307
06:13:33,291 --> 06:13:35,293
CHERRY BLOSSOMS TO THE NATIONAL CAPITAL

7308
06:13:35,293 --> 06:13:38,293
REGION OF THE 3000 CHEESE GIVEN

7309
06:13:38,296 --> 06:13:40,296
IN 2012.

7310
06:13:41,299 --> 06:13:43,301
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE PLANTED

7311
06:13:43,301 --> 06:13:44,269
AS PART OF THIS HISTORICAL EVENT,

7312
06:13:44,269 --> 06:13:46,669
THEY ARE LIVING IN

7313
06:13:47,272 --> 06:13:49,272
AN HISTORICAL

7314
06:13:49,274 --> 06:13:50,275
AREA OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHOULD

7315
06:13:50,275 --> 06:13:51,276
BE PRESERVED, NOT CHOPPED

7316
06:13:51,276 --> 06:13:53,278
DOWN WITHOUT A CARE. >> PLEASE CONCLUDE. >>

7317
06:13:53,278 --> 06:13:55,678
THIS DEVELOPER JUST WANTS

7318
06:13:56,281 --> 06:13:58,281
TO

7319
06:13:59,284 --> 06:14:01,284
SAVE AS MUCH

7320
06:14:01,286 --> 06:14:02,287
MONEY IN THIS SITE AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >>

7321
06:14:02,287 --> 06:14:03,288
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. >> [ APPLAUSE

7322
06:14:03,288 --> 06:14:05,323
] >> IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO

7323
06:14:05,323 --> 06:14:08,323
COME UP TO THE TABLE.

7324
06:14:08,326 --> 06:14:10,326
WE CERTAINLY KNOW

7325
06:14:11,329 --> 06:14:14,329
A LOT ABOUT THE PROJECT.

7326
06:14:14,332 --> 06:14:17,302
WE CERTAINLY KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING STAFF

7327
06:14:17,302 --> 06:14:19,302
HAS RECOMMENDED.

7328
06:14:20,305 --> 06:14:23,308
BUT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD

7329
06:14:23,308 --> 06:14:27,508
RESPOND TO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

7330
06:14:29,314 --> 06:14:31,314
>>

7331
06:14:32,317 --> 06:14:34,317
GOOD AFTERNOON .

7332
06:14:38,323 --> 06:14:40,325
I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, JLB.

7333
06:14:40,325 --> 06:14:41,326
I WANTED TO WELCOME THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE

7334
06:14:41,326 --> 06:14:43,326
NOT APPEARED BEFORE

7335
06:14:44,329 --> 06:14:46,329
. THERE IS

7336
06:14:47,332 --> 06:14:50,335
A LOT TO UNPACK IN ALL THAT WAS

7337
06:14:50,335 --> 06:14:53,304
SPOKEN TO, BOTH FROM STAFF AND

7338
06:14:53,304 --> 06:14:56,307
FROM THE COMMUNITY. I JUST WANTED

7339
06:14:56,307 --> 06:15:00,311
TO RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OF HIGH POINTS AND AS

7340
06:15:00,311 --> 06:15:01,312
YOU NOTED ,

7341
06:15:01,312 --> 06:15:02,313
ADDRESS AS MUCH AS I COULD. AS HAS BEEN

7342
06:15:02,313 --> 06:15:03,314
EMPHASIZED MULTIPLE TIMES, THIS IS

7343
06:15:03,314 --> 06:15:04,315
A VERY

7344
06:15:04,315 --> 06:15:06,317
EARLY STAGE IN THE PROCESS. THERE WERE

7345
06:15:06,317 --> 06:15:07,318
COMMENTS MADE

7346
06:15:07,318 --> 06:15:09,320
THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE OPEN SPACE

7347
06:15:09,320 --> 06:15:10,321
OR THE ARCHITECTURE.

7348
06:15:10,321 --> 06:15:13,921
THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY ARCHITECTURE YET.

7349
06:15:19,330 --> 06:15:21,332
I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE FOR NOT LIKING HOW

7350
06:15:21,332 --> 06:15:22,333
IT LOOKS. IS JUST BOXES ON A PAGE AT THIS POINT. I THINK YOU CAN

7351
06:15:22,333 --> 06:15:23,334
SEE IN SOME OF THE EXHIBITS HOW WE

7352
06:15:23,334 --> 06:15:25,303
ARE STARTING TO MOVE TOWARDS BREAKING IT

7353
06:15:25,303 --> 06:15:27,305
DOWN AND CERTAINLY, WE HAVE ALREADY

7354
06:15:27,305 --> 06:15:29,305
WORKED COLLABORATIVELY

7355
06:15:29,307 --> 06:15:30,308
WITH STAFF AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO

7356
06:15:30,308 --> 06:15:32,308
SO TO MAKE

7357
06:15:32,310 --> 06:15:34,710
THE BUILDING APPROPRIATELY ARTICULATED

7358
06:15:35,313 --> 06:15:36,314
AND COMPATIBLE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

7359
06:15:36,314 --> 06:15:38,314
ON

7360
06:15:38,316 --> 06:15:39,317
THIS PROJECT SINCE THE FALL OF 2021

7361
06:15:39,317 --> 06:15:41,717
AND IT HAS BEEN

7362
06:15:42,320 --> 06:15:43,321
ALLUDED TO

7363
06:15:43,321 --> 06:15:45,323
THAT THERE IS A LOT GOING ON, ASIDE FROM THE

7364
06:15:45,323 --> 06:15:47,323
THREE FRONTAGES.

7365
06:15:47,325 --> 06:15:49,327
THERE ARE UTILITIES THAT BISECT THE PROPERTY.

7366
06:15:49,327 --> 06:15:51,329
WE HAVE COORDINATED AND MET MULTIPLE TIMES

7367
06:15:51,329 --> 06:15:53,329
WITH HSA

7368
06:15:53,331 --> 06:15:56,931
AND THEY HAD PLANS ORIGINALLY FOR

7369
06:15:57,335 --> 06:15:58,302
A POND

7370
06:15:58,302 --> 06:15:59,303
, STORM WATER POND ON THIS PROPERTY

7371
06:15:59,303 --> 06:16:00,304
THAT WOULD TAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT PORTION

7372
06:16:00,304 --> 06:16:02,304
OF IT.

7373
06:16:03,307 --> 06:16:06,344
WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM

7374
06:16:06,344 --> 06:16:08,346
AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THAT STORM

7375
06:16:08,346 --> 06:16:09,347
WATER IN OTHER WAYS TO ALLOW THIS TO

7376
06:16:09,347 --> 06:16:11,349
GO FORWARD. I THOUGHT THAT

7377
06:16:11,349 --> 06:16:14,352
WAS A BIG WIN FOR WHERE THEY ARE IN

7378
06:16:14,352 --> 06:16:18,552
THEIR DESIGN. WE HAVE ALSO COORDINATED WITH

7379
06:16:21,359 --> 06:16:23,359
THE

7380
06:16:24,362 --> 06:16:25,363
DEPARTMENT FOR THE TUNNEL AND HOW DEEP

7381
06:16:25,363 --> 06:16:27,365
IT WOULD BE AND WHAT WAS REQUIRED. WE

7382
06:16:27,365 --> 06:16:30,368
HAVE WORKED THROUGH THAT. THERE IS

7383
06:16:30,368 --> 06:16:33,337
ALSO THE HSA PROJECT THAT CALLS FOR

7384
06:16:33,337 --> 06:16:35,339
A WESTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE

7385
06:16:35,339 --> 06:16:39,343
, WHICH WE CAN GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE.

7386
06:16:39,343 --> 06:16:40,344
THERE WAS A LOT

7387
06:16:40,344 --> 06:16:41,312
OF THE TALK OF THE CONGESTION THAT HAPPENS

7388
06:16:41,312 --> 06:16:45,316
AT THAT INTERSECTION AND AMY ALLUDED TO

7389
06:16:45,316 --> 06:16:47,318
THE FACT THAT THERE IS A PROJECT

7390
06:16:47,318 --> 06:16:48,319
COMING UP FROM HSA THAT WILL ALREADY

7391
06:16:48,319 --> 06:16:49,320
ADDRESS SOME OF

7392
06:16:49,320 --> 06:16:51,322
THOSE CONCERNS. THERE WILL BE A SOUTHBOUND

7393
06:16:51,322 --> 06:16:53,322
LEFT TURN LANE

7394
06:16:54,325 --> 06:16:55,326
FROM GEORGIA AVENUE ONTO FOREST

7395
06:16:55,326 --> 06:16:57,328
GLEN ROAD TO FACILITATE THAT TURNING TOWARD

7396
06:16:57,328 --> 06:16:59,328
THE HOSPITAL .

7397
06:17:00,331 --> 06:17:02,331
AND THEN

7398
06:17:03,334 --> 06:17:06,304
, ALSO COMING OUT AT THE COMMUNITY ON FOREST

7399
06:17:06,304 --> 06:17:08,304
GLEN ROAD

7400
06:17:09,307 --> 06:17:10,308
TO MAKE A RIGHT. RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THAT BACKUP IS CAUSED BY THE

7401
06:17:10,308 --> 06:17:12,310
FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT

7402
06:17:12,310 --> 06:17:15,313
TO GO RIGHT AND ARE STUCK BEHIND PEOPLE TRYING

7403
06:17:15,313 --> 06:17:16,314
TO GO STRAIGHT AND LEFT.

7404
06:17:16,314 --> 06:17:18,316
STATE HIGHWAY HAS DETERMINED THERE

7405
06:17:18,316 --> 06:17:20,316
IS A SOLUTION

7406
06:17:21,319 --> 06:17:22,320
WHO CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE

7407
06:17:22,320 --> 06:17:24,322
IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO

7408
06:17:24,322 --> 06:17:27,325
GET INTO. THE OTHER THING I WANT

7409
06:17:27,325 --> 06:17:29,327
TO MENTION IS THAT

7410
06:17:29,327 --> 06:17:30,328
THE FOREST GLEN SECTOR PLAN WAS ADOPTED

7411
06:17:30,328 --> 06:17:31,329
IN 2020, WHICH IS PRETTY

7412
06:17:31,329 --> 06:17:33,331
RECENT FOR SECTOR PLAN. THAT IS THE

7413
06:17:33,331 --> 06:17:35,333
VISION FOR THIS AREA.

7414
06:17:35,333 --> 06:17:36,334
THAT SET THE REZONING WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED

7415
06:17:36,334 --> 06:17:37,335
THE

7416
06:17:37,335 --> 06:17:39,303
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THIS SITE.

7417
06:17:39,303 --> 06:17:40,304
WE HAVE HEARD

7418
06:17:40,304 --> 06:17:43,904
TESTIMONY OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK COMPATIBLE

7419
06:17:44,308 --> 06:17:45,309
WHEN THEY ARE TALKING AND THINKING

7420
06:17:45,309 --> 06:17:47,309
ABOUT TOWN

7421
06:17:48,312 --> 06:17:50,314
HOUSES. THAT IS NOT

7422
06:17:50,314 --> 06:17:51,315
THE DECISION THE COUNTY COUNSEL MAY. THEY WANTED

7423
06:17:51,315 --> 06:17:53,317
SOMETHING MUCH MORE DENSE HERE

7424
06:17:53,317 --> 06:17:58,117
AND GAVE MORE DENSITY THEN WE ARE PROPOSING.

7425
06:18:00,324 --> 06:18:01,325
WHAT

7426
06:18:01,325 --> 06:18:04,925
IS BEING PROPOSED IS 460,000 SQUARE FEET

7427
06:18:05,363 --> 06:18:06,364
AND WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IS 536,000

7428
06:18:06,364 --> 06:18:08,364
SQUARE FEET.

7429
06:18:09,367 --> 06:18:12,336
SO, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE CHALLENGING

7430
06:18:12,336 --> 06:18:14,336
JLB'S INTENT AND

7431
06:18:15,339 --> 06:18:16,340
OBJECTIVES

7432
06:18:16,340 --> 06:18:18,342
AND MAYBE, THEY COULD DO MORE AND

7433
06:18:18,342 --> 06:18:21,345
THEY ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERY DIME OUT, THERE ARE

7434
06:18:21,345 --> 06:18:23,347
ACTUALLY 75,000 FEET OF DENSITY

7435
06:18:23,347 --> 06:18:24,348
AND 40 FEET OF HEIGHT THAT IS BEING LEFT

7436
06:18:24,348 --> 06:18:26,348
ON

7437
06:18:27,351 --> 06:18:30,354
THE TABLE. THAT IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMICS

7438
06:18:30,354 --> 06:18:31,355
OF IT. AND, WHAT

7439
06:18:31,355 --> 06:18:33,357
IS ACTUALLY ACHIEVABLE GIVEN ALL OF THE

7440
06:18:33,357 --> 06:18:35,357
COMPETING INTERESTS.

7441
06:18:37,361 --> 06:18:39,363
WHEREAS THE SECTOR PLAN SETS THE VISION,

7442
06:18:39,363 --> 06:18:42,366
THE MARKET HAS TO SET THE REALITY OF WHAT

7443
06:18:42,366 --> 06:18:44,366
IS ACHIEVABLE. THAT

7444
06:18:45,336 --> 06:18:46,337
DENSITY WILL ALSO LIKELY

7445
06:18:46,337 --> 06:18:50,341
BE REDUCED AS WE GO THROUGH SITE PLANS

7446
06:18:50,341 --> 06:18:51,342
AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF

7447
06:18:51,342 --> 06:18:53,742
STAFF TO FURTHER ARTICULATE

7448
06:18:54,345 --> 06:18:57,348
CERTAIN FRONTAGES. WE ALSO FOUND OUT SUBSEQUENT TO THE ADOPTION OF THE

7449
06:18:57,348 --> 06:18:58,349
SECTOR PLAN THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY

7450
06:18:58,349 --> 06:19:00,351
1.25 ACRES OF FOREST ON THIS SITE.

7451
06:19:00,351 --> 06:19:02,353
WE HAD EXPERTS GO

7452
06:19:02,353 --> 06:19:05,356
OUT THERE AND MEASURE IT. THERE ARE

7453
06:19:05,356 --> 06:19:06,357
.4 ACRES AND AS AMY NOTED IT IS NOT

7454
06:19:06,357 --> 06:19:08,757
IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.

7455
06:19:09,360 --> 06:19:11,362
IT IS VERY HIGHLY CHOKED WITH

7456
06:19:11,362 --> 06:19:12,363
INVASIVES AND YOU SAW THE PICTURES

7457
06:19:12,363 --> 06:19:15,363
, SO I WON'T BELABOR THAT.

7458
06:19:15,366 --> 06:19:16,367
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE

7459
06:19:16,367 --> 06:19:18,336
DISCOVERED PRETTY EARLY ON THAT WE

7460
06:19:18,336 --> 06:19:20,338
NEEDED TO WORK THROUGH WAS THE

7461
06:19:20,338 --> 06:19:21,339
IDEA OF A DROP OFF FOR THE METRO ON

7462
06:19:21,339 --> 06:19:23,339
THE PROPERTY.

7463
06:19:24,342 --> 06:19:27,342
AS WAS NOTED , THERE ARE

7464
06:19:29,347 --> 06:19:30,348
20 FEET OF DROPPING GREAT AS YOU GO

7465
06:19:30,348 --> 06:19:33,351
FROM GEORGIA AVENUE DOWN TO FOREST GLEN

7466
06:19:33,351 --> 06:19:35,351
ROAD AND THAT

7467
06:19:35,353 --> 06:19:36,354
COMPLICATES THE FLOORS OF THE BUILDING. YOU CAN'T

7468
06:19:36,354 --> 06:19:38,354
JUST DRIVE THROUGH.

7469
06:19:39,357 --> 06:19:40,358
SO, THERE NEEDS TO BE

7470
06:19:40,358 --> 06:19:42,360
A CERTAIN LEVEL OF CIRCULATION IN ADDITION

7471
06:19:42,360 --> 06:19:44,360
TO THE

7472
06:19:44,362 --> 06:19:45,363
RETAIL PARKING AND CIRCULATION AND

7473
06:19:45,363 --> 06:19:47,363
RESIDENTIAL PARKING

7474
06:19:48,366 --> 06:19:50,368
AND CIRCULATION THAT IS GOING ON AND THE SEPARATION

7475
06:19:50,368 --> 06:19:54,568
OF USES. AGAIN, WE HAVE EXPERTS CAN

7476
06:20:00,344 --> 06:20:01,345
SPEAK TO IT MUCH MORE. IT BECAME READILY APPARENT THAT HAVING ANOTHER

7477
06:20:01,345 --> 06:20:03,381
AREA OF DROP OFF WHERE ANYONE COULD COME

7478
06:20:03,381 --> 06:20:06,384
ON AND PART TEMPORARILY AND DRIVE OFF WAS TOO COMPLICATED AND

7479
06:20:06,384 --> 06:20:09,387
NOT ACHIEVABLE ON THIS SITE. I THINK WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE

7480
06:20:09,387 --> 06:20:14,187
THAT IS SOMETHING THERE HAS BEEN A LOT

7481
06:20:15,393 --> 06:20:16,394
OF COMPLIANCE WITH SECTOR

7482
06:20:16,394 --> 06:20:17,395
PLAN COMPLIANCE, THE PART ABOUT IT

7483
06:20:17,395 --> 06:20:18,396
BEING ON THE SITE CANNOT BE ACHIEVED. HOWEVER,

7484
06:20:18,396 --> 06:20:21,396
WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH

7485
06:20:21,399 --> 06:20:23,399
STAFF AND MDOT

7486
06:20:24,368 --> 06:20:26,368
TO COME UP

7487
06:20:26,370 --> 06:20:29,373
WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WILL PUT THOSE

7488
06:20:29,373 --> 06:20:30,374
PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE DROPPED OFF AND

7489
06:20:30,374 --> 06:20:33,377
PICKED UP CLOSER TO THE NEW ENTRANCE TO

7490
06:20:33,377 --> 06:20:35,377
THE METRO.

7491
06:20:36,380 --> 06:20:39,383
DESPITE ALL OF THIS AND THE MANY CHALLENGES,

7492
06:20:39,383 --> 06:20:40,384
THE PROJECT DOES ACHIEVE

7493
06:20:40,384 --> 06:20:42,386
SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE OF THE SECTOR PLAN.

7494
06:20:42,386 --> 06:20:45,386
I WON'T GO THROUGH --HOWEVER,

7495
06:20:45,389 --> 06:20:48,389
I CAN , BUT I WON'T.

7496
06:20:48,392 --> 06:20:50,394
I ASSUME YOU HAVE ALL SEEN BECAUSE WE SUBMITTED A

7497
06:20:50,394 --> 06:20:52,396
LETTER YESTERDAY THAT GOES THROUGH THAT

7498
06:20:52,396 --> 06:20:54,396
IN

7499
06:20:54,398 --> 06:20:55,399
SOME DETAIL , ALONG WITH SOME OF THE

7500
06:20:55,399 --> 06:20:57,399
TRAFFIC

7501
06:20:58,369 --> 06:21:00,371
ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT.

7502
06:21:00,371 --> 06:21:01,372
MORE GLOBALLY , WHAT WE REALLY WANT

7503
06:21:01,372 --> 06:21:03,372
TO

7504
06:21:04,375 --> 06:21:06,375
EMPHASIZE IS THAT

7505
06:21:06,377 --> 06:21:07,378
THE COUNTY HAS SET CERTAIN POLICIES

7506
06:21:07,378 --> 06:21:09,378
, BOTH

7507
06:21:09,380 --> 06:21:10,381
THROUGH ITS GROWTH IN INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY

7508
06:21:10,381 --> 06:21:12,381
THAT WAS

7509
06:21:13,384 --> 06:21:16,387
RECENTLY ADOPTED THAT PLACE THIS PROPERTY

7510
06:21:16,387 --> 06:21:17,388
IN A RED POLICY AREA. THROUGH

7511
06:21:17,388 --> 06:21:19,390
THE SECTOR PLAN, WHICH CALLED FOR THE

7512
06:21:19,390 --> 06:21:21,790
UP ZONING THAT WANTS

7513
06:21:22,393 --> 06:21:24,395
THE DENSITY HERE. THERE IS A

7514
06:21:24,395 --> 06:21:28,399
COUNTY POLICY THAT WANTS HOUSING ON TOP

7515
06:21:28,399 --> 06:21:30,401
OF METRO , JUST LIKE THIS SITE

7516
06:21:30,401 --> 06:21:31,368
AND IT SPECIFICALLY IS IDENTIFIED

7517
06:21:31,368 --> 06:21:33,368
FOR HIGH DENSITY

7518
06:21:33,370 --> 06:21:36,970
HOUSING HERE. SO, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND

7519
06:21:37,374 --> 06:21:39,377
IT AND CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH

7520
06:21:39,377 --> 06:21:40,378
THE DESIRES OF THE FEW THAT YOU HAVE

7521
06:21:40,378 --> 06:21:41,379
HEARD WHO DON'T WANT

7522
06:21:41,379 --> 06:21:43,381
HIGH DENSITY HOUSING AND WHAT THAT

7523
06:21:43,381 --> 06:21:45,381
ENTAILS RIGHT NEXT

7524
06:21:46,383 --> 06:21:48,385
TO THEM , THERE IS A LARGER

7525
06:21:48,385 --> 06:21:49,386
COUNTY POLICY AT ISSUE HERE. THE OTHER

7526
06:21:49,386 --> 06:21:51,386
THING I WANT

7527
06:21:52,389 --> 06:21:54,389
TO NOTE IS

7528
06:21:54,391 --> 06:21:55,392
, YOU HAVE HEARD IN MUCH OF THE TESTIMONY ABOUT

7529
06:21:55,392 --> 06:21:57,392
THE

7530
06:21:58,396 --> 06:22:00,396
500 CARS

7531
06:22:01,432 --> 06:22:02,433
OR 400 CARS AND THE GRIDLOCK IT

7532
06:22:02,433 --> 06:22:03,434
WILL CAUSE. THERE IS A REASON THERE ARE EXPERTS

7533
06:22:03,434 --> 06:22:04,435
THAT STUDY TRAFFIC AND YOU HAVE SOME

7534
06:22:04,435 --> 06:22:05,402
ON

7535
06:22:05,402 --> 06:22:07,404
YOUR STAFF. APPLICANTS ARE REQUIRED

7536
06:22:07,404 --> 06:22:09,404
TO HIRE THEM.

7537
06:22:10,407 --> 06:22:12,409
IT IS NOT 400 CARS AT RUSH HOUR.

7538
06:22:12,409 --> 06:22:16,414
I HAVE THE NUMBERS AND WHAT I SUBMITTED.

7539
06:22:16,414 --> 06:22:18,416
IT IS FAR LESS THAN THAT AND

7540
06:22:18,416 --> 06:22:19,417
THEY ARE USING BOTH THE GEORGIA AVENUE

7541
06:22:19,417 --> 06:22:21,417
AND THE

7542
06:22:21,418 --> 06:22:22,419
WOODLAND ROAD ACCESS POINTS. SO, IT

7543
06:22:22,419 --> 06:22:24,819
IS NOT ALL OF

7544
06:22:25,422 --> 06:22:26,423
A SUDDEN WHEN

7545
06:22:26,423 --> 06:22:27,424
EVERYONE IS TRYING TO GO TO WORK THERE

7546
06:22:27,424 --> 06:22:29,426
ARE 400 OR 500 MORE CARS POURING OUT OF

7547
06:22:29,426 --> 06:22:32,430
THIS PROPERTY. I WOULD JUST CAUTION

7548
06:22:32,430 --> 06:22:34,432
THAT WHEN YOU ARE EVALUATING THIS

7549
06:22:34,432 --> 06:22:37,435
YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND

7550
06:22:37,435 --> 06:22:38,402
THAT WHILE SOMETIMES

7551
06:22:38,402 --> 06:22:39,403
TESTIMONY CAN CREATE A LITTLE BIT

7552
06:22:39,403 --> 06:22:40,404
OF AN ECHO CHAMBER WHERE THINGS SEEM TO

7553
06:22:40,404 --> 06:22:42,404
BECOME MORE

7554
06:22:43,407 --> 06:22:45,407
TRUE

7555
06:22:51,415 --> 06:22:52,416
BECAUSE IT SAID REPEATEDLY, THERE ARE EXPERTS WHO

7556
06:22:52,416 --> 06:22:53,417
CAN BREAK THAT DOWN.

7557
06:22:53,417 --> 06:22:54,418
AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WILL BE EVALUATED,

7558
06:22:54,418 --> 06:22:55,419
TRAFFIC CALMING AND CIRCULATION WILL

7559
06:22:55,419 --> 06:22:56,420
BE EVALUATED AT THE TIME A

7560
06:22:56,420 --> 06:22:57,421
PRELIMINARY PLAN. ALSO, THE SAFETY

7561
06:22:57,421 --> 06:23:00,424
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT PEDESTRIANS

7562
06:23:00,424 --> 06:23:01,425
, WITH ITS MOVEMENT TO A RED POLICY AREA

7563
06:23:01,425 --> 06:23:03,425
AND THE ADOPTION

7564
06:23:03,427 --> 06:23:04,428
OF THE NEW GROWTH AND INSTRUCTOR POLICY,

7565
06:23:04,428 --> 06:23:06,428
THE COUNTY

7566
06:23:06,430 --> 06:23:07,431
HAS PUT AN EMPHASIS ON MANY OF THE

7567
06:23:07,431 --> 06:23:09,431
THINGS YOU HEARD

7568
06:23:09,433 --> 06:23:11,833
, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BICYCLE SAFETY

7569
06:23:13,404 --> 06:23:15,406
, KIDS GETTING SAFELY TO SCHOOL ,

7570
06:23:15,406 --> 06:23:16,407
WE NEED MORE SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS

7571
06:23:16,407 --> 06:23:18,407
.

7572
06:23:19,410 --> 06:23:21,410
THERE NEEDS

7573
06:23:21,412 --> 06:23:22,413
TO BE A REAL FOCUS ON BICYCLE SAFETY

7574
06:23:22,413 --> 06:23:24,415
AND HOW THAT WORKS

7575
06:23:24,415 --> 06:23:25,416
AND INTERACTS WITH ALL OF THE OTHER

7576
06:23:25,416 --> 06:23:27,416
MODES. THAT

7577
06:23:28,419 --> 06:23:30,419
WILL BE SOMETHING

7578
06:23:31,422 --> 06:23:32,423
, AGAIN THAT IS COMPREHENSIVELY STUDIED AT

7579
06:23:32,423 --> 06:23:34,425
THE NEXT STAGE, SHOULD WE BE SO LUCKY

7580
06:23:34,425 --> 06:23:37,428
TO GET THERE. AND, THERE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY

7581
06:23:37,428 --> 06:23:38,429
$1.85 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENTS

7582
06:23:38,429 --> 06:23:40,431
UNDER THE GUIDELINES THAT WOULD BE

7583
06:23:40,431 --> 06:23:42,831
REQUIRED TO ADDRESS THOSE

7584
06:23:43,434 --> 06:23:45,434
ISSUES.

7585
06:23:49,406 --> 06:23:52,406
THE PARKING CONCERN , WE HAVE

7586
06:23:52,409 --> 06:23:54,409
HEARD THAT. IT

7587
06:23:54,411 --> 06:23:55,412
IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FROM STAFF. LET

7588
06:23:55,412 --> 06:23:57,412
ME PIVOT QUICKLY

7589
06:23:58,415 --> 06:24:01,452
AS I SAY CONDITION, I APOLOGIZE. WE

7590
06:24:01,452 --> 06:24:03,452
SHOULD HAVE STARTED

7591
06:24:04,455 --> 06:24:05,456
WITH

7592
06:24:05,456 --> 06:24:06,457
THINKING STAFF FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT

7593
06:24:06,457 --> 06:24:07,458
ON THIS. WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS FOR

7594
06:24:07,458 --> 06:24:08,459
OVER ONE YEAR AND HAVE

7595
06:24:08,459 --> 06:24:10,461
HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS. IT IS NOT AN EASY

7596
06:24:10,461 --> 06:24:14,465
SITE AND WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS AGREED.

7597
06:24:14,465 --> 06:24:16,467
MOST OF THE TIME, WE DIDN'T AGREE, BUT I

7598
06:24:16,467 --> 06:24:17,468
AM HAPPY TO SAY WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF

7599
06:24:17,468 --> 06:24:19,436
THE CONDITIONS. THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY WHAT

7600
06:24:19,436 --> 06:24:20,437
WE HAVE DESIRED , BUT

7601
06:24:20,437 --> 06:24:21,438
WE CAN LIVE WITH THEM AND LOOK FORWARD

7602
06:24:21,438 --> 06:24:22,439
TO WORKING WITH STAFF ON THOSE. THAT WAS

7603
06:24:22,439 --> 06:24:24,439
ME BACK

7604
06:24:25,442 --> 06:24:28,445
TO MY ORIGINAL POINT ABOUT THE PARKING.

7605
06:24:28,445 --> 06:24:32,450
THE PARKING ISSUE IS NOT SET.

7606
06:24:33,450 --> 06:24:34,451
WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS IS THE BEGINNING

7607
06:24:34,451 --> 06:24:36,453
AND END. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL CONTINUE TO

7608
06:24:36,453 --> 06:24:37,454
WORK THROUGH AS WE GO THROUGH THE

7609
06:24:37,454 --> 06:24:39,454
NEXT STAGES

7610
06:24:39,456 --> 06:24:40,457
, SHOULD WE GET THERE. AS I MENTIONED, WE

7611
06:24:40,457 --> 06:24:42,457
WILL BE

7612
06:24:43,460 --> 06:24:45,860
WORKING HEAVILY ON THAT.

7613
06:24:46,463 --> 06:24:47,464
THERE ARE A LOT OF

7614
06:24:47,464 --> 06:24:49,466
OTHER THINGS I COULD ADDRESS, THE

7615
06:24:49,466 --> 06:24:51,466
CHILDCARE FACILITY

7616
06:24:52,436 --> 06:24:55,439
, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RAMBLE ON

7617
06:24:55,439 --> 06:24:56,440
AND ON. IT IS PROBABLY

7618
06:24:56,440 --> 06:24:58,442
BETTER TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE

7619
06:24:58,442 --> 06:25:01,445
ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. WE HAVE THE FULL COMPLEMENT

7620
06:25:01,445 --> 06:25:03,447
OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS HERE AND THE APPLICANT

7621
06:25:03,447 --> 06:25:04,448
WITH ANYTHING YOU MAY NEED. >> ARE YOU

7622
06:25:04,448 --> 06:25:06,450
WILLING TO GO FORWARD AT

7623
06:25:06,450 --> 06:25:07,451
THE RISK OF A NOTICE OF VIOLATION

7624
06:25:07,451 --> 06:25:09,451
IN THIS PROCESS?

7625
06:25:10,454 --> 06:25:12,454
>> DO YOU MEAN

7626
06:25:13,457 --> 06:25:15,857
IF --OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE.

7627
06:25:16,460 --> 06:25:18,462
WE WERE NOTIFIED OF THE ISSUE AT THE

7628
06:25:18,462 --> 06:25:19,463
PRE-SUBMISSION MEETING. WE TOOK A LOOK

7629
06:25:19,463 --> 06:25:21,463
AT IT

7630
06:25:21,465 --> 06:25:22,466
AND WE WERE COMFORTABLE WE COMPLIED

7631
06:25:22,466 --> 06:25:24,866
WITH THE INTENT UNDER

7632
06:25:25,436 --> 06:25:29,636
THE LAW. WE HAD MET THE INTENT

7633
06:25:30,441 --> 06:25:31,442
. PEOPLE CAME UP TO US AND SAID THEY

7634
06:25:31,442 --> 06:25:32,443
WERE THERE BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE

7635
06:25:32,443 --> 06:25:33,444
SIGNED. WE GOT A GOOD TURNOUT. SO, YES I

7636
06:25:33,444 --> 06:25:34,445
THINK WE ARE COMFORTABLE PROCEEDING WITH

7637
06:25:34,445 --> 06:25:36,445
THE RISK ON

7638
06:25:37,448 --> 06:25:41,648
THAT. >> LET ME ASK OUR LEGAL COUNSEL

7639
06:25:43,454 --> 06:25:44,455
ON OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE NOTICE

7640
06:25:44,455 --> 06:25:46,457
REQUIREMENTS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE

7641
06:25:46,457 --> 06:25:48,459
QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS ALLIE MILES WITH THE OFFICE OF

7642
06:25:48,459 --> 06:25:49,460
GENERAL COUNSEL. WE DID LOOK INTO

7643
06:25:49,460 --> 06:25:51,460
THIS NOTICE REQUIREMENT

7644
06:26:00,437 --> 06:26:01,438
AND WHAT IT SAYS IN THE CODE, AS WELL

7645
06:26:01,438 --> 06:26:03,440
AS IN THE IMPLEMENTING REGULATIONS OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES IN

7646
06:26:03,440 --> 06:26:04,441
THIS CASE. I THINK MS. LINDSAY FRAMED IT

7647
06:26:04,441 --> 06:26:06,441
VERY WELL,

7648
06:26:07,444 --> 06:26:10,444
WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN

7649
06:26:10,447 --> 06:26:13,450
THE CODE. THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT

7650
06:26:13,450 --> 06:26:16,450
THE PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING SIGN BE

7651
06:26:16,453 --> 06:26:19,456
EQUIVALENT TO THAT PROVIDED TO THE

7652
06:26:19,456 --> 06:26:22,459
RELEVANT APPLICATION AND FOR A SKETCH PLAN.

7653
06:26:22,459 --> 06:26:25,459
I WILL SAY, AS NOTED

7654
06:26:28,465 --> 06:26:29,466
THERE ARE SOME

7655
06:26:29,466 --> 06:26:30,467
SIGN REQUIREMENTS WHERE THE SPECIFICATIONS

7656
06:26:30,467 --> 06:26:31,435
ARE PART OF THE CODE, WERE THAT IS INCLUDED

7657
06:26:31,435 --> 06:26:34,438
IN THE CODE LANGUAGE. BUT, FOR SKETCH

7658
06:26:34,438 --> 06:26:36,440
PLANS THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY, DELEGATED

7659
06:26:36,440 --> 06:26:37,441
TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO PROVIDES

7660
06:26:37,441 --> 06:26:39,441
THEIR OWN

7661
06:26:39,443 --> 06:26:40,444
SIGN POSTING PROCEDURES , AS WELL

7662
06:26:40,444 --> 06:26:42,444
AS A

7663
06:26:43,447 --> 06:26:44,448
SIGN TEMPLATE. SOMETHING

7664
06:26:44,448 --> 06:26:48,480
THAT IS IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES

7665
06:26:49,453 --> 06:26:51,453
, THOSE REGULATIONS, AS

7666
06:26:51,455 --> 06:26:52,456
WELL AS IN THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT SIGN

7667
06:26:52,456 --> 06:26:54,458
POSTING PROCEDURES IS THAT

7668
06:26:54,458 --> 06:26:55,459
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS THE ABILITY

7669
06:26:55,459 --> 06:26:57,459
TO MODIFY

7670
06:26:58,462 --> 06:27:01,465
CERTAIN SPECIFICATIONS. SO, IT IS NOT

7671
06:27:01,465 --> 06:27:03,467
THE SAME AS SOME

7672
06:27:03,467 --> 06:27:04,468
WHERE IN THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE SET IN

7673
06:27:04,468 --> 06:27:06,468
THE CODE.

7674
06:27:07,438 --> 06:27:09,438
GIVEN THAT FLEXIBILITY

7675
06:27:10,441 --> 06:27:12,443
GIVEN IN THE REGULATIONS , AS

7676
06:27:12,443 --> 06:27:13,444
WELL AS A PRACTICAL MATTER THAT THIS

7677
06:27:13,444 --> 06:27:16,444
WAS A VERY WELL ATTENDED

7678
06:27:16,447 --> 06:27:17,448
THE SUBMITTAL MEETING AND THERE HAS

7679
06:27:17,448 --> 06:27:18,449
BEEN A

7680
06:27:18,449 --> 06:27:20,451
REALLY HIGH LEVEL OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN

7681
06:27:20,451 --> 06:27:22,451
THIS CASE

7682
06:27:24,455 --> 06:27:26,457
, IN LOOKING INTO THE ISSUE WE DIDN'T HAVE CONCERNS

7683
06:27:26,457 --> 06:27:28,457
ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

7684
06:27:28,459 --> 06:27:30,461
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU THE TWO OTHER

7685
06:27:30,461 --> 06:27:32,463
QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE

7686
06:27:32,463 --> 06:27:34,463
PUBLIC. NUMBER ONE,

7687
06:27:35,466 --> 06:27:38,435
CAN WE REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY

7688
06:27:38,435 --> 06:27:40,835
AND/OR SCHOOL TEST

7689
06:27:42,439 --> 06:27:43,440
AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS? >> YES,

7690
06:27:43,440 --> 06:27:46,443
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THAT

7691
06:27:46,443 --> 06:27:47,444
IN TERMS OF WHAT IS APPROPRIATED BY

7692
06:27:47,444 --> 06:27:49,444
THE

7693
06:27:49,446 --> 06:27:50,447
SKETCH PLAN PHASE AND WHAT WILL BE APPROPRIATE

7694
06:27:50,447 --> 06:27:52,447
TO

7695
06:27:52,449 --> 06:27:55,452
REQUIRE IN THE FUTURE AT A PRELIMINARY

7696
06:27:55,452 --> 06:27:59,490
PLANNED PHASE. AT A SKETCH PLAN PHASE

7697
06:27:59,490 --> 06:28:01,490
, BECAUSE THE FINDINGS

7698
06:28:02,493 --> 06:28:04,495
DO NOT ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND

7699
06:28:04,495 --> 06:28:05,496
THE BOARD REALLY NEEDS TO BE LASER

7700
06:28:05,496 --> 06:28:07,496
FOCUSED ON

7701
06:28:08,499 --> 06:28:09,500
THOSE FINDINGS AND

7702
06:28:09,500 --> 06:28:11,502
THAT WOULD INFORM THE SCOPE OF THIS

7703
06:28:11,502 --> 06:28:13,470
REVIEW, REQUESTING

7704
06:28:13,470 --> 06:28:14,471
A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS STAGE WOULD NOT

7705
06:28:14,471 --> 06:28:15,472
BE APPROPRIATE, THOUGH

7706
06:28:15,472 --> 06:28:16,473
CERTAINLY SCHOOL TEST AND TRAFFIC

7707
06:28:16,473 --> 06:28:20,477
STUDY WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY KEY IN THE

7708
06:28:20,477 --> 06:28:21,478
REVIEW FOR

7709
06:28:21,478 --> 06:28:23,480
A PRELIMINARY PLAN. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK

7710
06:28:23,480 --> 06:28:25,480
YOU FOR THAT.

7711
06:28:25,482 --> 06:28:26,483
I THOUGHT I MIGHT TURN TO YOU VERY

7712
06:28:26,483 --> 06:28:28,483
QUICKLY RATHER

7713
06:28:29,486 --> 06:28:32,486
THAN LINGER ON THOSE TOPICS.

7714
06:28:32,489 --> 06:28:34,489
>> I HAVE A

7715
06:28:34,491 --> 06:28:35,492
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. DO YOU BELIEVE EQUIVALENT

7716
06:28:35,492 --> 06:28:37,492
MEANS

7717
06:28:38,495 --> 06:28:41,495
LESS THAN OR GREATER THAN?

7718
06:28:41,498 --> 06:28:44,501
AND , BEFORE YOU ANSWER I WOULD

7719
06:28:44,501 --> 06:28:47,471
ARGUE THAT IT DOES NOT MEAN

7720
06:28:47,471 --> 06:28:49,471
LESS THAN.

7721
06:28:50,474 --> 06:28:53,477
I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT CITIZENS

7722
06:28:53,477 --> 06:28:55,877
ARE PROBABLY MORE FAMILIAR

7723
06:28:56,480 --> 06:28:59,483
WITH SIGNS THAT MEET OR EXCEED

7724
06:28:59,483 --> 06:29:01,483
THE

7725
06:29:01,485 --> 06:29:02,486
SQUARE INCH REQUIREMENT THEN THEY

7726
06:29:02,486 --> 06:29:04,486
ARE FAMILIAR

7727
06:29:04,488 --> 06:29:08,492
WITH SIGNS THAT DON'T MEET IT. OFTEN TIMES

7728
06:29:08,492 --> 06:29:11,492
, WHEN GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS OR AGENCIES

7729
06:29:11,495 --> 06:29:14,498
SET UP A REQUIREMENT THEY ARE

7730
06:29:14,498 --> 06:29:17,501
NOT LOOKING AT IT AS BEING

7731
06:29:17,501 --> 06:29:20,470
A MAXIMUM , AS OPPOSED TO A FLOOR.

7732
06:29:20,470 --> 06:29:23,473
I BELIEVE THE SIZE OF THE SIGN

7733
06:29:23,473 --> 06:29:26,476
WAS THE FLOOR . THESE SIGNS ARE

7734
06:29:26,476 --> 06:29:28,476
PUT UP

7735
06:29:29,479 --> 06:29:31,481
FOR THE PURPOSES OF NOTIFYING

7736
06:29:31,481 --> 06:29:32,482
THE COMMUNITY AND I AM POINTING THIS

7737
06:29:32,482 --> 06:29:34,482
OUT BECAUSE

7738
06:29:35,485 --> 06:29:37,885
DURING MY INTERVIEW PROCESS

7739
06:29:41,491 --> 06:29:44,494
AND BECAUSE I WAS UNDER AN UNUSUAL

7740
06:29:44,494 --> 06:29:46,494
AMOUNT OF SCRUTINY

7741
06:29:47,497 --> 06:29:48,498
AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I WOULD

7742
06:29:48,498 --> 06:29:49,499
BE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE

7743
06:29:49,499 --> 06:29:50,500
WAS A PERCEPTION THAT WE DON'T LISTEN

7744
06:29:50,500 --> 06:29:53,470
TO THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD BE

7745
06:29:53,470 --> 06:29:55,470
VERY CAREFUL IN

7746
06:29:55,472 --> 06:29:59,509
SIDING WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS EQUIVALENT, BUT

7747
06:29:59,509 --> 06:30:02,512
LESS THAN THE STATED VALUES. THANK YOU.

7748
06:30:02,512 --> 06:30:04,512
>> ABSOLUTELY

7749
06:30:05,515 --> 06:30:07,515
,

7750
06:30:07,517 --> 06:30:08,518
COMMISSIONER BARTLEY. IN TERMS OF THE

7751
06:30:08,518 --> 06:30:10,518
INTERPRETATION OF THE

7752
06:30:10,520 --> 06:30:11,521
WORD, EQUIVALENT I THINK WHAT I WOULD

7753
06:30:11,521 --> 06:30:13,521
SAY IS THAT

7754
06:30:14,524 --> 06:30:15,525
I DON'T WANT TO GET

7755
06:30:15,525 --> 06:30:17,527
INTO THE LEGISLATOR INTERPRETATION

7756
06:30:17,527 --> 06:30:20,530
FOR THAT NECESSARILY, BUT TO SAY THAT IS

7757
06:30:20,530 --> 06:30:22,532
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DETERMINED BY THE

7758
06:30:22,532 --> 06:30:23,533
PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF AT INTAKE

7759
06:30:23,533 --> 06:30:25,533
AS

7760
06:30:26,503 --> 06:30:28,503
THEY REVIEW WHAT

7761
06:30:29,506 --> 06:30:31,506
IS SUBMITTED.

7762
06:30:35,512 --> 06:30:38,515
IN THIS CASE, THIS IS SORT OF AN

7763
06:30:38,515 --> 06:30:40,517
UNUSUAL CASE IN JUST THE

7764
06:30:40,517 --> 06:30:43,520
AMOUNT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND PARTICIPATION

7765
06:30:43,520 --> 06:30:44,521
THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN. SO, FOR THAT

7766
06:30:44,521 --> 06:30:46,921
REASON I THINK I

7767
06:30:47,524 --> 06:30:49,924
DON'T SEE THIS BEING

7768
06:30:50,527 --> 06:30:52,527
A FAILED DEFECT

7769
06:30:52,529 --> 06:30:53,530
, ESSENTIALLY IN THE NOTICING OF THIS

7770
06:30:53,530 --> 06:30:55,530
CASE. >> DID PLANNING

7771
06:30:56,533 --> 06:30:59,503
STAFF PROVIDE THE SIGN FOR NOTICE? OR ,

7772
06:30:59,503 --> 06:31:03,507
THE TEMPLATE FOR SIGNING FOR THE NOTICE? >>

7773
06:31:03,507 --> 06:31:05,509
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONCE AGAIN

7774
06:31:05,509 --> 06:31:07,511
THAT THIS WAS THE SIGN FOR THE

7775
06:31:07,511 --> 06:31:11,111
PRE-SUBMITTAL MEETING , NOT THE APPLICATION SIGNED.

7776
06:31:14,518 --> 06:31:17,518
IT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR

7777
06:31:17,521 --> 06:31:19,521
WEBSITE, BUT

7778
06:31:20,524 --> 06:31:22,526
WE DO NOT GIVE OUT SIGNS.

7779
06:31:22,526 --> 06:31:25,526
>> THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED YET, RIGHT.

7780
06:31:29,533 --> 06:31:31,533
OKAY. >>

7781
06:31:35,505 --> 06:31:38,505
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK,

7782
06:31:38,508 --> 06:31:40,508
I KNOW THAT

7783
06:31:44,514 --> 06:31:46,914
THERE ARE SOME AREAS

7784
06:31:47,517 --> 06:31:49,517
THAT SAY

7785
06:31:50,520 --> 06:31:53,520
THE APPLICATION IS IN VIOLATION

7786
06:31:53,523 --> 06:31:55,523
OF THE CODE.

7787
06:31:56,560 --> 06:31:59,563
THE SPECIFIC ONE I REMEMBER WAS THE

7788
06:31:59,563 --> 06:32:01,563
LOADING PLATFORM .

7789
06:32:01,565 --> 06:32:02,566
SO, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THAT

7790
06:32:02,566 --> 06:32:04,566
FOR US?

7791
06:32:05,535 --> 06:32:07,535
>> WITH

7792
06:32:08,538 --> 06:32:11,541
REGARD TO THE SECTION I AM THINKING OF

7793
06:32:11,541 --> 06:32:13,543
THAT MS. ROSENFELD RAISED

7794
06:32:13,543 --> 06:32:17,547
WAS REGARDING THE ACCESS ON THE RESIDENTIAL ROAD.

7795
06:32:17,547 --> 06:32:19,549
>> SHE SAID IT IS

7796
06:32:19,549 --> 06:32:23,149
AGAINST THE ZONING. >> YES, THANK YOU

7797
06:32:23,553 --> 06:32:25,553
FOR THAT QUESTION.

7798
06:32:25,555 --> 06:32:26,556
>> SHE CAN CONFIRM THAT. >> I THINK

7799
06:32:26,556 --> 06:32:28,556
FOCUSING

7800
06:32:29,559 --> 06:32:31,559
ON THAT LANGUAGE

7801
06:32:32,562 --> 06:32:34,562
AND THAT PROVISION ,

7802
06:32:35,565 --> 06:32:37,565
I DID

7803
06:32:37,567 --> 06:32:38,568
WHEN READING THAT LANGUAGE HAVE A

7804
06:32:38,568 --> 06:32:40,968
DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF WHAT

7805
06:32:41,538 --> 06:32:42,539
THAT MEANS.

7806
06:32:42,539 --> 06:32:44,541
I CAN READ THAT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY, FROM

7807
06:32:44,541 --> 06:32:45,542
THE CODE FOR THE BOARD SO YOU CAN

7808
06:32:45,542 --> 06:32:47,544
PERHAPS, DISCUSS. THIS IS FROM THE

7809
06:32:47,544 --> 06:32:49,544
ZONING CODE 59-

7810
06:32:50,547 --> 06:32:52,547
6.1.4 POINT

7811
06:32:53,550 --> 06:32:56,553
LETTER E IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW ALONG.

7812
06:32:56,553 --> 06:32:58,553
IT SAYS

7813
06:32:58,555 --> 06:32:59,556
, UNLESS THE ROAD IS CLASSIFIED AS A

7814
06:32:59,556 --> 06:33:01,556
RESIDENTIAL ROAD,

7815
06:33:02,559 --> 06:33:05,562
A VEHICLE MUST ACCESS A CORNER LOT WITH ONLY

7816
06:33:05,562 --> 06:33:06,563
ONE DRIVEWAY OR THROUGH A LOT FROM THE STREET WITH

7817
06:33:06,563 --> 06:33:08,565
THE LOWER ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION.

7818
06:33:08,565 --> 06:33:10,565
SO,

7819
06:33:11,568 --> 06:33:14,538
THE WAY I READ THAT IS THAT

7820
06:33:14,538 --> 06:33:15,539
WHEN YOU

7821
06:33:15,539 --> 06:33:19,139
ARE COMPARING TWO ROADS FOR ACCESS

7822
06:33:20,544 --> 06:33:22,546
, YOU MUST USE THE ONE WITH THE LOWER ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION

7823
06:33:22,546 --> 06:33:24,548
UNLESS THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL ROAD.

7824
06:33:24,548 --> 06:33:27,548
THAT IS TO SAY THAT

7825
06:33:27,551 --> 06:33:29,951
ACCESS IS NOT REQUIRED

7826
06:33:30,554 --> 06:33:32,556
ON THAT RESIDENTIAL ROAD. BUT,

7827
06:33:32,556 --> 06:33:35,559
I THINK THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN INTERPRETATION

7828
06:33:35,559 --> 06:33:38,562
IS THAT ACCESS IS PROHIBITED , WHERE I WOULD

7829
06:33:38,562 --> 06:33:41,565
READ THAT TO SAY, IT IS NOT REQUIRED.

7830
06:33:41,565 --> 06:33:42,566
BUT, THE BOARD CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION

7831
06:33:42,566 --> 06:33:44,566
AS TO

7832
06:33:44,568 --> 06:33:45,535
WHETHER ACCESS IS APPROPRIATE AND

7833
06:33:45,535 --> 06:33:46,536
THAT

7834
06:33:46,536 --> 06:33:49,536
IS A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. >> OKAY.

7835
06:33:50,540 --> 06:33:54,578
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE I WILL ASK

7836
06:33:54,578 --> 06:33:57,581
IT FROM THE PLANNING STAFF. ON

7837
06:33:57,581 --> 06:33:59,581
PAGE 18

7838
06:34:00,584 --> 06:34:02,584
UNDER

7839
06:34:03,587 --> 06:34:05,587
APF

7840
06:34:06,590 --> 06:34:09,593
, IT SAYS THAT 415 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, INCLUDING

7841
06:34:09,593 --> 06:34:11,593
THE COMMERCIAL WILL

7842
06:34:12,596 --> 06:34:15,599
BRING A NET INCREASE OF TRAFFIC IN

7843
06:34:15,599 --> 06:34:17,599
THE MORNING TO

7844
06:34:18,602 --> 06:34:21,200
172 AND THE NET INCREASE

7845
06:34:21,571 --> 06:34:24,574
IS 70. THAT IS THE NET INCREASE.

7846
06:34:24,574 --> 06:34:26,576
IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY DEFINE

7847
06:34:26,576 --> 06:34:29,579
HOW MANY COMES FROM WOODLAND OR HOW

7848
06:34:29,579 --> 06:34:30,580
MANY COMES FROM GEORGIA AVENUE. THAT

7849
06:34:30,580 --> 06:34:32,580
IS

7850
06:34:33,583 --> 06:34:36,586
THE TOTAL . THAT IS HOW I

7851
06:34:36,586 --> 06:34:38,986
READ IT. WE HEARD

7852
06:34:39,589 --> 06:34:41,989
A LOT OF CONCERN

7853
06:34:42,592 --> 06:34:44,592
ABOUT NEIGHBORS

7854
06:34:48,598 --> 06:34:49,599
IN REGARDS TO THE

7855
06:34:49,599 --> 06:34:51,601
400 OR 500 CARS BEING ADDED TO WOODLAND. BUT

7856
06:34:51,601 --> 06:34:53,601
, THE

7857
06:34:54,571 --> 06:34:55,572
WAY YOU ARE SAYING IT , THAT IS NOT

7858
06:34:55,572 --> 06:34:57,574
TRUE. SO, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT

7859
06:34:57,574 --> 06:34:59,574
? IS

7860
06:35:00,544 --> 06:35:03,544
THERE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION

7861
06:35:03,547 --> 06:35:05,947
OR COUNT THAT ACTUALLY

7862
06:35:06,550 --> 06:35:08,550
, COULD ESTIMATE

7863
06:35:09,553 --> 06:35:11,953
AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE

7864
06:35:12,556 --> 06:35:14,558
AS TO WHAT WOULD

7865
06:35:14,558 --> 06:35:17,561
BE THE REAL IMPACT OF THE CARS THAT

7866
06:35:17,561 --> 06:35:18,562
WILL COME INTO WOODLAND AT THE PEAK

7867
06:35:18,562 --> 06:35:19,563
HOUR IN

7868
06:35:19,563 --> 06:35:21,565
THE MORNING? IT LOOKS LIKE THE PEAK

7869
06:35:21,565 --> 06:35:24,565
HOUR IN THE MORNING IS

7870
06:35:24,568 --> 06:35:26,536
THE FIRST

7871
06:35:26,536 --> 06:35:27,537
ONE. IF 172 IS FOR THE WHOLE GARAGE, WHAT

7872
06:35:27,537 --> 06:35:29,537
IS YOUR ESTIMATE

7873
06:35:30,540 --> 06:35:32,542
FOR EACH SIDE? >> THANK YOU FOR

7874
06:35:32,542 --> 06:35:36,142
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION.

7875
06:35:36,546 --> 06:35:39,546
I AM THE REGULAR SUPERVISOR

7876
06:35:39,549 --> 06:35:41,949
FOR THE COUNTY. AS

7877
06:35:42,552 --> 06:35:44,554
YOU REFERENCED PAGES 17 AND 18

7878
06:35:44,554 --> 06:35:45,555
, THEY COVER THE ESTIMATED PEAK HOURS

7879
06:35:45,555 --> 06:35:47,555
FOR

7880
06:35:48,558 --> 06:35:50,560
THE PROJECT. THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THE SKETCH PLAN. IT

7881
06:35:50,560 --> 06:35:51,561
IS NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY. DIVIDING THE

7882
06:35:51,561 --> 06:35:53,561
ESTIMATED PEAK HOURS

7883
06:35:54,598 --> 06:35:56,600
IS CAPTURED ON THOSE TWO PAGES.

7884
06:35:56,600 --> 06:35:57,601
THE WAY WE EVALUATE TRAFFIC IN MONTGOMERY

7885
06:35:57,601 --> 06:35:59,569
COUNTY IS THROUGH

7886
06:35:59,569 --> 06:36:03,169
THE LOCAL AREA TRANSPORTATION REVIEW GUIDELINES

7887
06:36:03,573 --> 06:36:06,576
AND THAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION TEST

7888
06:36:06,576 --> 06:36:09,579
OF THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN. CURRENTLY

7889
06:36:09,579 --> 06:36:12,582
, THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN A RED POLICY AREA.

7890
06:36:12,582 --> 06:36:15,582
SO, TRIPS ARE BASICALLY ASSIGNED

7891
06:36:15,585 --> 06:36:18,588
BASED ON THE DENSITY OF A SITE.

7892
06:36:18,588 --> 06:36:21,591
ON PAGE 18 OF THE STAFF REPORT YOU SEE

7893
06:36:21,591 --> 06:36:23,591
WE HAVE EVALUATED 418

7894
06:36:24,594 --> 06:36:26,994
LOW RISE RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS

7895
06:36:27,597 --> 06:36:28,598
WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. THAT IS

7896
06:36:28,598 --> 06:36:30,600
A LAND USE CODE WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS

7897
06:36:30,600 --> 06:36:32,600
TRIP GENERATION MANUAL.

7898
06:36:33,570 --> 06:36:36,570
SO, WHAT WE DO IS

7899
06:36:36,573 --> 06:36:38,573
, WE TAKE A

7900
06:36:39,576 --> 06:36:41,976
MATHEMATICAL FORMULA , THE NUMBER

7901
06:36:42,579 --> 06:36:45,579
FROM THE I.T. THE

7902
06:36:45,582 --> 06:36:47,584
MANUAL AND IT JUST SAT DOWN TO MONTGOMERY

7903
06:36:47,584 --> 06:36:50,584
COUNTY SPECIFIC STANDARDS. THE RED

7904
06:36:50,587 --> 06:36:51,588
POLICY STANDARD HAS A SPECIFIC ADJUSTMENT

7905
06:36:51,588 --> 06:36:53,590
STANDARD WHERE WE CAN BREAK

7906
06:36:53,590 --> 06:36:54,591
OUT HOW MANY PERSON TRIPS THERE ARE. THAT

7907
06:36:54,591 --> 06:36:56,591
IS WHAT THIS

7908
06:36:57,594 --> 06:36:59,594
NUMBER REFLECTS.

7909
06:37:00,597 --> 06:37:01,598
WE LOOK AT THE 31,590 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL

7910
06:37:01,598 --> 06:37:03,600
AND DENTAL OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS

7911
06:37:03,600 --> 06:37:06,000
AN I.T. PLANNED

7912
06:37:06,569 --> 06:37:09,572
USE CODE AND THAT CURRENTLY HAS A MORNING PEAK HOUR

7913
06:37:09,572 --> 06:37:11,572
TRIP GENERATION

7914
06:37:12,575 --> 06:37:14,575
OF 106 PEDESTRIAN TRIPS

7915
06:37:15,578 --> 06:37:17,578
AND 156 PERSON TRIPS

7916
06:37:18,581 --> 06:37:20,581
IN THE EVENING.

7917
06:37:21,584 --> 06:37:22,585
SO, WE TAKE

7918
06:37:22,585 --> 06:37:24,587
THOSE OFF THE ROAD AND THAT IS PROVIDED AS

7919
06:37:24,587 --> 06:37:26,589
A CREDIT AGAINST 270 PERSON TRIPS

7920
06:37:26,589 --> 06:37:30,593
IN THE MORNING FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT

7921
06:37:30,593 --> 06:37:32,593
AND 226 IN

7922
06:37:33,596 --> 06:37:36,599
THE EVENING THAT NETS OUT TO

7923
06:37:36,599 --> 06:37:38,599
170 TRIPS

7924
06:37:39,569 --> 06:37:41,569
IN THE MORNING.

7925
06:37:42,572 --> 06:37:43,573
THE EVENING

7926
06:37:43,573 --> 06:37:45,575
FITS ARE SMALLER SUBSET OF THAT NUMBER.

7927
06:37:45,575 --> 06:37:47,575
PART OF

7928
06:37:47,577 --> 06:37:51,614
THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TWO ACCESS POINTS

7929
06:37:51,614 --> 06:37:53,616
OF GEORGIA AND WOODLAND, BASED ON THE

7930
06:37:53,616 --> 06:37:54,617
TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE AND HOW THE NETWORK

7931
06:37:54,617 --> 06:37:56,617
WORKS WITHIN

7932
06:37:57,620 --> 06:37:59,620
THE VICINITY

7933
06:38:00,623 --> 06:38:02,625
, WE FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO EVALUATE

7934
06:38:02,625 --> 06:38:03,626
THE CONCEPT AND LOOK AT IT IN MORE DETAIL WITH THE SUBSEQUENT LIMITARY SITE

7935
06:38:03,626 --> 06:38:05,626
PLAN APPLICATIONS.

7936
06:38:06,629 --> 06:38:08,629
IF

7937
06:38:08,631 --> 06:38:09,632
THE BOARD FEELS IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE,

7938
06:38:09,632 --> 06:38:12,602
WE CAN MODIFY THE CONDITIONS. >> THE

7939
06:38:12,602 --> 06:38:15,605
REASON I ASKED THIS QUESTION IS

7940
06:38:15,605 --> 06:38:17,605
OF

7941
06:38:17,607 --> 06:38:18,608
THE BOARD, IT CAN BE THAT WE ARE SITTING

7942
06:38:18,608 --> 06:38:21,800
HERE FEELING COMFORTABLE THAT

7943
06:38:21,611 --> 06:38:24,614
THE IMPACT TO WOODLAND IS CLOSE

7944
06:38:24,614 --> 06:38:27,617
TO WHAT IT IS IN THE REPORT , NOT WHAT

7945
06:38:27,617 --> 06:38:30,170
THE PERCEPTION OF THE

7946
06:38:30,620 --> 06:38:33,200
COMMUNITY IS TO BE 400

7947
06:38:33,623 --> 06:38:36,230
OR 500. THAT IS AN

7948
06:38:36,626 --> 06:38:39,629
IMPORTANT CONCEPT BECAUSE A LOT OF

7949
06:38:39,629 --> 06:38:42,632
THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS HERE WERE CONCERNED THAT

7950
06:38:42,632 --> 06:38:45,632
THEY THINK THESE 500 CARS ARE

7951
06:38:45,635 --> 06:38:47,604
GOING TO COME TO WOODLAND. BUT

7952
06:38:47,604 --> 06:38:51,204
, THAT IS MAYBE JUST A PERCEPTION

7953
06:38:51,608 --> 06:38:53,610
AND NOT THE REALITY. >> YES, AND ACTUALLY

7954
06:38:53,610 --> 06:38:54,611
IF I COULD CLARIFY ONE ADDITIONAL

7955
06:38:54,611 --> 06:38:57,614
POINT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE

7956
06:38:57,614 --> 06:39:00,617
PEAK HOUR TRIP GENERATION FOR THE

7957
06:39:00,617 --> 06:39:02,617
USE. SO,

7958
06:39:03,620 --> 06:39:05,622
ALL 500 PARKING SPACES WOULD NOT BE COMING

7959
06:39:05,622 --> 06:39:06,623
AND GOING AT THE SAME HOUR. THERE IS

7960
06:39:06,623 --> 06:39:08,623
A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE

7961
06:39:08,625 --> 06:39:09,626
GOING TO WORK AND OTHERS COMING OFF SHIFTWORK.

7962
06:39:09,626 --> 06:39:12,626
THAT IS HOW THAT IS

7963
06:39:12,629 --> 06:39:15,632
EVALUATED. >> WE DID DO THAT CALCULATION.

7964
06:39:15,632 --> 06:39:17,632
IT IS INCLUDED

7965
06:39:17,634 --> 06:39:21,834
AS AN ATTACHMENT TO MY LETTER YESTERDAY

7966
06:39:23,606 --> 06:39:24,607
. FOR THAT VERY POINT, WE DON'T REALLY NEED

7967
06:39:24,607 --> 06:39:26,609
TO. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO, BUT KNOWING

7968
06:39:26,609 --> 06:39:27,610
THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUESTION, AND

7969
06:39:27,610 --> 06:39:31,614
AS YOU WILL SEE IN THOSE MATERIALS, THE VEHICLE TRIPS WOULD BE EXPECTED

7970
06:39:31,614 --> 06:39:33,616
TO BE 85 IN THE A.M. AND 35 IN

7971
06:39:33,616 --> 06:39:37,620
THE P.M. WE CAN'T BREAK IT DOWN WOODLAND

7972
06:39:37,620 --> 06:39:39,620
VERSUS GEORGIA

7973
06:39:39,622 --> 06:39:43,626
, BUT THAT IS WHAT THE DATA SAYS. >>

7974
06:39:43,626 --> 06:39:45,626
COMMISSIONER BARTLEY

7975
06:39:45,628 --> 06:39:48,628
? >> I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM

7976
06:39:49,632 --> 06:39:52,320
THE FOREST GROVE CITIZENS

7977
06:39:54,637 --> 06:39:55,638
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT

7978
06:39:55,638 --> 06:39:56,639
OUR COUNTY IS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY INTERESTED, SMART

7979
06:39:56,639 --> 06:39:57,640
PEOPLE THAT I'M SURROUNDED BY EVERYDAY. ONE

7980
06:39:57,640 --> 06:39:59,642
OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS

7981
06:39:59,642 --> 06:40:01,644
THAT EVERYBODY SHARED AN INDIVIDUAL

7982
06:40:01,644 --> 06:40:03,646
STORY THAT WASN'T STAGED

7983
06:40:03,646 --> 06:40:07,650
, BUT WAS SINCERE AND FROM THE HEART.

7984
06:40:07,650 --> 06:40:08,651
I

7985
06:40:08,651 --> 06:40:10,653
LIVE NORTH OF 200 AND MY OFFICE IS

7986
06:40:10,653 --> 06:40:11,654
IN DOWNTOWN SILVER SPRING AND

7987
06:40:11,654 --> 06:40:13,656
I HAVE TO DRIVE GEORGIA AVENUE EVERY DAY.

7988
06:40:13,656 --> 06:40:16,560
MR. JEFFREY IRVING DESCRIBE

7989
06:40:16,659 --> 06:40:19,659
THAT INTERSECTION ACCURATELY . IT IS

7990
06:40:19,662 --> 06:40:20,663
A NIGHTMARE.

7991
06:40:20,663 --> 06:40:22,665
WHEN I GET STUCK THERE IN THE FAR

7992
06:40:22,665 --> 06:40:25,668
LEFT LANE NEXT TO THE MEDIAN AND I

7993
06:40:25,668 --> 06:40:26,636
SEE SOMEBODY

7994
06:40:26,636 --> 06:40:27,637
CROSSING THE STREET, I ALWAYS SAY

7995
06:40:27,637 --> 06:40:29,639
A SMALL PRAYER FOR THEM BECAUSE I KNOW

7996
06:40:29,639 --> 06:40:31,641
HOW DAUNTING IT IS TO CROSS THAT.

7997
06:40:31,641 --> 06:40:33,643
GOD FOR BID, IF I AM SITTING

7998
06:40:33,643 --> 06:40:36,646
AT THE LIGHT AND A FIRE TRUCK OR AMBULANCE

7999
06:40:36,646 --> 06:40:40,650
COMES BY IT CREATES ANOTHER TRAFFIC JAM.

8000
06:40:40,650 --> 06:40:43,500
BUT, IN PARTICULAR THE

8001
06:40:43,653 --> 06:40:46,530
OFFRAMP AND ON RAMPS

8002
06:40:46,656 --> 06:40:48,656
OF 495 CREATE ANOTHER

8003
06:40:49,659 --> 06:40:50,660
QUAGMIRE. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE

8004
06:40:50,660 --> 06:40:52,662
WHAT 400 OR 500 OTHER CARS CAN DO

8005
06:40:52,662 --> 06:40:54,662
TO THAT SITUATION

8006
06:40:55,665 --> 06:40:58,665
IN INCREASING THE CONGESTION THERE.

8007
06:40:58,668 --> 06:41:01,680
ALSO, WHAT IS INTERESTING

8008
06:41:03,640 --> 06:41:04,641
IS THAT I HAVE NEVER REROUTED THROUGH YOUR

8009
06:41:04,641 --> 06:41:06,643
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE

8010
06:41:06,643 --> 06:41:07,644
IF YOU ARE OUT TRYING TO TEACH A CHILD HOW

8011
06:41:07,644 --> 06:41:08,645
TO RIDE A

8012
06:41:08,645 --> 06:41:10,647
BIKE ON WOODLAND AVENUE WHERE THERE IS NO CURRENT PARALLEL PARKING AND

8013
06:41:10,647 --> 06:41:12,649
THERE IS NO INGRESS OR EGRESS

8014
06:41:12,649 --> 06:41:16,653
FROM THE MEDICAL CENTER HOW THAT COULD CAUSE

8015
06:41:16,653 --> 06:41:17,654
DEEP CONCERN AND WORRY.

8016
06:41:17,654 --> 06:41:19,656
ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO

8017
06:41:19,656 --> 06:41:21,656
WAS HEARING

8018
06:41:22,659 --> 06:41:23,660
FROM JB PARKER

8019
06:41:23,660 --> 06:41:25,662
WHO HAS SO NOBLY TAKEN ON THE OPPORTUNITY

8020
06:41:25,662 --> 06:41:27,664
TO DEVELOP THE SITE

8021
06:41:27,664 --> 06:41:31,668
TO TRY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THRIVE

8022
06:41:31,668 --> 06:41:32,635
250 AND THE EDICTS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL.

8023
06:41:32,635 --> 06:41:34,637
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU

8024
06:41:34,637 --> 06:41:35,638
ON HOW

8025
06:41:35,638 --> 06:41:37,640
YOU COULD OVERCOME THE CONCERNS OF

8026
06:41:37,640 --> 06:41:39,642
THE CITIZENS AND WHETHER OR NOT THE

8027
06:41:39,642 --> 06:41:42,642
CITIZENS CONCERNS WERE LESS IMPORTANT

8028
06:41:43,646 --> 06:41:45,646
THAN FUTURE CITIZENS

8029
06:41:45,648 --> 06:41:46,649
CONCERNS. WHAT I MEAN BY FUTURE CITIZENS ARE THE

8030
06:41:46,649 --> 06:41:48,651
PEOPLE THAT WILL OCCUPY

8031
06:41:48,651 --> 06:41:52,251
THAT SPACE SHOULD IT BE DEVELOPED.

8032
06:41:52,689 --> 06:41:55,689
SOMETIMES, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE

8033
06:41:55,692 --> 06:41:56,693
THE NEEDS AND

8034
06:41:56,693 --> 06:41:57,694
WANTS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE

8035
06:41:57,694 --> 06:41:58,695
NOW AND THE POSSIBILITY OF CITIZENS

8036
06:41:58,695 --> 06:42:01,695
THAT WILL OCCUPY THAT SPACE

8037
06:42:01,698 --> 06:42:04,701
LATER. WHAT I DID HERE FROM

8038
06:42:04,701 --> 06:42:05,702
JB PARTNERS AND THEIR

8039
06:42:05,702 --> 06:42:07,670
LEARNED COUNSEL , AARON GERARD IS

8040
06:42:07,670 --> 06:42:10,700
AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL

8041
06:42:10,673 --> 06:42:13,676
WANTS IT AND THE COUNCIL SAID IT

8042
06:42:13,676 --> 06:42:15,678
IS A RED POLICY AREA AND IT COULD

8043
06:42:15,678 --> 06:42:16,679
POTENTIALLY, HAVE THE DENSITY HIGHER

8044
06:42:16,679 --> 06:42:18,679
THAN WHAT

8045
06:42:19,682 --> 06:42:20,683
YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING. I

8046
06:42:20,683 --> 06:42:24,283
THINK YOU NOTABLY REDUCE THE CAPACITY

8047
06:42:25,688 --> 06:42:26,689
KNOWING THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME PUSHBACK FROM THE

8048
06:42:26,689 --> 06:42:27,690
COMMUNITY, BUT I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH WHAT

8049
06:42:27,690 --> 06:42:28,691
I HEARD FROM AARON GERARD, SAYING

8050
06:42:28,691 --> 06:42:31,910
THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL

8051
06:42:31,694 --> 06:42:34,697
WANTS IT. THERE IS A BALANCE YOU HAVE

8052
06:42:34,697 --> 06:42:35,698
TO STRIKE. SOMETIMES

8053
06:42:35,698 --> 06:42:37,700
POLITICIANS WANT THINGS IN CONSTITUENTS

8054
06:42:37,700 --> 06:42:39,669
WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

8055
06:42:39,669 --> 06:42:40,670
POLITICIANS ARE VOTED INTO OFFICE TO

8056
06:42:40,670 --> 06:42:42,670
BE THE VOICE

8057
06:42:43,673 --> 06:42:44,674
OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS REGARDLESS OF

8058
06:42:44,674 --> 06:42:46,676
WHAT THEIR CONSTITUENTS FEEL IN REGARDS

8059
06:42:46,676 --> 06:42:49,679
TO A CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE. I AM STRONGLY PERSUADED BY THE

8060
06:42:49,679 --> 06:42:51,681
CITIZENS HERE THAT THEIR

8061
06:42:51,681 --> 06:42:52,682
CONCERNS MIGHT OUTWEIGH THE DENSITY

8062
06:42:52,682 --> 06:42:54,682
REQUIREMENT

8063
06:42:55,685 --> 06:42:57,685
FOR FUTURE CITIZENS .

8064
06:42:57,687 --> 06:43:01,691
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM JB PARTNERS

8065
06:43:01,691 --> 06:43:03,693
AS TO HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD OVERRIDE THE CONCERNS

8066
06:43:03,693 --> 06:43:04,694
OF THE CITIZENS THAT APPEARED HERE, TODAY.

8067
06:43:04,694 --> 06:43:06,694
>> CERTAINLY.

8068
06:43:13,669 --> 06:43:15,669
>> THIS IS AN

8069
06:43:15,671 --> 06:43:18,671
INTERESTING QUESTION. TRYING TO BALANCE

8070
06:43:19,675 --> 06:43:22,675
SECTOR PLAN WITH EMERGING GOALS

8071
06:43:22,679 --> 06:43:24,681
AND PUTTING PEOPLE ON

8072
06:43:24,681 --> 06:43:25,682
TOP OF METRO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING

8073
06:43:25,682 --> 06:43:27,682
, TRAFFIC IS A

8074
06:43:27,684 --> 06:43:28,684
MAJOR ISSUE. NO ONE IS GOING TO TRY

8075
06:43:28,684 --> 06:43:30,684
TO

8076
06:43:31,687 --> 06:43:34,870
DIMINISH THAT. TRYING TO

8077
06:43:34,690 --> 06:43:36,690
ACCOMMODATE FUTURE RESIDENCE

8078
06:43:38,694 --> 06:43:40,697
TO BE ABLE TO GET GROCERIES AND MOVE AROUND

8079
06:43:40,697 --> 06:43:42,699
THE COUNTY WHILE TAKING

8080
06:43:42,699 --> 06:43:43,700
MASS TRANSIT AND BUS TRAFFIC TRANSIT

8081
06:43:43,700 --> 06:43:45,700
AND

8082
06:43:46,669 --> 06:43:49,690
USING THEIR COURSE MAYBE

8083
06:43:49,705 --> 06:43:52,708
NOT ALL THE TIME ON WEEKENDS

8084
06:43:52,708 --> 06:43:55,711
IS ONE OF THE OVERARCHING AND HARD PARTS ABOUT WHAT

8085
06:43:55,711 --> 06:43:58,715
I DO. THIS SITE IS ONE OF THE MOST

8086
06:43:58,715 --> 06:44:01,715
CHALLENGING FIGHTS EVER WORK ON.

8087
06:44:01,718 --> 06:44:03,720
THE QUESTION IS A GREAT ONE.

8088
06:44:03,720 --> 06:44:04,720
I SAT THROUGH ALL OF THIS TESTIMONY

8089
06:44:04,720 --> 06:44:06,720
TRYING

8090
06:44:07,723 --> 06:44:08,691
TO UNDERSTAND

8091
06:44:08,691 --> 06:44:10,693
AND THE OVERARCHING QUESTION TO MYSELF

8092
06:44:10,693 --> 06:44:12,693
IS WHAT IS

8093
06:44:13,696 --> 06:44:15,696
THE PARKING RATIO?

8094
06:44:15,698 --> 06:44:16,699
I WILL GO BACK AND TRY TO REDUCE THAT

8095
06:44:16,699 --> 06:44:18,701
DOWN. WE DID A PROJECT IN TWIN

8096
06:44:18,701 --> 06:44:21,671
BROOKS ON TOP OF THE METRO AND WE

8097
06:44:21,671 --> 06:44:22,672
ENDED UP UNDER PARKING IT. IT WAS

8098
06:44:22,672 --> 06:44:24,672
PARKED AT 1.2.

8099
06:44:24,674 --> 06:44:29,474
THERE IS A GROCERY STORE RIGHT NEXT DOOR

8100
06:44:29,679 --> 06:44:31,681
I HAVE BEEN USING THAT AS A BASIS.

8101
06:44:31,681 --> 06:44:34,684
IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE BASIS? I AM NOT

8102
06:44:34,684 --> 06:44:36,684
SURE ANYMORE.

8103
06:44:49,699 --> 06:44:52,702
I AM HEARING THE CITIZENS AND

8104
06:44:52,702 --> 06:44:53,669
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW

8105
06:44:53,669 --> 06:44:55,671
TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE RESIDENCE AND WHAT THEY

8106
06:44:55,671 --> 06:44:57,671
WOULD NEED ,

8107
06:44:57,673 --> 06:45:01,677
THE GOALS OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD

8108
06:45:01,677 --> 06:45:04,677
AND YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT

8109
06:45:04,680 --> 06:45:05,681
THAT WE WILL LOOK AND PROBABLY

8110
06:45:05,681 --> 06:45:07,683
REDUCE PARKING IF WE CAN GET THAT FAR.

8111
06:45:07,683 --> 06:45:10,686
I AM NOT SURE IT IS A D.C. PARKING RATIO

8112
06:45:10,686 --> 06:45:13,686
OF .5. THAT SEEMS EXTREME TO

8113
06:45:13,689 --> 06:45:16,692
ME, BUT IT IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT WE

8114
06:45:16,692 --> 06:45:18,692
HAVE TODAY.

8115
06:45:19,695 --> 06:45:22,698
I THINK LOOKING AT IT, ONE THING WE TRY

8116
06:45:22,698 --> 06:45:24,700
TO COMMIT TO IS WORKING ON ,

8117
06:45:24,700 --> 06:45:25,701
NOT WHEN I DIFFER TRAFFIC OR ONE IDEA

8118
06:45:25,701 --> 06:45:27,670
OF PARKING

8119
06:45:27,670 --> 06:45:28,671
, OR ONE SILVER BULLET TO SOLVE ALL

8120
06:45:28,671 --> 06:45:30,671
OF THIS.

8121
06:45:31,674 --> 06:45:34,740
IT IS A MULTI-

8122
06:45:34,677 --> 06:45:36,677
MODAL CONGLOMERATE

8123
06:45:36,679 --> 06:45:37,680
OF THE IDEAS THAT ARE GOING TO COME

8124
06:45:37,680 --> 06:45:39,680
TOGETHER TO MAKE

8125
06:45:40,683 --> 06:45:42,683
THIS PROJECT

8126
06:45:42,685 --> 06:45:43,686
BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. THAT IS MY COMMITMENT

8127
06:45:43,686 --> 06:45:46,689
AND WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON TO THE

8128
06:45:46,689 --> 06:45:49,725
NEXT PHASES. >> I WOULD JUST ADD ON

8129
06:45:49,725 --> 06:45:51,725
TO THAT ,

8130
06:45:51,727 --> 06:45:52,728
AT THE END OF THE REPORT WAS SUBMITTED YESTERDAY

8131
06:45:52,728 --> 06:45:55,128
WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED

8132
06:45:55,731 --> 06:45:58,734
TO OUTLINE THINGS FOR TRAFFIC MITIGATION THAT COULD

8133
06:45:58,734 --> 06:46:01,704
HAPPEN ON SITE. YOU KNOW,

8134
06:46:01,704 --> 06:46:04,707
HAVING A COORDINATOR ON SITE GIVING PREFERENCE

8135
06:46:04,707 --> 06:46:07,710
TO PEOPLE WHO WORK AT HOLY CROSS

8136
06:46:07,710 --> 06:46:10,713
AND THERE WERE OTHER ONES. REALLY EMPHASIZING BIKES

8137
06:46:10,713 --> 06:46:13,713
AND HAVING GOOD BIKE STORAGE.

8138
06:46:13,716 --> 06:46:15,716
AND,

8139
06:46:16,719 --> 06:46:20,723
TRAFFIC CALMING AND THERE WERE IDEAS WE OUTLINED

8140
06:46:20,723 --> 06:46:23,726
FOR THAT. IT IS VERY EARLY IN

8141
06:46:23,726 --> 06:46:24,727
THE STAGE , BUT WE DID

8142
06:46:24,727 --> 06:46:25,728
PUT THERE ON THEIR IN RECOGNITION

8143
06:46:25,728 --> 06:46:26,729
OF WHAT YOU ARE GETTING AT, THAT THERE

8144
06:46:26,729 --> 06:46:27,730
NEEDS TO BE A

8145
06:46:27,730 --> 06:46:31,330
BALANCE. >> JUST GOING BACK TO TRAFFIC

8146
06:46:31,734 --> 06:46:32,735
AND THE CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS,

8147
06:46:32,735 --> 06:46:34,704
WHAT

8148
06:46:34,704 --> 06:46:37,707
DOES STAFF THINK ABOUT A SINGLE ENTRANCE OR

8149
06:46:37,707 --> 06:46:40,707
MULTIPLE ENTRANCE ON GEORGIA AVENUE

8150
06:46:40,710 --> 06:46:44,714
AND NOT HAVING AN ENTRANCE ON WOODLAWN? >>

8151
06:46:44,714 --> 06:46:47,714
AGAIN, MATT FOR THE RECORD.

8152
06:46:48,718 --> 06:46:49,719
AS I SAID, WE WERE KEEPING OPEN THE OPTIONS

8153
06:46:49,719 --> 06:46:50,720
OF LOOKING AT WOODLAND DRIVE AND GEORGIA AVENUE. I

8154
06:46:50,720 --> 06:46:52,720
WANT

8155
06:46:53,723 --> 06:46:55,725
TO START OUT BY SAYING THAT

8156
06:46:55,725 --> 06:46:56,726
IT IS AN EXCESS MANAGEMENT CONCEPT. HAVING

8157
06:46:56,726 --> 06:46:58,726
ACCESS ON FOREST

8158
06:46:59,729 --> 06:47:02,732
GLEN, WE HAVE SAID IS PROHIBITED

8159
06:47:02,732 --> 06:47:03,733
BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT SECTION AND HIGHLY CONGESTED. HAVING THE ACCESS

8160
06:47:03,733 --> 06:47:05,735
POINT IN THE SECTOR PLAN RECOMMENDS

8161
06:47:05,735 --> 06:47:07,703
ON GEORGIA AVENUE AND

8162
06:47:07,703 --> 06:47:08,704
MOVING FARTHER NORTH THAN WHERE THE

8163
06:47:08,704 --> 06:47:10,704
CURRENT ACCESS POINT

8164
06:47:11,707 --> 06:47:14,710
IS TODAY , THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

8165
06:47:14,710 --> 06:47:15,711
HAVING AN ACCESS POINT ON

8166
06:47:15,711 --> 06:47:17,713
GEORGIA AVENUE WOULD WORK FOR THE PROJECT.

8167
06:47:17,713 --> 06:47:19,715
IT WAS SOMETHING WE

8168
06:47:19,715 --> 06:47:22,718
WERE LOOKING AT INTO THE FUTURE ,

8169
06:47:22,718 --> 06:47:23,719
AS FAR AS FURTHER ANALYSIS. >> WE

8170
06:47:23,719 --> 06:47:25,719
ARE SUPPOSED

8171
06:47:26,722 --> 06:47:29,122
TO DETERMINE ACCESS TODAY.

8172
06:47:31,727 --> 06:47:32,728
SO, WHAT HAVING ONE ACCESS POINT ON GEORGIA AVENUE

8173
06:47:32,728 --> 06:47:33,729
WORK? >> I

8174
06:47:33,729 --> 06:47:36,129
BELIEVE IT WOULD. >> [ APPLAUSE ]

8175
06:47:38,734 --> 06:47:40,734
>>

8176
06:47:44,707 --> 06:47:46,742
CLOSING WOODLAND AND HAVING AN

8177
06:47:46,742 --> 06:47:49,745
ACCESS POINT ON GEORGIA , WE HAVE

8178
06:47:49,745 --> 06:47:53,345
AND APPLICATION THAT WOULD ONLY HAVE

8179
06:47:53,749 --> 06:47:55,751
FRONTAGE ON A MAJOR ROADWAY.

8180
06:47:55,751 --> 06:47:56,752
IF WE HAD AND APPLICATION THAT ONLY

8181
06:47:56,752 --> 06:47:58,752
HAD ACCESS

8182
06:47:59,755 --> 06:48:00,756
POINT ON GEORGIA

8183
06:48:00,756 --> 06:48:02,758
AVENUE, I THINK WE COULD WORK WITH

8184
06:48:02,758 --> 06:48:03,759
THAT. >> THAT IS LOADING

8185
06:48:03,759 --> 06:48:05,761
AND DELIVERIES AND EVERYTHING, CORRECT?

8186
06:48:05,761 --> 06:48:07,761
>> YES. >> [

8187
06:48:08,764 --> 06:48:10,764
APPLAUSE ]

8188
06:48:11,767 --> 06:48:13,767
>>

8189
06:48:14,737 --> 06:48:15,738
I THINK OUR

8190
06:48:15,738 --> 06:48:17,740
TRAFFIC ENGINEER WOULD HAVE SOME THOUGHTS

8191
06:48:17,740 --> 06:48:18,741
ON THAT, AS WELL. ARE YOU

8192
06:48:18,741 --> 06:48:20,743
WILLING TO HEAR THEM? >> THE QUESTION

8193
06:48:20,743 --> 06:48:22,745
FOR YOU IS WHETHER

8194
06:48:22,745 --> 06:48:26,749
YOU WANT A DECISION TODAY OR NOT .

8195
06:48:26,749 --> 06:48:27,750
DO

8196
06:48:27,750 --> 06:48:29,752
YOU WANT YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO RESPOND

8197
06:48:29,752 --> 06:48:31,754
TO SOME OF THE THINGS WE

8198
06:48:31,754 --> 06:48:32,755
ARE GOING TO SAY TODAY? OR, DO YOU

8199
06:48:32,755 --> 06:48:34,755
WANT A

8200
06:48:35,758 --> 06:48:38,158
DECISION TODAY? >> CERTAINLY , WE

8201
06:48:38,761 --> 06:48:39,762
WOULD LIKE BOTH. WE

8202
06:48:39,762 --> 06:48:41,764
WOULD LIKE FOR OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO GIVE

8203
06:48:41,764 --> 06:48:43,764
YOU HIS THOUGHTS.

8204
06:48:44,767 --> 06:48:47,167
HONESTLY , THAT CAUGHT US

8205
06:48:47,737 --> 06:48:50,740
BY SURPRISE. ONE OF THE VERY FIRST

8206
06:48:50,740 --> 06:48:52,740
MEETINGS WE HAD

8207
06:48:59,749 --> 06:49:01,749
, THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

8208
06:49:14,764 --> 06:49:16,764
COMMISSIONER PINERO?

8209
06:49:17,767 --> 06:49:20,167
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

8210
06:49:20,736 --> 06:49:22,736
I LIKE WHAT

8211
06:49:22,738 --> 06:49:23,739
JLB IS SAYING IN TERMS OF REDUCING

8212
06:49:23,739 --> 06:49:25,739
THE NUMBER

8213
06:49:26,742 --> 06:49:29,742
OF PARKING BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY

8214
06:49:29,745 --> 06:49:30,746
MAKES SENSE . THE IDEA OF HAVING

8215
06:49:30,746 --> 06:49:32,748
THE DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE METRO

8216
06:49:32,748 --> 06:49:34,748
WITH HIGHER

8217
06:49:34,750 --> 06:49:37,753
DENSITY, WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNCIL

8218
06:49:37,753 --> 06:49:38,754
IS RECOMMENDING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN

8219
06:49:38,754 --> 06:49:41,154
TAKE THE METRO AND

8220
06:49:41,757 --> 06:49:43,759
CAN WALK. IF THE

8221
06:49:43,759 --> 06:49:47,797
TIMING OF THE TUNNEL AND THE DROP-OFF WORKS

8222
06:49:47,797 --> 06:49:49,797
WITH

8223
06:49:49,799 --> 06:49:53,999
THE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT IS IDEAL.

8224
06:49:56,772 --> 06:49:59,775
I UNDERSTAND WHAT JLB IS SAYING

8225
06:49:59,775 --> 06:50:02,778
, THAT THEY NEED TO TALK TO A

8226
06:50:02,778 --> 06:50:05,781
TRAFFIC ENGINEER , BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM

8227
06:50:05,781 --> 06:50:07,781
TO FIND

8228
06:50:08,784 --> 06:50:10,784
A WAY THAT

8229
06:50:11,787 --> 06:50:14,790
THEY CAN USE THE ACCESS ON GEORGIA AVENUE

8230
06:50:14,790 --> 06:50:17,790
. THAT WAY, WE CAN BALANCE

8231
06:50:17,793 --> 06:50:19,795
THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

8232
06:50:19,795 --> 06:50:20,796
I MEAN, THE CONCERNS THE COMMUNITY HAS

8233
06:50:20,796 --> 06:50:22,796
,

8234
06:50:23,799 --> 06:50:26,769
IT LOOKS LIKE WOODLAND DRIVE IS THE CONCERN.

8235
06:50:26,769 --> 06:50:28,771
I THINK THAT IS HOW

8236
06:50:28,771 --> 06:50:32,775
I FEEL. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT

8237
06:50:32,775 --> 06:50:35,775
THE CONCERNS THE COMMUNITY HAS.

8238
06:50:35,778 --> 06:50:38,781
OUR ROLE AS THE BOARD MEMBERS IS

8239
06:50:38,781 --> 06:50:40,781
TO BALANCE . ON

8240
06:50:41,784 --> 06:50:43,784
THE ONE HAND,

8241
06:50:43,786 --> 06:50:44,787
WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE HOUSING IN

8242
06:50:44,787 --> 06:50:45,788
THE COUNTY. THAT HAS BEEN

8243
06:50:45,788 --> 06:50:47,790
EXPRESSED, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CLOSE

8244
06:50:47,790 --> 06:50:49,790
TO METRO

8245
06:50:50,793 --> 06:50:51,794
. THAT IS OUR POLICY. ON THE OTHER HAND,

8246
06:50:51,794 --> 06:50:53,796
WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SAFETY ISSUE

8247
06:50:53,796 --> 06:50:55,796
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD .

8248
06:50:56,799 --> 06:50:59,802
THAT IS HOW I FEEL. >> THANK YOU.

8249
06:50:59,802 --> 06:51:00,769
>> A

8250
06:51:00,769 --> 06:51:02,771
COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST,

8251
06:51:02,771 --> 06:51:04,771
ON THE PARKING

8252
06:51:05,774 --> 06:51:08,777
, WE HAVE CHEWED ALL OF THAT

8253
06:51:08,777 --> 06:51:09,778
ALL

8254
06:51:09,778 --> 06:51:11,780
WE WANT TO. I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT REDUCING THE PARKING

8255
06:51:11,780 --> 06:51:14,180
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

8256
06:51:14,783 --> 06:51:17,786
THE SECOND THING IS, DOES THE

8257
06:51:17,786 --> 06:51:19,786
TRAFFIC ENGINEER

8258
06:51:23,792 --> 06:51:25,792
APPEAR HERE NOW?

8259
06:51:26,795 --> 06:51:29,195
CAN WE GET A

8260
06:51:29,798 --> 06:51:32,801
62nd ARE 92nd VERSION ON ACCESS TO WOODLAND DRIVE?

8261
06:51:32,801 --> 06:51:33,769
THAT IS PROBABLY A

8262
06:51:33,769 --> 06:51:34,770
LOT FOR THIS WHEN THERE IS GEORGIA

8263
06:51:34,770 --> 06:51:35,771
AVENUE RIGHT THERE. IS THERE SOME

8264
06:51:35,771 --> 06:51:37,771
SORT OF COMPROMISE

8265
06:51:37,773 --> 06:51:38,774
THAT COULD GET THE INSTITUTIONAL NEEDS

8266
06:51:38,774 --> 06:51:40,774
OF THE

8267
06:51:41,777 --> 06:51:43,777
BUILDING SERVED ?

8268
06:51:44,813 --> 06:51:46,813
I WOULD LIKE

8269
06:51:47,816 --> 06:51:50,819
TO HAVE THE 62nd VERSION. >> FOR THE RECORD

8270
06:51:50,819 --> 06:51:53,822
, JUST A COUPLE QUICK POINTS REGARDING THE

8271
06:51:53,822 --> 06:51:56,825
ACCESS LOCATION. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE

8272
06:51:56,825 --> 06:51:59,828
IN THE CODE AND WHAT THAT SAYS

8273
06:51:59,828 --> 06:52:01,830
ABOUT ACCESS BEING FROM

8274
06:52:01,830 --> 06:52:02,831
A LOWER CLASSIFICATION CODE. THERE IS

8275
06:52:02,831 --> 06:52:04,831
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE

8276
06:52:05,834 --> 06:52:08,804
IN THE COUNTIES NEW STREET GUIDELINES

8277
06:52:08,804 --> 06:52:11,807
THAT SAYS, ACCESS TO LOWER CLASSIFICATION STREETS SHOULD

8278
06:52:11,807 --> 06:52:13,809
BE PRIORITIZED PER THE POLICY.

8279
06:52:13,809 --> 06:52:17,409
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CLASSIFICATION,

8280
06:52:17,813 --> 06:52:20,213
MARYLAND 97 IS ARTERIAL AND

8281
06:52:20,816 --> 06:52:22,818
WOODLAND IS A LOCAL ROAD. THE POLICY SAID WE

8282
06:52:22,818 --> 06:52:23,819
SHOULD BE HAVING AN ACCESS FROM WOODLAND.

8283
06:52:23,819 --> 06:52:25,819
THAT LANGUAGE

8284
06:52:26,822 --> 06:52:30,826
IS SPECIFIC TO THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO

8285
06:52:30,826 --> 06:52:31,827
STATE, FEDERAL AND OTHER LOCAL

8286
06:52:31,827 --> 06:52:33,829
JURISDICTIONS HAVE CONSISTENT LANGUAGE

8287
06:52:33,829 --> 06:52:36,829
THAT TALKS ABOUT HAVING ACCESS

8288
06:52:36,832 --> 06:52:38,834
MANAGEMENT FOR BEST PRACTICES BEING FROM LOWER CLASSIFICATION

8289
06:52:38,834 --> 06:52:42,805
ROADWAYS. THAT IS POINT NUMBER ONE. POINT

8290
06:52:42,805 --> 06:52:43,806
NUMBER TWO

8291
06:52:43,806 --> 06:52:44,807
, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AXIS ON

8292
06:52:44,807 --> 06:52:46,809
GEORGIA AVENUE, THAT IS RIGHT IN AND

8293
06:52:46,809 --> 06:52:48,811
WRITE OUT ACCESS, THAT IS NOT GOING

8294
06:52:48,811 --> 06:52:50,813
TO GIVE FULL MOVEMENT

8295
06:52:50,813 --> 06:52:52,815
GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION OF

8296
06:52:52,815 --> 06:52:54,817
FOREST GLEN. SO, WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING

8297
06:52:54,817 --> 06:52:56,817
IN CREATING THAT

8298
06:52:57,820 --> 06:53:00,820
AXIS IS THAT ALL TRAFFIC

8299
06:53:01,824 --> 06:53:02,825
LEAVING THE SITE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A

8300
06:53:02,825 --> 06:53:03,826
U-TURN ON GEORGIA AVENUE. GEORGIA AVENUE

8301
06:53:03,826 --> 06:53:04,827
IS THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION. IT IS RELATIVELY

8302
06:53:04,827 --> 06:53:06,829
HIGH SPEED ROAD IN THE FIRST PLACE

8303
06:53:06,829 --> 06:53:08,831
TO MAKE A U-TURN

8304
06:53:08,831 --> 06:53:12,835
600 FEET TO THE NORTH ON TILTON DRIVE.

8305
06:53:12,835 --> 06:53:16,435
THAT DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNAL.

8306
06:53:24,780 --> 06:53:25,781
THAT IS NOT A SAFE

8307
06:53:25,781 --> 06:53:27,783
MANEUVER. THE NEXT LOCATION TO DO

8308
06:53:27,783 --> 06:53:29,783
IT AT

8309
06:53:30,786 --> 06:53:33,789
A SIGNALED INTERSECTION WOULD BE AT

8310
06:53:33,789 --> 06:53:36,189
AUGUST DRIVE , WHICH IS

8311
06:53:36,792 --> 06:53:39,792
ABOUT 715 FEET TO THE NORTH.

8312
06:53:39,795 --> 06:53:42,795
THAT SIGNAL DOES NOT HAVE

8313
06:53:42,831 --> 06:53:45,834
A PHASE FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE

8314
06:53:45,834 --> 06:53:46,802
EQUIPMENT. IT DOES

8315
06:53:46,802 --> 06:53:47,803
HAVE A LIEN, BUT THERE IS NO PHASE

8316
06:53:47,803 --> 06:53:48,804
IV IT. YOU ARE ASKING VEHICLES TO

8317
06:53:48,804 --> 06:53:50,804
U-TURN WITHOUT PROTECTION

8318
06:53:51,807 --> 06:53:53,809
, WHICH IS A RISKY MANEUVER ON GEORGIA AVENUE.

8319
06:53:53,809 --> 06:53:57,813
YOU DRIVE IT EVERY DAY AND YOU HAVE

8320
06:53:57,813 --> 06:54:00,816
SEEN IT. FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH,

8321
06:54:00,816 --> 06:54:03,819
THE INTERSECTION ON FOREST GLEN, ACCORDING

8322
06:54:03,819 --> 06:54:04,820
TO RECENT DATA

8323
06:54:04,820 --> 06:54:06,822
IN THE SECTOR PLAN IS OPERATING WITHIN

8324
06:54:06,822 --> 06:54:08,822
ACCEPTABLE LIMITS ,

8325
06:54:09,825 --> 06:54:10,826
IN TERMS OF THE DELAY AT

8326
06:54:10,826 --> 06:54:12,828
THAT INTERSECTION. WE HAVE SEEN PHOTOS

8327
06:54:12,828 --> 06:54:14,828
AND

8328
06:54:15,831 --> 06:54:18,831
THE QUEUING THAT IS CHALLENGING

8329
06:54:18,834 --> 06:54:20,803
, BUT THE INTERSECTION , AS

8330
06:54:20,803 --> 06:54:21,804
IT SITS MEETS COUNTY GUIDELINES AND

8331
06:54:21,804 --> 06:54:23,804
STATE GUIDELINES

8332
06:54:23,806 --> 06:54:27,810
FOR ADEQUACY, IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL

8333
06:54:27,810 --> 06:54:28,811
OF SERVICE. AGAIN, AS WE HAVE

8334
06:54:28,811 --> 06:54:30,813
DISCUSSED AND THIS IS THE LAST THING

8335
06:54:30,813 --> 06:54:32,813
WITHIN MIGHT

8336
06:54:32,815 --> 06:54:33,816
MORE THAN 62nd VERSION. THE VOLUME

8337
06:54:33,816 --> 06:54:36,216
OF TRAFFIC WERE TALKING

8338
06:54:36,819 --> 06:54:38,821
ABOUT FROM THIS SITE

8339
06:54:38,821 --> 06:54:39,822
IN THE PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS WHAT WE

8340
06:54:39,822 --> 06:54:41,822
LOOK AT IN

8341
06:54:42,825 --> 06:54:43,826
TRANSPORTATION STUDIES IS NOT 500 VEHICLES.

8342
06:54:43,826 --> 06:54:45,828
IT IS NOT 400 OR 300 VEHICLES. WE

8343
06:54:45,828 --> 06:54:47,830
ARE TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE

8344
06:54:47,830 --> 06:54:51,834
FROM WHAT IS OUT THERE TODAY OF 35

8345
06:54:51,834 --> 06:54:53,802
IN THE PEAK HOUR AND 35 IN THE

8346
06:54:53,802 --> 06:54:54,803
NON-PEAK HOUR. FROM A BEST PRACTICES

8347
06:54:54,803 --> 06:54:56,803
PERSPECTIVE

8348
06:54:56,805 --> 06:55:00,809
THERE SHOULD BE AN AXIS ON WOODLAND DRIVE

8349
06:55:00,809 --> 06:55:02,809
. >> [ CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

8350
06:55:03,812 --> 06:55:05,812
>>

8351
06:55:12,821 --> 06:55:15,821
>> THERE IS A CONDITION UNDER

8352
06:55:15,824 --> 06:55:17,824
, MY APOLOGIES.

8353
06:55:18,827 --> 06:55:20,827
>> WHILE

8354
06:55:20,829 --> 06:55:21,830
SHE IS TELLING YOU THAT I CAN TELL YOU

8355
06:55:21,830 --> 06:55:23,830
STRAIGHT UP

8356
06:55:23,832 --> 06:55:24,833
THAT WE ARE HAVING BEDROOM UNITS.

8357
06:55:24,833 --> 06:55:27,803
>> AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT,

8358
06:55:27,803 --> 06:55:30,806
WHICH IS 62 1/4 UNITS -- >> IT'S CONDITION 12 G.

8359
06:55:30,806 --> 06:55:32,806
SPECIFYING THAT THEY

8360
06:55:36,812 --> 06:55:38,814
MEET THE SECTOR PLAN RECOMMENDATION FOR THREE

8361
06:55:38,814 --> 06:55:39,815
BEDROOM UNITS. >> WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING

8362
06:55:39,815 --> 06:55:41,850
THERE IS A LACK

8363
06:55:41,850 --> 06:55:42,851
OF FAMILY SIZED UNITS. I WOULD DEFINITELY

8364
06:55:42,851 --> 06:55:45,851
ENCOURAGE IT TO BE STRONGER

8365
06:55:45,854 --> 06:55:47,854
.

8366
06:55:55,864 --> 06:56:00,836
>> LET ME EXPRESS MY COGNITIVE DISSONANCE WITH THIS STAFF REPORT.

8367
06:56:00,836 --> 06:56:04,840
THAT IS, YOU RECOMMEND THE MAXIMUM OF

8368
06:56:04,840 --> 06:56:06,840
2.1 7F AR.

8369
06:56:09,845 --> 06:56:13,849
BUT THEN YOU SAY, WE NEED MORE OPEN

8370
06:56:13,849 --> 06:56:14,850
SPACE ON ONE SIDE. WE

8371
06:56:14,850 --> 06:56:16,852
NEED MORE ARTICULATION AND LOWER HEIGHTS

8372
06:56:16,852 --> 06:56:18,852
ON ANOTHER SIDE.

8373
06:56:22,858 --> 06:56:25,258
ESSENTIALLY BOTH OF THOSE

8374
06:56:25,861 --> 06:56:29,461
ASPECTS ARE REDUCING THE F AR.

8375
06:56:31,867 --> 06:56:32,868
YOU STILL LEFT THE MAXIMUM

8376
06:56:32,868 --> 06:56:36,468
THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION.

8377
06:56:37,840 --> 06:56:39,842
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

8378
06:56:39,842 --> 06:56:43,846
THAT IS A MAXIMUM AND THAT IS NOT A GUARANTOR BECAUSE

8379
06:56:43,846 --> 06:56:45,846
AT THIS

8380
06:56:46,849 --> 06:56:49,852
POINT THIS IS JUST SKETCH PLAN.

8381
06:56:49,852 --> 06:56:51,852
AT PRELIMINARY PLAN

8382
06:56:52,855 --> 06:56:54,857
THEY WILL RECEIVE ENTITLEMENTS.

8383
06:56:54,857 --> 06:56:55,858
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS BALANCE

8384
06:56:55,858 --> 06:56:57,858
A LOT

8385
06:56:58,861 --> 06:57:01,261
OF COMPETING PRIORITIES HERE

8386
06:57:04,867 --> 06:57:07,836
AND TRYING TO FIND THE SWEET SPOT. THAT

8387
06:57:07,836 --> 06:57:10,839
IS WHY THIS SKETCH PLAN HAS MORE CONDITIONS THAN ONE TRADITIONALLY

8388
06:57:10,839 --> 06:57:11,840
WOULD

8389
06:57:11,840 --> 06:57:15,844
SEE WITH THE SKETCH PLAN. WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING

8390
06:57:15,844 --> 06:57:19,848
THAT THERE ARE ALL OF THESE DESIRES

8391
06:57:19,848 --> 06:57:20,849
THAT ARE TRYING TO BE ACHIEVED

8392
06:57:20,849 --> 06:57:25,490
ON THIS SITE, THAT THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS,

8393
06:57:25,854 --> 06:57:28,854
THAT THERE NEED TO BE

8394
06:57:28,857 --> 06:57:31,257
CHANGES TO MEET THEM

8395
06:57:31,860 --> 06:57:32,861
AND

8396
06:57:32,861 --> 06:57:34,863
POINTS TOWARD THE FUTURE. BUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE

8397
06:57:34,863 --> 06:57:37,866
FACT THAT WE ARE AT SKETCH PLAN

8398
06:57:37,866 --> 06:57:38,867
AND WE DO WANT

8399
06:57:38,867 --> 06:57:41,867
TO DEVELOPMENT AT METRO STATIONS.

8400
06:57:45,874 --> 06:57:46,875
>> I COULD HAVE ACCEPTED ALL OF THAT IF

8401
06:57:46,875 --> 06:57:47,876
YOU INCREASE

8402
06:57:47,876 --> 06:57:52,676
THE HEIGHT ALLOWANCE. BY HEIGHTS THEY CAN GET

8403
06:58:01,890 --> 06:58:04,890
THE F.A.R.. >> COMPATIBILITY

8404
06:58:06,895 --> 06:58:10,899
WITH THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO A PRIORITY.

8405
06:58:10,899 --> 06:58:13,869
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED THAT HEIGHT.

8406
06:58:13,869 --> 06:58:15,869
WE ACCEPTED IT.

8407
06:58:24,880 --> 06:58:25,881
>> IF YOU ACCEPT THE HEIGHT YOU CAN'T

8408
06:58:25,881 --> 06:58:26,882
ACCEPT

8409
06:58:26,882 --> 06:58:28,884
THE F.A.R. IF YOU WANT THE CONDITIONS YOU

8410
06:58:28,884 --> 06:58:31,884
ARE SUGGESTING . >> THIS IS NOT

8411
06:58:31,887 --> 06:58:32,888
APPROVING THE F.A.R.. THIS IS

8412
06:58:32,888 --> 06:58:34,890
SETTING THE CEILING TO THE F.A.R.

8413
06:58:34,890 --> 06:58:37,893
AND WE UNDERSTAND . >> WHAT I DON'T WANT

8414
06:58:37,893 --> 06:58:40,893
TO SET IS UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS.

8415
06:58:40,896 --> 06:58:42,896
IF

8416
06:58:43,899 --> 06:58:44,900
ALL YOU DO IS TAKE THE INCREASED

8417
06:58:44,900 --> 06:58:49,700
PART SIZE THEY REQUIRE IT IS AN ADDITIONAL

8418
06:58:49,871 --> 06:58:51,871
1.2 ACRES.

8419
06:58:55,877 --> 06:58:57,877
IF YOU

8420
06:58:57,879 --> 06:58:58,880
ASSUME THERE IS FIVE LEVELS OF DEVELOPMENT ON

8421
06:58:58,880 --> 06:59:01,280
THAT ONE .2 ACRES YOU

8422
06:59:01,883 --> 06:59:03,885
GET 30,000 SQUARE FEET. SO

8423
06:59:03,885 --> 06:59:04,886
SHOULDN'T YOU REDUCE THE F AR BY 30,000

8424
06:59:04,886 --> 06:59:06,886
SQUARE FEET? >>

8425
06:59:07,889 --> 06:59:10,289
THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

8426
06:59:11,893 --> 06:59:13,895
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO

8427
06:59:13,895 --> 06:59:16,295
AS A STANDARD PRACTICE.

8428
06:59:18,900 --> 06:59:19,901
WE SET A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND DENSITY

8429
06:59:19,901 --> 06:59:20,869
FOR A SKETCH

8430
06:59:20,869 --> 06:59:21,870
PLAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT

8431
06:59:21,870 --> 06:59:24,873
HAS DONE AS A PRACTICE FOR YEARS.

8432
06:59:24,873 --> 06:59:25,874
WHAT WILL HAPPEN, EFFECTIVELY, WHEN

8433
06:59:25,874 --> 06:59:27,876
IT COMES IN FOR A PRELIMINARY

8434
06:59:27,876 --> 06:59:30,879
PLAN, WE WILL HAVE A MORE DETAILED DESIGN

8435
06:59:30,879 --> 06:59:31,880
. THAT MAXIMUM DENSITY GOES DOWN. SO

8436
06:59:31,880 --> 06:59:33,882
WE ARE SETTING A MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND

8437
06:59:33,882 --> 06:59:34,883
DENSITY. WE TEND NOT TO REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

8438
06:59:34,883 --> 06:59:37,283
WE TALK ABOUT HEIGHT

8439
06:59:37,886 --> 06:59:40,886
AND COMPATIBILITY AT THIS POINT

8440
06:59:40,922 --> 06:59:43,922
, KNOWING THAT IT WILL BE

8441
06:59:43,925 --> 06:59:46,925
PRODUCED BY THE SITE PLAN.

8442
06:59:46,928 --> 06:59:48,928
>>

8443
06:59:49,931 --> 06:59:52,331
THE APPLICANT EXCEPTS THAT

8444
06:59:52,934 --> 06:59:54,903
, GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING,

8445
06:59:54,903 --> 06:59:55,904
THAT YOU WOULD NEVER GET TO THAT F

8446
06:59:55,904 --> 06:59:58,304
AR AT THAT HEIGHT?

8447
06:59:58,907 --> 07:00:03,707
>> WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET MORE THAN 2.17.

8448
07:00:07,916 --> 07:00:10,916
>> YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET 2.17.

8449
07:00:13,922 --> 07:00:15,922
>>

8450
07:00:15,924 --> 07:00:16,925
I AGREE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW LOW

8451
07:00:16,925 --> 07:00:17,926
IT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE WE DO

8452
07:00:17,926 --> 07:00:19,928
THE DESIGN. ONCE YOU ARE DOING ARCHITECTURE

8453
07:00:19,928 --> 07:00:22,931
YOU HAVE A LITTLE BUMP OUT HERE

8454
07:00:22,931 --> 07:00:24,933
AND A LITTLE PRODUCTION THERE. IT'S

8455
07:00:24,933 --> 07:00:25,934
JUST WAY TOO COMPLICATED FOR THE STATION

8456
07:00:25,934 --> 07:00:26,935
TO PROCESS AND IT WILL TAKE

8457
07:00:26,935 --> 07:00:27,903
A GREAT DEAL OF ANALYSIS TO FIGURE

8458
07:00:27,903 --> 07:00:28,904
OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER BECOMES.

8459
07:00:28,904 --> 07:00:30,904
>> I'M A

8460
07:00:30,906 --> 07:00:31,907
SIMPLE PERSON. IT CAME FROM NEW JERSEY.

8461
07:00:31,907 --> 07:00:33,907
>> I APPRECIATE THAT.

8462
07:00:37,913 --> 07:00:38,914
I JUST KNOW FROM SITTING IN MEETINGS WITH

8463
07:00:38,914 --> 07:00:40,916
ARCHITECTS HOW FINE THIS BECOMES.

8464
07:00:40,916 --> 07:00:42,918
>> WE ACCEPT THE FACT THAT WE WILL HAVE A LOWER

8465
07:00:42,918 --> 07:00:47,118
UNIT COUNT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY.

8466
07:00:51,927 --> 07:00:52,928
>> AGAIN, I WOULD DO THE HEIGHT ONLY

8467
07:00:52,928 --> 07:00:55,328
ON THE GEORGIA AVENUE

8468
07:00:55,931 --> 07:00:58,934
SIDE, NOT IN THE BACK AREA WHERE I THOUGHT THE

8469
07:00:58,934 --> 07:01:00,902
DIAGRAM FROM THE STAFF AT

8470
07:01:00,902 --> 07:01:01,903
A TOWNHOUSE LEVEL WERE REALLY VERY

8471
07:01:01,903 --> 07:01:04,303
GOOD AND VERY RESPONSIVE.

8472
07:01:07,909 --> 07:01:10,912
I WOULD PUT IT ONLY ON THE TOP.

8473
07:01:10,912 --> 07:01:12,912
>> HEIGHT

8474
07:01:13,915 --> 07:01:16,315
IS A TRICKY THING.

8475
07:01:16,918 --> 07:01:21,718
YOU CAN SEE IT IN DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION TYPES.

8476
07:01:21,923 --> 07:01:22,924
ONCE YOU REACH OVER A CERTAIN HEIGHT YOU

8477
07:01:22,924 --> 07:01:24,926
GET INTO A HIGH-RISE BUILDING

8478
07:01:24,926 --> 07:01:25,927
CODE AND YOU START GETTING INTO CONCRETE AND

8479
07:01:25,927 --> 07:01:28,930
A VERY EXPENSIVE MODE OF CREATING HOUSING.

8480
07:01:28,930 --> 07:01:31,930
WE ARE TRYING TO STAY

8481
07:01:31,933 --> 07:01:37,933
OUT OF THOSE MODES OF CONCRETE. THIS IS A SITE

8482
07:01:40,942 --> 07:01:41,943
THAT CANNOT AFFORD, AND WE ARE A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY, WE

8483
07:01:41,943 --> 07:01:43,945
CANNOT AFFORD TO BUILD A CONCRETE

8484
07:01:43,945 --> 07:01:44,946
STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE. IT WON'T GET

8485
07:01:44,946 --> 07:01:45,947
DEVELOPED THAT

8486
07:01:45,947 --> 07:01:47,949
WAY. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS

8487
07:01:47,949 --> 07:01:49,951
STAY OUT OF THE HIGH-RISE CODE

8488
07:01:49,951 --> 07:01:51,953
IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO BUILD ON THIS SITE.

8489
07:01:51,953 --> 07:01:54,956
>> THE OTHER THING THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU MORE,

8490
07:01:54,956 --> 07:01:59,156
OF COURSE YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR PARKING.

8491
07:01:59,961 --> 07:02:02,961
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COUNTED

8492
07:02:03,965 --> 07:02:05,967
IN FAR IT IS THE MASS OF THE BUILDING. IT'S

8493
07:02:05,967 --> 07:02:07,936
PART OF THE FOOTPRINT

8494
07:02:07,936 --> 07:02:12,941
OF THE BUILDING. SO YOU MIGHT GET SOME ACCOMMODATION

8495
07:02:12,941 --> 07:02:17,741
IN BOTH DIRECTIONS BY DOING THE ONE THING.

8496
07:02:17,946 --> 07:02:19,946
>> WE WILL BE

8497
07:02:20,949 --> 07:02:23,952
LOOKING AT THAT. >> OKAY. I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS

8498
07:02:23,952 --> 07:02:26,922
OR COMMENTS FOR THAT MATTER.

8499
07:02:26,922 --> 07:02:29,922
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

8500
07:02:42,904 --> 07:02:43,905
--CHARACTERIZED AS UNMAINTAINED, THE

8501
07:02:43,905 --> 07:02:47,505
BEST KIND OF FORESTS ARE UNMAINTAINED.

8502
07:02:47,909 --> 07:02:49,909
THE FACT THAT

8503
07:02:50,912 --> 07:02:53,312
THERE ARE INVASIVE SPECIES .

8504
07:02:55,917 --> 07:02:56,918
IS THAT GREEN SPACE GOING TO BE TORN

8505
07:02:56,918 --> 07:02:57,919
DOWN

8506
07:02:57,919 --> 07:02:59,921
AND THEN STRUCTURED ON TOP OF IT? OR

8507
07:02:59,921 --> 07:03:02,924
IS IT GOING TO BE TORN

8508
07:03:02,924 --> 07:03:05,324
DOWN IN THE NEW

8509
07:03:05,927 --> 07:03:06,928
NATIVE PLANT THERE?

8510
07:03:06,928 --> 07:03:07,929
>> THAT THROUGH BLOCK CONNECTION WILL

8511
07:03:07,929 --> 07:03:08,930
GO THROUGH THAT WILL HAVE A VARIETY

8512
07:03:08,930 --> 07:03:09,931
OF NATIVE

8513
07:03:09,931 --> 07:03:14,131
PLANTS. ALL DIFFERENT KINDS. PLANTING MORE TREES.

8514
07:03:17,906 --> 07:03:18,907
THE SECTOR PLAN CALLS FOR IT.

8515
07:03:18,907 --> 07:03:19,908
IF YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE FOREST

8516
07:03:19,908 --> 07:03:23,508
YOU NEED TO HAVE ENHANCED ENVIRONMENTAL

8517
07:03:26,915 --> 07:03:27,916
BENEFITS OF OF THAT. WE THINK THAT

8518
07:03:27,916 --> 07:03:28,917
THE THROUGH BLOCK CONNECTION AND THE

8519
07:03:28,917 --> 07:03:29,918
PLANTINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED, NOT

8520
07:03:29,918 --> 07:03:30,919
JUST THERE BUT

8521
07:03:30,919 --> 07:03:35,119
ELSEWHERE THE SITE, WILL PROVIDE MORE BENEFIT.

8522
07:03:35,924 --> 07:03:36,925
DOES

8523
07:03:36,925 --> 07:03:38,960
THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WE'RE NOT PUTTING

8524
07:03:38,960 --> 07:03:41,960
STRUCTURE OVER WHERE IT IS. >>

8525
07:03:41,963 --> 07:03:43,965
THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

8526
07:03:43,965 --> 07:03:47,936
BUT THE IDEA THAT NEW FOREST IS BETTER THAN

8527
07:03:47,936 --> 07:03:50,336
OLD FOREST IS CURIOUS.

8528
07:03:50,939 --> 07:03:52,939
>>

8529
07:03:52,941 --> 07:03:53,942
I WOULD SAY THAT'S TRUE IN ALL CASES.

8530
07:03:53,942 --> 07:03:54,943
CERTAINLY THERE ARE SOME HIGH-QUALITY

8531
07:03:54,943 --> 07:03:55,944
FORESTS THAT YOU WOULD NEVER TOUCH.

8532
07:03:55,944 --> 07:03:56,945
AND IF THIS WAS HIGH-QUALITY FOREST

8533
07:03:56,945 --> 07:03:58,945
WE WOULDN'T

8534
07:03:59,948 --> 07:04:01,950
THE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

8535
07:04:01,950 --> 07:04:02,951
>> NO CHANCE OF SAVING CHERRY TREES?

8536
07:04:02,951 --> 07:04:03,952
>> I ACTUALLY

8537
07:04:03,952 --> 07:04:05,954
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CHERRY TREES

8538
07:04:05,954 --> 07:04:08,954
UNTIL TODAY. WE WILL BE

8539
07:04:08,957 --> 07:04:09,958
LOOKING AT THAT. >> THE REAL

8540
07:04:09,958 --> 07:04:10,959
PROBLEM WITH THE CHERRY TREES, IT'S

8541
07:04:10,959 --> 07:04:11,960
RIGHT OVER WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD

8542
07:04:11,960 --> 07:04:12,961
THE METRO.

8543
07:04:12,961 --> 07:04:14,963
>> IT'S ON THAT CORNER? I THOUGHT

8544
07:04:14,963 --> 07:04:17,363
IT WAS THE OPPOSITE.

8545
07:04:20,935 --> 07:04:22,935
>> I APOLOGIZE

8546
07:04:23,938 --> 07:04:25,938
FOR EVERYBODY.

8547
07:04:28,943 --> 07:04:29,944
I THOUGHT WE MEANT TO THE CHERRY TREES

8548
07:04:29,944 --> 07:04:30,945
THAT YOU WERE TALKING

8549
07:04:30,945 --> 07:04:32,948
ABOUT, THE ONES AT THE ENTRANCE OF

8550
07:04:32,948 --> 07:04:34,950
THE CURRENT MEDICAL CENTER. THAT CURRENT DRIVEWAY.

8551
07:04:34,950 --> 07:04:40,955
YES, THAT IS WHERE THE NEW METRO TUNNEL IS GOING. RIGHT?

8552
07:04:40,955 --> 07:04:44,959
>> AT GEORGIA AND FOREST GLEN IS THE METRO TUNNEL.

8553
07:04:44,959 --> 07:04:46,959
AND I THOUGHT

8554
07:04:46,961 --> 07:04:50,966
YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S AT WOODLAND AND FOREST GLEN.

8555
07:04:50,966 --> 07:04:52,966
CAN

8556
07:04:53,969 --> 07:04:56,938
WE JUST PUT A CONDITION ,

8557
07:04:56,938 --> 07:04:57,939
AS THIS GOES FURTHER,

8558
07:04:57,939 --> 07:04:59,941
EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE

8559
07:04:59,941 --> 07:05:02,941
CHERRY TREES WILL BE DONE

8560
07:05:04,946 --> 07:05:05,947
OR SOME CONDITION LIKE THAT? >> WE

8561
07:05:05,947 --> 07:05:06,948
WILL LOOK AT THE

8562
07:05:06,948 --> 07:05:08,950
POSSIBILITY. >> WE ARE MAKING A LIST

8563
07:05:08,950 --> 07:05:10,952
RIGHT NOW OF CONDITIONS. WE WILL

8564
07:05:10,952 --> 07:05:14,956
READ THOSE OFF BEFORE YOU TAKE ANY VOTES.

8565
07:05:14,956 --> 07:05:16,958
>> I SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE

8566
07:05:16,958 --> 07:05:20,962
I HAD THAT NOTE. THEY SAID THE TWO

8567
07:05:20,962 --> 07:05:22,962
CHERRY TREES,

8568
07:05:22,964 --> 07:05:23,965
IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN PROTECT THEM LET'S

8569
07:05:23,965 --> 07:05:25,965
DO IT. IF

8570
07:05:26,968 --> 07:05:29,938
IT IS NOT, THEN IT IS NOT.

8571
07:05:29,938 --> 07:05:30,939
I THINK

8572
07:05:30,939 --> 07:05:32,941
ATTEMPTS SHOULD BE MADE. >> AT LEAST

8573
07:05:32,941 --> 07:05:34,943
WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THEM AS WE GO

8574
07:05:34,943 --> 07:05:35,977
FORWARD WITH OTHER DESIGNS. >> WE

8575
07:05:35,977 --> 07:05:36,978
WILL ABSOLUTELY. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE GET

8576
07:05:36,978 --> 07:05:39,978
INTO THE DETAILED TREE INFORMATION

8577
07:05:41,983 --> 07:05:45,583
MOVING FORWARD. THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING

8578
07:05:47,989 --> 07:05:49,989
.

8579
07:05:49,991 --> 07:05:50,992
MAYBE WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT TRANSPLANTING THEM.

8580
07:05:50,992 --> 07:05:53,992
UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN IF YOU WERE

8581
07:05:53,995 --> 07:05:56,998
TO REMOVE THAT PAVEMENT, YOU WOULD BE

8582
07:05:56,998 --> 07:05:59,398
LOOKING AT SERIOUS IMPACTS.

8583
07:06:00,100 --> 07:06:01,970
THAT'S REALLY A QUESTION FOR AN

8584
07:06:01,970 --> 07:06:05,974
ARBORIST TO LOOK AT, IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE.

8585
07:06:05,974 --> 07:06:07,974
>> OKAY.

8586
07:06:11,980 --> 07:06:14,983
IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON THE

8587
07:06:14,983 --> 07:06:17,983
GEORGIA AVENUE ENTRANCE OR NOT?

8588
07:06:24,993 --> 07:06:26,995
>> I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS

8589
07:06:26,995 --> 07:06:29,998
ON THE CITY END. I AM NOT YET CONVINCED

8590
07:06:29,998 --> 07:06:33,100
THAT THE IMPACT IS AS BAD.

8591
07:06:33,100 --> 07:06:34,969
I LEAVE

8592
07:06:34,969 --> 07:06:41,569
IT TO THE BOARD. I WILL GO ALONG WITH THE BOARD.

8593
07:06:41,976 --> 07:06:43,978
MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING

8594
07:06:43,978 --> 07:06:44,979
THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AGAIN. BUT

8595
07:06:44,979 --> 07:06:47,982
WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY.

8596
07:06:47,982 --> 07:06:50,985
CORRECT? >> COULD WE SAY TODAY, ENTRANCE ON GEORGIA AVENUE

8597
07:06:50,985 --> 07:06:52,985
, UNLESS DEEMED

8598
07:06:53,988 --> 07:06:55,988
UNSAFE,

8599
07:07:01,996 --> 07:07:04,996
OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF TRANSPORTATION. >>

8600
07:07:07,969 --> 07:07:08,970
PART OF THE STAFF ANALYSIS IN MAKING THIS

8601
07:07:08,970 --> 07:07:10,972
RECOMMENDATION IS WE WOULD CONTINUE

8602
07:07:10,972 --> 07:07:11,973
TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND ANALYZE THIS WITH

8603
07:07:11,973 --> 07:07:14,976
THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. I WAS

8604
07:07:14,976 --> 07:07:17,376
PART OF THE EVALUATION.

8605
07:07:17,979 --> 07:07:19,981
WHEN I MADE MY

8606
07:07:19,981 --> 07:07:20,982
STATEMENT THAT I THOUGHT THAT IT COULD WORK

8607
07:07:20,982 --> 07:07:21,983
FROM GEORGIA AVENUE, THAT IS DIRECTLY IN RESPONSE TO

8608
07:07:21,983 --> 07:07:23,985
THE BOARD'S QUESTION. I THINK OUR

8609
07:07:23,985 --> 07:07:26,988
PREFERENCE WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE ACCESS. I DO

8610
07:07:26,988 --> 07:07:28,990
THINK IT COULD BE EVALUATED AND

8611
07:07:28,990 --> 07:07:29,991
BE COMPLETED SAFELY ON GEORGIA AVENUE ALONE.

8612
07:07:29,991 --> 07:07:31,991
IF WE

8613
07:07:31,993 --> 07:07:32,994
WANT FURTHER VEHICULAR ANALYSIS ON

8614
07:07:32,994 --> 07:07:35,994
THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN I

8615
07:07:36,300 --> 07:07:39,300
THINK WE CAN DO THAT

8616
07:07:39,330 --> 07:07:41,350
WITH THE BOARD'S DIRECTION. THERE IS

8617
07:07:41,350 --> 07:07:44,500
NO ANALYSIS REQUIRED IN POLICY AREAS FOR CONGESTION STANDARDS.

8618
07:07:44,500 --> 07:07:45,600
THE BOARD CAN REQUIRE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS

8619
07:07:45,600 --> 07:07:46,700
FOR THE SITE TO DETERMINE

8620
07:07:46,700 --> 07:07:48,407
SPECIFIC SITE ACCESS CONSIDERATIONS.

8621
07:07:51,120 --> 07:07:53,412
>> THAT IS MY PREFERENCE.

8622
07:07:54,150 --> 07:07:57,150
I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS

8623
07:07:57,180 --> 07:07:59,180
OF THE NEIGHBORS

8624
07:08:00,210 --> 07:08:02,210
IN REGARD

8625
07:08:02,230 --> 07:08:06,223
TO CARS COMING DOWN. THE OTHER THING

8626
07:08:09,300 --> 07:08:12,330
THAT WOULD BE GOOD, I HEARD THE SPEAKER TALKING ABOUT

8627
07:08:12,330 --> 07:08:14,330
BEING ABLE

8628
07:08:18,600 --> 07:08:20,800
TO STILL DO THE BICYCLE. I DO NOT KNOW, AS

8629
07:08:20,800 --> 07:08:21,900
PART OF THE APF AND THE SIDEWALK ANALYSIS,

8630
07:08:21,900 --> 07:08:23,409
IF WE COULD EXTEND

8631
07:08:28,160 --> 07:08:31,160
THE BIKEWAYS OR SIDEWALKS ENOUGH

8632
07:08:31,190 --> 07:08:33,190
THAT PROVIDE

8633
07:08:34,220 --> 07:08:36,422
SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP

8634
07:08:37,250 --> 07:08:38,260
WITH DOT

8635
07:08:38,260 --> 07:08:42,226
THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THE DEVELOPER

8636
07:08:43,310 --> 07:08:44,320
TO MAKE THE AREA

8637
07:08:44,320 --> 07:08:46,340
SAFE FOR THE CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY WITH

8638
07:08:46,340 --> 07:08:48,434
ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL.

8639
07:08:49,300 --> 07:08:51,403
THEY SHOULD GET PRIORITY

8640
07:08:52,600 --> 07:08:54,600
TO HAVE THAT

8641
07:08:54,800 --> 07:08:57,110
SIDEWALK FOR THE KIDS THAT THEY COULD GO SAFER

8642
07:08:57,110 --> 07:08:59,130
IF YOU DO THE ANALYSIS FOR THE SIDEWALK.

8643
07:08:59,130 --> 07:09:03,813
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD

8644
07:09:04,180 --> 07:09:05,190
IF WE COULD INCLUDE THAT. >>

8645
07:09:05,190 --> 07:09:07,210
I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR

8646
07:09:07,210 --> 07:09:09,210
.

8647
07:09:13,270 --> 07:09:15,270
I

8648
07:09:15,290 --> 07:09:19,829
WAS TRYING TO FIND THE PICTURE ON HERE.

8649
07:09:24,500 --> 07:09:27,800
IS IT PRELIMINARY, THE SITE PLAN, WHEN

8650
07:09:27,800 --> 07:09:31,208
WE DISCUSS ALONG WOODLAND DRIVE TO ADDRESS

8651
07:09:36,500 --> 07:09:37,510
SAFETY CONCERNS RIGHT THERE. I THINK

8652
07:09:37,510 --> 07:09:38,520
WE CAN PROBABLY

8653
07:09:38,520 --> 07:09:39,530
LOOK AT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT STREET

8654
07:09:39,530 --> 07:09:41,550
PARKING AREA, WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS

8655
07:09:41,550 --> 07:09:43,570
TO BE STREET PARKING OR SOMETHING

8656
07:09:43,570 --> 07:09:44,580
ELSE. >> THAT IS CORRECT. WE

8657
07:09:44,580 --> 07:09:48,258
WILL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT BOTH STAGES

8658
07:09:49,630 --> 07:09:51,630
. THE SITE PLAN

8659
07:09:51,650 --> 07:09:52,660
, WHEN WE ARE INTO THE FULL NITTY-GRITTY

8660
07:09:52,660 --> 07:09:54,660
OF

8661
07:09:54,680 --> 07:09:58,390
WHAT ELEVATION IS THAT CURB AND ALL OF THAT.

8662
07:09:58,390 --> 07:09:59,400
>> I DON'T KNOW IF

8663
07:09:59,400 --> 07:10:03,840
WE NEED TO PUT A CONSIDERATION IN HERE.

8664
07:10:04,450 --> 07:10:06,470
WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE SURE

8665
07:10:06,470 --> 07:10:07,480
WE BRING THAT UP AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE

8666
07:10:07,480 --> 07:10:09,448
WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

8667
07:10:16,570 --> 07:10:17,580
>> AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A

8668
07:10:17,580 --> 07:10:19,600
LEGAL OBJECTION TO IT, AS LONG AS WE

8669
07:10:19,600 --> 07:10:22,630
SAY WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE

8670
07:10:22,630 --> 07:10:25,630
ACCESS AT A FURTHER STAGE

8671
07:10:25,660 --> 07:10:26,670
WITH POSSIBLE TWO

8672
07:10:26,670 --> 07:10:28,360
ALTERNATIVES. >> YES, I BELIEVE AT

8673
07:10:28,360 --> 07:10:31,390
THIS STAGE THE BOARD CAN EXPRESS A PREFERENCE

8674
07:10:31,390 --> 07:10:33,390
.

8675
07:10:33,410 --> 07:10:34,420
THEY WILL INDICATE THAT THEY CAN STUDY

8676
07:10:34,420 --> 07:10:36,442
AT A LATER STAGE.

8677
07:10:37,450 --> 07:10:39,450
>> HOW ABOUT

8678
07:10:40,480 --> 07:10:42,500
A PREFERENCE FOR GEORGIA AVENUE?

8679
07:10:42,500 --> 07:10:45,650
FURTHER STUDY AND AFFIRMATION OF THAT

8680
07:10:46,540 --> 07:10:48,454
, LOOKING AT A POSSIBILITY

8681
07:10:49,570 --> 07:10:51,570
OF WORK. >> YES .

8682
07:10:53,610 --> 07:10:55,630
FOR THE RECORD WE CAN DEFINITELY DO

8683
07:10:55,630 --> 07:10:57,650
THAT AND WE HAVE A CONDITION

8684
07:10:57,650 --> 07:11:01,690
THAT WE CAN READ HERE IN A MOMENT THAT REFLECTS THAT.

8685
07:11:01,690 --> 07:11:02,360
AND ALSO, AS PART

8686
07:11:02,360 --> 07:11:04,380
OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ANALYSIS, WE

8687
07:11:04,380 --> 07:11:05,390
ARE HOPING TO SEE A REDUCED

8688
07:11:05,390 --> 07:11:07,410
PARKING AMOUNT, WHICH WOULD THEN HOPEFULLY

8689
07:11:07,410 --> 07:11:09,410
REDUCE

8690
07:11:10,440 --> 07:11:12,460
THE NUMBER OF TRIPS ON EITHER ACCESS

8691
07:11:12,460 --> 07:11:16,846
POINT. WHETHER ENDS UP BEING ONLY ON GEORGIA

8692
07:11:18,520 --> 07:11:19,530
, WHICH OBVIOUSLY SOUNDS LIKE THE

8693
07:11:19,530 --> 07:11:20,540
PREFERENCE OF

8694
07:11:20,540 --> 07:11:21,550
THE BOARD. WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF WHERE

8695
07:11:21,550 --> 07:11:22,560
WE HAVE SINGLE ACCESS LIKE THIS ON

8696
07:11:22,560 --> 07:11:23,570
THE CORRIDORS.

8697
07:11:23,570 --> 07:11:26,570
AND WE HAVE LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT.

8698
07:11:31,650 --> 07:11:32,660
AS I WANTED TO CALL YOUR

8699
07:11:32,660 --> 07:11:33,101
ATTENTION TO AN EXISTING CONDITION

8700
07:11:33,101 --> 07:11:37,380
WE HAVE IN HERE ABOUT PARKING. IT

8701
07:11:37,380 --> 07:11:39,380
IS CONDITION 12 B.

8702
07:11:40,410 --> 07:11:41,420
THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS

8703
07:11:41,420 --> 07:11:43,440
THE APPLICANT SHOULD UNBUNDLE RESIDENTIAL PARKING

8704
07:11:43,440 --> 07:11:45,444
AND REDUCED PARKING ACCORDING

8705
07:11:46,470 --> 07:11:48,470
TO TRANSIT USE.

8706
07:11:49,500 --> 07:11:51,520
SO THE NEW CONDITION THAT WE

8707
07:11:51,520 --> 07:11:52,530
ARE ABOUT TO READ, I'M GOING TO ASK

8708
07:11:52,530 --> 07:11:55,653
MATT TO READ THAT FOR YOU.

8709
07:12:04,650 --> 07:12:05,660
>> THE OTHER THING I

8710
07:12:05,660 --> 07:12:07,680
WOULD SAY ABOUT PARKING, FOR SURE,

8711
07:12:07,680 --> 07:12:09,680
IS THAT

8712
07:12:10,370 --> 07:12:12,390
THE BOARD WILL EXPECT

8713
07:12:12,390 --> 07:12:16,839
SIGNIFICANTLY LESS PARKING IN OTHER STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.

8714
07:12:18,450 --> 07:12:23,445
LOOK, WE WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU TOO.

8715
07:12:25,520 --> 07:12:26,530
ON WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WHEN YOU

8716
07:12:26,530 --> 07:12:29,530
COME BACK FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.

8717
07:12:37,640 --> 07:12:39,640
>> THIS WOULD

8718
07:12:39,660 --> 07:12:42,666
BE A NEW CONDITION , 14, I BELIEVE.

8719
07:12:51,450 --> 07:12:52,460
>> YES, 14. >> THIS WOULD BE A NEW CONDITION 14.

8720
07:12:52,460 --> 07:12:53,470
VEHICULAR

8721
07:12:53,470 --> 07:12:55,490
ACCESS ON GEORGIA AVENUE IS PREFERRED.

8722
07:12:55,490 --> 07:12:57,510
REGULAR ACCESS ON WOODLAND DRIVE

8723
07:12:57,510 --> 07:13:00,540
, WOODLAND MAYBE PARALYMPIAN IS BY THE

8724
07:13:00,540 --> 07:13:04,254
PLANNING BOARD BASED ON OPERATIONAL TRAFFIC STUDIES.

8725
07:13:07,610 --> 07:13:10,640
>> DID YOU WANT TO ADD ONE ON

8726
07:13:10,640 --> 07:13:11,650
THE EXPECTATIONS ON

8727
07:13:11,650 --> 07:13:14,665
THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES ALLOWED?

8728
07:13:16,370 --> 07:13:19,370
>> CAN WE JUST A NOTE

8729
07:13:19,400 --> 07:13:21,440
ON THAT DRAFT CONDITION

8730
07:13:22,430 --> 07:13:25,460
? >> WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO ADD

8731
07:13:25,460 --> 07:13:28,460
, OF THE ACCESS, AT THE

8732
07:13:28,490 --> 07:13:30,510
END OF THE SENTENCE?

8733
07:13:30,510 --> 07:13:31,520
JUST TO BE AWARE THAT THE OVERALL VEHICULAR

8734
07:13:31,520 --> 07:13:33,452
ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE

8735
07:13:34,880 --> 07:13:36,900
AREA IS NOT REQUIRED.

8736
07:13:36,900 --> 07:13:37,910
THIS WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE DRIVEWAY.

8737
07:13:37,910 --> 07:13:40,691
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

8738
07:13:43,970 --> 07:13:46,100
>> WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE IS HOW ATR

8739
07:13:46,100 --> 07:13:49,700
IN A RED AREA NO

8740
07:13:49,700 --> 07:13:51,720
MATTER WHAT WE SAY.

8741
07:13:51,720 --> 07:13:55,272
>> WE ARE. BUT TYPICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE

8742
07:13:57,780 --> 07:13:58,790
A VEHICULAR COMPONENT TO THAT. SO

8743
07:13:58,790 --> 07:14:00,810
WE ARE ADDING ONE. WE

8744
07:14:00,810 --> 07:14:01,820
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR WHAT

8745
07:14:01,820 --> 07:14:04,820
WE ARE STUDYING. >> GOT IT.

8746
07:14:04,850 --> 07:14:06,850
>> WE

8747
07:14:07,880 --> 07:14:09,488
WILL READ IT AGAIN.

8748
07:14:13,940 --> 07:14:14,950
>> I

8749
07:14:14,950 --> 07:14:15,960
WILL READ IT AGAIN AND BE CLEAR OF

8750
07:14:15,960 --> 07:14:16,970
WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUGGESTED. REGULAR

8751
07:14:16,970 --> 07:14:17,980
ACCESS ON GEORGIA

8752
07:14:17,980 --> 07:14:19,100
AVENUE IS PREFERRED. REGULAR ACCESS ON

8753
07:14:19,100 --> 07:14:20,101
WOODLAND MAY BE PERMITTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AT

8754
07:14:20,101 --> 07:14:22,690
THE TIME OF PRELIMINARY PLANNING BASED

8755
07:14:22,690 --> 07:14:25,690
ON AN OPERATIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY

8756
07:14:25,720 --> 07:14:27,740
AND THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED OF THE ACCESS POINT,

8757
07:14:27,740 --> 07:14:28,750
WHICH WAS THE INTENT OF THE CONDITION

8758
07:14:28,750 --> 07:14:31,750
I SUGGESTED PICK >> THAT SOUNDS

8759
07:14:31,780 --> 07:14:34,810
RIGHT TO ME. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE BOARD'S DIRECTION

8760
07:14:34,810 --> 07:14:36,810
REGARDING

8761
07:14:37,840 --> 07:14:39,840
THE RIGHT CONCERNS.

8762
07:14:40,870 --> 07:14:42,870
WE DO HAVE

8763
07:14:43,900 --> 07:14:44,910
A CONDITION,

8764
07:14:44,910 --> 07:14:46,930
TRANSPORTATION ACCESS CONDITION SEVEN. THEY MUST

8765
07:14:46,930 --> 07:14:47,940
PROVIDE A DESIGNATED PICKUP AND DROP OFF

8766
07:14:47,940 --> 07:14:51,294
AREA FOR THE METRO STATION ALONG WITH

8767
07:14:52,990 --> 07:14:54,990
LONG DRIVE.

8768
07:14:54,101 --> 07:14:55,690
THAT IS HOW THE CONDITION READS RIGHT NOW.

8769
07:14:55,690 --> 07:14:57,690
>>

8770
07:14:57,710 --> 07:14:58,720
DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S A VIOLATION

8771
07:14:58,720 --> 07:15:00,472
OF THE SECTOR PLAN?

8772
07:15:04,780 --> 07:15:06,780
>>

8773
07:15:06,800 --> 07:15:07,810
PART OF THE THOUGHT IN THIS. WE ARE GOING

8774
07:15:07,810 --> 07:15:09,830
FOR SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE ON THE

8775
07:15:09,830 --> 07:15:10,840
SECTOR PLAN. WE ARE GOING ACROSS THE SITE

8776
07:15:10,840 --> 07:15:12,484
WITH A BROKEN SLAB

8777
07:15:15,890 --> 07:15:16,900
, POTENTIALLY IN THE GARAGE, WHICH

8778
07:15:16,900 --> 07:15:18,920
HAS SOME COMPLICATING EFFECTS

8779
07:15:18,920 --> 07:15:22,960
ON SITE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION. WE FELT THAT IF

8780
07:15:22,960 --> 07:15:24,980
THE KISS AND RIDE

8781
07:15:24,980 --> 07:15:25,990
SPOTS WERE ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE OF

8782
07:15:25,990 --> 07:15:27,101
WOODLAND THAT IT WOULD BASICALLY SERVE PEOPLE WHO

8783
07:15:27,101 --> 07:15:28,102
ARE ALREADY BOUND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

8784
07:15:28,102 --> 07:15:30,102
TO DROP

8785
07:15:31,105 --> 07:15:33,107
OFF A FAMILY MEMBER

8786
07:15:33,107 --> 07:15:35,109
OR WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS AT THE

8787
07:15:35,109 --> 07:15:37,109
METRO AND

8788
07:15:38,112 --> 07:15:40,114
THEN BE ON THEIR WAY.

8789
07:15:40,114 --> 07:15:43,117
OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE

8790
07:15:43,117 --> 07:15:44,118
IT INDUCES TRAFFIC INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

8791
07:15:44,118 --> 07:15:46,118
OFF OF GEORGIA

8792
07:15:47,121 --> 07:15:49,123
BECAUSE YOU CAN COME IN OFF OF

8793
07:15:49,123 --> 07:15:50,124
GEORGIA AVENUE AND THE BELTWAY. YOU

8794
07:15:50,124 --> 07:15:53,127
CAN TURN UP WOODLAND. THIS WOULD

8795
07:15:53,127 --> 07:15:54,128
NOT REALLY FACILITATE THAT

8796
07:15:54,128 --> 07:15:56,130
MOVEMENT. LIKEWISE, IF YOU WERE TO

8797
07:15:56,130 --> 07:15:59,133
GO INTO THE GARAGE, WHICH HAS SOME OPERATIONAL ITERATIONS, IT COULD

8798
07:15:59,133 --> 07:16:01,135
BE SAID WAITING AROUND AND

8799
07:16:01,135 --> 07:16:03,104
THEN COME BACK OUT TO THE SITE. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING

8800
07:16:03,104 --> 07:16:05,106
THE MASTER PLAN IS NOT APPLICABLE?

8801
07:16:05,106 --> 07:16:06,107
>>

8802
07:16:06,107 --> 07:16:09,110
NOT APPLICABLE. WE ARE TRYING TO WORK

8803
07:16:09,110 --> 07:16:10,111
WITHIN THE SITE CONSIDERATIONS. THIS

8804
07:16:10,111 --> 07:16:14,311
WAS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF

8805
07:16:17,118 --> 07:16:18,119
AS PART OF

8806
07:16:18,119 --> 07:16:20,121
THE APPLICATION HERE. IT'S NOT THE

8807
07:16:20,121 --> 07:16:22,123
ONLY WAY TO DO IT. IF IT'S A HARD INTERPRETATION

8808
07:16:22,123 --> 07:16:25,126
WITHIN THE SITE WE WILL WORK WITH THAT DIRECTION.

8809
07:16:25,126 --> 07:16:26,127
>> IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE SECTOR

8810
07:16:26,127 --> 07:16:27,128
PLAN CALLS

8811
07:16:27,128 --> 07:16:31,328
FOR ACCESS ON WOODLAND. IT SAYS, WOODLAND.

8812
07:16:38,105 --> 07:16:40,105
>> IS THE DEVELOPER

8813
07:16:41,108 --> 07:16:44,108
SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE

8814
07:16:44,111 --> 07:16:47,114
KISS AND RIDE? THAT PART OF

8815
07:16:47,114 --> 07:16:48,115
THE SITE? >> A PICKUP AND DROP OFF IS

8816
07:16:48,115 --> 07:16:51,115
THE EXPRESSION FOR THIS FACILITY.

8817
07:16:55,122 --> 07:16:58,125
>> I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF THE METRO.

8818
07:16:58,125 --> 07:17:01,725
>> RIGHT. >> I DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

8819
07:17:04,131 --> 07:17:05,132
I DO THINK THAT THIS ANALYSIS IS TIED IN

8820
07:17:05,132 --> 07:17:07,532
WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY

8821
07:17:09,103 --> 07:17:11,105
. I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK

8822
07:17:11,105 --> 07:17:12,106
AT THIS MORE CLOSELY AS PART OF

8823
07:17:12,106 --> 07:17:16,306
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. I WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND

8824
07:17:17,111 --> 07:17:19,111
STRIKING ALONG

8825
07:17:19,113 --> 07:17:23,913
THE WOODLAND DRIVE SECTION OF THAT TO SIMPLY

8826
07:17:25,119 --> 07:17:26,120
READ THAT THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE

8827
07:17:26,120 --> 07:17:29,123
A DESIGNATED PICKUP AND DROP OFF

8828
07:17:29,123 --> 07:17:32,123
AREA FOR THE METRO STATION.

8829
07:17:35,162 --> 07:17:37,164
AT THIS TIME WE NEED TO HAVE MORE ANALYSIS

8830
07:17:37,164 --> 07:17:38,165
LOOKED AT. PARTICULARLY IF WE ARE

8831
07:17:38,165 --> 07:17:39,166
LOOKING

8832
07:17:39,166 --> 07:17:40,167
AT ONLY HAVING ACCESS OFF OF GEORGIA. I

8833
07:17:40,167 --> 07:17:44,367
THINK THAT WOULD BE MOST A PROBE.

8834
07:18:05,159 --> 07:18:08,162
-- >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE PARKING.

8835
07:18:08,162 --> 07:18:10,164
I THAT WOULD BE

8836
07:18:10,164 --> 07:18:14,364
FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO RAISE THAT CONCERN.

8837
07:18:16,137 --> 07:18:17,138
THERE IS A BIG PARKING LOT FOR PEOPLE

8838
07:18:17,138 --> 07:18:19,138
TO PARK, BUT

8839
07:18:20,141 --> 07:18:21,142
THEY HAVE TO PAY. SOME

8840
07:18:21,142 --> 07:18:23,144
PEOPLE MAY DECIDE, I'M GOING TO FIND A

8841
07:18:23,144 --> 07:18:25,146
PARKING SPOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

8842
07:18:25,146 --> 07:18:26,147
, AND SIMPLY WALKED TO THE ENTRANCE

8843
07:18:26,147 --> 07:18:28,547
OF THE METRO THERE.

8844
07:18:29,150 --> 07:18:30,151
>> THAT'S A GREAT

8845
07:18:30,151 --> 07:18:34,351
QUESTION. I KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE

8846
07:18:35,156 --> 07:18:36,157
THE DOT

8847
07:18:36,157 --> 07:18:38,159
IN THE AUDIENCE LISTENING IN. WE WOULD

8848
07:18:38,159 --> 07:18:39,160
BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RESIDENCE WITH THE

8849
07:18:39,160 --> 07:18:41,162
PROCESS FOR GETTING PERMIT PARKING ON THE STREET.

8850
07:18:41,162 --> 07:18:43,162
THERE

8851
07:18:43,164 --> 07:18:44,165
IS A PROCESS FOR THAT. IT IS SEPARATE

8852
07:18:44,165 --> 07:18:46,165
FROM

8853
07:18:46,167 --> 07:18:49,767
THE REGULATORY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

8854
07:18:50,137 --> 07:18:52,537
>> ALL RIGHT. IF NOBODY

8855
07:18:53,140 --> 07:18:56,140
HAS ANY OTHER CHANGES DOES

8856
07:18:56,143 --> 07:18:59,743
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

8857
07:19:05,152 --> 07:19:06,153
>> LET ME JUST GO BACK

8858
07:19:06,153 --> 07:19:10,953
IN HERE. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION

8859
07:19:11,158 --> 07:19:13,158
FOR THE PROPERTY,

8860
07:19:14,161 --> 07:19:16,161
9801 GEORGIA AVENUE

8861
07:19:17,164 --> 07:19:19,164
, SKETCH PLAN NUMBER 320 .

8862
07:19:23,137 --> 07:19:25,137
23 0020.

8863
07:19:26,140 --> 07:19:27,141
WE

8864
07:19:27,141 --> 07:19:30,141
WILL ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION

8865
07:19:37,184 --> 07:19:41,188
AND WE ADVISE -- THE MEETING TODAY.

8866
07:19:41,188 --> 07:19:43,188
>> UNDERSTANDABLE TO STAFF?

8867
07:19:44,191 --> 07:19:48,991
ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE OF THAT ONE.

8868
07:19:53,200 --> 07:19:54,201
>> YOU

8869
07:19:54,201 --> 07:19:56,170
HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? >> WE HAVE A

8870
07:19:56,170 --> 07:19:58,570
MOTION AND A SECOND. >>

8871
07:19:59,173 --> 07:20:01,573
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

8872
07:20:02,176 --> 07:20:04,176
>> AYE,

8873
07:20:10,184 --> 07:20:11,185
>> AYE. >> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSING?

8874
07:20:11,185 --> 07:20:13,585
ALL OF THOSE ABSTAINING?

8875
07:20:14,188 --> 07:20:16,190
>> I AM STATE. >> YOU WILL HAVE 4-0-1 AS

8876
07:20:16,190 --> 07:20:17,191
YOUR VOTE. THIS WILL HAVE LOTS OF WORK.

8877
07:20:17,191 --> 07:20:19,191
YOU HAVE

8878
07:20:20,194 --> 07:20:22,594
BEEN PERSEVERING SO FAR

8879
07:20:23,197 --> 07:20:25,199
AND SO HAS THE COMMUNITY. I HOPE YOU

8880
07:20:25,199 --> 07:20:26,200
WORK MORE WITH THEM AS YOU GO FORWARD.

8881
07:20:26,200 --> 07:20:28,200
>> THANK

8882
07:20:29,169 --> 07:20:31,169
YOU. >> THANK YOU.

8883
07:20:59,166 --> 07:21:01,166
>>

8884
07:21:23,157 --> 07:21:28,557
[ THE EVENT IS ON A RECESS. CAPTIONER ON STANDBY.

8885
07:30:07,280 --> 07:30:09,280
>>>

8886
07:30:09,282 --> 07:30:13,286
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE NATIONALS ARE DOING.

8887
07:30:13,286 --> 07:30:15,288
IN ANY EVENT WE HAVE AN

8888
07:30:15,288 --> 07:30:18,888
ITEM BEFORE US NOW , POPLAR GROVE

8889
07:30:19,292 --> 07:30:21,292
, PRELIMINARY PLAN

8890
07:30:22,295 --> 07:30:24,295
AMENDMENT NUMBER 12019004 BE.

8891
07:30:28,301 --> 07:30:30,701
THIS PROJECT HAS HAD

8892
07:30:31,271 --> 07:30:33,671
EXTENSIONS IN THE PAST

8893
07:30:34,274 --> 07:30:37,277
. RIGHT NOW IT IS IN A STATUS

8894
07:30:37,277 --> 07:30:39,277
WHERE THE APF

8895
07:30:40,280 --> 07:30:42,280
HAS

8896
07:30:43,283 --> 07:30:46,283
-- >> SORRY, CHAIR. IT IS

8897
07:30:46,286 --> 07:30:48,286
PLAN VALIDITY.

8898
07:30:49,289 --> 07:30:52,289
THIS IS FOR PLANNING. >> YES.

8899
07:30:54,294 --> 07:30:55,295
>> I'LL BE QUIET. YOU GO AHEAD. >> THE VALIDITY

8900
07:30:55,295 --> 07:30:57,295
PERIOD FOR APF

8901
07:30:58,298 --> 07:31:01,298
IS A LOT LONGER THAN

8902
07:31:01,301 --> 07:31:03,701
THE PLANNING PERIOD. THEREFORE,

8903
07:31:04,271 --> 07:31:06,271
WITHOUT REGARD

8904
07:31:06,273 --> 07:31:07,274
TO THE REASONS FOR THE EXTENSION ,

8905
07:31:07,274 --> 07:31:09,274
WHICH APPLY TO

8906
07:31:10,277 --> 07:31:12,677
EVERYONE IN THE WORLD

8907
07:31:14,281 --> 07:31:16,283
. THE PANDEMIC, THE SUPPLY PROBLEMS,

8908
07:31:16,283 --> 07:31:18,683
THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION,

8909
07:31:19,286 --> 07:31:21,286
WHICH MIGHT

8910
07:31:21,288 --> 07:31:25,325
AT SOME POINT BE A SUBJECT FOR LEGISLATION

8911
07:31:25,325 --> 07:31:28,325
RATHER THAN DOING THIS PEACEFULLY.

8912
07:31:28,328 --> 07:31:29,329
IN ANY EVENT, THE SIMPLE THING ,

8913
07:31:29,329 --> 07:31:34,334
EVEN WITH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY STAFF,

8914
07:31:34,334 --> 07:31:36,303
SIMPLY

8915
07:31:36,303 --> 07:31:37,304
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THE

8916
07:31:37,304 --> 07:31:40,304
PLAN VALIDITY PERIOD THE SAME

8917
07:31:40,307 --> 07:31:45,707
AS THE VALIDITY PERIOD FOR THE ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES

8918
07:31:46,313 --> 07:31:48,315
. DID I SAY IT RIGHT? YOU CAN CORRECT ME

8919
07:31:48,315 --> 07:31:53,115
NOW. >> YES. VERY SORRY. YOU SAID IT WELL.

8920
07:31:54,321 --> 07:31:55,322
>> I THINK THAT'S THE SIMPLE STORY

8921
07:31:55,322 --> 07:31:57,322
HERE. AND I

8922
07:31:58,325 --> 07:32:01,328
WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO TAKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> SORRY,

8923
07:32:01,328 --> 07:32:04,328
WE DID HAVE ONE REQUEST

8924
07:32:07,334 --> 07:32:09,336
BASED ON THE TESTIMONY

8925
07:32:09,336 --> 07:32:10,303
RECEIVED ON THE CEMETERY AND THE CURRENT STATUS. >>

8926
07:32:10,303 --> 07:32:11,304
I FORGOT THE CEMETERY. >>

8927
07:32:11,304 --> 07:32:13,306
YES, WE DID ORIGINALLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE

8928
07:32:13,306 --> 07:32:16,306
EXTENSION REQUEST AS LAID OUT

8929
07:32:16,309 --> 07:32:18,709
IN THE STAFF REPORT.

8930
07:32:19,312 --> 07:32:20,313
HOWEVER,

8931
07:32:20,313 --> 07:32:23,313
THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL

8932
07:32:25,318 --> 07:32:27,320
REQUIRE THAT, PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION

8933
07:32:27,320 --> 07:32:28,321
ACTIVITIES ON SITE FOR THE FIRST PHASE, THAT

8934
07:32:28,321 --> 07:32:30,321
A MAINTENANCE

8935
07:32:31,324 --> 07:32:34,327
PLAN FOR THE CEMETERY MAY BE

8936
07:32:34,327 --> 07:32:36,727
ENTERED INTO THE APPLICANT

8937
07:32:37,330 --> 07:32:40,330
AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION. TO THIS

8938
07:32:40,333 --> 07:32:42,335
POINT YOU RECEIVE TESTIMONY OF

8939
07:32:42,335 --> 07:32:46,306
PHOTOS TAKEN. THE CEMETERY WAS NOT BEING MAINTAINED

8940
07:32:46,306 --> 07:32:48,306
.

8941
07:32:49,309 --> 07:32:51,309
RIGHT

8942
07:32:51,311 --> 07:32:52,312
NOW THERE IS NO VIOLATION OF ANY CONDITIONS BECAUSE

8943
07:32:52,312 --> 07:32:54,314
CONSTRUCTION HAS NOT COMMENCED.

8944
07:32:54,314 --> 07:33:00,314
HOWEVER, AS TIME KEEPS GOING ON THERE IS THE ISSUE

8945
07:33:00,320 --> 07:33:01,321
THAT THE INTENT OF THE CONDITION IS

8946
07:33:01,321 --> 07:33:04,324
NOT BEING MET AND THE CEMETERY

8947
07:33:04,324 --> 07:33:06,326
IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED.

8948
07:33:06,326 --> 07:33:07,327
THE APPLICANT RESPONDED WITH SOME

8949
07:33:07,327 --> 07:33:09,329
PHOTOS SAYING THAT THEY DID

8950
07:33:09,329 --> 07:33:13,333
IN FACT CLEANUP THE CEMETERY TEMPORARILY. HOWEVER,

8951
07:33:13,333 --> 07:33:14,334
THERE ARE

8952
07:33:14,334 --> 07:33:16,302
STILL SAPLINGS AND OTHER THINGS ON

8953
07:33:16,302 --> 07:33:18,304
THE SITE THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. SO WE

8954
07:33:18,304 --> 07:33:19,305
ARE ASKING THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO FOR

8955
07:33:19,305 --> 07:33:22,305
THIS ACTION ON TAKING ACTION

8956
07:33:22,342 --> 07:33:27,142
FOR THE EXTENSION REQUEST TODAY TO GIVE STAFF

8957
07:33:27,347 --> 07:33:32,747
A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT

8958
07:33:33,353 --> 07:33:34,354
TO GET SOME BETTER MAINTENANCE IN PLACE BEFORE

8959
07:33:34,354 --> 07:33:36,354
YOU TAKE

8960
07:33:36,356 --> 07:33:37,357
ACTION ON THIS. FOR NOW WE WOULD ASK

8961
07:33:37,357 --> 07:33:40,357
THAT YOU DO FOR. NOT

8962
07:33:40,360 --> 07:33:46,360
SET A PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL COME BACK WHEN READY.

8963
07:33:46,366 --> 07:33:48,366
JUNE 1st. >> ARE

8964
07:33:49,369 --> 07:33:51,769
WE DEFERRING OR CONTINUING?

8965
07:33:52,338 --> 07:33:54,338
>> I

8966
07:33:54,340 --> 07:33:58,344
BELIEVE IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE A CONTINUANCE

8967
07:33:58,344 --> 07:34:00,344
IF THE STAFF

8968
07:34:01,347 --> 07:34:03,349
IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IT WOULD

8969
07:34:03,349 --> 07:34:04,350
NEED TO BE DECIDED AS A PUBLIC HEARING

8970
07:34:04,350 --> 07:34:06,350
.

8971
07:34:12,358 --> 07:34:13,359
IF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT OCCURRING

8972
07:34:13,359 --> 07:34:15,361
TODAY THAT IT WOULD OCCUR IN

8973
07:34:15,361 --> 07:34:19,365
THE FUTURE. I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF SEMANTICS.

8974
07:34:19,365 --> 07:34:22,368
IN TERMS OF A CONTINUANCE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT

8975
07:34:22,368 --> 07:34:27,340
THE FULL BOARD WOULD VOTE ON AND COULD EITHER SET

8976
07:34:27,340 --> 07:34:28,341
A DATE CERTAIN, IN WHICH CASE NO FURTHER

8977
07:34:28,341 --> 07:34:30,741
NOTICE WOULD BE NEEDED.

8978
07:34:31,344 --> 07:34:33,346
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE A PREFERENCE TO

8979
07:34:33,346 --> 07:34:34,347
HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, AND IN THAT

8980
07:34:34,347 --> 07:34:37,947
CASE THE BOARD COULD JUST VOTE

8981
07:34:38,351 --> 07:34:39,352
GENERALLY TO CONTINUE.

8982
07:34:39,352 --> 07:34:42,952
>> SET A DATE AND RE-ADVERTISE. >> EXACTLY.

8983
07:34:44,357 --> 07:34:46,757
>> ARE YOU GUYS OKAY?

8984
07:34:47,360 --> 07:34:49,360
APPLICANT OKAY?

8985
07:34:55,368 --> 07:34:58,968
>> HEATHER, ZONING ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT.

8986
07:34:59,339 --> 07:35:01,339
SHE IS THINKING

8987
07:35:02,342 --> 07:35:03,343
, BECAUSE

8988
07:35:03,343 --> 07:35:05,345
THERE ARE A LOT OF DYNAMICS GOING

8989
07:35:05,345 --> 07:35:07,745
ON ON THE SITE

8990
07:35:08,348 --> 07:35:09,349
, AS YOU ALLUDED TO,

8991
07:35:09,349 --> 07:35:10,350
CHAIR. WITH COVID AND THE ECONOMY,

8992
07:35:10,350 --> 07:35:12,352
SHE IS SEEKING THIS EXTENSION BECAUSE

8993
07:35:12,352 --> 07:35:14,354
SHE NEEDS CERTAINTY AS SHE TALKS WITH

8994
07:35:14,354 --> 07:35:16,754
POSSIBLE PURCHASERS AND INVESTORS.

8995
07:35:20,393 --> 07:35:23,396
SHE IS VERY EAGER TO SEE ACTION

8996
07:35:23,396 --> 07:35:25,796
WITH REGARDS THE EXTENSION

8997
07:35:28,401 --> 07:35:29,402
. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS

8998
07:35:29,402 --> 07:35:30,370
OF THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARD

8999
07:35:30,370 --> 07:35:32,372
TO THE CEMETERY. WE ARE NOT TRYING

9000
07:35:32,372 --> 07:35:35,372
TO DISMISS THAT AT ALL.

9001
07:35:35,375 --> 07:35:36,376
>> WE

9002
07:35:36,376 --> 07:35:38,378
WILL PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA AS FAST

9003
07:35:38,378 --> 07:35:39,379
AS WE CAN. >> WE

9004
07:35:39,379 --> 07:35:41,381
HAVE REACHED OUT TO STAFF ABOUT SETTING A MEETING

9005
07:35:41,381 --> 07:35:42,382
TO DISCUSS THE CEMETERY

9006
07:35:42,382 --> 07:35:44,384
AND THE APPLICANT HAS IDEAS FOR THINGS THAT

9007
07:35:44,384 --> 07:35:45,385
SHE CAN DO GOING FORWARD

9008
07:35:45,385 --> 07:35:47,387
TO ALLEVIATE SOME CONCERNS. WE OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THE

9009
07:35:47,387 --> 07:35:49,387
REQUIREMENTS AND

9010
07:35:50,390 --> 07:35:51,391
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE OUT NEXT WEEK

9011
07:35:51,391 --> 07:35:53,393
ON SPRING BREAK. WE ARE DEFINITELY EAGER

9012
07:35:53,393 --> 07:35:56,393
TO MEET WITH STAFF AS

9013
07:35:56,396 --> 07:35:58,796
SOON AS WE CAN.

9014
07:35:59,399 --> 07:36:01,399
>>

9015
07:36:01,401 --> 07:36:02,402
I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO CONTINUE.

9016
07:36:02,402 --> 07:36:04,370
>> CAN

9017
07:36:04,370 --> 07:36:07,373
I ASK ONE QUESTION? IS IT AT ALL POSSIBLE

9018
07:36:07,373 --> 07:36:11,377
, IF THERE IS AN AGREEMENT ON THE EXTENSION,

9019
07:36:11,377 --> 07:36:13,377
TO CONTINUE ON

9020
07:36:14,380 --> 07:36:17,380
THE ISSUE OF THE CEMETERY?

9021
07:36:17,383 --> 07:36:18,384
>> I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS

9022
07:36:18,384 --> 07:36:22,584
BY WHICH WE WOULD MAKE THE CONDITION.

9023
07:36:23,389 --> 07:36:24,390
YOU SAY THAT THIS

9024
07:36:24,390 --> 07:36:28,394
IS THE WAY WE WOULD MAKE A CONDITION?

9025
07:36:28,394 --> 07:36:32,398
>> I WOULD AGREE, CHAIR. FOR THE RECORD

9026
07:36:32,398 --> 07:36:34,398
THAT WOULD PROCEDURALLY

9027
07:36:35,401 --> 07:36:37,801
NOT BE AN OPTION.

9028
07:36:38,371 --> 07:36:39,372
ONCE THE BOARD

9029
07:36:39,372 --> 07:36:40,373
HAS VOTED ON THE EXTENSION THERE IS

9030
07:36:40,373 --> 07:36:43,373
ESSENTIALLY A REFERENCE CLOSE AND

9031
07:36:44,377 --> 07:36:45,378
NO REFERENCE. >> THANK YOU. THAT WAS

9032
07:36:45,378 --> 07:36:48,378
THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE

9033
07:36:51,384 --> 07:36:53,386
THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT WE COULD WORK

9034
07:36:53,386 --> 07:36:55,388
THINGS OUT. >> I WILL TAKE

9035
07:36:55,388 --> 07:36:56,389
A MOTION TO CONTINUE. >> CHAIR, I MAKE

9036
07:36:56,389 --> 07:36:58,389
A

9037
07:36:59,392 --> 07:37:02,395
MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE ON THE

9038
07:37:02,395 --> 07:37:04,795
POPLAR GROVE PRELIMINARY PLAN

9039
07:37:11,371 --> 07:37:14,374
. >> ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY

9040
07:37:14,374 --> 07:37:16,374
AYE. >>

9041
07:37:20,413 --> 07:37:22,413
AYE.

9042
07:37:22,415 --> 07:37:23,416
>> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >>

9043
07:37:23,416 --> 07:37:26,416
WE ARE BACK TO 5-0.

9044
07:37:26,419 --> 07:37:28,419
>> THINK YOU.

9045
07:37:53,413 --> 07:37:56,413
>> [ THE EVENT IS ON A

9046
07:37:56,416 --> 07:37:58,816
RECESS. CAPTIONER ON STANDBY.

9047
07:39:47,427 --> 07:39:51,270
>>> GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S THE MARCH 30th

9048
07:39:53,433 --> 07:39:58,233
2023 PLANNING BOARD. WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 11. ADDITION

9049
07:40:05,411 --> 07:40:07,411
TO RAY'S ADVENTURE

9050
07:40:08,414 --> 07:40:10,414
PRELIMINARY PLAN.

9051
07:40:11,417 --> 07:40:14,420
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR IT.

9052
07:40:14,420 --> 07:40:17,423
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS

9053
07:40:17,423 --> 07:40:19,423
.

9054
07:40:23,429 --> 07:40:25,429
DOES THE ATTORNEY

9055
07:40:26,432 --> 07:40:28,434
WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >> MICHELLE ROSENFIELD

9056
07:40:28,434 --> 07:40:29,435
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. WE HAVE

9057
07:40:29,435 --> 07:40:32,405
REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AND

9058
07:40:32,405 --> 07:40:36,500
WE RECOMMEND A VOTE OF APPROVAL.

9059
07:40:38,411 --> 07:40:40,413
>> IT'S SO NICE TO HAVE AN

9060
07:40:40,413 --> 07:40:41,414
EASY TWO LOT SUBDIVISION. >> I DON'T

9061
07:40:41,414 --> 07:40:43,814
KNOW IF I'M PERSUADED.

9062
07:40:44,417 --> 07:40:47,420
>> OH, NO. IT'S GOING TO BE

9063
07:40:47,420 --> 07:40:49,820
A LONG NIGHT TOO.

9064
07:40:53,426 --> 07:40:56,429
CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF CONDITIONS?

9065
07:40:56,429 --> 07:40:58,429
>>

9066
07:40:59,432 --> 07:41:04,403
I'M MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION

9067
07:41:04,403 --> 07:41:08,603
WITH THE CONDITION FOR ADDITION TO RAISE

9068
07:41:09,408 --> 07:41:11,408
A RANCHER.

9069
07:41:11,410 --> 07:41:13,810
FOR PRELIMINARY CONSERVATION NUMBER

9070
07:41:15,414 --> 07:41:17,414
120200030

9071
07:41:18,451 --> 07:41:20,451
AND

9072
07:41:21,454 --> 07:41:23,454
PRELIMINARY PLAN NUMBER

9073
07:41:24,457 --> 07:41:26,457
120200030 .

9074
07:41:28,461 --> 07:41:30,463
>> WERE THERE TWO ACTIONS WE WERE

9075
07:41:30,463 --> 07:41:32,465
TAKING? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST

9076
07:41:32,465 --> 07:41:36,469
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL. >> THE PRELIMINARY PLAN

9077
07:41:36,469 --> 07:41:37,436
INCLUDES

9078
07:41:37,436 --> 07:41:40,436
A PRELIMINARY FINAL CONSERVATION PLAN.

9079
07:41:42,441 --> 07:41:43,442
IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE ONE

9080
07:41:43,442 --> 07:41:47,642
RESOLUTION THAT COULD BE DONE. >> THANK YOU.

9081
07:41:48,447 --> 07:41:50,847
I HATE CONFUSING MYSELF.

9082
07:41:51,450 --> 07:41:53,450
WE ARE GOOD.

9083
07:41:54,453 --> 07:41:55,454
>> I SECOND THE MOTION.

9084
07:41:55,454 --> 07:41:57,456
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR

9085
07:41:57,456 --> 07:42:00,456
OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

9086
07:42:00,459 --> 07:42:02,459
>> AYE, AYE. >> AYE.

9087
07:42:03,462 --> 07:42:05,462
>>

9088
07:42:06,465 --> 07:42:07,466
THE AYE'S HAVE IT. GREAT

9089
07:42:07,466 --> 07:42:11,660
ADVOCACY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AFTERNOON SESSION

9090
07:42:11,437 --> 07:42:15,441
. DOES EVERYBODY THINK WE CAN MAKE IT BACK

9091
07:42:15,441 --> 07:42:18,444
AS OF 5:30 AT THE START TIME? YES?

9092
07:42:18,444 --> 07:42:20,844
WE ARE STAYING HERE.

9093
07:43:21,474 --> 07:43:23,474
>>

9094
07:43:57,476 --> 07:44:00,479
[ THE EVENT IS ON A RECESS. THE SESSION WILL RECONVENE AT 5:30 PM EST.

9095
07:44:00,479 --> 07:44:02,479
CAPTIONER ON STANDBY ]

9096
08:37:19,175 --> 08:37:20,176
STOMACH I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE

9097
08:37:20,176 --> 08:37:22,176
NATIONALS ARE

9098
08:37:22,178 --> 08:37:23,179
ONLY ONE GAME BELOW .500. THE SEASON

9099
08:37:23,179 --> 08:37:26,179
IS A LITTLE BIT YOUNG.

9100
08:37:26,182 --> 08:37:28,182
WE ARE HERE

9101
08:37:29,185 --> 08:37:31,185
TONIGHT ON ITEM 12,

9102
08:37:31,187 --> 08:37:32,188
BRIEFING AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR LITTLE

9103
08:37:32,188 --> 08:37:34,588
FALLS PARKWAY PILOT PROJECT.

9104
08:37:35,191 --> 08:37:37,193
WE HAVE A LOT OF SPEAKERS. FIRST WE

9105
08:37:37,193 --> 08:37:38,194
ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

9106
08:37:38,194 --> 08:37:40,194
ON

9107
08:37:41,197 --> 08:37:43,597
WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

9108
08:37:44,200 --> 08:37:46,200
WE

9109
08:37:46,202 --> 08:37:47,203
HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY. THIS

9110
08:37:47,203 --> 08:37:50,803
IS THE PRINTOUT FROM THIS MORNING.

9111
08:38:05,187 --> 08:38:07,587
IN ANY EVENT WE

9112
08:38:08,190 --> 08:38:10,192
WILL HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. WE HOPE THAT

9113
08:38:10,192 --> 08:38:11,193
WE DON'T HEAR THE SAME THINGS FROM

9114
08:38:11,193 --> 08:38:15,393
EVERYBODY. YOU DON'T NEED TO REPEAT EVERYTHING.

9115
08:38:23,172 --> 08:38:24,173
WE WILL GIVE INDIVIDUALS THREE MINUTES.

9116
08:38:24,173 --> 08:38:26,173
WE

9117
08:38:26,175 --> 08:38:27,176
HAVE A CLOCK WHERE WE ARE GOING TO

9118
08:38:27,176 --> 08:38:28,177
GET STARTED TO LET

9119
08:38:28,177 --> 08:38:30,179
YOU KNOW HOW YOUR TIME IS GOING. WITH

9120
08:38:30,179 --> 08:38:32,181
THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER

9121
08:38:32,181 --> 08:38:33,182
TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. >> THANK

9122
08:38:33,182 --> 08:38:35,182
YOU, MR. CHAIR.

9123
08:38:36,185 --> 08:38:38,187
I AM THE PARKS DIRECTOR.

9124
08:38:38,187 --> 08:38:39,188
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE TEAM TO

9125
08:38:39,188 --> 08:38:41,188
GO

9126
08:38:42,191 --> 08:38:44,226
RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION.

9127
08:38:44,226 --> 08:38:45,227
>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. MY

9128
08:38:45,227 --> 08:38:46,228
NAME IS

9129
08:38:46,228 --> 08:38:50,428
DARREN. I'M THE DIVISION CHIEF FOR THE

9130
08:38:51,233 --> 08:38:53,633
PARK PLANNING AND STEWARDSHIP.

9131
08:38:54,236 --> 08:38:57,206
HAVE WITH ME ANDREW, KYLE,

9132
08:38:57,206 --> 08:39:00,209
ANDY, AND BRIAN WHITE. THEY WILL INTRODUCE THEMSELVES

9133
08:39:00,209 --> 08:39:02,209
AT THE APPROPRIATE

9134
08:39:03,212 --> 08:39:05,214
TIME FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

9135
08:39:05,214 --> 08:39:07,216
WE ARE PLEASED TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT TO

9136
08:39:07,216 --> 08:39:09,218
DO A PRESENTATION ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

9137
08:39:09,218 --> 08:39:11,218
PILOT PROGRAM

9138
08:39:12,221 --> 08:39:14,221
AND PUBLIC HEARING.

9139
08:39:15,224 --> 08:39:18,824
YOU MAY BE RELIEVED TO KNOW

9140
08:39:20,229 --> 08:39:21,230
WE WILL NOT BE ASKING FOR YOU TO MAKE

9141
08:39:21,230 --> 08:39:22,231
ANY DECISIONS ON THE

9142
08:39:22,231 --> 08:39:24,233
PROJECT THIS EVENING. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY

9143
08:39:24,233 --> 08:39:25,234
TO HEAR FROM PARK STAFF AND

9144
08:39:25,234 --> 08:39:27,236
THE PUBLIC ON THE PROJECT. WE WILL

9145
08:39:27,236 --> 08:39:29,636
RETURN TO YOU ON

9146
08:39:30,206 --> 08:39:33,209
APRIL 13th TO ASK FOR APPROVAL

9147
08:39:33,209 --> 08:39:34,210
FOR THE LONG-TERM CONFIGURATION

9148
08:39:34,210 --> 08:39:36,212
OF TWO OPPOSING DRIVE LANES ON LITTLE FALLS PARK

9149
08:39:36,212 --> 08:39:39,212
WAY BETWEEN ARLINGTON ROAD AND

9150
08:39:39,215 --> 08:39:41,215
ARE SET AVENUE.

9151
08:39:45,221 --> 08:39:46,222
JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE,

9152
08:39:46,222 --> 08:39:48,224
WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE THE COMMENT PERIOD

9153
08:39:48,224 --> 08:39:49,225
OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER

9154
08:39:49,225 --> 08:39:54,250
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPECTED TO TESTIFY TODAY.

9155
08:39:55,231 --> 08:39:59,235
WE WOULD ASK THAT THE BOARD LEAVE

9156
08:39:59,235 --> 08:40:02,835
THE COMMENT PERIOD OPEN UNTIL TUESDAY.

9157
08:40:03,205 --> 08:40:05,207
THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME

9158
08:40:05,207 --> 08:40:08,210
. >> AS LONG AS YOU CAN RESPOND TO

9159
08:40:08,210 --> 08:40:11,810
THE TESTIMONY THIS EVENING. >> THE FOURTH.

9160
08:40:12,214 --> 08:40:14,614
>> WHICH TUESDAY? THE FOURTH?

9161
08:40:18,220 --> 08:40:19,221
>> FOR THE EXTENSION TO TUESDAY.

9162
08:40:19,221 --> 08:40:22,821
>> FOR EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION, WE ARE NOT

9163
08:40:23,225 --> 08:40:27,229
MEETING NEXT WEEK. THE NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 13th

9164
08:40:27,229 --> 08:40:29,231
. WE WILL HEAR FROM STAFF

9165
08:40:29,231 --> 08:40:33,235
RESPONDING TO THE TESTIMONY WE HEAR TONIGHT.

9166
08:40:33,235 --> 08:40:35,204
>> THANK YOU. THIS EVENING

9167
08:40:35,204 --> 08:40:39,208
WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A PROJECT HISTORY AND

9168
08:40:39,208 --> 08:40:41,208
OVERVIEW OF

9169
08:40:41,210 --> 08:40:44,246
THE OPEN PARKWAYS PROGRAM. AND THEN WALK YOU THROUGH

9170
08:40:44,246 --> 08:40:47,846
THE PHASING OF THE PILOT PROGRAM .

9171
08:40:48,250 --> 08:40:49,251
REVIEW SOME

9172
08:40:49,251 --> 08:40:51,253
OF THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT

9173
08:40:51,253 --> 08:40:54,256
WE HAVE COLLECTED DOCUMENTING THIS PROJECT.

9174
08:40:54,256 --> 08:40:57,259
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POTENTIAL

9175
08:40:57,259 --> 08:40:59,259
PARK AND IDEA

9176
08:41:00,262 --> 08:41:02,262
FOR

9177
08:41:03,265 --> 08:41:05,265
--THE COMMON CONCERNS

9178
08:41:06,268 --> 08:41:09,238
THAT WE HAVE HEARD TO THE

9179
08:41:09,238 --> 08:41:11,638
BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

9180
08:41:12,241 --> 08:41:13,242
WITH

9181
08:41:13,242 --> 08:41:18,420
THAT I WILL HAND IT OVER TO ANDREW.

9182
08:41:18,247 --> 08:41:19,248
>> GOOD

9183
08:41:19,248 --> 08:41:21,250
EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ANDREW.

9184
08:41:21,250 --> 08:41:24,253
I'M AN ENGINEER WITH THE PARKS

9185
08:41:24,253 --> 08:41:26,253
DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

9186
08:41:27,256 --> 08:41:29,258
--RUNS FROM JUST SOUTH OF FAIRFAX ROAD

9187
08:41:29,258 --> 08:41:32,858
ALL THE WAY TO MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE.

9188
08:41:33,262 --> 08:41:35,262
THE PORTION OF

9189
08:41:36,265 --> 08:41:38,267
THE PARKWAY IS ABOUT

9190
08:41:38,267 --> 08:41:43,667
HALF A MILE LONG JUST SOUTH OF FAIRFAX ROAD.

9191
08:41:45,241 --> 08:41:47,641
-- RUNNING FROM GEORGETOWN

9192
08:41:48,244 --> 08:41:49,245
ALL THE WAY UP

9193
08:41:49,245 --> 08:41:54,450
TO THE BRANCH TRAIL CROSSES LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

9194
08:41:54,250 --> 08:41:56,250
THE PRE-PILOT CONDITIONS

9195
08:41:57,253 --> 08:41:59,253
--DRIVE

9196
08:41:59,255 --> 08:42:00,256
LANES IN EACH DIRECTION THAT ARE SEPARATED

9197
08:42:00,256 --> 08:42:02,656
BY A GRASS MEDIAN.

9198
08:42:05,261 --> 08:42:08,264
MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS THE FIRST COUNTY

9199
08:42:08,264 --> 08:42:11,267
IN THE UNITED STATES --THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE

9200
08:42:11,267 --> 08:42:12,268
INDUSTRY IN FATALITIES AND INJURIES.

9201
08:42:12,268 --> 08:42:14,270
AS PART OF THAT

9202
08:42:14,270 --> 08:42:18,470
THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE CONFLICT SEVERITY

9203
08:42:20,242 --> 08:42:21,243
. WE COORDINATE A LOT WITH OUR FELLOW AGENCIES

9204
08:42:21,243 --> 08:42:23,243
IN THE COUNTY

9205
08:42:23,245 --> 08:42:24,246
TO IMPLEMENT SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AS

9206
08:42:24,246 --> 08:42:26,646
WELL AS PARK ROADS.

9207
08:42:27,249 --> 08:42:30,252
ONE VERY IMPORTANT TENANT IS THAT

9208
08:42:30,252 --> 08:42:32,252
LIFE TAKES PRIORITY

9209
08:42:33,255 --> 08:42:35,655
OVER THE ROAD SYSTEM.

9210
08:42:39,261 --> 08:42:41,661
ONE OF OUR GOALS

9211
08:42:42,298 --> 08:42:43,299
IS TO REDUCE VEHICULAR SPEEDS.

9212
08:42:43,299 --> 08:42:44,300
BY REDUCING THE VEHICULAR SPEEDS WE

9213
08:42:44,300 --> 08:42:47,900
CAN INCREASE PEDESTRIAN CHANCES OF SURVIVAL

9214
08:42:57,279 --> 08:42:59,281
. THE CHART HERE HIGHLIGHTS THAT AT 20 MILES

9215
08:42:59,281 --> 08:43:00,282
PER HOUR AN IMPACT BETWEEN A VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN, THE PEDESTRIAN HAS

9216
08:43:00,282 --> 08:43:02,282
A LARGE CHANCE

9217
08:43:02,284 --> 08:43:03,285
OF SURVIVAL. DROPS TO 55% AT 30 MILES

9218
08:43:03,285 --> 08:43:05,287
PER HOUR. AT 40 MILES PER HOUR

9219
08:43:05,287 --> 08:43:06,288
THERE IS ONLY A 50% CHANCE OF SURVIVAL. REACTION TIME

9220
08:43:06,288 --> 08:43:07,289
AND DRIVER VISION ALSO

9221
08:43:07,289 --> 08:43:09,258
INCREASES SUBSTANTIALLY THE SLOWER THE

9222
08:43:09,258 --> 08:43:11,260
DRIVER IS GOING. AT 40 MILES PER

9223
08:43:11,260 --> 08:43:15,264
HOUR YOU CAN SEE THE REACTION SPEED IS VERY SMALL.

9224
08:43:15,264 --> 08:43:19,464
IT GIVES DRIVERS MORE TIME TO REACT

9225
08:43:21,270 --> 08:43:24,270
WITH A PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST.

9226
08:43:27,243 --> 08:43:29,243
VISION ZERO

9227
08:43:29,245 --> 08:43:30,246
IS SOMETHING AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE COUNTY.

9228
08:43:30,246 --> 08:43:33,249
THEY RECENTLY INTRODUCED THE SAFE STREETS ACT

9229
08:43:33,249 --> 08:43:36,252
AND THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY COUNCIL IS TO REDUCE

9230
08:43:36,252 --> 08:43:38,252
GOALS. ONE

9231
08:43:38,254 --> 08:43:39,255
EXAMPLE PROJECT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

9232
08:43:39,255 --> 08:43:42,258
IS THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE COORDINATED

9233
08:43:42,258 --> 08:43:44,658
TO CLOSE A SEGMENT

9234
08:43:47,263 --> 08:43:48,264
OF THE NORTHWEST COMPLETELY, YEAR-ROUND,

9235
08:43:48,264 --> 08:43:50,264
TO

9236
08:43:51,267 --> 08:43:53,667
ALLOW FOR RECREATIONAL SPACE.

9237
08:43:54,270 --> 08:43:57,870
THAT ROAD SAW 8000 CARS PER DAY.

9238
08:44:00,242 --> 08:44:02,242
THE

9239
08:44:02,244 --> 08:44:03,245
TRAIL CROSSING IN LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WAS

9240
08:44:03,245 --> 08:44:04,246
HISTORICALLY THE SITE OF FREQUENT CONFLICTS

9241
08:44:04,246 --> 08:44:06,248
BETWEEN TRAIL USERS AND DRIVERS. IN 2016

9242
08:44:06,248 --> 08:44:09,251
THERE WAS A FATALITY WHERE BICYCLIST WAS KILLED

9243
08:44:09,251 --> 08:44:12,251
WHILE CROSSING ON HIS BICYCLE.

9244
08:44:12,254 --> 08:44:15,257
AFTER THAT PARKS IMPLEMENTED IN INTERIM

9245
08:44:15,257 --> 08:44:17,257
--AND SAFETY

9246
08:44:17,259 --> 08:44:18,260
IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CROSSING. HERE

9247
08:44:18,260 --> 08:44:20,660
WE GIVE AN OVERVIEW

9248
08:44:21,263 --> 08:44:26,663
OF THE FLEXIBLE POSTS, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

9249
08:44:27,269 --> 08:44:28,237
AS WELL

9250
08:44:28,237 --> 08:44:29,238
AS ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS WITH SIGNAGE

9251
08:44:29,238 --> 08:44:32,238
AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS. THE OBJECTIVE

9252
08:44:33,242 --> 08:44:36,245
OF THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WERE TO REDUCE

9253
08:44:36,245 --> 08:44:38,645
VEHICLE SPEEDS AND REDUCE

9254
08:44:39,248 --> 08:44:41,283
A MULTIPLE THREAT SCENARIO, WHICH IS

9255
08:44:41,283 --> 08:44:45,287
THE GRAPHIC IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER OVER THERE.

9256
08:44:45,287 --> 08:44:47,687
THAT IS WHERE --SOMEONE

9257
08:44:48,290 --> 08:44:50,690
IS TRYING TO CROSS

9258
08:44:51,293 --> 08:44:53,295
. A VEHICLE IN ONE LANE MAY STOP BUT A VEHICLE IN

9259
08:44:53,295 --> 08:44:55,297
THE OTHER LANE THEY NOT BE ABLE TO STOP

9260
08:44:55,297 --> 08:44:57,697
OR REACT IN TIME

9261
08:45:01,303 --> 08:45:03,272
>> MY NAME IS KYLE LUCAS.

9262
08:45:03,272 --> 08:45:07,276
I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON

9263
08:45:07,276 --> 08:45:08,277
THE OPEN PARKWAYS PROGRAM. YOU

9264
08:45:08,277 --> 08:45:10,279
CAN SEE, IN THIS GRAPHIC, THE FULL

9265
08:45:10,279 --> 08:45:11,280
EXTENT OF THE OPEN PART

9266
08:45:11,280 --> 08:45:15,284
WAY WHEN WE ORIGINALLY LAUNCHED IN APRIL OF 2020

9267
08:45:15,284 --> 08:45:16,285
IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC

9268
08:45:16,285 --> 08:45:17,286
AS A WAY

9269
08:45:17,286 --> 08:45:19,288
TO HELP ALLEVIATE CROWDING ALONG THE CAPITAL

9270
08:45:19,288 --> 08:45:21,288
CRESCENT TRAIL, PROVIDE

9271
08:45:22,291 --> 08:45:24,691
MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE

9272
08:45:27,296 --> 08:45:30,296
--WE STARTED THIS WITH APRIL 2020

9273
08:45:31,300 --> 08:45:33,302
WHEN WE SUSPENDED THE PROGRAM

9274
08:45:33,302 --> 08:45:37,502
DUE TO A VARIETY OF OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES

9275
08:45:38,273 --> 08:45:40,275
. WHILE THAT WAS SUSPENDED WE HEARD A

9276
08:45:40,275 --> 08:45:42,675
LOT OF INPUT ASKING

9277
08:45:43,278 --> 08:45:45,678
US TO REINSTATE IT.

9278
08:45:46,281 --> 08:45:47,282
IN MARCH OF 2021

9279
08:45:47,282 --> 08:45:49,284
WE REINSTATED IT WITH A SMALL EXTENT FROM

9280
08:45:49,284 --> 08:45:50,285
RIVER ROAD UP TO JUST SOUTH OF FAIRFAX

9281
08:45:50,285 --> 08:45:54,485
ROAD. WE KEPT THIS UNTIL JUNE OF 2022.

9282
08:45:58,293 --> 08:46:00,295
WE INSTITUTED PHASE TWO OF THE

9283
08:46:00,295 --> 08:46:04,299
PILOT. A LITTLE INFO ON THE USAGE WE HAVE SEEN

9284
08:46:04,299 --> 08:46:05,300
AT THE OPEN PARKWAYS. WE

9285
08:46:05,300 --> 08:46:07,302
HAVE OPEN PARKWAYS ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

9286
08:46:07,302 --> 08:46:10,272
AS WELL AS BEACH DRIVE.

9287
08:46:10,272 --> 08:46:12,672
WE INSTALLED TRAIL COUNTERS

9288
08:46:13,275 --> 08:46:15,675
AT EACH OF THESE.

9289
08:46:16,278 --> 08:46:18,678
WE SUSPENDED THE PROGRAM

9290
08:46:19,281 --> 08:46:20,282
IN JUNE OF 2022 FOR PHASE

9291
08:46:20,282 --> 08:46:22,284
ONE. WE COUNTED OVER 300,000 USERS,

9292
08:46:22,284 --> 08:46:24,684
WHICH IS ABOUT 3000 USERS

9293
08:46:25,287 --> 08:46:27,289
PER WEEK ON AVERAGE. AS

9294
08:46:27,289 --> 08:46:28,290
YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART THE USE WAS

9295
08:46:28,290 --> 08:46:30,290
HIGHEST AT THE

9296
08:46:30,292 --> 08:46:36,292
START OF THE PROGRAM. WE HAVE SEEN CONSISTENT USE THROUGHOUT.

9297
08:46:37,299 --> 08:46:38,300
EVEN LOOKING BACK A YEAR

9298
08:46:38,300 --> 08:46:43,700
AGO TO LAST FEBRUARY WE ARE STILL SEEING USE

9299
08:46:48,310 --> 08:46:52,314
THE OPEN PARKWAYS AND OTHER STREETS, INCLUDING

9300
08:46:52,314 --> 08:46:55,314
A VARIETY OF OTHER MEASURES

9301
08:46:55,317 --> 08:46:56,318
INCLUDING

9302
08:46:56,318 --> 08:47:00,518
THE TEMPORARY GREENWAYS, PAST RESOLUTION, SUPPORTING THESE,

9303
08:47:01,323 --> 08:47:03,323
AND SUGGESTING THEY

9304
08:47:03,325 --> 08:47:04,326
BECOME PERMANENT AND ENHANCED. WHILE

9305
08:47:04,326 --> 08:47:05,327
THIS

9306
08:47:05,327 --> 08:47:07,329
PROGRAM WAS EXTERNALLY POPULAR AND

9307
08:47:07,329 --> 08:47:08,330
WE SAW A LOT

9308
08:47:08,330 --> 08:47:10,332
OF GREAT RECREATIONAL USE WE HAD THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE

9309
08:47:10,332 --> 08:47:12,332
OF

9310
08:47:13,335 --> 08:47:15,335
CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

9311
08:47:16,305 --> 08:47:17,306
IN

9312
08:47:17,306 --> 08:47:19,308
PARTICULAR IT'S KENNEDY DRIVE. YOU

9313
08:47:19,308 --> 08:47:22,308
CAN SEE IN THIS GRAPHIC

9314
08:47:22,311 --> 08:47:24,711
THAT IT NEARLY DOUBLED

9315
08:47:25,314 --> 08:47:27,314
TO

9316
08:47:28,317 --> 08:47:30,317
17 ON THE WEEKENDS.

9317
08:47:33,322 --> 08:47:34,323
THAT LEADS US TO OUR SOLUTION, WHICH

9318
08:47:34,323 --> 08:47:35,324
WE DEVELOPED IN COORDINATION WITH THE

9319
08:47:35,324 --> 08:47:36,325
MONTGOMERY COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

9320
08:47:36,325 --> 08:47:39,925
THE PROPOSED SOLUTION IS TO SUSPEND

9321
08:47:40,329 --> 08:47:42,729
THE OPEN PARKWAYS PROGRAM .

9322
08:47:43,332 --> 08:47:46,332
AND TO CONDUCT A PILOT

9323
08:47:46,335 --> 08:47:47,336
FOR A

9324
08:47:47,336 --> 08:47:49,304
TWO-LANE SCENARIO WHERE THERE ARE

9325
08:47:49,304 --> 08:47:54,704
TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC AND THE OTHER TWO LANES

9326
08:47:55,310 --> 08:47:56,311
ARE FOR AN OPEN PARKWAY. WE SEE

9327
08:47:56,311 --> 08:47:57,312
THIS WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE

9328
08:47:57,312 --> 08:47:58,313
ARE NO ROAD CLOSURES RESULTING IN

9329
08:47:58,313 --> 08:48:00,313
NEIGHBORHOOD CUT THROUGH

9330
08:48:00,315 --> 08:48:05,320
TRAFFIC. WE HAVE AN OPEN PARKWAY THAT IS AVAILABLE

9331
08:48:05,320 --> 08:48:07,322
24/7. IT IS ALSO A COST-EFFECTIVE

9332
08:48:07,322 --> 08:48:10,325
WAY TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARK AND RECREATIONAL

9333
08:48:10,325 --> 08:48:12,327
SPACE TO OUR SYSTEM AND HELPS TO LOWER OPERATIONAL COST.

9334
08:48:12,327 --> 08:48:15,927
WE HAVE SEVERAL TWO LANE PARKWAYS

9335
08:48:16,331 --> 08:48:18,331
.

9336
08:48:19,334 --> 08:48:21,734
AS WELL AS PARKWAY

9337
08:48:22,304 --> 08:48:24,304
SOUTH.

9338
08:48:25,307 --> 08:48:27,307
THEY HAVE SIMILAR

9339
08:48:28,310 --> 08:48:30,312
LANE WIDTHS. THEY HAVE

9340
08:48:30,312 --> 08:48:31,313
NARROW OR NO SHOULDERS. THEY ARE VERY

9341
08:48:31,313 --> 08:48:33,713
SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD.

9342
08:48:40,355 --> 08:48:41,356
THE FIRST IS TO MAINTAIN SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL ROADS.

9343
08:48:41,356 --> 08:48:43,358
THE SECOND IS TO REDUCE NEIGHBORHOOD

9344
08:48:43,358 --> 08:48:46,361
CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC THE THIRD IS TO

9345
08:48:46,361 --> 08:48:48,363
PRESERVE RICK ADDITIONAL SPACE.

9346
08:48:48,363 --> 08:48:49,364
JUST TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE

9347
08:48:49,364 --> 08:48:51,366
PUBLIC INPUT AND PROCESS THAT

9348
08:48:51,366 --> 08:48:54,369
HAS LED TO THIS POINT. JUST A KIND OF COVER THAT

9349
08:48:54,369 --> 08:48:55,337
, WE SUSPENDED THE OPEN PARKWAYS IN WINTER

9350
08:48:55,337 --> 08:48:57,337
OF 2020. WE

9351
08:48:57,339 --> 08:49:01,539
HEARD STRONG OPPOSITION TO SUSPENDING THE PROGRAM.

9352
08:49:04,346 --> 08:49:06,346
WE STARTED

9353
08:49:07,349 --> 08:49:09,349
, LAST SUMMER,

9354
08:49:10,352 --> 08:49:11,353
CONDUCTING TRAFFIC COUNTS IN LITTLE

9355
08:49:11,353 --> 08:49:15,357
FALLS PARKWAY AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

9356
08:49:15,357 --> 08:49:16,358
AND WHEN THEY SUSPENDED THE OPEN PARKWAYS

9357
08:49:16,358 --> 08:49:18,360
PROGRAM WE INSTITUTED A PILOT PROGRAM IN

9358
08:49:18,360 --> 08:49:21,363
ORDER TO HELP REDUCE THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

9359
08:49:21,363 --> 08:49:22,364
OUR TRAFFIC STUDIES HAVE CONTINUED TO

9360
08:49:22,364 --> 08:49:24,364
MONITOR ALL OF

9361
08:49:25,367 --> 08:49:27,369
THE PHASES OF THIS

9362
08:49:27,369 --> 08:49:28,370
PROJECT. WE HAVE MADE ADJUSTMENTS

9363
08:49:28,370 --> 08:49:31,340
TO EACH OF THE PHASE

9364
08:49:31,340 --> 08:49:33,342
FOR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK

9365
08:49:33,342 --> 08:49:34,343
AND WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. WE POSTED

9366
08:49:34,343 --> 08:49:35,344
THE TRAFFIC DATA TOWER PILOT

9367
08:49:35,344 --> 08:49:37,346
PROJECT WEBSITE SO THAT MEMBERS OF

9368
08:49:37,346 --> 08:49:38,347
THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO

9369
08:49:38,347 --> 08:49:42,351
SEE TRAFFIC COUNTS COLLECTED. AND WE HAVE

9370
08:49:42,351 --> 08:49:43,352
PRESS RELEASES IN ADVANCE OF EACH

9371
08:49:43,352 --> 08:49:45,752
CHANGE WE HAVE MADE.

9372
08:49:46,355 --> 08:49:48,755
IN FEBRUARY WE HOSTED

9373
08:49:55,364 --> 08:49:57,364
--DEDICATED EMAIL

9374
08:49:57,366 --> 08:49:58,367
BOX. WE ARE CURRENTLY HOLDING A PLANNING

9375
08:49:58,367 --> 08:50:01,370
BOARD PUBLIC HEARING AND PLAN TO SOLICIT A

9376
08:50:01,370 --> 08:50:07,342
DECISION ON THE 13th OF APRIL. ONE DECISION TO MAKE

9377
08:50:07,342 --> 08:50:10,342
IN BETHESDA, ABOUT 40% OF HOUSING

9378
08:50:10,345 --> 08:50:11,346
UNITS ARE MULTIUNIT STRUCTURES.

9379
08:50:11,346 --> 08:50:14,346
THESE WILL TYPICALLY LACK BACKYARDS

9380
08:50:16,351 --> 08:50:18,351
. ANOTHER WAY OF

9381
08:50:18,353 --> 08:50:21,356
SAYING THAT, THE DEMAND FOR RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE

9382
08:50:21,356 --> 08:50:22,357
FOR 40% OF THE BETHESDA AREA WOULD

9383
08:50:22,357 --> 08:50:25,357
LIKELY MAKE USE OF THIS.

9384
08:50:25,360 --> 08:50:26,361
TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON

9385
08:50:26,361 --> 08:50:29,961
THE PROJECT PHASING, THE PILOT PROJECT

9386
08:50:31,366 --> 08:50:33,366
GOES

9387
08:50:33,368 --> 08:50:34,369
FROM DORSETT AVENUE ALL THE WAY UP

9388
08:50:34,369 --> 08:50:37,372
TO JUST SOUTH OF FAIRFAX ROAD. YOU

9389
08:50:37,372 --> 08:50:43,372
CAN SEE THAT IN RED HERE. IT'S ALSO WORTH MENTIONING

9390
08:50:46,381 --> 08:50:48,383
, MASSACHUSETTS TO THE RIVER, THAT

9391
08:50:48,383 --> 08:50:49,384
SECTION OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY HAS

9392
08:50:49,384 --> 08:50:51,386
HISTORICALLY BEEN TWO LANES. AND FROM DORSETT UP TO

9393
08:50:51,386 --> 08:50:52,387
FAIRFAX IS NOW TWO LANES IN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION

9394
08:50:52,387 --> 08:50:55,390
BETWEEN RIVER ROAD AND DORSETT AVENUE

9395
08:50:55,390 --> 08:50:58,393
IS FOUR LANES. YOU CAN SEE

9396
08:50:58,393 --> 08:51:01,393
THE TOOLING PORTION IN RED.

9397
08:51:06,401 --> 08:51:07,402
PHASE ONE, WHICH WE INSTITUTED IN JUNE

9398
08:51:07,402 --> 08:51:09,371
OF 2020, WHICH INCLUDED NO OPEN PARKWAY

9399
08:51:09,371 --> 08:51:10,372
AND WAS ESSENTIALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE

9400
08:51:10,372 --> 08:51:12,374
EXISTING INTERIM SINGLE LANE ROAD. YOU CAN

9401
08:51:12,374 --> 08:51:13,375
SEE HERE, WE CLOSE THE OUTSIDE LANES

9402
08:51:13,375 --> 08:51:17,575
AND INSTALLED FLEX POSTS. PHASE TWO FIT

9403
08:51:22,384 --> 08:51:23,385
--CREATED A 24/7 OPEN PARKWAY CONDITION.

9404
08:51:23,385 --> 08:51:25,385
WE INSTALLED THIS

9405
08:51:26,388 --> 08:51:27,389
IN OCTOBER OF 2022.

9406
08:51:27,389 --> 08:51:29,391
THIS PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT

9407
08:51:29,391 --> 08:51:30,392
PHASE TWO LOOKS LIKE.

9408
08:51:30,392 --> 08:51:32,394
I WILL POINT OUT THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE

9409
08:51:32,394 --> 08:51:33,395
TO IMPROVE

9410
08:51:33,395 --> 08:51:36,398
SAFETY FOR THIS. WE APPROVED WATER-FILLED BARRIERS

9411
08:51:36,398 --> 08:51:38,400
AT ALL INTERSECTIONS. WE ALSO MADE

9412
08:51:38,400 --> 08:51:40,400
SOME IMPROVEMENTS

9413
08:51:44,372 --> 08:51:47,376
SO WE ADDED A RIGHT TURN

9414
08:51:47,376 --> 08:51:49,776
BAY ON DARLINGTON ROAD.

9415
08:51:52,380 --> 08:51:53,381
AND FINALLY, I MENTIONED THAT WE MADE CHANGES

9416
08:51:53,381 --> 08:51:54,382
BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT

9417
08:51:54,382 --> 08:51:55,383
WE HAVE RECEIVED AND ONE OF THOSE

9418
08:51:55,383 --> 08:51:56,384
WE DID AS WE INSTALLED FLEX POST AT

9419
08:51:56,384 --> 08:51:58,384
THE

9420
08:51:58,386 --> 08:52:01,389
DIVERGING AREA IN ORDER TO HELP CLARIFY. WE WILL TOUCH

9421
08:52:01,389 --> 08:52:02,390
ON A FEW MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS TO

9422
08:52:02,390 --> 08:52:04,390
GUIDE WHAT

9423
08:52:05,394 --> 08:52:07,794
WE ARE DOING HERE.

9424
08:52:11,399 --> 08:52:17,372
WE HAVE THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN, ALL THREE OF THESE

9425
08:52:17,372 --> 08:52:18,340
TOUCH ON THE FACT

9426
08:52:18,340 --> 08:52:19,341
THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER USING SPACE

9427
08:52:19,341 --> 08:52:23,345
THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN ALLOCATED TO AUTOMOBILES

9428
08:52:23,345 --> 08:52:25,345
WITH TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES

9429
08:52:31,353 --> 08:52:32,354
FOR USERS OF ALL ABILITIES, WHETHER

9430
08:52:32,354 --> 08:52:34,356
THEY ARE WALKING, BIKING, OR USING

9431
08:52:34,356 --> 08:52:35,357
OTHER MODES. THERE'S ALSO THE WESTPARK SECTOR

9432
08:52:35,357 --> 08:52:36,391
PLAN, WHICH I

9433
08:52:36,391 --> 08:52:38,393
WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS FROM.

9434
08:52:38,393 --> 08:52:39,394
I

9435
08:52:39,394 --> 08:52:41,396
WILL READ THIS QUOTE AT THE TOP HERE,

9436
08:52:41,396 --> 08:52:42,397
WHICH IS VERY RELEVANT TO THIS

9437
08:52:42,397 --> 08:52:43,398
STUDY AREA. THE QUOTE IS, WHILE THE

9438
08:52:43,398 --> 08:52:44,399
AUTOMOBILE STILL NEEDS TO BE ACCOMMODATED

9439
08:52:44,399 --> 08:52:46,399
DUE TO

9440
08:52:47,402 --> 08:52:49,802
TRANSIT IN THIS AREA

9441
08:52:53,375 --> 08:52:54,376
INDICATES A SHIFT AWAY FROM THE AUTOMOBILE.

9442
08:52:54,376 --> 08:52:55,377
THIS SHIFT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO

9443
08:52:55,377 --> 08:52:56,378
USE THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR

9444
08:52:56,378 --> 08:52:58,380
NEED OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES OTHER

9445
08:52:58,380 --> 08:52:59,381
THAN JUST ROAD CAPACITY. THE SECTOR PLAN

9446
08:52:59,381 --> 08:53:00,382
ALSO CONDUCTED A TRANSPORTATION

9447
08:53:00,382 --> 08:53:04,386
ANALYSIS, FORECASTING UP TO THE FUTURE YEARS OF 2040.

9448
08:53:04,386 --> 08:53:08,390
AND THAT ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THERE IS

9449
08:53:08,390 --> 08:53:10,390
ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE

9450
08:53:13,395 --> 08:53:14,396
, EVEN CONSIDERING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS

9451
08:53:14,396 --> 08:53:15,397
OCCURRING. FINALLY,

9452
08:53:15,397 --> 08:53:17,399
THE WESTPARK SECTOR PLAN ALSO ENDORSES

9453
08:53:17,399 --> 08:53:18,400
MAKING LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

9454
08:53:18,400 --> 08:53:23,371
A TWO-LANE ROAD BETWEEN DORSETT AVENUE AND MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE.

9455
08:53:23,371 --> 08:53:26,374
A LOT OF THIS IS HELPING TO GUIDE OUR DECISION HERE.

9456
08:53:26,374 --> 08:53:28,376
AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO

9457
08:53:28,376 --> 08:53:29,377
ANDREW TO TALK ABOUT THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC

9458
08:53:29,377 --> 08:53:30,378
COUNTS. >>

9459
08:53:30,378 --> 08:53:32,380
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULD LIKE

9460
08:53:32,380 --> 08:53:35,380
TO TAKE A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW

9461
08:53:35,383 --> 08:53:37,383
. LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

9462
08:53:38,386 --> 08:53:40,786
WE FOUND THAT TRAFFIC

9463
08:53:41,389 --> 08:53:43,389
HAS DECREASED 35%

9464
08:53:44,392 --> 08:53:46,392
SINCE THEN.

9465
08:53:49,397 --> 08:53:50,398
RIVER ROAD, BETWEEN THE D.C. LINE AND

9466
08:53:50,398 --> 08:53:51,399
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY, THAT IS A FOUR

9467
08:53:51,399 --> 08:53:56,199
LANE ROAD. TRAFFIC TRENDS HAVE BEEN DROPPING SINCE 2001

9468
08:53:56,371 --> 08:53:59,374
. NOW WE ARE DOWN TO ABOUT 20%.

9469
08:53:59,374 --> 08:54:01,376
WISCONSIN AVENUE, THE CLOSE

9470
08:54:01,376 --> 08:54:05,380
--AT BETHESDA. ALSO A FOUR LANE ROAD.

9471
08:54:05,380 --> 08:54:08,383
IT HAS INCREASED 20% AS WELL SINCE

9472
08:54:08,383 --> 08:54:09,384
2003. THE SOURCE OF THE ROAD

9473
08:54:09,384 --> 08:54:13,584
WERE FROM PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FIELD DATA COUNTS.

9474
08:54:15,390 --> 08:54:17,392
OUR TAKE AWAY FROM THIS INFORMATION

9475
08:54:17,392 --> 08:54:20,395
IS THAT THE GROWTH WE HAVE SEEN

9476
08:54:20,395 --> 08:54:21,396
IN THIS

9477
08:54:21,396 --> 08:54:22,397
POPULATION HAS INCREASED SINCE 2001.

9478
08:54:22,397 --> 08:54:25,397
BUT IT HASN'T NECESSARILY INCREASED

9479
08:54:26,401 --> 08:54:28,403
FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE

9480
08:54:28,403 --> 08:54:29,371
TO COMPARE SIMILAR TWO LANE ROADS

9481
08:54:29,371 --> 08:54:31,371
IN THE

9482
08:54:31,373 --> 08:54:32,374
AREA INTO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. THESE ARE TWO LANE

9483
08:54:32,374 --> 08:54:34,374
CONFIGURATIONS

9484
08:54:35,410 --> 08:54:37,810
WITH MINIMAL SHOULDERS. BETWEEN

9485
08:54:38,413 --> 08:54:40,413
RIVER AND BRADLEY,

9486
08:54:41,416 --> 08:54:43,418
BETWEEN GOLDSBORO AND WILSON. LITTLE

9487
08:54:43,418 --> 08:54:44,419
FALLS PARKWAY, THE LATEST COUNT SHOWED

9488
08:54:44,419 --> 08:54:46,819
ABOUT 10,000 VEHICLES A DAY.

9489
08:54:47,422 --> 08:54:50,425
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LESS

9490
08:54:50,425 --> 08:54:52,425
THAN GOLDSBORO.

9491
08:54:53,428 --> 08:54:55,428
>> [

9492
08:54:56,431 --> 08:54:58,431
CAPTIONERS TRANSITIONING ]

9493
08:55:13,415 --> 08:55:15,415
>>

9494
08:55:16,418 --> 08:55:17,419
IN MAY 2022

9495
08:55:17,419 --> 08:55:18,420
THAT WAS THE FIRST COUNT AND THIS WAS

9496
08:55:18,420 --> 08:55:19,421
BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY PILOT

9497
08:55:19,421 --> 08:55:21,421
PROJECT CONDITION.

9498
08:55:22,424 --> 08:55:24,426
IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER OF 2022,

9499
08:55:24,426 --> 08:55:25,427
THE CONDITIONS WERE IN PLACE WHICH

9500
08:55:25,427 --> 08:55:27,827
WAS ONE LANE IN

9501
08:55:28,430 --> 08:55:30,430
EACH DIRECTION.

9502
08:55:33,435 --> 08:55:34,436
IN DECEMBER OF 2022, THE PHASE TWO

9503
08:55:34,436 --> 08:55:37,405
CONDITIONS WERE PRESENT WHICH WAS

9504
08:55:37,405 --> 08:55:38,406
TWO LANES OPPOSED WITH NO MEDIAN

9505
08:55:38,406 --> 08:55:40,408
SEPARATION AND 24/7, OPEN PARKWAYS

9506
08:55:40,408 --> 08:55:43,411
IN THE LANES THAT ARE NOW CLOSED

9507
08:55:43,411 --> 08:55:45,411
TO TRAFFIC.

9508
08:55:51,419 --> 08:55:52,420
THIS MAP GIVES AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE

9509
08:55:52,420 --> 08:55:53,421
THE NINE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WERE

9510
08:55:53,421 --> 08:55:55,423
TAKEN. WE BELIEVE IT PROVIDES A REALLY

9511
08:55:55,423 --> 08:55:56,424
PROGRESSIVE VIEW OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA

9512
08:55:56,424 --> 08:55:58,426
ADJACENT TO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

9513
08:55:58,426 --> 08:56:01,426
THE FOUR COUNTS WERE SUMMARIZED

9514
08:56:01,429 --> 08:56:03,829
AND AVERAGED INTO WEEKDAY

9515
08:56:04,432 --> 08:56:05,433
WHICH WAS TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY,

9516
08:56:05,433 --> 08:56:07,435
THURSDAY. WE TYPICALLY DISREGARD MONDAY

9517
08:56:07,435 --> 08:56:09,435
AND FRIDAY

9518
08:56:16,411 --> 08:56:17,412
BECAUSE THOSE VOLUMES ARE LOWER THAN TUESDAY,

9519
08:56:17,412 --> 08:56:19,414
WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY. AS WELL AS WE

9520
08:56:19,414 --> 08:56:20,415
CAN TRAFFIC WHICH IS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY,

9521
08:56:20,415 --> 08:56:22,417
OF COURSE. SO ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

9522
08:56:22,417 --> 08:56:23,418
WE SEE A ROUGHLY SIMILAR AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC

9523
08:56:23,418 --> 08:56:24,419
VOLUMES DURING THE WEEKEND WITH AN

9524
08:56:24,419 --> 08:56:25,420
INCREASE IN WEEKEND TRAFFIC BECAUSE

9525
08:56:25,420 --> 08:56:27,422
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IS

9526
08:56:27,422 --> 08:56:28,423
NOW OPEN FULL TIME ON THE WEEKENDS.

9527
08:56:28,423 --> 08:56:30,423
ALSO SEES A

9528
08:56:31,426 --> 08:56:32,427
SIMILAR AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BUT

9529
08:56:32,427 --> 08:56:34,462
INCREASED WEEKEND TRAFFIC BECAUSE

9530
08:56:34,462 --> 08:56:36,862
OF THE ADJACENT LITTLE

9531
08:56:37,465 --> 08:56:39,465
FALLS PARKWAY.

9532
08:56:40,468 --> 08:56:43,438
ARLINGTON ROAD, WE FIND SIMILAR

9533
08:56:43,438 --> 08:56:45,438
CONDITIONS. KENNEDY DRIVE

9534
08:56:46,441 --> 08:56:49,444
IS IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU SEE THAT THERE

9535
08:56:49,444 --> 08:56:51,844
HAS BEEN A DECREASE

9536
08:56:52,447 --> 08:56:53,448
IN

9537
08:56:53,448 --> 08:56:55,450
WEEKDAY TRAFFIC AS WELL AS A SUBSTANTIAL

9538
08:56:55,450 --> 08:56:56,451
DECREASE IN WEEKEND TRAFFIC. TO US IT

9539
08:56:56,451 --> 08:56:58,453
SHOWS THAT THE MENTATION OF A TWO

9540
08:56:58,453 --> 08:57:01,456
LANE OPEN CONDITION FOR VEHICLES AS WELL AS

9541
08:57:01,456 --> 08:57:03,456
AN OPEN PARKWAY

9542
08:57:04,459 --> 08:57:05,460
CONDITION IN THE ADJACENT TWO

9543
08:57:05,460 --> 08:57:07,462
LANES HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING

9544
08:57:07,462 --> 08:57:10,462
CUT THEIR TRAFFIC. FAIRFAX ROAD,

9545
08:57:10,465 --> 08:57:12,465
PROCESSING

9546
08:57:13,468 --> 08:57:16,438
THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

9547
08:57:16,438 --> 08:57:18,440
DORSET AVENUE, WEST OF LITTLE

9548
08:57:18,440 --> 08:57:19,441
FALLS PARKWAY, YOU WILL SEE A SLIGHT DECREASE

9549
08:57:19,441 --> 08:57:21,441
IN TRAFFIC VOLUMES.

9550
08:57:22,444 --> 08:57:24,446
DORSET AVENUE EAST OF

9551
08:57:24,446 --> 08:57:25,447
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY HAS ALSO SEEN

9552
08:57:25,447 --> 08:57:27,449
A SLIGHT DECREASE IN TRAFFIC VOLUMES.

9553
08:57:27,449 --> 08:57:28,450
BROOKSIDE DRIVE IS ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY

9554
08:57:28,450 --> 08:57:30,450
AND A

9555
08:57:31,453 --> 08:57:34,453
PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN BOTH

9556
08:57:34,456 --> 08:57:36,856
WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND TRAFFIC.

9557
08:57:43,465 --> 08:57:45,467
AND DORSET AVENUE NORTH OF RIVER

9558
08:57:45,467 --> 08:57:46,468
ROAD WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO MARYLAND 190

9559
08:57:46,468 --> 08:57:47,469
HAS SEEN AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IN THE

9560
08:57:47,469 --> 08:57:49,437
NORTHBOUND DIRECTION WHICH WE PARTLY

9561
08:57:49,437 --> 08:57:50,438
BELIEVE DUE TO THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION WITH THE REALIGNMENT

9562
08:57:50,438 --> 08:57:52,440
ON RICHFIELD ROAD. WE ALSO CONDUCTED

9563
08:57:52,440 --> 08:57:55,443
TRAVEL TIME RUNS. THIS WAS DONE THE

9564
08:57:55,443 --> 08:57:57,443
OLD-FASHIONED WAY

9565
08:57:57,445 --> 08:57:58,446
WITH AN ENGINEER WITH A STOPWATCH

9566
08:57:58,446 --> 08:58:01,449
AND A CAR TRAVELING UP AND DOWN.

9567
08:58:01,449 --> 08:58:04,452
THIS WAS DONE DURING RUSH HOUR, THE BUSIEST

9568
08:58:04,452 --> 08:58:06,852
TIMES OF THE DAY.

9569
08:58:12,460 --> 08:58:13,461
FIVE RUNS WERE DONE IN EACH DIRECTION.

9570
08:58:13,461 --> 08:58:15,463
NORTH SOUTH AND SOUTH AND NORTH. THE

9571
08:58:15,463 --> 08:58:16,464
TRAVEL TIMES WERE AVERAGE FOR THE

9572
08:58:16,464 --> 08:58:17,465
DISTANCE TO GIVE AN AVERAGE TRAVEL SPEED

9573
08:58:17,465 --> 08:58:19,467
AMOUNT PER HOUR. THE TRAVEL SPEED

9574
08:58:19,467 --> 08:58:21,467
ALSO INCLUDES

9575
08:58:23,438 --> 08:58:24,439
THE

9576
08:58:24,439 --> 08:58:25,440
TIME THAT A CAR IS SPENT WAITING AT

9577
08:58:25,440 --> 08:58:26,441
AN INTERSECTION AND THE TIME IT MIGHT

9578
08:58:26,441 --> 08:58:27,442
BE

9579
08:58:27,442 --> 08:58:28,443
WAITING FOR SOME IT ACROSS THE TRAIL,

9580
08:58:28,443 --> 08:58:30,445
FOR EXAMPLE. THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE

9581
08:58:30,445 --> 08:58:31,446
AVERAGE SPEED. WE FOUND THE AVERAGE

9582
08:58:31,446 --> 08:58:32,447
FLEECE FOR SPEEDS BETWEEN STOPLIGHT TO

9583
08:58:32,447 --> 08:58:33,481
STOPLIGHT WERE ABOUT

9584
08:58:33,481 --> 08:58:34,482
25 MILES PER HOUR WHICH IS THE CURRENT

9585
08:58:34,482 --> 08:58:36,484
SPEED LIMIT OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

9586
08:58:36,484 --> 08:58:38,486
USING THOSE AVERAGE SPEEDS WE TRANSLATED

9587
08:58:38,486 --> 08:58:41,489
THAT TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE

9588
08:58:41,489 --> 08:58:44,492
WHICH RESULTED IN A B OR C IN

9589
08:58:44,492 --> 08:58:46,494
ALL DIRECTIONS. B BEING

9590
08:58:46,494 --> 08:58:47,495
BALANCED TO TRAFFIC. IT'S VERY RARE

9591
08:58:47,495 --> 08:58:48,496
FOR

9592
08:58:48,496 --> 08:58:50,498
ANY INTERSECTION OR ANYTHING NEAR

9593
08:58:50,498 --> 08:58:52,498
IT TO BE

9594
08:58:53,501 --> 08:58:54,502
A RATING OF A OUTSIDE OF PEAK

9595
08:58:54,502 --> 08:58:57,502
HOUR CONDITIONS. WE ALSO CONDUCTED

9596
08:58:58,473 --> 08:59:00,873
INTERSECTION TURNING MOVEMENT COUNTS

9597
08:59:02,477 --> 08:59:04,477
TO EVALUATE

9598
08:59:11,486 --> 08:59:12,487
THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES

9599
08:59:12,487 --> 08:59:13,488
THAT ARE GOING TO THE 300 SECTIONS AT

9600
08:59:13,488 --> 08:59:14,489
ARLINGTON, HILLANDALE, AND DORSETT

9601
08:59:14,489 --> 08:59:15,490
AND WE

9602
08:59:15,490 --> 08:59:16,491
FOUND THAT CURRENTLY THE PEAKS ARE

9603
08:59:16,491 --> 08:59:17,492
LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN IN 2018 BUT

9604
08:59:17,492 --> 08:59:18,493
WELL WITHIN

9605
08:59:18,493 --> 08:59:20,495
THE CAPACITY OF THE INTERSECTION IN

9606
08:59:20,495 --> 08:59:23,498
THE ROAD AS WELL AS WE WILL SHOW AND

9607
08:59:23,498 --> 08:59:24,499
A COUPLE SITES. THE CRASH

9608
08:59:24,499 --> 08:59:25,500
DATA WAS VERY COMPELLING. WE FOUND

9609
08:59:25,500 --> 08:59:26,501
THE CRASHES BETWEEN ARLINGTON ROAD

9610
08:59:26,501 --> 08:59:28,501
AND HILLANDALE SINCE

9611
08:59:28,503 --> 08:59:29,470
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ROAD DIET SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

9612
08:59:29,470 --> 08:59:30,471
OF

9613
08:59:30,471 --> 08:59:34,710
2017 AND MADE THAT SEGMENT SUBSTANTIALLY SAFER.

9614
08:59:35,476 --> 08:59:37,478
ON THE LEFT, THAT IS A TOTAL CRASHES BETWEEN

9615
08:59:37,478 --> 08:59:38,479
ARLINGTON AND HILLANDALE. INCLUDES

9616
08:59:38,479 --> 08:59:40,479
VEHICLE

9617
08:59:40,481 --> 08:59:44,810
CRASHES AS WELL. THAT DROPPED FROM

9618
08:59:53,494 --> 08:59:55,496
EIGHT IN 2016 AND WE

9619
08:59:55,496 --> 08:59:56,497
HAD A TOTAL OF TWO AND 2022 AND WE

9620
08:59:56,497 --> 08:59:57,498
WERE HAPPIEST TO SEE

9621
08:59:57,498 --> 08:59:58,499
THAT ACTUALLY AT THE CROSSING ITSELF

9622
08:59:58,499 --> 08:59:59,500
THE NUMBER OF CRASHES FOR THE PAST

9623
08:59:59,500 --> 09:00:01,500
THREE YEARS COMBINED

9624
09:00:02,503 --> 09:00:04,472
HAS BEEN ZERO.

9625
09:00:04,472 --> 09:00:05,473
COMPARED TO SIX AND 2016 INCLUDING

9626
09:00:05,473 --> 09:00:06,474
A FATALITY. WE HAVE BEEN

9627
09:00:06,474 --> 09:00:08,476
ASKED ABOUT AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED

9628
09:00:08,476 --> 09:00:09,477
NEAR THE CROSSING IN DECEMBER OF 2022, THAT WAS

9629
09:00:09,477 --> 09:00:11,479
AN UNUSUAL SITUATION WHERE A DRIVER

9630
09:00:11,479 --> 09:00:12,480
GOT ON THE TRAIL OVER THE

9631
09:00:12,480 --> 09:00:13,481
D.C. LINE, DROVE UP THE TRAIL FOR

9632
09:00:13,481 --> 09:00:14,482
SEVEN MILES AND THEN ACTUALLY HIT

9633
09:00:14,482 --> 09:00:16,484
A PEDESTRIAN CLOSE TO

9634
09:00:16,484 --> 09:00:21,284
THE CROSSING BUT THAT IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

9635
09:00:22,490 --> 09:00:25,493
EMERGENCY RESPONSE, WE HAVE MET WITH

9636
09:00:25,493 --> 09:00:26,494
MONTGOMERY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND

9637
09:00:26,494 --> 09:00:28,494
THEY EXPRESSED

9638
09:00:29,497 --> 09:00:31,497
NO CONCERNS

9639
09:00:31,532 --> 09:00:32,533
WITH THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. IT'S

9640
09:00:32,533 --> 09:00:34,533
A CONFIGURATION THAT

9641
09:00:47,515 --> 09:00:48,516
FIRE RESCUE IS USED TO

9642
09:00:48,516 --> 09:00:49,517
DEALING WITH ON ROADS THROUGHOUT THE

9643
09:00:49,517 --> 09:00:50,518
COUNTY. WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE HAS

9644
09:00:50,518 --> 09:00:51,519
BEEN A

9645
09:00:51,519 --> 09:00:52,520
LETTER WRITTEN BY A CHIEF OFFICER

9646
09:00:52,520 --> 09:00:53,521
EXPRESSING SAFETY CONCERNS BUT WE

9647
09:00:53,521 --> 09:00:54,522
RECEIVED AN EMAIL

9648
09:00:54,522 --> 09:00:56,524
FROM CHIEF BAILEY WHO IS AN OPERATIONS

9649
09:00:56,524 --> 09:00:57,525
CHIEF WITH FRS THAT SAID THAT AND THIS IS

9650
09:00:57,525 --> 09:00:59,527
THE QUOTE, THAT LETTER DOES NOT REPRESENT

9651
09:00:59,527 --> 09:01:00,528
THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF FRS ON THE

9652
09:01:00,528 --> 09:01:02,530
ISSUE OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. AND

9653
09:01:02,530 --> 09:01:05,533
CHIEF BAILEY AS WELL AS A SPOKESWOMAN

9654
09:01:05,533 --> 09:01:06,534
FOR THE SCHOOLS DID GIVE AN INTERVIEW

9655
09:01:06,534 --> 09:01:08,536
IN THE WASHINGTON POST AND THERE ARE

9656
09:01:08,536 --> 09:01:10,505
COUPLE OF QUOTES THERE THAT YOU CAN READ

9657
09:01:10,505 --> 09:01:11,506
REGARDING THE ISSUE. BUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS

9658
09:01:11,506 --> 09:01:12,507
HAVE NOT EXPRESSED ANY CONCERNS

9659
09:01:12,507 --> 09:01:13,508
WITH THE TWO-WAY CONFIGURATION. WE

9660
09:01:13,508 --> 09:01:14,509
HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH POLICE

9661
09:01:14,509 --> 09:01:16,509
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

9662
09:01:19,514 --> 09:01:23,114
THEY SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES

9663
09:01:23,518 --> 09:01:24,519
REDUCTION IN

9664
09:01:24,519 --> 09:01:26,521
DRIVE LANES AND THEY BELIEVE THAT RESPONSE

9665
09:01:26,521 --> 09:01:29,490
TIMES ARE NOT IMPACTED BY

9666
09:01:29,490 --> 09:01:31,490
THIS CONFIGURATION.

9667
09:01:32,493 --> 09:01:34,495
FUTURE TRAFFIC GROWTH IS A

9668
09:01:34,495 --> 09:01:35,496
QUESTION THAT WE GET ASKED A LOT ABOUT

9669
09:01:35,496 --> 09:01:38,499
THIS PROJECT. SO, NEW DEVELOPMENT IN

9670
09:01:38,499 --> 09:01:40,499
THE COUNTY

9671
09:01:40,501 --> 09:01:41,502
UNDERGOES A LOCAL AREA TRANSPORTATION

9672
09:01:41,502 --> 09:01:43,902
REVIEW TO DETERMINE WHETHER

9673
09:01:44,472 --> 09:01:45,473
OR NOT FACILITIES CAN

9674
09:01:45,473 --> 09:01:47,475
ACCOMMODATE DEVELOPMENT. WE WENT AND

9675
09:01:47,475 --> 09:01:49,875
WE LOOKED AT THE 2018

9676
09:01:50,478 --> 09:01:51,479
WESTWOOD PROPERTIES

9677
09:01:51,479 --> 09:01:53,481
TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THEM HE FOUND

9678
09:01:53,481 --> 09:01:55,483
THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY RESULTED IN

9679
09:01:55,483 --> 09:01:56,484
ADDITIONAL TRIPS IN BOTH THE MORNING

9680
09:01:56,484 --> 09:01:58,484
AND AFTERNOON

9681
09:01:59,487 --> 09:02:01,489
ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AND

9682
09:02:01,489 --> 09:02:02,490
WE HAVE QUANTIFIED WHAT THAT INCREASE IN

9683
09:02:02,490 --> 09:02:05,490
TRIPS WAS. IT IS ABOUT

9684
09:02:05,493 --> 09:02:07,493
3.3%, 6.6% IN THE MORNING

9685
09:02:07,495 --> 09:02:08,496
AND SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND DIRECTIONS

9686
09:02:08,496 --> 09:02:10,496
AND 8% AND 5%

9687
09:02:11,499 --> 09:02:14,499
IN THE AFTERNOON SOUTHBOUND AND

9688
09:02:14,502 --> 09:02:15,503
NORTHBOUND, RESPECTIVELY. THE FULL

9689
09:02:15,503 --> 09:02:17,472
AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, WHICH RESULTS FROM

9690
09:02:17,472 --> 09:02:19,872
THE FULL PULLED OUT

9691
09:02:23,478 --> 09:02:24,479
STILL RESULTS IN LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY PEAK HOURS

9692
09:02:24,479 --> 09:02:26,481
BEING BELOW THE 2016 VOLUMES. SO,

9693
09:02:26,481 --> 09:02:28,483
HOW MUCH TRAFFIC DO WE THINK THE PARKWAY

9694
09:02:28,483 --> 09:02:31,519
CAN ACCOMMODATE WITH A TWO-WAY CONFIGURATION

9695
09:02:31,519 --> 09:02:34,522
WITH TURN POCKETS? WE LOOKED AT THE MODEL

9696
09:02:34,522 --> 09:02:35,523
AND WE BELIEVE THERE IS ADDITIONAL

9697
09:02:35,523 --> 09:02:37,523
CAPACITY FOR

9698
09:02:38,526 --> 09:02:40,526
UP TO

9699
09:02:44,532 --> 09:02:45,533
350 CARS PER HOUR IN

9700
09:02:45,533 --> 09:02:46,534
EACH DIRECTION BEFORE HITTING CRITICAL

9701
09:02:46,534 --> 09:02:47,535
THRESHOLDS. THIS IS A 35% INCREASE

9702
09:02:47,535 --> 09:02:49,535
FROM 2016 CONDITIONS AND

9703
09:02:49,537 --> 09:02:50,505
IT'S A 50% INCREASE FROM CURRENT 2022

9704
09:02:50,505 --> 09:02:53,508
PEAK VOLUMES. TYPICAL TWO LANE ROADS

9705
09:02:53,508 --> 09:02:55,510
WITH TURN POCKETS CAN PROCESS

9706
09:02:55,510 --> 09:02:56,511
ABOUT 20,000 CARS A DAY AND RIGHT

9707
09:02:56,511 --> 09:02:58,911
NOW THE PARKWAY SEES

9708
09:03:01,516 --> 09:03:02,517
10,000. THERE'S 100% CAPACITY AS FAR

9709
09:03:02,517 --> 09:03:04,519
AS CARS PER DAY AND

9710
09:03:04,519 --> 09:03:05,520
WE THINK A 50% INCREASE CAPACITY FOR

9711
09:03:05,520 --> 09:03:07,520
PEAK VOLUMES.

9712
09:03:08,523 --> 09:03:10,923
AS COMMENTED EARLIER, THE 2016

9713
09:03:11,526 --> 09:03:14,529
PLAN MODELS TRAFFIC THROUGH 2040 AND FINDS WITH

9714
09:03:14,529 --> 09:03:16,531
FULL BUILDOUT AS WELL AS A KNOWN

9715
09:03:16,531 --> 09:03:19,531
DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK

9716
09:03:23,504 --> 09:03:26,507
IS IN BALANCE WITH THE LAND USE AND DENSITIES AND IT ALSO ENDORSED A

9717
09:03:26,507 --> 09:03:28,507
TWO LANE PARKWAY.

9718
09:03:29,510 --> 09:03:30,511
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TOUCH ON THE

9719
09:03:30,511 --> 09:03:32,513
DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH ISN'T NECESSARILY

9720
09:03:32,513 --> 09:03:33,514
STATIC. ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO GO INTO

9721
09:03:33,514 --> 09:03:35,516
THE INFRASTRUCTURE REVIEW AND IF THE

9722
09:03:35,516 --> 09:03:37,516
REVIEW FINDS THAT

9723
09:03:40,521 --> 09:03:41,522
EXISTING FACILITIES CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THAT

9724
09:03:41,522 --> 09:03:43,524
GROWTH THEN THERE ARE CONDITIONS

9725
09:03:43,524 --> 09:03:44,525
AS PER THEIR APPROVAL AND AS AN EXAMPLE,

9726
09:03:44,525 --> 09:03:46,525
THE APPROVAL REQUIRED

9727
09:03:48,529 --> 09:03:50,529
MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS, CONNECTIONS

9728
09:03:50,531 --> 09:03:52,533
TO BUS STATIONS, CONNECTIONS TO SIDEWALKS, AS WELL

9729
09:03:52,533 --> 09:03:53,534
AS REALIGNMENT OF WESTWOOD AVENUE

9730
09:03:53,534 --> 09:03:55,534
AT RIDGEFIELD ROAD.

9731
09:03:59,507 --> 09:04:02,510
TO SUMMARIZE, THE REDUCTION IN DRIVE LANES

9732
09:04:02,510 --> 09:04:04,512
AND VEHICLE SPEEDS, WITH

9733
09:04:04,512 --> 09:04:05,513
THE PILOT PROJECT IT IS SAFER AND

9734
09:04:05,513 --> 09:04:09,517
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR VISION ZERO

9735
09:04:09,517 --> 09:04:10,518
GOALS AND IT HAS RESULTED IN WE

9736
09:04:10,518 --> 09:04:13,518
BELIEVE SAFER CONDITIONS FOR DRIVERS

9737
09:04:17,525 --> 09:04:18,526
AS WELL AS ADJACENT TRAIL USERS AND

9738
09:04:18,526 --> 09:04:19,527
USERS THAT

9739
09:04:19,527 --> 09:04:21,529
ARE UTILIZING THE CURRENT CLOSED LANES.

9740
09:04:21,529 --> 09:04:24,529
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE ELIMINATED

9741
09:04:25,533 --> 09:04:26,534
THE RESIDUAL CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM

9742
09:04:26,534 --> 09:04:27,535
THE OPEN PARKWAYS PROGRAM. WE ARE

9743
09:04:27,535 --> 09:04:28,536
STILL

9744
09:04:28,536 --> 09:04:30,538
MAINTAINING FULL VEHICLE USE FOR LITTLE

9745
09:04:30,538 --> 09:04:31,539
FALLS PARKWAY.

9746
09:04:31,539 --> 09:04:33,541
AS WELL AS ALLOWING 24/7 OPEN SPACE

9747
09:04:33,541 --> 09:04:34,542
AND RECREATIONAL USE ON THE

9748
09:04:34,542 --> 09:04:37,545
POTENTIAL REPURPOSED LANDS. THE TRAVEL TIMES

9749
09:04:37,545 --> 09:04:39,547
FROM THE SPEED RUNS WE HAVE CONDUCTED

9750
09:04:39,547 --> 09:04:41,947
OUR REASONABLE AND IN

9751
09:04:42,550 --> 09:04:43,551
LINE WITH OUR SPEED LIMIT OF LITTLE

9752
09:04:43,551 --> 09:04:45,553
FALLS PARKWAY AND OUR SAFETY GOALS

9753
09:04:45,553 --> 09:04:47,553
AND

9754
09:04:47,555 --> 09:04:48,556
WE BELIEVE THAT THE TWO LANE PARKWAY

9755
09:04:48,556 --> 09:04:50,556
HAS

9756
09:04:51,559 --> 09:04:54,562
SUBSTANTIAL ROOM -- SUBSTANTIAL CAPACITY FOR ADDITIONAL

9757
09:04:54,562 --> 09:04:55,563
FUTURE GROWTH

9758
09:04:55,563 --> 09:04:57,565
AND THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY

9759
09:04:57,565 --> 09:04:59,565
CONCERNS FROM FRS,

9760
09:04:59,567 --> 09:05:00,568
MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR PARK

9761
09:05:00,568 --> 09:05:02,568
POLICE REGARDING

9762
09:05:03,538 --> 09:05:05,538
THE PILOT PROJECT

9763
09:05:06,541 --> 09:05:07,542
TWO-WAY CONFIGURATION. THERE ARE OTHER

9764
09:05:07,542 --> 09:05:09,544
BENEFITS AS WELL. THE SPACE CAN BE

9765
09:05:09,544 --> 09:05:12,544
REPURPOSED FOR LINEAR PARK OR

9766
09:05:12,547 --> 09:05:14,549
OTHER USAGE. IT REDUCES

9767
09:05:14,549 --> 09:05:17,549
PARKS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL COSTS.

9768
09:05:22,557 --> 09:05:24,559
THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

9769
09:05:24,559 --> 09:05:25,560
THIS WAS A PILOT PROJECT SO IT IS

9770
09:05:25,560 --> 09:05:26,561
AN INTERIM CONDITION. CERTAINLY THERE

9771
09:05:26,561 --> 09:05:27,562
ARE MIRRORS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO

9772
09:05:27,562 --> 09:05:29,562
EVALUATE AND

9773
09:05:30,565 --> 09:05:33,565
ASSESS AND FIRST AND FOREMOST

9774
09:05:36,537 --> 09:05:37,538
THAT WOULD BE ADDING

9775
09:05:37,538 --> 09:05:39,540
A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE AT LITTLE

9776
09:05:39,540 --> 09:05:40,541
FALLS PARKWAY ON ARLINGTON ROAD. THAT

9777
09:05:40,541 --> 09:05:41,542
WOULD REDUCE THE STACKING THAT OCCURS ON

9778
09:05:41,542 --> 09:05:42,543
THE CROSSING AS WELL AS REDUCE THE

9779
09:05:42,543 --> 09:05:43,544
BACKUPS AT

9780
09:05:43,544 --> 09:05:44,545
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AND THE STOPLIGHT

9781
09:05:44,545 --> 09:05:45,546
WITH ARLINGTON ROAD. WE WOULD EXTEND

9782
09:05:45,546 --> 09:05:46,547
THE

9783
09:05:46,547 --> 09:05:47,548
DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE AT LITTLE

9784
09:05:47,548 --> 09:05:48,549
FALLS PARKWAY AND HILLANDALE ROAD.

9785
09:05:48,549 --> 09:05:50,949
WE WOULD ALSO ACCESS

9786
09:05:51,552 --> 09:05:53,554
THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO SEE IF THERE ARE

9787
09:05:53,554 --> 09:05:54,555
ANY AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE TIMING

9788
09:05:54,555 --> 09:05:55,556
TO

9789
09:05:55,556 --> 09:05:57,558
SPEED THE FLOW UP A LITTLE BIT. WE WOULD

9790
09:05:57,558 --> 09:06:00,561
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THEIR CROSSING SAFETY

9791
09:06:00,561 --> 09:06:01,562
AS WELL AS

9792
09:06:01,562 --> 09:06:05,162
TRAFFIC FLOW FOR REGULAR TRAFFIC COUNTS.

9793
09:06:06,567 --> 09:06:07,568
>>

9794
09:06:07,568 --> 09:06:09,570
SO, I'M GOING TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE

9795
09:06:09,570 --> 09:06:11,570
PILOT PARK

9796
09:06:17,545 --> 09:06:18,546
CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED. AS FAR

9797
09:06:18,546 --> 09:06:20,548
AS NEXT STEPS REPRODUCING THE LANES, IF THE BOARD

9798
09:06:20,548 --> 09:06:21,549
APPROVES THE CURRENT ROAD CONFIGURATION

9799
09:06:21,549 --> 09:06:24,552
ON APRIL 13th THEN MONTGOMERY PARKS

9800
09:06:24,552 --> 09:06:26,552
WOULD WORK TO

9801
09:06:26,554 --> 09:06:27,555
ACTIVATE THE LINEAR PILOT PARK. THERE'S

9802
09:06:27,555 --> 09:06:28,589
A BRIEF

9803
09:06:28,589 --> 09:06:29,590
RENDERING SHOWING THAT WE WOULD HAVE ROOM FOR

9804
09:06:29,590 --> 09:06:30,591
SHARED USE PATH RUNNING THROUGH THAT

9805
09:06:30,591 --> 09:06:32,591
SIDE

9806
09:06:32,593 --> 09:06:33,594
AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE . HERE ARE A

9807
09:06:33,594 --> 09:06:34,595
COUPLE OF PICTURES OF

9808
09:06:34,595 --> 09:06:35,596
PREVIOUS ACTIVATION EFFORTS BY THE

9809
09:06:35,596 --> 09:06:36,597
PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS IN MONTGOMERY

9810
09:06:36,597 --> 09:06:38,597
COUNTY. THIS

9811
09:06:39,600 --> 09:06:41,600
IS THE

9812
09:06:42,603 --> 09:06:43,571
BETHESDA STREET

9813
09:06:43,571 --> 09:06:45,573
ARRAY, LIVE MUSIC, A COUPLE OF OTHER

9814
09:06:45,573 --> 09:06:46,574
THINGS. WE USE SOME OF THESE

9815
09:06:46,574 --> 09:06:48,576
IDEA TO DEVELOP A PILOT PARK CONCEPT

9816
09:06:48,576 --> 09:06:50,578
THAT FEATURES A VARIETY OF USES

9817
09:06:50,578 --> 09:06:55,378
SO, SEATING FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE A BREAK

9818
09:06:55,583 --> 09:06:57,585
, A VARIETY OF GAMES, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

9819
09:06:57,585 --> 09:06:59,585
HAS A LOT

9820
09:07:01,589 --> 09:07:02,590
OF THINGS THAT WE COULD REUSE INCLUDING

9821
09:07:02,590 --> 09:07:03,591
PING-PONG TABLES, CORN HOLE SETS,

9822
09:07:03,591 --> 09:07:05,591
OTHER THINGS LIKE

9823
09:07:05,593 --> 09:07:06,594
THAT. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT A LEARN

9824
09:07:06,594 --> 09:07:08,594
TO RIDE

9825
09:07:18,572 --> 09:07:19,573
TRAFFIC

9826
09:07:19,573 --> 09:07:20,574
SKILLS, TRAFFIC SAFETY AREA WHERE

9827
09:07:20,574 --> 09:07:22,576
YOU CAN LEARN TO RIDE A BIKE. WE'VE HEARD

9828
09:07:22,576 --> 09:07:23,577
FROM ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO

9829
09:07:23,577 --> 09:07:24,578
IS TEACHING LEARN TO RIDE LESSONS

9830
09:07:24,578 --> 09:07:25,579
OUT ON THIS

9831
09:07:25,579 --> 09:07:27,581
AREA ALREADY AND DESCRIBES IT AS A

9832
09:07:27,581 --> 09:07:28,582
REALLY GREAT AREA TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU

9833
09:07:28,582 --> 09:07:30,584
HAVE A GENTLE GRADE AND WIDE OPEN

9834
09:07:30,584 --> 09:07:31,585
AND A LOT OF SAFETY. WE ALSO

9835
09:07:31,585 --> 09:07:33,587
HAVE A VARIETY OF SKATE FEATURES,

9836
09:07:33,587 --> 09:07:35,589
SO WE WOULD LOOK TO INSTALL SOME OF THOSE

9837
09:07:35,589 --> 09:07:36,590
OUT OF HERE. SOME NATURAL PLAY AREAS FOR YOUNGER

9838
09:07:36,590 --> 09:07:38,590
CHILDREN

9839
09:07:39,593 --> 09:07:41,593
AND ESSENTIALLY

9840
09:07:42,596 --> 09:07:43,597
A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING WAYS

9841
09:07:43,597 --> 09:07:44,598
THAT WE COULD ACTIVATE AND PROGRAM

9842
09:07:44,598 --> 09:07:45,599
THIS SPACE. SO, CONTINUING ON THE

9843
09:07:45,599 --> 09:07:47,599
NEXT STEPS, AFTER

9844
09:07:47,601 --> 09:07:48,602
WE ACTIVATE THE LINEAR PILOT PARK

9845
09:07:48,602 --> 09:07:50,602
WE WOULD THEN

9846
09:07:56,577 --> 09:07:57,578
INITIATE A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR A PERMANENT

9847
09:07:57,578 --> 09:07:58,579
PARK

9848
09:07:58,579 --> 09:08:00,581
FACILITY PLAN AT THIS LOCATION. WE WOULD

9849
09:08:00,581 --> 09:08:01,582
THEN COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD

9850
09:08:01,582 --> 09:08:03,584
TO PRESENT THAT FACILITY PLAN AND IF

9851
09:08:03,584 --> 09:08:06,587
AFTER YOU REVIEW WE REGAIN APPROVAL

9852
09:08:06,587 --> 09:08:07,588
WE WOULD MOVE INTO A PERMANENT PARK DESIGN

9853
09:08:07,588 --> 09:08:09,590
AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE. ONE THING

9854
09:08:09,590 --> 09:08:11,592
I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS THAT ALONG OUR

9855
09:08:11,592 --> 09:08:12,593
PARKWAYS, BOTH BEACH DRIVE AND SLIGO CREEK

9856
09:08:12,593 --> 09:08:14,593
WE ALREADY

9857
09:08:15,596 --> 09:08:17,596
HAVE A

9858
09:08:18,599 --> 09:08:19,600
NUMBER OF AMENITIES THAT ARE

9859
09:08:19,600 --> 09:08:21,602
LOCATED CLOSE TO THE TRAILS AS WELL AS

9860
09:08:21,602 --> 09:08:24,572
ROADWAYS WITH AIR AND THAT AS A PART

9861
09:08:24,572 --> 09:08:28,172
OF MAKING THIS MORE OF A

9862
09:08:35,616 --> 09:08:36,617
PERMANENT PROJECT, IF WE HAVE THE GREEN

9863
09:08:36,617 --> 09:08:37,618
LIGHT TO DO

9864
09:08:37,618 --> 09:08:38,619
THAT, WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT ADDING SOME

9865
09:08:38,619 --> 09:08:39,620
ADDITIONAL SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS SUCH

9866
09:08:39,620 --> 09:08:40,621
AS FENCING BETWEEN

9867
09:08:40,621 --> 09:08:42,623
THE VEHICULAR TRAVEL LANES AS WELL

9868
09:08:42,623 --> 09:08:43,624
AS A REGULATION WILL SPACE. AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY

9869
09:08:43,624 --> 09:08:45,626
REMOVING PAVEMENT BETWEEN THOSE SPACES.

9870
09:08:45,626 --> 09:08:48,260
MAKE THE SEPARATION --

9871
09:08:48,629 --> 09:08:50,629
HAVE THOSE

9872
09:08:50,631 --> 09:08:51,632
LOOK AND LITTLE FEEL A LITTLE SAFER.

9873
09:08:51,632 --> 09:08:52,633
I'M NOW GOING TO HAND

9874
09:08:52,633 --> 09:08:54,635
IT OVER TO ANDY TO TALK ABOUT SOME

9875
09:08:54,635 --> 09:08:56,637
OF THE COMMON CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS

9876
09:08:56,637 --> 09:08:57,605
PROCESS AS WELL AS THROUGH THE PUBLIC

9877
09:08:57,605 --> 09:09:00,608
INPUT. >> GOOD EVENING. AND THANK YOU ALL

9878
09:09:00,608 --> 09:09:02,608
FOR THE INFORMATION

9879
09:09:05,613 --> 09:09:06,614
. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ANDY

9880
09:09:06,614 --> 09:09:07,615
FRANK. I'M HEAD

9881
09:09:07,615 --> 09:09:09,617
OF THE PART DEVELOPMENT DIVISION. IT

9882
09:09:09,617 --> 09:09:12,620
IS GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY. WE JUST WANTED TO

9883
09:09:12,620 --> 09:09:15,200
GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT

9884
09:09:15,623 --> 09:09:16,624
TO SOME

9885
09:09:16,624 --> 09:09:18,626
OF THE PAGES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE

9886
09:09:18,626 --> 09:09:20,628
YOU, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE HEARD

9887
09:09:20,628 --> 09:09:21,629
AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU

9888
09:09:21,629 --> 09:09:23,631
WILL HEAR AND TESTIMONY TONIGHT. TO GIVE THAT

9889
09:09:23,631 --> 09:09:24,632
A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, SO, THERE

9890
09:09:24,632 --> 09:09:26,634
HAS BEEN A STATE

9891
09:09:26,634 --> 09:09:27,635
OF CONCERN THAT THERE IS A LACK OF

9892
09:09:27,635 --> 09:09:29,635
COMMUNITY SUPPORT

9893
09:09:30,604 --> 09:09:33,607
AND THE EMAILS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED REGARDING THIS

9894
09:09:33,607 --> 09:09:35,607
PROJECT MADE

9895
09:09:35,609 --> 09:09:36,610
A DIFFERENT PICTURE AND A MORE MIXED PICTURE.

9896
09:09:36,610 --> 09:09:38,612
YOU CAN SEE IN

9897
09:09:38,612 --> 09:09:39,613
THIS GRAPHIC THERE ARE POSITIVE, NEGATIVE,

9898
09:09:39,613 --> 09:09:42,613
VIEWS OF THIS PROJECT THAT

9899
09:09:42,616 --> 09:09:44,616
ARE DISPERSED

9900
09:09:44,618 --> 09:09:45,619
THROUGHOUT THE ADJOINING AREA. IT

9901
09:09:45,619 --> 09:09:48,622
IS NOT ONE MONOLITH, IT IS

9902
09:09:48,622 --> 09:09:50,622
A HETEROGENEOUS VIEWPOINT

9903
09:09:51,625 --> 09:09:53,627
ON THIS IDEA. >> JUST ADD, THE

9904
09:09:53,627 --> 09:09:54,628
GREEN DOTS HERE ARE EMAILS THAT WERE

9905
09:09:54,628 --> 09:09:57,628
IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT

9906
09:09:57,631 --> 09:10:00,634
AND THE RED DOTS ARE EMAILS THAT WERE NOT

9907
09:10:00,634 --> 09:10:04,834
IN SUPPORT. THAT WERE AGAINST THE PROJECT.

9908
09:10:12,613 --> 09:10:13,614
>> WE HAVE

9909
09:10:13,614 --> 09:10:15,616
ALSO HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS

9910
09:10:15,616 --> 09:10:17,618
THE VALIDITY OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THE ANALYSIS? I

9911
09:10:17,618 --> 09:10:18,619
WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS

9912
09:10:18,619 --> 09:10:20,619
WERE CONDUCTED BY

9913
09:10:21,622 --> 09:10:22,623
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS IN ACCORDANCE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

9914
09:10:22,623 --> 09:10:23,624
FURTHERMORE, THESE TRAFFIC COUNTS

9915
09:10:23,624 --> 09:10:24,625
AND ANALYSIS WERE DONE IN COORDINATION

9916
09:10:24,625 --> 09:10:27,661
WITH THE D.O.T. WITH

9917
09:10:27,661 --> 09:10:29,661
THEIR INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION.

9918
09:10:30,664 --> 09:10:33,667
PART OF THE REASON THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY

9919
09:10:33,667 --> 09:10:36,637
IS WE HAVE NOW DONE MULTIPLE TRAFFIC COUNTS

9920
09:10:36,637 --> 09:10:38,606
, THEY

9921
09:10:38,606 --> 09:10:39,607
WERE COMPLETED WITH A VARIETY OF CONDITIONS

9922
09:10:39,607 --> 09:10:43,207
BUT WITH VERY CONSISTENT RESULTS. ALSO,

9923
09:10:43,611 --> 09:10:45,613
THE WAY THAT OPEN PARKWAY

9924
09:10:45,613 --> 09:10:46,614
USER COUNTS WERE CONDUCTED WERE USING

9925
09:10:46,614 --> 09:10:48,614
COMMONLY

9926
09:10:49,617 --> 09:10:50,618
USED TRAIL COUNTERS, VERY

9927
09:10:50,618 --> 09:10:52,620
CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE WOULD DO IT

9928
09:10:52,620 --> 09:10:55,620
ELSEWHERE AND I WANT TO

9929
09:10:55,623 --> 09:10:57,623
MAKE THE POINT

9930
09:10:57,625 --> 09:10:58,626
THAT ALL COUNTS, WHETHER THEY ARE

9931
09:10:58,626 --> 09:10:59,627
TRAFFIC COUNTS OR

9932
09:10:59,627 --> 09:11:03,827
NONE TO KICK YOUR ACCOUNTS, THEY TRACK

9933
09:11:04,632 --> 09:11:05,633
UNIQUE CROSSINGS AT

9934
09:11:05,633 --> 09:11:07,635
A SET POINT AND DO NOT FILTER OUT

9935
09:11:07,635 --> 09:11:08,636
MULTIPLE TRIPS MADE BY THE

9936
09:11:08,636 --> 09:11:10,604
SIMPLE INDIVIDUAL. YOU COULD TRY AND

9937
09:11:10,604 --> 09:11:12,604
ADJUST FOR THAT

9938
09:11:12,606 --> 09:11:13,607
FOR YOUR DATA BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO

9939
09:11:13,607 --> 09:11:15,607
DO

9940
09:11:15,609 --> 09:11:16,610
IT FOR BOTH THE TRAFFIC AND THE NON-VEHICULAR COUNTS.

9941
09:11:16,610 --> 09:11:18,610
WE BELIEVE

9942
09:11:19,613 --> 09:11:22,130
THAT YOU WOULD FIND

9943
09:11:22,616 --> 09:11:25,160
VERY SIMILAR CORRELATIONS BETWEEN

9944
09:11:25,619 --> 09:11:28,622
THE TWO. SO, IF YOU DID IT FOR ONE, YOU WOULD

9945
09:11:28,622 --> 09:11:32,822
HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE OTHER.

9946
09:11:34,628 --> 09:11:35,629
WE HAVE HEARD THE CONCERN THAT

9947
09:11:35,629 --> 09:11:37,631
THE PILOT PROJECT DESIGN IS NOT OPTIMUM.

9948
09:11:37,631 --> 09:11:38,632
THAT IS NOT UNEXPECTED. IT IS THE

9949
09:11:38,632 --> 09:11:39,633
NATURE OF A PILOT PROJECT THAT WE

9950
09:11:39,633 --> 09:11:42,636
HAVE LIMITED ABILITY TO FULLY IMPLEMENT

9951
09:11:42,636 --> 09:11:43,604
THE PREFERRED DESIGN. WITH THE APPROVAL

9952
09:11:43,604 --> 09:11:44,605
OF

9953
09:11:44,605 --> 09:11:46,607
THE PLANNING BOARD, A PERMANENT DESIGN

9954
09:11:46,607 --> 09:11:47,608
WOULD FURTHER ADDRESS

9955
09:11:47,608 --> 09:11:51,808
THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED

9956
09:11:52,613 --> 09:11:53,614
, BE ABLE TO OPTIMIZE

9957
09:11:53,614 --> 09:11:55,616
TRAFFIC FLOW, INCLUDING THINGS AS

9958
09:11:55,616 --> 09:11:57,616
ANDREW MENTIONED, IMPROVING

9959
09:11:57,618 --> 09:11:58,619
TURN LANES, ADJUSTING SIGNAL TIMING, PAVEMENT

9960
09:11:58,619 --> 09:12:01,622
SEPARATIONS AND GETTING RID OF SOME

9961
09:12:01,622 --> 09:12:04,622
OF THE WATER-FILLED BARRIERS WHICH

9962
09:12:04,625 --> 09:12:06,625
CAN BE CONFUSING.

9963
09:12:07,628 --> 09:12:08,629
WE

9964
09:12:08,629 --> 09:12:10,631
ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT

9965
09:12:10,631 --> 09:12:13,634
WAS RAISED THAT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

9966
09:12:13,634 --> 09:12:16,634
TRAIL CROSSING IN PHASE TWO

9967
09:12:16,637 --> 09:12:19,606
IS LESS SAFE THAN IN PHASE ONE.

9968
09:12:19,606 --> 09:12:21,608
OR WHETHER OUR BRIDGE WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION.

9969
09:12:21,608 --> 09:12:25,646
I WANT TO START OFF BY EXPLAINING

9970
09:12:25,646 --> 09:12:28,460
AS MENTIONED, PHASE ONE,

9971
09:12:34,655 --> 09:12:35,656
IT IS ESSENTIALLY AN EXTENSION OF

9972
09:12:35,656 --> 09:12:37,658
AN INTERIM ROAD DIET THAT HAS BEEN IN

9973
09:12:37,658 --> 09:12:38,659
PLACE FOR SIX YEARS. SO, THE TRAIL

9974
09:12:38,659 --> 09:12:40,661
USERS AND THE DRIVERS WERE VERY USED

9975
09:12:40,661 --> 09:12:42,663
TO IT. WE DID NOT EXPECT ANY BIG

9976
09:12:42,663 --> 09:12:46,263
ADJUSTMENT. WITH THAT. PHASE TWO CROSSING,

9977
09:12:46,667 --> 09:12:51,467
IT IS SAFE AND IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT

9978
09:12:52,639 --> 09:12:54,641
WITH OTHER VISION ZERO TRAIL CROSSING DESIGNS.

9979
09:12:54,641 --> 09:12:55,642
HOWEVER, IT IS A NEW CONFIGURATION AND

9980
09:12:55,642 --> 09:12:57,642
AS WITH WHAT

9981
09:12:58,646 --> 09:13:01,646
OCCURRED IN PHASE ONE IN 2017

9982
09:13:01,648 --> 09:13:02,650
WE WOULD EXPECT THAT

9983
09:13:02,650 --> 09:13:04,652
IT WOULD TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

9984
09:13:04,652 --> 09:13:06,653
TIME FOR THE TRAIL USERS AND

9985
09:13:06,653 --> 09:13:07,654
THE CARS TO BECOME MORE USED TO THIS

9986
09:13:07,654 --> 09:13:08,655
CONFIGURATION AND

9987
09:13:08,655 --> 09:13:11,655
MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. FURTHERMORE,

9988
09:13:12,659 --> 09:13:13,661
WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING BOARD,

9989
09:13:13,661 --> 09:13:15,661
A

9990
09:13:15,663 --> 09:13:16,663
PERMANENT DESIGN COULD IN FACT INCORPORATE

9991
09:13:16,663 --> 09:13:18,663
A SAFE,

9992
09:13:19,667 --> 09:13:22,669
MEDIAN REFUGE AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

9993
09:13:22,669 --> 09:13:24,638
WHICH WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT

9994
09:13:24,638 --> 09:13:25,639
WAS IN PHASE ONE AND SIMILAR TO SOME

9995
09:13:25,639 --> 09:13:26,640
OF THE

9996
09:13:26,640 --> 09:13:28,642
FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN. THAT

9997
09:13:28,642 --> 09:13:31,642
CERTAINLY COULD BE INCORPORATED IN

9998
09:13:32,646 --> 09:13:34,648
AN ORDINANCE SOLUTION. REGARDLESS

9999
09:13:34,648 --> 09:13:35,649
OF ALL OF THIS WE HAVE TO MAKE

10000
09:13:35,649 --> 09:13:37,651
THE POINT, RETURNING TO FOUR LANES

10001
09:13:37,651 --> 09:13:40,510
IS SIMPLY NOT SAFE.

10002
09:13:40,654 --> 09:13:43,540
IT WILL RESULT IN

10003
09:13:43,657 --> 09:13:45,657
MORE ACCIDENTS. AS

10004
09:13:45,659 --> 09:13:47,661
FAR AS THE BRIDGE OPTION IS CONCERNED

10005
09:13:47,661 --> 09:13:49,663
AND WE KNOW THERE IS SOME INTEREST

10006
09:13:49,663 --> 09:13:51,663
IN THAT,

10007
09:13:52,666 --> 09:13:54,668
BASED ON THE LEVELS THAT WE HAVE OUT HERE,

10008
09:13:54,668 --> 09:14:00,680
IT IS NOT WARRANTED AND WE ALSO HAVE NOTED

10009
09:14:01,642 --> 09:14:02,643
IT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED

10010
09:14:02,643 --> 09:14:03,644
CONSEQUENCES. FIRST OF ALL, IT IS

10011
09:14:03,644 --> 09:14:04,645
OBVIOUSLY VERY EXPENSIVE, $10 MILLION,

10012
09:14:04,645 --> 09:14:06,645
AT LEAST.

10013
09:14:06,647 --> 09:14:07,648
THIS FUNDING WOULD COMPETE WITH OTHER

10014
09:14:07,648 --> 09:14:09,648
IMPORTANT PRIORITIES SUCH

10015
09:14:10,651 --> 09:14:12,653
AS THE PLAN FOR CCT UPGRADES.

10016
09:14:12,653 --> 09:14:13,654
THIS WOULD REQUIRE MANY YEARS TO IMPLEMENT

10017
09:14:13,654 --> 09:14:15,654
AND A LOT

10018
09:14:16,657 --> 09:14:18,657
OF STUDY.

10019
09:14:21,662 --> 09:14:22,663
THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL

10020
09:14:22,663 --> 09:14:23,697
IMPACTS AND IT

10021
09:14:23,697 --> 09:14:24,698
WOULD ACTUALLY DIMINISH THE TRAIL

10022
09:14:24,698 --> 09:14:25,699
USER EXPERIENCE DUE TO THE SIGNIFICANT

10023
09:14:25,699 --> 09:14:27,699
GRADE CHANGES.

10024
09:14:27,701 --> 09:14:31,672
ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE SEEN RAISED

10025
09:14:31,672 --> 09:14:32,673
IS DOES THE PLANNING

10026
09:14:32,673 --> 09:14:35,673
BOARD HAVE THE DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY

10027
09:14:37,678 --> 09:14:39,678
TO MAKE

10028
09:14:39,680 --> 09:14:40,681
THIS CHANGE? AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE

10029
09:14:40,681 --> 09:14:42,681
COORDINATION WITH NCPC?

10030
09:14:43,684 --> 09:14:45,686
WE JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, PARKS

10031
09:14:45,686 --> 09:14:48,689
DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE

10032
09:14:48,689 --> 09:14:49,690
NATIONAL CAPITAL PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGHOUT

10033
09:14:49,690 --> 09:14:51,690
THE PILOT PROJECT

10034
09:14:51,692 --> 09:14:52,693
AND THEY HAVE ADVISED US THAT NO FORMAL

10035
09:14:52,693 --> 09:14:54,693
SUBMISSION WAS NEEDED

10036
09:14:55,696 --> 09:14:58,696
TO IMPLEMENT THE PILOT PROJECT.

10037
09:14:58,699 --> 09:15:00,699
NCPC OWNS

10038
09:15:01,702 --> 09:15:02,703
LITTLE FALLS STREAM

10039
09:15:02,703 --> 09:15:04,671
VALLEY PARK WHICH INCLUDES LITTLE

10040
09:15:04,671 --> 09:15:07,671
FALLS PARKWAY. THE PLANNING BOARD

10041
09:15:07,674 --> 09:15:11,874
HAS AUTHORITY OVER ITS PURPOSE AND USE.

10042
09:15:13,680 --> 09:15:15,682
FURTHERMORE, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE

10043
09:15:15,682 --> 09:15:16,683
PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS CLOSELY COORDINATED THIS

10044
09:15:16,683 --> 09:15:18,683
WORK WITH

10045
09:15:19,686 --> 09:15:22,689
NCDOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE

10046
09:15:22,689 --> 09:15:24,689
OPEN PARKWAY'S.

10047
09:15:27,694 --> 09:15:28,695
THEY HAVE REVIEWED ALL THE PLANS,

10048
09:15:28,695 --> 09:15:30,697
ALL THE TRAFFIC DATA, ALL

10049
09:15:30,697 --> 09:15:31,698
OF THE MODELING, AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY HELPED

10050
09:15:31,698 --> 09:15:34,701
IMPLEMENT THE PHASE TWO SIGNAL. WE WANT TO

10051
09:15:34,701 --> 09:15:36,703
LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW,

10052
09:15:36,703 --> 09:15:37,671
PENDING APPROVAL TO MOVE TO A PERMANENT

10053
09:15:37,671 --> 09:15:40,671
DESIGN WE WILL RE-ENGAGE WITH

10054
09:15:40,674 --> 09:15:43,677
NCPC AND GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS,

10055
09:15:43,677 --> 09:15:46,677
AS APPROPRIATE. AS A REMINDER,

10056
09:15:46,680 --> 09:15:48,680
NCPC'S ROLE IS

10057
09:15:49,683 --> 09:15:51,683
TO REVIEW

10058
09:15:52,686 --> 09:15:54,688
ANY DEVELOPMENT OR MANAGEMENT PLAN

10059
09:15:54,688 --> 09:15:55,689
AND THEIR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THE PROTECTION AND

10060
09:15:55,689 --> 09:15:58,890
PRESERVATION OF THE REGION'S

10061
09:16:00,694 --> 09:16:01,695
VALUABLE WATERSHEDS AND PARKLANDS,

10062
09:16:01,695 --> 09:16:03,697
SIMILAR TO YOURS. SO, WE WOULD EXPECT

10063
09:16:03,697 --> 09:16:07,701
THEM TO SUPPORT THE PLANNING BOARD'S DECISION.

10064
09:16:07,701 --> 09:16:10,671
THE CONCERN THAT ANDREW HAD

10065
09:16:10,671 --> 09:16:12,671
ADDRESSED BEFORE

10066
09:16:15,676 --> 09:16:16,677
IS, YOU KNOW, WITH A TWO LANE ROAD

10067
09:16:16,677 --> 09:16:19,680
BE PROBLEMATIC FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE? THE ANSWER

10068
09:16:19,680 --> 09:16:22,716
IS SIMPLY NO. TWO LANE ROADS

10069
09:16:22,716 --> 09:16:23,717
LIKE THE PHASE TWO CONFIGURATION

10070
09:16:23,717 --> 09:16:25,719
ARE VERY COMMON THROUGHOUT MONTGOMERY

10071
09:16:25,719 --> 09:16:28,722
COUNTY AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED THIS EXPLICITLY

10072
09:16:28,722 --> 09:16:30,722
WITH MONTGOMERY

10073
09:16:30,724 --> 09:16:31,725
COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE AND PARK POLICE.

10074
09:16:31,725 --> 09:16:33,725
IN FACT,

10075
09:16:34,728 --> 09:16:37,128
TWO OPPOSING LANES ACTUALLY

10076
09:16:37,731 --> 09:16:38,732
PROVIDE

10077
09:16:38,732 --> 09:16:41,735
A LARGER CONTINUOUS AREA OF PAVEMENT

10078
09:16:41,735 --> 09:16:43,735
WHICH IS PREFERRED

10079
09:16:43,737 --> 09:16:46,707
BY FIRE AND RESCUE VERSUS TWO SEPARATED

10080
09:16:46,707 --> 09:16:49,710
NARROW LANES IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

10081
09:16:49,710 --> 09:16:52,713
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THIS,

10082
09:16:52,713 --> 09:16:55,716
SLIGO CREEK PARKWAY WHICH HAS TWO

10083
09:16:55,716 --> 09:16:56,717
OPPOSING LANES HAS PROVIDED EMERGENCY

10084
09:16:56,717 --> 09:16:58,717
RESPONSE ACCESS

10085
09:16:58,719 --> 09:16:59,720
TO HOLY CROSS HOSPITAL FOR DECADES

10086
09:16:59,720 --> 09:17:01,720
. A

10087
09:17:01,722 --> 09:17:05,322
TWO LANE ROAD IS QUITE APPROPRIATE

10088
09:17:05,726 --> 09:17:08,729
AND QUITE ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS

10089
09:17:08,729 --> 09:17:10,729
OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

10090
09:17:11,732 --> 09:17:14,735
WE HAVE ALSO HEARD THE CONCERN

10091
09:17:14,735 --> 09:17:15,736
THAT

10092
09:17:15,736 --> 09:17:17,704
THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR A RECREATIONAL

10093
09:17:17,704 --> 09:17:20,704
OPEN SPACE IN THIS AREA.

10094
09:17:20,707 --> 09:17:22,707
WE HAVE HEARD

10095
09:17:23,710 --> 09:17:26,713
AND WE HAVE RESEARCHED AND THERE IS STRONG DEMAND

10096
09:17:26,713 --> 09:17:29,113
FOR ADDITIONAL PARKLANDS, IS

10097
09:17:29,716 --> 09:17:32,716
SPECIALLY IN THE BETHESDA AREA.

10098
09:17:32,719 --> 09:17:35,119
EVEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC,

10099
09:17:35,722 --> 09:17:37,722
KYLE SHOWED YOU

10100
09:17:37,724 --> 09:17:38,725
HOW THE NUMBERS WERE UP IN THE PANDEMIC,

10101
09:17:38,725 --> 09:17:39,726
EVEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC, ALL

10102
09:17:39,726 --> 09:17:41,728
OF OUR OPEN ROADS PROGRAMS HAVE REMAINED

10103
09:17:41,728 --> 09:17:43,730
POPULAR. IT SHOULD BE NOTED

10104
09:17:43,730 --> 09:17:47,734
THAT THE DEMAND FOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE

10105
09:17:47,734 --> 09:17:48,735
WOULD VARY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THOSE

10106
09:17:48,735 --> 09:17:50,704
LIVING IN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH BACKYARDS

10107
09:17:50,704 --> 09:17:53,104
AND TO THOSE WITHOUT.

10108
09:17:56,710 --> 09:17:59,710
SO, I JUST WANT TO

10109
09:17:59,713 --> 09:18:00,714
CONCLUDE WITH WE HAVE GIVEN YOU

10110
09:18:00,714 --> 09:18:02,716
A DENSE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND

10111
09:18:02,716 --> 09:18:05,719
I WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH WHAT

10112
09:18:05,719 --> 09:18:07,721
ARE YOU BEING ASKED

10113
09:18:07,721 --> 09:18:10,724
TO CONSIDER? I WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR

10114
09:18:10,724 --> 09:18:11,725
THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS NOT BEING

10115
09:18:11,725 --> 09:18:14,125
ASKED TO CONSIDER --

10116
09:18:14,728 --> 09:18:17,728
DECIDE ON HOW TO PERMANENTLY

10117
09:18:17,731 --> 09:18:18,732
REPURPOSE THE ADDITIONAL

10118
09:18:18,732 --> 09:18:20,734
OPEN SPACE THAT COULD BE CREATED.

10119
09:18:20,734 --> 09:18:22,734
THAT WOULD

10120
09:18:22,769 --> 09:18:23,770
BE A SEPARATE PLANNING AND APPROVAL

10121
09:18:23,770 --> 09:18:25,770
PROCESS IF THE

10122
09:18:26,740 --> 09:18:28,740
PLANNING BOARD

10123
09:18:28,742 --> 09:18:29,743
WERE TO APPROVE THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION.

10124
09:18:29,743 --> 09:18:30,744
SO, WHAT

10125
09:18:30,744 --> 09:18:32,746
WE HAVE ASKED IS THAT ON APRIL 13th

10126
09:18:32,746 --> 09:18:34,746
THE PLANNING BOARD

10127
09:18:35,749 --> 09:18:36,750
DOES APPROVE THE LONG-TERM CONFIGURATION OF TWO

10128
09:18:36,750 --> 09:18:38,752
OPPOSING DRIVE LANES ALONG LITTLE FALLS

10129
09:18:38,752 --> 09:18:40,752
PARKWAY BETWEEN

10130
09:18:41,755 --> 09:18:43,757
ARLINGTON ROAD AND DORSET AVENUE

10131
09:18:43,757 --> 09:18:47,761
AND THAT WILL ALLOW THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

10132
09:18:47,761 --> 09:18:48,762
TO CONTINUE

10133
09:18:48,762 --> 09:18:49,763
OUR COORDINATION WITH OUR PARTNER

10134
09:18:49,763 --> 09:18:52,163
AGENCIES, INCLUDING NCPC , IMPLEMENT

10135
09:18:52,766 --> 09:18:56,366
ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NOT ABLE

10136
09:18:56,770 --> 09:18:57,738
TO BE

10137
09:18:57,738 --> 09:18:59,740
INCLUDED IN THE PILOT PROGRAM, INCLUDING

10138
09:18:59,740 --> 09:19:02,743
POTENTIAL ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CAPITAL RESIDENT

10139
09:19:02,743 --> 09:19:04,745
TRAIL CROSSING ITSELF AND

10140
09:19:04,745 --> 09:19:05,746
IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BEGIN TO STUDY

10141
09:19:05,746 --> 09:19:08,749
HOW WE WOULD REPURPOSE THESE ADDITIONAL

10142
09:19:08,749 --> 09:19:10,749
NON-VEHICULAR TRAVEL LANES.

10143
09:19:11,752 --> 09:19:12,753
WITH THAT

10144
09:19:12,753 --> 09:19:14,755
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION,

10145
09:19:14,755 --> 09:19:15,756
I KNOW IT IS A LOT. WE KNOW THAT

10146
09:19:15,756 --> 09:19:17,758
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TESTIMONY THAT IS COMING

10147
09:19:17,758 --> 09:19:19,758
YOUR WAY

10148
09:19:22,763 --> 09:19:23,764
AND, SO, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK

10149
09:19:23,764 --> 09:19:25,766
YOU VERY MUCH FOR

10150
09:19:25,766 --> 09:19:26,767
YOUR TIME. >> WE THANK YOU FOR THE

10151
09:19:26,767 --> 09:19:28,769
PRESENTATION. WE WILL RESERVE ALL OF OUR

10152
09:19:28,769 --> 09:19:29,770
QUESTIONS FOR YOU AFTER THIS. THANK

10153
09:19:29,770 --> 09:19:31,770
YOU. >> THANK YOU

10154
09:19:32,739 --> 09:19:35,139
VERY MUCH. >> THINK. >> ALL

10155
09:19:35,742 --> 09:19:38,745
RIGHT. AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT

10156
09:19:38,745 --> 09:19:40,745
OF SPEAKERS ,

10157
09:19:41,748 --> 09:19:44,751
SOME ARE ON TEAMS, SOME ARE IN

10158
09:19:44,751 --> 09:19:46,751
PERSON, AGAIN,

10159
09:19:47,721 --> 09:19:48,722
ORGANIZATIONS

10160
09:19:48,722 --> 09:19:50,724
ALLOW FIVE MINUTES AND THREE MINUTES

10161
09:19:50,724 --> 09:19:52,724
FOR INDIVIDUALS.

10162
09:19:53,727 --> 09:19:56,730
JUST LIKE BASEBALL, WE DO HAVE A CLOCK.

10163
09:19:56,730 --> 09:19:58,730
HOPEFULLY YOU

10164
09:19:58,732 --> 09:19:59,733
CAN GET YOUR TESTIMONY IN AND I WILL

10165
09:19:59,733 --> 09:20:01,733
REMIND PEOPLE

10166
09:20:02,736 --> 09:20:05,705
THAT IF SOMEONE HAS SAID YOUR

10167
09:20:05,705 --> 09:20:07,705
POINT BEFORE YOU

10168
09:20:07,707 --> 09:20:08,708
CAN REMIND US THAT YOU'VE HEARD THIS

10169
09:20:08,708 --> 09:20:10,708
BEFORE IN SOMEONE

10170
09:20:11,711 --> 09:20:13,711
ELSE'S TESTIMONY.

10171
09:20:14,714 --> 09:20:17,714
WITH THAT, I WILL ASK

10172
09:20:17,717 --> 09:20:20,754
MAYOR JEFFREY OF THE TOWN OF SOMERSET

10173
09:20:20,754 --> 09:20:23,754
WHO IS ON TEAMS TO

10174
09:20:23,757 --> 09:20:26,157
GIVE US HIS PRESENTATION. >>

10175
09:20:26,760 --> 09:20:29,160
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME

10176
09:20:29,763 --> 09:20:31,765
IS JEFFREY AND I'M THE

10177
09:20:31,765 --> 09:20:35,965
MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF SOMERSET. SOMERSET

10178
09:20:40,740 --> 09:20:41,741
BORDERS THE EASTERN HALF OF LITTLE

10179
09:20:41,741 --> 09:20:43,743
FALLS PARKWAY FROM RIVER ROAN

10180
09:20:43,743 --> 09:20:44,744
TO NORTH OF DOUGH SET AVENUE. DORSET

10181
09:20:44,744 --> 09:20:46,746
AVENUE IS A MAJOR ENTRANCE AND EGRESS INTO

10182
09:20:46,746 --> 09:20:47,747
OUR MUNICIPALITY. OVER THE PAST THREE

10183
09:20:47,747 --> 09:20:51,347
YEARS THE ROAD CLOSURES AND CHANGES

10184
09:20:53,753 --> 09:20:54,754
ON

10185
09:20:54,754 --> 09:20:55,755
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY HAVE CONFUSED,

10186
09:20:55,755 --> 09:20:56,756
FRUSTRATED, AND ENDANGERED TO THE

10187
09:20:56,756 --> 09:20:57,757
CITIZENS OF SOMERSET. I SUGGEST

10188
09:20:57,757 --> 09:20:59,759
YOU DRIVE THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION

10189
09:20:59,759 --> 09:21:01,761
OF LANES ON THIS SECTION OF LITTLE FALLS

10190
09:21:01,761 --> 09:21:02,762
PARKWAY. DON'T JUST DRIVE IT DURING

10191
09:21:02,762 --> 09:21:05,762
THE DAY BUT AT NIGHT

10192
09:21:05,765 --> 09:21:07,767
AND WHEN IT IS RAINING. IF YOU

10193
09:21:07,767 --> 09:21:08,768
WANT TO GET THE FULL IMPACT OF HOW

10194
09:21:08,768 --> 09:21:10,770
DANGEROUS THE ROAD IS. TWO OPPOSING

10195
09:21:10,770 --> 09:21:15,570
LANES SIDE BY SIDE, CLOSURES AND OPENINGS AT

10196
09:21:16,743 --> 09:21:17,744
PARTS OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY HAVE

10197
09:21:17,744 --> 09:21:20,747
BEEN THE NORM SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN

10198
09:21:20,747 --> 09:21:22,749
IN MARCH 2020. IT WASN'T

10199
09:21:22,749 --> 09:21:23,750
UNTIL LAST YEAR AT A MEETING ORGANIZED

10200
09:21:23,750 --> 09:21:26,750
BY COUNCILMEMBER FRIESEN THAT WE

10201
09:21:26,753 --> 09:21:29,756
FINALLY GOT THE REAL EXPLANATION. WITH REPRESENTATIVES

10202
09:21:29,756 --> 09:21:31,758
FROM MY TOWN AND

10203
09:21:31,758 --> 09:21:32,759
KENTWOOD AND CHEVY CHASE WEST CITIZENS

10204
09:21:32,759 --> 09:21:35,759
GROUPS, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BASED

10205
09:21:35,762 --> 09:21:37,762
ON A REQUEST

10206
09:21:37,764 --> 09:21:38,765
BY MR. FRIESEN REVEAL ITS TRUE PLANS

10207
09:21:38,765 --> 09:21:40,765
WHICH

10208
09:21:41,768 --> 09:21:45,968
MR. FRIESEN CURIOUSLY CALLED A WIN WIN.

10209
09:21:48,742 --> 09:21:49,743
TO CLOSE PART OF

10210
09:21:49,743 --> 09:21:51,745
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY PERMANENTLY AND MAKE

10211
09:21:51,745 --> 09:21:54,748
THE CLOSE PORTION INTO A LINEAR

10212
09:21:54,748 --> 09:21:56,750
PARK, THIS STUNNED ME AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS PRESENT

10213
09:21:56,750 --> 09:22:00,950
WHO THEN VOICED OPPOSITION. IT'S DONE DUST

10214
09:22:02,756 --> 09:22:03,757
BECAUSE THE ACCEPTED DEMOCRATIC PROCESS

10215
09:22:03,757 --> 09:22:05,759
IN THIS COUNTY FOR MAKING A MAJOR CHANGE

10216
09:22:05,759 --> 09:22:06,760
LIKE THAT IS A WRIST SECTOR OR MASTER

10217
09:22:06,760 --> 09:22:07,761
PLAN. THE BETHESDA MASTER PLAN FOR

10218
09:22:07,761 --> 09:22:09,763
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WAS MENTIONED

10219
09:22:09,763 --> 09:22:11,763
AND IT

10220
09:22:12,766 --> 09:22:13,767
WAS NOT

10221
09:22:13,767 --> 09:22:14,768
REVISED SINCE 1990. THE AREA FROM

10222
09:22:14,768 --> 09:22:15,769
FAIRFAX ROAD TO MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE

10223
09:22:15,769 --> 09:22:17,769
SHOULD RETAIN

10224
09:22:18,738 --> 09:22:21,738
EXISTING ROAD WITH AND FURTHER

10225
09:22:29,783 --> 09:22:30,784
CHANGES, IF ANY, MUST RETAIN PARKWAY

10226
09:22:30,784 --> 09:22:32,784
CHARACTER. THAT

10227
09:22:32,786 --> 09:22:33,787
BEING THE CASE, WHY DIDN'T THE PARKS DEPARTMENT GO

10228
09:22:33,787 --> 09:22:34,788
TO THE PLANNING BOARD FROM

10229
09:22:34,788 --> 09:22:35,789
THE BEGINNING TO START THE PROCESS

10230
09:22:35,789 --> 09:22:36,790
OF REVISING OR REMANDING THE MASTER

10231
09:22:36,790 --> 09:22:37,791
PLAN? DOES IT APPEARS

10232
09:22:37,791 --> 09:22:38,792
THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DID NOT

10233
09:22:38,792 --> 09:22:39,793
WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE BECAUSE THEY

10234
09:22:39,793 --> 09:22:41,793
WANTED

10235
09:22:42,796 --> 09:22:45,196
TO MAKE THIS CHANGE

10236
09:22:45,799 --> 09:22:46,800
WITH AS LITTLE PUBLIC

10237
09:22:46,800 --> 09:22:47,801
INPUT AS POSSIBLE. THIS HEARING IS ONLY

10238
09:22:47,801 --> 09:22:50,804
TAKING PLACE BECAUSE OF THE STRONG

10239
09:22:50,804 --> 09:22:51,771
PUSH BACK FROM SOMERSET, CANNON WOOD,

10240
09:22:51,771 --> 09:22:53,771
AND CHEVY CHASE

10241
09:22:53,773 --> 09:22:57,777
WEST WHO ARE JOINED BY OTHER NEARBY COMMUNITIES

10242
09:22:57,777 --> 09:22:59,779
INCLUDING SUMNER, WEST MORELAND, SPRINGFIELD, AND KENWOOD

10243
09:22:59,779 --> 09:23:00,780
FOREST WHO CITIZENS ALL DEPEND ON

10244
09:23:00,780 --> 09:23:02,780
THIS ROAD

10245
09:23:02,782 --> 09:23:03,783
TO GET THEM BETWEEN THE WEST AREA

10246
09:23:03,783 --> 09:23:05,783
IN

10247
09:23:06,786 --> 09:23:08,786
DOWNTOWN BETHESDA.

10248
09:23:14,794 --> 09:23:15,795
NOW WE HAVE A POWER STRUGGLE BETWEEN

10249
09:23:15,795 --> 09:23:16,796
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE TAXPAYING

10250
09:23:16,796 --> 09:23:17,797
PUBLIC. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT NEEDS

10251
09:23:17,797 --> 09:23:18,798
TO REMEMBER THEY WORK FOR TAXPAYERS,

10252
09:23:18,798 --> 09:23:19,799
NOT THE OTHER

10253
09:23:19,799 --> 09:23:20,800
WAY AROUND. THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING

10254
09:23:20,800 --> 09:23:21,801
YOU TO RESTORE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

10255
09:23:21,801 --> 09:23:22,802
TO FOUR

10256
09:23:22,802 --> 09:23:24,771
LANES EXCEPT FOR THE AREA AT THE INTERSECTION

10257
09:23:24,771 --> 09:23:25,772
WITH THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

10258
09:23:25,772 --> 09:23:27,774
AND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK

10259
09:23:27,774 --> 09:23:29,776
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

10260
09:23:29,776 --> 09:23:32,776
DEBBIE, SOMERSET, TOWN COUNCIL. OH,

10261
09:23:33,780 --> 09:23:35,780
I'M SORRY.

10262
09:23:36,783 --> 09:23:38,783
I'M

10263
09:23:39,786 --> 09:23:42,186
LOOKING AT A COMPUTER.

10264
09:23:42,789 --> 09:23:45,792
IF YOU'RE HERE, CAN I ALSO BY DAVID JOHNSON,

10265
09:23:45,792 --> 09:23:47,794
PATRICIA JOHNSON, VILAS EDELMAN,

10266
09:23:47,794 --> 09:23:51,798
AND BRYCE GEYER UP TO THE TABLE TOO.

10267
09:23:51,798 --> 09:23:53,798
I FORGOT I

10268
09:23:53,800 --> 09:23:57,400
WAS --I'VE BEEN TOO VIRTUAL TODAY.

10269
09:24:00,774 --> 09:24:03,777
WE HAVE ONE MORE COMING UP.

10270
09:24:03,777 --> 09:24:05,777
OKAY.

10271
09:24:06,780 --> 09:24:08,780
COUNCILMEMBER HELLER,

10272
09:24:09,783 --> 09:24:11,783
-- >>

10273
09:24:17,791 --> 09:24:18,825
MY NAME IS DEBBIE HELLER. I'M FROM THE

10274
09:24:18,825 --> 09:24:19,826
TOWN OF SOMERSET. I'VE

10275
09:24:19,826 --> 09:24:21,828
LIVED IN SOMERSET FOR 38 YEARS. I'M

10276
09:24:21,828 --> 09:24:22,829
SPEAKING TODAY TO URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE

10277
09:24:22,829 --> 09:24:24,831
PERMANENT ROAD DIED BETWEEN DORSET

10278
09:24:24,831 --> 09:24:26,831
AVENUE AND

10279
09:24:27,834 --> 09:24:29,836
ARLINGTON ROAD. I'VE SEVERAL OBJECTIONS TO THE

10280
09:24:29,836 --> 09:24:30,837
ROAD DIED FOR TODAY I WILL TALK ABOUT

10281
09:24:30,837 --> 09:24:32,806
THE MOST IMPORTANT OBJECTION AND THAT IS

10282
09:24:32,806 --> 09:24:33,807
SAFETY. TAKING AWAY THE MEDIAN AND

10283
09:24:33,807 --> 09:24:35,807
CUTTING LANES

10284
09:24:37,811 --> 09:24:39,813
FROM FOUR TO TWO IS CONFUSING AND

10285
09:24:39,813 --> 09:24:40,814
IS CAUSE THE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO BACK UP

10286
09:24:40,814 --> 09:24:42,816
ALL THE WAY TO DORSET AVENUE. IT ENCOURAGES

10287
09:24:42,816 --> 09:24:45,819
TRAFFIC TO CUT THROUGH THE TOWN

10288
09:24:45,819 --> 09:24:47,819
OF SOMERSET.

10289
09:24:56,830 --> 09:24:57,831
DORSETT IS BOOK ENDED BETWEEN LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

10290
09:24:57,831 --> 09:24:59,833
AND WISCONSIN AVENUE. IT IS

10291
09:24:59,833 --> 09:25:00,834
THE PERFECT CUT THROUGH TO GET TO WISCONSIN AVENUE FROM LITTLE FALLS. ESPECIALLY

10292
09:25:00,834 --> 09:25:01,835
WHEN IT IS

10293
09:25:01,835 --> 09:25:03,837
BACKING UP AS IT DOES TO ACCOMMODATE

10294
09:25:03,837 --> 09:25:05,805
THE CROSSING AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL.

10295
09:25:05,805 --> 09:25:06,806
WITH THE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY REDUCED

10296
09:25:06,806 --> 09:25:08,808
TO TWO LANES, MORE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC

10297
09:25:08,808 --> 09:25:12,408
IS A GUARANTEE. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

10298
09:25:14,814 --> 09:25:15,815
PRESENTED DATED TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO

10299
09:25:15,815 --> 09:25:17,815
SUGGEST

10300
09:25:17,817 --> 09:25:18,818
THAT THERE IS BEEN NO INCREASE OF CUT

10301
09:25:18,818 --> 09:25:20,820
THROUGH TRAFFIC SINCE THE ROAD DIET HAS BEEN

10302
09:25:20,820 --> 09:25:21,821
IN PLACE. THEIR DATA IS FLAWED. FUTURE

10303
09:25:21,821 --> 09:25:23,821
TRAFFIC COUNTS ASSESSMENT

10304
09:25:23,823 --> 09:25:24,824
ARE INADEQUATE. IT WAS DONE DURING

10305
09:25:24,824 --> 09:25:25,825
THE COVID PANDEMIC WHEN WE WERE

10306
09:25:25,825 --> 09:25:27,827
ALL DRIVING LESS. WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT

10307
09:25:27,827 --> 09:25:30,827
IS COMPLETED IT WILL CREATE 410

10308
09:25:36,836 --> 09:25:38,805
NEW APARTMENTS AND HUNDRED AND SIX TOWNHOUSES.

10309
09:25:38,805 --> 09:25:39,806
HOW CAN I NOT IMPACT THE TRAFFIC ON

10310
09:25:39,806 --> 09:25:40,807
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY? THE STUDY ALSO IGNORES MAJOR

10311
09:25:40,807 --> 09:25:41,808
DEVELOPMENT UNDERWAY OR ZONED AND

10312
09:25:41,808 --> 09:25:42,809
PROPOSED IN DOWNTOWN BETHESDA, AND

10313
09:25:42,809 --> 09:25:44,809
ALONG RIVER

10314
09:25:45,812 --> 09:25:47,812
ROAD.

10315
09:25:50,817 --> 09:25:51,818
BETHESDA ALONE IS SLATED TO HAVE 6000

10316
09:25:51,818 --> 09:25:53,820
NEW APARTMENTS. HOW CAN THAT

10317
09:25:53,820 --> 09:25:54,821
NOT AFFECT TRAFFIC? I'M NOT SURE IF

10318
09:25:54,821 --> 09:25:55,822
YOU KNOW THIS BUT SOMERSET ELEMENTARY SCHOOL

10319
09:25:55,822 --> 09:25:56,823
IS EMBEDDED IN THE TOWN OF SOMERSET.

10320
09:25:56,823 --> 09:25:57,824
CURRENTLY THE SCHOOL HAS 330 STUDENTS

10321
09:25:57,824 --> 09:25:59,824
AND 55 STAFF

10322
09:26:00,827 --> 09:26:02,827
MEMBERS

10323
09:26:02,829 --> 09:26:03,830
BUT THIS SCHOOL IS UNDER CAPACITY

10324
09:26:03,830 --> 09:26:04,831
RIGHT NOW

10325
09:26:04,831 --> 09:26:05,832
DUE TO BOUNDARY CHANGES THIS YEAR.

10326
09:26:05,832 --> 09:26:06,833
IT'S ACTUAL CAPACITY IS 516 STUDENTS.

10327
09:26:06,833 --> 09:26:08,835
IT IS EXPECTED THAT THAT

10328
09:26:08,835 --> 09:26:09,836
ENROLLMENT WILL INCREASE OVER THE

10329
09:26:09,836 --> 09:26:12,236
NEXT YEAR TO REACH

10330
09:26:12,806 --> 09:26:13,807
CAPACITY AGAIN. CHILDREN

10331
09:26:13,807 --> 09:26:15,809
TRAVEL BY WALKING, DRIVING, OR SCHOOLBUS.

10332
09:26:15,809 --> 09:26:17,844
THERE ARE FOUR SCHOOL BUSES THAT ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD

10333
09:26:17,844 --> 09:26:18,845
ON DORSET AVENUE. DORSETT IS A NARROW

10334
09:26:18,845 --> 09:26:20,847
STREET THAT HAS TRAFFIC IN

10335
09:26:20,847 --> 09:26:21,848
BOTH DIRECTIONS AND IT CAN BE CHALLENGING

10336
09:26:21,848 --> 09:26:22,849
TO GET TO THE SCHOOL BECAUSE OF

10337
09:26:22,849 --> 09:26:24,851
ALL THE CARS DROPPING OFF STUDENTS.

10338
09:26:24,851 --> 09:26:27,854
IN ADDITION, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM LITTLE FALLS

10339
09:26:27,854 --> 09:26:29,854
PARKWAY

10340
09:26:30,857 --> 09:26:32,859
AS TO THE CONGESTION NOT TO MENTION

10341
09:26:32,859 --> 09:26:33,860
OUR OWN RESIDENT TO ENTER AND LEAVE

10342
09:26:33,860 --> 09:26:35,862
THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO PROBLEMATIC IS THAT TO GET

10343
09:26:35,862 --> 09:26:36,863
TO THE SCHOOL AND LEAVE THE SCHOOL

10344
09:26:36,863 --> 09:26:38,865
YOU MUST TAKE DORSET AVENUE, THERE

10345
09:26:38,865 --> 09:26:39,866
IS NO WAY AROUND THAT. THERE ARE TOO

10346
09:26:39,866 --> 09:26:42,266
MANY CARS THAT TRAVEL.

10347
09:26:42,869 --> 09:26:45,839
CARS CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD

10348
09:26:45,839 --> 09:26:47,839
, THEY

10349
09:26:48,842 --> 09:26:51,242
SPEED OVER SPEED BUMPS

10350
09:26:51,845 --> 09:26:53,847
AND RUN STOP SIGNS. CARS

10351
09:26:53,847 --> 09:26:54,848
ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO TRAVEL VERY

10352
09:26:54,848 --> 09:26:56,848
FAST ON

10353
09:27:25,845 --> 09:27:26,846
DORSET AVENUE. BIKERS DO THE

10354
09:27:26,846 --> 09:27:27,847
SAME. JUST LAST WEEK I DROVE BEHIND

10355
09:27:27,847 --> 09:27:28,848
A BIKER ON DORSET AVENUE DURING THE

10356
09:27:28,848 --> 09:27:29,849
MORNING RUSH.

10357
09:27:29,849 --> 09:27:31,851
WHEN I GOT TO THE RED LIGHT AT DORSET AVENUE

10358
09:27:31,851 --> 09:27:32,852
AND WISCONSIN I WAS THE FOURTH

10359
09:27:32,852 --> 09:27:34,854
CAR BACK IN THE LINE. THE BIKER THAT

10360
09:27:34,854 --> 09:27:35,855
WAS IN FRONT OF ME RODE

10361
09:27:35,855 --> 09:27:37,857
AROUND THE CARS IN THE OPPOSING LANE

10362
09:27:37,857 --> 09:27:38,858
AND WHEN HE GOT TO THE LIGHT

10363
09:27:38,858 --> 09:27:39,859
WHICH WAS STILL RED HE WENT AROUND

10364
09:27:39,859 --> 09:27:40,860
THE CARS AND TURNED RIGHT ONTO WISCONSIN

10365
09:27:40,860 --> 09:27:41,861
AVENUE.

10366
09:27:41,861 --> 09:27:43,863
JUST AS HE WAS TURNING RIGHT, A SCHOOL BUS

10367
09:27:43,863 --> 09:27:44,864
WAS TURNING ONTO DORSET AND

10368
09:27:44,864 --> 09:27:45,865
THE BUS DRIVER NARROWLY MISSED THE

10369
09:27:45,865 --> 09:27:47,867
BIKER BY MAY BE AFOOT. THE BUS DRIVER

10370
09:27:47,867 --> 09:27:48,868
HAD TO STOP SHORT TO AVOID HITTING

10371
09:27:48,868 --> 09:27:49,869
THE BIKER. IT WAS A TRAGEDY IN THE

10372
09:27:49,869 --> 09:27:50,870
MAKING.

10373
09:27:50,870 --> 09:27:52,839
DORSET AVENUE HAS ALWAYS HAD A LOT

10374
09:27:52,839 --> 09:27:53,840
OF CARS TRAVELING ON IT DURING

10375
09:27:53,840 --> 09:27:54,841
THE MORNING RUSH HOUR BUT NOW WE HAVE

10376
09:27:54,841 --> 09:27:55,842
EVEN MORE CARS. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

10377
09:27:55,842 --> 09:27:56,843
WILL

10378
09:27:56,843 --> 09:27:58,845
TELL YOU THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT INCREASED

10379
09:27:58,845 --> 09:27:59,846
BUT I LIVE THERE AND I'M

10380
09:27:59,846 --> 09:28:01,848
GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I KNOW FIRSTHAND

10381
09:28:01,848 --> 09:28:02,849
THAT IS NOT TRUE. CARS, BUSES, BIKES,

10382
09:28:02,849 --> 09:28:03,850
AND CHILDREN ON A NARROW STREET THAT NOW

10383
09:28:03,850 --> 09:28:04,851
HAS MORE CAR CONGESTION THAN EVER

10384
09:28:04,851 --> 09:28:05,852
IS

10385
09:28:05,852 --> 09:28:06,853
A RECIPE FOR TRAGEDY. PLEASE REINSTATE

10386
09:28:06,853 --> 09:28:07,854
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY TO ITS ORIGINAL

10387
09:28:07,854 --> 09:28:08,855
FOUR LANES

10388
09:28:08,855 --> 09:28:09,856
SO THAT DORSET AVENUE WILL HAVE LESS

10389
09:28:09,856 --> 09:28:10,857
CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND HELP KEEP

10390
09:28:10,857 --> 09:28:11,858
ALL

10391
09:28:11,858 --> 09:28:12,859
OF A SAVER, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN.

10392
09:28:12,859 --> 09:28:13,860
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ALL

10393
09:28:13,860 --> 09:28:15,860
BEING HERE.

10394
09:28:15,895 --> 09:28:16,896
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. DAVID JOHNSON?

10395
09:28:16,896 --> 09:28:18,898
>> YES, I'M DR. DAVID

10396
09:28:18,898 --> 09:28:22,902
JOHNSON AND I AM WELL OVER 3000 PETITIONERS RESPECTFULLY

10397
09:28:22,902 --> 09:28:23,903
ASK YOU TO ABANDON PLANS FOR THE LINEAR PARK

10398
09:28:23,903 --> 09:28:24,871
AND RETURN TO FOUR TRAFFIC LANES TO

10399
09:28:24,871 --> 09:28:25,872
THEIR ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION NORTH

10400
09:28:25,872 --> 09:28:26,873
OF DORSET AVENUE ON

10401
09:28:26,873 --> 09:28:27,874
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. MY REASONING

10402
09:28:27,874 --> 09:28:32,740
FOR THIS IS AS FOLLOWS. NUMBER ONE,

10403
09:28:32,879 --> 09:28:33,880
THE ROAD DIET IS DANGEROUS. I'VE PERSONALLY

10404
09:28:33,880 --> 09:28:35,882
EXPERIENCED IN YOUR HEAD ON COLLISION

10405
09:28:35,882 --> 09:28:36,883
TRAINING NORTH FROM DORSETT ONTO LITTLE

10406
09:28:36,883 --> 09:28:37,884
FALLS PARKWAY AND HAVE SINCE HEARD

10407
09:28:37,884 --> 09:28:39,884
FROM TWO

10408
09:28:40,887 --> 09:28:42,887
OTHER CITIZENS

10409
09:28:45,892 --> 09:28:46,893
FROM NEAR HEAD-ON COLLISIONS. A FOURTH GENTLEMAN

10410
09:28:46,893 --> 09:28:47,894
PHONING

10411
09:28:47,894 --> 09:28:48,895
IN TO TESTIFY THE PUBLIC MEETING ON

10412
09:28:48,895 --> 09:28:49,896
FEBRUARY 15th ALSO REPORTED A SIMILAR

10413
09:28:49,896 --> 09:28:51,896
EXPERIENCE INDICATING THIS

10414
09:28:52,899 --> 09:28:53,900
IS AN ONGOING DANGER. NUMBER TWO,

10415
09:28:53,900 --> 09:28:54,867
THE CURRENT CROSSING OF THE CAPITAL

10416
09:28:54,867 --> 09:28:55,868
CRESCENT TRAIL ACTUALLY FORCES DRIVERS

10417
09:28:55,868 --> 09:28:57,870
AND BIKERS TO PLAY

10418
09:28:57,870 --> 09:28:58,838
CHICKEN WITH EACH OTHER . WITH DRIVERS

10419
09:28:58,838 --> 09:29:00,840
TRYING TO GUESS IF THE

10420
09:29:00,840 --> 09:29:05,640
BIKERS WILL ACTUALLY STOP AT THE STOP SIGNS

10421
09:29:07,847 --> 09:29:08,848
AND BIKERS

10422
09:29:08,848 --> 09:29:09,849
ASSUMING THE DRIVERS WILL STOP, EVEN IF

10423
09:29:09,849 --> 09:29:10,850
THEY DON'T. THAT IS WHY THE PLANNING

10424
09:29:10,850 --> 09:29:11,851
BOARD ORIGINALLY

10425
09:29:11,851 --> 09:29:13,853
VOTED FOUR TO ONE IN JUNE 2019 TO

10426
09:29:13,853 --> 09:29:15,855
ABANDON THE ROAD DIET AND HAVE EVERYBODY

10427
09:29:15,855 --> 09:29:17,857
STOP AT THE LIGHT AS BEING VISION ZERO.

10428
09:29:17,857 --> 09:29:18,858
NUMBER THREE, CONSTRICTING TRAFFIC

10429
09:29:18,858 --> 09:29:19,859
ON THE MAIN TRANSPORTATION ARTERY

10430
09:29:19,859 --> 09:29:21,859
BETWEEN BETHESDA

10431
09:29:22,862 --> 09:29:23,863
AND THE RIVER ROAD IN

10432
09:29:23,863 --> 09:29:25,865
THE FACE OF THE SIGNIFICANT COMING

10433
09:29:25,865 --> 09:29:27,865
DENSITY IS

10434
09:29:30,870 --> 09:29:31,838
SHORTSIGHTED. NO MODELING HAS BEEN

10435
09:29:31,838 --> 09:29:32,839
DONE TO

10436
09:29:32,839 --> 09:29:34,841
DETERMINE THE AREAS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS

10437
09:29:34,841 --> 09:29:36,843
OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

10438
09:29:36,843 --> 09:29:37,844
THE BETHESDA MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR

10439
09:29:37,844 --> 09:29:38,845
OVER 32 MILLION SQUARE FEET

10440
09:29:38,845 --> 09:29:39,846
OF NEW COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL

10441
09:29:39,846 --> 09:29:42,846
SPACE , THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CALLS

10442
09:29:43,850 --> 09:29:45,850
FOR ALMOST

10443
09:29:45,852 --> 09:29:46,853
2 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND ALL WITH

10444
09:29:46,853 --> 09:29:48,853
LIMITED,

10445
09:29:49,856 --> 09:29:51,856
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

10446
09:29:55,862 --> 09:29:57,862
AND THRIVE 2050 HAS

10447
09:29:57,864 --> 09:29:58,865
DETERMINED RIVER ROAD TO BE A GROWTH ZONE.

10448
09:29:58,865 --> 09:29:59,866
PARKS HAVE STATED THAT TRAFFIC ALONG THE

10449
09:29:59,866 --> 09:30:01,868
PARKWAY HAS DECLINED BY 35% SINCE

10450
09:30:01,868 --> 09:30:02,869
2016 AND ASSUME THE CURRENT DECLINE IN

10451
09:30:02,869 --> 09:30:04,837
TRAFFIC FROM THE PANDEMIC ON THE ROAD

10452
09:30:04,837 --> 09:30:07,237
DIET WILL BE MAINTAINED.

10453
09:30:13,846 --> 09:30:15,846
THEIR

10454
09:30:15,882 --> 09:30:16,883
OWN COUNTS SHOW THAT THE TRAFFIC ON THE

10455
09:30:16,883 --> 09:30:18,885
PARKWAY HAS ACTUALLY BEEN INCREASING SINCE JULY

10456
09:30:18,885 --> 09:30:19,886
2022. METRO HAS RECENTLY NOTED A SURGE

10457
09:30:19,886 --> 09:30:20,887
IN RIDERS AND GOVERNMENTAL WORKERS HAVE BEEN

10458
09:30:20,887 --> 09:30:22,889
ORDERED BACK TO WORK. NUMBER FOUR,

10459
09:30:22,889 --> 09:30:27,890
THERE IS NO NEED FOR LINEAR PARK

10460
09:30:34,901 --> 09:30:36,903
WHEN IT ALREADY SITS WITHIN 160 ACRES

10461
09:30:36,903 --> 09:30:37,904
OF LITTLE FALLS STREAM VALLEY PARK, 17 ACRES OF NORWOOD PARK, THREE ACRES

10462
09:30:37,904 --> 09:30:38,871
OF LITTLE FALLS

10463
09:30:38,871 --> 09:30:40,873
PARK, TWO ACRES OF TRAILER PARK, THREE

10464
09:30:40,873 --> 09:30:41,874
ACRES OF LITTLE FALLS AS VILLA PARK

10465
09:30:41,874 --> 09:30:43,876
NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO AND THREE

10466
09:30:43,876 --> 09:30:44,877
OUT OF 11 MILES OF CAPITAL CRESCENT

10467
09:30:44,877 --> 09:30:46,879
TRAIL LET ALONE THE BETHESDA POOL.

10468
09:30:46,879 --> 09:30:49,882
HOW CAN PARKS AND PLANNING IN

10469
09:30:49,882 --> 09:30:51,882
GOOD CONSCIENCE

10470
09:30:52,885 --> 09:30:53,886
STUFF YET ANOTHER PARK INTO THIS OVER

10471
09:30:53,886 --> 09:30:55,888
PART AREA WHEN SO MANY CITIZENS ELSEWHERE

10472
09:30:55,888 --> 09:30:58,891
IN THE COUNTY ARE IN DIRE NEED OF PARKS

10473
09:30:58,891 --> 09:30:59,892
AND GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU

10474
09:30:59,892 --> 09:31:01,894
FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION.

10475
09:31:01,894 --> 09:31:04,294
>> THANK YOU. PATRICIA JOHNSON.

10476
09:31:07,900 --> 09:31:08,901
>> I'M

10477
09:31:08,901 --> 09:31:09,902
PATRICIA JOHNSON. I LIVE IN CHEVY CHASE.

10478
09:31:09,902 --> 09:31:10,903
CHARLES BAILEY, THE OPERATIONS DIVISION

10479
09:31:10,903 --> 09:31:12,903
CHIEF

10480
09:31:13,873 --> 09:31:16,876
OF MONTGOMERY FIRE WAS QUOTED IN THE POST WHEN ASKED

10481
09:31:16,876 --> 09:31:19,879
ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE SECTION OF PARKWAY.

10482
09:31:19,879 --> 09:31:20,880
IF THERE WERE

10483
09:31:20,880 --> 09:31:22,882
SOME DEMONSTRABLE IMPACT FOR SAFETY

10484
09:31:22,882 --> 09:31:25,885
THEN I WOULD BE THROWING UP RED FLAGS IN THE BACKGROUND

10485
09:31:25,885 --> 09:31:28,888
AND I JUST DON'T SEE THEM. PARKS

10486
09:31:28,888 --> 09:31:29,889
USE THIS STATEMENT TO SUPPORT THEIR

10487
09:31:29,889 --> 09:31:31,891
CLAIM THAT THIS SECTION OF THE PARK

10488
09:31:31,891 --> 09:31:33,893
WOULD BE SAFE. I SPOKE TO CHIEF BAILEY AND

10489
09:31:33,893 --> 09:31:39,293
ASKED HIM IF HE KNEW WHERE THE ROAD WAS

10490
09:31:46,873 --> 09:31:48,873
HE

10491
09:31:48,875 --> 09:31:49,876
SAID, SURE. IT JUST HAS A LOT OF SPEED BUMPS

10492
09:31:49,876 --> 09:31:50,877
ON IT. WHAT'S THE

10493
09:31:50,877 --> 09:31:51,878
PROBLEM? MISTAKENLY HE WAS REFERRING

10494
09:31:51,878 --> 09:31:52,879
TO THE PARKWAY BETWEEN RIVER ROAD

10495
09:31:52,879 --> 09:31:54,881
AND MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE. I TOLD

10496
09:31:54,881 --> 09:31:55,882
HIM THAT THE PIECE OF ROADWAY IN QUESTION

10497
09:31:55,882 --> 09:31:57,884
WAS BETWEEN DORSET AVENUE AND ARLINGTON ROAD.

10498
09:31:57,884 --> 09:31:58,885
CHIEF BAILEY SAID HE DID NOT KNOW

10499
09:31:58,885 --> 09:32:00,887
WHERE THAT PIECE OF ROAD WAS WHEN HE

10500
09:32:00,887 --> 09:32:01,888
WAS QUOTED BY THE POST. I TOLD HIM

10501
09:32:01,888 --> 09:32:03,890
I HAD REPORTS FROM FIRE

10502
09:32:03,890 --> 09:32:04,891
STATION SIX AND BETHESDA AND GLEN ECHO

10503
09:32:04,891 --> 09:32:05,892
FIRE PERSONNEL THAT THERE WAS

10504
09:32:05,892 --> 09:32:07,894
A PROBLEM WITH THIS NARROW, CURVING, ROADWAY.

10505
09:32:07,894 --> 09:32:08,895
ON MARCH 8th CHIEF BAILEY DROVE THAT PART OF THE

10506
09:32:08,895 --> 09:32:10,897
PARKWAY. COINCIDENTALLY, HE WAS FIRST ON

10507
09:32:10,897 --> 09:32:11,898
THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF

10508
09:32:11,898 --> 09:32:13,933
DORSET AVENUE AND LITTLE FALLS. A

10509
09:32:13,933 --> 09:32:16,936
PERSON HAD FALLEN ON UNTRIMMED TREE ROOTS ON

10510
09:32:16,936 --> 09:32:18,936
THE PARKS

10511
09:32:22,909 --> 09:32:24,911
PATH AND BROKEN A LEG. I

10512
09:32:24,911 --> 09:32:25,912
HAPPEN TO BE CROSSING THE INTERSECTION

10513
09:32:25,912 --> 09:32:27,914
AT THAT TIME. I SAW FIRE CHIEFS CAR DIAGONALLY ON

10514
09:32:27,914 --> 09:32:28,915
THE GRASS, AN AMBULANCE IN THE ROADWAY

10515
09:32:28,915 --> 09:32:31,918
AND A FIRE TRUCK COMING UP FROM

10516
09:32:31,918 --> 09:32:33,920
RIVER ROAD. CHIEF BAILEY CALLED

10517
09:32:33,920 --> 09:32:34,921
ME AFTER THE ACCIDENT AND LEFT A MESSAGE.

10518
09:32:34,921 --> 09:32:36,923
HE SAID, I SEE IT NOW.

10519
09:32:36,923 --> 09:32:37,924
YOU HAVE A POINT. I'M GOING TO TALK

10520
09:32:37,924 --> 09:32:39,926
TO MY CHIEFS. I OBSERVED FIRSTHAND THAT

10521
09:32:39,926 --> 09:32:40,927
THERE WAS NO ROOM TO PULL AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE

10522
09:32:40,927 --> 09:32:42,927
OVER TO GET

10523
09:32:42,929 --> 09:32:43,930
TO THE VICTIM. I HAD AN AMBULANCE BEHIND

10524
09:32:43,930 --> 09:32:45,932
ME AND I COULD NOT PULL OVER BECAUSE OF

10525
09:32:45,932 --> 09:32:46,933
THE NARROW SHOULDERS AND PLANTED TREES.

10526
09:32:46,933 --> 09:32:50,533
I OBSERVED HOOK AND LADDER RIDS.

10527
09:32:58,911 --> 09:32:59,912
IT CAN COST PRECIOUS TIME AND IS DANGEROUS

10528
09:32:59,912 --> 09:33:00,913
WHERE THERE

10529
09:33:00,913 --> 09:33:01,914
ARE NO SIDEWALKS. I ALSO SUBMIT A LETTER

10530
09:33:01,914 --> 09:33:02,915
FROM ASSISTANT CHIEF SAFETY ADAM JONES,

10531
09:33:02,915 --> 09:33:03,916
CHIEF JONES

10532
09:33:03,916 --> 09:33:07,920
VISITED THE AREA, HE ANALYZED THE CURRENT

10533
09:33:07,920 --> 09:33:08,921
CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL CROSSING AND

10534
09:33:08,921 --> 09:33:11,924
IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING HAZARDS. NUMBER ONE, REMOVAL

10535
09:33:11,924 --> 09:33:14,324
OF THE MEDIANS LEAVES

10536
09:33:14,927 --> 09:33:15,928
USERS NO PLACE FOR REFUGE

10537
09:33:15,928 --> 09:33:17,930
AS THE CROSS. NUMBER TWO, VEHICLE

10538
09:33:17,930 --> 09:33:19,930
HEIGHTS CAUSE

10539
09:33:36,916 --> 09:33:37,917
BLIND SPOTS FOR CROSSING PEDESTRIANS

10540
09:33:37,917 --> 09:33:38,918
AND BIKERS. NUMBER THREE, THE NARROWED

10541
09:33:38,918 --> 09:33:39,919
STREET CONFIGURATION PRIOR

10542
09:33:39,919 --> 09:33:40,920
TO THE CROSSING CAN CAUSE EMERGENCY

10543
09:33:40,920 --> 09:33:41,921
VEHICLES TO AVOID THE AREA AND USE

10544
09:33:41,921 --> 09:33:42,922
THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS

10545
09:33:42,922 --> 09:33:43,923
TO REACH AN ACCIDENT QUICKLY. TIME

10546
09:33:43,923 --> 09:33:44,924
IS PRECIOUS WHEN SAVING A LIFE. I

10547
09:33:44,924 --> 09:33:45,925
URGE YOU

10548
09:33:45,925 --> 09:33:47,927
ALL TO DRIVE THIS STRETCH OF ROAD

10549
09:33:47,927 --> 09:33:48,928
AT RUSH HOUR AND AT NIGHT BEFORE

10550
09:33:48,928 --> 09:33:49,929
YOU VOTE. OPEN THE PARKWAY TO FOUR

10551
09:33:49,929 --> 09:33:50,930
LANES AND RESTORE THE MEDIAN FOR SAFETY.

10552
09:33:50,930 --> 09:33:51,931
I

10553
09:33:51,931 --> 09:33:53,933
ALSO HAVE 30 SECONDS --I TOOK PICTURES

10554
09:33:53,933 --> 09:33:54,934
OF THE PARKWAY EVERY WEEKEND FOR

10555
09:33:54,934 --> 09:33:56,936
NINE MONTHS FROM OCTOBER 2021 TO JUNE

10556
09:33:56,936 --> 09:33:57,937
11th, 2022. THE PARK WAS CLOSED FROM ARLINGTON

10557
09:33:57,937 --> 09:33:58,905
ROAD TO RIVER. NO MATTER WHAT KYLE

10558
09:33:58,905 --> 09:33:59,905
SAYS THAT THERE WERE 3000 PEOPLE A

10559
09:33:59,905 --> 09:34:00,907
DAY,

10560
09:34:00,907 --> 09:34:02,909
THERE WAS NO ONE ON THAT PARKWAY.

10561
09:34:02,909 --> 09:34:03,909
CAN I SUBMIT THIS TO YOU? I'VE

10562
09:34:03,909 --> 09:34:05,911
SENT IT IN AS VIDEO BUT I WOULD LIKE

10563
09:34:05,911 --> 09:34:07,913
TO GIVE YOU HARD COPIES.

10564
09:34:07,913 --> 09:34:12,113
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

10565
09:34:15,955 --> 09:34:17,957
PHYLLIS EDELMAN. >> GOOD EVENING.

10566
09:34:17,957 --> 09:34:20,960
MY NAME IS PHYLLIS EDELMAN. I'M A

10567
09:34:20,960 --> 09:34:22,960
RESIDENT OF SPRINGFIELD

10568
09:34:25,965 --> 09:34:26,966
AND BETHESDA AND A PAST PRESIDENT

10569
09:34:26,966 --> 09:34:27,967
OF THE SPRINGFIELD

10570
09:34:27,967 --> 09:34:28,968
CIVIC ASSOCIATION. THE PUBLIC REASON

10571
09:34:28,968 --> 09:34:29,969
FOR THIS HEARING IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT

10572
09:34:29,969 --> 09:34:30,970
IS SEEKING APPROVAL

10573
09:34:30,970 --> 09:34:32,939
FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR ITS UNILATERAL

10574
09:34:32,939 --> 09:34:33,939
CLOSURE OF TWO LANES OF

10575
09:34:33,939 --> 09:34:35,941
TRAFFIC ALONG 4/10 OF A MILE OF LITTLE

10576
09:34:35,941 --> 09:34:37,943
FALLS PARKWAY. I BELIEVE THE

10577
09:34:37,943 --> 09:34:38,945
PARKS DEPARTMENT IS JUST INTERESTED

10578
09:34:38,945 --> 09:34:40,945
IN PURSUING GOALS

10579
09:34:41,947 --> 09:34:44,951
IT HAS SET IN ITS OWN 2022

10580
09:34:44,951 --> 09:34:47,953
PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN.

10581
09:34:47,953 --> 09:34:49,956
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO

10582
09:34:49,956 --> 09:34:50,956
SHUT DOWN HALF OF A VITAL CONNECTING

10583
09:34:50,956 --> 09:34:52,956
ROAD IN

10584
09:34:53,960 --> 09:34:56,962
AN AREA THAT IS PARK RICH?

10585
09:34:56,962 --> 09:34:58,964
BECAUSE IT IS LOW HANGING FRUIT? PARKS

10586
09:34:58,964 --> 09:35:02,968
DID NOT HAVE TO PURCHASE THE LAND

10587
09:35:02,968 --> 09:35:03,970
AND THEY

10588
09:35:03,970 --> 09:35:04,970
ADMIT TO SPENDING ONLY $130,000 ON

10589
09:35:04,970 --> 09:35:05,938
CLOSING AND OPENING AND RE-CLOSING

10590
09:35:05,938 --> 09:35:07,938
THIS 4/10

10591
09:35:08,941 --> 09:35:11,941
OF A MILE OF ROAD.

10592
09:35:11,944 --> 09:35:12,945
WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR NEXT REPORT

10593
09:35:12,945 --> 09:35:14,947
TO THE COUNTY COUNSEL THOUGH THEY CAN

10594
09:35:14,947 --> 09:35:17,950
INCLUDE HOW THEY HAVE RETURNED PARKWAY

10595
09:35:17,950 --> 09:35:19,950
TO PARKLAND.

10596
09:35:19,952 --> 09:35:20,953
THEIR WEBSITE ABOUT THE PROPOSED LINEAR

10597
09:35:20,953 --> 09:35:22,953
PARK WENT

10598
09:35:23,956 --> 09:35:25,958
FROM DESCRIBING IT AS INNOVATIVE

10599
09:35:25,958 --> 09:35:26,959
, LIKE THE NEW YORK CITY HIGH LINE,

10600
09:35:26,959 --> 09:35:27,960
TO NOW SAYING

10601
09:35:27,960 --> 09:35:29,962
NOTHING ABOUT IT. NOTHING. AS THEY

10602
09:35:29,962 --> 09:35:32,965
TOLD YOU TODAY, WHAT THEY CAN DO

10603
09:35:32,965 --> 09:35:35,968
IS PROVIDE GAINS WHICH THEY HAPPEN

10604
09:35:35,968 --> 09:35:37,970
TO HAVE IN STORAGE. INNOVATIVE?

10605
09:35:37,970 --> 09:35:38,938
THEIR OBJECTIVE? TO ATTRACT NEW USERS

10606
09:35:38,938 --> 09:35:40,938
WHO OTHERWISE

10607
09:35:41,941 --> 09:35:44,944
WOULD NOT BE LORD TO VISIT OUR

10608
09:35:44,944 --> 09:35:46,944
NEARBY PARKS.

10609
09:35:47,947 --> 09:35:49,949
THE PARKS PLAN ALSO INDICATES ABOUT

10610
09:35:49,949 --> 09:35:54,149
HOW PARKS FEEL ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT

10611
09:35:59,959 --> 09:36:00,960
, ESPECIALLY AT A

10612
09:36:00,960 --> 09:36:01,961
HEARING LIKE THIS. QUOTE, A FUNDAMENTAL

10613
09:36:01,961 --> 09:36:02,962
WEAKNESS OF BOTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL

10614
09:36:02,962 --> 09:36:04,962
MEETINGS, HOWEVER,

10615
09:36:04,964 --> 09:36:05,965
IS A TENDENCY FOR THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT

10616
09:36:05,965 --> 09:36:06,966
TO AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF THE

10617
09:36:06,966 --> 09:36:07,967
PEOPLE WITH THE STRONGEST BUT NOT

10618
09:36:07,967 --> 09:36:10,967
NECESSARILY THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE OPINIONS

10619
09:36:12,400 --> 09:36:12,972
. I HOPE THE PLANNING BOARD

10620
09:36:12,972 --> 09:36:14,974
DOESN'T HOLD THE SAME OPINION. YOU

10621
09:36:14,974 --> 09:36:17,977
ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY

10622
09:36:17,977 --> 09:36:19,977
GENERATED PETITION

10623
09:36:19,979 --> 09:36:20,980
ASKING THAT LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY BE RESTORED

10624
09:36:20,980 --> 09:36:22,980
TO FOUR LANES

10625
09:36:23,983 --> 09:36:25,983
TO

10626
09:36:25,985 --> 09:36:26,986
SEE THAT THOUSANDS OF STAKEHOLDERS, TAXPAYERS

10627
09:36:26,986 --> 09:36:28,986
AGREE.

10628
09:36:28,988 --> 09:36:31,991
THEY WOULD LIKE TO ROAD OPEN. THE

10629
09:36:31,991 --> 09:36:32,992
PARKS DEPARTMENT LACK OF RESPECT FOR

10630
09:36:32,992 --> 09:36:34,992
INPUT IS EVIDENT

10631
09:36:35,995 --> 09:36:37,995
IN THE MATERIALS

10632
09:36:37,997 --> 09:36:38,998
THEY DID NOT PRESENT TO YOU. THEY

10633
09:36:38,998 --> 09:36:42,100
STUDY THE TRAFFIC ON LITTLE FALLS

10634
09:36:42,100 --> 09:36:45,400
PARKWAY BUT WHAT ABOUT A FORMAL

10635
09:36:45,400 --> 09:36:47,400
NEEDS ASSESSMENT SURVEY

10636
09:36:48,974 --> 09:36:50,976
OF THE NEARBY COMMUNITIES ON CLOSING

10637
09:36:50,976 --> 09:36:52,978
TWO LANES OF THE PARKWAY. THEY NEVER DID THIS.

10638
09:36:52,978 --> 09:36:53,979
THE RESIDENCE OF THE KENWOOD COMMUNITY PUT

10639
09:36:53,979 --> 09:36:55,979
TOGETHER A COMMUNITY

10640
09:36:55,981 --> 09:36:56,982
AND PUT A SURVEY AND DISTRIBUTE IT

10641
09:36:56,982 --> 09:36:58,982
TO OUR COMMUNITY.

10642
09:37:05,991 --> 09:37:07,993
IT HEAVILY SUPPORTS REOPENING LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY TO

10643
09:37:07,993 --> 09:37:08,994
FOUR LANES. WHEN I ASSUMED THAT PARKS

10644
09:37:08,994 --> 09:37:10,996
WOULD DISCOUNT THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DONE

10645
09:37:10,996 --> 09:37:11,997
BY THE PUBLIC , AND WE CLEARLY DON'T

10646
09:37:11,997 --> 09:37:13,997
REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITIES.

10647
09:37:15,000 --> 09:37:17,000
PARKS EMPHASIZES THE

10648
09:37:17,200 --> 09:37:18,300
NEED TO PUT THE RIGHT PARK IN THE

10649
09:37:18,300 --> 09:37:19,972
RIGHT PLACE. THIS IS NOT THE

10650
09:37:19,972 --> 09:37:20,973
RIGHT PARK AND THIS IS DEFINITELY

10651
09:37:20,973 --> 09:37:22,973
NOT THE

10652
09:37:23,976 --> 09:37:25,976
RIGHT PLACE.

10653
09:37:25,978 --> 09:37:26,979
PLEASE, RESTORE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

10654
09:37:26,979 --> 09:37:28,979
TO FOUR LANES

10655
09:37:28,981 --> 09:37:29,982
SAFETY ACCOMMODATIONS MADE FOR THE

10656
09:37:29,982 --> 09:37:31,982
ROAD DIET

10657
09:37:34,987 --> 09:37:35,988
AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL CROSSING.

10658
09:37:35,988 --> 09:37:38,991
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR

10659
09:37:38,991 --> 09:37:40,991
TESTIMONY. BRYCE?

10660
09:37:41,994 --> 09:37:43,994
>> MY

10661
09:37:44,997 --> 09:37:46,999
NAME IS BRYCE. I LIVE

10662
09:37:46,999 --> 09:37:48,000
IN GREENACRES. THAT IS ON THE CORNER

10663
09:37:48,000 --> 09:37:50,000
OF RIVER

10664
09:37:51,300 --> 09:37:53,973
ROAD AND LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

10665
09:37:53,973 --> 09:37:56,973
ON MY WEEKENDS I'M EMPLOYED

10666
09:37:56,976 --> 09:37:59,979
TO TEACH HOW TO RIDE A BIKE AND

10667
09:37:59,979 --> 09:38:02,982
ABOUT 10% OF THE PEOPLE I TAUGHT LAST YEAR

10668
09:38:02,982 --> 09:38:05,951
I TAUGHT ON THE LINEAR PARK.

10669
09:38:05,951 --> 09:38:08,954
IT IS PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE

10670
09:38:08,954 --> 09:38:11,991
THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE D.C. AREA ,

10671
09:38:11,991 --> 09:38:16,191
GREATER D.C. AREA, TO TEACH BECAUSE

10672
09:38:17,997 --> 09:38:21,000
IT IS A LINEAR PARK, NOT A PARKING LOT THAT

10673
09:38:21,000 --> 09:38:23,200
IS BEING REPURPOSED . IT IS QUITE DIFFICULT,

10674
09:38:23,200 --> 09:38:25,971
EVEN FOR LARGE ORGANIZATIONS, TO REPURPOSE

10675
09:38:25,971 --> 09:38:26,972
PARKING LOTS, THERE IS ALWAYS THE

10676
09:38:26,972 --> 09:38:29,972
THREAT OF CARS COMING IN

10677
09:38:29,975 --> 09:38:31,977
AND CARS CAN BE PARKED AND LEFT EVERY

10678
09:38:31,977 --> 09:38:32,978
NIGHT IN THE WAY OF THE SPACE. WHEN

10679
09:38:32,978 --> 09:38:34,978
I TEACH FRIENDS

10680
09:38:35,981 --> 09:38:37,981
AND

10681
09:38:37,983 --> 09:38:38,984
TEACH MY OWN KIDS, IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT

10682
09:38:38,984 --> 09:38:39,985
I CAN GO TO

10683
09:38:39,985 --> 09:38:41,987
A PLACE THAT WILL ALWAYS BE READY

10684
09:38:41,987 --> 09:38:43,989
AND AVAILABLE. I DON'T HAVE

10685
09:38:43,989 --> 09:38:44,990
THE STRENGTH OF AN ORGANIZATION TO BLOCK

10686
09:38:44,990 --> 09:38:47,390
OUT PARKING LOTS. YES,

10687
09:38:47,993 --> 09:38:50,993
IT IS A GREAT PLACE.

10688
09:38:50,996 --> 09:38:52,998
THERE ARE VARYING PITCHES TO IT.

10689
09:38:52,998 --> 09:38:53,999
I'VE TAUGHT BOTH CHILDREN AND ADULTS

10690
09:38:53,999 --> 09:38:56,100
HOW TO RIDE A BIKE. YOU NEED A

10691
09:38:56,100 --> 09:38:57,200
SLOPE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE RIGHT

10692
09:38:57,200 --> 09:39:00,200
GLIDE. YOU CONFIDE THAT THERE.

10693
09:39:12,985 --> 09:39:14,985
OBVIOUSLY,

10694
09:39:14,987 --> 09:39:17,990
IF YOU ROLL DOWN AND YOU CANCEL YOUR SPEED

10695
09:39:17,990 --> 09:39:18,991
THE RUNWAY IS STRIKING THAT CURB.

10696
09:39:18,991 --> 09:39:20,991
IT'S ALSO NICE

10697
09:39:20,993 --> 09:39:24,593
AND WIDE. STREETLIGHTS AND POST THEIR.

10698
09:39:28,000 --> 09:39:31,000
IT'S A PERFECT PLACE IN

10699
09:39:31,300 --> 09:39:33,300
THE AREA.

10700
09:39:33,973 --> 09:39:36,973
WHEN IT COMES TO WRITING

10701
09:39:36,976 --> 09:39:38,978
I'VE NOTICED , HIGH SCHOOLERS ARE

10702
09:39:38,978 --> 09:39:42,982
THE ONE THAT RIDE THEIR BIKES WITH

10703
09:39:42,982 --> 09:39:45,985
A SHOVEL, BUT MOST OF THE

10704
09:39:45,985 --> 09:39:47,985
LINEUP ON

10705
09:39:48,988 --> 09:39:49,989
LITTLE

10706
09:39:49,989 --> 09:39:50,990
FALLS PARKWAY HAS BEEN DUG UP AND TURNED

10707
09:39:50,990 --> 09:39:51,991
INTO UNOFFICIAL MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS.

10708
09:39:51,991 --> 09:39:52,992
I

10709
09:39:52,992 --> 09:39:54,994
THINK THE JUMPS ARE COOL BUT THE LANDINGS,

10710
09:39:54,994 --> 09:39:57,997
NOT SO GREAT. THAT WOULD BE A

10711
09:39:57,997 --> 09:39:58,998
POTENTIAL OPTION FOR

10712
09:39:58,998 --> 09:40:01,000
PARKS TO EMPLOY A PROPERLY DESIGNED

10713
09:40:01,000 --> 09:40:03,000
AND BUILT COURSE.

10714
09:40:04,300 --> 09:40:06,300
WITH THAT, HEY,

10715
09:40:06,972 --> 09:40:08,972
I DRIVE IT,

10716
09:40:08,974 --> 09:40:10,900
I'VE TRIED BIKE COMMUTING IT, WHEN

10717
09:40:10,900 --> 09:40:12,900
IT WAS

10718
09:40:13,120 --> 09:40:15,120
FOUR LANES,

10719
09:40:19,180 --> 09:40:21,180
--THE

10720
09:40:22,210 --> 09:40:25,210
ENTIRE TIME I BUY COMMUNITY,

10721
09:40:25,240 --> 09:40:26,250
I BUY

10722
09:40:26,250 --> 09:40:28,270
COMMUTED WHEN IT WAS FOUR LANES. I

10723
09:40:28,270 --> 09:40:30,290
HARDLY SAW A CYCLIST.

10724
09:40:30,290 --> 09:40:32,310
AT THE LINEAR PARK LAST NIGHT I SAW

10725
09:40:32,310 --> 09:40:34,330
MORE BY COMMUTERS ON THAT ROAD THAT

10726
09:40:34,330 --> 09:40:36,350
I HAVE EVER SEEN IN THE

10727
09:40:36,350 --> 09:40:40,500
ENTIRE TIME BEFORE WHEN IT WAS A FOUR

10728
09:40:40,500 --> 09:40:43,605
LANE ROAD. LET'S SEE, WITH THAT,

10729
09:40:44,900 --> 09:40:46,110
I SUPPORTED THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU

10730
09:40:46,110 --> 09:40:48,110
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

10731
09:40:49,140 --> 09:40:51,160
>> ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT FIVE

10732
09:40:51,160 --> 09:40:55,816
PEOPLE IF I COULD CALL UP, JENNY, REBECCA,

10733
09:40:58,230 --> 09:41:00,230
HOLLY,

10734
09:41:01,260 --> 09:41:03,260
CARL BECKER,

10735
09:41:04,290 --> 09:41:06,290
AND DAVID.

10736
09:41:34,260 --> 09:41:36,260
>> IF I

10737
09:41:37,290 --> 09:41:38,300
COULD HAVE JENNY. MIKE,

10738
09:41:38,300 --> 09:41:40,320
PLEASE. >> THAT WOULD HELP. THANK YOU.

10739
09:41:40,320 --> 09:41:42,320
EARLY IN

10740
09:41:43,350 --> 09:41:44,360
THE WEEK

10741
09:41:44,360 --> 09:41:46,400
I SENT A COMPLETE LIST OF INVENTORY

10742
09:41:46,400 --> 09:41:48,404
OF PARKS AND TRAILS

10743
09:41:52,100 --> 09:41:53,110
,

10744
09:41:53,110 --> 09:41:55,130
I'M SORRY DID NOT BRING YOU ALL A COPY

10745
09:41:55,130 --> 09:41:57,150
TODAY. I HOPE YOU WILL LOOK ON

10746
09:41:57,150 --> 09:41:58,160
IT. IT HAS A LINK TO GOOGLE MAP AND

10747
09:41:58,160 --> 09:41:59,170
IT IS A PRETTY

10748
09:41:59,170 --> 09:42:01,190
COMPLETE DESCRIPTION AVAILABLE. SO,

10749
09:42:01,190 --> 09:42:04,220
I HOPE YOU WILL LOOK AT THAT IN

10750
09:42:04,220 --> 09:42:07,622
VIEW OF MY TESTIMONY. THANK YOU.

10751
09:42:09,610 --> 09:42:10,620
I AM AWARE THAT THIS HEARING IS FOCUSED ON

10752
09:42:10,620 --> 09:42:12,640
THE PROPOSED LANE REDUCTION

10753
09:42:12,640 --> 09:42:13,650
OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY , MY COMMENTS

10754
09:42:13,650 --> 09:42:16,650
ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE PROPOSED

10755
09:42:16,680 --> 09:42:18,680
LINEAR PARK

10756
09:42:18,700 --> 09:42:19,710
WHICH IS PARKS A GOAL IF THE LANES

10757
09:42:19,710 --> 09:42:21,710
ARE

10758
09:42:22,400 --> 09:42:24,420
PERMANENTLY REDUCED. I AM A SUPPORTER OF

10759
09:42:24,420 --> 09:42:27,450
PARKS AND GREEN SPACE FOR ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS

10760
09:42:27,450 --> 09:42:28,460
BUT I BELIEVE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT

10761
09:42:28,460 --> 09:42:29,470
WHERE IT IS

10762
09:42:29,470 --> 09:42:31,490
NEEDED, WHERE IT IS WANTED, AND WHERE

10763
09:42:31,490 --> 09:42:34,649
IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

10764
09:42:37,550 --> 09:42:38,560
THE PROPOSED LINEAR PARK IS NOT NEEDED OR WANTED BY

10765
09:42:38,560 --> 09:42:39,570
THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEAR

10766
09:42:39,570 --> 09:42:40,580
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. THERE ARE NUMEROUS

10767
09:42:40,580 --> 09:42:42,580
PLAYGROUNDS

10768
09:42:43,610 --> 09:42:45,610
, TRAILS,

10769
09:42:46,640 --> 09:42:49,670
AND WALKING AREAS ALL VERY CLOSE TO THE PARKWAY.

10770
09:42:49,670 --> 09:42:51,690
THESE MANY AREAS OFFER

10771
09:42:51,690 --> 09:42:52,700
AMPLE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR

10772
09:42:52,700 --> 09:42:55,400
OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY

10773
09:42:55,400 --> 09:42:58,430
ARE SAFE AND THEY DON'T DISRUPT OTHER

10774
09:42:58,430 --> 09:43:01,430
ASPECTS OF OUR COMMUNITY LIKE

10775
09:43:01,460 --> 09:43:02,470
TRAFFIC AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

10776
09:43:02,470 --> 09:43:04,490
THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS ADOPTED

10777
09:43:04,490 --> 09:43:07,520
A POLICY OF SPENDING MONEY AND

10778
09:43:07,520 --> 09:43:10,550
VIEWING PROJECTS WITH A CONCERN FOR EQUITY.

10779
09:43:10,550 --> 09:43:12,455
THE PROPOSED LINEAR PARK

10780
09:43:15,600 --> 09:43:16,610
DOES NOT PASSED THE TEST FOR EQUITY.

10781
09:43:16,610 --> 09:43:17,620
SINCE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN OUR

10782
09:43:17,620 --> 09:43:19,640
COUNTY WITH LESS AND NO CONVENIENT

10783
09:43:19,640 --> 09:43:21,640
RECREATIONAL OPTIONS.

10784
09:43:22,670 --> 09:43:25,670
CLOSE TO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

10785
09:43:27,390 --> 09:43:28,400
AND MUCH MORE IN NEED OF GREEN SPACE IS

10786
09:43:28,400 --> 09:43:31,400
THE WEST BARRED AREA WHICH

10787
09:43:31,430 --> 09:43:33,450
RUNS ADJACENT TO THE BRANCH AND

10788
09:43:33,450 --> 09:43:34,460
IS CONSIDERED THE PRIMARY COMMUNITY ASSET.

10789
09:43:34,460 --> 09:43:36,460
THE

10790
09:43:37,490 --> 09:43:39,490
SECTOR PLANNED

10791
09:43:40,520 --> 09:43:42,520
NATURALIZATION AND GREENWAY

10792
09:43:42,540 --> 09:43:43,550
ALONGSIDE THE STREAM THAT WOULD START AT

10793
09:43:43,550 --> 09:43:45,550
RIDGEFIELD ROAD

10794
09:43:45,570 --> 09:43:46,580
AND CONNECT TO THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

10795
09:43:46,580 --> 09:43:48,580
TRAIL. MOREOVER, WHEN

10796
09:43:49,610 --> 09:43:51,461
CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE THERE,

10797
09:43:54,660 --> 09:43:55,670
THEY WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 100 TOWNHOUSES,

10798
09:43:55,670 --> 09:43:57,670
165 MULTIFAMILY UNITS

10799
09:43:58,700 --> 09:44:00,470
IN NEW DEVELOPMENT AS

10800
09:44:01,390 --> 09:44:03,410
WELL AS A NEW 155

10801
09:44:03,410 --> 09:44:04,420
BED NURSING FACILITY ON THE CORNER

10802
09:44:04,420 --> 09:44:06,420
OF RIDGEFIELD

10803
09:44:07,790 --> 09:44:09,479
AND WEST BARRED. IN

10804
09:44:10,820 --> 09:44:12,840
ADDITION TO THE NEW RESIDENTS IN AND

10805
09:44:12,840 --> 09:44:15,840
NEAR THE WEST BARRED DEVELOPMENT,

10806
09:44:16,880 --> 09:44:18,880
THE PROJECTION IS 8000

10807
09:44:20,920 --> 09:44:22,940
ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS. WHY

10808
09:44:22,940 --> 09:44:23,950
AREN'T WE FOCUSING ON THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TRAFFIC

10809
09:44:23,950 --> 09:44:25,970
INCREASE ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY?

10810
09:44:25,970 --> 09:44:27,497
WHY ARE WE FOCUSING

10811
09:44:28,100 --> 09:44:30,102
ON DEVELOPING POCKET PARKS OR MORE GREEN SPACE

10812
09:44:30,102 --> 09:44:31,103
AMONG THE MANY HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS

10813
09:44:31,103 --> 09:44:33,103
IN BETHESDA.

10814
09:44:37,750 --> 09:44:40,750
IT IS CRITICAL WE CONCERN

10815
09:44:46,840 --> 09:44:48,860
PRESSING ISSUES ESPECIALLY SAFETY AND TRAFFIC ISSUES.

10816
09:44:48,860 --> 09:44:49,870
AND IT IS VERY CRITICAL THAT A MORE

10817
09:44:49,870 --> 09:44:51,890
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IS USED AS WE GO FORWARD. THANK

10818
09:44:51,890 --> 09:44:54,689
YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

10819
09:44:55,930 --> 09:44:57,950
REBECCA HANSON? >> YES, THAT'S ME.

10820
09:44:57,950 --> 09:44:59,970
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS REBECCA HANSON.

10821
09:44:59,970 --> 09:45:02,970
>> OH, YOU GET FIVE MINUTES.

10822
09:45:05,103 --> 09:45:08,730
I DIDN'T INTRODUCE YOU PROPERLY.

10823
09:45:08,730 --> 09:45:10,750
EXCUSE ME. >> THAT'S FINE.

10824
09:45:10,750 --> 09:45:11,760
MY NAME IS REBECCA HANSON AND I'M

10825
09:45:11,760 --> 09:45:13,760
COPRESIDENT OF THE

10826
09:45:14,790 --> 09:45:16,790
WEST MORELAND

10827
09:45:20,850 --> 09:45:22,870
CITIZEN ASSOCIATION, A COMMUNITY OF 1000 HOMES

10828
09:45:22,870 --> 09:45:23,880
PARTIALLY ABUTTING LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

10829
09:45:23,880 --> 09:45:24,890
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR

10830
09:45:24,890 --> 09:45:26,910
20 YEARS AND MY FAMILY USES THE CAPITAL

10831
09:45:26,910 --> 09:45:27,920
CRESCENT TRAIL AND THE PARKWAY REGULARLY.

10832
09:45:27,920 --> 09:45:29,940
I SUBMITTED WRITTEN TESTIMONY RESPONDED TO

10833
09:45:29,940 --> 09:45:31,494
THE POINTS MADE EARLIER

10834
09:45:32,970 --> 09:45:33,980
IN PARKS HIS PRESENTATION BUT TODAY

10835
09:45:33,980 --> 09:45:34,990
I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT IN

10836
09:45:34,990 --> 09:45:37,102
WHICH YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WHAT YOU

10837
09:45:37,102 --> 09:45:38,103
HEAR TODAY. I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH

10838
09:45:38,103 --> 09:45:39,104
OPPONENTS TO PARKS HIS

10839
09:45:39,104 --> 09:45:42,704
PROPOSAL AND I CAN SAY UNEQUIVOCALLY

10840
09:45:44,760 --> 09:45:45,770
WE ARE

10841
09:45:45,770 --> 09:45:46,780
NOT AGAINST BIKERS, MANY OF US AND OUR

10842
09:45:46,780 --> 09:45:47,790
FAMILIES BIKE THE TRAIL OFTEN AND

10843
09:45:47,790 --> 09:45:48,800
WANT

10844
09:45:48,800 --> 09:45:50,820
THE SAFEST TRAIL CROSSING POSSIBLE.

10845
09:45:50,820 --> 09:45:51,830
THESE DO NOT BIND

10846
09:45:51,830 --> 09:45:53,850
THE FALSE NARRATIVE THAT THIS DEBATE

10847
09:45:53,850 --> 09:45:56,880
IS EITHER PRO OR ANTI-BIKER BECAUSE IT

10848
09:45:56,880 --> 09:45:58,880
IS NOT.

10849
09:45:58,900 --> 09:45:59,910
WE ARE NOT AGAINST PARK SPACE, WE

10850
09:45:59,910 --> 09:46:00,920
LOVE

10851
09:46:00,920 --> 09:46:03,950
THE 170 ACRE PLUS ACREAGE OF PARKLAND ACROSS

10852
09:46:03,950 --> 09:46:04,960
THE TRAIL AND PARKWAY BUT WE WANT TO

10853
09:46:04,960 --> 09:46:05,970
BALANCE HIS NATURAL BEAUTY WITH THE

10854
09:46:05,970 --> 09:46:06,131
IMPORTANT

10855
09:46:06,131 --> 09:46:10,331
FUNCTION, THE PARKWAY. WE ARE ALSO NOT

10856
09:46:11,136 --> 09:46:12,137
NEED BE MINDED,

10857
09:46:12,137 --> 09:46:14,106
INSULTING LABELS LIKE THIS DETRACT

10858
09:46:14,106 --> 09:46:16,506
FROM THE HARD WORK

10859
09:46:17,109 --> 09:46:18,110
AND

10860
09:46:18,110 --> 09:46:19,111
MONEY THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN OUR

10861
09:46:19,111 --> 09:46:20,112
EFFORT. WE SUPPORT A COMMONSENSE APPROACH

10862
09:46:20,112 --> 09:46:22,112
TO SAFETY

10863
09:46:23,115 --> 09:46:24,116
AND PRUDENT USE OF PARK RESOURCES. OUR

10864
09:46:24,116 --> 09:46:25,117
VIEWS ARE VALID AND SHOULD BE RESPECTED IN

10865
09:46:25,117 --> 09:46:28,117
YOUR DELIBERATIONS. WE ARE AGAINST

10866
09:46:28,120 --> 09:46:29,121
THE PROCESS THAT PARKS HAS FOLLOWED

10867
09:46:29,121 --> 09:46:31,121
WITH

10868
09:46:31,123 --> 09:46:32,124
THIS PROPOSAL. THEY HAVE COMPILED

10869
09:46:32,124 --> 09:46:34,124
DATA THAT

10870
09:46:35,127 --> 09:46:37,127
IS INCOMPLETE

10871
09:46:37,129 --> 09:46:38,130
AND APPEARS TO BE GEARED TO SUPPORT

10872
09:46:38,130 --> 09:46:40,130
THEIR DESIRED OUTCOME.

10873
09:46:41,133 --> 09:46:42,134
THEY'VE IGNORED

10874
09:46:42,134 --> 09:46:43,135
SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUES WHICH ARE WELL

10875
09:46:43,135 --> 09:46:46,735
DOCUMENTED IN THE RECORD WHICH YOU

10876
09:46:47,105 --> 09:46:49,105
WILL SEE.

10877
09:46:57,115 --> 09:46:58,116
THE APPEARED TO HAVE FAVORED PROPONENTS

10878
09:46:58,116 --> 09:46:59,117
OF THE PLAN AND HAVE DISREGARDED LEGITIMATE

10879
09:46:59,117 --> 09:47:00,118
OPPOSING

10880
09:47:00,118 --> 09:47:01,119
VIEWS. IN ALL, PARKS HAS IGNORED BASIC

10881
09:47:01,119 --> 09:47:02,120
DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES OF FAIRNESS

10882
09:47:02,120 --> 09:47:03,121
AND TRANSPARENCY THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY

10883
09:47:03,121 --> 09:47:04,122
RESIDENTS EXPECT FROM THEIR GOVERNMENT

10884
09:47:04,122 --> 09:47:05,123
OFFICIALS, WHETHER ELECTED OR APPOINTED.

10885
09:47:05,123 --> 09:47:06,124
WE ARE HERE TO ASK

10886
09:47:06,124 --> 09:47:08,126
YOU TO REJECT PARKS HIS PROPOSAL BASED

10887
09:47:08,126 --> 09:47:11,129
ON PROCEDURAL AND SUBSTANTIVE AND FLAWS.

10888
09:47:11,129 --> 09:47:14,990
TO THIS AND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ALL

10889
09:47:14,990 --> 09:47:16,990
DATA

10890
09:47:19,104 --> 09:47:20,720
INCLUDING THE PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS

10891
09:47:20,720 --> 09:47:21,730
OF OUR

10892
09:47:21,730 --> 09:47:22,740
TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HIGHLIGHTING THE

10893
09:47:22,740 --> 09:47:23,750
DEFICIENCIES IN PARK'S'S DATA COLLECTION

10894
09:47:23,750 --> 09:47:25,750
MISSIONS.

10895
09:47:25,770 --> 09:47:26,780
YOU SHOULD READ OUR PETITION WHICH

10896
09:47:26,780 --> 09:47:28,780
REQUEST THAT WE

10897
09:47:28,800 --> 09:47:31,680
GO BACK TO THE JANUARY 2017 CONFIGURATION

10898
09:47:32,840 --> 09:47:34,484
WHICH PARK'S REFERENCED IN

10899
09:47:35,870 --> 09:47:37,870
THEIR PRESENTATION

10900
09:47:40,920 --> 09:47:41,930
WHICH IS ALMOST 3500 SIGNATURES AND WHICH

10901
09:47:41,930 --> 09:47:42,940
CONTINUES TO GROW AND WHICH

10902
09:47:42,940 --> 09:47:44,960
YOU CAN'T IGNORE. YOU SHOULD HEED

10903
09:47:44,960 --> 09:47:46,960
THE WARNINGS

10904
09:47:50,102 --> 09:47:51,103
OF FIRE CHIEF JONES AS TO THE

10905
09:47:51,103 --> 09:47:52,104
HAZARDS OF THE CURRENT PHASE TWO TRAFFIC

10906
09:47:52,104 --> 09:47:53,710
CONFIGURATION. IT IS DEMONSTRATED

10907
09:47:53,710 --> 09:47:54,720
BY CARL BECKER'S

10908
09:47:54,720 --> 09:47:56,740
VIDEO EVIDENCE. WHETHER OR NOT IT

10909
09:47:56,740 --> 09:47:58,760
IS AN OFFICIAL POSITION IT STILL

10910
09:47:58,760 --> 09:47:59,770
WARNS OF DANGEROUS CONDITIONS AND

10911
09:47:59,770 --> 09:48:01,770
SHOULD BE

10912
09:48:01,790 --> 09:48:02,800
TAKEN SERIOUSLY. YOU SHOULD ALSO KEEP

10913
09:48:02,800 --> 09:48:04,800
THE EVIDENCE

10914
09:48:04,820 --> 09:48:05,117
SHOWING THERE IS NO DEMAND FOR RECREATION

10915
09:48:05,117 --> 09:48:07,517
ON THE CLOSED LANES.

10916
09:48:08,120 --> 09:48:10,520
VIEW PAT JOHNSON'S VIDEO

10917
09:48:11,123 --> 09:48:14,126
LOG SHOWING THE CLOSED LANES BEING

10918
09:48:14,126 --> 09:48:16,126
CONSTANTLY EMPTY

10919
09:48:16,128 --> 09:48:17,129
, MONTH AFTER MONTH WHILE TRAFFIC

10920
09:48:17,129 --> 09:48:19,131
BUILDS UP ON THE OTHER

10921
09:48:19,131 --> 09:48:23,331
SIDE OF THE PARKWAY. DURING THE PANDEMIC

10922
09:48:26,138 --> 09:48:27,105
AND SINCE CLOSING THE TWO LANES IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR

10923
09:48:27,105 --> 09:48:29,107
THE CLOSED LANES HAVE NO BIKERS, NO

10924
09:48:29,107 --> 09:48:32,110
JOGGERS, NO ROLLERBLADE OR'S, NO SKATEBOARDERS, NO

10925
09:48:32,110 --> 09:48:35,113
DOG WALKERS, NO BABY STROLLERS, AND

10926
09:48:35,113 --> 09:48:38,116
NO DADS TEACHING THEIR KIDS HOW TO

10927
09:48:38,116 --> 09:48:40,116
RIDE BIKES.

10928
09:48:41,119 --> 09:48:43,119
WITH

10929
09:48:43,121 --> 09:48:44,122
ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUS TEST

10930
09:48:44,122 --> 09:48:45,123
OF FIRE, BIKE LESSONS ARE NOT

10931
09:48:45,123 --> 09:48:47,125
THE HIGHEST AND BEST USED OF LITTLE

10932
09:48:47,125 --> 09:48:50,125
FALLS PARKWAY. DESPITE KYLE SPECULATION,

10933
09:48:52,130 --> 09:48:53,131
NO ONE IN SIGNIFICANT VOLUMES IS USING

10934
09:48:53,131 --> 09:48:54,132
THE CLOSED

10935
09:48:54,132 --> 09:48:56,134
LANES BECAUSE THEY CONNECT TO NOWHERE

10936
09:48:56,134 --> 09:48:58,136
AND WE HAVE SEEN NO DATA TO SHOW THAT THESE

10937
09:48:58,136 --> 09:49:02,107
LANES WILL BE USED IN THE FUTURE.

10938
09:49:02,107 --> 09:49:04,107
IF THESE

10939
09:49:04,109 --> 09:49:05,110
LANES ARE NOT BEING USED NOW, THEY WON'T

10940
09:49:05,110 --> 09:49:08,710
LIKELY BE USED IN THE FUTURE.

10941
09:49:11,116 --> 09:49:13,116
WE

10942
09:49:13,118 --> 09:49:14,119
ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU GO DOWN TO THE SITE

10943
09:49:14,119 --> 09:49:15,120
AND SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT WE

10944
09:49:15,120 --> 09:49:17,122
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU

10945
09:49:17,122 --> 09:49:21,922
CAN'T MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WITHOUT DOING SO.

10946
09:49:26,131 --> 09:49:28,131
FINALLY

10947
09:49:28,133 --> 09:49:29,134
WE ASK YOU TO BE OPEN-MINDED TO OTHER

10948
09:49:29,134 --> 09:49:30,135
ALTERNATIVES THAT

10949
09:49:30,135 --> 09:49:31,136
PARKS HAS DISMISSED OUT OF HAND. IF

10950
09:49:31,136 --> 09:49:32,137
PARKS WANTS FOOD TRUCKS AND PORT-A-POTTIES AND

10951
09:49:32,137 --> 09:49:34,105
GAMES AND TOYS NEAR THE

10952
09:49:34,105 --> 09:49:35,106
TRAIL, THEY CAN FIND OTHER LOCATIONS

10953
09:49:35,106 --> 09:49:36,107
THAT DO NOT COMPROMISE OUR SAFETY. LIKE NEIL

10954
09:49:36,107 --> 09:49:38,109
POTTER PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU SHOULD

10955
09:49:38,109 --> 09:49:42,309
ALSO CONSIDER A WALKING, BIKING BRIDGE ACROSS

10956
09:49:47,118 --> 09:49:49,118
LITTLE

10957
09:49:49,120 --> 09:49:50,121
FALLS PARKWAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY

10958
09:49:50,121 --> 09:49:51,122
SOME BIKERS ARE LOBBYING FOR THE MOST DANGEROUS

10959
09:49:51,122 --> 09:49:53,124
TRAIL CROSSING IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

10960
09:49:53,124 --> 09:49:55,126
THEY SHOULD WANT A BRIDGE AND PARKS SHOULD DO PROPER

10961
09:49:55,126 --> 09:49:56,127
DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT SOLUTION. TO

10962
09:49:56,127 --> 09:49:58,129
CONCLUDE, WE ARE LOOKING TO THE PLANNING BOARD

10963
09:49:58,129 --> 09:49:59,130
TO REJECT PARKS HIS PROPOSAL AND RETURN

10964
09:49:59,130 --> 09:50:02,133
TO THE PARKWAY TO THE PARKWAY TO

10965
09:50:02,133 --> 09:50:04,133
THE CONFIGURATION

10966
09:50:05,170 --> 09:50:06,171
WHICH IS

10967
09:50:06,171 --> 09:50:08,139
THE SAFEST CONFIGURATION THE PARKWAY'S

10968
09:50:08,139 --> 09:50:11,139
EVER HAD. THANK YOU. >> THANK

10969
09:50:11,142 --> 09:50:14,142
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. HOLLY?

10970
09:50:14,145 --> 09:50:16,145
>> YES, THANK YOU.

10971
09:50:20,151 --> 09:50:22,151
MY NAME

10972
09:50:22,153 --> 09:50:23,154
IS DR. HOLLY. I LIVE ONE BLOCK FROM

10973
09:50:23,154 --> 09:50:25,156
THE INTERSECTION OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

10974
09:50:25,156 --> 09:50:26,157
AND RIVER ROAD AND I FULLY SUPPORT

10975
09:50:26,157 --> 09:50:28,157
THE

10976
09:50:29,160 --> 09:50:30,161
LINEAR PARK

10977
09:50:30,161 --> 09:50:32,163
AND PILOT PROJECT. THE LINEAR PARK

10978
09:50:32,163 --> 09:50:34,165
IS A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE LOCATION FOR KIDS TO LEARN

10979
09:50:34,165 --> 09:50:38,365
TO RIDE BIKES GIVEN THE ABSENCE OF

10980
09:50:42,140 --> 09:50:43,141
SIDEWALKS OR PROTECTED BIKE

10981
09:50:43,141 --> 09:50:44,142
LANES ANYWHERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM

10982
09:50:44,142 --> 09:50:45,143
MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE TO DORSET AVENUE.

10983
09:50:45,143 --> 09:50:46,144
THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

10984
09:50:46,144 --> 09:50:47,145
TRAIL IS AT OR ABOVE CAPACITY AND

10985
09:50:47,145 --> 09:50:49,147
NOT A SAFE ACCESS ROAD FOR YOUNG KIDS

10986
09:50:49,147 --> 09:50:51,149
TO LEARN TO RIDE. MY 5 YOUR LEARN

10987
09:50:51,149 --> 09:50:52,150
TO RIDE HIS BIKE DUE TO

10988
09:50:52,150 --> 09:50:54,152
THE OPEN PARKWAYS PROGRAM AND MY TWO-YEAR-OLD

10989
09:50:54,152 --> 09:50:56,152
CONTINUES TO

10990
09:50:57,155 --> 09:50:58,156
USE THE LINEAR PARK TO LEARN

10991
09:50:58,156 --> 09:51:00,158
TO RIDE HIS BIKE. ON THE 12th OF NOVEMBER

10992
09:51:00,158 --> 09:51:02,158
2022 MY TODDLERS JOINED 15

10993
09:51:03,161 --> 09:51:05,163
CHILDREN FOR A PRACTICE SECTION

10994
09:51:05,163 --> 09:51:06,164
AT THE LINEAR PARK TO LEARN HOW TO

10995
09:51:06,164 --> 09:51:07,165
WRITE A PEDAL BIKE.

10996
09:51:07,165 --> 09:51:08,166
IT WAS A PERFECT PITCH FOR THEM TO

10997
09:51:08,166 --> 09:51:09,167
GAIN THE CONFIDENCE THEY NEEDED AND

10998
09:51:09,167 --> 09:51:10,168
THE

10999
09:51:10,168 --> 09:51:12,170
SAFETY OF PROTECTIVE LANES. I ASK

11000
09:51:12,170 --> 09:51:14,570
THAT THE PLANNING BOARD

11001
09:51:15,140 --> 09:51:16,141
PLEASE MAKE THE LINEAR PARK PERMANENT SO

11002
09:51:16,141 --> 09:51:18,143
I MAY BRING MY TWO-YEAR-OLD AND FRIENDS

11003
09:51:18,143 --> 09:51:19,144
FROM NEAR AND FAR TO TEACH ALL

11004
09:51:19,144 --> 09:51:20,145
OF OUR CHILDREN HOW TO RIDE PEDAL

11005
09:51:20,145 --> 09:51:23,745
BIKES. SEVERAL NEIGHBORS AND I RODE

11006
09:51:27,152 --> 09:51:28,153
AND SIGNED A JOINT LETTER WHICH

11007
09:51:28,153 --> 09:51:29,154
WE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD

11008
09:51:29,154 --> 09:51:30,155
THIS PAST TUESDAY. WE APPLAUD THE

11009
09:51:30,155 --> 09:51:31,156
PARK DEPARTMENT

11010
09:51:31,156 --> 09:51:33,556
DATA-DRIVEN EVIDENCE BASED APPROACH

11011
09:51:42,167 --> 09:51:44,169
. IT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS,

11012
09:51:44,169 --> 09:51:45,170
AND DRIVERS ALIKE TO INCREASE ACCESS BY

11013
09:51:45,170 --> 09:51:47,138
FOOT AND BIKE IN A

11014
09:51:47,138 --> 09:51:48,139
SAFE AND EFFICIENT WAY SO AS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC

11015
09:51:48,139 --> 09:51:50,139
VOLUME AND INCREASED

11016
09:51:51,142 --> 09:51:53,142
TRAFFIC FLOW.

11017
09:51:56,147 --> 09:51:57,148
THE LINEAR PARK PREVENTS HUMAN ERROR

11018
09:51:57,148 --> 09:51:58,149
FROM RESULTING IN

11019
09:51:58,149 --> 09:51:59,150
PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FATALITIES

11020
09:51:59,150 --> 09:52:00,151
THROUGH ITS AFFORDABLE PROTECTIVE INFRASTRUCTURE

11021
09:52:00,151 --> 09:52:01,152
IMPROVEMENTS, GOOD TRAFFIC FLOW, AND

11022
09:52:01,152 --> 09:52:03,188
I WILL RESTATE, LESS THAN FOUR MINUTES,

11023
09:52:03,188 --> 09:52:04,189
HIGH PEDESTRIAN USE WOULD INCREASE MORE

11024
09:52:04,189 --> 09:52:05,190
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS

11025
09:52:05,190 --> 09:52:06,191
PROTECTED SIDE PATHS OR LANES WITH

11026
09:52:06,191 --> 09:52:08,591
FLEX POSTS TO EXTEND

11027
09:52:09,194 --> 09:52:11,194
PEDESTRIAN CYCLISTS ACTIVIST

11028
09:52:12,197 --> 09:52:15,197
FROM THE LINEAR PARK TO

11029
09:52:15,200 --> 09:52:18,203
MASS AVENUE. IT BREAKS MY HEART

11030
09:52:18,203 --> 09:52:20,203
WHEN MY KID

11031
09:52:21,172 --> 09:52:24,175
ASKED ME TO RIDE THE BIKE TO THE POOL

11032
09:52:24,175 --> 09:52:26,175
. MY

11033
09:52:26,177 --> 09:52:27,178
TWO TODDLERS AND I WERE WEEKLY USERS

11034
09:52:27,178 --> 09:52:29,178
OF

11035
09:52:30,181 --> 09:52:32,181
THE PANDEMIC

11036
09:52:35,186 --> 09:52:36,187
ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND AND AT LEAST

11037
09:52:36,187 --> 09:52:37,188
EVERY OTHER WEEKEND

11038
09:52:37,188 --> 09:52:39,190
DURING COLDER MONTHS. WITHOUT A PROTECTED

11039
09:52:39,190 --> 09:52:41,192
LANE FROM MASS AVENUE TO DORSETT AVENUE ACCESS

11040
09:52:41,192 --> 09:52:45,392
TO LINEAR PARK IS NOT SAFE ENOUGH

11041
09:52:51,202 --> 09:52:52,203
TO ALLOW THEM TO WRITE ALONG THE

11042
09:52:52,203 --> 09:52:54,172
PARKWAY. RATHER, EITHER DRIVE AND PARK

11043
09:52:54,172 --> 09:52:55,173
AT THE BETHESDA POOL OR RIDE

11044
09:52:55,173 --> 09:52:56,174
MY BIKE ALONG THE PARKWAY WITH MY

11045
09:52:56,174 --> 09:52:57,175
TODDLERS AND THEIR BIKES IN TOW IN

11046
09:52:57,175 --> 09:52:58,176
MY BIKE TRAILER.

11047
09:52:58,176 --> 09:53:00,178
WITHOUT A PROTECTED BIKE LANE, ONE

11048
09:53:00,178 --> 09:53:03,181
OF THOSE WHO SIGNED OUR LETTER SURVIVED

11049
09:53:03,181 --> 09:53:05,181
A PARKWAY

11050
09:53:06,184 --> 09:53:07,185
HIT AND RUN AND WAS

11051
09:53:07,185 --> 09:53:09,187
LEFT UNCONSCIOUS ON THE GROUND. THIS

11052
09:53:09,187 --> 09:53:10,188
WAS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION. THE

11053
09:53:10,188 --> 09:53:12,190
PARKS DEPARTMENT REPORTS NO ACCIDENTS

11054
09:53:12,190 --> 09:53:13,191
AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

11055
09:53:13,191 --> 09:53:14,192
CROSSING SINCE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS

11056
09:53:14,192 --> 09:53:15,193
WERE MADE. CURRENT USE IS SUBSTANTIAL

11057
09:53:15,193 --> 09:53:16,194
AND WOULD ONLY

11058
09:53:16,194 --> 09:53:18,196
INCREASE OR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT NEEDS

11059
09:53:18,196 --> 09:53:20,198
TO INSTALL FLEX POSTS AND WE NEED THE

11060
09:53:20,198 --> 09:53:21,199
PLANNING BOARD TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS

11061
09:53:21,199 --> 09:53:23,201
CONFIGURATION SO THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE

11062
09:53:23,201 --> 09:53:24,202
THAT GOAL. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU

11063
09:53:24,202 --> 09:53:26,202
FOR YOUR

11064
09:53:27,172 --> 09:53:29,172
WELL-TIMED TESTIMONY.

11065
09:53:30,175 --> 09:53:32,175
MR. CARL BECKER?

11066
09:53:39,184 --> 09:53:40,185
SUMNER CIVIC ASSOCIATION, YOU FIVE MINUTES. >> CAN

11067
09:53:40,185 --> 09:53:42,187
I GET THE COMPUTER SCREEN APPEAR?

11068
09:53:42,187 --> 09:53:45,187
>> IT IS UP ON OURS.

11069
09:53:45,190 --> 09:53:47,190
>> YES. >> OKAY.

11070
09:53:50,195 --> 09:53:51,196
CARL BECKER. I LIVED A FEW HOUSES

11071
09:53:51,196 --> 09:53:54,199
FROM THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL AND

11072
09:53:54,199 --> 09:53:57,202
I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE THERE BECAUSE WE

11073
09:53:57,202 --> 09:54:00,171
USE THE PARKS EVERY DAY.

11074
09:54:00,171 --> 09:54:02,571
THE CURRENT TRAIL CROSSING

11075
09:54:03,208 --> 09:54:05,210
IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT

11076
09:54:05,210 --> 09:54:06,211
WAS JUST SIX MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THE MULTI-

11077
09:54:06,211 --> 09:54:08,211
LANE THREAT

11078
09:54:09,214 --> 09:54:11,214
HAS BEEN REINTRODUCED

11079
09:54:12,217 --> 09:54:13,218
AND THIS IS

11080
09:54:13,218 --> 09:54:15,220
A CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT HAS NOT

11081
09:54:15,220 --> 09:54:17,620
BEEN DISCUSSED YET TODAY.

11082
09:54:18,223 --> 09:54:19,224
WHEN

11083
09:54:19,224 --> 09:54:21,226
THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT HAPPENED

11084
09:54:21,226 --> 09:54:23,228
IN 2016 WHEN THE PEDESTRIAN ,

11085
09:54:23,228 --> 09:54:24,229
I'M SORRY, WHEN THE BICYCLIST WAS KILLED,

11086
09:54:24,229 --> 09:54:26,229
HE

11087
09:54:26,231 --> 09:54:27,232
WAS CROSSING FOUR LANES OF ROADWAY,

11088
09:54:27,232 --> 09:54:30,232
TO AND THEN TWO MORE.

11089
09:54:33,238 --> 09:54:34,205
THE ROAD

11090
09:54:34,205 --> 09:54:36,207
I WAS IMPLEMENTED AND IT WAS TOUTED

11091
09:54:36,207 --> 09:54:39,207
AS MAKING THE CRUSH AND

11092
09:54:41,212 --> 09:54:42,213
VISION ZERO COMPLIANT AND THAT WAS A

11093
09:54:42,213 --> 09:54:45,213
BIG DEAL, A MULTI-LANE THREAT

11094
09:54:45,216 --> 09:54:47,216
WAS ELIMINATED

11095
09:54:51,222 --> 09:54:53,224
AND I HAVE A LOT OF

11096
09:54:53,224 --> 09:54:54,225
HISTORICAL CONTEXT" IN MY 25 PAGE POWERPOINT

11097
09:54:54,225 --> 09:54:56,227
PRESENTATION. I'M NOT GOING TO COVER ALL OF

11098
09:54:56,227 --> 09:54:57,228
IT HERE BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET

11099
09:54:57,228 --> 09:54:59,230
WITH YOU ALL AND DISCUSS LATER.

11100
09:54:59,230 --> 09:55:00,231
THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE ROAD DIET.

11101
09:55:00,231 --> 09:55:03,234
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE

11102
09:55:03,234 --> 09:55:05,234
TWO LANES

11103
09:55:06,237 --> 09:55:08,206
AT THE TRAIL CROSSING AND THEN IT WIDENED

11104
09:55:08,206 --> 09:55:09,207
BACK TO FOUR LANES SOUTH OF HILLANDALE

11105
09:55:09,207 --> 09:55:12,210
ROAD AND THEN TWO SIX LANES. NOW WE

11106
09:55:12,210 --> 09:55:15,213
GO FROM TWO LANES TO SIX LANES

11107
09:55:15,213 --> 09:55:17,213
AT RIVER

11108
09:55:17,215 --> 09:55:18,216
ROAD JUST A HALF MILE SOUTH OF HERE.

11109
09:55:18,216 --> 09:55:20,218
IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. THIS

11110
09:55:20,218 --> 09:55:21,219
IS THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION , YOU

11111
09:55:21,219 --> 09:55:24,219
WILL SEE HERE ON THE

11112
09:55:24,222 --> 09:55:26,222
RIGHT SIDE

11113
09:55:27,225 --> 09:55:30,228
, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONLY TWO LANES FROM HILLANDALE

11114
09:55:30,228 --> 09:55:32,628
ROAD TO DORSET AVENUE.

11115
09:55:39,237 --> 09:55:41,206
IN THE DESIGN THAT WAS CIRCULATED IN 2019, ALTERNATIVES A

11116
09:55:41,206 --> 09:55:42,206
AND B, THERE WERE FOUR LANES THERE.

11117
09:55:42,206 --> 09:55:43,208
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A DESIGN THAT

11118
09:55:43,208 --> 09:55:45,210
WAS NEVER EVEN ENGINEERED OR THOUGHT

11119
09:55:45,210 --> 09:55:48,212
ABOUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO YET IT HAS

11120
09:55:48,212 --> 09:55:51,216
HAPPENED ANYWAY. COMPARED TO THE ROAD DIET THE

11121
09:55:51,216 --> 09:55:54,816
CURRENT CONFIGURATION FORCES THE TRAIL USER

11122
09:56:01,259 --> 09:56:02,260
TO CROSS THE FOUR LANES

11123
09:56:02,260 --> 09:56:03,261
AT ONCE INSTEAD OF JUST SIX MONTHS

11124
09:56:03,261 --> 09:56:04,262
AGO HAVING TO CROSS ONLY ONE LANE

11125
09:56:04,262 --> 09:56:05,263
AT A TIME.

11126
09:56:05,263 --> 09:56:06,264
NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK BOTH WAYS WHILE

11127
09:56:06,264 --> 09:56:07,265
YOU ARE CROSSING INSTEAD OF LOOKING

11128
09:56:07,265 --> 09:56:08,266
JUST

11129
09:56:08,266 --> 09:56:10,268
ONE WAY AND YOU CAN NO LONGER STOP

11130
09:56:10,268 --> 09:56:12,668
IN A PROTECTED MEDIAN

11131
09:56:13,271 --> 09:56:14,239
OR REFUGEE

11132
09:56:14,239 --> 09:56:15,239
ISLAND. I'VE A LOT OF DATA IN HERE

11133
09:56:15,239 --> 09:56:16,241
FROM FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS TALKING

11134
09:56:16,241 --> 09:56:18,241
ABOUT

11135
09:56:19,244 --> 09:56:22,244
WHY IT WAS SAFER BEFORE.

11136
09:56:28,219 --> 09:56:30,221
ANDREW AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT A MONTH AGO

11137
09:56:30,221 --> 09:56:31,222
HE SAID, OH, WOW, THAT'S A MULTILANE THREAT WE

11138
09:56:31,222 --> 09:56:32,223
HAVE NOW.

11139
09:56:32,223 --> 09:56:33,224
I HAD NOT HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE BUT

11140
09:56:33,224 --> 09:56:34,225
APPARENTLY USERS ARE ROUTINELY FACING

11141
09:56:34,225 --> 09:56:36,225
MULTILANE FRETS

11142
09:56:37,228 --> 09:56:39,228
NOW BECAUSE

11143
09:56:47,205 --> 09:56:49,207
OF THE BACKUPS. NOT JUST THE NORTHBOUND

11144
09:56:49,207 --> 09:56:51,209
BACKUP WHICH WILL BE SOFTENED WHEN THE RIGHT TURN LANE

11145
09:56:51,209 --> 09:56:52,210
IS REINTRODUCED BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOUTHBOUND

11146
09:56:52,210 --> 09:56:53,211
BACKUPS. WE HAVE ABOUT 30

11147
09:56:53,211 --> 09:56:54,212
MINUTES OF CONSOLIDATED YOUTUBE VIDEOS

11148
09:56:54,212 --> 09:56:55,213
HERE, I SPENT OVER 15 HOURS ON SITE

11149
09:56:55,213 --> 09:56:57,215
DOCUMENTING THIS, RECORDING VIDEOS, I'VE CONSOLIDATED

11150
09:56:57,215 --> 09:56:58,216
AS MUCH AS I COULD. IT TOOK ME 45

11151
09:56:58,216 --> 09:56:59,217
MINUTES

11152
09:56:59,217 --> 09:57:01,219
TO GO THROUGH TWO MINUTE VIDEO. WE

11153
09:57:01,219 --> 09:57:04,219
WILL JUMP INTO THE 1A

11154
09:57:04,222 --> 09:57:05,223
VIDEOS HERE.

11155
09:57:05,223 --> 09:57:07,225
YOU WILL SEE THIS BICYCLIST RUNNING THE

11156
09:57:07,225 --> 09:57:10,228
STOP SIGN, RUNNING THE STOP SIGN

11157
09:57:10,228 --> 09:57:11,229
IS A RECURRING OFFENSE.

11158
09:57:11,229 --> 09:57:13,231
HE WAS UPSET THAT THIS VEHICLE GOT

11159
09:57:13,231 --> 09:57:14,232
SO CLOSE TO HIM. THE

11160
09:57:14,232 --> 09:57:18,432
VEHICLE IS 30 FEET PAST THE STOPPING MARK.

11161
09:57:34,218 --> 09:57:35,219
HERE'S A MULTILANE THREAT.

11162
09:57:35,219 --> 09:57:36,220
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. THE JEEP IS ACCELERATING

11163
09:57:36,220 --> 09:57:37,221
AT THE BICYCLIST STOPPED HALFWAY THROUGH

11164
09:57:37,221 --> 09:57:38,222
THE ROAD. THEY ALMOST

11165
09:57:38,222 --> 09:57:39,223
HAD A COLLISION. I'VE WITNESSED SEVERAL

11166
09:57:39,223 --> 09:57:40,224
OTHER COLLISIONS HERE. HERE'S A RUNNER.

11167
09:57:40,224 --> 09:57:41,225
THIS IS A

11168
09:57:41,225 --> 09:57:42,226
MULTILANE THREAT, RUNNING BEHIND A

11169
09:57:42,226 --> 09:57:43,227
STOPPED VEHICLE, THE VAN, THAT TRUCK

11170
09:57:43,227 --> 09:57:44,228
SHOULDN'T EVEN BE

11171
09:57:44,228 --> 09:57:46,230
ON THE ROAD. LOOK HOW CLOSE HIS BIKER

11172
09:57:46,230 --> 09:57:47,231
GETS, HALFWAY INTO THE ROAD. THIS

11173
09:57:47,231 --> 09:57:49,233
VEHICLE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE ROAD.

11174
09:57:49,233 --> 09:57:50,234
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE

11175
09:57:50,234 --> 09:57:51,235
WHOLE TIME LOOKING AT THIS BUT I'VE

11176
09:57:51,235 --> 09:57:52,236
GOT TONS OF THIS. IT'S EASILY DOCUMENTED

11177
09:57:52,236 --> 09:57:53,237
THAT

11178
09:57:53,237 --> 09:57:54,205
THE CROSSING IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS

11179
09:57:54,205 --> 09:57:55,206
NOW. I HAVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES OF VIDEO

11180
09:57:55,206 --> 09:57:57,206
SHOWING BICYCLIST

11181
09:57:58,209 --> 09:58:00,609
RUNNING THE STOP SIGN

11182
09:58:01,245 --> 09:58:02,246
INSISTENTLY. THERE IS

11183
09:58:02,246 --> 09:58:03,247
ANOTHER PICTURE OF A CYCLIST RUNNING

11184
09:58:03,247 --> 09:58:04,248
THE STOP SIGN. THIS IS A DANGEROUS

11185
09:58:04,248 --> 09:58:05,249
COMPONENT

11186
09:58:05,249 --> 09:58:07,251
TO THIS DESIGN BECAUSE THE BICYCLIST

11187
09:58:07,251 --> 09:58:08,252
WHEN THEY ARE HEADING SOUTH ON

11188
09:58:08,252 --> 09:58:09,253
THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL THEY MAKE A

11189
09:58:09,253 --> 09:58:10,254
QUICK TURN TO THE LEFT WHERE FOR 50

11190
09:58:10,254 --> 09:58:11,255
FEET OR

11191
09:58:11,255 --> 09:58:13,257
SO THEY ARE RUNNING PARALLEL TO CARS

11192
09:58:13,257 --> 09:58:15,257
TRAVELING SOUTH ON

11193
09:58:16,260 --> 09:58:17,261
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE

11194
09:58:17,261 --> 09:58:19,263
YOUR VEHICLE DRIVING SOUTH AND GOT

11195
09:58:19,263 --> 09:58:22,263
A BICYCLE TO YOUR LEFT

11196
09:58:28,239 --> 09:58:30,241
WAS ALSO DRIVING SOUTH AND ALL

11197
09:58:30,241 --> 09:58:31,242
OF A SUDDEN THAT BICYCLE MAKES A REALLY QUICK

11198
09:58:31,242 --> 09:58:33,244
90 DEGREE TURN GOING 15 MILES AN HOUR

11199
09:58:33,244 --> 09:58:34,245
ALL'S ON THE VEHICLE IS STOPPING RIGHT AT

11200
09:58:34,245 --> 09:58:35,246
THE TRAIL CROSSING JUST AS

11201
09:58:35,246 --> 09:58:36,247
THE BICYCLE IS. IS A TERRIBLE DESIGN.

11202
09:58:36,247 --> 09:58:37,248
PREVIOUSLY, THE SOUTHBOUND VEHICLE

11203
09:58:37,248 --> 09:58:39,648
LANE WAS ABOUT 30 FEET

11204
09:58:40,251 --> 09:58:42,251
SOUTH OF THERE

11205
09:58:46,257 --> 09:58:48,259
AND HE GAVE THE BICYCLIST MORE VISIBILITY

11206
09:58:48,259 --> 09:58:49,260
TO THE CAR AND HE GAVE THE CAR MORE VISIBILITY

11207
09:58:49,260 --> 09:58:50,261
TO THE BICYCLIST. YOU DISTANCE AND

11208
09:58:50,261 --> 09:58:52,263
YOU HAVE TIME YOU HAVE MORE SAFETY.

11209
09:58:52,263 --> 09:58:55,266
WE HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THAT AWAY WITH

11210
09:58:55,266 --> 09:58:57,266
THIS CURRENT CONFIGURATION.

11211
09:59:03,241 --> 09:59:04,242
AM UP? >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS

11212
09:59:04,242 --> 09:59:05,243
UP. >> I COULD TALK

11213
09:59:05,243 --> 09:59:07,245
FOR TWO MORE HOURS. I DIDN'T GET THERE

11214
09:59:07,245 --> 09:59:09,247
ANY MY SIDES. HOPEFULLY ALL OF THE TIME TO

11215
09:59:09,247 --> 09:59:10,248
GO TO THE REST OF THESE. MAYBE WE

11216
09:59:10,248 --> 09:59:11,249
CAN MEET LATER. >> THANK YOU.

11217
09:59:11,249 --> 09:59:13,251
>> I SUBMITTED IT TO THE RECORD AS

11218
09:59:13,251 --> 09:59:16,251
WELL. >> AND DAVID CATHERINE, -->>

11219
09:59:16,254 --> 09:59:19,257
DAVID. I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT TO GO FROM

11220
09:59:19,257 --> 09:59:21,259
FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES . MY

11221
09:59:21,259 --> 09:59:23,261
HOUSE IS A FEW YARDS FROM THE INTERSECTION

11222
09:59:23,261 --> 09:59:25,263
OF DORSET AVENUE AND LITTLE FALLS

11223
09:59:25,263 --> 09:59:27,263
PARKWAY

11224
09:59:27,265 --> 09:59:28,266
IN THE TOWN OF SOMERSET. I HAVE A

11225
09:59:28,266 --> 09:59:29,267
FRONT ROW

11226
09:59:29,267 --> 09:59:31,269
SEAT FROM MY HOUSE ON DORSET AVENUE

11227
09:59:31,269 --> 09:59:33,669
TO OBSERVE TRAFFIC ON

11228
09:59:34,238 --> 09:59:35,239
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AND ON

11229
09:59:35,239 --> 09:59:36,240
DORSET AVENUE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC,

11230
09:59:36,240 --> 09:59:37,241
DURING THE PANDEMIC CLOSURES, AND

11231
09:59:37,241 --> 09:59:39,241
DURING THE CURRENT

11232
09:59:40,244 --> 09:59:42,244
ROAD DIET.

11233
09:59:42,246 --> 09:59:43,247
PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, TRAFFIC ON LITTLE

11234
09:59:43,247 --> 09:59:45,247
FALLS PARKWAY FLOWED

11235
09:59:45,249 --> 09:59:46,250
SMOOTHLY BUT AT HIGH SPEEDS AND DORSET

11236
09:59:46,250 --> 09:59:49,253
AVENUE HAD ITS USUAL HIGH-LEVEL OF CRUST

11237
09:59:49,253 --> 09:59:51,253
OR TRAFFIC.

11238
09:59:52,256 --> 09:59:54,258
UNDER THE CURRENT ROAD DIET, I

11239
09:59:54,258 --> 09:59:55,259
HAVE NOT OBSERVED ANY CHANGE OR INCREASE IN

11240
09:59:55,259 --> 09:59:57,659
TRAFFIC ON LITTLE FALLS

11241
09:59:58,296 --> 10:00:00,296
PARKWAY

11242
10:00:01,299 --> 10:00:02,300
OR DORSET AVENUE FROM

11243
10:00:02,300 --> 10:00:04,302
PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS. NOR HAVE I WITNESSED

11244
10:00:04,302 --> 10:00:05,303
ANY INCREASE TRAFFIC OR TRAFFIC TIEUPS ON LITTLE FALLS

11245
10:00:05,303 --> 10:00:07,271
PARKWAY. TRAFFIC DATA PRESENTED BY

11246
10:00:07,271 --> 10:00:08,272
PARKS

11247
10:00:08,272 --> 10:00:10,274
SUPPORTS AND CONFIRMS MY OBSERVATIONS

11248
10:00:10,274 --> 10:00:12,674
ABOUT TRAFFIC. THE CURRENT

11249
10:00:13,277 --> 10:00:15,277
TWO LANE CONFIGURATION

11250
10:00:16,280 --> 10:00:17,281
A

11251
10:00:17,281 --> 10:00:18,282
SAFER AUTOMOBILES, PEDESTRIANS, AND

11252
10:00:18,282 --> 10:00:19,283
BICYCLES. THE AVERAGE SPEED OF AUTOMOBILE

11253
10:00:19,283 --> 10:00:21,283
TRAFFIC IS

11254
10:00:27,291 --> 10:00:28,292
LOWER. LATE-NIGHT DRAG RACES ARE THING

11255
10:00:28,292 --> 10:00:30,294
OF THE PAST. TRAFFIC FLOW SMOOTHLY, AT

11256
10:00:30,294 --> 10:00:31,295
LEAST AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT DID

11257
10:00:31,295 --> 10:00:34,298
PRE-PANDEMIC. I USE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

11258
10:00:34,298 --> 10:00:36,300
BY CAR MANY TIMES A WEEK TO GET TO BETHESDA AND

11259
10:00:36,300 --> 10:00:37,301
POINTS NORTH AND I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY

11260
10:00:37,301 --> 10:00:39,301
DELAYS OR TRAFFIC.

11261
10:00:40,304 --> 10:00:42,273
A TWO LANE ROAD

11262
10:00:42,273 --> 10:00:43,274
IS EASIER TO CROSS AS A PEDESTRIAN

11263
10:00:43,274 --> 10:00:46,277
OR CYCLIST THAN THE CLOSE SECTION OF

11264
10:00:46,277 --> 10:00:48,277
THE PARKWAY

11265
10:00:51,282 --> 10:00:52,283
AND IT PROVIDES A SAFE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND

11266
10:00:52,283 --> 10:00:54,285
BICYCLISTS. UNLIKE PREVIOUS TESTIMONY, I

11267
10:00:54,285 --> 10:00:55,286
WALK AND BIKE AT THE CLOSE SECTION

11268
10:00:55,286 --> 10:00:57,288
OF THE PARK WEIGHT FREQUENTLY

11269
10:00:57,288 --> 10:00:58,289
AND I SEE OTHER FOLKS ON THAT ALSO.

11270
10:00:58,289 --> 10:01:00,289
IN REGARDS

11271
10:01:01,292 --> 10:01:04,292
TO THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

11272
10:01:04,295 --> 10:01:07,298
AT LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY, I USES CROSSING

11273
10:01:07,298 --> 10:01:09,300
FREQUENTLY. I FOOT AND BY

11274
10:01:09,300 --> 10:01:13,500
BICYCLE AND I HAVE NEVER FELT UNSAFE.

11275
10:01:16,274 --> 10:01:17,275
I BELIEVE THE TWO LANE

11276
10:01:17,275 --> 10:01:19,277
CONFIGURATION FROM THE CROSSING IS

11277
10:01:19,277 --> 10:01:21,279
SAFER BECAUSE TRAIL USERS CAN SEE BOTH LANES OF TRAFFIC

11278
10:01:21,279 --> 10:01:22,280
AT THE SAME TIME PLUS DRIVERS HAVE A

11279
10:01:22,280 --> 10:01:24,282
VISUAL CLUE THAT THEY NEED TO

11280
10:01:24,282 --> 10:01:25,283
STOP IF THE OTHER LANE IS STOP FOR

11281
10:01:25,283 --> 10:01:27,283
TRAIL USER.

11282
10:01:28,286 --> 10:01:29,287
MY SUPPORT OF THE

11283
10:01:29,287 --> 10:01:30,288
CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS SIGNIFICANT

11284
10:01:30,288 --> 10:01:31,289
BECAUSE I TESTIFIED BEFORE THE PLANNING

11285
10:01:31,289 --> 10:01:33,291
BOARD IN THE PAST

11286
10:01:33,291 --> 10:01:34,292
ARGUING FOR A SHIFT OF THE CAPITAL

11287
10:01:34,292 --> 10:01:37,295
CRESCENT TRAIL TO A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION

11288
10:01:37,295 --> 10:01:40,298
AT ARLINGTON ROAD BECAUSE OF MY SAFETY CONCERNS.

11289
10:01:40,298 --> 10:01:43,298
I STILL SUPPORT A SHIFT

11290
10:01:46,304 --> 10:01:47,271
TO THAT INTERSECTION AND NOW BELIEVE THE TWO

11291
10:01:47,271 --> 10:01:48,272
LANE CONFIGURATION IS SUFFICIENTLY

11292
10:01:48,272 --> 10:01:49,273
SAFE. PARKS DATA SHOWS LOWER AVERAGE

11293
10:01:49,273 --> 10:01:51,275
SPEED AND NO ACCIDENTS THE CROSSING FOR

11294
10:01:51,275 --> 10:01:52,276
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I'M FULLY

11295
10:01:52,276 --> 10:01:54,278
IN SUPPORT OF THE ADDITION

11296
10:01:54,278 --> 10:01:55,279
OF NEW GREEN SPACES THAT WILL BE CREATED

11297
10:01:55,279 --> 10:01:57,315
AND THE NEXT PHASE OF

11298
10:01:57,315 --> 10:01:58,316
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. WE LIVE IN A

11299
10:01:58,316 --> 10:02:01,316
DEEPLY DENSE PART OF MONTGOMERY

11300
10:02:01,319 --> 10:02:04,319
COUNTY AND WE NEED TO

11301
10:02:04,322 --> 10:02:06,324
REMOVE IMPERVIOUS SERVICES. I

11302
10:02:06,324 --> 10:02:08,326
URGE IN THE NEXT PHASE OF LITTLE FALLS

11303
10:02:08,326 --> 10:02:10,326
PARKWAY WE WILL

11304
10:02:11,329 --> 10:02:13,329
REMOVE

11305
10:02:14,332 --> 10:02:16,732
WHICH WILL HELP LITTLE

11306
10:02:17,335 --> 10:02:19,335
FALLS WATERSHED

11307
10:02:19,337 --> 10:02:20,338
WHICH WILL HELP THE RIVER IN THE CHESAPEAKE

11308
10:02:20,338 --> 10:02:21,305
BAY. >>

11309
10:02:21,305 --> 10:02:23,307
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

11310
10:02:23,307 --> 10:02:25,707
THAT CONCLUDES THIS PANEL.

11311
10:02:26,310 --> 10:02:29,310
CAN I HAVE LEANNE, JOHN,

11312
10:02:29,313 --> 10:02:31,313
MALCOLM,

11313
10:02:32,316 --> 10:02:34,316
DAVID FOREMAN,

11314
10:02:35,319 --> 10:02:37,319
AND CHARLOTTE STEWART.

11315
10:02:47,331 --> 10:02:49,331
MISS

11316
10:02:50,334 --> 10:02:52,734
TOBIAS GETS FIVE MINUTES.

11317
10:02:59,310 --> 10:03:01,310
>> I'M LEANNE TOBIAS,

11318
10:03:02,313 --> 10:03:05,313
BOARD MEMBER OF THE SPRINGFIELD

11319
10:03:05,316 --> 10:03:07,716
CIVIC ASSOCIATION WHICH REPRESENTS

11320
10:03:08,319 --> 10:03:09,320
OVER 650 FAMILIES

11321
10:03:09,320 --> 10:03:11,322
IN SPRINGFIELD, BETHESDA. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

11322
10:03:11,322 --> 10:03:13,322
IS ALSO HOME

11323
10:03:14,325 --> 10:03:16,725
TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

11324
10:03:17,328 --> 10:03:18,329
SCA SUPPORTS ADDITIONAL

11325
10:03:18,329 --> 10:03:20,331
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR CAPITAL CRESCENT

11326
10:03:20,331 --> 10:03:22,331
TRAIL

11327
10:03:23,334 --> 10:03:26,334
AS IT CROSSES LITTLE FALLS

11328
10:03:26,337 --> 10:03:28,305
PARKWAY HOWEVER, WE ALSO ASK

11329
10:03:28,305 --> 10:03:29,306
THAT LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY BE IMMEDIATELY

11330
10:03:29,306 --> 10:03:31,306
RESTORED TO

11331
10:03:31,308 --> 10:03:34,908
TWO LANES WITH THE CENTRAL MEDIAN.

11332
10:03:35,312 --> 10:03:37,314
LONGER-TERM, WE SUPPORT REINSTATING

11333
10:03:37,314 --> 10:03:38,315
FOUR LANES BETWEEN HILLANDALE ROAD

11334
10:03:38,315 --> 10:03:40,315
AND

11335
10:03:41,318 --> 10:03:43,318
DORSET AVENUE.

11336
10:03:43,320 --> 10:03:44,321
WE TAKE THIS POSITION BECAUSE LITTLE

11337
10:03:44,321 --> 10:03:46,321
FALLS PARKWAY

11338
10:03:46,323 --> 10:03:49,923
IS HEAVILY USED BY OUR COMMUNITY.

11339
10:03:52,329 --> 10:03:53,330
IT IS SPRINGFIELD'S MAJOR EAST, WEST ROAD

11340
10:03:53,330 --> 10:03:54,331
CONNECTION

11341
10:03:54,331 --> 10:03:56,367
TO DOWNTOWN BETHESDA. OUR POSITION

11342
10:03:56,367 --> 10:03:58,369
WAS DEVELOPED WITH THE HELP

11343
10:03:58,369 --> 10:04:01,969
OF A NEW COMMUNITY SURVEY, UNLIKE

11344
10:04:02,339 --> 10:04:05,342
PARKS WHICH YOU HAD TO SYSTEMATICALLY

11345
10:04:05,342 --> 10:04:07,342
CONSULT AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS.

11346
10:04:09,346 --> 10:04:11,348
THE 631 PERSON SURVEY INCLUDES RESIDENCE

11347
10:04:11,348 --> 10:04:13,348
FROM SIX NEIGHBORHOODS

11348
10:04:13,350 --> 10:04:14,351
SURROUNDING LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY ,

11349
10:04:14,351 --> 10:04:16,351
INCLUDING SPRINGFIELD.

11350
10:04:17,354 --> 10:04:19,354
ALMOST 80%

11351
10:04:20,357 --> 10:04:22,357
OF RESPONDENTS OPPOSE

11352
10:04:23,360 --> 10:04:25,360
THE CURRENT

11353
10:04:25,362 --> 10:04:26,363
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY CONFIGURATION IN

11354
10:04:26,363 --> 10:04:28,763
THE PERMANENT LANE CLOSURES.

11355
10:04:29,366 --> 10:04:32,366
SOME 84% BELIEVE THAT MONTGOMERY PARKS

11356
10:04:32,369 --> 10:04:34,769
HAS NOT ADEQUATELY CONSULTED

11357
10:04:35,339 --> 10:04:37,339
WITH RESIDENTS , UNDER 20%

11358
10:04:38,342 --> 10:04:40,344
SUPPORT THE LINEAR PARK.

11359
10:04:40,344 --> 10:04:41,345
THE SURVEY RESULTS ARE ACCURATE. WITHIN

11360
10:04:41,345 --> 10:04:43,345
THREE

11361
10:04:44,348 --> 10:04:46,348
PERCENTAGE POINT

11362
10:04:47,351 --> 10:04:50,351
WITH A 95% LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.

11363
10:04:50,354 --> 10:04:52,354
SCA OPPOSES THE

11364
10:04:52,356 --> 10:04:53,357
PARKS PROPOSAL FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. THE

11365
10:04:53,357 --> 10:04:55,357
CURRENT CONFIGURATION

11366
10:04:56,360 --> 10:04:59,360
OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IS

11367
10:04:59,363 --> 10:05:01,365
UNSAFE. THERE IS NOWHERE TO

11368
10:05:01,365 --> 10:05:02,366
PULL OVER FOR EMERGENCIES. THE PUBLIC RECORD

11369
10:05:02,366 --> 10:05:04,366
INCLUDES THE

11370
10:05:05,369 --> 10:05:07,371
HERRING ACCOUNT OF A HEAD INJURY VICTIM

11371
10:05:07,371 --> 10:05:10,971
WHOSE AMBULANCE WAS DELAYED MULTIPLE TIMES

11372
10:05:11,342 --> 10:05:13,344
ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

11373
10:05:13,344 --> 10:05:14,345
BECAUSE TRAFFIC COULD NOT PULL OVER.

11374
10:05:14,345 --> 10:05:16,345
THE

11375
10:05:17,348 --> 10:05:18,349
NEW CONFIGURATION

11376
10:05:18,349 --> 10:05:20,351
MAKES LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY DIFFICULT

11377
10:05:20,351 --> 10:05:22,351
TO NAVIGATE SAFELY .

11378
10:05:26,357 --> 10:05:27,358
MONTGOMERY COUNTY FIRE CHIEF ADAM

11379
10:05:27,358 --> 10:05:29,360
JONES WARNS OF CONSTANTLY CHANGING

11380
10:05:29,360 --> 10:05:31,328
BLIND SPOTS

11381
10:05:31,328 --> 10:05:34,928
THAT AFFECT MOTORISTS, CYCLIST, AND PEDESTRIANS.

11382
10:05:35,332 --> 10:05:37,334
WE ASK THAT THE PLANNING BOARD REVIEW THE

11383
10:05:37,334 --> 10:05:41,305
MENDING LETTERS IN THE RECORD REPORTING COLLISIONS.

11384
10:05:41,305 --> 10:05:44,305
SECOND, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT

11385
10:05:44,308 --> 10:05:45,309
THE ACCURACY

11386
10:05:45,309 --> 10:05:47,311
OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND URGENT

11387
10:05:47,311 --> 10:05:49,311
ADDITIONAL STUDIES.

11388
10:05:49,313 --> 10:05:52,313
THE PARKS ANALYSIS APPEARS INCONSISTENT

11389
10:05:52,316 --> 10:05:53,317
WITH STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION DATA

11390
10:05:53,317 --> 10:05:55,317
FOR LITTLE FALLS

11391
10:05:56,353 --> 10:05:58,753
PARKWAY , RELIES HEAVILY ON

11392
10:05:59,356 --> 10:06:02,359
PANDEMIC ERA TRAFFIC DATA, AND ADDRESSES

11393
10:06:02,359 --> 10:06:05,359
NEITHER EMERGING POST-PANDEMIC TRAFFIC PATTERNS

11394
10:06:05,362 --> 10:06:07,362
NOR THE

11395
10:06:08,365 --> 10:06:10,365
8.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET

11396
10:06:11,368 --> 10:06:14,338
OF DEVELOPMENT PENDING IN DOWNTOWN

11397
10:06:14,338 --> 10:06:16,338
BETHESDA , FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS

11398
10:06:17,341 --> 10:06:19,341
AND WEST BARD.

11399
10:06:23,347 --> 10:06:25,347
3 MILLION SQUARE

11400
10:06:26,350 --> 10:06:28,350
FEET ZONED.

11401
10:06:29,353 --> 10:06:31,353
FIVE 2050 HAS DESIGNATED

11402
10:06:31,355 --> 10:06:32,356
LOWER RIVER ROAD FROM THE D.C. LINE

11403
10:06:32,356 --> 10:06:34,358
TO THE BELTWAY AS A

11404
10:06:34,358 --> 10:06:35,359
GROWTH CORRIDOR WHICH WILL ADD ADDITIONAL

11405
10:06:35,359 --> 10:06:37,359
DENSE DEVELOPMENT IN

11406
10:06:38,362 --> 10:06:41,362
THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF LITTLE

11407
10:06:41,365 --> 10:06:43,365
FALLS PARKWAY.

11408
10:06:44,368 --> 10:06:45,369
CUTTING LITTLE FALLS

11409
10:06:45,369 --> 10:06:47,371
PARKWAY TO FOUR TO TWO LANES UNDER

11410
10:06:47,371 --> 10:06:50,341
THESE CONDITIONS WILL INCREASE CONGESTION

11411
10:06:50,341 --> 10:06:53,344
ON WISCONSIN AVENUE, RIVER ROAD, AND OTHER MAJOR

11412
10:06:53,344 --> 10:06:55,344
ARTERIES. ENCOURAGE CONSUMERS

11413
10:06:55,346 --> 10:06:56,347
TO SHOP IN D.C. AVOIDING BETHESDA

11414
10:06:56,347 --> 10:06:58,347
AND

11415
10:06:58,349 --> 10:07:01,349
INCREASE NEIGHBORHOOD CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

11416
10:07:01,352 --> 10:07:02,353
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT

11417
10:07:02,353 --> 10:07:04,353
I

11418
10:07:05,356 --> 10:07:07,756
BELIEVE IS A MISPERCEPTION

11419
10:07:08,359 --> 10:07:11,362
CREATED IN THE TESTIMONY TODAY BY PARKS.

11420
10:07:11,362 --> 10:07:14,362
WEST BARD AND SPRINGFIELD ARE

11421
10:07:14,365 --> 10:07:17,365
IN FACT HEAVILY AUTO DEPENDING,

11422
10:07:17,368 --> 10:07:19,768
ROUGHLY 70% OF OUR RESIDENTS

11423
10:07:20,371 --> 10:07:23,340
UTILIZE AUTOS FOR DAILY ERRANDS AND

11424
10:07:23,340 --> 10:07:26,343
FOR COMMUTING TO AND FROM WORK. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

11425
10:07:26,343 --> 10:07:29,343
IS 2.2 MILES FROM THE FRIENDSHIP

11426
10:07:29,346 --> 10:07:31,746
HEIGHTS METRO AND 3.3 MILES

11427
10:07:32,349 --> 10:07:35,349
FROM THE BETHESDA METRO CENTER,

11428
10:07:35,352 --> 10:07:37,752
SEPARATED FROM THOSE METRO

11429
10:07:38,355 --> 10:07:40,755
STATIONS BY MAJOR ROADWAYS.

11430
10:07:41,358 --> 10:07:44,361
OUR AREA IS SERVED BY ONE BUS LINE THAT

11431
10:07:44,361 --> 10:07:46,361
RUNS 30

11432
10:07:46,363 --> 10:07:47,364
TO 45 MINUTE INTERVALS DURING WEEKDAY RUSH

11433
10:07:47,364 --> 10:07:49,364
HOURS ONLY. IN

11434
10:07:50,367 --> 10:07:52,767
OTHER WORDS, LESS FREQUENTLY

11435
10:07:53,370 --> 10:07:55,370
OUTSIDE WEEKDAY RUSH

11436
10:07:56,373 --> 10:07:58,373
HOURS. FINALLY,

11437
10:07:59,376 --> 10:08:01,378
THE 2016 WEST BARD SECTOR PLAN

11438
10:08:01,378 --> 10:08:03,380
RECOMMENDED A SHUTTLE BUS TO METRO

11439
10:08:03,380 --> 10:08:06,380
BUT THAT IS NO LONGER

11440
10:08:06,383 --> 10:08:08,383
BEING OFFERED. >>

11441
10:08:08,385 --> 10:08:11,985
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY.

11442
10:08:12,389 --> 10:08:14,389
JON STEWART?

11443
10:08:15,392 --> 10:08:17,392
>> YES, THANK YOU.

11444
10:08:18,395 --> 10:08:21,398
MY NAME IS JON STEWART. I LIVE

11445
10:08:21,398 --> 10:08:23,398
ON DORSET

11446
10:08:23,400 --> 10:08:24,401
UP THE HILL FROM DAVID. I HAVE LIVED WITHIN

11447
10:08:24,401 --> 10:08:25,402
A LONG

11448
10:08:25,402 --> 10:08:27,404
BLOCK OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY FOR

11449
10:08:27,404 --> 10:08:28,372
MORE THAN 40 YEARS. I

11450
10:08:28,372 --> 10:08:30,374
HAVE WALKED THE TRAILS, HAVE RIDDEN

11451
10:08:30,374 --> 10:08:32,374
MY BIKE

11452
10:08:33,377 --> 10:08:35,777
, ALTHOUGH, I WISH PARKS

11453
10:08:36,380 --> 10:08:37,381
WOULD MAINTAIN LITTLE FALLS

11454
10:08:37,381 --> 10:08:39,383
TRAIL A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE IT IS HARD

11455
10:08:39,383 --> 10:08:42,386
ON THE SEATS. I'VE TAUGHT MY

11456
10:08:42,386 --> 10:08:43,387
OWN KIDS TO RIDE THEIR

11457
10:08:43,387 --> 10:08:44,388
BIKES THERE AND THEY HAVE TAUGHT THEIR

11458
10:08:44,388 --> 10:08:45,389
GRANDCHILDREN TO RIDE BIKES WITHOUT

11459
10:08:45,389 --> 10:08:47,389
USING LITTLE FALLS

11460
10:08:48,392 --> 10:08:51,392
PARKWAY. I'M NOT GOING TO

11461
10:08:51,395 --> 10:08:53,397
READ WHAT I'VE WRITTEN BECAUSE

11462
10:08:53,397 --> 10:08:54,398
A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN SAID BUT I WANT TO

11463
10:08:54,398 --> 10:08:55,399
GO

11464
10:08:55,399 --> 10:08:57,401
BACK TO WHAT JEFFREY SAID. THE WAY

11465
10:08:57,401 --> 10:08:58,402
THIS QUESTION AROSE

11466
10:08:58,402 --> 10:09:00,404
IS THAT PARKS UNILATERALLY DECIDED

11467
10:09:00,404 --> 10:09:02,804
TO CLOSE THE ROADWAY

11468
10:09:03,374 --> 10:09:05,376
AND THEN IT BRINGS

11469
10:09:05,376 --> 10:09:09,576
THIS QUESTION TO YOU, THE PLANNING BOARD,

11470
10:09:12,383 --> 10:09:13,384
ABOUT WHETHER, BASED ON THE DATA THAT

11471
10:09:13,384 --> 10:09:15,386
IS COLLECTED, AND THERE IS A LOT OF

11472
10:09:15,386 --> 10:09:17,388
DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER IT IS ACCURATE OR MEANINGFUL, WHETHER THE CLOSURE IS

11473
10:09:17,388 --> 10:09:18,389
TOLERABLE. WHETHER IT IS SO BAD THAT

11474
10:09:18,389 --> 10:09:20,391
YOU NEED TO CHANGE

11475
10:09:20,391 --> 10:09:21,392
IT BACK. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AS A

11476
10:09:21,392 --> 10:09:23,392
CITIZEN AND

11477
10:09:23,394 --> 10:09:28,194
AS A TAXPAYER, THIS WAS A PLANNING QUESTION.

11478
10:09:28,399 --> 10:09:30,401
SHOULD A ROADWAY THAT IS BEEN USED

11479
10:09:30,401 --> 10:09:32,401
FOR DECADES

11480
10:09:36,373 --> 10:09:37,374
, AND IS UNIQUE, IT IS AN ARTERY THAT

11481
10:09:37,374 --> 10:09:38,375
IS FOUR LANES DIVIDED HIGHWAY THROUGH

11482
10:09:38,375 --> 10:09:39,376
BEAUTIFUL PARKLAND, SHOULD IT BE CLOSED

11483
10:09:39,376 --> 10:09:40,377
OR NOT GIVEN

11484
10:09:40,377 --> 10:09:42,379
THE INTERESTS OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY?

11485
10:09:42,379 --> 10:09:44,379
ESPECIALLY GIVEN

11486
10:09:44,381 --> 10:09:47,981
THE COMING DEVELOPMENT. AND, SO, THE

11487
10:09:48,385 --> 10:09:51,388
QUESTION --AND TO LEARN NOW THAT

11488
10:09:51,388 --> 10:09:53,388
PARKS SAYS,

11489
10:09:57,428 --> 10:09:58,429
THE REASON WE ASKED YOU FOR

11490
10:09:58,429 --> 10:10:00,431
THIS IS BECAUSE OF A LINEAR PARK BUT

11491
10:10:00,431 --> 10:10:01,432
WE ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU

11492
10:10:01,432 --> 10:10:03,434
WHAT THAT IS. WE WANT YOU TO PERMANENTLY

11493
10:10:03,434 --> 10:10:05,436
CHANGE THE ROADWAY SO THAT WE

11494
10:10:05,436 --> 10:10:06,437
CAN TRY SOME THINGS OUT AND SEE WHETHER

11495
10:10:06,437 --> 10:10:08,405
PEOPLE WILL LIKE A PARK. THERE OUGHT

11496
10:10:08,405 --> 10:10:09,406
TO BE AN EVALUATION OF THE CONSEQUENCES

11497
10:10:09,406 --> 10:10:11,806
OF THE REMOVAL OF

11498
10:10:12,409 --> 10:10:14,409
THE ROADWAY

11499
10:10:14,411 --> 10:10:15,412
VERSUS THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS SO THAT

11500
10:10:15,412 --> 10:10:16,413
WE CAN

11501
10:10:16,413 --> 10:10:18,415
DECIDE WHETHER IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST

11502
10:10:18,415 --> 10:10:20,415
TO DO THIS.

11503
10:10:21,418 --> 10:10:24,421
ON THE NEEDS SIDE, I FIND IT IRRATIONAL,

11504
10:10:24,421 --> 10:10:26,421
EXTRAORDINARILY IRRATIONAL

11505
10:10:27,424 --> 10:10:28,425
TO

11506
10:10:28,425 --> 10:10:30,427
BUILD A THIRD A LINEAR PARK BETWEEN TWO

11507
10:10:30,427 --> 10:10:31,428
LINEAR PARKS THAT WORK VERY WELL. THEY

11508
10:10:31,428 --> 10:10:33,430
BOTH FIT THE DEFINITION OF LINEAR

11509
10:10:33,430 --> 10:10:34,431
PARKS. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ALL OF

11510
10:10:34,431 --> 10:10:36,433
THE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THEY USE THAT

11511
10:10:36,433 --> 10:10:38,433
AREA, WHY NOT?

11512
10:10:41,405 --> 10:10:42,406
BUT THEY ARE NOT BEING ASKED OF THE

11513
10:10:42,406 --> 10:10:45,406
QUESTION, ESPECIALLY IN THESE LETTERS

11514
10:10:45,409 --> 10:10:47,411
THAT YOU HAVE PILES OF, WHY DIDN'T

11515
10:10:47,411 --> 10:10:48,412
YOU USE THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL OR

11516
10:10:48,412 --> 10:10:50,812
THE LITTLE FALLS TRAIL?

11517
10:11:00,424 --> 10:11:01,425
YESTERDAY I SAW LOTS AND LOTS

11518
10:11:01,425 --> 10:11:02,426
OF PEOPLE GOING DOWN CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

11519
10:11:02,426 --> 10:11:03,427
AND NOBODY TURNING DOWN THIS ROAD

11520
10:11:03,427 --> 10:11:04,428
TO NOWHERE

11521
10:11:04,428 --> 10:11:05,429
WHICH JUST CONNECTS WITH BOTH LITTLE

11522
10:11:05,429 --> 10:11:06,430
FALLS TRAIL AND CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

11523
10:11:06,430 --> 10:11:07,431
AT THE

11524
10:11:07,431 --> 10:11:09,433
TOP AND THE BOTTOM. THERE IS NO PURPOSE

11525
10:11:09,433 --> 10:11:11,433
FOR IT.

11526
10:11:14,438 --> 10:11:15,405
I WAS THE PERSON IN THE AMBULANCE

11527
10:11:15,405 --> 10:11:17,405
ACTUALLY AND

11528
10:11:17,407 --> 10:11:18,408
I HAD NEVER BEEN IN AN AMBULANCE BEFORE AND

11529
10:11:18,408 --> 10:11:19,409
IT WAS SHOCKING TO ME THAT

11530
10:11:19,409 --> 10:11:20,410
THE AMBULANCE CAME TO A STOP SEVERAL

11531
10:11:20,410 --> 10:11:21,411
TIMES AFTER ZOOMING THROUGH OTHER

11532
10:11:21,411 --> 10:11:23,413
PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY

11533
10:11:23,413 --> 10:11:24,414
BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLACE TO TURN

11534
10:11:24,414 --> 10:11:25,415
AND WE NEED A STUDY TO CONFIRM WHETHER

11535
10:11:25,415 --> 10:11:27,417
THAT IS ADEQUATE. THANK YOU. >> THANK

11536
10:11:27,417 --> 10:11:30,420
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. SORRY YOU WERE IN

11537
10:11:30,420 --> 10:11:32,420
AN AMBULANCE. MALCOLM? >>

11538
10:11:36,426 --> 10:11:37,427
MY NAME

11539
10:11:37,427 --> 10:11:39,429
IS MALCOLM. I'VE LIVED IN CHEVY CHASE

11540
10:11:39,429 --> 10:11:40,430
FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND I THANK YOU

11541
10:11:40,430 --> 10:11:42,432
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. WHEN

11542
10:11:42,432 --> 10:11:44,434
I SPOKE WITH THE SPARC STAFF ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES

11543
10:11:44,434 --> 10:11:45,435
TO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY I ASKED A

11544
10:11:45,435 --> 10:11:48,405
QUESTION I ALWAYS ASK WHEN THE

11545
10:11:48,405 --> 10:11:50,407
PROPOSALS PUT ON THE TABLE. WHAT IS

11546
10:11:50,407 --> 10:11:51,441
A PROBLEM YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLVE?

11547
10:11:51,441 --> 10:11:54,441
THEIR ANSWER WAS, THERE IS

11548
10:11:54,444 --> 10:11:56,444
NO PROBLEM.

11549
10:11:59,449 --> 10:12:00,450
I SAID, WELL, WHY ARE YOU PROPOSING

11550
10:12:00,450 --> 10:12:01,451
THESE CHANGES? THEY

11551
10:12:01,451 --> 10:12:02,452
SAID BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE

11552
10:12:02,452 --> 10:12:03,453
TO SEE ADDITIONAL PARK AREAS. WELL,

11553
10:12:03,453 --> 10:12:05,853
I'M A LOVER OF

11554
10:12:06,456 --> 10:12:09,456
PARKS AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL

11555
10:12:09,459 --> 10:12:12,462
THAT WE ARE ALREADY BLESSED WITH AN

11556
10:12:12,462 --> 10:12:14,464
ABUNDANCE OF THEM IN OUR AREA. AND WE

11557
10:12:14,464 --> 10:12:18,468
HAVE THE CRESCENT TRAIL. IT IS A TREASURE.

11558
10:12:18,468 --> 10:12:21,438
I ENJOY IT ALMOST EVERY DAY.

11559
10:12:21,438 --> 10:12:24,441
THE PROPOSAL TO ADD A VERY

11560
10:12:24,441 --> 10:12:27,444
SHORT STRIP OF NARROW PARKLAND ALONG

11561
10:12:27,444 --> 10:12:30,444
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY MAKES ABSOLUTELY

11562
10:12:30,447 --> 10:12:32,447
NO SENSE.

11563
10:12:36,453 --> 10:12:40,653
IT WOULD NOT MAKE A MATERIAL DIFFERENCE.

11564
10:12:41,458 --> 10:12:42,459
DURING THE COVID SHUTDOWN, THE NUMBER OF

11565
10:12:42,459 --> 10:12:45,459
PEOPLE WALKING IN THE PARKWAY

11566
10:12:45,462 --> 10:12:46,463
WAS MINIMAL AND IT IS EVEN LESS TODAY AS POINTED OUT

11567
10:12:46,463 --> 10:12:48,465
IN ANOTHER PRESENTATION. WHAT WOULD

11568
10:12:48,465 --> 10:12:50,865
MAKE SENSE IS TO

11569
10:12:56,440 --> 10:12:57,441
IMPROVE THE EXISTING LOVELY PARKLAND

11570
10:12:57,441 --> 10:12:58,442
ALONG THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL AND THE

11571
10:12:58,442 --> 10:13:00,444
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY BY DEVELOPING

11572
10:13:00,444 --> 10:13:02,446
HIKING TRAILS AND PATHS AND ADDING SEATING IN

11573
10:13:02,446 --> 10:13:03,447
SELECTED AREAS. INSTEAD OF SOLVING

11574
10:13:03,447 --> 10:13:05,447
A NONEXISTENT PROBLEM,

11575
10:13:06,450 --> 10:13:08,450
EXCUSE ME.

11576
10:13:09,453 --> 10:13:11,453
THE PROPOSED CHANGES

11577
10:13:11,455 --> 10:13:15,459
CREATE A SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARD. THE TWO

11578
10:13:15,459 --> 10:13:18,462
TRAFFIC LANES THAT ARE RUNNING CONTIGUOUS

11579
10:13:18,462 --> 10:13:22,662
IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS FOR THOSE CROSSING

11580
10:13:26,470 --> 10:13:27,471
THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL AS POINTED

11581
10:13:27,471 --> 10:13:29,439
OUT IN THE LETTERS SUBMITTED BY MR.

11582
10:13:29,439 --> 10:13:30,440
JONES. ONE IS REQUIRED TO MAKE QUICK

11583
10:13:30,440 --> 10:13:32,442
CHECKS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS BEFORE CROSSING

11584
10:13:32,442 --> 10:13:33,443
AND ON TWO OCCASIONS I ALMOST STEPPED IN

11585
10:13:33,443 --> 10:13:35,445
FRONT OF AN ONCOMING CAR. THE

11586
10:13:35,445 --> 10:13:36,446
CROSSING ON DORSET AVENUE HAS A MEDIAN

11587
10:13:36,446 --> 10:13:38,446
STRIP

11588
10:13:39,449 --> 10:13:41,849
. RESTORING THE MEDIAN STRIP

11589
10:13:45,455 --> 10:13:47,457
ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SACRIFICING

11590
10:13:47,457 --> 10:13:49,459
IT TO AN UNNECESSARY SLIVER OF PARKLAND.

11591
10:13:49,459 --> 10:13:52,459
I LOVE PARKWAYS, THEY PROVIDE

11592
10:13:52,496 --> 10:13:55,496
A WELCOME ESCAPE FOR MOTORISTS

11593
10:13:55,499 --> 10:13:57,499
FROM WELCOME --

11594
10:13:59,503 --> 10:14:00,504
FROM REGULAR ROADS. IT WAS THE CASE

11595
10:14:00,504 --> 10:14:02,472
WITH LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY BEFORE THE

11596
10:14:02,472 --> 10:14:04,474
ABOMINABLE MESS THAT HAS BEEN INFLICTED

11597
10:14:04,474 --> 10:14:07,474
UPON IT. THE UGLY ORANGE

11598
10:14:07,477 --> 10:14:09,477
AND WHITE

11599
10:14:09,479 --> 10:14:10,480
BALUSTERS ARE AN ABSOLUTE EYESORE.

11600
10:14:10,480 --> 10:14:12,480
THE PROPOSED CHANGES

11601
10:14:12,482 --> 10:14:13,483
TO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY HAVE ABSOLUTELY

11602
10:14:13,483 --> 10:14:15,483
NO

11603
10:14:15,485 --> 10:14:18,485
TANGIBLE BENEFITS. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST

11604
10:14:19,489 --> 10:14:21,491
THAT THE BOARD REJECT

11605
10:14:21,491 --> 10:14:22,492
THE STAFF PROPOSAL AND RESTORE LITTLE

11606
10:14:22,492 --> 10:14:23,493
FALLS PARKWAY TO

11607
10:14:23,493 --> 10:14:27,930
ITS FORMER, SAFER , AND MORE COMPATIBLE

11608
10:14:28,498 --> 10:14:29,499
CONFIGURATION. THANK

11609
10:14:29,499 --> 10:14:31,501
YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

11610
10:14:31,501 --> 10:14:33,501
DAVID

11611
10:14:34,504 --> 10:14:35,472
FOREMAN REPRESENTING

11612
10:14:35,472 --> 10:14:37,474
THE CITIZENS COORDINATING COMMUNITY

11613
10:14:37,474 --> 10:14:39,474
ON FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS.

11614
10:14:40,477 --> 10:14:42,877
IS YOUR MIC GONE?

11615
10:14:43,447 --> 10:14:45,447
OH.

11616
10:14:46,450 --> 10:14:48,450
THERE. OKAY. >>

11617
10:14:49,453 --> 10:14:52,456
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS COORDINATING COMMUNITY

11618
10:14:52,456 --> 10:14:54,456
ON FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS.

11619
10:14:55,459 --> 10:14:57,459
>> GET CLOSER

11620
10:14:57,461 --> 10:15:01,465
TO YOUR MIC. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

11621
10:15:01,465 --> 10:15:03,465
>>

11622
10:15:04,468 --> 10:15:07,471
I AM THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS

11623
10:15:07,471 --> 10:15:08,438
COORDINATING COMMITTEE

11624
10:15:08,438 --> 10:15:10,440
ON FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS. WE ARE A COALITION

11625
10:15:10,440 --> 10:15:12,440
OF 19 ORGANIZATIONS

11626
10:15:12,442 --> 10:15:16,446
FROM COMMUNITIES IN AND AROUND THE FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS AREA. REPRESENTING

11627
10:15:16,446 --> 10:15:18,446
ABOUT 20,000 COUNTY RESIDENTS,

11628
10:15:19,449 --> 10:15:20,450
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IMMEDIATELY

11629
10:15:20,450 --> 10:15:22,452
SURROUND LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AND

11630
10:15:22,452 --> 10:15:24,852
WE ARE THE PEOPLE

11631
10:15:25,455 --> 10:15:27,455
MOST DIRECTLY

11632
10:15:30,460 --> 10:15:31,461
DEPENDENT ON AND AFFECTED BY LITTLE

11633
10:15:31,461 --> 10:15:32,462
FALLS PARKWAY. THEREFORE, THE PLANNING

11634
10:15:32,462 --> 10:15:33,463
BOARDS SHOULD GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION

11635
10:15:33,463 --> 10:15:34,464
AND WEIGHT TO OUR VIEWS ON THE ISSUE.

11636
10:15:34,464 --> 10:15:35,465
THERE

11637
10:15:35,465 --> 10:15:38,468
IS WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION IN OUR COMMUNITIES

11638
10:15:38,468 --> 10:15:40,470
TO THE CLOSING OF TWO LANES OF LITTLE

11639
10:15:40,470 --> 10:15:42,439
FALLS PARKWAY.

11640
10:15:42,439 --> 10:15:43,440
AND THE PLANNED LINEAR PARK. LITTLE

11641
10:15:43,440 --> 10:15:45,440
FALLS

11642
10:15:46,443 --> 10:15:47,444
PARKWAY

11643
10:15:47,444 --> 10:15:49,479
IS THE UNIQUE MAJOR ARTERY BETWEEN

11644
10:15:49,479 --> 10:15:52,479
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN DOWNTOWN BETHESDA.

11645
10:15:52,482 --> 10:15:53,483
WE

11646
10:15:53,483 --> 10:15:55,485
TRAVEL LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY NOT OUT

11647
10:15:55,485 --> 10:15:58,488
OF LAZINESS BUT OUT OF NEED ,

11648
10:15:58,488 --> 10:16:00,488
WE MUST

11649
10:16:01,491 --> 10:16:02,492
DRIVE LITTLE FALLS

11650
10:16:02,492 --> 10:16:04,494
PARKWAY TO GO TO WORK, TO MEDICAL

11651
10:16:04,494 --> 10:16:05,495
POINT IS, TO TAKE OUR

11652
10:16:05,495 --> 10:16:06,496
CHILDREN TO PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE TO

11653
10:16:06,496 --> 10:16:07,497
GO, AND ALSO TO GO TO RESTAURANTS

11654
10:16:07,497 --> 10:16:08,498
AND

11655
10:16:08,498 --> 10:16:12,980
SHOPPING IN BETHESDA IN POINTS NORTH.

11656
10:16:13,503 --> 10:16:16,473
VALUABLE BUSINESS THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE GO

11657
10:16:16,473 --> 10:16:19,476
TO D.C. OR VIRGINIA. LITTLE FALLS

11658
10:16:19,476 --> 10:16:21,876
PARKWAY IS THE MAJOR

11659
10:16:24,481 --> 10:16:25,482
ROUTE FROM THE LARGE TRAFFIC OF COMMUTERS

11660
10:16:25,482 --> 10:16:27,482
COMING FROM

11661
10:16:28,485 --> 10:16:30,487
D.C. AND VIRGINIA TO BETHESDA

11662
10:16:30,487 --> 10:16:31,488
AND POINTS NORTH. THERE ARE NO CONVENIENT

11663
10:16:31,488 --> 10:16:33,488
ALTERNATIVE ROUTES. THE

11664
10:16:34,491 --> 10:16:36,493
CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS SUBSTANTIALLY

11665
10:16:36,493 --> 10:16:40,930
LESS SAFE THAN THE FOUR-LANE PARKWAY

11666
10:16:40,497 --> 10:16:43,497
THAT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE. IT

11667
10:16:43,500 --> 10:16:45,502
IS OBVIOUS AND IS SUPPORTED BY

11668
10:16:45,502 --> 10:16:46,503
OBJECTIVE DATA THAT A FOUR-LANE ROAD

11669
10:16:46,503 --> 10:16:48,503
WITH A

11670
10:16:49,472 --> 10:16:51,475
WIDE MEDIAN AND SHOULDERS

11671
10:16:51,475 --> 10:16:52,475
TO PULL OFF ON IN AN EMERGENCY IS

11672
10:16:52,475 --> 10:16:54,475
MUCH SAFER THAN

11673
10:16:55,479 --> 10:16:57,481
A ROAD OF NARROW, OPPOSING SINGLE

11674
10:16:57,481 --> 10:17:01,485
LANES WITH NO MEDIAN AND NO SHOULDER.

11675
10:17:01,485 --> 10:17:03,485
IF THERE WAS

11676
10:17:04,487 --> 10:17:07,487
NO PLAN TO REPURPOSE LANES

11677
10:17:07,491 --> 10:17:08,492
TO BUILD A LINEAR PARK, THERE

11678
10:17:08,492 --> 10:17:12,920
WOULD NOT BE ANY JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER

11679
10:17:12,496 --> 10:17:13,496
FOR CONVERTING A BEAUTIFUL, WELL RUNNING,

11680
10:17:13,496 --> 10:17:15,496
SAFE PARKWAY

11681
10:17:16,500 --> 10:17:19,500
INTO A SMALL ROAD THAT

11682
10:17:19,502 --> 10:17:21,504
, ALTHOUGH APPARENTLY ADEQUATE FOR CURRENT

11683
10:17:21,504 --> 10:17:25,104
TRAFFIC VOLUME, IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS SAFE

11684
10:17:25,475 --> 10:17:27,475
, CONFUSING, AND UNCOMFORTABLE

11685
10:17:28,478 --> 10:17:30,478
TO DRIVE.

11686
10:17:30,480 --> 10:17:31,481
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE LINEAR PARK THAT

11687
10:17:31,481 --> 10:17:33,481
IS

11688
10:17:34,484 --> 10:17:37,487
THE REASON FOR THE ROAD CONFIGURATION.

11689
10:17:37,487 --> 10:17:39,487
I MUST EMPHASIZE

11690
10:17:40,490 --> 10:17:43,493
THAT WE LOVE OUR PARKS. INDEED, LAST YEAR

11691
10:17:43,493 --> 10:17:45,493
OUR ORGANIZATION

11692
10:17:46,496 --> 10:17:47,497
WROTE

11693
10:17:47,497 --> 10:17:49,532
THE COUNTY COUNCIL STRONGLY SUPPORTING TWO

11694
10:17:49,532 --> 10:17:51,534
OTHER PARTS. WE JUST DON'T WANT THIS PARTICULAR PARK.

11695
10:17:51,534 --> 10:17:52,536
THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY THIS SPECIFIC

11696
10:17:52,536 --> 10:17:54,936
PARK IS A MISTAKE.

11697
10:17:55,505 --> 10:17:58,508
IT IS NOT WANTED OR NEEDED

11698
10:17:58,508 --> 10:18:00,510
, VERY FEW PEOPLE USE

11699
10:18:00,510 --> 10:18:01,511
IT TODAY FOR BICYCLING OR WALKING,

11700
10:18:01,511 --> 10:18:03,511
ALTHOUGH

11701
10:18:03,513 --> 10:18:04,514
THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE QUITE FEASIBLE CURRENTLY.

11702
10:18:04,514 --> 10:18:06,514
THIS IS

11703
10:18:07,517 --> 10:18:08,518
NOT SURPRISING SINCE IT IS

11704
10:18:08,518 --> 10:18:10,520
A SHORT, UNATTRACTIVE STRETCH OF ROAD

11705
10:18:10,520 --> 10:18:13,520
THAT GOES NOWHERE NEXT TO

11706
10:18:13,523 --> 10:18:15,923
A BUSY HIGHWAY WITH

11707
10:18:16,526 --> 10:18:18,926
AMPLE, MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVES.

11708
10:18:19,529 --> 10:18:21,929
THERE ARE MUCH BETTER

11709
10:18:22,532 --> 10:18:24,932
ALTERNATIVES. THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

11710
10:18:25,535 --> 10:18:27,535
TRAIL

11711
10:18:27,537 --> 10:18:28,505
PROVIDES WONDERFUL BICYCLING AND WALKING.

11712
10:18:28,505 --> 10:18:30,505
THE 14 ACRE NORWOOD

11713
10:18:31,508 --> 10:18:34,511
PARK PROVIDES A SPACIOUS AND BEAUTIFUL PARKLAND

11714
10:18:34,511 --> 10:18:36,911
AND THERE ARE OTHER

11715
10:18:37,514 --> 10:18:40,517
FINE PARKS AND TRAILS AS WELL.

11716
10:18:40,517 --> 10:18:42,519
I EMPHASIZE THAT THESE

11717
10:18:42,519 --> 10:18:43,520
ARE JUST NOT PARKS IN THE GENERAL AREA,

11718
10:18:43,520 --> 10:18:45,522
THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO LITTLE

11719
10:18:45,522 --> 10:18:46,523
FALLS PARKWAY AND ARE MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVES

11720
10:18:46,523 --> 10:18:48,523
FOR

11721
10:18:49,526 --> 10:18:51,526
EVERY USE.

11722
10:18:54,531 --> 10:18:55,532
EVIDENCE OF THE FAILURE OF THE CLOSED

11723
10:18:55,532 --> 10:18:58,532
LANES FOR THEIR ORIGINAL PURPOSE,

11724
10:18:58,535 --> 10:19:00,537
BICYCLING AND WALKING, IS THAT PARKS APPEARS

11725
10:19:00,537 --> 10:19:01,538
TO BE DESPERATELY TRYING TO FIND SOME

11726
10:19:01,538 --> 10:19:03,538
OTHER WAY

11727
10:19:04,507 --> 10:19:06,509
, ANY OTHER WAY, TO

11728
10:19:06,509 --> 10:19:10,513
USE THE DESERTED LANES AS A PARK. PROPOSING

11729
10:19:10,513 --> 10:19:12,513
GIANT CHESSMEN, CORN

11730
10:19:12,515 --> 10:19:13,516
HOLE GAMES, FOOD TRUCKS, MUSICAL EVENTS ADJACENT

11731
10:19:13,516 --> 10:19:15,516
TO A

11732
10:19:16,519 --> 10:19:19,519
NOISY ROADWAY AND SO ON.

11733
10:19:19,522 --> 10:19:22,522
SOME OF THESE IDEAS ARE

11734
10:19:22,525 --> 10:19:26,725
ALMOST LUDICROUS. THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH

11735
10:19:27,530 --> 10:19:28,531
WITH THE PHYSICAL LOCATION, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS,

11736
10:19:28,531 --> 10:19:30,531
THE LACK

11737
10:19:31,534 --> 10:19:34,537
OF PARKING, AND THE LACK OF

11738
10:19:34,537 --> 10:19:37,507
ENTHUSIASM FOR SUCH ACTIVITIES. WE URGE YOU TO

11739
10:19:37,507 --> 10:19:40,510
SCRAP THE PILOT AND THEREFORE RETURN

11740
10:19:40,510 --> 10:19:45,310
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY TO IT'S A LITERAL STAY.

11741
10:19:49,552 --> 10:19:51,552
APART THAT

11742
10:19:51,554 --> 10:19:52,555
THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT NEED OR

11743
10:19:52,555 --> 10:19:53,556
WANT SHOULD NOT JUSTIFY MAKING A VITAL, ESSENTIAL

11744
10:19:53,556 --> 10:19:54,557
ROADWAY UNSAFE, INCONVENIENT FOR THE

11745
10:19:54,557 --> 10:19:55,558
MANY RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

11746
10:19:55,558 --> 10:19:57,560
WHO NEED TO TRAVEL ON

11747
10:19:57,560 --> 10:19:58,561
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. >> THANK YOU

11748
10:19:58,561 --> 10:20:00,561
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

11749
10:20:01,564 --> 10:20:03,564
MY SYMPATHIES

11750
10:20:04,567 --> 10:20:07,570
FOR THE LOSS WHO I WORKED WITH FOR

11751
10:20:07,570 --> 10:20:11,541
MANY YEARS. CHARLOTTE STEWART IS NOT HERE?

11752
10:20:11,541 --> 10:20:13,541
NO. OKAY.

11753
10:20:14,544 --> 10:20:17,544
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

11754
10:20:20,550 --> 10:20:22,550
PETE ,

11755
10:20:23,553 --> 10:20:25,553
JOHN NICHOLSON,

11756
10:20:26,556 --> 10:20:28,556
ALLISON, PHILIP,

11757
10:20:29,559 --> 10:20:31,559
AND STEPHEN SCHAPIRO

11758
10:20:32,562 --> 10:20:34,562
.

11759
10:20:35,565 --> 10:20:37,565
I'M SORRY.

11760
10:20:38,568 --> 10:20:41,568
JOHN NICHOLSON IS ON TEAMS.

11761
10:20:44,541 --> 10:20:48,741
I THINK NEIL CAN ALSO COME UP.

11762
10:21:02,559 --> 10:21:04,559
>>

11763
10:21:08,565 --> 10:21:10,565
THANKS.

11764
10:21:15,538 --> 10:21:16,539
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE KENWOOD CITIZENS

11765
10:21:16,539 --> 10:21:17,540
ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE 290 HOMES IN

11766
10:21:17,540 --> 10:21:18,541
A NEIGHBORHOOD

11767
10:21:18,541 --> 10:21:20,543
THAT IS ADJACENT TO LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

11768
10:21:20,543 --> 10:21:21,544
WE RIDE BIKES AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,

11769
10:21:21,544 --> 10:21:23,546
KENWOOD, WE USE THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

11770
10:21:23,546 --> 10:21:25,546
TRAIL ,

11771
10:21:28,551 --> 10:21:29,552
MY WIFE GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

11772
10:21:29,552 --> 10:21:31,552
SHE RODE

11773
10:21:31,554 --> 10:21:34,557
BIKES AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I RAISED

11774
10:21:34,557 --> 10:21:35,558
MY CHILDREN THERE, THEY RODE BIKES THERE

11775
10:21:35,558 --> 10:21:37,558
AND ON

11776
10:21:37,560 --> 10:21:38,561
THE TRAIL. AND NOW I AM TEACHING MY

11777
10:21:38,561 --> 10:21:40,561
GRANDCHILDREN TO

11778
10:21:40,563 --> 10:21:41,564
RIDE BIKES. WE LOVE BIKES. WE USE

11779
10:21:41,564 --> 10:21:43,564
THE CAPITAL

11780
10:21:44,567 --> 10:21:47,604
CRESCENT TRAIL. WE ARE VERY MUCH AGAINST

11781
10:21:47,604 --> 10:21:49,572
THIS PILOT

11782
10:21:49,572 --> 10:21:50,573
PROJECT, THE ROAD DIED, THE LINEAR PARK.

11783
10:21:50,573 --> 10:21:52,573
I TALKED

11784
10:21:53,576 --> 10:21:56,576
TO NEIGHBORS, WHO ASKED ME,

11785
10:21:59,582 --> 10:22:01,584
BASIC QUESTIONS, WHY ARE WE CANNIBALIZING

11786
10:22:01,584 --> 10:22:03,586
TWO LANES OF A FUNCTIONING FOUR-LANE

11787
10:22:03,586 --> 10:22:05,588
PARKWAY THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE

11788
10:22:05,588 --> 10:22:06,589
FOR 60 YEARS? A MAJOR ARTERY THAT

11789
10:22:06,589 --> 10:22:08,591
TAKES MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE QUARTER

11790
10:22:08,591 --> 10:22:10,591
DOOR DOWN INTO

11791
10:22:11,594 --> 10:22:13,994
BETHESDA AND BACK. TO

11792
10:22:14,597 --> 10:22:17,600
BUILD A LINEAR PARK WHEN WE HAVE

11793
10:22:17,600 --> 10:22:20,000
PARKS ON BOTH SIDES

11794
10:22:21,604 --> 10:22:23,573
, IT MAKES NO SENSE. I DON'T HAVE AN

11795
10:22:23,573 --> 10:22:24,574
ANSWER FOR IT. THE PEOPLE WHO

11796
10:22:24,574 --> 10:22:26,576
UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THIS WORKS

11797
10:22:26,576 --> 10:22:29,579
IN THE COUNTY ASKED ME AND I DON'T HAVE

11798
10:22:29,579 --> 10:22:31,579
THE ANSWER

11799
10:22:31,581 --> 10:22:32,582
ABOUT THE --I GUESS THERE WAS A 2019

11800
10:22:32,582 --> 10:22:34,582
41

11801
10:22:35,585 --> 10:22:37,985
VOTE, WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

11802
10:22:44,594 --> 10:22:45,595
PEOPLE ASKED ME, WHY DID THEY CLOSE THE PARKWAY?

11803
10:22:45,595 --> 10:22:47,597
I SAID WELL, I SAID, IT'S COVID. THIS BEEN

11804
10:22:47,597 --> 10:22:48,598
A COUPLE MILLIONS DOLLARS, THEY PUT

11805
10:22:48,598 --> 10:22:50,600
GATES UP, CLOSED ALL FOUR LANES, NO

11806
10:22:50,600 --> 10:22:51,601
ONE USED --I'M TELLING YOU. I'M THERE

11807
10:22:51,601 --> 10:22:53,603
EVERY DAY. NO ONE USED IT. PAT JOHNSON'S

11808
10:22:53,603 --> 10:22:56,603
VIDEOS ARE THE REAL STUFF.

11809
10:22:58,575 --> 10:22:59,576
WE HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE, AT FIRST

11810
10:22:59,576 --> 10:23:01,578
I CANNOT BELIEVE IT.

11811
10:23:01,578 --> 10:23:05,178
WE SURVEYED OUR COMMUNITY, WE SURVEYED

11812
10:23:05,582 --> 10:23:06,583
--

11813
10:23:06,583 --> 10:23:08,585
SOMEONE RECENTLY REFERRED TO THE SURVEYS, SOMERSET,

11814
10:23:08,585 --> 10:23:11,585
SUMNER, WEST MORELAND HILLS, SPRINGHILL,

11815
10:23:11,588 --> 10:23:13,588
SPRINGFIELD, EXCUSE ME.

11816
10:23:14,591 --> 10:23:16,991
I THOUGHT IT WOULD

11817
10:23:17,594 --> 10:23:20,597
BE MAYBE 60%, 65. IT WAS WELL ABOVE 80%

11818
10:23:20,597 --> 10:23:22,597
AND

11819
10:23:22,599 --> 10:23:23,600
IN KENWOOD IT WAS ABOVE 95% AGAINST

11820
10:23:23,600 --> 10:23:25,600
THIS WHOLE IDEA.

11821
10:23:26,603 --> 10:23:28,603
RESOUNDING.

11822
10:23:29,572 --> 10:23:30,573
SOMEONE ASKED ME ABOUT, WELL, GOSH, THERE

11823
10:23:30,573 --> 10:23:32,575
ARE APARTMENT BUILDINGS HERE. THEY DON'T

11824
10:23:32,575 --> 10:23:35,578
HAVE BACKYARDS. IT'S A VERY BIG

11825
10:23:35,578 --> 10:23:37,578
CONDOMINIUM ON

11826
10:23:37,580 --> 10:23:38,581
THE CORNER OF RIVER ROAD AND LITTLE FALLS

11827
10:23:38,581 --> 10:23:40,581
PARKWAY. THAT CONDOMINIUM

11828
10:23:41,584 --> 10:23:43,586
WOULD REQUIRE A HALF-MILE WALK ON A

11829
10:23:43,586 --> 10:23:44,587
DANGEROUS PARKWAY JUST TO GET TO THE

11830
10:23:44,587 --> 10:23:46,587
BEGINNING OF THIS

11831
10:23:47,624 --> 10:23:50,593
LINEAR PARK. POTTER PARK IS 390 FEET AWAY.

11832
10:23:50,593 --> 10:23:52,595
SO, IF WE REALLY WANT

11833
10:23:52,595 --> 10:23:53,596
TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM, LET'S FIX

11834
10:23:53,596 --> 10:23:55,596
POTTER PART.

11835
10:23:56,599 --> 10:23:58,599
THIS ROAD DIED

11836
10:23:58,601 --> 10:24:02,572
HAS SOME SAFETY PROBLEMS I WOULD LIKE TO

11837
10:24:02,572 --> 10:24:03,573
POINT OUT. I THINK FOLKS OF ALREADY

11838
10:24:03,573 --> 10:24:05,575
TALKED ABOUT THEM. OBVIOUSLY, WHEN

11839
10:24:05,575 --> 10:24:07,577
YOU NARROW LANES AND SLOW TRAFFIC

11840
10:24:07,577 --> 10:24:08,578
YOU SHOULD GET HIGHER SAFETY AND YOU

11841
10:24:08,578 --> 10:24:10,978
PROBABLY DO ON THAT

11842
10:24:11,581 --> 10:24:14,584
ROAD BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE,

11843
10:24:14,584 --> 10:24:16,584
YOU DON'T.

11844
10:24:20,590 --> 10:24:21,591
YOU

11845
10:24:21,591 --> 10:24:23,593
GET NO SHOULDER, NO MEDIAN, LOTS OF

11846
10:24:23,593 --> 10:24:25,595
OVERFLOW TRAFFIC INTO KENWOOD, SERIOUS PROBLEMS IN KENWOOD.

11847
10:24:25,595 --> 10:24:29,195
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. ALLISON.

11848
10:24:29,599 --> 10:24:31,599
>> HELLO. I'M HERE

11849
10:24:31,601 --> 10:24:32,602
TONIGHT TO SUPPORT THE CHANGES TO

11850
10:24:32,602 --> 10:24:34,602
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

11851
10:24:37,573 --> 10:24:38,574
AND THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE ROAD

11852
10:24:38,574 --> 10:24:40,576
FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES

11853
10:24:40,576 --> 10:24:44,776
AND THE CREATION OF THE LINEAR PARK.

11854
10:24:47,583 --> 10:24:49,585
I RIDE THROUGH BETHESDA A LOT TO GET A LOT OF

11855
10:24:49,585 --> 10:24:50,586
THINGS I LIKE DOING. A LOT OF MY FRIENDS

11856
10:24:50,586 --> 10:24:52,588
HAVE RECENTLY BEEN OVERJOYED TO

11857
10:24:52,588 --> 10:24:53,589
MOVE INTO HIGH-RISES IN THE AREA AND THERE

11858
10:24:53,589 --> 10:24:55,589
ARE GREAT TRAILS

11859
10:24:57,593 --> 10:24:59,595
THAT CONNECTED THINGS ALL OVER THE

11860
10:24:59,595 --> 10:25:01,597
COUNTY. THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO THERE AND I'M

11861
10:25:01,597 --> 10:25:02,598
REALLY GLAD TO SEE ALL OF THE HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS GOING

11862
10:25:02,598 --> 10:25:03,599
UP AND ALL

11863
10:25:03,599 --> 10:25:05,601
OF THE GREAT CHANGES COMING TO BETHESDA.

11864
10:25:05,601 --> 10:25:08,100
I THINK IT'S GREAT.

11865
10:25:11,574 --> 10:25:12,575
I THINK THAT THE NEW LINEAR PARK CAN POTENTIALLY PROVIDE A LOT OF

11866
10:25:12,575 --> 10:25:14,577
RECREATION SPACE THAT IS REALLY BADLY

11867
10:25:14,577 --> 10:25:16,579
NEEDED. I ALSO THINK IT WILL TAKE A LOT

11868
10:25:16,579 --> 10:25:17,580
OF PRESSURE OFF THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

11869
10:25:17,580 --> 10:25:19,582
TRAIL AND ALLOWED TO FUNCTION BETTER.

11870
10:25:19,582 --> 10:25:20,583
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD

11871
10:25:20,583 --> 10:25:22,585
BE TWEAKED IN THE PROPOSAL, THERE ARE A

11872
10:25:22,585 --> 10:25:23,586
LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED,

11873
10:25:23,586 --> 10:25:25,588
BUT THERE ALWAYS ARE. I HAVE TO

11874
10:25:25,588 --> 10:25:26,589
TELL YOU THREE YEARS AGO I BEGAN RIDING

11875
10:25:26,589 --> 10:25:28,589
MY BIKE

11876
10:25:28,591 --> 10:25:29,592
AGAIN SERIOUSLY AFTER NOT WRITING

11877
10:25:29,592 --> 10:25:31,594
AND I HAVE BEEN OVERJOYED TO FIND MORE

11878
10:25:31,594 --> 10:25:32,595
SAFE PLACES TO RIDE. I WOULD REALLY

11879
10:25:32,595 --> 10:25:34,595
URGE ANYONE THAT

11880
10:25:35,598 --> 10:25:38,598
HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RECONFIGURATION

11881
10:25:38,601 --> 10:25:41,100
TO DRIVE ON SLIGO

11882
10:25:56,619 --> 10:25:58,621
OR BEACH DRIVE. IT IS FINE. I DO IT ALL THE TIME. I WATCH

11883
10:25:58,621 --> 10:25:59,622
AMBULANCES GO UP AND DOWN BOTH THOSE

11884
10:25:59,622 --> 10:26:00,623
ROADS ALL THE TIME AND IT IS FINE.

11885
10:26:00,623 --> 10:26:01,624
IT

11886
10:26:01,624 --> 10:26:02,625
IS ABSOLUTELY FINE. THIS ROAD HAS

11887
10:26:02,625 --> 10:26:03,626
ALWAYS BEEN OUTLIER AND IN FACT, I

11888
10:26:03,626 --> 10:26:04,627
USED TO

11889
10:26:04,627 --> 10:26:05,628
HATE DRIVING ON IT BECAUSE IT WAS

11890
10:26:05,628 --> 10:26:08,631
ALWAYS FULL OF REALLY AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS

11891
10:26:08,631 --> 10:26:09,632
GOING REALLY FAST WHO DROVE IN REALLY

11892
10:26:09,632 --> 10:26:10,633
AGGRESSIVE WAYS. NOT

11893
10:26:10,633 --> 10:26:12,635
ONLY DID I NOT LIKE BIKING OVER THERE,

11894
10:26:12,635 --> 10:26:13,636
I DO NOT LIKE

11895
10:26:13,636 --> 10:26:14,637
DRIVING OVER THERE AND I AVOIDED IT LIKE

11896
10:26:14,637 --> 10:26:15,638
THE PLAGUE. THE RECONFIGURATION HAS BEEN

11897
10:26:15,638 --> 10:26:16,606
A WONDERFUL THING FOR

11898
10:26:16,606 --> 10:26:18,608
ME BOTH AS A DRIVER AND A BIKE RIDER.

11899
10:26:18,608 --> 10:26:19,609
I WOULD URGE THE PLANNING

11900
10:26:19,609 --> 10:26:20,610
BOARD TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING, PARKS

11901
10:26:20,610 --> 10:26:21,611
DO NOT BELONG TO ANYONE. THEY BELONG

11902
10:26:21,611 --> 10:26:22,612
TO EVERYONE.

11903
10:26:22,612 --> 10:26:23,613
THEY DON'T BELONG TO THE PEOPLE THAT

11904
10:26:23,613 --> 10:26:24,614
LIVE CLOSEST TO THEM, THEY BELONG

11905
10:26:24,614 --> 10:26:25,615
TO EVERYONE.

11906
10:26:25,615 --> 10:26:27,617
WE HAVE TO THINK OF EVERYONE'S NEEDS

11907
10:26:27,617 --> 10:26:29,617
AND USES

11908
10:26:29,619 --> 10:26:34,419
WHEN WE THINK OF HOW WE GOVERN THEM.

11909
10:26:45,635 --> 10:26:46,636
PEOPLE

11910
10:26:46,636 --> 10:26:48,638
THAT LIVE CLOSE BY TO PARKS DON'T

11911
10:26:48,638 --> 10:26:49,605
GET THE LAST SAY BUT I WILL

11912
10:26:49,605 --> 10:26:50,606
SAY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE CLOSEST TO THIS

11913
10:26:50,606 --> 10:26:51,607
PARK DID SOMETHING INTERESTING, I

11914
10:26:51,607 --> 10:26:52,608
WAS WRITING OVER

11915
10:26:52,608 --> 10:26:54,610
THERE LAST WEEK AND I HAPPEN TO NOTICE

11916
10:26:54,610 --> 10:26:55,611
THAT THEY PUT UP ALL KINDS OF

11917
10:26:55,611 --> 10:26:57,613
SIGNS SAYING, NO PARKING. NO CARS.

11918
10:26:57,613 --> 10:26:58,614
CARS GO AWAY. DO NOT PARK HERE. THE

11919
10:26:58,614 --> 10:26:59,615
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS

11920
10:26:59,615 --> 10:27:00,616
THAT YOU'VE JUST HEARD FROM UNDERSTAND

11921
10:27:00,616 --> 10:27:02,616
INHERENTLY HOW MUCH

11922
10:27:02,618 --> 10:27:03,619
IT HELPS TO GET CARS OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE

11923
10:27:03,619 --> 10:27:04,620
WHEN THEY WANT TO

11924
10:27:04,620 --> 10:27:06,622
HAVE THEIR FRIENDS COME AND WALK AROUND

11925
10:27:06,622 --> 10:27:07,623
AND LOOK AT PRETTY CHERRY TREES

11926
10:27:07,623 --> 10:27:09,625
THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS GET RID

11927
10:27:09,625 --> 10:27:12,250
OF THE CARS. >> BULLSHIT.

11928
10:27:12,628 --> 10:27:14,628
>>

11929
10:27:15,631 --> 10:27:18,310
PLEASE, SIR. >> I WOULD

11930
10:27:18,634 --> 10:27:20,634
ASK YOU

11931
10:27:24,607 --> 10:27:26,609
--THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY

11932
10:27:26,609 --> 10:27:27,610
THOUGHTS. >> THANK YOU. PHILIP? >>

11933
10:27:27,610 --> 10:27:29,610
GOOD

11934
10:27:30,613 --> 10:27:33,613
EVENING, GUYS. OR, EVERYBODY, I

11935
10:27:33,616 --> 10:27:34,617
SHOULD SAY.

11936
10:27:34,617 --> 10:27:36,619
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY CONTESTED

11937
10:27:36,619 --> 10:27:39,190
PIECE OF LAND HERE

11938
10:27:39,622 --> 10:27:40,623
. I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL KEEP IT

11939
10:27:40,623 --> 10:27:44,823
CORDIAL. SO, I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT

11940
10:27:45,661 --> 10:27:46,662
OF MAKING THE ONE LANE STRUCTURE PERMANENCE.

11941
10:27:46,662 --> 10:27:48,664
I THINK THAT IT WILL CREATE SPACE,

11942
10:27:48,664 --> 10:27:50,666
IT WILL CREATE SAFETY, AND IT HAS

11943
10:27:50,666 --> 10:27:54,266
NOT HINDERED THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

11944
10:27:54,670 --> 10:27:56,670
THE CRESCENT TRAIL

11945
10:28:00,643 --> 10:28:01,644
--OR, I SHOULD START ACTUALLY BY SAYING

11946
10:28:01,644 --> 10:28:03,646
THAT I HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE,

11947
10:28:03,646 --> 10:28:05,646
27 YEARS,

11948
10:28:05,648 --> 10:28:06,649
I HOPE THAT NOBODY SHOWS UP AT MY

11949
10:28:06,649 --> 10:28:08,649
PLACE WITH PITCHFORKS.

11950
10:28:09,652 --> 10:28:11,652
I WOULD SAY

11951
10:28:15,658 --> 10:28:16,659
THAT

11952
10:28:16,659 --> 10:28:17,660
THE CRESCENT TRAIL HAS BEEN EXTREMELY

11953
10:28:17,660 --> 10:28:18,661
DANGEROUS FOR MY WHOLE LIFETIME UNTIL

11954
10:28:18,661 --> 10:28:19,662
ABOUT TWO

11955
10:28:19,662 --> 10:28:23,862
YEARS AGO. BIKERS HAVE NOW BEEN MOVED

11956
10:28:26,669 --> 10:28:29,639
--THEY'VE TAKEN A ROUTE ON THE QUESTION TRAIL

11957
10:28:29,639 --> 10:28:30,640
AND ARE USING THE OPEN ROAD NOW WHICH

11958
10:28:30,640 --> 10:28:32,640
HAS A

11959
10:28:32,642 --> 10:28:35,645
LOT MORE SPACE. THERE IS LESS PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC

11960
10:28:35,645 --> 10:28:39,649
AND I BELIEVE THAT OVERALL IT IS MADE

11961
10:28:39,649 --> 10:28:42,649
THINGS SAFER. I ALSO FEEL

11962
10:28:42,652 --> 10:28:43,653
THAT WE IN

11963
10:28:43,653 --> 10:28:45,655
THIS COUNTRY IN GENERAL HAVE TENDED

11964
10:28:45,655 --> 10:28:47,655
TO PRIORITIZE

11965
10:28:47,657 --> 10:28:48,658
CARS OVER PEDESTRIANS AND I THINK

11966
10:28:48,658 --> 10:28:50,658
THAT THAT

11967
10:28:51,661 --> 10:28:53,663
IS THE WRONG THING.

11968
10:28:53,663 --> 10:28:54,664
I THINK THAT PRIORITIZING THE SAFETY

11969
10:28:54,664 --> 10:28:56,664
OF WALKERS, BIKERS,

11970
10:28:57,667 --> 10:28:59,669
AS WELL AS DRIVERS

11971
10:28:59,669 --> 10:29:00,670
IS VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S ALL. THANKS.

11972
10:29:00,670 --> 10:29:02,670
>>

11973
10:29:03,639 --> 10:29:06,390
THANK YOU. STEPHEN SHAPIRO

11974
10:29:06,642 --> 10:29:08,642
? >> GOOD EVENING, ALL.

11975
10:29:09,645 --> 10:29:11,645
I'M STEVE SCHAPIRO.

11976
10:29:12,648 --> 10:29:13,649
I

11977
10:29:13,649 --> 10:29:15,651
LIVE NEAR THE SOUTHERN END OF THE

11978
10:29:15,651 --> 10:29:17,653
PARKWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO REFER YOU TO

11979
10:29:17,653 --> 10:29:18,654
THE MAP AT FIGURE 1 ON PAGE TWO OF

11980
10:29:18,654 --> 10:29:21,540
THE STAFF REPORT. AGENDA

11981
10:29:21,657 --> 10:29:22,658
ITEM 12

11982
10:29:22,658 --> 10:29:24,660
REALLY ADDRESSES TWO ISSUES THAT THE

11983
10:29:24,660 --> 10:29:27,663
BOARD SHOULD SEPARATE. THE FIRST IS

11984
10:29:27,663 --> 10:29:32,463
HOW TO IMPROVE SAFETY AT THE TRAIL CROSSING

11985
10:29:33,669 --> 10:29:34,670
BETWEEN ARLINGTON

11986
10:29:34,670 --> 10:29:36,639
ROAD AND HILLANDALE ROAD. THE SECOND SEPARATE

11987
10:29:36,639 --> 10:29:37,640
ISSUE IS WHERE THERE ANY PARKWAY SOUTH OF

11988
10:29:37,640 --> 10:29:39,642
HILLANDALE ROAD AND SHOULD THEY BE

11989
10:29:39,642 --> 10:29:42,678
REPURPOSED AND HOW? I WOULD LIKE TO START

11990
10:29:42,678 --> 10:29:45,681
WITH THE SECOND. IT PUTS THE CART BEFORE

11991
10:29:45,681 --> 10:29:47,683
THE HORSE FOR THIS BOARD

11992
10:29:47,683 --> 10:29:48,684
TO VOTE TO POSSIBLY CLOSEDOWN PARTS

11993
10:29:48,684 --> 10:29:50,684
OF THE

11994
10:29:50,686 --> 10:29:51,687
PARKWAY BEFORE THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED

11995
10:29:51,687 --> 10:29:52,688
HOW

11996
10:29:52,688 --> 10:29:54,690
IT WOULD BE REPURPOSED BECAUSE IT

11997
10:29:54,690 --> 10:29:56,690
SHOULD ONLY BE

11998
10:29:57,693 --> 10:30:00,696
CLOSED IF THERE IS A COMPELLING LEE USEFUL

11999
10:30:00,696 --> 10:30:03,696
NEED TO DO SO. I

12000
10:30:03,699 --> 10:30:06,699
WOULD URGE THE CHAIR TO

12001
10:30:06,702 --> 10:30:08,702
APPROVE AND

12002
10:30:12,675 --> 10:30:14,675
VIEW

12003
10:30:14,677 --> 10:30:15,678
THE LINEAR PARK BEFORE AND CONCURRENT

12004
10:30:15,678 --> 10:30:16,679
WITH THE DECISION OF CLOSING PART

12005
10:30:16,679 --> 10:30:18,681
OF THE PARKWAY. THE PARKWAY WAS DESIGNED 60

12006
10:30:18,681 --> 10:30:20,683
YEARS AGO TO SERVE AS AN ARTERY BETWEEN THE

12007
10:30:20,683 --> 10:30:21,684
MASS. AVENUE, RIVER ROAD, AND BETHESDA.

12008
10:30:21,684 --> 10:30:22,685
IT WAS DESIGNED TO

12009
10:30:22,685 --> 10:30:24,687
BE FAST, EFFICIENT, AND SCENIC AND

12010
10:30:24,687 --> 10:30:27,690
IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY ABSENT OF

12011
10:30:27,690 --> 10:30:29,692
COMPELLING NEED. MAKING A

12012
10:30:29,692 --> 10:30:32,695
25 MILES AN HOUR AND TWO LANES UNDIVIDED

12013
10:30:32,695 --> 10:30:33,696
JUST BECAUSE SLIGO AND BEACH DRIVE ARE

12014
10:30:33,696 --> 10:30:35,698
THAT WAY IS NOT

12015
10:30:35,698 --> 10:30:36,699
A REASON. GOING SOUTHBOUND, HEADING

12016
10:30:36,699 --> 10:30:39,699
SOUTHBOUND ON THE PARKWAY AT

12017
10:30:39,702 --> 10:30:41,702
RIVER ROAD

12018
10:30:41,704 --> 10:30:45,675
ABOUT HALF OF THE TRAFFIC TURNS LEFT

12019
10:30:45,675 --> 10:30:47,677
ONTO RIVER TOWARDS D.C., HALF CONTINUE STRAIGHT ON THE

12020
10:30:47,677 --> 10:30:48,678
SEGMENT TOWARDS MASS AVENUE. IT IS

12021
10:30:48,678 --> 10:30:50,678
NOT APPROPRIATE

12022
10:30:51,681 --> 10:30:54,684
TO CONSIDER THE CONFIGURATION OF THE

12023
10:30:54,684 --> 10:30:57,687
SOUTHERN SEGMENT AS MEANING THAT IT IS

12024
10:30:57,687 --> 10:31:00,690
OKAY OR APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THE ENTIRE PARKWAY

12025
10:31:00,690 --> 10:31:02,690
TWO LANES UNDIVIDED.

12026
10:31:03,693 --> 10:31:05,695
TWO LANES UNDIVIDED IS

12027
10:31:05,695 --> 10:31:06,696
SLOWER AND LESS SAFE THAN WHAT WE

12028
10:31:06,696 --> 10:31:08,696
HAVE NOW.

12029
10:31:09,699 --> 10:31:12,702
LOOKING AT THAT MAP THERE IS

12030
10:31:12,702 --> 10:31:15,702
A SHARP CURVE SOUTH OF

12031
10:31:15,705 --> 10:31:16,672
HILLANDALE ROAD AND THEN THERE IS THE

12032
10:31:16,672 --> 10:31:18,674
TRANSITION BACK ACROSS THE MEDIAN

12033
10:31:18,674 --> 10:31:20,676
JUST NORTH OF DORSET AVENUE.

12034
10:31:20,676 --> 10:31:21,677
THAT CONFIGURATION IS BOTH AWKWARD

12035
10:31:21,677 --> 10:31:23,677
AND DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY

12036
10:31:24,680 --> 10:31:27,683
AT NIGHT. I ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO MAINTAIN

12037
10:31:27,683 --> 10:31:30,686
THE MEDIAN. THE MEDIAN IS IMPORTANT

12038
10:31:30,686 --> 10:31:32,686
FOR SAFETY. ALSO,

12039
10:31:33,689 --> 10:31:36,692
THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO TURN THE

12040
10:31:36,692 --> 10:31:38,692
GOOD ROAD

12041
10:31:39,695 --> 10:31:41,695
INTO A

12042
10:31:41,731 --> 10:31:42,732
POORER ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE LOOKING

12043
10:31:42,732 --> 10:31:44,734
AT THE MAP, THERE IS A LOT

12044
10:31:44,734 --> 10:31:45,735
OF PARKLAND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PARKWAY

12045
10:31:45,735 --> 10:31:48,738
THAT COULD BE REPURPOSED FOR THE OTHER

12046
10:31:48,738 --> 10:31:50,706
FACILITIES THAT ARE ENVISIONED ARE THE LINEAR PARK

12047
10:31:50,706 --> 10:31:52,708
OR OTHER FACILITIES. THEY DO NOT NEED

12048
10:31:52,708 --> 10:31:54,708
TO BE ON

12049
10:31:54,710 --> 10:31:58,310
THE ROADWAY. LOOKING AT SAFETY AGAIN,

12050
10:31:58,714 --> 10:32:00,716
AT THE TRAIL REFERRING TO FIGURE

12051
10:32:00,716 --> 10:32:01,717
9 ON PAGE 11, I WOULD CONSIDER THE

12052
10:32:01,717 --> 10:32:03,717
BOARD

12053
10:32:04,720 --> 10:32:07,720
TO MOVE THE TRAIL SOUTH

12054
10:32:07,723 --> 10:32:08,724
ACROSS THE HILLANDALE ROAD

12055
10:32:08,724 --> 10:32:10,726
WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING LIGHT AND

12056
10:32:10,726 --> 10:32:12,726
AN

12057
10:32:13,729 --> 10:32:14,730
EXISTING

12058
10:32:14,730 --> 10:32:16,732
CROSSING AND ALSO TO REVISIT THE TRAFFIC

12059
10:32:16,732 --> 10:32:19,732
LIGHT CONSIDERED IN 2019. THANK YOU.

12060
10:32:19,735 --> 10:32:21,735
>> THANK YOU. NEIL.

12061
10:32:22,738 --> 10:32:23,706
KENWOOD CITIZENS ASSOCIATION. >>

12062
10:32:23,706 --> 10:32:25,708
THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING. IT'S

12063
10:32:25,708 --> 10:32:27,710
MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

12064
10:32:27,710 --> 10:32:28,711
I'M NEIL, A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER

12065
10:32:28,711 --> 10:32:29,712
AND A

12066
10:32:29,712 --> 10:32:32,112
PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ENGINEER.

12067
10:32:37,720 --> 10:32:38,721
I'M WORKING

12068
10:32:38,721 --> 10:32:39,722
WITH THE CITIZENS ASSOCIATION AND

12069
10:32:39,722 --> 10:32:40,723
THE TOWN OF SOMERSET TO PROVIDE AN INDEPENDENT

12070
10:32:40,723 --> 10:32:41,724
TRAFFIC

12071
10:32:41,724 --> 10:32:42,725
ANALYSIS USING EXISTING DATA THAT

12072
10:32:42,725 --> 10:32:43,726
WE HAVE AN NEW DATA. I HAVE PASSED OUT

12073
10:32:43,726 --> 10:32:44,727
A

12074
10:32:44,727 --> 10:32:46,729
COPY OF THE REPORTS TO YOU, YOU HAVE

12075
10:32:46,729 --> 10:32:49,129
THAT. THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

12076
10:32:49,732 --> 10:32:52,735
IS ON PAGE TWO, THAT'S A PRETTY EASY READ.

12077
10:32:52,735 --> 10:32:53,736
IF YOU

12078
10:32:53,736 --> 10:32:55,738
WOULD LIKE APPENDICES, THERE ARE HUNDRED

12079
10:32:55,738 --> 10:32:58,707
AND 50 PAGES. I CAN SEND YOU

12080
10:32:58,707 --> 10:33:00,676
THOSE BY EMAIL.

12081
10:33:00,676 --> 10:33:01,677
FIRST, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT

12082
10:33:01,677 --> 10:33:02,678
TO SAY

12083
10:33:02,678 --> 10:33:04,680
THAT I THINK THE PARKS AND THE PLANNING

12084
10:33:04,680 --> 10:33:07,680
COMMISSION DID A FANTASTIC JOB

12085
10:33:07,683 --> 10:33:10,683
AFTER THE FATAL CRASH IN 2016

12086
10:33:10,686 --> 10:33:12,686
WHEN BICYCLISTS

12087
10:33:13,689 --> 10:33:14,690
WERE CRASHED AT

12088
10:33:14,690 --> 10:33:15,691
CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL. IT ONLY TOOK

12089
10:33:15,691 --> 10:33:16,692
THEM ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO MOMENTOUS

12090
10:33:16,692 --> 10:33:17,693
CHANGE

12091
10:33:17,693 --> 10:33:19,695
AND SINCE THEN CRASHES HAVE BEEN REDUCED.

12092
10:33:19,695 --> 10:33:21,695
THEY DID USE

12093
10:33:22,698 --> 10:33:24,700
VISION ZERO AND THEY DID IMPROVE THE

12094
10:33:24,700 --> 10:33:25,701
SITUATION THERE . I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT

12095
10:33:25,701 --> 10:33:27,703
TO REMEMBER WHY THESE

12096
10:33:27,703 --> 10:33:30,673
CHANGES STARTED AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

12097
10:33:30,673 --> 10:33:31,674
TRAIL, LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AND TO THE

12098
10:33:31,674 --> 10:33:33,674
REST OF

12099
10:33:34,677 --> 10:33:36,677
THE PARKWAY.

12100
10:33:36,679 --> 10:33:37,680
PARKS STATED IN THEIR TESTIMONY THAT

12101
10:33:37,680 --> 10:33:39,680
THEY BELIEVE

12102
10:33:39,715 --> 10:33:40,716
IT IS UNSAFE TO OPEN IT UP TO A FOUR

12103
10:33:40,716 --> 10:33:42,718
LANE HIGHWAY AND I WOULD

12104
10:33:42,718 --> 10:33:43,719
AGREE. AT THE CCT IN LITTLE FALLS

12105
10:33:43,719 --> 10:33:44,720
PARKWAY IT

12106
10:33:44,720 --> 10:33:46,722
IS UNSAFE BUT ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'VE

12107
10:33:46,722 --> 10:33:48,724
DONE RIGHT NOW HAS MADE IT LESS

12108
10:33:48,724 --> 10:33:49,725
SAFE THAN IT WAS BEFORE. THE CHANGE

12109
10:33:49,725 --> 10:33:52,125
THEY DID IN 2017 WAS

12110
10:33:52,728 --> 10:33:55,728
SAFE. YOU HAD ONE LANE

12111
10:33:58,734 --> 10:34:00,734
, A 20 FOOT MEDIAN,

12112
10:34:00,736 --> 10:34:01,737
AND ONE LANE. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS CROSS

12113
10:34:01,737 --> 10:34:02,738
12 FEET AT A TIME

12114
10:34:02,738 --> 10:34:04,707
AND ONLY LOOK ONE DIRECTION. NOW WHAT

12115
10:34:04,707 --> 10:34:06,707
THEY HAVE DONE

12116
10:34:09,712 --> 10:34:10,713
IS INSTITUTED 24 FEET THAT YOU HAVE

12117
10:34:10,713 --> 10:34:11,714
TO CROSS AND YOU

12118
10:34:11,714 --> 10:34:13,716
HAVE TO LOOK IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AT

12119
10:34:13,716 --> 10:34:14,717
THE SAME TIME. THEY'VE CREATED SIGHT DISTANCE PROBLEMS

12120
10:34:14,717 --> 10:34:15,718
WITH THE BACKUPS FROM THE TWO NEAR

12121
10:34:15,718 --> 10:34:16,719
INTERSECTIONS. THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.

12122
10:34:16,719 --> 10:34:18,721
I THINK WE NEED

12123
10:34:18,721 --> 10:34:19,722
TO REMEMBER WHY WE GOT TO WHERE WE

12124
10:34:19,722 --> 10:34:22,725
ARE TODAY, NOT TO GO FORWARD

12125
10:34:22,725 --> 10:34:25,728
TOO FAR BEFORE WE REMEMBER WHERE WE

12126
10:34:25,728 --> 10:34:28,128
ARE. THE SECTION BETWEEN

12127
10:34:28,731 --> 10:34:30,733
DORSET AVENUE AND HILLANDALE ROAD,

12128
10:34:30,733 --> 10:34:31,734
THAT WAS OPENED BEFORE, 2017 AND ON

12129
10:34:31,734 --> 10:34:33,734
IT WAS OPEN.

12130
10:34:36,705 --> 10:34:37,706
IT WAS OPERATING JUST FINE. THERE

12131
10:34:37,706 --> 10:34:39,708
WERE NO SAFETY CONCERNS THAT

12132
10:34:39,708 --> 10:34:45,108
I HAVE SEEN IN THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY. SO,

12133
10:34:46,715 --> 10:34:47,716
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN

12134
10:34:47,716 --> 10:34:49,718
WE DID CHANGE IT? WHEN PARK DID CHANGE

12135
10:34:49,718 --> 10:34:50,719
IT AND GOT RID OF TWO LANES?

12136
10:34:50,719 --> 10:34:52,721
WELL, IMMEDIATELY THERE WAS ACCOUNT

12137
10:34:52,721 --> 10:34:54,721
IN 2022

12138
10:34:55,724 --> 10:34:57,726
AND THERE WAS THE JUNE CHANGE

12139
10:34:57,726 --> 10:34:58,727
AND THEN A JULY COUNT IN 2022. IN

12140
10:34:58,727 --> 10:35:01,127
BETWEEN THOSE TWO COUNTS

12141
10:35:10,706 --> 10:35:11,707
IT WAS A 33.7%

12142
10:35:11,707 --> 10:35:13,709
DECREASE. PARKS TALK TODAY ABOUT, OH,

12143
10:35:13,709 --> 10:35:14,710
THE ROAD TRAFFIC IS DECREASED ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

12144
10:35:14,710 --> 10:35:16,712
WELL, YES, YOU JUST DECREASED IT FROM

12145
10:35:16,712 --> 10:35:18,714
FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS

12146
10:35:18,714 --> 10:35:19,715
WHY. YOU CAN SEE IT IN JUST THESE

12147
10:35:19,715 --> 10:35:21,717
TWO COUNTS BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE.

12148
10:35:21,717 --> 10:35:22,718
IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. ONE OF THE REASONS

12149
10:35:22,718 --> 10:35:25,718
THAT THEY BUILT THE LITTLE

12150
10:35:25,721 --> 10:35:27,723
FALLS PARKWAY WAS SO THERE

12151
10:35:27,723 --> 10:35:28,724
WOULD BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, IT

12152
10:35:28,724 --> 10:35:30,724
WILL CONNECT

12153
10:35:34,730 --> 10:35:36,732
DIFFERENT PARKS AND IT WOULD PROVIDE TRAFFIC RELIEF

12154
10:35:36,732 --> 10:35:37,733
TO OTHER INTERSECTIONS IN THE AREA

12155
10:35:37,733 --> 10:35:40,133
THAT ARE EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS.

12156
10:35:40,769 --> 10:35:42,769
YOU'VE ALL DRIVEN

12157
10:35:42,771 --> 10:35:43,739
THERE, RIVER ROAD, IT IS QUITE BACKED

12158
10:35:43,739 --> 10:35:45,741
UP. THERE ARE SEVERAL FAILING INTERSECTIONS AND

12159
10:35:45,741 --> 10:35:49,941
STUDIES SHOW THAT JUST ONE OF THEM

12160
10:35:52,748 --> 10:35:53,749
, BUT MANY ROADWAYS ARE FAILING AND IF

12161
10:35:53,749 --> 10:35:54,750
YOU HAVE AN OPERATING LITTLE FALLS

12162
10:35:54,750 --> 10:35:55,751
PARKWAY IT COULD HELP RELIEVE THIS

12163
10:35:55,751 --> 10:35:56,752
OTHER INTERSECTION AND PROVIDE THE

12164
10:35:56,752 --> 10:35:58,754
CAPACITY THAT IS NEEDED AND PROVIDE

12165
10:35:58,754 --> 10:36:00,756
SAFETY AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS BY PROVIDING CAPACITY ON

12166
10:36:00,756 --> 10:36:01,757
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. WE NEED TO MAKE

12167
10:36:01,757 --> 10:36:04,157
SURE THAT WE CONTINUE

12168
10:36:04,760 --> 10:36:06,760
TO MAKE LITTLE

12169
10:36:06,762 --> 10:36:07,763
FALLS PARKWAY SAFE AND THE MAIN POINT

12170
10:36:07,763 --> 10:36:10,766
IS THAT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL WHERE IT

12171
10:36:10,766 --> 10:36:11,767
CROSSES LITTLE FALLS

12172
10:36:11,767 --> 10:36:12,768
PARKWAY, I'VE ESTABLISHED WHAT WE

12173
10:36:12,768 --> 10:36:13,769
HAVE DONE RIGHT NOW. WHAT WAS DONE

12174
10:36:13,769 --> 10:36:15,769
IN OCTOBER,

12175
10:36:19,742 --> 10:36:21,742
IT IS

12176
10:36:21,744 --> 10:36:22,745
NOT SAFE. IT IS NOT THE SAFEST. IT

12177
10:36:22,745 --> 10:36:24,747
IS ACTUALLY DECREASE SAFETY FROM BEFORE. YOU

12178
10:36:24,747 --> 10:36:25,748
ACTUALLY HEARD OTHER PEOPLE SAY IT.

12179
10:36:25,748 --> 10:36:28,751
IT IS IN THE REPORTS I DON'T NEED

12180
10:36:28,751 --> 10:36:31,751
TO SHOW YOU THESE BUT

12181
10:36:31,754 --> 10:36:33,756
THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE

12182
10:36:33,756 --> 10:36:34,757
COME UP WITH THAT ARE FAIRLY EASY.

12183
10:36:34,757 --> 10:36:36,759
ONE IS YOU GO BACK TO ONE LANE

12184
10:36:36,759 --> 10:36:37,760
EACH DIRECTION ON EACH SIDE OF THE

12185
10:36:37,760 --> 10:36:39,762
MEDIAN AND CLOSE IT ONLY BETWEEN

12186
10:36:39,762 --> 10:36:40,763
THE PART LIKE THEY DID IN 2017. IT

12187
10:36:40,763 --> 10:36:43,766
WORKED. IT WAS EFFECTIVE. THE OTHER OPTION,

12188
10:36:43,766 --> 10:36:46,769
IT WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CROSSING

12189
10:36:46,769 --> 10:36:49,738
OF THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL, HAVE A COMMENT EXACTLY

12190
10:36:49,738 --> 10:36:52,738
WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW

12191
10:36:54,743 --> 10:36:55,744
AND THEN TAKE THIS EXTRA LANE, NOW

12192
10:36:55,744 --> 10:36:56,745
THEY ARE IN

12193
10:36:56,745 --> 10:36:58,747
THE INSIDE, TAKE THE OUTSIDE LANE,

12194
10:36:58,747 --> 10:36:59,748
PUT A CROSSWALK, HAVE A NEW CROSSWALK ACROSS AND

12195
10:36:59,748 --> 10:37:01,750
THEN RELOCATE A LITTLE BIT CAPITAL

12196
10:37:01,750 --> 10:37:04,753
CRESCENT TRAIL SO THAT YOU COULD CONNECT IT BACK

12197
10:37:04,753 --> 10:37:07,753
IN. THAT IS ONE SOLUTION.

12198
10:37:07,756 --> 10:37:08,757
IT IS ACTUALLY QUITE A LOW

12199
10:37:08,757 --> 10:37:10,759
COST SOLUTION. THE BIG, MAJOR COST

12200
10:37:10,759 --> 10:37:12,761
IS GOING TO BE THE REAL PAYDAY. THIS SECTION

12201
10:37:12,761 --> 10:37:13,762
OF THE TRAIL. IT DOES ALLOW THAT ALL

12202
10:37:13,762 --> 10:37:16,765
CROSSINGS HAPPEN AT A PROTECTED SIGNALIZED

12203
10:37:16,765 --> 10:37:18,765
INTERSECTION WHICH

12204
10:37:18,767 --> 10:37:19,768
PROTECTIONS YOUR SHOW IS THE SAFENESS

12205
10:37:19,768 --> 10:37:21,768
WAY TO GO

12206
10:37:22,771 --> 10:37:24,771
ACROSS THE ROADWAY.

12207
10:37:40,789 --> 10:37:41,790
WITH REASONABLE BUDGETS I THINK GOING

12208
10:37:41,790 --> 10:37:42,791
TO A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION

12209
10:37:42,791 --> 10:37:43,792
IT MAKES SENSE. THE OTHER ONE WOULD

12210
10:37:43,792 --> 10:37:44,793
BE INSTEAD OF GOING OVER TO ARLINGTON,

12211
10:37:44,793 --> 10:37:46,795
GO DOWN TO HILLANDALE ROAD, RELOCATE

12212
10:37:46,795 --> 10:37:47,796
THE TRAIL AND THAT WOULD BE A LONGER

12213
10:37:47,796 --> 10:37:48,797
SECTION. THERE'S

12214
10:37:48,797 --> 10:37:50,799
A LOT MORE IN THE REPORT. I REALLY

12215
10:37:50,799 --> 10:37:51,800
PRAISE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN

12216
10:37:51,800 --> 10:37:53,802
TO ME TONIGHT AND I HOPE IT'S HELPFUL.

12217
10:37:53,802 --> 10:37:54,803
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED

12218
10:37:54,803 --> 10:37:56,772
FROM ME, ANY QUESTIONS, MY EMAIL IS

12219
10:37:56,772 --> 10:37:57,773
AT THE END OF THE REPORT. THANK YOU

12220
10:37:57,773 --> 10:37:58,774
VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12221
10:37:58,774 --> 10:38:02,374
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. FREDERICK,

12222
10:38:02,778 --> 10:38:04,778
LLOYD, RICHARD,

12223
10:38:05,781 --> 10:38:07,781
AND,

12224
10:38:08,784 --> 10:38:10,784
AND CHRISTOPHER.

12225
10:38:23,799 --> 10:38:26,199
FREDERICK AND STARR. >> OKAY.

12226
10:38:31,773 --> 10:38:35,778
>> PRESS YOUR -->> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

12227
10:38:35,778 --> 10:38:37,778
>> I'M FRED.

12228
10:38:45,788 --> 10:38:46,788
I'M A CONSULTANT TO THE KENWOOD CITIZENS

12229
10:38:46,788 --> 10:38:47,790
AND SUMNER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS. I'VE

12230
10:38:47,790 --> 10:38:48,790
A PHD

12231
10:38:48,790 --> 10:38:49,792
IN TRANSPORTATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY

12232
10:38:49,792 --> 10:38:50,792
OF PENNSYLVANIA AND 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE

12233
10:38:50,792 --> 10:38:51,794
AT THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND

12234
10:38:51,794 --> 10:38:53,795
THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AND TRAFFIC

12235
10:38:53,795 --> 10:38:55,797
MODELING ANALYSIS AND SIMULATION.

12236
10:38:55,797 --> 10:38:56,799
PARK AND PLANNING ANALYSIS DOES NOT

12237
10:38:56,799 --> 10:38:58,799
SUPPORT A ROAD

12238
10:38:58,801 --> 10:39:02,401
DIED DECISION ON LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY.

12239
10:39:02,805 --> 10:39:05,205
OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS?

12240
10:39:13,782 --> 10:39:14,783
THE WEST BARD DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY

12241
10:39:14,783 --> 10:39:17,786
GROWTH AND BETHESDA WILL CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY

12242
10:39:17,786 --> 10:39:19,788
TO TRAFFIC GROWTH. FURTHER, RIVER

12243
10:39:19,788 --> 10:39:20,789
ROAD IS A PRIORITY AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT

12244
10:39:20,789 --> 10:39:22,789
IMPLYING A

12245
10:39:23,792 --> 10:39:24,793
LOT OF GROWTH. IN

12246
10:39:24,793 --> 10:39:26,795
WHAT YEAR WILL THIS PROJECTED GROWTH

12247
10:39:26,795 --> 10:39:27,796
AFFECT FUTURE

12248
10:39:27,796 --> 10:39:31,996
TRAFFIC OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY? SIMULATION MODELS

12249
10:39:37,806 --> 10:39:38,807
RAN A SIM TRAFFIC MODEL TO UNDERSTAND

12250
10:39:38,807 --> 10:39:39,808
LITTLE

12251
10:39:39,808 --> 10:39:40,809
FALLS PARKWAY. SIM TRAFFIC IS APPROPRIATE

12252
10:39:40,809 --> 10:39:43,209
TO ANALYZE INDIVIDUAL INTERSECTIONS

12253
10:39:45,814 --> 10:39:46,815
BUT CAN'T EASILY ANALYZE THE TRAFFIC

12254
10:39:46,815 --> 10:39:47,816
IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR ON ADJACENT STREETS.

12255
10:39:47,816 --> 10:39:49,816
WE NEED

12256
10:39:49,818 --> 10:39:52,821
TO KNOW THE COVERAGE AREA OF THE MODELS

12257
10:39:52,821 --> 10:39:53,822
, ASSUMED GROWTH PROJECTIONS, FUTURE

12258
10:39:53,822 --> 10:39:56,222
TRAFFIC PROJECTED, THE YEARS

12259
10:39:56,825 --> 10:39:58,827
OF GROWTH WILL OCCUR

12260
10:39:58,827 --> 10:39:59,828
AND THE IMPACT ON LOCAL STREETS FROM

12261
10:39:59,828 --> 10:40:01,828
ALL

12262
10:40:02,831 --> 10:40:03,832
OF THIS.

12263
10:40:03,832 --> 10:40:06,832
THIRD, VALIDATION OF SIMULATION MODELS.

12264
10:40:08,837 --> 10:40:09,838
HOW IS THE ACCURACY

12265
10:40:09,838 --> 10:40:11,807
OF THE SIMULATION MODELS DETERMINED? WERE

12266
10:40:11,807 --> 10:40:13,807
THEY MEASURED AGAINST

12267
10:40:13,809 --> 10:40:15,811
TRAFFIC CAMS? Q DISTANCE? AND CURE DURATION?

12268
10:40:15,811 --> 10:40:17,813
WHAT GROWTH PROJECTIONS WERE USED

12269
10:40:17,813 --> 10:40:19,813
FOR FUTURE

12270
10:40:22,818 --> 10:40:23,819
ANALYSIS. GROWTH PROJECTIONS ARE NEEDED

12271
10:40:23,819 --> 10:40:24,820
TO ANALYZE IMPACTS ON LITTLE FALLS

12272
10:40:24,820 --> 10:40:29,200
PARKWAY AND ON A LOCAL STREET. FINALLY,

12273
10:40:29,825 --> 10:40:31,825
FOR TRAFFIC

12274
10:40:31,827 --> 10:40:34,827
DECLINE, TRAFFIC GROWTH, AND COVID.

12275
10:40:34,830 --> 10:40:35,831
PARKS AND PLANNING HAS STATED THAT LITTLE

12276
10:40:35,831 --> 10:40:38,231
FALLS PARKWAY CAN ABSORB

12277
10:40:38,834 --> 10:40:41,234
UP TO A 30% INCREASE

12278
10:40:41,837 --> 10:40:44,237
SINCE TRAFFIC IS DECLINING.

12279
10:40:44,806 --> 10:40:46,806
SINCE

12280
10:40:47,809 --> 10:40:50,209
THE AREA IS GROWING,

12281
10:40:50,812 --> 10:40:52,812
WHAT YEAR WITH

12282
10:40:52,814 --> 10:40:53,815
A 30% INCREASE BE REACHED? WE DON'T KNOW.

12283
10:40:53,815 --> 10:40:54,816
IT IS NOT AVAILABLE FROM

12284
10:40:54,816 --> 10:40:56,818
THE INFORMATION. HAS THIS BEEN ACCOUNTED

12285
10:40:56,818 --> 10:40:59,218
FOR IN THE PARK

12286
10:40:59,821 --> 10:41:01,823
AND PLANNING ANALYSIS? COVID HAS AFFECTED

12287
10:41:01,823 --> 10:41:04,823
TRAFFIC NATIONWIDE, WHAT ROLE HAS

12288
10:41:04,826 --> 10:41:07,829
COVID PLAYED IN THIS TRAFFIC CHANGE

12289
10:41:07,829 --> 10:41:11,833
AND HOW HAS IT BEEN ESTIMATED? TRAFFIC

12290
10:41:11,833 --> 10:41:14,833
NATIONWIDE AND IN THIS AREA

12291
10:41:14,836 --> 10:41:17,236
TRAFFIC DECLINED DURING COVID

12292
10:41:17,806 --> 10:41:18,807
AND BEGAN TO RISE AGAIN. HOW

12293
10:41:18,807 --> 10:41:20,809
IS COVID ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE TRAFFIC

12294
10:41:20,809 --> 10:41:22,809
ANALYSIS? OKAY?

12295
10:41:23,812 --> 10:41:26,812
THAT'S IT. >> THANK YOU. THANK

12296
10:41:26,815 --> 10:41:29,215
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

12297
10:41:29,818 --> 10:41:31,818
LLOYD.

12298
10:41:33,822 --> 10:41:35,857
THANK YOU. I'M SORRY MISPRONOUNCED HER NAME. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE

12299
10:41:35,857 --> 10:41:37,857
MINUTES. >>

12300
10:41:38,860 --> 10:41:40,862
I'M LLOYD FROM CHEVY CHASE WEST. FIRST,

12301
10:41:40,862 --> 10:41:41,863
AS THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT, 3386 PEOPLE

12302
10:41:41,863 --> 10:41:43,863
HAVE SIGNED

12303
10:41:44,866 --> 10:41:47,266
A PETITION TO RESTORE

12304
10:41:47,869 --> 10:41:50,269
THE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

12305
10:41:50,839 --> 10:41:53,842
TO FOUR LANES EXCEPT AT THE CAPITAL

12306
10:41:53,842 --> 10:41:55,842
TRAIL CROSSING.

12307
10:41:58,847 --> 10:41:59,848
SECOND, TWO SAFETY THINGS, FIRST, WE

12308
10:41:59,848 --> 10:42:02,851
HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE CAPITAL

12309
10:42:02,851 --> 10:42:04,853
CRESCENT TRAIL CROSSING, IT IS

12310
10:42:04,853 --> 10:42:05,854
ALL WRONG AS THEY CHANGED IT IN OCTOBER 22.

12311
10:42:05,854 --> 10:42:08,254
IT IS GOT TO

12312
10:42:08,824 --> 10:42:10,824
BE A ROAD

12313
10:42:11,827 --> 10:42:14,830
--WHAT IS CALLED A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE OR BICYCLE

12314
10:42:14,830 --> 10:42:15,831
REFUGE AND A ROAD. THERE IS A STATISTIC, IN MY

12315
10:42:15,831 --> 10:42:17,833
WRITTEN TESTIMONY, FEDERAL HIGHWAY

12316
10:42:17,833 --> 10:42:19,835
ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT A

12317
10:42:19,835 --> 10:42:22,835
PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND CAN PRODUCE

12318
10:42:23,805 --> 10:42:26,205
-- REDUCE CRASHES BY

12319
10:42:32,814 --> 10:42:33,815
75%. THAT IS SIGNIFICANT. IT IS GOT TO CHANGE. AS OVERALL

12320
10:42:33,815 --> 10:42:35,817
SAFETY, PARKS IS CONVERTING A DIVIDED

12321
10:42:35,817 --> 10:42:38,820
ROAD INTO A TWO LANE TWO WAY

12322
10:42:38,820 --> 10:42:40,820
UNDIVIDED ROAD.

12323
10:42:40,822 --> 10:42:41,823
AS CITED IN MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY,

12324
10:42:41,823 --> 10:42:43,823
ONE STUDIED SHOWED

12325
10:42:44,826 --> 10:42:47,826
THAT A MULTILANE DIVIDED ROADWAY

12326
10:42:47,829 --> 10:42:50,832
WAS SAFER THAN A TWO LANE

12327
10:42:50,832 --> 10:42:52,832
,

12328
10:42:52,834 --> 10:42:53,835
TWO WAY ROADWAY. THIS WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA,

12329
10:42:53,835 --> 10:42:55,835
INDICATED BY 93%

12330
10:42:56,838 --> 10:42:59,238
REDUCTION IN FATAL CRASHES.

12331
10:42:59,808 --> 10:43:01,810
THE PROBLEM IS HEAD ON.

12332
10:43:01,810 --> 10:43:02,811
HAVING A ROAD THAT IS NOT DIVIDED

12333
10:43:02,811 --> 10:43:04,811
IS

12334
10:43:05,814 --> 10:43:08,817
PLAINLY NOT AS SAFE AS ONE

12335
10:43:08,817 --> 10:43:11,217
WITH THE MEDIAN. THIRD,

12336
10:43:11,820 --> 10:43:14,823
I'M VERY CONFUSED ABOUT A STATEMENT

12337
10:43:14,823 --> 10:43:17,823
BY THE PARKS PEOPLE TODAY.

12338
10:43:17,826 --> 10:43:19,826
THE AGENDA

12339
10:43:20,829 --> 10:43:22,831
FOR THIS SAID THEY WERE GOING

12340
10:43:22,831 --> 10:43:25,831
TO MAKE A PERMANENT CONFIGURATION

12341
10:43:25,834 --> 10:43:26,835
OF TWO OPPOSING DRIVE LANES ALONG

12342
10:43:26,835 --> 10:43:28,835
THE PARKWAY

12343
10:43:30,806 --> 10:43:32,806
WITH FUTURE STUDY

12344
10:43:34,843 --> 10:43:35,844
OF REPRODUCING TRAVEL LANES. THEN

12345
10:43:35,844 --> 10:43:37,846
ALL OF A SUDDEN IN THE PARKS TESTIMONY THEY

12346
10:43:37,846 --> 10:43:39,848
SAY THEY'RE GOING TO ACTIVATE A LINEAR

12347
10:43:39,848 --> 10:43:41,848
PILOT PARK. WELL,

12348
10:43:45,854 --> 10:43:46,855
WE HAVE AN INVITED PUBLIC

12349
10:43:46,855 --> 10:43:47,856
TESTIMONY ON THE PILOT PARK. THAT

12350
10:43:47,856 --> 10:43:48,857
IS SEPARATE. THAT IS VERY TROUBLING

12351
10:43:48,857 --> 10:43:49,858
TO ME. I

12352
10:43:49,858 --> 10:43:50,859
DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD LET THEM DO

12353
10:43:50,859 --> 10:43:51,860
IT UNTIL WE HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

12354
10:43:51,860 --> 10:43:53,860
ON

12355
10:43:53,862 --> 10:43:55,864
IT. LASTLY, THERE IS A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH

12356
10:43:55,864 --> 10:43:57,866
WHAT PARKS HAS DONE. THEY HAVE UNILATERALLY

12357
10:43:57,866 --> 10:44:00,866
DID THIS AND THEN THEY

12358
10:44:00,869 --> 10:44:02,869
CAME BACK.

12359
10:44:07,843 --> 10:44:08,844
SECOND, THEY PROPOSE ONLY ONE CONFIGURATION

12360
10:44:08,844 --> 10:44:09,845
OF THE PARKWAY FOR APPROVAL HERE WHICH

12361
10:44:09,845 --> 10:44:10,846
WOULD TEND

12362
10:44:10,846 --> 10:44:12,848
TO MAKE THEIR DESIRED OUTCOME MORE

12363
10:44:12,848 --> 10:44:14,848
LIKELY. THIRD,

12364
10:44:17,853 --> 10:44:18,854
THEY SEPARATED BOARD REVIEW OF THE

12365
10:44:18,854 --> 10:44:19,855
LINEAR PARK FROM THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS WHICH

12366
10:44:19,855 --> 10:44:20,856
IS SEGMENTATION WHICH THE COUNCIL

12367
10:44:20,856 --> 10:44:21,857
OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY SAID NO,

12368
10:44:21,857 --> 10:44:23,857
NO,

12369
10:44:24,860 --> 10:44:26,862
NO. PARKS BIFURCATED THE PROCESS

12370
10:44:26,862 --> 10:44:27,863
THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM

12371
10:44:27,863 --> 10:44:28,864
TO GET

12372
10:44:28,864 --> 10:44:30,866
THE LINEAR PARK. BECAUSE ONCE YOU

12373
10:44:30,866 --> 10:44:33,866
BASICALLY HAVE CLOSED TWO LANES

12374
10:44:33,869 --> 10:44:35,871
AND YOU HAVE FREE

12375
10:44:35,871 --> 10:44:36,872
LAND IT IS GOING TO BE EASIER TO SAY, YES,

12376
10:44:36,872 --> 10:44:37,839
WE OUGHT TO HAVE A

12377
10:44:37,839 --> 10:44:41,843
PARK THERE SINCE THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

12378
10:44:41,843 --> 10:44:43,845
THE PROPER WAY IS TO LOOK AT THE THING FROM

12379
10:44:43,845 --> 10:44:44,846
THE BEGINNING AS OTHERS HAVE SAID.

12380
10:44:44,846 --> 10:44:45,847
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.

12381
10:44:45,847 --> 10:44:47,847
>>

12382
10:44:48,850 --> 10:44:50,850
THANK YOU. >>

12383
10:44:51,853 --> 10:44:54,253
THANK YOU. MY NAME

12384
10:44:54,856 --> 10:44:55,857
IS RICHARD.

12385
10:44:55,857 --> 10:44:57,859
I'M PLEASED THAT I CAN SPEAK TO YOU

12386
10:44:57,859 --> 10:44:59,859
TODAY. AND CONGRATULATIONS

12387
10:45:00,862 --> 10:45:03,865
ON YOUR APPOINTMENTS, YOUR OFFICIAL APPOINTMENTS

12388
10:45:03,865 --> 10:45:05,865
AND YOUR REAPPOINTMENT ,

12389
10:45:06,868 --> 10:45:08,870
I THINK YOU'RE THE ONLY TWO

12390
10:45:08,870 --> 10:45:12,470
TERM COMMISSIONER IN TWO MONTHS. EVER.

12391
10:45:15,844 --> 10:45:18,244
I'M A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER

12392
10:45:18,847 --> 10:45:20,849
, CAREER FIREFIGHTER. THE LAST EIGHT

12393
10:45:20,849 --> 10:45:26,249
YEARS OF MY CAREER I SERVED AT THE STATION

12394
10:45:26,855 --> 10:45:27,856
WHICH WAS FIRST DUE ON THE CAPITAL

12395
10:45:27,856 --> 10:45:28,857
CRESCENT TRAIL AND

12396
10:45:28,857 --> 10:45:30,859
MOST OF LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. AND

12397
10:45:30,859 --> 10:45:32,859
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

12398
10:45:33,895 --> 10:45:35,897
I SUPPORT THE PARKS PLAN,

12399
10:45:35,897 --> 10:45:39,901
I THINK IT IS A GROUNDBREAKING PLAN

12400
10:45:39,901 --> 10:45:42,901
AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT

12401
10:45:42,904 --> 10:45:43,872
AND THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE

12402
10:45:43,872 --> 10:45:45,874
IT SHOULD BE ADVANCED AND EXTENDED

12403
10:45:45,874 --> 10:45:49,474
AND APPLIED ELSEWHERE. OVER MY CAREER

12404
10:45:51,880 --> 10:45:53,882
I HAVE BEEN A LIFE ACTIVE MEMBER

12405
10:45:53,882 --> 10:45:54,883
OF THE BETHESDA RESCUE SQUAD AND I

12406
10:45:54,883 --> 10:45:56,883
BIKE TO

12407
10:45:57,886 --> 10:45:59,886
WORK

12408
10:45:59,888 --> 10:46:00,889
ALONG THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL AND THE

12409
10:46:00,889 --> 10:46:03,289
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WHEN

12410
10:46:03,892 --> 10:46:06,892
I SERVED AT THE STATION.

12411
10:46:06,895 --> 10:46:08,895
SO, I KNOW

12412
10:46:09,898 --> 10:46:11,900
THE AREA AS A FIREFIGHTER AND AS A

12413
10:46:11,900 --> 10:46:15,904
TRAIL USER AND AS A PARKWAY USER.

12414
10:46:15,904 --> 10:46:18,873
GOING FROM FOUR LANES AND

12415
10:46:18,873 --> 10:46:21,876
A MEDIAN TO TWO LANES WITHOUT

12416
10:46:21,876 --> 10:46:24,879
A MEDIAN IS A DEFINITE SAFETY

12417
10:46:24,879 --> 10:46:27,279
IMPROVEMENT. AS A FIREFIGHTER

12418
10:46:29,884 --> 10:46:30,885
, DRIVING APPARATUS AND RESPONDED

12419
10:46:30,885 --> 10:46:31,886
TO CALLS AND CRASHES, I

12420
10:46:31,886 --> 10:46:33,888
SEE THE INHERENT SAFETY BENEFIT OF

12421
10:46:33,888 --> 10:46:35,888
REDUCING THE LANES

12422
10:46:36,891 --> 10:46:40,491
AND HAVING A TWO WAY STREET

12423
10:46:44,899 --> 10:46:45,900
. THIS REDUCES THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC

12424
10:46:45,900 --> 10:46:46,901
WHICH REDUCES TRAFFIC'S

12425
10:46:46,901 --> 10:46:48,903
AND THE SEVERITY OF CRASHES. THAT'S

12426
10:46:48,903 --> 10:46:49,904
NUMBER ONE TO ME AS A CAREER FIREFIGHTER, LOOKING

12427
10:46:49,904 --> 10:46:51,873
AT ALL OF THE HUMPTY DUMPTY'S THAT

12428
10:46:51,873 --> 10:46:54,873
WE CAN'T PUT BACK TOGETHER.

12429
10:46:54,876 --> 10:46:56,876
YOU KNOW,

12430
10:46:56,878 --> 10:46:57,879
WE COULD PREVENT SO MANY OF THESE TRAGEDIES

12431
10:46:57,879 --> 10:47:00,879
BY GOOD DESIGN WHICH THIS

12432
10:47:00,882 --> 10:47:02,882
IS. SO, I

12433
10:47:03,885 --> 10:47:06,888
SUPPORT THE PLAN , I USE THE TRAIL

12434
10:47:06,888 --> 10:47:08,890
AND I USE THE TRAIL NOW WITH

12435
10:47:08,890 --> 10:47:13,690
THE BIKE AND THE SIDECAR FOR MY DOG.

12436
10:47:14,896 --> 10:47:15,897
USING THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL IS

12437
10:47:15,897 --> 10:47:16,898
A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. IT IS VERY

12438
10:47:16,898 --> 10:47:18,900
CROWDED AND USING THE LITTLE FALLS

12439
10:47:18,900 --> 10:47:20,902
PARKWAY RECLAIMED SPACE IS A

12440
10:47:20,902 --> 10:47:21,903
DEFINITE BENEFIT FOR A WIDE VEHICLE.

12441
10:47:21,903 --> 10:47:23,903
WE ARE SEEING

12442
10:47:29,878 --> 10:47:30,879
THESE MORE AND MORE. FAMILIES ARE GETTING

12443
10:47:30,879 --> 10:47:31,913
CARGO BIKES AND ARE OUT WITH THEIR

12444
10:47:31,913 --> 10:47:33,915
CHILDREN IN TRAILERS AND SO ON. THIS

12445
10:47:33,915 --> 10:47:36,918
IS A DEFINITE BENEFIT FOR GROWING SEGMENT OF

12446
10:47:36,918 --> 10:47:39,918
THE COMMUNITY. I ALSO SUPPORT

12447
10:47:39,921 --> 10:47:41,923
--I WENT ON BIKE TOURS SO

12448
10:47:41,923 --> 10:47:42,924
THIS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. I

12449
10:47:42,924 --> 10:47:45,324
WOULD SAY TWO THINGS,

12450
10:47:45,927 --> 10:47:47,927
ONE, RESPONSE TIMES,

12451
10:47:51,933 --> 10:47:53,933
LOOK AT

12452
10:47:53,935 --> 10:47:54,936
AND IF '17 10, THERE ARE MULTIPLE

12453
10:47:54,936 --> 10:47:56,938
ISSUES ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES. THIS IS NOT THE

12454
10:47:56,938 --> 10:47:57,906
ISSUE HERE. NUMBER TWO, STUDY CAREFULLY

12455
10:47:57,906 --> 10:47:59,906
ROUNDABOUTS FOR THE

12456
10:48:00,909 --> 10:48:02,909
ARLINGTON ROAD

12457
10:48:06,915 --> 10:48:07,916
, LITTLE FALLS

12458
10:48:07,916 --> 10:48:08,917
INTERSECTION, THE HILLANDALE ROAD INTERSECTION

12459
10:48:08,917 --> 10:48:09,918
AND DORSET AVENUE. ROUNDABOUTS REDUCE

12460
10:48:09,918 --> 10:48:11,918
CONFLICTS, REDUCE

12461
10:48:12,921 --> 10:48:14,921
SPEED,

12462
10:48:15,924 --> 10:48:17,926
AND INCREASE ROAD CAPACITY.

12463
10:48:17,926 --> 10:48:18,927
>> THANK YOU. >> THEY SHOULD BE STUDIED

12464
10:48:18,927 --> 10:48:21,930
SERIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK

12465
10:48:21,930 --> 10:48:23,930
YOU. >>

12466
10:48:24,933 --> 10:48:26,933
ANNE?

12467
10:48:26,935 --> 10:48:27,936
>> FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM

12468
10:48:27,936 --> 10:48:29,936
A RESIDENT OF

12469
10:48:30,905 --> 10:48:32,905
50+ YEARS

12470
10:48:33,908 --> 10:48:35,910
BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE

12471
10:48:35,910 --> 10:48:36,911
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IS THE PRIMARY ROUTE

12472
10:48:36,911 --> 10:48:38,913
INTO BETHESDA FROM THIS AREA OF

12473
10:48:38,913 --> 10:48:41,916
THE COUNTY. THE ALTERNATIVES, ASIDE FROM

12474
10:48:41,916 --> 10:48:42,917
TRAVELING THROUGH ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH

12475
10:48:42,917 --> 10:48:44,917
WE KNOW

12476
10:48:45,920 --> 10:48:47,922
ARE NOT DESIRABLE ARE WESTERN

12477
10:48:47,922 --> 10:48:48,923
TO WISCONSIN THROUGH FRIENDSHIP HEIGHTS

12478
10:48:48,923 --> 10:48:51,323
OR RIVER TO GOLDSBORO

12479
10:48:51,926 --> 10:48:54,929
TO BRADLEY. THE LITTLE FALSE PARKWAY

12480
10:48:54,929 --> 10:48:57,929
HAS NOT ONLY BEEN AN

12481
10:48:57,932 --> 10:49:00,332
EXTREMELY SAFE AND EFFICIENT

12482
10:49:02,937 --> 10:49:03,938
TRAIL BUT IT IS ALSO AN ATTRACTIVE ROUTE

12483
10:49:03,938 --> 10:49:05,907
TO BETHESDA. HOWEVER, IT IS NO

12484
10:49:05,907 --> 10:49:06,908
LONGER A SAFE ROUTE. THINK OF AN AORTIC

12485
10:49:06,908 --> 10:49:09,308
ARTERY WITH AN ANEURYSM.

12486
10:49:09,911 --> 10:49:11,913
THE CLOSING OF THE SOUTHBOUND LANES ON

12487
10:49:11,913 --> 10:49:12,914
THE PARKWAY , MODIFICATION OF THE

12488
10:49:12,914 --> 10:49:14,914
NORTHBOUND LANES ,

12489
10:49:15,917 --> 10:49:18,317
HAS CREATED A SITUATION

12490
10:49:18,920 --> 10:49:23,120
WHERE AN ACCIDENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

12491
10:49:24,926 --> 10:49:25,927
, IF IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, IT IS GOING

12492
10:49:25,927 --> 10:49:26,928
TO HAPPEN. ESPECIALLY IN

12493
10:49:26,928 --> 10:49:27,929
THE EVENINGS OR IN BAD WEATHER, YOU

12494
10:49:27,929 --> 10:49:30,965
CAN LITERALLY THINK IN TERMS OF HEAD

12495
10:49:30,965 --> 10:49:31,966
ON OR SIDESWIPE COLLISIONS. IT IS

12496
10:49:31,966 --> 10:49:33,966
A GIVEN.

12497
10:49:34,969 --> 10:49:36,969
WE ALSO TOLD

12498
10:49:37,939 --> 10:49:40,939
ADDRESSING THE LINEAR PARK ISSUE

12499
10:49:40,942 --> 10:49:43,942
BRINGS UP SOME SAFETY CONCERNS.

12500
10:49:43,945 --> 10:49:45,945
AMONG THEM,

12501
10:49:46,948 --> 10:49:47,949
WHERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME

12502
10:49:47,949 --> 10:49:49,951
TO THIS LINEAR PARK GOING TO PARK

12503
10:49:49,951 --> 10:49:51,951
WHEN THEY COME?

12504
10:49:51,953 --> 10:49:52,954
THE BETHESDA POOL PARKING LOT IS USED

12505
10:49:52,954 --> 10:49:54,956
BY THE PATRONS OF THE

12506
10:49:54,956 --> 10:49:59,156
POOL AND THEY OVERFLOW FOR THE POOL

12507
10:50:01,963 --> 10:50:03,963
AT

12508
10:50:03,965 --> 10:50:06,968
THE PARK AND RIDE LOT. WHAT IS LEFT

12509
10:50:06,968 --> 10:50:07,969
IS NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED

12510
10:50:07,969 --> 10:50:10,939
FOR PUBLIC PARKING EVENTS. HOW

12511
10:50:10,939 --> 10:50:12,939
WOULD PEOPLE

12512
10:50:12,941 --> 10:50:13,942
ACCESS THE LINEAR PARK ONE THEY HAVE

12513
10:50:13,942 --> 10:50:14,943
RESOLVED THE PARKING

12514
10:50:14,943 --> 10:50:15,944
PROBLEM? UNLESS THEY ARE ARRIVING

12515
10:50:15,944 --> 10:50:19,544
VIA THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL FROM

12516
10:50:19,948 --> 10:50:21,950
RIVER ROAD THEY WILL NEED TO

12517
10:50:21,950 --> 10:50:25,954
CROSS A TWO LANE ROAD WITH OPPOSING TRAFFIC.

12518
10:50:25,954 --> 10:50:26,955
MAYBE

12519
10:50:26,955 --> 10:50:28,957
AT 25 MILES AN HOUR BUT THAT IS STILL

12520
10:50:28,957 --> 10:50:30,957
25 MILES AN HOUR.

12521
10:50:30,959 --> 10:50:31,960
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WAS DESIGNED

12522
10:50:31,960 --> 10:50:34,360
WITH A MEDIAN SO

12523
10:50:34,963 --> 10:50:35,964
THAT BIKERS AND WALKERS COULD

12524
10:50:35,964 --> 10:50:37,966
SAFELY CROSS THE LANES. THIS IS BEEN DISCUSSED

12525
10:50:37,966 --> 10:50:39,968
AND I WON'T GO ON WITH

12526
10:50:39,968 --> 10:50:40,969
IT. LASTLY, I WANT TO STRONGLY RECOMMEND

12527
10:50:40,969 --> 10:50:42,969
THAT EACH

12528
10:50:43,972 --> 10:50:45,940
OF YOU , PERSONALLY, VISIT THIS SECTION

12529
10:50:45,940 --> 10:50:49,944
OF THE PARKWAY SO THAT YOU CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND

12530
10:50:49,944 --> 10:50:50,945
AND VISUALIZE OUR CONCERNS

12531
10:50:50,945 --> 10:50:54,545
. BY VISITING IT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND

12532
10:50:58,953 --> 10:50:59,954
WHY THE NEW

12533
10:50:59,954 --> 10:51:00,955
CONFIGURATION OF THE LITTLE FALLS

12534
10:51:00,955 --> 10:51:01,956
PARKWAY SHOULD BE ABANDONED AND THE

12535
10:51:01,956 --> 10:51:02,957
PARKWAY RETURNED TO

12536
10:51:02,957 --> 10:51:04,959
ITS ORIGINAL SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL DESIGN.

12537
10:51:04,959 --> 10:51:05,960
IT IS A SAVER CONFIGURATION FOR BIKERS

12538
10:51:05,960 --> 10:51:07,962
AND WALKERS AS WELL AS FOR AUTOMOBILES.

12539
10:51:07,962 --> 10:51:08,963
THE MONIES COULD BE BETTER

12540
10:51:08,963 --> 10:51:11,966
SPENT ENSURING THAT THERE IS A SAFE

12541
10:51:11,966 --> 10:51:13,968
CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL INTERSECTION. THANK

12542
10:51:13,968 --> 10:51:16,368
YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR

12543
10:51:16,971 --> 10:51:18,971
YOUR TESTIMONY.

12544
10:51:21,910 --> 10:51:22,911
CHRISTOPHER DELANEY? >> MR. CHAIRMAN

12545
10:51:22,911 --> 10:51:24,911
AND COMMISSIONERS,

12546
10:51:24,913 --> 10:51:25,914
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDURANCE.

12547
10:51:25,914 --> 10:51:27,916
MY NAME IS CHRIS.

12548
10:51:27,916 --> 10:51:31,953
I'M A RESIDENT OF KENWOOD AND SUBMITTED

12549
10:51:31,953 --> 10:51:33,953
TESTIMONY ABOUT THE

12550
10:51:34,956 --> 10:51:36,956
NCPC.

12551
10:51:37,959 --> 10:51:38,960
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY

12552
10:51:38,960 --> 10:51:40,962
WAS PURCHASED WITH FEDERAL FUNDS. WHAT

12553
10:51:40,962 --> 10:51:43,962
THIS MEANS IS THAT THE

12554
10:51:43,965 --> 10:51:45,965
NCPC

12555
10:51:45,967 --> 10:51:46,968
HAS A COMPREHENSIVE APPROVAL PROCESS

12556
10:51:46,968 --> 10:51:47,969
THAT MUST BE UNDERTAKEN

12557
10:51:47,969 --> 10:51:50,969
BEFORE ANY PHYSICAL ALTERATIONS HAPPEN

12558
10:51:51,940 --> 10:51:52,941
AT LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. NOW, I UNDERSTAND

12559
10:51:52,941 --> 10:51:53,942
THE PARKS

12560
10:51:53,942 --> 10:51:55,944
IS NOW ALLEGING THAT IT HAS APPROVAL

12561
10:51:55,944 --> 10:51:57,944
FROM NCPC BUT

12562
10:52:00,949 --> 10:52:01,950
UNTIL THAT IS SHOWN IN WRITING, PREFERABLY

12563
10:52:01,950 --> 10:52:02,951
ON NCPC LETTERHEAD, I

12564
10:52:02,951 --> 10:52:06,551
WOULD TREAT THAT ALLEGATION IS UNPROVEN.

12565
10:52:07,956 --> 10:52:08,957
NCPC'S COMPREHENSIVE APPROVAL PROCESS

12566
10:52:08,957 --> 10:52:10,959
IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION

12567
10:52:10,959 --> 10:52:12,961
SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT NOW. THE

12568
10:52:12,961 --> 10:52:13,962
POINT IS THOUGH THAT THE NCPC'S PROCESS

12569
10:52:13,962 --> 10:52:15,962
IS DEFINED

12570
10:52:16,965 --> 10:52:18,965
AND TRANSPARENT.

12571
10:52:19,968 --> 10:52:22,971
WHAT IS NOT TRANSPARENT IS HOW PARKS

12572
10:52:22,971 --> 10:52:23,972
HAS HANDLED THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. NO PARK DIRECTIVE

12573
10:52:23,972 --> 10:52:27,572
HAS EVER BEEN ISSUED CONCERNING THIS

12574
10:52:27,942 --> 10:52:28,943
ACTION AT LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. THAT VIOLATES

12575
10:52:28,943 --> 10:52:30,943
CHAPTER 1 SECTION

12576
10:52:31,946 --> 10:52:32,947
3 OF PARKS OWN RULES AND

12577
10:52:32,947 --> 10:52:34,949
REGULATIONS AND HAS KEPT THEIR ACTIONS

12578
10:52:34,949 --> 10:52:37,949
AWAY FROM OVERSIGHT UNTIL NOW.

12579
10:52:37,952 --> 10:52:39,952
INSTEAD PARKS HAS

12580
10:52:40,955 --> 10:52:43,958
BEEN GOVERNING BY PRESS RELEASE. WE

12581
10:52:43,958 --> 10:52:45,960
OFTEN READ ABOUT WHAT DECISIONS

12582
10:52:45,960 --> 10:52:46,961
PARKS HAS MADE AFTER THE FACT WITH

12583
10:52:46,961 --> 10:52:48,961
NO CHANCE FOR

12584
10:52:49,964 --> 10:52:51,964
MEANINGFUL INPUT.

12585
10:52:52,967 --> 10:52:53,968
IF PARKS CANNOT EVEN BE BOTHERED TO FOLLOW ITS

12586
10:52:53,968 --> 10:52:55,970
OWN PROCEDURES THAN THEY'RE PROBABLY

12587
10:52:55,970 --> 10:52:58,940
SCARED TO DEATH OF BEING HELD TO NCPC

12588
10:52:58,940 --> 10:53:00,940
STANDARDS. I KNOW

12589
10:53:00,942 --> 10:53:01,943
I WOULD BE SCARED TO DEATH TOO IF MY

12590
10:53:01,943 --> 10:53:03,945
MAIN PROJECT WAS PLANNING THE WEEKEND

12591
10:53:03,945 --> 10:53:07,949
HAPPY HOUR FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.

12592
10:53:07,949 --> 10:53:10,952
YOU KNOW WASN'T SCARED OF THE NCPC

12593
10:53:10,952 --> 10:53:13,955
APPROVAL PROCESS? THE D.C. CITY GOVERNMENT, PRINCE

12594
10:53:13,955 --> 10:53:17,555
GEORGE'S COUNTY, AND NUMEROUS FEDERAL AGENCIES.

12595
10:53:30,972 --> 10:53:31,973
NCPC HAS REVIEWED NUMEROUS PROJECTS OVER

12596
10:53:31,973 --> 10:53:33,975
THE YEARS. I LISTEN

12597
10:53:33,975 --> 10:53:34,976
TO A FEW OF THE PROJECTS IN MY WRITTEN TESTIMONY

12598
10:53:34,976 --> 10:53:36,978
BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE

12599
10:53:36,978 --> 10:53:37,979
OF THOSE. IT WAS A PROJECT FOR STORM

12600
10:53:37,979 --> 10:53:38,980
WATER MANAGEMENT POND THAT THE MARYLAND NATIONAL

12601
10:53:38,980 --> 10:53:40,982
CAPITAL PARK AND PLANNING COMMISSION

12602
10:53:40,982 --> 10:53:41,983
SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY TO

12603
10:53:41,983 --> 10:53:43,985
NCPC FOR APPROVAL. THE NCPC PROCESS

12604
10:53:43,985 --> 10:53:45,987
WAS FOLLOWED, THE PLAN WAS APPROVED, AND THEN

12605
10:53:45,987 --> 10:53:49,587
WORK WAS UNDERTAKEN AFTER THE APPROVAL.

12606
10:53:49,991 --> 10:53:50,992
HEAR PARKS HAS ALREADY STARTED WORK AT

12607
10:53:50,992 --> 10:53:51,993
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WITHOUT GETTING

12608
10:53:51,993 --> 10:53:52,994
NCPC'S APPROVAL OR EVEN HAVING ANY

12609
10:53:52,994 --> 10:53:53,995
SORT OF FINAL PLAN.

12610
10:53:53,995 --> 10:53:55,997
PARKS HASN'T EVEN SHARED ITS FINAL

12611
10:53:55,997 --> 10:53:57,997
PLAN WITH YOU.

12612
10:53:57,999 --> 10:53:59,000
IT'S EMBARRASSING TO ME THAT EVERYONE

12613
10:53:59,000 --> 10:54:01,400
ELSE CAN FOLLOW NCPC'S

12614
10:54:02,300 --> 10:54:04,300
PROCESS

12615
10:54:04,972 --> 10:54:06,972
,

12616
10:54:06,974 --> 10:54:07,975
EXCEPT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY. IT'S

12617
10:54:07,975 --> 10:54:09,977
NOT SURPRISING THAT PARKS WOULD TREAT THE NCPC

12618
10:54:09,977 --> 10:54:10,978
AS IT HAS TREATED US, LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

12619
10:54:10,978 --> 10:54:12,980
PARKS DEVOTED ONLY ONE PARAGRAPH TO THIS

12620
10:54:12,980 --> 10:54:13,981
TOPIC IN ITS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU

12621
10:54:13,981 --> 10:54:15,981
AND THAT PARAGRAPH

12622
10:54:16,984 --> 10:54:18,986
CONTAINED A BUNCH OF EMPTY BUZZWORDS.

12623
10:54:18,986 --> 10:54:19,987
DEMAND PROOF FROM PARKS THAT IT HAS

12624
10:54:19,987 --> 10:54:21,987
NCPC APPROVAL

12625
10:54:25,993 --> 10:54:28,996
, UNTIL THEN I ASK YOU TO DENY PARKS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.

12626
10:54:28,996 --> 10:54:31,996
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR

12627
10:54:31,999 --> 10:54:33,999
YOUR TESTIMONY.

12628
10:54:36,300 --> 10:54:40,203
WE HAVE TWO MORE IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

12629
10:54:41,976 --> 10:54:43,976
MARSHA AND DAVID.

12630
10:54:44,979 --> 10:54:47,379
THEN WE HAVE TEAMS.

12631
10:55:06,000 --> 10:55:08,200
>>> I LIVE IN BETHESDA. I APPRECIATE

12632
10:55:08,200 --> 10:55:09,300
THE FACT YOU ARE STILL LISTENING TO

12633
10:55:09,300 --> 10:55:11,300
US. AT

12634
10:55:11,973 --> 10:55:13,975
LEAST I HOPE SO.

12635
10:55:13,975 --> 10:55:14,976
I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN TO SEVERAL OF YOU AND

12636
10:55:14,976 --> 10:55:17,976
I HAVE SUBMITTED WRITTEN TESTIMONY.

12637
10:55:20,982 --> 10:55:21,983
I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL

12638
10:55:21,983 --> 10:55:22,984
THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THE PARKS

12639
10:55:22,984 --> 10:55:27,210
DEPARTMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU

12640
10:55:27,210 --> 10:55:30,240
THREE REASONS. ONE, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE

12641
10:55:30,240 --> 10:55:32,260
TO BE RESTRICTING TRAFFIC

12642
10:55:32,260 --> 10:55:33,270
ON CRITICAL LANE BETWEEN THE MASSACHUSETTS

12643
10:55:33,270 --> 10:55:35,270
AVENUE CORE DOOR.

12644
10:55:35,290 --> 10:55:36,300
I LIVE OFF OF MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE.

12645
10:55:36,300 --> 10:55:38,300
AND

12646
10:55:39,330 --> 10:55:41,330
DOWNTOWN BETHESDA. THE

12647
10:55:42,360 --> 10:55:44,436
VERY SAME TIME, THAT

12648
10:55:45,600 --> 10:55:48,900
MOVE IS A FOOT TO INCREASE HOUSING DENSITY WHICH

12649
10:55:48,900 --> 10:55:50,110
IS IS AGREED WE NEED.

12650
10:55:50,110 --> 10:55:51,120
BOTH IN BETHESDA AND IN WESTPORT.

12651
10:55:51,120 --> 10:55:53,120
2,

12652
10:55:53,140 --> 10:55:54,150
YOU HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM PARKS

12653
10:55:54,150 --> 10:55:56,150
THE TRAFFIC

12654
10:55:57,180 --> 10:55:59,418
IS IN A PROBLEM.

12655
10:56:02,230 --> 10:56:03,240
OTHERS WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PROPOSED CONFIGURATION IMPROVED

12656
10:56:03,240 --> 10:56:04,250
SAFETY FOR

12657
10:56:04,250 --> 10:56:06,270
THOSE USING THE CAPITAL TRAIL. YOU

12658
10:56:06,270 --> 10:56:08,270
HAVE HEARD THAT.

12659
10:56:08,290 --> 10:56:09,300
WELL IF TRAFFIC IS NOT A PROBLEM,

12660
10:56:09,300 --> 10:56:11,300
WHY ARE

12661
10:56:12,330 --> 10:56:14,330
THERE BACKUPS?

12662
10:56:14,350 --> 10:56:15,360
NOT JUST DURING RUSH HOUR BUT IN MIDAFTERNOON.

12663
10:56:15,360 --> 10:56:17,360
BACKUPS CREATE

12664
10:56:18,500 --> 10:56:20,500
SAFETY PROBLEMS AT

12665
10:56:20,700 --> 10:56:21,800
THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL CROSSING

12666
10:56:21,800 --> 10:56:23,800
AS YOU

12667
10:56:23,100 --> 10:56:24,110
HAVE HEARD. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE

12668
10:56:24,110 --> 10:56:26,110
TO GO

12669
10:56:27,140 --> 10:56:30,170
OFF OF THE RECORD SO AS TO COUNTER SOME

12670
10:56:30,170 --> 10:56:33,200
OF WHAT I'M HEARING IN INNUENDO.

12671
10:56:33,200 --> 10:56:35,220
I WANT CYCLISTS AND

12672
10:56:35,220 --> 10:56:36,230
PEDESTRIANS USING THE TRAIL TO BE SAFE.

12673
10:56:36,230 --> 10:56:38,423
I USED THE TRAIL.

12674
10:56:39,260 --> 10:56:41,260
NOW,

12675
10:56:42,290 --> 10:56:45,290
IF THERE ARE BACKUPS NOW

12676
10:56:46,330 --> 10:56:48,350
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EVEN MORE PEOPLE

12677
10:56:48,350 --> 10:56:51,380
RETURN TO WORK AND THERE ARE SEVERAL

12678
10:56:51,380 --> 10:56:53,380
THOUSAND ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS

12679
10:56:54,800 --> 10:56:55,900
? THERE IS MORE RIGOROUS ATTENTION

12680
10:56:55,900 --> 10:56:57,409
REQUIRED FOR TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS.

12681
10:57:00,140 --> 10:57:02,140
THREE,

12682
10:57:03,170 --> 10:57:06,200
WHAT IS THE POINT OF DISRUPTING A FUNCTIONING

12683
10:57:06,200 --> 10:57:09,230
ROADWAY FOR HALF AN ACRE OF RECREATION SPACE?

12684
10:57:09,230 --> 10:57:12,230
IF YOU USE THE PARKWAY

12685
10:57:12,260 --> 10:57:14,260
WHICH I,

12686
10:57:15,290 --> 10:57:18,320
YOU WILL KNOW THAT EVEN SEEING ONE OR TWO PEOPLE

12687
10:57:18,320 --> 10:57:20,432
IN THE CLOSED AREA

12688
10:57:21,350 --> 10:57:23,350
IS UNUSUAL.

12689
10:57:23,370 --> 10:57:24,380
AND I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING THAT THERE

12690
10:57:24,380 --> 10:57:26,400
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

12691
10:57:26,400 --> 10:57:27,410
USE IT ALL THE TIME. I HAVE USED THE

12692
10:57:27,410 --> 10:57:30,440
PARKWAY AT VARIOUS TIMES. I HAVE NOT

12693
10:57:30,440 --> 10:57:32,440
SEEN THEM. FURTHER,

12694
10:57:33,470 --> 10:57:37,247
PARKS SAID HE DOES NOT DO TRAFFIC

12695
10:57:44,580 --> 10:57:45,590
IT DOES PARKS. AND FURTHER INCITES

12696
10:57:45,590 --> 10:57:46,600
THE NEED TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR RECREATION SPACE FOR

12697
10:57:46,600 --> 10:57:48,620
WHAT IT ESTIMATES TO BE PROXIMATELY

12698
10:57:48,620 --> 10:57:51,650
40% OF WITH US THE RESIDENCE YET LACKING YARDS. THAT IS AN ADMIRABLE

12699
10:57:51,650 --> 10:57:54,680
GOAL. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THE

12700
10:57:54,680 --> 10:57:57,710
NEW 3.3 ACRE PARK WHICH IS GOING IN BEHIND THE FARM

12701
10:57:57,710 --> 10:57:59,400
WOMEN'S MARKET ADJACENT TO MANY OF THE

12702
10:57:59,400 --> 10:58:02,400
NEW HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS IN BETHESDA.

12703
10:58:03,440 --> 10:58:06,440
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR

12704
10:58:06,470 --> 10:58:09,470
YOUR TESTIMONY. >> MR. WOODWORTH. >> IT

12705
10:58:09,500 --> 10:58:12,530
IS GREAT TO BE HERE. I LIVE IN

12706
10:58:12,530 --> 10:58:14,550
MONTGOMERY VILLAGE. I VISIT THE AREA

12707
10:58:14,550 --> 10:58:15,560
OCCASIONALLY FOR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS.

12708
10:58:15,560 --> 10:58:17,456
I'VE ALSO BEEN UNDER

12709
10:58:18,590 --> 10:58:20,610
CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL. I'VE BEEN A LITTLE

12710
10:58:20,610 --> 10:58:22,630
FALSE PARKWAY. HER YOUNGER BROTHER AND

12711
10:58:22,630 --> 10:58:24,463
YOUNGER SISTER HAVE BEEN

12712
10:58:25,660 --> 10:58:27,660
BIKED IT

12713
10:58:27,680 --> 10:58:28,690
AND THE AREA PROVIDES A GREAT RELEASE

12714
10:58:28,690 --> 10:58:29,700
FROM THE SURROUNDING

12715
10:58:29,700 --> 10:58:31,720
SUBURBAN AREAS. I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT

12716
10:58:31,720 --> 10:58:33,400
OF THE PILOT PROJECT.

12717
10:58:33,400 --> 10:58:34,410
AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY BOTH TECHNICALLY

12718
10:58:34,410 --> 10:58:36,410
AND

12719
10:58:36,430 --> 10:58:40,470
SUBJECTIVELY. FIRST OFF, THE D.O.T.

12720
10:58:40,470 --> 10:58:43,470
HAS CONCLUDED THE TRAFFIC FLOW

12721
10:58:45,520 --> 10:58:46,530
IS AT AN ACCEPTABLE SPEED ON AVERAGE I BELIEVE

12722
10:58:46,530 --> 10:58:47,540
IT IS 18 TO

12723
10:58:47,540 --> 10:58:49,560
20 MILES PER HOUR. THE D.O.T. HAS

12724
10:58:49,560 --> 10:58:52,590
ALSO CONCLUDED THE PARKWAY TRAFFIC HAS

12725
10:58:52,590 --> 10:58:53,600
PARKWAY TRAFFIC HAS BEEN ON

12726
10:58:53,600 --> 10:58:55,620
THE DECLINE EVER SINCE THE 2000'S.

12727
10:58:55,620 --> 10:58:56,630
ANYWAY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

12728
10:58:56,630 --> 10:58:58,650
THE PANDEMIC. PLUS THERE ARE MANY

12729
10:58:58,650 --> 10:59:00,650
PEOPLE WHO

12730
10:59:01,680 --> 10:59:02,690
TELEWORK. I HAVE

12731
10:59:02,690 --> 10:59:04,710
NOT HAD TO GO INTO AN OFFICE IN ALMOST

12732
10:59:04,710 --> 10:59:05,390
4 YEARS. D.O.T.

12733
10:59:05,390 --> 10:59:07,410
HAS FOUND THAT THE INCREASE IN CUT

12734
10:59:07,410 --> 10:59:09,441
THROUGH TRAFFIC TO SURROUNDING

12735
10:59:10,440 --> 10:59:13,470
NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS IS NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT.

12736
10:59:13,470 --> 10:59:14,480
THOUGH AS A FATHER WHO LIVES NEAR

12737
10:59:14,480 --> 10:59:16,500
A BUSY ROAD I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO

12738
10:59:16,500 --> 10:59:18,520
THAT CONCERN. THERE ARE

12739
10:59:18,520 --> 10:59:21,652
1 MILLION CHEAP WAYS THAT YOU CAN

12740
10:59:22,560 --> 10:59:23,570
ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC ON NEARBY

12741
10:59:23,570 --> 10:59:25,920
NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS. YOU CAN PUT SPEED

12742
10:59:25,920 --> 10:59:27,940
BUMPS AND PICK YOU COULD

12743
10:59:27,940 --> 10:59:28,950
ADD SIDEWALKS. SOME OF THE ROADS DON'T

12744
10:59:28,950 --> 10:59:30,950
HAVE

12745
10:59:31,980 --> 10:59:34,101
SIDEWALKS. PUT TRAFFIC CONES ARE WATERFIELD BARRIERS.

12746
10:59:34,101 --> 10:59:37,101
YOU CAN SLIM DOWN LANES.

12747
10:59:37,104 --> 10:59:38,105
YOU COULD DO A BUNCH OF STUFF TO

12748
10:59:38,105 --> 10:59:39,730
MAKE THOSE RESIDENTIAL ROADS SAFER.

12749
10:59:39,730 --> 10:59:40,740
NONE OF THOSE FIRST OFF THOSE ARE

12750
10:59:40,740 --> 10:59:42,740
CHEAP. SECOND OFF

12751
10:59:43,770 --> 10:59:44,780
EXCEPT THE SIDEWALKS.

12752
10:59:44,780 --> 10:59:46,800
SECOND OFF THEY DON'T INVOLVE TAKING

12753
10:59:46,800 --> 10:59:48,480
AWAY THE BIKE LANES.

12754
10:59:49,830 --> 10:59:51,483
ON LITTLE FALSE PARKWAY.

12755
10:59:52,860 --> 10:59:53,870
ALSO IT IS CHEAPER

12756
10:59:53,870 --> 10:59:55,890
BECAUSE BIKES ARE MUCH LIGHTER THAN

12757
10:59:55,890 --> 10:59:57,890
CARS AND STUFF.

12758
10:59:58,920 --> 10:59:59,930
IN THE LONG RUN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE

12759
10:59:59,930 --> 11:00:01,950
TO PAVE THE STATE OF SIDE OF THE ROAD

12760
11:00:01,950 --> 11:00:03,970
USED BY BIKES MUCH LESS.

12761
11:00:03,970 --> 11:00:04,980
SUBJECTIVE REASONS THAT THE PILOT

12762
11:00:04,980 --> 11:00:06,980
SHOULD

12763
11:00:07,101 --> 11:00:08,102
BECOME PERMANENT. THE BIKE

12764
11:00:08,102 --> 11:00:10,104
LANES PROVIDE AN ESSENTIAL CONNECTOR

12765
11:00:10,104 --> 11:00:12,104
FROM THE

12766
11:00:13,740 --> 11:00:15,740
NEIGHBORHOOD

12767
11:00:16,760 --> 11:00:18,476
HOUSES TO DOWNTOWN BETHESDA.

12768
11:00:28,550 --> 11:00:29,560
I WOULD BET A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU SURVEYED

12769
11:00:29,560 --> 11:00:30,570
ALL THE CHILDREN OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE

12770
11:00:30,570 --> 11:00:31,580
THE BIKE LANES AND ASKED THEM WHETHER

12771
11:00:31,580 --> 11:00:32,590
OR NOT THEY WOULD

12772
11:00:32,590 --> 11:00:33,600
LIKE TO HAVE EASY ACCESS TO DOWNTOWN

12773
11:00:33,600 --> 11:00:34,610
BETHESDA THEY WOULD BE OVERWHELMINGLY

12774
11:00:34,610 --> 11:00:35,620
IN FAVOR OF IT. I HAVE

12775
11:00:35,620 --> 11:00:36,630
SPENT YEARS WORKING WITH YOUTH IN

12776
11:00:36,630 --> 11:00:37,640
THE COUNTY AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW

12777
11:00:37,640 --> 11:00:38,650
THEY ARE

12778
11:00:38,650 --> 11:00:39,660
CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A MENTAL HEALTH

12779
11:00:39,660 --> 11:00:40,670
CRISIS. LARGE NUMBERS OF THEM ARE

12780
11:00:40,670 --> 11:00:42,670
DELAYING GETTING THEIR

12781
11:00:42,690 --> 11:00:43,700
DRIVER'S LICENSES. SINCE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT FAVORS CARS ABOVE ALL

12782
11:00:43,700 --> 11:00:44,710
ELSE IN

12783
11:00:44,710 --> 11:00:46,400
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS

12784
11:00:46,400 --> 11:00:48,400
IN THE COUNTY

12785
11:00:50,440 --> 11:00:51,450
SPENT TOO MUCH TIME COOPED UP IN THE

12786
11:00:51,450 --> 11:00:52,460
BASEMENTS OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES

12787
11:00:52,460 --> 11:00:53,470
ISOLATED FROM THEIR FRIENDS AND

12788
11:00:53,470 --> 11:00:55,490
GLUED TO THEIR SCREENS. THEY GET OUT TO

12789
11:00:55,490 --> 11:00:58,490
ALL KIND OF RISKY BEHAVIOR.

12790
11:01:01,550 --> 11:01:02,560
HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND GET

12791
11:01:02,560 --> 11:01:03,570
FRESH AIR AND EXERCISE SOCIALIZE WITH

12792
11:01:03,570 --> 11:01:04,580
FRIENDS AND DOWNTOWN BETHESDA WILL

12793
11:01:04,580 --> 11:01:05,590
DO WONDERS FOR THESE KIDS WELL-BEING. I

12794
11:01:05,590 --> 11:01:06,600
DO NOT SEE THESE KIDS REPRESENTED

12795
11:01:06,600 --> 11:01:07,610
IN THIS HEARING. I DO NOT SEE THEM

12796
11:01:07,610 --> 11:01:08,620
REPRESENTED IN ALL

12797
11:01:08,620 --> 11:01:10,640
THE COMPLAINTS YOU ARE HEARING. I'M

12798
11:01:10,640 --> 11:01:13,670
OUT OF TOWN. DO THE RIGHT THING.

12799
11:01:13,670 --> 11:01:16,700
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. >>

12800
11:01:16,700 --> 11:01:18,720
THANK YOU. WE SHIPPED TWO PEOPLE WHO

12801
11:01:18,720 --> 11:01:19,390
ARE ON TEAMS. WE START WITH PETER GRAY.

12802
11:01:19,390 --> 11:01:21,390
FROM THE

12803
11:01:22,420 --> 11:01:24,420
WASHINGTON AREA

12804
11:01:25,790 --> 11:01:27,790
ASSOCIATION.

12805
11:01:31,850 --> 11:01:33,850
IF YOU COULD

12806
11:01:34,880 --> 11:01:36,880
PROCEED PLEASE. >> YES

12807
11:01:37,910 --> 11:01:40,940
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS

12808
11:01:40,940 --> 11:01:42,494
PETER GRAY. I REPRESENT

12809
11:01:43,970 --> 11:01:45,990
THE CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>

12810
11:01:45,990 --> 11:01:49,103
WE ARE JUST SAYING YOU GET FIVE MINUTES. >> GREAT.

12811
11:01:49,103 --> 11:01:51,503
I REPRESENT THE 1300 PLUS

12812
11:01:52,720 --> 11:01:54,720
MEMBERS WHO LIVE

12813
11:01:55,750 --> 11:01:57,770
IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. AND I'M

12814
11:01:57,770 --> 11:02:01,810
HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT

12815
11:02:01,810 --> 11:02:03,830
THE PROPOSED PLAN BY THE

12816
11:02:03,830 --> 11:02:04,840
PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND THE POINT THAT I

12817
11:02:04,840 --> 11:02:06,840
WANT TO

12818
11:02:07,870 --> 11:02:10,900
MAKE TONIGHT AND IT IS REALLY DISTRESSING TO ME

12819
11:02:10,900 --> 11:02:13,930
TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD

12820
11:02:13,930 --> 11:02:15,950
ACTING IN A WAY THAT

12821
11:02:15,950 --> 11:02:19,990
I JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND. HOW DO WE HAVE

12822
11:02:19,990 --> 11:02:21,101
FAITH IN OUR GOVERNMENT FOR ALL

12823
11:02:21,101 --> 11:02:22,102
THESE YEARS TO DO THE RIGHT THING,

12824
11:02:22,102 --> 11:02:24,102
TO BE

12825
11:02:24,104 --> 11:02:27,704
HONEST, TO BE TRANSPARENT AND SUDDENLY

12826
11:02:28,750 --> 11:02:30,750
WHAT I

12827
11:02:30,770 --> 11:02:31,780
HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO

12828
11:02:31,780 --> 11:02:33,800
THIS IS THAT THEY ARE OPPOSED TO

12829
11:02:33,800 --> 11:02:34,810
THE FACTS? PARKS AND NCDOT HAVE DONE

12830
11:02:34,810 --> 11:02:36,810
TRAFFIC STUDIES.

12831
11:02:37,840 --> 11:02:40,870
THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES HAVE SHOWN CLEARLY

12832
11:02:40,870 --> 11:02:42,890
THAT THE AMOUNT OF

12833
11:02:42,890 --> 11:02:45,890
TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS THE MINIMUS.

12834
11:02:48,950 --> 11:02:49,960
I UNDERSTAND FOR PEOPLE WHO DRIVE ON THE

12835
11:02:49,960 --> 11:02:50,970
ROAD ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT

12836
11:02:50,970 --> 11:02:52,990
CHANGING THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROAD

12837
11:02:52,990 --> 11:02:53,100
IS SOMETHING THAT WAS UPSETTING TO THEM.

12838
11:02:53,100 --> 11:02:55,102
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED A FEW

12839
11:02:55,102 --> 11:02:57,102
YEARS AGO.

12840
11:02:57,104 --> 11:02:58,105
AND IT HAPPENED FOR A REASON THAT

12841
11:02:58,105 --> 11:03:00,505
IS CLEAR TO ALL.

12842
11:03:01,750 --> 11:03:02,760
SOMEBODY DIED AT THIS

12843
11:03:02,760 --> 11:03:04,780
INTERSECTION. AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF

12844
11:03:04,780 --> 11:03:07,810
THE MULTI-LANE THREAT THAT WAS CAUSED BY

12845
11:03:07,810 --> 11:03:09,830
ONE LANE OF CARS STOPPING

12846
11:03:09,830 --> 11:03:10,840
AND THE OTHER ONE NOT WE KNOW WHAT THE

12847
11:03:10,840 --> 11:03:12,840
PROBLEM IS.

12848
11:03:13,870 --> 11:03:16,870
THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN ASSESSED.

12849
11:03:16,900 --> 11:03:18,920
THE CHANGE IN THE ROAD

12850
11:03:18,920 --> 11:03:22,892
HAS CLEARLY CREATED A MUCH SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR

12851
11:03:24,131 --> 11:03:25,132
WALKERS BIKERS PEOPLE WITH WHEELCHAIRS

12852
11:03:25,132 --> 11:03:28,135
AND OTHER MOBILITY DEVICES TO CROSS.

12853
11:03:28,135 --> 11:03:31,135
THE LITTLE FALSE PARKWAY ON

12854
11:03:31,138 --> 11:03:34,108
THE TRAIL. I JUST URGE THE

12855
11:03:34,108 --> 11:03:36,108
PLANNING BOARD

12856
11:03:36,110 --> 11:03:37,111
TO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, DON'T BE

12857
11:03:37,111 --> 11:03:39,111
SUBJECT TO JUST

12858
11:03:40,114 --> 11:03:41,115
APPEAR A MOTION OF WHAT YOU

12859
11:03:41,115 --> 11:03:43,117
ARE HEARING FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE

12860
11:03:43,117 --> 11:03:46,120
IN THE ROME. LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS. AND LET'S

12861
11:03:46,120 --> 11:03:49,123
ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE RECONFIGURATION OF

12862
11:03:49,123 --> 11:03:51,125
THE ROAD HAS MADE

12863
11:03:51,125 --> 11:03:52,126
THINGS SAFER FOR PEOPLE USING THE TRAIL.

12864
11:03:52,126 --> 11:03:54,126
YOU CAN

12865
11:03:55,129 --> 11:03:58,132
DEBATE WHETHER I ALSO THINK THAT

12866
11:03:58,132 --> 11:04:00,532
CREATING MORE OPEN PARK

12867
11:04:01,135 --> 11:04:04,135
SPACE IS A REAL BENEFIT

12868
11:04:04,138 --> 11:04:06,106
. NOT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE IN

12869
11:04:06,106 --> 11:04:07,107
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

12870
11:04:07,107 --> 11:04:10,110
COMING FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

12871
11:04:10,110 --> 11:04:13,113
AND, I THINK THAT IT BEHOOVES

12872
11:04:13,113 --> 11:04:16,116
THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE VERY CLEAR

12873
11:04:16,116 --> 11:04:19,119
THAT WE ARE ON THE SIDE

12874
11:04:19,119 --> 11:04:22,122
OF DATA . WE ARE ON THE SIDE

12875
11:04:22,122 --> 11:04:25,722
OF FACTS. AND WE KNOW THAT

12876
11:04:28,128 --> 11:04:30,130
THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SAFEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR PEOPLE

12877
11:04:30,130 --> 11:04:32,132
WHO USE THE TRAIL. WITHOUT ACTUALLY CAUSING

12878
11:04:32,132 --> 11:04:34,132
ANY REAL HARM

12879
11:04:35,135 --> 11:04:36,136
IN THE FORM OF CONGESTION.

12880
11:04:36,136 --> 11:04:40,336
TO PEOPLE WHO DRIVE ON THE PARKWAY.

12881
11:04:41,108 --> 11:04:42,109
AND SO, I WILL YIELD BACK THE

12882
11:04:42,109 --> 11:04:45,112
REST OF MY TIME. BUT I REALLY HOPE

12883
11:04:45,112 --> 11:04:47,114
THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS ABLE TO FOLLOW

12884
11:04:47,114 --> 11:04:49,114
THE FACTS

12885
11:04:50,117 --> 11:04:52,119
AND ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE

12886
11:04:52,119 --> 11:04:55,122
PARKS DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>

12887
11:04:55,122 --> 11:04:59,126
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. DANIEL --

12888
11:04:59,126 --> 11:05:01,126
SARAH

12889
11:05:02,129 --> 11:05:04,129
BIKE SAFETY

12890
11:05:05,132 --> 11:05:07,532
MEMORIAL FUND. >> THANK YOU

12891
11:05:08,135 --> 11:05:10,535
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU

12892
11:05:11,138 --> 11:05:14,108
TO PETER FOR THAT PERSUASIVE SPEECH.

12893
11:05:14,108 --> 11:05:16,108
MY NAME

12894
11:05:16,110 --> 11:05:20,114
IS DAN LANG AND KIM. SOME OF YOU WILL KNOW

12895
11:05:20,114 --> 11:05:22,149
MY NAME BECAUSE MY WIFE

12896
11:05:22,149 --> 11:05:23,150
WAS KILLED ON RIVER ROAD LAST YEAR.

12897
11:05:23,150 --> 11:05:25,150
IN AUGUST.

12898
11:05:26,153 --> 11:05:29,153
WHILE SHE WAS BIKING TO

12899
11:05:31,158 --> 11:05:32,159
CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL FROM OUR CHILDREN'S

12900
11:05:32,159 --> 11:05:34,159
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN

12901
11:05:34,161 --> 11:05:38,165
WOOD ACRES. SINCE HER DEATH I HAVE DEDICATED

12902
11:05:38,165 --> 11:05:40,165
MY FREE TIME

12903
11:05:41,168 --> 11:05:43,170
AND MORE TO TRY

12904
11:05:43,170 --> 11:05:46,770
TO INCREASE ROAD SAFETY AROUND BETHESDA

12905
11:05:47,141 --> 11:05:48,142
IN WASHINGTON DC AND

12906
11:05:48,142 --> 11:05:52,342
ITS AREA AND ALSO THE NATION. AND

12907
11:05:53,147 --> 11:05:56,147
I SUPPORT THESE CHANGES TO

12908
11:05:56,150 --> 11:05:58,550
RIVER ROAD. FOR A

12909
11:05:59,153 --> 11:06:02,153
SIMPLE REASON. THEY MAKE RIVER

12910
11:06:02,156 --> 11:06:04,156
ROAD SAFER. ONE

12911
11:06:05,159 --> 11:06:06,160
OF THE

12912
11:06:06,160 --> 11:06:08,162
KEY LESSONS THAT I HAVE LEARNED IN

12913
11:06:08,162 --> 11:06:10,162
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

12914
11:06:10,164 --> 11:06:14,168
HOW SAFETY WORKS IS THAT SLOWER SPEEDS

12915
11:06:14,168 --> 11:06:16,170
SAVE LIVES. AND TO THE NEIGHBOR

12916
11:06:16,170 --> 11:06:17,171
THAT SAID HE HAD BEEN ASKED BY HIS

12917
11:06:17,171 --> 11:06:19,171
NEIGHBORS WHY

12918
11:06:20,140 --> 11:06:23,140
THESE CHANGES WERE MADE, I

12919
11:06:23,143 --> 11:06:26,743
WOULD SIMPLY REQUEST THAT HE RESPOND

12920
11:06:29,149 --> 11:06:30,150
THAT WE MADE THESE CHANGES THAT THESE CHANGES

12921
11:06:30,150 --> 11:06:32,152
WERE NECESSARY BECAUSE SOMEONE DIED THERE.

12922
11:06:32,152 --> 11:06:35,155
SOMEONE WITH A FAMILY. SOMEONE WITH

12923
11:06:35,155 --> 11:06:37,555
A FUTURE. SOMEONE WITH

12924
11:06:38,158 --> 11:06:40,158
MAKING HUGE CONTRIBUTIONS

12925
11:06:41,161 --> 11:06:43,561
TO OUR SOCIETY. THE

12926
11:06:44,164 --> 11:06:46,564
CHANGES WERE MADE FOR

12927
11:06:47,167 --> 11:06:49,167
THAT REASON.

12928
11:06:50,170 --> 11:06:52,139
AND THEY HAVE HELPED ALSO OPEN UP

12929
11:06:52,139 --> 11:06:53,140
SPACE FOR A PARK WHICH IS GREAT. THAT

12930
11:06:53,140 --> 11:06:54,141
IS THE

12931
11:06:54,141 --> 11:06:56,143
OTHER SECOND THE SECOND POINT I WOULD

12932
11:06:56,143 --> 11:06:59,743
LIKE TO MAKE WHICH IS THAT,

12933
11:07:02,149 --> 11:07:04,151
WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW

12934
11:07:04,151 --> 11:07:05,152
OUR SOCIETY IS ENGINEERED. AND IF WE

12935
11:07:05,152 --> 11:07:07,152
ENGINEER OUR SOCIETY

12936
11:07:08,155 --> 11:07:11,158
FOR CARS PEOPLE WILL DRIVE CARS.

12937
11:07:11,158 --> 11:07:14,161
IF WE ENGINEERED OUR SOCIETY FOR

12938
11:07:14,161 --> 11:07:17,161
SAFE STREETS AND FOR PARKS,

12939
11:07:17,164 --> 11:07:18,165
FOR CHILDREN

12940
11:07:18,165 --> 11:07:20,167
WHO RIDE BIKES, FOR FAMILIES WE WILL FIND

12941
11:07:20,167 --> 11:07:22,567
MORE PEOPLE RIDING BIKES

12942
11:07:23,203 --> 11:07:24,204
. WE WILL FIND MORE FAMILIES ON THE

12943
11:07:24,204 --> 11:07:26,173
STREETS AND ENJOYING THEM. I WAS STRUCK

12944
11:07:26,173 --> 11:07:28,173
THIS WEEKEND BY

12945
11:07:28,175 --> 11:07:29,176
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE IN

12946
11:07:29,176 --> 11:07:30,177
THE

12947
11:07:30,177 --> 11:07:32,179
KENWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE WERE

12948
11:07:32,179 --> 11:07:36,979
VERY FEW CARS THEY ARE. IT WAS GORGEOUS.

12949
11:07:37,184 --> 11:07:38,185
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. AND I THINK THE RESIDENCE

12950
11:07:38,185 --> 11:07:40,187
FOR OPENING UP THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

12951
11:07:40,187 --> 11:07:41,188
AND MAKING IT CLEAR THAT CARS WERE

12952
11:07:41,188 --> 11:07:43,188
NOT WELCOME.

12953
11:07:43,190 --> 11:07:44,191
IT WAS ACTUALLY A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL

12954
11:07:44,191 --> 11:07:46,591
SCENE. AND I'M CONFIDENT

12955
11:07:47,194 --> 11:07:50,197
THE SAME WOULD HAPPEN ON RIVER ROAD

12956
11:07:50,197 --> 11:07:52,199
THE PARK WITH THE TRACTION THAT FAMILIES

12957
11:07:52,199 --> 11:07:53,200
WOULD USE. I'M ACTUALLY ABSOLUTELY

12958
11:07:53,200 --> 11:07:55,200
CONFIDENT IN IT.

12959
11:07:56,203 --> 11:07:59,172
LISTEN I AM A DRIVER.

12960
11:07:59,172 --> 11:08:01,174
ALL OF US ARE DRIVERS. AND WE NEED TO

12961
11:08:01,174 --> 11:08:05,178
GET FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. BUT,

12962
11:08:05,178 --> 11:08:06,179
WE

12963
11:08:06,179 --> 11:08:07,180
ALSO AGREE THAT THERE ARE CHANGES

12964
11:08:07,180 --> 11:08:08,181
THAT ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MAKE

12965
11:08:08,181 --> 11:08:10,183
OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER. FOR EXAMPLE

12966
11:08:10,183 --> 11:08:11,184
WE STOPPED AT BUSES TO ALLOW THE SCHOOLCHILDREN

12967
11:08:11,184 --> 11:08:13,184
TO CROSS THE

12968
11:08:14,187 --> 11:08:17,190
ROAD. WE SLOWED DOWN FOR SCHOOL ZONES.

12969
11:08:17,190 --> 11:08:18,191
BECAUSE WE

12970
11:08:18,191 --> 11:08:20,193
CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND THEIR

12971
11:08:20,193 --> 11:08:23,196
SAFETY THERE. TO MEET THESE CHANGES ARE JUST

12972
11:08:23,196 --> 11:08:25,196
LIKE THAT.

12973
11:08:25,198 --> 11:08:26,199
IT IS A SLIGHT INCONVENIENCE FOR SOME DRIVERS

12974
11:08:26,199 --> 11:08:27,200
TO SLOW DOWN

12975
11:08:27,200 --> 11:08:29,202
A LITTLE BIT ON RIVER ROAD. SO THAT

12976
11:08:29,202 --> 11:08:32,172
WE ALL CAN HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

12977
11:08:32,172 --> 11:08:34,172
AGAIN,

12978
11:08:38,178 --> 11:08:39,179
I SUPPORT THE CHANGES AND I URGE THE

12979
11:08:39,179 --> 11:08:40,180
PLANNING BOARD TO LOOK AT THE DATA THAT

12980
11:08:40,180 --> 11:08:41,181
WAS SO CAREFULLY CAREFULLY COLLECTED

12981
11:08:41,181 --> 11:08:43,181
IN THE RUN

12982
11:08:44,184 --> 11:08:47,184
UP TO THIS THESE CHANGES.

12983
11:08:47,187 --> 11:08:48,188
AND TO THINK

12984
11:08:48,188 --> 11:08:49,189
ABOUT WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT

12985
11:08:49,189 --> 11:08:50,190
WE ARE GOING TO CREATE FOR THE FUTURE.

12986
11:08:50,190 --> 11:08:52,190
THANK YOU. >>

12987
11:08:52,192 --> 11:08:55,192
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. >>>

12988
11:08:56,196 --> 11:08:58,196
SOPHIA BLAKE >>

12989
11:08:59,199 --> 11:09:01,199
YES

12990
11:09:01,201 --> 11:09:05,205
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>

12991
11:09:05,205 --> 11:09:07,205
YES >> THANK YOU.

12992
11:09:08,175 --> 11:09:10,175
I'M A LITTLE

12993
11:09:11,178 --> 11:09:14,181
YES THANK YOU I'M SORRY I GUESS

12994
11:09:14,181 --> 11:09:17,184
REALLY SORRY FOR YOUR FOR THE LOSS OF

12995
11:09:17,184 --> 11:09:20,220
YOUR WIFE. I'M SORRY I AM RIGHT AFTER

12996
11:09:20,220 --> 11:09:23,220
YOU. BECAUSE, I AM --

12997
11:09:23,223 --> 11:09:25,223
MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY.

12998
11:09:26,226 --> 11:09:28,626
NYE WANTED I'M NOT

12999
11:09:29,229 --> 11:09:32,232
GOING TO READ MY TESTIMONY. I'M GOING TO JUST

13000
11:09:32,232 --> 11:09:35,235
TRY AND MENTION SOME OF THE

13001
11:09:35,235 --> 11:09:38,205
MOST OBVIOUS POINTS FOR ME.

13002
11:09:38,205 --> 11:09:40,205
WHICH MAKE

13003
11:09:41,174 --> 11:09:44,177
ME OBJECT PARKS PLAN TO CLOSE

13004
11:09:44,177 --> 11:09:46,177
THE TWO LANES.

13005
11:09:47,180 --> 11:09:49,180
I

13006
11:09:50,183 --> 11:09:53,183
DO HAVE TO SAY THAT

13007
11:09:53,186 --> 11:09:54,187
I AM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS DIVERSE IN TERMS

13008
11:09:54,187 --> 11:09:56,189
OF AGE. WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES.

13009
11:09:56,189 --> 11:09:58,589
I LIVE IN --.

13010
11:09:59,192 --> 11:10:02,195
MORE AND MORE YOUNG FAMILIES ARE MOVING

13011
11:10:02,195 --> 11:10:05,198
TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY FAMILY IS

13012
11:10:05,198 --> 11:10:07,198
ALWAYS OUTSIDE

13013
11:10:08,201 --> 11:10:10,201
HIKING, BIKING, WALKING.

13014
11:10:14,174 --> 11:10:16,176
IN FACT MY HUSBAND BELIEVES THAT

13015
11:10:16,176 --> 11:10:17,177
YES CAR SHOULD NOT BE PRIVILEGED AND WE

13016
11:10:17,177 --> 11:10:19,179
SHOULD HAVE MORE GREEN SPACES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

13017
11:10:19,179 --> 11:10:20,180
SO ONE OF MY MAIN OBJECTIONS TO THE

13018
11:10:20,180 --> 11:10:22,580
WAY THIS IS UNFOLDING

13019
11:10:23,183 --> 11:10:25,583
IS THIS ARTIFICIAL DIVISION

13020
11:10:27,187 --> 11:10:29,189
THAT IS BEING CREATED WITHIN COMMUNITIES

13021
11:10:29,189 --> 11:10:32,189
AND BETWEEN COMMUNITIES. BETWEEN PEOPLE

13022
11:10:32,192 --> 11:10:35,195
WHO SUPPORT RHODES VERSUS PEOPLE WHO

13023
11:10:35,195 --> 11:10:37,195
SUPPORT PARKS.

13024
11:10:37,197 --> 11:10:38,198
AND THE MORE I HEAR PEOPLE WHO ARE

13025
11:10:38,198 --> 11:10:41,201
IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT THE MORE I'M

13026
11:10:41,201 --> 11:10:42,202
CONVINCED HOW THIS IS NOT HEADING

13027
11:10:42,202 --> 11:10:44,204
IN THE RIGHT WAY

13028
11:10:44,204 --> 11:10:48,175
AND THE WAY WE ARE HAVING THIS DEBATE.

13029
11:10:48,175 --> 11:10:50,175
ONE

13030
11:10:51,178 --> 11:10:53,180
THE MAIN MY MAIN OBJECTION

13031
11:10:53,180 --> 11:10:57,184
TO THE PILOT PROJECT, BEYONCE SAFETY TRAFFIC

13032
11:10:57,184 --> 11:10:59,184
, IS REALLY

13033
11:11:00,187 --> 11:11:02,187
JUST COMMON SENSE.

13034
11:11:02,189 --> 11:11:05,192
AND I HEARD PREVIOUSLY PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT

13035
11:11:05,192 --> 11:11:08,192
THE JUSTIFICATION OF THESE PLANS.

13036
11:11:09,196 --> 11:11:10,197
AND THE WHOLE SETUP THAT

13037
11:11:10,197 --> 11:11:12,199
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CLOSURE OF

13038
11:11:12,199 --> 11:11:15,199
TWO LANES WHEN WE REALLY

13039
11:11:15,202 --> 11:11:17,602
HAVE NOT DISCUSSED AGREED

13040
11:11:19,206 --> 11:11:21,208
SCENE PLANS AND HAVE REALLY CLARITY

13041
11:11:21,208 --> 11:11:23,210
ON WHAT IS THE PURPOSE

13042
11:11:23,210 --> 11:11:24,211
THAT WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE TWO

13043
11:11:24,211 --> 11:11:26,211
LANES. WHEN I

13044
11:11:27,214 --> 11:11:29,614
HEAR PEOPLE, THE PREVIOUS

13045
11:11:30,217 --> 11:11:32,219
MEMBERS OF THE BIKERS COMMUNITY,

13046
11:11:32,219 --> 11:11:35,819
EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT CLOSING --

13047
11:11:36,223 --> 11:11:38,623
BETWEEN RIVER AND ARLINGTON.

13048
11:11:39,226 --> 11:11:43,230
AND WHAT I WANTED TO REMIND MYSELF

13049
11:11:43,230 --> 11:11:44,231
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT

13050
11:11:44,231 --> 11:11:45,232
THE PROPOSAL FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN EVERYWHERE

13051
11:11:45,232 --> 11:11:47,232
ON

13052
11:11:47,234 --> 11:11:48,235
THE PARKS WEBSITE AND WE HAVE TALKED

13053
11:11:48,235 --> 11:11:50,235
IN THE PRESENTATION

13054
11:11:51,238 --> 11:11:54,207
--IT IS REALLY BETWEEN DORSET

13055
11:11:54,207 --> 11:11:55,208
AND

13056
11:11:55,208 --> 11:11:57,210
ARLINGTON. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

13057
11:11:57,210 --> 11:11:59,212
A SMALL SLIVER OF THE

13058
11:11:59,212 --> 11:12:00,213
LITTLE FALL PARKWAY IN THE MIDDLE

13059
11:12:00,213 --> 11:12:02,213
OF NOWHERE. IN

13060
11:12:02,215 --> 11:12:06,219
THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK. THAT IS PLANNED

13061
11:12:06,219 --> 11:12:08,619
TO BE --PARKWAY BETWEEN

13062
11:12:09,222 --> 11:12:11,222
TWO PARKS. >>

13063
11:12:12,225 --> 11:12:14,625
PLEASE CONCLUDE. >> YES, SO

13064
11:12:15,228 --> 11:12:17,230
I LOVE PARKS. I LOVE

13065
11:12:17,230 --> 11:12:18,231
OUTDOOR SPACES. THE PROPOSED PLAN

13066
11:12:18,231 --> 11:12:20,631
IS NOT GOING TO

13067
11:12:21,234 --> 11:12:23,234
BENEFIT BIKERS.

13068
11:12:23,236 --> 11:12:24,237
THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE WOULD BE

13069
11:12:24,237 --> 11:12:27,207
THROUGH THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL.

13070
11:12:27,207 --> 11:12:29,209
IT WILL BE DANGEROUS. AND IT SERVES NO

13071
11:12:29,209 --> 11:12:30,210
PURPOSE WHATSOEVER. BECAUSE IT IS

13072
11:12:30,210 --> 11:12:32,210
SURROUNDED BY TWO

13073
11:12:32,212 --> 11:12:34,612
FUNCTIONING PARKS. AND TRAILS. >>

13074
11:12:35,215 --> 11:12:39,415
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. BRIAN McGREGOR. >>

13075
11:12:42,222 --> 11:12:44,224
CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES >>

13076
11:12:44,224 --> 11:12:48,424
TERRIFIC. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH

13077
11:12:50,230 --> 11:12:54,234
THE POINTS SOPHIA BLAKE WAS MAKING. REGARDING

13078
11:12:54,234 --> 11:12:56,236
THE COMMONSENSE NATURE OF WHAT

13079
11:12:56,236 --> 11:13:00,207
WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT

13080
11:13:00,207 --> 11:13:03,210
WHERE THE PARK OR THE POTENTIAL PARK

13081
11:13:03,210 --> 11:13:05,610
IS LOCATED, IT IS

13082
11:13:06,213 --> 11:13:07,214
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN

13083
11:13:07,214 --> 11:13:09,216
AWFUL LOT OF EXISTING GREEN SPACE.

13084
11:13:09,216 --> 11:13:12,216
FROM A VALUE ADD PERSPECTIVE,

13085
11:13:14,221 --> 11:13:15,222
WHAT IT ACTUALLY BRINGS TO THE TABLE TO

13086
11:13:15,222 --> 11:13:17,222
CLOSE A

13087
11:13:18,258 --> 11:13:19,259
MAJOR ARTERY DOES

13088
11:13:19,259 --> 11:13:21,261
NOT ENHANCE THE OVERALL CHARACTERISTICS

13089
11:13:21,261 --> 11:13:23,261
FOR THE COMMUNITY.

13090
11:13:24,264 --> 11:13:26,266
I THINK FROM A COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE

13091
11:13:26,266 --> 11:13:30,270
WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM THE VAST MAJORITY

13092
11:13:30,270 --> 11:13:32,272
OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS

13093
11:13:32,272 --> 11:13:35,242
AS WELL AS THE HEADS OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS

13094
11:13:35,242 --> 11:13:36,243
WHO HAVE ALL PAINSTAKINGLY HAD THESE

13095
11:13:36,243 --> 11:13:38,243
DISCUSSIONS WITH

13096
11:13:38,245 --> 11:13:39,246
THEIR CONSTITUENTS. AND I THINK IT

13097
11:13:39,246 --> 11:13:41,646
IS VERY VERY CLEAR

13098
11:13:43,250 --> 11:13:44,251
THAT THE OVERALL SENTIMENT OF THE

13099
11:13:44,251 --> 11:13:45,252
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH BY

13100
11:13:45,252 --> 11:13:47,254
THE WAY ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD

13101
11:13:47,254 --> 11:13:51,258
BE MOST APT TO USE A PARK ARE ACTUALLY

13102
11:13:51,258 --> 11:13:54,261
AGAINST IT. I THINK FROM A COMMON

13103
11:13:54,261 --> 11:13:55,262
SENSE PERSPECTIVE,

13104
11:13:55,262 --> 11:13:57,264
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA THAT PARKS

13105
11:13:57,264 --> 11:14:00,267
DEPARTMENT HAS PRESENTED, TO SAY THAT

13106
11:14:00,267 --> 11:14:03,270
THERE ARE MANY THOUSANDS OF NEW RESIDENTS IN

13107
11:14:03,270 --> 11:14:06,239
THE AREA THERE ARE HUNDREDS ABOUT TO

13108
11:14:06,239 --> 11:14:07,240
COME ONLINE. YET

13109
11:14:07,240 --> 11:14:09,242
TRAFFIC HAS DECREASED. THAT DOES NOT

13110
11:14:09,242 --> 11:14:11,242
MAKE SENSE EITHER.

13111
11:14:15,248 --> 11:14:17,250
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS MY STATISTICS PROFESSOR TAUGHT

13112
11:14:17,250 --> 11:14:18,251
ME IN BUSINESS SCHOOL WAS THE BEST WAY

13113
11:14:18,251 --> 11:14:20,253
TO TELL A LIE IS TO

13114
11:14:20,253 --> 11:14:21,254
USE STATISTICS. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE

13115
11:14:21,254 --> 11:14:22,255
DATA AND THE REPRESENTATION OF THE DATA

13116
11:14:22,255 --> 11:14:24,257
CAN BE SKEWED VERY EASILY. PARTICULARLY

13117
11:14:24,257 --> 11:14:27,260
WHEN IT WAS GATHERED DURING A VERY VERY

13118
11:14:27,260 --> 11:14:30,263
ABNORMAL TIME I.E. DURING COVID.

13119
11:14:30,263 --> 11:14:33,266
I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH A

13120
11:14:33,266 --> 11:14:35,268
SAFETY CONCERN. WHICH AGAIN AS SOPHIA SAID

13121
11:14:35,268 --> 11:14:39,239
IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE COMMON SENSE WHEN

13122
11:14:39,239 --> 11:14:41,239
VISION ZERO

13123
11:14:42,242 --> 11:14:45,242
IS TO REDUCE SAFETY CONCERNS

13124
11:14:45,245 --> 11:14:47,245
FOR PEDESTRIANS.

13125
11:14:47,247 --> 11:14:48,248
AND TO REDUCE NEIGHBORHOOD CUT THROUGH

13126
11:14:48,248 --> 11:14:51,248
WHICH BY THE WAY THOSE

13127
11:14:51,251 --> 11:14:52,252
WERE THE TWO THINGS THE PARKS

13128
11:14:52,252 --> 11:14:53,253
DEPARTMENT ARTICULATE WHERE THE FIRST

13129
11:14:53,253 --> 11:14:54,254
AND SECOND OBJECTIVES OF VISION ZERO.

13130
11:14:54,254 --> 11:14:56,254
TO CLOSE A

13131
11:14:57,257 --> 11:15:00,857
MAJOR ARTERY IN WHICH IS SURROUNDED

13132
11:15:02,262 --> 11:15:03,263
BY NEIGHBORHOODS WE ALL KNOW THAT

13133
11:15:03,263 --> 11:15:06,266
THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE IN TERMS OF

13134
11:15:06,266 --> 11:15:09,269
LIMITING CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. I HAPPEN

13135
11:15:09,269 --> 11:15:11,271
TO LIVE ON KENNEDY DRIVE. WITH THREE

13136
11:15:11,271 --> 11:15:12,272
CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF SIX YEARS OLD.

13137
11:15:12,272 --> 11:15:14,272
THE LAST

13138
11:15:15,241 --> 11:15:18,278
THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS,

13139
11:15:18,278 --> 11:15:21,281
AS SOMEONE WHO SITS THERE AND OBSERVES DAILY TRAFFIC

13140
11:15:21,281 --> 11:15:24,284
THERE IS EGREGIOUS VIOLATIONS ON A DAILY BASIS

13141
11:15:24,284 --> 11:15:26,684
OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC

13142
11:15:27,287 --> 11:15:30,287
WHICH WILL BE EXACERBATED BY

13143
11:15:30,290 --> 11:15:31,291
THE CLOSING OF A MAJOR EVERY

13144
11:15:31,291 --> 11:15:33,293
THAT RUNS DIRECTLY PARALLEL TO THE

13145
11:15:33,293 --> 11:15:35,295
NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS COMMON SENSE. IT

13146
11:15:35,295 --> 11:15:36,296
DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. THANK YOU. >>

13147
11:15:36,296 --> 11:15:38,296
THANK

13148
11:15:38,298 --> 11:15:41,898
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. ANDREW HYDE. >>

13149
11:15:42,302 --> 11:15:44,302
GOOD EVENING.

13150
11:15:45,305 --> 11:15:47,273
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING.

13151
11:15:47,273 --> 11:15:50,273
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW ROLE.

13152
11:15:51,277 --> 11:15:53,279
AND FOR TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT TO HEAR

13153
11:15:53,279 --> 11:15:54,280
THE VIEWS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

13154
11:15:54,280 --> 11:15:56,282
BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT FOR

13155
11:15:56,282 --> 11:15:59,285
ME IS I SUPPORT THE PILOT PROJECT.

13156
11:15:59,285 --> 11:16:00,286
I SEE NO CONTINUING NEED FOR 4 LANES

13157
11:16:00,286 --> 11:16:03,289
OF FAST TRAFFIC THROUGH A PARK.

13158
11:16:03,289 --> 11:16:04,290
PARK SHOULD BE FOR RECREATION. AND

13159
11:16:04,290 --> 11:16:06,292
NOT TO FACILITATE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT

13160
11:16:06,292 --> 11:16:08,292
IN MY VIEW.

13161
11:16:08,294 --> 11:16:09,295
I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO LITTLE FALL PARK

13162
11:16:09,295 --> 11:16:11,295
AND PARKWAY.

13163
11:16:11,297 --> 11:16:15,301
I'M A REGULAR VEHICLE IN BIKE USER.

13164
11:16:15,301 --> 11:16:18,304
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IN THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

13165
11:16:18,304 --> 11:16:20,273
TRAIL. I COMMUTE BY

13166
11:16:20,273 --> 11:16:21,274
BIKE TO WORK. I'VE USED A LINEAR PARK

13167
11:16:21,274 --> 11:16:24,277
AS WELL. I KNOW IT IS STILL A

13168
11:16:24,277 --> 11:16:26,279
WORK IN PROGRESS. WHAT WE SEE IS NOT NECESSARILY

13169
11:16:26,279 --> 11:16:27,280
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET. I THINK

13170
11:16:27,280 --> 11:16:30,283
CONTRARY TO THE CLAIMS WE HAVE HEARD

13171
11:16:30,283 --> 11:16:33,286
BY SOME MANY WHO LIVE NEAR THE

13172
11:16:33,286 --> 11:16:35,286
LITTLE

13173
11:16:35,288 --> 11:16:36,289
FALLS PARKWAY IN THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

13174
11:16:36,289 --> 11:16:38,289
SUPPORT THE LINEAR

13175
11:16:38,291 --> 11:16:39,292
PARK CONCEPT. I'M GLAD ASSOCIATION

13176
11:16:39,292 --> 11:16:41,692
LEADERS HAVE COME TONIGHT

13177
11:16:42,295 --> 11:16:45,295
AND PARTICIPATED IN THEIR VOICES

13178
11:16:45,298 --> 11:16:47,298
IS VERY IMPORTANT.

13179
11:16:47,300 --> 11:16:48,301
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF

13180
11:16:48,301 --> 11:16:50,303
ALL OF THEIR RESIDENCE AS WELL.

13181
11:16:50,303 --> 11:16:51,304
I THINK THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING

13182
11:16:51,304 --> 11:16:53,304
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC

13183
11:16:54,274 --> 11:16:56,276
THAT HAVE COME TONIGHT FROM THE

13184
11:16:56,276 --> 11:16:58,278
PARKS SERVICE AND OTHER PEOPLE TESTIFYING.

13185
11:16:58,278 --> 11:16:59,279
BUT

13186
11:16:59,279 --> 11:17:00,280
THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO USING LITTLE

13187
11:17:00,280 --> 11:17:02,282
FALLS PARKWAY. THEY ARE LESS CONVENIENT

13188
11:17:02,282 --> 11:17:06,286
YOU CAN ADD MINUTES TO A JOURNEY.

13189
11:17:06,286 --> 11:17:07,287
I DON'T SEE THOSE AS ONE MYSELF WHO

13190
11:17:07,287 --> 11:17:09,289
HAS USED THEM AS A SERIOUS DRAWBACK. SOME TESTIMONY AS

13191
11:17:09,289 --> 11:17:10,290
WE HAVE HEARD THE FOCUS ON THE SAFETY.

13192
11:17:10,290 --> 11:17:12,290
CAPITAL CRESCENT

13193
11:17:12,292 --> 11:17:15,892
TRAIL CROSSING A LITTLE FALLS PARK.

13194
11:17:16,329 --> 11:17:18,331
THAT IS A CAUSE FOR CONCERN.

13195
11:17:18,331 --> 11:17:19,332
I'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS WHEN I HAVE WRITTEN

13196
11:17:19,332 --> 11:17:21,332
ACROSS IT.

13197
11:17:26,306 --> 11:17:27,307
I BELIEVE THE LINEAR PARK IS HELP THE

13198
11:17:27,307 --> 11:17:28,308
SAFETY AND IT HAS REQUIRED IT IS TRUE

13199
11:17:28,308 --> 11:17:29,309
IS

13200
11:17:29,309 --> 11:17:30,310
THE PARKS THAT IT SAID REQUIRES A

13201
11:17:30,310 --> 11:17:31,311
MEDITATION FOR ALL USERS. I THINK

13202
11:17:31,311 --> 11:17:32,312
WHAT WE SEE IS NOT

13203
11:17:32,312 --> 11:17:33,313
AGAIN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET. THE

13204
11:17:33,313 --> 11:17:34,314
PARK SERVICE AS THEY TESTIFIED TONIGHT IS

13205
11:17:34,314 --> 11:17:36,314
GOING

13206
11:17:36,316 --> 11:17:37,317
TO WORK OUT A MORE SAFE CROSSING THEN

13207
11:17:37,317 --> 11:17:39,317
WHAT WE

13208
11:17:39,319 --> 11:17:40,320
SEE NOW. ONCE THIS IS APPROVED. I

13209
11:17:40,320 --> 11:17:41,321
THINK IT

13210
11:17:41,321 --> 11:17:43,323
IS WORTHY TO SORT OF CONSIDER WHAT

13211
11:17:43,323 --> 11:17:45,723
THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

13212
11:17:48,328 --> 11:17:49,329
INEVITABLY STORE SPEEDS ON LITTLE

13213
11:17:49,329 --> 11:17:50,330
FALLS PARKWAY IF

13214
11:17:50,330 --> 11:17:52,332
YOU ARE LANES HELP IMPROVE SAFETY.

13215
11:17:52,332 --> 11:17:54,332
I

13216
11:17:54,334 --> 11:17:55,335
KNOW THIS IS A FRAUGHT ISSUE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

13217
11:17:55,335 --> 11:17:57,337
WE'VE HEARD THAT TONIGHT

13218
11:17:57,337 --> 11:17:58,338
OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS. I HAVE TO

13219
11:17:58,338 --> 11:18:00,338
ADMIT THE

13220
11:18:01,307 --> 11:18:03,307
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS

13221
11:18:03,309 --> 11:18:04,310
ON BEHALF OF THE PARK SERVICE HAVE

13222
11:18:04,310 --> 11:18:06,310
BEEN UNCERTAIN LIMITED

13223
11:18:07,313 --> 11:18:10,313
AND OFTEN REACTIVE. I THINK

13224
11:18:11,317 --> 11:18:12,318
A MISSED CHANCES MANY MISSED CHANCES

13225
11:18:12,318 --> 11:18:13,319
TO EXPLAIN THE SUSPENSION OF THE OPEN PARKWAYS

13226
11:18:13,319 --> 11:18:15,321
AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PILOT. IT

13227
11:18:15,321 --> 11:18:16,322
IS USEFUL TO LEARN ABOUT IT TONIGHT.

13228
11:18:16,322 --> 11:18:19,325
IT DID LEAD TO A LOT

13229
11:18:19,325 --> 11:18:21,327
OF CONFUSION AND CONCERN.

13230
11:18:21,327 --> 11:18:22,328
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU AS

13231
11:18:22,328 --> 11:18:23,329
YOU CONSIDER THIS

13232
11:18:23,329 --> 11:18:25,331
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFITS WILL

13233
11:18:25,331 --> 11:18:26,332
BE GOING FORWARD.

13234
11:18:26,332 --> 11:18:28,334
AND HOW THE LINEAR PARK WILL WORK

13235
11:18:28,334 --> 11:18:29,335
UNDER THE PLAN OF THE PARKS

13236
11:18:29,335 --> 11:18:30,336
SERVICE. I HOPE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO

13237
11:18:30,336 --> 11:18:31,337
PROVE IT TONIGHT AND THANK YOU VERY

13238
11:18:31,337 --> 11:18:33,337
MUCH. >>

13239
11:18:34,307 --> 11:18:36,707
THANK YOU. OLIVER HARRIS. >>

13240
11:18:40,313 --> 11:18:42,313
NOT THERE. >> YES.

13241
11:18:43,316 --> 11:18:45,285
I AM HERE. I'VE BEEN TRYING

13242
11:18:45,285 --> 11:18:49,289
TO KEEP A LOW PROFILE. >> WE HEAR YOU. >>

13243
11:18:49,289 --> 11:18:51,689
THANK YOU. I GUESS

13244
11:18:52,292 --> 11:18:53,293
PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING HAS

13245
11:18:53,293 --> 11:18:55,295
BEEN SAID. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT

13246
11:18:55,295 --> 11:18:56,296
I THINK

13247
11:18:56,296 --> 11:18:59,296
BEAR REPEATING AND CONSIDERATION ARE

13248
11:19:00,300 --> 11:19:01,301
IF THERE WAS SO MUCH DEMAND FOR THIS

13249
11:19:01,301 --> 11:19:03,301
PARTICULAR PARK

13250
11:19:04,304 --> 11:19:06,272
OR WHETHER IT BE FROM THE FRONT END OR

13251
11:19:06,272 --> 11:19:09,275
A BUILT IT SO TO SPEAK AND IT WILL

13252
11:19:09,275 --> 11:19:10,276
COME PERSPECTIVE. I DRIVE UP AND DOWN

13253
11:19:10,276 --> 11:19:12,276
THE PARKWAY

13254
11:19:13,279 --> 11:19:15,679
ON A REGULAR BASIS.

13255
11:19:16,316 --> 11:19:17,317
I JUST

13256
11:19:17,317 --> 11:19:19,319
HAVE FAILED TO SEE THE DEMAND FOR

13257
11:19:19,319 --> 11:19:21,321
THIS IN TERMS OF THE USE. SO, THAT

13258
11:19:21,321 --> 11:19:25,325
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD

13259
11:19:25,325 --> 11:19:27,325
BE CONSIDERED. ALSO

13260
11:19:27,327 --> 11:19:28,328
IF IT WERE AS POPULAR AS I THINK THE

13261
11:19:28,328 --> 11:19:30,728
PROPONENTS OF THIS SUGGESTS

13262
11:19:31,331 --> 11:19:33,331
THAT IT IS,

13263
11:19:33,333 --> 11:19:34,334
WHERE IS THE PARKING GOING TO BE FOR

13264
11:19:34,334 --> 11:19:36,334
THAT

13265
11:19:37,337 --> 11:19:40,306
USE? SO, I JUST --

13266
11:19:40,306 --> 11:19:42,308
I THINK THE SAFETY IS A BIG ISSUE. I

13267
11:19:42,308 --> 11:19:45,908
THINK THE 2017 ROAD DIET THAT OCCURRED

13268
11:19:46,312 --> 11:19:49,315
AT THE CROSSING WITH THE TRAIL AND

13269
11:19:49,315 --> 11:19:52,315
I RUN ON THE CAPITAL

13270
11:19:52,318 --> 11:19:54,318
CRESCENT TRAIL. REGULARLY.

13271
11:19:55,321 --> 11:19:58,321
OCCASIONALLY I WILL GO UP

13272
11:19:58,324 --> 11:20:00,724
AS FAR UP AS

13273
11:20:01,327 --> 11:20:04,327
THE CROSSING AT LITTLE FALLS.

13274
11:20:04,330 --> 11:20:06,332
I'VE ONLY COME DOWN THAT ONE TIME AND

13275
11:20:06,332 --> 11:20:10,336
IT IS NOT A WELCOMING LANDING IF YOU WILL.

13276
11:20:10,336 --> 11:20:13,306
WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF WHERE THE LANE

13277
11:20:13,306 --> 11:20:16,309
CLOSURES STOP AND YOU HAVE TO SORT OF JUST

13278
11:20:16,309 --> 11:20:19,312
WORK YOUR WAY BACK UP OVER TO THE

13279
11:20:19,312 --> 11:20:21,312
CRESCENT TRAIL.

13280
11:20:21,314 --> 11:20:24,317
AT THE ENTRANCE TO KENWOOD ON DORSET. SO,

13281
11:20:24,317 --> 11:20:25,318
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN ISSUE. I

13282
11:20:25,318 --> 11:20:27,318
THINK

13283
11:20:27,320 --> 11:20:28,321
EVERYONE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE

13284
11:20:28,321 --> 11:20:30,721
BEST OUTCOME HERE. BUT

13285
11:20:31,324 --> 11:20:32,325
THERE IS CERTAINLY

13286
11:20:32,325 --> 11:20:34,327
EXCESS LAND TO CONSIDER OTHER PLANS

13287
11:20:34,327 --> 11:20:36,327
. AND THE

13288
11:20:37,330 --> 11:20:40,333
CONGESTION THAT THESE CLOSURES CREATES. AND

13289
11:20:40,333 --> 11:20:42,335
I THINK THE SAFETY HAZARD

13290
11:20:42,335 --> 11:20:43,336
WHERE YOU HAVE TO LANES OF TRAFFIC

13291
11:20:43,336 --> 11:20:45,336
AS YOU CROSS

13292
11:20:46,305 --> 11:20:48,305
WITHOUT THE MEDIAN ,

13293
11:20:49,309 --> 11:20:51,309
IS A PROBLEM.

13294
11:20:51,310 --> 11:20:52,311
IT SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED AS BEING

13295
11:20:52,311 --> 11:20:54,311
PUT BACK

13296
11:20:54,314 --> 11:20:55,314
WITH THE OTHER LANE OPENINGS. >> THANK

13297
11:20:55,314 --> 11:20:57,314
YOU VERY MUCH.

13298
11:20:58,318 --> 11:21:00,318
STACY --

13299
11:21:00,320 --> 11:21:02,720
BRANTLEY HOUSE CONDO ASSOCIATION. >>

13300
11:21:07,326 --> 11:21:09,326
HELLO. GOOD EVENING.

13301
11:21:10,329 --> 11:21:11,331
THANK YOU COUNTY LEADERS

13302
11:21:11,331 --> 11:21:14,331
FOR ALLOWING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.

13303
11:21:15,368 --> 11:21:16,369
SO MY FAMILY LOVES USING THE PARKS

13304
11:21:16,369 --> 11:21:18,369
IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

13305
11:21:19,372 --> 11:21:21,341
AS A MEMBER OF A CONDO COMMUNITY WITHOUT

13306
11:21:21,341 --> 11:21:22,341
A BACKYARD WE VISIT LOCAL PARKS EVERY

13307
11:21:22,341 --> 11:21:24,741
WEEK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

13308
11:21:25,345 --> 11:21:27,346
HOWEVER, WE HAVE NEVER VISITED

13309
11:21:27,346 --> 11:21:28,347
THE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY WHEN IT WAS

13310
11:21:28,347 --> 11:21:31,350
CLOSE. WE HAVE YET TO VISIT

13311
11:21:31,350 --> 11:21:34,354
IN ANY OF HIS MODIFIED VERSIONS.

13312
11:21:34,354 --> 11:21:37,356
ON BEHALF OF THE BRANTLEY HOUSE COMMUNITY WE

13313
11:21:37,356 --> 11:21:39,358
URGE YOU TO REINSTATE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IS A FOUR-LANE ROAD

13314
11:21:39,358 --> 11:21:40,360
WITH A MEDIAN WE CAN STOP DETOURING

13315
11:21:40,360 --> 11:21:43,360
OUT OF THE WAY TO

13316
11:21:43,362 --> 11:21:45,364
WILLARD AVENUE OR GOLDSBORO ROAD TO

13317
11:21:45,364 --> 11:21:46,365
REACH ESTABLISHMENTS ON RIVER ROAD

13318
11:21:46,365 --> 11:21:49,369
DUE TO THE LACK OF SAFETY

13319
11:21:49,369 --> 11:21:51,369
WE FEEL A

13320
11:21:51,371 --> 11:21:52,371
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY IN HIS MANY REITERATIONS. WE

13321
11:21:52,371 --> 11:21:54,771
REQUEST THAT PROPER TREE

13322
11:21:55,341 --> 11:21:57,341
ROOT WORK

13323
11:22:01,347 --> 11:22:02,348
WE

13324
11:22:02,348 --> 11:22:03,349
SERVICING AND MAINTENANCE IS COMPLETED

13325
11:22:03,349 --> 11:22:04,350
ON THE LITTLE FALLS PARK TRAIL THAT

13326
11:22:04,350 --> 11:22:05,351
RUNS PARALLEL TO LITTLE FALLS

13327
11:22:05,351 --> 11:22:07,353
PARKWAY AND HALLANDALE ROAD. FROM DORSET

13328
11:22:07,353 --> 11:22:09,355
ALL THE WAY TO NORWOOD PARK.

13329
11:22:09,355 --> 11:22:10,356
SO THIS PARK SPACE CAN BE SAFELY UTILIZED

13330
11:22:10,356 --> 11:22:12,756
FOR ALL RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.

13331
11:22:13,359 --> 11:22:14,360
ADDITIONALLY,

13332
11:22:14,360 --> 11:22:16,362
WE REQUEST THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL

13333
11:22:16,362 --> 11:22:20,562
IS WIDENED APPROPRIATELY DUE TO ITS USAGE.

13334
11:22:21,367 --> 11:22:22,368
SO THIS TRAIL CAN CONTINUE TO BE UTILIZED

13335
11:22:22,368 --> 11:22:24,368
FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES

13336
11:22:25,371 --> 11:22:28,341
AS WELL. LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY AS YOU KNOW

13337
11:22:28,341 --> 11:22:30,341
IS A MAIN

13338
11:22:31,344 --> 11:22:32,345
VEHICULAR ARTERY FOR

13339
11:22:32,345 --> 11:22:34,347
RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHWEST

13340
11:22:34,347 --> 11:22:37,350
MONTGOMERY COUNTY TO REACH DOWNTOWN BETHESDA.

13341
11:22:37,350 --> 11:22:40,353
THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE CLOSELY EXAMINED

13342
11:22:40,353 --> 11:22:42,353
AND FURTHER EVALUATED.

13343
11:22:43,356 --> 11:22:45,356
AS

13344
11:22:45,358 --> 11:22:46,359
A RESULT OF THE LATEST CONFIGURATION,

13345
11:22:46,359 --> 11:22:49,362
ALONG WITH THE LACK OF REFLECTIVE MATERIAL

13346
11:22:49,362 --> 11:22:51,362
ON BLOCKADES,

13347
11:22:51,364 --> 11:22:52,365
AND ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE THAT CAN BE

13348
11:22:52,365 --> 11:22:53,366
CONFUSING FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNAWARE OF

13349
11:22:53,366 --> 11:22:55,766
THE MODIFICATIONS SPECIFICALLY --

13350
11:22:56,369 --> 11:22:58,369
NEIGHBORS HAVE REPORTED

13351
11:22:58,371 --> 11:23:02,341
NUMEROUS NEAR MISS HEAD ON COLLISIONS SITUATIONS.

13352
11:23:02,341 --> 11:23:03,342
FIRE AND RESCUE CONCERNS.

13353
11:23:03,342 --> 11:23:06,342
IMPORTANT SAFETY ISSUES HAVE BEEN

13354
11:23:06,345 --> 11:23:08,347
OPENLY DISCUSSED BY PERSONNEL AT THE

13355
11:23:08,347 --> 11:23:10,747
BETHESDA AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

13356
11:23:11,384 --> 11:23:14,384
IMAGINE THIS. IN AN EMERGENCY

13357
11:23:15,388 --> 11:23:17,390
THE ONLY WAY THAT A VEHICLE AN EMERGENCY

13358
11:23:17,390 --> 11:23:20,393
VEHICLE CAN MAKE ITS WAY THROUGH IS

13359
11:23:20,393 --> 11:23:22,393
FOR ONE LANE

13360
11:23:24,397 --> 11:23:25,398
OF VEHICLES TO BASICALLY GO OFF ERODING

13361
11:23:25,398 --> 11:23:26,399
INTO THE GRASSY AREA TOWARDS THE ACTUAL

13362
11:23:26,399 --> 11:23:27,400
TRAIL WHERE

13363
11:23:27,400 --> 11:23:29,402
RESIDENTS COULD OR WOULD BE USING

13364
11:23:29,402 --> 11:23:31,402
THIS SPACE RECREATIONALLY

13365
11:23:33,372 --> 11:23:34,373
WHILE THE CARS IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION

13366
11:23:34,373 --> 11:23:35,374
WILL BE LOCKED IN THEIR LAME DUE TO

13367
11:23:35,374 --> 11:23:37,376
THE BOLLARDS OR A FUTURE WALL. EMERGENCY VEHICLES

13368
11:23:37,376 --> 11:23:39,378
WOULD BE UNABLE TO MOVE AS DESCRIBED

13369
11:23:39,378 --> 11:23:41,380
AN EXAMPLE AN AMBULANCE STUFF AND

13370
11:23:41,380 --> 11:23:43,780
STUCK IN TRAVEL TRAFFIC.

13371
11:23:44,383 --> 11:23:46,383
FOR 3 SIGNAL CYCLES.

13372
11:23:50,389 --> 11:23:51,390
DENSITY

13373
11:23:51,390 --> 11:23:52,391
CONTINUES TO BE ADDED TO WEST BART AND

13374
11:23:52,391 --> 11:23:53,392
DOWNTOWN BETHESDA TRAFFIC ON THE PARKWAY

13375
11:23:53,392 --> 11:23:55,394
WILL INCREASE. PARKS DOES

13376
11:23:55,394 --> 11:23:59,594
NOT ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE.

13377
11:24:00,399 --> 11:24:01,400
MISCONSTRUE DATA WHICH I KNOW IS RECENTLY

13378
11:24:01,400 --> 11:24:02,401
JUST MENTIONED BY THE PERSON THAT

13379
11:24:02,401 --> 11:24:04,401
SPOKE

13380
11:24:05,404 --> 11:24:07,404
BEFORE ME.

13381
11:24:09,375 --> 11:24:10,376
THE ROAD RESTRICTIONS ENCOURAGE VEHICULAR

13382
11:24:10,376 --> 11:24:11,377
TRAFFIC TO CONTINUE DETOURING THROUGH

13383
11:24:11,377 --> 11:24:13,377
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE

13384
11:24:13,379 --> 11:24:14,380
NO SIDEWALKS. THE DETOURING TRAFFIC

13385
11:24:14,380 --> 11:24:15,381
HAS LIKELY INCREASED ON

13386
11:24:15,381 --> 11:24:17,383
GOLDSBORO ROAD BETWEEN RIVER ROAD

13387
11:24:17,383 --> 11:24:19,385
AND BRADLEY BOULEVARD BUT IT HAS

13388
11:24:19,385 --> 11:24:22,985
NOT BEEN COLLECTED ON GOLDSBORO. THE

13389
11:24:23,389 --> 11:24:26,389
DATA PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 15th

13390
11:24:26,392 --> 11:24:27,393
APPEARS INCOMPLETE

13391
11:24:27,393 --> 11:24:29,395
AND CHERRY PICKED TO SUPPORT PARKS

13392
11:24:29,395 --> 11:24:30,396
GOAL OF MAKING THE ROAD

13393
11:24:30,396 --> 11:24:33,396
PERMANENT RATHER THAN ACTUALLY PRESENTING

13394
11:24:35,401 --> 11:24:36,402
THE FULL DATA. FOR EXAMPLE IF

13395
11:24:36,402 --> 11:24:38,404
THEY COLLECTED SEVEN DAYS WORTH OF DATA,

13396
11:24:38,404 --> 11:24:41,374
WHY DID THEY NOT SHARE SEVEN

13397
11:24:41,374 --> 11:24:43,376
DAYS WORTH OF DATA?

13398
11:24:43,376 --> 11:24:44,377
THEY SELECTED THREE WOOD DAYS AND COMPARED

13399
11:24:44,377 --> 11:24:45,378
IT TO TWO

13400
11:24:45,378 --> 11:24:47,380
WEEKEND DAYS. AND DID NOT NECESSARILY TAKE

13401
11:24:47,380 --> 11:24:49,380
INTO ACCOUNT

13402
11:24:51,384 --> 11:24:53,386
POTENTIAL FUTURE CHANGES IN THE TRAFFIC

13403
11:24:53,386 --> 11:24:54,387
LEVELS ON THE PARKWAY AS A

13404
11:24:54,387 --> 11:24:57,390
RESULT OF THE INCREASED RESIDENTIAL BUILDING

13405
11:24:57,390 --> 11:24:59,392
IN DOWNTOWN BETHESDA AND THE SHIFT

13406
11:24:59,392 --> 11:25:02,395
TO FULL OR HYBRID OFFICE WORK FOR FEDERAL EMPLOYEES

13407
11:25:02,395 --> 11:25:04,395
AND OTHERS.

13408
11:25:07,400 --> 11:25:08,401
INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT

13409
11:25:08,401 --> 11:25:09,402
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY PLEASE REVIEW

13410
11:25:09,402 --> 11:25:11,437
POSSIBLE EFFORTS TO MANAGE MAINTAIN

13411
11:25:11,437 --> 11:25:13,406
AND IMPROVE

13412
11:25:13,406 --> 11:25:14,407
THOUGH FALLS PARK TRAIL IN THE CAPITAL

13413
11:25:14,407 --> 11:25:16,807
CRESCENT TRAIL. THANK YOU

13414
11:25:17,410 --> 11:25:20,410
FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

13415
11:25:20,413 --> 11:25:22,413
TOM ELDRIDGE. >>

13416
11:25:23,416 --> 11:25:26,416
YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>

13417
11:25:26,419 --> 11:25:28,419
WE CAN. >>

13418
11:25:29,422 --> 11:25:32,425
I'M A CHEVY CHASE RESIDENT OF

13419
11:25:32,425 --> 11:25:33,426
30 YEARS. I

13420
11:25:33,426 --> 11:25:35,428
WAS ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE TOWN OF SOMERSET

13421
11:25:35,428 --> 11:25:38,428
FOR 8 YEARS. I'M A CYCLIST

13422
11:25:38,431 --> 11:25:40,831
WHO HAS CYCLED ON

13423
11:25:41,434 --> 11:25:44,437
ALL THE MAJOR ROADS OF THE AREA. COMMUTED TO

13424
11:25:44,437 --> 11:25:46,439
DC MARYLAND AND VIRGINIA. AVERAGING

13425
11:25:46,439 --> 11:25:47,406
ABOUT 5000 MILES A YEAR. I'M ALSO

13426
11:25:47,406 --> 11:25:49,406
THE FORMER

13427
11:25:50,409 --> 11:25:52,411
COUNTY PROSECUTOR IN CHARGE

13428
11:25:52,411 --> 11:25:56,110
COMMITTEE PROSECUTOR IN CHARGE OF BETHESDA.

13429
11:25:56,415 --> 11:25:59,415
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO

13430
11:26:02,421 --> 11:26:03,422
SUGGEST AS THE JURY IF

13431
11:26:03,422 --> 11:26:04,423
YOU WILL IN THIS DECISION-MAKING AS WE

13432
11:26:04,423 --> 11:26:05,424
OFTEN SAID TO THE JURIES WE PRESENTED

13433
11:26:05,424 --> 11:26:07,824
TO, YOU DON'T LOSE

13434
11:26:08,427 --> 11:26:11,430
YOUR COMMON SENSE WHEN YOU --

13435
11:26:11,430 --> 11:26:14,433
AND BECOME BOARD MEMBERS. THERE IS DATA.

13436
11:26:14,433 --> 11:26:17,433
THERE IS EVIDENCE. YOU HAVE

13437
11:26:17,436 --> 11:26:18,437
HEARD LOTS PLEASE

13438
11:26:18,437 --> 11:26:20,406
DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT YOU

13439
11:26:20,406 --> 11:26:22,406
HAVE COMMON SENSE.

13440
11:26:22,408 --> 11:26:25,411
YOU USE THAT COMMON SENSE I'M CONVINCED

13441
11:26:25,411 --> 11:26:26,412
YOU'RE GOING TO RESULT IN THE CONCLUSION

13442
11:26:26,412 --> 11:26:28,812
THAT YOU SHOULD REJECT

13443
11:26:29,415 --> 11:26:31,417
WHAT PARKS IS PROPOSING TO CLOSE HAVE

13444
11:26:31,417 --> 11:26:35,170
TO LANES. ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE

13445
11:26:38,424 --> 11:26:39,425
CAN SEE THAT THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS LESS SAFE THAN

13446
11:26:39,425 --> 11:26:41,427
WHAT WAS IMPOSED IN 2017. THE TWO

13447
11:26:41,427 --> 11:26:43,427
LANE VERSION

13448
11:26:44,430 --> 11:26:47,433
IS LESS SAFE THAN THE FOUR LANES WITH

13449
11:26:47,433 --> 11:26:50,436
A MEDIAN. ALBEIT WITH TWO LANES

13450
11:26:50,436 --> 11:26:53,406
AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL.

13451
11:26:53,406 --> 11:26:55,406
THE LACK

13452
11:26:55,408 --> 11:26:56,409
OF THE MEDIAN AT THE CAPITAL CRESCENT

13453
11:26:56,409 --> 11:26:58,411
TRAIL IS LESS SAFE THAN WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

13454
11:26:58,411 --> 11:26:59,412
THAT IS COMMON SENSE. EMERGENCY VEHICLES

13455
11:26:59,412 --> 11:27:02,412
OBVIOUSLY HAVE A HARDER TIME

13456
11:27:02,415 --> 11:27:04,815
--THAN WHEN THERE WERE

13457
11:27:05,418 --> 11:27:08,421
FOUR LANES. THEY HAVE NO MEDIAN.

13458
11:27:08,421 --> 11:27:11,457
THEY HAVE NO SHOULDER TO PULL OFF ONTO.

13459
11:27:11,457 --> 11:27:13,457
VARIOUS INCREASED CUT

13460
11:27:14,460 --> 11:27:16,462
THROUGH TRAFFIC IN NEIGHBORHOODS

13461
11:27:16,462 --> 11:27:17,463
. PEOPLE ARE DISCOURAGED THE DATA

13462
11:27:17,463 --> 11:27:19,465
SHOWS THIS FROM USING

13463
11:27:19,465 --> 11:27:20,466
LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY. I MYSELF LIVING IN

13464
11:27:20,466 --> 11:27:23,466
CHEVY CHASE ON PART OF

13465
11:27:23,469 --> 11:27:26,469
THAT DATA. I AVOID LITTLE

13466
11:27:26,472 --> 11:27:28,441
FALLS PARKWAY. BECAUSE IT IS A MESS

13467
11:27:28,441 --> 11:27:29,442
BECAUSE IT GETS BACKED UP. COMMON

13468
11:27:29,442 --> 11:27:31,842
SENSE TELLS YOU THAT

13469
11:27:35,448 --> 11:27:36,449
COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THERE

13470
11:27:36,449 --> 11:27:37,450
IS A MUCH BETTER USE MULTIPLE BETTER

13471
11:27:37,450 --> 11:27:38,451
USES OF TAXPAYER FUNDS THAN THIS PARK.

13472
11:27:38,451 --> 11:27:41,451
IMPROVING THE CAPITAL CRESCENT TRAIL.

13473
11:27:41,454 --> 11:27:43,854
IMPROVING LITTLE FALLS PARK.

13474
11:27:46,459 --> 11:27:47,460
WE'VE HEARD MANY OF THEM. YOU'VE ALSO

13475
11:27:47,460 --> 11:27:49,462
HEARD THE EVIDENCE FROM TRAFFIC ENGINEERS PARKS HAS

13476
11:27:49,462 --> 11:27:50,463
FAILED TO ADEQUATELY MODEL FUTURE

13477
11:27:50,463 --> 11:27:52,463
TRAFFIC NEEDS.

13478
11:27:54,433 --> 11:27:56,435
IT WOULD BE PLANNING MALPRACTICE FOR

13479
11:27:56,435 --> 11:27:59,438
YOU TO DECIDE BASED ON THE DAY THAT YOU HAVE TO THIS

13480
11:27:59,438 --> 11:28:02,408
POINT TO CLOSE TWO LANES. PARKS CANNOT WHICH AWAIT

13481
11:28:02,408 --> 11:28:05,411
THESE ISSUES. THE PLANNING BOARD CANNOT WISH

13482
11:28:05,411 --> 11:28:07,413
AWAIT THESE ISSUES. IF YOU USE COMMON

13483
11:28:07,413 --> 11:28:08,414
SENSE YOU WILL COME TO THE CONCLUSION

13484
11:28:08,414 --> 11:28:10,414
THAT THERE IS

13485
11:28:11,417 --> 11:28:13,419
MUCH MORE DATA AND STUDY NEEDED OF THESE

13486
11:28:13,419 --> 11:28:17,190
FUTURE TRAFFIC NEEDS AND CAPACITY NEEDS

13487
11:28:17,423 --> 11:28:20,426
BEFORE ANY DECISION COULD BE MADE TO CLOSE

13488
11:28:20,426 --> 11:28:23,429
TWO LANES. I THEREFORE URGE YOU TO REJECT

13489
11:28:23,429 --> 11:28:25,429
PARKS RECOMMENDATION.

13490
11:28:27,433 --> 11:28:28,434
AND PROTECT THE SAFETY AND THE FUTURE

13491
11:28:28,434 --> 11:28:29,435
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF RESIDENTS OF

13492
11:28:29,435 --> 11:28:31,835
MONTGOMERY COUNTY. >> THANK YOU.

13493
11:28:33,439 --> 11:28:35,439
LEN BATTLE. >>

13494
11:28:39,411 --> 11:28:42,411
YOU ARE THERE BUT YOU

13495
11:28:42,414 --> 11:28:44,814
ARE MUTED. >> WE CANNOT

13496
11:28:45,417 --> 11:28:47,417
HEAR YOU. >>

13497
11:28:48,420 --> 11:28:50,820
I'M SURE IT IS

13498
11:28:51,423 --> 11:28:53,423
GREAT TESTIMONY. >> YOU

13499
11:28:54,426 --> 11:28:56,426
ARE MUTED. >>

13500
11:29:00,432 --> 11:29:03,432
WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU. >>

13501
11:29:18,450 --> 11:29:21,450
*SIX IF YOU CALL IN. >>

13502
11:29:30,462 --> 11:29:33,462
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>

13503
11:29:33,465 --> 11:29:35,465
YES. >> WONDERFUL.

13504
11:29:36,468 --> 11:29:39,471
THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. MY NAME

13505
11:29:39,471 --> 11:29:42,441
IS LEN BATTLE. AND I LIVE IN --

13506
11:29:42,441 --> 11:29:44,441
TOWNHOUSES.

13507
11:29:44,443 --> 11:29:49,448
WHICH ARE AT THE CORNER OF WEST BART AVENUE.

13508
11:29:49,448 --> 11:29:51,450
I THINK THERE IS AN ECHO HERE. >>

13509
11:29:51,450 --> 11:29:53,450
IT IS

13510
11:29:54,453 --> 11:29:57,453
BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU. >>

13511
11:29:57,456 --> 11:30:00,459
I WALK THE TRAIL AND I DRIVE

13512
11:30:00,459 --> 11:30:02,859
ON LITTLE FALLS ALMOST

13513
11:30:03,462 --> 11:30:05,464
MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY. >>

13514
11:30:05,464 --> 11:30:08,467
TURNED THE SPEAKER OFF ON YOUR COMPUTER. >>

13515
11:30:08,467 --> 11:30:12,471
MY SPEAKER IS OFF ON THE COMPUTER. >> OKAY.

13516
11:30:12,471 --> 11:30:14,471
PROCEED. >>

13517
11:30:15,441 --> 11:30:17,841
I OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL

13518
11:30:18,444 --> 11:30:20,444
. LITTLE FALLS IS

13519
11:30:21,447 --> 11:30:24,447
A VITAL CORE DOOR CONNECTING

13520
11:30:24,450 --> 11:30:25,451
THE --CORE

13521
11:30:25,451 --> 11:30:27,453
DOOR WITH DOWNTOWN BETHESDA. THIS

13522
11:30:27,453 --> 11:30:29,853
IS THE WRONG TIME

13523
11:30:30,456 --> 11:30:32,458
TO BE PROPOSING THIS KIND

13524
11:30:32,458 --> 11:30:33,459
OF PROPOSAL TO REDUCE LITTLE FALLS

13525
11:30:33,459 --> 11:30:35,459
FROM

13526
11:30:36,462 --> 11:30:38,464
FOUR LANES TO 2. WE ARE ABOUT

13527
11:30:38,464 --> 11:30:39,465
TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF NEW RESIDENTS

13528
11:30:39,465 --> 11:30:41,465
IN

13529
11:30:42,468 --> 11:30:44,468
WEST BART.

13530
11:30:44,470 --> 11:30:47,470
AND THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENCES

13531
11:30:48,440 --> 11:30:49,441
IN BETHESDA. ALL OF THAT CONSTRUCTION

13532
11:30:49,441 --> 11:30:51,443
IS UNDERWAY. AND YOU SHOULD WAIT TO

13533
11:30:51,443 --> 11:30:53,443
SEE WHAT

13534
11:30:54,446 --> 11:30:57,449
IMPACT IT HAS ON THE TRAFFIC

13535
11:30:57,449 --> 11:30:59,449
ON LITTLE FALLS.

13536
11:31:00,452 --> 11:31:02,454
SECONDLY, AS HAS BEEN SAID

13537
11:31:02,454 --> 11:31:05,454
THE CONFIGURATION CURRENTLY USED IS

13538
11:31:06,458 --> 11:31:07,493
VERY UNSAFE.

13539
11:31:07,493 --> 11:31:09,495
IT IS UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORISTS.

13540
11:31:09,495 --> 11:31:11,895
GIVING UP THE MEDIAN

13541
11:31:12,498 --> 11:31:14,898
IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

13542
11:31:15,501 --> 11:31:17,503
IT IS AWFUL FOR

13543
11:31:17,503 --> 11:31:18,504
EMERGENCY VEHICLES. AS YOU HEARD FROM

13544
11:31:18,504 --> 11:31:20,504
THE PERSON

13545
11:31:21,473 --> 11:31:24,476
WHO WAS IN AN AMBULANCE. AND FINALLY,

13546
11:31:24,476 --> 11:31:26,476
ALL OF

13547
11:31:27,479 --> 11:31:30,482
THIS UNSAFE THIS DANGER TO PEDESTRIANS

13548
11:31:30,482 --> 11:31:33,482
AND MOTORISTS IS RIDICULOUS AND

13549
11:31:33,485 --> 11:31:36,488
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A GOOD REASON

13550
11:31:36,488 --> 11:31:39,491
TO DO IT. THE RESIDENTS DO

13551
11:31:39,491 --> 11:31:42,494
NOT WANT THIS KIND OF A PARK. IF THERE

13552
11:31:42,494 --> 11:31:45,494
IS MONEY IN PARKS BUDGET

13553
11:31:45,497 --> 11:31:47,497
, WE SHE USE

13554
11:31:47,499 --> 11:31:48,500
IT TO IMPROVE THE PARKS THAT ALREADY

13555
11:31:48,500 --> 11:31:51,500
EXISTS. TO WIDEN CRESCENT TRAIL.

13556
11:31:51,503 --> 11:31:54,473
TO HELP WITH THE INVASIVE

13557
11:31:54,473 --> 11:31:57,473
VINES ALONG THE LANDSCAPING. AND

13558
11:31:57,476 --> 11:32:00,479
TO FIND THE WILL IT BRANCH GREENWAY

13559
11:32:00,479 --> 11:32:03,482
WHICH WAS TO BE THE JEWEL OF THE WEST BART

13560
11:32:03,482 --> 11:32:06,482
SECTOR PLAN. IT SHOULD BE

13561
11:32:06,485 --> 11:32:08,485
OPPOSED NOW.

13562
11:32:08,487 --> 11:32:09,488
IF IT NEEDS TO COME UP LATER WHEN

13563
11:32:09,488 --> 11:32:12,488
WE SEE THAT IS FINE.

13564
11:32:12,491 --> 11:32:14,493
BUT IT IS ABOUT

13565
11:32:14,493 --> 11:32:15,494
IT IS A BAD IDEA TODAY. >> THANK YOU

13566
11:32:15,494 --> 11:32:17,494
FOR

13567
11:32:18,497 --> 11:32:21,497
YOUR TESTIMONY. SHERRY DEL CAMPO. >>

13568
11:32:21,500 --> 11:32:23,500
HELLO.

13569
11:32:27,473 --> 11:32:28,474
MY NAME IS SHERRY AND MY FAMILY

13570
11:32:28,474 --> 11:32:30,476
AND I ARE MOVING TO MONTGOMERY COUNTY THIS

13571
11:32:30,476 --> 11:32:32,478
YEAR. WE ARE IN SUPPORT

13572
11:32:32,478 --> 11:32:33,479
OF THE LITTLE FALLS PARKWAY PILOT PROJECT.

13573
11:32:33,479 --> 11:32:35,479
AFTER

13574
11:32:36,482 --> 11:32:39,485
LIVING IN A CAR DEPENDENT TOWN

13575
11:32:39,485 --> 11:32:40,486
FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW WE ARE

13576
11:32:40,486 --> 11:32:42,488
CRAVING MORE THAN EVER FOR THERE TO

13577
11:32:42,488 --> 11:32:45,491
BE PARKS WHERE WE CAN WALK

13578
11:32:45,491 --> 11:32:48,494
AND BIKE TO WITH OUR DAUGHTER.

13579
11:32:48,494 --> 11:32:50,496
WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE OF

13580
11:32:50,496 --> 11:32:54,960
LIVING IN A WALKABLE CITY PREVIOUSLY,

13581
11:32:54,500 --> 11:32:57,503
THAT WALK ABILITY AND SAFE BIKE LANES

13582
11:32:57,503 --> 11:32:59,503
ARE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL

13583
11:32:59,505 --> 11:33:00,506
FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND ALSO JUST ESTABLISHING A

13584
11:33:00,506 --> 11:33:02,906
GREATER SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

13585
11:33:03,475 --> 11:33:05,475
AND SO

13586
11:33:05,477 --> 11:33:06,512
I SUPPORT KEEPING THE PARKWAY AT TWO

13587
11:33:06,512 --> 11:33:08,912
LANES RATHER THAN FOUR.

13588
11:33:09,515 --> 11:33:11,517
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

13589
11:33:11,517 --> 11:33:15,117
THE LAST SPEAKER IS JOHN NICHOLS. >>

13590
11:33:17,523 --> 11:33:18,524
I WAS SURE. THAT IS WHAT THEY TOLD

13591
11:33:18,524 --> 11:33:21,524
ME. HE IS NOT HERE. >>

13592
11:33:21,527 --> 11:33:24,527
I'M HERE. >> WE CAN SEE

13593
11:33:24,530 --> 11:33:27,533
YOUR EYES. WE CAN HEAR YOU. >>

13594
11:33:27,533 --> 11:33:30,533
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE ME.

13595
11:33:30,536 --> 11:33:33,539
JOHN NICHOLS. I LIVE IN SUMNER.

13596
11:33:33,539 --> 11:33:36,508
WANT TO GIVE THE PERSPECTIVE OF A PARENT

13597
11:33:36,508 --> 11:33:39,511
OF TWO KIDS WHO ARE IN OUR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

13598
11:33:39,511 --> 11:33:42,514
IF THEY COULD BE HERE NOW THEY WOULD SAY

13599
11:33:42,514 --> 11:33:44,514
IN EFFECT, DON'T

13600
11:33:44,516 --> 11:33:45,517
GIVE ME A NEW PARK THAT IS FAR AWAY.

13601
11:33:45,517 --> 11:33:47,917
INSTEAD FIX MY LOCAL

13602
11:33:48,520 --> 11:33:51,523
PARK THAT I CAN WALK TO. I HAVE ATTENDED

13603
11:33:51,523 --> 11:33:53,525
A FEW OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS ON

13604
11:33:53,525 --> 11:33:54,526
THIS TOPIC. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IMPRESSED

13605
11:33:54,526 --> 11:33:56,526
BY THE

13606
11:33:56,528 --> 11:33:57,529
PARKS TEAM. THEY SEEM INNOVATIVE AND

13607
11:33:57,529 --> 11:33:59,529
HAVE CLEARLY

13608
11:34:00,532 --> 11:34:03,532
PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT

13609
11:34:03,535 --> 11:34:05,537
INTO THIS IDEA OF A LINEAR PARK.

13610
11:34:05,537 --> 11:34:06,538
I APPLAUD THE IDEA OF PROVIDING MORE

13611
11:34:06,538 --> 11:34:08,538
OUTDOOR SPACE

13612
11:34:09,508 --> 11:34:11,908
FOR RECREATION AND EXERCISE.

13613
11:34:12,511 --> 11:34:15,514
MUCH OF THE CURRENT FOCUS IS ON TRAFFIC AND

13614
11:34:15,514 --> 11:34:18,514
THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS

13615
11:34:18,517 --> 11:34:20,519
PREMISE THAT IF THE TRAFFIC FLOW

13616
11:34:20,519 --> 11:34:21,520
AND CUT THROUGH AND SAFETY ARE NOT

13617
11:34:21,520 --> 11:34:24,523
PROBLEMS THAN THIS PROJECT IS A GOOD IDEA. AND SHOULD

13618
11:34:24,523 --> 11:34:26,923
BE APPROVED. BUT, I

13619
11:34:27,526 --> 11:34:29,526
STRONGLY FEEL

13620
11:34:29,528 --> 11:34:30,529
THAT IF THE IDEA BEHIND THE PARK THE

13621
11:34:30,529 --> 11:34:32,529
LINEAR PARK IS

13622
11:34:32,531 --> 11:34:33,532
TO PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR RECREATION

13623
11:34:33,532 --> 11:34:35,532
AND EXERCISE,

13624
11:34:36,535 --> 11:34:38,535
PART

13625
11:34:39,538 --> 11:34:41,507
IS INVESTING HIS TIME AND RESOURCES IN THE

13626
11:34:41,507 --> 11:34:45,707
WRONG PLACE. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE

13627
11:34:46,512 --> 11:34:48,514
FOUR MONTGOMERY COUNTY LOCAL PARKS

13628
11:34:48,514 --> 11:34:52,518
THAT ARE EITHER A SHORT WALK OR BIKE RIGHT AWAY. THE ALL

13629
11:34:52,518 --> 11:34:53,519
HAVE PLAYGROUNDS

13630
11:34:53,519 --> 11:34:55,521
TENNIS BASKETBALL MOST OF THEM HAVE FIELDS

13631
11:34:55,521 --> 11:34:58,521
FOR SOCCER AND BASEBALL. WE

13632
11:34:58,524 --> 11:34:59,525
DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME

13633
11:34:59,525 --> 11:35:00,526
IN THESE PARKS FOR SOCCER PRACTICES

13634
11:35:00,526 --> 11:35:04,530
AND TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS. WHEN I ASKED

13635
11:35:04,530 --> 11:35:07,566
MY KIDS IF THEY HAVE A CHOICE WHERE

13636
11:35:07,566 --> 11:35:08,567
THEY WANT TO GO,

13637
11:35:08,567 --> 11:35:10,569
THEY USUALLY PICK A DC PARK THAT WE

13638
11:35:10,569 --> 11:35:13,572
HAVE TO DRIVE TO. TO ME

13639
11:35:13,572 --> 11:35:16,542
IT IS PAINFUL TO HEAR THAT.

13640
11:35:16,542 --> 11:35:19,545
SO WE OFTEN END UP DRIVING

13641
11:35:19,545 --> 11:35:21,545
TO PALISADES --.

13642
11:35:22,548 --> 11:35:25,551
IF YOU ASKED THE KIDS WHY,

13643
11:35:25,551 --> 11:35:26,552
THEY WOULD SAY IF

13644
11:35:26,552 --> 11:35:27,553
WE GO TO THE LOCAL PARKS IT IS OLD

13645
11:35:27,553 --> 11:35:30,553
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT HAS NOT

13646
11:35:30,556 --> 11:35:33,556
BEEN UPDATED. DECADES POORLY MAINTAINED.

13647
11:35:34,560 --> 11:35:36,560
OVERGROWN FEELS.

13648
11:35:36,562 --> 11:35:38,564
YOU SHOULD SEE THESE STILL SOMETIMES

13649
11:35:38,564 --> 11:35:39,565
DURING SOCCER PRACTICE. THEY ARE NOT EVEN

13650
11:35:39,565 --> 11:35:42,568
PLAYABLE. TENNIS COURT SERVICES ARE DANGEROUS.

13651
11:35:42,568 --> 11:35:46,168
BASKETBALL COURTS ARE IN PORSCHE A.

13652
11:35:46,572 --> 11:35:47,539
WE GO TO A DC PARK

13653
11:35:47,539 --> 11:35:49,541
LIKE PALISADES NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

13654
11:35:49,541 --> 11:35:51,543
A NICE TURF FIELD NEXT TO THE

13655
11:35:51,543 --> 11:35:54,543
GRASS FEELS. RESURFACED TENNIS COURTS.

13656
11:35:54,546 --> 11:35:56,548
THEY DID NOT BUILD A NEW OUTDOOR SPACE.

13657
11:35:56,548 --> 11:35:58,550
THEY FIXED AND IMPROVED AN EXISTING

13658
11:35:58,550 --> 11:36:00,550
SPACE THAT IS

13659
11:36:00,552 --> 11:36:01,553
EMBEDDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU

13660
11:36:01,553 --> 11:36:03,553
GO THERE YOU

13661
11:36:03,555 --> 11:36:04,556
WILL SEE LOTS OF MARYLAND LICENSE

13662
11:36:04,556 --> 11:36:05,557
PLATES IN THE

13663
11:36:05,557 --> 11:36:07,559
PARKING LOTS. IN ALL OF THIS TALK

13664
11:36:07,559 --> 11:36:09,559
ABOUT TRAFFIC

13665
11:36:10,562 --> 11:36:11,563
,

13666
11:36:11,563 --> 11:36:13,565
LET'S NOT FORGET TO DISCUSS THE GOAL OF THE

13667
11:36:13,565 --> 11:36:15,965
LINEAR PARK IMPROVING THE

13668
11:36:16,568 --> 11:36:17,569
LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS

13669
11:36:17,569 --> 11:36:19,571
. MIGHT NOT SOUND AS EXCITING AS A

13670
11:36:19,571 --> 11:36:22,541
NEW SPACE WITH PING-PONG AND

13671
11:36:22,541 --> 11:36:23,542
CORN HOLE. IT

13672
11:36:23,542 --> 11:36:25,544
IS A MUCH BETTER PATH TOWARDS INCREASING

13673
11:36:25,544 --> 11:36:27,544
EXERCISE AND RECREATION.

13674
11:36:28,547 --> 11:36:31,550
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

13675
11:36:31,550 --> 11:36:33,550
THAT WAS OUR

13676
11:36:34,553 --> 11:36:36,553
LAST SPEAKER.

13677
11:36:37,556 --> 11:36:40,559
THIS TOPIC WILL BE ON OUR

13678
11:36:40,559 --> 11:36:42,561
AGENDA ON APRIL 13th.

13679
11:36:42,561 --> 11:36:43,562
HOPEFULLY WE WILL COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS

13680
11:36:43,562 --> 11:36:45,562
.

13681
11:36:45,564 --> 11:36:49,568
IF WE NEED MORE DATA WE WILL GET MORE DATA.

13682
11:36:49,568 --> 11:36:52,571
THAT IS THE SCHEDULE. I THANK

13683
11:36:52,571 --> 11:36:54,971
YOU EVERYBODY FOR PATIENTS

13684
11:36:55,540 --> 11:36:58,543
FOR ATTENDING. I THINK THE BOARD FOR

13685
11:36:58,543 --> 11:37:01,543
BEING HERE FOR 12 HOURS AND

13686
11:37:01,546 --> 11:37:03,582
40 MINUTES. WITH THAT WE ARE

13687
11:37:03,582 --> 11:37:04,583
IN RECESS.

13688
11:37:04,583 --> 11:37:06,983
NO MEETING NEXT WEEK.