[0:06] City. Because these days, guys. Location. Okay? Okay? Yes cute stuff this meeting as we make

[0:37] decisions for the city of self dance. Alan seymour present deborah grope present burger.

[0:49] hang furby hasn't roush creams aaron carpenter? I am certainly flatten appreciative of seeing a

[1:01] full the council donate a couple of weeks since we've seen that so glad to see everybody because

[1:08] we have a lot on our plate tonight, but, um, one of the items is the september 25th 23

[1:15] city council. Minutes have been presented to you and I need a motion to have those approved

[1:23] moved. Okay mr rose only papers say hi. And then october the second we had the world council

[1:33] work session meeting of the police station, and I need a motion to approve those as well.

[1:38] so moved okay, that's mr seymour . All them people. I okay? We have one appointment for tonight

[1:49] . Um, janelle alexander. To be reappointed to the pike and reckon committee would term that

[1:58] runs from december the 1st 2023 until november 30th 2026. So that requires a voice vote. I'm

[2:09] sure that we all know janelle. I don't want to put you on the spot and ask you for the speech

[2:15] . But I if you do have a moment, please for allowing me to surface. Is everyone. Okay

[2:24] that's really a lot of fun. This is my most favorite committee of it. Well, I'm glad to hear that

[2:31] . I'm sure aaron, you were you would agree with that. I agree with that. You would have a few

[2:37] committees. It's the most fun. Okay it's not. It looks like there's a good mix there, so I'm

[2:43] glad to, but we sincerely and any type of involvement that we can get from any of the citizens

[2:50] because be may make the decisions here. But we must never forget that it's

[2:58] everybody's city so we can help guide it. But we do appreciate your efforts and that of

[3:05] everybody else that helps us on different committees. So having said that, I don't think we need

[3:12] a motion. However um, we do need a voice vote. Table. All of your fever. I anybody not okay,

[3:26] janelle. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Follow up on generals point about if

[3:30] anybody's interested. Contact mackenzie. Yeah thank you, mr president. When the article came

[3:40] out in the paper, it listed four openings. Have you received contact cover letter and cds for

[3:47] anybody. Talking about those? I haven't received any applications yet. So I do have a

[3:55] couple that we had on file of general interest that I have submitted to the selection

[4:00] committee. But I haven't received any new applications yet. Okay thank you. So much.

[4:06] administrative reports. Thank you, mr president, members of council a few things tonight. I

[4:12] want to update you on one that is really highly highly utilized coming up on saturday, october

[4:20] 28th, from 10 to 2 at walgreens will be our prescription drug take back. So that is a saturday

[4:27] , october 28th from 10 to 2 again at walgreens. Uptown scary ville coming up saturday,

[4:36] october 28th same day from 10 am to noon. Kids could wear their costume. Costumes and visit

[4:44] uptown merchants for candy and other treats its sponsored by historic marysville business

[4:50] district association. So we're looking forward to saturday, october 28th on uptown, scary

[4:56] ville. Um then our community trick or treat, just as it can continue to reminder will be

[5:03] tuesday, october 31st. From 6 to 8 p.m. So tuesday, october 31st . A couple other things I want

[5:14] to report out on. We will be having a ribbon cutting at the reservoir connector bridge,

[5:22] which just looks awesome, by the way is thursday. This thursday, october 12th at 8:30 a.m. At

[5:31] mill valley central park that's at 701 millwood boulevard. So that will be 8 30 in the morning

[5:39] , a brief ceremony. Ribbon cutting what a fantastic addition to our to our, um,

[5:45] trail system. It's going to really enable a lot of people to make even better use of the

[5:53] reservoir as they utilize this bridge and will continue to make improvements along raymond road

[5:59] in the near future. To make that a safe transition as well. Then last. This is an insurance

[6:08] renewal update. You know, it doesn't happen quite often. Typically from year to year when

[6:14] you go and when you go to renew your medical, dental vision and life insurance, you're always

[6:22] looking at an increase, but I'm pleased to notified council tonight that the city received

[6:27] 0% increase across all lines of insurance due to the city's plan design management. And are well

[6:36] wellness program participation. That's almost unheard of anymore today, but just wanted you to be

[6:42] aware of that. I want to thank hr. Brian and his staff for staying on top of this this

[6:48] insurance or no process, and with that, I'll turn it over to jeremy on maintenance and

[6:53] operations. Thanks, terry. Um currently our city street crews are making massive crack repairs

[7:01] the us 33 and last week's concrete grinding efforts were successful from the water

[7:06] division. City crews are starting the second phase of the west third street waterline

[7:11] replacement project, and that's occurring between grand avenue and mary place, and then finally

[7:17] , city crews are finalizing cemetery foundations and the cemetery advisory board is

[7:22] meeting tomorrow. Uh am also meeting with consultants to provide guidance of both water

[7:27] reclamation facility and walk with the former water treatment plant this week, so hopefully

[7:31] some good things will come out of that, and now I'll turn it over to kyle for some capital

[7:38] improvement updates thanks, jeremy. Phase two. Construction continues this week with curb installation on the west side. Of the state route 31 creating around about the l one avenue

[7:49] roadway reconstruction project or contractor will be pouring curb on the north side of that

[7:54] room this week. Paving program contractor and the only outstanding items are contractor

[8:00] has is a little bit of trail paving and restoration work remaining in then construction

[8:07] continues this week at the uptown parking lot where contractors just prepping for

[8:13] asphalt installation. Those are all the updates. We have regarding the capital

[8:17] improvement projects. If you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer those concludes

[8:22] the administrative report. Unless there's questions question question on the parking

[8:27] lot. What's this scheduled? Completion scheduled completion is by the end of october. So you

[8:33] think it'd be done by scary still? 28 28. I'm. I mean, I would feel fairly confident that

[8:41] was done before then. Great. Okay there you go. Thanks optimistic? Yeah. Yeah we don't

[8:55] know what the weather is going to happen happen between now and then. But hmm. Cross our fingers

[9:01] , many wonderful. Any other questions for ministrations? Okay. Hearing none. Move on to

[9:09] report of political council. Thank you don't have anything to report tonight and we move on to

[9:16] report of economic development and I do think that it has a presentation to do. Thank you,

[9:24] mr president. Council members only 37 slide presentation, but we'll go through it very quickly

[9:30] . Uh apologize, but I think it's very important on the importance of what I'm going to talk about

[9:36] first before I do that we do have our next speaker series event coming up on october 18th

[9:41] of 5 30. We had lydia maccaulich, who's the director of development for the state of

[9:45] ohio. As well as kelly macdonald from one columbus. The columbus partnership is going to speak

[9:50] about economic development about housing what it means to ohio and with the pressure with intel

[9:55] with the harder investment as well, so we invite everyone to come out. But it's a 5 30. It's

[10:01] gonna be really neat event so only an hour of your time, and it's free of charges at the

[10:05] avalon and uptown marysville. Um but thank you. Welcome to come out and go to that tonight we're

[10:10] gonna give an overview of 33 events are three things that we really worked hard over the last

[10:17] few months to bring together and , uh, first before going in. This is important to note that

[10:23] honda since 1970 nineties invested over $14 billion in ohio. About half that is in our

[10:30] county were blessed with what honda has done. They've constructed over well over 4

[10:35] million square feet in the county. It is the heart of holiday in north america, and it

[10:40] continues to be that way. And we're proud of that. But to follow honda, we now have 2010

[10:45] japanese companies that called mary's one union county at home and so that is one of the

[10:51] reasons why we do this mission and why it's important to our future. Furthermore we have one

[10:57] of the largest k 12 and japanese language programs in ohio. You here that said a lot. We have

[11:02] the columbus japanese language or excuse me to columbus, japanese saturday school here at

[11:07] marysville, so we have a huge japanese presence in our community. And this last month

[11:14] has been a number of things, including a student exchange program, the grassroots summit

[11:18] that I'll talk about as well as your you're paying mission. A lot of people here tonight.

[11:24] we're part of that mission, and I know the president council. Hank was with us. Terry was with us. We have j. Reilly who attended as a fire chief at that time need to knowles from the

[11:34] library. And I can't forget jenelle. Jenelle actually took us to the airport at 3 a.m. In

[11:38] the morning and she was there to pick us up and bring us home. So we appreciate you, nell and her

[11:44] time that she spent with us as well. And stop me. I'm gonna go through these sites quickly. I

[11:48] know that hank and terry and others are going to order talk as well. But really, this is

[11:53] what I'm going to talk about it kind of give you an overview. But his first important to talk

[11:57] about first our accomplishments in 2012 and 2013 to talk about the japanese mission and why we

[12:05] do it. We did a sister city city visitor friendship seat of it to your e. We did the midwest years

[12:09] japan conference. We did business retention visits, as well as expansion visits as well

[12:15] student exchange program and also the grassroots summit. So looking at, you know some of the

[12:21] things that we worked on. We actually had the former consul general among sudarsan. Actually

[12:27] this is actually 2013 not 2012. This is when we started the friendship city with your machi

[12:33] , and this was actually then mayor gore and in monsoon season who were signing, actually not

[12:38] miss citizen. This is, um mayor mcada chamonix on my suit is arm was in the consul general who

[12:46] actually set up the relationship between us and your e. But this is them, signing it in the fire

[12:50] station, actually, and this started the relationship between yuri machi reason why we were

[12:56] matched. When you worry monty from susan was because you already had the newest honda

[13:00] plant in japan and still is the newest how to plant in japan. We have the oldest japanese honda

[13:07] plant in the u. S. But this was done in december of 2013. So some of the things that we work

[13:15] on or have worked on since 2013 . You can see we've done five missions to japan. We have a

[13:20] friendship garden, the city investor partners park. There is a stone or a rock. It's hard to

[13:26] call it a stone. It's massive, isn't it? A ton of how much does it weigh? Jeremy we waited. Did

[13:32] we not see it weighs a lot multiple tons. But actually is from the arakawa river. There,

[13:38] eric are river goes through your demaci headwaters are in the blue mountains, which are next

[13:43] to your e headwaters of tokyo bay, so it falls flows into tokyo bay as well. Our gift back

[13:48] to your machi was a three d printed covered bridge parkersburg bridge that was done

[13:54] by students bustled. In partnership with honda, and that was 35 inches in length. We have

[14:00] a replica down in down in the as you enter into city hall. But we have that and it was also

[14:06] installed or placed on 100 year old barn wood, and that's that's that's another thing that's

[14:10] important with our history to show him the bridge to the future and what we want to do

[14:16] from a history standpoint, we also are working with miramonte hassan kiko. She went on the

[14:21] trip with us and talked about japantown. We actually have a contingent from the division of

[14:26] land ministry from japan, actually visiting marysville later this month. The talk about

[14:31] japantown and what it means to japan and also the companies we started in 2020, a group of

[14:37] logan, miami, shelby and union counties to talk about the importance of honda each of our

[14:42] respective communities because each heart has a facility each of these communities and now now

[14:46] we've added fayette county to that list as well. And then we also have a friendship committee

[14:51] that oversees a lot of these activities to further the relationship with japan. So some

[14:56] of our youth focused efforts very important part of this. The japanese language program nearly

[15:00] 300 students on an annual basis . We have the exchange program, which we had them in august. Of

[15:06] course, next year we'll send students do you re machi? We have the japanese language school 400. Japanese students actually attend that. Every saturday 400 come to marysville.

[15:18] so a little bit about the business mission. We had 11 delegates over 11 days that that

[15:24] went from the county from the city. We also joined other leaders from the columbus region

[15:29] , logan county, franklin county city of dublin city of columbus , fayette county, the hostel

[15:34] university one columbus and jobs, ohio. We're all part of that mission. There were 62

[15:39] total hyo delegates by far the largest delegation. At the midwest, us to pay in conference

[15:45] we also visited your e. We had a library exchange meetings. We had a fire exchange meeting as

[15:51] well. Attended the n w. J a visited the mirrors or union county companies. Seven in total

[15:57] , and we also call on companies consider expansion through retro while we're while we're in japan. These are our delegation members. Of course. Um president counseling bourbon. We had terry

[16:07] . We had j. Dave burke. Commissioner burke. Bill nard, uci nisa and then also adam and

[16:14] donna burke went as well. Kiko miramonte to her son called her went and again. She's a local

[16:19] broker that places expats in the columbus region has big a big promoter of marysville for very

[16:26] long time. So um, your ears located in the northwest part of saitama prefecture. We actually

[16:36] had an opportunity to meet with governor ono song innocent is the governor of saitama

[16:41] prefecture. We actually invited him to marysville next year when it comes to columbus because the

[16:46] w j will be in columbus first time that's been in ohio thinking nearly 30 years now.

[16:51] and it is the primary industries are retail, medical, forestry, agriculture and manufacturing.

[16:58] here it's probably consider a larger city there. It's a very small city because tokyo when

[17:04] you have 35 million people, everything seems very small when you're in a city when the city

[17:09] that large this is our welcome sarah ceremony. When we first arrived, and you were machi we

[17:16] actually arrived on we left mary's well on a on a saturday morning we arrived in newry and

[17:22] excuse me in tokyo on a sunday afternoon, and we had our first meeting on monday morning at

[17:28] your e city hall. But this is mayor. Many dishy that actually addressing the crowd, and this is a picture that mayor burr b. And many catchy song actually took as part of the welcome

[17:38] ceremony. This is our welcome the marrow dress at the dinner, first dinner mayor burbey to the

[17:44] left, and we have mitigation song to the right if you notice there are these shirts that

[17:49] everyone is wearing the city bought those as part of our celebration to celebrate our 10

[17:56] year anniversary. It has the marysville logo in new york machi logo on those shirts and

[18:00] typically japanese are going to dress up when they come to events like this, but a ton of

[18:06] them more. The t shirts like I think that was terry's idea. It was really cool idea because it

[18:12] brought down the formality. I think of some of the situations honda you replant. As you can

[18:18] see to the left. This is a haunted dealership to the right. The ori plant is pretty amazing

[18:23] and massive. It's I think it's the largest manufacturing plant in japan newest plant as well.

[18:28] they actually combined a couple plans to make that plan a reality. It sits on on time but

[18:33] like a mountain of major hill, but it's a really cool experience to go through the

[18:37] tour and understand the what it means they're holding. It's different than our plant. When

[18:43] you go to marries water plant. It's a little older as we know it's so. Our plans a little bit

[18:49] more confined when you look at our plant where their plan is more open and very easy to get

[18:54] through as well, but it's a cool experience to go there. So this is the fire department states.

[18:59] I'm gonna have j. Reilly come up and talk about the fire exchange that we had during our visit.

[19:04] just gonna do it from back here. Um we had a great exchange. Um, I was able to meet with the fire

[19:10] chief from your e. We talked a lot about how the structure of the fire department is. There's this regionalized where that's where our state legislature wants us to go to, and they're

[19:20] looking to go regress back to be locally controlled. Um very interesting. Um we were able to

[19:28] experience them. They went on the run while we were there. The chief and I sat and talked at

[19:33] length and then I was able to invite him to come to marysville. Next year. Um from

[19:39] there, we went to tokyo and I visited the local tokyo fire department. Um tokyo fire

[19:44] department has 18,600 firefighters. It's the largest fire department in the world,

[19:50] and, uh they were very welcoming . They are. They are great lovers of history. They have

[19:55] fantastic information really showed me disappointed the fire department from there we went to

[20:01] osaka and I visit the osaka fire department made contacts there as well. Learned a lot about e.

[20:07] m s and what their level of services. Um how it's very different from ours are

[20:13] paramedics are much higher, trained and able to give different skills, so it's

[20:19] interesting what their level of what they consider paramedic is to what what we provide here in

[20:24] marysville and then because I had such a good visit at the tokyo fire department, they

[20:29] invited me back to the headquarters when we went back to tokyo. Um I was able to go to

[20:34] their regional headquarters in downtown do the imperial palace and once again fantastic lot of

[20:40] information. I actually went to achieve burns's officers meeting last week and did an in depth

[20:48] presentation to them to make sure that they were aware of this and to be part of future

[20:53] relations with your fire department. So thank you. Thank you. Really cool experience. All

[21:02] of us got a chance to go to the fire department. It's really cool to see this is actually a

[21:07] training building to the rear, where they train and multiple story buildings as well. Right

[21:12] behind the fire department. It was right next to our hotel, so it's very convenient. Next we

[21:16] have a library exchange and I'm not going to steal the thunder niece and he says, part of that

[21:21] and actually has some great things going on in our lives to support your readers. Well yes.

[21:26] so we did a library exchange this past year with iori library and I have to admit that when I

[21:31] got there, I have never felt like so much of a celebrity. Um they were the their director was

[21:38] you go here? Hiroshima? And she was so excited to see me couldn't believe I had really

[21:47] come. And I think I had a little bit of tears in my eyes, too, because I couldn't believe I was

[21:52] really there. Um we have sent their library a box of books about marysville about ohio. Um

[22:04] . Some community reports, county and city reports and since I was sending reports, I also decided

[22:12] well, let's just talk the library annual report in here, too. She had read that cover to

[22:18] cover. Not that it's that long. It's only you know, four pages but had read the whole thing had

[22:25] had translated the parts. She didn't understand herself. And just could not believe the

[22:31] number of people we had coming into our library and the, um, circulation the usage like we

[22:38] have well. In fairness, ohio does have the highest library usage in the country. So I try

[22:45] to put that into perspective for myself. Um but they made a beautiful display. And I just

[22:54] behind us here on the photos and they made a wonderful display. We have a lot to live up to.

[23:02] when they come to visit us to come with up with an equally vibrant display that represents

[23:08] the sister city program. It was magnificent and I am so honored to have been invited to

[23:16] participate in this program. They also sent us a box of materials to do with your e and

[23:22] we have those on display. We also will be adding to the display them some of the

[23:28] materials she gave us for our library when I visited, so thank you. Thank you for the

[23:35] invitation to go. That was just so interesting. Thank you, lisa. He did add a lot to the again.

[23:43] we do this for the youth. And that is another youth. I think, um, um, item to have because

[23:49] when the youth go to library, they can learn a lot more about our two communities very important. Speaking of that we went to the ori junior high school, and, uh, this was

[23:59] actually an english class that we got to participate or not participate. Really we just

[24:03] watched them and they were doing group sessions in talking in english, and we listen to them

[24:09] and they can speak in yourself a lot better. We can speak japanese, except for terry. He's

[24:14] fluent now in japanese. I think so. He's got it under control. This is again chichibu amounts

[24:19] to the top left eric holder river. Farming is so important to them and the care they give.

[24:26] and I wouldn't go. I guess everyone in the in our delegation and say why why

[24:32] didn't you mention this? They're asian pears are amazing. They're grapes are amazing. They're fruits are amazing and vegetables are amazing. That's tlc to everything they do from a

[24:41] vegetable stand point and you can eat the grapes and the grapes and this tells you about

[24:46] this. They are judged on the amount of sweetness in each grade, and that's how what the

[24:50] price of the grape is. So it's that's how they're judged and you eat one. It's kind of like a

[24:55] dorito relations potato. You can't stop eating the grapes when you're over there, but it's

[25:00] just amazing what they do with their fruits. Um the business retention visits. We had seven companies. Honda world headquarters, of course. Honfest facility in your e mini

[25:09] abatement. Sumi honda logistics , which also includes midwest express and one world logistics

[25:15] and international transport. Neon plastic parent of neat inc . Based in marysville, more

[25:20] youku, sumitomo. Jetro that's where we met with about 75 japanese companies that attended

[25:28] that they japan midwest us association conference in tokyo . And then we also met with the

[25:35] ministry of land, tearing myself with akiko to talk about japantown and what it means to japan. This is our first meeting or not meeting actually with with honda mayor burbey as well

[25:46] as commissioner burke attended this event with other officials from logan county, dublin in

[25:51] franklin county. You can see everyone in the picture, so this was the harder meeting. This

[25:56] isn't their world headquarters. The bottom floor of the honda would headquarters is a car

[26:01] dealership. Very very appropriate car dealerships that's cool. Ah this is mid abatement. Sumi this is former honda log based here in marysville. Um probably one of

[26:10] the more incredible visits that we had a really cool. This was actually an experience center

[26:16] for visitors that visited their headquarters. We got a sneak preview. It hadn't opened up. It

[26:21] was opening up in like in two weeks after we after after after our visit, and they open it up

[26:25] for us and took us through it, and it was really, really cool. We have a call with men

[26:30] abatement, sumi this wednesday night to talk about smart city solutions. And how they could be

[26:35] partners. With marysville going forward. We also drive ohio net call and others as well.

[26:39] participating with men abatement. Sumi. What? What a cool company that we visited here. This is hannah logistics. Mayor burbey here. This is the mayor star mayor of bell found

[26:48] involved right from logan county . This is a joint meeting we did with our friends in logan

[26:53] county. Midwest express hunt logistics. One global logistics is split in half straddles two

[26:57] counties union county in logan county. That's why we do a joint visit but really cool

[27:02] opportunity to visit with him, and we had the president of honolulu's logistics as part of

[27:06] this visit. This is necessary international transportation. This is neon plaster, right?

[27:13] neon places' located in shizuku shizuko is right on the on the foothills of mount fuji. So we

[27:21] get off at the stop or mount fuji is and we have to travel 40 minutes by car to this visit.

[27:28] this is more you could. This is actually the president more youku. He knows benny's pizza

[27:33] and he's the president. More youku, and in these meetings, benny's was a common common

[27:38] theme. People know mary's will for beddings, and it's kind of kind of strange, but but but

[27:43] it's also we know it and the japanese love bennies. And so they talk about that sumitomo.

[27:48] another important visit. Um and this was in osaka. This was this is about a 3.5 hour train ride

[27:55] from tokyo. To a soccer and this is our visit. We've visited sumitomo and also missing and

[28:02] also harder all five times we've been in in in in japan. This is the conference. These are some

[28:11] of our friends from the ohio delegation, rahm emanuel as the ambassador of japan, u s

[28:15] ambassador to japan. We actually had a reception at his residence , which is next the u. S embassy

[28:22] . He gave an amazing speech. It was raw, raw, raw about the midwest core values heart of the

[28:29] heart of the u. S. Flyover country, he said everything appropriate to talk about the

[28:33] midwest and did a great job. But we interacted with with rahm as well. We talked to the staff of

[28:39] the top left. That's the governor of saitama prefecture, next to mayor burbey ono song

[28:44] and again, we've invited him back to visit mary's and when he comes to columbus next year.

[28:51] this is the opening ceremony. Rome actually, we got to hear him the night before he spoke

[28:56] and did the same spiel the next day and talked about how important about 450 people

[29:00] attended where the largest delegation from ohio one of the reasons why we're hosting the

[29:05] conference next year. This is the jetro visit. This is these are japanese companies and it

[29:11] was really, really cool in this meeting. Right right. Terry was really, really cool. The air

[29:16] conditioners from there was hardly in here in this meeting, and we were pretty hot in this

[29:21] meeting, but it was a great opportunity to speak to these companies about expanding in the

[29:26] beta district and all the things that we're doing here, and we presented that to these

[29:30] companies. This is the mystery of land. We met with them to talk about japantown. That's

[29:35] akiko san, in the middle, of course, tearing myself this is lindsay from the city of dublin.

[29:41] so students change from first and foremost before I go that direction, terry, did I miss anything about the mission? No, you had it. Ah the exchange program. We had 10 students and

[29:54] three chaperones. I think some of all of you probably saw them around town, but they did a lot

[29:59] of things. They got to tour the heritage center. As you can see, they went to the japanese.

[30:04] saturday school. They visited and toured uptown marysville. They went to the stem school,

[30:10] coz I. Columbus zoo marysville,f activities during the eight days they were here. We had 10 host

[30:16] families. The three chaperone stayed in the hotel. And originally, if you recall the

[30:21] first year we did 16 students. 16 students are very, very hard to manage. So we went down to 10

[30:27] so but a great experience for these students again. Um they love american pizza. It's a

[30:32] common theme as well. They really love. These are more pictures here as well. During

[30:36] your visit, but they had a lot of fun and again their english. The building there with their

[30:43] english is so improved during the eight days they're here. This is that a commissioner's

[30:49] meeting. City council has never in session the week they're here would bring them here. They

[30:53] always come a week that you're that you're not in session. This is them going to the unit county

[30:58] courthouse. This is a picture of the last day. This is the farewell so ceremony where they

[31:05] got up and talked in english. Their speeches in english, which is pretty amazing. Grassroots

[31:12] summons. So this is an adult exchange program columbus hosted for the first time ever, and we

[31:17] had nine japanese with eight host families and I have to step back. We've had 18 host families

[31:24] in marysville, and this year families that have opened their doors to have students as well

[31:29] as adults be part of their family for a few days there during the summer. And I can't

[31:34] say enough about their ability and their willingness to be partners in this because that's

[31:39] what makes this really special to have eight families open their doors for nine adults.

[31:44] they were here we took him on a tour of uptown, the covered bridge tour. More youku tour

[31:49] mayors will stem school and mayors. Oh high school as part of their tour. There was there

[31:54] was a beginning ceremony and farewell ceremony as well. Um I think thank you participate in

[31:58] both of those as well. But it's a great experience of let them learn. Learn about america. Most

[32:03] of them had been to the u. S but it was they still learned a lot during during the visit, and I

[32:08] don't know hank, if you want to add anything to the visit. And not that particular visit. I

[32:13] have some comments about our other pieces. Very good. This is a picture. Other pictures

[32:19] covered bridge tour. Steve stoll , d, um, they showed up two hours early. We called steve the

[32:25] day before or the day before. They showed up two hours early. And hey, hick, archer. Hey steve , can you give him a tour of the covered bridge? He said, sure. And so he gave him a tour of the

[32:34] government bridges the next day, so we appreciate steve actually doing that. Just some pictures through uptown as well had a great time. So one of our next steps going forward, and this is

[32:45] slide 36, which is good news for everybody, but it really won't want to continue to build our

[32:49] cultural ties and relationships through business and industry brought also through our

[32:54] students and through our friendship city next year. We do have a conference in columbus,

[33:00] and we're excited about that. We have. We will be inviting mayor many dishy to visit mary, as

[33:05] well as part of that the governor of saitama prefecture as well owner song. And then

[33:10] also potential city and county sponsors were more likely going to be asked for sponsorship of

[33:15] this conference is probably the next time we host. This is going to be many years away as well.

[33:20] so this is a great opportunity to make the community shine. Next year. We'll send 10

[33:24] students to your hamachi and then division of land ministry actually visit marysville later this month to talk about japantown and what it means to this community. So those are

[33:34] kind of our next steps. They're probably many others we could list here. But these are some of

[33:39] the things will be working on over the next year as we move forward, but again, this has

[33:44] been a amazing month. You know everything I do in my daily job. I have to say this is one of the

[33:51] more rewarding. Uh and it's really a fun experience to get involved and get engaged. Again

[33:56] we appreciate all that honda does. We appreciate all the investments that japanese

[34:01] companies have made in our community? It's so important to our future cannot say that

[34:05] enough. Um you know, we, um I think 20% of the workforce here . The jobs provided here are

[34:11] provided by japanese companies. And that's something that we can never forget. And it's important

[34:17] to our future as we as we look to build these ties, another cool contact is we got a chance

[34:23] to talk with. I think the chief of staff, I think it was the chief of staff of rama. Emanuel

[34:28] we're going to be reaching out to the u. S embassy in japan and to try to build more

[34:33] relationship with other japanese companies that call and help through their office. So that's another another reach out that will be making to the u. S. Embassy. So with that I don't

[34:41] have any additions from terrier. Two things I would add. I would encourage city council members

[34:49] since it is in columbus. Maybe try to make time to go see and attend the conference. I you

[34:57] know, it's we're fortunate to be able to have it here in columbus , and we probably are going to

[35:03] be sponsoring to some level. So again, I would encourage that. Secondly I want to give a lot of

[35:11] credit to eric and his staff, the planning and the preparation that goes to putting these

[35:18] agendas together is unbelievable . How detailed it is, and, um, we even have. We're kind of.

[35:30] looked at, even among the ohio contingent kind of looks at us a lot of times and asks us how

[35:36] we're doing it. Have you know how we're handling things and no, don't reach out to eric.

[35:41] just check on exactly how our schedule is working with their schedules and things like that.

[35:47] so it's an enormous amount of work for several months to position so I want to thank eric

[35:56] because he positioned as well, uh, on visiting all the locations we visited, and hank

[36:05] burbey was awesome during this, you guys he spoke in your e and various meetings with these

[36:13] companies and really did a fantastic job. And I wanted to thank hank for the for the

[36:20] leadership he showed as we visited all these locations and these companies, and you did a

[36:27] great job, hank. Thank you. Yeah, and I definitely do an echo. Terry with he goes through

[36:34] the scheduling and all the work that they go into it because we spent about six months in

[36:43] preparation in comparison to our neighbors to the south, that all of a sudden realized that oh,

[36:52] we're going to japan, and within two weeks there the delegation together and they would have

[36:56] wanted that we're asking us but what really impresses me. So much is what level of trust that

[37:04] we three days have been able to create. Outside this has been 10 years. And if you look at the

[37:12] solution that was made 10 years ago, it was to do exchanges. It was both for students as well as

[37:20] adults. So the spirit of the agreement I mean, we followed that to a t. This was our 10

[37:29] year anniversary. And it was just from a yuri standpoint. Yeah mayor negishi the evening

[37:39] so in the morning, you do the official starts and in the evening you all have dinner

[37:43] together, and he and I was sitting at the head of the table and we became so involved with

[37:49] the help of a interpreter. Then, after an hour and 15 minutes. You know somebody tapped in his

[37:56] shoulder and said, don't forget you have other people out there because what they do differently

[38:03] than we do is that we have a city council. We have a county. They have a school. They have

[38:09] everything together. Yeah and currently they are looking to what they call decentralizing.

[38:15] so he was squeezing me. Yeah. How does your system work? Because I was system works, but

[38:23] we feel that there is a better system and we're looking at you for. How does your system in

[38:28] decentralization works? And who would have thought that those kinds of conversations would be

[38:35] part of the exchange? The other one that I found also on the list, of course, was midwest

[38:42] express. Midwest express between us and logan is 3500 employees and to get the assurance from

[38:52] them and saying that they are already now planning for 2040. Yeah, so here, this 2023.

[39:02] they're already planning for 2040 what the company will look like and what kind of work did

[39:07] they will do? And then the last but not least, it was mr ogata. And you may remember him of it.

[39:14] the more you of what he told me in osaka. Now he was actually the person that started the

[39:22] factory out here, so he was very well aware he used to live in dublin in the is that, of course

[39:30] banish was his favorite place. Yeah but we when we asked them and said, what do you anticipate

[39:38] your involvement will be with the new under factory that building together honda lg open

[39:45] independent field, and he said, it's ironic that you say that because he said. If the factory

[39:50] is going to be less than 50 people we will add to the management will. If it's more

[39:57] than 50, we will probably need to make a branch out in fairfield to make that factory

[40:03] out there. And those are the kinds of conversations where when you share that type of

[40:08] information, and you touched each other because you both want to continue to work as a

[40:15] partnership, and every place that we went to we, we at this point you mentioned it. Um have

[40:22] have been able to gain the trust . They are very impressed with the fact that we are involved

[40:30] with the student program that we do the dress suit that we are making an effort. You know,

[40:36] because again if you look at it at the end of the day 20% of our workforce in union county, wash.

[40:42] for a japanese company. Yes so we need to keep that in mind, and it just that level of touch

[40:51] that they that we have now been able over time to establish is a big plus for any future visit

[40:59] that we have. So it again. I was able to make the trip basically following jr in 2019 and learned

[41:11] from that, and I think it has helped me to amend. Honestly, too. Um to be able to talk with

[41:22] the folks out there that have their headquarters in japan and be very comfortable where we are

[41:29] and the level of service because every place that we went to we heard a lot of good things about

[41:34] union county. Yeah I would agree, and I can't echo. First of all as thank you did a great

[41:41] job. Terry did a great job and it was overall a great mission. Probably the best we've ever had

[41:45] from earlier. I think everyone is excited about getting a covid and building those relationships. But again, you've got to think about where the midwest is and where japan we

[41:54] have a lot of simulators from a from a family standpoint from a work ethic standpoint,

[42:00] responsibility standpoint, that's why you have a midwest us japan association. That's why

[42:05] why you have this conference? That's why in ohio we know how to build things we had to. Grow

[42:10] things. Those are two things we can we can never forget very similar to the japanese culture

[42:15] , and that's why we get there's a lot of things we understand about each other, and I think

[42:19] that's another thing that benefits this relationship going forward. Absolutely and I appreciate, um city council and their support of this, and I think it's again a really a

[42:29] great effort to build these relationships but again. I'm I'm happy that you allow me the

[42:35] opportunity to do this because it's very rewarding, and it's awesome to see how we build

[42:39] these relationships and partnerships. So at this point at any questions for sectarian

[42:47] me on this mission, or. Lisa the only question I would have is for nisa. So you say, ohio had

[42:57] it reached, you know, uses the library more than any than any other state, united states. So

[43:02] which state doesn't they don't use the library as much as any other state. Looks aptly. Okay

[43:10] that's alright. You don't have to hire was yeah. She made that very clear. Better news about

[43:18] that ohio is ohio goes amiss. That's good morning in japanese , ohio because I'm it's that's

[43:24] easy for us. First easy for us. We can say ohio goes hamas means good morning. There you go. Mhm.

[43:30] okay? Thank you very much. Eric. Appreciate it. Oh okay. Now we come to the, um sorry before I

[43:43] do that parks and rec commission reports. Thank you, mr president . It's going to be difficult to

[43:49] follow that presentation, which was amazing. Um the parks and rec commission met last month.

[43:54] september 19th. Relatively short meeting will go over the notes that we have from that meeting.

[44:00] so in the month of september, the pool entrance there was an eagle scout that was working on

[44:06] a project. There that has since been complete as you can stop by the entrance to the marysville

[44:10] municipal pool to check that out. Um, the pickleball court at greenwood park. That is set to

[44:19] be complete and open and spring of next year since spring 2024 you can look forward to that.

[44:24] the tennis court at louis park has a completion date of roughly the end of this month, october

[44:31] city staff last month was in the process of starting to winterize the pool for the winter months.

[44:37] um, the mainline irrigation system at the marysville police department. They are working on

[44:42] rerouting that um working on foundation prep at the cemetery for this year. Let's see the

[44:50] elder park map. So if you go to the park, they have a map of the elder park that has been

[44:56] updated. As you can see that map if you go to the park, and the city would actually like to use

[45:02] that as a model for all of our parks, so it's a nice sign. We'd like to use that same style. For

[45:08] all of our parks. It'll just take time for us to get there is a city let's see. Last month, city staff was in the process of quoting repairs to the gazebo at partners park. Started the

[45:19] fourth round of annual fertilizer last month. There's a new playground to be installed

[45:24] alders gate park this fall. And just the general note I have is the city's is maximizing our

[45:33] resources to, um, you know, with the reduced staffing, we lose a lot of employees that go back to

[45:39] school or whatnot. So we're maximizing resources with the limited staff that we do have.

[45:44] there was one agenda item, which we actually discussed lacks last week at our work session. It's

[45:49] the rate review for facility costs and city fees. Which the parks and rec board approved

[45:56] unanimously. We heard a last week at the work session. Ah, that was the only agenda item

[46:02] that we had. And then I asked amanda when we could hear christmas music uptown and she

[46:07] told me it is the week of thanksgiving is when we can expect that. So those are my

[46:12] updates. Um, let me know if you have any questions, please. Okay. Any questions for aaron?

[46:18] okay thank you very much, and now we come to the portion of hearing of citizens where

[46:24] citizens have an opportunity to talk on any item that's not part of the nature agenda and you

[46:30] have a chance to talk for up to pave minutes again on an hmm. Topic that's not part about the

[46:36] knights agenda. Hearing none. We move on to the business for the night and we have a resolution

[46:46] resolution a reading only to authorize the services that the city of marysville will provide

[46:52] . Should the plus or minus 254.804 acres located in dover in paris townships union county,

[47:00] ohio, contiguous to the city of marysville be annexed into the city and to provide for buffer

[47:06] requirements. Okay ministrations . We have positioned ourselves well, to be able to serve this

[47:13] area and the work that we've been able to do on the sewers from station there, which was a

[47:19] substantial investment will go a long way and serving this area. Jeremy kyle. Anything else to

[47:24] add. Okay okay. That's counsel have any questions for administration or and again?

[47:31] this one is, uh, just to authorized to service. This is not a inc request is it is to

[47:41] authorize should it should property owners want to be incorporated. Then we this one

[47:47] will give us give them the. Security that we will service the area. Okay and he's citizens

[47:56] that I would like to comment on this item. Mr president. I'd make a motion to pass the

[48:06] legislation. Okay, local, please , mr roush? Yes mr reems? Yes mr carpenter. Mr seymour? Yes mrs

[48:14] groat? Yes mr berger? Yes mr burbey? Yes yes. Motion passed ordinance, um, became to the

[48:24] ordinance portion of the legislation ordinance, a third reading title, only to approve

[48:32] planning commission's recommendation to amend section 11 to 1.07 suburban residential

[48:38] district lot coverage standards for single family detached, single, family attached

[48:43] community center, institutional flex and multi family building. Typology ease of the planning

[48:48] and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. Okay and I believe

[48:53] there is a presentation on this. Yes staff based on the comments from the last council meeting

[49:00] staff has worked hard to try to work into the suggestions the council had made, I think, are

[49:07] you going to break those down a little bit, uh, slides where we go through each amendment early?

[49:14] yeah we can talk about what those changes are. Goodness item for s r d. We have the single

[49:25] family detached was the one that was under discussion last meeting and so we are proposing

[49:32] that to be at 55. And the other ones would remain the same as the original proposal. 60 70 70

[49:38] 60. Okay? Hmm and I do believe that the meeting was held with staff. Would you be able to

[49:47] elaborate and yet not so much other than to kind of recap where we were with this? My

[49:54] proposal as as it was originally as we currently have is 40% my proposal that we talked about

[50:02] last week was was raising it to 60% is quite a bit and my proposal was to move it to 50%

[50:09] meet in the middle, and I think mr reems suggested 55. And as a part of our discussion, I met

[50:17] with ashley and jeff and. And they've come back to us with the proposal of 55, okay? So that's

[50:26] going to be up to us to decide if we want to make that amendment commission's

[50:30] recommendation, okay? All right, um. Single family the next one, the 40. Single family attached.

[50:42] goes to 60. My proposal once again was 50, but I don't I don't think there was much

[50:49] alignment from this group. I still feel that way, but, um, it's presented to us tonight as

[50:56] unchanged from the recommendation. Okay? So somebody else wanted to jump on

[51:05] that that would need to be done . In amendment, mrs god, no further amendments. Just a

[51:10] question reaffirmation. There is no difference between permeable , impermeable penetrable

[51:18] impenetrable. In any of this, you have taken away. That distinction. Is that a correct

[51:26] statement? We have added in that into our definition. Um so the heartless surface whether it's

[51:36] permeable or impermeable in impervious or pervious. It would be, yeah. So essentially

[51:42] regardless. Ah! Percentage we are talking about no significant difference in how this would

[51:54] affect water storm sewer if you are putting those two things in the same basket. This is merely

[52:06] , um, something for cosmetic purposes. Is that correct? We are taking into account the

[52:19] green space within here. Um so, like you know how much green spaces is going to allow to

[52:25] assist with that storm water management over all over the city as a whole, and that is

[52:32] basically cosmetic. Which was what your email said when it was first presented. No one because

[52:39] medicaid would be helping the storm system. Through the community. That's not my

[52:45] understanding. If it's penetrable impenetrable, there's no difference between those two

[52:50] to the storm system. No, there's is completely different. Impervious the winery cannot sit

[52:59] down into the ground pervious. It can so there is a difference between the two. I understand

[53:05] the difference between pervious and impervious, okay? The point here is. There will be no

[53:12] difference. This is cosmetic, only in terms of the homeowners lot coverage. I guess I'm

[53:21] confused. Yeah, I'm. I'm sorry. I'm confused by the question. What do you mean no different

[53:31] metric, as opposed to affecting storm. Drainage if there is no difference between those two

[53:38] definitions. But there is a difference. If. If your legislation says there isn't

[53:48] then we are taking that into account into into the calculation of it. Yeah it's

[53:55] cosmetic. So thanks for answering that, okay? I mr. President I have a question,

[54:04] okay. My question only is I've had a couple of residents just reach out about this obviously,

[54:09] when something is being done, and you know, this will be through busia or city staff will

[54:15] be able to talk with the homeowner at their lot coverage maximizes what they can just

[54:20] like anything else would if they wanted to do something on their property in the city of

[54:25] marysville, is that correct? Yes they would. They would come to staff and we can have that

[54:30] discussion with what is your what are you looking to do? What is your lock coverage at now?

[54:34] what what ability is there and if we run into an issue, then we would have to discuss whether

[54:39] that that variance could be an option. Thank you guys. Okay and the other questions. So one

[54:46] question I have is, was there any thought to keeping two separate? Maximums so.

[54:54] previously it was a 40% lot coverage. With your house. But when we changed the definitions

[55:04] now we're trying to make sure that we capture sidewalks correct. Dex things like that.

[55:11] if we go to 55% and I don't I have a very small driveway. And no deck. I can still get to 55%

[55:21] coverage with just my house. Where somebody else may have a smaller house but have deck.

[55:30] wider driveway more sidewalks and still get to the 55% was there any thought to 40. For

[55:38] just the house. Like under the old definition, breaking down that calculation. Well, when we

[55:47] did these amendments, we took a look. We calculated, um, in those maps. We provided the

[55:52] council we calculated a lot of different parcels within the community to understand what

[55:58] they would be at with this new definition, so that's how we came up with the 60. But but no,

[56:03] we did not take into consideration. Having a separate number just for the house versus

[56:08] the other. That's based on the research that we had done in other communities as well that

[56:14] that wasn't separated that way. Okay simple combination of pervious and impervious cannot

[56:24] exceed 60. Repeat it again. The combination of previous and impervious not exceed, exceed

[56:38] 60% yes. Yeah so when you're saying, actually, I don't think that's accurate. Because if you

[56:44] combine impervious, impervious, that's 100% of the line. The total impervious. Yeah working.

[56:51] thank you. Thank you. That's correction makes sense. But that summary of those equals the

[56:56] percentage but that the total of the parking surface, the sidewalks, the decks and the

[57:05] structures. Okay impervious cannot exceed. 60% or 55% yes, that yes. So there's a flower

[57:17] bed get included now. And actually, if it was a rock bed. It would be included, okay? Hmm

[57:28] okay, but have so how about if you have a concrete walkway to go from your garage around your

[57:38] house to your patio in the back? If india's concrete it would be counted in the 60% but if it is

[57:47] example bed how do you? How do you perceive that which does let drainage through? Is that

[57:53] considered to be part of the 60 ? Or is it that in the sixties part of that 60 still be okay,

[57:59] so yeah, it was used as mulch. If you use like the stone malt in the landscape bad that's not

[58:07] counting against it. That's not compacted. He used for a panther or perking or something like

[58:12] that. That's where it's county. Yeah. Okay? Already are we all on the same page on this? Okay

[58:23] so any more conversation, so the question is, yeah. Um initially , the original a man, sorry, the

[58:36] original. Um um ordinance was for 60. And he's going to be an amendment to reduce the single

[58:48] penalty details to 55. That motion. Okay okay. So ready and local police. Mr reems? Yes mr

[59:01] carpenter? Yes, mr seymour. Mrs. Group? No. Mr berger. Mister burbey? Yes mr roush? Yes six

[59:10] years. Okay so we have six years , which is what we need. So we are now at the point that we

[59:18] need a motion to pass the legislation as amended. Make that motion. Mr president. It's

[59:25] . We're at second reading, so I think we would want to ask for public comment. Okay because

[59:33] second reading a dual publications that I didn't see that here, so, um so um, we need

[59:42] to hear citizens comments, please. Okay mr. President I would make a motion to waive

[59:52] third reading. Okay so called please, mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs groat? Yes, mr

[1:00:00] berger. Mister burbey? Yes roush? Yes, mr reems. Okay so now we get to the emotion to

[1:00:07] pester legislation. Mhm. Okay don't go, please. Mr seymour, mrs groat? No. Mr berger? Yes mr

[1:00:21] burbey? Yes mr roush? Yes mr reems. Mr. Carpenter yes. Six. Yes thank you very much. Moving

[1:00:29] onto ordinance be. Third reading title, only to approve planning commission's recommendation to

[1:00:37] amend section 11 to 1.08 suburban commercial district that coverage standards for

[1:00:43] commercial office. Institutional flex single family attached and multi family building. Typology

[1:00:49] is of the planning and zoning code modified ordinances of the city of marysville. I believe

[1:01:00] there was no change to that one. Is that correct? For single family cash going from reports

[1:01:09] 70% 60, okay. Okay? So any comments on this one. But there's no debate. I would move

[1:01:28] to amend planning commission's recommendations. To 60% from 70% to 60% okay, so there's a motion

[1:01:38] to amend local please, mrs group . No mr berger? Yes mr burbey? Yes mr roush? Yes, mr reems. Mr

[1:01:46] carpenter? Yes, mr seymour? Six. Yes already, so the motion passed. And again back to second

[1:01:54] reading any um citizens comments. Mr president. I'd make a motion to waive third reading,

[1:02:05] okay, we have motion to waive through reading. Local please. Mr berger? Yes mr burbey. Mr

[1:02:12] roush? Yes mr reems? Yes, mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs grope? Yes. Okay now we need a

[1:02:21] motion to pass. Mr president make a motion to pass ordinance be okay, and we pass as a as

[1:02:28] amended so. Local please. Mr burbey? Yes mr roush? Yes mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs

[1:02:40] groat? No, mr berger. Moving on to ordinance see. Third reading title, only to prove planning

[1:02:52] commission's recommendation to amend section 11 to 1.09 agricultural residential

[1:02:57] district coverage standards for single family detached building typology ease of the planning

[1:03:03] and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. Okay? Hmm looks like

[1:03:12] this one does not have any changes to it, okay? No hr rd. Hmm rounds don't see yes. Yeah

[1:03:30] okay, so that one is as originally, um, was scheduled and somebody is no amendment to

[1:03:42] this one, okay? And this one will move to pass the legislation. Okay mr seymour and

[1:03:49] moves to pass local please. Mr roush? Yes mr reems. Mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs.

[1:03:59] grope mr berger? Yes mr burpee. Six years moving onto ordinance d. Third reading title, only to

[1:04:09] approve planning commission's recommendation to amend section 11 to 1.10 village residential

[1:04:15] district coverage standards for single family detached, single family attached multi family and

[1:04:21] institutional flex building. Typology ease of the planning and zoning code of the codified

[1:04:27] ordinances of the city of marysville over presentation. Okay? So there was 71 item on

[1:04:33] this one. For single family details. The way eight. Okay? So the recommendation was 80. But

[1:04:54] we would change the amendment is 65. Okay I assume that you made the amendment. Yeah anybody any

[1:05:02] questions on this? Okay to amend the proposed 80% amended to 65% black coverage. Okay so we have

[1:05:15] a motion to amend, correct. Go ahead. Just from like staff. Just educate me so like, give me

[1:05:23] a house. And say 80% to like 65. So just, um like, you know. Um like sims world that's just

[1:05:35] build a house and say what? What would be what 80% would look like and then dropping it down

[1:05:41] to a 65? If that's possible. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, we do have, um I'm sorry

[1:05:48] if you're okay. We have a gis map. Um. Jeff would you be able to pull that up and maybe show

[1:05:57] him two examples? He can walk up and show you the map. We can maybe do this kind of live if

[1:06:04] you give us a minute here. Single family detached in prg. Yeah sure. Councilman burger

[1:06:24] real quick. So if you if you look at like a 60 by 1 20 lot, okay. 80% luck coverage would be

[1:06:33] . 5760 square feet. Okay 60% will be 4300. Square feet, so you're looking at about 1400

[1:06:46] square feet of difference between 80% to 60. Is that kind of what you were looking for?

[1:06:52] take the example that you're talking about. You could pave over your entire backyard. And

[1:07:00] be it 80. Then be the 80. Yeah. Can you repeat that? 80% would just about be the equivalent of

[1:07:09] paving over your entire backyard. And 20 year, 20% would be pretty close to what you

[1:07:17] would have on the front of the sides. Yeah. Uh, on a 60 ft wide light. You're you're gonna have

[1:07:27] a driveway? That's 16. 25 ft minimum. That's about 5% block coverage right there, right. And

[1:07:36] you take the rest of your lot is 60 take the 16 out. You know? You're going to be pretty close

[1:07:44] to that would be the only green space you have. If you were 80% yeah, the so that was. So if I'm

[1:07:52] understanding this correctly, that was my concern, dropping it down to 65. Because like like,

[1:08:00] educate, I mean, like, I'm might be confused but educated because on west like for instance what,

[1:08:05] so straight you have. There are backyards that had been asphalted over. And then you

[1:08:13] know, there's residential homes that are beside their that complain about flooding because the when they ask for them over its raised higher and you know, so the backyards flood so that's

[1:08:23] why if we drop it from all the way to 65% are we solving? The intent. Of why I thought this

[1:08:31] was going to do. I guess that's my concern is just my question directly equivalent to what most

[1:08:38] lots are now. Okay when you include in the things that weren't included before. The

[1:08:46] sidewalks, the decks, the parking area, you know, it's just 65% is roughly equivalent

[1:08:53] to what it was before the definitions were changed, okay? So just some numbers that from

[1:09:00] the g. I s map that we did. We looked at 264 parcels that were single family detached, nb argue

[1:09:05] district nine parcels or above 65% currently do definition. There was one person levels

[1:09:12] above 80. Find parcels and 264 that are above 65, which means the majority of it is hard

[1:09:21] hardscape already on their lot. I mean, if I'm not obviously if the if the majority of us say 65

[1:09:35] is okay, and you guys met on that I'm honestly not going to question that 65% but the that I

[1:09:41] guess dropping at 65. That was my concern, because I don't know if no two no disrespect to what

[1:09:47] you're trying to do. I just don't know if 65% is actually solving the issue. And we are.

[1:09:54] we had a lot of data that we discussed at plants meeting went over this for we kind of settled

[1:10:00] on that number. Okay, well then. I guess if you everyone's burger , I think if you went lower than

[1:10:08] 65% I think it would be very restrictive. Well proposal came to us at 80% coverage. We're

[1:10:18] asking to reduce that to 65% average, which allows for more greens. Green space, okay? So I

[1:10:27] apologize. That is that I had the numbers flipped. So my apologies for that one. So thank

[1:10:33] you for thank you for listening to me, but also wasting everyone's time tonight. Thank

[1:10:38] you. Already. So at this point any other questions? Okay? Um then we need a motion to amend

[1:10:49] the legislation. He did okay. Any other questions, please, mr reems? Yes mr carpenter? Yes, mr

[1:10:58] seymour wrote mr berger. Yes mr burbey? Yes mr roush? Yes. Six yes. Passed me back to second

[1:11:07] reading. Okay. Any hearing of citizens? Mr president. Make a motion to waive third reading.

[1:11:16] okay local, please, mr carpenter. Yes mr seymour. Mrs grow? Yes mr burbey. Yes mr

[1:11:25] roush? Yes mr reems. Mr. Burke er yes. Seven yes. Okay and now we need a motion to pester

[1:11:33] legislation. So moved. Local place. Mr seymour? Yes mrs grope ? No, mr berger? Yes mr burbey.

[1:11:43] mr. Roush yes, mr reems, mr carpenter. Six. Yes okay. Moving on to ordinance e. Third reading

[1:11:52] title, only to prove planning commission's recommendation to amend section 11 to 1.11

[1:11:57] neighborhood commercial district lot coverage standards for commercial institutional flex,

[1:12:02] multi family and single family attached. Building typology is the planning and zoning code of

[1:12:08] the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. Okay? It looks like the last coverage for

[1:12:16] those who are commercial 85% institutional plex 60% multifamily 65% and single

[1:12:25] family attached. 65. Hmm and I don't think that we have any amendments on this so we could

[1:12:32] move forward with the motion to pester legislation. So moved. Okay we have motion local place

[1:12:41] . No mr berger, mister burbey. Yes yes, mr reems. Mr carpenter ? Yes mr seymour? Six? Yes. Okay

[1:12:52] moving on to ordinance app. Don't reading title only to prove planning commission's

[1:12:58] recommendation to men's section 11 to 1.12 hospital mixed use district that coverage standards

[1:13:04] for single family attached. Multi mixed use multi family and office building typology ease of

[1:13:10] the planning and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. I do have a

[1:13:15] document to pull up. Okay so as the original legislation single family attached at 70% or do you

[1:13:25] have a visual on it, okay. Already done will wait for the visual. So the amendment on this

[1:13:38] would be for single family attached. Um and it would be going from the 70% to 60% as the

[1:13:47] amendment 60, okay? The others would remain at 70 70, then 80. The other ones are being mixed

[1:13:57] use multi permanently and office. Yeah so it's only the single family attached. That

[1:14:04] would be 16 instead of 70. Correct, okay? And if somebody wants to make that motion move

[1:14:13] to amend the recommendation of 70. To the proposed 70. Do the suggested 60% okay, 60% okay,

[1:14:27] attached single family attempts only singled him. Yeah, that's that's the only one item. Okay,

[1:14:33] um. Local place. Mr berger. Mister burbey? Yes yes, mr reems . Mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour.

[1:14:44] mrs. Grow six. Yes yes, motion passed back to second reading any questions on this from

[1:14:52] citizens? Mr president and make a motion away for third reading . We have emotion to wave to

[1:14:58] third reading local please, mr burbey. Yes yes. Reams yes, mr carpenter? Yes, mr seymour. Mrs

[1:15:08] grope? Yes mr berger? Yes okay. We need a motion to pass the legislation, please. President

[1:15:14] make a motion to pass ordinance g. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay passed . Ordinance f okay. Local please

[1:15:25] . Mr roche? Yes mr reems. Mr carpenter, mr. Seymour mrs grope ? No mr berger, mister burbey.

[1:15:34] yes yes, we only have three months ago. So okay. Ordinance g. Third reading title, only to

[1:15:45] prove planning commission's recommendation to men's section 11 to 1.14 white manufacturing

[1:15:50] district coverage standards for manufacturing and office slash warehouse flux building typology

[1:15:56] ease of the planning and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. Okay

[1:16:02] the recommendation is for manufacturing lot covered 75. And opposite warehouse flags.

[1:16:08] 75. Has anybody want to make a motion to change that, or do we leave it as it is? It is it is.

[1:16:21] okay believe it as it is local police sorry, emotionally pass the legislation, but you don't

[1:16:27] go, mr reems. Yes mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs grope? No mr berger? Yes mr burbey? Yes mr

[1:16:37] roush? Yes yes. Okay. Ordinance h. Third reading title, only to approve planning commission's

[1:16:45] recommendation to men's section 11 to 1.1. 1121.15 regional mixed use. District dot coverage

[1:16:53] standards for commercial mixed juice office and multi family building typology ease of the

[1:16:58] planning and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. So currently has

[1:17:06] to the recommendation is commercial at 85% coverage office. 70% makes use 85% a

[1:17:16] multifamily 70. Hmm is there anybody that wants to make any changes to this in the poem of a

[1:17:24] amendment? Okay passed the legislation. We have a motion to pass the legislation. Local

[1:17:32] police mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour? Yes mrs group. Mr berger? Yes mr burbey? Yes yes,

[1:17:41] mr reems. Yes motion passed ordinance. I third reading title , only to approve planning

[1:17:49] commission's recommendation to amend section 1139.0 60 standard solar energy system of the

[1:17:57] planning and zoning code of the codified ordinances of the city of marysville. I do have

[1:18:01] something to pull up again.

[1:18:20] been in discussions, um, staff and as well as our zoning. Originally we were proposing to

[1:18:31] remove the requirement for, uh, section to let her be there for the roof not handle shall not be

[1:18:39] installed on the front. Roof pitch. And last time we talked about maybe taking different

[1:18:44] considerations for uptown is well village residential district. So what we also did

[1:18:51] over the last few weeks. It took a look at what the total quantity solar permits that we

[1:18:56] had in the city. Um we have had 45, which is on the side or the rear and then 20 additional went

[1:19:05] too easy. A for variance request forward on the front room pitch. Only three of those were found

[1:19:13] either doing the uptown districts and one in village residential. So overall we've

[1:19:18] had 65 permits. I've seen first solar requests. So we during our discussions, we have proposed

[1:19:28] two options for to revise you. If we decide we don't want to go with this where we're completely

[1:19:35] removing that required it. Into options that we've been either. Continue with the issue of the

[1:19:43] theory in but we would, um limit that to the village residential three uptown districts, and that

[1:19:50] should only be considered if the roof configuration does not permit the solar to be installed

[1:19:56] on the side or that we are second option that we could permit it in all districts,

[1:20:04] except for b r p and then the three uptown district so they would be prohibited presidential

[1:20:10] of town commercial single family and uptown transitional districts. And that would be

[1:20:18] strictly for that front pitch facade would apply. Like option to better wherever not putting

[1:20:26] them on the front. Until technology catches up and it looks like a roof. But I kind of

[1:20:36] feel like maybe there should be an option. Three. Which is roof mounted solar panels prohibited

[1:20:41] on the front pitch facade. Period. An application for a variance should not be granted.

[1:20:51] all districts. I mean, if we care about what the uptown looks like, why wouldn't we care about

[1:20:57] what other parts of town look like? Right now that we do restrict that from all districts

[1:21:03] on the front roof edge. They should have been that various yeah, I know. I know some h o s

[1:21:11] have their own rules, and there's some changes that may be coming there in terms of what

[1:21:18] they can and can't do ages, um, that they can't restrict that they can't make unreasonable

[1:21:24] restrictions right so they may be able to keep a restriction on front facing because that might

[1:21:29] not be considered unreasonable. We don't know yet. Mr president. Um with regard to your data. Or

[1:21:41] maybe I should say your most recent agenda for easy a, I think. What's what's on that

[1:21:52] agenda. I think there's some yeah, yeah. Next monday at rbc a meeting will have eight

[1:21:59] applications to install solar panels on the front facing roof. And most of those were in mill

[1:22:05] valley. Is that correct valley chestnut crossing dana point? Okay. They're all srd districts

[1:22:13] or p u d over the last six months. Um tell me a little bit about how that's trending. Ah

[1:22:24] solar panels in general are trending. We've seen an uptick in applications. Um there have

[1:22:29] not been any requests that have been denied. By the board. With those that have not been denied

[1:22:38] , or mostly, not from roof pitch requests. A variance if it's on the rear. That's true. That's

[1:22:45] true. Thank you. We've heard from some of the professionals in the industry that thank

[1:22:50] marysville might be the only community in central ohio that requires a variance or having

[1:22:54] them on the front. It's been there's definitely there's definitely a lot more projects

[1:23:03] being done, um in town, and I think we're just going to see more and more requests. Just

[1:23:08] because the way some houses are rented. It's not feasible to put them on the back because they're

[1:23:13] not going to get exposure to the sun if it's facing north. It's not gonna be worth the

[1:23:17] investment for that homeowner. They're not going to recoup that, if it unless it's on the front just just to talk about the topic just a bit. You know, the I think about um. Van kirk

[1:23:33] drive and hickory drive. And the old. Sections of marysville, which were once the elite of the

[1:23:41] community. And those are fifties and sixties style architecture. With lower pitched roofs. And

[1:23:48] the roof. Equals. I don't know. 1 30% of the styling of the house. Mhm. And to take away

[1:24:00] from that. Historical architecture, even though it's not in the historical district,

[1:24:06] but it's in village residential. Some of it is uh um, it seems unfortunate. And, of course, uh,

[1:24:15] the owner. Once. Uh, solar. Maybe at the disadvantage right now are at the disadvantage

[1:24:27] right now. If the if the preferred side for solar is on the front of the house. And I

[1:24:34] just have a real problem. Of something so none architecturally contributing.

[1:24:42] mhm to be on those roof pitches. Particularly in the uptown historical areas. But in

[1:24:48] addition. Are those fifties and sixties styles home that truly make a statement of their

[1:24:56] period. It would be distracting. Two story homes. You know it. You don't have the same visual.

[1:25:05] as you're driving by. So it's a tough one. It's difficult from when you're talking about period

[1:25:15] homes and how distracting these could be, too. Do their curbside architecture. Just yes, ma'am.

[1:25:26] question to ask planning commission and staff. What part of our uptown are actually not

[1:25:36] flat roof is that significant? That that is a slant or I'm I'm thinking. Most of the time when

[1:25:47] I looked that way, I'm seeing flat tops is that not accurate? Are you speaking to the

[1:25:55] residential or to the commercial commercial uptown? I mean, if we're protecting historical

[1:26:02] would be focused on more of the protection of the residential. Um, so that that that pitch of

[1:26:07] the residential so you're back to alan's point. Um I'm sorry. What did you say back to allen's

[1:26:16] point, as opposed to? I'm thinking of historic uptown. Yeah and minister of the flat

[1:26:22] roofs don't really meet that definition of being a front facing route right? Right so

[1:26:27] they wouldn't apply to the correct. Okay. Thank you. Could you mr president, can you please

[1:26:35] go back to the two options slide just so I can. So let me let me back up one. So right now we do

[1:26:44] so this area that's outlined in the red here that air that is what we currently have that

[1:26:50] restricts it throughout the entire community on that front, the front pitch. We are

[1:26:55] proposing two options to modify that to either, um, only restricted within village

[1:27:01] residential uptown commercial uptown single family in uptown transitional unless you get the

[1:27:08] variants with the requirement that you know you can only obtain that very variants of

[1:27:15] your roof configuration does not permitted on the side or the rear. Or option two that it is,

[1:27:21] um, completely prohibited on the front pitch of the roof within v r. D uptown commercial in uptown

[1:27:29] single family in uptown transitional. Option one. There is basically saying we're going

[1:27:41] to allow it because they're not going to come and ask for it unless they're front pitches on

[1:27:46] the sound. They're not going to ask for it if their front pitches facing north. Yes so we

[1:27:51] would we would allow it, um, south facing front. Yeah. So I don't really like options. Oh,

[1:28:00] it would still be it. It wouldn't matter which direction you are facing. As long as the

[1:28:05] front of your roof, you still wouldn't be permitted. Whether you're facing north or south variance. Yeah. And the only reason somebody would come and ask for a variance is if they've

[1:28:16] got a south facing home and our history shows that we haven't turned away a single one of

[1:28:24] those so option one. I mean, it allows it. For everyone. Except those facing north. Yeah I see

[1:28:34] what you're saying, um, it could be, um, you know if the rear facing roof flying is

[1:28:41] constructed in a way that doesn't allow you put solar panels on it that has a lot of

[1:28:46] different um, angles or bound, you know, valleys vessel accounts there anyway, so that

[1:28:52] would be like a hardship that they physically can't put it anywhere on the house except the

[1:28:56] front because at the front of the only spot that has a flat roof or flat surface okay. Just

[1:29:03] question. How can we do this? Um we turn one option down. I mean, now we're being presented with

[1:29:11] basically. Yes and a now and up and down. Tell me, tim. What suggested amendments right with

[1:29:20] ashley planning staff. We considered what? The council's comments two options. Can

[1:29:27] consider need to take. Discussion and decide whether. So somebody recommends one

[1:29:43] option as the amendment. And we either vote that up or down. Six votes. So I think that nothing

[1:29:55] says you have to choose. One of these two options have been working. Any suggestions? These were just give me just drafted these based on the comments. Thank you. Well I'm gonna

[1:30:10] proposal an amendment and if we don't like it and maple. Try again. My suggestion is a

[1:30:16] variation of option two. To read . Roof mounted solar panels are prohibited on the front facade.

[1:30:24] period an application for a variance show must be granted. Okay? Christmas then includes

[1:30:35] like the parts of town that that alan talked about it. Talks includes everything correct. So

[1:30:42] it's clear. Discussion. Hey, any discussion on that one? We need to see a map of village

[1:30:53] residential are we clear on the areas that he's saying every every time hearing that saying

[1:31:00] every district and you know, I understand what alan was saying with the architecture of houses,

[1:31:07] etcetera. But I'm a private property person. And when I buy my house I want to be able to do

[1:31:20] to my house. What I want within reason. And this isn't a god awful, bright yellow neon sign

[1:31:28] that's blinking. And if I want to be able to put solar panels on my house, which I wouldn't do

[1:31:38] . I don't think I don't think economically. It works to spend $35,000 to do it. But mm hmm.

[1:31:44] why should I not be able to do it? To my house. Just f y. They're currently prohibited.

[1:31:53] no, no, no, they're not. Well yeah, they are on the front. They're not on the back, but

[1:31:59] yes, I know. Mr burbey. I just meant iru just voted that very thing on lock coverage. You mean

[1:32:09] do the duty amendment. And any of them, but we still are waiting for any with somebody to

[1:32:16] make in amendment at this point , or we go with the original. Didn't put that on mark. Mark

[1:32:24] did okay. He made a motion to amend it many, many prohibition on the front facility. So that's

[1:32:32] on the tape. So then I say, let's pass the amendment, then that market already already made

[1:32:36] the motion, so it's discussion right now. Discussion. Yes, thank you. Um. Mr president. My

[1:32:45] preferences option too. Because I'm partial to historical architecture. Okay and

[1:32:52] preserving. That front appearance more extinct. We we okay, so we have two of them, so

[1:33:02] we have to finish the one. Well, I would call marks question, okay? Called for the question.

[1:33:09] local place, mr seymour. No mrs growth? Yes mr berger. Mister burbey, mr roush. Mr reems? Yes

[1:33:21] mr carpenter. Three yes. Six foreign amendments, so they know okay? But now we're back to

[1:33:31] options one and two up there. Yeah is that your suggestion? Mark took a stab at it and

[1:33:37] failed. So okay, let's go with option two. That emotion. Option three didn't fly. Move option to

[1:33:47] you. Okay I think that's motion, mr president. It is a motion for that. Yep. Okay local, please,

[1:33:57] mrs groat? Yes mr berger. Mister burbey, mr roush. Where's village? Residential? Yeah.

[1:34:10] can't do that. Be like around hickory area. Thank inn and surrounding the uptown district

[1:34:23] park edition as well important, though. Yeah. I mean, I get uptown and uptown single and

[1:34:29] uptown. I just residential takes a different need to see. Yeah, I mean, where? Where exactly is

[1:34:35] village map? I believe that we could pull up here previous meetings. Is that the first

[1:34:46] council first reading the second reading? We can you want to take? We can walk up the r

[1:34:52] laptop to show you if you need for that user. Okay? While they're pulling that up, palin

[1:35:03] option two is essentially what you were saying. Your preferences is that correct? Mhm. The outline of purple is presidential. Sorry blue outline is uptown districts. Than the

[1:35:19] purple outline liner residential district that's basically hurts old marysville. Okay? Okay good.

[1:35:34] back to me, miss mackenzie got it up too late. Okay, thank you, mackenzie. Just be nice. In the

[1:35:53] butt. Okay? Honey continue to call for the question. No no. Mr reems. Mr carpenter? Yes, mr

[1:36:06] seymour. Six yes. Six about that . Yes, things if I could just make you know. One comment, um

[1:36:19] what is so unique about hickory bar haven, and especially the west side of town. There's a lot

[1:36:29] of older trees and that's what really makes those areas so unique, so it's really easy to

[1:36:36] put solar panels on your home if you live in a newer housing development where you don't have

[1:36:41] as many trees and the trees are a lot smaller you know, I understand that people want

[1:36:46] solar panels on their homes because they can you know by the power companies can buy back the

[1:36:53] energy and those kind of things. But I have seen where, um, cases where solar panels have been put

[1:37:00] on houses and they have actually removed their large trees in their yards to put solar panels

[1:37:05] on. And I just hope that you know we don't have codes currently to protect odor trees

[1:37:12] in the city of marysville, which to us that might sound outlandish, but to a lot of

[1:37:17] communities ancestral ohio atlanta, georgia, you know all these other cities they actually

[1:37:21] do protect larger trees in their cities. What I hope not to see is that if we really wanted to

[1:37:27] protect the environment or whatever the stipulations are, we would plant more trees. But that's my only you know, hope in the future is that a lot of those big oaks and stuff that we

[1:37:36] see on west aid their seventh or sex where the oyster came through and missed those?

[1:37:42] they're not or the bar haven neighborhood? I mean, there's houses would be totally different if those big white oaks were gone. So anyway, that's just my only statement.

[1:37:51] okay so at this point, the ordinance I is, um in second reading. Um any comments from

[1:38:00] citizens? Cathy young. Happy young for 25 west eighth street district. There are many two

[1:38:13] story houses in my district. There are some trees are trees are getting to the point where

[1:38:18] they are going to have to be removed. My neighbor had to remove a tree. Just a year or

[1:38:24] two ago because it was going through my sump pump. It's they're destroying foundations.

[1:38:28] mm. So if you want that neighborhood to fall down, you know, and I know this is a solar

[1:38:35] panel issue, but it's not all about trees, either. If you want the houses to fall down, let

[1:38:41] those trees stay my garage floor. Different heights about four inches. So I don't think

[1:38:45] you should narrow v r d districts. Because we were built in the fifties. There are two

[1:38:53] story homes over there that could use the solar panels and just for the record, I'm against

[1:38:57] solar panels. You know, besides the tax credit, I don't see the value and I'm just like jr. But

[1:39:03] I don't think you should. You know if somebody wants to put solar panels and let them put

[1:39:08] solar panels in okay? Ready. Any other comments? Okay mr president. At what? Make

[1:39:17] emotional wave third reading motion to waive third reading local, please, mr berger? Yes,

[1:39:24] mr burbey? Yes ouch! Yes mr reems. Mr. Carpenter mr seymour . Mrs group? Yes now we need

[1:39:33] emotion to best of legislation. Okay, mr rings. Local please, mr burbey. Mr reems. Mr carpenter?

[1:39:47] yes, mr seymour. Mrs group? Yes mr berger? Yes six. Yes motion passed. Okay that's one good

[1:39:56] evening, or ordinance j reading title only to amend section for pay policy section five benefits

[1:40:05] , policies and policy. C 6 26 credit cards of the city of marysville policy manual. Okay?

[1:40:12] already this section, you'll find it starting on peach 1 40. And finishing up on peach 1 91

[1:40:20] 51 pages. Okay yeah, there are a lot of good things centered, really a lot of good things that

[1:40:29] , um the city and especially city employees will benefit from however you allowed us to

[1:40:36] postpone it to date certain, which is 10 9 in the hopes that we would come to a agreement on

[1:40:44] two of the many items, okay? Both items you know, which is policy 400 regarding 27 pay

[1:40:55] periods as well as policy paper , 100 bits is in regards to holidays. Um personally, I spent

[1:41:05] maybe about six hours with h I directly. Since we couldn't come to a agreement. We then extended

[1:41:17] to a meeting with administration . Mr emery, mr austin ear bread was available. Um I think there

[1:41:26] was 1/4 brain was available. And then mr ames and I and we started at about 3 30 last

[1:41:34] thursday and about six o'clock we still did not have a agreement on it. Okay so both

[1:41:44] topics in my opinion are very sensitive to our employees, both the ones that are exempt and

[1:41:52] nonexempt. They are very sensitive to the image in the community. And they are also

[1:42:00] pay. Very sensitive to the people that put us here. The taxpayers. Okay, so since we

[1:42:11] have some time available on these two particular items out of all the other ones and again

[1:42:17] , all the other ones. At this point, we would like to see those being moved forward

[1:42:22] because they will benefit the city and its employees. It stays through that the first one if I

[1:42:32] take that up would be, um um, he got into holidays. Yeah that does not come into play until

[1:42:40] mid year of next year. Okay so we have time for that particular one. The audubon does not really

[1:42:50] come into play until 2027. Okay the reason that it was brought forward is so that we had moving

[1:42:59] forward to 2027 at a policy in place today. Unfortunately we don't have a policy in place.

[1:43:08] and it would not be a wise decision devoted in so at this point, um, absolutely, um,

[1:43:17] conferring with administration be appeal that we can take the two items out and then we can

[1:43:24] still pass the other ones. Then we can wait until the first of the year and then pick those two

[1:43:31] up. Let him go through the process, perhaps go to the finance committee that the

[1:43:37] finance committee pat it and then after the finance committee has had a chance to take a look

[1:43:43] at it, then bring those two mexican to counsel for the council vote. So that's where we

[1:43:50] stand with those two items on this particular legislation at this point. Did you have

[1:44:00] anything to add? Yeah do. I totally agree on policy 400 regarding the 27 pay period

[1:44:09] that's not going to incur until 2027 that that is. I totally agree with that, um amending it

[1:44:19] and revisiting that maybe closer to that point in time, the other one, the regarding the holidays.

[1:44:27] I would like to. I think it's important that we act and. And I have reasons as to why I think

[1:44:35] we should act. But already, but that's up to city council. If you choose not to. There's I

[1:44:44] mean, obviously, there's a lot of discussion on that topic. Um hey, mel. On the on the holiday

[1:44:52] , okay. Topic. And you know if we wanted to look at doing it next year, and in postpone that

[1:45:00] decision, it's going to mean that we'd have to look at the budgetary impact and, you know,

[1:45:07] readjust our budget. You know, here and a few months. It's like we're already going through the

[1:45:13] budget process. You know, I think we should just make the decision on the holiday. One

[1:45:19] policy 500. I'm in favor of adding it. You know, we've had a couple of years to playing for

[1:45:27] it. It's not like when the federal government declared the extra holiday. The state. The

[1:45:34] state made that decision that day because I got a call at 8 30 at night that I had to call on

[1:45:43] my employees to make sure they knew not to come in the next day , so at least we've had time to

[1:45:50] prepare for it. We can budget for it. Um, I think keeping. Ah . The proposed language and

[1:45:58] policy. 500 makes sense for now for, you know, I think it's the right time to do it. I think

[1:46:05] it's the right thing to do. And you know the timing is good in terms of it's in, you know, it

[1:46:11] can be in our budget, so okay, so that would be mark's comments . Okay my vision and this is a

[1:46:19] little bit different. Yeah currently have 11 holidays. Okay and I think it's kind of a

[1:46:28] ironic that we bring this up today, which is a federal law today. And here we are working

[1:46:36] in today's columbus day. Today's indigenous day. Yeah, but we're here working a technical oil. I

[1:46:45] tried to pick up my mail this morning, but they're not working . Yeah so I do go to the bank,

[1:46:52] but they're not working. But we're working. So it's a choice . Yeah it's a choice that we

[1:46:57] have. Yeah whether or not we want to have a holiday, and on what day we do have that holiday

[1:47:06] if I compare the number of the holidays that we do you know the federal holiday. The federal

[1:47:14] government doesn't do it. And oh, by the way, we have 11 holidays currently. The federal

[1:47:22] government. Has your life been holidays and the state has 11 holidays. That's what we

[1:47:28] currently have. So we're following the state on that one. We did do a paul yeah,

[1:47:36] surrounding communities and I think we came in at about 11.3 11.4 of all the communities of

[1:47:46] the number of holidays. Yeah and the has to be some stuff since to decide on a extra holidays

[1:47:56] because the holiday and it's it was explained that it would maybe be in the neighborhood of

[1:48:06] about $39,000 and I said the neighborhood, so it wasn't about that amount of money that it

[1:48:13] would cost us and over time. But that does not. That's only in state money that is not in

[1:48:22] pensions. That is not in all time. But most of all, that is in last there's not taken in

[1:48:30] consideration the last hours that people are not at the workplace. Yeah. That has a

[1:48:38] substantial amount of value to its. Yeah, that somebody will take the holiday because

[1:48:45] basically, city hall is closed, so they have to take the holiday , but it just makes it so the

[1:48:55] extra holiday would be the june teens. Yeah which is the celebration of the black

[1:49:03] community of the day of independence. Yeah. Currently we have new year's day that

[1:49:11] everybody celebrates, and then we have martin luther king, which is a black holiday. Yeah

[1:49:19] then we go on to many of the other ones, so ohio. Yeah I was a free state. When um all of

[1:49:32] this was taking place that can 1800 yeah, there was a line drawn between high your

[1:49:38] neighbor. West and north of the ohio. And we will appreciate and we didn't treat in. Um in slaves

[1:49:50] . He didn't do that out here and so substantively we're looking at what is the reason that we do

[1:49:58] it? There is a tremendous amount of pressure to continue to do it, you know, and I have no

[1:50:05] doubt that after this meeting today, there are going to be phone calls. And they're going

[1:50:10] to say why did maybe president burbey in this case because I speak against it, or depending

[1:50:19] on the way that you want to vote today? Yeah we have always taken the, um the approach. What is

[1:50:30] best for our employees? Yeah and we're doing that in several instances. Yeah but baby c b

[1:50:37] give up good friday. You know, which is religious holiday. It's not a pedal holiday, but it fits

[1:50:44] in well with our employees, you know, so we don't celebrate columbus day, but most likely

[1:50:52] that one was traded in for maybe good friday because then we have friday said today, sunday off

[1:50:59] which is a good day, maybe eventually we can do this. Yeah maybe eventually june, things

[1:51:06] will go on. Me or us. However I would want to call it and we have other days that the friday

[1:51:17] after thanksgiving. Yeah he's a they that we have asked, which is not a federal there, so we

[1:51:25] are now making a decision on a floating or sorry on the holiday that could fall on different

[1:51:30] dates, you know? Without even checking with employees. How would you want to do this

[1:51:37] holiday? So the point is that I am making here is that one b would make a decision on a

[1:51:47] holiday that we then that would be like christmas that would be like new year's eve new year's

[1:51:52] day that would fall on any day of the week without first touching base with employees. We

[1:52:01] would increase our holidays from 11 to 12, which puts us far ahead of federal and state and

[1:52:12] puts his way about everybody else. And I feel we can wait a little while. Yeah to mark's

[1:52:20] point of saying well, we would have to adjust the budget well, the 26th of september we had 5

[1:52:28] $600,000 worth of adjustment. So adjustments are easy that that to me is not an argument. If we

[1:52:36] do this the proper way. The first of the year make it available to the finance

[1:52:43] committee will most likely be coming to council with that recommendation. Whatever that

[1:52:51] recommendation is, and then by the first of april, we have this one in place. There. We have

[1:52:59] equal may to make the funds available. Put it ology. So the financial part I don't think

[1:53:07] it's important. It is and to mr remedies, um, concern that he has saying that. Well, what if I

[1:53:17] get a phone call? The phone call could be if I were to get it is that council was not ready to

[1:53:25] make a decision yet. Council months of first work with employees and if they do decide

[1:53:32] to take it to take it in place of another one, or do we want to decide to add a 12 holiday to

[1:53:39] our employees schedule? Those are all the different parts that I have a hard time. Um uh, going

[1:53:50] with the recommendation of 12 holidays. Um I was just going to agree with most of what you

[1:53:59] said. Basically. Do we have to so are you saying hank that we don't actually have to do

[1:54:06] anything tonight? With this ordinance? We can wait until next year. Is that what you're saying? That is? That is that is what I'm saying. Yes. Not with the entire ordinance. Just no,

[1:54:17] no, no, no just suggesting parts of motion to amend be made to remove one or both of these

[1:54:24] sections from the audit before council. I think we should do that. You know, I guess you

[1:54:32] talked about the finance committee looking at this beginning of the year. But we

[1:54:37] all know that the beginning of the year is the time when we know the least amount our

[1:54:45] finances. Correct we haven't even gotten april returns yet. You know, we don't really know.

[1:54:54] have a great idea how we're doing until june, you know, feel comfortable. Yep so I know

[1:55:03] you're saying it's easy to adjust, but the first half of years not so easy to adjust. But

[1:55:12] but they at the end of the day, he even with the immediate expense that we have for all the

[1:55:20] time for a large number of people that have to work on that particular day, it's still going

[1:55:26] to cost the taxpayers the considerable amount. Yeah, I have several things to give me

[1:55:35] the amount and unfortunately, it was not available to me or not. It was not made available to me

[1:55:42] , but we do know that the people that are not working at that particular day, they still get

[1:55:48] paid. So it's still an expense to the taxpayers. It's easy enough to say yeah, but they

[1:55:55] still get paid. But then what did they do with the other days ? You know to me? That's not an

[1:55:59] argument. Just say you can easily do that because we already paid the employees then.

[1:56:06] well if it's that that you can give me 100 day every day because they're here anyway, so

[1:56:11] then it doesn't mean anything. So um, no. A unfortunately, don't see that as a as a as a

[1:56:20] point. And I'll chime in here too. You know the days you mentioned and I know that I'm

[1:56:28] sure the employees love the friday after thanksgiving. But of all, it's not a federal

[1:56:32] holiday. It has no significance where juneteenth does have a significance. In this country.

[1:56:40] mhm and I would be much more in line with giving them juneteenth off. And we fought a war over

[1:56:47] that. Hmm hmm. We didn't fight a war over the third the friday after thanksgiving. No just

[1:56:55] became that became an extra day . Um you know, and the federal government has made juneteenth,

[1:57:03] a federal holiday state has made it a holiday. Um so I would be more in line with just amending

[1:57:14] policy. 400 leaving policy 500 in. Okay just make three comments. First comment. The

[1:57:24] union block at the square town was built in 18 63 when completed at $15,000. Now you

[1:57:30] think about that $15,000 in 18 63 and merit? Well 18 65 around that time when that voting was

[1:57:38] completed at that time you got to think about marysville. At that time there was nothing

[1:57:43] really here at all. They were so happy that the union won the war. The union bloc was named

[1:57:48] after the north. So you know, I have. So that's you know, that's my first statement. The second

[1:57:58] statement is as the four years that I've been on this council. I have heard all the time that

[1:58:04] we need to run this like a business. If we're going to add a holiday, then we need to

[1:58:09] remove a holiday. Just like every corporate honda has done it. You know, we a lot of people

[1:58:14] have done it. My um my third statement is. And I mean this with respect. We are typical

[1:58:24] politicians. Where we as a city do not ever showcased social social awareness to anything no

[1:58:34] department. Not the city, no social events and this community or ever used as a platform for

[1:58:44] us to celebrate. We stay neutral. And we have made that very clear. But. We claim that

[1:58:52] we're going to give a holiday. But I bet you 95% of this community doesn't even realize

[1:59:00] that the union bloc was named after winning the war. From in the north and the south. So I

[1:59:07] have a hard time trying to give out a holiday for june 19th when I bet you not one post. Nothing

[1:59:16] will be said on june 19th as a city. That's my heartburn. With all of these holidays. Thank

[1:59:27] you, mrs colored. Holidays are very personal november 1st personal to me for a variety of

[1:59:38] reasons. Um those of you who may be irish. You may wish the city would give you what did marches

[1:59:48] at the 16th 17th 17. I would prefer that we all end up with groundhogs day because I think

[1:59:59] that's one of the most significant days of the year. And then there's december 21st,

[2:00:03] and that's when I was born. And then there is december 21st, which is if you're a druid, um,

[2:00:09] the return of the sun. So you can get into some very personal comments. Um I would then ask mr

[2:00:19] de stank. Oh if I worked full time for the city and if I felt passionately about a holiday are

[2:00:30] there any exceptions to my being allowed to use my compensatory time or, however, you phrase

[2:00:37] paid time off to celebrate my birthday or groundhogs day or november? 1st all saints day

[2:00:47] even though it's a very religious holiday, which we don't recognize as the city. So

[2:00:52] my question is, if we turn this down. Then does that truly block a sincere employee from

[2:01:05] celebrating in the way he wants to celebrate? Any anyone wanting to take any day off using any

[2:01:19] form of paid time off, such as compensatory personal vacation. Uh first has to go through the

[2:01:26] supervisor approval. So the only way to that most most folks would get at the night is if it

[2:01:32] was a workload issue. Otherwise no, there's nothing borrowing anybody from doing it. Thank

[2:01:37] you. I want groundhogs day. Any other custom questions? Yes, mr um. State and federal has

[2:01:52] already signed up for this initiated it and followed through with it. What is our

[2:01:58] trend? Brian over. Over all the years that as far as you can go back that that this city

[2:02:08] government has followed the trends of state and federal. What was the last time he added

[2:02:15] a federal holiday. Okay okay, um what? There's a lot of them. There's a misnomer here that the

[2:02:22] states recognized this holiday. The ohio code is one of seven states similar in the country

[2:02:30] that in the ohio code 1 24.19. It's simply states of the federal government designates a

[2:02:35] holiday that it will be a holiday here, so the wine didn't have to make a decision. You

[2:02:41] just had a notified people of the ohio code. There were 22 other states that passed

[2:02:47] legislation to accept this as a paint the june 19th is a paid holiday. There's 50 18. It did

[2:02:52] not. There's three. Code which would be county as well had no say in the matter,

[2:03:14] and they took it. County and all those cities that hank mentions are guided by the ohio code that

[2:03:20] just take the federal holidays. So there's no negotiation and at all. A lot of other cities

[2:03:27] waited for a portion of time when they have a charter and they have the wherewithal to

[2:03:32] establish locally a lot of pay and benefits, such as the holidays they recognize and also

[2:03:38] where they had collective bargaining agreements to go through that process, and that's

[2:03:42] exactly what we did here. But we I don't agree with several things that mr burbey said,

[2:03:49] including not checking with our employees. We well vetted this choice through our employees,

[2:03:55] but we gave our union a false choice on on a question. At the time. We were trying to be as

[2:04:02] prudent as possible, but also to find out how they truly felt so the first collective bargaining

[2:04:08] process was fired, he said. Which holiday would you trade in for juneteenth, which I think is

[2:04:13] some some councils thinking about doing that now. Um, the answer came back. None. Well if

[2:04:20] you would have given the third choice of just adding juneteenth all of them would have said

[2:04:25] heck, yeah, the choice three. But we didn't give him that. And then we went through police to

[2:04:29] say the same thing. And what we learned from that is our employees greatly rely on and

[2:04:34] have for at least 22 years. I've been here and I've gone back and collective bargaining before

[2:04:39] that. These holidays that we've had, including good friday and day after thanksgiving have been

[2:04:44] in place. Since the beginning of my time. So nothing's changed, so they're not willing to give

[2:04:48] them up. Okay? And again. I promised that I wouldn't but since you open up the plot

[2:05:01] guides in regards to the employees that the june juneteenth was offered to

[2:05:06] employees. Correct 19 june, 19th was offered first to the fire union and then the police union

[2:05:15] not to the rest of the employees , which two units constitute about 36% of the city. Okay so

[2:05:21] about 36. Yeah they were given the opportunities to exchange it for another holiday, and they

[2:05:29] decided not to. So with that in mind. Yeah wounded be more prudent to wait until the next

[2:05:38] round of negotiations. And then she how the employees feel about it, and however they feel about

[2:05:44] it at that time. You do that for all the other employees. Well, that's one way to go. I

[2:05:50] certainly don't think meeting with the finance committee is the way to go because it's three

[2:05:54] of you. So why the three of you without the other four would sit and talk about this again is

[2:06:00] beyond me. We've already well vetted. The administration's made its call. We believe it's

[2:06:04] the right thing to do for recruitment and retention. Also given any of the social

[2:06:10] ramifications, the optics of it , terry emery's already told this body we all think this is

[2:06:15] the way to go. If you don't want if you want to vote to amend and pull out that section 500,

[2:06:21] that's fine, but I don't see any reason for the finance committee to then review it later because

[2:06:26] we already have the facts. Okay so let's let's piggyback on what you were saying for, um,

[2:06:34] attention and for attracting new employees. Yeah on average when we are trying to under our

[2:06:42] current and we are one of what we are, but I was told we are in the minority that do it does not

[2:06:49] honor juneteenth. There's a holiday. Yeah on average, if there is a position available

[2:06:57] currently there are only four positioned somewhat vacant be working on filling at least one

[2:07:04] or two of them at the moment, but on average when we do ask for people to put in a resume

[2:07:12] for a job, many applicants do you normally get it's diverse and it's changed through the

[2:07:19] years as I have told you when we discussed the same topic in private, we're finding we're

[2:07:24] getting far fewer applicants. Luckily we're still getting quality as opposed to quantity

[2:07:31] is becoming a problem for everybody, including us if we're talking about a direct

[2:07:36] correlation between adding a 12 holiday and whether it would improve recruitment retention,

[2:07:41] we don't have any hard data on that. No I can't tell you with regard to comparables is before

[2:07:47] juneteenth happened are comparables and we used to pockets. One is by our own our

[2:07:55] own use of analytical data. We go by same cities of same population. Median family income

[2:08:03] income tax number of households in order to establish ballpark what would be available in

[2:08:08] general fund? And we use those comparables for wage and benefits. In addition, we

[2:08:13] remember of more busy a member of the hr central ohio hr network, which is about 150,

[2:08:19] plus 2 70 extended beltway and what we found is previous to june 10th. The average number of

[2:08:27] holidays was about 10.7 ish, and we were above it. And then juneteenth happened, and

[2:08:32] immediately the average went up because a lot of entities didn't have a choice. But to just

[2:08:37] added, so, your averages go up. What we're seeing through collective bargaining is cities

[2:08:43] are in charter or charter cities are starting to add juneteenth. In addition, so now we're up to

[2:08:49] the number you pointed out earlier, hank 11.3 11.4 so the needle is moving in that

[2:08:55] direction. Yeah. Okay but at this point, I think that we are in line with other ones. Yeah

[2:09:05] and again, we can, um make all sorts of statements about the reason for the holiday and

[2:09:12] fortunately the other day has not yet gone on me individually . So um and. It it continues to

[2:09:22] be, um, won that I personally feel that I was city should not move into that direction. As of

[2:09:30] yet. Okay so that's that's my personal views. Mr president. Yes, sir. Um I would like for

[2:09:40] this body. To give consideration to policy 400. Whether we should proceed or delay as one topic

[2:09:52] too. A draw conclusion on them, and then I would like for us to address policy 500. And asked if

[2:10:03] we would we want to act on it today or postpone it also I'd like for us to address each one

[2:10:09] of those individually. I agree with you fully. No no, we should should. That's why we pull them

[2:10:14] out because we don't want to jeopardize the whole ordinance. So there's a lot of good in the

[2:10:23] ordinance. It's just those two that I think they should have a public discussion, which is what

[2:10:29] we're doing at the moment, and that's why I asked for those those two to be listed

[2:10:34] separately. Okay. I understand next steps. No, no, no, that's yeah. So any further discussions

[2:10:41] on policy paper hundreds okay? Okay hearing none. I will read. I will raise. Let's see. I will

[2:10:54] make a motion. To postpone to date uncertain. Policy for with regard to policy 400, okay? Okay

[2:11:10] so we are postponing policy 400 , which is the 27 pay periods. Yes okay. That's the one that

[2:11:20] yes, sir. 405 100 will be be. We want to take one at a time we working on 400 were working on

[2:11:30] four and be part of the thing we need to do is a motion to a man. The legislation to remove. Um

[2:11:40] the amended language and policy 403 passes. Then you can. Then the president council can just,

[2:11:49] uh, senator committee or or. Put it into a working group again or whatever, whatever. Whatever you

[2:11:57] want to do this yeah. Business here is to amend legislation that's on the table, removing

[2:12:03] that particular policy. Okay piecemeal. Do it again. Five. Potentially that's what

[2:12:10] counselors can. I can I add a thought? Yes, sir. I would not recommend removing the entire

[2:12:15] policy. Just removing the section or paragraph six, which covers 27 pay periods, not the

[2:12:20] entire amend it by removing only paragraphs six and then we'll be back to the policy. Being silent

[2:12:27] on 27 papers as it was previous . Okay so that's consistent with policy 400. Yes so we would just

[2:12:40] say we would recommend to remove policy 400 regarding pay periods . Then we would vote on you

[2:12:46] wouldn't man paragraph six because section 400 has about seven or eight items, so I agree

[2:12:57] with dying. Take out paragraph six. So you would need to either amend your would like to amend

[2:13:05] my motion to amend what tim said. Yeah I know they do to remove paragraph six from polls

[2:13:14] from policy 400. Yes addresses the number clear that specifically addresses the

[2:13:21] number of cape periods right in that when or I'm sorry the number of periods that employees

[2:13:28] would get paid in a year where there are 27 pays. Um, I think mark made the motion. Then I

[2:13:35] withdraw mine. Okay the motion is to remove paragraph six from policy 400. Okay, guards, two

[2:13:43] pay periods. If you don't mind. Um almost there. H 1 39. Okay so the section reads there so that

[2:14:02] we are all clear on this one. Um this one is, um, section pay. Yeah the policy title is general

[2:14:12] pay and work hours, and it's covered on the policy 400. So it reads. Section number 6 27 pay

[2:14:20] periods. There are normally 26 pay periods in the year in some years, however, there are 27 bi

[2:14:26] weekly pay periods. The employees are compensated for hours worked the annual take

[2:14:32] home pay could be greater than in this 2017 a period here. Salaries exempt employees are

[2:14:41] compensated every two weeks. As such there any will salary would be one paycheck more than the

[2:14:48] annual salary put a 27 year pay period. It's I will ensure this anomaly is popularly noted in

[2:14:55] the annual pay ordinance, and the anomaly increases is not affected forwards. So that is

[2:15:01] the portion that we are voting on. Yeah, so if you say yes, it will be removed. If you say no,

[2:15:09] it will stay in here. Am I correct them. Okay, so and you made that motion for this. I'm

[2:15:18] sorry. Did so we needed all golfer that mr roush? Yes mr reems? Yes mr carpenter? Yes mr

[2:15:26] seymour? Yes mrs groat? Yes, mr berger. Mister burbey? Yes yes. Okay so that section will be

[2:15:34] removed and then again become to the other section, which is, um mhm, the to amend policy paper

[2:15:42] 100 regarding holidays, so we been beating this horse for a while. Now if you want to keep

[2:15:52] going, or do we want to make a motion on this can I help first two, although I don't agree with

[2:15:57] what you're doing, I should like to help you do it. Of course. What I would recommend is that

[2:16:02] you amend table 501 to remove reference to juneteenth. And then in the entire policy where

[2:16:09] the reference is made of 12 holidays, return it to 11. So basically, we would remove.

[2:16:16] table 500-1. And in this policy , where it lists well holidays as an amendment. Or a change to

[2:16:25] the old is returning to 11. And we'll be good to go. Okay so let me get that one. If I could ask

[2:16:40] the question really quickly, go ahead. If you the two I'm going to ask if you don't feel

[2:16:47] comfortable with asking if you don't feel comfortable quite steady in the statement, you can just tell me so, miss alexandra , you work for the county. Do you guys have a diversity

[2:16:55] inclusion group in your county or do you guys do anything to support members who are maybe

[2:17:03] feel marginalized within the county? Employment. Because brian is taken, saying he

[2:17:10] doesn't agree that we should be removing june 19th from a holiday. But in our organization

[2:17:15] we don't actually promote. Any type of diversity within the workplace with social media or

[2:17:23] anything like that, and I just want to know from a county employees. Not true. That's not true at all. Are you saying our organization is the city of marysville and that we don't

[2:17:31] promote diversity? I would take exception to that existed, saying is when it comes to

[2:17:38] social events. We say neutral? And I'm saying is on if on social media or is there any

[2:17:49] type of oregon is their types of organizations within within the county department who is using

[2:17:59] social media platform to educate residents on social events. That happens throughout the

[2:18:03] community. That's that's that's that's really all all I'm trying to say so sorry if I offended

[2:18:11] you. I'm not trying to know you didn't offend me. I just disagree with you, 100% so if

[2:18:15] you don't feel comfortable, you don't have to say anything, but it's okay. Revised code. That

[2:18:23] the appointment authorities can also give additional days, okay? So that's what that's ok. Okay.

[2:18:31] in the county of additional yes. Sure. Before the ohio revised okay? But it's up to every

[2:18:44] department to what you're saying so okay. Thank you very much. Yes, ma'am. I was just wondering

[2:18:53] if we talked about this for eight more years. Would there be a consensus among the seven of

[2:19:00] us or does it behoove us? To make a decision and make a motion now what would be your

[2:19:08] concern, mr president. Well, he's asked for somebody to make a motion to amend, so he's

[2:19:15] waiting for somebody to make a motion to amend. Right now the amendment would be to remove

[2:19:21] juneteenth and go back to 11 holidays. That's emotion, emotion. He's looking testing.

[2:19:26] thank you just made it. No I did not. Alright well, I'll try. So mr president, I would like to

[2:19:35] make the motion to amend the legislation to remove juneteenth from policy 500 in addition to

[2:19:42] that same motion where it describes the number of holidays as being 12 revert that back to

[2:19:49] 11. That's the motion motion policy 500. See I think that's a good motion. I think it's clear

[2:19:56] as everybody cleared what it means. Alright okay and surprising. So, yes, boat vote

[2:20:04] means. Means juneteenth is removed and the holidays get reverted to 11 means keeping

[2:20:11] okay particular table 5, 500-1 and piece of legislation. Okay and then I still owe you an

[2:20:23] answer to your question, okay? I still owe you an answer to that question. The question was, how

[2:20:32] do we feel about this people? 5678 years from now. Okay that's sort of a misinterpretation.

[2:20:39] what I intended was could we argue this for the next 678 years and come up with a

[2:20:45] different answer from what each of us believes this minute? Mhm that's okay. Is it going to

[2:20:53] benefit us? Or does the motion on the table do we're just moving it forward more

[2:20:59] expeditiously for me personally. June 19. Isn't. For me. It's not whether or not june 19th should

[2:21:09] be a holiday or not a holiday. It's we claim that we are a business and we run the screen

[2:21:15] as a business, so we should then run it like a business and remove a holiday. And also if

[2:21:20] there are like the there's the a m e church on e. Sports street. There are a number of buildings

[2:21:27] in this community that celebrates african american history that as a community as a city we do not ever. Educate anybody on I call the question. That's my that's called the

[2:21:42] question issue. I don't think there's a motion yet there was made it. Yeah that's right.

[2:21:50] already local, please, mr reems. Uh, no. Mr carpenter? Yes, mr seymour. I want to clarify my

[2:22:00] vote that my vote is yes. Um. With the anticipation of bringing it back next year. Hmm.

[2:22:13] but it's yes it is. Yes, okay. This is code, mr berger? Yes. Mr burbey? Yes. Mr roush. Four.

[2:22:27] yes. Oh yes. So basically motion appeals. Yeah so no majority just passes mhm removed. It is

[2:22:42] removed at something. It's only zoning, but yet, take six. It's only and tony. Okay already, so

[2:22:51] it's only it's only that we need to take sex. Okay would you repeat the conclusion, please?

[2:22:57] yes we have taken action on both the potential amendments. Now we need a motion to pest

[2:23:05] legislation. Mr president. Maybe our second reading. I apologize . So secondary leading citizens

[2:23:14] want to change in to this riley 14 79 downey drive. I feel that council is missing an

[2:23:21] opportunity and embrace diversity of marysville. And just because people don't look

[2:23:27] like you look like me doesn't mean that I can't appreciate what's important to them. And I

[2:23:34] really feel that, um we're missing that chance to embrace our community. The diversity um

[2:23:43] we are, as mrs group said. The employees would like to have another holiday. Um it's easy to

[2:23:50] just understand. Um contractually, I happen to know if you were to do with mr ross

[2:23:58] was suggesting which is and mr berger as far as giving up another holiday and moving

[2:24:03] around, contractually, you would still have to give mr kostenko can clarify. You still have to

[2:24:08] give those holidays to the firefighters and police officers that negotiate their contract. So it isn't gonna it's gonna cost that 36% for those, so I understand where coming from? I

[2:24:18] just feel like we look at, um other communities in central highland. We're missing the

[2:24:24] boat. If we don't accept this, 19th june 19th thank you. Okay thank you. Anybody else has any

[2:24:30] comments? Mr president. Mhm. I do want assurance that just come back to us. Equals next.

[2:24:42] government issue. I you can. I guess you can make a motion to place it in front of a committee

[2:24:54] . Maybe um, I guess they're they're different ways. Um you can make a motion to place it on

[2:25:01] the calendar on a particular council calendar and march for discussion. And council can vote

[2:25:08] on it. And that would give assurance. However however, whatever happens, you want to

[2:25:12] take there's different ways to do it whether you wanted to go to committee whether you want to

[2:25:17] come back to council. They want to go to work session. But if you want to share right now that

[2:25:21] I would make a motion look at your account and make a motion to put it on the agenda for

[2:25:27] specific meeting okay? I think just motion added to the agenda of february session about that

[2:25:37] february work session. Yeah. Mhm. Yep. Okay um, but you have to okay? Including that the

[2:25:53] policy. 500 consideration placed on council agenda. First council meeting. Work session on

[2:26:06] february 5th the same very 5th 2024. This is not february. 2nd yeah, already, um any okay? Any

[2:26:15] discussion? Already local police , mr carpenter? Yes mr seymour. Mrs groat? Yes mr berger. Mister

[2:26:27] burbey. Mr roush. Mr. Reems? Yes. Six. Yes. Okay? Ready. Have you back again? This second

[2:26:38] quebec again? The second? No, that's not an amendment. Okay already, so never need emotion

[2:26:43] to pester legislation. President wait. I'm sorry. Second reading , right? That was just a

[2:26:50] emotion. For a second reading. We haven't waved third. Yeah passing second meeting right

[2:26:56] now. We have to ask. You don't know if you already did it yet to ask for citizens coming, so

[2:27:03] we need to do we need to wave third reading. Yeah because it's amended. Do we need a wave or do

[2:27:08] we let it come back in two weeks. Is there anything in here this time critical that we have

[2:27:19] to address tonight. Yeah. Are you talking about all of four and 500 you? Yes okay. Yeah. So

[2:27:34] you need a motion to waive third. Would make a motion to waive the third reading on what

[2:27:42] item the amendment or the whole no, it's not. It's on the amended. Okay it's only managed

[2:27:47] amended legislation, so we have a motion that the wave the third reading on the amended

[2:27:53] legislation, ordinance tag. Mr seymour? Yes mrs grope mr berger ? Yes mr burbey? Yes mr roush?

[2:28:05] yes mr reems. Mr carpenter? Yes. Seven. Yes already. So now we need to move forward and to, um

[2:28:17] . I would say there's still legislation correct, mr president like to make the

[2:28:23] motion to pass make. I'm so sorry to interrupt you. Can I make a we've discussed this two

[2:28:29] or three times before the timing of this it needs to be in place before 1 november. So what I've

[2:28:33] said when we've delayed this two or three times already that if we're going to get 1 november,

[2:28:38] you're gonna have to declare an emergency. I was clear at the work session about that. I think

[2:28:43] the second read. Rather than declared emergency. I would suggest that we, um maybe

[2:28:49] consider another amendment to make the effective date november 1st. I think that would be

[2:28:55] better rather than past. This is an emergency. Okay? Really and that would be for the whole that

[2:29:04] would become effective. I'm sorry that the council legislation would become

[2:29:09] effective. A little bit subsequent to when the legislation says that the policy

[2:29:16] changes become effective. Which I don't think it's a problem, right? That's not a problem is

[2:29:21] it? Brian? It's not a problem. Just so you're aware of four and 500 or sections that came before

[2:29:27] you. There are other sections to this policy, meaning that are waiting on this. And if we could

[2:29:32] get this done and effective, I like what counselors saying here so long as it's effective 1

[2:29:37] november. It fits that need. Already. If that's my position is this is obviously a very

[2:29:47] sensitive topic. I've given administration and counsel my view that we the city should be

[2:29:54] recognizing june teeth. And I think that it would even be more probably more egregious to look

[2:30:03] at it as an emergency. So I mean , at this point, I think that a referendum need to be put in

[2:30:08] place. A reference period needs to be intact. Okay? So your your accommodation to counselors to

[2:30:17] make this data and effective the post provisions to the ordinance that says that all of

[2:30:26] these policy changes will be effective on november 1st 2023. Um and that way, would it would

[2:30:37] it be when the legislation actually becomes effective on october whatever eighth. I'm

[2:30:44] sorry. On november 8th, it'll revert back to the effective date of the policy changes.

[2:30:51] okay? Anybody that wants to make that motion. Mr president. I move. We had a section. At the

[2:30:58] end, these policies shall become effective november 1 2023. Okay? Already local, please. Mrs group

[2:31:07] yes, mr berger? Yes mr burbey yes, yes. Yes mr carpenter. Yes mr seymour? Seven? Yes okay, now

[2:31:19] you need a motion to pass a motion to pass, okay? We need a motion to pass the second. Okay

[2:31:29] go ahead. We need to go back to second reading now with that event with this additional

[2:31:34] amendment okay at third, and we added another amendments. We could go back to the second

[2:31:39] amendment to discuss the legislation as amended, so it's the legislation with the november 1st affected day. Okay, already, so any comments from citizens on the amended

[2:31:49] legislation. Would make a motion to waive the third reading on the amended amended legislation.

[2:31:59] okay we have emotion. Local, please, mr berger. Yes mr burbey . Yes yes. Yes mr carpenter. Mr

[2:32:09] seymour. Mrs groat? Yes seven. Yes mr president like to make the motion to pass ordinance j.

[2:32:16] okay we have a motion of the best ordinance day. Local police. Mr burbey? Yes sh yes,

[2:32:24] mr reems. Mr carpenter. Mr seymour. Mrs group? Yes mr berger? Yes. Seven. Yes. Okay?

[2:32:33] mm. That concludes the resolutions and ordinances. Comments of the city of mineral

[2:32:44] city manager I'll pass, but thank you for your consideration . Already, council we'll start

[2:32:50] with mr seymour tonight. After that last complicated ordinance, I'll pass, okay? Okay mrs god,

[2:33:01] very simple. Early voting starts wednesday morning. Eight o'clock at the board of elections. Um

[2:33:09] the other piece is as important as it is for your award representatives, it is much more

[2:33:16] important for two other issues on the ballot. So please do your own research. Please look into

[2:33:24] what these issues are. And please vote. Thank you. Hey mr berger and enlightenment, I

[2:33:31] guess of june 19th. If my memory serves me correct. There was a gentleman named mr brown. Mr

[2:33:38] brown was a city council represent representative in the city of arizona. I think in the

[2:33:43] sixties, I could be wrong, though. Um he was mr brown. His wife was mrs brown. They were

[2:33:49] african americans. He became mayor of marysville. At that time, he was quoted that in the

[2:33:56] papers that he did business and marian he's cutting his hair grocery shopping because he felt

[2:34:03] more comfortable in respected the residents of the city, marysville. His wife. Went

[2:34:09] around to all the all the homes in this community and numbered all the children who could not

[2:34:16] go to public schools in this community due to their um, mental status, handicap

[2:34:21] abilities or other issues. She then created. Well back up a little bit at that time african

[2:34:29] americans, especially women, not just women, african american women, but also, um white women

[2:34:35] were not allowed to buy a home or have a credit card or anything in their name in the 19

[2:34:42] seventies, so especially being african american, you could not have, um, a credit card or

[2:34:48] there's cabs certain types of wealth. Different banks wouldn't allow you to be able to use

[2:34:55] because of your, um status. So she started a one room schoolhouse in the old east

[2:35:04] school elementary school building that no longer stands. She then partnered with the

[2:35:08] heroic with the lewis family. The lewis family had the means in the finances to then create

[2:35:14] the heroin. Lewis score. Most people know and respect the harewood louis family and what

[2:35:21] they did for this community. My question is as we debate june 19th. How many of us really know

[2:35:29] mrs brown in the work that she did for this community on the behalf of all children in the

[2:35:34] city of marysville. Thank you. Okay? Hmm mr rush and piggy back a little further. His name was

[2:35:42] clarence brown, and he was known as the galloping ghost when he was in high school, clifton's

[2:35:48] brown betty. Yeah yeah. Clarence was my dad. My grandpa's name? Yeah. Clifton's so he actually

[2:35:57] coached my dad when he was a little kid, so, um and think about it at that time, I believe

[2:36:03] there was either three or five black families in marysville and he was still elected mayor. So

[2:36:09] um, we live in a farm community . It's harvest season. Have some patients, please. The farmers

[2:36:18] don't want to be on the road. They are not making money when they're not in the field. So

[2:36:23] please give him a little space and let them get to their next field so that they can do their

[2:36:29] work. Thank you. Hmm mr lives don't have anything add. Okay. Thank you so much. Yes mr. Thank

[2:36:39] you. Mr president. You looked at me. I'll keep it short, really, just really enjoyed the

[2:36:45] presentation that we got about the maury. Your visit. Thank you for everyone who was involved

[2:36:52] with that for representing marysville. You know, across the pond. I mean, it's amazing. I

[2:36:57] enjoyed looking at it. The updates online. And the presentation was given the

[2:37:02] night. I mean, it's just incredible, and I look forward to seeing what next year's event

[2:37:06] looks like here in ohio, so very exciting stuff. I'll keep it short. Have a good night. Thank

[2:37:12] you. Okay, thank you very much. Uh um, I do want to comment about the legislation that we

[2:37:18] had tonight. We've talked a lot about it. You know, I thought a lot about it, and on.

[2:37:23] fortunately it came to a point. Where um, um a decision needed to be made for the time being

[2:37:31] and be vetted and we discussed it as best we could, and a final decision was made that I think

[2:37:39] is maybe stand with this one at this point, and it is due to be back again in february, so we'll

[2:37:47] see in february. What the and this this this is maybe a good exercise to wrap our heads

[2:37:56] around the holiday. Yeah, because even today I would they could guess that if we would go

[2:38:03] out and ask 100 people, whether it's june team means that probably less than 50% knows

[2:38:10] what juneteenth spain's caught a lot of people by surprise, and now it's here and now eventually

[2:38:18] we will deal with it in the proper way, so with that in mind, um I don't think I have

[2:38:27] anything else, but tonight, so I built a commotion to adjoin moved

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