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Someone here, right?

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Distracted.

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Okay.

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Being 6:35, welcome to the Mattapoisett Select Board, September 22nd,

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2026

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meeting.

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Please rise for our Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence for those who are

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serving and who have served our country.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic

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for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Thank you. Please be seated.

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I now read the open meeting law statement.

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This meeting is a virtual meeting held under the open meeting law as modified under

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current law to permit online meetings.

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This meeting is being broadcast to the public through Zoom as described in the

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posted meeting notice. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an

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audio or video recording of this public meeting and may transmit the meeting

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through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such

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recordings and or transmissions are being made, whether perceived or unperceived

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by those present and deemed acknowledged and consented.

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Madam

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Clerk.

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Okay, I make a motion to open the meeting warrant for the special town meeting

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being held on November 9th, 2026. Second.

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It's been a motion. It's been seconded.

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Hold on. Oh, yeah, sorry. Take that, sorry. I just wrote it wrong.

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All in favor?

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Aye. Aye.

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Aye. Passes unanimously. I'm sorry, my voice is pretty lousy tonight.

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Sorry about that, folks. But I want to just bring to everybody's attention, if you

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didn't get this in the mail, you should be looking for it.

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It's got the nine questions in it, and it's very informational.

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The article's in there.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it's good to have before you get to the polls.

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Just want to just give you a heads-up.

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It's nice to know what you're looking at before you go into the ballot and you get

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confused. That's all.

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And that motion for that red booklet that she's talking about, there's a motion to

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approve the election warrant for the Massachusetts state election being held on

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November 3rd, 2026.

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It's been a motion.

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Second.

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It's been seconded.

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All in favor?

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Aye. Passes unanimously.

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Motion to approve invoice number three for the Gateway Health Group payments for

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unpaid claims in the amount of $102,946.07.

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Second.

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Motion's been seconded. In favor?

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Any discussion? Everybody's good.

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Is this the signature page for the election board?

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Yeah. Public hearing. Oh.

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What?

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Yeah, we sign that one. Yeah.

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The election.

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We were sending it? Sorry, how about if we get-

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Yeah, we'll get it. Yep. We sign that one.

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Okay, public hearing.

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We have five minutes.

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Oh, we have five minutes.

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You want to skip-

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Yeah, we're going to jump around a little bit

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... the public discussion maybe a little bit?

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Mr. Severa, discuss request for a monument.

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Is Mr. Severa here or on Zoom?

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Mr. Severa? Two minutes. Okay.

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Thank you ahead of time. We got five minutes.

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Come forward. We have five minutes, so come forward and let us know what you're

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asking us about.

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I thank the board for seeing us and spending

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some time with us today.

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Oh, join him. He's in there. Oh, sorry.

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This is my wonderful wife,

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56 years, Beverly.

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Wonderful. Nice to see you, Beverly.

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And of all the awards that I have,

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none of them would I have gotten without her same support.

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This has been the most difficult summer that I've ever had, my wife and I have ever

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had. We lost our young daughter today,

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last week. Her name is

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Karen.

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Karen Severa. She was senior vice president of Tiffany's for 16 years, and

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did everything for everybody.

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Every day, she would go to the, uh-

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Our sympathies to you

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... bowels- Yeah, so sorry for your loss.

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She would go to the bowels of, uh,

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Beverly?

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Grand Central Station.

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Grand Central Station to feed-

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... the homeless. And she did that there and so many other problems.

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If you look her up, she's an incredible daughter. We lost her.

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a few weeks ago, and, uh, Bev and I, uh, contributed $100,000

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in her name to the alumni pool at Pratt, where she got her degree.

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And, uh, the outstanding students in graphic design will

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be getting an award every year in her name.

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That's wonderful.

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Very nice.

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Very nice of you. But you're here tonight for what?

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With respect to Mattapoisett,

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I've tried all my life,

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from beginning

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when I was in grammar school

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to now,

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to do everything I possibly could do for Mattapoisett,

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and it's the greatest place to grow up.

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Every single thing I did for Mattapoisett, Mattapoisett repaid me

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more than I gave it. And I'm not saying that to make it look good, I'm saying that

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because that's the truth.

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Everything. Uh, I, uh... I can go on and on on what I tried-

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And we don't have all night tonight to go on and on.

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But you're here to request something

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... all these people were good to me, so good to me-

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uh, you know, from out of poison. I don't know this, uh, who is Jody Bower?

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Do you know?

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I see.

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Are you related to, uh,

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uh, uh, my, my friend Mickey Bower?

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Adam and Walt, yes.

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He, he was one of my best friends.

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He lived with his significant other, a washer, and that's Beverly.

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Right near there. So you are related to him.

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I just met George. I just met, uh, Mr.

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White and, uh, like a father-

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You remember George, yeah?

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who recommended me to vote for the, uh,

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they had a program in Massachusetts for college students-

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... that, uh, you could go to, and Mattapoisett only got one.

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Worcester.

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New Bedford got quite a few of them. I met Beverly's friends there.

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She's a New Bedford... That's the only thing she did wrong, she graduated from New

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Bedford High, but we'll forget that.

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Okay, Mr. Severa, you're here for what?

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And he was, he was the one that recommended me.

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anything I did for Mattapoisett, I can go to Manny Nunes-

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... what he did for me. You know, when going to the, uh, um,

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when I went to that program in Wayham, Manny Nunes hired me and I

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made, uh, broke up sidewalks and sidewalks.

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I knew when I went there, I was well-tuned in terms of how to do roads and how to

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do sidewalks, and, and I told that to the people there and I said, "Could I work

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with the regulars? I just don't want to s- Picking up paper and raking things.

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They let me go to the regulars. I worked with the regulars, and we built roads.

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We built, cut down trees. So anything I did for Mattapoisett, you one-upped it,

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Tommy.

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It's an incredible place to be. I can tell you some of the nicest people you'll

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ever meet. Mrs. LeBaron, she was my mother.

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Yeah, but we really have a meeting we have to conduct.

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So we have extremely-

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Mrs. LeBaron, Manny Nunes

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... we have to move on with your request.

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You know, the police department.

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The best

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and smartest man I've ever met, and I'm talking about

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getting Nobel prizes, 50 awards all over the world, but my father was smarter

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than all of them in terms of helping people.

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I might've been good in terms of my science work, so that's why I'm here.

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And the council, I've got an incredible

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council.

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The Council on Aging?

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On Aging.

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It was-

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So you're looking to do like a bench. Is that what I'm hearing?

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Is your-

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It was Jackie and-

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Jackie Davis. Yeah

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... Jackie and Sarah.

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Yep, Sarah. Yep.

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And it turns out that Sarah-

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... Sarah is the ladies that we met.

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We loved,

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to me, the center of Mattapoisett was Baptist Street, where George

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White was.

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Right. Mm-hmm.

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Where the blacksmith was, where the museum was.

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You got an incredible museum there.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because of what we're going through with Karen, our oldest daughter, unfortunately.

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She's getting another one,

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a Nobel Prize with her husband

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at Berkeley, and she got in an accident after Karen-

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Mr. Zevero, we need to keep on track.

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We have a lot of things we have to attend to tonight.

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So, yes.

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So how I got here is Jackie and

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Sarah said, "Gus, I think that you

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should have a monument, too." One of my best friends was Malcolm.

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So we're the best friends.

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Mm-hmm.

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I worked for Palcas, and I made one big mistake, though.

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I went to the head of,

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in Fairhaven, to the head of the Select Council.

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And what I did there, I went and I met a lady that I met and knew,

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because to me,

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where I was brought up on Haven Street, my

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street where I enjoyed everything was to Baptist Street with George White,

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with a museum, even meeting these ladies in the museum

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on the last open house we went to, and you got an incredible museum there.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I mean-

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Is there something you want to do at the museum?

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I'm going to do a lot for Mattapoisett.

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If-

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Okay. What's your request of us tonight? Because we have to move our meeting on.

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The request tonight is I hope that you support

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my father and I with a monument, and if Dad isn't on it,

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I'm not interested. I want my dad to be on there because of what he did for me.

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The smartest man I've ever known in my life, and he taught me.

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I remember he said, "See that person on the street there?

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See that person on the street there?" This is after I got an award from New York

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State. Every place I've gone, when you're nice to somebody, they've gone overboard

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for me.

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That's great.

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You're talking about millions of dollars, the State University of New York, they're

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my students. They know that Bev and I are very sick right now.

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I don't know if I'm going to get through the year. We've got two...

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When you're 92-

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What's your request to us here tonight?

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My request to us is I hope you approve that we get a monument in my name

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and my dad's name. That's my request.

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And if you don't do it,

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it's not going to stop what I'm going to be doing for the town of Mattapoisett.

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Long after I die, my daughter,

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the oldest daughter, knows, and we will support.

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We're going to do everything possible, as I've done every year, to support

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Mattapoisett. We're talking about if you need money, anything that Jackie needs,

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she knows that. Anything that Sarah needs, she's got it from us.

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No questions asked. And that's what I hope that you do, and if you don't do it,

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it's not going to

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make any difference other than I'll be hurt. I'll be hurt.

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I'll be honest about that.

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Oh.

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But it's not going to make a difference in terms of what I think of Mattapoisett

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and my support for Mattapoisett long after I die. Long after I die.

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We're making the wills now. I think I'm on borrowed time.

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Yeah.

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You know, 92 years old. All my father's, all of-

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Well, this monument, we don't usually have that kind of request in town.

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But that's-

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We have plaques and benches.

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Yeah. Well, the monument, I want a bench with that.

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I like the monument that,

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the only thing is that he wasn't alive to see it, that Malcolm got.

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There's a bench there, the monument's there.

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It's in-

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Where is this located?

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Yeah, in-

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Malcolm's monument.

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Yeah. And he and I were very, very close friends, and he was very proud that

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Fairhaven High School-

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Milton?

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What?

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Milton Zevero?

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The monument for Dr. Milton Zevero?

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Yeah, Milton Zevero.

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Yeah, okay.

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I'm very-

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At Ned's Point?

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Yep.

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At Ned's Point. Yeah. I essentially want the same thing on the other.

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We were quite good friends, and we both belonged to-

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And do you have a picture of what you're

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asking of as a monument?

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Of Palcas. We both belonged to Palcas, and I was,

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because of my reputation as a scientist on Palcas, they appointed me to

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represent the

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government of Portugal and fail-

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We're getting off track again. I'm sorry. We have to move on with our meeting.

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Okay.

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So you need to explain exactly what you-

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I essentially want what Malcolm has. That's what I would like.

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I don't know what he has. Does anybody know?

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Ray, it's a-

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It's a boulder with a plaque on it.

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It's a stone. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I thought.

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I was going to say, I think it's-

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It's got a plaque, a monument, and a chair. That's essentially what I want.

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We were close friends, and he was very, very proud.

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Fairhaven knows this. Fairhaven has done

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a lot for me and him. We were the first two in the Hall of Fame.

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The first two, and we were from Mattapoisett. He got a big kick out of that.

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The first two in the Hall of Fame of Fairhaven High School-

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Mm-hmm

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... was two Mattapoisetts, he and I.

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Mm-hmm.

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And they've been very good to me. They have a monument for me in Fairhaven

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outside. They have inside, a big plaque. They named a chair after me.

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All of that I didn't... So Fairhaven, and what Fairhaven has worked out and where I

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screwed up is I should have gone to-

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Mr. Zevero, what we need to do, we have to move forward with our meeting.

326
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Maybe we can all go down to Ned's Point, the board, and look and see.

327
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Yeah.

328
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Okay, here it is. Here.

329
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I should have gone down and seen you people.

330
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Yeah.

331
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But I went down and saw this lovely lady-

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Yes

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... at the museum, and I told her to ask me if anything I can do for her.

334
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Yeah.

335
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And she never did.

336
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Well, I think we have something we need to vote on, and-

337
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I should have seen the head of the-

338
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Okay.

339
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Yeah.

340
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Another time?

341
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Yeah.

342
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So-

343
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So why don't we, Dr. Zevero? Here.

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Gus.

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Gus. Gus is okay.

346
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I have-

347
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I didn't want to be presumptuous, but-

348
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I have honorary degrees all over the place.

349
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All right. So Gus, what we'll do is-

350
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What?

351
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Mike showed us the picture. I remember the...

352
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Ray, I think you were, were you and I on the board when we did that plaque?

353
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That was a number of years ago.

354
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Yes. Mm-hmm.

355
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So why don't we, we'll go take a look at that if that's something similar to what

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you're looking for.

357
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That's what I'm looking for.

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It's not something we get asked about very often, so understand that we're going to

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do our research and understand what's there.

360
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We have the information you provided to us.

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So what we'll do is we're going to take a look at the plaque down there, and then

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what we'll do is we'll have Michael or Katie get back in touch with you once we, as

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a board, have a chance to dig in a little bit deeper, and then we'll come back at a

364
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subsequent meeting, and we'll have a conversation about next steps forward.

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If there are steps forward, what that may be, but we'll get an idea of the order of

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magnitude, and we'll take it from there.

367
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I appreciate that.

368
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We do have other things to cover, as Jodi mentioned, but

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we appreciate you and your wife coming in, obviously, with the recent passing of

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your daughter. Our condolences to your family.

371
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But we do appreciate you taking the time to come in tonight-

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Right

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... and explaining what the request is.

374
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One last thing I want to tell you about is Mrs.

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Mattapoisett was

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Anna Bradley.

377
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Yes.

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Anna Bradley.

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I remember her.

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Anna Bradley

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did for all the Mattapoisett boys.

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The only thing that I gave you, that was all her stuff. That was in my mother's.

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She knew all the mothers and the Mattapoisetts, she went every day, the

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Mattapoisett kids. We went up on everybody, basically.

385
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Read it in the "Sandard Times."

386
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Mm-hmm.

387
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Very few of my many friends in Mattapoisett are alive now, and one of them is Lee

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Bradley. Another one is Polly Fields, but she's not doing that well now.

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Right.

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And-

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Thank you for all you do for the town.

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Thank you.

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We appreciate it.

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And-

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Thank you guys for coming here tonight.

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We have to move on.

397
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Yeah, we appreciate it. Thank you.

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I appreciate it, and remember, if whatever happens, it'll

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never stop. We'll be never-

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We understand and appreciate that.

401
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And that's Gus.

402
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Thank you, Gus.

403
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Thanks.

404
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I got enough doctors.

405
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Thank you.

406
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Thank you, Gus.

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God bless you all.

408
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Thank you.

409
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And I'll tell you who the alpha is at home.

410
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Aren't they all?

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I'm the alpha at the university. She's the alpha at home. God bless you all.

412
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Thank you.

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All right. Being 6:55, we're going to have our public hearing.

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Does anybody have the notice to read?

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Notice.

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Mattapoisett public notice of public hearing has been scheduled for September 22nd,

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2026, at 6:45 PM in the first floor conference room of the Mattapoisett Town Hall,

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16 Main Street, Mattapoisett, Mass and on Zoom, upon the application of Coco Bows

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Incorporated DBA Coco Bows Coastal Cantina, 20

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County Road, Mattapoisett, Mass 02739, requesting all alcohol license, common vic

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license, and entertainment license. Bryce Gilbo will be the manager on record.

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Mattapoisett Selectboard, Jodi L.

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Bauer, Chairperson, Jordan Collier, Vice Chair, Judith Murphy, Clerk, Francis

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Louise Kearns, Nicole Boylan.

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Come on board.

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Did you hear Bryce?

427
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I'm Bryce, yes.

428
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Nice to meet you, Bryce.

429
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You too.

430
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Welcome.

431
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Have a seat.

432
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Yes, definitely sit down.

433
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Have a seat, please.

434
00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:31,320
Absolutely.

435
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All right.

436
00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:34,350
We're excited about this. This is good news.

437
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Yeah, it is.

438
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Tell us a little bit about what's going on.

439
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Yeah. So I'll tell you about myself. I'm Bryce Gilbo. I'm 44 years old.

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I'm here with my wife, Brittany, back there.

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Brittany.

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And my trusted advisor, Kim Career.

443
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I am currently the head football coach at Old Rochester High School.

444
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Oh, okay.

445
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I've been in the restaurant business for 26 years.

446
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Most recently, last 12 years at Blue Fish Bar and Eatery in Marion, where I've been

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the general manager for the last seven years.

448
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So

449
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I've been in the business. I oversee day-to-day operations, hiring, staffing,

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trainings.

451
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It's my lifelong dream to always go out on my own and open my own restaurant.

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That location is a great opportunity for me. It's a smaller place.

453
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It's very manageable. My wife owns her own business here in town.

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She's a massage therapist, Ohana Body Works.

455
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It's 100 yards away from that, 20 County Road.

456
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So we're looking to obtain a liquor license, and the entertainment license, and

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everything like that.

458
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,920
Okay. Only question I have with entertainment, what are you thinking?

459
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And where?

460
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Yeah, inside, outside.

461
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Probably, a small one-man acoustic, something like that.

462
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Maybe inside, maybe, in the summertime out on the patio.

463
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No big rock and roll band.

464
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,750
No, I'm not, because I like live music.

465
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I don't like when you can't have a conversation.

466
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Okay.

467
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So that's not my really my vibe that I'm looking for, something more laid back.

468
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Yeah.

469
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Any questions, anybody? Francis?

470
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How many people you anticipate capacity for?

471
00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:09,121
Yeah, what is capacity?

472
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And I'm going off of what I was told when it was a previous spot.

473
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I heard it was like 60 something people inside and another 30 on the outside.

474
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So I drew my plan after talking to Christine according to that.

475
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Okay.

476
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That was my understanding from the previous people who had something there.

477
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How much does this layout vary from what was there?

478
00:23:31,861 --> 00:23:33,240
It's exactly the same. There's nothing-

479
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Oh, is that? Okay.

480
00:23:34,410 --> 00:23:35,880
There's nothing that's changed. It's the same.

481
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Very, very close.

482
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The only thing, it's been vacant for, I think, a year and a half, so a lot of

483
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cleaning in there, painting, some new decor going on the walls.

484
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Obviously, a new business name.

485
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Yeah.

486
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Right.

487
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Where'd you get your name from?

488
00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:51,480
So we have a dog, Coco. We have a dog, Bow.

489
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Oh.

490
00:23:51,810 --> 00:23:53,970
So Coco Bow's Coastal Cantina.

491
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Cool.

492
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He's kind of-

493
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All right.

494
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Yeah.

495
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Very cute.

496
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:57,660
Yep.

497
00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:03,121
I like it.

498
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:06,090
And you're restricted to the confines of the porch and the building.

499
00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:06,720
Yep. The patio.

500
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,850
There's nothing else outside.

501
00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:10,410
Nope, just the patio area.

502
00:24:10,861 --> 00:24:10,861
Okay.

503
00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:15,450
Yep, and I understand all the rules with enclosed, with the alcohol and everything.

504
00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:16,410
Yeah, it's very specific.

505
00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:18,450
Very knowledgeable about that, so.

506
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:24,000
Okay. Entertainment. So,

507
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were there, do you have the prior license, Katie?

508
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:29,310
I don't.

509
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:32,400
Were there any restrictions? I can't recall.

510
00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:35,999
There were when you did it, I believe.

511
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,270
Madam Chair, if I may.

512
00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:40,499
Yes.

513
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Are there any abutters?

514
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,890
One house on the corner on Pearl Street.

515
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:48,121
Yeah. Okay.

516
00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:50,580
Across the way, I think there's apartments.

517
00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:51,540
Apartments above the-

518
00:24:51,570 --> 00:24:53,160
Above the businesses.

519
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:54,780
Yeah, I met those folks the other day.

520
00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:58,890
Okay. They would've been all foreknown of this meeting.

521
00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,730
Yep, that's fine.

522
00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:00,510
Right?

523
00:25:00,570 --> 00:25:01,830
Yep, just to make sure. Yeah.

524
00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:05,190
Okay.

525
00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:05,371
Yep.

526
00:25:07,770 --> 00:25:09,240
So you're looking for acoustic, not-

527
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,310
Yeah, we're not looking to do like-

528
00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:13,650
Gus wanted to hear this.

529
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,310
Thank you.

530
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:14,640
Thank you.

531
00:25:14,670 --> 00:25:15,180
Thank you very much.

532
00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:18,630
It's not going to be like a three-piece band or anything like that. No.

533
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:19,801
Yeah.

534
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:20,910
Yeah.

535
00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:21,240
Yeah.

536
00:25:21,301 --> 00:25:21,510
Yep.

537
00:25:21,871 --> 00:25:22,200
Noise pollution.

538
00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:24,180
It's not like a DJ or anything. I'm not-

539
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:25,470
Noise could be a problem.

540
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:27,330
There's TVs. There's four televisions in there.

541
00:25:33,871 --> 00:25:35,940
No jukebox-

542
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,390
Jukebox

543
00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:39,330
... music, any of that stuff doesn't have to be in the background?

544
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:42,960
There will be music on through the speakers.

545
00:25:43,051 --> 00:25:43,230
Yeah.

546
00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:48,630
Yeah, but not karaoke or anything like that. That's not what we're looking to do.

547
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:50,611
Do you have a projected open?

548
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,950
Well, depending on the liquor license, we'd like to be open mid-October, beginning

549
00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:59,190
of November. I understand those things take time.

550
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,630
I understand that completely, but that's what we're working towards.

551
00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:05,101
That's what we're trying to do.

552
00:26:07,321 --> 00:26:10,950
So what kind of restrictions did you think you had on the other one?

553
00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:11,370
Because-

554
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,920
No amplified instrumental would be-

555
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,351
I think it's more about the noise, right?

556
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:16,741
Yeah.

557
00:26:16,801 --> 00:26:22,560
Because I think, just having something there is always better than not, but I think

558
00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:23,851
it's going to be more.

559
00:26:25,290 --> 00:26:30,361
We've typically, when there's been residents around, we typically try to stick with

560
00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:32,010
acoustic, non-amplified.

561
00:26:32,101 --> 00:26:32,340
Right.

562
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,540
Minimal amplification.

563
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:33,991
Right.

564
00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:35,730
Okay.

565
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,420
Lessons learned.

566
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,801
Yeah. Right.

567
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,080
Are hours set in stone for entertainment?

568
00:26:41,580 --> 00:26:42,120
Usually, yeah.

569
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,500
Is it until 8:00?

570
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:46,801
It's usually on the license as well. What are your projected hours of operation?

571
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,340
11:30, open up. We'd close for dinner Sunday through Thursday

572
00:26:53,370 --> 00:26:55,440
at 9:00 PM. We'd probably do close at 10:00.

573
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Okay.

574
00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:58,290
And then Friday, Saturday, an hour later.

575
00:26:58,351 --> 00:27:00,630
So the kitchen will close at 10:00, close at 11:00.

576
00:27:01,770 --> 00:27:02,310
That's all.

577
00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:05,580
So yeah. There's no late nights anymore, even with-

578
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,810
Yeah, I know. Even anymore

579
00:27:06,810 --> 00:27:06,840
... COVID.

580
00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,780
Yeah, you see how the streets just clear.

581
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,290
It's great.

582
00:27:10,351 --> 00:27:10,741
No, you're right.

583
00:27:10,741 --> 00:27:11,580
Being in the business now.

584
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,330
It is nice.

585
00:27:12,361 --> 00:27:15,301
11:15, you're at home instead of being home at 1:30 in the morning.

586
00:27:15,601 --> 00:27:16,500
It's true. Yeah.

587
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:16,770
Yeah.

588
00:27:17,491 --> 00:27:18,660
It's just a different-

589
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,051
Yeah.

590
00:27:20,899 --> 00:27:21,558
Yeah, I think it-

591
00:27:22,368 --> 00:27:24,348
A lot of people anxiously awaiting your-

592
00:27:24,558 --> 00:27:27,348
Yeah, they are. So I think it's a wonderful thing.

593
00:27:27,978 --> 00:27:30,558
No offense, I do appreciate that.

594
00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:32,298
Okay.

595
00:27:32,328 --> 00:27:33,169
Awesome.

596
00:27:33,228 --> 00:27:34,458
Guys, on anything?

597
00:27:35,298 --> 00:27:35,538
So-

598
00:27:35,779 --> 00:27:36,318
Instructions.

599
00:27:37,308 --> 00:27:38,419
Go ahead. No, go ahead.

600
00:27:38,568 --> 00:27:38,658
No.

601
00:27:38,779 --> 00:27:40,399
I would say, at this point,

602
00:27:42,198 --> 00:27:42,589
we'll vote.

603
00:27:43,938 --> 00:27:46,128
I would make a motion that we close the-

604
00:27:47,058 --> 00:27:47,328
Hearing

605
00:27:47,389 --> 00:27:49,098
... both.

606
00:27:49,158 --> 00:27:49,938
Well, how does-

607
00:27:49,998 --> 00:27:52,279
I just want to know how many employees did you think is out here?

608
00:27:53,779 --> 00:27:54,828
We're shooting for 15.

609
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:55,639
Great.

610
00:27:55,728 --> 00:27:56,808
Front of the house and back of house.

611
00:27:57,198 --> 00:27:58,008
It's going to be a small-

612
00:27:58,488 --> 00:27:58,488
Right

613
00:27:58,488 --> 00:28:00,678
... everything's going to be small. Small menu, small staff.

614
00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:03,618
Coming from where I'm at now, where it's 91 people in the summer-

615
00:28:04,098 --> 00:28:04,248
Right

616
00:28:04,248 --> 00:28:05,868
... my phone doesn't stop ringing.

617
00:28:05,928 --> 00:28:06,048
Right.

618
00:28:06,139 --> 00:28:09,257
So I'd rather the smaller we can keep it, the better, I think it'll be.

619
00:28:09,378 --> 00:28:09,737
Right. Sure.

620
00:28:09,798 --> 00:28:10,098
Yeah.

621
00:28:10,878 --> 00:28:11,328
Sure.

622
00:28:11,358 --> 00:28:11,899
It's good.

623
00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:15,228
Yeah, that was super.

624
00:28:15,288 --> 00:28:16,818
I make a motion to close the public hearing.

625
00:28:17,118 --> 00:28:17,478
Second.

626
00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:21,348
There's been a motion and it's been seconded to close the public hearing.

627
00:28:22,878 --> 00:28:23,779
All in favor?

628
00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:24,828
Aye.

629
00:28:24,948 --> 00:28:25,188
Aye.

630
00:28:25,218 --> 00:28:25,218
Aye.

631
00:28:25,308 --> 00:28:28,248
Aye. Passes unanimously.

632
00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:29,448
All right, so-

633
00:28:30,198 --> 00:28:32,808
From the press or the public?

634
00:28:33,048 --> 00:28:34,818
Questions from the public or the board members?

635
00:28:35,658 --> 00:28:37,639
Public, that's not anybody-

636
00:28:38,178 --> 00:28:39,649
Well, the board members after the hearing.

637
00:28:40,128 --> 00:28:40,399
Right.

638
00:28:41,419 --> 00:28:43,218
Raymond Hanks, 18 Crystal Spring Road.

639
00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:49,518
Will the consumption of alcohol be the same as it was before for patrons

640
00:28:49,548 --> 00:28:53,328
that are eating on the premises? There won't be a separate bar or anything?

641
00:28:53,389 --> 00:28:55,938
No, it won't. It's the same setup as that-

642
00:28:55,938 --> 00:28:56,178
Same as that

643
00:28:56,178 --> 00:28:59,899
... other day.

644
00:28:59,899 --> 00:28:59,988
Okay.

645
00:29:00,048 --> 00:29:03,078
See anybody. Press? No questions?

646
00:29:04,098 --> 00:29:09,139
All right. So couple votes. Madam Chair, I make a motion we approve the

647
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:13,698
common victualler's license and the all alcohol license as proposed.

648
00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:14,748
Second.

649
00:29:14,808 --> 00:29:15,378
Second.

650
00:29:15,498 --> 00:29:20,149
Then, motion's been moved and seconded. All in favor?

651
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:20,478
Aye.

652
00:29:20,568 --> 00:29:20,688
Aye.

653
00:29:20,899 --> 00:29:22,218
Passes unanimously.

654
00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:27,919
And Madam Chair, I make a motion we approve the entertainment license as requested

655
00:29:28,428 --> 00:29:29,598
with the stipulations,

656
00:29:31,308 --> 00:29:37,158
or in sure to include that there will be four televisions on premises as part of

657
00:29:37,158 --> 00:29:38,988
the entertainment license, as well as

658
00:29:40,908 --> 00:29:43,038
live music, non-amplified-

659
00:29:43,339 --> 00:29:43,428
Right

660
00:29:43,458 --> 00:29:46,339
... acoustic during normal business hours only.

661
00:29:46,818 --> 00:29:47,508
Second.

662
00:29:47,568 --> 00:29:48,529
That sound about correct?

663
00:29:48,618 --> 00:29:50,748
Yeah, that sounds great.

664
00:29:50,779 --> 00:29:50,899
Okay.

665
00:29:50,928 --> 00:29:50,928
Yeah.

666
00:29:50,928 --> 00:29:52,279
You can always come back and modify.

667
00:29:52,698 --> 00:29:52,848
Yeah.

668
00:29:53,118 --> 00:29:53,149
Yeah.

669
00:29:53,178 --> 00:29:55,368
So there's been a motion, it's been seconded. All in favor?

670
00:29:55,878 --> 00:29:56,089
Aye.

671
00:29:56,118 --> 00:29:56,118
Aye.

672
00:29:56,238 --> 00:29:58,488
Aye. Passes unanimously.

673
00:30:00,048 --> 00:30:00,978
And I think we're done.

674
00:30:01,218 --> 00:30:01,998
Yeah, we're good.

675
00:30:02,118 --> 00:30:02,658
So good luck.

676
00:30:02,688 --> 00:30:03,378
Thank you so much.

677
00:30:03,618 --> 00:30:05,058
No, good luck to you.

678
00:30:05,118 --> 00:30:05,658
Good luck with it.

679
00:30:05,688 --> 00:30:06,258
Christine.

680
00:30:06,348 --> 00:30:06,558
Okay.

681
00:30:06,589 --> 00:30:06,768
Yeah.

682
00:30:07,218 --> 00:30:08,298
All right. Awesome. Thank you so much.

683
00:30:08,358 --> 00:30:09,708
And also, you. Just,

684
00:30:12,139 --> 00:30:13,578
you're not going to start alcohol.

685
00:30:14,598 --> 00:30:17,178
You can't soft open with a food and liquor license-

686
00:30:17,238 --> 00:30:17,389
Correct

687
00:30:17,419 --> 00:30:18,529
... as you probably know.

688
00:30:18,589 --> 00:30:18,708
Yep.

689
00:30:19,098 --> 00:30:22,399
So if there's a delay with the alcohol permits, you're not serving.

690
00:30:22,818 --> 00:30:27,018
Yep. Is that something I have to come up to Town Hall to let you know, "Hey, we're

691
00:30:27,048 --> 00:30:28,038
doing this," or we can just-

692
00:30:28,038 --> 00:30:28,908
Just don't serve alcohol.

693
00:30:28,968 --> 00:30:30,078
So yeah, just not serve alcohol.

694
00:30:30,139 --> 00:30:32,298
Just because you have the bar doesn't mean you have to use it.

695
00:30:32,328 --> 00:30:32,389
Yeah.

696
00:30:32,419 --> 00:30:35,448
But if there's an issue and you want to start doing food-

697
00:30:35,688 --> 00:30:35,779
Yeah

698
00:30:35,779 --> 00:30:39,828
... oh, the food truck. Is the food truck part of this common victualer-

699
00:30:39,858 --> 00:30:40,218
It looked like it

700
00:30:40,218 --> 00:30:41,089
... or is it separate?

701
00:30:42,348 --> 00:30:45,828
So I saw something on there on the food truck. Yeah.

702
00:30:46,608 --> 00:30:48,978
The food truck doesn't require a license.

703
00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:49,908
Is it a separate-

704
00:30:49,908 --> 00:30:50,718
Oh, that's totally separate

705
00:30:50,748 --> 00:30:51,798
... it's a prep kitchen.

706
00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:52,938
Oh, okay.

707
00:30:52,968 --> 00:30:53,419
Yeah.

708
00:30:53,508 --> 00:30:55,488
So that is what a health inspector-

709
00:30:55,518 --> 00:30:56,058
Yeah, because you're not doing food on the premises

710
00:30:56,089 --> 00:31:00,228
... because I saw food truck and you got a liquor storage. That's just for... Okay.

711
00:31:00,288 --> 00:31:00,618
Yeah.

712
00:31:00,738 --> 00:31:01,669
Okay. Awesome.

713
00:31:01,698 --> 00:31:05,238
Yeah, so if you decide you want to do food, you want to do takeout, or you want to

714
00:31:05,298 --> 00:31:09,558
just try out some menu items, you can sell prepared food with your common victual.

715
00:31:09,589 --> 00:31:11,328
That's not a state license, that's only us.

716
00:31:11,598 --> 00:31:11,928
Okay.

717
00:31:12,048 --> 00:31:14,839
So you have flexibility if you want to do something like that.

718
00:31:15,558 --> 00:31:16,998
In the event you decide you want it.

719
00:31:17,058 --> 00:31:18,438
Yeah. Okay, that's awesome.

720
00:31:19,158 --> 00:31:19,578
Okay.

721
00:31:19,608 --> 00:31:19,788
All right.

722
00:31:20,178 --> 00:31:20,628
Good luck.

723
00:31:20,688 --> 00:31:21,618
Thank you, guys, so much.

724
00:31:21,678 --> 00:31:21,919
Thank you.

725
00:31:21,978 --> 00:31:23,058
Have a good night. Thank you.

726
00:31:23,238 --> 00:31:24,589
Yay. Good luck.

727
00:31:26,538 --> 00:31:28,818
Two new food establishments in a couple months now.

728
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:30,348
I like it. I like it.

729
00:31:30,408 --> 00:31:31,218
Have a good night.

730
00:31:31,998 --> 00:31:32,118
See you soon.

731
00:31:32,118 --> 00:31:32,779
Good luck, good luck.

732
00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:33,048
Thank you.

733
00:31:34,818 --> 00:31:34,998
Appreciate it.

734
00:31:35,089 --> 00:31:39,018
The next is a summer review and program updates for the recreation director.

735
00:31:39,078 --> 00:31:40,998
That's Marissa Hughes. Come on up.

736
00:31:41,058 --> 00:31:41,958
Come on, Marissa.

737
00:31:42,139 --> 00:31:43,399
I'm in the hot seat, I guess.

738
00:31:43,458 --> 00:31:43,848
Yes.

739
00:31:45,288 --> 00:31:49,848
Just wanted to invite you so the new board members can meet you-

740
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:50,448
Of course

741
00:31:50,568 --> 00:31:51,438
... and see who's-

742
00:31:51,858 --> 00:31:52,008
Great

743
00:31:52,038 --> 00:31:56,508
... in charge of our rec stuff, and just give us an idea of how the summer went and

744
00:31:56,568 --> 00:31:58,488
how the future programs are going, and-

745
00:31:59,419 --> 00:31:59,568
Sure

746
00:31:59,598 --> 00:32:00,798
... what your plan is.

747
00:32:00,858 --> 00:32:01,218
Sure.

748
00:32:01,788 --> 00:32:02,298
Thank you.

749
00:32:02,568 --> 00:32:07,279
We had seven weeks of camp. We were hoping to have eight weeks of camp, however,

750
00:32:07,368 --> 00:32:09,529
Mother Nature had other plans for us-

751
00:32:09,558 --> 00:32:09,558
Oh, I see

752
00:32:09,558 --> 00:32:12,139
... so we were able to still do the seven weeks.

753
00:32:13,368 --> 00:32:18,889
So seven weeks at center school. The kids daily went to the beach, had tennis

754
00:32:18,948 --> 00:32:24,768
lessons, they had swim lessons. We went from four to five groups this summer, which

755
00:32:24,828 --> 00:32:30,108
was nice, so we were able to expand a little bit, because we saw the need of

756
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:32,988
putting the six-year-olds and the seven-year-olds in their own group.

757
00:32:33,078 --> 00:32:35,058
So we were able to do that, which was nice.

758
00:32:35,628 --> 00:32:36,948
Because you have little ones.

759
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,839
We have the four and five-year-olds also.

760
00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:40,458
That is good to split.

761
00:32:40,548 --> 00:32:43,878
Yes. And we were lucky this past summer because the four and five-year-olds, we

762
00:32:43,908 --> 00:32:47,508
were able to get one lead counselor who was with them all summer long.

763
00:32:47,568 --> 00:32:51,169
So that was their main person who just was consistent for that group.

764
00:32:51,198 --> 00:32:52,128
Because it's the toughest group.

765
00:32:53,118 --> 00:32:54,048
That's tough, yeah.

766
00:32:55,788 --> 00:32:58,458
Toughest group only because many of those children haven't even been to school

767
00:32:58,518 --> 00:32:58,848
before.

768
00:32:59,298 --> 00:32:59,928
Oh, right.

769
00:33:00,018 --> 00:33:00,678
Right.

770
00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:02,928
So this would be their first experience, and it's a full day.

771
00:33:03,018 --> 00:33:05,118
It's not even a half day, it's a full day, so.

772
00:33:07,038 --> 00:33:10,608
We were able to bring in yoga once a week, which was a nice new addition that we

773
00:33:10,698 --> 00:33:14,658
added this year. We were able to add a storyteller this year, and then we did some

774
00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:18,919
of our other programming. We did a foam party, we did

775
00:33:20,178 --> 00:33:23,118
knucklebones, we did the water slide.

776
00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:23,688
Oh, fun.

777
00:33:23,718 --> 00:33:28,758
The ice cream truck come. And then, the director, Sarah, did a great Mattapoisett

778
00:33:28,848 --> 00:33:31,399
special week where we did all things around Mattapoisett.

779
00:33:31,878 --> 00:33:34,758
The fire department came, the police department came.

780
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:35,358
Okay.

781
00:33:35,419 --> 00:33:39,468
We went to Dunsentra Park and did a little tour up there.

782
00:33:39,708 --> 00:33:43,098
They also went down and did a picnic one day.

783
00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:45,258
I'm trying to think of the name of the park over here.

784
00:33:45,618 --> 00:33:46,758
Mm-hmm. Oh, Monroe Park.

785
00:33:46,787 --> 00:33:48,318
Monroe Park, yes.

786
00:33:48,348 --> 00:33:48,348
Yeah.

787
00:33:48,377 --> 00:33:51,017
So they did that. Yes. And they did the museum also.

788
00:33:51,107 --> 00:33:51,558
Oh, yeah.

789
00:33:51,857 --> 00:33:52,068
Nice.

790
00:33:52,127 --> 00:33:55,488
And the library. Yep, the library was a weekly visit for them.

791
00:33:55,518 --> 00:33:56,928
They went to the library once a week.

792
00:33:57,408 --> 00:33:57,798
Wow.

793
00:33:57,858 --> 00:33:58,458
That's great.

794
00:33:58,518 --> 00:33:59,149
That's really-

795
00:33:59,328 --> 00:33:59,808
That's nice

796
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:00,978
... keeping them busy.

797
00:34:01,038 --> 00:34:01,968
Yes, it was great.

798
00:34:01,968 --> 00:34:02,118
That's great.

799
00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:05,238
It was great. So we look forward to next summer.

800
00:34:07,008 --> 00:34:10,038
The director is interested in coming back, so that's always a good thing, because

801
00:34:10,458 --> 00:34:12,108
the more consistency you can have-

802
00:34:12,529 --> 00:34:12,798
Mm-hmm

803
00:34:12,798 --> 00:34:14,628
... the program tends to grow that way.

804
00:34:14,688 --> 00:34:18,228
We did staff 20 counselors this year, so kept a lot of-

805
00:34:18,288 --> 00:34:19,518
Wow

806
00:34:19,578 --> 00:34:20,658
... kids busy working.

807
00:34:21,228 --> 00:34:21,348
Yeah.

808
00:34:21,408 --> 00:34:26,598
Who's the director? Her name is Sarah Zager. Okay. She summers here. Okay.

809
00:34:26,628 --> 00:34:28,069
And she's a teacher during the school year.

810
00:34:28,428 --> 00:34:28,848
Oh, nice.

811
00:34:29,089 --> 00:34:32,238
Very nice. Yes. The beach was open for eight weeks.

812
00:34:32,328 --> 00:34:34,578
We were able to have 14 staff over there,

813
00:34:36,319 --> 00:34:40,128
which I thought it went really smooth this summer. We did have a couple hot days.

814
00:34:40,308 --> 00:34:40,608
We had a-

815
00:34:41,268 --> 00:34:41,388
Crazy

816
00:34:41,419 --> 00:34:44,779
... couple of fainting people, but they handled the situation very nicely.

817
00:34:45,348 --> 00:34:47,688
Yeah, I heard that. Yep.

818
00:34:47,718 --> 00:34:50,899
So, yeah. We were able to replace a few of the swings at the beach this summer.

819
00:34:51,649 --> 00:34:52,128
Good.

820
00:34:52,188 --> 00:34:58,008
So that was something good. Also, the pickleball court was painted, and we put up a

821
00:34:58,038 --> 00:34:59,148
new net over there.

822
00:34:59,418 --> 00:35:00,168
That's all right.

823
00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:03,048
Yes, so a lot of people have been complimenting that.

824
00:35:03,468 --> 00:35:03,768
Okay.

825
00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:07,488
So, and our fall programs just started last week.

826
00:35:08,868 --> 00:35:10,279
I'm trying to think how many we have.

827
00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:15,978
We went from 14 last year, and we have 21 programs running this fall.

828
00:35:16,908 --> 00:35:17,088
Great.

829
00:35:17,118 --> 00:35:21,738
And anywhere from 30 to 70 kids staying after school from 3:00 to 4:00.

830
00:35:21,798 --> 00:35:22,578
That's great.

831
00:35:22,668 --> 00:35:23,418
Yeah, that is nice.

832
00:35:23,449 --> 00:35:26,779
It's really important because it's so hard to find afterschool care in our

833
00:35:26,779 --> 00:35:26,808
community.

834
00:35:26,838 --> 00:35:27,798
It really is.

835
00:35:27,828 --> 00:35:30,199
So to have that option is really-

836
00:35:30,588 --> 00:35:33,048
For parents, it gives them that extra hour, so.

837
00:35:33,108 --> 00:35:34,668
Yep, it really is great

838
00:35:34,668 --> 00:35:37,908
... and the kids love it because there's a variety of things we have.

839
00:35:37,938 --> 00:35:38,358
Good deal.

840
00:35:38,418 --> 00:35:41,868
Yeah. We have some sports fits. We have some volleyball.

841
00:35:41,928 --> 00:35:46,788
We have a floor hockey clinic coming up. We have jazzy jewelry.

842
00:35:46,848 --> 00:35:52,338
We have diamond art. We have several Lego clubs. The Lego clubs are really hot.

843
00:35:52,968 --> 00:35:53,148
Sweet.

844
00:35:54,738 --> 00:35:58,188
We started K to 2 with Lego, and now we go all the way to sixth grade.

845
00:35:58,518 --> 00:35:59,478
Yeah. That's amazing.

846
00:35:59,538 --> 00:36:01,488
We have so many children who just love their Legos.

847
00:36:01,668 --> 00:36:01,788
Yeah.

848
00:36:01,818 --> 00:36:03,138
That's great.

849
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,478
Yeah. Oh, Beyblade Club, that's another fun one.

850
00:36:06,018 --> 00:36:08,538
I did have a boy stop me in the gym today and ask me, "Mrs.

851
00:36:08,718 --> 00:36:11,808
Hughes, when are we going to start a chess club?" So we're hoping that will be

852
00:36:11,838 --> 00:36:12,168
winter.

853
00:36:12,468 --> 00:36:12,498
Nice.

854
00:36:12,558 --> 00:36:13,578
Yeah. Nice.

855
00:36:13,998 --> 00:36:14,449
Oh, my.

856
00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:14,628
Yeah.

857
00:36:14,958 --> 00:36:15,228
Yeah. So.

858
00:36:15,949 --> 00:36:16,968
That's great.

859
00:36:17,478 --> 00:36:18,168
That's good. That is good.

860
00:36:18,228 --> 00:36:20,598
Basketball registration will open up on October 1st.

861
00:36:20,658 --> 00:36:24,199
That's one of our big recreational seasons coming up.

862
00:36:24,978 --> 00:36:28,398
And then we'll start a whole new programming probably right after Thanksgiving.

863
00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:33,618
Yeah. We did go to the open houses this year too, the school's open houses.

864
00:36:33,648 --> 00:36:33,918
Oh, okay.

865
00:36:34,008 --> 00:36:35,208
I think we've done that for the last two years.

866
00:36:35,268 --> 00:36:38,388
I think that's a great way, especially for new families to get to know us.

867
00:36:39,138 --> 00:36:39,138
Oh, yeah.

868
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:44,208
We also began an Instagram page besides the Facebook page, but we feel like the

869
00:36:44,268 --> 00:36:46,158
younger families are now into Instagram.

870
00:36:46,279 --> 00:36:47,238
Oh, most are, yes.

871
00:36:47,358 --> 00:36:49,398
So we do a lot of communication that way.

872
00:36:49,758 --> 00:36:49,938
Yeah.

873
00:36:50,298 --> 00:36:50,628
So.

874
00:36:50,808 --> 00:36:53,268
That's all. Yeah. That's good. Great.

875
00:36:53,777 --> 00:36:54,108
Yeah.

876
00:36:54,168 --> 00:36:56,418
What about interest for adult programs?

877
00:36:56,538 --> 00:36:57,738
Adults, yeah.

878
00:36:57,798 --> 00:36:58,488
This has come up-

879
00:36:58,998 --> 00:36:59,358
Sure

880
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:01,848
... a few times now, and I've always been told there's just no interest.

881
00:37:02,718 --> 00:37:05,718
I did try adult pickleball. One person signed up over the summer.

882
00:37:05,808 --> 00:37:06,498
Oh, my.

883
00:37:06,678 --> 00:37:07,908
So I did try it.

884
00:37:08,088 --> 00:37:08,298
Oh.

885
00:37:09,258 --> 00:37:11,358
But Mahjong seems to be the new thing.

886
00:37:11,358 --> 00:37:11,568
Oh, that.

887
00:37:11,598 --> 00:37:13,008
I know that people stay away.

888
00:37:13,038 --> 00:37:13,279
They are all-

889
00:37:13,279 --> 00:37:15,288
Those older people, yes

890
00:37:15,288 --> 00:37:17,568
... the topic of conversation at dinner on Saturday, so.

891
00:37:17,598 --> 00:37:18,617
Yeah, I did learn that from-

892
00:37:18,798 --> 00:37:21,138
Really?

893
00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:22,158
That's why I was asking.

894
00:37:22,279 --> 00:37:23,838
So that might be something that we might...

895
00:37:23,898 --> 00:37:27,558
I know the Council on Aging does it during the day, but maybe it's something for

896
00:37:27,648 --> 00:37:32,178
later to do in the rec office, offer it for some people who might wanna learn.

897
00:37:32,298 --> 00:37:34,158
They're pretty-- You guys are a little less than that.

898
00:37:34,188 --> 00:37:36,348
There are a lot of other people in Pretty Defense.

899
00:37:36,438 --> 00:37:38,208
There are a lot of people that do Mahjong.

900
00:37:38,449 --> 00:37:39,199
I hear that.

901
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:40,308
Because we have days that they come.

902
00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:40,758
It is-

903
00:37:40,968 --> 00:37:42,228
Then they go to other houses

904
00:37:42,258 --> 00:37:46,038
... I went, and it's a lot of people, and they are very-

905
00:37:46,518 --> 00:37:47,358
Into it, right?

906
00:37:47,358 --> 00:37:47,568
... intense. Yeah.

907
00:37:47,958 --> 00:37:48,708
Into it.

908
00:37:48,798 --> 00:37:49,548
Not, yeah.

909
00:37:52,308 --> 00:37:52,308
Right.

910
00:37:52,368 --> 00:37:53,358
It's, yeah.

911
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:54,678
So I don't know. I mean-

912
00:37:54,738 --> 00:37:54,949
It's a lot

913
00:37:55,218 --> 00:37:56,988
... if people approach me, I try to-

914
00:37:57,048 --> 00:37:58,608
Yep, that's good

915
00:37:58,728 --> 00:38:01,788
... look into things. Like I brought back swim lessons this summer at the beach

916
00:38:01,848 --> 00:38:03,858
because we had people asking about swim lessons.

917
00:38:03,888 --> 00:38:04,008
Right.

918
00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:05,868
So we did bring back the swim lessons.

919
00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:06,318
Oh.

920
00:38:06,348 --> 00:38:10,699
We also added CIT program back at camp this summer too, because people-

921
00:38:11,238 --> 00:38:11,268
Yeah.

922
00:38:11,298 --> 00:38:13,998
So if people express an interest, we try to-

923
00:38:14,628 --> 00:38:15,588
Hmm. Yeah

924
00:38:15,588 --> 00:38:17,328
... look into it and see how we can offer it.

925
00:38:17,568 --> 00:38:18,078
Great.

926
00:38:18,168 --> 00:38:22,068
So volleyball is a big new topic, too, that we're covering.

927
00:38:22,128 --> 00:38:24,918
We have boys volleyball after school.

928
00:38:24,978 --> 00:38:28,368
We have girls volleyball, and we've started a little competitive league that's

929
00:38:28,968 --> 00:38:29,718
gonna start in January.

930
00:38:29,748 --> 00:38:30,168
That's wonderful.

931
00:38:30,228 --> 00:38:32,328
And we had 26 girls sign up for it.

932
00:38:32,628 --> 00:38:33,078
Really?

933
00:38:33,138 --> 00:38:33,558
Yes.

934
00:38:33,738 --> 00:38:34,068
Awesome.

935
00:38:34,098 --> 00:38:34,428
Great.

936
00:38:34,428 --> 00:38:37,368
They've been traveling pretty far, so we were able to bring it here for them.

937
00:38:37,548 --> 00:38:37,968
That's awesome.

938
00:38:38,058 --> 00:38:38,208
Right.

939
00:38:38,238 --> 00:38:38,718
Yes.

940
00:38:38,808 --> 00:38:39,858
Yeah, that's good.

941
00:38:40,638 --> 00:38:40,998
So.

942
00:38:41,029 --> 00:38:44,118
Yep. Sounds like it's going really well.

943
00:38:44,178 --> 00:38:44,478
Yeah.

944
00:38:45,258 --> 00:38:45,498
Busy.

945
00:38:45,618 --> 00:38:47,029
I think so, yeah. It is busy.

946
00:38:47,298 --> 00:38:47,658
Busy.

947
00:38:47,748 --> 00:38:51,288
I feel like we have a week or two where it's kind of quiet, and then we gotta get

948
00:38:51,348 --> 00:38:51,498
ready for the next-

949
00:38:51,558 --> 00:38:52,998
Yeah, you gotta get to the next season

950
00:38:53,058 --> 00:38:54,828
... yes, whatever's coming next, so.

951
00:38:55,279 --> 00:38:55,608
Yeah.

952
00:38:55,608 --> 00:38:57,498
Yep. Good. Yep.

953
00:38:57,588 --> 00:38:58,068
I know.

954
00:38:58,098 --> 00:38:58,758
Good for you.

955
00:38:58,998 --> 00:38:59,958
Good meeting you.

956
00:39:00,018 --> 00:39:00,258
Yeah.

957
00:39:00,318 --> 00:39:03,648
This is great. I was wondering, though, if there'd be an opportunity to expand to

958
00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:05,478
junior high grades.

959
00:39:05,508 --> 00:39:05,598
Hmm.

960
00:39:05,868 --> 00:39:09,228
The high school kids, I feel like, are pretty well scheduled.

961
00:39:09,498 --> 00:39:09,828
Pretty well represented there.

962
00:39:09,888 --> 00:39:10,518
But there's,

963
00:39:11,779 --> 00:39:14,838
like I feel like there's just a gap at that junior high to senior high.

964
00:39:15,168 --> 00:39:15,199
Yeah.

965
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,568
Like babysitting skills or-

966
00:39:17,718 --> 00:39:18,738
Oh, a babysitting-

967
00:39:18,978 --> 00:39:19,848
We have a class tomorrow night

968
00:39:19,908 --> 00:39:22,428
... oh, a babysitting class.

969
00:39:22,668 --> 00:39:22,908
36.

970
00:39:22,968 --> 00:39:23,088
Nice.

971
00:39:23,118 --> 00:39:23,958
See, that's good.

972
00:39:25,308 --> 00:39:28,128
I'm trying to figure out how to reach out to that age group.

973
00:39:28,248 --> 00:39:31,068
Because it is a hard age group. You're right. That is a tough one.

974
00:39:31,098 --> 00:39:32,268
We did offer volleyball-

975
00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:34,279
Because I really wanted to do it

976
00:39:34,518 --> 00:39:35,358
... at the junior high, and nobody signed up.

977
00:39:35,449 --> 00:39:35,598
Yeah.

978
00:39:36,078 --> 00:39:39,378
Nobody signed up. So I think they have a volleyball team at the junior high, but we

979
00:39:39,438 --> 00:39:41,118
did offer a volleyball skills clinic-

980
00:39:41,418 --> 00:39:41,449
Yeah

981
00:39:41,449 --> 00:39:43,699
... and not one junior high person signed up.

982
00:39:43,758 --> 00:39:44,147
That's it.

983
00:39:44,178 --> 00:39:44,237
Oh, no.

984
00:39:44,237 --> 00:39:47,029
That's the tough part, is trying to get them to.

985
00:39:47,748 --> 00:39:48,199
Wow.

986
00:39:48,288 --> 00:39:52,548
I can reach out to the principal up there, Silas, and see if I can see.

987
00:39:52,578 --> 00:39:52,699
Nice.

988
00:39:52,788 --> 00:39:56,268
Because maybe there's some teachers up there who might wanna run a quick afternoon.

989
00:39:57,828 --> 00:40:00,408
There was a couple things that those were talking about.

990
00:40:01,458 --> 00:40:05,748
So someone was just saying to talk with the library?

991
00:40:05,898 --> 00:40:06,168
Is that-

992
00:40:06,318 --> 00:40:07,098
Did you see that?

993
00:40:07,098 --> 00:40:07,098
Yeah.

994
00:40:07,158 --> 00:40:07,398
Yeah.

995
00:40:09,288 --> 00:40:10,908
Do you have a comment on junior high?

996
00:40:10,968 --> 00:40:11,508
Do you have a comment?

997
00:40:12,318 --> 00:40:12,768
You-

998
00:40:12,798 --> 00:40:14,718
Marissa, is to talk to-

999
00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:15,078
Oh, she wrote-

1000
00:40:15,138 --> 00:40:15,468
She wrote-

1001
00:40:15,738 --> 00:40:19,638
Yeah, Gina wrote, "Tell her to work with Matt resembling for the public library.

1002
00:40:19,728 --> 00:40:24,228
Betsy, the librarian, is really keyed into that group." That's what she wrote.

1003
00:40:24,288 --> 00:40:25,218
Oh, okay.

1004
00:40:25,308 --> 00:40:25,518
Yeah.

1005
00:40:27,138 --> 00:40:28,098
The junior high group?

1006
00:40:28,728 --> 00:40:29,449
Sorry. Go ahead, Gina.

1007
00:40:29,508 --> 00:40:34,608
Yeah. As a trustee, I know that Betsy's been really working with that group and

1008
00:40:34,668 --> 00:40:39,858
bringing in more and more people to be able to-- And youngsters are starting, that

1009
00:40:39,888 --> 00:40:44,388
particular age group is starting to show up and doing some technical stuff with

1010
00:40:44,508 --> 00:40:47,088
some of the seniors. They're doing an awful lot of things.

1011
00:40:47,449 --> 00:40:49,518
I feel like that's a really good connection.

1012
00:40:49,578 --> 00:40:49,968
Yeah.

1013
00:40:50,268 --> 00:40:55,788
Melissa, I processed your cultural council reimbursement, and it's going to the

1014
00:40:55,848 --> 00:41:01,428
town tomorrow. So Melissa's done a very good job of looking for cultural council

1015
00:41:01,488 --> 00:41:05,088
grants as well, and I just want to bring that up, so.

1016
00:41:05,988 --> 00:41:06,588
Thank you.

1017
00:41:06,738 --> 00:41:07,248
Thank you.

1018
00:41:07,308 --> 00:41:07,758
Thanks.

1019
00:41:07,818 --> 00:41:09,468
Good. Lauren?

1020
00:41:09,828 --> 00:41:14,718
Are you doing programs during Thanksgiving, Christmas, that parents that work, so

1021
00:41:14,779 --> 00:41:16,968
that they have some kind of daycare during that time?

1022
00:41:17,268 --> 00:41:20,779
Unfortunately, the schools are closed, and we're not allowed to use them during

1023
00:41:20,808 --> 00:41:21,738
those hours.

1024
00:41:21,918 --> 00:41:22,279
That's right.

1025
00:41:22,398 --> 00:41:24,949
So I guess only because of a custodian-

1026
00:41:25,008 --> 00:41:25,068
Yep

1027
00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:26,478
... and it would be a kind of a custody issue.

1028
00:41:26,508 --> 00:41:28,308
That's when they probably do deep cleaning.

1029
00:41:28,368 --> 00:41:29,478
Then they do that also.

1030
00:41:29,568 --> 00:41:29,779
Yeah.

1031
00:41:29,808 --> 00:41:30,468
Yes.

1032
00:41:30,498 --> 00:41:30,588
Yeah.

1033
00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:33,108
That's why the camp has to end by a certain date in August-

1034
00:41:33,318 --> 00:41:33,529
Right

1035
00:41:33,558 --> 00:41:34,218
... so they can finish.

1036
00:41:34,668 --> 00:41:35,568
Yeah, they won't be able to use it.

1037
00:41:35,598 --> 00:41:36,618
Yes. That is a good idea.

1038
00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:40,638
Well, your camp is fabulous because my grandson went for the first time and slept

1039
00:41:40,668 --> 00:41:41,748
for 12 hours a night.

1040
00:41:43,428 --> 00:41:44,928
He was really tired.

1041
00:41:44,958 --> 00:41:46,398
He was really tired.

1042
00:41:46,488 --> 00:41:47,538
Wow, that's great.

1043
00:41:47,598 --> 00:41:47,898
I know.

1044
00:41:47,928 --> 00:41:48,529
That's worth its weight in gold.

1045
00:41:48,529 --> 00:41:50,148
It's been great. Right? It is.

1046
00:41:50,178 --> 00:41:51,888
This is so refreshing.

1047
00:41:51,978 --> 00:41:52,158
Yeah.

1048
00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:53,358
Yeah, this is wonderful.

1049
00:41:53,388 --> 00:41:54,798
It is. Great program.

1050
00:41:54,828 --> 00:41:54,949
Thank you.

1051
00:41:55,008 --> 00:41:56,658
Yeah. Thank you so, so much.

1052
00:41:57,318 --> 00:41:57,798
Have a great night.

1053
00:41:57,828 --> 00:41:59,508
Yes, you also. Thank you.

1054
00:41:59,508 --> 00:41:59,838
Thanks.

1055
00:42:01,038 --> 00:42:02,688
That is really wonderful.

1056
00:42:02,748 --> 00:42:04,008
Sorry about that. My phone was ringing.

1057
00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:04,548
Mm-hmm.

1058
00:42:05,298 --> 00:42:06,558
All right. Next item-

1059
00:42:06,678 --> 00:42:08,718
All right, Ray, come on up.

1060
00:42:08,748 --> 00:42:10,518
Yep, come on up. So we'll get you-

1061
00:42:11,388 --> 00:42:15,318
So if you don't know, this is Ray Andrews, and-

1062
00:42:17,058 --> 00:42:18,048
Nice to meet you

1063
00:42:18,048 --> 00:42:21,888
... he's gonna talk about the center school clock tower.

1064
00:42:22,848 --> 00:42:22,848
So-

1065
00:42:22,878 --> 00:42:25,279
Because he's in charge of that.

1066
00:42:25,338 --> 00:42:26,178
How much do you want?

1067
00:42:26,238 --> 00:42:29,568
He's gonna keep the clock for a long time.

1068
00:42:30,588 --> 00:42:32,178
So going back a little ways.

1069
00:42:32,268 --> 00:42:33,468
Yeah, just a little, right?

1070
00:42:33,798 --> 00:42:34,128
Yeah.

1071
00:42:35,688 --> 00:42:37,428
Thank you. Thank you, Ray.

1072
00:42:37,488 --> 00:42:38,268
If you two hear-

1073
00:42:38,478 --> 00:42:39,168
Question there?

1074
00:42:40,338 --> 00:42:40,758
I got it

1075
00:42:42,168 --> 00:42:42,648
right here.

1076
00:42:43,038 --> 00:42:43,398
Here you go, Ray.

1077
00:42:43,428 --> 00:42:43,968
Thank you, Ray.

1078
00:42:44,208 --> 00:42:46,728
Here you go, Ray. Thank you. I appreciate it.

1079
00:42:47,658 --> 00:42:47,928
Yep, we're good.

1080
00:42:47,928 --> 00:42:48,918
Are we looking for an overhaul, Ray?

1081
00:42:48,978 --> 00:42:54,618
Well, here's the deal. After 128 years, the weight of the bell and its

1082
00:42:54,708 --> 00:42:55,127
carriage

1083
00:42:56,388 --> 00:43:01,697
is sagging. The floor is sagging, as you see in the, go past the first page and the

1084
00:43:01,758 --> 00:43:04,218
second page, it's ponding right by the hatch coming up.

1085
00:43:04,248 --> 00:43:05,268
Mm-hmm.

1086
00:43:05,358 --> 00:43:08,748
The only way the water is now is evaporation.

1087
00:43:09,438 --> 00:43:12,648
If you go to the next page, right at the bottom, you see there's a weep hole.

1088
00:43:13,368 --> 00:43:15,558
On the east and west wall, there was a weep hole.

1089
00:43:15,618 --> 00:43:20,928
The original design of the clock was the clock was higher, the bell was high, and

1090
00:43:20,958 --> 00:43:25,068
the floor was self-draining. It no longer has the capability of self-draining

1091
00:43:25,098 --> 00:43:28,308
because of the weight and the sagging of the bell and the carriage.

1092
00:43:28,848 --> 00:43:29,779
You're looking at

1093
00:43:31,248 --> 00:43:34,638
a rough calculation, I think it was around 1500, 1600 pounds.

1094
00:43:35,898 --> 00:43:36,558
I talked with,

1095
00:43:39,858 --> 00:43:43,218
Rick Sharone, who was very helpful in the leasing project, and we had as a

1096
00:43:43,279 --> 00:43:43,638
structural-

1097
00:43:43,878 --> 00:43:45,168
Oh, right. Yep

1098
00:43:45,168 --> 00:43:50,988
... and Rick has worked up a price of $2,500 to do the design and the parts and the

1099
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:56,568
material list that I can take then and go to contractors to get bids for

1100
00:43:56,628 --> 00:44:00,588
CPCBA this year. We just do in November.

1101
00:44:01,068 --> 00:44:01,488
Right.

1102
00:44:01,578 --> 00:44:01,728
So

1103
00:44:03,978 --> 00:44:07,699
what has been done by the town already, which is a decent job that Mike did with

1104
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:08,779
the paint job outside.

1105
00:44:09,078 --> 00:44:09,228
Mm-hmm.

1106
00:44:09,858 --> 00:44:14,988
And under Mike Gagne, they did the, on the last page, they

1107
00:44:16,638 --> 00:44:21,228
ground out all the poor mortar in the brick on the bell floor and repointed it.

1108
00:44:22,338 --> 00:44:26,118
And then he also did the Temco AlphaGard flooring-

1109
00:44:26,568 --> 00:44:26,718
Mm-hmm

1110
00:44:26,718 --> 00:44:28,728
... on that floor because we had leaks coming in.

1111
00:44:29,988 --> 00:44:35,658
So now the idea is, from talking to Rick, that very last picture to the right is

1112
00:44:35,718 --> 00:44:41,118
probably to suspend some type of a cabling system, and it would be bolted through

1113
00:44:41,148 --> 00:44:45,888
the carriage. Underneath the floor below the carriage, there are two beams that run

1114
00:44:45,949 --> 00:44:47,988
the length of the beams in the carriage.

1115
00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:52,638
So going down to that point and then suspending it with some type of cabling system

1116
00:44:52,668 --> 00:44:53,688
and probably turnbuckling-

1117
00:44:53,868 --> 00:44:54,048
Right

1118
00:44:54,078 --> 00:44:56,058
... so we can slowly raise the floor up.

1119
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:03,048
So the point now is hopefully to get $2,500 from you so I can tell Rick to go ahead

1120
00:45:03,078 --> 00:45:08,148
and do it, so we can get it out to contractors for bidding for the November

1121
00:45:08,268 --> 00:45:09,768
CPC meetings.

1122
00:45:10,188 --> 00:45:14,838
Mm-hmm.

1123
00:45:14,868 --> 00:45:19,218
Oh, and just to let you know, the revolving fund is strictly established for the

1124
00:45:19,279 --> 00:45:22,458
maintenance of the clock, the clock mechanism, and the dial hands.

1125
00:45:22,548 --> 00:45:26,628
I specifically did that because the building belongs to you folks.

1126
00:45:26,748 --> 00:45:27,018
Mm-hmm.

1127
00:45:27,678 --> 00:45:29,538
We raised the money from private donations.

1128
00:45:29,598 --> 00:45:35,148
We raised $33,000 in private donations, $55,000 in CPA money, which was just for

1129
00:45:35,178 --> 00:45:38,508
the clock, the mechanism, and the dial. So we can't use any of that money for this.

1130
00:45:38,958 --> 00:45:39,708
So that's the

1131
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:42,090
A compact function.

1132
00:45:42,750 --> 00:45:42,991
Sure.

1133
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,570
And 2,500 is for design and what? You said-

1134
00:45:45,930 --> 00:45:47,940
The engineering and material list.

1135
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:51,780
So with an engineering and material list, I can go to the contractor and say, "All

1136
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,750
right, here's the design. Here's the material list you're going to need."

1137
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:55,020
Total.

1138
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:55,290
Okay.

1139
00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:56,221
"What's the price going to be?"

1140
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:57,060
Mm-hmm.

1141
00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:57,900
That's relevant.

1142
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,320
Yeah.

1143
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,130
Yeah.

1144
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,900
So that's important for me. So in that November cutoff date, CPC, I can go to-

1145
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:05,130
Listen, community preservation monies-

1146
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:05,730
Yeah

1147
00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:08,550
... he can apply for that through design.

1148
00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:12,270
So that's the idea, is next summer or next spring town meeting would be go an

1149
00:46:12,330 --> 00:46:13,620
article for historical grant.

1150
00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:13,890
Right.

1151
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:16,230
So what about-

1152
00:46:17,491 --> 00:46:20,460
So your option, building and grounds, we have budget in building and grounds.

1153
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,241
We could take 2,500, and I'd like to replace it at the fall if we do that, just

1154
00:46:24,270 --> 00:46:24,630
because we-

1155
00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:25,471
Right, because it-

1156
00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:25,920
We tend to-

1157
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,530
... was put in for something else, right? It's your budget.

1158
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:30,750
Oh, it's a general budget operating line.

1159
00:46:30,780 --> 00:46:30,991
All right.

1160
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:33,960
But we use building and grounds for basically anything that pops up.

1161
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:34,410
Sure.

1162
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,520
We typically just-

1163
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,890
25, I think we put 25,000 in there.

1164
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,340
Mm-hmm. And we've also had our past couple years.

1165
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:45,180
Um, no, we've overspent that line the last couple years.

1166
00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:45,991
It was.

1167
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,610
Uh, so we've gone back to town meeting to-

1168
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:48,930
To replenish

1169
00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:52,710
... or actually, year transferred it to, to offset that, just because things have

1170
00:46:52,741 --> 00:46:55,620
been breaking. Library, for example, there's been-

1171
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,430
Right. I was gonna say-

1172
00:46:56,430 --> 00:46:56,971
... a little bit at the library.

1173
00:46:56,971 --> 00:46:58,290
Some work at the library. Yeah.

1174
00:46:58,290 --> 00:47:00,480
So things fan... You know, there was almost a fire.

1175
00:47:00,510 --> 00:47:01,351
There was a fan that-

1176
00:47:01,710 --> 00:47:02,340
Mm-hmm

1177
00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:07,741
... that, uh, short-circuited. So, uh, we increased the building and grounds when I

1178
00:47:07,770 --> 00:47:11,221
got here because of the age of buildings, and we do painting and other things.

1179
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:13,440
Yeah, you had unforeseen conditions on the paycheck.

1180
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:13,770
Yeah.

1181
00:47:13,890 --> 00:47:14,910
A lot of woods had to be replaced.

1182
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,339
So, uh, there is money in that account you could use it for.

1183
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:21,150
I just would prefer to replace it because if something were to pop up, it's-

1184
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:21,300
Mm-hmm

1185
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:23,070
... it's not designated to any purpose.

1186
00:47:23,101 --> 00:47:27,660
But I will say we, with the amount of buildings we have, 25,000 isn't going to be

1187
00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:28,050
very far.

1188
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,090
No, it doesn't. Yeah, that's-

1189
00:47:30,090 --> 00:47:31,471
So it's September 22nd.

1190
00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:32,880
Yeah, well, I, I-

1191
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:35,491
And town, our special town meeting's on-

1192
00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:36,150
May

1193
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:37,500
... November 9th.

1194
00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:39,780
Oh, on the special, sorry. Sorry.

1195
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,120
Yeah, that's special.

1196
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:46,590
How quickly can Rick do this?

1197
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:48,150
Um,

1198
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:53,340
I think that, I just don't want Rick, you know, don't go into anything too deep.

1199
00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:58,620
Just give me a price, and then once I get okay from you, I need those plans so I

1200
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:58,741
can-

1201
00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:00,540
How, how, how quickly can Rick get you the plans?

1202
00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:02,670
Uh, he'll have in time for me to go for do...

1203
00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:06,690
I can get out to contractors in probably, like, I, I would imagine like a couple

1204
00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:11,250
weeks, and then I can get out to contractors to get bids from them, so I can take

1205
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,980
it to CPC with a number, at least two bids-

1206
00:48:14,010 --> 00:48:14,040
Two bids

1207
00:48:14,101 --> 00:48:18,450
... if not more, for this is what I got for you for the cost to do the job.

1208
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,800
CPA, when does that, when does that pass?

1209
00:48:22,860 --> 00:48:23,790
When will they do?

1210
00:48:23,851 --> 00:48:23,971
The, the-

1211
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:24,930
When's that gonna be due?

1212
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:26,250
November, right?

1213
00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:26,670
November.

1214
00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:27,660
Like, 13th.

1215
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:29,221
Just gotta, yeah, just gotta-

1216
00:48:29,370 --> 00:48:31,260
I was just gonna say mid-November usually.

1217
00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:33,030
And that one grades in. Yeah.

1218
00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:35,430
And that would fall under historical?

1219
00:48:35,491 --> 00:48:35,580
Yes.

1220
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,630
Historical, yeah.

1221
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:37,140
Okay.

1222
00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:38,010
It's an old school.

1223
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:38,700
Okay.

1224
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,540
1898.

1225
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,770
They just have to make sure they move money into that save bucket.

1226
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:45,510
Yes, Bob?

1227
00:48:45,601 --> 00:48:46,440
I have a question.

1228
00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:47,010
Yeah.

1229
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:52,230
Bob Spooner, River Road. Uh, I'm on the historical commission too, and we went

1230
00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:56,760
before-- well, what we wanted to do was make Center School on the National

1231
00:48:56,851 --> 00:49:02,370
Registry. Just wanted to put a plaque on it because the only thing, the, uh, um,

1232
00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:06,810
the range hall is the only one we have in town. So Ray, don't get me wrong.

1233
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,030
I wanna see it done too. But the question was, when we went before the school to

1234
00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:16,860
get approved, they want, they wouldn't let us do it because if anything, um,

1235
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,630
why was it not appointed? They wouldn't let, they wouldn't let it be approved

1236
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:25,860
because it's, I guess, would limit the funds that could be spent.

1237
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,700
Now we're only talking-

1238
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:27,180
It's highly restrictive.

1239
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:27,870
Right.

1240
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:31,080
We're only talking the original school. We're not talking the addition.

1241
00:49:31,230 --> 00:49:31,710
Right.

1242
00:49:31,741 --> 00:49:36,060
And that's why, uh, like I say, is they, they wouldn't let that happen.

1243
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:41,760
So if that be the case, so shouldn't it be that the school pays for these repairs?

1244
00:49:43,471 --> 00:49:44,310
It's a town building.

1245
00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:48,150
The school is on, the school is us. The lo- the local schools are technically us.

1246
00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:48,570
Yeah.

1247
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:52,770
So we, we, they're insured under us. They're, they're maintained by our funds.

1248
00:49:53,491 --> 00:49:55,890
Uh, OR would be different. They're a separate, uh,

1249
00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:59,940
organization. But these two schools are technically us.

1250
00:49:59,971 --> 00:50:01,650
No, but the maintenance of it, that's what I, that's what-

1251
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:01,741
Yeah

1252
00:50:01,770 --> 00:50:02,730
... the question I have as a homeowner.

1253
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:04,680
Yeah, but it, it's still paid under, under-

1254
00:50:04,770 --> 00:50:05,491
Right, under the town-

1255
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:05,910
Under the town-

1256
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,690
Townwide

1257
00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:06,721
... budget.

1258
00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:07,471
It's a local budget.

1259
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,741
Right.

1260
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,450
Like you did when they painted the school.

1261
00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:11,610
Yeah, it came out of that local budget with a-

1262
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:12,360
Okay

1263
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:13,770
... basically our operating funds.

1264
00:50:13,830 --> 00:50:17,130
All right. In, in your question, when we reached to the project in 2003-

1265
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:17,670
Right

1266
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:21,360
... Cafe, the architect. His first question, "Is this building listed on the

1267
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:23,550
national list?" He said, "No." "Right, good.

1268
00:50:24,241 --> 00:50:27,780
Don't even think about it till after we have completed the project."

1269
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Right.

1270
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,950
If you want to put the historic part on it after, fine, but don't do it now because

1271
00:50:31,950 --> 00:50:32,851
there's so many restrictions.

1272
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,300
Right.

1273
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:33,810
It does get restricted.

1274
00:50:33,870 --> 00:50:38,221
So as far as Cafe was concerned, as long as it wasn't on the list, they could do

1275
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,491
the engineering for both the old building and the new addition.

1276
00:50:42,210 --> 00:50:42,241
Right.

1277
00:50:42,241 --> 00:50:45,030
But now, from what they've said to me, is, "If you want it on the list, go ahead

1278
00:50:45,090 --> 00:50:46,440
and do it the historic part."

1279
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:49,230
Well, yeah, that was the only thing is, you know-

1280
00:50:49,351 --> 00:50:49,530
Yeah

1281
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,590
... uh, our last chair we had, she wanted to do it.

1282
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:52,890
Yep.

1283
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:56,010
And it just didn't happen. So don't get me, Ray, wrong.

1284
00:50:56,070 --> 00:50:58,500
Ray, if it comes before CPC, absolutely.

1285
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,780
I can't see why we wouldn't do it, save it. Well, that's gonna be the concern.

1286
00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:05,340
We did have a clock for June.

1287
00:51:05,790 --> 00:51:05,851
Mm-hmm.

1288
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,030
It was because the floor had sagged to the point it was causing binding on the

1289
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:09,630
drive shaft.

1290
00:51:09,721 --> 00:51:10,590
Oh, is that right? Yeah.

1291
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:13,380
Yeah, and so I had to do some manipulation to relieve the pressure.

1292
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:13,770
Yep.

1293
00:51:13,830 --> 00:51:16,770
It doesn't, a snow storm that's wet will stop the dials.

1294
00:51:16,981 --> 00:51:17,101
Mm-hmm.

1295
00:51:17,101 --> 00:51:21,990
The clock is designed to stop when any, if they have pressure on the dial hands or

1296
00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:22,770
any mechanism-

1297
00:51:22,891 --> 00:51:23,130
For sure

1298
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,210
... the clock just stops.

1299
00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:24,690
Mm-hmm.

1300
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:25,920
You figure out what's stopping it.

1301
00:51:26,101 --> 00:51:26,221
Sure.

1302
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,820
If it's the snow-

1303
00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:27,510
Make it right

1304
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:29,910
... it melts the next day, I can restart the clock.

1305
00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:30,120
Mm-hmm.

1306
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:32,101
That's how sensitive the clock is though.

1307
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:36,240
So with the sagging of the floor, it is causing a little binding on the drive

1308
00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:38,971
shaft. So I did some relieving of that.

1309
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:39,420
Yep.

1310
00:51:39,451 --> 00:51:41,971
As the temperatures, we can get back in the end of July, but...

1311
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,300
And we need to get some type of a permanent fix on the sagging floor.

1312
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,110
It's just safety.

1313
00:51:46,110 --> 00:51:47,550
And this will take what, for another 100 years?

1314
00:51:47,610 --> 00:51:49,560
Yeah. Last one was 128 years.

1315
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,101
Right.

1316
00:51:50,490 --> 00:51:51,180
So it was Ron's.

1317
00:51:51,630 --> 00:51:52,740
It was Ron's, yeah.

1318
00:51:52,891 --> 00:51:55,920
Yeah, the pressure piece, I know. So why did it, why'd this happen?

1319
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,490
If I, if I may.

1320
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:56,820
Yes.

1321
00:51:56,851 --> 00:52:00,030
I know we looked into the topic you're talking about with council.

1322
00:52:00,090 --> 00:52:01,891
I can provide you with the opinion from council.

1323
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,800
There were some concerns with council about being on that.

1324
00:52:05,221 --> 00:52:06,451
Register.

1325
00:52:06,481 --> 00:52:06,481
The list.

1326
00:52:06,569 --> 00:52:06,810
Yeah. Yep.

1327
00:52:06,810 --> 00:52:11,339
And that's why it was decided by the school committee, uh, I believe the chair at

1328
00:52:11,370 --> 00:52:13,530
the time, that we probably shouldn't do it.

1329
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,040
So let me, I can send you that opinion, Bob, because it lays out the reasoning why

1330
00:52:17,101 --> 00:52:17,340
it wasn't-

1331
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,701
The museum also had that problem.

1332
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:25,440
Yeah. It also affects our insurance. Yeah, so let me, I'll follow back up with you.

1333
00:52:25,590 --> 00:52:27,120
Okay. I'll bring it back before the commission-

1334
00:52:27,180 --> 00:52:27,210
Yeah

1335
00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:29,310
... just in case you ever wanna come back again with it.

1336
00:52:29,550 --> 00:52:31,620
Right. Exactly. Yeah, let me give you the reasoning so you-

1337
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:32,580
All right.

1338
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,030
Yeah.

1339
00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:34,201
Thanks.

1340
00:52:34,231 --> 00:52:34,951
Yeah. Yes, Ray?

1341
00:52:35,971 --> 00:52:37,440
Raymond Hanks, speaking, Crystal Springs.

1342
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:37,920
No problem.

1343
00:52:38,550 --> 00:52:42,960
Just a question, something that you said, Ray, about you had raised separate funds

1344
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:43,891
for the clock.

1345
00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:46,020
Mm-hmm.

1346
00:52:46,050 --> 00:52:51,481
Um, since the school is a town entity, how was Ray able to raise, uh,

1347
00:52:51,630 --> 00:52:52,590
private funds

1348
00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:54,540
for the clock?

1349
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:58,351
So there, there's an endowed fund, so somebody endowed funds to, for that purpose.

1350
00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:00,030
So endowed funds can be given.

1351
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:00,270
Okay.

1352
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:01,770
Right, somebody can endow to the town-

1353
00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:02,221
Mm-hmm

1354
00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:04,650
... an amount of funds. And we actually have several endowments in town.

1355
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:05,580
I was gonna say, yeah.

1356
00:53:05,820 --> 00:53:07,141
Revolving funds with the clock.

1357
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:09,000
And the revolving. Mm-hmm.

1358
00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:09,330
Yeah.

1359
00:53:09,391 --> 00:53:10,680
You know where I was going with this.

1360
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:10,830
Yeah.

1361
00:53:10,951 --> 00:53:14,790
So if he can raise funds for the clock, so I'll, I'll come back here.

1362
00:53:14,971 --> 00:53:18,721
So fundraising, fundraising is an interesting topic. Town can't fundraise.

1363
00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:19,740
I guess that's true.

1364
00:53:19,740 --> 00:53:20,221
So, uh-

1365
00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:20,490
Right

1366
00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:20,490
...

1367
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:25,981
we can talk about, there are ways of doing it, but you can't, you can't, like the

1368
00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:28,080
town can't openly fundraise for that purpose.

1369
00:53:28,110 --> 00:53:28,830
But endowments-

1370
00:53:28,891 --> 00:53:29,460
Donations.

1371
00:53:29,701 --> 00:53:30,391
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

1372
00:53:30,451 --> 00:53:31,141
Yeah. So, um-

1373
00:53:31,351 --> 00:53:33,360
Unless you're, unless you're a 501 [c] [3] .

1374
00:53:33,451 --> 00:53:33,660
Yeah, correct.

1375
00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:34,981
You've gotta tie it to that.

1376
00:53:35,070 --> 00:53:35,760
So, uh,

1377
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:40,231
you know, I don't know the origins of the clock fund, but I would say there was

1378
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:42,420
probably a way of them doing that on their own.

1379
00:53:42,481 --> 00:53:42,630
Yes.

1380
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,880
I mean, the Police Officers Association.

1381
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:45,030
Yeah.

1382
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:50,520
It was a 501 (3) C. So all the donations went to the, uh, Center School clock fund.

1383
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,451
It was all done-

1384
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:52,800
They have a vehicle for that.

1385
00:53:52,891 --> 00:53:52,981
Yeah.

1386
00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:55,620
And the Mattapoisett, and for Mattapoisett Police, yeah, it was all-

1387
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,060
Yeah, so that had to be the whole thing.

1388
00:53:57,150 --> 00:54:00,060
Or it's, or it's an endowed funding where somebody gave money.

1389
00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:05,430
Would, would there be any opposition by the board if I began to pursue us becoming

1390
00:54:05,490 --> 00:54:09,120
a 501 [c] [3] ?

1391
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:09,330
Who?

1392
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:10,110
Who?

1393
00:54:10,110 --> 00:54:10,201
Huh?

1394
00:54:10,471 --> 00:54:10,680
Who?

1395
00:54:10,981 --> 00:54:11,940
Cemetery committee.

1396
00:54:11,971 --> 00:54:12,601
The committee can't.

1397
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:13,830
The committee can't.

1398
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,880
So the committee itself... All right, so let's, if we look at this like the library

1399
00:54:18,330 --> 00:54:21,870
and, um, the COAs, like the Friends of the Council on Aging-

1400
00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:22,020
Right

1401
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:23,160
... is the Friends of the Public Library.

1402
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:25,770
The bike path, the Friends of the Mattapoisett Bike Path.

1403
00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:26,160
Friends of Mattapoisett Museum.

1404
00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:30,510
Right. So anything that usually says friends is usually the 501.

1405
00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:31,020
Yeah.

1406
00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:34,500
The fire department has the, the Fire, Fire's like similar, oh, sorry, the

1407
00:54:34,530 --> 00:54:35,670
Firefighters Association.

1408
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,000
Yeah.

1409
00:54:36,030 --> 00:54:39,391
Which is a 501. The Police Brotherhood is a 501 [c] [3] .

1410
00:54:39,481 --> 00:54:39,780
Yeah.

1411
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:44,340
So the committee itself, the committee itself, if you're gonna form the committee,

1412
00:54:45,391 --> 00:54:47,370
wouldn't be able to just become a 501.

1413
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,510
There would have to be a

1414
00:54:51,391 --> 00:54:51,451
5

1415
00:54:54,888 --> 00:54:56,179
Friends of the cemetery.

1416
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,418
So-

1417
00:54:56,959 --> 00:54:58,128
Friends of that wood cemetery.

1418
00:55:00,108 --> 00:55:01,848
It would be a different title, but actually-

1419
00:55:02,179 --> 00:55:02,179
Right

1420
00:55:02,179 --> 00:55:02,628
... the same thing.

1421
00:55:02,658 --> 00:55:04,489
It's maybe got a formal thing to do with it now.

1422
00:55:04,608 --> 00:55:07,068
Well, there has to be a division between church and state.

1423
00:55:07,128 --> 00:55:07,338
Correct.

1424
00:55:08,329 --> 00:55:08,418
Yep.

1425
00:55:08,449 --> 00:55:08,628
So-

1426
00:55:09,108 --> 00:55:12,768
So Brendan, I'm the secretary of the Friends of the Mattapoisett Library.

1427
00:55:13,008 --> 00:55:13,038
Yes.

1428
00:55:13,098 --> 00:55:17,148
So if you want, offline we can chat, and I can tell you how we set that up.

1429
00:55:17,179 --> 00:55:18,048
Perfect. Okay.

1430
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,848
You just got to keep them separate, that's all.

1431
00:55:19,908 --> 00:55:24,318
Yeah. It's like the Knights of Columbus, you have to have a business end and a

1432
00:55:24,378 --> 00:55:25,248
charitable end.

1433
00:55:25,338 --> 00:55:26,508
Yeah. Yes.

1434
00:55:26,778 --> 00:55:27,199
Similar.

1435
00:55:27,618 --> 00:55:28,398
Yeah, same idea.

1436
00:55:28,489 --> 00:55:30,829
Thank you.

1437
00:55:31,158 --> 00:55:35,868
I have no problem with you using building and grounds money, and if, depending on

1438
00:55:35,929 --> 00:55:39,498
when we get the invoice, we can always just go to put another dollar article.

1439
00:55:39,918 --> 00:55:44,808
Yeah. So we have $35,000 budget, and we spent $600 to date so-

1440
00:55:44,838 --> 00:55:45,318
Oh, awesome

1441
00:55:45,348 --> 00:55:46,429
... we have plenty of money.

1442
00:55:46,548 --> 00:55:46,848
Awesome.

1443
00:55:47,418 --> 00:55:47,628
Again,

1444
00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:50,658
that's an account that gets hit, so just-

1445
00:55:50,989 --> 00:55:51,228
Right

1446
00:55:51,288 --> 00:55:53,898
... we tend to spend the whole thing.

1447
00:55:53,989 --> 00:55:56,568
Just put that on your list of replenishments for that.

1448
00:55:56,989 --> 00:55:57,079
Yep.

1449
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:58,368
So I can vote to proceed.

1450
00:55:59,508 --> 00:56:00,528
As long as they're okay with it.

1451
00:56:00,618 --> 00:56:01,638
Do you want to make a motion?

1452
00:56:01,968 --> 00:56:04,638
Motion to approve the $2,500. Are there any questions?

1453
00:56:04,728 --> 00:56:05,028
Second.

1454
00:56:05,508 --> 00:56:07,638
There's been a motion and a second. All in favor?

1455
00:56:07,968 --> 00:56:08,179
Aye.

1456
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:10,459
Passes unanimously.

1457
00:56:10,518 --> 00:56:12,108
I had questions about the

1458
00:56:13,548 --> 00:56:15,468
housing. Did you mention it?

1459
00:56:15,558 --> 00:56:18,348
Oh, if you want to mention the housing trust. Yeah, sorry.

1460
00:56:18,408 --> 00:56:21,018
Yeah, the housing trust. I want to talk about that.

1461
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:25,968
As Janet forced me to spew out all my crap in front of the draft of the

1462
00:56:26,028 --> 00:56:29,088
Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust, which I gave to Mike.

1463
00:56:30,348 --> 00:56:36,138
My recommendation to you folks would be to, as we stated, certain people that can

1464
00:56:36,168 --> 00:56:40,728
be on this trust committee, I'm not sure exactly what is, how it's made up.

1465
00:56:41,058 --> 00:56:42,408
I think it's seven members.

1466
00:56:42,498 --> 00:56:42,739
Yeah.

1467
00:56:42,798 --> 00:56:47,358
Something like that. But I would recommend advertising people interested in serving

1468
00:56:47,418 --> 00:56:49,459
on the Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust.

1469
00:56:50,028 --> 00:56:54,618
Because what happened in the past there was a Tri-Town housing cooperative, which

1470
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:55,699
folded and we-

1471
00:56:55,998 --> 00:56:56,298
Broke up.

1472
00:56:56,388 --> 00:56:59,688
Yeah. It was like $500 each of the three towns money went back.

1473
00:57:00,498 --> 00:57:04,308
Then we had the Mattapoisett Housing Partnership, and we just kind of fumbled along

1474
00:57:04,368 --> 00:57:06,018
for years and really nothing ever came of it.

1475
00:57:06,918 --> 00:57:10,848
Then we had town meeting approve a Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust.

1476
00:57:11,028 --> 00:57:11,239
Mm-hmm.

1477
00:57:11,298 --> 00:57:13,248
So you have statutorily created it.

1478
00:57:13,608 --> 00:57:13,968
Okay.

1479
00:57:14,209 --> 00:57:14,718
It's now just-

1480
00:57:14,778 --> 00:57:15,199
Been doing nothing

1481
00:57:15,228 --> 00:57:17,148
... forming it, staffing it.

1482
00:57:17,209 --> 00:57:19,218
Did you say it's five members? What did you say?

1483
00:57:19,248 --> 00:57:19,668
It's in there.

1484
00:57:20,179 --> 00:57:22,638
Check with Michael. I got a copy. It's in the office.

1485
00:57:22,668 --> 00:57:22,668
Okay.

1486
00:57:22,699 --> 00:57:27,228
Yeah, it's also- I think it may be seven, but there are specific groups it comes

1487
00:57:27,258 --> 00:57:27,709
from. But I would-

1488
00:57:28,398 --> 00:57:29,568
Oh, okay. Gotcha

1489
00:57:29,718 --> 00:57:30,228
... I would reach out to-

1490
00:57:30,258 --> 00:57:31,008
Minimum five.

1491
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:32,898
I'll check that.

1492
00:57:32,959 --> 00:57:33,199
Seven

1493
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:35,388
... please step forward and submit your letters because-

1494
00:57:35,598 --> 00:57:35,718
Yeah

1495
00:57:35,718 --> 00:57:39,588
... the only way it's going to get off the ground is if people volunteer, and then-

1496
00:57:39,709 --> 00:57:40,128
Right.

1497
00:57:40,368 --> 00:57:40,579
Yep.

1498
00:57:41,358 --> 00:57:44,808
And it's a time-consuming thing. It really is.

1499
00:57:45,138 --> 00:57:45,468
Right.

1500
00:57:45,528 --> 00:57:45,648
Yeah.

1501
00:57:46,248 --> 00:57:46,489
That's-

1502
00:57:47,058 --> 00:57:48,018
And I'm not going to be there.

1503
00:57:48,228 --> 00:57:48,528
Right.

1504
00:57:48,588 --> 00:57:50,209
I've been there, done that, no more.

1505
00:57:50,268 --> 00:57:50,568
Right.

1506
00:57:51,168 --> 00:57:53,478
I already tried to recruit him for it. Didn't go so well.

1507
00:57:53,508 --> 00:57:56,929
Didn't go so well? We can try. Put it out there.

1508
00:57:57,228 --> 00:57:57,918
Janet, would you?

1509
00:57:58,218 --> 00:58:00,018
Oh, yes, she would. You bet.

1510
00:58:00,798 --> 00:58:01,278
That's about it.

1511
00:58:01,788 --> 00:58:01,968
Yeah.

1512
00:58:02,058 --> 00:58:03,438
So thank you for your time.

1513
00:58:03,528 --> 00:58:03,918
Thanks, Rick.

1514
00:58:03,949 --> 00:58:05,718
Thanks. We'll move on the contract and-

1515
00:58:05,898 --> 00:58:06,498
Appreciate it.

1516
00:58:07,248 --> 00:58:08,897
Whatever, anything else you need from us.

1517
00:58:09,227 --> 00:58:11,298
Yeah. We'll find out when Rick has that.

1518
00:58:11,388 --> 00:58:13,908
Hopefully we have some contracts because they'll give us some good bids.

1519
00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:14,838
That'd be great.

1520
00:58:14,868 --> 00:58:16,128
Hold on, Rick.

1521
00:58:16,158 --> 00:58:16,368
Yep.

1522
00:58:16,429 --> 00:58:18,558
Yeah. Well, to this end, and more just a comment,

1523
00:58:20,538 --> 00:58:24,498
we wanted to wait for the workshop that we are scheduling, it sounds like November

1524
00:58:25,158 --> 00:58:25,459
17th-

1525
00:58:25,518 --> 00:58:25,968
Oh, right

1526
00:58:26,568 --> 00:58:29,568
... which is going to be put on by Barrett Consulting.

1527
00:58:30,018 --> 00:58:32,718
We will advertise the heck out of it before it happens.

1528
00:58:33,288 --> 00:58:37,699
But where the town has asked them to come in to put a presentation together on

1529
00:58:38,268 --> 00:58:42,199
setting up the trust, setting up housing initiatives in town, so on and so forth.

1530
00:58:42,228 --> 00:58:46,188
We're going to invite, obviously, other committee members, residents to come in and

1531
00:58:46,218 --> 00:58:51,288
listen. And we've been actively recruiting members for the potential trust or any

1532
00:58:51,378 --> 00:58:53,179
other advisory committees that come up.

1533
00:58:54,048 --> 00:58:56,209
But again, that's going to be advertised as well.

1534
00:58:56,538 --> 00:59:00,949
But we wanted to wait till we have sort of a formal understanding of what the role

1535
00:59:01,008 --> 00:59:03,798
is going to look like, how many board members we're going to have, so on and so

1536
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:07,968
forth, before we go out and publicize the role, so that if people sign up, they

1537
00:59:08,028 --> 00:59:09,228
understand what they're getting into.

1538
00:59:09,648 --> 00:59:09,648
Yeah.

1539
00:59:09,739 --> 00:59:14,478
So we'll pick your brain again before that happens, and others, but just know

1540
00:59:14,508 --> 00:59:19,068
there's going to be a lot out there in the public sphere so people understand what

1541
00:59:19,128 --> 00:59:22,518
the role would entail should they want to participate.

1542
00:59:22,758 --> 00:59:24,048
So just wanted to-

1543
00:59:24,108 --> 00:59:28,368
And one final thing. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Marion has one.

1544
00:59:29,088 --> 00:59:30,709
So many towns, yeah.

1545
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:30,918
Great.

1546
00:59:30,978 --> 00:59:31,398
Pleasure.

1547
00:59:32,658 --> 00:59:33,348
Definitely.

1548
00:59:33,408 --> 00:59:34,368
Take care. Thank you very much.

1549
00:59:34,459 --> 00:59:34,848
Thanks, Rick.

1550
00:59:35,058 --> 00:59:40,489
All right. Well, next is

1551
00:59:40,998 --> 00:59:44,268
improved transparency methods for meeting.

1552
00:59:46,908 --> 00:59:52,158
A bit about meetings and being recorded, and I guess some

1553
00:59:52,218 --> 00:59:56,028
meetings aren't video recorded, they're just

1554
00:59:58,188 --> 01:00:00,558
the notes are taken during a meeting.

1555
01:00:01,489 --> 01:00:03,709
And is there some way we

1556
01:00:05,778 --> 01:00:11,748
can encourage certain committees and boards to try to use the conference room more

1557
01:00:11,838 --> 01:00:17,598
for recording, so people can go on the website and, "I want to watch that meeting,"

1558
01:00:18,168 --> 01:00:19,968
and there it will be?

1559
01:00:21,978 --> 01:00:25,398
If a meeting is recorded in the Zoom,

1560
01:00:27,138 --> 01:00:27,829
like this,

1561
01:00:29,209 --> 01:00:32,508
people can go in and look it up, correct?

1562
01:00:32,628 --> 01:00:33,378
Or is that-

1563
01:00:35,478 --> 01:00:37,308
So understand you have different levels of boards, right?

1564
01:00:37,848 --> 01:00:40,489
Yeah, because you got different elected-

1565
01:00:40,489 --> 01:00:45,079
Some boards that willingly, we could be recorded by Danny, and we post those

1566
01:00:45,108 --> 01:00:49,788
recordings. We have other boards that don't feel that the recording should be

1567
01:00:49,848 --> 01:00:55,248
posted online. Some of those boards, we have the authority on, they're an appointee

1568
01:00:55,308 --> 01:01:00,648
of this board. Some are not. Some boards are, your appointed boards will be not in

1569
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:02,598
this location, and they don't get recorded.

1570
01:01:02,598 --> 01:01:02,688
Right.

1571
01:01:02,748 --> 01:01:06,949
So it's not uniform, which is the reason why this item's on here.

1572
01:01:10,818 --> 01:01:13,668
Right now, currently it's not uniform, I just would tell you that.

1573
01:01:13,968 --> 01:01:14,179
Okay.

1574
01:01:14,209 --> 01:01:16,878
So it depends on what meeting is where.

1575
01:01:17,268 --> 01:01:17,418
Yep.

1576
01:01:18,739 --> 01:01:20,628
Which is part of the problem with recording it.

1577
01:01:21,018 --> 01:01:24,798
I know, like the tree committee meets at the library, they take an owl with them on

1578
01:01:24,858 --> 01:01:25,968
recording for the owl.

1579
01:01:26,027 --> 01:01:26,597
Yep.

1580
01:01:27,318 --> 01:01:28,728
But again, not every committee is the same.

1581
01:01:28,788 --> 01:01:30,949
So I don't know if you want to try to uniform that.

1582
01:01:31,008 --> 01:01:34,668
For the committees that don't post the recordings, I certainly can send a letter to

1583
01:01:34,998 --> 01:01:39,018
some of them. I do say there is one elected board we don't host meetings for.

1584
01:01:39,709 --> 01:01:44,568
Yeah, it's not for that to be done. We could send them communication.

1585
01:01:44,658 --> 01:01:49,338
Again, I can't force them to do it. They're their own elected board, but I can send

1586
01:01:49,398 --> 01:01:52,218
communication that sort of asks them to do it kindly.

1587
01:01:54,108 --> 01:01:57,288
The only other way to do it is if I would have to kind of push a bylaw.

1588
01:01:57,348 --> 01:01:57,648
There's really-

1589
01:01:57,709 --> 01:01:59,598
I was just going to say a policy or something.

1590
01:01:59,929 --> 01:02:00,858
Policy.

1591
01:02:01,308 --> 01:02:04,308
A policy. You have a policy of this room.

1592
01:02:04,398 --> 01:02:04,489
Right.

1593
01:02:04,548 --> 01:02:06,618
You could put a policy for this room, but again-

1594
01:02:06,798 --> 01:02:06,949
Yep

1595
01:02:06,978 --> 01:02:08,628
... you can't tell another elected board what to do.

1596
01:02:08,718 --> 01:02:09,588
Yeah. I wanted to-

1597
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:10,368
Thank you.

1598
01:02:10,459 --> 01:02:11,808
That's exactly, a bylaw.

1599
01:02:11,868 --> 01:02:12,048
Right.

1600
01:02:12,648 --> 01:02:12,648
Mm-hmm.

1601
01:02:12,768 --> 01:02:13,098
Right.

1602
01:02:13,188 --> 01:02:15,588
So when we talked about, I know

1603
01:02:16,788 --> 01:02:19,579
minutes and other things, we talked about posting some of that, and one of the

1604
01:02:19,638 --> 01:02:22,518
other problems obviously, we have some committees that do one thing and other

1605
01:02:22,548 --> 01:02:24,168
committees do other things.

1606
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:24,558
Yeah. Right.

1607
01:02:25,968 --> 01:02:30,108
So just in an effort to try to, I guess, uniform the process-

1608
01:02:30,588 --> 01:02:30,768
Right

1609
01:02:31,038 --> 01:02:31,038
...

1610
01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:35,568
I didn't know how you wanted to approach that, which is part of the reason why the

1611
01:02:35,598 --> 01:02:36,858
agenda item's on here.

1612
01:02:36,918 --> 01:02:37,758
Can I ask a question?

1613
01:02:37,878 --> 01:02:38,568
Yes, please.

1614
01:02:38,929 --> 01:02:44,718
Is it a technical issue that maybe there is an expertise

1615
01:02:45,438 --> 01:02:45,618
gap-

1616
01:02:45,918 --> 01:02:45,978
Yeah

1617
01:02:45,978 --> 01:02:45,978
...

1618
01:02:47,628 --> 01:02:47,688
in how to-

1619
01:02:47,688 --> 01:02:48,918
On how to do it?

1620
01:02:48,978 --> 01:02:50,028
I'm trying to say it nicely.

1621
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:51,138
No, but you're right.

1622
01:02:51,168 --> 01:02:51,558
I know you are.

1623
01:02:52,008 --> 01:02:54,949
You're right, Francis, because sometimes it's a lack of-

1624
01:02:55,699 --> 01:02:56,148
They just don't know

1625
01:02:56,148 --> 01:02:57,498
... the education or training.

1626
01:02:57,739 --> 01:02:58,158
How to do it.

1627
01:03:02,568 --> 01:03:05,748
And some of the other towns that I've worked with, we kind of made it mandatory

1628
01:03:05,808 --> 01:03:10,788
that all boards and committees, whether they were elected or not, they had to go

1629
01:03:10,878 --> 01:03:14,358
through some... And it was open meeting laws and stuff like that.

1630
01:03:14,418 --> 01:03:17,898
It was something we were addressing as a full

1631
01:03:19,518 --> 01:03:24,438
board, or a full town really, to make sure we did have the uniformed,

1632
01:03:25,338 --> 01:03:29,388
everyone understands what open meeting laws are, everyone understand, we brought in

1633
01:03:30,318 --> 01:03:30,739
legal-

1634
01:03:30,798 --> 01:03:31,128
We've done-

1635
01:03:31,128 --> 01:03:32,118
... to talk about that

1636
01:03:32,148 --> 01:03:35,058
... we've done the open meeting law training periodically for a while.

1637
01:03:35,118 --> 01:03:40,068
But here it's more of, I think it's a training on how you conduct a meeting.

1638
01:03:40,398 --> 01:03:46,158
No offense, but making sure that, and I'm going to pick on you, Lauren, you got to

1639
01:03:46,248 --> 01:03:51,079
know who's running the meeting and who controls that mute.

1640
01:03:51,108 --> 01:03:52,308
Three, or the mute.

1641
01:03:52,368 --> 01:03:54,318
Because we can't-

1642
01:03:55,596 --> 01:03:59,196
And she didn't realize it was not on, and she was talking.

1643
01:03:59,677 --> 01:04:05,016
And she said a comment, and she talked about it, so I kind of know. I get it.

1644
01:04:05,047 --> 01:04:08,047
But herein lies some of the training issues.

1645
01:04:09,906 --> 01:04:15,216
Going into a meeting, every board or committee, whether elected or not appointed,

1646
01:04:15,756 --> 01:04:20,226
they should understand that there are rules and regulations on how you should be

1647
01:04:20,256 --> 01:04:23,466
conducting a meeting. No one should have

1648
01:04:24,846 --> 01:04:25,297
clear

1649
01:04:27,936 --> 01:04:28,596
exposure.

1650
01:04:30,307 --> 01:04:33,516
We should be able to control it as a board or a committee.

1651
01:04:34,057 --> 01:04:37,566
And maybe that's more of the educational piece of it. I'm not sure.

1652
01:04:37,866 --> 01:04:43,775
I think also using technology is sometimes really challenging

1653
01:04:43,837 --> 01:04:44,557
for people.

1654
01:04:44,646 --> 01:04:44,677
It is.

1655
01:04:44,706 --> 01:04:45,096
Right.

1656
01:04:45,156 --> 01:04:49,266
And maybe the first step is letting people know what tools are available, how to

1657
01:04:49,356 --> 01:04:53,406
use them, and allowing them to get used to using it before going live.

1658
01:04:53,587 --> 01:04:53,886
Right.

1659
01:04:54,337 --> 01:04:56,886
Maybe that might help. I'm not saying that is a solution to this problem.

1660
01:04:56,946 --> 01:04:57,456
Sure. Right.

1661
01:04:57,547 --> 01:04:58,326
I'm just saying.

1662
01:04:58,356 --> 01:04:58,476
But-

1663
01:04:59,376 --> 01:04:59,646
Yeah

1664
01:04:59,677 --> 01:05:02,946
... but if it's here, don't they have the built-in support of the-

1665
01:05:03,066 --> 01:05:03,277
Right

1666
01:05:03,456 --> 01:05:07,236
... professional recording? They have the support regardless. Yeah. We have- Right.

1667
01:05:07,716 --> 01:05:09,786
We have the ability- We have the ability to help ... to make it happen.

1668
01:05:09,786 --> 01:05:14,736
I'm saying that would eliminate some of the challenge if there is a professional in

1669
01:05:14,766 --> 01:05:16,356
the other room, right, recording.

1670
01:05:16,476 --> 01:05:18,337
I guess there'd be still some training involved, but-

1671
01:05:18,366 --> 01:05:19,356
Sure.

1672
01:05:19,386 --> 01:05:21,186
But it removes some of the answers.

1673
01:05:21,246 --> 01:05:24,636
Yeah. This room's easier than most because the technology-

1674
01:05:24,846 --> 01:05:24,996
Right

1675
01:05:25,027 --> 01:05:25,326
... is here.

1676
01:05:25,386 --> 01:05:25,596
Right.

1677
01:05:25,686 --> 01:05:29,496
I will say it's not clearly understood by every person who uses this.

1678
01:05:29,496 --> 01:05:29,646
Sure.

1679
01:05:29,677 --> 01:05:33,816
Sure. That is pure honesty. This takes a little bit of training.

1680
01:05:33,876 --> 01:05:34,087
Mm-hmm.

1681
01:05:34,146 --> 01:05:34,986
Sure. Yeah.

1682
01:05:36,936 --> 01:05:39,006
I do think there is, though, there is-

1683
01:05:39,096 --> 01:05:39,876
There's an apprehension.

1684
01:05:40,266 --> 01:05:40,927
Thank you. For-

1685
01:05:41,256 --> 01:05:42,396
That's a better point.

1686
01:05:42,547 --> 01:05:47,076
Yes, it is. Yeah. Which is, again, why this is fun here.

1687
01:05:47,557 --> 01:05:48,096
Yeah. Right.

1688
01:05:48,366 --> 01:05:50,856
And what steps the board wants to take to kind of alleviate-

1689
01:05:51,427 --> 01:05:51,516
Yeah

1690
01:05:51,547 --> 01:05:52,386
... that apprehension.

1691
01:05:52,837 --> 01:05:53,316
Yep.

1692
01:05:53,376 --> 01:05:55,656
Can you be more specific what the apprehension is?

1693
01:05:55,746 --> 01:05:57,277
Is it technological or is it-

1694
01:05:57,307 --> 01:05:58,236
No, I don't think so

1695
01:05:58,266 --> 01:05:59,496
... just, it's somebody-

1696
01:05:59,557 --> 01:06:01,506
Well, it's... Yes.

1697
01:06:01,596 --> 01:06:02,286
Is it both?

1698
01:06:03,066 --> 01:06:04,986
Probably both. Maybe it's both.

1699
01:06:05,047 --> 01:06:06,066
Yeah, probably both.

1700
01:06:06,156 --> 01:06:06,936
I have been told.

1701
01:06:08,136 --> 01:06:11,376
When I have asked in the past for some meetings, I'm not going to get into what

1702
01:06:11,436 --> 01:06:15,427
boards they are, "Why can't you record them?" I was told,

1703
01:06:16,656 --> 01:06:19,807
first and foremost, "You can't tell me to." Which to do. I know.

1704
01:06:20,316 --> 01:06:24,486
And secondly, "We have no need. If people want to hear what we have to say, they

1705
01:06:24,516 --> 01:06:25,506
can come sit in the meeting,"

1706
01:06:26,916 --> 01:06:31,686
is what I was told, so. And as an elected official, as an elected board, that is

1707
01:06:31,716 --> 01:06:33,006
their prerogative to do so.

1708
01:06:33,036 --> 01:06:34,057
Yep. Okay.

1709
01:06:34,146 --> 01:06:36,186
Unless there is a bylaw requiring them to.

1710
01:06:36,246 --> 01:06:38,856
You got it. Unless there's a bylaw requiring.

1711
01:06:38,916 --> 01:06:41,136
But you... Okay. Lauren Rosenfeld Kirwan.

1712
01:06:42,396 --> 01:06:45,816
But people in this last election especially have been throwing around the word

1713
01:06:45,996 --> 01:06:46,506
transparency.

1714
01:06:46,536 --> 01:06:47,766
Exactly. That's what I was saying.

1715
01:06:47,916 --> 01:06:50,797
But then they're not the ones doing it.

1716
01:06:51,696 --> 01:06:57,246
And so it just seems to me like, okay, I'm now on the MVP 2.0

1717
01:06:57,307 --> 01:07:02,196
committee. I've been trying to go and watch meetings just so that I can educate

1718
01:07:02,226 --> 01:07:07,177
myself. If I need to talk to somebody, who has this expertise that I could go and

1719
01:07:07,236 --> 01:07:10,896
ask a question to? I just found out school committee, you had to go through the

1720
01:07:10,955 --> 01:07:15,396
school website. I had no idea because I was looking for the school committee.

1721
01:07:16,566 --> 01:07:19,716
But I don't know. I just want to learn stuff.

1722
01:07:19,837 --> 01:07:20,136
Mm-hmm.

1723
01:07:20,166 --> 01:07:22,777
But I can't learn it if they're not putting it out there to me.

1724
01:07:22,866 --> 01:07:22,866
Accessible.

1725
01:07:22,866 --> 01:07:26,286
And I don't always have the time because I wanted to watch one meeting and then

1726
01:07:26,346 --> 01:07:30,456
watch another meeting. Well, the first meeting went too long, so I didn't get to

1727
01:07:30,516 --> 01:07:31,446
watch the second meeting.

1728
01:07:31,446 --> 01:07:31,476
Right.

1729
01:07:31,506 --> 01:07:34,416
Whereas I could've gotten off and got on the other one,

1730
01:07:35,766 --> 01:07:36,246
knowing.

1731
01:07:38,316 --> 01:07:43,746
The reality of it is, if it is an appointed board or commission, or committee, this

1732
01:07:43,837 --> 01:07:49,446
board can by a vote for policy and process require that-

1733
01:07:49,506 --> 01:07:50,436
If it's an appointed board, yes

1734
01:07:50,436 --> 01:07:55,236
... if it is an appointed board, we can require transparency through recording and

1735
01:07:55,297 --> 01:07:56,136
rebroadcast.

1736
01:07:56,557 --> 01:07:56,587
Right.

1737
01:07:56,677 --> 01:07:57,756
If it's an elected board-

1738
01:08:00,036 --> 01:08:00,576
You have the bylaw

1739
01:08:00,576 --> 01:08:02,466
... it's up to the board. By law.

1740
01:08:04,506 --> 01:08:05,527
You have to do it.

1741
01:08:05,527 --> 01:08:06,606
But if you're elected-

1742
01:08:07,087 --> 01:08:08,766
There's checks and balances in government, right?

1743
01:08:08,826 --> 01:08:12,427
It's just like Supreme Court, executive office, legislative office.

1744
01:08:12,456 --> 01:08:12,547
Right.

1745
01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:14,256
Executive office can't tell the legislator.

1746
01:08:14,706 --> 01:08:16,177
Here, there are separate-

1747
01:08:16,266 --> 01:08:16,416
That's right

1748
01:08:16,416 --> 01:08:20,496
... elected boards that have specific powers outside of the select board.

1749
01:08:20,526 --> 01:08:23,316
The select board is the executive office, but they have certain powers.

1750
01:08:23,616 --> 01:08:25,776
They can't tell another elected board what to do.

1751
01:08:25,807 --> 01:08:25,807
Right.

1752
01:08:25,837 --> 01:08:27,276
They are separate from-

1753
01:08:27,726 --> 01:08:31,236
Good. So, you guys couldn't tell the library that they have to-

1754
01:08:31,416 --> 01:08:31,927
Right. Correct

1755
01:08:31,956 --> 01:08:33,936
... do this, but you could tell the COA.

1756
01:08:34,026 --> 01:08:34,177
Yep.

1757
01:08:34,387 --> 01:08:34,716
Correct.

1758
01:08:35,016 --> 01:08:35,766
Okay. Good point.

1759
01:08:35,856 --> 01:08:38,406
So how do we go about suggesting it-

1760
01:08:39,006 --> 01:08:39,516
To the elected-

1761
01:08:39,576 --> 01:08:42,726
... to that board, meeting and ask them to put it on, and-

1762
01:08:42,756 --> 01:08:46,446
That's hence the question. If the board would like me to send a strongly worded

1763
01:08:46,476 --> 01:08:48,486
letter, I can send a strongly worded letter and-

1764
01:08:48,547 --> 01:08:50,196
And see where it goes from there

1765
01:08:50,346 --> 01:08:54,427
... the only option to force it would be via town bylaw.

1766
01:08:54,516 --> 01:08:54,726
A bylaw.

1767
01:08:54,786 --> 01:08:59,766
Which again, before you go that route, there's training and other things we need to

1768
01:08:59,797 --> 01:09:04,536
consider in how we're going to set that up, because we also have to schedule

1769
01:09:04,596 --> 01:09:07,236
meetings so they could be in an area where it could be recording everything.

1770
01:09:07,326 --> 01:09:09,576
Or they could take me out, and they could do it wherever they want.

1771
01:09:09,606 --> 01:09:09,606
Right.

1772
01:09:09,666 --> 01:09:11,226
Yeah. There is going to be-

1773
01:09:11,286 --> 01:09:13,746
But there's going to be some type of training and education.

1774
01:09:13,837 --> 01:09:15,216
Yeah. We'll have to think that out a bit.

1775
01:09:15,216 --> 01:09:16,506
Well, let me back up for a second.

1776
01:09:16,536 --> 01:09:17,256
Yeah. No.

1777
01:09:17,766 --> 01:09:21,516
If we think they need training so that we can record what they're saying, then we

1778
01:09:21,547 --> 01:09:24,096
should be worried about whether they have the training to run a meeting properly

1779
01:09:24,756 --> 01:09:28,116
and conduct business following the open meeting law.

1780
01:09:28,177 --> 01:09:31,596
So don't have to be on Zoom. There's no requirement. No, I hear that. I know that.

1781
01:09:31,626 --> 01:09:33,516
I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.

1782
01:09:33,576 --> 01:09:33,876
Yeah.

1783
01:09:33,966 --> 01:09:35,557
Using these things are not easy.

1784
01:09:35,616 --> 01:09:35,856
Yeah.

1785
01:09:37,566 --> 01:09:41,346
I understand that, but if there's the training piece of the technology, but there's

1786
01:09:41,557 --> 01:09:44,106
a training piece for running an open meeting. Sure. Yeah.

1787
01:09:45,036 --> 01:09:47,196
Yeah. Yes, and I would like to separate the two.

1788
01:09:47,226 --> 01:09:47,316
That's why I meant.

1789
01:09:47,316 --> 01:09:47,976
Got you. Understood.

1790
01:09:48,006 --> 01:09:48,456
Separate them.

1791
01:09:48,486 --> 01:09:51,756
Yeah, I think you should separate the technological piece.

1792
01:09:51,876 --> 01:09:52,476
Oh, that's fine.

1793
01:09:52,536 --> 01:09:52,686
Yeah.

1794
01:09:53,346 --> 01:09:53,706
Mm-hmm.

1795
01:09:55,416 --> 01:09:56,976
That's fine, but we just need to make sure.

1796
01:09:57,006 --> 01:09:58,897
But there's also an open meeting-

1797
01:09:59,136 --> 01:09:59,647
100%

1798
01:09:59,706 --> 01:10:00,666
... piece of it that-

1799
01:10:00,726 --> 01:10:01,176
That you have to abide

1800
01:10:01,206 --> 01:10:01,926
... ties into it.

1801
01:10:01,986 --> 01:10:02,256
Be quiet

1802
01:10:02,647 --> 01:10:04,746
And again, but it's no different than us running.

1803
01:10:04,836 --> 01:10:08,886
If we turned off all the cameras in the Zoom, and we went back to just us in the

1804
01:10:08,946 --> 01:10:09,156
room-

1805
01:10:09,516 --> 01:10:09,726
Right.

1806
01:10:09,816 --> 01:10:12,996
Yeah ... we'd still have to abide by all- Open meeting ... that stuff.

1807
01:10:13,057 --> 01:10:14,616
The only difference is the cameras are running.

1808
01:10:14,647 --> 01:10:14,886
Mm-hmm.

1809
01:10:14,946 --> 01:10:15,307
Right.

1810
01:10:15,366 --> 01:10:15,636
Yes.

1811
01:10:16,296 --> 01:10:18,456
Nothing changes other than the technology.

1812
01:10:18,546 --> 01:10:18,816
Right.

1813
01:10:18,936 --> 01:10:19,147
So.

1814
01:10:19,686 --> 01:10:25,326
So I guess because the way I look at it is that I have to trust that board that

1815
01:10:25,355 --> 01:10:27,006
they're actually doing the notes correctly.

1816
01:10:27,695 --> 01:10:33,216
Mm-hmm. If you do not feel that they are not doing it, you can submit an open

1817
01:10:33,276 --> 01:10:36,846
meeting law violation. I've experienced some of those-

1818
01:10:36,996 --> 01:10:37,147
Yep

1819
01:10:37,236 --> 01:10:37,986
... in my time.

1820
01:10:38,106 --> 01:10:38,616
Sure.

1821
01:10:38,736 --> 01:10:39,096
Oh.

1822
01:10:39,156 --> 01:10:41,406
And then the board has to prepare a response to you.

1823
01:10:41,916 --> 01:10:44,647
So those are vehicles that are available to you.

1824
01:10:45,006 --> 01:10:45,996
And I would encourage you-

1825
01:10:46,026 --> 01:10:46,476
Currently, now

1826
01:10:46,536 --> 01:10:47,647
... yes, like today.

1827
01:10:48,397 --> 01:10:48,397
Yeah.

1828
01:10:48,486 --> 01:10:54,126
I would encourage you to reach out to your electeds for the boards that you need

1829
01:10:54,156 --> 01:10:57,397
information for, and hopefully your electeds can answer that question.

1830
01:10:57,456 --> 01:11:01,716
If they can't, then the next step would be submitting an open meeting law.

1831
01:11:01,716 --> 01:11:01,897
The law.

1832
01:11:01,986 --> 01:11:02,826
Yeah. Violation.

1833
01:11:02,916 --> 01:11:03,307
Exactly.

1834
01:11:03,816 --> 01:11:07,326
Yep. It's just that these things are not common knowledge, right?

1835
01:11:07,416 --> 01:11:09,216
You don't know that unless you're in the thick of it.

1836
01:11:09,516 --> 01:11:09,636
Right.

1837
01:11:09,816 --> 01:11:12,816
And I understand you're just looking for the information, and you just want to find

1838
01:11:12,846 --> 01:11:13,446
it in one click.

1839
01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:14,436
I just want to find out whatever-

1840
01:11:14,466 --> 01:11:15,276
Yeah. Right

1841
01:11:15,276 --> 01:11:17,346
... this board is doing, but I don't necessarily have the time.

1842
01:11:17,406 --> 01:11:20,586
And I do watch ORCTV and try to-

1843
01:11:21,876 --> 01:11:21,966
Yeah

1844
01:11:21,966 --> 01:11:23,586
... get my info on there, too.

1845
01:11:23,946 --> 01:11:23,946
Mm-hmm.

1846
01:11:23,976 --> 01:11:26,616
But when I go on, you might have to show me how to get to

1847
01:11:28,356 --> 01:11:29,226
watch the videos.

1848
01:11:29,796 --> 01:11:30,066
Yeah. Right.

1849
01:11:30,126 --> 01:11:30,397
Thank you.

1850
01:11:30,966 --> 01:11:31,897
It's not easy.

1851
01:11:31,986 --> 01:11:32,586
No, it isn't.

1852
01:11:32,856 --> 01:11:33,666
Try to watch the select board page.

1853
01:11:33,666 --> 01:11:36,666
There's an easy way. She showed you. Just scroll a little further. Yeah.

1854
01:11:36,726 --> 01:11:37,506
The video, of course.

1855
01:11:37,536 --> 01:11:38,406
But you got to find it.

1856
01:11:38,766 --> 01:11:40,716
I personally think we need

1857
01:11:42,576 --> 01:11:46,296
to probably a regulation or policy from this board- Good to know ...

1858
01:11:46,296 --> 01:11:46,866
for all elected.

1859
01:11:47,226 --> 01:11:48,216
Mm-hmm.

1860
01:11:48,276 --> 01:11:48,516
Agreed.

1861
01:11:48,576 --> 01:11:50,466
Oh, for sure. I think we need to get our stuff straight.

1862
01:11:50,647 --> 01:11:50,916
Yeah.

1863
01:11:51,366 --> 01:11:52,746
Yeah.

1864
01:11:52,746 --> 01:11:54,636
We can. Like for our own sake. Lead by example.

1865
01:11:54,876 --> 01:11:55,057
Right.

1866
01:11:55,356 --> 01:11:56,316
Yeah.

1867
01:11:56,557 --> 01:11:56,557
Yeah.

1868
01:11:56,976 --> 01:11:57,126
Yeah.

1869
01:11:57,186 --> 01:11:59,136
That's right. What about on policy? Yeah.

1870
01:11:59,796 --> 01:12:00,756
We can discuss that.

1871
01:12:01,057 --> 01:12:03,006
Let's just finish the board discussion.

1872
01:12:03,126 --> 01:12:04,266
Oh, okay. Sorry, Brian.

1873
01:12:04,296 --> 01:12:05,976
Hopefully we'll get to yours as well.

1874
01:12:06,366 --> 01:12:11,046
So yeah, I think if we can get our house in order and get a policy, I think the

1875
01:12:11,106 --> 01:12:14,316
easiest thing would be just asking if they have a boilerplate. Sure.

1876
01:12:14,376 --> 01:12:16,236
Because this is not something that the other three-

1877
01:12:16,356 --> 01:12:17,496
Ask. Yeah. It's-

1878
01:12:17,557 --> 01:12:18,576
We're 351 of-

1879
01:12:18,996 --> 01:12:19,147
Yeah.

1880
01:12:19,686 --> 01:12:20,796
Right ... 51, I'm sure.

1881
01:12:21,216 --> 01:12:22,866
Yeah. There's got to be some out there.

1882
01:12:23,706 --> 01:12:25,416
We can get that. Absolutely.

1883
01:12:25,476 --> 01:12:28,206
Can I also recommend, though, that we ask them what they need?

1884
01:12:29,616 --> 01:12:31,086
In other words, this is our request.

1885
01:12:32,256 --> 01:12:32,436
Yeah.

1886
01:12:32,526 --> 01:12:32,616
Yeah.

1887
01:12:32,647 --> 01:12:36,096
What do you need to be able to do this to get access to this room?

1888
01:12:36,186 --> 01:12:38,826
Right. In order to comply, what are the tools they're going to need? Right.

1889
01:12:40,147 --> 01:12:40,506
Yes.

1890
01:12:40,566 --> 01:12:42,756
Yep. Right. And there's not a ton. There's a handful of recording-

1891
01:12:42,876 --> 01:12:45,546
Well, I think it's going to be meeting availability.

1892
01:12:45,726 --> 01:12:45,756
Yes.

1893
01:12:45,786 --> 01:12:48,576
Yeah, room availability. I think that's going to be the key.

1894
01:12:48,906 --> 01:12:49,057
Well-

1895
01:12:49,506 --> 01:12:54,726
We're already looking at space needs as it is, so I think therein lies some of the

1896
01:12:54,756 --> 01:12:55,626
restrictions.

1897
01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:59,196
There is. We do have portable technology that can also be used.

1898
01:12:59,406 --> 01:12:59,406
Yep.

1899
01:12:59,526 --> 01:12:59,826
Yeah.

1900
01:12:59,826 --> 01:12:59,826
Yep.

1901
01:12:59,886 --> 01:13:00,846
So we're taking advantage of it.

1902
01:13:00,936 --> 01:13:01,866
Yes, absolutely.

1903
01:13:01,926 --> 01:13:03,336
But we only be taking advantage of it.

1904
01:13:03,366 --> 01:13:03,456
Yep.

1905
01:13:03,516 --> 01:13:03,666
So

1906
01:13:05,046 --> 01:13:07,476
if we find ourselves in a situation where we need more-

1907
01:13:07,807 --> 01:13:07,807
Right

1908
01:13:07,807 --> 01:13:10,206
... where we have to deal with availability, that's better than-

1909
01:13:11,154 --> 01:13:11,514
I agree.

1910
01:13:11,574 --> 01:13:12,834
Trying to figure out what the heck everybody's doing.

1911
01:13:12,894 --> 01:13:14,514
Right. I know. Yep.

1912
01:13:14,544 --> 01:13:15,774
Sorry, I just want to finish this.

1913
01:13:15,864 --> 01:13:16,254
No, no.

1914
01:13:16,314 --> 01:13:18,624
Yeah. It'll help the town to run better.

1915
01:13:18,834 --> 01:13:19,014
Yep.

1916
01:13:19,614 --> 01:13:23,245
And Frank's kind of moved into exactly what I was going to say.

1917
01:13:23,304 --> 01:13:28,164
Just as a cautionary, you don't want to take some of the boards that have

1918
01:13:28,194 --> 01:13:31,194
volunteers and just kind of

1919
01:13:32,514 --> 01:13:34,374
annoy them to the point that they say-

1920
01:13:34,524 --> 01:13:35,484
Sure. Yep

1921
01:13:35,484 --> 01:13:38,724
... "I'm just going to leave the board." I mean, I don't have any problem at all

1922
01:13:39,474 --> 01:13:42,954
doing a Zoom meeting or anything like that.

1923
01:13:43,495 --> 01:13:45,294
But some other people might be reluctant.

1924
01:13:45,864 --> 01:13:51,714
So I think the process, exactly as you said, Joanne, should be just to find out

1925
01:13:51,745 --> 01:13:56,245
what they need, kind of do a needs thing initially, and see where you can go from

1926
01:13:56,304 --> 01:13:56,544
there.

1927
01:13:56,604 --> 01:13:56,874
Yep.

1928
01:13:56,934 --> 01:13:57,624
Yep.

1929
01:13:57,684 --> 01:13:59,604
We can make it as easy as possible.

1930
01:13:59,664 --> 01:14:01,884
Yeah, because if you come on Gang Busters, you know what's going to happen.

1931
01:14:01,944 --> 01:14:02,304
Right, exactly.

1932
01:14:02,334 --> 01:14:05,814
Well, no, we can make it as easy as possible just to, you can do it recording

1933
01:14:05,844 --> 01:14:07,194
through Zoom. That's the easiest way to do it.

1934
01:14:07,254 --> 01:14:11,004
That's good. I didn't realize that there were portable-

1935
01:14:12,024 --> 01:14:12,924
The owls will watch. Yep

1936
01:14:12,924 --> 01:14:12,984
... portable ones.

1937
01:14:12,984 --> 01:14:14,245
We've used it several times.

1938
01:14:14,544 --> 01:14:15,654
Okay. At special fires?

1939
01:14:15,954 --> 01:14:16,074
No.

1940
01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:17,964
Okay. Way back.

1941
01:14:18,054 --> 01:14:19,464
Way back to COVID times.

1942
01:14:19,495 --> 01:14:20,754
We could utilize that.

1943
01:14:20,814 --> 01:14:21,714
I was going to say, that's a-

1944
01:14:21,864 --> 01:14:23,245
For the presentation.

1945
01:14:23,304 --> 01:14:23,304
Yeah.

1946
01:14:23,364 --> 01:14:27,384
We could utilize it over there. Good to know. And other people may not know that.

1947
01:14:27,444 --> 01:14:28,614
Yeah. And the other thing is,

1948
01:14:31,644 --> 01:14:37,404
if you have a board of five, as long as you have a quorum present in person, if you

1949
01:14:37,464 --> 01:14:41,214
have somebody that wants to dial in, they can't make the meeting otherwise, but

1950
01:14:41,274 --> 01:14:44,484
let's just say, for example, Bob's on

1951
01:14:45,774 --> 01:14:49,374
vacation with Dottie out in Western Mass. or something, right? Or up in Maine.

1952
01:14:50,304 --> 01:14:54,384
He could dial into your meeting. As long as you have a quorum present and in

1953
01:14:54,474 --> 01:14:59,394
person, that's what allows the board. It doesn't have to be live and in person.

1954
01:14:59,664 --> 01:15:00,684
Nope. You need a quorum.

1955
01:15:00,745 --> 01:15:04,044
I thought we had to have people. Well, I stand corrected. I'm wrong.

1956
01:15:04,074 --> 01:15:04,464
You can just have-

1957
01:15:04,495 --> 01:15:05,364
Nope. You can have-

1958
01:15:05,964 --> 01:15:06,745
I thought we had to-

1959
01:15:07,164 --> 01:15:09,234
No. They've been talking about changing it.

1960
01:15:09,234 --> 01:15:11,934
Oh, so that's even better. They've been talking about changes.

1961
01:15:11,964 --> 01:15:12,894
They're talking about changing it.

1962
01:15:12,924 --> 01:15:16,194
But COVID rules still apply to the other- Oh, then you could do your whole meeting

1963
01:15:16,254 --> 01:15:18,294
remote then. Nope. And you wouldn't have to go somewhere.

1964
01:15:18,324 --> 01:15:19,554
You could do it from your computers.

1965
01:15:19,644 --> 01:15:19,644
No.

1966
01:15:19,674 --> 01:15:21,504
No, I could. I'm checking with the town clerk.

1967
01:15:22,074 --> 01:15:23,334
Well, yeah. Zoom, yes.

1968
01:15:23,514 --> 01:15:24,774
It's on the clerk.

1969
01:15:24,834 --> 01:15:27,144
For me, I'm just looking for the-

1970
01:15:27,204 --> 01:15:30,864
Right. I was just going to say, you just got to make sure it's an open meeting

1971
01:15:30,984 --> 01:15:31,404
Zoom.

1972
01:15:32,304 --> 01:15:34,434
No, we don't have to. We can hold whatever.

1973
01:15:34,434 --> 01:15:36,504
Oh, whatever. It's in the rules.

1974
01:15:36,564 --> 01:15:38,035
There were discussions about making that-

1975
01:15:38,094 --> 01:15:39,114
I'm fine being wrong, though.

1976
01:15:39,174 --> 01:15:39,294
Yeah.

1977
01:15:40,014 --> 01:15:40,914
That's not an issue.

1978
01:15:40,974 --> 01:15:43,134
Well, there wasn't. There were discussions, but they-

1979
01:15:43,164 --> 01:15:45,864
They're talking about, yeah, they still are talking about it,

1980
01:15:47,094 --> 01:15:50,424
yeah, to get rid of the Zoom. I don't think that'll happen, but they're talking

1981
01:15:50,424 --> 01:15:50,544
about it.

1982
01:15:50,574 --> 01:15:51,504
We could still use

1983
01:15:52,734 --> 01:15:52,824
it.

1984
01:15:52,884 --> 01:15:54,024
That's the only reason why I'm asking.

1985
01:15:54,624 --> 01:15:57,654
All I want to know is what cemetery he's talking about.

1986
01:15:58,194 --> 01:15:59,544
Oh, historic cemeteries.

1987
01:15:59,814 --> 01:16:01,495
Cemetery and Veterans Advisory Committee.

1988
01:16:02,604 --> 01:16:06,054
There's a particular cemetery in Mattapoisett?

1989
01:16:06,144 --> 01:16:10,194
We manage the two town cemeteries, plus we do the memorial bricks.

1990
01:16:10,194 --> 01:16:10,374
Cushion?

1991
01:16:10,464 --> 01:16:11,394
No, a handle.

1992
01:16:11,454 --> 01:16:12,654
No, that's for my bottle.

1993
01:16:12,745 --> 01:16:13,014
Handle tomorrow.

1994
01:16:13,134 --> 01:16:14,214
Oh, okay.

1995
01:16:14,245 --> 01:16:14,394
Yep.

1996
01:16:15,054 --> 01:16:16,044
Bob's in the cushion.

1997
01:16:18,745 --> 01:16:18,924
That's

1998
01:16:20,424 --> 01:16:20,514
all right.

1999
01:16:20,574 --> 01:16:23,995
I think that's a good start. I think we'll go back with just our own group.

2000
01:16:24,264 --> 01:16:24,624
I think that's a good start to-

2001
01:16:24,745 --> 01:16:24,984
Yeah.

2002
01:16:25,584 --> 01:16:27,684
We could always ask Sergeant Carter.

2003
01:16:27,804 --> 01:16:28,524
You good, Mike?

2004
01:16:28,944 --> 01:16:29,304
Yep. Yep.

2005
01:16:29,574 --> 01:16:29,934
Okay.

2006
01:16:31,044 --> 01:16:34,824
Got to watch your words, I guess.

2007
01:16:34,884 --> 01:16:38,544
Next is the kind of the same board announcements.

2008
01:16:38,814 --> 01:16:39,294
So first,

2009
01:16:40,794 --> 01:16:44,514
I'll be aware that Cooper's Way was supposed to be on this meeting, so I don't know

2010
01:16:44,544 --> 01:16:46,044
if there's anybody here for Cooper's Way.

2011
01:16:46,104 --> 01:16:48,774
I don't know if you want to take comments for that before, because we're going to

2012
01:16:48,774 --> 01:16:50,574
have to redo that hearing on that.

2013
01:16:50,694 --> 01:16:51,114
Right.

2014
01:16:51,174 --> 01:16:53,754
But that's fine. I don't know if there's anybody here for that, though, that wants

2015
01:16:53,754 --> 01:16:53,844
to speak.

2016
01:16:53,904 --> 01:16:56,544
Anybody here from Cooper's Way that wants to speak?

2017
01:16:56,574 --> 01:16:57,144
Anybody on the-

2018
01:16:57,535 --> 01:16:58,285
On Zoom?

2019
01:16:59,694 --> 01:17:00,054
Nope.

2020
01:17:00,264 --> 01:17:03,024
No? Okay. Wait till the 13th.

2021
01:17:03,294 --> 01:17:05,154
Sorry, I just wanted to address that while we're here.

2022
01:17:06,354 --> 01:17:09,654
First, early voting hours, so we approved the election warrant.

2023
01:17:10,104 --> 01:17:15,084
Early voting hours, we'll announce this again, but they start on October 17th.

2024
01:17:17,004 --> 01:17:21,264
That's Saturday. They run till Friday, October 30th.

2025
01:17:23,094 --> 01:17:26,995
But I will re-announce this. We will have this on the town website, just

2026
01:17:27,054 --> 01:17:31,524
essentially middle of October, early voting will start for the November election.

2027
01:17:31,584 --> 01:17:35,035
There's also, people should have gotten Vote by Mail postcard-

2028
01:17:35,154 --> 01:17:35,394
Yes

2029
01:17:35,424 --> 01:17:39,624
... within their mailbox, and they should have gotten the question booklet as well.

2030
01:17:39,714 --> 01:17:42,864
If you haven't received any of those things, please contact the town clerk.

2031
01:17:42,864 --> 01:17:44,785
Reach out to us. Yep.

2032
01:17:44,874 --> 01:17:47,424
Now, I know it seems far away, but it's not that far away.

2033
01:17:47,634 --> 01:17:49,074
No. Comes quick.

2034
01:17:50,304 --> 01:17:50,634
Second,

2035
01:17:52,524 --> 01:17:56,904
I know there's potential for a coastal storm starting Friday into the weekend.

2036
01:17:58,344 --> 01:18:02,334
Just note, the town will provide some updates on this on the website.

2037
01:18:02,364 --> 01:18:07,314
But as of right now, it could bring rain and strong winds,

2038
01:18:08,514 --> 01:18:11,304
and potential coastal conditions, flooding.

2039
01:18:12,204 --> 01:18:17,154
As of right now, it's not a huge concern for Mattapoisett in terms of coastal

2040
01:18:17,214 --> 01:18:21,594
flooding and what not based on wind direction, but it could potentially get worse.

2041
01:18:22,404 --> 01:18:23,964
Just people should check the website.

2042
01:18:24,174 --> 01:18:27,504
We'll have some updates on that moving throughout the week.

2043
01:18:29,844 --> 01:18:33,174
It does look like it'll be windy, so if you have Halloween decorations or stuff,

2044
01:18:33,384 --> 01:18:34,194
you might want to-

2045
01:18:34,224 --> 01:18:35,245
You might want to pull them in.

2046
01:18:35,364 --> 01:18:38,094
Stake them down. Give them to your neighbor.

2047
01:18:40,854 --> 01:18:41,304
Yeah.

2048
01:18:41,334 --> 01:18:43,164
I think that's all we had, right?

2049
01:18:43,254 --> 01:18:44,664
How about the road closure?

2050
01:18:45,054 --> 01:18:46,074
Oh, yep. So

2051
01:18:47,814 --> 01:18:49,794
Water Street culvert has started.

2052
01:18:49,854 --> 01:18:52,524
Worst week to start with a coastal storm coming, but-

2053
01:18:53,214 --> 01:18:53,724
This is great

2054
01:18:53,754 --> 01:18:57,414
... there is a closure, so Water Street will be closed right near the town beach.

2055
01:18:58,194 --> 01:19:02,394
If you have a boat and you have a dinghy over there, you'll be allowed to go down

2056
01:19:02,454 --> 01:19:03,535
North Street and park

2057
01:19:05,334 --> 01:19:07,254
basically to the right side of that parking area.

2058
01:19:12,114 --> 01:19:16,224
If you're going to the beach, which hopefully, we're a little past beach season in

2059
01:19:16,285 --> 01:19:20,334
terms of the weather, but they will let you park in front of the beach house for

2060
01:19:20,364 --> 01:19:23,035
the time being to access the beach.

2061
01:19:24,624 --> 01:19:26,484
There'll be officers out there directing traffic.

2062
01:19:26,544 --> 01:19:30,114
Just understand you're not going to be able to go from Marion Beacon through Water

2063
01:19:30,204 --> 01:19:33,384
Street. You're going to have to detour and come down North Street.

2064
01:19:34,285 --> 01:19:37,374
And then Oakland Street will be starting up in October.

2065
01:19:38,124 --> 01:19:38,304
Mm-hmm.

2066
01:19:38,304 --> 01:19:42,474
So it further creates a detour. The timing of these projects is unfortunate, but

2067
01:19:42,593 --> 01:19:46,794
obviously we're a summer community. Those areas, we try not to touch during summer.

2068
01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:49,495
Oakland Street will be starting in October.

2069
01:19:50,004 --> 01:19:55,044
That road will be closed off except for residents in that area.

2070
01:19:56,904 --> 01:20:00,745
Well, let's just put it this way. Water Street will take up to two months to

2071
01:20:01,434 --> 01:20:05,694
complete that culvert, and Oakland Street will at least take a month, if not more,

2072
01:20:05,754 --> 01:20:09,414
to get that road reconstructed. So I understand there's some detours.

2073
01:20:09,474 --> 01:20:12,564
If you have questions, feel free to reach out to the highway surveyor or myself.

2074
01:20:14,064 --> 01:20:15,384
I hope people will just bear with us.

2075
01:20:15,414 --> 01:20:17,754
They're two kind of important projects that need to get done.

2076
01:20:17,785 --> 01:20:21,474
The Water Street culvert, that culvert's in dire condition, being replaced.

2077
01:20:21,564 --> 01:20:27,504
Obviously, we got a grant to do it. Also, it will be a water quality union being

2078
01:20:27,564 --> 01:20:31,884
installed to help treat some of the water going out into the harbor, so all good

2079
01:20:31,944 --> 01:20:32,544
things there.

2080
01:20:34,134 --> 01:20:38,544
We talked about CBA. The application for that process is available on October 5th.

2081
01:20:39,324 --> 01:20:41,874
Applications are due on November 6th.

2082
01:20:43,974 --> 01:20:47,214
The information's on the website for that, too, but if you have questions, you can

2083
01:20:47,245 --> 01:20:51,894
call town hall, and I'll direct you to Chuck, and Chuck can fill you in on the CBA

2084
01:20:51,954 --> 01:20:52,434
process.

2085
01:20:57,504 --> 01:20:58,464
I think that's good.

2086
01:21:03,654 --> 01:21:07,764
I don't know if you want me to mention, I could put that up there on town website.

2087
01:21:07,764 --> 01:21:11,245
I don't know if you want to mention your meeting hours.

2088
01:21:11,574 --> 01:21:14,844
Oh, yes. I don't have it. I have to look at it.

2089
01:21:18,864 --> 01:21:23,304
Scheduled some office hours. The first two sessions have been scheduled.

2090
01:21:23,904 --> 01:21:28,404
They'll be at the Mattapoisett Library, the public library.

2091
01:21:29,754 --> 01:21:34,104
They're going to be publicized further, but just to say them aloud,

2092
01:21:35,304 --> 01:21:41,245
one will be October 7th from 10:00 to noon, and one will be

2093
01:21:41,334 --> 01:21:46,404
October 22nd from 10:00 to noon. So those are the first two, and as they're set up.

2094
01:21:46,944 --> 01:21:49,404
What are you looking to accomplish at these meetings?

2095
01:21:49,914 --> 01:21:54,714
If anyone has some concerns or ideas for us and can't make a meeting,

2096
01:21:56,334 --> 01:22:01,704
doesn't have my email address or phone number, just prefers to stop

2097
01:22:01,794 --> 01:22:04,344
in in person, then they're just

2098
01:22:05,574 --> 01:22:10,584
there for anyone and for any matter that anybody might like to discuss.

2099
01:22:10,614 --> 01:22:12,894
So yeah, I'm excited.

2100
01:22:17,658 --> 01:22:20,928
I want to say something about the Fathers of the Revolution.

2101
01:22:21,438 --> 01:22:21,828
Oh, yeah.

2102
01:22:22,098 --> 01:22:22,908
If I could real quick.

2103
01:22:22,968 --> 01:22:23,148
Yeah.

2104
01:22:24,468 --> 01:22:24,558
Yeah.

2105
01:22:24,588 --> 01:22:24,588
Yeah.

2106
01:22:24,618 --> 01:22:28,188
Attended the celebration at the Hammond Cemetery

2107
01:22:29,597 --> 01:22:34,488
on Saturday, and I have to say, I was super proud of the work that you did, Ray,

2108
01:22:34,578 --> 01:22:36,588
and I hope that you're very, very proud.

2109
01:22:36,828 --> 01:22:38,388
It's a team effort. It's a team effort.

2110
01:22:38,718 --> 01:22:39,018
It was.

2111
01:22:39,228 --> 01:22:39,618
We have a great board.

2112
01:22:39,799 --> 01:22:40,188
It was.

2113
01:22:40,188 --> 01:22:40,338
Nice.

2114
01:22:40,368 --> 01:22:44,268
But it was impossible to walk through the town hall for months without bumping into

2115
01:22:44,328 --> 01:22:44,508
you.

2116
01:22:46,008 --> 01:22:49,459
And, I know you worked really hard to get everything done.

2117
01:22:49,488 --> 01:22:50,028
That's all right.

2118
01:22:50,088 --> 01:22:54,078
Bob, I know you were a big part of that as well, so thank you, and anyone else who

2119
01:22:54,168 --> 01:22:59,658
attended. I was just, like I said, proud to be, a Mattapoisettan that day, and

2120
01:23:01,098 --> 01:23:06,978
Keating came, Mark Silvia came, Representative Silvia, and it was a

2121
01:23:07,038 --> 01:23:12,678
great event. And if you haven't been, I have to say, I've not

2122
01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:18,318
historically been a visitor of cemeteries for pleasure, but I have to say,

2123
01:23:18,738 --> 01:23:23,238
the stones that have been refurbished, those stones could be your

2124
01:23:24,138 --> 01:23:29,778
countertops of marble. It's just stunning, the work that has been done to refurbish

2125
01:23:29,838 --> 01:23:35,688
those stones. Some people I talked to had no idea that we had Revolutionary

2126
01:23:35,778 --> 01:23:41,478
War soldiers buried in town. So I thought that was a great history lesson

2127
01:23:41,988 --> 01:23:45,768
as well. So I just wanted to say a public thank you for what you did, and it was

2128
01:23:46,428 --> 01:23:47,118
exceptional.

2129
01:23:47,418 --> 01:23:47,628
Okay.

2130
01:23:47,838 --> 01:23:53,299
That leads into what I was going to say, is I just wanted to thank everybody for

2131
01:23:53,358 --> 01:23:55,968
all their help with this. It was a phenomenal event.

2132
01:23:56,568 --> 01:23:58,638
Mm-hmm.

2133
01:23:58,668 --> 01:24:01,728
And I'd just like to thank Sarah Landry from the Council on Aging.

2134
01:24:02,328 --> 01:24:05,628
She coordinated tremendously between the housing authority

2135
01:24:07,098 --> 01:24:11,628
and any of the seniors in town. I wanted to make sure that everybody was included

2136
01:24:11,658 --> 01:24:15,678
in it, and Sarah made sure that they had vans.

2137
01:24:15,948 --> 01:24:19,908
They stopped by the housing authority. They picked people up over there.

2138
01:24:20,299 --> 01:24:24,049
We had a bus over at Old Havens Hammon Top School, so there was continuous

2139
01:24:24,108 --> 01:24:28,068
rotation. We didn't have a lot of traffic congestion over there, and the

2140
01:24:29,568 --> 01:24:32,748
event just went phenomenal. And-

2141
01:24:33,408 --> 01:24:33,858
That's great.

2142
01:24:33,918 --> 01:24:36,258
We actually have the

2143
01:24:38,148 --> 01:24:43,068
video from ORI Cable TV, came out today. I sent it to Katie.

2144
01:24:43,338 --> 01:24:44,028
Hopefully, she can-

2145
01:24:44,118 --> 01:24:44,388
Perfect

2146
01:24:44,418 --> 01:24:46,338
... she can load it up on the town website.

2147
01:24:46,788 --> 01:24:50,959
I also was talking to Mike about maybe we can put a little something up here at the

2148
01:24:51,018 --> 01:24:56,148
town hall. And I can get my laptop here and just put it on a loop, and any of the

2149
01:24:56,209 --> 01:24:57,888
people that we have.

2150
01:24:59,209 --> 01:25:03,318
There's a flag that Bill Keating gave us that had been flown in the Capitol for the

2151
01:25:03,709 --> 01:25:09,468
250th, so we have that. We have citations or testimonials from

2152
01:25:10,218 --> 01:25:13,549
the governor, from Bill Keating, and also from-

2153
01:25:14,718 --> 01:25:15,078
The house

2154
01:25:15,138 --> 01:25:20,688
... Mark Silvia in the house. So he has those being framed,

2155
01:25:21,168 --> 01:25:26,418
and we talked about also, he's talking about putting up some type of case along the

2156
01:25:26,478 --> 01:25:31,908
wall, and that alcove as we come in, so we can take a lot of the things that we

2157
01:25:31,967 --> 01:25:36,228
have here in town and put them out so people know what we have.

2158
01:25:36,648 --> 01:25:37,398
Nice.

2159
01:25:37,518 --> 01:25:41,328
I counted about 135 people, but I think I missed some, because that was-

2160
01:25:41,658 --> 01:25:43,908
Yeah, we did like 150.

2161
01:25:44,028 --> 01:25:44,598
Yeah, that's great.

2162
01:25:44,598 --> 01:25:47,238
We figured, we arranged it by chairs,

2163
01:25:49,578 --> 01:25:52,368
under the tent so we would know how many people we had.

2164
01:25:52,788 --> 01:25:57,588
And PSYO did, Sons of the American Revolution, did a phenomenal job over there

2165
01:25:57,678 --> 01:25:58,038
also.

2166
01:25:58,158 --> 01:25:58,308
Great.

2167
01:25:58,368 --> 01:26:04,248
We haven't put the plaque back up. We're kind of holding off, waiting to put it in

2168
01:26:04,308 --> 01:26:10,098
a more permanent position. But we wanted to visually have it in line so that people

2169
01:26:10,158 --> 01:26:12,108
could enjoy it during the summer.

2170
01:26:12,198 --> 01:26:13,938
Yeah. Well, thank you again.

2171
01:26:13,998 --> 01:26:14,508
Thank you.

2172
01:26:17,299 --> 01:26:18,648
Okay, motion to adjourn.

2173
01:26:19,038 --> 01:26:19,788
Motion to adjourn.

2174
01:26:20,058 --> 01:26:21,408
Oh, wait. Sorry.

2175
01:26:21,678 --> 01:26:21,799
Sorry.

2176
01:26:21,888 --> 01:26:24,558
Press. Any questions?

2177
01:26:26,178 --> 01:26:27,348
Anybody on Zoom?

2178
01:26:31,398 --> 01:26:31,518
Jean.

2179
01:26:31,578 --> 01:26:33,108
She's doing something. Nope, all good.

2180
01:26:33,108 --> 01:26:33,828
She's good.

2181
01:26:33,918 --> 01:26:35,268
Okay. Good.

2182
01:26:35,328 --> 01:26:36,078
Motion to adjourn.

2183
01:26:36,138 --> 01:26:39,228
Second. Get a motion and second. All in favor? Aye.

2184
01:26:39,318 --> 01:26:54,288
Aye.

2185
01:26:54,378 --> 01:26:54,648
That's it.