1 00:00:00,399 --> 00:00:12,719 guy you know it's like meeting right yeah Max he's asking a question he's 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,719 look 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:22,920 familiar iwear a call to order the mai city council meeting it's February 3rd 4 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:27,960 6:15 p.m. thank you all for attending tonight and we'll call the RO Miss hary 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:34,120 we have our municipal clerk is absent tonight she's ill so miss hary you're 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:41,000 filling in thank you uh Harris yes Kurt yes line yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes 7 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:47,239 phoh yes fiscus yes and we'll call uh stand for the Pledge of Allegiance 8 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:54,600 please pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to 9 00:00:49,879 --> 00:00:58,430 the rep for it stands one nation God indivisible with liberty and justice for 10 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,520 all [Music] 11 00:01:02,239 --> 00:01:09,680 okay thank you I believe before we start the committee the whole we do have a um 12 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:15,159 a presentation about the sewer inspection process 13 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:22,479 um you going to go down take care of that okay Mr bur will present that to us 14 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,479 mostly because I can't see that 15 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,240 far 16 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,920 didn't it's close to me you 17 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,569 [Music] 18 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:45,240 one there is there is a new flowchart that's been that's been put together so 19 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:52,040 that might be what you're getting passed around the program that done just now 20 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,119 pass around um is up here I'm going to go through it really quickly and then 21 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,399 we're going to go through some other things there's some also um could you 22 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,280 speak into the microphone please Dr bur that's on well the one that's on the 23 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:09,119 yeahum there thank you have a there's a handeld 24 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:13,280 right there do that work um no well I'll talk louder because I can't just stand 25 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:18,440 here because I can't see everything all right um I G to for those who have a 26 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:22,640 queasy stomach you might want to leave the room because I'm going to show you 27 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:28,080 some some what I call the colonos typ promises a long time ago so 28 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,280 people would be able to see what we're up against 29 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:39,519 [Music] right here what you're going to see have 30 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,080 to walk away from here I'm going to give you kind of a 31 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:48,720 sense this the kind of thing that we find in our 32 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:53,560 community that plastic pipe right there has a brand new fiber optic thing that 33 00:02:50,760 --> 00:03:00,680 drilled right through it drilled overnight we also have a water M that 34 00:02:56,920 --> 00:03:05,720 goes through a sanitary manhole this is a structure we found on Broadway 35 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:10,080 that when we going through the pipe the camera came out in a large catacomb type 36 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:14,400 structure that was likely part of the old eie Canal of course it's taking on 37 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:20,640 storm water you see all this right here coming 38 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:25,360 out of here is water coming clean water you see coming out around the base of a 39 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:29,840 manhole in a pipe that's not properly sealed in our sanitary system that's a 40 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:35,959 sanitary manhole that's clean groundwater coming 41 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:39,640 in over here um you'll see that this is the kind of thing that we see in some of 42 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:46,360 our systems I'm sorry if everybody can't see this brick stone and concrete and 43 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,680 this flow here is clean water it's in a sanitary 44 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,400 system this right here is on the County 45 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:02,200 Fairground after it rained this is the sanitary that water 46 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:06,159 is coming off the fairgrounds and the fairgrounds by the way doesn't have 47 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:11,040 anybody there using the sanitary but that's after a 48 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:14,959 rainfall that's an aligned sanary sewer so up in that system on the fairgrounds 49 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:20,199 we're taking a lot of water which is why we have a bit of contention 50 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,759 here we just want to clean the system of Clean 51 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:29,199 Water com back I'm going to show you this video here um you'll notice that 52 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:33,039 this is a a video of a of a pipe like the pl pipe some of you have already 53 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:38,479 seen these in your homes have you seen the the What's Happening Here down 54 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:43,320 further about 49 ft you get to here little SL you see it the pipe is on 55 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:48,080 about 49 ft you see a pipe separation wanted to show you that the city was 56 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:51,960 lining your lateral that what we since we can't line through a separated pipe 57 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:56,000 like that we're going to make sure that we dig down even if it is your private 58 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:00,479 property with permission we're going to fix that section and then line through 59 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:04,080 it give you good sense it it'll stop for 60 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,639 minut it this just root intrusion has be cleaned out line the PIP you won't see 61 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:13,280 those joints anymore because the the system we use will actually uh make it 62 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:19,280 water tyght you know it's that pipe the stuff 63 00:05:16,039 --> 00:05:19,280 that's actually meant to be in that 64 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:28,639 pight that's fine that's it's it's good so you see all these joints on these 65 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:35,199 playay tile are all separated they're not together anymore they've moved over 66 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,199 time here are 42 67 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:41,400 ft make 68 00:05:47,479 --> 00:05:54,039 turn all right what's 69 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:58,759 that Qui camera here all right this is another one we 70 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:03,120 talk about 14 ft you'll notice that you got a it's a lateral going Homeward 71 00:06:00,919 --> 00:06:05,440 toward a Mainline and you can see a cross 72 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,680 connection you'll see it here this is outside the home everybody tells me oh I 73 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:19,479 don't think I have any pipes in my house not you'll see this those are right 74 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:24,400 there see that those are actually footer drains tied into the sanitary sewer 75 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:28,919 outside the foundation of the home it gives you kind of a sense of 76 00:06:26,599 --> 00:06:33,639 what we're we have to dig that up and somehow it's got to be separated with 77 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:39,000 the either outside frock um and we've got next one this is at a 22 ft there's 78 00:06:38,039 --> 00:06:44,720 missing sealant generally cracked this is a 79 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:49,520 point repair so we'll dig down as a point repair like I did the first video 80 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:54,039 you'll notice to see this here here the pipe is cracked we'll dig down repair it 81 00:06:51,599 --> 00:07:02,120 and then we'll line through it next video 57 ft in here um you'll 82 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:07,840 notice that this is not uncommon um this is a not a great sewer um this is likely 83 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:13,039 a complete replacement by the 84 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:17,240 city you see some of these all these are offset which means it's going be hard to 85 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,240 line through 86 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:25,240 them oh yeah these are all different homes every one of these is a different 87 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:36,039 home four five okay yeah no 88 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,039 problem there you got 89 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:47,080 I'm all right but you're pretty soon here you're going to get 90 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:52,479 to um you'll see that this camera isn't pushing getting into a belly of a 91 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,720 [Music] pipe now you're 92 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:05,840 underwater and it gets pretty gross e um so this this pipe is actually going 93 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:09,599 this way it doesn't flow well so that's why there's so many repairs to do it 94 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:13,919 doesn't make sense to start poth hoing and fixing a sewer that's in this case 9 95 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:17,919 and 1 half ft deep we might as well just replace the whole line here we're still 96 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:21,360 underwater but I want to show you something else that you'll 97 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:29,840 see you'll come out eventually sorry be with 98 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:39,240 all right there that's assess we're we're finding a lot of these yeah I 99 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:44,760 don't like to call themess sep but this is a SE tank you see the solid at the 100 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:49,920 bottom that's the outfall this is also taking storm water in in some cases they 101 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:53,880 act as catch basins in yards take surface water so this this has to be 102 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:59,519 removed the city will remove this as well we did find one actually in a 103 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:05,079 garage um which that person going we're going to go around the garage with a new 104 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,079 lateral excuse 105 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:14,079 me this one actually is a PVC Schedule 40 pip and we wanted to show you just to 106 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:19,240 kind of demonstrate how we go up a lateral and how this push camera can 107 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,240 actually turn the 108 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:27,240 corner this one takes a little time I think Nancy started to fall asleep 109 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:41,640 self-preservation I can give a little synopsis 110 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,320 here there we go 111 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,120 you can see a conne your connection different 112 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:25,519 part this is not the schedule um our the 113 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:31,760 H green stuff which is actually white joint see how he trying and turn the 114 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:35,800 corner once he does actually turn in so the push camera he can actually 115 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,079 steer and try to do as best he can to get into but just kind of give you a 116 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:45,839 sense of what we're up against um this actually is on Valley 117 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:48,720 Grove um those are over by the condos that are over off 118 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,839 seven this go and this will take you all the way into the house like I was 119 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:58,920 telling gentlemen back there it actually goes all the way to where the sewer 120 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:05,399 stack comes down into the basement and that's where our lining will 121 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,399 stop then you'll have to have a 122 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:16,240 plumber I don't all right this here this is 10 123 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:22,320 areas in up we're considering this the up there's over a thousand homes in this 124 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:26,760 area they're color coded because every area has a single outlet when it gets to 125 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:32,440 the point when we're done lining and done doing these repairs we'll put flow 126 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:36,480 meters every intersection so we can have a baseline we have a baseline now we'll 127 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:40,360 know exactly what we've actually completed um this is about a fourth of 128 00:11:38,839 --> 00:11:45,720 what we think we need to complete in town these programs we're attempting to 129 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:53,120 do now this is what council approved last week is to have a firm going there 130 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:57,320 because although we hit 703 inspections today 131 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:02,760 um not that they're all done but they've been scheduled they' email Road thing 132 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,480 they're not all going to be in this area right so we have to get a firm in here 133 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:10,480 to come in and do the laterals because in order to do this as speedily as we 134 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:15,199 need to to offset building these large tanks is to start moving on this you're 135 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:18,920 going to have a firm go in there and do all the lateral inspection not inside 136 00:12:17,079 --> 00:12:23,240 the home it means that you haven't had your inspection yet and that person and 137 00:12:21,199 --> 00:12:26,399 this company does that inspection they're going to take points so we'll 138 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:31,199 know be able to map on our ezri system in GIS exactly how deep that sewer is 139 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:35,800 when it makes a Bend if there's a belly it'll all be GIS 140 00:12:33,079 --> 00:12:40,399 map that's what we need on every single lateral to give to a company to bid the 141 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:45,399 lining one they have to be able to line so we're going to basically the only 142 00:12:42,839 --> 00:12:52,880 lining that we have not done up to on a Mainline sewer is right 143 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:59,320 here is here and then there's an area right in here everything else the main 144 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:04,079 lines have been have been lined so um this is 10 areas we may put them just so 145 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,959 you know when we give these quots out and put these out to companies who 146 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:15,360 actually do this work to L and give us that for our information start process 147 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:20,639 forewing we may take two areas and plump them together so maybe it's five 148 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:25,160 packages in terms of the inspection but this is something that we have to do 149 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:30,839 what will happen is that let's say you have 700 homes in here that not had 150 00:13:28,199 --> 00:13:34,560 inspections at all we're going to line through them we're going to actually 151 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:38,320 line the laterals and then if you haven't got your inspection we're out go 152 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:44,760 how when are we out to now Jennifer uh middle of August August and scheduling 153 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:48,880 inspection so what'll happen is we will still do you'll still be needed to 154 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:52,040 actually schedule an inspection for your interior 155 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,560 work that way we'll have that information 156 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:02,639 too this is a flowchart um uh first gave us a flow 157 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:07,160 chart that that all the information it was a good start and then we built it to 158 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:10,600 another chart and then we actually had all staff sit down over the last three 159 00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:14,240 weeks and go through it we would run what if analyses on this thing and see 160 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:18,880 what happens if this happened what direction would you go if this happen so 161 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:23,800 these are colorcoded help you act responsibility the property own is in 162 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:29,399 green so anything you see green is a property responsibility the action 163 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:34,959 responsibility blue is by the city then action steps from a fail inspection is 164 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:38,720 everything you come in here you have a you schedule your inspection we'd like 165 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,000 you to sched Q&A with me if you have an issue if you want to understand how like 166 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,680 this gentleman back here want to know where the where ly to that those 167 00:14:44,839 --> 00:14:51,920 questions can be answered somebody has I've had now 48 meetings as of today 168 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:57,480 with um property owners that have come in and gone through this process um if 169 00:14:54,959 --> 00:15:02,519 no correction is needed obviously get a compliance certificate and we have have 170 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:08,079 those almost ready too but if you need correction follow these other steps so 171 00:15:05,959 --> 00:15:11,759 this on this side of the thing and I I've passed some of these out and this 172 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:17,240 will be posted online tomorrow if you're on this side of the um of the 173 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:21,360 flowchart that talks about the laterals who's responsible this is a little bit 174 00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:25,480 different the PowerPoint that I sent out here a little bit ago that you passed 175 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:29,480 around is is what we had is we used to have anybody over 250% Ami got 100 ft 176 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,800 done there's was 200 ft if if you made over 177 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:38,600 $200,000 a year you're going to put some money in it doesn't make sense to 178 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:43,079 council or us uh our staff to have somebody who's making 179 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:50,639 $30,000 paying for somebody who's making 400 so we didn't change this but we did 180 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:56,519 here once we got to the 200% Mii between those two numbers we went to 300t 181 00:15:52,759 --> 00:16:04,040 lateral that was 200 before when you got down to 150% to 250 200% then we dropped 182 00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:09,880 when went up to 400 ft of lateral and once we got the people were making less 183 00:16:06,839 --> 00:16:16,600 than 100% G me income going all the way up to 450 ft and the reason I I have 184 00:16:13,079 --> 00:16:20,720 this here is I know is that if I go back we went through here on the river we 185 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:23,720 have some homes that have laterals that are longer than 200 ft and we didn't 186 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:28,399 want to leave them out and some of those people that we could tell didn't have 187 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:33,639 incomes as high as somebody who had own a very large house on the river the 188 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:41,160 house right here off of wing lateral goes to Broadway about a 450t 189 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:45,399 lateral is that your house oh wind back in the woods that is your 190 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:51,600 house yeah so you know in case you didn't know your lateral goes to 191 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:55,279 Broadway so um so anyway there are some houses in here that hit that threshold 192 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:59,639 we want to make sure that people that didn't make hundreds of thousands of 193 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:04,640 dollars a year got their laterals if we find something I'm sure Council look 194 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:09,679 into that change those things if we find anybody else that's at a certain income 195 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:17,400 that has lower has less um this one is a payment so to the 196 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:22,720 extent you follow this side which is property owner responsibility the grant 197 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:26,520 loan application Property Owners um we do this we have to get two quotes you'll 198 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:30,440 get a report from us some of you in the room anybody in the room actually have 199 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,600 their report yet okay you do so I show you how many 200 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:38,640 people we don't have to find out 700 seem like a lot until nobody raised 201 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:43,320 their hand so um I know somebody a lot of people up here either signed up or 202 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:48,320 I'm sure people have signed up anyway um the idea here is that we're looking for 203 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:52,919 down spout connections lack of sump pump a sump pump that's connected 204 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:58,000 incorrectly um and some other foter tile connection our switch camera can see a 205 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:02,440 lot of that so what we're doing is once you get down here gr own application 206 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:06,799 once you get a price get quotes you apply for a grant application what we're 207 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:10,360 seeing is inside fixes are range between 55 to 208 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:14,039 $7,000 um there might be some in particular be higher than that but we 209 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:18,559 don't put a limit on what we will fund if you're again you look at that 210 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:23,120 PowerPoint you'll notice that if you're making less than $198,000 a year and you 211 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,000 schedule the first year and you sign a commitment document in that first year 212 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,720 if to do it even if you're waiting till 2027 to do it that you'll be guaranteed 213 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:37,280 the funding that you would have been a to before in 2025 which in that case is 214 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:44,600 a 100% Grant there's no loan what happens is when you when 215 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:49,280 somebody gets down here and they realize that they want to wait till 2027 they 216 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:53,880 don't bother calling to to do anything then their Grant amount goes down and 217 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:59,840 their loan goes up and as you wait those many years your interest rate goes up 218 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,600 it's a huge disincentive um to to wait because we really have something we've 219 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:08,360 got to get ahead of to save ourselves the money all the money over the time 220 00:19:05,159 --> 00:19:12,799 the City reviews these ques we had we've reviewed quotes already and yet we have 221 00:19:10,679 --> 00:19:18,240 some that are way too high and they're both qualified contractors we're going 222 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:24,200 to you use the lower paid the lower contract um then City notifies the grant 223 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,919 mode amount on year and income so that like I said before it's a based on what 224 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:32,760 year you do it and the income level you're at but the grants are are pretty 225 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:41,320 lucrative in terms of liberalizing in other words if you're making up to 226 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:41,320 uh if you're not over 2 IMI 227 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:51,760 you're and then once it correction we go ahead and INSP and 228 00:19:48,919 --> 00:19:55,960 then inspection that you can put in your files 229 00:19:54,440 --> 00:20:01,159 home payment internal repair 230 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:06,200 proper contact contact reinspect um there's two ways to 231 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,679 do this and I think I've mentioned this before but this is this will be out here 232 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,000 so people can actually follow it now if the property owner pays the contractor 233 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,640 if you could afford to do that and then the city reimburses the property owner 234 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:21,760 up to the Grand amount um in the new program we made it 235 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:27,320 very clear we're not going to remodel your basement if it's not related to 236 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Clean Water Act remediation the isn't going to reimburse 237 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:36,520 out of rates if somebody had a 20y old carpet and they were put a dump pump in 238 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:43,080 they have to cut away with their carpet out you're going to have to pay for your 239 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:46,760 own carpet or tile whatever and again we see a lot of that we've seen a couple of 240 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:52,039 those already and we've had to say yeah we and many people understand that they 241 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:58,720 don't expect the rest of the city great pairs um other way to do this don't want 242 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:03,320 to front the money you are unable to um receive the unconditional wer so in 243 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:07,320 other words you'll have to um go to the contractor get your prices like we did 244 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:12,799 in the other flowchart and then you'll say to them um we'll give you a form of 245 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:18,000 full conditional waiver of lean so they can't lean your house what it does it 246 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:22,760 says when the the check that you give me clears that means you have given up your 247 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:27,840 lean right on that home the city will see that once you've submitted the waor 248 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:32,279 the city the city will pay you the will pay you and then the property owner uses 249 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,840 that money to pay the contract so we're going to give you exactly what that 250 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:40,360 quote is up to the grant amount in most cases it's 100% of everything you're 251 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:44,880 paid except for um aesthetic improvements and then you'll be paid 252 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,679 back so there's again there are two ways to get paid one is quickest way this the 253 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:51,720 quickest way to get your money is pay it up front subit your invoice probably in 254 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:56,679 two or three weeks you're going to get your money this one maybe 45 days by the 255 00:21:54,279 --> 00:22:01,600 time you get the contractor to actually sign a conditional waiver of lean if if 256 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:06,120 the contractor wants to talk I mean most contractors I know knows know the lean 257 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:09,440 waiver process full conditional full conditional full partial unconditional 258 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:14,679 all those things are done with the building trade so once they do that we 259 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,360 should be hopefully contractors are understanding this people are asking me 260 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,360 when I'm meeting is there a list that's been one of the ongoing questions we 261 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:26,279 don't have a list because what's happening is once you're inside the home 262 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:30,200 that work requires by State Statute requires a licensed plumber 263 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,600 um we don't have a lot of lists of licensed plumbers but if you Google it 264 00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:38,360 around this area you'll find hundreds of licensed plumbers in this area um one 265 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,000 person came to me and said well plumber came to me and said no you need an 266 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,480 excavation contractor because I don't think that person wanted to actually go 267 00:22:42,679 --> 00:22:48,679 in the crawl space and dig a three- foot old with a sump Pro but that's not an 268 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:54,600 excavation contractor that's a plumber at that point 269 00:22:50,600 --> 00:23:00,840 so um any questions take questions on this particular thing before we go any 270 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,840 further any questions driving 271 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:10,799 presentation the dep no um we're hoping that we don't 272 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:18,840 find 22t deep laterals that need uh actually dug up and repaired um but we 273 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,840 also lining is not going to make a 274 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:29,480 difference MH well we've got those guys backed up 275 00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:33,120 doing reports they have to get in their office and start doing those reports and 276 00:23:31,159 --> 00:23:37,240 fill them out it's not it's a checkbox report but there's also a stipulation 277 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:42,799 underneath that says hey this is what we think is necessary to complete doesn't 278 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:46,039 it's not a whole if we we reserve the right to be wrong on that because your 279 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:50,880 contract going to look at it inter that report um but they should be able to 280 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,600 interpret that report I haven't had it some of the people that are coming to 281 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,200 meet with you don't have their reports some of them do they look at the video 282 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,880 together with them and kind of do what we did here and explain them I haven't 283 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,799 had anybody walk out thinking I this program is terrible I mean people are 284 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,799 very 285 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,640 [Music] 286 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:22,400 happy just to remind me if both of you could just email me my email I'll make 287 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,400 sure you get I I was not 288 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:30,360 aware uh sometimes it could be a month or two before you got the report because 289 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,360 it so backed up right 290 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:41,320 actually in a month you can just call me or text me or email me and I'll make 291 00:24:38,399 --> 00:24:41,320 sure that the report 292 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:52,679 gets well as soon as people and and here's the here's the general risk right 293 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:57,520 this is the big risk here um now be completely transparent we 294 00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:01,399 don't know what federal government's going to do in any 295 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,799 um was a little scary last week when that funding got shut off and that 296 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:10,399 included the funding for this program um I hope that that doesn't St and I know 297 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:16,720 it's not now Court um next step is like we all know 298 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:21,840 on that second part of the program which is the the work that's being done inside 299 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,200 the home in those grants um we need either the state legislator to 300 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:30,320 legislature to act but we need the Attorney General's office after we get 301 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:34,279 our record finding orders ended we have not seen that document yet that early 302 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:38,360 February have not seen it yet from the EPA once we have that we'll go to the 303 00:25:36,399 --> 00:25:42,760 attorney general hopefully put a consent degree and have the court order us to 304 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:46,440 use money inside a home if we don't get that soon enough we work from we met 305 00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:50,080 with Erica white today and asked for Point Blank you even if we have to write 306 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:56,480 the legislation care and the last one that passed was 307 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:00,559 was Clean Water Act regulation where you could spend public money inside of a 308 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:04,760 home for lead service line all we want you to do is say the same thing for 309 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:10,640 sanitary sanitary tours as long as it's to comply with Clean Water 310 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,640 Act go 311 00:26:19,159 --> 00:26:25,840 ahead the company first of all when they do when they do the inspection require 312 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:30,679 door hangers on coming there through there um and then once we do this same 313 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:36,440 thing we take out bids company who gets bid the line we have to have contact 314 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:40,279 I'll put a number on there hanger call us because there sometimes you're going 315 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,840 to have to get inside your home right um this gentleman here they're going to 316 00:26:41,399 --> 00:26:44,919 have to get your home because if they're going to get in they're going to make 317 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,399 sure that they're actually getting the lining as far as they need to get it 318 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:51,399 inside the home because I this you're the second home owner who told me that 319 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:56,320 their sewer actually goes in the ground in the back of the house go underneath 320 00:26:53,399 --> 00:26:59,039 the whole basement get the front we don't want to leave that undone because 321 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,919 there's water sitting around that basement and nobody lines it if you just 322 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,919 do the repair inside the house you got 20 ft of 20 or 30 ft of lateral that old 323 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:14,159 play lateral on each Foundation you're going to have that same make sense to 324 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:14,159 line anything leave one section 325 00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:28,440 open go ahead um I don't 326 00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:31,320 what 327 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,080 happens hope you don't because our guys are going to be 328 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,399 working your contractor should be contacting our our our sewer guys to 329 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:51,279 make sure they do it you're going to fail reinspection 330 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:54,640 probably if somebody puts a sump pump in we get down there and float it out of 331 00:27:52,679 --> 00:28:00,960 the ground sometimes that happens before you put the concrete it the pressure of 332 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:04,279 the water pushes it out back fall um or somebody comes in and we've seen 333 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:09,320 contractors do that in the last month we've seen two homes where they all this 334 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:12,480 bement R system in the whole shot and they nice some pump and it takes that 335 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,000 one and a half inch line and ties it right into 336 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,399 the that's what you would be failed for and that contract is probably going to 337 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,399 get a 338 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,799 talk so I would I can't imagine any other way to fail that or if they didn't 339 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:34,000 actually do the work they just put a sum pum in either the or the grains do it 340 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:37,480 and it won't do you can drow holes and stuff you get the 341 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,679 water if it's still tight in 342 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:10,840 our general R here not broken down we will be able to line 343 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:16,880 if it's offset some of we were showing you some that were offset separated we 344 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:23,679 can line through it will hard when you have these offsets that 345 00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:23,679 lateral Line work very 346 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:30,039 well you can take all the water all you want if you're 347 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:45,760 back that that camera under the water quite a 348 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,760 distance that's always going to back up 349 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:08,720 Patrick I had a couple please thank you um you didn't shed any light or maybe 350 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:15,279 you did but on the 250% greater Ami what are they eligible for oh question El 20 351 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:23,240 GR in the first year so do extend anybody above $198,000 352 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:28,200 a year household I want to make it very clear that adjusted gr gross 353 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:32,720 income um does not include business loss or rental 354 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:37,880 losses so to the extent you know you can have 20 355 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:43,399 houses and you can get them online you program based on your income but if your 356 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:47,799 income is artificially lowered because business losses and Rental losses you 357 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:52,120 will be thrown into another category which is still not that bad 358 00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:56,600 it's still 20 it's still a 20% loan and 80% Grant to the extent you schedule 359 00:30:54,679 --> 00:30:59,080 that work and you commit to doing the work 360 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:03,000 thank you doesn't mean you're committing to do the work in the first year you're 361 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:07,559 committing the first year to do the work sometime in the next three days yeah I 362 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,039 just wanted the public to know that that there's still relief for them in that 363 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,600 respect then secondly why wouldn't why wouldn't we and I'm sure this has been 364 00:31:13,399 --> 00:31:21,000 talked about why wouldn't um the contractor Bill the city directly we pay 365 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:24,960 them directly because we're not bidding the 366 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,519 work we're not involved in the bidding process okay that's a bidding process 367 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:34,200 with the homeowner that's right and it's much quicker let them negotiate the 368 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,480 price we we don't say oh the other guy was lower and this guy was lower 369 00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:43,080 homeowner do that okay thank 370 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:46,559 you just your price before you it to us just from experience we had we had my 371 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,360 mother-in-laws inspected the first of November it took about two months to get 372 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:55,080 a report that was our that was our experience so some sometimes we have to 373 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:59,840 go back right we just can't get to put camera through we have to wait for 374 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,840 people to clean out 375 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,639 um please don't make the mistake that you're inl T without checking like Rick 376 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:11,440 did check and his neighbor would have paid a lot more money to replace an 377 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:18,480 entire sanitary sewer if he hadn't taken the advice to get somebody to clean it 378 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,480 out not a KN and it worked well 379 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:40,279 um it's going to be based on the homeowner when the work is done um 380 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:45,919 otherwise we're outside we AUD so um that's the idea of getting it 381 00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:51,399 done as in infected we're hopefully going to 382 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:57,960 put on another Hammer crew hopefully get those infected even more instead of 383 00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:01,559 being August maybe next din about open do 384 00:32:59,399 --> 00:33:04,039 that but you're right it's going to have to be 385 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,679 whoever I mean let's say that do the work you sell your house a month later 386 00:33:09,399 --> 00:33:15,600 you signed the loan agreement or whatever or you got the grant it's no 387 00:33:12,639 --> 00:33:17,760 longer on whatever the owner was time the 388 00:33:19,399 --> 00:33:26,120 gr and I want to make clear again I've said this a couple times the three units 389 00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,120 and 390 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:35,080 above we do is based on what our water tling is um you can have multiple homes 391 00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:41,880 you have multiple D um to the extent that we build you 392 00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:50,159 commercially that's where the cut off um we are not 393 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:58,279 likely go to deep into this um we are not recommending R study reason being is 394 00:33:54,039 --> 00:34:04,320 the rates that we charge are based on actual 395 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:09,040 cost water and that's a number that number is divided by the number of units 396 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:14,200 sell at your rate you don't have a choice we don't have a choice right um 397 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:20,879 if you're talking about an equity issue I can tell you that based on 398 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Rus leave it here that 17% of our accounts are business accounts those 399 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,440 buiness 400 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:39,040 businesses aren't going to enjoy the service of getting brand new steward 401 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:45,560 because they already have Steward that are in good shape they're going to be 402 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:49,119 pay so our recommendation not to do a study we get to 403 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:59,640 far all right can we move on that good yeah thank you 404 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:08,599 all right next up is committee the whole president barl thank you mayor McDonald 405 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:12,000 uh having reviewed the agenda do Council have any questions or 406 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:20,560 concerns haven't see none this concludes the committee of the 407 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:26,800 whole thank you we'll move to Citizen comments we have one Dave 408 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:31,760 Ross a three minute limit uh please you just state your name and RS that'd be 409 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:43,400 great uh dve Ross 1701 Trail View um just a letter I want to read while an 410 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:48,680 ordinance May legally allow the city to retroactively apply 2025 rates fairness 411 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:52,760 is about more than legality it's about what's doing it's about doing what is 412 00:35:50,839 --> 00:35:56,640 reasonable for the residents people expect to pay for services based on the 413 00:35:54,599 --> 00:36:01,960 rates that they were affect when they actually use them char charging 2025 414 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:06,240 rates for 2024 Services is an unfair financial burden especially if residents 415 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:10,680 had already budgeted according to the 2024 416 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:15,880 rates ethical considerations an ordinance May Grant legal Authority but 417 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:21,119 that does not make it fair residents expect consistency when they use their 418 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:26,359 water and sewer services in 2024 they should be build at 2024 rates changing 419 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:30,520 the rates after the fact creates a disconnect between the 420 00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:35,480 period and the billing period leaving people feeling misled and unfairly 421 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:41,079 treated even if Allowed by law this approach feels exploited 422 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:46,160 exploitative undermining trust in local government even if the ordinance permits 423 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:50,760 retroactive rate changes residents may see it as a betrayal of trust it could 424 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:55,960 feel as though the city is prioritizing Revenue generation over fairness the 425 00:36:53,640 --> 00:37:00,240 practice could lead to public resentment especially if people are blindsided by 426 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:05,160 unexpected rate hikes and have no time to adjust their finances this risks 427 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:10,520 eroding the trust residents have in their local government financial burden 428 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:15,079 on- residents for many a sudden increase in rates for past usage could be 429 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:20,319 financially devastating particularly for lowincome or fixed income households 430 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:25,040 residents already budgeted based on 2024 rates and an unexpected hike could 431 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:29,680 create financial hardship late fees or even an inability to pay this this puts 432 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,920 additional stress on people who may already be struggling to make ends meet 433 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:39,200 while an ordinance may allow the city to apply 2025 water rates this is I'm 434 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:43,240 dealing with sorry to the 2024 Services doing so is fundamentally unfair it 435 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,040 creates a disconnect between service and cost undermines trust in the city's 436 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,839 leadership and imposes an undue financial burden on the residents the 437 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:55,200 city should prioritize fairness and transparency implying rate changes 438 00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:01,560 prospectively rather than retroactively thanks thank you thank 439 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:08,400 you uh I think we might be able to explain some of your questions uh Mr bur 440 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:13,040 yeah I will start and then I'll hand this over to our finance director rates 441 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:18,160 were not changed after the fact when the rate ordinance was passed here 442 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:22,599 transparently on the number of readings that we required to have and it was 443 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:28,079 discussed here overly is that the change would take effect in the bill that's due 444 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:32,960 this quarter um that was in the paper it was reported um this is not something 445 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,240 that was done retroactively Jennifer if you could jump in here uh yes that is 446 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:42,280 correct and it did go through three readings in um May and June um and it 447 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:47,640 was very clear because there has been some confusion in the past that it was 448 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:53,920 bills due after January 1st and as Patrick's just went over we're we are 449 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:58,119 tackling this Monumental project where substantially everybody's lateral and 450 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:03,319 internal work will be covered covered and we're able to do that through the 451 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:08,960 user fees that we're we're charging I I do know um this might help 452 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:15,480 you a little bit understand that when the rates were um discussed last spring 453 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:20,839 um I sent a letter to everybody's house and it was explained in there why the 454 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:26,480 rates were what they were and 75% of the increase was the increase that too was 455 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:30,000 charging for their water and that's that's passed on directly to us the 456 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,160 other part of it was how much it was costing us to actually treat water down 457 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,680 at the treatment plant so we don't have our own treatment plant we have to buy 458 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:44,040 water from too like everybody else does um they uh put in a $500 million incre 459 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:49,599 or uh upgrade to the colins water plant they're going to pass that cost on uh we 460 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:54,720 are one of one community in this County that's going to be dealing with this 461 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,599 over the next several years uh White House Waterville and near the end of 462 00:39:56,319 --> 00:40:03,400 last year obviously had increase theirs and others will too this year in that 463 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:08,040 letter at the bottom there was a chart for 5 years worth of increases it was 464 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:13,200 explained in that chart exactly what those numbers were going to be so that 465 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:17,720 number was sent or that letter was sent to everybody's household um sometimes 466 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:22,160 people forget what they read or they know it was there but that was a pretty 467 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:25,920 transparent letter about exactly what what was involved in their embra 468 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:30,720 increase it was something that I asked for and thought it was necessary 469 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,240 everybody was told that and there's a and like said again if you have that 470 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:38,480 letter there's a chart at the bottom that explains the rate increases um and 471 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:43,040 what those would be so if that's uh a letter that you have lost or you don't 472 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,040 have reference to we certainly could uh give you another copy of 473 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,920 that okay we'll move on adoption of the 474 00:40:52,359 --> 00:40:58,560 agenda um we we can take we can take questions at the end this is a business 475 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,319 me we got to get through the business and then 476 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:07,560 yeah so adoption of the agenda there's some um one addition that was the 477 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,560 executive session at the end I think that's there it's on here though it's on 478 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:16,200 there it should be on your new copy right okay yeah we'll take a motion to 479 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:20,520 approve the agenda mayor McDonald I move we adopt the agenda as presented I'll 480 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:25,640 second that motion thank you uh we'll call the 481 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:31,839 RO Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback yes Nunan yes poffenberger yes barl yes 482 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:36,200 viscus yes approval of the meeting minutes uh actually the motion is 483 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,599 approved for the agenda approval of the meeting minutes there's some typos there 484 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,240 so we actually need a motion to approve the regular meeting minutes of January 485 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:49,200 21st 2025 and then under that the regular 486 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:54,800 minutes of January 21st 2025 meeting so if we could have a motion to uh that yes 487 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,760 uh thank you mayor McDonald uh I will make a motion to approve the regulat 488 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:05,160 meeting minut regular meeting minutes excuse me of January 21st 489 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:10,480 2025 I'll second that motion thank you U we'll call the rule on the meeting 490 00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:16,960 minutes Harris yes Kurt yes linebach yes Nunan yes poffenberger yes Barrow yes 491 00:42:13,319 --> 00:42:20,160 Fus yes thank you that motion is carried we go to number eight petitions and 492 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,079 Communications I'll entertain a motion to accept the petitions and 493 00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:27,920 Communications and place on file thank you mayor I move to accept petitions 494 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,240 Communications and place on file file I'll second that motion thank you we 495 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:37,800 have two uh issues before you one is the public information committee meeting on 496 00:42:34,359 --> 00:42:41,640 122 Parks and Rec committee meeting on 128 uh I believe Mr fiscus is Chairman 497 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,319 on both of those do you have some comments uh yes uh so the public 498 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:50,720 information committee we met uh January 22nd uh discussed some ideas to increase 499 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,680 communication out to the public one of them was the letter that went out this 500 00:42:52,119 --> 00:43:01,040 week we're going to do other things like that as well as things on the um website 501 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:04,920 um we mentioned the state of cities happening again 502 00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:08,960 tomorrow uh and then uh some other information that's going to be added on 503 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:15,160 the uh website in the future for the parks and rec committee um we discussed 504 00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:20,960 the Ral Park Pool uh the only the only suggestion for changes was uh a slight 505 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,680 change to the hours moving them all up a half hour so 12:30 p.m. till 7:30 p.m. 506 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:31,720 because there wasn't much use at the end of the day all the rates are staying the 507 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:35,839 same uh we talked about the improvements at Epstein Park which we kind of 508 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:40,319 discussed last uh meeting as well and then we went over some future ideas and 509 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:45,760 goals for the parks to kind of give us ideas moving forward so we could budget 510 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:51,800 properly and that was it thank you okay thank you we have a motion in a second 511 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,760 any other comments from Council we'll call the role on petitions and 512 00:43:53,119 --> 00:44:01,839 Communications Harris yes Kurt yes linebach yes nun yes coffen bger yes 513 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:05,680 barl yesus yes thank you that motion is carried number nine consent calendar 514 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:10,160 we'll entertain a motion and a second and we'll discuss these yes M thank you 515 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:14,319 mayor McDonald I will move to approve all consent calendar items and I will 516 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:18,000 second that motion thank you a is a recommendation from the city 517 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,559 administrator Mr bur yeah this is to approve a contract between Lucas County 518 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:26,119 public defender commission City momy for legal defense for Indigent people okay 519 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:30,040 every year and that's an ongoing contract year to year 520 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,760 and B is also a recommendation to endorse updates to the sanitary sewer 521 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:38,160 overflow remediation policy yeah that's in your packet and that's what John 522 00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:42,640 passed around um that is basically we changed it so that the the more low 523 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,040 income you had or more medial income you had you had the ability to get U more 524 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:53,200 lateral done so we could actually get everybody under $198,000 and laterals 525 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:57,520 completed and also um one thing I didn't mention in the presentation is that you 526 00:44:55,079 --> 00:45:03,040 have um when it get to the the really high incomes um in 2030 you're no longer 527 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:08,880 available we're trying to get those people get them in here quickly um so 528 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:12,920 basically if you have over 250% Ami 29 and 30 there is no funding available if 529 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,119 you don't do it before those times used to go out to 2030 and your interest rate 530 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,160 creeped up in the first three years you didn't do it for people with high income 531 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,359 uh we didn't touch the lower income brackets um for that but I want to make 532 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:30,160 sure you know what was in there thank you any further discussion on 533 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:36,079 that okay we'll call the rooll on the consent calendar Harris yes Kurt yes 534 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:42,680 linebach yes Nunan yes poen bger yes barl yes fiscus yes okay motion is 535 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:48,599 carried go to 10 new business a it's a recommendation from the mayor approving 536 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:54,400 resolution 2 2025 declaring February 9th through 15 2025 as Ohio loves Transit 537 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:59,559 week uh let me read this resolution to you whereas the city Momi desires to 538 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:04,200 designate February 9 through 15 2025 as Ohio Love's Transit week in recognition 539 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:08,280 of the efforts being made across Ohio and in Lucas County to improve public 540 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:12,280 transit and whereas Transit is an important element of our community as it 541 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,240 enhances the ability of individuals to find ways to get to work doctor's 542 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,280 appointments schools stores entertainment and other activities that 543 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:23,640 are important to all residents citizens whereas the accomplishments of TARTA are 544 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,359 a Justified source of Pride and an excellent reflection not only on the 545 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:32,079 organization itself but also also on its leaders and members indeed these fine 546 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,520 Ohioans have worked diligently to help people get to where they need to go and 547 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:40,160 they Merit praise for their outstanding commitment to offer to offering shared 548 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,559 Ride Transportation services at a low cost to our community whereas tarda has 549 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,960 enhanced the quality of life within the area through the services it offers 550 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,839 whereas all those associated with tarda are to be commended for their foresight 551 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:57,680 dedication and selfish donations of time energy and ability far beyond what is 552 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,200 required or expected whereas in adopting this resolution 553 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:05,440 mommy offers its continued support for all transit which improves the ability 554 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,839 of our community to find ways to the places that are important in the lives 555 00:47:07,319 --> 00:47:14,280 and extend best wishes for ongoing success now therefore be it resolved by 556 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:19,240 the council by the city of Miami Lucas County state of Ohio as follows that 557 00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:23,559 February 9 through 15 2025 is hereby designated as Ohio loves Transit week in 558 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:27,559 the city of Mii the city of Mii recognizes the significance of transit 559 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,680 in our community the city of Mai recognized the importance role tarda in 560 00:47:29,319 --> 00:47:36,000 its organization play in providing Transit opportunities to our citizens 561 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,520 the city of Mai supports Tara and all transit efforts in our 562 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:42,440 community this Council finds and determines that all formal action of 563 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,680 this Council and any of its committee concerning and related to the passage of 564 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,359 this resolution were taken in an open meeting of this Council and that all 565 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:54,079 deliberations of this Council and any of its committees that resulted in those 566 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,839 formal actions were in open meetings to the public in compliance with the 567 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,440 charter of the city of M Ohio law this resolution shall take effect and be 568 00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:08,599 enforced from and after the earliest period Allowed by law I also understand 569 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:13,040 that um TARTA is offering um fixed drought par Transit and TARTA Flex 570 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:18,040 Services free of charge on uh Tuesday February 11th and honoring this uh 571 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:23,800 Transit week as well just some interesting facts that I thought are 572 00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:29,480 important to note um uh in Ohio uh as to how it relates to public transit Ohioans 573 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:33,160 are served by 20 plus public transit systems and Mobility management 574 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,800 providers in the state's urban and rural communities that's 575 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:42,880 Statewide Ohio transit systems provide 100 million rides per year including 576 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:47,599 15.9 million that meet the needs of seniors and people with 577 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:53,680 disabilities Ohio's transit system spends $900 million per year generating 578 00:48:51,079 --> 00:49:00,240 3.6 billion in economic activity Ohio's 60,000 Transit workers 579 00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:04,440 help create and support 180,000 private and public sector 580 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:08,799 jobs so it's just to note that it's important that we do uh honor and 581 00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:14,640 recognize an important piece of our community and the state as well so that 582 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:17,640 resolution is before you Mrs puffenberger yeah thank you mayor 583 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:25,040 McDonald I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 002 d225 a resolution 584 00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:29,319 declaring February 9th through 15th 2025 as Ohio Low's Transit week 585 00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:33,200 thank you mayor McDonald I will second that motion thank you and thank you Miss 586 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:37,720 puffenberger for your work on this as well any other 587 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:47,319 comments and we'll call the rooll on the resolution Harris yes yesb yes nun yes 588 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:51,960 puffenberger yes barl yes yes B is a recommendation from the finance 589 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:56,240 committee to approve ordinance 3- 2025 a water and sewer discount program which 590 00:49:54,240 --> 00:50:00,200 offers discounted Water and Sewer rates toal qu ifying seniors and individuals 591 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,799 with disabilities uh just a little background 592 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:08,799 on this I actually presented this to um the finance committee this morning 593 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:16,359 thought this was a par important piece that we needed to revisit as a community 594 00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:25,119 um our current senior discount is um $10 per quarter for uh seniors uh and we are 595 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:31,720 asking that we um increase this to $30 uh per order and um the importance 596 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:36,839 of this really is that we we have had some rate 597 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:41,480 increases and in in in meetings with our city administrator 598 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:47,400 and some of the seniors that have come forward um this was something that was 599 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,720 uh important to them and and of course with their um income fixed income that 600 00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:58,480 they have they're they're finding it um you know more and more difficult to uh 601 00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:08,000 deal with all costs of utilities and and that's understandable um so what this 602 00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:13,960 basically entails is um changing um the uh the the rate in at to which a senior 603 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:21,040 can qualify so for a household size of one it went up from $30,000 to$ 35,1 123 604 00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:27,040 anybody that reaches that is one person household is at that number or below um 605 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:31,200 would qualify for the senior discount and then it goes up from there for a 606 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:36,440 household size of two three and four there is an application that you fill 607 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:41,920 out uh it um that you that you can get that from year to year it's basically 608 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:50,240 tripling the senior discount from $10 to $30 per per quarter um yeah per Quarter 609 00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:54,240 U that is one of the largest in the area I don't know anybody else that's 610 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:58,720 offering that kind of a discount um I know I know that Columbus is pretty um 611 00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:02,839 aggressive in their senior discount I believe it's higher than that or equal 612 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,400 to it we're higher than Columbus higher than Columbus pass so um there's nobody 613 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,480 in the area that's offering this kind of discount at at a higher income rate 614 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:17,720 level it's really equivalent to about a th gallons um of usage per quarter is 615 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:23,559 what it kind of amounts to right Y is that accurate that's accurate so um with 616 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,200 that being said um I thought it was important that we took it to the finance 617 00:52:24,799 --> 00:52:30,400 and economic development committee this morning 618 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:35,079 they are bringing this before you as a recommendation and um we're going to 619 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,760 need two motions uh one to wave the three readings and the second one to 620 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,079 approve the ordinance is it any age too if you're 621 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:49,920 disabled primarely disable it's 65 permanently disable oh any age I'm 622 00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:55,559 sorry if per the disability side I got you yes yes thanks so we'll entertain a 623 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,880 motion to wave the three leadings and then before the uh entertain a motion to 624 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,079 the for the ordinance and if there's further discussion we'll do that yes 625 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,920 thank you mayor McDonald first I'd like to make a motion to wave the three 626 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:13,880 readings i' second that thank you we'll call the RO on that Harris yes Kurt yes 627 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:19,960 Lineback yes n yes poen bger yes Barrow yes viscus yes and I will move to 628 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:27,280 approve ordinance 003 d225 and ordinance amending codified ordinance section 629 00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:32,599 92114 in ordinance 058 -222 relative to a water and sewer 630 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:37,839 discount program and declaring in no second that no no no no declaring of 631 00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:41,480 an emergency we don't need that all right we'll have a second on that and 632 00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:47,760 the floor is open councel any comments or discussion anybody I would just like 633 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:52,160 to um uh thank our finance director and uh Patrick and mayor McDonald for poting 634 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:57,079 it out listening to the public when people come to talk about the uh 635 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:01,599 difficulty financially and and what they have to pay you know we've had increases 636 00:53:59,319 --> 00:54:06,920 in Mai over the last few years because they had to be it had to be done 637 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:11,079 but I I'd like to appreciate rather and recognize them for seeing that need and 638 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:16,799 giving Aid to the senior citizens and disability that are that are helping get 639 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:21,200 helped out with this rather thank you thank you we'll call the role on 640 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:25,760 that motion to approve ordinance um I think we need a second 641 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:30,520 there was that Gabe that did you second it sure yes 642 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:36,799 thank you m Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes Barrow 643 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:41,160 yes viscus yes thank you and C is a recommendation from the finance 644 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:46,079 committee to approve resolution 3- 2025 a resolution authorizing community 645 00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:52,440 support for the mommy Valley historical society and we need two motions on this 646 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:57,119 as well yes thank you MD make a motion to wave the three readings oh I'm sorry 647 00:54:54,680 --> 00:55:02,839 Mr KK I will second that motion mayor thank you we'll call the RO on that 648 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:07,920 Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback yes nun yes huffenberger yes Barrow yes fiscus 649 00:55:05,799 --> 00:55:13,920 yes and a motion to approve the resolution please uh yes I would like to 650 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:19,480 make a motion to approve resolution 003 d225 a resolution authorizing the 651 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:26,160 expenditure of public funds in 2025 for Lucas County mommy Valley Historical 652 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:30,520 Society I will second it Mr Mayor okay thank thank you little history on this 653 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:34,319 um we've supported the the Walcott house because of its historical significance 654 00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:39,000 obviously for many years uh the city owns the wot house um it's in its 655 00:55:36,799 --> 00:55:44,640 surrounding buildings and property uh has provided support to the wcot house 656 00:55:40,799 --> 00:55:49,839 for many years um and um this pretty much comes very close to matching last 657 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:53,440 year um kudos to the to the walk out house they are attempting to try to 658 00:55:51,760 --> 00:56:00,119 raise money on their own through different Avenues U marketing the church 659 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:04,280 rentals um and certain events that are there I believe they last year they kind 660 00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:09,280 of came to the tune of about $20,000 that they raised on their own um 661 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,000 just sponsoring events and renting the church and doing other things to help 662 00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:18,680 offset the cost um the site manager there Mike nebauer has done a really 663 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,640 nice job in in providing us with a budget and where the money is going to 664 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:26,920 go and um some of the Capital Improvements that they do need out there 665 00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:31,520 um so the funding support the part-time employment of the site manager uh 666 00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:35,760 maintenance and janitorial services uh the site management provides aison with 667 00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:38,839 the city department so they do keep in contact with our public service 668 00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:44,440 department to see if there's anything we can provide um at at no cost to them to 669 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:49,880 do some of the work that that's needed out there funds are used for uh to 670 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:56,400 upkeep and also repairs maintenance utilities and security uh the walcot uh 671 00:56:52,839 --> 00:57:01,240 Heritage Center is uh 6 Acres all of it and it has six historical buildings that 672 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:05,839 are open for Public tours um one of the highlights is the jack ky's uh mommy 673 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:09,839 Memorial Museum um has over 10,000 historical items it tells the story of 674 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:14,160 Mommy if you've never seen it it's pretty cool um so Mommy and surrounding 675 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,880 schools and other organizations have done tours and field trips there it's a 676 00:57:16,839 --> 00:57:24,319 it's a destination place um we have found that about 60% of the visitors 677 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:30,160 that go there are Mommy residents um and they also have a lawn uh 678 00:57:26,799 --> 00:57:34,520 lawn things in the summer um they've they've hosted the Miami Children's Home 679 00:57:31,799 --> 00:57:39,319 reunion which is pretty cool it's got some history there um so if you haven't 680 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:44,920 gone to the wall cot house I would recommend that you do so it's a it's a 681 00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:48,599 historical significant piece of Mami and I'm happy we're able to continue to fund 682 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:54,039 that and keep it going and we'll call the RO any anything 683 00:57:51,160 --> 00:58:00,400 else from Council on that okay thank you we'll call the RO on approving um 684 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:06,119 community support for the mommy Valley Historical Society Harris yes Kurt yes 685 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:12,599 linebach yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes barl yes fiscus yes he thank you uh 686 00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:18,079 we'll move to Mayor and council member comments um just one for me I did attend 687 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:22,280 Saturday night the um the mommy High School distinguished alumnus award at 688 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:27,760 Parkway uh Plaza my wife and I went it was a great uh event uh and they also 689 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:32,680 inducted did um athletic Hall of Fame inductees as well um so the four 690 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:38,359 distinct alumnist was Sarah Otis Trey Omen um who is a colonel in the Air 691 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:43,400 Force actually uh Katherine denler in liy survey who's um actually did the 692 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:47,680 Christmas uh program here at the mommy indoor this past uh holiday season with 693 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,760 her husband Stephen and the four athletic Hall of Fame inductees were 694 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:55,160 Paul Schultz Justin Banks he was a running back for the um uh mommy 695 00:58:53,680 --> 00:59:01,720 Panthers actually a very good running back and and um Brook tulus um was a 696 00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:06,039 cross country and longdistance Runner there broke a lot of records and then 697 00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:12,559 went on to the University of Toledo was all Mac uh um and All-American and also 698 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:16,440 one a couple of um big uh all Mac titles there too as well and then Mike mcder 699 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:22,079 who had a long history of being a wrestling coach and and uh a teacher at 700 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:28,000 Mommy high school that was a great event and I know Mr fiscus was there with his 701 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,720 wife and um it's very good to see um a lot of these people that have come 702 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,319 through our Momi schools um be very very successful in their life and they're 703 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:41,480 willing to come back and and be honored for that so 704 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:46,520 cool and we will move on from there to um Mr Harris thank you mayor McDonald uh 705 00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:51,119 just want to remind everybody that tomorrow evening that we will be having 706 00:59:48,839 --> 00:59:54,839 the second state of the city address and the first one went very well um I was 707 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:59,119 really excited to hear about all the businesses that are coming and I believe 708 00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:03,640 we've added some more as well so he'll definitely talk about that I do plan on 709 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,880 being in attendance for this as well so if uh afterwards anyone has any 710 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:11,680 questions don't be afraid to tap me on the shoulder and be happy to have a 711 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:16,880 conversation with you thank you Mr Kurt thank you Mr Mayor uh I enjoyed the 712 01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:21,039 presentation uh Dr bur at your reference to colonoscopy was 713 01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:24,960 uh interesting I grew up my father was a 714 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:30,760 gastroenterologist we heard a lot about colonoscopies sigmoidoscopies 715 01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:35,599 endoscopies is probably why I went to law school and not medical school 716 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:40,039 because too much colonoscopy talk so I will move on because I've already said 717 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:45,520 too much about uh I don't know is Max still here perhaps Nancy can know would 718 01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:53,200 it be possible the three of us or four of us up here can't see the screen can 719 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,200 we get it on in a live feed on our 720 01:00:53,240 --> 01:01:03,280 phones okay okay great thank you uh let's 721 01:00:59,319 --> 01:01:08,839 see congratulations on the we've reached 703 inspections I know that was our goal 722 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:13,160 so congratulations on that and thank you to all of you who were uh part of that 723 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:18,039 and I would just like to call out I see Mark man sitting here I tried to get 724 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:22,599 your email uh the other day U some reason I didn't get it but I understand 725 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:27,400 you you uh shoveled the snow of my driveway because my uh I couldn't fit a 726 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:31,400 snow shovel on my on my Walker thing here so uh you were kind enough you and 727 01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:36,640 somebody else I don't remember who else but thanks Mark that's all I have mayor 728 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:40,480 McDonald thank you Mr KK Mr Lineback thank you mayor McDonald I have no 729 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:46,079 medical procedure comments to make but I would say uh that I'm 730 01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:50,280 probably one of well over many seven eight nine 10 or so people up here who 731 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:55,559 think the program that's uh come together for the city is a very good 732 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:59,440 program the the idea of no tanks I love it 733 01:01:56,359 --> 01:02:04,680 I love it and uh how the community is coming together to share you know share 734 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,319 a Community Wide burden um it's exciting exciting to see it come together and all 735 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:14,839 those people signed up expect to see more soon right thank you thank you Mr 736 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:20,520 Nunan uh thank you mayor McDonald excuse me uh just wanted to commend uh Dr BS 737 01:02:17,799 --> 01:02:24,920 Jennifer the rest of admin the rest of the administration and the finance 738 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:31,000 committee for uh you know presenting to us the the ability for uh some relief 739 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:35,559 for um the senior citizens and uh individuals with disabilities uh when it 740 01:02:33,279 --> 01:02:41,920 comes to water bills so that discount is going to be a positive thing I believe 741 01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:49,240 going forward uh obviously in tandem with that is uh you know hearing having 742 01:02:45,279 --> 01:02:55,119 over 700 inspections is um uh scheduled is truly an remarkable thing so uh just 743 01:02:52,359 --> 01:02:59,400 wanted to reiterate to the um residents here and then people that are watching 744 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:04,640 you know that every day and every week and every month uh you know as we deal 745 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:10,480 with the situation we're just getting uh more and more positive things to uh as 746 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:14,640 we approach this stuff going forward so congratulations and kudos to everybody 747 01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:17,039 on working on hard on that and uh obviously I know we're going to have 748 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:22,880 more positive things this here going forward thank you thank you and Miss 749 01:03:20,279 --> 01:03:27,000 puff murer uh thank you mayor McDonald um I look forward to the second state of 750 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:31,359 the city um tomorrow evening that should be a lot of fun um the first of them 751 01:03:29,319 --> 01:03:36,160 first was very interesting it's things we hear about all the time um but it's 752 01:03:34,279 --> 01:03:41,599 nice to see it all wrapped up into one presentation um and I wanted to make 753 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:46,720 sure everyone's aware of next week um which is an international acts of 754 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:52,400 kindness week um so be thoughtful of that when you post on social media and 755 01:03:49,440 --> 01:04:00,079 interact with your neighbors um and I'd like to thank uh 756 01:03:56,559 --> 01:04:04,279 thank everyone for that the flow chart and the chart showing payment I think 757 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:10,000 that visual is going to be very helpful to be able to share with um other mommy 758 01:04:07,319 --> 01:04:14,079 residents and and while encouraging them to also sign up uh to get their 759 01:04:11,799 --> 01:04:18,680 inspections done and will happen the 1 of March 760 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:23,440 thanks thank you Mr bar thank you m mcdal um we hear about Economic 761 01:04:21,279 --> 01:04:27,680 Development a lot when we began when I began in 2020 we really got the ball 762 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:32,440 rolling took a little time to do it takes years actually 763 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:36,680 to find out who it is that's coming to Momi and how we can uh make this happen 764 01:04:34,839 --> 01:04:41,119 and get the ball rolling and it's really been going wonderfully but economic 765 01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:46,079 development is a process of improving the Regional Community with the creation 766 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:50,760 of jobs and the wealth to the uh to its Community uh so through the business 767 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:55,160 revenues that we do collect it offsets the expenses of running the city 768 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:59,079 obviously large businesses have more people working there more income taxes 769 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:03,680 collected and that's a mechanism that offsets a lot of these huge expenses 770 01:05:01,319 --> 01:05:09,200 that the city uh endures during during its every year of running um so it it it 771 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:14,240 is that's that's what we have to do we have to keep this uh machine going that 772 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:19,359 brings more businesses here we're looking down the road 25 30 years and 773 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:23,799 we're getting these things in place now also uh I will be at the state of the 774 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:27,119 city tomorrow if you have any questions we'll be happy to answer for you thank 775 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,640 you thank 776 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:35,480 [Music] you Mr fiscus thank you mayor uh one one 777 01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:40,079 more clarification on my parks's report uh Miss puffenberger pointed this out to 778 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:46,160 me yesterday um there is not a fire station going in at R Park that was a 779 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:50,760 typo Arrow it is forestation Project didn't want anyone think we were 780 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:55,640 building a new fire station uh speaking of environmental things um Earth Day 781 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:59,359 cleanup this year we're going to do on Saturday April 12th already talked to 782 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,799 one of the groups that helped us last year that's the date that works for them 783 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:07,680 it's a little earlier than we normally do it but um when you get a large group 784 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:12,160 of people who want to help you you don't turn them down you say yes I will take 785 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:15,799 that date so April 12th it's Saturday probably uh we normally start at 9:00 786 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,319 a.m. and we'll meet right out in the courtyard we had a great crowd last year 787 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:24,000 so hopefully we have more people this year thank you can't make it 10 so I can 788 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:29,400 sleep in you can come late if you want you don't have to be there right at 9: 789 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:33,960 we'll take you for an hour here or there thank you and uh we'll move the city 790 01:06:31,799 --> 01:06:36,960 administrator for up any updates yeah I got a couple things I just want to start 791 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:42,799 and I'll I'll lighten it up at the end of this I just want to I 792 01:06:39,279 --> 01:06:46,920 I last week or a couple weeks ago I talked about how some of the threats 793 01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:52,480 that get yelled at me when I'm walking down the street and so on and all those 794 01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:55,079 things and and and somebody who's part of the recall group thought it was 795 01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,760 important to write a letter to the editor the blade saying it's not 796 01:06:57,359 --> 01:07:08,000 personal raising money to get people or prosecute people on a menacing charge is 797 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:13,720 impossible almost but and said it wasn't personal but this person in the group 798 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:18,000 keeps making it personal I give you an example I was spoke I was asked to speak 799 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:23,400 by Scott the owner of Ernest Brewery last Wednesday night Facebook that 800 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,160 person decided it was important to say we're boycotting that business because I 801 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:35,079 was working there somehow I was subhuman to actually speak at a business same 802 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:38,680 person um decided that um one of the people decided that they would take the 803 01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:43,680 channel 11 video that Jeff Smith asked me to come down and give on Thursday 804 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:49,760 night decided to doctor that video and repost it when I took when Jeff was 805 01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:53,599 asking me a question I paused so they slowed the video and zoomed it into my 806 01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:58,720 face to make it look like I didn't know what I was talking about also part of 807 01:07:55,839 --> 01:08:03,839 the recall group um so this kind of feels personal when you do that kind of 808 01:08:01,279 --> 01:08:10,599 thing um then 809 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:18,560 also um the same people decided on mommy matters that it was important 810 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:24,920 to um speak about a sergeant in this police force about how somehow it was 811 01:08:21,719 --> 01:08:28,520 nepotistic and that that because his father said this Council was elected 812 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:34,319 after this police officer was hired and he was promoted that somehow he made too 813 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:39,080 much money made a big deal of it I'm not sure why that's important but the issue 814 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:44,000 is is I want to make it very clear that the sergeant that was promoted is these 815 01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:48,440 promotions and Josh can ask any you can ask him any questions afterwards but 816 01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:52,799 this particular person scored the highest on every report of the exam that 817 01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:57,560 was given in the Serge's exam is that right Josh and he was hired 818 01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:02,560 he was promoted to Sergeant he is not the highest paid 819 01:08:59,799 --> 01:09:06,080 Sergeant we have and if anybody knows what it's like to recruit police 820 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:13,120 officers nowadays considering what they go through in that job um I'm not sure 821 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:18,799 what's too much pay um but again this isn't personal but it appears 822 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:24,520 to be personal um I had uh two letters brought to me um from 823 01:09:22,839 --> 01:09:31,239 people who lived in an apartment complex here by the owner who sent them letters 824 01:09:27,799 --> 01:09:34,440 spewing all sorts of hateful lies half the letter was about me um none of which 825 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,920 were true um but I do have friends in town 826 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:44,480 that will tell me those things but I just want to make sure that we're 827 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:49,640 talking about the week that um acts of kindness week that margar was talking 828 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:54,279 about as you consider that that when people in this audience or people who 829 01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:56,960 are in this audience consider that the people you're talking about are human 830 01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:01,440 beings and they're somebody's father grandfather they somebody's son or 831 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,800 daughter um it doesn't have to be that way especially if you claim that it's 832 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,960 not personal anyway I going to um to lighten 833 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,040 it up uh Epstein Park um we did do have the sign purchas agreement back we'll be 834 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:18,360 closing a couple of weeks on that property um uh we will have so I so 835 01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:22,000 Council can see I'll probably show this on the screen when we have our drawings 836 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:30,239 of what that Park will look like in inside in terms of its path um also 837 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:34,000 um we have um three additional Economic Development projects I can't speak of 838 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:39,320 them right now but I want you to know that we're working on now 41 different 839 01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:46,159 economic development projects um right now um some big some small um all be at 840 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:50,920 the same they create jobs they create density in our community um they create 841 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:55,440 opportunities and space that people want to live and be so um there's really a 842 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:59,679 lot of exciting stuff going on here I think mommy's uh heading toward a 843 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:04,760 Renaissance in terms of its infrastructure in terms of um the people 844 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:08,480 that want to move here I haven't found any house that goes unsold uh people 845 01:11:07,239 --> 01:11:11,840 don't want to be here that's their choice but there's a lot of houses 846 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:16,080 selling for pretty big dollars in this town that would never have sold that way 847 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:20,080 four years ago so it really has come to a point where um I think it's really 848 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:22,760 great that I see people in this audience I see nodding when I was going through 849 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:27,719 the presentation or getting on board with the program um that really is doing 850 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:31,520 the right thing by our residents and as you know public policy takes a little 851 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:35,320 bit to get through uh in the end you end up with a good a good policy and a good 852 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:40,480 program so thank you Mr Mayor and thank you Council for letting me serve thank 853 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:46,239 you thank you uh next up is executive session uh and we'll take um just a 854 01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:49,159 short recess before we go into executive session because I know there's some 855 01:11:47,239 --> 01:11:52,840 questions out in the audience that if counil wants to entertain them so if we 856 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:56,480 just we'll take I'll take a motion for executive session and then about 857 01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:00,840 10-minute recess and then we'll go into that yep go ahead thank you mayor I move 858 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:05,159 we move to Executive session for pending litigation and imminent Court action 859 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:12,159 I'll second that motion thank you we'll call the RO please Harris yes Kurt yes 860 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:17,400 linebach yes nen yes poen Burger yes Barrow yes biscuits yes okay we'll 861 01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:21,080 recess for a little bit and um and uh if anybody wants to come up or ask 862 01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,080 questions feel 863 01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:27,159 free 864 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,120 e 865 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,120 e 866 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,040 e 867 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,040 e 868 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,000 e 869 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,960 e 870 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,920 e 871 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,920 e 872 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,840 e 873 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,840 e 874 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,840 e 875 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,760 e 876 01:18:53,719 --> 01:18:56,719 e 877 01:19:23,719 --> 01:19:26,719 e 878 01:19:53,639 --> 01:19:56,639 e 879 01:20:23,639 --> 01:20:26,639 e 880 01:20:53,639 --> 01:20:56,639 e 881 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,560 e 882 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,520 e 883 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,520 e 884 01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,440 e 885 01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:26,440 e 886 01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,440 e 887 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,320 e 888 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,320 e 889 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,320 e 890 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:56,239 e 891 01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,239 e 892 01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:56,239 e 893 01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:26,119 e 894 01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:56,119 e 895 01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:26,119 e 896 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,040 e 897 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,040 e 898 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,040 e 899 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,960 e 900 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,920 e 901 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,920 e e 902 01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:24,440 I'm bet not okay we'll take a motion to um exit executive session in a second 903 01:32:22,679 --> 01:32:30,800 yes so moved I'll second that motion call the 904 01:32:27,639 --> 01:32:37,600 rule that was John and Phil first yes okay um Harris yes per yes Lineback yes 905 01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:42,000 Nan yes puffenberger yes Barrow yes viscus yes and a motion to adjourn till 906 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:46,360 next regularly scheduled meeting thank you I'd like to make a motion to adjourn 907 01:32:43,719 --> 01:32:50,400 to the next regularly scheduled meeting thank you mayor McDonald second motion 908 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:56,000 then we'll call the RO Harris yes Kur yes Lineback yes Newton yes hffg yes 909 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:59,159 Barrow yes that's good yes and motion's carried thank you