[0:00] guy you know it's like meeting right
yeah Max he's asking a question he's
[0:10] look
[0:14] familiar iwear a call to order the mai
city council meeting it's February 3rd
[0:20] 6:15 p.m. thank you all for attending
tonight and we'll call the RO Miss hary
[0:25] we have our municipal clerk is absent
tonight she's ill so miss hary you're
[0:30] filling in thank you uh Harris yes Kurt
yes line yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes
[0:37] phoh yes fiscus yes and we'll call uh
stand for the Pledge of Allegiance
[0:44] please pledge of allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America and to
[0:49] the rep for it stands one nation God
indivisible with liberty and justice for
[0:57] all
[Music]
[1:02] okay thank you I believe before we start
the committee the whole we do have a um
[1:08] a presentation about the sewer
inspection process
[1:12] um you going to go down take care of
that okay Mr bur will present that to us
[1:19] mostly because I can't see that
[1:23] far
[1:26] didn't it's close to me
you
[1:33] [Music]
[1:38] one there is there is a new flowchart
that's been that's been put together so
[1:43] that might be what you're getting passed
around the program that done just now
[1:48] pass around um is up here I'm going to
go through it really quickly and then
[1:53] we're going to go through some other
things there's some also um could you
[1:56] speak into the microphone please Dr bur
that's on well the one that's on the
[1:59] yeahum
there thank you have a there's a handeld
[2:05] right there do that work um no well I'll
talk louder because I can't just stand
[2:11] here because I can't see everything all
right um I G to for those who have a
[2:16] queasy stomach you might want to leave
the room because I'm going to show you
[2:19] some some what I call the
colonos typ promises a long time ago so
[2:26] people would be able to see what we're
up against
[2:33] [Music]
right here what you're going to see have
[2:38] to walk away from here I'm going to give
you kind of a
[2:41] sense this the kind of thing that we
find in our
[2:45] community that plastic pipe right there
has a brand new fiber optic thing that
[2:50] drilled right through it drilled
overnight we also have a water M that
[2:56] goes through a sanitary manhole
this is a structure we found on Broadway
[3:04] that when we going through the pipe the
camera came out in a large catacomb type
[3:08] structure that was likely part of the
old eie Canal of course it's taking on
[3:12] storm
water you see all this right here coming
[3:18] out of here is water coming clean water
you see coming out around the base of a
[3:23] manhole in a pipe that's not properly
sealed in our sanitary system that's a
[3:27] sanitary manhole that's clean
groundwater coming
[3:31] in over here um you'll see that this is
the kind of thing that we see in some of
[3:37] our systems I'm sorry if everybody can't
see this brick stone and concrete and
[3:44] this flow here is clean water it's in a
sanitary
[3:47] system this right
here is on the County
[3:54] Fairground after it
rained this is the sanitary that water
[4:00] is coming off the fairgrounds and the
fairgrounds by the way doesn't have
[4:03] anybody there using the sanitary but
that's after a
[4:07] rainfall that's an aligned sanary sewer
so up in that system on the fairgrounds
[4:12] we're taking a lot of water which is why
we have a bit of contention
[4:17] here we just want to clean the system of
Clean
[4:21] Water com back I'm going to show you
this video here um you'll notice that
[4:26] this is a a video of a of a pipe like
the pl pipe some of you have already
[4:31] seen these in your homes have you seen
the the What's Happening Here down
[4:35] further about 49 ft you get to here
little SL you see it the pipe is on
[4:40] about 49 ft you see a pipe separation
wanted to show you that the city was
[4:45] lining your lateral that what we since
we can't line through a separated pipe
[4:50] like that we're going to make sure that
we dig down even if it is your private
[4:54] property with permission we're going to
fix that section and then line through
[4:57] it
give you good sense it it'll stop for
[5:02] minut it this just root intrusion has be
cleaned out line the PIP you won't see
[5:06] those joints anymore because the the
system we use will actually uh make it
[5:12] water
tyght you know it's that pipe the stuff
[5:16] that's actually meant to be in that
[5:20] pight that's fine that's it's it's good
so you see all these joints on these
[5:25] playay tile are all separated they're
not together anymore they've moved over
[5:30] time here are 42
[5:37] ft make
[5:47] turn all
right what's
[5:51] that Qui camera
here all right this is another one we
[5:56] talk about 14 ft you'll notice that you
got a it's a lateral going Homeward
[6:00] toward a Mainline and you can see a
cross
[6:06] connection you'll see it here this is
outside the home everybody tells me oh I
[6:11] don't think I have any pipes in my house
not you'll see this those are right
[6:15] there see that those are actually footer
drains tied into the sanitary sewer
[6:21] outside the foundation of the
home it gives you kind of a sense of
[6:26] what we're we have to dig that up and
somehow it's got to be separated with
[6:30] the either outside frock um and we've
got next one this is at a 22 ft there's
[6:38] missing
sealant generally cracked this is a
[6:41] point repair so we'll dig down as a
point repair like I did the first video
[6:46] you'll notice to see this here here the
pipe is cracked we'll dig down repair it
[6:51] and then we'll line through
it next video 57 ft in here um you'll
[6:59] notice that this is not uncommon um this
is a not a great sewer um this is likely
[7:06] a complete
replacement by the
[7:09] city you see some of these all these are
offset which means it's going be hard to
[7:14] line through
[7:17] them oh yeah these are all different
homes every one of these is a different
[7:28] home four five
okay yeah no
[7:33] problem there you
got
[7:39] I'm all right but you're pretty soon
here you're going to get
[7:44] to um you'll see that this camera isn't
pushing getting into a belly of a
[7:50] [Music]
pipe now you're
[7:56] underwater and it gets pretty gross e
um so this this pipe is actually going
[8:03] this way it doesn't flow well so that's
why there's so many repairs to do it
[8:07] doesn't make sense to start poth hoing
and fixing a sewer that's in this case 9
[8:11] and 1 half ft deep we might as well just
replace the whole line here we're still
[8:16] underwater but I want to show you
something else that you'll
[8:23] see you'll come out eventually sorry be
with
[8:30] all right there that's assess we're
we're finding a lot of these yeah I
[8:35] don't like to call themess sep but this
is a SE tank you see the solid at the
[8:41] bottom that's the outfall this is also
taking storm water in in some cases they
[8:47] act as catch basins in yards take
surface water so this this has to be
[8:52] removed the city will remove this as
well we did find one actually in a
[8:56] garage um which that person going we're
going to go around the garage with a new
[9:01] lateral excuse
[9:05] me this one actually is a PVC Schedule
40 pip and we wanted to show you just to
[9:11] kind of demonstrate how we go up a
lateral and how this push camera can
[9:16] actually turn the
[9:20] corner this one takes a little time I
think Nancy started to fall asleep
[9:36] self-preservation I can give a little
synopsis
[9:57] here there we go
[10:08] you can see a
conne your connection different
[10:15] part this is not the
schedule um our the
[10:21] H green stuff which is actually white
joint see how he trying and turn the
[10:27] corner once he does actually turn
in so the push camera he can actually
[10:34] steer and try to do as best he can to
get into but just kind of give you a
[10:37] sense of what we're up against um this
actually is on Valley
[10:41] Grove um those are over by the condos
that are over off
[10:49] seven this go and this will take you all
the way into the house like I was
[10:52] telling gentlemen back there it actually
goes all the way to where the sewer
[10:56] stack comes down into the basement and
that's where our lining will
[11:01] stop then you'll have to have a
[11:06] plumber I
don't all right this here this is 10
[11:13] areas in up we're considering this the
up there's over a thousand homes in this
[11:19] area they're color coded because every
area has a single outlet when it gets to
[11:24] the point when we're done lining and
done doing these repairs we'll put flow
[11:28] meters every intersection so we can have
a baseline we have a baseline now we'll
[11:34] know exactly what we've actually
completed um this is about a fourth of
[11:38] what we think we need to complete in
town these programs we're attempting to
[11:43] do now this is what council approved
last week is to have a firm going there
[11:47] because although we hit 703 inspections
today
[11:54] um not that they're all done but they've
been scheduled they' email Road thing
[12:00] they're not all going to be in this area
right so we have to get a firm in here
[12:04] to come in and do the laterals because
in order to do this as speedily as we
[12:08] need to to offset building these large
tanks is to start moving on this you're
[12:13] going to have a firm go in there and do
all the lateral inspection not inside
[12:17] the home it means that you haven't had
your inspection yet and that person and
[12:21] this company does that inspection
they're going to take points so we'll
[12:24] know be able to map on our ezri system
in GIS exactly how deep that sewer is
[12:29] when it makes a Bend if there's a belly
it'll all be GIS
[12:33] map that's what we need on every single
lateral to give to a company to bid the
[12:37] lining one they have to be able to line
so we're going to basically the only
[12:42] lining that we have not done up to on a
Mainline sewer is right
[12:49] here is here and then there's an area
right in here everything else the main
[12:55] lines have been have been lined so um
this is 10 areas we may put them just so
[13:01] you know when we give these quots out
and put these out to companies who
[13:06] actually do this work to L and give us
that for our information start process
[13:11] forewing we may take two areas and plump
them together so maybe it's five
[13:16] packages in terms of the inspection but
this is something that we have to do
[13:23] what will happen is that let's say you
have 700 homes in here that not had
[13:28] inspections at all we're going to line
through them we're going to actually
[13:32] line the laterals and then if you
haven't got your inspection we're out go
[13:36] how when are we out to now Jennifer uh
middle of August August and scheduling
[13:41] inspection so what'll happen is we will
still do you'll still be needed to
[13:47] actually schedule an inspection for your
interior
[13:50] work that way we'll have that
information
[13:54] too this is a
flowchart um uh first gave us a flow
[14:00] chart that that all the information it
was a good start and then we built it to
[14:04] another chart and then we actually had
all staff sit down over the last three
[14:08] weeks and go through it we would run
what if analyses on this thing and see
[14:12] what happens if this happened what
direction would you go if this happen so
[14:17] these are colorcoded help you act
responsibility the property own is in
[14:20] green so anything you see green is a
property responsibility the action
[14:26] responsibility blue is by the city then
action steps from a fail inspection is
[14:32] everything you come in here you have a
you schedule your inspection we'd like
[14:36] you to sched Q&A with me if you have an
issue if you want to understand how like
[14:40] this gentleman back here want to know
where the where ly to that those
[14:44] questions can be answered somebody has
I've had now 48 meetings as of today
[14:50] with um property owners that have come
in and gone through this process um if
[14:54] no correction is needed obviously get a
compliance certificate and we have have
[14:59] those almost ready too but if you need
correction follow these other steps so
[15:05] this on this side of the thing and I
I've passed some of these out and this
[15:09] will be posted online tomorrow if you're
on this side of the um of the
[15:14] flowchart that talks about the laterals
who's responsible this is a little bit
[15:19] different the PowerPoint that I sent out
here a little bit ago that you passed
[15:22] around is is what we had is we used to
have anybody over 250% Ami got 100 ft
[15:28] done
there's was 200 ft if if you made over
[15:31] $200,000 a year you're going to put some
money in it doesn't make sense to
[15:35] council or us uh our staff to have
somebody who's making
[15:40] $30,000 paying for somebody who's making
400 so we didn't change this but we did
[15:47] here once we got to the 200% Mii between
those two numbers we went to 300t
[15:52] lateral that was 200 before when you got
down to 150% to 250 200% then we dropped
[16:00] when went up to 400 ft of lateral and
once we got the people were making less
[16:06] than 100% G me income going all the way
up to 450 ft and the reason I I have
[16:13] this here is I know is that if I go back
we went through here on the river we
[16:18] have some homes that have laterals that
are longer than 200 ft and we didn't
[16:22] want to leave them out and some of those
people that we could tell didn't have
[16:26] incomes as high as somebody who had own
a very large house on the river the
[16:31] house right here off of wing lateral
goes to Broadway about a 450t
[16:37] lateral is that your house oh wind back
in the woods that is your
[16:43] house yeah so you know in case you
didn't know your lateral goes to
[16:47] Broadway so um so anyway there are some
houses in here that hit that threshold
[16:53] we want to make sure that people that
didn't make hundreds of thousands of
[16:56] dollars a year got their laterals if we
find something I'm sure Council look
[17:01] into that change those things if we find
anybody else that's at a certain income
[17:07] that has lower has
less um this one is a payment so to the
[17:13] extent you follow this side which is
property owner responsibility the grant
[17:19] loan application Property Owners um we
do this we have to get two quotes you'll
[17:24] get a report from us some of you in the
room anybody in the room actually have
[17:28] their report yet
okay you do so I show you how many
[17:33] people we don't have to find out 700
seem like a lot until nobody raised
[17:35] their hand so um I know somebody a lot
of people up here either signed up or
[17:40] I'm sure people have signed up anyway um
the idea here is that we're looking for
[17:45] down spout connections lack of sump pump
a sump pump that's connected
[17:49] incorrectly um and some other foter tile
connection our switch camera can see a
[17:55] lot of that so what we're doing is once
you get down here gr own application
[17:59] once you get a price get quotes you
apply for a grant application what we're
[18:04] seeing is inside fixes are range between
55 to
[18:08] $7,000 um there might be some in
particular be higher than that but we
[18:11] don't put a limit on what we will fund
if you're again you look at that
[18:15] PowerPoint you'll notice that if you're
making less than $198,000 a year and you
[18:21] schedule the first year and you sign a
commitment document in that first year
[18:25] if to do it even if you're waiting till
2027 to do it that you'll be guaranteed
[18:29] the funding that you would have been a
to before in 2025 which in that case is
[18:34] a 100% Grant there's no
loan what happens is when you when
[18:41] somebody gets down here and they realize
that they want to wait till 2027 they
[18:46] don't bother calling to to do anything
then their Grant amount goes down and
[18:51] their loan goes up and as you wait those
many years your interest rate goes up
[18:56] it's a huge disincentive um to to wait
because we really have something we've
[19:01] got to get ahead of to save ourselves
the money all the money over the time
[19:05] the City reviews these ques we had we've
reviewed quotes already and yet we have
[19:10] some that are way too high and they're
both qualified contractors we're going
[19:14] to you use the lower paid the lower
contract um then City notifies the grant
[19:21] mode amount on year and income so that
like I said before it's a based on what
[19:26] year you do it and the income level
you're at but the grants are are pretty
[19:30] lucrative in terms of liberalizing in
other words if you're making up to
[19:36] uh if you're not over 2 IMI
[19:42] you're and then once it
correction we go ahead and INSP and
[19:48] then inspection that you can put in your
files
[19:54] home
payment internal repair
[19:59] proper contact
contact reinspect um there's two ways to
[20:04] do this and I think I've mentioned this
before but this is this will be out here
[20:07] so people can actually follow it now if
the property owner pays the contractor
[20:11] if you could afford to do that and then
the city reimburses the property owner
[20:14] up to the Grand
amount um in the new program we made it
[20:19] very clear we're not going to remodel
your basement if it's not related to
[20:25] Clean Water Act
remediation the isn't going to reimburse
[20:29] out of rates if somebody had a 20y old
carpet and they were put a dump pump in
[20:35] they have to cut away with their carpet
out you're going to have to pay for your
[20:38] own carpet or tile whatever and again we
see a lot of that we've seen a couple of
[20:44] those already and we've had to say yeah
we and many people understand that they
[20:48] don't expect the rest of the city great
pairs um other way to do this don't want
[20:55] to front the money you are unable to um
receive the unconditional wer so in
[21:00] other words you'll have to um go to the
contractor get your prices like we did
[21:05] in the other flowchart and then you'll
say to them um we'll give you a form of
[21:10] full conditional waiver of lean so they
can't lean your house what it does it
[21:15] says when the the check that you give me
clears that means you have given up your
[21:19] lean right on that home the city will
see that once you've submitted the waor
[21:25] the city the city will pay you the will
pay you and then the property owner uses
[21:30] that money to pay the contract so we're
going to give you exactly what that
[21:33] quote is up to the grant amount in most
cases it's 100% of everything you're
[21:37] paid except for um aesthetic
improvements and then you'll be paid
[21:42] back so there's again there are two ways
to get paid one is quickest way this the
[21:47] quickest way to get your money is pay it
up front subit your invoice probably in
[21:50] two or three weeks you're going to get
your money this one maybe 45 days by the
[21:54] time you get the contractor to actually
sign a conditional waiver of lean if if
[21:59] the contractor wants to talk I mean most
contractors I know knows know the lean
[22:03] waiver process full conditional full
conditional full partial unconditional
[22:08] all those things are done with the
building trade so once they do that we
[22:12] should be hopefully contractors are
understanding this people are asking me
[22:16] when I'm meeting is there a list that's
been one of the ongoing questions we
[22:20] don't have a list because what's
happening is once you're inside the home
[22:23] that work requires by State Statute
requires a licensed plumber
[22:28] um we don't have a lot of lists of
licensed plumbers but if you Google it
[22:32] around this area you'll find hundreds of
licensed plumbers in this area um one
[22:36] person came to me and said well plumber
came to me and said no you need an
[22:39] excavation contractor because I don't
think that person wanted to actually go
[22:42] in the crawl space and dig a three- foot
old with a sump Pro but that's not an
[22:47] excavation contractor that's a plumber
at that point
[22:50] so um any questions take questions on
this particular thing before we go any
[22:56] further any questions driving
[23:03] presentation the
dep no um we're hoping that we don't
[23:08] find 22t deep laterals that need uh
actually dug up and repaired um but we
[23:14] also lining is not going to make a
[23:21] difference
MH well we've got those guys backed up
[23:27] doing reports they have to get in their
office and start doing those reports and
[23:31] fill them out it's not it's a checkbox
report but there's also a stipulation
[23:35] underneath that says hey this is what we
think is necessary to complete doesn't
[23:40] it's not a whole if we we reserve the
right to be wrong on that because your
[23:44] contract going to look at it inter that
report um but they should be able to
[23:48] interpret that report I haven't had it
some of the people that are coming to
[23:51] meet with you don't have their reports
some of them do they look at the video
[23:55] together with them and kind of do what
we did here and explain them I haven't
[23:59] had anybody walk out thinking I this
program is terrible I mean people are
[24:02] very
[24:05] [Music]
[24:14] happy just to remind me if both of you
could just email me my email I'll make
[24:18] sure you get I I was not
[24:23] aware uh sometimes it could be a month
or two before you got the report because
[24:27] it so backed up right
[24:34] actually in a month you can just call me
or text me or email me and I'll make
[24:38] sure that the report
[24:45] gets well as soon as people and and
here's the here's the general risk right
[24:49] this is the big risk here
um now be completely transparent we
[24:56] don't know what federal government's
going to do in any
[24:59] um was a little scary last week when
that funding got shut off and that
[25:03] included the funding for this program um
I hope that that doesn't St and I know
[25:07] it's not now
Court um next step is like we all know
[25:15] on that second part of the program which
is the the work that's being done inside
[25:18] the home in those grants um we need
either the state legislator to
[25:23] legislature to act but we need the
Attorney General's office after we get
[25:26] our record finding orders ended we have
not seen that document yet that early
[25:32] February have not seen it yet from the
EPA once we have that we'll go to the
[25:36] attorney general hopefully put a consent
degree and have the court order us to
[25:40] use money inside a home if we don't get
that soon enough we work from we met
[25:44] with Erica white today and asked for
Point Blank you even if we have to write
[25:48] the legislation
care and the last one that passed was
[25:53] was Clean Water Act regulation where you
could spend public money inside of a
[25:58] home for lead service line all we want
you to do is say the same thing for
[26:02] sanitary sanitary tours as long as it's
to comply with Clean Water
[26:07] Act go
[26:19] ahead the company first of all when they
do when they do the inspection require
[26:23] door hangers on coming there through
there um and then once we do this same
[26:28] thing we take out bids company who gets
bid the line we have to have contact
[26:33] I'll put a number on there hanger call
us because there sometimes you're going
[26:37] to have to get inside your home right um
this gentleman here they're going to
[26:41] have to get your home because if they're
going to get in they're going to make
[26:43] sure that they're actually getting the
lining as far as they need to get it
[26:46] inside the home because I this you're
the second home owner who told me that
[26:49] their sewer actually goes in the ground
in the back of the house go underneath
[26:53] the whole basement get the front we
don't want to leave that undone because
[26:57] there's water sitting around that
basement and nobody lines it if you just
[27:01] do the repair inside the house you got
20 ft of 20 or 30 ft of lateral that old
[27:06] play lateral on each Foundation you're
going to have that same make sense to
[27:10] line anything leave one section
[27:21] open go ahead
um I don't
[27:29] what
[27:36] happens hope you
don't because our guys are going to be
[27:40] working your contractor should be
contacting our our our sewer guys to
[27:44] make sure they do it you're going to
fail reinspection
[27:48] probably if somebody puts a sump pump in
we get down there and float it out of
[27:52] the ground sometimes that happens before
you put the concrete it the pressure of
[27:56] the water pushes it out back fall um or
somebody comes in and we've seen
[28:02] contractors do that in the last month
we've seen two homes where they all this
[28:06] bement R system in the whole shot and
they nice some pump and it takes that
[28:10] one and a half inch line and ties it
right into
[28:13] the that's what you would be failed for
and that contract is probably going to
[28:17] get a
[28:20] talk so I would I can't imagine any
other way to fail that or if they didn't
[28:25] actually do the work they just put a sum
pum in either the or the grains do it
[28:30] and it won't do you can drow holes and
stuff you get the
[28:37] water if it's still tight in
[29:01] our general R here
not broken down we will be able to line
[29:08] if it's offset some of we were showing
you some that were offset separated we
[29:13] can line through it will
hard when you have these offsets that
[29:20] lateral Line work very
[29:24] well you can take all the water all you
want if you're
[29:35] back that that camera under the water
quite a
[29:40] distance that's always going to back up
[30:00] Patrick I had a couple please thank you
um you didn't shed any light or maybe
[30:05] you did but on the 250% greater Ami what
are they eligible for oh question El 20
[30:13] GR in the first
year so do extend anybody above $198,000
[30:19] a year household I want to make it very
clear that adjusted gr gross
[30:25] income um does not include business loss
or rental
[30:29] losses so to the extent you know you can
have 20
[30:34] houses and you can get them online you
program based on your income but if your
[30:40] income is artificially lowered because
business losses and Rental losses you
[30:45] will be thrown into another
category which is still not that bad
[30:49] it's still 20 it's still a 20% loan and
80% Grant to the extent you schedule
[30:54] that work and you commit to doing the
work
[30:58] thank you doesn't mean you're committing
to do the work in the first year you're
[31:00] committing the first year to do the work
sometime in the next three days yeah I
[31:05] just wanted the public to know that that
there's still relief for them in that
[31:09] respect then secondly why wouldn't why
wouldn't we and I'm sure this has been
[31:13] talked about why wouldn't um the
contractor Bill the city directly we pay
[31:19] them directly because we're not bidding
the
[31:22] work we're not involved in the bidding
process okay that's a bidding process
[31:26] with the homeowner that's right and it's
much quicker let them negotiate the
[31:31] price we we don't say oh the other guy
was lower and this guy was lower
[31:35] homeowner do
that okay thank
[31:39] you just your price before you it to us
just from experience we had we had my
[31:44] mother-in-laws inspected the first of
November it took about two months to get
[31:48] a report that was our that was our
experience so some sometimes we have to
[31:53] go back right we just can't get to put
camera through we have to wait for
[31:56] people to clean out
[32:01] um please don't make the mistake that
you're inl T without checking like Rick
[32:05] did check and his neighbor would have
paid a lot more money to replace an
[32:09] entire sanitary sewer if he hadn't taken
the advice to get somebody to clean it
[32:12] out not a KN and it worked well
[32:32] um it's going to be based on the
homeowner when the work is done um
[32:37] otherwise we're outside we
AUD so um that's the idea of getting it
[32:44] done
as in infected we're hopefully going to
[32:49] put on another Hammer crew hopefully get
those infected even more instead of
[32:53] being August maybe next din about open
do
[32:59] that but you're right it's going to have
to be
[33:05] whoever I mean let's say that do the
work you sell your house a month later
[33:09] you signed the loan agreement or
whatever or you got the grant it's no
[33:12] longer on whatever the owner was time
the
[33:19] gr and I want to make clear again I've
said this a couple times the three units
[33:23] and
[33:26] above we do is based on what our water
tling is um you can have multiple homes
[33:33] you have multiple
D um to the extent that we build you
[33:38] commercially that's where the cut
off um we are not
[33:46] likely go to deep into this um we are
not recommending R study reason being is
[33:54] the rates that we charge are based on
actual
[34:00] cost water and that's a number that
number is divided by the number of units
[34:06] sell at your rate you don't have a
choice we don't have a choice right um
[34:11] if you're talking about an equity issue
I can tell you that based on
[34:17] Rus leave it here that 17% of our
accounts are business accounts those
[34:23] buiness
[34:33] businesses aren't going to enjoy the
service of getting brand new steward
[34:37] because they already have Steward that
are in good shape they're going to be
[34:41] pay so our recommendation not to do a
study we get to
[34:54] far all right can we move on that good
yeah thank you
[35:00] all right next up is committee the whole
president barl thank you mayor McDonald
[35:05] uh having reviewed the agenda do Council
have any questions or
[35:12] concerns haven't see none this concludes
the committee of the
[35:16] whole thank you we'll move to Citizen
comments we have one Dave
[35:23] Ross a three minute limit uh please you
just state your name and RS that'd be
[35:34] great uh dve Ross 1701 Trail View um
just a letter I want to read while an
[35:41] ordinance May legally allow the city to
retroactively apply 2025 rates fairness
[35:46] is about more than legality it's about
what's doing it's about doing what is
[35:50] reasonable for the residents people
expect to pay for services based on the
[35:54] rates that they were affect when they
actually use them char charging 2025
[35:58] rates for 2024 Services is an unfair
financial burden especially if residents
[36:04] had already budgeted according to the
2024
[36:07] rates ethical considerations an
ordinance May Grant legal Authority but
[36:13] that does not make it fair residents
expect consistency when they use their
[36:17] water and sewer services in 2024 they
should be build at 2024 rates changing
[36:24] the rates after the fact creates a
disconnect between the
[36:28] period and the billing period leaving
people feeling misled and unfairly
[36:32] treated even if Allowed by law this
approach feels exploited
[36:38] exploitative undermining trust in local
government even if the ordinance permits
[36:43] retroactive rate changes residents may
see it as a betrayal of trust it could
[36:48] feel as though the city is prioritizing
Revenue generation over fairness the
[36:53] practice could lead to public resentment
especially if people are blindsided by
[36:58] unexpected rate hikes and have no time
to adjust their finances this risks
[37:02] eroding the trust residents have in
their local government financial burden
[37:07] on- residents for many a sudden increase
in rates for past usage could be
[37:12] financially devastating particularly for
lowincome or fixed income households
[37:17] residents already budgeted based on 2024
rates and an unexpected hike could
[37:22] create financial hardship late fees or
even an inability to pay this this puts
[37:27] additional stress on people who may
already be struggling to make ends meet
[37:32] while an ordinance may allow the city to
apply 2025 water rates this is I'm
[37:36] dealing with sorry to the 2024 Services
doing so is fundamentally unfair it
[37:41] creates a disconnect between service and
cost undermines trust in the city's
[37:45] leadership and imposes an undue
financial burden on the residents the
[37:49] city should prioritize fairness and
transparency implying rate changes
[37:53] prospectively rather than
retroactively thanks thank you thank
[37:59] you uh I think we might be able to
explain some of your questions uh Mr bur
[38:06] yeah I will start and then I'll hand
this over to our finance director rates
[38:10] were not changed after the fact when the
rate ordinance was passed here
[38:15] transparently on the number of readings
that we required to have and it was
[38:20] discussed here overly is that the change
would take effect in the bill that's due
[38:25] this quarter um that was in the paper it
was reported um this is not something
[38:31] that was done retroactively Jennifer if
you could jump in here uh yes that is
[38:35] correct and it did go through three
readings in um May and June um and it
[38:40] was very clear because there has been
some confusion in the past that it was
[38:43] bills due after January 1st and as
Patrick's just went over we're we are
[38:50] tackling this Monumental project where
substantially everybody's lateral and
[38:56] internal work will be covered covered
and we're able to do that through the
[39:00] user fees that we're we're
charging I I do know um this might help
[39:07] you a little bit understand that when
the rates were um discussed last spring
[39:13] um I sent a letter to everybody's house
and it was explained in there why the
[39:17] rates were what they were and 75% of the
increase was the increase that too was
[39:23] charging for their water and that's
that's passed on directly to us the
[39:28] other part of it was how much it was
costing us to actually treat water down
[39:31] at the treatment plant so we don't have
our own treatment plant we have to buy
[39:34] water from too like everybody else does
um they uh put in a $500 million incre
[39:41] or uh upgrade to the colins water plant
they're going to pass that cost on uh we
[39:46] are one of one community in this County
that's going to be dealing with this
[39:52] over the next several years uh White
House Waterville and near the end of
[39:56] last year obviously had increase theirs
and others will too this year in that
[40:01] letter at the bottom there was a chart
for 5 years worth of increases it was
[40:05] explained in that chart exactly what
those numbers were going to be so that
[40:11] number was sent or that letter was sent
to everybody's household um sometimes
[40:16] people forget what they read or they
know it was there but that was a pretty
[40:19] transparent letter about exactly what
what was involved in their embra
[40:23] increase it was something that I asked
for and thought it was necessary
[40:27] everybody was told that and there's a
and like said again if you have that
[40:32] letter there's a chart at the bottom
that explains the rate increases um and
[40:35] what those would be so if that's uh a
letter that you have lost or you don't
[40:40] have reference to we certainly could uh
give you another copy of
[40:46] that okay we'll move on adoption of the
[40:52] agenda um we we can take we can take
questions at the end this is a business
[40:57] me we got to get through the business
and then
[41:00] yeah so adoption of the agenda there's
some um one addition that was the
[41:05] executive session at the end I think
that's there it's on here though it's on
[41:09] there it should be on your new copy
right okay yeah we'll take a motion to
[41:13] approve the agenda mayor McDonald I move
we adopt the agenda as presented I'll
[41:18] second that motion thank you uh we'll
call the
[41:21] RO Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback yes
Nunan yes poffenberger yes barl yes
[41:28] viscus yes approval of the meeting
minutes uh actually the motion is
[41:33] approved for the agenda approval of the
meeting minutes there's some typos there
[41:38] so we actually need a motion to approve
the regular meeting minutes of January
[41:41] 21st
2025 and then under that the regular
[41:45] minutes of January 21st 2025 meeting so
if we could have a motion to uh that yes
[41:52] uh thank you mayor McDonald uh I will
make a motion to approve the regulat
[41:56] meeting minut regular meeting minutes
excuse me of January 21st
[42:02] 2025 I'll second that motion thank you U
we'll call the rule on the meeting
[42:06] minutes Harris yes Kurt yes linebach yes
Nunan yes poffenberger yes Barrow yes
[42:13] Fus yes thank you that motion is carried
we go to number eight petitions and
[42:18] Communications I'll entertain a motion
to accept the petitions and
[42:21] Communications and place on file thank
you mayor I move to accept petitions
[42:25] Communications and place on file file
I'll second that motion thank you we
[42:29] have two uh issues before you one is the
public information committee meeting on
[42:34] 122 Parks and Rec committee meeting on
128 uh I believe Mr fiscus is Chairman
[42:40] on both of those do you have some
comments uh yes uh so the public
[42:43] information committee we met uh January
22nd uh discussed some ideas to increase
[42:49] communication out to the public one of
them was the letter that went out this
[42:52] week we're going to do other things like
that as well as things on the um website
[42:58] um we mentioned the state of cities
happening again
[43:02] tomorrow uh and then uh some other
information that's going to be added on
[43:06] the uh website in the future for the
parks and rec committee um we discussed
[43:11] the Ral Park Pool uh the only the only
suggestion for changes was uh a slight
[43:18] change to the hours moving them all up a
half hour so 12:30 p.m. till 7:30 p.m.
[43:24] because there wasn't much use at the end
of the day all the rates are staying the
[43:28] same uh we talked about the improvements
at Epstein Park which we kind of
[43:33] discussed last uh meeting as well and
then we went over some future ideas and
[43:37] goals for the parks to kind of give us
ideas moving forward so we could budget
[43:42] properly and that was it thank you okay
thank you we have a motion in a second
[43:48] any other comments from Council we'll
call the role on petitions and
[43:53] Communications Harris yes Kurt yes
linebach yes nun yes coffen bger yes
[43:58] barl yesus yes thank you that motion is
carried number nine consent calendar
[44:03] we'll entertain a motion and a second
and we'll discuss these yes M thank you
[44:07] mayor McDonald I will move to approve
all consent calendar items and I will
[44:12] second that motion thank you a is a
recommendation from the city
[44:15] administrator Mr bur yeah this is to
approve a contract between Lucas County
[44:19] public defender commission City momy for
legal defense for Indigent people okay
[44:24] every year and that's an ongoing
contract year to year
[44:27] and B is also a recommendation to
endorse updates to the sanitary sewer
[44:31] overflow remediation policy yeah that's
in your packet and that's what John
[44:35] passed around um that is basically we
changed it so that the the more low
[44:40] income you had or more medial income you
had you had the ability to get U more
[44:45] lateral done so we could actually get
everybody under $198,000 and laterals
[44:49] completed and also um one thing I didn't
mention in the presentation is that you
[44:55] have um when it get to the the really
high incomes um in 2030 you're no longer
[45:01] available we're trying to get those
people get them in here quickly um so
[45:05] basically if you have over 250% Ami 29
and 30 there is no funding available if
[45:11] you don't do it before those times used
to go out to 2030 and your interest rate
[45:15] creeped up in the first three years you
didn't do it for people with high income
[45:19] uh we didn't touch the lower income
brackets um for that but I want to make
[45:23] sure you know what was in there thank
you any further discussion on
[45:28] that okay we'll call the rooll on the
consent calendar Harris yes Kurt yes
[45:33] linebach yes Nunan yes poen bger yes
barl yes fiscus yes okay motion is
[45:39] carried go to 10 new business a it's a
recommendation from the mayor approving
[45:45] resolution 2 2025 declaring February 9th
through 15 2025 as Ohio loves Transit
[45:51] week uh let me read this resolution to
you whereas the city Momi desires to
[45:57] designate February 9 through 15 2025 as
Ohio Love's Transit week in recognition
[46:01] of the efforts being made across Ohio
and in Lucas County to improve public
[46:06] transit and whereas Transit is an
important element of our community as it
[46:10] enhances the ability of individuals to
find ways to get to work doctor's
[46:13] appointments schools stores
entertainment and other activities that
[46:17] are important to all residents citizens
whereas the accomplishments of TARTA are
[46:21] a Justified source of Pride and an
excellent reflection not only on the
[46:25] organization itself but also also on its
leaders and members indeed these fine
[46:29] Ohioans have worked diligently to help
people get to where they need to go and
[46:34] they Merit praise for their outstanding
commitment to offer to offering shared
[46:38] Ride Transportation services at a low
cost to our community whereas tarda has
[46:43] enhanced the quality of life within the
area through the services it offers
[46:47] whereas all those associated with tarda
are to be commended for their foresight
[46:50] dedication and selfish donations of time
energy and ability far beyond what is
[46:55] required or expected
whereas in adopting this resolution
[46:59] mommy offers its continued support for
all transit which improves the ability
[47:03] of our community to find ways to the
places that are important in the lives
[47:07] and extend best wishes for ongoing
success now therefore be it resolved by
[47:12] the council by the city of Miami Lucas
County state of Ohio as follows that
[47:16] February 9 through 15 2025 is hereby
designated as Ohio loves Transit week in
[47:21] the city of Mii the city of Mii
recognizes the significance of transit
[47:25] in our community the city of Mai
recognized the importance role tarda in
[47:29] its organization play in providing
Transit opportunities to our citizens
[47:34] the city of Mai supports Tara and all
transit efforts in our
[47:37] community this Council finds and
determines that all formal action of
[47:41] this Council and any of its committee
concerning and related to the passage of
[47:44] this resolution were taken in an open
meeting of this Council and that all
[47:48] deliberations of this Council and any of
its committees that resulted in those
[47:52] formal actions were in open meetings to
the public in compliance with the
[47:55] charter of the city of M Ohio law this
resolution shall take effect and be
[47:59] enforced from and after the earliest
period Allowed by law I also understand
[48:04] that um TARTA is offering um fixed
drought par Transit and TARTA Flex
[48:10] Services free of charge on uh Tuesday
February 11th and honoring this uh
[48:15] Transit week as well just some
interesting facts that I thought are
[48:19] important to note um uh in Ohio uh as to
how it relates to public transit Ohioans
[48:26] are served by 20 plus public transit
systems and Mobility management
[48:31] providers in the state's urban and rural
communities that's
[48:34] Statewide Ohio transit systems provide
100 million rides per year including
[48:40] 15.9 million that meet the needs of
seniors and people with
[48:44] disabilities Ohio's transit system
spends $900 million per year generating
[48:51] 3.6 billion in economic
activity Ohio's 60,000 Transit workers
[48:57] help create and support 180,000 private
and public sector
[49:02] jobs so it's just to note that it's
important that we do uh honor and
[49:06] recognize an important piece of our
community and the state as well so that
[49:12] resolution is before you Mrs
puffenberger yeah thank you mayor
[49:15] McDonald I'd like to make a motion to
approve resolution 002 d225 a resolution
[49:21] declaring February 9th through 15th 2025
as Ohio Low's Transit week
[49:27] thank you mayor McDonald I will second
that motion thank you and thank you Miss
[49:31] puffenberger for your work on this as
well any other
[49:35] comments and we'll call the rooll on the
resolution Harris yes yesb yes nun yes
[49:42] puffenberger yes barl yes yes B is a
recommendation from the finance
[49:48] committee to approve ordinance 3- 2025 a
water and sewer discount program which
[49:54] offers discounted Water and Sewer rates
toal qu ifying seniors and individuals
[49:59] with
disabilities uh just a little background
[50:02] on this I actually presented this to um
the finance committee this morning
[50:06] thought this was a par important piece
that we needed to revisit as a community
[50:11] um our current senior discount is um $10
per quarter for uh seniors uh and we are
[50:21] asking that we um increase this to
$30 uh per order and um the importance
[50:29] of this really
is that we we have had some rate
[50:34] increases and in in
in meetings with our city administrator
[50:40] and some of the seniors that have come
forward um this was something that was
[50:44] uh important to them and and of course
with their um income fixed income that
[50:50] they have they're they're finding it um
you know more and more difficult to uh
[50:55] deal with all costs of utilities and and
that's understandable um so what this
[51:02] basically entails is um changing um the
uh the the rate in at to which a senior
[51:11] can qualify so for a household size of
one it went up from $30,000 to$ 35,1 123
[51:19] anybody that reaches that is one person
household is at that number or below um
[51:23] would qualify for the senior discount
and then it goes up from there for a
[51:28] household size of two three and four
there is an application that you fill
[51:32] out uh it um that you that you can get
that from year to year it's basically
[51:38] tripling the senior discount from $10 to
$30 per per quarter um yeah per Quarter
[51:46] U that is one of the largest in the area
I don't know anybody else that's
[51:51] offering that kind of a discount um I
know I know that Columbus is pretty um
[51:57] aggressive in their senior discount I
believe it's higher than that or equal
[52:01] to it we're higher than Columbus higher
than Columbus pass so um there's nobody
[52:06] in the area that's offering this kind of
discount at at a higher income rate
[52:09] level it's really equivalent to about a
th gallons um of usage per quarter is
[52:15] what it kind of amounts to right Y is
that accurate that's accurate so um with
[52:21] that being said um I thought it was
important that we took it to the finance
[52:24] and economic development committee this
morning
[52:27] they are bringing this before you as a
recommendation and um we're going to
[52:32] need two motions uh one to wave the
three readings and the second one to
[52:37] approve the
ordinance is it any age too if you're
[52:41] disabled primarely disable it's
65 permanently disable oh any age I'm
[52:47] sorry if per the disability side I got
you yes yes thanks so we'll entertain a
[52:54] motion to wave the three leadings and
then before the uh entertain a motion to
[52:57] the for the ordinance and if there's
further discussion we'll do that yes
[53:00] thank you mayor McDonald first I'd like
to make a motion to wave the three
[53:04] readings i' second that thank you we'll
call the RO on that Harris yes Kurt yes
[53:10] Lineback yes n yes poen bger yes Barrow
yes viscus yes and I will move to
[53:16] approve ordinance 003 d225 and ordinance
amending codified ordinance section
[53:23] 92114 in ordinance 058
-222 relative to a water and sewer
[53:29] discount program and declaring in
no second that no no no no declaring of
[53:35] an emergency we don't need that all
right we'll have a second on that and
[53:39] the floor is open councel any comments
or discussion anybody I would just like
[53:44] to um uh thank our finance director and
uh Patrick and mayor McDonald for poting
[53:50] it out listening to the public when
people come to talk about the uh
[53:54] difficulty financially and and what they
have to pay you know we've had increases
[53:59] in Mai over the last few years
because they had to be it had to be done
[54:04] but I I'd like to appreciate rather and
recognize them for seeing that need and
[54:09] giving Aid to the senior citizens and
disability that are that are helping get
[54:13] helped out with this rather thank
you thank you we'll call the role on
[54:19] that motion to approve
ordinance um I think we need a second
[54:23] there was that Gabe that did you second
it sure yes
[54:27] thank you m Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback
yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes Barrow
[54:33] yes viscus yes thank you and C is a
recommendation from the finance
[54:38] committee to approve resolution 3- 2025
a resolution authorizing community
[54:42] support for the mommy Valley historical
society and we need two motions on this
[54:48] as well yes thank you MD make a motion
to wave the three readings oh I'm sorry
[54:54] Mr KK I will second that motion mayor
thank you we'll call the RO on that
[54:59] Harris yes Kurt yes Lineback yes nun yes
huffenberger yes Barrow yes fiscus
[55:05] yes and a motion to approve the
resolution please uh yes I would like to
[55:10] make a motion to approve resolution 003
d225 a resolution authorizing the
[55:16] expenditure of public funds in 2025 for
Lucas County mommy Valley Historical
[55:23] Society I will second it Mr Mayor okay
thank thank you little history on this
[55:27] um we've supported the the Walcott house
because of its historical significance
[55:32] obviously for many years uh the city
owns the wot house um it's in its
[55:36] surrounding buildings and property uh
has provided support to the wcot house
[55:40] for many years um and um this pretty
much comes very close to matching last
[55:47] year um kudos to the to the walk out
house they are attempting to try to
[55:51] raise money on their own through
different Avenues U marketing the church
[55:56] rentals um and certain events that are
there I believe they last year they kind
[56:02] of came to the tune of about
$20,000 that they raised on their own um
[56:07] just sponsoring events and renting the
church and doing other things to help
[56:11] offset the cost um the site manager
there Mike nebauer has done a really
[56:16] nice job in in providing us with a
budget and where the money is going to
[56:20] go and um some of the Capital
Improvements that they do need out there
[56:24] um so the funding support the part-time
employment of the site manager uh
[56:29] maintenance and janitorial services uh
the site management provides aison with
[56:33] the city department so they do keep in
contact with our public service
[56:37] department to see if there's anything we
can provide um at at no cost to them to
[56:42] do some of the work that that's needed
out there funds are used for uh to
[56:47] upkeep and also repairs maintenance
utilities and security uh the walcot uh
[56:52] Heritage Center is uh 6 Acres all of it
and it has six historical buildings that
[56:58] are open for Public tours um one of the
highlights is the jack ky's uh mommy
[57:03] Memorial Museum um has over 10,000
historical items it tells the story of
[57:07] Mommy if you've never seen it it's
pretty cool um so Mommy and surrounding
[57:12] schools and other organizations have
done tours and field trips there it's a
[57:16] it's a destination place um we have
found that about 60% of the visitors
[57:21] that go there are Mommy residents um and
they also have a lawn uh
[57:26] lawn things in the summer um they've
they've hosted the Miami Children's Home
[57:31] reunion which is pretty cool it's got
some history there um so if you haven't
[57:37] gone to the wall cot house I would
recommend that you do so it's a it's a
[57:42] historical significant piece of Mami and
I'm happy we're able to continue to fund
[57:46] that and keep it
going and we'll call the RO any anything
[57:51] else from Council on that okay thank you
we'll call the RO on approving um
[57:57] community support for the mommy Valley
Historical Society Harris yes Kurt yes
[58:03] linebach yes Nunan yes puffenberger yes
barl yes fiscus yes he thank you uh
[58:10] we'll move to Mayor and council member
comments um just one for me I did attend
[58:15] Saturday night the um the mommy High
School distinguished alumnus award at
[58:20] Parkway uh Plaza my wife and I went it
was a great uh event uh and they also
[58:25] inducted did um athletic Hall of Fame
inductees as well um so the four
[58:30] distinct alumnist was Sarah Otis Trey
Omen um who is a colonel in the Air
[58:36] Force actually uh Katherine denler in
liy survey who's um actually did the
[58:41] Christmas uh program here at the mommy
indoor this past uh holiday season with
[58:45] her husband Stephen and the four
athletic Hall of Fame inductees were
[58:49] Paul Schultz Justin Banks he was a
running back for the um uh mommy
[58:53] Panthers actually a very good running
back and and um Brook tulus um was a
[59:00] cross country and longdistance Runner
there broke a lot of records and then
[59:03] went on to the University of Toledo was
all Mac uh um and All-American and also
[59:09] one a couple of um big uh all Mac titles
there too as well and then Mike mcder
[59:14] who had a long history of being a
wrestling coach and and uh a teacher at
[59:19] Mommy high school that was a great event
and I know Mr fiscus was there with his
[59:24] wife and um it's very good to see um a
lot of these people that have come
[59:29] through our Momi schools um be very very
successful in their life and they're
[59:33] willing to come back and and be honored
for that so
[59:37] cool and we will move on from there to
um Mr Harris thank you mayor McDonald uh
[59:45] just want to remind everybody that
tomorrow evening that we will be having
[59:48] the second state of the city address and
the first one went very well um I was
[59:53] really excited to hear about all the
businesses that are coming and I believe
[59:56] we've added some more as well so he'll
definitely talk about that I do plan on
[1:00:01] being in attendance for this as well so
if uh afterwards anyone has any
[1:00:05] questions don't be afraid to tap me on
the shoulder and be happy to have a
[1:00:08] conversation with you thank you Mr Kurt
thank you Mr Mayor uh I enjoyed the
[1:00:14] presentation uh Dr bur at your reference
to colonoscopy was
[1:00:19] uh
interesting I grew up my father was a
[1:00:23] gastroenterologist we heard a lot about
colonoscopies sigmoidoscopies
[1:00:27] endoscopies is probably why I went to
law school and not medical school
[1:00:32] because too much colonoscopy talk so I
will move on because I've already said
[1:00:37] too much about uh I don't know is Max
still here perhaps Nancy can know would
[1:00:43] it be possible the three of us or four
of us up here can't see the screen can
[1:00:48] we get it on in a live feed on our
[1:00:53] phones okay okay
great thank you uh let's
[1:00:59] see congratulations on the we've reached
703 inspections I know that was our goal
[1:01:06] so congratulations on that and thank you
to all of you who were uh part of that
[1:01:11] and I would just like to call out I see
Mark man sitting here I tried to get
[1:01:14] your email uh the other day U some
reason I didn't get it but I understand
[1:01:20] you you uh shoveled the snow of my
driveway because my uh I couldn't fit a
[1:01:24] snow shovel on my on my Walker thing
here so uh you were kind enough you and
[1:01:29] somebody else I don't remember who else
but thanks Mark that's all I have mayor
[1:01:34] McDonald thank you Mr KK Mr Lineback
thank you mayor McDonald I have no
[1:01:38] medical procedure comments to
make but I would say uh that I'm
[1:01:43] probably one of well over many seven
eight nine 10 or so people up here who
[1:01:47] think the program that's uh come
together for the city is a very good
[1:01:52] program the the idea of no tanks I love
it
[1:01:56] I love it and uh how the community is
coming together to share you know share
[1:02:00] a Community Wide burden um it's exciting
exciting to see it come together and all
[1:02:06] those people signed up expect to see
more soon right thank you thank you Mr
[1:02:12] Nunan uh thank you mayor McDonald excuse
me uh just wanted to commend uh Dr BS
[1:02:17] Jennifer the rest of admin the rest of
the administration and the finance
[1:02:22] committee for uh you know presenting to
us the the ability for uh some relief
[1:02:27] for um the senior citizens and uh
individuals with disabilities uh when it
[1:02:33] comes to water bills so that discount is
going to be a positive thing I believe
[1:02:38] going forward uh obviously in tandem
with that is uh you know hearing having
[1:02:45] over 700 inspections is um uh scheduled
is truly an remarkable thing so uh just
[1:02:52] wanted to reiterate to the um residents
here and then people that are watching
[1:02:57] you know that every day and every week
and every month uh you know as we deal
[1:03:01] with the situation we're just getting uh
more and more positive things to uh as
[1:03:07] we approach this stuff going forward so
congratulations and kudos to everybody
[1:03:12] on working on hard on that and uh
obviously I know we're going to have
[1:03:15] more positive things this here going
forward thank you thank you and Miss
[1:03:20] puff murer uh thank you mayor McDonald
um I look forward to the second state of
[1:03:24] the city um tomorrow evening that should
be a lot of fun um the first of them
[1:03:29] first was very interesting it's things
we hear about all the time um but it's
[1:03:34] nice to see it all wrapped up into one
presentation um and I wanted to make
[1:03:38] sure everyone's aware of next week um
which is an international acts of
[1:03:43] kindness week um so be thoughtful of
that when you post on social media and
[1:03:49] interact with your neighbors
um and I'd like to thank uh
[1:03:56] thank everyone for that the flow chart
and the chart showing payment I think
[1:04:02] that visual is going to be very helpful
to be able to share with um other mommy
[1:04:07] residents and and while encouraging them
to also sign up uh to get their
[1:04:11] inspections done and will happen the 1
of March
[1:04:15] thanks thank you Mr bar thank you m
mcdal um we hear about Economic
[1:04:21] Development a lot when we began when I
began in 2020 we really got the ball
[1:04:25] rolling took a little time to do it
takes years actually
[1:04:30] to find out who it is that's coming to
Momi and how we can uh make this happen
[1:04:34] and get the ball rolling and it's really
been going wonderfully but economic
[1:04:39] development is a process of improving
the Regional Community with the creation
[1:04:43] of jobs and the wealth to the uh to its
Community uh so through the business
[1:04:48] revenues that we do collect it offsets
the expenses of running the city
[1:04:52] obviously large businesses have more
people working there more income taxes
[1:04:57] collected and that's a mechanism that
offsets a lot of these huge expenses
[1:05:01] that the city uh endures during during
its every year of running um so it it it
[1:05:07] is that's that's what we have to do we
have to keep this uh machine going that
[1:05:12] brings more businesses here we're
looking down the road 25 30 years and
[1:05:16] we're getting these things in place now
also uh I will be at the state of the
[1:05:21] city tomorrow if you have any questions
we'll be happy to answer for you thank
[1:05:25] you
thank
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you Mr fiscus thank you mayor uh one one
[1:05:32] more clarification on my parks's report
uh Miss puffenberger pointed this out to
[1:05:37] me yesterday um there is not a fire
station going in at R Park that was a
[1:05:42] typo Arrow it is forestation
Project didn't want anyone think we were
[1:05:48] building a new fire station uh speaking
of environmental things um Earth Day
[1:05:53] cleanup this year we're going to do on
Saturday April 12th already talked to
[1:05:57] one of the groups that helped us last
year that's the date that works for them
[1:06:01] it's a little earlier than we normally
do it but um when you get a large group
[1:06:05] of people who want to help you you don't
turn them down you say yes I will take
[1:06:09] that date so April 12th it's Saturday
probably uh we normally start at 9:00
[1:06:14] a.m. and we'll meet right out in the
courtyard we had a great crowd last year
[1:06:17] so hopefully we have more people this
year thank you can't make it 10 so I can
[1:06:21] sleep in you can come late if you want
you don't have to be there right at 9:
[1:06:26] we'll take you for an hour here or there
thank you and uh we'll move the city
[1:06:31] administrator for up any updates yeah I
got a couple things I just want to start
[1:06:35] and I'll I'll lighten it up at the end
of this I just want to I
[1:06:39] I last week or a couple weeks ago I
talked about how some of the threats
[1:06:45] that get yelled at me when I'm walking
down the street and so on and all those
[1:06:48] things and and and somebody who's part
of the recall group thought it was
[1:06:53] important to write a letter to the
editor the blade saying it's not
[1:06:57] personal raising money to get people or
prosecute people on a menacing charge is
[1:07:03] impossible almost but and said it wasn't
personal but this person in the group
[1:07:10] keeps making it personal I give you an
example I was spoke I was asked to speak
[1:07:16] by Scott the owner of Ernest Brewery
last Wednesday night Facebook that
[1:07:21] person decided it was important to say
we're boycotting that business because I
[1:07:25] was working there somehow I was subhuman
to actually speak at a business same
[1:07:30] person um decided that um one of the
people decided that they would take the
[1:07:36] channel 11 video that Jeff Smith asked
me to come down and give on Thursday
[1:07:40] night decided to doctor that video and
repost it when I took when Jeff was
[1:07:47] asking me a question I paused so they
slowed the video and zoomed it into my
[1:07:52] face to make it look like I didn't know
what I was talking about also part of
[1:07:55] the recall group um so this kind of
feels personal when you do that kind of
[1:08:01] thing
um then
[1:08:05] also um the same people decided on mommy
matters that it was important
[1:08:13] to um speak about a sergeant in this
police force about how somehow it was
[1:08:21] nepotistic and that that because his
father said this Council was elected
[1:08:26] after this police officer was hired and
he was promoted that somehow he made too
[1:08:31] much money made a big deal of it I'm not
sure why that's important but the issue
[1:08:37] is is I want to make it very clear that
the sergeant that was promoted is these
[1:08:41] promotions and Josh can ask any you can
ask him any questions afterwards but
[1:08:46] this particular person scored the
highest on every report of the exam that
[1:08:50] was given in the Serge's exam is that
right Josh and he was hired
[1:08:56] he was promoted to
Sergeant he is not the highest paid
[1:08:59] Sergeant we have and if anybody knows
what it's like to recruit police
[1:09:03] officers nowadays considering what they
go through in that job um I'm not sure
[1:09:09] what's too much pay um but
again this isn't personal but it appears
[1:09:16] to be personal um I
had uh two letters brought to me um from
[1:09:22] people who lived in an apartment complex
here by the owner who sent them letters
[1:09:27] spewing all sorts of hateful lies half
the letter was about me um none of which
[1:09:33] were
true um but I do have friends in town
[1:09:38] that will tell me those things but I
just want to make sure that we're
[1:09:41] talking about the week that um acts of
kindness week that margar was talking
[1:09:46] about as you consider that that when
people in this audience or people who
[1:09:51] are in this audience consider that the
people you're talking about are human
[1:09:55] beings and they're somebody's father
grandfather they somebody's son or
[1:09:58] daughter um it doesn't have to be that
way especially if you claim that it's
[1:10:02] not
personal anyway I going to um to lighten
[1:10:07] it up uh Epstein Park um we did do have
the sign purchas agreement back we'll be
[1:10:11] closing a couple of weeks on that
property um uh we will have so I so
[1:10:16] Council can see I'll probably show this
on the screen when we have our drawings
[1:10:20] of what that Park will look like in
inside in terms of its path um also
[1:10:26] um we have um three additional Economic
Development projects I can't speak of
[1:10:32] them right now but I want you to know
that we're working on now 41 different
[1:10:36] economic development projects um right
now um some big some small um all be at
[1:10:43] the same they create jobs they create
density in our community um they create
[1:10:49] opportunities and space that people want
to live and be so um there's really a
[1:10:53] lot of exciting stuff going on here I
think mommy's uh heading toward a
[1:10:58] Renaissance in terms of its
infrastructure in terms of um the people
[1:11:02] that want to move here I haven't found
any house that goes unsold uh people
[1:11:07] don't want to be here that's their
choice but there's a lot of houses
[1:11:10] selling for pretty big dollars in this
town that would never have sold that way
[1:11:13] four years ago so it really has come to
a point where um I think it's really
[1:11:18] great that I see people in this audience
I see nodding when I was going through
[1:11:21] the presentation or getting on board
with the program um that really is doing
[1:11:25] the right thing by our residents and as
you know public policy takes a little
[1:11:29] bit to get through uh in the end you end
up with a good a good policy and a good
[1:11:33] program so thank you Mr Mayor and thank
you Council for letting me serve thank
[1:11:36] you thank you uh next up is executive
session uh and we'll take um just a
[1:11:44] short recess before we go into executive
session because I know there's some
[1:11:47] questions out in the audience that if
counil wants to entertain them so if we
[1:11:50] just we'll take I'll take a motion for
executive session and then about
[1:11:54] 10-minute recess and then we'll go into
that yep go ahead thank you mayor I move
[1:11:59] we move to Executive session for pending
litigation and imminent Court action
[1:12:02] I'll second that motion thank you we'll
call the RO please Harris yes Kurt yes
[1:12:08] linebach yes nen yes poen Burger yes
Barrow yes biscuits yes okay we'll
[1:12:14] recess for a little bit and um and uh if
anybody wants to come up or ask
[1:12:18] questions feel
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[1:32:16] I'm bet not okay we'll take a motion to
um exit executive session in a second
[1:32:22] yes so moved
I'll second that motion call the
[1:32:27] rule that was John and Phil first yes
okay um Harris yes per yes Lineback yes
[1:32:34] Nan yes puffenberger yes Barrow yes
viscus yes and a motion to adjourn till
[1:32:40] next regularly scheduled meeting thank
you I'd like to make a motion to adjourn
[1:32:43] to the next regularly scheduled meeting
thank you mayor McDonald second motion
[1:32:48] then we'll call the RO Harris yes Kur
yes Lineback yes Newton yes hffg yes
[1:32:53] Barrow yes that's good yes and motion's
carried thank you