1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:03,150 It is 5.30 and it's time to begin our meeting tonight. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:30,140 This meeting of the Americana Regional Planning Commission as well, May 27th, our first item of agenda is the approval of the agenda. Have any of the changes to the agenda that need to be made? Is there a motion? Make a motion. Motion to approve it is a second. Second? And a second. All in favor say aye. All right. 3 00:00:30,140 --> 00:00:40,880 post no agenda is established. Approval of April 28th meeting. Make it motion. 4 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,740 Motion to amend, 5 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:52,840 okay. To show the Mike Diaz was present on April 28th. Mike Diaz was 6 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,660 not included as that as a change that he was here. If that's correct, I assume it to be. 7 00:00:58,660 --> 00:01:01,140 Any other changes or comments? 8 00:01:03,650 --> 00:01:08,990 Motion. Prove with the amendment. Second. 9 00:01:10,350 --> 00:01:12,450 Stacy. All in close to I. 10 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:16,750 Minutes are approved as amended. 11 00:01:19,540 --> 00:01:20,520 Our first order of 12 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:28,940 business is item number four. Concrete batch plan. This is seven. 13 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Okay. So stay serious, clearing up possible conflict ventures. We don't have to dissipate 14 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,160 in the meeting on this item, huh? 15 00:01:49,460 --> 00:01:50,580 What did I call you? 16 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:59,720 I'm Jim, by the way. All right. 17 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:07,940 Any comments on the final site plan that you need to ask 18 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:09,440 I was a staff we 19 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:25,750 knew it fan I know what you had on your mind 20 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:31,130 Any question to come into the staff on this item 21 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:33,230 I was a staff 22 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Staff on the 23 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,800 Landscape plan 24 00:02:41,540 --> 00:02:42,840 That is not included 25 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,360 On a final site plan on a commercial property 26 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:54,390 Our industrial isn't landscape plans required for our doctor. 27 00:03:01,810 --> 00:03:05,690 Staff, we'll 28 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,180 hold that question in the back of the present time, but we'll get it answered. 29 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:18,360 Now, it was applicant here, 30 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,300 would you like to make any comments, sir? 31 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Chairman, members of the planning commission, my name is Gary Whitaker, and I'm with Griggs 32 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,260 and Lonnie. 33 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:39,260 I also have the engineer here, Mr. Carter's broadband here with me tonight, also try to answer 34 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:39,880 any questions. 35 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:47,560 in regards to the landscape plan, nothing was brought up about that or to our attention. 36 00:03:48,220 --> 00:03:49,300 Had it been, we would have dressed. 37 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,420 Yes, sir. 38 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:53,810 Any questions, applicant? 39 00:03:56,220 --> 00:03:56,680 Yes, sir. 40 00:03:57,340 --> 00:03:57,680 Go ahead. 41 00:04:04,790 --> 00:04:10,700 In your notes regarding the way out the way. 42 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:16,450 Well, let me ask you a question while I was writing on Robert. 43 00:04:20,230 --> 00:04:25,070 The Pupin Hollow Method to Joe Pup met using what's the criteria for that? 44 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:27,270 And maybe that's a question I need to ask the staff. 45 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:32,110 I'll be happy to try to answer the question. 46 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:32,650 Go ahead, answer. 47 00:04:33,230 --> 00:04:37,610 If you get the state will allow a pump and haul on certain 48 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:44,290 circumstances, typically on, say, for batch plants, 49 00:04:44,290 --> 00:04:48,410 especially they're located adjacent to rock quarries that 50 00:04:48,410 --> 00:04:52,790 type of uses, it's understandable that there's no suitable 51 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:54,870 will solve for a septic system. 52 00:04:55,530 --> 00:04:58,350 In that case, you can apply it to the state 53 00:04:58,350 --> 00:05:00,950 once you have a soil site just to go out and prove 54 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:04,610 that there is no soil on the site to put in a drip system. 55 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:08,070 The next step is to make application to the state 56 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:09,870 at Tennessee for a pump and all. 57 00:05:10,430 --> 00:05:12,850 Basically what they do is they put a tank on site. 58 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:14,890 There'll be a thousand gallon tank on site 59 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:18,950 that the product would go into and then they would actually 60 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:19,870 have it pumped out. 61 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:20,670 Okay, 62 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,100 then it would be pumped out and for that application at the state you have to have 63 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:33,380 a signed agreement with the pump and haul company that will do that. 64 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,820 You also have to have a signed agreement with the city that is receiving that material 65 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:42,220 where it's pumped out and it will be processed. 66 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:47,040 The state also has a 30-day waiting period. 67 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,520 they have a public hearing on that. So anytime you do a pump and haul permit, it is a permit 68 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,980 that is obtained by the state of Tennessee. 69 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:59,620 In any limitations on how much effort you can pump and haul? 70 00:06:00,340 --> 00:06:03,680 Typically they will look and that's part of the application. You have to tell them the number 71 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:12,640 employees and me people will be on the side and just to look at the sizing and the use of that. 72 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:16,720 They're very limited and where they'll let you do it. And like I said, it's typically 73 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,000 and ears that don't have soil size. 74 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Do you have a contract with this pump and hull company? 75 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,220 We have actually submitted that application 76 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:27,880 to the state for this site. 77 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:29,140 Okay, so the answer is no. 78 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,940 We don't have the permit yet. 79 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,340 No, sir, we're waiting on there. 80 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,520 I'm going to go through their time period. 81 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:37,260 You read, 82 00:06:44,510 --> 00:06:44,650 huh? 83 00:06:44,890 --> 00:06:45,490 We need the microphone. 84 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:46,770 It's like a wireless wireless on here. 85 00:06:47,530 --> 00:06:49,450 There's somebody hit the microphone over there for. 86 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:52,810 We can't be working on the computer things to try 87 00:06:55,340 --> 00:06:56,280 to do the death of one. 88 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:57,120 Okay. 89 00:06:57,620 --> 00:06:58,560 Well, we'll just go to that. 90 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:00,080 No problem. 91 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,380 No problem. 92 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Yes. 93 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:09,180 In your design, you say that there's going to be three employees at this site. 94 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:13,560 How many off-site truck drivers are you going to have at this site? 95 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:21,540 If I'm not mistaken, there's eight parking spaces for the trucks and they typically come 96 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:27,920 man in the morning are get the trucks head out. So are they going to park? 97 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,860 Is your employee levels 11 and my numbers are 7-3? 98 00:07:33,980 --> 00:07:36,220 That's a good question. Hang on just a minute. 99 00:07:55,070 --> 00:07:55,570 And you are? 100 00:07:55,970 --> 00:08:01,690 I just brought it with Griggs and Meloney. So the truck parking was provided by Scott 101 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:05,950 Nichols, which is the owner of the concrete batch plant that's going to be going there. 102 00:08:05,950 --> 00:08:12,570 I am I so as far as the number of trucks that it's understood that those 103 00:08:12,570 --> 00:08:16,890 truck parking may be just for queuing, you know, to pick up items not not really 104 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:20,070 stay the entire time. That's the understanding at least. 105 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:24,570 But a concrete batch plant, your trucks are parked there at night, your employees have 106 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:30,150 to drive to the site, park their personal vehicles, in a parking lot, get in the 107 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:34,010 concrete trucks that have a parking space and for staging, and then leave the 108 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:41,530 I don't see anywhere in your site plan, parking, allocated for those numbers of truck drivers. 109 00:08:42,270 --> 00:08:43,970 So it's a little tough to see. 110 00:08:44,130 --> 00:08:44,970 I think on sheet. 111 00:08:47,150 --> 00:08:47,830 Yes, sir. 112 00:08:48,110 --> 00:08:48,490 Thank you. 113 00:08:49,270 --> 00:08:52,030 Number 15 states it would be mixer parking. 114 00:08:52,830 --> 00:08:53,470 And so- 115 00:08:53,470 --> 00:08:54,450 Right, it's with the truck's park. 116 00:08:54,950 --> 00:08:58,090 But where do the truck drivers personal vehicles park? 117 00:08:59,710 --> 00:09:08,270 Well, we can show it if you need it, but typically, I mean, we've got lots of open area that the entire site is 118 00:09:08,270 --> 00:09:16,190 acoustic gravel. So we can show places where, you know, those personal vehicles have been parked. There's lots of open areas. 119 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:21,710 So I think that's important for our final site plan to designate where your employee parking is going to be for the correct 120 00:09:21,710 --> 00:09:25,970 number of employees because you are going to have additional employees in what you're playing states. 121 00:09:25,970 --> 00:09:29,630 Those are final site plan cards, I just want to make sure that we allocate for that. 122 00:09:29,930 --> 00:09:35,870 It'll also affect your total disturbance area, because you have to have parking either paved, 123 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:42,990 concrete, DBST, something, rather than gravel parking areas for our zoning ordinance. 124 00:09:45,650 --> 00:09:48,950 Okay, interesting, it's concrete plan should be pretty easy to accomplish that. 125 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,520 All right, storage of materials. 126 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,480 I couldn't really clearly tell. 127 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,440 Well, I see where Rutherford Creek is and I see our 128 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,000 topos bringing us up to this in the protected tree area. 129 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:07,640 I just want to ensure that your storage of dry materials 130 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,760 is not in any floodplain areas, that correct? 131 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:11,980 It is correct. 132 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:13,120 You are correct, yes. 133 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:13,320 Okay. 134 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,980 I just want to make sure it does look like you're parking. 135 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,240 The mixture truck parking kind of gets into some of the 136 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:19,800 floodplain. 137 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Just kind of keep that in mind. 138 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,640 Of course, right along the edge, it looks like it's getting 139 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,460 real close to it. 140 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,540 Next question we've got is there going to be a gates on this property, is this a gated facility? 141 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,040 Not my understanding, they'll have a gate on it. 142 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,920 So no gates at all, so the fire department will have full access to your. 143 00:10:40,340 --> 00:10:41,880 It is my understanding, yes sir. 144 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,160 Okay, to circle around. 145 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:51,440 On your batch office, thank you for doing a good job on the ADA, and showing the design of 146 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,260 that in your ramps, but what I don't see is I don't see a set of stairs. 147 00:10:55,260 --> 00:11:01,980 So are all your employees going to be utilizing the ADA ramps, or are you going to be adding a set of stairs 148 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,640 down from your doorway down to the site as well? 149 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,440 I would assume with just elevation difference that probably just used the ramp. 150 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:16,000 With a three-foot elevation difference, you only think they're going to climb the set of stairs to get into the... 151 00:11:16,940 --> 00:11:20,060 I mean, they could use that if need, we can add a ramp. 152 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,160 I just add stairs. 153 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:24,780 Just a set of stairs shown on here to include railings conforming with the ramp. 154 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:30,160 You know, that item would be something I'd like to see on here as well, just to make sure that we're. 155 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:36,510 And then the last thing is on your septic tank, assuming that you get approval for your pump and hole. 156 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:46,530 Is that a drive rated tank and lid, or are those the prizes in your detail as does state that it's a plastic housing for your two foot extensions? 157 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:54,450 I think that would need to be a concrete housing or a metal risers on that, not a plastic risers. 158 00:11:54,450 --> 00:12:00,630 Okay, and it was sure that's right right and again, I could be wrong it's there's a there's a note on the plan that 159 00:12:01,230 --> 00:12:05,830 Specifies that it's traffic rated lead. Right. I just want to make sure the risers were it says plastic 160 00:12:05,830 --> 00:12:07,250 I think that this needs to be changed 161 00:12:07,890 --> 00:12:11,030 And so whatever approvals we have I just think these are 162 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:18,750 Some stipulations we need to have put on this final plot before we can truly approve it in addition to the approval for this pump and hold 163 00:12:19,310 --> 00:12:22,850 Thank you 164 00:12:25,130 --> 00:12:25,810 Do you have a plan to do an answer? 165 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Landscape to us. 166 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,780 David, do you have something? 167 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:36,400 Hey, you got no, you can't get hot. 168 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:36,860 Okay. 169 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:37,540 Sorry. 170 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,500 What was the landscaping rover that you just mentioned? 171 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,940 I didn't pick that up. 172 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:48,660 By the side of the plan, what was the landscaping plan? 173 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:49,400 Okay. 174 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,420 And then the... 175 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,480 I may be missing this, but I'm not actually seeing the gravel entry. 176 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,860 So I see the word gravel mentioned on the plans. 177 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:10,420 I see eros, I see some grading, I've got some existing asphalt. 178 00:13:11,260 --> 00:13:13,920 And I just see the word gravel and a water line. 179 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:21,220 But I actually am not quite sure the routing into this place and out of this place. 180 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,340 Is that on the plans or did that get a layer left off? 181 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,900 Or is it a sheet that I'm not connecting the dots to? 182 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,180 Yeah, we really didn't want to include a gravel hatch for the entire site because really the entire site is gravel. 183 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:49,360 It's a rock core, so I guess just to imagine that the entire entrance from Columbia rock product road, if you see that right there, everything after that would be gravel. 184 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,020 Okay, but you have a swell shown here with an existing burn. 185 00:13:55,580 --> 00:14:19,000 You're going to have to have some infrastructure to cross that swell at the, as you pass the fuel area, which by the way the fuel area doesn't have any specifications of containment or like normally you have a detail on that, but like coming from the existing asphalt, you do have a swell to get in here that you're going to have to cross. 186 00:14:21,790 --> 00:14:26,710 That is actually a higher point, instead of a lower point. 187 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:32,050 I know it's difficult to tell in this scale in these contours, but that is slightly higher. 188 00:14:33,850 --> 00:14:39,770 And I believe it's only two or three feet. 189 00:14:40,250 --> 00:14:42,170 That's not a condition you may think of. 190 00:14:42,190 --> 00:14:49,670 Yeah, and that's a swell because if you look at your 620 with the way that Teppo is drawn, that's not a high point. 191 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:55,630 that there is a berm but there is a swell that leads over to the other side of the berm and 192 00:14:55,630 --> 00:14:59,870 you can see it go along that berm all the way down. Additionally another 193 00:15:01,180 --> 00:15:29,980 Question that I think it would be good to identify the pathway that vehicles are going to travel, understanding that this is an orc gory. There is lots of rock, but identifying. And if you do plan to put a covert or something here that needs to be detailed, to cross that little area, the another comment that I had written was from a storm 194 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:44,620 perspective. So you got two existing berms that I could easily make out. You've got your emergency spill way. You've got your limits of disturbance, which I agree with the previous comment that that'll be expanded. 195 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:52,280 Am I missing the detention facility, you on sheet C2.2? 196 00:15:56,790 --> 00:16:00,570 I'm on 2.1. Let me get to 2.2. Okay, I'm on that page. 197 00:16:01,610 --> 00:16:06,630 So in the bottom left there, number 17 would be the sediment pond. 198 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,840 Okay, so that's for the, I thought that was a part of the whole. 199 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,900 Okay, thank you. Well, I had that as the part of the pump in. 200 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:28,960 And then same, same as staff comments, those are all my comments, sure. 201 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:32,240 Any other comments or questions? 202 00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:35,430 Huh? 203 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:38,860 The site plan. 204 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Landscape plan is required for a file site plan that is a condition of approval. 205 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:48,600 The site plan should be prepared by the register professional to include a certain letter. 206 00:16:48,740 --> 00:16:51,400 Landscape log take off, take land plan, or any name. 207 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:59,680 Okay. Okay. We also have a recommendation from staff that they cannot recommend approval 208 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:07,060 until the pump and hull permit is granted. So what is the pleasure of 209 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,420 commission? 210 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:15,940 We would just ask the AB condition of approval for the pump and hull permit to be approved 211 00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:18,220 before final site plan approval. 212 00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:27,690 We're talking about conditional approval, so we're on to what we're doing for it. 213 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:30,570 It's up to you all for a month, the injured approval. 214 00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:35,430 We will have to submit. 215 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:45,550 What we'd like to do is if we could address these items and basically have staff hold until 216 00:17:45,550 --> 00:17:49,970 we get a bond approval from the state for the pump and haul. 217 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,100 If you're comfortable with your recommendations, I don't know. 218 00:17:57,540 --> 00:18:01,500 As condition, do you feel like it ought to be brought back to us? 219 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:06,520 I feel like there's some big enough items that I would prefer to for all. 220 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:07,160 Okay. 221 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:09,000 I need a motion. 222 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:12,940 My conversion. 223 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:14,400 Well, wait. 224 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:18,000 If they can they request them? 225 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,060 Can they request them? 226 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:20,380 For all. 227 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:21,200 It's 228 00:18:23,340 --> 00:18:24,840 the first on the front of the agenda, right? 229 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:28,060 No, I don't know. 230 00:18:28,220 --> 00:18:30,220 Are there, are there way for this first one? 231 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,360 Would you all like to request the deferral? 232 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:35,820 Okay. 233 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:46,580 Is that what your deferral request is to be deferred to the next month? 234 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:51,040 Do you anticipate getting your state approval for your pump and haul by then? 235 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,360 We have to turn the end. 236 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:03,680 Have two three comments we've answered those at state level. 237 00:19:05,860 --> 00:19:08,160 There are requests that it's the next month, it's a payable. 238 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,660 They're requesting it deferral, it's the next meeting, so accept to you. 239 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,900 Make a motion to accept their deferral with their request. 240 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,900 And we'd like to include if we could a summary of the conditions that we have just 241 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:27,400 mentioned, four year records, so they're on records so that you have the notes to go back and get things taken care of. 242 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,420 So the first one, and David, I've got yours to add in here, if you make sure you're okay with this. 243 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 And anyone else on our commission feel free to add in. 244 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,240 But the first one is the staff notes on the pump and hull approval. 245 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:46,160 The second one is the required landscape plan that is required as a final site plan must be included. 246 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:53,860 I'd like to see personally some sort of a landscape buffer of theta pike as that is a road travel by the public. 247 00:19:55,940 --> 00:20:04,380 Number three is to address where your truck drivers are parking and how you're going to conform with that parking requirements. 248 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:15,280 adjustments, and adjusting your employee level on this storage of materials, we've answered 249 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:21,750 that one, remove that one, sorry, steps to the batch planted addition of the ADA rant, 250 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:28,180 confirming that the septic tank is drive rated, including the plastic risers, 251 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,480 and making 252 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,760 sure you've looked at your design for the soil crossing and design, that there's no other 253 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:44,360 item that's needed specifically around the landscape burn or whatever the burn is it's existing shown there I'm 254 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:49,230 not going to try to repeat the 255 00:20:50,110 --> 00:20:50,510 recommendation 256 00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:57,010 I'd like to I'd like to be clear if that 257 00:20:57,010 --> 00:21:02,170 Semetto is going to be all the corrections are going to be made it'll have to be submitted by then to this week 258 00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:06,470 May 30th is the deadline for the corrections for the June meeting 259 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:10,200 Yes, sir 260 00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:16,590 That's that's why I wanted to bring it to your attention 261 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,480 be July. 262 00:21:24,290 --> 00:21:27,690 So the request is for deferral until July is that correct? 263 00:21:27,850 --> 00:21:28,110 Yes, sir. 264 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:31,370 Is there a motion to accept this request for deferral until July? 265 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,560 Is there a second? 266 00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:36,000 Yes, sir. 267 00:21:37,660 --> 00:21:39,140 You have the information to need. 268 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:41,300 Any further comment? 269 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,460 All in favor say aye. 270 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:43,740 Opposed? 271 00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:43,960 No. 272 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:46,160 The deferral until July meeting. 273 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:46,740 Thank you. 274 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:48,060 We appreciate that, sir. 275 00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:48,620 Thank you, sir. 276 00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:53,540 Next item, recommendation for wastewater utilities to provide. 277 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:59,200 matter. Help me understand this. I know what we have to talk about to do, but this 278 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:04,320 is a function of the county commission rather than us. So our action is a recommendation 279 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:12,600 to the county commission. Okay. This is what you all have the paperwork before you 280 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,840 is. The applicant here is having a question to staff. Applicant here, you 281 00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:21,250 want to make 282 00:22:21,250 --> 00:22:22,390 short statement. 283 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:27,880 My name is Matt Nix. 284 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:31,580 I'm the president of Edge wastewater LLC. 285 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:36,020 We are making a request to become a wastewater provider in Murray County. 286 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:43,120 We've been asked by a number of different parties about being the wastewater provider. 287 00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:50,380 We not only design, build, operate wastewater treatment plants, but 288 00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:53,940 But we also are a public utility through the Tennessee Public Utilities Commission. 289 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:58,700 We're just asking for recommendation for this to go to the next level. 290 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,220 Anyone have any questions, applicant? 291 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Go ahead motion. 292 00:23:11,010 --> 00:23:13,730 Make sure it needs to be in the form of recommendations of the County Commission. 293 00:23:14,030 --> 00:23:15,050 Question for the applicant, sir. 294 00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:16,710 You made the motion? 295 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:19,410 No, I make a request, a question for the applicant. 296 00:23:21,930 --> 00:23:28,070 So in previous meetings in this planning commission, we've heard multiple times about private companies such as yourselves. 297 00:23:28,670 --> 00:23:33,550 And the failure rate, according to the state of Tennessee, isn't TDAQ. 298 00:23:33,710 --> 00:23:36,830 What is your current failure rate if you don't mind me asking of your current systems? 299 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:39,050 We have no failure rates at this point. 300 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:40,690 How long do you move into business? 301 00:23:41,230 --> 00:23:45,890 We started edge in January 29th, 2025. 302 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:47,690 So it's just a few months old. 303 00:23:48,550 --> 00:23:49,110 Thank you, sir. 304 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,380 Go ahead. 305 00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:57,720 How many systems have you installed? 306 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,920 How many systems have you installed since January or how many are operating? 307 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:09,260 We are not operating any currently. We have four under design and we're about to go into construction with one right now. 308 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:10,840 Okay, thank you. 309 00:24:11,020 --> 00:24:11,720 Yes, ma'am. 310 00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:19,890 Any further questions? Comments? Motion? 311 00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:24,130 What? 312 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:34,730 Motion for a positive recommendation to the county commission. 313 00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:42,430 Second by Mike. Any further questions? Comments? Ready to vote? All in favor say aye. 314 00:24:42,430 --> 00:24:44,370 All opposed? 315 00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:44,690 No. 316 00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:46,370 One no. 317 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,300 Motion carries. 318 00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:51,240 Thank you. 319 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:08,050 Next item is a five-site plan for a five-a-hub expansion in District 10, you know, around 320 00:25:08,050 --> 00:25:08,470 Memphis. 321 00:25:08,890 --> 00:25:10,050 Pleasant off in New Orleans. 322 00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:11,510 Mark Berg highway. 323 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:14,790 Any questions on the staff on this item? 324 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:15,490 Yes, sir. 325 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:16,550 Go ahead. 326 00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:50,950 Staff, when an applicant is presented with the information of what they're to provide to us as a member of the Planning Commission do we not specifically specify the size of the documents that are to be for us to be reviewed because the size that I reviewed, unfortunately, I've got almost 50 year old eyes and they're hard to read this doesn't seem to be what we accept as a standard and we have deferred items before. 327 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:52,870 more for this in the past. 328 00:25:53,890 --> 00:25:57,650 We have had comments about rebuilds this several times. 329 00:25:57,830 --> 00:26:00,710 I do not believe we have a standard sheet size. 330 00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:02,230 I believe we do. 331 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:06,280 It's in our notes specifically on the size. 332 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:11,040 We do on plants, metals, side plant stuff, it's just kind of, 333 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,580 there's, I don't see a requirement with the smittled on site plants. 334 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,980 But if it's in the eligible, I mean legible to the planning commission members, 335 00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,440 that child's property. 336 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:26,280 So at site plan, we do not have a required size. 337 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:29,180 No, not that I can recall. 338 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:32,440 Can we add that to our agenda tonight for other business, please? 339 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,140 I have a certain text. 340 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:39,340 Any further questions you have? 341 00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:42,130 Not for the staff. 342 00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:43,950 Well, second thing. 343 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:48,910 Did you see a landscape plan anywhere in this packet? 344 00:26:53,310 --> 00:26:57,850 It is a requirement of our site plan to have a landscape plan, correct? 345 00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:57,890 Okay. 346 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Yes. 347 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Okay. 348 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,020 It is not complete. 349 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:12,490 Anything further? 350 00:27:12,670 --> 00:27:13,370 You have a staff? 351 00:27:13,410 --> 00:27:13,810 Anybody? 352 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:15,650 You the developer? 353 00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:22,670 My name is Adam Simon, and I'm representing Raymaker, the engineering firm in charge and site 354 00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:22,790 there. 355 00:27:22,790 --> 00:27:23,710 You want to make any comment? 356 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:26,870 No, sir. 357 00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:28,690 Huh? 358 00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:29,530 No, sir. 359 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:36,840 I don't want to have any questions of this gentleman. 360 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:37,420 Yes, sir. 361 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,340 Go ahead. 362 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:38,920 All 363 00:27:41,770 --> 00:27:46,310 right, first of all, in the future, give me a bigger set of plans, please. 364 00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:55,310 Critical for me to see, this is an existing site that you're putting an additional building behind the existing site. 365 00:27:55,910 --> 00:28:06,730 And I'm seeing a 37 feet space, my question is how are you going to be bringing in this thermal bond shelter becoming on semi trucks? 366 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:08,850 I believe so, yes. 367 00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:13,930 How are you going to be turning the semi-trucks around when you're delivering this on this site? 368 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:15,730 How are you going to get in and out of this site? 369 00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:20,630 How are you going to do this without obstructing and creating a safety hazard on 431? 370 00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:29,150 That is a good question and- 371 00:28:29,150 --> 00:28:30,510 43, sorry. 372 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:38,650 That is a good question, I will take that back under advisement. 373 00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:46,150 And I believe there is an access drive, not sure about a turnaround area for some of those. 374 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:50,330 So that's where I'm concerned about is how you can get a semi truck in here and unload it. 375 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:53,990 Set your building in a safely environment and not have it sit on the highway. 376 00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:58,110 If you are going to do it on the highway, I'd like to know what you're doing as far as the lane closure plan. 377 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:01,850 From a fire department perspective, this becomes a life safety issue. 378 00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:04,970 I don't want to be out there working erect because of your construction of this project. 379 00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:07,070 I think that's a failure in your site plan. 380 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:11,910 Number two is I don't see a proper access for the fire department. 381 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:18,450 There's nothing here regarding nox blocks or how I'm going to gain access to this site, especially as you add additional things. 382 00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:23,770 It just needs to have a letter from Chief Peru regarding how he would like to have fire access. 383 00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:26,810 Again, it could be a nox box, it could be a call system, it can be. 384 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:33,930 There's lots of different options that Chief Peru allow you to utilize, but we do need to make sure we've got fire department access to this. 385 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:36,490 and then also fire department turnaround. 386 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:40,090 I feel like you're 37 feet is not large enough. 387 00:29:40,790 --> 00:29:43,530 I would like to see you add a truck turnaround 388 00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:47,690 on either side of where you've got your proposed 389 00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:48,470 new construction. 390 00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:50,410 It just would make sense for you to have 391 00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:51,710 while you're doing the fencing 392 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:54,830 and doing everything else is to put something in there 393 00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:57,370 that you can safely turn a truck around in. 394 00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:59,970 Whether it's a fire truck or... 395 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:12,200 Anything you have plenty of space to do that on this. And so due to those things and the landscape plan not being included in this packet, I cannot vote in favor of this packet tonight. 396 00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:45,160 I would like to add Chairman if the applicant so wishes like previous one he could request 397 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:55,420 deferment to these issues are addressed that's his right that's how I'll have I would 398 00:30:55,420 --> 00:31:00,260 I'd like to request that if we could as well defer until July. 399 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,940 A question from the applicant to defer until July. 400 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,940 Most to accept that deferral. 401 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:14,500 Second here. 402 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,600 With the specific items I just previously mentioned for you to work upon. 403 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:19,640 All in favor say aye. 404 00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:21,360 I vote no. 405 00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:23,080 Thanks sir. 406 00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:23,880 Appreciate you. 407 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Chairman, I'd like to make a correction. I did find a site plan requirement, scale 1 to 200 foot to an inch, no smaller than 200 foot to 1 inch. 408 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:45,190 20 is $200 for a quaint, that's the smallest thing. 409 00:31:46,650 --> 00:31:47,230 That's too small. 410 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:48,870 That's still small? 411 00:31:51,270 --> 00:31:52,810 That's hard to leave, it's $200. 412 00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:56,210 All right, but that's what it says, what it says. 413 00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:59,050 Item next item, on the end of the... 414 00:32:00,130 --> 00:32:01,130 It picks that. 415 00:32:01,470 --> 00:32:03,750 It is a 2.0's, Murray County Church. 416 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,400 We'll be here on Keaton Road. 417 00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:12,750 Any questions of the staff on this one? 418 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,340 There's an applicant here. 419 00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:22,080 Tell us your name and details. 420 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:26,660 Jack Parker with Catalyst Design Group, Civil Engineer. 421 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,420 Any comments you'd like to make? 422 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,940 No, sir. 423 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:34,760 All right. 424 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,080 Any question anyone has of the applicant? 425 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:42,390 The office staff. 426 00:32:43,550 --> 00:32:44,050 Oh, the applicant. 427 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Mr. Chairman. 428 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:48,900 Anyone? 429 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,740 Yes, sir. 430 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:52,900 You've got three minutes. 431 00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:00,380 All right. First item is thank you, sir, for including a landscape plan. There's, unfortunately, you didn't include any landscape on it. 432 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:12,140 Your landscape plan only states seed and straw for the entire site. So you don't have any intentions of landscaping this in any shape frame or fashion for your L-1.0. 433 00:33:19,550 --> 00:33:25,270 The final site plan should be prepared by Registral Professional to include survey or landscape 434 00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:27,930 architect architect land planner or engineer. 435 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:34,090 Any of those are registered professionals that can't submit the site plan without developmental 436 00:33:34,090 --> 00:33:39,790 standards around those specific uses and landscape buffer requirements and stuff. 437 00:33:39,790 --> 00:33:47,750 I mean, it's, we're kind of, and no man's land is from history, so just so you know, 438 00:33:47,910 --> 00:33:50,530 planning commission does have the purview of landscape, correct? 439 00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:51,230 That is correct. 440 00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:51,990 Thank you, sir. 441 00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:54,790 Do you intend to do any landscaping? 442 00:33:57,930 --> 00:33:59,590 We're intending to do what's on the plan. 443 00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:01,230 I wasn't aware there wasn't actual landscape. 444 00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:04,890 So L1.0 shows nothing at all. 445 00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:07,390 It specifically shows seed and straw. 446 00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:10,890 I think that definitely needs some improvement. 447 00:34:27,340 --> 00:34:47,100 I do not see anything in here showing approval for two road connections, size of them, no stop bars, two-way traffic, no plan at all on this for safe ingress and egress of the site. 448 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,920 or design at all regarding that. 449 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,280 It shows a 24 foot entrance, but no wings, no stop bars, no stop signs, nothing. 450 00:34:57,540 --> 00:35:01,200 And so without that information, I can't vote in favor of this. 451 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:08,740 And I also do not see in here anything regarding a fire review, fire department review, access 452 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:16,940 to the new church, is the building going to be sprinkled, is it going to be all these 453 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:20,460 things from an occupancy standpoint and a fire department review. 454 00:35:21,460 --> 00:35:26,680 And so with those omissions, I want to make a motion, Mr. Chairman, for denial tonight. 455 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,860 Based upon these items, or deferral depending on the will of the commission. 456 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,660 We'd like to request deferral with, like the other applicants have. 457 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,860 You're more than welcome to do that. 458 00:35:42,860 --> 00:35:43,260 July. 459 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,460 And that is your right. I would like to add without water availability letter. The next 460 00:35:52,460 --> 00:36:00,480 go around the staff will probably name this substantially incomplete and that building will have to 461 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,160 have some type of fire flows if not just hydrant. So if it doesn't have the occupant load to just 462 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,800 fire the sprinkler system, it will have to support a hydrant from the utility. 463 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,000 We did add a hydrant. 464 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,340 Okay, I saw on the demolition that there was a hydrant that was going to be demolished, 465 00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:23,260 but I never knew of one, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention. 466 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,800 Gotcha. 467 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:27,340 Yeah, we're now calling for a new fire hydrant. 468 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:29,380 Top of it. 469 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:39,700 I would suggest that you get our requirements and go come in detail as you before you bring 470 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:49,020 get back to us and make sure you've got everything. It's required. Okay. The request is for 471 00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:56,100 deferral until July. Is that correct? Correct. Motion to accept. Motion to accept. 472 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:59,580 12, is there a second of that? Second? Second? Second about it. 473 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,320 All in favor, say aye. 474 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,780 Opposed, no. 475 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:06,920 Thanks, sir. 476 00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:08,240 Okay, 477 00:37:17,630 --> 00:37:19,910 we have a final plat on three lights, 478 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:26,630 on Williams Fort and Williams Fort, Tennessee. 479 00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:33,290 Any questions on this that you have to ask because of the staff? Is the applicant here? 480 00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:39,550 The staff will. Go ahead. 481 00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:43,990 Plan size, staff, or this is one to 100, is that correct? 482 00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:46,410 So this plot is the correct size. 483 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:53,830 Thank you, and then do you see anything, staff, that he's mentioned or 484 00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:58,550 talked about regarding the remaining area of the 10.03 acres, and 485 00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:02,870 how they're going to have access to that and the flag shaped remaining parcels. 486 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:06,230 Did you receive anything on that access? 487 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,900 Yes, they didn't receive anything on it. 488 00:38:14,260 --> 00:38:18,060 It may be flagged shape, but it's not a flag as we define it. 489 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,240 Right. 490 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:19,660 Okay. 491 00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:23,470 That's it for staff, Mr. Chair. 492 00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:23,690 Okay. 493 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:28,590 About 10 acres left, is that correct after you take these three lots out? 494 00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:29,050 Yes. 495 00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:29,590 Okay. 496 00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:32,930 Any questions of the applicant? 497 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:37,900 Mr. Chair. 498 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,500 Okay. 499 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:38,940 Go ahead. 500 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:40,940 A lot, too. 501 00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:46,600 You've got a benchmark symbol with no information on that meant to be a benchmark there. 502 00:38:53,770 --> 00:38:58,310 That's my survey control monument, so I show them on my survey plate. 503 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,510 You need to label it or? 504 00:39:02,130 --> 00:39:02,890 It's in the legend. 505 00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:03,510 Okay. 506 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:10,610 I would like to also point out this is a four-lot subdivision to for clarity and not three 507 00:39:10,610 --> 00:39:10,830 lots. 508 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:14,810 Did you identify your chef's purpose of? 509 00:39:15,050 --> 00:39:18,310 I'm a corp you, the land surveyor for essential land survey and it happened. 510 00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:25,510 Okay. Okay. Thank you. Any further questions? Come in. Anyone? Motion? 511 00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:27,390 I'll give motion to a second. 512 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:29,630 Motion to approve. Is there a second? 513 00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:30,790 I have a question. 514 00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:31,710 Is there a second? 515 00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:33,050 Motion to approve. Is there a second? 516 00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:34,230 Second for discussion. 517 00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:35,810 I'll take care of him later. 518 00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:36,470 Second for discussion. 519 00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:37,590 I'll cut a second up here. 520 00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:39,350 Now, we have a motion on the floor to approve. 521 00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:40,690 You have him, come in. 522 00:39:40,990 --> 00:39:41,290 Yes, sir. 523 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:41,830 Go ahead. 524 00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:43,770 The remaining ten acres. 525 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:47,430 How do you intend in the future access behind? 526 00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:52,250 It has over two hundred feet of road finding along the south side of lot four 527 00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:59,450 So that'll be for future development future. It's got an existing house on it. It's it's it's own power 528 00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:05,710 So it's like I said, it's over 200 foot of road frontage of 10 acres. So it's never made a single family for far as I'm aware 529 00:40:05,710 --> 00:40:11,390 Yes, okay, and then just in the confirm. I see you've got it noted in your plot. Thank you 530 00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:16,150 So the Murray County Highway Department now has a standard that you're right away 531 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:18,770 Okay, shall be paid to concrete or asphalt. 532 00:40:18,970 --> 00:40:20,250 You've got that in there's no number three, 533 00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:24,210 so you're fully aware of those requirements. 534 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:26,610 Thank you, sir. 535 00:40:27,490 --> 00:40:28,930 Any other questions or comments? 536 00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:31,910 Are you all ready to vote? 537 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:32,550 Yes, sir. 538 00:40:32,890 --> 00:40:33,830 All in favor say aye. 539 00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:35,410 Opposed, no. 540 00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:36,910 Thank you, sir. 541 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,120 But look, somebody won't speak. 542 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,500 I'm number nine, two lots on called Windy Acres. 543 00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:56,760 on Joe P. 544 00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:02,840 Rowley. Any 545 00:41:05,110 --> 00:41:07,510 questions of staff on this item? 546 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:08,430 Yes, sir. 547 00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:09,730 Go ahead. 548 00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:15,760 Staff, I have the opportunity to speak with Todd Schultz from Mary County Water this 549 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,340 afternoon. 550 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,200 I think your notes you made it applicant is not submit a water letter of availability. 551 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:26,720 Todd Schultz has stated that they have already confirmed and have already made the tap. 552 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:31,240 It's already been paid for and the tap is completed and is noted on the survey where that 553 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:36,400 existing water tap is, and so I want to know are we allowed to conditionally approve 554 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,460 this, with a verbal approval of Todd Schultz. 555 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,760 If Todd Schultz has sold water tap on this property, the water is available. 556 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,120 Yes, sir. 557 00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:50,860 The water is more than available of this and the tap is already there. 558 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,340 It's in place. 559 00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:52,620 It's just waiting for the meter to be set. 560 00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:53,680 We can operate with that. 561 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,840 I believe we need to make that a condition of approval. 562 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,320 Condition of approval. 563 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,340 That's great. 564 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:02,160 Any other questions? 565 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:02,920 No, sir. 566 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,440 Is there a motion? 567 00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:05,380 I'm making motion. 568 00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:06,580 Motion what? 569 00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:09,220 Approved with that condition. 570 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,800 Is there a little bit of second? 571 00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:13,080 In the second? 572 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:13,860 I can say it. 573 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,220 All in favor say aye. 574 00:42:15,460 --> 00:42:15,700 Aye. 575 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,640 Opposed no. 576 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,620 Item number 10. 577 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,960 Warren Creek. 578 00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:29,570 I'm going to give you a second. 579 00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:31,550 Clear there for a bit here. 580 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:32,590 Any 581 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,480 questions of the applicant concerning Lawrence Creek of the staff, I'm sorry. 582 00:42:53,220 --> 00:43:02,680 Staff in the previous review of this plaque, do we not discuss connectivity to the adjoining 583 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,460 property owners? 584 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:07,140 Because I do not see any signs of connectivity on this. 585 00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:14,200 I do appreciate them too, a group of giving us a very detailed list of conditions of all 586 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,780 All things that we did talk about, but I do not see that on here, and for some reason 587 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:19,600 I cut us horned. 588 00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:23,620 That was something that we had discussed previously, and it was just curious if staff remembers 589 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:29,280 or can think of anything regarding that, because I was surprised that we did not see connectivity 590 00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:33,440 to the south and to the west of this property. 591 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:54,260 I don't recall that conversation I had last January at the concept I believe was the first 592 00:43:54,260 --> 00:44:02,620 Yes, that's Danielle's position is future connectivity, so with the code aside, temporary 593 00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:04,280 as it may be constructed fully. 594 00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:05,280 Yes, sir. 595 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,600 Thank you. 596 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,840 Any other questions on the staff? 597 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,280 Staff could hear. 598 00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:20,270 Would you like to make any – identify yourself for us if you would? 599 00:44:20,730 --> 00:44:21,170 Good evening. 600 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:22,650 Kevin Boen with M2 Group. 601 00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:28,090 Depending on the nature of the question, I have some other folks here with me and I feel 602 00:44:28,090 --> 00:44:29,630 like we got a really complete package here. 603 00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:33,590 If there's any questions, we're definitely here to answer anything regarding the project. 604 00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:39,970 Before we get into questions from him, I've got several people who would like to speak. 605 00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:45,170 Let's go ahead and hear them, so any comments are worthy of our consideration that we have there. 606 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:55,390 So the several people who signed up to speak on this item come forward, come to my, identify 607 00:44:55,390 --> 00:44:56,110 yourself. 608 00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:58,210 and I want to speak. 609 00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:10,520 My name is Tommy Woolver. I live at 998 South Cross Bridges Road, Mount Pleasant. 610 00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:14,740 I'm sorry, sir. 611 00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:33,580 I've been before you all before on this situation. I would urge you to vote no on this proposal. I have four or four. 612 00:45:33,580 --> 00:45:42,000 five reasons why I hear number one is water. I don't believe this project has 613 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:48,090 the necessary amount of water to support these homes. Number two is sewage and 614 00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:53,280 I understand they're going to have some kind of septic system where they do not 615 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,920 have septic tanks and I've seen all over this country where these things have 616 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:08,780 failed and I would highly recommend that you not allow that. Number three is the road 617 00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:19,820 at South Cross bridges is narrow and the traffic out there is predominantly rural with a number 618 00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:26,520 of farmers who use that roadway. I'm going to say that during this summer there will be 619 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:34,220 at least hundreds of tractors, combines, et cetera, et cetera, running up and down that road 620 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:43,420 and there's just not room for that many cars. Next is the present home owners on South Cross 621 00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:50,820 Bridges Road were told when they bought and built their homes that there would be one acre lots 622 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:57,640 and there are except in some exceptions on the far end after you make the 90 degree 623 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:06,400 turn there are some two acre lots however the people who bought the one acre homes 624 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:12,580 were told that there would not be smaller lots than one acre. 625 00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:17,660 The last thing I 626 00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:26,760 I have to tell you, is I believe that it would devalue the property owners of South Cross bridges road. 627 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,560 If you put in this number of houses out there on that road. 628 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,500 And I thank you for your time this evening. 629 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:35,360 Thank you. 630 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:36,040 Thank you. 631 00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:37,900 Anyone else? 632 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:38,760 Yes, sir. 633 00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:49,100 Good evening, I'm Greg Lewandowski, I own 955 South Cross bridges road, building off of this, off of what Mr. 634 00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:49,780 Wolver said. 635 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,460 This is an attempt by the builder to skirt the agreement that was made when the Perry's Place project went in. 636 00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:05,000 This is a new name trying to ask you to break a contract that you made when you agreed to the initial project, which was one acre lots, majority break construction. 637 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,780 It's not new, you have to be good to your word. 638 00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:15,560 2. The traffic study itself was wholly and unequivocably insufficient. It has no statistical 639 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,920 significance nor scientific relevance. It was three days and they were weekend days. 640 00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:28,840 You can't reasonably say this road can handle the influx of 200 to 300 more cars nor 43 641 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:34,580 at this intersection. Last time we spoke here we asked about the water. 642 00:48:34,580 --> 00:48:37,560 Mount Pleasant was losing 50% of its water in the transfer. 643 00:48:37,820 --> 00:48:40,600 No one has actually said to us that that's been fixed. 644 00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:44,940 Nor is Mount Pleasant come out and made any significant repairs to their water system during that time. 645 00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:50,200 Finally, this is a problem with the septic system. 646 00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:56,680 When you put a leach field where they're suggesting at the far end, you're risking people's wells. 647 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,020 You're also risking the county water supply with coliform bacteria. 648 00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:04,880 area. This is something that the builder or any waste water management company has spoke 649 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,160 to. We've watched this change many, many times. At this point, the concerns raised really 650 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,160 do put the county on notice. Are you going to be good to your word? Will you take into 651 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,680 account that the traffic study couldn't give you a 50% confidence interval? I could give 652 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,640 you a better study, flipping a coin on it times. And will you tell us that the water system 653 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,560 has been upgraded, you're going to require it and then should be good to your work. 654 00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:29,340 I leave it to you. 655 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,820 Mr. Anderson, thanks for allowing us to comment. 656 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,840 My name is George Vralis. 657 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:57,120 I own 1059 South Cross Bridge Road and I built 935 South Cross Bridge Road. 658 00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,860 These two lots are on opposite ends of each other. 659 00:50:01,460 --> 00:50:05,540 They are the first lot and the very last lot in the subdivision. 660 00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:11,160 and both of these houses have had major water problems. 661 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:16,940 When it rains there, the water that comes off of this farm is amazing. 662 00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:22,440 When we were starting this building project on 935 South Cross bridges road, 663 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,820 we started developing some issues early on. 664 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,300 When it rained, the water wouldn't go anywhere. 665 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,920 So I met with the county, I met with the engineers, 666 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,600 and we developed a huge pumping system to defer all that water with a two-inch 667 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,900 line pumping this water out to the road but it doesn't work when this when it 668 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:48,480 rains that pump fills up this is a huge well and the water goes up and the 669 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,460 alarm goes off and it stays constant until the waters go down but even after about 670 00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:59,260 a week or two of rain you can go out there and dig a two-foot three-foot hole 671 00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:05,620 You can hit water so there's something going on with the water table out there and I don't think it's just above surface water 672 00:51:05,620 --> 00:51:07,240 I think it's underground water 673 00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:12,200 So both my locations have had problems and both my lots are two acre lots out there 674 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,680 So I think that definitely needs to be looked at because as you add streets and rooftops 675 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,020 There's less places for that water to go 676 00:51:20,020 --> 00:51:26,120 But when you go and talk to the neighbors out there not just this property floods 677 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,600 but the house next door, that whole yard floods in the way that South Cross bridges is designed, 678 00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:37,920 that road kind of valleys, and so that valleys where all that water gathers, 679 00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:40,160 and there's just nowhere for it to go. 680 00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:45,980 Over on 10, 59 South Cross bridges road, when you see in their drawings, 681 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,660 they've got a creek that runs there. 682 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,800 And that's good because that water does have water problems in the front and the back. 683 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,880 Like it comes through the front and back like a river, but at least it doesn't stay there. 684 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,620 It goes over into that creek and so I don't think I'm going to have continued problem 685 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:04,600 with that property. 686 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,180 But in the past property, that house has had a lot of problems. 687 00:52:08,540 --> 00:52:13,840 Water getting underneath the crawl space, I mean, it's well graded, but it warped all the 688 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,580 floors. 689 00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:17,380 We had to go in there and resand all the floors for cupping. 690 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,420 So there's definitely water issues on this property that need to be dealt with. 691 00:52:22,420 --> 00:52:38,140 But I guess another concern I have is when we were buying these properties this was all part of Perry's place and that was that was part of Perry's place to and the restrictions that are on these properties to protect these neighborhoods. 692 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:51,940 I would just ask that they are applied to this section to because this is all combined all the homes in the front are already restricted and I would ask that these same homes follow the same restrictions. 693 00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:58,500 And if they follow the same restrictions and solve the water problems, I'm fine with this neighborhood coming in there. Thank you. 694 00:52:58,740 --> 00:52:59,500 Thank you, sir. 695 00:53:02,670 --> 00:53:03,210 Anyone else? 696 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,360 Mr. Trudello, Trudello, 697 00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:21,810 Simon's, Pugh, Pugh, I know this one. David Edwards, 698 00:53:25,350 --> 00:53:26,050 all right. 699 00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:37,560 I just said it was difficult for wheels to come back up and all 700 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,280 right, there are any questions of the development, 701 00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:51,600 go ahead. 702 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:51,700 But 703 00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:57,610 why do you not show connectivity to our joining properties? 704 00:54:00,030 --> 00:54:04,690 First, the discussion of the staff, if it was discussed at some point, it was not brought 705 00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:07,350 back up through that process, the resummental process. 706 00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:12,730 I don't think that there would be an issue, the connectivity that was kind of already connectivity 707 00:54:12,730 --> 00:54:18,450 at the end of last 23, 24, and the other one would be between 9 and 10, yes sir. 708 00:54:19,870 --> 00:54:20,770 So you're willing to? 709 00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:24,070 Yeah, I think that would be a condition we would be willing to accept. 710 00:54:24,730 --> 00:54:26,670 So that would be our first condition approval, okay. 711 00:54:27,850 --> 00:54:28,590 Thank you, sir. 712 00:54:30,210 --> 00:54:31,030 Anyone else? 713 00:54:31,530 --> 00:54:32,170 I'm Mr. Chairman. 714 00:54:32,490 --> 00:54:32,770 Go ahead. 715 00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:33,970 Is this property? 716 00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:35,450 Is this property survey? 717 00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:36,370 Yes, it was. 718 00:54:36,910 --> 00:54:42,830 I don't see anywhere where the surveyors could address or anything reference to that zone here. 719 00:54:45,250 --> 00:54:46,130 Oh, sorry. 720 00:54:46,590 --> 00:54:49,250 Yeah, I don't see anywhere on here where it's referenced in a surveyor. 721 00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:52,730 So without that, we're going to know that it will survey. 722 00:54:53,810 --> 00:54:59,590 And then also, on the TVA line, you're showing there's a hundred foot right away, but you're 723 00:54:59,590 --> 00:55:01,910 also showing that there's no deep book and page reference. 724 00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:07,730 I can remember somebody had surveyed out here before and didn't catch that there was another 725 00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:12,570 right away right beside it, alive when there was a empty right away, and they designed lots 726 00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:14,510 and build houses under a TVA line. 727 00:55:15,250 --> 00:55:20,110 So without having any of that information, how are y'all sure that that is the only easement 728 00:55:20,110 --> 00:55:21,950 through there with no deep book and paid revenues? 729 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:24,010 Not being the surveyor. 730 00:55:24,990 --> 00:55:30,610 As far as we did the survey into, but I don't, I'm not speaking on behalf of the surveyor, 731 00:55:30,730 --> 00:55:31,370 currently. 732 00:55:32,110 --> 00:55:32,810 Well, I don't know. 733 00:55:32,990 --> 00:55:33,730 Plymminary plaque. 734 00:55:35,170 --> 00:55:35,570 Yes. 735 00:55:35,770 --> 00:55:37,170 Have y'all contacted TVA? 736 00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:41,350 Because we weren't getting into the right, the right away we were not, we had not gotten 737 00:55:41,350 --> 00:55:42,710 a loan or anything from TVA. 738 00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:43,490 Well, 739 00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:53,820 I think having the survey are listed and getting a D book and page reference showing that you all have done due diligence on the right away. 740 00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,200 It would be a condition. 741 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,180 I'm done, Mr. Chairman. 742 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,980 Any other comments or questions? Go ahead. 743 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:12,800 Just to get a little more insight into a couple of things that staff had previously mentioned on our recommendation list. 744 00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:15,440 What's the status of the flood study? 745 00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:31,560 We submitted the preliminary flood study with our resum middle, and then there was a comment that there was some in a couple of stations where above the foot maximum, those are just minor modifications we need to make on the culprits. 746 00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:41,900 Essentially, they're right in the middle of the property, at the expense, there's no rise, so that was submitted with the package and see in the third party reviewer has reviewed it. 747 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,700 Okay, so what you're saying is there needs to be some covert design change of modifications. 748 00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:54,200 Yeah, the minimum elevations are in the study that was provided or they're in during the study. 749 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,300 Okay, fantastic. That was my main question. 750 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:04,480 I did have some questions around the survey, but that's already been picked up by Treasury. 751 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,280 If you don't understand, you're going to change some cohorts that are existing now. 752 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,140 No, no, no, the studies starts at the self-crosperage is 12 by 4 cohort. 753 00:57:15,260 --> 00:57:16,380 Any other comments? 754 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,820 Everyone be aware of the list of recommendations that the staff has made on this, there's a link there. 755 00:57:25,420 --> 00:57:27,040 Any other questions or comments? 756 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:28,240 Yes, one more. 757 00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:29,100 Go ahead. 758 00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,200 Staff, 759 00:57:32,670 --> 00:57:46,030 I just want to confirm on the M2 groups response letter number six hardest hollow from last 16 to 23 exceeds the 750 foot maximum length for permanent cul-de-sac. 760 00:57:46,620 --> 00:57:52,730 Their response back to us was all proposed within development or designated as local roads, therefore the maximum length is 1500 feet. 761 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:54,750 Are they accurate on that? 762 00:57:54,750 --> 00:57:54,830 Yeah. 763 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,480 What's 15 or 15? 764 00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:07,380 Make the call. 765 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:07,780 Thank you. 766 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,060 Tell me. 767 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:08,660 Yeah. 768 00:58:11,410 --> 00:58:13,690 The whole sector is saying the 15 or 15 per hour. 769 00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:18,690 I thought it was 750, but I'm just curious because it is only 750. 770 00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:20,410 They're responses. 771 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:27,020 I'm back and forth with staff and with Matthew on that one and he confirmed. 772 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:33,770 What's the actual length here? 773 00:58:34,030 --> 00:58:38,390 I think it'd be prudent to make that a condition to verify that length. 774 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:40,030 Because I don't recall. 775 00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:40,530 I know it. 776 00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:46,190 I know it came out in a staff comment. I know we went back and forth and I don't know 777 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:49,150 that I looked back on it so I need to look. I need to do that. 778 00:58:51,410 --> 00:58:53,990 Sorry, Brian Holcomb with them two group. I co-orspot it with Matthew. 779 00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,000 Like I said, I know it went back and forth but he's specifically addressed it to the staff 780 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,980 and I couldn't answer it. I couldn't justify my answer if I could without looking at it. 781 00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:05,060 So, I think, 782 00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:14,410 go ahead, a number 11. 783 00:59:17,350 --> 00:59:20,150 Has any consideration been given to the body fire protection? 784 00:59:20,290 --> 00:59:23,010 A lot of the water, water, rail, and bill, and it gets the fire flowing. 785 00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:23,650 Not available. 786 00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:28,330 I see that your hydrants are showing us blowoffs, not as for fire service. 787 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:32,930 So at U-State in here, the developer builder will provide sprinkling as necessary. 788 00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:39,610 So, are you stating that the builder is going to privately sprinkle all 115 of these homes? 789 00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:40,590 Yes. 790 00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:41,710 He's committed to that. 791 00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:45,490 How do we get that? 792 00:59:45,490 --> 00:59:59,390 But now just to elaborate that you know part of the water improvements were making as part of this this development the Mount Pleasant has future plans to continue to improve the basin, which is a big part of what. 793 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,020 Happy with this development, as far as capacity, but also working towards just improving the entire system. 794 01:00:13,450 --> 01:00:16,730 Fighter staff did look at 1500 foot, it was correct. 795 01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:21,230 So they've stated that on the fire, it's going to be his homes. 796 01:00:25,490 --> 01:00:33,570 Well, and carry that forward to final flats, then it would be attached to the billing permits when they're issued for those lots. 797 01:00:33,570 --> 01:00:34,570 Anything 798 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,720 further? 799 01:00:44,550 --> 01:00:46,210 The other one is the emotion involved. 800 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,120 The other one is the emotion. 801 01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,160 All right. 802 01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:01,360 The emotion for approval. 803 01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:08,620 Condition upon the TVA right away information deed book and page being added to the document. 804 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,140 The survey or stamp and documentation required is also added to the document. 805 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,600 Connectivity is extended to the property line with temporary call to sack or turn around as needed. 806 01:01:21,180 --> 01:01:30,300 between lots 23 and 24, and between lots 9 and 10, which will most likely result in the removal of one lot to get that 50 foot right away through there. 807 01:01:32,450 --> 01:01:39,770 We did get staff approval on the 1500 foot road frontage, and then on record that the all homes built in this neighborhood, 808 01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:47,750 we'll have the fire sprinklers as a domestic fire sprinkler system installed at time of building permit. 809 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:47,830 that? 810 01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:57,560 Is that your motion? Yes, sir. Is there a second with that? Second. I don't have 811 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:04,960 one thing and this no where you tie in the South Cross bridges road and I know these are 812 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,520 not construction plans but once again we've got to turn out, right just to turn out, coming 813 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:17,300 out to the edge of the existing pavement. Please require people to go back 15 feet off 814 01:02:17,300 --> 01:02:24,800 for center line to end their turnouts so that it would decide to do what's the right 815 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,140 on the road. 816 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:30,180 You know how to cut out all of them curbs and redo all that and it's a very, very little 817 01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:36,980 expense to the developer but just drop them returns back 15 feet off the center line and 818 01:02:36,980 --> 01:02:39,220 then cause less problems in the future. 819 01:02:39,620 --> 01:02:43,560 I won't make out a condition of approval, I just hope y'all will require that when you 820 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,300 refuse the plans. 821 01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:48,020 They'll have a motion in the second and here's for the comments or questions. 822 01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:52,560 Motion include all of the staff comments as well. 823 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,310 Okay, thank you. 824 01:02:55,660 --> 01:02:56,660 Anything further? 825 01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,040 Red vote. 826 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,000 All in favour say aye. 827 01:03:01,420 --> 01:03:01,940 Opposed no. 828 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,420 Roll call vote. 829 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,440 We come strumbled. 830 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,220 Mr. Deoak. 831 01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:32,200 Yes. 832 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:35,900 Mr. Seiber. 833 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,800 Mr. Horwell. 834 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,220 both. 835 01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:52,840 Mr. Jensen. Mr. Kennedy. Ms. Notley. Ms. Hydeck. No. 836 01:03:55,780 --> 01:03:59,900 Mr. Jones. Mr. Diaz. 837 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,020 Six A's. Three Nays. The motion carries. 838 01:04:10,850 --> 01:04:11,350 Thanks, sir. 839 01:04:31,170 --> 01:04:32,250 Just build in and build in. 840 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,480 I'm talking about for 841 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,880 next meeting next item next 842 01:04:55,290 --> 01:05:00,390 item I believe is item number 10 I mean 11 843 01:05:00,390 --> 01:05:07,490 excuse me Murray County unified development plan as we all recognize we have 844 01:05:07,490 --> 01:05:14,410 been at this trying to put this document together for several for a long time 845 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:23,330 plan, our planning commission itself has turned over almost half of it during the time 846 01:05:23,330 --> 01:05:30,750 that we've been working on this. We have been meeting every week just about it on Thursday 847 01:05:30,750 --> 01:05:38,990 and spending time trying to put together what we believe is a best effort to get a zoning 848 01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:42,070 resolution before the county commission for them to review. 849 01:05:44,410 --> 01:05:52,490 I would hope that we are at that stage at present time, but I would appreciate a motion 850 01:05:52,490 --> 01:06:00,630 to pass this on to the mayor of county commission for their review and recommendations. 851 01:06:01,090 --> 01:06:08,190 Keep in mind, they have an option then to make changes to accept as written, to remain 852 01:06:08,190 --> 01:06:18,720 to us or to kill it all together. They could do any of those four things but that is their 853 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:26,300 prerogative. I'm looking for a motion to submit to the Murray County County Commission. 854 01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:32,920 I have a motion to have a second. Seconds everywhere. Any further discussion? 855 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:35,840 You ready to vote? 856 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,780 So, all in favor say aye. 857 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:38,900 Opposed? 858 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:39,140 No. 859 01:06:39,820 --> 01:06:40,360 Thank y'all. 860 01:06:42,510 --> 01:06:43,150 All right. 861 01:06:43,310 --> 01:06:45,090 Next item is letters of credit. 862 01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:46,370 We got anything on letters of credit? 863 01:06:52,450 --> 01:06:54,570 Bless from Shaw Enterprises. 864 01:06:55,250 --> 01:07:00,910 The only thing outstanding item that I knew was the cross-bores. 865 01:07:01,110 --> 01:07:02,870 I don't know if they've been painted or not. 866 01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:06,790 So, they had asked to be on the June meeting. 867 01:07:07,170 --> 01:07:07,410 Okay. 868 01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:10,170 Because I don't know if that task has been completed. 869 01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:11,050 and? Okay. 870 01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:14,250 Ports and officers, committee and staff. 871 01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:23,530 You guys in there? 872 01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:25,410 Other business. 873 01:07:28,570 --> 01:07:29,590 Question of protection, amendment, 874 01:07:29,770 --> 01:07:32,570 and a quick slide sizes for visible. 875 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,140 I think that would require a revision 876 01:07:44,140 --> 01:07:46,300 to our fed vision rates to do that. 877 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,880 As well, Robert, look into it. 878 01:07:48,260 --> 01:07:49,920 And if we're going to get into that, 879 01:07:50,420 --> 01:07:52,580 I've got several things I'd like 880 01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:55,580 concluded as standards that we adopt, 881 01:07:55,580 --> 01:08:00,380 But I don't think I don't want to do it piecemeal if we really want to do that 882 01:08:00,380 --> 01:08:01,700 I suggest we get together 883 01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:05,200 Put together what we want and then consider 884 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:13,820 In the meantime, we can just request staff to ask the applicants to give us a bigger paper. That would be great 885 01:08:14,860 --> 01:08:18,760 Well, and if it's unreadable or anything we can turn it down the cost of that 886 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:26,100 But I think that should be one of the steps that we need to take, but I think we need to. 887 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:33,040 I suggest that we get copies of several plans that have been filed and look at them and 888 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:39,500 make recommendations for changes to our side vision regs over the next few weeks or months 889 01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,460 and rather than trying to piece me. 890 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,740 There is one other issue, I just got to repair this. 891 01:08:51,360 --> 01:09:00,340 The matter of traffic studies, I know we've got a traffic engineer that we've used to 892 01:09:00,340 --> 01:09:02,820 review private traffic studies. 893 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:14,540 We have approved last time a development with a statement that the roads meet always requirements 894 01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:15,840 or something of that nature. 895 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,320 I believe you made the motion, David. 896 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,020 I'm talking about one on 431. 897 01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:23,580 I looked at that traffic study. 898 01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:26,320 I suppose that we've seen it. 899 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:28,960 I don't believe I've ever seen it before I have it not. 900 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:39,140 But we have just approved a subdivision whose has taken a role that presently has a level 901 01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,700 of service A, B, and C on all the movements and turned it into a role that has a level 902 01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:55,200 of service F and D with a statement saying that we think with the change that we've made 903 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,620 that the L will probably move up to a D, but with no 904 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,240 substantiating data. 905 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,040 I just think we need to help someone really look at these 906 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:11,040 traffic studies more diligently and make some specific 907 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,980 recommendations so we know where we're going. 908 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:20,760 Other business, public comments, anybody in public 909 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:21,580 want to make a comment? 910 01:10:24,250 --> 01:10:25,650 Well, you are part of the public. 911 01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:26,630 Come right on up here. 912 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:27,490 I 913 01:10:30,370 --> 01:10:32,390 got to get home but 10 o'clock tonight, so don't. 914 01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:35,390 Kathy Grotei, I'm a county commissioner for- 915 01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:36,030 Tell us who you are. 916 01:10:36,290 --> 01:10:37,430 Kathy Grotei. 917 01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:39,430 I'm a county commissioner for District 6. 918 01:10:40,150 --> 01:10:45,170 I come to these purposely, this in BZA, so I can kind of see what's coming at us. 919 01:10:46,030 --> 01:10:47,510 Is there any way- 920 01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:51,050 Okay, so the first question I have is on item number 11. 921 01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:53,370 When is it coming to the Murray County Commission? 922 01:10:54,570 --> 01:10:55,130 Is that June? 923 01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:55,210 I will notice that there may be a 924 01:10:58,530 --> 01:11:00,990 We did publish it for a 925 01:11:00,990 --> 01:11:02,910 presentation before the June 926 01:11:02,910 --> 01:11:04,890 meeting before that there will 927 01:11:04,890 --> 01:11:06,870 be no action taking that at the 928 01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:07,350 June meeting. 929 01:11:07,550 --> 01:11:08,670 We have a public hearing already 930 01:11:08,670 --> 01:11:10,390 scheduled at night for rezoning. 931 01:11:10,690 --> 01:11:12,850 I'll be doing a presentation on 932 01:11:12,850 --> 01:11:14,430 the unified development plan not 933 01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:16,470 in its entirety just kind of 934 01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:18,490 cursory presentation for the 935 01:11:18,490 --> 01:11:19,770 overview of it. 936 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:40,830 We'll presentation. Is that the June meeting act June meeting? Yes, ma'am and there'll be a couple presentations for the public between the June meeting and the July County Commission meeting after the County Commission meeting in July. There will also be another public hearing with the presentation and it'll be taken into consideration by that body at that time. 937 01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:58,270 I'm asking that because I'm the budget chairman and you're hitting right at our budget so that's why I asked the question and I was wanting to try to schedule some 29 then but I know I know the schedule looks hectic so it it was worth waiting till July. 938 01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:59,690 Appreciate it. 939 01:11:59,690 --> 01:12:05,570 Commission will appreciate you being here and appreciate your diligence. Anything else? 940 01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:08,690 Notions to adjourn? 941 01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:12,730 No, motion. We need to recognize the young way is 942 01:12:12,730 --> 01:12:15,030 leaving the staff hazard tonight. 943 01:12:17,660 --> 01:12:18,940 Well, I 944 01:12:22,810 --> 01:12:27,390 believe that you are referring to our esteemed 945 01:12:27,390 --> 01:12:31,630 to Debbie Babes, or bones, as I once heard her call. 946 01:12:34,010 --> 01:12:36,610 It's been a pleasure to have her opportunity 947 01:12:36,610 --> 01:12:38,290 to work with her all the way these years, 948 01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:41,090 and she does tremendous job. 949 01:12:41,650 --> 01:12:43,370 We gon' miss you, yes sir. 950 01:12:43,710 --> 01:12:44,230 Thoughts? 951 01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:47,390 Mr. Debbie, you've done a phenomenal job 952 01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:49,790 for this county, for Murray County in general. 953 01:12:50,210 --> 01:12:52,530 You have served this role selflessly. 954 01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:55,290 Stressed yourself out for many, many nights 955 01:12:55,290 --> 01:13:00,210 many many times and a lot with your family and everything else and all I can 956 01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:09,710 say is thank you anyone else yeah I was I was lost when I first come over here 957 01:13:09,710 --> 01:13:21,890 10 years ago now I'm found all the way in Debbie here motion motion to 958 01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:24,310 to your chair. Second. Second. 959 01:13:24,570 --> 01:13:25,110 Call in favor. 960 01:13:25,730 --> 01:13:26,370 Nice. 961 01:13:27,310 --> 01:13:27,730 Nice.