[0:00] After 4:30, so we're going to go ahead and get the safety committee started for [0:04] Wednesday, September 9th. [0:05] I'll do the prayer, and I've asked Commissioner Markham to lead us in the [0:10] Commissioner Markham to lead us in the pledge. [0:10] If you will, please stand. [0:11] Father God, we are, we are eternally grateful, Father, for the, [0:15] for the many blessings that you have bestowed upon us, Father. [0:19] We thank you for your Son, Father. We thank you for what he did for us on the [0:23] thank you for what he did for us on the cross. [0:23] So that we might be reconciled to you, Father. [0:26] Father, I pray that you would be with us tonight. [0:29] I pray that you would grant us wisdom, an abundance of wisdom, [0:32] as we do these people's work. [0:34] I pray, Father, that you be with each and every commissioner as we go through these [0:39] meetings and help us, Father, do the right thing for the people. [0:42] Father, I pray now that you would just bless our families, watch over them, [0:47] bless the first responders, bless those young men, women, [0:50] and boys across the seas who are are fighting for us so that we might be able [0:54] fighting for us so that we might be able to [0:54] assemble here to do this, Father. [0:56] Father, I pray that you just— [0:58] whatever we do and say here tonight would bring glory and honor to you. [1:02] For it is in Jesus' name we pray. [1:04] Amen. [1:04] If you would put your hand on your heart or salute if you're a veteran. [1:10] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [1:15] Republic for which it stands. [1:17] One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [1:22] All right, first order of business is the [1:28] election of a chairman, [1:32] and I will now open the floor for nominations. [1:39] Uh, Commissioner Rossmann. [1:43] I nominate Kevin Markham. [1:44] Kevin Markham has been nominated. Are there any other nominations? [1:47] No. [1:47] If not, I will take a motion to, uh, close nominations and elect by acclamation. [1:53] I got a motion from Commissioner Hope and a second from Commissioner Harlan. [1:59] All those in favor, please say aye. [2:01] Aye. [2:02] Congratulations, Mr. Chairman. [2:05] Well, thank you very much. [2:06] It's yours. [2:12] Don't forget your tools. [2:15] Yeah, I'm just trying to get out a little bit. We'll put you to work. [2:19] I know. [2:20] Thank you, ma'am. You're welcome. [2:23] Thank you, Danny, and thank you, committee, [2:28] for electing me chair. [2:31] Um, I will mention that all members are present, uh, [2:37] per the roll call here. [2:39] But, uh, next item to do is elect the vice chair. [2:45] At this time, I'll take nominations for vice chair. [2:51] Chair, I'd like to nominate Commissioner Holt. [2:55] Okay, Commissioner Mullen nominates Tim Holt. [2:59] Any other? Uh, Mr. Harlan? Commissioner Harlan? [3:03] Uh, I got a nomination for— [3:05] I want to nominate Wayne. Wayne Romesburg? Okay. [3:09] Do I have any other nominations? [3:12] Seeing none, uh, somebody make a motion for nomination to cease. [3:18] Commissioner Romesburg second. Anybody got— I can second that. [3:23] That nomination ceased. [3:25] So what we'll do here is we'll just take a quick roll call vote. [3:31] Tim Holdt, and I'll start with you, Commissioner Mullen, for Tim Holdt, [3:38] yes or no? [3:39] Yes. [3:39] Commissioner Harlan? [3:42] No, I don't. [3:44] Okay. Commissioner Holdt? [3:48] Yes. [3:49] And you can vote. That's 4. Oh, Commissioner Romesburg, I'm sorry. No. [3:55] And I'm going to vote no. [3:58] So Commissioner Romesburg, Commissioner Mullen. [4:02] Commissioner Mullen? [4:10] And Commissioner Harlan? [4:15] Yes. [4:16] Commissioner Romesburg? [4:17] Yes. [4:17] Commissioner Holt? [4:19] No. [4:19] And I vote yes. And I don't have anything against you, [4:23] but Wayne asked me to vote for him the other day, so I'm a man of my word. [4:28] So Wayne Romesburg is vice chair. Do I need to move back there now? [4:33] You can sit wherever you want to. It doesn't matter. [4:36] I'll just sit right up here. [4:37] That'd be fine. That'll be fine. [4:39] Okay, the next thing on the agenda is the approval Of the agenda, and per— [4:45] it was too late to make a change on the published agenda, but if you'll turn over— [4:51] well, if you go to the bottom under new business, discussion of flock cameras. [4:57] Commissioner Sumner's asked that we put that on the agenda, [5:02] and then he's trying to do some homework to get everybody a little more educated, [5:08] and he needs a little more time, so we want to push that to our October meeting. [5:14] Is that okay with you, Commissioner— Sheriff? You're going to— okay. [5:19] And, uh, so, uh, you want— do you want to do that or you want to take it off? [5:25] Okay, we'll take that off. Okay, uh, so someone, uh, needs to make a motion. [5:31] I guess I can't do that, right? To approve the To approve the agenda as amended. [5:37] Commissioner Romsberg, I need a second. Second by Commissioner Holt. [5:42] All in favor say aye. [5:43] Aye. [5:44] All right, so that'll be delayed until October. [5:48] And now, now we will, uh, now that we have a— do we have to, uh, vote for the, uh, [5:55] for the amended agenda? So, uh, a motion for the amended agenda. Commissioner Holt. [6:03] Second by Commissioner Romsberg. All in favor say aye. [6:07] Aye. [6:08] Now we have an approved agenda. All right. [6:12] The August minutes have been presented to us, [6:16] and if anybody has any comments or discussion, we'll do that now, [6:21] but I don't see any lights on, so the agenda— [6:25] the minutes from August stand as presented. [6:29] Uh, do we have anybody signed up for public comment? [6:33] No, sir. [6:33] So we can move through that. [6:36] All right, next item on our agenda is, uh, [6:40] Sheriff Rowland. [6:48] I don't think— [6:49] I don't think we have to introduce you to anybody. [6:51] Uh, well, welcome to the new ones and congratulations to everybody. [6:55] The parliamentary procedure part of it, it gets a little bit easier as you go along. [7:01] So, but congratulations on all of your successful campaigns. [7:05] We have sent out our monthly report, [7:07] and I'd be happy to answer any questions at this time with it. [7:11] Just for everybody's information, when, when, [7:14] when Lisa and Cindy send out the agenda, if it's in blue, [7:18] that's an automatic link to that report. [7:21] You can just click on that and study that report prior to the committee meeting. [7:27] No questions on that right now. [7:29] All right. [7:30] And well, with that, with it being some new ones, uh, just with our monthly [7:35] new ones, uh, just with our monthly report, [7:36] just to kind of make you familiar with it if you're not, [7:40] of course it has warrant service, uh, [7:42] the folks that come through our judicial building, uh, new building or part 2, uh, [7:48] calls that we're Dispatched throughout the county and within city municipalities and [7:54] all, then average populations with our corrections, [7:58] and then any revenue that's collected from any warrant service or inmate revenues or [8:04] anything like that. Second page is going to be what our jail clinic, [8:09] Southern Health Partners, what they do within that month. That's on the second [8:14] within that month. That's on the second page. [8:15] Okay. [8:16] 3rd page. It's just really a big thank you to our reserve unit that we have. [8:21] These are the— well, it's all men that's currently serving. [8:25] They do a phenomenal job. [8:27] They're business people that serve somewhere else to make their living, [8:32] but it's in their DNA to come out and serve in that deputy role. [8:36] They go through extensive training, [8:39] and if you see a deputy at a If we have a special event, Mule Day, fair, rodeo, [8:44] things like that, it's most likely it's going to be a reserve deputy. [8:49] And, and I'd put them against anybody. They are phenomenal. [8:53] But it's the amount of hours that they put in each month and take, [8:57] and that doesn't come out of our budget to go out and serve the citizens of this [9:03] county. [9:03] Sheriff, I know at the rodeo you honored [9:07] 2, I believe, One of them was David [9:11] Thomas. [9:12] David Thomas. [9:13] He had 20 years or something. So like you said, it ain't a hobby, it's DNA. [9:16] No, it's— he was out serving last night. I mean, he's a sergeant in that unit. [9:22] He and Ricky Sims, 20-plus-year veterans and just phenomenal. [9:26] Ricky Sims, of course, former commissioner for many years, just a heart of service. [9:32] His family has kind of followed suit with him. [9:35] They're just Public servants, phenomenal. [9:38] He's actually, uh, if you see Ricky, thank him for his service. [9:43] He's getting ready to retire. [9:45] Uh, we're trying to work on his replacement, uh, but at the end of the [9:50] replacement, uh, but at the end of the year, I, [9:51] I think he'll probably, uh, retire and enjoy those grandbabies. [9:55] So, um, The next— I don't know if that's the 4th or 5th— 4th page. [10:00] Uh, that's just a little bit of update as far as our programs within the jail, uh, [10:06] with the inmate, uh, Rehabilitation to reduce our recidivism. [10:10] And then SRO report, of course, this was— [10:13] we're a month behind with our reporting just because we're the first ones out of [10:19] just because we're the first ones out of the [10:19] gate normally. So they were out of school for summer break. [10:23] So just to kind of bring everybody up to speed as far as what our monthly report [10:29] consists of. The only other 2 Okay. [10:31] The next 2 acts of business that we have is 2 budget amendments. This is 2 grants. [10:37] It's just cleanup more than anything. [10:40] The first one, I don't know how they were listed on the agenda, [10:44] but the first one is going to be— it's a Justice Assistance Grant contract. [10:50] It's just moving— we're taking $2,756 from one line and placing that in a different [10:56] line per the budget office. [10:58] So the way we do that, [10:59] we have to make a motion and second to move it to the budget committee. [11:05] So that's what we'll be looking for now is a budget amendment, [11:10] a motion for budget amendment for $2,756. [11:13] Motion by Commissioner Romsberg, seconded by Commissioner Holdt. [11:18] Seeing no questions or comments, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? [11:24] Okay, Sheriff, that one moves. [11:26] All right, second one, same scenario. [11:29] This is going to be the evidence-based programming grant, [11:34] asking that $676 be moved from said line to the, [11:38] to the appropriate line that's listed in the budget amendment. [11:45] I think I know what he's going to say. Consent. [11:48] I thought of it about the time we said aye. So we'll do this one. [11:52] Basically, that goes to the Budget Committee in their consent agenda, [11:57] and then it'll go to full commission if they vote for it. Commissioner Sumner? [12:02] That's it. [12:03] That's it. [12:04] Okay. [12:05] Okay. So, so a motion to send this to the Budget Committee As a consent [12:11] item is what we're looking for here. [12:14] Motion by Commissioner Holt, second by Commissioner— did you— [12:20] Commissioner Romsberg. All in favor? Any comment? [12:24] He still wants— [12:25] Oh, you still want to talk? [12:26] Yeah, I just, just briefly, I, you know, explain the consent agenda. [12:30] Those, those are for routine business items, you know, that we have, [12:34] and it doesn't necessarily need to be a separate resolution. [12:38] It helps us to kind of keep the meeting flowing and goes a little quicker with [12:43] flowing and goes a little quicker with that [12:43] since it's just a routine business item. [12:45] So anything that's a routine business item will go to consent. [12:49] If it hits— if the budget amendment hits fund balance, [12:52] then we typically vote on that separately as a separate resolution. [12:56] Just want to let you know. Thank you. [12:59] Some things like insurance recovery and, you know, [13:02] those kind of things that just are simple or it doesn't cost the taxpayers anything, [13:07] It's just moving money or accepting money. So, okay. [13:10] So we have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. [13:13] Aye. [13:14] Any opposed? All right. [13:16] I have a couple lights on. [13:17] Okay, we got a couple lights on. [13:19] Winston Harlan. [13:22] Commissioner Harlan. [13:23] My question is on the consent. [13:25] Is there like a max amount of money before it can be consent? [13:33] Commissioner Summers? [13:33] It's, it's, it's basically if it hits fund balance, pretty much. [13:37] If it's just like— it could be any amount of money if you're transferring it just [13:42] from one line item to the other, [13:44] but if it hits the fund balance where it's not been budgeted before, then it, [13:49] then it, then it doesn't, you know, then it's not a consent agent— consent item— [13:54] consent agenda item. [13:55] So if it's— doesn't matter how much it is, it just matters what how it, [14:00] how it lands on the, on the, on the ledger. [14:03] Okay. Okay. [14:04] This is money that we've already had in our budget. [14:07] It just needed to be moved from one line to another line. [14:10] And it, with it being a grant, it needed to go through budget. [14:14] Okay. [14:14] And the commission. [14:15] Okay. [14:15] All right. [14:16] Thank you. [14:16] All right. Another light. Commissioner Mullin. [14:18] Thank you, Chair. Sheriff, pleasure to meet you formally. [14:23] My experience is 13 years prior to law enforcement. [14:27] I'm used to looking at these monthly reports. [14:30] My question to you comes from the dispatched calls answered. [14:35] You got a number of 3,120 in there. [14:37] How many of those are actually dispatched versus officer-initiated action? [14:43] And what does your time consumption look like for deputies? [14:48] It, it would be both of those. [14:50] It would be a call received, whether they called our dispatch directly, uh, [14:55] if we receive the call from Murray Ecom 911, or if it's a traffic stop. [15:00] It's a call for service. [15:02] Can we, uh, look at the CAD and have those reports break down those call for [15:07] service types so we can see what your deputies are dealing with on a daily [15:13] basis? [15:13] We can, we can break that. [15:15] I mean, I don't know if you want everything as far as, uh, Broken down? [15:19] I mean, some could get very minute, but, uh, sure, or, you know, [15:24] your top 3 or 5 or something like that. [15:26] I just want to know what the ground troops are dealing with, right? [15:29] Yeah, chaos. [15:31] Well, you can summarize it like that, but we'd like to see details. Thank you. [15:35] Okay, Commissioner— oh, Commissioner Holt, one minute. [15:39] You got a question real quick? [15:41] Yeah, Commissioner Doby— I mean, Councilor Doby. Sorry about that. [15:45] That's all right, Chairman. Thank you. [15:47] I just had a real quick question, and this might be for Chairman Summers, [15:50] but is this something that both of these budget amendments can go to consent, [15:54] you think? [15:54] Yes. Okay. [15:56] Okay. So maybe we have to vote on that too. [15:57] You mean go back to the first one? [16:02] I think what we can probably do is pass this and then say send them both to budget [16:09] amendment. [16:09] Okay. [16:10] Or I'm sorry, consent. Sorry. Motion to send both to consent. [16:13] All right. Motion by Commissioner Holdt, seconded by Commissioner Romesburg. [16:17] To send both the budget amendments to the consent agenda on budget. [16:20] All in favor say aye. [16:21] Aye. [16:23] Any opposed? All right, thank you. [16:25] Yes, sir. [16:26] And Commissioner Mullen, uh, also to follow up that, that's going to be, uh, [16:31] your civil deputies that serve in civil process. [16:35] I mean, it's anything that a deputy touches that, that is catted up, [16:39] that they have made or attempted to make contact with, uh, [16:44] with Turn Commissioner Mullen back on. [16:46] Sure. [16:47] I guess my concern was just the overall calls answered. [16:51] Like I said, were those officer-initiated actions or actual calls for service that [16:58] were called into E911 or otherwise? [17:00] That's what I'm saying. It could be initiated by a deputy. [17:05] It could be initiated by a citizen calling to our dispatch or [17:09] Murray E911. [17:12] Yes, sir. [17:12] You good, Commissioner Mullen? [17:17] Yes. Okay. [17:18] All right, Commissioner Holt, you turned his light off. [17:22] Okay. [17:23] Oh, I'm sorry. All right, Sheriff, you got something else? [17:27] You all have a blessed evening. [17:29] Oh, all right. Thank you. All right, Highway Department, Mr. Ken McKee. [17:40] Good afternoon, Chairman. [17:41] Yes, sir. Welcome. [17:42] I have a few things on my agenda for tonight. [17:46] I guess we'll start with the budget amendments. [17:51] The first one is for $4,267.40, uh, sale of scrap metal. [17:57] And 2 consent agenda, so we'll say that up front. [18:02] I need a motion to send this to budget and their [18:07] consent agenda to accept the $4,267.40 into your [18:12] general fund. [18:13] Uh, it goes to a specific line item. [18:17] It goes to the line item you had to approve. [18:19] Um, oh yeah, that's all right. We go— we'll send it to budget, right? [18:25] Okay. [18:26] All right, motion. [18:29] Commissioner Holt. [18:29] Seconded by Commissioner Romesburg. All in favor say aye. [18:35] Aye. [18:35] Any opposed? Okay, that one goes to consent agenda. [18:39] The next one is a budget amendment in the amount of $13,915.48. [18:44] It's, uh, insurance recovery where somebody ran over one of our [18:49] guardrails. [18:50] Okay, this will go to the consent agenda on the budget. Need a motion. [18:56] Commissioner Romesburg. Anybody second? Commissioner Harlan. All in favor say aye. [19:03] Aye. Any opposed? All right, that goes to the budget consent agenda. [19:10] Uh, all right, got a big one here. [19:13] Uh, the next one is a budget amendment in the amount of $351,883 [19:19] Uh, that should have been a capital carryover from prior year. [19:24] And, uh, that goes to consent as well, Commissioner Summers? Okay. [19:28] And that's just clean up last year's budget, moving it forward, [19:32] right? [19:33] Okay. [19:35] Okay. Uh, motion please. Commissioner Holt. [19:39] Second, Commissioner Harlan. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? [19:46] All right, one more. [19:48] The next one is a budget amendment in the amount [19:52] of $466,394, and that's their state aid money. [19:57] Okay. All right, this consent also. Okay, so I need a motion. [20:02] Commissioner Romsberg. Commissioner Harlan seconds that. [20:07] All in favor say aye. [20:10] Aye. [20:10] Any opposed? All right, that goes to the consent agenda at the budget meeting. [20:15] All right, right-of-way guidelines. [20:16] So, uh, right now, currently, [20:18] the county doesn't have any guidelines for people working within the right-of-way, [20:24] so we have developed a set, um, [20:27] that I'd like the commission to adopt for the county. [20:30] So I'll need a resolution to send this forward. [20:34] Uh, can you give me an example? You mean working in the— like contractors digging? [20:41] Anybody working in the county right-of-way, [20:44] this will make them responsible to the county. [20:47] They'll have to provide the insurance plans, bonds. [20:50] Okay. [20:52] All right. Need a motion on that. And then this would probably go to admin? [20:56] No, no, this will still go to— [20:58] There's no money involved, so full commission? [21:02] This, this will go to full commission? All right, let's get a motion. [21:08] Let's get a motion. Yeah, get a motion. Uh, Romesburg makes the motion. [21:13] And a second? Commissioner Holt. [21:16] All right, Commissioner Romesburg has a question for you. [21:20] Ken, this is just a simple question. [21:22] Like, when I'm on my farm out there, and a lot of times I bush hog right along, [21:27] right in the right-of-way, because it goes 25 foot from centerline. [21:30] Is that— would that be affecting something like that or not? [21:33] No. [21:34] Okay. [21:36] Thank you. [21:37] Thank you, Chairman. [21:37] Yes, sir. Okay. Any other questions? [21:41] Seeing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none. [21:47] All right. Inventory list. [21:49] So I'm required to present the inventory list to the mayor and then Acknowledge [21:55] it, I guess, to the commission so that it gets recorded in, um, Joey's office. [22:03] So this is equipment, tools, whatever? [22:05] Yeah, it's just the, the list of our inventory of equipment. [22:10] Okay, do we need to vote on that? Okay, we just accept that list for information. [22:15] It goes on. [22:15] Okay, thank you. Uh, Monsanto Bridge replacement. [22:19] A lot of people want to hear about this. [22:22] Yeah, so we bid out the Monsanto Bridge, [22:27] and we've decided to award the contract. [22:31] And the amount is $1,655,820. [22:35] The contractor is Capital Cities Construction Services. [22:41] They from Nashville? [22:47] I'm not sure where their office is. [22:49] Okay. [22:49] But they're in the Middle Tennessee region. [22:52] Okay. [22:54] This needs to go to budget, and this will not go to consent. [22:58] So a motion to send this to budget? [23:01] I don't know. [23:02] The budget's already approved the money. I have it in my line item. [23:06] This was just mainly so the commission would be aware of what's going on. [23:09] Scott, what do you think? [23:16] Has it already been approved previously? We did appropriate the money last year. [23:21] Yeah. [23:22] You probably don't need to go back. [23:26] You're just accepting it? [23:29] I don't require a resolution or anything. It's just for acknowledgment. [23:33] Well, you, you can verify if it, if it needs to go to budget. [23:36] We're just accepting the contract. [23:38] If it needs to go to budget, We can bring it up back in budget, right? [23:42] Sure. [23:43] Okay. [23:43] We don't have a contract yet. [23:45] Oh. [23:45] We've just awarded the bid. We're in the process of doing the contract. [23:50] Oh, okay. So we don't need to do anything yet? [23:53] No. [23:53] Right. Okay. All right. [23:55] All right. Well, thank you for that information. [23:58] I know a lot of people would be glad. [24:00] I mean, you still probably, what, got 6, 8 months? [24:02] Yeah. Actual construction probably won't start for 6 months. [24:07] And then the actual work will probably take 18 to 24 months. [24:11] They have to order beams, [24:13] and there's not really much they can do until the beams are constructed. [24:18] And they can't do anything until we have an actual contract. [24:22] OK. [24:23] I want to ask you a question. [24:25] I know it's not county business, but if you know, on the Mount Olivet Road bridge, [24:30] I mean, is that truly going to be a 3-year deal? [24:34] Or is it being expedited, or do you— have you heard? [24:37] I don't know. That project's being totally managed by the state of Tennessee, TDOT, [24:42] right? So I don't know where they're at in their process. [24:45] Okay. [24:48] Uh, Commissioner Harlan. [24:51] Okay, I have a question, uh, just based on the bid, the bid process. [24:56] Uh, I know it's— [24:58] you said Capital City was the lowest responsible contractor. [25:05] And, you know, I'm— I know I'm new at this, [25:09] but is there a committee that oversees the bid, [25:14] picking the company? [25:16] I mean, I'm quite sure you are involved, but what's the process on that? [25:20] We advertise it for bid. They submit the bids to the Yes. [25:25] The purchasing department has a public opening. [25:29] So there's— on this bid, there was probably 200 line items. [25:34] So the engineering firm then has to verify that all the math adds up between all the [25:41] bidders to come up with the total. [25:44] And then they send it back to us to determine who we want to award it to. [25:51] Okay, who is us? [25:52] I mean, who is the committee? [25:53] The Cumberland County Highway Department. [25:55] Okay. [26:00] Okay. [26:00] All right. [26:00] Thank you. [26:01] Commissioner Romesburg. [26:03] Ken, just a quick question. [26:04] On the Montana Bridge, [26:05] are we going to be tearing the old bridge down first and replacing it, [26:09] or are we going to be building it side by side and take the old one out then? [26:13] It's rehabilitation of the existing Structure. [26:17] So half the bridge is still good, [26:20] the other half is needing to be repaired. [26:23] So will the road be closed then for a while? [26:26] The road's been closed for 5 years. [26:28] Oh, okay. [26:29] I didn't realize it. I don't go out that way. I have no reason to go to Monsanto. [26:33] I didn't realize it'd been that long, but wow. [26:36] Did you need to correct something? No. [26:39] Okay, Commissioner Mullen. [26:41] Thank you, Chair. Sir, with that bridge replacement, [26:46] you said it's been closed for 5 years. [26:49] Is rehabilitation based on engineer recommendations? [26:54] Yes. [26:56] So it's a repair versus replace after being closed for 5 years based on an [27:01] being closed for 5 years based on an engineer? [27:02] Right. [27:03] Okay. Thank you. Councilor Doby? [27:10] Yeah, thank you, Chairman. Um, uh, Mr. [27:12] McKee, do you know, do you know if the project will last longer than a year? [27:17] Doug— I was just talking to Doug about it. [27:19] He said that was just one stipulation to look out for, for us. [27:23] Yes, the project will last more than 1 year. [27:25] Okay. [27:27] Um, okay, he said we don't have to unless the project will last longer than 1 [27:31] year. I asked him If we have to send a bid through budget, he— [27:34] that was his response. [27:35] So we should send it? [27:38] That's, that's my read on it. [27:39] Yes, sir. [27:40] Yeah, I don't think that shouldn't be a problem. [27:43] All right, so let me get a motion to send this to budget. Commissioner Holt. [27:48] Commissioner Harlan seconds it. All in favor say aye. [27:51] Aye. [27:52] Any opposed? All right, so that moves on to budget. [27:55] All right, that's all I have on my agenda. If anybody else has any questions No. [28:02] Okay, thank you. [28:02] Thank you very much. [28:03] All right, uh, Emergency Management, [28:07] Jeff Hardy. You still got a skeleton [28:12] crew? [28:12] Yes, sir. [28:13] All right, Mr. Hardy's got a [28:17] PowerPoint presentation for [28:21] us. [28:33] Good evening, afternoon. [28:34] Um, so we submitted our monthly report. [28:37] Be glad to answer any questions regarding the monthly report. [28:41] Seeing none. [28:45] All right, uh, some things that are not on the monthly report, uh, just as a recap, [28:50] um, we told you guys the other night we do have a team In Texas, [28:54] they're about a little more than halfway through their deployment cycle right now. [28:59] They're scheduled to come home on the 13th of this month. [29:03] I talked to them this morning. [29:05] They're healthy, they're well, they have all the resources they need and then some. [29:10] They were bragging that they got some good Texas brisket the other night, [29:14] so one of the locals cooked for them. [29:17] So they're, they're fat and healthy and— Enjoying it and rubbing it in my face. [29:22] What's the status of the fire? [29:23] Um, so last I'd heard yesterday, uh, a little over 90,000 acres still burnt. [29:29] Uh, they're at about 57% containment. Texas has had several other wildfires jump [29:35] Texas has had several other wildfires jump up. [29:35] They had one yesterday. [29:37] It was about 500 acres that they were able to handle outside of this fire. [29:43] They've got quite a few going right now. So it's hot and dry down there. [29:48] You know, it's hot and humid here. It's hot and dry there. [29:52] So they're looking at about 100, [29:55] 110-degree temperature with a humidity level of less than 20%. [29:59] Okay. [30:00] So super hot, super dry. And so everything's a big tinderbox right now. [30:04] But right now, the Tennessee team, the Tennessee Task Force team that's down [30:09] Tennessee Task Force team that's down there, [30:09] the strike team, they're slated to come back on the 13th. So they, uh, they're [30:14] back on the 13th. So they, uh, they're good. [30:14] Uh, they're, they're getting rest, they're getting plenty to eat. [30:18] Uh, so, and they're, they're working hard. They're, they're representing us well. [30:23] Um, so I wanted to just refresh on that. Uh, next, uh, that's not on the agenda. [30:28] I just wanted to touch on the Murray County Fair. Uh, we had a great fair. [30:32] Uh, we couldn't have done it without all of our partners. [30:36] Um, the Sheriff's Department showed up and showed out. [30:39] Uh, Fire Department was amazing. EMS was there with us. [30:43] If you didn't get around at the fair, I challenge you to come see us next time, [30:47] the next fair that we have. See what we put into it. [30:51] See what resources we're devoting to the fair to make sure that people have a fun, [30:56] safe time. [30:57] It was good. [30:58] It was a good event. It was hot. [31:00] We had several medical emergencies while we were out there, [31:04] but they were all quickly handled and no major catastrophes. [31:08] Unlike the state fair, Wilson County Fair, who had some mechanical failures, [31:13] we did not. So everything went well, went according to plan, [31:18] but we couldn't have done it without our partners. So big hats off to them. [31:23] They make everything work well. [31:25] So with that, if you will indulge me, [31:27] I know we've got several new commissioners and there's a budget amendment. [31:32] Yes. [31:33] I know we have a budget amendment on our agenda tonight, [31:37] but I just quickly wanted to cover our radio project to make sure that everybody [31:44] radio project to make sure that everybody was [31:44] on the same page going forward and that it was as transparent as possible. [31:51] So if you guys will indulge me for a minute. This has been a long, lengthy [31:57] minute. This has been a long, lengthy process. [31:57] We've been going on 5 years now. [32:01] Right, Sheriff? [32:02] 18 months. [32:03] Um, so what we're doing is we're upgrading and changing all of the infrastructure [32:09] for our emergency radio communication system for all of public safety in Murray [32:14] County. So it's not just buying some radios and putting them in patrol units [32:20] radios and putting them in patrol units and [32:20] fire trucks and calling it good. [32:22] We're building new tower sites, we're running fiber lines, we're running Uh, [32:28] we're doing microwave shots from tower to tower, [32:31] and there's a lot of work that goes into that on the back end. [32:35] So we're building the infrastructure for the future. [32:39] We're trying to make sure that it's as future-proof as possible. [32:43] And so part of that is upgrading our dispatch consoles through 911. [32:48] So, uh, this is kind of just a snapshot what their dispatch screens look like. [32:54] These are some of the old legacy things. [32:57] We have so far replaced all of the consoles at the dispatch centers, [33:01] and we're working currently at upgrading all of the fiber connectivity to all of [33:07] them so that they have a connection to the Nashville core. [33:11] So you, you reference dispatch centers? [33:14] Yes, sir. [33:15] Plural? [33:16] Yes, sir. [33:17] So is that private information? [33:19] No, sir, it's not. Uh, so we have 3 dispatch centers. [33:23] We have 1 PSAP, which is Murray County 911. [33:26] They take the 911 calls, and they dispatch Columbia Police and Fire, [33:31] Murray County Fire, Mount Pleasant Police and Fire from that center. [33:36] If it is a medical call, [33:38] they roll the call or roll the information to Murray Regional EMS. [33:43] Murray Regional EMS, their ambulance service, has their own dispatch center, [33:48] and they dispatch there. Sheriff's Department's the same way. [33:53] They have their own dispatch center out at Lawson-White. [33:57] And so— We've got 3 separate dispatch centers, [34:01] and so this will connect them all so that they will have connectivity to the radio [34:07] system. One of the things that this system does is it is there's a computer system [34:13] backbone to it, not like the old computers that had crystals in it and you had to [34:19] tune it, right? We've gone long ways away from that. [34:22] Everything's computer-based now, [34:25] so this allows us to have a really solid connection. With a microwave shot backup. [34:31] So we have multiple redundancies built into it and allows us to have multiple [34:37] into it and allows us to have multiple ways [34:37] to communicate from our dispatch centers to our folks in the field. [34:42] So just a quick overview. This is a quick diagram. [34:46] If you'll look and see the circles are where our towers are. [34:50] Now, That's a network of towers built throughout the county. [34:54] The green lines represent microwave shots that are already in place. [34:59] Those are up and functioning, but not— we're not totally online yet, [35:04] but those lines are set in stone. [35:07] The blue lines with the red X through, [35:10] we don't have those set in place because we're waiting on that top left one, [35:15] that top left circle, that tower site is in the Hampshire community, [35:20] and we're going to get to that here in a minute. [35:24] And we need to address some things with that one. [35:27] But you can see the blue squares or blue squares with the yellow lines. [35:33] Those are dispatch centers. [35:35] The yellow lines represent that fiber connectivity, [35:38] so they're able to talk to the radio system, [35:42] which allows them to talk all the way across the state of Tennessee. [35:47] So, really brings us to the 21st century. So, here's some more pictures. [35:52] A lot of this is gibberish. [35:54] I don't expect anybody to really get into the details of it, [35:58] but this is kind of how our fiber backhaul works, right? [36:03] And so, that just represents the 3 centers. CPWS is providing us the fiber. [36:08] And then it goes to Nashville through an AT&T line. [36:12] So we've been actively working on all of that. [36:15] On top of that, we've been working on all of the codeplug development and fleet [36:21] mapping. So basically, [36:23] those are big terms for we've got to figure out which order all of the radio [36:28] channels need to be in, because each agency has a different need. [36:33] So When you look at all of the different agencies and even inside in each agency, [36:39] agencies and even inside in each agency, a— [36:39] the sheriff has a different need than an SRO officer. [36:43] The SRO has a different need than the SWAT commander. [36:47] So we have to build each one individually. [36:50] That's a lot of work that goes into programming all of that. [36:55] It's not a simple thing. And then fleet mapping. [36:58] So we're working with all of our public safety partners and the school system on [37:04] timeline on when we can install all of this equipment into their apparatus and [37:10] this equipment into their apparatus and their [37:10] vehicles with minimal downtime, right? [37:13] That's a, that's a huge challenge when you have officers and deputies on the road [37:19] every day. It's hard to take a fire truck out of service for days on end when we [37:25] have to install radio equipment. [37:27] We can't take school buses off the road to install radios. [37:32] So we have to work through all of that and schedule all that. [37:36] So that's a big piece of what we've been doing in the background. [37:41] So let's talk about the sites for a second. [37:44] So up here, this represents all of the sites that we will have. [37:49] Either our equipment on or the state's equipment is on it and we have access to [37:55] equipment is on it and we have access to it. [37:55] So those top 4, Hampshire, Coleoca, Columbia, Coleoca, Fire Station 30, [38:00] which is Lecia, those are all being worked on. The yellow ones are not there. [38:06] They haven't been constructed yet. Anything in green is already constructed. [38:11] So steel in the sky, building is set. We have power there, we have fiber there. [38:17] All of that is already done. [38:19] The 2 outstanding is the Hampshire one and the one at Lecia. [38:24] We struck a deal with the state. [38:26] They are funding 100% of the one at Fire Station 30. [38:30] We own the property, we will own the tower, we own the building, [38:35] we own all of the equipment. They're paying for it. [38:38] Okay. [38:40] It benefits the state because of THP, TDOT, all of those. [38:44] When you look at their map, [38:46] there was a huge hole between Murray and Giles County down to the state line where [38:51] they didn't have radio communications. [38:54] So this benefits them, [38:55] but we get the benefit of it covering the eastern part of Murray County. [39:00] The one in Hampshire is the last one that we are fiscally responsible for that we [39:06] have to pay pay for. We have most of the money, if not all of the money for that. [39:11] Let me go— we'll get into that. [39:13] So just some more information about what's already there. [39:17] So this is the one in Culebra. Here's a picture of that. [39:21] This is what the building looks like. [39:23] So all of these buildings are precast concrete structures that can withstand a [39:29] pretty significant storm. [39:30] These towers range anywhere from 200 to 300 feet in height. depending on location. [39:36] They all have backup generators with multiple ways to continue functioning [39:41] multiple ways to continue functioning should [39:41] they need to. So this is what the inside looks like. They don't let me in there. [39:47] Jeremy, my radio tech, [39:48] said I'm not allowed to take my pipe wrench back in there anymore. [39:53] He gets real nervous when I show up and I have a pair of dikes in my hand. [39:58] But that's what it all looks And so you can see, [40:01] if you're familiar with radio systems, [40:04] the black boxes on the left side there towards the bottom of that rack, [40:09] that's the brains of the unit, right? It's essentially— it's called a 6-pack. [40:14] It's 6 computers that run the system, right? And they're all working in tandem. [40:19] And then you have some network switches in the middle, [40:23] and then you have some repeaters on the far right-hand side. [40:27] Okay. [40:29] And you can see from that picture, [40:32] we have a lot of room for expandability in the future. [40:35] So we can expand the system as the community keeps growing. [40:40] Here's the Columbia site. So just again, it's a lot of the same. [40:44] They look very similar, and they're done that way on purpose. [40:49] That helps cut down on maintenance and upkeep and all of those things. [40:54] This one was in conjunction with the City of Columbia. [40:58] We signed an MOU with the City of Columbia. That is technically their tower. [41:03] It is our building. It is all of our equipment on their tower. [41:08] And we've signed a legal MOU with them that allows us access to that. [41:13] The site in Mount Pleasant, very similar. It is near a water tank. [41:17] The difference with this one is there is quite a bit of land up there at the top. [41:23] That allowed us to build the water tank far away from their infrastructure. [41:29] So if they get to the point where they need to expand or maintain their tank, [41:34] do anything with it, [41:36] what you can't see in this is that tower is actually outside of their fence. [41:41] It's in a separate fenced-in area. So we're a good 50 to 75 feet from their [41:47] we're a good 50 to 75 feet from their tank. [41:47] Okay. [41:51] Again, Fire Station 30 is yet to be constructed. [41:55] All of the steel for the tower, the building, [41:58] all of the other equipment that goes in it is on site. We have it. We're ready. [42:04] We're waiting on the state to finish the studies, the environmental studies. [42:10] Once they finish the environmental studies, they'll start construction. [42:15] We anticipate the environmental studies to come back in the next couple weeks. [42:21] So this is the one that is a little bit of our issue right now. [42:26] So originally when we started this process, [42:29] the general plan was to put this site adjacent to a county— [42:34] Murray County Water System water tank. [42:37] And that was the the game plan from the get-go. [42:40] Murray County Water System had voted to approve that. They did have some [42:46] approve that. They did have some questions. [42:46] We felt very confident answering all of their questions, [42:51] but it was in close proximity to their tank. [42:54] Recently, we received a letter from their attorney that said, "Hey, listen, [43:00] we know we agreed to it, but we're not." Real fond of you guys building this here. [43:06] There's a lot that goes into this, so we reconvened and we talked about it, [43:11] and we looked for alternatives that we can solve the problem. [43:16] One of the challenges faced with building it where we had originally planned is we [43:22] only had a 50-foot by 50-foot area to build this tower and building. [43:27] We can fit it on there, but the construction piece of it leaves a lot to [43:33] construction piece of it leaves a lot to be desired. [43:34] It raises a whole lot of challenges with the current property owner's current [43:40] property. Realistically, we need— we would need to buy more property. [43:45] We dealt with— we brought Robert into the— Robert Caldeiro into that conversation. [43:51] The mayor was in that conversation. And so we started looking at other alternatives. [43:57] What alternatives? What we came up with is less than a quarter mile down the street, [44:04] there's a parcel for sale. [44:06] We don't own the parcel that we would be putting this on per the plan as it stands [44:12] today. The proposal is to buy the piece of property down the street. It's 3 acres. [44:18] It's within 10 feet of elevation. [44:21] To what we currently are, so we feel very confident. [44:24] We've talked with all the engineers at Motorola. [44:28] We feel very confident that we won't have any issues moving it a quarter mile down [44:34] the street. At the end of the day, Murray County would own the property, [44:40] the building, the tower, every bit of it, and nobody can kick us off. [44:45] If we build it where it currently was planned to be built, [44:49] we don't own the property. Murray County Water System owns the property. [44:55] So that lies a challenge. [44:57] If they need to service the tank, if we need to service the tower, if we grow, [45:03] if we need to expand, if they need to expand, there's no room to do so. [45:08] And it boxes us in. So that leads us to the last agenda item is a Budget amendment [45:14] to purchase 3 acres of property down the street from where we originally had looked [45:20] at this. The price tag on it is $150,000. [45:23] It's a local property owner, local farmer that owns the land. [45:28] He came down on the price and met us at $150,000 for these 3 acres. [45:33] It would allow us to own the property, build on the property. We can fence it [45:39] build on the property. We can fence it off. [45:39] We can do whatever we want with it at that point. [45:43] and give us the ability to expand in the future if we need it. [45:48] The budget amendment shows 2 things on there. The total will show $320,000. [45:53] It is not $320,000. Let me make that perfectly clear, because when I saw that, [45:59] I had a slight heart attack. [46:01] And the finance director and deputy finance director clarified to me it's [46:07] finance director clarified to me it's moving [46:07] money, $160,000, from debt services to Capital and then spending the money from [46:13] capital. So that's why it shows the total. [46:16] The total amount for the piece of property is $160,000. [46:21] So that's the budget amendment. Be glad to answer any questions. [46:25] I know that's a lot of information, [46:28] but I wanted to make sure everybody was up to speed. [46:32] Some of you have heard this spiel for the last several years, [46:37] and I appreciate your patience. We just want to do it right from the get-go. [46:42] Okay. [46:45] Attorney Delvis. [46:46] Thank you, Chairman. I just wanted to make a comment. [46:49] I've been working with Director Hardy on this, [46:51] and I think he's been very thorough and diligent in his analysis with the [46:55] diligent in his analysis with the different [46:56] options that are sort of laid before us. [46:58] And so I've, you know, [46:59] I just wanted to sort of speak to the fact that this was looked at in a very [47:03] intelligent way, I think, and that from a legal standpoint, [47:06] this seems to me to be the sort of the clearest path forward to allow us the [47:11] autonomy we need and also to kind of not obstruct us from like a zoning and [47:15] obstruct us from like a zoning and building [47:15] standpoint as well. So I just wanted to say, uh, [47:18] that there was a lot of time spent looking at this. [47:21] So, um, that's it. [47:22] Thank you. Thank you. [47:26] Commissioner Mullen. [47:26] Thank you, Chair. Uh, Director Hardy, is that $160,000— [47:31] is that equitable to the property appraisal? [47:34] Has that property been appraised? [47:37] Um, Mark, has that come back yet? There— I know they were working on it. [47:42] I have not seen it come back, [47:44] but that's something that obviously we would need to make sure that that property [47:50] appraises for that amount. I don't think it should be a problem. [47:54] And then beyond that $160,000, what is the total build-out of that tower? [47:59] Um, each tower, rough Rough estimate, because each one's a little bit different, [48:05] we're looking at about $1.5 million, [48:07] but that's already been budgeted and accounted for. [48:11] There may be a little, um, you know, additional, possibly, [48:15] just for complete transparency, if we ran into, you know, [48:19] a huge rock or something crazy. We haven't core drilled the property yet. [48:24] We do have a site walk with Motorola Today's the 9th? Tomorrow. [48:28] And so we'll have a site walk with them tomorrow. [48:32] That was the soonest we could get out here with them. [48:36] But for everything that we've talked with them, looked at it, [48:40] we don't foresee any major issues going forward. [48:43] We do have some money set aside for contingencies. [48:47] So if we ran into a small issue, [48:49] we do have a little bit of funding to be able to absorb that into the current [48:54] budget. [48:55] Okay. But you were already going to build on the previous location, [48:59] so that money's already been set aside? [49:01] Yes, sir. [49:01] Yes, sir. So all the construction funds are already there. [49:05] We're just trying to buy the property to go with it. [49:08] Last question, is the environmental study still standing, [49:11] or does that also change with it being a quarter mile down the road? [49:15] So we'll have to redo the environmental study. [49:18] So we talked— we had to do an environmental study, FAA study, FCC study, [49:23] all of that. So the NEPA and SHEPA studies, all of those will have to be [49:27] studies, all of those will have to be redone. [49:28] The FAA study will have to be redone, but it's in the same, you know, [49:32] it's within a few hundred yards. [49:34] Same airspace. [49:36] Yeah, it's in the same airspace and nothing really changes. [49:39] We do have to jump through those hoops, but that should be expedited. [49:42] Thank you, Director. [49:44] Thank you. [49:45] Yes, Attorney Dobies. [49:47] Thank you, Chairman. [49:48] I just wanted to Sort of touch on Commissioner Mullen's question regarding [49:52] appraisals. They're sort of in a weird, like, interesting area in terms of the [49:56] like, interesting area in terms of the law. [49:56] I think the reason being is they don't typically like to release appraisal [50:00] typically like to release appraisal numbers [50:00] before a deal is finalized, [50:02] and I think that's to sort of effectuate the county to actually make a deal, [50:06] you know, so that there's not, you know, [50:08] other parties kind of in the way trying to buy up that property and adjust the price [50:12] and conflate things and change things. So— [50:15] Okay. [50:15] I'm unaware of sort of the appraisal aspect of that, but, you know, [50:19] I don't know if this ties in, Director Hardy, but, you know, [50:22] there's a pretty hearty, I would say, like, [50:25] inspection aspect of the agreement that we're looking into that I think provides [50:29] we're looking into that I think provides us [50:29] a lot of credence to make sure that the property that we need is also, you know, [50:33] appropriate for what we're trying to do. [50:36] So, yeah. [50:37] Commissioner, if I can add into that. [50:40] So in that agreement with the property owner for that price, [50:45] there is a clause in there that allows us to walk away in the next 45 days should we [50:52] determine that through engineering that this is not a viable option for whatever [50:58] reason. We walk away, and there's no harm, no foul to either party. [51:04] And that was courtesy of Mr. Doby. [51:07] Okay. You done? [51:12] Yes, sir. [51:13] Thank you. Commissioner Holt. Jeffrey, easement and roadway to this tower? [51:20] Yeah. So neither one of them— [51:22] neither one of them is an issue because we have plenty of road frontage. [51:27] It's 3 acres, so it meets all zoning ordinances. [51:31] The other place, the The previous property at the water tower, [51:35] it has a right-of-way with the landowner to the property, [51:39] and there is no road frontage to it. [51:42] We would have to buy a minimum of an acre of his property, [51:46] which would dissect his property in half. [51:49] And I don't think that property owner really wants to dissect his property in [51:55] really wants to dissect his property in half, [51:55] if possible. [51:56] Thank you, Chairman. [51:59] Commissioner Romesburg. [52:00] You know, I know probably a lot more about what's going on than some people because [52:07] of my history and everything. And I support this goal. [52:11] But I will say $50,000 an acre gives me some heartburn. It really does. [52:16] And I just want to make, make that statement. [52:20] But, you know, I'm behind you 100% and we need this. But $50,000 an acre. [52:25] Thank you, Chairman. [52:27] Yes, sir. [52:28] Commissioner Stovall. Thank you, Chairman. Jeff, I was just checking. [52:33] I know some of those pictures had propane tanks and stuff. [52:37] And propane is pretty high right about now, I heard. [52:44] Is there any natural gas pipelines in those areas that you could connect to to [52:48] those areas that you could connect to to use [52:48] instead of propane? [52:49] Instead of those propane tanks? Because in the future it's going to be, I know. [52:56] Sir, so our current locations, no. They're pretty remote locations. [53:01] Most of them are on top of a big hill somewhere, well off the roadway. [53:06] So it would not be cheap to run natural gas if it was available at the road. [53:12] The good news is the propane runs the emergency generator. [53:17] So we typically don't have to fill those maybe once a year, if that. [53:23] One of our current sites, we fill it on an as-needed basis, [53:27] and we haven't filled it in probably 2 years. [53:31] So it really, really isn't a huge concern just because we've got a pretty robust [53:37] power system there. So it's usually non-issue. [53:41] It's just there just in case the power goes out. [53:45] Gotcha. [53:45] Gotcha. [53:45] Yes, sir. [53:46] Thank you. [53:47] Yes, sir. [53:49] Commissioner Burford? [53:50] Yes, sir. [53:52] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a couple of quick questions. [53:55] Sir. [53:55] What's the footprint required for the tower and the building and the accessories [54:02] with it? Ideally, minimum's 100 by 100. [54:05] We can squeeze it into a 50 by 50 area if needed, [54:09] but 100 by 100 gives us ample room to work around there. [54:14] One of the challenges though, even on the 100 by 100 platform, [54:19] is getting the crane in there and being able to stage equipment and then move the [54:25] equipment to raise that 300-foot tower. [54:29] So we, if we only have 100 by 100, [54:31] that really limits That's how we can construct it. That takes a little bit [54:37] construct it. That takes a little bit longer. [54:38] It costs a little bit more because we have to bring in specialized cranes to do [54:44] that. So that's— does that answer your question, sir? Yes, sir. [54:50] My other question is, that's a relatively small area for 3 acres. [54:55] Any potential use for the rest of the land? Whatever you want to dream up. [55:01] We're open. The property that we're looking at, [55:05] not all 3 acres is viable just because of the terrain. [55:09] The back probably acre, acre and a half, [55:13] maybe acre and a quarter is on a pretty steep hill. [55:17] Okay. [55:18] So realistically, there's only about an— [55:21] about a 2-acre area that we could build on. on this 3-acre parcel. [55:27] And that's the parcel that was for sale. [55:30] That would— [55:32] I'd kind of echo Commissioner Romsberg with the land not being viable. [55:37] That's, that's an awful lot of money per acre for nonviable property except for [55:43] acre for nonviable property except for this [55:43] one area. But thank you very much for your work on it. [55:47] Commissioner Barnes. [55:52] Hi, Director Hardy. How you doing? [55:54] Good, sir. [55:55] How are you? [55:55] Good. [55:56] I just have some, some quick questions. [55:59] If, if this was not to come to fruition, this purchase is not made, [56:03] how much longer would that extend the timeline on trying to get this radio [56:08] timeline on trying to get this radio system up [56:09] and going? [56:09] Uh, that's a great question, um, and I, [56:13] I don't have an exact answer for you. [56:17] Um, I can tell you that my fear is It— [56:21] if we continue pushing forward with our current location, [56:27] that it could come to lawsuits, [56:30] and that would delay it however long that would take. [56:35] Give me an honest belief of timeline. [56:37] If it didn't go through, [56:38] how long would it take to find another property and/or continue with the current [56:43] property? What type of an extension Would you expect on something like that if this— [56:48] 6 months to a year minimum. [56:49] Another year. Sheriff Rowland, can I ask you a question real quick? [56:53] Hopefully you don't [56:58] have to use them [57:01] today. [57:03] Sheriff, how poor is the radio reception in some of our outlying areas for your, [57:08] for your deputies? [57:10] Nonexistent. Several. [57:11] You take Vestal Hollow, the Bethel area, you take Hampshire, Cathage Creek and all. [57:17] I mean, it— we have several just completely dead spots all throughout the [57:22] completely dead spots all throughout the county. [57:22] So it's— [57:23] so nothing's changed as far as the deputies being able to reach the [57:26] deputies being able to reach the dispatcher, [57:27] the dispatcher being able to reach the deputies, [57:30] imperative information being relayed to other agencies that may be responding, [57:34] or Lord forbid, one of our deputy sheriffs being in trouble and not being able to [57:39] tell anybody. Nothing's changed. [57:41] I think it's pretty imperative that something move forward. That's all I have. [57:45] Thank you. [57:46] Commissioner Cohen. [57:49] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [57:52] Jeff, I got a question. What is— [57:54] who maintains the towers and what does it cost us to maintain them? [57:58] We maintain them in-house. [58:00] Right now I have one radio tech that maintains everything. [58:04] So we we look at it in two different ways. One, we have to maintenance the property. [58:10] So our office maintains the property. We bush hog it. We weed eat it. [58:14] We spray for weeds. We do all of that in house. We take care of every bit of that. [58:20] The actual tower, the building, the generator, all of that again, [58:24] we take care of that. [58:26] The radio communications equipment because we're going on the state's. Network. [58:31] We've got an agreement with TACN, Tennessee Advanced Communications Network. [58:36] They maintain all of the computer systems that are running everything because it [58:42] benefits the state. So they pay for that maintenance. [58:45] We pay for the building, the generator, the fuel, the fencing, that stuff. [58:50] And that's all internal to our office, and I have one guy that does that. [58:55] Okay, thank you. [58:57] Yes, sir. [58:58] Commissioner Morrow. [58:59] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [59:00] For those of you who think that that 2-acre site might not be viable, [59:04] let me remind you of one thing. There's 2 kinds of land in Hampshire. [59:08] There's hills and valleys. [59:09] If you put a radio tower in a valley, you get zero signal out. [59:13] You put it on a hill, you're not going to have much space to put it. [59:17] So if you've got 2 acres that you can build on, [59:19] that will work as well as anything around there because there's not much of it [59:24] there. Thank you. [59:25] Yes, sir. Commissioner Sumner. [59:26] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [59:28] Jeff, can you tell everybody the total cost for this project? [59:32] I think you didn't mention that. [59:34] Could you just set— just so everybody knows what we're talking about here? [59:39] So originally, 5-ish years ago, [59:41] the county commission agreed to pay $10 million for the system. [59:45] About 2 years into the project, we expanded that by another million dollars. [59:50] So we've got an $11 million project here. [59:53] We've expended— and Doug can correct me if I'm wrong— we're at about $8, [59:58] $8.5 million so far into this project. [1:00:01] So in the grand scheme of things, $160,000 is not a very large— [1:00:05] It's 1.5% of the total cost of the project. [1:00:09] So it's not that much of the total cost there. [1:00:13] Correct. [1:00:14] So just wanted to get that out there so everybody— [1:00:17] We kind of know what the percentage of the, of the, of the land, of the, [1:00:21] of the tower site purchase was in conjunction with, you know, [1:00:24] the total cost of the project, because it's really a minuscule amount. [1:00:28] If you want to talk about the grand scheme of the project, that's kind of— [1:00:32] That's true. [1:00:33] That we talked about 5 years ago in 2021, 2022, when we funded it, you know, [1:00:36] it's going to be a game changer for the whole county, all the, [1:00:39] all the public safety in the county. [1:00:42] Absolutely. [1:00:42] The whole county. And this with interoperability with other neighboring [1:00:46] interoperability with other neighboring counties as [1:00:47] well as Nashville. [1:00:48] Yes, sir. [1:00:49] Thank you. [1:00:50] Commissioner Barnes. [1:00:52] I'm going to leave you alone after this one. [1:00:54] You're good. [1:00:55] What's the size of the current water tower lot versus the size of the property that [1:00:59] you're looking at right now? I know it's 3 acres, what you're looking at now. [1:01:03] What's the water tower property size? [1:01:05] I want to say it's It's 50 by 50, 75 by 75, [1:01:09] and then they purchased a 50 by 50 area adjacent to it, [1:01:13] and that's what they allotted for us, 50 foot by 50 foot. [1:01:18] And their current site is— it's either 50 by 50 or 75 by 75. [1:01:23] It's not very big, sir. [1:01:25] Thank you. [1:01:33] Jeff, I, I don't see— Commissioner Grooms, go ahead. [1:01:40] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a statement. $8.5 million in? [1:01:46] Yes, sir. [1:01:46] You talking about citizen safety? [1:01:48] Absolutely. [1:01:49] Officer safety? [1:01:51] More than ever. [1:01:52] First responder safety? [1:01:53] Yes, sir. [1:01:54] It's a no-brainer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:01:58] Yes, sir. Uh, one quick question from me. [1:02:01] Yes, sir. [1:02:01] Just because I think it should be asked. The present owner wouldn't sell 2 acres? [1:02:07] No, sir. [1:02:09] Even if we offered him more per acre? [1:02:12] I don't believe so. [1:02:13] Okay. [1:02:14] He, he, um, the, the property behind and to the side of it, uh, [1:02:19] is a chert pit that he owns and operates out of. [1:02:24] He'd been round and round with building and zoning regarding some of that, [1:02:30] and so he deeded off 3 acres and is willing to sell that. [1:02:35] Okay. [1:02:38] Commissioner Combs. [1:02:39] Jeff, how are you? Good, sir. You? Good to see you again. [1:02:43] Yes, sir. [1:02:44] Being intimately familiar with towers, owning some myself, And this is just— [1:02:50] forgive my ignorance, and I know you wouldn't want to do this probably, [1:02:55] but is it possible that you can lease out space on your towers to gain more income? [1:03:01] Absolutely not. When you do that, you run the risk of dealing with nonpayment. [1:03:07] You have the potential for other people to interfere with our public safety [1:03:13] infrastructure. This is critical infrastructure to protect not only our [1:03:18] infrastructure to protect not only our citizens but [1:03:19] our first responders. [1:03:21] And while I can see the financial value in doing so, [1:03:25] I don't think the risk is worth the reward. [1:03:28] Are there some— [1:03:31] now I understand about frequencies and bleedover and things like that. [1:03:36] Is there any avenue that would be low risk? [1:03:39] And just something— I just thought it was something to consider. Yes, sir. [1:03:44] We've talked about that. [1:03:46] That would need to be addressed through the land use policies the county has as [1:03:52] the land use policies the county has as far [1:03:52] as cell towers and those type things. [1:03:54] There was some conversation a while ago about us putting stuff on cell towers, [1:04:00] but again, those things change hands very quickly and ownership And then who owns [1:04:06] it, who has access to it. And we're talking critical infrastructure. [1:04:10] Um, you know, again, you know, buying this piece of property, building a tower, [1:04:16] we own it, we control it. Um, and nobody can tell us different. [1:04:20] Well, I agree with that. [1:04:22] Um, thank you for what you're doing and thank you for your time. Yes, sir. [1:04:27] Yes, sir. Seeing no more lights, [1:04:30] I'd like to ask for someone to make a motion to send this to budget. [1:04:35] Commissioner— we did already have— we already had a— we did not have a motion. [1:04:41] already had a— we did not have a motion. Okay. [1:04:42] Commissioner Romsberg, and a second would be Commissioner Mullen. [1:04:47] Not consent, you're correct. This will go to the budget for their consideration. [1:04:53] All in favor say aye. [1:04:55] Aye. [1:04:56] Any opposed? It moves forward. [1:04:58] Thank you all very much. [1:04:59] Thank you for Thank you for taking a few minutes of your time tonight. [1:05:02] I greatly appreciate it. Is there any other questions, sir? [1:05:04] Oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner. [1:05:07] I have an unrelated question, so I was waiting for you to get through that. [1:05:11] Jeff, a few years ago, uh, when we were— 15 of us were first new commissioners, [1:05:16] you folks were good enough to let us know what you do for a living and the equipment [1:05:21] that you do and how you do your operation, and we got some CTAS credit for that. [1:05:25] We've talked about this before. [1:05:27] Would you be willing to do that again for this group? [1:05:30] Absolutely. Several have asked for that. [1:05:33] We've looked for— we started looking for a date that would be conducive to that, [1:05:39] probably this winter, maybe before Christmas, if that's acceptable. [1:05:44] That's perfect. Yeah, sometime in the winter. [1:05:48] For the commissioners, we're working on— we, Lisa, We're working on a couple, [1:05:54] couple projects that may be able to give us full credit for the year. [1:06:00] I would highly recommend that we do the one that Jeff does. [1:06:05] Of all the classes I've taken, the CTAS classes I've taken, most in Nashville, [1:06:11] because it was local, [1:06:13] but it was probably the most informative class that we attended. [1:06:18] Thank you. [1:06:19] We know the people, you know the equipment, you know what goes on up there. [1:06:22] There's a lot goes on up on that top of that hill that nobody knows about. [1:06:25] Yes, sir. [1:06:26] Those funny little people that work up there. [1:06:31] Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Chair. [1:06:33] Yes, sir. Mr. Holdt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:06:37] I just wanted to address— speak if you can— just wanted to address this [1:06:43] can— just wanted to address this committee. [1:06:44] And the other commissioners to be upfront and let everybody know this fine man is my [1:06:51] son-in-law. And I think of him as a son. There you go. [1:06:55] So, so I'm just trying to be upfront. [1:07:00] Thank you, Chairman. [1:07:00] Yes, sir. Thank you, Jeff. I believe that's all of it. [1:07:03] Thank y'all very much. Thank you, Dad. [1:07:10] Thanks, Dad. [1:07:11] Murray County Fire Chief Periut. [1:07:13] Good evening. We submitted our [1:07:19] report. We included last month [1:07:25] and also the last 12 months. [1:07:33] If you have any questions on that, I'd be happy to go over it. [1:07:36] If you don't, Deputy Chief Schatz has a little presentation. [1:07:40] Okay, move forward. See no lights. [1:07:44] Excuse me. [1:07:45] Uh, good afternoon. Uh, just our normal monthly, uh, [1:07:48] we try to run through just some of our incidents, uh, [1:07:52] for the month and just give you our run numbers. [1:07:55] Uh, for the month of August, uh, we made 251 incidents. [1:07:58] I believe that's the first time we broke 250 calls in a month. [1:08:02] You can just see the year-over-year call volume, [1:08:05] 1,797 year-to-date through August 31st, compared to last year was 1,383. [1:08:10] August 3rd, just commercial vehicle rollover on Snow Creek Road in the Santa [1:08:15] rollover on Snow Creek Road in the Santa Fe [1:08:15] community. August 5th, [1:08:16] we had a vehicle extrication on New Lewisburg Highway at Kinzer Lane. [1:08:20] I think Chief Prude— [1:08:22] it almost happened like directly in front of him on his way home from the fire [1:08:27] station. So just glancing head-on collision there. [1:08:30] August 7th, we had a house fire on Steve Drive off Williamsport Pike. [1:08:34] Multiple cars in the front of the driveway or in the front of the home. [1:08:39] There was a high chance of someone being in the home. [1:08:42] There's a passerby that reported the fire. [1:08:45] We requested mutual aid immediately from the City of Columbia. [1:08:49] It's outside of our auto aid agreement with them where they're automatically [1:08:53] dispatched. So they immediately sent engine company and battalion chief. [1:08:58] Their engine and our engine showed up simultaneously, went to work, [1:09:02] just worked really well together, seamless. Just a couple pictures there. [1:09:07] August 8th, we had a head-on collision on Pulaski Highway near the Giles County [1:09:12] line. Had, I believe, 6 patients, [1:09:14] a total of 3 ambulances transported about 4 people from that incident. [1:09:18] August 10th, had another commercial vehicle rollover. This one was on I-65. [1:09:23] 65 at the 40-mile marker. [1:09:25] Good thing about this is, uh, [1:09:27] I was in a really bad spot as far as like visibility and those new TDOT trucks [1:09:32] arrive very quickly, the help trucks that are outside of the metropolitan areas. [1:09:37] And so they're going all the way to the state line now. [1:09:40] And so we had 2 of those show up in a, um, as soon as we requested them, [1:09:45] they're there immediately and they're showing up even faster now. [1:09:49] Um, so that's been a big benefit and a big safety for our responders. [1:09:53] Both of us, law enforcement on the interstate, [1:09:56] having those help trucks set up and get traffic off of it. So it's been nice. [1:10:01] August 10th, New Lewisburg Highway near Sevi Heights had a motor vehicle accident [1:10:06] rollover. Elderly female was trapped in there and we extricated her. [1:10:10] Brick Heights Road on August 10th had a camper fire. [1:10:14] Again, vehicle in— is a permanently occupied Camper, not really supposed to [1:10:18] occupied Camper, not really supposed to happen, [1:10:19] but it's how it is. And there was a vehicle in the driveway, [1:10:23] so they were reporting that there was somebody possibly inside. [1:10:27] Our members arrived, forced entry, and luckily nobody was inside there. [1:10:31] Middle August, 5 of us traveled to Idaho and did a final inspection on our boat. [1:10:36] It was provided by the Gary Sinise Foundation. [1:10:39] It was a grant that paid for the entire boat. [1:10:42] It's just, it's already changed the way we operate on the Duck River with an inboard [1:10:47] jet, so we're not tearing up props and stuff anymore. [1:10:51] But it's a completely different boat than what we're used to, [1:10:55] a lot of different maintenance things. [1:10:57] So they went through the entire maintenance, [1:11:00] how to break down all the filters and all that, [1:11:03] and then took us out on the river and showed us how to operate it properly [1:11:07] showed us how to operate it properly because [1:11:08] it's a different boat than what we're used to operating. [1:11:11] So August 14th, we had an interagency water supply training with Columbia Fire [1:11:16] Department. I think both up at emergency management and at their Station 3 off Bear [1:11:22] Creek Pike. Just something that we're doing monthly or multiple times a month [1:11:26] doing monthly or multiple times a month with [1:11:27] Spring Hill, Columbia, Mount Pleasant, [1:11:29] and that you'll see in a little bit how that's already paid off. [1:11:33] Same day, grass fire in Cathy's Creek in the Hampshire community. [1:11:37] Uh, had a vehicle fire on Mikey Court and Cullyoca. [1:11:41] Uh, just quick shout out to the 911 dispatchers. [1:11:44] They were dealing with a subject on the phone, uh, on that incident that was, uh, [1:11:49] pretty abrasive, um, asking, you know, uh, where— when we're going to be there, [1:11:54] his house was going to catch on fire. [1:11:56] And they, they really took a berating on that one. [1:11:59] So, uh, our 911 dispatchers don't get, uh, enough credit, but They do a great job. [1:12:04] Had a low-angle rescue on Carpenter's Bridge Road. This is actually the Duck [1:12:09] Bridge Road. This is actually the Duck River. [1:12:10] Had a staircase and an elderly person fell down a metal staircase down to the [1:12:14] river's edge. So just did a low-angle rope rescue and set up a landing zone for air [1:12:20] evac. August 17th, I-65 at the 48-mile marker. [1:12:23] Had 2 subjects trapped in a vehicle that was overturned and the roof was flattened [1:12:28] down pretty Pretty, pretty low and, uh, just removed both sides of the vehicle, [1:12:33] landed a helicopter on the interstate for that one. [1:12:36] Uh, next day, August 18th, on the interstate, uh, [1:12:39] I was actually at our pre-bid meeting for the fire station at Marcy Jo's for 431. [1:12:44] So we were at Carter's Creek when this incident came in. [1:12:48] Um, this was just inside the city limits of Spring Hill. [1:12:51] Uh, but again, the volume of fire, uh, we have tankers. [1:12:55] Yeah. [1:12:55] You know, to bring the water. [1:12:57] So we initially dispatched 5 tankers, responded to the incident. [1:13:01] They shuttled about 15,000 to 18,000 gallons of water. [1:13:04] And due to the amount of fire and the heat of the day, the decision was made. [1:13:09] We added 2 additional engines to the incident and our ladder truck. [1:13:13] They set up on the south end of the incident and laid out about 1,800 feet of [1:13:18] incident and laid out about 1,800 feet of hose [1:13:18] to a hydrant. Um, and supplied about over 50,000 gallons of water, uh, [1:13:22] to the incident, which allowed— [1:13:24] the Spring Hill personnel were pretty strapped or pretty exhausted at that [1:13:29] strapped or pretty exhausted at that point. [1:13:29] You know, they've been treating patients, uh, and, you know, [1:13:33] just pulling hand lines and everything in the middle of the day on that nice— [1:13:37] I think the pavement was a day old. So pretty hot out there, uh, for them. [1:13:42] So it gave them a good break and we were able to mitigate the incident much, [1:13:47] much quicker. August 18th, that same day, [1:13:49] had some 2 subjects changing a tire on the side of New Lisbonburg Highway, [1:13:54] 3:30 in the morning. Jack fell and they were both trapped underneath the vehicle. [1:13:58] Hmm. [1:14:00] Rescue got there and they lifted the car off of them, and luckily they were, [1:14:05] I believe, non-critical. Vehicle rollover, Dotson Gap on August 19th. [1:14:09] We had 4 personnel attend swift water training in East Tennessee. [1:14:13] Uh, on the Hiawassee River. So this is the highest certification they get. [1:14:18] They already went to 1. And so they spend 3 days over on the Hiawassee River. [1:14:23] So we got 4 additional trained personnel. They do night operations. It's a long day. [1:14:28] They do all day Saturday and then all through the night, uh, [1:14:32] till the wee hours of the morning training, uh, doing all their night [1:14:36] training, uh, doing all their night operations, [1:14:37] boat work, um, all that kind of stuff. [1:14:39] So, uh, vehicle extrication on Clara Mathis Road. [1:14:42] August 20th, this was a vehicle that was impacted actually at Industrial Park, [1:14:47] traveled several hundred yards to the front of a business down the road, [1:14:52] and we extricated that person and they were flown to Vanderbilt and some serious [1:14:57] injuries. Parsons Bend Road brush fire, [1:14:59] that was I think about 4 or 5 acres that they had there on that fire. [1:15:04] Carter's Creek Pike had a person They had to get out of a deep ditch there, [1:15:08] back up to the roadway, and then they were flown. [1:15:11] You can barely see the helicopter, but they're from the Carter's Creek Fire [1:15:16] they're from the Carter's Creek Fire Station. [1:15:17] It's used pretty regularly for a landing zone, so that's, [1:15:20] that's turned out really well. Their large parking lot there to land helicopters. [1:15:25] Tractor hay baler field fire on August 25th on Tom J. Hitch Parkway. [1:15:30] Again, heat of the day, it was like about 3 o'clock in the afternoon. [1:15:34] It was in the afternoon when this call came in. [1:15:37] It was several acres and a couple hay bales on fire. [1:15:40] August 26th, Pulaski Highway at Stiversville Road had one occupant trapped [1:15:45] Stiversville Road had one occupant trapped in a [1:15:45] vehicle. They had non-critical injuries. [1:15:48] We went to Marshall County, Bryant Station Road. [1:15:51] The house was actually only a few hundred feet into Marshall County. [1:15:55] There's— [1:15:57] they initially responded Got there. [1:16:00] Once they got there, they called for us a little later into the incident, [1:16:05] and we responded with some tankers and some manpower to help them. [1:16:09] And then another hay baler on fire in a field on August 31st on Campbellsville [1:16:14] field on August 31st on Campbellsville Pike. [1:16:15] This got about 4 acres. It was fast-moving. [1:16:18] Wind was pretty brisk that afternoon, extremely hot. [1:16:21] So, and just a few personnel there mitigating that incident. [1:16:25] Uh, the cardiac arrests we had this month, um, uh, [1:16:28] for sure on one on Bear Creek Pike, [1:16:31] I just wanted to give the members a quick shout out. [1:16:34] They had an airway in, had the AutoPulse on the patient, [1:16:38] and had already shocked the patient prior to the ambulance getting there. [1:16:43] For sure on that one. [1:16:44] On the rest of them, I'm not sure about, but Yeah, [1:16:48] several cardiac arrests this month across the county. That is our boat. [1:16:53] It has arrived and we've been training on it. [1:16:56] It'll be lettered tomorrow and we're really excited about that. [1:17:00] And we've already put it to use with a couple incidents already on the Duck [1:17:05] couple incidents already on the Duck River. [1:17:05] And it's just, it's just nice. [1:17:07] I'd always get anxiety when we get these calls on the river because we're always [1:17:13] tearing up props and hitting shoals and dealing with dealing with that. [1:17:17] You know, we've explored jet drives, we've done, we've done it all. [1:17:22] But having this inboard jet is a game changer. And it was no cost to the county. [1:17:27] So— [1:17:28] How shallow will it travel? [1:17:30] Well, it'll jump shoals, like it'll jump out of the water when it has a poly [1:17:35] out of the water when it has a poly bottom. [1:17:36] But they say 3 inches of water is what it needs. [1:17:39] But yeah, we've definitely gone across pretty much no water. [1:17:43] And it's You know, you just scoot right across the shoals. So, yep. [1:17:47] And then I saw something yesterday or the day before, [1:17:51] a missing kayaker off the duck. [1:17:53] Yeah, we— 911 was getting some calls from some, [1:17:56] some concerned people that this kayak was on the river all day and nobody's around [1:18:00] it. They couldn't find anybody. So some people were worried about, about the [1:18:05] people were worried about, about the person. [1:18:05] So they went and checked it out, got all the numbers, ran them. [1:18:09] I think Shane ran them. from OEM and just nothing came back on them. [1:18:13] So luckily the person after the social media, it worked. [1:18:16] They reached out to us yesterday afternoon. We're like, hey, it's mine. [1:18:20] They broke a paddle and close to dark on, I believe he said Saturday, [1:18:24] and just ended up walking through the woods and calling for a ride on the road. [1:18:28] woods and calling for a ride on the road. So. [1:18:28] But naturally people considered he drowned or something. [1:18:32] Yeah. [1:18:33] Yeah. [1:18:33] They had, they had concerns. [1:18:34] Yeah. [1:18:34] About, about their well-being. So, um, and I just had one video. [1:18:39] Um, we had a, uh, we had an incident on Friday, uh, the downpour we got. [1:18:44] We, I think, had 4 to 5 motor vehicle accidents responded to almost [1:18:48] accidents responded to almost simultaneously. [1:18:50] Um, our rescue truck is, uh, is equipped with an in-car camera. [1:18:54] Um, not all of our vehicles are, [1:18:56] but It's something we've been trialing and just really wanted to, I guess, [1:19:01] showcase the expertise of our full-time staff. [1:19:04] Just compare it to you driving your personal vehicle and you are used to [1:19:09] personal vehicle and you are used to driving [1:19:10] your own vehicle and you know its capabilities and limitations. [1:19:14] In my opinion, us having the full-time staff, you know, [1:19:18] this gentleman has driven this truck thousands and thousands and thousands of [1:19:23] thousands and thousands and thousands of miles [1:19:24] and to hundreds and hundreds of calls. [1:19:26] So he's, he's very comfortable in it, uh, [1:19:29] versus like maybe a volunteer that gets in it once every couple of weeks. [1:19:34] Um, so in my opinion, I feel like, you know, [1:19:37] the money we've been investing in the full-time staff to have them there and his [1:19:43] skills and abilities, uh, kept us from spending $1 million to replace this [1:19:48] spending $1 million to replace this vehicle. [1:19:48] So I don't know if you can play it up there or not. [1:19:52] There you go. [1:20:12] A person's making a U-turn. [1:20:13] Looks like they're backing up to get out of their way, [1:20:16] and then they decide they don't want to wait. [1:20:19] And then they— [1:20:26] And they wanted to outrun him. [1:20:27] Oh my goodness. [1:20:28] So, uh, so, um, we, uh, [1:20:34] We rewarded him Friday. [1:20:40] We appreciated his, uh, [1:20:46] his efforts. [1:20:49] Uh, did you call the sheriff? [1:20:50] A few, a few, a few jokes. [1:20:52] Yeah. [1:20:52] But, uh, definitely a close call. Um, and just happy it turned out like it did. [1:20:57] But again, just him being comfortable with that vehicle, [1:20:59] knows its limitations and those kinds of things. [1:21:02] Luckily it wasn't a vehicle that carries water where it can, you know, [1:21:05] cause I think, you know, even talking to him, he's like, you know, [1:21:09] I wouldn't have probably made that abrasive action to the right because it [1:21:13] abrasive action to the right because it would [1:21:13] have turned over, you know, carrying water that, That's our heavy rescue, [1:21:16] so it carries all the equipment, but it doesn't carry water. [1:21:20] So that also contributed to it. So, but any questions? [1:21:22] I don't see any questions. Thank you. [1:21:26] All right, thank you. [1:21:29] Commissioner Morrow. [1:21:29] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [1:21:31] Based on what I've seen from the videos and from that last little— [1:21:34] of the video and all the extrications, [1:21:37] I would say the county needs some kind of a remedial driver's education Thank you. [1:21:41] All right. Thank you. [1:21:45] Thank you. [1:21:47] Yep. [1:21:49] All right. That's all the— well, let's see. We don't have any old business. [1:21:55] The new business has been moved to the October meeting. Has anybody else signed [1:22:01] October meeting. Has anybody else signed up? [1:22:02] Mr. Dial? Got one. Is that for the admin meeting or for the— oh, well, [1:22:07] we don't need it right now. [1:22:09] All right, we've got a couple appointments and announcements. [1:22:14] Appointment of one member to the Civil Service Board. [1:22:18] We don't have anybody yet because she does not wish to be reappointed. [1:22:24] Barry Boyd's position. Okay, so will that come from the mayor's office? [1:22:30] No, that That will come from safety. [1:22:32] Oh, so we need to come up with— yeah, so you guys that are on item B, [1:22:37] you got to find 3 now instead of 2, right? Is that what you're saying? [1:22:42] All right, so we're looking for somebody for that one, uh, [1:22:46] and then if anybody's got anybody in mind, let's bring it up. [1:22:50] But, uh, we do need to talk to them before we bring it to the committee, [1:22:55] make sure they're Uh, acceptable. [1:22:57] But anyway, the announcement of 2 vacancies on the Civil Service Board [1:23:02] vacancies on the Civil Service Board because of [1:23:03] Commissioner Romsberg and Commissioner Holt's resignation from the Civil Service [1:23:08] Board, uh, upon their— can't serve on the commission and the Civil Service Board. [1:23:15] So we— [1:23:17] I guess we'll move that out a month, right? [1:23:19] Yeah. Okay. [1:23:20] All right, seeing no other people, does To comment. [1:23:24] Uh, looking for a motion to adjourn. [1:23:27] Motion by Commissioner Rosberg, seconded by Commissioner Holt. We're adjourned.