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hello alexandra hello
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uh dan is uh is debbie with you

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wait uh just two minutes

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this one

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okay debbie ready

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she said go ahead

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okay good evening this is a board of
zoning appeals meeting uh for mayfield

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village
today is may 2nd 2022

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uh
um this is uh this meeting is being held

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via zoom today
and it is six o'clock

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uh first uh order of business uh that we
have is consideration of meeting minutes

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for april 19 2022.
make a motion to accept

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second
one call

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you to speak labor systems

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yes
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yes

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that's approved
we have one case on the uh the daca

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today case number twenty two zero two
twos uh-04 the applicant is uh john and

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jennifer jurisic
uh of 721 robbery lane

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uh mayfield village four four zero four
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uh permanent parcel number eight
831-25-018

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it's a request for an eight-foot wide
variance from section

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1119.09c to allow for construction of a
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foot wide driveway
a budding property owners on robley lane

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have been notified

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and
jennifer are you going to

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state your case if so i need to swear
you in

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i can
okay uh if you could just hold your

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hand up do you swear to tell the truth
the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth i do okay uh state your case
uh i i know i've provided uh some

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lengthy um
documentation to the board but just as a

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review
uh we currently have an asphalt driveway

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with the concrete apron the concrete
apron came about uh with the sewer

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replacement or the sewer
conversion

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and we are looking to replace our
asphalt driveway which is um by the

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pictures that i have
pictures don't do it justice for how

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terrible it is um we are replacing we
want to replace the asphalt driveway

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with concrete to match the apron
the asphalt driveway is currently 15

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feet we are asking for a variance for 17
feet you could see at the bottom end of

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the concrete driveway there's water
that's pooling

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um
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for a couple of reasons so um
you know the 15 feet is obviously small

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we have two bigger suvs
so the variance the small feet foot

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variants there would help correct that
flooding that happens at the end of the

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concrete driveway
back when the apron was first pulled

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after the sewer conversion we had
brought it to the attention of mr

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morella's attention uh several times
but it was one of those that it was sort

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of wait and see what happened they were
going to come back and grade it a little

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bit better uh the the company that was
doing the the concrete that never

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happened and so we constantly have water
pooling there uh in addition to that we

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have um a third driver almost almost the
third driver in the house and we are

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looking um just to have a small parking
pad just for a small sedan

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in the side of our house uh
that would fit that car so we're

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constantly not juggling cars around
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as it is right now we sort of juggle
cars around with the third car um in the

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driveway it would it would be a
hindrance

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to us and then
um we have a basketball hoop the kids

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playing in the driveway i have two other
children too um so in total we were just

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looking for something like that
um as i mentioned we plan on doing um

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right now we actually had a flower bed
in that place where the parking pad is

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we haven't replaced it so it's sort of
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yes right there so there was a flower
bed there that was surrounded by brick

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we had taken it out
knowing that we were probably going to

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want to do this so it actually doesn't
extend any further than the flower the

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circular flower bed that was there
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so we would like to do that we've talked
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the neighbors
mr and mrs rodriguez who are on that

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side
they have no issues with it

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in addition we talked to
the abutting property owners that are

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listed here we've talked to over half of
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to us or i've seen them out
since the notice has been set out

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no one has any kind of objection at all
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themselves have
parking pads

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some smaller some bigger than us i
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some
driveways just for

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to demonstrate the variability
on robly so

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our what i feel like what we're asking
the board does not

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is not exorbitant compared to what's on
the street and it wouldn't stand out

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um
after we get the parking pad in we would

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actually plan on doing landscaping
around that so it doesn't stand out

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we're actually going to have matching
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um on both the left and right side of
our house

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after we're all said and done so
i i know i provided a lot of information

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in the packets but i'm happy to answer
any kind of questions if there are some

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thanks jennifer and just to be clear
here uh and i think i missed it but uh

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uh dan correct me if i'm wrong
she's asking for two variances is that

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right one of uh the 16 feet
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for the majority of the driveway and
then 24 feet is that true or

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just one i think it's the distance to
the next property because it's nine feet

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instead of ten
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there's nine feet there's nine feet
still between our what what would be

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between our property line and the next
property line so we actually exceed the

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three feet minimum okay
for that um so it would just be the

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the two feet running down well the
two feet that's running down to the one

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foot so i think it's actually like eight
feet um an eight foot variance in one

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part of our driveway and then half below
would be um just a one foot

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feet variance uh because you're allowed
to have 16 right now they have 15 feet

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um and you want to do 24 at the at the
pad to the garage so

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you have to look at
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hey dan let me make sure i heard you're
a little bit sounds like you're in a

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hallway
or if you can get closer to the mic

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perhaps
uh so so you are saying that there are

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two variances being requested here one
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then
an eight foot uh variance also

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look at that way i just did a one
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the total width of 24 feet
um 16 feet is allowed and they wanted to

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extend
the upper portion much larger so i went

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with a much larger variance
request but yeah it i mean it could be

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two if you really want it to be two uh
the one foot um

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extension with at the lower end of the
driveway then

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the upper portion near the garage is an
additional parking pad which you

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extended their seven feet
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yeah thanks for that and i'm i'm sorry
diane um are you are you counsel i i

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haven't met you before yes i'm sorry yes
i'm diane carlton it's nice to meet you

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thank you pleasure
okay uh i just want to make sure that's

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uh clear there too uh john or uh
alexandra any thoughts

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yeah so i uh heard you mentioned that uh
you didn't have this issue with the

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water pooling before the sewer
replacements

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um well it was because it was asphalt
the whole way down and we had the ditch

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so we had a big ditch there okay um if
they just didn't

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grade it enough that there needs to be
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that's so what what we're saying though
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made to improve the sewers in the
village caused

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sort of specific circumstances to your
property that requires this variance

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correct for that piece of advice that is
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and i have a question for you and steve
you're saying it's a one foot uh

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variance for that one section the whole
length but according to drawing it says

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two feet

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well the existing driveway is 15 feet
now you're allowed 16 feet well but the

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variance is
drawing shows they want a two-foot

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variance
right but you're allowed to have 16 16

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feet of one it's just one foot
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jennifer yes when i drove by the house
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on the right hand side of the driveway
that's gonna be close to the

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new pad how's that going to be protected
uh that will be protected so uh actually

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that's a good picture to look at so
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um
right where that dirt spot is is sort of

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where up a little bit more is where the
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pad it actually won't impact that tree
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remain healthy we have no plans to doing
anything with that tree um we have to

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it has you know it's we keep care of it
and trim it as we need to we have no

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plans to remove it
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uh alexandra or
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that tree as well in addition keeping
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um helps with the landscaping too so
it's you know what screens it from the

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view so
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and it does look you know if you look at
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just two driveways down there's one that
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almost twice as wide as the current
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that is actually um
mr monk that is actually one of the

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pictures that i have
there um for the comparison

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yeah so there are definitely wider
driveways in the neighborhood

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this is similar to a pad that was
requested last one on a different

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property too

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we are actually it would be mirroring
the 689 robley right there is what it

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would be very close to so the top left
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is where it would be very close to
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that would be right where i think this
one is different is that they're

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correcting a drainage issue because
that's going to destabilize the driveway

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so they're repairing a flaw that wasn't
there before and so it's a unique

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feature of this plot

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um

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the
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the 16 feet jennifer
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you're saying is exclusively

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to uh help with the uh the drainage
issue is that correct

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that is correct so if you um
one of the pictures that sort of shows

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the water pooling on it
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pretty much measure that that is roughly
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okay from the board any other thoughts

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so information on the paperwork that she
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most of the stuff was answered there
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very very good so then the conditions
upon which an application for variance

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is based are particularly
i'm sorry uh

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um considering whether there's a
practical difficulty we have to look at

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whether the conditions upon which an
application for variance is based or

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particularly the subject property with
respect to the physical size

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shape or other characteristics of the
premises or joining premises

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differentiating it from other premises
in the same district or the variance

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would result in an improvement of the
property that is more appropriate more

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beneficial to the community than would
be the case without granting

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of the variance
i see both those conditions being met

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uh so we'd look for a um
a motion

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uh
roll call uh deb

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mr defranco yes mrs jim blank yes mr
machelko yeah

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emotions approved um

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so um
let's see here are there any other so

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that motion's approved
uh are there any other uh considerations

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for the board

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if not uh
motion to close

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move to adjourn
adjourn

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stable
they have 10 days to appeal so we're not

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going to be able to issue a permit
in the next 10 days just because

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somebody wants to appeal
right thank you so there are 10 days to

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appeal so thank you
any other thoughts there

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good
uh so i think i heard motion to adjourn

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seconded all in favor
bye

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very good eye as well so everybody have
a great day thank you thank you everyone

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bye thanks everyone
great meeting