[0:00] All right, I'm going to call the meeting
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for a moment of silence to honor the men
[0:29] and women who keep us safe around the
world. And this meeting, I would like
[0:34] everybody to keep the Shiffron, the um
Depro, and the Schmidt families in your
[0:41] hearts because we had big losses in town
this week.
[0:47] Okay. Thank you.
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On roll call, Mayor Bolan is absent.
[1:39] Council members Bennon
>> here.
[1:41] » Herk
>> here.
[1:42] » Pavano
>> here. Smith is absent. Alman
[1:47] » here.
>> Flynn
[1:49] » here.
>> Burough attorney Scatino
[1:51] » here.
>> Bur administrator Fbre
[1:53] » here.
>> Burough clerk despotto here. We have a
[1:56] quorum.
>> Okay, first item on the agenda is the
[2:00] presentation and proclamations. The 100
anniversary of the fire police.
[2:04] » So I'd like to call the fire police up
to the day, please. And uh Claire, since
[2:09] you're the fire commissioner, would you
like to
[2:12] » Oh boy. join.
>> I want to get a good picture.
[2:19] [applause]
[2:29] [applause]
[2:36] » Doesn't sound on.
[snorts]
[2:49] I don't want I don't want to get yelled
at for not being on TV when I'm talking
[2:53] about you guys. So, I'm going to start
out by reading this certificate of
[2:57] recognition. for this. Uh, this
certificate is proudly presented to the
[3:04] Maywood Fire Police in honor and
celebration of 100 years of dedicated
[3:09] service. Since its founding, the Maywood
Fire Police has stood as a steadfast
[3:14] guardian of public safety, directing
traffic, securing scenes, and protecting
[3:18] both the community and its first
responders in their most critical
[3:22] moments.
On this milestone centennial
[3:26] anniversary, that's 100 years folks. We
pay tribute to the men and women past
[3:31] and present whose commitment, courage,
and selfless service have defined this
[3:35] organization for 100 years. May the
legacy of those who came before inspire
[3:41] all who follow. And this is given to you
all in honor or by the mayor and
[3:47] council. Where is Karen? You're over
here. Um, I would just like to say I
[3:51] think everyone in town knows this, but
there we [clears throat] have so many
[3:55] people who do different things, who
volunteer in different ways,
[3:59] and some people do this event, and some
people do this parade, and some people
[4:03] are firefighters and are out all the
time. These guys are at all of the
[4:09] things. We all do a little. Some of us
do a lot. They do it all. They're
[4:14] everywhere all the time. It's crazy. I
don't even understand how they sleep.
[4:19] But I'm always impressed that they're
willing to continue to do this because
[4:24] it's a lot. We ask a lot of you. Um, our
fun things and our hard things and
[4:29] everything. You're always there. So, you
know, on behalf of everybody, I just
[4:34] want to thank you for your just always
being there for us and always being
[4:38] there for me. I'm going to make myself
cry. I always get myself worked up when
[4:41] I say things like this.
>> I thought, [laughter]
[4:44] » well, we all this always happens, right?
So, I'd like to let Claire, do you have
[4:49] anything to say as the fire
commissioner?
[4:52] » Yeah, I'm crying already, so it's okay.
[laughter]
[4:55] » So, do you have anything to add as our
fearless leader?
[4:59] » There you go. [laughter]
>> On behalf of the mayor of fire, please,
[5:01] we want to thank the council of uh
Maywood uh for this recognition. We
[5:05] really appreciate it for 100th service
anniversary. So, thank you again so
[5:09] much. We appreciate it.
>> Here's to 100 more. [laughter]
[5:13] » Yeah. [applause]
[5:18] » [applause]
[5:23] » Can we squish and shoot?
>> Squish and shoot.
[5:32] » Yeah. I want to get a picture of the
fire.
[5:37] » Let's get us all in and then we'll get
us alone. My husband is rescuing me.
[5:44] » All right, Adrian, you need to organize
this.
[5:48] » [laughter]
>> left shoulder.
[5:53] » Let's uh
>> Yeah, you can't see the guys in the
[5:56] back.
>> You guys are right.
[6:07] » Hey Roy, where's Roy?
>> Right there. Perfect. Perfect. Let's
[6:15] see if we can do even if that makes
sense.
[6:30] » Yes.
[6:37] » Did you say I made that perfect?
>> I did. [laughter]
[6:41] said, "Take a perfect picture."
Cameron, just move your head to your
[6:45] right a little bit. [laughter]
>> That way, that way.
[6:52] » Boom. Thank you.
[applause]
[7:04] » Yep. Yep. Yep.
>> Face forward. No shoulders.
[7:17] Yeah. Scooch together a little.
[7:24] » Yep. Perfect.
>> Come smiling.
[7:30] » Everybody [laughter]
say
[7:37] » that looks awesome. It does.
>> Sorry.
[7:43] » Thank you. Thank you. [applause]
[7:48] » Thank you.
>> So nice.
[7:57] » This is going to be a quick meeting. I
have to be this hot.
[7:59] » Okay.
>> Nothing wrong with that.
[8:00] » Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Appreciate you.
[8:04] » I can feel it.
[8:12] Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. Are you kidding?
[8:14] » Thank you.
>> Thank you. You too.
[8:19] » My husband went to the coronet and
grabbed me another pair.
[8:21] » That was very nice.
>> What did he What did he go?
[8:24] » Very nice.
>> Yes, it was very nice. I'm glad you said
[8:26] something because I'm like I was going
to say I was going to say something
[8:29] about all the stuff they do. So, I'm
glad you said
[8:31] » because every time I start saying those
things, I like make my own self cry.
[8:34] » I was very very
>> Yeah. Well, you held it in. You were
[8:36] good. You were good. You kept it
together. [laughter]
[8:40] » Like I'm really It's like I'm really
good at getting myself worked up.
[8:45] » That's why I can't read cards in the
hallmark.
[8:51] » So, council president, next item on the
agenda is public hearing on pending
[8:54] ordinances. We have ordinance 7-26, an
ordinance to amend chapter 52, the
[8:59] burough code of the burough Maywood
entitled personal policy.
[9:03] Council President, we need to open the
floor.
[9:05] » So, I'll open the floor to public
comment on ordinance 726.
[9:11] Do you have any comments, John?
[laughter]
[9:17] » Um, does anyone Oh, well, I should close
then. Um, seeing none, we'll close the
[9:24] uh public portion. Does anyone in the
council have any comments or questions
[9:28] about this? This is the second reading,
so we're going to pass it tonight. I
[9:32] will say, Adrian, I did notice the part
about training for AI policy. And I do
[9:38] want to make sure that we put a pin in
that and that actually happens because
[9:42] AI is confusing to people and employees.
And you know, we had a little issue with
[9:46] using a graphic once that we didn't have
the permission for. So, I think making
[9:50] sure that the staff really understand
what the intention is here is super
[9:55] important.
>> I'll talk to Frank and see if we can get
[9:58] uh some of the MSI training, some
videos. Yeah,
[10:00] » they usually provide that if there is
something available.
[10:03] » Yeah,
>> we'll get it.
[10:04] » And just like let them know like we're
serious. Like they should read this and
[10:07] acknowledge that they've read the policy
change because this is a brand new We're
[10:10] in a strange new world here with AI. Um
all right. So, uh I think it's time to
[10:17] take the role. We need a first and a
second. Oh, I'm sorry. Can I have a
[10:22] motion?
>> I'll make the motion.
[10:24] » I'll second.
>> On roll call. Bennon,
[10:28] » yes.
>> Herrick,
[10:29] » yes. Padavano,
>> yes.
[10:30] » Olman,
>> yes.
[10:32] » Flynn,
>> yes. Motion carries. Be it resolved by
[10:35] the governing body of the Burl Maywood
that ordinance 7-26B and is hereby
[10:39] passed upon second and final reading and
that the burough clerk is hereby
[10:42] authorized and directed to advertise the
same according to law. Next item on the
[10:47] agenda is the approval of minutes. We
have the May 12th, 2026 work session and
[10:51] close session minutes and the May 26,
2026 council meeting minutes.
[10:56] » Okay. Can I have a motion?
I'll make the motion.
[11:01] » Second that. Anybody want to second it?
>> I'll second.
[11:06] » Can we have the vote on roll call?
Bennon,
[11:09] » yes.
>> Herrick,
[11:11] » yes.
>> Favano,
[11:12] » yes.
>> Almond,
[11:13] » yes.
>> Flynn,
[11:15] » yes.
>> Motion carries. Next thing on the agenda
[11:18] is our engineering report for June.
[11:25] » Thank you, honorable council members.
So, we should an engineers report uh
[11:29] dated uh the 16th for tonight's meeting.
I'll briefly go through the topics. I'll
[11:33] tie the first two together, which is
Memorial Park improvements and the
[11:37] lighting, sports lighting improvements.
Projects been completed for a while.
[11:40] We're just uh punch listing uh and
requesting documentation from uh the
[11:46] contractor. They'll move forward with
close out and then uh be providing uh
[11:50] documents uh to open space so that the
bureau can receive its outstanding grant
[11:54] funding for that project.
uh the permeable paver projects, there's
[11:59] been no action with respect to it. Uh
we're awaiting uh sports seasons and
[12:03] events to end. [snorts] Uh once that
occurs in late fall, that project will
[12:09] move forward in the winter. The under
drains will be constructed and then
[12:12] you'll be able to use the fields uh in
the spring of that year of next year,
[12:16] 2027.
uh Taplan and Laughlin. Uh we received
[12:21] uh documents from uh the burrow today
which will allow us to make submissions
[12:25] both to uh community development and DOT
by the end of the week. Then you'll be
[12:29] in the queue to receive the outstanding
grant funds for both of those projects
[12:33] too. Uh next item on the list is uh
Dodto. Uh we had a bid opening uh that
[12:40] occurred on uh June 17th. We issued a
recommendation package uh just this week
[12:46] on yesterday the 22nd. Once uh funding's
available for that project uh the award
[12:52] would occur and we would anticipate that
uh piping would be installed August
[12:56] September. You'd let it settle out for
two to three months and pave right
[13:00] around October, November. Uh Memorial
Park, the Spring Valley uh entrance side
[13:05] improvements project. Uh we've been
working uh with the governing body with
[13:10] our office of repair conceptual plan for
that. Improvements include three
[13:16] separate items. Uh the base bid is going
to be the retaining wall grading
[13:21] improvements near the Spring Valley Road
parking lot. Uh what that'll do is
[13:25] eliminate the current condition where
you see the slope eroding over and you
[13:29] actually can see some of the the granite
that's located there. Uh that wall will
[13:34] allow us to fill over that. You'll have
uh top soil there and be able to plant
[13:38] there and uh hold that slope and soil in
the alternate bid of that project will
[13:44] include an irrigation system. The
irrigation system will ensure that that
[13:48] those plantings are maintained and then
the alternate bid B which would be if
[13:53] there's sufficient funding would be to
take the pathway where which now ends
[13:59] and begins in the middle of the drive
aisle where residents would walk through
[14:03] the parking lot. We're now locating that
along the right of way of Spring Valley
[14:08] uh along the frontage. That would
require you to eliminate some of the
[14:11] smaller saplings that have been planted
there. We will set the bid up so uh we
[14:17] attempt as best as possible to remove
those plantings and move them to other
[14:22] locations within the park so that those
plantings uh aren't wasted. Uh what we
[14:27] have done if if you've seen the plan is
developed an ADA ramp that will come
[14:33] toward I guess the east toward the
basketball courts. You'll work your way
[14:37] up at 5%. You'll then bend your way off
to the
[14:42] » right
>> north that is toward the dog park. We'll
[14:45] have a separate walkway into where the
dog park is, which is ADA accessible,
[14:50] and eliminate that stone area, which has
kind of been thrown down and is not not
[14:56] clean and needs to be tidied, so you
have a clean entrance to the uh dog
[15:00] park. Then you'll loop around with that
5% slope and be able to get uh to the
[15:05] basketball courts. If you don't need to
use the ramp and and and don't need the
[15:09] ADA accessible ramp, there's going to be
a stairway that will take you up
[15:13] directly to the basketball courts if you
want to uh eliminate going to the uh dog
[15:18] park. So, there will be in between
there, which I think will be uh
[15:23] something that'll create intra aesthetic
interest to the park. There there'll be
[15:27] a small retaining wall that will loop uh
in between uh the 88 ramp where you
[15:32] slope 5% to loop around toward the
basketball court. It'll be a planter box
[15:36] that you could put trees, decorative
plantings in and and create an aesthetic
[15:42] uh as you're either choosing to enter
the dog park or choosing to enter the
[15:47] main [clears throat] park. Um I I know
we potentially may have a meeting uh
[15:52] this week. All are invited to uh visit
and we'll walk through and I can present
[15:58] and show based upon the plan where these
separate improvements are going to be
[16:01] located so you can visualize it uh in
the field.
[16:06] Next item on the list is the call for
DOT municipal aid grant projects. Uh
[16:11] yesterday we submitted a grant
application for uh Ham Place. Uh we
[16:16] would anticipate that around
Thanksgiving time, end of the year is
[16:20] when the state would be awarding grants
and you would construct that either
[16:23] spring or summer of next year based upon
uh funding availability. Uh and then the
[16:28] final two items that are listed in the
report relate to the municipal storm
[16:32] water management program. Uh, one was
the stormwater pollution prevention plan
[16:37] and storm water management plan and also
the storm water control ordinance. We've
[16:40] submitted those documents to Bergen
County. They're under review. Once
[16:44] they're completed, uh, the burl would
upload those to their storm water
[16:47] section of their website. The other is
the uh, larger watershed assessment
[16:52] report. We're preparing that report.
We'll be issuing a draft by the end of
[16:56] July. Uh, that report's due uh, at the
end of uh, this year. And then a final
[17:01] item that's that's off the report, but
we had discussed at last month's meeting
[17:05] was the Central Avenue paving that the
county is going to undertake. Uh we we
[17:09] received correspondence that they
they're not going to be paving that
[17:12] roadway into uh until 2027 based upon
their funding and review.
[17:18] Some good aspects of the project though
and information that we've acquired. One
[17:22] is that uh the county is going to be
implementing a bike path from Hacksac
[17:28] through uh the burrow of Maywood as as
part of this project. Now when we asked
[17:33] for the shoulder striping that was
requested, the burl has the option and
[17:37] they asked us to pull the governing body
uh would you want uh shoulder striping
[17:42] or would you want them to continue the
the bike path uh through the burrow? So
[17:46] that's something that you would need to
consider. you don't need to take action
[17:50] tonight because it's not going to occur
till next year, but they they'd like an
[17:55] answer from the governing body as it
relates to that. And then the final
[17:58] item, I know the mayor had asked as it
relates to traveling um eastbound on uh
[18:04] Central Avenue toward Hackinack about
lengthening that left turn lane because
[18:09] you have some queuing that actually ends
up in the straight lane heading east.
[18:14] and they said they will definitely uh
implement that, include that in the
[18:17] revised construction documents when it
goes out to bid. So, you'll see that
[18:20] lengthening occurring, hopefully less
queuing that impacts uh people traveling
[18:25] eastbound on Central Avenue. That
concludes our report. Be glad to address
[18:29] any questions or comments the governing
body had though.
[18:31] » Can is I guess maybe they won't have
this yet, but with that bike path, the
[18:37] shoulder striping question, um it' be
good to see a plan. I I would imagine
[18:42] people might be
I mean Ryan I know is already like bike
[18:47] path, right?
>> I just I have a question about So
[18:49] Hackinack is installing the bike path,
correct? So, well, the county is going
[18:54] to paint paint it on the uh c since
they're paving all of central avenue
[18:58] from Hackinack through
>> my assumption is that Hackinack is
[19:01] paying for no
>> it on their So, so that's my next
[19:04] question is the county if we're talking
is going to continue if we so choose the
[19:09] bike path will continue paving or
painting the bike path at their cost not
[19:15] to the cost of
>> No, it's all this is all this is
[19:18] project.
>> Yeah, just it's just choice on what to
[19:20] That's going to be very
>> I'd love to know is it just paint or are
[19:24] they planning on putting any kind of
>> Ballards? I mean Central gets quite
[19:29] narrow between
Maywood
[19:33] and uh Rochelle.
>> It is. It is.
[19:36] » So
>> So I I know that I I I doubt they will
[19:39] put Ballards in because the the
>> those little orange thingy bobers
[19:44] » issues with uh vehicles traveling by
larger vehicles. I'd be glad to ask the
[19:49] county to supply a striking plan for
what they intend to do within the
[19:52] roadway. And I I I could distribute that
uh through the administrator of the
[19:56] governing body to take a look at it.
>> Those skinny I'm sorry. Those skinny
[20:00] little orange things that aren't quite
cones. I don't know what one would.
[20:04] They're not bothered. It's probably not
the right word.
[20:06] » Delineators they're called.
>> Oh, okay. Traffic delineators.
[20:09] » You did not know that.
>> Exactly what I would have called them.
[20:12] » Traffic delineator. They were located I
know at uh Maywood A and Spring Valley
[20:17] and they get clipped a lot.
>> They absolutely get clipped but it's
[20:20] better that they get clipped than the
people on the bikes is. So yeah know
[20:24] into every life a traffic deliminator
must fall occasionally.
[20:27] » What is the difference between the
shoulder and a bike path? Aren't they
[20:32] are they similar in size? Is it just
that they put arrows for the bike path?
[20:37] » They paint it. So I I would envision it
and I don't want to speak out of term
[20:42] because I haven't seen the plan myself.
I was just asked the question. The the
[20:45] white stripe would be your typical
shoulder that you you see that that that
[20:49] you did on Spring Valley.
>> Spring Valley, right?
[20:51] » Um your bike path would have the double
white with the paint the painted color
[20:56] in the middle with the symbol of the
bike bike traveling bike
[21:00] » of which no one would be able to park on
said bike path on central on that side.
[21:06] Correct. Well, it depends on where they
put it. There's there's only parking on
[21:10] what
on the part between Maywood and Rochelle
[21:14] A. There's only parking on one side of
the street anyway. So, if the bike path
[21:17] was put on that side,
>> hopefully it would be on the other side,
[21:19] but it's so narrow. I mean, I've ridden
my bike on that street. And it's
[21:23] » we'll probably be better off with I
mean, just for traffic in general to not
[21:28] have cars parked on that road.
>> Yeah. Because when you have multiple
[21:32] cars going at the same time, sometimes
you go around.
[21:35] » You can't just decide that people can't
park on
[21:38] » Well, no. County road. That's a county
decision.
[21:40] » It's a county decision to some extent,
right? And if that then I mean, if the
[21:45] bike path is up, then you can't park in
a bike path that not on that side of the
[21:49] street, but on the other side, you'd be
able
[21:51] » to park.
>> I just wonder what they're I guess we
[21:54] have to see what they're
>> Yeah. I'm sorry, Claire. I didn't mean
[21:57] to speak over you.
>> I'm talking to Adrian who's making a bad
[21:59] face.
>> Okay. Stop making faces.
[22:01] » I'm I'm making I'm I'm in my bicycle.
>> If you're going to make faces, do it on
[22:04] your microphone so it gets on the TV.
[laughter]
[22:07] » Um we uh so obviously we need some more
information because the idea of a bike
[22:12] path is a great idea. I mean, we
remember we we Ryan and Doug had uh sort
[22:18] of champion the idea of putting the bike
path along the rail line.
[22:24] You know, if that's still an option,
perhaps this bike path they're talking
[22:28] about could be diverted. on to that
through Maywood. Um, and then we would
[22:33] avoid people. Why are you looking at me
in that tone of voice? [laughter] So,
[22:39] » my tone of voice
>> that could that could um I it's just a
[22:42] thought, you know, like to explore.
[laughter]
[22:47] » So, can we see a plan, please?
>> Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it.
[22:51] » The uh county traffic engineer announc
the more we think about. Does anyone
[22:56] else have any questions for our
engineer? Um just one thing I I had
[23:00] brought up to Mr. Peniac before which is
and that we discussed we did get the
[23:07] information back from the county saying
that they are of course okay with us
[23:11] putting up crosswalk signs. Um I've
reached out to our CFO to just check on
[23:16] the funding and I've also asked Mr. PLA
if he could look into some possible
[23:20] grant opportunities for that to see how
much we would have funding for um if
[23:25] we'd have funding to do all six um
across May would have the crosswalk
[23:29] signs already in place from an old bond
bond ordinances um andor get some grant
[23:36] money andor if we
>> my understanding was we have the money
[23:40] set aside so yes we can get grant money
for other crosswalks.
[23:45] » True. You're going to be waiting a year
or two then if you
[23:47] » Oh, no. No. These I
>> Gav's on the roof.
[23:50] » Great. Did I not just say those girls?
>> Is there such a thing as a grant you get
[23:54] immediately? If there is, we would love
to have it.
[23:56] » That is the one thing is is is if you
are looking for grant money, it will
[23:59] take some.
>> It's going to delay.
[24:00] » Okay. Well, I'll let you know what Sher
>> It would turn into it would turn into a
[24:04] next year project.
>> Yeah, we we've been promising these for
[24:07] a long time. We've been told we have the
funding for a long time. It would be
[24:09] really exciting to get crackacking on
this situation. So I would uh like
[24:14] » So basically the next step is once I
just hear from Sher with everything that
[24:17] everything is a-okay and then uh we just
need to official have an official
[24:23] » bid the project
>> say for you to start putting together
[24:26] the package. And just so everyone
remembers, you did say it's roughly
[24:30] $50,000 a crosswalk, and that is doing
the work soup to nuts, but that does
[24:36] also include striping across the street,
of which we would not have to do because
[24:40] the striping already exists on Maywood
Avenue that the county did do. So,
[24:46] » although we I mean, you never know. It
might need a little touch-up.
[24:48] » It might need a little touch-up. I mean,
that might be part of what we have to
[24:51] look at, but that would be the
>> and and that's not the expensive part of
[24:57] the No, the sign, right?
>> I think we need some traffic delineators
[25:01] in the middle of the crosswalk as well.
Just going to say
[25:04] » put that in the
>> Do you have another
[25:06] » Greg? I have a question. Sure. Um
>> the patchwork on Maywood Avenue, now
[25:12] that she brings it up, especially by
Burrow Hall, is is horrible. Um is the
[25:17] county coming back? Are they sending
their contractors back to address that
[25:21] or is that is that the way it's going to
stay?
[25:23] » Yeah, I I I I could reach out.
>> I I've actually been meaning to reach
[25:26] out to you about this, but but Katherine
just brought up uh what she brought up
[25:29] and just popped into my head right now.
>> Which patchwork are you talking about?
[25:33] » I'm sorry.
>> Which patchwork are you talking about?
[25:36] » The one on the corner of Park and Well,
actually all over, but on Park and uh
[25:40] Maywood A is pretty bad right out front
here. Um and and it was done without any
[25:46] I I believe it was done without even
talking to the the planning I mean I'm
[25:49] sorry the building department until
after like they you know like they
[25:52] generally
>> under the cover of night.
[25:54] » Yeah. I mean it's always emergency work
>> and and it was the county or was it a
[25:58] utility? It was
>> I want to say it was PSEG but I I
[26:03] believe it was PSEG. I think
>> Was it the gas leak?
[26:06] » You talking about the GL the gas leak
right out here?
[26:09] » If that's what they were calling it. I'm
not exactly [laughter] sure what the
[26:11] reason was.
>> That's what they were calling it. Yeah.
[26:12] I mean, listen, they have
>> purportedly
[26:15] » they've never met an emergency they
didn't have a name for. I mean, you
[26:19] know, they just it gives if by calling
it an emergency, they can just do as
[26:23] they please.
>> You know, you made me think of something
[26:25] else.
>> Oh, no.
[26:26] » I'm sorry.
>> Sorry. Sorry.
[26:28] » Um there I know I said to you and to
Gary, there's a little there's a bit of
[26:34] a sinkhole developing on Orchard Place
in front of like fairly close to the
[26:38] end. There's an old patch probably from
152 years ago. So, Gary said he called
[26:43] in a uh a mark out cuz he wanted to see
which
[26:48] utility might be in the vicinity. Um I
don't know, maybe we don't have a record
[26:52] of who it was, but if you it's in front
of nine orchard place and since you're
[26:58] going to be at the aphasia center, you
could go just take a little detour. Uh,
[27:03] so right in the corner of the patch
there's a hole and it and when you look
[27:07] in it, the a literary agent editor
thought it seemed deep and dangerous. So
[27:13] [laughter]
I don't know if I mean it looks pretty
[27:16] deep to me and I I don't know. I'm
worrying that the whole that whole big
[27:20] block we've been talking about that's
already falling apart is like now being
[27:24] undermined.
>> Um, so
[27:27] » a
>> lot of road discussion today.
[27:29] » Yeah, good stuff. Good stuff. Uh, Greg,
if I may, just to
[27:33] » pile on your report, which generated a
tremendous amount of discussion tonight
[27:37] to circle back briefly
on to the bike uh lane, there's, I'd
[27:44] say, a better chance than not, I will
not be on the council when this finally
[27:49] comes to a vote. So I would like my
colleagues and for it to be on record
[27:55] thinking uh or saying rather that
in my opinion there's no question it
[28:00] should be a bike lane. I've said on this
day it's for almost nine years now and
[28:05] I'm sure if you looked at the 90 years
before that the county has never offered
[28:09] to put a bike lane in any municipality
uh at no cost to the burrow. People are
[28:15] still going to drive their bikes to
Saddlebrook Park. Kids are going to
[28:19] continue to drive their bikes to Saddle
Brook Park because you could see them
[28:22] every evening playing basketball and
pickle ball and tennis there. So, if we
[28:27] could uh do something to make that drive
a little safer, I think we would be
[28:32] silly not to.
>> Duly noted, sir.
[28:36] » Yeah.
>> Thank you.
[28:37] » It would help me make my bike trips
longer, which I would appreciate because
[28:42] I would feel safer. It's not safe on
Central on a bike. I'm just going to
[28:46] tell you. Um, all right. Is there
anything else or have we exhausted the
[28:50] engineers report and can we let Greg
scadaddle?
[28:55] » You got anything else, Greg?
>> I kind of did it already.
[28:58] » Don't unless anybody has any questions?
>> You
[29:01] » sure you don't want to circle back to
the bike lane? [laughter]
[29:05] » We do have under new business this
concept plan and the grading for
[29:08] Memorial Park, which you did already
review. Does any even though that's
[29:13] later on the agenda, does anyone else
have any additional questions
[29:16] specifically about that?
>> Just you said there's going to be a
[29:19] meeting you're going to show where the
>> So I I think uh
[29:24] the burough administrator and I have a
meeting 2:30
[29:28] uh for a matter at the uh Peerless
Firehouse on Thursday. After that
[29:33] meeting uh we're going to have a meeting
at uh the Spring Valley side of Memorial
[29:38] Park just to walk through uh that plan.
So we can you can everybody can
[29:42] visualize it in the field and then we
can discuss potential revisions if you'd
[29:46] like to revise the plan.
>> So you guesstimate like 3:30ish
[29:50] » 330 we should be
>> I'm going to the theater. It can't be a
[29:53] lot later than that.
>> Definitely would
[29:55] » around 3:30 on Thursday.
>> Around 3:30.
[29:57] » Yeah. Because I I'm looking at the the
plan you gave, but kind of want to see
[30:02] it in real life.
>> We we'll show you in real life and we'll
[30:05] also have a larger scale plan so that
you Yeah. Yeah. That's tiny. All right.
[30:08] Well, and if as many of us can get there
as possible, then and if anybody else
[30:12] has questions, I'm going to try to get
there. If you have questions and you
[30:15] can't get there, feel free to
>> ask.
[30:18] » John, is this something since there's
going to be no discussion about is this
[30:22] something that we have to worry about a
quorum or can we just everybody just
[30:25] show up and look around. It's a park.
We're there.
[30:28] » No replying all.
>> Well, right. If there's no going to be
[30:31] no discussion and no action taken, you
could all go on a site visit.
[30:35] » Okay. Just want to make sure. Thank you.
Thank you.
[30:38] » We could speak amongst ourselves. Just
not discuss it.
[30:41] » Just just no replying all.
>> Just no discussing the pro [laughter]
[30:44] the project.
>> Yeah.
[30:45] » You're going to if you're going to
discuss the project, then
[30:48] » it's listen only.
>> It's listen only.
[30:50] » Listen, take note. Well, it's just an
understanding what's going on. We can
[30:54] have the discussions after. All right.
So, can we let Mr. Piniac go?
[31:00] » Unless the member of the public has any
questions for him, I would say yes.
[31:04] » The member.
>> All right. I think we can dispense with
[31:08] you, Mr. Pony. And you may go home to
your lovely family.
[31:11] » Thank you so much.
>> All right. Have a wonderful night and
[31:14] we'll see you Thursday.
>> Bye, Greg.
[31:16] » Have a good night.
>> All right. So, on to bills and claims.
[31:21] Uh,
so do I just call for a motion or do you
[31:25] have to say anything first?
>> Okay. Can I have a motion? Hope
[31:29] everyone's had a chance to take a look.
>> Make a motion to pay the bills.
[31:34] » Would anyone else like to pay the bills?
I'll second.
[31:37] » There you go. And roll call.
>> On roll call. Bennon.
[31:41] » Yes.
>> Herrick,
[31:42] » yes.
>> Pedavano.
[31:44] » Uh, yes to all recuse from the hour
town.
[31:52] » Uh,
>> man.
[31:53] » Yes.
>> Flynn.
[31:54] » Yes. Motion carries.
>> Okay. The next thing is we are going to
[31:58] open the meeting to the public. Uh, does
anyone from the public have anything
[32:03] they would say? Oh, surprise surprise.
Would you like to come? You have to come
[32:08] to the microphone and speak in clearly.
>> Want to sit down?
[32:12] » Name and address, please.
>> Do you have a What? Are you giving us
[32:16] your report? He
>> has notes.
[32:19] » No, it's something else.
>> It's just one page though.
[32:23] » So, you're shocked.
>> Let's go. Mr. Brown.
[32:27] » John Brown. Still at 417.
>> John, [laughter] is that on? See if it's
[32:31] on. The green light. It wasn't on
before.
[32:33] » Hold the green light. I mean, hold the
button until the green light.
[32:36] » Can you hear it?
>> Oh, John can hear you.
[32:38] » Green light's on. Test.
>> Oh, that's better.
[32:41] » Ah, okay. I'm still John Brown at 41
Sterling Avenue. Um, two weeks ago I
[32:48] stood at the same spot after the
presentation of of the budget
[32:54] [clears throat] and at that time
I had concerns
[33:00] with the stated surplus
uh that remained and I stated that it
[33:07] was $1.2 million if you recall. If you
don't, you can watch it on the video.
[33:14] It's at 34 minutes and 10 seconds. So,
I'll give you the reference
[33:17] » into our minds. Continue.
>> At that point, Mr. Wilcox said there is
[33:23] not 1.2 million left. There is really
2.2 million left because of that
[33:29] interfund issue.
>> Yeah.
[33:32] » And he stated that at 3450.
Um, again, you can verify that
[33:39] we had two weeks in between and there's
been discussions
[33:43] and I I gotta commend Adrian for acting
as the referee, punching bag and
[33:49] sparring partner at times. Uh, but
during those discussions, I decided to
[33:56] ask Mr. Wilcox in a different form and I
I propo I posed two questions to him.
[34:04] one was that if he were to fill in or he
were to remake the slide which was the
[34:11] last slide in your package okay and it's
entitled budget highlights there are two
[34:18] figures that are on that slide the first
one I don't have any uh qums with
[34:22] » now you might need to what is the figure
just without getting into details say
[34:27] quickly what
>> the first figure was the the amount
[34:29] that's used as surplus into revenue
>> okay
[34:32] » okay The second figure is the surplus
remaining as of the end of the year.
[34:39] That's what I was stating the 1.2.
Um so what I asked Mr. Wilcox through
[34:46] through aging um if you were to redo
that slide, if you had to redo that
[34:52] slide, what would be the second figure
in that? And I yet I did that because on
[34:58] that slide that was presented, there was
only one figure. In other words, the
[35:03] remainder was not on the slide. Whereas
in the past four maybe five years, that
[35:09] figure had always been shown going back
to Chuck Cuchia when he was the CFO
[35:15] through um uh Sherry through Steve even.
I think he probably presented it maybe
[35:22] once. Um that was always part of the
presentation. That is what I was
[35:27] referring to.
Okay. So
[35:32] when I received the answer, which was
today, Steve responded in an email
[35:39] saying that he would have put $1.2
million as what was remaining as of the
[35:45] end of 2025.
The same number that I said to you.
[35:50] Okay? So it wasn't wrong. It was
correct. I know what Steve is saying.
[35:57] The interfund transfer would bring 900.
>> Well, it will it will bring it in the
[36:03] future. It's not here.
>> It was forwardlooking. Yeah.
[36:06] » Okay. Accountants normally don't talk in
terms of you know I hope I wish I pray
[36:12] you know it may be you know it's it's
documented in
[36:16] » Isn't that why he wrote the 1.2 because
the 900's already gone and it's got to
[36:20] come back in the future.
>> Yes.
[36:22] » And I and I expect that. Okay. I in fact
I hope it happens and I I I don't have
[36:29] any reason to do believe it.
>> He has to do worse happen yet.
[36:33] » Correct.
>> And in fact as I stand here right now
[36:36] » all of you you have $1.2 million.
>> Correct.
[36:39] » You don't have the amount until that's
transferred back until Sher does the
[36:45] transfer and and I don't think any of us
know if that was even done yet.
[36:49] » No, it won't be. I think it'll be more
like the fall, right?
[36:52] » Yeah, that's that's what I thought. can
only be done in November, December, and
[36:56] January.
>> It'll be the end of the year
[36:58] » in February.
>> So, you can keep asking us about that.
[37:00] » So, you don't have a penny more than
what I told you.
[37:03] » Okay? And and once that transfer, I
understand it. The transfer is going to
[37:07] happen. Okay? At the end of the year,
you'll you'll know exactly depending
[37:12] upon what you spend in the rest of the
year,
[37:14] » right?
>> Going forward. Okay? So I I just want to
[37:18] clarify that and to make everybody
understand and you know it brings to a
[37:24] point something I've been harping on for
several years that presentation should
[37:30] be done when the budget is introduced.
We wouldn't have to go through all of
[37:36] this.
>> It's it's almost like telling me what's
[37:39] in the soup as I'm eating it.
I know what you're saying and I know we
[37:43] discussed this and we had all agreed oh
yeah let's have it early but then we
[37:47] were told that we were not allowed to do
that by am I wrong about or
[37:51] misremembering that
>> you can't have the public hearing
[37:54] » you can't have public hearing for the 28
days that was why
[37:58] » but you can have a discussion on the
budget you can do the presentations
[38:02] there is plenty of of town
>> it's different than public hearing
[38:06] » so we could do the presentation
>> but you can't entertain questions or
[38:10] statements So we so so would you be able
to control yourself
[38:15] » if we had a presentation
>> control myself and not and you were not
[38:19] allowed to speak you would not be
allowed to say anything but I mean I
[38:24] think we can take this under advisement.
One other thing that I will say happened
[38:29] this year because of the delay with the
state getting us their information uh
[38:33] through and also all this crazy business
that happened with the insurance and
[38:38] other things. The budget went later than
we would have liked. We
[38:42] » Everybody got a delay.
>> I know. So, so we could have probably
[38:46] had some additional meetings, but then
that would have just put off passing it
[38:50] which was kind of that creates a certain
number of problems because you're on the
[38:54] temporary budget. So, we were
>> there was two meetings in between which
[38:59] allowed
>> but it wasn't the 28 days that's the
[39:01] problem. So, we were aware of what you
said and then we got told that what we
[39:06] had thought we could do we couldn't do.
But we will take this under advisement
[39:09] and we will try to see if next year will
be a more normal year.
[39:13] » All that's all I can ask.
>> And you when you have questions, you
[39:15] need to ask them because we're here.
Don't wait till the last minute.
[39:19] » Except for on that day if there's a
presentation and no one's allowed to
[39:22] speak.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, then don't. Yes. Ex.
[39:25] I take it all back. I retract what I
said. And and I just want to address
[39:29] Claire's comment about what I said to
her. I don't even remember saying that,
[39:34] but both you and Adrian said I did.
>> And I believe you. I believe.
[39:38] » Absolutely. I I almost flew over and I
believe I even said, "I'm going to
[39:42] remind you of that at the next meeting."
>> And I thought about it. I thought, "Why
[39:45] would I say that?" BECAUSE IT WAS TRUE.
>> MY DIARY,
[39:49] » I actually thought about what and and
for for those of you who weren't here,
[39:53] uh Claire said I said it was a good
budget. And looking back
[40:00] based upon the information I had, I
probably thought that for one thing, I
[40:05] didn't find any blatant errors. I didn't
find any, you know, holes that could
[40:10] have been used to fill gaps. Uh,
other than the um previous suggestions I
[40:17] had in which I was declared the uh what
was it?
[40:22] » I don't know. But I've never seen
>> Oh, the Grinch.
[40:24] » The Grinch. The Grinch of Maywood. So,
>> I don't know. But I've never seen
[40:26] anybody backpedal in the same and not
move. [laughter]
[40:29] » You haven't moved a spot, but you've
been backpedaling this whole time. I've
[40:32] never seen
>> I will remind you that you suggested
[40:34] cancelling Christmas.
>> All right. The [laughter] the other
[40:36] point was I I I
didn't see anything in the budget that
[40:40] that cleared to being bad. Um and I was
looking at the border towns. The
[40:46] information I had at that time, the ones
I was concentrating on were the ones
[40:50] that literally border our town. And
there were Hackin Sacks which had a
[40:54] 10.7% increase. Elwood Park which had
16.7%
[40:59] increase.
>> Third year with 7%.
[41:02] » She lives there. She knows they're
double digits.
[41:04] » They're the worst county through through
the pain. Um you know all the other
[41:08] towns were higher and that's why I made
that statement when I had the full
[41:12] information.
>> You know I I have a question.
[41:16] » Yes.
>> If you sir you want to go down this
[41:18] road. If the CFO came in in two weeks,
>> right,
[41:22] » and did the transfer and now there's 2.2
million in surplus,
[41:26] » right?
>> Does the does the C whatever you gave
[41:29] does it go to a B+?
>> Yeah, it might. Okay, just question.
[41:33] » And can we serve Crow?
>> BUT BUT [laughter] YOU KNOW
[41:37] » YOU KNOW what you can't
>> How many black birds were baked?
[41:41] » You can't spell CLA without a C in it.
[laughter]
[41:45] » OH,
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. That that was a bit
[41:49] much. Okay, let's uh thank you, Mr.
Brown. Um on that note, I will close the
[41:57] public portion and move on to
correspondence uh and report of the
[42:01] burough clerk.
>> Thank you, Council President. Um I do
[42:05] not have any correspondence for
tonight's meeting. Um my report was
[42:10] going to be progress, but then Greg
had a bell go off in my head. Um
[42:15] » I hope it didn't hurt. No. Um, did the
Shade Tree Commission um, look at that
[42:22] ordinance?
>> Not yet. We haven't had a meeting. I
[42:25] know. I know. I know.
>> We have to get that done.
[42:27] » Because I think we tried to do this a
couple years ago and it kind of got like
[42:31] lost in the mist.
>> It didn't get lost.
[42:34] » Just we
>> when they first came out with the model
[42:38] ordinance and they kind of said they
wanted everyone to do it. It wasn't
[42:41] really clear that you had to do it.
>> Yeah. We have to do it and we have to
[42:45] get it. Shade Tree Commission,
you know, they're kind of being put in a
[42:50] position where guys, just so you know
what this is, they want us to update the
[42:53] shade shade tree ordinance. And you
know, our shade tree commission involves
[43:00] our burrow trees, which is that first 10
feet from the curb and the residences
[43:05] and the public grounds, you know, the
parks and things like that. They they
[43:09] want us now to pass an ordinance where
we're going to start
[43:15] regulating, for lack of a better word,
bigger trees on people's private
[43:20] property. So that if you're going to
take down a big tree, you have to
[43:24] replace it by a certain number of trees.
And if not, you have to put money into a
[43:29] shade tree bank. And the problem with
this, in their opinion, and I think they
[43:33] have a point, is who's going to enforce
this? because it isn't going to be these
[43:40] resident commissioners who were on the
shade tree and so and and they really
[43:46] were concerned I mean look preserving
large trees is important but they also
[43:53] don't want to engender any animosity
towards the shade tree in you know by
[43:59] telling homeowners that they can't take
down trees in their backyard. So they
[44:03] they
were supportive of the concept, but they
[44:06] were concerned about the specifics they
were being asked to do. So now we're
[44:10] being told we have to pass this or we're
not going to be in compliance with the
[44:14] D. And I don't really know what the
repercussions of not being in compliance
[44:18] with the D is, but I assume it's not
good and not something we're going to
[44:22] do. So uh the shade tree is going to
look at it. I I'll you know what? I
[44:25] should also share a copy of it with all
of you so you can take a look at it. Um
[44:31] it's just a big it's an ordinance. It's
a sample ordinance with red highlights
[44:35] where you can change things. So
>> set fees and stuff like that
[44:39] » set fees and things like that. And so
one option is to say you can't do this
[44:43] but the fee if you do it is zero. Um but
then that might encourage people. So we
[44:48] have to think about it. Um
it's a little it's just a little
[44:53] balancing a few things. So anyway, we
have to deal with that.
[44:57] » Anything else?
>> Progress.
[44:59] » Okay. Thank you. And administrators
report from the administrator.
[45:04] » Thank you, madame council president. Um
[clears throat]
[45:07] the uh just want to mention something.
The the tournament they had the uh the
[45:12] MA had their tournament.
>> Yes.
[45:14] » Uh teams from all over the county came
and the
[45:20] it was rave reviews for our field. I'm
told it's being called the complex.
[45:25] » Nice.
>> They call it the complex in quotes. So,
[45:28] with a capital T and a capital C. So,
they they said the fields were
[45:32] beautiful. Um, obviously, whatever the
conditions are in terms of uh there's a
[45:37] little little bit of weeds in some
places. We're working on that right now,
[45:41] but other than that, they just loved it.
The lights um baseball on at night uh
[45:46] over there is just something special to
see.
[45:48] » Lights are amazing.
>> Yeah,
[45:50] » they really are.
>> Um, Field of Dreams. There you go. We
[45:55] [laughter]
we we've I have an update on one of the
[45:59] situation on Jagger. Um some people I'm
sure we all know about. It's been on
[46:04] Facebook. There's a um
>> I don't get into detail, but there's
[46:09] there's um
>> a house with serious property
[46:12] maintenance issues.
>> Yes.
[46:13] » That are very concerning to the
neighbors who are very upset.
[46:15] » Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> Rightly so.
[46:17] » Um they have been remedied. So I I have
>> remedied or we've made proc progress.
[46:25] » They have been remedied.
>> Oh my lord.
[46:27] » So the sewer there's there was a sewer
there was an issue with the sewer
[46:31] backing up into the basement. Uh I have
a receipt from the the the attorney for
[46:38] the trustees sent me a receipt. Um they
cleaned the sewer out. They did a they
[46:44] snaked it. So it everything is is
working now. And they also have a
[46:48] company coming in or by this point
probably came in already to uh clean out
[46:54] the basement completely. Um and with
that we the there was a you guys I'm
[47:01] sure you guys were told but the mayor
came in and spoke with the building
[47:06] department and also spoke with the um
>> social worker the trustees
[47:11] » and the trustees and basically kicked
this into gear. got this going uh got
[47:17] them moving uh lit a fire under the
butts of the people that he needed to
[47:20] light a fire under the butts from the
county and got this moving forward. Um
[47:25] and at that point our building
department moved into action and put
[47:29] some colorful stickers on the doors
which really got things moving and um
[47:35] there we are. So my my understanding is
everything's taken care of and there
[47:41] might be a change going forward. Um, I
don't need to get into that, but there
[47:45] might be a change going forward where
this doesn't happen again. Hopefully,
[47:48] the the the instigators of this will not
be doing this again.
[47:52] » Is there uh
>> I'm talking in code. I'm sorry. No, I
[47:56] understand
in first of all, the front is just in
[48:01] general disrepair. Is there going to be
some, you know, lawnmowing in the front
[48:06] and cleanup of the situation in the
backyard, the outside? My understanding
[48:11] is um there might be a new situation
over there where the people that that
[48:17] » No, I understand what you're talking
about.
[48:19] » They're going to be fixing it up.
>> Okay.
[48:21] » But but as it stands now, everything's
going to be brought into uh code.
[48:25] » Yeah. So all the stuff outside is going
to be removed.
[48:28] » Correct. Everything that's out there
will be removed. A company's going to
[48:31] come in and take care of that if they
haven't already. Um and everything's
[48:35] working as it should. So there'll be no
need to do what was being done.
[48:40] Although I don't know how that could
even possibly be the solution, but it
[48:43] was. Um, but anyway, it's taken care of.
>> Will there be followup by the building
[48:49] department or property maintenance to
ensure that the these things are
[48:55] done?
>> Um, we don't have we don't have access
[48:58] to go in there,
>> but on the out the things that they were
[49:01] just discussing on the on the
>> Yeah, we'll be able to we'll be the the
[49:04] the count the board of health will be
able to go the you know, as you know, we
[49:07] use the county for our border of health.
we have a a shared service,
[49:10] » they'll be able to go and confirm
because there was a notice of violation
[49:14] on that. So, they'll have to know uh go
there and double check to make sure that
[49:17] it was remediated. So, they'll be able
to tell uh check on that. Uh a lot of
[49:22] the the fines that were going to be
racked up were at some point kicked into
[49:27] daily fines. So, there was an incentive
for the the attorneys to take care of
[49:31] this and and get everything taking get
everything done so that they weren't
[49:35] incurring those daily fines.
>> Okay. So, if you could keep us updated
[49:39] about I will
>> that we would be very appreciative.
[49:42] » Yep. Um,
we got the the camp started on Monday.
[49:48] Um, going well. Uh,
>> Barb, do we have the uh I'm sorry. Do we
[49:53] have that resolution? I spaced on that
>> for the director.
[49:56] » Yeah. Yes.
>> Okay. uh you'll see there's a a
[49:59] resolution to name uh the the
>> assistant
[50:03] » assistant director right now as acting
director and there will be the pay
[50:07] increase obviously because she's doing
the position of that of uh the director.
[50:11] There was an issue a health issue with
the the director that would have been
[50:15] there this year. Uh we're praying that
he comes back next year, but in the
[50:19] meantime we have somebody also that will
be replacing her as the assistant. Just
[50:23] moving everybody's basically just moving
up the line. Um, I'm hearing great
[50:27] things so far about the camp. We got a
brand new ping pong table because the
[50:30] other two were ratty and older. We got a
real sturdy one now. Um, and um,
[50:37] everything that I'm hearing right now,
at least in this early stage, people are
[50:41] happy.
>> Do you want to talk about the cutting
[50:44] through?
[50:48] » We could.
>> I think it might be a good idea.
[50:50] » Okay. Um, maybe. Okay. Yeah. Um,
as you guys know, because you guys are
[50:58] the ones who did it, you had the the
guts to actually do this. Um, you put
[51:01] the gate on the entrance to Duvier.
Unfortunately, I think a couple people
[51:08] came in and complained and it was never
closed, so it's just there. Um, we've
[51:13] had several
near close calls last year and we've had
[51:19] one that I know for sure since the
pool's been open, a close call. And by
[51:23] close call, I mean either a kid, either
a child or on a bike or a child walking
[51:29] or an an older adult walking across from
one side of the parking lot to the side
[51:35] that's up against the fence and having
to either stop or speed up because a car
[51:42] is coming through the drive. Basically,
they use the parking lot like a road
[51:46] parking lot as a cut through to not have
to go on to Central to get onto Route 17
[51:51] or vice versa. not have to go through
Hergusell and all that. They just come
[51:55] through the they just come through um
from 17 that way and go into Maywood.
[52:00] They they basically skip they beat
traffic. But that's all well and good in
[52:07] the winter, fall, and spring, but in the
summer when we have camp and the pool,
[52:13] it's a real hazard. And it's not a
matter of when of of if. It's a matter
[52:18] of when somebody actually gets hit by a
car. I'm not saying it's going to be a
[52:24] life and death situation. Could be, but
I mean, just touching somebody's body
[52:28] with a vehicle is going to do damage,
especially if it's a kid. Now, many
[52:32] times these kids are so hopped up on
sugar or just happy to go either to the
[52:37] pool or leave the pool. They just had a
great time. They're excited. They're on
[52:41] their bike. They just took their bike
off the bike rack and they want to go
[52:44] home and they're not thinking. They're
talking to their friends and all it
[52:47] takes is that split second and the kids
hit by a car. And because these people
[52:51] don't necessarily
drive slow through there either, they go
[52:56] at the speed they want to get to. They
want to get to Route 17 basically is
[53:01] what they're trying to do or get home.
So, they're not exactly going slow. Um,
[53:05] and even if they are, if a kid's not
looking, it doesn't matter because
[53:08] they're going to get hit. So, what I
would ask you guys to think about, and I
[53:12] know this was the chief's recommendation
from day one, which is during the
[53:16] summer, and he could speak to this um if
he wants to, but I I have talked to him
[53:20] about it. During the summer when the
pool and camp is open, Duvier is just
[53:24] closed. The entrance from Duvier is just
closed. We get some kind of signage and
[53:29] we put it on Lennox saying that it's
closed so people don't come in traffic
[53:34] cuz once you come in on Duvia, it's a
dead end over there. unless you go
[53:37] through. If it's closed, you have to
back up. So, if we have some kind of
[53:40] signage on Lennox letting people know
that there's no cut through. And then
[53:44] now the only way to get into the pool or
out of the pool is uh central Brook
[53:50] Central Hericell Brookke. Uh that's the
way to get in and out. Now, you're ahead
[53:56] of time because you guys dealt with this
prior uh probably around 2020 2021ish.
[54:03] Um, people on Lennox or people close to
Lennox Toma are going to be real angry
[54:08] because they can't drive to the pool now
that way. They can walk to the pool.
[54:14] They could ride their bikes to the pool,
but they can't drive into the pool that
[54:17] way. Nor can they exit the pool that
would they be able to exit the pool to
[54:20] go home. So, they are going to have to
go out and it's going to be an
[54:24] imposition. I get it. But the the
thought is what's a bigger imposition
[54:30] having to spend the rest of your summer
in a cast because you broke your leg cuz
[54:34] you got hit by a car if and that's the
best case scenario. You you're you know
[54:38] you're tied up in traction because
you're a little kid and now you can't
[54:42] enjoy the rest of the summer because I
live on Lennox and I didn't want to have
[54:46] to go all the way around on Central. And
I'm not picking on people on Lennox. It
[54:49] could be anywhere in town. It could be
Lafayette Avenue. I just didn't want to
[54:52] have to go on central and the long way.
>> But that's what we're going to run into.
[54:58] That's the kind of um obstacles push
back we're going to get. But I think
[55:02] when people realize that we have had
um several that I know of for sure last
[55:07] year two near me miss miss miss miss
[55:08] miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
[55:08] miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
[55:08] miss miss miss miss miss miss miss miss
miss miss miss miss misses and those are
[55:09] the ones reported not everybody report
they don't go back and tell um
[55:14] » I mean one of the reasons that the camp
is maybe we we didn't have as many near
[55:21] misses because last year anytime the
kids cross we're
[55:27] » you know they it was being blocked by an
officer and what we're doing
[55:31] and the direct director. I mean, that's
the only reason, but it's specifically
[55:36] we have to do that because of that crazy
cut through.
[55:40] » So, now we're doing that with the camp.
So, that solves the issue for the camp.
[55:44] It does.
>> So, that's an extra. We're bringing an
[55:46] officer,
>> the officer comes down and and the w
[55:50] director takes care or or the camp
director will take care of closing
[55:53] closing off for those few minutes while
the kids walk down or actually some for
[55:57] the most part they get dropped off down
there. So they don't have to walk down
[56:00] but they do it for when they walk back.
But that does all that does is we are
[56:03] able to protect
>> the campers for that one walk. We're not
[56:08] able to protect for the rest of the day.
>> We have to institute something like that
[56:12] because of the cut through. Correct.
>> Right. I mean, still not that we
[56:14] wouldn't walk the kids, you know, during
the time, but you know, it's even more
[56:18] we've got this extra blocking off that's
happening just for
[56:22] » I I think and what I'm suggesting is at
least for now, I'm just suggesting the
[56:27] council think about just during camp
season and pool season. I'm not during
[56:32] that should honestly that should not be
a cutthrough for anything because it's
[56:35] just wear and tear, wear and tear. And
we also do have uh senior groups that
[56:40] are there. I mean,
>> it's not as frequent.
[56:43] » People coming and going to coaches,
>> but at the end of the day, that's what's
[56:46] happening. That's a cut through and I
can't stand that because it's wear and
[56:51] tear.
>> I anytime I've ever been down in the
[56:53] pool, there's always somebody flying
through that lot.
[56:56] » Yeah.
>> The day we did the Pro Lodge Day of
[56:58] Impact, they were staging out there
getting stuff into the into the cars. We
[57:01] almost got hit three times. Yeah.
>> And then somebody actually had the
[57:04] audacity to lean on their horn because
we were in their way as they were trying
[57:07] to fly through that. People were doing
that with the with the truck like the
[57:11] the the tractor thingy. What are those
things called? A front loader. Uh when
[57:15] they were putting the mulch in and
people were just like this person was
[57:18] honking on the horn. I like walked
around. I'm like,
[57:21] » is there a gate at the other end?
>> There's there's a there's a it's not the
[57:25] trial gate. It's actually the black gate
that matches the fence.
[57:28] » Would it make more sense to maybe close
that one as opposed to on Duvier?
[57:35] » Chief, you want to speak to that one?
>> Yeah, cuz they'll get all the way
[57:37] through. I'll go through
>> the main entrance.
[57:41] It's a wider open
[57:47] [clears throat]
>> and the kids play basketball during the
[57:51] summer camp right there as well. I know
we use the big blue
[57:55] barriers, but
>> they're going back and forth. It's not
[57:59] like they only cross that the one time.
>> I think if if if we do close it, um I
[58:06] don't know. We have to definitely let
>> we need signage
[58:10] » that that it's being closed. Yeah. So
that barrier a barrier cross duty there
[58:14] with a sign saying I I mean we could hit
all kinds of I know we make jokes every
[58:20] five minutes like oh put in the hour
town but we would put in the hour town.
[58:23] » Um
>> the hour town
[58:24] » we joke around like
>> the physical signs of
[58:27] » we would and we would put it we would
put it on the digital sign. Hey this is
[58:30] closed. um is during this time get you
know um they have those signs like that
[58:35] we could put right there on the corner
like as of such and such a date this
[58:40] road will be closed.
>> Yeah. I think that with the chief uh one
[58:43] of the things I talked about with the
chief one of the things that popped up
[58:46] was like that the you know those signs
that almost say um uh like wet when the
[58:53] ground's wet you put it up it's like a
triangle. Something similar to that. not
[58:57] as flimsy obviously, but something like
that that's that's there that just
[59:00] basically speaks to this is closed
during this time because I I don't think
[59:05] if you put some and it's right there
because if you put something that's like
[59:08] a on a on a pole or something, it's
easily missed and you don't
[59:12] » you're talking about ava electronic
signed. I think I
[59:16] » Are you talking about electronic sign or
a sign?
[59:19] » Electronic sign. I think that's what
she's talking about. electronic sign
[59:21] like the ones that say like road work
happening here
[59:23] » construction
>> like the construction coming
[59:26] » is indicating that's not what he wants
>> I think just I think just what I think
[59:30] what do they I forgot what they call
those signs
[59:32] » like a warning like a yellow sign or
something that says
[59:35] » a sandwich sign you're think
>> would you like to
[59:39] » a plastic folding sign
>> yeah put it on Lennox Avenue at so you
[59:44] can see it as you're coming down the
block can't put it on the side of the
[59:47] road
>> gate closed then can and leave.
[59:50] Otherwise, everybody's going to go down
beer and now you're going to have
[59:54] » and would you put it also at Lennox and
Maywood Avenue
[59:57] » to stop them from
>> But I think after you guys make a
[1:00:01] decision to close it, you do a rave, you
get the signs made, you give a deadline
[1:00:06] when it's and then that's it.
>> And then people that don't know are
[1:00:09] going to cut down Lennox. They're going
to see it before they get to do and
[1:00:12] they're going to turn on.
>> Yeah.
[1:00:15] » And go around.
>> Will help. Sorry.
[1:00:18] » So if we [laughter]
The re the reason why we couldn't
[1:00:21] » she just made a scrabble a word of
search for that.
[1:00:24] » There's a there's people that live on
they live on there. So,
[1:00:26] » right. You can't close that. And will we
reopen it at 8:00 once the pool is
[1:00:30] closed or are we keeping it closed?
>> No, just it's going to be locked. It
[1:00:33] would just
>> for the whole summer season.
[1:00:36] » Yes. Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:00:37] » And then just keep everybody safe. And I
would ask that when you send out the
[1:00:40] messaging that the just my opinion as
the editor uh the first thing you know
[1:00:47] for you know the utmost safety of of
children and pedestrians the decision
[1:00:52] has been made so people understand that
this is like a safety issue.
[1:00:55] » Editor for as minute I just thought the
newspaper I was like did you
[1:00:58] » No no no I'm not the newspaper editor.
I'm just an editor editor.
[1:01:01] » I get it. I get it. But but to put that
first that this is about this is you
[1:01:06] know it in you know with the with the
children and pedestrian safety being of
[1:01:11] utmost importance the difficult decision
has been made toah
[1:01:15] no but in the messaging.
>> Yeah. I mean we get listen I I I think
[1:01:18] this
>> I think it should have it
[1:01:21] » we should have this is something I would
I would have done this when I was the
[1:01:26] mayor. I would have the council we would
have put this together. I didn't think
[1:01:29] of it. You guys actually did it. Yeah.
>> But then, you know, when people
[1:01:35] » when people complain,
>> we have to have the courage of our
[1:01:37] convictions. And I don't think our, you
know, it's one thing for a police
[1:01:41] officer
who is trained to do traffic control, to
[1:01:47] be stopping traffic, but to have our
wreck director down there do, you know,
[1:01:52] holding off mad drivers with her body is
like insane. And that we had someone
[1:01:56] doing that.
>> Young kids [clears throat] get verbally
[1:01:59] abused. She shouldn't have to do that.
It's it's
[1:02:03] » Can we the the pool membership? Don't we
have all their
[1:02:06] » Yes, we can.
>> Yeah, we have we
[1:02:07] » that's our target audience.
>> We have their emails
[1:02:11] » people cutting through
>> from community pass.
[1:02:13] » You know who else?
>> Well, I don't care.
[1:02:15] » The business I agree with Ryan on that.
The businesses on Brook Avenue need to
[1:02:19] be notified too.
>> Yeah.
[1:02:22] » Community that and I think we should
think about working on Halcraftoft next
[1:02:26] » but I don't want to get ahead of
ourselves.
[1:02:28] » Yeah. talk if we're eliminating
>> fire tonight, sir. [laughter]
[1:02:34] » All right. Shall we move the things
along? I I would like to say the air
[1:02:38] conditioning has come on. So, now we've
gotten into
[1:02:40] » Where are we with this? Where do we
leave off?
[1:02:43] » It sounds like Well, is everyone in
agreement? Do we need a motion or a
[1:02:46] resolution, John, or is it just Does
anyone object?
[1:02:49] » I mean, the gates's in place already.
It's just a matter of locking
[1:02:51] » to the plan that we have.
>> What would the date be that we're giving
[1:02:54] that this thing is closed?
>> The camp started already. No, I know.
[1:02:57] But we can't just close it. I mean, we
can
[1:02:59] » I don't know how long it takes to make
signs up. So, I mean, to get
[1:03:02] » How long does it take you to make a
sign?
[1:03:04] » Gary's not here. Um,
>> well, then it can be faster.
[1:03:08] » Maybe as of July 1st. It's the 23rd.
That gives a week.
[1:03:12] » I I'll find out from Gary tomorrow.
>> Okay. I mean, really, as soon as
[1:03:16] possible.
>> Do we even need this? I I'm I But I know
[1:03:18] we've bered the sign thing. Can't we do
lawn signs which could be printed in
[1:03:23] like two or three days and they're back
front and back and we can put them on
[1:03:27] the corners of Maywood still.
>> It's a lot easier to say I I missed
[1:03:30] that. I didn't see it. You know,
>> we buy 10 of them and line them down.
[1:03:35] » I I think that I I hear what you're
saying, but I think to the chief's
[1:03:38] point, it's it's in it's there. You
can't miss it in the road. It's a lot
[1:03:42] easier to ignore signs that are on a
lawn because I mean they're they're
[1:03:45] ubiquous. They're everywhere. one says,
you know,
[1:03:47] » I'm trying to go for expediency and and
visual. If you got 10 of these signs
[1:03:51] lined up and it say road closed, you
know, duvier closed [clears throat] as
[1:03:56] » could, for the sake of moving things
along, c can we is it amanable to
[1:04:02] everybody if the chief and Adrian and
Gary put their heads together with the
[1:04:07] understanding that we want everybody to
be safe and we want this to happen as
[1:04:10] quickly as possible and you will keep us
surprised. And if anyone has a
[1:04:14] completely massive objection, please
alert the hounds. Okay. Is that fair?
[1:04:20] Can we do that? All right. Let's move
on.
[1:04:22] » Okay.
>> Um, so what what are we up to, Barbara?
[1:04:25] » Uh, I was just I was actually
>> Oh, you're not done.
[1:04:28] » No, that was a You brought me to
>> There's more. Wait,
[1:04:31] » there is there actually isn't more, but
I just I was about to say um That's it.
[1:04:36] » Do you want to There was the senior
center. You were going to say something
[1:04:38] about that. No, you don't want to. Just
say it quickly. Don't look at me in that
[1:04:42] tone.
>> The the senior center is uh being
[1:04:46] remodeled the out front, the outside re
um
[1:04:50] » something rehabed. Rehabbed
>> rehabilitated. We have the samples
[1:04:54] upstairs uh for of the stone of the
siding of the colors. So, anybody wants
[1:04:59] to take a look um once we pick a final
color, the architect has already done
[1:05:05] the design. He'll put that into the mix.
we be he'll spit out one of those things
[1:05:09] where you could look at it on an easel,
>> an elevation.
[1:05:12] » There you go. And then from there,
>> it's a go.
[1:05:17] » We're going to have to go out to bid
obviously
[1:05:20] » and um this money has been bonded for
>> uh and it's ready. It'll be ready to go.
[1:05:26] hope is to have this taken place if we
can coincide with the the ending of the
[1:05:32] camp and the beginning of the the
umenior
[1:05:36] » senior club season
>> with the bids with the bid process
[1:05:40] » and if that can fall into place
everything works out we might be able to
[1:05:43] do that work in between.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:46] » Um
>> make sure you unlock the gate. So
[1:05:49] everyone go get up there and look at
that if not tonight at some other point
[1:05:53] so you can see it and and yes we needed
the designs because it has to go out to
[1:05:59] bed. So that's why that happened. Um all
righty then. Um
[1:06:03] » so could we bond for our offices next
year
[1:06:06] » so we can have privacy in our offices?
>> Getting crazy now.
[1:06:11] » Just throwing that out there.
>> Just throw it out there. So, um, on the
[1:06:15] list,
>> we're on to committee reports. Should I
[1:06:19] do the mayor's report or
>> did he give you a report?
[1:06:23] » He didn't give me his report other than
to talk about
[1:06:27] » the thing. I mean, I can just quickly do
my report. Um, which isn't that
[1:06:32] complicated. We had an excellent
meeting. Uh we actually got a small
[1:06:39] grant from sustainable Jersey for the
SJPSG energy efficiency efficiency
[1:06:46] partnership program.
It's a $2500 grant program, but it's
[1:06:51] also technical assistance and Tara,
Doug, Adrian, and I had a an initial
[1:06:57] like a kickoff meeting. Uh we're going
to have a few more meetings and the
[1:07:00] whole point of this is to put together a
uh community outreach campaign uh so
[1:07:08] that we can educate the community about
existing
[1:07:14] energy efficiency programs that will
help them save money on their electric
[1:07:16] bills and make their house more energy
efficient. It's there's actually a lot
[1:07:20] of good programs available that people
don't know about. And one of the things
[1:07:25] that's besides the $2,500 that's nice is
there's actually additional money
[1:07:30] available
um like up to 5,000 I think she said for
[1:07:34] other sorts of things like we were
talking about tablets to sign people in
[1:07:38] to programs and things like that. Um so
there's potentially more money but they
[1:07:42] are also willing to do a mailing for us
which a mailing is like $3,000. So
[1:07:50] that's a great, you know, once it's all
designed, they're going to give us a
[1:07:54] page, like a desk, a landing page for
information about Maywood and energy
[1:08:00] efficiency. So we'll be able to send
people to this website. They're also
[1:08:04] going to help us with collateral like
door hangers and other sorts of things.
[1:08:07] So, they're bringing a lot of help and
we're going to be able to help the
[1:08:10] residents and uh we did sort of figure
out in the meeting that we're going to
[1:08:14] be able to use this uh you know once we
get this stood up and we have this um
[1:08:21] infrastructure in place to communicate
with everybody when prologus gets going
[1:08:25] and their community solar project gets
approved we'll be able to use what we've
[1:08:30] created to communicate with the public
about that and perhaps other things. So,
[1:08:34] it, you know, it seems like a good
program. We have a couple more meetings
[1:08:39] set up and we have an a few assignments
and I'm supposed to be sending an email
[1:08:43] reminding everybody about what they're
doing and I will do that. Um, I also
[1:08:48] because uh going on with green team
would like to thank the uh Green Team
[1:08:53] Maywood Arts Collective and the Maywood
Crochet Club for their yarn bomb textile
[1:09:00] art installation on Pleasant Avenue. Um,
they do this every year. I believe
[1:09:05] there's actually an international yarn
bomb day. Um, but it's just a fun,
[1:09:11] wonderful art project that they bring to
the down downtown area. It's very
[1:09:15] whimsical and um, so it's fun to see the
work that they've done over the year.
[1:09:20] They who knew, right? They um, they're
picking it up tomorrow in case anybody
[1:09:26] is curious about that. It's just a short
period of time. Um, and they're still
[1:09:29] looking for people to come to the green
fair. So, if you know of any
[1:09:32] organizations that would be appropriate
for that, please turn them on to Tara.
[1:09:37] Uh, Shade Tree is still collecting um
names for people who are interested in
[1:09:41] getting trees for the fall planting. And
the other uh big excitement in the
[1:09:46] Burough of Maywood this week was that
the mobile motor vehicle
[1:09:52] commission uh I'm like, what does MVC
stand for actually? Motor vehicle
[1:09:56] commission. Uh the mobile unit came to
Maywood on Saturday. Uh the you know
[1:10:04] they bring this big trailer. They went
to the library. It's always a very last
[1:10:08] minute thing apparently when they do it
on a Saturday. They call you on Tuesday
[1:10:12] and you need to stand this up by
Saturday. So Caitlyn uh who was very
[1:10:19] helpful and agreeable about doing
something seemingly very last minute.
[1:10:24] She jumped into action. And we got
Adrian got the flyers updated. We got
[1:10:28] the information out to everybody. Um
people were able to get real IDs and
[1:10:34] other things by appointment. You were
able to do things walk up. Uh every
[1:10:38] single appointment they had was filled.
The uh truck was busy from the minute
[1:10:43] they opened to the minute they closed.
Uh it they had uh Spanish speaking staff
[1:10:49] there, so they were able to help people
in uh you know who needed that. and we
[1:10:54] serve they served over 106 people over
the course of the day. So it was an
[1:10:59] absolute rip roaring success and uh just
want to thank Caitlyn and Chris Hillman
[1:11:04] of the DMV for bringing them to us. I
asked him to sign us up for future dates
[1:11:10] and he said he would keep us in mind but
he's got a lot of people in front of us
[1:11:13] now. Uh and anyway with that concludes
my report. Uh so who we got? Katherine
[1:11:20] » progress.
>> Okay Doug. progress as well.
[1:11:24] » Oh, you guys. Claire
>> progress.
[1:11:27] » Oh, geez. Louise, [laughter] don't you
want to talk about
[1:11:32] » Wait, I've got eight things. I
apologize. [laughter]
[1:11:34] » No, no. Really?
>> No. No.
[1:11:35] » Ryan,
>> I just I'm very briefly I I was just
[1:11:39] going to get something on
>> talking agenda
[1:11:42] » into your mic.
>> Oh, no. Just communicate uh with Barbara
[1:11:47] and Adrian about getting something on
our next agenda. There's a group um the
[1:11:52] Northeastern Community Council for the
MS Society came and did a mapping
[1:11:56] project of walkability of Maywood. So,
they just wanted to come and present
[1:12:02] their findings like 10 15 minute uh
thing.
[1:12:06] » Oh, interesting.
>> That's cool. Thank you.
[1:12:09] » Ryan, do we have the information to to
reach out to them to schedule it?
[1:12:13] » Yes.
>> Okay.
[1:12:14] » All right. I'll also copy you. I'll you
you'll be the point. I can share that
[1:12:20] information,
>> Barbara. Awesome.
[1:12:22] » Perfect. All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Ryan.
[1:12:25] » Of course,
>> for at least having a report unlike the
[1:12:27] rest of these guys. Um, okay. So, now
we're on to new business resolutions for
[1:12:33] consideration.
Um, does any how does everyone feel
[1:12:37] about this resolution urging the New
Jersey state legislature and governor to
[1:12:43] repeal the gas tax escalator and restore
accountability to fuel tax increase?
[1:12:50] Does anyone have any thoughts, opinions,
any interest?
[1:12:54] » Are there other towns? Obviously, this
is
[1:12:56] » why that's why I sent it because a lot
of towns are now passing this and
[1:13:01] spreading it around.
I have to be honest, I don't know much
[1:13:05] about it or what the implications of it
are. So, I don't feel like I'm
[1:13:09] particularly prepared to
speak for or against it. Does anyone
[1:13:14] else have any thoughts?
>> I think if lots of other towns are doing
[1:13:16] it, we should just hop on the bandwagon.
[laughter]
[1:13:21] » Okay. How does everybody feel?
>> I definitely feel like we should very
[1:13:25] least put it on the agenda and so we
could all look at it and discuss it.
[1:13:29] » All right. So, I'll list it as old
business next month. Okay. So, everyone
[1:13:33] take a look, see what there is to see.
We can ask
[1:13:38] I don't know. We can ask, you know,
maybe it's a good idea to ask Lisa and
[1:13:41] Chris if they can tell us what it's all
about. They might be able to give us
[1:13:43] some information.
>> And to Cla's point,
[1:13:45] » it's probably self-explanatory. Usually
they are when they ask you to support
[1:13:48] something.
>> So, please everyone take a look and read
[1:13:50] it and we'll [clears throat]
discuss it next meeting.
[1:13:53] » I was just going to say to Cla's point,
there's usually um strength in numbers.
[1:13:57] These are the kind of things when you
get the whole all the municipalities as
[1:14:01] many as possible at least.
>> Well, we have to make sure it's all
[1:14:03] sometimes you get thrown these things
and then find out that there's
[1:14:06] » if this assuming that this is something
that's good for New Jersey and the
[1:14:09] residents and the more municipalities
you get on board.
[1:14:12] » That's when things move.
>> So, let's hope it is good after
[1:14:16] reviewing it. Let's hope it is good for
the town for the communities.
[1:14:19] » That would be great. And then we have
the Bergen County Snow Plow salting
[1:14:22] agreement for 2026 2028. So this is here
because it's new. Are there any changes
[1:14:28] here we need to be alarmed about? This
is the county.
[1:14:30] » Well, no. This is what we So what this
agreement does is the county pays us for
[1:14:36] our workers who all the county roads and
>> they supply the salt.
[1:14:41] » They Right. So after snowstorms, Gary
provides me with the individuals and the
[1:14:48] hours they worked on what streets and
then we submit that and the county pays
[1:14:53] us.
>> Okay.
[1:14:54] » For towards the hours going up what
they're paying us then. Yeah. Okay.
[1:14:59] » Because of the new contract.
>> So do this for the new to for Yeah. for
[1:15:02] two years.
>> So what do you need us to do here? Agree
[1:15:04] to put it on the next meeting or do you
want to approve at this meeting?
[1:15:07] » No, for the next meeting. We have time.
Um,
[1:15:11] then we already discussed the proposal
from Neglia. There's a block party
[1:15:15] request for Edel Avenue. Uh, they're
having a party on August 8th if anybody
[1:15:19] wants to stop by. No, I'm kidding. Um,
shall we uh approve that? Are there any
[1:15:25] objections?
>> Oh,
[1:15:28] » does um
>> Oh, we we got the response from the
[1:15:31] police chief, the fire chief. They've
supplied their um certificate of
[1:15:35] insurance and they've signed the hold
harmless.
[1:15:38] » Okay.
>> Okay. Okay, thank you. Good question,
[1:15:40] Claire. Um, all right. So then I guess
we that is approved and the bylaws. So
[1:15:47] what do we need to do with this? Do we
need to p pass
[1:15:50] » a first and a second and a vote?
>> Okay, so we've amended the bylaws
[1:15:57] to correct
that the municipal alliance was moving
[1:16:02] uh moved from Jackie now Kyla to Doug.
Uh that was actually something we agreed
[1:16:07] to in December and got lost in our reorg
shuffle. And we are just officially
[1:16:13] stating that all of Jackie's committee
assignments or committee positions and
[1:16:19] liaison positions are now going to be
taken over by Kyla. Um so I just need a
[1:16:26] first and a second to
>> approve. So Doug,
[1:16:30] » I'll second.
>> Okay. On roll call. Bennon,
[1:16:33] » yes.
>> Herrick,
[1:16:34] » yes. Pavano,
>> yes.
[1:16:36] » Almond,
>> yes.
[1:16:36] » Flynn,
>> yes.
[1:16:38] » Motion carries.
>> Okay. So, here we are with garbage, our
[1:16:42] favorite topic. Um,
>> garbage.
[1:16:45] » My understanding, and Barbara, you can
clarify because you'll know more about
[1:16:50] this probably at this point than I do.
This is basically the bid document going
[1:16:54] out. So, you guys got a chance to look
at it hopefully. Um, we do need to get
[1:16:58] it out because I believe the contract's
up in what, August?
[1:17:02] » It's up in September. We're already in
going to be doing a month month with GA
[1:17:06] because I have to advertise it and we
cannot accept bids for six months.
[1:17:09] » Yeah.
>> Six months.
[1:17:10] » Six months.
>> Okay. So, we have to get crack in here.
[1:17:13] Obviously, there was a couple of
highlights where the dates were wrong
[1:17:16] and I'm assuming those are going to get
fixed.
[1:17:18] » Well, yes, because that right because it
depends on me getting the approval
[1:17:22] » that you guys were good with it. So, I'm
going to change the date
[1:17:26] » because that's the last
>> No.
[1:17:28] » Okay. Well, no, that wasn't the last
time.
[1:17:30] » It was highlighted so I knew you caught
it already. Um
[1:17:32] » yeah, so um Councilwoman Smith's name is
going to be change going to be replaced,
[1:17:39] uh Jackie Demorro. Um the dates of when
the bid is going to be available for
[1:17:45] pickup, when the bids are going to be
coming back, and then the alternate bids
[1:17:49] include the suggestion for the once a
week and for the recycling. um if a
[1:17:56] recycling falls on a major holiday that
it would be picked up the following
[1:18:00] Saturday
>> and it's clear those are like optional
[1:18:03] options or
>> they're alter
[1:18:07] but it but they're optional like are
we're not requiring everybody to
[1:18:11] » but what do we decide are they I don't
think they're required to bid on all the
[1:18:15] models
>> I don't think they're yeah they're not
[1:18:17] required because you don't have to you
know if you like garbage from one
[1:18:21] company but you like recycling from
another company if you you can do two
[1:18:25] different companies.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:18:27] » And and if they don't want to bid on the
once a week, they don't have to. But
[1:18:30] we're not because I want to make sure
that we get as many companies bidding as
[1:18:34] possible because that's
>> no matter what you do, you're not going
[1:18:36] to get
>> you're only going to get one. But, you
[1:18:37] know, I don't want us to do anything to
make it worse.
[1:18:40] » If you if you're lucky, you may get two.
>> Yeah.
[1:18:44] » Because you only got one last one.
>> Yeah. I Well, we don't want to drive the
[1:18:47] one away either. No. [laughter]
>> So, if that's the only thing. All right.
[1:18:51] Does anybody have any corrections in
addition to the ones that have been
[1:18:55] identified?
>> No. So, uh, Barbara, what do we have to
[1:18:59] do tomorrow and get it advertised?
>> All right. So, you don't need a vote on
[1:19:03] that.
>> No, we already have a resolution for me
[1:19:05] to go out to to advertise. I just wanted
to make sure everybody was good with the
[1:19:09] alternates.
>> All right. So, now we are on to the
[1:19:12] consent agenda.
Um,
[1:19:17] I just I'm sorry. I have to actually
check one thing really quickly. Um,
[1:19:26] h
hold please. One. Oh, Barbara.
[1:19:32] » Oh, it's me. It's me. And I'm just not
being smart. Hold on one second. So, has
[1:19:38] everybody had a chance to look at all of
these? And uh do we have to form a block
[1:19:44] and then vote or just vote?
>> No, it's a consent agenda. It's a block.
[1:19:48] It's we don't do blocks anymore.
>> Okay.
[1:19:50] » It's a consent.
>> I always feel like that we should do the
[1:19:52] blocks. Okay. Uh
>> consent agenda is the block
[1:19:56] » and then we do motion motion discussion.
Is that the order or do we discuss
[1:20:01] first?
>> You could do the motions and then
[1:20:03] discuss.
>> All right. Um so motion to move ahead
[1:20:08] with the consent agenda. I'll make the
motion.
[1:20:10] » Second.
>> Second.
[1:20:12] » Okay. I have a question. Um,
does anybody else have a question?
[1:20:17] First, let me ask.
No, no question. Uh, I just wanted to
[1:20:23] talk about the number that we are doing
on the 15626
[1:20:30] and see if are we allowed to talk about
this?
[1:20:34] » What do you mean the number?
>> The rate. The hourly rate.
[1:20:38] Yeah. Well,
Karen's officially an employee that
[1:20:43] hasn't been raced,
>> but this is now a new resolution for a
[1:20:46] new position.
>> John,
[1:20:49] » wait.
>> You're going to discuss an employee
[1:20:51] that's supposed to be raised.
>> Wait, wait, one second. One second. I'm
[1:20:53] sorry. Are you asking Are you asking
about the rate for the new employee or
[1:20:59] for the current employee that's moving
up? a
[1:21:01] » current employee that's moving up
>> the Well, it would
[1:21:06] » If you're going to change the
compensation down, she has to be right.
[1:21:10] » No, it's going up.
>> No, she's getting a raise. It's just how
[1:21:13] » she's going to the same.
>> No, but if it's being it's going if it's
[1:21:15] going to be different than what she was
told, it has to be discussed.
[1:21:18] » I mean, it has she has to receive a rice
notice.
[1:21:20] » Yeah. You just if you're just
questioning what she's already going to
[1:21:24] get and you're not going to change what
she's already been told, then you're
[1:21:27] fine.
>> Correct. It's the same as what the um
[1:21:31] the council approved. It's the same
number the council approved for the
[1:21:36] director had that director been able to
take over this year.
[1:21:42] » I don't know what I can say.
>> I think you need to say that based on
[1:21:45] what then she needs to be raced
>> and that you want this taken off of the
[1:21:49] consent
>> consent agenda.
[1:21:50] » Wait, I'm not understanding. It's
>> Well, we haven't discussed the amount.
[1:21:54] Well, now I mean I can't really talk
about this. Is it possible for us? We
[1:21:57] can't go into closed.
>> Well, wait. This is the amount that you
[1:22:01] guys approved for the
>> or a different person with different
[1:22:03] with different certifications and
different qualifications.
[1:22:07] » I don't think we're in a position where
we can mess around with with the camp
[1:22:12] director.
>> She's already started.
[1:22:14] » Yes.
>> Yeah. No, you can't.
[1:22:16] » What are we doing here?
>> She's already started. You can't change
[1:22:19] the salary.
>> We didn't off We didn't authorize.
[1:22:25] You didn't authorize this. We didn't
want this. She the the the
[1:22:30] assistant director
>> is had to take over for the director who
[1:22:35] we appointed because the director had
health issues with you guys.
[1:22:38] » And did you tell her what her salary was
going today?
[1:22:44] » Well, it's on the
>> Well, it's on it's on her website.
[1:22:47] » Yeah.
>> And And how when did she start?
[1:22:51] » She started Monday.
>> Okay.
[1:22:53] » I mean, she she would have started
Monday. she would have started working
[1:22:56] Monday anyway as the assistant.
>> So, so, right, but then she's got she
[1:23:00] has the other title and she's under the
impression that she's getting blank
[1:23:04] dollars. She that's in her mind and if
we're going to change that, she has to
[1:23:08] be right because she's a present
employee and you may be taking a
[1:23:11] negative action against her.
>> Negative action. You reduce her salary.
[1:23:15] That's
>> not getting reduced. She's not making
[1:23:17] anything. She's just being paid
currently what she was appointed at in
[1:23:21] the beginning of the year. So she ha she
hasn't been given any increase. This
[1:23:25] would be the
>> I think what John is saying is
[1:23:27] » No, I know what John's saying. This is
the
[1:23:28] » from the resolution. She needs to be
rice noticed.
[1:23:31] » Correct.
>> This So okay. So as long as there's no
[1:23:35] change, there's no issue.
>> You're fine.
[1:23:36] » Yeah.
>> Well,
[1:23:39] » I don't know that we want to be messing
with the camp at this point.
[1:23:43] » It's not about messing with the camp.
It's just about that.
[1:23:46] » All right. Well, how does everyone feel
about this? Do you want to table this?
[1:23:51] get Bryce notice her and have a quick
meeting in two days to discuss it or
[1:23:55] » it's up to you. I'm just saying that
that's what we needed to do to take it
[1:23:59] off. That's up to you.
>> Well, I I would like to know what each
[1:24:03] of you would like to do. Do you want to
wait and do it in two days?
[1:24:05] » We can make a motion, a second to pull
the resolution and then we could vote on
[1:24:09] the first and second to pull that
resolution off the consent agenda.
[1:24:14] » Right. And then
>> and vote on that separately.
[1:24:16] » Vote on it separately. Either yes or no
or take
[1:24:18] » Okay. So, let's pull it out of the
consent agenda. vote on the rest of the
[1:24:21] agenda. Okay.
>> All right. So,
[1:24:23] » you need a motion to pull it out.
>> I need a motion and a second to pull
[1:24:29] 15626 off of the consent agenda.
>> Oh,
[1:24:36] do you guys want to pull it?
>> Yeah, that's fair.
[1:24:38] » I need a first and a second to pull it.
>> I was making the motion for the
[1:24:42] decision. If you want to pull it, then
make then make the motion.
[1:24:46] » Okay. So we're using So Doug, you're
making a first to remove this from the
[1:24:51] consent agenda.
>> Sure.
[1:24:54] » And then
>> Claire's seconding it to remove it
[1:24:57] » to to remove it from there. Sure.
>> Okay. So that's to remove. So on roll
[1:25:02] call, Bennon,
>> yes.
[1:25:06] » Heric,
>> yes.
[1:25:07] » Pavano,
>> yes.
[1:25:09] » Man,
>> no.
[1:25:10] » Flynn,
>> yes.
[1:25:11] » Okay, motion carries.
So now the consent agenda
[1:25:17] that we're voting on is everything
that's there minus 156-26.
[1:25:22] » I'll make the motion for the consent.
>> Yes. But before we do that, how long can
[1:25:28] uh Topgolf hold on to that?
>> So discussion
[1:25:32] » liquor license discussion.
>> Discuss. So both of them, the two that
[1:25:36] are inactive because we have Topgolf and
we have the UEE. The UEE also has a
[1:25:40] liquor license that's inactive. What's
you
[1:25:42] » Urban Edge?
>> Oh, okay.
[1:25:44] » Urban Edge bought the liquor license off
of the one down here where Amichi is.
[1:25:50] » He bought that one when he saw that the
>> the old.
[1:25:55] So he he purchased that when he saw that
Top Golf s was bought for a million
[1:25:59] dollars. I guess he figured he was going
to make So anyway,
[1:26:02] » the state has now created quartiles.
So, the Top Golf, if it is not made
[1:26:10] active by August 1st of next year,
either by them or by selling it to
[1:26:16] somebody who's going to make it active
by August 1st next year, it's dead.
[1:26:21] » Excellent. Thank you.
>> So, that means we'll never get that
[1:26:25] back.
>> Never get that back. The Urban Edge one
[1:26:29] because it's based the cortiles are
based on how long they've been inactive.
[1:26:33] So the urban edge one is the following
August 1st. Now I've notified both
[1:26:39] » 2027 and 2028.
>> Yes.
[1:26:42] » Okay.
>> So I've notified each of them that I've
[1:26:47] told Topgolf you have until you have to
either sell it to somebody or you have
[1:26:54] to make it active or it's dead. There's
no bringing it back. I also let them
[1:26:58] know the same with Urban Edge
>> incentive for that.
[1:27:02] » If they sell it to somebody and somebody
comes into my office to do a transfer of
[1:27:06] these two licenses that they have to be
honest with these people and tell them
[1:27:11] it needs to be active by this date or
it's dead because I will be telling the
[1:27:17] people when it comes in, are you aware
that if you do not have this actively
[1:27:22] working by this date, it's done. So
that's where we're at. What is required?
[1:27:28] What is required to have it actively
working?
[1:27:30] » It has to be in a location being used.
>> And I'm sorry, it's August 1st of 27 and
[1:27:37] » 28. Yes.
>> So, Top Golf 27, Urban Edge is 28.
[1:27:41] » Yeah.
>> So, that's where we're at. Have you both
[1:27:46] have been told
>> and you haven't heard anything from
[1:27:48] them?
>> Top Golf says they're trying to find
[1:27:50] somebody to buy it. Nobody wants to buy
it. I did get a phone call from somebody
[1:27:55] asking
about um how long does it take to do it?
[1:27:59] So, I thought that there might be
somebody there, but they didn't want to
[1:28:02] give me any information. So, I don't
know what they were asking, what license
[1:28:06] they were asking about.
>> Okay. Wow.
[1:28:09] » But yeah. So, yeah. And we'll never get
them back because we are over the um the
[1:28:15] allotted amount. Most of our liquor
licenses are grandfathered in.
[1:28:21] » Thank you. your question.
>> Good question, Ryan. He's on the ball.
[1:28:26] » All right, then.
>> Okay, so
[1:28:28] » we need a vote still.
>> We have Yeah, we have the first and the
[1:28:31] second for the vote for the consent
agenda. So, we have Bennon,
[1:28:34] » yes.
>> Herrick,
[1:28:36] » yes.
>> Pavano,
[1:28:37] » yes.
>> Man,
[1:28:39] » yes.
>> And Flynn,
[1:28:41] » yes.
>> Motion carries on the consent agenda.
[1:28:44] » Okay, so
>> you need a motion to approve, deny, or
[1:28:48] table. Okay. I just would like to pull
the council about what you would like to
[1:28:53] do and you know because if everyone's
prepared to go ahead then we can go
[1:28:57] ahead and if people would like to rice
the employee to have a discussion about
[1:29:02] this topic together
um then we can do that and we I we could
[1:29:07] do it quickly. We can have a Zoom
meeting in a couple of days. Um
[1:29:11] » there is a 48 hour notice.
>> Yeah. Well that's what I meant when I
[1:29:15] said a couple.
>> [laughter]
[1:29:16] » So, um, you know, I want you guys, we
haven't had an opportunity to discuss
[1:29:21] this, which is a little bit what I'm
getting at. So, how does
[1:29:26] » I have no problem leaving it on and
approving it as it stands.
[1:29:30] » Okay. Claire,
>> I I agree with that.
[1:29:32] » Okay. So, then
>> Katherine and Ryan, well,
[1:29:38] » I'm sorry. What What did you both say? I
apologize.
[1:29:40] » They said they have no problem going
ahead as is.
[1:29:46] Okay.
>> Yeah.
[1:29:47] » Right.
>> I mean, I don't if you have a big
[1:29:51] objection though. I mean, I
>> I I want everyone to have the
[1:29:55] opportunity.
Yeah. I understand what you're saying on
[1:29:58] and we didn't discuss.
>> I I I'm going to say that I understand
[1:30:03] what you're saying in in the idea of to
have the discussion is the only reason I
[1:30:07] would not just to to I don't know. I
don't know sort of procedural if you
[1:30:12] will. But I'm okay as it as it stands.
But to your point about
[1:30:16] » yourself for future
>> not having had the discussion prior, I
[1:30:21] can understand we've we usually have a
discussion about something pertaining to
[1:30:25] any employee and
>> just as a matter of procedure, I would
[1:30:28] have preferred there had been a rice
notice and we'd had a close session and
[1:30:32] we'd had a discussion. I would have
preferred that. Um and I think I'm just
[1:30:36] putting a pin in that please for the
future. Thank you.
[1:30:38] » I don't disagree. I mean I agree. Okay.
There's basically With that,
[1:30:44] um,
>> a motion to approve.
[1:30:46] » Can I have a motion to approve on what
do I have to say?
[1:30:49] » 156-26.
>> I'll make the motion.
[1:30:53] » Second.
>> I'll second.
[1:30:55] » Okay. On roll call. Bennon,
>> yes.
[1:30:57] » Perrick,
>> yes.
[1:30:59] » Havano,
>> yes.
[1:31:01] » Man,
>> yes.
[1:31:02] » Flynn,
>> yes.
[1:31:03] » Motion carries.
>> Okay.
[1:31:07] » So,
where are we? Departmental reports.
[1:31:11] » Departmental reports are on file for all
to read if you are so interested.
[1:31:18] » And we have the Tanic.
>> Uh
[1:31:22] Mr. Brown, would you care to give a very
very very
[1:31:28] short Tanic report?
>> It's on file.
[1:31:30] » It's on file. [laughter]
>> Do you want Can you keep it brief
[1:31:34] because we're tired?
>> What were John? Unless you have good
[1:31:38] news. Do you have good news? Are they
going to stop flying over Maywood?
[1:31:41] » Or is it just the same?
>> Do they have a new button?
[1:31:44] » It's not your fault that the tanic is
annoying.
[1:31:47] » Yeah, we take it out on you. I So I'm
sorry, John. We should only take out the
[1:31:50] budget stuff on you.
>> I want you to be able to give your
[1:31:52] report. I just ask that you be, you
know, as
[1:31:56] » are quick as possible presentation.
[clears throat]
[1:31:59] [laughter]
>> Slides.
[1:32:01] » No slides.
>> Dim the lights. Um there were three
[1:32:05] three reports to um three meetings to
report on. Um normally [clears throat]
[1:32:10] it is one one every quarter. The first
was the community open forum which was
[1:32:15] which took place on March 31st. Purpose
of it was to give the public more of a
[1:32:21] voice and to give them an opportunity to
learn more about it. Surprisingly, there
[1:32:25] were 92 people that attended this online
at least. And um
[1:32:33] the actual meeting took place in the
middle of the day. Took place at 3:00,
[1:32:37] which I asked why did you do that? You
know, I I've never attended a public
[1:32:42] meeting in the middle of the day. People
are not home. Um so anyway, one of
[1:32:47] [clears throat] the interesting points
was the most cited problem was not
[1:32:51] noise. And it was something I've been
harping on for quite some time. It's the
[1:32:55] volume
>> of the planes going overhead. Yeah.
[1:32:59] » So other people are hearing the same
thing. Um
[1:33:03] there was new voices. One was from
Marstown, New Jersey talking about
[1:33:07] planes that were coming over his house
heading to Cedar Barrow. Um
[1:33:13] [clears throat]
and I asked the question beyond the 3:00
[1:33:16] meeting, why wasn't the consultant group
there? and I didn't get a positive
[1:33:21] answer on that. You think they would
have been concerned? The second meeting
[1:33:25] was the actual quarterly tanic uh
meeting which took place on April 15th.
[1:33:31] There were more um town members not
attending than attending. Again, this
[1:33:38] has been a ongoing thing. Um three of
the four FAA requests are on hold just
[1:33:45] like I reported last time. It seems like
they can't walk and chew gum at the same
[1:33:50] time. Um I asked about uh they reported
about FIFA and this the um sale [snorts]
[1:33:58] forth on the 250th anniversary. Uh they
expect a lot of extra traffic. Uh and
[1:34:05] the reason why they were preparing to
get the the runways and and all the
[1:34:10] projects done. Uh the one project that's
that wasn't done completely was the
[1:34:16] beacon relocation and the demolishing of
the uh control center. They got a new
[1:34:21] tower up there. Um,
one other interesting thing, there was
[1:34:26] one member from the public was from
Paramis
[1:34:30] and he gave forth something I've been
proposing to this committee which was
[1:34:36] there should be financial incentive to
get the pilots to use the alternate
[1:34:43] route.
And I didn't know this, but after I got
[1:34:46] the minutes, I looked him up and he was
a lawyer. And I'm thinking maybe he's,
[1:34:51] you know, looking for business. Well,
actually, he's right in line with the
[1:34:55] runway as I am. So, you know, he's
complaining about it, too. There was an
[1:35:00] executive meeting. Oh, I felt honored.
Uh May 27th,
[1:35:05] um there was barely a quorum. Um there
were only two items. They talked about
[1:35:10] uh an environmental study that's going
to be done for two new hangers that are
[1:35:15] going to be coming up. So if you had any
thoughts of this airport closing down,
[1:35:20] » I don't think people will be putting
money into it. Um
[1:35:24] there was also a talk um uh the second
item was um
[1:35:31] something we're we're not really
associated with which is the planes
[1:35:34] coming up from the south. And right now
they take a direct line as they do
[1:35:40] coming south from the north to the
south.
[1:35:45] They're changing that to do a serpentine
almost looks like the same thing that's
[1:35:50] being done with Route 4 with Route 17.
>> Uh so somebody beat me to the question,
[1:35:56] you know, aren't you just doing the same
thing and you you're driving the traffic
[1:36:01] over it turns out to be North Arlington.
Um they didn't really have a good answer
[1:36:06] for that. And and I asked about if if
there's going to be flyovers for the
[1:36:11] July 4th and for the OP sale. They said
there are only going to be four
[1:36:16] helicopters, so we shouldn't hear jets
zooming overhead. Uh, actually, there'll
[1:36:22] be jets, but they're going to be coming
from a different airport. And that's it.
[1:36:26] » Thank you very much, Mr. Brown.
>> Hey, John. I know you have like a hard
[1:36:29] time dealing with those people over
there. And and you know, I know you did
[1:36:32] your best on this, but I'm giving that
report a C minus, buddy. [laughter]
[1:36:39] » Oh, ouch.
[laughter]
[1:36:46] So next we have the introduction of
ordinances with ordinance 826.
[1:36:52] Do we have to read this whole thing? So
bond ordinance to authorize the making
[1:36:56] of various public improvements and the
acquisition of new additional or
[1:37:00] replacement equipment and machinery, new
communication and signal system
[1:37:04] equipments, new information technology
equipment and new automotive vehicles
[1:37:08] including original apparatus and
equipment in buy and for the burough
[1:37:12] Maywood County of Bergen State of New
Jersey to appropriate the sum of
[1:37:17] $2,810,000
to pay the cost thereof to appropriate
[1:37:22] various grants to make a down payment.
ment to authorize the issuance of bonds
[1:37:26] to finance such appropriations and to
provide for the issuance of bond
[1:37:30] anticipation notes in anticipation of
the issuance of such bonds.
[1:37:34] » Thank you. Uh may I get a first?
>> I'll make the motion.
[1:37:38] » Can I have a second?
>> Second.
[1:37:42] » Uh Ryan said second and uh roll call
>> on roll call. Benon,
[1:37:47] » yes.
>> Harrick,
[1:37:48] » yes.
>> Pavano,
[1:37:50] » yes.
>> Man,
[1:37:51] » yes.
>> Flynn,
[1:37:52] » yes.
>> Motion carries. Be it resolved that the
[1:37:54] above stated ordinance 8-26 was passed
and adopted or first reading and that a
[1:37:59] final hearing on set ordinance will be
heard on Tuesday, July 28, 2026 at 7
[1:38:03] p.m. or soon thereafter at which time
any person interested in said ordinance
[1:38:07] can be heard be further resolved that
the burough clerk be she hears hereby
[1:38:11] authorized to advertise in a legal
newspaper a notice of introduction and
[1:38:15] final hearing as required by law.
>> Okay. And at this time we're going to
[1:38:19] open the meeting to the public. Uh, does
any do you have anything else to say,
[1:38:23] Mr. Brown? Does anyone else have
anything to say?
[1:38:27] » I just wanted um I had meant to say this
during my quick report.
[1:38:30] » Oh, now you want to have a real report.
>> Um, I just wanted to welcome Barbara
[1:38:34] back. We
>> Oh, that's a good point. Yes. [applause]
[1:38:38] » Thank you.
[1:38:42] » Was awesome. But we did miss you a lot,
Barbara.
[1:38:46] » And we are glad to have you back in the
saddle. Thank you for uh thinking of
[1:38:51] that very very important thing, Miss
Padavana. Um so with that, I ask if we
[1:38:57] are anybody would like to make a motion
to adjurnn.
[1:39:00] » I'll make the motion.
>> Would anyone like to second?
[1:39:03] » I'll second.
>> Or we can stay here all night. All in
[1:39:05] favor? Let's go.
>> I
[1:39:09] [laughter]