1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:13,679 Good afternoon. I'm about to call this meeting to together. 2 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:19,760 At this time, Carman County Council special call meeting here at beautiful 3 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:27,480 Savannah Lakes Rec complex. At this time, I'm ask 4 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:27,480 Mr. Cook to hand off. 5 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:36,960 Let's pray. Lord, we thank you for the gathering here today. You already know 6 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,640 the purpose. Ask that I will touch hearts, minds, souls, and spirits so 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,000 that we can come together and do what's best for our county and hear our 8 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:48,320 residents and the issues that they bring before us and that we as council can do 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,200 what we can do about those issues. We thank you for the gathering. We thank 10 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:55,120 you for everyone that's here. Bless and touch all those across this county, this 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:59,120 state, and this nation. Your son's name we pray. Amen. 12 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,120 » Amen. 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:11,760 To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it 14 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:16,520 stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all 15 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Present >> Charles 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,040 » present 17 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:32,680 » David >> pres 18 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:41,040 we do have a quum at this time. We will enter our decision item which is 19 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:47,280 ordinance 256 and ordinance amending ordinance 1307 to increase the solid 20 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:51,920 waste fee to be paid to the co to the cost of the management and disposal of 21 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:59,280 solid waste generated within the car county from $80 to $100 per year. This 22 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:05,840 is council second. What do I hear? >> Second and second is excuse me. Any 23 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:11,680 further discussion? I would just mention this fee has not 24 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:16,800 been increased in many many years and majority of you folks have used the 25 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:22,319 recycling center. So that waste goes from there to a transfer station in 26 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Edill County and then from there it's loaded on tractor trailer trucks and 27 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,879 transferred to south of the Savannah River site in Aken County where 28 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:39,280 processing made sales. So, uh, there's been a huge 29 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:44,800 increase in the cost to hauling this waste those distances, but that's kind 30 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:52,640 of why we're asking for a $20 increase to cover some of that cost. So, all in 31 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:56,720 favor of the increase right hand, please carries. 32 00:02:54,640 --> 00:03:04,000 At this time, we will be entered into our town hall meeting. Uh, Mr. Coop want 33 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:09,519 to speak. you know, he never shy words, but we'll get to give you the mic in 34 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:14,480 just a second. But I will personally ask I want to introduce everyone, have 35 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:19,440 everyone introduce themselves to you folks. We don't have our name tags 36 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:25,200 tonight. Miss Barnes, I apologize for that, but we we pull this together kind 37 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:31,200 of short notice, but uh I think it's important everyone, we'll start with Mr. 38 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:35,599 uh James. He's our new administrator and he's not aware, but I'd like for him to 39 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:41,440 take about three minutes to introduce himself since he's the new guy. 40 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:46,159 I want to, you know, just been recently hired as administrator and I'm sure he 41 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,319 might have a couple words to share with you folks about how excited he is to be 42 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,319 here representing county. >> Mr. 43 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Board of Mr. We need to formally adjourn the special 44 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:12,400 call meeting before we go into the town. >> I so move that second. 45 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:17,319 » We got a first second. Any no further discussion? 46 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,319 All in favor? 47 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Now we can do the introduction. 48 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:29,960 We going to get this thing over here short. 49 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Go ahead. 50 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:38,080 » I think I have about 60 seconds left now, so I'll make this quick. I'm James 51 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Up Church. I'm excited to be your new county administrator here in McCormic 52 00:04:39,919 --> 00:04:47,120 County. Um, the last two weeks, this is day 12. The last two weeks, I've had the 53 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:52,479 opportunity to meet with all of our department heads. This past week, met 54 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:56,400 individually with our council members. And then next week, we'll be at the 55 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:00,160 state conference and after that and meeting individually with our local 56 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:04,000 community groups. So, I'm excited to be here as part of this town hall. I know 57 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,759 we have several more scheduled throughout the county over the next 58 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:11,840 couple weeks. And I'll be working with Crystal to make sure that we're 59 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:16,639 communicating as effectively as possible, sharing this video on social 60 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,600 media and online platforms to make sure those who can't attend tonight will 61 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:26,639 still have access to the meeting. I will have cards to hand out at a later time 62 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:33,720 and I forward to hearing your comments tonight, learning more about county uh 63 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:33,720 and working with you forward. 64 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:49,120 » Good evening. I am Charles representing district 4 chair. I'd like to say thank 65 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:54,479 you for for inviting us out into the town hall meeting. is great for showing 66 00:05:52,240 --> 00:06:00,120 how how he cares about the government and the government is no stronger than 67 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,120 the people that repres 68 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:16,560 the chairman of karma county and I too as Mr. says, "Want to particularly thank 69 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:22,400 the staff and administration and the residents of this great community for 70 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:26,800 allowing us to come before y'all." And typically in the past, we used to take 71 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:31,680 county council meetings on the road, but because of the technology and we're on 72 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:36,560 YouTube and those type of things, we felt it'd be best to start doing town 73 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:43,360 hall meetings uh throughout the entire county to give y'all the opportunity to 74 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:49,199 share with us your issues and concerns. And this meeting is not about county 75 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:54,319 council. You know, it's not official now that we're out of our official care of 76 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:59,039 our official business. This meeting is for y'all to ask those questions. We 77 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:04,800 might not have all the answers, but we definitely recorded it and working 78 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:09,120 together, we will resolve some of the main issues that this county faces. So, 79 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:14,880 thank each and everyone for coming out on such a hot day and just having a very 80 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:24,639 good meeting. Uh I'm looking forward to it being here with you and for you. 81 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:30,960 » Mr. Chairman, I'm very proud and happy and fortunate to be the district 3 82 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:38,000 county councilman. We may be the smallest district in terms 83 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:44,720 of total area, but based on the latest population counts, we are certainly the 84 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:49,440 most numerous. So, I'm very proud to be here. I'm very proud to represent you 85 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:54,960 and look forward to answering your questions to the best of our ability. 86 00:07:52,400 --> 00:08:00,319 Thank you. >> Jackie Brown County District 5. Echo all 87 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,560 the comments have been said before. Glad to be here. 88 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:15,199 » Definitely want to thank Mr. barns by setting this up and the technology staff 89 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:20,879 that help set the the electronics that up and don't want to forget them. So, 90 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:26,319 she does a great job for us and she I don't think she's probably got enough to 91 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:33,680 hand out tonight, but she took the time to uh give McConn County government 92 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:39,120 things to know list us administration. uh she's saying on this and please if 93 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:46,080 you're interested if you haven't signed up to get all our announcements and 94 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:51,600 alerts, please get this uh from her. Uh and it tells you step by step how to 95 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:57,360 sign up to get every one of the notices that she sends out for us. uh regular 96 00:08:54,399 --> 00:09:05,120 meetings, official call meetings, some of our board meetings, CTC and planning 97 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:10,640 and a couple others that she sends out the notices to the public. And speaking 98 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,720 of public notices has started is working very well the public part of our county 99 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:20,320 council meeting which is on the third Tuesday of each night uh not each night 100 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:25,920 but each month uh we give you the opportunity as 101 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:31,120 you come in to sign up to speak for three minutes and that's working out 102 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:36,399 real well. Uh we are just we felt the need to be a lot more transparent. We 103 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:41,440 need we need the public's involvement more. We're very excited about James 104 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:48,080 wanting to be seen more out in the public. And so uh his door is open. I 105 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:54,320 have a lot of SLB uh talent, not only SLB talent and 106 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:58,560 expertise calling me wanting to get involved in the county as an advisory 107 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:03,279 positions and those things which we'll be working on in the near future. Uh can 108 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:09,360 make things better. This is a great We're very proud to uh the process uh 109 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:16,079 the process I think we going to like I said we we did one at uh Mr. W at the 110 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Delow went real well. So tonight we're going to try doing I think uh you guys 111 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:28,079 can line up at the mic that want to ask us questions. I ask that you sort of 112 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:32,800 keep the questions brief as possible depending on how many you know how many 113 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:36,959 folks you want to ask us. We we well aware that the number one question that 114 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,760 people asked over and over again is the water situation we find ourselves in. We 115 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:47,920 don't have a lot of answers. We have some, but uh there's after we after the 116 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:53,600 meeting and the closing part, I've got a couple ideas I think that we're going to 117 00:10:50,399 --> 00:11:00,480 try to balance out and see if we can make a get some better answers than what 118 00:10:56,079 --> 00:11:04,560 we have here tonight. So, at this time, we'll start taking questions. This is 119 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:09,440 y'all's meeting. Yes, sir. I'd like for you to just 120 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,440 please say your name and give us your question. 121 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:28,600 Hello, my name is Ferrer. I'm with Clemson University. 122 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,240 » I went to the Thank you for taking me again. 123 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:41,360 » I bring to you guys a very important issue which is our farmers market 124 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:46,320 pavilion. Uh I built two farmers markets pavilion, one in Donald and one in K 125 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:51,519 Falls. I needed very little government money. It was mainly donations from 126 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:57,360 organizations and uh a few from individuals. Uh we have a need for a 127 00:11:54,560 --> 00:12:01,839 pavilion in McCord County. We started at door mill 2016. There was my first 128 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:06,320 farmers market that I opened before I started this program. I had four more 129 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:14,880 years. I retired. This is my last infrastructure project in my resume. So 130 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:20,560 we have a potential to have 80 by 40 and next to the town center exactly 131 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:26,240 where the farmers market is right now. Uh we have a chance to apply for a 132 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:32,639 $25,000 grant with the mass which is associated to get that $25,000. 133 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:38,880 The city promised us something and I'll go after other big donors and McCormic 134 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:44,959 Greenwood Greenville Greenville Columbia. So I'll be chasing all those 135 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:50,639 individuals who believe in local food. McCormic has driven our farmers market 136 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:57,040 region. So we usually have 16 vendors in McCormic and all these vendors used to 137 00:12:52,959 --> 00:13:01,920 go to Abbyville to Donalds to Donald's even to Greenwood. 138 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:07,040 McCorm became kind of like the hub of all these members because and most of 139 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:12,880 because of you guys at 7 that has been supporting us so greatly. Thank you so 140 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:17,920 very much for all your support from our farmers market. So with the chance we 141 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:22,399 have now to build a 80 by40 pavilion, we have a chance to double the amount of 142 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:29,279 vendors that we have. Just think about this. You're a vendor produce farmer and 143 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:33,839 that's hot 95 degrees F and has cultivate. You have to water plants. You 144 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,680 have to do weed. So, it's just not easy. And then you bring all the stuff to your 145 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,920 truck and then put a canopy. >> So, what's your question? 146 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:48,839 » You're supposed to be asking a question. >> This is a telephone. Do you do you have 147 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,839 a presentation that you can pass out? 148 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:58,800 » The question is, >> do I keep your support? 149 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:04,560 » Yes, sir. I think that's an honor. We have very excited presentation that you 150 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:09,199 presented to council and you go back to YouTube get all his details of what he's 151 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:12,959 trying to do. He takes a lot of pride in his work. 152 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Next person. 153 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,160 » I have a few short questions. >> Yes, sir. 154 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:37,760 » My first question is I know you rented the place on 28 and I'd like to know 155 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:42,000 what kind of progress is being made to get that open and what they're going to 156 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:47,199 be producing. You're talking about Micro Tech the 157 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,279 building that's laid shallow for five years. 158 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:55,920 » Yes, sir. If you pass I pass by there just about daily. Uh they poured the 159 00:14:53,680 --> 00:15:00,959 concrete. There's probably five trucks out there presently. They're doing the 160 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:08,880 electrical, the plumbing, uh that's those food added a German company who 161 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:13,440 signed a contract with. And so it I'm not sure 162 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,839 Have you heard any updates? >> They're supposed to be opening in 163 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,079 October. >> All right. And what are they going to be 164 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:22,079 producing? >> They're going to be producing additives 165 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:25,600 mainly for animal food. >> Okay. The other question I have is I 166 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,920 know you sold a piece of property down in Branch to a company that's going to 167 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,440 be creating a solar field. >> That's correct. 168 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:40,320 » Have they cleared the land and when do they expect to plant the solar field? 169 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:46,000 » From Mark and Tom. last update that we got is going to be probably a 3 to 5 170 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:52,880 year project to get that in place and it's all it's out way outside of parks 171 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:59,360 for prices road is paper company land that they own previously and it's a 172 00:15:56,639 --> 00:16:04,880 great location for it's not like one that you see on our highway 173 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:10,240 two secondary road 174 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:13,440 some of the land that you know where they are. We really just entered into 175 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,440 agreement. >> Okay. My third question is we get our 176 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,399 power from Little River Electric Company, 177 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,079 » right? >> It gets its power for Santi Cooper who 178 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:31,040 got together with Stana to build a nuclear power plant down south somewhere 179 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:35,920 that never opened and now has an 8.2 billion dollar debt which is going to be 180 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:41,759 paid by the rateayers. Is there any way we can get out of getting electric from 181 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:46,160 Santi Koopa or Little River Little River Electric so we don't have to pay that 182 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:54,480 bill? Um, South Carolina has a system in which 183 00:16:50,959 --> 00:17:00,880 areas of responsibility and service are assigned by the public service 184 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:06,400 commission and the area in which we reside as been assigned to the Little 185 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:12,480 River Electric Cooperative. If we were to 186 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:17,839 request being taken out from that service area of Little River, their area 187 00:17:15,679 --> 00:17:22,559 of responsibility would be so substantially reduced that their 188 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:28,400 viability with continued viability would probably be in question. So I don't I 189 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:34,160 don't think there's um there's much of a chance at all of getting a different 190 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:38,080 provider. Now having said that, there are other things that are going on 191 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:43,840 in the legislature and in the state house that may revise 192 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:48,640 that assignment system, particularly with respect to the need to 193 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:53,280 generate a lot more electric power for data centers. 194 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:58,240 Um that may change in the next couple of years, but we'll have to wait and see 195 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:03,280 what happens and see what what legislation the legislature passes. 196 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:08,559 Thank you. >> I do know from a personal friend of mine 197 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:13,039 who's actually they have reopened that project and it started by putting that 198 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:17,200 reactor back together. They're going to complete that project. Now don't ask me 199 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:23,200 how they pay for it. I hope it's not another several billions. But I do know 200 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:28,480 because of the needs for power as Mr. Cook mentioned uh that project has 201 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:32,000 started back. It was abandoned but uh they they are working 202 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:36,400 Yes, ma'am. >> Good evening. My name is Katherine 203 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:42,000 Cross. I'm SL resident. I have two questions. One, um, at some point in the 204 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:47,919 past, we've heard that there would be an engineering um, personnel in the county 205 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:53,280 to handle water runoff, grading issues for new builds. Um, here in SLV, we have 206 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:56,880 an architectural committee that used to review, but they didn't have an 207 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:02,320 engineer, so it was back to the county. Has that position been filled? 208 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:09,440 We don't have we're not trying to fill a position that I'll pass this to Mr. Up 209 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Church if he's got a data on. We get our consulting engineering firm to do that 210 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:20,400 drainage study for us. >> But what about every new house that goes 211 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:24,320 in that has to have drainage evaluation, water runoff so it doesn't go on 212 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:30,440 neighboring lots? My understanding was someone had to evaluate them for each 213 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,440 case. 214 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:41,039 The problem the problem that we have here in the village 215 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:44,960 » is that the builders didn't like the architectural 216 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:52,160 um review the ACC reviewing drained systems 217 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:57,200 in the building. So they went to court and got an injunction to stop us from 218 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:03,360 doing that. Now, the only the only thing that remains 219 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:07,200 with respect to a review of drainage for individual homes 220 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:12,720 is the issuance of a certificate of 221 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:17,039 occupancy by the county's building department, 222 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:20,559 which means that those plans have to go to the building uh department for 223 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,600 approval, and they can only disapprove those on an 224 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:30,960 extremely limited basis. Now, as most of you are aware, we have a 225 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:39,360 new development that Capital wants to build on Garden Drive. Uh that is a um I 226 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:46,480 think a 20 unit townhouse development that is large enough and impacts enough 227 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:52,799 land that that approval must go to the state. Um used to be called DK. I'm not 228 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:59,200 sure the appropriate acronym for the new organization, but has that has to be 229 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:06,960 reviewed by uh by DA. Now, if you look at some of the other legal requirements, 230 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:12,080 normally the um the review of that would be done by the planning commission 231 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:17,120 because that normally involves a reszoning of the land. In this 232 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:24,640 particular case, since all the land in the village is planned development and 233 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:29,760 since plan development already includes um townhouse development because we have 234 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:35,200 town houses in the in the village, the planning commission is uh is probably 235 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:42,840 not going to make a decision and doesn't need to make a decision on on that issue 236 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,840 because it doesn't involve in 237 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:49,679 Having said all of that, if the planning commission is not going to make a 238 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:56,559 decision, then county council is not going to make a decision. And that that 239 00:21:52,799 --> 00:22:03,120 really means that council is neither council nor the the building department 240 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:07,440 are going to have an opportunity to turn this thing down based on the drainage 241 00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:14,159 situation. And um the same applies to individual 242 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:17,600 housing units. It doesn't go to the planning commission. It doesn't go to 243 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:23,039 council. If a certificate of occupancy is issued 244 00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:25,840 by the building department, then that is sufficient and there's very little that 245 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:31,039 we can do to intervene. >> So there's nothing we can change in the 246 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,400 county council guidelines because there's people that are being not 247 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,840 myself, but there's people being impacted with new housing and water 248 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:44,000 significantly onto their property. There is a significant problem with that 249 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:50,080 throughout the county, but particularly in SLB with the amount of development 250 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:55,440 that we have going on. The amount of P properties that are being cleared, 251 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,840 we've exacerbated the drainage problem that we've never had until the last 252 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:05,200 three, four, five years. >> So, would that be something to do? 253 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:09,679 » We have discussed with the building department 254 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:14,400 opportunities that we have to to amend the existing county ordinances. If you 255 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:21,600 look at the existing county ordinances, there is a requirement in the existing 256 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:27,280 ordinances for the review of any changes that are made in the drainage of any 257 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:33,200 property in the county that exceeds three. 258 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:39,679 And that and that review that review is done by the by the 259 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:45,039 um the soil and water conservation district. Now, solar water 260 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:50,799 conservation district has insufficient staff to do that on on a a countywide 261 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:55,440 basis. If we were to change that and reassign that responsibility, for 262 00:23:52,880 --> 00:24:00,640 example, to the building department and assign that and and reduce the number of 263 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,120 acres that we're requiring down to virtually any property, then we would 264 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,520 create a problem with respective enforcement because the building 265 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:14,240 department does not have the staff in order to do that. So even though we can 266 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:19,840 change the ordinance, we also have to be aware of the impact that's going to have 267 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:23,360 on our ability to enforce it. It's not that we're going to ignore the problem, 268 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:30,240 but it's something that's going to have to be taken care of on a longer term 269 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:34,640 basis rather than simply amendment or thanks for your answer. Um my second 270 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:41,760 question was having to do with the men center wondering if it's become a 271 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:48,640 sustaining um venue. Does the incoming rental cover the monthly operational 272 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:54,240 funds and personnel or are we running a monthly deficit? And if so, what's the 273 00:24:51,440 --> 00:25:00,159 average deficit? And is there a plan to do something about it if there is a 274 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:07,200 deficit? Um, I checked other nearby venues and they charge more per rental 275 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:14,080 for three hours or four hours or per day and also have extra charges for setup 276 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:19,679 tear down or if alcohol is brought in. There's a fee for that. My daughter 277 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:23,840 works at a similar facility and um their rates are double or higher of what's 278 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,840 being charged. There is a plan that's being currently 279 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:31,440 reviewed. Staff is working on reviewing the prices 280 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:39,279 for that. We recognize that that's very low um for this area. Um as far as the 281 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:43,279 staffing, the recession was already over there. So those staff salaries were 282 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:47,600 already included in the budget. Um the rest of it, you know, we're just taking 283 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,120 it as we come until we can come to a plan to do that. The facility just 284 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:53,760 opened. It's not been done a year. So, we're working on trying to get those 285 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,960 things resolved. >> Does anybody know off the top of your 286 00:25:55,279 --> 00:26:01,919 head what the monthly deficit is and who is the county paying for that? 287 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:07,840 » Yeah, county is paying for it. It's the county building. 288 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:12,080 » Was there plans before it got built to cover the operation? 289 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,840 » There were some plans in place for that when Columbus was here. But as he's 290 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,559 gone, we're now having to revamp what we were doing previously. 291 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,320 » Who was Columbus? >> He was the county administrator. 292 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:25,559 Thank you. >> Thank you. 293 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:33,520 » Just a brief comment now. Um you mentioned the drainage. I'd like to 294 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:43,120 comment on it. Are you headed to your seat? Um many folks don't know but Mr. 295 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:52,400 Curt Smith, Mr. Cook, myself and Mr. Tomorrow we are meeting almost monthly 296 00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:58,720 uh to discuss those issues with uh with council to representatives of council 297 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:04,799 and there we are well aware of the problem that drainage is creating 298 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:12,240 amongst the the homeowners and so it is high on our part as you heard M cookie 299 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:17,760 the solution is not simple uh but we are discussing We're waiting on this study. 300 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:21,760 Hopefully, it's going to help us some. Uh, like I said, we've got our new 301 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:28,159 administrator. We're going to task him on, uh, trying to resolve some of the 302 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:32,960 issues. Like I say, um, there's a lot of lot sold that you, you know, it's going 303 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:37,840 to be a problem in the future and we don't have those answers yet, but I want 304 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:44,159 to assure y'all that we are aware of it. We are discussing it frequently 305 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:49,279 and u actually going to probably I know Mr. Smith we last time we met we 306 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:54,960 discussed a meeting with our building department and all people being impacted 307 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:59,840 calling a special meeting just to start brainstorm some solutions for that 308 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:04,480 problem drain. So know it's not glance you wanted here but we are aware of it 309 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:12,000 and we want to fix it in any way possible or make it less impact on the 310 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:17,279 Mr. Mark, >> uh Mark, before you make your comment, I 311 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:22,720 just want to uh say that one of the things this council is trying 312 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:28,480 to do is to change openness and transparency to make things more evident 313 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:34,480 and to involve our stakeholders. One of the problems that we had with the 314 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:39,440 drainage study, that was a a grant request that we made to the rural 315 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:45,279 infrastructure authority. They provided us funds to do that study. 316 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:50,559 There were strong recommendations at that time to the county administrator to 317 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:56,080 open that process up so that stakeholders could make substantial 318 00:28:52,640 --> 00:29:00,720 input into that process to identify the specific problems that arose. One of the 319 00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:05,039 reasons that we did that grant was because we knew we had significant 320 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:10,480 drainage problems in the village and we wanted to have the opportunity to make 321 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:16,960 input to that study. Unfortunately, uh the decision was made to award that 322 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:23,760 study to our contract engineers. There was no input by stakeholders and as a 323 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:27,520 result uh we have we have not seen the final product although I understand that 324 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:32,399 it's going to be discussed at the next council meeting and I'm looking forward 325 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:37,760 to doing that. But what we're trying to do is to change all of the processes 326 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:42,080 that are involved so that we make sure we have the opportunity to do something 327 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:46,559 and we get full input from our stakeholders so the problems can be 328 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,559 identified as well as potential solutions. 329 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:58,320 » Okay, Mark, change gears on a little bit. Um, we went through reassessment. 330 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,320 What I would say is probably the highest point. 331 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,880 » So, we we just went through reassessment I understand this probably isn't 332 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,880 something 333 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:20,080 but I I contend that we reassess at a point 334 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:26,000 in time real estate was at its highest and it's already come down sales 335 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:31,919 even in the village construction slowed down 336 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:36,520 our labor just sold at considerably less than what the house was worth 337 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,360 ass. 338 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,520 » Yes. >> One of the things about reassessment is 339 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,760 determined by state. The county has no control over when that happens. And 340 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:10,000 every resident has the right to go to the assessor and make their case for why 341 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:15,120 they believe that whatever their assessment is is not correct. And 342 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:19,360 there's a board that meets um to review those things. So don't say that there's 343 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:24,559 not you don't have any hope of it not happening. It could happen but you have 344 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:30,000 to go through the process to do that. >> And I will comment to the one thing that 345 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:35,840 most people if if you live in McCormack County and you're a resident of SO is 346 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:42,399 your primary residence your assessment cannot increase over 15% over a 5year 347 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:50,080 period. It goes up by about 3 years. So 388 protects us. So the person buying 348 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:55,440 the new house next to you at the the higher rates can his taxes could 349 00:31:52,880 --> 00:32:00,720 possibly be double what yours is because you're locked in whatever you purchase 350 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:06,240 your house from. you know, every five years where we do reassessment, there is 351 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:11,760 that cap that you cannot go over. And if you feel that's like Miss Brown said, if 352 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:16,640 that's still unfair, it's too high from when you initially, you know, bought 353 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:21,919 your house, whatever, appeal it. Uh he's he works very good. Uh he doesn't like 354 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,720 for it to go to the appeals board. He'd rather resolve it amongst uh you know, 355 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:30,799 amongst the residents. He's been working with us quite some 356 00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:37,600 times and does a good job. We only have just a very few, not even a handful that 357 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:41,600 go all the way to the to the board. So, please remember to take that into 358 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:46,480 consideration. Yes, sir. >> Let me just let me just add to that that 359 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:54,159 although act 388 2006, which uh mandates the five-year 360 00:32:50,320 --> 00:33:00,159 review and puts a cap on the amount that uh a house 361 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:06,880 can be reassessed upwards 15%. There is no limitation with respect to a change 362 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:13,039 in the assessment of a property at the point of sale. So that when that that 363 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:18,080 property is when that property is sold, if it is sold for considerably less than 364 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:24,640 the assessment, that sale price will go into the calculations in determining the 365 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:29,440 next five-year assessment. So as those If if the values of those properties 366 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:35,919 drop over that period of time, that'll take that that will eventually not 367 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:40,000 immediately but eventually uh impact the market. The other thing I might add is 368 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:45,440 that with the uh re with the reassessments being higher, 369 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:54,080 there is a roll back that is involved in that under law, which means that total 370 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:59,919 property tax collections in the county may not increase as a 371 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:05,120 result of the reassessments. So when when you take that into 372 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:10,399 consideration, that means that for most individual taxpayers who are not 373 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:16,560 impacted by point of sale, their taxes are probably not going to increase 374 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:21,839 substantially if at all. In succeeding years, even though that those property 375 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:30,480 reassessments are higher, county is limited by act 388 to the 376 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:38,480 amount of increases in tax levies that it can implement based on increases in 377 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:45,359 the cost of living uh the u the CPI and in the growth of the population. So even 378 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:51,119 though your assessments may be um um inaccurate or high. It's It's really not 379 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,119 going to affect your property tax, is it? 380 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,960 » Next question. 381 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,640 » Hi, my name is Paula Golden. I want to thank you for coming here. I really 382 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:15,280 appreciate you taking your time and effort to 383 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:19,280 they heard me say that. Um, I uh want to know if there's possibility of getting 384 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:23,760 glass recycling. We do such wonderful recycling here, 385 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:30,760 but I have to take my glass to Georgia to get recycled and I would like to see 386 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,760 us have recycling. 387 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:45,359 So that's a great question. That is a tough tough because there's no market 388 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:50,119 for recycling. You can't find anyone can be buying 389 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,920 ahead. 390 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:16,640 » Okay. recycling at Tri County is looking into all aspect 391 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:20,440 trying to find a market to be able to take on recycling 392 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:31,000 if it was tough. At one time no problem we had 393 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,000 trying to protect anything 394 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,560 but now trying to take a lot of our 395 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,520 So that's why I never 396 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:11,200 my comment serving on the board at Tri County. Uh the cost to to deal with the 397 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:17,440 glass and know where to put it. It presents a major cost to us. I know my 398 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:22,880 environmental friends and many of you are that here it's still where does it 399 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:28,560 end up? You know, hopefully not in the lake. I'm constantly picking up balls 400 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:33,119 around my shoreline. Sometimes it really just disturbs me what people might be 401 00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:38,640 doing with this glass if we don't do something with it. But, uh, Mr. 402 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:42,839 I can continue to address that issue at our tri county board meetings. 403 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:54,640 » Trad get more expensive every day. 404 00:37:50,160 --> 00:38:01,760 » You're going to pay more because a sale that going to be built down the tree 405 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:06,839 road. You talking about 28 million for mankind. 406 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,839 as well 407 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:16,000 to be make sure don't get back 408 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:23,320 to the ladies to drink water. So that taking care all that made so expensive 409 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,320 because 410 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:31,680 to then it had to be transferred over to Johnson 411 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:37,200 from Johnson another 49 412 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:42,480 That's just how it is. When we get down there, that's when they have to be 413 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,960 putting these very very 414 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,000 cause 415 00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:02,839 to go up to come down here not the kind 416 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,920 of moment we want to do what the law 417 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,839 Next person. 418 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,079 » We're old friends. >> Regular. You regular. That's fine. Thank 419 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:43,680 you. >> Hi, my name is Randy Fos. 420 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:48,000 I live at 305 Green View Court. Over a year ago, I started attending 421 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:54,880 county council meetings and since that time, I've met with individual council 422 00:39:49,599 --> 00:40:00,240 members first minute, CBW, and CWS to better understand the water quality 423 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:05,119 and pressure issues in SLB. Not to mention the information on the web 424 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:10,000 concerning Calvin Falls. After gathering information and then 425 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:15,040 submitting a list of questions to CWS, the county council over the last two 426 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,920 weeks, they were responded to this morning. 427 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,200 It has become apparent the infrastructure in SLV has been taken for 428 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:28,800 granted over the years. Council has known of the water pressure 429 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:33,280 problem since the discussion of where a water tower has been placed for six 430 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,200 years. The recent engineering study by Thomas 431 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,200 and Hutton identifies approximately 20 million in 432 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:46,000 projects which include the water tower for sob 433 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:52,680 and the surrounding area. A resident of SOV did a recent water 434 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,680 pressure monitoring study 435 00:40:53,440 --> 00:41:02,800 over 20 hours on his property and showed that the water pressure was 436 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:08,160 in half with at 7:00 in the morning and another time during the day. I wonder 437 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:11,160 why. You've been watching what section is 438 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:19,760 » Magnolia. >> Right down the road from Chuck, by the 439 00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:24,720 way. >> And what's interesting, I went out 440 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:30,960 yesterday morning. I turned my sprinklers on at 7:00 and I live a mile 441 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:36,640 away. My sprinklers wouldn't work either. 442 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,640 » We got a problem. 443 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:48,079 If we can't water our lawn, there probably isn't enough water at 7:00 in 444 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:51,680 the morning to put out a fire. Okay. 445 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:56,319 So, are we going to schedule when we're going to have fires? 446 00:41:53,839 --> 00:42:00,560 Can't do that. I won't spend time going through all the 447 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:07,720 responses to the questions asked except one which was it's too soon to put 448 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,720 together a plan. 449 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:16,400 » It's been six years. Council's had six years and a plan 450 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:22,720 begins when a goal is identified and is a living document. 451 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:28,160 Right? We have a goal clean water and water pressure. 452 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:32,720 There should be a plan with milestones assigned tasks to individuals including 453 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:37,280 completion dates which all residents of a county can see so we can monitor the 454 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:42,119 progress and I think that's where our new 455 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:42,119 administrator 456 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:50,000 some of the task may include residents of SLB 457 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:55,200 but we got to go lobby the federal government the state 458 00:42:52,240 --> 00:43:00,960 government and go raise Well, we got lots of people 459 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:05,480 with a lot of experience and I'm an sales guy. I love talking. 460 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:15,839 The council needs to become transparent and overcommunicate. 461 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:20,720 There's that transparency word, Chuck. Transparent 462 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:25,520 to the residents of sob. There have been 600 homes added to the water system 463 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:31,119 since the discussions on the water tower began and we can't wait another six 464 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:34,800 years. So what's the plan? Which is what I 465 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:39,119 asked you guys about a year ago in presentation. 466 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:44,640 » Five times. >> Thank you. Waiting on the answer. 467 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:49,920 That is that is the question I've been expecting basically all night and 468 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:56,240 particularly with the situation that we have in C Falls and I know uh and I 469 00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:02,160 think talking with our new administrator and with our my colleagues 470 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:08,079 uh you mentioned plan to me my number one concern or our number one concern is 471 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:14,240 a contingency plan on what happens if we have immediate failure of Catherine fall 472 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:19,760 water supply. That's critical. I know the pressures, all this stuff part of 473 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:25,200 that study that's been do another one of those times conducting studies that 474 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:31,839 we're paying for that I'm anxiously waiting on the results. Uh but I feel 475 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:38,560 that we need to call a immediate board meeting uh with CPW and find out exactly 476 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,560 what they can and can't do to support us in the future. 477 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:47,920 some of their representatives here. They'll be involved. Council will be 478 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:53,760 involved. Uh we need to get in a room and come up with that plan. If if things 479 00:44:50,800 --> 00:45:01,280 really go a lot worse in K Falls and they could well, you know, I only update 480 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:07,280 I get is on YouTube or TV and it sounds like most everyone's quit out there and 481 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:13,920 so I think I'm going ask Mr. Up Church. He hadn't asked him yet, but We need to 482 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:20,480 also include Avenue because we have signed on know we started making our 483 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:25,040 almost $40,000 a month payments directly to them because the money was 484 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:31,200 disappeared in Cal Falls. So they they are a key player. Uh we need a plan for 485 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:36,800 them what they plan to do with whatever our legislators. We're meeting with them 486 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,720 real soon. Uh we continue to ask them what's going to everybody's just kind of 487 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:45,520 running around circles and we're not coming up with that plan. I think that 488 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:49,440 to me right now is the most critical thing that we need to put together. It's 489 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:55,200 what happens. uh if for some reason everyone walks off 490 00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:01,280 the job and the line blows out and we have no water coming you know from 491 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:08,880 because the way we're set up now we depend on both CPW and C 492 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:14,640 was really distribution falls and a lot of you folks don't know but we do have 493 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:20,560 we do buy some water from Columbia County on the south end of plantation so 494 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:25,280 you Is that an option to get water? We we need to look at options finding 495 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:31,839 emergency water supplies from other places and not depend on 496 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:38,000 fall between those and to disray. So that's kind of my answer. It's not a 497 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:42,800 very good answer, but we going to work. James, you want to comment on it? 498 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,240 » I think since I've been here, the biggest thing that we need is a plan, 499 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,680 not just for water, but for many other services that we provide. So, we're 500 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:53,760 going to get together with those who provide us water and also those who pay 501 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,880 also to provide us water that aren't currently. Um, but then we also need to 502 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,400 plan out how we're going to pay for it. It's great if we have a $20 million plan 503 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,240 for water, but we have to all get together and and find the funding. And 504 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,400 so, my commitment is we're going to put together a plan. I feel like every day I 505 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:12,640 have a council member walk in my office and talk about what we're going to do 506 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:16,079 with water. Um, some of the water issues right now are out of our control. So, we 507 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:22,520 need to take control of our situation, figure out how to That's my favorite. 508 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:22,520 » Thank you. 509 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,640 » The issue, this is a this is a very complex issue 510 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:36,720 and I'm I'm not going to try to simplify. Obviously, this is one of the 511 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:40,960 the most serious problems that we have in the county and particularly in SLE. 512 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:46,560 If we're going to continue to be able to market properties here effectively, 513 00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:52,079 we need to have good quality water and we need to have adequate pressure in 514 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:57,760 order to use that water for the purposes for which it's intended. We know 515 00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:03,920 based on anecdotal evidence, people bring their 516 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:08,800 their water filters to county council that we have water quality issues, 517 00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:12,480 particularly Senate. But 518 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:15,839 it's not that we're not doing anything. It's not that we're not talking to 519 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:20,400 anybody. We are 520 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:24,400 uh we're talking to a lot of people there. and that there's 521 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:30,000 » there are the voters if you have if you haven't seen them. 522 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:35,440 » Um but there are there are legal issues that are when we asked the question with 523 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:40,559 respect to some of the legal issues um as to whether or not we can cancel 524 00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:50,240 our contract with Abbyville and Calvin Falls. 525 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:55,839 Um we probably can based on the uh the clauses that are in the current contract 526 00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:01,040 based solely on water quality. But there are other legal issues that are 527 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:07,920 involved. Uh if you didn't know, we have money in the bank 528 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:14,960 that we have to we have to maintain in order to to assure the loans that 529 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:19,839 were taken out by Calhoun Falls to build their water treatment plant. 530 00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:24,160 and we are the assurityity for those loans. 531 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:31,760 So if we cancel our contract with Khoon Falls and they are unable to make their 532 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:36,960 loan payments to USDA for that, how how how is that going to impact us 533 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,400 from a financial standpoint? Are we going to have to make an outlay? Do we 534 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:46,559 have to buy our way out of that contract? Uh in terms of sharing there 535 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:52,160 are technical issues, serious technical issues that are involved in terms of 536 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:58,160 finding an alternate source for the water 537 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:03,040 um capacity, water pressure, we talk about an SLV water tower and 538 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:08,240 where it's going to be located. Um if we do all of the things that are 539 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:14,640 required, and I've had conversations with Cheryl Daniels and other staff at 540 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:20,720 CPW, they are perfectly capable of supplying water to the entire county. 541 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:24,720 » Now, to do that, they have to put on an additional they 542 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:29,520 have to put on add an additional shift, which means they have to go out and 543 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:36,319 recruit uh some very scarce technicians uh which would create a problem. They 544 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:43,839 would they they the their information is we would have to build a 1 milliongalon 545 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:48,319 capacity water tower at a place in the village 546 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:53,040 that would be able to supply water pressure to the entire northwest 547 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,240 quadrant of the county. It's not just SLV. 548 00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:00,559 » You've got to you got to supply all the way to Mount Carmel 549 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:08,559 » in the Abbyville County line. That's going to take a lot of pressure not just 550 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:14,720 for ISA SLB but for for everybody else. Um we need to have 551 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:21,040 um engineering studies done with respect to the size and location of the water. 552 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:26,000 If CPW is going to supply that water and fill that water tower 553 00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:31,760 um are those mains sufficient in order for them to do that and we need an 554 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:37,119 engineering study. We don't know and we don't know the cost if we have to make 555 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:43,040 infrastructure improvements to do that. There are obvious financial issues. I've 556 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:47,760 had discussions with a number of people um our legislative delegation and uh and 557 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,880 Billy Garrett who's been very instrumental in getting even though he's 558 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:56,880 no longer on the legislative delegation he's been very instrumental in getting 559 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:02,559 money for us through the legislature. Billy's recommendation 560 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:07,040 in terms of funding is that we do a special tax district. 561 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,880 Now, my response to Billy was, well, if you 562 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,880 do a special tax district, that's probably going to require referendum. 563 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:20,400 Now, what do you think the the the chances are that SLB is going to pass 564 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:26,240 another special tax district to be taxed for that? And even if they do, 565 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,640 there's no guarantee that we could get this for within the 8% constitutional 566 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:37,440 limit. So we might have to do another referendum in order to get the the money 567 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:42,559 through a special tax district. So we're looking at a variety of sources. For 568 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:49,359 example, RAIA, we could get a $ 1.5 million grant, which would probably fund 569 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:55,839 about 20% or less of what we need for that project. 570 00:52:51,119 --> 00:53:02,079 Um, we could get a loan through USDA, but uh, right now the rural development 571 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:06,319 loan program through USDA is in the process of being zeroed out. So, we 572 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:12,079 don't know whether those funds would go to that. We could go to the legislature 573 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:19,200 and try to get money through a proviso. Uh but during the last budget cycle uh 574 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:25,200 the uh the legislature zeroed out essentially all the provisor. 575 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:32,160 So when we look at financing to do an alternate plan, we're not sure how how 576 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:37,599 that's how that's going to happen. Um there are organizational issues. If we 577 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,839 ban with CPW >> in order to provide water for the entire 578 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:47,839 county, that would mean that uh the vast 579 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:53,280 majority of their customers are not going to have representation on the CPW 580 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:58,800 board of directors. Now, there have been bills introduced in the legislature in 581 00:53:55,359 --> 00:54:04,240 the past that would enable municipal CPWs to have repres 582 00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:07,440 from all of their customers, including customers who are not within the 583 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:13,680 municipality. I have asked the legislative delegation 584 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:18,480 to look into that and to make some progress in terms of getting a bill 585 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:23,359 reintroduced that would provide some representation to the county. And that's 586 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:28,640 easier said than done. Even if we provide the opportunity to do that, we 587 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:33,599 still need uh approval from the town of Corman in order to expand that uh that 588 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:37,359 representation. So, we've got organizational issues. 589 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:42,800 We've also got project planning and management issues. If we're going to go 590 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:46,960 into partnership with CPW and the town of McCormick, then we need 591 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:53,599 to work out a protocol with respect to who's going to do what and where. 592 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:57,680 Um, so there are a number of issues. We have raised these questions and we are 593 00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:04,240 working on trying to get answers to them. But before we can develop a firm 594 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:09,680 plan in terms of alternative sources of water, what we need to do, what how we 595 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,920 need to reorganize, how we need to obtain funding, how we need to obtain 596 00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:19,440 the engineering expertise that is required to do all of that. It's going 597 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:26,079 to take a little bit of time. Miss Cook and just as a comment, he 598 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:30,880 keeps mentioning CPW and he's been the one meeting with CPW. If you heard me 599 00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:38,720 mention earlier, we have all got to get in a room together. Uh cuz to hear from 600 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:44,319 them what they can or can't do. Uh and putting all our eggs in one basket uh 601 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:49,760 could also create a problem for the future far as water supplies. So, I'm 602 00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:55,440 going to lean more toward alternate supplies. Uh, it's been brought to one 603 00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,720 person that's very familiar with our water system. He mentioned Greenwood. 604 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:06,799 Uh, we'd be glad to service us. It's all downhill. Our pressures would be great. 605 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:11,760 So, those type things is what we have got to come together as a group and come 606 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:17,040 up with a plan. Individually, we can't answer all these questions and I this is 607 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:22,079 not the place to try to But that's why I think it's so important 608 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:27,280 uh as the leadership of this county that we come together with these groups 609 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:32,240 Aville included. Uh we probably won't get anyone from C Falls and that's fine. 610 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:37,280 We met with them before and basically not anything. So those are our 611 00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:46,240 suppliers. the option was probably me Lincoln 612 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:50,559 County would be quicker, cheaper, uh far as doing, 613 00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:54,799 you know, depending solely on city. That's just my comment. We're not going 614 00:56:52,160 --> 00:57:00,640 to get into that discussion tonight, but we are definitely seriously 615 00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:06,079 going to address it shortly as we talk. Mr. church up church knows that that's 616 00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:10,799 probably his largest sale starting out shoot and we're excited about what he's 617 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:16,079 going to bring and we're going to get you some lot better answers so you can 618 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,280 bring us a clean filter every month versus 619 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:24,240 » I'd love to s 620 00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:28,480 » this Hutton study 621 00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:34,720 » how much we pay for it >> the is that which study is it 622 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:39,200 That's the one that um McCorman County water capacity update December 16th, 623 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:43,920 2024. >> How much do we pay for this? 624 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:49,040 » We can get the amount. Yeah, I can't recall. I know 625 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:54,280 I know our water director's here. Can you answer that question right off the 626 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,280 bat without 627 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,000 » Right. You did that presentation. 628 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:15,599 and he's asking, "Do we know the amount that we could I as I asked Mr. Up Church 629 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:19,440 just yesterday that I wanted some numbers on how much money we pay these 630 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,599 folks for these days." >> Yeah. 631 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,599 » And so we're going to get you some answers because I think it's very 632 00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:28,400 important accountability and transparency that we haven't been 633 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,760 perceived, >> right? 634 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:39,200 We're on the right track. This continue trust. I don't like being a politician 635 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:41,520 saying trust me. That's not a good word. >> But uh 636 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,920 » that's what people in Washington >> I know say it all the time. So that's 637 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:50,720 why I hesitated, but we want to resolve this. We want you folks to know what's 638 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:54,720 going as much as we want to know what's going on 639 00:58:52,079 --> 00:59:00,160 » cuz we y'all hold us accountable. So that's why we here today. We going to 640 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:05,040 continue to do this. Please continue to come before council. If you want to come 641 00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:10,880 every month and sign up, please do because squeaky wheel gets 642 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:17,119 » pretty. I know you do. And we and you're making you you're getting attention and 643 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:22,000 we here we're recording and we're going to we're going to work through this. 644 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:26,319 » Yeah. Because the frustration >> that we're all having here. I'm saying, 645 00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:29,200 but it could be a lot worse and that's what need 646 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:34,559 » it's going to get worse. We have people that came from Colorado that live in s 647 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,680 and said this is how we started in Colorado. 648 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:44,880 » I understand but my concern is that we do have drinking water uh is is highest 649 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:51,119 on the list to work out this issue if we have a failure of the cow falls water 650 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:54,079 system. And so that's >> has been a problem for over six years. 651 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:58,319 » I'm safe. >> And maybe we should stop building new 652 00:59:56,559 --> 01:00:02,200 homes. >> We don't want to do that. 653 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:11,359 » Stop building. >> All right. Thank you. 654 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:14,640 » Uh hold one sec. Just one thing. When we talk about water 655 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:20,799 pressure, of course, some of that is predicated too on how much is used, how 656 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:25,040 many homes are on on the sle what's on the cold the sack all of those things 657 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:29,359 contribute to low water pressure as well so council is well aware of that and as 658 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:33,839 Mr. H state that we are looking at how we can resolve those issues. As far as 659 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,920 the studies for Thomas and Hutton, part of those studies were paid for with the 660 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:43,960 grant. I know they didn't come out extra county money, but uh we'll get the 661 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:43,960 information for you and get closer. 662 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,640 » Yes, sir. >> We're good to go. All right. My name's 663 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:55,920 my name's Wes Nim and I'm in Shannidoa. So, you know, I got the water issues 664 01:00:53,119 --> 01:01:02,160 every day as well. At the last county council meeting, it was mentioned that 665 01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:08,040 there might be restrictors put in our water lines. Has that been investigated? 666 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,599 » And survey says 667 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,680 » yes. So we're going to get Rico to answer that. The question the answer is 668 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:22,160 we have investigated that three of those I believe have been removed at this 669 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:30,599 point. Um I believe there's possibly one left but it's not in the area in 670 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,599 But can you confirm or deny? 671 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,440 » Can you speak up? This is water. 672 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:46,880 » Hey there, I'm Drew Langston. I work with um so we did some field 673 01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:51,599 investigation on those four pressure reducing valves. And just for everyone's 674 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:56,640 information, pressure reducing pressure reducing valves are put in lines to 675 01:01:54,559 --> 01:02:01,599 protect against excessive pressure that may cause blowouts in the distribution 676 01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:05,040 system. So at one point the engineer designed the system and said hey there 677 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:11,040 needs to be pressure reducing valves here. Um we went and looked back at some 678 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:16,799 of the maps that the the county maintains and three of those four have 679 01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:24,400 been removed. There is one still in service and it is in the Martin Drive 680 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:28,319 area. Um, so we can if someone is experiencing low pressure on Martin 681 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:33,200 Drive, we're happy to continue to investigate that. But we we did confirm 682 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:37,680 on the maps as well as we did some field investigation back up that those 683 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:40,920 pressure reducing guys are no longer in the system. 684 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:48,160 » All right. So, I got a question for Jackie. At the first town hall meeting 685 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:52,480 we had, >> I talked about you. You know, you have 686 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:56,000 to go in for There's a lot of people talking about 687 01:02:54,319 --> 01:02:59,680 me, >> but you spearheaded putting together a 688 01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:04,559 correspondence. >> I spearheaded putting together addresses 689 01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:08,079 and information, not a letter. >> We did not say we would do a letter. We 690 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:12,480 said you guys to write about what your issues were to those guys. 691 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,599 » Interesting. But that's not what we >> That's not what you understood. 692 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:20,640 » Well, not the two other people involved in this 693 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:25,839 conversation. So, what can we get done? Here's the deal. We're trying to get 694 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:32,640 together some type of a letter to send to our state officials, 695 01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:38,319 governors, uh, state reps, whatever. Tell them what's going on down here with 696 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:44,000 the infrastructure issues and invite them to come down here and 697 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:48,720 look at it because I spent 10 minutes on the web looking at grants. 698 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:56,640 There is insane amount of still out there. Billions of dollars available for 699 01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:02,799 streets, roads, water, infrastructure, cell phones, schools, fire departments, 700 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:07,920 EMS, plus a ton more. When I asked at one of the county council meetings if 701 01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:15,280 anyone was actively researching us, I was told no. Okay, so one of the deals 702 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:20,480 here is maybe we can get somebody to help us write a letter and then talking 703 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:26,400 to Kirk. It's going to go out on the link and we're just going to start a 704 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:31,839 campaign and emailing all of our elected officials and tell them here's what's 705 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:36,400 going on. Come down here for yourselves. We got midterm elections coming up in 706 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,960 about 15 months, >> you know, and it's like, hey, take care 707 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:48,880 of us. Help us out. At least give us some ideas. Do something for us. So, we 708 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:53,119 need someone to write that letter. I But maybe somebody out here has a 709 01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:58,079 background in writing something like that to a politician or a group of 710 01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:04,400 politicians and asking them, "Hey, here's what's 711 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:09,359 going on. What can you do for us?" All right. So, Jackie, that explains why 712 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:17,680 you've never replied so much in emails. >> All right, Bernie, your turn. 713 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:24,799 I did want to add to that comment that Mr. Brown submitted. Uh Daniels Daniels 714 01:05:21,359 --> 01:05:31,119 says Dixon is our house rep not far down the road toward Greenwood has done an 715 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:35,520 excellent excellent job being our voice for this little county which he 716 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:39,440 represents. He's brought what three or four years ago sheriff I noticed our 717 01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:46,559 sheriff who showed up. Appreciate you coming tonight. Uh he brought us about 718 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:51,280 $500,000 for new vehicles. Uh so uh great guy. Give him a call. He didn't 719 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:57,359 have to have a letter. It works. You blow his phone up. That's And then our 720 01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:03,039 other representative that's uh highly senior is Senator Massie uh in 721 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:07,839 Edgeville. Call when they're out of session, blow the phones up. You know, 722 01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:12,640 that's what we do. Every time we see them, we hit them up. But if it's just 723 01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:17,440 us, you know, we just kind of like a little squeaky wheel that we need some 724 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:22,000 louder squeaks. So I I just recommend each and every person not only do the 725 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:26,240 letter, that's a great idea, but a personal call goes a long way with 726 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:31,359 someone particularly that might be coming up for reelection. But uh he's 727 01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:36,160 very sincere. He's not your typical everyday politician. 728 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:39,119 » Okay, that's great. I still think no I still think we need to get as many 729 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:43,599 people involved as we can >> and the letter 730 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:48,000 email call call. >> Okay. We've got a lot of people living 731 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:53,359 here and if we even get a third of the folks at the village to contact them 732 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:58,319 once I think they will take notice. >> Yes sir. That's how it works. 733 01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:01,359 » So can we work with you guys and maybe a couple folks here at SLB to put this 734 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,720 thing together? >> Yes sir. 735 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,440 » Is that possible? >> Yes sir. Okay, 736 01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:12,599 » one of your representatives. He needs some assignments. 737 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,599 » Oh, there's 738 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:19,359 » I'm getting on on the new another new guy. I got the new guys down on this 739 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,319 season. So, yeah. >> Okay. So, kind of along the same lines, 740 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:27,440 you and I have had a discussion or two about focus groups. 741 01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:32,160 » Yes, sir. >> We've got a wealth of information with 742 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:36,960 people that live here. fantastic backgrounds, infrastructure, 743 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:42,240 grants, road repair, small business development, 744 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:46,880 tourism. We've got one of the best areas to bring 745 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:52,720 people in as tourists to spend their money here. Fishing, honey, whatever. We 746 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:56,960 got a dor fishing complex sitting there empty most of the time. We should be 747 01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:02,400 beating that thing up with competitions all the time. Amen. 748 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:07,119 when the airport gets built, you know, fly and fish. It may not take off the 749 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:13,200 first year or two, >> but the word's going to get out. 750 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:18,239 » Okay. So, we need to get these focus groups going. So, I've asked you, I sent 751 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:21,920 you an email. I've never heard back. Have you done anything along these lines 752 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,839 to get this? >> Mr. Church, could you take that for me, 753 01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:28,560 please? What was our discussion yesterday? 754 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:32,400 » Why does the new guy get over? because I've been waiting on him because I 755 01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:35,920 couldn't deal with our former governor until I got a good administrator and 756 01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:40,000 that's why we >> So, you've 757 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:43,920 talked about this several times since I've got here. There are some committees 758 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:50,239 that were talking about creating some formal, some informal. Um, my before I 759 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:53,440 came here, I worked some in tourism. My background is in economic development 760 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:57,759 and so some of those things that you mentioned are items I already have on my 761 01:08:55,199 --> 01:09:01,600 list. I work with Mr. and the rest of the council that put those groups 762 01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:05,279 together. Um, you all have lived here and been involved longer than I have and 763 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:08,480 so I'm going to rely on you and the information you provide. I've already 764 01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:11,600 been told that you all have a wealth of knowledge and we want to make sure we 765 01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:15,759 put all of you together in one room and figure out a way forward. So, Mr. Hamby 766 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:19,520 has been talking about that extensively. We need to figure out exactly what that 767 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,040 role would be, who those people were going to be, and then how to assign 768 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:27,520 them. So, that Mr. Hy has been talking about that and we will get together. 769 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:33,480 » Do you have a time frame? I don't want to give you a time frame 770 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,480 because here two weeks 771 01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:40,640 before we think about that and I won't go into too much detail in it tonight 772 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,080 but um there will be a tourism committee that will be put together. We have some 773 01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:48,239 funds that have been coming in to create a tourism committee and money that can 774 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:52,159 be spent that has to be spent for advertising, marketing, other things. 775 01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:55,760 So, your representatives will be appointing someone to serve on that 776 01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:59,239 committee and we can expand that informal matter. 777 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:06,800 » I don't know Jack about it, but if you need another pair of hands, I'm there. 778 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:13,199 Okay. All right. So, finally, everybody that's here, this 779 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:17,520 was an a turnout. I was expecting a lot more. 780 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:22,480 A lot more. But do you know we have a county council meeting 781 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:27,920 the third >> Tuesday of every month. 782 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:33,440 » You need to come to us because this is where these guys here from YouTube. It's 783 01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:39,920 a different format completely, but it's nice to stand up and heard. I 784 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:46,640 mean, we are elected paid off sitting here and bring stuff to their attention. 785 01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:51,440 let them know what the heck is going on because I tell you, griping to your 786 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:56,400 neighbor ain't going to get it. Okay? And man, people know I'm on one of the 787 01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:01,840 committees here. They stop me on the street when I'm walking my dogs and 788 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:09,280 start bending my ear. Great. Go to the council meeting. Bend their ears. Okay. 789 01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:14,800 All righty. So, again, I invite you all to go there. So, really, I mean, the 790 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:20,080 goal, my goal, and all your goals. Make this a much I mean it's a great place to 791 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:25,040 live now. We can make it even better. And maybe if we can bring a little more 792 01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:32,080 business to downtown McCormick, pull McCormic out of that where they are 793 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:37,520 basically listed as being depressed. You know, there's a 25% 794 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:42,320 poverty level right down the street in the sun. Wouldn't it be nice to pull 795 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:46,960 that out? So, anything you can do to help, get 796 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:51,760 involved. That's all I can say is get involved. Thank you so much. 797 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:58,000 » I do have a comment for you also about the talent that's performing tonight and 798 01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:03,360 particularly in this community. Uh it's just no words to describe what is 799 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:08,719 available. People I get calls all the time. I'm sure my colleagues do want you 800 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:14,400 folks wanting to get involved, wanting to make Carmen County a better place in 801 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:21,199 which to live. And so that's why we are going to focus uh on these groups. So we 802 01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:25,600 haven't decided. I really personally don't want to set nominate a bunch of 803 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:29,920 boards where we have to vote and do that. But this advisory kind of thing 804 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:35,120 where you would a group of people that are chosen would meet with whoever the 805 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:40,400 different groups that we put together. Uh they're very excited about using the 806 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:46,239 potential that exists here. And I want to go a step further and mention it's 807 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:52,159 not only SLB uh Modoc Shores where I live. You never 808 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:57,360 hear me mention it, but there is some brilliant, brilliant uh business folks 809 01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:03,040 down there. If you've never been through our own little community, you'll be 810 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:09,199 amazed. and his plantation and other other things with him. There's 811 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:16,159 a lot of lot of talent even throughout the county there's a lot of experience 812 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:21,520 particularly sewer I there's some people that know have had a lot of experience 813 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:26,800 with and so those are the people we've got to reach out to get involved 814 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:33,760 uh the comments you mentioned about coming to our meeting is very important 815 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:39,520 enough enough. We want to hear from y'all. We want to work together because 816 01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:46,080 I totally agree. Dropped in around the village a couple days ago. They were 817 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:50,800 talking about the priority should be of the business and I agree. I said this 818 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,520 economic one of our most important economic ven 819 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:07,360 county everywhere I go someone ask where you from I don't say I'm from shores I 820 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:15,600 say I'm from county and y'all are from county we we proud to have those folks 821 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:19,600 here what y'all brought in the father that's what I want mentioned, you 822 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:24,800 mentioned the dorm boat at the city. The most impressive thing that I witnessed 823 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:29,760 this summer, I've got the flyer here. Two volunteers, I want to recognize them 824 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:37,679 tonight, is Karen Love and Dan Hil put together on 825 01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:43,520 their own to cast for kids. And I showed up just by accident to that fishing 826 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:49,679 event. And I was getting calls every time I mention what I saw as people as 827 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:53,920 little kids, handicapped kids, some of them severely handicapped, getting so 828 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:59,120 excited about getting a little fishing rod in the tackle box and going fishing. 829 01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:03,520 And then I know I think the power squadron. I don't even know who all 830 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:09,120 think. There's a ton of volunteers. We had about 20 kids, but I want to have 40 831 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:16,400 or 50 kids like that fishing next year at that event. Uh you mentioned at Nor 832 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:23,520 facilities we just requested uh uh new lighting uh LED lighting. Uh we do we 833 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:28,400 got a lot of plans to improve that place has been neglected for quite some time. 834 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:34,080 That is a gold mine and the potential is there. But there's where just us as a 835 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:39,280 decision making group. We can't do all this. We've got to have you folks. And 836 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:45,120 I'm clean with you. Uh George is sitting there. he's put together. He wants to be 837 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:52,080 on out of protecting tourism. You know, he's one of the biggest u well it's the 838 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:58,800 largest probably on the lake and he's very proud of it for those that attended 839 01:15:55,679 --> 01:16:04,239 the patriotic celebration. We just an awesome awesome crowd there. Five or 600 840 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:10,159 people by land probably several hundred boats showed up and all 30 minute 841 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:16,000 firework show. Uh, so he has the vision. We need you folks with the vision to 842 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:21,920 partner with us and help us make it the place that we know it can be. I love it 843 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:25,840 to death. I mean, I've already I know this is going a bit too far, but I've 844 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:31,760 already made my will out. I'm going to be cremated. I have a beach on my 845 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:35,480 pocket. Put me there. I'm never leaving. >> Anyway, thank you. 846 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:42,640 » Oh, one second. Before we go on, I just want to make one 847 01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:48,239 comment about the the talent that we have in the county and particularly SLB. 848 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:52,000 When we were interviewing candidates for the new uh county administrator 849 01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:56,320 position, uh one of the questions that I asked Mr. 850 01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:02,239 Upurch and a number of the other candidates was 851 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:08,640 under the circumstances when you have far more things to do than you have 852 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:17,840 staff, what experience have you had with respect to the use of volunteers 853 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:22,480 and unpaid experts with respect to uh doing the staff work that is required of 854 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:29,520 which we cannot get done with our existing staff and one of the things 855 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:36,239 that um that I admired about Mr. Pep Church was the experience that he has in 856 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:43,920 doing so um I know that Mr. We met with with M Mr. H up church for his one on 857 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:50,000 oneonone at what 4:00 in the afternoon. I met with him at um 10:11 858 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:56,400 and one of the things that I presented to him was a proposal that I had put 859 01:17:53,920 --> 01:18:02,640 together last March um while we were still in the the 860 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:09,120 interview processes that laid out a plan as to how we can identify that 861 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:14,800 professional talent, how we can quantify the abilities that we have and how we 862 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:20,880 can put all of that together to use it to the best advantage to do that staff 863 01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:26,719 work uh for which the county does not have internal staff. So I think we've 864 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:31,760 made some progress on that. I think it's something that we absolutely need to do. 865 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:35,760 We're going to get make some progress and I think there's a way to do it. 866 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,239 » Yes, >> Kathy Ross again. Um after hearing some 867 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:47,679 of the discussion I just have a few more questions comments first to Mr. church 868 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:53,600 and to the lawyer, whoever it is, I would highly encourage you to try to 869 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:59,760 break that car contract so we're not under their 870 01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:06,400 problems. Um, second, I don't know if everybody here knows the water issues 871 01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:14,719 besides their own problem with, you know, poor quality or poor pressure. you 872 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:20,719 might take a moment um question um defining the difference between clear 873 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:28,719 water the the city system and what's going on with everybody might not know 874 01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:34,480 so just like a brief over the issues um and lastly my antennas went up when it 875 01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:41,440 was mentioned to give us a second special tax district a couple moment 876 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:46,960 after saying that this was not just an so issue. It's a county issue for like 877 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:51,440 the whole upper part. This shouldn't be a special tax just for 878 01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:58,159 » this county. 879 01:19:54,239 --> 01:20:03,520 » We just at night we represent our county. 880 01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:10,760 » Mr. Cook mentioned the special tax for >> my opinion it should be. 881 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,760 » Thank you. Before 882 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:19,000 we do anything, we got to do 883 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:30,800 » we have to look to see what best the we have because we don't know a 884 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:34,560 study which said CP can do the job because 885 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:41,600 we we have to provide water for the entire not just one egg. 886 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:46,719 to be able to provide water 887 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:54,920 and work from the surrounding area. We need 888 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,920 we have to sign a contract. 889 01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:02,960 We had borrowed money to do that to be paid. 890 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:07,280 We may find a way to get out. We may still have 891 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:15,679 to pay pay that pay that bill as well because 892 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:23,600 » we talking about a lot of cost but that would stand with you can't make no 893 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:29,199 decision right now it's up church we be talking to peoples of 894 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:36,239 you we be talking to people at the same time in the future be 895 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:42,719 looking at what's green what county at What can they do? And I said this like 896 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:46,880 to have everyone get involved with the kind of government not like running the 897 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:54,159 business. I work in the business. Government is 898 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:59,920 totally different. So you still have to follow the rules. You just can't come in 899 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:06,560 and run as you did when you were on private jobs. It just don't work that 900 01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:12,920 way. But we still need all expertise throughout this country. 901 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,920 We here in great county 902 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:22,320 that's a water problem. The county is working on 903 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:27,360 it. We're not here to scare nobody tonight. So I hope nobody get upset. But 904 01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:32,960 then we have to be careful when we use the water. 905 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:40,000 We fill it up above our keep this time 906 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:46,719 our grass. We still want to keep green. So excess 907 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:50,040 and that's why we doing that. 908 01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:56,000 Thank you. The attorney and I are looking into the contract and what can 909 01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:00,960 be done to possibly get out of it. I know that there's a contract that is 910 01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:05,120 very long and length. You know, I know we still have quite some years left in 911 01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:08,400 that contract. It's obvious that Falls is having some issues and so we're 912 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:14,080 investigating and seeing if there's a way out. Um at this time this is my 12th 913 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:17,840 day and I'm still still learning but um I'm working with the attorney on that 914 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:21,840 and that is being investigated and we're bringing in other partners to make sure 915 01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:25,440 that that's being taken care of. On the other side you talked about 916 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:28,560 communication. That's another thing as I'm learning the difference between all 917 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:32,880 the different water systems and who provides what service and the contract 918 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:36,960 links to those. I'm working on putting my own notes and once I get a firm 919 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:40,719 understanding of the current situation, I'll make sure to share that information 920 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:44,400 whether it's on Facebook, on YouTube, Instagram, um whether that's with the 921 01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:48,080 newspaper. I know the newspaper here today um to make sure that we're being 922 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:52,159 more transparent. But I encourage you all come to the council meetings to 923 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:55,520 share share your input, bring your questions. It was very informative in 924 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,400 the first meeting I went to when people brought forward questions and I went 925 01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:03,120 straight to the water department to investigate. So I don't hear your 926 01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:06,480 questions. Sometimes it may for me to know what issues are in the community. 927 01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:09,679 So, I appreciate your question. Would be more to be transparent and that's the 928 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:13,800 thing that I >> and I'll turn it back to my husband. 929 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:22,239 » Let me help you out. >> Let me help you out. CPW does 600,000 930 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:30,719 gallons a day. >> When they turn the valve on to SLV, it's 931 01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:34,159 1.2 million. Their capacity is 2.5 million a day. 932 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:41,040 » Yes, they have to add >> 3.5 and put on an additional shift. 933 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:45,600 » That's not what he told me. So 2.5. >> They have enough capacity. 934 01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:52,880 » Okay, let me um let me make one thing very clear. When I when I mentioned a 935 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:58,000 special tax district for SLB, um that was a recommendation made by 936 01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:03,840 Billy Garrett, not me. And I told Kelly that uh the chance of 937 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:10,280 passing another special tax district in the village um would have about as much 938 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,280 chance as an 939 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:18,719 » Yes, sir. >> So I have a question would ask 940 01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:25,280 anybody that's here. I have a question and would ask the 941 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:32,880 wholebody that's here to have the county council have a meeting here at town hall 942 01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:38,080 every third month so that we know and we see the results of what we're looking to 943 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:44,639 have done and what we would like to see done. So I would like to find out in the 944 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:53,280 audience every third month that they were here and reporting back to us about 945 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:57,840 the water and the pressure and all that. >> We will record that. I'm not sure we 946 01:25:56,159 --> 01:26:03,360 that's a decision that we'll have to make if we want to do something that 947 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:09,600 quarterly. As I mentioned, we do meet with Kurt uh almost monthly particularly 948 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:14,480 with issues going on. We need to meet monthly. Uh we give him updates. He 949 01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:19,840 documents it. I don't know how he disseminates that information, but 950 01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:26,639 that's a a good way to get it on y'all's neighbor link. Uh but yeah, more public 951 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:33,880 uh public needs, but I don't see it having to be full counsel. Maybe your 952 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,880 representatives, which is three of us. 953 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:41,280 » Yeah. I think it's a great idea, but I don't 954 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:44,800 want this is a question, you know, I don't want to answer that question for 955 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:50,000 us tonight. That's not We need to discuss how we want to, you know, make 956 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,840 be more transparent because you I hope y'all here 957 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:59,840 that we are serious about getting more involved, being staying uh our new 958 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:05,199 administrator will keep me reaching in. He'll tell you right quick, his door is 959 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:09,280 open, his phone line, I had a couple people. I said, "Go ahead and call and 960 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:15,040 set up an appointment. He's ready to meet y'all and listen to y'all." That's 961 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:20,480 we pay him big bucks with you. And I'll say I'll add to that. 962 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,840 I pretty much have a lunch or a dinner meeting scheduled with the resident 963 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,440 almost every day for the next three weeks. And so if you have questions or 964 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:30,639 you want to meet with me, my doors open. I'll have lunch with you. You can come 965 01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:34,080 to my office. We go to dinner. Whatever you need so we can address your 966 01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:37,360 concerns. I'm willing to do it. So weekday, weekend, I'm here to help you 967 01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:42,639 out. >> Right. It was just a suggestion so that 968 01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:48,560 we as a village see the progress that's being made. There's a lot of people here 969 01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:53,600 versus a few going to the council meetings and then as long as that 970 01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:59,360 information is brought back to the residents. But I think that that would 971 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:03,840 be just something we see the progress being made. 972 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:08,800 » Is Mr. Smith here tonight? He's he's hiding on the back row. We're not going 973 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:13,679 to let you get by. But you hear that, you know, we discuss it quite frequently 974 01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:20,239 uh in our meetings. Let's address that and come up with a very good something 975 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:24,320 that U will help inform particularly with the water. We all know the water 976 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:29,840 and you keep mentioning the village but the issue if the water fails here guess 977 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:35,280 what it's going to fail the rest of the county too. So this is not an isolated 978 01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:42,320 situation that the county finds itself in. So that's I lose sleep over that 979 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:48,080 because the lady mentioned and I'm not cuz only my information comes off 980 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:54,639 YouTube and we know how YouTube is. But we sent them almost what $400 to 981 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:59,199 $600,000 a lot of money to pay for our water and they have no clue where the 982 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:05,280 money went. They haven't done an audit in three years. Uh why some people up 983 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:10,480 there not incarcerated yet? I don't know. Again, I'm I'm not a speaker 984 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:14,960 because I don't have facts, but that's go on YouTube. I know Greenwood Index 985 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:20,960 Journal is carried some good articles about the situation, clinical situation 986 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:26,080 up there. Research it because it it's not pretty scary. And that's why I 987 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:30,560 mentioned y'all don't hear a lot of things I'm trying to say, but we have 988 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:36,960 got if we don't have a contract with Evanville. We did a little ordinance to 989 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:42,320 pay our payments directly to them so that money would continue to disappear 990 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:48,800 because they threatened what uh two months ago on a Friday they want to turn 991 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:53,120 our water off. Uh that that's scary and so we are paying our money straight in 992 01:29:51,040 --> 01:30:01,360 but we need to get involved with them on this contingency plan on what happens if 993 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:10,639 they whole little town collapses. So that's all mentioning water and sewer 994 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:15,120 and particularly I know Rico miss upset with me but I do that at all. I probably 995 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:21,360 he knows what I'm fixing to do. I'm fixing to say please 996 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:27,360 call in all your issues with your water because he I went and asked him one time 997 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:33,760 about the issues and it was just a very few. They document every complaint and 998 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:38,639 that's how they get they can pull trends and see areas that maybe are being 999 01:30:36,719 --> 01:30:45,040 overlooked that they need to focus more on. So ring their phones, ringers before 1000 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:50,159 ours just being a little facicious there, but 1001 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:54,880 uh it's very important they document where these locations are. So if there 1002 01:30:52,800 --> 01:31:01,360 is something that water department can do in the interim uh they got they know 1003 01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:05,880 where to go. It's not asking much just call that number and they'll take your 1004 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,880 information. 1005 01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:15,920 For those of you who um are not familiar or don't attend the public affairs 1006 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:23,840 committee meetings, uh I would highly recommend that you go 1007 01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:29,199 on the SLB website for those SLB citizens and residents. 1008 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:33,920 Scott Warham who's the new chair of the public affairs committee has brought up 1009 01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:40,080 a website in which the information from various 1010 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:46,159 public meetings including the council meeting and those discussions and 1011 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:52,239 decisions are are timely posted on that website. So, if you're looking for 1012 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:56,560 immediate feedback uh on a lot of things that are happening in the county, maybe 1013 01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:01,679 you don't find them on the county's website, 1014 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:07,360 uh Scott and the the members of the public affairs committee, uh including 1015 01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:11,920 West Wes Newman and others are going to these meetings. They're collecting that 1016 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:16,320 information. They're coming back and it's going on to the public affairs 1017 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,920 website. So, if you're looking for some timely information, check that website. 1018 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,360 Yes, sir. 1019 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:37,000 Um, just show up. How many before this meeting 1020 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,000 had 1021 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:46,960 the poor sucker from Colorado been through this before? 1022 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:54,840 I'm the guy from Colorado that's been through this once before. 1023 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,840 So, I can't stress enough to all of you. 1024 01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:03,400 Communication is huge here. Chuck, thank you for all the responses to the 1025 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,400 questions that we 1026 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:14,239 just emphasizes more serious problem. 1027 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:19,760 It's not right now. just I see it. I've been through this 1028 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:27,120 before and all I can ask and pray that you all do for us here at SLB is 1029 01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:31,920 communicate and have some great ideas how to do that so that these folks can 1030 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:41,199 stay more informed and understand because we are here to do this one. You 1031 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:50,199 need us to talk to state level. We'll do it and we'll do it for you. 1032 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:50,199 Will get you tell us what you need. 1033 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:58,159 Please open communication and transparency. 1034 01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:01,159 These folks need that help. 1035 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,600 But if we don't do anything 1036 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:21,560 you guys have to make some tough decisions as this thing gets worse and 1037 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,560 worse 1038 01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:35,360 artificial in the golf course but those things I've seen 1039 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:40,639 and I've seen the board go through that process of telling citizens 1040 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:45,520 we're stuck. So thank you for being aware for the 1041 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:52,480 last six years there is a potential problem. I think it's got to point where 1042 01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:58,560 we would love to come and help you with whomever it is however it is you need 1043 01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:03,840 done so we can get something and Dr. I know it's complex. You explain 1044 01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:09,679 a lot of different things that have to happen and he's correct. Again, I've 1045 01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:14,159 seen this before, but please keep us in the loop in terms of, you know, you have 1046 01:35:12,159 --> 01:35:18,960 a plan. You have these items that you have to get accomplished. Show us those. 1047 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:26,679 Let us know how those are going. So, if you do need help, maybe we can. But 1048 01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,679 please don't sit back and do nothing. 1049 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:35,159 So, And I'm not here to scare people. I'm not. Trust me. These guys 1050 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:42,239 know what they're doing. It's just we need to get together and 1051 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:45,239 help you too so that we can get that money. 1052 01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:03,000 We got to do something and do it quickly. 1053 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:03,000 whatever it is you can do. 1054 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:13,440 » Thank you very much. Yes, sir. >> Hey, Ron Beach, 306 Andrews Lane. So, 1055 01:36:12,159 --> 01:36:19,120 I'm going to talk about water, but a whole different 1056 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:24,080 responsible for repairing leaks related to water. 1057 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:27,120 » Where's the leak? Is it between? >> Well, if it's on the if it's on the 1058 01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,719 main, you know, if it's out on the road. Oh, 1059 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,360 » yeah. I'm saying like on the side of the road. 1060 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:35,600 » That's one of those >> That's one of those situations you have 1061 01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:38,480 to report because we do not we've got hundreds of miles of lines. 1062 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:44,639 » Different question. >> Okay. 1063 01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:49,840 » Who is responsible for repairing those? What entity in the county? 1064 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:52,639 » If it's in if it's in the village, it's county roads, then it's going to be 1065 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,679 county Well, any water line is going to be a 1066 01:36:54,719 --> 01:37:00,239 challenge. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, I got to tell you 1067 01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:06,320 about something and I and I I guess I'm not sure who pays for this because 1068 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:12,639 uh River Drive is near my house in St. Andrews, near St. Andrews Lane. And I've 1069 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:18,480 watched this twice on that road where it was like different spots broke and it 1070 01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:23,199 was repaired three times. I'm from Ohio and I don't know, maybe things are 1071 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:28,239 different up there. situation. But when we repair holes or repair water, 1072 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:33,840 typically I don't see anybody out there for a few years. Here, you guys, 1073 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:37,600 somebody is repairing it, not repairing it, right? Then it leaks some more, then 1074 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,480 it might go on for a couple more weeks and then someone else comes out and 1075 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:45,360 repairs. I've literally seen it on that road three times. 1076 01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:51,360 And I'm then I'm wondering like, well, we're losing water. See, nobody's going 1077 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:57,360 to charge for that. two, who's paying for that? Am I Am I Are we paying the 1078 01:37:55,040 --> 01:38:01,600 whoever? Is it an employee of the county to do that three times or is it the 1079 01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:05,840 contractor that does the water system? I don't know. 1080 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:10,080 » But basically, when we lose water, people really get upset about losing 1081 01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:14,719 water. They think the price >> only you guys don't or someone. Well, we 1082 01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:20,639 do get upset, but what most people don't realize with these long-term contracts, 1083 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:28,719 there's minimums, and we don't get charged extra. We pay a flat rate 1084 01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:34,080 uh for say a million gallons. And if if we use if there's like a gigantic leak 1085 01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:39,520 and you run way over a million, then that's when ching the county, the water 1086 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:45,920 department gets start charging a higher fee for lost water. So lost water is a 1087 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:49,920 problem, but if it's a small leak and we're not pumping the immediately, it 1088 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:54,639 sounds like to me we're responding, but we just got a poor line that's breaking. 1089 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:58,560 » Yeah. Yeah. So this is my real concern. What I saw there on that one street for 1090 01:38:56,159 --> 01:39:01,760 example, is that whoever is going out there, it sounds like an accounting 1091 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,560 employee. >> Yeah, it's got to be the only ones 1092 01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,480 authorized. >> It's not the contractor, right? It's not 1093 01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:11,199 that. >> Well, we contract our water service. 1094 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:16,880 Well, look at it. But as far as repairs go, it's a county employee. 1095 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:21,600 » Is is the county issues, CSW is managing the water for the county. So they're 1096 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:25,199 employee of CW. >> That's what I was trying. That's a very 1097 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:30,880 simple answer to what I was trying to get answer. So CSW is doing. Okay. 1098 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:33,840 » So is CSW charging you three times when they don't prepare it right the first 1099 01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:37,600 time? >> All part of the same thing. 1100 01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:42,800 » Okay. And part of the issue might be one of the things that we have not talked 1101 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,320 about is how old all of these lines are throughout the county. 1102 01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:49,040 » No question. >> And sometimes the repair doesn't take 1103 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:53,760 » and they have to do something different. >> Do we have standards that we are there 1104 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:55,920 procedures that are set up for how that is supposed to be done? 1105 01:39:54,639 --> 01:39:59,440 » Is that in writing that someone could send to me 1106 01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:04,400 » because I'd love to see them >> because uh because I can tell you that 1107 01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:08,320 there's something called the nsf.org that has a six standard 61 that talks 1108 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:12,719 about the materials. >> And the only reason I'm getting into 1109 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:16,880 that is that actually they one of those uh repairs happen in front of a guy who 1110 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:21,360 was a pipe header for 40 years and moved down here and he couldn't be here. 1111 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:26,400 But he actually watched the guy do the work. He said it was like watching a a 1112 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:29,199 child play with a child. So I mean they they obviously did not know what they 1113 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:31,840 were doing. They didn't do it right, which is why they haven't come back 1114 01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:36,400 again because he he didn't do it right the first time. So I think I' I've got a 1115 01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:40,400 question of I'd like to see the standards for doing this and and what 1116 01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:43,840 materials you have to use, what processes they're supposed to follow 1117 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:47,280 because I don't think they exist. But I could be wrong. I'd like to be I'd like 1118 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:50,880 to be right. >> So I'd like to see that in writing and 1119 01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:54,880 then I'd like to know that there's some confirmation from somebody CSW or 1120 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:59,360 somebody that they're following the standards that are supposed to be used 1121 01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:03,040 because I have a funny feeling they're not. 1122 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:06,000 Um, and I'm worried about that only because I'm paying for it. You're paying 1123 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:09,679 for it. >> We're all paying for it. And if it's not 1124 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:13,840 done right, then maybe it doesn't happen again for 5 1125 01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:18,000 years, but maybe in 10 years it it happens again. And maybe if it was done 1126 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:21,440 with the right process and standards, it would happen in 25 years that you have a 1127 01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:26,320 link there. I realize you got other issues, but I'd really like for someone 1128 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:29,600 to somehow provide that to me. And then also, I'd like for someone to provide 1129 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:33,840 me, and I think you guys ought to get it as a dashboard. CSW every month. How 1130 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:40,159 many times have they had to go back and re-repair something in the last two 1131 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:43,360 years by address? I'd like to get it in the next month or so. I'd like for you 1132 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:47,840 guys to get it and I think they ought to provide it to you every month as part of 1133 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:52,960 the dashboard of what they're doing out there because they are making at least 1134 01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:57,600 that's any example of it. I have a funny feeling we're all just wasting a lot of 1135 01:41:54,560 --> 01:42:03,520 time and not doing things right. And I do know that we do get a monthly 1136 01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:08,239 report on that report just says the numbers of repairs and the number of 1137 01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:10,800 tabs and different things. >> So not the number of times it might say 1138 01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:15,679 25. >> Yeah. Your street or your it doesn't say 1139 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:20,000 but we went there many times. It just gives me a total a monthly total of the 1140 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,520 number of repairs that the water department. 1141 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:25,679 » I think >> James is recording. We hear you. 1142 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:29,119 Yeah, >> I don't know how I get this information 1143 01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:32,800 from you, but I'd like to see it. >> Do I give you my name and number or 1144 01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:36,719 what? >> Because I I'm very adamant about this 1145 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:40,320 being changed because I don't think people are doing their jobs. 1146 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:44,000 » Yeah. Hey, there's many ways you can do this and give me your information. I can 1147 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:47,360 provide an update and I will provide an update, I guess, at the next council 1148 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:51,440 meeting, but also reach out to the water department. Reach out to them. They have 1149 01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:56,159 all that. We also get one of their representatives to comment on this. Um, 1150 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:59,679 » that would be great. But I would love I think what you guys know is you need 1151 01:42:57,679 --> 01:43:03,280 that so you can say >> they're screwing it up if they are if 1152 01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:06,000 they are. But I can just That's just one street 1153 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:11,199 » in the county. >> Yeah. Um, happy to address that. So, you 1154 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:14,159 know, first of all, what we do is dirty work. So, 1155 01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:16,480 » what is dirty work? So, >> who are you? 1156 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:20,800 » Who are you? >> My name is Drew Langston. I'm the 1157 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:24,719 regional director for CWS and I I support this project. I've been 1158 01:43:23,199 --> 01:43:29,040 in and out of this project for three years and helping support the 1159 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:34,159 distribution system from a technical perspective. So, we do follow NSF61 1160 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:39,199 standards. We have standard operating procedures that the county has 1161 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:44,800 maintained for a long time to to fix the leak. Um, and anyone who's ever fixed a 1162 01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:50,320 water leak knows that it is is very dirty business and as uh 1163 01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:54,560 Brown said there are old degraded infrastructure in the ground and so 1164 01:43:52,800 --> 01:44:00,400 sometimes you get into a situation where you fix a leak and the the pipe is 1165 01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:04,960 deteriorating. You may chase that leak and it may crop up at the same spot. 1166 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,960 There are times where you have a hard time getting the water to stop flowing 1167 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:14,639 when you're fixing the leak because it's hard to isolate that amount of flow and 1168 01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:20,960 it it becomes a very dirty job. We've had guys fixed very difficult 1169 01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:26,000 situations where it's 40 degrees outside and you got to keep the water. We have 1170 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:31,040 to we have to fix it. So, you know, >> but when I saw it twice on the same 1171 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:33,280 street and it happened three times to get fixed, there's something else going 1172 01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:36,400 on. >> Sure. Humble opinion 1173 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:41,920 » and and I think you bring up a great opinion or a great uh point there that 1174 01:44:39,679 --> 01:44:47,920 it's great to know how many breaks are you having in a certain area. 1175 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:53,360 Yes, because then you can start to cut it from a budgetary standpoint to say, 1176 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:58,960 "Hey, this section of line, maybe it's old, maybe it's thin wall PVC, maybe we 1177 01:44:56,239 --> 01:45:04,960 can replace it with something with that can hold greater pressures and sometimes 1178 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:10,000 there's defects in the pipes when it's original. Sometimes it depends on the 1179 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:14,159 ground. There's a number of issues. So, >> so is that being recorded somehow in the 1180 01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:19,440 system or something?" That's really what you would want to do. Great, great 1181 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:24,400 question. So, we do maintain a record of every work order when we go out to fix 1182 01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:28,480 the leak, when we are responding to a meter, when we have to pull a water 1183 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:35,840 quality sample, a pressure complaint, that is all recorded within the county's 1184 01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:44,560 database. So we we can now when you say GIS there is not a geospatial component 1185 01:45:40,480 --> 01:45:50,040 of of those that database but if you say okay there was a leap of say 1186 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:59,280 » little we we could we can query that to see what uh workers were 1187 01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:05,440 » I'd like to see a report the last two years to show how many times my 1188 01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:11,520 multiple times. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. We we uh we'll 1189 01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:15,360 get into that and query the database for as much information as you like to see. 1190 01:46:13,679 --> 01:46:19,880 » Okay. How do I contact you? >> You can call the water department 1191 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:31,360 and you'll you'll get in touch with our personal and they'll get you. 1192 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:35,400 » Okay. I got one com 1193 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:44,199 and then the next day or the next time follow 1194 01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:50,600 the next 1195 01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:01,440 spot the same spot to come back and then the other 1196 01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:04,719 I think it's like five months in the same road. 1197 01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:11,280 » Yeah. And and sadly that's that's not uncommon. Um you know maybe like I help 1198 01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:16,560 support another system that uh we saw maybe in a three mile stretch and just a 1199 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:22,880 three or four year period over 20 weeks and it it came down to they used a bad 1200 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:29,440 batch of PDC and they had to do to replace it. So it's it's not it is it is 1201 01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:32,400 a complex system. But it's a lot it's a lot more common in the village than you 1202 01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:36,800 would think. >> I think it is. 1203 01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:41,920 » Kirk Smith and I have have experienced a number of these in which there have been 1204 01:47:39,119 --> 01:47:47,119 multiple leaks over a very short period of time essentially for the same pipe 1205 01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:53,360 and in the same area. One of the one of the problems that we have in the village 1206 01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:57,360 is that all of our utilities are underground. 1207 01:47:54,719 --> 01:48:02,880 » That's a good thing. So, so we've got water, sewer, electricity, 1208 01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:11,520 telecommunications, and when those were initially laid to be 1209 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:15,119 tapped into by new homes coming in, when there is new construction in the 1210 01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:21,520 village and you need to tie into 1211 01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:26,880 um whether it's a a water tap or whatever, 1212 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:30,560 a line may have to be run under a roadway. 1213 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:36,000 » Now, if you look at the uh the kind of thing that happened on St. Andrew's 1214 01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:38,159 » um where that was had to be repaired multiple times. 1215 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:41,119 » Oh, yeah. >> Look at look across the street. 1216 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:44,960 » No, there was nothing going on. >> There were new 1217 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:48,400 » there were there were new homes built there. I'm just talk I'm talking about 1218 01:48:46,719 --> 01:48:51,199 the length of little river that had to be 1219 01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:54,719 » there was no new homes built. You're talking about 1220 01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:58,480 » uh but I'm I'm I'm talking about the lake that was at St. Andrews because it 1221 01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,320 was the same problem. >> Oh, you're talking the one out the main 1222 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,840 road. >> It had turned on. 1223 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:08,880 » It had to be repaired multiple times. Got it. Got Some of some of the times 1224 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:13,840 when that when that occurs, you've got equipment going in and 1225 01:49:11,679 --> 01:49:20,560 particularly if you have to bring in a backhoe or or heavy piece of equipment 1226 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:24,320 in repairing one leak, the weight of the back, particularly if you've got a 1227 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:28,719 deteriorating pipe, >> it it causes a problem elsewhere. And 1228 01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:33,360 then you and then you have to go back in and fix that. And every time you fix 1229 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:36,639 something, you may have to follow it up because the equipment that you've used 1230 01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:41,760 is damaging. Right? >> So just just be aware that in the 1231 01:49:39,119 --> 01:49:47,840 village we have a problem with multiple lines. Um and sometimes when uh the 1232 01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:53,199 people come in to fix it, no matter how good a job they do, no matter how 1233 01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:58,000 careful they are, they create multiple problems. So it's not unusual 1234 01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:01,679 » to have to go back to the same location multiple times. These were just regular 1235 01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:06,400 houses that have been there for 20 years and so it wasn't that specific issue. 1236 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:09,679 But u I would just like to say that I hope you as an administrator will start 1237 01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:13,600 and you guys as a board will start requesting CSW to give you that because 1238 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:19,840 I think there is something going on there. I'm not saying there's something 1239 01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:23,920 going on. So I would hope that you guys could add that to our information and 1240 01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:28,800 then I'm going to go see him and then I'll I guess I'll call you. 1241 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:33,920 » All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. We got about 10 minutes left. Been 1242 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,880 a great meeting. Take another. 1243 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:43,840 » My name is Brad Peterson. I am not going to talk about water. 1244 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:47,360 Um I brought this up at the um DA town hall. We did not have our county 1245 01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:50,719 administrator, Mr. Upurch at that point in time. 1246 01:50:48,239 --> 01:50:54,800 » I live in Monell and I have gray water pressure. Sorry guys, but I do. It's 1247 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:59,920 still dirty, so I still have those dirty filters like Randy has. Um, but not 1248 01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:04,719 talking about water. What my issue is, um, I have no cell service at my home. 1249 01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:09,280 So, when when the power goes out, which may go out tonight with this storm, the 1250 01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:13,520 Wi-Fi goes down, I have a battery backup on, I get a couple hours out of it. But 1251 01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:17,360 once that power goes out, my Wi-Fi is down. I have no communications with the 1252 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:22,560 outside world through my cell phone, which is my only phone. So, if I have an 1253 01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:27,119 emergency situation, I got to call 911, I can't get to her. Okay? So, I'm 1254 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:32,800 advocating for cell phone towers in the area to improve our communications. 1255 01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:37,199 Um, it's an issue when we lose power. And a couple weeks ago, right before the 1256 01:51:34,639 --> 01:51:42,560 town hall in Ohio, we lost power three times in one week. Each time is for more 1257 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:46,239 than three or four hours, right? And so, I was without, you know, without power. 1258 01:51:44,239 --> 01:51:51,119 So, I was without cell phone service. And so, you need cell phone power from 1259 01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:55,440 an emergency perspective. So, I just wanted to make sure 1260 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:59,840 was aware of it. aware of it. And as one person said, quit building homes in 1261 01:51:57,360 --> 01:52:03,199 order to get more sales coverage, we've got to convince Verizon to invest in 1262 01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:05,599 another tower. >> Exactly. 1263 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:12,960 » Because of the number of people living there and I think we're at a couple 1264 01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:19,199 thousand, 1800 to a,000 2,000 people >> uh for them to I don't know what it cost 1265 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:24,800 to build a several hundred foot tower. And it's not only there, it's 1266 01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:30,239 throughout. It's it's east, west, south. We've got a horizon tower mod. So I'm 1267 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,920 blessed. I got signals down there. >> I've been trying to raise that as an 1268 01:52:31,599 --> 01:52:38,000 issue. >> No, keep keep raising and we need that. 1269 01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:44,560 Yeah. Thank you. >> Just uh just one comment. Um and I have 1270 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:50,320 to go back to the water issue. One of the things that uh we discussed in 1271 01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:58,080 looking at locations of a water tower at SLB is putting it on high ground and 1272 01:52:54,239 --> 01:53:03,599 building a tower on top of it. uh which would be a very inexpensive way to do 1273 01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:09,440 that because we're aware that most of our telecommunications problems or cell 1274 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:16,000 phone problems are in the northern part of the village up in the Monello 1275 01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:22,560 and Savannah Point areas. So, uh if we can if we can properly locate a water 1276 01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:28,080 tower and and put an antenna on on top for a cell phone tower, I think that'll 1277 01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:33,520 go a long way to fixing that problem. Speaking of towers, I'm looking at Miss 1278 01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:39,440 T White here. I think when I talk to her cell phone, she's got a spot out in her 1279 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:45,199 cow pasture. She says, "Wait a minute. I don't have a signal. Let me run out into 1280 01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:49,639 the cow pasture." And she is out 378, not too far out of town. So, 1281 01:53:59,679 --> 01:54:04,920 Oh, they told you how to get around. >> Yeah. 1282 01:54:05,599 --> 01:54:14,040 » That's because of your Wi-Fi. >> Yeah. Yeah. But it's still riding down 1283 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,040 the road. 1284 01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:23,280 » See if they can help you improve that. One last question. 1285 01:54:23,679 --> 01:54:29,520 Yes, sir. >> I've been going to county council 1286 01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:32,960 meetings for about the last three years that I've lived out here and 1287 01:54:32,159 --> 01:54:36,960 » can't hear you. >> The discussion that we had tonight about 1288 01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:42,639 concerns about the contract that exists with the water company has not been the 1289 01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:48,000 first question that I've had with this same issue on contract after contract 1290 01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:52,320 after contract. It's my understanding that our county attorney's been here 1291 01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:56,800 about 30 years and he clearly has not done his job of protecting the county in 1292 01:54:54,639 --> 01:55:00,719 these contracts. What are we going to do about getting a county attorney that's 1293 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:05,280 going to put provisions in our contracts that protects the county from these 1294 01:55:03,119 --> 01:55:09,440 kinds of issues? That's a critical issue for this county 1295 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:13,760 going forward. going to cost us tons and tons of money trying to deal with 1296 01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:18,159 litigation, being out of contracts when we have a county attorney who is not 1297 01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:21,760 doing his job properly. The other thing I'd like to just point 1298 01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:26,800 out as a as a quick comment for the folks here in SLB, Chuck's done a great 1299 01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:31,840 job passing me out on neighbor giving information, but most people may not 1300 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:37,280 know that Bernie Hammy and David Mora all are representatives of SLV and we're 1301 01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:43,040 lucky to have three members on the county council that are representatives 1302 01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:47,440 of SLV in in the county council. We need to stay in touch with them and make sure 1303 01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:50,880 that they're aware of all of our issues and hopefully we get all three of them 1304 01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:56,080 communicating with us the way the truck does. Thank you. 1305 01:55:53,520 --> 01:56:01,520 » Well, okay. This is it. >> This is not a commercial, but I will let 1306 01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:07,040 you know for those that have Verizon, we switched back to T-Mobile. They have 1307 01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:13,639 5G. The service is phenomenal. T-Mobile, I'm 1308 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:13,639 just know 1309 01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:20,800 No, I >> This is Verizon country. 1310 01:56:18,719 --> 01:56:25,920 » Well, I know it is. And we had to switch to Verizon when we came here. We were 1311 01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:31,599 previously T-Mobile. So, we went to Verizon for two years and then it 1312 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:37,520 happened to go to T-Mobile and Costco. They said yes, we ultra and we had no 1313 01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:41,679 issues at all. >> Thanks for that information. And in 1314 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:45,679 closing, Miss Barnes is here. I'm going put her 1315 01:56:43,679 --> 01:56:51,760 on the spot just briefly. I was going to catch our EMS director, but she's left. 1316 01:56:49,119 --> 01:57:00,480 Another important uh tool that the county offers is code red. U I get 1317 01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:04,560 emails, I get texts and voice and voicemail 1318 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:09,520 all when situations occur in the county. So if you're not on code red, Crystal, 1319 01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:12,560 could you just briefly say what they need to do to get signed up for code 1320 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:17,760 red? >> You can go from the county website off 1321 01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:22,880 of the number one web page and there is a link to the code red sign up. You can 1322 01:57:20,719 --> 01:57:29,199 receive your text messages, phone calls, and emails. If you have any problems, 1323 01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:34,280 you can call myself or India who is our 911 1324 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,280 director. 1325 01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:41,000 Um, and even I think Stacy does a lot of water. 1326 01:57:43,199 --> 01:57:51,520 So any of us would be glad to help you get on that. But do remember that with 1327 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:56,159 water sewer they send out a certain area probably not if you're not in that area 1328 01:57:53,599 --> 01:58:01,960 will will get that phone call issue is the question. So you're not in 1329 01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,960 a certain area. 1330 01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:09,920 » Thank you, Miss Farms. At this time, uh I personally once again want to thank 1331 01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:16,320 everyone that has come out. We again thank Mr. Smith and the staff and 1332 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:21,760 residents for showing up a very good meeting. I was we thought that it would 1333 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:25,920 probably be twice as many folks, but the heat's probably got a lot of folks 1334 01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:30,639 staying under the air conditioning and so on was joking. Is it going to get 1335 01:58:27,599 --> 01:58:36,560 hotter inside inside there than it is on the outside? But it didn't. So, y'all 1336 01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:42,880 did a great job. Thank you. And uh you know, all our contact information is on 1337 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:49,520 our website, the county's website. Uh please text or call us. Uh, I'm probably 1338 01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:53,560 worse to call, but text me. I get I read I never I never 1339 01:59:11,599 --> 01:59:16,280 How are you? Nice to meet you. 1340 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:38,560 No, I'm just going to grab my phone. Yes, sir. 1341 01:59:35,679 --> 01:59:38,560 Thanks for the