1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Morning, everyone. I like to call the September 1st, 2026 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:12,000 meeting of the McLeod County Board of Commissioners to order. We'll start with 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,000 the Pledge of Allegiance. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:19,960 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:26,240 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,240 justice for all. 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,040 » Again, good morning, everyone. Welcome. Uh we'll 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:40,920 lead off with the consideration of agenda items. Wishes of the board? 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:46,720 » Mr. Chair, the only change I have is to the workshop agenda, and we will not 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:52,440 discuss the first item, the parking lot environmental environmental services. 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Other than that, the agenda is um no changes, Mr. Chair. 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,800 » All right. Is there a motion to approve the agenda 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,600 with the the um omission of the 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,920 parking lot issue? >> So moved, Mr. Chair. 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:12,000 » Is there a second? >> Second. 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,680 » Motion made by Commissioner Smalls, and seconded by Commissioner Wright to 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:20,120 approve the agenda items. Any more dis- any discussion? 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,080 Hearing none, all in favor, say aye. >> Aye. 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,400 » Aye. >> Opposed? Motion carries. 20 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:32,000 Uh consent agenda. >> No changes, Mr. Chair. 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,400 » Wishes of the board? >> Motion to approve. 22 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,920 » Motion made by Com- Commissioner Doll to approve. Is there a 23 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,120 second? >> Second. 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:45,080 » Seconded by Commissioner Chaska. Um discussion? 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Hearing none, all in favor, say aye. >> Aye. 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,520 » Opposed? Motion carries. Environmental services. 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Mark. 28 00:02:03,479 --> 00:02:05,960 » That one. 29 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Mr. Teletsky, I other I I'm I'll mispronounce it either way I say it, so 30 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:17,120 I But I had to fill in some 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,120 airtime there. 32 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,200 » So, I have two items for your consideration this morning. Item A is to 33 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:29,080 consider approving conditional use permit 26-16 34 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:32,840 as requested by Lawrence Cass, 22504 Flower Road, Silver Lake, Minnesota for 35 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,760 home occupation and accessory building greater than 2400 square feet on a 36 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,120 parcel with a primary structure. The home occupation will be an indoor 37 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:44,360 freeze-dried pet treat business to be known as Rustic Acres homemade pet 38 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,240 treats. The applicant is working with the Minnesota Department of Agriculture 39 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:51,160 and the Board of Animal Science for composting requirements and by-product 40 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,560 by-product disposal. Property is located in that part of the 41 00:02:52,880 --> 00:03:00,040 southwest quarter of the northwest quarter section 18, Winsted Township. 42 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:04,959 Property size is 12.28 acres. The Winsted Township Board recommended 43 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:08,040 approval on August 13th, 2026. The McLeod County Planning Commission 44 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:12,519 recommended approval on August 26th, 2026 with the following conditions. 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Number one, hours of operation shall be 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Monday through 46 00:03:14,519 --> 00:03:19,000 Saturday. Number two, a new conditional use permit 47 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,920 will be required if more than five non-resident employees report to this 48 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,000 parcel. Number three, the applicant shall be 49 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,200 compliant with all state and federal requirements. 50 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,080 Number four, if the composting of animal by-product and blood create an adverse 51 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,519 impact to neighboring property owners, a different method of disposal shall be 52 00:03:33,959 --> 00:03:38,800 approved by the McLeod County Board of Commissioners. 53 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:43,560 And number five, a compost the the compost uh area shall be on the east 54 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,959 side of the building site. Uh the Casses are present today. We had 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,200 a lot of discussion in regards to um 56 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:54,880 if the odor becomes a problem. So, the Board of Animal Health deals with 57 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,720 composting and they have standards, technical standards on that. 58 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:02,240 And I did speak with a a few of the commissioners in regards to that um 59 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:06,959 prior to today. If I go out there and I smell that odor, 60 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:12,160 you know, in regards to potential carcass or uh animal byproducts, then 61 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,640 typically the composting is not done properly. And the applicant has stated 62 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,440 that same thing. So, it is the intent um to make sure 63 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:25,840 that um with the scale of the operation currently today, they'll rotate that 64 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:31,640 pile whether it's uh sawdust or whether it's straw, something to keep oxygen in 65 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:36,200 that pile to keep that process moving. And um when it starts to heat, that's 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,720 when you start to get that odor. So, I'm very comfortable with that. Um it does 67 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:44,640 sound like the applicant has been involved in that process before, so I'm 68 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:49,360 not anticipating that being an issue. >> Mark, I have a couple of questions. Um 69 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,000 one What Why do they have restricted hours? 70 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,640 I mean, what is the What's the reasoning for restricting the hours? 71 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:01,400 » Home occupations generally we do put hours of operation on there just to be 72 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:05,160 able to give that Sunday as a day without that type of activity, whether 73 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,000 it's you know, the applicant transporting 74 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,919 um material back and forth from his property or whether it's people coming 75 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:16,280 to pick up. So, it's a standard hours of operation that we do place on those 76 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:21,680 permits to typically um just to give the area a little bit of 77 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:26,840 opportunity that's not business related. >> Okay, and I um 78 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:29,880 I mean, you do have busy times and I'm playing a little bit of devil's 79 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:34,880 advocate, but I've been in business for myself. You'd like to go home at 5:00, 80 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:38,600 but it doesn't always work. But um but my second question is on on the 81 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,280 smell or I mean 82 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:47,400 I live in Glencoe where you have Seneca. I mean, it it has its natural It has a 83 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:51,040 natural smell. It doesn't bother me, but it does bother some people. So, where 84 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,120 How do you draw the line between reasonable 85 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,920 I mean, you know, you >> Yeah, it's a good question. So, that 86 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,960 means statutorily on a conditional use permit and county attorney can chime in 87 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:06,480 on this, but that reasonableness test that we apply, we try to create that 88 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,880 harmony within the area. And right now, there isn't potentially an odor coming 89 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,800 from animal byproducts through composting. 90 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:17,880 So, the reasonableness test on that is what becomes objectionable, what 91 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,600 doesn't. I think within reason, I mean, we know that you know, there's going to 92 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,320 be whether it's manure, you know, whether it's some smells that come off 93 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:29,919 of the operation from the butchering side of things, there's going to be some 94 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:33,840 smell. It When we talk about, you know, excessive 95 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:36,680 a noise or excessive odor that we have, and that's how it's listed in our in our 96 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,840 ordinance, there's a little bit discretion there. So, um it would be, 97 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,360 you know, based on the average person whether or 98 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:49,440 not they feel that that odor is something that is excessive or or 99 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:53,360 unbearing to a neighboring property owner. So, to answer that question that 100 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,320 you're asking me about Seneca, um 101 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,440 you know, that's a business that's located in the city limits, and we don't 102 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:05,240 have as a as a county, we don't have control over what the municipal boundary 103 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,760 what the municipal board does or puts on on those entities for conditions. So, 104 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,760 » I didn't mean it that way. I just want to be on record. I mean, you can have a 105 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,600 sawmill, it's going to smell like it's going to smell like lumber when they're 106 00:07:12,919 --> 00:07:18,720 cutting the logs. You're you know, you obviously you can have 107 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,320 I I just I'm I'm in favor of the small business tonight, but I just want to be 108 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:27,200 clear that there's there's some there's some moving 109 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,400 you know, you you can't get no you're not going to get any smell. 110 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,400 You're not going to pick roses and you know, it smell like horseradish. 111 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,360 » Yeah. >> It's just not going to happen. 112 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:40,640 » From a planning perspective, municipal urban planning versus regional planning, 113 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,880 they're different. And so, urban planning, you try to create districts 114 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:49,160 and you try to create like uses so that you don't have, you know, two businesses 115 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,840 or two uses side by side that are in conflict with each other. 116 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:57,760 In the rural area, it's a little bit harder to do because 90% 95% of our 117 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:01,080 our zoning is agricultural. That's why you have conditional use permits in 118 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,760 there. Comes in front of this board to be able to mitigate for potential 119 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:08,520 concerns that neighbors bring forward. This was one of those concerns. 120 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,400 » And I agree, you know, beauty's in the eye of the beholder, but I I I just I 121 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:17,400 just want to make clear I kind of really wasn't asking a question. I just 122 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:21,640 want to know that that that needle moves a little bit. It doesn't 123 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:25,200 doesn't hang on zero all the time. >> Point taken. 124 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,520 » Any other discussion? Commissioner Schmalz? 125 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:32,680 » Mr. Chair, uh thank you. Mark, um are there setbacks in place I'm uh similar 126 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:37,440 to or um let's say what a feedlot setback might be uh from um the nearest 127 00:08:35,479 --> 00:08:40,039 residences in a case like this? >> There is not. 128 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,720 Yep, Mr. Kast does not need a feedlot permit. He does not exceed the numbers, 129 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:51,000 so you would need 50 animal units statched or by state rule, Minnesota 130 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:54,320 rule 7020, before he would be required. He's only on 12.28 acres, so he would 131 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,920 also need a conditional use permit if you wanted a feedlot permit, but his 132 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,080 numbers don't dictate and he's nowhere close to needing that. 133 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,080 » Okay, thank you. 134 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Any other discussion? 135 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:13,040 Hearing none, I'll All in favor of approving Roll call 136 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Schmalz to approve the motion. Mr. Chair, go ahead. 137 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:20,040 » Mr. Chair, I will move um conditional use permit 26-16. 138 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,920 » Motion made by Commissioner Schmalz to approve the 139 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:29,720 CUP. Is there a second? >> I'll second it. 140 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:34,920 » Discussion? Commissioner Dahl? 141 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,920 » Yeah, another question, Mark. Um 142 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,840 when you're going through this process with the planning commission, I noted 143 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:45,960 that there was a a letter from Brandon Artman and he had 144 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:50,920 several questions. In fact, it's it's five pages long. So, my assumption 145 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:58,600 was that every one of those questions had been asked and answered at the 146 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,951 planning commission and there's nothing left unturned here. 147 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,040 » My opinion to that is that is correct. >> [clears throat] 148 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:09,560 » Mr. Artman is not present today and I do believe that that's why he is not 149 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,680 present today. He was satisfied with the response that the applicant then or the 150 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,000 board gave. >> Yeah, very very detailed questions, very 151 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:21,520 detailed answers I thought were given. So, thank you for that. 152 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:26,160 » Okay, one last comment from myself is I mean I've had we've had some other small 153 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:31,360 business um people starting and I would encourage 154 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,840 the transparency. I mean, our environmental committee and our office 155 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:40,400 are readily available and I I would, you 156 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,839 know, keep the transparency cuz we've had to steer 157 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:48,920 lack of a better word, steer some people back into where they needed to be and it 158 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:53,800 wasn't that hard to do as long as communication lines were were open and 159 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,120 and I think we won't have any trouble with that, but 160 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,720 you got to start somewhere. >> Mr. Chairman, my only comment I think 161 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:03,760 this is a really unique small business opportunity. Congratulations on the 162 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,640 innovation to put something like this together. 163 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,440 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 164 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,120 » Last call for discussion. Hearing none, all in favor say I. 165 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,839 » I. >> Opposed, motion carries. 166 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:20,600 » Mr. Chair, I just want to note that um we were 167 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,760 notified that on HCVN that our meeting is not streaming right now and they are 168 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,280 working on it. And of course, the recording will be 169 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,680 available after. >> Very good. Thank you. 170 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,880 » Item B is to consider conditional use permit C 171 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:38,680 uh CUP 26-17 as requested by Bridget Bethke Pinder, 5000 Wilshire Boulevard, 172 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Crystal, Minnesota, to construct accessory structures on a parcel without 173 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:47,360 a primary structure for 12 greenhouses and a 10 by 40-ft pod 174 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:51,520 container for the purpose of growing hemp, vegetables, and flowers. 175 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,680 This property is zoned agricultural but is not defined by ordinance as a farm 176 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,680 due to the size of the property, which is 18 acres. 177 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,280 The legal description of the parcel is 18 acres, that part of the west half of 178 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:07,200 the northwest quarter, northwest quarter, excepting the east 281 ft of 179 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:11,160 the west 481 ft of the north 310 ft of section 10 in Hutchinson Township. 180 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:15,960 The Hutchinson Town Board recommended approval on August 13th, 2026. 181 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:20,960 The McLeod County Planning Commission unanimously recommended denial on August 182 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:24,280 26th, 2026 due to the follow following findings of fact. 183 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Number one, intensification of use on site without a residence to address 184 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,280 daily concerns. Number two, the request is not in 185 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:36,560 harmony with the characteristics of the neighborhood. There is a residence 186 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,560 within 100 ft of this request. 187 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:43,480 So, with that, I will turn it over to the board if there's questions for me. 188 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,480 » Questions for Mark? 189 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,400 » Bridget is here. >> Yes. 190 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,480 » I did not see her here. If you have questions for Bridget, she 191 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,200 is here as well. >> I I do I don't have a 192 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,800 necessarily a question because I feel it's kind of spelled out here. We do 193 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,800 have a We do have a planning and zoning board 194 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:04,080 or committee and they and they seem to and obviously 195 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:07,040 um and you can explain me if I'm wrong, but 196 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,600 uh fact is that there is some uh 197 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:16,480 uh requirements of living there and and and 198 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,080 and that's not happening. Is that correct? 199 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:24,160 » That that is not necessarily correct. This is not a home occupation. This is a 200 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:27,200 request to build accessory structures on land without a home. They are two 201 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:29,360 different standards of review by ordinance. 202 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,000 So, we've had requests in the past. 203 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Generally, when it comes to just mere storage, not necessarily to any type of 204 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,640 business activity. So, um 205 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,920 home occupations are if you're living there and you're building buildings that 206 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,800 are larger, per se, if you're on less than 10 acres, or if you're running a 207 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:51,760 business out of them when it's larger than 2,400 square feet. But, this is not 208 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:55,080 that. This is if they're just simply building buildings, accessory structures 209 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,520 on a parcel with no >> home. 210 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:02,560 » Okay, thank you. Then, what I mean, you obviously why did the why 211 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:07,120 did the board and I can quote a Commissioner Chustz as well. Why what 212 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:11,800 you must have had a discussion for unanimous vote on on not approving it of 213 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,080 for for these reasons of the law? >> Yeah, yeah, it was a very good 214 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,400 discussion at our planning commission, very, you know, 215 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:22,520 on all parties. I mean, it was very cordial. And it was just in regards to 216 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:26,480 the intensification in proximity based on the application that was presented in 217 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:31,320 the site plan that was presented to the neighboring home. There's a home that is 218 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:35,720 a residence that's about 100 feet from where the applicant would like to build 219 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:38,360 these houses, greenhouses, um 220 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,120 and conduct her business on that. And there was some concern from that 221 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:45,120 neighbor in regards to the proximity of that type of business. 222 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Now, with that being said, there were also we received 10 letters in support 223 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,200 for what she was doing. But, mainly on in regards to the type of 224 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,760 business she is she was conducting, didn't really address the concerns of 225 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:01,000 proximity to neighboring homes. And that is one of the things that it is 226 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:05,480 responsibility of the board to look at, you know, to make sure that the uses 227 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:08,760 are, you know, not in conflict with each other. 228 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:12,400 So, that was one of the blue things I I do that I gathered from our planning 229 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,880 commission on that intensification of use. A lot of those members felt that it 230 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,600 was just too close to that that residence. 231 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,120 » Yeah, cuz that's my I mean, thinking although that's my 232 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,360 my concern as well. I I I have no problem what she wants to do 233 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,120 with the business. I I don't take that into 234 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,560 so much I take it into consideration, but that's not 235 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:38,480 the closeness to this other residence was 236 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,720 what seemed to set off this whole um 237 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:48,480 our idea of maybe it was they're not the right place. 238 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,840 And a cure for that is um 239 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:55,920 we don't we as a board can't cure that. I mean I so it's it's going to be up to 240 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:00,880 the applicant and and that the homeowner next to it was 241 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,560 obviously objective to this permit. >> That is correct. 242 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,501 » I that's all I have. >> [clears throat] 243 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,160 » Any other questions from the board? 244 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Would anyone like to hear from the 245 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,960 from the applicant? 246 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:30,560 » I just want I just want to I want to say this. You have a 247 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:34,800 conditional use permit in my area, okay? I get calls from three different 248 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,600 citizens that live there the neighborhood. 249 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:44,600 It's if you're not on site to address the 250 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:49,560 concerns of the people that live there, it's very tough to run something 251 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,280 with a conditional use permit. Um 252 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:57,160 and there again my experience with this one of that's in 253 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,960 the neighborhood it's not in harmony with the 254 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:05,640 characteristics of of our our neighborhood. So, I see all the issues 255 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,360 that are happening and I'm sure that you are fully aware too, Mark, on all of 256 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:15,000 this stuff. So, having said that, my experience of what 257 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:19,280 I'm seeing with an existing one, I think this one is correct in what they're 258 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:21,480 saying. >> Yeah. 259 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,800 » Well, just to add on to that, where 260 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,760 my issue it's not an issue, but 261 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:35,600 we as a board appoint we all have our representatives on the 262 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,560 environ- environmental planning and zoning 263 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:45,040 committee, and uh I have to try I I at least I advised to 264 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:48,120 have my appointee uh 265 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,520 with the idea that they had the wherewithal and the knowledge to 266 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:57,800 um actually go and look at it, 267 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:01,920 talk specifically to that subject, and I I just don't have uh 268 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,320 um the motivation here to override 269 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:11,920 what the zoning committee 270 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:15,240 results came to be. >> If I may, Mr. Chair, I can speak to a 271 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,920 little bit of that. And I had this conversation with our attorney, county 272 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:25,040 attorney, yesterday. State statute 1599 really does us no 273 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:28,280 favors in regards to, you know, you guys having you as a board having 274 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,840 the minutes from the planning commission. 275 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:35,520 We receive an application 30 days prior because of notification requirements. 276 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,400 So, by the time that we can get something prepared and into the official 277 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:45,200 county paper, send out the property owner notifications for direct notice by 278 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:49,400 statute, we we need that 30 days. The 1599, state statute 1599, says we 279 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,000 have to render a decision within 60 days unless we extend it needing more 280 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:57,560 information. So, we have the planning commission 281 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:02,680 meeting August 26th to get those thorough minutes done and in your 282 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:06,880 packet, that would be very tough for us to meet that 60 days. 283 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:11,800 Um staff works very hard trying to get those drafts out and be correct with 284 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:15,080 those minutes. And I can speak to this last planning commission meeting as I 285 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,360 can to all of them. We have a very good planning commission. So that is a 286 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,200 testament to you as board members. And they're very thorough. It was a very 287 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,320 good discussion. The outcomes aren't always necessarily what the applicant's 288 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,320 looking for, but I can tell you that the discussion was very cordial. So I'm very 289 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,520 appreciative for that. The planning commission was very thorough in their 290 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:37,600 standard of review. And I as staff I'm very comfortable with 291 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,120 the decision that they made in regards to that. 292 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:48,160 » And and I hope this is a proper Christian mark, but I I understand that 293 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:50,920 there's some ongoing negotiations on on trying to resolve some of these 294 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,960 issues. >> There was discussion at the planning 295 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,800 commission about distance. Um you know, and the applicant was receptive. I don't 296 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,240 want to speak for her. She can speak for herself on that, but she was receptive 297 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,360 to maybe looking at a little bit different location on the property 298 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,760 moving that, you know, use back further. So um 299 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,640 she does have the right to bring that an application forward if something does 300 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 change. Um 301 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:17,160 And again, she's working on multiple things cuz she's also going through the 302 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,360 platting process which she did apply for her final plat. So you'll see her here 303 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,800 next month as well. So um 304 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,320 number of things that she's doing and then 305 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,600 um you know, she's aware of that 306 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:33,240 opportunity and yes, those discussions are ongoing and she did bring up some of 307 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:37,600 that with the planning commission. But we had the application um that we needed 308 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:41,040 to act on at the time and without the planning commission seeing exactly where 309 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:45,840 stakes were if you were to move it at 300 ft or 500 ft or allowing us to for 310 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,480 us to do the review because there is some wetlands in the middle of that 311 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,840 property. That would just it wouldn't be every it 312 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:56,920 wouldn't be a complete review. So best action moving forward without 313 00:20:54,400 --> 00:21:00,640 having to table that would be to deny that and then have them come forward 314 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:05,040 with the new application. >> And again, that's not a bad thing. I 315 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,400 mean, it's the process. It's too bad it is 316 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:14,040 like it is the 30-days, the uh ongoing things, but that's how how we get to a 317 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:17,640 solution. Am I correct? >> Yeah, that's a that's a fair statement. 318 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,200 That's a path that can be taken, and that's the path that the planning 319 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,920 commission felt was best at this particular point. 320 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:28,399 » Does the applicant wish to address the board? 321 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,800 » Hi, my name is Bridget Kinder. >> [clears throat] 322 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:36,960 » Um yeah, I just um um and thankful to be here today in 323 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:42,960 front of you. Um I am um going to start as soon as we get the 324 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:48,640 the third plat plat process done. Um I'm looking to start um or put a a residence 325 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:53,960 out there so that I can live there and come back in front of you um if that's 326 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:59,080 what you so choose today. Um to go through this again. I talked with the 327 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:03,320 planning board um and um told them asked them if it would be okay in that meeting 328 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,560 if I would move them back 300 ft. Uh in the back there I have a hill uh in the 329 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,720 back of my property so I won't be able to push it all the way to the back, but 330 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:15,000 I could push it back as far as I could. And I'm over my my property or where the 331 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,480 greenhouse is going to go is behind my house where I'm going to put my house. 332 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Behind the neighbor's house is where we've built our fence already. Um where 333 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:26,760 our cannabis is growing. So we're licensed for our cannabis to grow inside 334 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:31,840 of that black fence that we have out there that you've probably seen. 335 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Um and then um on the west side of that is where we want to 336 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:42,200 put our greenhouses. Um we could fence those in so that would you know put put 337 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,480 um um you know, keep things out of them or 338 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:49,920 whatever. But we're going to do hemp and vegetables in there. We've been growing 339 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:53,200 hemp for 6 years now outdoors. Uh we've had a lot of problems with our hemp 340 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:59,160 outdoors. We've had it washed out 3 years in a row. Um we've you know, had 341 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:03,080 um pesticide spray drift in on our stuff. So we've had a lot of issues with 342 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,640 growing our hemp out there. and so we went to the USDA and we got a grant for 343 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:11,960 $400,000 for these 12 greenhouses. So, the reason 344 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:15,840 I came now is because I'm in um jeopardy of losing that grant. 345 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:21,400 Um and so um that's why I came now before the 346 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:25,760 October time is up because my um Jacob and Dom over at the USDA keep coming to 347 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,360 me and saying, "Where are we at? Where are we at?" When I went for the grant, I 348 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:34,760 didn't realize I needed a permit to put the I went for this grant way back in 349 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:38,480 '23 I put this grant in. So, it's been a long time. So, I was supposed to start 350 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,560 with four greenhouses a year per this grant. I was supposed to start in '25. 351 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,320 So, '25 I was supposed to put up four. This year I was supposed to put up four, 352 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:50,040 and next year I was supposed to put up four. So, 353 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:55,360 they allowed me to move this grant or to move my four into this year. So, um I 354 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,600 don't know where I'm at with that now. So, that's why he he encouraged me to 355 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:03,600 come back in front um of you guys as soon as I could. And I figured since I 356 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,440 was already through the second phase of the plat, um we'd went through the 357 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,680 neighbor part. We've gone through this, and I'm on I'm on the third phase. I've 358 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:15,720 got my sewer stuff done. I got my title. Everything's done. I'll be back in front 359 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:20,240 of you here this next month for that. Um so, I thought in my head that, you know, 360 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,560 I had that part done. Um I had a some neighbors on my side. I have a whole 361 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,560 bunch of community supporting me. I had like, I don't know, 20 people in the 362 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:30,800 room and 10 letters. So, I had a lot So, I thought, you know, I 363 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:34,400 I'd kind of turned the table with what I was working on. But, when I got in that 364 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:40,000 meeting, it kind of like there was nothing I could have really done um 365 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:44,200 to get to to get to where I wanted to be that day. It's kind of how it felt. So, 366 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,280 um here I am back in front of you guys 367 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,240 trying to work with my neighbors. I had a barbecue. I invited everybody. I'm 368 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,760 really trying to work with the neighbors. Um 369 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:59,560 I'm a sustainable farmer. So, you know, they don't love that so much with the 370 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:04,000 row cropping around me. So, it's kind of been hard to make good neighbors. I've 371 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,280 been really trying. Um the new neighbors are have only been there a few months. 372 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,440 So, um when they bought that property, my 373 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:15,600 fence was there, the connex box was there. Um so, I was actually shocked 374 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:19,640 that they were so upset that um we were doing this because it's agriculture and 375 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,680 we're putting greenhouses on agriculture land that'll help us. And uh when I 376 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,600 heard the intensification part, I was perplexed by that because I thought, 377 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,320 "Well, we have rules that we can only have five non-resident employees 378 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,400 already, and we've never we don't have more than that." So, we would follow 379 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,800 those rules, and I have a whole bunch of like 380 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:43,040 proposed conditions I have together and things. So, I've really thought this 381 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,720 through and put a lot of time and um effort into So, I was actually 382 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,920 shocked when I went to the meeting. I was like, "Whoa, okay. I I didn't think 383 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:54,120 it was going to turn out that way." Um and so, uh yeah, that's that's where I'm 384 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,400 go That's what I'm trying to do here. That's what I want to do. Um I want to 385 00:25:56,120 --> 00:26:02,560 be able just to move my We do it usually about 6 acres of hemp outdoors. 386 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,440 Um and so, I want to be able to move that indoors so I can have more control 387 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,520 over it. And so, that's what the greenhouses will provide me. Um we have 388 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:14,640 enough We have 18 acres, so I can move the greenhouses almost all the way 389 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:18,920 towards the back to get them out of the sight um of anybody cuz we don't have 390 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,440 any other neighbors around us. Um like the proper like houses, I mean, 391 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,640 like that are close besides that neighbor. 392 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,920 Um >> I don't I'm not going to cut you short. 393 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,800 » Yeah, yeah, sorry. Yep, thank you. >> I appreciate that. I 394 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:35,760 I was um maybe it's my fault, but I I didn't 395 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:39,280 really know the pressure of the grants. And I mean, I know all the strings and 396 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,480 that is um but having said that, we have our own 397 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:49,560 ordinance since and committees that we have to go through. Is there Is there um 398 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,960 Is there a If we were to deny it today, is there 399 00:26:51,800 --> 00:27:01,160 how how is there a How do I say it? A a speedier way to get 400 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:04,840 her to if she wishes to reapply to try and ease some of the 401 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,800 the objections 402 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,280 through? >> And I can I can defer to the 403 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,520 I can defer to the county attorney, but in regards to an application, she can 404 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:17,800 bring that back if something in the application changes. 405 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,240 It can't be the same application. She would have to wait 6 months. I don't 406 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:25,920 have details in regards to the grant and on a new application, the same 407 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,200 notification process has to be met. So, it's very difficult. 408 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,200 If she called a special meeting, which she would have the right to do uh for 409 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,680 our planning commission realistically, she's only going to save 410 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,800 probably a week of time. >> Right. 411 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,480 » And pay significantly more for that application. And I don't know that the 412 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,920 outcome, time-wise, I'd have to look at the calendar. I don't know that it would 413 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:51,440 change because of your body, your board meeting dates. Um a special meeting for 414 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,160 the planning commission may not change when we would get that in front of you. 415 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:58,520 » Well, especially with small business, I hear 416 00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:02,840 I mean in my 12 years I I hear it more often, you know, that 417 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:08,440 people didn't know this, didn't know that. And not of any necessarily fault 418 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,000 of their own, but especially on small business 419 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,080 it's so hard to get all the paperwork done. 420 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,680 Uh I think someone on the board know. I mean, 421 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,000 the bureaucracy there is, but I guess um um 422 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,949 Again, I don't want to capitalize on the questions. Is there any Is there any 423 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,240 other questions from the board? Do [clears throat] you have a couple more 424 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:35,840 comments? I I would just if there is no other questions, I I would just ask that 425 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,360 possibly I I feel bad about the the grant. 426 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,600 I is if there's some way that, you know, we can work 427 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:47,000 give the minutes of what the meetings were about and what 428 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,640 tweaking she has to do to get it through. I don't know if that's a help. 429 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,880 But I would encourage her, I mean, encourage that to work together, but 430 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,840 other than that, I I'll go back to the wishes of the board. 431 00:28:58,389 --> 00:29:02,160 » [clears throat] >> Mr. Chair. 432 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,760 I think in my time being here, I think I can possibly count on one hand um the 433 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520 number of times were uh 434 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,000 the recommendation from the planning commission was to deny. That's a pretty 435 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,560 That's a pretty heavy, pretty strong recommendation. Typically, they're 436 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,440 they're they're fixed up with some um you know, conditions to make them make 437 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:25,200 them work. And uh um 438 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:30,000 this particular request here with the added, you know, explanation of 439 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,080 things, there's a lot of things uh to consider here, but there's really 440 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,360 only just a couple elements that are within our wheelhouse, which is 441 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,440 which is our our ordinance that we have, which has stood in place for decades 442 00:29:39,655 --> 00:29:44,760 » [clears throat] >> and asked other businesses to comply in 443 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,960 things like grant deadlines. It's not through here, it's it's a 444 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,400 different office, and we have no control over over its acceptance or denial of 445 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,600 those. And I'm reading the 446 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,600 you know, the language and the reasons for denial from the planning commission, 447 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,320 um that those are 448 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:06,720 some reasons that could be duplicated again down the road, um I feel, um 449 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:11,400 especially when we are looking at a rather intense use, and we do not have 450 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:16,040 that residence there, um as was stated by Mark, this would typically fit more 451 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:20,080 with a storage facility, um but not where we're starting having um numerous 452 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:24,920 employees or this intensification of land. And I I wish there was a way to 453 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:29,000 make this work out. But at this point, um just, you know, to maybe recognize 454 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,440 the efforts of many years of other businesses fitting 455 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,240 through this, I think we almost have to stay within the recommendation of the 456 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,920 planning commission, and hopefully there's a way 457 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,400 that the applicant can work with everything else that's in play, but we 458 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,160 have to work with what we have control of here, I'm afraid. Um in order to 459 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,920 maintain maintain the integrity of the decisions that we made in the past and 460 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,240 in the future. And that's kind of a tough one to do. 461 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:55,440 To tell somebody no is a hundred times harder than tell somebody yes, I think, 462 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,880 in these instances. Um but we do have to keep in mind that 463 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,680 there will be more applications down the road and if we stray off the lines, we 464 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,360 get asked to stray further yet on the next one. 465 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,960 So, I'm um 466 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,720 I'm still staying within the recommendation from our from our 467 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,800 planning commission. Um but uh I wish there was a different way 468 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:22,680 to look at it, but our my my job here, I feel, has to stay within that. 469 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:27,200 » Is that a motion, Commissioner Wright? >> I guess I might as well start it off by 470 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200 making that a motion. 471 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,520 » Motion made by Commissioner Wright to not approve the the permit. Is there a 472 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,200 second? >> Second. 473 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:41,200 » Seconded by Commissioner Doll. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, I will add within that to 474 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:46,000 stay within the uh the reasons given by the planning 475 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000 commission. 476 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:53,080 » All right, I any more discussion? I and I I have 477 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,640 I I have no wishes to uh I I try to be consistent and and 478 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,000 we've we've put an emphasis on our committees. We've eliminated some and 479 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,760 put an emphasis [clears throat] on some and I have no 480 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:08,720 um will to override our 481 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:14,120 our committees and and and and and their points are well taken and so is the 482 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:17,800 applicants. I I I feel um as Commissioner Wright said, I it it's 483 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,960 tough to say no, especially when you like to encourage small business. 484 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:28,120 But with that, I would, you know, ask that whatever we can do 485 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:32,560 in your office, uh Mark, to to help her if if if that's possible. I know you 486 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:36,880 would anyway, but that that that's just it's it's not anything else other than 487 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:42,800 what's been stated today. Any other discussion? 488 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:47,120 Hearing none, all in favor say I. I. Opposed? Motion carries. 489 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,120 » Thank you. 490 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,080 » Information and technology map. 491 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440 » Good morning. >> Good morning. 492 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:09,120 » I have two items this morning. Uh the first one is consider approving the 493 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:17,240 quote from Insight Public Sector of Chandler, Arizona for six Lenovo servers 494 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,240 at a state contract price of $422,739.48 495 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:25,440 with funds from the 2026 general funds revenue 496 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:29,280 or general fund reserves. As discussed at the August 4th 497 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,880 board workshop, these servers will replace existing servers used by the 498 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,640 county to host various applications and systems. 499 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:42,840 These existing servers are 6-plus years old 500 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:48,040 and were planned to be replaced in 2027. Due to the need to convert from VMware 501 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:53,160 to Hyper-V and market lead times, I'm asking to purchase these servers now. 502 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:57,880 VMware and Hyper-V are products that allow us to run multiple servers on a 503 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:03,680 single physical server, allowing better utilization of the physical server. 504 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:08,320 Purchasing these servers now allows us the time needed to complete the 505 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:12,560 migration from VMware to Hyper-V before our VMware licensing expires. 506 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,840 » Questions of the board? >> I have a question, Mr. Chair. 507 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:25,120 » Go ahead, Commissioner Chudzinski. >> So, are you anticipating this being in 508 00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:28,320 this year's budget yet, or are you buying them because there's such a long 509 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:31,360 lead time that it'll go into next year's budget? 510 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,560 » I'm anticipating it coming out of 2026 budget funds. 511 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,560 » Okay. 512 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,760 » Any other questions for Matt? Mr. Doll. 513 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,679 » Mr. Chair, clarification there because 514 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:53,040 what I'm reading here is it it appears to me like we're taking the 515 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:56,200 funds out of the reserves. Not out of your budget. 516 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Am I am I missing something here? 517 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,880 » Uh that is correct. The funds will come from the the budget reserves for 2026. 518 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,720 » Any other questions or comments? 519 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,680 » Mr. Chair. >> Go ahead. 520 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:25,440 » Somebody has to explain this to me. And I'm not picking on Matt. Okay. 521 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Very clear about that. So 522 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,360 if it's a non-budgeted item and it's coming out of reserves, 523 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,400 are we then obligated to put the funds back in the reserves next year? 524 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,840 Or what's going on here? >> Mr. Chair. 525 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,720 » Go ahead. >> No, we are not. 526 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,440 It's for unexpected expenses that couldn't be budgeted because it wasn't 527 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:48,160 anticipated to know the expense, correct? 528 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:53,120 » Correct. >> But it does not have to be replaced. No. 529 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,520 However, it is available. >> It's budget reserves. I mean, not that 530 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:04,360 that makes a lot of difference, but it is a reserve account that's 531 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:09,280 made for or used for these kind of 532 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,440 » unplanned expenses, Mr. Chair. >> Right. 533 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,440 » Thank you. 534 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,880 » Mr. Chair. >> Go ahead. 535 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,720 » And [clears throat] and and it does appear as though uh you had planned on 536 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:24,160 most likely putting this in your budget for '27, but as indicated here um 537 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,840 you need to do some conversions because some of the software challenges and to 538 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,720 get a hold of market lead times. So, >> Correct. 539 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,640 » uh we're basically uh 540 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,280 within your plans to schedule it now in this year's budget cycle, which then 541 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:42,600 triggers the reserves. So, we'd be looking at it for '27 anyways. So, um 542 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600 » Okay, thanks. 543 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,520 » Any other questions for Matt? We have um 544 00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:00,760 I discussed um 545 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:06,680 this purchase lack of a better word before, and I um 546 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:10,680 I'm more interested in making sure that it is a 547 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,120 um viable 548 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,640 or I mean a a good purchase, a needed purchase, not a want, a needed purchase. 549 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:22,400 And I That's what I'm [clears throat] basically basing 550 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,400 my thoughts on. 551 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:30,240 » So, the servers would we would need to replace the servers anyway. 552 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:33,720 Um as far as the conversion from from VMware to Hyper-V, 553 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,080 um we wouldn't necessarily have to do that 554 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,080 piece. Um 555 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:44,800 we could pay the increased VMware licensing fees. 556 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:50,000 Um in addition to that, there we've had support challenges with VMware since 557 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:54,680 their acquisition in 2023. Um it's been taking us 558 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,480 weeks to get things resolved instead of days. If we were to have a critical 559 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,840 system down that we needed support from the vendor on, 560 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,720 I couldn't guarantee it'd be resolved in a timely manner. 561 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,840 » And again, I thought we we discussed some of these challenges in the 562 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840 workshop. 563 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,800 » We did, yes. 564 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:21,400 » Any more discussion or questions? >> Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to 565 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,360 approve. >> Motion made by Commissioner Wright 566 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,280 approve. Um, is there a second? 567 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,320 I'll second it. Um, discussion? 568 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,680 » Mr. Chair, just based on the point, it looks like this is something we're 569 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:41,640 obviously going to have to deal with in '27 anyways. Um, and uh 570 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:45,400 uh anybody who's keeping track of the um the expenditures to maintain the 571 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,640 technology and the safety and security of the technology in the county over the 572 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,880 past couple years they look an eye-opener to everyone what it costs 573 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,520 to um keep all that data safe 574 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,040 and and to keep it moving through it all the county departments and how we have 575 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,360 to work with um all the many agencies outside of the 576 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,080 county. It just takes an awful lot of computer time. 577 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,400 I don't understand how all that works. I'm glad Matt does. Um, but uh it does 578 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,120 look like it's an expenditure that we were needing to look at at some point. 579 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:17,040 Um and I do appreciate Mr. Doll's questions 580 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,920 on on how those fund reserves um operate. I think that was uh 581 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,240 just good ringing in this discussion as well, so. 582 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:31,480 » And I as well I have I mean I have to I'm not going to claim 583 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:35,480 knowledge of the IT, but I have this has been an ongoing discussion on the 584 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:39,680 challenges of what's uh what you have now and to what we're we're going to go 585 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:45,520 and I know we had discussion on the maintenance charges versus 586 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,840 getting the work done and switching and I uh 587 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,520 again uh uh 588 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:56,400 the way I'm view the the payment here that that 589 00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:01,280 budget is for that part of the budget is for 590 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:05,800 instances that come up where budgeting doesn't reach. I you 591 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:11,480 know, back to the point of um how it's funded we can I mean we can go 592 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,480 through that later, but 593 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:21,120 I know we have a question from the we don't we We take questions 594 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,080 during the meeting, so we'll have to rely on that. 595 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,640 Any other questions from the board? 596 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,000 I'll call the question. All in favor say I. 597 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,800 » I. >> I. Opposed? 598 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Motion carries. >> Item B is consider approving quotes from 599 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Insight Public Sector of Chandler, Arizona for additional storage capacity 600 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,560 at a state contract price of $210,063.54 601 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:57,960 with funds from the 2026 general reserve or general fund reserves. 602 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:02,160 This additional storage capacity is needed to complete the conversion from 603 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,280 VMware to Hyper-V. To complete the conversion, systems need 604 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,400 to run in both environments for a period of time. 605 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:13,480 We do not currently have enough storage space to convert some of our systems. 606 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,880 » Mr. Chair, >> I'll move request. 607 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,360 » Go ahead, Commissioner Swenson. >> Mr. Chair, I'll move request. 608 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,560 » Motion made by Commissioner Smallst to approve. Is there a second? 609 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:35,520 » I'll second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Chaska. 610 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,520 Um discussion? 611 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,040 Hearing none, all in favor say I. >> I. 612 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,120 » I. Opposed? Motion carries. >> Thank you. 613 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,120 » Thanks, Matt. 614 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,400 » Uh Employee Relations, Hannah. 615 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,280 » Hello. Good morning. >> Good morning. 616 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,000 » I just have one item today. Um consider approving the user agreement 617 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,200 with Employee Relations from Newport Beach, California. McLeod County plans 618 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,760 to utilize Employee Relations, their Employify platform for background check 619 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:14,200 services, including but not limited to criminal record search, 620 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,720 social security number verification, credit check, educational degree 621 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,040 verification, professional license and certification verification, and motor 622 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,320 vehicle reports. Um, McLeod County previously utilized employee relations 623 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:29,720 for background check services and this user agreement reactivates our accounts. 624 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,680 I'll also just add so um McLeod County today we do full 625 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,120 background backgrounding on all employees. Every employee has a very 626 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,240 different need for backgrounding. Um, I'll just set right away I set aside our 627 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,200 um sheriff's office has their own backgrounding process that they utilize 628 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,680 within you know internally. Um, have very high standards and many months of 629 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,040 backgrounding that has to happen for our especially for our licensed positions. 630 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,840 We do our own backgrounding right now within our sheriff's office. 631 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,440 Um, we've been doing that for the past about 5 years which has been a positive 632 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:04,520 experience and um we're finding having a third-party option like we used to have 633 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,360 with employee relations uh allows us to do some things that the sheriff's office 634 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:10,720 um is is more limited. So things like if we 635 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,240 have a required license or if we're looking to verify someone's education, 636 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,720 um this resource will allow us to do that. Um, I'll also just mention the 637 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,520 cost is looking back on what we are paying previously with this it's really 638 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,200 remains very stable. They have their own as you see in the budget or in the 639 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:29,200 packet um they have their own costing for public entities like us as well. 640 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:35,760 » Mr. Chair. >> Go ahead Commissioner Schwalbe. 641 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:40,680 » Uh question for you Hannah. I mean for full transparency, right? With not just 642 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,800 us up here but the public as well. Um 643 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:49,120 what are we spending? Are we spending 10,000? Are we spending 100,000? Um 644 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:53,360 where where do the numbers fall on uh working with uh Employify? 645 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,280 » Yeah, so we it's a great question. So we like I've mentioned in the more recent 646 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,160 years we've been using our sheriff's office staff. So we've been using staff 647 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:06,880 time to run our backgrounding processes. Um when I looked at our where we were in 648 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:10,200 2020 um 2020 2019 um I don't have clean here in the room but we did look at 649 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:15,640 where we were spending. We were spending anywhere between about $20 to in some 650 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:18,280 cases maybe $50 per individual that we're hiring. 651 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,960 It really depends on sometimes we have situations where people are from 652 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,920 Minnesota, have never lived anywhere else, so we're just running a Minnesota 653 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,440 background check. There's situations where we're having to run multiple state 654 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:32,920 background checks, so it really varies depending on the individual. We hire 655 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:37,840 about anywhere between 50 to maybe 60 folks a year on average. So, I 656 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,880 don't have the exact number in front of you or for you today, but we did look 657 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:46,400 and see where we were and we anticipate probably a similar expense for us here 658 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,160 moving forward. And again, we do still have the Sheriff's Office as an option 659 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,080 to do a background report, but we do want to have this other option available 660 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:57,800 to us for some things like a credit check or things like that. 661 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,640 » I have a couple of questions. When you said cost of 20, 30, 40 dollars 662 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,840 or whatever through through the Sheriff's Office, that's 663 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,960 internal expenses, all right? That's just man. 664 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,440 Is there Is that a That's not a outside expense? 665 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:16,120 » Yeah, so what I was speaking to Commissioner was the previously when we 666 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,680 utilized employee relations, the same company, that's what we were seeing per 667 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,400 person when we were running a background ink 668 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:26,080 through us then. Today, you're correct. We're using like staffing time for 669 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,120 Sheriff's for Sheriff's Office when we're running those background checks. I 670 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,400 will also mention there are a few positions that we used to utilize like 671 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:37,680 the BCA background ink that are required per statute. We don't We can only run 672 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:41,720 certain positions through the BCA. They're very stringent on who can be run 673 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:46,360 and who can't be run, but we obviously also have that expense as well that 674 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,480 would that would be in effect today and will continue to run those based on the 675 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,840 positions we have to. So, I don't see this being a This is a 676 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,240 budgeted expense, an expense we have. It's in our all county 677 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,360 cuz this would affect all candidates who are applying for a 678 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:07,400 position with the McLeod County. >> Is Is this This is a per employee or per 679 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,200 individual expense or do we pay a certain amount of money 680 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,040 to lack of a better word belong to whatever 681 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,600 this organization is? >> So, this is just a company. We're only 682 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:22,000 paying for the backgrounding that's we need to run. So, in the packet you'll 683 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:26,360 see there's an expense sheet that was in there a couple sheets. So, um you know, 684 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,200 it's $5 you know, per and this is just for candidates. So, if someone's 685 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,680 applying to McLeod County before we're going to make them a final offer, we 686 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:37,040 have to run a full background on them. And so, it would be per candidate, you 687 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:41,160 know, it'd be um we're only paying for the backgrounding that we need on that 688 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,160 person. 689 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,400 » Any other Commissioner Schmalz? >> Mr. Chair, I'll move request. 690 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:52,680 » Motion made by Commissioner Schmalz to approve. Is there a second? 691 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,040 » Second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Doll. 692 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,040 Discussion? 693 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,800 I guess I >> [clears throat] 694 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:06,240 » It seems to me I that I would support the motion 695 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,440 hoping that um 696 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,880 we're offsetting some time from the Sheriff's Department. 697 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,560 Um and I guess I I I didn't think of asking 698 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,240 the question, is that cannot be used in reverse? 699 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,360 Can the Sheriff's Department use you as well? 700 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,880 » The Sheriff's office could choose to use it. Yep. I mean, if we wanted to do like 701 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,240 an initial backgrounding, they would still go through their own process that 702 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,960 they have to do. Again, these are specifically for our license folks, but 703 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,840 all of our deputies, our correction officers, communication officers, they 704 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:41,560 go through a very similar backgrounding process where they would still um that 705 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,640 takes again, there's a multi-month kind of process, but they could and we 706 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,120 haven't talked to them about it. >> to 707 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,200 » We're not limited. Yep, that's right. >> To me 708 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,600 is a is a good thing, but I'm sure somebody can find reasons why 709 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:58,000 it work both ways, but Any other discussion? 710 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,280 Hearing none, all in favor say I. >> I. 711 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,360 » Opposed? The motion carries. >> Thank you. 712 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,360 » Thank you. 713 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,360 » Good morning. >> Public Works, John. 714 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:16,720 » Item 8 consider approving the advertisement for bids as outlined in 715 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:21,520 Minnesota state statute 373.01 subdivision 15B for selling the former 716 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:26,360 animal shelter building located at the fairgrounds. As discussed at the 717 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:30,120 workshop on July 21st, 2026, the building does not fit the needs for uses 718 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:34,000 at the fairgrounds. An asbestos inspection has been completed and no 719 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,080 asbestos was found. I also just wanted to add that the 720 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,600 fairgrounds commission voted to recommend this approach as well. 721 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,040 » Questions from the board? >> Mr. Chair. 722 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:50,360 » Go ahead. >> Just one question, John. Um, can we 723 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:53,760 reject any or all bids in this process? >> Yep, it's up to the board. 724 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,520 » Oh, thank you. That was the information I was looking for. 725 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:02,200 » Go ahead, Commissioner Wright. >> Yeah, I just want to bring up 726 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:06,040 as we looked at the potential removal of this building by someone that would like 727 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,480 to purchase it. You'll notice that within the paperwork that there's the 728 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,040 addition of language dealing with performance bond and so forth to make 729 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,560 sure that it's taken care of properly. There is a way that the building could 730 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:19,000 be removed and excess bills fall on us and we 731 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,040 definitely don't want that to happen. So, there's definitely some added 732 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:26,160 language here as compared to what we may have seen in the past on some of these. 733 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:30,920 Make a motion to approve. >> Motion made by Commissioner Wright to 734 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,920 approve. Is there a second? 735 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,800 I'll second it. Uh, discussion? 736 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:42,520 And I'll And the reason I'm seconding it is I'm as I'm as frugal 737 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,000 or tight, whichever you want to call it, as anybody else, but um 738 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,840 I I too, I mean, you you knee-jerk when you look at the building, you think, 739 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:56,200 "Well, you can make it into something." And that was my thoughts 740 00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:00,760 but not even as a board member not directly involved but once I did 741 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:04,720 get on the fair commission and and we I went and looked at it 742 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:08,640 and talked with our staff. I mean there is 743 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:13,760 frankly it is a good building so somebody's out there you know 744 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:18,480 put in a bid. I don't know how it moves but 745 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:23,360 it just doesn't fit anything that I that I can see or that the commission 746 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:27,080 can see that we would could use in the future. Um 747 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,760 I um uh 748 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,960 I I I mean it the the doors are short. I'm 749 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:41,720 not going to get into reasons why but it was designed for what it was and done 750 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:45,800 very well and and I I just hesitate to to spend a lot of money on a building to 751 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,440 retrofit and still not have what you want 752 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,720 especially in today's world. I mean I hate 753 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,680 But that's my feeling so any other discussion? 754 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:01,080 Commissioner Dahl? >> Just a question. Does this 755 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,360 the removal of this building does that fit the long range plan for the 756 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,840 fairgrounds? And it's just a simple yes or no. I 757 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:12,200 don't know the long range >> Well for a simple for what I know and 758 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:17,680 Paul Commissioner I can maybe address longer but from the the 759 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:23,000 the lengthy discussion that we had that anything um 760 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:27,200 all views of progress to the fair it does not fit. 761 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,680 » I agree with that. 762 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,720 » Any other questions or discussion? 763 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,640 Hearing none all in favor say I. >> I. 764 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,080 » Opposed motion carries. >> Thank you. 765 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,520 » Good morning. >> Good morning. 766 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:57,080 » Item B, consider approving the final acceptance and pavement payment of 767 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,080 $14,694.54 768 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:04,360 to Meeker Wash Sand and Gravel Inc. of Darwin, Minnesota for County Project 769 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,360 026-000-009, 770 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:10,520 the countywide aggregate surfacing project. Uh the project is completed 771 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:14,080 satisfactory and final acceptance and payment is recommended. 772 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,840 » Mr. Chair. >> I move the request. 773 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,920 » Pardon? >> Motion made by Commissioner Smalls to 774 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,680 approve. Is there a second? >> Second. 775 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:27,320 » Seconded by Commissioner Dahl. Uh discussion? 776 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:31,120 Hearing none, all in favor say "Aye." Opposed? Motion carries. 777 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,120 » Thank you. 778 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,760 » County Administration calendars. Um 779 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:42,800 Since our last I I start out with myself. Since our last meeting, we had 780 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:46,960 the after we had our after board workshop. 781 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:53,920 I had some um a meetings on uh with the administrator 782 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:59,520 on some ongoing projects that we have in the works. Um I also um 783 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:03,600 um had um budget committee meeting on the 784 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,920 26th. And um just going over um 785 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,720 finishing budgets for '26 and and looking at '27. 786 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:19,280 I mean, I don't know what else to say with but there that's that's a 787 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,160 It's not a line item. Look, it's it's looking at the whole 788 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:29,600 thing and and trying to decide what's best for the county. Following that, I 789 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:34,280 had a HRA meeting. Um 790 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:38,560 that again um we discussed we had a workshop where we 791 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,640 had the the outcome in from the 792 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,480 Hutch HRA and again uh it's kind of spurred 793 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:55,120 some questions of the difference between the Hutchinson HRA 794 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,120 and the McLeod County HRA which um 795 00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:03,720 I guess I caused on my own because HRA and Hutchinson has levying authority. I 796 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:09,280 mean, it's not the same uh I ask and will be looking at more 797 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:12,680 transparency uh for that and and transparency in the in the avenue that 798 00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:19,160 it's just clear of the difference 799 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:22,240 between the two HRAs. Um It was uh 800 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:25,240 the questions came up because of the money 801 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:30,280 that uh we had and what was the account or what 802 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,480 it was it called uh >> I don't recall the account name. I'm 803 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:38,680 sorry. It was an allocated amount. >> it was allocated money that we use or 804 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:44,280 lose and we allocated out so much to uh the Hutch HRA and and it it it it was 805 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:48,800 good. It's it's good to do. Uh housing is needed especially 806 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,200 uh low uh low-income housing. Uh it's getting 807 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,520 tougher and tougher. Uh however, um 808 00:54:55,720 --> 00:55:02,640 again the difference for our 809 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,000 county HRA which I serve on uh 810 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:09,560 we have to budget 811 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:14,400 and maintain with the money that we have generated by grants or and 812 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,240 or rents and whatever. So, our money the money 813 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,640 that we're getting is pretty much is is not pretty much it's all going into 814 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:27,000 maintenance. Yeah, we had some ARPA funds that we put 815 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:29,240 into maintenance which allows us to have um 816 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:35,960 well-maintained buildings for rent and and trying to keep our rent down. 817 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:40,560 And um I guess I'll just end with 818 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:46,200 our our insurance. We got our insurance bill this year with or 819 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:49,000 for our HRA homes and it went up 25%. Well, that might not sound much like to 820 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:54,440 some, but when you have as many homes 821 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:58,440 as we do, it's it's a it's a line item to where 822 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:03,360 uh if we can't we're going to go out not necessarily on RFP, but we're going to 823 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:09,120 go out and try to find some uh better rates if that's feasible or 824 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:14,520 possible in order to uh keep our rents stable. 825 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,563 And on Thursday, I had the agenda review and that brings us up to date, 826 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,440 Commissioner. >> [clears throat and cough] 827 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:22,640 » Yep. Started after our last board meeting, uh 828 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,640 County Fair week. Uh I think all of us were were there quite a bit. We exhibit 829 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:30,760 uh our livestock from our farm right inside the door at the uh Agribition 830 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:36,560 building, so it's pretty easy to walk out of the street and see people in huge 831 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:40,960 numbers all hours of the day. And uh we'll have a more uh extensive report on 832 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:45,880 the County Fair from our Ag Association later on this fall, typically end of 833 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:51,240 October, early November. Um but uh judging by all the people that were 834 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:55,440 there, um the the the positive comments from everyone to maintain that an open 835 00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:00,240 gate fair. Uh the vendors the food vendors ran they were running out of 836 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:04,680 food on day three. Um and uh they were just delighted to be in that situation 837 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:10,520 where they had to hurry up and restock. Um and uh the weather was great. 838 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:14,280 Super enjoyable experience and we'll we will look forward to uh that again that 839 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,000 more um uh detailed look when the Ag Association 840 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,800 comes for their uh for their report. 841 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:26,000 Uh budget meeting, uh Commissioner Krueger reported on that. Um 842 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:30,240 we met with uh some of our larger departments and and uh 843 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:34,400 you know, you you go through the numbers and you you wish you could find room. 844 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,080 And uh but you know 845 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:41,000 you sit there for a while and you realize that 846 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,720 it's somebody else's that's pushing you through through making county government 847 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:50,000 more expensive every year. And it's the added cost of all the red tape that is 848 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,840 being asked on the state and federal side or when they change something, it 849 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:58,040 resonates down here and we have no choice but to spill it out in the levy. 850 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:02,760 And and it's it's really frustrating that the county level of government 851 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,040 continues to get blamed for the tax increases when it's 852 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:11,280 somebody else that's actually pushing us to the table on that. And uh 853 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:15,880 the added paperwork, oh my goodness. I know even an example I can bring up, we 854 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:20,160 are a delegated county through Minnesota Pollution Control Agency on feedlots. 855 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:24,240 Every livestock farm has to be registered and that used to be like 856 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:28,200 nothing more than just a one-page piece of paper. Now it's a book. And that 857 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,480 example is is nothing compared to what our Health and Human Services have to 858 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,440 deal with on a daily basis of all the extra paperwork, paperwork, paperwork 859 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,120 and auditing and so forth they have to go through for their clients. 860 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:42,840 And that resonates through to having to hire more people in order to make the 861 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:47,640 service work. And uh it's it's frustrating and I don't know 862 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,400 how to explain that we in our Truth and Taxation meetings I think we've been 863 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:55,400 doing a fantastic job in the past years of explaining that out. 864 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:59,120 These are these are what is really costing [clears throat] money here and 865 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,320 what choice do we have? We have to create the service we have to do the 866 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:07,560 service and it and it adds on to the levy. Even public works, the cost of 867 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:11,880 building a road, what was that in terms of all the engineering and uh 868 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,840 all the background work years ago versus now. 869 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:19,360 And it's it's not just the cost of the road, it's all the other work that has 870 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,480 to go involved and it just keeps getting to be more and more all the time. 871 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,280 And uh 872 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,560 So there's there's more to the story about running 873 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,280 a county government than just the levy and it's very hard to kind of get 874 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,920 through through that in a brief explanation, but 875 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:39,360 I I am proud to say that McLeod County is 876 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:44,360 um financially very very well. We can thank 877 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:48,200 a lot of our our people in our our bookkeeping department 878 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,760 and and employees that help keep it there. 879 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:55,360 I've been reading stories from other counties where they're looking at some 880 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:59,160 huge levy increases and they how much they can do about it and it has to do 881 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:04,920 with state and federal shifts. We're able to work our way um you know, 882 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:08,480 through that with not that drastic of of of issues so far 883 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:12,960 and I hope our day doesn't doesn't come, but I think we have learned to be fairly 884 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,960 braced for some of those ups and downs and so the next time we meet we'll be 885 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,840 looking at a number that for our preliminary 886 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,846 and uh uh we will see what we what we come up 887 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,040 with. Um >> [clears throat] 888 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,160 » on a little bit of a lighter note, this is typ- 889 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:32,760 typically the meeting where I talk about our 4-H program and our 890 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:38,040 state fair results. Livestock and camel weekend just finished on Sunday 891 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:43,960 and as always the McLeod County 4-H'ers that go down there did a fantastic job. 892 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:49,320 In the first week of October we will have our 4-H coordinator here when we 893 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:51,667 celebrate National 4-H week to give a you know, more of a PowerPoint 894 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,160 presentation. >> [clears throat] 895 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:58,520 » But McLeod County sent 54 youth uh to participate at the state fair state 896 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:04,280 competition. Out of that those exhibitors 897 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:08,400 there were 24 blue ribbons, 19 purples, 19 purple ribbons given out. 898 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,800 10 of those were champions in their class. 899 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:15,200 Two had two interview finalists which is a very intensive interview process to 900 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,680 see your knowledge of the project. It's not necessarily what what you have in 901 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,600 the halter, but it is your knowledge of of the project area. 902 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,360 Um 26 individuals in all ranked in their 903 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,720 individual classes there. So, 904 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,480 um, just uh 905 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,360 We McCloud County has historically done 906 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,880 very, very well at the Minnesota State Fair. 907 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:41,160 Uh, beef project area, there were five champions in the dairy, we had two 908 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,880 champions. Poultry, um, we had the champion breeding dove class. So, um, 909 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,280 so [clears throat] that's pretty cool. Um, 910 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,160 uh, swine category, a couple reserve champions. There are uh, 30 general 911 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:56,560 projects down there from McCloud County and they get judged um, randomly 912 01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:01,280 throughout the throughout the extent of the fair. Um, 913 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,560 it takes it takes a well-balanced program of a lot of community support 914 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:11,400 and great parents to pull that kind of stuff off. Um, and so uh, again, we'll 915 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:16,480 hear more about that um, in in uh, in October when we do 4-H week. And I would 916 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:20,093 probably be missing an opportunity if I didn't take advantage of it to talk 917 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,760 about ice cream, I guess. >> [clears throat] 918 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:27,640 » So, how did that come to be? Um, and I that's actually been a lot of a 919 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,480 lot of our time in the last week is talking about this the North Star Apple 920 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:35,400 Crisp, I guess recipe that we came up with. 921 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:39,440 Uh, this was a process that started back in I think it was February. University 922 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:43,760 announced they were having this contest, 175th anniversary, who can come up with 923 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:47,560 a recipe that um, talks about Minnesota, talks about 924 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:51,120 the university, and tastes great in the end. Um, 925 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,760 so we submitted um, making ice cream out of 926 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,880 out of uh, apple crisp apples and then putting 927 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:04,280 in a Rooney berry swirl in there. Um, and the storyline goes um, the 928 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,680 the story that goes with it, uh, which was kind of the the little 929 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,720 thing that you had to submit at the same time, 930 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,640 was uh, the dairy part of the ice cream, the 931 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:17,920 university's commitment to the dairy industry because they not only have a a 932 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:21,240 there research cattle where they do lot of things with feed research and 933 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,600 so forth, but they also have a test plant where they're making their own 934 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:27,320 dairy products as well. So, the university's commitment to the dairy 935 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:31,080 industry, the apples of course, University of Minnesota were successful 936 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,764 in apple research. And what a better way to eat apples than 937 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,960 an apple crisp, right? So, >> [clears throat] 938 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,600 » um and then the aronia berries, well, 939 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:43,560 that's where our farm comes in as being the the state's largest orchard of 940 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:46,520 aronia, so we threw that in there and kind of a little bit more glamour on the 941 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,400 story line and tell that represents the university. 942 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:53,104 And when you find out that you're like one out of 500 entries, do you just 943 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,320 Well, that was fun, right? >> [clears throat] 944 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,800 » Um and then I think it was somewhere in 945 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:02,800 June we were notified that we were in the top five. And so 946 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:07,560 then it was the job of the of the test plant, the ice cream plant down there to 947 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:11,560 actually make the recipe. So, until this up to that point they'd have just gone 948 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:14,560 through panels of what sounds like it would taste good and 949 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:18,000 what sounds like the story represents university. And 950 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,520 so they they needed some berries, so I got them some berries and 951 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:25,320 they did a wonderful job of making making ice cream, I can tell you. And 952 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:29,960 then they they went through the through the taste testing panels and all 953 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:33,640 of a sudden we get picked. So, they told us a few weeks ago that we were 954 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:38,080 selected, couldn't tell anybody, pretty well hush orders until they wanted to 955 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:41,440 air it themselves on channel 9 news. And so Friday we were at the state fair with 956 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,560 interviewing meet and greet with the president of the university and other 957 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,560 people that were involved in all this. And 958 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:52,160 it was it's been a pretty cool experience, but 959 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:57,280 so this ice cream is now available at the university campus, at the arboretum, 960 01:04:54,760 --> 01:05:01,760 and at all the football games. And I guess the really cool part that I can 961 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,920 add here is that every cup or gallon of that ice cream sold has berries in it 962 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,920 from McLeod County. So. 963 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,200 » Very good. >> Congratulations. 964 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:12,240 » Oh, thank you. >> Congratulations, Greg. 965 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:16,800 » Thank you, Commissioner I Congratulations. 966 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,040 Commissioner Doll. >> I can't even come close to this. 967 01:05:18,910 --> 01:05:23,760 » [laughter] >> You know, like okay, I'm good. 968 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:26,080 » a few years. You got a few years to get there though. No problem. [laughter] 969 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,320 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 970 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,560 » Yeah. So, on the 18th they had the workshop 971 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:35,760 here. Then afterwards attended the McLeod 972 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:39,680 Sibley Insurance meeting. Um 973 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:44,760 was present at at the raising opening of the fair 974 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:49,080 on Thursday in the morning there and then I did attend 975 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:53,240 I attended all three days with the hat and the shirt on McLeod County and then 976 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:57,480 my wife asked me to go incognito with her on Sunday. 977 01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:01,360 Which didn't change anything. Didn't Yeah, didn't change anything. 978 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,920 Um then on the 24th also had an insurance meeting. 979 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,920 Um That's the official stuff for the 980 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:12,960 county. On the unofficial side I always let 981 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:17,440 I like to let you know what I'm doing or thinking beforehand. So 982 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,600 and I've talked to Paul about this and I've talked to a few other people about 983 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,640 this. So I've been spending a little bit of time 984 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:30,640 with people that are spring spraying corn fields and bean fields and etc. 985 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:35,400 etc. with drones. So I'm getting more knowledge on that. Been doing a lot of 986 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:39,760 reading up on data centers. 987 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:45,520 Yeah, I you know, stuff and the the latest thing with uh 988 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:48,920 our our new small power plants and I don't know if you know 989 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:52,800 back in the day after I returned from the phone company I spent some time in 990 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:59,280 the mountains with horses doing things and just north and a little bit west 991 01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:03,760 of that area there's one of these power plants going in. It's very small in 992 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,760 nature and I'm 993 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,960 met Augie who graduated out of McLeod County is [clears throat] out there 994 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:14,080 » and uh >> asking a few questions and giving me 995 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:19,600 giving me some more information. So, to me that now that's via the mother, 996 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:24,120 obviously, but it's interesting that of what's going on in the world and how you 997 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:29,360 got to be prepared. And I know I've asked Mark, are we prepared for a data 998 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:33,800 center in McLeod County? And I think at some point in time it'd be wise just to 999 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,440 review where we're at and what are we ready 1000 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,520 for, you know. 1001 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,920 » Yeah. >> So, that we don't have to ask those 1002 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:46,000 questions of ourselves later. That's all I have. 1003 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:48,600 » Thank you, Commissioner Doll. Uh Commissioner Smalser. 1004 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:52,840 » Yeah, thanks, Commissioner Doll, for your report. Um 1005 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:58,440 after Tuesday's uh board meeting here on the 18th, uh we held a workshop. And 1006 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:04,160 then uh that uh afternoon, as uh Commissioner Doll mentioned, um we both 1007 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:07,960 sit on the um McLeod Sibley uh group health insurance committee. And uh we 1008 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:12,840 had a meeting here at the government center, where we are looking at, you 1009 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:17,759 know, options that possibly could save employees money. Um but we still are 1010 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:25,040 researching that and and seeking out further information on on those options. 1011 01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:30,680 And then on uh Wednesday the 19th, the uh I attended the employee pork chop uh 1012 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:35,600 dinner here in Glencoe at Oak Leaf Park. It looked like it was well attended and 1013 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:38,920 the food was fantastic. Thank you. Um 1014 01:08:36,759 --> 01:08:45,000 on Thursday the 20th, as Commissioner Doll stated, I as well uh attended um 1015 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:50,319 the flag raising at to open up the McLeod County Fair. 1016 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:57,799 Uh also spent uh most of my day there. And I will say um multiple many 1017 01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:02,960 compliments on our fair, how it's run. Um many comments very favorable about it 1018 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:06,720 being a fair. Um 1019 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:12,560 and everyone is very hopeful that we can keep that practice uh going. 1020 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:16,520 And um I also attended the fair on Saturday. Uh spent most of my day there. 1021 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,080 Um and uh 1022 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:23,080 I mean, when you look down the street, the crowds, the vendors, 1023 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:28,560 uh I would hope that everyone there had a had a a a good experience uh at the 1024 01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:33,440 McLeod County Fairgrounds. And I will say what impresses me the 1025 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:37,359 most uh when I'm at the fairgrounds is all the volunteers. 1026 01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:42,880 I can't imagine uh the workforce uh that uh they use um 1027 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:48,600 uh from the people directing you where to 1028 01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:52,359 park, uh people cleaning up. Um our staff here making sure the 1029 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:58,080 electricity is supplied, you know, to the people who need it. Um 1030 01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:01,360 it's just an awesome event and um and 1031 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:06,920 uh I thank everyone um for their volunteering to make that fair 1032 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,920 uh what it is today. 1033 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:16,400 Um on Monday, the 24th, uh the a follow-up again our um McLeod Sibley uh 1034 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:20,480 group insurance had a Zoom meeting where again we're researching some 1035 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:25,320 options that may save us uh save our employees uh a little bit of 1036 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:31,040 money uh moving forward. And then um 1037 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:37,120 I did a uh call to a uh resident uh in my district. Uh we were looking or his 1038 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:40,800 inquiry uh surrounded a um pet crossing that we have in the city of Winsted that 1039 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:45,280 is aged. And uh I got some background information 1040 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:50,160 on that and had a good discussion with that individual on um you know uh 1041 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:56,440 where where or what's needed in order to um 1042 01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:00,440 to upgrade that system that uh they presently have. 1043 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:05,200 Um Commissioner um 1044 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:09,320 mentioned earlier about consulting his district um 1045 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:15,040 representative, his appointee um on our planning and zoning board. Um 1046 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:19,040 So, Commissioner Krueger, I as well had a conversation with the representative 1047 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:23,360 that I appointed to the uh planning and zoning board uh with the 1048 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:27,640 important uh items that we had on our agenda this morning. Um I'm looking for 1049 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:31,760 that background information to try and make a good decision and also be 1050 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:35,960 sensitive uh to the people who are applying 1051 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:42,240 and also the people who have gone through the process and applied. 1052 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:46,520 So, um it was difficult, but I I'm comfortable with the decisions we made 1053 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:51,360 this morning uh looking at that one uh controversial uh conditional use. Uh and 1054 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:55,840 I hope that they can find a way. I mean, we always do say that we're we want to 1055 01:11:53,720 --> 01:12:00,800 be proactive business. We want to encourage that in the county and 1056 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:04,880 um but at the same time we have to honor those who have 1057 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:08,360 completed the process and followed all the timelines. 1058 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:12,360 So, uh that brings us to today. Thank you, Mr. 1059 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:17,200 » Mr. Smalley, before you end on the on the crosswalk, did you get any 1060 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:20,920 response from the city of Winsted? >> Um I have not talked to the city of 1061 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:28,360 Winsted, but I believe that they are aware of the um steps required on uh the 1062 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:32,080 crosswalks. Um I did have a conversation with their 1063 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:36,560 city engineer pertaining to the crosswalk uh issue. So, I believe 1064 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:42,160 there's an understanding there. I know that the call um that I took has had 1065 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:47,080 a conversation with the mayor of Winsted, and I believe that they all 1066 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:52,640 understand uh you know, the process uh and what will need to be done uh in case 1067 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:56,480 we uh get to the point where we're where we're improving that crosswalk. 1068 01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:01,120 » The reason I bring it up is I I've also had the calls over the last 1069 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:03,480 actually a couple years on the 1070 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,960 it happens to be that same one and others to be true. But talking with our 1071 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:12,640 engineer Andrew uh 1072 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:17,560 he he isn't dragging his feet but he is waiting for a response 1073 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,640 for I mean our uh 1074 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:24,800 our process is always then that there's an agreement between the city 1075 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:30,160 the city and the county when something like this is done and and they have not 1076 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:35,600 at the last time I checked had not yet reached out to Andrew and and cuz once 1077 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:39,200 that happens then we can you know 1078 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:43,000 put on more pressure whatever the case may be to get it done the right way. 1079 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:48,000 That's all I'm trying to add on but >> Yeah, thank you Commissioner uh for that 1080 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:51,240 inquiry and I and that's part of why I was um 1081 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,880 I was trying to get to resolution and understanding all the parties involved 1082 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,200 and I think we're there. I think the city understands that the request 1083 01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:05,760 originates with them. I think the resident who um does uh call me annually 1084 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:10,200 as well understands the process uh and where the request comes from. So I'm 1085 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,720 pretty satisfied with where it's at now um 1086 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:16,160 and uh thanks for your question. >> Thank you. 1087 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:22,320 Uh Commissioner Tresca. >> Um after our last meeting we held the 1088 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:28,240 workshop. Um and then on Wednesday I also attended 1089 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:31,600 the employee uh picnic out at the park and Hannah you guys did an excellent job 1090 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,840 again and it's always fun to see everybody there running here and there 1091 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,680 and everywhere. Um 1092 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:43,840 I was at the fair quite a bit 1093 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:47,320 Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Um again it was great. It was so fun to see the 1094 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:51,440 people. It was nice to see a bunch of our employees either just there or also 1095 01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:56,000 there was a lot of them that were working. I know in the 1096 01:14:53,920 --> 01:15:00,560 in the big building there there was people that were there from 1097 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:04,920 9:00 in the morning till 9:00 at night. And there was like 1098 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:08,760 I know Casey Stats was there every almost I think every hour that 1099 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,720 that building was open plus some. >> Yep. 1100 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:16,560 » And the veteran services and I mean it was it was so great to see all these 1101 01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:20,120 people there and showing you know the attendees of the fair whether 1102 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:23,160 they're county or not but um you know kind of the things that we 1103 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,480 have there and that and the they 1104 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:32,360 they take their time to sit there and talk to the people. So that was nice. Um 1105 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:35,600 last Wednesday the 26th you had the two items 1106 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,920 uh that we spent quite a bit of time on. Usually it doesn't take us an hour and a 1107 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:42,720 half to discuss two items at planning but they were both 1108 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:47,120 you know we had lots of discussion um and I appreciate you guys checking with 1109 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:50,880 your rep from that board. I think those guys do a really good job most of them 1110 01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:55,960 um have been on there for quite some time and uh I think Dan is fitting in 1111 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,400 well as he's got some background in that stuff too. 1112 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,960 » Yeah. >> Um 1113 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,240 last Thursday [clears throat] the 27th I had a UCAT meeting that I attended via 1114 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,920 Zoom. Um pretty much the same stuff going 1115 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,360 forward. Um they're getting into the heating season 1116 01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:13,920 there so they're you know finishing out the current year and then getting ready 1117 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:18,320 for the the new one coming up and of course they are you know had to talk on 1118 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:22,200 their benefits as well. The increase in their insurance rates and what to add 1119 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:26,800 and what to not add um just like everybody else's with the new 1120 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:31,440 with the new uh year coming up so um and that brings us 1121 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,640 to today. >> Thank you Commissioner Attorney's 1122 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:37,720 Office. >> Uh thank you. I I would just add that I 1123 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,880 I was at the fair each day as well. My office has has a booth there that we 1124 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:44,920 maintain um and just echo all of the positive 1125 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:48,200 com- comments. I mean, we I talked to an awful lot of folks to the point where my 1126 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:52,040 voice was running out, which takes something by Sunday. 1127 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:57,280 Um, and and it was almost, you know, without exception positive. So, um, 1128 01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:00,920 yeah, it was great fair and, you know, it was good opportunity to see those 1129 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:04,400 that stop out and a lot of comments about the the free part of that fair and 1130 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:09,080 a lot of inquiries of if that can be maintained moving forward and, uh, 1131 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:13,440 you know, so, but otherwise, yeah, it was it was a it was a great weekend. 1132 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:17,320 » Thank you. And then before I go to the administrator, I I did not comment on 1133 01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:20,800 the fair. I could say it was by design, but I 1134 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:25,560 I I didn't and but I I let the all the rest of the commissioners I would echo 1135 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:28,240 what they said. I but I do, um, I I 1136 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:34,160 I want to send out a a super congrats to Paul because 1137 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:38,080 he didn't talk about all the years of out there working on his zirconia 1138 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:42,480 berries and and, uh, I mean, he's he's I mean, I 1139 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:48,160 didn't know it till I met him that he had that and I mean, that's 1140 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:51,000 not just for him, but for there's a lot of people, I think, in our county 1141 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,920 whether they're small businesses or small farmers 1142 01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:59,320 that are working behind the scenes that they don't, you know, some may fail. I'm 1143 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,840 just so glad that he's he's stayed with it and, uh, um, 1144 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:07,920 get somewhere. I I hope it it really pays off for him. 1145 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,160 It does for the county. I'm I'm proud to say that for the county and and 1146 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:16,600 especially when you have a sitting commissioner that's able to, uh, 1147 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:21,920 advertise as he does, but, uh, and then I, uh, I I spend all 1148 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:26,880 I spend every day at the fair, too, and not not necessarily very long. Um, 1149 01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:31,120 I think this year I probably, uh, did something I don't normally do. I 1150 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:36,080 I people watched. I mainly because I I don't get around as 1151 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:39,840 good as I did. I did make the Lori kept an eye on me. I did make the circle on 1152 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:44,520 the on the veterans parade on Thursday night, but I did did make it. Anyway, uh 1153 01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:49,360 um I think uh 1154 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:54,360 we've all commented on the free part of the fair, but I I just watching people 1155 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:57,960 uh and I don't want to be judgmental, but there was so many people there that 1156 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:01,320 I don't think would have been able to be there 1157 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:05,480 if it wasn't free. And that made me proud. I mean, there was uh 1158 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:10,560 uh families and I think they come two or 1159 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:15,120 three times a day. I I um I was really surprised because it was a 1160 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:19,480 steady crowd from what I've seen. And I checked with um volunteers again 1161 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:23,600 that we we thank very much, but the numbers, the 1162 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:31,080 counts they were getting were higher than I thought they were. 1163 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:35,520 But and I too got questions um of keeping it keeping it free, and 1164 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:39,120 that's our full intentions to do that. And um 1165 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:45,400 uh I also um 1166 01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:49,800 I I I also was there on Sunday afternoon to present colors for uh Beyond the 1167 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:53,560 Yellow Ribbon. Um good program. Um 1168 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,680 a full s- full sold out a crowd for the demo demo 1169 01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:02,680 derby and very very respectful crowd to to the 1170 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,920 veterans. Um 1171 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,920 and uh 1172 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:16,560 I guess that's all I Oh, I I wanted to another big thank you to all the 1173 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:20,000 the businesses and individuals that attended the 4-H auction. I mean, I'm 1174 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:25,760 just I'm I'm glad, thankful that there are 1175 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:30,720 people out there that um that make that a success. I mean, it's 1176 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:37,200 uh something that we didn't really have when I was a kid in in 4-H. It goes to 1177 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:43,240 help further these kids' education and hopefully 1178 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:47,720 gives other members of 4-H a um 1179 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:52,120 a drive to succeed or to to be a better in a 1180 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:54,800 25% of the I believe I'm right 25% of the 1181 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:59,360 uh the premiums from the auction go to the federation 1182 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:04,280 and and and I mean that is a real kick for the federation when you look at 1183 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:08,760 I I didn't hear a total tabulation of the auction, but it's uh 1184 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:14,000 it's it's very good and I'm glad that these businesses reach out and can do 1185 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:18,560 that. And I guess that's that's all I have uh 1186 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:21,400 turn it over to Sheila, the administrator. 1187 01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:25,960 » Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioner Wright, I don't remember you mentioning 1188 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,560 the the award that your family received at the fair, as well. Did you? 1189 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:34,280 The champion dairy herdsmanship? 1190 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:38,960 » Yeah, the trophy. Um I think we're at year 22 out of 26 for the 1191 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:42,600 grand champion herdsmanship at the county fair, so. 1192 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:47,200 A lot a lot of work with the broom, keeping it clean and being friendly, so. 1193 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:52,560 » I think the most impressive part of seeing that post was seeing um your very 1194 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,960 adult kids. >> Yeah, they all keep coming back and 1195 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,640 helping, so I'm pretty pretty fortunate there, so. 1196 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:03,040 » Thank you. I'll go to the agenda item A. This is 1197 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:07,880 just a notification and I want to focus on that. This doesn't require a vote. 1198 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:11,240 Um and this doesn't require any changes from McLeod County because this is 1199 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:17,320 already within what we are doing at our courthouse and law enforcement center. 1200 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,320 However, the state updated 1201 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,800 They update I don't even know what to call it, but I'm going to read it to you 1202 01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:28,960 and they updated their policy and um it does apply to us, so. But it 1203 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:33,080 does not create any change. Notification of the updated statewide 1204 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:38,640 order that prohibits firearms and other weapons on Minnesota court facilities 1205 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:43,440 beginning September 1, 2026 today. Firearms and other weapons will be 1206 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:47,480 prohibited in court occupied areas and other facilities used for official court 1207 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:52,280 business throughout Minnesota under a new order signed by Chief Justice 1208 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:56,720 Natalie E. Hudson. And I won't expand on that. The rest of the information is in 1209 01:22:54,160 --> 01:23:01,200 the agenda for you to read either um online in print or and it is also 1210 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:06,440 posted at the courthouse and trends and this does not make any changes. 1211 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:12,040 Item B, notification of board workshop following the board meeting on Tuesday, 1212 01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:17,320 September 15, 2026 here at the McLeod County Government Center, 520 Chandler 1213 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:20,080 Avenue North, Glencoe, Minnesota. That's all I have. 1214 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,520 » Um all right, I'm going to jump ahead here a little bit. We do have a closed 1215 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,360 meeting at I'm jumping ahead a little bit. Um we do 1216 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:32,080 have a closed meeting following the reason we set it this way is because 1217 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:37,400 it's for the convenience of our meeting um 1218 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:42,280 for the press and anybody that's here. Um 1219 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:45,920 uh but at any rate uh that's that is why there's no other reason that it's at the 1220 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:50,280 end of the meeting other than for the convenience of it and we 1221 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:53,480 will come back uh 1222 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:57,080 after the closed meeting. Um 1223 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,640 is there anything else that needs to come 1224 01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:02,840 before the Board of Commissioners for the good of McLeod County? 1225 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:09,600 Hearing none, open forum, anybody wishing to 1226 01:24:07,480 --> 01:24:14,800 address the board? We had someone here and they disappeared. 1227 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:20,000 Um press relations, press, do you have any questions, comments? 1228 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,640 » Thank you. Then I'll go into the next item. 1229 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:25,240 » Yes. >> Thank you. 1230 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:28,880 So our next item is a closed meeting, item A, closed meeting to discuss county 1231 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:34,920 real estate pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.05, 1232 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:38,840 subdivision 3C. And then we would, as Commissioner 1233 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:44,168 Krueger said, we will come back after that. 1234 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,640 » I'll entertain a motion to go into >> [clears throat] 1235 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,080 » closed meeting. >> I I will move we go into closed meeting. 1236 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,680 » Motion Motion made by Commissioner Small, second? 1237 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:56,480 » Second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Chaska. Uh 1238 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,480 we 1239 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:05,320 We will We'll enter the closed session at 10:30. That gives us 5 minutes to 1240 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,320 take a little bit of a break here. 1241 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,320 » Are we staying in this room or are we moving? 1242 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:12,560 » No, we'll stay here. >> Okay.