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» Thank you, Steve.

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That's good.

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Hey, Will. Will
it be easier to move these rolling

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chairs in there?
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Coming.

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little extra notice. I got it.

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It's about
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20 22 years old.

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We sat down to go down

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the hole in there.

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There's a couple

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[laughter]

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We're interested.

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Participation.

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Oh, you're not going to hurt

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people in

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we had a meeting
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Good afternoon everybody.
>> Um I call this order to meeting uh this

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regular this regular meeting to order
>> for Meadow Lake City Council. It is uh

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5:02 p.m. on Tuesday, August 18th. Miss
Solzano will lead us in a roll call.

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» Council member Johnson
>> here.

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» Thank you. All right. If you would
please stand with me for the pledge of

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allegiance followed by a
>> prayer

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation
indivisible

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for all.
>> All right if you'll please bow your

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heads.
>> Heavenly father thank you for giving us

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this day. Thank you for the opportunity
to come together to discuss the issues

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concerning our city. We ask that you
give us wisdom and patience as we work

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through the task at hand and that each
of the leaders here that make up the

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council uses his or her best judgment
for the good of the citizens that we

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serve. Please bless those among us who
are struggling with sickness and we ask

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for your healing and hand upon them. We
also ask that you please be with our

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leaders who govern our state and nation
and that you give them guidance, safety

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that they may be led to seek you in
Jesus name. Amen.

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» Amen.

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» All right. If there are any citizen
comments, now is the time.

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Anyone sign up? Okay.
All right. Moving on. We're going to

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change the order of the agenda just a
little bit because I know we have a lot

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to cover tonight. Um, one of the
presentations that we have is probably

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going to the longest. And so we're going
to move that up to the front. And that

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is item 6A under new business, the uh
presentation of the Metal Leaks Golf

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Course Advisory Board. Um and I'm going
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to lead that. All right. Uh Brent, are
you prepared?

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So this has been
a work in progress up until now. Uh

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Brent and the rest of the advisory board
have put in hundreds of hours for free

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trying to help us figure out how to make
our golf course even better than it

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currently is. Um
some criticisms

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may not want to be heard by some people
and uh I think it's important that we

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all come in with an open mind and see
what their insights are and how we can

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move forward from here. So without that,
I'll let Brent go ahead.

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Yes, sir.

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» Is a guideline for the city to improve
our golf course. It's not to make

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comments that some people think may be
offended by or that they should uh take

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exception to. So, I take exception to
the comment that you made about people

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being possibly being offended because
that's not what this is about. Okay.

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» I I understand agree with you.
>> All right.

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» You got your clicker.
>> Yes, I do. Thank you. All right. Good

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evening. That sounds wild. So, good
evening. Good to see you all. Thanks for

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having me back um from last month. Um, I
will tell you that I appreciate you

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recognizing this is going to take some
time and um, so as Jerry Reid would say,

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got a long way to go and short time to
get there. So, let's get started.

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So, I just want to give you an outline
of the presentation. I'm going to tell

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you a little bit about the mission
statement that I mentioned uh, that we

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talked about last month and give you the
assessment of the operations that we

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have done so far. Then I got some
comparisons to other courses just for

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additional data points and then our
recommendations. Um a lot of those that

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u would ask us to provide tonight. So
we're not done with all that. The

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assessments we really have in three
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the core stewardship, and the
irrigation. So at the end I'm hoping

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I'll have enough time to give you a
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we're going to be talking about
presenting to you in September. I'm not

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going to go into a lot of detail on that
one slide. All right. So, our mission

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statement, if you recall from last
month, was to assess the operations to

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identify priorities and deliver some
actionable recommendations. So, on the

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assessing part, we have uh gone through
and looked at the infrastructure and the

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operations in these areas. We've
examined the operations and the

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procedures. We've analyzed point of sale
records, 24,000 entries from last

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October until July of this year. Um, and
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wanted to know a little bit more. So, we
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the beginning of October of 2023
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as far as identifying priorities, we
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um pointed out. That was one of the
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addition to that, we conducted area
course interviews for comparison. We

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looked at the courses around here that
get played. Um, particularly, if you

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recall last month, the the top courses
that people were interested in playing

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in was Delaware Springs and Legend. So,
you'll hear me reference them throughout

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this uh presentation because those are
some of the ones that people really

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like. And finally, as far as the
deliverable action noble

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recommendations, [snorts]
um I don't have a check mark there. We

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have some tonight, but we are not done
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areas that we're assessing, I mentioned
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management, the core stewardship and
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the financial management because we feel
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operations has to do with the financial
management. And you'll see what I'm

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talking about as I go through.
Primarily, we're looking at the lost

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revenue examples. I'm going to focus
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I'll explain more of that in just a
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then we have other examples that I won't
go into as much detail. [snorts] Uh we

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feel that the financial management has
had a lack of decision making on a cost

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benefit analysis basis and that there's
not been consistent accounting

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processes. Um so a business can be run
this way. It can pass an IRS audit. It

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just can't be run well. And the golf
course is a business. So, here's kind of

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how we look at things. Um, the big green
piece of the pie are all the paid rounds

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of golf that were through the data that
we looked at. So, that includes

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memberships, punch cards, people phoning
in or walking in, that's the public

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part, and the golf now paid um online um
rounds. And in addition, but what you

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see from that is that almost 30% of the
rounds that are played at Hidden Falls

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are at a significantly discounted rate.
9% of them bring in no money whatsoever

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to the golf course. Another 9% average
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and another 3% that are zero as well.
So, when you look at that, I need to

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explain to you what this Excuse [snorts]
me, I got getting over a cold. Um, the

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Golf Now hot deals. So, what Golf Now is
is they're a business. They're

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interested in trying to make money
obviously. And how they do that is they

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provide services that we subscribe to.
And then in exchange for that, they say,

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"Okay, it's a barter system. You
negotiate and say, we'll do this for

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you." So they provide an online booking
service for us. We're actually they

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provided the hardware that's in the pro
shop. Um and then you know they do

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marketing and whatever and some of their
ever other services. Well the thing is

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in exchange for that is that we give up
tea times and all the revenue for those

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tea times they keep 100% of it. Okay. So
you you are you barter with them and say

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well how many tea times are you going to
take from us or how many are we going to

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let you take from us? Well, we gave them
$122,000

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worth um is what we're looking at for
the loss revenue [snorts] on Groupon

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vouchers. Groupon, as you probably
aware, is a deal that you can buy on

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Groupon. You get a significantly
discounted rate. And then what happens

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is when someone comes in with a Groupon
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redeemed, when it gets redeemed, then
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[snorts] Okay. um the rest of the money
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making about $13 a round on group
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$75,000.
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rounds, um obviously that's
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The trouble was is when we showed the
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the names on that complimentary employee
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as employees. So that means a total loss
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through 288 days is 216,000

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of lost revenue.

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As I say we went back two more years
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maybe this year was just an anomaly. So,
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almost $200,000 a year.
I'm going to go into the golf round

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details because to explain this a little
bit more. So you can see that we've had

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4,200 rounds, which is about 19% of the
total rounds [snorts]

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um through July that were golf now
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2172 are ones that were paid for that we
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$100,000.
That works out to less than $46 a round,

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which is a pretty that's already
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48, weekends are 57. So, you can see
that the discounted rate, I'm not even

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factoring that money really in, but
we're losing money there. But almost the

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same number we're hot deals, right? We
get no money for. It's not hard to see

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the math. You take that golf now rate,
not even our rate, the golf now rate,

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multiply it for those number rounds,
that's $96,000 for $288,

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which comes out to 122,000 for the year
when you extract it out. So this is

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everything. As I say, the hot deals are
negotiated.

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[snorts] So you can see the Atlanta
River on a weekly basis gives up seven

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hot deals, one per day. Same with
Delaware Springs. Lighthouse does two a

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day. Legends, the guy at Legends used to
use golf, now they don't. Okay. And then

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you see over there the 25 for Hidden
Falls. Our contract says that we give

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them three a day. The reason that's 25
this past week is because part of their

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deal is is well, if not all of them get
used one week, we're going to roll them

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over to the next week. So, we gave 25
hot dealers away this last week. Um on

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Saturday and Sunday again, Lano River,
Delaware Springs are giving one each

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day. Saturday and Sunday, Loud House
Lighthouse is giving two each day. We

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gave seven away on the weekend.
Then when you look at the hot deals at

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41:00, I used to use hot deals, you
know, when I was playing golf, starting

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to play, and I recognized that by
getting a hot deal, I was probably going

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to be playing at a not so great time.
That's generally what you do is you give

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them the the slow times and and
whatever. And you can see that no other

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course has a hot deal before 11:00. We
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9:30, 10:00. [snorts]
So the thing of it is is what happens

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with the hot deals is not only the
money, but the people playing on those

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hot deals are typically beginners and
they're slow. They're not only hitting

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the ball a bunch of times, they spend a
lot of time looking for the ball, which

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means that everybody behind them is
getting backed up. So that's nothing to

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do with finances. It's just one of the
problems of putting hot deals at 11

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before 11:00. So I talked to one golf
manager and said, "It's important that

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you understand the value of your tea
times." Well, clearly the most popular

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tea times are going to be the highest
value, and that's going to be mornings

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and weekends. And you can see what we've
given away. So, when I talked to the

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we've had a meeting with the golf now
salesperson and we were telling him

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about how it's costing us a lot of money
and told him about $100,000. He said,

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"Oh, well, you know, you know, you can't
take that into account because there's

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days of loss because of weather and
whatever." I said, "You're exactly

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right. You know, it isn't $100,000.
It's $212,000.

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If we took all of our weekday hot deals
at our normal rate and our weekend hot

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deals at our weekend rate and you
multiply those out, it's over 200,000.

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So, yeah. [snorts]
So, here's the thing with golf. Now, I'm

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going back to this slide, and you can
see I've pulled out that wedge. The

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green one, the 2172 is what I referred
to before, is the rounds that have been

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paid for that we got money on. The red
slice is what we don't get any money

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for. Combined, that's 19% of all of our
rounds. So, Hot Golf Now talks about how

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wonderful they are and how much they
help golf courses, right? Four out of

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five people that are playing here aren't
using their services. I want to read you

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something just real quickly from the
Golf Business Weekly. It says, "As golf

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owners and operators continue to
evaluate, more and more golf courses are

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looking at golf now. For years, they've
listened to Golf Now talk about their

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monumental impact on adding rounds.
However, these golf courses are

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realizing it's a one-sided relationship
and does not necessarily reflect the

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right path for their business. And you
can see why

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we're not getting that much for them.
Half of the rounds that we are booked,

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we're not getting anything for. That
leaves the other less than 10% that

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we're getting any money for. So, you
have to wonder, is that a good return on

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your investment? Are the benefits that
we're getting worth the cost of those

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benefits? And will um and Linda Puchion
and I have met with the sales

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representative once and I appreciate
Will said, "Well, we're we're evaluating

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our options." And so, um, there was a
contract that was signed back in April

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of 2026 that Will wasn't aware of that
now we're talking to the guy about

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changing because that's committed us to
2028.

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» Yeah. So, that was something he wasn't
aware of. I'm looking at your all faces.

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I guess you weren't aware of it either.
So, we're looking at seeing what we can

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do because they obviously want to keep
our business, but um, I'm not too

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thrilled with it right now. All right.
[snorts] On Groupon, as I say, Groupon,

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that's typically for new businesses
trying to get attract new customers that

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they hope come back and pay a regular
price, right? So, Hidden Falls had 2100

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rounds of Groupon vouchers as well in
those 288 days. Generated $32,000 of

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revenue, but at our weekday rate, that
would have been $103,000.

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Worse, those vouchers offered a round
for four players to pay all four for a

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total of $120 on a weekend. Those four
players at our normal weekday rate would

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have been $228. That's a 47% discount.
So, Hidden Falls is suspending Groupon,

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glad to say, but the reason given was
not due to lost revenue.

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Um, continuing on with some of the lost
revenue, the other days, other courses I

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mentioned, Delaware Springs and Legends,
they each close two days a year and it's

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for aation of their greens. Of course,
you know, we're closed the first Monday

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of every month, plus every Monday
morning until about 10 o'clock. Both

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Delaware and Legends host tournaments as
we do, but neither one of them close

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their course for the day when they have
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They have a tournament in the morning.
They open up the tea sheet that

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afternoon. Or they say, "Oh, your
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because we got tea times in the
morning." [snorts]

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Their tournaments charge premium rates
when they do have a tournament. As a

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result, Delaware Springs tournament
revenue was $35,000

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last year. Ours was 35,000.
Additional lost revenue. These are

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things that we know about. I'm not going
into detail because I've already given

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you a lot of detail. Um, and the other
thing is we're data driven. This board

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is not just pulling numbers out of the
air. We're giving you data and we don't

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have data. We just know. People have
told us, people on the board have know

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some of these things firsthand. So, I'm
not going to go into all of that. The

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only thing I will highlight is this
unpunched punch card deal is we've

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continued to dig and whatever. Just
today, we finally have some numbers to

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go with that. Um, and it's going to be
part of my recommendations, but we're

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figuring that that's another it's been
about $150,000 over the last three

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years. So, roughly another $50,000 lost
revenue you can add to what I told you

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before. [snorts]
Talking about range balls is one of the

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items we have for there. It's hard to
figure out how much we're losing for

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that. I have uh up here that you can see
that pretty much all the golf courses in

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the area make about $25,000 a year. The
number in those bars are how much

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they're charging for their baskets of
balls. The outlier is legends. And when

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I talked to that guy, he says what
happens on the weekends is they have

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players that come out and they buy this
biggest basket they could get. He feels

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like if he had a bigger basket they
could sell for 20, they'd probably do

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it. But uh anyway, they're making a lot
of money on their their range. Um we're

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kind of lagging behind. Price per
basket's not terribly far off, but you

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know, we're $10,000 a year behind
everybody else, which, you know, and

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we've looked in the point of sales data.
We [snorts] know that people are buying

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small and large baskets. We see it.
What's amazing is that the range balls

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are included in the membership price in
punch cards and then the golf now book

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lines. So, why anybody is paying money
for them when the the balls are right

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out there in the front of the pro shop
and the baskets in the pro shop? It's

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amazing. we made $15,000.
This was something regarded to the the

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range memberships that we have. Uh we
charge $50 a month for someone to be a

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range member and then they get a play
supposedly twice a week for $20 which

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includes the cart. [snorts] Well,
other places Lighthouse has what they

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call a player development plan. You can
pay 40 bucks for unlimited range balls.

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You want to play golf? Well, you can
play after one:00 with a 10% discount.

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We're allowing you to play anytime you
want. Morning, weekends, $20.

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Delaware Springs, on the other hand,
they charge $60 for their player

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development plan. And you want to play
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[snorts]
So, the financial management

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consequences with the amount of annual
loss revenue that I've just demonstrated

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to you, Metal Lakes would have been able
to hire a full-times ground

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superintendent, would have been able to
purchase the capital equipment we need

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like an air raator machine and mowers,
would have been able to buy supplies for

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sand and chemicals that we need to
maintain the course, would have been

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able to create a capital fund for golf
cart fleet replacement because the golf

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carts do need to be replaced. And if you
had money set aside every year into a

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fund when they need to be replaced,
you'd say, "Boom, we have the money to

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do it." Instead of scrambling saying,
"How are we going to fit that into the

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budget?" [snorts] So the $50,000 that
you all transfer from the general fund

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to the recreation fund, that's just
insufficient to cover the lost revenue.

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Let's move on to core stewardship. So
the USGA Aronomous report echoed our

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results, the survey results I presented
to you last month. the fact that the

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greens need to be airrated and top
dressed with sand. Pre-emergent needs to

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be applied at the proper time using the
right chemicals. Tea markers need to be

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moved frequently.
All that we pretty much knew. He

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confirmed it. But he also the beauty of
the report and for those you have seen

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it, it provided the specific steps to
correct the conditions that we do have

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and the fact that the greens can be
restored. They're in bad shape, but he's

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seen worse. So we can we can have hope.
And he also debunked the claim that

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arration work won't work in our clay
soil. He dug up we saw the samples. We

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were walking around with him and
remember he said your native soil isn't

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that bad and the way the greens are set
up they got good drainage. Says they

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just need to be properly taken care of.
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Um so the golf board itself we had what
our key takeaways were and obviously we

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recognized the urgent need for a ground
superintendent to do the aeration and

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the sanding and to apply herbicides with
a plan a pre and postemergent plan and

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that there's a lack of management
processes. In other words, we don't have

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signs. We don't do anything enforcing
the golf cart traffic and tea boxes. Um

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he said that our irrigation system is a
high priority. That's what we recognize,

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but it's not the root cause. We could
get a brand new irrigation system. If we

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don't take care of our greens and tea
boxes, we're going to have the same

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mess. If we don't have the irrigation
system, ultimately then the golf course

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is going to be in trouble. But it's not
going to be the panacea that solves all

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of our ills. [snorts] Some general
comments that he had to say that the

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course has a nice layout. He was
impressed. He says it's just had a lack

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of attention to detail for quite a
while. the practice range. He said

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that's a positive amenity. Not all Golf
courses have that. He says that's a

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great thing and it's an opportunity to
generate additional revenue. He said

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successful management of any golf course
in Central Texas employs a dedicated,

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educated, experienced golf course
superintendent. Just got to.

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So, let's look at our staffing
situation. And these numbers are what I

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had from you like a month ago. So
they're going to change somewhat, but

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it's similar number to what we have in
other cases courses around here. Okay.

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So it didn't like we're way ahead or way
behind in that. Loan River um does have

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a hands-on consultant. He isn't a
full-time employee. He's not an official

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superintendent, but he does a great job
out there. We don't have a ground

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superintendent. So this slide just shows
the relatively number of of full-time

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employees in Gle green, part-time in
blue. You can see that Hidden Falls has

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approximately the same no not really
significantly less basically more than

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everybody except maybe Lighthouse. Um
the one thing that's missing you see is

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there's no orange bar for hidden falls.
We don't have a superintendent.

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Um on course sewage step some other
comments you said that excessive thatch

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and organic matter accumulation is a
result of insufficient aeration and sand

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top dressing for many years. It's not a
recent phenomenon. The regular sand top

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dressing has not been a consistent part
of the greens management. That was

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evident. He said two markers should be
moved at least every other day and daily

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when play exceeds 150 rounds the
previous day. That was a suggestion

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given to the pro shop three years ago.
That still hadn't happened. He says

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there's a handful of red tes that are
undersized and require leveling.

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Particularly number eight I have in
[clears throat] red because number eight

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inexplicably the gold T's are mashed up
there with the red T's. It's a small tea

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box in the first place and you got all
the women and all the guys that are

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playing gold and all the guys playing
red hitting from an area that's about as

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big as half the distance from me to Mr.
Wood. Um no reason for the gold TE's to

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be that far up. Anyway, the pretty much
all those where you have red T's that

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are separate, they're too small. They
need to be leveled. They need to be

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expanded so you have room to to move the
T- markers around. [snorts] Uh

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continuing on, he said if there has been
a pre-emergent program, it's not been

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effective on par three holes. Carts
should be restricted to the cart path

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entirely whole. Gosh, like we've never
heard that before. Every other course

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around here that you ever play, there's
always car path only on par threes.

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It's a common rule. We don't enforce
that. There's no signs. There's no

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enforcement. On all other holes other
than the par 3es, golfers should be

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directed to return to the cart path
approximately 30 yards from the putting

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green. And I say directed, that means
with signs and having marshals that

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interact with violators. Okay? [snorts]
We don't do that. We don't have anything

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going on. That's why people drive all
over the place. on this unrestricted go

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cart traffic. He said he saw a lot of
that and going on is that this excessive

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cart traffic increases the soil
compaction, accelerates turf wear,

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diminishes the playing conditions, all
common sense. And weeds thrive on

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compacted soil. He says we need to
implement a comprehensive gar golf cart

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traffic management program consisting of
improved signage. How about just some

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signs period? golfer education and
consistent enforcement.

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So, I will tell you that the regular
morning groups, the MGA, the Romeos, the

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WGA and LJ, they've all been emailed,
let's set the example. Let's lead by

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example. All right, let's not be part of
the problem. We'd like to get the WSY

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scramble scramble group to do the same
thing. Um the the his report gives a lot

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of instructions. I'm not going to go
into that. It's not gerine to my

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presentation what we're talking about.
It's just the fact that he provided all

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these instructions on how to airate, how
to sand, how to use what chemicals, what

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equipment. That's all in his report. So,
you know, that's that's a great thing to

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have for when we get a ground
superintendent.

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All right. A few things about other
courses. Delaware Springs you hear, gets

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a lot of money from the city of
Bernardet. I hear that all the time.

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It's false.
I talked to the guy. He said as long as

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he's been there, they haven't received
any money from the city. Um, and the

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reason is because they operate $170 thou
$171,000 above their expenses. And they

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just, you may have seen the the article
where they're just recently raising

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their prices because they [snorts] have
such so much play that they're going to

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increase their prices. Anyway, you know,
when I I got to say when I first started

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playing guitar 13 years ago, Hidden
Falls and Delaware Springs are about on

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par with each other. They're about the
same course conditions and played about

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the same paid about the same rate. Okay.
12 or 13 years ago. And in the last

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decade, ours has went like this and
theirs is now. You can find online. I

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was looking at top municipal courses in
the state of Texas. One place had

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Delaware Springs as number 12 in the
state.

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Lo River's annual expenses are $254,000
less than our annual expenses. And

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they've got better greens.
And I would argue even better fairways.

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Now, I will tell you their cart pads are
like a a a cow trail, you know, and

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their their cart pad I mean their carts
themselves are noisy and dirty and you

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know, but they get me from one green to
the next tea box. So, I'll do that

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because I love playing on their greens.
[snorts] Hidden Falls is the only course

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with the price range of ball the range
balls baked into the green fees. We're

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the only ones that do that. So that's
lost revenue. Plus, guess what? Stolen

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balls. We know,
>> Miss Richmond. You've seen it firsthand.

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Yes, sir. People loading up with range
balls and going out and playing. I know

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because I live on the golf course. I see
a bunch of range balls off the number

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18T.
Hidden Falls is the only course that

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hasn't kept rental cart keys in the
check-in counter.

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Okay, I say hasn't. They've moved them
inside now. But what was happening

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before is that golfers could avoid
doubling up. I've mentioned Delaware

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Springs. A lot of courses Delaware
Springs has a has a starter. So when you

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go up there and start to play and you
show up and you're a single and there's

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another guy that's a single, they say,
"You guys need to double up. We'll take

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the cart back." We don't do that. Um,
one of the problems is that it's enabled

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players to grab a cart and go free. This
has really been bad lately because we

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now start on number 10. So people know
the carts had keys in them. They could

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come from the parking lot, grab a cart,
go get their bag, and just trundle on

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over to number 10 and play. At least now
they have to go into the pro shop to get

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a a key. But we're still not doing
anything to avoid doubling up. And with

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all these extra carts on the course,
obviously it's more wear and tear on the

405
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:59,920
course because you're putting more out
there to be used and it puts more wear

406
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:03,280
and tear on the course itself. So, as I
say, the cart keys are now in the pro

407
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:07,440
shop, but guess what? Here's three
golfers and those are three rental

408
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,349
carts. This was just this past Sunday
morning. [snorts]

409
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,160
All right. Most other courses desire to
have marshals. That was one of the wish

410
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:21,200
lists thereby I talked to. Delaware
Springs does have a Marshall program.

411
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:26,960
They don't pay them. They're 21 uh
volunteers. Um they have to work so many

412
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:30,319
hours to be able to get golf. But um you
go play Delaware Springs, you're going

413
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:35,520
to have a starter and you're going to
run to Marshall at least once. And if

414
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:39,839
you get off a part a c a hole that's
cart path only, they're there to tell

415
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,359
you. And they're also checking the the
pace of play. They'll ask you say, "What

416
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:49,594
time did you start?" You know, and
they're checking. Uh we hired a marshall

417
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:53,520
for 12 hours a week. There he is.
[snorts]

418
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:58,400
» It's a presence without interaction or
enforcement. So this was out of the the

419
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:02,240
newspaper. This is what Mr. Clattz had
to say. If people see a Marshall out

420
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:07,200
there, they're not going to go out
cutting donuts somewhere and screwing

421
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:11,040
things up. [snorts] Well, I don't see
people cutting donuts, but I what I do

422
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:16,319
see is players driving their carts near
the tea boxes and the edge of the greens

423
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:21,680
because that guy isn't doing anything
but just being a presence. He is not

424
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:26,720
really supposed to talk to anybody. So,
this was last weekend as well. Those

425
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:31,119
four guys are probably mid 20s. drove
right up to onto the edge of the green.

426
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:35,040
That's number 15. It's a par three.
Should have been on car path only.

427
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:42,200
Certainly shouldn't be up by the green.
In contrast to this gentleman, Mr. Glenn

428
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:42,200
Slay, he turns 92 in October.

429
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:52,480
» He He's my hero. He still parks his cart
on the cart path and walks all the way

430
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,000
up to the tea box and to all the greens.
Maybe that's why he's still playing when

431
00:43:54,079 --> 00:44:00,000
he's 92.
All right, last couple of things on this

432
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,920
Hidden Falls Pro Shop. The full-time
staff is similar to other courses. The

433
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,240
part-time staff is a little bit more.
[snorts] Um, you can see here it is.

434
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:12,880
We've got 12 people. And and I will just
say that this is not hours. This is just

435
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:17,520
employees, right? So, I don't know,
maybe the 12 they're working part-time

436
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:22,319
is the same number of hours as those at
other golf course. All I know is that

437
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:27,119
there were 12 on the payroll. [snorts]
Last thing on the assessments of

438
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:31,839
irrigation, not a whole lot on this, we
we know that the current system has

439
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:35,839
exceeded its expected lifetime. Um
there's evidence of limited upgrades in

440
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:41,359
the course, but not enough. Um there's
standing water on the course. We know he

441
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,960
said that the PVC pipes, they after a
while, particularly in this clay soil,

442
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:49,440
they are going to end up shifting and
moving and connections break or they um

443
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,760
and they're a problem. So we have leaks.
And then other areas where the hydraulic

444
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:57,119
control was fail and in and overwater
areas. [snorts] Nothing that we didn't

445
00:44:55,359 --> 00:45:00,960
really already know. But he did say that
the pump house is operating with the

446
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,800
pressure on the system. He's been places
where they couldn't run the pump house

447
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,640
because if they did it would be spewing
water all over every place. So they only

448
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,599
turn the pump house on when they begin
to irrigate and then they turn it back

449
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,680
off or otherwise we'll have a real mess.
We don't have that problem at least not

450
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:20,240
yet. Um and then this is just the
details. Replace what we've got with HDP

451
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:24,560
piping. put in the electric valves and
computerized control all of that's in

452
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:30,800
his report. So those that's the summary
of those three categories. Um so let me

453
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:35,359
just um close it out. The summary is
that the financial management has cost

454
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:39,440
the city at least 150,000 a year and
with the punch cards not being punched

455
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:44,000
that's probably closer to 200,000 a
year. Um this loss revenue has a

456
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:49,119
cascading negative impact on all the
operations. uh the decisions as I said

457
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:54,800
is not really on a cost bas cost benefit
basis and we're not valuing the premium

458
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:59,440
tea times uh core stewardship the
ongoing deterioration of playing

459
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:03,520
conditions we know that um he we
acknowledge that a knowledgeable person

460
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:07,599
a knowledgeable grounds person is
absolutely critical um and then there's

461
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:11,839
an apparent unwillingness to develop or
enforce policies and procedures in order

462
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:16,640
to protect this asset we got to change
that we have to change the prevailing

463
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:20,560
attitude culture. As I say, we're we're
trying to do that in the regular morning

464
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,720
groups. We need to change that or we're
going to risk losing future rounds being

465
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:31,440
played here. Um, and I will tell you
this, the golfers expect and are

466
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:36,319
accustomed to common golf course
policies. You just know that from every

467
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,160
place. And I find that there's more
respect to those courses when they see

468
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:44,240
that they're wellmaintained and that
they have policies are enforced, you

469
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,760
know, but when you see everybody just
going all over the place, you think,

470
00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:51,839
"Oh, I guess it's okay." [snorts] The
irrigation system, as I say, it's old.

471
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:55,599
It's got leaks. It's a high priority for
the golf course. If we don't have the

472
00:46:53,440 --> 00:47:00,240
irrigation system, we're going to die.
Can't play it like that. Um, but it's

473
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:04,720
also, I will say, it's necessary for the
city because it's the end point for the

474
00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:08,960
safe water disposal. So it's it's a
two-sided coin there. All three of these

475
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,907
have to be addressed in order to be
successful. So how we got

476
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,599
recommendations? Here we go. Finally, I
[snorts] would tell you that in the

477
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,800
green font, it's referring to what we
kind of categorize as the financial

478
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:23,520
management. The blue will be regarding
the course stewardship. These things

479
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:28,240
don't really cost any money. Um
revise the pro shop practices for green

480
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:32,000
fees and carts. First thing we're going
to do is renegotiate this golf now

481
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:35,920
contract. We're already underway. We got
a meeting set up on September 1st. We're

482
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:41,680
going to try to get that thing a little
bit more palatable. Um, make the Groupon

483
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:47,520
suspension permanent. It's been
suspended. We just need to stay away.

484
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:54,240
And determine policies for complimentary
rounds. Don't know exactly what that's

485
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:59,040
going to entail yet, but it right now is
a leaky basket. Um, and then we need to

486
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,119
establish and follow a rental cart
policy. It's not just moving the keys

487
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,119
inside and then people going in and
still doing whatever they want to do.

488
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:13,200
Moving the range balls and baskets
behind the desk. [snorts]

489
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:18,079
This is just nobrainer. You know, al
ultimately we're recommending that that

490
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:23,760
bakedin price for range balls be just
wiped out with the exception probably of

491
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:28,400
memberships. But otherwise, you want it,
you know, the basket should be ready.

492
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:33,440
You want a basket of balls, here it is.
sell it. Easy money. [snorts] Uh even

493
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,960
before you get a ground superintendent,
we can certainly instruct the mowers how

494
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:43,040
to move the tea box markers. I am
absolutely convinced with a little bit

495
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:47,280
of instruction, they would be more than
willing to do that. They just don't

496
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:52,720
know. So when they get ready to mow,
it's kick the T box team markers off to

497
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:57,280
the side. And when they get done, they
kick them back on more or less the same

498
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,160
area. Right?
we can come up with a plan for that.

499
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,720
Say, "Here's what you guys need to do
it." I'm sure they would be able to

500
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,559
comply. Some more immediate investment
um recommendations. Z is going to cost

501
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:12,319
LU money. Obviously, we need a ground
superintendent, whether it be full-time,

502
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,720
part-time, a consultant, or just a
capable foreman that can follow the

503
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:22,240
instructions that the aronomist had to
say. And part of that is is that we need

504
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:26,960
to begin as soon as possible the
aggressive aeration of the greens. It

505
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,680
was sanding and then rolling. and that
may mean buying or renting an air

506
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:34,800
raator. [snorts]
Uh number three, we need to manage and

507
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:39,520
implement a comprehensive golf traffic
management program to reduce the damage

508
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:44,160
that we're seeing. Signs in the course,
signs in the pro shop, barriers. I I

509
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,839
went around today with Johnny. We were
looking at different places where we can

510
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:51,440
put up ropes or chains or cable or curbs
or rocks or whatever to keep people out

511
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:56,160
of some of the areas that they shouldn't
be driving around on. and then to come

512
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:59,200
up with a plan for marshals um so that
they can interact with the violators.

513
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,319
They can do it pleasantly. They don't
have to be, you know, ogres about it,

514
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,599
but still just to go and say, "Hey, you
know, just as a reminder, we actually

515
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,839
keep the carts on the car path." Just a
simple thing like that, right? And I can

516
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:13,680
tell you I have I've encountered that
myself before when I shouldn't have been

517
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,520
off the cart path and I was. And you
just go, "Okay, yeah, I'm sorry. Get

518
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,319
back on." All right. for the next six
months a little bit further out we want

519
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:25,599
to develop and implement a new
simplified attractive prepaid plan

520
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:28,880
options really want to try to get the I
call prepaid what we're talking about

521
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,680
it's memberships but because we're a
public course we can't call it

522
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:36,640
membership so anyway they're prepaid
plans but semantics we want to convert

523
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:41,280
the existing range membership to a true
player development plan that's another

524
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:44,960
leaky bucket and I like the idea of what
like Delaware Springs does or out at

525
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:49,119
lighthouse here you can get unlimited
balls you want to play, you know, we'll

526
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,920
figure something out, but you're not
going to be paying for 20 bucks around.

527
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:58,559
Um, eliminate punch card sales. Okay,
this one I have to give you a little

528
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:03,359
illustration because what I have here
is words, but it may not really register

529
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:07,839
to you. Okay, so what I've got is the
fact it creates problems for fiscal year

530
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:11,359
accounting and according to the uh point
of sales data that there's an imbalance

531
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:18,559
between what's purchased and what's
punched. Um, so let me illustrate this.

532
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:24,000
Here [snorts] is a here's a punch card.
I bought this in 2022.

533
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:28,720
Still valid. The reason I have it is if
I have an out of town guest come in that

534
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:33,040
I want to be able not have them pay. I
go in and I can say, "Hey, you know, put

535
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:37,200
him on my punch card." Right. All right.
First thing, the physical year

536
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:44,880
accounting. This was bought and paid for
in 2022. it shows up as revenue in 2022.

537
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:50,079
When I go and have it punched in 2026,
it goes into the point of sale data as

538
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:55,119
zero revenue because it was paid for in
2022. So, you can see from an accounting

539
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:59,280
point of view that causes that's just
kind of a quagmire. It's just it's just

540
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:05,119
ugly to keep track of that. But here,
let me illustrate for you real quickly.

541
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:10,000
Let's say I have a friend coming in from
Houston. I go into the pro shop and I

542
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,040
say, "Hey, this is my buddy Trey. Uh,
I'm going to pay for him with a punch

543
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,720
card, but I left my punch card out in
the car." And they say, "Okay, no

544
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:22,000
problem. We got you." And they put in
the point of sale Brent Fischer member

545
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:28,720
guest punch card. It's now in the point
of sale data. Boom. We go back to my

546
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:31,760
car, get our golf clubs, load up, we go
to the range because we're not going to

547
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,079
tee off for about 30 minutes. And then
we go, "Oh man, it's time to go." We go

548
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:40,079
over to the tea box and tee off. I I
neglected to go back to the the pro shop

549
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:44,000
and have it punched, right? So, we play
the front nine. I make the turn. I go in

550
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:47,760
to the pro shop and Colleen's working.
Colleen's great, by the way. Um, I go

551
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:51,839
into the pro shop and Colleen would say,
"Hey, Brent, you didn't bring back your

552
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,280
punch card." I go, "Oh, yeah. Sorry.
Here you go." But let's say I make the

553
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,200
turn and all I do is go to the bathroom
and I go ahead and start playing the

554
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:04,319
front nine. Hey, and then when we get
done, I go back the car, load up our

555
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:11,440
bags, and we go have a beer. Did this
ever get punched? Nope.

556
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Is that a problem? Yeah. Happened about
6,000 times over the last three years.

557
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:22,720
Yeah. We started looking at the data.
We're going, how come we have more

558
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:29,280
records of punch cards being showing up
in the point of sales than actually

559
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:33,200
punch cards being purchased or punched?
Seems like that's a problem. That's why

560
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:37,599
we say we need to get rid of them. I'm
saying I'd like to get rid of them

561
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,720
immediately that but we said next six
months because we don't have the

562
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:44,559
membership plan in place yet. So we got
to have a little little time but maybe

563
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:48,640
we can start saying selling them and
there's an expiration date on them or

564
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:51,599
something. [snorts] All right. Um and
the reason I want to eliminate punch

565
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:56,160
cards that we as a board are saying that
this we want to encourage memberships.

566
00:53:53,839 --> 00:54:00,880
Okay. One if you have memberships that's
an annual thing. You can see what people

567
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,960
are paying and it makes it easy for
planning and budgeting. And the other

568
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:10,480
thing of it is I'm convinced that when
people are a member of a club like this,

569
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,839
there's a they've got some skin in the
game. In essence, this is their course

570
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,280
and they're just going to naturally want
to take a little bit better care of it

571
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:21,359
than they just show up and go, "Well, I
just had it punched. I don't really

572
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:25,119
care. I'm going back home." Right? But
it's different when you're a part of a

573
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,920
member. Um, and then we want to develop
and implement a starter Marshall

574
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,040
volunteer program. We haven't figured
out all the details on these. That's why

575
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,079
it's out there for six months, right?
We're going to be meeting next Tuesday

576
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,319
and we're going to be working through
some of these issues, but that's six

577
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,640
months out. Finally, longer term capital
investment. Obviously, we understand got

578
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:46,000
to have an irrigation system. The golf
course has to be watered. City needs to

579
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:50,400
get rid of it. We got to figure out how
to do that. That's a long-term capital.

580
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Um, when I mentioned this earlier, we
want to start developing a capital fund

581
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:57,520
for golf carts. They're going to have to
be replaced every four to five years.

582
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Sad to believe, but that's just what it
is. And we know they're not they're not

583
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,119
cheap. a fleet of 80. We've seen what
that's going to be. You know, it's you

584
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:08,800
need to plan for that. Put aside
$200,000 a year someway so that when

585
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,640
it's time to replace it, you have the
money for it. Um, we talked about

586
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:16,400
installing mats on the practice range.
Right now, the practice range gets beat

587
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,680
up. If you ever go out there and try to
hit off the practice range, got divots

588
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:23,839
all over the place, right? And you move
where you can hit from, but it gets torn

589
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:28,319
up and then it has to be sanded and has
to have grass seed thrown on it. and you

590
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:32,319
put down mats, that's what Delaware
Springs and Legends do. You know, they

591
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:37,200
got good mats now. They last good number
of years and be a lot less maintenance

592
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,559
and much more attractive. And finally,
this was something that the Aarons

593
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:43,680
talked about is if we had a greens
nursery.

594
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,480
» You're growing grass in an area, make
sure it has to be irrigated. But you

595
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:51,200
have a greens nursery. So when there's a
bad spot on a green, you can dig that

596
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,839
sod up and put in replace it from the
nursery. Right. [snorts] I think it's a

597
00:55:53,040 --> 00:56:00,000
great idea. All right, I tell you all
this realizing that there's going to be

598
00:55:58,319 --> 00:56:04,000
some recommended change. There's going
to be various degrees of resistance,

599
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:08,640
right? No one likes change, so we're
probably going to have some resistance.

600
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:13,040
However, I fully believe that that um
most people will appreciate seeing that

601
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,799
intentional improvements are being made
and they'll be supportive of it and

602
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:23,359
ultimately we'll be able to restore this
asset for the city and for the golfers.

603
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:25,920
Sneak peek. I told you last slide. Um,
next month we're going to talk about

604
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:31,040
what's happened with the golf now
renegotiations. We're going to recommend

605
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,960
plans for membership, recommend plans
for the starter marshalss, and

606
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,640
recommendation for policies and
procedures that we'd like to see

607
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:44,129
enforced. And I believe that's it. Thank
you for your time.

608
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:44,129
[applause]

609
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:53,079
» Thank you, Brent. We sure appreciate it.

610
00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:00,240
No,
[laughter]

611
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:05,040
» we can't [snorts] answer.
>> We can't we can't answer, but if there

612
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:08,040
are questions, uh, you have up to three
minutes.

613
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,760
» Today?
Correct me if I'm wrong. We lose a

614
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:18,559
little bit of money, particularly if we
didn't add the $50,000 in from the

615
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:22,319
general fund. Right.
>> That's right.

616
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:26,359
» There you go.
Okay.

617
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,359
» Anything else?

618
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Is there what? I'm sorry.

619
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,960
» Okay,
>> thank you. I just want to say

620
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:56,180
» you've exceeded my expectations. Great
job. [applause]

621
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:06,319
» The committee's put a lot of work into
this and if we had to hire a third party

622
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,920
consultant. It would cost us thousands
of dollars. So, we thank you for your

623
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:15,119
volunteer time.
>> Yeah. Um, does any other council members

624
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:20,960
have any questions or comments related
to his presentation?

625
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:26,880
» No, except we will be having a budget
hearing if anyone we haven't set a we

626
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:33,760
set a date for the public hearing.
>> Uh, yeah, it's the third Tuesday in

627
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:37,000
September. Okay. You may want to make
that announcement.

628
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:44,160
» Yeah. I just thought they might want to
know when the budget hearing is if they

629
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:50,760
» As a as a reminder, our budget hearing
will be a third Tuesday in September at

630
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,760
5:00 pm. That's the 15th.

631
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,405
» We'll get back to this.
[clears throat]

632
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Well, I guess we've covered the most
interesting portion.

633
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:18,640
» I said I guess we've covered the most
interesting portion of tonight's

634
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:23,119
» agenda.
>> Um, we have a budget hearing coming up.

635
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:27,040
Uh, what what is the date of that?
>> It's

636
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,960
September 15th at 5.
>> September 15th at 5. Just want to let

637
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,799
everyone know since you're all in the
audience. Actually, some of you are

638
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,040
still here, so
>> a lot of you left before I could get

639
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,400
that out.
>> Yeah.

640
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,760
» Um, okay. Well, we're going to move on.
Again, thanks to Brent and the golf

641
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:48,480
course advisory board for the
presentation. It was so thorough. Uh, we

642
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,000
have a lot to think about and a lot to
address [clears throat] over the coming

643
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:54,960
months and, uh, we're definitely going
to make a lot of changes to the course

644
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:59,680
to make sure that we follow his
recommendations.

645
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:04,319
Um, moving on, let's let's move to our
consent items. Uh, the items listed here

646
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:07,760
are considered routine and
non-controversial by the city council

647
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:12,480
and may be approved by a single motion
of the council. No separate discussion

648
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:16,951
or action on the on any of the items is
necessary unless the council desires at

649
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,640
which time the council member
[clears throat] can select the item to

650
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:24,559
be discussed separately. Do any of the
council members want to discuss a

651
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,839
consent item separate?
>> No.

652
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:33,359
» Yes. I because we do not have anything
on the golf operations

653
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:39,920
in our packet. So, we need to pull that
one out and the city manager's report

654
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:46,520
and uh I just on the financial
statements.

655
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,520
» Okay. Can we just approve everything?

656
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:55,520
» We can approve everything unless a
council member Unless a council member

657
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,200
brings something up that they want to
present.

658
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:04,760
» No, I just wanted those three items.
>> Just those three.

659
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:04,760
» Yeah, just those three items.

660
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:22,280
read
off.

661
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:36,880
» Yeah, he does do a lot of work and his
reports are very thorough.

662
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:40,200
and some of them are
>> some are notad

663
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:49,520
for all of us.
>> Yes, he's very appreciated. Okay, so um

664
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:59,440
» Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion.
>> Okay. I I move that we accept on the

665
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:11,280
consent items all except item 4B,
4 C I, and 4 C V I.

666
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:14,319
» Okay. Um motion accepted. Is there a
motion to approve of the consent items?

667
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,359
» You got to have a second.
>> Oh, we need a second for that.

668
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,440
» Okay. All in favor? All
right.

669
01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:29,119
» Okay. Now, moving on. Is [clears throat]
there a motion to accept the consent

670
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:31,760
items? The remainder?
>> Yes.

671
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:36,880
» Well, the the remainder that we left in
there to accept those.

672
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:40,559
» Yes. We just voted on the
>> I think we voted to pull yours out.

673
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:46,160
» No, you don't have to vote to pull it
out. I just said just that. Well, all

674
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:50,400
you have to do is just say we my mo my
motion was to accept everything

675
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:56,400
» except those items.
>> That's all.

676
01:02:52,640 --> 01:03:01,119
» Yes. So, we can go on those items.
>> Uh it is the financial statement, the

677
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:06,559
city manager report and the golf
operations because we don't

678
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:09,680
» golf operations we don't have a in our
packet.

679
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:14,400
» Okay. So, we can now discuss 4B which is
the financial statements.

680
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:17,599
you can just give us the highlights.
>> Sure.

681
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:22,000
» I'm going forward. So, uh this is the
net worth of the general fund. You can

682
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:27,520
tell each year um we get most of our
money at the same time. I want to put

683
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:32,880
this up as a uh physical representation
of page 14. I had a question about what

684
01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:38,038
is this liabilities and equity and net
worth uh mumbo jumbo basically. And so

685
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:42,480
this is that net worth is our
[clears throat] our average net worth on

686
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:50,000
any given day in a month. Assets are in
green and liabilities are in red.

687
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:54,520
Overall in the general fund
we've had

688
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:54,520
» I'm sorry

689
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:06,720
» I talked about I'm a person
that's a major major

690
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,039
What page are you on?
>> 14.

691
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:28,280
» Sure. Where did you see the assets in
equity?

692
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,280
» Yes.

693
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:37,920
» I'm not sure how that could happen. That
must

694
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:41,240
I pull it directly from
>> it looks like.

695
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,440
» So I'll take a look at that tomorrow.
See why there's

696
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:56,480
» I do I do I thought it was corrected. My
apologies on that.

697
01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:05,119
» I have a comment on the general fund.
Looking at where our expenses were is

698
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:08,720
that in this year to date our expenses
that are higher than what we projected

699
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:14,319
were the city attorney, which I know
we're going to talk about a little

700
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:21,200
later. Um, and so which puts our total
administrative expenses higher than the

701
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:25,680
year-to- date budget. Um,
the other question I had was under

702
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:29,760
employee expenditures, we have a
miscellaneous,

703
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:34,480
which the problem with that is the
year-to- date budget is 6,650.

704
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:39,359
Well, that's a little large for
miscellaneous, and year-to date we've

705
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:45,440
spent 456. So, I just think in some
cases to go through and look at what our

706
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:49,119
miscellaneous are and
to see what what categories are so that

707
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:54,400
we can see
what we need to work on. That's all.

708
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,160
» Okay.
And break out miscellaneous a little bit

709
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:02,079
more to see what we've spent it on past
years. Absolutely.

710
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:05,039
» Well, you've done a good job
identifying.

711
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,839
» Yes. I appreciate that.
>> And I like the format. It's easy to

712
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,559
read.
>> Glad to hear it. I want you to be able

713
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:14,160
to understand what I'm putting on the
paper.

714
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:17,280
» U any other questions before I continue
for comments? [snorts]

715
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:24,240
All right. Then I'll give us quick
breakdown of uh each fund before we move

716
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:33,440
on. So general fund uh total revenue as
of uh end of last month was $974,000.

717
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:41,839
Total expense was $831,000
for a gain of 143,000. For the utility

718
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:52,000
fund, total revenue was $1,300,000.
uh expense was $1,388,000.

719
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:56,640
Uh sorry that the revenue was 1.329
million. So that's a fund loss of

720
01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:01,440
$58,988
approximately. In recreation fund, total

721
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:08,480
revenue is $93,000
and total expense so far is $981,000 for

722
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:13,920
a net loss of 80 or $78,000.
Uh that includes

723
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:19,359
transfer from other funds in the amount
of $84,000

724
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:24,559
so far this year. Uh on whole, our city
is positive $8,375

725
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:29,680
so far this year. Um moving forward,
this is a breakdown of our cost and

726
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:34,480
expenses for the general fund. You can
see that the administrative expenses,

727
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:38,319
which is largely employee salary, takes
up the lion share here. Uh like I

728
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:45,119
mentioned earlier, we get most of our
money in two months in large sums mainly

729
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:49,599
in the form of property tax.
This is breakdown of our income and

730
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:55,839
expense. Previous comparison or previous
year comparison for expense and income.

731
01:07:53,280 --> 01:08:00,480
You can see our income and expense uh
are relatively the same. We have reduced

732
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:05,440
our expenses compared with past years.
However,

733
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:12,160
uh this is um going for year to date,
not year as a whole. U moving on to our

734
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:16,400
utility fund. We're stable asset uh
stable net worth for the most part. Uh

735
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:20,080
Johnny did a good job for years of
making sure we built up capital reserves

736
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:24,960
so that we can uh do the projects we
need to when we need to.

737
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:29,040
Our
story is the same for employee expenses

738
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:33,359
or our lion share. We need people to
operate the machinery and make sure we

739
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:39,120
got clean water going in and coming out.
Uh and our expenses income usually are

740
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:43,679
roughly the same. We're expecting good
months uh for this month and next month

741
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:50,159
for water sales. It's a dry time of
year. Um and it is profitable whenever

742
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:55,199
we do produce water. So I hope we get
the rain, but if we don't, this fund

743
01:08:52,000 --> 01:09:01,600
will look even better.
This is the recreation fund. So you can

744
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,600
see it's also relatively stable.

745
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:09,839
What are the what assets do we have in
the recreation fund that you're listing?

746
01:09:07,759 --> 01:09:14,799
» So assets there include the buildings
themselves and our equipment

747
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:19,040
» as well as our our cash.
>> Yeah. But our problem with the

748
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,679
recreation fund is the cash flow.
>> It's a cash flow

749
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:26,239
» from the golf course.
>> Yeah. So we have the assets but net

750
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:30,319
worth is going down a little bit because
our reserves are going down as well.

751
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:39,600
Uh here is the uh grounds maintenance
and pro shop take up the uh buying

752
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:45,759
share. That's employee expenses for the
most part. Um and our expenses often

753
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:51,120
exceed our revenue
and they exceed it by a lot when when we

754
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:56,880
don't keep pace. So it still cost us to
have nobody play on there at all. This

755
01:09:53,679 --> 01:10:02,640
can't be explained though by
>> I had one comment on the recreation fund

756
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:07,360
and I haven't checked it with what we're
budgeting but year to date our

757
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:12,880
maintenance is much higher than what we
had budgeted last year. So I don't know

758
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:19,040
how I assume it's because we have a lot
of older equipment and with the uh

759
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:24,640
irrigation system. So I think one of the
things I haven't gone back and looked at

760
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:31,280
the budget line item to see if we have
do we expect those maintenance costs to

761
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:34,159
continue at that level since they're all
higher than what we had in last year's

762
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:40,400
budget.
>> They may be this year we uh we fixed up

763
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:46,080
a lot of equipment kind of on a to-do
list. We hired a mechanic specifically

764
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:49,840
for the golf course. Um he's fantastic
employee. He knows what he's doing with

765
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:53,120
everything on that golf course. But a
lot of those costs are just in buying

766
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,960
parts to repair things that had been
repaired as well as the golf carts

767
01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:01,520
themselves. A lot of them needed work.
Um some small, some big projects, but

768
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:05,199
those all add up very quickly.
>> I just wanted us to go back and take a

769
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:10,000
look because to make sure that we've got
the proper maintenance numbers for the

770
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,960
budget that we're getting ready to
adopt.

771
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,719
» I'll make a note to double check that.
>> Yeah.

772
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:21,280
because it is likely that as our fleet
ages

773
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:25,080
it'll deteriorate at an increasing rate.
We'll have to do more repairs.

774
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:31,760
» Then here is that all?
>> No, I

775
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:35,040
» here uh you can see our comparison just
like I did for the other two

776
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:39,280
departments.
our expenses greatly outpacing our

777
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:45,520
income
and our income comparatively is is not

778
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:50,000
growing like we wanted to. This says
this is fiscal year 2526 just for

779
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:55,679
clarification not last year this
current. So

780
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:00,960
that's where we stand right now and we
need to make sure that we have revenue

781
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:07,560
trending upwards and I think that
>> do you know why the expenses for July

782
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,560
were so high?

783
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:14,320
» Was there anything in particular?
>> I think it's probably a lot of the

784
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:19,040
watering really picked up a lot of
leaks.

785
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:23,040
» Do you know Johnny anything I'm missing
there? Well,

786
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:29,760
there's purchase of some equipment. I
think we had the

787
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:35,120
several thousand worth of maintenance on
several pieces of equipment. That that

788
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:38,199
was one big thing.
the other

789
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:41,640
except those

790
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:51,320
I'm not aware of anything else that will
exp

791
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:59,280
I'll jump in here just a little
recreation side if we out here they've

792
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:04,480
had a lot of unique question was they've
had a lot of leaks they had he's in the

793
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:08,960
process
like we need the sod cutter, we need

794
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:13,040
some stuff to do the ring. He's been
doing a lot of work on a lot of

795
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:16,960
equipment trying to get it all back up.
It's the same kind of thing we talked

796
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:21,760
about is there a piece of equipment you
don't use

797
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:26,000
it, you know, but someone else has got
to maintain.

798
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:30,480
That's the only thing I can think of is
irrigation. I think I know they bought

799
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:36,080
some heads and stuff and they're in the
process. I don't know if grass seed has

800
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:39,360
been purchased yet.
>> That'll be a big hit.

801
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,920
» It's probably the insurance got broken
out too.

802
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:50,760
» That's big.
>> That's probably the biggest

803
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:50,760
portion of that came from it outside.

804
01:13:52,880 --> 01:14:00,360
Yeah, that's probably why utility funds
up and general funds up at the same

805
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,360
time.

806
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:08,760
» It was all That's the one that was all
in the general fund and it got separated

807
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,760
out.

808
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,040
» Okay,
>> Mr. Mayor, I move that we accept the

809
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:19,239
financial report.
>> Okay, I get a second.

810
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:28,320
» Yeah. All in favor?
>> I

811
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:34,159
» passes unan unanimously. Um the next
item we're going to move on to is

812
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:38,560
uh city manager report. Back to Will.
>> All right. Um were there any questions

813
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:42,320
or comments about my report? I don't
have a ton that is not in here to give

814
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:47,199
to you, but I'll touch on a couple
things. Uh first, uh we do have an item

815
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:51,360
on the agenda.
It's

816
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:54,719
new business item B. Um, Guadalupe
Valley Telecom Company won't be here

817
01:14:53,280 --> 01:15:00,560
tonight. Unfortunately, they need a
little bit more time to put the ducks in

818
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:04,159
a row. However, I do want to keep you
involved in this exciting opportunity

819
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,520
where they want to come into our
community and put down fiber at no cost

820
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:14,080
to the residents or the city. They want
just to get the correct permits so no

821
01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:20,480
one um you know is upset with them for
coming in and then provide affordable

822
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:24,560
competitive internet service uh to every
house within about 12 months of breaking

823
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:28,480
ground. So that's something I'm hopeful
that they can come next month. Um the P

824
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:35,280
will need to be involved too because
their process for putting lines down is

825
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:39,920
micro trenching where they just trench a
little bit uh along a street and then

826
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:43,840
they cover it back up. So coordination
with any

827
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:48,159
road projects [clears throat] is
critical so we don't put down new road

828
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:51,760
and then immediately tear up a small
portion of it. It doesn't look bad but

829
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,199
it just would sting if we put down new
road and then immediately cut into it.

830
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,719
» Um
>> what what is their that they were

831
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:02,159
looking at was it maybe next year?
>> Yeah, they were looking begin relatively

832
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:09,360
quickly.
>> Yeah, next next 12 months begin and then

833
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:14,480
finish within 12 months of that start.
>> They said it' be about a $5 million

834
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:19,040
investment approximately. Their base
plan cost about 40 bucks a month. It

835
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:24,560
goes up to 90 or 100. They need to work
on their pricing exactly. So if they got

836
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:28,640
everybody in town years to recoup their
investment, but he said they have cash

837
01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:31,800
on hand
or anything.

838
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:57,040
I would imagine they carry their own
insurance bonded. We didn't discuss it

839
01:16:54,800 --> 01:17:00,600
though. I confirm
they'd be ready for

840
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:07,080
» Okay. Is that all for the city manager
report?

841
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,268
» Sales tax.
>> How about G? [clears throat]

842
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:24,480
» All right. Um that is a uh discussion
item tonight but I can discuss it here

843
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:31,360
also. It's in my report. So item G in
new business is about u local sales tax

844
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:35,199
here in the middle and that is uh not a
fun discussion because everybody hates

845
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:40,000
taxes. I'm one of them. We don't want to
raise them ever unless we have to. Um

846
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:44,000
and I don't want to answer the question
whether we should put a sales tax in.

847
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:49,520
rather how do we adopt sales tax as well
as get the discussion started on why we

848
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:53,280
would ever do so. Um but sales tax is
adopted by an election of city voters.

849
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:59,440
It's not something that the city council
can unilaterally impose upon anyone. Um

850
01:17:57,679 --> 01:18:04,640
they can city council can call an
election by adopting an ordinance by a

851
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:08,239
majority vote of its members or um they
can receive a petition signed by at

852
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:13,199
least 20% of the number of qual
qualified voters in the most recent city

853
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:18,159
election. Um it has to be held on the
first uniform election day. That date

854
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:23,199
occurs after the tax election is called
for by ordinance or petition and need

855
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:28,400
specific ballot ballot language. Um,
right now sales tax is just the state

856
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:32,719
sales tax here in Metal Lakes, 6.25%. It
could go up by an additional 2%. Uh, you

857
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:37,679
need a justification for every cent that
you take. Um,

858
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:41,920
and there's there's lots of different
reasons you could you could have it, but

859
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:46,000
general
municipal

860
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:49,864
business is one of them,
>> right? So, basically, you could

861
01:18:47,844 --> 01:18:49,864
[clears throat]

862
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:55,280
» tax
operations.

863
01:18:53,360 --> 01:19:01,679
What else?
>> So there'll be golf course operations.

864
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:07,280
» Amazon. That's the big one.
>> We don't collect it now.

865
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:11,600
» No, there's no sales tax
in metal lakes that goes to Metal. So if

866
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:15,760
you order something from Amazon right
now, if you do get sales tax captured

867
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:19,440
8.25%.
That's not coming to us. that's an error

868
01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:24,320
and it's going somewhere that they don't
actually have the taxing authority to do

869
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:28,640
it. So I I I haven't confirmed that
happens or I've confirmed that it

870
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:34,480
happens but not the frequency at which
it happens. Um, but Amazon would be one.

871
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:39,199
Any home businesses operating in metal
lakes would also be subject to that

872
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:44,880
sales tax.
>> What were you thinking about this

873
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:49,760
implementing it?
>> Well, I uh I've been asked a question of

874
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:52,560
how how could we generate more revenue?
Um, you know, the golf course and the

875
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,080
advisory board brought us some
information about how we can do that

876
01:19:54,000 --> 01:20:00,480
through there. Um, with our community
center coming up, we have to find a way

877
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:06,800
to make sure that it has, um, the care
and personnel to be successful. Um,

878
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:11,440
rough estimates are that with a 2% tax,
we could generate at least $30,000 per

879
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:15,920
year. Uh, which would pay for an
employee parttime at least to come in

880
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:20,560
and make sure the place looks nice.
>> Would our residents pay more money for

881
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,760
something? We implement that?
>> Yes, ma'am.

882
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:25,199
» Yeah,
>> some of them would. What? Some of them

883
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:28,640
are already charging the
>> the vendors are already charging.

884
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:32,719
» I've done some research on this and I I
looked at our own my family's own online

885
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,520
purchases and when you order from
someone like Amazon or Walmart,

886
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:40,960
» they're fine.
>> They're you're fine. They don't collect

887
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:45,520
the extra 2% city sales tax because they
have it scoped down to who we are met.

888
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:52,480
But if you buy from some other online
vendor like say a boutique um furniture

889
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:57,199
store online, they don't differentiate
and Marble Falls and so oftent times uh

890
01:20:55,040 --> 01:21:01,679
they collect the full eight and a quart%
because that's pretty standard

891
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:06,000
throughout Texas and the other so that
2% that metal lakes does not collect

892
01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:08,719
goes to the state fund
>> and it gets I don't know where it goes

893
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:11,920
to
>> but it doesn't mean that our people

894
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,719
would have to pay more money. It means
that we would get

895
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,880
» it be we would be capturing a lot of
money that we are already paying for.

896
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:18,400
» Yes,
>> the city would be capturing a lot of

897
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:20,320
money.
>> Can I say something?

898
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:23,440
» Yeah.
>> I don't have according to the speaker

899
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:30,320
please John
>> basically we in considering this is

900
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:39,199
we're taxing ourselves because garbage
is taxed c uh is and your telephone TV

901
01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:43,360
all of that will go up 2%. So the vast
majority of the money being generated

902
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:49,120
would be generated from us
>> by increased rates and fees because you

903
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:54,400
know garbage will go up 2% telephone TV
everything else will go up 2% to recover

904
01:21:51,120 --> 01:22:00,639
it and then the only things taxable from
the golf course is cart uh cart rental

905
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:03,760
is the only thing that's taxable
>> cart rentals

906
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:09,040
» cart rentals is the only thing taxable
everything else is not taxable so is not

907
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,760
Golf fees are not taxable.
>> Merchandise

908
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:16,000
» merchandise
>> and you know we don't we talked we

909
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:21,120
discussed this several times and you
know we don't know what the restaurant's

910
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:26,480
doing but probably we're gen there's
about $100,000

911
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:31,120
of taxable sales. Is that kind of what
we come up with about 120 hundred

912
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:37,920
to$120,000
in taxable sales

913
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:41,840
that's being paid by someone else but
well

914
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:46,159
probably half of it's paid by y'all that
the golfers will pay part of that. So I

915
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:51,600
mean and you're considering it you're
taxing you're increasing taxes to me and

916
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:57,040
then the the downfall is you have to
decrease your what is it your property O

917
01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:00,159
andm is that right?
>> That's something I need to research a

918
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,040
little bit more. I don't think you
necessarily have to decrease your

919
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,880
property tax
>> to offset gains from

920
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:10,239
» you may have to the first year.
>> Yeah, I think the first year you have to

921
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:14,639
» and then after that you're free and
clear. So just in consideration, you

922
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:19,920
know, think about we're you know if you
if you do sales tax and there are I I'll

923
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:23,120
keep talking for a minute. There are
some pros and cons that will and I've

924
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:27,360
talked about is because there's other
people can take the sales tax. Hospital

925
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,440
districts, uh,
>> EMS,

926
01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:31,280
» EMS,
>> well, that has to be voted on,

927
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:38,719
» right?
>> The fire and EMS has to be voted on.

928
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:43,120
» They can do it in ESD, ESD. Uh, there is
hospital districts, there's there's a

929
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:47,920
there's I think there's like three
different things that can be actually

930
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:51,920
take part of that sales tax money before
we get it. So,

931
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:56,480
you know, it's kind of a catch 22, you
know, to me to a large degree. But the

932
01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:00,320
main thing I want to mention is that
>> we'll be taxing ourselves. So, we're

933
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:02,400
going to be most of the money is coming
from us.

934
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:06,639
» I think we need to do more research
before anyone makes a decision.

935
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,760
» Also, I think things may change when we
get a new community center built with

936
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:12,639
the new restaurant because there's going
to be a lot of sales there.

937
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:17,040
» A lot of sales
>> and um and we also have to figure out a

938
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:20,080
way to pay for the upkeep of that new
center because we're probably have a

939
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:24,800
full
>> person to just be on for for maintenance

940
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:28,480
and janitorial service and so so forth.
So,

941
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:34,000
» and just just for information, there are
only two uniform election dates. One is

942
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:37,760
the first Saturday in May and the other
is the first two is the Tuesday in

943
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:43,760
November, right?
>> So, we would that's the only time where

944
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:50,080
we can call an election. So since the
uh our building won't be completed until

945
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:55,760
September 2027,
you know, and that's when we'll probably

946
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,679
start seeing more, you know, income or
we're see how it works.

947
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,239
» Yeah.
>> Can assess it.

948
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,679
» Come back to it later. Come back to this
later.

949
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:05,040
» Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
>> Okay.

950
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:11,360
» Okay. Uh Mr. Mayor, I move we accept the
um uh city manager's report.

951
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:14,560
» Is there a second to accept the report?
Johnson it. All in favor?

952
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:18,880
» I.
>> Motion carries.

953
01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:23,080
Moving on to
golf operations under consent.

954
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:26,440
Um,

955
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:38,960
just making sure I got my ducks in a
row. All right. So, our average play per

956
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:43,199
day has been trending upwards. Um, I'm
sorry this was not in your packet. uh

957
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:53,040
for the [snorts] last several years. So
looking at 23 24 25 26 uh average per

958
01:25:47,679 --> 01:26:00,320
day in 23 was 91, 24 was 95, 25 was 103,
and this year it's 107. Um that's uh

959
01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:08,239
total rounds or average per month um for
2026 is 3,266

960
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:11,440
in a month. Um the 25 is 3,143
and uh

961
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:17,520
Yeah, it is trending up. So, we we are
getting the the business, but like the

962
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:22,960
golf advisory board were saying, we're
not capturing that percentage of revenue

963
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:28,400
that we probably should be. And we're
going to we are scheduled to talk on

964
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:33,840
September 1st with uh Golf Now
specifically about the contract uh to

965
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:36,960
see if we can get those times changed.
If they said no, we're not working with

966
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,639
that, that probably would have been a
done deal and it would have had to go a

967
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:44,639
different route, but they said they'd be
very flexible and understanding. I told

968
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:48,480
them, you know, we absolutely need to
get more revenue. So, work with us and

969
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:51,600
maybe we can
>> keep working with you.

970
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:57,679
» So, on the Goff now contract, are we
able to get out of that for any reason

971
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:00,080
or is it are we stuck until 2028?
>> That might be a question for our legal

972
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,760
counsel.
>> Okay.

973
01:27:00,719 --> 01:27:09,280
» Yeah. Um, I have a comment. My only
comment with Golf Now is that if they're

974
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:14,560
getting morning tea times before 11,
we're not getting them because like I

975
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:21,040
run uh a couple's
scramble on odd Fridays and even Sundays

976
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:26,960
and we can't get morning tea times and
so we we've suspended play for Sunday

977
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:31,760
because we're not playing at 11 o'clock
or 12:00. That's just

978
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:34,800
» you're saying you can't get those tea.
We've given them to golf.

979
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:41,120
» I don't know. All I'm saying is that we
cannot our groups cannot get morning tea

980
01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:46,639
times, but if obviously it has to impact
us sometime if they're giving tea times

981
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:51,679
away prior to 11:00 a.m. That's my only
comment. I don't know which ones are

982
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:56,880
going but that is something that we
should not be giving tea times morning

983
01:27:54,159 --> 01:28:00,080
tea times if our own members can't get
those tea times

984
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:04,880
» and in this heat we need those early
>> and that's my only comment about that

985
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,960
» we should be giving given preferential
treatment

986
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,560
» that's all
>> and is there a way to scale down how

987
01:28:08,719 --> 01:28:13,199
many of those I don't I don't really
understand free tea times we're given

988
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:18,320
away
>> yeah and it's a it's a barter agreement

989
01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:23,760
where we give them the times and we um
we do get things in return. So, we get

990
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:29,600
advertisements from here to Austin. So,
we'd have to look at the the alternative

991
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:33,679
cost if we wanted to do that. You know,
I don't have the exact amount. It would

992
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:39,440
cost us to use Google or any other
advertising agency to get those same uh

993
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:44,719
impressions on potential customers. Same
with our booking system. That's entirely

994
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:50,400
through them. Um and it is sort of a
negotiation because there's not hard

995
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:54,560
dollar assigned to uh how much that's
worth. They just say, "What do you what

996
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:58,960
do you feel it's worth?" And so for us,
I don't think $200,000 is the answer.

997
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:02,960
It's not worth that. But if they work
with us, um

998
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:06,239
» have we found out what other golf
courses are using golf now for the

999
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:09,679
booking system?
>> Uh I don't remember off the top of my

1000
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:14,080
head, but yeah, we do have
>> I would think that the golf advisory

1001
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:17,679
board would know because they because
they were they showed

1002
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Yeah,
>> I didn't see anything.

1003
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:31,199
» Lighthouse. They use
>> Well, they use it, but they may not use

1004
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:36,320
their booking system. We use them. They
have a proprietary system where they

1005
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:41,120
book tea times through golf. Now,
>> we don't see what you're saying. Yes.

1006
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:46,000
» It's software,
>> right?

1007
01:29:42,719 --> 01:29:50,000
» Using their software. Yeah.
Yeah,

1008
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:56,480
» Mr. Mayor, I move we accept
>> two more things on on that. Um,

1009
01:29:53,040 --> 01:30:00,880
» we are updating our cash handling policy
immediately uh to make sure it's counted

1010
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:03,040
correctly and handled correctly so that
there's no opportunity for theft up at

1011
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:06,080
that
>> cashling at the

1012
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:09,440
» at the pro shop. That's correct. And we
also installed security cameras to make

1013
01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:16,480
sure we have a safe, secure environment
up there. Um and like we were put in our

1014
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:22,800
uh draft budget. I have talked with
Jason Kelly to come on as a contract

1015
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:27,199
superintendent. We call him contract
superintendent. He has the skills,

1016
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:31,120
knowledge and experience as well as um I
mean he went got educated about it and

1017
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:34,960
has has that experience that the golf
advisory board said is necessary for

1018
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,639
someone in his position. He's going to
start on October 1st.

1019
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:43,199
» Is he fulltime or will he be full time?
>> He'll be parttime.

1020
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:46,719
How many any any specific hours?
>> We're still working out the exact

1021
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:50,000
specifics of his hours and we're meeting
on Thursday with him.

1022
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:56,239
» It'll be better than nothing. How many
years have we gone without a golf course

1023
01:30:52,639 --> 01:31:01,480
» since uh Mr. Solano passed away which is
a little bit before I got here. So about

1024
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,480
three years ago.

1025
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:08,159
» Now uh that's all I've got for golf
course.

1026
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:13,000
» Okay. Thank you. I move that we accept
the golf operations report.

1027
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:31,760
» No, I'm not involved with that. That's
the the

1028
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:37,280
» Will is and the golf advisory boards and
>> Okay, let's move on to business.

1029
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:41,840
didn't do old business.
>> Sorry, old business. We're jumping

1030
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:45,600
around here. Old business. Item five,
update on the community center complex

1031
01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:48,600
by Johnny
>> Thompson.

1032
01:31:53,920 --> 01:32:00,960
Any questions on the
financial part of it? I'll bypass that

1033
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,320
and no,
>> I'll just give you a little update.

1034
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:09,280
Hopefully, we're pouring concrete next
week.

1035
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:13,920
Uh going to pour the
help me out here. Uh the structural

1036
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:17,120
wood, the structural steel is up.
Structural wood is supposed to be begin

1037
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:20,400
next week.
>> Uh so things are beginning to rock and

1038
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:24,880
roll a little bit more now than it was
before. Uh there were a couple of

1039
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:29,600
things. There are three items that we
just wanted to talk to you about.

1040
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:34,880
They're within the the city's budget is
the water that water cooler the cooler

1041
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:39,199
which is about $84,000.
The generator is what $86,000 I think in

1042
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:43,040
that neighborhood. And then of course
the putting green. We had a budget but I

1043
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:49,120
think it shot. So we're going to have to
rework it because of grass cost. So

1044
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:55,760
that's kind of the construction end of
it. But here and Mike can tag team me

1045
01:32:53,120 --> 01:33:01,199
here. Uh we're we're going to show you
the first round of first impression or

1046
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:06,320
first of the golf of the new swimming
pool and I think you'll be impressed.

1047
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:10,719
This is the original that we had we
started with. Basically [clears throat]

1048
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:18,800
it's a rectangular just a rectangular
pool very basic.

1049
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:22,960
Uh now what we have moved to is a
completely different design. It's pretty

1050
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:31,120
close.
>> Uh, we pulled the uh

1051
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:36,960
I'm lost of words.
>> Splash pad and actually ended up putting

1052
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:41,280
it into the pool to some degree.
>> Not not completely.

1053
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:44,719
» Uh oh. Yeah, that that one will show it
better.

1054
01:33:42,719 --> 01:33:50,719
» So, it'll be look something very similar
to this. Uh

1055
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:56,400
uh think we gained about three or 4
hundred square feet of of actually pool

1056
01:33:54,400 --> 01:34:03,120
space. It may be a little bit more than
that. Uh looking at a local contractor

1057
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:07,600
uh that's got experience in pools like
this. Uh we met when was it day before

1058
01:34:06,719 --> 01:34:10,960
yesterday?
>> Monday.

1059
01:34:08,159 --> 01:34:18,080
» Yeah, Monday on the pool and went over
some details and and stuff. Uh it will

1060
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:24,320
have as it stands right now we do have
the coverage uh shades permanent shades.

1061
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:29,840
» Uh
and uh what else am I missing? I know

1062
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:35,199
I'm missing something in here but it
just it looks a lot better. I mean, it

1063
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:39,360
looks a whole heck of a lot better than
the rectangular pool that we

1064
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:45,520
» We were able to figure out how to cut
some cost by moving the splash pad into

1065
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:50,000
the pool to make it a beach access type
thing where it's a general slope and you

1066
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:53,520
get the splash,
you know, the fountains.

1067
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:58,880
» Yeah, there'll be something like that.
some squirting stuff up in the air and

1068
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:01,040
plus got some water into it and yeah and
some stuff

1069
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:07,280
» and and with the savings that we were
able to to find we were able to factor

1070
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:10,480
in implementing a selfcleing system pool
that's probably going to cost around

1071
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,280
60,000 I think.
>> Yeah, it's a lot of money

1072
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:19,440
» but it's going to save the city a lot of
money in the long run for cleaning

1073
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:24,480
» and and looking at the budget that that
cleaning system is about is what our

1074
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:29,440
overrun is. We are over but basically
the pool correct me if I remember right

1075
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:35,440
correctly the pool itself is was right
on budget or close but we were thinking

1076
01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:41,199
by adding that selfcleing is cleans a
floor automatically by itself is that

1077
01:35:38,719 --> 01:35:46,560
with the number of trees and everything
else we got it would just I think we may

1078
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:50,480
have that investment up front but we're
going to save it in maintenance and

1079
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:55,280
labor. Yeah.
>> Uh

1080
01:35:52,000 --> 01:36:00,639
we're the pool uh will be probably the
last thing done because they said they

1081
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:03,679
didn't want to the uh the issue was you
know they get dirt and stuff in it

1082
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:08,800
during construction. So he said that
would be the last thing. H it's highly

1083
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:14,080
unlikely that it'll be finished correct
guys but finished by uh next summer.

1084
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:18,880
It'll be towards the end of the summer
before unless something really perks up

1085
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:24,239
and they really get on the stick. Uh,
it's got a a volleyball area. Uh, and

1086
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:27,600
it's got a a flat pretty flat area for
aerobics. I think we captured

1087
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,239
» swim
>> swim lane

1088
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:34,197
» in the swim lane. It's got a swim lane.
It's marked. So, there'll be actually

1089
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:39,600
two lanes that you could use, but they'd
[clears throat] be marked. Uh, I think

1090
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:46,080
we captured everything pretty well that
everyone wanted uh in the original

1091
01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:51,280
design. We just moved it over here. But
uh you can see there's steps down from

1092
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:58,400
the the shallow end which is the rounded
end. There's there steps down uh to the

1093
01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:05,920
deeper water. So there's actually sort
of a control point before someone a kid

1094
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:10,760
could get into deeper water. Uh we
>> was the north to the right side of the

1095
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,760
screen.

1096
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:15,040
» The top of the screen.
>> Top of the screen.

1097
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:17,520
» Top of the screen. Yeah. because the the
new building is over there. That dark

1098
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,840
» right
>> the dark stuff that's where the building

1099
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:20,880
is.
>> Okay.

1100
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:25,600
» U
>> and then we've got some areas like where

1101
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:30,960
the on the bottom left where it's shaded
in is going to be like

1102
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:35,040
» maybe astro turf where kids can play on
and uh

1103
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:38,400
» we're trying to minimize the amount of
maintenance

1104
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:43,040
» that's required.
Uh yeah, it may cost us a little bit

1105
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:47,360
more, but again, you know, labor is so
costly that that we may spend, you know,

1106
01:37:45,679 --> 01:37:51,119
a few few thousand dollars with the
astro turf down now, but it'll save us

1107
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:54,320
that and
probably keep the pool clean.

1108
01:37:53,040 --> 01:38:00,000
» It's going to be difficult to keep grass
and stuff.

1109
01:37:56,719 --> 01:38:03,440
» Are we going to have um any umbrellas in
where this the beach entry and the

1110
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,119
splash pad area is?
>> Yeah, they're going to put holes in

1111
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,480
there.
>> I think one of those wondering.

1112
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:11,360
» Okay. Sorry. There you go.
>> This one doesn't show it.

1113
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:12,960
» It doesn't show it, but they they we did
talk about it.

1114
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:17,600
» Yeah.
>> And then those umbrella or they actually

1115
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:22,800
put them in. Uh there's some accents
that Garrett really worked on. It's like

1116
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:26,239
a rock or something. It will have some
flowing water that'll go into it. Is

1117
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:29,520
that is that pretty well what we talked
about?

1118
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:35,920
» So, it's a lot of stuff. It's not a a
lot of expense, but it just enhances the

1119
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:43,199
the aesthetics of the the pool. But uh
as we found out when I mean the original

1120
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:47,840
budget didn't reflect the covered
because it reflected putting in shade

1121
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:50,719
cloth. So actually we're getting the
pool plus this the covers which are not

1122
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,040
cheap.
>> Good.

1123
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,920
» So
>> permanent permanent metal covers

1124
01:38:54,800 --> 01:39:00,000
» and I think we're getting a little bit
more decking around too.

1125
01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:04,400
» Yes. It'll be a larger
>> moving the car down a little bit because

1126
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:08,239
there's going to be a walk into the
restaurant from inside the pool area.

1127
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:13,679
So, there's going to be a lot of people
>> utilizing that area to eat, I think.

1128
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:18,000
» And we're going to use a I guess as it
stands right now, cool deck, which is I

1129
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:21,440
guess that's pretty similar to what we
had on the old pool,

1130
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:25,760
» but it's not going to be wore out like
the old one was. So, we're going to

1131
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:32,320
probably use a cool deck, which uh they
talked about uh soft

1132
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:37,040
and I think that got overruled pretty
quick because it's it's it's kind of

1133
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:40,000
rough on your feet. We talked about then
we went to the

1134
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:46,159
the other
>> and the the entrance to the pool area is

1135
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:49,360
I see where the restrooms are.
>> That will be one

1136
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:51,360
» where the restrooms are at the top.
>> At the top. Yeah,

1137
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,600
» there's one. That's
>> okay.

1138
01:39:52,719 --> 01:39:54,639
» And then there's an entrance right
there.

1139
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,760
» There's the other one.
>> Yeah.

1140
01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:59,440
» Okay.
>> And then the the walk up window is right

1141
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,800
next to it. That little
>> cover.

1142
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:06,320
» That's where the walk up window is for
the So,

1143
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:08,960
» and is that parking down there for golf
carts right there? That the what looks

1144
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,639
like a line?
>> Yes, ma'am.

1145
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,920
» Yes, ma'am.
>> Good.

1146
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:18,400
» Yeah. Uh we've cut had to cut some of
the

1147
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:22,080
» we've had to cut some of the original
>> uh parking because we're not going to

1148
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:25,040
asphalt because we had to cut parking.
If you remember when we working on our

1149
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:30,719
budget, we had to cut the size of the
parking down. So that eliminated an

1150
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:33,520
access to part of it. Uh but most of it
would be accessed off of the cart path.

1151
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:37,440
» Okay.
>> So uh but anyway, we just wanted

1152
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:43,119
everyone to know, you know, kind of what
this is going to look like. I think I

1153
01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:48,320
think we has all of us has been pleased
with what they've came up with. Uh it's

1154
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:54,239
again it's different than what we
started with but I think it's a more

1155
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:57,920
pleasing aesthetically
>> pool than we had originally because

1156
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:04,800
regular again we just had a recliner
pool and had no features no nothing. So

1157
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:09,920
this comes out and again we're about
about 60,000 over budget. Uh the

1158
01:41:08,239 --> 01:41:14,800
question was raised I guess when we had
our meeting is where's the 60,000 they

1159
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:18,800
have some contingencies
uh they haven't touched those

1160
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:24,480
contingencies but we've what I say
92,000 I think interest earnings

1161
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:30,480
» was like 92,000 more than we had
budgeted and that's not factored in to

1162
01:41:27,119 --> 01:41:35,600
anything. So so we have some money
available. Uh we're banking right now on

1163
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:41,119
contingencies. We'll throw that other in
if we need it. So, uh, but anyway, uh, I

1164
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:44,719
think everyone's we I know the committee
that looked at it was really pleased

1165
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:49,679
with what they've came up because we
told them, "Here's what we want kind of

1166
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:55,360
designing." So, we didn't use a pool
designer. It's actually an installer

1167
01:41:51,840 --> 01:42:01,199
that that did it all. So
anyway, uh

1168
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:05,119
any questions,
concerns,

1169
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:09,199
and we'll keep you updated that I mean
this probably will get not shifted

1170
01:42:07,679 --> 01:42:14,400
around, but there may be a few more
things added or deleted before we but

1171
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:18,800
they're wanting to go ahead. The problem
is is that the pool house has to be

1172
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:23,840
plumbed
right within a week or two. So

1173
01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:28,480
» second,
>> no, it'll be a third pour.

1174
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:33,520
» Yeah, they'll pour the they'll pour that
and then they'll pour the pad for PEC

1175
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:38,639
and the pad for all the electrical.
They'll pour that all be one one port,

1176
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:43,360
but it's a minor pour. The the the pour
the final pour is little what right at

1177
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:48,159
4,000 square feet.
So and and those guys got in and out and

1178
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:54,000
that's amazing. But they had a pump
truck and they had four trucks basically

1179
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:58,639
there the whole time. So we didn't have
any coal joints and didn't have to worry

1180
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:04,719
about waiting on cement which normally
you do around here. So any other

1181
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:07,760
questions? Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1182
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:11,600
» Thank you.
>> Okay.

1183
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:17,119
There's no more questions about uh old
business then we can move on to new

1184
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:22,239
business filing. Uh,
let's see. New business item C, the

1185
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:25,600
discussion about the waste management
and future services.

1186
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:28,161
» I assume we're skipping the
>> what he talked about.

1187
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:31,760
» I think we've already talked about
[snorts]

1188
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:35,679
» Yeah, Will said it.
>> Yeah.

1189
01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:40,400
» Go on.
>> All right. Um, and I believe we have

1190
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:46,560
waste management representatives here in
attendance. Um, so this is a followup.

1191
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:51,360
um to previous conversation. It could be
under hold business, I suppose, but this

1192
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:58,280
is a new new uh document that we're
reviewing. Um are you guys ready to talk

1193
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:58,280
to us a little bit about it?

1194
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:07,920
» Good evening, honorable mayor and
council. My name is Paul Do. I'm the

1195
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:12,880
public sector rep for waste management.
This is Bren Ooa. He is our operations

1196
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:17,600
manager here in Marble Falls. So, he
deals with it. Matthew Meyers, I'm sure

1197
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:22,239
y'all notice I'm not the same guy that's
usually up here. He couldn't be here

1198
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:27,360
tonight, so I'm filling in for him. Uh,
so I may not have the answers to every

1199
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:31,679
question you have. Uh, but if I don't,
maybe Brent does or we can get back to

1200
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:35,920
you. What we're here for tonight is Matt
had been working with you guys for a

1201
01:44:33,199 --> 01:44:42,480
while on implementing a new brush
program. And so, uh, I believe y'all had

1202
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:46,639
a presentation on that in the past. So,
we're here to talk about the contract

1203
01:44:44,639 --> 01:44:51,199
and if you had any questions on that,
it's basically the same service. We'll

1204
01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:57,760
be implementing uh brush, unlimited
brush using a grapple truck that'll come

1205
01:44:54,639 --> 01:45:02,880
uh once every other week and it's to the
first 50 uh people that ask for it

1206
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:08,000
during that week during leading up to
it. So, they'll put a route together and

1207
01:45:05,119 --> 01:45:12,560
they'll come up pick up up to 50 uh new
brush accounts a week in a in a in a uh

1208
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:17,040
grapple truck. From what I understand,
you'll have trash once a week. You have

1209
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:21,760
recycle every other week. You have bulk
and cut and bundled brush already uh

1210
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:26,718
picked up every other week. This will be
adding to uh to help you guys out with

1211
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:29,119
your brush needs.
>> [clears throat]

1212
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:36,560
» Uh the contract would be effective I
believe January 1st, 2027 uh going to

1213
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:39,760
December 2030.
So I'm here if you have any questions

1214
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:47,199
that I can answer.
>> What will the rules be on this uh bundle

1215
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:51,119
or this extra brush pickup? Uh not
bundled uh right and what size limbs and

1216
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:56,960
so forth.
>> Right. It's it's pretty it's pretty the

1217
01:45:53,679 --> 01:46:04,080
the big rule is that we will you pick it
up and it's for residents. That's your

1218
01:46:01,119 --> 01:46:08,960
brush and your your your trees in your
yard that you cut you can put out to

1219
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:15,760
there in the past or what we have been
doing is using a rear load truck uh for

1220
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:20,400
your your bulk and your brush and the
rear load truck has a helper on the back

1221
01:46:17,440 --> 01:46:25,119
so therefore it's cut and bundled. This
is going to be one of the big claw

1222
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:28,800
trucks, grapple truck, so they can pick
up just about whatever you put out

1223
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:34,239
there. There's really no limits besides
we will not if if somebody calls in, you

1224
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:39,440
know, every every month or every other
other week and and you can see they're

1225
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:42,719
not doing any any kind of work in their
yard, we'll start considering that

1226
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:48,000
construction
are people using that. So that's how

1227
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:54,159
we'll kind of police that. Uh if if it's
just normal, you're cutting branches and

1228
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:56,159
and tree limbs and it'll be we'll pick
up.

1229
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,960
» A lot of it here is pecan trees are so
brittle that they blow down.

1230
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:01,760
» Absolutely.
>> Fall all the time.

1231
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:04,719
» So yeah. So if you have that, they'll
pick it up every other week. You just

1232
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:08,560
need to call it in. You'll call into the
city. It's what I'm understanding. The

1233
01:47:06,719 --> 01:47:13,760
city will call us. We'll set up a route
and come back and pick it up. Does it

1234
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:18,040
» have to be cut to a certain length?
>> Well, Sure.

1235
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:29,360
Yeah, it it I I don't know what the what
the length is on that. I was it was in

1236
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:34,480
we have the contract and I don't think
it really specifies the length

1237
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:38,719
» for the contract really. And as I said,
I'm filling in tonight, but I did look

1238
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:42,080
over the contract. I did not see any any
specification because it is a grapple

1239
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:47,840
truck. So, they can pick up I mean, they
can pick up just about anything in it.

1240
01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:52,639
So, It's a pretty good deal. Also, for
your seasonal leaf collection, we from

1241
01:47:50,719 --> 01:48:00,560
they'll we will provide four free
rolloffs between November and November,

1242
01:47:56,639 --> 01:48:06,239
December, and January for for the city's
uh leaf collection for us to uh for them

1243
01:48:03,119 --> 01:48:10,880
to put it put their which sounds like a
vacuum truck that you guys are g using

1244
01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:14,400
to put to put into our roll off. So,
we'll haul those for four of those a

1245
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:20,960
year for free between those. So that'll
that'll pretty much take care of leaves,

1246
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:26,600
brush and bolt. Yeah, trash recycle. It
sounds like you'll have it all here. So

1247
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:26,600
it's sounds like a pretty good deal.

1248
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:38,480
» That's right. They'll be 40. Yeah,
>> they'll be 40 yards a piece.

1249
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:44,000
» Okay.
>> And that's I think that's uh speaking to

1250
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:50,600
Matt Meyers about it. They had discussed
that's about how much they think the

1251
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:50,600
yardage is per year looking back. Yeah.

1252
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:05,360
» So So what will the rate increase be?
>> Uh the rate is what I'm understanding is

1253
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:08,159
it's 31.22 a month starting out on
January 1st.

1254
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:11,840
» Right. What the increase though?
>> I'm not sure what the regular thought is

1255
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:15,119
right now.
>> Yeah. I'm not sure what

1256
01:49:13,679 --> 01:49:20,320
» a little over.
>> That's right.

1257
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:24,320
» Yeah, it sounds Yeah, they just told me
what the rate is now. They didn't tell

1258
01:49:22,239 --> 01:49:29,199
me what it was before. So, like I said,
I haven't been managing this uh your

1259
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:33,639
city. So,
>> we have to approve something or what

1260
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:38,400
amendment.
>> Yes. Yes, ma'am. There's a contract

1261
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:42,080
amendment on here that will that
probably needs to be voted on.

1262
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,320
Can we do that?
>> We can.

1263
01:49:51,199 --> 01:49:58,320
» Motion.
Can you make it subject to legal review

1264
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,920
or is legal already reviewed it?
>> Are they going to?

1265
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:04,000
» Yes.
>> Okay. Subject to legal review.

1266
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:07,800
» Subject to legal review.
>> Is there a second? Any

1267
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:14,280
questions?
>> All in favor?

1268
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,840
» Well, thank you. We appreciate your
partnership.

1269
01:50:20,719 --> 01:50:23,800
» All right.

1270
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:32,080
» Thank you guys for coming.
>> They learned a lot about the city of

1271
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:36,239
Metal Lakes.
>> Yeah.

1272
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:42,320
» Past hour and a half. Yeah. [laughter]
>> All right. Moving on. Um, we are going

1273
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:46,560
to [snorts] item 6D, a resolution by the
city of Metal Lakes adopting the city of

1274
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:49,360
Metal Lakes Council rules and procedures
and establishing effective dates.

1275
01:50:48,981 --> 01:50:53,360
[snorts]
>> I asked Will whether anything had

1276
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:58,239
changed from the last year we approved
and he said there were no changes. So,

1277
01:50:55,679 --> 01:51:02,560
I'd just say approve it.
>> The the only suggested change I have

1278
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,880
» told me there were no changes.
This document has no changes.

1279
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:09,920
» Suggested
>> the the only suggested one um that I'm

1280
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:20,040
looking at today with Johnny and he said
um on page 75 uh which is 5.1F

1281
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:20,040
um and

1282
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,920
make sure I'm in the right spot.

1283
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:34,560
Uh it right now it has city council
packets going out on on Friday. calendar

1284
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:39,119
days prior. Uh we do need the agenda to
go out. It's usually five calendar days

1285
01:51:37,119 --> 01:51:43,199
prior because it requires three full
business days. Now, um we're okay if we

1286
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,320
don't change it, but it would just make
it more consistent with state law.

1287
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:55,119
» What do you want to change it to?
>> Uh instead of four calendar days prior,

1288
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:57,920
have it be uh three full business days.
>> What?

1289
01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:59,520
» Three full business days instead of four
calendar days.

1290
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:04,639
» Okay,
>> that makes sense. motion on that.

1291
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:09,080
» I make a motion we change policies and
procedures to business.

1292
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:33,639
No, it's been updated

1293
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:41,440
that we received in our packets
up.

1294
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:46,159
» Well, I meant there's a date. Oh,
>> if you look on page 79, the original was

1295
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:54,159
2016.
Then they amended it on 20 in 2024 and

1296
01:52:49,760 --> 01:53:00,639
then they also amended it in 2025.
>> It's just the original was 2016.

1297
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:04,360
79.
>> Oh, it's in your packet.

1298
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:11,119
» Oh, yeah. Here it is.
>> You should.

1299
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:16,840
» Yeah.
>> Bruce, it's

1300
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:16,840
» Oh, it's behind that one. Yes.

1301
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,880
» What would be

1302
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:40,320
Yeah,
>> which is the same as that one,

1303
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:44,480
» but I had already printed out. So,
>> I just I had even I had read through it

1304
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:47,599
and I know
>> Bruce, I'm very good at auditing legal

1305
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:51,760
stuff
>> because I used to be a parallegal.

1306
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:55,040
» So, why don't I make that motion based
on the fact that I will go through it

1307
01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:58,239
and fix any grammar errors.
>> Why don't we just

1308
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:01,360
Hey, section.
>> Why don't we Can we just table this

1309
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:06,639
until next next month?
>> Yeah, there's no rush to amend it.

1310
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:12,560
» If there's some loose ends to go still
out there, let's just hold off on it.

1311
01:54:09,199 --> 01:54:16,800
» I'm also okay moving forward.
>> Yeah,

1312
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:20,800
» maybe it's a good idea to correct it and
then let all of us have a chance to

1313
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:24,639
review the corrected version before.
>> But I move we table

1314
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:28,080
» was going to be
>> Mr. Mr. May I move we table this until

1315
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,360
next month.
>> Okay.

1316
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:35,199
» Okay.
>> On page 75, the recommended correction,

1317
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:41,599
which we know we're going to was by 5:00
p.m. Friday, four and be four full days.

1318
01:54:39,599 --> 01:54:43,760
» Three full days. And that be
>> okay.

1319
01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:46,239
» I get rid of Friday, but
>> get rid of Friday.

1320
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:48,800
» Usually Wednesday.
>> Are you talking about?

1321
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:56,480
» Yeah. the one that you were going to
make the motion

1322
01:54:51,440 --> 01:55:00,480
three full days prior to preceding the
>> Well, you can get with Will and and get

1323
01:54:58,239 --> 01:55:04,320
that corrected. Um, so we have a motion
to table this to the next meeting

1324
01:55:02,639 --> 01:55:07,360
» and I will try honestly. I will look at
it and see what I can do. Somebody can

1325
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:13,760
give it to me.
>> Is there a second to table?

1326
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:15,920
» Did you Did you motion to table it?
>> I did.

1327
01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:20,880
» I do.
>> Okay. [laughter]

1328
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:24,560
All in fa All in favor to sec to table
the item

1329
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:27,880
» say I
>> motion carries

1330
01:55:28,639 --> 01:55:36,000
to do it online.
It's online. She sent it to you.

1331
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:43,280
» Okay.
>> Uh the next item we have is item 6E and

1332
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:50,239
it's regarding the tennis court revenue.
>> And I was asked to place this on here by

1333
01:55:45,119 --> 01:55:53,360
Council Pas. um talking about our
exactly what it says that right now

1334
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:59,040
we're not generating any revenue with
the tennis courts or pickle ball courts.

1335
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:02,880
Uh I do have a hopefully they'll get
back to me uh discussion with two

1336
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:09,440
individuals about potentially taking
over that responsibility. Um we also are

1337
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:13,520
looking at scheduling systems. Um I
future with them remains to be seen but

1338
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:18,159
with golf now we can use their service
for any sort of scheduling we want. So

1339
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:22,719
we could do tennis courts, we could do
community center card rooms. It's an

1340
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:26,239
option that's available to us right now
>> where people pay for the services or pay

1341
01:56:24,639 --> 01:56:29,199
for the use of the
>> right. So if you know just

1342
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,880
» good
>> off the top of my head if you wanted to

1343
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:36,560
say it's it's free to come onto the
tennis courts for residents, but if you

1344
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:43,880
want to reserve a time, you pay a
dollar, we could do that um with minimal

1345
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:43,880
difficulty.

1346
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:58,440
to reserve is that money go back to

1347
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:05,199
» ideally. Yeah. Yeah. The people paying
it would see the direct benefit of their

1348
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:11,599
dollars. So that that would be the plan
to get revenue together to help fund the

1349
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:14,599
repairs on the courts.
membership.

1350
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:28,320
So, what did our membership
>> to reserve a not

1351
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:32,320
so bad?
>> Well, we're we're not really able to

1352
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:38,560
answer questions, but I will just say
this. Um, the former agreement that we

1353
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:42,560
had with the tennis court operator is no
longer that operator. That was a

1354
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:46,719
» land.
>> That's correct. Yeah.

1355
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:50,639
» So, so that that was a third party
agreement and there was no memberships

1356
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:56,239
between the city and any citizens
regarding the tennis courts. So, that's

1357
01:57:53,199 --> 01:58:00,800
no longer um the tennis courts are just
owned by the city and people can use

1358
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:05,280
them as they wish right now. However, we
do need we do know that there is a need

1359
01:58:02,719 --> 01:58:09,760
for repair. Um, but we do have some
people who have approached us who are

1360
01:58:07,119 --> 01:58:14,560
have an avid interest in pickle ball and
it seems like they want to meet to

1361
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:18,880
discuss taking over, you know,
administering

1362
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:21,840
the courts and overseeing the repairs
and so forth. So, we're going to see how

1363
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,239
that plays out.
>> That's right.

1364
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:29,080
» Yeah. So, we do have that in mind. We
definitely are going to try to make

1365
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:29,080
something happen there.

1366
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:35,040
» Is that all you have on that?
>> That's all I have on that unless there's

1367
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:38,280
other comments or insights people would
like to share.

1368
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:43,440
» There's no action.
>> It's just there just in case anyone

1369
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,560
wanted to take action.
>> Okay.

1370
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:47,840
» Okay.
>> And we'll we'll make sure to update

1371
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:52,960
everybody on the tennis court
conversation that we have with the

1372
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:58,960
potential overseers after that meeting.
U the next item is item 6F, the future

1373
01:58:56,400 --> 01:59:01,960
restaurant operating
agreement.

1374
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:09,199
Yeah. So, sorry. I thought we skipped
one. We did. We're on track. Um,

1375
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:14,480
» so for this, um,
>> we need to figure out pretty quickly,

1376
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:21,679
um, who's going to be occupying that
space. Um, that'll be a city PFC, you

1377
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:25,840
know, project. I'd like to talk with
some local restaurant tours and keep

1378
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:29,520
keep all of you informed what's going on
just to test the waters and see who's

1379
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:33,920
interested. And then, uh, we can put out
a request for proposals as well. based

1380
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:38,080
off of that interest level and seeing um
who want to put what kind of restaurant

1381
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:42,560
in there. Uh right now we have the
design showing kind of any restaurant

1382
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,639
you want you can put in there. If we get
a lot of interest in something

1383
01:59:43,599 --> 01:59:49,760
specialized, we want to be able to
change those sooner rather than later.

1384
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:53,920
» Anyways, just to um go back to the the
point I'm trying to make is if unless

1385
01:59:51,679 --> 01:59:58,639
there's any
strong objections to it, I'm going to

1386
01:59:56,719 --> 02:00:01,280
talk to restaurant tours.
>> Well, before you talk to them, I think

1387
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:03,280
we
into the mics.

1388
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,719
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Be

1389
02:00:04,239 --> 02:00:14,080
» before we you talk to them, I think
that's where we need to get a uh be

1390
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:19,760
prepared for an RFP for request for a
proposal of what we expect out of them,

1391
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:24,880
you know, because we don't want to talk
to I wouldn't think to restaurant tours

1392
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:30,639
unless we know what we expect out of
them.

1393
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:34,800
» Yeah. And definitely um I think I I do
agree with you there. I think uh talking

1394
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:41,280
with them without a uh [clears throat]
you know the RFP is possible. Definitely

1395
02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:45,360
before we start um moving forward with a
single one, we need to have our contract

1396
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:49,920
ready and then if there's any
irreconcilable grievances in that

1397
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:53,840
contract, we can figure that out. But we
want to make sure that that's ready to

1398
02:00:51,199 --> 02:01:00,400
go before we start negotiating.
>> Yeah. But what I'm talking about is what

1399
02:00:56,080 --> 02:01:08,560
do we as the city want to see out of a
restaurant tour? Do we want to

1400
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:13,760
understand one is their
uh fiscal responsibility, how you're

1401
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:19,000
going to staff it, what you think the
hours are going to be, and because

1402
02:01:19,119 --> 02:01:24,719
» that's right. That's right. That's what
I'm saying. I think we need to decide

1403
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:29,840
because for instance with golf
tournaments we need to be able to have

1404
02:01:27,199 --> 02:01:34,480
the restaurant functioning as a
possibility you know of catering to the

1405
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:39,599
golf tournament. So I that's why I'm
saying we need to decide what we want

1406
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:45,599
that restaurant to be and and there
needs to be that put together and how

1407
02:01:43,119 --> 02:01:49,280
would we go about evaluating a
restaurant. you know, do you want a

1408
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:54,239
single
um

1409
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:59,280
type of of of restaurant? Are you
looking for something more general? Are

1410
02:01:56,880 --> 02:02:06,080
you looking for something more formal?
Are you looking for something more um as

1411
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:11,440
a uh golf course kind of restaurant? But
I think we as a council, as a city, need

1412
02:02:08,639 --> 02:02:16,639
to really decide what is it we want. So
we don't go looking for something and

1413
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:20,719
then decide that's really
our citizens.

1414
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:24,880
» Okay, I agree with that. And the
restaurant isn't going to be till like

1415
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:30,400
27, so I think we should send something
out to the people of Meadow Lakes to ask

1416
02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:34,320
them what they want.
>> I think that's a good idea. We did do a

1417
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:38,320
survey a couple long time ago, three
years ago or something, and I think that

1418
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:41,040
there was we had a lot of respondents
talking about the type of food they

1419
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:48,239
want, if I don't,
>> if my memory serves me right. Um, but

1420
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:51,920
you know, I think that maybe it's a good
idea, and I know we have a lot of

1421
02:02:50,239 --> 02:02:56,719
committees, but as the golf course
committee has proven to be useful, maybe

1422
02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:02,239
we need a committee made up of some
citizens to be there to interview some

1423
02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:07,040
of these restaurant tours who express
interest so they can be representing the

1424
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:11,040
people of the the city. You know, not
all of us can can be there to interview

1425
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:16,320
them. So,
either you put a committee together, but

1426
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:20,639
the main thing is how how we want it to
operate. I mean,

1427
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:24,560
» I think that that's going to be spelled
out in a lease agreement, which I've

1428
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:30,320
told Will that we need to start working
on a lease that we want.

1429
02:03:26,239 --> 02:03:34,480
» Yes. But what are our ideas? Do you want
them in the morning? How late do you

1430
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:37,360
want them? Do you want them seven days a
week? That's

1431
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:40,159
» And we can put all of that into a lease
agreement. They have to stick to it. If

1432
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:43,520
they if they don't,
>> but I don't think we should want to

1433
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:45,199
surprise them after they've selected
them. I think we want to tell them up

1434
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:48,320
front.
>> We're going to have to give them a draft

1435
02:03:46,639 --> 02:03:52,320
of the lease and say this is the lease
and can you get comfortable with it?

1436
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:57,199
» I guess I'm thinking more as a request
for proposal. you do an RFP, it's like,

1437
02:03:55,360 --> 02:04:02,159
tell me what you expect your staffing
level to be. Because that's the problem

1438
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:07,840
we've run in here before is that they
didn't staff to make the restaurant, you

1439
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:12,400
know, people didn't like it because the
customer service was so bad. So, that's

1440
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:19,920
what I'm thinking is what are your
anticipated staffing levels, hours,

1441
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:25,679
you know, really more specific. Uh, even
I had one general manager

1442
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:30,239
managing a large country club in Houston
and he said when he put out a proposal

1443
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:35,599
he asked them tell me what the menu is
and I'd like you to cook something so I

1444
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:40,239
can see if it's what we really want. So
I'm I'm talking more not just the

1445
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:46,000
leasing of the restaurant. I'm talking
about how it's going to function and how

1446
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:50,560
does it meet our residents need for what
we're going to do.

1447
02:04:47,679 --> 02:04:55,199
» I think but I agree with Carolyn. Uh but
the the one thing we got to wor worry

1448
02:04:52,320 --> 02:05:01,040
about or consider at least I mean worry
but uh there's this definition a legal

1449
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:06,719
definition of independent contractor and
to the extent that we can avoid it we

1450
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:11,199
don't want to impose on them how how
they have to run their business too

1451
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:14,880
detailed I mean but general I think what
you're talking about is general more

1452
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:20,000
than specific soon as we start getting
into specifics if they go bust we're

1453
02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:23,360
partly responsible because we said you
got to do this and that and that that

1454
02:05:21,599 --> 02:05:24,480
they that is against their will.
>> Sure.

1455
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:28,560
» Yeah.
>> But I'm just asking them to tell us how

1456
02:05:26,639 --> 02:05:32,320
would they do this? What do they expect
the staffing level hours? That kind of

1457
02:05:31,679 --> 02:05:40,280
thing.
>> We know we do. We know how many

1458
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:40,280
restaurants have not survived in metall.

1459
02:05:40,639 --> 02:05:46,960
So I think we need to think about why
they didn't make it. And I think the

1460
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:51,679
biggest problem is they're too expensive
for people who live here. So, I honestly

1461
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:55,800
wanted something a little bit more
simple.

1462
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,800
» Yeah. Well,

1463
02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:06,480
» they have a wonderful
>> Well, I think that it's important that

1464
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:10,320
we um do our due diligence because
whoever we agree to is going to be in

1465
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:12,960
there hopefully for a long time because
it's going to cost us a lot more money

1466
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:16,239
to switch operators,
>> right?

1467
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:18,639
» And we've got a new facility that we
want to make sure that we have good

1468
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:24,960
quality
caters to the audience which is golfers

1469
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:30,480
and swimming and you know the rest so
>> yes but it's it's not just golfers and

1470
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:33,520
that's the thing we have residents that
>> don't

1471
02:06:32,079 --> 02:06:37,360
» but I think what Carolyn what you're
saying is that we don't want to find a

1472
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:40,960
restaurant tour that just plans to open
for breakfast and lunch

1473
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:46,560
» that that we need to make sure that they
intend to be open for breakfast lunch

1474
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:49,119
and dinner because that's what we want
to service the Right.

1475
02:06:48,719 --> 02:06:54,079
» Yeah,
>> I do have a draft RFP. Um, it's not

1476
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:58,880
ready for this meeting, but I can try to
have it ready and send it to you all on

1477
02:06:55,840 --> 02:07:03,920
Friday for review. Um, that way you can
if there's any questions I'm missing in

1478
02:07:01,119 --> 02:07:06,880
there, you can let me know and we can
choose how to proceed from there.

1479
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:13,280
» Okay.
>> But, uh, I I do want to get going and,

1480
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:17,119
uh, talk to some people and at least
gauge their interest in it. Some have

1481
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:19,679
come and I don't want opportunities to
pass us by because I haven't gotten back

1482
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,360
to them.
>> I think we really, really, really need

1483
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:27,199
to think of a bar and grill. I know I've
been asking for that for quite some

1484
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:32,679
time, but I think that's what our people
need.

1485
02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:32,679
» Something simple, reasonable.

1486
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:41,760
» Is everybody on the same page in terms
of maybe forming a committee to

1487
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:46,000
evaluate restaurant
>> operators?

1488
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:51,280
I think there It's good to have, you
know, and have citizen to work with just

1489
02:07:48,719 --> 02:07:53,920
like we did with the golf advisory board
is

1490
02:07:52,159 --> 02:07:54,639
» so they can help evaluate.
>> Yeah.

1491
02:07:54,239 --> 02:07:56,079
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1492
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:59,679
» Okay.
>> And then they could also report to the

1493
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:03,360
council when they
>> narrow it down to the top few

1494
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:09,159
candidates.
>> Okay. Does anyone have any questions or

1495
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:09,159
further comment on that?

1496
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:17,920
» Yeah.
Right.

1497
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:20,000
» Right.
>> Right.

1498
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:23,040
» Well, we'll make sure that they're
included on if we do form a committee

1499
02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:28,719
that they're
>> they have to be, but they have the

1500
02:08:24,639 --> 02:08:34,159
» Yeah, they'll be in the committee. Yeah.
>> Okay. Next item is the uh item six G.

1501
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:39,199
» I think
>> we've already talked about that.

1502
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:43,840
» Middle sales tax. Um
>> why did we conclude exactly on that? We

1503
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:47,360
discuss it or further
>> I think we concluded that we're going to

1504
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:49,920
table it for now because
>> it

1505
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:53,119
» okay but for further for further uh
>> further research yeah

1506
02:08:51,679 --> 02:09:01,360
» research
>> okay item 6H is uh discussion about the

1507
02:08:57,679 --> 02:09:06,560
um 2026 audit engagement letter
>> so this is uh kind of paperwork that we

1508
02:09:04,079 --> 02:09:12,159
file every or that we sign every year
with a third party auditor um Nefandor

1509
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:19,440
from Blocker has been our
auditor for the last several years.

1510
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:23,760
They are
very attentive to detail. They've caught

1511
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:28,960
mistakes in other communities and have
no problem pulling them out even if it

1512
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:34,880
leads to them getting fired, which is uh
you know, we want them be my vote to go

1513
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:40,880
with them again if I got a vote on this.
Uh and the cost this year or this coming

1514
02:09:38,719 --> 02:09:45,119
year would be 22,850
which is not a gigantic raise. I think

1515
02:09:42,719 --> 02:09:49,280
last year is about 21,000.
So their their costs have gone up a

1516
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:51,440
little bit so they pass that along to us
>> and that's what we have in our budget

1517
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:54,679
right now.
>> That's right.

1518
02:09:55,040 --> 02:10:05,440
» Mr. Mr. Mayor, I I move that we accept
the uh endorsement the letter for

1519
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:11,920
Nefendor and Blocker as our auditor.
>> Okay. Is there a second?

1520
02:10:08,159 --> 02:10:16,960
» Any further discussion before we vote?
>> Take a vote. All in favor?

1521
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:20,719
» Passes unanimously.
>> The next one is the one that I asked to

1522
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:25,360
be on the agenda. Can I move that for
the next meeting?

1523
02:10:23,119 --> 02:10:28,920
I just assume
just make a motion.

1524
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:35,440
» We did have our city attorney come
tonight. Just so you're aware,

1525
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:41,560
» we do have our city attorney.
>> She can't be in on this discussion.

1526
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:41,560
» Sorry.

1527
02:10:47,599 --> 02:10:53,440
Um,
>> so would you like to move to

1528
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:57,719
» like table
>> table this to the next meeting?

1529
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:06,159
» Is there
>> I'm sorry.

1530
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:12,599
Are there any further comments by the
council that

1531
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:12,599
» we can ask questions?

1532
02:11:14,719 --> 02:11:19,119
» Excuse me. Are we paying her
>> to be here?

1533
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:22,800
» Of course.
>> Yes.

1534
02:11:19,599 --> 02:11:27,040
» Well, then she should speak.
>> No, I was want to ask this to be on the

1535
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:33,199
agenda. It has to be in executive
session. cannot do this or she

1536
02:11:31,199 --> 02:11:36,639
» well it's not the item is not in
executive session

1537
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:41,440
» can you put it in there
>> we can go into executive session now and

1538
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:44,880
discuss what you have to say
to

1539
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:50,400
» we didn't have that on the agenda on the
agenda any uh any item can be added

1540
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:54,800
» or can talk louder
>> sorry

1541
02:11:52,159 --> 02:11:58,639
I'll speak of the mic sorry uh if I'm
understanding Texas law correctly and

1542
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:03,599
Alisandra, please correct me if I'm
wrong. Um, any item can be moved into

1543
02:12:02,079 --> 02:12:07,280
executive session through a vote of the
city council.

1544
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:12,079
» Yes.
>> Yeah.

1545
02:12:09,679 --> 02:12:15,920
» Is there a motion to move to executive
session right now?

1546
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:20,440
» If we have to discuss this now.
>> Okay. Is there a second?

1547
02:12:21,679 --> 02:12:25,079
» All in favor?

1548
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:37,840
carries. Okay. So, we are going to go
into executive session.

1549
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:41,920
» We're going to take the other items
first and then go to executive session.

1550
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:46,719
» Yeah, we can do both executive sessions.
>> Oh, that was the last item. I guess

1551
02:12:45,199 --> 02:12:48,800
» there's two executive sessions.
>> Yes,

1552
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:53,760
» there there are. But correct me if I'm
wrong, Alexis. Can we can we do talk

1553
02:12:52,079 --> 02:12:56,760
about both topics in the executive
session?

1554
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:03,159
» Okay.

1555
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:09,440
» Right.
>> Okay.

1556
02:13:07,599 --> 02:13:12,800
» Do you need to be in on the on the one
where we talk salary treatment?

1557
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:16,159
» Well, she shouldn't.
>> Yeah. Okay.

1558
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:20,560
» She usually on the phone, but she's
here.

1559
02:13:16,639 --> 02:13:27,119
» She's in executive session for the
for the salary discussion

1560
02:13:22,639 --> 02:13:31,760
» for item 6J. Yes. So, okay. We are now
moved to executive session.

1561
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:34,760
» Can we take item 6J first?
>> Yeah.

1562
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:47,440
» She said that we have to come back out
and then [clears throat] move into that

1563
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:49,760
executive session. So, let's go ahead
and get this one. You don't want to

1564
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:52,719
wait. Make her wait.
>> No, I don't want to make her wait. So,

1565
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:56,960
she
>> I didn't know she was going to be here.

1566
02:13:54,159 --> 02:14:02,320
Nobody told me that.
>> Okay.

1567
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:05,800
» So, Okay. We'll be right back.
>> We've got to

1568
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:16,719
» Okay. Is there a motion to move to
executive session?

1569
02:14:14,239 --> 02:14:21,679
» We did. We already did.
>> Yes. So, now you have to the

1570
02:14:18,719 --> 02:14:24,679
» Oh, okay. All right. We're now executive
session.

1571
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:31,239
» Either way,

1572
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:37,400
» yeah.

1573
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,800
» Uh

1574
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:49,520
she says

1575
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:59,223
I agree. Put it back on there. Get out
of here. [laughter]

1576
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:30,520
I put some chairs in there.

1577
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:17,159
He's

1578
02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:27,880
very very

1579
02:16:42,960 --> 02:16:46,120
That was

1580
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:14,519
So

1581
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:37,719
blessing.

1582
02:17:52,559 --> 02:17:55,639
There are

1583
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,120
This is

1584
02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:35,559
something.

1585
02:19:36,880 --> 02:19:40,040
Tell me.

1586
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:18,840
That's not

1587
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:05,960
Did you see that script?
It's so narrow.

1588
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:28,760
return.

1589
02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:49,080
We can't get

1590
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:16,680
I'm going to put that together.

1591
02:23:46,880 --> 02:23:50,760
They can't even get out.

1592
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:14,600
71

1593
02:27:32,319 --> 02:27:35,680
How's David doing?

1594
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:46,680
That's what

1595
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:06,560
you know what I'm talking about inviting
And then

1596
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:55,240
I don't know.

1597
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:26,120
entrance to the

1598
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:29,240
shed.

1599
02:30:12,800 --> 02:30:16,280
that you put in.

1600
02:30:26,960 --> 02:30:31,960
It's good.
I'm just saying

1601
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:47,160
We don't know.

1602
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,280
You can't

1603
02:34:18,880 --> 02:34:22,760
know where they disappear to.

1604
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:36,359
One of them

1605
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:49,720
more session.

1606
02:34:53,359 --> 02:34:57,160
We were counting on you.

1607
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:09,760
» Oh, I love their pizzas.
>> I get the margarita. So, I eat half for

1608
02:35:08,399 --> 02:35:15,560
lunch and now I'm gonna have the other
half for dinner.

1609
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:15,560
» Could you please

1610
02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:27,240
Oh, I know. It's just that I'm not

1611
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:37,520
Yeah, we can put something.
>> Okay, we're back and we are out of

1612
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:44,240
executive session
for item uh 6 I where we discuss duties

1613
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:51,120
and responsibilities of the city
attorney services. We're moving on to um

1614
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:59,680
The last item, item 6J, where we need to
discuss an employees performance per the

1615
02:35:54,160 --> 02:36:04,080
Texas Governmental Code section 551.074.
And for that, we have to break into an

1616
02:36:01,359 --> 02:36:08,200
executive session again. So, do we have
a motion to move to

1617
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:15,520
Oh, I'm sorry.
In reference to item 6, we are not

1618
02:36:13,120 --> 02:36:20,160
taking any action
regarding the duties and responsibil

1619
02:36:17,439 --> 02:36:25,800
City Attorney Services.
Is everybody in favor of that? Do we

1620
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:25,800
need to

1621
02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:40,120
» Okay. Yeah, we can. Do you want to bring
that up? And

1622
02:36:35,840 --> 02:36:40,120
» do we need to make a motion to

1623
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:46,520
» Okay.

1624
02:36:49,439 --> 02:36:56,319
We just have to say what we discussed.
Okay.

1625
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:57,920
» Not necessarily.
>> What we decided.

1626
02:36:57,200 --> 02:37:05,280
» Yes. Correct.
>> Okay. Okay. Um and and as you said, we

1627
02:37:01,439 --> 02:37:10,720
decided to maintain the um a
relationship with our current city

1628
02:37:07,600 --> 02:37:16,800
attorney for all municipal matters. Uh
but for a special project, we may use an

1629
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:21,720
outside U. firm, another firm,
>> right? Okay. Any other comment?

1630
02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:27,319
» So, second,
>> no, we just

1631
02:37:27,439 --> 02:37:35,840
moving on to item 6J. Um,
we need to break out to executive

1632
02:37:32,960 --> 02:37:39,200
session to discuss employee performance.
Uh, do I have a motion to move to

1633
02:37:38,319 --> 02:37:43,840
executive session?
>> I move that we move. I move

1634
02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:48,359
» second. All in favor? Hi.
>> Okay, we are now in executive session.

1635
02:39:24,319 --> 02:39:26,560
There's

1636
02:39:53,120 --> 02:39:56,120
Thomas.

1637
02:40:16,240 --> 02:40:19,560
This is how

1638
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:34,600
Thank you.

1639
02:41:19,680 --> 02:41:22,840
Thank you.

1640
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:39,720
Is that why they have

1641
02:46:55,040 --> 02:46:58,359
I have to

1642
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:30,120
Yeah,

1643
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:42,200
Foreign

1644
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:51,479
Young We'll actually go forward.

1645
02:53:04,479 --> 02:53:07,479
Another

1646
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:18,760
What's he good for?

1647
02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:21,479
She doesn't get

1648
02:59:21,840 --> 02:59:25,000
I know.

1649
03:00:52,399 --> 03:00:55,399
speech. Speech. Speech.

1650
03:01:33,120 --> 03:01:36,439
all the time.

1651
03:02:07,120 --> 03:02:10,920
What size is it?

1652
03:03:40,479 --> 03:03:43,720
I love you.

1653
03:04:20,479 --> 03:04:23,479
What?

1654
03:06:55,520 --> 03:07:01,240
It's
called

1655
03:07:17,359 --> 03:07:20,840
That's cool.

1656
03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:36,760
Somebody

1657
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:43,960
Thank you.

1658
03:08:54,800 --> 03:08:58,359
in the back here

1659
03:09:00,160 --> 03:09:07,880
or something.
Is that his golf? It's gone out. Can he

1660
03:09:04,640 --> 03:09:07,880
play anymore?

1661
03:09:13,200 --> 03:09:17,399
» No, I mean once I do the surgery

1662
03:09:28,960 --> 03:09:31,960
church.

1663
03:10:51,600 --> 03:10:59,319
I think
Caroline

1664
03:10:56,319 --> 03:10:59,319
knowber.

1665
03:11:12,960 --> 03:11:15,960
text

1666
03:11:19,600 --> 03:11:21,760
notific.

1667
03:11:23,520 --> 03:11:26,600
I hear

1668
03:11:32,319 --> 03:11:35,319
something.

1669
03:11:55,840 --> 03:11:59,399
Did somebody leave?

1670
03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:44,880
Okay, we are back in regular session.
The uh council uh discussed item 6K

1671
03:12:42,800 --> 03:12:49,600
related to um
employees performance. Uh, now we can

1672
03:12:48,399 --> 03:12:52,800
move on. I don't think there's anything
else. Does anyone have any comments

1673
03:12:51,120 --> 03:12:55,800
they'd like to to make before we
adjourn?

1674
03:12:56,399 --> 03:13:04,760
» Carolyn has a a comment.
There was a public meeting about

1675
03:13:10,080 --> 03:13:13,080
county.

1676
03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:25,880
They're asking for public

1677
03:13:27,279 --> 03:13:31,640
They're looking for priapity,

1678
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:46,200
safety, transit
planning

1679
03:13:43,200 --> 03:13:46,200
for

1680
03:13:49,520 --> 03:13:58,120
us. Anyway,
we do have the information

1681
03:13:54,560 --> 03:13:58,120
that they are looking

1682
03:13:58,239 --> 03:14:03,600
And
>> I can put that in the uh the uh emailer

1683
03:14:02,319 --> 03:14:06,560
tomorrow if you'd like.
>> I can put that in the email tomorrow.

1684
03:14:06,080 --> 03:14:10,560
» Okay.
>> Yep. I can

1685
03:14:08,399 --> 03:14:15,680
» put a link to it again.
>> Uh

1686
03:14:12,160 --> 03:14:18,560
» anybody else have any comments?
Okay. If there's no further comments, is

1687
03:14:17,520 --> 03:14:21,560
there a motion to
>> adjourn?

1688
03:14:22,239 --> 03:14:28,399
I'll second.
>> All in favor to adjurnn?

1689
03:14:25,920 --> 03:14:32,279
We are
>> 8:05 p.m.

1690
03:14:35,359 --> 03:14:38,600
» By the way,