1 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:19,440 Good morning. I'd like to welcome everybody this 2 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,240 morning. At this time, I call on Miss Blackwell to give a prayer. 3 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:33,680 Dear Lord, we thank you for this opportunity to gather together. May our 4 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:40,279 hearts and minds be united in a common purpose and may we engage in meaningful 5 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:46,480 discussion. Grant us wisdom and discernment and help us to work together 6 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:51,040 effectively. We ask this in your name. Amen. Amen. 7 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,320 At this time, I call this meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of 8 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,320 allegiance. 9 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:04,720 I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 10 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:10,880 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 11 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:15,440 justice for all. Thank you. 12 00:10:12,959 --> 00:10:19,120 Uh, I'd like to announce that anybody that would like to speak during our 13 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:24,079 public hearings when we get to that part, uh, please sign up on the sheet 14 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,839 that's over in the corner over there. I don't want to miss anybody who would 15 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,839 like to 16 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:36,959 speak. You have the minutes, board members. You have the minutes to our 17 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:41,680 April 14th uh 2025 board meeting. I'll entertain a motion to approve. 18 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:46,880 So move, Mr. Chair. Motion been made. All in favor say I. Those opposed. The 19 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:53,680 motion carries. You also have the minutes of our April 24th uh 14th uh 20 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:59,279 meeting. Entertain a motion to approve. Mr. Chair, some move. Motion been made. 21 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:05,240 All in favor say I. I. Opposed. The motion carries. Mr. Hendrick, planning 22 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:05,240 and zoning. 23 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:12,079 Mr. Chairman, for a minute. Before I get started, I would like to introduce uh 24 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Lucky Carson. He is the county new planner that just came on board. 25 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:21,040 Okay. Welcome. We c certainly welcome you to 26 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:25,760 the county. Good to have you. I think you'll do the county a great job. Okay, 27 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,240 the first application we have is a request by Michael Obby for a special 28 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:35,240 exception permit to operate an ATV repair shop on the property. This 29 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:41,120 property identified as county tax number 1420000- 30 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:46,959 A-00481 and partial record number 38416 is owned as agricultural is located on 31 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:51,360 the west side of route 789 B road and approximately a half mile north of his 32 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:57,880 intersection with route 735 White House Road election district 9 county mechan 33 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,880 reference the book LR-17-841 34 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:07,360 okay election district does. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to make a motion we 35 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,720 accept the special exemption permit application based off the planning 36 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:15,839 commission. Well, we got public hearing. Uh we'll 37 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:20,480 now open the public hearing on this application. Any anybody wish to speak 38 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,480 on behalf of the 39 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:29,560 application hearing? None. We'll open the public hearing for this application. 40 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Anybody wishing to speak? 41 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:39,360 Hearing none. District nine. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion we accept the 42 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:44,279 special exemption permit application based off the planning commission's 43 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,279 recommendation. 44 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:54,399 All in favor of the motion? I. All oppose. Motion carries. Thank you. 45 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,800 You have an application request by Garland Pill for a special exception for 46 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:04,639 a third residence home on the property. This 47 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:04,639 property identified as county tax number 48 00:13:05,079 --> 00:13:13,680 14500-09-01 and partial rocket number 39332 is zone agricultures located on 49 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:17,519 the east side of route 871 Sandy Fork Road approximately half mile south of 50 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:22,120 his intersection with highway 58 election district 1 county of 51 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:28,040 Meckllinburgg reference the book BNP 163-453 and wheelb WF 20-429 52 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:33,760 okay anybody wishing to speak on behalf of 53 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:40,399 application hearing. None. I'll open the public hearing. Anyone wishing to 54 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:46,000 speak hearing? No one. I will close the public hearing. District one. Yes, sir. 55 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:51,519 I recommend that we receive special acceptance permit for the application of 56 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:56,800 Garnet Pitter uh recommended by the planning commission. Okay. Motion's been 57 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:03,920 made. All in favor of the motion say I. Opposed. And the motion carries. 58 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:07,440 On Monday, May 12th, 2025, it is at his meeting beginning at 9:30 a.m. in the 59 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,120 board of supervisors meeting room of the Goose Bank building located 350 60 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:15,920 Washington Street, Boon, Virginia 23917. The Mechmber County Board of 61 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:19,120 Supervisors will conduct a public hearing for the proposed of receiving 62 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:23,279 public comment on proposed solar facility sighting agreement and proposed 63 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:28,720 sighting development conditions between seven bridges solar 64 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:33,639 LLC County to set out perimeters related to his proposed 80 megawatt facility 65 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:37,600 covers county partial rocket 7779. At the conclusion of the public 66 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,519 hearing, the board may adopt the solar facility sighting agreement and proposed 67 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:46,160 sighting development conditions as is. may adopt the agreement and conditions 68 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:51,720 with modifications. May decline to adopt the agreement and conditions or may 69 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:55,800 defer actions to a later board meeting. Okay. Anyone wishing to speak on behalf 70 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,800 of the application? Clif. 71 00:15:15,839 --> 00:15:23,959 All right. Good morning, supervisors, uh, board chair, staff. Thank you very 72 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:29,519 much for giving us this time to you this morning. Um, as you all know, I'm Cliff 73 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Sher. I work for Long Road Energy. I'm a development director. We are a 74 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:40,399 developer, owner, and operator of renewable energy projects. Uh we're 75 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:44,600 active across the country and we've been developing the seven bridges solar 76 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:50,320 project uh since 2017. 77 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Um as you've gotten uh handouts this morning that include this presentation 78 00:15:52,560 --> 00:16:01,199 and also some information on the uh some of the supporters. Um we also have other 79 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:06,639 other supporters beyond those uh emails that are in the uh binder that you 80 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:11,279 received this morning. But first to zoom out a little bit, I just want to uh 81 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:17,720 share some information on solar is that it is a a proven technology. It's in 82 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:26,720 demand by uh utilities, corporate customers, um small businesses and and 83 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:33,040 residences. Uh in 2024, 50,000 megawatts of solar was added to the grid versus 84 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:38,920 only 2400 megawatts of gas. And part of the reason for that is because the cost 85 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:45,920 of solar has fallen over 80% since 2009. So on a a levelized cost of energy 86 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:50,759 basis on average solar uh the levelized cost of energy is solar is lower than 87 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:57,040 any other power generation technology. Now to get more local in 88 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:03,600 2023 Virginia imported more electricity than any other state. that 36% of the 89 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:08,640 electricity supply in 2023 came from outside Virginia and Virginia energy 90 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:13,760 demand is expected to double in the next 10 91 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:19,280 years. So it seems clear that there's a need for more sources of energy to meet 92 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:24,480 the demands of businesses and residents. Um and as most people know our project 93 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,000 is located just over about three and a half miles outside of Chase City. 94 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:34,400 There's existing transmission infrastructure there that is key to 95 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:40,240 connecting to the grid. Now, since 2017, when we first got a contract in place 96 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:45,600 with the land owner, uh the project area has been reduced by 50% incorporating 97 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:51,679 feedback from the community and others. The project itself is is well cited with 98 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:56,320 minimal to no visibility of the solar project from public roads or neighbors. 99 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,600 and we've been communicating with you all and with the community as a whole 100 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:07,440 throughout that development time. The uh community feedback that 101 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:11,760 we've received include um well sparked us to do a number of things to address 102 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:17,919 that feedback and one of those things is conserving 250 acres between our project 103 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:23,520 and the South Marin River. Another is that we've we often get the the question 104 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:28,320 um how is this project going to affect my electricity rates? And we sell 105 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:33,760 electricity into the wholesale market. But what we found is a way to help 106 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:39,360 people through a utility bill assistance program that the Ruren Club is already 107 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:44,799 running. We're planning to make a donation to that program to expand that 108 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:47,919 program across Meckllinburgg County. And the thing that we like about their 109 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,320 program is that it can be used by customers of Dominion or Meckllinmberg 110 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Electric Cooperative. Um, we also added a western 111 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:04,720 access road to uh Highway 49 Courthouse Road to reduce construction traffic 112 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:08,480 impacts on Scott's Crossroad. Um, and part of that relates to there's been 113 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,799 talk of good neighbor agreements. you all. Um, I've just submitted the the 114 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:18,240 original hard copy of the affidavit that I shared with the county earlier 115 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:22,799 confirming that we are not utilizing good neighbor agreements on this 116 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:28,160 project. Um, we haven't had discussions on that since early 2024. Since that 117 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:33,400 time, we've added a construction access road to the to the west that addresses 118 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:38,400 the concerns that um people had about construction impacts 119 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:44,160 on Scott's Crossroads. So, the sighting agreement that was uh 120 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:48,720 submitted late last year includes the changes that I just mentioned, the 250 121 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:53,760 acres and the western access road and also includes the commitment that we've 122 00:19:50,799 --> 00:20:00,720 made to Chase City years ago to help the town uh through a donation of 500,000 as 123 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:08,240 well as the increased an increase in capital payments to Meckllinburgg County 124 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:13,039 payable uh up all up to within the third 30 days of project operations. So that 125 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:18,000 increases from 2 million to 2.5 million. And then there's revenue share payments 126 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:24,000 as is Virginia law that total more than 7 million over the project life. Now to 127 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:30,559 get into the the details of the project on the top row of pictures here are 128 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:35,360 existing conditions. The bottom is uh simulations of after our project is 129 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:39,120 installed. So you could see the existing access road that would be improved 130 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,760 during construction on Scott's Crossroads is the picture on the left. 131 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:47,919 The middle picture is another view from Scots Crossroads. And the picture on the 132 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:54,480 right is a view of a location where there would be that's not along the 133 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:59,760 roads or um or the Scots Crossroad or at South Marin. That's a view actually 134 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:04,600 where there's 150 ft uh setback from the property boundary. So, as you can see, 135 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:12,240 the project is well shielded from neighbors. Uh, this map includes the 250 136 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:19,039 acre uh conservation area on the north side of the project. And you could see 137 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:24,080 on the east there's setbacks of 400 to greater than 2,000 ft from Scott's 138 00:21:21,159 --> 00:21:29,360 Crossroads. To the south, there's a 1500 acre timber property that the owner 139 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:35,840 plans to continue to operate as a timber property. and highway 49 courthouse road 140 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:42,320 is threequarters of a mile to the west. So, as you can see, this project is well 141 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:48,559 shielded. And also, um it's worth noting that while our project has been 142 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:54,080 downsized from 942 acres to 435 over the 8-year development 143 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:59,679 timeline, that uh fenced remainder remaining fence footprint would provide 144 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:06,159 approximately 390 acres potentially for sheep grazing. So it would provide uh uh 145 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:10,960 we're working with uh farmers in southside Virginia to provide support to 146 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,840 the agricultural community and they in service would help us maintain our 147 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:19,760 project location. Here is another view from the 148 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,400 South Maharan River. You can see the hill sloping across the river up towards 149 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:30,799 the project site. That would be in the 250 acre conservation area. So the 150 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:39,039 project is uphill from the South Marin River well screened with a healthy 151 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:43,520 setback. Now since this is the uh discussion on the sighting agreement 152 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:49,039 included here a summary on the economic benefits of the project. During 153 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:54,799 construction the project is expected to support over $30 million in economic 154 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:59,600 output. That includes 17 million in direct spending and 14 million in 155 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:05,919 indirect and induced spending and that's strictly in Meckllinmberg County 156 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:11,000 impacts. Um I mentioned the revenue to Chase City and Meckllinburgg County 157 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:16,960 already. During construction we expect over 150 construction jobs resulting in 158 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,840 more than $5 million in labor income. And we also uh plan to utilize solar 159 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:27,360 panels made by First Solar. We have a long-standing relationship with First 160 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:34,159 Solar supported by over 16,000 American jobs across their their company and 161 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:39,280 their supply chain. We have um over our uh Long Road Energy's development 162 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:44,640 career, we've utilized over 1,600 megawatts of first solar panels and we 163 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:49,120 look forward to continuing to do that. So, I'll close with this as you know, 164 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:53,600 just pointing out that we have not just a proven track record in Meckllinburgg 165 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:57,600 County, but listening to communities and answering tough questions and addressing 166 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:02,240 concerns, but also all across the country. So, we look forward to uh 167 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,080 having the opportunity to continue to move this project forward and would 168 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:12,080 appreciate your vote in support of the sighting agreement. Thank you. 169 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:17,600 All right. Thank you, Cliff. Um, before we open the public hearing on this, I'd 170 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:23,279 like to remind everyone to please state your name and your address. You'll have 171 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:29,039 three minutes to speak and we uh stick to that rule uh very strictly. Uh 172 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:34,880 please, I'm sure there are different opinions. Uh please be respectful for 173 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:39,279 everyone and their opinion. And with all that being said, I would 174 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:45,600 like to open the public hearing on the sighting agreement for the seven bridges 175 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:53,000 project. Mr. Chair, we have 20 people currently signed up to speak. Um the 176 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,000 first speaker is Lori Huber. 177 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Good morning everyone. My name is Lori Huber. My 178 00:24:59,159 --> 00:25:08,400 husband and I are here. visit 14174 Highway 58 in Boon. We're here this 179 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:11,760 morning to urge the members of the board to approve the seven bridges solar 180 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,320 project. I see that you have it split into two parts where it's favor of you 181 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:20,840 approving both of them. Uh one of the first things covered in an economics 182 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:27,279 class is the law of supply and demand. And it says when supply exceeds 183 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:32,960 demand prices fall and when demand exceeds supply prices rise. 184 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:38,720 The price of a gallon of gas right now is is down because the price of a barrel 185 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:45,200 of oil is about $60 a barrel. That's very, very low. In fact, when it drops 186 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:50,080 below $60 a barrel, it folks who are producing the oil for us to use in our 187 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:53,360 car and other things lose money, so they stop 188 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:57,120 producing. That brings things back up again. And that balance between supply 189 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:02,200 and demand, the cost goes up a little bit and they get back to creating the 190 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:09,039 the gasoline we need for our vehicles. The law of supply and demand 191 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:11,360 and applies to everything, food, houses, and 192 00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:18,880 electricity. The demand for electricity in Virginia and in Meckllinmberg County 193 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:24,080 in particular is high and getting higher every day. And that's due to the fact 194 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:28,640 that we have data centers and we're getting more of them all the time. 195 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:34,880 Remember, when supply exceeds demand, prices fall. And when demand exceeds 196 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:40,000 supply, prices rise. You can make a good decision here today and approve the 197 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:45,360 seven bridges solar project. A project that will increase the supply of 198 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:50,799 electricity. The project will do this for 30 years or more. The presentation 199 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:54,919 we just heard it cited 40 years. This project will do it without 200 00:26:53,039 --> 00:27:02,720 having mining operations for things like coal or for 201 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:07,919 pipelines that can leak for things like gas or 202 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:13,200 oil. It will not depend on the constant replenishing of fuels. It will not be 203 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:20,159 subject to the fluctuations in the price of those fuels driven by supply and 204 00:27:16,919 --> 00:27:25,760 demand. Don't lead but don't let demand exceed supply and leave us with high 205 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:30,919 prices for electricity or at work literally sitting in the dark. Thank 206 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:30,919 you. 207 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:36,760 The next speaker who signed up is Derwood Grizzard. 208 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:52,720 My wife Sandra and I live at the intersection of Scots 209 00:27:49,159 --> 00:27:58,880 Crossroads and Honey Tree Road. We have 2 and 10 acres which have been in the 210 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:05,080 family for 85 years and our boundary has about a quarter of a mile adjoined plan 211 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,559 uh solar project. that plan uh which I've seen 212 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:18,000 several places uh showed 150 ft or 50 yards from our 213 00:28:15,399 --> 00:28:21,279 property. They said they would improve this 214 00:28:19,159 --> 00:28:29,279 situation. Have I've not seen an improved plan until a few minutes ago. 215 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:36,640 Uh they gave me the approved plan which is 250 ft which is probably 200 feet 216 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:40,600 less than I would like to see. You have probably seen the solar project 217 00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:48,760 off road 49 on the way to Chase City. This is one 218 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:55,679 and a half miles from the main stoplight in Chase City. And you if you 219 00:28:52,559 --> 00:29:02,760 go there, you can see how bad that looks at about 450 ft from the highway. And 220 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:13,480 you can imagine how it would look 150 feet or 50 yards from our 221 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:21,679 property. Uh I had uh given a a report to the 222 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:26,960 u Mr. Hendris which I won't read now. I think y'all have already it's been 223 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:31,000 distributed to you. But there has been some 224 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:37,120 discussions about good neighbor agreements. Uh there was one at the last 225 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:44,799 meeting here. Also articles have been written in the local paper. Uh I would 226 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:52,000 like to state here that my wife and I have received two of these agreements. 227 00:29:49,039 --> 00:30:02,000 Uh the first one we received probably back in about June and uh it was seven 228 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:12,000 pages long and on that one my wife and I were agreed as a uh neighbor and uh 229 00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:20,240 uh the longwood draft is at the top of the page. Uh, and this puts a lot of 230 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:26,760 restraints on us if we sign this, which we did not. And uh I might say that I 231 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:33,440 have not been contacted by the solar company 232 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:39,399 personally over the phone to discuss this, but it did show up in my mailbox 233 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:47,360 uh postmarked and it has a lot of 234 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:54,480 uh requirements on us not to talk about this, not to complain. 235 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:59,919 uh the uh setback of 150 ft was in the agreement which now they say they 236 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:05,760 changed it to 250. And also it's a secret thing. I'm not supposed to be 237 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:11,679 telling anybody about this. And uh I'm not bound to that because I didn't sign 238 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:18,159 it. Has a place on here for us to sign. And then on here 239 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:25,799 also it has a place that we can uh return this to seven bridges solar that 240 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:32,080 general council in San Francisco. 241 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Uh and also on here the payment to be made to us is two payments, one for 242 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:45,279 $2,000 and one for $10,000. Uh the second one we got 243 00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:52,559 uh we got it fairly right after the last meeting we had here. Uh and it's a 244 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:56,760 little bit strange. It's addressed in pencil 245 00:31:54,159 --> 00:32:02,480 uh to 63 Scots Crossroads 246 00:31:59,159 --> 00:32:10,159 23194. There's no name on here to say who it's coming to. It doesn't mention 247 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:16,320 uh Chase City, Virginia. Uh it's just crudely like this. And uh Mr. Grizz, I'm 248 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:23,279 I'm going to have to stop you now. I'm sorry. Okay. But uh I will stop. But 249 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:26,679 only thing I will tell you that this went from 250 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,159 $12,000 to $100,000 on the money. 251 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:37,080 Our next signed up speaker is Lisa Davis Bishop. 252 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Good morning. Good morning. Morning. My name is Lisa Davis Bishop and I live at 253 00:32:52,399 --> 00:33:01,960 1645 Scotch Crossroads. I've lived there all my life. almost that maybe three 254 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:09,840 years I was not there. Um I would ask that each of you please 255 00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:15,399 approach this from my point of view. Do unto others as you would have them do 256 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:20,080 unto you. Put yourself in my shoes that you're going to lose your 257 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,080 home to 258 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:28,559 this. I ask that you please vote against the solar project on Scotch Crossroads. 259 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:35,080 The reasons I'm opposed are numerous. Solar is not effective or efficient. At 260 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:40,320 most, they are 16% effective, which is dismal. Where would they be disposed of 261 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:44,399 once they're used? No landfill will accept 262 00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:49,279 them. Solar projects are paid by the acre, paid for by the acre by the 263 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:54,240 government. So, we all will pay to further enrich the land owner, Dominion, 264 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:58,240 and Long Road or Seven Bridges. uh none of whom need more 265 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:02,720 money. This is being done to provide a thin veneer of green to Dominion, 266 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:08,720 Microsoft, and the data centers. Our electric bills will actually go up. Let 267 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:12,720 that sink in. They will actually go up. We will be subject to brownouts that 268 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,399 such as the ones that just occurred in Spain and 269 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:21,359 Portugal. Keep in mind, we now have Amish families who have moved in on 47 270 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:26,560 and Scotch crossroads who will be run down by the work trucks. 271 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:30,240 Not to mention the trash. Please go down Spanish Grove Road if you want to see 272 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:35,359 what it looks like when the solar panel people come to you a location near 273 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:39,520 you. It's the biggest mess you've ever seen. It's so 274 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:44,399 sad. There will be no jobs for Meckllinmberg County. The workers will 275 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,359 come in from somewhere else. They might stay in South Hill temporarily, but 276 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,599 Chase City will get nothing but the blight of solar panels that no one 277 00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:56,000 wants. No one will go to Graham's Hardware from Longwood for supplies. If 278 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:59,440 solar panels were so great, they'd be having them all over the county, 279 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,839 including South Hill and Clarksville, not just Chase City. I'm very 280 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,520 disappointed that I even have to come here and talk about this. I thought I 281 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:13,480 had to take off work to be here today. I I I find it unbelievable that I 282 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:18,880 have to come and and and beg to stop outside interests from 283 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:24,640 ruining my home. I need you guys to do that for me. All 284 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:29,200 growth is not good. Please stop it. Remember that trees are green. Cutting 285 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:34,560 down trees and replacing them with solar panels is not green. You'll be creating 286 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:39,040 a small city on the Maharan River. Solar panels will channel water causing 287 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:44,000 erosion and water quality issues. Solar panels cannot disperse water the way a 288 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:49,079 tree can. And I almost forgot, solar panels often spark fires when they 289 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:53,280 malfunction. I get this from a Dominion employee. Uh, catching fire to the 290 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:58,240 grasses under them. Won't that be a mess to clean up for us? Meckllinburgg County 291 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:03,040 will get to clean it up. To me, the solar promise is a beautiful lie. It's 292 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:07,560 too good to be true. You want to believe that beautiful lie, but it's not true. 293 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,839 The ugly truth is it doesn't work efficiently. And those who profit will 294 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,960 care nothing about the people that live on Scotch Crossroads or Chase City or 295 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,079 Meckllinburgg County. You know, the ones that will have to suffer the 296 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,200 consequences if this abomination is allowed to continue. Please might save 297 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:29,680 my home on a quiet farm surrounded by peaceful neighbors and other farmers. 298 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,280 Meckllinburgg County needs farms. We do not need solar 299 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:37,680 panels. I'm afraid they just want their foot in the door and this thing will 300 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:41,680 expand and blow up exponentially. And if you want to 301 00:36:38,839 --> 00:36:45,520 conserve land by the Maharan River, you can conserve all of it by rejecting this 302 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:50,280 project. Thank you so much for your time. Thank 303 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,280 you. 304 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:58,400 Let me before our next speaker, let me 305 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:04,480 remind y'all uh please don't have any applause, anything. And uh regardless or 306 00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:08,960 you dislike what the person is saying or you totally endorse what they're saying, 307 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:13,520 you know, we're not we're not at a national championship game here. We're 308 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:17,520 here to have a public hearing to uh let people express 309 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:23,960 themselves. So uh please keep that in mind if you would. The next signed up 310 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:23,960 speaker is Susan Mullen. 311 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:43,520 Good morning. My name is Susan Spalding M Mullen and I 312 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:48,800 grew up in Chase City with my parents and both my maternal and paternal 313 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:55,040 grandparents. It was a wonderful place to grow up. But today when I visit Chase 314 00:37:51,839 --> 00:38:00,599 City, I leave sad. Coming through Chase City this morning, I see that Pallet One 315 00:37:57,359 --> 00:38:00,599 is closing. 316 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:09,920 Chase City used to be the most populous town in the county. 317 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:13,839 But today it's not the same. Clarksville has the lake and good 318 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,720 restaurants. South Hill has the interstate and restaurants. Betton has 319 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:23,440 the county seat. Chase City does not have any of 320 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:29,839 that. And the first thing I want to say is Chase City needs additional sources 321 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:35,200 of income for a new elementary school. hopefully with solar panels on the 322 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:42,480 roof, perhaps high teacher pay, perhaps a municipal park, anything to brighten 323 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:51,960 its future. Chase City desperately needs this project. Secondly, I believe in 324 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:58,560 solar power. Solar energy is clean, it's affordable, and it is part of the energy 325 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:05,480 mix we need today. But the fact and and sadly it's so sad 326 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:12,320 that Grasshopper poisoned the well in J City for so long. But the fact that Long 327 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:16,640 Road is still here after eight years is because they know they have the right 328 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:23,880 site and have been willing to work with local residents and officials to address 329 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:28,880 any and all concerns. This is a winwin. Chase City needs it. We need the 330 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:33,960 clean power and we need the revenue for Chase City. In closing, I'd like to 331 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:40,560 leave you with my favorite quote. If God had wanted us to have 332 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:47,240 unlimited free power, he would have put a massive fusion reactor in the 333 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:52,760 sky. I'm closed. Thank you. The next speaker is John Mullen. 334 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:10,720 Good morning. My name is John Mullen. I'm here on behalf of my family. Uh 335 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:14,880 Susan and I reside in Charlotte County. Um eight years ago, we began working 336 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,119 with Long Road Energy on the Seven Bridges project. They've been a great 337 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:23,760 partner in addressing concerns raised by the citizens in this portion of in this 338 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:29,920 portion of Meckllinburgg County. Long Road has a contract to purchase 1,250 339 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:34,640 acres of a 7 2750 acre timber track owned by my family in the J City area of 340 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:38,480 Meckllinburgg County. One side of the solar project will 341 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:44,079 continue to be managed as a 1500 acre timber tract and another side will be 342 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:49,359 bounded by the 250 acre permanent easement along the South Maron River. 343 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,960 The project also is also adjacent to a 600 acre track owned by Microsoft which 344 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,920 has been reszoned for industrial development. Some of the pre-eread 345 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:03,160 material indicated this track contain quote prime farmland. Uh while there may 346 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:07,440 be selected portions that fall into that category, it's been managed as a timber 347 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:12,240 track for over a hundred years because that was the highest and best use for 348 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:17,200 this property rather than farming until the seven bridges solar development 349 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,880 option came along. I farm corn, soybeans, and winter wheat in Charlotte 350 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:25,520 County. And I can assure you that the vast majority of this tract is not quote 351 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:31,920 prime farmland close quote. Chairman Jennings um also farms next to the tract 352 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,960 and I believe he might agree. Um there are already two transmission lines 353 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,119 running through the Mullen family holdings track and we've just signed an 354 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,200 agreement with Dominion Power to provide a rightway for a third transmission 355 00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:47,599 line. As you know, one of the main requirements for a solar project is 356 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:52,000 access and transmission. So experts knowledgeable about solar think that the 357 00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:56,240 seven bridges site is one of the best if not the best solar sites in the entire 358 00:41:54,160 --> 00:42:01,119 state. Uh while there's some controversy about 359 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:07,440 this obviously from prior speakers um because of the timber that u is mature 360 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:13,680 that will form the border uh this site actually is probably not visible except 361 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:18,240 by air and traffic congestion congestion during construction will be mitigated by 362 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:23,839 entrances from both Route 49 and Scots Crossroad with Route 49 designated for 363 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:27,920 heavy loads. The seven bridges project is clearly the highest and best use for 364 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:31,599 this portion of my family's holding my family's property and it's been 365 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:36,800 greenlighted twice by the planning commission including affirmation that 366 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:41,839 our 2232 is grandfathered as part of the 2500 acre solar set aside that predates 367 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:46,319 the updated long range plan for Mechenburgg County. 368 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,160 We've been good stewards of this property for the past 33 years and I 369 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,160 firmly believe Long Road will continue that tradition if this project moves 370 00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:57,280 forward. Hopefully the board will recognize the significant personal 371 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,920 property rights associated with the quote highest and best use concept close 372 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:06,160 quote particularly given Long Road to Energy's efforts to address express 373 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:10,960 concerns and the long-term investment this project represents not just for my 374 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:16,119 family of Chase City but for mechany's business community and its use of 375 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:22,760 electricity. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next speaker 376 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,760 is Joel Cathy. 377 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:41,119 Good morning. Good morning. My name is Joel Kathy. I live in Keysville, 378 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Virginia. Um I'm I'm a forest land owner in Meckllinburgg County. Um 379 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:51,200 I've been a forester in Southside Virginia for the past 45 years. Um, I'm 380 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:56,119 past president of Virginia Forestry Association. I served two terms on the 381 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:59,680 board of directors for the Department of Forestry. I've been fortunate to have 382 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,160 managed the land being proposed for this solar farm since the Mullen family 383 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:08,800 purchased this land about 33 years ago. I'm probably as familiar with this piece 384 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:12,720 of property as anybody in this room. Long Road has listened to the concerns 385 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:16,480 and feedback from both Charlotte from both the county and the citizens has 386 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,720 made numerous changes which have made the layout even 387 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:25,040 better. I've looked at the buffers and the management plans for the buffers. 388 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:29,440 This site will be nearly invisible from the public perspective. I agree with 389 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:35,359 Dominion Power that there's no better site in the state of Virginia than this 390 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:39,359 one. that the economics of growing pine trees on private land have become more 391 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:44,599 and more difficult. Just last week, George Pacific announced closure of a 392 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:49,200 plywood plant in Emporia. The over the last 30 years, the 393 00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:54,319 prices that land owners receive for pine logs and pulpwood has not kept pace with 394 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,040 inflation. The shutdown will only make matters worse. Yet, property taxes 395 00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:03,839 continue to go up. To me, I view this issue issue as 396 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:08,560 one of personal property rights. the fundamental right to make decisions on 397 00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:12,240 what is done with the land that you own as long as it doesn't interfere with 398 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:20,319 neighbors. The solar farm on this land will affect no one else. To me, I mean, 399 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,760 seven bridges solar provided a lot of money would will provide a lot of money 400 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,240 for member county and town of Chase City. This will help keep property taxes 401 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:33,119 down for all the citizens of the county. It's time to move this project forward. 402 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:39,400 Thank you all for your time. Thank you. Next speaker is Cody. Uh, is this Snare? 403 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:54,000 I'm with DevCom Power. We were awarded the job a couple years ago. So, I just 404 00:45:51,760 --> 00:46:02,160 wanted to come up here and, you know, tell you a little bit about uh DevCom 405 00:45:56,359 --> 00:46:07,200 and uh just how we how we work and um You know, I've been in Solar eight years 406 00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:11,200 now. DEPCOM's been around about 15. Uh, it started out as a disabled 407 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:15,200 veteranowned company and it's moved on to other things now. But, 408 00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:20,560 uh, at the peak of everything, we'll probably be at about 150 to 175 people 409 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:25,599 out here. Most of the employees hopefully will be slotted from the 410 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:29,599 general area. Um, if we get to a point where we need to expand, then it will 411 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:34,400 expand in Virginia. It will not expand outside of that. 412 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:40,400 We do live our lives and our company from a principalbased management. So we 413 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:45,680 take pride in what we do. Um we are all over the country. We're all over uh the 414 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:51,760 world actually. We've built in uh Puerto Rico and uh I actually am looking at a 415 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:56,760 job down there now. So we're very very good at what we do. Uh we do take pride 416 00:46:54,319 --> 00:47:02,119 in in our work and ensuring that the locals 417 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:08,319 are taken care of to the best of our ability and uh yeah I just wanted to 418 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,640 come up here and say my piece. I appreciate 419 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,520 everybody. The next speaker is Karen Drosiaak. 420 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:33,520 Good morning. My name is Karen Drosiaak. I'm with First Solar. We are the largest 421 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:38,720 American solar technology and solar manufacturing company. We are proud to 422 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:44,560 be a supplier of the solar modules for the Seven Bridges project. Um, solar is 423 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:51,760 very much real. We wouldn't be standing here 26 years later. Um we were founded 424 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:57,599 back in 1999. More than 65% of new electricity generation uh installed last 425 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:02,280 year was solar. And that's because it is affordable and it is the fastest 426 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:08,400 electricity generation that can be deployed. Not only is it um real, but it 427 00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:13,359 can be manufactured here in America. And I'm not just talking about imported from 428 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,359 abroad and assembled here. I'm talking about a sheet of glass goes in at one of 429 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:22,240 our factories and a completed solar module comes out about three hours 430 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:28,319 later. We're not just manufacturing here, but we've built a domestic 431 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:32,800 American supply chain with uh soda ash and and silica miners supplying the raw 432 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:39,160 materials for the glass that we use in our products. Um, we're creating real 433 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:43,960 long-term jobs all across our value chain which are supporting our 434 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:49,599 facilities and supporting projects like these. Um, our Ohio facilities, we have 435 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:54,319 three Ohio facilities which have received the highest recognition from 436 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:58,960 the Ohio EPA, the encouraging environmental excellence award, uh, 437 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:06,000 platinum award. So, we are proud to be doing solar the right way. We also have 438 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:11,200 been recycling for for 20 years now. So we established the industry's first 439 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:15,440 global recycling program back in 2005 and we've been recycling ever since. 440 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:20,640 Recovering the semiconductor material and reusing it in new panels. Our 441 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:25,440 technology is not a new technology. It is a prudent one which has been safely 442 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:31,280 operating in the field for more than 20 years. It has been installed on drinking 443 00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:35,920 water facilities in Berlin, Germany, and is a technology of choice for leading 444 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:42,920 utilities and energy providers. Thank you. 445 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,920 Next speaker is Matt Karns. 446 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:54,079 Good morning. Uh my name is Matt Karns. I live at 34 Johnson Road in Falmouth, 447 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:59,599 Maine, but I've spent um a lot of time in Meckllinmberg County since 2017 when 448 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:04,960 we negotiated the land agreement with Mr. Mullen. Um I've had the pleasure of 449 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:10,800 of working with y'all and have uh really appreciated uh the hospitality for 450 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:16,160 investment in this community. Um I think I'm I'm very proud of what Cliff and his 451 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:18,680 team have done here. Um, I liken the seven bridges project kind of like going 452 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,920 to the optometrist and when the doctor says, 453 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:27,680 "Is this right or is this right?" We knew the project wasn't right when we 454 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:33,040 started. We had a we came in with whole cloth. Solar projects are never perfect. 455 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:37,839 And then we started listening. And when we started listening, we realized there 456 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:41,599 was concern about Scots Crossroad traffic. So, we made a change. We 457 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:46,240 realized there were concerns about the Maharin River. So, we made a change. We 458 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:52,240 realized there were neighbor concerns. So we shrunk the size of the project 459 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:56,640 50%. When you go to the optometrists, you hopefully come out with the perfect 460 00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:00,720 view and the perfect outcome. These projects are never perfect, but this 461 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,640 project is born out of feedback from this community. So we think this is the 462 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:10,280 perfect solar project for this community. It has been shaped by public 463 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:14,559 input from day one. I'll give you two numbers. The first is eight. That's the 464 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,119 number of years that we've been working on this project. The second is 10 465 00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:25,040 million and that's the number of dollars that we've invested in this project with 466 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:29,839 power investment with long lead ter long lead time commitments and we have 467 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,480 invested in this county through the relationships that we formed with 468 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:40,640 neighbors with businesses who we now count as friends. And I think u I just 469 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:47,359 would say this is a project that is about this county now. It is about the 470 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:51,839 fingerprints of local people who have informed what it's going to look like, 471 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:55,720 how it's going to work, and if it's not working, we're going to be here to fix 472 00:51:53,599 --> 00:52:03,440 it because we own and operate these projects. So I would just say this is 473 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:07,119 about the perfect moment in time to say we've been at it for eight years. Let's 474 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:11,520 approve this project and move forward because it's by for and about the people 475 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,720 of this county. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Next speaker 476 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,720 is 477 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:30,880 Tom. Good morning. I'm Tom Y. I'm from McKenna, Virginia. Originally from 478 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:37,040 Kimbridge, Virginia, just north of Meckllinburgg. Um, I am on the board 479 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:42,240 member of Evergreen Team. Um, I'm here with Sharon Flowers, um, who is also an 480 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:48,520 employee of Evergreen Team and she's a native of Meckllinmberg County. Um, I 481 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:55,920 formed Evergreen Team in 2012 as an environmental nonprofit land trust. Um, 482 00:52:52,960 --> 00:53:00,880 since that time, we have grown to be the largest land trust, private land trust 483 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:06,160 in the state of Virginia. We're very proud of that. We have 484 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:10,800 conserved over 52,000 acres statewide with a focus in Southside Virginia. In 485 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:15,200 Meckllinmberg County alone, we have conserved over 2,400 acres in 486 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:23,280 conservation easements. And that's in perpetuity. That's saving farmlands and 487 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:27,839 timberlands. We work with land owners, military bases. We're very close 488 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:32,319 partners with the Ward Burton Wall Foundation. We work with veteran groups 489 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:37,839 and we have environmental education programs for 490 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:42,800 use. We have also evaluated renewable energy projects throughout the state of 491 00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:48,800 Virginia and Pennsylvania. Many many projects that include both solar and 492 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:54,480 wind turbine projects. Most of those we would say we would not approve and um 493 00:53:51,839 --> 00:54:00,720 have have worked against those because of numerous environmental issues. 494 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:04,839 But after evaluating this long road energy 495 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:09,160 project, we say they are doing it correctly. They are helping the 496 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,960 environment through many different ways. Through thorough and thoughtful 497 00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:18,559 planning, they're minimizing environmental issues. They're enhancing 498 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:21,559 biodiversity and wildlife corridors. And they're accounting for aesthetics and 499 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:27,359 visual integration. They do this in numerous 500 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:34,640 ways. One, as Cliff had said, they are conserving 250 acres of land between um 501 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:38,480 the solar panels and the South Maharan River. And that's where Evergreen is is 502 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,640 helping. We are going to help them conserve that in 503 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:47,400 perpetuity, never to be developed, always there as a buffer past even past 504 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:52,319 this project that exceeds the state 505 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:56,319 guidelines. We're proud that it protects wildlife 506 00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:01,359 and biodiversity through habitat conservation and 507 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:05,640 mitigation. Evergreen team will also use that 250 acres to do recreation with 508 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:12,119 wounded warriors. We do a lot with wounded 509 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:16,880 warriors from hunting, fishing, and camping. Other ways this helps the 510 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:23,040 environment is that it is reducing chemical chemicals and it uses 511 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:28,040 sustainable ground cover management. We have reviewed the erosion control 512 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:33,599 measures and has done very well. And what we really like about this 513 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:38,680 project is that U Long Road Energy is with this project and committed to this 514 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:43,200 project from start to finish. We think this project will 515 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,920 contribute well to the local community and it will be an asset to the 516 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:53,599 Meckllinburgg County and the environment. Thank you. 517 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,599 Next speaker is Matt 518 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:15,760 English Matt English um 246 Dean John's Place 519 00:56:13,799 --> 00:56:19,599 Appamatics. Ladies and gentlemen, the board staff, it's good to see everybody 520 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:25,720 again. I think I visited y'all. Uh I think it was sometime back in the 521 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:31,760 winter. I come here today um and tell you that uh Seven Bridges is 522 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:36,000 probably one of the most proactive professional organizations that I've 523 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:39,040 ever dealt with. I come to you today to tell you that I'm a farmer like many 524 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:44,400 people you sitting on the board, many people out here in the audience. Anyway, 525 00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:49,559 several years ago, I had the opportunity to farm under solar. I didn't know how 526 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:56,559 that was going to go. Neither did Solar Company. And several years later, I 527 00:56:53,359 --> 00:57:03,000 recently got awarded the Climate Smart Award program award. That award is given 528 00:56:59,359 --> 00:57:07,960 to one out of 150 recipients in the nation and I am one of 150 and I take 529 00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:13,920 that proudly as a seventh generation farmer anyway to receive that award. 530 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:19,760 Still three of us foreman. We farm in four counties. Closest here will be 531 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:23,440 Charlotte County. When I come out of the Charlotte County forum, I look and 532 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:27,200 there's a sign right there and way and it tells how far it is from Chase City. 533 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:32,160 Man, I like take a left, come over here and form. I hope y'all give me the 534 00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,480 opportunity to do it. Several people spoke in opposition and said they're 535 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:41,839 taking away the farmland. All this land under solar 536 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:47,280 panels will be formed. I hope with my sheep, maybe some other 537 00:57:44,359 --> 00:57:52,240 neighbors. There's a lot of land. It's good fence. Bow string tight. The 538 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,680 livestock don't get out in the highway. Stop the school buses and you'll commute 539 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,200 to work. The grass is better than most of 540 00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:02,480 our farms cuz these people got pockets deeper than mine. And they can afford 541 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:08,640 better grass, better fertiliz, and better lime than I can and many other 542 00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:13,480 folks can too. If you want to preservate farmland in the 543 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:17,559 community and help local farmers and wounded warriors come and 544 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:24,520 hunt and fish, then you do your obligation, what 545 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:28,559 you were voted on to do, and you approve this. Hopefully next time we'll meet up 546 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:34,319 there at the forum and I'll show you some sheep and beautiful 547 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:38,240 grass. Thank y'all. The next speaker is Brenda Walker. 548 00:58:53,520 --> 00:59:00,960 Good morning. Morning. Hope everyone's having a good day. And I just come as a 549 00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:06,079 resident of Meckllinburgg County. I've lived here all my life. And I hope each 550 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:11,880 and every one of you will think about this deeply before you make your 551 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:16,319 decisions. This is a big thing for the county, but we want to save the 552 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:22,799 agriculture, too. We don't want to waste the lands that we 553 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:27,920 have. God doesn't make more land. This is all we have. And we are here and we 554 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:32,799 are to preserve it and we're here to take care of it. And I would like to 555 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:37,400 speak against the solar project as I did when they tried to get it on 3362 Old 556 00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:43,920 Cox Road. It's a mess. You can look at the 557 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:49,599 others. There's not a good result anywhere that I've seen. And I've seen 558 00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:54,400 all the trash and all the trashy people that come in to work these projects and 559 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,920 all the mud and the dirt that they bring into the businesses in Chase 560 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:06,000 City and they could care less. So please take this deeply and ask 561 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:11,400 as we would ask Jesus, what would you do? This is your land. Thank you. 562 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:15,359 Next speaker is Charles 563 01:00:25,799 --> 01:00:33,040 Jackson. I just brought this with me. I don't have anything written down. 564 01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:38,599 Morning, Mr. Chairman and board. Um I'm not a great speaker, but I'm just here 565 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:43,359 to oppose the solar project. Um, I've got solar panels on my house. I 566 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:49,359 had them on six years ago. I got talked into it by a slick talking guy. And the 567 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:55,040 day that they come and put them in, I couldn't find him. Uh, I couldn't find 568 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:59,920 anybody. They did a mess. I regret it, but I got talked into 569 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:06,240 it. I think you need to do a lot more thought and, you know, discussion about 570 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:10,400 these. It might be a good thing, but I just I'm here to oppose it and I wish 571 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:19,400 you would think about it real hard before you make your decision. Thank 572 01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:19,400 you. The next speaker is Judy Brothers. 573 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:34,079 Hello, I'm Judy Brothers. I'm president of the Friends of the Maharin River 574 01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:38,559 Group. put my eyes on 575 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:43,200 here. The sighting for this project is completely inappropriate for a lot of 576 01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:48,160 the same reasons as the Antlers Road project was. 577 01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:54,000 Also, the Maharin River is the municipal water supply for Emporia, Virginia. In 578 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:59,920 2022, I spoke with an employee for the town who stated that the reservoir was 579 01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:03,440 already 25% silted out and creating issues for the town water supply at that 580 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:07,839 time. The erosion issues are real. And 581 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:14,920 recently, the Foxhound Project, which is Long Road Energy in Halifax County with 582 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:20,799 53 failed water ponds, hired the erosion company, which cites 583 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:26,960 renewables with a picture of solar panels on their website as one of their 584 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:33,079 selling points as to what they do. Um and it says there that uh if not it's 585 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:39,359 not if but when problems will arise. So uh the thousand foot buffer is 586 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:45,280 not enough as the neighbor to Grasshopper had erosion 587 01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:50,319 issues and damage to their ponds and it was many more than a thousand feet away. 588 01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:55,119 And we know that Butcher Creek has been putting out a plume of silt into the 589 01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:59,079 lake some 10 miles away with no fix in sight. And we have drone footage of 590 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:06,400 that, by the way. Um, in 2012, the Scenic River 591 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:11,520 report lists that the Maharin is a threatened and endangered species water 592 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:15,160 on the western mo most end, which is where this project is, and is rated by 593 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:21,920 the VDGIF that uh this section is contains 594 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:28,240 two state and globally significant natural heritage resources that occur at 595 01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:33,559 three locations along the study segment. Um the historical significance of this 596 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:38,480 area has been vastly understated. We have Spring Bank and 597 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:45,520 Ravenscraftoft Plantation which used to attach to the Maharin. It's within a 598 01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:49,920 mile or so from this site. Um and there are five historical gris mills 599 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:56,240 associated with this area as well. We have Burwell's Mill, Rocky Mill, Reeks 600 01:03:52,799 --> 01:04:02,960 Mill, Hepern Mill, and Mill Grove. Uh, Colonel Burwell was a resident at that 601 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:07,680 home. He also uh was a prominent figure along with Colonel Oliver and Bacon and 602 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,280 with their headquarters were scattered throughout the area too. Those are on a 603 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:17,200 map you can see. Um, Colonel Burwell also built Stone Land which 604 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:22,640 burned down. This was on the other side of this project more south. when 605 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:27,280 Stoneland burned down later all those stones were moved to Macallum and that's 606 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:32,559 what they made Macallumore out of was those stones. So there's a significant 607 01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:39,760 it's a lot of history in that area that goes with all this uh something maybe 608 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:45,680 that the county could use for uh future you know visitors to come and see. Um 609 01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:51,280 and again the sighting for this project is totally inappropriate. It endangers 610 01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:56,400 the community and its resources with admitted forever chemicals in the solar 611 01:04:53,839 --> 01:05:01,760 panels plus the erosion issue. Please vote no on this project. Thank you. 612 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:06,039 Thank you. Next speaker is Monty High Tower. 613 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:16,720 Well, thank you ladies and gentlemen of the 614 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:22,480 board high tower 247 Autumn Lane Chase City and for those who don't know where 615 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:28,880 Autumn Lane is is off of Spanish Grove. Uh I walk over my back door. I'm 400 ft 616 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:35,039 from the Otter Creek Solar Project. Uh, as that project was being built and 617 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:39,839 is now being operated, I have had no issues whatsoever. Uh, other than a 618 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:46,119 light shine through the window, I went to the contractors, asked them if they 619 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:53,760 could, uh, move the light. No problem. 10 minutes after I 620 01:05:49,680 --> 01:06:01,200 talked to them, the problem solved. Uh I know that the 621 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:06,079 uh blue stone project and the grasshopper project were one of the best 622 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:13,359 projects in the world the way they were built. But uh the Otter Creek project is 623 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:19,119 living there beside it. I've seen no problem. No, no problem with the traffic 624 01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:26,000 on Spanish Grove. Uh, no problem with the site 625 01:06:21,799 --> 01:06:31,280 itself. Also, and I've been working with Long Road for probably eight years. Uh, 626 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,760 when they first came into the area, they came talked to me. 627 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:41,160 Uh, started talking to me about honeybees. They want to know how many 628 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:48,079 honey bee hives that project would support. I recommended that they were 629 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:54,799 talking about the uh using pollinator habitat 630 01:06:51,039 --> 01:07:02,720 uh over seven years. Everything I have uh mentioned to them to improve the 631 01:06:56,839 --> 01:07:07,520 project like coming out 49 they have uh worked into their 632 01:07:04,839 --> 01:07:12,880 project. So uh I think they have done their due diligence on this project and 633 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:17,400 probably the best that you going to be able to 634 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:23,000 find. Also with the uh signing agreement, the $500,000 that 635 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:28,960 would come to Chase City would be greatly appreciated and needed 636 01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:34,440 because I've been a business owner in Chase 637 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:39,680 City. Uh we're celebrating our 50th anniversary. So I know how hard it is to 638 01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:46,640 keep a business going in Chase City. And if y'all been through CHC, y'all can see 639 01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:52,160 how how Main Street is going down. I think this project will bring a influx 640 01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:57,119 of business to town which would be fatally needed. And thank y'all. Thank 641 01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,319 you. The next speaker is Woody Moore. 642 01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:12,799 Morning board, Mr. Chairman. My name is Woody Moore. I live at 5189 Country Club 643 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:19,520 Drive on the Dirt Park. Um I'm against this uh being uh uh okayed and the 644 01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:23,839 reason being is uh everything that I have seen. I hate to see people deceived 645 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:27,199 and I hear all this stuff that's being talked about with solar. I used to think 646 01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:31,600 it was a big it was the best thing coming. I have done a lot of research on 647 01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:35,359 solar and I've done a lot of research on what's happening right here in this 648 01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:42,319 county and I can tell you right now it's it was stated earlier 17 18% is 649 01:08:39,719 --> 01:08:47,199 very probable that's all you'll ever see out on one of these sites when it says 650 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:51,520 80 megawws uh whatever that is supposed to mean I think they made a typo there 651 01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:54,799 um there is no way that it will even come close to it and if you don't 652 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:59,279 believe me check the grid on what comes out of the ones that's already there and 653 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:04,080 what's being produced is nowhere near what they claim that they're supposed to 654 01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:07,920 produce. Okay, that's one. Two, and I know Monty, I love him, but over on 655 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:11,040 Spanish Grove Road, I'm glad that he had a good experience, but I've been over 656 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:15,359 there and seen and been across a couple of the farms that have are affected by 657 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,640 the ones that are there. One, the one project overhead doesn't work because it 658 01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:23,040 came all to pieces, just like Grasshopper has messed up and doesn't 659 01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:27,920 work. Furthermore, the erosion problems over there and uh we were roadcrop to 660 01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:31,839 farmers. We never got by by with that stuff. We had to deal with making sure 661 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:35,279 we covered that erosion situation. Erosion over there. I've been over there 662 01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:40,880 when a big storm came through on that man's farm and the solar farm is behind 663 01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:45,279 him more than a th000 ft if not more than that. The water was coming out of 664 01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:49,600 it acrossing his driveway and into his pond over three foot deep with red mud 665 01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:53,520 rolling. And we know this is a red mud county. Everywhere it goes the red clay 666 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:57,120 is going with it. And I don't see any way that it had holding ponds and all 667 01:09:55,679 --> 01:10:01,280 this other stuff and told me, "Oh, that takes care of it." I got pictures where 668 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:06,080 it was running around the s the the holding ponds and so it was not and I oh 669 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:11,120 we going to do it better. Uh I would hope that would be the case but I'm 670 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:15,840 saying it doesn't work and um I'm totally against it in that way. I also 671 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:20,000 have uh as many have said about that. I understand it's going into where 672 01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:23,920 Timberland was. Uh but Timberland's green even though you cut it and replace 673 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:28,320 it. is still green. The solar farm is not green. There's nothing green about 674 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:32,159 it. There's chemicals in it that do will at some point be an issue to deal with 675 01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:35,440 if it don't ever leak out. The other one is nobody has mentioned much about and 676 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,440 I've seen a lot of stuff on this lately which I hadn't seen and I'd asked 677 01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:43,920 questions about is fires and there are those that have had fires with them and 678 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:47,760 we talk about what happens the chemicals that's in it. what happens with the air 679 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:51,760 around the folks that live near it when that chemical gets in the smoke or 680 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:56,000 whatever if it does burn. And two, how do our local volunteer fire departments 681 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,679 gear up to be able to handle those chemicals or whatever it may be when 682 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:03,360 they go in to deal with it? And I know this from a tank farm near where I 683 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,560 pastor the church. They have to have special foam and other things to be able 684 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:09,679 to go in there and they have to have a way to get in the fence to be able to 685 01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:15,280 deal with it because these places get locked down in fences. So, it's a lot of 686 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:24,600 issues that are negative in my book and so I I'm against this old 687 01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:24,600 farm. The next speaker is Melanie Woods. 688 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:34,199 Okay, we have Paul Brer. 689 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,159 Okay. And James Jefferson. 690 01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:48,560 Good morning, members of the board. My name is James Jefferson. Um I reside at 691 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:52,480 1437 Edlas Road uh in Biton. Um the first I want to uh say I'm gratified 692 01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:56,880 that um recently there was an application denied to uh produce solar 693 01:11:54,719 --> 01:12:00,320 farm on on that road which is really right down the road from where I live 694 01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:03,360 and uh I was kind of happy about that. Uh I've heard a lot of the pros and 695 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:08,520 cons. I heard the numbers back and forth. Um, one thing I do know about 696 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:13,360 life is time really will be the uh best assessor of whether this a good deal or 697 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:18,400 not. Um, again I heard the numbers I I can't say whether they good or not. Um a 698 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:23,920 lot of times numbers are uh often put you know given to uh to get the will at 699 01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:27,920 uh what they attempting to do. But um for me 700 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:32,800 um when you get right down to it at at what point or what does it stop at far 701 01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:37,360 as for solar farms here in Minburg County and tying up you know the the 702 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:41,199 land real estate with that down the road when it's all over and done with um I 703 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:45,040 think I hear some numbers what 25 30 year or whatever the project life is. uh 704 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,120 what happens then to that property? Uh what happens to the uh the soil, the the 705 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:54,800 the animals that that would have inhabited that area? So for me, um I say 706 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,920 I'm against it and you know, if I don't fight it now, you know, next day it'll 707 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:03,040 be in my back door. So I rather, you know, attempt to stop it now. Thank you. 708 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:08,239 Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is the last person that pre-signed up to speak on 709 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:11,239 this topic. Okay. 710 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:14,320 Uh 711 01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:28,679 So, um, I certainly want to give anybody that had, uh, wants the opportunity to 712 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,679 speak to go ahead and speak. 713 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:43,159 Brandon Estus, 31257, Highway 49, Chase City, 714 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:47,920 Virginia. Why am I here? Um there's, you know, unlike it seems like 715 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:53,920 99% of folks that are, you know, here might have uh something to 716 01:13:50,040 --> 01:14:00,280 gain or maybe lose. I don't gain any money or lose any money with this 717 01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:05,960 project or any project. Uh I'm here because I believe that this is wrong and 718 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:12,480 I have from the beginning. And you know, uh there's folks that have 719 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:16,960 connections that stand to make money on things and we come up here and you know 720 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:22,719 it's understandable that we would want to support our interests, right? But uh 721 01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:30,880 I live here. I've lived here most of my life and uh I just I I I'm trying to 722 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:33,560 find reasons to stay here. Uh I don't you know I don't want to see my entire 723 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,520 county gentrified. I stayed here because I 724 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:42,880 didn't want to go to the big city. I didn't want to be surrounded by 725 01:14:40,679 --> 01:14:46,719 corporations. And let's not, we don't have to be naive about this. 726 01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:51,920 Corporations don't have morals. They don't care. They don't give a rip about 727 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:56,560 any of us in this room. They come here to make money. And the people that they 728 01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:01,440 send to talk to y'all, that's what they're here to do. They're here to tell 729 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:06,480 you whatever is necessary to get you to vote for something. They're not here to 730 01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:10,239 tell you what might be true. We have people in we have 10 different land 731 01:15:08,159 --> 01:15:15,760 owners in Louisa County who are litigating against solar farms because 732 01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:21,600 of what it's done to their land. We have uh at least one in our own county who 733 01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:25,960 has won a lawsuit over the erosion issues that are supposedly non-existent. 734 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:34,920 So again, he who speaketh with fork tongue, 735 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:40,080 he always shows his face. They come, they want to do 736 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:46,960 whatever is necessary to get the the government money because like I've told 737 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:50,400 y'all before, it's a,000% subsidized from federal government money. That is 738 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:55,120 what these companies are here to do. What Meckllinmberg County is a ripe 739 01:15:52,719 --> 01:16:00,239 morsel for the taking to be picked off the vine and to be squosed dry and for 740 01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:05,199 them to then leave as all the other sol they told us that they would sell the 741 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:11,679 project after they're done or other this is the typical thing that other 742 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:15,280 uh that other project starters will then sell it to other solar companies. They 743 01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:20,719 don't they don't care. They just need to they just need you to be sweetened up 744 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:24,960 enough to pass it and then they can get their cash and run. And that's all I 745 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:29,520 have to say today. Hope youall have a blessed day. Thank you. 746 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:34,960 Anyone else would like to speak concerning the sighting agreement. 747 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:39,640 Okay. You come to the podium. State your name. I signed up on the other 748 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:48,920 you Either one. Either one is fine. 749 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:58,320 Good morning. My name is Deborah Dantis and I reside at 885 Scots Crossroads. 750 01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:03,679 I'm here today to vehemently oppose the Seven Bridges Solar Project. So, let's 751 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:09,400 talk about the truth. The main entrance to this prop project is across the road 752 01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:14,960 from my yard. I have spoken with several employees and even invited them into my 753 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:19,760 home on two occasions. Howal McCabe has visited me at my home on three separate 754 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:25,440 occasions and he has called me no less than six times. The latest call was on 755 01:17:22,719 --> 01:17:29,600 March 27th, 2025 after the planning commission granted them permission to 756 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:34,560 proceed with the project. He called to inform me that VOTE had mandated all 757 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:40,719 18-wheeler traffic would use the Highway 49 entrance. Prior to that, he called me 758 01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:44,600 on October 29th, 2024 to inform me of setbacks and modifications they had made 759 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:49,120 to the original plans. On his first visit to my home, I 760 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:53,760 spoke with Hal and another man and respectfully listened to them trying to 761 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:57,199 sell me on the solar project. They in turn listened to my long list of 762 01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:01,440 concerns and mentioned a good neighbor agreement without going into much 763 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:05,840 detail. They left and stated that they would be in touch. About a month later, 764 01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:13,199 Hal arrived at my home and handd delivered to me the Good Neighbor 765 01:18:10,679 --> 01:18:17,679 agreement. He handed me the four-page agreement and told me to call him when I 766 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,960 was ready to sign. After reading the agreement, I knew that I would never 767 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:25,840 sign it due to the content and restrictions. This legal document 768 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:31,120 offered $2,000 within 30 days of the developer receiving a signed agreement 769 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:35,000 as well as an additional 10,000 as long as the neighbor compi complies with the 770 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:40,719 obligations under the agreement. Neighbor could not oppose 771 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:45,280 construction or development etc etc. neighbor releases and forever discharges 772 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:50,800 developer together with its affiliates and employees, contractors, etc., etc. 773 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:56,239 from and against any and all complaints, claims, liabilities, etc. of any nature 774 01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:59,840 whatsoever which are based upon arising from or relating to the location of the 775 01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:05,760 project, construction, development, permitting of the project, including but 776 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:08,960 not limited to noise, dust, and traffic. Both parties agreed to keep this 777 01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:13,120 agreement and the contents, including the payment, strictly 778 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:17,040 confidential. I called Hal and told him that there was no way that I would ever 779 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:21,440 sign that agreement. He replied that he knew that I would not sign because of my 780 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:26,880 previous concerns and stated that he would pass along this information to his 781 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:30,960 boss and stated that between you and me, this is negotiable. 782 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:35,199 I did in fact receive a phone call from his boss, but I immediately told him I 783 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:40,159 was opposed to the Seven Bridges Solar Project and that nothing he could say 784 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:44,719 would make me change my mind. The truth is Long Road Energy did have a good 785 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:50,159 neighbor agreement. It was not implemented because no one accepted it. 786 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:55,280 The truth is those that support solar are benefiting 787 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:59,360 financially and they also do not have a solar 788 01:19:56,199 --> 01:20:03,679 project in their front yard or on the road that they live 789 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:09,040 on. Also, the electric companies receive, and this figure may be off, but 790 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:13,840 it's very close, $56,000 per acre of solar and subsidies from the state of 791 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:19,920 Virginia. They in turn offer thousands of dollars to nonprofit organizations in 792 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:24,000 your area, to schools, small towns, and offer bribes in the form of good 793 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:30,480 neighbor agreements. They are making these donations with our tax money. And 794 01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:35,199 guess what? Our electric bills keep going up. I leave this with you this 795 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:40,640 final thought. If solar is so great, why is it 796 01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:47,600 necessary for them to bribe their way into our communities? Thank you. 797 01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:52,760 Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak on this? 798 01:20:54,640 --> 01:21:03,679 Good morning. My name is Pauline Keaton. I reside at 121 West Third Street, J 799 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:08,800 City. And I stand before you as a product of Meckllinmberg County, a 800 01:21:06,159 --> 01:21:15,199 resident of Chase City, and a member of Chase City Town 801 01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:19,719 Council. I've seen the community go from thriving 802 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:25,199 to fairly existing sometimes. 803 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:31,199 Um there's sometimes very little traffic in and out of the town. Uh things have 804 01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:37,040 changed a lot from the times that Chase City was the thriving community, but I'm 805 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:42,360 here today to solicit support for endorsement of the solar projects that 806 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:47,679 are here for your vote today. We live in an area with limited, 807 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:53,760 very limited resources. And these resources come mostly from taxpayers 808 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:59,679 dollars and these monies can only go so far. By the time we cover maintenance 809 01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:06,520 and repair cost, there's very little left for much needed improvements and uh 810 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:10,679 modernization. Revenue from outside sources is welcome and needed to help 811 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:16,719 keep things afloat. This project has been supportive 812 01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:22,239 of activities in our town and promises to continue to support us in the future. 813 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:27,560 I strongly encourage the board to approve the solar initiative as this 814 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:33,040 would be a plus for the town and for the county. And as you vote today, please 815 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:38,000 remember that a vote for this project can have positive implications for 816 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:42,080 Meckllinburgg County. Thank you for your consideration and for allowing me time 817 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:45,320 to speak. Thank you. 818 01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:58,480 Good morning. I'm Jeannie Gohagen. I live in I own a home in Chase City. I 819 01:22:56,159 --> 01:23:04,960 work for John and Susan Mullen and I have worked for them for 35 years plus. 820 01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:10,320 I've known Susan and John all my life. They are good people. They would not put 821 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:16,639 in something that would harm the area. They have studied this as well as y'all 822 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:22,639 have, as well as Seven Bridges has. They know it's the right thing to do. They 823 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:28,639 also have solar in their home. It is supported by 180 kilowatt field. It is 824 01:23:26,239 --> 01:23:35,000 right behind their house, you see it. If you go by their house, it is not bad 825 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:42,239 looking. It enhances the area. There's nothing wrong with it. 826 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:47,920 they support it. I'm just here to say I've seen in Chase City the activity 827 01:23:45,679 --> 01:23:51,960 that's created from the other solar farms. Yes, they were not done 828 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:58,320 correctly. There are some problems. The um Grasshopper went in on 829 01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:03,760 a year where we had eight floods. So, you can imagine any construction site 830 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:07,679 during a period of eight floods is going to cause problems. Your home 831 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:11,360 construction site can cause the same kind of problems. 832 01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:16,719 I've gotten to know the people at Seven Bridges. They're good people. They've 833 01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:20,719 been here. They've been working hard to support this 834 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:24,560 project. I, for one, thought, "Oh my god, Chase City is going to be the 835 01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:30,400 hottest town on the planet." I had no clue. I started coming to these meetings 836 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:38,480 and I learned so much. It's not that way. And with the Microsoft coming in 837 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:43,760 and the strain on the power grids, we've got to have alternate uses. We've got to 838 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:49,679 find alternate power. And to me, harnessing the sun is a no-brainer. So, 839 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:55,120 please think about it good and hard. Yes, take your time, make a good 840 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:59,159 informed decision, but believe in solar. Thank you. Thank you. 841 01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:07,520 Good morning. I think it's still morning, isn't 842 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:11,360 it? Hey y'all, board of supervisors. Glad to be in front of you. I have to 843 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:16,159 say first, I'd like to thank you again for your support of the Mecca Theater in 844 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:20,639 Chase City, my life's mission. Today though, I'm here to support Seven 845 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:24,560 Bridges and their tireless mission to see their project a reality in Chase 846 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:29,600 City. They have responded positively to every 847 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:36,080 complaint and want to partner with us in bringing solar to our community. Keyword 848 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:41,880 partner. We will need every source we can get for the Microsoft project. 849 01:25:38,679 --> 01:25:46,000 Traditional solar and nuclear. And just remember, if we don't 850 01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:50,800 do solar, we're going to need more nuclear. 851 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:57,840 Also, I now have fear that we will finish the theater and have no town 852 01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:02,480 left. In recent months, we have lost stores like roses and now another 853 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:06,960 business is closing. As you've heard this morning, pallet one. I think there 854 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:10,440 38 jobs that are going by the wayside. And I frankly don't know what those 855 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:15,760 people are going to do to live. If we have no jobs, where will the 856 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:21,360 folks work? The cost of living is increasing because of Microsoft and 857 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:26,639 there are few job fewer jobs by the day. We need partners in the rebuilding of 858 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:32,080 Chase City. Now, Seven Bridges is reliable, trustworthy, and innovative. 859 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:39,520 Please vote yes today. Bet on Seven Bridges. Please bet on Chase City. I did 860 01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:45,679 bring with me three pages of uh for you, which are a petition. I did one in Chase 861 01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:51,360 City. my cousin Elellanar Washington who lives on Scott Cross state one in her 862 01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:58,239 area showing support. The last thing I want to say is I know it's difficult 863 01:26:54,480 --> 01:27:02,040 being in your position but remember remember how difficult it was with the 864 01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:07,360 high school making decisions but also go back to something 865 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:13,320 bigger which may have been appropriate balance. Can you imagine how difficult 866 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:17,480 it was to vote the damn into this area? Important things are hard to 867 01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:23,040 decide on. I leave this with you. I know that 868 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:28,760 you will vote with your brain and your heart. Thank you. 869 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,760 Thank you. 870 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:44,560 My name is Ryan Brankley. I've been a citizen of this county for 40 years and 871 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:50,000 Chase City uh specifically. I've seen a lot of change in this county in the last 872 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:53,480 15 years. I think we all know that there's there's a power issue in this 873 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:59,639 county with with the advancements of Microsoft. Um I also think we know that 874 01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:05,199 this solar project is not the answer to those power issues that we have. I would 875 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:09,360 uh appreciate your opposition of this. I've watched a lot of people get up here 876 01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:14,960 today who are not from this county and who are not do not reside in this county 877 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:18,480 in support of this and I would really appreciate y'all taking that in 878 01:28:16,639 --> 01:28:23,760 consideration in y'all's vote. Thank you. Thank 879 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,760 you. 880 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:31,560 Anyone else wishing to speak on the sighting agreement in this public 881 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,560 hearing? 882 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,880 Good morning, Dusty Forbes, the town manager at Chase 883 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:47,520 City. This subject is a sticky one and I know it's 884 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:52,239 going to take a lot of thought and consideration from the board on this. 885 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:56,960 Yes, the gentleman was correct. There are people who are going to receive a 886 01:28:54,400 --> 01:29:02,600 financial benefit from this solar project. And yes, Chase City looks to be 887 01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:10,920 one of the recipients of that financial benefit. Chase City's operating budget 888 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:18,360 is about $3.9 million a year for everything. South Hill's operating 889 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:18,360 budget this year is $41 million. 890 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:28,840 Clarksville's operating budget is $10 million. And I hesitate to say that the 891 01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:34,320 county's operating budget is over $100 million. So when you think that $500,000 892 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:39,199 won't make an impact on Chase City, you're wrong. It will. And I know that 893 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:44,480 there are people opposed to this. And yes, I hate that we have to look out for 894 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:49,520 external dollars, but Chase City just does not have the funds or the money any 895 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:53,440 other way. We can't tax our way out of it. We can't increase rates because 896 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:57,040 people can't afford to pay the increased rates that we have to charge in Chase 897 01:29:55,199 --> 01:30:02,239 City. The infrastructure is 100 years old. I have water leaks every week. I 898 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:06,719 have sewer leaks about once a month. We have to fix those things. And without 899 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:10,719 the funds to do it, we can't operate the town. And if we don't operate the town, 900 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:16,760 it goes away and then it becomes the county's problem. Thank you. Thank you. 901 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,719 Anyone 902 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:31,920 else? Hearing no one, uh we will close the public 903 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:36,000 hearing. This is election district 7. It is my 904 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:40,560 district and after conducting a duly advertised public 905 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:43,520 hearing, I would like to make the motion that it is hereby resolved by the 906 01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:48,120 Meckllinburgg County Board of Supervisors that the sighting agreement 907 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:54,560 with Seven Bridges Solar LLC for the Seven Bridges Solar 908 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:59,679 Facility, which sighting agreement set forth certain conditions profered by the 909 01:30:57,199 --> 01:31:06,800 applicant as part of the negotiation between the County and the applicant 910 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,800 pursuant to Virginia Code section 911 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:18,239 15.2-2316.8 is rejected in the form this day 912 01:31:15,639 --> 01:31:24,040 presented to my other board members. That means a yes 913 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:29,239 vote rejects the sighting agreement. Any discussion from the 914 01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:29,239 board? 915 01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:44,800 Jenny, hearing no discussion. Roll call. Miss Miss Black, 916 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:52,239 um I know this has been a rough topic and um I've been all over the map on it, 917 01:31:48,480 --> 01:32:00,080 against it, for it, for it, in the middle. When solar was first 918 01:31:55,719 --> 01:32:04,440 introduced, as with that's made. It was not done 919 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:13,040 correctly, but improvements have been made. And one of my questions that I 920 01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:18,880 asked was, can the soil be returned to uh 921 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:24,560 farming? And I was told no, but and this is per um Virginia Tech, it can be 922 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:34,080 amended again deep tillage and amendments to return it to production. 923 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:39,040 And my interest with um the camp with Southern Bridges is that it was a 924 01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:47,040 collaboration between Southern Bridges and um Long 925 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:52,000 Road and they listened to the community and what they wanted and they 926 01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:59,760 responded and I really commend them for that because in the future we are solar 927 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:05,880 is not going and it will be taken out of our hands. 928 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:15,600 How much? I don't know. But we can use the partnership between 929 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:22,520 the community and Longwood as a model for doing it correctly. 930 01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:31,239 But the key thing that has um that I look at is that property 931 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:37,800 owners have the right to use their property as long as it's legal and it's 932 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:43,480 within the bounds of ordinances. So consider you have 933 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:50,520 property owners that have leased their land for towers. 934 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:58,000 and receive compensation. Consider you have 935 01:33:54,760 --> 01:34:02,600 agricultural land owners who have used their 936 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:09,199 property for for their use. And last week I was just in writing 937 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:13,800 lately, you look at the amount of timber that has been 938 01:34:10,679 --> 01:34:21,440 cut. The land is bare. Uh it affects the wildlife. 939 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:25,360 habitat. It's not It's unsightly. It's, you know, it'll take if if it's going to 940 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:33,400 they're going to regrow the timber, it's going to take a while. But still, that 941 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:41,679 was that land owner's right to use his property. And I look at it the same way. 942 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:50,360 The land owners where the uh for the proposed site of seven bridges have the 943 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:55,480 right to use their land. and they have gone out of their 944 01:34:53,040 --> 01:35:05,120 way to ensure that it will not be visible to 945 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:08,920 those who uh travel up and down um Scott's crossroad. 946 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:14,840 And recently I went and looked at another solar 947 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:23,280 site where they are going to hope to develop and looked at the full grown 948 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:28,960 trees road back into that development proposed development and there's no way 949 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:37,679 anyone is going to see it. Whether we want to or not, change is 950 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:42,360 coming and you can't stop it. Like I said, it's going to be taken out of our 951 01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:50,360 hands. To what extent, I don't know. 952 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:57,960 But everyone has the right to use their property if it is not impacting others 953 01:35:55,480 --> 01:36:05,560 negatively. Anyone else? One thing I I think also we 954 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:12,400 need to be mindful of is I believe per emergency services and the 955 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:18,080 fire chief's association that if we have a wildfire break out into a solar 956 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:23,679 facility, the county's policy is to surround it and watch it burn. We don't 957 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:29,000 have a it is it's a solar facility and it's electrical compound that produces 958 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:34,800 electricity and it's not safe for our volunteers to enter such. With that 959 01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:38,639 being said, when you have those panels and the chemicals that make up those 960 01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:43,760 panels and you introduce fire in something like that, we don't know what 961 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:48,400 the longterm effects may be. They may be fine in the county, but when 962 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:53,920 you introduce something like fire, we don't know. That's the general consensus 963 01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:59,000 that I think. And fire is a realistic, as we've seen in California. I think 964 01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:03,960 they've got a big wakeup call. It can happen just when you think it can. 965 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:09,400 Okay. Anyone else? 966 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:15,239 I would remind again since we've had discussion 967 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:20,000 that a yes vote is to reject the sighting 968 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:31,199 agreement. Jenny, you want to do a roll call? Mr. Brinkley? Yes. Mr. Grabbit? 969 01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:38,239 Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr. Harrow? Yes. Mr. Wilkinson? Yes. Miss Blackwell? No. 970 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:45,480 Slundy? Yes. Mr. Tanner. No. 971 01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,480 Mr. Jennings. Yes. 972 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,840 Okay. 973 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:58,080 Mr. Hendrick, you're up next. The next item is the special exception 974 01:37:54,719 --> 01:38:02,280 permit by Southern Bridges Solar LLC for a special exception permit to construct 975 01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:09,199 an 80 megawatt utility scale solar facility up to 435 acres out of 1,249 976 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:12,199 acres to be located on county tax map number 977 01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:17,360 01300- A-001 partial rocket number 978 01:38:15,159 --> 01:38:22,400 7779. This property is owned as agriculture is located on the west side 979 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:26,840 of route 633 Scotch Cross Road and is intersection with 681 Honey Tree Road in 980 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:30,480 Lexon District 7berg County. 981 01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:34,119 Okay, Cliff, are you going to speak on behalf of this application? 982 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:02,719 Good morning, chairman, supervisors. Thank you again for your time 983 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:06,400 considering this application. Really appreciate 984 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:09,000 it. My name is Darren Lawrence. I work for Long Road Energy. I'm the vice 985 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:14,000 president of environmental. Cliff is in charge of the 986 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:18,000 whole project development. I'm in charge of implementation. So when Cliff says, 987 01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:22,800 "Here's a plan and here's what we're going to do." I get to make sure that we 988 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:26,920 execute everything that we say we're going to do. And this really comes from 989 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:32,159 one of our founders since we started this company. 990 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:36,800 His comment was this is our motto. We make and honor our commitments. And my 991 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:40,320 presentation today is really two things. One, I just want to talk about our 992 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:45,440 compliance with the special exception permit. And two, I want to provide some 993 01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:50,639 examples and other places we built to give you more confidence that we are not 994 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:55,280 like the other developers. We have a great reputation in this industry. When 995 01:39:53,040 --> 01:40:01,440 Cliff and I first came and met in the county back in 2017 with Mr. and Mrs. 996 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:06,080 Mullen and with leaders here, Long Road did not have any projects. We didn't 997 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:12,960 even have any projects in construction. Today, we are the 15th largest renewable 998 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:19,040 energy company in the United States. And I attribute that to our tenacious and 999 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:22,880 resilient commitment to following through with doing what we say we're 1000 01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:26,639 going to do. That's just who we are. It's how we're branded. It's how we 1001 01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:30,800 think. It's in our DNA. So, when we say we're going to do something and we make 1002 01:40:28,159 --> 01:40:34,040 these promises, these are promises that we keep. 1003 01:40:35,639 --> 01:40:42,800 Maybe maybe the place to focus here about the special exception permit 1004 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:47,520 application is we started off with a project years ago and we listened to the 1005 01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:52,639 community and we modified it and we've gotten to the point where the planning 1006 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:58,719 commission has recommended approval of this special exception permit. And not 1007 01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:04,320 only that, the planning commission has deemed that we are in substantial accord 1008 01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:08,880 with the comprehensive plan of Meckllinmberg County. And I want to 1009 01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:13,040 spend just a moment on what that means. We have read the comprehensive plan. We 1010 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:17,600 have read the ordinances. We have talked to the people to understand what did you 1011 01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:21,840 really mean when you said this is what you have to do to be spaced out farther 1012 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:27,199 or we need a buffer or we want to make sure that you're maintaining the rural 1013 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:31,360 nature of this county. We have digested that and thought about it and turned 1014 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:35,520 that into our application to make sure that we are adhering to everything 1015 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:42,080 that's so important to you who live here in this county. And 1016 01:41:38,199 --> 01:41:46,239 so if we are a land of laws and we are in compliance with the laws, the 1017 01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:51,840 ordinance, the rules, the regulations of this county, then isn't it a right of a 1018 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:55,199 person who owns a piece of land in compliance with those laws to be able to 1019 01:41:53,679 --> 01:41:59,360 go ahead with a plan that they have spent time and millions of dollars 1020 01:41:57,159 --> 01:42:04,639 developing? Or would you take away that right for what reason if there isn't one 1021 01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:08,080 that ties back to being in compliance with the law? And I think that's a 1022 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:11,920 fundamental threshold question about your voting today is whether you believe 1023 01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:18,480 that the law guides what we're allowed to do on our private lands or 1024 01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:18,480 not. That is the 1025 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:26,639 question. The second thing I want to bring up is at the planning commission 1026 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:30,960 hearing there was discussion about whether solar was a proven technology or 1027 01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:35,040 not. And I've done a lot of thinking since then. That was back in March. uh 1028 01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:39,920 just to try to think about well how do I explain that this isn't just something 1029 01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:44,480 that you know kind of works sometimes or doesn't work sometimes 1030 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:51,119 um Meckllinburgg County has been exceedingly unlucky with the projects 1031 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:58,320 that have been built here so far um you have ended up with Edouls not Fords and 1032 01:42:54,320 --> 01:43:02,840 Dodges and Chevys and I know you know better than I do all the problems that 1033 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:09,280 have happened in those other projects. Um, broadly in the United States, the 1034 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:14,960 largest new energy generation is solar energy. 50,000 megawws. Seven Bridges is 1035 01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:19,520 80 megawatts. Imagine how much solar that is. That is the predominant 1036 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:23,040 selection for energy that's put on the grid because the sun shines and the 1037 01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:27,920 panels collect electrons and they put it out to the grid and it is the cheapest 1038 01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:32,400 form of electricity you can get. Now, I know there's this talk of subsidization. 1039 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,600 as far as we're concerned, get rid of it. But if you want to get rid of it, 1040 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:38,199 get rid of it for oil and gas and coal, too, because they have been getting it 1041 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:42,320 since 1921, back when they first got their 1042 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:47,920 research and development subsidization and tax credits. And they still get that 1043 01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:52,400 today, as well as many more. So, if you want to do a fair cost accounting, get 1044 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:55,840 rid of all subsidization. We are in support of that as a solar industry. We 1045 01:43:54,560 --> 01:44:00,320 think that that would be the right move to do and we'd like to see that happen. 1046 01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:04,880 But given the conditions we have today and the reality that you buy electricity 1047 01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:10,159 in a competitive market, we have fixed power purchase agreements. If gas goes 1048 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:13,840 up, your price goes up. Solar doesn't go up. We have a fixed price for the 30 or 1049 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:18,960 40 years life of the project. It is fixed and is not going to 1050 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:23,600 change. Second point I'd like to make is we're enjoying the air conditioning in 1051 01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:28,560 this room today. 36% of that energy is coming from another state. Do you want 1052 01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:33,280 to send hundreds of millions of dollars to other states to build energy over 1053 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:38,159 there to then keep the air conditioning on here? Or would you rather invest that 1054 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:42,880 money in this county to make it stronger and have the energy that is fueling this 1055 01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:46,880 air conditioning right here coming from Virginia and even from here 1056 01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:50,560 Meckllinburgg County. To me, it seems like local sourcing is just so much 1057 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:55,199 better than trying to get it from someone else. 1058 01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:58,880 So Cliff did a really nice job talking about and working with all the changes 1059 01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:04,639 that we've had in this project. When we started it was 942 acres. We're half the 1060 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:08,400 size of that right now. We have put in screening and buffers. We've got a new 1061 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:14,000 access road. We'll have sheep grazing. We're maintaining a a special amount of 1062 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:17,760 logging and agriculture forestry around the whole project. Hunting and fishing. 1063 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:21,760 This project's going to be really diverse and it's going to have a lot of 1064 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:27,119 really unique benefits to it. while we're also building a solar plant. And 1065 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:31,320 as you mentioned, the Maharin River, 250 acres put into an in perpetuity 1066 01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:35,440 conservation easement to protect it forever. And that's because we've 1067 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:41,119 listened to the community. We understand your concerns. The Maharin River is 1068 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:44,880 designated scenic 10 miles down river. We're adjacent to the South Maharin 1069 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:49,920 River. It's not designated as scenic, but we still think it is a really 1070 01:45:47,239 --> 01:45:54,159 valuable protected resource that we want to be really careful about. That's why 1071 01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:58,320 we have offered this 250 acre conservation 1072 01:45:55,480 --> 01:46:02,639 easement. Cliff mentioned, you will not see the project from the Marin River. It 1073 01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:06,719 is really well screened from the terrain and because we're set way way back and 1074 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:10,080 on the other side of a transmission line at the top of the 1075 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:14,560 hill. So when I mentioned implementation, 1076 01:46:11,679 --> 01:46:18,719 um the key part here is we have a plan to screen it. We developed a forestry 1077 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:22,800 plan to make sure that the cutting that might happen in the buffer regenerates 1078 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:26,080 young trees that have lower branches that maintain the screening. So that for 1079 01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:28,920 the life of the project, you're not going to be able to see it from any of 1080 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:33,679 those public viewpoints. We will be decommissioning 1081 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:37,760 the project at the end of life. And we'll be decommissioning essentially 1082 01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:42,239 taking all the metal out of the project and you're going to have a meadow that 1083 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:47,119 will have had 30 years to develop an organic horizon and healthy roots and 1084 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:50,760 healthy soil. And it can be farmed, it can grow trees, it can be whatever you 1085 01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:55,199 want it to be. This just a summary of the many 1086 01:46:53,520 --> 01:47:00,880 different ways we thought about how do we add value to this project. 1087 01:46:57,719 --> 01:47:07,360 conservation pollinators got sheep grazing timber and we know that in those 1088 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:11,520 other projects other people built those they didn't use our panels that are true 1089 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:16,320 time and test as you heard from first solar today they don't use our trackers 1090 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:20,719 we use the good tried and trueue tested trackers in our systems we know that 1091 01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:25,440 when we have a project that's going to work and in our entire portfolio of more 1092 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:29,639 than 5,000 megawws they all work we don't have any of the project problems 1093 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:35,679 that you've seen in this county. Very unfortunately over at Foxhound, we had 1094 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:40,320 the D on site many, many times during these many storms that we had that 1095 01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:43,920 caused a lot of a lot of water to come down on a site. Quote, from one of their 1096 01:47:42,639 --> 01:47:48,159 reports, one of the best pollution prevention plans I've seen in 1097 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:51,760 construction general permit," unquote. We are also committed to hiring a 1098 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:55,040 third-party compliance manager who would report to the county and be able to 1099 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,119 continue to tell you here's how it's going and if you have problems, we will 1100 01:47:57,119 --> 01:48:04,400 address them. The last point I'll make is we we 1101 01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:09,760 are innovators at Long Road. We solve problems. We solve hard problems. We are 1102 01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:13,040 a tenacious, resilient company that is here to make and honor promises that 1103 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:17,840 we're making to you. And if you don't believe just me, you can go around to 1104 01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:22,800 our sites around the country. In Maine, we have the largest solar site ever 1105 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:26,520 built in the state. And the D uses our site to do trainings not only for their 1106 01:48:24,719 --> 01:48:31,760 staff, but for other developers. At Foxtown Solar, we're the 1107 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:35,920 first only Pollinator Smart Certified by Virginia project, large scale solar 1108 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:40,719 project in the state of Virginia. And lastly, one of my favorites, the work 1109 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:45,280 we've been doing with wildlife and the west has gotten the attention of 1110 01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:48,320 National Geographic. March of 2025, we are mentioned in National Geographic for 1111 01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:54,639 the good work that we're doing with solar and wildlife at our sites. So, I 1112 01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:58,320 ask you very respectfully to approve the special exception permit application 1113 01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:02,440 that we have before you. And again, thank you very much for your time. 1114 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:12,639 Okay. Thank you. Uh we will now open the public hearing for the 1115 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:17,280 special exception permit. I have 20 people signed up on this 1116 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:20,639 sheet. Okay. There may well be other people in the room who did not sign it 1117 01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:25,639 up. The first speaker on this is Deborah 1118 01:49:22,639 --> 01:49:25,639 Dantis. 1119 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:36,960 Okay. My comments are going to be about the same. 1120 01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:43,600 Um, my name is Deborah DeSantis. I reside at 885 Scots Crossroads. Um, I 1121 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:48,000 just want to talk about I mean I I do realize that they come into my home and 1122 01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:52,800 how McCay listen to my concerns and they've made a lot of changes to what 1123 01:49:51,040 --> 01:50:00,560 their original plan was and we appreciate that. Um, I do want to state 1124 01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:06,480 how much that I love a rural way of life and that is why I remain in Southside 1125 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:12,040 Virginia. Um there is too much uncertainty about the solar in regards 1126 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:17,520 to our waterways, wellwater, soil, and wildlife, not to mention who or how 1127 01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:25,199 these monstrosities will be maintained and repaired and disposed of in the 1128 01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:30,800 future. Um, I just want to ask you all, like I said before, um, everybody that 1129 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:34,920 votes to allow these solar farms to come in, every single person that votes for 1130 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:43,440 that, yes, is rewarded financially in some way 1131 01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:49,639 or another. Um, I know that Chase City, the town needs needs a lot need a lot of 1132 01:50:46,639 --> 01:50:56,560 money. um they're doing the best they can, but at what cost do you sell your 1133 01:50:53,360 --> 01:51:00,480 soul to these solar companies. Um we don't know what's going to happen 10 1134 01:50:58,719 --> 01:51:04,400 years from now after it's built. We don't know what's going to happen 20 1135 01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:11,239 years from now. Um I was offered a good neighbor agreement. I flat out turned it 1136 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:16,080 down because I was not going to take any money for me to have to sit there and 1137 01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:21,520 put up with the construction, the dust, the noise, and whatever would happen in 1138 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:26,320 10 to 20 or 30 years because you can't come back in 10 years or 20 years after 1139 01:51:24,159 --> 01:51:32,239 signing this agreement and say, "But but but you poisoned my wellwater, but but 1140 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:37,760 but you know, you've you've completely obliterated the wildlife in the area or 1141 01:51:34,639 --> 01:51:43,440 or whatever the the cause may be. You can't once you sign it, that's it. 1142 01:51:39,679 --> 01:51:48,400 You've signed your soul away. You cannot go back and say, "Well, you didn't tell 1143 01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:52,000 me, you know, or you didn't know. It doesn't matter. It's it it's finished. 1144 01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:57,599 You you you have no recourse at that point." So, like I said, I know Chase 1145 01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:01,360 City needs I know Meckllinburgg County needs 1146 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:07,679 funding. We've got to figure it out in other ways. The majority of us here 1147 01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:14,400 today We live here in Southside Virginia because we do not want to live in 1148 01:52:11,199 --> 01:52:20,320 Northern Virginia in the Tidewater area. Yet those 1149 01:52:16,119 --> 01:52:24,560 areas need the electrical grid coming from us. We need to look out for 1150 01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:31,760 ourselves. Yes, land owners should be able to do 1151 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:38,159 within reason what they want with their land and their 1152 01:52:33,239 --> 01:52:42,599 property, but you all sitting here can make a decision to say no, this is not 1153 01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:50,239 in the best interest of the county. And I would hope that you would 1154 01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:54,800 oppose and not let any more solar come into the county. I think we've had 1155 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:58,960 enough. We've seen enough. Um, yeah, they're learning from their mistakes, 1156 01:52:56,400 --> 01:53:02,480 but there's always going to be more mistakes. The other companies, they 1157 01:53:00,719 --> 01:53:08,560 promised this and they promised that, and they didn't fulfill those promises, 1158 01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:13,400 and now the neighbors there are having to deal with these issues. So, I thank 1159 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:19,320 you all for your consideration. Thank you. The next signed up speaker is 1160 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:25,360 Pauline Keaton, who I believe has departed. Yeah. 1161 01:53:21,599 --> 01:53:29,639 and as did Beverly Wood. So, the next one we have is Lori Huber. 1162 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:38,560 Thank you for putting up with me a second 1163 01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:44,000 time. I am disappointed that so many of you felt like you had to vote against 1164 01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:50,480 this last vote. Um, a couple things strike me. One is emergency services, 1165 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:55,280 wildfires, what can come off the panels? We actually do know what the result 1166 01:53:52,719 --> 01:54:00,560 would be. When EPA defines what a hazardous waste is, one of the tests 1167 01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:05,679 they do is called a toxicity extraction procedure, TCLP. They're looking at the 1168 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:09,920 leeate that comes from something that contains is either entirely hazardous 1169 01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:15,199 waste or contains something that would be hazardous waste if it became a waste. 1170 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:20,960 These panels are so large, they have so much glass, they have so much other 1171 01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:26,159 inner material. the very very very tiny bit of toxic materials that are in these 1172 01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:30,800 panels isn't anywhere near enough to cause harm. You say they're very large. 1173 01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:36,080 There's lots of panels. You'd have to take all of them, not break them in half 1174 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:41,199 and burn them, which in fact melts metal and glass and would seal it even more. 1175 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:46,320 You'd have to grind it into a powder and drink it for decades before there would 1176 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:51,840 be enough of those toxic materials to harm you. that's just not going to 1177 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:58,159 happen. So, I'm I'm disappointed hearing people bring that up again and again. 1178 01:54:54,560 --> 01:55:02,159 Also, storm water erosion control. I'm very concerned 1179 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:06,800 about that. I've called Mr. Hendrick and complained about how brown the water 1180 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:12,000 looked driving in over 58 into Clarksville a year or two 1181 01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:16,679 back. I'm not supportive of anything that would contribute to this. What 1182 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:21,880 creates erosion? farming, timber 1183 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:26,920 removal, data center construction, solar farm construction. 1184 01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:33,199 All of those things potentially contribute. But we say yes to farmers. 1185 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:38,719 We say yes to timber harvesting. We say yes to data centers. Why is it all of a 1186 01:55:36,159 --> 01:55:42,480 sudden a problem with a solar farm? A solar farm that's under construction for 1187 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:48,960 a year or a year and a half and then it's there to be what? grazed by lambs, 1188 01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:53,639 flowers, vegetables grown. That's not cutting down trees. That's not tilling 1189 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:58,159 land. That's not building a data center. Everybody's under a lot of 1190 01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:03,119 pressure here to vote against this. I get it. Some of the stories here have 1191 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:08,719 been very heartfelt and are valid and should be listened to, but looking at 1192 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:12,040 what's best for everyone and what's wise in terms of what's coming. You talk 1193 01:56:10,639 --> 01:56:18,159 about wildfires, there's a lot coming in terms 1194 01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:24,159 of demand for electricity, scarcity of electric sources. People talk about 1195 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:28,920 nuclear. My god, what kind of hazard is a potential emergency condition with a 1196 01:56:27,199 --> 01:56:35,760 nuclear power facility? Please think this through, 1197 01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:41,280 please. Thank you. The next uh signed name on here is Susan 1198 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,280 Mullen. 1199 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:59,280 Well, thank you for listening once again. 1200 01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:08,920 Um, the thing about solar is, you know, people say, "I don't want to see it." 1201 01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:14,719 Every time I pass a solar field, I smile. I think, "Yes, this is right. 1202 01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:19,760 This is the right thing for energy today. We need it. We have got to have 1203 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:25,239 solar. You can build this and you can. It's on. You got it. You get it quickly. 1204 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:31,080 It's cheaper than any other source of power. It is clean. It is what we ought 1205 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:35,840 to do. And I say, I love solar. I'm 1206 01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:40,320 environmentalist. I was on the board of the Southern Environmental Law Center 1207 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:45,800 for 22 years and we've done an awful lot of work and thank God I sleep much 1208 01:57:43,679 --> 01:57:56,560 better because I know that they are out protecting air, water and soil. We need 1209 01:57:51,920 --> 01:58:03,440 solar. Solar is it's all almost the only answer right now. So I encourage you all 1210 01:58:00,719 --> 01:58:06,639 really, you know, you've s you know a lot of this that we've been hearing the 1211 01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:12,480 complaints. You know they're not accurate. You know that there's a lot of 1212 01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:17,679 false information out there. Solar is the way to go. We need it. And I y'all 1213 01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:24,159 already know how I feel about Chase City. So I think Chase City needs it 1214 01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:29,639 too. And so I would certainly vote ask all of you all to vote for this project 1215 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:35,960 because J City needs it, the community needs 1216 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:39,119 it, the the climate needs it. Thank 1217 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:44,599 you. Next name is John Mullen. 1218 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:59,040 I'll be very brief because uh doesn't sound like it would do much good to 1219 01:58:56,239 --> 01:59:05,760 repeat my earlier remarks. Um I think one thing that the supervisors um should 1220 01:59:03,199 --> 01:59:12,719 think about is the planning commission has approved this project twice. Uh 1221 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:18,760 including after the modified long range plan was put in place. Uh I was told a 1222 01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:22,960 year or so ago by one of the supervisors, why would we have a 1223 01:59:20,639 --> 01:59:28,000 planning commission if we don't pay any attention to them? They've obviously 1224 01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:33,199 done a lot of research on this. I don't know after time we really had to think 1225 01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:39,040 this through, but uh clearly if the planning commission thinks it's okay uh 1226 01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:43,679 and has voted for it twice, I would hope you keep that in mind. And I do think 1227 01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:50,639 that the personal property rights issues are very import. I mean 1228 01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:56,560 um the fact that that is in compliance with every thing that's uh it has to be 1229 01:59:54,400 --> 02:00:00,880 in compliance with and is approved by the planning commission I hope would 1230 01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:08,199 hold some weight with this uh commission. Thank you. 1231 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:08,199 The next speaker is Karen Drosiaak. 1232 02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:25,040 Thank you very much. I'm Karen Drosiaak with First Solar. I'd like to address 1233 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:30,239 some of the concerns about the safety of our technology. Um the beauty about 1234 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:34,320 having a proven technology that has been safely operating in the field for more 1235 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:40,080 than two decades is that it has been extensively studied and tested. Whether 1236 02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:46,400 it's breakage, whether it's fire, natural disasters, you name it. So let's 1237 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:51,880 start with the with the materials. It has a scary name, but it is very 1238 02:00:48,719 --> 02:00:58,800 different from elemental cadmium. Much like H2O, water is different from 1239 02:00:55,440 --> 02:01:05,199 hydrogen a gas. So this matters. This means it is extremely chemically stable 1240 02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:11,599 and thermally is thermally stable. So, in the event of a fire, worst case, 1241 02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:15,119 assuming all the CAD tell were to be emitted from the from the panels, which 1242 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:22,480 is highly unlikely, and I'll explain why in a second, assuming that worst case is 1243 02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:27,840 a 100,000 times less than routine cadmium emissions from coal and oil 1244 02:01:24,719 --> 02:01:32,880 power plants. So, why is this worst case scenario unlikely? Because cadmium 1245 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:39,199 teleride has an extremely high melting point and boiling point 2,000 degrees 1246 02:01:35,639 --> 02:01:44,800 Celsius or two sorry Fahrenheit. Um that's well above your typical grassfire 1247 02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:50,119 temperatures. What happens is the glass melts around and encapsulates the 1248 02:01:47,599 --> 02:01:56,639 material 99.96% of it. This is why it is safe in 1249 02:01:54,239 --> 02:02:01,440 the event of a fire. It is safe in the event of breakage because there are no 1250 02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:07,840 liquids or vapors that can leak out and it has been proven for more than two 1251 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:12,360 decades and there have been not a single reported instance of concern of 1252 02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:17,520 environmental contamination in the field over these 1253 02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:24,000 two decades it has been deployed across more than 45 countries around the world. 1254 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:30,520 60,000 megawws have been deployed. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker is Joel 1255 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,520 Cathy. 1256 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:47,960 Hello, I'm Joel Kathy again. I appreciate y'all allowing me to speak. 1257 02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:52,880 Um, I just want to reiterate um private property rights. Um, this is 1258 02:02:51,199 --> 02:02:57,520 a practice the state of Virginia is mandated to Dominion Power that certain 1259 02:02:55,520 --> 02:03:03,560 amount of their electricity is going to come from renewables. So, it's a state 1260 02:03:00,639 --> 02:03:09,199 instigated process. Um, it's a legal process. It's been proved that it's not 1261 02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:12,560 harmful and land owners ought to be allowed to make decisions on their own 1262 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:19,480 property. I mean, that's what this country was built on. Thank you, 1263 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,480 Matt KS. 1264 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:30,560 Supervisors. Uh Matt Karns, I head up development for Long Road. Um I 1265 02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:38,000 understand that you're in a difficult spot here hearing all kinds of um 1266 02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:41,280 theories and ideas about solar. Um I think what we can say though is with the 1267 02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:47,239 recommendation from the planning commission those are specific standards 1268 02:03:44,239 --> 02:03:52,880 that this project after 8 years multiple changes that were made to 1269 02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:57,440 accommodate specific concerns they agreed with the recommendation to move 1270 02:03:55,199 --> 02:04:02,400 forward with approval. So it wasn't a it wasn't a project that was just kind of 1271 02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:07,040 jammed into a permit application. This project has been tailored to meet the 1272 02:04:04,639 --> 02:04:11,760 needs of and and with the input of people who live here. Um I take the 1273 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:16,400 supervisor's point about about fire issues and I really appreciate that 1274 02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:20,880 question. We work in every major uh market across the United States. We work 1275 02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:25,360 very closely with fire departments and do uh coordinated response and 1276 02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:32,239 education. So that is an area that we would be very quick to coordinate on. Um 1277 02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:38,960 I think also just you don't have to make the decision based on uh guessing or 1278 02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:43,280 supposition or rumor or internet theory. There are standards that apply. There 1279 02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:49,520 are standards that the public the planning commission applied. Specific 1280 02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:54,320 standards, state, local and federal rules all apply here. We will not be 1281 02:04:52,159 --> 02:05:00,800 impacting wetlands above a particular point. We are not allowed to. we have 1282 02:04:56,719 --> 02:05:05,360 these uh areas are carefully engineered with respect to flood water and with 1283 02:05:02,719 --> 02:05:11,520 storm water. They are better engineered than many many other land uses that we 1284 02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:15,360 see. Um so I think what I would ask is that you make the decision based on the 1285 02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:20,239 recommendation from the planning commission. You can defer to their 1286 02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:23,840 expertise. You can defer to the federal government in certain cases with respect 1287 02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:29,360 to what navigable waters of the United States. These standards are in place for 1288 02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:33,119 a reason. And Virginia now has a lot of experience with solar and a lot of that 1289 02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:38,400 has been folded back into the Department of Environmental Quality process, the 1290 02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:44,880 the PBR process. And so all those lessons learned are now baked in. So we 1291 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:49,599 can be the capstone. We can be the premier solar project and be proud of it 1292 02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:55,119 because we've been working on it for eight years with you, with the 1293 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:58,639 neighbors, with a variety of folks who have weighed in, have come to us and 1294 02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:03,599 said, "Let's make this the best solar project in the Commonwealth." We can do 1295 02:06:01,199 --> 02:06:08,960 that. And I would ask you to approve the SCP. we can move forward separately on a 1296 02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:14,000 separate discussion about the sighting act or the sighting agreement. Um but I 1297 02:06:12,239 --> 02:06:17,920 truly appreciate the opportunity to invest in this county. We have been 1298 02:06:16,239 --> 02:06:26,599 trying to do it for eight years. We would love to um meet you at the ribbon 1299 02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:26,599 cutting. So thank you. Thank you Tom. 1300 02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:38,800 Thank you. I'll just take a quick minute since I already spoke for three minutes 1301 02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:43,440 before. Um the Evergreen team, again, I'm with the Evergreen team. We believe 1302 02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:49,520 in conservation. Our motto is keeping the country country. Um we believe that 1303 02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:56,000 really the the only way that you can really lose the country and the rural 1304 02:06:52,159 --> 02:07:01,199 the rural um um culture of your county is through subdivisions. So that's why 1305 02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:09,119 we are looking at at trying to work any way we can to save land in perpetuity. 1306 02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:12,800 Um so we always say that that a any land eventually whether you're talking about 1307 02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:18,239 you know 10 years or 100 years or a thousand years will always go towards 1308 02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:27,440 subdivision because of the four Ds and one of them is divorce uh debt death and 1309 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:32,079 excuse me dumbass decisions. Um so we are are always working hard to work in 1310 02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:38,320 to save land in perpetuity which this pro project would do. Um also I heard a 1311 02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:43,040 number of um you know great great points on both sides. I would say that several 1312 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:48,000 people that are against it are talking about um people that are associated with 1313 02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:51,840 a project are is because of money. And we would I would say that the Evergreen 1314 02:07:50,239 --> 02:07:57,920 Team, which is an environmental nonprofit, we believe in a triple bot 1315 02:07:54,320 --> 02:08:03,199 bottom line, which is people, planet, and economy. You got to have all three 1316 02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:07,520 of those to save the environment. I've been I'm an environmental engineer. I've 1317 02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:12,159 dealt with contamination my whole my whole life. I've traveled to third world 1318 02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:18,400 nations and when you don't have a strong economy, the environment goes downhill. 1319 02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:24,239 We work um extensively with land owners up and down Virginia and Pennsylvania 1320 02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:31,239 and in areas where that is hurting economy. The environment looks terrible. 1321 02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:36,960 Trash, uh water pollution, surface water contamination. Um economy is a good 1322 02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:39,719 thing. It helps people and it helps the environment. 1323 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:43,840 Thank you. Next speaker is Matt 1324 02:08:50,119 --> 02:08:56,079 English. I'm going to make it brief. Rain's 1325 02:08:53,480 --> 02:09:00,440 coming. Daylight's getting short and I don't know where y'all going to 1326 02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:04,800 vote. But, you know, think of all these businesses that y'all 1327 02:09:03,119 --> 02:09:11,199 have approved here in the last few years. How many is going to support a 1328 02:09:09,079 --> 02:09:15,760 farmer? How many is going to support wounded 1329 02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:17,760 warriors? Did the data center down here? Did they say we're going to take a 1330 02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:19,960 couple hundred acres and we're going to let wounded warriors come in here and 1331 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:24,400 hunt and fish? Did some of these other businesses 1332 02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:30,239 say, "Hey, we're going to get as many farmers in the Southside area to to come 1333 02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:34,400 together and farm on us. We're not going to use mowers and bush hogs and 1334 02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:37,880 chemicals. We're going to let local farmers come 1335 02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:42,760 and use our land and if they need anything, we'll 1336 02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:48,400 take care of them because we support them. Just keep that in mind. Lastly, 1337 02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:51,040 I'd like to end with this. Several people on both sides aisle, forward or 1338 02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:54,000 against it, come to me and they said, "Matt," they said, "How come you ain't 1339 02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:57,040 farming up here?" He said, "You know, it's one right up your road. It's one 1340 02:09:55,760 --> 02:10:01,840 back over here in this community. You know, that's halfway to you." And well, 1341 02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:04,880 you know, happy Mother's Day, ladies. Anyway, my mama always said, "If it's 1342 02:10:03,679 --> 02:10:08,679 not something nice to say about somebody, don't say nothing about them 1343 02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:13,639 at all." And that's all I'm going to say about 1344 02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:19,119 those other companies. They're just like plumbers, policemen, 1345 02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:24,079 politicians, you name it. And where it's good ones and it's bad ones. Why do you 1346 02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:28,560 think I jumped over those sites to try to come on this 1347 02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:33,280 site? These are the most proactive people I've ever dealt with. 1348 02:10:31,599 --> 02:10:36,079 And I've gone back to the companies I work with and I've told them some of the 1349 02:10:34,719 --> 02:10:41,440 things that anyway this company's trying to do and I'm like, "Hey, you know, we 1350 02:10:38,079 --> 02:10:46,360 need to wake up." So that's all I'm going to say. Thank y'all and thank you 1351 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:46,360 for the time, 1352 02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,360 Brenda 1353 02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:55,280 Walker. Okay. Charles 1354 02:10:57,239 --> 02:11:01,639 Jackson, Glenn Bernie. 1355 02:11:12,719 --> 02:11:20,480 Good morning. Good morning. Bernie, 449 Fairy Hill Trail, 1356 02:11:18,199 --> 02:11:26,320 Clark. I'm a member of the Clarksville Riverton Club. 1357 02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:31,199 One of our projects we have is uh rent and utility bill 1358 02:11:28,199 --> 02:11:36,480 assistance which we spend about $30,000 a year on that 1359 02:11:32,679 --> 02:11:44,119 program. It benefits the needy people in the Clarksville area only right now. 1360 02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:50,440 Long Road Energy has pledged to donate $150,000 to our club to be used for 1361 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:57,199 electricity bill systems. And we would take that money 1362 02:11:54,119 --> 02:12:02,280 and use it over a 10-year period to supplement what we already do. and it 1363 02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:08,320 would help us be able to expand our electric bill assistance program 1364 02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:13,119 from Clarks area only to residents of the entire 1365 02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:17,000 county. So just a benefit from Long Road for 1366 02:12:14,119 --> 02:12:22,079 our county and some of the most needy people. So I ask in conclusion that you 1367 02:12:20,159 --> 02:12:25,079 take that into account in the final vote. 1368 02:12:26,639 --> 02:12:29,199 Monty High 1369 02:12:31,639 --> 02:12:43,400 Tower. Ladies and gentlemen, the B. Oh, Monty High Tile, 247 Autumn Lane, Chase 1370 02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:43,400 City. And 1371 02:12:43,639 --> 02:12:51,520 um for some of y'all don't uh know me, my my family has been in Mechanburg 1372 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:59,639 County since at least 1750. It's for Mechmber County, Looney County. So, uh, 1373 02:12:55,760 --> 02:13:06,880 I'm not somebody just came here. Uh, 90% of the farmers that were here 40 1374 02:13:04,159 --> 02:13:14,520 years ago are not here. Now, farming is just as much an industry as any other 1375 02:13:10,079 --> 02:13:14,520 big uh, factory. 1376 02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:24,639 uh monocropping thousands and thousands of 1377 02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:27,800 acres of soybeans which have no value to the pollinators. 1378 02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:31,880 All the soybeans are 1379 02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:37,520 uh wind pollinated. The 1380 02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:46,440 uh pollinator habitat that the solar farms could be putting up be used by 1381 02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:52,400 bees, bugs, 1382 02:13:48,679 --> 02:13:57,840 insects. Uh the pine trees they cutting down had very little pollinator value. 1383 02:13:55,119 --> 02:14:02,400 Pollinators are are the foundation of our whole ecosystem. In fact, the 1384 02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:09,719 pollinators uh the birds eat the bugs to feed the 1385 02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:17,199 baby birds. Uh it just starts and builds up. 1386 02:14:12,599 --> 02:14:23,520 So the saying that the cell phones are bad for nature is not. I'm a certified 1387 02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:28,400 Virginia master naturalist. I have never heard any 1388 02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:35,520 complaints through the master naturalist against solar farms and Virginia master 1389 02:14:32,159 --> 02:14:35,520 naturalist or citizen 1390 02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:42,560 scientist. People say solar doesn't work. Well, if it doesn't work, ask 1391 02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:46,679 eight people living on the International Space Station how they live. All that 1392 02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:52,159 power comes from solar. 1393 02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:56,880 Um, and for everybody complaining about the solar farms, how would you like if 1394 02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:59,760 if your neighbor comes in and tells you, "I don't like the color of your house." 1395 02:14:58,159 --> 02:15:04,880 You got to paint your house. I don't like the flowers you you planted. You 1396 02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:10,800 got to cut your flowers down. Uh, I don't like that tree you 1397 02:15:07,159 --> 02:15:16,880 planted. Remember, uh, everything goes in a circle. So if 1398 02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:20,440 every if one person can't do something then why can somebody else not have the 1399 02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:27,280 same complaint and thank 1400 02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:27,280 you next speaker is Woody 1401 02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:41,199 Moore greetings to the board chairman Woody Moore 5189 Country Club Drive City 1402 02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:48,320 uh you've already heard me say what I said earlier on it Um much of what I 1403 02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:53,159 have seen and done the bigger issue is one more time and it was just stated 1404 02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:58,960 again. Yes, solar works. How well it works is a different 1405 02:15:55,679 --> 02:16:01,920 ball game and uh somebody's home and individual home or things like that that 1406 02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:04,800 they can put it up and usually get by with it. Although I've heard a lot of 1407 02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:08,480 mess about that that it's not working or people are having problems with the 1408 02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:12,880 companies put it in. But it's my understanding I this is just what I've 1409 02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:16,400 been told by the what's been handed down from the data centers and some others 1410 02:16:14,719 --> 02:16:22,400 around here that what's already here wouldn't fund wouldn't fuel power for a 1411 02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:27,280 third of the the data centers that's already here much less what's coming 1412 02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:32,399 which that's a whole another issue and so what it sounds like to me is 1413 02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:36,240 um I understand they've done a great job of wanting to come in and and set it up 1414 02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:41,519 environmentally better and all this stuff that nobody else has been able to 1415 02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:44,559 do which is weird. Uh over and above that if it what it sounds like in order 1416 02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:48,800 to have the power that's going to be necessary and the power that is claimed 1417 02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:52,319 that they produce everybody's land around here will be covered in so solar 1418 02:16:50,559 --> 02:16:56,319 panels. It's not going to happen just a little bit like what we've seen. This is 1419 02:16:53,840 --> 02:17:01,519 going to expand and expand and expand in order to meet the need of power that is 1420 02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:06,880 out there. It is not efficient. I'm sorry. It's just not. Um and and again I 1421 02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:10,319 I've been with the guys up in Buckingham looked at the p what the power is 1422 02:17:08,479 --> 02:17:13,679 producing out of the ones that's up up off of Cumberland line of Cumberland 1423 02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:16,639 where you can see on the grid what's coming out of these others that are in 1424 02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:22,240 Chase City that are working the percentage is not there. It's not even 1425 02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:27,599 50% fe people and most of the time it's even under 1426 02:17:23,960 --> 02:17:32,399 20. It just does not commute compute to me. I I don't I don't understand it. Uh, 1427 02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:36,960 I was all for it years ago. Until I see what it actually produces, it's a 1428 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:43,439 different ball game. At any rate, again, I'm against it and and um just take that 1429 02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:47,960 into consideration. Thank you. The next sign up is Brandon Estes. 1430 02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:52,880 Okay. Uh Melanie 1431 02:17:54,040 --> 02:18:01,120 Woods. Paul Brer. Oh, Jean Gohagen. 1432 02:18:06,399 --> 02:18:15,280 Genie gohagen. Hello again. Um, I'm not going to get into any big discussion, 1433 02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:20,719 but I do want to mention a statistic I saw the other day. Five lakes in 1434 02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:28,200 Virginia, including Bugs Island, Kur Lake. Kur Lake is the most polluted from 1435 02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:28,200 agriculture. Thank you. 1436 02:18:28,399 --> 02:18:35,359 That's everyone who's signed up. I don't know if there's anybody else. Okay. Uh 1437 02:18:32,960 --> 02:18:41,639 any anyone else wishing to speak uh during this public public hearing for 1438 02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:44,639 this special exception permit? 1439 02:18:53,639 --> 02:19:04,800 Okay. Lisa Davis Bishop again. 1645 Scotch Crossroads. U I remain against 1440 02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:09,599 the project. Um I one more point that I I wanted perhaps I didn't come across 1441 02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:15,679 well with before. I'd like to point out that solar panels 1442 02:19:12,439 --> 02:19:20,519 um shed water like a roof. Think about it. All that water is going to go off of 1443 02:19:18,719 --> 02:19:27,040 that. It's going to be channeled unnaturally into a place it 1444 02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:31,160 was not designed to go into and that will cause erosion that will leech down 1445 02:19:29,519 --> 02:19:38,319 into the soil and it's going to cause issues. 1446 02:19:35,479 --> 02:19:45,519 Um, please put yourself in my shoes again. Please save our home from 1447 02:19:41,880 --> 02:19:54,840 this. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to 1448 02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:54,840 speak before we cliff? 1449 02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:08,319 Thank you, Chairman Jennings, members of the board. Um, I just wanted to come up 1450 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:16,640 and and say a few words. I mean, I know become a familiar face over the years. 1451 02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:22,160 Uh and the um the thing that we've been actively 1452 02:20:19,439 --> 02:20:26,319 doing is addressing tough questions throughout the development of this 1453 02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:32,000 project. You know, we've addressed tough questions on related to the South 1454 02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:37,520 Maharan River and we've addressed uh tough questions related to 1455 02:20:34,359 --> 02:20:45,680 visibility and that's something that we've proven to be good at and 1456 02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:49,920 uh would look to continue to do here in Meckllinburgg County. 1457 02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:54,720 I've listened closely to all the speakers today for and against and you 1458 02:20:52,319 --> 02:21:02,640 know we've submitted a substantial amount of information to the county and 1459 02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:06,800 while there's been uh certainly concerns mentioned 1460 02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:10,880 today between the various things we've done to address concerns like related to 1461 02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:14,760 Scott's crossroads and the the questions about good neighbor agreements. We've 1462 02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:18,640 submitted a signed sworn affidavit clarifying that we're not pursuing good 1463 02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:28,160 neighbor agreements and haven't since early 2024 related to uh the visibility 1464 02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:33,120 and um from public roads, you know, Scott's crossroads from every different 1465 02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:36,560 direction short of as Mr. Mullen said, if you're flying in an airplane or a 1466 02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:40,160 helicopter, then you'd be able to see the project. You've seen simulations. 1467 02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:46,000 Some of you have been out to the site and seen it firsthand. the drive that 1468 02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:50,080 you need to take back to the uh back through the woods to get to the site. 1469 02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:55,680 Um, some of you spent time on farm fields next to the site and we've worked 1470 02:21:53,359 --> 02:22:01,920 hard to uh address concerns that have come up in this community and I believe 1471 02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:05,680 we've done a a uh sort of a great job of that and I appreciate the time that 1472 02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:11,359 you've spent uh listening to me over the months and I would ask that you take 1473 02:22:07,439 --> 02:22:17,280 into account in your vote today the uh three pages of of signatures in support 1474 02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:21,920 that were submitted earlier. Um, I would estimate that's probably 50s something 1475 02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:27,359 signatures in support. Those came from Chase City, Scott's Crossroads, the 1476 02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:33,520 areas right around the project. And that should be a meaningful consideration in 1477 02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:39,200 your vote. And so I appreciate your time today and we'll ask that you take that 1478 02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:43,040 into consideration uh with your vote on this on the Seven Bridges Solar Project. 1479 02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:48,560 Thank you. Thank 1480 02:22:44,920 --> 02:22:48,560 you. Anyone 1481 02:22:49,880 --> 02:22:59,640 else hearing? No one. Seeing no one, I will now close the public 1482 02:22:56,040 --> 02:23:05,479 hearing on the special exemption permit for seven bridges solo. 1483 02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:12,160 After conducting a duly advertised public hearing, I make 1484 02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:16,319 the motion, it is hereby resolved by the Meckllinburgg County Board of 1485 02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:21,359 Supervisors that after considering the staff reports prepared by the zoning 1486 02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:25,359 administrator and after considering comments made in the public hearing and 1487 02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:30,479 after considering other matters deemed revolent by the board, the special 1488 02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:35,800 exemption permit application submitted on September the 10th, 202 24 by seven 1489 02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:43,520 Bridges Solar LLC for the proposed 80 megawatt Seven 1490 02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:50,000 Bridges Solar facility is hereby denied for the following reasons, each of which 1491 02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:53,560 was set forth in the staff report. The site will be 1492 02:23:51,560 --> 02:24:00,720 utilizing 1,249 acres of prime farmland of 1493 02:23:56,800 --> 02:24:07,600 statewide importance to develop a 435 acre solar facility. A small portion of 1494 02:24:04,160 --> 02:24:13,040 the land scores class three or class 4 on the Virginia 1495 02:24:09,479 --> 02:24:17,359 conservation vision agricultural model. The property has moderate, high, very 1496 02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:21,760 high, and outstanding forest conservation values on the Virginia 1497 02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:27,840 conservation vision forestry conservation values model. A number of 1498 02:24:25,280 --> 02:24:34,200 proposed panels on the submitted concept plan are situated in areas designated as 1499 02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:39,439 very high or outstanding. The property registers as 1500 02:24:36,880 --> 02:24:44,160 having high ecological cores on the Virginia natural landscape 1501 02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:51,120 assessment. Portions of the property are on the Virginia natural land network. 1502 02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:56,720 The applicant provided a construction route that all loaded commercial 1503 02:24:53,840 --> 02:25:02,439 vehicles would use Highway 49 construction entrance and other 1504 02:24:58,880 --> 02:25:08,560 construction traffic would use Highway 633 Scots Crossroads to include unloaded 1505 02:25:06,160 --> 02:25:13,520 commercial vehicles. However, the applicant has not provided a total 1506 02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:18,240 vehicle count that would be utilizing the construction routes. 1507 02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:23,840 The project is being developed within the proximity of South Mahar River which 1508 02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:29,760 flows into the Maharin River. These waterways could be affected if any 1509 02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:33,840 contamination were to leave the site. Additionally, the Maharan River has been 1510 02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:39,600 designated by the Virginia General Assembly as the state scenic river 1511 02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:39,600 section 1512 02:25:39,880 --> 02:25:47,600 10.1-418.3 of the code of Virginia. As the Virginia Department of Conservation 1513 02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:52,880 and Natural Resources noted, a good portion of this land is tumble land and 1514 02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:58,319 has ample forest buff buffers which provide a sense of isolation and 1515 02:25:56,160 --> 02:26:04,240 remoteness. And the Maharin River corridor contains few signs of housing 1516 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:09,600 or industrial development. Several houses and cabins may be seen along the 1517 02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:15,840 route, but they are few and far between and often veiled by foliage. The 1518 02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:22,000 sighting of these structures well away from flood zones, high on the banks and 1519 02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:27,040 behind vegetative buffers does not significantly compromise the sense of 1520 02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:33,439 isolation on the water or the aesthetic quality of the court. An industrial 1521 02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:41,160 development would be contrary to these statements. A yes vote for this motion 1522 02:26:37,359 --> 02:26:46,439 would be to deny the special exemption permit. Any discussion from board 1523 02:26:43,439 --> 02:26:46,439 members? 1524 02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:53,359 Only thing I would say, Mr. Jenn, is without the sign or approved sighting 1525 02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:58,680 agreement, it would be fiscally irresponsible to approve this. I agree. 1526 02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:08,319 Jenny, you want to make a roll call vote? 1527 02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:17,600 Mr. Yes. Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr. Spence. Yes. Mr. Harbrook. Yes. Mr. Wilkinson. 1528 02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:23,640 Yes. M. Blackwell. No. Mrs. Lundy. Yes. Mr. Tanner. Yes. Mr. Jennings. Yes. 1529 02:27:24,600 --> 02:27:31,680 Okay. I will welcome everybody to stay for our rest of our meeting. Anybody 1530 02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:35,399 that wishes to leave, I'll give you a couple of minutes to go. 1531 02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:46,479 Y'all want to take five minutes? Russell, what? Russell. Hey, Russell. 1532 02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:51,240 I'm try to get in front of We're going to take a fivem minute break. Wish you 1533 02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,240 would. 1534 02:35:23,920 --> 02:35:30,640 Where we going? Kevin, I think you up next. We We didn't got to the easy part 1535 02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:33,479 here now. Kevin said next time. Move him to the 1536 02:35:32,319 --> 02:35:37,800 front. Mr. Excuse me. 1537 02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:47,840 Yeah, you had one. Robert has one one more item to update you on. 1538 02:35:44,399 --> 02:35:53,520 I have one update for the board. Um, oh, the planning commission held a comp plan 1539 02:35:50,240 --> 02:36:00,880 review for analyst row, which is RWE on that 2232. Mhm. The planning commission 1540 02:35:56,960 --> 02:36:05,280 benied the application. So on May 5th, they filed an appeal to the board of 1541 02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:13,120 supervisors. So you all would need to make a decision on um when y'all want to 1542 02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:18,080 hold the hearing date, public hearing. I think they have to do it within 60 1543 02:36:14,960 --> 02:36:24,640 days. Yeah. July. Yeah. You can do it in in June or July. 1544 02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:30,800 Either one. Is it 60 days from their appeal? Yes. In which case we can't do 1545 02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:41,240 July. Oh, the dates too. Yeah. We meet on second Monday. 60 days would be July. 1546 02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:41,240 So, we can't do it June. Be June. Okay. 1547 02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:50,200 That's all I have. Okay. Thank you. All right. Kevin, 1548 02:36:50,720 --> 02:36:54,200 July meeting. 1549 02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:07,280 Do I need to go first? I do. Yeah. The first thing I wanted would be Kirk's 1550 02:37:04,479 --> 02:37:11,760 report from this morning. All right. Kirk. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 1551 02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:15,840 The secondary roads committee met on Monday, May 12th, 2025 at 8 a.m. in the 1552 02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:19,600 board of supervisors meeting room for Virginia. Members present Kirk Rav, 1553 02:37:17,840 --> 02:37:24,240 chairman Sterling Wilson, David Franklin, Andy Harwood. Others present, 1554 02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:28,760 Jim Jennings, Dennis Spence, Tom Tanner, Alex Scott, county administrator. Judy 1555 02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:33,160 Smith, Sheffield, assistant county administrator. Jenny Wimmore, clerk, 1556 02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:37,439 Kevin Smith, VOT, assistant resident, engineer. Chairman Gravit called the 1557 02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:42,240 meeting to order. Mr. Gotchalk stated at the last board of supervisors meeting 1558 02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:46,640 held on April 14th. The board voted unanimously to advertise a public 1559 02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:51,520 hearing to consider adding Fineywood Road, Hilltop Road, the Grand Road, 1560 02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:58,160 Wheatland Road, and Turkey Road to the six-year plan. The public hearing was 1561 02:37:54,520 --> 02:38:06,479 open. Greenwood Road residents JA Jordan, Matt Clark, Carolyn Evans, Hbert 1562 02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:10,640 Overton, and Margaret Smith. addressed the committee asking for 1563 02:38:08,479 --> 02:38:15,600 Greenwood Road to be placed on the six-year plan. They explained that the 1564 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:21,040 road count was redone in 2023 and that the board was not notified by VOTE that 1565 02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:24,800 their count went from 40 to 70 due to new growth and development. The 1566 02:38:22,880 --> 02:38:29,600 residents complained about dust erosion and boardwash. The public hearing was 1567 02:38:26,960 --> 02:38:35,760 closed. The committee discussed adding a revenue sharing project for 2029 to the 1568 02:38:32,479 --> 02:38:40,240 advert to the advertised six-year plan. Upon motion of Mr. Hargrove, the 1569 02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:47,439 committee voted unanimously to add Greenwood Road to the V. FY 2026 through 1570 02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:54,160 30 2031 six-year plan that was previously advertised as a revenue 1571 02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:59,800 sharing project. And Mr. Mr Chairman, I believe we may need to stop here and 1572 02:38:56,000 --> 02:39:05,280 have a public hearing about amending. Okay. So, I will declare a public 1573 02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:11,160 hearing open for the six-year plan. Anyone wishing to speak? 1574 02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:11,160 Sure. 1575 02:39:13,359 --> 02:39:20,479 Everybody else left. It's your chance. 1576 02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:26,080 I I I just scanning the crowd. I don't see any dirt road complaints here, but 1577 02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:30,479 Okay. Hearing no one, we'll close the public hearing. And 1578 02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:34,920 thank you, Mr. Chair. Upon a motion of Mr. Harrove, the committee voted 1579 02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:42,560 unanimously to recommend approval of the FY2026 through 2031 VOT six-year plan as 1580 02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:49,359 follows. Uh, Lono Road 2026, Lambert Road 2026, Bowowers Road 2027, Wilson 1581 02:39:45,760 --> 02:39:54,920 Newton Road 2027, Twin Cedar Road 2028, and Reicho Road 1582 02:39:51,160 --> 02:40:02,080 2028. Luck Circle 2029, Dixie Bridge 2029, Hilltop Road 2029, Green Green 1583 02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:07,520 Greenwood Road 2029, Lrand Road 2031, Weedman Road 2031, Turkey Road 1584 02:40:05,319 --> 02:40:13,520 2031. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to put in formal motion. Okay. Motion being made 1585 02:40:10,960 --> 02:40:16,880 to approve the six-year plan. Uh, any more 1586 02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:22,000 discussion? All in favor of the motion say I. Opposed? The motion carries. 1587 02:40:20,560 --> 02:40:27,439 There being no further business, the meeting will adjourn. Okay. All right, 1588 02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:32,479 Kevin. All right. Should be brief. Our monthly report, you got it in the 1589 02:40:30,240 --> 02:40:36,399 package. Couple couple things I want to hit on. We are safety mowing 1590 02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:40,560 intersections right now. Primary mowing is scheduled to start this this week. 1591 02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:45,120 Um, of course, weather permitting. They're calling for some rain. Uh, and 1592 02:40:43,120 --> 02:40:50,080 then the only thing we've got coming up, Route 733, 1593 02:40:47,359 --> 02:40:54,720 um, MT Hayes Road. Uh we're we're planning on closing that this week for a 1594 02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:58,880 pipe replacement detour be in place. Weather permitting. We'll get it done by 1595 02:40:56,399 --> 02:41:03,600 the end of the week. That's all. Okay. Is that all you have? 1596 02:41:00,560 --> 02:41:08,240 Yes. All right. Nobody has anything. And we'll move 1597 02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:12,439 right along to the property committee. You done yet? 1598 02:41:10,880 --> 02:41:18,880 I'll do my best to brief. I'm terrible. I wish it was. 1599 02:41:16,399 --> 02:41:21,600 Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. A meeting in the property committee was 1600 02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:25,439 held at the end for the county of Mechenburgg on April 14th, 2025 at 1 1601 02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:29,840 p.m. in the board of supervisor meeting room with the good bank building. I call 1602 02:41:27,680 --> 02:41:37,080 the meeting to order. I do a roll call. Myself is here. Claudia 1603 02:41:32,760 --> 02:41:37,080 Londe, David Branklin. 1604 02:41:38,359 --> 02:41:46,760 No, they were here at that meeting. This was I see Andy Harro, Dennis Spence also 1605 02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:51,680 present. Jim Jennings, Tom Tanner, Russell Scott, Brent Evans, Brian Do 1606 02:41:50,080 --> 02:41:56,399 Scott Warner, Judy Sheffield, and Jenny Wood. He was calling the door. Close 1607 02:41:53,439 --> 02:42:02,160 session. C1, Jefferson Street property. C2, Highway 92 property. C3, Lacrosse 1608 02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:06,479 Elementary School site selection. Upon a motion of H Andy Hoger, the board voted 1609 02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:08,800 yes to convene close session pursuant to section 1610 02:42:09,640 --> 02:42:15,760 2.2-3711-8.3 of a code of Virginia. Discussion or consideration of the 1611 02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:19,680 acquisition of real property for a public purpose or the disposition of 1612 02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:23,040 publicly held real property where discussion in an open meeting would 1613 02:42:21,200 --> 02:42:27,359 adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public 1614 02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:33,520 body. Sterling Wilson, Claudia Lundy, David Franklin, Andy Hallrove, Dennis 1615 02:42:29,439 --> 02:42:37,840 Spence voted I D. Open session. Upon a motion of Andy Hallrove, the board voted 1616 02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:41,520 unanimously to reconvene in open session. Sterling Wilkinson, Claudia 1617 02:42:39,680 --> 02:42:47,600 Lumi, David Franklin, Andy Harrove, Dennis voted I D1 is the certification 1618 02:42:45,399 --> 02:42:51,960 resolution. Upon a motion of Sterling Wilkinson, the board voted unanimously 1619 02:42:49,439 --> 02:42:55,760 to adopt the following certification resolution. Sterling Wilson, Claudia 1620 02:42:54,080 --> 02:43:01,080 Lundy, David Brankley, Andy Hallrove, Dennis Spence voted 1621 02:42:57,720 --> 02:43:04,880 I certification of close session. Whereas the MacBook County 1622 02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:08,800 Board of Supervisors convene to close session on this day pursuant to an 1623 02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:12,960 affirmative record vote in accordance with the provision of the Virginia 1624 02:43:10,240 --> 02:43:16,000 Freedom of Information Act. And whereas section 1625 02:43:14,120 --> 02:43:19,600 2.2-3711 of the code of Virginia requires a certification by the 1626 02:43:17,359 --> 02:43:24,000 Mugenburg County Board of Supervisors. As such closed session was conducted in 1627 02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:27,920 conformity with Virginia law. Now therefore be resolved that the Mugenberg 1628 02:43:25,840 --> 02:43:31,280 County Board of Supervisors hereby certifies that to the best of each 1629 02:43:29,359 --> 02:43:35,200 member's knowledge only public business matters lawfully exempted from open 1630 02:43:32,960 --> 02:43:38,560 meeting requirements by Virginia law were discussed in the close session to 1631 02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:42,800 which the certification resolution applies and only such public business 1632 02:43:40,960 --> 02:43:46,800 matters as were identified in the motion pertaining to close session were heard 1633 02:43:45,040 --> 02:43:51,960 discussed or considered by the Mber County Board of 1634 02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:56,640 Supervisors. C1 the Jefferson Street property Upon a motion of Andy Hogrove, 1635 02:43:54,640 --> 02:44:01,359 the board voted unanimously to authorize advertisement of a public hearing to be 1636 02:43:58,399 --> 02:44:06,640 held on May 12th, 2025 on the proposed conveyance to David Crowder, 1637 02:44:03,279 --> 02:44:11,120 approximately 150.5 square feet of real property known as the county public 1638 02:44:08,560 --> 02:44:18,680 parking lot located on Jefferson Street, Boon, Virginia 23917, and identified on 1639 02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:23,800 the Megmer County tax map as TMP 1110 A07- 1640 02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:28,160 A-065. Parcel record number 19916. Sterling Wilkerson, Claudia 1641 02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:33,279 Londy, David Brankley, Andy Hogrove, Dennis Spence voted I. And I pause here 1642 02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:37,520 need to have a public hearing. Okay. Uh we'll now open the public hearing for 1643 02:44:35,359 --> 02:44:43,120 the conveyance of real property to David Crowder. Anyone wishing to 1644 02:44:40,760 --> 02:44:48,720 speak? Hearing no one, we will close the public hearing. What are the wishes? I'd 1645 02:44:46,080 --> 02:44:55,760 like to make this in a form of a motion to approve this uh time. Motion's been 1646 02:44:52,240 --> 02:45:00,680 made. Uh all in favor say I. Those opposed. The motion carries. That's all 1647 02:44:58,560 --> 02:45:06,640 I have, Mr. Chairman. Okay. Budget finance. Mr. 1648 02:45:03,479 --> 02:45:10,000 Harrow an important part of the meeting. Nobody 1649 02:45:08,399 --> 02:45:16,160 meeting of the budget finance committee was held in and for the county mur on 1650 02:45:13,359 --> 02:45:21,439 April the 30th at 6 pm in the board of supervisor meeting room at the Google 1651 02:45:17,920 --> 02:45:26,000 school building school bank building um the roll call was myself chairman David 1652 02:45:23,680 --> 02:45:32,560 Franklin Wilson Tom Tanner Brenda Blackwell also Jim Jennings Krabbit 1653 02:45:29,200 --> 02:45:37,600 Marsha Seamus Brent Evans Justin Burch Judy Sheffield and Jenn 1654 02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:42,160 Whitmore This is Michelle Gordon, clerk of the circuit court is requesting that 1655 02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:46,399 that the her current budget to be amended based on the TTF money received 1656 02:45:44,319 --> 02:45:51,680 from the state compensation board in the amount of 1657 02:45:48,680 --> 02:45:55,760 $45,963. These funds would help pay to digitalize additional records, redact 1658 02:45:54,160 --> 02:46:01,840 records and yearly maintenance and current SR and SCV records. PAR will be 1659 02:45:59,120 --> 02:46:09,680 used on new equipment for PLA scanning. Uh, please appropriate 1660 02:46:04,359 --> 02:46:09,680 $45,963 from the funded to line item 1661 02:46:10,760 --> 02:46:17,840 021700-3500 for records of digitalizations. Upon the motion, well, 1662 02:46:15,359 --> 02:46:22,800 let me stop here and make this uh upon a motion uh Mr. Tana board voted 1663 02:46:20,720 --> 02:46:25,960 unanimously to recommend approval of the supplemental appropriation in the amount 1664 02:46:24,720 --> 02:46:32,279 of $45,963 to the circuit court clerk 1665 02:46:29,120 --> 02:46:36,800 budget line item records digitizations. Uh myself, David 1666 02:46:34,560 --> 02:46:41,760 Brankley, Sterling Wilson, Tom Town, and Brendan Blackwood both I uh I would like 1667 02:46:39,680 --> 02:46:46,399 to put this in the form of a motion that we uh render to the uh state 1668 02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:51,359 compensation board in the amount of $45,963. 1669 02:46:49,359 --> 02:46:58,000 Okay, everyone's heard the motion. All in favor say I. I. Oppos. Motion 1670 02:46:54,600 --> 02:47:03,279 carries. Mr. Gotcha. Brie review the bud the budget amendments previously sent to 1671 02:47:00,399 --> 02:47:07,680 the committee. Upon motion of David Brinkley, the board voted unanimous to 1672 02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:12,560 approve the proposed budget amendments as presented. Myself, David Brinkley, 1673 02:47:10,800 --> 02:47:17,920 Sterling Wilson, Tom Tan from the Blackwood voted I. Upon the motion of of 1674 02:47:16,319 --> 02:47:24,399 Sterling Wilkerson, the board voted unanimous to receive approval of the 1675 02:47:19,760 --> 02:47:29,520 recommended FY 202526 budget uh to the full board. Myself, David Brankley, St. 1676 02:47:27,439 --> 02:47:34,640 Sterling Wilkerson, Tom Tann, and Brendon Blackwell voted I. Uh I would 1677 02:47:32,479 --> 02:47:40,399 also like to put this into a form of a motion to receive these um these voted 1678 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:46,479 for for budget amendment and also for the approval of the amendment for 25 and 1679 02:47:43,840 --> 02:47:50,040 26 budget. Okay, everyone's heard the motion. Any discussion? 1680 02:47:50,960 --> 02:47:56,560 They were just placed into the proposed budget. So they included Yeah, the 1681 02:47:54,640 --> 02:48:00,319 amendments are good to go. Yeah. Yeah. We need to adopt the tax ordinance, the 1682 02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:03,680 budget ordinance. Well, we need roll call for those. We don't need it for 1683 02:48:01,840 --> 02:48:11,200 that. What he just made the motion, do we? What I made for that is doing that. 1684 02:48:07,120 --> 02:48:15,680 I'm sorry to say that what you read brings the those ordinances in front of 1685 02:48:13,439 --> 02:48:20,880 this body to vote upon. Right. That's what So there is no motions. We can just 1686 02:48:18,640 --> 02:48:24,399 vote on that and then everything else got to have a roll call. Am I correct on 1687 02:48:22,479 --> 02:48:29,200 that there? No, you don't have to vote on anything that he just did. Voting on 1688 02:48:26,560 --> 02:48:33,040 the ordinances is does all of the above. Does all the above. Okay. Well, good. 1689 02:48:31,200 --> 02:48:38,000 So, we need roll call on that, too. Okay. All right, Jenny. All right. So, 1690 02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:44,160 we'll do the tax ordinance first. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Mr. Brankley. Yes. Mr. 1691 02:48:41,040 --> 02:48:50,000 Grabbit? Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr. Hardro? Yes. 1692 02:48:46,479 --> 02:48:56,800 Mr. Wilkinson? Yes. Miss Blackwell? Yes. Miss Lundy? Yes. Mr. Tanner? Yes. Mr. 1693 02:48:53,520 --> 02:49:01,439 Jennings? Yes. Okay. The next one we will do for budget ordinance. Budget 1694 02:48:58,720 --> 02:49:07,680 ordinance, please. Mr. Brankley. Yes. Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr. Spence. Yes. Mr. 1695 02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:14,080 Harro. Yes. Mr. Wilkinson. Yep. M. Blackwell. Yes. Mrs. Lundy. Yes. Mr. 1696 02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:20,160 Tanner. Yes. Mr. Jennings. Yes. And then our capital improvement. 1697 02:49:16,960 --> 02:49:26,479 Mr. Brinkley. Yes. Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr. Spence. Yes. Mr. Harro. Yes. Mr. 1698 02:49:23,120 --> 02:49:32,960 Wilkinson. Yes. M. Blackwell. Yes. Mrs. Lundy. Yes. Mr. Tanner. Yes. Mr. 1699 02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:38,319 Jennings. Yes. The next one is Chaseet Elementary GMP. Pursuant to uh 1700 02:49:38,920 --> 02:49:45,279 56-575-16.5 of the code of Virginia, the Mechburg County Board of Supervisor 1701 02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:51,319 hereby authorizes the Merkburg County School Board to enter into a 1702 02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:54,720 comprehensive agreement to set in 56-575.9 of the code of Virginia with 1703 02:49:53,600 --> 02:49:58,960 Blair Construction for the rehabilitation expansion of Chase Hill 1704 02:49:56,880 --> 02:50:03,960 Elementary School at a construction guaranteed maximum price of 34,752,800. 1705 02:50:06,600 --> 02:50:16,160 76 motion. I would like to put this as a motion uh to receive that school board 1706 02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:21,760 receive the uh BL construction rehabilitation of the school for 34 1707 02:50:18,240 --> 02:50:28,680 million of best price. Okay, everyone's heard the motion. All in favor say I. I 1708 02:50:24,560 --> 02:50:28,680 oppose. The motion carries. 1709 02:50:28,960 --> 02:50:36,160 Is that all? Okay. All right. Public comment. I assume we had have none. I 1710 02:50:33,680 --> 02:50:42,640 think we all through all of that twice. Yeah. Well, they got tired of talking. 1711 02:50:38,720 --> 02:50:48,479 We're not going to let them talk. I'm okay. Um, Alex, 1712 02:50:46,160 --> 02:50:54,800 we just have your stat reports in here. Uh, the only thing I'd highlight is we 1713 02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:59,200 received the uh transformer system uh that's necessary to power our expansion 1714 02:50:57,680 --> 02:51:04,439 of this building here. So, hopefully that work will progress uh smoothly. We 1715 02:51:01,520 --> 02:51:10,000 were waiting on that part. Okay. So, that's it. You all right? 1716 02:51:08,560 --> 02:51:14,720 Chairman's report. We've got an appointment on the library board. 1717 02:51:17,319 --> 02:51:24,319 Um, so we've got one that's eligible for reappointment. 1718 02:51:24,920 --> 02:51:32,960 Um, Mr. Christy Russell was appointed to serve the unexpired term of Miss 1719 02:51:30,399 --> 02:51:37,439 Borhees. I'm not sure how you say her name, but anyway, u she's eligible for 1720 02:51:37,640 --> 02:51:45,040 reappoint. Anybody like to make a motion for that? So, move. All right. All in 1721 02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:49,080 favor of the motion say I. Motion carries. 1722 02:51:46,640 --> 02:51:54,680 And then we've got a resignation with two years left on the 1723 02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:59,920 term with Miss I mean, yeah, Amanda Bowen resigned 1724 02:51:57,479 --> 02:52:05,760 and she's got two years left on that term. So, we've got to appoint somebody 1725 02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:08,760 for that. And we've got Mr. Marcus Broadwater. I don't know him. I guess I 1726 02:52:07,840 --> 02:52:14,960 see the bio in there. 1727 02:52:12,319 --> 02:52:18,640 Anybody have any comment on that at all? What are you saying? I thought we just 1728 02:52:16,960 --> 02:52:22,720 um put one person in, is Christy Russell, one's resigning. Well, one's 1729 02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:27,120 resigning, too. Miss Bowman, who's resigning, but where are you now? At 1730 02:52:25,040 --> 02:52:31,600 Southside Planning, or you have another one for I got another one for Okay. 1731 02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:31,600 Okay. 1732 02:52:34,399 --> 02:52:44,160 Do we know anything? I don't know. I don't know anything about 1733 02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:51,880 on Tom. You know, I do. I do not. Does it have a resume? Yeah, it's on 1734 02:52:46,479 --> 02:52:51,880 there. It's not coming up. school with 1735 02:52:56,399 --> 02:53:02,560 I mean if you got somebody willing to serve and they qualify let them go. It's 1736 02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:07,680 kind of way I feel about it. The branch is you know recommended he's a patron of 1737 02:53:04,720 --> 02:53:12,960 this and they have changed their bylaws so that um they need at least um each 1738 02:53:11,359 --> 02:53:17,200 branch does need at least like one patron. So this guy would meet those 1739 02:53:14,960 --> 02:53:22,640 requirements. Okay. Anybody like to make a motion point this me? Okay. Motion 1740 02:53:20,080 --> 02:53:28,680 been made. All in favor say I. I. All right. All right. Let me get to this 1741 02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:28,680 one. Next one here. 1742 02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:44,319 You all still making motions. All right. We've 1743 02:53:40,680 --> 02:53:50,160 got appointment to safe behavioral health board and um 1744 02:53:47,760 --> 02:53:55,200 Calhoun I think is the one we've got to buy. I think would probably be a very 1745 02:53:52,479 --> 02:54:00,960 good candidate. Absolutely. Anybody like to make that motion? 1746 02:53:58,640 --> 02:54:07,200 Miss Tana made it first. I think she got you by the nose. Be hidden. Yes, ma'am. 1747 02:54:03,439 --> 02:54:10,880 Who was on? It's been so long. It's been I can't even remember. Oh, okay. Okay. 1748 02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:15,760 All right. All in favor of the motion for Miss Calhoun, say I. I. Motion 1749 02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:20,120 carries. All right. Let me get to the next one. 1750 02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:27,560 See, 1751 02:54:30,640 --> 02:54:37,439 what is this on the safe side planning district right here? What? 1752 02:54:35,840 --> 02:54:43,920 I don't have anything on that. Let me look at a couple page. Mr. Chair, uh Mr. 1753 02:54:40,560 --> 02:54:48,840 Simmons's term expires in June. Okay, I got it now. 1754 02:54:46,160 --> 02:54:54,319 Oh, his term expires. Yeah. June of 25. So, we need somebody 1755 02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:58,880 else on that, right? He's eligible. He's eligible for reappoint. Okay. And he's 1756 02:54:56,960 --> 02:55:04,479 the citizen at large member of that board. So, that's Claus. Will you want 1757 02:55:00,960 --> 02:55:11,319 to make that motion? M. Okay. All in favor of the motion say I. I. The motion 1758 02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:16,800 carries. I'll entertain a motion to u approve the consent calendar. 1759 02:55:14,800 --> 02:55:23,319 So move, Mr. Chairman. All in favor of the motion say I. I. I. Motion carries. 1760 02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:28,640 Okay. Board me mouse. Misspense. You want to go? I 1761 02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:37,560 can. Um I just had couple of thank yous. uh recognize a couple of different 1762 02:55:35,319 --> 02:55:44,640 organizations. Um we attended the Meckllinburgg fire 1763 02:55:40,960 --> 02:55:51,200 chief's uh invite um with with a great meeting. Uh great dinner. Um very 1764 02:55:48,040 --> 02:55:57,120 informative. Um gave us a lot of insight I think on where the cost of equipment 1765 02:55:53,600 --> 02:56:01,680 and what whatnot has gone to. U which I thought was very important as we move 1766 02:55:58,720 --> 02:56:06,000 forward. uh considering different pieces of equipment like we've already had to 1767 02:56:03,479 --> 02:56:09,680 consider ambulances and things of that nature. Uh we really do need to 1768 02:56:08,160 --> 02:56:17,439 understand uh what the cost of things are u today 1769 02:56:14,319 --> 02:56:23,520 and how they continue to increase. And I thought that was uh a very good um 1770 02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:29,600 presentation that uh the fire chiefs made and and I I greatly appreciate the 1771 02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:35,359 invite. uh greatly appreciate them uh putting on that u presentation. Um I 1772 02:56:33,439 --> 02:56:39,439 call it that because they had the equipment laid out and much of the 1773 02:56:37,359 --> 02:56:45,359 equipment had price tags attached to it so you could see exactly what that 1774 02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:48,720 individual piece of equipment costs. Um so greatly appreciate them doing that 1775 02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:54,640 and I would encourage them to do that for the public. I think uh it would be 1776 02:56:51,439 --> 02:57:00,960 uh very informative for the public. Also want to thank the uh Mechanburg County 1777 02:56:56,960 --> 02:57:05,920 uh school board. Uh same thing. We we uh had a meeting and a dinner with them. Uh 1778 02:57:03,439 --> 02:57:11,760 had a chance to uh to visit the Clarksville Elementary School. Uh again, 1779 02:57:08,960 --> 02:57:18,319 very informative. They did a great job of u hosting us and showing us around 1780 02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:24,160 and explaining things and um looking forward to seeing that school uh up and 1781 02:57:21,399 --> 02:57:30,960 operating. Nice facility. That's all. Okay. Miss London Ditto. 1782 02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:37,600 Plus the play at the high school was last week, last Friday night evening and 1783 02:57:34,240 --> 02:57:41,840 Saturday at two. The play Charlotte Brown is a good person and it was 1784 02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:49,120 excellent. They did an excellent job. We did a very excellent job. Okay. You 1785 02:57:44,560 --> 02:57:53,680 should have seen it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, first I 1786 02:57:51,680 --> 02:57:56,960 want to thank this board and employees for everybody's thoughts and prayers 1787 02:57:55,200 --> 02:58:03,160 when my mother passed away a few weeks ago. It was greatly appreciated. Um, as 1788 02:58:01,520 --> 02:58:08,000 far as the budget goes, thank you to Alex and Judy and all 1789 02:58:06,479 --> 02:58:13,200 of the staff for all of their hard work on that. I know it's been a multi-month 1790 02:58:10,319 --> 02:58:18,160 process, but uh I think it's definitely going to show our commitment to all our 1791 02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:25,120 employees that, you know, we we're standing with them. And um on the school 1792 02:58:22,720 --> 02:58:29,279 board side, thank y'all for the invite. Clarkville Elementary is a very 1793 02:58:26,560 --> 02:58:33,600 beautiful building. Looks very nice. Uh and again, the fire department put on a 1794 02:58:31,040 --> 02:58:38,720 really nice educational uh thing the other day. Um one of the 1795 02:58:36,800 --> 02:58:43,279 things I went to a couple HOA meetings around the lake because of course that's 1796 02:58:40,160 --> 02:58:47,800 where the the new uh convenience center is being built. And uh one of the 1797 02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:54,240 questions that I got asked there was what about small amounts of 1798 02:58:51,120 --> 02:58:57,680 construction material and I think from the landfield committee side I think 1799 02:58:56,000 --> 02:59:03,120 it's something that we may need to look at because you know some of them had the 1800 02:59:00,399 --> 02:59:06,479 questions of okay if I tear my toilet out can I take my toilet or do I have to 1801 02:59:05,200 --> 02:59:10,880 take it to board you know stuff like that and I think Judy and I talked about 1802 02:59:08,319 --> 02:59:16,880 it the other night too. I think um Alex and him had talked about this summer 1803 02:59:12,399 --> 02:59:21,359 having an intern work on like a a county newsletter type of thing for the year 1804 02:59:18,880 --> 02:59:24,560 and possibly if we mail that out maybe putting some more information in there 1805 02:59:22,720 --> 02:59:28,720 about the convenience centers and stuff like that and times what we can take 1806 02:59:26,640 --> 02:59:34,720 there what we can't and just stuff like that. Um the other thing as far as the 1807 02:59:32,880 --> 02:59:41,200 uh solar project that we dealt with today, um I would say I think one thing 1808 02:59:37,760 --> 02:59:48,479 we heard out of it was Chase City's need for some type of support. Um and I think 1809 02:59:45,439 --> 02:59:54,399 in speaking with Mr. Godchock that the three projects that we currently have, 1810 02:59:50,319 --> 02:59:58,680 we get funding from them. Um, I don't remember the amount off the top of my 1811 02:59:55,680 --> 03:00:03,920 head, but um, I do think that Chase City, from everything we've 1812 03:00:01,760 --> 03:00:08,960 heard and everything else, these solar farms kind of surround Chase City. I 1813 03:00:06,399 --> 03:00:13,960 think if we do have a means from the projects that are currently in 1814 03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:18,960 production that we could take the three representatives 1815 03:00:16,640 --> 03:00:22,240 that are from Chase City and have y'all talk to Alex, see what the amount is, 1816 03:00:20,880 --> 03:00:26,399 maybe come back to the board and say, "Hey, we would like to use that money to 1817 03:00:24,720 --> 03:00:31,520 try to help Chase City." I just think Chase City needs something. Um, I mean, 1818 03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:34,560 I know from like they said riding through there, there a lot of 1819 03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:39,520 storefronts and stuff like that and every town is facing 1820 03:00:36,960 --> 03:00:44,640 um aging infrastructure and everything else. But I think if um since we don't I 1821 03:00:43,279 --> 03:00:47,680 don't think we're going to move forward with any more projects. We're going to 1822 03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:53,840 stay where we at. I think it would be a good uh use of that money to at least 1823 03:00:50,800 --> 03:00:58,240 benefit those citizens in that area uh for what we have approved 1824 03:00:55,880 --> 03:01:03,359 anyway. And that's all I got, M. All right. Thank you, Mr. Mike. Well, that 1825 03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:07,200 feeding off what Tom said, can you come up with that amount of money that we get 1826 03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:12,160 per year off of those three projects? Yes, we do have the uh revenues that we 1827 03:01:10,160 --> 03:01:17,120 get from those projects, they are not significant. I mean, they're more than a 1828 03:01:14,319 --> 03:01:20,800 homeowner, of course, but they are not large because we did not have the 1829 03:01:19,200 --> 03:01:25,279 sighting agreements in place at the time. So, we have no upfront capital 1830 03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:30,960 payments from them. nor were we allowed to impose uh the revenue sharing amount 1831 03:01:28,160 --> 03:01:37,760 on it, the $1,400 per megawatt that is now allowed by law. So, um we pretty 1832 03:01:34,640 --> 03:01:41,760 much only get the real estate uh revenue off of it. Um we don't even get 1833 03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:48,160 machinery and tools tax rate because of the magnitude of the projects. The code 1834 03:01:44,240 --> 03:01:51,760 of Virginia has a um special provision in there that if you're over a certain 1835 03:01:49,680 --> 03:01:56,000 amount of megawws, you're taxed at the real estate rate and not the machinery 1836 03:01:53,279 --> 03:02:02,399 and tools rate. So, we get that 36 cents per hundred on um the improvements on 1837 03:02:00,000 --> 03:02:06,080 the land as well, but it's only the real estate tax rate. So, there is a revenue 1838 03:02:04,319 --> 03:02:12,479 that comes in from it. It's part of our overall um revenue picture. Um and we 1839 03:02:10,560 --> 03:02:19,040 could certainly um designate those funds to support 1840 03:02:16,080 --> 03:02:25,760 other activities. Um but it's not going to be um 1841 03:02:21,560 --> 03:02:31,040 significantly lifealtering for economic uh changes in that community. Now, do 1842 03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:37,279 they do they get any of the money from the the 92 project or Microsoft is right 1843 03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:41,680 there? Will they don't get No. Chase City is a partner. Well, the Chase City 1844 03:02:40,000 --> 03:02:49,439 IDA is a partner as well as the Clarksville EDA in the Lakeside Commerce 1845 03:02:45,760 --> 03:02:55,040 Park development um next to Okanichi. And so they will get a share of the 1846 03:02:52,880 --> 03:02:59,520 proceeds from that development. So there is a dedicated revenue source related to 1847 03:02:57,600 --> 03:03:04,399 data center development that will funnel back into Chase City. Um that site is 1848 03:03:02,000 --> 03:03:09,920 not currently at the point of having active building. um right now, but at 1849 03:03:08,160 --> 03:03:14,640 some point in the near future it will and they will start generating some um 1850 03:03:12,560 --> 03:03:18,160 direct revenue based on that. But the ones that are immediately in the 1851 03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:23,120 vicinity of Chase City, no, those were not in the town limits. Um they were in 1852 03:03:20,319 --> 03:03:29,920 the county and there was no partnership um that was provided by the town towards 1853 03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:36,080 its development. Now they are um given the water and the um well not the water 1854 03:03:32,880 --> 03:03:41,120 the the wastewater um services and they will get some plant upgrades 1855 03:03:38,439 --> 03:03:45,680 accordingly. Um so there is a net benefit to the town aside from being 1856 03:03:42,800 --> 03:03:50,479 just a customer um as a result of that particular development being located 1857 03:03:47,840 --> 03:03:55,200 where it is situated. So when they get built and all, is it possible we could 1858 03:03:52,319 --> 03:03:58,640 look at what that one facility will they break it down where that we could see 1859 03:03:56,960 --> 03:04:05,120 what that one facility is generating moneywise and maybe look at sharing that 1860 03:04:02,640 --> 03:04:10,319 with them in a a certain amount or something. Um that's a possibility. Um, 1861 03:04:08,080 --> 03:04:14,960 there's also the possibility that you could retain that revenue and direct it 1862 03:04:12,479 --> 03:04:18,880 on your own accord for projects that you deem to be beneficial in that area 1863 03:04:16,960 --> 03:04:24,720 rather than passing it through to another party, right? Because you know 1864 03:04:22,319 --> 03:04:29,120 the the mud or everything that Chase it is dealing with that not not so much the 1865 03:04:26,880 --> 03:04:34,240 county and everything and all and all. So you brought that 1866 03:04:32,399 --> 03:04:38,640 and I'm I'm sorry I missed that clause on elementary meal and tour. Um I hope 1867 03:04:36,479 --> 03:04:41,880 we will have another one. I'll come if you don't have a meal but if you do have 1868 03:04:40,080 --> 03:04:47,840 another one I'll come to that but uh and do that and uh yeah the 1869 03:04:45,279 --> 03:04:52,000 the the fire department what they did in here um at board and that that that was 1870 03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:57,920 great real eye opening. Again I think the public needs to see some of that and 1871 03:04:54,319 --> 03:05:02,720 all too and do that. Well we um of course we 1872 03:04:59,200 --> 03:05:07,439 did the seven bridges today. We analyst is coming back again to we'll have to 1873 03:05:05,840 --> 03:05:11,359 hear that. Where are we at with the like the Finnywood? Have they provided 1874 03:05:09,680 --> 03:05:14,479 anything or going forward? Because I know we talked about they got a certain 1875 03:05:12,880 --> 03:05:19,120 amount of days or something to do something and have we heard anything 1876 03:05:15,840 --> 03:05:24,960 from them? They ha we have heard from them. Um they did previously agree to 1877 03:05:21,920 --> 03:05:31,680 extend uh the period of time in which we have to hear uh and make a decision on 1878 03:05:28,640 --> 03:05:36,399 their project. They have not submitted um a revised sighting agreement and they 1879 03:05:34,560 --> 03:05:40,160 have not given us an indication that they wish for their hearing to be 1880 03:05:38,080 --> 03:05:43,760 scheduled at this point in time. So how much longer do we wait because I think 1881 03:05:41,680 --> 03:05:48,800 we got some things in place of moving the cap down. 1882 03:05:45,760 --> 03:05:52,560 You know we voted on that. So, how long do we wait for them to come? September 1883 03:05:50,720 --> 03:05:58,319 24th. Mhm. I made that motion to vote to to 1884 03:05:55,680 --> 03:06:03,680 cap it at where it's at. Yeah. Once once these go through. Yeah. So, the period 1885 03:06:00,800 --> 03:06:08,080 of time in which they have agreed to is um in the late summer. So we we will 1886 03:06:06,160 --> 03:06:15,920 have to they will either have to indicate to us affirmatively that they 1887 03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:23,040 um wish to have that hearing or else um that period of time is going to elapse. 1888 03:06:17,920 --> 03:06:28,000 Okay. So in September. Mhm. Okay. So by September by September it 1889 03:06:25,680 --> 03:06:33,359 will by September there will be one way or the other. Okay. That's all I got. 1890 03:06:31,279 --> 03:06:37,359 I'm sorry Mr. Fargo got overlooked again on his road, but I mean we want to kind 1891 03:06:35,359 --> 03:06:42,279 of keep that going. It's a lot of fun. You I I guess he's just trying to 1892 03:06:39,279 --> 03:06:48,399 preserve the rule integrity of your own 60 1893 03:06:45,000 --> 03:06:51,680 year 60. Well, you know those are silver 1894 03:06:51,800 --> 03:06:58,399 it thank you. I don't have a lot. Um just glad to see you know about the 1895 03:06:57,120 --> 03:07:03,520 budget. Thank y'all for all y'all's work. All, you know, one one of this 1896 03:07:01,760 --> 03:07:07,200 size that we're all in agreeance on most things says a lot about our board and 1897 03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:11,200 the county. We got sort of same vision going forward and um that's a good 1898 03:07:09,680 --> 03:07:14,680 thing. It could certainly be another way. So, we should all be thankful for 1899 03:07:12,840 --> 03:07:18,560 that. And um you know, I'm glad to see we can step 1900 03:07:16,960 --> 03:07:22,880 up, you know, helping out and paving some of these roads. You know, I mean, 1901 03:07:20,160 --> 03:07:25,840 it the 60-year plan, as you just said, I mean, it seems like it just takes 1902 03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:29,040 forever. And for us to have the ability to expedite all this, I mean, people 1903 03:07:27,520 --> 03:07:32,240 need to recognize that, you know, that's a part of some of the growing pains with 1904 03:07:31,120 --> 03:07:36,080 the industry in this county, but that would not happen. That was just a small 1905 03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:38,640 example or an investment in all employees, which is a good investment, 1906 03:07:37,439 --> 03:07:44,240 but I'm just saying people really need to recognize that. Um, and you know, 1907 03:07:42,720 --> 03:07:47,200 going back to Chase City, I think we should I don't know the correct route, 1908 03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:50,720 but we should try to help in any way we can. It all seems like they're all 1909 03:07:48,800 --> 03:07:55,040 basically due to infrastructure. that's where they're all focused, you know, and 1910 03:07:52,479 --> 03:07:59,920 I understand that, you know, but, you know, we really need to do what we can 1911 03:07:56,720 --> 03:08:03,760 to support them and and I hope that people in that area don't take it 1912 03:08:01,760 --> 03:08:07,840 personally the votes that we did today for the solar. You know, we're not 1913 03:08:05,760 --> 03:08:11,279 trying to hurt them, not support them in any way. It's not about that at all. You 1914 03:08:09,920 --> 03:08:15,040 know, I I personally feel like it get voted down for other reasons, but I just 1915 03:08:13,359 --> 03:08:20,880 hope that that residents will realize that. So, that's all I 1916 03:08:19,120 --> 03:08:25,120 The two Elementary is very nice. The building 1917 03:08:23,279 --> 03:08:31,040 and the campus um fire department. The meal was 1918 03:08:27,800 --> 03:08:36,960 delicious and um display of equipment shows exactly what is needed and what 1919 03:08:34,319 --> 03:08:43,680 improvements have been made. Thank you to Alex and Juny for your work on the 1920 03:08:40,439 --> 03:08:49,439 budget and a great big thank you for Alex for his leadership. 1921 03:08:46,200 --> 03:08:52,439 Um the investment is in you is well worth 1922 03:08:59,359 --> 03:09:06,720 I mean I mean yeah everything everybody said spot on. I couldn't agree more. And 1923 03:09:04,160 --> 03:09:10,080 I just want to do I just wanted to also go ahead and apologize for not being 1924 03:09:08,479 --> 03:09:15,640 able to come to the elementary school. I was trying to get off work as as much as 1925 03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:21,439 I could, but the boss wouldn't let me off so that I might get fired, so I 1926 03:09:18,720 --> 03:09:26,399 didn't get fired from my job. But, uh, like I say, I I I drive by it often and 1927 03:09:25,120 --> 03:09:30,960 I know they're making wonderful progress. The facility from the outside 1928 03:09:28,800 --> 03:09:37,040 looks beautiful from my, you know, from my perspective. Um, but other than that, 1929 03:09:34,479 --> 03:09:42,840 everybody be safe, right? I'm the only standing between us 1930 03:09:39,840 --> 03:09:49,319 at lunch. So I promise you I brief let Miss 1931 03:09:45,840 --> 03:09:55,319 Oh yeah, I forgot about you over I started like this right here and 1932 03:09:51,760 --> 03:10:00,200 I forget I skip over him right hand man over I had the right name for he been 1933 03:09:58,160 --> 03:10:05,439 writing over there for 30 minutes take my time up I had the right 1934 03:10:02,880 --> 03:10:08,560 I had the right hand over I'm telling you when I get in a hurry 1935 03:10:06,720 --> 03:10:13,439 man I'm in a hurry he's thinking about his food. I really get things done. 1936 03:10:10,640 --> 03:10:17,200 Yeah, it's raining. You know, I I really was appreciative. I was at a funeral one 1937 03:10:15,359 --> 03:10:22,240 day and someone walked to me and said, "Well, we interested in some property in 1938 03:10:19,120 --> 03:10:27,120 Palm Springs and I didn't want to worry him and and chase him off." So, I called 1939 03:10:24,479 --> 03:10:30,720 him a couple of times and and so I he got my phone number and he's supposed to 1940 03:10:28,880 --> 03:10:35,920 call me back to put a convenience center over there. Uh, and I haven't heard from 1941 03:10:33,120 --> 03:10:39,960 him since Saturday, and I'm trying not to dial his number, but I'm, you know, 1942 03:10:38,800 --> 03:10:44,720 kind of fidgety. So, I do want to try to for 1943 03:10:42,880 --> 03:10:49,600 Wayne and us to go over and take a look at it so that we can try to acquire it 1944 03:10:46,479 --> 03:10:54,000 while he's while he's has the intention um for the budget. Thank you, Alex, and 1945 03:10:52,399 --> 03:10:58,319 Miss Judy and so forth for doing the budget and whoever else is affiliated 1946 03:10:55,760 --> 03:11:03,439 associated with that. I do appreciate I do appreciate that. Uh, Mr. Bailey came 1947 03:11:01,040 --> 03:11:09,200 and sat last Saturday and did a CPR class for us from the EMS. Miss David De 1948 03:11:06,160 --> 03:11:13,680 set him up and Mr. Justin was also aware of that and I think that's his name, Mr. 1949 03:11:11,200 --> 03:11:19,040 Bailey. Is that correct? Okay, Mr. M. And so he did a CPR class and it was a 1950 03:11:16,880 --> 03:11:25,760 wonderful thing that he taught. Now I would advise uh if you need a CPA CPR 1951 03:11:22,960 --> 03:11:30,800 class taught to get with Mr. Justin or Miss David to have one set up. They are 1952 03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:34,160 very informative and is something that I believe every organization needs to be 1953 03:11:32,479 --> 03:11:39,359 aware of because you never know when you will need that time for it to to um to 1954 03:11:36,960 --> 03:11:44,640 accelerate on your experience of EMS. And 1955 03:11:40,279 --> 03:11:50,960 also that's another concern is that um I I think the reason why that we do what 1956 03:11:47,920 --> 03:11:57,439 we do here as far as solar is because of but the lack of trust from the public. 1957 03:11:54,080 --> 03:12:02,720 Um the public right now they say this, they say that and everybody makes 1958 03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:08,399 promises until the actuality come in and then that's when the promises are really 1959 03:12:04,960 --> 03:12:15,680 really being revealed. And thus far the last three entities has not revealed the 1960 03:12:12,319 --> 03:12:20,560 positivity that they proclaimed. And so someone that come in whole is trying 1961 03:12:18,960 --> 03:12:24,240 that public don't trust right now because they've been bit three times. So 1962 03:12:22,560 --> 03:12:29,040 you can't tell me that the dog going to bite and get it bit three times. So and 1963 03:12:26,880 --> 03:12:33,840 this is f where I think what we stand at right now and and and it's it's harmful 1964 03:12:31,439 --> 03:12:37,520 for Chase said it do need something to help them. Uh and that was one of the 1965 03:12:35,680 --> 03:12:41,920 reason why I believe the first time we approved it because they said this is 1966 03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:46,080 going to happen. Uh and it it affected some but it didn't do a whole lot of 1967 03:12:43,439 --> 03:12:50,560 change because nothing last over a period of time. And also the elementary 1968 03:12:48,399 --> 03:12:53,520 school is a wonderful school and we thank you for having us there. And the 1969 03:12:52,000 --> 03:12:57,000 real reason why you had dinner there because you were hoping Mr. Brinker 1970 03:12:54,800 --> 03:13:01,760 would come and he would. So uh and next time just invite 1971 03:13:00,160 --> 03:13:08,240 us to school was because he either going to come or he's not. Thank you. Very 1972 03:13:05,439 --> 03:13:12,240 good. I I completely agree with everything everybody else has said. 1973 03:13:10,560 --> 03:13:17,080 Thank y'all on working on the budget. You always do a wonderful job. do a 1974 03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:23,600 great job and the detail in it is superb. Um, I would like to follow up 1975 03:13:20,479 --> 03:13:28,960 what Tom said about uh Chay City. I think something needs to be done. Mifel, 1976 03:13:26,160 --> 03:13:33,359 I know you have the the lion cha of the district there, but I think Mr. Brankley 1977 03:13:30,720 --> 03:13:37,840 and I on iota edges of he on the west and I'm on the east. So, if we could, 1978 03:13:36,239 --> 03:13:42,640 Alex, maybe try to put something together, maybe you can come up with 1979 03:13:39,439 --> 03:13:48,800 something to recommend and we can maybe meet briefly before our next meeting and 1980 03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:53,920 kind of outline some things that uh could be done to help them. You know, we 1981 03:13:51,040 --> 03:13:58,000 thrive and the county is thriving right now and and we need to take everybody 1982 03:13:56,080 --> 03:14:03,760 with us. AB: Absolutely. You know, absolutely. Just quick question. Uh you 1983 03:14:01,760 --> 03:14:10,000 mentioned Chase City. So, is is there no additional uh uh industrial property out 1984 03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:16,479 there? Right. Because Microsoft took up what we had. Correct. 1985 03:14:12,080 --> 03:14:24,399 There is a very small site that is in the north side of Chase City. Um there 1986 03:14:20,319 --> 03:14:31,040 is a warehouse that is in not great shape that is located there. Um which we 1987 03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:36,880 do not own and has suffered some violations. Um, so it is possible to 1988 03:14:34,720 --> 03:14:42,399 cobble together a very very small site up there, but there is not going to be 1989 03:14:38,960 --> 03:14:48,160 the potential presently for a very large site, especially if you don't want to 1990 03:14:44,960 --> 03:14:53,200 bound this the town's growth potential. And that's part of the issues that have 1991 03:14:50,319 --> 03:14:59,120 arisen with um one of the solar facilities being cited over there is it 1992 03:14:55,760 --> 03:15:04,720 took off potential areas for the town to grow. Um so building immediately on the 1993 03:15:02,399 --> 03:15:09,760 line isn't always a great thing because you cut off any residential 1994 03:15:07,160 --> 03:15:15,040 potential. Um so you could get a small site up there but uh you wouldn't get a 1995 03:15:12,319 --> 03:15:19,279 a large scale industrial site because the of the ones immed like you said the 1996 03:15:17,279 --> 03:15:23,120 ones immediately around it have been taken for that purpose. Just thought 1997 03:15:21,439 --> 03:15:26,640 there was another option. Okay. All right. But if we can do that maybe talk 1998 03:15:25,120 --> 03:15:31,200 briefly before our next meeting that'd be that'd be great. All right. Anybody 1999 03:15:29,439 --> 03:15:34,840 have anything else? We'll stand a journ.