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We'll begin, and this is to conduct the fiscal 2020 budget meeting process or hearing process.

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Today we will begin. This is June 8th, 2019. We're going to be talking about discussing the budget with the fire department,

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the Department of Public Works, which will be engineering, highway, cemetery, parks, forestry and water and sewer,

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as well as the police department, traffic commission and parking commission.

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We will have additional budget meetings on Tuesday night, June 11th, starting at 5.30 and Thursday night, June 13th, starting at 5.30 as well.

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So at this point, I'm going to turn it over to Mayor Burke and make a statement regarding the budget.

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Thank you, President Falco and councillors.

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I believe all of you have gotten a letter that addresses the highlights of the budget 2020 budget.

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As you can see, it totaled $182,247,000.

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But I just wanted to make everyone aware that Shift in Accounting, our finance director,

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Lisa Nguyen, has mandated that both the community preservation appropriation as well as the

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2% pegs, so that's the city gets 3%, that's always been in our miscellaneous receipts.

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This is the other two, and that this be included in the budget process.

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So the budget is inflated this year to a degree because we have both the $1.4 million

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community preservation money as well as about $463,000,

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which is the paid money that really flows through us to do our government,

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education, and public access channels.

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So it leads to a net budget of approximately 180.

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If you backed out those two accounts that are in here this year,

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it's about a 3.1% increase from last year.

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And a big chunk, 4.5, is for the school department.

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So, there are a lot of fixed costs that are out of our control, such as health insurance

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and pension costs.

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They tally up to about $1.5 million additional in this budget, as well as the trash contract

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is about $400,000 and $200,000 additional from our MWRA assessment.

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This budget does reflect the recently finalized negotiations with the Fire Union, so that's

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impact of about 860,000, and that really does reflect a few years of increases to their salaries.

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So you're seeing it all in one year because of the two years that last.

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We have fully engaged our civilian dispatchers.

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You may have seen they graduated yesterday, so we're ready to go live with our dispatchers.

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I know Chief Buckley will explain the process in greater detail as well as Chief Gilberty.

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But our dispatchers are going to be married by the current bodies that are in the Civilian Dispatch Center.

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So they will not be on their own for several months.

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They will be monitored and shadowed for the next few months until the next assignment come up.

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So this will be adding about eight police officers to our compliments because they will no longer be in 9-1-1 as well as four firefighters.

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So that's a nice increase to the operations of the city.

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We have included a $30,000 increase to the Medford-Ox Council that was requested by this body.

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We also have put in a position in the building department for the facilities manager.

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As you and all of us have stated, we have new buildings coming online,

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as well as our older ones that probably need more attention.

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But it's really important to have someone dedicated to managing the contracts that we have in place,

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the maintenance contracts, as well as the warranties that will come with the new building.

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So we anticipate posting this job, obviously, once approved, once the budget approves.

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And then we'll start the hiring process.

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So we're hopeful that it'll take two to three months to get that process underway.

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And then we will have a facilities manager, and that is under the building department.

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Let's see. We have included a half full-time equivalent grant right of position.

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We have put in one additional full-time person in the register of voters office

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so that it alleviates some of the part-time work that happens there

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and a production coordinator in our peg channel.

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So another half position that will be in the peg channel,

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as well as the school budget I mentioned earlier,

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for over 4% increase, it's $2.6 million.

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So, we all know, we've all been following the cherry sheet saga from the state house.

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And most of it is due to the education funding.

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And under all three budget options that were on the table, we were seeing a cost to the city.

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So, because of our charter schools.

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We had about 50 extra kids that went out to the charter schools this past year.

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And it's a dramatic increase, it's about $15,000 a child that goes,

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the money that goes right out with them.

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So we saw our huge deficit, we continued to fight, we're fighting for education reform,

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that the, all the foundation budget recommendations are put into place quicker rather than slower,

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because some want to do it over seven years, others want to do it over three and five years.

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So obviously the faster that they put these recommendations into place,

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We can see some benefits, particularly for our ELs and our special needs and

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our first-time learners that speak other languages that are coming into our district.

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So we're not a minority majority yet, we're probably about a 40% minority.

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Some of our communities around us are vastly higher than us, but

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we continue to educate over 60 different languages in our schools.

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And I know when you get to meet with the superintendent,

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She can fill you in on all the details over there, but we continue to fight.

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So please continue.

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This is a critical week with the budget consensus that are meeting.

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Rep Donato has been an advocate, but it takes all of us to really push and push and push.

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So we're optimistic.

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We're running with the house one budget, which was the best numbers that we got.

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So that's what's included in this budget.

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So, thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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have departments that are eager to get started.

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Mr. President, I just have one question.

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Councilor Marks.

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Madam Chair, how are we separating the PIG access money

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now, if it was all good enough to stay here?

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We're reflecting the entire 5% coming in

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for miscellaneous receipts.

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But then 2% is actually a budget sheet for you in there.

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So 2% is going right out into the PIG access.

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But that's in a separate account now?

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It's going to be tagged separately, a separate program.

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And you actually have a budget that's for the 2%.

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So you're approving the physical budget for that division.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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At this point here, we will start with our first department.

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It should be the electrified department.

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Welcome to Chief Gilbertian, Mrs. Gordon.

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My name's that.

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Chief Gilbertian.

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I should be one to begin by.

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That's a lot of it.

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That's funny.

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Good.

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You want to talk about some of the highlights or some of the changes in the budget?

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Then we can kind of go through the detail.

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Okay, we began fiscal 2019 with a complement of 100 and 10 members.

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We had two retirements this year, mandatory and an accidental disability retirement.

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We had an active duty death, as you all know, by the Pina.

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and we had one resignation back in April.

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We have currently have on back on the books.

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We've had nine new firefighters.

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They are working.

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We have one more going to an Academy July 8th.

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So at the end of fiscal 19,

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a compliment will be 115 total.

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We budgeted for 124 last year.

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124, yes, as

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we are this year, again.

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So we currently have 8, 8, 8, yeah, not counting the gentleman that's going on July 8th.

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How many are in the academy?

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Five me.

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How many are in the academy now?

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None.

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They've all graduated, had two graduate from Boston on Thursday, and this one additional one will be going on July 8th.

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So, just to make it clear, why didn't we fill in the form?

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Well, we were filling in, however, by the time you get through a whole group of people

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the higher you have the retirement. We never got up to filling all of them. In fact, this

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class that I had, this one individual going to originally, isn't until January, but I'm

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going to withdraw that application and he's going to a Boston Academy that's going to

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all Metro Fire firefighters.

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Boston has worked with all of us in Metro Fire

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to host an academy just to Metro Fire community,

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simply because it takes so long

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to get them out into the academy.

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So, you get stowed, you get sprinkled,

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and then open up another one down the bridge water.

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But the waiting list is just crazy.

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So this is our first one that we're doing,

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starting from IA and hopefully if we do another one,

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we'll be able to get them into that academy.

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So how many positions are you putting in for this year?

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We will be looking to fill eight more.

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You anticipate filling all eight?

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I would hope so.

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Yes.

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But it takes time.

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And I'm going to probably have a couple of mandatories in that time, I think.

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That's all I can think of really, a mandatory, maybe two.

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So what's a full compliment according to the Chief?

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524, according to me.

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No, no, that we should have.

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124, you feel you're fully staffed?

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Oh yeah, yes, yeah.

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Okay.

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I have asked for several increases

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in some of my expense accounts.

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I think they total about $60,000.

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And I've received all those increases that I've asked for.

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Other than the salaries, those are the only increases.

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I mean, but the percentage raises increases all of the salary accounts.

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So those increases have been incorporated, I believe.

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So the specific increases here are $25,000,

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to the motor services, constant increase in cost of motor vehicle parts and labor charges,

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$10,000 for PAs and maintenance, communications user fee for staffing and roster generation,

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$2,000 for fire prevention and training to purchase innovative training tool, new training

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tool.

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The $1,000 for office supplies increase to constant office supplies, $15,000 for firefighter

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in rescue supplies, increasing cost of supplies and equipment for members, personal protective equipment, $5,000 for clothing, turnout gear, work clothing, and anticipation of filling vacancies, $2,500 for increasing cost to purchase radio equipment.

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All those increases have been there

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in the budget.

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12-1-18, so that would expire what, April?

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No, that will expire November 30th of 2020.

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2020, okay, thank you very much.

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And in terms of the motor service pool,

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I know there's some concerns relative to the maintenance

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on the fire engines and the lack of a mechanic over there

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of the fire department.

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We do have a mechanic that's dedicated to us.

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His concerns have been addressed.

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He's a DPW employee, but he's dedicated to us.

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He's doing a fantastic job.

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Who made that big?

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I'm sorry?

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Who made that big?

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That is Brendan Saludo.

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I think that's how you say his name.

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Saluda.

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Saluda.

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Saluda.

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Saluda.

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Saluda.

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Saluda.

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You say potato.

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You are.

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I say potato.

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Thank you.

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We have Carlos Cartoli.

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Thank you.

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Carlos President.

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Chief, thanks for being here.

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The question is that I think the, have we figured out the issues with our communication

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devices?

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Is that, I know we had the issues while I was watching talking.

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As far as, I have a grant in for, I believe it's 36 grant reports.

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I just checked the other day.

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There is no comment through FEMA, so no news is good news.

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I haven't got an idea of John Leather.

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But the reception, what the towel is, is like,

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We haven't been working on that with the police when the new building comes to play.

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Okay, so they're still waiting for that?

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Yeah.

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And then the last thing, the big question that we've hearing is that the latter truck,

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is that something we're going to look at for capital plan?

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I have begun actually this, we just had probably our last meeting and getting ready to put together

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the contract to purchase one ladder truck at least, but I haven't given up to secure getting two trucks.

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Alright, so just for people's minds and needs, we have two ladder trucks in our community.

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That's what we need and we need, that's functioning.

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Do we need more? Is a third one on size two sufficient in our size community?

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Well, if I don't have the opportunity to get two, this one will go to Salem Street.

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It'll be pretty similar to that address down there, and I will utilize the latter two as a reserve.

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Okay, so right now our reserve piece is the one that we use from Boston. Well, we haven't

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used one since. We haven't used one since. Okay, but that's if there was an emergency

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safety. If we've had ladders going and out of service for eight or so, and what we've

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done is put another injured into service, but if we're going to have a lot of truck

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down for a couple of weeks, three weeks, I'm going to go out and borrow a truck, yes.

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All right, thank you.

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Yeah.

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Councilor Max?

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So just following up on that, Chief, we've always had two plus a reserve left, right?

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That's correct, yeah.

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So the hope is that the second one that is going to be, will be, end up being the reserve.

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You're going to get a new one.

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I'm going to get a new one.

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The one that's coming off will be the reserve.

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A 2010, yes.

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That'll be the reserve.

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That's correct.

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And that's the one currently right now that-

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Right, but that's been not functioning correctly.

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Which one doesn't start up every so often?

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It's the other one that's not starting up every so often and

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given us a tough time? No?

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You might be talking about some of the issues we've had with ladder one.

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One of the trucks have been told that sporadically it doesn't start.

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That's been rectified. That was a recent?

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Okay, and my other question, Chief, as you know, this council did site visits to all the stations.

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We put out a long, long-distance list of recommendations well over a year ago.

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And just recently, we came forward with some, what I thought was perfect news that many of the issues that we addressed as issues that needed to be looked at,

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we're going to be looked at. That was a couple of months back. Can you give us

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an update on the progress of that? Sure. Right now, with the help of John

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Babusso in the building department, I've had contractors come out. We want to

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replace all the windows and all the stations. I know that Salem Street,

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Riverside Avenue, and Engine 6 up on Ames Street all need new windows at

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quarters. I'm not sure of the extent of self-method or engine two, but whatever

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needs to be replaced we're going to replace them. I'm doing the bathrooms at

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headquarters. I'm going to prepare the showers in the firefighters bathroom and

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the officers bathroom and all the petitions and all of the bathrooms

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in addition to the one on the main floor are all going to be replaced.

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Do we have any, just because I know the windows were mentioned a couple of months back, do we have any time of when this is going to be done?

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I'm trying to get it done yesterday, actually. We have an opportunity to get it done and I'm trying to get it done as soon as possible but, you know, I'm at the liberty of the contract to put them in.

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So you have a commitment for funding already?

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Yes.

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And that's through a capital project or is that through the budget?

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Well, my understanding is with the $500,000 being appropriated this fiscal year, I do have a little bit of money left that I try to set aside to start this work through this budget.

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And anything that needs to be addressed, I'm going to address through the next fiscal year.

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So when you look to the $500,000, where is that, is it in the budget?

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No, it's not in the budget.

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It's outside of the budget?

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Outside of the budget.

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Do you know where that money's coming from?

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I do not.

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Do we have an answer where that money's coming from?

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I would say it's part of the capital plan for the previous 19-20, 19-22.

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I believe that is correct.

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We have received a capital plan spreadsheet back.

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Right.

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That was a draft plan, right?

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Yes, I think that was a draft plan.

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So maybe as part of the community report, Mr. Clerk,

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if we can get a copy of whatever plan that's out there

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for a capital plan.

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Chief, now are we looking at all the other buildings?

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I know you mentioned the headquarters.

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Oh.

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Can you give us an itemized, or can you briefly tell us

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what's going on?

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We'll run off the top of my hand.

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As you know, we haven't.

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How about the floor on the sale of this?

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That's going to be addressed.

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that's going to be done. The floor on Salem Street, all the windows at Salem

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Street. I'm not sure how much more. Oh, I'm replacing the HVAC system on the

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second floor at Salem Street. I've had two contractors come out now and take a

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look at it. I hope to do that with some of this year's money. The Riverside

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Avenue. They just got a new kitchen also. All new windows. I want to get into that

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station. Last year we replaced their HVAC system.

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Engine 6, all new windows.

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What about the restaurant facilities, the showers? Where? All the stations.

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Well, as far as I'm concerned, every station I've looked at.

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Okay, engine four is going to be addressed. There's some problem with the floor. In one of the bathrooms, that's going to be addressed.

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I'm not aware of any at Salem Street. I was just in there the other day with the contractor and the captain, so I'm not aware of anything wrong in there.

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What about the heights?

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I am not aware of any problems with them, but to remodel them, I haven't looked at that yet.

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Okay so can we get a punch list of what you anticipate on doing and an

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estimated time when we the windows among the impression we were getting for cost

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correct the windows for cost who blows right and how long is that commitment

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And for that forever, if we, if we, no, but for the reason-

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to lose that.

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Okay, so as part of the committee report, Mr. Clerk,

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if we can get just a punch list of what's going to be done

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station by station and when the completion date is.

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So we're going to at least have an idea of when this-

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Again, the completion date, I can't tell you.

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I mean, do them as fast as I can.

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estimated I hope within the next nine months that's fast that's fast yeah

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wow yeah it is not

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that easy thank you councilors councilor came up thank you

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to respond on council markets comments you have a $10,000 additional in the

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budget repairs and maintenance going forward. Is that extra

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ten thousand going to be enough to keep maintaining the

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building and keep making this?

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On top of what we have yet?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And you have anything future with what you're going to do

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besides the projects that we've asked for?

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Well, I'm going by what my captains have asked for.

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Is there anything that they've asked for that we don't know about?

333
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Is there anything they've asked for that we don't know about?

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Not to mind all of this.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I think we have work to do, but we did do the salings over.

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All the canals have been replaced, correct?

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Engine four.

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And the roof was just finally been lifted.

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Yeah.

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Engine four.

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Salon Street.

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Engine five.

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Yeah.

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Two.

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any further discussions on a new training tower or location while we're still

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looking at the Mystic Avenue location it has moved forward a bit but we do have a

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commitment to have yet the property.

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Do we have a time frame? I do not. I don't.

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Now I don't.

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What's the method of the problem sheet? State. Can it be from the state? Yep.

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We don't have a time

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frame but are we working on a plan for design or budget for that? Well, I think we have a

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committee that has looked at what we'd like to have. We've kind of settled on a design.

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And who's on the committee?

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Myself, President Buckley, Lieutenant Masolino.

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Who's on the freedmen?

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Who?

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Freedmen.

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Deputy Freedmen.

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Loot.

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Loot.

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He may bow.

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This is a handful.

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And with regards to some of the actuals,

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do you know what the actual for the overtime

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was this past year. I will probably spend $1,800,000.

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Is that what we spent last 2018? No, last fiscal year? Last fiscal year we've

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probably spent $1,600,000 a little over.

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We've met $1,600,000 something now.

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We're

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only budgeting for the 1.4. Yeah. So where are you, was that the budgeted

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line out last year? So where you get in the extra $200,000 to $400,000? Out of

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So the

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positions that we're budgeting for, but I'm filling, we're taking money out of

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that to fill the old time out, if needed.

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We didn't have the nine positions that we currently have back at the start of fiscal

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19.

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We didn't get them until they graduated, seven of them graduated March 8th.

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But at this time last year we had 112, more than 112.

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We had 112.

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But this time last year we had 112, 12.

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And at this time this year we had 110 total.

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114.

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Right.

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114.

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We could just make it part of the committee report just to get the actuals.

390
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It will be some by Tuesday or next Friday.

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Break down of all the actuals on the accounts for the budget.

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budget. What was budgeted, what's left in the account? For fiscal year 2019, yes.

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So you want the year to date actuals? Yes. Okay, year to date actuals, uh, compare budget

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to expense best.

395
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Where would that come from? Me? No, that would be fine.

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That would come

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to follow from the training tower.

398
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Yes.

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When you said you got a commitment from the state,

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is it to close that road?

401
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Well, that's still on the table.

402
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Last we've discussed with the private parties

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is that little possible land was an adequate size.

404
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I know how's a training tower without the road being closed.

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So that commitment is really only half-hearted

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if we can't get the road.

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If they're saying, OK, we committed to land.

408
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But if the land's no good to us, then we're still back at step one again.

409
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Right if the land itself is not adequate, but out the road.

410
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Correct, but out the road, there's not another road.

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What?

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Determination made of that road was a step forward that is not a federal, a federal.

413
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Yeah, the federal government has nothing to do with it.

414
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I have nothing to do with it, so it is a state.

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So it can be closed, it can be closed, but still utilized by the DOT only, and that's

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so in essence it could still be there.

417
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So not the new normal traffic wouldn't be able to come from that

418
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That is missing link on to Mr. Gatham.

419
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Just the DOT would be able to exit that property and go on to Mr. Gatham.

420
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So there's been more discussions, not just the parcel land, but also about the road itself?

421
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Oh, yes, yes.

422
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Okay.

423
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When's the last time your committee met through?

424
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The committee hasn't met them quite some time.

425
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The committee hasn't met in a while.

426
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No, they haven't.

427
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Okay.

428
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We know what we want.

429
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So if the state would have turned around to us next week and say, you know what, you have the road, you have the land, how are we going to pay for this?

430
00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:01,600
That's a good question. They made a commitment.

431
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In the mirrors, they're wearing that $900,000, $956,000, don't you think?

432
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It is in the capital plan that will be, I don't know how to name it.

433
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It's a 900 and some $1,000, come in.

434
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Yes, I believe it was.

435
00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:13,220
It's not fine.

436
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You guys will add it to the capital project.

437
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:18,280
And it is, it is mentioned there.

438
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Wait, we also have the capital plan every year now.

439
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Is it still a draft plan or is it a real plan?

440
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It's a very fluidly, it's not just going to be, you know,

441
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It's constantly updated every year, we have no process now.

442
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,020
But after this budget process, the operating budget has changed.

443
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The budget process starts in December.

444
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If we can get a copy of the updated capital plan, that would be great.

445
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I think we already requested that.

446
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Where do we stay?

447
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:55,440
We did provide a copy of the capital plan after all last year.

448
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Have you just seen how full it was?

449
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Yes, every year we...

450
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Training title money may not be in there, if it's not, we'll put it in there.

451
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,160
Yes, but it's still in the global process, it's not like...

452
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That was made two years ago.

453
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Right.

454
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We've been writing.

455
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Right, this is ongoing for a long time now.

456
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:20,120
Maybe the commitment from the administration is new,

457
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but the commitment was made back a couple years ago that the training title would be built by now.

458
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So I just want to make sure we read up the capital plan has changed since March.

459
00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:36,980
Okay, so the copy that we have should be the latest in greatest cotton.

460
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,060
Yeah, so that is the installation.

461
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Okay, so if it doesn't include it will be added.

462
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It will be added.

463
00:30:49,580 --> 00:30:52,100
So it should be updated.

464
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It's in there.

465
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:06,920
It's just regarding the turnout gear and washes and so forth, I know you made some headway with that.

466
00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:11,800
We are focusing now for the dryers and washing machines.

467
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,820
Yes, we have three extractors for the turnout gear alone.

468
00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:19,700
And every station, I think I did that in this fiscal year,

469
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purchased washers and dryers for each station for their class B unit.

470
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So we're at full capacity.

471
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,360
And everyone has two sets of turnout for everybody.

472
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But the ability to clean.

473
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,900
Yes, so we're at full capacity.

474
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Yes, thank you.

475
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That's all right.

476
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Have you implemented a policy of procedure relative to requirements in two?

477
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Have the uniforms cleaned after a smoke fire?

478
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there is one yes but basically we follow manufacturers suggested how to clean them

479
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and when to clean so so if they get a major fire they don't want to call what

480
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we'll call they come back that says they have to go into the washer in the next

481
00:32:00,220 --> 00:32:02,660
amount of time and we're investing this money and we want to make sure they do

482
00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:05,240
I mean, they've got to have some accountability to it.

483
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,060
It doesn't have to be cleaned up after every explosion.

484
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,580
After every explosion at my house.

485
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,280
And if that's the case.

486
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,760
The science is it's walking all the time.

487
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,500
And all these stations where it should be cleaned also.

488
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:13,820
Yeah.

489
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,260
After every explosion at any small condition.

490
00:32:16,580 --> 00:32:16,800
Right.

491
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,560
Any weaponized things should be switched out,

492
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,880
swapped out with the extractive.

493
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:21,540
Is that evident?

494
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,860
It's, it's, I would hope by the way.

495
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,800
The micro does it.

496
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:24,960
Okay.

497
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,260
It's on us.

498
00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:27,060
It's on us.

499
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,720
It's on us.

500
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:28,560
It's on us.

501
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,640
It's on us.

502
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,660
as opposed to the equipment for us, which we greatly appreciate.

503
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,560
It's up to us to use and what we've got in use of it.

504
00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:39,640
And I got to tell you, they do, especially with the Class B uniforms,

505
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,860
I see it all the time, you know, the work that Washington-

506
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:46,120
As long as they get in use, I mean, that's the only way to make the investments here.

507
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,480
I'm sure they'll use it because, fortunately, there's some medicals.

508
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:52,000
I mean, you get a plot of it and other types of things along your record uniform,

509
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,760
which the Chief does, but Washington Drive is in the station.

510
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,500
We can use it there.

511
00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:58,080
Oh, we can't put it like that, so it's okay.

512
00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:14,680
I know that there was some issues with the HVAC system over at Main Street where the unit,

513
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,900
we've been trying to fix the unit for temperature, one side gets 90 and the other side gets – if

514
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:25,820
we've gotten to a resolution with that, is it something we can look into?

515
00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:27,700
I don't know. That system is so old.

516
00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:29,480
That's a pneumatic system.

517
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:34,220
I can commit to my office in the summertime.

518
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,360
It's like a sauna bath.

519
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,060
Commit in the wintertime. That's cool.

520
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:43,560
So I may have missed some self-method mainstream.

521
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,420
Self-method. I'm sorry.

522
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,820
I know when we visited, they said there was...

523
00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:51,120
The building doesn't regulate well.

524
00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:52,040
It doesn't regulate well.

525
00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:53,380
There's a high ceiling there.

526
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520
So have we looked at that?

527
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,100
I know that we're hoping the station, Main Street, gets done very soon, but the one on

528
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:09,960
itself method that the concern was during really hot days,

529
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,300
pots of the areas were nothing.

530
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,060
It's working, I mean the system does work.

531
00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:24,860
Yeah, but no, I know I might but I know that trying to figure out a way to get the unit to work

532
00:34:25,260 --> 00:34:33,640
more efficiently. Yeah, I know we asked maybe to have energy environment to look at it and do an

533
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:33,980
assessment.

534
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:37,960
Because I think that.

535
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:42,780
There is a brand of well I shouldn't say brand of the heating

536
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:50,440
system. It's several years old. That was all replaced. And when we did the rehab that finished

537
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,720
up in 2015, it was a whole new big commission system put in.

538
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,720
All right. And all the events have been cleaned, right? We've talked about that last year.

539
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Every station, every event.

540
00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:04,860
Perfect. Thank you.

541
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,760
Talks all night.

542
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,500
This is more of the administration. The capital plan costs for $1.5 million for designing

543
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,980
construction study for new fire headquarters. The administration has indicated that this

544
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:20,580
paper would probably come before the council, before the close of the fiscal year. We have

545
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:25,720
about three weeks until the close of the fiscal year. When can we anticipate seeing this paper?

546
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:48,240
I just want to be on the… Can you give me a name and address for the record?

547
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:51,140
Thank you.

548
00:35:51,380 --> 00:35:52,500
On the ladder trucks.

549
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:58,100
For the last two weeks we've been down to one working area of the ladder truck in the

550
00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:58,260
city.

551
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,620
The mechanical issues on the truck, cap and stand truck, so those were fixed and rectified.

552
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,000
It was a structural damage to the ladder one in an accident and it has not been rectified,

553
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,080
so that aerial has been placed out of service.

554
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,080
The truck itself is still being used, but the aerial portion of the truck is out

555
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,420
of service until that goes off and gets certified.

556
00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:21,960
by a specialist that can say that that tricycle is useless.

557
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,020
Which is happening Tuesday.

558
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:27,720
They're quite possibly going to come back and say that.

559
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,280
But that renders the truck useless, right?

560
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,180
It renders the ear of a portion of the truck.

561
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,940
Which still has ground ladders on the back.

562
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,460
That's the truck that we can use in rescue situations

563
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:39,740
just to hide the situation.

564
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,780
It's extremely overwhelming.

565
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,920
It's going on Tuesday, they're coming up to, coming up in a second.

566
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:52,460
The truck that's 20 years old, it's beat, it's seen a lot of, it's seen a lot of, that's not it.

567
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:54,680
Is that the truck you intend to take out of service if you get the new one?

568
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,340
Hi, me.

569
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,780
Is that the truck you intend to take out of service if you get the new one?

570
00:36:57,980 --> 00:36:58,340
No.

571
00:36:58,620 --> 00:36:58,940
No, no.

572
00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:00,520
What are you talking about?

573
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,140
We would need two loud trusses, we'd need a spare, ideally we'd need a spare.

574
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Two fun light pieces.

575
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,180
I just said that's 20 years old, it's been in and out of service.

576
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,440
We've got trucks break down, I think that's just how it is.

577
00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:15,080
So, is there any, what's the plan for us?

578
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Is it a bucket truck or an aerial?

579
00:37:16,660 --> 00:37:18,800
The current one is a street area.

580
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:20,600
Okay, what's the timeframe for that?

581
00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:23,300
Once you sign the contract,

582
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,070
I would vote between nine and nine months, 10 months.

583
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:30,370
So we're talking about a year before we get in the truck.

584
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:30,850
Could be.

585
00:37:31,390 --> 00:37:33,690
Is there any interim fix that we can do?

586
00:37:33,850 --> 00:37:35,870
So, I mean, I know we use Boston trucks all the time.

587
00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:37,710
That's the only option I have for you.

588
00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:40,990
There's no other cities in town that we can borrow a truck from.

589
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:43,790
We got that ladder we used to twice.

590
00:37:43,950 --> 00:37:45,050
There's two fires that we had.

591
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:46,790
So luckily we didn't have it.

592
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:49,170
So, wait.

593
00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:51,630
I'm honest, we didn't have a truck that's not planned.

594
00:37:51,830 --> 00:37:52,670
Can you read the truck?

595
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:58,890
I used to be the guy that always used to come to myself in Boston.

596
00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:02,130
I'm all then ready.

597
00:38:02,330 --> 00:38:04,150
All of the surrounding communities.

598
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:07,870
But I lent it to Malden one time, and they blew the engine.

599
00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:11,870
They paid for it to fix it, so I stopped lending.

600
00:38:13,610 --> 00:38:15,130
Can we rent from somebody?

601
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:17,350
Can we rent from a community?

602
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:23,570
No, there's no charge to borrow a truck, but you can't borrow a truck for a year.

603
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,940
Custom night.

604
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:29,560
Has there been any discussion or any talk?

605
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200
This is really getting away from the budget, and it's more about public policy issues,

606
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:39,080
But in terms of spare pieces of equipment and regional partnerships, like we have mutual aid agreements with certain communities.

607
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:47,240
Do we have purchasing abilities to go with other communities and sit down and say, hey listen, you need two leather trucks, we need two bucket trucks,

608
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,840
we need them as spares, why don't we get them and we'll buy them together.

609
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,260
And then we can realize that the regionalization stuff hasn't been-

610
00:38:55,260 --> 00:39:01,680
I have done regional purchases with Winchester one year, back in 2010.

611
00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:06,180
And I did it with Revia and Maldon after that.

612
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:14,660
But no, we don't have any common purchase rentals.

613
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:18,280
Does it drag the cost down when you do these regional purchases?

614
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:19,260
Yes, yes, it does.

615
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:21,020
I mean, what's the last thing that's

616
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:23,680
required to be brought from a practicing collaborator?

617
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,320
Because it's a national collaborator,

618
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,660
so you have to, and leave it as some custom

619
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:31,180
practice, so it's really, whatever you want,

620
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,060
all the bills and rituals that you want,

621
00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:35,500
that's especially manufactured for you.

622
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,900
Thank you.

623
00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:41,810
A few issues, I have a few brief points.

624
00:39:41,950 --> 00:39:43,690
Going back to the Boston Academy, Chief,

625
00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:46,670
does the Boston Academy provide EMT training?

626
00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:47,430
Yes.

627
00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:49,550
For the Boston, I suppose, yeah.

628
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:53,390
Okay, so the gentleman that's going out there will be the anti-train when he comes back?

629
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:57,590
No, because it's a Metro fire academy. It's not Boston.

630
00:39:58,010 --> 00:40:02,130
They're going to follow the ten-week curriculum that you would get at Stoke.

631
00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:04,450
I thought there was a lot more than that.

632
00:40:05,130 --> 00:40:05,810
Boston's the same.

633
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:06,530
Boston?

634
00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:07,150
Yeah.

635
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:09,430
It's the same sentiment. The gentleman out of Boston.

636
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:12,150
But it's a Metro fire only.

637
00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:13,590
So this is a different type of...

638
00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:15,150
They're going to run it.

639
00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:17,470
In fact, there's a cost to it, by the way.

640
00:40:17,470 --> 00:40:24,470
the cost of sending this person where stow is free is a $4,000 cost for the individual to go.

641
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:27,490
Does the series from that cost do you make the individual pay?

642
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:33,890
Probably going to... we pay. We pay.

643
00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:39,430
I know that the police is different, but we pay.

644
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:45,210
The individuals that have access to benefits, GI bill, benefits and stuff like that,

645
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:46,730
they have the opportunity to use those benefits.

646
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:48,790
I don't know. I really don't.

647
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:54,990
Getting back to the Boston and Lowe-ing the truck.

648
00:40:55,730 --> 00:41:03,410
I've talked with Commissioner Finch several times on maybe even purchasing a Atlanta truck from them.

649
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:09,110
But each time I talk to him, he says he'd look into it and he doesn't know the inventory.

650
00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:11,830
He doesn't want to give up a good truck.

651
00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:19,490
But I don't want the headaches either, they don't have pre-piped waterways, which isn't

652
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:25,730
really too much of a big deal, but you know, you're looking at trucks in the early 2000s

653
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:28,630
that may be available, maybe, I don't know.

654
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:41,640
We borrowed a 2006, I think it was, 2003, 2006, it's not going to sell that, and we've

655
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,440
several conversations about it. As far as fire along, what is the plan for the civilians that just

656
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,520
graduated from the county? Are they going to sit in those seats anytime soon? No, not at all.

657
00:41:53,740 --> 00:42:03,840
I think I had a long discussion yesterday with Chief Buckley and next week they're going to start

658
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:09,620
with the police only. I think Lieutenant Cololusso has them for four or five days.

659
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:17,220
the following week I'm going to take them and Deputy Corona's going to do some things for us.

660
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:27,260
Then we're going to try to devise a rotation schedule to have maybe two on the fire, two on the

661
00:42:27,260 --> 00:42:33,160
police for the day shift and the night shift not the overnight shift and we're going to rotate

662
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:38,440
those we're going to be observing but we're going to be setting up I think how many computers

663
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:47,640
chief 9, 9 laptops and have them do the CAD system or the geocode. All of the training.

664
00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:54,920
And in between all of that, there will be some observation periods of the 901 and then some hands-on training.

665
00:42:55,220 --> 00:43:00,680
They have to pass certain state certifications and have these courses to be able to access the things that they see.

666
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,320
Yeah, they haven't had that yet.

667
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:08,140
So they'll get certified and all that, and then they'll be working on a, like a field training type program.

668
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,180
We're going to maintain staff and police and fire up while they're out there sort of doing their job and training.

669
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:21,940
It's the most extensive training that you just got shown that is going to see in this entire state that it'll be approximately 18 weeks of hands-on observation.

670
00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:23,880
That's an approximation, but.

671
00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:30,660
It's fluid. I mean, it can change as it goes along, but they're not going to get cut loose until a lot of fall.

672
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:32,380
How many have been hired?

673
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:33,440
We have 11.

674
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,140
Okay, so there's a police supervisor that will be in charge of the police, is that correct?

675
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:48,100
There's always a commanding officer who's in charge of the police station during his shift in the communications department.

676
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:50,540
Will there be a fire supervisor there?

677
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:52,760
That has to be a concern.

678
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:58,560
And as far as I'm concerned, that's the need, that's not a want, that's not window addressing,

679
00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:00,260
that's an absolute need.

680
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:03,960
Would you agree, Chief?

681
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:04,920
I would agree.

682
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,540
As far as the radio system, we briefly touched on that.

683
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480
We said there's going to be new radio system.

684
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,080
Radio system is very complicated.

685
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,460
It's only as strong as its weakest length.

686
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:20,240
The radio system is updated.

687
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,640
We're going to repeat this.

688
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:22,460
We have a lot of infrastructure.

689
00:44:23,180 --> 00:44:31,180
is there a plan for a new radio's complete system, not just portable, the repeaters, whatever the case may be.

690
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480
I believe there is. With the new police station.

691
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:37,480
With the new police station. How about a wide area network?

692
00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:40,940
The United States, you know, the few years ago.

693
00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:42,880
You mean five rockets?

694
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Five of them would be nice.

695
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,460
Yeah, yeah. I had brought that up, I think, at one of our department head meetings.

696
00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:58,240
And for those that may not be aware, we currently use the broadcast system, which is a public system.

697
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,780
We want to maintain it. We currently pay them. All the citizens around us have their own dedicated private water area network.

698
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:15,680
So I think we like to move in that direction. So we have some continuity of emergency services.

699
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,500
So we're planning on that as well as that. I'm on for that. I'm on for that.

700
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,100
I'm on for it too, but I'd like to see a commitment, some money, some plan on that.

701
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,180
That's up to the administration, I can't do it.

702
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:32,780
We can advocate for that, is that?

703
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,020
Do you all agree about also choosing?

704
00:45:35,740 --> 00:45:36,880
To fund your communications?

705
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:37,660
Yes!

706
00:45:38,780 --> 00:45:40,560
You're saying communications isn't going?

707
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:41,620
No.

708
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
You do, but it's two separate, uh, equipment systems.

709
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:45,840
There's definitely a different sense of, uh,

710
00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:46,660
you know, convenience.

711
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,020
Right now we're undergoing a number of steps

712
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:51,760
for different, uh, vendors

713
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,060
for a new police station

714
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:54,540
to look at life cycle,

715
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:57,140
We want to go up on such diversity.

716
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,740
We have an issue of an Agent 6, a law of Medford,

717
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:03,380
so we're going to go on that SDA industrial tower.

718
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,360
But at the same time, we are going out right now

719
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,620
looking for bits of fiber optics to release.

720
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Why are there enough of it?

721
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,460
And a minimum to attach Agent 6 on fiber,

722
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,160
and then look at the full cost of that.

723
00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:17,260
It's all going to compare.

724
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,800
We're still looking at all the costs of the product.

725
00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:21,740
Certainly will be a benefit to us, I believe,

726
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,060
if again fiber optics is tied in there.

727
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:27,960
But in front of me, it's going to be an all-microity system,

728
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,100
but that's all right with the site,

729
00:46:29,260 --> 00:46:31,020
and we have to continue to work on that.

730
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,460
That was real, at least in five years,

731
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,120
it's going to last a long time, couldn't it, brother?

732
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:37,800
Correct, yeah, it's the same thing,

733
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,700
but I'll ban it from here.

734
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:40,980
So we're on the same route, on the same boat.

735
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,500
But the wide area network, you're talking about,

736
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,400
has to do with different, yeah.

737
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,180
That's something different.

738
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,200
That was us getting all wired together,

739
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,920
that we communicate with each other,

740
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,720
without having stations going down the end of the day.

741
00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:56,400
We could communicate with City Hall.

742
00:46:56,540 --> 00:46:57,920
We could communicate with the schools.

743
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,760
Phone bills can go away, all of that.

744
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:03,680
There's so much you can do with fiber optics,

745
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,600
but we just got to get everything wired.

746
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:10,600
I do have a couple of companies that have been referred

747
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,120
to me to take a look at that.

748
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:18,810
But that's what we're trying to talk about.

749
00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:20,770
The radio system is a little bit different.

750
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:25,830
Under the current circumstances, you can still operate effectively and meet the public's

751
00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:26,390
opinions in the future.

752
00:47:27,490 --> 00:47:31,250
Based upon the figures in this budget, do you feel is dull that your department can function

753
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:33,610
appropriately, meet the missions that the department so forth?

754
00:47:33,890 --> 00:47:34,090
Yes.

755
00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:39,910
The city of Boston has some radio communication problems in the rust.

756
00:47:40,570 --> 00:47:41,730
Currently they don't have any.

757
00:47:42,330 --> 00:47:46,330
What they did was they went to all businesses and wherever they had a building that they

758
00:47:46,910 --> 00:47:49,930
So it was a good site, what was called a leady table,

759
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:53,950
our repeater in there, so they have zero radio problems

760
00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:54,470
in Boston.

761
00:47:55,090 --> 00:47:55,810
So it can be done.

762
00:47:56,090 --> 00:47:58,290
You're talking about bi-directional amplifiers.

763
00:47:59,290 --> 00:47:59,790
That's what you're talking about.

764
00:47:59,930 --> 00:48:01,410
The leady table, is that the other term?

765
00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:03,270
We have, we have.

766
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:03,290
We have.

767
00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:03,670
Where else?

768
00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:06,310
They're down in Wellington.

769
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:08,030
Every building that gets built.

770
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:11,130
In fact, when I had a meeting two weeks ago last,

771
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:14,670
or two weeks ago at the GLX, they have to look at,

772
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:19,970
Every new building that gets built in this community has to look at that and address that.

773
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:24,250
And I require them to put in a BDA in the building.

774
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:26,850
That's what we're talking about.

775
00:48:26,890 --> 00:48:30,790
There are parts of the city where this regional education is non-existent.

776
00:48:31,330 --> 00:48:31,790
High school.

777
00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:32,930
High school being one of them.

778
00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:33,410
I know that.

779
00:48:33,450 --> 00:48:35,850
I mean, that's almost all of the city.

780
00:48:35,930 --> 00:48:36,410
I know that.

781
00:48:37,110 --> 00:48:43,830
But you will never get a radio system that's 100%, 100%.

782
00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:45,610
Boston claims they do have them.

783
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:46,290
That's bold.

784
00:48:46,690 --> 00:48:46,850
Well.

785
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:48,110
There's no way.

786
00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:51,590
There's not a radio company on Earth that would guarantee you 100% coverage.

787
00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:52,650
There's not one.

788
00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:54,590
95 maybe?

789
00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:56,710
Because there's always going to be dead spots.

790
00:48:56,970 --> 00:48:58,090
Rather than 90 or 80.

791
00:48:58,730 --> 00:49:00,050
No, I think even more than 80.

792
00:49:00,310 --> 00:49:00,910
Come on.

793
00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:01,790
Okay.

794
00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:05,530
Any other budget related questions from the council?

795
00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:10,830
Well, somebody asked for an updated list on the items that we had at the station.

796
00:49:10,830 --> 00:49:13,490
I have an agent who says, my station down.

797
00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:18,710
Everybody saw the conditions that the other stations are.

798
00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:20,710
Here's the list that we have that day.

799
00:49:20,890 --> 00:49:23,090
And a few other things that have been crossed off.

800
00:49:25,290 --> 00:49:26,590
Thank you very much.

801
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:28,790
Do you have any notes on that, Professor Chiu?

802
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:33,950
This station is on one of the few problems you do.

803
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:38,040
Any other questions from the council?

804
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,340
I'm sorry, can you remember that?

805
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:40,580
That was it?

806
00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:44,420
This is where that facilities manager is going to be coming in.

807
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:45,780
Absolutely.

808
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,180
Through the check, can we get the other stations to do the same type of list?

809
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:51,620
Sure.

810
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,560
That's what we were saying.

811
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,020
I'm happy that you have it.

812
00:49:56,020 --> 00:49:57,780
That made my day facilities manager.

813
00:49:58,540 --> 00:49:59,320
Can't wait for him to show up.

814
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,560
You're welcome.

815
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,100
Next year.

816
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:01,740
How long is it?

817
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:02,760
How much time that takes?

818
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,120
Come here.

819
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:05,680
Out of my day every day?

820
00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:07,060
What maintenance?

821
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,240
Yes.

822
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:15,040
Jason people, making phone calls, getting phone calls, trying to get quotes.

823
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:16,100
It's crazy.

824
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,260
By the way, it's more tax-related than you think it is.

825
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:22,100
Oh, we're hoping that with the new facilities manager that...

826
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:22,840
Oh, that's a...

827
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,180
That's a guy.

828
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,300
So, is that your only copy?

829
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,840
Is that your only copy?

830
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:27,980
No, I have not.

831
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,020
Because who's with the clerk?

832
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,220
And you can add it to the committee report.

833
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:30,720
Oh, cool.

834
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,340
That's a point.

835
00:50:32,540 --> 00:50:33,080
That's a guy.

836
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,240
So, on the...

837
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:38,200
So any other questions regarding the fire department budget?

838
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Do I request a full copy of the budget of the capital plan?

839
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:42,680
Who do I request that from?

840
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,820
We can get you a copy of it.

841
00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:49,380
It seems like the capital plan is like a uniform

842
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:51,940
and pretty sure it bothers them how many times we've seen it.

843
00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:53,880
We were right.

844
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:55,480
That's Bigfoot.

845
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,080
You're talking about Bigfoot.

846
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:01,020
We don't have to ask because we don't have to set it up.

847
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,860
Is the training total about $600,000 in it or not?

848
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:04,680
Yes, it is.

849
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,000
Oh, yes.

850
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,360
Bobby, I can get you a copy.

851
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,000
900.

852
00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:08,180
900.

853
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,620
All of the chairs.

854
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,040
What?

855
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:10,760
900.

856
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,040
The budget record is all of the chairs.

857
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,460
Okay.

858
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:14,340
Okay.

859
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,440
So any other questions of the council regarding fire?

860
00:51:19,180 --> 00:51:19,360
Okay.

861
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:24,440
Seeing and airing on, we will move to public works.

862
00:51:24,620 --> 00:51:25,340
Department of Public Works.

863
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,740
They listen to us.

864
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,120
Right, chief.

865
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,920
That doesn't work any way.

866
00:52:00,620 --> 00:52:01,320
Thank you, chief.

867
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Thank you.

868
00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:06,840
Chief, see you all Wednesday.

869
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,460
No, what's Wednesday?

870
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:10,540
Thursday.

871
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:12,360
That's Chinese food night.

872
00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:15,460
I don't know. I thought it was insane, but we'll discuss that later.

873
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,660
But how's the caviaro in this middle one?

874
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:20,520
I don't know what it is, but I'm going to come one of those times.

875
00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:23,040
I'm not going to ask the...

876
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,300
I'm going to ask my wife to get this.

877
00:52:30,740 --> 00:52:32,300
I thought you were Italian, John.

878
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,520
I know,

879
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:38,500
I know.

880
00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:43,080
Jesus Christ, the training budget went up a lot.

881
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,060
Good morning.

882
00:52:48,260 --> 00:52:48,480
Good.

883
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Oh, really?

884
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Yeah.

885
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,740
Yeah, she came to my time the other day.

886
00:52:58,900 --> 00:52:59,160
Oh really?

887
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,920
Yeah, we got to the car and she opened the door, she just went for a quarter zone shots

888
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,900
because of the pain she's had.

889
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:07,860
She's had minimal rhymes.

890
00:53:08,460 --> 00:53:13,600
So I opened the door and she goes, he's a miracle.

891
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:19,700
I couldn't believe she was so happy and then, you know, she saw everybody and everybody

892
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:20,480
kept bringing her food.

893
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,720
So I want to thank everybody for that.

894
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,400
I'm sure it was $5.50, I think it's more of a stroke.

895
00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:25,680
Around the stroke area.

896
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:27,560
She wants to talk to them about it.

897
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,780
Oh, yeah, yeah, I kept hoping it would influence.

898
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,340
At this point, we'll move on to the Department of Public Works.

899
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:41,280
We have Brian Kearns with us, and he will be presenting for the Department of Public Works,

900
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:48,140
which includes engineering, highway, cemetery, parks, forestry, and water and sewer.

901
00:53:49,580 --> 00:53:50,520
Good morning Mr. Chair.

902
00:53:50,740 --> 00:53:51,980
I'm Mr. President, how are you?

903
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,960
Good, how are you today?

904
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:55,760
So members of the council, thank you.

905
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:03,500
Why don't we start off with, why don't we go right down the line?

906
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,280
We'll start off with engineering.

907
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Engineering, okay.

908
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:12,120
Before we start, did everybody, everybody know Tim had given to you as a city engineer?

909
00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:12,920
Hi Tim.

910
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,720
Hi Tim.

911
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,240
Hi Tim.

912
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:17,420
We are asking yes.

913
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Yes.

914
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,260
You're lucky, you're trying to go easy this year.

915
00:54:21,460 --> 00:54:22,620
I was about to ask you quickly.

916
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:31,820
So we're going to go down to West Asia.

917
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:42,640
So engineering, uh, personal services is, um, let's see, uh, fiscal 19 was 37, I'm sorry, 376,741.

918
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,340
fiscal year 2020, 380,721.

919
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,660
Ordinary expenses was 278.60,

920
00:54:52,660 --> 00:54:55,700
2020 request is 49,410.

921
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,220
And so the fiscal year 2019 appropriation was 404,601.

922
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,140
And the fiscal year 2020 request is 430,131.

923
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:16,660
It looks like there are increases in the repair and maintenance account, engineering software

924
00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:25,580
account, engineering materials and supplies account, the engineering conference dues account

925
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,880
in a decrease in engineering books and publications.

926
00:55:30,580 --> 00:55:31,380
Mr. Collins.

927
00:55:33,260 --> 00:55:41,880
Okay, members of the council, the increases actually started on a smaller scale with Chim's

928
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:48,180
predecessor, Cassandra, and it's to quite honestly bring our engineering division into

929
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,700
the 21st century rather than the dark ages, including the pain relief work out of it.

930
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,600
You know, the software for engineering had to be totally upgraded.

931
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:10,920
I mean, floors, furniture, computers, and then really the bottom line was the tools of the trade for engineering had to be upgraded.

932
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:18,120
And, you know, we did start on a smaller scale, you know, under the last fiscal budget.

933
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:36,960
having Tim aboard now, you know, I want to pass the ball over to Tim and run with it or actually complete, you know, what we've started to get the engineering division as small as it is, you know, into, you know, the 21st century.

934
00:56:42,590 --> 00:56:45,990
What kind of rug are we buying in the recursion, 6,000 bucks for a rug?

935
00:56:46,030 --> 00:56:46,810
That was tile, sir.

936
00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:47,410
Tile.

937
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:47,790
Okay.

938
00:56:48,190 --> 00:56:50,790
But we had an asbestos wall below it.

939
00:56:51,070 --> 00:56:52,370
So the tiles all done.

940
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:53,210
Okay.

941
00:56:53,330 --> 00:56:55,210
So they remove the asbestos remediated or are they covered?

942
00:56:55,870 --> 00:56:56,510
Sealed and covered.

943
00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:57,030
Sealed and covered.

944
00:56:58,070 --> 00:56:58,110
Yep.

945
00:56:59,430 --> 00:57:02,830
Half the office work is done in this facility and another half in the weekend.

946
00:57:03,350 --> 00:57:04,690
I just spent in Tim's office before.

947
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:06,370
It's kind of small for a $6,000 rug.

948
00:57:06,910 --> 00:57:14,290
No, but actually the entrance area, George's office, though, is pretty one of the two that will require time on that side, too.

949
00:57:14,670 --> 00:57:16,850
Man, asbestos remediation, which is very expensive, though.

950
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:18,570
I'd like both of them to stand by the list.

951
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:22,350
Councilor Mox.

952
00:57:24,670 --> 00:57:30,350
Last year there was a request, I think it was last year for drafting tables and so forth within the office.

953
00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:35,530
Those items have been purchased, or are they outstanding?

954
00:57:35,530 --> 00:57:37,310
I wasn't aware of drafting tables.

955
00:57:38,330 --> 00:57:39,930
We wouldn't do it in the first job.

956
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:40,590
That's her need list.

957
00:57:41,470 --> 00:57:42,110
Her need list.

958
00:57:43,070 --> 00:57:44,490
When you ask Cassandra what do you need?

959
00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:44,930
Right, right.

960
00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:48,110
She put forward, Cassandra put forward last year.

961
00:57:48,570 --> 00:57:49,970
I think a couple of years in a row, actually,

962
00:57:50,490 --> 00:57:52,030
that there was a need for drafting tables.

963
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:55,310
I have been made aware of the need for drafting tables

964
00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:56,410
and that you without data technology.

965
00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:58,490
So you don't feel a need for that?

966
00:57:58,530 --> 00:57:58,730
No.

967
00:57:58,930 --> 00:58:00,010
It's up to technology.

968
00:58:00,470 --> 00:58:00,590
Michael?

969
00:58:01,350 --> 00:58:01,430
Yeah.

970
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:02,310
Okay.

971
00:58:03,130 --> 00:58:06,090
Okay, apparently a lot of city engineers thought there was a need for it.

972
00:58:06,430 --> 00:58:12,130
They're useful for plan lay down areas, but normal tables can be used.

973
00:58:12,250 --> 00:58:13,510
Graping tables have mechanisms.

974
00:58:14,410 --> 00:58:17,610
So a drafter, who was a professional back in the day,

975
00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:21,930
could have it at the right angle for the $8 that they're working, drawing and sketching.

976
00:58:22,210 --> 00:58:23,570
They're a very particular item.

977
00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:26,530
They were needed in the past.

978
00:58:26,650 --> 00:58:28,590
I just don't see the need for them at the moment.

979
00:58:28,850 --> 00:58:30,110
None of the staff had a plan.

980
00:58:31,410 --> 00:58:38,370
And why don't we stand right now putting all our plans and documentation on electronically

981
00:58:38,370 --> 00:58:39,350
about five?

982
00:58:40,130 --> 00:58:44,550
I'd say just from working with them for the past six months or so, and knowing what we

983
00:58:44,550 --> 00:58:50,630
have for people's plans, it's probably close to 70 to 75 percent to scan in for the records.

984
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:56,830
And probably 90 to 95 percent of the useful records are scanned in.

985
00:58:56,830 --> 00:59:03,890
And there are WPA work plans and there are old record plans from way back that haven't

986
00:59:03,890 --> 00:59:07,930
been scanned in that the Historical Society is interested in, so that would be the next

987
00:59:07,930 --> 00:59:12,010
step is to scan those in and get the Historical Society within the team.

988
00:59:12,570 --> 00:59:13,130
Okay.

989
00:59:14,190 --> 00:59:18,510
And where do we stand with I&I infiltration?

990
00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:24,890
Is your office working with Water and Sula to address some of the concerns we have?

991
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:32,090
Yeah, when I came into it, we were finishing up some projects and we're starting the process

992
00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:37,370
of thinking about the next phase and trying to get the next I&I projects to be done.

993
00:59:38,030 --> 00:59:39,710
So we work with the end of the bar and that's it.

994
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:40,130
Correct.

995
00:59:40,450 --> 00:59:42,610
So what are the next, can you let us in on the next projects?

996
00:59:43,050 --> 00:59:44,630
I don't know what they are right now.

997
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:47,490
I don't know if that's replicated today, but I can get you guys a lesson.

998
00:59:48,310 --> 00:59:48,990
And that's what you should do.

999
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:51,810
I'll differentiate between the lead and the end of that.

1000
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:53,110
Okay.

1001
00:59:53,110 --> 00:59:58,950
And Mr. President, if I could, and I've mentioned this before the council on many occasions regarding

1002
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:59,970
the complete street market.

1003
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:06,520
I know I've reached out to the engineer along with the traffic engineer.

1004
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:13,500
Hing Square was one of the only projects not to be funded, and I know we applied two or three additional times for funding.

1005
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:23,140
And then there was a commitment made by the administration to fund it through Chapter 90 money, some of the pedestrian improvements that are long overdue in Hing Square.

1006
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,280
and I get to get an answer that makes sense and I'm hoping that the city

1007
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:34,380
administration sticks to the commitment that they made that they would use

1008
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,520
chapter 90 money for some of these improvements and I don't know if Tim

1009
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:48,820
can speak to that. Right now the plan for the Hainsbury documents, the plan is that we have, we're going to submit them again in October for state funding.

1010
01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:50,640
I think it's the only project we're submitting.

1011
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,420
Prior to you made a call, we discussed this as well,

1012
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,540
that we submitted for bullfights and tufts before my time.

1013
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,960
We won tufts, and we didn't even win

1014
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,660
hardly half of the money for it.

1015
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:05,500
We got about $153,000, and it's a close to half

1016
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:06,220
of another project.

1017
01:01:06,740 --> 01:01:09,780
So it was nice to get the $153,000 state,

1018
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,580
but it wasn't at all what we needed for that project.

1019
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,200
We are using Chapter 9020 to supplement

1020
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,300
the tufts where it worked.

1021
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,160
So we would take a similar approach with the square unless you were directed to do otherwise.

1022
01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:27,380
So that's the pattern on it.

1023
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:31,780
Right, so if the state grant doesn't come through again, just saying.

1024
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,700
What are the plans?

1025
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:35,940
Did we just keep on submitting it year after year?

1026
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:40,060
We have to address some of our safety concerns that we have.

1027
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:46,300
At that point, the recommendation would be that that source of funding is not reliable for these types of projects.

1028
01:01:46,860 --> 01:01:51,740
And that would be unfortunate because it's the type of projects that are supposed to be funded through that program.

1029
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:59,520
So, like we did in Tufts Square, we'd have to take a look at Chapter 90 and see if that could help fund the project.

1030
01:01:59,980 --> 01:02:00,100
Correct.

1031
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:01,120
Okay.

1032
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,600
Thank you, Mr. President.

1033
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,200
Thank you, Councilor Locke.

1034
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:04,760
Councilor Knight.

1035
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Tim, a couple weeks ago we sent a resolution up to you relative to a complete streets project

1036
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:14,580
that took place in West Method Square in front of Amici's and they did some bump-outs with

1037
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:20,860
the curbs, they did some replacements with some crosswalks and handicap attestable ramps

1038
01:02:20,860 --> 01:02:23,620
and the like, but they've also created a drainage problem.

1039
01:02:24,260 --> 01:02:27,860
So the first two packing spots after Paul Revis,

1040
01:02:30,290 --> 01:02:31,930
they created a load for the spot.

1041
01:02:31,930 --> 01:02:37,970
So all the water between CB scoops and Paul reviers all pulls down in those first two

1042
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:42,670
Pocking spots and doesn't drain out. So when my wife stepped in the puddle two nights ago getting pizza

1043
01:02:42,670 --> 01:02:44,450
She came home and screamed at me for like an hour

1044
01:02:46,370 --> 01:02:48,650
I didn't build it so we're gonna talk

1045
01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:05,810
Councilor Knight, that's going to take care of our entire factory this week.

1046
01:03:06,790 --> 01:03:08,450
Yeah, I'm going to drop in another basin.

1047
01:03:09,370 --> 01:03:12,930
I went out there with the highway forward, we put our heads together.

1048
01:03:14,370 --> 01:03:16,570
It could be even as simple as a one day job.

1049
01:03:16,770 --> 01:03:19,150
We're not talking about a major reconstruction of the area.

1050
01:03:19,850 --> 01:03:23,770
Okay, so I'll cut out an area, drop another basin, and type it, call it a day.

1051
01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:26,610
Just ask the notify the businesses when the construction is going to happen.

1052
01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:29,290
Okay, so we're just going to ask the notify the businesses and

1053
01:03:30,250 --> 01:03:32,830
And I appreciate the response, so.

1054
01:03:33,610 --> 01:03:34,750
Vice President Longo, correct.

1055
01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:35,570
Thank you, President Palco.

1056
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:38,330
Send any update on the Sydney Street?

1057
01:03:39,310 --> 01:03:41,110
Yes, so they did the field work.

1058
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:45,590
Method of hearing the survey, the company did the field work.

1059
01:03:45,710 --> 01:03:49,590
Last week, I want to say, they stake out the city's easement

1060
01:03:49,590 --> 01:03:51,870
every 50 feet in the area of question.

1061
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:55,610
So now we know what Budweiser owns

1062
01:03:55,610 --> 01:04:01,750
and where the city's responsibilities are geographically on the ground.

1063
01:04:02,790 --> 01:04:11,090
So, I believe that DPW has already cleared some of the adjusted processes of data in the states and the ground that they fill on site, so that's where that stands.

1064
01:04:11,950 --> 01:04:13,650
How much was city owned?

1065
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:19,550
Is it enough that our DPW can work on it or is it because that was a large land?

1066
01:04:20,170 --> 01:04:26,950
It's a 50 foot wide swath that the city has access rights with, and it's utility access rights.

1067
01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:35,070
So in other words, we have the right to access our manholes and pipes, whether that be to clean them, things like that.

1068
01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:37,590
And obviously, we need to have the space to do that.

1069
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:39,590
So those are our rights in that area.

1070
01:04:40,270 --> 01:04:42,710
Those are typically utilities and rights. It's an old easement.

1071
01:04:43,850 --> 01:04:48,390
But the property, from what I understand, is owned by Budweiser, the outroups, until

1072
01:04:48,390 --> 01:04:48,710
you write.

1073
01:04:49,790 --> 01:04:53,970
And the next step in this process, from what I understand, we get a paper plan from a

1074
01:04:53,970 --> 01:04:57,070
certain company that shows the geometry on paper.

1075
01:04:59,070 --> 01:05:03,470
And then after that will be a plan to ask Budweiser to clean up the property?

1076
01:05:04,330 --> 01:05:07,230
It's going to, I think that's the next conversation.

1077
01:05:07,490 --> 01:05:08,290
That's the next conversation.

1078
01:05:08,490 --> 01:05:09,490
Who's doing what?

1079
01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:13,510
because the code enforcement officer John Fusso, myself,

1080
01:05:13,930 --> 01:05:17,030
the commissioner and the residents of Guadiria and you guys

1081
01:05:17,030 --> 01:05:21,770
of Guadiria too, and we saw different types of dumping

1082
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:24,690
happening from different parties and different entities.

1083
01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:27,590
And we saw different levels of required maintenance

1084
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:32,130
that is required by the landowner or our access

1085
01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:32,670
to the pipes.

1086
01:05:33,130 --> 01:05:35,170
So that has to be discussed and figured out

1087
01:05:35,170 --> 01:05:36,330
of who's doing what,

1088
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:39,090
this was a thing.

1089
01:05:40,610 --> 01:05:42,650
So we're trying to frame for that meeting

1090
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:44,210
to figure out who's doing what.

1091
01:05:44,550 --> 01:05:47,010
I would imagine that it's going to happen we have,

1092
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:48,950
the survey information we have,

1093
01:05:49,030 --> 01:05:51,950
it's taken out, it's going to happen with them.

1094
01:05:52,990 --> 01:05:54,050
That's who it must be.

1095
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,410
Madam Vice President, once we get the hot coffee

1096
01:05:58,150 --> 01:06:00,990
and just determine actually who owns what,

1097
01:06:00,990 --> 01:06:07,970
Once we really find out what is ours for sure between Tim and myself and

1098
01:06:07,970 --> 01:06:15,930
the other staff between highway, forest and the engineering will come up with a plan of attack, you might say.

1099
01:06:17,050 --> 01:06:19,190
And when will we get that paper copy, you think?

1100
01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:21,170
Okay, where do you want, sure.

1101
01:06:21,490 --> 01:06:23,210
No, no, when will you receive it?

1102
01:06:23,370 --> 01:06:23,470
Yeah.

1103
01:06:24,050 --> 01:06:26,210
I've asked that question because I haven't seen your response yet.

1104
01:06:26,210 --> 01:06:26,630
Yeah, okay.

1105
01:06:26,770 --> 01:06:32,610
If they just feel more comfortable with early, early last year, please.

1106
01:06:32,970 --> 01:06:41,470
Yeah, so part of the delay, Madam Vice President, on getting at this spot, I call Chuck Beniziano.

1107
01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:42,610
Chuck was ready to go.

1108
01:06:43,610 --> 01:06:52,050
He was gaining access and permission from Budweiser for him to access their property to do the service.

1109
01:06:53,170 --> 01:06:58,570
Budweiser now, of course, is owned by a European company and they're not very

1110
01:06:58,570 --> 01:07:04,690
enabling. I'll put it to that. Now, once we determine the plan of attack, well, we'll

1111
01:07:04,690 --> 01:07:09,130
see what happens then, but up to this point, they're not very enabling.

1112
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:16,030
Could we use our clean and immediate ordinance? I may be back visiting the

1113
01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:21,390
council as a whole and say I need the host power. Again, I don't know.

1114
01:07:21,390 --> 01:07:28,050
Like, you know, Chuck had some difficulty getting permission from the layers of bureaucracy within Budweiser.

1115
01:07:29,450 --> 01:07:33,910
Great. And then just the second question I know I emailed you about yesterday.

1116
01:07:34,270 --> 01:07:36,250
Does the government have issues?

1117
01:07:37,810 --> 01:07:40,730
Yeah, I brought the issues to the country to potentially a new economic community.

1118
01:07:41,070 --> 01:07:47,190
If they're still persistent, if that's what your email's about, then I will attend to it personally.

1119
01:07:47,710 --> 01:07:49,530
Hopefully they are being addressed by the contractor.

1120
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:53,270
Did you get a time frame? Did the contract get a time frame?

1121
01:07:53,530 --> 01:07:56,410
I got an email yesterday that has not been taken care of.

1122
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:59,430
Okay, it was supposed to happen immediately, some of the things.

1123
01:07:59,670 --> 01:08:00,550
So it hasn't happened yet.

1124
01:08:00,670 --> 01:08:01,530
You just follow up on that.

1125
01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:01,850
Absolutely.

1126
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:02,750
Thank you.

1127
01:08:03,070 --> 01:08:05,810
The direction I gave and it sounds like it's not going to fall up on us.

1128
01:08:05,950 --> 01:08:06,730
Okay, thank you.

1129
01:08:06,930 --> 01:08:07,010
Yeah.

1130
01:08:07,570 --> 01:08:07,970
Conformite.

1131
01:08:09,150 --> 01:08:15,590
Tim, are there any design and construction plans that are completed relative to constructing

1132
01:08:15,590 --> 01:08:19,810
a parking garage behind callings of the old callings location.

1133
01:08:20,690 --> 01:08:22,250
I haven't been involved in anything.

1134
01:08:22,710 --> 01:08:25,230
You don't know if they have any plans in your office that might be their work.

1135
01:08:25,870 --> 01:08:32,730
I have seen references to studies about the parking garage.

1136
01:08:33,170 --> 01:08:34,110
I don't understand anything.

1137
01:08:34,430 --> 01:08:36,470
Well, I'll take a request for that stuff at a different time.

1138
01:08:36,650 --> 01:08:37,070
All right, thank you.

1139
01:08:37,710 --> 01:08:40,350
Any other questions regarding engineering?

1140
01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:44,430
I'm not sure if it's lonely, so I'm going to talk about that one for a minute.

1141
01:08:46,310 --> 01:08:47,190
Moving on.

1142
01:08:49,490 --> 01:08:50,470
It's blood pressure.

1143
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:53,730
Highway department.

1144
01:08:56,650 --> 01:08:57,150
That's nice.

1145
01:09:00,970 --> 01:09:01,710
That's our caveat.

1146
01:09:03,070 --> 01:09:12,210
I think one of the biggest concerns of UBW and I was watching it, but Maine Collins is a staff member.

1147
01:09:13,250 --> 01:09:16,230
And as I view it, I saw around vacant positions.

1148
01:09:17,310 --> 01:09:20,450
What are we doing to address vacant positions?

1149
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:24,170
All right. Contraction, of course. I have to post it in the train.

1150
01:09:24,830 --> 01:09:25,470
Thank you.

1151
01:09:26,110 --> 01:09:33,050
I don't take it as sorry for any of the jobs, right now I'm working with the chief of staff,

1152
01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:40,310
her staff, okay, to get a natural list of interested people that want to come in for the interview.

1153
01:09:40,790 --> 01:09:42,450
Okay, that may be qualified.

1154
01:09:42,910 --> 01:09:44,710
We have a question with the newspaper.

1155
01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:47,630
Do you have a civil service?

1156
01:09:48,030 --> 01:09:49,730
Civil service, council.

1157
01:10:00,870 --> 01:10:17,890
I'm on the street every day. I don't have hope. I don't have hope because the economy is so good and the trades, they can make a lot more money than here, other than the fact here you've got a little bit of security.

1158
01:10:17,890 --> 01:10:25,290
it. Plus the fact that we require physicals and we have random drug testing. We're all

1159
01:10:25,290 --> 01:10:31,470
even myself. We're all federally licensed. Outside you don't have that except for the

1160
01:10:31,470 --> 01:10:38,570
operators. I read an article in the paper this week about the drug problems that are

1161
01:10:38,570 --> 01:10:43,550
occurring out there. And you know here it's a thank you but no thank you.

1162
01:10:47,190 --> 01:10:47,870
It's not

1163
01:10:47,870 --> 01:10:54,070
I think it's up to the issue we've been wanting for many years and it just doesn't seem to.

1164
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:58,730
I don't see any of you guys making any headway to tyrants and new people.

1165
01:11:00,030 --> 01:11:02,090
I just don't believe there's also a lot of news.

1166
01:11:02,710 --> 01:11:08,810
Yes, the chief of staff made a few, you know, little changes that also now have involved me.

1167
01:11:09,010 --> 01:11:15,250
So I'm in the process to at least attempt on the outside as it is taking place.

1168
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:22,850
But again, like I said, through experience in the last go-around, we looked through the city.

1169
01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:27,030
The city goes through a lot of expense, a high of some.

1170
01:11:27,890 --> 01:11:32,570
Even right down to me interviewing somebody, my hourly wage and whoever else.

1171
01:11:32,610 --> 01:11:36,230
There's a lot going on, physicals and everything else, pre-employment.

1172
01:11:37,330 --> 01:11:40,930
I had one guy start on a Monday, left on a Tuesday.

1173
01:11:44,830 --> 01:11:46,970
And this is what we're going to run up against.

1174
01:11:48,370 --> 01:11:49,950
This is what we're going to run up against.

1175
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:54,490
Anybody who has ever filled out an application has never come in and haunted me.

1176
01:11:55,330 --> 01:11:56,750
Any update, any update.

1177
01:11:57,190 --> 01:11:58,050
They fill them out.

1178
01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:01,430
So I call.

1179
01:12:02,030 --> 01:12:03,090
Nobody bugs me.

1180
01:12:05,330 --> 01:12:07,330
Unfortunately, I just know that it's going to continue.

1181
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:14,370
Are there any applications that have been filled out?

1182
01:12:14,690 --> 01:12:16,230
Can we have them addressed?

1183
01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:19,450
No, that's not the process we're going through now.

1184
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:23,330
Yes, and that's the whole thing about the expiration dates

1185
01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:25,270
and the amount of

1186
01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:29,510
the expiration dates,

1187
01:12:29,670 --> 01:12:32,270
and sometimes we'll include them all because of that.

1188
01:12:32,370 --> 01:12:36,210
The thing is Rick, the positions that I currently have that are available

1189
01:12:36,210 --> 01:12:38,250
are not entry level positions.

1190
01:12:38,250 --> 01:12:44,090
So not the ME01, all right, because of maintenance crafts in position, heavy equipment operating.

1191
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:50,050
These are the positions that you have to have the trade walking in the door and the adequate licenses.

1192
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:54,210
Councilman.

1193
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:59,090
In circumstances like that, though, wouldn't it make sense for us to hire people that don't have the appropriate licenses,

1194
01:12:59,270 --> 01:13:01,630
people that are ME01s, people that are maintenance craftsmen,

1195
01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:05,650
maybe we can get a group of people that we can train the way we want to train them

1196
01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:08,630
and then they'll also have career ladder opportunities where they can move up the ranks

1197
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:14,050
as opposed to coming in the DPW as an MEO2, staying as an MEO2 for your entire career, waiting for somebody to retire.

1198
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:19,070
Maybe we can start bringing in a new crop of people down here as MEO1s and we can start training them internally

1199
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:22,170
for the positions that we forecast are going to become vacant.

1200
01:13:23,190 --> 01:13:27,190
You know, Brian, I've said time and time again, I'm looking at my notes going back to 2017.

1201
01:13:27,790 --> 01:13:33,470
In the budget discussions in 2017, I identified contracted labor services that the city takes money

1202
01:13:33,470 --> 01:13:37,130
and contracts out to contracted labor services, ground master, so on and so forth.

1203
01:13:37,130 --> 01:13:40,490
So I guess my question is, if we looked at this budget right here for the highway department

1204
01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:44,690
and we look at the money that we actually spend on private contractors, can we go over

1205
01:13:44,690 --> 01:13:48,030
those line items and see what type of work that these private contractors are performing,

1206
01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:53,310
what services we're actually going and putting out to bid and telling people outside

1207
01:13:53,310 --> 01:13:55,570
of our DPW what works they're performing.

1208
01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:59,330
You know, when we look at, I mean, I understand private contractors for Snow and Ice.

1209
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:59,950
We need that.

1210
01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:05,830
Do we need private contractors for $500,000 for the replacement of sidewalks, or should

1211
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:08,730
We take that $500,000 and reinvest that into our personnel

1212
01:14:08,730 --> 01:14:11,570
so that we can begin to build up the ranks of IDPW.

1213
01:14:11,770 --> 01:14:14,270
In an ideal world, you're absolutely right.

1214
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:21,550
But for the hourly wage, the city would have to pay from Mason.

1215
01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:24,310
And again, you're not going to teach it.

1216
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:26,810
You want to do sideways, you have to get the ground right.

1217
01:14:26,970 --> 01:14:27,770
You're not going to teach it.

1218
01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:28,550
You're going to be amazing.

1219
01:14:30,010 --> 01:14:31,470
Again, I'm not going to get them.

1220
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:32,950
They're all spoken for.

1221
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:37,350
A real good mason is already out there making poopful money.

1222
01:14:37,790 --> 01:14:40,550
Right. But when are we going to stop the bleeding then?

1223
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:42,570
We're going to wait for the economy to fail.

1224
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:45,390
And then we're going to wait for everybody to say, OK, the economy's failed.

1225
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:46,390
Now everybody comes from effort.

1226
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:53,130
Keep on trying and just hope, OK, that we hit the right common denominator.

1227
01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:58,750
Just like when I first started, for over three years, I had a mechanic vacancy in the garage.

1228
01:14:58,750 --> 01:14:59,330
right?

1229
01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:10,460
Well, you also had a mechanic that was fulfilling an obligation, I believe, to the United States military service, right?

1230
01:15:10,820 --> 01:15:17,240
That was the same. He had retired. The Robert Sullivan had taken his place. But no, this was a regular mechanic.

1231
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:26,520
That actually was working on fire trucks for a dealership. And that mechanic went up there to do a swap for Chief Gilberty.

1232
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:32,040
got talking to him. He says, yeah, I'd be interested in that one, man. He's working

1233
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:38,800
today. That was just a stroke of luck. But that just was vacant for three years, all right,

1234
01:15:38,820 --> 01:15:40,180
because nobody wanted to.

1235
01:15:40,180 --> 01:15:41,280
How many times was it posted?

1236
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,820
All right. Internally?

1237
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,020
Internally, externally, in general. I mean, like what recruitment techniques would take?

1238
01:15:47,420 --> 01:15:54,240
On the application, Adam, there's a small area as far as community employment in your

1239
01:15:54,240 --> 01:16:01,360
back and something jumps out on that resume based on the vacancy that I have.

1240
01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:07,620
I pull it. I make the phone call to see if you're interested. I, with the general

1241
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:11,820
salary, starting salary would be, I mean, I don't get into a sales pitch, all right?

1242
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:16,800
In either yes or no. All right? In some cases, well, I'll get back to it. They

1243
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,620
never get back to it. In some cases, they do it. But then when they come in,

1244
01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:26,220
All right, you know well you said it was this salary, but you say I got union dues

1245
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:28,360
I got this and that you know

1246
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,520
We start off at 980, but that's what I'll take anything up

1247
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:37,300
But then when you start taking everything out this the way like I kind of work you to sell an hundred bucks a week

1248
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:40,560
Oh, whatever it may be. Thank you, but no thank you walk away

1249
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:46,960
So is it safe to say then that the salary structure of DPW and the contract and the the

1250
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,840
What we're paying up people isn't enough. Okay

1251
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,100
For our government it is, all right, and like, no.

1252
01:16:55,180 --> 01:17:00,400
Because other communities, I don't see other communities that have these same problems, you know, to the extent that we have.

1253
01:17:02,060 --> 01:17:09,820
They do to a point, all right, but again, all right, you know, it's also a case of, all right, are they going to open their mouth, all right?

1254
01:17:10,140 --> 01:17:13,060
I mean, I've always been open and frank with you people, all right?

1255
01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:17,820
I come June 21st, okay, be my 43rd year in public service.

1256
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,520
I've seen it, done it, been there, all right?

1257
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,240
And I can go out, okay, I get the same thing.

1258
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,600
All right, no help, no this and everything else.

1259
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,520
Our union contract and our salary structure,

1260
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:31,860
particularly the union contract,

1261
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,600
is probably one of the best around.

1262
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:34,880
I negotiate with you, I know.

1263
01:17:35,020 --> 01:17:36,760
All right, and everything, okay, okay.

1264
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,460
It's one of the best around, all right?

1265
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,320
Today we are a victim of the economy.

1266
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,080
It's as plain and simple as that.

1267
01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:46,040
That's all it is, all right?

1268
01:17:46,460 --> 01:17:48,780
But you can add money to it, all right?

1269
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,540
You may get life, all right?

1270
01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:53,160
I want you to start getting into it.

1271
01:17:53,180 --> 01:17:54,220
I'll go back to what I said.

1272
01:17:54,660 --> 01:17:56,700
Physical and random drug testing.

1273
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,420
It's like, whoa, all right?

1274
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:00,140
And that's-

1275
01:18:00,140 --> 01:18:03,840
So when a contractor comes on a public work job,

1276
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,620
they're not required to, I mean-

1277
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:09,820
Okay, we'll say Newport Construction.

1278
01:18:09,820 --> 01:18:13,600
His operators have to meet the federal guidelines.

1279
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,700
His father is drug testing.

1280
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:17,920
But the boots on the ground?

1281
01:18:19,420 --> 01:18:23,460
A plot of contractors that come out don't have to meet the standard of drug testing?

1282
01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:23,820
No.

1283
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:24,920
They don't have to.

1284
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:29,240
For what we're requiring for years, based on the equipment that they are operating,

1285
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,840
it is not under the CDL and proper.

1286
01:18:32,820 --> 01:18:38,100
We do not contract out class B or A related equipment.

1287
01:18:43,940 --> 01:18:48,020
So in terms of this budget in the highway department, can we go over the contracted services and

1288
01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:49,540
can we talk about what they're paying for, please?

1289
01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:08,460
$157,000 in line item 010422.

1290
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:10,360
Can't see the rest of it.

1291
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:10,860
It's all zeros.

1292
01:19:11,180 --> 01:19:12,900
It looks like 5240.

1293
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,760
We just asked that we go over all the services that are being contracted out.

1294
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:22,600
Oh yeah. Okay.

1295
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:29,720
And I see the first one looks like it's $157,000 up from $81,000 last fiscal year.

1296
01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:30,880
What page are you on?

1297
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:31,640
I'm on $2080.

1298
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,320
$2080.

1299
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,520
That's the sixth line down the street contract.

1300
01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:43,600
So fiscal year 2019 was $81,200 this year.

1301
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:45,840
It's up to $57,000.

1302
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,700
Do you have any, can you provide us with some details?

1303
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:59,120
Okay, well the Aramaic art is for cleaning, the cleaning art of the doormats, the cleaning art of the garage uniforms,

1304
01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:05,320
it's an outside industrial cleaning art that is used.

1305
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:10,960
Highway safety, highway safety art is the striker for the streets.

1306
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,260
Slow down here, where are we looking at highway safety?

1307
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:18,780
to you. So what you have, what I have might be different, but the first street repair

1308
01:20:18,780 --> 01:20:22,160
maintenance is the first line. The second line is Highway Streets Contracted Services.

1309
01:20:22,380 --> 01:20:26,220
Is this going to be, are you saying that these things are in this bucket in the top row?

1310
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:26,740
Yeah.

1311
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,940
So you hadn't said he's talking about right now.

1312
01:20:29,180 --> 01:20:30,260
They're all underneath that line.

1313
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:32,520
They're part of that $157,000.

1314
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:33,080
Yeah.

1315
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:33,280
Okay.

1316
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:33,720
Yeah.

1317
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:38,640
You know, and then, you know, of course, you know, emergencies, emergencies could

1318
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:44,760
be you know I could get you know a very large water or sewer main break that you

1319
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,980
know our own water and sewer may not be capable that you know of handling right

1320
01:20:50,980 --> 01:20:56,160
away need big excavators or whatever I basically are you know the money is you

1321
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,040
know tools in the toolbox in the event but you know as far as the

1322
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,820
privatization is concerned portion the only thing I that would come out of

1323
01:21:04,820 --> 01:21:05,860
that is street sweeping.

1324
01:21:06,340 --> 01:21:10,600
But as a result now, I'm having one brand new

1325
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,140
and one fairly new street sweeper.

1326
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,660
This year we only had to contract out of a street sweeper.

1327
01:21:17,940 --> 01:21:20,580
I think it was maybe like for five or six days

1328
01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:23,380
and that was only because of the size of the room

1329
01:21:24,060 --> 01:21:28,220
that the number of hours that we have in a day,

1330
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:31,840
I needed a third sweeper opposed to just doing two.

1331
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:40,660
But other than that, I did not have a street sweepers from a contractor here for a big sweep at all.

1332
01:21:44,660 --> 01:21:45,680
If I may,

1333
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:52,840
are these things new compared to last year?

1334
01:21:53,420 --> 01:21:59,960
This is a significant increase. What represents an increase over what was in this account last year?

1335
01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:03,700
That sounds like what we need to do to get out.

1336
01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:08,060
It's like an extra $80,000 savings that has to be done.

1337
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:10,200
Like for example, you have to do Salem Street.

1338
01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:15,200
We had our contractor Cassidy come in and do that.

1339
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:18,300
So it's just like really from emergencies to people.

1340
01:22:19,060 --> 01:22:20,620
So it's an emergency payment.

1341
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,840
An active emergency company that might come in

1342
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,140
to talk over the one week.

1343
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:27,860
Exactly. So where was that last year?

1344
01:22:27,860 --> 01:22:37,840
So last year, was this a kind of like probably just needed to be funded with additional money

1345
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,620
because maybe it didn't mean it's...

1346
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:44,380
So probably underfunded in the previous year, so now it's been trying to fund it properly,

1347
01:22:44,860 --> 01:22:49,980
so moving forward, we actually have the amount of money that's in there to service these type of

1348
01:22:49,980 --> 01:22:52,080
emergency fixes and whatnot, if I'm correct.

1349
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:52,700
Does that sound correct?

1350
01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:54,180
So we're sure on the same page.

1351
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:57,320
We generally have one rupture of a major water main break.

1352
01:22:57,860 --> 01:23:00,460
Once it's surveyed, it has to be fixed.

1353
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,940
So that money has to be come out somewhere.

1354
01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:04,520
Okay.

1355
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,300
Generally, a payment contract does that work.

1356
01:23:09,260 --> 01:23:14,840
But the timing, I mean, basically it's a little bit of a reserve to deal with those situations.

1357
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:15,320
Okay.

1358
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,680
In circumstances when there's a water main break,

1359
01:23:19,260 --> 01:23:21,980
we're using highway money to repair the roadway.

1360
01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:26,200
that he's in water rent-a-press money and we couldn't use the water sewer budgets

1361
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:31,500
that were paid the streets wealth and use our rent-a-press funds it also really

1362
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:41,440
be to the extent large-srogan winter all right but that the initial report came

1363
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:47,620
in at night all right there was a lot of things right there's a hole in the

1364
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:56,480
around like this. That's all right. Well, sad problem. All right. The

1365
01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:00,280
street was gone. I mean, you could actually have fit a great on

1366
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,060
bust in the hole. I have to be in the building. He calls you

1367
01:24:04,060 --> 01:24:08,600
Brian, I need to him to say that I need you right now. And I

1368
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,540
went out there and shell shot whole road years of the drain.

1369
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,560
being gone, just washed the whole road away.

1370
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:19,980
A case like that was be on the capabilities

1371
01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:23,680
not of the highway department to do it.

1372
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,740
You had to run the drain line and actually rebuild

1373
01:24:27,090 --> 01:24:30,800
and create a section of street going across.

1374
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,720
And that's what that money is used for,

1375
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,600
is things like that that are beyond us

1376
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,920
because they require the real heavy equipment.

1377
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:44,820
But we have heavy equipment, and I'm talking tri-axles and excavators and things like that.

1378
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,840
And, you know, jobs like that is what we needed for, because it doesn't, that's happened.

1379
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,900
This is just not water. Water is so in drainage that has to be continued.

1380
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,580
Most of the time we hear about water, most of the time it is water.

1381
01:25:00,940 --> 01:25:03,540
But, in that particular case, it's in drainage.

1382
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,760
When the streets are open to get some water, I mean we can use water and depress funds, correct?

1383
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:13,820
to repair the street. Yeah, if it's water related, yes. In this particular case it was

1384
01:25:13,820 --> 01:25:17,740
spawned stondrains. Stondrains. Okay, it was not domestic water, it was not domestic

1385
01:25:17,740 --> 01:25:22,860
storage. It was the stondrains that came in. Well, I gave up on the

1386
01:25:22,860 --> 01:25:27,860
principle and started up as far back as the actual high school. Came down through

1387
01:25:27,860 --> 01:25:31,880
all the neighbors, through the three W's and everything else, and then when

1388
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,360
connected would go down Winthrop Street to the rotary, down Winthrop, into the

1389
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,840
That's how integrated that particular line and what it becomes.

1390
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,860
And that line has been repaired?

1391
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:45,500
Oh yes.

1392
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:46,460
And how much is that cost?

1393
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,100
Okay.

1394
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,220
I don't check.

1395
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,000
Could it cost more than $157,000?

1396
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:52,420
You weren't here at the time.

1397
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:53,300
Okay.

1398
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:59,040
The drainage, the winter streak, and Lawrence.

1399
01:26:00,180 --> 01:26:01,200
What was the question?

1400
01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:01,760
Okay.

1401
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,200
The cost for the actual final cost was?

1402
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,060
Oh, I don't know.

1403
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:05,260
Yeah.

1404
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,640
I'm going to shoot from the hip end. I need to be exact.

1405
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,380
That the project that was suing the person that told us where the underground infrastructure was?

1406
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:16,560
It's like a hundred and forty change came out to me.

1407
01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:19,500
But that was an emergency because the road was gone.

1408
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,740
You know where I'm coming from this one, Brian. I feel as though it's a race to the bottom.

1409
01:26:26,020 --> 01:26:28,880
Because we're not investing in personnel. We're not investing in institutional knowledge.

1410
01:26:28,940 --> 01:26:32,840
Instead, we're investing in people that are chasing a buck. And you said it before the city council.

1411
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,040
when someone gets a government contract, they say,

1412
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,120
oh, government contract, easy street.

1413
01:26:39,220 --> 01:26:41,620
It's, the bid is this, but oh, we had to do this,

1414
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,360
this, these are the extras.

1415
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:44,260
Now it ends up being more expensive than it would have been

1416
01:26:44,260 --> 01:26:46,060
if we invested in personnel and we did it internally.

1417
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,240
And we need to stop the bleed in some time.

1418
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,960
We need to stop the bleedage.

1419
01:26:51,260 --> 01:26:54,420
If it means that we have to take a look at stopping

1420
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:57,100
the train and saying, whoa, what's going on,

1421
01:26:57,180 --> 01:26:58,480
then that maybe is what we need to do.

1422
01:26:59,380 --> 01:27:01,920
So this is something that didn't just pop into my head

1423
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,060
And yesterday I've been talking about this five back as my notes say in 2017, 2016.

1424
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,860
So it's something that raises a lot of concern for me and having worked in the latest sector

1425
01:27:11,860 --> 01:27:16,880
and having worked with public unions, I understand the race to the bottom and I understand what

1426
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:21,920
impact its divestment in our personnel has on the overall scope of the way that we can

1427
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,260
deliver a service to the community.

1428
01:27:23,620 --> 01:27:27,820
So I'm hoping we can address this by increasing the staffing numbers to the level that

1429
01:27:27,820 --> 01:27:28,340
you say you need.

1430
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:30,060
And you say you need another 25.

1431
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:30,480
Wow.

1432
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:37,960
As you said that publicly, how many more people does this budget give you than previous years in terms of boots on the ground DPW workers?

1433
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:45,920
The funding, all right, close four vacancies that I have, all right, that's it.

1434
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:53,400
Okay, so at the end of the day when this budget is full, how many employees are going to be under the umbrella of the mentioned DPW with boots on the ground?

1435
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:55,580
Once the floor is filled.

1436
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:56,760
Once they are filled.

1437
01:27:57,300 --> 01:27:58,640
If they fill...

1438
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,760
And they pay well.

1439
01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:04,920
How many people?

1440
01:28:08,420 --> 01:28:10,140
I need to break down.

1441
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,320
We have a...

1442
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,280
Just this department.

1443
01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:14,420
Just this department.

1444
01:28:14,860 --> 01:28:15,580
I want just highway.

1445
01:28:16,660 --> 01:28:21,500
You take a look at highway if I could grab that.

1446
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:23,580
that has an attendant daily attendance sheet, right?

1447
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,740
I keep emphasizing, there's five, six people

1448
01:28:27,740 --> 01:28:29,800
are on a good date in the highway department.

1449
01:28:30,420 --> 01:28:32,600
If you look at the sheet, it's a long sheet.

1450
01:28:32,900 --> 01:28:33,160
Why?

1451
01:28:33,700 --> 01:28:36,320
Because yes, it is those five or six or seven people, right?

1452
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:39,240
But doesn't it include it in that, all right,

1453
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,120
is the two or three people that are watchmen at night?

1454
01:28:43,980 --> 01:28:45,300
They're no good during the day,

1455
01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:47,080
though with respect to the guys, right?

1456
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,820
Three guys from Forest Street are on it.

1457
01:28:50,820 --> 01:28:55,380
Two guys are in the sign shop or on it, so the sheet is a long sheet.

1458
01:28:55,820 --> 01:29:02,340
The actual guys that are working on the street performing highway functions, averages out, right?

1459
01:29:02,740 --> 01:29:06,400
So, you know, five, six guys on a good day, all right?

1460
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:13,180
Now, I was the only senior supervisor in DPW working yesterday.

1461
01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:14,420
Why?

1462
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:20,240
use it to lose an education time, all right, in well-earned, well-deserved, all

1463
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:25,920
right. Mike was out, Steve was out, Dave Proctor was out. I was the senior

1464
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,040
student, which is perfectly fine. I want them to use their time. It's an easy

1465
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,680
workforce and they're lucky. They get a lot of time to achieve these.

1466
01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:45,400
Okay, we total 49. 49 for the DTW. That's the cemetery. 49,

1467
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,220
I'm going to vote for 25 members from the Metro DPW boots on the Grand Climber.

1468
01:29:50,660 --> 01:29:53,080
Do we not have to do another breakdown by department?

1469
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:55,800
That's one possibility, that's one possibility.

1470
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:56,940
Okay.

1471
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:57,780
Okay.

1472
01:29:57,780 --> 01:29:59,980
The government and vacancies are excluding the vacancies.

1473
01:30:00,370 --> 01:30:16,690
So, 45 plus four vacancies? 49 plus four vacancies? 49 plus four, okay, so there are a number of questions.

1474
01:30:17,150 --> 01:30:26,250
Councilman, are you? I'm consuming way too much of your time on this. I'm hogging the floor so I'll pass it on to somebody else. There are a number of questions that there's a little bit of a queue building up there.

1475
01:30:26,250 --> 01:30:27,590
No, no, no, I rest my case.

1476
01:30:28,050 --> 01:30:30,410
So you said the council remarks at the Council of Calvary,

1477
01:30:30,530 --> 01:30:31,430
or the Council of Scarpella?

1478
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:32,570
Thank you, Council President.

1479
01:30:32,750 --> 01:30:34,450
Thank you, Mr. Karen, for all you do.

1480
01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:38,550
But I'm going to take the opportunity to reiterate,

1481
01:30:41,530 --> 01:30:45,890
basic city services happens, unfortunately,

1482
01:30:46,050 --> 01:30:49,410
fallen in the DBW when it talks about when you hear complaints

1483
01:30:49,410 --> 01:30:50,250
and you talk to people.

1484
01:30:50,490 --> 01:30:53,930
And I understand, believe me, I've

1485
01:30:53,930 --> 01:31:05,370
and using your excuse but the reality that the economy is good and people aren't taking

1486
01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:10,350
jobs with the millennium because they're paying 45 an hour, we can offer 25.

1487
01:31:10,890 --> 01:31:17,250
One of the questions I had last year, and it was a roadblock, was a civil service list.

1488
01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:19,850
We're still following the civil service list.

1489
01:31:20,990 --> 01:31:21,190
Okay.

1490
01:31:23,010 --> 01:31:25,670
I don't, it's not practice with other communities anymore.

1491
01:31:26,290 --> 01:31:27,250
For DPW.

1492
01:31:28,190 --> 01:31:29,650
Why are we still doing that?

1493
01:31:31,150 --> 01:31:34,670
Because from what I've heard, it's a pretty old list.

1494
01:31:34,930 --> 01:31:36,630
I mean, I mean.

1495
01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:37,970
It has various ages.

1496
01:31:38,450 --> 01:31:39,310
It has various years.

1497
01:31:41,190 --> 01:31:42,650
We're a civil service community.

1498
01:31:42,650 --> 01:31:48,730
there is an involvement to get out of the civil service community

1499
01:31:48,730 --> 01:31:54,690
and that would be an agreement with World War II Fire as well as a home meal petition.

1500
01:31:55,210 --> 01:32:00,790
Right, and I didn't see a police in fire, but when, because I've gone to different communities and asked,

1501
01:32:00,990 --> 01:32:05,150
are you having trouble? And I'd be honest with you, Brian, neighbor communities really,

1502
01:32:05,790 --> 01:32:08,870
they're not having as much trouble as we are having here for some reason.

1503
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:12,990
And we need to find out why because, you know, the staffing levels,

1504
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:16,750
Summable, the staffing levels, and Arlington, the staffing levels,

1505
01:32:17,010 --> 01:32:19,770
and Maldon that have talked to different representatives there,

1506
01:32:20,430 --> 01:32:23,010
they're really not that bad because they were getting the workers.

1507
01:32:23,410 --> 01:32:28,750
So when you hear over and over again that the streets in this city is better

1508
01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:33,410
or the parks in this city are better or the water department here is better.

1509
01:32:33,410 --> 01:32:40,250
and you know I'm saying guys you know it's easy for me to defend because when

1510
01:32:40,250 --> 01:32:47,110
we have one person that really truly knows our water system and God forbid if

1511
01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:54,330
we don't if we lose them we're in trouble and that's it so every community

1512
01:32:54,330 --> 01:32:58,210
and I believe I use you as an example but when you talk to different

1513
01:32:58,210 --> 01:33:01,630
communities about that they say you know what George we have that one

1514
01:33:01,630 --> 01:33:06,790
person too. But we're lucky that we have that one person working with three people making

1515
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:14,910
sure that if he goes down, that goes down. Because I think it's a very touchy trait that

1516
01:33:15,490 --> 01:33:21,730
you have that's more valuable than any master's degree or doctor's degree. People don't realize

1517
01:33:21,730 --> 01:33:25,930
that. Because that's what functions as community, our communities. There's got to be something.

1518
01:33:25,930 --> 01:33:32,330
I personally think that this is one of my number one priorities for this budget, is finding

1519
01:33:32,330 --> 01:33:39,830
a way to increase our basic city services, and that means finding a competitive and creative

1520
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:41,410
way for recruitment.

1521
01:33:41,870 --> 01:33:48,290
I mean, listen, I'm not ashamed to say, hey listen, a guy comes by my office from the

1522
01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:51,430
POC's department saying, do you really like this community?

1523
01:33:51,950 --> 01:33:54,370
Because I tell you what, maybe Memphis might be a better community.

1524
01:33:54,370 --> 01:34:03,570
I find myself actually recruiting city employees to try to apply here in Medford for the fact that, you know, it's enticing for them.

1525
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:14,990
But there's got to be, and I just implore us all, that even for the budget to have four more, 53 still is way under.

1526
01:34:15,370 --> 01:34:15,870
Exactly.

1527
01:34:16,350 --> 01:34:21,430
So if that's all we're asking right now, that means we're only shooting four more positions.

1528
01:34:22,390 --> 01:34:28,550
So I think we need to revisit that number and say, listen, we need to find a way to shoot

1529
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:34,890
higher and I'm with Councilor Knight when I think with Desperate, and believe me, there's

1530
01:34:34,890 --> 01:34:40,130
no blame here, I think you're doing more than you should and I blame you for being

1531
01:34:40,130 --> 01:34:42,070
too good actually, that's the problem.

1532
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:47,290
I think we need to get to a point where there's rumors out there that come back

1533
01:34:47,290 --> 01:34:53,650
and I work for municipalities as well, that there might be some kind of state early retirement

1534
01:34:53,650 --> 01:34:58,990
proposal coming out. There's little rumblings. But maybe it isn't. Imagine if that's true

1535
01:34:58,990 --> 01:35:06,030
and we get to add five years to people? We're done. I mean, we lose most of our, most of

1536
01:35:06,030 --> 01:35:10,190
our people. Right. And that's what I'm saying, guys. So I think we're more, this is more

1537
01:35:10,190 --> 01:35:14,270
critical than we think right now. Because if the state does come out, think of the

1538
01:35:14,270 --> 01:35:18,110
people that in that window between five and ten years because they're gonna jump

1539
01:35:18,110 --> 01:35:23,870
oh yeah no and that's that's that's if I had a guess it's probably close of at

1540
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:28,340
least at least 30 percent of our crew right I'm gonna have the opportunity to

1541
01:35:28,340 --> 01:35:32,020
You know, it's all your institutional knowledge.

1542
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,260
Peter Kerg is the Mike Neston, Steve Tenang,

1543
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,260
taking it right off the top.

1544
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:38,820
What are you shaking yet for?

1545
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:40,560
I've got a long way to go.

1546
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:43,920
So we're not going to be the commissioner?

1547
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:44,520
Yeah.

1548
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:50,480
So if I request through the chair that, you know,

1549
01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:52,880
we really asked, Jennifer,

1550
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,340
you can go back to the drawing board

1551
01:35:56,340 --> 01:35:59,180
and try to figure out what we can do here to really increase

1552
01:35:59,180 --> 01:36:00,260
these numbers and go after it.

1553
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,860
It's not, you know, it's just, it really is.

1554
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,620
It really is, we're gonna get to a dire need

1555
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:10,120
if something does happen.

1556
01:36:10,820 --> 01:36:11,840
You know, the state will do it in a minute,

1557
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:12,480
we all know that.

1558
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,060
I know it's a rumor right now,

1559
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,140
but if that comes to fruition,

1560
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,520
we're gonna be in real trouble.

1561
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,720
We're in trouble now, I think, we're in dire need now.

1562
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,580
But we have to look ahead and stop putting

1563
01:36:22,580 --> 01:36:24,880
the contingency plan in place that if we don't

1564
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,900
start finding a way to recruit employees and grab people.

1565
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:29,500
I mean, it's something simple.

1566
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,580
On course closing, we've had hundreds of thousands of

1567
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:35,440
employees over there, maybe getting a work list that we

1568
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:42,200
can do an active job search or bring people in for some sort

1569
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,720
of day of employment for Metro.

1570
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,920
And listen, believe me, I want more method residents

1571
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:50,580
working in our DPW.

1572
01:36:50,780 --> 01:36:53,600
I think you see there's more invested.

1573
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,120
When they know that this is for their community, they're going to work on it, unfortunately.

1574
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:03,420
But not to say the ones that don't die, but we need to find a way to get some improvement going.

1575
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,380
You know, I bumped into a gentleman the other day who has a CDL.

1576
01:37:06,460 --> 01:37:11,860
He's worked high-level landscaping.

1577
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,180
And he asked me the other day, just, geez, I would love to work for the city.

1578
01:37:16,460 --> 01:37:17,880
And I said, do you have all these licenses?

1579
01:37:18,180 --> 01:37:18,420
He says, yes.

1580
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,040
He said, well, let me look into it.

1581
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:25,520
So it's, I mean, there are people out there. I think we just have to find a way he did.

1582
01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:27,960
Okay. All right. So that and that's the thing.

1583
01:37:28,060 --> 01:37:33,680
We need to find a way to get more people. I mean, that's just one, one counselor that when I talk to people in the street,

1584
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:39,720
I said, you know, go and see the cheaper staff or, you know, go to the mayor's office, fill out with the applications that you need to.

1585
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,880
But I really think we should shoot more for these four positions, right?

1586
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:55,200
So I need a recruitment plan in place, and I want to see an increase in the amount of positions.

1587
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,500
So that's what I'd like to see. Thank you.

1588
01:37:59,160 --> 01:37:59,940
Councilor Larkson.

1589
01:38:00,580 --> 01:38:01,460
Thank you, Mr. President.

1590
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:10,860
If I could, as just part of the report, last year we had actuals on the budgets that was requested from the last few previous years.

1591
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:19,620
And I, as one member of the council, think it's very helpful to have actuals to see where we stand on each line item at the end of any given fiscal year.

1592
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:25,720
So I'm not sure why it was taken out of this particular budget process, but I'd like to see it back in.

1593
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:30,380
Do you want to see year-to-date actuals for like $2,000 next year?

1594
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,820
Correct, correct. And I believe they were in the previous budgets.

1595
01:38:36,340 --> 01:38:43,840
also Brian did you put together a wish list to the mayor's office did you have

1596
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:52,880
your for 20 meeting for personnel in general on personnel I you know I've

1597
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,560
expressed like I've expressed to you I you know my wish list as far as you know

1598
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,760
they need qualities in each department, right?

1599
01:39:00,140 --> 01:39:02,480
From the equipment point of view,

1600
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,620
all right, you know, between the mayor and the council,

1601
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,380
I mean, people have been breaking a lot of the years

1602
01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:10,880
putting us in the 21st century in an equipment point.

1603
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:13,760
Yeah, I still need some, not much this year.

1604
01:39:14,300 --> 01:39:16,800
I haven't got to that discussion, you know, with the mayor.

1605
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,420
So, you know, yes and no, all right.

1606
01:39:19,820 --> 01:39:21,840
So you haven't had that discussion prior

1607
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:23,520
to the budget being submitted to us?

1608
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,980
As far as personnel, I think-

1609
01:39:25,980 --> 01:39:29,100
Any GPW wish list that you had?

1610
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,020
Informally, yes.

1611
01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:34,360
Informally, no, I did not put it in black and white.

1612
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,780
But informally, I told, I mean, desperately need

1613
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:38,620
a background for the highway department.

1614
01:39:39,220 --> 01:39:42,920
I need a couple of things from, like, Nesta, the parks

1615
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,580
department, just in conversation.

1616
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,940
So, Mr. President, I think it would be helpful,

1617
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,300
and maybe, I don't know if it's too late now,

1618
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:59,300
But it would be helpful to see what is being requested of the administration from the different

1619
01:39:59,300 --> 01:40:04,680
department heads and what actually finds its way into the budget and what is, you know,

1620
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,060
something that they're looking into and so forth.

1621
01:40:07,860 --> 01:40:13,820
If we can somehow get that type of level of detail, I think it would be extremely helpful

1622
01:40:14,740 --> 01:40:18,700
because we've been talking about the number of employees in DPW for several years now.

1623
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,400
And I agree for, and that's assuming we, it's funded.

1624
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:27,620
that's assuming that we hire four. There's no guarantee we're going to hire four.

1625
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:34,380
We may at the end of FY20 finish out with no hires, so it's great to say four,

1626
01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:40,120
but that doesn't even account for four. Brian, the catch basins. What are we

1627
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:46,640
putting in for this year's FY20, the cleaning of catch basins? Okay, that's in

1628
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:52,340
water? I'll wait till we get to water. Okay. Is that also the repair catch

1629
01:40:52,340 --> 01:40:58,580
spaces in your budget of this okay that's that's in this too okay and what

1630
01:40:58,580 --> 01:41:06,180
about hot talk there's black talk all right some is highway some is water right

1631
01:41:06,180 --> 01:41:11,020
so so in highway no we always have concerns during certain times of the

1632
01:41:11,020 --> 01:41:18,700
year that we can't get the black talk just is that still an issue well yes and

1633
01:41:18,700 --> 01:41:23,040
No, okay, you're getting it at the whim of,

1634
01:41:23,140 --> 01:41:24,720
we'll say like kind of venting, right?

1635
01:41:25,380 --> 01:41:27,680
That a winter eye, you know, could be 20 degrees,

1636
01:41:27,980 --> 01:41:29,020
I was like, ah, he's not even open,

1637
01:41:29,180 --> 01:41:32,300
I'm not gonna call, you call it E30, he's open, all right?

1638
01:41:33,260 --> 01:41:34,580
Winter time is a hit or miss,

1639
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,180
whether they're open or they're not, all right?

1640
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:38,740
Summer time, of course, of course,

1641
01:41:38,900 --> 01:41:41,420
about the same, they're all open, all right?

1642
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,200
And, you know, this winter eye,

1643
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,640
every opportunity we had, all right,

1644
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,640
that we felt we could do some pain.

1645
01:41:50,140 --> 01:41:52,320
We call, we call seven o'clock in the morning

1646
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,780
to see if the plant is open.

1647
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:55,340
I mean, if that plant's open,

1648
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,080
there's a truck right out the door by 7.30,

1649
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,340
heading up there to pick it up, right?

1650
01:42:00,620 --> 01:42:04,540
So, you know, we are acting aggressively

1651
01:42:04,540 --> 01:42:06,940
12 months a year on targets, right?

1652
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:08,540
The personnel is there.

1653
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:12,800
The daily personnel, minimum two guys every day

1654
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,400
are committed to follow us with the hot box

1655
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:21,100
or if it's a large bore, you know, a dump truck with a roller, so I really don't depend.

1656
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:26,300
So in part also we really try to continue on a daily basis.

1657
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:32,880
It's an uphill battle, but the truck is not sitting in the garage collecting dust like I said.

1658
01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:35,260
And just another point.

1659
01:42:35,420 --> 01:42:42,820
Where do we stand with the bombardiers that we're going to do snow removal in the business districts and so forth?

1660
01:42:42,820 --> 01:42:51,960
But we do have a sidewalk tractor that is run out of Pax about it.

1661
01:42:52,060 --> 01:42:56,820
But again, we focus in on the major sidewalks.

1662
01:42:57,460 --> 01:43:00,940
As far as the sidewalk is in front of storefronts, we have not been doing it.

1663
01:43:01,300 --> 01:43:03,160
It's in ordinance. They should be doing it.

1664
01:43:03,580 --> 01:43:05,940
Snow removal after numerous snowstorms.

1665
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:06,800
We have the windrows.

1666
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:11,140
We clean the squares up after a 20-year snowfall.

1667
01:43:11,140 --> 01:43:16,240
we call it all the way, as you know, all right. But you get a, you know, never saw some three, six

1668
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:22,920
inches. Storefront is responsible, you know, by ordinance, right. And we work very close with Dennis

1669
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:28,660
and John, right, because we're out there, we call in, go here, go there, they're not doing this,

1670
01:43:28,740 --> 01:43:33,080
they're not doing that, so they're saying, yeah, everybody works well together on that.

1671
01:43:33,220 --> 01:43:36,440
So, so what is, what is that little truck to do that, the snowman?

1672
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:42,760
All right, well Ring Road is an example right in front of the schools let's say

1673
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:48,620
like the book school all right you know we clean that all right a lot of you know

1674
01:43:48,620 --> 01:43:53,420
active and passive recreation areas all right we move it all around all right

1675
01:43:53,420 --> 01:43:59,180
goes up Winthrop Street does the sidewalk on Winthrop Street yeah move

1676
01:43:59,180 --> 01:44:02,200
it all around because it is a registered piece so you can just you

1677
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,320
when we drive it on the street, all right?

1678
01:44:04,500 --> 01:44:05,800
And it's really a case of, you know,

1679
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:06,920
where do we need it the most?

1680
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,580
All right, as far as if we're having a fixed route, all right?

1681
01:44:11,020 --> 01:44:13,500
It has a small fixed route, but after that, it's all full.

1682
01:44:13,980 --> 01:44:15,560
Because the other thing too is, all right,

1683
01:44:15,580 --> 01:44:18,220
the guy that may be driving it right now,

1684
01:44:19,020 --> 01:44:20,320
he may have just got off, okay,

1685
01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:22,500
a 12-hour skid to the big snow fight.

1686
01:44:23,220 --> 01:44:25,300
And Mike pulls them off of that and pops in that,

1687
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,440
so I got to look at the human factor,

1688
01:44:27,540 --> 01:44:28,600
two of their snowmaps.

1689
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:31,180
Thank you.

1690
01:44:31,180 --> 01:44:32,920
Thank you, Councilor Marsh. Councilor Covell.

1691
01:44:34,260 --> 01:44:38,740
Councilor Scott probably asked many of the questions I was going to ask, but I'm good with it.

1692
01:44:39,660 --> 01:44:40,740
Vice President Longo.

1693
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:41,700
Thank you.

1694
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:47,820
With regards to, I have a lot of sentiments in my colleagues, too, with regards to personnel

1695
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:55,160
and working to bring it in-house a little bit more with regards to the money we pay contractors.

1696
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:59,960
But on the issue of the time frames and when you do it, can you give a...

1697
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,120
There's an update with regards to crosswalks.

1698
01:45:02,300 --> 01:45:02,780
When they're going to be...

1699
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,020
I've been trying to get him in for the last two weeks.

1700
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:12,360
As a matter of fact, Chief Buckley has some serious concerns as well.

1701
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:12,860
Yes.

1702
01:45:13,460 --> 01:45:16,540
And, of course, the month of April was lost.

1703
01:45:17,480 --> 01:45:19,280
Most of May was lost.

1704
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:26,440
And, see, there's only three large, I call it, municipal companies that do lightning.

1705
01:45:27,180 --> 01:45:31,980
Yes, you do have your little small companies that will do a parking lot or whatever, but

1706
01:45:31,980 --> 01:45:36,220
I'm talking, you know, a major arterial, one in a double yellow, all right?

1707
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:41,260
There's only three companies, all right, within the $4.95, and it's a fight to the finish,

1708
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:41,680
all right?

1709
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,380
I'm fighting all the time to stand, call me and summon, and he grabs it.

1710
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,300
Me, where I grab it, he calls me, you took my truck, all right?

1711
01:45:48,700 --> 01:45:51,840
But right now, all right, they're paving up a 93, all right?

1712
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:58,600
93 in the Dutchess area. The three companies are up there, no

1713
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,940
sooner is the asphalt put down and they put the skips right on that road there.

1714
01:46:03,340 --> 01:46:09,200
Mass Highway, in a lot of people, is unwritten rules out there.

1715
01:46:09,940 --> 01:46:15,400
Traffic markings is one of them. Rock Salt is another. Mass Highway has quite

1716
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:21,980
already statewide before anybody and then it's whatever's left over so that

1717
01:46:21,980 --> 01:46:27,180
compounds and we have no ability to do this in-house I need a big truck

1718
01:46:27,180 --> 01:46:31,340
madam vice-president I need I need the big a big truck that would carry you

1719
01:46:31,340 --> 01:46:37,900
know 25 gallons of traffic paint capacity you know do we have a personnel

1720
01:46:37,900 --> 01:46:44,540
liquid do it do a personal train to do it no a small job madam vice

1721
01:46:44,540 --> 01:46:49,320
President, you want to pay the handicap we'll say here in the building? Absolutely.

1722
01:46:50,260 --> 01:46:53,760
All right, but Claire, is the equipment to do anything on it? No.

1723
01:46:57,930 --> 01:46:59,010
So what are we

1724
01:46:59,010 --> 01:47:02,850
working on now? We're working on potholes, mainly the main crews out on the

1725
01:47:02,850 --> 01:47:06,950
streets? Well, you know potholes is just one of the things we're doing, all right?

1726
01:47:07,910 --> 01:47:12,890
You know, rebuilding catch basins that have collapsed, all right? In some

1727
01:47:12,890 --> 01:47:19,990
this is the serious sidewalk issues as a result of either buckling the undermining

1728
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:24,890
trying to get those all right you know we may not be doing all half a street but

1729
01:47:24,890 --> 01:47:29,550
if it's in front of two houses but we're trying to address what we can

1730
01:47:29,550 --> 01:47:36,750
internally all right to put out the real public safety emergencies you know

1731
01:47:36,750 --> 01:47:42,410
As a matter of fact, earlier in the week, we got a problem.

1732
01:47:42,650 --> 01:47:44,030
As a matter of fact, from one of the counselors,

1733
01:47:44,510 --> 01:47:45,330
I forget which one.

1734
01:47:45,450 --> 01:47:48,350
But anyway, a couple of serious puddles

1735
01:47:48,350 --> 01:47:49,150
in one of the streets.

1736
01:47:49,630 --> 01:47:50,630
All right, no problem.

1737
01:47:50,730 --> 01:47:51,610
I gave it a hiring plan.

1738
01:47:52,170 --> 01:47:53,170
They went up there, all right?

1739
01:47:54,210 --> 01:47:55,890
Wasn't just a couple of puddles.

1740
01:47:56,290 --> 01:47:57,410
These were bomb craters.

1741
01:47:58,110 --> 01:47:58,910
Bomb craters.

1742
01:47:59,330 --> 01:47:59,930
OK, fine.

1743
01:48:00,190 --> 01:48:00,910
We can do it.

1744
01:48:01,550 --> 01:48:03,570
But in doing it, what did we find?

1745
01:48:04,270 --> 01:48:05,610
A broken water box.

1746
01:48:05,610 --> 01:48:10,990
I had the water department fix that they churned it not one of the houses in the government

1747
01:48:10,990 --> 01:48:13,450
There was a catch base and ready to collapse

1748
01:48:14,150 --> 01:48:14,630
well

1749
01:48:15,790 --> 01:48:18,410
There's the training in the mindset. All right

1750
01:48:18,410 --> 01:48:19,870
You go once

1751
01:48:20,510 --> 01:48:21,210
Don't I

1752
01:48:21,730 --> 01:48:27,390
So he had a fix sorry the gate here had to get the deep box new chimney and everything else in the ground

1753
01:48:27,390 --> 01:48:31,670
Hi, we had to come back in and rebuild the catch base that I have for the paper straight

1754
01:48:31,670 --> 01:48:34,450
All right, and this is what we're running into where

1755
01:48:35,610 --> 01:48:37,450
I'll do an end of money in front of a house.

1756
01:48:38,150 --> 01:48:41,510
I turn around and it's like four houses on the other side.

1757
01:48:41,970 --> 01:48:43,490
It's like, we can't walk away.

1758
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:45,610
We're gonna stay here, right?

1759
01:48:45,970 --> 01:48:48,010
The capability, the knowledge, and the know-how

1760
01:48:48,010 --> 01:48:50,190
is the DP Deli, right?

1761
01:48:50,530 --> 01:48:52,670
It's the length of time something takes

1762
01:48:52,670 --> 01:48:54,770
based on the number of manpower, right?

1763
01:48:55,110 --> 01:48:56,710
And that's why we backed up consistently.

1764
01:49:02,850 --> 01:49:05,210
If you have a mic, you will, sir.

1765
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:06,190
Just to make sure.

1766
01:49:06,590 --> 01:49:08,870
So we talked before about headcounts.

1767
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:13,050
So you said you have 49 plus four vacancies which comes to 53.

1768
01:49:13,570 --> 01:49:17,270
So do you know how many are in each department right now?

1769
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:21,790
I'm just curious to see if the vacancies are in it.

1770
01:49:21,890 --> 01:49:22,690
Where are the vacancies?

1771
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:23,950
Are they all on highway or?

1772
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:25,210
Two are in cemetery.

1773
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:26,410
Two in cemetery?

1774
01:49:27,410 --> 01:49:32,850
One in Farr Street and one in highway.

1775
01:49:32,850 --> 01:49:33,570
That

1776
01:49:39,140 --> 01:49:39,980
was a water.

1777
01:49:42,060 --> 01:49:42,820
That's a water.

1778
01:49:43,620 --> 01:49:44,580
In the cemetery?

1779
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,060
It's in the cemetery of water.

1780
01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:46,640
Water?

1781
01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:47,700
No.

1782
01:49:52,380 --> 01:49:53,800
So what water in the highway, right?

1783
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:56,760
Change that to water, right?

1784
01:49:57,180 --> 01:49:57,660
Water.

1785
01:49:59,060 --> 01:50:00,400
So one in water.

1786
01:50:01,460 --> 01:50:02,460
Two in cemetery.

1787
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:04,240
There's one more, right?

1788
01:50:04,580 --> 01:50:05,300
One in forestry.

1789
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:06,840
One in forestry.

1790
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:07,900
Okay. Okay.

1791
01:50:10,380 --> 01:50:19,920
Any more questions regarding Highway? No, we're good. Okay. Moving on to Cemetery.

1792
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,100
We wouldn't know.

1793
01:50:31,860 --> 01:50:32,960
Must I explain it all?

1794
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:35,540
Yes, sir.

1795
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:37,160
We're about to leave.

1796
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:38,140
So

1797
01:50:42,940 --> 01:50:48,520
the personal services from 2019 were $480,660.

1798
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:52,400
The fiscal year 2020 request is $579,250.

1799
01:50:53,620 --> 01:50:58,880
Ordinary expenses in fiscal year 2019 were a negative $685.

1800
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,240
And the request this year is a negative $58,890.

1801
01:51:05,410 --> 01:51:08,650
There's an increase in cemetery repair and maintenance.

1802
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,760
Okay, so that's, okay, so the Secretary of Bathroom, okay.

1803
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:22,840
Structural repairs and improvements, Mr. President.

1804
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:24,180
Okay, that'll sum it up.

1805
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,560
What will that work be completed through the chair?

1806
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,920
Uh, do you know when that work will be completed?

1807
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:38,780
No, we have more of the time, it's, you know, they have to still go out and get, you know, folks who think that would be just.

1808
01:51:39,260 --> 01:51:40,500
So the early stage is that?

1809
01:51:40,500 --> 01:51:47,160
Okay, so in the early stages nothing's gone out to bid yet to the building on the side for environment. Okay, correct

1810
01:51:48,620 --> 01:51:54,280
What's the what's the negative amounts in that it says cemetery other services slash project

1811
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:00,460
Okay

1812
01:52:15,460 --> 01:52:19,780
What was the chair, what was the, how much did it go down by?

1813
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:31,900
There's a memo from Anne-Marie to the mayor in the back, it's 30B.

1814
01:52:46,700 --> 01:52:51,220
That will come in the actuals, though, too, right?

1815
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,380
I thought it was an expense because those are supplemental.

1816
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,280
Does anyone have a personal idea about it here?

1817
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:58,820
I do.

1818
01:52:58,820 --> 01:53:04,400
Of course he does, Adam does, and of course he does.

1819
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:04,960
This is 2009.

1820
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,300
2008, which has already put it in his mind.

1821
01:53:11,420 --> 01:53:13,200
The Rayman budget.

1822
01:53:14,780 --> 01:53:15,940
Okay, and I'll be back.

1823
01:53:24,140 --> 01:53:27,680
Does anyone have specific questions regarding the severance?

1824
01:53:39,860 --> 01:53:42,700
It looks like the heating bill has gone up a little bit. Is that correct?

1825
01:53:43,260 --> 01:53:45,240
The heating expense has gone up. There's a fight.

1826
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:59,680
This is the 19 budget sale and lots and grays for January 1, 2017 through December 31, 2017 was $222,000.

1827
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:13,040
all 222,400. Right, so it went down 100,000. Right, this year it was 139,600. And last year it was 222,400.

1828
01:54:18,020 --> 01:54:21,960
Is that because we're running out of space? No, it's because people died. What?

1829
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:35,680
The economy's so good. The economy's so good.

1830
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,420
Any other questions regarding the

1831
01:54:42,420 --> 01:54:44,780
Any retirements or expect another cemetery?

1832
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:45,440
No.

1833
01:54:48,970 --> 01:54:53,670
What are the hours of the minimum that work in the subreddit?

1834
01:54:54,250 --> 01:54:54,790
Pop hours?

1835
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:58,150
8.34.

1836
01:54:58,230 --> 01:54:59,950
They're daily, you know, 7.04.

1837
01:55:00,230 --> 01:55:05,150
But of course, depending on, you know, some religious police,

1838
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:09,890
the services may fluctuate and there was some sunset and,

1839
01:55:09,970 --> 01:55:12,910
you know, so we work with those to accommodate them.

1840
01:55:12,910 --> 01:55:17,390
And that also includes, you know, services to me for Saturdays as well.

1841
01:55:17,930 --> 01:55:24,430
They're open on a regular schedule. They don't stay open late on Wednesday and then close early on Friday like other city departments.

1842
01:55:25,470 --> 01:55:29,530
Yeah, they're open on a regular schedule. The watch that's usually in the window doesn't lock down at night.

1843
01:55:32,830 --> 01:55:34,230
Any other cemetery questions?

1844
01:55:40,180 --> 01:55:42,380
Moving on. Next to parks.

1845
01:55:42,380 --> 01:55:45,500
Oh, can we hold this one for a couple of hours?

1846
01:55:48,020 --> 01:55:48,720
I second that.

1847
01:55:51,100 --> 01:56:05,220
Parks 2019 personal services $488,024 fiscal year 2020 request $517,121 ordinary expenses

1848
01:56:05,220 --> 01:56:14,860
Expenses 2019, 288,633 ordinary expenses, I'm sorry, fiscal year 2020 request for ordinary

1849
01:56:14,860 --> 01:56:17,460
expenses, 287,420.

1850
01:56:22,860 --> 01:56:25,320
Any questions regarding parks, council or the night?

1851
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,960
Can you just talk a little bit about what the contracted services are at the pool and

1852
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:31,180
pond? Is that testing for?

1853
01:56:32,220 --> 01:56:35,740
Yeah, testing being, is testing itself on it, that's correct.

1854
01:56:36,220 --> 01:56:40,840
And then what's the other dog, what do you call it?

1855
01:56:41,100 --> 01:56:43,020
Geese. Yeah, the geese. Yeah.

1856
01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:45,760
Geese control? Yeah, geese control.

1857
01:56:49,020 --> 01:56:54,250
And how are we doing with the dog mess bag in our box?

1858
01:56:54,510 --> 01:56:55,610
We got enough in the budget for that?

1859
01:56:56,910 --> 01:57:00,110
That's on 5, 4, 6, 0, 14, 6, 8.

1860
01:57:00,130 --> 01:57:03,170
That's on 1, 4, 6, 0, 14, 6, 8.

1861
01:57:03,170 --> 01:57:08,410
Those are the waste bags and for those side going highway, that's with that 5, 4, 6, 8.

1862
01:57:09,310 --> 01:57:10,150
What number again was that?

1863
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:12,610
That's on 14, 6, 8.

1864
01:57:12,890 --> 01:57:14,790
31,000, supplies number two.

1865
01:57:15,170 --> 01:57:15,390
Okay.

1866
01:57:15,570 --> 01:57:16,090
Oh, okay.

1867
01:57:21,130 --> 01:57:25,330
With the food for the inmates, so we didn't have anything last year after the chair?

1868
01:57:25,410 --> 01:57:28,970
No, it's a new account, it's so I can keep track of it.

1869
01:57:28,970 --> 01:57:31,470
because they've come out of the contract money.

1870
01:57:32,370 --> 01:57:32,370
So,

1871
01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:37,400
there's all the problems in the inmates,

1872
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:40,120
while the product and pilot, you know?

1873
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:41,800
What do we use in the-

1874
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:42,960
That's the police department, yeah.

1875
01:57:43,820 --> 01:57:47,420
Through the chair, what do we use in the inmates

1876
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,000
for unregulated, what do we use in the world?

1877
01:57:50,300 --> 01:57:53,140
Any, anything that I'm going to from daily housekeeping,

1878
01:57:53,860 --> 01:57:56,560
all right, to painting the interiors of buildings,

1879
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:07,420
you know, some, you know, brush cutting, you know, Mike does repairs and rebuilds the infields

1880
01:58:07,420 --> 01:58:15,080
on ball fields, you know, in some cases you could say supplement, you know, the existing

1881
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:23,480
parks staff, but a lot of times it's work that we would just normally not be able to

1882
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:30,640
get to. But as well as that, we share them, you know, off hours, I'll use that

1883
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:36,100
with Johnny Knack at the schools. I paint the interior of the school

1884
01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:40,640
buildings. One of the things that the DMHs will do in the

1885
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:46,260
summertime or school vacations or whatever. In that particular case, he

1886
01:58:46,260 --> 01:58:49,020
picks up the tab when he has them.

1887
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,340
It's a worthwhile program. We

1888
01:58:53,340 --> 01:58:55,180
You do not pay for the salary of the officer.

1889
01:58:56,020 --> 01:58:57,980
All we have to do is feed them.

1890
01:58:58,620 --> 01:58:58,800
That's it.

1891
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,720
That's the only expense that comes with the labor.

1892
01:59:00,940 --> 01:59:01,460
It's just a fee.

1893
01:59:01,740 --> 01:59:03,860
Yeah, and all of these inmates, I mean,

1894
01:59:04,140 --> 01:59:05,820
this is state, not county.

1895
01:59:06,500 --> 01:59:10,340
All of them have under five years of time left, all right?

1896
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:13,780
And they got one foot out the door.

1897
01:59:14,380 --> 01:59:16,500
They know if they blow it, they go behind the wall,

1898
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,100
they go back to the wall holes where they go, all right?

1899
01:59:19,220 --> 01:59:20,760
And they start all over again.

1900
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,600
It's definitely, I wish I had several of those crews

1901
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,720
certain times of the year to do some

1902
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,320
of the front work, the bull work.

1903
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,160
But you know, cleaning that culvert,

1904
01:59:30,700 --> 01:59:32,740
fun-wise, there's a perfect job

1905
01:59:32,740 --> 01:59:34,200
they'd like to get done.

1906
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:36,440
Just give them the tools for them to go.

1907
01:59:37,580 --> 01:59:39,860
We don't have any cement workers there in prison?

1908
01:59:40,580 --> 01:59:42,700
You'd be surprised. There's cement workers,

1909
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:44,040
workers, electricians.

1910
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,240
There's a lot of them.

1911
01:59:46,380 --> 01:59:47,500
There's a lot of them.

1912
01:59:51,740 --> 01:59:59,740
Is there a list of updates that the parks need or safety concerns?

1913
02:00:02,540 --> 02:00:10,380
Okay, well, obviously we get the request from constituents every day on a day-to-day basis.

1914
02:00:10,820 --> 02:00:16,740
But as well as that between Mike and his staff, that they're going around in these parks themselves every day.

1915
02:00:17,140 --> 02:00:20,860
Something has to be fixed. Sometimes Mike has it done immediately.

1916
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:26,660
Sometimes it's put on a list of things to do that they get at a later date.

1917
02:00:26,660 --> 02:00:34,100
So that list, can we get a copy of the list of things that still need to be done?

1918
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,380
Yeah, we can get something for you out of my personal setup problem.

1919
02:00:46,270 --> 02:00:56,500
I know that lack of staff is a big issue, but do our crews do daily sweeps of the parking

1920
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:04,220
playgrounds for like needles, and I hate to say where we are right now.

1921
02:01:04,620 --> 02:01:09,520
I know we don't have the staff, but is that something that, you know, we do?

1922
02:01:09,820 --> 02:01:13,040
Okay, Mike, I think we've been, as far as daily, to be honest with you,

1923
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:17,720
in an ideal world, you'd like to, but I know it doesn't happen, right?

1924
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,400
Because, again, it depends on how many people he has in,

1925
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,560
in order to schedule for the daily, and be in the battles.

1926
02:01:23,740 --> 02:01:25,440
I mean, that's two guys, that's five.

1927
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,020
They may only have three that come in today.

1928
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:28,400
Right.

1929
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,980
So, again, these are the things we get calls on,

1930
02:01:31,980 --> 02:01:40,920
And the neighbor communities, system parks, the recreation parks, our crew goes out and

1931
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,200
does that on a daily basis.

1932
02:01:43,020 --> 02:01:43,960
So that's dangerous stuff.

1933
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:48,180
So again, it just goes back to the number of employees.

1934
02:01:48,500 --> 02:01:58,340
So with every issue we have, the basic common denominator is lack of numbers.

1935
02:01:58,340 --> 02:02:05,880
So I just want to say that's something like that, Councilor, you said it would sort of like traveling out of slippery slope.

1936
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:14,140
I mean, to have, you know, an employee of DPW out there for one of their jobs being needles, they go.

1937
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:18,920
What they do is usually what my crew does is they go through the playground as they clean the playground.

1938
02:02:19,740 --> 02:02:28,080
One of the things they're trained to look for are hypodermic needles, unfortunately, but that's that's something they do every day.

1939
02:02:28,340 --> 02:02:34,420
They do not, well, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we tried to see all the barrels.

1940
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:40,260
And their advice to check the playgrounds, under bushes,

1941
02:02:41,300 --> 02:02:43,340
etc. where we found them in the past.

1942
02:02:43,540 --> 02:02:49,000
We haven't found any in part of the past six to eight months.

1943
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,000
We'll have any reports of them.

1944
02:02:51,380 --> 02:02:56,960
I'm not saying that you can check through Armstrong if they might have been.

1945
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:05,120
So people get calls from people that have the idea that we should do it on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

1946
02:03:05,460 --> 02:03:08,020
No, that's great that we should get three, but Friday, yeah.

1947
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,660
So like you said trash removal is Monday, Wednesday, and Friday?

1948
02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:12,020
Yes.

1949
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:13,180
That happens without a doubt, right?

1950
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:13,700
Yes, OK.

1951
02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:19,740
That's at the parks, but not the business districts and stuff.

1952
02:03:20,020 --> 02:03:21,380
The parks are just around the business.

1953
02:03:21,380 --> 02:03:28,120
But as far as I'm just going to address that, I admit you are early, daily, 92 miles.

1954
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:30,000
He hasn't done it to a science.

1955
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:31,540
I read that every day.

1956
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:34,380
We adjust that science and look at the barrel.

1957
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:36,580
So that's it in front of Oasis.

1958
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:39,180
But one person empties out 92 barrels a day?

1959
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:39,760
Yep.

1960
02:03:40,180 --> 02:03:40,900
Every square.

1961
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,060
Go some hillside, hardware, all the way down to Haines Square and everything in between.

1962
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:45,780
Even on the weekends?

1963
02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:47,400
I didn't get two 2-vowels.

1964
02:03:47,500 --> 02:03:48,300
No, just went again.

1965
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:49,340
Mind if you find it.

1966
02:03:49,340 --> 02:03:52,660
That goes back to what I said, I want a six day a week operation.

1967
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:54,160
I was in West Hampton Square.

1968
02:03:54,220 --> 02:03:54,960
Nothing for two values.

1969
02:03:55,780 --> 02:04:01,240
If we're working, Councilor, if we're working on an event, we'll say,

1970
02:04:01,700 --> 02:04:03,480
I'll break a guide for you like I did last week.

1971
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,440
Last week I had the road race going.

1972
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:09,180
You know, I had people out there for traffic control, assistant chief.

1973
02:04:09,380 --> 02:04:10,800
I pulled a guide for you.

1974
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:12,200
I said empty the barrels in the squares.

1975
02:04:13,820 --> 02:04:15,920
I, as the race is going, what's he going to do?

1976
02:04:16,340 --> 02:04:16,480
Work?

1977
02:04:19,700 --> 02:04:25,120
So if it's there, I do it, but up the flames, no, I don't.

1978
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:27,880
Yeah, I never get complaints about it.

1979
02:04:28,380 --> 02:04:30,480
You don't want to get complaints about the one in front of Oasis?

1980
02:04:30,740 --> 02:04:30,960
I don't.

1981
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:32,420
The one in front of Oasis?

1982
02:04:32,860 --> 02:04:32,900
No.

1983
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,200
CBS on Main Street gets a lot of complaints.

1984
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:36,700
Yeah.

1985
02:04:36,820 --> 02:04:38,500
So I'm going to put one by the...

1986
02:04:38,500 --> 02:04:39,220
Oh, it's a good one.

1987
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:39,620
Yeah.

1988
02:04:40,420 --> 02:04:41,100
It's heavily done.

1989
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:42,200
I'm going to get shingled up.

1990
02:04:42,900 --> 02:04:43,680
That's the only one.

1991
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,280
Like all my correct six full-time one vacancy

1992
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:59,240
Wow, seven full-time one vacancy spoiled now

1993
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:05,940
Good all seven that's seven mr. President, you know one of those is my

1994
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:18,140
Oh, okay. Oh, this is seven full time. Okay. I see one. It says vacant. I'm like, I'm like,

1995
02:05:18,180 --> 02:05:24,060
I thought, yeah, it's the wrong tab. The wrong effort. And then I think it says thinking. Yes.

1996
02:05:25,180 --> 02:05:28,580
That's right. We have a new person. Right.

1997
02:05:28,580 --> 02:05:33,520
who transferred from cemetery to park yeah so that's that's just seven full

1998
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:46,680
time I can't keep up

1999
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:53,720
okay that's fine as long as you know the names but just trying to figure out

2000
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:54,720
how many full time.

2001
02:05:55,760 --> 02:06:00,780
Look, highway has to wait until that is not true anymore

2002
02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:01,920
because they know that.

2003
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:07,040
That's a picture in time, but it was submitted to us.

2004
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:09,520
Okay, thank you.

2005
02:06:10,220 --> 02:06:12,540
Any other questions regarding the parks?

2006
02:06:13,820 --> 02:06:14,300
Parks?

2007
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:16,160
What's called parks?

2008
02:06:17,620 --> 02:06:17,920
Okay.

2009
02:06:19,780 --> 02:06:20,120
First.

2010
02:06:20,860 --> 02:06:22,440
You guys need a filter to call.

2011
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:23,420
Thank you very much.

2012
02:06:23,620 --> 02:06:24,800
Thank you.

2013
02:06:26,180 --> 02:06:30,260
The first three.

2014
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:38,320
First of all services 2019 299,290.

2015
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:44,740
Fiscal 2020 request 312,640.

2016
02:06:44,820 --> 02:06:49,460
Ordinary expenses for 2019 226,460.

2017
02:06:49,460 --> 02:06:56,680
The request for 2020 ordinary expenses is $2,016,400.

2018
02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:06,610
It looks like there's an increase in vehicle repairs, material and supplies.

2019
02:07:07,010 --> 02:07:07,450
There's an increase.

2020
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:29,540
We're just picking up the logs, so I did a two check of the price and it was like $4,000 or something like that, and that saves on the vehicle and all of that.

2021
02:07:55,260 --> 02:07:59,520
I'm looking here at ordinary expenses and I see $102,000,000 in the budget.

2022
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:05,720
$1,000 up from $75,000 from last year's budget for an arborist and contract for stumper removal.

2023
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:12,260
Now in the past budgets that we've had when Jesse was around, Jesse was the arborist,

2024
02:08:12,340 --> 02:08:14,760
the tree warden and the foreman of the forestry department.

2025
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:19,180
Last year when we had budget discussions, I was talking about contracting out services.

2026
02:08:19,460 --> 02:08:22,840
Again, I gave a great speech about the race to the bottom, about how we're investing

2027
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,480
in people that aren't investing in the community.

2028
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:30,400
I will pay them $75,000 to perform services, and I think that those services should be

2029
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:31,260
done in-house.

2030
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:36,080
Now we're seeing an increase in this line item of $27,000 from the previous year.

2031
02:08:36,660 --> 02:08:39,640
I'm going to be safe to say that we could have a contract for stump removal in an

2032
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:44,460
abarist employed in-house at a salary of $102,000 a year.

2033
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:09,020
What's not a salary because he's actually a contractor right so in terms of Earl's ability

2034
02:09:09,020 --> 02:09:14,000
to be a contractor controlled direction do we tell him when to come in when to go home

2035
02:09:14,460 --> 02:09:18,440
Does he use our equipment, does he use our tools, does he use our trucks, does he bring his own?

2036
02:09:18,860 --> 02:09:23,380
Because if we're telling him when to come in, we're telling him when to work, he's using our equipment and our trucks, he's an employee.

2037
02:09:23,580 --> 02:09:26,260
We shouldn't be paying him as a contractor. He should be working under us.

2038
02:09:26,260 --> 02:09:34,240
Well, you know, when we're paying for him, he works in conjunction with the three-way line and the forest, right?

2039
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:40,740
You know, by state law, every community has to have a certified operas, right?

2040
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:45,200
And, you know, Aggie and I have been talking about this for a long time, all right?

2041
02:09:45,540 --> 02:09:52,060
And I was uncomfortable with the fact that, yes, we had a girl as a tree man coming in

2042
02:09:52,060 --> 02:09:52,560
helping-

2043
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:53,260
He was a step-brother.

2044
02:09:53,740 --> 02:09:54,040
Exactly.

2045
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:54,740
Right?

2046
02:09:55,220 --> 02:10:02,980
But in the case of, you know, whether a tree must come down or will remain and everything

2047
02:10:02,980 --> 02:10:06,820
else, it's like, you know, cake with a candle.

2048
02:10:06,820 --> 02:10:09,200
I got Aggie, and now I've got Burrow.

2049
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:12,740
So that way, if a tree, in their opinion, remains.

2050
02:10:13,580 --> 02:10:14,300
It remains.

2051
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,060
And it's not a statement, it remains.

2052
02:10:16,220 --> 02:10:19,160
When I've taken it down, if a tree has to come down,

2053
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:23,480
then by law, they have now the legal authority

2054
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:24,580
under the Commonwealth.

2055
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:27,100
Brian, how far should you take it down?

2056
02:10:27,340 --> 02:10:28,440
OK, let's go.

2057
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,100
And that's the end of it.

2058
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:33,240
Up to this point, up to prior to Burrow,

2059
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:40,260
Somebody could challenge this city and say, what legal authority are you going under?

2060
02:10:41,020 --> 02:10:45,040
There really wasn't much for us to stand on other than, okay,

2061
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:50,220
even somebody would go to sales pitch that the tree should remain or the tree has to come down.

2062
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:58,300
But as well as that, not just up or down, but also a case of selective pruning.

2063
02:10:59,260 --> 02:11:06,740
The tree has to be pruned, pruned professionally, don't do a hack job, but don't do the Vs like

2064
02:11:06,740 --> 02:11:09,820
we've seen out there with Ys and they have to do with us.

2065
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:16,020
By having the two of them combined, they can give directions of forestry and forestry.

2066
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:21,860
What to do are not different, and because, again, they have a further extent to the

2067
02:11:21,860 --> 02:11:22,140
background.

2068
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:22,980
So who's in charge?

2069
02:11:23,500 --> 02:11:24,000
The foreman?

2070
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:24,720
The avarice?

2071
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:25,480
The warden?

2072
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:26,720
Who makes these determinations?

2073
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:28,280
Fire is what? A removal?

2074
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:30,640
Yeah, tree branch is coming down.

2075
02:11:30,820 --> 02:11:31,980
You know, who reports?

2076
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,420
Tree branch coming down, it could be Aggie or Earl.

2077
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:36,580
Tree that actually comes down, okay.

2078
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:38,860
It's a case of, all right, they work together.

2079
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:42,480
All right, yeah, you could recommend the tree coming down.

2080
02:11:42,820 --> 02:11:44,820
Earl would then look at it and say it's coming down.

2081
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:46,300
Nobody then could challenge it.

2082
02:11:46,340 --> 02:11:47,900
What's the organizational child look like

2083
02:11:47,900 --> 02:11:49,860
in terms like day-to-day responsibilities and reporting?

2084
02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:53,060
Okay, yeah, Aggie works directly for me.

2085
02:11:53,060 --> 02:11:57,760
the forestry. They're off to the side.

2086
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:00,300
Exactly, working directly.

2087
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:02,200
Did you want to say something, Andy?

2088
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:04,200
If I may, please do.

2089
02:12:04,460 --> 02:12:08,000
Yes, as stream warden in the state of Massachusetts,

2090
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:10,320
stream warden has the authority to remove trees,

2091
02:12:10,540 --> 02:12:11,640
to design trees for removal.

2092
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:14,420
Thankfully, we have Earl on here now, so he has a second opinion.

2093
02:12:14,820 --> 02:12:16,100
As is by the power certification,

2094
02:12:16,980 --> 02:12:19,900
my certification is in landscape design from Robert,

2095
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:22,200
which qualifies me in the position

2096
02:12:22,200 --> 02:12:29,260
but now we have two of us so if there's a case off and there's a case it's 50-50 or what do you think?

2097
02:12:29,420 --> 02:12:33,880
Can we go up in the bucket, see what damage you can see from that we can't see from the ground.

2098
02:12:34,380 --> 02:12:38,220
So it's a wonderful, you know, we work very well together.

2099
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,800
So say there's a disagreement, whose decision is the one that goes?

2100
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:44,920
Bottom line, all right, it comes to me.

2101
02:12:45,700 --> 02:12:51,160
All right, and then, you know, they got to put on their, uh, these kind of salesman act, right?

2102
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:53,800
And I'll go, I'll go whatever way you got to go.

2103
02:12:53,900 --> 02:12:59,120
So in terms of statutory and legal authority, the warden is the operating staff, the same exact power as the state law.

2104
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:04,600
I mean, ultimately, the mayor can say yes.

2105
02:13:04,700 --> 02:13:05,600
Well, that's on appeal here.

2106
02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:06,260
Yeah, yeah, okay.

2107
02:13:06,420 --> 02:13:07,320
Ultimately, all right.

2108
02:13:07,660 --> 02:13:10,220
But from the field point of view, because, you know.

2109
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:12,140
So why do we have an arborist?

2110
02:13:13,580 --> 02:13:14,480
You need one.

2111
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:20,940
Again, but I just heard that we need one by state, but what our tree wouldn't just say is that she can do that

2112
02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:26,220
But but then if it's challenged by anybody

2113
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:32,240
I mean it doesn't have to be another method residents saying no that tree has to stay

2114
02:13:33,020 --> 02:13:34,720
So why do we have a tree wouldn't that?

2115
02:13:35,980 --> 02:13:39,280
Of all due respect, why isn't a tree one in the hour?

2116
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:44,300
Paying two people a lot of money the hour is does not work for

2117
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:49,480
All right, he works an average variable three days a week, all right, unless I need him

2118
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:51,580
you know, for something, for something.

2119
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:53,320
I pay him a hundred grand for three days a week.

2120
02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:55,480
All right, no, I have to pay him a hundred grand now.

2121
02:13:55,580 --> 02:13:55,900
I'm sorry.

2122
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:56,520
No.

2123
02:13:57,140 --> 02:13:57,340
Oh, all right.

2124
02:13:57,340 --> 02:13:59,260
If it was, I'd pay an average.

2125
02:13:59,540 --> 02:14:00,220
Fifty-three.

2126
02:14:01,460 --> 02:14:01,700
All right.

2127
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,560
How much is the average getting, Kate?

2128
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:04,460
Fifty-three.

2129
02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:06,960
He's only getting, um...

2130
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:09,080
Oh, that's, that's probably, that's not real.

2131
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:10,860
Yeah, there is it.

2132
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:12,020
That's low-end.

2133
02:14:12,140 --> 02:14:13,480
Low-end.

2134
02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:15,000
Oh, so that's Earl's left his shoulder.

2135
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:15,500
What happened?

2136
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:16,620
What happened?

2137
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:17,720
He spent about a few hours.

2138
02:14:17,940 --> 02:14:18,220
He spent.

2139
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:19,760
He's getting paid $25.

2140
02:14:20,420 --> 02:14:20,740
No.

2141
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,920
I was getting a really cheap deal there.

2142
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:24,780
So he's getting paid, so the,

2143
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,160
Aburus is getting paid $25 an hour.

2144
02:14:27,780 --> 02:14:29,980
I was thinking about $2,100 per week.

2145
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:31,880
So you get $2,100 per week.

2146
02:14:32,220 --> 02:14:32,880
That's dollars.

2147
02:14:34,260 --> 02:14:34,780
No.

2148
02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:35,640
Wow.

2149
02:14:35,820 --> 02:14:37,320
$2,100 a week?

2150
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:38,200
That's a week.

2151
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:38,820
Wow.

2152
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:39,540
That's impossible.

2153
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:41,820
But it's not every week that he's getting paid.

2154
02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:46,480
So is he with us like 52 weeks a year or is he just in the summer?

2155
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:48,180
The successful record, what about the shift?

2156
02:14:48,900 --> 02:14:50,260
That's 84 hours in a week.

2157
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:54,300
So how much do we pay him in fiscal year 2019?

2158
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:58,640
We get that information that that would be good to have.

2159
02:14:58,760 --> 02:14:59,980
We can find out how much we pay the I.

2160
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,840
In 2019, it actually probably did. It was how many hours worked as well, although I know we can back into that.

2161
02:15:09,080 --> 02:15:18,540
If you take a look at the salaries of certified arborists out there that are in the public sector,

2162
02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:24,180
you talk about $80,000 plus or minus a year's job.

2163
02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:26,160
is stop removal and his salary.

2164
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:27,900
So what's his salary?

2165
02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:29,600
What's stop removal?

2166
02:15:29,860 --> 02:15:30,800
They need to break up the work.

2167
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:31,400
It's the difference.

2168
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:32,160
Right?

2169
02:15:32,740 --> 02:15:33,960
It's a thousand dollars a week.

2170
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:35,200
Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2171
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,640
So out of this one or two thousand dollars a week,

2172
02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:39,660
what's the difference?

2173
02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:40,200
What's the difference?

2174
02:15:41,020 --> 02:15:44,760
Let me have any way to get how she's made in 2019.

2175
02:15:45,140 --> 02:15:46,400
Yeah, I could do that.

2176
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:47,740
I mean, now or now.

2177
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,860
Let me go check the table records.

2178
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:51,900
Is that real?

2179
02:15:51,900 --> 02:15:53,980
Well, how much is stump removal out of that figure?

2180
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:56,500
Do we know how much stump removal is in this figure?

2181
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:57,380
It's 102.

2182
02:15:57,780 --> 02:15:58,540
And is this complete?

2183
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:02,860
I did about $55,000 to a stump removal.

2184
02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:05,100
So the difference is his salary, then.

2185
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:06,080
Which is $62,000.

2186
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:06,980
Or is there anything else in here?

2187
02:16:07,180 --> 02:16:07,780
No, it's just a stump.

2188
02:16:11,380 --> 02:16:13,680
But like I said, trying to get the numbers right

2189
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:16,520
on the outside, we're getting a buyer.

2190
02:16:17,600 --> 02:16:18,520
We're getting a steal.

2191
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:19,780
I didn't say it was right.

2192
02:16:19,780 --> 02:16:22,240
It's like I just said to judge, right?

2193
02:16:22,460 --> 02:16:24,180
You know, there are different communities

2194
02:16:24,180 --> 02:16:27,520
that do have avarice, and you're flirting around 80,000

2195
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:32,740
and then some for their own on the full-time payroll.

2196
02:16:33,800 --> 02:16:38,220
So we are, I mean, he has years of experience,

2197
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:40,500
years of experience in this job.

2198
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:42,940
We actually did an RFP in F519,

2199
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:46,040
and the bits that came in were so high

2200
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:47,560
we could not reward it.

2201
02:16:47,820 --> 02:16:48,980
So I rejected all of it.

2202
02:16:48,980 --> 02:16:50,640
You can hire the guy and make him a full-time employee.

2203
02:16:50,880 --> 02:16:52,780
That's exactly what, well, not full-time,

2204
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:55,140
it's a part, he's an independent contractor.

2205
02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:58,500
So he's not on payroll and benefits.

2206
02:16:58,580 --> 02:16:59,440
Does he drive his own truck?

2207
02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:01,240
Or do you use the city's truck?

2208
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:01,540
No.

2209
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:02,420
He has his own truck?

2210
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:03,480
Does he make his own hours?

2211
02:17:03,780 --> 02:17:04,640
Yes, on the road.

2212
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:06,880
He works, he works, he, he, he,

2213
02:17:07,580 --> 02:17:08,880
generally will work, you know,

2214
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:11,380
seven to four with the fire district, right?

2215
02:17:11,740 --> 02:17:12,720
Unless, you know,

2216
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:16,280
and he has something special or I have something special,

2217
02:17:16,420 --> 02:17:17,900
then, you know, I'll say, you know,

2218
02:17:17,900 --> 02:17:19,840
Okay, I'm in need of your stay.

2219
02:17:20,140 --> 02:17:21,660
Is he also the person that grinds the stumps?

2220
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:24,480
Okay, all right, okay.

2221
02:17:24,780 --> 02:17:25,980
It wants, not now.

2222
02:17:25,980 --> 02:17:26,660
He wants, not anymore.

2223
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:27,880
No, absolutely not.

2224
02:17:28,500 --> 02:17:32,060
I strictly have him employed because he's an analyst.

2225
02:17:32,540 --> 02:17:34,300
So who does the stump grind?

2226
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:35,800
Okay, we do it in an house.

2227
02:17:35,940 --> 02:17:36,540
We do that in an house.

2228
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:36,800
Yep.

2229
02:17:39,490 --> 02:17:39,910
Well, yeah.

2230
02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:40,490
That's good.

2231
02:17:40,670 --> 02:17:47,510
Yeah, but it's the determination what to do to achieve

2232
02:17:47,510 --> 02:17:49,850
to me is the most important thing.

2233
02:17:50,330 --> 02:17:53,390
I'm going to be pruning it, taking it out, taking it down, even playing it.

2234
02:17:54,010 --> 02:17:56,910
I'm blessed. I have Aggie and I got a role.

2235
02:17:57,950 --> 02:17:59,730
Do we all agree everything? Of course not.

2236
02:18:00,550 --> 02:18:04,530
But the bottom line is, at the end, whatever it may be.

2237
02:18:05,550 --> 02:18:07,630
I'm sorry, and that's...

2238
02:18:08,750 --> 02:18:11,890
Aggie, correct me if I'm wrong. You are certified to do that.

2239
02:18:12,510 --> 02:18:14,910
Right, so that's what I'm going to confuse in.

2240
02:18:14,910 --> 02:18:23,070
When you're talking about a line item that's adding $60,000 that says where if we have I just I don't understand

2241
02:18:23,610 --> 02:18:30,910
If we have an obverse, so do we need their obverse or don't we need their obverse if Aggie says that she's the one that certified

2242
02:18:30,910 --> 02:18:34,050
That's what that's a confusion. I'm coming into it

2243
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:41,190
We all know that it's under state law

2244
02:18:41,890 --> 02:18:46,710
the three warden has the authority to rule the city August is an extra layer of

2245
02:18:46,710 --> 02:18:51,830
protection as Brian has explained in case anybody has any questions about those

2246
02:18:51,830 --> 02:18:56,410
decisions I will also say that I'm a tree warden that does not go up in the bucket

2247
02:18:56,410 --> 02:19:01,350
truck I don't really go out with chainsaw and do the actual work but I

2248
02:19:01,350 --> 02:19:05,510
do all the inspections and I do all the work sheets and so forth.

2249
02:19:10,050 --> 02:19:10,530
So

2250
02:19:10,530 --> 02:19:13,570
He's incredibly talented, out of risk, that you could imagine.

2251
02:19:14,330 --> 02:19:16,830
He's worked since, you know, days ago.

2252
02:19:16,830 --> 02:19:18,570
He's worked with Juan Roe and Boston Cromby.

2253
02:19:18,570 --> 02:19:21,790
He knows everything about every historic, mature tree.

2254
02:19:22,070 --> 02:19:23,130
He's an extremely great guy.

2255
02:19:23,150 --> 02:19:24,050
I think of him as a mentor.

2256
02:19:24,890 --> 02:19:26,890
However, we have great respect for one each other,

2257
02:19:27,170 --> 02:19:29,170
for one each other, for each other's opinions,

2258
02:19:29,230 --> 02:19:33,170
and we would be hot pressed without Roe.

2259
02:19:33,410 --> 02:19:35,850
He has the, the other people on the far street crew

2260
02:19:35,850 --> 02:19:36,710
do not have circulation.

2261
02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:48,670
And that's, I think, when we do the budget, that's the biggest question that people come

2262
02:19:48,670 --> 02:19:54,530
back to us and say, why this, why that, and that's when we just need the answer to support

2263
02:19:54,530 --> 02:19:54,790
that.

2264
02:19:55,190 --> 02:20:02,090
If I may really quick, just while we're on the point, so what does it take, I honestly

2265
02:20:02,090 --> 02:20:03,490
don't know, what does it take to become an obverse?

2266
02:20:03,690 --> 02:20:06,030
Is it some sort of, how do you get the certification, I guess?

2267
02:20:06,030 --> 02:20:08,430
school. Is it like a four-year program?

2268
02:20:08,730 --> 02:20:15,710
You mass start a school. There are certain universities that have programs to become certified

2269
02:20:15,710 --> 02:20:24,070
office. You can also do it. It takes many years to most people, like seven years, eight years.

2270
02:20:24,270 --> 02:20:26,450
It took more than four years to get my certification. Okay.

2271
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:30,850
So, because I was working in a long school part of time. So it was a long process.

2272
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:38,230
However, I agree, and I think Brian would agree that to have arborists on the crew,

2273
02:20:38,310 --> 02:20:45,630
especially younger, enthusiastic, hardworking individuals who have the education in the background

2274
02:20:45,630 --> 02:20:50,190
and who want to continue their certification like a teacher or anyone else and who hopefully

2275
02:20:50,190 --> 02:20:56,650
would like to be the tree warden or the city arborist in the future, it seems that would be a nice one strategy for today.

2276
02:20:57,350 --> 02:20:58,230
Thank you.

2277
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:59,190
Councilor Knight.

2278
02:20:59,490 --> 02:21:04,010
So the tree warden can't be an obverse unless they have the obverse certification?

2279
02:21:05,130 --> 02:21:05,570
Incorrect.

2280
02:21:05,810 --> 02:21:06,090
You're right.

2281
02:21:06,170 --> 02:21:06,370
You're right.

2282
02:21:06,570 --> 02:21:06,890
You're right.

2283
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:07,390
You're right.

2284
02:21:09,490 --> 02:21:13,530
It's not necessary to be a certified obverse to be a tree warden.

2285
02:21:14,250 --> 02:21:14,690
Right.

2286
02:21:14,890 --> 02:21:18,830
I said a tree warden needs to have the obverse certifications to be an obverse.

2287
02:21:19,330 --> 02:21:19,370
Right?

2288
02:21:20,090 --> 02:21:20,450
Oh, yes.

2289
02:21:20,510 --> 02:21:20,650
Yes.

2290
02:21:20,930 --> 02:21:21,290
Right, so.

2291
02:21:21,610 --> 02:21:22,570
The tree separate thing.

2292
02:21:22,730 --> 02:21:23,370
The tree separate thing.

2293
02:21:24,670 --> 02:21:29,970
But an abarist, if they have the certification as an abarist, can't serve as a tree one.

2294
02:21:33,970 --> 02:21:36,950
So I guess what we're looking at is what's the duplication of efforts here?

2295
02:21:39,070 --> 02:21:44,170
It's really not a duplication. Anybody can call themselves an abarist who has a chainsaw and pick-up truck.

2296
02:21:44,690 --> 02:21:46,410
And a certification as an abarist?

2297
02:21:46,510 --> 02:21:48,070
No, you can call yourself an abarist.

2298
02:21:48,890 --> 02:21:53,170
I can call myself a Mason. I can call myself any artist.

2299
02:21:54,050 --> 02:21:58,250
I can call myself a basketball player if I shoot free throws in my driveway, but I'm not a basketball player.

2300
02:22:00,370 --> 02:22:08,090
But an individual who has certification has gone from extensive training and has gone from testing through the state to during that certification.

2301
02:22:08,970 --> 02:22:11,130
So you need a certified obverse.

2302
02:22:11,750 --> 02:22:12,310
Yes, exactly.

2303
02:22:12,310 --> 02:22:16,590
by right can serve as an also a tree wouldn't if they get a certification but

2304
02:22:16,590 --> 02:22:19,650
if a tree wouldn't get the certification as a tree wouldn't they can't serve as an

2305
02:22:19,650 --> 02:22:27,270
operas right okay there's certain things that within the same field Adam okay

2306
02:22:27,270 --> 02:22:32,650
but in this case here it's not only okay another layer of expertise this city is

2307
02:22:32,650 --> 02:22:36,850
blessed to have but it's also another layer of protection okay in the event

2308
02:22:36,850 --> 02:22:42,110
something to occur as a result of us doing something under not as we've

2309
02:22:42,110 --> 02:22:45,030
in the past, we've had one person hold both functions, right?

2310
02:22:45,430 --> 02:22:48,190
OK, as far as the one in the aberration.

2311
02:22:48,650 --> 02:22:53,130
Well, the girl happens to be the aberriss.

2312
02:22:53,690 --> 02:22:56,910
But his company, which was Earl the Aberriss,

2313
02:22:57,830 --> 02:23:01,770
was a company that did tree removal and everything else.

2314
02:23:02,070 --> 02:23:06,010
That's what the city had originally hired him for,

2315
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:10,810
his ability to take down trees, grind stumps,

2316
02:23:10,810 --> 02:23:19,610
and everything else. As time has gone on, Earl has sort of wound down, the guy's in his 70s.

2317
02:23:19,630 --> 02:23:20,390
I know he had that.

2318
02:23:21,410 --> 02:23:27,090
He's sort of winding down as far as the company has been sent. I don't know whether or not his

2319
02:23:27,090 --> 02:23:32,190
family wanted to continue or not, but he himself wanted to continue, but as far as...

2320
02:23:32,570 --> 02:23:33,770
None of that stuff's my concern.

2321
02:23:33,930 --> 02:23:34,110
Right.

2322
02:23:35,310 --> 02:23:40,690
But he wanted to continue, so it's like, okay, we can still use him, but now

2323
02:23:40,690 --> 02:23:43,230
I can really use him with that because of his license.

2324
02:23:44,470 --> 02:23:46,190
So last question, it's legally.

2325
02:23:46,610 --> 02:23:49,230
So that layer of it, financially,

2326
02:23:49,470 --> 02:23:52,930
if we took down a tree and that someone questioned legally,

2327
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:56,050
that would be the financial, you know, blue key stuff.

2328
02:23:56,850 --> 02:24:01,210
Is that something that we're trying to avoid?

2329
02:24:01,350 --> 02:24:06,350
Yeah, it's not only that, but it's also a case of, I just

2330
02:24:06,350 --> 02:24:13,450
say we make a bad call on a tree that you call up the tree in front of my house

2331
02:24:13,450 --> 02:24:19,870
blah blah blah all right now Aggie or whoever trees perfectly healthy it's

2332
02:24:19,870 --> 02:24:23,770
not the wrong district now all of a sudden that night are we gonna storm

2333
02:24:23,770 --> 02:24:29,970
that you comes down in your house all right this way here by having okay the

2334
02:24:29,970 --> 02:24:39,670
two experts in agriculture. Okay, I'm making the call that yes or no. And what can make

2335
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:43,590
the call that we have to that's right. But again, we're very fortunate, particularly

2336
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:48,330
not only have it, but also I meant for the price. So it's worth worth a layer. Oh, absolutely.

2337
02:24:48,630 --> 02:24:52,310
Trying to get like I said, trying to get 80,000, we'll set you up an 80,000 for an

2338
02:24:52,310 --> 02:24:57,830
actual certified average. And it goes beyond the age of working out of us, right?

2339
02:24:57,830 --> 02:25:06,270
Okay, no, absolutely. He just doesn't sit there at point. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, he's great

2340
02:25:06,270 --> 02:25:11,790
Yeah, I was wondering why he had a sizable contract with the city. So I didn't realize he was

2341
02:25:12,490 --> 02:25:14,510
You know decreasing his yeah

2342
02:25:16,570 --> 02:25:18,590
Okay, any other questions regarding parties

2343
02:25:20,470 --> 02:25:21,390
Thank you

2344
02:25:28,290 --> 02:25:35,130
So as of May 31st, he made $40,850.

2345
02:25:35,650 --> 02:25:37,910
And if they get a contract, that's not from calendar.

2346
02:25:38,410 --> 02:25:41,070
January 1st, it's from September of last year.

2347
02:25:41,210 --> 02:25:45,550
OK, so it's spread out from September 2018 to May 31st.

2348
02:25:47,050 --> 02:25:49,390
$40,850 for the hours.

2349
02:25:51,090 --> 02:25:53,430
OK, we're going to forestry?

2350
02:25:54,850 --> 02:25:55,390
Moving on.

2351
02:25:55,750 --> 02:25:56,910
A normal good, but we're alone.

2352
02:25:56,910 --> 02:26:01,490
I mean, good as far as, there are no further, let me clarify, there are no further questions

2353
02:26:01,490 --> 02:26:02,750
regarding forestry.

2354
02:26:03,790 --> 02:26:05,670
Okay, moving on to water and sewer.

2355
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:09,990
We should have done it, we should have gone first.

2356
02:26:11,470 --> 02:26:13,130
You know, that's not fair.

2357
02:26:14,470 --> 02:26:15,710
He's always here first.

2358
02:26:16,350 --> 02:26:17,150
Okay, water and sewer.

2359
02:26:17,330 --> 02:26:20,570
He was expecting an ex-singer, I guess.

2360
02:26:21,790 --> 02:26:26,550
2019 appropriation for personal services, $1,749,878.

2361
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:31,930
fiscal year 2020 request $1,747,711.

2362
02:26:32,490 --> 02:26:38,610
Ordinary expenses, 2019 appropriation, $22,105,002.

2363
02:26:39,880 --> 02:26:45,690
2020 request for ordinary services, $22,421,154.

2364
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:56,590
So let's look at this slide increasing utilities, office equipment.

2365
02:26:56,590 --> 02:27:05,060
The apparent maintenance sidewalks has a significant increase to 326,000.

2366
02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:10,000
Decrease in hydrants, decrease in catch basins,

2367
02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:17,740
slight increase in building repairs, maintenance,

2368
02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:26,340
significant decrease in storm water.

2369
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:28,940
The President, just while we're going through it.

2370
02:27:28,940 --> 02:27:29,140
Yes.

2371
02:27:29,700 --> 02:27:32,740
Just the catch basins, because I asked them to be at the department.

2372
02:27:32,740 --> 02:27:35,220
Is this for repair?

2373
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:37,580
That's for cleaning.

2374
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:38,260
Clean.

2375
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:39,020
Clean.

2376
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:46,960
In case the supply contract it gave us clean catch basins, 4,000 catch basins and about $50 for catches.

2377
02:27:47,380 --> 02:27:49,260
Right, and that covers the entire city?

2378
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:49,860
Yeah.

2379
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:51,100
Is there a zero?

2380
02:27:51,400 --> 02:27:56,980
Give it a take, one or two, my 4,555 catch basins.

2381
02:27:57,180 --> 02:28:01,300
That includes catch basins even in the parking lot, the school parking lots.

2382
02:28:01,300 --> 02:28:05,700
It's just not the streets, but it's everything.

2383
02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:10,360
They still use the colored marking system when they do the catch basin?

2384
02:28:10,580 --> 02:28:12,880
Yeah, each year, and that changes from year to year.

2385
02:28:13,160 --> 02:28:16,240
One year could be fluorescent green, okay,

2386
02:28:16,460 --> 02:28:17,940
and make sure you have fluorescent yellow.

2387
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:20,580
Every year, they are changed.

2388
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:23,880
So that way, we know whether or not it's clean or not.

2389
02:28:24,540 --> 02:28:29,140
And most generally, we have somebody with the contractor daily.

2390
02:28:29,140 --> 02:28:36,700
So that way, we know he's actually going to the bottom of the valve cleaning it and not just taking the top off.

2391
02:28:37,300 --> 02:28:37,820
Okay.

2392
02:28:40,140 --> 02:28:40,660
Yeah.

2393
02:28:42,220 --> 02:28:43,140
Okay, thank you.

2394
02:28:45,320 --> 02:28:46,280
Councilor Caviello.

2395
02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:48,140
Are we doing the mosquito...

2396
02:28:49,060 --> 02:28:50,020
We're doing it now.

2397
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:51,860
Yeah, as it's being directed.

2398
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,880
That's as it is said through the border health.

2399
02:28:56,620 --> 02:28:58,240
But it is being done as we speak.

2400
02:28:59,280 --> 02:28:59,800
Spring.

2401
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:04,640
How many areas do we spray?

2402
02:29:06,260 --> 02:29:06,740
Or do we spray?

2403
02:29:07,140 --> 02:29:09,180
No, not spray. I mean catch basin.

2404
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:11,520
Like spray spray.

2405
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:16,760
You're treating the catch basins for mosquitoes.

2406
02:29:18,540 --> 02:29:21,540
Is every single catch basin cleaned on a yellow basis?

2407
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:25,140
We have a broken-up spray as well.

2408
02:29:25,880 --> 02:29:29,100
If you do some of this, Frank, you'll do half an hour.

2409
02:29:30,980 --> 02:29:35,340
The reason for that is if it's not here, the fiscal is because of what?

2410
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:37,840
The middle of the winter we don't clean the bases.

2411
02:29:38,480 --> 02:29:38,620
Okay.

2412
02:29:39,960 --> 02:29:40,540
Cartel night?

2413
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:41,720
Contracted services.

2414
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:45,200
Looks like it's going to get $350,000 in contracted services.

2415
02:29:45,460 --> 02:29:47,400
Down $75,000 from last year.

2416
02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:48,780
Can you go over that for me please?

2417
02:29:48,780 --> 02:29:49,940
It's

2418
02:29:58,640 --> 02:29:59,600
5-3-8-0.

2419
02:30:04,660 --> 02:30:12,640
That's a clearer maintenance. That's $18,000. Then we have the doodling street pump, which is $20,000.

2420
02:30:13,500 --> 02:30:21,440
We do want to have flow height to adjust between the big TRV, that's pressure, reduce avail, and that's about $10,000.

2421
02:30:22,120 --> 02:30:29,480
Then we use Weston-Sanson, they do the VAC flow, and that contract is $51,580.

2422
02:30:29,480 --> 02:30:32,300
And then we want rapid flow coming in and that's about,

2423
02:30:35,420 --> 02:30:37,500
he said about $20,000.

2424
02:30:38,060 --> 02:30:38,920
What's rapid flow?

2425
02:30:39,100 --> 02:30:46,200
So rapid flow is, there's a big industrial drain cleaning company.

2426
02:30:46,500 --> 02:30:48,700
In addition to that, they have the cameras.

2427
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:52,680
So that way if we need a line camera, run a throat.

2428
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:59,460
These are services that I normally and customarily performed in-house and

2429
02:30:59,460 --> 02:31:05,800
truck worth about 450,000, okay, to do what they do are, and that's only on an as-leave lease.

2430
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:06,780
Only needed another 100,000.

2431
02:31:07,980 --> 02:31:13,020
Can we get a breakdown of the contracted services and what they're going to pay for throughout the entire department?

2432
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:14,440
The entire department.

2433
02:31:14,440 --> 02:31:18,740
The department, on the line at the highway department, the cemetery, all the contracted services,

2434
02:31:18,940 --> 02:31:22,920
and what they are, the figure, and what that figure represents as to what service is going to be provided.

2435
02:31:23,320 --> 02:31:25,160
Do you want to ask for last year?

2436
02:31:25,300 --> 02:31:25,680
Exactly.

2437
02:31:25,880 --> 02:31:27,780
Can I get it all, and they just threw it away?

2438
02:31:28,740 --> 02:31:31,280
So you want an item I have less to...

2439
02:31:31,280 --> 02:31:31,540
Okay.

2440
02:31:32,060 --> 02:31:33,800
So the whole DPW...

2441
02:31:33,800 --> 02:31:34,760
DPW, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2442
02:31:35,500 --> 02:31:38,040
Clifton, could you get that for the question?

2443
02:31:38,320 --> 02:31:38,700
Thank you.

2444
02:31:40,460 --> 02:31:42,600
Any questions regarding water and sewer?

2445
02:31:42,820 --> 02:31:44,620
Just catch, face and repair.

2446
02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:46,140
Does that fall under?

2447
02:31:46,780 --> 02:31:49,060
We would catch, face and repair and fall under.

2448
02:31:49,620 --> 02:31:51,740
Has it fallen line at 1,015?

2449
02:31:53,620 --> 02:31:54,100
5255?

2450
02:31:57,180 --> 02:31:59,720
Is that the $200,000 one?

2451
02:32:00,460 --> 02:32:02,420
The $200,000.

2452
02:32:02,420 --> 02:32:05,760
I thought that was just for cleaning.

2453
02:32:07,420 --> 02:32:08,060
That's prepared.

2454
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:11,420
That's catch basin supplies in the contractor.

2455
02:32:14,010 --> 02:32:16,670
Catch basin supplies, which is they need a catch basin.

2456
02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:18,770
No, but I'm talking about repair of catch basins.

2457
02:32:18,970 --> 02:32:19,650
It's in there.

2458
02:32:20,730 --> 02:32:22,430
Well, they do it.

2459
02:32:22,510 --> 02:32:24,650
We do it. We do that in-house.

2460
02:32:24,650 --> 02:32:35,610
But if we needed to do a ring and cover, if we need the castings or he needs covers, gate boxes, and chimneys, that's the account that comes out.

2461
02:32:35,790 --> 02:32:37,630
It's basically the materials for it.

2462
02:32:37,910 --> 02:32:38,010
Right.

2463
02:32:38,630 --> 02:32:47,790
So we've found that by even though it's a store process, by rebuilding these catch basins in-house, they'll last a lot longer than they've done.

2464
02:32:48,330 --> 02:32:48,830
Absolutely.

2465
02:32:48,830 --> 02:32:56,090
So and I know there's all different levels of repair of catch basins, but I can tell you first-hand

2466
02:32:56,090 --> 02:33:01,730
I've seen a lot that are major repair major malfunction that are really sinking

2467
02:33:01,730 --> 02:33:09,110
Yeah, and what does it cost for one that's major repair like when you have to go and build the

2468
02:33:09,110 --> 02:33:11,830
infrastructure below on the catch base?

2469
02:33:13,230 --> 02:33:15,150
So you guys don't do that

2470
02:33:15,150 --> 02:33:17,390
No, no, I wonder who we're going to be doing water.

2471
02:33:17,690 --> 02:33:19,270
Well, that's why we went on the highway.

2472
02:33:19,610 --> 02:33:21,170
So spawn drains are highway.

2473
02:33:21,710 --> 02:33:25,630
Catch basin cleaning and the maintenance of the spawn drainage system,

2474
02:33:25,990 --> 02:33:27,310
the city is under highway.

2475
02:33:27,970 --> 02:33:28,150
Right.

2476
02:33:28,390 --> 02:33:29,490
In the water budget.

2477
02:33:29,710 --> 02:33:30,970
OK, in the water budget.

2478
02:33:31,230 --> 02:33:35,790
Right, so this $200,000 pays for catch basin repair.

2479
02:33:36,310 --> 02:33:37,270
Supplies, right.

2480
02:33:37,570 --> 02:33:37,810
Supplies.

2481
02:33:38,090 --> 02:33:39,710
Like if they buy any new catch basin.

2482
02:33:40,150 --> 02:33:42,330
Where's the repair?

2483
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:44,510
OK, that's lame up.

2484
02:33:44,510 --> 02:33:47,590
that's done by in-house highway department.

2485
02:33:47,770 --> 02:33:50,390
Right, and when I asked the highways, they said no, it's under water and sewer.

2486
02:33:50,750 --> 02:33:52,250
Well, for the materials, the materials.

2487
02:33:52,430 --> 02:33:53,610
No, no, catch basin repair.

2488
02:33:53,850 --> 02:33:54,050
Okay.

2489
02:33:54,470 --> 02:33:54,590
Yeah.

2490
02:33:54,910 --> 02:33:55,910
Catch basin repair.

2491
02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:57,650
It's under highway.

2492
02:33:58,170 --> 02:33:58,470
So how much, right?

2493
02:33:58,790 --> 02:33:59,890
I mean, we come out of that.

2494
02:34:00,510 --> 02:34:02,210
Materials in the water, labor is high.

2495
02:34:02,330 --> 02:34:05,670
Right, so I was looking for how much we spend on catch basin repair.

2496
02:34:06,130 --> 02:34:06,490
Okay.

2497
02:34:06,490 --> 02:34:08,950
And I waited for sewer because you said it was under sewer.

2498
02:34:09,070 --> 02:34:09,390
Oh, okay.

2499
02:34:09,750 --> 02:34:11,090
That would be under the payroll.

2500
02:34:11,530 --> 02:34:11,890
Okay.

2501
02:34:14,490 --> 02:34:21,950
Every job is different and, you know, you never know from year to year, I can give you an average cost.

2502
02:34:22,310 --> 02:34:27,950
I can give you a cost of a complete rebuild and I can give you an average cost of a partial rebuild.

2503
02:34:28,210 --> 02:34:30,790
So how many catch basins right now do we have?

2504
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:32,010
Well, 3,000.

2505
02:34:32,110 --> 02:34:32,490
3,000.

2506
02:34:32,810 --> 02:34:34,310
How many are needed to repair?

2507
02:34:35,010 --> 02:34:36,130
Okay, shooting from the hip.

2508
02:34:36,470 --> 02:34:40,250
All right, I'll venture the guess is probably maybe 400 out there, 300.

2509
02:34:40,930 --> 02:34:47,690
Okay, that some form even if it just settled a little bit it's got to be rebuilt up to break

2510
02:34:47,690 --> 02:34:53,050
I think it's I think it's a low estimate, but that's only my opinion well

2511
02:34:53,050 --> 02:35:00,310
I'd rather be I see just in my neighborhood three or four just in the square block that are falling in right literally

2512
02:35:00,890 --> 02:35:02,510
Like you could put your foot in there

2513
02:35:03,290 --> 02:35:04,010
It's bad

2514
02:35:11,130 --> 02:35:15,430
So what are our plans to address these three or four hundred catch basins?

2515
02:35:15,450 --> 02:35:24,030
Okay, when we have a crew available, we know we can, on a daily or weekly basis, or whatever.

2516
02:35:24,030 --> 02:35:33,170
I mean, you know, like, well, Friday, Friday, I had the crew that I had in from

2517
02:35:33,170 --> 02:35:38,870
Ohio, they were reviewing one of the Columbus School. I redo my class space.

2518
02:35:40,050 --> 02:35:46,270
So it's like, when I get the crew, you know, it's like, it's a real priority.

2519
02:35:46,770 --> 02:35:50,450
That was near school. That's a priority. They're out there, they're legal.

2520
02:35:50,450 --> 02:35:53,450
So, at what point would we subcontract out of that?

2521
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:55,210
We don't.

2522
02:35:55,690 --> 02:35:59,710
And quite honestly, I don't know if I would or not

2523
02:35:59,710 --> 02:36:02,990
we've had Basin's rebuilt by contractors.

2524
02:36:04,030 --> 02:36:04,230
All right?

2525
02:36:04,530 --> 02:36:06,630
And the ones right now that got plates on them

2526
02:36:06,630 --> 02:36:09,810
were rebuilt in recent years by contractors

2527
02:36:09,810 --> 02:36:12,730
that have collapsed because of shoddy workmanship.

2528
02:36:14,190 --> 02:36:15,910
If they had something out there, they'd be easy.

2529
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:16,710
All right?

2530
02:36:17,950 --> 02:36:19,610
No, do it this way, not that way.

2531
02:36:20,570 --> 02:36:22,350
That's basically what it comes down to.

2532
02:36:23,530 --> 02:36:28,410
Is that the type of contract we're hiring or is that just the question?

2533
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:29,250
They're all like that.

2534
02:36:29,470 --> 02:36:30,530
They're all like that.

2535
02:36:31,050 --> 02:36:33,170
They don't take any pride in what they're doing.

2536
02:36:34,450 --> 02:36:36,810
They don't particularly catch basins.

2537
02:36:38,130 --> 02:36:39,890
It's, again, it's not a med-finition.

2538
02:36:40,650 --> 02:36:43,490
I've talked to the guys with the Mass DOT.

2539
02:36:44,090 --> 02:36:45,750
They go out of their mind.

2540
02:36:46,310 --> 02:36:48,830
They rebuild basins right here in Mystic Valley Park.

2541
02:36:48,830 --> 02:36:50,750
We just stepped in the conch shell last year.

2542
02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:53,170
They collapsed it already, not even a year old.

2543
02:36:53,550 --> 02:36:55,310
They've done, and they've done out-hubs.

2544
02:36:56,770 --> 02:36:59,090
They want to mean quarters, that's what they want to be done.

2545
02:36:59,970 --> 02:37:01,170
They got to do so many a day.

2546
02:37:03,260 --> 02:37:06,000
My only concern is that where we have so many,

2547
02:37:06,280 --> 02:37:07,900
we're never going to get a handle on this.

2548
02:37:08,860 --> 02:37:10,580
And it's great to do them in-house,

2549
02:37:11,060 --> 02:37:13,000
and it seems that's the preferred method.

2550
02:37:13,480 --> 02:37:15,320
But how are we going to address these 300 or 400?

2551
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:16,740
There's some out there.

2552
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:18,580
There's one on Riverside Ave I've reported

2553
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:23,780
ten times already. I think the cost can go into it. That's how deep it is.

2554
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:24,280
I know.

2555
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:27,640
So it's a real safety concern.

2556
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:31,060
I just don't think we're doing it.

2557
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:36,880
It all goes back to, I mean, in an ideal world, if I had the DPW,

2558
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:41,560
strictly just doing catch faces, nothing else could never be done.

2559
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:44,280
It's an aging infrastructure.

2560
02:37:44,880 --> 02:37:45,080
Right.

2561
02:37:45,080 --> 02:37:52,920
And the two or three or four hundred that are out there today, there's another two or three or four hundred waiting to go right behind you.

2562
02:37:53,260 --> 02:37:57,460
But you would need, again, a massive pot.

2563
02:37:57,700 --> 02:38:00,860
But we really don't have, like you said, shooting at the hip.

2564
02:38:01,180 --> 02:38:05,100
We really haven't gone around and itemized these, right?

2565
02:38:05,520 --> 02:38:06,800
Oh, we have a list.

2566
02:38:07,220 --> 02:38:12,800
So we have a full list of either ones the constituents have called in, possibly our numbers of accounts.

2567
02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:18,800
I mean, we have a list, as well as our own isoneas, all right?

2568
02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:23,560
So we have a running list that we keep and we address as we go on.

2569
02:38:23,880 --> 02:38:24,060
Yes.

2570
02:38:25,180 --> 02:38:27,960
So we know what we have to do.

2571
02:38:28,560 --> 02:38:31,000
The ones missing on the list are the tiddlers,

2572
02:38:31,540 --> 02:38:32,740
like trees and everything else.

2573
02:38:33,220 --> 02:38:34,700
I know we don't have everything.

2574
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:38,400
But we have a list of every commodity category,

2575
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:43,300
or potholes, trees, sidewalks, and so whatever you have.

2576
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:45,560
Whichever category you want me to draw, just computer.

2577
02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:46,500
Right.

2578
02:38:47,220 --> 02:38:48,340
To the chair, just on that,

2579
02:38:48,660 --> 02:38:51,720
is this of these lists open to the public?

2580
02:38:51,960 --> 02:38:52,320
I mean, do we?

2581
02:38:52,980 --> 02:38:53,880
Oh yeah, yeah.

2582
02:38:54,220 --> 02:38:56,220
We've had a lot of times met a vice president,

2583
02:38:56,340 --> 02:38:59,960
people that have been on a list for a particular

2584
02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:03,260
that will leave a call, or in some cases will come in.

2585
02:39:03,820 --> 02:39:05,640
All right, and in either way,

2586
02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:15,440
The ladies will address them and we'll repeat back to them all the information they provided to us

2587
02:39:15,440 --> 02:39:18,440
and show that we have proof we didn't blow them off.

2588
02:39:18,880 --> 02:39:22,060
But do we have it on either our?

2589
02:39:22,700 --> 02:39:23,320
Spreadsheets.

2590
02:39:23,480 --> 02:39:24,020
Spreadsheets.

2591
02:39:24,180 --> 02:39:26,080
They're not on the website.

2592
02:39:26,160 --> 02:39:27,940
They should be on the website.

2593
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:33,720
I know the mayor's office controls are reversed, the 311 system.

2594
02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:41,960
But how far do we go, council, because it would give your name, your address, your telephone

2595
02:39:41,960 --> 02:39:42,660
number.

2596
02:39:43,400 --> 02:39:45,300
You know, we put that on the city website.

2597
02:39:46,420 --> 02:39:48,420
You don't have to add the name and number.

2598
02:39:48,580 --> 02:39:50,200
You can just add what's on the list.

2599
02:39:50,480 --> 02:39:51,180
The date was requested.

2600
02:39:51,340 --> 02:39:53,320
Yeah, it was a one or five in priority.

2601
02:39:53,780 --> 02:39:56,400
And so people know, oh, geez, mine's the only thing.

2602
02:39:56,700 --> 02:39:59,800
Well, you can see the thing isn't actually physically categorized.

2603
02:39:59,900 --> 02:40:00,500
You can eyeball.

2604
02:40:01,320 --> 02:40:02,540
But to really what extent?

2605
02:40:02,900 --> 02:40:03,700
To what extent?

2606
02:40:03,700 --> 02:40:09,060
cover and jump in the hole. You don't know how far down you have to go. On average, a

2607
02:40:09,060 --> 02:40:13,420
minimum four feet. Alright, but in some cases you may have to go the bottom of the

2608
02:40:13,420 --> 02:40:19,140
belt and that's ten. How many catchphrases do we still have connected to the sewer system?

2609
02:40:20,660 --> 02:40:26,800
Alright, Dan, I don't know. Tim, do you know that? How many catchphrases do we still have connected to the sewer system?

2610
02:40:28,420 --> 02:40:33,500
I don't know the number off the top of my head. At this point there are roads and we may not know about it. I don't think

2611
02:40:33,500 --> 02:40:34,760
We have any known connections.

2612
02:40:35,140 --> 02:40:35,240
Yep.

2613
02:40:35,680 --> 02:40:37,380
There's a couple of the heads, that's probably it.

2614
02:40:37,560 --> 02:40:40,060
So we addressed, because there was a known list.

2615
02:40:41,080 --> 02:40:43,680
There was a smoke test done back some years ago.

2616
02:40:43,920 --> 02:40:45,120
And they did them, they were taking them.

2617
02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:47,380
Yeah, but there's still some outstanding.

2618
02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:48,580
Yeah, up the heads.

2619
02:40:48,980 --> 02:40:50,180
But they don't have drainage.

2620
02:40:51,540 --> 02:40:53,860
That's why it's tied into the sewer.

2621
02:40:54,080 --> 02:40:56,840
No other way to do it, unless they run me off.

2622
02:40:57,300 --> 02:40:58,240
One mile down the street.

2623
02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:00,940
So every time it rains, that's going out.

2624
02:41:01,140 --> 02:41:02,480
And we're treating that as raw sewage.

2625
02:41:02,480 --> 02:41:03,140
That's right.

2626
02:41:03,660 --> 02:41:04,660
That's cost us.

2627
02:41:05,220 --> 02:41:06,600
There ain't too many out here, though.

2628
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:08,600
Well, there was a number.

2629
02:41:08,960 --> 02:41:14,420
When I started at a brief time, and we had a lot of them, and I, you know, in Kirkman

2630
02:41:14,420 --> 02:41:18,160
Brown, most of them were dressed in something way, with a few handovers, because we don't

2631
02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:19,080
have plates to tie into.

2632
02:41:20,400 --> 02:41:21,840
So is that being looked at?

2633
02:41:22,600 --> 02:41:23,540
It's all part of II.

2634
02:41:23,860 --> 02:41:24,780
So that's all part of II.

2635
02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:25,680
No, but are we going to...

2636
02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:27,200
I mean, these have been existing for years.

2637
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:27,740
Sure,

2638
02:41:31,060 --> 02:41:31,520
sure.

2639
02:41:31,520 --> 02:41:37,120
I feel like first you're right into the sewer system, rather than making the proper connections.

2640
02:41:37,740 --> 02:41:40,220
Do we have any plans to make the proper connections? I know it's expensive.

2641
02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:45,220
Sure, I don't have any plans drawn and ready to go. Right.

2642
02:41:45,620 --> 02:41:49,100
Any other questions

2643
02:41:52,180 --> 02:41:53,220
regarding water and sewer?

2644
02:41:57,660 --> 02:42:00,400
Can I make a general statement on DPW in general?

2645
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:01,520
Yeah.

2646
02:42:01,960 --> 02:42:02,580
Right away.

2647
02:42:05,080 --> 02:42:13,740
You made a statement earlier in the day about the raging agent force, and obviously it's

2648
02:42:13,740 --> 02:42:14,380
not getting better.

2649
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:17,960
We're having a problem hiring people.

2650
02:42:18,780 --> 02:42:22,460
You know, your biggest obstacle going forward is personnel.

2651
02:42:26,860 --> 02:42:44,480
I would think, to be my suggestion, that between yourself and the First House Director and maybe someone else, some type of commission would be formed, a community would be formed to find some type of aggressive plan to bring some people on to your department.

2652
02:42:44,940 --> 02:42:50,920
And we do the training program or something, but yours is the most understaffed department in the whole city.

2653
02:42:51,820 --> 02:42:58,560
And again, until we, until we actually go out and really devise an aggressive plan,

2654
02:42:59,880 --> 02:43:01,500
the decision to be in some serious problems.

2655
02:43:02,000 --> 02:43:04,880
But I don't think we never even think about that.

2656
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:10,180
So I'm going to say, you guys do open above what people are asking, doing.

2657
02:43:10,180 --> 02:43:12,500
And you say, you're always putting on fires all the time.

2658
02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:19,700
Eventually, that's going to start, because you're just going to run out, you're just going to burn because there's so many fires going on.

2659
02:43:19,820 --> 02:43:23,800
So again, that would be my suggestion to make part of the report that some type of commission

2660
02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:29,700
be formed to start an aggressive plan to hire people,

2661
02:43:29,940 --> 02:43:35,140
but whether we train them or do something, but it's going to be done and done soon.

2662
02:43:36,020 --> 02:43:38,220
Thank you, Councilor Caviello, Council on Heights.

2663
02:43:38,300 --> 02:43:40,640
And I just want to thank Commissioner Carrots for his work.

2664
02:43:41,320 --> 02:43:44,460
Staffing levels are something I get a little worked up about sometimes.

2665
02:43:44,740 --> 02:43:50,400
And I think it's important to recognize that in FY18 we have 46 boots on the ground,

2666
02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:55,820
DBW workers, and FY19 we have 49, and now in the FY20 budget we're looking at 53.

2667
02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:59,240
So it's not like things are falling on deaf ears and I do appreciate the work you do, Brian.

2668
02:43:59,340 --> 02:44:04,280
I know I can be a little aggressive sometimes when it comes down to this stuff and I do want to thank you for the work you do.

2669
02:44:04,280 --> 02:44:09,200
I do appreciate the work you do, and, you know, I apologize for getting a little worked up.

2670
02:44:09,540 --> 02:44:11,280
The broadshelves is out, and you know that.

2671
02:44:11,920 --> 02:44:12,080
Okay.

2672
02:44:12,640 --> 02:44:13,460
The politics is good.

2673
02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:14,440
Thank you for that.

2674
02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:15,340
Thank you.

2675
02:44:16,540 --> 02:44:18,200
Thank you for all of your hard work.

2676
02:44:18,360 --> 02:44:19,000
Appreciate it.

2677
02:44:19,560 --> 02:44:22,620
Thank you to each of the departments of being here today.

2678
02:44:22,820 --> 02:44:24,580
Thank you for being here on a Saturday.

2679
02:44:26,280 --> 02:44:29,500
Thank you very much.

2680
02:44:29,500 --> 02:44:34,100
I appreciate that.

2681
02:44:34,100 --> 02:44:35,360
Thank you, Dave. Thank you.

2682
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:37,060
Thank you.

2683
02:44:37,420 --> 02:44:38,440
Thank you, thank you.

2684
02:44:38,660 --> 02:44:39,980
Happy to be in our five days.

2685
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:40,400
Thank you.

2686
02:44:40,540 --> 02:44:41,240
I get on that right.

2687
02:44:42,180 --> 02:44:42,580
Wait a second.

2688
02:44:43,160 --> 02:44:44,120
Did you know what notary?

2689
02:44:44,700 --> 02:44:45,340
What the...

2690
02:44:45,340 --> 02:44:45,920
Park of the driveway.

2691
02:44:46,360 --> 02:44:47,040
Right on the road.

2692
02:44:48,180 --> 02:44:48,560
I know that.

2693
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:49,880
That's my right to a much better.

2694
02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:50,820
Chat over to some water.

2695
02:44:51,260 --> 02:44:51,820
Thank you.

2696
02:44:52,000 --> 02:44:52,300
Thank you.

2697
02:44:52,500 --> 02:44:53,280
The weekend's a big year.

2698
02:44:53,720 --> 02:44:55,060
Show slow things and notary.

2699
02:44:55,700 --> 02:44:56,500
Chief Spockley.

2700
02:44:56,620 --> 02:44:57,420
Okay, close up the watch.

2701
02:44:58,000 --> 02:44:58,400
Sarah.

2702
02:44:58,740 --> 02:44:59,540
I appreciate your advice.

2703
02:45:08,910 --> 02:45:16,570
It's all based on seniority. It hangs up in that chair. That's a little chair. You're going to go down in a minute.

2704
02:45:16,990 --> 02:45:18,410
I have to answer that. I'll take you up.

2705
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:19,090
Yeah, no.

2706
02:45:21,170 --> 02:45:23,030
This is great. My neck was hurt.

2707
02:45:23,050 --> 02:45:24,470
That's a hot seat. He wants to be in the crowd.

2708
02:45:26,190 --> 02:45:28,230
You got the short chair and I'm so short of that.

2709
02:45:32,510 --> 02:45:39,070
So next up is the Chief of Police, Chief Buckley, this is our first time on the first budget.

2710
02:45:39,430 --> 02:45:40,890
So we have four years this morning.

2711
02:45:45,980 --> 02:45:48,560
First budget presentation, Chief. Congratulations.

2712
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:52,600
Oh, we've got to hold on. I've got my questions ready.

2713
02:45:52,620 --> 02:45:54,080
I think you have a text and I want a front.

2714
02:45:54,380 --> 02:45:54,780
You want to get that?

2715
02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:56,560
Can I paraphrase that?

2716
02:45:56,800 --> 02:45:57,580
You want me to stop?

2717
02:45:58,000 --> 02:45:58,940
Absolutely, don't want to.

2718
02:45:58,940 --> 02:46:01,100
I'm probably not sure if you're going to read it, I know you've all said this.

2719
02:46:01,980 --> 02:46:04,480
But thanks to the police department, I think it's going very well.

2720
02:46:05,700 --> 02:46:09,180
So the largest changes that we've seen obviously start with myself.

2721
02:46:09,700 --> 02:46:13,060
And the police chief is replacing a 28-year-old...

2722
02:46:13,060 --> 02:46:14,500
Yeah, the police chief is not easy.

2723
02:46:15,220 --> 02:46:17,360
It comes with some changes and some modifications,

2724
02:46:17,700 --> 02:46:21,740
but we are transitioning and things are going smoothly.

2725
02:46:22,620 --> 02:46:26,160
Part of the personnel in the last fiscal year,

2726
02:46:26,160 --> 02:46:29,640
we've lost six to retirement and two officers resigned.

2727
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:31,720
One of those officers is technically transferred

2728
02:46:31,720 --> 02:46:33,980
to the fire department and moved them to the fire side.

2729
02:46:35,260 --> 02:46:38,260
We've also added, graduated from the Academy,

2730
02:46:38,500 --> 02:46:41,020
14 police officers, five of them were new highs

2731
02:46:41,020 --> 02:46:42,180
in this past fiscal year.

2732
02:46:42,960 --> 02:46:45,400
Currently as we stand, personnel wise,

2733
02:46:45,900 --> 02:46:48,160
we're down six officers.

2734
02:46:48,920 --> 02:46:52,520
We'll lose two more to mandated retirement in July,

2735
02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:55,100
one in September and one in February.

2736
02:46:55,560 --> 02:46:58,600
So that will all be coming up in this fiscal year.

2737
02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:05,640
Those are mandated retirement, so we don't know if anyone else may announce as they go forward.

2738
02:47:06,800 --> 02:47:13,060
Some of the exciting things going on at the police station is, you all see, we have broken ground in the police station, we're very happy with that.

2739
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:16,280
It seems to be going smoothly.

2740
02:47:17,060 --> 02:47:21,640
All our concerns at this point in time have been addressed as far as I'm concerned properly.

2741
02:47:21,640 --> 02:47:24,020
We have our new substation out in the parking lot there.

2742
02:47:24,120 --> 02:47:26,460
So we're running a patrol operation out of there.

2743
02:47:26,560 --> 02:47:29,760
Just gives us more space at the current police

2744
02:47:29,760 --> 02:47:31,140
station for the construction.

2745
02:47:32,240 --> 02:47:35,620
One of the things we started early on in my 10 years

2746
02:47:35,620 --> 02:47:37,340
of police chief is a recruitment process.

2747
02:47:38,120 --> 02:47:40,540
I know you just spent some time talking

2748
02:47:41,220 --> 02:47:42,640
in DPW about the hiring.

2749
02:47:42,860 --> 02:47:44,360
But law enforcement around the state

2750
02:47:44,360 --> 02:47:47,460
is also experiencing difficulty in hiring.

2751
02:47:47,460 --> 02:47:55,100
And while we seem to do okay in the civil service list with producing lists every single

2752
02:47:55,100 --> 02:48:00,080
time for residents, we certainly would like a more diverse police force.

2753
02:48:00,260 --> 02:48:05,940
So we spent some time with the opposite diversity in Osborne and myself when we opened up two

2754
02:48:05,940 --> 02:48:10,720
recruitments and we had several sessions where members of the community came in here,

2755
02:48:10,720 --> 02:48:15,040
We gave them lessons on the practice tests and exams

2756
02:48:15,040 --> 02:48:18,280
and tried to prepare them better for taking the test.

2757
02:48:18,420 --> 02:48:20,960
And we're trying to just basically in an easy way

2758
02:48:20,960 --> 02:48:23,340
to say, we want you to join our police force.

2759
02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:27,360
And we're hoping that that yields a lot of success.

2760
02:48:27,740 --> 02:48:30,520
It brings a more diverse department to the city

2761
02:48:30,520 --> 02:48:34,220
and that on top of that, sort of a larger changes

2762
02:48:34,220 --> 02:48:36,900
and most successful operation changes over the last few

2763
02:48:36,900 --> 02:48:39,320
years of police department has to bend what we are

2764
02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:41,180
in the Health and Human Services Office.

2765
02:48:41,940 --> 02:48:44,800
That is staffed basically, if any of you

2766
02:48:44,800 --> 02:48:46,340
work with Detective Robert Lockowitz,

2767
02:48:46,540 --> 02:48:50,940
but he is tied in with the opioid crisis

2768
02:48:50,940 --> 02:48:52,500
and, well, the mental health crisis

2769
02:48:52,500 --> 02:48:53,800
that is going on throughout the state

2770
02:48:53,800 --> 02:48:57,000
and, more specifically, the city of Medford.

2771
02:48:57,620 --> 02:48:59,680
You've seen, over the past several years,

2772
02:48:59,880 --> 02:49:01,580
cities like Cambridge and Summelville

2773
02:49:01,580 --> 02:49:04,540
have come up to bring together this crisis

2774
02:49:04,540 --> 02:49:12,460
crisis intervention teams. Well, Penny and Rory, myself, Lieutenant KC, Chief Sackle and a lot

2775
02:49:12,460 --> 02:49:18,120
positive to this created the unit within the police department. We are fast becoming one of the

2776
02:49:19,540 --> 02:49:27,500
most productive and well respected unit in the entire state as a place to that. I hope Penny

2777
02:49:27,500 --> 02:49:32,440
and Rory go to other cities and towns about training now. I have given a commitment of

2778
02:49:32,440 --> 02:49:36,540
of training all of our offices 100% on crisis intervention

2779
02:49:36,540 --> 02:49:42,040
training that goes above and beyond mental health emergency

2780
02:49:42,040 --> 02:49:43,480
training for the offices.

2781
02:49:43,820 --> 02:49:46,040
And so we've been through that process now in the last year

2782
02:49:46,400 --> 02:49:47,360
in training.

2783
02:49:49,420 --> 02:49:51,380
Internally, we have done some things

2784
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:57,740
that have focused on addressing some of the sliding,

2785
02:50:01,780 --> 02:50:08,660
where the city gets to be more busy for the police departments and so that has also helped

2786
02:50:08,660 --> 02:50:13,100
alleviate some of our old defense concerns and we've redesigned our patrol sector.

2787
02:50:13,560 --> 02:50:16,740
We've sexually run an east side, west side now on a city wide cap.

2788
02:50:17,160 --> 02:50:21,020
I know traditionally a lot of you have heard the police department talk about a sector

2789
02:50:21,020 --> 02:50:25,000
one, a sector two, a sector three, a four, so now we're running east side, west side

2790
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:25,980
and city-wide cars.

2791
02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:28,600
It allows us to be able to put more,

2792
02:50:28,920 --> 02:50:31,540
we're experiencing a lot of busy times on the east side,

2793
02:50:31,600 --> 02:50:33,320
it allows us to shift operations there

2794
02:50:33,320 --> 02:50:34,380
and be able to control coverage,

2795
02:50:34,700 --> 02:50:35,900
while at the same time maintaining

2796
02:50:35,900 --> 02:50:37,220
the west side coverage for that.

2797
02:50:38,160 --> 02:50:40,320
The, we have increased our traffic unit,

2798
02:50:40,640 --> 02:50:42,420
traffic division, where before we had,

2799
02:50:43,020 --> 02:50:45,480
we were running a day operation with a sergeant

2800
02:50:45,480 --> 02:50:49,160
and two to three traffic officers on the day shift.

2801
02:50:49,260 --> 02:50:50,540
We're now running both day shift

2802
02:50:50,540 --> 02:50:52,120
and what we refer to as first half,

2803
02:50:52,120 --> 02:50:54,940
that's 330 to 1130 on same numbers.

2804
02:50:55,500 --> 02:50:58,460
So I'm sorry, not same numbers, it's double numbers.

2805
02:50:58,560 --> 02:50:59,940
So we'd have two traffic sergeants

2806
02:50:59,940 --> 02:51:05,280
and six traffic enforcement officers on top of that.

2807
02:51:07,600 --> 02:51:10,040
And recently we finally got around

2808
02:51:10,040 --> 02:51:13,160
and accomplished what I think is one of the best things

2809
02:51:13,160 --> 02:51:15,900
going to hide a crime analyst who has vast experience.

2810
02:51:16,920 --> 02:51:18,660
I know that I was before the council recently,

2811
02:51:18,820 --> 02:51:20,620
we asked for numbers in St. Haines Square.

2812
02:51:20,620 --> 02:51:23,180
we have this Rob McIntyre, he came over here,

2813
02:51:23,280 --> 02:51:24,440
Sebastian Spanish from Walden,

2814
02:51:24,700 --> 02:51:26,260
and he can produce numbers for us,

2815
02:51:26,740 --> 02:51:30,820
and he's helping us to be able to identify war areas

2816
02:51:30,820 --> 02:51:31,860
where we can produce numbers.

2817
02:51:32,220 --> 02:51:34,760
I hope to expand the reporting system

2818
02:51:34,760 --> 02:51:35,560
throughout the city

2819
02:51:38,020 --> 02:51:39,520
through prime analyst reports

2820
02:51:39,520 --> 02:51:41,240
and daily reports and activity.

2821
02:51:41,560 --> 02:51:44,160
So everything, I say everything is going well,

2822
02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:45,160
it's a police department, right?

2823
02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:46,240
So we have our rubs and downs,

2824
02:51:47,380 --> 02:51:53,140
But publicly, I'm sure we'll talk about this, the biggest issue I think right now, and probably

2825
02:51:53,140 --> 02:51:54,300
hasn't been for years is traffic.

2826
02:51:54,920 --> 02:51:55,940
We're doing our best.

2827
02:51:56,260 --> 02:51:59,540
We have police officers out there.

2828
02:52:00,640 --> 02:52:03,580
And one thing I can't do is to even place a bankhouse just to be in the ocean.

2829
02:52:03,580 --> 02:52:05,120
I wish I could let them come in.

2830
02:52:05,260 --> 02:52:07,680
But my offices have been addressing it.

2831
02:52:07,760 --> 02:52:10,840
We've been open and responsive so far to the community as it relates to that.

2832
02:52:12,240 --> 02:52:15,380
It's just going to be a busy summer as far as traffic goes in the city.

2833
02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:20,660
Because when we stand any specific questions as far as the budget goes,

2834
02:52:20,760 --> 02:52:23,580
we're relatively level funded, give or take,

2835
02:52:23,720 --> 02:52:26,520
and there's not much in the way of major changes.

2836
02:52:28,360 --> 02:52:32,320
A large part of that is due to what was already discussed earlier by the mayor,

2837
02:52:32,480 --> 02:52:34,260
and that's the hiring of civilian dispatches.

2838
02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:38,040
We graduated 11 on Friday.

2839
02:52:38,040 --> 02:52:41,180
They're going to begin training on Tuesday here.

2840
02:52:41,760 --> 02:52:44,380
We are anticipating having three more,

2841
02:52:44,580 --> 02:52:46,540
a total of 14 civilian dispatches.

2842
02:52:47,240 --> 02:52:50,460
So two of them are in line and we still need to hire one more.

2843
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:52,400
Those civilian dispatches will be funded

2844
02:52:52,400 --> 02:52:55,840
and cover all of those inside 911 positions.

2845
02:52:56,040 --> 02:52:57,900
And it frees up nine positions for me

2846
02:52:57,900 --> 02:52:58,880
as far as police officers.

2847
02:52:59,720 --> 02:53:04,280
So they help tremendously to be able to do two things.

2848
02:53:04,280 --> 02:53:08,560
One, cover any additional, say, overlapping,

2849
02:53:08,940 --> 02:53:11,560
and it shouldn't really impact all the time numbers.

2850
02:53:11,800 --> 02:53:14,040
But in addition, I can now stop thinking about

2851
02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:16,820
once we do new hires, different divisions.

2852
02:53:16,980 --> 02:53:19,660
I want to add offices to that Health and Human Services

2853
02:53:19,660 --> 02:53:20,880
unit that we've talked about.

2854
02:53:21,240 --> 02:53:22,280
We have other plans for,

2855
02:53:22,800 --> 02:53:25,980
we definitely need a few more detectives.

2856
02:53:26,920 --> 02:53:29,040
But in addition to traffic,

2857
02:53:29,240 --> 02:53:31,700
I'd love to continue to expand the traffic unit.

2858
02:53:32,080 --> 02:53:33,280
One of my wish lists ultimately

2859
02:53:33,280 --> 02:53:40,460
is to hire an inspection services officer and so those are all sort of on the list of

2860
02:53:40,460 --> 02:53:46,080
things to do in the future and but we're comfortable right now with looking at the

2861
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:50,940
budget and we're way out of numbers because of the major transition with the dispatches and

2862
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:58,620
it's been somewhat busy and I take the plan for this but the mayor has been knocking on the

2863
02:53:58,620 --> 02:54:02,620
door about hiring new officers so it's nice to say that there's a commitment from the city

2864
02:54:02,620 --> 02:54:07,320
from all around to continue to hire us and maintain us at 112 offices and by doing

2865
02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:12,180
that I'm going to get some more offices in the Academy and when they come up we

2866
02:54:12,180 --> 02:54:15,820
can start adding additional services. Trying to keep up with retirements is

2867
02:54:16,300 --> 02:54:21,680
difficult at times because you know what it's all age-based for us at 65 we

2868
02:54:21,680 --> 02:54:25,740
have to retire and so not even when started at a certain age and we just

2869
02:54:25,740 --> 02:54:28,780
happen to be going through this couple of years where this is lodging on the

2870
02:54:28,780 --> 02:54:34,400
to be tied. You have to leave at the end of the month that you turn 65. So keep

2871
02:54:34,400 --> 02:54:50,900
up with that. It's going to be a challenge over the next few years. I'm hiring, but so far I think we're doing a good job. We've got five training offices out there now. They should finish their field training program mid-July and we'll have more in the academy as we go forward.

2872
02:54:53,140 --> 02:55:03,780
Thank you very much. Chief, first of all, welcome aboard. I know that you've been serving in the capacity now for several months and I'd be lying if I say I wasn't happy with what I'd seen out there in the community.

2873
02:55:04,200 --> 02:55:10,480
I've been to a couple of the community police and meetings. You do a great job for those community police and meetings. You're really engaged with people.

2874
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:17,120
You know, one of the most important things you said was that you want people to understand that there's a human being inside that uniform that you wear.

2875
02:55:17,240 --> 02:55:21,620
It's not just a police officer, but there's a human being in there and you're a person that people can come and talk to.

2876
02:55:22,040 --> 02:55:24,560
I really appreciate the vision that you have for the department.

2877
02:55:24,740 --> 02:55:27,120
I think you're doing a great job, you know.

2878
02:55:27,480 --> 02:55:29,300
It's very exciting time for the Metro Police Department.

2879
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:36,480
Right now, we're finally going to see the fruits of our labor with a new police station and with that new building comes a new chief.

2880
02:55:36,480 --> 02:55:40,940
So this transition time is something that people expressed a lot of concern about.

2881
02:55:41,140 --> 02:55:45,400
And I think that in so far as the time that's passed since your appointment,

2882
02:55:45,940 --> 02:55:47,520
the transition has been relatively seamless.

2883
02:55:48,040 --> 02:55:49,320
So thank you for your work.

2884
02:55:49,580 --> 02:55:50,540
Thank you for what you're doing.

2885
02:55:50,540 --> 02:55:50,960
I know.

2886
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:59,760
And a couple of things you said about the recruitment of offices that are going to be reflective of the population in this community.

2887
02:55:59,980 --> 02:56:03,300
Maya Burke gave her budget statement that she was here earlier in the morning.

2888
02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:05,380
I think she said that our city is at about 40% minority.

2889
02:56:06,160 --> 02:56:07,780
I know that through the civil service process,

2890
02:56:07,900 --> 02:56:09,740
we do have the ability to pull a minority list.

2891
02:56:10,460 --> 02:56:12,840
That's something that I'd ask that you might want to consider or investigate.

2892
02:56:13,860 --> 02:56:18,400
Secondly, you talked about east-west sides of the city,

2893
02:56:18,520 --> 02:56:21,440
as opposed to sector-based patrols with city-wide units as well.

2894
02:56:22,180 --> 02:56:24,500
Can you just tell me what the delineating factor is from east to west?

2895
02:56:25,560 --> 02:56:26,320
What do you use?

2896
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:27,920
Use 93, do you use?

2897
02:56:28,720 --> 02:56:30,660
So that is still based on the traditional?

2898
02:56:33,400 --> 02:56:36,680
So in the past sector 1 and sector 4 were the east side, all right?

2899
02:56:36,780 --> 02:56:42,800
So sector 1 would be, say, anywhere from the middle of the mall,

2900
02:56:42,880 --> 02:56:47,380
Mr. Gabb type area, and sweep all the way over to Salim Street, Haines Square.

2901
02:56:47,600 --> 02:56:50,680
If you drew, like, a pie line all the way down into Medford Square,

2902
02:56:51,120 --> 02:56:55,800
sector 4 would be Haines Square all the way up through North Medford

2903
02:56:55,800 --> 02:56:58,480
and over to Governor's Ave, say, down there.

2904
02:56:58,480 --> 02:57:04,620
Sector two would go from governance to have all the way back to weather of

2905
02:57:04,620 --> 02:57:12,300
street right right around that area up in the hillside and then sector three

2906
02:57:12,300 --> 02:57:16,920
would be from hillside all the way back down to the square and this side of

2907
02:57:16,920 --> 02:57:22,020
Mr. Gap police station. So that is the traditional sector one two or three

2908
02:57:22,020 --> 02:57:25,220
sector one or four was east side so that would maintain the same. You could

2909
02:57:25,220 --> 02:57:31,640
We basically say it's going to govern us out all the way to the metal bone wall in Mr. Gaby area, and then the west side will be here.

2910
02:57:31,740 --> 02:57:34,460
Governors out east and governors out west, yeah, Governors out to Dillenita.

2911
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:35,380
Excellent, thank you.

2912
02:57:35,400 --> 02:57:43,920
So there wasn't much of a transition in trying to explain that to officers because traditionally we knew one at four, east side counts, two at three, four at west side counts.

2913
02:57:44,340 --> 02:57:50,620
And I think that the council has had a lot to say about traffic, council has had a lot to say about congestion, and now we look at this budget and

2914
02:57:50,620 --> 02:57:56,160
a budget that has 100% increase in the resources that you're dedicating to the traffic control

2915
02:57:56,160 --> 02:58:00,300
division. So, you know, you hear what we're saying. I really don't have much of a problem with this

2916
02:58:00,300 --> 02:58:04,640
budget at all. It looks like for the first time since I've been to Council, Harry McGilvery isn't

2917
02:58:04,640 --> 02:58:09,880
here. So, I mean, he must be doing something right. I don't want to speak for Harry. Maybe

2918
02:58:09,880 --> 02:58:13,860
he's busier at the baseball field. But, you know, I rest my case, Chief. I just wanted to

2919
02:58:13,860 --> 02:58:15,680
mention those two items. And thank you for your work.

2920
02:58:15,920 --> 02:58:17,220
No, I appreciate it. Thank you.

2921
02:58:17,220 --> 02:58:47,180
Thank you, Councilor Marks. Chief, vehicle replacement. Yes, what's the current plan? Current plans for nine vehicles to be coming to the police department, four will be within the next month or two and then five additional. The additional five will be for line cars and patrol cruises. And we need a prisoner transport wagon. They'll be the night that was coming up. The five, I'll say the first four and then the additional five, that's going to be capital money

2922
02:58:47,180 --> 02:58:54,240
and the other four were coming out of the G-Elect project and the idea behind that is

2923
02:58:54,240 --> 02:58:58,140
with this increased traffic we have to assure that the police can respond,

2924
02:58:58,520 --> 02:59:03,360
emergency can respond quickly. The G-Elect is able to fund some of this so we can have it.

2925
02:59:03,680 --> 02:59:07,160
So when we put those detail officers out there they're going to have fully loaded

2926
02:59:07,160 --> 02:59:11,320
cruises with emergency supplies and be able to respond to emergencies should

2927
02:59:11,980 --> 02:59:16,480
you know, ambulance fire, who's to be able to, you know, get brought down in traffic.

2928
02:59:16,820 --> 02:59:17,900
It's one of the major concerns.

2929
02:59:18,120 --> 02:59:23,000
So we're going to keep them posted out there all the time, running and be able to respond from,

2930
02:59:23,800 --> 02:59:28,920
if you would assume, say, that the traffic at GLS causes, you know, boundary

2931
02:59:28,920 --> 02:59:33,220
from the police station response that we would be on the other side to be able to respond.

2932
02:59:34,020 --> 02:59:44,620
And, um, neighborhood policing, what are you seeing with neighborhood policing and policing bicycles as a method of neighborhood policing?

2933
02:59:45,300 --> 02:59:56,180
So, I would always say yes. The community policing is the ground floor philosophy of policing almost everywhere in the world.

2934
02:59:56,720 --> 02:59:59,140
We've carried it on in a sense. I mean, I came on.

2935
03:00:03,300 --> 03:00:19,960
It's the philosophy that we follow under that. Put in bikes out, I wrote a bike in the city of Bethany. It's a functionality. It is a process that we would like to do. We are just now catching up with additional bodies. We have to run patrol cars and we have to keep up the date.

2936
03:00:19,960 --> 03:00:24,240
Canine has been very successful, and traffic units are a high priority now to increase.

2937
03:00:24,740 --> 03:00:31,120
But to be able to put offices, additional office out there on bicycles is a great idea, it's

2938
03:00:31,120 --> 03:00:35,720
a great plan, because we want to increase our face time with the members of the community.

2939
03:00:35,980 --> 03:00:37,840
That's one of the easier ways to do it.

2940
03:00:38,240 --> 03:00:39,880
And some communities do it.

2941
03:00:40,200 --> 03:00:41,980
Cut does come down to a sensible manpower.

2942
03:00:42,120 --> 03:00:45,860
When you put a police officer on a bicycle, he's an area of responsibility,

2943
03:00:45,860 --> 03:00:49,760
or the area that he can respond to at a certain period of time is limited.

2944
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:56,440
So to take them out of the cruiser, to do some controls, we may get to that point.

2945
03:00:56,560 --> 03:01:01,240
One of the thoughts we have had in the past is in purchasing new bikes,

2946
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:03,340
because I was a really old at this point in time,

2947
03:01:03,380 --> 03:01:06,100
you know, you could put them onto a cruiser,

2948
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:08,240
and when your cruiser pulls over in a section of the neighborhood,

2949
03:01:08,480 --> 03:01:10,460
we know the bike can ride around for a little bit of time.

2950
03:01:10,800 --> 03:01:13,380
And we know when our busy times, I don't know,

2951
03:01:13,380 --> 03:01:16,580
less busy times can be, and we can implement some of those

2952
03:01:16,580 --> 03:01:17,100
no-dusts.

2953
03:01:17,140 --> 03:01:19,360
It's a great concept, but it fits in right in with what

2954
03:01:19,360 --> 03:01:22,460
we're trying to do in policing, is to get one of that.

2955
03:01:22,540 --> 03:01:23,980
I always hate to use the term FaceTime,

2956
03:01:24,100 --> 03:01:26,460
because it's now become like a technology term.

2957
03:01:26,720 --> 03:01:29,240
But it's personal time with individuals.

2958
03:01:29,500 --> 03:01:31,240
Every time we go up and interact with the public,

2959
03:01:32,640 --> 03:01:34,640
our new philosophy as police departments

2960
03:01:34,640 --> 03:01:36,880
is to spend more time talking to each individual.

2961
03:01:37,180 --> 03:01:38,960
They learn so much more, and I think they

2962
03:01:38,960 --> 03:01:40,740
get to understand a lot more about policing.

2963
03:01:40,740 --> 03:01:42,580
And bicycles are certainly awaited.

2964
03:01:43,240 --> 03:01:46,420
I think it's a big asset because, as you said,

2965
03:01:46,580 --> 03:01:48,000
I think the face-time is important.

2966
03:01:48,820 --> 03:01:51,840
And you're all too often, you do see a police car drive by,

2967
03:01:52,080 --> 03:01:53,200
but you see it just drive by.

2968
03:01:54,020 --> 03:01:56,340
And I think that personal touch really goes a long way.

2969
03:01:57,120 --> 03:01:59,760
One of the current assistance chief over the years

2970
03:01:59,760 --> 03:02:03,400
that I've heard from some of the ranking file offices

2971
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:06,700
is the fact that there's not a lot of cross-cringing.

2972
03:02:07,160 --> 03:02:08,800
So you may have someone that's been in patrol

2973
03:02:08,800 --> 03:02:15,540
for 15 or 20 years that say, I'd like to be a detective or try that out for a year or

2974
03:02:15,540 --> 03:02:20,360
two or three or four. See if I like it. And it's not a lot of that happening. And I was

2975
03:02:20,360 --> 03:02:27,280
just wondering under your leadership, do you plan on allowing for more cross-training and

2976
03:02:27,280 --> 03:02:33,000
room for growth? And I think it's healthy when you do do cross-training.

2977
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:36,380
There's a number of ways to answer that question for us is, which office does it belong to?

2978
03:02:39,080 --> 03:02:39,740
You're a detective.

2979
03:02:40,080 --> 03:02:40,520
Oh, I know.

2980
03:02:42,180 --> 03:02:43,880
I was just going to see if you'd like to tell me that.

2981
03:02:44,040 --> 03:02:44,600
No, no, no.

2982
03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:45,540
I don't give up that easy.

2983
03:02:45,720 --> 03:02:49,580
The reality of this is we

2984
03:02:51,750 --> 03:02:54,530
train a tremendous amount of times.

2985
03:02:54,830 --> 03:02:59,730
And you only have so many hours and so much money to train.

2986
03:02:59,870 --> 03:03:00,970
There are certain priorities.

2987
03:03:01,530 --> 03:03:06,430
We're focused on right now the health and human services types of training, the critical

2988
03:03:06,430 --> 03:03:09,450
incident training, the mental health first aid.

2989
03:03:09,950 --> 03:03:15,450
I want to introduce next is the bias training or implicit bias training.

2990
03:03:15,610 --> 03:03:16,330
We're going to get all those.

2991
03:03:16,670 --> 03:03:18,030
We also need to do 40 hours.

2992
03:03:18,430 --> 03:03:23,290
Each officer 40 hours a year in-service mandated training to do on top of that.

2993
03:03:23,930 --> 03:03:26,410
So we train a lot.

2994
03:03:26,410 --> 03:03:32,010
And in every piece of that, an officer gets training related to something, say, a patrol

2995
03:03:32,010 --> 03:03:33,730
officer gets detective sort of training.

2996
03:03:34,690 --> 03:03:40,390
But the detective training, I was so technical, I don't want to give away a lot of secrets here,

2997
03:03:40,410 --> 03:03:44,090
but a lot of, you know, detectives, you'll, you know, you put on the hat and you get

2998
03:03:44,090 --> 03:03:47,630
your magnifying glass, that doesn't exist, it's all very highly technical.

2999
03:03:47,970 --> 03:03:51,210
It's about your whole life is in your form, right, and we need to, it's about writing

3000
03:03:51,210 --> 03:03:55,730
search warrants and getting that time. We have spent time spending, spending patrol

3001
03:03:55,730 --> 03:04:01,810
office search warrant writing school and that has proven to be some success

3002
03:04:01,810 --> 03:04:06,730
when officers take it up on their own, but the classes are very expensive. You

3003
03:04:06,730 --> 03:04:13,030
invest a lot of time in those and you know it gets to be a dollar personnel

3004
03:04:13,030 --> 03:04:16,030
thing back and forth. We have to spend a lot of time training

3005
03:04:16,030 --> 03:04:19,510
We have to spend a lot of time trying to control different things.

3006
03:04:20,610 --> 03:04:22,230
They're the same, but they're different.

3007
03:04:22,630 --> 03:04:29,150
And so you can't, I could not guarantee that I could train every officer in control to be a detective.

3008
03:04:30,170 --> 03:04:33,490
We possibly wouldn't have the time and all the money to do it.

3009
03:04:34,990 --> 03:04:36,570
But, I understand what you're saying.

3010
03:04:36,850 --> 03:04:40,190
We need to be a more well-rounded community and police department.

3011
03:04:40,190 --> 03:04:45,410
I think is the priorities, if I give a training one,

3012
03:04:45,550 --> 03:04:48,130
I'm going to be geared towards the public.

3013
03:04:49,590 --> 03:04:52,510
Preventing things like bias, recruitment into policing,

3014
03:04:52,730 --> 03:04:57,330
preventing or having the tools to address the mental health crisis,

3015
03:04:57,790 --> 03:05:00,030
or the substance use disorder crisis.

3016
03:05:01,230 --> 03:05:03,850
So, while I appreciate some of my offices,

3017
03:05:04,150 --> 03:05:07,450
they're training left and right over and over again,

3018
03:05:07,910 --> 03:05:12,650
training to what I believe right now is what we need and how to deal with the

3019
03:05:12,650 --> 03:05:18,790
public. And when we do go to adding additional detectives, for example, and

3020
03:05:18,790 --> 03:05:23,870
other things, we train them very, very well. And there are people who've gone

3021
03:05:23,870 --> 03:05:27,210
up to detectives and stayed there a long period of time. I get that. There are other

3022
03:05:27,210 --> 03:05:30,770
detectives who've gone up and left. They've taken that training back with a lot of control.

3023
03:05:31,950 --> 03:05:37,930
so I get the message understood and it's always kind of in my brain to go

3024
03:05:37,930 --> 03:05:42,890
forward when we're doing it but I really think we need to take our time and work

3025
03:05:42,890 --> 03:05:47,990
on those people. I'm sure you're aware you've probably worked with offices and

3026
03:05:47,990 --> 03:05:52,010
the cast that have gone on public communities, larger communities because

3027
03:05:52,010 --> 03:05:55,610
they were looking for some type of advancement which they weren't able to get there.

3028
03:05:55,830 --> 03:05:59,630
I realize we're a small department but I think those opportunities to keep

3029
03:05:59,630 --> 03:06:06,650
people 100% you know in-house and especially good people I think we've

3030
03:06:06,650 --> 03:06:12,950
lost offices to Cambridge to Boston and they have to compete with that

3031
03:06:15,670 --> 03:06:21,430
and you know cross-training them we have we've done tremendous amounts of

3032
03:06:21,430 --> 03:06:27,550
training we put together a I don't want to call a SWAT team but if you like a

3033
03:06:27,550 --> 03:06:30,590
where we put that, and that's for an active response team.

3034
03:06:30,730 --> 03:06:32,630
It is a lot of training that goes into that.

3035
03:06:35,170 --> 03:06:38,790
Aggressive, active shooter and aggressive suspect training

3036
03:06:38,790 --> 03:06:41,930
and a lot of the ranking file patrol officers

3037
03:06:41,930 --> 03:06:44,310
are trained in that.

3038
03:06:44,530 --> 03:06:49,050
That has produced a lot of feeling in the department

3039
03:06:49,050 --> 03:06:50,910
that there's something different

3040
03:06:50,910 --> 03:06:52,250
that's something out there for them.

3041
03:06:52,590 --> 03:06:55,770
So 100% understood, that's something we are working for.

3042
03:06:57,550 --> 03:06:59,770
Like I said, there's some basics that the new chief

3043
03:06:59,770 --> 03:07:01,470
that I have to kind of deal with them.

3044
03:07:01,730 --> 03:07:02,670
It's the way the police department's

3045
03:07:02,670 --> 03:07:03,810
going to operate and go forward.

3046
03:07:04,250 --> 03:07:06,810
And then additionally, we can look toward those ideas here.

3047
03:07:07,310 --> 03:07:08,750
Just one other point.

3048
03:07:10,210 --> 03:07:13,390
With Casino coming on board, the city

3049
03:07:13,950 --> 03:07:15,770
gets roughly $1 million a year.

3050
03:07:16,270 --> 03:07:18,370
Part of it, it's airmarked to public safety.

3051
03:07:19,230 --> 03:07:21,190
Have you realized any of that money yet?

3052
03:07:22,130 --> 03:07:24,770
I know it hasn't come in yet in some political Casino

3053
03:07:24,770 --> 03:07:29,210
open but do you have anything planned for the money that you I have nothing

3054
03:07:29,210 --> 03:07:34,770
planned yet do you know how much I do not know yet but I'm like I'll tell you

3055
03:07:34,770 --> 03:07:40,630
and you'll see this for always once I know I have ideas in my head for a

3056
03:07:40,630 --> 03:07:45,630
lot of things I've already kind of indicated them you're gonna bring a

3057
03:07:45,630 --> 03:07:49,630
casino close to the city of Medford that health and human services division

3058
03:07:49,630 --> 03:07:51,670
and has to expand and close the plan assembly.

3059
03:07:52,730 --> 03:07:54,770
No, there's nothing else that could really

3060
03:07:54,770 --> 03:07:56,870
dance around on my end of it, but we'll be careful.

3061
03:07:57,410 --> 03:07:59,450
And Chief, this is prior to you,

3062
03:07:59,690 --> 03:08:03,870
but Chief Sackle was working on a city-wide

3063
03:08:03,870 --> 03:08:04,870
urban parking plan.

3064
03:08:05,170 --> 03:08:05,450
Yes.

3065
03:08:05,850 --> 03:08:07,150
Back some years ago.

3066
03:08:07,710 --> 03:08:08,870
We even hired a consultant.

3067
03:08:09,610 --> 03:08:11,170
Consultant came in, made recommendations,

3068
03:08:11,410 --> 03:08:13,730
part of the recommendations were to start off

3069
03:08:13,730 --> 03:08:16,350
with a pilot program and self-method in the hillside.

3070
03:08:16,350 --> 03:08:19,530
That was probably a year and a half, two years ago,

3071
03:08:19,830 --> 03:08:21,050
the recommendations were made.

3072
03:08:22,050 --> 03:08:24,850
Where do we stand, coming from the Wellington Circle

3073
03:08:24,850 --> 03:08:27,950
perspective, I know when you mentioned the different sectors,

3074
03:08:28,170 --> 03:08:29,310
you didn't really go out to Wellington,

3075
03:08:29,530 --> 03:08:31,350
but there's another little neighborhood.

3076
03:08:31,870 --> 03:08:34,170
Well, you know there's included Wellington.

3077
03:08:34,310 --> 03:08:35,750
It's not Malden, but it's Method.

3078
03:08:36,670 --> 03:08:40,730
It's a little further away, but where do we stand,

3079
03:08:40,830 --> 03:08:43,010
because people are real concerned with the loss

3080
03:08:43,010 --> 03:08:49,870
of the parking spots now in Wellington at Station Landing that are able to become a

3081
03:08:49,870 --> 03:08:54,850
parking lot. And we're real concerned with this resident permit parking, I think, really

3082
03:08:54,850 --> 03:08:57,830
needs to be explored and enacted.

3083
03:08:58,430 --> 03:09:03,170
Overwhelmingly, especially since I've been working on the traffic commission, we've heard these

3084
03:09:03,170 --> 03:09:10,210
concerns about resident parking and what to do. I'm just now getting my feet wet a

3085
03:09:10,210 --> 03:09:14,150
a little bit on it but I'm now trying to jump into it and really learn the process and

3086
03:09:14,150 --> 03:09:19,450
whether or not we get to a pilot program up and running as far as I still have to work

3087
03:09:19,450 --> 03:09:23,130
with Charlie Hutton. It's been a blessing I now have Sergeant Larry Rogers in traffic

3088
03:09:23,130 --> 03:09:28,750
and with the traffic commissioners, we're going to look at that and address that but

3089
03:09:28,750 --> 03:09:34,530
I'm speaking from behind. I really haven't got myself up to date on that because it's

3090
03:09:34,530 --> 03:09:38,350
a little busy the first five months and I do a lot of those other things. But

3091
03:09:38,350 --> 03:09:41,570
But yeah, we'll definitely take a look at it.

3092
03:09:41,690 --> 03:09:44,550
But it's been on, I've been approached on the subject.

3093
03:09:45,070 --> 03:09:47,110
We definitely have to deal with and address it.

3094
03:09:47,390 --> 03:09:49,070
It's just one of those things that is not

3095
03:09:49,070 --> 03:09:50,570
been done yet and will be.

3096
03:09:50,730 --> 03:09:52,350
So you're familiar with the recommendations?

3097
03:09:52,810 --> 03:09:55,970
I have not seen and read the full recommendations yet now.

3098
03:09:56,310 --> 03:09:57,410
But I know they're up there.

3099
03:09:57,530 --> 03:09:59,490
I know what the subject matter is.

3100
03:09:59,550 --> 03:10:01,110
It just has not been addressed already yet.

3101
03:10:01,990 --> 03:10:04,690
And I just want to thank you also

3102
03:10:04,690 --> 03:10:06,190
as Council might mention that

3103
03:10:06,190 --> 03:10:09,810
And we've been very attentive to the issues that I've brought forward.

3104
03:10:10,790 --> 03:10:14,930
And police mediation, I think, we could expand upon that.

3105
03:10:16,390 --> 03:10:19,750
I get a number of calls where you may have neighbors that are in conflict.

3106
03:10:20,170 --> 03:10:23,330
And it's great to be able to have the ability to have an office to go out.

3107
03:10:23,730 --> 03:10:29,090
And mediate some concerns that could be done on the local level to address issues.

3108
03:10:29,850 --> 03:10:35,030
And I think if that gets expanded a little bit, that will also help put a face to the police.

3109
03:10:35,030 --> 03:10:37,890
I agree with you, and I think it falls right into what we were talking about earlier,

3110
03:10:38,210 --> 03:10:40,350
you're spending time with the community and talking to them.

3111
03:10:40,530 --> 03:10:42,590
And it's not an issue in the neighborhood community type.

3112
03:10:42,730 --> 03:10:44,990
Police can equal out there and you see what you can do to resolve it.

3113
03:10:45,270 --> 03:10:47,310
Because ultimately it saves us all, right?

3114
03:10:47,410 --> 03:10:49,550
So it's a parking issue and you can resolve that parking issue.

3115
03:10:50,590 --> 03:10:54,510
We might feel three less calls in the next month because of this.

3116
03:10:54,530 --> 03:10:55,110
That's absolutely.

3117
03:10:56,030 --> 03:10:56,430
100%.

3118
03:10:56,430 --> 03:10:58,510
In fact, I appreciate it.

3119
03:10:59,010 --> 03:11:01,050
Thank you, Councilor Carriero.

3120
03:11:01,410 --> 03:11:02,090
Thank you, Mr. President.

3121
03:11:02,850 --> 03:11:04,150
Chief of Santa Cran.

3122
03:11:04,690 --> 03:11:08,990
Yes. Do we have an expert in the department that handles cybercrime?

3123
03:11:09,190 --> 03:11:11,030
We do. Who would that be? Larry James.

3124
03:11:13,190 --> 03:11:16,470
Are we planning on expanding that upon that end?

3125
03:11:17,030 --> 03:11:19,010
Will Larry have lunch with you yesterday or something?

3126
03:11:19,230 --> 03:11:19,390
No.

3127
03:11:22,810 --> 03:11:29,650
But, you know, that seems to be a growing sector of crime zones.

3128
03:11:31,410 --> 03:11:37,030
100% of that and I kind of alluded to it and not given up some of the secrets and it's

3129
03:11:37,030 --> 03:11:40,670
not really secrets like toy when I say that but, so Larry James has been doing this for

3130
03:11:40,670 --> 03:11:46,350
a long period of time and he has a lot of the certifications and expertise.

3131
03:11:46,990 --> 03:11:53,570
We are just getting him back online with doing technological work with phones or say

3132
03:11:53,570 --> 03:11:55,150
The iPad is a computer that work.

3133
03:11:55,950 --> 03:11:58,730
Keeping his certifications up, he had to kind of get back up,

3134
03:11:59,170 --> 03:12:01,990
get his equipment and software back up to date.

3135
03:12:02,310 --> 03:12:04,850
We're now online and he comes in whenever we need him

3136
03:12:04,850 --> 03:12:05,670
for those purposes.

3137
03:12:06,130 --> 03:12:09,070
Right now it's not rated for a full-time position,

3138
03:12:09,330 --> 03:12:10,470
even though we use it a lot.

3139
03:12:11,150 --> 03:12:14,230
What happens is there's a lot of our major

3140
03:12:15,770 --> 03:12:18,370
crime investigations, like in tail-using,

3141
03:12:18,570 --> 03:12:20,290
say, state police, district attorney's office.

3142
03:12:20,650 --> 03:12:22,690
A federal agency is something along those lines

3143
03:12:22,690 --> 03:12:25,410
who also will be taking over those duties as far as so.

3144
03:12:26,610 --> 03:12:30,230
That's 100% technology is going towards the future,

3145
03:12:30,650 --> 03:12:35,330
and we need to expand that, but he is our expert right now, and we use him when we need him.

3146
03:12:35,830 --> 03:12:41,610
Are we planning on expanding that with civilian personnel? How about those type of issues?

3147
03:12:42,330 --> 03:12:47,150
We are. There's, you know, I started and talked about the crime analyst,

3148
03:12:47,270 --> 03:12:51,330
and that does follow the technology, because they'll be able to pull the stats up for us in locations,

3149
03:12:51,330 --> 03:12:54,270
and it's also helped with predictive policing, right?

3150
03:12:54,410 --> 03:12:55,810
I mean, when you know what's happening in the past

3151
03:12:55,810 --> 03:12:57,810
and you just look at what your statistics are,

3152
03:12:58,730 --> 03:13:01,730
it looks towards the future of how you can plan policing

3153
03:13:01,730 --> 03:13:04,210
and events, but we also have a position

3154
03:13:04,210 --> 03:13:06,390
that's funded in there that hasn't been built yet,

3155
03:13:06,510 --> 03:13:08,390
and that's the, I was just looking to see

3156
03:13:08,390 --> 03:13:09,190
what we're actually calling it,

3157
03:13:09,230 --> 03:13:13,870
the IT, IT technician to work with our tech unit

3158
03:13:13,870 --> 03:13:16,030
that's in there, Lieutenant Calruso,

3159
03:13:16,490 --> 03:13:18,350
officer of tender blocks, we also run that.

3160
03:13:18,970 --> 03:13:21,090
Once we are able to get that position

3161
03:13:21,090 --> 03:13:24,110
Phil, he's going to bring a lot of the expertise that he or she

3162
03:13:24,110 --> 03:13:25,050
has to get, honestly.

3163
03:13:25,210 --> 03:13:27,830
They're going to bring it into that unit and help us out.

3164
03:13:32,550 --> 03:13:35,010
We have a need to keep up with technology,

3165
03:13:35,750 --> 03:13:39,850
and we're doing that at a successful pace right now.

3166
03:13:40,570 --> 03:13:42,590
The good news is that in some 18 months,

3167
03:13:42,730 --> 03:13:43,910
we're going to enter a modern building,

3168
03:13:44,230 --> 03:13:46,810
and a lot of those issues will be addressed for us also

3169
03:13:46,810 --> 03:13:48,050
and to bring in those technologies.

3170
03:13:48,490 --> 03:13:49,510
So, I don't understand.

3171
03:13:49,510 --> 03:13:56,690
And as far as the schools go, where will we, with precious management for the schools

3172
03:13:56,690 --> 03:13:59,050
and in the event that there would be an issue?

3173
03:13:59,370 --> 03:14:03,950
So we have recently been meet well. We've met several times with the superintendent

3174
03:14:04,330 --> 03:14:07,670
and her staff. I've addressed the number of their administrative meetings.

3175
03:14:08,470 --> 03:14:13,270
Lieutenant Paul Camino has been meeting just with City Hallsville with the schools,

3176
03:14:13,270 --> 03:14:22,950
But we are setting up regular meetings on those plans with the school administration on safety and critical plans that are in place.

3177
03:14:23,370 --> 03:14:34,330
Is there plans to go to the schools and maybe have something about, similar to the old fire drills, but some type of drills at each school?

3178
03:14:34,510 --> 03:14:35,210
One of them.

3179
03:14:35,310 --> 03:14:39,030
So the children know and the teachers know how to respond to these things?

3180
03:14:39,230 --> 03:14:40,130
A large part of that.

3181
03:14:40,130 --> 03:14:44,530
Yeah, we didn't want that to happen here, but, yeah, you know, it seems that we didn't.

3182
03:14:44,630 --> 03:14:47,910
So there's two phases, that's one, I've already addressed with the superintendent,

3183
03:14:48,130 --> 03:14:52,350
we talked about this summer getting most of my police officers familiar with the schools.

3184
03:14:52,550 --> 03:14:55,890
We want to assure that they know the layout of the schools,

3185
03:14:56,370 --> 03:14:59,030
and if in high school it can be kind of tricky sometimes if you walk to it.

3186
03:14:59,330 --> 03:14:59,890
So that's sort of.

3187
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:10,740
Raise one, get our offices. Any responding emergency personnel, firefighters, and EMS familiar with the school senate and all of them.

3188
03:15:11,260 --> 03:15:16,400
The second part of that is a little bit tricky. We have Alice trained offices, we have alert trained offices.

3189
03:15:16,920 --> 03:15:21,880
That really comes down to a school, whether it's the school committee or the superintendent schools, making decisions on that.

3190
03:15:21,880 --> 03:15:24,260
what they want trained in their schools.

3191
03:15:24,880 --> 03:15:30,460
I can't impose my self into their policies in the program.

3192
03:15:30,720 --> 03:15:32,720
So we're ready and we assist the superintendent

3193
03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:34,600
at all times with whatever she needs.

3194
03:15:35,360 --> 03:15:37,160
And we have a great relationship,

3195
03:15:37,560 --> 03:15:39,260
but those sorts of issues have to be addressed

3196
03:15:39,260 --> 03:15:40,120
on the other side of the road.

3197
03:15:40,400 --> 03:15:41,600
You know what, thank you for,

3198
03:15:42,440 --> 03:15:44,260
I've been seeing more and more officers

3199
03:15:44,260 --> 03:15:48,000
out there with speed guns on the streets and, you know.

3200
03:15:48,400 --> 03:15:49,400
Well, we're trying to,

3201
03:15:49,400 --> 03:15:53,720
So we're picking up speeders there and that's been a good thing, and some of the people

3202
03:15:53,720 --> 03:15:54,640
that start out doing that.

3203
03:15:56,100 --> 03:16:00,260
We're the 20th largest city in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and we're going to do some

3204
03:16:00,260 --> 03:16:02,820
things, and we're going to miss out on some things, and there are going to be speeders

3205
03:16:02,820 --> 03:16:05,860
that are never going to go away, and people are going to come through there no matter what

3206
03:16:05,860 --> 03:16:06,280
we do.

3207
03:16:06,440 --> 03:16:08,960
It's going to be always busy, but we're going to try our best.

3208
03:16:09,200 --> 03:16:13,540
And my offices, the women and men of this department are doing a tremendous job.

3209
03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:18,040
I personally am grateful to all the work that they do for themselves, and I'm

3210
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:26,820
And one last thing, I'd like to say, maybe in the mornings, if you have a spare officer,

3211
03:16:27,680 --> 03:16:31,900
you know, you can go to that bar street where that seems to be the cutthroat that we have

3212
03:16:31,900 --> 03:16:37,860
to sign up that says you don't know, and maybe start grabbing people that just make

3213
03:16:37,860 --> 03:16:39,100
living with the signers in there.

3214
03:16:39,440 --> 03:16:42,960
Well, I believe this is live stream, so I can't tell you some of my secrets on it,

3215
03:16:42,980 --> 03:16:43,960
but we'll talk afterwards.

3216
03:16:46,560 --> 03:16:53,380
I know it's difficult for you to do it every day, but you have to sort of, you know, scatter around, you know, maybe here or there, put an officer over occasionally.

3217
03:16:53,740 --> 03:16:57,440
So at least I know people know that when they get on that street, they're going to be teched.

3218
03:16:57,880 --> 03:17:02,900
I mean, I know you try to be a nice guy and give him the mornings, but warnings don't work all the time.

3219
03:17:03,000 --> 03:17:05,440
We have a plan in play right now that I think we'll talk about.

3220
03:17:05,460 --> 03:17:09,420
Yeah, I say this on all the streets, but I think people just totally ignore the sign now.

3221
03:17:10,160 --> 03:17:10,400
Thank you.

3222
03:17:10,580 --> 03:17:11,200
Thank you.

3223
03:17:11,880 --> 03:17:13,080
Vice President Longo Kern.

3224
03:17:13,080 --> 03:17:19,360
Thank you, a few things were talked about, but with regards to permanent parking and the traffic commission looking at that too

3225
03:17:19,360 --> 03:17:25,700
I'm concerned. I know council marks mention Wellington, but also the hillside and tops between

3226
03:17:25,700 --> 03:17:28,620
the casino and green line coming

3227
03:17:28,620 --> 03:17:34,660
I think we need to be proactive and try to get a section-wide permanent parking plan in place

3228
03:17:34,660 --> 03:17:37,880
I don't know what the commission is doing now, but

3229
03:17:37,880 --> 03:17:40,380
But do we have any plans to do that?

3230
03:17:40,540 --> 03:17:46,020
It's been three or four, three years since the meetings took place and we really haven't seen any change.

3231
03:17:46,440 --> 03:17:48,820
Yes, so the answer is no, we don't have any plans.

3232
03:17:48,960 --> 03:17:55,480
But I'm willing to sit with both the council and bring back to the commission some of your thoughts and ideas.

3233
03:17:55,820 --> 03:17:57,260
I have to get up to speed on this.

3234
03:17:57,400 --> 03:17:59,680
There's a lot of them getting up to speed on the last by last.

3235
03:17:59,920 --> 03:18:05,980
I'll say it on the end of the issue, but it's just one of those things that's on my plate to get done and it's not been done yet.

3236
03:18:05,980 --> 03:18:15,700
But you're all right when you say that it would encore some of these larger construction projects going on and the issues coming to the forefront and we will address that.

3237
03:18:16,160 --> 03:18:24,240
So, yeah, I mean, I don't even know if the council has much. I think it was just to do section wide. So I was one council.

3238
03:18:24,320 --> 03:18:30,920
They just that there should be unless the street wants to opt out. I think we should just have section wide parking for those areas.

3239
03:18:30,920 --> 03:18:35,640
And that's what the people are asking for, especially in the South Midford hillside area

3240
03:18:35,640 --> 03:18:42,820
because there's little parking as it is and it's going to be tonight, Mayor, we've come

3241
03:18:43,300 --> 03:18:44,240
grand opening time.

3242
03:18:45,360 --> 03:18:54,400
My second question, too, with regards to the traffic division, so the numbers have

3243
03:18:54,400 --> 03:19:00,540
multiplied, which is great, are we seeing more, we're seeing obviously more enforcement,

3244
03:19:00,540 --> 03:19:06,100
more visibility to slow down the traffic, where are we at with last year versus now

3245
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:07,220
with tickets?

3246
03:19:07,840 --> 03:19:10,460
I'll get you those numbers. I don't have them before me.

3247
03:19:10,880 --> 03:19:13,280
Are we seeing more of them, or obviously there's been more?

3248
03:19:14,900 --> 03:19:18,140
You know, yes, there would definitely be an increase in citations.

3249
03:19:18,420 --> 03:19:21,900
When enforcement increases, these citations would increase.

3250
03:19:22,940 --> 03:19:26,640
I don't have those numbers in front of me now, but I can certainly inquire them for it.

3251
03:19:26,640 --> 03:19:28,760
Because we have a new crime analyst that can do that for us.

3252
03:19:28,860 --> 03:19:32,020
Yeah, we can get those numbers.

3253
03:19:32,420 --> 03:19:34,140
Yes, I'll absolutely get them to you.

3254
03:19:34,260 --> 03:19:38,500
And how are we handling where the our offices go?

3255
03:19:38,760 --> 03:19:42,440
Is it kind of, do they have a list they're working on for us?

3256
03:19:42,660 --> 03:19:44,400
Just goes as we request it?

3257
03:19:45,040 --> 03:19:46,420
Well, it's a combination, right?

3258
03:19:46,540 --> 03:19:49,880
So if it's requested from the council, or from the mayor's

3259
03:19:49,880 --> 03:19:52,100
office, or from just a citizen who wants to call it,

3260
03:19:52,380 --> 03:19:53,740
they do have the traffic line,

3261
03:19:53,740 --> 03:19:58,900
which is a great job and Cal Brooks is in that office often because he's doing

3262
03:19:58,900 --> 03:20:03,140
sort of tax and reconstruction but now I have Sergeant Larry Rogers also who is

3263
03:20:03,140 --> 03:20:09,520
fielding phone calls and those issues get addressed when that comes down and

3264
03:20:09,520 --> 03:20:12,200
there's a combination of traffic and addressing them and then we put them out

3265
03:20:12,200 --> 03:20:18,660
on either a roll call or a poll in board of areas so we can start to ask about the area past it to deal with.

3266
03:20:18,660 --> 03:20:23,840
And then I know the speed limit sign is on Lawrence this week.

3267
03:20:24,320 --> 03:20:28,860
I would just make a recommendation that if you do get some money from Encore,

3268
03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:31,300
you think about getting another machine.

3269
03:20:31,840 --> 03:20:36,700
Yes, because I find it extremely effective for slowing down traffic on that.

3270
03:20:36,940 --> 03:20:39,580
You know, when you see how fast you're going, you slow down,

3271
03:20:39,660 --> 03:20:42,240
it kind of makes people realize you might, I find them effective.

3272
03:20:42,660 --> 03:20:44,920
I do too. Yes, good point.

3273
03:20:44,920 --> 03:20:52,460
And then, just with regards, do you know how many cameras at intersections that we have and do we need more?

3274
03:20:53,160 --> 03:20:56,700
I know people have been requesting them from me as I'm talking to more people.

3275
03:20:57,300 --> 03:20:59,720
We as in the police department in other cities?

3276
03:20:59,980 --> 03:21:00,920
This is zero.

3277
03:21:02,080 --> 03:21:05,400
Most of the cities that have cameras, I'd love to know.

3278
03:21:05,400 --> 03:21:11,940
But they come from the ones around here, basically you asking money or federal funds from the

3279
03:21:11,940 --> 03:21:14,320
urban area security initiative, right?

3280
03:21:14,920 --> 03:21:19,740
And that's like homeland security money for simple terms of putting it.

3281
03:21:20,700 --> 03:21:25,540
To fund something like that on a road, I would support the project 100% because there's

3282
03:21:25,540 --> 03:21:32,240
a safety value in it, it helps us solve issues, it can be expensive and maybe it's

3283
03:21:32,240 --> 03:21:34,160
something that we work into for the grants,

3284
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:37,460
with the grant, but yeah, I'm a-

3285
03:21:37,460 --> 03:21:39,360
Or a main intersection, as I'm talking about.

3286
03:21:39,420 --> 03:21:41,480
Yeah, I'm a fan of them, but it would be,

3287
03:21:41,880 --> 03:21:45,240
you know, it's an issue of, that's an issue of money

3288
03:21:45,240 --> 03:21:48,680
and of policy for the public to see.

3289
03:21:49,140 --> 03:21:49,320
You

3290
03:21:55,620 --> 03:21:56,060
have questions?

3291
03:21:57,380 --> 03:21:59,320
Yeah, just if there are any grants,

3292
03:21:59,420 --> 03:22:01,720
I'd love to see if there's any grants out there

3293
03:22:01,720 --> 03:22:03,220
with regards to cameras and intersections

3294
03:22:03,220 --> 03:22:06,060
on main roads where you see the most accidents,

3295
03:22:06,060 --> 03:22:08,320
which we can find out those numbers from our papers.

3296
03:22:08,780 --> 03:22:10,440
We can't cite the rate for those cameras.

3297
03:22:10,660 --> 03:22:11,440
We can't issue tickets.

3298
03:22:11,640 --> 03:22:13,700
Some of them are in the red light and they're on camera.

3299
03:22:13,880 --> 03:22:14,960
You can't send them a ticket on the mail.

3300
03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:15,760
It's not like...

3301
03:22:15,760 --> 03:22:16,820
No, but it's in this case,

3302
03:22:17,060 --> 03:22:17,900
inflammation, right?

3303
03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:18,400
No, no.

3304
03:22:18,400 --> 03:22:19,700
Inflammation is the best thing.

3305
03:22:19,840 --> 03:22:20,940
Yeah, well, I would imagine two-fold

3306
03:22:20,940 --> 03:22:22,040
of the objective standpoint.

3307
03:22:22,240 --> 03:22:24,160
If something happens, you know,

3308
03:22:24,720 --> 03:22:25,600
it won't part of the community.

3309
03:22:25,820 --> 03:22:26,800
You can't ticket the flight.

3310
03:22:27,440 --> 03:22:28,380
Councilor Scott-Pelley.

3311
03:22:29,020 --> 03:22:29,740
There you go.

3312
03:22:29,920 --> 03:22:30,120
A lot of secrets.

3313
03:22:31,160 --> 03:22:31,560
Absolutely.

3314
03:22:32,040 --> 03:22:33,480
The open issue with grants is like,

3315
03:22:33,640 --> 03:22:35,660
so that urban area of security initiative

3316
03:22:35,660 --> 03:22:39,800
is basically a grant pool, and we're not part of it, so.

3317
03:22:41,440 --> 03:22:45,400
You know, we have near-rack, and the pool is a little smaller,

3318
03:22:45,700 --> 03:22:47,540
and then to be able to get grant money is what most of you

3319
03:22:47,540 --> 03:22:53,060
would want for grant money, so I mean, it's there.

3320
03:22:53,340 --> 03:22:58,940
It's not as available as it used to be these days.

3321
03:23:00,220 --> 03:23:01,020
Thank you.

3322
03:23:01,320 --> 03:23:01,560
Thank you.

3323
03:23:01,720 --> 03:23:01,940
Thank you.

3324
03:23:02,000 --> 03:23:03,660
Real quick, everybody's asked all the questions.

3325
03:23:03,660 --> 03:23:04,500
So I don't want to be redundant.

3326
03:23:05,700 --> 03:23:14,920
Just the communication side with the walkie talkies and being able to.

3327
03:23:15,100 --> 03:23:26,340
I know do we think that we feel secure with the new station coming on board that I know that when we'll have an officer at cemetery that we were told that blank cell.

3328
03:23:26,460 --> 03:23:30,640
We have no way to get. I think that was the biggest thing with me last year was that we had offices out there.

3329
03:23:30,640 --> 03:23:34,000
If there was ever an emergency there, they're held up there on their own, so.

3330
03:23:35,480 --> 03:23:40,220
Very wholeheartedly, I am going to tell you that the issues of communications for

3331
03:23:40,220 --> 03:23:41,880
the police department are going to be addressed.

3332
03:23:42,860 --> 03:23:45,360
Not just with the new police station, but they're currently.

3333
03:23:45,560 --> 03:23:50,920
We have plans going along right now that we have, we're going to end up working with

3334
03:23:50,920 --> 03:23:53,440
the company called Santa Cone, we've worked with the past.

3335
03:23:53,960 --> 03:24:00,120
It's just not just portable radios and cruises, but they're looking at the tower systems.

3336
03:24:00,120 --> 03:24:05,540
systems, whether or not we're going to have a tower or a fiber optics or microwave systems.

3337
03:24:06,900 --> 03:24:11,040
We work on a repeated system now where you have one dispatch area and something on the

3338
03:24:11,040 --> 03:24:16,300
north side and the other towers are like repeaters and if one goes down and you might lose

3339
03:24:16,300 --> 03:24:19,720
different sizes, then new systems are all going to be independent and we'll never lose

3340
03:24:19,720 --> 03:24:23,320
communication systems. We'll be able to reach up through the high school all the way

3341
03:24:23,320 --> 03:24:27,280
through. Going up on top university buildings, we have a commitment to get up there as

3342
03:24:27,280 --> 03:24:31,840
another line of site to WestMethod, all of that's going to be happening and should resolve

3343
03:24:31,840 --> 03:24:32,760
all of this communication.

3344
03:24:33,720 --> 03:24:34,040
That's great.

3345
03:24:34,180 --> 03:24:34,740
A lot of people.

3346
03:24:35,020 --> 03:24:40,660
My last point is just, you know, the SOFA chief, to reiterate what everybody's saying,

3347
03:24:41,260 --> 03:24:45,480
it's amazing that I can shoot you an email or a text message and thinking that I'll

3348
03:24:45,480 --> 03:24:49,500
get something back on a Monday and I know over the weekend one time I text you

3349
03:24:49,500 --> 03:24:54,380
within 15 minutes you already had something in the works to alleviate the situation.

3350
03:24:54,380 --> 03:24:59,780
So I can't thank you enough and how responsive you've been and I appreciate it.

3351
03:24:59,980 --> 03:25:03,980
I thank you and I thank you all of you for the support from the police department.

3352
03:25:04,240 --> 03:25:05,540
I think things have been going well.

3353
03:25:05,680 --> 03:25:06,580
Fifteen minutes, Chief.

3354
03:25:07,040 --> 03:25:07,880
I know I owe you one.

3355
03:25:08,200 --> 03:25:09,500
I apologize to you.

3356
03:25:09,520 --> 03:25:10,660
I apologize to you.

3357
03:25:10,760 --> 03:25:11,620
That's too much of a buck.

3358
03:25:11,940 --> 03:25:12,440
Fifteen minutes.

3359
03:25:12,640 --> 03:25:13,280
I look like an arrow.

3360
03:25:13,540 --> 03:25:15,900
But to be fair, I didn't answer your call the first time in a while.

3361
03:25:15,900 --> 03:25:16,840
First time in a while.

3362
03:25:16,980 --> 03:25:18,600
And now it's going to be two hundred more.

3363
03:25:18,640 --> 03:25:19,000
It's going to be two hundred more.

3364
03:25:19,020 --> 03:25:19,800
It's going to be two hundred more.

3365
03:25:20,200 --> 03:25:20,560
It's going to be two hundred more.

3366
03:25:20,560 --> 03:25:21,380
It's going to be two hundred more.

3367
03:25:21,380 --> 03:25:23,500
It's going to be two hundred more.

3368
03:25:23,500 --> 03:25:25,140
I got it when he wasn't asked.

3369
03:25:26,320 --> 03:25:29,860
If I may ask really quick, with regard to the new crime

3370
03:25:29,860 --> 03:25:32,680
endless, I know some communities on their website,

3371
03:25:32,960 --> 03:25:36,780
or me and the police website, they put out a rash of incidents

3372
03:25:36,780 --> 03:25:38,100
in one.

3373
03:25:38,440 --> 03:25:42,560
They might put out a map where it shows where the hot spots are.

3374
03:25:42,800 --> 03:25:44,360
Is there any thought about that?

3375
03:25:44,520 --> 03:25:46,440
Just so residents can be informed.

3376
03:25:46,600 --> 03:25:48,920
I know they've come a long ways with using,

3377
03:25:48,980 --> 03:25:50,280
I think, the next door app.

3378
03:25:50,280 --> 03:25:52,240
Yeah, people who are using it now.

3379
03:25:52,280 --> 03:25:53,100
It's the first time, one more.

3380
03:25:53,300 --> 03:25:53,820
It's great.

3381
03:25:53,980 --> 03:25:54,860
I mean, it was communication.

3382
03:25:55,480 --> 03:25:57,080
Is that the thought of the...

3383
03:25:57,080 --> 03:26:00,000
So it is part of the plan with the prime minister's position, too.

3384
03:26:00,300 --> 03:26:02,860
Not only produce reports for the chief of police,

3385
03:26:03,120 --> 03:26:03,900
so he knows what he's doing,

3386
03:26:04,000 --> 03:26:06,640
but to be able to provide reports to the mayor's office,

3387
03:26:06,840 --> 03:26:10,160
to the city council on a somewhat regular basis,

3388
03:26:10,300 --> 03:26:11,360
what that basis would be,

3389
03:26:11,500 --> 03:26:13,600
whether it's monthly or every couple of months,

3390
03:26:13,860 --> 03:26:18,120
it's really going to come down to what the crime added.

3391
03:26:18,120 --> 03:26:22,380
It's probably a fair fit for me to tell what he's doing without him there, but what he's

3392
03:26:22,380 --> 03:26:23,520
capable of is what we'll be able to do.

3393
03:26:23,760 --> 03:26:27,320
But that is exactly what we want and that's the purpose of the crime emails to be here.

3394
03:26:27,740 --> 03:26:31,440
So it's not just information to the chief and to the regular officers who are working

3395
03:26:31,440 --> 03:26:36,300
on a daily basis, but to the mayor's office, to the city council, some of that stuff,

3396
03:26:37,060 --> 03:26:40,140
redesigning our website completely, right, that process is ongoing.

3397
03:26:40,640 --> 03:26:46,800
Part of the intent of the new website and what I believe should be on there is

3398
03:26:46,800 --> 03:26:48,800
not just a new look, but easier access.

3399
03:26:49,280 --> 03:26:51,360
We want to be able to get access to reports, right?

3400
03:26:51,480 --> 03:26:53,960
You should be able to get your access and reports listed there.

3401
03:26:54,700 --> 03:26:56,700
Policies and procedures in the Bedford Police Department.

3402
03:26:57,080 --> 03:26:59,080
I will tell you this, we are reviewing all the policies

3403
03:26:59,080 --> 03:27:00,540
and trying to update rules and regulations,

3404
03:27:00,700 --> 03:27:02,880
policies and procedures, keep them sort of modified.

3405
03:27:03,240 --> 03:27:05,120
My goal is to get them all on the website

3406
03:27:05,120 --> 03:27:06,080
so that any individual,

3407
03:27:06,480 --> 03:27:08,440
not just someone who works with the city

3408
03:27:08,440 --> 03:27:09,380
or who might be a council,

3409
03:27:09,520 --> 03:27:10,880
but someone in the public who had an interaction

3410
03:27:10,880 --> 03:27:12,620
with the police and just go online

3411
03:27:12,620 --> 03:27:14,220
and look at that policy and put it in there.

3412
03:27:14,460 --> 03:27:16,420
But with that information is going to be

3413
03:27:16,420 --> 03:27:19,340
like crime mapping and alerts and notices.

3414
03:27:19,900 --> 03:27:21,780
It's a more responsive website.

3415
03:27:22,460 --> 03:27:24,100
Those things take a little bit of time to build.

3416
03:27:24,280 --> 03:27:26,200
We've contracted it out to a company.

3417
03:27:27,360 --> 03:27:31,340
And I'm hoping, again, that that's up by the summertime

3418
03:27:31,340 --> 03:27:34,880
and ready to go and all in fully functional

3419
03:27:34,880 --> 03:27:36,580
so that all of that stuff can be out there.

3420
03:27:38,240 --> 03:27:40,860
They hold 911 calls for first 911s.

3421
03:27:40,860 --> 03:27:43,280
Those are a great tool to be able to alert different areas.

3422
03:27:43,280 --> 03:27:50,540
is I'm often cautious that maybe we use them too much,

3423
03:27:50,700 --> 03:27:52,080
because I want people to listen to the phone.

3424
03:27:52,320 --> 03:27:55,640
When we call you in reverse 901, you should say,

3425
03:27:55,860 --> 03:27:58,300
oh, I want to listen to what they're saying.

3426
03:27:58,440 --> 03:27:59,560
This is why they call me.

3427
03:27:59,880 --> 03:28:02,280
I don't want to overly use that system, so that people

3428
03:28:02,280 --> 03:28:04,260
are just like, oh, she's very combative.

3429
03:28:06,140 --> 03:28:09,080
There's a reason for us to use that system, right?

3430
03:28:09,180 --> 03:28:11,620
And we want people to take notice when we use it.

3431
03:28:11,620 --> 03:28:13,780
And we can't get those things out there.

3432
03:28:13,820 --> 03:28:17,700
But there's valuable information that can get access to it.

3433
03:28:17,740 --> 03:28:18,380
We can do websites.

3434
03:28:18,560 --> 03:28:20,560
We can do wear up on Instagram now, Twitter.

3435
03:28:21,320 --> 03:28:23,340
We've never been on any of those.

3436
03:28:23,400 --> 03:28:25,180
But the police department is, we've run those things

3437
03:28:25,180 --> 03:28:26,820
and it's been a successful response.

3438
03:28:27,340 --> 03:28:29,320
The primal stuff is going to go to the public

3439
03:28:29,320 --> 03:28:31,020
and to the city council and to the police office.

3440
03:28:31,300 --> 03:28:31,880
Under the side.

3441
03:28:32,080 --> 03:28:32,360
Thank you.

3442
03:28:32,400 --> 03:28:36,740
Just by making food, I know as I said,

3443
03:28:36,960 --> 03:28:39,020
that public community police meetings

3444
03:28:39,020 --> 03:28:42,180
and get out into the community, no matter where we go,

3445
03:28:42,280 --> 03:28:47,020
people have been very happy with what's going on

3446
03:28:47,020 --> 03:28:51,220
and the direction of the police department's heading in.

3447
03:28:51,660 --> 03:28:56,260
And it's actually nice to see when the officers come in

3448
03:28:56,260 --> 03:28:59,060
at the different meetings, the exchange, the back and forth,

3449
03:28:59,200 --> 03:29:00,660
people are getting to know the officers.

3450
03:29:00,900 --> 03:29:04,740
And I think that goes a long way with just kind of,

3451
03:29:04,740 --> 03:29:06,820
just the back and forth, the exchange of ideas,

3452
03:29:06,820 --> 03:29:21,520
is, you know, the community trying to help out the police and vice-person. So, you know, a great job in that area. People are very happy. It's just a thank you for everything you do. And, you know, you're off to a great start. And there's a lot of happy people.

3453
03:29:21,520 --> 03:29:23,740
Thank you. Thank you. It's really,

3454
03:29:25,840 --> 03:29:39,620
the chief looks good when his office is doing a really good job and that's, and I owe a lot to them, what they do on a day-to-day basis, but it's great when they have the community support, but it's also community needs to know that the police have their support.

3455
03:29:39,620 --> 03:29:41,800
that's some of the things we're working on,

3456
03:29:41,920 --> 03:29:44,380
building on what keeps our heads up and go forward.

3457
03:29:44,580 --> 03:29:47,320
So I'm excited, it's all new to me,

3458
03:29:47,380 --> 03:29:48,380
and I think we're going forward well,

3459
03:29:48,520 --> 03:29:51,620
and I appreciate this, all the time we're at.

3460
03:29:51,780 --> 03:29:52,320
Good to hear.

3461
03:29:52,740 --> 03:29:53,980
I may just ask one quick question.

3462
03:29:54,060 --> 03:29:54,180
Yes.

3463
03:29:54,580 --> 03:29:55,400
To throw a little back,

3464
03:29:55,740 --> 03:29:57,120
that piece of satellite location,

3465
03:29:57,360 --> 03:29:59,960
is that 247, or is that just the...

3466
03:30:01,550 --> 03:30:07,210
So we're running all of our roll calls, three times a day, and our patrol officers can write reports.

3467
03:30:07,550 --> 03:30:12,710
So it's 24-7 operation, but it may not always be man 24-7, right?

3468
03:30:12,810 --> 03:30:16,150
Because those officers will work, and out there are our patrol functions.

3469
03:30:16,450 --> 03:30:20,330
So there are going to be times in the day when they're all out on the call, busy, and rolling.

3470
03:30:21,470 --> 03:30:27,050
But functions and works, and if you want to go see it, you can take a look at it anytime when we're leaving, can't play.

3471
03:30:27,050 --> 03:30:32,350
But that was, I think it's a great solution to having no space

3472
03:30:32,350 --> 03:30:33,510
when they built this police station.

3473
03:30:33,830 --> 03:30:36,650
So, but yeah, it's not always, if an emergency,

3474
03:30:36,930 --> 03:30:37,730
that will always be made.

3475
03:30:37,850 --> 03:30:40,210
And we have signs out there where people know that.

3476
03:30:40,430 --> 03:30:42,350
But for the most part, it's 124.7.

3477
03:30:42,730 --> 03:30:44,470
You know, mid-night roll calls that happen in there,

3478
03:30:44,930 --> 03:30:48,610
they're being, you know, parking, the cruises there,

3479
03:30:48,690 --> 03:30:49,710
coming out on the dispatches.

3480
03:30:49,830 --> 03:30:50,650
So it's worked well.

3481
03:30:50,950 --> 03:30:51,850
Right, good to hear.

3482
03:30:51,950 --> 03:30:53,370
Because any other questions from the conference?

3483
03:30:53,590 --> 03:30:53,690
Nope.

3484
03:30:54,290 --> 03:30:55,650
Well, Chief, thank you for your first question.

3485
03:30:55,650 --> 03:30:56,450
Thank you very much.

3486
03:30:56,450 --> 03:30:58,190
I appreciate it. What took everyone else so long?

3487
03:31:00,310 --> 03:31:04,450
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

3488
03:31:04,450 --> 03:31:06,330
Are there any other questions from the council?

3489
03:31:08,350 --> 03:31:11,830
Do you want to leave the report to your committee so I can do one?

3490
03:31:14,250 --> 03:31:15,870
Leave it in the report, we have a question.

3491
03:31:18,450 --> 03:31:21,030
Have a good weekend. Thank you.

3492
03:31:21,030 --> 03:31:23,590
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

3493
03:31:23,910 --> 03:31:24,550
Thank you. Thank you.

3494
03:31:25,310 --> 03:31:27,850
So, Mr. President, yeah, what's the motion from the floor?

3495
03:31:28,150 --> 03:31:29,170
Mr. Councilor Marks.

3496
03:31:29,230 --> 03:31:31,990
At what time do we as a council want to discuss some,

3497
03:31:32,030 --> 03:31:34,130
maybe recommendations that we want to put forward?

3498
03:31:34,550 --> 03:31:36,990
Do we hold off or do we discuss them now?

3499
03:31:37,470 --> 03:31:39,650
We could discuss them. I mean, that's it.

3500
03:31:42,590 --> 03:31:45,210
Thursday will be...

3501
03:31:45,210 --> 03:31:46,650
You could do Thursday if you want.

3502
03:31:46,810 --> 03:31:48,570
I mean, what's the consensus from the council on?

3503
03:31:49,610 --> 03:31:51,150
Do you mean when you say recommendations?

3504
03:31:51,710 --> 03:31:54,610
I think the one glaring issue that we all spoke about today

3505
03:31:54,610 --> 03:31:56,850
was regarding additional manpower, DPW.

3506
03:31:57,870 --> 03:32:00,570
So I'd be willing if my council colleagues are willing.

3507
03:32:01,070 --> 03:32:03,090
I think we should tag it with a number of what

3508
03:32:03,090 --> 03:32:03,770
we'd like to see.

3509
03:32:04,510 --> 03:32:06,030
The administration after today, you're right.

3510
03:32:06,090 --> 03:32:07,390
I think this is number one for me.

3511
03:32:07,790 --> 03:32:08,670
That's what we want to say.

3512
03:32:09,010 --> 03:32:11,390
So the administration is booking 4th-4.

3513
03:32:12,530 --> 03:32:15,490
The ones that they don't address the departments

3514
03:32:15,490 --> 03:32:16,590
that I'm interested in.

3515
03:32:17,430 --> 03:32:24,490
You know, I think we need more manpower in the highway and none of the four that they plan on putting on.

3516
03:32:24,690 --> 03:32:25,570
That's just something to hide.

3517
03:32:27,270 --> 03:32:31,890
But, you know, I think at a minimum there should be an additional 10 people hiding in the DPW.

3518
03:32:32,410 --> 03:32:32,970
And minimum.

3519
03:32:34,130 --> 03:32:38,790
I'd like to hear my colleagues have to say, but that would be something that I'd like to put forward.

3520
03:32:39,410 --> 03:32:42,230
And then they can decide what departments they go in.

3521
03:32:42,930 --> 03:32:47,710
I personally would have a preference that definitely a need for a highway.

3522
03:32:50,630 --> 03:32:54,290
Is there, it seems like there's an agreement there.

3523
03:32:57,050 --> 03:32:58,390
Throw it out there for now.

3524
03:33:00,910 --> 03:33:02,510
I think that's glaring.

3525
03:33:02,710 --> 03:33:03,890
It's something we all talked about.

3526
03:33:04,290 --> 03:33:06,050
DBW numbers are very important.

3527
03:33:06,750 --> 03:33:08,610
It's the numbers, but then it's also through...

3528
03:33:08,610 --> 03:33:10,030
Where? What's the problem?

3529
03:33:10,030 --> 03:33:17,850
We are in more awareness of what's being done and when, and how, I mean, I feel like...

3530
03:33:17,850 --> 03:33:22,450
Ultimately, we can't dictate that, right? I mean, but if we get all the tools...

3531
03:33:22,450 --> 03:33:25,950
That's right, it's really the department, that's department management.

3532
03:33:26,570 --> 03:33:26,950
Right, that's the department.

3533
03:33:27,090 --> 03:33:34,330
We can give them the tools they need to succeed, which are probably more, you know, people power and supplies and whatnot,

3534
03:33:34,370 --> 03:33:38,930
but as far as the day-to-day execution of how that department is run, that has to be left to Brian.

3535
03:33:38,930 --> 03:33:44,970
We've let it known, as Constell Scott mentioned, about sidewalk crew and some other things that we need.

3536
03:33:45,390 --> 03:33:49,750
So if we give them the manpower, then that's what Brian kept saying.

3537
03:33:50,290 --> 03:33:52,730
But, you know, I do like a lot of things that were added.

3538
03:33:53,090 --> 03:33:56,750
You know, the facilities manager does a huge step in the right direction.

3539
03:33:56,930 --> 03:34:08,450
So it's, you know, I think that the biggest issue we hear is after today's first session that DPW numbers and hoping that we can figure that out.

3540
03:34:08,450 --> 03:34:11,750
So we could put that in a form of a motion, at least for our first year.

3541
03:34:13,050 --> 03:34:14,950
That 10 work is behind it.

3542
03:34:16,430 --> 03:34:17,850
You bring that right now?

3543
03:34:18,070 --> 03:34:19,210
Well, yeah. It's a council, right?

3544
03:34:20,130 --> 03:34:24,190
The number, if anyone else wants to talk the number, but I'm just throwing out

3545
03:34:24,190 --> 03:34:27,490
four I don't think is adequate enough and it doesn't address the

3546
03:34:27,490 --> 03:34:29,870
departments that are interested in it.

3547
03:34:29,890 --> 03:34:33,210
Where I'm getting the calls saying we need additional, you know.

3548
03:34:33,510 --> 03:34:36,290
Well, he wants additional 25 realistically.

3549
03:34:36,290 --> 03:34:42,930
that's not realistic. But if you say within three years, if you look at another additional

3550
03:34:42,930 --> 03:34:48,670
four, say eight is realistic, they say eight, if we can look at eight, eight and eight down

3551
03:34:48,670 --> 03:34:48,810
the blue line.

3552
03:34:48,810 --> 03:34:51,190
Yes, if you go from eight, yeah, over three years you have 24.

3553
03:34:51,250 --> 03:34:51,710
I'm not opposed to eight.

3554
03:34:52,030 --> 03:34:52,890
I'm not opposed to anything like that.

3555
03:34:52,890 --> 03:34:57,890
So maybe eight might be more realistic than not seeing a tennis, but I just know with

3556
03:34:57,890 --> 03:35:02,090
regards to when you think about ten, you think about salaries, but you also think

3557
03:35:02,090 --> 03:35:05,270
about benefits. This cost associated, which we don't know.

3558
03:35:05,270 --> 03:35:11,650
We already know who, but if you know, we can go in the right direction and we can turn

3559
03:35:11,650 --> 03:35:15,570
back to the constituencies. Listen, honestly, the biggest question we have is a conversation

3560
03:35:15,570 --> 03:35:22,190
is, you know, basic city services. It's not like I don't think nobody wants that, but

3561
03:35:22,190 --> 03:35:26,310
I think at least it's telling the community that unless we hear you, we're trying to

3562
03:35:26,310 --> 03:35:29,910
move in the right direction, but still being physically responsible and seeing if

3563
03:35:29,910 --> 03:35:30,450
it's possible.

3564
03:35:30,450 --> 03:35:40,470
So, I didn't answer about forming a commission or a group to look at recruiting, because

3565
03:35:40,470 --> 03:35:46,050
again, this is not something that's going to happen today tomorrow, but like you said,

3566
03:35:46,170 --> 03:35:51,710
it's an aging department, and like Councilor Scott Bell said, if they come through with

3567
03:35:51,710 --> 03:35:57,530
an early buyout, we're out of business to say, but again, we have to come up with

3568
03:35:57,530 --> 03:36:02,990
the plan to recruit and train and do something over the next couple of years because these

3569
03:36:03,460 --> 03:36:09,230
people are getting older and they're going to have nowhere to go. Yes, let me make that

3570
03:36:09,230 --> 03:36:09,470
a motion.

3571
03:36:09,850 --> 03:36:10,250
Yes.

3572
03:36:11,010 --> 03:36:11,250
Second.

3573
03:36:11,850 --> 03:36:12,150
Second.

3574
03:36:23,010 --> 03:36:23,470
Second.

3575
03:36:23,470 --> 03:36:23,490
Second.

3576
03:36:23,490 --> 03:36:23,710
Second.

3577
03:36:25,730 --> 03:36:31,730
So instead of hiring for hiring workers, that number works.

3578
03:36:33,110 --> 03:36:33,230
Right.

3579
03:36:33,550 --> 03:36:35,170
So that would be the recommendation from our council.

3580
03:36:35,430 --> 03:36:35,610
I'll second that.

3581
03:36:36,010 --> 03:36:36,330
Okay.

3582
03:36:36,410 --> 03:36:39,250
And that motion from Councilor Mark, seconded by Councilor Carbiolo.

3583
03:36:39,390 --> 03:36:39,970
All those in favor?

3584
03:36:40,410 --> 03:36:40,810
All those in favor?

3585
03:36:41,150 --> 03:36:41,850
The motion passes.

3586
03:36:44,130 --> 03:36:44,250
So.

3587
03:36:44,850 --> 03:36:47,770
The paper committee, Mr. President, move the questions out.

3588
03:36:48,110 --> 03:36:48,550
Okay.

3589
03:36:48,650 --> 03:36:52,830
So we're going to leave the paper and committee where we will report the questions out to

3590
03:36:52,830 --> 03:36:53,470
the various departments.

3591
03:36:54,190 --> 03:36:56,210
Vice President Longo Kernel is already seconded.

3592
03:36:56,530 --> 03:36:58,050
Here on the motion of Councilor Scott Pele,

3593
03:36:58,190 --> 03:37:00,050
seconded by Councilor Vice President Longo Kernel,

3594
03:37:00,110 --> 03:37:00,510
is it favorable?

3595
03:37:00,870 --> 03:37:00,950
Aye.

3596
03:37:01,150 --> 03:37:01,770
All those opposed?

3597
03:37:02,490 --> 03:37:04,990
Before we adjourn, just to let everyone know,

3598
03:37:05,210 --> 03:37:09,170
he or he is at home next meeting, Tuesday, June 11th.

3599
03:37:09,430 --> 03:37:12,170
2019, 5.30 p.m. to 7.00 p.m.

3600
03:37:12,630 --> 03:37:14,850
We'll be discussing the budgets for the law,

3601
03:37:15,050 --> 03:37:17,810
Office of Community Development Electrical Building

3602
03:37:17,810 --> 03:37:20,570
Department, which includes the Chevalier Theater,

3603
03:37:20,570 --> 03:37:23,930
information technology, executive budget,

3604
03:37:24,690 --> 03:37:27,990
court's budget, which includes legislative budget

3605
03:37:27,990 --> 03:37:31,950
in their register of voters. On that, on Tuesday I believe

3606
03:37:31,950 --> 03:37:36,370
when we talk about office community development we also talk about certain boards and commissions

3607
03:37:36,370 --> 03:37:40,550
one being the historic commission, so I would just request that we

3608
03:37:40,550 --> 03:37:44,390
invite Brian Hayward to come. He's the one that is working

3609
03:37:44,390 --> 03:37:48,490
on the demo delays and we all know the issues we're having

3610
03:37:48,490 --> 03:37:54,730
with that and Forest Street, and I know that he's requesting a part-time position, so if

3611
03:37:54,730 --> 03:37:59,230
we could have him invite him, I can do it myself, or we can share and reach out to him.

3612
03:37:59,230 --> 03:37:59,610
Sure.

3613
03:38:00,370 --> 03:38:03,590
See if we can come on Tuesday to talk about concerns, okay?

3614
03:38:04,390 --> 03:38:04,890
We'll share a job.

3615
03:38:05,110 --> 03:38:09,410
On the motion of Councilor Scott Pelley, seconded by Councilor Marks.

3616
03:38:09,670 --> 03:38:12,750
To adjourn the meeting, all those in favor, all those opposed, meeting adjourned.

3617
03:38:13,970 --> 03:38:17,190
4-4 on the 3rd in and you guys don't need to bump this. It's a good game.

3618
03:38:17,710 --> 03:38:18,610
4-2 high.