1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:09,040 I think once a day. >> I tend to think so. 2 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:12,000 » So I feel like I've >> every morning. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:16,480 » Okay, we're set. All right, we'll call this meeting to order. A special meeting 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:21,080 of commissioners, board of commissioners, July 28, 2020. 5 00:00:23,439 --> 00:00:31,279 » It's 240. >> Andrew, do you want to take over? 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,520 » Yeah. So um the one item unless you want to do approval of the 7 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,640 agenda. >> Oh can I I'm sorry. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,239 » Madam chair move to approve the agenda as presented. 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,760 » So I hear a second. >> Second. 10 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:45,680 » All in favor? >> Okay. So the one thing that we have 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:50,480 today is approval of proposal for executive recruitment services. Um I was 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:57,199 able to solicit four proposals from different firms. Uh there is um they're 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:01:02,320 from David Drown Associates, GMP, MGT, and the Southwest Service 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,519 Cooperative. Uh all four proposals were included in the packet, as well as a 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,760 summary of those proposals, kind of highlighting some what I felt were key 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,880 items out of each of them. Uh I don't have a recommendation for you of which 17 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:17,360 firm you should work with because I I think it's the responsibility of the 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:21,119 board to lead this search particularly and I don't want to lead you in a 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:25,759 specific direction. I think all four firms based on the proposals they 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:30,720 provided could do the work. Um, two of them have, you know, primarily Minnesota 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:35,439 experience. The other two have national experience uh working across the country 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,920 but also have done work in Minnesota as well. So that uh kind of open up for 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:45,040 discussion available for any questions that you have. 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:50,640 » Madam Chair, if I may. Um Beth and I uh met with Andrew and the the primary 25 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:54,880 discussion was how are we going to do recruitment? 26 00:01:52,479 --> 00:02:01,360 What do we believe is best for me county? And um it was at that time we 27 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:07,759 gave Andrew direction to um get some proposals from firms 28 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:15,120 um that we can take a look at and you know decide. Yeah, we could go out there 29 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:19,520 and do it once on our our own, but you know, um we got to we'd kind of like 30 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:24,319 to hit the timing element here a little bit anyway. If if we hire someone who 31 00:02:22,239 --> 00:02:30,160 has children in school, we're not going to get them hired before the school year 32 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:35,680 starts. So, we we've got some potential roadblocks in the hiring process. and 33 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:39,599 and Beth, am I correct in saying we were both 34 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:44,480 pretty much 100% on board with let's take a look at a a recruiting firm? 35 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,640 » I think that's the best. >> Now, that's our opinion. What do you 36 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:54,239 folks think? >> Well, I just have a question. I mean, I 37 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:59,920 may I just question we go out once and try it 38 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:05,760 without a firm. I mean, I guess I thought in the 39 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:11,040 interest of time I just thought this was the best way because of timing that's 40 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:16,319 going to take some time and he's going to be gone in October and 41 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:21,680 » I think a position this important that we just need people that have names and 42 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:25,672 people that are praying for the job and I know it costs some money but in the 43 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,400 long run I've been I've been in [clears throat] places where we've hired 44 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:33,840 people and it turns out to be a huge issue and then it cost money to get rid 45 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:37,120 of them and I just think like I said this is an important position and I just 46 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:39,760 think this is the best idea. >> Madam chair maybe we could have Andrew 47 00:03:38,799 --> 00:03:42,879 just give us a short >> I think one of the real I think one of 48 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:48,560 the real value I think there's two big things that you gain from using 49 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:53,920 recruiter. done is the um you kind of remove the perception of bias from staff 50 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,879 that the person who's kind of leading the recruitment and bringing forward 51 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,799 semi-finalists and all the people who you think are going to be most qualified 52 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:05,599 that that person is helping guide who their boss is going to be and does that 53 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,159 person then have more influence at least the perceived more influence in the 54 00:04:06,959 --> 00:04:12,159 process than other members of that leadership team. Uh, and I know that's 55 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,079 one of, you know, Muel has told me that that was something that got was a 56 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,919 concern that was raised to her five years ago, six years ago. The other 57 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:24,960 thing is that by hiring a recruiter, part of what you're paying them to do is 58 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,479 go out and kind of beat the bushes and find candidates who might not be 59 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:33,040 candidates until they hear about the position and have an opportunity to kind 60 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:39,919 of have a frank conversation with that person about what to expect, what the um 61 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,080 kind of how the the board works, how the leadership team work, all those things 62 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:49,040 that can help make a person decide whether or not they want to pursue this. 63 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:52,560 It's awkward and uncomfortable for a staff member to call up administrators 64 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,160 or potential administrators from other counties and try and have those 65 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,080 conversations with them. Whereas this person, that's what their role would be. 66 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:05,040 So, I think those are two of the big >> I'm trying. So, I'm going to compare 67 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:12,560 this to our uh our guy that called all what uh that we 68 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:17,280 met at the hospital and did the the day of uh currently interview. What's it 69 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,039 what's the guy from >> the strategic plan? 70 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,240 » Yeah, the strategic plan. >> Oh, yes. Dave on. Yes, 71 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,240 » Dave. Sorry. >> Yes. 72 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:27,360 » But similar to that, you're going to call each of us. 73 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:30,720 » Exactly. >> And put all that into the 74 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:35,199 » in each set of the proposals. Part of what is included in there is um you know 75 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,960 individual interviews with commissioners. Um some of them have 76 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,280 included you know some further stakeholder engagement which I would 77 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:47,120 anticipate being leadership team. If you want other people Right? If you want to 78 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:51,199 include certain community members, members of say the planning commission 79 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:55,520 or the AIS committee, whoever you want to have like help drive, all of it takes 80 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:58,880 the more you include in that process, the more time it takes. They can also 81 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,680 then as you're going through that process, work with you on identifying 82 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:07,120 what do you want the end of it to look like? What do you want those interviews 83 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:11,039 to look like? Who do you want involved with it? All of those things. And 84 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,600 there's a a wide variety of things that you can do and they can help guide that 85 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:18,319 conversation to get you to a place where you feel like you're going to be vetting 86 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:24,160 the the candidates the best way possible. Um and yeah and and like we 87 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:28,080 did with strategic planning, it allows the people who are then participating in 88 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,120 that to participate in it and not be the one who's trying to facilitate it. 89 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:38,639 » Can you give us a let's say we posted ourselves? what would the timeline look 90 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:43,600 like? >> Um, so typically, you know, if we wanted 91 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:49,440 it to be out for, you know, three to four weeks and then, um, there's a 92 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,560 process to review and score, um, applicants, you're looking at another 93 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:56,720 week or two for that and then you have to schedule interviews and, you know, 94 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:00,880 you're probably looking at six, eight weeks at best before you're doing 95 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:05,440 finalist interviews. In this process, it's probably 12ish weeks because of the 96 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:09,759 time period it takes to do those interviews. put together that position 97 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,759 profile um and do that recruitment process. 98 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,319 » If we did it ourselves, >> if we did it ourselves, it might be more 99 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:19,199 like eight weeks >> and until it's about 12 is a lot what a 100 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,080 lot of the the ones who've included timelines in their proposals, 12 seems 101 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,479 pretty common. >> We could go eight weeks and say this 102 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:30,080 isn't working and anybody that qualifies >> and then need another 12 103 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:37,120 » and another 12. So I just there's a lot of positions I'm fine with us. 104 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:41,120 » Agreed. just >> I wanted to bring 105 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:44,479 » I understand but I just think >> for the look of it and everything it's 106 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,440 just better for us to get an outside person 107 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:52,319 » and you can get a bad person not or somebody not bad but somebody that 108 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:56,400 doesn't work too but I just think this is our best bet 109 00:07:54,319 --> 00:08:01,280 » they will vet them >> they'll you know they're going to see 110 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:04,800 how that candidate fits to our >> needs situation 111 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:08,240 » I think it's important we pick somebody has some experience in hiring county. 112 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,879 » Yes. >> Not necessarily city. 113 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,759 » I did notice >> there's a difference in how many people 114 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:22,240 you super supervised apartments. So did you 115 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:25,840 » I did notice both the first DDA and SCSC have um significant Minnesota 116 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:29,280 experience. >> Is that county experience? 117 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:34,000 » Um they both administrator >> they both have recruitments of um 118 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:37,440 Minnesota counties as well. The others have done 119 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,039 » county experience as well. >> Um 120 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,560 » GMP has certainly done county and has done 121 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,519 » fair >> one Minnesota county for sure. It's 122 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,240 that's in there. >> That would be [laughter] the ones I not 123 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:53,360 any business. >> That's what I can say for sure. They've 124 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:56,320 done one. It wasn't 125 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:01,279 » my perspective is they did a pretty good job for Sterns County 126 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:07,279 » and um MGT has done counties across the country. I did not see any counties 127 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:10,320 listed in Minnesota. It was all It looks like it's all city is what they've 128 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,800 listed on there. >> Well, now let's think about that for 129 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,320 » I take it back. They had one county. They had Ramsey County. 130 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:18,880 » Okay. >> If 131 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:23,040 the company that Sterns used, well, they know a lot about Andrew, so they must 132 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:27,279 already know a lot about our needs. >> I don't think that's quite how that 133 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:31,519 whole thing went out. There was a somebody, 134 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:34,800 » but I mean, you know, they had to have prevented him so they know a little bit 135 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,800 about his skills. >> Let's find Let's find the company that's 136 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:43,440 had the most Minnesota county administrators. Which one is that? 137 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:49,360 » That would be DVDA. >> I also appreciate that everything's 138 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:53,760 included in that one price. So, I I had >> I had an Madam Chair, I had an 139 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:58,240 opportunity to call Steel County attorney or connect with the Steel 140 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,839 County attorney because they hit the mark. I had talked to Andrew first 141 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:08,080 before I did it. I asked if he wanted me to reach out. So, I did because Steel 142 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:14,000 County hits the mark for using DDA, HR, GMP, and SCSC. And so, Steel County, I 143 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,160 spoke with their county administrator and their HR director. And so, they 144 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:21,120 provided some feedback if you'd like to hear that. 145 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:30,320 » Yes, please. >> So, they use DDA HR for their finance 146 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:33,600 director. They had a 24 month contract. And so, here it looks like it's only for 147 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:38,079 12 months. So, it's something that maybe this board could consider negotiating 148 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,760 into this current this current price is saying, hey, same price, but 149 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,079 » for a guarantee. >> Yeah. So they did a 24 24 month 150 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,640 guarantee >> and they lost their first finance 151 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:55,360 director within the year and a half and so they went out and found a second one 152 00:10:53,839 --> 00:11:02,079 and so that's something that this board can consider is negotiating terms for 153 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:09,040 the certain price. They mentioned that GMP the Jeff Welen is pretty well 154 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,640 connected. However, they think that DDA HR would probably provide a better 155 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:19,760 service because they have more of that statewide and outside the state. So, 156 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:25,040 they might be a little bit connected differently than just in the state or 157 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:32,160 FCSC. Also, the current county administrator 158 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:35,440 was solicited by DDA HR, this LISA that I think maybe some of you might be 159 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:39,040 familiar with. Yeah, I I have communicated with her. 160 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,240 She would not be the one who's working on this project. 161 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,519 » Okay. Well, Liza actually reached out to her and said, "Hey, I think you'd be a 162 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:49,200 great fit as a county administrator." Had she not reached out to her, she 163 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:54,320 would have never taken on this role as county administrator. The HR director is 164 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,240 extremely happy with their county administrator and with that selection. 165 00:11:56,560 --> 00:12:04,240 However, their HR director mentioned that that was a few years ago and so 166 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:08,639 lately they've gone out and just internally through HR and they've 167 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:14,079 handled the public works director, the human services director and another 168 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:19,040 director, but they have platforms for LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook. And so I 169 00:12:16,959 --> 00:12:23,040 think their HR is built a little bit differently. And so they have the 170 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:27,760 internal structure to be able to really capture a bigger audience. And so that's 171 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:34,519 something to take into consideration is what is our HR structure 172 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,519 built for? Um, 173 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:43,440 » so they used DD DH >> for the county administrator. They used 174 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:48,000 SCSC and they used 175 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:55,839 GM P. >> I would I just make the comment that DDA 176 00:12:52,079 --> 00:13:02,160 is a per premier business partner AMC too. I mean, they know AMC and I would 177 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:06,560 and that goes back to the connections you talked about where they they might 178 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:12,240 know somebody who's maybe not actively looking to be an administrator but would 179 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:16,240 be a good fit and go talk to them. So, I I I agree with that. 180 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:20,079 » And then also >> as well knowledge of county government 181 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:27,920 and >> uh human resources within county 182 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:32,639 » and and they did have to hire an interim county attorney or interim county 183 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:37,440 administrator. They came in three days a week. They had to hire this individual 184 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:41,040 two different times. And so there is the option if something 185 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:45,519 » How long was the search? >> I think that it wasn't success. They had 186 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,560 one that wasn't >> it's not the finance director. This was 187 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,920 a different one. I don't think they were using DDA for the first round. But just 188 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,360 as another thought is that there are interim county attorneys who 189 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,959 administrators. >> Yeah, 190 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:03,040 » that can >> I think we discussed that. 191 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:06,959 » I don't know if we need that. We'll see. >> Yeah, I I think in all likelihood we'll 192 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,680 probably unless we find ourselves in a position where you're going to have an 193 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,519 extended time with a vacancy. You probably don't need to bring someone 194 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:16,000 from the outside to do that, but you may find yourself in that position. 195 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,360 » Depends on time. >> Depends on timing. It depends on, you 196 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:24,480 know, if you go through a a search and you can't find anybody, then you may 197 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:28,399 need to do that. I mean, >> if we find an existing one, they may 198 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,600 have a contract 90 days to to get out of. 199 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,560 » We're going to have some time. Yeah. I mean, there's some vacancy time. No 200 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:39,279 doubt. >> They're defin 201 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,440 » So, what are you thinking? That's who I >> I'm leaning towards the DDA. If we can 202 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:48,639 negotiate that guaranteed time frame to 24 months would be great. 203 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:53,360 Are there any other terms to I mean we're the ones creating making the final 204 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,040 agreement so there are other terms that you can negotiate if necessary not 205 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:59,600 necessarily not meaning you might get them but 206 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:05,040 » would be negotiating >> I'll communicate with 207 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,199 » do we know um how long ago that was I mean 208 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:12,880 » it's >> like say is it going to cost us $26,000 209 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,839 to get a two year I mean is it going to be 210 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:18,480 » right >> I could I'll pose that question this 211 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:21,199 But we're not interested in a higher fee. Is this going to be something 212 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:24,160 that's better? >> Okay. 213 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:26,639 » You bring up a valid point being an AMC premier. 214 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:30,639 » Yeah. >> They know 215 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,920 » they know a lot of counties. >> Yep. 216 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:35,360 » Personally, >> and they know a lot about us already 217 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:39,920 because they did our they still >> they do our wage study. 218 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:45,519 » That's what I mean. They know a lot of counties our size. They do all the 219 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:51,160 comparables to that. So, one side of business that information 220 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 » start 221 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:59,839 » if everything goes great >> depending on what that person's 222 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:01,759 » so that's who I was kind of I appreciate the work you did on that 223 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:08,399 » thanks Brandy >> the other piece they suggested was H DDA 224 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:14,399 HR doesn't do the 360 she called it a 360 interviewing where you have your 225 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:18,800 leadership county board all in one room >> and She suggested that that be the model 226 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:22,399 this board maybe consider is having everyone in the same room instead of 227 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:26,000 having county board in here leadership in another room because they hear 228 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:29,519 everything at the same time. This is from one county there's 87 of us. So 229 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,399 just >> we can figure that out. 230 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:37,279 » Yeah. >> And then the final inter so that's the 231 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:41,600 first interview. Then the final interview is just with the board panel 232 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:45,920 and whatever leadership you want. >> I mean we did 233 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:52,000 did a hospital administrator. We had a meet with three finalists just people. 234 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,839 So there's different ways but I just want to get it going in the interest of 235 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:01,040 time and it's like they got kids and changing schools 236 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:05,639 just not that I we still want to we're not going to do it because of timing but 237 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:05,639 just 238 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:14,559 qualified candidate if it takes us an extra month to get that person 239 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:18,480 » it takes us an extra month. And you know, Beth and I have been 240 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:24,400 talking a lot about this simply because we're on personnel, but is that 241 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:28,319 maybe you want a different structure for this as it goes forward. Maybe you don't 242 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,280 want personnel doing this. >> I think that there's a couple Well, 243 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,520 there are definitely steps that we want the full board to be engaged with. Y 244 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:43,760 » the um obviously doing the project kickoff meeting with the consultants um 245 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:49,039 doing the but at the same time one of the the points could be does the full 246 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:54,720 board approve the position profile or is just the personnel committee approved 247 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:58,799 position profile right um is it critical some places the full board wants to do 248 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,240 it other places they're okay with not uh but then of course once we select 249 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,799 finalists for interviews that's going to be full board decision. Um they'll come 250 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:10,480 and present to the semi- finalists to wittle wittle down the finalists and 251 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:15,360 then of course the interviews are going to be full board as well. So 252 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:21,360 I I think that there's other than the one piece of approving the position 253 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:25,679 profile there probably is not >> really a ton of things that just the 254 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:32,080 personnel could be >> right. Agreed. Yep. the profile. I I 255 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:35,919 mean just my gut reaction is you want all five of us 256 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:38,799 » to have our input. >> You're going to have your input. 257 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:43,280 » My preference is to have everybody involved as much as we can. 258 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,600 » This is not >> We do pretty good together, too. It's 259 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,679 not like we're >> You weren't here this afternoon, 260 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:55,919 obviously. [laughter] >> You're still here. So, 261 00:18:52,880 --> 00:19:00,559 » everybody got bloody. I mean, there's nobody getting out of this deal live, 262 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:04,080 » right? There's been a lot of >> probably not good things to say as we're 263 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,600 recording, right? [laughter] >> Oh, seriously. 264 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,240 » Is every is everybody in agreement for that company, you think, or 265 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:13,600 » Yeah. Do we need a motion? We do need to take a motion. 266 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:21,200 » Yeah. M madam chair, I'd make a motion to uh uh choose DDA or accept their 267 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:23,039 proposal for the uh search for administrator 268 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,880 » um >> with a condition that 269 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:31,039 » can can you change that to instead of accept to have him negotiate a contract 270 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,000 with him? >> Oh, sure. Yeah. 271 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,200 » Otherwise, we're >> and and execute a contract in the form 272 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,640 approved by the county attorney. >> Yeah, 273 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:40,880 » exactly what he said. >> Then we don't need to come back with the 274 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:48,320 contract. >> Yeah. Yeah, we'll we'll accept our or 275 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:55,039 » we will uh I'll make a motion >> that we uh negotiate with David Brown 276 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:58,799 and Associates DDA to uh to accept a contract to search to go out and search 277 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:01,919 for a new county administrator. >> I second that. 278 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:06,039 » Any more discussion? >> All in favor? 279 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:06,039 » I 280 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,360 so you will >> I'll have that conversation with them. 281 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:16,799 Um, I guess the one question I have for you is if they come back and say, "Well, 282 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:21,840 we want an extra $4,000 or $5,000 >> for 283 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,600 the 24. We meet on August 4th." >> So, I I also know Pat's out of town and 284 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:31,440 so that's part of the reason why this would kick off on the 7th. So, um, 285 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:32,320 all right. Sounds good. That's all we need. 286 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,159 » Anything else? >> We cannot. 287 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:40,880 » We can I'd take a motion to adjurnn. So, >> moved. Second. 288 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,880 » Second. 289 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:49,039 today because told me I can do that. 290 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,039 » I believe