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regular. Meeting number 31 will now come

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to order. Please stand for the playing

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of the national anthem.

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member Remy, would you lead us in the

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pledge? I aliance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for it stands one nation under

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God indivisibley

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and justice for all

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» This evening council is grateful to have

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pastor TJ Lynch from Gethsemane Lutheran

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Church to lead us in prayer. Pastor

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welcome to council.

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Good evening, council members, and thank

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you for having me this evening. If you

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would please join me in prayer.

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Gracious and almighty God, we come

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before you with grateful hearts,

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recognizing that every good gift comes

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from you. We thank you for the privilege

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of living in this city and for those who

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have accepted the responsibility of

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public service. We ask your blessing

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upon the members of this council, our

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mayor, city employees, first responders,

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and all who work each day for the

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welfare of our community. Grant these

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leaders wisdom to discern what is right,

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courage to pursue justice even when it

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is difficult. Humility to listen well

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and compassion for every person they

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serve. Help them to seek not personal

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gain or political victory, but the

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flourishing of the people entrusted to

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their care. We also pray for the

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residents of Columbus. Teach us to be

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good neighbors, to show kindness to one

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another, to care for those who are

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vulnerable, and to work together for

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peace, safety, and opportunity for all.

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understanding. Where there is

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discouragement, bring hope. Where there

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is need, inspire generosity and faithful

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service. Remind us that true leadership

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is found not in being served, but in

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serving others. And may that spirit of

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servant leadership guide all who hold

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positions of authority. And may our city

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reflect the values of truth, integrity,

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mercy, and love. We ask all of this in

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your holy name. Amen.

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» Amen. Thank you, Pastor Cler. Please

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call the role.

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» Bankston Barrosa de Padilla de Akawa,

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Dorren Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

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Harden. Any person who takes any action

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to obstruct or interfere with the

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conduct of tonight's meeting may be

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charged with disturbing a lawful meeting

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pursuant to Columbus City Code 2317.12.

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Any person who enters those areas of

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city council chambers reserved for city

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officials or invited guests may be

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charged with criminal trespass pursuant

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to Columbus city code 2311.21.

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» Thank you madam clerk. Can I get a

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motion with the journal?

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» Clerk, please call the role. Banks Tim

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» Are there any additions or corrections

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to the journal hear? None. The journal

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is approved. This week's communication

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received by the city clerk's office are

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published in the record. Are there any

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other communications to be read to the

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» Thank you madam clerk. We'll go around

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the dis for updates and resolutions by

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» Uh thank you council president. I do

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have one resolution uh this evening and

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as I introduce resolution 0149X-20226,

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I'm going to ask uh director uh Sam Orth

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if he would come uh to the podium, our

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chief information officer. Uh this is to

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honor and recognize Sam Orth on

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retirement from the city of Columbus.

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Director Orth originally joined Mayor

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Ginther's administration in July 2016,

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bringing decades of experience in

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information technology, government

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operations, education technology, and

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private sector innovation. Throughout

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his tenure with the city of Columbus,

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Director Orth has demonstrated

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exceptional leadership in advancing

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technology solutions, strengthening

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digital infrastructure, and supporting

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the delivery of efficient and effective

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city services. Director Ort's

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contributions have included

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transformative technology initiatives

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that have modernized city operations,

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improved service delivery, and position

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Columbus for continued innovation and

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success. Uh, director, thank you uh for

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guiding our city uh with a cool head and

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a steady hand as we navigated the most

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complex technological

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advancements and challenges the city has

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ever faced during your tenure. Uh, you

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will truly be missed, but I know

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firsthand that you are leaving us in the

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hands of an incredible team at the

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Department of Technology. I wish you

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nothing but the best and hope your

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retirement is filled with travel, time

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with family, and amazing experiences.

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Uh, and as I said in those prepared

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remarks, to think about what we would go

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uh, to turn on a dime, uh, to shift an

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enterprise of 9,000 employees to to

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virtual, which we were not set up for,

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uh, and many governments weren't. uh

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then to also go through another

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challenging time with a cyber attack.

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size are not uh uh is not unique to us.

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from. Uh but through it all, I think you

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handled it with grace. Uh and you stay

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cool, calm, and collected even when I

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didn't know what the hell was going on,

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but you did. Um and so I appreciate that

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leadership. Um, before I ask you to for

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any remarks, I'm going to ask if my

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colleagues have any comments. Um, before

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I turn it over to Director Orth.

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All right. Oh, Council Member, thank you

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very much, Council Member Bangston.

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Director, welld deserved. Um, thank you

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for your service to this city. Thank you

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for the work that you've put in and even

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some advice about which internet I

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should have at home. So, appreciate

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that. Um, but certainly we appreciate

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all that you've done and your

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contributions to our technology here and

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uh hopefully you're got some good

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Um, welldeserved relaxation and and we

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appreciate all that you've done. So,

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thank you and yeah, we appreciate you.

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» Uh, President Proip.

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» Yeah, George Worth, congratulations.

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Welld deserved. Um, you know, I had the

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pleasure of working with you as the

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chair of the technology committee when I

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first came on council. It was actually a

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great way for me to learn so much of the

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functions of the city. You were so

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generous with your time and really

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helping me better understand from a

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technology standpoint everything the

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city does. Everything from, you know,

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literally keeping council running to our

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folks in public safety, uh, to our

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folks, you know, as council member

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Benson mentioned, literally during COVID

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talking about turning thousands of

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workers into virtual workers overnight.

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uh you know that that was such a

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monumental task and navigating that

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you've you've done u throughout your

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career at the city um definition of a

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public servant and just want to thank

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you for spending you know all these

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years with with Columbus to help uh us

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serve our residents better so

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welldeserved retirement and just

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appreciate the service.

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» All right with that I will turn the

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floor over to you director.

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Well, good evening, President Harden,

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President Proen Dorne, Chair Banks, and

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members of council.

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I'm calm, cool, and collected. I don't

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know if I'm going to be able to do that

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tonight. Um,

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my mom grew up in Clintonville. She

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attended North High School and taught at

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Indian Springs Elementary School. Um, my

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grandfather and father operated our

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family business at Fifth and Norton and

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Grand View for over 60 years.

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In 1976, when my father's company was

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catastrophically damaged by a four alarm

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fire on my mother's birthday,

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it was the Columbus Division of Fire

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that saved what remained of the

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business. Support that proved to be

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vital and pivotal in keeping the company

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alive. It's still in business today.

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government roles over the last 29 years,

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but in many ways, coming to work for the

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city of Columbus has always felt like

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coming home.

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I felt that way from the day I walked in

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the door.

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I will carry that with me, that sense of

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teamwork, collaboration, support. As I

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leave public service, I've long believed

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that the best we can do as public

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servants is to leave our organizations

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better than we found them. There's a

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long list of successful initiatives,

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programs, and projects we could point to

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over the last decade.

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Together, we stood up the city's B

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city's first body warden and camera

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program, modernized our data centers and

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core infrastructure, helped replace

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legacy 311 payroll and income tax

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systems, enabled departments to adopt

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literally hundreds of new technology

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platforms, expanded the city's use of

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data integration, analytics, and

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visualization, supported remote

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government operations during COVID, and

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helped the city navigate to recover from

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a cyber attack.

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The scale, complexity, importance of

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that work cannot be overstated.

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Having worked in IT for 44 years, I can

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tell you there's no such thing as

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perfect. There's highs and lows,

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successes and setbacks, but there's one

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constant that drives value in

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information technology. It's always been

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about the people.

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learned the technology changes

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constantly, but leadership, teamwork,

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integrity, trust, and commitment to

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service endure. Those qualities are what

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I've seen repeatedly throughout the city

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and especially among the women and men

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of the department of technology. They

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are what give me confidence in its

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future. One of my favorite quotes is

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from Alfred Lord Tennis's poem,

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Ulicities, I am part of all that I have

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met. As I reflect on my time with this

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city that quote resonates deeply because

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each of you has shaped my journey as a

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leader, colleague, and public servant, I

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will carry those experiences, the

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lessons, friendships, challenges,

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successes, and even failures with me

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long after I leave this role. I want to

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express my gratitude to Mayor Andrew

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Ginther for the opportunity to serve the

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residents of Columbus and lead the

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department of technology over the last

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dec decade. I'd also like to thank uh

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three chiefs of staff I've had the

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privilege to work alongside during that

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time Greg Davies, Ken Paul, and Elon

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Sims for their leadership, partnership,

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support, and friendship throughout the

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many challenges and opportunities we

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face together. And I want to express my

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appreciation to city council, especially

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chair Stenziano, Dorans, and Bankston,

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as well as to my many my many cabinet,

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city attorney, and auditor colleagues

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and partners across city government,

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whose collaboration made so much of our

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work possible. But most importantly, I

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want to thank the employees of the

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Department of Technology, past and

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present, who made all of this work

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possible. They are and remain the little

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engine that can achieve many great

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things.

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Serving as a city CIO has been one of

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the great honors of my professional

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life. Thank you for your

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professionalism, resilience, friendship,

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and unwavering commitment to public

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service. Most importantly, thank you for

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the opportunity to serve alongside you

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and to grow with you. I wish you all

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peace, joy, and continued sense of

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purpose in your service to the residents

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of Columbus.

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» Well, thank you um uh director again for

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your service. You know, it especially

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now sometimes is uh a thankless role,

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right? We love it when it's working

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well. [laughter]

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When it's not, you're the first person

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we call and cuss out and point and say,

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"What the what is going on?"

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uh but it's an evolving uh world in

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information technology and I think that

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you've helped guide us through that and

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put the city uh in a better footing to

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be able to address uh we are an evolving

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institution um and not just from a

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technological standpoint but even

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processes and having you in those

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conversations when we talk about things

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like budgeting and forecasting and how

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we think about the city. All of that

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centers now around technology and we

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can't divorce the two. Uh and I think I

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said this many times during what we were

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going through that this is now vital

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infrastructure uh for the city. It's no

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longer just simply a tool but it is

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critical public infrastructure that we

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have to protect uh that we have to

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continue to invest in. And I think

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through your leadership we have a

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framework that will help guide us there.

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Now the rest of the team you gave them

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the hard work to finish it. Now you

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didn't gave them the framework but they

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got to finish the the work but I think

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you have an amazing team uh and really

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looking forward to uh what they will do

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but more importantly thankful to you and

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hopefully you get uh some rest and

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relaxation. I'm going to say this and I

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don't now I'm now seeing our confidence

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the director expressed to me he has not

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left uh the United States from a travel

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standpoint. So we want you to go travel

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with your your your your wife and have a

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great time. Where are you going? You

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told me where where's the first place

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you're traveling to?

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» Probably Great Britain,

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where my mom's family's from. My dad's

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family's from Germany, but uh I'm

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probably going to start in Great

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Britain.

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» Well, we wish you all the great uh

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travels. Uh look forward to looking at

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all the pictures and and watching you as

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you sell off into retirement. Uh any

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other final comments before All right.

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With that, I move for adoption on

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resolution 0128x-2026.

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Second. as chair of the finance

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committee. I thought he was going to

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say, "And you have a paid trip to

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somewhere, but

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congratulations." And clerk, please call

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those [applause]

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0149.

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[applause]

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[applause]

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And I'll call the role. It's Bankston

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Barrosa de Padilla Teak Awards Green

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Remy Ross Vice President Harden

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» Adopted

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uh council member Rosa de Padilla.

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» Thank you council president. I have one

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very long overdue announcement today. Um

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that is happy World Cup everyone. As of

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today there are 64 games left in the

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World Cup. And while we tried very very

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hard to get our guests from Ecuador,

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team Ecuador to come to council, Monday

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was not a good day for them. We had lots

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of holidays. So, uh, but I have lots of

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Ecuadorian friends and constituents that

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have been calling me. So, I wanted to

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make sure that we made the

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acknowledgement today. I want to

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officially give a shout out to the

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Ecuador World Cup team. Since May 21st,

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Team Ecuador has called Columbus their

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home or base camp. during their stay in

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the United States for the FIFA World

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Cup. On June 2nd, nearly 1,000

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Ecuadorian fans came to a free community

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open training to watch team Ecuador

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train. On June 7th, they beat Guatemala

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3 to zero at Scott's Miracle Grow Field

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in a friendly game to prepare for the

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World Cup. There were over 10,000 people

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in attendance with 100 free community

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tickets provided to the Ohio Hispanic

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Coalition and the local Guatemalan

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consulate. Uh Latino students from CCS

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and around the region were invited to

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come out and walk with the players from

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both Guatemala and Ecuador. Uh their

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last stage match will be on June 25th

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against Germany at 400 p.m. in New

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Jersey. So,

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much.

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Um, I hope you enjoyed your time here

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and wish you good luck in the rest of

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the World Cup. And that's all for me.

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» Thank you, Council Member. Council

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Deakau.

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» Thank you, Council President. I would

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like to take a couple minutes and invite

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up Colonel Bill Butler from the National

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Veterans Memorial and Museum to discuss

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an exciting new initiative. In the past,

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NVMM has organized a meaningful

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remembrance ceremony on September 11th

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to honor the lives lost to the terror

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attacks in 2001. However, this year,

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they are looking to reinvent how we come

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together as a community to remember this

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solemn day by starting a citywide day of

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service as is done in numerous cities

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across the country. Later on in the

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agenda, council will be voting on

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ordinance 1835-2026

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to provide funding for this initiative.

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And so given the extensive agenda this

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evening, I've invited Colonel Butler to

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speak at the top of this meeting about

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this exciting new initiative. Colonel,

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the floor is yours.

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» Good evening, President Harden, Council

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Member Day Aau, other esteemed members

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of the Columbus City Council. Thank you

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for the opportunity to speak tonight and

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for your continued support of the

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National Veterans Memorial Museum. Over

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the past year, the museum has res

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refined its mission and vision. Today,

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our purpose is clear to honor all

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veterans, elevate their stories, and

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amplify the power of service for

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everyone, everywhere. That vision has

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challenged us to think differently about

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how we com commemorate September 11th.

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For many years, communities have

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gathered to remember where we were when

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we learned of the terrorist attacks. We

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remember the lives lost, the courage

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displayed, and the unity that followed.

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Those memories remain important. But 25

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years later, we believe the most

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meaningful way to honor that legacy is

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not simply to remember service and

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sacrifice. It is to practice it. That is

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why the National Veterans Memorial and

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Museum is partnering with 911 Day, the

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city of Columbus, Mid Ohio Food

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Collective, local schools, nonprofits,

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corporate partners, and community

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organizations to transform September

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11th, 2026 into a citywide day of

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service. Columbus has been selected as

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one of only 50 cities nationwide

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participating in this effort, and NVMM

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will serve as the official host site for

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our community.

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This is not intended to be a single

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event at the museum. Our vision is a

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citywide movement of service with

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opportunities for residents to

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participate through neighborhood-based

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projects, community centers, parks,

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schools, nonprofit organizations, and

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civics groups across Columbus. At the

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museum, the centerpiece of the day will

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bring together approximately 200

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volunteers to pack 75,000 meals. Those

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meals will be distributed by the Mid

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Ohio Food Collective to families facing

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food insecurity throughout our region.

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The goal is simple. Honor their

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sacrifice, bring people together, and

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serve others. One day, one community,

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hundreds of volunteers, and

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approximately a 100,000 acts of service

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to others. That's real impact. With your

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support, we can create a lasting

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tradition that transforms September 11th

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from a day of remembrance alone into a

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day of remembrance through action. We

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can inspire thousands of Columbus

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residents to ask a simple but powerful

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question. What can I do to serve my

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community? Together, we can honor the

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past, strengthen our neighborhoods, and

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demonstrate that the spirit of unity and

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service that emerged from September 11th

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is still alive in Columbus today. Thank

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you for your partnership, your

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leadership, and for your support.

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» Thank you, Colonel, for being here this

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evening, and I look forward to

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partnering with uh you and the museum on

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this community focused initiative um to

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honor um 911. So, thank you so much. And

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that's all for me, Council President.

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» Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Thank you, Council Member Preso Tim.

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» Thank you. Just uh one announcement

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tonight. Um, this Wednesday at 1 p.m.

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here in city hall, uh, we will be having

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a hearing with the workforce education,

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labor committee on the proposed

552
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,080
transition of Columbus' early start

553
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:28,080
program to Franken County. Uh, Early

554
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760
Start Columbus is the city's highquality

555
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,840
preschool initiative initiative that

556
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,159
helps eligible Columbus families access

557
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,760
free or lowcost prek opportunities for

558
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:38,240
their children through community based

559
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,760
providers and Columbus City Schools. We

560
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600
will hear from uh representatives of the

561
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,200
mayor's office of education, county

562
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,559
commissioner Eric Crowley, uh

563
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,480
representatives from the county and

564
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,600
action for children about the transition

565
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600
and what that would mean for our

566
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,039
childcare providers and families if

567
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,520
council decides to move forward with

568
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,520
this proposal. The hearing will be

569
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,440
livereamed on YouTube and Facebook and

570
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,840
we will be accepting speaker slips from

571
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,200
now and until 11:00 a.m. on the day of

572
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,520
the hearing. If you're interested in

573
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,320
testifying, please email my aid, Annie

574
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,880
McDonald, abdonnclums.gov

575
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,840
to sign up to speak. Uh, that's all I

576
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,039
have. Thank you.

577
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,039
» Thank you, President Proou. Council

578
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,120
member Green.

579
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,399
» Thank [snorts] you, Council Member Remy.

580
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
» Thank you very much, Council President.

581
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:19,120
I just want to remind everybody that the

582
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880
public safety and criminal justice

583
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,240
committee will be hosting a hearing on

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,559
the Division of Fire apparatus um this

585
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Thursday, June 25th at 2:30 in council

586
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:31,039
chambers. So, anyone wishing to submit

587
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:36,760
written or public testimony should email

588
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:36,760
my aid Pedro Mahia at pdmejalus.gov

589
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:42,480
with a title fire hearing by 12 p.m. on

590
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:44,159
Wednesday, June 24th. Thank you very

591
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,200
much. That's all I have this evening.

592
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:45,760
» Thank you, Council Member. Council

593
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,720
member Ross.

594
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,240
» Thank you, Council President. No

595
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,159
announcement, but I do want to recognize

596
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,919
some special guests that we have here in

597
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:53,600
chambers this evening. We have members

598
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:55,520
of the third Masonic district of the

599
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,720
most worshipable Prince Hall Grand Lodge

600
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,120
of Ohio under the leadership of Roderick

601
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,799
Q Blount and Leonard Cousin. We also

602
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,200
have the chair of community engagement,

603
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:09,679
Mr. Daryl Cobb here with all the members

604
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,760
of the third district may Hall stand up

605
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:13,440
today. Thank you for joining us joining

606
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880
us here at council chambers. We hope

607
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,159
that you learn something. We hope you

608
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,039
have a little bit of fun and we

609
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:22,320
encourage you to not stay the entire

610
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:24,399
time. and we will be here for a long

611
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,159
night, but we are certainly glad to have

612
00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:28,640
you. Thank you.

613
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:30,320
» That's all for me, Council President.

614
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,159
» Thank you. Thank Thank you, Council

615
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,039
White.

616
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:36,159
» Um well, well, thank you. Just my my

617
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,840
quick announcement is that this is our

618
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:41,519
second to last council meeting before

619
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,960
our summer uh recess. So, there will be

620
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,120
a lot of work happening this week

621
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,640
between the administration and council

622
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,159
member offices. Um uh we look forward to

623
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,600
continue to work with the administration

624
00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:55,840
and and uh get towards uh that recess.

625
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,919
Also, tomorrow night we have a community

626
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,799
council meeting at 6 p.m. at the main

627
00:31:57,919 --> 00:32:03,840
library. We even though this is downtown

628
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,760
centric or located, we of course invite

629
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,080
anyone from around in any neighborhood

630
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,279
to come and join us at that community

631
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,960
meeting. Um and that's all I have. Are

632
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,080
there any uh comments by our elected

633
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,120
officials offices? Seeing none, uh, at

634
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360
this time I actually want to turn it

635
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,760
over to press pro Tim.

636
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,200
» Thank you, Council President. Um, at

637
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,799
this time I request the following

638
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,039
ordinance be removed from the consent

639
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,399
action of the of the uh portion of our

640
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,000
agenda. The public safety and criminal

641
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:31,919
justice committee ordinance number

642
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,679
1841-2026.

643
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:34,960
Are there any other uh requests by

644
00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:37,200
members of council for the remov

645
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,960
ordinance or resolution from the consent

646
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,559
agenda?

647
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Seeing none, may we have a motion to

648
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:45,679
wave second reading of the titles of 38

649
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,360
legislation by the city clerk.

650
00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:50,399
» Clerk, please call the role. Banks

651
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,080
timber padia de a dor screen. Remy Ross,

652
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:55,200
vice president Harden.

653
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,600
» Thank you. Um, the following ordinances

654
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,360
appear on agenda as consent action item.

655
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,039
I'm sorry, consent actions. Will the

656
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,039
clerk now read those ordinances numbers

657
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,919
of each into the record?

658
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,240
» First reading.

659
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:08,320
» Yes.

660
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,320
» Okay. Yes. Um, I'm sorry.

661
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,799
In finance and governance committee we

662
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,640
have ordinance 1618

663
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,919
1663 and 1850-2026

664
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,679
economic development and small and

665
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:22,000
minority business we have resolution

666
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:25,360
146x-2026

667
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:34,480
ordinance 1173 1174

668
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:42,640
1304 1648 1651 1652 1694 1707 1761 1766

669
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:44,080
1815 1858 187 1870 1871 1872 1886-2026

670
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,519
Public Service and Transportation

671
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Committee we have ordinances 1494 1623

672
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:53,519
1709 1711 and 1875-2026

673
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:59,039
Neighborhoods Recreation and Parks

674
00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:00,880
Committee ordinance 1595 1749-2026

675
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:04,240
Workforce Education and Labor Committee

676
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,760
we have ordinance 1568-2026

677
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,560
health human services and equity

678
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,960
committee ordinance ordinances 1536 and

679
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480
1633-2026.

680
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,720
Public safety and criminal justice

681
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:19,040
committee ordinances 1327 1675 7 and

682
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,560
1791-2026.

683
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:25,599
Housing homelessness and building

684
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:27,919
committee ordinances 1698 1713 1760 and

685
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,760
1904-2026.

686
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:35,040
Public Utilities and Sustainability

687
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Committee Ordinances 12 uh 48 1323

688
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,760
1490 1521

689
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:46,159
1529 1539 1543

690
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:49,359
1551 1552 1554

691
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:57,599
1569 15678

692
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:59,119
1580 1581 1585 1598 1628 1657 1659 9,

693
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:03,119
1661,

694
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:06,880
1669, 1679, 1686,

695
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:08,800
1703, and 1887-2026.

696
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,119
Rules and policy committee, we have

697
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,400
ordinance 1882,

698
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:18,320
and 2005-2026.

699
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,640
In the zonings, we have resonings607

700
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,480
and 1611,

701
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:30,839
1923, and 1927-2026.

702
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,839
variances 1924, 1928, and 1929-2026.

703
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,480
» Thank you, clerk. Moving on to the

704
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,400
consent agenda. The following ordinances

705
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,240
appear on our agenda as consent actions.

706
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Will the clerk now please please read

707
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,520
the ordinance numbers of each into the

708
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,520
record.

709
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,520
» Resolution of expression, we have

710
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,520
147X-2026.

711
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,720
Finance and governance committee. We

712
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,320
have ordinances 1525,541

713
00:35:52,720 --> 00:36:00,040
1547

714
00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,040
1565 1571 1579646

715
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:18,240
1664 1678 1680 1688 1693 1699 1701 1718

716
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:24,880
1719 1743 1756 1757 1771 1799 1806 6

717
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:26,480
1823 1847 1860 187 and 1873-2026

718
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,240
Economic Development and Small and

719
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,079
Minority Business Committee Ordinance

720
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:36,000
1481

721
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:39,119
1574 1590 1649 1650 1783

722
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,800
1829 1832

723
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:46,400
1551 1552 1553

724
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,760
1885 and 1900-2026

725
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,359
Public Service and Transportation

726
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Committee Ordinances 20 1221

727
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:55,480
1495 15496269

728
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,800
1619 1624

729
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:08,400
1647 1672

730
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:10,000
1682 1836 1843 1856 and 1876-2026

731
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,359
Neighborhoods Recreation and Parks

732
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:19,839
Committee Ordinances 140405

733
00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:24,720
1409 1584 1632 2, 1665, 1723,

734
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:26,720
1762, 1842, and 1846-2026.

735
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,040
Workforce Education and Labor Committee

736
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,839
ordinances 1655

737
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,440
and 1807-2026.

738
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:39,520
Health Human Services and Equity

739
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:47,280
Committee ordinances 1615 1627 1670 1687

740
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:48,800
1690 1710 7 um 1813 1896 and 1933-2026

741
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:54,800
Public Safety and Criminal Justice

742
00:37:48,800 --> 00:38:00,720
Committee Ordinances 1431 1617 1620 1642

743
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:05,640
1683 1708 1720 1752 1834

744
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,640
183 39 and 1881-2026

745
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Housing Homelessness and Building

746
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:17,520
Committee ordinances 1553 1745 1767

747
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,359
1802 1810 and 1819-2026

748
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,200
Public Utilities and Sustainability

749
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:25,839
Committee ordinances 1424 1575

750
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:33,520
1621 1622

751
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:34,960
1691 1726 1770 1824 1869-2026.

752
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:40,079
In rules and policy, we have

753
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:46,000
appointments A113, A114, A115, A116,

754
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:52,000
A117, A118, A119, A120, A121, A122,

755
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:58,200
A123, A124, A125, A126, A127, A128,

756
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,200
A129, A130, and A31 131-2026.

757
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:02,560
» Thank you, clerk. [laughter]

758
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,720
uh

759
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,240
earning your paycheck tonight. Uh may I

760
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:09,599
have a motion for approval of these

761
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,359
items designated as consent actions?

762
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,240
» Clerk, please call the role by voice.

763
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:12,720
» Bankston,

764
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,079
» Yes.

765
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,720
» Barosa de Padilla,

766
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,680
» Yes.

767
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,320
» Deakau,

768
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,040
» Yes.

769
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,680
» Dorren,

770
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,119
» Yes.

771
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,839
» Green,

772
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:20,400
» Remy,

773
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:21,119
» Yes.

774
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,760
» Ross,

775
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:22,560
» Yes.

776
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,200
» White,

777
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,287
» Yes.

778
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,287
» Harden, [snorts]

779
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,040
» Yes. the exception of 165.

780
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:37,760
» Thank you. Um consent uh agenda items

781
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:39,119
are passed with the noted uh abstensions

782
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,119
» And I'll hand it back to you, council

783
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,119
president.

784
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,240
» Thank you. Uh Mr. Chair, the first

785
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,079
committee to come before council is the

786
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,440
Oh, actually we're going out of order uh

787
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,800
this evening. We're going to start with

788
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,640
the housing home assistant building

789
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,880
committee. I'm going to turn it over to

790
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,320
council member uh Ross.

791
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,320
» Thank you, Council President Harden. We

792
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,920
just have one piece of legislation on

793
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680
second read out of housing homelessness

794
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,440
and building. It is ordinance number

795
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,200
1684-2026

796
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,960
to authorize the city clerk to enter

797
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,480
into a notfor-profit grant agreement

798
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,320
with Enterprise Community Partners

799
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Incorporated for the missiondriven

800
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,359
affordable housing initiative in an

801
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,359
amount up to $148,000 to authorize the

802
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:21,680
appropriation and expenditure in an

803
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:24,480
amount up to $148,000 from the

804
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,240
neighborhood initiative sub fund. This

805
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520
legislation complements Yes in God's

806
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,200
Backyard, a piece of legislation

807
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,200
previously passed by council to engage

808
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,800
houses of worship, educational groups,

809
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,200
and missional aligned nonprofit

810
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,599
organizations who own or have access to

811
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,440
underutilized land. Current piece will

812
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,119
empower enterprise to work with emerging

813
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,200
developers, minority developers, and

814
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:45,359
faith institutions with educational,

815
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,359
technical training, support, and tools

816
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,280
to navigate the development process,

817
00:40:47,359 --> 00:40:51,040
assess the feasibility and desiraability

818
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,200
of developing affordable housing and

819
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,480
community facilities on that land, and

820
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,040
support them through real estate

821
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,640
development. And through that process,

822
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Enterprise will provide 20 hours of

823
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,839
classroom instruction with subject

824
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,920
matter experts covering various aspects

825
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of the development process, both virtual

826
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and in person. Sessions could include,

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00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,000
but are limited to, real estate

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00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920
development 101, site studies, ordering

829
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,240
phase one environmental study, gathering

830
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,079
market data, having a feasibility study

831
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,480
prepared, having a market demographic

832
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,319
study prepared, having a traffic impact

833
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,720
study prepared, project mission site

834
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:24,960
development process, zoning, evaluation,

835
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:27,040
acquisitions, projecting and planning

836
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,720
process, selecting a development team,

837
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,640
developing, concept design,

838
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:33,040
pre-development, budgeting, and putting

839
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,560
together project economics. Tools and

840
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,240
resources Enterprise will provide are

841
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,000
paramount to help assist with our need

842
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:40,640
for affordable housing at every price

843
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,040
point for Columbus residents. Certainly

844
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,960
eager to work alongside Enterprise and

845
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Council President Harden to be creative

846
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,040
and intentional as we combat our housing

847
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,720
crisis and pass it over to you,

848
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,760
President Harden, for further comment.

849
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,760
» Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you

850
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,240
for the partnership. Just want to as I

851
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,319
start invite up Ayana Blue Donald from

852
00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:00,160
Enterprise Community Partners who's here

853
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:01,599
to represent the organization this year

854
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
and certainly like I said thank council

855
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,599
member Ross for her partnership and

856
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,520
leadership on this legislation. Last

857
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,599
year council took an important step

858
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,920
forward passing yes in God's Backyard or

859
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,760
Yee legislation. We recognize that

860
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,520
throughout Columbus uh there are

861
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,599
churches, faith communities and

862
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,839
missiondriven nonprofits that own land

863
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,839
and want to be part of the solution to

864
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:24,079
our housing crisis. We also recognize

865
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:26,000
that too often the barriers standing in

866
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:28,160
the way are not a lack of willingness or

867
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,560
vision. It's a lack of capacity,

868
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,599
technical expertise, and access to

869
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,280
development process. Yigby helped remove

870
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,359
one of those barriers by making it

871
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,040
easier for houses of worship to pursue

872
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:41,680
affordable housing development on their

873
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,839
property. But changing zoning rules is

874
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,000
only the first step. The real the

875
00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:47,920
reality is that developing housing is

876
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,079
complicated. It requires understanding

877
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,480
land use regulations, financing

878
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:55,920
structures, environmental reviews,

879
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,079
feasibility studies, design concepts, uh

880
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,240
development teams, project budgets, and

881
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:02,160
countless other pieces that can feel

882
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,640
overwhelming to an organization whose

883
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,200
primary mission is to serve its

884
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,440
congregation. That's why this grant and

885
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,960
program is important. Through this

886
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,800
partnership with Enterprise, we are

887
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,440
creating a pathway for faith-based

888
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,680
organizations, educational institutions,

889
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,000
and missiondriven nonprofits to move

890
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,800
from simply having an idea to

891
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,440
understanding how that idea can come can

892
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,280
become a real housing project.

893
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Enterprise brings a proven track record

894
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,400
to this work through its faith-based

895
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,160
development initiative. It has supported

896
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,760
the creation of thousands of affordable

897
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,359
homes across the country and helped

898
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,040
establish a pipeline of more. Uh through

899
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:41,440
training, technical assistance, and

900
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,760
expert guidance, participants will learn

901
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,640
how to evaluate their sites, understand

902
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,960
development uh uh fundamentals, build

903
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,040
project teams, assess financial pos uh

904
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,880
feasibility, and determine whether

905
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,839
affordable housing is the right fit for

906
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:58,160
their mission and their property. Uh and

907
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:01,040
that matters because we know there is no

908
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,040
single solution to housing that uh that

909
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,599
the housing shortage that the city is

910
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,440
facing across Columbus. There are faith

911
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:09,280
institutions and nonprofit organizations

912
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,160
that have served their community for

913
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,920
generations. Many are trusted anchors in

914
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,839
neighborhoods. Many possess land that is

915
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,240
underutilized and many have a deep

916
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:20,720
commitment to serving people uh beyond

917
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,560
their walls. Um this legislation is

918
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,880
about building that pipeline. It's about

919
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,200
ensuring that organizations with a

920
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,960
desire to serve their communities are

921
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,200
not left on the sidelines because of

922
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,760
development process. It's about making

923
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,839
smart use of land, expanding housing

924
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,000
affordability, and empowering local

925
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:40,800
institutions to partner to address one

926
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,359
of our city's largest issues. So, I want

927
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,000
to thank Enterprise uh for the work that

928
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:47,839
you have done even before us. uh the

929
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,160
there was a pilot that you had on the

930
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:52,400
near east side that that showed real

931
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,640
results and uh so it's been an honor

932
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,480
after we passed our Yigby legislation

933
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,800
that we can come up beside you support

934
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,720
you in this work. Uh I'm hearing that

935
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,480
every day you're leveraging our city

936
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,400
dollars to bring in corporate dollars to

937
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,560
also support this. So thank you so much.

938
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,920
I'm going to turn it over to Ayana.

939
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,599
» Thank you so much. Good evening. Uh,

940
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Council President Harden and

941
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:14,960
Councilwoman Ross, thank you so much

942
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:17,520
because you took a lot of words right

943
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,040
out of my mouth. Um, and to the members

944
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,040
of city council, thank you for the

945
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,720
opportunity to testify today in support

946
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:27,119
of ordinance 1684-2026.

947
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,280
Again, I am Ayana Blue and I serve as

948
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,520
vice president of the Midwest region at

949
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Enterprise Community Partners. At

950
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Enterprise, we do strive to make sure

951
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,680
more families have a safe, affordable

952
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:39,680
place to call home.

953
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,680
Columbus is facing the same challenge

954
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,160
many communities across the country are

955
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,400
facing. Housing costs are rising faster

956
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,800
than many families can keep up and the

957
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,839
supply of affordable homes is still far

958
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,079
too limited. City council has already

959
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:56,400
shown important leadership by creating

960
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:58,400
the gig framework to help unlock

961
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,960
landowned by missiondriven institutions

962
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,359
for affordable housing. This ordinance

963
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,480
is an important next step in turning

964
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:08,720
that vision into something real. Many

965
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,280
faith-based organizations, educational

966
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,960
institutions, and nonprofits care deeply

967
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,119
about housing stability in their

968
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,520
neighborhoods. Some have land or

969
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:20,000
property that could be part of this

970
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,000
solution. But even when the mission is

971
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,880
strong, affordable housing development

972
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,119
can be complicated. Organizations often

973
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,280
need support to understand the process,

974
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:32,240
determine what is feasible, and figure

975
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,079
out how to move a project forward. This

976
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:37,040
is what the missiondriven affordable

977
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:39,200
housing initiative is designed to do.

978
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Through training, technical assistance,

979
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,920
and early stage project support, it will

980
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,920
help local organizations understand the

981
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,319
development process, evaluate

982
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,240
opportunities on their sites, and move

983
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:52,319
promising ideas closer to

984
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,400
implementation.

985
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:56,640
Enterprise brings deep experience to

986
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,079
this work. We have supported faith-based

987
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,000
affordable housing efforts in

988
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,920
communities across the country as

989
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,920
referenced by Council President Harton

990
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,160
right here in Columbus on the near east

991
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,920
side. And we have seen what is possible

992
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,800
when missional aligned institutions have

993
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,960
the right tools, guidance, and partners.

994
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,560
In fact, this year we are celebrating 20

995
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,400
years of enterprises faith-based

996
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,440
development initiative work that began

997
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,160
in 2006 and continues to grow across the

998
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,000
country. Here in Columbus, this

999
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,000
initiative can help build a pipeline of

1000
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,839
local projects by supporting

1001
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,920
organizations at different stages of

1002
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:31,920
readiness. Some just beginning to

1003
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,240
explore a vision and others ready to

1004
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,119
move a concept closer to funding and

1005
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:39,839
development. Over time, what that really

1006
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:42,880
means is more valuable, excuse me,

1007
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:44,880
viable projects, stronger partnerships,

1008
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,640
and more affordable homes for Columbus

1009
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,880
residents.

1010
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,680
This is a smart and strategic public

1011
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,440
investment. It does not just support one

1012
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,200
project, but it helps build the

1013
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,200
capacity, knowledge, and local

1014
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,119
infrastructure needed to create more

1015
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,240
affordable housing opportunities over

1016
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,800
time. It aligns with the city's broader

1017
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,200
housing goals, strengthens the impact of

1018
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,280
the IGBY legislation, and helps ensure

1019
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,680
that community serving institutions can

1020
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,680
play a meaningful role in addressing the

1021
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,400
local housing needs.

1022
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,880
We are also very encouraged by how much

1023
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,040
community interest there has been and

1024
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,599
specifically early interest from PNC

1025
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,359
Bank to support this work. We are in

1026
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:27,119
active discussions with several private

1027
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:28,720
sector partners about how their support

1028
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:31,440
can strengthen this effort as it

1029
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:33,839
continues to move forward. For all of

1030
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,760
those reasons and more, we are excited

1031
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:38,800
to partner with the city of Columbus in

1032
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,119
this effort. Thank you so much for your

1033
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,040
leadership in housing and for

1034
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:45,200
considering this very very important

1035
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,440
investment in missiondriven affordable

1036
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:50,079
housing. I appreciate your time and

1037
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,760
consideration.

1038
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:54,160
» Thank you. Are there any comments or

1039
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,839
questions from my colleagues?

1040
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,440
Seeing none, I move for passage. Second

1041
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:01,839
Bank

1042
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,599
Aaron Green Remy Ross Vice President

1043
00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:06,839
Harden.

1044
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,839
» Thank you.

1045
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,160
The next committee to come before

1046
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,200
council is the finance and governance

1047
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,319
committee. That committee is chaired by

1048
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,119
council member Banks. Councilman, the

1049
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:15,119
floor is yours.

1050
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:17,520
» Uh thank you, council president. I know

1051
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,599
we were sidebar. I'm going to go out of

1052
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,800
order with your permission. Uh we do

1053
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,559
have some stakeholders in the audience

1054
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,319
and there's two pieces of legislation

1055
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,680
that we want to think get through before

1056
00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:28,079
break. So with your permission, I'll

1057
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,880
first go to the rules and policy

1058
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:32,720
committee. Thank you and council

1059
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,119
president. And we're on page 43 of the

1060
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:37,520
agenda uh uh to read an ordinance in the

1061
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:39,440
rules and policy committee uh ordinance

1062
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,319
1953-2026

1063
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,160
to amend section 371.02

1064
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:46,480
of Columbus city codes to shift the

1065
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,240
affordable housing trust hotel motel and

1066
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,079
short-term rental excise tax

1067
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,680
distribution to experience Columbus and

1068
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:54,800
to declare an emergency. This

1069
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,640
legislation amends section 371.02 02 of

1070
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,359
the Columbus City codes to shift the

1071
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,839
affordable housing trust motel motel

1072
00:49:59,359 --> 00:50:03,520
motel and short-term rental excise tax

1073
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:05,040
distribution to Experience Columbus.

1074
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,599
Experience Columbus has expressed

1075
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,760
concerns regarding their operating uh

1076
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:11,760
budget capacity uh to continue

1077
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,400
adequately driving the regional travel

1078
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,000
and tourism economy for Columbus. And I

1079
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,280
can say firsthand as a board member,

1080
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,839
this has been something that's been

1081
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,480
going on uh year uh over year, but we

1082
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:24,559
continue to punch above our weight. The

1083
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,319
city uh intends to shift the current

1084
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:28,400
affordable housing trust bed tax

1085
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:29,920
distribution to experience Columbus for

1086
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,920
the purpose of providing increased

1087
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,240
revenue for the advancement of the

1088
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,960
cultural development of the community

1089
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,880
and for promotion and publicizing of the

1090
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,880
city. This adjustment reflects that

1091
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,960
Experience Columbus plays a central role

1092
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,599
in positioning Columbus as an economic

1093
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,839
powerhouse in the region, leading to the

1094
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,079
continued growth of local jobs,

1095
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:51,839
generating substantial visitor spending,

1096
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:54,240
and contributing significantly to the

1097
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:56,319
regional tax base. Increasing the share

1098
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:58,000
of the bed tax revenue allocated to

1099
00:50:56,319 --> 00:50:59,839
experience Columbus will better position

1100
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,839
an organization to compete with

1101
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:04,800
destination marketing efforts in peer

1102
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:07,200
metropolis areas uh where allocations of

1103
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,200
tourism promotion and visitor attraction

1104
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,599
are typically much higher than in

1105
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,160
Columbus. Uh and in fact in our

1106
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:16,880
competitive set uh as a city we actually

1107
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,040
rank dead last in our funding of our

1108
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,760
tourism sector. And just think about

1109
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:25,680
that. But yet we continue to get major

1110
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:28,079
conferences like ASAE and PCMA uh and

1111
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,000
the AM church conference showing that

1112
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:32,480
we're punching above our weight. But yet

1113
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:35,520
still uh we need to continue to fund

1114
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,720
this uh this uh sector because it is

1115
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,960
driving so much of uh our economy. In

1116
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:42,720
return, the city will enter into a

1117
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,640
separate contribution agreement with the

1118
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:47,359
affordable housing trust that contains a

1119
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:50,160
5-year funding commitment totaling $12.5

1120
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:51,680
million. While the city searches for new

1121
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,280
funding streams to replace the

1122
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,000
affordable housing trust bed tax

1123
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,760
distribution long term, uh the source of

1124
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,359
interim funding will be the city's

1125
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,200
affordable housing bond dollars, which

1126
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:03,440
is in alignment with the city's stated

1127
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,040
affordable housing strategies. Uh this

1128
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,960
will uh this arrangement will provide

1129
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,040
the affordable housing trust with an

1130
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,520
actual higher more consistent funding

1131
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,079
level to support their expansion and

1132
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,319
housing efforts. Additionally, uh there

1133
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,920
will be increased uh revenue given to

1134
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:20,160
the affordable housing trust for

1135
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,000
operational costs via a contribution

1136
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,160
agreement between Experience Columbus

1137
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,160
totaling $250,000

1138
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,000
additional dollars. Both the Affordable

1139
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Housing Trust and Experience Columbus

1140
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,280
support this change and I want to

1141
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:33,440
personally thank Brian Ross and his

1142
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,720
leadership as well as Ian Lavitu, our

1143
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,760
leader at the affordable housing trust

1144
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,440
for coming together to work

1145
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,760
collaboratively to come up with a

1146
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,680
solution for both organizations. An

1147
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,400
emergency designation is requested since

1148
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,480
additional delay in this change greatly

1149
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,079
complicates the execution of an external

1150
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,079
agreement between the affordable housing

1151
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:52,079
trust and experience Columbus as a

1152
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:54,079
result of the monthly distribution

1153
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,359
schedule of the bed tax proceeds. Are

1154
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:57,280
there any questions or comments from my

1155
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:58,720
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

1156
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,839
passage.

1157
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,319
» Please call the role.

1158
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:04,319
» Thanks. Timber Rosa Deodia de a dorren

1159
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:04,880
Green Remy Ross. Vice President Harden

1160
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:06,319
» Passed.

1161
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,800
» Thank you council president. And still

1162
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:10,160
going out of order. Um, could I please

1163
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000
move to the Economic Development and

1164
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,800
Small Minority Business Committee,

1165
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,040
» Please?

1166
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,359
» Thank you. Next we have uh ordinance

1167
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,440
1508-20

1168
00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:21,280
uh26 to authorize the director of

1169
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,359
department of development to enter into

1170
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:27,440
the first uh amend and re restated

1171
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:29,040
Norwich Township compensation agreement

1172
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,280
with Norwich Township regarding

1173
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,119
administrative changes to that agreement

1174
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,359
due to the repeal of the sugar farms 40

1175
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:39,119
BIFF and the expansion of the sugar

1176
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:42,000
farms incentive district by ordinance

1177
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:44,000
number 2451-2025

1178
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,160
to appropriate and authorize the

1179
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,880
expenditure of service payments in lie

1180
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,839
of taxes generated by the parcels in

1181
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,720
Sugar Farm incentive district and Reiner

1182
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:57,119
South incentive district that are to be

1183
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:00,240
deposited in the Sugar Farms Incentive

1184
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:03,520
District 40C TIFF fund and the Reer

1185
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:06,400
South Incentive District 40C TIFF fund

1186
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,480
in accordance with the first amended and

1187
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,480
restated Norwich Township Compensation

1188
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,800
Agreement. This ordinance is an

1189
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,960
administrative companion to ordinance

1190
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,920
2451-2025,

1191
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:21,520
which council approved on December 18th,

1192
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:24,240
2025. Ordinance 2451-2025

1193
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,559
dissolved one of two tiffs over the

1194
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:28,559
sugar farm development and consolidated

1195
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:32,160
all related parcels into the remaining

1196
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,920
TIFF. Ordinance 1508-2026

1197
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,000
updates the existing compensation

1198
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,640
agreement so that it references the

1199
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,400
remaining TIFF, not the one that was

1200
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,440
dissolved. Uh, Director Stevens, I'm

1201
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,160
going to turn it over to you just to

1202
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,800
talk about this ordinance a little bit.

1203
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,480
do know that we have uh some of our

1204
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,839
friends here from fire and there's I

1205
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,200
think a broader discussion about the

1206
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:53,040
city's growth. But could you just talk

1207
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,880
about this particular ordinance, what it

1208
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,480
does and and what it doesn't do and then

1209
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,319
I think we'll be able to have a broader

1210
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:01,119
conversation uh with my colleagues and

1211
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:02,079
also uh our um firefighters who are here

1212
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,240
with us.

1213
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:07,119
» Thank you. Uh good evening, President

1214
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:09,680
Harden, members of council. Um what this

1215
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:11,119
ordinance does is it modifies our

1216
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,160
compensation agreement of Norwich

1217
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:20,480
Township. Back in the 2000s, um the city

1218
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:23,920
passed a big derby revenue funding or

1219
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,839
funding plan. And in that plan, we

1220
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,559
committed to hold Norwich Township

1221
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:32,559
harmless on any tiffs we put in place to

1222
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:34,720
do pay as we grow type of development.

1223
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:38,480
Um

1224
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,599
I I equate it to when we do a non-school

1225
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:45,680
tiff, we make the schools whole. This is

1226
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:49,200
really a um tiff. This this is making

1227
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:54,319
the Norwich Township fire levy whole per

1228
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:56,000
that agreement. So what this is is a um

1229
00:55:54,319 --> 00:55:58,720
commitment of the tiff dollars that are

1230
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,359
being generated. what it is not. It is

1231
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,599
not a provision of any type of mutual

1232
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:06,160
aid between the city and Norwich

1233
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:07,200
Township. I'd be happy to answer any

1234
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,119
questions.

1235
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,359
» Thank you uh for that, director. And I'm

1236
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:13,359
sure there will be uh questions. We do

1237
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:14,319
have uh two speakers on this council

1238
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:15,920
president. So, I'm going to call those

1239
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:18,079
speakers up and then I think if my

1240
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,240
colleagues have any questions uh or

1241
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:22,079
comments, we'll uh defer there because I

1242
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:24,319
believe maybe some of the uh questions

1243
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,520
may be addressed by our two speakers.

1244
00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:28,880
So, with that, first I'm going to call

1245
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:32,839
Mark Maddox. uh with our local 67

1246
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,839
firefighters union.

1247
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:39,760
Mark, welcome to council. Yes, sir.

1248
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,880
Welcome to council. Uh you have three

1249
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,160
minutes. Um and the floor is yours.

1250
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,760
» All right. Uh first of all, I'd like to

1251
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,599
thank council for hearing me. Also like

1252
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,200
to thank President Harden for being here

1253
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,880
and safety director Remy. Um, I'd like

1254
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,040
to first of all, I'd like to thank City

1255
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,000
of Columbus for uh giving a Westside kid

1256
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,640
a job 29 years ago. So, appreciate it.

1257
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,319
25 years on the west side. I'm here in

1258
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,880
opposition for the second phase of Sher

1259
00:57:02,319 --> 00:57:06,799
Farms ordinance.

1260
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,640
This is not how we grow. When I got

1261
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:14,000
hired in 1997, we had 690,000 people.

1262
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,799
Now, we got 940,000 people. We built

1263
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,079
three stations for growth since that

1264
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:21,839
time. one of them last week.

1265
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,000
Just the way simple put it is the city

1266
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:27,760
of Toledo's got 260,000 people and they

1267
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,359
got 15 fire stations. Okay. The west

1268
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,400
side the west side of Columbus hadn't

1269
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:35,280
had a new station for gross since 1975.

1270
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:39,200
Station 7 26.

1271
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:40,799
There's no uh new rec centers, no sleep

1272
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,680
substations, nothing on the west side,

1273
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:46,240
that far west side. The city of Columbus

1274
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,680
20 years ago gave a five-year plan. They

1275
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:52,799
wanted to build a station at Alton 7,000

1276
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,200
numbers west street that would remy this

1277
00:57:52,799 --> 00:57:57,359
problem right now. This problem right

1278
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:01,040
now we represent the city of Columbus.

1279
00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:02,799
We are local 6700 strong.

1280
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,799
We

1281
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:06,400
should not have another municipality

1282
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:10,079
running the city of Columbus taking our

1283
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,200
runs. We take 180,000 runs a year. 20%

1284
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:12,799
of them are taken by other

1285
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,359
municipalities.

1286
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:17,440
different SOPs, different radio

1287
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:22,640
channels, just the way we do things

1288
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:24,880
different. It's a safety issue for us.

1289
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,680
Local 67 met with the Great Westside

1290
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,359
Commission. We talked about this issue.

1291
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,960
They they informed us that they were

1292
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:33,440
against this. The first time it went

1293
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,760
around, they informed us they are still

1294
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,400
against this. So, your own commission's

1295
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,799
against it. Your local city 1700 member

1296
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,520
fire department's against it. Basically

1297
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:47,640
the gist of it is we're giving our work

1298
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,640
to another another entity.

1299
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:55,119
Do my do I'm asking council now do not

1300
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,839
make this the model that 20% is going to

1301
00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:00,400
grow. If you make this the model what's

1302
00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:03,359
next Hamilton Madison and then you got

1303
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,640
to be Franklin Township had three

1304
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:08,640
stations in 1975 they got one. We're

1305
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,359
short three station from the west side

1306
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,839
according to your matrix report. I just

1307
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:16,240
put it simple as this. We do a six and a

1308
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:17,760
half month academy. We sit there and

1309
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,839
look at the mission statement, our value

1310
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,520
statement every single day. When you get

1311
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:23,760
promoted on this fire department, you

1312
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,000
got to memorize the mission statement

1313
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,880
and value statement. I don't think a

1314
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,280
township with 2100 residents with three

1315
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,880
trustees and a financial director has

1316
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,440
the best interest from them 1100

1317
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,760
members. They get city trash. They get

1318
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,400
city police, city water, and now we made

1319
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,720
a model for them to take the fire

1320
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,280
department. All due respect, this

1321
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,599
council voted no for a labor dispute

1322
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:52,440
over one fire truck for 61 people. We

1323
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:52,440
got 1,700 against it. Thank you.

1324
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,319
» Thank you, uh, Mr. Maddox. Next, we have

1325
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:03,319
John, uh, Guri, who is here with us with

1326
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:03,319
Local 67 Firefighters Union as well.

1327
01:00:04,506 --> 01:00:06,720
» [clears throat]

1328
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,440
» John, good to see you again. Welcome,

1329
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,599
council.

1330
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,599
» Thank you,

1331
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:16,799
Council President Harden, members of

1332
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:18,000
council. Uh my name is John Guro,

1333
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:20,480
secretary treasure, Columbus

1334
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:24,160
Firefighters, Local 67. I come before

1335
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:27,040
you uh this evening disapp both uh

1336
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:29,920
disappointed uh and grateful. I'm

1337
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:32,319
disappointed that this is uh even being

1338
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,880
considered by council. Uh, but I'm

1339
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:37,440
grateful to the residents of Hillyard uh

1340
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,079
in Norwich Township for passing a fire

1341
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,760
levy to staff the fire station that was

1342
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:45,839
built last year uh in Norwich Township

1343
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,640
funded by the city of Columbus by which

1344
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:50,319
this council was a party to

1345
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,480
without the residents of Hillyard and

1346
01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:56,480
Norwich agreeing to raise their property

1347
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:59,599
taxes to staff this firehouse.

1348
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,280
the firehouse that was built funding

1349
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:04,160
which the city of Columbus and this

1350
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,079
council agreed

1351
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,160
the Columbus neighborhood sugar farms

1352
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:10,000
would be without adequate fire and EMS

1353
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,680
coverage.

1354
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,440
To be clear, this legislation

1355
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,480
we consider as adversarial to the

1356
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,480
Columbus Firefighters Union by by

1357
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,200
furthering the city boundaries for

1358
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,280
needed development,

1359
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:29,520
but contracting out public safety

1360
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,960
services to do to serve those new areas

1361
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,440
of the city should be considered

1362
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,240
reckless.

1363
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:39,359
I know there is not a member on council

1364
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,960
here tonight that would agree to subbing

1365
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:44,000
out

1366
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,400
policing to any area of the city

1367
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,240
to where crime data was not trackable.

1368
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,880
However,

1369
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,400
that is exactly what takes place when

1370
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,880
the city of Columbus continues to

1371
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:58,000
overrely on other agencies for basic

1372
01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:01,040
fire and EMS services. There's no way to

1373
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:04,559
track cardiac survivor rates, basic

1374
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:07,359
lifesaving interventions, and to ensure

1375
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,520
that these areas of Columbus are

1376
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:11,200
receiving the highest care through the

1377
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,920
protocols of the Columbus Division of

1378
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,480
Fire. Every day in the city, uh, every

1379
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:20,319
day,

1380
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,799
city code ordinance 312423,

1381
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:25,760
so that's 3124.23

1382
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:29,200
is violated. And then I read it in part

1383
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:31,440
that fire fire response in all areas of

1384
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,599
the city uh be greater no greater than

1385
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,880
four minutes. Uh emergency medical

1386
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:41,200
services in all in all parts of the city

1387
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:44,079
uh be no greater than six minutes.

1388
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:47,040
It goes on and I in part that that

1389
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:49,200
services provided by other agencies

1390
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,680
shall be provided by permanently

1391
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,079
assigned full-time crews with staffing

1392
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,960
levels and training comparable to the

1393
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:59,440
city to the crews of in Columbus. Uh

1394
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,359
that's not happening. Thank you. Every

1395
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,720
neighborhood

1396
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:07,359
in the expanding city of Columbus should

1397
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:10,480
never should I'm sorry should experience

1398
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:13,040
the best of safety services.

1399
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,160
I believe that that's achieved by

1400
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,760
counting on the men and women of the

1401
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Columbus Division of Fire rather than ex

1402
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:25,039
rather than expanding neighborhoods

1403
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:29,200
that are serviced by contracting out

1404
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:31,599
um fire and EMS as mentioned. Uh I find

1405
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,240
this uh to be adversarial and I

1406
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:36,000
respectfully ask for a negative vote.

1407
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,400
Thank you.

1408
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,039
» Uh thank you uh John and again thank you

1409
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,119
to our firefighters. Any questions for

1410
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:45,200
our speakers at this time? All right.

1411
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:48,720
Cena, I think we'll have some discussion

1412
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:51,280
here with the department as well. Um

1413
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,960
again, I do want to probably point to

1414
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,760
safety. I'll open it up for my

1415
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,599
colleagues here. Uh but director Stevens

1416
01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,400
just want to to make clear this

1417
01:03:57,599 --> 01:04:03,039
particular ordinance is simply around

1418
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:06,400
tiffs. It doesn't change anything around

1419
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:08,000
mutual aid or uh any of that. Uh and

1420
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,920
then again I do want to go to the

1421
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:13,599
department of safety to really talk more

1422
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,280
about I think uh as we continue to grow

1423
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:17,119
uh particularly maybe you could be more

1424
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,839
specific on around the west side what

1425
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:22,240
our plans are there and mutual aid and

1426
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:23,359
then um have my colleagues ask any

1427
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,200
questions they may have. Director

1428
01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:27,359
Stevenson.

1429
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:31,119
» Thank you, Chair Bankston.

1430
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:33,440
This ordinance does not have any impact

1431
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:35,440
or effect on mutual aid. There is no

1432
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,160
agreement.

1433
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,839
This agreement that we're amending does

1434
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,720
not

1435
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:48,720
uh have any provision for delivering of

1436
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:51,280
safety services through this. These are

1437
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:54,559
property tax dollars that due to the

1438
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,799
tiff are exempted that if it was the

1439
01:04:54,559 --> 01:05:00,400
tiff was not in place, Norwich Township

1440
01:04:56,799 --> 01:05:02,720
would be receiving these dollars um

1441
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,039
without the tiff.

1442
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:07,680
» Got it. And so just again for a layman's

1443
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:11,200
term standpoint, this there was a new

1444
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,640
tiff created as it expanded. Uh we we

1445
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,000
dissolve the old tiff and we're just

1446
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,039
shifting everything so that just under

1447
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,799
it's clean and it's under one tiff. uh

1448
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,599
agreement. Correct.

1449
01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:22,240
» That's correct.

1450
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:25,920
» Gotcha. But I do think uh to our

1451
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,359
firefighters uh point uh this is a a

1452
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,240
point for us to have a discussion around

1453
01:05:27,359 --> 01:05:32,400
growth uh and and what we do to address

1454
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,200
uh service coverage. Uh so I'm looking

1455
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:38,559
at our department uh of safety. Can you

1456
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,960
speak to uh some of our growth strategy

1457
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:43,359
particularly on the west side uh and

1458
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,200
also kind of the administration's

1459
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:50,400
thoughts around mutual aid and

1460
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,839
and your just philosophy there?

1461
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,400
» Thank you, President Harden, Chair

1462
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:56,400
Bankston. Um I appreciate the question.

1463
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,119
As it pertains to mutual aid in general,

1464
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,799
our our the overall objective of mutual

1465
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,520
aid is to get the closest most

1466
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:04,799
appropriate resource to the individual

1467
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,520
when seconds and minutes counts

1468
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:08,960
regardless of jurisdictions. Uh most of

1469
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,559
the jurisdictions or some of the

1470
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,000
jurisdictions here in central Ohio also

1471
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:13,920
practice that as well as throughout the

1472
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,839
country to ensure that the re the

1473
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,599
adequate resources get to the patients

1474
01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:19,920
the quickest and the individuals

1475
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:22,319
regardless of the circumstance. That's

1476
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,200
the same on the west side as it is

1477
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:27,039
throughout the city of Columbus. Um, and

1478
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,880
as it pertains to your the first part of

1479
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:31,520
your question, what are the plans for

1480
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:34,480
the west side in particular? Uh, last

1481
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,400
month we added a far westside station to

1482
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,799
our capital improvement plan to address

1483
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:41,200
the growth on that side. So, pending

1484
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:43,599
funding opportunities. Um, our goal is

1485
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:47,119
to expand on that side, the same as we

1486
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:49,039
have with station 35 and station 36 in

1487
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:50,240
the northeast.

1488
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:52,160
» Thank you for that. I'm going to open

1489
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,319
the floor up to my colleagues for any

1490
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,720
questions. President Pro Tim Doran.

1491
01:06:54,319 --> 01:06:59,200
» Thank you, Chair. So to that point about

1492
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,760
the mutual aid agreements themselves, so

1493
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,280
Bahiri about how those standards get set

1494
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,599
up on the front end, but something I've

1495
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,119
heard from folks from the IFFF over the

1496
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:09,200
years is just, you know, it's one thing

1497
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:10,319
to have those things um those agreements

1498
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,839
in place, it's another thing to make

1499
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:14,640
sure that folks are consistently

1500
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:15,920
following them. So when they say um hey

1501
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,079
you know they're not responding with the

1502
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,440
same type of staffing levels that we

1503
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:21,200
think is appropriate that we hold

1504
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,799
ourselves to what is the department do

1505
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,400
to sort of monitor those things to make

1506
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:25,920
sure that you know these mutual aid

1507
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,079
agreements are not just you know in

1508
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,359
writing that an actual day-to-day that

1509
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:31,200
the residents that are being served by

1510
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:33,039
them are getting the same level of

1511
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,839
service between whether or not they have

1512
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:37,920
a you know EMS unit that's got CFD on it

1513
01:07:35,839 --> 01:07:40,240
versus you know some other you know fire

1514
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,160
department or fire division.

1515
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,319
» Thank you council member Dorne. If I

1516
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:47,119
could, uh, interim chief Dave Ball is

1517
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:48,640
here. Um, that may be a question that's

1518
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,400
more appropriate for the day-to-day

1519
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:55,160
operations and that I think he could

1520
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,160
answer. You could come up.

1521
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,920
Good evening. Thank you for the

1522
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,440
opportunity to uh answer that question.

1523
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,719
Um

1524
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,600
when uh when we have uh mutual aid or

1525
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:25,440
automatic aid agreements with 23

1526
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,600
township partners in the central Ohio

1527
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:32,719
area and we meet regularly with the

1528
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:35,759
Frank County Fire Chiefs Association

1529
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:39,040
where one of our members um actively

1530
01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:43,120
participates in those regular meetings

1531
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:45,440
and one of the subcommittees of that um

1532
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:48,000
greater organization is a best practices

1533
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:51,440
committee to make sure that we're

1534
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:54,719
operating under the same standards. And

1535
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:58,480
for for brevity, Columbus drives the bus

1536
01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:00,880
on that. So, our SOPs and our procedures

1537
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:03,679
drive the expectations of our township

1538
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:06,000
response partners and we do our best to

1539
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:08,799
make sure that we are working together

1540
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,359
to address those concerns. Um and

1541
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:14,799
actively as we speak, we are planning

1542
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:16,960
and preparing for a joint training

1543
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:20,480
session with Norwich Township and

1544
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:24,319
Columbus Fire um for training fire

1545
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:25,679
ground operations on the far west side.

1546
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:28,560
» Did you have any other questions for

1547
01:09:25,679 --> 01:09:31,040
operations for me?

1548
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,960
» President, do you have a followup or

1549
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,080
» Yeah. So I I guess like to that point.

1550
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,440
you're talking about from an

1551
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,679
administrative standpoint, there's a

1552
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:40,239
sort of an ongoing sort of regular

1553
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:42,159
check-in. Um, does that focus on again

1554
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,520
that day-to-day like staffing level? So,

1555
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,960
is that the kind of information that's

1556
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,440
shared at those meetings down to that

1557
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,799
granular level of how many runs, who was

1558
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:50,880
staffing those runs, what was the

1559
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:52,000
outcomes? Because again, I know one of

1560
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,759
the points of pride for our fire

1561
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,520
division is that uh we're able to track

1562
01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:58,000
all that information and being able to

1563
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,920
really identify, you know, really the

1564
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,760
exemplary job that our firefighters do

1565
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:03,199
on a regular basis and where where the

1566
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,120
areas for improvement. I'm just curious,

1567
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,560
are we getting that level of of detail

1568
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,239
and information back from those folks

1569
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,960
that are performing, you know, those

1570
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:13,520
services under a mutual aid agreement?

1571
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,679
probably not on every run, but you know

1572
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,960
on major runs that have a large impact,

1573
01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:21,040
we do have that dialogue between their

1574
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,640
administrative staff and our

1575
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,000
administrative staff.

1576
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,360
» Is there anything that's preventing us

1577
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,360
from getting that level of information

1578
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,280
on a regular basis or is it just not

1579
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,400
what we currently do?

1580
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:35,920
» It it would depend on the

1581
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,280
complexity of the incident. Um, it's

1582
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,239
something that I can look into and

1583
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,800
report back later, but right now I think

1584
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:47,280
those just the complex runs are the ones

1585
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:49,040
that are scrutinized and um reviewed

1586
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:52,239
after an incident.

1587
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,199
» Thank you, Chair. May I ask a question

1588
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:54,000
of Director Stevens?

1589
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,560
» Yeah, absolutely.

1590
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,920
» Great. D Stevens, just uh try to make

1591
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,560
this as plain as possible because when

1592
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:03,120
we start getting into 403bs and tiffs

1593
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,800
and all these kinds of things. So, um to

1594
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,440
to make it very very plain what

1595
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,960
essentially um and again I not I don't

1596
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,719
want to put the words in anyone's mouth

1597
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,640
of other folks that testified here

1598
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:15,679
tonight, but essentially the legislation

1599
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,360
here carves out those fire levy dollars

1600
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:19,440
for this township. Right? So,

1601
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,440
essentially this legislation prevents

1602
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,199
those fire levy dollars from going into

1603
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:25,040
the tiff which then can be used for

1604
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:28,239
other types of reimburseable purposes

1605
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,080
such as you know roads um you utility

1606
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:32,320
improvements those kind of things. And I

1607
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,920
think if if I'm interpreting the

1608
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:37,120
comments from our folks from IFF

1609
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,560
correctly is that by allowing us to

1610
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,679
enter these agreements and carving out

1611
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,400
those dollars, we're essentially

1612
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:45,600
incentivizing more and more mutual aid

1613
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,600
through that type of carve out.

1614
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,920
So don't comment at the second part. I'm

1615
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,679
just want to make sure that um you're

1616
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,199
responding to just very plainly like

1617
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:56,159
what council is essentially considering

1618
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:58,480
here.

1619
01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:02,080
uh you are considering the amendment to

1620
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:04,480
the compensation agreement that uh

1621
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,239
changes the level of tiff. So before it

1622
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:08,320
had a commercial component now it's all

1623
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:11,840
housing. When it goes to all housing we

1624
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:14,080
have um policy in place where we are

1625
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,880
making sure that the fire levy at

1626
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,320
Norwich Township is is being made whole

1627
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:22,560
essentially. So no city dollars are

1628
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,800
being contributed to Norwich Township.

1629
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,400
Norwich Township is just receiving the

1630
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,880
dollars that they would have received

1631
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:31,280
without the TIFF. Uh this is the

1632
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:34,159
property tax levy that is that is in

1633
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:36,960
place and how they are what I'd say made

1634
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:39,120
whole. Um

1635
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:42,080
it's not a

1636
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,239
um at this point those when this

1637
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,320
property is annexed and and for the case

1638
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:48,400
of Sugar Farm, those are Columbus

1639
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,960
residents and when they call 911 they

1640
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:53,120
are get the same safety service response

1641
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,480
as all Columbus residents get.

1642
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,159
» And again the the reason this is

1643
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:58,320
necessary is because again prior to the

1644
01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:00,640
annexation this was in Norse Township.

1645
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:03,520
So that property tax would have flowed

1646
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,320
to um that fire levy. They're annexed

1647
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,800
in. So therefore they by by virtue of

1648
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:11,199
that annexation this no longer Norwich

1649
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,679
property. So therefore those dollars

1650
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:15,520
would not flow to that fire levy absent

1651
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:17,280
this piece of legislation. Correct.

1652
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,840
» Um

1653
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:22,000
just just put a fine point on it. After

1654
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,960
the annexation they are still within

1655
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,640
Norwich Township. So those levy dollars

1656
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,840
would still be received by Norwich

1657
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,080
Township after annexation. It's the tax

1658
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:35,440
increment financing that exempts those

1659
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:37,840
levy dollars to the tiff fund that is

1660
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:40,480
then going back to the township.

1661
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,320
» Thank you. I I think that the the issue

1662
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:44,239
with this or the qu the the the problem

1663
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,840
is we're having one real conversation

1664
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,280
here about reality around how we do

1665
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,080
these tiff agreements, but we're having

1666
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,400
a much larger 30,000 foot conversation

1667
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,360
around what the city believes, what are

1668
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,040
our values as it pertains to mutual aid.

1669
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,679
And I and so I can see how that is

1670
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:03,520
getting completed is the fact that um

1671
01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:05,120
related to this or not, North built a

1672
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,840
fire station right on the other side of

1673
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:11,199
the city limit and now you know general

1674
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:13,520
20% of our uh calls are for mutual aid

1675
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:16,000
and so this is just kind of a question

1676
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:18,239
for I guess public safety. Under our

1677
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,520
strategy right now is 20% of our calls

1678
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:24,600
being answered by other fire

1679
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,600
departments. Is that too many?

1680
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,280
President Harden, we've had a hard

1681
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,280
conversation within public safety about

1682
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,440
how to reduce that number. Some things

1683
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,360
can be policy driven or procedure driven

1684
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:37,840
on how dispatching goes. The other part

1685
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:41,679
of that is expansion. So, station 35,

1686
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:43,679
station 36 and all future stations near

1687
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:46,080
um annexed areas or within annexed areas

1688
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:48,640
will reduce that number. But at the end

1689
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,480
of the day, I don't think we can and I

1690
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,640
wouldn't advocate to put a specific

1691
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:54,320
number on the amount of mutual aid

1692
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:57,280
because we just don't know what'll

1693
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:59,840
happen. Um, and to be precise about it,

1694
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,640
station 83, which is Norwich Township,

1695
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,360
station 83 is directly across from the

1696
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,520
Hayden Run neighborhood area. So if an

1697
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,280
individual over there has an emergency

1698
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,560
that requires seconds or minutes to

1699
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,800
resolve, um I don't think that our

1700
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,960
policy would best serve the residents of

1701
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:20,159
Columbus if we made them wait any

1702
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:22,239
appreciable time. So our goal is and

1703
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:24,560
will be to ensure that the closest most

1704
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:27,280
appropriate unit to mitigate that

1705
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,800
emergency can respond. Now the one great

1706
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,480
thing that we have within the division

1707
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,199
of fire is the ability to look at our

1708
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:36,000
data and analyze it. So maybe certain

1709
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:38,719
emergencies don't need a 4 minute and 30

1710
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,199
second response time. It can wait for 5

1711
01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:43,760
minutes and 15 seconds. So that's the

1712
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:46,880
ongoing conversation is how best to

1713
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,719
deploy the resources moving forward now

1714
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,719
that we have greater insight with our

1715
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:51,920
data. And I think that part of the issue

1716
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:54,400
also is that we're having these

1717
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,880
conversations in silos because we don't

1718
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,400
know what our five-year or 10-year plan

1719
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:02,159
is for when we're going to build the

1720
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:04,000
next fire station and how and and where.

1721
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:06,960
It allows for these conversations to

1722
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:10,719
look like that Norwich fire station was

1723
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:12,400
built to serve that that community. uh

1724
01:16:10,719 --> 01:16:14,800
sugar farms like do we know what

1725
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:18,480
percentage of calls will from this

1726
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:21,920
Norwich Township uh fire station will

1727
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:24,239
serve sugar farms?

1728
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:27,840
» I I don't think I can predict that, but

1729
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:30,719
I can say that there's been about 360

1730
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,480
mutual aid calls responded by Norwich

1731
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:34,960
Township into the city of Columbus so

1732
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:36,800
far this year. And overall over the last

1733
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,320
three years, it's been between 6 and

1734
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:43,280
700. Um I don't know the exact amount

1735
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,800
into the sugar farms area. Um and I

1736
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,719
don't believe that I could accurately

1737
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,760
predict what that could be into the

1738
01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:49,199
future.

1739
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,199
» Yeah. I mean because that again that

1740
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:53,199
that that's the the challenge here is

1741
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:56,159
that no one I don't think anyone on this

1742
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:58,640
dis I I'm not even sure anyone in any

1743
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:00,320
union or anywhere else would say that if

1744
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,159
someone is in need someone across the

1745
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,360
street shouldn't come over and help. The

1746
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:09,199
question is, are we creating a a ethos

1747
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:13,120
here at the city that is over reliant on

1748
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:16,800
uh these smaller townships and their

1749
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:18,080
services? And not saying that um that

1750
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,840
our residents aren't getting good

1751
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,320
service, but we do know that our

1752
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,320
firefighters are the best and we want

1753
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:29,440
the best for uh service uh at times, but

1754
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:31,280
also uh outcomes and performance uh to

1755
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:33,840
be given to Columbus residents. And so

1756
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:36,640
this is this is it's a it's a difficult

1757
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:39,040
question not based off of this tip in

1758
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,199
front of us but the larger uh

1759
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,800
conversation that it it does and should

1760
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:44,239
elicit. I mean it's one of the reasons

1761
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,800
why we're having the public hearing on

1762
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:48,880
Thursday because uh there's a

1763
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,800
conversation on how do we have do we

1764
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,199
have enough apparatuses to go into

1765
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:57,199
stations? When is the next station? It

1766
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:59,199
is not again it's not the fact that um

1767
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:00,719
we don't have a fire station out there.

1768
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:02,560
we is that we don't know when the next

1769
01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:04,640
one is coming and where it is going so

1770
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:07,679
that it it would help instruct council

1771
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,920
as we make votes every week around more

1772
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:11,360
housing and this is a larger growth

1773
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,159
conversation that I think we're all

1774
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,640
struggling with here um and trying to

1775
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:19,520
make sure that we are not leaning too

1776
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:22,239
hard on this

1777
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,840
failsafe

1778
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:26,880
this this should be an emergency usage

1779
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:29,520
not a uh planned policy

1780
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:34,239
» Well and council president I to that

1781
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:37,360
point. I think does it desent

1782
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:40,560
does it deincentivize Thank you. It's

1783
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:42,800
hard to be bilingual. Um for us to then

1784
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:45,920
continue to build fire stations because

1785
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:48,320
if we have that mutual aid and we have

1786
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,400
that Norwich that is serving our

1787
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,920
residents, then are we going to

1788
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,159
depprioritize

1789
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,920
building the fire stations in an area

1790
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:58,800
because we have that mutual aid? And I

1791
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,880
think that's I think to the point of our

1792
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:03,120
union members, I think that's part of

1793
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:06,000
the fear. Certainly, I think for me in

1794
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,760
our thinking is if we think, okay, well,

1795
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,600
we have this fire station there that's

1796
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,040
going to serve this area, then let's go

1797
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,679
build a fire station over here instead

1798
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,440
of over here. Does that how does that

1799
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:18,080
square, I guess, into our thinking and

1800
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:19,520
the methodology around how we prioritize

1801
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,840
where those fire stations are going to

1802
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:24,239
go?

1803
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,440
» Thank you for the question. Um, we have

1804
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:27,040
since I've been at the Department of

1805
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:29,440
Public Safety over the last few years,

1806
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:32,400
there has not been any conversation that

1807
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:34,239
has included reliance on mutual aid

1808
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,960
partners looking forward into the future

1809
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:39,679
as to where stations will be. In other

1810
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:44,239
words, we look at Columbus data and we

1811
01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:46,640
base um the location of the station um

1812
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:50,400
on the guiding principle within 34

1813
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:53,040
3124.23 23 the city code um which

1814
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:56,000
secretary treasurer Groy read which sets

1815
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,080
forth a goal for fire response for four

1816
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,719
minutes within the city and EMS response

1817
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,960
within 6 minutes. So we analyze areas

1818
01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:04,880
where those response times are beyond

1819
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,960
four and 6 minutes and then that's where

1820
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:11,040
we look to where the station will be or

1821
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:14,480
could be but the cost of property is

1822
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:16,320
quite high. So, um, in a space, we need

1823
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:19,120
anywhere between 1 and a half and 4

1824
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,840
acres of land for a fire station. So,

1825
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:26,440
our our, um, opportunities are pretty

1826
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,440
limited in some areas of the city.

1827
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,800
» Oh, thank you, Chair. Um, Director

1828
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:39,360
Stevens, I just want to I just want to

1829
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:42,640
clarify. Sorry. Um, so the so what we're

1830
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,199
doing right now when we annexed in this

1831
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,280
property for Sugar Farms, is it just

1832
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:50,640
standard operating procedure? They

1833
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:52,480
already had they they had this money

1834
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,760
that would fund the township fire. I

1835
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:57,040
think that's what I'm hearing from you

1836
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:58,880
that it is

1837
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,320
that we have an obligation to continue

1838
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,560
paying that because technically there's

1839
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:06,040
still township and so is that why these

1840
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,040
dollars are transferring

1841
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:09,840
» Or or is that an agreement that we made

1842
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,719
when the

1843
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:16,640
» When the land was annexed or

1844
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:19,360
» So part of the Derby revenue plan um

1845
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:22,080
that was passed in the 2000s was to make

1846
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:24,000
sure when we put in tax increment

1847
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,320
financing to help make infrastructure

1848
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,560
investments as well as new community

1849
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,920
authorities to help

1850
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,360
have those developers make their

1851
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,920
commitment to the public infrastructure

1852
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:38,239
that needs to be built. Uh part of that

1853
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:40,719
plan called for taking the

1854
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:45,440
fire levy dollars that were would

1855
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:47,600
typically go to the township that is

1856
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:49,840
then being redirected to the tax

1857
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,639
increment financing fund sent giving

1858
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,320
that back to the township.

1859
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:56,880
» So then so that was a plan that was

1860
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,560
created in 2000 and essentially we're

1861
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,000
we're not voting on that plan tonight.

1862
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,000
We're essentially just doing the

1863
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:09,440
that that was the late 2000s. The Derby

1864
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:12,800
revenue plan was adopted as policy. This

1865
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:14,480
is an agreement that captures what that

1866
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,639
policy is and the commitment we're

1867
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:19,440
making and gives us the way to take

1868
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:21,280
those levy dollars and redirect them

1869
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:24,760
back to Norwich Township.

1870
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,760
» Got it. Thanks,

1871
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:33,120
» Council Member

1872
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:35,679
Remy. Well, I you know, I certainly want

1873
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:37,679
to acknowledge what our firefighter the

1874
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:40,320
IAFF brought up tonight because this is

1875
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:42,960
a broader discussion that needs to

1876
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,040
happen. Uh we need to know what the plan

1877
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,000
is and we've had a couple of matrix

1878
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:50,639
reports that have been issued and to my

1879
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,440
knowledge they're not being looked at

1880
01:22:50,639 --> 01:22:56,400
very closely. And so, you know, as our

1881
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:59,360
population is burgeoning around the

1882
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,360
community, um certain parts we address

1883
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:04,000
that up in the far northeast quadrant,

1884
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:06,719
which is one of the fastest growing um

1885
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:09,840
se segments of the city, but so is this.

1886
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:12,880
And so, you know, the concern here is

1887
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:15,600
real and we take that seriously. But

1888
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,560
obviously as Columbus continues to grow,

1889
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:24,000
we've got to be clear to both our

1890
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:26,000
residents and to this body what is next.

1891
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,120
And I feel like that's where we're

1892
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,600
missing out right now. Um, you know,

1893
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:35,199
obviously mutual aid is a tool for

1894
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:37,360
cooperation and backup, but it is not

1895
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:39,840
something that this fire division of

1896
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:42,080
fire should rely on, and it's not a

1897
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,080
replacement for long-term planning.

1898
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,520
And that's what I feel like often times

1899
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,320
happens. So to the council president's

1900
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,679
point when he talks about you know well

1901
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,440
somebody brought up I forget who said it

1902
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:54,480
but you know when we talk about you know

1903
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:57,840
if oh president but yeah it was her uh

1904
01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:00,000
when we talk about you know where our

1905
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:02,560
their mutual aid is and where we're

1906
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,920
building our stations.

1907
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:07,520
I don't even know what the answer of

1908
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:10,159
that is exactly and I'm the chair.

1909
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,719
So, you know, but when it comes to this

1910
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:14,719
ordinance tonight, it's m, you know,

1911
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:17,199
that's a broader conversation that needs

1912
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:19,920
to happen and will happen under this

1913
01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:21,760
committee. But this ordinance obviously

1914
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,960
is an administrative change that has a

1915
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:28,480
much finer point to it um that you know

1916
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:31,120
I'm prepared to support. But I just

1917
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:33,520
think that we've got a larger issue to

1918
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,600
tackle that needs to have a broader

1919
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,000
conversation with all of us, with the

1920
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,320
administration and with our partners at

1921
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:43,280
the IFFF and and our and our division of

1922
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:45,360
fire because whether we need, you know,

1923
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,639
additional infrastructure, whether we

1924
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,840
need, you know, obviously we're going to

1925
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:50,880
have a hearing on Thursday about

1926
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:53,520
equipment and condition of our of our

1927
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,600
facilities, but certainly we want to

1928
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:58,239
make sure that we're planning for the

1929
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:00,800
future and not getting caught up in

1930
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:04,320
these discussions on administrative

1931
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:07,600
changes to a tiff and that's what I want

1932
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:09,520
to see us avoid in the future.

1933
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,840
» Council member W and not really a

1934
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:13,840
question related to this but uh council

1935
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,920
member I think it would be helpful if we

1936
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,600
have more discussion during your hearing

1937
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,080
around mutual aid and what that looks

1938
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:22,880
like. It does feel like the

1939
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:26,000
administration is

1940
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:28,400
using this as plan A for parts of the

1941
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:30,800
city where they do not intend to build

1942
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,600
another station and there is this

1943
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,280
disincentive where if there is a fire

1944
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,159
station right across the street in

1945
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:40,320
another township why would we also build

1946
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:42,800
the station in the same area. So I think

1947
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:45,840
that needs to be discussed broadly. If

1948
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:48,000
it is around us designating land

1949
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,760
specifically for public safety in areas

1950
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,280
that we're growing, that's what we

1951
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,960
should be doing as a community. We can

1952
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,520
do it with parkland. We should be doing

1953
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,280
public safety as well. So that we know

1954
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,360
when we are growing in different parts

1955
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:01,040
of the city, there is going to be

1956
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:04,080
adequate public safety resources

1957
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:06,080
available to people. this idea that we

1958
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,920
should be comfortable saying, "Well, a

1959
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:10,880
five minute five minutes to your house

1960
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,719
is okay when floor is preferred." No, I

1961
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,560
want you there immediately, right? I

1962
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:16,719
when I call with an emergency, I don't

1963
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,800
want you to play the game of what

1964
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:20,480
station do we go to? I want the nearest

1965
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,239
Columbus Fire Department station to

1966
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:23,600
react and come to my home. I think

1967
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:25,679
everyone who lives in the city feels

1968
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,520
that same way. So, I I do think we need

1969
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:28,800
to have additional discussion. I don't

1970
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,719
think now is the time to kind of get

1971
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,360
deep into that. This is an agreement

1972
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:36,400
that has been in place for a while and

1973
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:39,440
you know sadly I think we are conflating

1974
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:44,400
issues uh that have to have some deeper

1975
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:46,719
discussion in the future. So thank you.

1976
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,360
I just wanted to

1977
01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:51,920
I think council member you hit the nail

1978
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:54,080
on the head and I think you know even in

1979
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,639
the department of public service whether

1980
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,480
it is because we need to acquire land

1981
01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:00,719
for retention ponds or we need to do

1982
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:02,960
other things I think that that needs to

1983
01:27:00,719 --> 01:27:05,280
be part of the thinking especially in

1984
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:08,239
for the for the areas

1985
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,960
I will be honest I just don't trust that

1986
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:13,199
if we have a fire station right there

1987
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,719
why and we are looking at other places,

1988
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:17,280
right? If you're thinking about a fiscal

1989
01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:18,800
decision, not always putting, you know,

1990
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,239
not thinking about people decisions, but

1991
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,639
thinking about fiscal decisions, which

1992
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:25,760
sometimes we gear towards those fiscal

1993
01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:27,840
and lean into fiscal decisions. I just

1994
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,239
it's difficult for me to see that we

1995
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,320
would make if we haven't done it yet,

1996
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:34,719
why would we now? And I think that's

1997
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,920
what we're hearing from our firefighters

1998
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:38,320
union. And I think that's what you're

1999
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:42,000
hearing from council here is how do we

2000
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:43,760
then start to think differently about um

2001
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,760
acquiring that land? How do we start

2002
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,679
thinking differently about those plans

2003
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,239
in the future? And I think to your

2004
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:52,480
point, I think that needs to be chair. I

2005
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:54,960
hope that is part of the conversation as

2006
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:56,960
we continue to move forward because this

2007
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,719
is something that isn't it's not just a

2008
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,239
safety issue, it's a housing issue. It's

2009
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:02,000
everything. I mean, when we talk about

2010
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:03,280
zoning, when folks come in, what do they

2011
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,280
talk to us about? They talk about

2012
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,000
infrastructure. They talk about safety.

2013
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,679
They talk about all of the I I'm going

2014
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,600
to use amenities, which is not amenities

2015
01:28:09,679 --> 01:28:13,440
because these are basic needs, but that

2016
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,360
people need, right, and the services and

2017
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:18,960
the city services that they need. And so

2018
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:20,400
I think it is um I agree that in this

2019
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,679
particular tiff, we have these

2020
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,679
opportunities when we talk about

2021
01:28:21,679 --> 01:28:24,960
something, there is a domino effect in

2022
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:26,639
everything that it is that we're doing.

2023
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,719
And so this does provide us the

2024
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:30,560
opportunity to talk about larger issues.

2025
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:32,400
I think in this particular instance,

2026
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,480
right, we're here to talk about this

2027
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:38,480
tiff and what this tiff does, but I do

2028
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:40,639
think that this is and to our to our

2029
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:43,440
union members who are here. I think that

2030
01:28:40,639 --> 01:28:44,880
this council has shown the support for

2031
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,400
you and for what it is that you're

2032
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,960
doing. And I think that you have the

2033
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,480
continued support certainly from me of

2034
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,080
thinking about how do we resolve the

2035
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:55,760
issue that you're bringing before us

2036
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:58,080
now. Um I hope it's not adversarial.

2037
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,960
That is not the intention as we talk

2038
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:04,159
about this particular tiff and our um

2039
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:06,719
you know support of it today as we think

2040
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:09,120
about what the longer term solve is.

2041
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:11,520
» No. And and I think uh council members

2042
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,199
that's exactly why you know we postponed

2043
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,520
this last week to I think get everyone

2044
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:16,880
briefed to have this discussion also

2045
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,280
knowing that we're having a larger

2046
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,120
discussion around fire service on

2047
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:24,320
Thursday. Uh but more importantly, I

2048
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,719
think this uh talks about uh our uh

2049
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:28,639
annexation policy. It is both always

2050
01:29:26,719 --> 01:29:31,280
talked about as a blessing and a curse.

2051
01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:32,880
When you think about uh the annexation

2052
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,800
policy that was put in place that said

2053
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,719
if you get sewer or water from Columbus,

2054
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,719
you have to become a part of it. Uh the

2055
01:29:36,719 --> 01:29:40,560
blessing in that is that you see the

2056
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:42,719
size of city that we are now to be able

2057
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,400
to uh expand and do development or we

2058
01:29:42,719 --> 01:29:46,960
would be like a lot of other major

2059
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:50,159
cities that were uh landlocked and

2060
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,159
confined by a lot of suburbs around us.

2061
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:53,920
The curse in that is when you do grow.

2062
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:55,440
It's not just fire we're talking about.

2063
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,360
It's parts of the city, right, that

2064
01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:58,719
still don't have sidewalks or there have

2065
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,480
been parts of the city, right, that

2066
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:02,800
didn't even have street lights. That's

2067
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:04,320
not necessarily because we don't want to

2068
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,400
make those investments there. But when

2069
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,920
it's a township and those things aren't

2070
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,760
uh or a village and those things weren't

2071
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,360
required, now they come into the city,

2072
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,560
we got to al also have a growth

2073
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,280
strategy. So this is something that

2074
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:17,120
really goes back to 1950s when we came

2075
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,199
up and adopted that policy. It is both a

2076
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,440
blessing and a curse. But I think it is

2077
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:23,440
a larger conversation about our growth

2078
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:25,520
and that's why this council uh is

2079
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:27,760
advancing uh the Columbus forward

2080
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,440
package as we think about growth more

2081
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,360
comprehensively because we're going to

2082
01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:33,600
have conversations about uh not just

2083
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,360
fire apparatess. as the springboard for

2084
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,639
it. Council me, I think your your

2085
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,600
conversation may be a little bit more

2086
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:41,600
broader on Thursday. Uh, but these are

2087
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,440
fair questions to have. Uh, but I think

2088
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,719
that the the piece of legislation before

2089
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:48,560
us is an administrative one. Um, that is

2090
01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:51,760
really bound by the decision that this

2091
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,600
body made back in December. Um, and so I

2092
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,760
think uh for me I feel comfortable

2093
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,600
moving it forward but not necessarily

2094
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:00,400
comfortable with not continuing the

2095
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:02,400
conversation uh around the concerns that

2096
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:05,360
our firefighters have raised because

2097
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,960
they are in fact uh real concerns. Uh

2098
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,679
are there any final comments or

2099
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:12,560
questions from my colleagues?

2100
01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:15,560
Seeing none, um I move for um passage by

2101
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,560
voice.

2102
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,800
» Please call the role by voice.

2103
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,880
» Bankston.

2104
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,600
» Yes. Barosa Deodia,

2105
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,639
» Yes.

2106
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,520
» Deakau,

2107
01:31:22,639 --> 01:31:24,480
» Yes.

2108
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,600
» Dorren,

2109
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:28,320
» No.

2110
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:30,400
» Green,

2111
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,199
» No.

2112
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,960
» Remy,

2113
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,679
» Yes.

2114
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,880
» Ross,

2115
01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:35,600
» Yes.

2116
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,480
» White,

2117
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,280
» Yes.

2118
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:41,600
» President Harden,

2119
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,840
» I'm actually going to vote no tonight.

2120
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,679
Uh because what I think we need is the

2121
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,800
plan. I think Thursday gets us a lot

2122
01:31:45,679 --> 01:31:52,080
closer to having a plan. Um folks need

2123
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:56,080
to know as we grow that there are there

2124
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:58,560
that um that the city is making the

2125
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,080
appro taking the appropriate steps to

2126
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,719
make sure they are covered by the best

2127
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,400
in service. Uh we are going to have that

2128
01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:08,880
conversation on Thursday. It is an

2129
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:10,800
expectation of mine um that uh we work

2130
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:13,360
with the administration to to get us

2131
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:16,719
there. Um but I'm going to vote no. But

2132
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:18,320
the ordinance does pass.

2133
01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:22,080
Thank you, Council President. Want me to

2134
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:25,280
continue on with the agenda?

2135
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:28,880
» Um, actually, we should probably

2136
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:30,000
uh Is there a motion to recess for

2137
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:34,199
recess?

2138
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,199
» Second. Cler, please call the RO.

2139
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,719
» Can we go back? We need to go back.

2140
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:42,719
» 1508.

2141
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:44,719
That's emergency. Emergency

2142
01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:46,639
is emergency.

2143
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:49,360
» It was an emergency. Okay,

2144
01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:53,199
» We're good then. Okay. Um so this the

2145
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:55,280
motion to uh recess Bosa de Padilla de

2146
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:58,679
Akawa Dors Green Remy Ross Vice

2147
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,679
President Harden

2148
01:33:13,764 --> 01:33:15,784
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» All

2158
01:34:12,715 --> 01:34:14,735
» [music]

2159
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,525
» Right.

2160
01:34:24,505 --> 01:34:26,525
[music]

2161
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,280
Heat. Heat.

2162
01:34:48,740 --> 01:34:50,760
[music]

2163
01:34:59,220 --> 01:35:01,240
» [music]

2164
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,615
» Addicted. [music]

2165
01:35:26,731 --> 01:35:28,751
» [music]

2166
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:38,760
» Heat. Heat.

2167
01:35:44,416 --> 01:35:46,436
[music]

2168
01:35:49,656 --> 01:35:51,676
» [music]

2169
01:37:00,397 --> 01:37:02,417
[music]

2170
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,800
» Heat. Heat.

2171
01:37:06,947 --> 01:37:08,967
[music]

2172
01:37:16,772 --> 01:37:18,792
[music]

2173
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,600
Heat.

2174
01:37:30,527 --> 01:37:32,547
[music]

2175
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,960
Heat.

2176
01:38:13,102 --> 01:38:15,122
» [music]

2177
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,639
» Heat. Heat.

2178
01:38:30,133 --> 01:38:32,153
[music]

2179
01:38:42,578 --> 01:38:44,598
» [music]

2180
01:38:49,783 --> 01:38:53,800
[music]

2181
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:53,800
» Heat. Heat.

2182
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,880
Heat. Heat.

2183
01:39:02,883 --> 01:39:04,903
[music]

2184
01:39:23,188 --> 01:39:25,208
» [music]

2185
01:39:40,219 --> 01:39:42,239
[music]

2186
01:39:48,734 --> 01:39:50,754
[music]

2187
01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:59,269
» Heat. Heat. [music]

2188
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,884
Heat. Heat.

2189
01:40:18,864 --> 01:40:20,884
[music]

2190
01:40:24,759 --> 01:40:26,779
[music]

2191
01:40:34,584 --> 01:40:36,604
» [music]

2192
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,119
[music]

2193
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:44,119
» Buff

2194
01:40:45,719 --> 01:40:49,800
[music]

2195
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,800
Pa

2196
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:57,510
Ba [music]

2197
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:59,530
Ba. Yeah.

2198
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:59,530
[music]

2199
01:41:05,369 --> 01:41:07,389
[music]

2200
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:23,080
[music]

2201
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:23,080
Buffet. Ba b.

2202
01:41:24,364 --> 01:41:26,385
» [music]

2203
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,560
» Batman.

2204
01:41:36,155 --> 01:41:38,175
[music]

2205
01:41:47,290 --> 01:41:50,600
[music] Hey

2206
01:41:54,495 --> 01:41:56,515
» [music]

2207
01:42:07,595 --> 01:42:09,615
[music]

2208
01:42:12,180 --> 01:42:14,200
[music]

2209
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,040
» Let's

2210
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,060
[music]

2211
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,400
get

2212
01:42:33,140 --> 01:42:35,160
[music]

2213
01:42:38,381 --> 01:42:40,401
[music]

2214
01:42:42,719 --> 01:42:46,950
Heat. Heat. N.

2215
01:42:44,930 --> 01:42:46,950
[music]

2216
01:43:01,306 --> 01:43:03,326
[music]

2217
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,520
Heat. Heat.

2218
01:43:06,546 --> 01:43:08,566
[music]

2219
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,960
Hey, hey, hey.

2220
01:43:40,606 --> 01:43:42,626
[music]

2221
01:43:53,679 --> 01:43:56,679
Hey,

2222
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,400
hey, hey.

2223
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:32,520
Heat. Heat.

2224
01:44:38,902 --> 01:44:42,040
[music] Heat. Heat.

2225
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,800
Heat. Heat.

2226
01:45:26,062 --> 01:45:28,082
[music]

2227
01:45:31,957 --> 01:45:33,977
» [music]

2228
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,113
» Heat. Heat. [music]

2229
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:51,440
Heat up

2230
01:45:56,193 --> 01:45:58,213
» [music]

2231
01:46:01,433 --> 01:46:05,320
[music]

2232
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,320
» Here.

2233
01:46:06,673 --> 01:46:08,693
[music]

2234
01:46:29,598 --> 01:46:31,618
» [music]

2235
01:46:34,838 --> 01:46:36,858
[music]

2236
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:59,129
[music]

2237
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,360
» Heat. Heat.

2238
01:47:05,624 --> 01:47:07,644
[music]

2239
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:10,679
Heat.

2240
01:47:10,864 --> 01:47:15,880
[music]

2241
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,880
Heat.

2242
01:47:19,379 --> 01:47:21,399
[music]

2243
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,400
Heat. Heat.

2244
01:47:28,549 --> 01:47:30,569
[music]

2245
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,464
Heat. Heat. [music]

2246
01:47:51,474 --> 01:47:53,494
[music]

2247
01:47:56,714 --> 01:48:01,520
» [music]

2248
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:06,760
» Wow. Wow. Wow.

2249
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:06,760
Wow. Wow. Wow.

2250
01:48:07,849 --> 01:48:09,869
[music]

2251
01:48:39,290 --> 01:48:41,310
» [music]

2252
01:48:44,530 --> 01:48:46,550
[music]

2253
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,880
» Heat up here.

2254
01:48:51,735 --> 01:48:53,755
» [music]

2255
01:48:55,679 --> 01:48:58,679
» Hey,

2256
01:49:04,835 --> 01:49:06,855
[music]

2257
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,400
Heat. Heat.

2258
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:25,850
[music]

2259
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,400
Heat.

2260
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,360
Heat.

2261
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,760
Heat. Heat.

2262
01:49:57,890 --> 01:49:59,910
[music]

2263
01:50:13,611 --> 01:50:15,631
[music]

2264
01:50:29,986 --> 01:50:32,006
» [music]

2265
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,311
» Hey. Hey. Hey.

2266
01:50:50,291 --> 01:50:52,311
» [music]

2267
01:51:00,116 --> 01:51:02,136
[music]

2268
01:51:06,666 --> 01:51:08,686
[music]

2269
01:51:12,561 --> 01:51:14,581
[music]

2270
01:51:20,422 --> 01:51:22,442
[music]

2271
01:51:27,627 --> 01:51:31,239
[music]

2272
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:31,239
» Heat. Heat.

2273
01:51:37,599 --> 01:51:40,599
Hey, hey, hey.

2274
01:51:40,727 --> 01:51:42,747
[music]

2275
01:51:46,622 --> 01:51:48,642
[music]

2276
01:51:53,172 --> 01:51:55,192
[music]

2277
01:51:59,722 --> 01:52:01,742
[music]

2278
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:05,239
Heat. Heat.

2279
01:52:08,237 --> 01:52:10,257
[music]

2280
01:52:30,507 --> 01:52:32,527
» [music]

2281
01:52:46,883 --> 01:52:48,903
[music]

2282
01:52:58,018 --> 01:53:00,038
[music]

2283
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,119
» Heat. Heat.

2284
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,360
Down.

2285
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,063
Down. [music]

2286
01:53:39,938 --> 01:53:41,958
» [music]

2287
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:56,040
» Feeling

2288
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,040
a baby.

2289
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:09,480
Heat.

2290
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,080
Hey, Heat.

2291
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:34,119
Heat. Heat. N.

2292
01:54:48,059 --> 01:54:50,079
» [music]

2293
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:53,320
» Hey,

2294
01:54:54,609 --> 01:54:56,629
[music]

2295
01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:03,080
hey, hey.

2296
01:55:03,779 --> 01:55:05,799
[music]

2297
01:55:37,184 --> 01:55:39,204
» [music]

2298
01:55:44,389 --> 01:55:46,409
[music]

2299
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:51,480
» Heat. Hey. Hey. Hey.

2300
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,400
Heat. Heat. N.

2301
01:56:02,075 --> 01:56:04,095
[music]

2302
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,400
Heat. Heat. N.

2303
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,400
Heat. Heat.

2304
01:56:30,895 --> 01:56:32,915
» [music]

2305
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,120
[music]

2306
01:56:41,199 --> 01:56:44,280
» Heat. Heat.

2307
01:56:47,925 --> 01:56:51,719
[music]

2308
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:51,719
Heat. Heat.

2309
01:56:58,719 --> 01:57:01,719
Heat. Heat. N.

2310
01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:11,719
Heat. Heat. N.

2311
01:57:18,055 --> 01:57:20,075
[music]

2312
01:57:23,951 --> 01:57:25,971
» [music]

2313
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:33,831
» Heat. Heat. [music]

2314
01:58:05,871 --> 01:58:07,891
» [music]

2315
01:58:21,599 --> 01:58:26,231
» Down.

2316
01:58:24,211 --> 01:58:26,231
[music]

2317
01:58:38,621 --> 01:58:40,641
» [music]

2318
01:58:43,862 --> 01:58:45,882
[music]

2319
01:58:54,997 --> 01:58:57,017
[music]

2320
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:07,440
» Super

2321
01:59:05,599 --> 01:59:10,440
Back

2322
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:10,440
jump.

2323
01:59:23,817 --> 01:59:25,837
[music]

2324
01:59:33,642 --> 01:59:35,662
» [music]

2325
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,400
» Hey.

2326
01:59:43,468 --> 01:59:45,488
[music]

2327
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,037
Hey. Hey. [music]

2328
01:59:55,912 --> 01:59:57,932
» [music]

2329
02:00:03,773 --> 02:00:05,793
[music]

2330
02:00:09,012 --> 02:00:11,032
[music]

2331
02:00:22,113 --> 02:00:24,133
[music]

2332
02:00:34,558 --> 02:00:36,578
[music]

2333
02:00:42,418 --> 02:00:44,438
[music]

2334
02:00:48,313 --> 02:00:52,080
[music]

2335
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:52,080
» One,

2336
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:55,199
W

2337
02:00:54,208 --> 02:00:58,199
[music]

2338
02:00:55,199 --> 02:00:58,199
oh

2339
02:01:01,413 --> 02:01:03,433
[music]

2340
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:06,920
oh

2341
02:01:07,308 --> 02:01:09,328
[music]

2342
02:01:13,203 --> 02:01:15,223
[music]

2343
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:17,360
a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh

2344
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:17,679
a oh a oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

2345
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:17,679
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

2346
02:01:17,679 --> 02:01:19,753
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

2347
02:01:17,679 --> 02:01:20,480
oh oh oh oh a

2348
02:01:19,753 --> 02:01:24,679
» [music]

2349
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:24,679
» W oh

2350
02:01:43,334 --> 02:01:45,354
[music]

2351
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,249
hey.

2352
02:01:49,229 --> 02:01:51,249
» [music]

2353
02:01:57,089 --> 02:01:59,109
[music]

2354
02:02:02,984 --> 02:02:05,004
[music]

2355
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:11,554
» W [music]

2356
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,119
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

2357
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:19,360
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh w oh oh [music]

2358
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:22,360
w oh w

2359
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:22,360
W

2360
02:02:23,944 --> 02:02:27,560
[music]

2361
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,560
oh

2362
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:31,859
w

2363
02:02:29,839 --> 02:02:31,859
[music]

2364
02:02:33,679 --> 02:02:37,760
oh w

2365
02:02:36,389 --> 02:02:39,679
[music]

2366
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:42,000
oh

2367
02:02:39,679 --> 02:02:45,400
w oh w a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a

2368
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,400
oh a oh a oh a oh [music] a a

2369
02:02:46,239 --> 02:02:52,164
w oh w

2370
02:02:48,719 --> 02:02:52,164
oh [music]

2371
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:56,750
oh [music]

2372
02:03:03,244 --> 02:03:05,264
[music]

2373
02:03:09,140 --> 02:03:10,800
[music]

2374
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:14,880
a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh

2375
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:16,800
a oh a oh a oh a oh a oh

2376
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:19,020
a a oh oh

2377
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:19,020
w [music]

2378
02:03:26,825 --> 02:03:28,845
» [music]

2379
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,360
» Hey,

2380
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:39,880
hey, hey.

2381
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:46,530
Heat. Heat.

2382
02:03:44,510 --> 02:03:46,530
[music]

2383
02:03:57,610 --> 02:03:59,630
[music]

2384
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,180
Yeah. [music]

2385
02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:17,159
Heat.

2386
02:04:19,225 --> 02:04:21,245
[music]

2387
02:04:26,430 --> 02:04:28,450
» [music]

2388
02:04:35,601 --> 02:04:37,621
[music]

2389
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,920
» What?

2390
02:04:53,119 --> 02:04:56,360
Get down.

2391
02:05:04,421 --> 02:05:06,441
[music]

2392
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:16,921
Heat up

2393
02:05:14,901 --> 02:05:16,921
» [music]

2394
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:43,121
» Here.

2395
02:05:41,101 --> 02:05:43,121
» [music]

2396
02:05:53,547 --> 02:05:55,567
[music]

2397
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:03,239
» Hey,

2398
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:09,320
hey, hey.

2399
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,920
Oh,

2400
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,000
hey.

2401
02:06:34,812 --> 02:06:36,832
» [music]

2402
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,079
» Heat. Heat.

2403
02:06:55,772 --> 02:06:57,792
[music]

2404
02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:18,679
Heat. Heat.

2405
02:07:34,639 --> 02:07:37,719
Heat. Heat.

2406
02:07:41,623 --> 02:07:43,643
[music]

2407
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,840
Heat. Heat.

2408
02:08:38,609 --> 02:08:40,629
» [music]

2409
02:08:47,124 --> 02:08:49,144
[music]

2410
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:57,004
» Heat up here.

2411
02:08:54,984 --> 02:08:57,004
[music]

2412
02:09:02,239 --> 02:09:05,239
Heat.

2413
02:09:05,464 --> 02:09:07,484
[music]

2414
02:09:16,599 --> 02:09:21,400
[music]

2415
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,400
Heat.

2416
02:09:32,974 --> 02:09:34,994
» [music]

2417
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,234
» B. [music]

2418
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:52,119
Ba da [music] ba.

2419
02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,300
» [music]

2420
02:09:59,829 --> 02:10:01,849
[music]

2421
02:10:14,719 --> 02:10:19,880
» Buff baby. Ba [music] b.

2422
02:10:22,755 --> 02:10:26,760
» [music]

2423
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,760
» Ba baby.

2424
02:10:31,925 --> 02:10:33,945
[music]

2425
02:10:45,025 --> 02:10:47,045
[music]

2426
02:10:56,079 --> 02:11:00,800
Oh yeah.

2427
02:10:58,780 --> 02:11:00,800
[music]

2428
02:11:04,020 --> 02:11:09,639
[music] All right.

2429
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:09,639
The swing.

2430
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:19,239
All right.

2431
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:19,239
Oh, [music] yeah. Yeah.

2432
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:23,725
in the book. [music]

2433
02:11:29,565 --> 02:11:31,585
[music]

2434
02:11:34,159 --> 02:11:36,840
ain't got any [music]

2435
02:11:41,356 --> 02:11:43,376
[music]

2436
02:11:46,595 --> 02:11:51,000
[music]

2437
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:51,000
swing.

2438
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:16,280
Oh yeah. Yeah. [music]

2439
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:16,280
Oh yeah. Yeah.

2440
02:12:18,691 --> 02:12:20,711
[music]

2441
02:12:24,586 --> 02:12:28,199
» [music]

2442
02:12:25,199 --> 02:12:28,199
» Look,

2443
02:12:36,719 --> 02:12:39,051
in the [music]

2444
02:12:40,639 --> 02:12:44,040
Get in the

2445
02:12:45,546 --> 02:12:47,566
[music]

2446
02:12:51,441 --> 02:12:55,400
[music]

2447
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,400
right.

2448
02:12:56,027 --> 02:12:58,047
[music]

2449
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:04,840
Yeah.

2450
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:15,732
Hey,

2451
02:13:13,712 --> 02:13:15,732
[music]

2452
02:13:18,952 --> 02:13:20,972
[music]

2453
02:13:24,639 --> 02:13:27,639
give me

2454
02:13:28,777 --> 02:13:30,797
[music]

2455
02:13:37,292 --> 02:13:40,920
» [music]

2456
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,920
» Heat.

2457
02:13:43,842 --> 02:13:45,862
[music]

2458
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:51,000
Heat.

2459
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:56,997
Heat. [music]

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I know you now.

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Order. Clerk, please call the role.

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02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:44,160
Banks Rosa de Padilla de Aar Dorren

2522
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:45,520
Green Remy Ross Weiss President Harden.

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02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:46,640
» Can I get a motion to the reading of the

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journal?

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02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:49,760
» Clark, please call the role.

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02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:51,760
» Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar

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02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:52,240
Dorren Green Remy Ross Swiss President

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02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:53,600
Harden.

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02:22:52,240 --> 02:22:54,960
» Are there any additions or corrections

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02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:56,319
to the journal? Hearing none, the

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02:22:54,960 --> 02:22:58,479
journal is approved. We'll now go to the

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02:22:56,319 --> 02:22:59,680
zoning committee. Chair Dorren uh chairs

2533
02:22:58,479 --> 02:23:00,640
this committee and all members ceremony.

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02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:02,080
Council member, the floor is yours.

2535
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:03,359
Thank you, Council President. Before we

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02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:04,880
begin tonight's agenda, first a little

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02:23:03,359 --> 02:23:06,240
bit of housekeeping housekeeping. Will

2538
02:23:04,880 --> 02:23:07,359
the clerk please read the numbers of

2539
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:09,439
legislation in this committee that

2540
02:23:07,359 --> 02:23:11,040
require waiver of second reading?

2541
02:23:09,439 --> 02:23:16,720
Ordinances

2542
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:18,640
377, 824, 1284, 1716,

2543
02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:22,319
1768,

2544
02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:26,240
1772, and 1805-2026.

2545
02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:31,280
Variances 378, 1764,

2546
02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:32,880
1769, 1800, and 1822-2026.

2547
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:34,319
» Thank you. I now move to wave second

2548
02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:36,240
reading on those items.

2549
02:23:34,319 --> 02:23:38,880
» Second call.

2550
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:41,520
» Banks timber roa deia de a dors green

2551
02:23:38,880 --> 02:23:43,280
room reie ros vice president Harden.

2552
02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:45,120
» Thank you. Uh as always I'll briefly

2553
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:47,600
explain our rules uh to speaking before

2554
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:48,960
council on reszonings and variances. We

2555
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:50,479
only hear a staff presentation for

2556
02:23:48,960 --> 02:23:52,479
ordinance have a disapproval from a

2557
02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:53,840
recommending body or if we have a public

2558
02:23:52,479 --> 02:23:56,240
speaker time sign to speak against an

2559
02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:57,600
ordinance. We permit three speakers on

2560
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:59,200
each side of an ordinance, three

2561
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:00,319
proponents, three opponents. We ask

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02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,520
those speakers limit the remarks to

2563
02:24:00,319 --> 02:24:03,439
three minutes per the standard rules of

2564
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:05,200
city council. All speakers on the

2565
02:24:03,439 --> 02:24:06,399
council variance, including city staff,

2566
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:07,760
area commissioners, applicants, and

2567
02:24:06,399 --> 02:24:09,439
members of the public will be sworn in

2568
02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,640
before they give testimony. a

2569
02:24:09,439 --> 02:24:11,920
representative of an area commission are

2570
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:13,359
always able to speak on ordinance. You

2571
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,120
do not need to fill out a speaker slip,

2572
02:24:13,359 --> 02:24:16,000
but we do ask you alert city staff for

2573
02:24:15,120 --> 02:24:18,000
your attention to speak at this

2574
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:19,520
committee hearing. Uh I'm aware that we

2575
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:21,680
do have two uh different area

2576
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:24,240
commissions here tonight to speak on two

2577
02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:26,319
different pieces of legislation. Um

2578
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:28,479
representative civic association do need

2579
02:24:26,319 --> 02:24:30,080
the fellow speaker club because civic

2580
02:24:28,479 --> 02:24:31,920
associations are not formally recognized

2581
02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:34,160
under Columbus City Code. Uh this

2582
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:35,760
evening we have six public speakers uh

2583
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:37,840
signed up to speak on legislation in

2584
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:39,840
this committee. On the advice of the

2585
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,520
city attorneys city attorney's office, I

2586
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:43,120
will now swear in city staff. Please

2587
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:44,800
stand and raise your right hand be sworn

2588
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:45,760
in. Do you swear affirm the test you're

2589
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:47,280
about to give shall be the truth,

2590
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:48,479
nothing but the truth, as you shall

2591
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,080
answer underpaintings of the penalty of

2592
02:24:48,479 --> 02:24:50,560
perjury. If so, please say I do.

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» I do.

2594
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:53,840
» Thank you. Please let the record reflect

2595
02:24:52,399 --> 02:24:55,120
that Tim Dietrich and Alyssa Saltzman

2596
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:56,960
for the Department of Building Zoning

2597
02:24:55,120 --> 02:24:58,080
Services, Lewis Taba from the Department

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02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:59,600
of Developments, Division of Planning,

2599
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,800
and Daniel Bleshman for the Division of

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02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:02,560
Traffic Management and the Department of

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02:25:00,800 --> 02:25:06,479
Public Safety have been sworn in. First,

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02:25:02,560 --> 02:25:09,600
we have ordinance number 0377-2026one

2603
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:11,040
824 Kenya Road being 7.7 plus acres

2604
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:12,960
located on the north side of Kenya Road,

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02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:15,520
900 plus feet west of Tanganger River

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02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:17,439
Road from our rural district to AR3

2607
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:18,880
residential district. Uh this site was

2608
02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:20,399
recently annexed in the city of Columbus

2609
02:25:18,880 --> 02:25:22,000
and consists of two parcels developed

2610
02:25:20,399 --> 02:25:24,319
with a variety of uses including office

2611
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:25,920
warehouse multi-unit residential

2612
02:25:24,319 --> 02:25:27,680
consistent with Columbus's growth

2613
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:29,359
strategy. Uh the applicant is proposing

2614
02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:32,240
a multi-unit residential development

2615
02:25:29,359 --> 02:25:33,760
containing up to 435 apartment uh units.

2616
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:35,840
There is no area commission or civic

2617
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:37,439
association over this area but proposals

2618
02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:38,800
have approvals from city staff and the

2619
02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:40,479
development commission. Any questions

2620
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:42,640
comments my colleagues? Seeing none move

2621
02:25:40,479 --> 02:25:45,200
for passage.

2622
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:46,800
Banks timber roa deodia de a dors green

2623
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:47,359
rooms vice president Harden

2624
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:49,120
» Pass.

2625
02:25:47,359 --> 02:25:50,800
» Thank you. Next we have ordinance

2626
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:52,800
0824-226

2627
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:56,240
reszone 80032

2628
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:57,359
uh Kennedy Road being 15.15 plus acres

2629
02:25:56,240 --> 02:26:00,080
located in the north side of Kennedy

2630
02:25:57,359 --> 02:26:02,720
Road 550 plus feet east of Chaser Street

2631
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:05,120
from Ral District to L1 limited

2632
02:26:02,720 --> 02:26:06,960
apartment residential district. uh site

2633
02:26:05,120 --> 02:26:09,040
was this site was recently annexed in

2634
02:26:06,960 --> 02:26:10,399
the city of Columbus back in May and

2635
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:12,000
cons consists of three parcels each

2636
02:26:10,399 --> 02:26:13,760
developed with a uh currently with a

2637
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:15,280
single unit dwelling and the requested

2638
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:16,800
reszoning will allow a multi-unit

2639
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:19,680
residential development with a maximum

2640
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:21,040
of 256 dwelling units. Proposals

2641
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:22,800
approved from city staff the development

2642
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:25,280
commission but a disapproval from the

2643
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,880
far east area commission. Uh due to the

2644
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:29,120
area commission disapproval we'll now

2645
02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:31,680
hear from city staff. Um starting with

2646
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:32,720
Mr. De Tim Dietrich and Alyssa Saltzman

2647
02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:36,920
from Department of Building Zoning

2648
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:36,920
Services. Floor is yours.

2649
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:43,439
» Good evening, Chair Dorans, President

2650
02:26:40,479 --> 02:26:45,520
Harden, members of council. The 15.5

2651
02:26:43,439 --> 02:26:47,040
acre site consists of three parcels,

2652
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:49,359
each developed with a single unit

2653
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:51,520
dwelling in the R rural district as a

2654
02:26:49,359 --> 02:26:54,560
result of annexation into the city of

2655
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:56,319
Columbus. The applicant requests the LR1

2656
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:58,640
limited apartment residential district

2657
02:26:56,319 --> 02:27:01,920
to allow a multi-unit residential de

2658
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:04,479
development with up to 256 dwelling

2659
02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:06,640
units as shown in the included site plan

2660
02:27:04,479 --> 02:27:08,640
and building elevations. North of the

2661
02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:10,960
site are singleunit dwellings in the

2662
02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:13,439
suburban periphery residential district

2663
02:27:10,960 --> 02:27:15,359
of Jefferson Township. East of the site

2664
02:27:13,439 --> 02:27:17,120
are singleunit dwellings in the

2665
02:27:15,359 --> 02:27:19,439
countryside residential district of

2666
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:21,920
Jefferson Township. South of the site

2667
02:27:19,439 --> 02:27:25,280
are singleunit dwellings in the R2

2668
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:27,200
limited uh sorry residential district.

2669
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:29,920
Uh west of the site are single unit

2670
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:32,880
dwellings in the LR2 limited residential

2671
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:35,680
district. The limitation text includes a

2672
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:37,439
maximum dwelling unit count of 256

2673
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:39,520
dwelling units and incorporates

2674
02:27:37,439 --> 02:27:41,040
supplemental development standards

2675
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:43,439
addressing traffic improvements,

2676
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:45,600
pedestrian connectivity, landscaping,

2677
02:27:43,439 --> 02:27:47,200
fencing and tree preservation.

2678
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,640
Additionally, the text includes

2679
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:50,880
commitments to develop the site in

2680
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:53,280
accordance with the submitted site plan

2681
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:56,080
and building elevations. Although the

2682
02:27:53,280 --> 02:27:58,319
proposal exceeds the density of the far

2683
02:27:56,080 --> 02:28:01,439
east land use plans, recommendation of

2684
02:27:58,319 --> 02:28:03,280
lowdensity residential plan guidelines

2685
02:28:01,439 --> 02:28:04,880
state that projects proposed at a

2686
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:07,600
density higher than the recommended land

2687
02:28:04,880 --> 02:28:09,840
use may be supported if they include

2688
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:12,000
both a high level of site and building

2689
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:14,880
design and when significant natural

2690
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:16,319
resource preservation occurs. The

2691
02:28:14,880 --> 02:28:18,000
included site plan and building

2692
02:28:16,319 --> 02:28:20,399
elevations are consistent with these

2693
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,840
plan recommendations. Additionally, the

2694
02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:24,000
request is aligned with the city's

2695
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:25,840
objective to provide more housing in all

2696
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:27,200
neighborhoods. Therefore, city

2697
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:28,319
department's recommendation is for

2698
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:31,200
approval.

2699
02:28:28,319 --> 02:28:33,840
» Thank you. Uh two questions. So, one, uh

2700
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:36,000
what is the height district currently uh

2701
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:38,080
on the property and with this reszoning

2702
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:41,280
make any changes to that?

2703
02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:45,280
Uh the current height district is 35 ft

2704
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:46,479
and uh it will I believe stay as 35 ft.

2705
02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:49,040
» Thank you. And what are some of the

2706
02:28:46,479 --> 02:28:50,399
examples you mentioned um be the

2707
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:52,960
department being in support of the

2708
02:28:50,399 --> 02:28:54,240
application due to the increased um sort

2709
02:28:52,960 --> 02:28:55,439
of site improvements particularly with

2710
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:57,120
some of the environmental concerns. this

2711
02:28:55,439 --> 02:28:59,520
is something we've heard some things

2712
02:28:57,120 --> 02:29:01,840
from um some residents within that area

2713
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:05,359
about the environmental impact of this

2714
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:07,040
and could you um walk us through you

2715
02:29:05,359 --> 02:29:08,720
know some of those things that again

2716
02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:10,160
were included by this applicant that go

2717
02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:12,399
above and beyond what would what would

2718
02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:16,880
be sort of standard.

2719
02:29:12,399 --> 02:29:19,439
So um in the site plan they included a a

2720
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:21,200
large area in the northwest corner of

2721
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:25,520
specifically trees that are going to be

2722
02:29:21,200 --> 02:29:31,479
preserved and then uh they increased the

2723
02:29:25,520 --> 02:29:31,479
uh required perimeter yard or they uh

2724
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:36,240
they went with the exact perimeter yard.

2725
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:39,760
So instead of reducing that around the

2726
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:43,520
edges, they um exceeded not exceeded

2727
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:46,479
they met what is required. Um and they

2728
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:48,240
even upon request

2729
02:29:46,479 --> 02:29:50,479
moved one of the buildings from three

2730
02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:52,560
stories to two stories.

2731
02:29:50,479 --> 02:29:53,520
» Thank you. Uh any questions my

2732
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:55,200
colleagues of the department at this

2733
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:56,880
time?

2734
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:58,560
Seeing none, we will move over to Lewis

2735
02:29:56,880 --> 02:29:59,680
Taba from the Division of Planning.

2736
02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:01,840
Thank you for being with us here

2737
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:02,479
tonight. Lewis and Pitch Hitten.

2738
02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:02,960
» Sure.

2739
02:30:02,479 --> 02:30:04,080
» Yours.

2740
02:30:02,960 --> 02:30:05,760
» Thank you for having me. Thank you,

2741
02:30:04,080 --> 02:30:08,160
Chair Dorren, President Harden, members

2742
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:10,560
of council. So, planning is supportive

2743
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:12,640
of the resoning at the site. Though the

2744
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:14,479
proposal exceeds the far east land use

2745
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:17,680
plans recommendation of lowdensity

2746
02:30:14,479 --> 02:30:19,600
residential at the site, staff notes the

2747
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:21,439
Columbus citywide planning policies

2748
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:23,600
state that projects proposed at a

2749
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:26,399
density higher than the recommended land

2750
02:30:23,600 --> 02:30:28,000
use may be supported if they include a

2751
02:30:26,399 --> 02:30:30,960
high level of site and architecture

2752
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:33,760
design. Furthermore, C2P2 also states

2753
02:30:30,960 --> 02:30:35,439
that densities higher uh than the

2754
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:37,840
recommended land use may be appropriate

2755
02:30:35,439 --> 02:30:40,720
in instances when site design mitigates

2756
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:42,240
impacts on adjacent residential uses and

2757
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:44,800
significant natural resource

2758
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:46,479
preservation is provided. Planning also

2759
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:48,160
suggests the applicant consult with the

2760
02:30:46,479 --> 02:30:50,399
wreck and parks department to explore

2761
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:52,800
potential opportunities for connectivity

2762
02:30:50,399 --> 02:30:54,880
between the site and adjacent parkland

2763
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:57,359
to the north and west of the site and

2764
02:30:54,880 --> 02:30:59,359
that is reflected on their site plan.

2765
02:30:57,359 --> 02:31:02,080
» Thank you, Mr. Da. Any questions for my

2766
02:30:59,359 --> 02:31:03,359
colleagues? Lewis, uh sort similar

2767
02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:05,359
question I asked Miss Saltzman just

2768
02:31:03,359 --> 02:31:08,160
about the sort of enhancements from a

2769
02:31:05,359 --> 02:31:09,920
site plan that um are present here that

2770
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:10,960
uh from a planning standpoint that you

2771
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:13,120
would say whether or not those are

2772
02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:16,160
architectural or or otherwise that sort

2773
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:18,479
of go above where um you know the sort

2774
02:31:16,160 --> 02:31:20,399
of standard project would come in at.

2775
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:22,960
» Yeah. I mean so the the proposal shows

2776
02:31:20,399 --> 02:31:24,720
reflects high quality design standards.

2777
02:31:22,960 --> 02:31:26,720
It has a mixing of materials. It has

2778
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:29,840
building articulation

2779
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:32,080
um and fenestration. It has a variety.

2780
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:34,560
Uh it does have the clubhouse as well.

2781
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:36,479
And as far as the site design goes, uh

2782
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:38,800
Alyssa indicated that the first floor,

2783
02:31:36,479 --> 02:31:41,760
the first building, building one, uh it

2784
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:42,880
will be below the 35 ft height limit

2785
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:45,120
that is allowed in the surrounding

2786
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:46,960
areas. It will be two stories. Uh and

2787
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:49,439
then the tree preservation in the

2788
02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:50,560
northwest corner uh of the property.

2789
02:31:49,439 --> 02:31:52,160
That was something that they worked with

2790
02:31:50,560 --> 02:31:54,000
the planning division on preserving that

2791
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:56,720
right there, which provides a nice

2792
02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:58,800
buffer between the residential uh to the

2793
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:01,680
north and to the west and to this

2794
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:03,600
proposed uh multi-unit development. And

2795
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:04,720
as far as the connectivity, uh it

2796
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:06,160
indicates that they'll work with Wreck

2797
02:32:04,720 --> 02:32:07,760
and Parks Department, but we do like to

2798
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:08,720
see that kind of connectivity to open

2799
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:11,200
spaces.

2800
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:13,280
» Thank you. Uh any questions, my

2801
02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:15,120
colleagues?

2802
02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:17,680
» Thank you. Uh we'll move on to Mr.

2803
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:19,040
Bushman from traffic management.

2804
02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:21,680
» Thank you, Chair Dorren. President

2805
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:23,600
Harden, members of council, in regards

2806
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:25,359
to our review of this application,

2807
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:27,520
please be advised that this site was

2808
02:32:25,359 --> 02:32:30,319
required to complete a traffic impact

2809
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:33,680
study that evaluated traffic operations

2810
02:32:30,319 --> 02:32:36,160
at the site access point to Kennedy Road

2811
02:32:33,680 --> 02:32:38,720
and the intersection of Wagner Road and

2812
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:40,800
Kennedy Road. Resulting from this

2813
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:43,040
traffic impact study, the developer will

2814
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:45,200
be required to perform roadway widening

2815
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:47,600
of Kennedy Road to provide an eastbound

2816
02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:51,120
left turn lane and a westbound left turn

2817
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:53,600
lane at the side access point to Kennedy

2818
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:56,160
Road, which is planned to be placed to

2819
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:58,560
form a fourth north leg of the

2820
02:32:56,160 --> 02:33:00,560
intersection of Kennedy Road and Cedar

2821
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:02,560
Run Drive.

2822
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:03,840
Additionally, this developer will be

2823
02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:06,240
required to construct additional

2824
02:33:03,840 --> 02:33:08,479
sidewalk beyond the frontage of the site

2825
02:33:06,240 --> 02:33:10,560
to connect to the existing sidewalk

2826
02:33:08,479 --> 02:33:12,960
network that is present west of the

2827
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:15,040
site. These commitments are incorporated

2828
02:33:12,960 --> 02:33:17,280
into the limitation text associated with

2829
02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:18,960
this proposed ordinance. With these

2830
02:33:17,280 --> 02:33:20,880
comments noted, the Department of Public

2831
02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:22,560
Service has no further concerns

2832
02:33:20,880 --> 02:33:24,720
regarding this application and I'd be

2833
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:26,800
happy to answer any questions.

2834
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:29,120
» Thank you, Mr. Bushman. Any question by

2835
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:31,200
council colleagues for traffic?

2836
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,479
Seeing none, um, normally we'd hear from

2837
02:33:31,200 --> 02:33:34,399
deputy director for housing strategies,

2838
02:33:32,479 --> 02:33:36,319
Aaron Proer, but unfortunately she's

2839
02:33:34,399 --> 02:33:40,520
unable to be here with us. So, uh, Mr.

2840
02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:40,520
Taba is going to read her report.

2841
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:46,960
Thank you. So, the proposed resoning of

2842
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:48,960
8032 Kennedy Road supports the Columbus

2843
02:33:46,960 --> 02:33:51,760
Housing Strategy by expanding housing

2844
02:33:48,960 --> 02:33:53,920
supply and options in an opportunity

2845
02:33:51,760 --> 02:33:56,240
area with high access to some of the

2846
02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:57,840
region's largest job centers. The

2847
02:33:56,240 --> 02:34:00,000
current housing infrastructure is not

2848
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:03,359
meeting the demand. Rents have increased

2849
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:06,160
29% and home prices have risen 54% just

2850
02:34:03,359 --> 02:34:07,760
since 2020. Cost burden households,

2851
02:34:06,160 --> 02:34:10,560
those paying more than 30% of their

2852
02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:14,479
income uh on their housing expenses rose

2853
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:16,160
from 25% to 33% since 2020. This

2854
02:34:14,479 --> 02:34:18,399
indicates an increasing demand for new

2855
02:34:16,160 --> 02:34:21,120
housing and in particular more rental

2856
02:34:18,399 --> 02:34:24,080
options. The current home ownership rate

2857
02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:27,439
in the census tract is 91%. which is

2858
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:30,240
compared to 45% in the city and only

2859
02:34:27,439 --> 02:34:34,080
7.3% of the housing units are attached

2860
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:36,800
units compared to 66% in the city as a

2861
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:38,960
whole. This indicates a lack of housing

2862
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:41,120
diversity in the area which limits

2863
02:34:38,960 --> 02:34:43,680
options for new families and limits the

2864
02:34:41,120 --> 02:34:46,240
mobility and aging in place options for

2865
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:48,160
existing residents. the proposed housing

2866
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:50,160
in an area of the city with access to

2867
02:34:48,160 --> 02:34:52,800
tens of thousands of existing and

2868
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:55,439
planned jobs. Within 10 miles, there are

2869
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:58,479
33,000 jobs at John Glenn International

2870
02:34:55,439 --> 02:35:01,920
Airport and the 3,000 new jobs planned

2871
02:34:58,479 --> 02:35:04,160
at Intel. There are also 86,000 jobs

2872
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:06,000
along the East Broad corridor.

2873
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:07,920
Connecting housing with jobs not only

2874
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:10,240
supports these workers with reasonable

2875
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:12,160
commutes and transportation costs, but

2876
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:14,240
also lessens the burdens on the regional

2877
02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:15,840
transportation network by shortening

2878
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:17,760
commutes and lowering the number of

2879
02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:19,520
vehicle trip miles traveled on our

2880
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:21,280
roadways.

2881
02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:23,280
In an area with increased home prices

2882
02:35:21,280 --> 02:35:25,359
and rents, already cost burden

2883
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:27,520
households and access to significant job

2884
02:35:25,359 --> 02:35:29,840
centers is it is critical to add the

2885
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:32,399
needed new housing to manage the impacts

2886
02:35:29,840 --> 02:35:34,640
of housing scarcity on existing families

2887
02:35:32,399 --> 02:35:37,520
as well as those needing housing in the

2888
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:40,479
area. Thank you.

2889
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:42,960
» Thank you, Mr. Ta. Any questions for Mr.

2890
02:35:40,479 --> 02:35:44,640
TA on that housing report?

2891
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:46,240
Seeing none, I will invite the

2892
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:47,920
applicants representative, Miss Bethany

2893
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:49,920
Seedorf, uh to the podium for a

2894
02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:53,560
presentation.

2895
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:53,560
Welcome back to council.

2896
02:35:56,800 --> 02:35:59,840
» Hello. Good evening, Council President

2897
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:01,120
Harden, uh, President Prom Dors, and

2898
02:35:59,840 --> 02:36:02,319
members of council. Thank you for the

2899
02:36:01,120 --> 02:36:03,680
opportunity to speak with you this

2900
02:36:02,319 --> 02:36:05,760
evening. I'm Beth Sedorf. I'm an

2901
02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:07,840
attorney at Bores. We represent Metro

2902
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:10,399
Development of the property on Kennedy

2903
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:11,760
Road to L1. So, I'll give you a brief

2904
02:36:10,399 --> 02:36:13,280
procedural background on the property

2905
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:15,439
and then add some additional information

2906
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:16,800
on the commitments Metro's making um in

2907
02:36:15,439 --> 02:36:18,240
response to feedback we received from

2908
02:36:16,800 --> 02:36:20,080
the Far East Area Commission in the

2909
02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:21,840
community. Um so, we met with the Far

2910
02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:24,160
East Area Commission for well over five

2911
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:26,479
hours between um two meetings on January

2912
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:28,160
6th and February 3rd and Joe Thomas from

2913
02:36:26,479 --> 02:36:29,760
Metro Development um separately met with

2914
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:32,720
a group of neighbors from Wagner Chase

2915
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:34,000
subdivision in early January. And so, we

2916
02:36:32,720 --> 02:36:35,439
appreciated the neighbors thoughtful

2917
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:37,359
feedback and we've incorporated many of

2918
02:36:35,439 --> 02:36:39,600
the pieces of their feedback into our

2919
02:36:37,359 --> 02:36:41,439
site plan. Um the biggest concerns tra

2920
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:43,200
uh neighbors uh shared were traffic

2921
02:36:41,439 --> 02:36:44,800
concerns along Kennedy which we've

2922
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:47,840
addressed by adding east and westbound

2923
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:49,760
turn lanes. Um we're also the lack of

2924
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:51,600
sidewalks on the property. We're adding

2925
02:36:49,760 --> 02:36:53,840
a sidewalk that cha connects down to

2926
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:55,680
Chaser Street and then also having

2927
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:58,319
school buses back up on Kennedy Road.

2928
02:36:55,680 --> 02:37:00,240
We're have engineered the site to allow

2929
02:36:58,319 --> 02:37:02,080
um school buses to enter the site to

2930
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:04,240
pick up and drop off students to avoid

2931
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:06,160
backup on Kennedy Road. Um,

2932
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:09,200
additionally, we've made a lot of uh

2933
02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:11,040
changes to the property to um address

2934
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:13,200
concerns about privacy and then

2935
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:16,000
mitigating the impact on neighbors. Um,

2936
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:17,920
originally we proposed 312 units at this

2937
02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:20,000
site and through the process, Metro's

2938
02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:22,240
dropped the unit count down to 256

2939
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:24,160
units, which is a reduction of 56 units.

2940
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:26,319
That works out to approximately 16.9

2941
02:37:24,160 --> 02:37:28,000
units per acre. Um, we've committed

2942
02:37:26,319 --> 02:37:29,840
again to the large tree preservation

2943
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:31,359
area that acts as a natural buffer to

2944
02:37:29,840 --> 02:37:33,359
the Wagner Chase subdivision to the

2945
02:37:31,359 --> 02:37:35,280
north and west. Committed to building

2946
02:37:33,359 --> 02:37:37,520
one, which fronts Kennedy Road being two

2947
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:39,359
stories instead of three. Committed to a

2948
02:37:37,520 --> 02:37:41,280
six- foot tall privacy fence along most

2949
02:37:39,359 --> 02:37:43,439
of the western and all of the northern

2950
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:45,200
property line. Committed to 8 foot tall

2951
02:37:43,439 --> 02:37:46,720
evergreen trees along the western

2952
02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:49,120
property line south of the tree

2953
02:37:46,720 --> 02:37:51,520
preservation area. Committed to 8ft tall

2954
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:53,760
pries on the northern property line east

2955
02:37:51,520 --> 02:37:55,680
of the tree preservation area. Moved

2956
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:57,359
building eight interior to the property

2957
02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:59,920
to provide more privacy to the neighbor

2958
02:37:57,359 --> 02:38:01,840
to the east. and also added 8 foot tall

2959
02:37:59,920 --> 02:38:03,359
spruce trees along that eastern property

2960
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:05,920
line um to the neighbor to the east

2961
02:38:03,359 --> 02:38:08,160
privacy. And ultimately um the area

2962
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:10,319
commission um voted not to recommend

2963
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:12,319
approval um because they wanted a lower

2964
02:38:10,319 --> 02:38:15,040
density for this project um than what

2965
02:38:12,319 --> 02:38:16,319
Metro could provide and also um wanted

2966
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:18,319
two-story buildings instead of

2967
02:38:16,319 --> 02:38:20,160
three-story buildings. Uh we did receive

2968
02:38:18,319 --> 02:38:21,600
support from city staff and a unanimous

2969
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:23,920
vote for approval from development

2970
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:25,280
commission and we share uh council's

2971
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:27,200
commitment to bringing more housing to

2972
02:38:25,280 --> 02:38:28,640
the city and all income levels um to

2973
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:30,000
keep Columbus an affordable place to

2974
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:31,760
live for current and future residents.

2975
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:33,760
And with that, we ask for your um

2976
02:38:31,760 --> 02:38:35,040
approval of this resoning to LA1. And

2977
02:38:33,760 --> 02:38:36,319
I'm happy to answer any questions you

2978
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:37,840
all have.

2979
02:38:36,319 --> 02:38:39,840
» Thank you. Uh any questions for the

2980
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:41,600
applicants represented at this time?

2981
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:43,120
» Can you tell me what the original

2982
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:44,319
request for the area commission from a

2983
02:38:43,120 --> 02:38:45,439
density perspective was?

2984
02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:46,880
» I'm sorry. Can you say that one more

2985
02:38:45,439 --> 02:38:48,240
time? What was the request from the area

2986
02:38:46,880 --> 02:38:49,840
commission regarding density?

2987
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:52,240
» Yeah, so I think that they were

2988
02:38:49,840 --> 02:38:55,600
supportive of a density between 12 and

2989
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:59,280
16 units an acre and we're at 16.9 and

2990
02:38:55,600 --> 02:39:02,760
we came down from I think it was 20 uh

2991
02:38:59,280 --> 02:39:02,760
originally 20.6

2992
02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:07,280
other questions of the applicants

2993
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:08,960
representative

2994
02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:11,439
miss I'll invote you back up after

2995
02:39:08,960 --> 02:39:13,040
public testimony. Thank you. Um, as I

2996
02:39:11,439 --> 02:39:14,960
mentioned, we have a number of folks uh

2997
02:39:13,040 --> 02:39:16,800
speak up against this ordinance here

2998
02:39:14,960 --> 02:39:20,600
this evening. The first is uh Far East

2999
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:20,600
area commissioner Jeffrey Chamberlain.

3000
02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:25,000
Commissioner, welcome back to council

3001
02:39:43,760 --> 02:39:51,080
Good evening, Council President Harden

3002
02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:51,080
and Prom Dorren.

3003
02:39:53,760 --> 02:40:00,319
I actually wanted the residents to speak

3004
02:39:56,560 --> 02:40:05,439
first. Um,

3005
02:40:00,319 --> 02:40:07,760
I want to say that it's sad that

3006
02:40:05,439 --> 02:40:10,240
we feel that you all have an absolute

3007
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:12,960
mindset and decision that you're locked

3008
02:40:10,240 --> 02:40:15,680
in at.

3009
02:40:12,960 --> 02:40:18,000
And if you truly examine that, and

3010
02:40:15,680 --> 02:40:20,080
despite what will probably be a

3011
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:22,640
half-hearted attempt to convince

3012
02:40:20,080 --> 02:40:25,200
otherwise, you know there is nothing I

3013
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:27,520
can say tonight and no relevance of

3014
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:30,479
being here anymore.

3015
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:33,840
I only came here to show the community

3016
02:40:30,479 --> 02:40:37,920
that we supported them in the few small

3017
02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:39,680
changes we wanted to make.

3018
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:40,560
» That's it.

3019
02:40:39,680 --> 02:40:42,319
Thank you,

3020
02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:45,439
» Miss Chamberlain. What What were those

3021
02:40:42,319 --> 02:40:51,600
small changes you're alluding to?

3022
02:40:45,439 --> 02:40:56,479
» We asked the density be dropped to 16 or

3023
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:59,040
under 16. We asked for a

3024
02:40:56,479 --> 02:41:01,280
bus to be able to

3025
02:40:59,040 --> 02:41:05,359
go inside of the development to not hold

3026
02:41:01,280 --> 02:41:08,160
up traffic um for both traffic sake and

3027
02:41:05,359 --> 02:41:11,760
safety sake of kids uh getting onto the

3028
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:15,280
school bus. And they do show on the

3029
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:19,920
plans a school bus can go in and out of

3030
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:23,200
there. We don't have any um

3031
02:41:19,920 --> 02:41:27,840
confirmation that that actually will

3032
02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:30,479
happen. Um, and the last one was

3033
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:32,720
the frontmost building on the site that

3034
02:41:30,479 --> 02:41:35,840
faces the road. We commonly asked for

3035
02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:41,359
this drop from a threetory to a twotory.

3036
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:42,960
So, it's not such a big um expanse of a

3037
02:41:41,359 --> 02:41:44,800
building heightwise that you're going to

3038
02:41:42,960 --> 02:41:45,200
see on the road.

3039
02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:47,439
» Okay,

3040
02:41:45,200 --> 02:41:49,120
» That's it.

3041
02:41:47,439 --> 02:41:53,399
» Uh, any questions for council members

3042
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:53,399
for folks from the Air Commission?

3043
02:41:54,640 --> 02:41:56,000
Um,

3044
02:41:55,439 --> 02:41:58,080
» Council.

3045
02:41:56,000 --> 02:42:00,640
» Well, chair, we're going to have a I

3046
02:41:58,080 --> 02:42:01,040
think some of those conditions were met.

3047
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:02,960
» Am I?

3048
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:04,240
» Well, I think Commissioner Chamberlain

3049
02:42:02,960 --> 02:42:05,600
acknowledged that at least in the bus

3050
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:07,120
situation, it was, but I think her

3051
02:42:05,600 --> 02:42:08,880
concern remains about sort of the

3052
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:10,560
practicality of it on a continuing

3053
02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:11,439
basis. Is that fair?

3054
02:42:10,560 --> 02:42:13,920
» What? I'm sorry.

3055
02:42:11,439 --> 02:42:16,080
» So, the the applicant mentioned that

3056
02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:18,560
they redesigned it the the entrance so a

3057
02:42:16,080 --> 02:42:20,640
school bus could enter and exit. I think

3058
02:42:18,560 --> 02:42:21,840
if I heard you correctly, you're just

3059
02:42:20,640 --> 02:42:23,680
concerned whether or not that will

3060
02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:25,600
actually occur like in the future. The

3061
02:42:23,680 --> 02:42:26,960
design is the one is one thing and the

3062
02:42:25,600 --> 02:42:28,399
other is it actually implemented that

3063
02:42:26,960 --> 02:42:28,880
way. Is is that a fair assessment?

3064
02:42:28,399 --> 02:42:30,000
» Correct.

3065
02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:32,160
» Okay.

3066
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:34,240
» And Commissioner Chamberlain, if those

3067
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:37,600
conditions were met, would that change

3068
02:42:34,240 --> 02:42:40,479
the position of the commission?

3069
02:42:37,600 --> 02:42:43,760
» If all three of those would have Yes, we

3070
02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:45,840
we would have voted otherwise.

3071
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:47,920
What if most of the conditions were met

3072
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:48,800
but not all of the conditions?

3073
02:42:47,920 --> 02:42:50,240
» What if I'm sorry?

3074
02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:51,520
» Well, I'm just thinking if most of the

3075
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:53,200
conditions were met, if you had like

3076
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:56,080
three sticking points and two out of the

3077
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:58,399
three could be met, would that satisfy

3078
02:42:56,080 --> 02:43:00,720
some of the concerns or no?

3079
02:42:58,399 --> 02:43:03,120
» No. Because basically at the last

3080
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:06,000
meeting when they came, they told us

3081
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:09,359
that two of the three were met um with

3082
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:13,600
the redesign of the bus going into the

3083
02:43:09,359 --> 02:43:15,439
um complex and then with the height

3084
02:43:13,600 --> 02:43:16,399
being reduced from three story to

3085
02:43:15,439 --> 02:43:16,800
twotory.

3086
02:43:16,399 --> 02:43:18,640
» Okay.

3087
02:43:16,800 --> 02:43:20,560
» So

3088
02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:22,240
» There question council members. So, so

3089
02:43:20,560 --> 02:43:23,439
Jennifer, I just want I just want to be

3090
02:43:22,240 --> 02:43:25,920
clear.

3091
02:43:23,439 --> 02:43:31,200
» If we have if there's an ability for us

3092
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:35,288
to mandate that the bus be able to enter

3093
02:43:31,200 --> 02:43:36,560
and exit the complex and that also

3094
02:43:35,288 --> 02:43:38,560
[clears throat] the frontmost building

3095
02:43:36,560 --> 02:43:40,800
be reduced from three stories to two

3096
02:43:38,560 --> 02:43:43,120
stories. The remainder of the concerns

3097
02:43:40,800 --> 02:43:46,319
from the community is just the 16.9

3098
02:43:43,120 --> 02:43:48,960
density versus 16.

3099
02:43:46,319 --> 02:43:50,479
» Okay. We we just wanted it to match the

3100
02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:52,720
surrounding.

3101
02:43:50,479 --> 02:43:55,840
There's not many apartments in the area,

3102
02:43:52,720 --> 02:44:00,800
but we wanted to maintain where the

3103
02:43:55,840 --> 02:44:02,479
others all were, which was in the the

3104
02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:05,479
under the 16.

3105
02:44:02,479 --> 02:44:05,479
» Okay.

3106
02:44:06,160 --> 02:44:10,000
» Uh other question, council members for

3107
02:44:07,760 --> 02:44:12,080
the air commission.

3108
02:44:10,000 --> 02:44:14,240
So, chair, I I just wanted to be able to

3109
02:44:12,080 --> 02:44:16,560
ask this out loud because um you know,

3110
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:18,399
and again, I um I can sense your

3111
02:44:16,560 --> 02:44:21,359
frustration and disappointment uh from

3112
02:44:18,399 --> 02:44:24,560
your comments here. I I guess when I

3113
02:44:21,359 --> 02:44:27,840
hear an applicant come in at well over

3114
02:44:24,560 --> 02:44:30,479
20 units per acre and that's coming down

3115
02:44:27,840 --> 02:44:32,240
to, you know, close to right around 17,

3116
02:44:30,479 --> 02:44:33,760
which is, you know, to be fair, above

3117
02:44:32,240 --> 02:44:35,840
what the area commission requested. And

3118
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:37,120
I'm just curious from a perspective of

3119
02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:39,200
how do you how how did the area

3120
02:44:37,120 --> 02:44:41,760
commission sort of arrive at 16 as the

3121
02:44:39,200 --> 02:44:44,720
number that made sense for you all?

3122
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:49,520
» The 16 was the apartments that were in

3123
02:44:44,720 --> 02:44:52,640
the area already. Um and again we just

3124
02:44:49,520 --> 02:44:55,200
wanted to match that. And when they

3125
02:44:52,640 --> 02:44:58,880
first came to our

3126
02:44:55,200 --> 02:45:01,680
uh the very first meeting with them

3127
02:44:58,880 --> 02:45:04,319
uh I I don't believe they were at the

3128
02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:08,960
over the 20 at that point. They had

3129
02:45:04,319 --> 02:45:12,319
already had a recommendation from I

3130
02:45:08,960 --> 02:45:15,200
think it it was city staff to reduce it

3131
02:45:12,319 --> 02:45:17,680
down so that it already had come to us

3132
02:45:15,200 --> 02:45:21,200
low much lower than that. They they just

3133
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:23,520
reduced it by a little. Uh

3134
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:24,800
» Okay. Yeah. I just want to I wanted the

3135
02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:26,319
body to sort of understand because we're

3136
02:45:24,800 --> 02:45:27,840
talking about many of these things are

3137
02:45:26,319 --> 02:45:29,680
moving throughout a process in which

3138
02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:31,279
they're applicants are getting you know

3139
02:45:29,680 --> 02:45:32,560
guidance from city staff. They're also

3140
02:45:31,279 --> 02:45:34,080
getting requests from an area commission

3141
02:45:32,560 --> 02:45:35,680
and those are you know different you

3142
02:45:34,080 --> 02:45:37,520
know sort of pushes and pulls as they

3143
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:39,439
sort of arrive to us. So I think for me

3144
02:45:37,520 --> 02:45:41,200
anyways it's just wanting members to

3145
02:45:39,439 --> 02:45:43,279
sort of digest sort of how do we got to

3146
02:45:41,200 --> 02:45:45,120
this place in which you all are saying

3147
02:45:43,279 --> 02:45:46,720
16 is is our number based upon from

3148
02:45:45,120 --> 02:45:48,479
hearing right. Hey, this is sort of what

3149
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:50,560
has been out there from a multi-unit

3150
02:45:48,479 --> 02:45:53,520
development within the area and them

3151
02:45:50,560 --> 02:45:56,319
saying, "Hey, we're we're at 16.9." Um,

3152
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:58,560
yeah. So, any other council member?

3153
02:45:56,319 --> 02:46:02,560
» I was just going to say from what I'm

3154
02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:05,200
seeing from the um from the briefing

3155
02:46:02,560 --> 02:46:07,520
document that we got, I believe one of

3156
02:46:05,200 --> 02:46:09,840
the buildings is down to a twotory.

3157
02:46:07,520 --> 02:46:11,760
» Yes, we asked Yeah, just for the the

3158
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:14,640
main one that sits right up against the

3159
02:46:11,760 --> 02:46:17,840
road that that be reduced down to two

3160
02:46:14,640 --> 02:46:19,680
stories. So there isn't such a

3161
02:46:17,840 --> 02:46:22,319
» Right such a high difference.

3162
02:46:19,680 --> 02:46:24,160
» And then the other thing so so that that

3163
02:46:22,319 --> 02:46:26,880
was one of the conditions right and then

3164
02:46:24,160 --> 02:46:29,200
the other one was the school bus which I

3165
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:30,800
hear you on that and we hear that often.

3166
02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:32,800
I mean

3167
02:46:30,800 --> 02:46:35,279
» You know I live as you all know I live

3168
02:46:32,800 --> 02:46:37,279
off of Broad Street and there is a a bus

3169
02:46:35,279 --> 02:46:40,560
even on Broad Street in the morning that

3170
02:46:37,279 --> 02:46:42,000
picks up a student. Um, and it it

3171
02:46:40,560 --> 02:46:43,920
certainly backs up traffic, but I know

3172
02:46:42,000 --> 02:46:45,520
in some of the areas where I think Broad

3173
02:46:43,920 --> 02:46:47,600
Street has the ability to have different

3174
02:46:45,520 --> 02:46:49,439
lanes, but I do believe that when we

3175
02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:51,680
talked to the applicant, and I brought

3176
02:46:49,439 --> 02:46:53,520
up this concern, I I thought, and the

3177
02:46:51,680 --> 02:46:55,760
applicant will come back up, but I I do

3178
02:46:53,520 --> 02:46:57,520
believe that they talked to the school

3179
02:46:55,760 --> 02:46:59,040
district about ensuring that the

3180
02:46:57,520 --> 02:47:01,120
clubhouse could be the drop off and

3181
02:46:59,040 --> 02:47:03,439
pickup for students. So, I just want to

3182
02:47:01,120 --> 02:47:05,760
make sure that we can ask the applicant

3183
02:47:03,439 --> 02:47:07,920
to confirm that when they come back up.

3184
02:47:05,760 --> 02:47:09,520
Mhm.

3185
02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:10,319
» Any other questions, council members,

3186
02:47:09,520 --> 02:47:12,240
for the air commission?

3187
02:47:10,319 --> 02:47:14,000
» It's not a question. It's a it's it's a

3188
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:17,760
it's a comment. I know we have other

3189
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:21,359
speakers that will speak to this,

3190
02:47:17,760 --> 02:47:23,040
» But I I I I do

3191
02:47:21,359 --> 02:47:27,279
one I would still encourage regardless

3192
02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:29,439
of how this vote goes down that

3193
02:47:27,279 --> 02:47:32,880
we acknowledge that the role and the

3194
02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:34,640
advocacy does change things. every

3195
02:47:32,880 --> 02:47:36,560
everything right now what we literally

3196
02:47:34,640 --> 02:47:39,600
are talking about is one of the three

3197
02:47:36,560 --> 02:47:42,399
did not totally get met

3198
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:44,000
which means that your the things that

3199
02:47:42,399 --> 02:47:45,359
happened at your meeting and I know we

3200
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:47,920
all have constituencies you're my

3201
02:47:45,359 --> 02:47:52,080
constituent who lives in the district

3202
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:53,920
that I represent but your advocacy and

3203
02:47:52,080 --> 02:47:58,000
the advocacy of the area commission

3204
02:47:53,920 --> 02:48:00,880
changed this deal by a lot

3205
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:05,040
and so so I don't want us to devalue

3206
02:48:00,880 --> 02:48:07,279
your work in front of the community who

3207
02:48:05,040 --> 02:48:10,000
of course they want

3208
02:48:07,279 --> 02:48:13,120
every piece of it. But we all know this

3209
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:15,359
is democracy. This is this is it's never

3210
02:48:13,120 --> 02:48:17,279
only you get everything or or the

3211
02:48:15,359 --> 02:48:19,920
highway and or we're taking our ball and

3212
02:48:17,279 --> 02:48:23,200
going home. And so I we will work

3213
02:48:19,920 --> 02:48:26,399
through and I I'm I'm eager to hear and

3214
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:29,600
talk through with the residents who are

3215
02:48:26,399 --> 02:48:31,920
coming to speak about this. But I the

3216
02:48:29,600 --> 02:48:34,479
reason I was I I got the list of things

3217
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:36,319
that we we asked for and it was I mean

3218
02:48:34,479 --> 02:48:38,960
they were checking them off specifically

3219
02:48:36,319 --> 02:48:40,160
on the bus one. They went to the school

3220
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:45,120
district and the school district said

3221
02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:47,920
yes that this would work. And so

3222
02:48:45,120 --> 02:48:50,080
I I I I just that was this is just to

3223
02:48:47,920 --> 02:48:53,120
support you and your work. Don't don't

3224
02:48:50,080 --> 02:48:56,080
don't be demoralized by

3225
02:48:53,120 --> 02:48:58,160
getting 90% there if that's the if

3226
02:48:56,080 --> 02:49:00,240
that's the way this council votes. We do

3227
02:48:58,160 --> 02:49:01,359
have we we this is I think I can speak

3228
02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:03,600
for the council and saying this is a

3229
02:49:01,359 --> 02:49:05,279
proousousing council. When we say that

3230
02:49:03,600 --> 02:49:07,359
that there's not there's not that many

3231
02:49:05,279 --> 02:49:08,720
apartments out there that actually is

3232
02:49:07,359 --> 02:49:11,040
the argument for why there probably

3233
02:49:08,720 --> 02:49:12,640
needs to be some. We you and I live I

3234
02:49:11,040 --> 02:49:15,359
live out there. I live right on the

3235
02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:17,359
corner of McNottton and

3236
02:49:15,359 --> 02:49:19,840
we know all those businesses right

3237
02:49:17,359 --> 02:49:22,640
there. We know that they don't pay that

3238
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:24,880
much. So who's going to work over there?

3239
02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:26,640
Where are they going to live? And so I

3240
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:28,319
think having a mixed community which and

3241
02:49:26,640 --> 02:49:30,800
and I know why we fight so hard to keep

3242
02:49:28,319 --> 02:49:32,880
it because it's amazing side of town.

3243
02:49:30,800 --> 02:49:34,000
That's why I love living there. But I

3244
02:49:32,880 --> 02:49:35,520
just wanted to that was just for the

3245
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:38,000
area commission. We got very specific

3246
02:49:35,520 --> 02:49:40,479
things that some of your constituents my

3247
02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:42,720
constituents will debate and I will I

3248
02:49:40,479 --> 02:49:45,040
will engage that way. But just for for

3249
02:49:42,720 --> 02:49:48,399
your leadership I'm saying thank you.

3250
02:49:45,040 --> 02:49:50,080
You you work you work hard and um just

3251
02:49:48,399 --> 02:49:52,160
want to say that. Well, Council

3252
02:49:50,080 --> 02:49:54,160
President, I will continue and we will

3253
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:57,120
continue to meet with the community and

3254
02:49:54,160 --> 02:50:00,399
and the developers and work with them,

3255
02:49:57,120 --> 02:50:03,359
but it it just feels like when we when

3256
02:50:00,399 --> 02:50:05,439
we come here, the decisions already

3257
02:50:03,359 --> 02:50:06,160
made. So,

3258
02:50:05,439 --> 02:50:09,840
» I appreciate you.

3259
02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:11,680
» We're done. Thank you.

3260
02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:13,040
» Uh, as I mentioned, we have two other

3261
02:50:11,680 --> 02:50:15,760
public speakers trying to speak on this

3262
02:50:13,040 --> 02:50:17,600
ordinance. Um, I do apologize if I get

3263
02:50:15,760 --> 02:50:20,000
anyone's names wrong, so please correct

3264
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:24,000
me uh if if I do at the podium. The

3265
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:27,000
first public speaker is Michael uh Gund

3266
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:27,000
Gunter.

3267
02:50:27,439 --> 02:50:33,960
» Michael Gther. All right. Rolls off the

3268
02:50:29,920 --> 02:50:33,960
tongue there. Welcome to Cousin.

3269
02:50:34,720 --> 02:50:38,439
» Welcome to council, sir.

3270
02:50:41,680 --> 02:50:45,120
» Second cousin maybe.

3271
02:50:49,840 --> 02:50:57,840
I know some of you already talked to

3272
02:50:52,800 --> 02:51:00,720
Phil and the the the the author of this

3273
02:50:57,840 --> 02:51:04,319
outlet and but he can't be here because

3274
02:51:00,720 --> 02:51:06,720
his excuse me his wife had cancer and

3275
02:51:04,319 --> 02:51:10,160
they're on uh

3276
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:13,200
she finished her chemo.

3277
02:51:10,160 --> 02:51:15,760
So, uh, he promised her a trip to her

3278
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:18,399
family in Dominican Republic. So, that's

3279
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:20,399
why he I handed this out. He would be

3280
02:51:18,399 --> 02:51:23,439
here to do this. If you look through

3281
02:51:20,399 --> 02:51:26,800
there while I'm talking, you'll see what

3282
02:51:23,439 --> 02:51:30,920
this property has to offer without a

3283
02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:30,920
department put on it.

3284
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:38,160
I live My name is Michael Ginther. I

3285
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:41,279
live at 81 Kennedy Road. I'm here to

3286
02:51:38,160 --> 02:51:43,200
oppose the reszoning of the 15 acres

3287
02:51:41,279 --> 02:51:45,439
located on the north side of Kennedy

3288
02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:48,479
Road for the purpose of building a

3289
02:51:45,439 --> 02:51:50,080
multi-residential development for metro

3290
02:51:48,479 --> 02:51:52,960
development.

3291
02:51:50,080 --> 02:51:55,520
It is a false premise that a need for

3292
02:51:52,960 --> 02:51:58,240
more apartments exist in this area. I

3293
02:51:55,520 --> 02:52:00,319
have researched the availability

3294
02:51:58,240 --> 02:52:03,279
of apartments in the Black Lick area

3295
02:52:00,319 --> 02:52:06,080
from one site apartments.com.

3296
02:52:03,279 --> 02:52:08,880
The number of empty apartments within

3297
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:11,880
the small cities around Columbus is

3298
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:11,880
3,713.

3299
02:52:12,319 --> 02:52:20,960
Black Lake already has 1,096.

3300
02:52:15,600 --> 02:52:24,720
Gahana, 125, Patascal 538,

3301
02:52:20,960 --> 02:52:28,560
Whiteall 300, New Albany 54,

3302
02:52:24,720 --> 02:52:30,720
Reynoldsburg 700 apartments.

3303
02:52:28,560 --> 02:52:32,880
This does not include the new apartments

3304
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:36,000
that are being built right now on Taylor

3305
02:52:32,880 --> 02:52:38,319
Station Road and Morris Road. Those are

3306
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:40,960
massive apartments being built. It

3307
02:52:38,319 --> 02:52:43,279
appears the development in this area

3308
02:52:40,960 --> 02:52:45,760
right now is more about profit and

3309
02:52:43,279 --> 02:52:47,840
concessions from the state and the city

3310
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:50,800
of Columbus rather than a need for

3311
02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:54,319
housing. Houses for rent in the same

3312
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:59,040
areas as 454.

3313
02:52:54,319 --> 02:53:01,600
houses for sale in the same area as 444.

3314
02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:03,120
So just as small surrounding area around

3315
02:53:01,600 --> 02:53:06,479
Columbus,

3316
02:53:03,120 --> 02:53:09,359
I mean around Black Lake. The 15 acres

3317
02:53:06,479 --> 02:53:12,880
is not farmland. It is full of life,

3318
02:53:09,359 --> 02:53:15,520
bats, deer, foxes, birds of all kinds,

3319
02:53:12,880 --> 02:53:18,399
thousands of trees, some of them 80

3320
02:53:15,520 --> 02:53:20,640
years old and older. All of them home

3321
02:53:18,399 --> 02:53:23,120
and shelter for these animals. They

3322
02:53:20,640 --> 02:53:26,160
already sent in bulldozers and drills

3323
02:53:23,120 --> 02:53:29,200
and plowed over the wet areas that Mr.

3324
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:30,880
Levit has found to have the core of

3325
02:53:29,200 --> 02:53:33,760
engineers come look at. And the

3326
02:53:30,880 --> 02:53:36,000
bulldozers plowed it over and the drill

3327
02:53:33,760 --> 02:53:39,200
brakes got stuck in the same area

3328
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:42,319
because it is a wet area.

3329
02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:47,520
A complaint with the Army Corine

3330
02:53:42,319 --> 02:53:49,279
has been filed. file number LRH 2000

3331
02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:52,160
00162

3332
02:53:49,279 --> 02:53:56,120
assigned to Lee Arco and his phone

3333
02:53:52,160 --> 02:53:56,120
number 304399

3334
02:53:56,160 --> 02:54:01,040
5210

3335
02:53:57,680 --> 02:54:03,840
at this time it is unknown if he has

3336
02:54:01,040 --> 02:54:06,800
contacted Mr. Leon,

3337
02:54:03,840 --> 02:54:09,600
the removal of three houses, two brand

3338
02:54:06,800 --> 02:54:11,840
new pole barns on 15 acres of

3339
02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:15,279
long-standing woodlands for more

3340
02:54:11,840 --> 02:54:18,319
apartments makes no sense at all.

3341
02:54:15,279 --> 02:54:22,399
Other than that, the as you can tell

3342
02:54:18,319 --> 02:54:26,160
from the outlet and from the handout,

3343
02:54:22,399 --> 02:54:29,760
Franklin County has already deemed that

3344
02:54:26,160 --> 02:54:33,680
wetlands unacceptable for a buildings

3345
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:36,319
because it's underground. Now, Phil,

3346
02:54:33,680 --> 02:54:38,880
excuse me, Phil has worked his whole

3347
02:54:36,319 --> 02:54:41,279
life is in water and everything. So, if

3348
02:54:38,880 --> 02:54:43,200
you look through that, you'll see he

3349
02:54:41,279 --> 02:54:46,240
knows what he's talking about. He's

3350
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:48,399
contacted the Army Corps of Engineers

3351
02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:52,560
and I'm not sure if they contacted him

3352
02:54:48,399 --> 02:54:54,880
back or not, but uh I don't think your

3353
02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:57,040
vote I think your vote should be no or

3354
02:54:54,880 --> 02:54:59,439
if you need to hear from Phil himself

3355
02:54:57,040 --> 02:55:02,560
when he gets back from

3356
02:54:59,439 --> 02:55:05,840
uh Dominican Republic to explain more of

3357
02:55:02,560 --> 02:55:09,040
what you're looking at because this is a

3358
02:55:05,840 --> 02:55:13,279
there's some wet spots. I own the pond

3359
02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:16,160
that's on the other side and my my pond

3360
02:55:13,279 --> 02:55:20,000
is completely springfed and it runs

3361
02:55:16,160 --> 02:55:21,840
through the 15 acres. So in the last

3362
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:24,560
council meeting he said, "Well, you got

3363
02:55:21,840 --> 02:55:27,200
to the developers got to come up with a

3364
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:30,880
plan because all of my water they can't

3365
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:33,840
stop my water from leaving my land.

3366
02:55:30,880 --> 02:55:36,560
There's there's uh the springs and all

3367
02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:39,120
the way down Kennedy Road. All those

3368
02:55:36,560 --> 02:55:43,359
ponds down Kennedy Road are springfed

3369
02:55:39,120 --> 02:55:46,640
ponds. So the whole area is water under

3370
02:55:43,359 --> 02:55:49,439
the ground and it bubbles up and fills

3371
02:55:46,640 --> 02:55:51,279
ponds. They dug ponds. It fills back up.

3372
02:55:49,439 --> 02:55:55,120
Then it goes back underground. So when

3373
02:55:51,279 --> 02:55:58,160
they start digging all this property off

3374
02:55:55,120 --> 02:56:00,880
the from my ground level, the surveyor

3375
02:55:58,160 --> 02:56:03,840
was there last week or the week before,

3376
02:56:00,880 --> 02:56:06,880
they've got to dig down 4 feet of dirt

3377
02:56:03,840 --> 02:56:09,680
to make their level level with my level

3378
02:56:06,880 --> 02:56:11,439
so the water don't flow to my property.

3379
02:56:09,680 --> 02:56:15,600
So then they're already getting closer

3380
02:56:11,439 --> 02:56:19,760
to the water table. Uh my house and the

3381
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:23,359
other houses east of me are all on uh

3382
02:56:19,760 --> 02:56:26,240
septic septic tanks and spring water. I

3383
02:56:23,359 --> 02:56:28,240
nobody's on city water. So when they

3384
02:56:26,240 --> 02:56:30,479
start digging, they're going to affect

3385
02:56:28,240 --> 02:56:33,279
our water outflow

3386
02:56:30,479 --> 02:56:35,200
also.

3387
02:56:33,279 --> 02:56:38,200
» Uh any question my colleagues from Mr.

3388
02:56:35,200 --> 02:56:38,200
Gther?

3389
02:56:39,680 --> 02:56:43,040
» Thank you sir.

3390
02:56:41,040 --> 02:56:44,880
» Thank you very much.

3391
02:56:43,040 --> 02:56:47,840
Uh the next speaker to come for council

3392
02:56:44,880 --> 02:56:50,399
is Mr. John C. Lesson Jr.

3393
02:56:47,840 --> 02:56:54,279
Mr. Leon, welcome to council.

3394
02:56:50,399 --> 02:56:54,279
» Leon, thank you.

3395
02:57:05,680 --> 02:57:12,319
» I was uh the third house built in

3396
02:57:10,479 --> 02:57:15,920
Jefferson Pond.

3397
02:57:12,319 --> 02:57:20,720
and uh been there over 20 years

3398
02:57:15,920 --> 02:57:24,479
and what this is like to me this makes

3399
02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:28,240
no sense because it's a complete wetland

3400
02:57:24,479 --> 02:57:31,600
area as Michael said it's uh it would be

3401
02:57:28,240 --> 02:57:34,880
a dynamic area for like affordable

3402
02:57:31,600 --> 02:57:38,720
housing for for you you talk about you

3403
02:57:34,880 --> 02:57:41,520
want to help people so if you built like

3404
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:45,840
small houses in there

3405
02:57:41,520 --> 02:57:49,680
for affordable housing like uh firsttime

3406
02:57:45,840 --> 02:57:52,080
buyer that would be ideal because uh

3407
02:57:49,680 --> 02:57:54,720
what's going to happen is like he said

3408
02:57:52,080 --> 02:57:58,560
the water table

3409
02:57:54,720 --> 02:58:02,640
okay if they don't if they don't level

3410
02:57:58,560 --> 02:58:05,359
with the table they got to like 15 acres

3411
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:07,279
4 feet they got to push all that dirt

3412
02:58:05,359 --> 02:58:09,920
you know to level it if they don't do

3413
02:58:07,279 --> 02:58:12,240
that all that water is just going to go

3414
02:58:09,920 --> 02:58:15,120
flow back in our development. And the

3415
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:17,439
first time that water goes into my

3416
02:58:15,120 --> 02:58:20,880
basement, because I've lived there 20

3417
02:58:17,439 --> 02:58:23,600
years, the the pond

3418
02:58:20,880 --> 02:58:26,640
when it's when it rains and floods in

3419
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:29,920
the spring, it's beautiful because it

3420
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:33,760
builds a little creek right by the side

3421
02:58:29,920 --> 02:58:37,520
and and actually fish come out and swim

3422
02:58:33,760 --> 02:58:40,000
around in the in the actual neighborhood

3423
02:58:37,520 --> 02:58:42,479
right there because it's all wet land.

3424
02:58:40,000 --> 02:58:46,080
And then it it goes back out in the

3425
02:58:42,479 --> 02:58:49,279
summer. It you know it it's I mean it's

3426
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:52,560
like I drive a truck and I did

3427
02:58:49,279 --> 02:58:55,520
construction for before that and to me

3428
02:58:52,560 --> 02:58:59,840
this is like ridiculous

3429
02:58:55,520 --> 02:59:03,439
be not to mention Kennedy Road is going

3430
02:58:59,840 --> 02:59:06,800
to be a nightmare once they have those

3431
02:59:03,439 --> 02:59:10,319
200 plus units in there. It's going to

3432
02:59:06,800 --> 02:59:12,560
be I bet you have road rage out the

3433
02:59:10,319 --> 02:59:16,720
yin-yang. I mean, you're going to have

3434
02:59:12,560 --> 02:59:18,240
fights. It's going to get insane then.

3435
02:59:16,720 --> 02:59:21,200
Go ahead.

3436
02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:24,160
» Oh, I thought you had a question.

3437
02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:27,840
» Well, I'm just telling you it's the

3438
02:59:24,160 --> 02:59:31,439
community is and then I know that you

3439
02:59:27,840 --> 02:59:34,640
don't care about I mean the environment

3440
02:59:31,439 --> 02:59:37,920
you but the environment is beautiful. I

3441
02:59:34,640 --> 02:59:41,439
mean it is. We've got screechiles. We've

3442
02:59:37,920 --> 02:59:43,439
got families of deer. We've got and

3443
02:59:41,439 --> 02:59:46,240
they're all

3444
02:59:43,439 --> 02:59:48,160
It's just amaz We have cranes. We have

3445
02:59:46,240 --> 02:59:51,439
because And then they're talking about

3446
02:59:48,160 --> 02:59:54,080
they're going to build an opening in

3447
02:59:51,439 --> 02:59:57,600
their apartment area so they can come

3448
02:59:54,080 --> 03:00:01,439
into Jefferson Pond and mess and and

3449
02:59:57,600 --> 03:00:04,640
have access to the pond, you know. And

3450
03:00:01,439 --> 03:00:07,040
when I live when I moved there, I I

3451
03:00:04,640 --> 03:00:09,680
never thought that there would be I

3452
03:00:07,040 --> 03:00:12,399
mean, like he said, there's trees 80

3453
03:00:09,680 --> 03:00:15,840
feet tall that have been there and it's

3454
03:00:12,399 --> 03:00:18,399
just and now you're just going to it's

3455
03:00:15,840 --> 03:00:21,520
going to be a joke. And the water table,

3456
03:00:18,399 --> 03:00:23,520
the minute the minute that water flies

3457
03:00:21,520 --> 03:00:25,680
falls into,

3458
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:29,040
you know, then that's going to be a

3459
03:00:25,680 --> 03:00:32,399
mess. It's going to it it just makes no

3460
03:00:29,040 --> 03:00:35,760
sense. It's going to be a nightmare for

3461
03:00:32,399 --> 03:00:39,040
uh flooding. It's going to be uh the bus

3462
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:41,120
route is going to be insane for the

3463
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:43,840
kids. And the minute they open that up

3464
03:00:41,120 --> 03:00:46,160
and a kid goes back there in that pond

3465
03:00:43,840 --> 03:00:48,560
and drowns because they're going to open

3466
03:00:46,160 --> 03:00:52,399
that all up and then we'll have kids in

3467
03:00:48,560 --> 03:00:55,120
the pond drowning. It's not it just

3468
03:00:52,399 --> 03:00:58,240
single family houses would be because

3469
03:00:55,120 --> 03:01:00,399
you could control the water flow a lot

3470
03:00:58,240 --> 03:01:03,040
better and not mess up all the wells and

3471
03:01:00,399 --> 03:01:05,920
not mess up the water. I mean that just

3472
03:01:03,040 --> 03:01:08,720
but I I'm not I'm I'm not a very good

3473
03:01:05,920 --> 03:01:12,640
presenter, you know. I'm not I drive a

3474
03:01:08,720 --> 03:01:16,080
semi. So, I work hard for a living, you

3475
03:01:12,640 --> 03:01:19,200
know, and I I when I moved there, that

3476
03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:22,479
was I was going to stay there till I die

3477
03:01:19,200 --> 03:01:25,279
or until I, you know, whatever. I mean,

3478
03:01:22,479 --> 03:01:28,080
I've been there 20ome. It's awesome. And

3479
03:01:25,279 --> 03:01:31,040
now it's I'm just like, if I could show

3480
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:33,920
you a view on my phone, my bedroom is

3481
03:01:31,040 --> 03:01:37,760
just it's I look out my master window

3482
03:01:33,920 --> 03:01:40,720
and it's just trees and like you hear

3483
03:01:37,760 --> 03:01:42,960
the owls, you hear the it's just

3484
03:01:40,720 --> 03:01:46,479
amazing. And to put apartments back

3485
03:01:42,960 --> 03:01:48,399
there, it's like it's it makes no sense.

3486
03:01:46,479 --> 03:01:51,359
Especially with all the wetland and

3487
03:01:48,399 --> 03:01:54,960
everything and where are all the animals

3488
03:01:51,359 --> 03:01:56,960
going to go? They're gonna be it's gonna

3489
03:01:54,960 --> 03:02:00,640
be a mess. There's a whole family of

3490
03:01:56,960 --> 03:02:03,600
deer like 20ome deer. I mean it's and

3491
03:02:00,640 --> 03:02:05,760
it's So what was your question?

3492
03:02:03,600 --> 03:02:07,600
» Thank you. Um want to see about my

3493
03:02:05,760 --> 03:02:08,720
council colleagues questions for our

3494
03:02:07,600 --> 03:02:10,000
public speaker.

3495
03:02:08,720 --> 03:02:10,319
» Uh John.

3496
03:02:10,000 --> 03:02:11,439
» Yeah.

3497
03:02:10,319 --> 03:02:13,520
» Can I call you John?

3498
03:02:11,439 --> 03:02:16,080
» Yeah, you call me John. My my friends

3499
03:02:13,520 --> 03:02:16,640
call me Jay, but my legal name is John.

3500
03:02:16,080 --> 03:02:18,319
So

3501
03:02:16,640 --> 03:02:18,720
» Well, I hope to be your friend one day,

3502
03:02:18,319 --> 03:02:19,600
John.

3503
03:02:18,720 --> 03:02:20,000
» Okay. Hopefully.

3504
03:02:19,600 --> 03:02:22,160
» Um

3505
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:24,720
» We'll see.

3506
03:02:22,160 --> 03:02:26,800
So, [laughter]

3507
03:02:24,720 --> 03:02:28,960
so you're a great speaker by the way.

3508
03:02:26,800 --> 03:02:33,520
You're a great presenter. It you did a

3509
03:02:28,960 --> 03:02:36,880
great job. Question for you is my wonder

3510
03:02:33,520 --> 03:02:39,120
is when you talk about So, I live in

3511
03:02:36,880 --> 03:02:43,520
what was once dairy land. I live on the

3512
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:45,760
east side. I are I live close to Alm

3513
03:02:43,520 --> 03:02:48,160
Creek. We've our a lot of our basements

3514
03:02:45,760 --> 03:02:49,920
fled. Also, I also have deer in my

3515
03:02:48,160 --> 03:02:51,760
backyard. So, I feel like the deer will

3516
03:02:49,920 --> 03:02:54,319
still come no matter what. But my

3517
03:02:51,760 --> 03:02:56,479
question for you is when you talk about

3518
03:02:54,319 --> 03:02:58,160
single family homes being there rather

3519
03:02:56,479 --> 03:03:00,240
than apartments, wouldn't we have the

3520
03:02:58,160 --> 03:03:01,840
same issues though?

3521
03:03:00,240 --> 03:03:04,000
» Because you're talking about development

3522
03:03:01,840 --> 03:03:05,920
like you're there's one thing to say

3523
03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:07,840
don't disturb this because it's wetlands

3524
03:03:05,920 --> 03:03:09,439
and it's beautiful and whatever. But if

3525
03:03:07,840 --> 03:03:11,200
we're disturbing it anyways, what's the

3526
03:03:09,439 --> 03:03:13,279
difference between the apartments and

3527
03:03:11,200 --> 03:03:14,640
single family homes? Because if we built

3528
03:03:13,279 --> 03:03:16,560
all of those and that means we're

3529
03:03:14,640 --> 03:03:19,279
building streets, that means we're

3530
03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:21,279
building access. That means, you know,

3531
03:03:19,279 --> 03:03:23,200
I'm not sure where the disruption might

3532
03:03:21,279 --> 03:03:25,600
be different than putting those

3533
03:03:23,200 --> 03:03:26,800
apartments there. So, I'm just wondering

3534
03:03:25,600 --> 03:03:28,160
what your thought process is.

3535
03:03:26,800 --> 03:03:30,080
» Well, yeah, cuz you wouldn't have all

3536
03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:32,080
that concrete. You wouldn't have all

3537
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:32,960
that. It' be there would be a you you

3538
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:34,720
know, wouldn't

3539
03:03:32,960 --> 03:03:36,720
» Well, you need a city street though and

3540
03:03:34,720 --> 03:03:38,720
then everybody might want a driveway.

3541
03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:42,720
So, I feel like it's still the same.

3542
03:03:38,720 --> 03:03:44,880
» You have grass and so the there would be

3543
03:03:42,720 --> 03:03:46,640
grass and there would be and it would

3544
03:03:44,880 --> 03:03:48,319
and it would help. I mean, because a lot

3545
03:03:46,640 --> 03:03:50,080
of people want to live in that area

3546
03:03:48,319 --> 03:03:52,960
because it's beautiful

3547
03:03:50,080 --> 03:03:56,479
» And it's and like I sent my daughter to

3548
03:03:52,960 --> 03:03:59,920
Grace Christian there, you know, and I

3549
03:03:56,479 --> 03:04:00,319
mean, so it's just

3550
03:03:59,920 --> 03:04:02,479
» Cuz I

3551
03:04:00,319 --> 03:04:05,840
» I just don't think an apartment building

3552
03:04:02,479 --> 03:04:09,120
is just all that density

3553
03:04:05,840 --> 03:04:11,680
right there at at once is just going to

3554
03:04:09,120 --> 03:04:14,000
be I mean, think about it. all those

3555
03:04:11,680 --> 03:04:17,680
people going to work on Kennedy Road

3556
03:04:14,000 --> 03:04:20,000
coming out. It's going to be a mess.

3557
03:04:17,680 --> 03:04:21,760
» Well, I'm just and I'm and I'm asking

3558
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:23,279
just because I think we haven't had an

3559
03:04:21,760 --> 03:04:26,000
opportunity to have conversations about

3560
03:04:23,279 --> 03:04:28,000
it because, you know, I think about how

3561
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:29,920
beautiful the place is and if you could

3562
03:04:28,000 --> 03:04:31,359
only afford a house there, that means

3563
03:04:29,920 --> 03:04:33,520
that's the only way you would be able to

3564
03:04:31,359 --> 03:04:36,479
afford that beauty there, right? And so

3565
03:04:33,520 --> 03:04:38,479
when I think about apartments, I mean, I

3566
03:04:36,479 --> 03:04:40,720
I've shared this story many times. My

3567
03:04:38,479 --> 03:04:42,640
niece has twins. She lived in my house

3568
03:04:40,720 --> 03:04:44,319
for two years cuz she couldn't because

3569
03:04:42,640 --> 03:04:47,040
apartment rates are really expensive,

3570
03:04:44,319 --> 03:04:48,479
right? And so

3571
03:04:47,040 --> 03:04:50,240
she should be able to live anywhere in

3572
03:04:48,479 --> 03:04:51,520
the city that she wants to live, not in

3573
03:04:50,240 --> 03:04:53,520
this place or this place cuz that's

3574
03:04:51,520 --> 03:04:55,200
where affordable housing is. And so I

3575
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:57,520
think apartments are that like middle

3576
03:04:55,200 --> 03:04:58,640
road for people before you can buy a

3577
03:04:57,520 --> 03:05:00,479
house. I mean, there's going to be some

3578
03:04:58,640 --> 03:05:02,080
people who may never be able to afford a

3579
03:05:00,479 --> 03:05:04,240
house and who are going to live in an

3580
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:05,760
apartment. And so that's the only re

3581
03:05:04,240 --> 03:05:08,319
that's the reason I'm asking is because

3582
03:05:05,760 --> 03:05:10,160
I think about people you know I mean I

3583
03:05:08,319 --> 03:05:13,359
think about our staff here. I think

3584
03:05:10,160 --> 03:05:15,200
about you know other folks who want to

3585
03:05:13,359 --> 03:05:17,120
live in beautiful places as well and

3586
03:05:15,200 --> 03:05:18,720
want to have someplace that's affordable

3587
03:05:17,120 --> 03:05:21,279
for them to live and so

3588
03:05:18,720 --> 03:05:23,600
» And then maybe smaller apartments but we

3589
03:05:21,279 --> 03:05:27,520
don't need no threestory freaking

3590
03:05:23,600 --> 03:05:30,720
monsters. Do you know? What about what

3591
03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:33,439
about little small little uh like like I

3592
03:05:30,720 --> 03:05:36,399
don't know if you guys were Wand dot was

3593
03:05:33,439 --> 03:05:37,760
built and Willis Park area something

3594
03:05:36,399 --> 03:05:39,520
like that you know

3595
03:05:37,760 --> 03:05:41,439
» So you so would been it would have been

3596
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:43,600
okay it's just the density really at the

3597
03:05:41,439 --> 03:05:43,920
end of the day it's the density that

3598
03:05:43,600 --> 03:05:46,960
you're

3599
03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:50,399
» I mean it needs to be broken up not like

3600
03:05:46,960 --> 03:05:52,960
uh some big freaking threestory

3601
03:05:50,399 --> 03:05:56,800
building that you know looks like a I

3602
03:05:52,960 --> 03:05:58,960
just it's stupid and then all the water

3603
03:05:56,800 --> 03:06:01,359
it go it has nowhere to go because

3604
03:05:58,960 --> 03:06:03,600
there's not going to be you know it's

3605
03:06:01,359 --> 03:06:06,960
going to be all black top concrete and

3606
03:06:03,600 --> 03:06:10,640
all that it's going to be a mess and it

3607
03:06:06,960 --> 03:06:14,560
and they have to push all that it's like

3608
03:06:10,640 --> 03:06:17,840
I think what Michael said like and

3609
03:06:14,560 --> 03:06:20,800
four feet you know 15 acres all that

3610
03:06:17,840 --> 03:06:22,960
dirt's got to be cuz the minute they

3611
03:06:20,800 --> 03:06:24,880
it's going to do this and flow right

3612
03:06:22,960 --> 03:06:26,720
back into Jefferson Pond subdivision

3613
03:06:24,880 --> 03:06:29,840
vision. It's going to be we'll be

3614
03:06:26,720 --> 03:06:32,080
floating around the boats, you know. I

3615
03:06:29,840 --> 03:06:33,840
mean, it'll be crazy.

3616
03:06:32,080 --> 03:06:35,359
» Thank you so much, Frank.

3617
03:06:33,840 --> 03:06:37,279
» Thank you so much for your testimony.

3618
03:06:35,359 --> 03:06:40,000
» And Jay, I I take your point about this

3619
03:06:37,279 --> 03:06:41,520
water table issue that that is to the

3620
03:06:40,000 --> 03:06:42,800
development team. That is what I'll ask

3621
03:06:41,520 --> 03:06:44,880
about when they come back up.

3622
03:06:42,800 --> 03:06:45,760
Understanding trying to understand

3623
03:06:44,880 --> 03:06:47,120
» This 4 foot

3624
03:06:45,760 --> 03:06:49,359
» I was going to I was going to ask the

3625
03:06:47,120 --> 03:06:52,479
same question as well. It's wetlands.

3626
03:06:49,359 --> 03:06:54,080
It's not it's it's not made for big

3627
03:06:52,479 --> 03:06:56,640
monstrous

3628
03:06:54,080 --> 03:07:01,040
apartment buildings. I mean, small

3629
03:06:56,640 --> 03:07:01,439
little starter homes would be ideal. You

3630
03:07:01,040 --> 03:07:02,640
know,

3631
03:07:01,439 --> 03:07:05,120
» I still think you would have the same

3632
03:07:02,640 --> 03:07:07,120
issue. I I think to your point, council

3633
03:07:05,120 --> 03:07:08,800
president, I think understanding from

3634
03:07:07,120 --> 03:07:11,040
the developer what to do with the water

3635
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:12,880
because again, I mean, I live in a

3636
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:14,960
neighborhood that is houses and we still

3637
03:07:12,880 --> 03:07:16,000
have a water issue. So, I think just

3638
03:07:14,960 --> 03:07:17,600
understanding it what they're going to

3639
03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:20,000
do. I don't think it matters whether you

3640
03:07:17,600 --> 03:07:21,760
do apartments or houses if you

3641
03:07:20,000 --> 03:07:24,880
» And I don't want to look out my bedroom

3642
03:07:21,760 --> 03:07:28,160
window and have this gigantic threestory

3643
03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:30,720
building that can look right into my

3644
03:07:28,160 --> 03:07:34,720
master bedroom, you know? I mean, make

3645
03:07:30,720 --> 03:07:36,240
it, you know, smaller, you know, cuz

3646
03:07:34,720 --> 03:07:37,840
like I said, they're supposed to the

3647
03:07:36,240 --> 03:07:40,000
trees

3648
03:07:37,840 --> 03:07:41,680
are like supposed but they cut down

3649
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:44,160
tree. They they think they've already

3650
03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:46,720
got it done cuz they came back there

3651
03:07:44,160 --> 03:07:49,760
with the bulldozer and cut down a bunch

3652
03:07:46,720 --> 03:07:51,760
of trees and and did and they weren't

3653
03:07:49,760 --> 03:07:53,840
supposed to do that. So they they think

3654
03:07:51,760 --> 03:07:54,399
this is already a done deal. They've

3655
03:07:53,840 --> 03:07:56,640
already

3656
03:07:54,399 --> 03:07:57,920
» Thank you. Thank you for your testimony.

3657
03:07:56,640 --> 03:08:00,240
Any other question, my council

3658
03:07:57,920 --> 03:08:02,720
colleagues for public speaker? I I think

3659
03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:04,560
we've got lots of questions for the the

3660
03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:06,160
applicant. So thank you very much for

3661
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:08,160
for coming down. I want to invite the

3662
03:08:06,160 --> 03:08:11,439
applicants representative uh back up to

3663
03:08:08,160 --> 03:08:11,439
answer some of these questions.

3664
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:18,160
Welcome back, Miss Cedorf. I'm going to

3665
03:08:15,680 --> 03:08:20,160
go ahead and probably turn this over to

3666
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:23,120
I think council president had some

3667
03:08:20,160 --> 03:08:24,160
questions on water. So, I will turn it

3668
03:08:23,120 --> 03:08:27,200
over to him.

3669
03:08:24,160 --> 03:08:30,800
» Thank you. So, this conversation around

3670
03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:33,520
um uh water water seepage leveling off

3671
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:34,960
compared to the adjacent properties. How

3672
03:08:33,520 --> 03:08:35,760
can you just walk us through that part

3673
03:08:34,960 --> 03:08:38,479
of the conversation in terms of

3674
03:08:35,760 --> 03:08:40,479
development? Yeah. So, this property um

3675
03:08:38,479 --> 03:08:42,560
grades from the highest point will be in

3676
03:08:40,479 --> 03:08:44,160
the north point and it will grade down

3677
03:08:42,560 --> 03:08:47,120
to the pond. I don't know if you could

3678
03:08:44,160 --> 03:08:49,359
put the site plan back up. Um but the

3679
03:08:47,120 --> 03:08:51,040
intent is and and as you know as part of

3680
03:08:49,359 --> 03:08:54,160
the final site compliance plan, there's

3681
03:08:51,040 --> 03:08:56,720
extensive engineering done um on this

3682
03:08:54,160 --> 03:08:59,439
site from a storm water management

3683
03:08:56,720 --> 03:09:01,680
control. We can't have our storm water

3684
03:08:59,439 --> 03:09:04,160
leave the property in a way that hurts

3685
03:09:01,680 --> 03:09:06,880
people downstream. So it will the site

3686
03:09:04,160 --> 03:09:09,040
will be designed um by engineers to

3687
03:09:06,880 --> 03:09:11,439
capture its storm water drainage and

3688
03:09:09,040 --> 03:09:14,080
whatever it is required to do under the

3689
03:09:11,439 --> 03:09:16,720
codes but the grade is from the north to

3690
03:09:14,080 --> 03:09:18,560
the northwest to southeast. Um and

3691
03:09:16,720 --> 03:09:19,840
there's a stream down at the bottom as

3692
03:09:18,560 --> 03:09:21,200
well that's in a stream corridor

3693
03:09:19,840 --> 03:09:24,800
protection zone. M

3694
03:09:21,200 --> 03:09:26,080
» Missed. So, um, we've had a lot of we've

3695
03:09:24,800 --> 03:09:27,680
had several of these cases here recently

3696
03:09:26,080 --> 03:09:29,600
where storm water has been, I think, one

3697
03:09:27,680 --> 03:09:31,439
of the primary concerns we've heard from

3698
03:09:29,600 --> 03:09:33,040
some residents and I think it's somewhat

3699
03:09:31,439 --> 03:09:36,080
of a frustrating answer for for them to

3700
03:09:33,040 --> 03:09:37,439
hear that, oh, that comes later. Um, so,

3701
03:09:36,080 --> 03:09:39,120
you know, for I know we don't have

3702
03:09:37,439 --> 03:09:40,479
someone from the division of or the

3703
03:09:39,120 --> 03:09:42,000
department of water and power here right

3704
03:09:40,479 --> 03:09:43,600
now, but you could just walk us through

3705
03:09:42,000 --> 03:09:45,120
sort of, you know, we have a zoning

3706
03:09:43,600 --> 03:09:46,880
before us here tonight. You're an

3707
03:09:45,120 --> 03:09:48,720
experienced zoning attorney. you just

3708
03:09:46,880 --> 03:09:51,279
talk about sort of what comes next from

3709
03:09:48,720 --> 03:09:53,359
a perspective of dealing with that that

3710
03:09:51,279 --> 03:09:54,880
sort of watershed issue and particularly

3711
03:09:53,359 --> 03:09:57,439
here when talked about the public

3712
03:09:54,880 --> 03:09:59,920
speakers and I met with uh Mr. Levenson

3713
03:09:57,439 --> 03:10:01,439
a couple weeks ago who is a neighbor who

3714
03:09:59,920 --> 03:10:02,880
is very experienced in this area and you

3715
03:10:01,439 --> 03:10:04,800
know his primary concerns were these

3716
03:10:02,880 --> 03:10:07,359
environmental ones regarding u

3717
03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:09,200
potentially you know what are streams

3718
03:10:07,359 --> 03:10:11,200
what are wetlands and this does seem to

3719
03:10:09,200 --> 03:10:13,760
be this is not just some random green

3720
03:10:11,200 --> 03:10:16,000
field you know open space there is a lot

3721
03:10:13,760 --> 03:10:17,520
here um so you could walk us through a

3722
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:19,920
little bit just about you know sort of

3723
03:10:17,520 --> 03:10:21,520
the next steps um you know as you've had

3724
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:22,319
many you know clients go through this

3725
03:10:21,520 --> 03:10:24,560
process before.

3726
03:10:22,319 --> 03:10:26,319
» Sure. Yeah, just like any other site in

3727
03:10:24,560 --> 03:10:28,080
the city of Columbus, um we obviously

3728
03:10:26,319 --> 03:10:29,600
have this property had to be annexed and

3729
03:10:28,080 --> 03:10:31,279
it has to be reszoned and then the next

3730
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:32,800
step after that is the final site

3731
03:10:31,279 --> 03:10:35,040
compliance plan. And generally speaking,

3732
03:10:32,800 --> 03:10:37,359
a lot of clients, this is just general,

3733
03:10:35,040 --> 03:10:39,120
they um kind of do their engineering

3734
03:10:37,359 --> 03:10:42,240
kind of sometimes it's with the the

3735
03:10:39,120 --> 03:10:44,080
resoning or it's after the resoning, but

3736
03:10:42,240 --> 03:10:45,439
it in this case it's like kind of in in

3737
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:47,200
conjunction and then we'll submit those

3738
03:10:45,439 --> 03:10:48,720
plans to final site compliance, which is

3739
03:10:47,200 --> 03:10:51,040
where we get our building permits and

3740
03:10:48,720 --> 03:10:53,439
things like that. So, the site has been

3741
03:10:51,040 --> 03:10:54,800
designed preliminarily with that all of

3742
03:10:53,439 --> 03:10:56,399
those things in mind and with the with

3743
03:10:54,800 --> 03:10:58,640
the requirements of the city of Columbus

3744
03:10:56,399 --> 03:11:01,520
in mind. And we're also working with the

3745
03:10:58,640 --> 03:11:03,920
Ohio or the um Ohio EPA and the Army

3746
03:11:01,520 --> 03:11:05,520
Corps of Engineers um to get all uh

3747
03:11:03,920 --> 03:11:07,040
there's a wetland delineation report

3748
03:11:05,520 --> 03:11:09,520
that's been completed and submitted to

3749
03:11:07,040 --> 03:11:11,840
those entities and we're working through

3750
03:11:09,520 --> 03:11:13,359
um to get the proper permits whatever is

3751
03:11:11,840 --> 03:11:15,680
required to move forward with

3752
03:11:13,359 --> 03:11:17,680
development on this site. Um but we will

3753
03:11:15,680 --> 03:11:18,800
follow all the rules and regulations. Um

3754
03:11:17,680 --> 03:11:20,880
and all of those things will be

3755
03:11:18,800 --> 03:11:23,520
addressed as part of this process. Um

3756
03:11:20,880 --> 03:11:25,439
the reasonzoning while you as to deal

3757
03:11:23,520 --> 03:11:26,479
with the use and and the site plan and

3758
03:11:25,439 --> 03:11:28,479
everything like that, all of these

3759
03:11:26,479 --> 03:11:30,479
things are kind of happening sometimes

3760
03:11:28,479 --> 03:11:31,600
at the same time, sometimes things come

3761
03:11:30,479 --> 03:11:34,240
later and we don't know those

3762
03:11:31,600 --> 03:11:35,520
information. So it it's just a kind of a

3763
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:36,479
dance that we're trying to do. It's part

3764
03:11:35,520 --> 03:11:38,399
of the development.

3765
03:11:36,479 --> 03:11:39,520
» Thank you. Other questions for council

3766
03:11:38,399 --> 03:11:41,520
members for the applicants?

3767
03:11:39,520 --> 03:11:44,240
Representative.

3768
03:11:41,520 --> 03:11:47,520
» I have a question for Ross. So, we're

3769
03:11:44,240 --> 03:11:49,040
talking about the density and the 16.9

3770
03:11:47,520 --> 03:11:51,120
versus the 16, which is what the

3771
03:11:49,040 --> 03:11:52,640
community was asking for. How does that

3772
03:11:51,120 --> 03:11:55,120
equate to actual units? So, you've

3773
03:11:52,640 --> 03:11:59,600
already dropped 312 to 256. If you were

3774
03:11:55,120 --> 03:12:00,880
to drop to a 16 unit per acre density,

3775
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:02,640
how many units does that?

3776
03:12:00,880 --> 03:12:05,920
» Oh man, you're asking me to do math with

3777
03:12:02,640 --> 03:12:07,200
that. I I don't know the answer to that

3778
03:12:05,920 --> 03:12:08,479
off the top of my head. So,

3779
03:12:07,200 --> 03:12:10,000
» I think I think if I'm doing math right,

3780
03:12:08,479 --> 03:12:11,840
it's about 14 or 15

3781
03:12:10,000 --> 03:12:12,880
» Because it's 15 acre site, correct?

3782
03:12:11,840 --> 03:12:14,640
» Yes. Somewhere about there.

3783
03:12:12,880 --> 03:12:14,960
» Yeah. So it's about 14 or 15.

3784
03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:18,160
» Okay.

3785
03:12:14,960 --> 03:12:20,880
» Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just

3786
03:12:18,160 --> 03:12:23,359
» Uh can you answer the question about the

3787
03:12:20,880 --> 03:12:24,960
Well, I'll start with this question. Can

3788
03:12:23,359 --> 03:12:27,439
you answer the question about the bus

3789
03:12:24,960 --> 03:12:29,359
and the agreement? Is there a formal

3790
03:12:27,439 --> 03:12:29,600
agreement? Is what what does that look

3791
03:12:29,359 --> 03:12:31,439
like?

3792
03:12:29,600 --> 03:12:33,040
» Yeah. So our client has spoken um with

3793
03:12:31,439 --> 03:12:34,640
Dr. Miller, who's the superintendent of

3794
03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:36,960
the Licking Heights School District, and

3795
03:12:34,640 --> 03:12:38,399
they are amunable to having the buses

3796
03:12:36,960 --> 03:12:40,800
come into the site. I don't know if we

3797
03:12:38,399 --> 03:12:43,439
have like a formal agreement, but they

3798
03:12:40,800 --> 03:12:45,200
have said that works for them and I

3799
03:12:43,439 --> 03:12:46,800
don't know what if we we don't have any

3800
03:12:45,200 --> 03:12:48,240
like something written in stone that

3801
03:12:46,800 --> 03:12:50,080
says yes, we will drop the kids off

3802
03:12:48,240 --> 03:12:51,359
there. But that that is we have worked

3803
03:12:50,080 --> 03:12:52,880
with them on the routing and the

3804
03:12:51,359 --> 03:12:54,160
different potential pickup points, but

3805
03:12:52,880 --> 03:12:55,200
it has worked for them and they've

3806
03:12:54,160 --> 03:12:57,680
seemed happy with that

3807
03:12:55,200 --> 03:12:59,040
» And that and again the the plan would be

3808
03:12:57,680 --> 03:13:01,200
the clubhouse is where

3809
03:12:59,040 --> 03:13:03,120
» Yes. Yep. So yeah, there could be other

3810
03:13:01,200 --> 03:13:05,040
places if it ends up working out the but

3811
03:13:03,120 --> 03:13:07,279
yes, that's the the main point that we

3812
03:13:05,040 --> 03:13:11,680
would think to pick up. So if I could

3813
03:13:07,279 --> 03:13:14,319
ask our director Messer from just a a

3814
03:13:11,680 --> 03:13:16,399
thinking about let's say we ask the Army

3815
03:13:14,319 --> 03:13:19,040
Corps of Engineers to come in and they

3816
03:13:16,399 --> 03:13:20,880
review it and they're like we cannot do

3817
03:13:19,040 --> 03:13:23,040
this plan for whatever reason for the

3818
03:13:20,880 --> 03:13:27,120
safety reason or something else then

3819
03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:29,200
what what is our recourse? Do we can can

3820
03:13:27,120 --> 03:13:31,920
you just answer that for the residents?

3821
03:13:29,200 --> 03:13:34,239
» Sure I can answer that. Um essentially

3822
03:13:31,920 --> 03:13:36,479
uh while that is a state process and

3823
03:13:34,239 --> 03:13:38,880
isn't our local process, the local

3824
03:13:36,479 --> 03:13:41,600
process is all dependent on those type

3825
03:13:38,880 --> 03:13:43,279
of approvals. So there are very specific

3826
03:13:41,600 --> 03:13:46,640
plans that the applicant would have to

3827
03:13:43,279 --> 03:13:48,880
apply for um a storm water plan that

3828
03:13:46,640 --> 03:13:50,479
would have to comply with not only state

3829
03:13:48,880 --> 03:13:52,319
rules, but before it would ever be

3830
03:13:50,479 --> 03:13:54,640
approved would have to comply with our

3831
03:13:52,319 --> 03:13:56,319
local storm water manual. So

3832
03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:58,800
essentially, it's all connected. I know

3833
03:13:56,319 --> 03:14:00,560
we've talked about se sequential um

3834
03:13:58,800 --> 03:14:02,560
things here, but they're all connected.

3835
03:14:00,560 --> 03:14:04,800
So, you can't get a building permit to

3836
03:14:02,560 --> 03:14:06,560
build anything until you've got your

3837
03:14:04,800 --> 03:14:08,319
storm water and other site plans

3838
03:14:06,560 --> 03:14:10,160
approved. And you can't get those

3839
03:14:08,319 --> 03:14:13,279
approved until you get the state

3840
03:14:10,160 --> 03:14:15,279
approval and none of it gets approved uh

3841
03:14:13,279 --> 03:14:18,720
unless they get the zoning approved. So,

3842
03:14:15,279 --> 03:14:21,359
it's all interconnected um and will be

3843
03:14:18,720 --> 03:14:24,239
reviewed by the appropriate people um as

3844
03:14:21,359 --> 03:14:28,000
has been mentioned. And and then just my

3845
03:14:24,239 --> 03:14:29,520
last question, chair, the developer owns

3846
03:14:28,000 --> 03:14:30,720
that land now, correct?

3847
03:14:29,520 --> 03:14:32,560
» We have not closed on it yet. No.

3848
03:14:30,720 --> 03:14:34,640
» Oh, you have not closed on it. What is

3849
03:14:32,560 --> 03:14:37,200
happening to the land now?

3850
03:14:34,640 --> 03:14:38,800
» There's been some as part of the um uh

3851
03:14:37,200 --> 03:14:40,800
due diligence on the property. There's

3852
03:14:38,800 --> 03:14:41,920
been a wetland mitigation study that's

3853
03:14:40,800 --> 03:14:43,600
been done. So people, we have

3854
03:14:41,920 --> 03:14:45,040
contractors who have gone out there. I I

3855
03:14:43,600 --> 03:14:47,120
don't know spec I don't have specific

3856
03:14:45,040 --> 03:14:48,239
knowledge of a bulldozer, but um but

3857
03:14:47,120 --> 03:14:50,160
there have been people out there who

3858
03:14:48,239 --> 03:14:51,600
have done studies on the land. So that's

3859
03:14:50,160 --> 03:14:52,960
part of our due diligence.

3860
03:14:51,600 --> 03:14:53,840
» Got it. Thank you.

3861
03:14:52,960 --> 03:14:55,120
» COS,

3862
03:14:53,840 --> 03:14:56,560
» There were thoughts that trees had

3863
03:14:55,120 --> 03:14:58,399
already been removed. If there were

3864
03:14:56,560 --> 03:14:59,920
trees removed, that wasn't done by your

3865
03:14:58,399 --> 03:15:02,319
» I don't know. I don't know the answer to

3866
03:14:59,920 --> 03:15:04,640
that.

3867
03:15:02,319 --> 03:15:07,760
» Other council member Green.

3868
03:15:04,640 --> 03:15:11,840
» Um so you are doing 200 you're proposing

3869
03:15:07,760 --> 03:15:14,319
256 units and then of those units um how

3870
03:15:11,840 --> 03:15:16,560
many of them are you committing to uh be

3871
03:15:14,319 --> 03:15:17,040
affordable and what what um income

3872
03:15:16,560 --> 03:15:19,279
levels?

3873
03:15:17,040 --> 03:15:21,600
» Yes. So we are um going to participate

3874
03:15:19,279 --> 03:15:24,080
in the citywide CRA. So 30% of the units

3875
03:15:21,600 --> 03:15:27,840
will be reserved for 80% AMI for 15

3876
03:15:24,080 --> 03:15:30,960
years. So that's 77 of the 256 units.

3877
03:15:27,840 --> 03:15:33,279
» Okay. And so you are that is the that is

3878
03:15:30,960 --> 03:15:35,120
the plan not to take the fe. Correct.

3879
03:15:33,279 --> 03:15:37,840
» Wonderful. And then um just a follow-up

3880
03:15:35,120 --> 03:15:39,520
question for kind of similar uh to what

3881
03:15:37,840 --> 03:15:41,120
council member Brosa Deodia was asking.

3882
03:15:39,520 --> 03:15:43,439
I'm not sure if this is a developer

3883
03:15:41,120 --> 03:15:47,760
question or a department question. Um

3884
03:15:43,439 --> 03:15:49,040
when um Oh, Mr. Jay, I forgot your last

3885
03:15:47,760 --> 03:15:52,160
name, but I do remember your friends

3886
03:15:49,040 --> 03:15:55,040
call you Jay. And so there you go. When

3887
03:15:52,160 --> 03:15:57,680
you were talking about um he was kind of

3888
03:15:55,040 --> 03:15:59,680
talking about wellwater and he and um

3889
03:15:57,680 --> 03:16:01,040
you know potential disruption to the

3890
03:15:59,680 --> 03:16:02,399
wells. And this is something that I've

3891
03:16:01,040 --> 03:16:04,160
been thinking a lot lately just in the

3892
03:16:02,399 --> 03:16:06,080
conversations we're having also around

3893
03:16:04,160 --> 03:16:09,279
data centers and environmental impact

3894
03:16:06,080 --> 03:16:12,640
that caused by those developments and

3895
03:16:09,279 --> 03:16:14,880
how they're you know we have seen

3896
03:16:12,640 --> 03:16:16,960
suddenly people's wellwater coming up

3897
03:16:14,880 --> 03:16:20,080
contaminated. So, like what are the

3898
03:16:16,960 --> 03:16:22,000
legal steps if something like that were

3899
03:16:20,080 --> 03:16:23,520
to happen? Like I'm assuming that there

3900
03:16:22,000 --> 03:16:25,680
would be protections for surrounding

3901
03:16:23,520 --> 03:16:28,239
property owners, you know, if soil

3902
03:16:25,680 --> 03:16:31,120
disruption causes then issues related to

3903
03:16:28,239 --> 03:16:34,120
wellwater or other type of, you know,

3904
03:16:31,120 --> 03:16:34,120
challenges.

3905
03:16:34,239 --> 03:16:37,600
Well, Council Member Green, I I think

3906
03:16:36,000 --> 03:16:40,080
the best way I can answer that is

3907
03:16:37,600 --> 03:16:42,160
obviously all of the approvals and all

3908
03:16:40,080 --> 03:16:43,840
these submissions that are given to our

3909
03:16:42,160 --> 03:16:46,319
department and apartments across the

3910
03:16:43,840 --> 03:16:47,760
city are meant to avoid and and keep

3911
03:16:46,319 --> 03:16:49,439
that from happening and that's why we

3912
03:16:47,760 --> 03:16:51,920
have all the rules and regulations that

3913
03:16:49,439 --> 03:16:53,840
have to be followed. So, uh, in the

3914
03:16:51,920 --> 03:16:56,479
unlikely event that those rules and

3915
03:16:53,840 --> 03:16:58,479
regulations aren't sufficient, then I

3916
03:16:56,479 --> 03:17:01,359
believe, you know, it would be sort of a

3917
03:16:58,479 --> 03:17:04,160
civil issue at that point of damages and

3918
03:17:01,359 --> 03:17:06,479
those type of claims. There are times

3919
03:17:04,160 --> 03:17:08,160
when sewer backups and things happen in

3920
03:17:06,479 --> 03:17:10,640
this city and there are processes to

3921
03:17:08,160 --> 03:17:13,439
deal with those um through the legal

3922
03:17:10,640 --> 03:17:15,920
system.

3923
03:17:13,439 --> 03:17:18,640
» Other questions for the applicant from

3924
03:17:15,920 --> 03:17:20,960
my my colleagues?

3925
03:17:18,640 --> 03:17:23,600
» See none. Thank you. Thank you.

3926
03:17:20,960 --> 03:17:25,439
» Um do want to again thank both our folks

3927
03:17:23,600 --> 03:17:27,359
in the air commission and residents that

3928
03:17:25,439 --> 03:17:29,600
came down. I think as the council

3929
03:17:27,359 --> 03:17:31,120
president mentioned, this is actually I

3930
03:17:29,600 --> 03:17:32,720
sense the deep disappointment from the

3931
03:17:31,120 --> 03:17:34,560
folks in the air commission. However,

3932
03:17:32,720 --> 03:17:36,479
when we talk about there being three,

3933
03:17:34,560 --> 03:17:38,080
you know, main points and two of them

3934
03:17:36,479 --> 03:17:40,800
from my vantage point, I think are

3935
03:17:38,080 --> 03:17:41,680
resolved. One is pretty close. Um, when

3936
03:17:40,800 --> 03:17:45,760
we're talking about the difference

3937
03:17:41,680 --> 03:17:47,600
between 16 and 16.9, um, I I think that

3938
03:17:45,760 --> 03:17:48,560
is certainly not the same number, but

3939
03:17:47,600 --> 03:17:51,439
we're talking about the difference

3940
03:17:48,560 --> 03:17:52,800
between 13 or 14 or 15 units. We're not

3941
03:17:51,439 --> 03:17:54,880
terribly far off with the

3942
03:17:52,800 --> 03:17:56,880
acknowledgement of that 16, you know,

3943
03:17:54,880 --> 03:17:59,040
unit per acre number is being set at

3944
03:17:56,880 --> 03:18:01,520
prior developments within area. Um, that

3945
03:17:59,040 --> 03:18:03,120
is certainly built before Columbus

3946
03:18:01,520 --> 03:18:05,760
potentially was as growing as quickly as

3947
03:18:03,120 --> 03:18:07,600
we are today. So to say that, you know,

3948
03:18:05,760 --> 03:18:10,239
this is anything more than trying to see

3949
03:18:07,600 --> 03:18:12,399
compromise take place between

3950
03:18:10,239 --> 03:18:14,000
applicants, our area commissions, I

3951
03:18:12,399 --> 03:18:15,760
think to council president's point, this

3952
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:19,439
is talking about shaping that process

3953
03:18:15,760 --> 03:18:21,120
and shaping certainly a project. Um I

3954
03:18:19,439 --> 03:18:22,960
think that is certainly something that

3955
03:18:21,120 --> 03:18:25,600
we expect and certainly I think is alive

3956
03:18:22,960 --> 03:18:27,680
and well and sort of part of the this

3957
03:18:25,600 --> 03:18:29,600
system that we have in place. You know,

3958
03:18:27,680 --> 03:18:32,080
this proposal received a approval from

3959
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:33,760
the development commission 50. Uh we're

3960
03:18:32,080 --> 03:18:35,840
seeing traffic improvements uh

3961
03:18:33,760 --> 03:18:38,080
particularly being made here. Uh the

3962
03:18:35,840 --> 03:18:39,680
amount of housing that is particularly

3963
03:18:38,080 --> 03:18:41,600
needed within this area that is

3964
03:18:39,680 --> 03:18:43,600
primarily does not have many rental

3965
03:18:41,600 --> 03:18:45,760
opportunities that currently are there.

3966
03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:48,399
Um you know and I think at the end of

3967
03:18:45,760 --> 03:18:49,439
the day when we're talking about um all

3968
03:18:48,399 --> 03:18:51,760
of the things that we've had on the

3969
03:18:49,439 --> 03:18:53,680
table I think with our prior speakers

3970
03:18:51,760 --> 03:18:54,960
you know it's I know can ring ring

3971
03:18:53,680 --> 03:18:56,160
somewhat hollow but so many of those

3972
03:18:54,960 --> 03:18:57,680
things are handled through that storm

3973
03:18:56,160 --> 03:19:00,479
water mitigation that's handled outside

3974
03:18:57,680 --> 03:19:02,960
the council process. um that again if

3975
03:19:00,479 --> 03:19:04,399
they can't comply with those development

3976
03:19:02,960 --> 03:19:06,399
standards then they can't get their

3977
03:19:04,399 --> 03:19:07,920
permits and they can't get built. Um

3978
03:19:06,399 --> 03:19:10,319
that should not be necessarily a barrier

3979
03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:11,760
to the zoning itself. Um which is why

3980
03:19:10,319 --> 03:19:13,359
I'm in support of this piece of

3981
03:19:11,760 --> 03:19:16,560
legislation and I move for passage by

3982
03:19:13,359 --> 03:19:18,080
voice vote.

3983
03:19:16,560 --> 03:19:18,800
» Please call the role by voice.

3984
03:19:18,080 --> 03:19:19,520
» Bangston.

3985
03:19:18,800 --> 03:19:21,040
» Yes.

3986
03:19:19,520 --> 03:19:24,319
» Barbosa de Padilla.

3987
03:19:21,040 --> 03:19:26,960
» I just want to echo to especially to our

3988
03:19:24,319 --> 03:19:29,439
far east commissioners who I work with.

3989
03:19:26,960 --> 03:19:31,520
I am a fellow eastsider and I certainly

3990
03:19:29,439 --> 03:19:35,040
live in an area that is very unique that

3991
03:19:31,520 --> 03:19:37,359
is, you know, a mix of apartments and a

3992
03:19:35,040 --> 03:19:39,040
mix of homes and that's certainly the

3993
03:19:37,359 --> 03:19:41,840
neighborhood that I grew up in and I

3994
03:19:39,040 --> 03:19:43,439
think that in this particular project I

3995
03:19:41,840 --> 03:19:45,680
do believe that the community and the

3996
03:19:43,439 --> 03:19:48,479
commission made this project better

3997
03:19:45,680 --> 03:19:51,279
which is what was a deciding factor for

3998
03:19:48,479 --> 03:19:53,040
me. it would have not been. And I don't

3999
03:19:51,279 --> 03:19:55,840
this is these are not decisions. I don't

4000
03:19:53,040 --> 03:19:57,600
always come here I don't ever come here

4001
03:19:55,840 --> 03:19:59,840
with my mind made up. I want to hear

4002
03:19:57,600 --> 03:20:02,000
what people have to say. I want to hear

4003
03:19:59,840 --> 03:20:03,840
what things make sense. You all have

4004
03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:06,000
seen that I have voted no on things that

4005
03:20:03,840 --> 03:20:08,640
don't make sense. And in this particular

4006
03:20:06,000 --> 03:20:11,439
area, I think that you, like I said,

4007
03:20:08,640 --> 03:20:13,520
have made this project better. And I

4008
03:20:11,439 --> 03:20:16,000
think as it goes through the process, we

4009
03:20:13,520 --> 03:20:18,800
will find out if it is yet to be seen if

4010
03:20:16,000 --> 03:20:21,200
there are things that are not going to

4011
03:20:18,800 --> 03:20:23,200
be suitable for the community. So that's

4012
03:20:21,200 --> 03:20:25,680
why I'm a yes vote today. But I want to

4013
03:20:23,200 --> 03:20:27,600
ensure that folks know that these

4014
03:20:25,680 --> 03:20:29,120
conversations are incredibly important

4015
03:20:27,600 --> 03:20:30,640
and hearing from the community and

4016
03:20:29,120 --> 03:20:32,560
hearing from the commission, especially

4017
03:20:30,640 --> 03:20:34,560
the Far East Commission who is part of

4018
03:20:32,560 --> 03:20:36,640
the MAC. You have helped to develop and

4019
03:20:34,560 --> 03:20:38,800
shape the east side. And so you should

4020
03:20:36,640 --> 03:20:40,000
know that and know that there are going

4021
03:20:38,800 --> 03:20:42,000
to be disappointments and we're not

4022
03:20:40,000 --> 03:20:44,560
always going to see eye to eye, but you

4023
03:20:42,000 --> 03:20:47,920
consistently make the city better

4024
03:20:44,560 --> 03:20:49,840
because you push on people to meet the

4025
03:20:47,920 --> 03:20:52,800
requirements that neighbors want and

4026
03:20:49,840 --> 03:20:54,960
that you all want. And this is also a

4027
03:20:52,800 --> 03:20:57,040
interesting one because it's annexed.

4028
03:20:54,960 --> 03:20:58,399
And I think that this goes back to the

4029
03:20:57,040 --> 03:21:00,640
original conversation that we were

4030
03:20:58,399 --> 03:21:02,960
having before. This is a piece of

4031
03:21:00,640 --> 03:21:05,439
Columbus that is also part of a piece of

4032
03:21:02,960 --> 03:21:07,760
lots of different other areas. And so it

4033
03:21:05,439 --> 03:21:10,160
makes it somewhat challenging, I will

4034
03:21:07,760 --> 03:21:12,160
say, for myself to make these decisions

4035
03:21:10,160 --> 03:21:13,520
when, you know, we're talking about some

4036
03:21:12,160 --> 03:21:14,720
of our constituents and we're talking

4037
03:21:13,520 --> 03:21:17,040
about folks who are not all our

4038
03:21:14,720 --> 03:21:20,399
constituents. But when I think about

4039
03:21:17,040 --> 03:21:22,640
where, again, having mixed neighborhoods

4040
03:21:20,399 --> 03:21:24,000
that allow people a choice on where to

4041
03:21:22,640 --> 03:21:26,960
live because everyone is not going to be

4042
03:21:24,000 --> 03:21:28,960
able to afford a house, that is what

4043
03:21:26,960 --> 03:21:32,920
helps to drive my decision-m, which is

4044
03:21:28,960 --> 03:21:32,920
why I'm a yes vote today.

4045
03:21:32,960 --> 03:21:35,920
» Deakau Yes,

4046
03:21:35,120 --> 03:21:36,800
» Dorren.

4047
03:21:35,920 --> 03:21:37,600
» Yes,

4048
03:21:36,800 --> 03:21:38,319
» Green.

4049
03:21:37,600 --> 03:21:39,040
» Yes,

4050
03:21:38,319 --> 03:21:39,760
» Remy.

4051
03:21:39,040 --> 03:21:40,479
» Yes,

4052
03:21:39,760 --> 03:21:41,279
» Ross.

4053
03:21:40,479 --> 03:21:41,920
» Yes,

4054
03:21:41,279 --> 03:21:42,560
» White.

4055
03:21:41,920 --> 03:21:43,760
» Yes,

4056
03:21:42,560 --> 03:21:45,520
» President Harden.

4057
03:21:43,760 --> 03:21:46,720
» Yes.

4058
03:21:45,520 --> 03:21:48,960
» Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

4059
03:21:46,720 --> 03:21:52,000
number 1284-2026

4060
03:21:48,960 --> 03:21:53,760
to reszone 1695 Dwey Avenue being 2.29

4061
03:21:52,000 --> 03:21:55,520
29 plus acres located in the south side

4062
03:21:53,760 --> 03:21:57,840
of Dwey Avenue at the southern terminus

4063
03:21:55,520 --> 03:22:00,160
of Key West Avenue from M manufacturing

4064
03:21:57,840 --> 03:22:02,239
district to R1 rural I'm sorry

4065
03:22:00,160 --> 03:22:04,160
residential district to LM limited

4066
03:22:02,239 --> 03:22:06,239
manufacturing district. This site

4067
03:22:04,160 --> 03:22:08,239
consists of one undeveloped parcel

4068
03:22:06,239 --> 03:22:10,960
splitzoned in the M manufacturing

4069
03:22:08,239 --> 03:22:12,560
district and R1 residential district.

4070
03:22:10,960 --> 03:22:14,080
The requested reszoning will allow the

4071
03:22:12,560 --> 03:22:16,399
site to be redeveloped with a limited

4072
03:22:14,080 --> 03:22:18,640
office uses and less objectional

4073
03:22:16,399 --> 03:22:20,319
manufacturing uses. proposals approval

4074
03:22:18,640 --> 03:22:22,160
from city staff and the development

4075
03:22:20,319 --> 03:22:23,920
commission but a disapproval from the

4076
03:22:22,160 --> 03:22:25,359
north central area commission. Due that

4077
03:22:23,920 --> 03:22:27,359
disapproval we'll now hear a staff

4078
03:22:25,359 --> 03:22:29,200
report from city staff starting with

4079
03:22:27,359 --> 03:22:31,439
Miss Lissa Saltzman from Department of

4080
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:32,640
Building Zoning Services or actually

4081
03:22:31,439 --> 03:22:33,760
pardon me it will actually be Tim

4082
03:22:32,640 --> 03:22:35,040
Dietrich from the Department of Building

4083
03:22:33,760 --> 03:22:36,960
Zoning Services. Thank you.

4084
03:22:35,040 --> 03:22:39,439
» Thank you Chair Dorren President Hart

4085
03:22:36,960 --> 03:22:40,960
members of council. Uh the requested LM

4086
03:22:39,439 --> 03:22:42,640
limited manufacturing district will

4087
03:22:40,960 --> 03:22:44,640
allow the site to be developed with

4088
03:22:42,640 --> 03:22:47,279
limited office and less objectionable

4089
03:22:44,640 --> 03:22:49,600
manufacturing uses as allowed with the

4090
03:22:47,279 --> 03:22:51,040
submitted limitation text. North and

4091
03:22:49,600 --> 03:22:52,960
west of the site are single-unit

4092
03:22:51,040 --> 03:22:55,200
dwellings and undeveloped parcels in the

4093
03:22:52,960 --> 03:22:57,760
R3 residential district. East of the

4094
03:22:55,200 --> 03:22:59,760
site is an undeveloped portion of a

4095
03:22:57,760 --> 03:23:01,680
parcel in the M district and the R1

4096
03:22:59,760 --> 03:23:04,479
residential district. And south of the

4097
03:23:01,680 --> 03:23:06,880
site is a recycling center in the M

4098
03:23:04,479 --> 03:23:09,439
manufacturing district. The limitation

4099
03:23:06,880 --> 03:23:11,920
text establishes use restrictions,

4100
03:23:09,439 --> 03:23:13,680
limited limits the site to office uses

4101
03:23:11,920 --> 03:23:15,439
and limited less objectionable

4102
03:23:13,680 --> 03:23:16,640
manufacturing uses and include

4103
03:23:15,439 --> 03:23:18,640
supplemental development standards

4104
03:23:16,640 --> 03:23:20,880
addressing building and parking

4105
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:23,279
setbacks, site access, landscaping and

4106
03:23:20,880 --> 03:23:24,960
screening and graphics with the

4107
03:23:23,279 --> 03:23:26,880
limitation text including appropriate

4108
03:23:24,960 --> 03:23:28,880
use restrictions and commitment and

4109
03:23:26,880 --> 03:23:30,319
commitments to increase landscaping and

4110
03:23:28,880 --> 03:23:32,080
screening from adjacent residential

4111
03:23:30,319 --> 03:23:34,640
properties. Staff's recommendation is

4112
03:23:32,080 --> 03:23:36,560
for approval.

4113
03:23:34,640 --> 03:23:39,359
» Thank you. Uh any questions my council

4114
03:23:36,560 --> 03:23:43,359
colleagues sir or Mr. Dietrich? Seeing

4115
03:23:39,359 --> 03:23:47,319
none uh we will move to uh Mr. Lewis

4116
03:23:43,359 --> 03:23:47,319
Taba from the division of planning.

4117
03:23:50,399 --> 03:23:54,160
Uh thank you Chair Dorren, President

4118
03:23:52,160 --> 03:23:55,920
Harden and members of council. Uh

4119
03:23:54,160 --> 03:23:58,319
planning is supportive of the requested

4120
03:23:55,920 --> 03:23:59,920
resoning. Staff notes the proposed use

4121
03:23:58,319 --> 03:24:02,160
is consistent with the Columbus grow

4122
03:23:59,920 --> 03:24:05,279
strategy, land use recommendation of

4123
03:24:02,160 --> 03:24:07,040
industrial and warehouse at the site.

4124
03:24:05,279 --> 03:24:08,479
Staff recognized that the commitments to

4125
03:24:07,040 --> 03:24:10,640
landscaping and screening and the

4126
03:24:08,479 --> 03:24:12,560
updated limitation text are consistent

4127
03:24:10,640 --> 03:24:14,960
with Columbus growth strategy design

4128
03:24:12,560 --> 03:24:17,520
guidelines. Therefore, planning is

4129
03:24:14,960 --> 03:24:19,120
supportive of the request. Staff also

4130
03:24:17,520 --> 03:24:22,080
notes that the land use recommendation

4131
03:24:19,120 --> 03:24:24,239
was updated uh under the recent passage

4132
03:24:22,080 --> 03:24:27,439
of the Columbus Growth Strategy on

4133
03:24:24,239 --> 03:24:29,600
February 25th, 2026. it took effect. Uh

4134
03:24:27,439 --> 03:24:31,279
we note that corresponding zoning as

4135
03:24:29,600 --> 03:24:32,720
part of zone in economic and housing

4136
03:24:31,279 --> 03:24:34,319
opportunity is still under

4137
03:24:32,720 --> 03:24:36,399
consideration.

4138
03:24:34,319 --> 03:24:38,800
» Thank you, Mr. Tick. Um so I mentioned

4139
03:24:36,399 --> 03:24:40,479
in my comments that this the parcel that

4140
03:24:38,800 --> 03:24:42,319
we're talking about reszoning here

4141
03:24:40,479 --> 03:24:43,600
tonight is splitz zoned. Can you explain

4142
03:24:42,319 --> 03:24:46,080
a little bit about what that exactly

4143
03:24:43,600 --> 03:24:48,239
means and how that sort of interplays? A

4144
03:24:46,080 --> 03:24:49,920
portion of that is zoned currently

4145
03:24:48,239 --> 03:24:51,840
residential and a portion of it is

4146
03:24:49,920 --> 03:24:53,920
currently zoned as manufacturing and

4147
03:24:51,840 --> 03:24:55,840
sort of the acceptable uses currently

4148
03:24:53,920 --> 03:24:57,200
that could be done under those zoning

4149
03:24:55,840 --> 03:24:58,560
districts. And Mr. T, I don't know if

4150
03:24:57,200 --> 03:25:00,560
that's a better question for Mr.

4151
03:24:58,560 --> 03:25:02,319
Dietrich who's I believe nodding at me

4152
03:25:00,560 --> 03:25:03,359
is a better question for him. So I'll

4153
03:25:02,319 --> 03:25:06,080
throw that to you Tim.

4154
03:25:03,359 --> 03:25:09,200
» Yes. So um it is splitzoned M

4155
03:25:06,080 --> 03:25:11,439
manufacturing and R1 residential. R1 is

4156
03:25:09,200 --> 03:25:14,720
a very restricted district. It allows a

4157
03:25:11,439 --> 03:25:16,720
single unit dwelling. M allows basically

4158
03:25:14,720 --> 03:25:20,000
everything under commercial and

4159
03:25:16,720 --> 03:25:22,640
manufacturing properties. So, uh this

4160
03:25:20,000 --> 03:25:24,319
would actually be a this requested LM is

4161
03:25:22,640 --> 03:25:27,359
much more restrictive in the uses

4162
03:25:24,319 --> 03:25:29,680
allowed for that portion of the site.

4163
03:25:27,359 --> 03:25:31,600
» Thank you. Any questions my council

4164
03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:33,520
colleagues?

4165
03:25:31,600 --> 03:25:34,800
Seeing none, uh we will turn to Mr. Dan

4166
03:25:33,520 --> 03:25:36,080
Blushman from the Division Traffic

4167
03:25:34,800 --> 03:25:37,520
Management.

4168
03:25:36,080 --> 03:25:40,000
» Thank you, Chair Dorren, President

4169
03:25:37,520 --> 03:25:41,760
Harden, members of council. In regards

4170
03:25:40,000 --> 03:25:44,399
to our review of this application,

4171
03:25:41,760 --> 03:25:46,880
please be advised that with regards to

4172
03:25:44,399 --> 03:25:49,200
the size of the site and the specific

4173
03:25:46,880 --> 03:25:51,680
limitations of uses that are present

4174
03:25:49,200 --> 03:25:54,080
within the proposed limitation text of

4175
03:25:51,680 --> 03:25:55,760
this ordinance, there are no specific

4176
03:25:54,080 --> 03:25:58,319
concerns with the proposed traffic

4177
03:25:55,760 --> 03:26:00,720
volumes anticipated to be generated by

4178
03:25:58,319 --> 03:26:03,040
this proposed development site. This

4179
03:26:00,720 --> 03:26:04,880
proposed development site will be

4180
03:26:03,040 --> 03:26:06,880
required to be limited to one access

4181
03:26:04,880 --> 03:26:08,800
point to Dwey Avenue that would be

4182
03:26:06,880 --> 03:26:11,680
anticipated to be in line with the

4183
03:26:08,800 --> 03:26:13,040
intersection of Key West Avenue. With

4184
03:26:11,680 --> 03:26:14,640
these comments noted, the Department of

4185
03:26:13,040 --> 03:26:16,560
Public Service has no further concerns

4186
03:26:14,640 --> 03:26:18,720
regarding this application. I'd be happy

4187
03:26:16,560 --> 03:26:21,040
to answer any questions.

4188
03:26:18,720 --> 03:26:23,279
» Any questions for Mr. Bushman?

4189
03:26:21,040 --> 03:26:24,720
Seeing none, I'll invite the applicants

4190
03:26:23,279 --> 03:26:27,720
uh and Representative Ford for

4191
03:26:24,720 --> 03:26:27,720
presentation.

4192
03:26:35,279 --> 03:26:40,640
Hello. Uh my name is uh Joe Clay uh with

4193
03:26:37,680 --> 03:26:41,920
plan for land um chair president and uh

4194
03:26:40,640 --> 03:26:43,680
members of council. We appreciate your

4195
03:26:41,920 --> 03:26:45,760
time this evening. Um also like to have

4196
03:26:43,680 --> 03:26:47,439
my uh my client and our applicant uh

4197
03:26:45,760 --> 03:26:50,880
introduce himself as well.

4198
03:26:47,439 --> 03:26:52,960
» Hi everyone. My name is Ali Beah.

4199
03:26:50,880 --> 03:26:55,120
» So I I know we had shared a PowerPoint.

4200
03:26:52,960 --> 03:26:56,319
Uh I believe you can see uh we uh wanted

4201
03:26:55,120 --> 03:26:59,040
to kind of just walk through the

4202
03:26:56,319 --> 03:27:00,160
application. Uh this site is uh staff's

4203
03:26:59,040 --> 03:27:02,000
been great to work with. The

4204
03:27:00,160 --> 03:27:04,160
neighborhood's uh been very uh very

4205
03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:06,080
understanding in our application. Um we

4206
03:27:04,160 --> 03:27:08,160
would like to talk through some of the

4207
03:27:06,080 --> 03:27:10,399
noted concerns uh the neighborhood had

4208
03:27:08,160 --> 03:27:11,840
in relationship to the use. Uh but we'd

4209
03:27:10,399 --> 03:27:13,439
also like to kind of talk through why we

4210
03:27:11,840 --> 03:27:16,000
think this uh this use was originally

4211
03:27:13,439 --> 03:27:17,920
discussed uh in the nature it is. So uh

4212
03:27:16,000 --> 03:27:20,319
this site uh is across the road from

4213
03:27:17,920 --> 03:27:22,800
residential. Uh, one of the benefits we

4214
03:27:20,319 --> 03:27:24,960
have with this more less impactful uh,

4215
03:27:22,800 --> 03:27:26,640
low impact use of office warehouse is

4216
03:27:24,960 --> 03:27:28,239
that we can set the use further back off

4217
03:27:26,640 --> 03:27:30,160
the road and it can blend in more with

4218
03:27:28,239 --> 03:27:31,520
the neighborhood. Um, one of the things

4219
03:27:30,160 --> 03:27:34,479
I want to note before we go to the next

4220
03:27:31,520 --> 03:27:36,960
slide is this uh, this back uh, area

4221
03:27:34,479 --> 03:27:38,800
that's Rumy's recycling facility. Uh,

4222
03:27:36,960 --> 03:27:40,640
it's not sense of scale there. It's much

4223
03:27:38,800 --> 03:27:41,920
larger facility. Um, but that's just

4224
03:27:40,640 --> 03:27:43,760
from the aerial photograph kind of

4225
03:27:41,920 --> 03:27:45,760
showing the proximity to the footprint

4226
03:27:43,760 --> 03:27:48,239
uh, of their facility uh, to this

4227
03:27:45,760 --> 03:27:51,279
planned use. talk through the next

4228
03:27:48,239 --> 03:27:54,239
slide. Uh so the uh do Oh, that's where

4229
03:27:51,279 --> 03:27:55,200
the I advance. Okay, got it. So, um I

4230
03:27:54,239 --> 03:27:57,200
want to talk a little bit about the

4231
03:27:55,200 --> 03:27:58,640
heavy manufacturing in the back. Um my

4232
03:27:57,200 --> 03:28:00,800
client's got an interest in building on

4233
03:27:58,640 --> 03:28:03,359
the site uh what would be considered

4234
03:28:00,800 --> 03:28:06,640
office warehouse type use. Uh we'd like

4235
03:28:03,359 --> 03:28:08,080
to uh make uh use of the entire property

4236
03:28:06,640 --> 03:28:10,000
uh while preserving that greenway

4237
03:28:08,080 --> 03:28:12,319
corridor in the front. So, the low

4238
03:28:10,000 --> 03:28:14,239
impact flex use uh seemed to fit the

4239
03:28:12,319 --> 03:28:15,680
site a lot better and answer questions

4240
03:28:14,239 --> 03:28:17,920
about what would be built in front of

4241
03:28:15,680 --> 03:28:19,600
this. Uh tucking that type of use behind

4242
03:28:17,920 --> 03:28:21,600
a single family residence there didn't

4243
03:28:19,600 --> 03:28:24,080
seem to be too fitting for the uh for

4244
03:28:21,600 --> 03:28:26,160
the overall access. Um the only access

4245
03:28:24,080 --> 03:28:28,080
to this property is off of uh Dwey

4246
03:28:26,160 --> 03:28:30,720
Avenue.

4247
03:28:28,080 --> 03:28:32,720
The uh proposal has two buildings in it,

4248
03:28:30,720 --> 03:28:33,600
single story, and we try to propose

4249
03:28:32,720 --> 03:28:35,680
something that would fit the

4250
03:28:33,600 --> 03:28:38,000
characteristics of the neighborhood. Uh

4251
03:28:35,680 --> 03:28:40,399
ample setback. Um we're proposing a 50-

4252
03:28:38,000 --> 03:28:42,960
foot set back off of uh the uh Dewey

4253
03:28:40,399 --> 03:28:45,439
Avenue uh rightway. Uh part of that

4254
03:28:42,960 --> 03:28:48,399
would be mound and shrubs. Uh and then

4255
03:28:45,439 --> 03:28:50,720
the uh there's a uh screening uh

4256
03:28:48,399 --> 03:28:53,040
proposed fence that's on the west side.

4257
03:28:50,720 --> 03:28:55,520
Uh the retention basins on the on the

4258
03:28:53,040 --> 03:28:57,439
east side. Uh that would uh be required

4259
03:28:55,520 --> 03:28:59,439
to handle storm water on site, but also

4260
03:28:57,439 --> 03:29:00,720
be an aesthetic uh that would provide a

4261
03:28:59,439 --> 03:29:02,399
little bit more open space for this

4262
03:29:00,720 --> 03:29:04,479
property.

4263
03:29:02,399 --> 03:29:07,279
Uh the traditional office warehouse is

4264
03:29:04,479 --> 03:29:09,439
is a flex use. Uh so the way that the

4265
03:29:07,279 --> 03:29:11,680
manufacturing we try to indicate here

4266
03:29:09,439 --> 03:29:13,840
it's heavy heavy industry manufacturing

4267
03:29:11,680 --> 03:29:15,200
uses process and assemblies that would

4268
03:29:13,840 --> 03:29:17,600
definitely be offensive to the

4269
03:29:15,200 --> 03:29:20,000
neighborhood. Uh we'd like to propose uh

4270
03:29:17,600 --> 03:29:22,160
this flex use and we worked with staff

4271
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:23,920
uh through the neighborhood uh as well

4272
03:29:22,160 --> 03:29:26,960
try to identify uses that we feel like

4273
03:29:23,920 --> 03:29:28,960
would be most appropriate for this site

4274
03:29:26,960 --> 03:29:31,359
and uh as a result of that we feel like

4275
03:29:28,960 --> 03:29:34,000
it's a very low intensity use across the

4276
03:29:31,359 --> 03:29:36,399
spectrum. Um, as well the uh there'd be

4277
03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:37,520
no outside storage. Uh, so that would be

4278
03:29:36,399 --> 03:29:39,760
different from what you'd see in the

4279
03:29:37,520 --> 03:29:41,760
manufacturing district and uh it would

4280
03:29:39,760 --> 03:29:43,359
allow us to preserve ample amount of

4281
03:29:41,760 --> 03:29:45,840
green space around the boundary of the

4282
03:29:43,359 --> 03:29:47,600
property. Um, within the limited text,

4283
03:29:45,840 --> 03:29:49,680
we're recommending binding landscaping

4284
03:29:47,600 --> 03:29:54,000
commitments as well as binding setbacks

4285
03:29:49,680 --> 03:29:56,960
and uh heavy use limitations.

4286
03:29:54,000 --> 03:29:58,479
Uh so we we looked at Columbus zone in

4287
03:29:56,960 --> 03:30:00,080
and we realized that was uh acknowledged

4288
03:29:58,479 --> 03:30:01,680
and that in the future this property

4289
03:30:00,080 --> 03:30:03,600
will be reszoned as part of the the

4290
03:30:01,680 --> 03:30:06,000
Columbus zone in. Uh we feel that this

4291
03:30:03,600 --> 03:30:07,680
modernizes the lot split and it's a

4292
03:30:06,000 --> 03:30:10,960
thoughtful reinvestment in the property

4293
03:30:07,680 --> 03:30:12,880
as it sits today. Uh these types of uses

4294
03:30:10,960 --> 03:30:14,800
are small businesses. This isn't large

4295
03:30:12,880 --> 03:30:16,880
industry. Uh this is something that

4296
03:30:14,800 --> 03:30:19,359
would uh would definitely help provide

4297
03:30:16,880 --> 03:30:20,880
uh jobs for the local neighborhood. And

4298
03:30:19,359 --> 03:30:22,479
while there may be some opposition from

4299
03:30:20,880 --> 03:30:24,239
the neighborhood today for this type of

4300
03:30:22,479 --> 03:30:26,000
use, uh we realize that a lot of these

4301
03:30:24,239 --> 03:30:27,920
are actually run by local people in the

4302
03:30:26,000 --> 03:30:29,439
neighborhood. So, uh it's not something

4303
03:30:27,920 --> 03:30:31,200
that people are driving in from out of

4304
03:30:29,439 --> 03:30:33,040
town to typically run these type of

4305
03:30:31,200 --> 03:30:34,800
outfits. And a lot of times they're out

4306
03:30:33,040 --> 03:30:36,160
of sight, out of mind after build. Um

4307
03:30:34,800 --> 03:30:38,720
this isn't a retail type of

4308
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:40,399
establishment. This isn't something that

4309
03:30:38,720 --> 03:30:42,399
uh you're going to be trying to drive

4310
03:30:40,399 --> 03:30:44,000
high traffic toward. Uh these type of

4311
03:30:42,399 --> 03:30:46,239
uses tend to work really good as

4312
03:30:44,000 --> 03:30:48,800
transitional uses between residential

4313
03:30:46,239 --> 03:30:50,479
and manufacturing districts. So, uh,

4314
03:30:48,800 --> 03:30:52,640
that's what we're recommending here. Um,

4315
03:30:50,479 --> 03:30:54,160
we've, uh, take a look through zone in,

4316
03:30:52,640 --> 03:30:56,000
and we feel like we're in keeping with

4317
03:30:54,160 --> 03:30:58,560
the proposed spirit of what's gone

4318
03:30:56,000 --> 03:31:01,680
through, uh, with that planning effort

4319
03:30:58,560 --> 03:31:03,439
and proposed code amendments.

4320
03:31:01,680 --> 03:31:04,880
Uh, there is building screening. This

4321
03:31:03,439 --> 03:31:06,399
maybe, uh, highlights a little bit more

4322
03:31:04,880 --> 03:31:08,160
the, uh, the earth and mound at the

4323
03:31:06,399 --> 03:31:11,120
frontage. Um, we had some questions

4324
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:12,880
about access. Um, single access allows

4325
03:31:11,120 --> 03:31:14,960
more landscaping across the frontage,

4326
03:31:12,880 --> 03:31:17,520
allows for controlled uh, access to the

4327
03:31:14,960 --> 03:31:19,920
property. Um this will not be attracting

4328
03:31:17,520 --> 03:31:21,359
uh heavy truck traffic. Uh so the idea

4329
03:31:19,920 --> 03:31:22,880
of turn radiuses and those type of

4330
03:31:21,359 --> 03:31:24,960
things for this type of use is very

4331
03:31:22,880 --> 03:31:27,279
minimal. Uh at most it would be a small

4332
03:31:24,960 --> 03:31:29,200
box truck uh typically per use like once

4333
03:31:27,279 --> 03:31:31,359
a week uh that would come in and deliver

4334
03:31:29,200 --> 03:31:33,760
supplies that would then be uh taken out

4335
03:31:31,359 --> 03:31:35,600
by depending on the use of individual

4336
03:31:33,760 --> 03:31:37,200
users. Um and I'm sure you guys are

4337
03:31:35,600 --> 03:31:39,120
familiar with office warehouse. won't go

4338
03:31:37,200 --> 03:31:40,560
into too much there, but um we did try

4339
03:31:39,120 --> 03:31:42,000
to take into consideration even the

4340
03:31:40,560 --> 03:31:43,520
dumpster enclosure and items that would

4341
03:31:42,000 --> 03:31:45,600
be pushed to the back of the site and

4342
03:31:43,520 --> 03:31:47,439
the proposed design.

4343
03:31:45,600 --> 03:31:50,080
Um I realize you're recommending a

4344
03:31:47,439 --> 03:31:51,760
reszoning uh for a uh district with

4345
03:31:50,080 --> 03:31:53,359
limitation text, but we are providing

4346
03:31:51,760 --> 03:31:55,359
you a rendering of what's what's been

4347
03:31:53,359 --> 03:31:56,800
proposed just so you have an idea of uh

4348
03:31:55,359 --> 03:31:59,040
the character that they'd like to build

4349
03:31:56,800 --> 03:32:01,439
on the site. Uh we feel like it'll serve

4350
03:31:59,040 --> 03:32:04,319
the local community uh low impact and

4351
03:32:01,439 --> 03:32:06,319
will create local jobs. Um Olly can uh

4352
03:32:04,319 --> 03:32:08,239
offer any uh answers to questions you

4353
03:32:06,319 --> 03:32:10,000
might have as well. Um since he's he's

4354
03:32:08,239 --> 03:32:12,080
uh more intimate into the the business

4355
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:13,279
side of it. Um but as a site planner, I

4356
03:32:12,080 --> 03:32:15,840
wanted to give you a little overview of

4357
03:32:13,279 --> 03:32:17,840
what we had planned there. Um so the

4358
03:32:15,840 --> 03:32:19,600
reasonzoning uh one of the things that

4359
03:32:17,840 --> 03:32:22,000
we would like to say why we deserve the

4360
03:32:19,600 --> 03:32:24,399
support be it's a less intense use and

4361
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:26,560
what the zoning already allows. Um it

4362
03:32:24,399 --> 03:32:28,239
advances the uh the zone in goals that

4363
03:32:26,560 --> 03:32:29,840
were already set out for the community

4364
03:32:28,239 --> 03:32:31,680
and we realize that might bring change

4365
03:32:29,840 --> 03:32:33,520
in the future. this will blend in well

4366
03:32:31,680 --> 03:32:36,960
with with what's being proposed in the

4367
03:32:33,520 --> 03:32:38,640
area. Uh and then uh it's real committed

4368
03:32:36,960 --> 03:32:40,880
um protections for the uh for the

4369
03:32:38,640 --> 03:32:43,520
neighbors as well. We're making specific

4370
03:32:40,880 --> 03:32:45,200
investment um uh commitments uh within

4371
03:32:43,520 --> 03:32:47,600
the text uh to make sure that those are

4372
03:32:45,200 --> 03:32:49,439
upheld through the development process.

4373
03:32:47,600 --> 03:32:51,120
Um, my client's been flexible in trying

4374
03:32:49,439 --> 03:32:53,200
to understand what other type of

4375
03:32:51,120 --> 03:32:54,960
commitments would be uh requested and I

4376
03:32:53,200 --> 03:32:56,640
believe we worked with staff uh to try

4377
03:32:54,960 --> 03:32:58,479
to understand exactly what their uh

4378
03:32:56,640 --> 03:33:00,319
their concerns were and I believe we've

4379
03:32:58,479 --> 03:33:02,720
addressed 100% of the concerns that were

4380
03:33:00,319 --> 03:33:04,640
raised. Um, and it's a quiet local

4381
03:33:02,720 --> 03:33:06,960
tradition uh transitional use. So, it's

4382
03:33:04,640 --> 03:33:09,279
not one that's traditional of noise or

4383
03:33:06,960 --> 03:33:10,399
um traffic impacts anything like so

4384
03:33:09,279 --> 03:33:12,080
don't want to continue to reiterate

4385
03:33:10,399 --> 03:33:13,279
those, but um happy to answer any

4386
03:33:12,080 --> 03:33:16,800
questions you might have. Do you have

4387
03:33:13,279 --> 03:33:19,920
anything? Uh, I just want to touch on

4388
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:22,160
two points. Um, I currently have a

4389
03:33:19,920 --> 03:33:26,000
office space very similar to these

4390
03:33:22,160 --> 03:33:29,040
spaces, which is a 200T office and a

4391
03:33:26,000 --> 03:33:32,000
3,000 ft warehouse. I'm in in the real

4392
03:33:29,040 --> 03:33:35,439
estate business and I have a lot of um

4393
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:37,600
material that that is uh that I use

4394
03:33:35,439 --> 03:33:41,200
regularly, whether it's ceiling fans or

4395
03:33:37,600 --> 03:33:43,680
doors or or lumber. That's what I uh use

4396
03:33:41,200 --> 03:33:46,160
it for, the warehouse side of it for.

4397
03:33:43,680 --> 03:33:49,359
And um talking to my colleagues, I know

4398
03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:51,520
there's a big demand uh for uh realtors

4399
03:33:49,359 --> 03:33:57,040
that have staging equipment that they

4400
03:33:51,520 --> 03:33:59,520
want to use. Um that's that's um and and

4401
03:33:57,040 --> 03:34:02,000
my experience. I'm in my office maybe

4402
03:33:59,520 --> 03:34:04,560
once a day, usually maybe two, three

4403
03:34:02,000 --> 03:34:07,200
times a week. So it's not that I draw a

4404
03:34:04,560 --> 03:34:10,640
lot of traffic. Sometimes I meet clients

4405
03:34:07,200 --> 03:34:13,600
for um signing leases or agreements, but

4406
03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:16,479
that's about it. Um, so I think there's

4407
03:34:13,600 --> 03:34:18,880
a big demand for people like me, um,

4408
03:34:16,479 --> 03:34:20,720
business owners that need storage space.

4409
03:34:18,880 --> 03:34:23,680
Uh, the second thing that I want to

4410
03:34:20,720 --> 03:34:25,680
touch on is, uh, from the beginning, um,

4411
03:34:23,680 --> 03:34:27,840
we've gone to the community. We went

4412
03:34:25,680 --> 03:34:30,800
with an open mind and we listened and we

4413
03:34:27,840 --> 03:34:33,040
took notes and we went back and revised

4414
03:34:30,800 --> 03:34:35,120
and revised and revised and revised.

4415
03:34:33,040 --> 03:34:38,080
There's been zero push back as far as

4416
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:40,160
our end demanding something else. So, um

4417
03:34:38,080 --> 03:34:42,560
I was a little bit surprised that that

4418
03:34:40,160 --> 03:34:45,920
they turned us down because ultimately

4419
03:34:42,560 --> 03:34:48,960
we listened and we uh implemented some

4420
03:34:45,920 --> 03:34:51,680
of their uh concerns.

4421
03:34:48,960 --> 03:34:54,319
» Uh any questions for the applicant or

4422
03:34:51,680 --> 03:34:57,600
his representative this time?

4423
03:34:54,319 --> 03:34:59,200
Council Green.

4424
03:34:57,600 --> 03:35:00,960
» Thank you, Council President Prom. What

4425
03:34:59,200 --> 03:35:03,359
kind of So, you said you're in real

4426
03:35:00,960 --> 03:35:05,120
estate. I guess I'm just kind of my

4427
03:35:03,359 --> 03:35:06,880
question was what other types of

4428
03:35:05,120 --> 03:35:08,160
businesses would go in a space like

4429
03:35:06,880 --> 03:35:10,239
this? Like what do you imagine it would

4430
03:35:08,160 --> 03:35:12,560
be used for? Do you have a prospective

4431
03:35:10,239 --> 03:35:16,080
tenant in mind already or

4432
03:35:12,560 --> 03:35:17,359
» I I do not. Um um we're a little bit

4433
03:35:16,080 --> 03:35:20,000
that's a little bit further down the

4434
03:35:17,359 --> 03:35:21,600
line, but I know there's um some

4435
03:35:20,000 --> 03:35:24,800
collectors from talking to other people

4436
03:35:21,600 --> 03:35:26,720
that have flex spaces that they they uh

4437
03:35:24,800 --> 03:35:29,120
attract collectors that they they like

4438
03:35:26,720 --> 03:35:33,200
to collect items uh and they need a

4439
03:35:29,120 --> 03:35:35,920
storage space. Um, I know talking to uh

4440
03:35:33,200 --> 03:35:38,560
my flooring guy, he needs a similar

4441
03:35:35,920 --> 03:35:40,880
space to to store it because he buys

4442
03:35:38,560 --> 03:35:43,600
pallets of uh flooring at a time and he

4443
03:35:40,880 --> 03:35:45,520
needs a place to store it even though he

4444
03:35:43,600 --> 03:35:48,560
doesn't really you sell it as a retail

4445
03:35:45,520 --> 03:35:50,479
but he needs a space to to so there's an

4446
03:35:48,560 --> 03:35:52,880
extension of real estate that everybody

4447
03:35:50,479 --> 03:35:56,160
you know you you you buy bulk you save.

4448
03:35:52,880 --> 03:35:59,279
So we having a space like that really is

4449
03:35:56,160 --> 03:36:00,399
is helpful. I could answer. We we have a

4450
03:35:59,279 --> 03:36:02,479
lot of these developments that we've

4451
03:36:00,399 --> 03:36:04,720
done over the years as well. Uh what we

4452
03:36:02,479 --> 03:36:06,399
tend to see uh happen is small business.

4453
03:36:04,720 --> 03:36:07,920
Uh it's a lot of times people are out

4454
03:36:06,399 --> 03:36:10,000
going owning their garage. They have a

4455
03:36:07,920 --> 03:36:11,920
home occupation. They need somewhere cuz

4456
03:36:10,000 --> 03:36:13,600
zoning's kicking them out. Uh they need

4457
03:36:11,920 --> 03:36:15,439
somewhere to run their business. Uh that

4458
03:36:13,600 --> 03:36:18,319
can allow them to expand before they get

4459
03:36:15,439 --> 03:36:21,359
their own space. Uh in other cases, it's

4460
03:36:18,319 --> 03:36:23,680
uh Ohio Health and Cardinal. Um they use

4461
03:36:21,359 --> 03:36:25,760
these for their suppliers uh to be able

4462
03:36:23,680 --> 03:36:27,920
to sort and distribute um to local

4463
03:36:25,760 --> 03:36:31,040
hospitals. Uh so a lot of times they'll

4464
03:36:27,920 --> 03:36:34,880
bring in and uh try to uh repackage and

4465
03:36:31,040 --> 03:36:37,200
serve a local uh local business. Uh so

4466
03:36:34,880 --> 03:36:39,359
just as an example, uh those type of

4467
03:36:37,200 --> 03:36:41,279
uses would be kind of fitting the office

4468
03:36:39,359 --> 03:36:42,960
warehouse type. Um I've also seen

4469
03:36:41,279 --> 03:36:44,880
realtors use them. Uh they store their

4470
03:36:42,960 --> 03:36:46,880
signs in the back, they they have their

4471
03:36:44,880 --> 03:36:49,520
office in the front, and um they're low

4472
03:36:46,880 --> 03:36:51,840
impact. That's it's usually uh uh one or

4473
03:36:49,520 --> 03:36:53,760
two trips in per per week. um they'll go

4474
03:36:51,840 --> 03:36:55,040
to title offices for their closing but

4475
03:36:53,760 --> 03:36:57,600
they need somewhere to store their real

4476
03:36:55,040 --> 03:36:59,520
estate signs and office like this works

4477
03:36:57,600 --> 03:37:02,239
out really well.

4478
03:36:59,520 --> 03:37:03,600
» So um two questions. So one, how many

4479
03:37:02,239 --> 03:37:04,880
times you meet with folks from the

4480
03:37:03,600 --> 03:37:06,960
immediate neighborhoods of the civic

4481
03:37:04,880 --> 03:37:09,439
association? Then how many times uh did

4482
03:37:06,960 --> 03:37:11,279
you all meet with the area commission?

4483
03:37:09,439 --> 03:37:13,439
» I believe we had three meetings.

4484
03:37:11,279 --> 03:37:15,680
» I think it was four, but I I couldn't

4485
03:37:13,439 --> 03:37:17,840
tell you the names of them. Just just we

4486
03:37:15,680 --> 03:37:19,760
went I collectively went to four.

4487
03:37:17,840 --> 03:37:21,439
» Right. And I know there's been a lot of

4488
03:37:19,760 --> 03:37:23,040
concessions made. you mentioned around

4489
03:37:21,439 --> 03:37:25,200
sort of limitations. So, what are some

4490
03:37:23,040 --> 03:37:27,120
of the types of businesses that cannot

4491
03:37:25,200 --> 03:37:28,399
be located based upon the limitation

4492
03:37:27,120 --> 03:37:28,880
text that you've agreed to at this

4493
03:37:28,399 --> 03:37:30,960
point?

4494
03:37:28,880 --> 03:37:33,680
» Yeah, I think there was uh some uh push

4495
03:37:30,960 --> 03:37:35,520
back on some of the uh those might be

4496
03:37:33,680 --> 03:37:37,600
working with heavier metals or heavier

4497
03:37:35,520 --> 03:37:40,000
woods. We went to small wood and metal

4498
03:37:37,600 --> 03:37:41,920
products, but um I think those were some

4499
03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:43,840
of the limitations that came out. Um a

4500
03:37:41,920 --> 03:37:45,520
lot of dealing with uh hazardous

4501
03:37:43,840 --> 03:37:49,120
material was one of the things that came

4502
03:37:45,520 --> 03:37:51,040
up. uh storage um in the front or

4503
03:37:49,120 --> 03:37:53,279
outside the units was one of the

4504
03:37:51,040 --> 03:37:56,080
concerns. Uh safety was one of the

4505
03:37:53,279 --> 03:37:58,960
concerns because uh um they wanted more

4506
03:37:56,080 --> 03:38:01,279
lighting, security cameras. Um that was

4507
03:37:58,960 --> 03:38:03,840
one of the concerns. Setbacks are was

4508
03:38:01,279 --> 03:38:05,840
some of the concerns. Um yeah, setbacks

4509
03:38:03,840 --> 03:38:08,720
were a larger one. Um the fence was

4510
03:38:05,840 --> 03:38:11,279
extended uh down the uh the west side or

4511
03:38:08,720 --> 03:38:13,520
the east west side of the property uh to

4512
03:38:11,279 --> 03:38:15,359
fully screen the site. Um we previously

4513
03:38:13,520 --> 03:38:17,040
just screened the residential component.

4514
03:38:15,359 --> 03:38:19,120
Um but it was agreed to screen the

4515
03:38:17,040 --> 03:38:21,120
entirety uh of the western border. So

4516
03:38:19,120 --> 03:38:22,720
that was extended back. Uh but the

4517
03:38:21,120 --> 03:38:24,800
setbacks off the front were also

4518
03:38:22,720 --> 03:38:27,439
extended to ensure that uh nothing was

4519
03:38:24,800 --> 03:38:29,920
built within 50 ft um building wise and

4520
03:38:27,439 --> 03:38:31,680
then even the mound area was preserved.

4521
03:38:29,920 --> 03:38:33,040
So I think it was a 30-foot setback for

4522
03:38:31,680 --> 03:38:35,120
parking in the front.

4523
03:38:33,040 --> 03:38:36,160
» Thank you. Any other questions from my

4524
03:38:35,120 --> 03:38:38,239
council colleagues for the applicant on

4525
03:38:36,160 --> 03:38:39,520
the road? Seeing none. Thank you both.

4526
03:38:38,239 --> 03:38:40,080
I'll invite you up after public

4527
03:38:39,520 --> 03:38:42,080
testimony.

4528
03:38:40,080 --> 03:38:44,239
» Thank you. Uh the first speaker we have

4529
03:38:42,080 --> 03:38:46,399
to come for council is uh North Central

4530
03:38:44,239 --> 03:38:49,399
Air Commissioner Christina Harrison.

4531
03:38:46,399 --> 03:38:49,399
Commissioner.

4532
03:38:52,319 --> 03:38:56,120
I think we have Commissioner Williams.

4533
03:39:00,800 --> 03:39:05,640
» Commissioner, welcome to council. Thank

4534
03:39:02,640 --> 03:39:05,640
you.

4535
03:39:09,359 --> 03:39:12,920
» Good evening everyone.

4536
03:39:14,800 --> 03:39:22,600
Um so here this this evening to speak in

4537
03:39:18,239 --> 03:39:22,600
opposition on behalf of my

4538
03:39:23,120 --> 03:39:27,520
sorry about that on behalf of my

4539
03:39:24,640 --> 03:39:29,920
community. Um to be fair um they did

4540
03:39:27,520 --> 03:39:32,880
come out to our civic association twice.

4541
03:39:29,920 --> 03:39:34,560
they had the area commission meeting um

4542
03:39:32,880 --> 03:39:35,920
and then zoning. So those were the

4543
03:39:34,560 --> 03:39:39,600
accounts of the various meetings that

4544
03:39:35,920 --> 03:39:41,439
took place because they did not they

4545
03:39:39,600 --> 03:39:43,600
came out of order. So that's the reason

4546
03:39:41,439 --> 03:39:47,520
why there were additional meetings. So I

4547
03:39:43,600 --> 03:39:50,160
just wanted to clear that point up. Um

4548
03:39:47,520 --> 03:39:53,040
but American Edition as a whole was

4549
03:39:50,160 --> 03:39:56,319
opposed um to the proposed reszoning of

4550
03:39:53,040 --> 03:39:58,560
the 1695 Dewey Avenue property um into a

4551
03:39:56,319 --> 03:40:02,239
limited manufacturing into a limited

4552
03:39:58,560 --> 03:40:03,920
manufacturing district. Um

4553
03:40:02,239 --> 03:40:07,840
we have been working really hard, very

4554
03:40:03,920 --> 03:40:10,479
diligently to maintain and build up our

4555
03:40:07,840 --> 03:40:11,840
community into a residential space. Um

4556
03:40:10,479 --> 03:40:14,560
if you're familiar with the community,

4557
03:40:11,840 --> 03:40:16,720
it's very close, small, and tightknit.

4558
03:40:14,560 --> 03:40:20,640
Um and then especially on that end of

4559
03:40:16,720 --> 03:40:23,279
Dwey that goes out to be clear um the

4560
03:40:20,640 --> 03:40:25,840
fencing that is there was put up by

4561
03:40:23,279 --> 03:40:27,279
Rumkey. Um I actually sat on that

4562
03:40:25,840 --> 03:40:30,000
planning and development board when they

4563
03:40:27,279 --> 03:40:32,479
built the new Rumkey facility and so

4564
03:40:30,000 --> 03:40:34,880
they do not have any operations that is

4565
03:40:32,479 --> 03:40:37,120
on the side of the property that goes

4566
03:40:34,880 --> 03:40:39,120
along Dwey. So it doesn't disturb the

4567
03:40:37,120 --> 03:40:40,960
church nor the residents that reside

4568
03:40:39,120 --> 03:40:43,200
over there.

4569
03:40:40,960 --> 03:40:47,800
Um, so I wanted to kind of be clear

4570
03:40:43,200 --> 03:40:47,800
about that as well. Um,

4571
03:40:48,479 --> 03:40:52,960
we as a neighborhood have been working

4572
03:40:50,479 --> 03:40:55,120
really close with the city as a whole um

4573
03:40:52,960 --> 03:40:58,720
to kind of advance the be the vision of

4574
03:40:55,120 --> 03:41:00,479
being a net zero community. Um, and

4575
03:40:58,720 --> 03:41:03,680
we've been participating in air quality

4576
03:41:00,479 --> 03:41:05,760
control studies with an innovation team

4577
03:41:03,680 --> 03:41:07,680
and working to maintain our

4578
03:41:05,760 --> 03:41:10,000
neighborhood. As you know, that

4579
03:41:07,680 --> 03:41:12,720
particular area is surrounded by

4580
03:41:10,000 --> 03:41:14,880
pollutants and manufacturing um that

4581
03:41:12,720 --> 03:41:17,120
we've been trying to limit and keep

4582
03:41:14,880 --> 03:41:18,640
residential residential to build up the

4583
03:41:17,120 --> 03:41:21,520
community.

4584
03:41:18,640 --> 03:41:23,520
Um

4585
03:41:21,520 --> 03:41:24,399
we're concerned about the impacts.

4586
03:41:23,520 --> 03:41:26,080
They're saying there's not going to be

4587
03:41:24,399 --> 03:41:28,960
additional like that much additional

4588
03:41:26,080 --> 03:41:30,720
traffic, but if your intent is to rent

4589
03:41:28,960 --> 03:41:32,399
out those various spaces to other

4590
03:41:30,720 --> 03:41:36,720
businesses, there's definitely going to

4591
03:41:32,399 --> 03:41:38,880
be traffic um increased in that area.

4592
03:41:36,720 --> 03:41:41,439
And we've been working with Homeport to

4593
03:41:38,880 --> 03:41:43,680
again build up that community. They're

4594
03:41:41,439 --> 03:41:46,080
on schedule to build 24 additional homes

4595
03:41:43,680 --> 03:41:48,160
and they are going to be particularly on

4596
03:41:46,080 --> 03:41:52,640
Key West and Puritan which go right up

4597
03:41:48,160 --> 03:41:55,200
to the proposed site. Um, to be honest,

4598
03:41:52,640 --> 03:41:57,120
we're all working on affordable housing.

4599
03:41:55,200 --> 03:41:59,200
Um, but just because it's affordable

4600
03:41:57,120 --> 03:42:02,160
doesn't mean someone wants to take it.

4601
03:41:59,200 --> 03:42:04,399
And with it being next to more

4602
03:42:02,160 --> 03:42:06,720
manufacturing, I think that would be a

4603
03:42:04,399 --> 03:42:10,560
deterrent uh for someone that was

4604
03:42:06,720 --> 03:42:12,239
wanting to buy a home. Um, so I'm out

4605
03:42:10,560 --> 03:42:14,560
here just speaking for the behalf of our

4606
03:42:12,239 --> 03:42:18,399
residents. When they did come to the

4607
03:42:14,560 --> 03:42:21,760
civic association, it was voted down 21

4608
03:42:18,399 --> 03:42:24,239
no. the per there was an person that

4609
03:42:21,760 --> 03:42:26,319
abstained and then one person that was

4610
03:42:24,239 --> 03:42:29,200
in support of it. So, the neighborhood

4611
03:42:26,319 --> 03:42:33,479
as a whole alarmingly was against the

4612
03:42:29,200 --> 03:42:33,479
project. Um,

4613
03:42:34,239 --> 03:42:39,840
but my biggest thing is again to fight

4614
03:42:37,439 --> 03:42:42,560
for our residents for the health and

4615
03:42:39,840 --> 03:42:44,479
safety and the well-being of all of our

4616
03:42:42,560 --> 03:42:46,960
residents. And it was just a clear

4617
03:42:44,479 --> 03:42:50,640
resounding no from the neighborhood at

4618
03:42:46,960 --> 03:42:53,680
large. Um, and again, I mean, I will say

4619
03:42:50,640 --> 03:42:56,479
we try to work with them in regards to

4620
03:42:53,680 --> 03:42:58,960
some of the limitations, but we want

4621
03:42:56,479 --> 03:43:02,080
residential to remain residential and

4622
03:42:58,960 --> 03:43:05,359
bring homes into this community. We're a

4623
03:43:02,080 --> 03:43:08,160
familyoriented, close-knit neighborhood.

4624
03:43:05,359 --> 03:43:11,040
We want to remain as such. Um, we're not

4625
03:43:08,160 --> 03:43:15,840
opposed to business as a whole, but when

4626
03:43:11,040 --> 03:43:18,239
you're having a space that is going to

4627
03:43:15,840 --> 03:43:19,920
increase the traffic where it's going

4628
03:43:18,239 --> 03:43:23,120
you're planning on renting out different

4629
03:43:19,920 --> 03:43:25,279
parts of this property. I I just don't

4630
03:43:23,120 --> 03:43:27,760
think it's a great idea. And in addition

4631
03:43:25,279 --> 03:43:30,479
to where the property is going to have

4632
03:43:27,760 --> 03:43:32,000
one in front of the other and based on

4633
03:43:30,479 --> 03:43:33,520
the dimension, I don't see how it

4634
03:43:32,000 --> 03:43:36,080
honestly going to fit because there's

4635
03:43:33,520 --> 03:43:39,760
homes directly across the street from

4636
03:43:36,080 --> 03:43:41,600
this proposed property. Um, but in

4637
03:43:39,760 --> 03:43:43,040
closing, I'm here in represent, you

4638
03:43:41,600 --> 03:43:46,880
know, to represent for my neighbors and

4639
03:43:43,040 --> 03:43:49,439
my community and be their voice and the

4640
03:43:46,880 --> 03:43:50,640
community as a whole was not for this

4641
03:43:49,439 --> 03:43:52,880
project.

4642
03:43:50,640 --> 03:43:54,960
» Thank you, Commissioner Williams. one I

4643
03:43:52,880 --> 03:43:57,520
I wanted to ask you you a question and I

4644
03:43:54,960 --> 03:43:59,600
understand it may be uh difficult to

4645
03:43:57,520 --> 03:44:01,040
speak on this whether on behalf of the

4646
03:43:59,600 --> 03:44:03,120
commission and whether or not you want

4647
03:44:01,040 --> 03:44:04,239
to give your own opinion that certainly

4648
03:44:03,120 --> 03:44:05,920
up to you and I don't want to push you

4649
03:44:04,239 --> 03:44:07,279
on the spot you know the the way that I

4650
03:44:05,920 --> 03:44:09,199
sort of view this application coming

4651
03:44:07,279 --> 03:44:11,600
through it's somewhat unique right in

4652
03:44:09,199 --> 03:44:13,279
the sense of we've got part of it that's

4653
03:44:11,600 --> 03:44:14,720
currently zoned residential and I

4654
03:44:13,279 --> 03:44:16,479
certainly understand the work that you

4655
03:44:14,720 --> 03:44:17,680
and so many folks have done about

4656
03:44:16,479 --> 03:44:19,279
wanting to build up more housing

4657
03:44:17,680 --> 03:44:20,399
opportunities for folks in American

4658
03:44:19,279 --> 03:44:22,399
edition particularly ownership

4659
03:44:20,399 --> 03:44:23,840
opportunities that has you really been

4660
03:44:22,399 --> 03:44:26,000
such a great partnership with Homeport

4661
03:44:23,840 --> 03:44:27,840
and with others. Um, but then the other

4662
03:44:26,000 --> 03:44:30,160
part of the property is zoned, you know,

4663
03:44:27,840 --> 03:44:31,600
manufactured right now and that part of

4664
03:44:30,160 --> 03:44:33,439
the property could could be developed in

4665
03:44:31,600 --> 03:44:35,920
a way that would make that other portion

4666
03:44:33,439 --> 03:44:37,600
that is currently zone residential u be

4667
03:44:35,920 --> 03:44:39,120
developed in a manner that without this

4668
03:44:37,600 --> 03:44:40,479
body taking a vote one way or the other

4669
03:44:39,120 --> 03:44:42,399
because that's just the way it's zoned

4670
03:44:40,479 --> 03:44:44,800
right now. that that would make it

4671
03:44:42,399 --> 03:44:47,120
particularly unattractive for folks to

4672
03:44:44,800 --> 03:44:49,120
want to build residential on the portion

4673
03:44:47,120 --> 03:44:51,439
of that property and would potentially

4674
03:44:49,120 --> 03:44:53,040
have a you know even bigger impact on

4675
03:44:51,439 --> 03:44:54,880
the folks across the street or down the

4676
03:44:53,040 --> 03:44:56,239
street. So for me you know I sort of

4677
03:44:54,880 --> 03:44:58,000
view this you know and again I'm

4678
03:44:56,239 --> 03:44:59,520
speaking myself and whether or not you

4679
03:44:58,000 --> 03:45:01,279
want to you speak to this all is

4680
03:44:59,520 --> 03:45:04,000
certainly up to you. You know it does

4681
03:45:01,279 --> 03:45:06,000
seem like a good transition away from

4682
03:45:04,000 --> 03:45:08,160
that sort of heavier manufacturing. Now,

4683
03:45:06,000 --> 03:45:10,000
I understand your point about Rumkey uh

4684
03:45:08,160 --> 03:45:11,199
not having as much on that property line

4685
03:45:10,000 --> 03:45:12,399
and that was sort of intentional with

4686
03:45:11,199 --> 03:45:13,840
with you all working with them over the

4687
03:45:12,399 --> 03:45:16,399
years and a very sort of intentional

4688
03:45:13,840 --> 03:45:18,479
choice made, but

4689
03:45:16,399 --> 03:45:19,680
this does strike me as a way to sort of

4690
03:45:18,479 --> 03:45:20,960
bring that transition with the

4691
03:45:19,680 --> 03:45:22,960
limitations that you all worked with

4692
03:45:20,960 --> 03:45:24,800
them on. uh considering that part of the

4693
03:45:22,960 --> 03:45:26,640
property right now um you know if we

4694
03:45:24,800 --> 03:45:29,199
were to vote this down today, you know,

4695
03:45:26,640 --> 03:45:31,520
someone could buy that that parcel and

4696
03:45:29,199 --> 03:45:33,040
put lots of things there that I think

4697
03:45:31,520 --> 03:45:35,279
the neighborhood would say that's not

4698
03:45:33,040 --> 03:45:37,199
good for attracting new residents to to

4699
03:45:35,279 --> 03:45:38,479
our community. So, you know, that is

4700
03:45:37,199 --> 03:45:39,840
just the sort of the framework that I'm

4701
03:45:38,479 --> 03:45:41,199
using when I evaluate this and I just

4702
03:45:39,840 --> 03:45:42,239
wanted to give you as an opportunity.

4703
03:45:41,199 --> 03:45:44,080
There's been a lot of meetings about

4704
03:45:42,239 --> 03:45:46,560
this just to respond to that.

4705
03:45:44,080 --> 03:45:48,479
No, I totally wholeheartedly understand

4706
03:45:46,560 --> 03:45:50,640
where you're coming from and that was

4707
03:45:48,479 --> 03:45:51,760
part of the conversation because like

4708
03:45:50,640 --> 03:45:54,000
you said, part of it is own

4709
03:45:51,760 --> 03:45:55,520
manufacturing and they can pretty much

4710
03:45:54,000 --> 03:45:58,399
with manufacturing can pretty much do

4711
03:45:55,520 --> 03:46:00,080
anything, right? Um, and we are kind of

4712
03:45:58,399 --> 03:46:01,359
directly experiencing that because

4713
03:46:00,080 --> 03:46:03,520
directly across the street on Joyce

4714
03:46:01,359 --> 03:46:04,880
Avenue, there is a monstrosity of a

4715
03:46:03,520 --> 03:46:07,680
project that's getting built and it's

4716
03:46:04,880 --> 03:46:08,720
technically South London and it was

4717
03:46:07,680 --> 03:46:10,080
zoned appropriately. So, they didn't

4718
03:46:08,720 --> 03:46:12,080
have to come to any commission. even the

4719
03:46:10,080 --> 03:46:13,279
people in South London are not aware of

4720
03:46:12,080 --> 03:46:15,439
what is actually being [clears throat]

4721
03:46:13,279 --> 03:46:19,520
built and it's infecting affecting the

4722
03:46:15,439 --> 03:46:23,120
American edition community. So, um I

4723
03:46:19,520 --> 03:46:25,359
totally get that aspect and as a

4724
03:46:23,120 --> 03:46:27,439
community we are concerned about it. Um

4725
03:46:25,359 --> 03:46:29,600
I will say you know we did work out with

4726
03:46:27,439 --> 03:46:32,960
some of the limitations

4727
03:46:29,600 --> 03:46:35,520
and if question to you guys if it was

4728
03:46:32,960 --> 03:46:38,399
approved and this is they put forth

4729
03:46:35,520 --> 03:46:40,000
these limitations will these limitations

4730
03:46:38,399 --> 03:46:40,640
carry over to when this property is

4731
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:42,000
sold?

4732
03:46:40,640 --> 03:46:42,479
» It will.

4733
03:46:42,000 --> 03:46:44,399
» Okay.

4734
03:46:42,479 --> 03:46:46,640
» Yeah. The any limitations within the

4735
03:46:44,399 --> 03:46:49,600
text bind over from the zoning? So if

4736
03:46:46,640 --> 03:46:51,600
they were to sell that tomorrow um or a

4737
03:46:49,600 --> 03:46:53,359
year from now or 10 years from now uh

4738
03:46:51,600 --> 03:46:55,120
anything that has been limited in sort

4739
03:46:53,359 --> 03:46:56,800
of this discussion, no one could

4740
03:46:55,120 --> 03:46:58,239
operate, you know, a business or

4741
03:46:56,800 --> 03:46:59,600
anything that would violate those

4742
03:46:58,239 --> 03:47:02,319
restrictions. If they did, that would

4743
03:46:59,600 --> 03:47:03,359
then be a zoning violation. And our good

4744
03:47:02,319 --> 03:47:05,279
folks at the Department of Building

4745
03:47:03,359 --> 03:47:07,279
Zoning Services would issue them, you

4746
03:47:05,279 --> 03:47:08,880
know, a violation and they they either

4747
03:47:07,279 --> 03:47:09,520
have to clean it up or we go shut them

4748
03:47:08,880 --> 03:47:11,520
down.

4749
03:47:09,520 --> 03:47:15,199
» Oh, I know. Danielle and I we're we're

4750
03:47:11,520 --> 03:47:18,160
like this. I put all in 311. [laughter]

4751
03:47:15,199 --> 03:47:20,000
But yes, um we have considered this, but

4752
03:47:18,160 --> 03:47:22,000
again, I am,

4753
03:47:20,000 --> 03:47:23,760
» You know, the community wanted me to

4754
03:47:22,000 --> 03:47:24,720
voice their concerns and that's what I'm

4755
03:47:23,760 --> 03:47:25,040
here to do.

4756
03:47:24,720 --> 03:47:27,359
» Yeah.

4757
03:47:25,040 --> 03:47:31,120
» And it was unfortunate, it was a

4758
03:47:27,359 --> 03:47:33,680
resounding no. We only had one in favor

4759
03:47:31,120 --> 03:47:34,479
and one individual opposed.

4760
03:47:33,680 --> 03:47:35,920
» Yeah. And I certainly

4761
03:47:34,479 --> 03:47:38,399
» Mean, excuse me, abstain.

4762
03:47:35,920 --> 03:47:41,520
» Yeah. And I appreciate that. I guess uh

4763
03:47:38,399 --> 03:47:44,239
and I certainly understand folks, you

4764
03:47:41,520 --> 03:47:47,120
know, interest in in again putting their

4765
03:47:44,239 --> 03:47:49,040
energies into what they um you want to

4766
03:47:47,120 --> 03:47:50,399
see more from a residential standpoint

4767
03:47:49,040 --> 03:47:53,199
develop in that area because that has

4768
03:47:50,399 --> 03:47:54,399
been so much of the focus. Um so I just

4769
03:47:53,199 --> 03:47:56,960
wanted to give you an opportunity to

4770
03:47:54,399 --> 03:47:58,399
sort of speak to um that other aspect of

4771
03:47:56,960 --> 03:48:00,960
from somebody from the outside looking

4772
03:47:58,399 --> 03:48:03,439
in about what else could happen if if

4773
03:48:00,960 --> 03:48:04,640
this body chose to say no to this and

4774
03:48:03,439 --> 03:48:06,239
then something else would come up down

4775
03:48:04,640 --> 03:48:07,840
the line. But I did want to pause and

4776
03:48:06,239 --> 03:48:09,439
see if any of my council colleagues had

4777
03:48:07,840 --> 03:48:11,120
any other questions or questions they

4778
03:48:09,439 --> 03:48:12,560
have for Miss Williams.

4779
03:48:11,120 --> 03:48:13,760
» You're going to bring the applicant back

4780
03:48:12,560 --> 03:48:15,359
up, right? Or no,

4781
03:48:13,760 --> 03:48:17,279
» We have a couple more public speakers

4782
03:48:15,359 --> 03:48:19,120
and then I will bring the applicant back

4783
03:48:17,279 --> 03:48:20,640
on up Ross.

4784
03:48:19,120 --> 03:48:23,600
» I just have a point of a point of

4785
03:48:20,640 --> 03:48:25,920
clarification because it's uh it's not

4786
03:48:23,600 --> 03:48:28,160
often that I will agree with the

4787
03:48:25,920 --> 03:48:31,279
residential zoning being taken away in

4788
03:48:28,160 --> 03:48:34,319
favor of less housing for manufacturing.

4789
03:48:31,279 --> 03:48:38,399
Um, but I heard that the growth

4790
03:48:34,319 --> 03:48:41,680
strategy, which presumably was opined on

4791
03:48:38,399 --> 03:48:46,960
by the community, is going to change

4792
03:48:41,680 --> 03:48:49,439
this to all light use manufacturing at

4793
03:48:46,960 --> 03:48:51,359
some point. This entire both parcels,

4794
03:48:49,439 --> 03:48:52,800
both the residential parcel and the

4795
03:48:51,359 --> 03:48:54,720
manufacturing parcel.

4796
03:48:52,800 --> 03:48:57,040
» Correct. And I can certainly defer to

4797
03:48:54,720 --> 03:48:59,680
Mr. Taba about what that would look

4798
03:48:57,040 --> 03:49:02,399
like. So uh again the the land use

4799
03:48:59,680 --> 03:49:03,760
recommendation from the grocery changed

4800
03:49:02,399 --> 03:49:05,120
again just to make sure that everyone's

4801
03:49:03,760 --> 03:49:07,439
following with us the recommendation

4802
03:49:05,120 --> 03:49:09,199
changed but the zoning did not change.

4803
03:49:07,439 --> 03:49:10,960
So the zoning would potentially change

4804
03:49:09,199 --> 03:49:11,680
in a future phase of zone in which has

4805
03:49:10,960 --> 03:49:12,080
not happened yet.

4806
03:49:11,680 --> 03:49:14,160
» Okay.

4807
03:49:12,080 --> 03:49:16,399
» So again you would that recommendation

4808
03:49:14,160 --> 03:49:19,359
would be as part of what would go into

4809
03:49:16,399 --> 03:49:20,960
that that future phase. Um but not

4810
03:49:19,359 --> 03:49:23,840
necessarily at this point you know

4811
03:49:20,960 --> 03:49:25,840
that's to do this now you still need a

4812
03:49:23,840 --> 03:49:28,560
reasonzoning from from this body. Mr.

4813
03:49:25,840 --> 03:49:32,479
TA.

4814
03:49:28,560 --> 03:49:34,720
» Yeah, that is that is correct. Um, so we

4815
03:49:32,479 --> 03:49:36,720
did uh community outreach and engagement

4816
03:49:34,720 --> 03:49:38,640
as part of the Columbus growth strategy.

4817
03:49:36,720 --> 03:49:40,880
Uh, this was adopted as part of the

4818
03:49:38,640 --> 03:49:43,840
Columbus growth strategy as industrial

4819
03:49:40,880 --> 03:49:45,840
and warehouse. Uh, we have not uh

4820
03:49:43,840 --> 03:49:47,680
crafted or determined what will be the

4821
03:49:45,840 --> 03:49:50,479
proposed zoning district for this area.

4822
03:49:47,680 --> 03:49:51,920
It will be some form of industrial uh at

4823
03:49:50,479 --> 03:49:54,399
which point in time we will be coming

4824
03:49:51,920 --> 03:49:56,319
out to the community to do engagement,

4825
03:49:54,399 --> 03:49:57,920
community education engagement, meet

4826
03:49:56,319 --> 03:50:00,319
with the community, have our gallery to

4827
03:49:57,920 --> 03:50:04,160
determine what is the appropriate zoning

4828
03:50:00,319 --> 03:50:07,359
district for this parcel. But the uh

4829
03:50:04,160 --> 03:50:09,439
growth strategy does uh recommend

4830
03:50:07,359 --> 03:50:11,120
industrial warehouse for both the

4831
03:50:09,439 --> 03:50:14,680
northern portion and the southern

4832
03:50:11,120 --> 03:50:14,680
portion of the parcel.

4833
03:50:14,960 --> 03:50:19,600
» Okay. Sure. So they want to propose an

4834
03:50:18,080 --> 03:50:21,520
industrial in an area that we're

4835
03:50:19,600 --> 03:50:25,120
investing a lot of money into being a

4836
03:50:21,520 --> 03:50:27,040
net zero community and we're surrounded

4837
03:50:25,120 --> 03:50:29,520
by terrible air quality as we're doing

4838
03:50:27,040 --> 03:50:31,120
an air quality study right now. Um our

4839
03:50:29,520 --> 03:50:34,479
community has been plagued for years

4840
03:50:31,120 --> 03:50:35,840
with manufacturing industrial issues um

4841
03:50:34,479 --> 03:50:38,319
and just the health, safety and

4842
03:50:35,840 --> 03:50:42,239
well-being of the community as a whole

4843
03:50:38,319 --> 03:50:45,040
between North Central and Lyndon. Um, as

4844
03:50:42,239 --> 03:50:48,560
you see, we're surrounded by whether

4845
03:50:45,040 --> 03:50:51,199
it's used car places,

4846
03:50:48,560 --> 03:50:52,720
uh, junkyards, salvage yards, we're

4847
03:50:51,199 --> 03:50:56,319
surrounded by it all. And we're trying

4848
03:50:52,720 --> 03:50:58,960
to up a community, invest millions of

4849
03:50:56,319 --> 03:51:01,680
dollars. And then it's still affecting

4850
03:50:58,960 --> 03:51:05,359
the health of individuals as you know a

4851
03:51:01,680 --> 03:51:07,520
lot of the residents in American edition

4852
03:51:05,359 --> 03:51:09,600
Lindale community

4853
03:51:07,520 --> 03:51:11,279
um unfortunately who have lived their

4854
03:51:09,600 --> 03:51:12,880
lives and spent their lives in that

4855
03:51:11,279 --> 03:51:15,439
community a lot of those older residents

4856
03:51:12,880 --> 03:51:18,560
have passed away from cancers and things

4857
03:51:15,439 --> 03:51:20,640
a lot of health issues. So, we're just

4858
03:51:18,560 --> 03:51:22,239
trying to do what is best for the

4859
03:51:20,640 --> 03:51:24,160
residents at whole. M

4860
03:51:22,239 --> 03:51:26,479
» Mr. Mr. Chair, just just a point of

4861
03:51:24,160 --> 03:51:28,960
clarification there and I will give you

4862
03:51:26,479 --> 03:51:31,680
all credit, Madame uh Commissioner,

4863
03:51:28,960 --> 03:51:34,160
because when we talk about that zoning

4864
03:51:31,680 --> 03:51:36,239
distinction of manufacturing, what this

4865
03:51:34,160 --> 03:51:38,880
is is limited manufacturing. So, I know

4866
03:51:36,239 --> 03:51:40,160
it sounds like weird because it's still

4867
03:51:38,880 --> 03:51:41,920
manufacturing, but it's really going to

4868
03:51:40,160 --> 03:51:43,840
be more of an office type of use. And

4869
03:51:41,920 --> 03:51:45,520
that's because of the limitations that

4870
03:51:43,840 --> 03:51:47,439
you all negotiated to put in there. So I

4871
03:51:45,520 --> 03:51:50,640
just want to clarify those limitations

4872
03:51:47,439 --> 03:51:52,880
that you all oppose upon them that they

4873
03:51:50,640 --> 03:51:55,760
came to the table and agreed to will

4874
03:51:52,880 --> 03:51:58,000
stay with this property in perpetuity,

4875
03:51:55,760 --> 03:52:01,439
right? Unless someone comes and we're

4876
03:51:58,000 --> 03:52:03,120
not here to vote that. But what's before

4877
03:52:01,439 --> 03:52:05,520
us I think is the limitation that you

4878
03:52:03,120 --> 03:52:07,359
all put on it as a use. So is that am I

4879
03:52:05,520 --> 03:52:09,040
getting that clear, Mr. Chair? I just

4880
03:52:07,359 --> 03:52:11,359
want to make sure and I just wanted to

4881
03:52:09,040 --> 03:52:14,000
give you credit for stepping up for your

4882
03:52:11,359 --> 03:52:16,080
community to put in those limitations.

4883
03:52:14,000 --> 03:52:17,520
» Thank you. Any

4884
03:52:16,080 --> 03:52:19,840
other questions for Commissioner

4885
03:52:17,520 --> 03:52:21,279
Williams?

4886
03:52:19,840 --> 03:52:22,640
» Thank you so much for being here.

4887
03:52:21,279 --> 03:52:25,040
» Great to see you.

4888
03:52:22,640 --> 03:52:29,640
» Um, we do have a number of other public

4889
03:52:25,040 --> 03:52:29,640
speakers. The first is I bet Kelson.

4890
03:52:39,120 --> 03:52:43,199
» Welcome to council.

4891
03:52:40,399 --> 03:52:45,439
» Hello everybody. I'm a little nervous.

4892
03:52:43,199 --> 03:52:46,720
Um, good evening everyone and I just

4893
03:52:45,439 --> 03:52:49,040
want to thank you all for being here and

4894
03:52:46,720 --> 03:52:50,720
giving us your time and for the awesome

4895
03:52:49,040 --> 03:52:52,640
work that you do for the neighborhood.

4896
03:52:50,720 --> 03:52:54,319
Um, I wrote something up because that's

4897
03:52:52,640 --> 03:52:56,880
a little bit easier for me. So, I'll

4898
03:52:54,319 --> 03:52:59,359
just go through that briefly. So, March

4899
03:52:56,880 --> 03:53:01,840
2026, our community came together to

4900
03:52:59,359 --> 03:53:05,279
provide input on this proposed variance

4901
03:53:01,840 --> 03:53:07,120
and the message was clear. All but one

4902
03:53:05,279 --> 03:53:09,040
part participant uh voted against the

4903
03:53:07,120 --> 03:53:11,439
proposal. This is a residential

4904
03:53:09,040 --> 03:53:13,680
neighborhood and residents do not want

4905
03:53:11,439 --> 03:53:16,319
another manufacturing facility,

4906
03:53:13,680 --> 03:53:18,640
additional warehouses or industrial uses

4907
03:53:16,319 --> 03:53:20,479
placed within our community. We have

4908
03:53:18,640 --> 03:53:22,640
worked hard to build and maintain a

4909
03:53:20,479 --> 03:53:24,960
neighborhood where families can live,

4910
03:53:22,640 --> 03:53:27,120
children can play, and residents can

4911
03:53:24,960 --> 03:53:29,680
enjoy their peace and stability.

4912
03:53:27,120 --> 03:53:31,920
Manufacturing and industrial expansion

4913
03:53:29,680 --> 03:53:34,640
does not belong in our backyards. Please

4914
03:53:31,920 --> 03:53:36,160
vote no. Our concerns are heightened by

4915
03:53:34,640 --> 03:53:38,160
the fact that there are two extremely

4916
03:53:36,160 --> 03:53:40,560
large warehouses that are currently

4917
03:53:38,160 --> 03:53:43,359
being built on Joyce Avenue. One is over

4918
03:53:40,560 --> 03:53:46,640
200,000 square feet and the second one

4919
03:53:43,359 --> 03:53:48,160
is 300,000 square ft over that. Just

4920
03:53:46,640 --> 03:53:49,520
outside of our neighborhood, these

4921
03:53:48,160 --> 03:53:51,680
developments will bring increased

4922
03:53:49,520 --> 03:53:53,680
traffic, congestion, noise, and

4923
03:53:51,680 --> 03:53:56,160
environmental impacts to an area that is

4924
03:53:53,680 --> 03:53:58,239
already heavily burdened. Our

4925
03:53:56,160 --> 03:54:00,080
neighborhood is surrounded by industrial

4926
03:53:58,239 --> 03:54:02,640
businesses and residents are already

4927
03:54:00,080 --> 03:54:04,239
dealing with um the air pollution and

4928
03:54:02,640 --> 03:54:06,479
the negative effects that come with the

4929
03:54:04,239 --> 03:54:08,880
industrial activity. Now, mind you, when

4930
03:54:06,479 --> 03:54:10,960
most of us moved there, Rumkey was not

4931
03:54:08,880 --> 03:54:13,842
there. These two extremely large

4932
03:54:10,960 --> 03:54:14,960
warehouses were not there. Um the

4933
03:54:13,842 --> 03:54:16,720
[clears throat] junkyards were already

4934
03:54:14,960 --> 03:54:19,040
there. Palascalite down the street was

4935
03:54:16,720 --> 03:54:21,600
already there. So, all of this extra

4936
03:54:19,040 --> 03:54:23,520
industrial was definitely we didn't know

4937
03:54:21,600 --> 03:54:25,760
it was coming. Adding these

4938
03:54:23,520 --> 03:54:27,439
manufacturing uses closer to our homes

4939
03:54:25,760 --> 03:54:29,439
will only worsen these existing

4940
03:54:27,439 --> 03:54:32,160
challenges while creating additional

4941
03:54:29,439 --> 03:54:33,760
concerns about safety, quality of life,

4942
03:54:32,160 --> 03:54:35,920
and increased activity from

4943
03:54:33,760 --> 03:54:38,960
non-residents entering our community.

4944
03:54:35,920 --> 03:54:41,359
So, please vote no. Um, to piggyback on

4945
03:54:38,960 --> 03:54:43,040
what Miss Council Member Green had spoke

4946
03:54:41,359 --> 03:54:44,000
about about the businesses that are

4947
03:54:43,040 --> 03:54:45,920
going to be there. There's two

4948
03:54:44,000 --> 03:54:47,680
warehouses and each of them can hold

4949
03:54:45,920 --> 03:54:50,560
five businesses. So, that's a total of

4950
03:54:47,680 --> 03:54:53,120
10. He plans to take over one or two of

4951
03:54:50,560 --> 03:54:54,880
them. So the others will be rented out.

4952
03:54:53,120 --> 03:54:56,080
We're not sure what businesses are going

4953
03:54:54,880 --> 03:54:58,960
to be there. We're only talking

4954
03:54:56,080 --> 03:55:00,319
hypotheticals. So we don't know. Um we

4955
03:54:58,960 --> 03:55:01,920
don't know how long those terms are

4956
03:55:00,319 --> 03:55:03,199
going to be. So additional people will

4957
03:55:01,920 --> 03:55:05,040
be coming in and out of our

4958
03:55:03,199 --> 03:55:07,760
neighborhood. Now we are aware that we

4959
03:55:05,040 --> 03:55:09,439
have Rumpky and the other warehouses,

4960
03:55:07,760 --> 03:55:11,359
but they're on Joyce and they're on the

4961
03:55:09,439 --> 03:55:13,920
outskirts of our neighborhood. This is

4962
03:55:11,359 --> 03:55:15,600
coming directly into it. So that's a

4963
03:55:13,920 --> 03:55:17,600
little bit different. You know, you kind

4964
03:55:15,600 --> 03:55:19,600
of bypass it going down Joyce, but now

4965
03:55:17,600 --> 03:55:22,160
they're going into the neighborhood.

4966
03:55:19,600 --> 03:55:24,399
This issue is more uh than one project

4967
03:55:22,160 --> 03:55:27,120
or one property. It's about the future

4968
03:55:24,399 --> 03:55:29,439
direction of our community. The American

4969
03:55:27,120 --> 03:55:32,080
Edition neighborhood was built on a

4970
03:55:29,439 --> 03:55:34,800
foundation of history, resilience, and

4971
03:55:32,080 --> 03:55:38,000
prosperity. Our homes are not storage

4972
03:55:34,800 --> 03:55:40,160
spaces, warehouses, or locations for

4973
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:42,319
future industrial ventures.

4974
03:55:40,160 --> 03:55:44,000
Manufacturing facilities do not fit into

4975
03:55:42,319 --> 03:55:46,160
the character and the aesthetics or

4976
03:55:44,000 --> 03:55:47,840
purpose of our neighborhood. Our

4977
03:55:46,160 --> 03:55:50,640
community deserves thoughtful planning

4978
03:55:47,840 --> 03:55:52,800
and support uh that supports families,

4979
03:55:50,640 --> 03:55:54,960
seniors, children, homeowners, and

4980
03:55:52,800 --> 03:55:57,120
renters. We need development that

4981
03:55:54,960 --> 03:55:58,880
enhances the quality of life, not

4982
03:55:57,120 --> 03:56:00,720
development that adds more burdens to

4983
03:55:58,880 --> 03:56:03,040
neighborhoods that are already carrying

4984
03:56:00,720 --> 03:56:05,279
the consequences of heavy industrial

4985
03:56:03,040 --> 03:56:06,880
growth. Stand with us to protect our

4986
03:56:05,279 --> 03:56:09,279
community, preserve our residential

4987
03:56:06,880 --> 03:56:11,920
character, and safeguard the future of

4988
03:56:09,279 --> 03:56:14,479
our neighborhood. Please vote no.

4989
03:56:11,920 --> 03:56:16,479
» Thank you. Any questions for my

4990
03:56:14,479 --> 03:56:18,640
colleagues for the public speaker?

4991
03:56:16,479 --> 03:56:20,080
Council.

4992
03:56:18,640 --> 03:56:22,160
» So, thank you for being here and for

4993
03:56:20,080 --> 03:56:23,920
your advocacy. I know it feels

4994
03:56:22,160 --> 03:56:24,399
nerve-wracking to get up and speak, but

4995
03:56:23,920 --> 03:56:25,199
we're good.

4996
03:56:24,399 --> 03:56:26,720
» You did great.

4997
03:56:25,199 --> 03:56:28,560
» Um,

4998
03:56:26,720 --> 03:56:30,640
just talking through the potential

4999
03:56:28,560 --> 03:56:31,439
options of what could be there, right?

5000
03:56:30,640 --> 03:56:33,279
» Yes.

5001
03:56:31,439 --> 03:56:34,880
» Could be an office, right? It could be a

5002
03:56:33,279 --> 03:56:36,399
real estate office that someone is

5003
03:56:34,880 --> 03:56:38,000
storing their things or meeting with

5004
03:56:36,399 --> 03:56:39,760
clients. Do you think that is

5005
03:56:38,000 --> 03:56:41,520
detrimental to the neighborhood or does

5006
03:56:39,760 --> 03:56:44,080
that give residents who may live in the

5007
03:56:41,520 --> 03:56:45,439
area the opportunity to have office

5008
03:56:44,080 --> 03:56:47,520
space nearby?

5009
03:56:45,439 --> 03:56:49,040
» Uh well, if you look at the drawings

5010
03:56:47,520 --> 03:56:50,960
that he had, those were not office

5011
03:56:49,040 --> 03:56:52,880
spaces. It's more warehouse. There's

5012
03:56:50,960 --> 03:56:55,199
going to be a large garage doors in the

5013
03:56:52,880 --> 03:56:57,520
back so they can bring trucks to unload

5014
03:56:55,199 --> 03:57:00,080
and load what we don't know. All of this

5015
03:56:57,520 --> 03:57:01,840
is hypothetical businesses. Uh they may

5016
03:57:00,080 --> 03:57:03,488
build it and decide to sell it. So then

5017
03:57:01,840 --> 03:57:04,960
we don't know what the future uh

5018
03:57:03,488 --> 03:57:06,800
[cough and laughter] owner is going to

5019
03:57:04,960 --> 03:57:08,319
do. So, no one really knows what's going

5020
03:57:06,800 --> 03:57:10,479
to be there, but what we do know that it

5021
03:57:08,319 --> 03:57:12,640
can be up to 10 businesses, random

5022
03:57:10,479 --> 03:57:14,880
businesses, uh, which will increase the

5023
03:57:12,640 --> 03:57:16,399
traffic. Um, we we like the fact that

5024
03:57:14,880 --> 03:57:18,000
we're kind of tucked away even though we

5025
03:57:16,399 --> 03:57:20,640
aren't. There's kind of trees that

5026
03:57:18,000 --> 03:57:22,479
divide us from the main street of Joyce.

5027
03:57:20,640 --> 03:57:24,800
Um, but nonetheless, they'll be coming

5028
03:57:22,479 --> 03:57:26,960
into the neighborhood. And so, we can't

5029
03:57:24,800 --> 03:57:28,720
predict what will come with that. So,

5030
03:57:26,960 --> 03:57:30,160
that's what really concerns me. We don't

5031
03:57:28,720 --> 03:57:31,680
know what's coming. Yeah, we know a

5032
03:57:30,160 --> 03:57:32,960
building is coming, but we don't know

5033
03:57:31,680 --> 03:57:35,040
what's going to be in the building,

5034
03:57:32,960 --> 03:57:36,560
who's going to be there. they'll be in

5035
03:57:35,040 --> 03:57:38,880
the neighborhood opposed to the

5036
03:57:36,560 --> 03:57:39,439
outskirts of it. So, that's really a

5037
03:57:38,880 --> 03:57:41,439
concern.

5038
03:57:39,439 --> 03:57:43,120
» Do the limitations that are being placed

5039
03:57:41,439 --> 03:57:46,160
on the property make any difference to

5040
03:57:43,120 --> 03:57:48,720
you at all in terms of knowing that at a

5041
03:57:46,160 --> 03:57:50,479
minimum it won't be heavy industrial or

5042
03:57:48,720 --> 03:57:51,040
heavy manufacturing happening at that

5043
03:57:50,479 --> 03:57:53,600
site?

5044
03:57:51,040 --> 03:57:55,279
» Not really. And I say that only because

5045
03:57:53,600 --> 03:57:58,720
again the safety of the neighborhood,

5046
03:57:55,279 --> 03:58:00,960
the people that'll be coming in and it's

5047
03:57:58,720 --> 03:58:03,040
already we have enough industrial, you

5048
03:58:00,960 --> 03:58:05,199
know, once those two warehouses get

5049
03:58:03,040 --> 03:58:07,120
going, the traffic is going to increase.

5050
03:58:05,199 --> 03:58:08,960
There's literally only two lanes, so

5051
03:58:07,120 --> 03:58:11,120
there's no middle lane to bypass

5052
03:58:08,960 --> 03:58:14,720
anything. We do have accidents that are

5053
03:58:11,120 --> 03:58:17,040
on uh 5th and 12th, and there's been

5054
03:58:14,720 --> 03:58:20,080
accidents that have been on Woodford and

5055
03:58:17,040 --> 03:58:21,359
uh Joyce Joyce. Yes. on. And so with

5056
03:58:20,080 --> 03:58:23,760
that being said, it's just going to be

5057
03:58:21,359 --> 03:58:25,199
increased traffic. Um we don't know what

5058
03:58:23,760 --> 03:58:26,880
his hours are going to be. It's not

5059
03:58:25,199 --> 03:58:28,399
gated. If it was gated, that would be

5060
03:58:26,880 --> 03:58:30,000
nice to, you know, after 10 o'clock,

5061
03:58:28,399 --> 03:58:31,760
there won't be any additional traffic.

5062
03:58:30,000 --> 03:58:34,720
That's just a safety measure that can be

5063
03:58:31,760 --> 03:58:36,239
proposed. I don't know. Um but it's just

5064
03:58:34,720 --> 03:58:38,720
going to be more traffic coming in and

5065
03:58:36,239 --> 03:58:40,479
out. Once those warehouses get built,

5066
03:58:38,720 --> 03:58:42,239
it's going to be crazy on Joyce. And

5067
03:58:40,479 --> 03:58:44,000
it's already kind of crazy now, but it's

5068
03:58:42,239 --> 03:58:47,760
just going to get worse.

5069
03:58:44,000 --> 03:58:50,319
» Appreciate it. Thank you. Other

5070
03:58:47,760 --> 03:58:53,279
question, my colleagues?

5071
03:58:50,319 --> 03:58:55,520
Thank you. Um, we do have a couple other

5072
03:58:53,279 --> 03:58:59,319
speakers. Uh, Mr. Frank Brown. Mr.

5073
03:58:55,520 --> 03:58:59,319
Brown, welcome to council.

5074
03:59:11,279 --> 03:59:15,840
President Harding,

5075
03:59:13,359 --> 03:59:17,279
members of city council, good evening.

5076
03:59:15,840 --> 03:59:19,680
My name is Frank Brown, living in

5077
03:59:17,279 --> 03:59:21,920
American edition.

5078
03:59:19,680 --> 03:59:24,319
I'm here today to express my opposition

5079
03:59:21,920 --> 03:59:26,479
to the approval of any new manufacturing

5080
03:59:24,319 --> 03:59:28,880
facilities, warehouse, storage

5081
03:59:26,479 --> 03:59:30,880
facilities within the community, the

5082
03:59:28,880 --> 03:59:34,399
Dwey project.

5083
03:59:30,880 --> 03:59:36,319
And I also ask you to vote no.

5084
03:59:34,399 --> 03:59:38,560
Our neighbor has already absorbed a

5085
03:59:36,319 --> 03:59:40,399
significant amount of industrial and

5086
03:59:38,560 --> 03:59:42,319
junkyard related development. As

5087
03:59:40,399 --> 03:59:44,160
mentioned earlier,

5088
03:59:42,319 --> 03:59:48,000
additional facilities will increase

5089
03:59:44,160 --> 03:59:50,800
truck traffic, congestion, noise, air

5090
03:59:48,000 --> 03:59:53,840
emissions, which we already have, and

5091
03:59:50,800 --> 03:59:55,520
where our local infrastructure. These

5092
03:59:53,840 --> 03:59:57,840
impacts directly affect residents

5093
03:59:55,520 --> 04:00:00,720
quality of life and can diminish the

5094
03:59:57,840 --> 04:00:03,040
character of our great community. Again,

5095
04:00:00,720 --> 04:00:05,279
vote no.

5096
04:00:03,040 --> 04:00:06,560
While economic development is important,

5097
04:00:05,279 --> 04:00:08,800
growth should be balanced on the

5098
04:00:06,560 --> 04:00:12,080
alignment of the needs of the residents

5099
04:00:08,800 --> 04:00:14,160
and the community. Continue expansion of

5100
04:00:12,080 --> 04:00:16,399
manufacturing and storage facilities

5101
04:00:14,160 --> 04:00:20,080
risk concentrating industrial activity

5102
04:00:16,399 --> 04:00:23,600
in areas that should be prop prioritized

5103
04:00:20,080 --> 04:00:27,800
for housing, parks, small businesses,

5104
04:00:23,600 --> 04:00:27,800
and community service.

5105
04:00:28,960 --> 04:00:35,279
Other issues are enhanced to

5106
04:00:32,160 --> 04:00:38,080
other issu other uses is to enhance

5107
04:00:35,279 --> 04:00:40,399
neighborhood liabilities. We know that

5108
04:00:38,080 --> 04:00:43,600
it's zone manufacturing has been like

5109
04:00:40,399 --> 04:00:46,080
for many years matter of fact over

5110
04:00:43,600 --> 04:00:50,000
several years.

5111
04:00:46,080 --> 04:00:51,840
We also know why red lining

5112
04:00:50,000 --> 04:00:54,720
and by the way it still exists in our

5113
04:00:51,840 --> 04:00:56,800
community. My wife, my niece are fourth

5114
04:00:54,720 --> 04:00:59,199
and fifth generational residents,

5115
04:00:56,800 --> 04:01:01,840
homeowners in American edition. I

5116
04:00:59,199 --> 04:01:05,040
respectfully ask the city council to

5117
04:01:01,840 --> 04:01:06,640
consider long term to to consider the

5118
04:01:05,040 --> 04:01:08,239
long-term impact of additional

5119
04:01:06,640 --> 04:01:10,080
industrial and warehouse development to

5120
04:01:08,239 --> 04:01:12,560
be placing greater emphasis on

5121
04:01:10,080 --> 04:01:14,399
protecting public's health, safety,

5122
04:01:12,560 --> 04:01:17,199
environmental quality, and property

5123
04:01:14,399 --> 04:01:20,000
values. Residents deserve meaningful

5124
04:01:17,199 --> 04:01:23,439
input into this decision affecting our

5125
04:01:20,000 --> 04:01:26,239
future in our neighborhoods.

5126
04:01:23,439 --> 04:01:29,439
Please again vote no. Thank you for your

5127
04:01:26,239 --> 04:01:31,199
time. Any questions?

5128
04:01:29,439 --> 04:01:33,120
» Any questions from Mr. Brown, my

5129
04:01:31,199 --> 04:01:34,319
colleagues?

5130
04:01:33,120 --> 04:01:35,040
» Thank you, sir.

5131
04:01:34,319 --> 04:01:37,600
» Thank you.

5132
04:01:35,040 --> 04:01:40,479
» Uh the next speaker come before council

5133
04:01:37,600 --> 04:01:43,479
is Miss Laura Com. Come, welcome back to

5134
04:01:40,479 --> 04:01:43,479
council.

5135
04:01:49,520 --> 04:01:53,600
Good evening, Chairman Dorans, President

5136
04:01:52,080 --> 04:01:56,080
Harden, members of council. It's nice to

5137
04:01:53,600 --> 04:01:58,160
see everyone this evening. Uh, I have

5138
04:01:56,080 --> 04:01:59,760
the distinct pleasure this evening of

5139
04:01:58,160 --> 04:02:02,800
appearing on behalf of the property

5140
04:01:59,760 --> 04:02:04,960
owner, Mr. Wallace McClean.

5141
04:02:02,800 --> 04:02:08,080
He sends his regards and apologies for

5142
04:02:04,960 --> 04:02:10,560
not being able to be here this evening.

5143
04:02:08,080 --> 04:02:12,880
Many of you know him. He is a pillar of

5144
04:02:10,560 --> 04:02:16,160
our community and of this neighborhood,

5145
04:02:12,880 --> 04:02:18,160
North Central Area Commission.

5146
04:02:16,160 --> 04:02:20,640
Mr. McClean

5147
04:02:18,160 --> 04:02:24,160
is the kind of person who would rent one

5148
04:02:20,640 --> 04:02:26,239
of these spaces, right? As a small

5149
04:02:24,160 --> 04:02:29,600
businessman who had lawnmowers and small

5150
04:02:26,239 --> 04:02:31,840
equipment and machinery in small spaces,

5151
04:02:29,600 --> 04:02:34,239
he's the kind of business on a small

5152
04:02:31,840 --> 04:02:35,520
scale that would use these businesses,

5153
04:02:34,239 --> 04:02:38,960
that would use these new warehouse

5154
04:02:35,520 --> 04:02:40,880
facilities. Um, you can still be

5155
04:02:38,960 --> 04:02:44,720
community friendly and still be business

5156
04:02:40,880 --> 04:02:47,600
friendly. We talk about scope, scale,

5157
04:02:44,720 --> 04:02:50,960
and context of where uses and

5158
04:02:47,600 --> 04:02:53,840
developments go. I did some math. 2.2

5159
04:02:50,960 --> 04:02:56,640
acres next door to Rumpky, which is 25

5160
04:02:53,840 --> 04:02:59,840
acres. These are smaller individual

5161
04:02:56,640 --> 04:03:01,760
spaces. Rumkey is 185,000

5162
04:02:59,840 --> 04:03:03,600
square feet. It's awesome. It's good for

5163
04:03:01,760 --> 04:03:07,199
the neighborhood. What's What's the

5164
04:03:03,600 --> 04:03:10,560
balance? The context is this use with no

5165
04:03:07,199 --> 04:03:12,960
manufacturing serves as a buffer between

5166
04:03:10,560 --> 04:03:16,319
the residential and the significantly

5167
04:03:12,960 --> 04:03:19,359
more intense Rumkey use.

5168
04:03:16,319 --> 04:03:22,080
And let's understand, I think you can

5169
04:03:19,359 --> 04:03:24,160
ask Councilwoman Ross what happens in

5170
04:03:22,080 --> 04:03:27,520
this particular neighborhood in areas

5171
04:03:24,160 --> 04:03:28,880
that are left vacant and are unattended.

5172
04:03:27,520 --> 04:03:30,880
They're not serving an economic

5173
04:03:28,880 --> 04:03:34,000
development purpose. They serve as area

5174
04:03:30,880 --> 04:03:37,439
for crime and significant dumping. All

5175
04:03:34,000 --> 04:03:38,960
of that happens. The counter to that is

5176
04:03:37,439 --> 04:03:41,120
private investment. There's no

5177
04:03:38,960 --> 04:03:42,800
incentive. There's no subsidy for

5178
04:03:41,120 --> 04:03:45,120
somebody who wants to come in and put a

5179
04:03:42,800 --> 04:03:47,279
reasonable small business, right? A

5180
04:03:45,120 --> 04:03:49,120
series of small businesses in this area.

5181
04:03:47,279 --> 04:03:52,640
They have met every request for

5182
04:03:49,120 --> 04:03:55,120
screening and buffering. And um so then

5183
04:03:52,640 --> 04:03:57,040
you add tax base and you add jobs and

5184
04:03:55,120 --> 04:04:00,160
you add small contractors who can use

5185
04:03:57,040 --> 04:04:02,399
the space. Folks like Mr. clean, who

5186
04:04:00,160 --> 04:04:04,960
picked up the jobs, who picked up the

5187
04:04:02,399 --> 04:04:08,000
yards, who mowed the yards all these

5188
04:04:04,960 --> 04:04:09,439
years, right? Who's done that for his

5189
04:04:08,000 --> 04:04:12,239
neighborhood, his community, the

5190
04:04:09,439 --> 04:04:14,319
nonprofits. This is small scale. It's

5191
04:04:12,239 --> 04:04:17,520
about scope, right? It's about scope and

5192
04:04:14,319 --> 04:04:19,040
context. And so, we'd encourage you to

5193
04:04:17,520 --> 04:04:21,359
consider those. All the other points

5194
04:04:19,040 --> 04:04:23,120
have been made are are well taken.

5195
04:04:21,359 --> 04:04:25,920
There's not manufacturing. This isn't

5196
04:04:23,120 --> 04:04:28,000
heavy emissions, right? This isn't it

5197
04:04:25,920 --> 04:04:29,279
isn't quite frankly even the rumy the

5198
04:04:28,000 --> 04:04:31,199
level of activity that will come from

5199
04:04:29,279 --> 04:04:33,680
that. So there's a different way to look

5200
04:04:31,199 --> 04:04:35,680
at it. A little bit of investment and a

5201
04:04:33,680 --> 04:04:37,040
little bit of traffic signals vitality,

5202
04:04:35,680 --> 04:04:39,040
right? We all put up with a little more

5203
04:04:37,040 --> 04:04:41,680
traffic as we grow, but this could

5204
04:04:39,040 --> 04:04:43,439
signal vitality for a neighborhood. This

5205
04:04:41,680 --> 04:04:45,520
neighborhood actually deserves something

5206
04:04:43,439 --> 04:04:47,680
like this for people to come in and

5207
04:04:45,520 --> 04:04:49,920
privately put in money. That's an

5208
04:04:47,680 --> 04:04:52,000
opportunity for small businesses in this

5209
04:04:49,920 --> 04:04:52,720
community. Happy to answer any

5210
04:04:52,000 --> 04:04:54,479
questions.

5211
04:04:52,720 --> 04:04:56,080
» Thank you, Miss Gomech. Any question my

5212
04:04:54,479 --> 04:04:58,399
colleagues

5213
04:04:56,080 --> 04:05:00,000
customer green

5214
04:04:58,399 --> 04:05:02,880
» Question come do you have a sense of

5215
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:04,560
like what um what price range the

5216
04:05:02,880 --> 04:05:06,239
individual units are going to be rented

5217
04:05:04,560 --> 04:05:07,439
out to for the small business owners.

5218
04:05:06,239 --> 04:05:08,800
I'm just thinking about like if there's

5219
04:05:07,439 --> 04:05:10,160
any neighborhood based small business

5220
04:05:08,800 --> 04:05:12,080
owners too in that area that would

5221
04:05:10,160 --> 04:05:14,080
benefit from having a shop or a workout

5222
04:05:12,080 --> 04:05:15,359
» On this one. I'm not the applicant so I

5223
04:05:14,080 --> 04:05:19,840
don't know that answer.

5224
04:05:15,359 --> 04:05:22,640
» Okay. I defer to uh CL.

5225
04:05:19,840 --> 04:05:24,800
» Any other questions?

5226
04:05:22,640 --> 04:05:26,800
Seeing none. Thank you, Miss Gome. Uh,

5227
04:05:24,800 --> 04:05:28,560
we do have one final speaker before I

5228
04:05:26,800 --> 04:05:30,239
bring the applicant back up. Uh, Miss

5229
04:05:28,560 --> 04:05:34,279
Stephanie Morris.

5230
04:05:30,239 --> 04:05:34,279
» Miss Morris, welcome to council.

5231
04:05:45,439 --> 04:05:50,080
Good evening, council. Again, my name is

5232
04:05:47,520 --> 04:05:51,439
Stephanie Morris. Um, I did write

5233
04:05:50,080 --> 04:05:53,439
something down, but I'm not even going

5234
04:05:51,439 --> 04:05:57,920
to look at it. I'm going to speak from

5235
04:05:53,439 --> 04:06:00,560
the heart. Both my parents lived out in

5236
04:05:57,920 --> 04:06:02,239
American edition. My mother was bought

5237
04:06:00,560 --> 04:06:06,880
out there when she was 2 years old. She

5238
04:06:02,239 --> 04:06:08,880
lived on Zixby Avenue. My grandfather

5239
04:06:06,880 --> 04:06:12,960
built the house that me and my family

5240
04:06:08,880 --> 04:06:15,040
were raised in 95 years ago. My dad met

5241
04:06:12,960 --> 04:06:16,960
my mom

5242
04:06:15,040 --> 04:06:19,199
from Zixby and got married on Lee

5243
04:06:16,960 --> 04:06:24,399
Avenue, which is the where I built my

5244
04:06:19,199 --> 04:06:26,319
house at as well. So, it's not just

5245
04:06:24,399 --> 04:06:29,279
about manufacturing.

5246
04:06:26,319 --> 04:06:33,359
It's all families. It's all families out

5247
04:06:29,279 --> 04:06:37,600
there, predominantly black, 95%

5248
04:06:33,359 --> 04:06:39,840
um that have worked hard to

5249
04:06:37,600 --> 04:06:43,760
build their homes, to live in their

5250
04:06:39,840 --> 04:06:46,880
homes, to try to be healthy. And as Myra

5251
04:06:43,760 --> 04:06:49,120
did indicate that some cancer, my mom

5252
04:06:46,880 --> 04:06:51,040
died of lung cancer. We didn't even know

5253
04:06:49,120 --> 04:06:53,199
she had it.

5254
04:06:51,040 --> 04:06:57,040
Stage four,

5255
04:06:53,199 --> 04:07:00,080
she lived to be 93. My grandmother Zixby

5256
04:06:57,040 --> 04:07:03,359
Avenue lived to be 95.

5257
04:07:00,080 --> 04:07:06,239
So it's a lot of generations out there

5258
04:07:03,359 --> 04:07:10,560
that is two, three, four, five, five

5259
04:07:06,239 --> 04:07:12,239
years that's been out there. So no, I

5260
04:07:10,560 --> 04:07:15,840
don't think we need a manufacturing

5261
04:07:12,239 --> 04:07:18,479
plant inside of our community.

5262
04:07:15,840 --> 04:07:21,600
I don't think so. There's no need for

5263
04:07:18,479 --> 04:07:25,359
it. If he has places now to store his

5264
04:07:21,600 --> 04:07:26,880
stuff, then he already has a place. If

5265
04:07:25,359 --> 04:07:29,680
realators

5266
04:07:26,880 --> 04:07:32,960
need place, more places to store their

5267
04:07:29,680 --> 04:07:35,920
stuff, they can buy those bins. They can

5268
04:07:32,960 --> 04:07:38,160
use those bins next to their offices and

5269
04:07:35,920 --> 04:07:41,840
put their stuff there.

5270
04:07:38,160 --> 04:07:45,439
There's no need to have a manufacturing

5271
04:07:41,840 --> 04:07:48,319
plant in inside of our community. We

5272
04:07:45,439 --> 04:07:51,680
have three streets. We have Dwey, we

5273
04:07:48,319 --> 04:07:54,080
have Woodford, and we have 12th Avenue.

5274
04:07:51,680 --> 04:07:56,160
They run east and west. They are not

5275
04:07:54,080 --> 04:07:59,359
through streets. So, you have to go in

5276
04:07:56,160 --> 04:08:02,080
one way and come out the same. We have

5277
04:07:59,359 --> 04:08:06,000
six streets that make up the community

5278
04:08:02,080 --> 04:08:10,000
from Joyce Avenue, which is Zixby, Lee

5279
04:08:06,000 --> 04:08:12,640
Avenue, Samson Avenue, Key West, and

5280
04:08:10,000 --> 04:08:14,960
Puritan. So, those are our five streets.

5281
04:08:12,640 --> 04:08:17,439
I'm sorry. Well, including Joyce. So

5282
04:08:14,960 --> 04:08:20,640
that is our community.

5283
04:08:17,439 --> 04:08:23,040
We are five streets with three streets

5284
04:08:20,640 --> 04:08:27,520
that run east and west and the rest run

5285
04:08:23,040 --> 04:08:30,319
north and south. So there's other places

5286
04:08:27,520 --> 04:08:33,439
within Columbus, Ohio

5287
04:08:30,319 --> 04:08:34,960
that these people can build their

5288
04:08:33,439 --> 04:08:37,199
offices.

5289
04:08:34,960 --> 04:08:39,600
We already know that the back end of it

5290
04:08:37,199 --> 04:08:41,520
is manufacturing, but the front end is

5291
04:08:39,600 --> 04:08:43,439
residential.

5292
04:08:41,520 --> 04:08:45,680
I have a home built out there from

5293
04:08:43,439 --> 04:08:48,000
Homeport and I know they're supposed to

5294
04:08:45,680 --> 04:08:50,319
be building some more. So, we want a

5295
04:08:48,000 --> 04:08:52,080
single family home. That's what we are

5296
04:08:50,319 --> 04:08:56,720
now. That's what we want to remain to

5297
04:08:52,080 --> 04:08:58,800
be. We are redlined and I mean I didn't

5298
04:08:56,720 --> 04:09:02,720
know the understanding of red line but I

5299
04:08:58,800 --> 04:09:05,279
do now. So, like I said, there's no

5300
04:09:02,720 --> 04:09:07,279
reason for him to actually build inside

5301
04:09:05,279 --> 04:09:10,160
of our neighborhood. There's other

5302
04:09:07,279 --> 04:09:13,439
places. And I did want to make the fact

5303
04:09:10,160 --> 04:09:16,160
that when we had our voting, Mr. Mlan

5304
04:09:13,439 --> 04:09:20,279
voted no. He did not want the

5305
04:09:16,160 --> 04:09:20,279
manufacturer on that property.

5306
04:09:20,560 --> 04:09:23,840
» I'm done. [snorts]

5307
04:09:22,880 --> 04:09:26,479
» That's it.

5308
04:09:23,840 --> 04:09:29,359
» Uh any question, my colleagues from Miss

5309
04:09:26,479 --> 04:09:30,880
Morris?

5310
04:09:29,359 --> 04:09:33,359
» Thank you very much for being here.

5311
04:09:30,880 --> 04:09:34,800
» Thank you. Have a good night. did want

5312
04:09:33,359 --> 04:09:37,279
to invite the applicant and his

5313
04:09:34,800 --> 04:09:41,640
representative back up to respond to

5314
04:09:37,279 --> 04:09:41,640
anything with regard to public comment.

5315
04:09:52,880 --> 04:09:56,319
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you,

5316
04:09:54,319 --> 04:09:58,880
councel. Thank you to uh area

5317
04:09:56,319 --> 04:10:00,560
commissioner and those that spoke. Um I

5318
04:09:58,880 --> 04:10:02,160
briefly addressed some of the comments.

5319
04:10:00,560 --> 04:10:03,840
Um just to clarify, this is not a

5320
04:10:02,160 --> 04:10:07,359
manufacturing plant. Um that's being

5321
04:10:03,840 --> 04:10:09,920
proposed. Um the uh typical use is an 8

5322
04:10:07,359 --> 04:10:12,239
to5 office with warehouse in the back.

5323
04:10:09,920 --> 04:10:14,239
Um these type of uses aren't they they

5324
04:10:12,239 --> 04:10:15,680
have to satisfy a landlord. So uh you're

5325
04:10:14,239 --> 04:10:18,479
not seeing people that are running

5326
04:10:15,680 --> 04:10:20,000
24-hour type of operations here. Um some

5327
04:10:18,479 --> 04:10:22,479
of the comments that were mentioned were

5328
04:10:20,000 --> 04:10:24,560
good ones. Uh the discussion of gating a

5329
04:10:22,479 --> 04:10:26,560
development like this. Um obviously

5330
04:10:24,560 --> 04:10:27,760
that's something that uh if addressed we

5331
04:10:26,560 --> 04:10:30,239
we you know we could have addressed that

5332
04:10:27,760 --> 04:10:32,000
in the limitation text as well. um the

5333
04:10:30,239 --> 04:10:33,600
net zero. I I think there's things

5334
04:10:32,000 --> 04:10:36,160
within this development that could could

5335
04:10:33,600 --> 04:10:37,520
address net zero as well. Um so if

5336
04:10:36,160 --> 04:10:39,199
there's opportunities to try to

5337
04:10:37,520 --> 04:10:40,960
integrate those, it's it's not likely

5338
04:10:39,199 --> 04:10:43,040
that this site's going to get downzoned.

5339
04:10:40,960 --> 04:10:45,920
Um it was previously recommended or it

5340
04:10:43,040 --> 04:10:48,160
was previously proposed for a uh

5341
04:10:45,920 --> 04:10:51,279
landscape business uh for outside

5342
04:10:48,160 --> 04:10:53,680
storage of of um construction or uh for

5343
04:10:51,279 --> 04:10:54,800
landscape materials. And uh we feel like

5344
04:10:53,680 --> 04:10:56,479
this site's going to be a lot more

5345
04:10:54,800 --> 04:10:58,800
conducive for this that's not outside

5346
04:10:56,479 --> 04:11:00,800
storage. It's not heavy equipment. um

5347
04:10:58,800 --> 04:11:02,960
this type of use is integrated into the

5348
04:11:00,800 --> 04:11:05,120
commi community. It's jobs for the

5349
04:11:02,960 --> 04:11:07,199
community. It it fills an immediate need

5350
04:11:05,120 --> 04:11:08,800
in the community. Um that's why we don't

5351
04:11:07,199 --> 04:11:11,279
know what uses are going to be in there

5352
04:11:08,800 --> 04:11:13,359
today. Um the idea is it's being it's an

5353
04:11:11,279 --> 04:11:16,160
investment in the community uh to try to

5354
04:11:13,359 --> 04:11:18,160
provide an opportunity. Um I think as

5355
04:11:16,160 --> 04:11:20,319
far as rent, I I'll let uh my uh my

5356
04:11:18,160 --> 04:11:22,239
client discuss uh the the rent um

5357
04:11:20,319 --> 04:11:24,399
perspective. There's costs that go into

5358
04:11:22,239 --> 04:11:25,680
development. Obviously uh uh that needs

5359
04:11:24,399 --> 04:11:27,279
to get addressed in the in the

5360
04:11:25,680 --> 04:11:29,840
discussion as far as what rent gets set

5361
04:11:27,279 --> 04:11:31,680
at. But um there all uses generate

5362
04:11:29,840 --> 04:11:33,600
traffic. Um we looked at the front of

5363
04:11:31,680 --> 04:11:35,920
this site suitably being used for

5364
04:11:33,600 --> 04:11:37,840
residential whether it's eight or 10

5365
04:11:35,920 --> 04:11:39,680
lots to match in with the fabric of the

5366
04:11:37,840 --> 04:11:41,600
existing neighborhood. Um that's going

5367
04:11:39,680 --> 04:11:43,840
to generate traffic as well. All uses

5368
04:11:41,600 --> 04:11:46,000
generate traffic. Uh we feel like this

5369
04:11:43,840 --> 04:11:47,840
is a low impact. Um typically this is

5370
04:11:46,000 --> 04:11:50,800
one, two, three employees that show up

5371
04:11:47,840 --> 04:11:52,239
for work in a use. Uh they come and go.

5372
04:11:50,800 --> 04:11:54,640
uh they usually eat lunch in the

5373
04:11:52,239 --> 04:11:57,120
neighborhood. Uh they they um they try

5374
04:11:54,640 --> 04:11:59,760
they if not at their desk um but they're

5375
04:11:57,120 --> 04:12:01,920
they're usually local trips. Uh this

5376
04:11:59,760 --> 04:12:03,840
isn't uh people coming living and then

5377
04:12:01,920 --> 04:12:06,880
moving or going to other places for

5378
04:12:03,840 --> 04:12:09,199
work. So uh we do feel like it's a the

5379
04:12:06,880 --> 04:12:12,160
hypothetical fears of what could come in

5380
04:12:09,199 --> 04:12:14,479
there uh is is maybe um hard to contend

5381
04:12:12,160 --> 04:12:16,160
with, but it's it's a two-way street.

5382
04:12:14,479 --> 04:12:17,920
Um, businesses when they when they look

5383
04:12:16,160 --> 04:12:19,600
at site selection, they pick where to

5384
04:12:17,920 --> 04:12:20,880
locate their business, just like the

5385
04:12:19,600 --> 04:12:22,800
neighborhoods picking what they can do

5386
04:12:20,880 --> 04:12:24,800
with this site. Um, these office

5387
04:12:22,800 --> 04:12:27,040
warehouses are going to be interviewed

5388
04:12:24,800 --> 04:12:28,399
by potential tenants and we hope that

5389
04:12:27,040 --> 04:12:30,800
people in the neighborhood actually find

5390
04:12:28,399 --> 04:12:33,439
it appealing to to work there to to

5391
04:12:30,800 --> 04:12:34,800
operate businesses there. Um, if

5392
04:12:33,439 --> 04:12:36,239
approved, love to work with the

5393
04:12:34,800 --> 04:12:37,760
neighborhood. Um, I think that's been

5394
04:12:36,239 --> 04:12:39,760
the message that they've sent the entire

5395
04:12:37,760 --> 04:12:41,120
time as well. Uh, we understand general

5396
04:12:39,760 --> 04:12:43,520
opposition. and it's hard to overcome

5397
04:12:41,120 --> 04:12:45,439
that in a in a negotiation sense, but if

5398
04:12:43,520 --> 04:12:46,720
approved, uh I feel like a lot of the

5399
04:12:45,439 --> 04:12:49,520
concerns of the neighborhood can be

5400
04:12:46,720 --> 04:12:50,880
addressed. Um the applicants are

5401
04:12:49,520 --> 04:12:52,479
definitely wanting to make an investment

5402
04:12:50,880 --> 04:12:54,479
in the community and uh we're hoping

5403
04:12:52,479 --> 04:12:56,560
that uh we find the site to be a

5404
04:12:54,479 --> 04:12:58,960
suitable place for that investment in

5405
04:12:56,560 --> 04:13:00,159
the neighborhood as well. You if you

5406
04:12:58,960 --> 04:13:02,080
want to address rent, I think that was

5407
04:13:00,159 --> 04:13:05,120
the biggest question I couldn't address.

5408
04:13:02,080 --> 04:13:07,279
Uh just to answer your question about um

5409
04:13:05,120 --> 04:13:10,319
pricing and square footage, these are

5410
04:13:07,279 --> 04:13:13,920
going to be uh different size warehouses

5411
04:13:10,319 --> 04:13:16,000
based on need. Um the industry standard

5412
04:13:13,920 --> 04:13:18,960
is between 10 and 20. I know that's a

5413
04:13:16,000 --> 04:13:21,439
big margin per square foot uh for that

5414
04:13:18,960 --> 04:13:24,640
kind of space. Uh but but depending on

5415
04:13:21,439 --> 04:13:26,640
on development site it cost that's where

5416
04:13:24,640 --> 04:13:28,000
we are at just just to if I was going to

5417
04:13:26,640 --> 04:13:30,880
throw a number on there I would say

5418
04:13:28,000 --> 04:13:33,279
probably $15 a square foot is is the

5419
04:13:30,880 --> 04:13:37,520
going rate.

5420
04:13:33,279 --> 04:13:40,080
» Mhm. Any other council witch?

5421
04:13:37,520 --> 04:13:41,359
» So one, thank you for being here and

5422
04:13:40,080 --> 04:13:42,800
working through this and working with

5423
04:13:41,359 --> 04:13:45,120
the neighbors. One of the things that we

5424
04:13:42,800 --> 04:13:46,960
did here was around air quality issues.

5425
04:13:45,120 --> 04:13:48,560
And although I I don't believe your site

5426
04:13:46,960 --> 04:13:50,880
is going to generate additional air

5427
04:13:48,560 --> 04:13:52,720
quality issues, would you be open to

5428
04:13:50,880 --> 04:13:54,800
adding more trees to your site to help

5429
04:13:52,720 --> 04:13:56,720
mitigate some of the air quality issues

5430
04:13:54,800 --> 04:13:58,800
that do exist in the area?

5431
04:13:56,720 --> 04:14:01,279
» Um, absolutely. I'm a little bit of a

5432
04:13:58,800 --> 04:14:03,920
tree hugger, so yes, the more trees the

5433
04:14:01,279 --> 04:14:07,120
better. And and just to touch on that as

5434
04:14:03,920 --> 04:14:10,399
well is I completely understand the

5435
04:14:07,120 --> 04:14:13,680
community's concerns and I think that's

5436
04:14:10,399 --> 04:14:17,279
part of uh uh they should be an advocate

5437
04:14:13,680 --> 04:14:20,319
for what we doing because ours is as has

5438
04:14:17,279 --> 04:14:22,800
as low of a footprint as as you could do

5439
04:14:20,319 --> 04:14:23,920
in that site.

5440
04:14:22,800 --> 04:14:25,359
» Council President,

5441
04:14:23,920 --> 04:14:28,560
» And that's kind of where I was wanted to

5442
04:14:25,359 --> 04:14:32,080
pick up to the commissioner's point. The

5443
04:14:28,560 --> 04:14:35,199
city is underway uh with a pilot project

5444
04:14:32,080 --> 04:14:37,279
to lower uh emissions in the

5445
04:14:35,199 --> 04:14:38,960
neighborhood. There's a whole office,

5446
04:14:37,279 --> 04:14:41,279
there's a whole group that is working on

5447
04:14:38,960 --> 04:14:42,720
that. Has, and this might be even more

5448
04:14:41,279 --> 04:14:44,399
of a question for the administration,

5449
04:14:42,720 --> 04:14:47,040
has have those conversations come

5450
04:14:44,399 --> 04:14:51,520
together. Is this one of those projects

5451
04:14:47,040 --> 04:14:54,319
where how does this uh uh go into our

5452
04:14:51,520 --> 04:14:57,120
city state plan for American Edition uh

5453
04:14:54,319 --> 04:14:59,760
as it pertains to reducing emissions? Is

5454
04:14:57,120 --> 04:15:03,199
this do we see this as additive to

5455
04:14:59,760 --> 04:15:04,560
moving the ball uh uh in that way? I

5456
04:15:03,199 --> 04:15:06,640
just thought it was a that was the

5457
04:15:04,560 --> 04:15:08,560
fairest of the points that I heard that

5458
04:15:06,640 --> 04:15:10,239
there is a a whole there we have people

5459
04:15:08,560 --> 04:15:15,399
on staff specifically for American

5460
04:15:10,239 --> 04:15:15,399
edition around uh admission.

5461
04:15:16,720 --> 04:15:22,479
» Um I I apologize. What What was the

5462
04:15:19,840 --> 04:15:25,120
question? I'm sorry. Has has there been

5463
04:15:22,479 --> 04:15:26,720
any conversation with the uh team at

5464
04:15:25,120 --> 04:15:28,319
utilities who's working or I guess

5465
04:15:26,720 --> 04:15:29,279
they're now they're at uh

5466
04:15:28,319 --> 04:15:31,040
» Diversity inclusion

5467
04:15:29,279 --> 04:15:34,080
» Odi

5468
04:15:31,040 --> 04:15:36,239
uh around impacts like does this go

5469
04:15:34,080 --> 04:15:39,600
against or is it supportive is there

5470
04:15:36,239 --> 04:15:42,560
it's a it's a broader question but

5471
04:15:39,600 --> 04:15:44,159
» Um so thank you for the question I'm

5472
04:15:42,560 --> 04:15:44,640
sorry I do not know the answer to that

5473
04:15:44,159 --> 04:15:46,319
question

5474
04:15:44,640 --> 04:15:48,880
» So council president I think to that

5475
04:15:46,319 --> 04:15:52,640
point if if I can sort of wrap things up

5476
04:15:48,880 --> 04:15:54,159
here for for a moment Um, you know, I

5477
04:15:52,640 --> 04:15:55,760
think as I was chatting with

5478
04:15:54,159 --> 04:15:59,439
Commissioner Williams, like I actually

5479
04:15:55,760 --> 04:16:02,479
view uh what is being before the body,

5480
04:15:59,439 --> 04:16:04,319
uh, as a way to prevent additional heavy

5481
04:16:02,479 --> 04:16:07,359
manufacturing uses that I think the

5482
04:16:04,319 --> 04:16:09,760
community fears. Um, and rightly so,

5483
04:16:07,359 --> 04:16:11,760
given their experiences and air quality

5484
04:16:09,760 --> 04:16:12,800
concerns within this area. Um, I think

5485
04:16:11,760 --> 04:16:14,159
to your point, Council President, it's

5486
04:16:12,800 --> 04:16:16,640
actually an extremely fair question to

5487
04:16:14,159 --> 04:16:18,960
be asked out loud if this city has uh

5488
04:16:16,640 --> 04:16:21,359
assigned staff specifically to American

5489
04:16:18,960 --> 04:16:23,520
Edition related to these issues. Um, I

5490
04:16:21,359 --> 04:16:25,279
think we should postpone this a week um

5491
04:16:23,520 --> 04:16:28,640
to get that that specific question

5492
04:16:25,279 --> 04:16:31,920
answered um in order to make sure the

5493
04:16:28,640 --> 04:16:33,359
residents have a better connection um to

5494
04:16:31,920 --> 04:16:35,760
you they've been working very closely

5495
04:16:33,359 --> 04:16:37,840
with folks at the city of Columbus and I

5496
04:16:35,760 --> 04:16:40,000
think it would be without having someone

5497
04:16:37,840 --> 04:16:41,520
here to speak I think directly to that

5498
04:16:40,000 --> 04:16:43,279
uh I think I would be more comfortable

5499
04:16:41,520 --> 04:16:47,760
waiting a week for this body to take up

5500
04:16:43,279 --> 04:16:49,600
this vote um on this. So, um, I want to

5501
04:16:47,760 --> 04:16:50,800
just open up to my colleagues to see if

5502
04:16:49,600 --> 04:16:52,399
they had anything that they would like

5503
04:16:50,800 --> 04:16:53,359
to say on that, uh, before I move to

5504
04:16:52,399 --> 04:16:55,600
postpone.

5505
04:16:53,359 --> 04:16:58,239
» I agree. I think that there are multiple

5506
04:16:55,600 --> 04:17:00,880
I think there are multiple places where

5507
04:16:58,239 --> 04:17:02,399
additional conversation could happen to

5508
04:17:00,880 --> 04:17:03,920
allow for the community to be more

5509
04:17:02,399 --> 04:17:06,880
comfortable if they're going to get more

5510
04:17:03,920 --> 04:17:08,560
comfortable. Um, and it sounds like the

5511
04:17:06,880 --> 04:17:10,239
applicant is agreeable to that. I would

5512
04:17:08,560 --> 04:17:12,880
like to see some more engagement on that

5513
04:17:10,239 --> 04:17:14,960
front in addition to some answers to the

5514
04:17:12,880 --> 04:17:16,880
question about net zero before I am

5515
04:17:14,960 --> 04:17:18,960
comfortable uh moving forward with a

5516
04:17:16,880 --> 04:17:21,600
vote.

5517
04:17:18,960 --> 04:17:23,920
» Uh at this point I move to postpone.

5518
04:17:21,600 --> 04:17:26,800
» Second

5519
04:17:23,920 --> 04:17:29,680
Bank Rosa de Padilla de a Dorren Green

5520
04:17:26,800 --> 04:17:30,560
Remy Ross vice president Harden

5521
04:17:29,680 --> 04:17:33,040
» Postponed.

5522
04:17:30,560 --> 04:17:35,520
» Thank you. Uh, next we have ordinance

5523
04:17:33,040 --> 04:17:37,199
number 1716-2026

5524
04:17:35,520 --> 04:17:39,920
to reszone 181 Business Center Drive

5525
04:17:37,199 --> 04:17:41,600
being 2.7 plus 2.76 plus acres located

5526
04:17:39,920 --> 04:17:43,760
in the northwest corner of business

5527
04:17:41,600 --> 04:17:45,279
central drive in North Bryce Road from N

5528
04:17:43,760 --> 04:17:46,720
manufacturing district to CPD commercial

5529
04:17:45,279 --> 04:17:48,239
plan development district. Second is the

5530
04:17:46,720 --> 04:17:49,439
one undeveloped personal request council

5531
04:17:48,239 --> 04:17:51,199
for reszoning will allow limited

5532
04:17:49,439 --> 04:17:52,720
commercial development including fuel

5533
04:17:51,199 --> 04:17:54,000
sales. The proposal has approved from

5534
04:17:52,720 --> 04:17:56,720
city staff development commission and

5535
04:17:54,000 --> 04:17:57,920
the far east area commission. Uh I

5536
04:17:56,720 --> 04:18:01,279
unless there's any questions or comments

5537
04:17:57,920 --> 04:18:03,359
from my colleagues I move for passage.

5538
04:18:01,279 --> 04:18:05,279
Banks Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawa

5539
04:18:03,359 --> 04:18:05,680
Dors Green Remy Ross vice president

5540
04:18:05,279 --> 04:18:06,159
Harden

5541
04:18:05,680 --> 04:18:07,520
» Pass.

5542
04:18:06,159 --> 04:18:10,720
» Thank you. Next I have ordinance number

5543
04:18:07,520 --> 04:18:13,040
1768-26 reszone 1700 long long road

5544
04:18:10,720 --> 04:18:15,439
being 2.25 plus acres located on the

5545
04:18:13,040 --> 04:18:18,000
north side of long road 150 plus feet

5546
04:18:15,439 --> 04:18:20,640
east of widening path driving from Rural

5547
04:18:18,000 --> 04:18:22,080
District to LLD limited part residential

5548
04:18:20,640 --> 04:18:23,760
district site consists of two parcels

5549
04:18:22,080 --> 04:18:25,359
one develop dwelling the other

5550
04:18:23,760 --> 04:18:27,359
undeveloped. The requested reszoning

5551
04:18:25,359 --> 04:18:28,960
will allow a 32 unit townhouse style

5552
04:18:27,359 --> 04:18:30,319
development. The proposal approved from

5553
04:18:28,960 --> 04:18:32,080
city staff the development commission

5554
04:18:30,319 --> 04:18:33,359
the greater southeast area commission to

5555
04:18:32,080 --> 04:18:36,479
my colleagues to question comments.

5556
04:18:33,359 --> 04:18:38,880
Seeing none move for passage

5557
04:18:36,479 --> 04:18:40,800
» Banks temper rosia de a car dorren green

5558
04:18:38,880 --> 04:18:41,279
screen remy ros vice president Harden

5559
04:18:40,800 --> 04:18:44,080
» Pass.

5560
04:18:41,279 --> 04:18:46,399
» Thank you. Next we have 1772-2026 to

5561
04:18:44,080 --> 04:18:48,000
reszone 2500 airport drive being 5.5

5562
04:18:46,399 --> 04:18:50,319
plus acres located on the north side of

5563
04:18:48,000 --> 04:18:53,040
airport drive down here plus feet east

5564
04:18:50,319 --> 04:18:54,399
of north Nelson road from R1 residential

5565
04:18:53,040 --> 04:18:55,680
district to CPD commercial plan

5566
04:18:54,399 --> 04:18:58,239
development district. site consists of

5567
04:18:55,680 --> 04:18:59,600
two parcels deal with a retail nursery

5568
04:18:58,239 --> 04:19:01,840
and requested reszoning will allow an

5569
04:18:59,600 --> 04:19:04,000
extended state hotel of one building of

5570
04:19:01,840 --> 04:19:05,439
up to 130 suites proposal approved from

5571
04:19:04,000 --> 04:19:07,760
city staff development commission and

5572
04:19:05,439 --> 04:19:09,199
the northeast area commission unless

5573
04:19:07,760 --> 04:19:10,479
there's any question comments I move for

5574
04:19:09,199 --> 04:19:11,680
passage

5575
04:19:10,479 --> 04:19:14,159
» Cler please call the role

5576
04:19:11,680 --> 04:19:16,159
» Thanks Tim Rosa de podia de a dorrence

5577
04:19:14,159 --> 04:19:16,640
green remy ros president

5578
04:19:16,159 --> 04:19:19,520
» Pass

5579
04:19:16,640 --> 04:19:23,520
» Thank you next I have ordinance 1805-226

5580
04:19:19,520 --> 04:19:25,680
zone 274 east 1st avenue being 6.944

5581
04:19:23,520 --> 04:19:27,840
plus acres located northeast corner of

5582
04:19:25,680 --> 04:19:30,239
East 1st Avenue and North 16th Street

5583
04:19:27,840 --> 04:19:32,560
from N manufacturing district to UCT

5584
04:19:30,239 --> 04:19:34,159
urban uh center district set consist of

5585
04:19:32,560 --> 04:19:35,520
one parcel to both the warehouse and the

5586
04:19:34,159 --> 04:19:37,199
request of reszoning will allow a high

5587
04:19:35,520 --> 04:19:39,199
intens highintensity mixeduse

5588
04:19:37,199 --> 04:19:40,479
development the final building design

5589
04:19:39,199 --> 04:19:42,000
will be subject to a certificate of

5590
04:19:40,479 --> 04:19:43,520
appropriateness issued by the Italian

5591
04:19:42,000 --> 04:19:44,800
village commission proposals approved

5592
04:19:43,520 --> 04:19:46,560
from city staff development commission

5593
04:19:44,800 --> 04:19:48,000
and the Italian village commission

5594
04:19:46,560 --> 04:19:49,279
unless there's any questions comments I

5595
04:19:48,000 --> 04:19:50,560
move for passage

5596
04:19:49,279 --> 04:19:53,600
» Clerk please call the role

5597
04:19:50,560 --> 04:19:55,040
» Banks roa deodia de aar dors green remy

5598
04:19:53,600 --> 04:19:55,439
ros vice President Harden

5599
04:19:55,040 --> 04:19:56,720
» Passed.

5600
04:19:55,439 --> 04:19:57,920
» Thank you. Next we move from the council

5601
04:19:56,720 --> 04:19:59,680
variances. First we have ordinance

5602
04:19:57,920 --> 04:20:00,880
number 0376-2026

5603
04:19:59,680 --> 04:20:02,720
to grant a variance provision section

5604
04:20:00,880 --> 04:20:04,960
3312.21B

5605
04:20:02,720 --> 04:20:07,279
landscaping and screening 3312.271

5606
04:20:04,960 --> 04:20:09,520
parking setback line 3312.49 C require

5607
04:20:07,279 --> 04:20:12,080
parking and 333.15

5608
04:20:09,520 --> 04:20:15,279
basic computing area and 333.18 building

5609
04:20:12,080 --> 04:20:17,520
lines and 3332 uh.24 24 rear yard and

5610
04:20:15,279 --> 04:20:19,199
3332.55

5611
04:20:17,520 --> 04:20:21,279
permitted yard at Columbia City Coast

5612
04:20:19,199 --> 04:20:22,640
for property located 824 Caner Road to

5613
04:20:21,279 --> 04:20:23,840
allow reduced development standards for

5614
04:20:22,640 --> 04:20:26,000
multi-unit residential development in

5615
04:20:23,840 --> 04:20:27,279
the AR3 apartment residential district.

5616
04:20:26,000 --> 04:20:29,279
This is the concurrent variance for

5617
04:20:27,279 --> 04:20:31,199
reszoning we heard earlier on our agenda

5618
04:20:29,279 --> 04:20:34,000
for a residential development containing

5619
04:20:31,199 --> 04:20:35,680
up to 435 apartment units. Variances

5620
04:20:34,000 --> 04:20:37,199
reduced landscaping screening building

5621
04:20:35,680 --> 04:20:39,359
and parking setback lines require

5622
04:20:37,199 --> 04:20:40,720
parking in rear yard and perimeter yard

5623
04:20:39,359 --> 04:20:42,239
and increased lot coverage are included

5624
04:20:40,720 --> 04:20:43,600
in the request. There's no air

5625
04:20:42,239 --> 04:20:45,760
commission or civic association with

5626
04:20:43,600 --> 04:20:47,680
approval. The proposal is approval from

5627
04:20:45,760 --> 04:20:49,120
city staff. There's a proposed amendment

5628
04:20:47,680 --> 04:20:51,120
to this ordinance as the applicants

5629
04:20:49,120 --> 04:20:53,199
attorney submitted updated site plans

5630
04:20:51,120 --> 04:20:55,120
with the only revisions being the title

5631
04:20:53,199 --> 04:20:56,640
of the plans and the applicant listed.

5632
04:20:55,120 --> 04:20:58,319
Uh the updated site plans are included

5633
04:20:56,640 --> 04:21:00,239
in legislation in section three and the

5634
04:20:58,319 --> 04:21:02,159
language ordinance has been revised.

5635
04:21:00,239 --> 04:21:03,840
There are no other changes to the

5636
04:21:02,159 --> 04:21:05,600
development proposed. I first move to

5637
04:21:03,840 --> 04:21:06,800
accept the entire step into evidence as

5638
04:21:05,600 --> 04:21:08,800
an exhibit.

5639
04:21:06,800 --> 04:21:11,120
» Please call the role. Banks Perosa de

5640
04:21:08,800 --> 04:21:11,920
Padilla de Aar Dors Green Remy Ross Vice

5641
04:21:11,120 --> 04:21:12,399
President Harden

5642
04:21:11,920 --> 04:21:13,760
» Accept it.

5643
04:21:12,399 --> 04:21:15,439
» Thank you. Move to adopt the final staff

5644
04:21:13,760 --> 04:21:16,159
as the finance of council. Clerk please

5645
04:21:15,439 --> 04:21:18,720
call the role.

5646
04:21:16,159 --> 04:21:20,399
» Banks temposa de padilla de a dorsreen

5647
04:21:18,720 --> 04:21:20,880
reie ros vice president Harden.

5648
04:21:20,399 --> 04:21:22,960
» Adopt it

5649
04:21:20,880 --> 04:21:24,080
» Again. Move to amend the clerk.

5650
04:21:22,960 --> 04:21:26,720
» Clerk please call the role.

5651
04:21:24,080 --> 04:21:28,640
» Banks temper roa de padilla de a dors

5652
04:21:26,720 --> 04:21:29,680
reie ros vice president Harden.

5653
04:21:28,640 --> 04:21:31,760
» Uh amend it.

5654
04:21:29,680 --> 04:21:33,600
» And finally move for passage as amended.

5655
04:21:31,760 --> 04:21:35,920
» Clerk please call the role. Banks Timber

5656
04:21:33,600 --> 04:21:37,359
Rosa de Padilla de Aower Dors Green Remy

5657
04:21:35,920 --> 04:21:37,840
Ross vice president Harden

5658
04:21:37,359 --> 04:21:39,279
» Fast.

5659
04:21:37,840 --> 04:21:41,520
» Thank you. Next we have ordinance

5660
04:21:39,279 --> 04:21:43,439
1764-226 grand variance provision

5661
04:21:41,520 --> 04:21:45,279
section 3332.039

5662
04:21:43,439 --> 04:21:46,880
R4 residential district of the Columbus

5663
04:21:45,279 --> 04:21:48,720
city closed for the property located in

5664
04:21:46,880 --> 04:21:50,640
West Park Avenue to allow a nonprofit

5665
04:21:48,720 --> 04:21:52,880
organization with associated retail

5666
04:21:50,640 --> 04:21:54,720
office and assembly space in the R4

5667
04:21:52,880 --> 04:21:56,159
residential district. Um, this site

5668
04:21:54,720 --> 04:21:57,359
consists of two parcels developed with a

5669
04:21:56,159 --> 04:21:58,640
former religious facility and the

5670
04:21:57,359 --> 04:22:00,720
request council of variance will allow a

5671
04:21:58,640 --> 04:22:02,479
nonprofit organization and associated

5672
04:22:00,720 --> 04:22:03,920
retail office and assembly uses. A

5673
04:22:02,479 --> 04:22:05,520
council of variance is required because

5674
04:22:03,920 --> 04:22:07,520
the current zoning district only allows

5675
04:22:05,520 --> 04:22:09,199
limited accessory commercial uses such

5676
04:22:07,520 --> 04:22:11,120
as daycarees, food pantries if they're

5677
04:22:09,199 --> 04:22:12,640
associated with a religious facility.

5678
04:22:11,120 --> 04:22:14,640
Proposal is approved from city staff and

5679
04:22:12,640 --> 04:22:15,920
the frankincon area commission. I first

5680
04:22:14,640 --> 04:22:17,920
move to accept the entire staff report

5681
04:22:15,920 --> 04:22:19,680
into evidence as an exhibit.

5682
04:22:17,920 --> 04:22:22,159
» Please call the role. Banks Temper Rosa

5683
04:22:19,680 --> 04:22:23,120
de Padilla de A Dorren Green Remy Ross

5684
04:22:22,159 --> 04:22:23,520
Vice President Harden

5685
04:22:23,120 --> 04:22:24,720
» Accept it.

5686
04:22:23,520 --> 04:22:26,239
» Thank you. Next move to adopt the fine

5687
04:22:24,720 --> 04:22:27,439
of staff as the finance of councel.

5688
04:22:26,239 --> 04:22:29,840
» Clerk please call the role.

5689
04:22:27,439 --> 04:22:31,760
» Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

5690
04:22:29,840 --> 04:22:32,399
green remy ros vice president Harden

5691
04:22:31,760 --> 04:22:34,080
» Adopt it.

5692
04:22:32,399 --> 04:22:35,040
» Fly move for passage.

5693
04:22:34,080 --> 04:22:37,359
» Please call the ro.

5694
04:22:35,040 --> 04:22:39,359
» Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

5695
04:22:37,359 --> 04:22:39,840
screen remy ros vice president Harden.

5696
04:22:39,359 --> 04:22:41,120
» Pass.

5697
04:22:39,840 --> 04:22:43,359
» Thank you. Next we have ordinance

5698
04:22:41,120 --> 04:22:45,359
1769-226 to grant appearance provisions

5699
04:22:43,359 --> 04:22:47,520
section 3333.18 building lines in

5700
04:22:45,359 --> 04:22:48,880
3333.255 255 Primary Yard at the

5701
04:22:47,520 --> 04:22:50,800
Columbus DEO is a property located at

5702
04:22:48,880 --> 04:22:52,479
1700 Long Drive to reduce the required

5703
04:22:50,800 --> 04:22:54,159
building setback in Primary Yard for a

5704
04:22:52,479 --> 04:22:56,880
multi-unit residential development in

5705
04:22:54,159 --> 04:22:58,560
the LLD limited apartment residential

5706
04:22:56,880 --> 04:22:59,840
district. This is another concurrent

5707
04:22:58,560 --> 04:23:01,760
variance for reszoning we considered

5708
04:22:59,840 --> 04:23:03,680
earlier in tonight's agenda for the 32

5709
04:23:01,760 --> 04:23:05,279
unit townhouse style development. The

5710
04:23:03,680 --> 04:23:07,920
request variance will allow reduced

5711
04:23:05,279 --> 04:23:10,239
building setback lines along Long Road

5712
04:23:07,920 --> 04:23:12,560
from 40 to 30 ft and reduce perimeter

5713
04:23:10,239 --> 04:23:14,159
yard from 25 ft to 9 on the eastern

5714
04:23:12,560 --> 04:23:15,199
boundary of the site. A variance is

5715
04:23:14,159 --> 04:23:16,720
required because the proposal

5716
04:23:15,199 --> 04:23:18,399
development cannot meet all development

5717
04:23:16,720 --> 04:23:20,239
standards of the zoning district but

5718
04:23:18,399 --> 04:23:21,840
results in a better site design and

5719
04:23:20,239 --> 04:23:23,680
centralized open space and preservation

5720
04:23:21,840 --> 04:23:25,040
of trees. The proposal is approved in

5721
04:23:23,680 --> 04:23:26,800
city staff and the greater southeast

5722
04:23:25,040 --> 04:23:28,560
area commission. I first moved to accept

5723
04:23:26,800 --> 04:23:29,279
the entire staff report into Evans as an

5724
04:23:28,560 --> 04:23:30,560
exhibit.

5725
04:23:29,279 --> 04:23:32,960
» Clerk, please call the role.

5726
04:23:30,560 --> 04:23:34,800
» Thanks Timber Rosa Deodia de Aar Doris

5727
04:23:32,960 --> 04:23:35,439
Greenie Ross Vice President Harden.

5728
04:23:34,800 --> 04:23:38,600
» Postponed.

5729
04:23:35,439 --> 04:23:38,600
» Thank you.

5730
04:23:38,640 --> 04:23:41,359
» Accepted.

5731
04:23:39,680 --> 04:23:41,840
» Accepted. I'm like huh?

5732
04:23:41,359 --> 04:23:42,080
» I'm just getting [clears throat] that

5733
04:23:41,840 --> 04:23:43,279
out.

5734
04:23:42,080 --> 04:23:44,880
» Thank you. Thank you, Council President.

5735
04:23:43,279 --> 04:23:46,159
Has been accepted. I now move to adopt

5736
04:23:44,880 --> 04:23:46,960
the fines of staff as the fines of

5737
04:23:46,159 --> 04:23:48,319
councel.

5738
04:23:46,960 --> 04:23:50,800
» Clark, please call the role.

5739
04:23:48,319 --> 04:23:52,880
» Bankston Barrosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

5740
04:23:50,800 --> 04:23:54,000
Green. Remy Ros, President Harton.

5741
04:23:52,880 --> 04:23:57,199
» Adopt it.

5742
04:23:54,000 --> 04:23:58,399
» Um, and finally, I move for passage.

5743
04:23:57,199 --> 04:24:00,800
» Clark, please call the role.

5744
04:23:58,399 --> 04:24:02,720
» Bankston Barosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

5745
04:24:00,800 --> 04:24:03,199
Green Remy Ross White, President Harden.

5746
04:24:02,720 --> 04:24:04,880
» Pass.

5747
04:24:03,199 --> 04:24:07,199
» Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

5748
04:24:04,880 --> 04:24:10,239
180-226 grand variance provisions of

5749
04:24:07,199 --> 04:24:12,800
section 333 2.039 R4 residential

5750
04:24:10,239 --> 04:24:14,319
district 3312.21D. 21D landscaping

5751
04:24:12,800 --> 04:24:17,680
screening the Columbus City properly

5752
04:24:14,319 --> 04:24:19,439
located at 128-130 Northampton Avenue to

5753
04:24:17,680 --> 04:24:20,800
allow rooming house with no parking lot

5754
04:24:19,439 --> 04:24:22,640
screening in the R4 residential

5755
04:24:20,800 --> 04:24:23,920
district. Site consists of a two-unit

5756
04:24:22,640 --> 04:24:24,880
dwelling. The request of council

5757
04:24:23,920 --> 04:24:26,319
variance will allow the existing

5758
04:24:24,880 --> 04:24:28,239
dwelling to be converted into a rooming

5759
04:24:26,319 --> 04:24:29,600
house with up to eight total occupants.

5760
04:24:28,239 --> 04:24:30,800
A council variance is required because

5761
04:24:29,600 --> 04:24:33,520
the current zoning district does not

5762
04:24:30,800 --> 04:24:35,520
allow rooming houses. A variance to not

5763
04:24:33,520 --> 04:24:37,439
provide parking lot screening is also

5764
04:24:35,520 --> 04:24:39,199
included in the request. proposal will

5765
04:24:37,439 --> 04:24:40,880
use will provide a short-term housing

5766
04:24:39,199 --> 04:24:43,120
option for individ individuals utilizing

5767
04:24:40,880 --> 04:24:44,800
nearport airport or for working at job

5768
04:24:43,120 --> 04:24:46,560
centers in the surrounding area.

5769
04:24:44,800 --> 04:24:48,080
Proposal is approved from city staff in

5770
04:24:46,560 --> 04:24:49,920
the mid east area commission. I first

5771
04:24:48,080 --> 04:24:53,600
move to accept the entire staff report

5772
04:24:49,920 --> 04:24:55,680
into Evans as an exhibit.

5773
04:24:53,600 --> 04:24:57,600
» Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de AOA

5774
04:24:55,680 --> 04:24:58,800
Doris Green Remy Ross Vice President

5775
04:24:57,600 --> 04:25:00,479
Harden.

5776
04:24:58,800 --> 04:25:02,560
» Next move to adopt the fin staff finds

5777
04:25:00,479 --> 04:25:05,040
council.

5778
04:25:02,560 --> 04:25:07,439
Banks temper roa de padia de a dorren

5779
04:25:05,040 --> 04:25:10,159
green reie ros vice president Harden

5780
04:25:07,439 --> 04:25:12,560
» Finally move for passage

5781
04:25:10,159 --> 04:25:15,040
» Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

5782
04:25:12,560 --> 04:25:17,840
green remy ross vice president Harden

5783
04:25:15,040 --> 04:25:20,640
» And finally we have ordinance 1822-226

5784
04:25:17,840 --> 04:25:23,040
grant variance provisions section 33631

5785
04:25:20,640 --> 04:25:25,439
and manufacturing district 33705

5786
04:25:23,040 --> 04:25:28,239
permitted uses in 3309.14 height

5787
04:25:25,439 --> 04:25:30,720
districts in 33121 D1B landscaping and

5788
04:25:28,239 --> 04:25:33,600
screening 3312.49 require parking

5789
04:25:30,720 --> 04:25:34,960
3363.24 24 building lines and in an end

5790
04:25:33,600 --> 04:25:37,199
manufacturing district of the Columbus

5791
04:25:34,960 --> 04:25:38,640
city coast for property located at 2150

5792
04:25:37,199 --> 04:25:39,840
in this road allow mixed units

5793
04:25:38,640 --> 04:25:41,600
development with reduced development

5794
04:25:39,840 --> 04:25:43,120
standards the LM limited manufacturing

5795
04:25:41,600 --> 04:25:45,120
district to provoke ordinance number

5796
04:25:43,120 --> 04:25:47,920
3060-224

5797
04:25:45,120 --> 04:25:50,880
passed on November 18 2024 site consist

5798
04:25:47,920 --> 04:25:53,359
of one parcel developed with two two

5799
04:25:50,880 --> 04:25:54,880
monopole telecommunications antennas

5800
04:25:53,359 --> 04:25:56,479
site is subject to council variance

5801
04:25:54,880 --> 04:25:58,399
CV24-100

5802
04:25:56,479 --> 04:26:00,159
passed November 18th 2024 which allowed

5803
04:25:58,399 --> 04:26:02,239
a multi-unit residential development

5804
04:26:00,159 --> 04:26:04,319
containing up to7 73 units. They

5805
04:26:02,239 --> 04:26:05,680
requested uh updates the previously

5806
04:26:04,319 --> 04:26:08,080
approved project and allows three

5807
04:26:05,680 --> 04:26:10,560
apartment buildings totaling 30 138

5808
04:26:08,080 --> 04:26:11,760
dwelling units, 15 detached single unit

5809
04:26:10,560 --> 04:26:13,760
dwellings and maintains the two

5810
04:26:11,760 --> 04:26:16,000
telecommunications antennas. Uh

5811
04:26:13,760 --> 04:26:17,439
additionally, the proposal the proposed

5812
04:26:16,000 --> 04:26:18,960
resident development will be subject to

5813
04:26:17,439 --> 04:26:20,800
competitive funding by the Ohio Housing

5814
04:26:18,960 --> 04:26:22,319
Finance Agency which requires certain

5815
04:26:20,800 --> 04:26:24,399
land attributes including compliant

5816
04:26:22,319 --> 04:26:26,720
zoning. Proposal is approved some city

5817
04:26:24,399 --> 04:26:28,319
staff the north lynen area commission. I

5818
04:26:26,720 --> 04:26:31,359
first move to accept the entire staff

5819
04:26:28,319 --> 04:26:34,560
into evidence as an exhibit. Follow

5820
04:26:31,359 --> 04:26:36,080
» Banks Timber Aar Doran Green Remy Ross

5821
04:26:34,560 --> 04:26:37,359
Vice President Harden.

5822
04:26:36,080 --> 04:26:39,840
» Thank you. Next move to adopt the five

5823
04:26:37,359 --> 04:26:43,279
staffs council.

5824
04:26:39,840 --> 04:26:45,520
» Banks Timber Aar Doran Green Remy Ross

5825
04:26:43,279 --> 04:26:48,760
Vice President Harden

5826
04:26:45,520 --> 04:26:48,760
move for passage

5827
04:26:49,520 --> 04:26:54,159
a dors Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

5828
04:26:52,960 --> 04:26:57,199
» And council president that's all we have

5829
04:26:54,159 --> 04:26:59,120
this week in tonight in zoning agenda.

5830
04:26:57,199 --> 04:27:01,120
» Thank you Mr. Chair. See no further

5831
04:26:59,120 --> 04:27:02,159
business there motion to adjurnn.

5832
04:27:01,120 --> 04:27:05,520
» Clerk please call the role.

5833
04:27:02,159 --> 04:27:08,920
» Banks dear Dor screen remy Ross vice

5834
04:27:05,520 --> 04:27:08,920
president Harden.

5835
04:27:17,859 --> 04:27:19,879
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5836
04:27:46,680 --> 04:27:48,699
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5837
04:28:00,435 --> 04:28:02,454
[music]

5838
04:28:08,295 --> 04:28:10,314
[music]

5839
04:28:18,120 --> 04:28:20,140
[music]

5840
04:28:43,665 --> 04:28:45,685
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5841
04:28:53,490 --> 04:28:55,510
[music]

5842
04:28:58,730 --> 04:29:00,750
[music]

5843
04:29:11,176 --> 04:29:13,195
[music]

5844
04:29:17,726 --> 04:29:19,745
[music]

5845
04:29:20,880 --> 04:29:24,279
» Heat. Heat.

5846
04:29:39,341 --> 04:29:41,360
» [music]

5847
04:29:51,786 --> 04:29:53,806
[music]

5848
04:29:59,120 --> 04:30:02,120
» Heat. Heat.

5849
04:30:34,880 --> 04:30:37,960
Heat. Heat.

5850
04:30:44,880 --> 04:30:47,517
Look at you. [music]

5851
04:31:07,840 --> 04:31:10,840
Heat. Heat.

5852
04:31:20,212 --> 04:31:22,231
[music]

5853
04:31:31,920 --> 04:31:33,920
Heat up

5854
04:31:54,272 --> 04:31:58,199
» [music]

5855
04:31:55,199 --> 04:31:58,199
» Here.

5856
04:32:08,399 --> 04:32:11,399
Yeah.

5857
04:32:21,439 --> 04:32:24,439
Yeah.

5858
04:32:39,279 --> 04:32:42,279
Heat.

5859
04:32:44,560 --> 04:32:47,560
Heat.

5860
04:32:57,439 --> 04:33:00,439
Heat.

5861
04:33:02,394 --> 04:33:04,413
[music]

5862
04:33:24,008 --> 04:33:26,027
» [music]

5863
04:34:00,160 --> 04:34:03,160
» Heat.

5864
04:34:10,959 --> 04:34:13,959
Heat.

5865
04:34:41,680 --> 04:34:44,760
Heat. Hey, Heat.

5866
04:35:14,480 --> 04:35:17,480
Heat. Heat.

5867
04:35:35,439 --> 04:35:38,439
Heat. Heat.

5868
04:36:26,320 --> 04:36:29,320
Heat.

5869
04:36:30,031 --> 04:36:32,051
[music]

5870
04:36:35,926 --> 04:36:37,945
[music]

5871
04:36:42,000 --> 04:36:45,000
Heat.

5872
04:37:13,920 --> 04:37:20,199
in love. Hey

5873
04:37:17,199 --> 04:37:20,199
Heat. Heat.

5874
04:37:38,480 --> 04:37:41,480
Heat.

5875
04:37:56,160 --> 04:37:59,160
Heat.

5876
04:38:02,160 --> 04:38:05,160
Heat. Heat. N.

5877
04:38:50,203 --> 04:38:52,223
» [whistles]

5878
04:39:05,922 --> 04:39:07,941
[music]

5879
04:39:12,320 --> 04:39:15,320
» Hey, hey, hey.

5880
04:39:57,040 --> 04:40:00,040
feeling

5881
04:40:00,718 --> 04:40:03,718
down.

5882
04:40:05,528 --> 04:40:07,546
» [music]

5883
04:40:28,560 --> 04:40:31,560
» Hey,

5884
04:40:59,920 --> 04:41:02,920
Hey.

5885
04:41:27,404 --> 04:41:29,424
» [music]

5886
04:41:36,574 --> 04:41:38,594
[music]

5887
04:41:55,120 --> 04:41:58,440
» Hey everybody,

5888
04:42:00,154 --> 04:42:02,174
» [music]

5889
04:42:19,804 --> 04:42:21,824
[music]

5890
04:42:32,560 --> 04:42:36,480
» Sir, please call the role.

5891
04:42:33,840 --> 04:42:37,040
» Banks Timber Rosa de Podia de Aar Dors.

5892
04:42:36,480 --> 04:42:40,000
» Yes.

5893
04:42:37,040 --> 04:42:41,760
» Green Remy boss vice president Harden.

5894
04:42:40,000 --> 04:42:43,760
» We will uh go back to the finance

5895
04:42:41,760 --> 04:42:45,280
committee where council member uh banks

5896
04:42:43,760 --> 04:42:46,718
and chairs council the floor is yours.

5897
04:42:45,280 --> 04:42:47,840
» Thank you council president. First up in

5898
04:42:46,718 --> 04:42:49,360
the finance and governance committee for

5899
04:42:47,840 --> 04:42:51,760
second read, we have resolution

5900
04:42:49,360 --> 04:42:54,480
0128X-2026

5901
04:42:51,760 --> 04:42:56,480
to adopt the 2027 tax budget and to

5902
04:42:54,480 --> 04:42:58,480
authorize and direct the city auditor to

5903
04:42:56,480 --> 04:43:00,240
submit said budget to the county and to

5904
04:42:58,480 --> 04:43:02,240
declare an emergency. The county tax

5905
04:43:00,240 --> 04:43:04,400
budget is a statemandated process that

5906
04:43:02,240 --> 04:43:06,080
we and our city auditor follow to

5907
04:43:04,400 --> 04:43:07,920
receive our city portion of local

5908
04:43:06,080 --> 04:43:10,480
government funds. Statute requires that

5909
04:43:07,920 --> 04:43:12,878
the tax budget legislation appear on two

5910
04:43:10,480 --> 04:43:14,958
council agendas and that we hold a

5911
04:43:12,878 --> 04:43:16,638
hearing to discuss. As we've done in

5912
04:43:14,958 --> 04:43:18,718
previous years, I will postpone this

5913
04:43:16,638 --> 04:43:20,480
resolution to the June 29th council

5914
04:43:18,718 --> 04:43:22,638
meeting where we will conduct a public

5915
04:43:20,480 --> 04:43:23,920
hearing prior to the vote for passage.

5916
04:43:22,638 --> 04:43:25,760
Seeing no questions or comments from my

5917
04:43:23,920 --> 04:43:27,680
colleagues, I move for pass. I'm I move

5918
04:43:25,760 --> 04:43:29,920
I'm sorry to postpone resolution

5919
04:43:27,680 --> 04:43:32,400
0128x-2026

5920
04:43:29,920 --> 04:43:32,878
to June 29th council meeting.

5921
04:43:32,400 --> 04:43:34,240
» Second.

5922
04:43:32,878 --> 04:43:37,440
» Clerk, please call the role.

5923
04:43:34,240 --> 04:43:39,760
» Bangarosa de Padilla de Aka Dors Green

5924
04:43:37,440 --> 04:43:41,760
Remy Ross President Harden

5925
04:43:39,760 --> 04:43:43,280
» Postponed. Next, we have ordinance

5926
04:43:41,760 --> 04:43:44,718
1274-20226

5927
04:43:43,280 --> 04:43:46,240
to authorize the director of finance and

5928
04:43:44,718 --> 04:43:48,320
management to associate all general

5929
04:43:46,240 --> 04:43:50,240
budget reservations resulting from this

5930
04:43:48,320 --> 04:43:52,000
ordinance with the appropriate universal

5931
04:43:50,240 --> 04:43:54,638
term contract purchase agreement and to

5932
04:43:52,000 --> 04:43:56,638
establish related purchase orders for

5933
04:43:54,638 --> 04:43:58,080
automative repair services for the fleet

5934
04:43:56,638 --> 04:44:00,400
management division to authorize the

5935
04:43:58,080 --> 04:44:01,840
expenditure of $1 million from the fleet

5936
04:44:00,400 --> 04:44:03,040
management operating fund and to declare

5937
04:44:01,840 --> 04:44:04,798
an emergency. This legislation

5938
04:44:03,040 --> 04:44:07,200
authorizes the fleet management division

5939
04:44:04,798 --> 04:44:09,440
to establish various purchase orders for

5940
04:44:07,200 --> 04:44:11,120
the purchase of services to aid in the

5941
04:44:09,440 --> 04:44:12,958
repair and upkeep of city-owned

5942
04:44:11,120 --> 04:44:14,958
vehicles. This will keep the city's

5943
04:44:12,958 --> 04:44:16,560
fleet of approximately 6,000 vehicles in

5944
04:44:14,958 --> 04:44:18,480
operation. Department of Finance and

5945
04:44:16,560 --> 04:44:20,320
Management Fleet Division has been

5946
04:44:18,480 --> 04:44:22,160
steadily dealing with an increased

5947
04:44:20,320 --> 04:44:24,160
number of city vehicles to service as

5948
04:44:22,160 --> 04:44:26,000
well as the rising cost of services,

5949
04:44:24,160 --> 04:44:26,878
materials, and repairs. Seeing no

5950
04:44:26,000 --> 04:44:28,480
questions or comments from my

5951
04:44:26,878 --> 04:44:30,560
colleagues, I move for passage.

5952
04:44:28,480 --> 04:44:33,440
» Cler, please call the role. Banks timber

5953
04:44:30,560 --> 04:44:33,840
de a cars green rooms vice president

5954
04:44:33,440 --> 04:44:36,958
Harden

5955
04:44:33,840 --> 04:44:38,400
» Pass. Next we have ordinance 1382-2026

5956
04:44:36,958 --> 04:44:39,840
to authorize the director of finance and

5957
04:44:38,400 --> 04:44:41,520
management to associate all general

5958
04:44:39,840 --> 04:44:43,360
budget reservation resulting from the

5959
04:44:41,520 --> 04:44:44,718
this ordinance with the appropriate

5960
04:44:43,360 --> 04:44:46,878
universal term contract purchase

5961
04:44:44,718 --> 04:44:48,958
agreements and to establish related

5962
04:44:46,878 --> 04:44:50,480
purchase orders for automotive parts for

5963
04:44:48,958 --> 04:44:53,040
the fleet management division to

5964
04:44:50,480 --> 04:44:54,958
authorize expenditure of $3.2 million

5965
04:44:53,040 --> 04:44:56,400
from the fleet management operating fund

5966
04:44:54,958 --> 04:44:57,680
and to declare an emergency. This

5967
04:44:56,400 --> 04:44:59,200
legislation authorizes the fleet

5968
04:44:57,680 --> 04:45:01,360
management division to establish various

5969
04:44:59,200 --> 04:45:03,280
purchase orders for the acquisition of

5970
04:45:01,360 --> 04:45:05,440
vehicles parts from previously

5971
04:45:03,280 --> 04:45:06,958
established universal term contracts.

5972
04:45:05,440 --> 04:45:08,480
These parts are used by the fleet

5973
04:45:06,958 --> 04:45:10,400
management division to service and

5974
04:45:08,480 --> 04:45:12,718
repair the city's fleet of over 6,000

5975
04:45:10,400 --> 04:45:15,120
vehicles. The fleet management uh

5976
04:45:12,718 --> 04:45:16,958
processes over 30,000 work orders

5977
04:45:15,120 --> 04:45:18,958
annually for the city's vehicles and

5978
04:45:16,958 --> 04:45:22,080
equipment and requires purchase orders

5979
04:45:18,958 --> 04:45:24,000
with over 400 vendors to help meet this

5980
04:45:22,080 --> 04:45:25,440
need. Seeing no questions or comments

5981
04:45:24,000 --> 04:45:26,160
from my colleagues, I move for passage.

5982
04:45:25,440 --> 04:45:27,040
Second clerk,

5983
04:45:26,160 --> 04:45:29,920
» Please call the role.

5984
04:45:27,040 --> 04:45:31,280
» Banks temporarosa de aar dors green remy

5985
04:45:29,920 --> 04:45:34,638
ross vice president Harden.

5986
04:45:31,280 --> 04:45:36,638
» Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1461-2026

5987
04:45:34,638 --> 04:45:38,798
to amend the 2025 capital improvements

5988
04:45:36,638 --> 04:45:41,520
budget to authorize the transfer of

5989
04:45:38,798 --> 04:45:44,080
funds within the information services go

5990
04:45:41,520 --> 04:45:45,680
bonds fund to wave the competitive

5991
04:45:44,080 --> 04:45:47,280
bidding provisions of chapter 329 of

5992
04:45:45,680 --> 04:45:48,798
Columbus city codes to authorize the

5993
04:45:47,280 --> 04:45:51,120
director of department of technology to

5994
04:45:48,798 --> 04:45:53,840
enter into contract for a governance

5995
04:45:51,120 --> 04:45:56,480
risk and compliance tool with the option

5996
04:45:53,840 --> 04:45:58,480
to renew for four additional one-year

5997
04:45:56,480 --> 04:46:00,000
terms to authorize expenditure from the

5998
04:45:58,480 --> 04:46:01,760
information services geo bonds fund and

5999
04:46:00,000 --> 04:46:03,600
to declare an emergency. The governance

6000
04:46:01,760 --> 04:46:05,200
risk and compliance tool represents a

6001
04:46:03,600 --> 04:46:07,120
strategic technology investment that

6002
04:46:05,200 --> 04:46:08,718
will establish a foundational cyber

6003
04:46:07,120 --> 04:46:11,040
security and compliance management

6004
04:46:08,718 --> 04:46:12,958
platform for the city. This solution is

6005
04:46:11,040 --> 04:46:15,920
necessary to comply with requirements in

6006
04:46:12,958 --> 04:46:17,760
Ohio Revised Code 9.64.

6007
04:46:15,920 --> 04:46:20,160
An emergency designation is necessary to

6008
04:46:17,760 --> 04:46:22,160
avoid immediate operational dist uh

6009
04:46:20,160 --> 04:46:24,958
disruption and a waiver of competitive

6010
04:46:22,160 --> 04:46:26,718
bid is requested since the solution was

6011
04:46:24,958 --> 04:46:29,200
recommended as the best fit for the

6012
04:46:26,718 --> 04:46:31,040
city's needs by its cyber security

6013
04:46:29,200 --> 04:46:32,240
consultant. Seeing no questions or

6014
04:46:31,040 --> 04:46:33,120
comments from my colleagues, I move for

6015
04:46:32,240 --> 04:46:34,160
passage.

6016
04:46:33,120 --> 04:46:35,520
» Please call the role.

6017
04:46:34,160 --> 04:46:37,520
» Thanks. Temper [clears throat] Rosa Deia

6018
04:46:35,520 --> 04:46:38,240
de Akawa Norris Green Remy Ross Vice

6019
04:46:37,520 --> 04:46:39,760
President Harden

6020
04:46:38,240 --> 04:46:41,360
» Passed. Next, we have ordinance

6021
04:46:39,760 --> 04:46:42,480
1496-2026

6022
04:46:41,360 --> 04:46:44,480
to authorize the director of Department

6023
04:46:42,480 --> 04:46:46,958
of Technology on behalf of Columbus

6024
04:46:44,480 --> 04:46:50,320
Water and Power to enter in a contract

6025
04:46:46,958 --> 04:46:51,920
with RSMUS LLP for the purchase of

6026
04:46:50,320 --> 04:46:53,520
professional services to authorize an

6027
04:46:51,920 --> 04:46:55,200
expenditure from the Department of

6028
04:46:53,520 --> 04:46:56,638
Technology Information Services

6029
04:46:55,200 --> 04:46:58,000
Operating Fund to wave the competitive

6030
04:46:56,638 --> 04:47:00,878
bidding provisions of Columbus City

6031
04:46:58,000 --> 04:47:02,400
Codes and to declare an emergency. CWP

6032
04:47:00,878 --> 04:47:04,958
is enhancing its foundational

6033
04:47:02,400 --> 04:47:06,878
operational protocols and reliance

6034
04:47:04,958 --> 04:47:09,680
strategies to implement recommendations

6035
04:47:06,878 --> 04:47:12,878
from previous previous strategic

6036
04:47:09,680 --> 04:47:14,718
assessments. RSMUS LLP will deliver

6037
04:47:12,878 --> 04:47:17,600
tailored specialized professional

6038
04:47:14,718 --> 04:47:20,080
services to implement these processes

6039
04:47:17,600 --> 04:47:22,560
across the division of water and power

6040
04:47:20,080 --> 04:47:24,400
and water reclamation. The this

6041
04:47:22,560 --> 04:47:27,040
ordinance waves the competitive bidding

6042
04:47:24,400 --> 04:47:28,798
provisions as city's best interest is

6043
04:47:27,040 --> 04:47:31,360
served by bypassing the standard formal

6044
04:47:28,798 --> 04:47:33,360
bid process to immediately address these

6045
04:47:31,360 --> 04:47:35,040
critical time-sensitive needs. Emergency

6046
04:47:33,360 --> 04:47:36,798
action is requested to allow for the

6047
04:47:35,040 --> 04:47:39,120
standard standardized procedural

6048
04:47:36,798 --> 04:47:40,878
documentation to align divisional

6049
04:47:39,120 --> 04:47:42,560
activities, maintain long-term

6050
04:47:40,878 --> 04:47:44,400
consistency, and enhance overall

6051
04:47:42,560 --> 04:47:46,320
readiness for Columbus Water and Power.

6052
04:47:44,400 --> 04:47:48,480
At this time, I move for passage.

6053
04:47:46,320 --> 04:47:50,638
Second,

6054
04:47:48,480 --> 04:47:52,560
um please uh call the role in ordinance

6055
04:47:50,638 --> 04:47:54,560
1469. 226.

6056
04:47:52,560 --> 04:47:56,480
» Thanks. Timber Rosa de Padilla de Akar

6057
04:47:54,560 --> 04:47:58,160
Dors Green Remy Ross Vice President

6058
04:47:56,480 --> 04:48:00,878
Harden.

6059
04:47:58,160 --> 04:48:02,400
» Next we have ordinance 1503-2026 to

6060
04:48:00,878 --> 04:48:04,160
authorize the finance and management

6061
04:48:02,400 --> 04:48:06,240
director to enter into a universal term

6062
04:48:04,160 --> 04:48:08,958
contract for the option to purchase

6063
04:48:06,240 --> 04:48:11,200
enterprise storage with CWG government

6064
04:48:08,958 --> 04:48:13,280
LLC to authorize expenditure of $1 to

6065
04:48:11,200 --> 04:48:14,958
wave the competitive bidding provisions

6066
04:48:13,280 --> 04:48:17,120
of Columbus City Co and to declare an

6067
04:48:14,958 --> 04:48:19,120
emergency. Enterprise storage is a

6068
04:48:17,120 --> 04:48:21,040
centralized high performance IT

6069
04:48:19,120 --> 04:48:23,360
infrastructure designed to manage,

6070
04:48:21,040 --> 04:48:25,360
protect, and scale large volumes of

6071
04:48:23,360 --> 04:48:27,120
business critical data. This ordinance

6072
04:48:25,360 --> 04:48:29,520
establishes a universal term contract

6073
04:48:27,120 --> 04:48:32,400
for the option to purchase enterprise

6074
04:48:29,520 --> 04:48:34,000
storage with CWG government LLC. The

6075
04:48:32,400 --> 04:48:36,160
Department of Technology performed

6076
04:48:34,000 --> 04:48:38,480
vendor outreach to five certified

6077
04:48:36,160 --> 04:48:41,200
resellers. Four of the vendors responded

6078
04:48:38,480 --> 04:48:44,240
and the lowest pricing was submitted by

6079
04:48:41,200 --> 04:48:47,520
CWG government LLC. Enterprise Storage

6080
04:48:44,240 --> 04:48:50,480
UTC will provide the option to purchase

6081
04:48:47,520 --> 04:48:52,718
cloud storage and maintenance thereof

6082
04:48:50,480 --> 04:48:53,760
for all citywide departments. Seeing no

6083
04:48:52,718 --> 04:48:54,878
questions or comments from my

6084
04:48:53,760 --> 04:48:55,520
colleagues, I move for passage.

6085
04:48:54,878 --> 04:48:56,480
» Second.

6086
04:48:55,520 --> 04:48:58,560
» Please call the role.

6087
04:48:56,480 --> 04:49:00,400
» Thanks. Temperosa de Padilla de Akar

6088
04:48:58,560 --> 04:49:00,878
Dorance Green Remy Ross Vice President

6089
04:49:00,400 --> 04:49:04,878
Harden

6090
04:49:00,878 --> 04:49:06,320
» Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1522-2026

6091
04:49:04,878 --> 04:49:08,320
to authorize the director of department

6092
04:49:06,320 --> 04:49:11,520
of technology enter into a contract with

6093
04:49:08,320 --> 04:49:16,638
CWG government LLC for the purchase of

6094
04:49:11,520 --> 04:49:18,480
OM Omnesa Workforce 1 uh Horizon VDI and

6095
04:49:16,638 --> 04:49:20,080
Air Watch licensing to wave the

6096
04:49:18,480 --> 04:49:22,000
competitive bidding provisions of

6097
04:49:20,080 --> 04:49:24,000
Columbus City codes and to authorize the

6098
04:49:22,000 --> 04:49:25,360
expenditure of $100,000 from the

6099
04:49:24,000 --> 04:49:27,680
Department of Technology Information

6100
04:49:25,360 --> 04:49:32,718
Services Division Information Services

6101
04:49:27,680 --> 04:49:36,560
Operating Fund. Uh, Om, Omnisa Workspace

6102
04:49:32,718 --> 04:49:39,120
One, uh, a Horizon and Horizon VDI and

6103
04:49:36,560 --> 04:49:42,000
Air Watch licensing are used to provide

6104
04:49:39,120 --> 04:49:44,878
city workers with secure remote access

6105
04:49:42,000 --> 04:49:46,878
to essential systems and applications.

6106
04:49:44,878 --> 04:49:49,280
It enables employees to perform their

6107
04:49:46,878 --> 04:49:51,840
duties efficiently from various

6108
04:49:49,280 --> 04:49:54,080
locations outside the office, ensuring

6109
04:49:51,840 --> 04:49:55,760
continuity of services and streamline

6110
04:49:54,080 --> 04:49:57,600
communication. And this platform allows

6111
04:49:55,760 --> 04:49:59,200
the city to maintain operational

6112
04:49:57,600 --> 04:50:01,280
flexibility while upholding data

6113
04:49:59,200 --> 04:50:04,560
security and compliance standards. The

6114
04:50:01,280 --> 04:50:08,080
Ohio AC academic resource network

6115
04:50:04,560 --> 04:50:11,600
contracts pricing with uh Workspace 1

6116
04:50:08,080 --> 04:50:13,920
and Horizon VDI and Air Watch and uses

6117
04:50:11,600 --> 04:50:16,638
partners to distribute its services. A

6118
04:50:13,920 --> 04:50:20,718
waiver of bid allows the city to receive

6119
04:50:16,638 --> 04:50:21,840
OR nets uh contracted pricing. Seeing no

6120
04:50:20,718 --> 04:50:24,000
questions or comments from my

6121
04:50:21,840 --> 04:50:25,120
colleagues, I move for passage. Clerk,

6122
04:50:24,000 --> 04:50:28,080
please call the role.

6123
04:50:25,120 --> 04:50:29,520
» Paying Simberia de Aar Dors Green Remy

6124
04:50:28,080 --> 04:50:30,320
Ross, Vice President Hart.

6125
04:50:29,520 --> 04:50:32,878
» Passed.

6126
04:50:30,320 --> 04:50:36,080
» Next, we have ordinance 1572-2026

6127
04:50:32,878 --> 04:50:37,440
to authorize the expenditure of $139,150

6128
04:50:36,080 --> 04:50:39,680
from the community development block

6129
04:50:37,440 --> 04:50:40,958
grant fund to authorize the director of

6130
04:50:39,680 --> 04:50:43,920
Department of Finance and Management to

6131
04:50:40,958 --> 04:50:45,840
modify the CDBG subreient agreement with

6132
04:50:43,920 --> 04:50:49,040
Habitat for Humanity of Ohio, Inc. to

6133
04:50:45,840 --> 04:50:50,958
add $139,550

6134
04:50:49,040 --> 04:50:53,840
and to allow for reimbursement of

6135
04:50:50,958 --> 04:50:56,560
expenditures incurred between January 1

6136
04:50:53,840 --> 04:50:58,320
and February 27, 2026 and to declare an

6137
04:50:56,560 --> 04:51:00,958
emergency. Habitat for Humanity is a

6138
04:50:58,320 --> 04:51:03,040
nonprofit housing and human service

6139
04:51:00,958 --> 04:51:04,798
provider in central Ohio that has been

6140
04:51:03,040 --> 04:51:06,958
performing roof repair and replacement

6141
04:51:04,798 --> 04:51:09,280
for income qualified homeowners using

6142
04:51:06,958 --> 04:51:12,958
community development grants funds since

6143
04:51:09,280 --> 04:51:14,878
2023. Ordinance 0239-2026,

6144
04:51:12,958 --> 04:51:16,240
which was approved in February,

6145
04:51:14,878 --> 04:51:17,920
authorized the Director of Department of

6146
04:51:16,240 --> 04:51:19,920
Finance and Management to enter into a

6147
04:51:17,920 --> 04:51:21,760
subreient agreement with Habitat for

6148
04:51:19,920 --> 04:51:23,920
Humanity to complete additional roof

6149
04:51:21,760 --> 04:51:25,760
repair and replacement projects that

6150
04:51:23,920 --> 04:51:28,718
could not be completed under the city's

6151
04:51:25,760 --> 04:51:31,280
expired 2025 subreient agreement with

6152
04:51:28,718 --> 04:51:34,080
the nonprofit. A small number of roof

6153
04:51:31,280 --> 04:51:36,400
repair projects had been started, but

6154
04:51:34,080 --> 04:51:38,000
due to inclement weather could not be

6155
04:51:36,400 --> 04:51:40,718
completed prior to the expiration of the

6156
04:51:38,000 --> 04:51:42,560
agreement on December 31st, 2025. Out of

6157
04:51:40,718 --> 04:51:44,638
a necessity to protect the homes under

6158
04:51:42,560 --> 04:51:46,240
repair, those projects were completed

6159
04:51:44,638 --> 04:51:48,560
and additional construction costs were

6160
04:51:46,240 --> 04:51:50,560
incurred by Habitat Humanity before the

6161
04:51:48,560 --> 04:51:54,718
execution of the new agreement on

6162
04:51:50,560 --> 04:51:56,320
February 27 27th, 2026. An additional

6163
04:51:54,718 --> 04:51:58,560
$139,150

6164
04:51:56,320 --> 04:51:59,920
is needed to cover those costs incurred

6165
04:51:58,560 --> 04:52:02,000
during the lapse period between

6166
04:51:59,920 --> 04:52:03,680
agreements as well as to complete

6167
04:52:02,000 --> 04:52:05,920
additional roof repair and replacement

6168
04:52:03,680 --> 04:52:07,920
projects for properties on the wait

6169
04:52:05,920 --> 04:52:09,680
list. Additional HUD environmental

6170
04:52:07,920 --> 04:52:12,480
review requirements required radon

6171
04:52:09,680 --> 04:52:14,240
testing and mitigation have also added

6172
04:52:12,480 --> 04:52:17,040
costs. An emerging designation is

6173
04:52:14,240 --> 04:52:19,600
requested in order to uh for the project

6174
04:52:17,040 --> 04:52:21,360
to comply with HUD timelines test

6175
04:52:19,600 --> 04:52:22,958
requirements. Are there any questions or

6176
04:52:21,360 --> 04:52:24,718
comments from my colleagues? Seeing

6177
04:52:22,958 --> 04:52:26,160
none, I first move to amend as submitted

6178
04:52:24,718 --> 04:52:27,200
to the clerk. Cler,

6179
04:52:26,160 --> 04:52:29,760
» Please call the role.

6180
04:52:27,200 --> 04:52:32,080
» Banks Barosa de Padilla de Aar Doran

6181
04:52:29,760 --> 04:52:32,878
Green Remy Ross President Harden.

6182
04:52:32,080 --> 04:52:35,040
» Amended.

6183
04:52:32,878 --> 04:52:36,400
» Uh, now I move for passage as amended.

6184
04:52:35,040 --> 04:52:38,718
» Cler, please call the role.

6185
04:52:36,400 --> 04:52:40,718
» Banks Barrosa de Padilla de AOA Doran

6186
04:52:38,718 --> 04:52:43,920
Green Remy Ross President Harden.

6187
04:52:40,718 --> 04:52:45,440
» Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1588-2026

6188
04:52:43,920 --> 04:52:46,958
to authorize the director of finance and

6189
04:52:45,440 --> 04:52:48,878
management on behalf of the office of

6190
04:52:46,958 --> 04:52:50,480
construction management to modify and

6191
04:52:48,878 --> 04:52:53,200
increase the professional construction

6192
04:52:50,480 --> 04:52:54,718
manager at risk service agreement with

6193
04:52:53,200 --> 04:52:56,798
Inc. for the department of public

6194
04:52:54,718 --> 04:52:59,120
services south outpost project to

6195
04:52:56,798 --> 04:53:02,120
authorize an expenditure up to

6196
04:52:59,120 --> 04:53:02,120
7,569,1.50

6197
04:53:02,878 --> 04:53:06,798
50 cents within the streets and highways

6198
04:53:04,798 --> 04:53:10,000
voted capital fund to authorize an

6199
04:53:06,798 --> 04:53:12,480
amendment uh to to authorize an

6200
04:53:10,000 --> 04:53:14,480
amendment to the 2025 capital

6201
04:53:12,480 --> 04:53:16,878
improvements budget and to declare an

6202
04:53:14,480 --> 04:53:18,638
emergency. This ordinance establishes a

6203
04:53:16,878 --> 04:53:20,240
pre-planned modification to a

6204
04:53:18,638 --> 04:53:22,320
construction manager at risk services

6205
04:53:20,240 --> 04:53:24,638
agreement with Inc. construction manager

6206
04:53:22,320 --> 04:53:26,560
at risk projects are phase construction

6207
04:53:24,638 --> 04:53:29,440
projects that require routine and

6208
04:53:26,560 --> 04:53:31,680
pre-planned modifications to the phase

6209
04:53:29,440 --> 04:53:34,638
contract. This modification will provide

6210
04:53:31,680 --> 04:53:36,958
funding for the guaranteed maximum price

6211
04:53:34,638 --> 04:53:38,560
of construction set out in the original

6212
04:53:36,958 --> 04:53:40,240
agreement. Are there any questions or

6213
04:53:38,560 --> 04:53:41,680
comments from my colleagues? Seeing

6214
04:53:40,240 --> 04:53:42,878
none, I move for passage.

6215
04:53:41,680 --> 04:53:45,760
» Cler, please call the role.

6216
04:53:42,878 --> 04:53:47,200
» Banks Rosa Deia de Akaw Doris Green Remy

6217
04:53:45,760 --> 04:53:50,798
Ross, vice president Harden.

6218
04:53:47,200 --> 04:53:52,080
» Passed. Next is ordinance 1643-2026

6219
04:53:50,798 --> 04:53:53,760
to authorize the director of department

6220
04:53:52,080 --> 04:53:55,840
of finance and management to establish

6221
04:53:53,760 --> 04:53:57,440
various purchase orders and to associate

6222
04:53:55,840 --> 04:53:59,120
all general budget reservations

6223
04:53:57,440 --> 04:54:00,798
resulting from this ordinance with

6224
04:53:59,120 --> 04:54:02,958
previously established universal term

6225
04:54:00,798 --> 04:54:04,480
contracts for fuel and fueling services

6226
04:54:02,958 --> 04:54:06,480
on behalf of the fleet management

6227
04:54:04,480 --> 04:54:08,560
division per the terms and conditions of

6228
04:54:06,480 --> 04:54:10,320
various previously established universal

6229
04:54:08,560 --> 04:54:12,160
term contracts to authorize expenditure

6230
04:54:10,320 --> 04:54:13,520
of $3 million from the fleet management

6231
04:54:12,160 --> 04:54:15,040
operating fund and to declare an

6232
04:54:13,520 --> 04:54:17,920
emergency. This ordinance established

6233
04:54:15,040 --> 04:54:20,798
purchase orders via an existing extern

6234
04:54:17,920 --> 04:54:23,120
uh universal term contract with Wex Bank

6235
04:54:20,798 --> 04:54:25,200
for vehicle fuel and fueling services on

6236
04:54:23,120 --> 04:54:26,718
behalf of the fleet management division.

6237
04:54:25,200 --> 04:54:28,160
These services are critical to the

6238
04:54:26,718 --> 04:54:29,920
continued operations of the city's

6239
04:54:28,160 --> 04:54:31,280
vehicle fleet. Seeing no questions or

6240
04:54:29,920 --> 04:54:31,760
comments from my colleagues, I move for

6241
04:54:31,280 --> 04:54:32,240
passage.

6242
04:54:31,760 --> 04:54:33,760
» Second.

6243
04:54:32,240 --> 04:54:36,878
» Clerk, please call the role.

6244
04:54:33,760 --> 04:54:38,320
» Bankston Deia de Aar Doris Green Remy

6245
04:54:36,878 --> 04:54:41,760
Ross President Harden

6246
04:54:38,320 --> 04:54:44,560
» Passed. Next is ordinance 1654-2026

6247
04:54:41,760 --> 04:54:49,360
to adopt the draft fiscal year 2026

6248
04:54:44,560 --> 04:54:52,320
annual action plan for the CDBG home

6249
04:54:49,360 --> 04:54:55,520
and ESG programs to authorize the

6250
04:54:52,320 --> 04:54:57,920
acceptance of 2026 HUD community

6251
04:54:55,520 --> 04:55:01,600
planning and development grant awards to

6252
04:54:57,920 --> 04:55:04,718
authorize the filing of the final fiscal

6253
04:55:01,600 --> 04:55:06,240
year 2026 annual action plan with the US

6254
04:55:04,718 --> 04:55:08,160
Department of Housing and Urban

6255
04:55:06,240 --> 04:55:10,080
Development and to declare an emergency.

6256
04:55:08,160 --> 04:55:12,400
The city of Columbus receives annual

6257
04:55:10,080 --> 04:55:14,878
grants from the US Department of uh

6258
04:55:12,400 --> 04:55:16,718
housing and and Urban Development. Each

6259
04:55:14,878 --> 04:55:18,560
year, the city's grant management

6260
04:55:16,718 --> 04:55:21,200
section is responsible for completing

6261
04:55:18,560 --> 04:55:23,920
and submitting annual plan act excuse

6262
04:55:21,200 --> 04:55:26,400
me, submitting an annual action plan to

6263
04:55:23,920 --> 04:55:28,400
HUD. Annual action plans identify

6264
04:55:26,400 --> 04:55:30,560
projects and establish budgets for the

6265
04:55:28,400 --> 04:55:33,600
city's HUD grant programs and summarize

6266
04:55:30,560 --> 04:55:35,600
annual efforts for con consultation,

6267
04:55:33,600 --> 04:55:38,080
citizen participation, and anticipated

6268
04:55:35,600 --> 04:55:39,920
outcomes. This year, due to the changing

6269
04:55:38,080 --> 04:55:41,920
landscape of federal guidelines related

6270
04:55:39,920 --> 04:55:44,240
to the use of federal funds, the city is

6271
04:55:41,920 --> 04:55:46,878
opting to adopt the draft fiscal year

6272
04:55:44,240 --> 04:55:48,958
2026 annual action plan to meet HUD

6273
04:55:46,878 --> 04:55:51,760
deadlines and will execute the grants

6274
04:55:48,958 --> 04:55:53,600
associated with the plan once additional

6275
04:55:51,760 --> 04:55:55,680
clarity on federal requirements is

6276
04:55:53,600 --> 04:55:58,240
received in the fall. City departments

6277
04:55:55,680 --> 04:55:59,920
managing these awards will submit future

6278
04:55:58,240 --> 04:56:02,000
legislation to authorize both the

6279
04:55:59,920 --> 04:56:03,680
appropriation and expenditure of those

6280
04:56:02,000 --> 04:56:04,958
funds. Emergency designation is

6281
04:56:03,680 --> 04:56:07,120
requested to meet the deadlines

6282
04:56:04,958 --> 04:56:08,560
previously mentioned uh to meet HUD's

6283
04:56:07,120 --> 04:56:10,080
standards. Any questions or comments

6284
04:56:08,560 --> 04:56:10,718
from my colleagues? Seeing none, I move

6285
04:56:10,080 --> 04:56:11,040
for passage.

6286
04:56:10,718 --> 04:56:12,160
» Second.

6287
04:56:11,040 --> 04:56:15,040
» Clerk, please call the role.

6288
04:56:12,160 --> 04:56:16,480
» Banks timber roster deodaw green remy

6289
04:56:15,040 --> 04:56:20,080
Ross vice president Hard

6290
04:56:16,480 --> 04:56:22,080
» Pass. Next we have ordinance 1700-2026

6291
04:56:20,080 --> 04:56:24,798
to wave the provisions of section

6292
04:56:22,080 --> 04:56:27,280
329.18A1

6293
04:56:24,798 --> 04:56:30,280
329.18A2

6294
04:56:27,280 --> 04:56:30,280
3298

6295
04:56:30,480 --> 04:56:36,718
A5 329.18

6296
04:56:33,200 --> 04:56:40,240
B1 329.818 8118

6297
04:56:36,718 --> 04:56:42,878
B2 329.18

6298
04:56:40,240 --> 04:56:45,440
B5 329.18

6299
04:56:42,878 --> 04:56:47,920
D2 329.18

6300
04:56:45,440 --> 04:56:50,958
D4 329.18

6301
04:56:47,920 --> 04:56:52,878
D5 329.22A

6302
04:56:50,958 --> 04:56:56,240
32923

6303
04:56:52,878 --> 04:56:58,480
AAA 329.23A

6304
04:56:56,240 --> 04:57:01,840
B 329.23

6305
04:56:58,480 --> 04:57:06,160
A C 329.23BA

6306
04:57:01,840 --> 04:57:10,120
329.23 23 BB 329.23

6307
04:57:06,160 --> 04:57:10,120
BC 329.27B2

6308
04:57:10,320 --> 04:57:16,280
329.27

6309
04:57:12,718 --> 04:57:16,280
C 329.28B2

6310
04:57:16,560 --> 04:57:21,040
and 329.28C

6311
04:57:19,040 --> 04:57:25,120
of Columbus City codes that are in

6312
04:57:21,040 --> 04:57:28,560
conflict with OC section 2 uh section

6313
04:57:25,120 --> 04:57:30,560
9.64 64 to allow for a controlled

6314
04:57:28,560 --> 04:57:32,080
disclosure procurement process for

6315
04:57:30,560 --> 04:57:33,920
qualifying technology related

6316
04:57:32,080 --> 04:57:35,920
procurements and to declare an

6317
04:57:33,920 --> 04:57:37,600
emergency. At some point, uh, city

6318
04:57:35,920 --> 04:57:41,280
attorney, we have to talk about a more

6319
04:57:37,600 --> 04:57:42,638
efficient way [laughter]

6320
04:57:41,280 --> 04:57:45,958
to address those.

6321
04:57:42,638 --> 04:57:45,958
» That's wild.

6322
04:57:46,878 --> 04:57:50,480
Council members, this ordinance

6323
04:57:48,400 --> 04:57:53,520
temporarily waves various provisions of

6324
04:57:50,480 --> 04:57:55,200
section 329 of city code to provide the

6325
04:57:53,520 --> 04:57:57,680
Department of Technology necessary

6326
04:57:55,200 --> 04:57:59,840
latitude to procure cyber security

6327
04:57:57,680 --> 04:58:01,440
related services, equipment, and

6328
04:57:59,840 --> 04:58:03,840
software in alignment with the Ohio

6329
04:58:01,440 --> 04:58:05,520
Revised Code section 9.64 through

6330
04:58:03,840 --> 04:58:07,040
December 31st of this year. The

6331
04:58:05,520 --> 04:58:08,480
Department of Finance and Management,

6332
04:58:07,040 --> 04:58:10,160
the Department of Technology, and the

6333
04:58:08,480 --> 04:58:13,280
City Attorney's Office are working

6334
04:58:10,160 --> 04:58:15,440
together on amendments of chapter 329 of

6335
04:58:13,280 --> 04:58:17,920
the Columbus City Codes to present to

6336
04:58:15,440 --> 04:58:20,000
council later this year with the goal of

6337
04:58:17,920 --> 04:58:23,040
permanently addressing the need to allow

6338
04:58:20,000 --> 04:58:25,200
for uh different uh solicitation process

6339
04:58:23,040 --> 04:58:27,280
for certain products and services that

6340
04:58:25,200 --> 04:58:29,120
are necessary uh to the operations of

6341
04:58:27,280 --> 04:58:30,638
the Department of Technology in response

6342
04:58:29,120 --> 04:58:33,040
to the recent cyber security

6343
04:58:30,638 --> 04:58:36,160
requirements for public entities found

6344
04:58:33,040 --> 04:58:37,440
in Ohio Revised Code section 9.64 Are

6345
04:58:36,160 --> 04:58:39,520
there any questions or comments from my

6346
04:58:37,440 --> 04:58:40,798
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

6347
04:58:39,520 --> 04:58:41,840
passage,

6348
04:58:40,798 --> 04:58:44,400
» Please call the role.

6349
04:58:41,840 --> 04:58:46,160
» Banks Barosa de Akar, Dorance Green,

6350
04:58:44,400 --> 04:58:48,400
Remy Ross, Vice President Hart.

6351
04:58:46,160 --> 04:58:50,560
» Passed. Next, we have ordinance

6352
04:58:48,400 --> 04:58:52,400
1795-2026

6353
04:58:50,560 --> 04:58:53,520
to amend the 2025 capital improvements

6354
04:58:52,400 --> 04:58:54,878
budget to authorize the director of

6355
04:58:53,520 --> 04:58:56,240
finance and management on behalf of the

6356
04:58:54,878 --> 04:58:57,680
Department of Technology to associate

6357
04:58:56,240 --> 04:58:59,520
all general budget reservations

6358
04:58:57,680 --> 04:59:00,878
resulting from this ordinance with the

6359
04:58:59,520 --> 04:59:04,400
appropriate universal term

6360
04:59:00,878 --> 04:59:07,840
contract/purchase agreement with CW uh

6361
04:59:04,400 --> 04:59:10,000
CDW government LLC for the procurement

6362
04:59:07,840 --> 04:59:11,600
data storage equipment to authorize the

6363
04:59:10,000 --> 04:59:13,760
expenditure from the information

6364
04:59:11,600 --> 04:59:15,680
services geo bonds fund and to declare

6365
04:59:13,760 --> 04:59:17,600
an emergency. Department of Technology

6366
04:59:15,680 --> 04:59:19,440
manages the city's data centers and

6367
04:59:17,600 --> 04:59:21,600
requires electronic storage to be

6368
04:59:19,440 --> 04:59:23,280
available to ensure smooth operating of

6369
04:59:21,600 --> 04:59:24,798
the city's infrastructure. Without

6370
04:59:23,280 --> 04:59:27,040
sufficient electronic storage, the

6371
04:59:24,798 --> 04:59:28,560
city's computer systems will not be able

6372
04:59:27,040 --> 04:59:30,480
to function properly. The Department of

6373
04:59:28,560 --> 04:59:34,560
Finance is establishing a purchase

6374
04:59:30,480 --> 04:59:36,638
agreement with CDW uh government LLC for

6375
04:59:34,560 --> 04:59:38,958
the acquisition of the necessary

6376
04:59:36,638 --> 04:59:41,920
equipment. This ordinance is a companion

6377
04:59:38,958 --> 04:59:44,160
piece to ordinance 1503-2026.

6378
04:59:41,920 --> 04:59:46,638
Emergency action is requested in order

6379
04:59:44,160 --> 04:59:49,520
to place the order by the quote deadline

6380
04:59:46,638 --> 04:59:51,280
of July 7th, 2026. Due to increased

6381
04:59:49,520 --> 04:59:53,760
industry demand for electronic data

6382
04:59:51,280 --> 04:59:55,760
storage products, the received quote for

6383
04:59:53,760 --> 04:59:58,160
the equipment is only guaranteed until

6384
04:59:55,760 --> 05:00:00,480
July 7th, 2026. After July 7th, the

6385
04:59:58,160 --> 05:00:02,160
manufacturer price are set to increase.

6386
05:00:00,480 --> 05:00:04,240
Seeing no questions or comments from my

6387
05:00:02,160 --> 05:00:05,520
colleagues, I'd move for passage.

6388
05:00:04,240 --> 05:00:08,400
» Clerk, please call the role.

6389
05:00:05,520 --> 05:00:09,760
» Thanks. Tim Barrosa de Aaron Green Remy

6390
05:00:08,400 --> 05:00:11,440
Ross, Vice President Harden.

6391
05:00:09,760 --> 05:00:12,638
» Pass. And finally, in the finance and

6392
05:00:11,440 --> 05:00:14,798
governance committee, we have ordinance

6393
05:00:12,638 --> 05:00:16,320
1866-2026

6394
05:00:14,798 --> 05:00:19,200
to authorize the finance and management

6395
05:00:16,320 --> 05:00:21,200
director to enter into contract for the

6396
05:00:19,200 --> 05:00:23,200
option to purchase water testing

6397
05:00:21,200 --> 05:00:25,120
supplies with Environmental Resources

6398
05:00:23,200 --> 05:00:27,920
Associates to authorize expenditure of

6399
05:00:25,120 --> 05:00:29,840
$1 to wave the provisions of competitive

6400
05:00:27,920 --> 05:00:31,520
bidding and to declare an emergency.

6401
05:00:29,840 --> 05:00:34,080
This ordinance establishes a universal

6402
05:00:31,520 --> 05:00:35,520
term contract for the option to purchase

6403
05:00:34,080 --> 05:00:37,600
water testing supplies with

6404
05:00:35,520 --> 05:00:40,240
Environmental Resource Associates.

6405
05:00:37,600 --> 05:00:42,320
Division of water is the primary user of

6406
05:00:40,240 --> 05:00:44,480
water testing supplies. Water testing

6407
05:00:42,320 --> 05:00:47,040
supplies are to be used for municipal

6408
05:00:44,480 --> 05:00:48,798
drinking water and wastewater testing as

6409
05:00:47,040 --> 05:00:51,440
required by the Ohio Environmental

6410
05:00:48,798 --> 05:00:53,760
Protection Agency. The purchase the

6411
05:00:51,440 --> 05:00:56,080
purchasing office open formal bids in

6412
05:00:53,760 --> 05:00:58,400
April and May for these supplies, but

6413
05:00:56,080 --> 05:01:00,160
zero bids were received. As a result,

6414
05:00:58,400 --> 05:01:02,160
the division of water desires to

6415
05:01:00,160 --> 05:01:04,080
continue contracting with the current

6416
05:01:02,160 --> 05:01:06,160
vendor environmental resource associates

6417
05:01:04,080 --> 05:01:08,000
for these supplies. So a waiver of

6418
05:01:06,160 --> 05:01:10,080
competitive bid is requested. Emergency

6419
05:01:08,000 --> 05:01:12,638
designation is requested to avoid a

6420
05:01:10,080 --> 05:01:14,480
prolonged lapse between the now expired

6421
05:01:12,638 --> 05:01:16,000
contract and the resulting of a new

6422
05:01:14,480 --> 05:01:17,360
contract. Are there any questions or

6423
05:01:16,000 --> 05:01:19,040
comments from my colleagues? Seeing

6424
05:01:17,360 --> 05:01:19,760
none, I move for passage.

6425
05:01:19,040 --> 05:01:20,798
» Second.

6426
05:01:19,760 --> 05:01:24,080
» Please call the role.

6427
05:01:20,798 --> 05:01:25,120
» Thanks Denver Aar Dors Green Remy Ross.

6428
05:01:24,080 --> 05:01:25,520
Vice President Harden

6429
05:01:25,120 --> 05:01:26,638
» Passed.

6430
05:01:25,520 --> 05:01:28,240
» Thank you council president. All have

6431
05:01:26,638 --> 05:01:29,520
the finance committee. May I move to the

6432
05:01:28,240 --> 05:01:30,320
economic development small minority

6433
05:01:29,520 --> 05:01:31,440
business committee?

6434
05:01:30,320 --> 05:01:34,000
» Sure.

6435
05:01:31,440 --> 05:01:36,878
» Thank you. We are going to pick it up at

6436
05:01:34,000 --> 05:01:38,958
ordinance 1511-2026

6437
05:01:36,878 --> 05:01:41,120
to authorize the director of department

6438
05:01:38,958 --> 05:01:42,638
of development to execute an amendment

6439
05:01:41,120 --> 05:01:45,600
to the economic development agreement

6440
05:01:42,638 --> 05:01:49,680
dated April 19th, 2024 between the city

6441
05:01:45,600 --> 05:01:51,520
and Westbin QoZB LLC to remove the

6442
05:01:49,680 --> 05:01:53,120
developer obligations related to the

6443
05:01:51,520 --> 05:01:55,600
construction and delivery of office

6444
05:01:53,120 --> 05:01:57,200
space in association with the Westbin

6445
05:01:55,600 --> 05:01:59,600
project provided that the developer

6446
05:01:57,200 --> 05:02:01,280
assumes the new obligation to deliver

6447
05:01:59,600 --> 05:02:03,280
the apartments by a certain deadline.

6448
05:02:01,280 --> 05:02:05,680
line to more quickly address the city's

6449
05:02:03,280 --> 05:02:08,160
housing supply shortage. This ordinance

6450
05:02:05,680 --> 05:02:12,400
amends a 2024 economic development

6451
05:02:08,160 --> 05:02:14,718
agreement with West Bin QoZB related to

6452
05:02:12,400 --> 05:02:18,080
the redevelopment of a former Buckeye

6453
05:02:14,718 --> 05:02:20,480
Auto Parts property at 2474

6454
05:02:18,080 --> 05:02:23,520
uh McKinley Avenue previously adopted by

6455
05:02:20,480 --> 05:02:27,920
council. The ada authorized by this body

6456
05:02:23,520 --> 05:02:30,160
in two 2023 via ordinance 1866-2023

6457
05:02:27,920 --> 05:02:31,600
is a commitment from the department to

6458
05:02:30,160 --> 05:02:33,520
the developer to bring forward

6459
05:02:31,600 --> 05:02:36,080
subsequent legislation to council. While

6460
05:02:33,520 --> 05:02:39,040
the EDA includes a commitment for the

6461
05:02:36,080 --> 05:02:42,080
department to uh pursue a tax increment

6462
05:02:39,040 --> 05:02:44,000
financing district at West Ben and a new

6463
05:02:42,080 --> 05:02:45,920
or expanded new community authority

6464
05:02:44,000 --> 05:02:48,160
there. These steps have not yet been

6465
05:02:45,920 --> 05:02:50,080
taken. No enterprise zone agreement will

6466
05:02:48,160 --> 05:02:52,160
be pursued due to the commercial office

6467
05:02:50,080 --> 05:02:54,000
space being removed from the project.

6468
05:02:52,160 --> 05:02:56,000
The project will already qualify for the

6469
05:02:54,000 --> 05:02:57,520
community reinvestment area agreement.

6470
05:02:56,000 --> 05:02:59,520
This will not require further

6471
05:02:57,520 --> 05:03:00,878
legislation. More specifically, the

6472
05:02:59,520 --> 05:03:03,600
original agreement committed to

6473
05:03:00,878 --> 05:03:06,080
construction of of 20,000 square feet of

6474
05:03:03,600 --> 05:03:09,040
office space where 10,000 square feet

6475
05:03:06,080 --> 05:03:11,120
out of the 20,000 square feet would be

6476
05:03:09,040 --> 05:03:12,878
de devoted to either a music

6477
05:03:11,120 --> 05:03:14,878
industrybased incubator space in

6478
05:03:12,878 --> 05:03:17,600
partnership with Music Columbus or a

6479
05:03:14,878 --> 05:03:20,080
minority business incubator space with a

6480
05:03:17,600 --> 05:03:21,920
2B uh identified partner. Since the

6481
05:03:20,080 --> 05:03:23,440
establishment of the EDA, the market

6482
05:03:21,920 --> 05:03:25,520
conditions for the financing and

6483
05:03:23,440 --> 05:03:27,360
construction of office space has

6484
05:03:25,520 --> 05:03:29,600
continued to deteriorate to a point

6485
05:03:27,360 --> 05:03:31,920
where it may, in many cases, it is no

6486
05:03:29,600 --> 05:03:33,600
longer financially feasible to build and

6487
05:03:31,920 --> 05:03:35,920
lease up the new office space.

6488
05:03:33,600 --> 05:03:38,240
Maintaining 20,000 ft of office space

6489
05:03:35,920 --> 05:03:40,080
for this project would destabilize the

6490
05:03:38,240 --> 05:03:42,878
financial viability of the project, so

6491
05:03:40,080 --> 05:03:44,958
the developer had to pull that uh plan

6492
05:03:42,878 --> 05:03:46,798
out. Additionally, conversations with

6493
05:03:44,958 --> 05:03:49,360
Music Columbus about the incubator

6494
05:03:46,798 --> 05:03:51,680
fizzled out before the amendment was put

6495
05:03:49,360 --> 05:03:53,760
forward. The the the commitments that

6496
05:03:51,680 --> 05:03:56,000
still remain in the project are

6497
05:03:53,760 --> 05:03:58,638
brownfield remediation of the site. So,

6498
05:03:56,000 --> 05:04:02,080
bringing a brownfield site into a

6499
05:03:58,638 --> 05:04:04,080
productive use, 700 apartments units

6500
05:04:02,080 --> 05:04:07,680
where they will again utilize that CRA.

6501
05:04:04,080 --> 05:04:11,520
So, 10% of the units are at 60% AMI, 10%

6502
05:04:07,680 --> 05:04:14,160
are at 80% AMI or the option of 30% at

6503
05:04:11,520 --> 05:04:16,798
80% AMI. This is in alignment with our

6504
05:04:14,160 --> 05:04:19,840
CRA so that the affordability would last

6505
05:04:16,798 --> 05:04:23,120
at least 15 years. 8,000 square ft of

6506
05:04:19,840 --> 05:04:25,600
retail space, a 12 to 17 acre uh public

6507
05:04:23,120 --> 05:04:28,958
park with a lagoon, dog park, public

6508
05:04:25,600 --> 05:04:31,920
kayak, launch, and uh trails, bikes,

6509
05:04:28,958 --> 05:04:33,680
paths that will be conveyed to the city.

6510
05:04:31,920 --> 05:04:35,920
In some this project cleans up an

6511
05:04:33,680 --> 05:04:38,958
environmentally polluted site along the

6512
05:04:35,920 --> 05:04:41,120
Sciota River that has 750 apartment

6513
05:04:38,958 --> 05:04:43,440
units with affordability included and

6514
05:04:41,120 --> 05:04:45,360
creates a public park with water uh

6515
05:04:43,440 --> 05:04:46,638
recreation activities. Are there any

6516
05:04:45,360 --> 05:04:49,040
questions or comments from my colleagues

6517
05:04:46,638 --> 05:04:51,040
on this one? Seeing none, I move for

6518
05:04:49,040 --> 05:04:52,878
passage by voice.

6519
05:04:51,040 --> 05:04:53,600
» Cler, please call the role by voice.

6520
05:04:52,878 --> 05:04:54,240
» Bankston,

6521
05:04:53,600 --> 05:04:55,520
» Yes.

6522
05:04:54,240 --> 05:04:56,320
» Verbosa Deodia,

6523
05:04:55,520 --> 05:04:57,440
» Yes.

6524
05:04:56,320 --> 05:04:58,080
» Deakau,

6525
05:04:57,440 --> 05:04:58,878
» Yes.

6526
05:04:58,080 --> 05:04:59,680
» Dorren,

6527
05:04:58,878 --> 05:05:00,240
» Yes.

6528
05:04:59,680 --> 05:05:02,000
» Green,

6529
05:05:00,240 --> 05:05:02,638
» Yes. Remy,

6530
05:05:02,000 --> 05:05:03,200
» Yes.

6531
05:05:02,638 --> 05:05:03,840
» Ross,

6532
05:05:03,200 --> 05:05:04,480
» Yes.

6533
05:05:03,840 --> 05:05:05,040
» White,

6534
05:05:04,480 --> 05:05:06,560
» Yes.

6535
05:05:05,040 --> 05:05:07,920
» President Harden,

6536
05:05:06,560 --> 05:05:09,280
» Yes.

6537
05:05:07,920 --> 05:05:12,480
» Thank you. Uh, next we have ordinance

6538
05:05:09,280 --> 05:05:14,080
1702-2026 to amend the 2025 capital

6539
05:05:12,480 --> 05:05:15,760
improvement budget to authorize the city

6540
05:05:14,080 --> 05:05:17,840
auditor to transfer appropriations and

6541
05:05:15,760 --> 05:05:20,080
cash between projects and divisions

6542
05:05:17,840 --> 05:05:21,920
within the development taxable bond

6543
05:05:20,080 --> 05:05:23,360
funds. to authorize the director of

6544
05:05:21,920 --> 05:05:25,200
development to enter into a grant

6545
05:05:23,360 --> 05:05:27,440
agreement with Columbus Next Generation

6546
05:05:25,200 --> 05:05:29,120
Corporation to purchase, renovate, or

6547
05:05:27,440 --> 05:05:31,600
construct real property assets in

6548
05:05:29,120 --> 05:05:33,360
targeted central uh city areas to

6549
05:05:31,600 --> 05:05:35,040
advance economic and community

6550
05:05:33,360 --> 05:05:38,320
development initiatives to authorize the

6551
05:05:35,040 --> 05:05:40,798
expenditure of $2.5 million from the

6552
05:05:38,320 --> 05:05:42,718
development taxable bond fund to advance

6553
05:05:40,798 --> 05:05:44,798
funding per predetermined schedule and

6554
05:05:42,718 --> 05:05:47,120
to declare an emergency. This ordinance

6555
05:05:44,798 --> 05:05:49,200
provides capital dollars to support the

6556
05:05:47,120 --> 05:05:51,040
ongoing under urban redevelopment

6557
05:05:49,200 --> 05:05:53,040
efforts of Columbus Next Generation

6558
05:05:51,040 --> 05:05:54,798
Corporation, the city's primary property

6559
05:05:53,040 --> 05:05:56,240
acquisition and urban redevelopment

6560
05:05:54,798 --> 05:05:57,360
vehicle. Are there any questions or

6561
05:05:56,240 --> 05:05:58,480
comments from my colleagues? Seeing

6562
05:05:57,360 --> 05:06:00,480
none, I move for passage.

6563
05:05:58,480 --> 05:06:02,560
» Second.

6564
05:06:00,480 --> 05:06:04,480
» Thanks. Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawa,

6565
05:06:02,560 --> 05:06:06,000
Doran Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

6566
05:06:04,480 --> 05:06:08,160
Harden.

6567
05:06:06,000 --> 05:06:10,480
» Uh, thank you. And last uh we have

6568
05:06:08,160 --> 05:06:13,040
ordinance 1861-2026

6569
05:06:10,480 --> 05:06:14,878
to authorize an amendment to the 2025

6570
05:06:13,040 --> 05:06:16,718
capital improvements budget to authorize

6571
05:06:14,878 --> 05:06:18,400
the transfer between projects and

6572
05:06:16,718 --> 05:06:19,840
departments within the development

6573
05:06:18,400 --> 05:06:21,680
taxable bond fund to authorize the

6574
05:06:19,840 --> 05:06:24,160
director and department of development

6575
05:06:21,680 --> 05:06:25,840
to enter into a grant agreement with

6576
05:06:24,160 --> 05:06:28,080
Columbus Franklin County Finance

6577
05:06:25,840 --> 05:06:29,600
Authority to provide funding for urban

6578
05:06:28,080 --> 05:06:31,680
redevelopment projects and to authorize

6579
05:06:29,600 --> 05:06:33,280
the expenditure of $4 million from the

6580
05:06:31,680 --> 05:06:35,120
development taxable bond fund and the

6581
05:06:33,280 --> 05:06:37,120
declared emergency. Uh, this ordinance

6582
05:06:35,120 --> 05:06:39,360
provides funds to the Columbus Franklin

6583
05:06:37,120 --> 05:06:41,360
County Finance Authority for their

6584
05:06:39,360 --> 05:06:43,440
continued partnership in providing gap

6585
05:06:41,360 --> 05:06:45,120
funding for projects within city's urban

6586
05:06:43,440 --> 05:06:47,280
core and adjacent neighborhoods in order

6587
05:06:45,120 --> 05:06:49,520
to facilitate projects that will assist

6588
05:06:47,280 --> 05:06:51,920
in the revitalization of properties.

6589
05:06:49,520 --> 05:06:54,320
This partnership helps fill funding gaps

6590
05:06:51,920 --> 05:06:56,240
for the redevelopment of smaller scale

6591
05:06:54,320 --> 05:06:58,400
projects in traditional neighborhood

6592
05:06:56,240 --> 05:07:00,560
corridors since urban redevelopment

6593
05:06:58,400 --> 05:07:02,798
projects often encounter issues not

6594
05:07:00,560 --> 05:07:05,760
experienced by new build projects or

6595
05:07:02,798 --> 05:07:07,040
projects uh not built on underdeveloped

6596
05:07:05,760 --> 05:07:08,400
land. Are there any questions or

6597
05:07:07,040 --> 05:07:09,520
comments from my colleagues? Seeing

6598
05:07:08,400 --> 05:07:11,120
none, I move for passage.

6599
05:07:09,520 --> 05:07:13,520
» Second caller.

6600
05:07:11,120 --> 05:07:16,240
» Thanks Denver Rosa Deia de Akar Dorance

6601
05:07:13,520 --> 05:07:17,360
Green Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

6602
05:07:16,240 --> 05:07:18,798
» Thank you council president. That's all

6603
05:07:17,360 --> 05:07:20,240
I have in my committees this evening.

6604
05:07:18,798 --> 05:07:21,360
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Next committee to

6605
05:07:20,240 --> 05:07:22,400
come before council is the public

6606
05:07:21,360 --> 05:07:24,000
service and transportation committee.

6607
05:07:22,400 --> 05:07:25,360
That committee is chair by council bro.

6608
05:07:24,000 --> 05:07:26,958
Councilman, the floor is yours.

6609
05:07:25,360 --> 05:07:30,798
» Good job, Council Member Benson. That

6610
05:07:26,958 --> 05:07:32,320
was impressive. Uh I have four items on

6611
05:07:30,798 --> 05:07:34,240
second reading, public services and

6612
05:07:32,320 --> 05:07:35,760
transportation. First is ordinance

6613
05:07:34,240 --> 05:07:37,760
14972026

6614
05:07:35,760 --> 05:07:40,400
to amend the 2025 capital improvement

6615
05:07:37,760 --> 05:07:42,160
budget to authorize the city auditor to

6616
05:07:40,400 --> 05:07:43,600
transfer funds between projects within

6617
05:07:42,160 --> 05:07:45,120
the streets and highways bond fund to

6618
05:07:43,600 --> 05:07:48,760
authorize the city auditor to

6619
05:07:45,120 --> 05:07:48,760
appropriate $324,460

6620
05:07:49,200 --> 05:07:52,240
within the federal transportation grants

6621
05:07:50,878 --> 05:07:54,400
fund to authorize the city attorney's

6622
05:07:52,240 --> 05:07:56,320
office real estate division to contract

6623
05:07:54,400 --> 05:07:58,560
for professional services relative to

6624
05:07:56,320 --> 05:08:02,080
the acquisition of fee simple title and

6625
05:07:58,560 --> 05:08:04,080
lesser interest in and to prop lesser

6626
05:08:02,080 --> 05:08:07,200
interest in and who property needed for

6627
05:08:04,080 --> 05:08:08,878
the bikeway uh state route 161 sawmill

6628
05:08:07,200 --> 05:08:10,560
to Thompson project to authorize the

6629
05:08:08,878 --> 05:08:12,000
city attorney's office real estate

6630
05:08:10,560 --> 05:08:14,000
division to negotiate with property

6631
05:08:12,000 --> 05:08:15,760
owners to acquire the additional rights

6632
05:08:14,000 --> 05:08:17,760
of way necessary to complete this

6633
05:08:15,760 --> 05:08:20,760
project to authorize the expenditure of

6634
05:08:17,760 --> 05:08:20,760
1,324,46056

6635
05:08:22,400 --> 05:08:25,760
from the streets and highways bond fund

6636
05:08:23,760 --> 05:08:28,000
for the federal transportation grant

6637
05:08:25,760 --> 05:08:30,000
fund and to declare an emergency. This

6638
05:08:28,000 --> 05:08:31,680
project is located on the Vision Zero

6639
05:08:30,000 --> 05:08:34,638
high injury network due to the number of

6640
05:08:31,680 --> 05:08:37,120
serious or fatal crashes and/or crashes

6641
05:08:34,638 --> 05:08:38,878
involving vulnerable roadway users like

6642
05:08:37,120 --> 05:08:41,680
people walking, biking or on

6643
05:08:38,878 --> 05:08:44,000
motorcycles. The bikeway

6644
05:08:41,680 --> 05:08:46,878
161 sawmill to Thompson in districts one

6645
05:08:44,000 --> 05:08:48,638
and two project consists of a new shared

6646
05:08:46,878 --> 05:08:51,680
use path along the north side of state

6647
05:08:48,638 --> 05:08:53,840
route 161 from Sawmill Road to Brookown

6648
05:08:51,680 --> 05:08:56,480
Drive and along the south side from

6649
05:08:53,840 --> 05:08:59,760
Brooktown Drive to Thompson Street with

6650
05:08:56,480 --> 05:09:02,320
sidewalk along the south side of 161

6651
05:08:59,760 --> 05:09:04,320
from Sawmill Road to Federated Boulevard

6652
05:09:02,320 --> 05:09:07,120
and the north side from McVey Boulevard

6653
05:09:04,320 --> 05:09:09,600
to Thompson Street. Uh this also

6654
05:09:07,120 --> 05:09:11,920
includes two pedestrian hybrid beacons

6655
05:09:09,600 --> 05:09:14,320
or push button pedestrian signals are

6656
05:09:11,920 --> 05:09:15,680
proposed at Brooktown and McVey. A

6657
05:09:14,320 --> 05:09:17,280
person who wants to cross the street can

6658
05:09:15,680 --> 05:09:19,680
push the button to activate the solid

6659
05:09:17,280 --> 05:09:22,480
red light that alerts motorists that the

6660
05:09:19,680 --> 05:09:24,718
crosswalk um is active so that

6661
05:09:22,480 --> 05:09:25,840
pedestrians can cross. Uh the Department

6662
05:09:24,718 --> 05:09:27,440
of Public Service is currently

6663
05:09:25,840 --> 05:09:29,440
finalizing construction plans and is

6664
05:09:27,440 --> 05:09:32,320
prepared to authorize rights of way

6665
05:09:29,440 --> 05:09:34,240
acquisition pending the passing passage

6666
05:09:32,320 --> 05:09:35,200
of this funding legislation. Do my

6667
05:09:34,240 --> 05:09:36,718
colleagues have any questions or

6668
05:09:35,200 --> 05:09:39,718
comments? Seeing none, I move for

6669
05:09:36,718 --> 05:09:39,718
passage.

6670
05:09:40,798 --> 05:09:44,958
» Thanks. Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar

6671
05:09:42,958 --> 05:09:46,000
Dorins Green Remy Ross Vice President

6672
05:09:44,958 --> 05:09:48,958
Harden.

6673
05:09:46,000 --> 05:09:52,000
» Thank you. Next is 1538 20226 to amend

6674
05:09:48,958 --> 05:09:53,360
the 2025 capital improvement budget to

6675
05:09:52,000 --> 05:09:55,200
appropriate funds within the federal

6676
05:09:53,360 --> 05:09:56,638
transportation grants fund to authorize

6677
05:09:55,200 --> 05:09:58,400
the director of public service to enter

6678
05:09:56,638 --> 05:10:00,718
into contract with Dector Construction

6679
05:09:58,400 --> 05:10:04,000
Company for the resurfacing downtown

6680
05:10:00,718 --> 05:10:09,000
concrete pad bus pad upgrades project to

6681
05:10:04,000 --> 05:10:09,000
authorize the expenditure of 1,250,8745

6682
05:10:10,480 --> 05:10:13,440
from the streets and highways bond fund

6683
05:10:12,080 --> 05:10:15,840
and the federal transportation grants

6684
05:10:13,440 --> 05:10:17,360
fund for the project to repay any unused

6685
05:10:15,840 --> 05:10:19,360
grant funds at the end of the project

6686
05:10:17,360 --> 05:10:22,160
and to declare an emergency. So, this

6687
05:10:19,360 --> 05:10:25,280
contract includes upgrading uh KOD bus

6688
05:10:22,160 --> 05:10:27,440
stops by adding concrete bus pads in 31

6689
05:10:25,280 --> 05:10:30,240
locations where they do not exist within

6690
05:10:27,440 --> 05:10:32,000
the Columbus downtown business district.

6691
05:10:30,240 --> 05:10:35,120
This is actually to fortify the

6692
05:10:32,000 --> 05:10:37,440
infrastructure on the streets to um

6693
05:10:35,120 --> 05:10:40,160
support the weight of the buses at these

6694
05:10:37,440 --> 05:10:42,560
uh bus stops. This is a project that we

6695
05:10:40,160 --> 05:10:44,560
are partnering with ODOT with and the

6696
05:10:42,560 --> 05:10:46,638
notice to proceed date is June 24th

6697
05:10:44,560 --> 05:10:48,400
2026. Do my colleagues have any

6698
05:10:46,638 --> 05:10:51,040
questions or comments? Seeing none, I

6699
05:10:48,400 --> 05:10:53,120
move for passage.

6700
05:10:51,040 --> 05:10:54,958
» Thanks Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawar

6701
05:10:53,120 --> 05:10:56,480
Dorance Green Remy Ross vice president

6702
05:10:54,958 --> 05:10:59,680
Harden.

6703
05:10:56,480 --> 05:11:00,958
» Thank you. Next is ordinance 16852026 to

6704
05:10:59,680 --> 05:11:02,560
authorize the director of the department

6705
05:11:00,958 --> 05:11:04,000
of finance and management to enter in a

6706
05:11:02,560 --> 05:11:06,240
contract with William Scotman

6707
05:11:04,000 --> 05:11:08,480
Incorporated doing business as Will

6708
05:11:06,240 --> 05:11:10,400
Scott for the purchase of one mobile

6709
05:11:08,480 --> 05:11:12,400
office unit to wave the competitive

6710
05:11:10,400 --> 05:11:16,000
busing provisions of Columbus City Code

6711
05:11:12,400 --> 05:11:17,920
to authorize the expenditure of $31,312

6712
05:11:16,000 --> 05:11:19,760
from the street construction maintenance

6713
05:11:17,920 --> 05:11:22,560
and repair fund and to declare an

6714
05:11:19,760 --> 05:11:26,480
emergency. The mobile office uh unit

6715
05:11:22,560 --> 05:11:27,920
houses city CDL training program that is

6716
05:11:26,480 --> 05:11:30,160
utilized by multiple departments. The

6717
05:11:27,920 --> 05:11:31,680
CDL training program ensures appropriate

6718
05:11:30,160 --> 05:11:33,840
staffing is available to perform the

6719
05:11:31,680 --> 05:11:35,440
vital functions needed to maintain city

6720
05:11:33,840 --> 05:11:37,760
streets. Their mobile office has been on

6721
05:11:35,440 --> 05:11:40,080
a rental service contract since June

6722
05:11:37,760 --> 05:11:41,840
2025. The ordinance will allow the city

6723
05:11:40,080 --> 05:11:43,920
to purchase the mobile office unit

6724
05:11:41,840 --> 05:11:45,360
trailer directly at a discounted rate

6725
05:11:43,920 --> 05:11:46,718
offered by the vendor instead of

6726
05:11:45,360 --> 05:11:48,560
continuing to rent, which will help to

6727
05:11:46,718 --> 05:11:49,600
preserve budgeted funds. Do my

6728
05:11:48,560 --> 05:11:53,680
colleagues have any questions or

6729
05:11:49,600 --> 05:11:55,760
comments? Seeing none, move for passage.

6730
05:11:53,680 --> 05:11:58,080
» Bankston, Barosa de Padilla de Akar,

6731
05:11:55,760 --> 05:11:59,120
Doris Green, Remy Ross White, President

6732
05:11:58,080 --> 05:11:59,920
I'm sorry.

6733
05:11:59,120 --> 05:12:01,680
» Thank you.

6734
05:11:59,920 --> 05:12:04,400
» I'm invited. Let me go back because I've

6735
05:12:01,680 --> 05:12:07,520
missed a couple names. Banks Barrosa

6736
05:12:04,400 --> 05:12:08,878
Deia de Aar Doris Green Remy Ross White

6737
05:12:07,520 --> 05:12:09,920
President Hart.

6738
05:12:08,878 --> 05:12:13,040
» Thank you.

6739
05:12:09,920 --> 05:12:16,080
» Thank you. Next, we have ordinance uh

6740
05:12:13,040 --> 05:12:18,160
1689 2026 to appropriate funds within

6741
05:12:16,080 --> 05:12:19,840
the Ohio Public Works Commission Grants

6742
05:12:18,160 --> 05:12:21,840
and Loans Fund to authorize the Director

6743
05:12:19,840 --> 05:12:23,200
of Public Service to enter into contract

6744
05:12:21,840 --> 05:12:25,680
with Complete General Construction

6745
05:12:23,200 --> 05:12:28,400
Company for the Signals North Fourth

6746
05:12:25,680 --> 05:12:32,440
Street phase 1 project to authorize the

6747
05:12:28,400 --> 05:12:32,440
expenditure of up to 4,5,75862

6748
05:12:33,840 --> 05:12:38,560
from the street construction maintenance

6749
05:12:35,600 --> 05:12:41,440
and repair fund and the OPWC

6750
05:12:38,560 --> 05:12:43,440
grants loans fund for the project and to

6751
05:12:41,440 --> 05:12:45,200
repay any unused grant funds at the end

6752
05:12:43,440 --> 05:12:47,280
of the grant period and to declare an

6753
05:12:45,200 --> 05:12:49,280
emergency. This contract includes

6754
05:12:47,280 --> 05:12:51,440
replacing and upgrading signals along

6755
05:12:49,280 --> 05:12:53,680
North Fourth Street at five

6756
05:12:51,440 --> 05:12:56,480
intersections. North Fourth Street, East

6757
05:12:53,680 --> 05:12:58,878
1st Avenue, East 2nd Avenue, East 5th

6758
05:12:56,480 --> 05:13:02,718
Avenue, East 7th Avenue, East 17th

6759
05:12:58,878 --> 05:13:04,718
Avenue in districts 7 and four. This

6760
05:13:02,718 --> 05:13:07,600
includes new signal poles, controllers,

6761
05:13:04,718 --> 05:13:09,520
wiring, uh radar detection poles,

6762
05:13:07,600 --> 05:13:11,840
incidental lighting, power distribution,

6763
05:13:09,520 --> 05:13:14,560
storm water, storm sewer, water, and

6764
05:13:11,840 --> 05:13:15,840
other works as may be necessary. Uh do

6765
05:13:14,560 --> 05:13:17,440
my colleagues have any questions or

6766
05:13:15,840 --> 05:13:20,798
comments.

6767
05:13:17,440 --> 05:13:22,878
Seeing none, I move for passage.

6768
05:13:20,798 --> 05:13:24,878
» Thanks, Timber Rosa, Deodia de Akar,

6769
05:13:22,878 --> 05:13:26,080
Dorance Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

6770
05:13:24,878 --> 05:13:29,040
Harden.

6771
05:13:26,080 --> 05:13:30,400
» Thank you. That's all for me.

6772
05:13:29,040 --> 05:13:31,360
is the neighborhood recreation and parks

6773
05:13:30,400 --> 05:13:32,560
committee chair by council member

6774
05:13:31,360 --> 05:13:33,280
Deakar. Council member, the floor is

6775
05:13:32,560 --> 05:13:35,280
yours.

6776
05:13:33,280 --> 05:13:38,320
» Thank you, council president. First, we

6777
05:13:35,280 --> 05:13:39,920
have ordinance 1731-2026

6778
05:13:38,320 --> 05:13:41,360
to authorize the Director of Recreation

6779
05:13:39,920 --> 05:13:42,798
and Parks to enter into a grant

6780
05:13:41,360 --> 05:13:45,360
agreement with the Ohio Department of

6781
05:13:42,798 --> 05:13:47,440
Transportation to support the Big Walnut

6782
05:13:45,360 --> 05:13:49,520
Trail Little Turtle to Cherry Bottom

6783
05:13:47,440 --> 05:13:53,400
Park project and accept a grant in the

6784
05:13:49,520 --> 05:13:53,400
amount of $7,92,344

6785
05:13:53,760 --> 05:13:57,600
to authorize the appropriation of

6786
05:13:55,280 --> 05:13:59,600
$7,92,344

6787
05:13:57,600 --> 05:14:02,320
in the recreation parks grant fund and

6788
05:13:59,600 --> 05:14:04,160
to declare an emergency. This grant that

6789
05:14:02,320 --> 05:14:06,718
the department has received from Warpsy

6790
05:14:04,160 --> 05:14:08,718
will pay for 70% of the total cost to

6791
05:14:06,718 --> 05:14:10,638
construct a new portion of the Big

6792
05:14:08,718 --> 05:14:12,878
Walnut Trail connecting Little Turtle

6793
05:14:10,638 --> 05:14:15,200
and Cherry Bottom Park in the northeast

6794
05:14:12,878 --> 05:14:17,680
area of the city. This trail includes an

6795
05:14:15,200 --> 05:14:20,320
underpass beneath beneath State Highway

6796
05:14:17,680 --> 05:14:22,480
161, a direct connection to Blendinwoods

6797
05:14:20,320 --> 05:14:24,000
Metrop Park, a stream crossing to

6798
05:14:22,480 --> 05:14:25,680
connect the Northland neighborhood on

6799
05:14:24,000 --> 05:14:27,680
the west side of the river, and a

6800
05:14:25,680 --> 05:14:30,160
section of trail along Sunbury Road

6801
05:14:27,680 --> 05:14:32,480
linking to the Alam Creek Trail. over

6802
05:14:30,160 --> 05:14:34,080
15,000 Columbus residents live in

6803
05:14:32,480 --> 05:14:36,638
neighborhoods served by this new trail

6804
05:14:34,080 --> 05:14:38,480
section. Once completed, the trail will

6805
05:14:36,638 --> 05:14:41,040
connect residents to retail, health

6806
05:14:38,480 --> 05:14:43,200
care, and over 40,000 jobs at major

6807
05:14:41,040 --> 05:14:45,600
destinations, including Easton and the

6808
05:14:43,200 --> 05:14:47,440
North Hamilton Road mixeduse corridor.

6809
05:14:45,600 --> 05:14:49,280
Construction is expected to begin in

6810
05:14:47,440 --> 05:14:50,400
fall of this year. Are there any

6811
05:14:49,280 --> 05:14:52,480
questions or comments from my

6812
05:14:50,400 --> 05:14:54,798
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

6813
05:14:52,480 --> 05:14:57,920
passage.

6814
05:14:54,798 --> 05:15:03,840
» Banks timber podia de a dwan green remy

6815
05:14:57,920 --> 05:15:05,680
ros reie ros vice president hard

6816
05:15:03,840 --> 05:15:07,440
» For the next ordinance in my committee.

6817
05:15:05,680 --> 05:15:09,440
I would like to turn the floor over to

6818
05:15:07,440 --> 05:15:11,520
council member Barosa de pedia to read

6819
05:15:09,440 --> 05:15:12,958
and call the vote as she has been a

6820
05:15:11,520 --> 05:15:14,560
leader in supporting the initiative

6821
05:15:12,958 --> 05:15:15,440
being funded. Council member the floor

6822
05:15:14,560 --> 05:15:18,480
is yours.

6823
05:15:15,440 --> 05:15:21,360
» Thank you chair and I'm back. Uh, next

6824
05:15:18,480 --> 05:15:23,120
are ordinance 1797206

6825
05:15:21,360 --> 05:15:25,040
to authorize and direct the city clerk

6826
05:15:23,120 --> 05:15:26,798
to enter a grant agreement with Epic

6827
05:15:25,040 --> 05:15:28,958
Youth to provide upfront financial

6828
05:15:26,798 --> 05:15:31,360
support for the organization's event,

6829
05:15:28,958 --> 05:15:32,798
the Girls Will Summit, commemorating the

6830
05:15:31,360 --> 05:15:34,718
International Day of the Girl to

6831
05:15:32,798 --> 05:15:38,160
authorize an expenditure from the

6832
05:15:34,718 --> 05:15:40,000
neighborhood sub fund. Um, I am very

6833
05:15:38,160 --> 05:15:42,160
proud to be a sponsor of this ordinance

6834
05:15:40,000 --> 05:15:44,400
and want to thank the women's caucus for

6835
05:15:42,160 --> 05:15:46,638
their support. This is the fourth year

6836
05:15:44,400 --> 05:15:48,638
that we will work with Epic Youth to

6837
05:15:46,638 --> 05:15:50,480
provide a free conference to girls in

6838
05:15:48,638 --> 05:15:52,480
Columbus City Schools. The conference

6839
05:15:50,480 --> 05:15:54,560
helped to helps to increase leadership

6840
05:15:52,480 --> 05:15:56,958
confidence, career awareness, STEM

6841
05:15:54,560 --> 05:15:58,400
exposure, and more to help students view

6842
05:15:56,958 --> 05:16:00,160
themselves as capable leaders and

6843
05:15:58,400 --> 05:16:02,480
professionals for academic, personal,

6844
05:16:00,160 --> 05:16:04,560
and professional success. We've done

6845
05:16:02,480 --> 05:16:06,080
amazing things. We've had a group of uh

6846
05:16:04,560 --> 05:16:09,280
students from Spellman that have

6847
05:16:06,080 --> 05:16:12,638
actually come to uh show we've had 4 to

6848
05:16:09,280 --> 05:16:14,400
500 girls to to um expose them to STEM.

6849
05:16:12,638 --> 05:16:17,280
They've learned everything from making

6850
05:16:14,400 --> 05:16:19,680
their own makeup to perfume to creating

6851
05:16:17,280 --> 05:16:21,760
beats and more and how STEM can be part

6852
05:16:19,680 --> 05:16:23,600
of their lives. So, we're very proud of

6853
05:16:21,760 --> 05:16:25,680
the work that we've been able to do and

6854
05:16:23,600 --> 05:16:29,040
I just want to thank my colleagues for

6855
05:16:25,680 --> 05:16:31,040
continuing to um support uh girls in

6856
05:16:29,040 --> 05:16:32,958
STEM, especially black and brown girls.

6857
05:16:31,040 --> 05:16:34,798
Uh, do my colleagues have any questions

6858
05:16:32,958 --> 05:16:36,878
or comments? Seeing none, I move for

6859
05:16:34,798 --> 05:16:39,360
passage.

6860
05:16:36,878 --> 05:16:42,160
» Thanks. Simba Rosa Deia de Aar Dors

6861
05:16:39,360 --> 05:16:45,120
Green Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

6862
05:16:42,160 --> 05:16:47,120
» Thank you. And thank you, Council

6863
05:16:45,120 --> 05:16:51,280
President. Our last ordinance in this

6864
05:16:47,120 --> 05:16:52,958
committee tonight is ordinance 1835-2026

6865
05:16:51,280 --> 05:16:55,120
to authorize the city clerk to enter

6866
05:16:52,958 --> 05:16:57,200
into a grant agreement with the National

6867
05:16:55,120 --> 05:16:59,600
Veterans Memorial and Museum Operating

6868
05:16:57,200 --> 05:17:01,520
Corporation to provide upfront financial

6869
05:16:59,600 --> 05:17:03,520
support for the September 11th day of

6870
05:17:01,520 --> 05:17:05,280
service to authorize an appropriation

6871
05:17:03,520 --> 05:17:07,120
and expenditure from the neighborhood

6872
05:17:05,280 --> 05:17:09,440
initiative sub fund and to declare an

6873
05:17:07,120 --> 05:17:11,440
emergency. This is the ordinance that I

6874
05:17:09,440 --> 05:17:13,520
referenced at the top of our meeting for

6875
05:17:11,440 --> 05:17:16,320
which Colonel Butler provided remarks.

6876
05:17:13,520 --> 05:17:18,878
So, I will be brief and just reiterate

6877
05:17:16,320 --> 05:17:20,958
that the Memorial Museum is looking to

6878
05:17:18,878 --> 05:17:23,520
evolve their traditional September 11th

6879
05:17:20,958 --> 05:17:26,320
remembrance efforts into a citywide call

6880
05:17:23,520 --> 05:17:28,320
to service and civic engagement. The 911

6881
05:17:26,320 --> 05:17:30,560
Day of Service will mobilize volunteers

6882
05:17:28,320 --> 05:17:32,638
and community organizations, activate

6883
05:17:30,560 --> 05:17:34,878
neighborhood-based service projects, and

6884
05:17:32,638 --> 05:17:37,120
deliver high impact service outcomes

6885
05:17:34,878 --> 05:17:39,120
directly benefiting those in need. The

6886
05:17:37,120 --> 05:17:42,320
cornerstone event will be a meal packing

6887
05:17:39,120 --> 05:17:44,400
service project hosted at NVMM, inviting

6888
05:17:42,320 --> 05:17:46,240
hundreds of volunteers across the city

6889
05:17:44,400 --> 05:17:47,840
to help support our food insecure

6890
05:17:46,240 --> 05:17:49,360
neighbors. I want to thank my

6891
05:17:47,840 --> 05:17:51,280
colleagues, council members Remy and

6892
05:17:49,360 --> 05:17:52,958
Ross, for supporting this impactful new

6893
05:17:51,280 --> 05:17:55,600
initiative, and I look forward to

6894
05:17:52,958 --> 05:17:57,120
honoring 911 in an exciting new way this

6895
05:17:55,600 --> 05:17:58,240
year in Columbus. Are there any

6896
05:17:57,120 --> 05:18:00,240
questions or comments from my

6897
05:17:58,240 --> 05:18:02,320
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

6898
05:18:00,240 --> 05:18:04,798
passage.

6899
05:18:02,320 --> 05:18:07,520
» Thanks. Barrosa de Padilla de aar dors

6900
05:18:04,798 --> 05:18:08,878
green remy Ross vice president Harden

6901
05:18:07,520 --> 05:18:10,240
» Thank you that's all for me council

6902
05:18:08,878 --> 05:18:11,440
president

6903
05:18:10,240 --> 05:18:12,638
» Thank you madam chair next committee

6904
05:18:11,440 --> 05:18:14,400
coming before council is the workforce

6905
05:18:12,638 --> 05:18:15,680
education labor committee chair press 10

6906
05:18:14,400 --> 05:18:18,320
president Tim the floor is yours

6907
05:18:15,680 --> 05:18:19,840
» Thank you first we have orders number um

6908
05:18:18,320 --> 05:18:21,120
1704-226

6909
05:18:19,840 --> 05:18:23,200
to approve a memory and understanding

6910
05:18:21,120 --> 05:18:24,798
number 2026-1

6911
05:18:23,200 --> 05:18:27,280
executed represent the city of Columbus

6912
05:18:24,798 --> 05:18:30,000
and the communication workers of America

6913
05:18:27,280 --> 05:18:31,520
local 452 to amend appendix B of the

6914
05:18:30,000 --> 05:18:34,560
collective bar agreement stated April

6915
05:18:31,520 --> 05:18:36,400
24th 2023 3 through April 23rd, 2026 by

6916
05:18:34,560 --> 05:18:38,320
creating a signing pay to the watershed

6917
05:18:36,400 --> 05:18:39,680
operations manager and wershed

6918
05:18:38,320 --> 05:18:40,878
maintenance supervisor classification

6919
05:18:39,680 --> 05:18:43,040
Columbus water and power and declared

6920
05:18:40,878 --> 05:18:44,400
emergency. Uh this legislation updates

6921
05:18:43,040 --> 05:18:47,840
the city bargaining agreements between

6922
05:18:44,400 --> 05:18:49,760
CWA local 452 to accept anou creating

6923
05:18:47,840 --> 05:18:51,280
the job classification wershed

6924
05:18:49,760 --> 05:18:53,120
operations manager and watershed

6925
05:18:51,280 --> 05:18:54,320
maintenance supervisor unless there's

6926
05:18:53,120 --> 05:18:56,560
any questions comments. I move for

6927
05:18:54,320 --> 05:18:58,958
passage.

6928
05:18:56,560 --> 05:19:01,600
» Thanks Timber Rosa Deodia de Aar Dors

6929
05:18:58,958 --> 05:19:02,878
Green Remy Ross vice president Harden.

6930
05:19:01,600 --> 05:19:05,360
Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

6931
05:19:02,878 --> 05:19:06,718
number 1897-226

6932
05:19:05,360 --> 05:19:08,240
to authorize the director office of

6933
05:19:06,718 --> 05:19:10,160
education to enter a nonfor-profit

6934
05:19:08,240 --> 05:19:11,280
service agreement contract with that no

6935
05:19:10,160 --> 05:19:12,798
can in support of Columbus promise

6936
05:19:11,280 --> 05:19:14,718
program to authorize reimbursement and

6937
05:19:12,798 --> 05:19:16,000
qualified expenditures incurred prior to

6938
05:19:14,718 --> 05:19:17,280
the creation of this purchase order to

6939
05:19:16,000 --> 05:19:20,000
authorize expensure within the general

6940
05:19:17,280 --> 05:19:22,000
fund of $1,333,53

6941
05:19:20,000 --> 05:19:23,600
to declare and declare an emergency. Uh

6942
05:19:22,000 --> 05:19:25,040
this legislation is service contract

6943
05:19:23,600 --> 05:19:26,958
support the great work of Columbus's

6944
05:19:25,040 --> 05:19:28,718
promise, a council initiative led by

6945
05:19:26,958 --> 05:19:29,840
council president Harden. I'd love to

6946
05:19:28,718 --> 05:19:31,040
turn the floor over to him and he's

6947
05:19:29,840 --> 05:19:33,360
shaking his head because it's late at

6948
05:19:31,040 --> 05:19:36,000
night. Uh want to thank him for his

6949
05:19:33,360 --> 05:19:36,958
leadership on this matter and unless

6950
05:19:36,000 --> 05:19:38,958
anyone else has any questions or

6951
05:19:36,958 --> 05:19:40,160
comments I will move for passage.

6952
05:19:38,958 --> 05:19:43,040
» Clerk please call the role.

6953
05:19:40,160 --> 05:19:44,400
» Banks Tim Rosa de Akar Dors Green Remy

6954
05:19:43,040 --> 05:19:46,400
Ross vice president Hart

6955
05:19:44,400 --> 05:19:46,878
» Pass. That's all I have my committee

6956
05:19:46,400 --> 05:19:48,638
sir.

6957
05:19:46,878 --> 05:19:50,958
» We go.

6958
05:19:48,638 --> 05:19:53,200
» Thank you Mr. Chair. Uh next committee

6959
05:19:50,958 --> 05:19:55,360
come before council is the health and

6960
05:19:53,200 --> 05:19:56,560
human services committee and equity

6961
05:19:55,360 --> 05:19:58,080
committee. Committee is chaired by

6962
05:19:56,560 --> 05:19:59,120
council member uh Green. Council member

6963
05:19:58,080 --> 05:20:00,480
Flojours.

6964
05:19:59,120 --> 05:20:01,680
» Thank you so much, Council President

6965
05:20:00,480 --> 05:20:03,360
Tainer, Health, Human Services, and

6966
05:20:01,680 --> 05:20:05,120
Equity Committee. We have one ordinance

6967
05:20:03,360 --> 05:20:06,798
on second reading. It's ordinance

6968
05:20:05,120 --> 05:20:08,080
1952-2026

6969
05:20:06,798 --> 05:20:10,798
to authorize the city clerk to enter

6970
05:20:08,080 --> 05:20:12,638
into an advanced payment grant agreement

6971
05:20:10,798 --> 05:20:14,160
with uh Columbus Coalition for the

6972
05:20:12,638 --> 05:20:15,840
Homeless in support of trash removal,

6973
05:20:14,160 --> 05:20:18,000
safe storage, and hygiene initiatives

6974
05:20:15,840 --> 05:20:19,440
for the city's unsheltered population to

6975
05:20:18,000 --> 05:20:22,000
authorize the [snorts] appropriation of

6976
05:20:19,440 --> 05:20:25,040
$17,500

6977
05:20:22,000 --> 05:20:28,080
and expenditure of $125,000 within the

6978
05:20:25,040 --> 05:20:30,160
neighborhood initiative sub fund. Um, if

6979
05:20:28,080 --> 05:20:32,560
there are no comments or questions from

6980
05:20:30,160 --> 05:20:35,280
my colleagues, I move to postpone this

6981
05:20:32,560 --> 05:20:35,920
ordinance to council's June 29th agenda.

6982
05:20:35,280 --> 05:20:37,600
Second,

6983
05:20:35,920 --> 05:20:40,240
» Clerk, please call the row.

6984
05:20:37,600 --> 05:20:43,120
» Thanks, Tim. Rosa, deodia de a dors

6985
05:20:40,240 --> 05:20:44,480
green, Remy Ross, vice president Harden.

6986
05:20:43,120 --> 05:20:45,680
» Postponed to June 29th.

6987
05:20:44,480 --> 05:20:46,480
» Thank you so much, Council President.

6988
05:20:45,680 --> 05:20:48,080
That's all for me.

6989
05:20:46,480 --> 05:20:49,440
» Thank you, Madam Chair. Next committee

6990
05:20:48,080 --> 05:20:50,638
to come before council is the public

6991
05:20:49,440 --> 05:20:51,680
safety and criminal justice committee.

6992
05:20:50,638 --> 05:20:54,080
That committee is chair by council

6993
05:20:51,680 --> 05:20:54,480
member uh Remy. Council member, floor is

6994
05:20:54,080 --> 05:20:55,520
yours.

6995
05:20:54,480 --> 05:20:56,638
» Thank you very much, council president.

6996
05:20:55,520 --> 05:20:58,000
Tonight in the public safety and

6997
05:20:56,638 --> 05:20:59,920
criminal justice committee, I have seven

6998
05:20:58,000 --> 05:21:02,400
ordinances for second read. First is

6999
05:20:59,920 --> 05:21:04,160
1563 2026 to authorize and direct the

7000
05:21:02,400 --> 05:21:07,200
city attorney to settle the lawsuit

7001
05:21:04,160 --> 05:21:09,760
captioned Rack Ruan Freeman versus City

7002
05:21:07,200 --> 05:21:13,360
of Columbus at all Franklin County

7003
05:21:09,760 --> 05:21:15,920
Police Court case number 25c 5292 to

7004
05:21:13,360 --> 05:21:18,878
authorize the expenditure of sum of

7005
05:21:15,920 --> 05:21:20,878
$75,000 in settlement of this lawsuit to

7006
05:21:18,878 --> 05:21:22,878
authorize the payment or excuse me the

7007
05:21:20,878 --> 05:21:25,040
transfer of 75,000 from the general fund

7008
05:21:22,878 --> 05:21:26,798
and to declare an emergency. I would

7009
05:21:25,040 --> 05:21:27,920
like to turn it over to Brian Shin, the

7010
05:21:26,798 --> 05:21:29,120
deputy chief of staff at the city

7011
05:21:27,920 --> 05:21:30,878
attorney's office to give us a little

7012
05:21:29,120 --> 05:21:32,958
bit more details on this.

7013
05:21:30,878 --> 05:21:35,760
» Chair Reie, Council President, members

7014
05:21:32,958 --> 05:21:38,320
of council. Mr. Freeman was a passenger

7015
05:21:35,760 --> 05:21:41,280
in a vehicle that was involved in an

7016
05:21:38,320 --> 05:21:43,440
automobile accident with a city employee

7017
05:21:41,280 --> 05:21:46,320
driving a city-owned vehicle during the

7018
05:21:43,440 --> 05:21:48,718
course of his employment. lawsuit was

7019
05:21:46,320 --> 05:21:52,160
filed in common please court seeking

7020
05:21:48,718 --> 05:21:54,798
damages for bodily injury requiring

7021
05:21:52,160 --> 05:21:57,200
medical treatment and physical therapy.

7022
05:21:54,798 --> 05:22:00,160
Planiff also asserted claims for lost

7023
05:21:57,200 --> 05:22:02,718
wages. After discovery, the city

7024
05:22:00,160 --> 05:22:04,718
attorney's office determined that there

7025
05:22:02,718 --> 05:22:07,440
was a likelihood that the city could be

7026
05:22:04,718 --> 05:22:10,240
held liable and ordered to pay an award

7027
05:22:07,440 --> 05:22:12,320
of damages to the plaintiff. Therefore,

7028
05:22:10,240 --> 05:22:15,120
it is in the best interest of the city

7029
05:22:12,320 --> 05:22:18,160
to settle this lawsuit and we

7030
05:22:15,120 --> 05:22:20,240
respectfully request council's approval.

7031
05:22:18,160 --> 05:22:22,080
I would be happy to answer any

7032
05:22:20,240 --> 05:22:24,400
questions.

7033
05:22:22,080 --> 05:22:25,600
» Thank you very much, Mr. Shin. I'm going

7034
05:22:24,400 --> 05:22:27,120
to turn over to Deputy Director

7035
05:22:25,600 --> 05:22:29,840
Hollerin. Can you speak to whether or

7036
05:22:27,120 --> 05:22:31,840
not uh there were any disciplines issued

7037
05:22:29,840 --> 05:22:33,200
in this case and in general how we're

7038
05:22:31,840 --> 05:22:35,600
trying to avoid these types of

7039
05:22:33,200 --> 05:22:37,360
situations in the future?

7040
05:22:35,600 --> 05:22:40,400
» President Harden, Chair Reie, thank you.

7041
05:22:37,360 --> 05:22:42,080
Uh yes, there was a discipline issued a

7042
05:22:40,400 --> 05:22:46,160
written reprimand to the individual

7043
05:22:42,080 --> 05:22:48,080
driver of the vehicle. Um since uh over

7044
05:22:46,160 --> 05:22:50,160
the last six to eight months, the

7045
05:22:48,080 --> 05:22:54,718
division of fire has made several

7046
05:22:50,160 --> 05:22:56,718
changes to its its uh policy and driving

7047
05:22:54,718 --> 05:22:58,958
operations. First thing they've done is

7048
05:22:56,718 --> 05:23:01,440
updated the driving policy. They've

7049
05:22:58,958 --> 05:23:03,440
issued video training. They've required

7050
05:23:01,440 --> 05:23:06,000
driving credential to be renewed when

7051
05:23:03,440 --> 05:23:08,560
firefighter credential is renewed, which

7052
05:23:06,000 --> 05:23:12,000
uh includes reviewing the driving policy

7053
05:23:08,560 --> 05:23:14,000
and taking driving um related classes.

7054
05:23:12,000 --> 05:23:16,000
They've also issued a job performance

7055
05:23:14,000 --> 05:23:17,920
skill sheets related to driving and

7056
05:23:16,000 --> 05:23:19,520
training new and existing firefighters,

7057
05:23:17,920 --> 05:23:21,920
including those in need of remedial

7058
05:23:19,520 --> 05:23:23,920
training um on those specific job

7059
05:23:21,920 --> 05:23:26,160
performance skill sheets. And they've

7060
05:23:23,920 --> 05:23:28,400
also the division of fires also updated

7061
05:23:26,160 --> 05:23:30,718
the division's crash accountability

7062
05:23:28,400 --> 05:23:33,360
procedures to ensure that there's a

7063
05:23:30,718 --> 05:23:35,200
consistent review of the cause of the

7064
05:23:33,360 --> 05:23:36,958
crash and if there's any training or

7065
05:23:35,200 --> 05:23:38,400
policy changes that could be made

7066
05:23:36,958 --> 05:23:40,240
systematically

7067
05:23:38,400 --> 05:23:41,760
» Thank you very much deputy director do

7068
05:23:40,240 --> 05:23:43,760
any of my colleagues have any questions

7069
05:23:41,760 --> 05:23:45,040
or comments seeing none I move for

7070
05:23:43,760 --> 05:23:46,080
passage

7071
05:23:45,040 --> 05:23:48,878
» Please call the role

7072
05:23:46,080 --> 05:23:50,240
» Thanks temposia de a dor screen remy

7073
05:23:48,878 --> 05:23:52,320
boss vice president Harden

7074
05:23:50,240 --> 05:23:54,160
» Pass next3

7075
05:23:52,320 --> 05:23:55,840
2026 to authorize the expenditure of

7076
05:23:54,160 --> 05:23:57,440
210,000 from the general fund for the

7077
05:23:55,840 --> 05:23:59,040
third year of a three-year contract with

7078
05:23:57,440 --> 05:24:01,280
Sound Thinking, Inc., formerly Shot

7079
05:23:59,040 --> 05:24:03,520
Spotter, Inc. for use of a gun detection

7080
05:24:01,280 --> 05:24:05,520
alert and analysis program in the phase

7081
05:24:03,520 --> 05:24:06,878
2 coverage area to wave the competitive

7082
05:24:05,520 --> 05:24:08,958
bidding provisions of the Columbus City

7083
05:24:06,878 --> 05:24:10,718
Code and to declare an emergency. This

7084
05:24:08,958 --> 05:24:12,320
ordinance authorizes the funding for the

7085
05:24:10,718 --> 05:24:14,480
third year of the subscriptionbased

7086
05:24:12,320 --> 05:24:17,440
service, which will run from June 30th,

7087
05:24:14,480 --> 05:24:18,638
2026 through June 29th, 2027. A bid

7088
05:24:17,440 --> 05:24:20,000
waiver is requested due to the

7089
05:24:18,638 --> 05:24:22,000
established relationship and the

7090
05:24:20,000 --> 05:24:24,000
existing technology in place. Emergency

7091
05:24:22,000 --> 05:24:26,480
action is requested to continue sound

7092
05:24:24,000 --> 05:24:28,080
thinking services without interruption.

7093
05:24:26,480 --> 05:24:30,560
Are there any questions or comments from

7094
05:24:28,080 --> 05:24:31,040
my colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

7095
05:24:30,560 --> 05:24:32,240
passage.

7096
05:24:31,040 --> 05:24:33,440
» Second.

7097
05:24:32,240 --> 05:24:36,718
» Please call the role.

7098
05:24:33,440 --> 05:24:37,840
» Bank Rosia de Akar Dors Green Remy Ross,

7099
05:24:36,718 --> 05:24:38,320
Vice President Harden.

7100
05:24:37,840 --> 05:24:41,200
» Pass.

7101
05:24:38,320 --> 05:24:45,480
» Next. 1637 20226 to authorize and direct

7102
05:24:41,200 --> 05:24:45,480
the city auditor to transfer 5,10,5776

7103
05:24:46,000 --> 05:24:49,520
within various projects of the safety

7104
05:24:47,600 --> 05:24:51,280
voted bond fund to amend the 2025

7105
05:24:49,520 --> 05:24:52,638
capital improvement budget to weigh the

7106
05:24:51,280 --> 05:24:54,560
competitive bidding provisions of the

7107
05:24:52,638 --> 05:24:55,920
Columbus City Code Chapter 329 to

7108
05:24:54,560 --> 05:24:58,160
authorize the finance and management

7109
05:24:55,920 --> 05:25:00,000
director to enter into a contract with

7110
05:24:58,160 --> 05:25:01,600
and issue a purchase order to Atlantic

7111
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:04,240
Emergency Solutions Inc. for the

7112
05:25:01,600 --> 05:25:05,440
purchase of four Pierce Enforcer pumpers

7113
05:25:04,240 --> 05:25:07,760
to authorize the expenditure of

7114
05:25:05,440 --> 05:25:12,080
$5,10,000

7115
05:25:07,760 --> 05:25:14,320
$976 from the voter safety voted voted

7116
05:25:12,080 --> 05:25:15,440
bond fund and to declare an emergency. I

7117
05:25:14,320 --> 05:25:17,600
want to announce that we are going to

7118
05:25:15,440 --> 05:25:20,400
postpone this ordinance till the June

7119
05:25:17,600 --> 05:25:21,920
29th hearing. Um sorry council meeting

7120
05:25:20,400 --> 05:25:24,638
because we have a hearing this week and

7121
05:25:21,920 --> 05:25:26,718
we'd like to consider this during that

7122
05:25:24,638 --> 05:25:28,878
hearing. Um it'll allow us to take

7123
05:25:26,718 --> 05:25:30,320
additional time to understand the needs

7124
05:25:28,878 --> 05:25:32,400
of our fire department. So with that I

7125
05:25:30,320 --> 05:25:33,760
move for to postpone till the June 29th

7126
05:25:32,400 --> 05:25:34,958
council meeting.

7127
05:25:33,760 --> 05:25:37,520
» Clerk please call the row.

7128
05:25:34,958 --> 05:25:39,680
» Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

7129
05:25:37,520 --> 05:25:40,560
Green Remy Ross W President Harden

7130
05:25:39,680 --> 05:25:42,958
» Postponed.

7131
05:25:40,560 --> 05:25:44,638
» Next is 1759 2026 to authorize the

7132
05:25:42,958 --> 05:25:46,000
finance management director to associate

7133
05:25:44,638 --> 05:25:47,360
all general budget reservations

7134
05:25:46,000 --> 05:25:49,040
resulting from this ordinance with the

7135
05:25:47,360 --> 05:25:51,280
appropriate universal term contract

7136
05:25:49,040 --> 05:25:53,040
purchase agreement established with Axon

7137
05:25:51,280 --> 05:25:55,200
Enterprise Inc. for the lease and

7138
05:25:53,040 --> 05:25:56,798
maintenance of bodywn cameras, CEWs,

7139
05:25:55,200 --> 05:25:58,638
interview room cameras, and accessory

7140
05:25:56,798 --> 05:26:00,160
software license maintenance and support

7141
05:25:58,638 --> 05:26:03,360
of the Division of Police to authorize

7142
05:26:00,160 --> 05:26:05,280
the expenditure of $4,478,18

7143
05:26:03,360 --> 05:26:07,120
from the general fund and to declare an

7144
05:26:05,280 --> 05:26:08,958
emergency. This ordinance sets aside

7145
05:26:07,120 --> 05:26:10,560
funding for bodywn cameras, tasers,

7146
05:26:08,958 --> 05:26:12,638
interview room cameras, and the

7147
05:26:10,560 --> 05:26:14,000
associated software licensing and

7148
05:26:12,638 --> 05:26:15,520
support for the Division of Police.

7149
05:26:14,000 --> 05:26:17,280
Emergency action is requested to

7150
05:26:15,520 --> 05:26:19,120
maintain daily operations and ensure

7151
05:26:17,280 --> 05:26:20,480
timely development of this equipment.

7152
05:26:19,120 --> 05:26:22,080
Are there any questions or comments from

7153
05:26:20,480 --> 05:26:23,120
my colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

7154
05:26:22,080 --> 05:26:24,080
passage. Cler,

7155
05:26:23,120 --> 05:26:27,040
» Please call the role.

7156
05:26:24,080 --> 05:26:29,200
» Bank Simberia de Akar Dors Green Remy

7157
05:26:27,040 --> 05:26:31,840
Ross W President Harden

7158
05:26:29,200 --> 05:26:33,040
» Passed. Next is 1854 2026 to authorize

7159
05:26:31,840 --> 05:26:34,718
the director of the Department of Public

7160
05:26:33,040 --> 05:26:36,400
Safety to enter into a contract with

7161
05:26:34,718 --> 05:26:38,718
Carasoft

7162
05:26:36,400 --> 05:26:41,200
Technology Corporation to renew Celbrite

7163
05:26:38,718 --> 05:26:43,600
software licenses used to extract

7164
05:26:41,200 --> 05:26:44,958
digital evidence from cellular devices

7165
05:26:43,600 --> 05:26:46,638
to wave the competitive bidding

7166
05:26:44,958 --> 05:26:50,480
provisions of the Columbus City Code to

7167
05:26:46,638 --> 05:26:52,400
authorize the expenditure of $330,687.75

7168
05:26:50,480 --> 05:26:54,560
for the law enforcement seizure fund and

7169
05:26:52,400 --> 05:26:56,320
to declare an emergency. This ordinance

7170
05:26:54,560 --> 05:26:59,120
authorized the renewal of a software

7171
05:26:56,320 --> 05:27:01,440
that allows the digital forensics unit

7172
05:26:59,120 --> 05:27:03,920
to unlock and decrypt phones in order to

7173
05:27:01,440 --> 05:27:05,840
extract digital digital evidence linking

7174
05:27:03,920 --> 05:27:08,320
suspects to crime. A bid waiver is

7175
05:27:05,840 --> 05:27:09,920
requested because celbrite is the only

7176
05:27:08,320 --> 05:27:12,000
software compatible with the unit's

7177
05:27:09,920 --> 05:27:13,520
existing equipment. Emergency action is

7178
05:27:12,000 --> 05:27:15,200
requested to renew the license before

7179
05:27:13,520 --> 05:27:17,280
the deadline and avoid disruption to

7180
05:27:15,200 --> 05:27:18,240
ongoing investigations. Are there any

7181
05:27:17,280 --> 05:27:19,760
questions or comments from my

7182
05:27:18,240 --> 05:27:20,798
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

7183
05:27:19,760 --> 05:27:21,840
passage.

7184
05:27:20,798 --> 05:27:24,718
» Please call the role.

7185
05:27:21,840 --> 05:27:26,080
» Thanks. Dia de Aar Dorren Green Remy

7186
05:27:24,718 --> 05:27:26,638
Ross vice president Hart

7187
05:27:26,080 --> 05:27:28,958
» Pass.

7188
05:27:26,638 --> 05:27:30,400
» Next is 1857 2026 to authorize the

7189
05:27:28,958 --> 05:27:31,840
director of public safety to enter into

7190
05:27:30,400 --> 05:27:34,000
a contract for maintenance and repair

7191
05:27:31,840 --> 05:27:35,600
services for the division of police

7192
05:27:34,000 --> 05:27:37,600
crime lab instruments with life

7193
05:27:35,600 --> 05:27:38,878
technologies corporation to wave the

7194
05:27:37,600 --> 05:27:40,240
competitive bidding provisions of the

7195
05:27:38,878 --> 05:27:43,280
Columbus city code to authorize the

7196
05:27:40,240 --> 05:27:44,878
expenditure of $72,89.32

7197
05:27:43,280 --> 05:27:46,320
from the general fund and to declare an

7198
05:27:44,878 --> 05:27:47,840
emergency. This ordinance [snorts]

7199
05:27:46,320 --> 05:27:49,520
authorizes maintenance and repair of

7200
05:27:47,840 --> 05:27:52,000
equipment used to process and present

7201
05:27:49,520 --> 05:27:53,360
evidence for criminal prosecution. A bid

7202
05:27:52,000 --> 05:27:54,878
waiver is requested because Life

7203
05:27:53,360 --> 05:27:56,480
Technologies Corporation is a sole

7204
05:27:54,878 --> 05:27:58,240
manufacturer and provider of maintenance

7205
05:27:56,480 --> 05:28:00,718
services for the equipment. Emergency

7206
05:27:58,240 --> 05:28:02,638
action is requested to renew the service

7207
05:28:00,718 --> 05:28:03,840
agreement before it expires. Are there

7208
05:28:02,638 --> 05:28:05,600
any questions or comments from my

7209
05:28:03,840 --> 05:28:06,798
colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

7210
05:28:05,600 --> 05:28:07,680
passage.

7211
05:28:06,798 --> 05:28:10,718
» Please call the role.

7212
05:28:07,680 --> 05:28:13,280
» Thanks. Deborrosa de Akawas Green Remy

7213
05:28:10,718 --> 05:28:15,680
Ross Vice President Harden pass. And

7214
05:28:13,280 --> 05:28:16,958
finally, I have 1841 2026 to authorize

7215
05:28:15,680 --> 05:28:18,480
the director of the office of violence

7216
05:28:16,958 --> 05:28:20,718
prevention to enter into contract with

7217
05:28:18,480 --> 05:28:22,480
the center of ch child and family

7218
05:28:20,718 --> 05:28:24,480
advocacy at Nationwide Children's

7219
05:28:22,480 --> 05:28:26,958
Hospital for Domestic Violence Support

7220
05:28:24,480 --> 05:28:28,558
Services related to the advocacy crisis

7221
05:28:26,958 --> 05:28:30,320
team program in partnership with the

7222
05:28:28,558 --> 05:28:32,000
Columbus Division of Police to authorize

7223
05:28:30,320 --> 05:28:33,360
the expenditure of 300,000 from the

7224
05:28:32,000 --> 05:28:35,200
general fund and to declare an

7225
05:28:33,360 --> 05:28:36,638
emergency. I move to postpone to the

7226
05:28:35,200 --> 05:28:38,878
June 29th agenda.

7227
05:28:36,638 --> 05:28:41,360
» Second, please call the row.

7228
05:28:38,878 --> 05:28:43,520
» Thanks. Next roa de padia de aar dors

7229
05:28:41,360 --> 05:28:45,360
green remy ros president Harden

7230
05:28:43,520 --> 05:28:46,480
» Postponed and with that thank you that

7231
05:28:45,360 --> 05:28:48,240
is all I have this

7232
05:28:46,480 --> 05:28:50,080
» Thank you mr chair final committee come

7233
05:28:48,240 --> 05:28:51,360
for council is the public utilities and

7234
05:28:50,080 --> 05:28:53,440
sustainability committee chaired by

7235
05:28:51,360 --> 05:28:54,160
council member white council member the

7236
05:28:53,440 --> 05:28:55,840
floor is yours

7237
05:28:54,160 --> 05:28:57,120
» Thank you council [snorts] president uh

7238
05:28:55,840 --> 05:28:58,320
tonight in public utilities and

7239
05:28:57,120 --> 05:29:01,200
sustainability committee I have

7240
05:28:58,320 --> 05:29:02,718
ordinance 1425-2026

7241
05:29:01,200 --> 05:29:04,558
to authorize the director of public

7242
05:29:02,718 --> 05:29:07,280
utilities to enter into a construction

7243
05:29:04,558 --> 05:29:09,360
contract with driven excavating LLC for

7244
05:29:07,280 --> 05:29:11,760
the Velma Avenue area waterline

7245
05:29:09,360 --> 05:29:13,760
improvements project to amend the 2025

7246
05:29:11,760 --> 05:29:15,680
capital improvement budget to authorize

7247
05:29:13,760 --> 05:29:17,680
the director of public utilities to

7248
05:29:15,680 --> 05:29:19,840
apply for and accept a loan from the

7249
05:29:17,680 --> 05:29:21,840
Ohio Water Development Authority direct

7250
05:29:19,840 --> 05:29:23,280
loan program for the Young's Drive area

7251
05:29:21,840 --> 05:29:24,878
waterline improvements project to

7252
05:29:23,280 --> 05:29:27,280
appropriate funds within the water

7253
05:29:24,878 --> 05:29:29,440
freshwater market rate fund to authorize

7254
05:29:27,280 --> 05:29:32,440
the appropriation expenditure of up to

7255
05:29:29,440 --> 05:29:32,440
5,914,181

7256
05:29:33,520 --> 05:29:37,120
from the waterfresh water market rate

7257
05:29:35,360 --> 05:29:38,718
fund for the contract to make this

7258
05:29:37,120 --> 05:29:40,558
ordinance contingent upon Ohio Water

7259
05:29:38,718 --> 05:29:42,000
Development Authority approving a loan

7260
05:29:40,558 --> 05:29:44,160
for the project and to authorize the

7261
05:29:42,000 --> 05:29:46,480
expenditure of up to two $2,000 from the

7262
05:29:44,160 --> 05:29:48,638
water bond fund to pay for prevailing

7263
05:29:46,480 --> 05:29:50,958
wage services. This project consists of

7264
05:29:48,638 --> 05:29:53,200
the installation of approximately 10,000

7265
05:29:50,958 --> 05:29:54,958
plus linear feet of new water manes as

7266
05:29:53,200 --> 05:29:56,958
well as the replacement of privately

7267
05:29:54,958 --> 05:29:58,718
owned lead service lines. This project

7268
05:29:56,958 --> 05:30:00,638
will improve water service, reduce

7269
05:29:58,718 --> 05:30:02,160
burden on water maintenance operations,

7270
05:30:00,638 --> 05:30:03,520
and minimize water [clears throat] loss.

7271
05:30:02,160 --> 05:30:05,280
Let me stop there, see if any questions

7272
05:30:03,520 --> 05:30:07,600
or comments from my colleagues. Seeing

7273
05:30:05,280 --> 05:30:08,638
none, I move for passage. clerk please

7274
05:30:07,600 --> 05:30:10,798
call the role.

7275
05:30:08,638 --> 05:30:12,878
» Thanks Timber Roso Deadia de Aka or

7276
05:30:10,798 --> 05:30:13,520
Doris Green Remy Ross Swice President

7277
05:30:12,878 --> 05:30:15,040
Harden

7278
05:30:13,520 --> 05:30:17,200
» Passed. Thank you. The next two

7279
05:30:15,040 --> 05:30:19,680
ordinances procure construction

7280
05:30:17,200 --> 05:30:21,600
administration and inspection services

7281
05:30:19,680 --> 05:30:23,760
for two specified division of water

7282
05:30:21,600 --> 05:30:25,360
reclamation projects. Uh these services

7283
05:30:23,760 --> 05:30:26,798
will ensure that the projects remain on

7284
05:30:25,360 --> 05:30:28,400
track and adhere to contract

7285
05:30:26,798 --> 05:30:30,958
specifications. So, first I have

7286
05:30:28,400 --> 05:30:32,718
ordinance 1459-2026

7287
05:30:30,958 --> 05:30:34,558
to authorize the director of public

7288
05:30:32,718 --> 05:30:35,840
utilities to enter into a gaunt track

7289
05:30:34,558 --> 05:30:37,920
modification for construction

7290
05:30:35,840 --> 05:30:40,240
administration and inspection services

7291
05:30:37,920 --> 05:30:42,480
with DLZ Ohio Incorporated for the

7292
05:30:40,240 --> 05:30:44,080
blueprint one Palmetto Westgate

7293
05:30:42,480 --> 05:30:45,600
permeable pavers and waterline

7294
05:30:44,080 --> 05:30:47,440
improvements project and for the

7295
05:30:45,600 --> 05:30:51,600
construction administration services

7296
05:30:47,440 --> 05:30:53,360
2026 to 2028 to amend the 2025 capital

7297
05:30:51,600 --> 05:30:55,200
improvement budget to authorize the

7298
05:30:53,360 --> 05:30:56,958
appropriation and expenditure of up to

7299
05:30:55,200 --> 05:31:00,718
1,250,4

7300
05:30:56,958 --> 05:31:03,200
$410.83 83 from the water pollution

7301
05:31:00,718 --> 05:31:07,558
control loan fund and an appropriation

7302
05:31:03,200 --> 05:31:07,558
and expenditure of up to $453,14347

7303
05:31:08,400 --> 05:31:13,120
from the water freshwater market rate

7304
05:31:10,558 --> 05:31:14,638
fund for the contract modification to

7305
05:31:13,120 --> 05:31:16,400
authorize the director of public

7306
05:31:14,638 --> 05:31:18,878
utilities to apply for and accept a loan

7307
05:31:16,400 --> 05:31:21,120
from the water freshwater market for the

7308
05:31:18,878 --> 05:31:24,240
Palmet Palmetto Westgate waterline

7309
05:31:21,120 --> 05:31:26,000
improvements project and to make this

7310
05:31:24,240 --> 05:31:27,360
ordinance contingent upon the Ohio Water

7311
05:31:26,000 --> 05:31:29,120
Development Authority approving a loan

7312
05:31:27,360 --> 05:31:30,240
for the project. Let me stop there. See

7313
05:31:29,120 --> 05:31:31,920
if any questions or comments from my

7314
05:31:30,240 --> 05:31:33,120
colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

7315
05:31:31,920 --> 05:31:34,240
passage.

7316
05:31:33,120 --> 05:31:36,718
» Please call the role.

7317
05:31:34,240 --> 05:31:38,798
» Thanks. Temper Rosa Deia de Akaw Dors

7318
05:31:36,718 --> 05:31:40,240
Green Remy Ross swipes. President Harden

7319
05:31:38,798 --> 05:31:42,400
» Pass. Thank you. And next I have

7320
05:31:40,240 --> 05:31:43,840
1475-2026

7321
05:31:42,400 --> 05:31:45,840
to authorize the director of public

7322
05:31:43,840 --> 05:31:47,200
utilities to enter into a contract

7323
05:31:45,840 --> 05:31:49,600
modification for the construction

7324
05:31:47,200 --> 05:31:52,160
administration inspection services 2026

7325
05:31:49,600 --> 05:31:54,400
2028 contract with Hatch Associates

7326
05:31:52,160 --> 05:31:56,000
Consultants Incorporated for the Belmont

7327
05:31:54,400 --> 05:31:57,360
Avenue Area Waterline Improvements

7328
05:31:56,000 --> 05:32:00,718
Project and for the Construction

7329
05:31:57,360 --> 05:32:03,040
Administration services 2026 to 2028

7330
05:32:00,718 --> 05:32:04,480
project to add additional funding to

7331
05:32:03,040 --> 05:32:06,080
authorize the director of public

7332
05:32:04,480 --> 05:32:07,440
utilities to apply for and accept a loan

7333
05:32:06,080 --> 05:32:09,280
from the Ohio Water Development

7334
05:32:07,440 --> 05:32:11,120
Authority Direct Loan Program. program

7335
05:32:09,280 --> 05:32:12,558
for the Youngs Drive area water line

7336
05:32:11,120 --> 05:32:14,718
improvements project to appropriate

7337
05:32:12,558 --> 05:32:17,280
funds within the water freshwater market

7338
05:32:14,718 --> 05:32:18,798
rate fund to amend the 2025 capital

7339
05:32:17,280 --> 05:32:20,160
improvement budget to authorize a

7340
05:32:18,798 --> 05:32:21,920
transfer of cash and appropriation

7341
05:32:20,160 --> 05:32:23,920
between projects within the water bond

7342
05:32:21,920 --> 05:32:26,320
fund to authorize the appropriation and

7343
05:32:23,920 --> 05:32:28,638
expenditure of up to 1,300,000

7344
05:32:26,320 --> 05:32:31,040
from the water freshwater market rate

7345
05:32:28,638 --> 05:32:32,798
fund and an expenditure of up to 75,000

7346
05:32:31,040 --> 05:32:34,480
from the water bond fund for the

7347
05:32:32,798 --> 05:32:35,760
contract and to make this ordinance

7348
05:32:34,480 --> 05:32:37,440
contingent upon the Ohio Water

7349
05:32:35,760 --> 05:32:38,958
Development Authority approving a loan

7350
05:32:37,440 --> 05:32:40,240
for the project. Let me stop there. See

7351
05:32:38,958 --> 05:32:42,160
if any questions or comments from my

7352
05:32:40,240 --> 05:32:43,040
colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

7353
05:32:42,160 --> 05:32:44,558
passage.

7354
05:32:43,040 --> 05:32:47,120
» Cler, please call the role.

7355
05:32:44,558 --> 05:32:48,878
» Pton Barrosa, Deodia, de AOA, Dorance

7356
05:32:47,120 --> 05:32:49,680
Green, Remy Ross, Switz, President

7357
05:32:48,878 --> 05:32:53,120
Harden.

7358
05:32:49,680 --> 05:32:54,878
» Thank you. Next, I have 1533-2026

7359
05:32:53,120 --> 05:32:56,558
to authorize the director of public

7360
05:32:54,878 --> 05:32:58,320
utilities to enter into a construction

7361
05:32:56,558 --> 05:33:00,958
contract with Danbert Incorporated for

7362
05:32:58,320 --> 05:33:02,400
the blueprint 1 Palmetto/Westgate

7363
05:33:00,958 --> 05:33:04,638
permeable pavers and water line

7364
05:33:02,400 --> 05:33:06,878
improvements project to projects to

7365
05:33:04,638 --> 05:33:08,480
authorize amendments to the 2025 capital

7366
05:33:06,878 --> 05:33:10,160
improvement budget to authorize the

7367
05:33:08,480 --> 05:33:13,160
appropriation expenditure of up to

7368
05:33:10,160 --> 05:33:13,160
11,678,51848

7369
05:33:14,958 --> 05:33:19,520
from the water pollution control loan

7370
05:33:16,798 --> 05:33:21,440
fund and the water freshwater market

7371
05:33:19,520 --> 05:33:23,040
rate fund for the contract to make this

7372
05:33:21,440 --> 05:33:24,798
ordinance contingent upon the Ohio Water

7373
05:33:23,040 --> 05:33:26,240
Development Authority approving loans

7374
05:33:24,798 --> 05:33:28,160
for the project to authorize the

7375
05:33:26,240 --> 05:33:29,600
director of public utilities to apply

7376
05:33:28,160 --> 05:33:31,840
for and accept a loan from the

7377
05:33:29,600 --> 05:33:33,440
waterfresh water market rate for the

7378
05:33:31,840 --> 05:33:35,520
Palmetto Westgate water line

7379
05:33:33,440 --> 05:33:37,440
improvements project and to authorize an

7380
05:33:35,520 --> 05:33:39,360
expenditure up to $2,000 from the

7381
05:33:37,440 --> 05:33:41,440
sanitary bond fund to pay for prevailing

7382
05:33:39,360 --> 05:33:42,878
wage services. This project consists of

7383
05:33:41,440 --> 05:33:45,200
the installation of multiple street

7384
05:33:42,878 --> 05:33:47,280
sections of permeable pavers as well as

7385
05:33:45,200 --> 05:33:49,120
other storm water system improvements in

7386
05:33:47,280 --> 05:33:50,798
the greater hilltop community. This work

7387
05:33:49,120 --> 05:33:52,240
will improve storm water drainage and

7388
05:33:50,798 --> 05:33:53,200
runoff. Let me stop there. See if any

7389
05:33:52,240 --> 05:33:55,040
questions or comments from my

7390
05:33:53,200 --> 05:33:56,480
colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

7391
05:33:55,040 --> 05:33:58,000
passage.

7392
05:33:56,480 --> 05:34:00,638
» Cler, please call the role.

7393
05:33:58,000 --> 05:34:02,558
» Thanks. Timber Rosia de Akaw Doris Green

7394
05:34:00,638 --> 05:34:03,040
Remy Ross Weiss President Harden

7395
05:34:02,558 --> 05:34:06,000
» Pass.

7396
05:34:03,040 --> 05:34:07,440
» Thank you. Next, I have 1559-2026

7397
05:34:06,000 --> 05:34:09,600
to authorize the director of public

7398
05:34:07,440 --> 05:34:12,160
utilities to renew an existing agreement

7399
05:34:09,600 --> 05:34:14,638
with Aztec Systems LLC for software

7400
05:34:12,160 --> 05:34:16,638
licenses associated with the city works

7401
05:34:14,638 --> 05:34:20,280
AMS system and to authorize the

7402
05:34:16,638 --> 05:34:20,280
expenditure of 1,19,234.74

7403
05:34:20,878 --> 05:34:24,080
split between the electricity, water,

7404
05:34:22,558 --> 05:34:26,718
sanitary sewer, and storm water

7405
05:34:24,080 --> 05:34:28,160
operating funds. Excuse me. This

7406
05:34:26,718 --> 05:34:30,798
software enables Columbus Water and

7407
05:34:28,160 --> 05:34:32,558
Power to utilize GIS to better track,

7408
05:34:30,798 --> 05:34:34,240
maintain, and manage assets across the

7409
05:34:32,558 --> 05:34:35,440
entire department. Let's stop there. See

7410
05:34:34,240 --> 05:34:37,360
if any questions or comments from my

7411
05:34:35,440 --> 05:34:38,240
colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

7412
05:34:37,360 --> 05:34:39,680
passage.

7413
05:34:38,240 --> 05:34:43,200
» Clerk, please call the role.

7414
05:34:39,680 --> 05:34:45,520
» Bank Rosa de Padilla de Aorns Green Reie

7415
05:34:43,200 --> 05:34:48,480
Ross White President Harden.

7416
05:34:45,520 --> 05:34:50,718
» Thank you. Next, I have 1573-2026

7417
05:34:48,480 --> 05:34:52,718
to authorize and direct the city auditor

7418
05:34:50,718 --> 05:34:55,920
to appropriate and transfer funds from

7419
05:34:52,718 --> 05:34:57,840
this special purpose POS settlement fund

7420
05:34:55,920 --> 05:34:59,360
to Columbus Water and Power Water

7421
05:34:57,840 --> 05:35:01,600
Operating Fund. This ordinance

7422
05:34:59,360 --> 05:35:03,840
authorizes funds received by the city in

7423
05:35:01,600 --> 05:35:05,440
a product liability case to be utilized

7424
05:35:03,840 --> 05:35:07,760
by the division of water for the purpose

7425
05:35:05,440 --> 05:35:08,958
of improving water quality. Let me stop

7426
05:35:07,760 --> 05:35:11,280
there. See any questions or comments

7427
05:35:08,958 --> 05:35:12,638
from my colleagues? Seeing none, I move

7428
05:35:11,280 --> 05:35:13,840
for passage.

7429
05:35:12,638 --> 05:35:16,878
» Please call the role.

7430
05:35:13,840 --> 05:35:18,240
» Thanks. Timber padia de a dors greeney

7431
05:35:16,878 --> 05:35:18,558
ros vice president Harden

7432
05:35:18,240 --> 05:35:21,680
» Pass.

7433
05:35:18,558 --> 05:35:23,040
» Thank you. Next, I have 1645-2026

7434
05:35:21,680 --> 05:35:24,638
to authorize the director of public

7435
05:35:23,040 --> 05:35:26,958
utilities to modify the power purchase

7436
05:35:24,638 --> 05:35:31,040
agreements with DG Columbus Jackson Pike

7437
05:35:26,958 --> 05:35:32,558
LLC and DG Harvest 2023 LLC to provide

7438
05:35:31,040 --> 05:35:34,878
funding for the purchase of energy

7439
05:35:32,558 --> 05:35:39,360
environmental attributes generated at

7440
05:35:34,878 --> 05:35:41,360
the uh photo volta volta PV solar

7441
05:35:39,360 --> 05:35:43,440
engineering facilities at the Jackson

7442
05:35:41,360 --> 05:35:45,120
Pike water reclamation plant in the

7443
05:35:43,440 --> 05:35:47,520
Parsons Avenue water plant to authorize

7444
05:35:45,120 --> 05:35:48,878
an expenditure of 2,800,000 from the

7445
05:35:47,520 --> 05:35:50,638
electricity operating fund and to

7446
05:35:48,878 --> 05:35:52,240
declare an emergency. This ordinance

7447
05:35:50,638 --> 05:35:54,240
enables Columbus Water and Power to

7448
05:35:52,240 --> 05:35:55,600
procure renewable energy from solar

7449
05:35:54,240 --> 05:35:57,280
power installations at various

7450
05:35:55,600 --> 05:35:58,718
department sites, helping the city

7451
05:35:57,280 --> 05:36:00,558
achieve its goals set forth in the

7452
05:35:58,718 --> 05:36:02,638
Columbus uh climate action plan.

7453
05:36:00,558 --> 05:36:04,558
Emergency designation is requested due

7454
05:36:02,638 --> 05:36:07,040
to previous delays with invoice renewal

7455
05:36:04,558 --> 05:36:08,320
and projections for fiscal year 2026.

7456
05:36:07,040 --> 05:36:10,400
Let me stop there. See if any questions

7457
05:36:08,320 --> 05:36:12,400
or comments from my colleagues. Seeing

7458
05:36:10,400 --> 05:36:14,320
none, I move for passage.

7459
05:36:12,400 --> 05:36:16,480
» Please call the role. Bang Simber Roa de

7460
05:36:14,320 --> 05:36:17,680
Padilla de Aar Dorren Green Remy Ross

7461
05:36:16,480 --> 05:36:19,360
Swatch President Harden

7462
05:36:17,680 --> 05:36:21,438
» Pass. [snorts]

7463
05:36:19,360 --> 05:36:24,718
» Y'all knew what I was talking about. Uh,

7464
05:36:21,438 --> 05:36:26,160
[clears throat] next I have 1666-2026

7465
05:36:24,718 --> 05:36:27,920
to authorize the director of public

7466
05:36:26,160 --> 05:36:30,160
utilities to enter into a construction

7467
05:36:27,920 --> 05:36:31,840
contract with General um I'm sorry,

7468
05:36:30,160 --> 05:36:34,080
complete general construction company

7469
05:36:31,840 --> 05:36:37,040
Resource International Incorporated and

7470
05:36:34,080 --> 05:36:39,760
Corda Nemoth Engineering Incorporated

7471
05:36:37,040 --> 05:36:42,558
per the mayor's emergency uh dated May

7472
05:36:39,760 --> 05:36:45,360
26, 2026 for the emergency repair of a

7473
05:36:42,558 --> 05:36:46,798
78 in diameter brick sewer located at

7474
05:36:45,360 --> 05:36:49,520
the intersections of Pearl Street and

7475
05:36:46,798 --> 05:36:51,440
Brewers Avenue, I'm sorry, Brewers Alley

7476
05:36:49,520 --> 05:36:53,440
to authorize the appropriation ation of

7477
05:36:51,440 --> 05:36:55,040
the unappropriated balance of the sewer

7478
05:36:53,440 --> 05:36:57,840
operating fund and to declare an

7479
05:36:55,040 --> 05:36:59,360
emergency.

7480
05:36:57,840 --> 05:37:01,440
Heavy rainfall during the month of May

7481
05:36:59,360 --> 05:37:03,040
led to the collapse and failure of of a

7482
05:37:01,440 --> 05:37:04,958
sewer located in the German village

7483
05:37:03,040 --> 05:37:06,718
neighborhood. Immediate repair was

7484
05:37:04,958 --> 05:37:08,400
necessary so that services could be

7485
05:37:06,718 --> 05:37:10,240
restored as quickly as possible.

7486
05:37:08,400 --> 05:37:11,840
Emergency designation is requested in

7487
05:37:10,240 --> 05:37:14,320
order to prevent further disruption to

7488
05:37:11,840 --> 05:37:15,680
the city's daily utility operations. Let

7489
05:37:14,320 --> 05:37:17,120
me stop there. See if any questions or

7490
05:37:15,680 --> 05:37:19,200
comments from my colleagues. Seeing

7491
05:37:17,120 --> 05:37:21,040
none, I move for passage.

7492
05:37:19,200 --> 05:37:23,680
» Please call the role. Banks Rosa de

7493
05:37:21,040 --> 05:37:24,798
Padilla de Aar Dorance Green Remy Ross

7494
05:37:23,680 --> 05:37:27,200
President Harden

7495
05:37:24,798 --> 05:37:29,280
» Passed. Thank you. And last, I have

7496
05:37:27,200 --> 05:37:30,718
1681-2026

7497
05:37:29,280 --> 05:37:32,718
to authorize the director of public

7498
05:37:30,718 --> 05:37:34,240
utilities to enter into a guaranteed

7499
05:37:32,718 --> 05:37:37,200
maximum reimbursement agreement with

7500
05:37:34,240 --> 05:37:40,080
Premier Design Plus Building Group LLC

7501
05:37:37,200 --> 05:37:42,240
for the inter modal sanitary subtrunk

7502
05:37:40,080 --> 05:37:45,760
extension phase 2 project to amend the

7503
05:37:42,240 --> 05:37:47,200
2025 capital improvement budget to uh

7504
05:37:45,760 --> 05:37:48,958
authorize a transfer of cash and

7505
05:37:47,200 --> 05:37:51,200
appropriation within the sanitary bond

7506
05:37:48,958 --> 05:37:54,520
fund to authorize an expenditure of up

7507
05:37:51,200 --> 05:37:54,520
to $2,560,356

7508
05:37:54,878 --> 05:37:58,718
from the sanitary ary bond fund and to

7509
05:37:56,718 --> 05:38:00,400
declare an emergency. This project will

7510
05:37:58,718 --> 05:38:02,558
provide sanitary sewer service to a

7511
05:38:00,400 --> 05:38:05,040
rapidly developing section of the city

7512
05:38:02,558 --> 05:38:07,200
by constructing a new sewer further into

7513
05:38:05,040 --> 05:38:08,798
the Rickenbacher service area emergency

7514
05:38:07,200 --> 05:38:10,558
designation is requested so that

7515
05:38:08,798 --> 05:38:12,798
construction can begin as soon as

7516
05:38:10,558 --> 05:38:14,558
possible and to avoid interfering with

7517
05:38:12,798 --> 05:38:16,320
or delaying other construction projects

7518
05:38:14,558 --> 05:38:17,200
in the area. Me stop there seek any

7519
05:38:16,320 --> 05:38:19,280
questions or comments from my

7520
05:38:17,200 --> 05:38:22,000
colleagues.

7521
05:38:19,280 --> 05:38:23,600
Seeing none, I move for passage.

7522
05:38:22,000 --> 05:38:26,080
» Please call the role. Thanks Timber

7523
05:38:23,600 --> 05:38:27,520
Rosie

7524
05:38:26,080 --> 05:38:28,000
Ross vice president Harden

7525
05:38:27,520 --> 05:38:29,440
» Pass.

7526
05:38:28,000 --> 05:38:30,558
» Thank you. That is all I have for my

7527
05:38:29,440 --> 05:38:32,080
committee this evening.

7528
05:38:30,558 --> 05:38:33,440
» Thank you Mr. Chair. See no further

7529
05:38:32,080 --> 05:38:34,160
business coming for council a motion to

7530
05:38:33,440 --> 05:38:36,000
adjourn.

7531
05:38:34,160 --> 05:38:37,600
» Second clerk please call the role.

7532
05:38:36,000 --> 05:38:40,000
» Thank

7533
05:38:37,600 --> 05:38:40,480
a Dorren Green Remy Ross vice president

7534
05:38:40,000 --> 05:38:44,280
Harden.

7535
05:38:40,480 --> 05:38:44,280
» Meeting is adjourned.