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along with staff are participating

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remotely by video audio and conformance

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with the governor's executive order

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members of the public have been able to

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send

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comments by email to publiccomment

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yville.com

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and we will reference those as

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appropriate if there are any later in

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the meeting

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i will now ask the town clerk to conduct

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role of the council and ask each member

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to confirm they can hear the proceedings

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and have a copy of the agenda for this

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meeting

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go ahead michelle thank you mayor

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council member doran becker

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yes to both excuse me thank you

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councilmember knight

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here and yes to both thank you

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councilmember mueller

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yes vice mayor dorman

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here and yes to both thank you thank you

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and mayor dunbar

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yes thank you let the record reflect all

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council members have indicated they're

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able to hear

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the meeting and have the agenda

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before we proceed with the agenda i'd

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like to inform our viewers that any vote

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taken

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during this teleconference meeting will

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be taken by a roll call vote

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of the town clerk as you just heard

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in addition public hearing and

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administrative regular agenda items that

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have representatives that are not staff

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will provide presentations as they would

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during a typical council meeting

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and will be called upon during their

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particular agenda

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item so with that taken care of

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if you would all please join us in the

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pledge of allegiance

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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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united states

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thank you next up is adoption of today's

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if there are no changes is there a

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motion to adopt the agenda as presented

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i believe i heard council member knight

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with the motion seconded council member

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dorne becker

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thank you we'll go with uh roll call

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vote on that michelle

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thank you councilmember knight yes

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councilmember dorn becker yes

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yes vice mayor dorman yes

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mayor dunbar yes

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thank you next we have uh the first of

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four proclamations

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today this first proclamation and this

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is unfortunate that we're not all in the

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same place which is normally the case

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and we're able to

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have a representative for each of these

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proclamations present but

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we will do this virtually the first one

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is a proclamation in recognition

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of lgbtq pride month

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whereas this june marks the 52nd

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anniversary of the stonewall riots

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which were a series of demonstrations by

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members of the gay community

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against a police raid that took place on

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june 28 1969

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at the stonewall inn in the greenwich

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village neighborhood of manhattan new

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york city

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that served as a catalyst for the gay

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rights movement

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whereas the rainbow flag also known as

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the lgbt pride flag or gay pride flag

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has been present since the 1970s as a

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symbol

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of lesbian gay bisexual transgender

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inclusiveness

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and social movements whereas many

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residents

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veterans students employees

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business owners and visitors to the town

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of downville are part of the lesbian gay

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bisexual transgender and questioning

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community

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who contribute to the widespread

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academic economic

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artistic and social fabric of the entire

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napa valley

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whereas june is commemorated around the

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globe as international gay pride month

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to honor and celebrate the history

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achievements

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and contributions of lgbtq people

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and it gives us the opportunity to come

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together in various celebrations

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of freedom and pride

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whereas the town of youngville is

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committed to support and encourage

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diversity

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in the workplace and throughout the

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community as stated in the town's 2009

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equal rights resolution now therefore

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let it be resolved that i

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john f dunbar mayor of the town of young

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phil along with

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the town council do hereby proclaim june

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2021 as lesbian gay

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bisexual transgender and queer pride

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month

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and invite everyone to reflect on ways

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we can all

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advance the rights and protections of

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lgbtq

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people and live and work together with

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the commitment

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to mutual respect and understanding

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and on behalf of the entire town council

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and town staff

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we are proud every year to recognize

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uh pride month and we will be

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raising the philadelphia pride flag

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rainbow flag june 1st to commemorate

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pride month so we do have a meeting

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scheduled for three o'clock

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we haven't determined exactly when we're

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going to be raising the flag but we will

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be doing that

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on the tuesday june 1st so look for that

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announcement

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next a proclamation recognizing may 4th

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2021 as arbor day in the town of

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yonville

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whereas in 1872 j sterling morton

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proposed to the nebraska board of

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agriculture that a special day be set

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aside for the planting of trees

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whereas this holiday called arbor day

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was first

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observed with the planting of more than

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a million trees in nebraska

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it is now observed throughout the nation

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and the world

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whereas the state of california

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recognizes arbor day march 7th

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whereas the town of youngfield takes

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great pride in the many trees that bring

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many benefits to our community including

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our schools parks and

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neighborhoods whereas the community

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continues to place great importance in

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the planting

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care and preservation of trees

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throughout the town of the ownville

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whereas the town of downfield will plant

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will plant new trees

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this month now therefore be it resolved

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that i john f dunbar as mayor of the

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town of youngville

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do hereby proclaim april 30th

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we'll say april 30th 2021 is arbitrary

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in the town of youngville

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and continue the celebration throughout

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the month with the planting of trees

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every day is arbor day in yonville

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next is a proclamation recognizing may

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the month of may is public works

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appreciation month

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and if anyone is out there that's

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watching and listening

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uh recognizes everything works

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out there infrastructure-wise on our

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streets and our parks and our

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neighborhoods everywhere

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it's because of our public works

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department

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so this is a proclamation declaring

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national public works month for may

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2021.

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whereas public works services provided

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in the town of youngville

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are integral to maintaining buildings

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and infrastructure

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as well as providing a healthy

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comfortable and safe environment for

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residents

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visitors and businesses whereas the

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skill and experience of our town of

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yanfeld public works staff

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are integral to the quality and

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longevity of town facilities

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and systems the natural beauty of parks

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and open space

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as well as the planning design and

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construction of a significant number of

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capital projects

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whereas support of municipal services

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include water

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sewers streets public buildings

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and solid waste collection all critical

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to the operations

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of youngville's public works department

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whereas our public works staff

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prioritize service to yanfo residents

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visitors and businesses regardless of

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the timing or natural conditions

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in which they work including during

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floods power outages severe weather

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and other challenging and dangerous

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whereas the dedication and

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professionalism of the public works

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have been magnified throughout this past

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year during the covet 19 pandemic

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as they set aside personal obligations

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to maintain uninterrupted service for

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our residents and businesses

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now therefore be it resolved that i john

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f dunbar mayor of the town of youngville

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do hereby proclaim may 2021

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as national public works month i ask all

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and civic organizations in the town of

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youngville

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to recognize the contributions our

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public works staff

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make every day to our health safety

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and high quality of life

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i don't think you can see it with my

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virtual background but

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it's there it is

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a special thank you to our public works

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director joe tagliabashi i know

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we have john farron's on here sometimes

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but not always

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and the rest of the team thank you so

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very much

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and our final but not last

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at all tied for first in importance

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uh proclamation celebrating the 52nd

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annual professional municipal clerks

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week

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of may 2nd to the 8th 2021

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whereas the office of the municipal

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clerk is a vital part of local

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government

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that exists throughout the world and

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provides the professional link between

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local governing bodies and agencies of

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government

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at other levels whereas municipal clerks

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have pledged to be

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to perform their duties with integrity

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neutrality

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and impartiality they remain current

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with the affairs of the office

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through educational programs such as new

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law workshops and city clerks

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association

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annual meetings of their state county

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and international professional

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organizations

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whereas municipal clerks strive

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constantly to improve

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the administration of the affairs of the

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office consistent with applicable laws

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and through sound management practices

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to fulfill responsibilities to the

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community

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and others and whereas the municipal

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clerk for the town of youngville serves

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as the town's election official

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by the way there's a long list so hold

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on elections official

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records manager political reform act

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filing officer

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prepares and distributes town council

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agendas in accordance with the brown act

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maintains the legislative record of

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council proceedings

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overseas board and commission

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appointments provides support to the

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town council and town manager

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and acts as the custodian of the town

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seal

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whereas michelle dame has served as our

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town of the outfield town clerk since

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july of 2006.

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and has worked in municipal government

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since 1997.

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michelle is also a member of the

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international institute of municipal

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clerks

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and the city clerks association of

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california

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and has been a member of the municipal

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management association

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of northern california now it is my

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privilege and honor

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to resolve that by john f dunbar mayor

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of the town of youngville

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do recognize the week of may 2nd through

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the 8th 2021

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as municipal clerks week but especially

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on behalf of the town council extend our

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appreciation to michelle dame and all

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municipal clerks for the vital services

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they perform and their exemplary

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dedication

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to the communities they represent and

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yes we are

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bias michelle you stand above

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all of your colleagues in our hearts and

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so

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thank you so very much for your many

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many years of

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of service to our community thank you

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let's try this again

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there it is it's almost as tall as i am

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look at that

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it's that long list michelle but it

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doesn't even include everything

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i know that one of the things is making

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sure that

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we all get on these zoom calls in this

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last year

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uh and being able to execute i know

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you've got

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multiple screens working and you've got

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public comments coming in and

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and text messages from me or eddie or

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julie or

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samantha or steve or et cetera et cetera

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and so

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really thank you for making it look

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seamless on the front end

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to the world but we know all that you're

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juggling and

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executing for all of us so thank you

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thank you thank you

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all right let's move on speaking of

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public comment do we have any public

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comment on items that are not on our

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agenda

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oh i need to have you on mute so i can

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hear you michelle after all that no

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no we don't thank you mayor all right

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thank you

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we'll move on to our consent calendar we

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have items 7a

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through f do we have any public comment

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on the consent calendar

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michelle no we don't mayor thank you

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all right if there are no questions from

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council i'll entertain a motion to uh

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adopt the con calendar as presented so

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moved

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second i believe that was vice mayor

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dorman with the motion second by

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council member doran becker roll call

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vote please thank you mayor vice mayor

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dorman

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yes council member dorne becker yes

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council member knight yes council member

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moeller

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yes mayor dunbar yes

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thank you i need to get my participants

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window open here

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to see if we have our next presenter

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with us

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i'm not sure if we have i don't see

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hillary are you she

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hiding

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[Music]

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ah there we go we've magically made her

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appear

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the next item is a presentation from

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hillary tripp our chair

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of the measure measure s affordable

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and workforce housing oversight

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committee to give us an update so

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hillary welcome and before we get

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started

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i'll also remind you to unmute but i

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want to say thank you

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for your volunteering at the vaccination

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clinic

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i got to see you yesterday morning as i

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got my second shot and

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i want to thank you along with many

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other residents and our chamber

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folks that helped put that on for our

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community so thank you very much

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and now we look forward to your

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committee update

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thank you and uh i'm going to just

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check with celia to see whether the

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slides get put up on the screen or just

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how that works

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um yes thank you hillary i think that uh

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the town clerk will be running the

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powerpoint presentation so

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as you go along just let her know next

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slide and she'll she'll move it along

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for you okay well we'll start with the

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first

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the title slide um i believe that he's

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going to take care of that right eddie

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it is coming my computer is moving it's

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wonderful

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well that's a i can get started eddie

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while you

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um get your slides up so just uh

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introduce uh

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myself um and good afternoon honorable

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members of the town council

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um my name is hilary tripp and as chair

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of the measure s

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affordable and workforce housing

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committee i'm going to be providing a

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very brief update

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on the activities of the committee

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so i'll move on to the second slide

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i'm sure as you'll see on the second

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slide here

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that the town council members are

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familiar with the committee but i'll

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just give a brief statement of the

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purpose of the committee

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uh it was established as part of the

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additional one percent

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trans transient and occupancy tax

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measure passed by the voters of

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yankville in 2018

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to create funding for affordable uh

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housing and workforce housing

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and the language of measure s required

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the establishment

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of such an oversight committee and the

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role of the committee is primarily to

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review the expenditures made by the town

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in support of affordable and workforce

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housing and to confirm that those

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expenditures

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meet with the intent of the ordinance so

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the committee

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was folks applied to be on the committee

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and we were selected by the council and

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the volunteer committee members are

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myself

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terry moylan who's serving as vice

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committee vice chair

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whitney diver mccoy patricia bartosono

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and richard board so i'll now just

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quickly go through our two meetings that

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we've had of the committee

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and that would be on the next slide

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please

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our first meeting was in october of last

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year

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we all took our oath of office

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and then established the terms of office

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for the various committee members

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three members will serve a two-year term

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through october of 22

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and two members will assert will serve a

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one-year term going through october of

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uh 2021. we

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had opportunity to meet up the staff and

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our main point of contact who has been

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extremely helpful is

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director of finance cecilia king working

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of course

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under the city manager in the council

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and we reviewed the potential uses of

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the funds

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and also the status of the collection of

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the fund

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as of last october

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and then we did meet again in march of

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this year which is the next slide

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and again we had an opportunity to

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review the fund balances

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uh and review the roles and also

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have an update on the status of

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different types of efforts that could be

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made

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for affordable and workforce housing and

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then planned for the provision of this

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update today

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to the city council and now the next

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slide is probably the moment

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everybody's been waiting for which is

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what is the fund balance

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um and the fund balance as of march 31st

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2021

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is 928 760

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dollars and part of the reason this is

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such a brief

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update is there have been no

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expenditures to date

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so that's the current status

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of where we sit right now and

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the as part of the oversight activity we

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will be receiving each of the members of

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the committee

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a monthly statement of the fund balances

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um

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under from someone who works with

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director

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celia king in the finance department

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uh so we'll be getting that every month

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from now until the next meeting which

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will be september 22nd

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2021. um so i think that's

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that's pretty much the update

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thank you so so very much it is uh

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exciting to see that

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balance um i'll first ask for uh

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questions from the council

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if we have any for hillary and then i'm

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gonna put steve on the spot

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after that to let us know just very

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briefly

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what the parameters are for being able

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to apply that fund balance to

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projects so any questions of the report

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from hillary

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any hands from the council

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any public uh comments come in uh during

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the presentation michelle

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no there wasn't thank you thank you

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mayor just a thank you to hillary

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and to the committee members for their

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work thank you

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welcome thank you very much

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and thank you for recognizing uh your

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fellow committee members

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as well steve could you just speak

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briefly to

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um the types of projects i know we've

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been talking about housing at the

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veterans home

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housing potentially in other locations

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in town

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but how might we apply some of that

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funding going forward

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certainly mayor measure s is a very

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flexible

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funding source but the uses need to be

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related to the generation of

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and or maintenance of affordable deed

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restricted housing

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and or we have a component that what we

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would consider

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workforce housing that might be housing

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beyond that so it could be a direct

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assistance

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one thing the town considered was

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purchasing some property we were not

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successful

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we could also purchase some of the

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affordable deed restricted and we can

582
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also

583
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,919
invest in property with this money that

584
00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:53,200
would be used for affordable housing

585
00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:54,559
and we could also provide subsidies to

586
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,720
builder developers

587
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:59,280
that were willing to support deed

588
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,120
restricted housing

589
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320
great thank you very much for that

590
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:05,440
explanation

591
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:08,400
and knowing that a

592
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,240
housing unit costs roughly 500 000 in

593
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,600
napa county

594
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:17,600
we have money for two right now

595
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:20,080
uh so that kind of speaks to the um

596
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,000
how far that money might be going there

597
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,400
are other ways to do it other than build

598
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,880
new uh that uh town marriage just

599
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,880
alluded to

600
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,760
as the committee knows the funding level

601
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,559
is a bit below where we had originally

602
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,760
projected

603
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:41,200
due to the covet pandemic our tot

604
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,120
collections have plummeted uh in late 19

605
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,600
and continuing on so

606
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,120
this lower level hopefully will start

607
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,520
returning

608
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:52,080
um and and be generating approximately

609
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,559
700 000 a year going forward

610
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,480
that's a an objective that you know it

611
00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:57,039
may take us a couple years to get to but

612
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,240
it

613
00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:03,360
we should be able to return to that

614
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,360
so hillary your work is ahead of you

615
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:08,400
thank you again thanks for being here

616
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:10,159
with us today

617
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,679
next up we do have one public hearing

618
00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:15,120
today it is a

619
00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:17,280
use permit request from cornerstone

620
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:20,120
sellers

621
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,600
consider adoption of resolution number

622
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,360
21-4053

623
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,120
approving a use permit for cornerstone

624
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:28,000
sellers tasting room with

625
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:30,320
tina stevens secondary retail for their

626
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:36,559
property located at 6505

627
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:38,720
washington street apn 036-081-01

628
00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:41,120
and we will hear a staff report before

629
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,840
we open the public hearing so

630
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,840
let's do that

631
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,520
mayor would you like me to

632
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,279
allow the participants in or go ahead

633
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,559
and wait until after the staff report

634
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,000
go ahead and let them in now so they can

635
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,760
hear the staff report in case they have

636
00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:05,840
anything to respond to thank you

637
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:05,840
thank you

638
00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:12,400
[Music]

639
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:15,200
welcome to our guest we are about to

640
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,760
uh hear uh from sandra listen on our

641
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,159
staff report and then we will be

642
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,240
welcoming your comments and potentially

643
00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:24,720
asking questions after the staff report

644
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,520
as part of the public hearing so again

645
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,600
welcome and

646
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:32,000
i'll go to sandra good afternoon council

647
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,960
this is an application for use permit

648
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,400
that would allow

649
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:39,279
cornerstone tasting room to occupy about

650
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,320
2 500 square feet on the ground floor of

651
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:42,960
the building

652
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,159
formerly occupied by fences at jcb

653
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,480
village

654
00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:49,400
and cornerstone operated a tasting room

655
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,919
here in town from the years 2008 to

656
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,080
2017 and it's interested now in

657
00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:55,360
re-establishing that tasting room

658
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,440
presence

659
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,720
there are two comments to the proposed

660
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,880
use in front of you

661
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,880
one of which is the cornerstone tasting

662
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,640
room and that would take place in

663
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,559
roughly

664
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,760
1570 square feet on the north end of the

665
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:11,760
building

666
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,880
and the other component is tina stevens

667
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,480
retail and that would take place in the

668
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,960
950 square feet

669
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,760
at the south end of building and it's

670
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,640
the

671
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,039
tina stevens retail that would satisfy

672
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,120
the town's retail diversity policy

673
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:29,200
that requires tasting rooms to provide

674
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:32,720
at least 25

675
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:35,120
of the netfloor area to non-wine retail

676
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,919
so i'll discuss each of the two uses

677
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,159
separately

678
00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:40,159
the first being cornerstone and it would

679
00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:44,159
be a wine tasting room with

680
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:44,640
20 indoor seats both in the main tasting

681
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:47,840
hall

682
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,480
and at the vip

683
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,960
area off to the side as well as 16

684
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,440
outdoor

685
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,480
seats in the interior courtyard on the

686
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,320
west side of the building the proposed

687
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,799
daily hours of operation would be

688
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,919
between

689
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:03,679
11am and 6pm in the winter months and

690
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:05,279
we're defining that by resolution of

691
00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:08,000
november through october

692
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:10,640
and until 7pm in the summer months of

693
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,840
may through october the applicant

694
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000
indicates that

695
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,679
it would need two staff members from

696
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,159
monday through thursday

697
00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:18,960
increasing to four staff members on

698
00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:22,559
thursday

699
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,600
sorry friday saturday and sunday and

700
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,919
the wine tasting use includes both

701
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,000
flights of wine for tasting as well as

702
00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:32,400
either glasses or bottles of wine for

703
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,240
on-site consumption

704
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,919
food pairings are also a component of

705
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,400
the proposed use

706
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:38,960
and the options are to provide a cheese

707
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240
plate

708
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,760
a charcuterie platter and small bites

709
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,880
prepared by a yet to be

710
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,400
identified youngville restaurant and all

711
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,039
food pairings would be

712
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,200
prepared by an off-site caterer and they

713
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,200
would need to be ordered 24 hours in

714
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,279
advance really at the time a reservation

715
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,640
is made because the food is not prepared

716
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,480
on site

717
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,559
and so walk-in guests wouldn't be

718
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,880
allowed to or permitted to order

719
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,000
that simply wouldn't be available the

720
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,039
applicant is proposing

721
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,559
a total of 14 special events in four

722
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:13,200
separate categories

723
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:15,120
the first of which would be private wine

724
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,640
club events

725
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,039
and there would be four of these for up

726
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,360
to 75 people

727
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,080
occurring in the months of march may

728
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,799
september

729
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,000
and november they would occur over a

730
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:28,399
four hour window

731
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,360
to limit total attendance at any one

732
00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:31,679
time

733
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:34,080
and they would feature catered

734
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:37,360
appetizers and occasionally an acoustic

735
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,440
artist they're seeking two

736
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:42,320
wine release parties for up to 100

737
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,760
people in the spring and late summer

738
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,000
and again this would be spread over the

739
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,200
course of a day and would

740
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,240
feature catered appetizers

741
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,480
they are seeking four vip wine maker

742
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,320
dinners with multiple courses for up to

743
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,640
20 people

744
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,320
and four artist receptions associated

745
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,840
with arena galleries

746
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,840
and these would include past hors

747
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,159
d'oeuvres and they would occur

748
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,720
late in the afternoon and evening hours

749
00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:10,960
and ending by 9 pm

750
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,080
and these events would occur mainly

751
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,480
indoors

752
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,480
with limited use of the back courtyard

753
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840
and they're generally going to take

754
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080
place during the daily hours of

755
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,200
operation although they're seeking

756
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:27,120
permission to extend until 9 pm

757
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,799
on the 14 days they're seeking approval

758
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,720
and the last component of the use is the

759
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:33,919
secondary retail

760
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,679
component which satisfies the standard

761
00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:38,880
for tasting rooms that they provide

762
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:41,600
some level of non-wine retail and it's

763
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,480
satisfied with the tina stephens

764
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,080
retail boutique but it also includes two

765
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,399
tina stephens

766
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,760
display shell display areas within the

767
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:52,080
tasting room itself

768
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,000
as well as the arena artwork and that

769
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,039
will be artwork on the walls

770
00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,559
and sculpture as well

771
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:03,679
now the tina stephens used is a woman's

772
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:06,240
retail clothing boutique and it would be

773
00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:07,440
partitioned from the tasting room with a

774
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
freestanding

775
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,360
shelving unit that doesn't go to the

776
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,159
ceiling and it allows the free flow of

777
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,399
customers

778
00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:15,200
around either side of it so that the two

779
00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:18,559
spaces

780
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,039
are integrated into one

781
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,880
however customers could also gain direct

782
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:25,360
access to the business from the

783
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,080
storefront entry on

784
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,520
the east side of the building and that

785
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,240
allows them to enter the business

786
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,159
directly

787
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760
rather than going through cornerstone

788
00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:36,399
for customers that

789
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,760
are not doing wine tastings the hours of

790
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:38,880
operation would be the same as

791
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,880
cornerstone

792
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,200
and the staffing for tina stevens would

793
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,679
be one person daily

794
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,679
with two people on saturdays and sundays

795
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:49,200
during the peak season

796
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:50,799
which we're defining as may through

797
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,080
october

798
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:56,159
so the first question for the council

799
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,919
is whether youngville has enough tasting

800
00:29:56,159 --> 00:29:58,799
rooms and we're raising this because

801
00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:00,720
it's a

802
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,000
concern or sentiment of the community

803
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440
that we've heard

804
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,360
from time to time that we may have

805
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,880
reached this

806
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,760
staffing point i mean um tipping point

807
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,240
and we at this location we're losing um

808
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,640
more of a long-standing retail use to

809
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,720
this um wine tasting news and so we're

810
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,200
raising it for your consideration

811
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,120
now the past councils have considered

812
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,279
this question

813
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,520
and chosen not to impose a cap on the

814
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:29,760
maximum number of tasting rooms or

815
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,679
impose a distance requirement between

816
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,440
them or any other

817
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:35,760
caps so this is really a policy question

818
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,679
for the council today

819
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,279
staff report does note that there are 14

820
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:41,760
tasting rooms in town

821
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,320
however one of these gerard has lost its

822
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480
leave

823
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,559
lease and they'll be leaving soon so the

824
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,799
council could find that cornerstone

825
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,760
maintains the status quo let's say a

826
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,720
tasting room

827
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,440
with the anticipated loss of gerard or

828
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,080
it could decide otherwise

829
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,399
now another item for your discussion is

830
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,679
the component of the tina

831
00:31:00,399 --> 00:31:05,200
stephens area retail

832
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:06,960
and that's because this is a little

833
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,480
different than we've seen um

834
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,559
from some of the other tasting rooms in

835
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,240
town where it's more integrated

836
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:17,200
into the space and this application is

837
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,200
proposed to be and the 950 square feet

838
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,320
at the south end of the building

839
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,960
and at that amount of square footage

840
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080
it represents roughly 38 percent of the

841
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240
overall

842
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,080
building which is far above the 25

843
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,200
percent that is required

844
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,559
and um and it's unique in that way and i

845
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,000
mentioned earlier that it would be

846
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,960
partitioned from the

847
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,760
cornerstone space but this allows views

848
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,880
into

849
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,279
um the retail area it allows access into

850
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,399
it

851
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:47,679
and it's not a strict separation but i

852
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:50,559
do want to call out for your attention

853
00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:53,279
that the retail diversity policy

854
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:55,679
provides that secondary retail products

855
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,600
shall be located within the retail space

856
00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:59,919
and in this case a tasting room

857
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,679
as is practically feasible and not

858
00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:04,880
segregated into an area

859
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:06,640
that can be closed off

860
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,159
so and i think this application tests

861
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,240
that standard

862
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:12,640
if there were a wall physically

863
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,080
separating the two spaces

864
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,679
i don't think it would satisfy it

865
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,880
however in this case the

866
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:21,039
low partition allows the areas to be

867
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,120
more integrated and i think also on a

868
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,559
positive side is that this applicant is

869
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
proposing to

870
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,039
reopen one of the storefront doors that

871
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,440
was nailed closed by jcb

872
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,159
senses and both entries will be

873
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,960
separately

874
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:37,200
signed at each entry and offer retail

875
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,440
opportunities

876
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,360
the question that's been raised before

877
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,559
tonight is what happens if tina

878
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,559
stevens vacates the space and

879
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:49,039
we know that this if this use permit is

880
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,320
approved the non-wine retail would be a

881
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,720
mandatory element

882
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,720
of the use permit meaning that it needs

883
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600
to be in place for cornerstone to

884
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
operate

885
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,200
and that's because the arena wall art

886
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,720
and sculpture doesn't represent

887
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:05,200
25 of the floor area

888
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,559
and based on previous applications staff

889
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760
is suggesting that it shouldn't be

890
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:12,320
included towards

891
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,679
the minimum allocation required

892
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,200
and it certainly isn't needed in this

893
00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:17,360
case because of the large amount of

894
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,720
space for tina stevens

895
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
and this would mean that the property

896
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,880
owner and or cornerstone

897
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,640
would need to locate a replacement

898
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,519
retail partner

899
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,880
but it could be any retail partner that

900
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:32,399
offers non-wine

901
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,240
merchandise the question i've

902
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:35,840
received by a couple of council members

903
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760
before tonight's meeting is

904
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,840
how long would cornerstone have to

905
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,120
replace that tenant should they lose

906
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,799
tina stevens

907
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,399
and we could go ahead and include a

908
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:46,320
condition of approval

909
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:47,679
that requires a tenant be in place by a

910
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,679
certain amount of time

911
00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:51,600
that could be three months or six months

912
00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:52,799
or whatever the council would be

913
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,240
reasonable so that's

914
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,440
an additional condition we could add

915
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,600
tonight if there is interest

916
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,840
the next item is the food pairings that

917
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,640
the applicants are proposing

918
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,360
and they're proposing three different

919
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
options

920
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,659
which would be catered by an off-site

921
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,240
provider

922
00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:12,320
[Music]

923
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,520
and they're really intended to highlight

924
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,879
certain qualities

925
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,280
of the wines being tasted heroin states

926
00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:19,440
that this

927
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,159
is somewhat of a low standard because

928
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:24,079
it's generally accepted that you know

929
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,159
more mild flavors pair with the white

930
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:28,480
wines and stronger flavors pair

931
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,560
with red wines and it's not really this

932
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,960
scientific

933
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,440
calculation and so for this reason we

934
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,919
see several wine casino rooms

935
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,720
in town doing cheese and car shoot

936
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:42,079
replace

937
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:44,960
just like this applicant is proposing so

938
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,560
very common this applicant also wants to

939
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,960
partner with a restaurant to

940
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,399
create four different bites that pair

941
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,599
with their wines

942
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:53,839
and this is where it gets a little

943
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:58,160
harder to draw the line between a

944
00:34:53,839 --> 00:35:00,400
food pairing and a small appetizer

945
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,200
one of which is allowed and one which

946
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,720
isn't

947
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,880
and the applicant has shared photo

948
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:07,520
examples of onotree

949
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,960
um which illustrates this point and so

950
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,440
staff is seeking feedback from the

951
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,560
council as to whether this satisfies the

952
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,520
standards for food pairings

953
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,800
which by definition in the municipal

954
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,680
code are to be

955
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,960
a bite-sized portion of food served with

956
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680
tasting flights

957
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,480
glasses and bottles of wine to

958
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,160
complement

959
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,520
a specific flavor profile

960
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,760
and they cannot be purchased

961
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,640
individually and they are offered free

962
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,000
of charge

963
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:40,160
as an add-on and that is how the

964
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,079
applicants have presented

965
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:47,200
the food pairing for you today

966
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:48,880
next item um that i'll mention is the

967
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,960
use of the outdoor space and the

968
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,000
applicants would like to use

969
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,560
16 seats in that interior courtyard and

970
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,599
they'd be

971
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,320
for use during the daily hours of so up

972
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,960
until

973
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,760
6 pm in the winter and 7 pm in the

974
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,320
summer

975
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,240
and potentially until 9 00 pm on the 14

976
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,240
days that they may hold a special event

977
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,960
and the applicant's project narrative i

978
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,880
have to admit came in at the 11th hour

979
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,359
and without prior notification to staff

980
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,599
so we didn't have much of a chance to

981
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:21,440
analyze it and the staff report although

982
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:25,359
we did note the

983
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:28,320
um some concerns with parking and

984
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:30,160
outdoor seating is considered a use area

985
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
to which the parking standard should be

986
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,079
applied

987
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,280
and in this case there's no unallocated

988
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:38,079
spaces in this

989
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,480
and the lot that could be used um for

990
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,680
this expansion of use but there are a

991
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,359
number of options to

992
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,520
open to the town council and considering

993
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:47,119
this one is you could deny the outdoor

994
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,240
use for failure to

995
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:52,480
meet the town's parking standard

996
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:54,960
you could grant a reduction in the

997
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,560
number of required parking spaces based

998
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,400
on the provision of the auntville

999
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,240
municipal code that grants the council

1000
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,920
the authority to

1001
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,280
increase or decrease the number of

1002
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,960
parking

1003
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,640
one of the reasons that you could

1004
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,320
consider would be that this is a joint

1005
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,000
parking facility

1006
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,000
and then you could consider whether the

1007
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,920
program that allows existing tasting

1008
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,079
rooms to expand

1009
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,599
to outdoor use areas without providing

1010
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,440
additional parking whether that should

1011
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:21,359
be applied to this project

1012
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,960
however i caution that that program that

1013
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:25,520
i referenced and that was

1014
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,320
applied to jcb census recently when they

1015
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,119
received

1016
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,880
approval for outdoor seating is that it

1017
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,599
applies to existing rather than new

1018
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,520
tasting rooms

1019
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:38,320
and so those are options before you if

1020
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,720
the council does allow the outdoor use

1021
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,720
the applicant would be required to

1022
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,280
satisfy requirements of the

1023
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,000
department of alcoholic beverage control

1024
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,160
as to

1025
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,280
control of the space they would have to

1026
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,240
provide safe

1027
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,839
and adequate ada access past the tables

1028
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:56,000
and through the courtyard

1029
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:57,680
and there's a condition to that effect

1030
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,160
it could only use the outdoor

1031
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,320
area for regular operations until six or

1032
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,440
seven depending on the time of year

1033
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,440
until nine for the 14 special events and

1034
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,599
at this intensity the outdoor youth

1035
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,359
is consistent with the standards for the

1036
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,480
district for the primary commercial

1037
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:14,240
zoning district

1038
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,680
and staff would not anticipate any

1039
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,680
concerns um

1040
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,320
even related to noise given these

1041
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,560
parameters

1042
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,599
so the last item i will touch upon is

1043
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,200
employee

1044
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,400
staffing and the associated parking

1045
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,400
impact

1046
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,000
and the applicant asserts that it only

1047
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320
needs two employees from

1048
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,000
from monday through thursday with four

1049
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,280
for the friday saturday and sunday

1050
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000
weekend times

1051
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,200
to serve 20 indoor seats and 16 outdoor

1052
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,480
seats

1053
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,000
and based on the staffing models for

1054
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,720
different tasting rooms staff

1055
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,240
believes this number may be no low when

1056
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,680
we've pressed the applicant on it

1057
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,200
they're

1058
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,440
they've assured us that these numbers

1059
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,720
are correct so we have included some

1060
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,200
conditions of approval

1061
00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,240
to address this one of which requires

1062
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,560
them to enroll

1063
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:04,079
employees in the employee parking

1064
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,119
management program

1065
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:09,760
and then to submit certified

1066
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:11,440
employee payroll records so that staff

1067
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,440
can track whether the employee account

1068
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,400
is

1069
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,040
steady or whether it's increasing if we

1070
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:21,520
find that

1071
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:23,119
employment is growing an option is to

1072
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,720
include those additional employees in

1073
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:28,000
the employee parking management

1074
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:30,560
program and to designate spaces

1075
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,720
in the on-site lot for them to park if

1076
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,599
we find that that number grows

1077
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,000
at a greater rate than anticipated there

1078
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:39,920
is

1079
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,760
an option to allow them to park off-site

1080
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,119
and spaces designated by the town and

1081
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,800
the right-of-way and subject to the

1082
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,160
payment of that fee for an off-site

1083
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,680
parking space so

1084
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,000
those are some of the different options

1085
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,359
to deal with the staffing

1086
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,040
but the applicants are all here to

1087
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:54,079
answer any questions that you have of

1088
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,359
them

1089
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:59,520
and i'm available as well thank you

1090
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:00,400
thank you sandra i'll ask the counsel

1091
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,560
for questions

1092
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,599
of your staff report before i open the

1093
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,960
hearing and hear from

1094
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,920
our guests so any members of the council

1095
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,839
have questions for

1096
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,839
sandra vice mayor go ahead

1097
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,079
thank you thank you director liston for

1098
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,760
the report

1099
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:21,920
um this is a very interesting project it

1100
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,839
has a lot of moving parts that we don't

1101
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,560
typically see

1102
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:27,119
i would just like to warn you in advance

1103
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,839
i

1104
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:31,440
will have a number of questions tonight

1105
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,000
many of them i have gone over with

1106
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,079
director

1107
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,359
liston so i expect it will go smoothly

1108
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:40,000
but i just want to confirm some things

1109
00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:40,960
so on the number of tasting rooms in

1110
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,720
town

1111
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:48,960
um we are

1112
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:52,079
uh at 14 this would make 15

1113
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,400
and this use permit were we to approve

1114
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:56,160
it would run with the land

1115
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,400
and so it would be a tasting room and

1116
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,839
less than until that use is abandoned

1117
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,200
correct

1118
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:04,880
that is crap and the gerard tasting room

1119
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,800
should it not change use

1120
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,040
will continue as a tasting room which

1121
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,920
would put us at 15.

1122
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,920
that is right yeah

1123
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:20,000
now the arena aspect of it

1124
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:22,560
does arena still have a town business

1125
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560
license

1126
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,160
i do not know the answer to that um they

1127
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,119
did when they were located in town here

1128
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,960
um so they may not okay and would they

1129
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,440
they would need one though if they were

1130
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,800
if

1131
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,960
this all were to coalesce together

1132
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,119
yes if they were conducting business by

1133
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:46,079
doing retail sales out of cornerstone

1134
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:46,079
yes would trigger a business license

1135
00:41:46,839 --> 00:41:54,240
um the reception area

1136
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:57,359
looks like it has four seats planned uh

1137
00:41:54,240 --> 00:42:00,000
are those counted as tasting room seats

1138
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:03,040
how do we control that or do we count

1139
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,359
those or not

1140
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,480
they are represented in the applicant's

1141
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:09,520
package to be

1142
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,160
a waiting area and reception area

1143
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,319
um i don't know if anything would

1144
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,160
prohibit them from using that for

1145
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:17,680
hastings unless it's included as a

1146
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,520
prohibition in the

1147
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:23,680
um in the resolution and one reason

1148
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640
i say that is that the parking standard

1149
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640
for the

1150
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,119
use is based on a retail standard which

1151
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,000
is one space for every 350

1152
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:35,200
300 square feet of floor area rather

1153
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:40,000
than the number of seats provided

1154
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:44,480
okay and um we have 11 spaces currently

1155
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:46,880
to jcb correct for pre-bay and for the

1156
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:50,079
jcb tasting room

1157
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:53,119
that's correct yes and that includes

1158
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:57,200
uh not that many meetings ago

1159
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:58,000
we allowed under uh our 20 2017

1160
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,480
resolution

1161
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:06,000
we allowed jcb 10 seats on their patio

1162
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,000
without additional parking

1163
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,839
so that 11 includes those is going to

1164
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:12,560
take care of those additional 10 seats

1165
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:17,119
we believe

1166
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:19,200
because we allowed that we also have 11

1167
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,319
that were included in that 2017

1168
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,640
resolution

1169
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:23,760
that they were already using some level

1170
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,359
of outdoor space

1171
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,280
that they wouldn't have an increased

1172
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:28,720
employee count and there were a number

1173
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,240
of factors that

1174
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:33,520
were supported that there wasn't an

1175
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:36,800
increased parking demand because of that

1176
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:40,000
and then we have 11 spaces for railway

1177
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:43,200
in and mini model are those legal

1178
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,119
non-conforming or do those do we have

1179
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,319
sufficient right now for all of those

1180
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,319
under our current codes

1181
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,839
i couldn't address that because i'm i

1182
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,040
don't recall how many rooms they have

1183
00:43:53,839 --> 00:44:02,319
but i believe it is conforming to code

1184
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:04,319
okay um and i believe i read

1185
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:06,560
my understanding is that is correct they

1186
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:10,560
have the minimum amount necessary

1187
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:13,680
for their activities thank you

1188
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:17,839
um and i read in your um

1189
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:20,880
staff report that for the interior only

1190
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:24,720
of this including the cornerstone

1191
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:28,000
tina stevens and the spa we would need

1192
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:29,280
uh 12.6 parking spaces which we round up

1193
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,359
to 13

1194
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,359
and there are 12 currently available

1195
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,280
that is right yes so technically one

1196
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:45,680
short not counting the 16 outdoor seats

1197
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,400
crap um i know you mentioned the outdoor

1198
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,839
tables

1199
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,839
i walked back there today i can see that

1200
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:54,240
there would be room to pass

1201
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:57,040
how who is in control of where the

1202
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:57,040
tables go

1203
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,760
that would be the applicant working with

1204
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,640
the landlord to designate a space on the

1205
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,040
property that

1206
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680
um is acceptable in terms of the lease

1207
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,079
but then

1208
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,800
to maintain enough space for the ada

1209
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,560
access

1210
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,560
so that's obviously a shared space back

1211
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,359
there and it grants access to a number

1212
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:21,839
of different businesses

1213
00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:21,839
and then there would be bottle oh sorry

1214
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,000
so i didn't hear the end i'm saying the

1215
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,760
town wouldn't necessarily be involved in

1216
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,960
it because we won't be processing a

1217
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,079
building permit for

1218
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:35,520
any outdoor areas

1219
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,920
okay so that's a landlord tenant issue

1220
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,200
um and there will be bottle and glass

1221
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,680
service allowed

1222
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,240
on the outside in the outside seating

1223
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,520
should it be approved

1224
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:50,720
yeah with food pairings should the

1225
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,720
tasting room offer that

1226
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,599
yeah and we are not when we look at

1227
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,280
parking we are not counting any needs

1228
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:01,119
for arena

1229
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,760
employees is that correct

1230
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,280
i understand there are no separate arena

1231
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,920
employees that it's

1232
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,560
conducted by the cornerstone youth and

1233
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,240
the

1234
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,240
the retail is just part of the overall

1235
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:15,680
retail operation

1236
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:20,800
it is an additive on top of that

1237
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,800
and so i think that's been answered

1238
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,319
and this may be um could we as a

1239
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:35,200
condition of approval

1240
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:35,200
uh require keeping the 38 percent retail

1241
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:41,440
i think that that can be included as a

1242
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:44,319
condition of approval to

1243
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,240
consider a new use for the property

1244
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:47,440
given the fact that we're losing a long

1245
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:50,560
time

1246
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,040
retail use yes and could we

1247
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,880
also as a condition of approval keep

1248
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,319
these separate entrance

1249
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,319
and signage requirements

1250
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,119
keep those as requirements yeah

1251
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,880
and for special events those

1252
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:12,240
are i know they have to get a permit

1253
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,800
well i believe they have to get a permit

1254
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,319
and that

1255
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,160
permit is uh informed or governed by

1256
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:20,960
what is in their narrative correct

1257
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,920
there'll be this many people

1258
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,680
no later than this that all goes back to

1259
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,680
the narrative that's included in this

1260
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,800
packet

1261
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,880
yes um with the clarification so we have

1262
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,040
a condition of approval that they

1263
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,640
report on the specifics of special

1264
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,800
events to town staff

1265
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,040
so that we can condition any aspect of

1266
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,359
use to run more smoothly

1267
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,040
it might be something to designate an

1268
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:48,079
area for

1269
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,160
less drop off something like that

1270
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,440
but it's simply reporting to staff they

1271
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,520
don't technically need

1272
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,480
a special event permit governed by the

1273
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,040
provisions of the

1274
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,839
municipal code that's for a gathering of

1275
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,200
200 or more people

1276
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:03,359
so as long as there's some level of

1277
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,359
communication and reporting

1278
00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:06,720
that would satisfy the requirement on

1279
00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:08,640
our end

1280
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,760
so they would report in advance i'm

1281
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,800
going to have on

1282
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,079
june 15th x event

1283
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:18,319
yeah okay thank you very much i

1284
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:20,079
appreciate it

1285
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:22,559
thank you councilmember knight your hand

1286
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,559
is raised

1287
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,240
thank you mayor and thank you vice mayor

1288
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,359
for your questions

1289
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:32,559
um so i had a few questions i

1290
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:36,079
did pose a couple questions to

1291
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:37,520
our the our planning director and i

1292
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,880
and one of the first things that

1293
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,720
eventually i would like to come back and

1294
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,280
maybe talk with with council is

1295
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,240
your your points about a condition that

1296
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,319
may be

1297
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:49,200
um important to add that this is kind of

1298
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:52,880
a unique setting where most other

1299
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:55,680
wine tasting rooms that had uh a retail

1300
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,200
uh diversity added to their to their

1301
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,920
open space they

1302
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,119
they seem to control that product and in

1303
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,599
this condition it's a

1304
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,440
it's a separate that while there it's a

1305
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,800
separate business sharing the space so i

1306
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,280
think it's important to

1307
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,720
maybe for us to consider a condition of

1308
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,079
a timeline

1309
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:18,000
if that's secondary uh retail

1310
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:20,640
uh left uh um you know timeline for

1311
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,720
replacing that use um and i think that

1312
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,400
would be a good idea

1313
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:29,520
um i also walked the area today and

1314
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,359
um notice in terms of uh i hear that

1315
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,040
i understand what the vice mayor is

1316
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:34,400
saying about the space but also walking

1317
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,720
in the back parking lot

1318
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,160
i can see that there there is a garbage

1319
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:41,359
enclosure there

1320
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:43,839
that um appears to

1321
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:45,359
uh you know there's there is some uh

1322
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:47,200
waste containers there

1323
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:49,920
but it appears it seems to me we're

1324
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,160
moving to a lot of higher use

1325
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,240
that we with census leaving that's a

1326
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,160
retail space we're going to see a

1327
00:49:54,240 --> 00:50:01,520
another business that has uh bottles and

1328
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:04,480
some food um

1329
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,040
for the planning director as a part of

1330
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,480
condition

1331
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:11,200
can we uh do we know how often

1332
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,240
uh there's garbage service there to

1333
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,680
create enough

1334
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,200
containers especially as the weekend is

1335
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,079
friday comes along and they have a busy

1336
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,240
week weekend is trash

1337
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:24,960
put out front like many businesses and

1338
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:29,760
the recycling is just in the back or

1339
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:33,040
you think we need additional

1340
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,359
service on that site

1341
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,319
i don't know how often trash and

1342
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:38,559
recycling are

1343
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:39,680
collected from that facility the

1344
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,520
enclosure is

1345
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
off of the rear parking lot so it occurs

1346
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,640
off of the

1347
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,000
the mulberry extension i think that we

1348
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,559
could include a condition

1349
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,559
that the

1350
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,800
upper valley disposal collect at

1351
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,400
on a frequency so that it doesn't back

1352
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,000
up and create a problem

1353
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680
or even add additional pickups if

1354
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,760
necessary is there

1355
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,960
other garbage service or waste service

1356
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,800
put out front

1357
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,839
for those current businesses or is it

1358
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:13,599
all stored and collected in the back

1359
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:17,280
property it's all stored and collected

1360
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:19,119
in the enclosure at the rear

1361
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,119
and i thought that they were dumpsters

1362
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:24,000
but it sounds like you're referencing

1363
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,839
toters that are on washington well i'm

1364
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,599
just not sure if i mean if that's done

1365
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:28,559
as well as i notice there's a large

1366
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:30,720
container

1367
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:32,160
in the rear parking for probably bottles

1368
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:34,000
and recycling

1369
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,280
but i anticipate i would anticipate

1370
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,720
there'd be a lot more

1371
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:41,839
waste food waste and and other

1372
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:43,680
and more bottles and so i would want to

1373
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:45,440
be sure we were

1374
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,280
creating a situation that it may be

1375
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,280
worth considering a condition to be sure

1376
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,680
there's enough

1377
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,599
uh visits by upper valley disposal to

1378
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,040
take care of that waste

1379
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:59,599
uh so we i'm council member um

1380
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,960
i think town manager rogers is gonna uh

1381
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:02,800
speak to this so we have to be very

1382
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,000
careful about conjecture about how much

1383
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,839
waste is being

1384
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,079
uh and how it's being distributed so

1385
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:10,160
steve if you have the actual facts

1386
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,559
that would be helpful i have a in

1387
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,520
following the thought line

1388
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:17,359
by observation they do bring out toters

1389
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,800
on monday and put them in the

1390
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:23,440
street right away so it could be that we

1391
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,960
have a condition to evaluate whether

1392
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:31,359
they should based on the the new um

1393
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:33,040
waste load look at going to bins

1394
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:35,040
and or we could also include a

1395
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:38,480
requirement that the toters

1396
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,599
if used are placed on mulberry and not

1397
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,960
in the parking spaces on washington so

1398
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,559
those are something for the council's

1399
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,400
consideration

1400
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,760
steve are you sure are those bins still

1401
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,720
out there since the atelier

1402
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,720
uh went away yes it wasn't it wasn't

1403
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:55,599
associated with the food products

1404
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:58,000
the no because uh those were all

1405
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:01,200
intermingled with the jcb

1406
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,599
waste stream so it it might be reduced a

1407
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,319
bit

1408
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:06,240
since atelier went away but the toters

1409
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:09,200
are still out there both on the

1410
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:10,240
uh especially the recycling and brown

1411
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,720
toters

1412
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,680
okay uh continue council member night

1413
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,319
yeah thank you

1414
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,640
amir i it was just observation and some

1415
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:22,079
conversations with people on site that

1416
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:25,760
that there there is there is

1417
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:28,800
a lot of recycling occurring um now

1418
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,640
without the current applicants

1419
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,200
adding to it so i think it's something

1420
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,319
worth considering for a condition

1421
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,880
um another one quickly is um

1422
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:41,040
another one is our economic recovery

1423
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,680
program this is a new business but we

1424
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,960
have

1425
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,480
a program that will allow businesses to

1426
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,960
exceed their use permit

1427
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:53,440
through june of 2022 is a new

1428
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,800
question for whoever would not answer it

1429
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,960
is there

1430
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,319
an allowance for a new business in town

1431
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,520
to use that

1432
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:02,400
um that um opportunity or is it

1433
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,000
something

1434
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:08,240
we can condition um condition

1435
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,200
uh and address in in the the use

1436
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:14,160
conditions for this application

1437
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,480
council member intended to address

1438
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,119
existing businesses when coveted hit

1439
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,640
so we could include a condition um

1440
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:24,319
addressing that in some manner

1441
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,839
today so it's

1442
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:27,680
the economic program it's really was

1443
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:30,960
designed for businesses in place

1444
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,200
and so uh in reviewing this use permit

1445
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,240
we could add a condition to

1446
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,799
uh to uh restrict their use of that

1447
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,640
program

1448
00:54:36,799 --> 00:54:44,079
is that you're saying sandra

1449
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,400
yeah okay thank you um the other one is

1450
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,480
just

1451
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,079
uh consideration the fact that this is

1452
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,559
an historic building

1453
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,680
and that there will be new signage and

1454
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,400
um

1455
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,720
i'm not sure what our signage uh rules

1456
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,799
are

1457
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:58,880
currently but i would hope that a

1458
00:54:56,799 --> 00:55:03,200
condition would be that these signs

1459
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:04,880
um um are historic that when they're

1460
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,400
when their new signs are put up that

1461
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,760
they're historic that they match the

1462
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,359
character of the building that we don't

1463
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,920
see internally lit

1464
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:12,720
signage that if they are lit they're lit

1465
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,440
in a

1466
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:16,720
uh you know from lighting that's

1467
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,359
projecting back but

1468
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,000
um and so i just want to be sure that

1469
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:21,839
whatever

1470
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,240
changes there are in terms of that in

1471
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:25,119
the front setbacks of this building that

1472
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:29,200
we honor the

1473
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:29,200
historic character of the building

1474
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,480
and um maybe just the last question

1475
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,200
would be

1476
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,559
um about parking a general um a general

1477
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,839
question about parking again and

1478
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:41,920
employees that

1479
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:43,680
um the planning director if you could

1480
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,160
just address again quickly

1481
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,880
so as i said it it appears we there is

1482
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,960
an intensification of use because

1483
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,920
this is a wine tasting versus a retail

1484
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,680
that was there before

1485
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,000
what are the options that we consider

1486
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,839
again if we understand that there will

1487
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,040
be

1488
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:04,319
the employee parking might exceed the

1489
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:09,280
current allowances

1490
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:12,880
what are our options to allow the use

1491
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,880
if uh if those employees

1492
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,799
the number of employees do increase in

1493
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,839
the future

1494
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:21,119
um first i would just clarify that we

1495
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:23,599
wouldn't consider this an

1496
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:24,400
intensification of use but a change in

1497
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:27,200
use

1498
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,720
and that at least from a from a parking

1499
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,760
perspective it's the same

1500
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,880
parking standard that applies with that

1501
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,440
said however

1502
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,160
this business may have a higher staffing

1503
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,760
that relates

1504
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:42,480
that results in a greater impact to

1505
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,160
on-site and off-site parking and so as

1506
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,720
part of the employee parking management

1507
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,720
program

1508
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:50,160
we have options on how we manage that

1509
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:52,079
based on the number of employees that

1510
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,359
they've represented in the application

1511
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:56,799
we believe that all of those

1512
00:56:53,359 --> 00:57:00,160
can be met on site

1513
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:03,920
during the shift if those numbers

1514
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,480
increase we could include a conditional

1515
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,400
condition that they purchase in on one

1516
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,280
or more off-site spaces and designate

1517
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,440
where those are

1518
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:15,680
to be parked so just to clarify

1519
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,760
if we're concerned about that then it's

1520
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,319
important that we add a condition

1521
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,680
that they may be subject to the offside

1522
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:23,599
parking requirement

1523
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,359
if they exceed the number of employees

1524
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:29,119
that needs to be a condition

1525
00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:32,079
in the in the use permit

1526
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,640
i think we'd want to clarify yes all

1527
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:36,319
right

1528
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:38,400
thank you mayor thank you councillor

1529
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:41,520
doernbecher

1530
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:45,040
thank you and um thank you for the

1531
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,160
thorough questioning um it's it's very

1532
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,280
helpful

1533
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:54,319
i did want to ask uh sandra if there

1534
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:57,680
is a possibility that you know we the

1535
00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:58,480
um program that we have under the rescue

1536
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,599
program

1537
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:06,559
to help the businesses in town

1538
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:08,559
i i feel it's restrictive if we restrict

1539
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:10,960
this new business because

1540
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:12,960
they are starting off um in a

1541
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:16,319
disadvantaged time too

1542
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:19,880
and so i i don't know that it would be

1543
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:22,559
uh necessary to restrict their

1544
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,119
participation in having the outdoor

1545
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:26,400
seating

1546
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:29,440
through june of 2022

1547
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,440
like the other businesses so

1548
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,359
that's something i'd like to bring up

1549
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,240
for our discussion when we get there

1550
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:39,359
but is it possible that we could include

1551
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,359
them in that program

1552
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,559
yes you are free to discuss that tonight

1553
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,839
and see what

1554
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:46,319
parameters you want to put on the

1555
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:49,839
cornerstone use if approved

1556
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:53,119
okay and um

1557
00:58:49,839 --> 00:58:55,599
garbage collection i'm i'm

1558
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:56,640
that particular corner i'd i've not

1559
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,280
noticed

1560
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,119
problems with the toters being out and

1561
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,799
left out and all of that because

1562
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:09,040
it is such a busy uh business section

1563
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:09,040
so anyway thank you

1564
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,920
thank you councilman dorenbecker uh i

1565
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,440
don't see any of the council hands so

1566
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,119
i'm going to

1567
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,640
ask a couple things of staff and then

1568
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:21,760
we'll get to our

1569
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,440
public hearing in the guests first of

1570
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:28,319
all sandra are you comfortable with

1571
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:31,760
the food pairings as

1572
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:33,280
proposed in compliance with our

1573
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,520
our current ordinance in terms of bite

1574
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,559
size pairings and

1575
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,960
secondary not no menu selections and all

1576
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,960
that

1577
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,960
you feel like that whole program is

1578
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,799
compliant

1579
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,000
yes i do feel like it's that it

1580
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:48,559
satisfies the four different

1581
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,319
standards in that definition i think it

1582
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:52,240
does go beyond what we're seeing at

1583
00:59:50,319 --> 00:59:55,040
other tasting rooms and it has

1584
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,040
um and because of that it's worth a

1585
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,839
discussion at the council too

1586
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,799
just to um really for staff to have

1587
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:04,319
feedback for

1588
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:06,559
future instances um but

1589
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:08,880
they do have that bite-sized quality

1590
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:11,760
even if it's a tiny bit larger

1591
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:14,240
um and they you know there are four of

1592
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,880
these prepared for four specific wines

1593
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,119
you can't get it purchased outside of a

1594
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,359
wine tasting so yes i do feel like it

1595
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:23,119
satisfies that standards just in a more

1596
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:25,920
unique way

1597
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:27,440
yeah i i agree with how you're reading

1598
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,000
that i want to just confirm that with

1599
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,359
you because

1600
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:33,359
i've said uh numerous times before uh

1601
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:35,280
you know long gone are the days of

1602
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:37,920
oyster crackers and pretzels

1603
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,040
uh with food pairings and if you're

1604
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,599
gonna have

1605
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,640
elegant uh bites of food with your wine

1606
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,359
chasing you're going to do it in

1607
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,079
youngville

1608
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:46,960
of any places so i think it's quite

1609
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,960
reasonable

1610
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,960
i just wanted to confirm we have not had

1611
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,119
an outside restaurant

1612
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,040
as a partner for the food but it's

1613
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:57,599
really not about we've never really

1614
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,359
said where you should be preparing it we

1615
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,000
just said you can't prepare it on site

1616
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:02,480
so

1617
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,920
um you can you know kind of the last

1618
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,559
mile of prep

1619
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,160
on site but not actually cooking uh

1620
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:10,720
those kind of things so

1621
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,319
i agree that i think it's compliant a

1622
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
similar question related to their

1623
01:01:12,319 --> 01:01:16,799
request for

1624
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,760
special events um mostly i'm

1625
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:20,480
anticipating

1626
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,520
uh club member events things like that

1627
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,359
you feel like

1628
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,400
all of that is uh in um it is consistent

1629
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:28,079
with what we

1630
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,599
are already doing with our other tasting

1631
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:32,079
rooms

1632
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:33,920
very much so and i would say that the

1633
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,480
the number of events requested by this

1634
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,359
applicant

1635
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,960
are far fewer than what other pacing

1636
01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:39,760
rooms have requested and the council's

1637
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,160
approved

1638
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,040
those are more in the range of 30 or

1639
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,319
more a year

1640
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:50,960
so this seems reasonable yeah right

1641
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:52,960
thank you do we need to have any kind of

1642
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,160
traffic plan i know we've done that in

1643
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,039
some places where

1644
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,640
uh space is limited for those guests for

1645
01:01:57,039 --> 01:02:00,079
parking

1646
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,480
do we need to include that as a

1647
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,960
condition for the largest of the special

1648
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160
events

1649
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,720
that there is either some kind of

1650
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,160
shuttle program or off-site parking plan

1651
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,839
that's presented

1652
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,520
would that be consistent or not

1653
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:13,520
necessary

1654
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,440
we could add that specifically although

1655
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,559
i think i captured that in the condition

1656
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,280
that requires them

1657
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,520
to report on the details of each of the

1658
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,079
events and allows us to

1659
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,559
condition some type of plan or parking

1660
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:28,160
solution

1661
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:30,559
so you've got it covered it's what

1662
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:35,440
you're saying okay

1663
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:37,520
great so um there was a reference to um

1664
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,960
the total number of tasting rooms is 15

1665
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,079
in town

1666
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,440
um i want to be very careful that we are

1667
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,599
not

1668
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,559
putting the burden on any one particular

1669
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,400
business to

1670
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,400
determine whether the

1671
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,520
i will say the fair market is saturated

1672
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:57,119
or not

1673
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,680
to my knowledge we have never had a

1674
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:01,440
tasting room fail for a lack of business

1675
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,280
and i know that our applicant is very

1676
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,319
aware of having been here for

1677
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:10,480
some years prior in the same

1678
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:14,400
vicinity that it's not about

1679
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,640
a lack of business so much as control of

1680
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,400
sight in some cases in control of

1681
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,400
property

1682
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:25,280
so i just caution us to to go too far

1683
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,280
with considering

1684
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,640
when we don't really have any evidence

1685
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,839
that we have

1686
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,799
we have too many or enough we have not

1687
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:35,920
seen

1688
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:38,079
any fall short

1689
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,319
even i would say during the pandemic we

1690
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:41,359
have had an amazing survival rate of our

1691
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:43,599
businesses so

1692
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:45,839
i just bring that up for future

1693
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:48,319
consideration

1694
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:49,440
in terms of the outdoor seating there's

1695
01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:52,960
no question

1696
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,680
it can be handled there's capacity there

1697
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,400
i know

1698
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,280
jcb did it for some months when they

1699
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,520
were

1700
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,920
extending in that backyard and they even

1701
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,000
had some areas tented

1702
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,079
but i guess the question is the impact

1703
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,640
on the parking

1704
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:10,000
to add those 16 seats so you're if i'm

1705
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,240
hearing you correctly from council

1706
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,960
member knights questioning

1707
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,520
or it might have been the vice mayor the

1708
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,920
16

1709
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,920
additional outdoor seats would

1710
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:24,839
potentially cause a parking

1711
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:27,359
challenge without those as part of the

1712
01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:29,359
permanent permit

1713
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:31,119
they are basically compliant with

1714
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:33,359
parking

1715
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:35,200
with the standard with the capacity

1716
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:37,440
minus the 16.

1717
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,680
so if the 16 outdoor seats or whatever

1718
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:43,760
number of outdoor seats

1719
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,760
came a different way than the

1720
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,720
i'll say basic use permit that we're

1721
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,760
discussing tonight

1722
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,520
like if they were added to the economic

1723
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,319
recovery program

1724
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,960
for a period right now that has been

1725
01:04:56,319 --> 01:05:00,480
defined

1726
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:03,119
through june 30th of 2022

1727
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,920
that would be the possibility of finding

1728
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:06,720
out

1729
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:10,000
what might be the impacts without having

1730
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:14,000
added those 16 seats to the

1731
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,039
basic use permit conditions correct

1732
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:21,520
yes that could be a way to test impact

1733
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:22,559
okay and i just want to get some clarity

1734
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,520
and advise me i brought up something

1735
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:26,799
about 38

1736
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:29,440
retail requirement can you clarify

1737
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:31,599
and whether it's sandra you can do it or

1738
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,000
i'll ask the vice mayor

1739
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,520
what's the idea behind trying to require

1740
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,960
38

1741
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,599
retail is at to recognize that this is a

1742
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,480
different

1743
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,880
business than the previous uses in that

1744
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,880
space

1745
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:52,960
lock in a higher percentage because

1746
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,640
of the loss of traditional retail from

1747
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:58,559
that space but i'll allow

1748
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:01,200
the vice mayor to clarify greater

1749
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:02,240
yes uh thank you that's basically it

1750
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,599
that this

1751
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,799
has historically this has been retail

1752
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:10,160
for quite some time

1753
01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:11,839
and um especially this business model

1754
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,880
where there's a larger space and a

1755
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:16,160
sublease

1756
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,520
uh the two entrances uh yes

1757
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:22,559
i would like to see a condition in there

1758
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:25,200
to retain as much retail as they can

1759
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:27,359
and obviously this business plan i

1760
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,920
believe will work with 38

1761
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:31,200
and they are the lessee the retail is a

1762
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,000
sub lessee

1763
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,920
so that's where i'm going with it to

1764
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,760
maintain as much retail as we can

1765
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:41,760
and diversity and i believe that to be

1766
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,760
the case i did not want to assume

1767
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,039
uh that i was interpreting your

1768
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,839
statement correctly

1769
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:49,680
so with that uh sandra i'm trying to

1770
01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:52,799
scroll but this computer is

1771
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,640
loading it slowly do we have a

1772
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:56,000
do you remember the percentage that the

1773
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:59,760
retail is

1774
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:03,039
as proposed the

1775
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:06,079
25 is the requirement by the policy

1776
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:06,559
this applicant is proposing 38 and

1777
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:10,319
that's

1778
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:12,720
in the south um end of the building

1779
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:13,440
exclusively although they have

1780
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,880
interspersed

1781
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,559
retail throughout the tasting room

1782
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,960
itself so they i think they probably

1783
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:21,599
have even more than 38

1784
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,880
but 38 is just at 950 square feet at

1785
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:25,280
south end

1786
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,240
for tina stevens that's on the other

1787
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,359
side of the

1788
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,559
partition basically yeah so vice mayor

1789
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:32,240
are you saying that you just want to

1790
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:32,799
codify that 38 is that what you're

1791
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,000
saying

1792
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:39,119
in case there's a change in retail

1793
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:42,319
partnership yes i see

1794
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:46,000
okay now i've got it clear

1795
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:48,240
okay last question sandra have we

1796
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,880
i know that we have seen transition of

1797
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,880
use in

1798
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:55,200
other commercial spaces from let's say

1799
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:58,880
an antique

1800
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:02,000
shop or an art gallery and it's become

1801
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:05,039
a tasting room or some other kind of use

1802
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,760
have rather have we ever required

1803
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:12,000
a percentage of the previous use be

1804
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:14,319
obligated to the new use do you know

1805
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,480
no we've just applied the retail

1806
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:17,279
diversity policy according to its

1807
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:21,199
standards

1808
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:24,000
we haven't done an increased requirement

1809
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:25,759
okay and they're already with 38 they're

1810
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,880
well over the 25 that we

1811
01:08:25,759 --> 01:08:32,159
have in our minimum requirement

1812
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,719
okay right okay those are my questions

1813
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:35,520
for now

1814
01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:36,799
i don't see any other council hand so uh

1815
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,839
thank you for your patience

1816
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:41,520
uh guests and i will say to at least

1817
01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:44,000
some of you welcome back

1818
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,719
uh to have this conversation in young

1819
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,719
phil

1820
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:51,440
uh i very much appreciate that you are

1821
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:52,960
interested in coming back and so uh i

1822
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:54,719
invite i'm not sure which of you is

1823
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,920
going to speak first um

1824
01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:00,239
uh okay i see one hand uh kerry

1825
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,560
thank you um feel free to go ahead i'm

1826
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,480
gonna formally open the public hearing

1827
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,839
and and hear from the applicant and if

1828
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:07,120
there are

1829
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:09,199
more than one of you that's going to

1830
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,199
speak just uh please

1831
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:12,719
respect the length of time but we uh

1832
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,679
you're our only public hearing tonight

1833
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:16,000
so

1834
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:17,679
please go ahead well i appreciate that

1835
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,799
first of all i want to say really thank

1836
01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:20,799
you very much

1837
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:21,920
mayor dunbar vice mayor dorman and

1838
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:24,319
council members

1839
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,600
uh mueller doernbecher and knight thank

1840
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,920
you for the opportunity

1841
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,440
for reviewing our application and for

1842
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,359
your consideration

1843
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:34,080
um i'm carrie arnger and i'm the

1844
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:37,759
winemaker for cornerstone sellers

1845
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,520
off and on since 2006 i also

1846
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:41,279
am the general manager now for

1847
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,880
cornerstone sellers

1848
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,400
so i'll be doing both of those i have

1849
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,799
both those hats on today i think my

1850
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,719
general manager hat is on

1851
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:50,560
we also have two other people joining us

1852
01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:53,120
dr mike droguetsky

1853
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,000
um the proprietor of cornerstone sellers

1854
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,440
uh since we

1855
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,800
flung our doors open in 1991 um to this

1856
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,840
month actually is our 30 year

1857
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,040
anniversary

1858
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,480
of making wine in napa valley and then

1859
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,000
we're also

1860
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:08,080
lynne prescott is our director of

1861
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,679
operations um and we wouldn't be

1862
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,120
anywhere without her so she's on the

1863
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:12,400
call as well

1864
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,320
i'm just going to go through a quick

1865
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,920
little overview of cornerstone for those

1866
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,640
of you that don't know us all that well

1867
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,040
and

1868
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,840
mike and lynn are here to answer

1869
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,600
questions

1870
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,760
if there's any other questions so um

1871
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,920
really i'm the only one that's going to

1872
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,920
do just a short little presentation most

1873
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:32,400
of you probably know cornerstone

1874
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:34,400
from us having been here from oa to 2017

1875
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,320
when we left downville we opened up a

1876
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,920
taste room in downtown napa and we have

1877
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,640
been dying to get back to youngville

1878
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,520
ever since so we were lucky that this

1879
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,239
opportunity

1880
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,400
um has come forth and we're super

1881
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:48,400
excited to be coming back home

1882
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,080
so this is great thank you this is just

1883
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:53,040
a little um

1884
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,640
presentation that we um that that i put

1885
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,120
together just to hit the high points

1886
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,000
in the narrative that i submitted which

1887
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,960
i know you all have

1888
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,000
and have probably read so if you just

1889
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,719
want to

1890
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,719
flip the slide

1891
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,800
there's a there's an overview again 1991

1892
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,440
dr mike droguetsky and a friend of his

1893
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,840
came up to

1894
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:15,840
visit randy dunn up on howell mountain

1895
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,440
and decided that getting into the wine

1896
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,679
business was a grand idea

1897
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:22,080
and we've been making howland mountain

1898
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:24,239
cabernet since 1991.

1899
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,920
again we were in youngville from 0a to

1900
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:28,960
2017. 2017

1901
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,960
in the space that jcb now has our

1902
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,560
business model does rely primarily on

1903
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:36,000
direct-to-consumer sales

1904
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:38,080
on-site sales and wine club memberships

1905
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,360
so this is really an ideal spot for us

1906
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,640
if you look at the traffic and the

1907
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,159
demographics and

1908
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,840
you know you you know you know who's

1909
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:45,520
coming to youngville and

1910
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,840
um i believe that our product and our

1911
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,960
brand suits suits that um

1912
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:53,679
beautifully we uh craft four wines

1913
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,560
in total and um seven of them are direct

1914
01:11:53,679 --> 01:11:56,000
to consumer

1915
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,159
they're only available in the tasting

1916
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,600
room um and you can get them on the

1917
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:01,120
website as a club member

1918
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,120
we also have for the wines we make a

1919
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,600
little bit more of that and that does go

1920
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,440
out to

1921
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,960
a couple of key markets in the united

1922
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:10,159
states we're in texas

1923
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:14,000
um tennessee of course where uh

1924
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:16,400
uh dr durgetsky and his wife live um

1925
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,679
and in california of course so what i

1926
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,480
love about it though is we

1927
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:22,159
source from some really top-notch

1928
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:24,640
vineyards in napa valley

1929
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:26,880
we primarily make the wines from napa

1930
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,600
valley sub avias calistoga rutherford

1931
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,440
oakville

1932
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,120
and soon to be out phil we have a

1933
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:32,719
vineyard coming online this year that's

1934
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:36,000
out if that's young phil so we're

1935
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,960
very excited about that little slide

1936
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,760
there we go

1937
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,560
uh in the community you know um when we

1938
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,159
were

1939
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,480
here in young phil before we were just

1940
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:46,239
really good neighbors i wasn't um

1941
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:49,600
acting as general manager then i was the

1942
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:51,679
wine maker but we were always being uh

1943
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,840
asked requested if we would participate

1944
01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:55,360
and lynn has been here all that time and

1945
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,800
lin's just said yes

1946
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,719
yep what do you need what are you going

1947
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:01,840
to do so we have loved

1948
01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:03,040
participating um with all the events

1949
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,840
that are going on

1950
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:07,280
in youngville we've contributed to the

1951
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,600
veterans home and to the events

1952
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,120
they've done we actually i think we'll

1953
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,320
probably have some folks at the veterans

1954
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,600
home that will be pretty happy that

1955
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,000
we're back

1956
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,199
they would stop in on a regular basis

1957
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,800
our staff knew them

1958
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:21,120
they would come in and get a splash of

1959
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,000
this and just come and chat and it was

1960
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,400
just really

1961
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,600
great having them um be a part of our

1962
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,480
community

1963
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,920
and then cornerstone was one of the um

1964
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:32,000
fire donation centers

1965
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,760
when they had the middleton fire and i

1966
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,120
did walk into the taste room a couple of

1967
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,040
times and really could barely get around

1968
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:40,400
there was so much outpouring of

1969
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,960
support and food and and fire supply so

1970
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,199
cornerstone then managed to get those to

1971
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,800
where those people needed that most so

1972
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:48,640
we look forward to really being back

1973
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,159
into the tight-knit community

1974
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,080
that young phil is that we haven't

1975
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:54,080
really experienced in in napa

1976
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,360
i am actually very excited about this um

1977
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:02,239
team stevens

1978
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,199
they have a great product um i'm

1979
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:05,840
actually a customer

1980
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:06,400
i have some of their clothes on today um

1981
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,840
they're

1982
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:12,239
high quality they're um well made

1983
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,239
and they're affordable and i think

1984
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:16,880
they're gonna be a really great

1985
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:18,320
asset for town i think we'll have people

1986
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,920
coming actually from

1987
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,159
all parts of the valley to come in and

1988
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:24,640
shop here you can go to their website

1989
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,440
they've got a really broad selection of

1990
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,640
clothing

1991
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:30,800
it's one size fits most most of them

1992
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,920
and which is great i'm super tall and

1993
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,400
like

1994
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:36,159
i i actually i love these clothes um

1995
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,280
i've been working with tina now for

1996
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:39,199
we've been working on this a couple of

1997
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:42,000
months and she's great

1998
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:42,960
she's salt of the earth but a good

1999
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,360
business person

2000
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,640
she's got locations in some very very

2001
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:50,640
high-end towns

2002
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:53,679
um they're in palm desert they're in um

2003
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:55,760
st simon island down in georgia so

2004
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:57,679
they've got a track record and they've

2005
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,800
been incredibly successful

2006
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:03,199
so i'm i'm very excited to have them be

2007
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,640
part of our project and while they'll

2008
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:07,120
occupy

2009
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,640
the southern end of the building we have

2010
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,080
designated a couple of spots where

2011
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,840
they're going to do some merchandising

2012
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,159
and be able to put some other

2013
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,920
um there's one window in particular that

2014
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:18,800
we're going to use for them on our

2015
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,840
that's kind of in our main tasting area

2016
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,159
so that they can

2017
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,040
we can do some merchandising there so

2018
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:25,760
and they're just

2019
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,159
super easy to work with we we love them

2020
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,040
so

2021
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:31,280
that's the tina stevens piece of it next

2022
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,280
one

2023
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:37,920
uh arena gallery um our

2024
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:40,000
director of marketing matt is actually

2025
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,880
has worked with arena in the past

2026
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,360
and they were anxious to come on board

2027
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,520
we

2028
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,920
originally thought that maybe it would

2029
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,840
take care of a part of our retail

2030
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,960
piece but tina stevens really fits the

2031
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,560
bill um

2032
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,000
much more you know really what we were

2033
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,840
looking for but

2034
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,040
we actually also want to work with them

2035
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,360
so we'll have

2036
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,880
some wall space that's dedicated and if

2037
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,520
you look on the site plan you can see

2038
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,280
there are some

2039
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,800
pedestals where we'll be able to place

2040
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,640
some art

2041
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,239
they don't have a staff person that

2042
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:11,440
would be in our space

2043
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:13,280
um each of the pieces of art has a qrp

2044
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,800
code on it you can take your phone

2045
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,480
and you can just click that and it tells

2046
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,440
you all the information and the artist

2047
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:20,080
and all that

2048
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:21,679
and then we have the hotline so we will

2049
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,120
have someone that we have someone that

2050
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:24,640
is interested in the art that we have

2051
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,800
someone from arena galleries

2052
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:29,199
that will that will jump in and be able

2053
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,280
to close be able to close that deal

2054
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:34,000
so that's that's how that would work the

2055
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:37,520
arena uh gallery piece

2056
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,040
the next one and then the hospitality

2057
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,800
and i know um

2058
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,320
this is a we've had lots of discussion

2059
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,120
about it already and we'll probably have

2060
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,600
some more

2061
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,520
um and what i wanted to clarify is we

2062
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:50,560
offer a set flight

2063
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,080
of wines and if there is uh cheese or

2064
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,080
charcuterie offered it is

2065
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,440
a cheese that is specifically paired for

2066
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,920
one wine so

2067
01:16:55,440 --> 01:17:01,040
if you like look at the four flights in

2068
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,800
the in the lower tier the fifteen dollar

2069
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,239
curated cheese plate that we get from

2070
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,000
gary's which

2071
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:07,679
um they've actually been great working

2072
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,239
through this pandemic with us because

2073
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:10,560
those

2074
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:12,480
they all come individually wrapped and

2075
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,199
so the guest actually

2076
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:16,159
opens them up they don't even get we

2077
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,440
don't even touch them

2078
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:19,360
they don't even need to be prepped at

2079
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:21,199
all they come in and and the guests just

2080
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,280
to take the lid off of them and

2081
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:24,960
and there they are and they can't be

2082
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,480
purchased without a flight that's

2083
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,560
that's not what we're doing we actually

2084
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:31,120
are trying to enhance uh the wines and

2085
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,400
have people have an experience

2086
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,320
um and then the same with the

2087
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,400
charcuterie platter um

2088
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:38,159
currently a no tree restaurant is doing

2089
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,600
that for us and the chef's very familiar

2090
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:41,600
with our wines

2091
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,120
we sit down with him if we switch a wine

2092
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,000
out of the flight then we sit down and

2093
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,600
we pick a new piece

2094
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,159
of charcuterie or salumi that goes with

2095
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,280
the wine in particular as we're changing

2096
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:54,640
vintages or or

2097
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:57,440
swapping out on our wine tasting

2098
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,880
list so then there's the and then so

2099
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,679
that's our those are our two signature

2100
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,199
flights

2101
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:03,440
oh and then the other couple of pictures

2102
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:06,560
at the bottom um we also have some

2103
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:09,040
um a curated uh assortment of nuts that

2104
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:11,280
um we we actually supply when people are

2105
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:15,199
tasting if they're not gonna order

2106
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,280
and don't want to do a tasting

2107
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,400
the tasting bites they we've got nuts

2108
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,400
that we can

2109
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,040
offer them as well and then the other

2110
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:26,080
thing we have are some curated spices

2111
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:28,159
we work with winemakers pantry and they

2112
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,159
have done custom spices for sauvignon

2113
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:32,400
blanc or for pinot noir and

2114
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:33,760
and it's sharon de monte and she sits

2115
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,520
down with our wines and they

2116
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,440
she's paired those to go exactly with

2117
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,960
their wines i've been using for carrie's

2118
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:40,640
kitchen

2119
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,320
we do carries kitchen live on facebook

2120
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,760
and instagram every thursday and so

2121
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,239
we've been doing a lot of cooking with

2122
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,199
the

2123
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:48,640
spices and they've grown very popular so

2124
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:51,360
and then the next one

2125
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,120
that might be it one more yep then

2126
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,600
that's this is the last part so

2127
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,400
and i know this has come up as well and

2128
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,520
this is the

2129
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,800
um food and wine pairing experience we

2130
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,480
have four bites that

2131
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,120
are paired exactly um with the wines in

2132
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,280
fact i've

2133
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,199
supplied those little print outs in with

2134
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,360
with our narrative

2135
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:12,880
so we know exactly the hamachi crudo

2136
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,440
goes with the sauvignon blanc

2137
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,480
and we know the arancini goes with the

2138
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:18,719
pinot noir

2139
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:21,120
so just just to be clear that they

2140
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:23,679
really are for that specific wine

2141
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,760
they have to be ordered in advance um

2142
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:27,440
our tastings are forty dollars

2143
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,880
a flight and it adds another forty

2144
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:29,920
dollars on so it's eighty dollars a

2145
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,719
person

2146
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:33,679
um to do the no tree the wine of food

2147
01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:36,719
pairing and again

2148
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:39,520
by by uh reservation only

2149
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:41,199
so they've been very successful we would

2150
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,719
love to do this in yonkville

2151
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:45,520
um with and it says yet to be determined

2152
01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:48,239
local shelf

2153
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,840
chef because logistically i'm not sure

2154
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,760
how we'll work that out yet

2155
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,280
it worked down in napa because we were

2156
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,159
in the same courtyard with the notre

2157
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,600
restaurant

2158
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:57,440
and they just walked it over from their

2159
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,440
kitchen so

2160
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:00,960
we have yet to to figure out the

2161
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:03,360
logistics on that but

2162
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,719
i'm sure the team will do that and we

2163
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,960
plan to keep it the same

2164
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:08,320
the same four wines and then the same

2165
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:11,679
type of nibbles

2166
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:15,760
at the same price point so that's

2167
01:20:11,679 --> 01:20:17,679
so that's my that's my little overview

2168
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,280
great thank you very much are there any

2169
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:22,159
questions from council

2170
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,920
about the applicant's presentation so

2171
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:27,199
far

2172
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:29,440
uh yes i think i s did i see councilman

2173
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:30,960
becker reaching for you know what i'm

2174
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,679
sorry mayor can i interrupt for just one

2175
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,800
second

2176
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:35,520
go ahead um tina stevens actually wanted

2177
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,920
to be here

2178
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,280
on the on this zoom today they're

2179
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,280
traveling to italy to work with their

2180
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,480
manufacturers but she did send a little

2181
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,520
video clip and i don't know if we can

2182
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:45,199
play it

2183
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,040
but she'd love just it's just a minute

2184
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:49,920
and or so

2185
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,719
if not that's fine i will turn to it

2186
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,239
looks like

2187
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:57,360
either eddie or uh

2188
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:58,719
there she is it looks like it i just

2189
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,000
want to take a minute to introduce

2190
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:02,400
myself i'm so sorry

2191
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,600
that i can't be there with you today but

2192
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,639
i'm tina and i'm

2193
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,560
in our palm desert location right now

2194
01:21:06,639 --> 01:21:10,400
i want to just give you a quick overview

2195
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,320
about what it is i do

2196
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,000
so in my boutiques i design everything

2197
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,800
that's in the boutiques the whole idea

2198
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,239
behind it is travel friendly lifestyle

2199
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,239
clothing however that

2200
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:21,600
kind of encompasses a big range really

2201
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:22,960
the most important thing

2202
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,159
is that we get to a certain point in

2203
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,000
life where you know what we want to look

2204
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:26,960
good but we're not willing to sacrifice

2205
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,120
comfort so yeah

2206
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,360
i do a lot of that kind of stuff nice

2207
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:35,040
stretchy comfortable and easy

2208
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:36,320
all of my my italian pieces my linens my

2209
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,000
cottons my silks

2210
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,159
all of that machine washable easy to

2211
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:43,199
care for the whole idea

2212
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:45,280
of what i like to try to provide is a

2213
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:47,840
high-end boutique service

2214
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,480
quality product but at a moderate price

2215
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,679
point

2216
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:54,400
so we have very very high-end clientele

2217
01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:55,280
that enjoy that but our core customer

2218
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,080
are actually

2219
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,280
quite a few of our locals in all of our

2220
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,120
destinations where we're at

2221
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,280
and just your everyday customers that

2222
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,679
come in that really enjoy not only

2223
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,400
the traveling aspect but the versatility

2224
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:08,960
aspect

2225
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,719
of the clothing that i design as well as

2226
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,719
at moderate price point

2227
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:14,560
the service aspect is something that is

2228
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:17,280
very very important to me

2229
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,239
and because of that i like to show up

2230
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,960
personally

2231
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,920
when we open a new location so that i

2232
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,400
can make sure

2233
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,159
our staff is trained to give the service

2234
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,920
that our customers have come to expect

2235
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:29,679
from us because our customers do travel

2236
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,000
location to location and we'll come see

2237
01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:34,400
us for example our palm desert customers

2238
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,360
have mentioned how they also travel up

2239
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,440
to yachtville

2240
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,760
and the wine region as well so we'd

2241
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:42,080
hopefully see some of those folks there

2242
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:43,760
in any case if we are fortunate enough

2243
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,520
to receive your approval i look forward

2244
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,719
to hopefully meeting all of you because

2245
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,719
i will be there

2246
01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:50,239
personally to get that store up and

2247
01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:51,920
running for a few months i'd like to get

2248
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:53,760
to know the community and like i said i

2249
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,400
like to ingrain our culture

2250
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,040
with our employees in each location so

2251
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,000
that our

2252
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,040
clients can have that same experience of

2253
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,760
a boutique

2254
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,639
boutique experience with a moderate

2255
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,639
price point

2256
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:07,760
and enjoyable clothing so looking

2257
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:10,480
forward to meeting you and thank you

2258
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,480
again for the time

2259
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,400
okay thank you i i see actually uh vice

2260
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320
mayor

2261
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,920
dorman has her hand raised go ahead vice

2262
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:20,560
mayor

2263
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,360
um thank you for the presentation this

2264
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,639
project has

2265
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:26,159
a lot of um good things starting with

2266
01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:28,880
your name because it's so

2267
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:30,080
almost like mine so i know just spelled

2268
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,679
a little differently

2269
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:35,760
that's right but um i do you did hear

2270
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:37,280
my questions and i appreciate to steph i

2271
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:40,000
appreciate you sitting through those

2272
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,679
um i'd like to follow up with you uh

2273
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,719
just on a couple of them

2274
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:47,840
the um cheese and chicuteri

2275
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:48,239
i i think i get the gist of it how far

2276
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,600
in

2277
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:52,960
advance do they have would a patron have

2278
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:56,080
to order

2279
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:59,520
24 hours so even for the

2280
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:01,760
the 15 cheese plate 24 hours well

2281
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,280
well it's hard to say because of kobit

2282
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,600
um we've been having to do it so we're

2283
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,679
not

2284
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,120
having cheese go bad we just we've only

2285
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:08,159
been ordering it as we've needed it

2286
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,480
needed it so

2287
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:13,199
yeah 24 hours helps we keep a few on

2288
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:16,800
hand if people come in but we don't

2289
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:18,800
stock right yeah but you're willing to

2290
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,480
um you weren't with us you don't know

2291
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,880
how long we had to anguish over what a

2292
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:23,920
bite

2293
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,120
is so um order in advance meaning when

2294
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,520
they sit down

2295
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,719
they need to order wine the flight and

2296
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,440
the plate together

2297
01:24:28,719 --> 01:24:32,159
oh yeah okay absolutely and how about

2298
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:34,000
your

2299
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,920
you are planning on assuming bottle and

2300
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,520
glass service

2301
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,360
we you know what we've talked around and

2302
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,440
bounced it back and forth we do

2303
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,280
offer it in napa and if we can do it in

2304
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,679
young phil that that would be great but

2305
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,560
um

2306
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:46,960
it it's it's not a deal breaker you know

2307
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,520
our

2308
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,520
clientele really is we're about selling

2309
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,639
the wines and just selling a glass

2310
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:56,320
it's not our business model so if we

2311
01:24:54,639 --> 01:25:00,000
were to approve that

2312
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:01,600
um you would i'm assuming be coming back

2313
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,440
to us with some sort of a different

2314
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,520
pairing with that

2315
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:07,120
because it would not be specifically

2316
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,400
curated per se

2317
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,320
yeah we would have to do a different

2318
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:13,600
pairing for that okay

2319
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:18,560
yeah um and i

2320
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:21,120
uh i think that's it i like your idea

2321
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:24,159
for arena that you have the hotline

2322
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,960
and the um code so that that answered

2323
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:28,480
that question

2324
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,920
um and

2325
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:32,000
you're not i know i don't think you're

2326
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,360
planning any special events for

2327
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:37,920
tina is that did i read that correctly

2328
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,480
no we aren't planning any special events

2329
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,280
for her

2330
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:42,400
um but because we're a wide open space

2331
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,320
she can certainly

2332
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,960
you know if she's got a new release of

2333
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,719
her italian line or something like that

2334
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,639
you know we would probably do it along

2335
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:52,400
with we're also going to have people

2336
01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:54,639
you know so we would do it in great

2337
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,840
coordination with events we already have

2338
01:25:54,639 --> 01:25:58,960
planned

2339
01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:00,400
okay thank you very much appreciate it

2340
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,400
thank you and i'm going to follow up on

2341
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,360
the vice mayor a little bit

2342
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,719
as it relates to arena how does the

2343
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,080
sales tax

2344
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:10,960
work in that case they're a separate

2345
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,320
company

2346
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:17,679
in your space and if they're talking

2347
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:22,239
remotely to a buyer how are we capturing

2348
01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:24,239
the tax at the location of the sale

2349
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:25,920
do you know that i do not know that

2350
01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:28,560
that's an excellent question

2351
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:30,719
and i wonder i wonder if our either town

2352
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,159
manager or town attorney would know that

2353
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:34,000
the town manager would have a

2354
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:36,639
recommendation for you

2355
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,360
which is that we had a condition that

2356
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:40,239
the

2357
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:42,000
uh arena gallery has to maintain a a

2358
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:44,880
youngville

2359
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,080
kind of location for their sales

2360
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,480
transactions

2361
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:51,280
and report from youngville otherwise it

2362
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:55,280
will go to one of their other

2363
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:56,800
sales locations yeah okay

2364
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,800
very good thank you for the

2365
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,920
clarification on that

2366
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,960
uh other questions from or do you have

2367
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,840
anyone else

2368
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,239
dr dregetti or anyone else uh presenting

2369
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,360
or

2370
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:10,320
or carry results but is is uh mike on

2371
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,679
the line

2372
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:16,000
yes yes yes uh

2373
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:18,080
hello mayor and i want to thank you vice

2374
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:21,040
mayor council members

2375
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,560
town manager director for listening to

2376
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,840
our application and request

2377
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:27,280
and i just want to say that we felt that

2378
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,440
home in downfield

2379
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,400
and we feel that the people in yanfield

2380
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:32,159
also

2381
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,440
felt that we were part of the community

2382
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:36,239
and uh

2383
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:39,199
we would relish the opportunity to again

2384
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:40,880
join the output community

2385
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:42,880
thank you very much doctor appreciate

2386
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:45,280
your comments

2387
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,320
so i believe that is it for our

2388
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,520
application

2389
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:51,040
presentation uh michelle do we have any

2390
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,520
public comment that's been received for

2391
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,520
this item

2392
01:27:54,400 --> 01:28:00,080
no mayor we have not okay thank you

2393
01:27:57,440 --> 01:28:01,440
so i believe we will go ahead and close

2394
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,400
the public hearing then

2395
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,760
and continue the discussion by the

2396
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,840
council

2397
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,880
so if there's anyone that would like to

2398
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,639
start it looks like

2399
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:15,840
councilmember mueller you are

2400
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:15,840
volunteering to be first go ahead

2401
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,280
we do not hear you yet

2402
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:28,800
yes i am volunteering to be first and

2403
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,600
um i probably should just start off on

2404
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,800
the garbage

2405
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:34,800
so because uh everyone knows that's near

2406
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,760
and dear to my heart i think with all of

2407
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,840
our

2408
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,960
um other businesses are changing

2409
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,320
businesses we've

2410
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:44,960
always requested that uh they

2411
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,800
use a dumpster in the back i know it's

2412
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,040
all contingent on whether the garbage

2413
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,960
trucks can go in and pick them up but

2414
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,560
i think that makes sense i've always

2415
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,360
tried to get as many

2416
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,000
toters off the street especially in

2417
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,360
parking

2418
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:03,120
places that we can so

2419
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:08,320
i think that would be important so um

2420
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:11,120
with that said i um

2421
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,000
you know to me what we're really doing

2422
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,719
here is

2423
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,840
you know debating uh changing the

2424
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:19,440
current

2425
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:22,480
non-wine retail space into

2426
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:25,199
yet one more wine tasting room

2427
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:26,560
um i certainly got phone calls and i

2428
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:30,159
certainly

2429
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:33,760
think i can hear that uh collective

2430
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:35,520
sigh of oh no not more one one more wine

2431
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,239
tasting really on phil

2432
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,719
you know from our community as well as

2433
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:42,960
uh

2434
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:46,239
from the other wine tasting rooms um

2435
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:48,880
in our pre-covet days we allowed

2436
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:51,040
all new wine tasting rooms as i recall

2437
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,239
and the mayor i think discussed

2438
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:56,960
earlier to come to town because

2439
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:58,960
we generally felt that you know market

2440
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,920
forces like supply and demand would

2441
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,080
probably

2442
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:04,719
you know create the proper balance and

2443
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:07,760
diversity in our commercial development

2444
01:30:04,719 --> 01:30:09,679
and that each night or that you know uh

2445
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,199
each wine tasting room should be

2446
01:30:09,679 --> 01:30:13,679
evaluated on a

2447
01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:15,920
case-by-case basis so we've had those

2448
01:30:13,679 --> 01:30:19,679
discussions we've decided not to create

2449
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:23,360
any kind of specific policy but

2450
01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:26,800
now covet is has really

2451
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:29,199
changed um the future i i think in all

2452
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:32,560
aspects i think we've certainly seen

2453
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:35,440
so much change uh in uh how

2454
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:37,760
a lot of people are doing business and

2455
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:40,960
what new businesses might uh

2456
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:44,400
really you know come forward

2457
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:48,080
um yes we've got 14 wine tasting rooms

2458
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:51,199
and you know the question really is

2459
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:53,760
you know should we allow 15 i know

2460
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:55,920
garage might be going out but just for

2461
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,560
you know entertainment here 14 and 15

2462
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,360
for what we

2463
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:01,760
we have now and allowing another wine

2464
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:04,880
tasting room and a non-wine

2465
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:07,440
retail space that we currently have

2466
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,639
it's not a matter of how much is too

2467
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:14,000
many and how many

2468
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:16,719
or too few i'm very focused on

2469
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,760
another wine tasting room going into a

2470
01:31:16,719 --> 01:31:20,960
non-wine

2471
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:23,360
retail space i believe that

2472
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,560
our residents and our businesses are

2473
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:27,199
looking

2474
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,199
uh to our local government you know to

2475
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:30,960
allow for something different this time

2476
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:32,560
and i just don't really think we we

2477
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,840
should look away i think

2478
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:39,040
i think it's time to uh you know really

2479
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:41,440
have this discussion and as you know we

2480
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,840
begin to kind of emerge from covet and

2481
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:44,639
this

2482
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:47,199
really difficult uh challenging time i

2483
01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:47,199
really see

2484
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:52,320
the commercial in yonville i think

2485
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:53,920
there's a real silver lining

2486
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,600
for our businesses here a lot of

2487
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,400
opportunity

2488
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:00,159
for our community our residents and our

2489
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:03,120
guests

2490
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:04,000
and i think we really need to probably

2491
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:07,760
take a chance

2492
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:11,040
and you know really look forward to

2493
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,520
the future new opportunities probably

2494
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,360
toward

2495
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,120
a more balanced and diverse local

2496
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,760
economy and you know

2497
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,719
not just more of the same uh it's

2498
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,719
different and i'm i'm

2499
01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:22,400
willing to take a different stance this

2500
01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:24,320
time i think we need to

2501
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:26,480
really kind of come out of this um

2502
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,520
pandemic probably stronger than we were

2503
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:29,360
before

2504
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,840
and you know we've really taken some

2505
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:34,320
great steps in that direction already

2506
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,040
we've um you know we've given a lot of

2507
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,840
support

2508
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:40,239
uh for the extension of our economic

2509
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,639
recovery plan for businesses and that's

2510
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:45,520
been a great policy and extremely

2511
01:32:42,639 --> 01:32:48,000
well received so i i would really like

2512
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:50,560
to take a pause

2513
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,679
a pause in approving another wine

2514
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:55,440
tasting room

2515
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:57,520
because i believe given the opportunity

2516
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,480
another type of business will come

2517
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,679
forward

2518
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:04,639
you know we are yanfell after all and

2519
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:06,239
i would really greatly appreciate uh if

2520
01:33:04,639 --> 01:33:09,520
our landlords could really

2521
01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:11,920
kind of help drive the rebound and

2522
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,920
our economy to really kind of come back

2523
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,800
you know better and stronger

2524
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:18,800
and more balanced so um i like the

2525
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:22,159
clothing components application

2526
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,639
it's uh similar but you know very

2527
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,040
different

2528
01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:26,400
and i think might be very successful

2529
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:30,080
retail

2530
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:33,280
um i would like to see you know maybe

2531
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:35,280
if uh the landlord needs to rent it out

2532
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,560
maybe add a couple more interesting

2533
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,440
businesses in there and fill up the

2534
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:40,639
space

2535
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:41,520
um another wine tasting uh room with you

2536
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:44,480
know

2537
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:46,320
custom blended nuts and wall art um i'm

2538
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:49,120
just

2539
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,639
i that's not really what i'm looking for

2540
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,880
and you know especially

2541
01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:54,320
wine tasting that once again we're

2542
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,400
dealing with parking

2543
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,760
you know our parking requirements are

2544
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,239
pretty well laid out

2545
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,000
um you know going in saying this is how

2546
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:03,760
many employees you're going to have and

2547
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,440
you know once we find out you have more

2548
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,080
well we're just gonna you know

2549
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:09,679
change the parking to meet that so um

2550
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:13,120
those are my thoughts

2551
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:17,120
thank you councilmember doernbecher

2552
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,120
thank you um

2553
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:25,440
i remember cornerstone as a wonderful

2554
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,159
neighbor in our town very active with

2555
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:29,120
many of the

2556
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:30,800
events that we um you know host

2557
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:35,120
regularly and we still

2558
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:38,159
want to do those kinds of events and um

2559
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:40,239
i honestly think that the the

2560
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,440
clothing collection is going to be a big

2561
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:44,080
hit

2562
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:46,159
it looks like something that even our

2563
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:49,760
residents can enjoy

2564
01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:54,080
and i would like to i feel

2565
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:55,920
totally differently i i want to welcome

2566
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,920
cornerstone back to the town of

2567
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,080
yachtville

2568
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,760
i'm i think that it's really great that

2569
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:05,360
there's 38

2570
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:09,440
uh retail in the in the

2571
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:11,280
land and um you know i can understand

2572
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:13,360
the need for a dumpster if

2573
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,400
and i don't think that that's a deal

2574
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,679
breaker

2575
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:21,600
so i just i think

2576
01:35:17,679 --> 01:35:24,719
being part of the parking plan and

2577
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:27,360
with the retail clothing

2578
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:28,400
element i think is going to be wonderful

2579
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,760
and i i'm

2580
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:32,880
delighted to welcome you back to

2581
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,880
youngville personally

2582
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:37,679
thank you uh question quickly to sandra

2583
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:42,159
uh to try to clarify

2584
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:45,119
the waste hauling there is a dumpster

2585
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:46,159
in the back parking lot currently uh is

2586
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:48,239
it serving

2587
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:49,679
all of the businesses in the what is now

2588
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:52,639
called jcb village

2589
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:54,560
also known as whistle stop yes that

2590
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:56,239
trash enclosure area covers all the

2591
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,000
businesses in the complex okay so there

2592
01:35:56,239 --> 01:36:00,159
already is dumpster service

2593
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,440
and that would continue there may be in

2594
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:04,159
addition

2595
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:05,199
some recycle bins that town manager was

2596
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:07,600
alluding to

2597
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,840
that might be in addition to that

2598
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:13,040
dumpster

2599
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:13,040
correct yeah okay

2600
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,760
mayor you're muted sorry councilmember

2601
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:28,480
knight thank you vice mayor for

2602
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,480
covering for me

2603
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:35,760
thank you thank you mayor um

2604
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:37,679
so i'd like to get back to talk about a

2605
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:41,600
few of the conditions

2606
01:36:37,679 --> 01:36:44,320
but first i want to uh thank miss r

2607
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,840
arminger and miss prescott and the drago

2608
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:49,040
bragutski's for

2609
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:51,119
uh their application and for uh

2610
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,080
your uh willingness to return to the

2611
01:36:51,119 --> 01:36:54,800
yacht bill

2612
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,560
i can support the cornerstone sellers

2613
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,800
use permit application

2614
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,040
with some amended conditions because

2615
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,719
this is a primary commercial property it

2616
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:05,199
has washington street front

2617
01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:06,560
frontage and it's a historic building

2618
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:09,760
that we can't continue

2619
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:12,400
to be let be vacant and also i

2620
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:14,320
really appreciate the applicant's

2621
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:17,920
efforts to

2622
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:20,960
promote retail diversity but also

2623
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:23,360
don't dismiss or downplay the point that

2624
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:25,440
i am supporting the approval of another

2625
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:28,960
wine tasting business

2626
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:30,719
um my hope and listening with the

2627
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,400
council members that now that we've

2628
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:34,159
completed a general plan

2629
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,320
and that we're working on updates to the

2630
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:39,280
zoning and design documents

2631
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,239
that the town council will um will now

2632
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,280
consider

2633
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:45,199
um and discuss i'm investing some time

2634
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:48,400
and talent and treasure

2635
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:49,440
to work with residents businesses the

2636
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:52,000
chamber

2637
01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:53,360
to to really investigate future

2638
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,520
opportunities

2639
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,960
for economic development and retail

2640
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:00,080
diversity

2641
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,040
um it was reading today that this uh it

2642
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,199
as the city of

2643
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,239
napa's economic development division

2644
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:07,360
describes it

2645
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:10,159
it's community-driven solutions for

2646
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,679
town-wide prosperity and improved

2647
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:14,400
quality of life

2648
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:15,360
so i support this application it's

2649
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,880
important

2650
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,639
as we our business comes back and

2651
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,440
visitors come back it's important that

2652
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:22,880
this be a

2653
01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:25,199
an active vital uh part of our our

2654
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:27,040
our commercial core and like i said i

2655
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:29,920
want to thank the applicants

2656
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,239
um and so what i would just like to do

2657
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,719
is

2658
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:33,760
is to review at some point uh some of

2659
01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:37,119
these conditions

2660
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:40,560
so that we can uh uh maybe address

2661
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:42,239
issues of garbage or and whether

2662
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:45,440
or not as a part of the parking

2663
01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:48,960
management program we should

2664
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:52,000
consider inclusion of a condition that

2665
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,840
off street parking requirements may be a

2666
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,280
requirement

2667
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:58,320
but i also want to say i really

2668
01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:00,320
appreciate the mayor's

2669
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,440
your perspective in terms of the seating

2670
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:05,840
in the back

2671
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:08,880
and the use permit and also uh using

2672
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:11,440
as as council member dorenbecker said

2673
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,040
allowing the economic recovery program

2674
01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:16,400
to really test that space

2675
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:18,400
to possibly approve this project uh

2676
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,560
without that seating in the courtyard

2677
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:24,320
but to allow it through the

2678
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:27,280
economic recovery program to test its

2679
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,400
viability there and its impact on this

2680
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,600
on the jcb

2681
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,880
site so um

2682
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,719
i really don't have any other comments

2683
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,920
more other than look forward to just

2684
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:38,800
some

2685
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,920
dialing in the conditions thank you

2686
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,159
thank you and

2687
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,000
i now see uh the vice mayor is holding

2688
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:45,440
out on raising your hand

2689
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,280
you didn't have a choice i was gonna be

2690
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:50,000
calling on you as you know so

2691
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,040
vice mayor go ahead yes i went ahead and

2692
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:55,600
enlisted

2693
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:58,080
um so uh

2694
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,800
i really have gone round and round on

2695
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,320
this

2696
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:04,560
um and tonight has been very helpful for

2697
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:08,560
all concerns so thank you

2698
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:11,760
um you know i

2699
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:13,280
to council member mueller's point yes my

2700
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,119
first reaction was

2701
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,560
not another tasting room doesn't matter

2702
01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:20,000
how much i like cornerstone

2703
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:23,840
and i do it's another chasing work

2704
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:27,199
um but i now think

2705
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:29,920
this is an opportunity this

2706
01:40:27,199 --> 01:40:30,960
is an opportunity to do something

2707
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:34,639
different

2708
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:37,920
we are going to have almost 50

2709
01:40:34,639 --> 01:40:39,760
retail in a tasting room by the time you

2710
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:42,719
add everything up

2711
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:44,159
we are going to have a known quantity in

2712
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:47,760
the tasting room

2713
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:48,320
of someone who we know their business

2714
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,360
model

2715
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:52,960
we know how what they are like as our

2716
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:56,239
community neighbors

2717
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:59,199
so i see this as an opportunity not for

2718
01:40:56,239 --> 01:41:02,639
classic diversity but for diversity

2719
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:03,600
within right or wrong what makes our

2720
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:06,639
economic

2721
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:08,719
base work now i

2722
01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:11,199
am not going to sit here and say yes i'm

2723
01:41:08,719 --> 01:41:12,080
for 16 outdoor seeds yes i'm for this

2724
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:14,000
and that

2725
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,920
i would like to put a number of

2726
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:18,080
conditions and i

2727
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,920
have gone ahead and made a list all of

2728
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:22,800
which we have discussed tonight

2729
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,840
but i would like to say yes conditioned

2730
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,880
on

2731
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:30,560
um we have a three or six

2732
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:32,159
i'm open uh month to replace the retail

2733
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:35,280
since it is such a significant

2734
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:38,480
part we as the mayor said

2735
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:41,280
we codify that this will be

2736
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:43,360
uh additional retail than our usual and

2737
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:46,320
uh you know i'm not tied to 38

2738
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,520
if it's 35 if it's 40 whatever just to

2739
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,960
say more

2740
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:53,600
um the outdoor seating i cannot

2741
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,719
agree on at this time because of the

2742
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:58,080
parking issues

2743
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:59,199
but i certainly can agree that um

2744
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,719
and i don't think we have to put it in

2745
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:01,679
the condition of approval i think you

2746
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:04,400
all get opened up

2747
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:04,880
and economic recovery program is in

2748
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:08,000
effect

2749
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:11,199
and you guys work with staff uh to

2750
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,880
figure out what works in that back patio

2751
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:14,400
area and that'll get us through the

2752
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:18,159
first year so that we can

2753
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,880
assess uh yes a condition that we you go

2754
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:20,639
into the

2755
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,480
employee parking management plan and the

2756
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:26,239
certified payroll

2757
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:29,440
um i would like to

2758
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:32,000
somehow get a commitment that the four

2759
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:34,000
seats indoors in the reception area

2760
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:36,159
are not used for tasting because we

2761
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,960
already are one down on a parking space

2762
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:39,199
so whether that

2763
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,400
is written or a commitment from you guys

2764
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:43,040
i'm okay

2765
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:45,280
uh i would like to have a condition that

2766
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,679
the separate entrance for the

2767
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:49,760
enhanced retail remains because i think

2768
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:51,440
that's very important to our streetscape

2769
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:54,960
and diversity

2770
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:56,639
um the garbage i get that

2771
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,560
there's a lot of trash in that little

2772
01:42:56,639 --> 01:43:00,560
enclosure so it may be

2773
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:03,440
and i would leave that to staff and the

2774
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:07,360
applicant to figure out how to make the

2775
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:10,159
waste disposal work um

2776
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,040
the sales tax that the mayor spoke about

2777
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:13,360
uh

2778
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,480
arena would need a yachtville business

2779
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:19,280
license and

2780
01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:22,320
uh however the sales tax would work um

2781
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:24,880
and i i think that's it i mean i

2782
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:26,320
i don't see those as overly draconian

2783
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:29,360
you all may disagree

2784
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:31,840
council or applicant but um

2785
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:33,520
i think it gives us as a town a chance

2786
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:36,400
to try something new

2787
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,520
it gives our applicant as something new

2788
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,880
i went on tina

2789
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:43,360
stephen's website fully expecting to see

2790
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,560
nothing that i could or would ever

2791
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:47,760
afford to buy

2792
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:50,880
i was proven wrong so

2793
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:54,239
i do think there is a chance

2794
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:56,639
that this opportunity might actually

2795
01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:57,920
be one of our elusive local serving

2796
01:43:56,639 --> 01:44:01,119
businesses

2797
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:03,440
um so that's kind of where i am

2798
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:03,440
thank you

2799
01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:08,080
thank you uh very much vice mayor uh and

2800
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:10,719
i will just

2801
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:12,960
add i'll try not to repeat too too much

2802
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:14,960
i basically agree with

2803
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,480
everything vice mayor dorman was just

2804
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:19,679
presenting

2805
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:22,719
i think what we can say is if they

2806
01:44:19,679 --> 01:44:24,719
and i apologize now sandra

2807
01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:25,679
and michelle for for trying to get this

2808
01:44:24,719 --> 01:44:26,639
because it's going to be a little

2809
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:30,880
scattered

2810
01:44:26,639 --> 01:44:32,800
but if it's 38 retail right now

2811
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,560
i i think the vice mayor brought up a

2812
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:37,360
really good point about

2813
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,000
if we are looking at a change of use

2814
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,960
from a

2815
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:43,199
traditional retail to predominantly wine

2816
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:46,000
tasting with a retail component

2817
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:47,920
that i like the idea in this case

2818
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:50,800
requiring that 38

2819
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:53,840
that's already being proposed i don't

2820
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:57,360
feel the need to go higher than that but

2821
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:59,520
it's already generously above our 25

2822
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:01,280
minimum requirement and i do think that

2823
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:04,320
that speaks to

2824
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:07,199
our desire to have

2825
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,080
more than a mono culture of business

2826
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:10,880
activity

2827
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:12,880
you add in the uh art component which we

2828
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:15,040
have always been

2829
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:17,199
supportive of as a secondary retail you

2830
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:19,040
actually have three retail experiences

2831
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:20,800
in one

2832
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,800
and i'll just very quickly i want to

2833
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,000
address councilmember moeller

2834
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,080
wanting to see something new and

2835
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:27,440
different what i didn't like to see

2836
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,800
that's new and different

2837
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:33,440
is a for lease sign out in front of

2838
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:34,239
one of our our most visible properties

2839
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:37,280
for

2840
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:38,560
a few months that was basically begging

2841
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,760
for tenants

2842
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,960
and it is the most unsightly thing that

2843
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:45,440
i

2844
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,119
see in this town unfortunately we still

2845
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:48,639
have a couple locations

2846
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:50,880
a restaurant and a couple other

2847
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:53,440
locations that are still vacant

2848
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,320
partly because of the pandemic totally

2849
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:56,080
understand that

2850
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:58,320
but not all we have a restaurant that's

2851
01:45:56,080 --> 01:46:02,080
been closed for three years

2852
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:05,679
and we're still waiting and so to

2853
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,239
turn away a business not only that has a

2854
01:46:05,679 --> 01:46:08,960
great

2855
01:46:06,239 --> 01:46:09,760
track record in the outfield quality

2856
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:13,360
people

2857
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:16,560
quality product adding a new

2858
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,360
two new uh one known and one not yet

2859
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,920
known

2860
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,760
retail partners in this space i think

2861
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,800
makes it even more appropriate for young

2862
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,280
phil

2863
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,560
so you know we've heard over the years

2864
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,239
periodically

2865
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,760
do we have enough do we have too many do

2866
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:30,719
we have just the right number of tasting

2867
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,239
rooms

2868
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:34,239
the conversation used to be the same

2869
01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:36,320
about art galleries it used to be the

2870
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:39,679
same about antique shops

2871
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:41,440
the world evolves youngville has been

2872
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:42,719
incredibly successful because of our

2873
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:46,800
willingness to evolve

2874
01:46:42,719 --> 01:46:50,080
and be adaptive to market conditions

2875
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:54,560
we have embraced different ideas

2876
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:58,239
and so until other ideas come forward

2877
01:46:54,560 --> 01:47:01,679
i will absolutely welcome a proven

2878
01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:03,440
community partner that has really

2879
01:47:01,679 --> 01:47:05,440
done everything the way we would want

2880
01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:07,760
them to do it in the past

2881
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:09,600
and i anticipate the same going forward

2882
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,760
so

2883
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:14,400
there are a couple variables that the

2884
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:17,679
vice mayor left out there i think that

2885
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:21,040
to be reasonable as we come out of

2886
01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:24,639
a year plus global pandemic

2887
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:26,719
that we should be relatively lenient

2888
01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:28,639
on the length of time it would take to

2889
01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:30,719
replace a retail partner

2890
01:47:28,639 --> 01:47:32,320
if and here we are already we've we

2891
01:47:30,719 --> 01:47:33,600
haven't even met our new partner yet

2892
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,400
we're talking about what happens if she

2893
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,440
leaves

2894
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:40,560
but um we again don't want

2895
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:41,040
vacancies i would say ideally i would

2896
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:44,239
say

2897
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,119
six months is a reasonable time to

2898
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:48,000
expect

2899
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:49,119
no more than certainly not waiting and i

2900
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,840
don't think

2901
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:54,560
cornerstone or the owners of the

2902
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:57,920
property would be looking to

2903
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:59,600
have vacancy any longer than absolutely

2904
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:02,080
necessary but just realizing

2905
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,520
that we're entering a new business

2906
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,880
recovery phase that we've never dealt

2907
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,679
with and it might take a little bit of

2908
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,400
time

2909
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:10,560
to find the right fit maybe it wouldn't

2910
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:13,199
but we would give that flexibility

2911
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:15,280
like i said about the enhanced

2912
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:18,400
percentage of retail i'd like to

2913
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:21,760
list that in there as no lower than

2914
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:24,560
um and we might see that the 25

2915
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:25,840
that we've been doing uh it might be

2916
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,960
time to evolve that

2917
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:32,080
over time not talking about it here but

2918
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:34,639
because of the the

2919
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,679
presentation that this new application

2920
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:40,000
presents us we might

2921
01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:43,920
want to look at that i also would defer

2922
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:48,400
not even defer i would not support the

2923
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:51,840
16 outdoor seats as part of the

2924
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:53,840
primary use permit i anticipate there

2925
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:57,119
are going to be some challenges

2926
01:48:53,840 --> 01:49:00,159
with the additional 16 seats

2927
01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:02,719
maybe even with abc laws but

2928
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:03,679
as we get back hopefully soon to full

2929
01:49:02,719 --> 01:49:07,760
capacity

2930
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:11,440
in our businesses that might be too much

2931
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:14,159
for the parking lot in the space so

2932
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:14,719
i agree with councilmember knight i

2933
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:17,599
would

2934
01:49:14,719 --> 01:49:18,560
support all the capacity as presented

2935
01:49:17,599 --> 01:49:21,679
indoors

2936
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:24,080
and then you should be ready to

2937
01:49:21,679 --> 01:49:25,440
present an application for our economic

2938
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,800
recovery program

2939
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:30,639
where you could have additional outdoor

2940
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:33,920
seating maybe not 16

2941
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:35,040
but some number that would also support

2942
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,040
your

2943
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:38,400
successful launching during this

2944
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:41,040
recovery period

2945
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:42,080
and what we've been saying is we are

2946
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,280
going to look

2947
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,960
at the economic recovery modifications

2948
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,280
and some of them may become permanent

2949
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,960
because they just work so well for our

2950
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:53,760
community and for our businesses and for

2951
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:56,320
our visitors and residents so

2952
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:58,400
that would be the i would say maybe the

2953
01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,000
the good and the bad on the 16 seats is

2954
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,719
i'm not going to support that now but i

2955
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,080
support it for the

2956
01:50:02,719 --> 01:50:09,280
long term temporary economic recovery

2957
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:12,639
uh program if you want to pursue that

2958
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:14,400
i also encourage staff to

2959
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:16,400
or actually our applicant to work very

2960
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,800
closely with staff when you are working

2961
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:23,520
with a food partner

2962
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:25,520
we are sensitive to not

2963
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,199
overdoing the food pairings i'll just

2964
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:29,360
say uh we are

2965
01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:30,480
you know protective of our restaurants

2966
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,960
and the businesses

2967
01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:33,520
are they're also recovering from a year

2968
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:38,080
of

2969
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:39,840
lost revenue and lost employees etc so

2970
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,599
i appreciate and respect the fact that

2971
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,960
you you know that and

2972
01:50:41,599 --> 01:50:45,520
it sounds to me like you're going to

2973
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,920
honor that you have the proper place and

2974
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:49,199
the

2975
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:50,800
in perspective so just working with

2976
01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:52,480
our staff to find the right partner

2977
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,560
hopefully it's right here in town

2978
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:55,520
that that would really be a great thing

2979
01:50:54,560 --> 01:51:00,080
to see

2980
01:50:55,520 --> 01:51:03,119
so i can absolutely support this

2981
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:06,000
again it isn't something that i'm

2982
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:07,599
fully basing my decision on but as was

2983
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:10,880
mentioned previously

2984
01:51:07,599 --> 01:51:14,080
we know you to be good really good

2985
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,360
partners not only business people but

2986
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,560
partners in our community

2987
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:20,800
and your generosity does matter

2988
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:22,400
we don't have to learn uh what your

2989
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:23,599
intentions are i think that we can count

2990
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,719
on your history

2991
01:51:23,599 --> 01:51:29,599
with us so um with that i you can

2992
01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:30,480
uh anticipate my support i i would

2993
01:51:29,599 --> 01:51:32,719
suggest uh

2994
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:34,080
if the vice mayor will thank you for

2995
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:37,520
your thorough uh

2996
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:40,239
and not surprised uh list of conditions

2997
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,280
um i would recommend six months i'm

2998
01:51:40,239 --> 01:51:42,560
interested to hear what the council

2999
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:46,960
would say about that

3000
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:50,719
i would i would set the 38 retail as a

3001
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:53,840
baseline um and then um

3002
01:51:50,719 --> 01:51:54,639
hold off on the outdoor seating uh for

3003
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:58,560
now

3004
01:51:54,639 --> 01:52:01,119
so um i'll i'll counsel overnight

3005
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,960
thank you mayor um i support your

3006
01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:05,040
summary of the conditions

3007
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:07,199
just a point of clarification with the

3008
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:08,639
planner about

3009
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:10,560
just my interest in the historic

3010
01:52:08,639 --> 01:52:12,960
building and signage that the

3011
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,000
current signage or sign ordinance

3012
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,480
protects

3013
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,679
uh the character and that the sign the

3014
01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:21,360
signs that will be

3015
01:52:17,679 --> 01:52:24,320
um installed will will not be

3016
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,800
contemporary or modern but will meet the

3017
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,840
the

3018
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,840
the beauty of the building

3019
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:35,040
and there were some examples in the the

3020
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:36,880
narrative i believe but sandra if you

3021
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:39,599
could address that specifically

3022
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:41,599
yours i think your sound is off uh

3023
01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:45,840
sandra

3024
01:52:41,599 --> 01:52:45,840
yeah sandra you're still muted

3025
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:51,440
i talked so long you're muted

3026
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:53,679
um so we haven't seen the final

3027
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:54,560
specifications in the applicant packet

3028
01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:56,560
but they show

3029
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:58,719
um the general look they're going for in

3030
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:01,679
their hand-painted wood signs

3031
01:52:58,719 --> 01:53:02,320
they will not have lighting and all

3032
01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:05,119
three of them

3033
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,960
of the businesses will share a similar

3034
01:53:05,119 --> 01:53:08,400
aesthetic in terms of sign background

3035
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,280
color although they'll have their own

3036
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,920
logos

3037
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:13,760
so i think what we've seen presented is

3038
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,199
consistent with a historic building

3039
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,920
of course these are all elements that

3040
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:19,280
can be removed from the building as well

3041
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:21,840
but most importantly it won't have that

3042
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,960
interior that backlighting or other

3043
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,440
lighting

3044
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,560
thank you and i support lighting it just

3045
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:28,480
i don't um

3046
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,000
you know there's historic ways of

3047
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:31,520
lighting signs that

3048
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,520
i think meet the character the building

3049
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,800
i know this applicant and

3050
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:39,920
um recognizes that i appreciate their

3051
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:42,080
uh return to yacht yachtville so thank

3052
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:44,880
you very much

3053
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:47,199
sandra follow up question on that um we

3054
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:49,599
have three businesses but two of them

3055
01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:50,400
are under the same use permit and we

3056
01:53:49,599 --> 01:53:52,159
have a certain

3057
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:55,119
total square footage of signage for the

3058
01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:57,040
entire building how does that

3059
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:58,159
i think it's a fairly unique situation

3060
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,239
we have the upstairs

3061
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:01,840
independent business with a certain

3062
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:04,000
square footage for that use how does

3063
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:06,239
that all work together

3064
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,000
well they're all subject to a master

3065
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:10,000
sign plan and the purpose of that is to

3066
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:11,440
fairly apportion the signage between the

3067
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,840
three businesses

3068
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:16,239
um when you consider the lineal square

3069
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:18,719
footage i think it amounts to about 16

3070
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:20,480
or 16 and a half square feet per sign i

3071
01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:23,599
think they should all be the same size

3072
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:27,199
over the three different entries to give

3073
01:54:23,599 --> 01:54:28,239
really equal notice to the to customers

3074
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:30,239
and i believe that's how it was

3075
01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:33,280
presented in the narrative as well

3076
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:35,920
okay thank you so

3077
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,920
we have we don't have a motion i don't

3078
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:39,199
see any further hands but i will go back

3079
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:42,719
to the vice mayor

3080
01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:45,119
who had i think the most structured

3081
01:54:42,719 --> 01:54:46,639
uh conditions that if you'd like to

3082
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:50,000
present a motion

3083
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:54,159
yes uh thank you i

3084
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:58,119
move approval of the longest amendment

3085
01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:59,679
um i move approval of resolution number

3086
01:54:58,119 --> 01:55:01,760
21-4053

3087
01:54:59,679 --> 01:55:04,320
approving a use permit for cornerstone

3088
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:07,199
sellers to conduct a wine tasting room

3089
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,159
with tina stevens secondary retail at

3090
01:55:07,199 --> 01:55:10,480
6505

3091
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:12,719
washington street assessor's parcel

3092
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:12,719
number

3093
01:55:14,599 --> 01:55:19,360
036-081-011

3094
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:21,280
with the following revisions as

3095
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:25,199
discussed by council tonight

3096
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:29,040
uh minimum 38 retail

3097
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:32,239
six mon maximum six months to replace

3098
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:37,440
uh the retail should

3099
01:55:32,239 --> 01:55:42,320
that sub lease go away

3100
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:45,760
no outdoor seating as requested

3101
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,480
20 seats inside employee parking

3102
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:51,520
management

3103
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:53,760
program uh entry and certified payroll

3104
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,880
arena galleries will have a business

3105
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,320
license and a

3106
01:55:54,880 --> 01:56:01,520
sales tech sales tax hub

3107
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:03,360
for use in yachtville a

3108
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:05,119
continuation of a separate retail

3109
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:08,320
entrance

3110
01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:10,880
uh work with staff to resolve any waste

3111
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:12,840
disposal issues

3112
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,080
and i don't think this has to be in

3113
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:16,320
there

3114
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,599
nor probably shouldn't the economic

3115
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,760
recovery program

3116
01:56:17,599 --> 01:56:21,440
uh unless you think we need something

3117
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:22,639
that says even though their new business

3118
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,239
they can apply so

3119
01:56:22,639 --> 01:56:26,000
if that that needs to go in there that

3120
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:29,119
can go in there and

3121
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:32,560
um no arena employees on site

3122
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:35,360
and i think that covers everything

3123
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:37,040
thank you for that uh clear summary and

3124
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,599
i believe and maybe this is a gary

3125
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,639
question

3126
01:56:37,599 --> 01:56:41,440
i think we keep the economic recovery

3127
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:43,119
program

3128
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:45,199
piece completely separate is that

3129
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:47,360
appropriate

3130
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:50,080
yes and i think that program stands

3131
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:56,000
alone regardless of what's done today

3132
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:57,840
great thank you so um

3133
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:59,920
you i just want to double check uh we

3134
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,599
have a motion by vice mayor dorman

3135
01:56:59,920 --> 01:57:04,719
michelle were you clear on all those

3136
01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:06,239
uh conditions second by uh council

3137
01:57:04,719 --> 01:57:09,599
member dorne becker

3138
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:12,639
so as amended i was gonna say

3139
01:57:09,599 --> 01:57:14,960
okay thank you yeah

3140
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:15,920
and i will ask for a roll call vote

3141
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:19,040
please michelle

3142
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:19,520
thank you vice mayor dorman yes council

3143
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:23,520
member

3144
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:27,520
doran becker yes council member knight

3145
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:31,280
yes councilmember moeller no

3146
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:34,480
mayor dunbar yes thank you

3147
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:36,800
so that does pass congratulations to

3148
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,639
the entire cornerstone team and welcome

3149
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:42,080
back to youngville

3150
01:57:38,639 --> 01:57:45,119
we're so excited thank you so much

3151
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:46,960
thank you thank you

3152
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:49,760
and you're welcome but not obligated to

3153
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:53,840
watch the rest of our meeting

3154
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:53,840
i don't know let me check the agenda

3155
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:58,000
thank you thank you very much and we are

3156
01:57:57,360 --> 01:58:01,119
going to

3157
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:03,920
uh jump right into our three

3158
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:04,639
administrative regular items and the

3159
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:08,159
first one

3160
01:58:04,639 --> 01:58:10,639
is going to be phase 2

3161
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:14,639
water emergency regulations consider

3162
01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:17,760
adoption of resolution number 21-4054

3163
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:20,880
approving the implementation of modified

3164
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:22,800
modified phase ii water emergency

3165
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,400
regulations i believe this is going to

3166
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,119
be our public works director joe

3167
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,119
taglibashi

3168
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:33,599
we we cannot hear you yet joe

3169
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,920
thank you very much i was jumping the

3170
01:58:33,599 --> 01:58:37,840
gun a little bit thank you mayor

3171
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,679
members of the council uh tonight we

3172
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,920
have for your consideration

3173
01:58:39,679 --> 01:58:43,840
uh the resolution to approve uh the

3174
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,280
implementation of a modified phase two

3175
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:48,320
water emergency

3176
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:50,239
regulation uh

3177
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:52,159
as you all are aware from our last

3178
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:55,520
presentation in

3179
01:58:52,159 --> 01:58:58,719
early april march of this year

3180
01:58:55,520 --> 01:59:01,760
the veterans home notified us of a 20

3181
01:58:58,719 --> 01:59:02,560
water reduction uh per the agreement

3182
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:06,080
that we have

3183
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:06,880
with them uh in 2005. so that would

3184
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:10,239
result in an

3185
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:13,119
8 400 acre foot delivery

3186
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:14,800
uh as opposed to the 500 acre feet that

3187
01:59:13,119 --> 01:59:17,840
is in the contracted amount

3188
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:20,719
on a normal year uh let's go to the

3189
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,719
slide deck please

3190
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:31,599
so uh our currently we're going to bring

3191
01:59:28,639 --> 01:59:33,440
a next slide please uh

3192
01:59:31,599 --> 01:59:34,719
this is a little bit of history to bring

3193
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,560
us all up to speed

3194
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:38,560
uh we're currently in our third year of

3195
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:40,960
drought in the last

3196
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:43,040
nine years seven have been drought or

3197
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:45,440
very close to drought conditions

3198
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:46,320
uh and two years have been very close to

3199
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:49,280
normal

3200
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:50,239
uh in the current year the 11th driest

3201
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,599
on record

3202
01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:55,520
uh 2019 was the eighth so we've had some

3203
01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:59,840
pretty dry years

3204
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,840
and as a result next slide please

3205
02:00:01,199 --> 02:00:05,679
as a result as as of march 26 the napa

3206
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,199
county region

3207
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:09,280
and this hasn't changed we did have a

3208
02:00:07,199 --> 02:00:10,000
little bit of rain but it hasn't changed

3209
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:12,960
much we're

3210
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,840
in the 30 to 45 percent of average uh

3211
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,840
range

3212
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:18,320
sierra snowpack is a little bit better

3213
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:21,199
than that at about 61

3214
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,679
the real challenge for all of us in the

3215
02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,920
state

3216
02:00:21,679 --> 02:00:25,520
is uh the basins and groundwater have

3217
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:27,679
been filling the gap

3218
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:30,800
as a result they are now at historically

3219
02:00:27,679 --> 02:00:33,840
low levels of 55 to 68 percent

3220
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:37,119
uh in in a normal year rector fills it

3221
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,520
very quickly and uh we're lucky to have

3222
02:00:37,119 --> 02:00:41,280
that

3223
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,920
as a source of water we were at about 12

3224
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:44,159
inches

3225
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:46,239
this year so normal year for us is

3226
02:00:44,159 --> 02:00:48,560
somewhere just north of 30 so

3227
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:51,440
we're less than 50 percent of normal

3228
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,440
next slide please

3229
02:00:51,679 --> 02:00:57,040
uh so in the phase one requirements

3230
02:00:55,599 --> 02:00:59,760
which would be included in what we're

3231
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:02,800
proposing tonight these are voluntary

3232
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,760
prohibitions so uh potable water and

3233
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,320
this applies to

3234
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:07,199
all three categories everyone our

3235
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,840
businesses

3236
02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:11,679
and of course us as a as a water

3237
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,920
distribution uh

3238
02:01:11,679 --> 02:01:15,760
agency uh potable water to wash

3239
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:16,880
sidewalks and driveways would be

3240
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:20,000
prohibited

3241
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:22,800
uh we would uh

3242
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:24,560
help remind people that uh irrigate

3243
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:27,679
runoff from irrigation

3244
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:29,360
uh is not allowed hoses with no shut off

3245
02:01:27,679 --> 02:01:33,520
nozzles when they're watching cars

3246
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:36,400
is not allowed or would be uh

3247
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:38,159
voluntary use for those items potable

3248
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:38,880
water and decorative water features that

3249
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:42,719
do not

3250
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:45,440
recirculate water would be discouraged

3251
02:01:42,719 --> 02:01:48,000
outdoor irrigation during and 48 hours

3252
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:50,239
following measurable precipitation

3253
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:52,239
would be discouraged and we define

3254
02:01:50,239 --> 02:01:52,480
measurable precipitation as a quarter of

3255
02:01:52,239 --> 02:01:56,400
an

3256
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:56,400
inch or more next slide please

3257
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:04,560
now we're getting into uh phase two so

3258
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:05,679
the phase one measures that we just

3259
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:08,159
discussed would be

3260
02:02:05,679 --> 02:02:09,599
uh encouraged by the town and these

3261
02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:12,880
prohibitions would be

3262
02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:13,599
uh mandated uh with your approval this

3263
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,239
evening

3264
02:02:13,599 --> 02:02:18,239
so outdoor irrigation with potable water

3265
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:21,760
delivered by the town of yonville a

3266
02:02:18,239 --> 02:02:24,320
distribution system uh would be

3267
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,920
even an odd addresses so odd addresses

3268
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:28,320
would water on thursday

3269
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:29,840
and friday and even addresses with water

3270
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:32,400
on monday and thursday

3271
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:33,599
i would like to remind the council and

3272
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:36,080
those

3273
02:02:33,599 --> 02:02:36,960
folks who are watching uh out on our

3274
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:39,199
network

3275
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:41,440
that this is very similar in fact

3276
02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:42,639
identical to what we did in 2015 and

3277
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:44,239
2016

3278
02:02:42,639 --> 02:02:46,800
as a part of the governor's drought

3279
02:02:44,239 --> 02:02:49,520
declaration it resulted in a 28

3280
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,000
a little bit better than a 28 savings

3281
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:53,040
from

3282
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:55,040
uh the years that they were using as our

3283
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,840
benchmark so we would expect similar

3284
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:58,719
results

3285
02:02:55,840 --> 02:03:00,400
using these similar measures uh no

3286
02:02:58,719 --> 02:03:02,400
outdoor irrigation would be allowed on

3287
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:04,320
wednesdays saturdays or sundays with

3288
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:07,520
potable water delivered from the town's

3289
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:10,159
water distribution system no irrigation

3290
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:12,080
uh allowed between 10 a.m and 6 p.m

3291
02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:14,560
which is the hottest part of the day

3292
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,840
and it just if you think about what

3293
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:19,119
makes sense and and

3294
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:22,000
trying to just conserve water uh in the

3295
02:03:19,119 --> 02:03:23,440
in the smartest and most logical ways uh

3296
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:25,199
this measure makes sense because

3297
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:27,599
watering in the heat of the day

3298
02:03:25,199 --> 02:03:28,800
uh just causes way too much evaporation

3299
02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:30,000
you're just not getting the water where

3300
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,920
it needs to go so

3301
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,000
basically what we're asking folks to do

3302
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:36,960
is water in the evening hours

3303
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:37,599
between 6 p.m and 10 a.m in the morning

3304
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,639
and

3305
02:03:37,599 --> 02:03:41,440
that seemed to work okay for the town's

3306
02:03:40,639 --> 02:03:45,360
landscaping

3307
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:47,199
we did okay with that uh once we got the

3308
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,800
irrigation schedule figured out it's

3309
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:51,599
watering a little

3310
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:53,040
uh less long and a little more

3311
02:03:51,599 --> 02:03:55,280
regularity so you do

3312
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:57,119
several cycles at a shorter time which

3313
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:57,440
allows the water to soak in and not run

3314
02:03:57,119 --> 02:04:00,320
off

3315
02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,320
next slide please

3316
02:04:02,639 --> 02:04:05,679
this is still continued for everyone so

3317
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,239
again

3318
02:04:05,679 --> 02:04:10,000
irrigation would not be permitted during

3319
02:04:08,239 --> 02:04:11,520
the 48 hours after a measurable

3320
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:13,760
rainfall which would be the quarter inch

3321
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:16,400
and 24 hours as opposed to a voluntary

3322
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:17,440
uh prohibition no watering of park

3323
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:18,880
medians

3324
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,880
would be allowed without a drip

3325
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,560
irrigation system so we do have a few

3326
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:24,960
areas

3327
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:26,880
that have turf in some of the park trips

3328
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,719
although the majority of our park

3329
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:30,239
area park median areas in our

3330
02:04:28,719 --> 02:04:31,920
neighborhoods have been converted to a

3331
02:04:30,239 --> 02:04:34,159
drought-tolerant landscape with

3332
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:36,480
drip irrigation or a micro irrigation

3333
02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:36,480
system

3334
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:40,159
our plan as a part of this program would

3335
02:04:38,639 --> 02:04:42,239
be

3336
02:04:40,159 --> 02:04:44,400
to do some survey of the neighborhoods

3337
02:04:42,239 --> 02:04:46,480
uh identify some of the

3338
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:48,320
homes and and businesses that may not

3339
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:50,639
have participated in the last round of

3340
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:52,960
our uh

3341
02:04:50,639 --> 02:04:53,760
subsidy and incentive program to change

3342
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:56,239
from

3343
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:58,159
our cash for gas program to change from

3344
02:04:56,239 --> 02:05:00,639
turf to a drop tolerant landscape

3345
02:04:58,159 --> 02:05:02,320
then we would uh target those uh

3346
02:05:00,639 --> 02:05:04,480
addresses and send them

3347
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:05,920
uh some information on what kind of

3348
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:07,199
programs could be available to them to

3349
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:10,239
help

3350
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:10,239
incentivize them to

3351
02:05:11,199 --> 02:05:17,520
change from a turf park median and

3352
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:18,840
lawn to a more drought tolerant

3353
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:21,360
landscaping

3354
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:23,119
system in addition newly constructed

3355
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:24,079
homes would have to install drip or

3356
02:05:23,119 --> 02:05:25,840
micro spray

3357
02:05:24,079 --> 02:05:27,760
that's already part of our wheelo

3358
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:30,079
ordnance so

3359
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:31,760
most homes do that as a normal part of

3360
02:05:30,079 --> 02:05:33,679
business

3361
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,840
anyway it's just how californians are

3362
02:05:33,679 --> 02:05:39,199
used to doing landscaping

3363
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:42,079
in our uh new normal and no filling of

3364
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:44,880
pools with town-supplied domestic water

3365
02:05:42,079 --> 02:05:46,639
most people who have pools new pools

3366
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,440
have figured out that it's a much

3367
02:05:46,639 --> 02:05:50,639
less expensive uh process to get the

3368
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:53,920
water trucked in and

3369
02:05:50,639 --> 02:05:55,360
this would be in addition to the other

3370
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:58,159
measures that we have suggested

3371
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:58,159
next slide please

3372
02:06:00,079 --> 02:06:04,079
uh this next category is for restaurants

3373
02:06:02,719 --> 02:06:05,520
so the first category that we just

3374
02:06:04,079 --> 02:06:06,480
talked about would be for everyone now

3375
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,719
we're getting into

3376
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:10,000
uh the separate business entities that

3377
02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:12,400
we have here in town

3378
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:14,159
that would have additional steps uh that

3379
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:15,360
would be required so tap water could

3380
02:06:14,159 --> 02:06:17,920
only be

3381
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:19,920
provided to customers upon request

3382
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,480
scrape all dishes prior to rinsing which

3383
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:23,599
i'm sure

3384
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:26,000
they are doing already run full loads to

3385
02:06:23,599 --> 02:06:29,679
the dishwasher again i'm i'm

3386
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:32,000
certain that most restaurants and

3387
02:06:29,679 --> 02:06:33,280
places that you can eat here in town do

3388
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,480
most of these things already

3389
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:39,119
and wash with full loads of linens next

3390
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:39,119
slide please

3391
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:45,360
hotels and spas would be required to

3392
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:47,520
clearly and prominently display a notice

3393
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:50,320
of an option to reuse towels and linens

3394
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:52,079
with changes only upon guest requests

3395
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:54,320
and no non-commercial washing

3396
02:06:52,079 --> 02:06:56,079
of privately owned vehicles or equipment

3397
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:58,159
except from a bucket

3398
02:06:56,079 --> 02:07:02,079
and or a hose equipped with a shut off

3399
02:06:58,159 --> 02:07:02,079
nozzle uh next slide please

3400
02:07:03,679 --> 02:07:10,560
so that uh completes the majority of

3401
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:13,520
the the meat of this uh new program and

3402
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:17,760
how we would like to conserve water

3403
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:17,760
staff is also looking at uh

3404
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:23,840
what would be the next steps if

3405
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:25,440
we aren't able to conserve the kinds of

3406
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:27,119
if this conservation

3407
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:28,880
program doesn't work as it did the last

3408
02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:31,040
time around what

3409
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:32,719
other incentives or tools could we have

3410
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:34,560
available

3411
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:37,599
should we need them and so we will look

3412
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:39,040
at water usage and billing policies

3413
02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:40,800
some of our billing policies are a

3414
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:42,960
little outdated i think

3415
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:44,800
we discussed it earlier today in i

3416
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:47,520
believe it was last updated

3417
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:49,520
in 1998 it's interesting to note that

3418
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:52,000
when i looked at

3419
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:53,199
these policies through the agencies uh

3420
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,960
calistoga is now

3421
02:07:53,199 --> 02:07:56,880
on the same program that we're proposing

3422
02:07:54,960 --> 02:08:00,239
this evening santolina

3423
02:07:56,880 --> 02:08:03,440
is was is on an even more uh

3424
02:08:00,239 --> 02:08:06,159
um conservative version of this policy

3425
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:08,000
they have implemented some uh additional

3426
02:08:06,159 --> 02:08:09,040
penalties for overusage

3427
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:11,199
they're trying to save in the

3428
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:14,480
neighborhood of 30 percent napa

3429
02:08:11,199 --> 02:08:16,480
is at a 15 savings but um

3430
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:17,520
the majority of these water policies

3431
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,840
that we're talking about

3432
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:20,960
phase one phase two phase three and

3433
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:23,760
phase four

3434
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:24,560
uh all look very similar in each town or

3435
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:27,520
city's

3436
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,000
municipal code so we're going to look at

3437
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,239
ours

3438
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,520
and and try to update it and make it

3439
02:08:30,239 --> 02:08:33,599
both easy for the

3440
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:35,520
customer and the resident to understand

3441
02:08:33,599 --> 02:08:37,760
and and also for our staff to be able to

3442
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:40,159
implement should it be needed

3443
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:42,159
the biggest part of this program for us

3444
02:08:40,159 --> 02:08:44,719
as we learned last time around

3445
02:08:42,159 --> 02:08:46,480
is to try to prepare a community so

3446
02:08:44,719 --> 02:08:48,239
we'll do some outreach and education

3447
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,040
that will include message boards letting

3448
02:08:48,239 --> 02:08:52,239
people know

3449
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:53,920
what day is watering even an odd

3450
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:56,639
we'll have some courtesy notices and

3451
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:58,239
some packages for people set up so that

3452
02:08:56,639 --> 02:09:01,599
when there are

3453
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:05,199
some irrigation uh challenges most

3454
02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:06,639
folks don't manage or maintain their own

3455
02:09:05,199 --> 02:09:08,159
irrigation system that's one of the

3456
02:09:06,639 --> 02:09:09,360
things we've learned over the years and

3457
02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:13,040
so we'd be

3458
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:15,840
talking to the homeowner and most likely

3459
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:18,239
directly contacting

3460
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,360
their landscaper to help them manage

3461
02:09:18,239 --> 02:09:20,719
their landscape

3462
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:23,040
and their irrigation controllers a

3463
02:09:20,719 --> 02:09:25,040
little better that's what we found

3464
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:26,320
is the most effective policy but it's

3465
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:29,280
really about education

3466
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:30,320
outreach and just helping remind people

3467
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:33,520
what we're trying to do

3468
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:37,199
and that's a continuous effort so

3469
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:40,560
next slide please with that i'm happy to

3470
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:40,560
answer any questions you may have

3471
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:45,520
joe thank you do we have yes we'll start

3472
02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:47,440
with

3473
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:50,239
council member knight and then council

3474
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:50,239
member doernbecher

3475
02:09:50,719 --> 02:09:54,719
thank you director taylabashi for a

3476
02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:57,840
thorough report

3477
02:09:54,719 --> 02:09:59,599
i support the resolution and

3478
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,119
i mean as we read more and more about

3479
02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:03,520
drought conditions it's

3480
02:10:01,119 --> 02:10:04,639
uh it's getting it's going to be very

3481
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:08,400
serious and so

3482
02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:10,639
um i would encourage the residents to

3483
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:13,199
read also the article in the back page

3484
02:10:10,639 --> 02:10:16,960
of last thursday's yachtville sun

3485
02:10:13,199 --> 02:10:20,159
it was a succinct report on our you know

3486
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:22,480
drought issues in yachtville but also a

3487
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:25,360
summary of the drought issues

3488
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:26,639
that the state of california is addre is

3489
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:30,000
dealing with and

3490
02:10:26,639 --> 02:10:32,719
we all need to tighten our belts and so

3491
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:35,440
thank you joe for your report thank you

3492
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:37,119
very much a council member

3493
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:40,239
thank you and i'll be reporting out on

3494
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:43,920
the napa county flood control

3495
02:10:40,239 --> 02:10:45,679
they did a water supply update today

3496
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:48,320
that will speak to that very thing

3497
02:10:45,679 --> 02:10:51,840
councilmember adorned becker

3498
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:55,119
thank you um and thank you for the

3499
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:56,880
presentation director talibashi i did

3500
02:10:55,119 --> 02:10:59,440
have a question about

3501
02:10:56,880 --> 02:11:02,159
if there is absolutely no water use

3502
02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:06,000
allowed on saturday and sunday

3503
02:11:02,159 --> 02:11:09,199
um is it possible instead to sort of

3504
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:10,079
stagger the you know two on and two off

3505
02:11:09,199 --> 02:11:14,000
so that

3506
02:11:10,079 --> 02:11:17,440
there's not really a you know a 48-hour

3507
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:21,840
uh lapse between when we can

3508
02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:21,840
apply some water in the garden

3509
02:11:22,639 --> 02:11:25,840
i mean that that is up to you all as a

3510
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:28,960
council uh

3511
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:33,360
i this was what we used in the last

3512
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:36,560
uh effort and it was very successful uh

3513
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,560
most folks uh

3514
02:11:37,119 --> 02:11:40,239
we're able to adjust their irrigation

3515
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:43,280
and and manage

3516
02:11:40,239 --> 02:11:47,119
it with very little loss or damage

3517
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:48,560
um but of course we're looking to try to

3518
02:11:47,119 --> 02:11:51,199
maximize that

3519
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:52,000
uh irrigation time because that's where

3520
02:11:51,199 --> 02:11:54,000
most of the water

3521
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,360
is being used so we're open to

3522
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:00,639
suggestions and

3523
02:11:55,360 --> 02:12:00,639
it can be modified for sure thank you

3524
02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:07,840
thank you i was just dealing with the

3525
02:12:05,599 --> 02:12:09,920
computer problem uh i don't see any

3526
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:11,599
other hands from council uh did we get

3527
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:14,639
any public

3528
02:12:11,599 --> 02:12:15,280
oh councilmember muller i just want to

3529
02:12:14,639 --> 02:12:18,320
make a

3530
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:21,920
uh general comment uh

3531
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:25,040
because we see that um saint helene

3532
02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:25,040
has got uh

3533
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:29,119
the biggest amount that they are trying

3534
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:32,079
to conserve

3535
02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:33,440
and uh also uh you know discussing

3536
02:12:32,079 --> 02:12:35,520
penalties

3537
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:37,440
i think i just wanted to mention that

3538
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:40,480
their situation is a little bit

3539
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:43,040
uh different than ours because they lost

3540
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:45,440
so much water during during the fighting

3541
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:47,760
of the fire so a lot of their

3542
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:49,599
reservoirs were you know used to scoop

3543
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:51,199
out a lot of water so

3544
02:12:49,599 --> 02:12:52,639
just to kind of put it in balance i

3545
02:12:51,199 --> 02:12:54,719
think you know it's uh

3546
02:12:52,639 --> 02:12:56,239
this is something we need it's great

3547
02:12:54,719 --> 02:12:58,880
that uh

3548
02:12:56,239 --> 02:13:00,480
you know we've heard from the veterans

3549
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:03,760
home how much they

3550
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:05,520
need to serve or need to conserve i

3551
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:07,360
just would love to know how much water

3552
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:10,159
is really in that

3553
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:11,679
in rector so uh i can kind of put in

3554
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:12,400
some perspective and how much soil is

3555
02:13:11,679 --> 02:13:14,639
down there but

3556
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:16,960
i i just wanted to mention that so uh

3557
02:13:14,639 --> 02:13:20,159
because you see you know napa is 15

3558
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:22,320
and uh santolina's

3559
02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:23,440
closer to 30 so i just wanted to provide

3560
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:25,679
that as a

3561
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:27,199
way to kind of put these numbers a

3562
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:28,800
little more in balance that

3563
02:13:27,199 --> 02:13:30,239
we're all trying to do the same thing

3564
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:32,159
but ours is

3565
02:13:30,239 --> 02:13:33,440
not quite as severe because of how much

3566
02:13:32,159 --> 02:13:36,159
water they lost

3567
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,119
uh using it for fighting the fires up

3568
02:13:36,159 --> 02:13:40,320
there last year

3569
02:13:37,119 --> 02:13:40,320
and with no rain

3570
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:45,440
and there yeah yeah go ahead yeah so i'd

3571
02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:47,520
just like to add

3572
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,560
for the benefit of the council this

3573
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:51,920
resolution is

3574
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:54,400
is labeled modified phase two for those

3575
02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:56,880
reading the sections of the emergency

3576
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:59,040
water regulations in the municipal code

3577
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:00,400
there are very similar phase 2

3578
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:02,880
regulations in there

3579
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:04,800
the town council has separate authority

3580
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:07,040
to adopt rules and regulations by

3581
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:09,360
resolution that govern use of water

3582
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:11,360
and the water system generally that's

3583
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:13,520
the authority to adopt the modified ones

3584
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:15,199
beyond what you see in phase two

3585
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:16,639
as joe mentioned that's what the council

3586
02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:17,599
did last time that's what the council is

3587
02:14:16,639 --> 02:14:18,800
doing again

3588
02:14:17,599 --> 02:14:20,159
but that's why there's slight

3589
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:23,199
differences between it and that's why

3590
02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:25,679
the council has the ability to do that

3591
02:14:23,199 --> 02:14:26,719
thank you to our town attorney for that

3592
02:14:25,679 --> 02:14:29,360
clarification

3593
02:14:26,719 --> 02:14:29,920
i was going to hold out for my uh flood

3594
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:31,599
control

3595
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:33,599
meeting but now it's come up twice so

3596
02:14:31,599 --> 02:14:37,040
i'll let you all in on it

3597
02:14:33,599 --> 02:14:40,760
uh rector reservoir is between 60

3598
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:43,199
and 65 capacity

3599
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:46,400
4535 acre feet

3600
02:14:43,199 --> 02:14:48,079
20 feet below full pond

3601
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:50,639
so for those of you that understand all

3602
02:14:48,079 --> 02:14:54,560
that that was the report from

3603
02:14:50,639 --> 02:14:58,280
the county earlier this afternoon

3604
02:14:54,560 --> 02:15:00,880
and just to compare lake berryessa uh

3605
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:03,920
7-0 capacity

3606
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,920
percent capacity

3607
02:15:04,480 --> 02:15:10,719
so vice mayor or

3608
02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:13,840
councilman muller did you have more yeah

3609
02:15:10,719 --> 02:15:17,199
so those numbers that's what i'm still

3610
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:20,400
trying to get at because uh

3611
02:15:17,199 --> 02:15:24,159
for you know a long time now i've

3612
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:26,560
never heard any reports that uh

3613
02:15:24,159 --> 02:15:27,360
rector that the amount of silt in the

3614
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:29,199
bottom

3615
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:31,119
is really being monitored you know

3616
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:32,239
there's a lot of sonar and stuff you can

3617
02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:35,760
use so

3618
02:15:32,239 --> 02:15:38,880
and i know that acre feet keeps re

3619
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:41,360
get gets reported but

3620
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:43,599
do we have any information is that just

3621
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:46,960
based on like a water level line

3622
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:48,880
or a true volumetric assessment of the

3623
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:51,360
acre feet

3624
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:52,159
i welcome you to contact the county

3625
02:15:51,360 --> 02:15:55,040
flood control

3626
02:15:52,159 --> 02:15:56,159
folks and unless joe has an exact answer

3627
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:58,880
to that

3628
02:15:56,159 --> 02:16:00,480
i i don't have an exact answer mayor but

3629
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:03,360
i i have been questioning

3630
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:04,480
uh the operators of the reservoir with

3631
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:07,760
that same

3632
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:09,840
question uh council member mueller

3633
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,040
and their response has been they're

3634
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:13,280
doing the best they can

3635
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:15,119
with the resources they have so wasn't

3636
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:17,920
it wasn't a great answer

3637
02:16:15,119 --> 02:16:18,560
i think uh we know there has been some

3638
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:20,159
silting

3639
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:21,760
i don't think that it's inordinate

3640
02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:26,320
amount of silt uh

3641
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:29,679
you know i that number is probably

3642
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:30,320
pretty close to what they're estimating

3643
02:16:29,679 --> 02:16:32,559
now

3644
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:34,080
plus or minus a couple of maybe a couple

3645
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:35,920
hundred a hundred acre feet or

3646
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:37,359
a couple of thousand not certainly not a

3647
02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:38,800
thousand acre feet so

3648
02:16:37,359 --> 02:16:40,719
i don't think it's a tremendous amount

3649
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:42,880
but certainly from the fires

3650
02:16:40,719 --> 02:16:44,240
and from and just from time in general

3651
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:46,960
it's built in that

3652
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:48,960
you have a really valid viewpoint we

3653
02:16:46,960 --> 02:16:52,800
know that the control tower

3654
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:54,559
uh the bottom couple 15 or 20 feet

3655
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:57,200
hasn't been accessible for

3656
02:16:54,559 --> 02:16:58,160
many many years because it's built it in

3657
02:16:57,200 --> 02:17:00,319
okay

3658
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:02,160
because i know we saw a lot of silks

3659
02:17:00,319 --> 02:17:02,880
over time like i don't know how long it

3660
02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:05,840
was five

3661
02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:06,319
six seven years ago you know uh just in

3662
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:08,880
our little

3663
02:17:06,319 --> 02:17:10,319
hopper creek here in town and had to you

3664
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:13,280
know do some dredging there

3665
02:17:10,319 --> 02:17:14,639
just for this reason and uh very hopeful

3666
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:16,240
it's gonna start raining but if it

3667
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:18,319
doesn't uh

3668
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:20,000
you know having a good measurement which

3669
02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:22,000
does not cost very much money it's

3670
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:25,040
pretty easy technology i just

3671
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:27,120
i feel more warm and fuzzy but anyway

3672
02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:28,800
thanks yeah and i would i would

3673
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:29,679
encourage you to contact the county

3674
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:33,599
officials they're

3675
02:17:29,679 --> 02:17:35,679
the experts in all the specific data

3676
02:17:33,599 --> 02:17:37,200
i i will reach out to them and i'll come

3677
02:17:35,679 --> 02:17:38,399
back to you all with the information if

3678
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:40,719
i find some

3679
02:17:38,399 --> 02:17:42,800
okay great yeah we did get that report

3680
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:46,639
just today so they have some

3681
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:46,639
very current information

3682
02:17:46,880 --> 02:17:54,960
vice mayor thank you this is a follow-up

3683
02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:58,319
to council member doernbecher

3684
02:17:54,960 --> 02:18:00,240
are you suggesting maybe uh to switch

3685
02:17:58,319 --> 02:18:02,719
the alternate days like to

3686
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:03,599
sunday and wednesday and monday and

3687
02:18:02,719 --> 02:18:06,880
thursday

3688
02:18:03,599 --> 02:18:11,840
so that there's not

3689
02:18:06,880 --> 02:18:11,840
a longer lag between watering

3690
02:18:12,639 --> 02:18:16,240
yes that's exactly what i'm proposing

3691
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:20,080
you know asking if that's

3692
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:23,200
a possibility and and so then uh

3693
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:25,120
director tagliamashi with that

3694
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:26,240
i didn't exactly follow your explanation

3695
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:28,880
i apologize

3696
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:32,240
would that do harm to what we're trying

3697
02:18:28,880 --> 02:18:35,040
to do in conserving if we switch to give

3698
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:35,439
sort of a more equal window between the

3699
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,800
two

3700
02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:40,639
allowable days no i i i

3701
02:18:38,800 --> 02:18:42,080
we're we're trying to get those four

3702
02:18:40,639 --> 02:18:43,920
days and it really doesn't that

3703
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:44,960
combination of those four days is up to

3704
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:47,439
you all so

3705
02:18:44,960 --> 02:18:48,639
if if it makes more sense to you to have

3706
02:18:47,439 --> 02:18:50,880
it done that way

3707
02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:52,399
um then we can certainly implement it in

3708
02:18:50,880 --> 02:18:55,120
that fashion

3709
02:18:52,399 --> 02:18:56,559
and while agreeing with that i will also

3710
02:18:55,120 --> 02:19:00,240
share though that

3711
02:18:56,559 --> 02:19:02,800
we do not have staff for monitoring

3712
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:05,040
and dealing with the calls and reports

3713
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:07,599
about violations that occur over the

3714
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:08,880
weekend so that has historically been

3715
02:19:07,599 --> 02:19:11,439
one of the reasons

3716
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:12,240
the last schedule was used because

3717
02:19:11,439 --> 02:19:14,880
people

3718
02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:15,679
will want to report and share when they

3719
02:19:14,880 --> 02:19:18,479
see

3720
02:19:15,679 --> 02:19:20,160
water runoff and stuff but again that's

3721
02:19:18,479 --> 02:19:22,160
your fault on on

3722
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:24,559
the the dates that you want to use but

3723
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:26,880
just remember there won't be any

3724
02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:28,319
any active staff on a saturday sunday

3725
02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:31,280
for monitoring

3726
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:31,679
in inappropriate use on those days and

3727
02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:34,559
joe

3728
02:19:31,679 --> 02:19:35,920
uh i believe i heard you say that the

3729
02:19:34,559 --> 02:19:36,800
schedule you're proposing is the one

3730
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:40,080
that we used

3731
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:41,920
successfully before that that's accurate

3732
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,639
mayor it worked very well once people

3733
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:45,359
figured out

3734
02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:47,359
how to water uh there is a little a bit

3735
02:19:45,359 --> 02:19:48,640
of a learning curve on watering and we

3736
02:19:47,359 --> 02:19:50,880
can help people

3737
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:52,479
uh help educate people with some of that

3738
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:55,840
but basically it's a

3739
02:19:52,479 --> 02:19:58,880
a shorter watering cycle over many

3740
02:19:55,840 --> 02:20:00,880
uh maybe three cycles instead of two in

3741
02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:02,800
in the course of an evening so

3742
02:20:00,880 --> 02:20:04,880
if you think about how most people water

3743
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:05,520
it maybe for 15 or 20 minutes at one

3744
02:20:04,880 --> 02:20:08,000
time

3745
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:08,880
you would break that up into a five or

3746
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:11,200
seven minute

3747
02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:13,280
cycle and do it a couple two or three

3748
02:20:11,200 --> 02:20:13,920
times that allows the water to saturate

3749
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:16,240
in

3750
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:17,520
to the ground and not run off uh into

3751
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:18,800
the curb and gutter which is what we're

3752
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:21,280
trying to uh

3753
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:22,560
to avoid right thank you vice mayor go

3754
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:24,560
ahead

3755
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:26,080
no i'm i'm done i'll take my hand down

3756
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:28,840
thank you okay

3757
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:30,160
thought you had more that was a short

3758
02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:33,520
list

3759
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:34,960
okay uh any i don't see any other hands

3760
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:37,439
from the council any public comment on

3761
02:20:34,960 --> 02:20:37,439
this michelle

3762
02:20:40,160 --> 02:20:46,720
no okay thank you so uh

3763
02:20:43,359 --> 02:20:48,640
i believe uh we have a couple things to

3764
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:50,160
just clarify if anyone's prepared to

3765
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:53,040
make a motion either to

3766
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,720
accept uh the report as recommended or

3767
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,760
with any modifications councilmember

3768
02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:59,680
mueller

3769
02:20:55,760 --> 02:21:03,840
yeah i'll make a motion that we approve

3770
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:05,920
resolution number 21-4054

3771
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:09,040
adopt resolutions approving the

3772
02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:12,160
implementation of modified phase two

3773
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:14,399
water emergency regulations and pray for

3774
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:14,399
rain

3775
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:19,120
okay is there a second to that i'll

3776
02:21:17,520 --> 02:21:20,720
second

3777
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:22,479
so a motion by councilmember moeller

3778
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:24,399
second councilor doernbecher

3779
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:25,680
so that just to be clear we're going

3780
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:27,280
back to the

3781
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:29,359
staff recommendation correct

3782
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:32,080
councilmember mueller yes

3783
02:21:29,359 --> 02:21:33,600
thank you we can always come back if

3784
02:21:32,080 --> 02:21:37,200
things aren't working

3785
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:39,280
and change it later correct right yes

3786
02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:40,399
we may see if there if it never rains

3787
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:41,760
again we might be having this

3788
02:21:40,399 --> 02:21:45,439
conversation again

3789
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:46,160
in the middle of the summer so okay uh

3790
02:21:45,439 --> 02:21:47,520
michelle

3791
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:50,000
let's go ahead and have a roll call vote

3792
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:54,560
please thank you councilmember

3793
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:58,880
mueller yes council member doernbecher

3794
02:21:54,560 --> 02:22:02,640
yes councilmember knight all right

3795
02:21:58,880 --> 02:22:05,760
dear dorman yes mayor dunbar

3796
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:06,560
yes thank you that passes unanimously

3797
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:09,439
thank you very much

3798
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:10,479
thank you joe thank you very much

3799
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:13,840
council

3800
02:22:10,479 --> 02:22:16,800
yes just what you want to do for

3801
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:17,840
public works month is uh put in place

3802
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:20,880
some water

3803
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:21,359
conservation restrictions excellent if

3804
02:22:20,880 --> 02:22:22,800
we all

3805
02:22:21,359 --> 02:22:24,800
together we'll we'll have a very

3806
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:26,319
successful program i have every

3807
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:28,479
every faith we're all going to be okay

3808
02:22:26,319 --> 02:22:30,720
with this one thank you all right

3809
02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:32,240
uh thank you very much let's move on to

3810
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:35,359
our next item which is

3811
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:38,080
10b lease renewal with the united states

3812
02:22:35,359 --> 02:22:41,600
postal service considering adoption of

3813
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:42,880
resolution number 21-4055 authorizing

3814
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,720
renewal of lease

3815
02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:47,600
with u.s postal service for the

3816
02:22:44,720 --> 02:22:49,359
town-owned post office building located

3817
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:52,560
at 6514

3818
02:22:49,359 --> 02:22:56,160
washington street commencing july 1

3819
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:57,840
2022 through june 30 2027

3820
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:59,439
with the five-year option to extend the

3821
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,479
lease and approving payment of real

3822
02:22:59,439 --> 02:23:02,560
estate broker

3823
02:23:00,479 --> 02:23:04,160
commission in the amount of 36 thousand

3824
02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:06,640
dollars and i believe

3825
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:08,319
uh town manager this is you thank you

3826
02:23:06,640 --> 02:23:12,160
mayor council yes it is

3827
02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:15,200
um as outlined the town has owned uh

3828
02:23:12,160 --> 02:23:17,760
the building at 6514 washington street

3829
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:18,560
which houses the you know post office

3830
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:22,399
branch

3831
02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:26,160
the last lease was commenced in 2007

3832
02:23:22,399 --> 02:23:29,600
and will expire in 2022

3833
02:23:26,160 --> 02:23:33,040
unique post office real estate

3834
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:36,640
operations is the fact that they use a

3835
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:38,960
national broker selection so one of the

3836
02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:40,880
requirements for dealing with the post

3837
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:43,920
office is that you will use

3838
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:46,160
their adopted established broker

3839
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:47,359
also what's unique in that relationship

3840
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:50,560
is that they

3841
02:23:47,359 --> 02:23:53,760
push all of the commission cost burden

3842
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:55,600
onto the um owner which is us

3843
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:58,160
and in this case they require four

3844
02:23:55,600 --> 02:24:01,520
percent so for this particular

3845
02:23:58,160 --> 02:24:04,479
uh contract term and i will point out

3846
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:06,479
we use the term renewal but the the

3847
02:24:04,479 --> 02:24:08,160
principle here is that we're renewing

3848
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:11,520
keeping the post office

3849
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:15,200
but this is a new price point set the

3850
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:15,520
current lease rate um at the point right

3851
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:18,880
now

3852
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:21,920
is 146

3853
02:24:18,880 --> 02:24:25,760
500 and we have negotiated a

3854
02:24:21,920 --> 02:24:26,399
a new base that will move to 180 000 a

3855
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:29,920
year

3856
02:24:26,399 --> 02:24:33,760
beginning july 1 22

3857
02:24:29,920 --> 02:24:36,720
and that is approximately a 22.8 percent

3858
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:37,760
increase and that will play in place for

3859
02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:40,399
five years

3860
02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:41,120
and then the post office will have the

3861
02:24:40,399 --> 02:24:45,040
option

3862
02:24:41,120 --> 02:24:49,760
to renew the lease with an 8

3863
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:53,160
um adjustment bringing that to 194

3864
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:57,520
400 for the term july 1

3865
02:24:53,160 --> 02:25:01,040
2027 through june 30 20 32

3866
02:24:57,520 --> 02:25:03,680
and the town is setting a shorter

3867
02:25:01,040 --> 02:25:05,359
term a 10-year term so that we have

3868
02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:09,600
greater opportunity

3869
02:25:05,359 --> 02:25:12,560
with the reset point on the lease

3870
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:12,880
this is a slightly new lease structure

3871
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:15,680
but

3872
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:16,399
all of the key elements of the town

3873
02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:17,920
attorney

3874
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:20,000
public works director and i have

3875
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:21,359
reviewed and there are no structural

3876
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:23,840
concerns or elements

3877
02:25:21,359 --> 02:25:24,640
with the lease other than as one can

3878
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,800
imagine

3879
02:25:24,640 --> 02:25:28,479
it is with a federal institution and

3880
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:29,920
there's just some language format and

3881
02:25:28,479 --> 02:25:33,200
structure that they prefer

3882
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:36,240
to use um and with that

3883
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:37,600
we've also negotiated a split payment of

3884
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:40,720
the commission

3885
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:42,720
into half this fiscal year half next to

3886
02:25:40,720 --> 02:25:46,000
help with the budget situation

3887
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:48,080
we are in with that i'm happy to answer

3888
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:49,840
any questions the council may have

3889
02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:52,240
i do want to stress that this is

3890
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:55,680
obviously a net positive

3891
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:58,479
so that the towns in our income stream

3892
02:25:55,680 --> 02:26:02,240
revenue where we show ransom concessions

3893
02:25:58,479 --> 02:26:06,479
in beginning july of 22 we will see a 33

3894
02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:09,040
500 increase going forward thank you

3895
02:26:06,479 --> 02:26:09,600
and i'll very quickly apologize to

3896
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:12,640
council

3897
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:15,120
i failed to take a break before we got

3898
02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:16,399
to this item we will take a break

3899
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:18,880
right after this item which i'm

3900
02:26:16,399 --> 02:26:21,680
anticipating will be relatively brief

3901
02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:22,960
so with that council member knight thank

3902
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:24,720
you mayor

3903
02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:26,240
um i can support the resolution it's

3904
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:29,280
just uh

3905
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:29,680
irritating to have to reading to have to

3906
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:32,240
pay

3907
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:33,120
this full commission but i do i didn't

3908
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:36,000
see any report

3909
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:36,880
but i do appreciate uh town manager's

3910
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:40,240
efforts to

3911
02:26:36,880 --> 02:26:42,399
uh get the feed divided over a couple

3912
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:45,520
fiscal years which is

3913
02:26:42,399 --> 02:26:47,200
uh good for the town but uh i guess the

3914
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:50,399
question is what if we said no

3915
02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:51,120
and and tried to work this out herself

3916
02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:55,200
is that a

3917
02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:56,800
a non option is that a not an option

3918
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:59,120
i think council member knight i will

3919
02:26:56,800 --> 02:27:01,040
first say that negotiating

3920
02:26:59,120 --> 02:27:02,880
with the post office structure is

3921
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:04,000
challenging and unique because i really

3922
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:06,720
do not have

3923
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:08,800
the general leverage that you would have

3924
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:11,280
in negotiations because

3925
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:12,880
are we prepared to walk away from having

3926
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:16,080
the post office as a tenant

3927
02:27:12,880 --> 02:27:16,399
and tell them no especially when we you

3928
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:18,800
know

3929
02:27:16,399 --> 02:27:19,439
centered into a we went through this

3930
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:21,920
quite a bit

3931
02:27:19,439 --> 02:27:23,760
so i will share with you that um we are

3932
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:26,160
behind the timeline that they would have

3933
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:29,359
preferred for us to bring the renewal

3934
02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:31,439
and according to the broker we sort of

3935
02:27:29,359 --> 02:27:33,920
push them to the limits of the

3936
02:27:31,439 --> 02:27:35,840
broader terms that they have they do

3937
02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:37,359
reflect a little bit we provided some

3938
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:40,399
background on

3939
02:27:37,359 --> 02:27:42,640
rents and information in the outfield

3940
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:43,439
i will tell you you know we haven't done

3941
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:45,840
this in 15

3942
02:27:43,439 --> 02:27:47,760
some years so i i think we're catching

3943
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:49,600
up some and they realize that

3944
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:51,920
but but yes it's sort of like

3945
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:52,880
negotiating with the 800 pound gorilla

3946
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:54,170
in the room

3947
02:27:52,880 --> 02:27:56,800
and you really aren't

3948
02:27:54,170 --> 02:27:58,720
[Music]

3949
02:27:56,800 --> 02:28:02,000
you really aren't going to get rid of

3950
02:27:58,720 --> 02:28:04,080
that and are we able to do something so

3951
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:06,080
short answer not a lot of luck with that

3952
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:08,319
regard okay well thank you

3953
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:09,600
uh town manager and steve for your work

3954
02:28:08,319 --> 02:28:11,920
i appreciate that

3955
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:13,520
and uh i would think that i would think

3956
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:14,319
the post office wouldn't want to go away

3957
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:17,120
but uh

3958
02:28:14,319 --> 02:28:19,520
but you know these days who knows so uh

3959
02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:22,880
thanks for your work

3960
02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:26,080
and to that point steve what is the

3961
02:28:22,880 --> 02:28:29,760
outcome if there is a consolidation of

3962
02:28:26,080 --> 02:28:30,800
post office locations just based on the

3963
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:33,280
the

3964
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:33,840
financial conditions of the postal

3965
02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:36,479
service

3966
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:38,479
as a whole uh what happens you know if

3967
02:28:36,479 --> 02:28:41,680
we're paying this 36 000 commission

3968
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:43,920
upfront for example

3969
02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:45,200
are we we just lose that amortization of

3970
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:47,760
that money

3971
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:48,479
what happens to the contract do we know

3972
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:51,840
well

3973
02:28:48,479 --> 02:28:54,880
one if they void the contract you know

3974
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:56,479
with that regard my understanding to the

3975
02:28:54,880 --> 02:28:59,520
first point is that

3976
02:28:56,479 --> 02:29:03,880
some of the small offices around us

3977
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:05,200
like the veterans home

3978
02:29:03,880 --> 02:29:08,080
[Music]

3979
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:09,520
oakville rutherford they would be merged

3980
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:11,439
into either saint olena

3981
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:12,800
or youngville those would be the ones

3982
02:29:11,439 --> 02:29:16,000
that are impacted

3983
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:19,120
we have a larger service area and base

3984
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:20,840
so that's the first understanding um

3985
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:23,280
they don't anticipate that with this

3986
02:29:20,840 --> 02:29:24,880
location well their attempt to close the

3987
02:29:23,280 --> 02:29:28,080
post office at the vets home

3988
02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:29,040
went quite badly for them a few years

3989
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:31,840
ago so

3990
02:29:29,040 --> 02:29:32,640
that's not likely going to happen again

3991
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,560
okay

3992
02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:37,439
i guess it's uh we'll deal with it if

3993
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:39,200
that's the reality in the future

3994
02:29:37,439 --> 02:29:40,479
okay any other question yeah

3995
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:42,640
councilmember mueller

3996
02:29:40,479 --> 02:29:44,319
no no question i was just getting ready

3997
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:45,439
to make a resolution after you took

3998
02:29:44,319 --> 02:29:47,200
public comment

3999
02:29:45,439 --> 02:29:49,040
that's what i'll do now if there are no

4000
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:51,840
other questions of counsel

4001
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:52,319
michelle any public comment on this no

4002
02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:54,240
mayor

4003
02:29:52,319 --> 02:29:55,600
there has not been any thank you

4004
02:29:54,240 --> 02:29:57,359
councilmember mueller

4005
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:59,040
so i'll make a motion that we approve

4006
02:29:57,359 --> 02:30:04,479
resolution

4007
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:06,399
uh 21-40 55 adopt resolution authorizing

4008
02:30:04,479 --> 02:30:07,600
renewal of lease with the u.s postal

4009
02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:10,920
service for the town

4010
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:14,399
owned post office building located at

4011
02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:18,040
6514 washington street commencing july 1

4012
02:30:14,399 --> 02:30:21,200
2022 through june 30th

4013
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:22,880
2027 with a five-year option to extend

4014
02:30:21,200 --> 02:30:26,080
the lease in approving payment

4015
02:30:22,880 --> 02:30:29,760
of real estate broker commission of 36

4016
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:32,960
thousand dollars and zero cents

4017
02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:34,880
just a second thank you our

4018
02:30:32,960 --> 02:30:36,479
uh motion councilmember moller second

4019
02:30:34,880 --> 02:30:37,359
councilmember doran becker is what i

4020
02:30:36,479 --> 02:30:39,920
heard

4021
02:30:37,359 --> 02:30:41,439
michelle roll call vote please thank you

4022
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:45,040
council member mueller

4023
02:30:41,439 --> 02:30:47,920
yes council member dorne becker yes

4024
02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:49,439
councilmember knight yes vice mayor

4025
02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:53,359
dorman

4026
02:30:49,439 --> 02:30:55,439
yes mayor dunbar yes thank you

4027
02:30:53,359 --> 02:30:58,080
thank you and again thanks to staff for

4028
02:30:55,439 --> 02:31:01,600
negotiating with the federal agency

4029
02:30:58,080 --> 02:31:03,600
i'm sure it was a lot of fun

4030
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:05,120
uh we are going to take a five minute

4031
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:07,040
comfort break please keep it to five

4032
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:08,160
minutes if at all possible and we'll get

4033
02:31:07,040 --> 02:31:10,560
back here at 5

4034
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:15,840
30 8. just a very short comfort break

4035
02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:15,840
thank you

4036
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:29,840
do

4037
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:57,840
c

4038
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:28,880
okay and we are back thank you everyone

4039
02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:32,800
for being timely item 10

4040
02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:34,560
c is our proposed parks and recreation

4041
02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:36,560
master planning process

4042
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:38,479
discussion and possible direction

4043
02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:39,760
regarding our parks and recreation

4044
02:37:38,479 --> 02:37:43,520
master plan

4045
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:43,520
process samantha

4046
02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:48,240
good evening all thank you i'm here this

4047
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:52,960
evening to

4048
02:37:48,240 --> 02:37:54,960
us and ask for your input um

4049
02:37:52,960 --> 02:37:56,399
for staff and the parks and recreation

4050
02:37:54,960 --> 02:37:58,960
advisory commission

4051
02:37:56,399 --> 02:38:02,160
on what we're proposing for a parks and

4052
02:37:58,960 --> 02:38:05,920
recreation master planning process

4053
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:07,920
as you may recall in the 2015-2016 parks

4054
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:10,160
and recreation department budget

4055
02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:11,600
you had approved a five-year strategic

4056
02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:14,319
planning process

4057
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:15,840
that was included funding for a

4058
02:38:14,319 --> 02:38:18,399
consultant to

4059
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:19,120
complete that process with us as we

4060
02:38:18,399 --> 02:38:21,439
began

4061
02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:22,640
preparing the request for proposal and

4062
02:38:21,439 --> 02:38:24,880
sending that out

4063
02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:25,920
it became clear that the overlapping

4064
02:38:24,880 --> 02:38:27,840
nature of other

4065
02:38:25,920 --> 02:38:29,040
planning processes that were going on

4066
02:38:27,840 --> 02:38:30,880
concurrently

4067
02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:33,200
we had the climate action plan and we're

4068
02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:34,960
also doing i believe it was the housing

4069
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:37,040
update to the general plan

4070
02:38:34,960 --> 02:38:38,880
um decided with the town manager it

4071
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:41,520
would be best to

4072
02:38:38,880 --> 02:38:43,520
take a pause on pursuing that to not

4073
02:38:41,520 --> 02:38:46,640
overwhelm our citizens

4074
02:38:43,520 --> 02:38:48,720
with input and outreach requests

4075
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:50,240
so we tabled that at the time um the

4076
02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:52,399
money went unspent

4077
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:54,000
um and then fast forward to today and

4078
02:38:52,399 --> 02:38:54,640
the parks and recreation advisory

4079
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:56,800
commission

4080
02:38:54,640 --> 02:38:59,520
and staff are revisiting the need for

4081
02:38:56,800 --> 02:39:02,319
this type of a formal planning process

4082
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:02,960
and planned document which we see as

4083
02:39:02,319 --> 02:39:05,520
something

4084
02:39:02,960 --> 02:39:07,120
very beneficial for the town for staff

4085
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,960
and for our residents

4086
02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:11,280
which would have an inventory and

4087
02:39:08,960 --> 02:39:12,399
analysis of our current facilities and

4088
02:39:11,280 --> 02:39:14,640
programs

4089
02:39:12,399 --> 02:39:15,439
as well as plan and have a discussion

4090
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:18,720
for the future

4091
02:39:15,439 --> 02:39:21,760
use of our facilities and programs

4092
02:39:18,720 --> 02:39:23,120
so for those of you who already know

4093
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:25,359
this will be a

4094
02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:26,800
refresh for you but a parks and

4095
02:39:25,359 --> 02:39:28,080
recreation master plan

4096
02:39:26,800 --> 02:39:30,000
is not something that the town of

4097
02:39:28,080 --> 02:39:32,240
yonkville has done before

4098
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:33,840
so this would be a new planning document

4099
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:36,479
to guide us

4100
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:39,280
so a master plan in parks and recreation

4101
02:39:36,479 --> 02:39:41,920
is a comprehensive long-range strategy

4102
02:39:39,280 --> 02:39:44,240
uh to for the creation optimization and

4103
02:39:41,920 --> 02:39:46,000
maintenance of our communities assets

4104
02:39:44,240 --> 02:39:48,240
uh so in yonkville our assets are

4105
02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:52,000
obviously our parks our paths

4106
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:53,840
trails and our facilities

4107
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:57,920
brick and mortar facilities as well as

4108
02:39:53,840 --> 02:40:00,880
our recreation programming and services

4109
02:39:57,920 --> 02:40:01,920
so we look at where we take an overview

4110
02:40:00,880 --> 02:40:04,080
of the whole system

4111
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:05,280
where it stands today and then plans for

4112
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:06,800
the future

4113
02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:09,040
so the plan would provide an

4114
02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:10,960
organizational framework for improving

4115
02:40:09,040 --> 02:40:12,560
our parks and recreation facilities

4116
02:40:10,960 --> 02:40:14,399
programs and services

4117
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:18,319
to better serve the current residents of

4118
02:40:14,399 --> 02:40:20,080
yachtville and also plan for the future

4119
02:40:18,319 --> 02:40:22,640
as you know young phil has seen some

4120
02:40:20,080 --> 02:40:24,240
changes over even just the shoot a few

4121
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:24,960
short years with the closure of the

4122
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:27,760
school

4123
02:40:24,960 --> 02:40:29,920
and changing demographics there's a

4124
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:30,880
benefit to parks and recreation master

4125
02:40:29,920 --> 02:40:33,279
plans

4126
02:40:30,880 --> 02:40:35,600
for guiding staff and the community as

4127
02:40:33,279 --> 02:40:37,520
well as the other decision making

4128
02:40:35,600 --> 02:40:39,760
it also helps to build credibility

4129
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:40,640
support and consensus amongst community

4130
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:43,600
members

4131
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:45,120
informs citizens about needs and

4132
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:47,200
community assets

4133
02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:48,880
identifies capital improvement goals and

4134
02:40:47,200 --> 02:40:51,120
fiscal requirements

4135
02:40:48,880 --> 02:40:52,800
it can help us position for alternative

4136
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,800
funding and grants

4137
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:57,120
it can also guide critical decisions

4138
02:40:54,800 --> 02:40:58,560
about facilities infrastructure programs

4139
02:40:57,120 --> 02:41:01,120
and services

4140
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:02,399
and then develops recommendations and an

4141
02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:06,479
implementation

4142
02:41:02,399 --> 02:41:07,600
strategy so to be successful obviously

4143
02:41:06,479 --> 02:41:10,160
and move forward

4144
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:11,760
with any goals outlined in the plan it

4145
02:41:10,160 --> 02:41:13,600
would need to align with all of the

4146
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:16,000
other current plans that we current

4147
02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:16,800
we have in the not just in the town of

4148
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:20,000
yonville but

4149
02:41:16,800 --> 02:41:22,560
in the county that directly

4150
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:24,560
correlate which we see as the general

4151
02:41:22,560 --> 02:41:26,560
plan the climate action plan we have an

4152
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:29,760
ada accessibility plan

4153
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:31,520
the cip the napa county bicycle plan and

4154
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:33,680
more

4155
02:41:31,520 --> 02:41:34,880
and also to be successful the plan needs

4156
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:37,520
to be flexible

4157
02:41:34,880 --> 02:41:38,960
it needs to be cost effective achievable

4158
02:41:37,520 --> 02:41:41,760
something that's useful

4159
02:41:38,960 --> 02:41:43,439
and something that's used and of course

4160
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:44,000
involve the public for input and

4161
02:41:43,439 --> 02:41:47,279
feedback

4162
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:48,160
throughout the process so generally

4163
02:41:47,279 --> 02:41:50,160
there's three

4164
02:41:48,160 --> 02:41:52,640
there's four main steps to the process

4165
02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:55,840
which i included an attachment

4166
02:41:52,640 --> 02:41:58,640
um on more detail with that that's just

4167
02:41:55,840 --> 02:42:00,479
a draft it's not a set and shown

4168
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:02,560
but generally you would we would review

4169
02:42:00,479 --> 02:42:04,399
existing conditions in inventory

4170
02:42:02,560 --> 02:42:06,560
which is something we already do as far

4171
02:42:04,399 --> 02:42:09,279
as our capital improvement

4172
02:42:06,560 --> 02:42:09,920
plan and our inventory goes as we assess

4173
02:42:09,279 --> 02:42:12,160
our

4174
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:14,479
assets like playgrounds and our

4175
02:42:12,160 --> 02:42:15,840
facilities so some of that documentation

4176
02:42:14,479 --> 02:42:18,479
already exists

4177
02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:20,240
we'd also review our programming and

4178
02:42:18,479 --> 02:42:23,040
services offered

4179
02:42:20,240 --> 02:42:23,920
and include those in inventory then we

4180
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:26,080
would analyze

4181
02:42:23,920 --> 02:42:26,960
needs and preferences a lot of that

4182
02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:28,960
would be

4183
02:42:26,960 --> 02:42:31,520
looking at the community asking for

4184
02:42:28,960 --> 02:42:35,600
feedback and then looking at what we see

4185
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:38,160
our future is whether they're issues or

4186
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:40,160
things that we see on the horizon we

4187
02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:40,960
would develop and prioritize an action

4188
02:42:40,160 --> 02:42:44,160
plan

4189
02:42:40,960 --> 02:42:45,760
and then adopt and implement the plan

4190
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:47,760
so it's a little different prop most

4191
02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:49,920
likely because of our scale

4192
02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:52,160
we're really recommending that this

4193
02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:55,359
could be mostly an internal process

4194
02:42:52,160 --> 02:42:56,240
so generally speaking master plans are

4195
02:42:55,359 --> 02:42:58,080
something that

4196
02:42:56,240 --> 02:43:00,399
you would involve a consultant from the

4197
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:04,080
start it can be anywhere from

4198
02:43:00,399 --> 02:43:07,040
in this market probably 60 000 and up

4199
02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:08,399
for a master planning process so we're

4200
02:43:07,040 --> 02:43:11,279
recommending that we

4201
02:43:08,399 --> 02:43:12,160
over um it will take a little bit longer

4202
02:43:11,279 --> 02:43:14,560
but working

4203
02:43:12,160 --> 02:43:16,160
with mostly the parks and rec department

4204
02:43:14,560 --> 02:43:16,880
and public works department that we

4205
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:19,279
would

4206
02:43:16,880 --> 02:43:21,520
um be able to do a lot of that process

4207
02:43:19,279 --> 02:43:22,319
in-house with the exception of some

4208
02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:24,800
strategic

4209
02:43:22,319 --> 02:43:26,800
public outreach and engagement and then

4210
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:29,279
data analysis

4211
02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:31,040
so we have gone over this with the parks

4212
02:43:29,279 --> 02:43:33,600
and recreation advisory commission

4213
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:35,680
at length some of this was stimulated

4214
02:43:33,600 --> 02:43:37,359
from things that are coming up at that

4215
02:43:35,680 --> 02:43:39,359
at those meetings and with the public

4216
02:43:37,359 --> 02:43:42,479
input there but it also

4217
02:43:39,359 --> 02:43:45,439
comes back to staff's desire

4218
02:43:42,479 --> 02:43:47,600
um to we have something that can be

4219
02:43:45,439 --> 02:43:48,479
historical in nature that we can refer

4220
02:43:47,600 --> 02:43:49,840
back to that

4221
02:43:48,479 --> 02:43:52,479
and that we could also update

4222
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:55,120
periodically as we move forward

4223
02:43:52,479 --> 02:43:56,960
um so we are proposing in the

4224
02:43:55,120 --> 02:43:58,960
administrative budget for parks and

4225
02:43:56,960 --> 02:44:00,880
recreation in the next fiscal year

4226
02:43:58,960 --> 02:44:03,120
fifteen thousand dollars in contract

4227
02:44:00,880 --> 02:44:05,040
services so you'll see that tomorrow in

4228
02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:07,040
our budget presentation

4229
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:08,399
and that would really be used to hire

4230
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:10,479
consultants just

4231
02:44:08,399 --> 02:44:12,560
to assist with that public outreach and

4232
02:44:10,479 --> 02:44:14,240
engagement and data analysis

4233
02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:15,600
and that's really for credibility

4234
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:18,640
reasons there's

4235
02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:20,080
um you know there can be an uh feeling

4236
02:44:18,640 --> 02:44:23,120
in the community if staff

4237
02:44:20,080 --> 02:44:27,040
is directing or guiding to too much

4238
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:29,200
um or if the public is not necessarily

4239
02:44:27,040 --> 02:44:30,080
feeling hurt or that there is a

4240
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:32,720
non-partial

4241
02:44:30,080 --> 02:44:36,960
person that is helping with that process

4242
02:44:32,720 --> 02:44:36,960
of gathering and analyzing that data

4243
02:44:37,279 --> 02:44:41,439
so really um i i just would like to

4244
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:42,399
reiterate that staff feels really

4245
02:44:41,439 --> 02:44:44,240
strongly that this

4246
02:44:42,399 --> 02:44:45,600
is uh could be a really beneficial

4247
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:48,720
project just for

4248
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:50,800
the town for staff to implement

4249
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:53,760
and then also for the public engagement

4250
02:44:50,800 --> 02:44:56,479
that goes along with it

4251
02:44:53,760 --> 02:44:58,000
we are requesting i'm requesting tonight

4252
02:44:56,479 --> 02:44:59,760
oh and what i was going to say was the

4253
02:44:58,000 --> 02:45:00,720
personal recreation commission felt very

4254
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:03,040
strongly

4255
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:04,479
the before any movement happened in this

4256
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:07,120
process that the council gave

4257
02:45:04,479 --> 02:45:09,120
feedback and make sure that everyone was

4258
02:45:07,120 --> 02:45:10,399
on board with entering into this type of

4259
02:45:09,120 --> 02:45:13,040
process

4260
02:45:10,399 --> 02:45:14,319
and then providing feedback you know if

4261
02:45:13,040 --> 02:45:16,240
um

4262
02:45:14,319 --> 02:45:17,840
things you would like to see things you

4263
02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:19,680
don't want to see we don't have to get

4264
02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:21,359
into those specifics but

4265
02:45:19,680 --> 02:45:23,359
you know the goal of the master plan is

4266
02:45:21,359 --> 02:45:25,760
really higher level it's not

4267
02:45:23,359 --> 02:45:27,920
to analyze each individual park and

4268
02:45:25,760 --> 02:45:29,359
discuss what people like and don't like

4269
02:45:27,920 --> 02:45:30,880
it's more of a guiding

4270
02:45:29,359 --> 02:45:32,399
document of you know we see our

4271
02:45:30,880 --> 02:45:34,160
demographics changing

4272
02:45:32,399 --> 02:45:36,319
are we meeting the needs of our current

4273
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:38,160
residents and are we thinking forward to

4274
02:45:36,319 --> 02:45:40,080
those changes that we could

4275
02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:42,960
see in the future and are we planning

4276
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:45,040
for those changes as well

4277
02:45:42,960 --> 02:45:46,640
so i'm happy to answer any questions but

4278
02:45:45,040 --> 02:45:47,520
again would really appreciate any

4279
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:50,000
feedback

4280
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:50,720
um in whether you're in support of this

4281
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:54,640
type of a

4282
02:45:50,720 --> 02:45:57,120
project or not and then of course

4283
02:45:54,640 --> 02:45:59,120
it will discuss it or not based on your

4284
02:45:57,120 --> 02:45:59,840
feedback as well at tomorrow's budget

4285
02:45:59,120 --> 02:46:02,640
meeting

4286
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:03,520
thank you thank you samantha let me ask

4287
02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:05,439
you just uh

4288
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:06,640
an opening question about the timing of

4289
02:46:05,439 --> 02:46:09,439
this

4290
02:46:06,640 --> 02:46:10,880
um it's not just a financial thing

4291
02:46:09,439 --> 02:46:12,560
fifteen thousand dollars uh

4292
02:46:10,880 --> 02:46:14,000
you know it's fifteen thousand dollars

4293
02:46:12,560 --> 02:46:17,120
it's not a

4294
02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:20,880
giant sum of money but it's money uh but

4295
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:21,520
also to evaluate in the current climate

4296
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:23,439
of

4297
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:24,800
park and recreational programming and

4298
02:46:23,439 --> 02:46:25,340
activity

4299
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:27,920
can we

4300
02:46:25,340 --> 02:46:30,399
[Music]

4301
02:46:27,920 --> 02:46:32,479
evaluate what's working what's not

4302
02:46:30,399 --> 02:46:35,120
working what we might want to do

4303
02:46:32,479 --> 02:46:36,640
at that 30 000 foot level given the fact

4304
02:46:35,120 --> 02:46:39,200
that we've been

4305
02:46:36,640 --> 02:46:40,720
completely disconnected from normality

4306
02:46:39,200 --> 02:46:43,359
for the last year

4307
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:44,960
and are still not back to total you know

4308
02:46:43,359 --> 02:46:45,600
regular behavior you feel like this is

4309
02:46:44,960 --> 02:46:49,040
still

4310
02:46:45,600 --> 02:46:51,120
an okay time to to launch this kind of a

4311
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:54,640
review

4312
02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:56,160
i do i think that um even though we

4313
02:46:54,640 --> 02:46:58,399
weren't able to

4314
02:46:56,160 --> 02:46:59,520
maintain our connections in traditional

4315
02:46:58,399 --> 02:47:01,439
ways we definitely

4316
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:02,880
did maintain those connections in

4317
02:47:01,439 --> 02:47:05,279
alternate ways so

4318
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:06,880
i don't think that um that would really

4319
02:47:05,279 --> 02:47:08,399
inhibit it i think

4320
02:47:06,880 --> 02:47:11,680
you know people will kind of have to

4321
02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:13,840
look at 20 2019 and early 2020 as kind

4322
02:47:11,680 --> 02:47:16,960
of the baseline of what

4323
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:18,800
we are used to providing um but again if

4324
02:47:16,960 --> 02:47:20,479
we're really looking at kind of that 30

4325
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:22,720
000 foot level and not

4326
02:47:20,479 --> 02:47:23,840
a specific program say you know we're

4327
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:26,560
not going to

4328
02:47:23,840 --> 02:47:28,640
you know at length plan every um program

4329
02:47:26,560 --> 02:47:30,319
under the golden ticket heading um in a

4330
02:47:28,640 --> 02:47:31,439
public meeting it's more of a higher

4331
02:47:30,319 --> 02:47:34,880
level i think

4332
02:47:31,439 --> 02:47:36,800
i think we would get that feedback from

4333
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:37,920
the community on you know what is it

4334
02:47:36,800 --> 02:47:40,000
that they

4335
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:41,040
are looking for what are the needs that

4336
02:47:40,000 --> 02:47:43,680
they

4337
02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:44,479
want met okay thank you councilmember

4338
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:48,000
knight

4339
02:47:44,479 --> 02:47:52,080
to add also the very first portion

4340
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:54,560
a significant timeline is a lot of the

4341
02:47:52,080 --> 02:47:57,120
input gathering data collection and

4342
02:47:54,560 --> 02:48:00,319
documentation as to the existing

4343
02:47:57,120 --> 02:48:00,640
so we will be you know by the time we

4344
02:48:00,319 --> 02:48:04,479
get

4345
02:48:00,640 --> 02:48:06,319
to the community outreach and engagement

4346
02:48:04,479 --> 02:48:08,800
we would hope that we're more into our

4347
02:48:06,319 --> 02:48:12,319
normal programming aspect

4348
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:16,720
okay thank you now councilmember knight

4349
02:48:12,319 --> 02:48:20,319
thank you mayor i absolutely can support

4350
02:48:16,720 --> 02:48:21,359
um a a parks recreation master planning

4351
02:48:20,319 --> 02:48:22,960
process now

4352
02:48:21,359 --> 02:48:24,880
i think it's the perfect time we

4353
02:48:22,960 --> 02:48:27,920
finished a general plan

4354
02:48:24,880 --> 02:48:31,200
um we've done our climate action and

4355
02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:34,240
uh it's really time now for us to plan

4356
02:48:31,200 --> 02:48:36,960
uh really for the future either from a

4357
02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:38,960
bird's eye view or also looking at

4358
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:41,359
individual parks because

4359
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:42,560
we've we've spent money we've improved

4360
02:48:41,359 --> 02:48:45,840
community park

4361
02:48:42,560 --> 02:48:47,359
we've seen uses change at vineyard park

4362
02:48:45,840 --> 02:48:50,080
because of pickleball

4363
02:48:47,359 --> 02:48:52,640
we see i think opportunities for more

4364
02:48:50,080 --> 02:48:54,479
uses at veterans park

4365
02:48:52,640 --> 02:48:55,840
because of music in the park and other

4366
02:48:54,479 --> 02:48:58,479
activities so

4367
02:48:55,840 --> 02:48:59,279
i absolutely support the process yeah i

4368
02:48:58,479 --> 02:49:01,520
think you'll

4369
02:48:59,279 --> 02:49:03,520
maybe it's up to you director holland

4370
02:49:01,520 --> 02:49:05,279
whether maybe at some point you do

4371
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:07,439
assessment and information gathering

4372
02:49:05,279 --> 02:49:08,160
first before you bring on a consultant

4373
02:49:07,439 --> 02:49:10,840
but

4374
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:12,080
um i think the consultant could help

4375
02:49:10,840 --> 02:49:15,279
with uh

4376
02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:17,520
just uh just doing some of that

4377
02:49:15,279 --> 02:49:20,560
community outreach that may be difficult

4378
02:49:17,520 --> 02:49:23,279
to do in in-house

4379
02:49:20,560 --> 02:49:25,439
i i look at the your steps and i think

4380
02:49:23,279 --> 02:49:28,880
they're very good i would just strongly

4381
02:49:25,439 --> 02:49:30,960
encourage that as that as you go through

4382
02:49:28,880 --> 02:49:31,920
the assessment and information gathering

4383
02:49:30,960 --> 02:49:35,680
that you're

4384
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:38,880
um every two months the parks and rec

4385
02:49:35,680 --> 02:49:41,200
commission the prak and the community

4386
02:49:38,880 --> 02:49:42,240
through prac that they're being able to

4387
02:49:41,200 --> 02:49:45,680
give you input

4388
02:49:42,240 --> 02:49:48,240
and assess the work provide on

4389
02:49:45,680 --> 02:49:51,680
information

4390
02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:52,800
i would enjoy maybe an update in six

4391
02:49:51,680 --> 02:49:55,840
months

4392
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:57,840
but uh thank you for the work you do and

4393
02:49:55,840 --> 02:49:58,880
that your recreational staff does for

4394
02:49:57,840 --> 02:50:01,600
this community

4395
02:49:58,880 --> 02:50:02,720
i think we'll be a better community when

4396
02:50:01,600 --> 02:50:06,080
once we go through this

4397
02:50:02,720 --> 02:50:09,680
process so thank you

4398
02:50:06,080 --> 02:50:12,319
thank you vice mayor dorman

4399
02:50:09,680 --> 02:50:14,560
thank you um thank you director holland

4400
02:50:12,319 --> 02:50:17,840
um

4401
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:19,680
so i have uh had the opportunity to sit

4402
02:50:17,840 --> 02:50:20,319
in on some of the p-rack meetings to see

4403
02:50:19,680 --> 02:50:23,840
this

4404
02:50:20,319 --> 02:50:23,840
coming along um

4405
02:50:24,240 --> 02:50:28,880
i know that it is it seems to me it's

4406
02:50:26,479 --> 02:50:31,600
intended to be resident-centric

4407
02:50:28,880 --> 02:50:32,880
of what we as a community want to see in

4408
02:50:31,600 --> 02:50:36,160
our parks

4409
02:50:32,880 --> 02:50:39,439
but i also wonder should

4410
02:50:36,160 --> 02:50:41,920
or can we include use

4411
02:50:39,439 --> 02:50:43,200
and user data early on because i think

4412
02:50:41,920 --> 02:50:47,040
to the mayor's point

4413
02:50:43,200 --> 02:50:50,399
during covid we had a lot of folks here

4414
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:52,319
who were not yachtville residents

4415
02:50:50,399 --> 02:50:54,000
will that continue will that not

4416
02:50:52,319 --> 02:50:56,399
continue

4417
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:58,080
you know how does that fit in with our

4418
02:50:56,399 --> 02:51:00,399
planning for our community

4419
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:03,120
so i think i have some discussion points

4420
02:51:00,399 --> 02:51:06,880
but that is my question is

4421
02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:10,640
how when should we include

4422
02:51:06,880 --> 02:51:10,640
that kind of data also

4423
02:51:10,960 --> 02:51:14,479
yeah i think um it's a great question i

4424
02:51:13,680 --> 02:51:17,279
think that

4425
02:51:14,479 --> 02:51:18,640
you know you you can't deny that we are

4426
02:51:17,279 --> 02:51:21,120
a tourism-centered

4427
02:51:18,640 --> 02:51:21,680
uh town but i think what what i've

4428
02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:24,560
always

4429
02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:25,600
advocated for and what my i say and it

4430
02:51:24,560 --> 02:51:27,200
is true

4431
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:29,120
is that your parks and recreation

4432
02:51:27,200 --> 02:51:30,479
department through the town is here to

4433
02:51:29,120 --> 02:51:32,560
serve the residents

4434
02:51:30,479 --> 02:51:34,479
um and that's not to say that we don't

4435
02:51:32,560 --> 02:51:35,200
serve non-residents it's just when we're

4436
02:51:34,479 --> 02:51:37,760
planning

4437
02:51:35,200 --> 02:51:39,520
for the future i think um what's going

4438
02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:42,479
to serve our residents will also

4439
02:51:39,520 --> 02:51:43,120
serve our visitors and non-residents and

4440
02:51:42,479 --> 02:51:46,080
so

4441
02:51:43,120 --> 02:51:48,160
um it's some of it what you're asking is

4442
02:51:46,080 --> 02:51:50,720
is hard to quantitate because

4443
02:51:48,160 --> 02:51:51,600
we don't have an in and out in all of

4444
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:54,800
our parks

4445
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:56,240
so we don't necessarily know um who's

4446
02:51:54,800 --> 02:51:59,279
dropping in and visiting

4447
02:51:56,240 --> 02:51:59,600
our parks on a daily basis because we're

4448
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:01,760
not

4449
02:51:59,600 --> 02:52:03,840
equipped and not staffed like that we

4450
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:06,160
definitely do have the data for any type

4451
02:52:03,840 --> 02:52:08,000
of programming with registration or if

4452
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:09,359
it's a park picnic site rental or

4453
02:52:08,000 --> 02:52:12,080
something like that

4454
02:52:09,359 --> 02:52:12,800
um so we are able to quantitate that but

4455
02:52:12,080 --> 02:52:14,240
um

4456
02:52:12,800 --> 02:52:17,040
you know the use of our parks is

4457
02:52:14,240 --> 02:52:19,520
something that comes up regularly

4458
02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:20,479
um from the public and it's a discussion

4459
02:52:19,520 --> 02:52:22,800
point at

4460
02:52:20,479 --> 02:52:24,160
our um parks and recreation advisory

4461
02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:26,240
commissions as well

4462
02:52:24,160 --> 02:52:28,160
that we grapple with a little bit is you

4463
02:52:26,240 --> 02:52:30,000
know we have beautiful parks

4464
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:32,000
they're very accessible and that's kind

4465
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:35,200
of the the um

4466
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:36,479
overarching goal of public parks is that

4467
02:52:35,200 --> 02:52:38,080
they're open to the public

4468
02:52:36,479 --> 02:52:40,240
and so people could come from anywhere

4469
02:52:38,080 --> 02:52:42,640
and visit them so i think it's a fine

4470
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:44,399
balance but i think every time that

4471
02:52:42,640 --> 02:52:46,319
you as a council of the parks and

4472
02:52:44,399 --> 02:52:48,560
recreation advisory commission or staff

4473
02:52:46,319 --> 02:52:49,439
have recommended any type of project in

4474
02:52:48,560 --> 02:52:51,520
our parks

4475
02:52:49,439 --> 02:52:53,040
it's to improve the quality of life for

4476
02:52:51,520 --> 02:52:54,880
our residents first

4477
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:56,160
and then if we have visitors that enjoy

4478
02:52:54,880 --> 02:52:59,120
it as well

4479
02:52:56,160 --> 02:53:00,000
that's just an added benefit um but i

4480
02:52:59,120 --> 02:53:02,000
think we would

4481
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:03,600
you know in surveying we can definitely

4482
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:06,080
control that by asking

4483
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:06,800
questions about residency so if you know

4484
02:53:06,080 --> 02:53:09,920
you ask

4485
02:53:06,800 --> 02:53:11,439
the survey completion person if they are

4486
02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:13,840
you know what their zip code is

4487
02:53:11,439 --> 02:53:14,479
we can definitely query response like

4488
02:53:13,840 --> 02:53:16,560
that

4489
02:53:14,479 --> 02:53:18,080
um definitely by taking attendance at

4490
02:53:16,560 --> 02:53:20,080
public meetings and

4491
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:22,479
things like that as far as the feedback

4492
02:53:20,080 --> 02:53:22,479
that we're

4493
02:53:22,960 --> 02:53:26,319
um getting help to help me understand

4494
02:53:25,600 --> 02:53:29,520
because i'm i

4495
02:53:26,319 --> 02:53:31,840
i'm generally in favor of the idea i am

4496
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:33,040
but to um help me understand that kind

4497
02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:34,880
of the scope of it

4498
02:53:33,040 --> 02:53:37,120
some of the p-rack meetings have talked

4499
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:38,880
about um

4500
02:53:37,120 --> 02:53:41,359
residents look at the park and they want

4501
02:53:38,880 --> 02:53:44,080
to have more picnic tables

4502
02:53:41,359 --> 02:53:45,520
for residents because they feel either a

4503
02:53:44,080 --> 02:53:47,200
they're being rented or b

4504
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:48,720
people are coming from out of town and

4505
02:53:47,200 --> 02:53:51,279
using the tables

4506
02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:51,760
does something like that go in the plan

4507
02:53:51,279 --> 02:53:55,279
or

4508
02:53:51,760 --> 02:53:55,680
is that too uh it's that's to me it

4509
02:53:55,279 --> 02:53:58,160
would be

4510
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:59,680
to this by night i mean it may come up

4511
02:53:58,160 --> 02:54:01,600
it definitely might come up

4512
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:04,000
from public feedback you can't really

4513
02:54:01,600 --> 02:54:06,000
control that but what the goal of

4514
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:07,680
you know kind of the staff as the

4515
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:10,319
facilitators and then

4516
02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:11,439
you know as planning would be more of a

4517
02:54:10,319 --> 02:54:14,080
higher level

4518
02:54:11,439 --> 02:54:14,720
that i would take that and say you know

4519
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:16,880
residents

4520
02:54:14,720 --> 02:54:18,800
feel there's not enough drop in space in

4521
02:54:16,880 --> 02:54:21,120
our park system

4522
02:54:18,800 --> 02:54:22,160
that that might be the conversation that

4523
02:54:21,120 --> 02:54:24,319
we analyze

4524
02:54:22,160 --> 02:54:25,680
is not you know are there enough picnic

4525
02:54:24,319 --> 02:54:27,600
tables but

4526
02:54:25,680 --> 02:54:29,760
you know is it our reservable areas

4527
02:54:27,600 --> 02:54:31,200
versus non-reservable areas or we do we

4528
02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:33,920
have an imbalance or something that

4529
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:34,720
would be a goal that we would analyze so

4530
02:54:33,920 --> 02:54:36,960
i would kind of

4531
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:39,200
try to take those if there were you know

4532
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:39,840
a lot of comments to that type of an

4533
02:54:39,200 --> 02:54:42,479
issue

4534
02:54:39,840 --> 02:54:44,240
not just one obviously if we felt like

4535
02:54:42,479 --> 02:54:46,560
that was rising to the top

4536
02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:48,399
on a lot of our feedback then we would

4537
02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:49,600
look further into that kind of on a

4538
02:54:48,399 --> 02:54:53,120
higher level

4539
02:54:49,600 --> 02:54:54,399
of use um and not do we need three extra

4540
02:54:53,120 --> 02:54:56,800
picnic tables at

4541
02:54:54,399 --> 02:54:58,399
build community park for a drop in use i

4542
02:54:56,800 --> 02:54:59,200
don't i don't think we would get into

4543
02:54:58,399 --> 02:55:04,240
that

4544
02:54:59,200 --> 02:55:04,240
that level you

4545
02:55:04,640 --> 02:55:08,800
i bet some people are going to want to

4546
02:55:05,920 --> 02:55:10,640
get into that level

4547
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:12,560
yeah and i think that's the tricky part

4548
02:55:10,640 --> 02:55:14,720
about how you how you

4549
02:55:12,560 --> 02:55:16,000
approach that but and they'll have a

4550
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:17,279
good idea where you should put those

4551
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:19,359
tables as well

4552
02:55:17,279 --> 02:55:21,439
yes and i do think we we don't want to

4553
02:55:19,359 --> 02:55:22,560
kid ourselves but we will get that kind

4554
02:55:21,439 --> 02:55:25,359
of feedback

4555
02:55:22,560 --> 02:55:27,040
but i think we want to start first at

4556
02:55:25,359 --> 02:55:28,800
what do we want in the parks

4557
02:55:27,040 --> 02:55:30,080
what are the communities broader

4558
02:55:28,800 --> 02:55:33,760
interests rather

4559
02:55:30,080 --> 02:55:36,080
than the location of table 12. right

4560
02:55:33,760 --> 02:55:37,200
you know if we you know if we feel that

4561
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:39,600
there's inadequate

4562
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:41,680
tables to meet the use demand then

4563
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:44,560
that's what we respond to

4564
02:55:41,680 --> 02:55:46,080
rather than and also you know we want to

4565
02:55:44,560 --> 02:55:49,920
take a broad look

4566
02:55:46,080 --> 02:55:52,560
at survey the community

4567
02:55:49,920 --> 02:55:54,640
and survey known stakeholder groups for

4568
02:55:52,560 --> 02:55:55,359
example we know youngville community

4569
02:55:54,640 --> 02:55:58,479
park

4570
02:55:55,359 --> 02:55:59,840
has a county-wide reputation a lot of

4571
02:55:58,479 --> 02:56:02,080
young families

4572
02:55:59,840 --> 02:56:04,080
it's on their list and spots to come

4573
02:56:02,080 --> 02:56:04,880
because of the quality of our children's

4574
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:07,200
playground

4575
02:56:04,880 --> 02:56:08,399
that's that's been a historic you know

4576
02:56:07,200 --> 02:56:10,000
relative fact

4577
02:56:08,399 --> 02:56:12,960
we have now learned that we have a

4578
02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:15,680
pickleball and tennis constituency

4579
02:56:12,960 --> 02:56:16,880
during covet that have found our our

4580
02:56:15,680 --> 02:56:19,200
court facilities

4581
02:56:16,880 --> 02:56:20,880
quite interesting and quite attractive

4582
02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:21,840
so you know there are some stakeholder

4583
02:56:20,880 --> 02:56:24,800
groups bocce

4584
02:56:21,840 --> 02:56:26,319
things like that that are located that

4585
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:29,359
can be quantified

4586
02:56:26,319 --> 02:56:31,520
and included um but again

4587
02:56:29,359 --> 02:56:32,560
a lot of the first phase is just really

4588
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:35,040
a a

4589
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:36,800
good informational background what do we

4590
02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:39,279
have at the parks

4591
02:56:36,800 --> 02:56:40,080
what are the facilities and going from

4592
02:56:39,279 --> 02:56:42,080
there and

4593
02:56:40,080 --> 02:56:43,760
and then presenting that information in

4594
02:56:42,080 --> 02:56:44,960
phases and then having the community

4595
02:56:43,760 --> 02:56:47,279
respond to it

4596
02:56:44,960 --> 02:56:49,120
um i agree with that we're excited uh

4597
02:56:47,279 --> 02:56:49,840
from a management perspective we do

4598
02:56:49,120 --> 02:56:53,279
think

4599
02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:55,680
uh this is you know sort of one of the

4600
02:56:53,279 --> 02:56:56,880
projects in line and hopefully you know

4601
02:56:55,680 --> 02:56:58,560
we're moving more towards the

4602
02:56:56,880 --> 02:57:01,040
programmatic side of it

4603
02:56:58,560 --> 02:57:03,520
but we are excited about where this this

4604
02:57:01,040 --> 02:57:07,279
project can take us

4605
02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:11,200
councilor doernbecher thank you

4606
02:57:07,279 --> 02:57:13,040
um and thank you samantha um

4607
02:57:11,200 --> 02:57:14,479
you do so much work i don't know where

4608
02:57:13,040 --> 02:57:15,520
you're gonna find the time but i

4609
02:57:14,479 --> 02:57:18,880
appreciate this

4610
02:57:15,520 --> 02:57:22,399
effort so i wanted to to

4611
02:57:18,880 --> 02:57:25,840
clarify for our residents

4612
02:57:22,399 --> 02:57:29,279
that the goal of this uh parks planning

4613
02:57:25,840 --> 02:57:32,080
is really not to expand

4614
02:57:29,279 --> 02:57:33,279
the paid usage in the park that is not

4615
02:57:32,080 --> 02:57:36,479
the goal

4616
02:57:33,279 --> 02:57:39,600
um and

4617
02:57:36,479 --> 02:57:43,439
i really really want to stress that

4618
02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:46,479
um the outreach to the community and

4619
02:57:43,439 --> 02:57:48,960
without any the big

4620
02:57:46,479 --> 02:57:50,160
the big criticism that i heard over and

4621
02:57:48,960 --> 02:57:53,359
over again

4622
02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:57,120
about our uh

4623
02:57:53,359 --> 02:58:00,720
general plan update committee was that

4624
02:57:57,120 --> 02:58:04,479
when the committee met a lot of times

4625
02:58:00,720 --> 02:58:08,000
the um they

4626
02:58:04,479 --> 02:58:11,200
the person that we hired to be the uh

4627
02:58:08,000 --> 02:58:14,720
facilitator came with ideas

4628
02:58:11,200 --> 02:58:17,279
already fomented and um

4629
02:58:14,720 --> 02:58:18,000
i think that that put a lot of the

4630
02:58:17,279 --> 02:58:21,760
residents

4631
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:23,520
off so i guess my point is that

4632
02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:25,359
i want to make sure that the residents

4633
02:58:23,520 --> 02:58:28,560
know that we want to

4634
02:58:25,359 --> 02:58:30,840
hear from them what is it that

4635
02:58:28,560 --> 02:58:32,160
in the parks they would like to see more

4636
02:58:30,840 --> 02:58:34,880
of and

4637
02:58:32,160 --> 02:58:35,200
and um i know that they would like to

4638
02:58:34,880 --> 02:58:38,399
see

4639
02:58:35,200 --> 02:58:41,680
fewer people from out of town but

4640
02:58:38,399 --> 02:58:43,520
as you said so clearly public parks

4641
02:58:41,680 --> 02:58:46,080
that's what's always my answer it's a

4642
02:58:43,520 --> 02:58:49,359
public park we cannot tell people

4643
02:58:46,080 --> 02:58:52,880
i'm sorry don't step into our park so

4644
02:58:49,359 --> 02:58:56,080
anyway i just i think it's a great idea

4645
02:58:52,880 --> 02:58:59,439
holding that thought that you know this

4646
02:58:56,080 --> 02:59:02,640
is our little town and our parks

4647
02:58:59,439 --> 02:59:05,680
and where you know let's look at it from

4648
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:10,560
the view from that way okay

4649
02:59:05,680 --> 02:59:14,479
thank you councilmember mueller

4650
02:59:10,560 --> 02:59:18,479
thank you

4651
02:59:14,479 --> 02:59:21,680
i think this is a um great idea

4652
02:59:18,479 --> 02:59:22,479
uh i definitely see this uh as a master

4653
02:59:21,680 --> 02:59:24,479
plan

4654
02:59:22,479 --> 02:59:25,680
not a strategic plan i guess that's the

4655
02:59:24,479 --> 02:59:26,720
way i kind of look at the difference

4656
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:29,120
between the two of the

4657
02:59:26,720 --> 02:59:30,399
strategic plan it's more short-term what

4658
02:59:29,120 --> 02:59:31,920
are we going to do next or what we're

4659
02:59:30,399 --> 02:59:32,399
going to do with these amount of years

4660
02:59:31,920 --> 02:59:35,920
but

4661
02:59:32,399 --> 02:59:39,520
i think it's a great idea to have a

4662
02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:41,439
um a master plan i i know that

4663
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:43,439
you know during the general plan we had

4664
02:59:41,439 --> 02:59:47,200
you know quite a bit of discussion about

4665
02:59:43,439 --> 02:59:49,600
arts but we uh you know we just kind of

4666
02:59:47,200 --> 02:59:50,960
generally took pictures of our parks and

4667
02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:54,080
so i think this is

4668
02:59:50,960 --> 02:59:56,640
uh definitely needed i have a

4669
02:59:54,080 --> 02:59:57,520
couple general questions for you sam

4670
02:59:56,640 --> 03:00:00,880
just to kind of hear

4671
02:59:57,520 --> 03:00:01,359
your reaction um because i think what

4672
03:00:00,880 --> 03:00:04,240
we're

4673
03:00:01,359 --> 03:00:04,800
hearing tonight about you know this is

4674
03:00:04,240 --> 03:00:07,359
going to be

4675
03:00:04,800 --> 03:00:07,920
high level it's not going to be granular

4676
03:00:07,359 --> 03:00:11,920
you know

4677
03:00:07,920 --> 03:00:15,279
maybe some residents didn't feel the

4678
03:00:11,920 --> 03:00:17,279
facilitator um you know

4679
03:00:15,279 --> 03:00:18,560
gave them what they wanted but maybe the

4680
03:00:17,279 --> 03:00:20,800
facilitator

4681
03:00:18,560 --> 03:00:21,680
you know did try to keep it at a higher

4682
03:00:20,800 --> 03:00:23,520
level so

4683
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:25,040
do you think it would so here's my first

4684
03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:26,319
question do you think it would be a

4685
03:00:25,040 --> 03:00:29,279
value

4686
03:00:26,319 --> 03:00:30,880
uh and maybe which part early on in the

4687
03:00:29,279 --> 03:00:34,160
in this process

4688
03:00:30,880 --> 03:00:36,240
for the council and

4689
03:00:34,160 --> 03:00:37,359
parks and rec commission to have a joint

4690
03:00:36,240 --> 03:00:40,479
meeting

4691
03:00:37,359 --> 03:00:42,800
um just so it would be kind of official

4692
03:00:40,479 --> 03:00:43,520
we could answer other questions and you

4693
03:00:42,800 --> 03:00:45,760
know

4694
03:00:43,520 --> 03:00:47,359
make sure that we are all on the same

4695
03:00:45,760 --> 03:00:48,240
page because i've also watched the parks

4696
03:00:47,359 --> 03:00:50,319
and rec

4697
03:00:48,240 --> 03:00:51,439
commission they really wanted our buy-in

4698
03:00:50,319 --> 03:00:54,800
so

4699
03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:57,840
do you see any value or not to

4700
03:00:54,800 --> 03:00:59,520
a joint meeting i think you know a joint

4701
03:00:57,840 --> 03:01:02,240
meeting is is a great

4702
03:00:59,520 --> 03:01:04,000
idea anyways i know michelle and steve

4703
03:01:02,240 --> 03:01:05,359
have discussed that you know trying to

4704
03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:06,720
do something annually with the

4705
03:01:05,359 --> 03:01:09,040
commissions but i think

4706
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:09,760
having that dialogue especially around

4707
03:01:09,040 --> 03:01:12,720
this kind of

4708
03:01:09,760 --> 03:01:14,000
an important process that again the town

4709
03:01:12,720 --> 03:01:16,479
has never done

4710
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:17,600
um i think would be really important as

4711
03:01:16,479 --> 03:01:20,160
far as everybody

4712
03:01:17,600 --> 03:01:21,760
discussing and making sure they're on

4713
03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:23,840
the same page as to

4714
03:01:21,760 --> 03:01:24,960
what the outcomes that you're hoping for

4715
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:27,040
are um

4716
03:01:24,960 --> 03:01:29,600
i built if you you know in the timeline

4717
03:01:27,040 --> 03:01:31,920
i've really built a lot of check-ins in

4718
03:01:29,600 --> 03:01:33,680
um as far as but that doesn't

4719
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:36,880
necessarily mean that

4720
03:01:33,680 --> 03:01:38,800
there is you know um whether you're

4721
03:01:36,880 --> 03:01:39,840
watching their meeting or you're they're

4722
03:01:38,800 --> 03:01:41,760
watching your meeting

4723
03:01:39,840 --> 03:01:43,439
you're not really having the chance to

4724
03:01:41,760 --> 03:01:46,000
discuss with each other

4725
03:01:43,439 --> 03:01:47,760
um you know there may as we evolve and

4726
03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:50,479
maybe that's good feedback for me

4727
03:01:47,760 --> 03:01:51,279
if you think you know i know you're all

4728
03:01:50,479 --> 03:01:54,000
meeting now

4729
03:01:51,279 --> 03:01:54,560
but if there is a desire to have you

4730
03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:57,120
know

4731
03:01:54,560 --> 03:01:58,880
council members and prac members you

4732
03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:00,960
know be appointed to

4733
03:01:58,880 --> 03:02:03,200
work on the process you know that's

4734
03:02:00,960 --> 03:02:05,840
something that we could discuss as well

4735
03:02:03,200 --> 03:02:06,960
um but my goal you know internally and

4736
03:02:05,840 --> 03:02:08,880
knowing how

4737
03:02:06,960 --> 03:02:10,960
how yonto works a little differently

4738
03:02:08,880 --> 03:02:12,080
than some other places is that those

4739
03:02:10,960 --> 03:02:14,960
kind of more

4740
03:02:12,080 --> 03:02:16,720
more um frequent check-ins are gonna

4741
03:02:14,960 --> 03:02:19,760
going to be important

4742
03:02:16,720 --> 03:02:22,479
during the process um and not just you

4743
03:02:19,760 --> 03:02:24,960
you know looking at the my outline and

4744
03:02:22,479 --> 03:02:26,399
then getting a final document to look at

4745
03:02:24,960 --> 03:02:28,080
you know i don't think that's gonna be

4746
03:02:26,399 --> 03:02:30,000
productive either so

4747
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:31,200
um but i definitely think a joint

4748
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:34,640
meeting would be

4749
03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:36,960
really beneficial okay so my

4750
03:02:34,640 --> 03:02:38,000
second question um it's kind of the

4751
03:02:36,960 --> 03:02:41,120
elephant uh

4752
03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:42,240
in the room the downfall elementary

4753
03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:44,880
school

4754
03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:46,960
property we have uh no idea i don't

4755
03:02:44,880 --> 03:02:50,560
think any of our crystal balls are

4756
03:02:46,960 --> 03:02:53,120
very clear on uh where that is going so

4757
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:55,200
would that be something that uh but i

4758
03:02:53,120 --> 03:02:57,040
know i've heard a lot of uh

4759
03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:58,479
um i won't even call them public

4760
03:02:57,040 --> 03:03:00,080
comments they're all rumors

4761
03:02:58,479 --> 03:03:01,920
oh i heard it's going to be this i heard

4762
03:03:00,080 --> 03:03:05,120
it's going to be that would

4763
03:03:01,920 --> 03:03:07,359
there be a

4764
03:03:05,120 --> 03:03:08,319
discussion about you know if this

4765
03:03:07,359 --> 03:03:11,120
happened we

4766
03:03:08,319 --> 03:03:12,000
you know something like this may happen

4767
03:03:11,120 --> 03:03:14,640
or do you think we should

4768
03:03:12,000 --> 03:03:17,439
just you know leave that totally out and

4769
03:03:14,640 --> 03:03:19,680
amend the report if something happens

4770
03:03:17,439 --> 03:03:20,800
i think you know we would be remiss to

4771
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:23,120
not at least

4772
03:03:20,800 --> 03:03:25,439
dive into it a little bit i mean knowing

4773
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:26,000
what is potentially on the horizon

4774
03:03:25,439 --> 03:03:28,479
obviously

4775
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:29,439
we're not able to say you know that it's

4776
03:03:28,479 --> 03:03:32,319
going to be

4777
03:03:29,439 --> 03:03:32,960
this or that but um you know that i

4778
03:03:32,319 --> 03:03:35,040
would see

4779
03:03:32,960 --> 03:03:37,120
as an opportunity you know when we

4780
03:03:35,040 --> 03:03:38,880
discuss you know strengths weaknesses

4781
03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:40,880
opportunities threats i would see that

4782
03:03:38,880 --> 03:03:42,399
as a potential opportunity on the

4783
03:03:40,880 --> 03:03:45,359
horizon and that

4784
03:03:42,399 --> 03:03:46,880
you know if the community did have um

4785
03:03:45,359 --> 03:03:50,319
open space or parks

4786
03:03:46,880 --> 03:03:52,479
as part of that transaction

4787
03:03:50,319 --> 03:03:54,240
what would they want to see what would

4788
03:03:52,479 --> 03:03:58,080
our residents want to see

4789
03:03:54,240 --> 03:04:00,479
um i think you know um

4790
03:03:58,080 --> 03:04:01,840
you know i it's so up in the air but i

4791
03:04:00,479 --> 03:04:02,399
think if we're gonna go through this

4792
03:04:01,840 --> 03:04:04,720
process

4793
03:04:02,399 --> 03:04:07,040
that is definitely identified as the

4794
03:04:04,720 --> 03:04:08,000
only place that we would have any type

4795
03:04:07,040 --> 03:04:10,640
of new park

4796
03:04:08,000 --> 03:04:12,479
development because we are our parks are

4797
03:04:10,640 --> 03:04:13,359
all built out they're all well

4798
03:04:12,479 --> 03:04:15,600
established

4799
03:04:13,359 --> 03:04:17,439
well maintained and just really on more

4800
03:04:15,600 --> 03:04:19,200
of a maintenance schedule at this point

4801
03:04:17,439 --> 03:04:20,560
that would be the only space that we

4802
03:04:19,200 --> 03:04:23,840
would have to discuss

4803
03:04:20,560 --> 03:04:26,000
type of future use so

4804
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:27,760
okay thanks those are my questions yes

4805
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:30,880
i'm in in support

4806
03:04:27,760 --> 03:04:31,920
of a master plan i know councilmember

4807
03:04:30,880 --> 03:04:33,760
knight has

4808
03:04:31,920 --> 03:04:36,160
been patiently waiting but steve did you

4809
03:04:33,760 --> 03:04:38,160
have a direct response to

4810
03:04:36,160 --> 03:04:39,359
something it was just said well what i

4811
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:41,920
wanted to share is

4812
03:04:39,359 --> 03:04:43,520
i strongly support the joint meetings

4813
03:04:41,920 --> 03:04:44,960
we've you know covet has been a

4814
03:04:43,520 --> 03:04:47,920
challenge but we have a

4815
03:04:44,960 --> 03:04:48,880
historic track record of the council and

4816
03:04:47,920 --> 03:04:51,120
our

4817
03:04:48,880 --> 03:04:51,920
boards having a joint meeting and i do

4818
03:04:51,120 --> 03:04:54,399
think

4819
03:04:51,920 --> 03:04:55,439
earlier in this discussion i support

4820
03:04:54,399 --> 03:04:57,040
director

4821
03:04:55,439 --> 03:04:58,640
holland's point that this would be a

4822
03:04:57,040 --> 03:05:00,560
great check-in as we're getting some of

4823
03:04:58,640 --> 03:05:03,279
the first legs under us

4824
03:05:00,560 --> 03:05:04,399
sharing it and presenting i'd also echo

4825
03:05:03,279 --> 03:05:06,720
that i don't think

4826
03:05:04,399 --> 03:05:09,120
you know the community would in would

4827
03:05:06,720 --> 03:05:09,760
consider a parks and rec discussion

4828
03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:13,040
process

4829
03:05:09,760 --> 03:05:14,880
valid uh without some acknowledgement of

4830
03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:16,160
yeonville elementary and at some point

4831
03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:19,040
in this process

4832
03:05:16,160 --> 03:05:20,080
we may know where the situation goes so

4833
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:23,279
i think a basic

4834
03:05:20,080 --> 03:05:25,520
understanding or what might we use it

4835
03:05:23,279 --> 03:05:26,720
is a logical question and then if we

4836
03:05:25,520 --> 03:05:29,920
know more

4837
03:05:26,720 --> 03:05:31,439
you know that that's it's not you know

4838
03:05:29,920 --> 03:05:33,279
we're going to have to it's going to

4839
03:05:31,439 --> 03:05:34,319
come up so i think we have to figure out

4840
03:05:33,279 --> 03:05:37,840
a way to

4841
03:05:34,319 --> 03:05:39,680
address it but we also you know may have

4842
03:05:37,840 --> 03:05:41,600
a a better point even

4843
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:42,800
if we know where the disposition goes at

4844
03:05:41,600 --> 03:05:45,840
that point in time

4845
03:05:42,800 --> 03:05:49,920
then we can respond to it in more detail

4846
03:05:45,840 --> 03:05:49,920
would be my general recommendation

4847
03:05:50,479 --> 03:05:54,479
yeah i think we have to be very careful

4848
03:05:52,640 --> 03:05:56,240
uh merging these two concepts

4849
03:05:54,479 --> 03:05:58,640
in a very different situation and

4850
03:05:56,240 --> 03:06:01,200
circumstances that are

4851
03:05:58,640 --> 03:06:02,800
happening with the negotiations and

4852
03:06:01,200 --> 03:06:03,600
conversations with the school district

4853
03:06:02,800 --> 03:06:07,200
so

4854
03:06:03,600 --> 03:06:10,240
i just throw out that caution um

4855
03:06:07,200 --> 03:06:13,520
i'll stop there um councilmember knight

4856
03:06:10,240 --> 03:06:16,080
thank you mayor um so

4857
03:06:13,520 --> 03:06:16,880
i support and we a few people talked i

4858
03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:19,359
support

4859
03:06:16,880 --> 03:06:20,640
um a joint meeting between council and

4860
03:06:19,359 --> 03:06:24,399
and prac

4861
03:06:20,640 --> 03:06:26,160
um but uh i think what i also

4862
03:06:24,399 --> 03:06:28,080
just want to also support i mean this

4863
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:30,479
the framing of this argument

4864
03:06:28,080 --> 03:06:32,000
that uh councilmember moeller said that

4865
03:06:30,479 --> 03:06:35,200
that we're really

4866
03:06:32,000 --> 03:06:38,000
i think discussing with the community

4867
03:06:35,200 --> 03:06:39,920
first a master plan we're we're looking

4868
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:40,800
at the uses we're looking we're looking

4869
03:06:39,920 --> 03:06:43,040
at a master

4870
03:06:40,800 --> 03:06:43,920
a big plan of the parks our paths and

4871
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:47,120
everything

4872
03:06:43,920 --> 03:06:48,479
and then um at some point just like we

4873
03:06:47,120 --> 03:06:50,240
finished our general plan and we're

4874
03:06:48,479 --> 03:06:52,319
moving to updates of the

4875
03:06:50,240 --> 03:06:53,359
zoning and design document that we moved

4876
03:06:52,319 --> 03:06:55,439
to a point

4877
03:06:53,359 --> 03:06:56,399
where it's more specific in strategic

4878
03:06:55,439 --> 03:06:59,760
planning

4879
03:06:56,399 --> 03:07:02,399
because you know i would

4880
03:06:59,760 --> 03:07:03,279
never discount any comment from any

4881
03:07:02,399 --> 03:07:05,200
resident

4882
03:07:03,279 --> 03:07:07,279
that is were is concerned about

4883
03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:10,240
particular bench here or there

4884
03:07:07,279 --> 03:07:11,840
i would just continue to talk to them

4885
03:07:10,240 --> 03:07:14,000
about the purpose of what we're doing

4886
03:07:11,840 --> 03:07:17,279
and encouraging their involvement

4887
03:07:14,000 --> 03:07:18,560
and uh um i you know i think it's

4888
03:07:17,279 --> 03:07:21,600
important to look at

4889
03:07:18,560 --> 03:07:24,800
like we talked a few months ago about a

4890
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:27,520
uh um a frequency and location

4891
03:07:24,800 --> 03:07:29,120
policy about special events and i think

4892
03:07:27,520 --> 03:07:30,960
that should at some point down the road

4893
03:07:29,120 --> 03:07:33,040
be part of a conversation

4894
03:07:30,960 --> 03:07:35,279
because there are events that for

4895
03:07:33,040 --> 03:07:38,640
example that the mayor supports and

4896
03:07:35,279 --> 03:07:40,240
and and uh that come to our community

4897
03:07:38,640 --> 03:07:43,439
and our use our parts

4898
03:07:40,240 --> 03:07:46,640
and these are valuable valley-wide

4899
03:07:43,439 --> 03:07:49,520
greater community-wide events that are

4900
03:07:46,640 --> 03:07:50,560
that um i'm glad that we sponsor and

4901
03:07:49,520 --> 03:07:52,399
that we participate

4902
03:07:50,560 --> 03:07:53,680
and that we're we're deeply involved in

4903
03:07:52,399 --> 03:07:56,800
these issues

4904
03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:57,120
and so uh um this i think all part of

4905
03:07:56,800 --> 03:07:59,040
this

4906
03:07:57,120 --> 03:08:00,160
this uh greater master plan and

4907
03:07:59,040 --> 03:08:02,319
strategic planning

4908
03:08:00,160 --> 03:08:04,000
and my last thing is that uh we've

4909
03:08:02,319 --> 03:08:04,800
talked about this i talk about this a

4910
03:08:04,000 --> 03:08:07,279
lot but

4911
03:08:04,800 --> 03:08:08,720
i know it's difficult about how we

4912
03:08:07,279 --> 03:08:10,319
approach the veterans home but the

4913
03:08:08,720 --> 03:08:11,359
veterans home is our largest

4914
03:08:10,319 --> 03:08:13,840
neighborhood

4915
03:08:11,359 --> 03:08:14,880
they have paths they have resources like

4916
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:17,920
a pool

4917
03:08:14,880 --> 03:08:19,680
and a museum that are important aspects

4918
03:08:17,920 --> 03:08:23,840
of our community and

4919
03:08:19,680 --> 03:08:26,160
please how that it's important i support

4920
03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:29,200
reaching out to them as best we can

4921
03:08:26,160 --> 03:08:31,520
or if it's maybe once the the facility

4922
03:08:29,200 --> 03:08:32,160
is open it's attending an allied council

4923
03:08:31,520 --> 03:08:35,200
meeting

4924
03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:35,520
and getting input that way um please do

4925
03:08:35,200 --> 03:08:37,680
that

4926
03:08:35,520 --> 03:08:38,640
and so thank you director holland for

4927
03:08:37,680 --> 03:08:42,720
your work and i

4928
03:08:38,640 --> 03:08:42,720
i support this effort

4929
03:08:43,439 --> 03:08:51,279
and i will repeat my caution about um

4930
03:08:48,080 --> 03:08:53,600
appreciating separation of authority

4931
03:08:51,279 --> 03:08:54,560
uh with the veterans home we do not

4932
03:08:53,600 --> 03:08:57,439
control

4933
03:08:54,560 --> 03:08:59,120
how the veterans home uses its property

4934
03:08:57,439 --> 03:09:00,840
we can certainly have conversations

4935
03:08:59,120 --> 03:09:04,080
about it

4936
03:09:00,840 --> 03:09:05,120
but we do not have the ability to tell

4937
03:09:04,080 --> 03:09:08,000
them to

4938
03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:08,960
build pathways or develop parks or other

4939
03:09:08,000 --> 03:09:12,000
services

4940
03:09:08,960 --> 03:09:15,040
that we might want to use it is

4941
03:09:12,000 --> 03:09:18,080
and they have repeatedly shown

4942
03:09:15,040 --> 03:09:20,960
that they know they have complete

4943
03:09:18,080 --> 03:09:22,239
uh control over the property so i don't

4944
03:09:20,960 --> 03:09:25,520
want it to

4945
03:09:22,239 --> 03:09:27,680
be misleading to our residents who might

4946
03:09:25,520 --> 03:09:29,439
start coming up with

4947
03:09:27,680 --> 03:09:31,200
visions of what might happen at the

4948
03:09:29,439 --> 03:09:32,640
vet's home when we don't have the

4949
03:09:31,200 --> 03:09:35,920
authority or jurisdiction

4950
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:38,000
to execute on any of it so

4951
03:09:35,920 --> 03:09:39,920
there there is a process and a place for

4952
03:09:38,000 --> 03:09:41,120
it i also don't know that it's at the

4953
03:09:39,920 --> 03:09:42,560
allied council

4954
03:09:41,120 --> 03:09:45,359
because the allied council is an

4955
03:09:42,560 --> 03:09:48,399
advisory council to the administration

4956
03:09:45,359 --> 03:09:50,720
the administration goes to sacramento

4957
03:09:48,399 --> 03:09:52,479
and the leadership there we need to

4958
03:09:50,720 --> 03:09:55,600
follow the proper

4959
03:09:52,479 --> 03:09:57,439
protocols with that kind of outreach i

4960
03:09:55,600 --> 03:09:58,080
don't know that it's appropriate for us

4961
03:09:57,439 --> 03:10:01,200
in our

4962
03:09:58,080 --> 03:10:04,479
park and rec master plan process to

4963
03:10:01,200 --> 03:10:07,840
add in jurisdictions that we don't have

4964
03:10:04,479 --> 03:10:08,319
authority over so i'll just put that out

4965
03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:10,960
there

4966
03:10:08,319 --> 03:10:11,680
we could certainly look into if they

4967
03:10:10,960 --> 03:10:14,399
would be

4968
03:10:11,680 --> 03:10:16,080
welcoming and inviting to ideas then

4969
03:10:14,399 --> 03:10:17,680
that's a different conversation

4970
03:10:16,080 --> 03:10:19,439
but we don't control the pool we don't

4971
03:10:17,680 --> 03:10:20,800
control the museum the lincoln theater

4972
03:10:19,439 --> 03:10:23,920
the ball field

4973
03:10:20,800 --> 03:10:26,800
uh any of that so um

4974
03:10:23,920 --> 03:10:28,960
with that mayor to your point i think

4975
03:10:26,800 --> 03:10:30,720
director holland and i can reach out at

4976
03:10:28,960 --> 03:10:31,920
appropriate times with the veterans home

4977
03:10:30,720 --> 03:10:34,239
administration

4978
03:10:31,920 --> 03:10:35,359
let them know what we're doing so that

4979
03:10:34,239 --> 03:10:37,200
they're aware

4980
03:10:35,359 --> 03:10:38,800
and you know check in with them and see

4981
03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:39,760
because i do think you're correct we do

4982
03:10:38,800 --> 03:10:42,960
need to

4983
03:10:39,760 --> 03:10:44,720
be respectful of that um but at least we

4984
03:10:42,960 --> 03:10:46,479
can say hey here's what we're doing do

4985
03:10:44,720 --> 03:10:47,040
you have anything at your level you'd

4986
03:10:46,479 --> 03:10:49,279
like

4987
03:10:47,040 --> 03:10:50,960
to contribute or you know keep them

4988
03:10:49,279 --> 03:10:53,920
posted as to where we go

4989
03:10:50,960 --> 03:10:55,920
yeah they have their own long-term

4990
03:10:53,920 --> 03:11:00,640
master plan process that they're

4991
03:10:55,920 --> 03:11:03,279
also evaluating and working through so

4992
03:11:00,640 --> 03:11:04,239
i think on that note too is just um that

4993
03:11:03,279 --> 03:11:06,399
we will of course

4994
03:11:04,239 --> 03:11:07,439
reach out and try to engage the veterans

4995
03:11:06,399 --> 03:11:08,960
as residents of

4996
03:11:07,439 --> 03:11:10,880
you know yonko although they live at the

4997
03:11:08,960 --> 03:11:13,680
veterans home to be involved in

4998
03:11:10,880 --> 03:11:15,920
our process if they have input as well

4999
03:11:13,680 --> 03:11:18,560
if they utilize our resources so

5000
03:11:15,920 --> 03:11:20,800
um that is something on the list

5001
03:11:18,560 --> 03:11:23,600
absolutely and we've always

5002
03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:25,200
welcomed that engagement and i think

5003
03:11:23,600 --> 03:11:27,279
that's completely appropriate

5004
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:29,040
i just caution about setting false

5005
03:11:27,279 --> 03:11:32,640
expectations of what we

5006
03:11:29,040 --> 03:11:34,479
can and cannot execute on

5007
03:11:32,640 --> 03:11:37,520
in the future but what i wanted to get

5008
03:11:34,479 --> 03:11:39,600
to is

5009
03:11:37,520 --> 03:11:40,800
i've already shared my thoughts about

5010
03:11:39,600 --> 03:11:43,279
the timing of this and i'm

5011
03:11:40,800 --> 03:11:44,560
certainly going to support samantha and

5012
03:11:43,279 --> 03:11:46,080
and your plan

5013
03:11:44,560 --> 03:11:47,680
but what i hope we can get from our

5014
03:11:46,080 --> 03:11:49,760
residents is

5015
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:50,880
what's really sometimes challenging and

5016
03:11:49,760 --> 03:11:52,720
we saw it

5017
03:11:50,880 --> 03:11:56,000
play out with our general plan process

5018
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:58,800
and we've seen it with some other things

5019
03:11:56,000 --> 03:12:01,760
in the last few years even our community

5020
03:11:58,800 --> 03:12:05,040
center back in 2008 and nine

5021
03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:07,920
where there some of our residents

5022
03:12:05,040 --> 03:12:09,040
saw it as completely unnecessary and uh

5023
03:12:07,920 --> 03:12:11,680
too expensive and

5024
03:12:09,040 --> 03:12:12,319
we didn't need it and what i hope people

5025
03:12:11,680 --> 03:12:15,680
can do

5026
03:12:12,319 --> 03:12:18,800
is have a vision for young phil that

5027
03:12:15,680 --> 03:12:19,840
might actually go beyond our time here

5028
03:12:18,800 --> 03:12:20,880
in young phil

5029
03:12:19,840 --> 03:12:23,680
that's what we had to do with our

5030
03:12:20,880 --> 03:12:25,279
general plan this is not a five year

5031
03:12:23,680 --> 03:12:26,960
three to five year general plan this is

5032
03:12:25,279 --> 03:12:30,560
a 20 year general plan

5033
03:12:26,960 --> 03:12:33,680
i think we need to look at all of our

5034
03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:34,319
long term strategic planning the same

5035
03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:36,800
way

5036
03:12:34,319 --> 03:12:38,399
i know that some people only care about

5037
03:12:36,800 --> 03:12:40,399
what matters to them

5038
03:12:38,399 --> 03:12:41,680
but we can't look at it that way we have

5039
03:12:40,399 --> 03:12:44,800
to look at it

5040
03:12:41,680 --> 03:12:47,120
community-wide and also generational

5041
03:12:44,800 --> 03:12:48,560
wide we hear people why aren't young

5042
03:12:47,120 --> 03:12:51,120
families here well

5043
03:12:48,560 --> 03:12:54,239
think about what's available to them and

5044
03:12:51,120 --> 03:12:56,080
are we serving those needs

5045
03:12:54,239 --> 03:12:58,399
seniors i think we have a lot of

5046
03:12:56,080 --> 03:13:01,600
coverage with the interests

5047
03:12:58,399 --> 03:13:04,160
for our senior population

5048
03:13:01,600 --> 03:13:05,200
i'm not so sure that we're doing all we

5049
03:13:04,160 --> 03:13:07,200
can to

5050
03:13:05,200 --> 03:13:08,319
attract uh younger families with

5051
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:11,600
activities

5052
03:13:08,319 --> 03:13:13,680
so i hope that people will you know

5053
03:13:11,600 --> 03:13:14,720
i don't know the exact terminology of

5054
03:13:13,680 --> 03:13:16,239
the

5055
03:13:14,720 --> 03:13:17,840
of the saying and i'll butcher it

5056
03:13:16,239 --> 03:13:18,880
unfortunately but it's it's about

5057
03:13:17,840 --> 03:13:22,239
planting a tree but

5058
03:13:18,880 --> 03:13:24,319
never expecting to enjoy the shade

5059
03:13:22,239 --> 03:13:26,640
and i apologize to whomever it was that

5060
03:13:24,319 --> 03:13:29,200
wrote it much more eloquently than that

5061
03:13:26,640 --> 03:13:30,239
but we do need to have a vision for the

5062
03:13:29,200 --> 03:13:33,680
future

5063
03:13:30,239 --> 03:13:36,960
and i fully embrace that

5064
03:13:33,680 --> 03:13:38,880
what i hope we don't see is

5065
03:13:36,960 --> 03:13:40,319
people just limiting their ideas to what

5066
03:13:38,880 --> 03:13:43,279
they want to do in the next

5067
03:13:40,319 --> 03:13:44,000
one two three five years because it's on

5068
03:13:43,279 --> 03:13:48,479
us

5069
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:51,520
to think more forward than that so

5070
03:13:48,479 --> 03:13:52,560
that's the way i think we have done a

5071
03:13:51,520 --> 03:13:55,359
lot of things and i think

5072
03:13:52,560 --> 03:13:56,720
our park and rec use and the activities

5073
03:13:55,359 --> 03:13:59,120
that we want to promote

5074
03:13:56,720 --> 03:13:59,920
fall into that same category what i also

5075
03:13:59,120 --> 03:14:02,080
want to just

5076
03:13:59,920 --> 03:14:04,319
offer up and this is just because

5077
03:14:02,080 --> 03:14:08,080
sometimes we get really complacent with

5078
03:14:04,319 --> 03:14:08,800
status quo we there's a lot of pressure

5079
03:14:08,080 --> 03:14:12,160
coming

5080
03:14:08,800 --> 03:14:15,680
from sacramento and you know just

5081
03:14:12,160 --> 03:14:17,840
in general for housing and for

5082
03:14:15,680 --> 03:14:19,439
affordability and other things that we

5083
03:14:17,840 --> 03:14:23,520
don't currently have

5084
03:14:19,439 --> 03:14:27,600
in town we have an amazing

5085
03:14:23,520 --> 03:14:29,920
park system and wonderful park space

5086
03:14:27,600 --> 03:14:32,319
there may be a time when we cannot hold

5087
03:14:29,920 --> 03:14:34,080
on to all of our park space

5088
03:14:32,319 --> 03:14:36,880
and that needs to be part of the vision

5089
03:14:34,080 --> 03:14:39,279
and conversation i think about

5090
03:14:36,880 --> 03:14:40,000
what if and i'm not saying that any

5091
03:14:39,279 --> 03:14:41,359
spaces

5092
03:14:40,000 --> 03:14:43,040
you know open space is going away but we

5093
03:14:41,359 --> 03:14:44,960
need to recognize that

5094
03:14:43,040 --> 03:14:46,560
we have to have that kind of open mind

5095
03:14:44,960 --> 03:14:49,680
and vision so

5096
03:14:46,560 --> 03:14:51,760
um we have a great

5097
03:14:49,680 --> 03:14:53,279
amount of open space that is fantastic

5098
03:14:51,760 --> 03:14:55,439
one of the best things about our

5099
03:14:53,279 --> 03:14:57,040
community just like our path system but

5100
03:14:55,439 --> 03:15:00,399
i hope that we bring

5101
03:14:57,040 --> 03:15:03,200
that open a mind to this process

5102
03:15:00,399 --> 03:15:05,120
and and have it include conversations

5103
03:15:03,200 --> 03:15:07,600
that might sometimes be a little bit

5104
03:15:05,120 --> 03:15:08,800
uncomfortable like what will happen with

5105
03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:10,080
the youngfield elementary school

5106
03:15:08,800 --> 03:15:13,040
property

5107
03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:14,080
i caution that we open that up to all

5108
03:15:13,040 --> 03:15:18,880
people to this

5109
03:15:14,080 --> 03:15:22,720
to discuss because a very small

5110
03:15:18,880 --> 03:15:25,279
contingent of us are having to have very

5111
03:15:22,720 --> 03:15:26,560
frank and challenging conversations with

5112
03:15:25,279 --> 03:15:28,160
the school district

5113
03:15:26,560 --> 03:15:30,000
about the future of that site and it

5114
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:32,000
could get complicated there will be a

5115
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:34,560
time when it's absolutely appropriate

5116
03:15:32,000 --> 03:15:36,640
i hope it's soon um matter of fact the

5117
03:15:34,560 --> 03:15:39,120
vice mayor and i are meeting with

5118
03:15:36,640 --> 03:15:40,000
school officials on wednesday to further

5119
03:15:39,120 --> 03:15:43,120
the conversation

5120
03:15:40,000 --> 03:15:44,479
but um i'm speaking in kind of broad

5121
03:15:43,120 --> 03:15:46,080
generalities because i think we have to

5122
03:15:44,479 --> 03:15:48,000
have that kind of a vision

5123
03:15:46,080 --> 03:15:50,160
doesn't mean that we can't figure out

5124
03:15:48,000 --> 03:15:52,319
where does bench 12 go

5125
03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:53,520
at some point in the process but i hope

5126
03:15:52,319 --> 03:15:56,720
that we have

5127
03:15:53,520 --> 03:16:00,080
a broader perspective than that

5128
03:15:56,720 --> 03:16:03,359
thank you so with that

5129
03:16:00,080 --> 03:16:05,600
um you need a motion to

5130
03:16:03,359 --> 03:16:07,359
uh no we'll talk about it in the budget

5131
03:16:05,600 --> 03:16:08,720
tomorrow for the 15k

5132
03:16:07,359 --> 03:16:10,319
yeah we'll talk about it in the budget

5133
03:16:08,720 --> 03:16:12,479
but this was really beneficial i

5134
03:16:10,319 --> 03:16:13,359
appreciate all of your time and feedback

5135
03:16:12,479 --> 03:16:15,680
and thoughtfulness

5136
03:16:13,359 --> 03:16:17,600
and um i will be reporting that back to

5137
03:16:15,680 --> 03:16:18,560
the p-rack hopefully some of them are

5138
03:16:17,600 --> 03:16:22,160
watching

5139
03:16:18,560 --> 03:16:25,600
um and then we'll bring um the budget

5140
03:16:22,160 --> 03:16:27,840
request tomorrow and keep you very much

5141
03:16:25,600 --> 03:16:29,040
engaged as we move forward thank you

5142
03:16:27,840 --> 03:16:32,239
yeah i i

5143
03:16:29,040 --> 03:16:33,600
i know you heard uh universal support

5144
03:16:32,239 --> 03:16:36,399
for the plan

5145
03:16:33,600 --> 03:16:37,040
and so we look forward to drilling down

5146
03:16:36,399 --> 03:16:38,160
on it

5147
03:16:37,040 --> 03:16:40,160
even further with the budget

5148
03:16:38,160 --> 03:16:41,200
conversation and then moving forward so

5149
03:16:40,160 --> 03:16:44,640
thank you

5150
03:16:41,200 --> 03:16:45,120
thank you okay you've heard enough for

5151
03:16:44,640 --> 03:16:46,880
me for

5152
03:16:45,120 --> 03:16:48,960
the next few minutes at least let's

5153
03:16:46,880 --> 03:16:51,040
let's hear from my i was looking

5154
03:16:48,960 --> 03:16:52,640
for uh i guess cecilia you're going to

5155
03:16:51,040 --> 03:16:55,359
handle this right

5156
03:16:52,640 --> 03:16:56,560
our net our staff info report on our

5157
03:16:55,359 --> 03:16:59,760
monthly financials

5158
03:16:56,560 --> 03:17:00,239
kyle's pal's not here tonight no he is

5159
03:16:59,760 --> 03:17:03,040
not

5160
03:17:00,239 --> 03:17:03,520
so it is my turn tonight thank you uh

5161
03:17:03,040 --> 03:17:05,840
mayor

5162
03:17:03,520 --> 03:17:07,600
and good evening to you and the council

5163
03:17:05,840 --> 03:17:08,560
just want to make sure you can hear me

5164
03:17:07,600 --> 03:17:10,319
okay

5165
03:17:08,560 --> 03:17:12,000
yes you froze for a moment but we could

5166
03:17:10,319 --> 03:17:14,160
keep hearing you throughout so

5167
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:15,920
yeah and you're back my video is

5168
03:17:14,160 --> 03:17:18,160
misbehaving so it'll probably

5169
03:17:15,920 --> 03:17:21,200
um maybe freeze at an awkward time but

5170
03:17:18,160 --> 03:17:22,880
that's okay we'll just move forward

5171
03:17:21,200 --> 03:17:25,200
feel free to turn that off if you feel

5172
03:17:22,880 --> 03:17:25,680
like that preserves your audio better

5173
03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:27,359
that's

5174
03:17:25,680 --> 03:17:29,200
quite all right i'll just look at

5175
03:17:27,359 --> 03:17:31,520
someone else's tile

5176
03:17:29,200 --> 03:17:33,359
okay so quick look back at activity

5177
03:17:31,520 --> 03:17:36,399
through march 2021

5178
03:17:33,359 --> 03:17:38,000
which represents 75 of the current

5179
03:17:36,399 --> 03:17:40,160
fiscal year

5180
03:17:38,000 --> 03:17:41,040
two of our main general fund revenue

5181
03:17:40,160 --> 03:17:43,279
sources which

5182
03:17:41,040 --> 03:17:44,160
are sales tax and transient occupancy

5183
03:17:43,279 --> 03:17:46,720
tax

5184
03:17:44,160 --> 03:17:47,200
still show lower than normal collections

5185
03:17:46,720 --> 03:17:50,319
and this

5186
03:17:47,200 --> 03:17:52,399
is due to the impacts of covid19

5187
03:17:50,319 --> 03:17:54,560
while this trend will continue through

5188
03:17:52,399 --> 03:17:56,960
the remainder of the fiscal year

5189
03:17:54,560 --> 03:17:59,600
more recent information does point to

5190
03:17:56,960 --> 03:18:03,439
positive trends as revenue collections

5191
03:17:59,600 --> 03:18:03,439
seem to be slowly increasing

5192
03:18:03,680 --> 03:18:08,239
all but one general fund departments are

5193
03:18:06,319 --> 03:18:10,720
within the 75 percent

5194
03:18:08,239 --> 03:18:12,239
of budget range the one exception is the

5195
03:18:10,720 --> 03:18:14,720
yachtville arts department

5196
03:18:12,239 --> 03:18:16,640
and this is due to the unanticipated

5197
03:18:14,720 --> 03:18:20,000
artist commission expenses

5198
03:18:16,640 --> 03:18:22,560
related to art sales but this is offset

5199
03:18:20,000 --> 03:18:24,239
by town revenue collected from those

5200
03:18:22,560 --> 03:18:27,600
sales

5201
03:18:24,239 --> 03:18:30,399
many capital projects were underway

5202
03:18:27,600 --> 03:18:31,359
and or nearing completion by march both

5203
03:18:30,399 --> 03:18:33,359
in fund 50

5204
03:18:31,359 --> 03:18:34,640
and in the utility enterprise capital

5205
03:18:33,359 --> 03:18:37,359
funds

5206
03:18:34,640 --> 03:18:39,359
most utility enterprise fund revenues

5207
03:18:37,359 --> 03:18:40,319
are slightly higher than we would expect

5208
03:18:39,359 --> 03:18:42,880
at this point

5209
03:18:40,319 --> 03:18:43,680
which will help to positively offset the

5210
03:18:42,880 --> 03:18:46,319
fact that

5211
03:18:43,680 --> 03:18:48,640
water purchases from the veterans home

5212
03:18:46,319 --> 03:18:51,760
reflected in the water utility

5213
03:18:48,640 --> 03:18:53,200
fund 61 are a bit high at this point and

5214
03:18:51,760 --> 03:18:56,239
that is based on our

5215
03:18:53,200 --> 03:18:58,000
uh current estimated costs and um just

5216
03:18:56,239 --> 03:18:59,520
to touch on that a little bit you

5217
03:18:58,000 --> 03:19:01,920
as you know when at the time of

5218
03:18:59,520 --> 03:19:04,000
budgeting um it's kind of a best guess

5219
03:19:01,920 --> 03:19:06,960
situation for water costs

5220
03:19:04,000 --> 03:19:09,200
and then we get more of an actual cost

5221
03:19:06,960 --> 03:19:12,560
after the fiscal year ends so around

5222
03:19:09,200 --> 03:19:15,439
july august just a few

5223
03:19:12,560 --> 03:19:16,720
uh other reminders we do have a combined

5224
03:19:15,439 --> 03:19:19,760
1.2 million

5225
03:19:16,720 --> 03:19:21,760
in the general fund in the assigned for

5226
03:19:19,760 --> 03:19:22,880
budget contingency and the unassigned

5227
03:19:21,760 --> 03:19:24,960
fund balance

5228
03:19:22,880 --> 03:19:27,840
that will help the town deal with

5229
03:19:24,960 --> 03:19:31,200
revenue shortfalls this fiscal year

5230
03:19:27,840 --> 03:19:33,760
and we have not yet yet used any of the

5231
03:19:31,200 --> 03:19:35,920
revenue stabilization reserve funds

5232
03:19:33,760 --> 03:19:37,040
since that will not happen until we end

5233
03:19:35,920 --> 03:19:38,800
the fiscal year

5234
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:41,120
and then determine the amount of

5235
03:19:38,800 --> 03:19:43,600
expenditures over revenues

5236
03:19:41,120 --> 03:19:44,720
so as as you will see also tomorrow in

5237
03:19:43,600 --> 03:19:47,600
the budget workshop

5238
03:19:44,720 --> 03:19:49,680
we do feel optimistic that the amount of

5239
03:19:47,600 --> 03:19:50,880
revenue stabilization reserve funds that

5240
03:19:49,680 --> 03:19:52,960
will be needed

5241
03:19:50,880 --> 03:19:55,840
is substantially less than originally

5242
03:19:52,960 --> 03:19:58,239
predicted so that is some very good news

5243
03:19:55,840 --> 03:19:59,120
um looks like my video froze at a good

5244
03:19:58,239 --> 03:20:01,439
spot so that's

5245
03:19:59,120 --> 03:20:02,160
also some good news are there any

5246
03:20:01,439 --> 03:20:05,600
questions

5247
03:20:02,160 --> 03:20:05,600
from the council that i can answer

5248
03:20:05,840 --> 03:20:08,880
we'll just have a virtual background for

5249
03:20:07,920 --> 03:20:10,960
you up there

5250
03:20:08,880 --> 03:20:14,880
to you there you are any questions of

5251
03:20:10,960 --> 03:20:17,680
the financial report

5252
03:20:14,880 --> 03:20:18,880
so thorough thank you very much i still

5253
03:20:17,680 --> 03:20:21,200
find it amazing

5254
03:20:18,880 --> 03:20:22,640
that we have any money coming in at all

5255
03:20:21,200 --> 03:20:25,840
frankly

5256
03:20:22,640 --> 03:20:28,880
we're very fortunate we are thank you

5257
03:20:25,840 --> 03:20:33,840
thank you okay

5258
03:20:28,880 --> 03:20:36,000
next step council meeting reports etc

5259
03:20:33,840 --> 03:20:36,880
i'll quickly touch on today's napa

5260
03:20:36,000 --> 03:20:39,279
county flood control

5261
03:20:36,880 --> 03:20:42,080
water conservation district meeting we

5262
03:20:39,279 --> 03:20:44,560
received a report on the 2020-2021

5263
03:20:42,080 --> 03:20:46,080
napa river watershed maintenance and

5264
03:20:44,560 --> 03:20:49,200
management program

5265
03:20:46,080 --> 03:20:52,000
saw some slides of some significant

5266
03:20:49,200 --> 03:20:53,200
restoration projects that have happened

5267
03:20:52,000 --> 03:20:56,319
up and down the valley

5268
03:20:53,200 --> 03:20:57,760
with the napa river we also had a water

5269
03:20:56,319 --> 03:21:01,040
supply uh

5270
03:20:57,760 --> 03:21:04,160
presentation for the county

5271
03:21:01,040 --> 03:21:05,920
uh state water project update

5272
03:21:04,160 --> 03:21:08,800
they reported just over 22 inches of

5273
03:21:05,920 --> 03:21:12,720
rainfall this year

5274
03:21:08,800 --> 03:21:13,279
pretty dry and i mentioned earlier about

5275
03:21:12,720 --> 03:21:17,120
the

5276
03:21:13,279 --> 03:21:19,200
reservation reservoir levels in storage

5277
03:21:17,120 --> 03:21:20,399
so oroville reservoir the largest in the

5278
03:21:19,200 --> 03:21:23,359
state is

5279
03:21:20,399 --> 03:21:26,800
under 50 capacity and that's causing

5280
03:21:23,359 --> 03:21:26,800
great concerns statewide

5281
03:21:27,040 --> 03:21:30,800
let's see other thoughts here we talked

5282
03:21:29,520 --> 03:21:34,640
about the

5283
03:21:30,800 --> 03:21:39,200
link berryessa about 70 capacity rector

5284
03:21:34,640 --> 03:21:42,560
between 60 and 65 capacity

5285
03:21:39,200 --> 03:21:44,239
those were some of the challenging

5286
03:21:42,560 --> 03:21:47,040
updates that we were receiving we all

5287
03:21:44,239 --> 03:21:48,960
knew it just when you hear it

5288
03:21:47,040 --> 03:21:51,120
that explicit sometimes it's a little

5289
03:21:48,960 --> 03:21:52,640
bit jarring

5290
03:21:51,120 --> 03:21:55,040
so we're all hoping that we get some

5291
03:21:52,640 --> 03:21:57,359
kind of rain at some point

5292
03:21:55,040 --> 03:21:59,040
uh next up uh nap valley transportation

5293
03:21:57,359 --> 03:22:00,319
authority uh vice mayor do you want to

5294
03:21:59,040 --> 03:22:03,840
report out on that

5295
03:22:00,319 --> 03:22:05,840
yes thank you we met on april 21st

5296
03:22:03,840 --> 03:22:07,760
some of the highlights there was a

5297
03:22:05,840 --> 03:22:10,399
webinar held by senators

5298
03:22:07,760 --> 03:22:11,760
don and mcguire on plans to assist

5299
03:22:10,399 --> 03:22:15,840
traffic flow along

5300
03:22:11,760 --> 03:22:19,279
uh state route 37 between napa and marin

5301
03:22:15,840 --> 03:22:20,239
200 participants so that was well

5302
03:22:19,279 --> 03:22:22,720
received

5303
03:22:20,239 --> 03:22:25,359
we uh increased the scope of our legal

5304
03:22:22,720 --> 03:22:28,000
counsel to finalize the last piece

5305
03:22:25,359 --> 03:22:29,680
of our um funding for the sasebo

5306
03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:33,279
junction project

5307
03:22:29,680 --> 03:22:35,279
we had a review of the

5308
03:22:33,279 --> 03:22:37,200
fourth of the recent quarter for the

5309
03:22:35,279 --> 03:22:38,000
vine transit that was some interesting

5310
03:22:37,200 --> 03:22:40,160
data

5311
03:22:38,000 --> 03:22:41,840
it is on the website i would um if

5312
03:22:40,160 --> 03:22:44,960
you're interested at all it's

5313
03:22:41,840 --> 03:22:47,279
it's pretty interesting um

5314
03:22:44,960 --> 03:22:48,080
we did change up some routes we have

5315
03:22:47,279 --> 03:22:50,080
been doing all

5316
03:22:48,080 --> 03:22:51,359
on demand in a certain portion of napa

5317
03:22:50,080 --> 03:22:54,160
we've now added two

5318
03:22:51,359 --> 03:22:54,560
fixed local routes in the city of napa

5319
03:22:54,160 --> 03:22:56,479
uh

5320
03:22:54,560 --> 03:22:57,840
continuing the on demand but we believe

5321
03:22:56,479 --> 03:23:00,080
it will decrease

5322
03:22:57,840 --> 03:23:02,880
and i think that those routes go live

5323
03:23:00,080 --> 03:23:06,800
may 9th i'm not sure but i believe that

5324
03:23:02,880 --> 03:23:09,920
is the case we did um after a review

5325
03:23:06,800 --> 03:23:12,399
of our executive director did award a

5326
03:23:09,920 --> 03:23:13,920
salary increase and i think mayor you

5327
03:23:12,399 --> 03:23:16,960
want to may want to speak a little bit

5328
03:23:13,920 --> 03:23:19,359
more to this but we did designate

5329
03:23:16,960 --> 03:23:21,040
a potential roundabout projects on state

5330
03:23:19,359 --> 03:23:24,560
highway 29

5331
03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:26,319
for the possibility of a federal grant

5332
03:23:24,560 --> 03:23:29,520
we may not get the money

5333
03:23:26,319 --> 03:23:31,439
the projects are not written in stone by

5334
03:23:29,520 --> 03:23:32,399
any means but i think mayor you may have

5335
03:23:31,439 --> 03:23:35,600
a little

5336
03:23:32,399 --> 03:23:36,720
more insight into that sure just a

5337
03:23:35,600 --> 03:23:38,960
reminder that

5338
03:23:36,720 --> 03:23:40,319
this came up uh at least a couple months

5339
03:23:38,960 --> 03:23:41,920
ago now i think

5340
03:23:40,319 --> 03:23:43,600
the metropolitan transportation

5341
03:23:41,920 --> 03:23:47,279
commission uh

5342
03:23:43,600 --> 03:23:50,560
with their kind of call for projects

5343
03:23:47,279 --> 03:23:51,439
napa county included three up valley

5344
03:23:50,560 --> 03:23:55,040
roundabouts

5345
03:23:51,439 --> 03:23:56,960
as potential projects for funding

5346
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:59,279
if the projects aren't on the list they

5347
03:23:56,960 --> 03:24:02,160
do not qualify for funding and so

5348
03:23:59,279 --> 03:24:04,319
they included rutherford all three on

5349
03:24:02,160 --> 03:24:07,439
highway 29 one at rutherford cross

5350
03:24:04,319 --> 03:24:11,120
one at oakville cross and one at

5351
03:24:07,439 --> 03:24:13,680
madison and no these are not

5352
03:24:11,120 --> 03:24:14,640
final as the vice mayor just said no

5353
03:24:13,680 --> 03:24:18,479
they're not designed

5354
03:24:14,640 --> 03:24:20,319
no they don't exist yet but

5355
03:24:18,479 --> 03:24:23,120
if they were not put on the list as

5356
03:24:20,319 --> 03:24:26,560
projects they could not be available for

5357
03:24:23,120 --> 03:24:27,760
the commitment of funding so supervisor

5358
03:24:26,560 --> 03:24:30,800
pedroza

5359
03:24:27,760 --> 03:24:32,319
as the chair of mtc now and our

5360
03:24:30,800 --> 03:24:35,520
representative

5361
03:24:32,319 --> 03:24:37,520
managed to negotiate about 20 million

5362
03:24:35,520 --> 03:24:38,319
dollars of potential funding for napa

5363
03:24:37,520 --> 03:24:40,479
county

5364
03:24:38,319 --> 03:24:41,920
significant given the size of our county

5365
03:24:40,479 --> 03:24:45,200
versus all the others in

5366
03:24:41,920 --> 03:24:48,479
mtc's jurisdiction and so

5367
03:24:45,200 --> 03:24:50,560
we want to put to

5368
03:24:48,479 --> 03:24:51,600
good use as much of those dollars as we

5369
03:24:50,560 --> 03:24:55,200
actually end up

5370
03:24:51,600 --> 03:24:57,520
being able to to use so

5371
03:24:55,200 --> 03:24:58,720
they have not prioritized which of those

5372
03:24:57,520 --> 03:25:02,000
three locations

5373
03:24:58,720 --> 03:25:03,040
might be first but it would take a lot

5374
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:06,880
of public

5375
03:25:03,040 --> 03:25:09,279
outreach public meetings conversations

5376
03:25:06,880 --> 03:25:10,880
about the pros and cons so this is not a

5377
03:25:09,279 --> 03:25:12,800
done deal

5378
03:25:10,880 --> 03:25:14,800
there is no guarantee there's going to

5379
03:25:12,800 --> 03:25:15,279
be a roundabout at madison at highway 29

5380
03:25:14,800 --> 03:25:18,239
so

5381
03:25:15,279 --> 03:25:19,760
please no one take that away from this

5382
03:25:18,239 --> 03:25:22,160
conversation so

5383
03:25:19,760 --> 03:25:24,720
if they weren't on the list they could

5384
03:25:22,160 --> 03:25:28,319
not qualify in the future

5385
03:25:24,720 --> 03:25:30,880
if we in fact decide that that's a

5386
03:25:28,319 --> 03:25:31,359
viable and valid project so hopefully

5387
03:25:30,880 --> 03:25:34,560
that's

5388
03:25:31,359 --> 03:25:36,560
summary norma thank you normally i

5389
03:25:34,560 --> 03:25:38,239
wouldn't include this but since it has

5390
03:25:36,560 --> 03:25:39,680
been in the press and we have gotten

5391
03:25:38,239 --> 03:25:42,160
resident questions

5392
03:25:39,680 --> 03:25:43,680
i wanted you to be able to hear the

5393
03:25:42,160 --> 03:25:48,000
facts of the matter

5394
03:25:43,680 --> 03:25:50,560
from the mayor who has

5395
03:25:48,000 --> 03:25:53,680
had his finger on this pulse for quite

5396
03:25:50,560 --> 03:25:53,680
some time so thank you

5397
03:25:54,239 --> 03:25:57,760
thank you upper valley waste management

5398
03:25:56,960 --> 03:26:00,880
authority

5399
03:25:57,760 --> 03:26:05,520
councilmember mohler um thank you

5400
03:26:00,880 --> 03:26:10,000
samuel mute we met um

5401
03:26:05,520 --> 03:26:10,960
may 19th had a discussion on policies

5402
03:26:10,000 --> 03:26:12,960
but i'll

5403
03:26:10,960 --> 03:26:14,479
save everybody the excitement of that

5404
03:26:12,960 --> 03:26:16,399
discussion i know we all like to talk

5405
03:26:14,479 --> 03:26:20,160
about policies so

5406
03:26:16,399 --> 03:26:23,479
um we heard a presentation

5407
03:26:20,160 --> 03:26:26,080
about the possibility of a

5408
03:26:23,479 --> 03:26:29,040
biogasification

5409
03:26:26,080 --> 03:26:29,600
facility a bed perhaps clover flat

5410
03:26:29,040 --> 03:26:32,880
nothing

5411
03:26:29,600 --> 03:26:33,520
has really been there's no specifics

5412
03:26:32,880 --> 03:26:37,000
it's just in

5413
03:26:33,520 --> 03:26:40,479
planning stages so uh what is

5414
03:26:37,000 --> 03:26:43,680
biogasification so that's uh we

5415
03:26:40,479 --> 03:26:47,200
take uh organic material and we

5416
03:26:43,680 --> 03:26:49,520
put it into a

5417
03:26:47,200 --> 03:26:50,960
machine if you will i'll keep things

5418
03:26:49,520 --> 03:26:54,239
very simple here

5419
03:26:50,960 --> 03:26:55,200
and we turn that uh organic what we call

5420
03:26:54,239 --> 03:26:59,120
feed stock

5421
03:26:55,200 --> 03:27:02,479
into biogas and

5422
03:26:59,120 --> 03:27:06,160
a byproduct of that is

5423
03:27:02,479 --> 03:27:10,319
what we call biochar a lot of burnt up

5424
03:27:06,160 --> 03:27:10,880
wood so the biocat biogas that we get

5425
03:27:10,319 --> 03:27:14,560
from that

5426
03:27:10,880 --> 03:27:17,920
is a renewable

5427
03:27:14,560 --> 03:27:20,399
of electricity and then the

5428
03:27:17,920 --> 03:27:21,680
biochar which is the byproduct can be

5429
03:27:20,399 --> 03:27:24,880
used to

5430
03:27:21,680 --> 03:27:27,279
spread along the soil that

5431
03:27:24,880 --> 03:27:28,479
when it's high level biochar is in the

5432
03:27:27,279 --> 03:27:31,760
soil it actually

5433
03:27:28,479 --> 03:27:32,080
will pull because of the the plants that

5434
03:27:31,760 --> 03:27:34,960
you

5435
03:27:32,080 --> 03:27:35,600
put in there and their use of that

5436
03:27:34,960 --> 03:27:38,880
carbon

5437
03:27:35,600 --> 03:27:42,640
from the air and bring it into

5438
03:27:38,880 --> 03:27:45,920
the soil so uh ubds will

5439
03:27:42,640 --> 03:27:48,399
continue uh talking about this and uh

5440
03:27:45,920 --> 03:27:49,600
might be something very good for a

5441
03:27:48,399 --> 03:27:53,120
county-wide climate

5442
03:27:49,600 --> 03:27:55,520
action plan and uh um

5443
03:27:53,120 --> 03:27:56,560
all of our other efforts on uh climate

5444
03:27:55,520 --> 03:28:00,080
change

5445
03:27:56,560 --> 03:28:02,080
uh the uh other

5446
03:28:00,080 --> 03:28:03,760
issue well and also i wanted to announce

5447
03:28:02,080 --> 03:28:05,600
that they said that uh you know we've

5448
03:28:03,760 --> 03:28:08,080
heard a lot of discussion about

5449
03:28:05,600 --> 03:28:09,120
sp 1383 i'm going to talk about that in

5450
03:28:08,080 --> 03:28:12,720
a minute

5451
03:28:09,120 --> 03:28:13,279
but uh as the initial in addition to all

5452
03:28:12,720 --> 03:28:16,239
the

5453
03:28:13,279 --> 03:28:16,720
education that's going out uh ubds will

5454
03:28:16,239 --> 03:28:19,600
be

5455
03:28:16,720 --> 03:28:20,399
dropping off at everybody's doorstep or

5456
03:28:19,600 --> 03:28:24,560
where your

5457
03:28:20,399 --> 03:28:27,680
trash cans are a composting bucket

5458
03:28:24,560 --> 03:28:28,960
and that bucket is meant to kind of go

5459
03:28:27,680 --> 03:28:32,479
under your sink

5460
03:28:28,960 --> 03:28:34,640
so all of your organic waste instead of

5461
03:28:32,479 --> 03:28:38,560
going into your brown can well

5462
03:28:34,640 --> 03:28:41,200
you can put it into that little pale

5463
03:28:38,560 --> 03:28:41,600
and then you'll dump that in your green

5464
03:28:41,200 --> 03:28:44,560
can

5465
03:28:41,600 --> 03:28:46,720
so that will be coming out and i think

5466
03:28:44,560 --> 03:28:47,760
the timeline is about july first for

5467
03:28:46,720 --> 03:28:51,279
that

5468
03:28:47,760 --> 03:28:54,239
and our at our next jpa meeting

5469
03:28:51,279 --> 03:28:55,120
um for upper valley it's going to be

5470
03:28:54,239 --> 03:28:58,160
june 28

5471
03:28:55,120 --> 03:28:59,040
and we will be setting rates uh for the

5472
03:28:58,160 --> 03:29:02,239
next

5473
03:28:59,040 --> 03:29:02,800
three year cycle much like uh the we do

5474
03:29:02,239 --> 03:29:04,560
that

5475
03:29:02,800 --> 03:29:06,560
for a five year period for water and

5476
03:29:04,560 --> 03:29:08,479
wastewater but we'll be doing it for

5477
03:29:06,560 --> 03:29:09,920
for three years so we'll i'll have that

5478
03:29:08,479 --> 03:29:13,279
information for you

5479
03:29:09,920 --> 03:29:13,920
in july uh mayor should i just go on to

5480
03:29:13,279 --> 03:29:15,840
give you my

5481
03:29:13,920 --> 03:29:17,760
cal cities update on environmental

5482
03:29:15,840 --> 03:29:18,560
quality that then shaking okay i'll do

5483
03:29:17,760 --> 03:29:21,840
that

5484
03:29:18,560 --> 03:29:25,040
uh we actually had two meetings in april

5485
03:29:21,840 --> 03:29:27,920
we had so many bills to

5486
03:29:25,040 --> 03:29:28,640
uh discuss but the one um i'm going to

5487
03:29:27,920 --> 03:29:33,439
highlight

5488
03:29:28,640 --> 03:29:37,120
is sbe 619 as the layered bill

5489
03:29:33,439 --> 03:29:40,960
and this bill will

5490
03:29:37,120 --> 03:29:43,680
what it will do is delay

5491
03:29:40,960 --> 03:29:45,920
for one year so it will delay from

5492
03:29:43,680 --> 03:29:49,120
january 2022

5493
03:29:45,920 --> 03:29:52,560
to january 2023

5494
03:29:49,120 --> 03:29:53,840
any penalties that are imposed by cal

5495
03:29:52,560 --> 03:29:57,359
recycle

5496
03:29:53,840 --> 03:30:02,160
on a local jurisdiction i.e on phil

5497
03:29:57,359 --> 03:30:05,200
for violation of sb 1383 if

5498
03:30:02,160 --> 03:30:08,399
a jurisdiction uh does not

5499
03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:11,359
make reasonable efforts to

5500
03:30:08,399 --> 03:30:12,160
comply with this law we can be penalized

5501
03:30:11,359 --> 03:30:16,800
so

5502
03:30:12,160 --> 03:30:19,920
that we're hoping that if sb 16 619

5503
03:30:16,800 --> 03:30:23,520
passes that we will delay that we made a

5504
03:30:19,920 --> 03:30:25,840
a major effort trying to explain that

5505
03:30:23,520 --> 03:30:26,960
some of the roll out of this really big

5506
03:30:25,840 --> 03:30:29,279
legislation is

5507
03:30:26,960 --> 03:30:30,800
you know we've been delayed by cobin too

5508
03:30:29,279 --> 03:30:34,239
so

5509
03:30:30,800 --> 03:30:37,680
i checked uh yesterday's and last

5510
03:30:34,239 --> 03:30:40,399
thursday on april 29th sb

5511
03:30:37,680 --> 03:30:42,160
619 passed out of committee with a 7-0

5512
03:30:40,399 --> 03:30:44,399
vote that's very good

5513
03:30:42,160 --> 03:30:46,160
and it was moved forward to the

5514
03:30:44,399 --> 03:30:49,600
appropriations committee

5515
03:30:46,160 --> 03:30:52,000
so so far so good

5516
03:30:49,600 --> 03:30:53,439
that's do you want to follow up with any

5517
03:30:52,000 --> 03:30:56,720
follow up with lafco

5518
03:30:53,439 --> 03:30:59,359
uh no we have not uh met uh

5519
03:30:56,720 --> 03:31:00,399
since i gave our last report i did have

5520
03:30:59,359 --> 03:31:03,920
a

5521
03:31:00,399 --> 03:31:08,160
two day uh cal afco board meeting

5522
03:31:03,920 --> 03:31:11,840
a four hour cal afco budget meeting

5523
03:31:08,160 --> 03:31:12,960
and uh but i will go into the details

5524
03:31:11,840 --> 03:31:15,359
thank you

5525
03:31:12,960 --> 03:31:16,800
here dunbar yes just for uh

5526
03:31:15,359 --> 03:31:20,239
councilmember moeller uh

5527
03:31:16,800 --> 03:31:23,760
not bill day's cleanup and uh

5528
03:31:20,239 --> 03:31:26,080
yes we uh garage sale and uh

5529
03:31:23,760 --> 03:31:27,439
i just i'm i'll just make the

5530
03:31:26,080 --> 03:31:29,520
announcement i'm gonna

5531
03:31:27,439 --> 03:31:31,760
make sure everybody stops by uh jeff

5532
03:31:29,520 --> 03:31:33,600
durham's house i would say be there by 5

5533
03:31:31,760 --> 03:31:34,640
a.m he'll be pouring cocktails so make

5534
03:31:33,600 --> 03:31:37,279
sure you do that

5535
03:31:34,640 --> 03:31:38,880
that's for our garage sale day which

5536
03:31:37,279 --> 03:31:43,439
will be

5537
03:31:38,880 --> 03:31:46,319
saturday may the 8th this saturday

5538
03:31:43,439 --> 03:31:47,520
this saturday yes it's uh day before

5539
03:31:46,319 --> 03:31:51,200
mother's day

5540
03:31:47,520 --> 03:31:53,359
and uh all the addresses are being

5541
03:31:51,200 --> 03:31:54,319
published already and then our cleanup

5542
03:31:53,359 --> 03:31:57,439
day

5543
03:31:54,319 --> 03:31:59,279
which is um will be exactly

5544
03:31:57,439 --> 03:32:00,720
one week later everything needs to be on

5545
03:31:59,279 --> 03:32:02,399
the curve and

5546
03:32:00,720 --> 03:32:04,000
something has always happened but we're

5547
03:32:02,399 --> 03:32:07,279
formalizing it this year we're

5548
03:32:04,000 --> 03:32:08,160
also accepting e-waste just segregate

5549
03:32:07,279 --> 03:32:09,920
that

5550
03:32:08,160 --> 03:32:12,160
from your regular waste and this is not

5551
03:32:09,920 --> 03:32:13,840
recycling this is garbage

5552
03:32:12,160 --> 03:32:15,520
get it out early because we have a lot

5553
03:32:13,840 --> 03:32:17,040
of people driving by

5554
03:32:15,520 --> 03:32:19,200
and it's a lot of fun to sit on your

5555
03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:20,800
front porch and tell somebody why this

5556
03:32:19,200 --> 03:32:22,560
is a great item they should take it away

5557
03:32:20,800 --> 03:32:26,000
before it goes to the dump so

5558
03:32:22,560 --> 03:32:28,399
put your e-waste out uh um you know

5559
03:32:26,000 --> 03:32:29,760
it's anything with a cord when we had

5560
03:32:28,399 --> 03:32:31,760
our e-waste event

5561
03:32:29,760 --> 03:32:33,840
during shredded day somebody decided to

5562
03:32:31,760 --> 03:32:35,920
bring a really giant

5563
03:32:33,840 --> 03:32:37,200
christmas tree because it had those

5564
03:32:35,920 --> 03:32:40,319
lights wrapped on it

5565
03:32:37,200 --> 03:32:41,680
and it had a cord and the company was

5566
03:32:40,319 --> 03:32:44,479
gracious enough to

5567
03:32:41,680 --> 03:32:47,520
accept that as e-waste so i'm not

5568
03:32:44,479 --> 03:32:49,200
suggesting that you do that but

5569
03:32:47,520 --> 03:32:50,560
it's a great service that they're very

5570
03:32:49,200 --> 03:32:54,239
helpful so

5571
03:32:50,560 --> 03:32:56,640
anyway a lot of exciting uh garbage news

5572
03:32:54,239 --> 03:32:56,640
i think

5573
03:32:57,040 --> 03:33:00,960
yes and and i believe i'm going to be

5574
03:32:58,800 --> 03:33:03,279
joining you this friday for the

5575
03:33:00,960 --> 03:33:05,279
tour at uh upper valley disposal

5576
03:33:03,279 --> 03:33:08,319
services uh whitehall lane with

5577
03:33:05,279 --> 03:33:08,960
napa research okay great yes there yeah

5578
03:33:08,319 --> 03:33:12,160
there is

5579
03:33:08,960 --> 03:33:13,359
uh there is event up there to give a lot

5580
03:33:12,160 --> 03:33:16,160
of information to

5581
03:33:13,359 --> 03:33:17,840
uh some elected officials about uh what

5582
03:33:16,160 --> 03:33:19,200
goes on in that facility and all the

5583
03:33:17,840 --> 03:33:22,800
changes that

5584
03:33:19,200 --> 03:33:26,080
they're doing to um start accommodating

5585
03:33:22,800 --> 03:33:28,390
this really large sb1383

5586
03:33:26,080 --> 03:33:29,520
to that point they are only going to do

5587
03:33:28,390 --> 03:33:34,399
[Music]

5588
03:33:29,520 --> 03:33:38,000
the um the residential

5589
03:33:34,399 --> 03:33:40,160
food recycling up there and all the

5590
03:33:38,000 --> 03:33:42,560
commercial will actually go to clover

5591
03:33:40,160 --> 03:33:42,560
flat

5592
03:33:42,720 --> 03:33:46,880
great thank you i do have a county-wide

5593
03:33:46,160 --> 03:33:48,319
economic

5594
03:33:46,880 --> 03:33:49,439
development task force meeting right in

5595
03:33:48,319 --> 03:33:51,359
the middle of that but i'm going to get

5596
03:33:49,439 --> 03:33:53,200
up for the beginning of that tour

5597
03:33:51,359 --> 03:33:54,880
i think it's napa recycling first and

5598
03:33:53,200 --> 03:33:56,720
then upper valley

5599
03:33:54,880 --> 03:33:58,319
the second half of that so yeah i'm

5600
03:33:56,720 --> 03:33:58,960
going to miss the first half i'll i'll

5601
03:33:58,319 --> 03:34:02,000
meet you

5602
03:33:58,960 --> 03:34:05,600
whitehall lane there you go all right

5603
03:34:02,000 --> 03:34:08,239
um so thank you for all those reports um

5604
03:34:05,600 --> 03:34:09,200
i do want to offer do we have any other

5605
03:34:08,239 --> 03:34:12,640
as i get into my

5606
03:34:09,200 --> 03:34:14,399
i see you i really do um

5607
03:34:12,640 --> 03:34:16,720
before i get into my cal city's report i

5608
03:34:14,399 --> 03:34:18,479
was going to invite any reports out from

5609
03:34:16,720 --> 03:34:22,560
policy committees and i know

5610
03:34:18,479 --> 03:34:22,560
councilmember dorenbecker has a report

5611
03:34:22,880 --> 03:34:28,560
well thank you yes i am on the revenue

5612
03:34:25,680 --> 03:34:29,680
on taxation policy committee meeting and

5613
03:34:28,560 --> 03:34:33,600
actually i was

5614
03:34:29,680 --> 03:34:38,160
on a webinar this morning um about

5615
03:34:33,600 --> 03:34:40,960
the whole so many so many things

5616
03:34:38,160 --> 03:34:42,080
housing and almost all the committees

5617
03:34:40,960 --> 03:34:46,319
reported

5618
03:34:42,080 --> 03:34:51,439
but for the revenue and taxation

5619
03:34:46,319 --> 03:34:51,439
the exciting thing was that there were

5620
03:34:52,319 --> 03:34:56,880
excuse me well and one of the other

5621
03:34:55,920 --> 03:35:00,399
bills that is

5622
03:34:56,880 --> 03:35:03,040
really exciting are ab14 and sb4

5623
03:35:00,399 --> 03:35:04,319
which are the broadband bills that

5624
03:35:03,040 --> 03:35:07,200
codify

5625
03:35:04,319 --> 03:35:07,840
the federal uh bill on a local level

5626
03:35:07,200 --> 03:35:13,200
which is

5627
03:35:07,840 --> 03:35:13,200
sort of distressing also

5628
03:35:14,680 --> 03:35:22,239
ab1060 they're proposing

5629
03:35:18,880 --> 03:35:24,160
and the we support this the the

5630
03:35:22,239 --> 03:35:25,680
league supports a statewide emergency

5631
03:35:24,160 --> 03:35:28,720
alert system

5632
03:35:25,680 --> 03:35:31,200
and um but the responsibility of getting

5633
03:35:28,720 --> 03:35:39,840
that out is still on a local level

5634
03:35:31,200 --> 03:35:39,840
and then

5635
03:35:43,439 --> 03:35:47,920
all these watch poses opposite

5636
03:35:50,840 --> 03:35:55,439
um the housing uh development incentive

5637
03:35:54,800 --> 03:35:59,920
grants

5638
03:35:55,439 --> 03:36:01,040
program uh is being uh sb15 is supported

5639
03:35:59,920 --> 03:36:04,560
and

5640
03:36:01,040 --> 03:36:08,319
um looking at planning

5641
03:36:04,560 --> 03:36:12,080
and a four-area ratio

5642
03:36:08,319 --> 03:36:15,920
uh units per acre um

5643
03:36:12,080 --> 03:36:18,960
that's that's uh being opposed because

5644
03:36:15,920 --> 03:36:22,399
it's uh planning to uh

5645
03:36:18,960 --> 03:36:23,279
put you know building on acreage that is

5646
03:36:22,399 --> 03:36:26,560
in the

5647
03:36:23,279 --> 03:36:30,080
in the uh in the woods

5648
03:36:26,560 --> 03:36:30,080
so that's not um

5649
03:36:30,479 --> 03:36:33,680
i have too many to go through i'm so

5650
03:36:32,800 --> 03:36:35,840
sorry i

5651
03:36:33,680 --> 03:36:37,680
on the 23rd i did have a watershed

5652
03:36:35,840 --> 03:36:39,200
information and conservation committee

5653
03:36:37,680 --> 03:36:42,319
meeting also

5654
03:36:39,200 --> 03:36:44,479
and um they talked about

5655
03:36:42,319 --> 03:36:46,399
uh we're going to go into strategic

5656
03:36:44,479 --> 03:36:49,840
planning next meeting

5657
03:36:46,399 --> 03:36:49,840
uh we had an uh

5658
03:36:49,920 --> 03:36:56,720
presentation on woodland

5659
03:36:53,120 --> 03:37:00,399
resource issues and the economic

5660
03:36:56,720 --> 03:37:02,720
fallout from the drought

5661
03:37:00,399 --> 03:37:04,000
so for the watershed information and

5662
03:37:02,720 --> 03:37:06,479
conservation

5663
03:37:04,000 --> 03:37:09,200
they will have no uh conference this

5664
03:37:06,479 --> 03:37:10,960
year and be put off until 2022

5665
03:37:09,200 --> 03:37:12,560
and they're going to refocus their

5666
03:37:10,960 --> 03:37:16,319
technical committee

5667
03:37:12,560 --> 03:37:19,600
to look at um you know water uh

5668
03:37:16,319 --> 03:37:24,160
water-based problems um but it was

5669
03:37:19,600 --> 03:37:24,160
uh it was a good meeting

5670
03:37:24,399 --> 03:37:28,239
also in that meeting they did have a

5671
03:37:27,120 --> 03:37:32,800
presentation

5672
03:37:28,239 --> 03:37:32,800
uh from um ann

5673
03:37:38,000 --> 03:37:42,880
and britain from the ashley cortech

5674
03:37:40,880 --> 03:37:45,359
volunteer she's an actually quartet

5675
03:37:42,880 --> 03:37:46,000
volunteer anyway she was talking about

5676
03:37:45,359 --> 03:37:49,040
how

5677
03:37:46,000 --> 03:37:52,560
right now the uh in the industry that's

5678
03:37:49,040 --> 03:37:55,680
in uh farming and farming for wines

5679
03:37:52,560 --> 03:37:58,800
uh vineyards they're developing a lot of

5680
03:37:55,680 --> 03:37:58,800
electrical um

5681
03:37:59,279 --> 03:38:07,120
engineering electrical vehicles for

5682
03:38:03,840 --> 03:38:08,800
uh using in agriculture so that's a good

5683
03:38:07,120 --> 03:38:11,840
sign we were talking about

5684
03:38:08,800 --> 03:38:13,600
plastic bag bands and and banning

5685
03:38:11,840 --> 03:38:16,640
plastics and banning

5686
03:38:13,600 --> 03:38:19,760
uh the gasoline um

5687
03:38:16,640 --> 03:38:22,399
uh handheld uh

5688
03:38:19,760 --> 03:38:23,840
blowers and so this this is a

5689
03:38:22,399 --> 03:38:26,720
development that's going on that's

5690
03:38:23,840 --> 03:38:31,680
getting a lot of a lot more

5691
03:38:26,720 --> 03:38:33,840
um attention so that was good and then

5692
03:38:31,680 --> 03:38:35,520
uh and then we had the climate action

5693
03:38:33,840 --> 03:38:40,800
plan committee meeting on the

5694
03:38:35,520 --> 03:38:44,399
uh april 23rd and we had um

5695
03:38:40,800 --> 03:38:47,520
the rcdc executive director lucas patzik

5696
03:38:44,399 --> 03:38:49,120
talked about forest health and promoting

5697
03:38:47,520 --> 03:38:51,199
resilience in the forest gave a

5698
03:38:49,120 --> 03:38:55,279
presentation about that

5699
03:38:51,199 --> 03:38:58,560
and it was all very good but the whole

5700
03:38:55,279 --> 03:39:00,720
you know everybody the whole

5701
03:38:58,560 --> 03:39:02,479
every branch of government is really

5702
03:39:00,720 --> 03:39:05,680
talking most about the drought

5703
03:39:02,479 --> 03:39:07,840
in california so it's been uh

5704
03:39:05,680 --> 03:39:10,319
it's been a lot of notes and a lot of

5705
03:39:07,840 --> 03:39:13,199
them have to do with drought

5706
03:39:10,319 --> 03:39:15,120
thank you okay that was thorough i

5707
03:39:13,199 --> 03:39:17,840
didn't last through the entire

5708
03:39:15,120 --> 03:39:19,279
uh two hour cal cities legislative

5709
03:39:17,840 --> 03:39:20,479
update this morning but it certainly

5710
03:39:19,279 --> 03:39:24,399
sounds like you did

5711
03:39:20,479 --> 03:39:25,840
with all those notes thank you i i heard

5712
03:39:24,399 --> 03:39:27,279
all about it last week at the board

5713
03:39:25,840 --> 03:39:28,239
meeting so i wasn't going to sit through

5714
03:39:27,279 --> 03:39:31,680
it again

5715
03:39:28,239 --> 03:39:34,319
frankly but thank you for

5716
03:39:31,680 --> 03:39:34,720
for all those reports out speaking of

5717
03:39:34,319 --> 03:39:37,680
the

5718
03:39:34,720 --> 03:39:39,439
cal cities board meeting last thursday

5719
03:39:37,680 --> 03:39:42,479
and friday

5720
03:39:39,439 --> 03:39:43,920
we had a report a presentation from the

5721
03:39:42,479 --> 03:39:45,120
secretary of california natural

5722
03:39:43,920 --> 03:39:48,640
resources agency

5723
03:39:45,120 --> 03:39:50,319
wade crow foot on as councilor adorned

5724
03:39:48,640 --> 03:39:53,680
record just identified

5725
03:39:50,319 --> 03:39:58,239
drought resiliency and

5726
03:39:53,680 --> 03:40:00,720
he was you know identifying regions and

5727
03:39:58,239 --> 03:40:02,399
the highest intensity of drought impacts

5728
03:40:00,720 --> 03:40:04,640
throughout the state

5729
03:40:02,399 --> 03:40:05,840
and it does vary uh quite a bit

5730
03:40:04,640 --> 03:40:08,880
throughout the state which was

5731
03:40:05,840 --> 03:40:09,920
interesting i also presented along with

5732
03:40:08,880 --> 03:40:14,560
my co-chair

5733
03:40:09,920 --> 03:40:18,160
randy joel from temecula

5734
03:40:14,560 --> 03:40:20,800
the advancing equity advisory committee

5735
03:40:18,160 --> 03:40:22,080
report to the board of directors that's

5736
03:40:20,800 --> 03:40:22,800
the committee i have been on for about

5737
03:40:22,080 --> 03:40:25,279
three months

5738
03:40:22,800 --> 03:40:26,640
with two dozen elected officials and

5739
03:40:25,279 --> 03:40:28,160
city staff from

5740
03:40:26,640 --> 03:40:30,239
throughout the state talking about

5741
03:40:28,160 --> 03:40:33,279
diversity equity and inclusion

5742
03:40:30,239 --> 03:40:33,600
and we presented an initial report that

5743
03:40:33,279 --> 03:40:36,720
is

5744
03:40:33,600 --> 03:40:38,960
leading to a work plan

5745
03:40:36,720 --> 03:40:40,560
that cal cities is putting together for

5746
03:40:38,960 --> 03:40:43,840
all of the jurisdictions

5747
03:40:40,560 --> 03:40:45,600
all the membership to have resources and

5748
03:40:43,840 --> 03:40:48,319
tools so that we can

5749
03:40:45,600 --> 03:40:49,359
advance equity inclusion and diversity

5750
03:40:48,319 --> 03:40:51,680
not only in our

5751
03:40:49,359 --> 03:40:53,120
municipal government but in our

5752
03:40:51,680 --> 03:40:56,239
communities so

5753
03:40:53,120 --> 03:40:56,880
that was um it was very satisfying to be

5754
03:40:56,239 --> 03:40:58,720
a part of that

5755
03:40:56,880 --> 03:41:00,160
effort and it's going to be ongoing so

5756
03:40:58,720 --> 03:41:02,399
you'll hear reports out

5757
03:41:00,160 --> 03:41:03,199
i'm sure councilmember norenbecker and i

5758
03:41:02,399 --> 03:41:05,120
especially

5759
03:41:03,199 --> 03:41:06,720
uh most active in the north bay division

5760
03:41:05,120 --> 03:41:08,720
will be having more conversations about

5761
03:41:06,720 --> 03:41:12,319
that as well

5762
03:41:08,720 --> 03:41:15,840
we did take positions as a board on

5763
03:41:12,319 --> 03:41:18,160
about two dozen bills many of them

5764
03:41:15,840 --> 03:41:21,359
were related to public safety issues

5765
03:41:18,160 --> 03:41:24,399
that are in the legislature right now

5766
03:41:21,359 --> 03:41:29,439
some of it about reforming

5767
03:41:24,399 --> 03:41:32,479
training and police equipment and

5768
03:41:29,439 --> 03:41:35,920
police response things like that also

5769
03:41:32,479 --> 03:41:40,880
also housing homelessness and economic

5770
03:41:35,920 --> 03:41:44,000
development were popular themes for

5771
03:41:40,880 --> 03:41:46,640
legislation that's happening right now

5772
03:41:44,000 --> 03:41:48,239
and as councilmember doernbecher

5773
03:41:46,640 --> 03:41:50,800
reported out there was that

5774
03:41:48,239 --> 03:41:52,800
briefing this morning very active in

5775
03:41:50,800 --> 03:41:54,800
sacramento right now with

5776
03:41:52,800 --> 03:41:56,319
committee hearings and some bills are

5777
03:41:54,800 --> 03:41:58,800
dying in committee some are

5778
03:41:56,319 --> 03:42:00,800
moving forward so it's literally every

5779
03:41:58,800 --> 03:42:03,120
day there's an update on what's

5780
03:42:00,800 --> 03:42:06,160
happening so we'll continue to provide

5781
03:42:03,120 --> 03:42:09,279
that information to you

5782
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:10,720
council ad hoc reports as i mentioned

5783
03:42:09,279 --> 03:42:14,560
very briefly

5784
03:42:10,720 --> 03:42:15,760
the there are several economic recovery

5785
03:42:14,560 --> 03:42:18,479
task forces

5786
03:42:15,760 --> 03:42:20,560
this particular one involves the mayors

5787
03:42:18,479 --> 03:42:23,120
two members of the supervisors

5788
03:42:20,560 --> 03:42:24,319
we will be meeting on friday there will

5789
03:42:23,120 --> 03:42:27,600
also be a

5790
03:42:24,319 --> 03:42:28,080
broader economic recovery task force

5791
03:42:27,600 --> 03:42:30,479
meeting

5792
03:42:28,080 --> 03:42:31,920
coming up in the next few weeks as soon

5793
03:42:30,479 --> 03:42:35,199
as we can schedule it with

5794
03:42:31,920 --> 03:42:38,720
industry leadership and

5795
03:42:35,199 --> 03:42:41,120
chambers of commerce and again mayor's

5796
03:42:38,720 --> 03:42:42,080
city managers so those are going to

5797
03:42:41,120 --> 03:42:45,199
continue

5798
03:42:42,080 --> 03:42:47,120
i will be on a call again tomorrow along

5799
03:42:45,199 --> 03:42:50,640
with other mayors and

5800
03:42:47,120 --> 03:42:54,080
supervisor pedrosa talking to

5801
03:42:50,640 --> 03:42:57,040
mostly restaurants operators but also

5802
03:42:54,080 --> 03:42:57,520
other hospitality businesses and how

5803
03:42:57,040 --> 03:43:00,560
they are

5804
03:42:57,520 --> 03:43:03,680
receiving federal support

5805
03:43:00,560 --> 03:43:04,560
money and how things are proceeding here

5806
03:43:03,680 --> 03:43:07,279
in napa county

5807
03:43:04,560 --> 03:43:09,520
so are there any other yes councilmember

5808
03:43:07,279 --> 03:43:09,520
knight

5809
03:43:10,000 --> 03:43:15,120
thank you mayor um i believe i know

5810
03:43:13,279 --> 03:43:16,399
i'll fall maybe after this the vice

5811
03:43:15,120 --> 03:43:18,399
mayor maybe we put on

5812
03:43:16,399 --> 03:43:21,120
our parking ad hoc but i first just

5813
03:43:18,399 --> 03:43:23,040
wanted to thank all of you for the work

5814
03:43:21,120 --> 03:43:24,080
you do on county-wide and statewide

5815
03:43:23,040 --> 03:43:25,920
committees

5816
03:43:24,080 --> 03:43:27,279
it's important work and benefits our

5817
03:43:25,920 --> 03:43:29,520
community so

5818
03:43:27,279 --> 03:43:30,640
i am an alternate an alternate on a few

5819
03:43:29,520 --> 03:43:33,680
of those so

5820
03:43:30,640 --> 03:43:34,560
i'm happy to volunteer fill in when i

5821
03:43:33,680 --> 03:43:37,680
can

5822
03:43:34,560 --> 03:43:39,199
um i did sign up for the league of

5823
03:43:37,680 --> 03:43:40,880
california to be a judge for the league

5824
03:43:39,199 --> 03:43:43,439
of california's helen

5825
03:43:40,880 --> 03:43:45,279
helen hutman awards which was around

5826
03:43:43,439 --> 03:43:47,279
when i was on the council before so it's

5827
03:43:45,279 --> 03:43:49,920
a great opportunity to look at

5828
03:43:47,279 --> 03:43:50,960
economic development recreational

5829
03:43:49,920 --> 03:43:52,880
planning

5830
03:43:50,960 --> 03:43:54,319
programs that other cities all around

5831
03:43:52,880 --> 03:43:58,319
the state have

5832
03:43:54,319 --> 03:44:00,640
presented for awards and for review

5833
03:43:58,319 --> 03:44:01,359
so i'm looking forward to seeing those

5834
03:44:00,640 --> 03:44:03,439
programs

5835
03:44:01,359 --> 03:44:04,479
that uh that are have been successful

5836
03:44:03,439 --> 03:44:07,680
throughout

5837
03:44:04,479 --> 03:44:08,960
uh the state so thank you for all

5838
03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:11,040
the service that you do on these

5839
03:44:08,960 --> 03:44:12,800
committees thank you

5840
03:44:11,040 --> 03:44:14,880
and thank you for that recognition i

5841
03:44:12,800 --> 03:44:18,479
know we all have had

5842
03:44:14,880 --> 03:44:19,760
extra homework especially at home

5843
03:44:18,479 --> 03:44:22,640
literally at home

5844
03:44:19,760 --> 03:44:24,000
this last year to stay engaged because

5845
03:44:22,640 --> 03:44:26,160
it really has been

5846
03:44:24,000 --> 03:44:27,920
critical that we have the direct

5847
03:44:26,160 --> 03:44:31,279
communication

5848
03:44:27,920 --> 03:44:33,199
county-wide regional directly with our

5849
03:44:31,279 --> 03:44:35,279
state representatives and also

5850
03:44:33,199 --> 03:44:36,479
congressman thompson and our other

5851
03:44:35,279 --> 03:44:38,960
federal leadership so

5852
03:44:36,479 --> 03:44:39,920
as critical as ever as we're trying to

5853
03:44:38,960 --> 03:44:42,399
get as much

5854
03:44:39,920 --> 03:44:43,439
support from the federal and state as we

5855
03:44:42,399 --> 03:44:45,760
can

5856
03:44:43,439 --> 03:44:47,680
because we all need it cities towns need

5857
03:44:45,760 --> 03:44:50,399
it our businesses need it

5858
03:44:47,680 --> 03:44:51,120
non-profits need it so we'll continue

5859
03:44:50,399 --> 03:44:54,479
that

5860
03:44:51,120 --> 03:44:55,040
additional advocacy unless there are any

5861
03:44:54,479 --> 03:44:58,080
other

5862
03:44:55,040 --> 03:45:01,279
reports out uh vice mayor yes

5863
03:44:58,080 --> 03:45:02,080
yes thank you um i would like to give a

5864
03:45:01,279 --> 03:45:04,239
report

5865
03:45:02,080 --> 03:45:05,120
please on uh the parking ad hoc

5866
03:45:04,239 --> 03:45:07,760
committee

5867
03:45:05,120 --> 03:45:09,359
we did meet about a week ago it was

5868
03:45:07,760 --> 03:45:12,560
council member night

5869
03:45:09,359 --> 03:45:13,359
of manager rogers directors tagliavashi

5870
03:45:12,560 --> 03:45:16,880
and liston

5871
03:45:13,359 --> 03:45:19,040
and me um it was our first uh meeting

5872
03:45:16,880 --> 03:45:20,080
uh kind of a scoping meeting for lack of

5873
03:45:19,040 --> 03:45:23,359
a better word

5874
03:45:20,080 --> 03:45:24,160
we really focused on um we are going to

5875
03:45:23,359 --> 03:45:27,600
be

5876
03:45:24,160 --> 03:45:30,160
a policy committee uh with some

5877
03:45:27,600 --> 03:45:31,279
implementation recommendations but but

5878
03:45:30,160 --> 03:45:34,640
policy

5879
03:45:31,279 --> 03:45:35,840
first um we have been doing some

5880
03:45:34,640 --> 03:45:37,920
individual resource

5881
03:45:35,840 --> 03:45:39,760
research staff thank you very much had

5882
03:45:37,920 --> 03:45:43,520
sent us quite a bit of work

5883
03:45:39,760 --> 03:45:46,720
from previous times

5884
03:45:43,520 --> 03:45:47,680
one thing that we focused on also is how

5885
03:45:46,720 --> 03:45:50,880
we will

5886
03:45:47,680 --> 03:45:54,000
approach or recommend that we approach a

5887
03:45:50,880 --> 03:45:56,800
community input and that by community i

5888
03:45:54,000 --> 03:45:57,520
mean residents and businesses we

5889
03:45:56,800 --> 03:46:00,800
discussed

5890
03:45:57,520 --> 03:46:01,439
some kind of more atypical possible

5891
03:46:00,800 --> 03:46:04,960
approaches

5892
03:46:01,439 --> 03:46:06,960
such as small groups or hybrid groups of

5893
03:46:04,960 --> 03:46:08,000
business and residents which i know have

5894
03:46:06,960 --> 03:46:11,279
been done before

5895
03:46:08,000 --> 03:46:13,600
but kind of looking at those

5896
03:46:11,279 --> 03:46:15,040
uh because i think if we've heard it

5897
03:46:13,600 --> 03:46:17,920
once we've heard it

5898
03:46:15,040 --> 03:46:19,199
more than twice parking can be very

5899
03:46:17,920 --> 03:46:22,080
local

5900
03:46:19,199 --> 03:46:25,120
we are really committed to identifying

5901
03:46:22,080 --> 03:46:27,760
the problem before we start to offer any

5902
03:46:25,120 --> 03:46:31,279
solutions or policies and that's

5903
03:46:27,760 --> 03:46:33,279
we are going to be looking to

5904
03:46:31,279 --> 03:46:35,040
our community again residents and

5905
03:46:33,279 --> 03:46:38,880
businesses to help us

5906
03:46:35,040 --> 03:46:40,960
define the problem um

5907
03:46:38,880 --> 03:46:42,160
and kind of like you said mayor we are

5908
03:46:40,960 --> 03:46:44,880
also looking

5909
03:46:42,160 --> 03:46:46,560
uh yes people have problems that are

5910
03:46:44,880 --> 03:46:49,680
ongoing right now but

5911
03:46:46,560 --> 03:46:51,439
we are looking to be very

5912
03:46:49,680 --> 03:46:53,680
forward-looking to see

5913
03:46:51,439 --> 03:46:55,040
what might happen not just in five years

5914
03:46:53,680 --> 03:46:58,720
but 10 years

5915
03:46:55,040 --> 03:47:00,319
and try to put some living workable

5916
03:46:58,720 --> 03:47:02,720
policies

5917
03:47:00,319 --> 03:47:03,439
before the council for consideration and

5918
03:47:02,720 --> 03:47:05,279
i don't know

5919
03:47:03,439 --> 03:47:06,720
uh councilmember knight if i covered it

5920
03:47:05,279 --> 03:47:09,359
all

5921
03:47:06,720 --> 03:47:10,800
yes thank you i just want to say that uh

5922
03:47:09,359 --> 03:47:12,479
i appreciate being on the committee

5923
03:47:10,800 --> 03:47:14,640
we're gathering information and

5924
03:47:12,479 --> 03:47:17,600
discussing objectives and

5925
03:47:14,640 --> 03:47:19,359
and look forward to bringing back as we

5926
03:47:17,600 --> 03:47:22,239
said we would to the council

5927
03:47:19,359 --> 03:47:23,840
kind of report on the uh of the you know

5928
03:47:22,239 --> 03:47:26,319
a greater plan for our

5929
03:47:23,840 --> 03:47:27,120
for this ad hoc committee so you know

5930
03:47:26,319 --> 03:47:30,319
today is my

5931
03:47:27,120 --> 03:47:33,600
second use permit uh a

5932
03:47:30,319 --> 03:47:35,359
review a discussion and and as the

5933
03:47:33,600 --> 03:47:37,840
reality is is that

5934
03:47:35,359 --> 03:47:39,840
you know as we will continue to

5935
03:47:37,840 --> 03:47:42,960
successfully um

5936
03:47:39,840 --> 03:47:44,880
uh come back that parking will

5937
03:47:42,960 --> 03:47:46,160
will still be a conversation we need to

5938
03:47:44,880 --> 03:47:48,880
have so i

5939
03:47:46,160 --> 03:47:50,960
look forward to our the work that we do

5940
03:47:48,880 --> 03:47:53,120
thank you

5941
03:47:50,960 --> 03:47:54,239
and what i would suggest of our parking

5942
03:47:53,120 --> 03:47:57,439
ad hoc committee

5943
03:47:54,239 --> 03:48:00,560
is i don't remember the bills

5944
03:47:57,439 --> 03:48:02,160
the numbers off top my head thankfully

5945
03:48:00,560 --> 03:48:04,319
there are bills working through the

5946
03:48:02,160 --> 03:48:06,960
legislature right now that are trying to

5947
03:48:04,319 --> 03:48:09,359
eliminate parking for businesses

5948
03:48:06,960 --> 03:48:11,199
so it's that kind of pressure that we're

5949
03:48:09,359 --> 03:48:14,800
getting from sacramento

5950
03:48:11,199 --> 03:48:17,359
in certain areas really encouraging

5951
03:48:14,800 --> 03:48:18,800
uh land use for housing especially

5952
03:48:17,359 --> 03:48:21,359
affordable housing

5953
03:48:18,800 --> 03:48:23,439
and uh eliminating parking requirements

5954
03:48:21,359 --> 03:48:25,040
to get that housing developed so

5955
03:48:23,439 --> 03:48:26,479
it's it would be some homework just to

5956
03:48:25,040 --> 03:48:29,520
get familiar with

5957
03:48:26,479 --> 03:48:31,840
the rationale behind that i know that

5958
03:48:29,520 --> 03:48:33,439
we've talked for a few years now about

5959
03:48:31,840 --> 03:48:36,319
the changing patterns of

5960
03:48:33,439 --> 03:48:38,880
of driving and ride share and what does

5961
03:48:36,319 --> 03:48:41,520
that mean to parking so

5962
03:48:38,880 --> 03:48:42,160
just a couple other components of your

5963
03:48:41,520 --> 03:48:45,279
analysis

5964
03:48:42,160 --> 03:48:47,120
going forward to offer up so i suspect

5965
03:48:45,279 --> 03:48:50,399
if you typed in the

5966
03:48:47,120 --> 03:48:53,040
legislative bill search and you said

5967
03:48:50,399 --> 03:48:54,840
parking prohibition or parking

5968
03:48:53,040 --> 03:48:57,199
restrictions you probably get a long

5969
03:48:54,840 --> 03:48:57,920
list thank you mayor a little late night

5970
03:48:57,199 --> 03:49:00,880
reading

5971
03:48:57,920 --> 03:49:02,319
that's right if you if you have insomnia

5972
03:49:00,880 --> 03:49:04,720
um

5973
03:49:02,319 --> 03:49:06,160
so i believe that does take care of our

5974
03:49:04,720 --> 03:49:08,479
business for

5975
03:49:06,160 --> 03:49:11,600
tonight and since we're going to see

5976
03:49:08,479 --> 03:49:14,000
each other in about 12 hours or less

5977
03:49:11,600 --> 03:49:16,080
we might want to wrap this up i will

5978
03:49:14,000 --> 03:49:19,040
entertain a motion to adjourn

5979
03:49:16,080 --> 03:49:21,120
to our budget workshop tomorrow morning

5980
03:49:19,040 --> 03:49:24,239
that starts at 9 30 a.m

5981
03:49:21,120 --> 03:49:26,479
in all of our virtual locations and

5982
03:49:24,239 --> 03:49:28,960
hopefully syria's uh

5983
03:49:26,479 --> 03:49:30,000
camera will be awake at 9 30 tomorrow

5984
03:49:28,960 --> 03:49:31,520
morning

5985
03:49:30,000 --> 03:49:33,359
um because you'll you'll be doing some

5986
03:49:31,520 --> 03:49:36,880
talking i suspect so

5987
03:49:33,359 --> 03:49:40,080
um with that i i guess

5988
03:49:36,880 --> 03:49:44,640
who wants to make that motion thank you

5989
03:49:40,080 --> 03:49:47,600
councilman becker uh and i'll take the

5990
03:49:44,640 --> 03:49:49,120
the peace sign from vice mayor is

5991
03:49:47,600 --> 03:49:52,000
seconding that motion

5992
03:49:49,120 --> 03:49:52,319
i think we could a voice vote that we

5993
03:49:52,000 --> 03:49:56,160
all

5994
03:49:52,319 --> 03:49:59,520
five zero approved that michelle

5995
03:49:56,160 --> 03:50:01,439
yes i heard that we are adjourned

5996
03:49:59,520 --> 03:50:07,500
we are adjourned until tomorrow morning

5997
03:50:01,439 --> 03:50:10,549
at 9 30. thanks everybody

5998
03:50:07,500 --> 03:50:10,549
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5999
03:50:12,740 --> 03:50:15,799
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