1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,140 At 2.36 p.m., I will now take roll call. Councillor Hasick? Here. Councillor Lubinow? Here. Councillor 2 00:00:09,140 --> 00:00:14,860 Maynard? Here. Councillor Miller? Here. Councillor Quikky? Here. All right. I will write the 3 00:00:14,860 --> 00:00:16,520 other names of those in attendance. 4 00:00:24,210 --> 00:00:27,370 All right. This agenda item for this closed portion of the 5 00:00:27,370 --> 00:00:32,850 special city council meeting is to discuss legal strategy related to the Carlson Walder's group, 6 00:00:32,850 --> 00:00:38,770 litigation. The legal basis to close this meeting of the Fairmont City Council 7 00:00:38,770 --> 00:00:46,290 in pursuit of the Minnesota Statute 13D.05 subdivision 3D under the 8 00:00:46,290 --> 00:00:51,110 attorney client privilege exception to the Minnesota Open Meeting Law. The city 9 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:56,470 needs for confidentiality always a purpose served by the open meeting law in the case 10 00:00:56,470 --> 00:01:01,370 based in the following. Absolute confidentiality is necessary so the City Council and 11 00:01:01,370 --> 00:01:07,570 Legal Council can have a candid and open discussion to determine the available legal options 12 00:01:07,570 --> 00:01:12,230 to handle pending and threatening litigation matters, strategy, and possible areas of 13 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:12,650 resolution. 14 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:17,870 The purpose of this closed meeting is not to make a decision behind closed doors, but instead 15 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:20,250 determine legal options for handling litigation. 16 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:23,910 The only business to be discussed is the pending litigation. 17 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:31,560 The open session would be defermental because it may take place in the presence of individuals 18 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,800 involved in the litigation. A closed session would benefit the public because the 19 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,860 ultimate outcome of litigation may impact the finances of the city. I will now 20 00:01:41,860 --> 00:01:46,360 entertain emotion to close the meeting. Is there a motion to close the meeting 21 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:54,360 pursuit to Minnesota statute 13D.05 subdivision 3B to conduct a closed session 22 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,960 pursuit to the attorney client privileges to engage in confidentiality, attorney 23 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:05,320 any client communications and litigation strategy related to the Carlson Water Walters 24 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,500 group LLC also known CWG. Is there a motion? 25 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:16,280 There's a motion by Maynard, second by Hasick. All those in favor? 26 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Aye. 27 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,780 All those opposed? That motion passed. 28 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:28,180 This council is now in close session. The time is 239 p. This is from our city attorney 29 00:02:28,180 --> 00:02:33,720 and to read this accordingly and we'll follow it as it's presented to me here. 30 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:45,280 So preliminary consideration of allegations against individual subject to City Council's authority under Minnesota Statue Section 13D 0.05 subdivision to be. 31 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:57,500 The agenda item is preliminary consideration of allegations against individual subject to City Council authority under Minnesota Statue Section 13D 0.05. 32 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:01,940 sub-division to be the individual as City Councilmember Brittney Quakey. 33 00:03:01,940 --> 00:03:04,520 Councilor Quakey, do you wish to have this meeting open to the public? 34 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Yes. 35 00:03:17,510 --> 00:03:24,930 Pursuit to Minnesota Statue Section 13D.05 sub-division to Councilmember Quakey request 36 00:03:24,930 --> 00:03:26,950 a disproportion of the meeting to be open. 37 00:03:27,590 --> 00:03:32,830 As specified, we are considering a complaint against Councilmember Quakey in this session. 38 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:35,730 Councilmember, I recommend that we do the following. 39 00:03:36,590 --> 00:03:42,850 Council members, excuse me, give City Administrator O'Neill time to give us background this matter. 40 00:03:43,690 --> 00:03:48,490 Also, City Council members discuss complaint against Council Member Brittany Kauikki and 41 00:03:48,490 --> 00:03:53,830 determine whether to hold a hearing on the complaint for the City Code of Conduct Procedure. 42 00:03:54,270 --> 00:04:00,630 If desired but not required, City Council discuss complaint against Council Member Kauikki with 43 00:04:00,630 --> 00:04:06,590 quickie presence where it should say. If we are going to take any formal action on this matter, including 44 00:04:07,210 --> 00:04:14,590 determining whether to hold a hearing on the complaint, we would do that in open session after the closed session is concluded through 45 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:16,430 motion and a vote. 46 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:22,960 City Council members, do you have any comments on the proposed process? 47 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:28,600 With that, Mr. O'Neill, please provide us that ground on this matter. 48 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:41,240 All right, so we've had the opportunity to meet with everyone in this room and also provide you with the background on the complaints in the folder that we reviewed. 49 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:56,740 And with that, there was a personnel complaint, which in compliance with their personal policy led to an investigation, 50 00:04:56,740 --> 00:04:59,820 which led to the complaint that you reviewed. 51 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:09,260 So that is, you know, the goal here is to determine whether you want to pursue a hearing. 52 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:16,760 And at that point, if you do want to do a hearing, vote on that and then determine a date 53 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,640 or attempt to schedule when that would occur. 54 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:24,320 So that's all I have to provide at this point. 55 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:25,180 All right. 56 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:32,440 Thank you city council members. We will now discuss the complaint against councilmember quickie as a city council member and 57 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,440 Reach conclusion on whether to hold a hearing on the complaint for the city's code of conduct 58 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:46,220 If city council concludes that a hearing may be warranted then it should determine the general procedure and such a hearing as well 59 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:47,120 So 60 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:55,450 this here would be the next part with council quickie to determine 61 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:58,670 to go to discussion then, and then, yes. 62 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:59,270 So, 63 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:08,920 if there's an option for the council to discuss it, 64 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,460 and to provide the opportunity for a quickie 65 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:13,120 to speak if she wishes to. 66 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,060 So, first are the council's discussion, 67 00:06:15,380 --> 00:06:17,600 and then the council are quickie to be 68 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,860 in the council so directs or authorizes. 69 00:06:28,370 --> 00:06:29,790 So, right now that the council, 70 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:32,190 any council deliberation? 71 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:33,150 Yep, deliberation. 72 00:06:33,150 --> 00:06:37,970 So, are we able to discuss any of the contents of this document now? 73 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:40,350 It's an open session. 74 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:45,310 I guess I would recommend that it would be discussed in very general terms and not specific 75 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:53,570 terms for data privacy reasons, but you all had a chance to look at it, you know, outside 76 00:06:53,570 --> 00:06:54,690 of the public setting. 77 00:06:55,590 --> 00:07:03,230 So, if you can recall from that information with you think of this, what you've seen 78 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:09,830 warrants going further with a hearing at which time it could be discussed in more detail. 79 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:12,550 We're just looking at the hearing at this point. 80 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:22,080 And there might be other avenues for data practices and to try to figure out the way to properly 81 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,300 we provide additional information in exchange in an open setting. 82 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,320 But for this purpose here, you know, keeping it tighter to the best I think is preferred 83 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:39,180 by the city attorney as far as, you know, open discussion. 84 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:40,780 But it is an open view. 85 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:44,800 Do we know why the city attorney isn't here around the phone? 86 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,280 There was a scheduling problem, but she might be able to be by phone. 87 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,020 and she was traveling, 88 00:07:57,590 --> 00:07:58,810 but she put her on, I can try. 89 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,300 You don't want to speak to you at a time? 90 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:21,260 No, I mean, I just seem like we have some pretty important stuff on the agenda. 91 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,240 We don't have legal cousins. 92 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:28,540 Now we have an open meeting and we can't really discuss it openly. 93 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:42,570 I don't, I don't know. I guess I don't know. It seems like first of them are right on Facebook. I don't like things that some of the 94 00:08:42,570 --> 00:08:47,870 thousand members have put on Facebook. I try not to post stuff on Facebook. 95 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:53,230 I don't know that anything good. 96 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:56,010 We're going to come up with it when you turn aside somebody on Facebook. 97 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:00,690 I don't know. We can't stop people from doing that. 98 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:01,930 That's why you 99 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:05,990 said you were, you let your, 100 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:07,510 yeah, the only thing I would say is perhaps 101 00:09:07,510 --> 00:09:13,310 I would not be colorated, and so, I think there should be, 102 00:09:13,510 --> 00:09:14,650 if you, if 103 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,720 you should let this go, it's like I'm a president. 104 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:25,470 Anything, you have your opinion and you want to just wait 105 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:25,950 until you, 106 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,420 many times, and you say there are some auditions here 107 00:09:42,420 --> 00:09:45,020 that you believe in, okay? 108 00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:46,020 Councilmanion? 109 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:49,160 I am, 110 00:09:51,210 --> 00:10:01,610 I'm a command about it. On the one hand, I think that the allegations that are 111 00:10:01,610 --> 00:10:09,850 made are sufficiently serious and are of the nature of the council's relations with 112 00:10:09,850 --> 00:10:15,980 staff in such a way that we cannot let it slide. 113 00:10:18,310 --> 00:10:28,710 But I'm also concerned that in the four years and four years 114 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:33,450 plus almost five now that I've been interested in and involved 115 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:36,330 in the affairs of the State Government and Fairmont, 116 00:10:36,330 --> 00:10:49,630 We've had constant turmoil, constant back and forth, and constant, 117 00:10:54,460 --> 00:11:00,120 let's say less 118 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,800 than complimentary discussions. 119 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:14,580 And I am deeply concerned about the effect that all of this has on the city's ability 120 00:11:14,580 --> 00:11:24,780 to hire and retain staff. And in particular, here we are, we're about to go out looking for a new 121 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:32,880 city administrator. Our reputation for the last time that we went looking for a city administrator 122 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:42,840 was so terrible that we wound up having to go through two rounds of searching. And it's, for other reasons, 123 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:52,960 It's only gotten worse now, and pursuing this will only make it even that much worse. 124 00:11:55,210 --> 00:11:55,990 So I'm torn. 125 00:12:09,550 --> 00:12:10,030 I'm 126 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:20,100 just saying harassment at any level should never be colored and city staff is only doing 127 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:26,600 their job and art conversations with them should be in professional light and not in a 128 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,360 tone where they go harassed and on Facebook they're getting chewed out by a combo member because 129 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,080 it comes with members like what they said and the local might have become so in a way it's 130 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,520 protection and I think that city staff or in the city, 131 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,620 a minister doing what they come here 132 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:43,960 would find that to be a little bit more favorable than, 133 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,920 no, and they could get kind of hurt or bullied. 134 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:49,560 I acknowledge that. 135 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,760 At the same time, oh, you know, inevitable. 136 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:56,840 No matter what we do, we make the effort to do that, 137 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,580 it's more toxic. 138 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,800 I don't think there's any way around it, 139 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,780 because it's not so much. 140 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,140 If you wanted to stop, then it was easier. 141 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:04,800 Councilor Ruben, anything? 142 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,480 My Mr. Moor is conduit. 143 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,740 You know, I know all of the subjects involved in this complaint 144 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:18,460 and I think it's kind of like a car accident 145 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:23,780 where you have some responsibility just being on the road, 146 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,420 public officials know, and in most situations 147 00:13:28,420 --> 00:13:32,360 that I've seen get paid more than in private sector 148 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,320 to deal with some of this. 149 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,040 Like I said, I don't like Facebook, 150 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:40,040 I don't like putting the emotional failures on Facebook, 151 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,180 you know, up and up, up, up, up, up, up, up. 152 00:13:44,180 --> 00:13:44,840 Up, up, up, up, up, up, up and up. 153 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:46,420 Up, up, up, up, up, up. 154 00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:46,420 But, 155 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:49,860 up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. 156 00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:49,880 But, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. 157 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,500 I don't know, I just think, 158 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,400 I look down this agenda. 159 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,400 We can't get along. 160 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:56,560 It's the honest. 161 00:13:56,940 --> 00:13:59,920 The citizens of Pharma have put five of us here 162 00:14:01,060 --> 00:14:04,220 and expect us to do what's best for the city of Pharma. 163 00:14:06,830 --> 00:14:08,670 And it doesn't seem like we can do that. 164 00:14:08,910 --> 00:14:10,950 So I don't know where to go. 165 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:14,710 You know, I see the thing that if you try to please everybody, 166 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:16,430 it's never going to happen. 167 00:14:17,330 --> 00:14:21,010 But I think we stop a lot of things from happening 168 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:26,810 that was town because we can't get along, you know, in the past the main thing has been 169 00:14:26,810 --> 00:14:32,570 the community center. We got to get some things figured out so we can, so we can mean 170 00:14:32,570 --> 00:14:40,030 that some common ground and go forward, you know, bring an allegations against council members by staff. 171 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:46,810 Yeah, it's serious but I mean, I could walk by, she's country and he could bring an allegation that 172 00:14:46,810 --> 00:14:49,410 that I set something brought it to it. 173 00:14:49,770 --> 00:14:52,270 So where is it going to stop? 174 00:14:52,850 --> 00:14:53,750 What's going to happen? 175 00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:57,990 I've had some candid conversations and staffs sometimes, 176 00:14:58,510 --> 00:14:59,970 one of those after-cultures. 177 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:11,280 We talked about it later. You know, I was brought under the bridge, so I, I don't know. I don't know where it's at. 178 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:35,670 It's not, it's a hearing, but just a, just a, just a clarify. Yeah, I know. I do that, too. So is it just one side, one party, or is it both parties? No, when council, four council members are done kind of discussing. 179 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:43,110 in House of Quicky, it has her time to speak also a few, is going to do so, or if you want to. 180 00:15:43,570 --> 00:15:45,990 And what's the end result of this? 181 00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,470 We're just here to say, do we take this to the next level for her here? 182 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:54,750 Right, but I'm not saying what, if we took her to a hearing, what could the action be? 183 00:15:55,810 --> 00:16:02,750 So, at the hearing then, you determine whether or not the complaint justifies a sanction under the 184 00:16:02,750 --> 00:16:10,450 code of conduct policy, which is a, there's three things, removal from a board is one, 185 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:12,890 censure is another one. 186 00:16:13,710 --> 00:16:18,390 There are criminal proceedings too, if it's that bad, that can result. 187 00:16:19,010 --> 00:16:23,730 So I think those are the ones, if you look in the code of conduct, it's on the very last 188 00:16:23,730 --> 00:16:26,590 paragraph of what the sanctions are. 189 00:16:26,590 --> 00:16:27,290 And 190 00:16:30,910 --> 00:16:48,530 it's different for a council member than a staff person because you are voted, you are voted in by constituents, and you can't be kicked off the council, but there's some things that can be done to kind of, you know, provide some level of discipline. 191 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:07,340 I 192 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:15,360 mean, I could, I could say I thought that way it pretty much has to come from the go-to. 193 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,540 I feel that way for itself. 194 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:23,480 I did not vote for this policy because I knew what the justice of the policy was. 195 00:17:48,330 --> 00:18:01,230 If the council were to adopt a resolution of censure, then the person, you know, it would be on record that that person's actions were disapproved by the council. 196 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Yeah, I think I mean, and yeah, so I would like it noted that the investigation in the 197 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:30,080 cost $15,000 or more, and I would also like it noted that in the 26 pages, almost 80, 198 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,420 90% of it was emails from me. 199 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:39,620 there were no exhibits provided and there was almost no data in there at all 200 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:46,920 showing anything that I did that was slander or harassment and it took four 201 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,000 months for it to be completed so 202 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,220 I in my opinion in the opinion of my attorney 203 00:18:54,220 --> 00:19:00,480 there is no harassment or bullying now as to the substance I'm voting yes or no 204 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,500 as to how to vote on the resolution for censure hearing on me, I know it's the following. 205 00:19:06,340 --> 00:19:12,120 First, the complaint that issue against me arises out of an investigation initiated by a city's 206 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:17,660 former administrator. That administrator is no longer an employee and this council is aware 207 00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:23,980 of why that is the case. The administrator is subordinate to the council. I repeatedly asked 208 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:29,420 the city administrator to explain what empowered him to investigate and the elected representative 209 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:31,380 and he gave no coherent answer. 210 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:33,300 You all have an email. 211 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,560 The City Administrator used city resources 212 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,940 to conduct an investigation that this council did not 213 00:19:39,940 --> 00:19:44,980 authorize and which the administrator initiated, over $15,000. 214 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:49,940 This council cannot condone or support this behavior. 215 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:52,440 And for this reason alone, I ask you 216 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,520 to vote no on a hearing for centers. 217 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:02,120 Second, the report of investigation is 26 pages long, exclusive of exhibits. 218 00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:05,700 That report was shown to me only today. 219 00:20:06,730 --> 00:20:10,140 I was not given a report in spite of my repeated request. 220 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,260 Unless copies were provided to other council members in advance, this council is being asked 221 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:23,500 to act on 26 pages of complicated, factual, and legal issues with no meaningful opportunity 222 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:31,360 to digest the information. Again, that is an independent reason to, again, both know. Third, 223 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:38,260 as to the substance of the allegations against me, again, I am at a disadvantage in that 224 00:20:38,260 --> 00:20:44,200 the only document delivered to me in advance of today was a single page summary dated December 12, 225 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:52,760 2024. However, I note the following. Finding one says any sustained findings of council member 226 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:59,260 incivility and or harassment or to city employee conduct prohibited by council rules of procedure and 227 00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:07,740 quota conduct is subject to independent review by the council. One, some refining one does not say 228 00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:14,660 what portions of the rules of procedure or quota conduct you find or govern incivility or harassment 229 00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:22,700 toward a city employee. Two, in fact, the words harassment or civility do not appear in those 230 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:29,930 documents. B, finding two, says that I criticize and personally and professionally 231 00:21:29,930 --> 00:21:31,730 align city staff. 232 00:21:33,970 --> 00:21:37,230 It goes on to say that the city's policy against harassment and 233 00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:39,510 prevention protects city staff from such behavior. 234 00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:43,440 One, city's policy against 235 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,400 workplace harassment and violence only govern city employees. Council members are 236 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:55,680 not employees. No one can violate a policy that does not govern them. Again, what 237 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,720 What we have here is a city employee turning government upside down. 238 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:06,160 Two, summary finding two goes on again to invoke the rules of procedure and code of conduct. 239 00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:12,240 As with summary finding one, summary finding two makes no attempt to identify which portion 240 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,660 of the rules a procedure or code of conduct are at issue. 241 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,920 And as with summary finding one, there are no such provisions that prohibit or even define 242 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,660 criticism or alignment. 243 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:27,660 See, finding three is the most egregious. 244 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:33,660 In short, it alleges that I used Facebook to communicate to the citizens of Fairmont that 245 00:22:33,660 --> 00:22:39,780 I was the subject of an investigation and to point out flaws with that investigation. 246 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:45,020 It further alleges that I was told by a city employee to keep the matter confidential. 247 00:22:45,940 --> 00:22:48,640 Yes, that allegation is 100% true. 248 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,580 The former administrator, who is neither a licensed attorney, nor in a position of authority 249 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:59,560 over the council, did initially tell me that the investigation was to be kept confidential, 250 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:01,320 which you all saw. 251 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,980 In response, I asked him why. 252 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,520 I made specific references to specific sections of the Minnesota Government Data Practices Act. 253 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:19,520 In response, his response was vague, at best, and made no explanation as to why an individual 254 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,300 So elected representative would be subject to the act or why any specific information I 255 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:28,660 learned would be designated as private by said act. 256 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:35,420 Most importantly, I eventually got him to admit that the existence of the act's investigation 257 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:37,240 was not confidential. 258 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:46,280 He did so in his email on October 1, 2024 at 3.38 pm, which I believe is in an exhibit to 259 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:53,020 the report which is not included. Finally, we have the fact that I did not participate 260 00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:58,340 in this investigation, so I could not possibly have learned and could not have disclosed 261 00:23:58,340 --> 00:24:04,520 any confidential information. To a trained reader, the flaws in this investigation and the 262 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:11,340 report are glaringly evident. One, the investigation was done by an experienced attorney. Two, the 263 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:13,840 investigation took months to complete. 264 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,840 Three, the report is 26 pages long. 265 00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:21,920 And yet, finding three says only that my conduct may constitute 266 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,540 a violation if I disclose non-public, private, 267 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,940 or confidential information. 268 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:29,760 That is carefully crafted. 269 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:32,640 That is a carefully crafted non-statement. 270 00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:37,200 That statement is no different than if the findings had said 271 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,880 that I may have committed murder. 272 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,440 If, in fact, I killed someone, you might appreciate that statement, you wonder. 273 00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:48,440 Both of those statements are true but completely devoid of content. 274 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:52,020 The investigator had two months and 26 pages. 275 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,080 My statement at issue wasn't writing, and yet the investigator could not identify a single 276 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,000 word of my statement that was non-public, private, or confidential. 277 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,860 The Minnesota Government Data Practices Act includes clear definitions of each of those 278 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:08,160 terms. 279 00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:13,420 Yet this trained and experienced investigator could not tell you what data I disclosed 280 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:18,540 or what provision of the statute made that data non-public, private, or confidential. 281 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,400 In short, finding three is no finding at all. 282 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,560 But the most egregious thing about finding three is that it suggests that an elected representative 283 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,420 of the citizens of Fairmont could be censored 284 00:25:31,420 --> 00:25:34,080 by telling the citizens what their city government is doing. 285 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Specifically, that I could tell the citizens 286 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,460 that their city was wasting time and their money 287 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:44,200 on an activity, and then the employee who undertook 288 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,580 that activity could initiate an investigation against me. 289 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,900 And that I could be censored by the substance 290 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,820 of that investigation itself, could remain confidential. 291 00:25:54,050 --> 00:25:56,820 For the councils even contemplate a vote of censure 292 00:25:56,820 --> 00:26:01,140 under those facts would be an attack on Democrats' democracy itself. 293 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:06,380 Finally, as to why you should not vote to hold a hearing for censure as to me, 294 00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:11,360 I know as with this hearing, if there is a hearing for censure as to me, 295 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,180 it will be a public hearing. 296 00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,180 The citizens of Fairmont will fully know and understand how city employees, 297 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:22,480 employees who are supposed to be subordinate to the citizens via their elected representatives, 298 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,240 We're allowed to use citizen resources to attack a representative who ran and was elected 299 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,740 under government accountability. 300 00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:31,380 Thank you. 301 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:33,600 Thank you, Councilor. 302 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,420 Thank you, Dr. Jeff. 303 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,940 We just move on to the next question. 304 00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:37,820 Again, continue. 305 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:38,680 Please, Councilor Members. 306 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,040 We must now deliberate on the conclusion of our discussions and whether a hearing on 307 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,700 the point may be warranted. 308 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:50,080 If so, then it should determine the general process of which hearing as well, which City 309 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,580 the minister only likely has a recommendation on. So let's proceed. 310 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,220 There's the motions we 311 00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:04,260 can do. Yeah. It is we go through them. Right. There's the options. You can present those 312 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:12,180 options that were laid in front of me. Option one, you do nothing. Option two, conduct a 313 00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:18,640 hearing, uncomplaint against council. Remember, quicky, under city code of conduct. And a is 314 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,240 the City Council hold a hearing under City Code of Conduct on the complaint against Council Member 315 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,820 Clikki. Be the City Administrator on the Hill, consult a legal council to draft and provide an 316 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:35,000 appropriate communication to Council Member Clikki and City Council on the process for the hearing 317 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:39,920 and see the City continue this agenda item to a subsequent date. 318 00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:43,690 And that's all from legal. 319 00:27:54,090 --> 00:28:08,900 If we were to vote to hold a hearing on this, which of those options would be under two and then the City Council A, 320 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,960 the City Council hold a hearing under the City Code of Conduct on the complaint against Councilmember Quick. 321 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,840 So the option to letter eight is that one. 322 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,540 Jeff, you got something here? 323 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:32,240 I'm a short timer here, and I don't really know how this common plays into it all. 324 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,080 But I just want you to know that whatever the circumstances are that have resulted in 325 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:44,960 this kind of conflict between staff and counsel that I think I have the wherewithal on a plan 326 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,240 in place to try to build bridges back up and try to move forward in a positive way. 327 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:56,820 And I, it is probably in the place in time to discuss it all, but it involves more accountability 328 00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:02,500 for city staff in a positive way, positive accountability, better connection with council 329 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,640 and staff initiative so that they merge and collaborate. 330 00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:15,080 And respect for all positions on the council and all needs for information for the staff 331 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,600 to meet you where you're at individually. 332 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:25,600 And I don't know if that was the well spring of all these issues, but that would be something I would be committed to try to 333 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Building more of a team with the staff. 334 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,900 So to the extent that that even relates to what we're talking about, I don't know, but I wanted to mention that. 335 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:42,980 The city of Kodakana B where you would consult legal counsel to draft, they would say that would be option B under number two. 336 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:43,360 Yeah. 337 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:52,150 And just, if we go to a boat house, it will be also heavy, but just let her know that 338 00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:53,890 she has her own boat. 339 00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:55,210 And it calms me down. 340 00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:58,950 I received myself from boarding estimates in Virginia. 341 00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:01,800 I 342 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:14,710 will read 343 00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:41,390 it, and I will do it. So, if councilor Maynard has indicated a motion to conduct a hearing on complaint against councilmember clicky, under City Code of Conduct A, the City Council will hold a hearing under the City Code of Conduct on the complaint against councilmember click. That is, that is 2A. 344 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:59,340 And maybe it would be the end of it, would that letter be the, no, then you'd have to 345 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:00,460 conduct the hearing itself. 346 00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:01,820 There is, there is. 347 00:31:01,940 --> 00:31:02,060 Okay. 348 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,480 At the end. 349 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,460 I already be just so you can hear it. 350 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:08,820 The City of Minister on the O consult with legal counsel to draft and provide an appropriate 351 00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:15,300 communication to councilmember Quikky and City Council on the process for the hearing. 352 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,040 That is. 353 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Oh, okay. 354 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,980 So, so that didn't really have any? 355 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Oh, you're right. 356 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:20,800 It wasn't what you were. 357 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,380 That's okay. 358 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,560 That was just a. 359 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:23,700 All right. 360 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:29,980 So, so two A, B and C all go together in the process of conducting here. 361 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,940 That's correct. 362 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:31,280 All right. 363 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,940 Well, let's see is that the city continue this agenda item to a subsequent date. 364 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,900 To hold the here. 365 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Right. 366 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,700 So, yes. 367 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:39,440 All right. 368 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:46,120 So, in that case, I will instead move that we adopt option two as a holder. 369 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:53,540 So we have a motion from Councillor Maynard, 370 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:59,750 second by Councillor Miller, and I will read 371 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:05,690 again so there is a motion by Councillor Maynard, a second by Miller, to conduct a hearing 372 00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:11,270 on the complaint against Councillor Member, quicky, under City Code of Conduct, do you wish 373 00:32:11,270 --> 00:32:14,430 I read A, B and C then, just again, I don't think you need. 374 00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:18,190 So that would be under City Code of Conduct, A, B, and C. 375 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:24,870 With that, I will have a motion in a second. 376 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:26,730 I will do a roll call on this. 377 00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:29,570 And Councillor Rubinot? 378 00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:30,150 No. 379 00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:32,130 Councillor Miller? 380 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:32,550 Yes. 381 00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:35,540 Councillor Hasick? 382 00:32:42,580 --> 00:32:43,440 Councillor Maynard? 383 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,860 Yes. 384 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,480 And Councillor Quickie? 385 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 right to that 386 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,000 motion passed, but 387 00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:02,470 no, we don't go out of that, that's good. 388 00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:10,010 We need a potential date, but that, okay, okay, okay, 389 00:33:13,010 --> 00:33:20,390 okay, okay, right, right, so we 390 00:33:20,390 --> 00:33:22,450 and work at 20, but that's in COS. 391 00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:23,470 It's absolutely. 392 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,060 Okay, moving on to what they call script two. 393 00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,700 The agenda item is preliminary consideration 394 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,780 of allegations against individual subjects 395 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:40,900 to city council authority and the Minnesota Statue of Section 396 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,620 13D.05 subdivision 2B. 397 00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:48,000 The individual is council member Wayne Hasick. 398 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,860 Council member Hasick, you wish to have this 399 00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:51,960 meeting open to the public. 400 00:33:56,590 --> 00:34:01,310 Okay, so then this portion of the meeting will be 401 00:34:01,310 --> 00:34:08,050 closed, pursued to Minnesota Statute Section 13B05, Subdivision 2B, because the 402 00:34:08,050 --> 00:34:11,890 City Council will be considering allegations against the individual subjects to 403 00:34:11,890 --> 00:34:16,270 its authority. I will now entertain a motion to close this portion of the meeting. 404 00:34:16,270 --> 00:34:25,170 to move. Second motion by Maynard. Second by Miller. All those in favor. Aye. All 405 00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:35,060 those opposed. That motion passed. And I will settle. We'll have to leave. So 406 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:47,720 the time 407 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:55,860 is 4.44 p.m. The City Council stays absent. If it's an open meeting. He can come back. Yeah. 408 00:34:55,860 --> 00:35:03,180 So, members, we'll now go into open meeting and so if you want to go get Mr. Cassidy again, 409 00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:11,570 so I guess before he comes back 410 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:17,490 I can say following the closed meeting for primary consideration of allegations against a city council member 411 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:24,270 The city council meeting is now open and the time is 5.0.2 pm and 412 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,840 again Wayne would be able to vote on this 413 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,320 So we are to the point of motion and a vote, so you are allowed to be here for this. 414 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:05,360 So members, I will now entertain a motion as following, or I should say here's the options 415 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,940 and we've been through them once with the first meeting we had, number one, we do nothing. 416 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:16,100 And two, you know what them are, those are the conductive hearing on complaint against 417 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:23,400 council member has it under the three different city code A, B, and C. We are also brought to attention 418 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:31,420 that we could split them up so that there was one against harassment or verbal abuse or however you 419 00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:40,000 want it would word it or we can put it towards Williamson structure would you? Yeah see some 420 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:47,020 this is an associated exercise of power beyond one council member it's hard to 421 00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:50,660 describe it but I think we don't we're talking about it's all narrated we 422 00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:53,720 can come up with a better description in the minutes so what that 423 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:58,440 members is there is somebody that has a motion on one or both or together or how 424 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:08,540 would you like to have a motion so there would be we would separate them between 425 00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:17,760 the use the word harassment or and then the possible allegations for election 426 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,540 undue influence on the city of New Australia. 427 00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:25,720 The CC consists, I did not order that. 428 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,920 Basically I guess what I'd like to say is I 429 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,800 have a conversation where they might 430 00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:47,660 I thought something needed to be done, I'd also had those conversations with a cafe where 431 00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:53,760 the shoe is here, something needed to be done, and when he came in, I started to shake 432 00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:00,600 his finger and one of my employees went up and out with Matt, he says, I'm working on it. 433 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:08,300 We should know that yeah that's outside the boundary so I have a motion by council 434 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:13,480 quickie I believe a second by council Miller to split up the two allegations against 435 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:30,580 uh counselor has a into two separate motions so with that um I will just do a 436 00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:43,410 to split up into, okay, and council members, okay, that motion passed, okay, all right 437 00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:48,570 so now I will entertain motion on, 438 00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:55,120 I'll do the first one, I'll work the harassment part, 439 00:38:55,620 --> 00:39:03,020 okay, so I will entertain a motion as following on code of conduct against councilor 440 00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:17,620 Hasick on the harassment when we split up the motions. So now you have the option of be nothing on that part or conduct a hearing a complaint against councilmember hasick under the three A B and C city folks beyond 441 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:23,430 the 442 00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:36,240 Emotion and Councilor Maynard to to option one do nothing do I have a second 443 00:39:40,030 --> 00:39:50,570 Yes. Second. Second by Councillor Hasick. Okay, so we have a motion against harassment, 444 00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:59,210 against Councillor Hasick, and to do nothing, we had a motion by a manor, second by Hasick. 445 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:02,670 I'll do roll call. Councillor Quikki is paying for this. Councillor Lubano. 446 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:09,710 Councillor Hasick. 447 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:17,520 do you have any? Yes. Do you do not go any further with the 448 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:25,260 harassment? Drop it. Drop it. No is dropping it? No is to not drop it. Yes yes drop it. 449 00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:30,300 Drop it. Do you have a councilmanor? Yes. 450 00:40:35,790 --> 00:40:41,870 I will move with a yes vote and that no excuse me so that's a no vote. 451 00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:47,090 Mayor Bart's, that's a no vote, and that motion failed. 452 00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:52,030 Motion 453 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,680 by Miller, second by Lumenau, correct? 454 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,760 Oh, sorry, motion by Lumenau, second by Lumenau. 455 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:09,440 I have the motion by Councillor Lumenau, second by Miller, to entertain a motion following 456 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,580 on item 457 00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:20,280 two, code of conduct hearing, against Councillor Member Hasick, on harassment 458 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:28,540 I'm going to go through there. Councilor McKee is out. Councilor Rubenau? Yes. Councilor Miller? 459 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Councilor Hasick? No. Councilor Maynard? No. Mayor Bartz? Yes. That motion passed. 460 00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:44,940 So we will have a hearing against for the harassment part for councilor Hasick. 461 00:41:46,990 --> 00:41:48,650 So now we need a motion 462 00:41:50,390 --> 00:42:00,750 for the undue influence on the election results are around or on the elections and 463 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,200 that 464 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,100 would be the same thing. One we do nothing. 465 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,820 So I have a motion by Councillor 466 00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:21,640 Quikki. Do I have a second? Second by Councillor Lubin out. And this was to conduct a hearing 467 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,120 on the state again they're 468 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,740 complaining to them to influence by 469 00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:26,700 councilmember on the city 470 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:30,970 administrator okay and I will do 471 00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:32,170 roll call and I'll just go to my 472 00:42:32,170 --> 00:42:34,550 lab councilor quickie council 473 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:36,910 Lubinow yes councilor Miller 474 00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:41,530 councilor Hasick you and council 475 00:42:41,530 --> 00:42:45,250 mayor no and that passed okay 476 00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:45,910 for 477 00:42:48,250 --> 00:42:50,130 those two items we split or 478 00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:52,270 done they're done some if you have 479 00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:54,430 time not really 480 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:24,800 Okay, so the next one is the agenda. I am of the preliminary consideration of allegations against individual subject to City Council of the 40 under Minnesota Statue Section 13 D05 subdivision to be the individual as City Councilman or J Maynard Councilman or Maynard. You wish to have this meeting open to the public. No. 481 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:31,640 So this portion of the meeting will be closed, pursued as Minnesota Statue Section 13-G-05, 482 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:37,120 Subdivision 2-B, because of City Council, considering allegations against the individual 483 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,360 subject to its authority. 484 00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:41,880 I will entertain a motion to close this portion of the meeting. 485 00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:48,420 Motion by Correct E. Second by Miller, all those in favor. 486 00:43:49,340 --> 00:43:50,600 All those opposed? 487 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:58,900 that motion passed. The time is 5, 10 p.m. We 488 00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:05,590 will now go into open meeting so now we can bring him back in. 489 00:44:07,090 --> 00:44:09,790 He's got the routine. We'll get through it. 490 00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:41,190 Following a close meeting for preliminary considerations of allegations against the city council member, the city council meeting is now open at a time of 5, 16 p.m. 491 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:49,770 And members, I will now entertain a motion to determine if we're going to leave them together or split them up. 492 00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:50,330 Okay. 493 00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:56,990 I have a motion from Councillor Cowicky to split up the two. 494 00:44:58,910 --> 00:44:59,970 And I had to send a link and I had to send a link and I had to send a link. 495 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,860 Council go ahead a second. All those in favor of splitting up the two allegations, councilor. 496 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:28,790 Okay, so we know there's the two options of do nothing and the conduct of hearing option two. So we'll start with the bullying or the verbal abuse or the outbreak. So I am looking for a motion. 497 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:39,370 So I'm looking for a motion on item either one or two from council on the bullying part against councilman 498 00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:44,530 harassment. 499 00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:45,290 For harassment. 500 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:45,850 Oh, first. 501 00:45:46,830 --> 00:45:47,230 Yeah, behavior. 502 00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:50,730 So we'll start with that. 503 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:55,450 So members of any kind of motion as following for the harassment with councilor Maynard, 504 00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:59,270 if you're option one or option two. 505 00:46:02,310 --> 00:46:08,410 I have a motion from Councilor Lubinow and a second from Councilor Miller. 506 00:46:09,390 --> 00:46:15,810 I will do roll call and answer this, here is motion to move forward with a hearing for 507 00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:19,230 the harassment against Councilor 508 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:31,400 Miller, Councilor Miller, and Mr. Mayor says, yes, because 509 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:45,000 I need a motion under the influence of a City Administrator on the election. 510 00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:52,320 I have a motion from Councillor Quikki second from Lubinow and 511 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:57,380 this would be the do a hearing 512 00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:00,440 on the complaint against member Maynard under the city code. 513 00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:02,360 Councilor Quikki? 514 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:02,740 Yes. 515 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,300 Councilor Lubinau? 516 00:47:04,580 --> 00:47:04,700 Yes. 517 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:05,780 Councilor Miller? 518 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:06,200 Yes. 519 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Councilor Hasek? 520 00:47:10,540 --> 00:47:11,240 Councilor Maynard? 521 00:47:12,260 --> 00:47:19,850 A motion passed that the city would hold a hearing under the city code of conduct on both 522 00:47:20,650 --> 00:47:22,310 complaints against Councilor Maynard? 523 00:47:25,450 --> 00:47:25,870 Yes, then. 524 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:42,610 I will now entertain a motion to adjourn the special meeting of the City Council with the time being 5.19 p.m. 525 00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:43,690 Second. 526 00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:44,870 Motion by Miller. 527 00:47:45,350 --> 00:47:46,290 Second by Kuwiki. 528 00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:47,410 All those in favor? 529 00:47:47,770 --> 00:47:48,110 Aye. 530 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:49,650 All those against? 531 00:47:50,330 --> 00:47:51,410 I don't hear you. 532 00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:53,350 Meeting adjourned. 533 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:56,600 Question. 534 00:47:57,620 --> 00:47:59,740 The hearing will be... 535 00:47:59,740 --> 00:48:01,860 Hold on, hold on, do we leave this here, Jim? 536 00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:04,500 I leave everything here, yeah, nothing leaves the room, 537 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:05,880 otherwise I'd chase you down. 538 00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:06,260 Yep.