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Thank you.

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Mr. Voss. Mr. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol.

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Vice Mayor Denglo.

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Thank you.

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So we'll get to pre-liminary matters here, approval of methods for the regular city council of August the 11th meeting.

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Motion to approve. Second. All in favor?

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Hi.

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Right.

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Agenda additions, deletions and adoptions.

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I just have one.

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The subject of the Homiston Board work.

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And I was wondering if the city manager would mind moving his portion of the

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bid into that discussion topics, so we just, all in one, that'd be great.

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All right, great.

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Thank you.

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Motion approved agenda change.

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Second, all in favor?

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Aye.

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OK.

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So, proclamations and recognitions by console, the green heart tribe.

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Okay, those who frequent the bear island of an ocean drive in the surrounding area, Cardinal,

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this notice that there's some nice new plantains, some lighting and some really nice improvements

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there.

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And just a sproclamation is the recognition of the organization that's put this together.

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And before I read the proclamation, I'd like to go ahead and play the video to give everyone

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idea what's going on there.

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And I'm with Catherine Faulkner.

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She is with I.L. landscape.

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If we didn't have her, we wouldn't have any of this.

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She has become our go-to person for everything beautiful on ocean dry.

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In addition to that,

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Catherine has designed, I think, every installation.

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And she works with Peter Benedict from my L.O.L. landscape.

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He's our son, Hero. I'm always saying that.

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But Peter came to us right in the beginning three years ago.

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And he wanted to participate in the Green Heart Tribe when nobody even knew who we were.

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We are so honored to be a head of this project.

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What is your favorite part of the installation?

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I know what my corner is.

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Okay.

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Okay, sure.

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Actually, we did the two sections of pots.

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That's sex and pausa.

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Yes.

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I looked at the sex and sign.

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And I thought that is so boring.

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It's clean.

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It's grass.

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It's what the city can do.

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But you see it out of the corner.

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You're right.

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So we got to get it by that.

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And then I looked across the street at the fire pole.

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And it was just old hedges.

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is weed, grass, mulch, and as of what we got to do to find out too, but a question for you,

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Captain.

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When you all are working, do you ever have people come up and say, who does this, or

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why are you doing all my goodness, say we weren't for three hours on Ocean Drive, where

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there's an install or dessert task, probably 45 minutes of that, yes, is meeting the residents,

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visitors, tourists, they want to know everything about people.

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People are always surprised and they, they're really proud of it.

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They become very proud of it.

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Like this is my city.

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So I really want to thank everybody.

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All of you.

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Hero Peach, I.E.L.A.L.L. Am scape,

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Catherine, Peter Veniget,

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all of the people that were working with you.

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I encourage everybody to go to our website,

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rempharktrive.com.

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And you will see a lot of what we're doing.

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If you want to donate, we love it.

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Thank you very much.

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If you want to give us some comments or ideas,

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we're always open to that.

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But I want to say thank you

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To the citizens of Farrow Beach, who have really rally and become a part of this,

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face from the bottom of our green park, there's more to come.

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Thank you, Jason.

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Sorry for the technical difficulties.

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It's a good to avoid it.

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I got the audio part.

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All right.

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Proclamation, whereas the Green Heart tribe is a nonprofit organization dedicated in enhancing

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the beauty and character of Viro Beach through community driven beautification initiatives

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and public private partnerships and whereas through the generosity of his donors and

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the dedication of volunteers, the Greenhardt tribe is successfully raised funds to support improvements

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along Ocean Drive corridor, including decorative flower planters, landscaping enhancements, lighting

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improvements and other beautification projects that contribute to a more vibrant and welcoming

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environment and whereas the Greenhardt tribe has worked collaborative, collaboratively with city

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staff, local businesses and community stakeholders to enhance public spaces, promote civic

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pride, and strengthen the unique character of Viro Beach and whereas the organization's effort

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to demonstrate a positive impact that dedicated volunteers community partnerships and filth on

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philanthropic support can have on a quality of life enjoyed by residents and visitors alike.

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Now, therefore, the City Council City of Viro Beach Florida does hereby recognize and come in the

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community, the green hard drive for their outstanding commitment to

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beautification, communities to our ship and enhancement of the ocean

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drive quarter and extend our sincere appreciation of it's to a

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leadership volunteers, donors and supporters for their lasting

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contributions to city of Viro Beach, signed by all city council

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including the city clerk. So thank you. So welcome to come up.

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all of you. We didn't know what we were quite getting into when we started this. We had lunch with

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money and we're insisting on, we need money, we need to do flowers, we need to do this and that,

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and it took us just maybe one lunch to realize there was very little money. So Jordan and Dina and I

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decided let's have a little party and see if people were interested maybe we could raise some money

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and we did that and I think we invited a hundred people and somehow a hundred and ten showed up

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everybody donated and we realized well this really could be something

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so we went through getting a nonprofit, getting an attorney, getting a bookkeeper, learning all those

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things as we went along.

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And it's just been remarkable. And you know, we really do, we say, we thank the city all the time for their cooperation and allowing us to do this.

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And thank you so much for recognizing us. This came as a very big surprise and quite an honor.

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very well. Thank you for your contribution to the community. We're so happy to do it.

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Yeah, Mr. Mayor. I like to add three years ago, I get a call from Cindy and

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invitation to lunch and I'm not knowing what to expect and I get there and meet Dina and Jordan

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and we had a really good lunch and a good education about the city's budget and I was shocked.

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What is that? And I just want to commend them for their vision that they had and their

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just putting their heads to the grindstone and making this happen. It really looks great.

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Thank you very much.

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You actually get a document.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I come over here.

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This way, this way, this way, this way.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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There's a fun part of the meeting, where you go from there, where you go from there.

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all right comes to the consent agenda they are I'd like to pull three a

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since it's the only one so I guess you can't take a motion to approve the

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consent agenda okay so let's get to it then

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I'm pulling, let's discuss it.

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3A, I'm sure everybody looked at the back of material

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and saw that, as I saw on the Hanson summary sheet,

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that base bid A was the bid that we were looking for,

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I've got gas, and base bid A only had two bidters

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and one withdrew because they were not allowed

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to apply the membrane that was requested in the plans on specifications, so which left one

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bit or the roof authority at 7343946 is the only bitter.

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So my question is, and I can't really find out any other way about to ask it, is what

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is the difference between Vacepid A and Vacepid B and is it because this membrane is still proprietary

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there that no one else but the roofing authority here locally can put it on.

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Morning. Morning. Morning.

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Morning. Morning. Morning. So, Vacepid A is a cold membrane. It's more of a rubber material,

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much stronger superior product to what Vacepid B is. Vacepid B is a silicone epoxy.

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A lot easier for that to get damaged and then cause future leaks down the road than base bid A is. A is going to give you 10 to 20 years of what would be similar to like a new roof.

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There is an FTOT specification for this and you have to be certified to be able to apply that.

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Now, it's my knowledge. There's about three companies in the state that are certified to apply this material.

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The other two are Northern half of the state. This is the only one that was closer by,

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so it's probably why they're the only one that bid on that project. For a $900,000 project

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for somebody to travel all the way across the state for it doesn't make too much sense

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because then they have to put people in hotels and so forth.

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Well, I get it, it's a superior product, but I mean,

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we essentially eliminate any of the

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other bidders by going with this product.

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If you're assuming there's only three in a whole state, it would be very hard to get, like

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you said, I agree with you, you know, any other bidders on it.

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So, essentially, if we knew the roofy authority was the only ones that could apply this

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material. I mean, we're basically assigning the project to, in a way. I mean, this is the

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point that used to happen when I was on your side. So all three companies were notified

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that this bid was going out. It wasn't a selected process or anything along those lines.

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We went through the standard city bidding process. If we have a superior product available,

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it's best to use that superior product, especially when it falls within budget.

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So, the original thought was that base bid A probably would be higher than our budget would

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allow for, and that's why we had B and there as well.

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Now, the bidder that came in fit within our budget with 200,000 to spare, so there is room

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for contingency there.

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So, right.

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And then the other person that bid it, obviously, they couldn't get out of the budget.

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They couldn't get out of the budget.

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Yeah, they couldn't get certified through the country. Sorry, certified through the company to apply that and there's there's a lot of

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Specified equipment that's required for this application process. It's not something that every roof and company has to be able to utilize

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Under projections or add projections or over so the the bid the engineers estimate came in at

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$998,000, our budget for it was $900,000, and then they came in at $701.

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So the reason for that is the material estimate cost for application of the material was between

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$4 to $12 a square foot, and the engineers estimate put that at, I believe, $9 a square

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foot, these guys came in at $4, so they came in at the lower end of that range, that's

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why that was cheaper.

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So they'll run the budget. Yes. Yes, with a superior product with a superior product. Yes.

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Well, that sounds like a win-win. I think so as well.

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Thank you.

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Thanks. Motion to approve. Second. All in favour?

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Hi. Okay. Thank you.

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Okay. Public hearing. Ordnuses.

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An ordinance of the City of Arab age Florida amending Article 2 of Chapter 78 of the Code of the City of Arab age.

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Getting to the administration of water, wastewater and reuse water utility services, establishing

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monthly water, wastewater and reuse water rates, establishing fees and charges for city utility

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customers. Establishing a wastewater readiness to serve charge, providing for the repeal,

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a prior rate resolutions, providing for the correction of scriptors' errors and providing

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for an effective date.

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Good morning. Good morning.

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Is that going to work?

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You know, you use it more than I do.

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Now I got to use my glasses to see which button he's.

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In front of you today, and I'm going to go through this very briefly because I think we've seen it two or three times, but I'm not sure who's in the audience or who's watching.

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So I figured I could go ahead and run through it, but this is the abbreviated utility rate study that graph tells

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gave to the utility commission and then to you all a few months back and in front of you today

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is the ordinance that's related to what we discussed in the meeting a couple months back.

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Quick agenda, we're going to go through background revenue requirements, revenue

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sufficiency, findings, and recommendations, and then Q&A. So in the background,

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we have approximately 13,900 water casters, 10,700 waste water casters, and about 100

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reuse casters.

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Water system is two-treat and plants, two-ground storage tanks, two-and-a-miles.

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Waste water system is one-treat and plant, 120 lift stations.

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We're constructing a new waste water-treat and plant that's under construction.

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We're planning a bond issue in February of 2027, hence the reasons for this rates that

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Prior rates study for was performed in 2022, it raised rates anticipation of the wastewater

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treatment plan, but we had costs that went up also, we had COVID fall out from that period

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forward because the actual study probably used 2021 data and as a result we've had inflation

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and that's caused a lot of operating costs.

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Since then, the utility has experienced major operating construction costs increases,

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so the revenue

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requirement is prior to the study versus current project projections.

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If you look at the columns to the left, there's operating expenses is in dark blue and then

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in the lighter greenish blue color is bond costs or death service costs.

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So if you look at the current year, the right now we're operating at 2025, we're operating at very low because we haven't borrowed the money yet, but our operating numbers have already exceeded the previous operating projections that we had.

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if you follow out in future years and you hit year 2029 the operating cost is actually

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the total of both the operating projections that we did in 2022 plus the debt service.

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So revenue requirements, we have anticipated 30 new water and waste water customers. That's new

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construction per year. We have additional 300 septic to sewer waste water

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customers annually projected to connect through the step system. Operating

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expenses are forecasted with an exclamation. I think of 4.1% over the years

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based on the 2026 budget we have today. Capital improvements are 217 million over

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of five-year period, or year period,

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GMP projections account for about $164 million

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that is the water-reclamation facility.

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And the GMP funding actually has changed.

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We will have $100 million of the $125 million

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bond issue go towards the water-reclamation facility

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and our grants now are at 67.3 million dollars.

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Good, jumped.

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Again, operating expenses, the average annual increase is about 4.1% per year.

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You can see that 2026 is about operating about 25.6, and then at 2030, including debt service, all costs, is about 32 million.

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Capital Improvement Program. This year we'll be spending about 80 million, 2027. We'll be spending about 90 million. That's slowly tapers down into 2028.

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When the dark blue, that is the water recommendation facility drops off.

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And then that's left with the capital R and R and other projects that we're doing as far as step system.

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What's not shown in here is now PFAS that we've talked about last week in our meeting.

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So the major projects include the Waste of our Chute and Plant, maintenance building, administration building, water plant structures, equipment, well-field structures for PFAS, reclaimed water storage tank and major equipment projects.

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purchases.

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The Series 2027 revenue bond will. Proceeds will be about $125 million. It will have a 30 year time frame.

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It's estimated at 4.55 percent. I don't know exactly what that number will be until the bonds are sold.

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And it will have an average annual debt service of $8.6 million.

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Major drivers, changes of cost operating transfers that service compared to the prior study.

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If you look at this, you'll see that the additional operating costs per fiscal 2026 is $3 million

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more than what the estimate was from the 2022 study rising to $5 million by 2029.

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The transfers will be additional, however, actually that's no, because your policy that

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implemented the transfers its minus debt service so you won't see that higher numbers as

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you see in that chart. The additional debt service right now we're operating because we

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have a borrowed money at a $2.5 million surplus but by 2029 we'll be $3.5 million

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higher than what we anticipated in the 2022 study and that's a result of the debt

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issuance of $125 million for its $80 million dollars.

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This is the proposed rate change that's

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in the ordinance for a 4,000 gallon user current.

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Finally, the bills are at 83-54. You will have a wastewater increase of 15 percent next year, followed by 15 percent, then 10 and 5, and another slide. I'll show you what changes will occur in a couple of years from now.

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The water customer is 10, 7 and a half, 5 and 5, and the bill change will eventually be from 83, 54 now to 122 dollars by 2030.

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The combined system revenue efficiencies existing in proposed rates, the revenue under projected rates, as long as you have that red line and you're operating below that red line, you're in good shape.

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And then this is your ending cash balances and the minimum target is 180 days.

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We usually require that we'll have a better bond rating with a higher amount of cash reserves

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than if we were just operating at that 180 day number.

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All in debt service coverage, the target is 1.5 over the next five years.

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we will be above that number. Again, this goes to our reading.

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Here's a comparison right now.

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Viro is at 83.54.

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By next year, we'll be at 94.92.

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I can tell you Pompeii and Stuart

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Fort Pierce. I'm not sure about the county, but all of them are looking at raising their rates

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here in the next couple of years,

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finding it's recommended, and do we get that other slide in there,

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we did? Keep going. Oh, my numbers change, there we go, sorry. So this was what we just discussed last

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week, and I was going to try to get the rates change, but we realized that it was too big of a change

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for what was already advertised, and we had to give 30 days notice everybody, so if whoever's here

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today because they got their 30 days notice would be showing up. We would have to postpone it.

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So what we decided was to go ahead and let you all vote on this today, show you the difference

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of what will come in the future. We're still doing a impact the analysis. So that's going to require

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again, notification to the public and a rate change when that goes into effect. And we'll tie this

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change to that in the future.

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So under the original proposal that we just ran through,

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you went from 2027 having a bill, water, and sewer combined bill

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for 4,000 gallon user from 94.92 to 125.

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By using the additional $25 million in putting it on the water

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customers, that changes how the calculations are done.

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you're not going to have as much waste water increases in the future. So the first two years are

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followed by very small increases. However, it does raise the water customers in the future years.

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However, there's more water sales than there is sewer sales. So it delutes that effect

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so that actually when we come back in the future and change the rates, the customer will see at the end of

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in 2030, they will go from down from 122, 45 to 116, 87. So they'll have a $5 and a half dollar savings.

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Can I stop you? I think you're confusing some people because I'm confused, and I know what you're talking about.

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It's not okay. They're not going to increase.

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is drastic. Yes. Because the grant funds are being included in this analysis, the new grant

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funds. Correct. You didn't lead off with that. So why are these things happening?

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Okay. So we received another $25 million in grant funds between when you approved this program

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that you see today and today. The $25 million came from the sea level rise or resiliency funding

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mechanism through the state of Florida. So it's a state project. It will fund again towards

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the water reclamation facility because it flooded in 2004. We were able to show the effects that

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future hurricanes would have on sea level rise and with the chance of actually causing a major

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contamination to the lagoon. We received another $25 million grant. We talked about that $25 million

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grant instead of not borrowing $125 million. We talked about taking that $25 million and borrowing

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it towards the water system so that we can go ahead and move forward with implementing the

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corrections we need and the changes we need to address the federal mandated PFAS issue,

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which is required by 2029 with an extension to 2031. We plan on having all those projects and

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everything we need to implement that done by some time in 2030.

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So to be able to fund and get started immediately, we will, the plan is to borrow the funds

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with this borrowing, $125 million that gives us $25 million to get started with.

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In addition, we still have $10 million in contingency with the Water Reclamation facility.

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I don't anticipate spending $10 million.

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We've been very, very frugal and very, very good with where we've art today with going from

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11 points, something down to 10.

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And I see a couple million dollars more, but not a whole lot.

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So we'll take all those excess funds, put it towards the water system also.

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So these numbers will change again.

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And the question is when do we come back to city council to make the corrections I would say

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no later than two years, but no earlier than one year, no earlier than this time next

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year.

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So I would say the first two years of rates that you see will be what we would look at going

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into effect and then changing it before the October of 2028 timeframe. You got to realize

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that we can't change rates on September 30th and expect them to go into effect on October 1st.

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There's all kinds of programming that has to be done in the billing system. This is pushing it.

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an August change is really putting stress on our billing department to get all the changes in place to

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get it for October 1st. So, sometime in May or June.

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We'll be a good time frame to come back to council and adjust and move the funds. And we'll

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know then where we are with our contingency. So that may even affect this more to where more

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of that gets moved to the water system versus the wastewater system. And the trend is to decrease

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the bill. The trend is to keep it as stable as can be or to lower to lower the impact to the

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typical residential 4,000 gallon, is there?

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Thank you.

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Did that help?

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Yes, thank you.

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I think it helped everybody, right?

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It probably did.

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So anyway, there we are.

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Is there any other questions?

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You can go back and slide 10.

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Are you finished?

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Are you finished?

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With the presentation.

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So I have a question.

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A little bit of share.

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Okay.

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Yeah, right there.

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So total 216 910 360 project costs. That's everything. It doesn't include any

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these your bonds to grants everything. So everything that we do with general

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maintenance and

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maintaining everything over the next

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Yeah, so the and the other sources what is behind that?

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That one kind of

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There's really not much of an impact. It's captured here

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But if I budget buying $2 million worth of steps

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in equipment per year, I have a revenue source that comes in

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because I'm selling it to the customer and I get $2 million

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of revenue coming in.

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But it just captures the total cost of capital.

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Because it's under our capital fund,

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that that's where it's showing it.

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Thank you.

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And then also we had grant, you know, we didn't apply grants for maybe this year that we get from the state.

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In some of those projections of what we had for step maines and stuff. So 2028's going to be a really good time because we'll be finishing up all the installation of all that will have better numbers.

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We can really get fine-tuned with taking into consideration.

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You're not going to be transferring money on debt service and how much buying power that has for debt.

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And then also looking at by 2030 to our existing loans that we have on the deep injection well,

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and some of the other stuff improvements we put in in 2012 will be coming off the book.

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So we can maybe bridge a couple of years

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so that we're not raising rates to cover some of this cost.

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So it 2020 is going to be a really good time

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to run through this again and really get some good numbers

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moving forward of what rates are going to look like.

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Can you go back to slide seven, please?

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Seven now.

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So this says we are assuming an additional 300

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it's septic to sewer wastewater customers annually, but aren't we down to like 700 houses

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that still need to connect?

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We are down to a 600 and something that have to connect, but we're also going outside the

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city limits into the county and then about 150 in the shores.

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So that's another 105.

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So that's really only two and a half years of 300 customers.

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It's in this four-year projection, really, is where it is, after that it just becomes stable.

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Don't forget this also has the readiness to serve charge in it where those customers that are on the step that haven't connected.

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Once we send them letters and notification, they'll have 75 days, and then they'll have to start paying a base bill.

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So that they're paying for debt service, they're paying for the cost of maintaining and the operations of the new treatment plant that they have yet to connect to.

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All right, that's all I wanted to do.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Rob, can you go back to the slide where you had the do chart with the cities and municipalities?

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Yeah, so chart like this can be concerning looking at it with having no additional information prior.

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But, you know, seeing Vera Beach being proposed is number three in the fiscal year 27, but yeah, this chart, you would say it's fair to say that, you know, there's going to over time some leapfrog happening. This isn't permanent.

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You are just changing because the other areas such as Palm Bay, Melbourne, Stuart, they're going to eventually also follow and increasing their rates.

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Yes,

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typically this happens when you build new facilities because they're large capital investments and you jump up to the top and then as everybody starts catching up to you and building new facilities then they start catching up or passing you.

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And so it's always a leapfrog with communities over time.

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Pompeii is about to embark on new water facility also switching to RO like we have

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same problem that we have also they're they just finished up or there's still not complete

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with a wastewater expansion and they're going right into another expansion doubling

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the capacity of their wastewater system.

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Does the county have enough capacity to connect everyone that's not connected?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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the capacity for the septic sewer and no more growth, or continue growth, and then build new

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capacity for both the growth and septic sewer. The same with the water system. The water system

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is needing additional for future capacity, you know, for growth. Port St. Lucy is right now in

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the middle of building, not forcing Lucy St. Lucy County is in the middle of building two water,

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two million gallon a day water treatment plants and a wastewater two million

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young day wastewater treatment plant. So those rates will get affected.

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Portsaint Lucy, I know they had limestone softening. They're probably running into

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the same problem. We are with PFAS, so they're going to have an impact. Stuart,

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they did a quick fix for their PFAS problems because it really affected them.

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Their long-term goal is to abandon everything, switch to all RO like we are.

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They're going to have the same effect. Melbourne, not too sure, but they still pull water off of

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Lake Washington. I can tell you that seeing with stormwater levels of p-fosses at 12 parts

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per trillion, they may be running into problems with that type of treatment and have to put something in

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effect. So right now, there's everybody is jogging for trying to figure out how to correct

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you know, the federal mandates of what we've seen come down and meet those targeted deadlines.

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Hence the reason...

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And while it's important to get moving before deadlines and extended deadlines so that we're not bumping up against

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not enough contractors or inflated costs and construction to get those types of things done.

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So, Robert, current capacity is 12 million gallons, right? 12 MGD for your to new facility.

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It'll be right between the 11 and 12 million by the time I figure out the fine tune in.

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the county has a comparable amount of it's a three. They have a

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comparable amount with their two facilities, but their their

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facilities don't meet the current requirements.

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Now they have our own so their water system is is adequate. There's no

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problem with PFAS with it. I'm just saying growth. Yeah, it would be a

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driving factor with them to increase their their wealth yields and

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and water product. But they're from a waste treatment plant. Oh, from the

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treatment plant, they have two facilities that meet A-W-T standards at their current operating

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levels, and they have one that doesn't. It all depends on, and that deadline is 2034,

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so it's still further out,

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but it depends on if they're putting it out as public access reclaimed

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water not. So the one that's not is going to golf courses which is public access

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reclaim water. It depends on if they were to jockey it or jockey some stuff

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around and figure things out but they're going to have to do something. And they're

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going to have to do something for septic acider and grit. It's quite a few septic

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tanks.

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It's just to say everybody's got to figure out their plan, get things moving,

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And then you'll see the numbers all change over time.

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Well, correctly if I'm wrong, but when we did, when we did the more recent study in 2022,

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I mean, we were basically in third or fourth position at that point with the rates that this council approved at that time.

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Probably.

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I'm not mistaken.

448
00:39:44,580 --> 00:39:46,680
So anticipate to be back there someday.

449
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,520
You see what I'm saying?

450
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:47,980
Yeah.

451
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,220
That's how it works out.

452
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,540
I got it.

453
00:39:51,540 --> 00:40:00,360
Yeah. Yeah. When I worked for Palm Bay years ago, our rates were higher and then I left and came here and within a year,

454
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,980
Melbourne's were higher than Palm Bay. So it just continues to change as you do construction projects.

455
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,280
All right.

456
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:15,490
Any further questions? No, some good. Thanks. Okay. I will attend 12.

457
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:22,070
We'll open this up for a public comment. Please identify yourself and where whether you're a city resident or an

458
00:40:22,070 --> 00:40:22,770
any resident

459
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,060
anybody I talked you and I'm a leathery old bat so excuse me

460
00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:47,360
circun you identify yourself oh I'm terribly sorry poor like I say old

461
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:55,120
bat so Marshall I'm living in city over by the high school and as you can

462
00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:01,860
tell eco freak and cheap skate so my concern is anybody I've talked to around

463
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:06,780
town we're concerned about whether the base rate is rising or the usage rate and

464
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:09,880
and I would love it if the base rate could stay the same

465
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,740
because eco-freex says,

466
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:14,780
hey, you leave the base rate the same

467
00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:17,200
and raise the usage rate only,

468
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,200
that could encourage a little bit of cutting back on waste.

469
00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:24,380
If you keep raising the base rate,

470
00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:27,160
I get a shrug every now and again from people with,

471
00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:28,660
well, you're paying for it.

472
00:41:28,660 --> 00:41:30,480
Why worry about every little drop?

473
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Not helpful.

474
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:45,580
So your $83 is that base rate plus $4,000 for those of us who only use $4,000 a year, what's the base rate?

475
00:41:46,340 --> 00:41:47,600
So interesting.

476
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,520
And thank you.

477
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Thank you.

478
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,100
So the increases were across the board to both the base rate and to the uses charge.

479
00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:03,920
The reason you, when you determine your base rate versus your usage charges, your base

480
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:11,400
rates usually handle debt service plus the cost of operating a plant.

481
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,680
No matter what, you still have to pay for the electric, you have to pay for the people

482
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,360
to be there.

483
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:23,200
The usage deals with chemical costs, additional electrical costs, operating costs, the main

484
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,360
You don't put everything in the base rate because it would be really, really, really high and the uses charge would be really, really low.

485
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:48,400
So you can kind of find a blend because if you look at a utility, there's a lot of required cost to be there to maintain it no matter what all of your debt for capital replacement of pipes, all of that would have to be in it you would actually have a very, very high base rate.

486
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,400
We have a good blend of base rate to usage.

487
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,700
We do have a lifeline for water customers for usage.

488
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,780
So we keep in our rates are tiered.

489
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:03,180
They're not tiered for sewer, but they're tiered for water.

490
00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:08,000
And if you look at it, it's roughly the first 3,000 gallons of water,

491
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,700
or only a dollar per thousand, or a dollar 10 per thousand gallons.

492
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:17,280
Then it jumps to like four and a half dollars for the next tier on up.

493
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:25,480
So it gives an incentive for people to use less water, which then uses less sewer because

494
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,280
sewer is just a flat per usage charge, but if you're using less water, then you're not

495
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,800
paying as much for sewer either.

496
00:43:34,220 --> 00:43:34,760
Thank you.

497
00:43:44,810 --> 00:43:45,530
Good morning, Council.

498
00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:51,950
My name is Bob Awarder, I'm a resident of any river shores and a water and sewer customer

499
00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:54,010
of the city in Biro Beach.

500
00:43:54,010 --> 00:43:59,450
So what you have in front of you that I'm handing out, and also for those in the audience

501
00:43:59,450 --> 00:44:06,930
for watching it later, is a page directly out of the City of Viro Beach proposed budget

502
00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:07,550
book.

503
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:11,150
It's called the fiscal 2627 administrative course allocation.

504
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:18,490
So what it does, it takes each department and allocate cost not only to the general fund

505
00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:23,170
that the Viro Beach taxpayers pay, but also to the various enterprise funds, including

506
00:44:23,170 --> 00:44:29,790
the water and sewer fund. Now, under Florida rules, under GASB rules, government accounting

507
00:44:29,790 --> 00:44:35,050
standard boards, when it comes to cost allocation policies, this is directly from one of

508
00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:41,170
their slides, Florida agencies must maintain documented, equitable cost allocation plans. Under

509
00:44:41,170 --> 00:44:47,450
GASB principles, these plans cannot arbitrarily transfer general overhead costs to restrict the funds

510
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:50,570
like utility or grant funds without clear documentation

511
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:52,190
of benefits received.

512
00:44:53,010 --> 00:44:56,430
So if you look at your own analysis here,

513
00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:58,930
I went down each department.

514
00:44:59,630 --> 00:44:59,970
So I'm just going to read.

515
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Twenty-five percent of the course are being paid by the Woodern Sewer Customs. City Clerk, 24 percent. City manager, 25 percent. This building, City Hall. I don't think there's any Woodern Sewer facility inside City Hall.

516
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:24,600
I don't know toilets. That 25 percent. We're getting to see it become a pattern here. City Attorney, 30 percent, and then enters the fans of the department so far.

517
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:31,100
You know, my concern is you have massive increases in these rates and then I feel like you're

518
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:36,880
piling on the water and sewer tax payer water and sewer rate payers, many of which live

519
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:43,660
outside the city and cannot vote you out of office as the city council which is the rate

520
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:44,480
making for.

521
00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:51,080
I think it's just unfair, I've asked for these cost allocations, plans, one at a time when utility

522
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,040
commission never got anything.

523
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,140
So I just want to point that out.

524
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,640
One last thing before I get done here.

525
00:45:59,180 --> 00:46:04,520
This particular chart up here shows that the existing rate

526
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,120
goes from 83, 54, to 94, 92.

527
00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:11,420
And vice mayor, Dingle had brought up, well,

528
00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:14,400
our other place is going to leapfrog and so forth.

529
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:16,120
Just the one thing I want to point out,

530
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,520
that's for next year, the 94, 92.

531
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:21,820
Then your rate's going to go up to $107.30,

532
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:29,860
sense the following year, 2029, 1668, and at least on the original table they gave out the

533
00:46:29,860 --> 00:46:38,220
water and sewer combined bill is going to go up 12245. So you take that 90492 rate,

534
00:46:39,260 --> 00:46:45,560
when you move it up to 12245, it's going to go up another 29%. So we may be leap frog and

535
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,780
but we might be leap frog in a wrong way. So I just want to bring that to your attention. Thank you.

536
00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:50,680
Thank you. Thank you.

537
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:51,740
Thank you.

538
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,740
Probably the oldest person in here. My name is Adeline Clemens.

539
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:10,060
I live on Tides Road, which is out on the Bay Area Island. I just had sewer installed

540
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:17,140
because I was told that that was what we needed to do. They destroyed my septic tank,

541
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:23,420
which was perfectly fine. There was nothing wrong with it. I live alone. How much mess

542
00:47:23,420 --> 00:47:32,580
can I make the end of the day, but now my sewer bill is almost 2.5 times the price of my

543
00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:39,940
water bill, which is getting outrageous and they're asking for an increase, as I got

544
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:46,440
the little coup-piece paper. It also states here that there is going to be a readiness

545
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:52,140
to serve charge. I don't know what that is. I wish somebody would explain it to us so that

546
00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:54,440
And you know what, and the heck, we're paying it for.

547
00:47:55,340 --> 00:48:02,740
This is, it's hard on widows, widowers, old people who've been living in, I've been

548
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:04,800
living in my house since 1979.

549
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,700
And all of a sudden everything is going out of the roof.

550
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:18,180
$100, well, almost $100 a month for 4,000 gallons of water.

551
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,660
I want to tell you, I take the quickest showers you've ever seen, trying not to use that much water.

552
00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:33,460
But it's not fair. It's not fair to the people who have been here forever and ever.

553
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:39,480
I used to work for the water and sewer department. I worked there for three years.

554
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:46,920
My husband also worked there. He had the charming job of checking out all the lift stations in this town.

555
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:56,320
And he worked there longer than I did, but the bottom line was, there was nothing like this.

556
00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:58,620
This readiness to serve charge.

557
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,020
What is that?

558
00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:05,760
Does that mean if somebody goes out at night because they still are back, so that we have

559
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,420
to pay monthly for this on the off-chain set, it goes back and we have a problem?

560
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,780
I don't know what it is.

561
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:19,640
You're already being served. You're already had the service. Rob will explain it, but you're already hooked up. You don't have to worry about that charge.

562
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,200
Well, it just says here, the implementation of a readiness to serve charge.

563
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,860
Rob, right behind you, he'll explain it.

564
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:33,780
Well, I hope not, because my bill is more than I want to spend anyway.

565
00:49:34,540 --> 00:49:37,280
And then, of course, in summertime, hey, there you are.

566
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,100
And who are you?

567
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:47,600
I thought that's maybe who you were, but I have told you and I never got a call back, but that's okay.

568
00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:49,220
He can explain the ready to serve.

569
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,020
So the readiness to serve charge.

570
00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:53,820
You've just hooked up, correct?

571
00:49:55,020 --> 00:49:57,740
You said, no, no, you said you just hooked up to sewer.

572
00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:58,180
You're playing.

573
00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:58,660
Yes.

574
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:00,940
You won't have to worry about the readiness to serve charge.

575
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,300
The readiness to serve charges for those that haven't hooked up.

576
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:07,460
That has the ability to hook up for the last 10 years.

577
00:50:07,460 --> 00:50:20,400
They didn't hook up, now we're building a new facility, and we're going to have debt service and other costs, and it's not fair to you as a sewer customer to pay for your neighbor that hasn't connected.

578
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:27,700
Well, I'm already paying because I have a nine year note that I have to pay every year for the sewer that you put in.

579
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:41,180
It wasn't free and my front yard now has no grass because I have two big green things and three plastic tanks because I watched them put it in.

580
00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:55,140
There are three plastic tanks underground with two big green covers on them and they destroyed my front yard. I'm getting wild grass growing in there because I can't buy more grass.

581
00:50:55,140 --> 00:51:04,600
But, and I know my neighbor had to spend $600 to put a little bit of grass where you dug up in there yard also.

582
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,500
So, where do you live? What's your house?

583
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:09,720
I'm tied to a corner of tides and trade winds.

584
00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:10,040
Okay.

585
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:11,620
And I've been there forever.

586
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:19,160
So anyway, well, if that's not going to be charged, that's better.

587
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:28,240
but $100 a month is what you're looking at. That's not very good because they're on top

588
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:34,170
and that you'll have electricity. And being by myself, that's a lot of money.

589
00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:43,670
Yeah. The electricity, you mean to run the pump? That's very good. But the $100 a month is

590
00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:47,390
What, what are wastewater charges are going to?

591
00:51:47,650 --> 00:51:57,210
I know. And when that's another thing, when they put in the tanks, I now have this big white box on the side of my house.

592
00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:03,950
And it has a little green light. And that runs off my electricity because they put it in my meat a box.

593
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:08,690
So, okay, these are all the things that I'm complaining about.

594
00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:16,750
If you want to write your phone number on that, you can, you and Rob can have a conversation

595
00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:17,490
after.

596
00:52:17,930 --> 00:52:20,650
You're going to really the details for you.

597
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:24,190
You'll be happy to go into the details for you as soon as possible.

598
00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:27,110
Well, now he's right here.

599
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,570
mayor, thank you for coming in, thank you for coming in today. Thank you for coming in today, coeurcheck, you being here. Okay,

600
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:38,490
Do you have anybody else,

601
00:52:41,410 --> 00:52:43,190
okay seeing no one approach in normal.

602
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:47,580
I'm sorry, I apologize, OK.

603
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:51,500
Myno, he almost missed it. Sorry,

604
00:52:52,860 --> 00:53:01,440
People Fragen ass детicio�, I still need to know. I need you to identify myself and whether you're a city or county resident.

605
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:29,860
Um, I'm a county resident, Judy Fox. I'm at 30 10 10th Parkway in the Buckinghamic area over there. Okay, so will you send out further paperwork explaining the breakdown of what we have to pay because we don't fall into the grant. We make a little too much. Okay, my only concern is if I didn't have I'm guessing.

606
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:38,980
$10,000 for this stuff, do you put it in the tax bill or the monthly fee for the water

607
00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:42,620
and sewer somehow and is it interest free or do we have to pay?

608
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,740
I don't know.

609
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:44,120
Okay.

610
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,180
It's a rub.

611
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,440
Here we go.

612
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,320
We go ahead.

613
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:54,220
Once we have the lines in Buckinghamic finished, we're planning on having a meeting here.

614
00:53:54,340 --> 00:53:57,400
For all the residents, explain all the costs.

615
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:13,100
OK. Have, you know, other people here as far as you've you've checked on on some of the grants and others up, but yeah, but we'll we'll have a meeting here and have everybody that wants to have questions at a separate meeting just for that or no doubt for whatever we will send you a note out.

616
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:23,860
OK, that was probably a letter in the mail directly to you in Rob that's a October right, so sometime in late October early November is OK.

617
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:26,960
OK, I'll afford to it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

618
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,340
I mean, thank you so much. Okay. Thank you.

619
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:39,110
Okay. Any other public comment from the

620
00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:46,990
diocesal? Okay. Need a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the revised rates

621
00:54:46,990 --> 00:54:54,510
and accordance with the documents provided to City Council. Second. Okay. Roll call please.

622
00:54:56,310 --> 00:55:01,330
Mr. Voss. Yes. Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes. Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.

623
00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:04,150
Mayor Katunou. Yes. Passes five to zero.

624
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,300
I'd like to thank everybody for

625
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:14,760
who came out and made comment. Appreciate your input.

626
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:20,750
Okay. Please.

627
00:55:21,810 --> 00:55:23,510
And ordinance of the City of Verbiage Florida,

628
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:28,450
amending the comprehensive plan future land use map by changing the future land use

629
00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:35,370
designation from RM residential medium to see commercial located at 2300 fifth avenue

630
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:39,410
containing seven acres more or less providing for an effective date.

631
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:49,160
Good morning. Jason Jopri is a planning director. This is an application. It's a request by

632
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:59,150
2300 fifth Avenue LLC. It's a future land use map amendment. It's initiated by application

633
00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:05,330
by a property owner. The existing future land use map designation for this property is residential

634
00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:12,190
RM, residential medium, and the proposed future land use will be C commercial.

635
00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:16,670
The location is at 2350 Avenue, it's about seven acres.

636
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:20,350
There is a concurrent application, which is the next hearing, which is a comprehensive

637
00:56:20,350 --> 00:56:27,190
plan text amendment, which is in relation to what is being proposed for this site.

638
00:56:27,710 --> 00:56:32,450
This is a legislative public hearing for a comprehensive plan.

639
00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:44,870
The process for the review process, there was a neighborhood workshop that was held on September 30, 2024 as required by our land development regulations.

640
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:53,450
The application then went through a significant staff review because of it being a future land use map amendment.

641
00:56:53,450 --> 00:57:03,290
and then in, so I can write that down but in, let's see, the planning is only board conducted

642
00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:09,270
a public training on July 16th, in which they recommended this board,

643
00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:18,450
excuse me, hey Rob,

644
00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:21,870
could you go into the lobby please, thank you.

645
00:57:24,770 --> 00:57:29,130
And then the process requires this, this is a small scale, what's called a small scale

646
00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:31,490
future land use map amendment on their state statutes.

647
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:36,930
So it just requires this one public hearing before city council for your adoption.

648
00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:45,470
And the state reviews is 30 days for them to filing objections to it.

649
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:54,850
So from there, so in your packet is the location, this site is just north of the

650
00:57:54,850 --> 00:58:00,390
Miracle Mile Commercial District, is what is referred to as the doctor's clinic, many of

651
00:58:00,390 --> 00:58:09,230
the long time locals know it as before all the medical development kind of moved up to 37th

652
00:58:09,230 --> 00:58:20,050
street. Surrounding this site is on the north and you have in your packet that is the future

653
00:58:20,050 --> 00:58:26,450
land use map and the site currently is residential medium, the property to the north, which is

654
00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:33,450
currently in office building as the Kimley Horn offices. I think the Park 20 project that is

655
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:43,540
residential, does a residential medium, and it has an office use to the east of the site is a multi-family residential.

656
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:56,610
And that is also designated residential medium to the west and across fifth Avenue is a daycare, and that's designated residential.

657
00:58:56,610 --> 00:59:01,790
So, essentially, you have residential, medium land use that create that transition to the

658
00:59:01,790 --> 00:59:04,530
more single family, the rural park neighborhood to the north.

659
00:59:05,050 --> 00:59:11,970
And then you have any revolve, our provides is kind of the boundary separating this site

660
00:59:11,970 --> 00:59:14,950
from the Bureau Isles, which is also residential low.

661
00:59:15,590 --> 00:59:16,770
Wouldn't it, I have a question.

662
00:59:17,490 --> 00:59:21,930
Wouldn't it have made more sense to just do the whole big rectangle up to 24th Street

663
00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:23,690
and then all the way over to?

664
00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:34,510
Yes, and that was some initial inquiries. I would agree you're kind of palidating. I've had inquiries from the office complex to the north

665
00:59:35,310 --> 00:59:40,450
And I did suggest this inquiries between both properties have been going on. I think

666
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:44,510
Best my memory since 2020 probably started with the effort

667
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:48,190
COVID or after the pandemic when the office market

668
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:53,090
start, you know, we've seen some shifts, and we've talked about it in the analysis, you know,

669
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:59,970
some shifts in the office market, and this area could be better developed consistent with...

670
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,820
Out in the 2005 vision plan for miracle mile. But and through those conversations, I did as staff recommend the two property owners do a joint application, but only this property moved forward on this application.

671
01:00:13,820 --> 01:00:20,160
But we could discuss that further in your deliberations, but if that's council's interest, they would.

672
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:26,950
The other property, I think it makes sense as a planning director, but they would need to make application and have

673
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,140
their analysis

674
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,580
Done. The big key missing here is this analysis all based, especially the traffic analysis is just based on this property

675
01:00:34,580 --> 01:00:36,520
So we can't just add it in

676
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,420
We wouldn't have sufficient data now

677
01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:41,220
Very traffic now. Well, yes

678
01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:44,560
Right, so you would have to go back in front of P&Z

679
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,480
We would have to start the whole process over again, and you see this application took a long time to get here

680
01:00:49,480 --> 01:01:04,180
Yeah. But I appreciate you're having the same intuition that I think I had in talking to the property owners back and this is a development 2020, but we would have to have the sufficient data analysis to back that up.

681
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:10,360
All right. But I appreciate. It sounds like there's willingness and I will convey that to the property owner to the north.

682
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,740
Yeah. I mean, we could always go back and do it. It could always be a separate application. Yeah.

683
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:28,460
So anyway, I'm going to just finish up in terms of the needs, addresses a need and some of the review analysis requirements under our land development regulations.

684
01:01:29,380 --> 01:01:33,600
The first is to do it does this application address a need and consistent with the public interest.

685
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,820
This is amendment is to expand the miracle mile commercial district to the north.

686
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:45,400
It's an allow makes use of residential commercial uses as identified, starting with the 2005 vision plan.

687
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,840
and they've, the applicant has provided backup and support to this effect, the ideas to get some

688
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:57,900
pedestrian oriented development as described in the vision plan in this area and this application

689
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:03,880
is seen as dressing a need and is in the public interest because that aligns with the recent

690
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,940
development trends, what we're seeing the shifts from the office market and the idea of having

691
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:16,640
or mixed use residential development in kind of our commercial core, thereby reducing sprawl.

692
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,460
So, as we get more development in the real beach area, terms of consistency with the

693
01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:30,120
carpenter plan, the change to sea commercial spounds to be overall consistent with the

694
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:37,680
land development policies and policy 1.10. It's more suitable for small-to-medium scale

695
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:44,100
urban development and intensities, located near existing urban uses and does provide for

696
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:50,000
the transition from the commercial uses from the more intense commercial areas to or the

697
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,560
transition is provided from this more intense commercial area to the more less intense single

698
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:02,600
family residential areas. There are issues with transportation element policy 1.1, I'll go

699
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,520
more specific in that terms of the impact. It has to deal with the level of service on

700
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,060
River Boulevard, this is why staff recommended some policy changes there in the next application.

701
01:03:13,020 --> 01:03:18,540
So staff, in terms of this application being consistent with the company's plans, staff recommended additional

702
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:20,760
land use policies to provide the consistency.

703
01:03:22,060 --> 01:03:25,740
So essentially, this application is subject to those being implemented.

704
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:34,300
In terms more specifically on the impact of public facilities, and you're a boulevard under our

705
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:39,620
Compients of plan is policy is to maintain a level of service of E plus 20 percent.

706
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:46,280
There is traffic port attaches to this application,

707
01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:50,260
identified that they can maintain that level of service.

708
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,000
So long as there's pedestrian or any development.

709
01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:58,020
So thereby, you got to make sure this is why those policies are being recommended to

710
01:03:58,020 --> 01:04:01,820
ensure that any of the development occurs in the area is pedestrian or any

711
01:04:01,820 --> 01:04:05,380
development or you're going to have a higher traffic generation. So they're kind of,

712
01:04:05,380 --> 01:04:09,020
their traffic report is dependent on the development being pedestrian oriented.

713
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:11,520
Do we know what the applicant's plan for the property?

714
01:04:11,780 --> 01:04:16,440
Not specifically, that is why we don't have a rezoning application. You see today, the really

715
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:23,260
original three applications, a future land use map amendment, a text, the text amendment,

716
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:29,020
which is the next one and there was a zoning staff recommended not to approve the rezoning

717
01:04:29,020 --> 01:04:33,340
amendment to we get more specifics, and that it's consistent with the policies of recommending

718
01:04:33,340 --> 01:04:35,780
in the second application.

719
01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:42,660
So, and there are some traffic impacts identified to the intersection of innumerable bar to

720
01:04:42,660 --> 01:04:43,460
17th Street.

721
01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:46,840
Those same traffic impacts are the same thing we're dealing with with three corners.

722
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,500
So, there's other projects related in terms of what we're doing with the in-mafic, one

723
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:57,100
of the other components of plan, the next, the one that's administratively being proposed

724
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,420
the fourth here, and we're going to do for competence of plan.

725
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,500
The terms of compatibility with surrounding areas,

726
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,120
staff finds it was a adjacent commercial land use

727
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,940
as nations, and then the transitional uses

728
01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:16,420
or areas are provided, so that you don't have the impact

729
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:17,980
to the single family residential neighborhood,

730
01:05:18,180 --> 01:05:20,060
so it is compatible with the surrounding areas.

731
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,400
So staff's finding is the future land use map

732
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,700
and it's found to be consistent with the Stanford Review,

733
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:28,040
would allow mixed use residential commercial uses,

734
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,240
so long as there's this corresponding tax amendment

735
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,180
to provide additional policies.

736
01:05:34,460 --> 01:05:37,160
There were concerns about the roadway level of service

737
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:40,500
at Inreverble of Art and Intersections

738
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,340
to be addressed with the adoption of those additional policies.

739
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,200
But this proposal is compatible with surrounding area

740
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,600
and existing uses, existing land use and future land use

741
01:05:53,600 --> 01:06:06,820
So, SAS recommendation was the approval of this comprehensive plan amendment with those conditions of additional amendments to the policies that's part of the next application.

742
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,340
And the planning is only board essentially four to zero.

743
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,100
Concert with the staff's recommendation.

744
01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:18,370
Okay.

745
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:19,950
Questions from the dice?

746
01:06:20,310 --> 01:06:26,290
Just on the D.J. and properties, it's the right leverage off of what's already been put forward

747
01:06:26,290 --> 01:06:27,510
with this property, right?

748
01:06:27,690 --> 01:06:30,250
It's going to be in their best interest if they in fact were interested.

749
01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:34,450
It should be a little bit easier at this point if they wait.

750
01:06:34,770 --> 01:06:35,610
Over the next one.

751
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:36,350
For the next one.

752
01:06:36,570 --> 01:06:36,610
Yeah.

753
01:06:36,610 --> 01:06:37,290
You're talking about them.

754
01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:38,750
I'm talking about them.

755
01:06:38,790 --> 01:06:39,210
Well, right.

756
01:06:39,350 --> 01:06:43,030
Because they're going to run into the same traffic issues that this application did,

757
01:06:43,210 --> 01:06:46,210
but this application already dealt with the case.

758
01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:55,210
work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's to be in there. They did all the heavy lifting. Right. So now's a time to strike someone has to. Right. So with that, the

759
01:06:55,210 --> 01:06:59,610
public in. Thank you for all the. Thank those efforts.

760
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,060
I have the remote. Okay.

761
01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:10,370
Thank you.

762
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,460
Good morning, while the

763
01:07:15,460 --> 01:07:24,860
presentation is brought up in Rebecca girl hall with MBV engineering and I had Keith Kite here of

764
01:07:24,860 --> 01:07:26,340
properties and dip.

765
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,940
Annual Kennedy, as well as Jacob Nunes, with Kimli Horn, who did all the traffic analysis for us.

766
01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:43,000
So Jason did a great job outlining this. We're looking to transition from a residential

767
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:49,940
medium density to the commercial future land use, which would allow for a mixture of residential

768
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,980
institutional and non-residential uses. And it's really designated for arterial

769
01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:59,320
select your streets near existing urban centers.

770
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,680
So, went too fast.

771
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Why the change is needed as you just hear Mr. Jeffries

772
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,480
outlined the history of the property has changed

773
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,700
and the circumstances have changed a lot.

774
01:08:13,020 --> 01:08:16,060
This used to serve as really like a health care hub

775
01:08:16,060 --> 01:08:20,600
offering doctors clinics services to the surrounding neighborhoods.

776
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,880
And that goes back to like the 1960s.

777
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,820
And then over time, medical practices

778
01:08:27,820 --> 01:08:30,920
have migrated closer to the hospital corridor

779
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,680
and opened up their own facilities.

780
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,020
So today, it's used as general office in a preschool,

781
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,420
and there is a rising vacancy and underutilization

782
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:41,500
of that property.

783
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,380
And that trend just really mimics national trends,

784
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,420
where office accuracy remains below pre-pandemic levels,

785
01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:52,900
it might never come back.

786
01:08:52,900 --> 01:09:01,240
sometimes this is bad is 50%. And again, we think this trend is likely to reverse as we see rising

787
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:07,520
office vacancies really across the city. So that kind of brings us to the mixed use vision for

788
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,600
the site and keep in mind this is a vision. This is really the first step in the process.

789
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:19,520
Once we get past this, we'll start putting pen to paper and really start working on the site plan

790
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,380
and the different aspects of that.

791
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,780
So again, looking at commercial restaurant,

792
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,140
residential and professional office space,

793
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,420
there could be a possible hotel.

794
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,600
And I know there's been some comments about that.

795
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,660
So I'm happy to address any questions you might have.

796
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,460
We're looking at the ability to have multi-family units

797
01:09:36,460 --> 01:09:40,360
here, as second and third story, upper floor, residential units.

798
01:09:40,860 --> 01:09:43,500
And really again, a pedestrian oriented design

799
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:47,520
to tap into the proximity to Miracle Mile.

800
01:09:47,520 --> 01:10:17,040
And Jason, do a good job showing you where we are located on that and this is just a vision of what it could look like and when we talk about pedestrian amenity that would be sized so that pedestrians bicyclists anything non vehicular could cross over to the miracle mile property and again that's just a visual what it could be and all this is outlined in the city's vision for miracle mile

801
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:24,540
that plan was in 2005, but it was an enhanced plan to really address the changing commercial

802
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:29,180
development trends. Keith, did you have anything you wanted to add?

803
01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:33,220
We've been working on it for 20 years, I guess.

804
01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:37,040
So that's what I started.

805
01:10:37,180 --> 01:10:40,220
So we're still trying to get there one more time.

806
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:45,280
And this is a graphic right out of the adhesion plan for Miracle Mile.

807
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,180
And it's really what we consider to be a shared vision.

808
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,900
And again, if the properties adjacent to us would like to file their own applications in the future,

809
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,680
we're happy to help with them with any applications.

810
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,140
I think we've done a lot to pave the way.

811
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,340
Just in overview this, I'm just going to fly through this real quick.

812
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:07,760
But this is the point where we think there's alignment with the comprehensive plan,

813
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,440
and shows it's compatible.

814
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,540
There's just some concurrency analysis.

815
01:11:12,540 --> 01:11:20,760
there's really sufficient capacity with water, sewer, drainage, and there's no impact to

816
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,740
solid waste. Traffic is a little more specialized, so I'm happy to defer over to Kimley

817
01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:32,860
Horn for that, but there is an overall reduction in trips. And then the school capacity

818
01:11:32,860 --> 01:11:39,080
right now, all schools have capacity available, as well as the numerous private school choices

819
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,320
and options available to students.

820
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,180
And once the plan goes into effect, of course,

821
01:11:44,260 --> 01:11:46,660
we'll work with the schools to make sure

822
01:11:46,660 --> 01:11:49,000
that they're being accommodated.

823
01:11:49,580 --> 01:11:51,720
Well, since, come on, stop for a second.

824
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,980
Since you haven't decided what you're

825
01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:56,900
going to build there, what is the calculations based

826
01:11:56,900 --> 01:12:01,320
on of the proposed needs on that prior slide?

827
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,020
Correct.

828
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:05,540
I mean, we got 81, 50 gallons per day.

829
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:09,340
post-demand 34,000 Galls for that's huge difference.

830
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:12,100
That's kind of a maximum build out.

831
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:17,520
Just utilizing some figures out of the comprehensive plan.

832
01:12:18,380 --> 01:12:22,320
And it might be well below that, because it is well below that now.

833
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,100
I'm sorry, come on down Jason.

834
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:28,000
Most of the time when we do this analysis for

835
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,580
Comprehensive plans, they're doing it based on the maximum square footage.

836
01:12:32,580 --> 01:12:41,060
Like the FAR that's the maximum is allowed under the sea commercial land use and then they're just building into what that demand would be.

837
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:41,420
Okay.

838
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:43,080
Okay.

839
01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:44,180
Thank you.

840
01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:45,620
Yeah, that's great.

841
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:52,620
It is using like the most intense opportunities just to make sure that they're sufficient capacity.

842
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:58,120
So, you know, we believe this supports the miracle mile vision.

843
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:03,500
We think this is very much market responsive and physically sound land use.

844
01:13:03,820 --> 01:13:05,180
The infrastructure is ready.

845
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:09,980
We believe this is compatible and would be a low impact to the surrounding area,

846
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,740
and that there's a community benefit by continuing to build out walkable communities.

847
01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:20,880
So with that said, I'm here to answer any questions you might have.

848
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,400
We did conduct just for the record and neighborhood meeting, but also if there's questions or

849
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:32,380
I'm gonna say I'm here to help you know, that's some one of the questions I have it's the

850
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:37,120
Exconnecting a miracle mile, but how does it connect to the neighbor because in that one

851
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:44,200
Screen shot you had or the vision you show that the row goes away and through the property, right?

852
01:13:44,540 --> 01:13:50,120
It's an existing that's an existing row, but that's gonna make the right there that goes into

853
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,020
Royal palm right

854
01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:57,720
We also have direct access to Indian River Boulevard.

855
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:58,880
Okay.

856
01:13:59,140 --> 01:14:01,120
South end of the part twenty four.

857
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,340
Sorry, can you speak into the microphone, please?

858
01:14:04,060 --> 01:14:06,600
Yeah. So what is doing is it's not just connecting

859
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Merikawaii also giving opportunity to connect to the surrounding properties.

860
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:13,380
Just know.

861
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:17,020
We currently connect to the surrounding properties on Fifth Avenue.

862
01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:18,580
That's how you enter the property.

863
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:22,960
Yeah.

864
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:32,160
perhaps at other slide, you know, the cycling or area there you go, so that's

865
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,800
fifth avenue there on the left down to the property and then it stops.

866
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,020
And it stops, right? That's, it makes it a little more complete now.

867
01:14:40,300 --> 01:14:44,040
And that's Jason's follow-up on the pedestrian connections.

868
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,660
Yeah, administrative application.

869
01:14:50,170 --> 01:14:59,710
So if you're painting what you eventually put in there it makes it more accessible to the surrounding properties of people on a walk, you know, have to drive correct. Yeah, cool.

870
01:15:02,380 --> 01:15:05,420
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

871
01:15:05,420 --> 01:15:05,680
Yeah.

872
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,320
Looks great.

873
01:15:08,180 --> 01:15:08,360
Thanks.

874
01:15:08,660 --> 01:15:09,300
Looks good to be.

875
01:15:09,780 --> 01:15:09,940
Yeah.

876
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:11,500
Okay. Any further comment?

877
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,360
Questions from the dyes?

878
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:15,680
I'll make a motion to approve.

879
01:15:16,440 --> 01:15:16,520
Okay.

880
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:17,000
All right.

881
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,820
Are we there?

882
01:15:19,180 --> 01:15:19,400
Yes.

883
01:15:19,900 --> 01:15:20,200
That's it.

884
01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:21,960
Oh, well, he's.

885
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:22,980
She's going to make the motion.

886
01:15:24,540 --> 01:15:25,360
I was seconded.

887
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:26,560
Okay. Public comment.

888
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,040
Motion.

889
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,340
Wow.

890
01:15:30,740 --> 01:15:31,020
Okay.

891
01:15:31,220 --> 01:15:32,360
No one's approaching the dyes.

892
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:32,960
So close.

893
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,120
public comment at 1047 and ask for a roll call.

894
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Mr. Voss. Yes.

895
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,780
Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes.

896
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:44,080
Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.

897
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,120
Mayor Gatino. Yes.

898
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,260
Passes five to zero.

899
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,080
Inordinates of the City of Europe, each Florida,

900
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,300
I'm ending the text of the comprehensive plan,

901
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:55,060
land use amendment, objectives and policies,

902
01:15:55,740 --> 01:15:56,600
objective 10,

903
01:15:56,780 --> 01:15:57,660
miracle mile-quarter,

904
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:00,020
providing for conflict and stability,

905
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,660
providing for scriptors, errors,

906
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,320
and providing for an effective date.

907
01:16:07,730 --> 01:16:11,070
Okay, okay, I keep this brief as possible.

908
01:16:11,290 --> 01:16:15,310
This is basically this application just follows up to the recommendation staff head.

909
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:21,670
In the previous application, in the Future Lane use map amendment, the applicant was required

910
01:16:21,670 --> 01:16:26,870
to, because they're wanting to expand essentially what is the miracle mile commercial district,

911
01:16:27,010 --> 01:16:30,130
which is designated within the comprehensive plan.

912
01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:34,750
They need to update a figure which then creates the requirement, this is a text amendment.

913
01:16:34,750 --> 01:16:42,770
In addition, staff had recommendations of additional policies, which weren't incorporated into this application.

914
01:16:43,870 --> 01:16:57,430
So the policies deal with expanding the American-mile commercial district as the standards were to encourage the mixed use pedestrian-oriented development that they're proposing as the justification for the previous amendment.

915
01:16:58,450 --> 01:17:03,890
And then, ensure the site plan standards, any type of site plan application that comes through,

916
01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:09,790
would deal with any potential traffic impacts, especially to the 17th Street and Irverable

917
01:17:09,790 --> 01:17:13,850
of our intersections really, where the concern has been identified in their traffic study,

918
01:17:14,590 --> 01:17:18,010
and then any planned development tools to encourage walkable development patterns.

919
01:17:18,110 --> 01:17:19,630
So this is a legislative hearing.

920
01:17:19,870 --> 01:17:25,430
This has gone through the same as central process, the neighborhood workshop is not required

921
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:30,710
for this particular application, but I'm sure at their workshop, they discussed this application

922
01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:36,830
also, but it went under application review, staff had the recommended policy changes,

923
01:17:37,610 --> 01:17:43,210
planning board, held a hearing in July 16th, and this is for U.S. City Council for your

924
01:17:43,210 --> 01:17:48,910
public hearing for adoption. Under the state statute, usually a text amendment is goes for

925
01:17:48,910 --> 01:17:53,990
what's called the state expedite review process, but there is a little caveat in the course

926
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:57,170
is always some little tweak in the state statutes

927
01:17:57,170 --> 01:17:59,590
that if it is a text amendment directly related

928
01:17:59,590 --> 01:18:01,690
to a future-land use map amendment,

929
01:18:02,150 --> 01:18:07,330
it could be processed as a small scale amendment,

930
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:09,090
and that's how we're processing this one.

931
01:18:11,530 --> 01:18:15,010
The commercial, and you have in your map,

932
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:20,170
or in your packet, the map updating the figure 10,

933
01:18:20,170 --> 01:18:47,450
Would you see the yellow is the current boundary of the miracle mile commercial district and then the orange is essentially adding this property to that commercial district and this is essentially allows them to have development consistent with the miracle mile if not they would they would they would be allowed to have as intense development terms would allow creating the pedestrian oriented environment.

934
01:18:48,670 --> 01:18:50,830
Staff reviewed it.

935
01:18:51,150 --> 01:18:56,930
This is part of the future land use map designation of C commercial and the expansion

936
01:18:56,930 --> 01:18:57,770
of the American miles.

937
01:18:57,870 --> 01:19:03,190
So this is needed for the consistency with the policies and to address the roadway

938
01:19:03,190 --> 01:19:04,510
a level of service.

939
01:19:05,050 --> 01:19:10,150
Change conditions, the future land use map designation change to see commercial

940
01:19:10,150 --> 01:19:17,190
necessitated this as a change condition, the proposed policies are internally consistent with the

941
01:19:17,190 --> 01:19:24,290
comprehensive plan. And this is all based on the traffic report and the sufficient analysis that this

942
01:19:24,290 --> 01:19:29,990
that they provided with their future land use map application. And these additional policies will

943
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:35,530
result in a more logically and orderly development pattern for the city. So with that staff,

944
01:19:35,530 --> 01:19:39,370
findings are this demonstrates the public interest and need.

945
01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:42,210
It's related to some changed conditions.

946
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:48,970
The application is consistent with the complaint, sufficient data analysis is provided, and this should result in logic,

947
01:19:49,850 --> 01:19:51,750
logical and orderly development pattern for the city.

948
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:59,970
Staff's recommendation was the approval of the land use element changes for the Miracle Mile corridor,

949
01:20:00,830 --> 01:20:06,870
and the planning and zoning board also recommended these four to zero to City Council.

950
01:20:07,490 --> 01:20:08,950
So if that's there's any questions?

951
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:11,920
I'm good.

952
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:12,200
Motion.

953
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:12,860
I don't care.

954
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,180
Motion to approve.

955
01:20:15,740 --> 01:20:15,980
Second.

956
01:20:16,660 --> 01:20:16,920
Okay.

957
01:20:17,140 --> 01:20:17,940
Any public comment?

958
01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:25,420
I just want to say that Jason is right.

959
01:20:25,740 --> 01:20:30,420
That this is right in line with the city's vision plan all the way back to 2005.

960
01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:32,300
It's what Linda alluded to.

961
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:43,540
So I think that you're moving right in line with the upgrading or renovating or modernization

962
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:48,780
of our city, whatever we want to call it to have sustainable, livable, walkable, workable

963
01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:49,140
places.

964
01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:53,220
So I think he's doing a really good job, taking us almost two years to get here.

965
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:56,960
So I would support it and ask you to vote for it.

966
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:57,580
Thank you.

967
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:58,520
Thank you.

968
01:20:58,760 --> 01:20:59,060
Okay.

969
01:20:59,060 --> 01:21:07,200
It's a 1052, I see no one else approaching podium, so we'll close public comment and ask for a roll call.

970
01:21:07,660 --> 01:21:08,260
Mr. Boss?

971
01:21:08,340 --> 01:21:08,820
Yes.

972
01:21:08,820 --> 01:21:09,560
Mrs. Moore?

973
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:09,960
Yes.

974
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,600
Mr. Carroll?

975
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,000
Yes.

976
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:11,640
Vice Mayor James?

977
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:13,060
Mayor Katuna?

978
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:13,520
Yes.

979
01:21:13,820 --> 01:21:15,040
Passes five to zero.

980
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:45,600
In ordinance of the City of Vera Beach floor, I'm ending chapter 62, Article 7, Airport, Master Plan, land use zones, Section 62.104, storage hours, chapter 67, use specific standards, Section 67.13, see 19 outdoor storage areas, to amend the requirements for outdoor storage areas or yards and industrial zoning districts, providing for codification, providing for correction of scrubbers,

981
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,620
of airs providing for complex and

982
01:21:47,620 --> 01:21:50,600
separability and providing for an effective date.

983
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,440
Jason Jeffery is a planning director.

984
01:21:56,340 --> 01:22:00,540
This public carrying is related to a

985
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:02,840
applicant initiated amendment to our

986
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:03,800
land development regulations.

987
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:07,480
The applicant is Timothy Jarred who leases the

988
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:10,220
former team deep property city airport.

989
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:11,800
I think he's looking to do some more outdoor

990
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,020
storage in terms of development with a project.

991
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:29,580
With there, he identified or raised the concern to staff through the application about some of the stringent nature of the outdoor storage, especially the requirement, especially the buffering requirements.

992
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:37,920
And at the prepared this application and staff has reviewed it, to kind of give you a brief overview of the proposed amendment.

993
01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:45,960
It updates Section 62.104 with storage yards and L in the airport light industrial districts.

994
01:22:46,140 --> 01:22:49,500
These are, this is the zoning district specific to the airport area.

995
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:59,820
It revises the section to remove unique standards for outdoor storage yards, adds a reference to the standard outdoor storage yards.

996
01:22:59,820 --> 01:23:01,180
that we have in chapter 67.

997
01:23:02,380 --> 01:23:13,280
And then in section 67.13C I've updated those to be more consistent for outdoor storage

998
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,360
in all of industrial districts.

999
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,420
List of creates a list of development standards applicable to all outdoor storage areas in any

1000
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:28,680
industrial zoning district and then provides a list of specific standards for just the M industrial.

1001
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,820
And so in the M industrial, there are additional screening requirements.

1002
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,980
So what's interesting is kind of flipping what we have the current situation.

1003
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,920
Our current code actually makes the buffering stands for outdoor storage area.

1004
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:51,100
It's more stringent in the airport late industrial district where there are no adjacent residential uses.

1005
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:52,580
You know, they're all internal.

1006
01:23:52,580 --> 01:24:00,740
I don't know, we're trying to buffer outdoor storage from adjacent industrial uses or airport

1007
01:24:00,740 --> 01:24:07,460
industrial uses where really, and this is, I'll get into a little further with the consistency

1008
01:24:07,460 --> 01:24:14,180
with the complaint, you'll see that in policy 3.3C it talks about ensuring compatibility

1009
01:24:14,180 --> 01:24:20,080
uses and buffering, buffering, where appropriate to protect residential uses or buffering standards

1010
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,940
are really supposed to protect the less intense uses

1011
01:24:24,940 --> 01:24:27,060
or the residential uses.

1012
01:24:27,660 --> 01:24:30,320
So it's more logical because the M industrial district,

1013
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,320
the M industrial district is essentially our zoning district.

1014
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,840
Then it's a long old Dixie and commerce

1015
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,300
where they can be a J,

1016
01:24:37,420 --> 01:24:40,620
where you haven't industrial uses adjacent to residential uses.

1017
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:45,560
That's where you want to ensure that there are more buffering

1018
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,120
in terms of those uses, not uses at the airport.

1019
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:57,640
So, this proposed amendment basically reverses what they were asking for just be consistent with

1020
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:03,520
the M, but in doing through the analysis identified that no really the way we are approaching

1021
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:09,940
buffering standards for our industrial districts was the total reverse of what the policy

1022
01:25:09,940 --> 01:25:13,840
was not consistent. Our current rules were not consistent with the complaint. This will bring

1023
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:20,180
the rules for outdoor storage in line to be consistent with the, uh, with our, the

1024
01:25:20,180 --> 01:25:25,080
comprehensive plan. Um, and this should also be consistent with the, a tent purpose of

1025
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:29,820
the zoning districts. Again, the airport light industrial is about more intense airport

1026
01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:36,740
uses, uh, type industrial uses at the airport versus our M industrial district where it's, uh,

1027
01:25:36,860 --> 01:25:41,680
uh, down in the core of the city where it might be adjacent to less intense commercial mix use or

1028
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,840
even residential districts. We have places where industrial does bump up to residential

1029
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:51,680
uses, especially along North, kind of US-1 going North, that's all industrial. So this

1030
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:57,160
is staff's determination. This will really create a more orderly and logical development

1031
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:04,360
pattern for the city. And plus it's consistent with a really identified policy 3.2, we are

1032
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,260
supposed to regulate use and development of land in a reasonable and transparent manner,

1033
01:26:08,260 --> 01:26:14,440
you could argue the rules as they are now was not very reasonable to be more stringent on

1034
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:20,740
industrial uses adjacent to other industrial uses. So with that staff, we worked with the

1035
01:26:20,740 --> 01:26:25,140
applicant to prepare this text amount, so staff recommended approval, planning and zoning board,

1036
01:26:25,180 --> 01:26:34,640
also recommended approval for to zero. Makes sense. Yeah, I hope it makes sense. That makes perfectly

1037
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:42,020
good sense. It does. So motion for the room? Motion to approve. I'll second that motion.

1038
01:26:42,660 --> 01:26:44,480
Do we have any public comment?

1039
01:26:45,060 --> 01:26:51,180
The applicant is here. Oh, the applicant. Oh, sorry. No, it's okay. I don't want to jump ahead of

1040
01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:57,100
anybody. Rebecca Grohal and BV Engineering here on behalf of the applicant. And I just really

1041
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:03,420
want to thank staff for understanding how consistency and a little bit of common sense

1042
01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:06,600
makes for really great land development regulations.

1043
01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:08,680
We work in a couple of counties,

1044
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,560
and it becomes significantly easier to comply

1045
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,840
with land development codes and bring in projects

1046
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,040
that we want to feel good about that comply

1047
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:21,200
with your own codes when it's consistently written and applied.

1048
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,580
So, happy answering your questions.

1049
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,860
You might have about this text amendment,

1050
01:27:26,740 --> 01:27:29,320
otherwise, you know, I just asked for your support

1051
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:29,920
in your approval.

1052
01:27:30,380 --> 01:27:31,180
Thank you so much.

1053
01:27:31,180 --> 01:27:32,460
Thanks for being here.

1054
01:27:34,570 --> 01:27:37,510
At 10.59, I'll open it up to public comment.

1055
01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:45,550
Seeing no one approached the proteomoclos public comment 10.59 and ask for roll call.

1056
01:27:46,710 --> 01:27:51,730
Mr. Vaz. Yes. Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes. Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.

1057
01:27:51,890 --> 01:27:54,470
Mayor Kachunau. Yes. Passes five to zero.

1058
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,920
An ordinance of the city of Arab beach floor,

1059
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,540
amending the text of the comprehensive plan, transportation,

1060
01:28:01,540 --> 01:28:06,080
information element and capital improvements element, capital improvements schedule, providing

1061
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:10,060
for conflict and severability, providing first-cribters, airs, providing for an effective

1062
01:28:10,060 --> 01:28:11,100
date.

1063
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,480
Again, Jason Jeffries for the planning director.

1064
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,260
This is an administrative item.

1065
01:28:23,500 --> 01:28:27,640
This immense, the text of the company is a plan, transportation and capital improvements

1066
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:28,240
elements.

1067
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:46,280
Basically, what is kind of initiated this project is that we are just incorporating some of the projects that are identified in the county recently adopted or through the MPO, the 2050,

1068
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,320
into our county MPO, a long range transportation plan.

1069
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,080
So we want to make sure that the aviation extension,

1070
01:28:53,620 --> 01:28:57,260
both aviation projects are listed on in our complex.

1071
01:28:57,380 --> 01:29:00,240
So that's the expansion of aviation Boulevard itself.

1072
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,080
Plus aviation extension, which goes through some vacant land,

1073
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,760
connects up to 30, 37 Bolver.

1074
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,920
These are projects that the county is working on.

1075
01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:11,640
And F.

1076
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,280
Our both working on.

1077
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,520
We also wanted to add a 17th Street, and even the intersection

1078
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,220
improvements, as we discussed in the previous hearings,

1079
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:23,540
this kind of relates to three corners.

1080
01:29:24,060 --> 01:29:25,860
Also some of the projects that want to be done around

1081
01:29:25,860 --> 01:29:29,760
American Mile making sure it's identified that there's

1082
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,960
operational improvements that need to be made to that

1083
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,540
intersection.

1084
01:29:35,340 --> 01:29:40,720
This does also updates the complaint to the current city's

1085
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,300
capital budget as required by the state statutes for

1086
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:51,740
to stay consistent. So with that, this has gone through extensive. This is a state expire review process,

1087
01:29:51,820 --> 01:29:55,000
so this will be, we'll go off to...

1088
01:30:01,020 --> 01:30:07,000
Today's hearing is this, you're transmitting it to the state. They have the 30 days review. It will come back for your adoption.

1089
01:30:09,220 --> 01:30:12,200
Let's see if this is.

1090
01:30:12,660 --> 01:30:20,260
This is probably not tober sometime, about 30 days later. It's 30 to 45 days later.

1091
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,760
This does address the need in public interest.

1092
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,440
provides consistency with the comprehensive plan updates the roadway

1093
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:31,280
uh, improvement plans and capital budgeting to uh, so that our

1094
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,360
compliance consistent with the city's uh,

1095
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:38,740
a complaint budget. Uh, the change conditions, um, uh, uh,

1096
01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:42,340
the change conditions, the update, the adoption of the updated roadway

1097
01:30:42,340 --> 01:30:45,880
improvement plan by the county, uh, it's internally consistent with

1098
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:50,200
the comprehensive plan policy 1.4 states the city shall maintain

1099
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:56,560
transportation system and level service standards. This is based on sufficient data and

1100
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:04,940
analysis. We're heavily leaning on the 2050 long-range transportation plan prepared by the county.

1101
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:12,080
And it also creates logically an orderly development pattern based on long-range plans and

1102
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,340
and orderly development patterns in the city.

1103
01:31:16,220 --> 01:31:19,320
So with that, staff's finding is the

1104
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,120
amendment is consistent with the standards of review.

1105
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,500
Staff's recommendation was approval of this transportation

1106
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:28,120
and capital improvement elements, tax amendments,

1107
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,980
and planning is only board also at July 16th meeting,

1108
01:31:32,260 --> 01:31:33,940
recommended approval for to zero.

1109
01:31:38,620 --> 01:31:40,600
I can't believe that wasn't already in their aviation

1110
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,260
It's been in the works long.

1111
01:31:42,260 --> 01:31:43,140
Yeah, that's fine.

1112
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,020
Yeah, so it should have been in there.

1113
01:31:45,020 --> 01:31:47,180
Yeah, so probably should have been there

1114
01:31:47,180 --> 01:31:51,180
or will we adopt in 2018, so we want to.

1115
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,380
Anyone like to make a motion?

1116
01:31:54,140 --> 01:31:55,840
Motion to approve set ordinance.

1117
01:31:56,440 --> 01:31:56,760
Second.

1118
01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:57,740
All right.

1119
01:31:58,180 --> 01:31:58,700
Okay.

1120
01:31:59,260 --> 01:32:00,660
Any public comment?

1121
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,060
Seeing none, I'll close public comment 11.

1122
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,880
Oh, four AM and ask for a roll call.

1123
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:08,980
Mr. Boss.

1124
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:09,340
Yes.

1125
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:10,140
Mrs. Moore.

1126
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:11,280
Yes. Mr. Carol.

1127
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:11,820
Yes.

1128
01:32:11,820 --> 01:32:15,880
Mayor Dingo. Yes. Mayor Katunia. Yes. Pass five to zero. Yes.

1129
01:32:17,980 --> 01:32:21,920
An ordinance of the City of Air Beach floor to relating to septic tank effluent pump

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step systems modifying section 78-54 of the code of the City of Air Beach floor to city code

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to ride incentives for installation of step systems and gravity sewer assessment project

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providing for a business impact statement, providing for conflict and severability, providing for

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application providing for the

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correction of scavengers airs, providing

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for ratification of certain

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existing ordinances and providing

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for an effective date.

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Good morning, Rob Bolton

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Water and Surdirector, this

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ordinance is a an ordinance for

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incentives that you've seen over and

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over and over again in the past,

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However, in this case, it applies to the town of Indian Railroad,

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and really anywhere that a gravity sewer system is installed versus a step system.

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It gives the same monetary value to the gravity sewer customer,

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as it does to the step system.

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There's two parts to it.

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One is the step up and save component where it's accredited for getting rid of your septic tank and hooking to the sewer.

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That's $2,290.

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In the case of the step system, there was a $1,100 credit if you paid cash for your equipment.

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In the case of the gravity sewer projects that are occurring in the town,

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the city is fronting the money for the installation of the gravity sewer part.

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The town is paying for the roadwork and drainage that's being done.

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So, if a customer comes in before we do our first assessment role, once the project is done,

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we'll tell them what is owed, we'll give a deadline, which the deadline will be before

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the town meets to have the assessment role ratified, if they come in and pay for the assessment

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in cash upfront, then we will give them another $1100, if they go on the assessment role,

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they will not get the $1100.

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Oh, OK.

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OK.

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For the town of any river shores, we've also applied for a grant

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or, yeah, I've submitted it last week.

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So we applied for a grant for both step system installations.

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And then for the Gravity sewer component,

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I think the Gravity sewer was about 12,000 to 12,500 per

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which all in when it's said and then brings it down closer to what the step system installation is if if the grant is

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So

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the

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This is just for any river shores, but the same it really is our ordinance so it applies the the driving factor was in the river shores

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But it's a blanket across our entire water and sewer. Okay, great. That's where I was getting out

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help each area down there in moreings still applies.

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It's still applies to that.

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Everybody could wear as is, say, the town of Indian

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or resource because that's what more or less, you know,

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brought it to the attention that we should give something.

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Okay.

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So, Rob, these septic to sewer connections are mandated

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by the state with a deadline of 2030.

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July 1st of 2030 for areas outside the city limits.

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Thank you.

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Okay. So, I'll make a motion that we approve this ordinance for dashes, ordinance,

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column of your new reviewers and centers to step assistance and gravity sewer with the understanding it's for the whole service area.

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It is for the whole.

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Okay.

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And you actually have a town, new town council member that's, yes.

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Three, some more.

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It's a shame Bob left, I couldn't hear that there's something positive, you know.

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We have a good second.

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Tell the member Carol.

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How kind of thank you.

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Thank you.

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So, public comment.

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Roll call, please.

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Mr. Boss.

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Yes.

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Mr. Moore.

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Yes.

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Mr. Carol.

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Yes.

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Vice Mayor Dingo.

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Yes.

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Yeah. Yes. That's the five to zero. And with this, we're going to take a 10 minute break to 1120. Thank you.