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Greetings, I'm Robert Soper here.

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As soon as I have the reporting and streaming, I'm on the website.

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So, this is our public website and the open-out of the live video here.

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So we can watch it while we're in here in case something is not showing some of the

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Yeah, that little preview window on the restaurant is not always doesn't show where everything

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Sometimes it takes a bit of 30 seconds,

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but the delay is on me

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One, two, well, our first meeting in February. You know, February, a bit of a humble month, but when you, when you look at it, you know, okay, Valentine's Day, family day, lots of things in February, so welcome once again to our meeting now.

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Our first study of the business council this morning is a is an in-camera matter, but I believe we need to lift from the table first

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I'll just

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the item

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I'll just check the city platform. Well, is that is that procedureally

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Correct that we lift that item and then go on camera mr.

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I'll just set the direction that is correct. Thank you.

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And this situation will take also I will call for emotion

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And I will read that particular, a particular motion, a city court blog, well, to lift you from the table, and I will call in council and me to move it in councilor Jeffries, the second way.

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There's all the accounts of the city of Red deer having considered the report from plan city planning and growth dated February 14th, 2022, re annexation, notice of intent to annex, hereby agrees to live from the table consideration of annexation.

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And once again, that is consciously in Jeffery's, any post-lifting that item from the cable console.

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They are not posed, that would be passed unanimously.

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So we will now go into camera.

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We'll call on Councillor Goodson as a member of Councillor White just as a seconder. Are there any opposed to going in the camera at this point? They're being done.

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The telephone could you let us know when our system is ready and we will proceed.

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Mayor Johnston, your in open session.

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Thank you. So welcome back to open session members of the public in the media, in that we were originally scheduled to 11 today to

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I will call a recess, you know, and reconvene our open session and let it in. Thank you everyone.

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So welcome back after our break here to an open session out of Council for February 14th at the valentine student.

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Everyone tuning in, the media and so forth, welcome to this council meeting as a continues.

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So the first item of business council on our agenda this point is points of interest.

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The three counselors that wish to share points of interest at this time.

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Thank you, Mayor Johnson, and just to give Council a quick update, I will be providing a warning

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depth report, but as part of a climate leadership caucus that I'm participating in this

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being the first week that we've started to get to the other and go over some of the initiatives.

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One of the items that came up was Councilor from Paul River introduced a project that they

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been piloting over the last year through Visa Transit, and that is on demand transit.

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So it's an app that provides share service to allow mobility and efficiency.

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The nice thing about this project is it's showing monetary feedback into their city where

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traditionally, they don't see as a revenue generating stream rather they see transit and, you

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know, a service that's necessary to be provided by anyone, just call these four, those

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that are trying to get to work in the rounder community where they're unable to do so.

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I thought that was really encouraging because I know our intrinsic manager is looking at initiatives

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So I thought I'd bring that up because it was just timely and something that Reggers looking at is.

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Thank you, Councillor. Any other, any further points of interest for Council today?

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Thank you very much for that. I will say it was my pleasure to last week to visit two wonderful citizens of our city.

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Violet Williams, who turned 105 last Sunday, pretty remarkable, she, you know, a former nursing instructor, very, quite an active leader in our community, and she reminded me to be a responsible stewards of her tax policy, and I really appreciate that.

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And so I also went to visit another lady named Claude Mitchell, Claude, turned the

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hundred.

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Last Wednesday at the midterm, extended peer facility, and she had a reminder for me

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to live one day at a time.

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So that was just council, I think, to grab the present, to learn from the past and leave

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future into the hands of the divine different states.

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So wonderful, wonderful, wonderful encounters with citizens.

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Thank you very much for that.

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That's our next item is the report from our city park.

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There's a lot of, I may proceed to vital update item 3.1, this is an opportunity for council

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to hear, to listen, to ask questions before the by-law returns on the 28th.

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So, I'm sure I will have you already with your report please take a seat.

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Mayor Johnston, I am ready to proceed, however we are having difficulties with our video streaming

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at this point in time, so I would like to take a brief recess to try to correct the issue.

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All ready?

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Thank you, Ms. Robwell.

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I see it's 11 on slide, where is this 1110?

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Thank you, Mayor Johnston.

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Test, test, test.

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Your Johnston were ready to proceed.

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And thank you for resolving that matter for us.

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So Mr. I'm Mr. I will now give you this one.

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Thank you, Mayor Johnston, and good morning, council. Since the 2020, my apologies for the presentation.

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2021 election administration in council have been working to improve council meeting practices by modernizing

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processes reflecting leading practices across the province and meeting management and working

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with administration and council to identify opportunities to improve our meeting processes.

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Over the last several months, council has seen many changes implemented, and today we're

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here to consult with council as the primary stakeholder on the procedure by law. Today's report

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in presentation highlights some of the main recommendations that administration has for a new

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The

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first recommendation from administration is the introduction of an Agenda Review Committee.

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An Agenda Review Committee is being introduced to improve transparency and processes used for setting council meeting agendas.

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The committee is recommended to be comprised of the mayor, deputy mayor, and will function in accordance with the written terms of reference.

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Meetings will be open to the public unless otherwise protected under the freedom of information and protection of privacy act.

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Next slide.

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Recommendation number two is to clarify principles of conduct.

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Administration is recommending clarifying the conduct of administration, council, and the public to improve every meeting participants understanding and expectations during a council meeting.

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Next slide.

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The next recommendation is in regards to speaking times.

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Administration is recommending the reduction of public speaking times from 10 minutes.

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Your microphone, your audio is weakening.

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I wonder if you can adjust that for us.

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Well, certainly Mayor Johnston.

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Is this better?

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Yes, it is.

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Thank you.

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Administration is recommending the reduction of public speaking times from 10 minutes to 5 minutes

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to support meeting efficiency.

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Council's direction is requested on Council members speaking times.

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The current procedure by law allows members of Council to speak for 10 minutes on each item.

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This includes all questions, but not the time for responses from administration, as well

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as debate on all motions relating to a matter included in the agenda, as well as all of its amendments

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and related motions.

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Several comparable municipalities defined council speaking times in their procedure by law.

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The vast majority of those are set at five minutes and noted further in your agenda.

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Next slide.

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Notice of motion to reconsider.

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In the current procedure by law member of council may introduce a notice of motion to request reconsideration of a previous matter.

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The reconsideration process has certain requirements as does the notice of motion process.

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Currently, confusion arises because of their requirements for different notice of motion

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processes.

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During this recommending that we define a notice of motion to reconsider to minimize confusion between the two.

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Next slide,

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recesses and adjournment. Council has recently shared with administration that they want to focus more on the health and wellness of meeting participants.

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And in particular, ensure that break and meal times are provided for during meetings. The current procedure by law states that council can recess a meeting until the next meeting of council.

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It is recommended that the procedure by law introduced the allowance for recess to be set

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on an agenda, and recommend a recess minimum of 30 minutes in every five hours to meet

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and support Council and Administration's health and wellness.

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The current procedure by law does not have any specifications regarding a time of adjournment.

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It is recommended that Council meetings adjourn when the meeting excluding recesses reaches

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eight hours in duration.

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Council may pass a motion to suspend the rules when the time of adjournment or recess would interfere with Council's business.

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Next slide,

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electronic meetings. The current procedure by law only allows Council to have electronic meetings during an emergency.

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As our meeting technology can now easily support electronic meetings, it is recommended that this emergency provision be removed to allow electronic meetings for council.

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I would like to note that the current time at the current time the government of Alberta has a regulation in place called the meeting procedures COVID-19 suppression regulation, which allows Council, committees, and commissions to meet electronically during the pandemic.

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Council's electronic meetings over the last two years have been in alignment with this regulation which currently supersedes our procedure by law.

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Next slide, public hearings.

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It is recommended that information related

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to public hearings be greatly expanded.

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Legal services has been working with legislative services

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to provide us with transparent practices

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to provide the public certainty around the conduct of public hearings.

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By expanding the public hearing provisions,

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we will improve the transparency of our hearings.

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Next slide,

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Council member inquiries.

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A Council member inquiry process is currently aligned in the procedure by law.

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Administration recommends that we expand the language to convey the principle that one member of Council cannot direct the work of administration.

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To support this, we would add a requirement that any time an administration was being asked by a single member,

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so looking to an inquiry that required a significant use of city resources, it would have to be endorsed by the majority of Council in the public meeting.

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This would ensure that administration continues to take direction from a majority of council.

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Next slide,

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Parliamentary procedure.

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Administration has been conducting a thorough analysis of Robert's rules of order newly revised in preparing for recommendations to the procedure by law.

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Administration will be bringing forward a number of recommendations aimed at reducing contradictions between the procedure by law and Robert's rules of order newly revised.

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When in contradictions are done intentionally, we would work to have these items further

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expanded in the procedure by law to ensure that the processes are clearly explained.

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Some of the primary areas that would be impacted by this include defining required administrative

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attendance, except for a member of administration would have a direct interest, such as the

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preparation of a city manager's performance evaluation, changing a point of privilege to

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question of privilege, changing a point of information to a parliamentary inquiry, introducing

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the consent calendar, replacing the term tabling with postpone, limiting the number of motion

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types and clarifying the processes and rules related to the permitted motion types, introducing

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the concept of general consent.

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And again, these are all areas that are in alignment with Robert's rules of order newly revised.

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Next slide.

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Our next steps.

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Administration is working towards preparing a draft by law for Council's consideration.

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Based on the feedback received today, we will begin final preparations of the by law

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and look to bring back a by law to a future meeting of Council.

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Following third reading, we would enter an implementation phase.

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We acknowledge that the procedure by law would result in changes for Council administration and the public.

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We know that Council is committed to good governance, to a good reputation in our community for decision making.

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And to support this change, we will work to help guide, teach, and support Council in the implementation of our new procedure by law.

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After implementation, the work will still continue.

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The changes we are recommending are based on best practices in parliamentary procedure and leading practices of other municipalities.

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We have already identified additional improvements to come in the future, such as the introduction of a committee of the whole.

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We will continue to work to identify areas and learn from other municipalities for future enhancements in the procedure by law.

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During your term, we hope that Council will share their thoughts on the procedure by law and work to continuously improve the by law and our associated meeting practices.

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next slide.

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In today's meeting we want to ensure that Council has the information and

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understanding that you need to ensure that you're ready for first reading of a brand new

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procedure by law. Today we are here to support you and answering general questions regarding

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administration's recommendations and the themes that have been provided today. We also hope

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to hear from members of Council and in particular learn what you do not have enough information

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on, what you may not understand at this point in time and what administration has missed in

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our recommended amendments. We will bring further information back at first reading based

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on Council's consultation today. Thank you very much and we're ready to answer any questions.

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Thank you for the support.

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So, Council, I will, you're in question.

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Starting with Council.

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Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor.

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And I have an information that's really,

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Mr. Chair and City Clerk, well, thank you so much for the work

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that has gone on today.

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So, just a couple of questions.

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The first one is on page 6,

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with respect to the speaking council.

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It's speaking time for council.

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So, in the view of these other jurisdictions,

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Thank you very much. This is very helpful for counseling to see what other jurisdictions within Alberta are doing.

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The disease times include the time, council, spans and asking questions.

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Through the mayor to Councillor Hayam, the majority of procedure by one.

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I was quoted, are almost direct quotes from their procedure by law. So they're not clear on splitting

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their times between questions and comments. You will see for the city of Calgary, they split based

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on motion type. However, the city of Reddier is not recommending that due to limitations of

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our technology and the amount of administrative time that it would take to split timing members

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council per motion. The majority, the other member are comparable

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municipalities that you're not seeing here, do not have any clear language in their

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procedure by law related to speaking times. So what you are seeing is nearly

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verbatim from those municipalities, but most certainly prior to first reading, we

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could do an administrative inquiry to those municipalities to confirm their

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method of timing. Thank you. I'm not sure that's necessary, but I will move on to my next

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question, thank you, because that was very helpful on its own. The second one is on page 7,

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and it's with respect to the point of information.

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It is proposed to be a change to parliamentary

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inquiry. Can you just elaborate on that in front of me? Because you're this body of council and

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the work that we do is not a parliamentary committee or a parliamentary body. So just a comment

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is on why that is being proposed.

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Thank you, Councillor Haye.

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I am through the mayor.

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A point of information, as it currently stands in your procedure, Bala, is not something

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that's included in Roberts' rules of order newly revised.

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Roberts' rules is what we refer to as a parliamentary authority, so it's where we can go

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for further information and guidance on parliamentary practices.

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Council is deemed to be what's called a deliberative assembly, so an assembly where each

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members allowed to speak and vote on motions and matters are decided by a majority.

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Those are the principal foundation of being a deliberative body.

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So by being that deliberative body, you are able to look to Roberts rules of order as that parliamentary authority.

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And by bringing that language into alignment with Roberts rules of order, we would limit any place where there is

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to grab and see between our practices.

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So if we ever had an issue in a council meeting,

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we're a procedure ballot didn't provide us enough direction.

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We would be able to look at Roberts

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and make some recommendations based on their advice.

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I see, so it's just purely to align our processes

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with Roberts' rules.

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That's correct.

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OK, thank you.

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That's helpful.

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And my final question is, has there ever been a minutes?

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It was respect to the very final motion types on page 7?

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Is there ever been an issue in the past where a councilor has attempted to bring a type of

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motion that wouldn't be included in the list that administration is proposing?

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Is this different than an issue, is what I'm wondering?

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Typically for members of council administration's serves to guide you and support you and

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your resolution making.

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We have encountered situations where a member of council may not use the exact words as

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recorded in Roberts, Roberts actually has 86 motion types.

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So while a member of council may not be requesting to use a motion exactly as it's been

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described in Roberts, we have encountered situations where a motion in Roberts may have captured

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a situation better.

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However, it would also introduce a number of practices that council wasn't familiar with.

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So our council currently doesn't utilize things like a motion requiring a two-thirds majority

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on a frequent basis. And when we start to interlay practices and processes that Council has

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never seen, administration has never seen, and our public has never seen, it becomes increasingly

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confusing. So our recommendation is that by limiting from the 86 motion types that are

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available in Roberts down to worst-emitting 10 at this point in time, it helps to make your meetings

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a lot easier to understand for the average person. When a new member joins Council, they understand

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what their options are afforded to them, they don't have to be a parliamentarian to participate

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in these meetings.

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And that was our primary purpose of limiting those motion types was to make it as easy as

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possible to participate in a meeting.

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On your response then, so are you confident that those possibly ten motion types would cover

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any type of motion attempt, an attempt to make a motion by a counselor that you've seen

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in the past.

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There's historically, these ten would cover any sort of situation that a council would want

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to bring a motion for.

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The ten that are recommended by administration do cover the vast majority.

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The ones that are not covered are essentially so obscure that there is very limited possibility

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that council would be looking to introduce those motion types.

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Council does have the authority to suspend the rules at any point in time.

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So if you did the need arise to introduce a different motion type, we would just do a motion to suspend and introduce the new motion type, but I am quite confident that 99% of situations can be handled by the 10 motion types being recommended.

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Thank you, Isaac, terrific answer and that's all I have to do there.

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Thank you.

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Will you consider it?

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I have constantly followed by council arrangements.

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Thank you, Mayor Johnson.

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My first question is in relation to the expansion of speaking time.

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My question on that is currently council does not have any way through the technology as presented.

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So, identify what, where they are at, is speaking time, is that a consideration, in this

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name format given, you said, that's taking technology to do so.

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Through the mayor to Councillor Lee, a number of years ago we updated our meeting management

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technology and council chambers.

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However, this also coincided with the COVID-19 pandemic, so what council is not aware of is that

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We have had that technology in Council Chambers for almost two years, and when you return

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to Council Chambers, we are prepared for Council to see their speaking times on the computer

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screens in front of them, as well as on the screens within Chambers itself.

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So you will be able to utilize that as soon as there's a return to City Hall.

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I'm happy to hear that.

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next question, in relation to informing Council on basically the tools that are available in

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that toolbox of emotions, is it contemplated that I'll give you a second example?

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So in your presentation you outlined a potential or direction a council may not direct

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And it's changed of work by their own.

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So what triggers, what labor will you state that it is?

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There is two intensive or two resource intensive to then have a rest main. I just need to know that

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dilation within what you were presenting in that main, which says, give it becomes two owners

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or two resource intensive, then you would ask for council's direction versus the direction of, you know,

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a council are asking for something simple within their own.

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Thank you, Councillor Lee.

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Your interim city manager has flagged the exact same issue that you are noting, and we are

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working with her to develop a recommendation that she would support for administration.

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So, some of the things that we're looking at from other municipalities are things like $2,000

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cost limit, a number of administrative hours.

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So, we are working through that with the interim city manager to try to come up with a reasonable

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number that we think would be acceptable for both administration and council.

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Thank you, Mayor Johnson. Those are my questions. I turn it forward back to you.

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Thank you, council. We are councilor lunches. You are next and followed by councilor rule.

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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you to administration for this report and the work that has been done on the

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by law. First of all, make a comment about follow-up on councilor these questions about the council

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member inquiries. Can you just clarify or how does that align and clarify the processes

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that council may have before us that we want search or response to a council member that

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may help us in making us decisions and doing our work? I'm a little bit concerned about

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how it's worded and that appreciated the deputies clerk's comment about the recommendation

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to the city manager, but I just think that I'm not satisfied with the wording of that.

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So that's my first question.

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Most certainly Councillor White has, when we bring back the draft procedure by law, we can

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make sure to develop that language and provide more thorough answer in the report.

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At this point in time, the intent is that Council would be able to continue with any sort

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of routine business questions that you have.

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Council does have a number of policies and procedures in place related to their communication

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with the organization and administration has policies and procedures in place on how to respond.

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So we would follow those standing practices at the current time. There is no desire at this point to

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amend those. The question is just when one member of one member of council is asking an inquiry

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that administration doesn't have a routinely available answer on or can't be found with a simple

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of research or we have to go back maybe to a consultant that we're working with to have

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them answer the question and when it becomes a really involved answer that's when administration

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wants the ability to ensure that we're using Council's funds appropriately and that a majority

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of Council has endorsed that we do that work because it wouldn't fall within our regular business

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practices but most certainly we'll look at flushing that out further upon first reading.

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Thank you, Ms. Redwell. My next question is just about the conflict of interest that's being removed

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because it's now addressed in the Code of Conduct by law. When will that Code of Conduct

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by law be reviewed by this Council? And will it be in the short term versus the long term?

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Thank you, Councillor Wanchas. I'll defer that question to manage your barrage and perkins.

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There Johnson to consider one just the Code of Conduct Bala is scheduled to come to this council in Q2 and I believe we're scheduled for the early part of the second order.

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I think it is April and it's going to be corrected, but it's around then and I don't quite, I'll have to ask you to repeat the part of your question around short and long term.

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I don't remember.

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I know that's just fine.

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I wanted to, as long as it's coming earlier,

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versus later that was my point.

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So thank you for that, Ms. Bear.

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I'm unsatisfied with that response.

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And then my last question is just about the points of interest.

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Recognizing that not everyone is on social media

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and recognizing that there's value to the public

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who's listening to the council meeting

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in terms of activities.

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And also that council,

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you know we've been using the points of interest in in this term but sometimes it's not used so

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what is the problem in still having it on the agenda and we may not use it but it's still

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will be there if so we become more active in the community and can share some of the issues

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comments on that please.

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Councillor White House this is exactly the reason why we're doing the

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consultation today is we're looking for councils feedback on things such as the recommended removal of

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of interest. Primarily, it's recommended from an administrative perspective because the primary purpose

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of a council meeting is to be a decision-making forum, and points of interest does not require

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a decision to be made. It's just information sharing. As a result, it is our recommendation for

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removal. However, we welcome council's feedback today regarding that matter.

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If you're interested in John Smith, appreciate the good work that's fine into this.

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I have three questions.

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With regards to the first point in terms of gender equality and again being new around the table,

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I'm probably sure how this has been done in the past.

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Is there a provision for an annual plan of meetings?

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And I recognize in many ways that it's responding to current needs.

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But there's also a sort of a significant kind of a regular schedule as to when things come up.

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Also, I guess, in terms of advanced service and I would go back to council, why is this is common?

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Just providing awareness to council members as to when things are coming up, for example, a court of conduct by a lot.

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I think it's helpful for my council perspective to kind of know what may be on the radar and when some of those things are coming up.

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So I'm not sure if that's going to bring you that agenda again, maybe, but in terms of a suggestion that maybe a part of it in terms of the parkingality.

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Councillor interjecting.

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Do you have essentially hit administrations current work on the head?

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So we are actively working to build out more of our routine schedule in 2022.

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We have flagged all of our foundational items for the entire duration of the year.

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all of those items are currently on a fixed schedule for council and one of the items that we would ask this agenda review committee to consider is reviewing an upcoming council schedule and at the current draft we're recommending about five quarters in advance so that wouldn't be all of the items that are scheduled we do have a number of emergent items that come through the council meeting process.

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However, items like attacks, by law, your annual setting of your budget, those are all standard items required by the MGA, lots of them even have standard deadlines associated with them.

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Working at flushing those out and doing an improved job of conveying that information to council, and that would be achieved through those agenda review committee meetings.

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Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You know, questions that have been passed in the community when our public hearing is on on shelter issues and that is helpful to know that.

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But we can share that information, so thank you very much.

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I'm not doing terms of the notice of motion to reconcider.

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I'm not sure if that is a tiny thing of barbecues of order, but there's also a notice

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of motion to be sim.

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I've looked at both the past and current barbecues of order, there is nothing in a firm

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by law regarding motion to be sim.

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Is that other within the reconcider?

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Or is that just yet in terms of general rules of barbecues?

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You revised it that word to come up again, Councillor Burma, you have hit on one of the points

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of why we're introducing the 10 motion types. In particular, Rissind is one that has caused

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us a few issues. Motion to Rissind basically retracts something that Council has done in the past

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and based on the rules and Roberts, it's actually quite easy to achieve. We are recommending

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that Council stick with reconsideration instead of rescinding because we want to be transparent

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to our public, rescinding means that Council gets a new chance to vote on a prior motion

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and in the opinion of administration that is a more transparent practice than rescinding.

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Therefore, we're recommending that Council stick with reconsideration and not be permitted

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to do rescind unless Council passed a motion to suspend the rules.

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Okay, so will that be specific in there because if it is silent then would it not be an avenue available?

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On the motion types we are hoping to be quite specific that we must be in alignment with the ten motion types laid out in the procedure by law and that other motion types wouldn't be considered in less counsel suspended the rules.

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I appreciate the clarification on that, and my final question is in regards to the consent agenda, and I really appreciate the importance of this.

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I'm just wondering if there is a criteria by which that will be a 30 outlined within me by law.

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I just wanted the reasons I asked that if we take a look at this meeting, some of the items that already could be of interest to media are what's going to be in the consent agenda.

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And I'm just wondering if that if that's the guidance that people are doing and the council is not having an opportunity to discuss those if that becomes part of it.

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I absolutely support being a concept of consent agenda.

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You can see that with the guidance today, but as our community is looking for some of those particular ones.

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And if council is not speaking to those, I'm just wondering if that is a consideration.

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And those are my questions.

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Yes, it is Councilor Burma when council considers first reading we would be looking at framing out the requirements for an item to be included on the consent agenda.

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Councilor Burma.

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Thank

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you very much.

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You're worshiping a lot of the questions I was probably going to ask.

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I've been asking, but I still am inquiring about the idea of counseling queries.

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Are we making a distinction here between where some things coming up during a meeting and

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counselors looking for a new or detailed information?

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Or are we also including, we get contacted quite a bit by constituents and the processes that we

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over the long-term administration answer,

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but wondering if we might run into a situation where

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they say, well, that's going to require quite a bit of work to answer that, and then we

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talk about, well, having all of Council at the next meeting, decide whether to proceed

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or not, but I'm not sure that the constituents would be terribly enamored with the thing

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we said okay you're going to the lay along response and that I would say would go against the

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comment that we're looking to increase transparency and responsiveness to our public.

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Through the mayor to Councillor Dodd. Thank you for that feedback. We will look at framing

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out those clarifications when the bylaws brought forward for first reading. Okay, okay.

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That would be my, my main concern,

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I might have a couple of other comments when the time comes.

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Thank you, professor. I have a counselor to listen.

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I'm just very happy to know that I wasn't aware that Roberts had 86 notion types.

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So, my new language resolution is to use all 86 at some point in the report.

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Also, here tonight, I remind you that there's a time limit for a post on council meetings for eight hours.

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So, I would ask for your grace there.

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My more serious questions,

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I have to do with my first question we can, our procedures by law

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Thank you for the question, Councillor Durks, and our procedure by law cannot contradict the

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municipal government act.

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You will see many pieces of information recommended to come forward that are essentially

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direct quotes from the municipal government act because the aim of our introducing our new

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procedure by law is to interlay our provincial legislation.

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Best practices from Roberts Rules of Order, as well as customs from the city of Red deer

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in a really transparent way to ensure that you don't have to be an expert on all things

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to participate in our meetings.

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The second question has to do with the electronic meetings, because the last couple of

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years have revolutionized the way the world works and I'm curious in terms of moving forward.

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what this is going to, what this can look like if you can provide any clarification on that.

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Thank you for the question.

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Our main opinion as administration and moving forward at this point in time is to ensure that

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we recognize the experience that we've had in the last two years and that we have been extremely

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successful at having electronic meetings as well as hybrid meetings where some members are in

432
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:39,240
and some members participate electronically.

433
02:14:39,940 --> 02:14:52,660
So with these are recommendations that we are ready at this point to remove that electronic meetings are only used in an emergency situation and kind of open that door to allow electronic meetings in the future.

434
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:03,460
The High Court.

435
02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:14,760
Councillor Dirkson, at this point in time, we have not framed that matter out in particularly, but most certainly, that's something we can look as we bring the ballot to first reading.

436
02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:33,380
Okay, and my last question is actually going to go back to my understanding of what a committee of a whole previously, could do or not to and how that relates to the agenda and review committee.

437
02:15:33,380 --> 02:15:45,460
So I think as a, as a, as a, a little bit of a, some time, some time, some pages to bring items to the table and I'm not sure how to get it on the agenda.

438
02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:49,440
And whether that's going to be clarified in this slide law.

439
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:59,960
At this point in time administration has not drafted recommendations to really change the process and council members getting an item on the agenda.

440
02:15:59,960 --> 02:16:08,980
However, by introducing the agenda review committee, checking in on that schedule and providing feedback on that schedule,

441
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:16,520
Council will, by virtue of that, have a new level of understanding about our scheduling practices as administration.

442
02:16:17,180 --> 02:16:21,740
And I would just see if GM Perkins or the interim city manager has any further comments on that.

443
02:16:32,140 --> 02:16:37,160
Thank you, Sam, or Ms. Farbelle, and responding to that, the agenda we've been committing.

444
02:16:37,500 --> 02:16:44,600
We are piloting now as a committee that meets some of the regular basis to review the agenda.

445
02:16:44,860 --> 02:16:50,720
As that come forward, we also start looking at what's coming forward on the next council or workshops.

446
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:57,440
This formalizes it and makes it much more transparent, as well as members of the public,

447
02:16:57,440 --> 02:17:04,540
continue to the committee meeting. So it is getting to that point where we are much more

448
02:17:04,540 --> 02:17:10,560
in the open, as well as looking forward on a much longer term basis.

449
02:17:15,500 --> 02:17:21,200
There are a little bit of newcomers, not a way, but that's different. Certainly, council. Thank you.

450
02:17:22,640 --> 02:17:23,120
Thank

451
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:26,900
you, Jonathan.

452
02:17:28,260 --> 02:17:32,560
I just have one question and some more of a general inquiry.

453
02:17:33,420 --> 02:17:37,140
I wanted to make sure I took time and allowed for a more experienced councilor's

454
02:17:37,140 --> 02:17:41,100
to have their advice and they've dealt with this for a longer period of time.

455
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:43,060
Just to see where they're concerned with a wife.

456
02:17:43,940 --> 02:17:47,920
And being just under four months and only having seven meetings that are my adults

457
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:54,020
and still trying to get a lot of these real dengradulations kind of sort of out within my

458
02:17:54,020 --> 02:17:59,380
you know, understanding of how everything works through. So, just my general question is obviously there's many little

459
02:17:59,380 --> 02:18:07,020
things that we're making to the by-law, but just from administration's perspective of all the suggestions that are in here,

460
02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:18,420
what would be the most drastic changes that would make the biggest difference for a minute, for if they could pinpoint maybe a couple of loads they see as big changes that would be a harder adjustment to make.

461
02:18:22,420 --> 02:18:28,780
Thank you for the question, Councillor Barnes-Sable, most certainly one that I had not prepared to answer today.

462
02:18:29,900 --> 02:18:36,780
For my perspective, and I'm going to turn to GM Perkins and to the interim city manager for their feedback as well.

463
02:18:37,220 --> 02:18:42,580
For my perspective, I think one of the largest changes is going to be the introduction of an agenda review committee.

464
02:18:42,900 --> 02:18:47,980
As the interim city manager said, it is a practice that we're already doing a trial run of,

465
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But by having a properly framed terms of reference, clearly establishing that committee and

466
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:58,340
a really transparent fashion, I think that opens up those conversations to be a lot more

467
02:18:58,340 --> 02:19:03,680
informative seeing Council playing a lot more of an active role in the actual agenda setting,

468
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:08,800
well developing really clear boundaries between administration and Council to make sure

469
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:13,140
that we're all acting in the appropriate functions that are assigned to us.

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02:19:13,140 --> 02:19:23,160
So I think from my administrative perspective, most certainly that would be one of the largest when it comes to my team and I'll defer to Jim Perkins in the interim city manager for theirs.

471
02:19:28,420 --> 02:19:32,240
I'll go next plan if I can, in terms of any manager worldwide.

472
02:19:33,300 --> 02:19:37,000
So I'm going to talk a little bit about the updates from a timing perspective.

473
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:45,120
I've been really impressed by this council's appetite to meet positive changes in the procedure by law.

474
02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:50,240
Whether you would have called that your procedure by law or not, things that will help

475
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:54,460
meeting effectiveness and one of them that I see is a huge change in here and it's small,

476
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:55,220
but it's huge.

477
02:19:55,460 --> 02:19:56,880
The ability to recess.

478
02:19:58,580 --> 02:20:04,500
The impossibility of putting a time limit on your council meetings, those two are big in terms

479
02:20:04,500 --> 02:20:08,820
of making sure we're all in the right-head space and have the right energy to make decisions

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02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:14,640
so that we're caring for the well-being of council, our public, and ourselves going forward.

481
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:17,780
So, they're that one for me is significant.

482
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:23,120
The other piece interesting in the timing is, and you're here bringing in the answers to the questions.

483
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:27,360
We have really fortunate to have Ms. Rodwell as our city clerk.

484
02:20:27,880 --> 02:20:34,340
And in terms of timing, she has done a lot of learning and education on parliamentary procedures.

485
02:20:34,740 --> 02:20:40,980
So, I'm also leveraging that and cleaning up this bylaws so that I don't want to say everybody can be an expert in procedure.

486
02:20:41,700 --> 02:20:46,460
But it should make it that much easier that the rules of and I don't want to co-count some

487
02:20:46,460 --> 02:20:47,140
meeting again.

488
02:20:47,140 --> 02:20:52,160
But the rules of how you participate together should be transparent for everyone to pick up

489
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:54,900
that book and know how to participate in a good way.

490
02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:58,080
There's a little bit.

491
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:06,180
Thank you, GM Perkins, and I would completely agree with what you mentioned as your top change.

492
02:21:06,660 --> 02:21:13,600
I really want to commend council for things like taking on the consent agenda and trying

493
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:20,020
for a while before it's claimed to the procedure by law that's made a huge difference for administration

494
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:26,680
and how we bring things forward and that we're focusing on where we need to focus.

495
02:21:27,220 --> 02:21:34,640
You are a decision-making body and we need to use this time wisely to get those decisions and move

496
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:42,280
our community forward. So I really see a shift to that decision-making rather than the information sharing.

497
02:21:45,160 --> 02:21:49,440
Thank you, and I have, I actually just, I'm up with another question based upon the

498
02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:50,220
G&P current.

499
02:21:51,460 --> 02:21:53,000
Back to the time of the adjournment.

500
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:54,960
We were looking at that data hours.

501
02:21:55,420 --> 02:21:58,060
Obviously, we've already with this count of about a community that has surpassed the

502
02:21:58,060 --> 02:21:58,300
$8.

503
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So if we do, we'll pass that data over time frame.

504
02:22:01,860 --> 02:22:04,240
How does the meeting get brought back?

505
02:22:04,480 --> 02:22:05,580
Is it additional meetings?

506
02:22:06,740 --> 02:22:09,500
Is it, you know, you know, within the framework, especially,

507
02:22:09,500 --> 02:22:19,420
The public hearing process and I know that sometimes can be, you know, timely or lengthy.

508
02:22:20,180 --> 02:22:27,380
And so, how do they, how do we get everything covered into the cover if it's going to go above and be on low data hours?

509
02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:28,600
I guess we won't find it out.

510
02:22:30,430 --> 02:22:42,130
Through the mayor to Councillor Barnes stable, there are a number of methods that council can use to defer those matters. However, I do want to start right from the point of trying not to exceed eight hours.

511
02:22:42,790 --> 02:22:51,430
You will see the introduction of the consent agenda by ensuring that council understands the full-sum schedule instead of just the matters before you.

512
02:22:51,430 --> 02:22:56,590
help to hopefully give Council that perspective to understand where you might want to be spending

513
02:22:56,590 --> 02:23:00,410
more time and less time based on issues of community importance.

514
02:23:00,510 --> 02:23:07,270
So we're trying to get you to a more efficient meeting so that you exceed eight hours on a

515
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:08,330
lower number of occasions.

516
02:23:08,830 --> 02:23:14,690
On the occasions that you do exceed eight hours, you first have the option to suspend the rules

517
02:23:14,690 --> 02:23:17,130
and choose to exceed eight hours.

518
02:23:17,630 --> 02:23:20,430
Your second option would be to table the remaining items.

519
02:23:20,910 --> 02:23:25,530
And your third option would be to reconvene your meeting on another day.

520
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So you would take a recess at that point of eight hours.

521
02:23:29,170 --> 02:23:31,830
And you would establish a time that you would reconvene.

522
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:33,550
We would state that during the meeting.

523
02:23:33,710 --> 02:23:36,890
So that the public was aware of the time that you were going to reconvene.

524
02:23:37,090 --> 02:23:39,230
And we would recommence that meeting on another day.

525
02:23:39,230 --> 02:23:39,630
Thank

526
02:23:42,350 --> 02:23:46,970
you for that answer. I'm just having my coffee ready for tomorrow or meeting so I'm ready to go.

527
02:23:47,770 --> 02:23:51,230
So if you need to go to eight hours I'd be fine with that too. Thank you.

528
02:23:53,380 --> 02:23:55,300
Thank you, Councillor Jones.

529
02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:59,020
Thank you very much, Mayor Johnson.

530
02:23:59,720 --> 02:23:59,820
Why?

531
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:00,820
Question.

532
02:24:01,220 --> 02:24:07,120
I think might be related to council agencies line of thinking on the committee of the whole.

533
02:24:07,900 --> 02:24:11,020
Thinking back to past councils that I was part of.

534
02:24:11,020 --> 02:24:17,440
And we often had, I think what was referred to as a committee in the whole meeting, city managers,

535
02:24:17,780 --> 02:24:22,440
needing perhaps as it was referred to at one point, and they really gave us an opportunity

536
02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:29,260
to have that informal discussion about some ideas around, share some things we've referred

537
02:24:29,260 --> 02:24:31,820
from other areas of whatever it might be.

538
02:24:32,020 --> 02:24:36,300
So I think that's an important piece, especially when we're in New Counselor, where we have

539
02:24:36,300 --> 02:24:37,080
new people.

540
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:43,740
I guess, we often were caught in by legal counsel at that time.

541
02:24:43,920 --> 02:24:44,280
Be careful.

542
02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:49,440
Your discussion is entering into something that shouldn't be, you know, it shouldn't be more

543
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:50,060
transparent.

544
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:55,020
If you're into decision making, what you can't go into decision making mode, and I respect

545
02:24:55,020 --> 02:24:55,740
that.

546
02:24:56,280 --> 02:25:00,620
But I think that some of those discussions that we have in it are more informal set is

547
02:25:00,620 --> 02:25:08,880
that we've managed to get, you know, some important workhorse and shared thinking happening

548
02:25:08,880 --> 02:25:15,260
and that interchange. I recognize part of that is we're restricted a little bit by being in

549
02:25:15,260 --> 02:25:21,160
the role that we're in with COVID and restrictions on meeting electronically, but can we do that?

550
02:25:21,300 --> 02:25:30,060
Can we have that in slow-heartedly eating time in a way that's acceptable and as transparent as possible?

551
02:25:31,900 --> 02:25:35,800
Through the Mayor to Councillor Jeffries, I think that you've done a really good job of outlining

552
02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:42,700
some of the complexities of what is a meeting and most certainly the MGA was amended in 2017

553
02:25:42,700 --> 02:25:47,680
to provide even some additional context on top of that that hasn't been taken into consideration

554
02:25:47,680 --> 02:25:54,140
in our procedure by what at this point in time. So that is why administrations wanting to come back

555
02:25:54,140 --> 02:26:01,420
on that matter. It's really another great topic for Council to be involved in.

556
02:26:01,420 --> 02:26:13,960
It's another really large topic in area of research for administration and we want to make sure that when we do that process, that we do it right, that we're doing that in the best service to Council, the best service to administration.

557
02:26:14,860 --> 02:26:27,680
And so we didn't want to rush that portion of this procedure by law. So we're seeing our recommendation at this point of time is to remove committee of the whole. There were provisions that were in there for committee of the whole.

558
02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:33,760
In my seven years here at the city of Red deer, I do not believe that I've seen a committee of the whole utilized.

559
02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:38,820
Instead, we used to utilize what was called a governance and policies committee meeting.

560
02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:40,380
And also known as GPC.

561
02:26:41,060 --> 02:26:44,600
GPC was removed from the committees by a lot about a year ago.

562
02:26:45,280 --> 02:26:47,660
And so Council is currently without that space.

563
02:26:47,800 --> 02:26:50,420
So we're looking at giving you a really great set of research.

564
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:56,420
Some analysis based on some consultation with members of administration and bringing that back in a really great way

565
02:26:56,420 --> 02:27:01,580
to make sure that we're properly supporting Council instead of rushing that piece of work.

566
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:04,500
Thank you very much. Sounds good.

567
02:27:05,080 --> 02:27:08,320
We can cancel and see Council Bruno.

568
02:27:09,500 --> 02:27:11,740
Council Bruno Gates, it's Valentine's Day.

569
02:27:11,940 --> 02:27:15,700
So that is the reason I'm giving you this redress.

570
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:18,260
So take advantage of Valentine's Day, Council Bruno.

571
02:27:19,700 --> 02:27:21,380
I love it, thank you.

572
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:27,340
I'm sorry, one of your questions, part of the, as a result, of the Councilor Barron

573
02:27:27,340 --> 02:27:31,440
Cable's question is going back to the administration. Are there any ways that you

574
02:27:31,440 --> 02:27:36,800
feed or be a gender can be better done in the reason of asking that question? There appears

575
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:41,840
as we see them reports, there's often times that it's a creative repetition within reports.

576
02:27:42,300 --> 02:27:46,000
And I'm not sure if that will be done within the by-law or if that's the part of your

577
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:50,500
administrative process. And so I look particularly at our by-law regarding

578
02:27:50,500 --> 02:27:55,240
newspapers, where there's several variations of being meant to buy lots of schedules and

579
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:59,980
not people with it that are a number of pages and not, but as they say, there's

580
02:27:59,980 --> 02:28:04,700
often times within both the summary and rational and those types of things.

581
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:10,420
And here's a requirement for all of that, but oftentimes there is a repetition of some

582
02:28:10,420 --> 02:28:16,640
scenario, so I'm not sure how to double the note, but I think it does speak in the face of

583
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:17,380
trying to be efficient.

584
02:28:19,050 --> 02:28:26,130
Through the Mayor to Councillor Beruma, the content of the reports we try to keep as an administrative practice.

585
02:28:26,970 --> 02:28:36,730
I will mention that interim city manager, Lodwick, has really encouraged us to change some of our agenda setting practices at this point in time,

586
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:43,830
and some of the things that we consider particularly in the creation of the agenda you have today is ensuring that members of Council

587
02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:49,510
who have not previously seen these items were provided with the proper round of information

588
02:28:49,510 --> 02:28:54,330
that they needed. We've really been looking and been very conscious about bringing forward

589
02:28:54,330 --> 02:28:59,670
appropriate background materials. We do have some longstanding practices as you identified

590
02:28:59,670 --> 02:29:05,810
particularly around the bylaws, where we try to provide you a bylaw in several iterations

591
02:29:05,810 --> 02:29:11,290
to make it as easy to understand as possible. But most certainly interim city manager has

592
02:29:11,290 --> 02:29:17,930
just to look at those and we one of the the biggest things that we're looking at for 2022 is the

593
02:29:17,930 --> 02:29:23,310
introduction of some report writing training for members of administration and hoping to leverage

594
02:29:23,310 --> 02:29:29,030
that to provide you with more consistent reports. We've looked at our templates a number of times already

595
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:34,010
in the last couple of years and we're working to improve those templates every time that we make changes

596
02:29:34,010 --> 02:29:39,290
and I'll just ask if the interim city manager has any further comments because she's been extremely active in this

597
02:29:39,290 --> 02:29:59,410
Thank you, Ms. Rodwell answered it very well. One of the functions you'll see in the new agenda review committee is I asked at the end of a most agenda is there any ideas for improvement or things we want to do differently or ways we can.

598
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:13,860
And that becomes a regular item where we check in with administration and council as to share an ideas and ways we can always be continuously improving.

599
02:30:19,430 --> 02:30:27,150
You can also, you know, if you're familiar with the new TV program called next level of

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02:30:27,150 --> 02:30:31,110
shell, you know, but it starts on a certain level where a bunch of shell's grabbed the

601
02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:35,130
ingredients and then it goes to the second level, they grab some more, they get done with the third

602
02:30:35,130 --> 02:30:40,090
level, it's not much left. So that's a long-winded way of me saying I really don't have any questions

603
02:30:40,850 --> 02:30:46,110
because they, you know, everything's been grabbed and those were great questions, pencil. Thank you very,

604
02:30:46,110 --> 02:30:52,530
very much in need, I think it belongs just to go through a round of comments to help

605
02:30:52,530 --> 02:30:58,970
administration and I'll be because the purpose of our purpose of this encounter was to

606
02:30:58,970 --> 02:31:04,450
question the administration to find out where we could add where we were needed for information

607
02:31:04,450 --> 02:31:12,330
and so on. So I will start with Councillor Lee and follow by Councillor Bones. Thank you so

608
02:31:12,330 --> 02:31:17,490
much Mayor Johnson, and I really do appreciate the work administration's put behind this.

609
02:31:18,270 --> 02:31:25,990
It goes without saying that a procedure by law that's been in effect at least my whole council,

610
02:31:27,820 --> 02:31:33,620
certainly couldn't hurt with the refresh, especially given in the times that we've had the last few years.

611
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:42,640
We probably have tested our patients in many ways in terms of how council meetings have occurred

612
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:44,120
and where we can improve.

613
02:31:44,960 --> 02:31:46,220
Just a few quick comments.

614
02:31:46,700 --> 02:31:48,500
With respect to the general group committee,

615
02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:52,680
I like the fact that it is in public now

616
02:31:52,680 --> 02:31:57,200
and that it would be more transparent in line with the intent

617
02:31:59,170 --> 02:32:01,530
or decision-making body for the community.

618
02:32:02,810 --> 02:32:06,850
I support speaking times for sure.

619
02:32:07,370 --> 02:32:14,010
I think that often we get caught up in not in or not

620
02:32:14,110 --> 02:32:21,850
anticipating others, the wisdom of Council, where points are brought up, the points are often

621
02:32:21,850 --> 02:32:30,050
as Johnson said, exhausted by the time it gets to us. So it really does point to, it doesn't

622
02:32:30,050 --> 02:32:35,070
really matter who brings up the point, it matters that the point is brought up and it's carefully

623
02:32:35,070 --> 02:32:42,530
considered by decision-making mobility. I really like that. I do full-heartedly support the health

624
02:32:42,530 --> 02:32:50,210
list of both not just Council, even though this Council will probably know, it's okay for me.

625
02:32:50,410 --> 02:32:59,190
I'm with Kramer. I can go 16-18 hours, guaranteed I can go that long wouldn't matter, but that's

626
02:32:59,190 --> 02:33:03,930
it's not about me, it's about the Council on the decision-making, bargaining those that are supporting

627
02:33:03,930 --> 02:33:12,690
me. So I really think that that is good. I also really like that that we will tone it down

628
02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:23,410
to a position where council only has to understand and utilize 10, 10 points of order or 10

629
02:33:23,410 --> 02:33:30,230
Roberts rules that mainly revised things to the end terms of media logistics. I will say one thing

630
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:37,530
points of interest, I want 100% sold on one year and another. I look forward to the report

631
02:33:37,530 --> 02:33:45,550
in terms of how that does happen. But again, I recognize my style is to get on social media

632
02:33:45,550 --> 02:33:52,430
or those other platforms to inform. So I'm not really there, but I do appreciate that other

633
02:33:52,430 --> 02:34:05,270
It was a council meeting on space, is that so really great job overall, I think this is just the start of our rebound.

634
02:34:06,110 --> 02:34:10,450
There will be lots of opportunity, you know,

635
02:34:12,740 --> 02:34:21,260
and you'll basis to continue to form, make our meetings more effective, more transparent to the public,

636
02:34:21,260 --> 02:34:26,340
and more efficient in the decision-making process, so back to you, Mayor Johnson.

637
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:30,680
Because our customer, Brent, say, will follow by customer.

638
02:34:33,740 --> 02:34:38,700
It's trying to be first in the queue, but as usual, Councilor Lee would give hand,

639
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:40,400
always in February, the way you can ever be.

640
02:34:43,540 --> 02:34:47,100
And I wanted to elaborate on my previous questions that I put to the administration,

641
02:34:47,360 --> 02:34:51,240
and I just wanted to say that, you know, with all these changes that are being addressed,

642
02:34:52,340 --> 02:34:54,800
with not having a kind of experience within, we've

643
02:35:08,970 --> 02:35:09,890
got to get in your comment,

644
02:35:11,460 --> 02:35:12,360
to just where

645
02:35:14,380 --> 02:35:18,000
I looked at, I should have addressed the

646
02:35:20,850 --> 02:35:21,610
library thing,

647
02:35:30,060 --> 02:35:30,140
very

648
02:35:30,140 --> 02:35:30,400
guy.

649
02:35:36,020 --> 02:35:36,520
Thank you.

650
02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:40,540
Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor.

651
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:45,500
And I just want to say just very briefly to open that.

652
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:50,280
One pleasure is been to Welcome Counselors, like Counselor Bond stable, and I mean members

653
02:35:50,280 --> 02:35:56,140
who bring just a terrific vitality and fresh perspective.

654
02:35:56,960 --> 02:36:00,300
So thank you very much for all of you bring so far.

655
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:07,060
I'm just going to highlight very quickly a few points that I flagged from this report.

656
02:36:07,180 --> 02:36:08,740
The first one is consent agenda.

657
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:10,440
I strongly support.

658
02:36:11,060 --> 02:36:15,040
I think this is a terrific addition to our processes.

659
02:36:15,380 --> 02:36:17,700
And thank you to the name for bringing that forward.

660
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:19,600
Sometimes we have to sever things.

661
02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:23,600
Otherwise we go along and discuss it without being in a consent.

662
02:36:24,660 --> 02:36:25,900
But that's okay. That's an option.

663
02:36:25,900 --> 02:36:29,760
And secondly, a general alignment with Robert who is a boarder.

664
02:36:29,900 --> 02:36:33,800
So those points of privilege, information, the table and concept.

665
02:36:34,620 --> 02:36:39,460
I will support all of them, I think, just so that we can have that alignment with Robert's

666
02:36:39,460 --> 02:36:39,680
rules.

667
02:36:40,100 --> 02:36:45,840
We have to just refrain our thinking of how we call something, you know, but I'm fine with

668
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:46,300
that.

669
02:36:46,520 --> 02:36:52,080
In terms of motion types, I was really grateful to administration for your responses to my

670
02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:55,880
questions around that, because first of all, you know,

671
02:36:55,880 --> 02:37:00,960
knowing that there are 86 and narrowing it down to 10, I think is terrific. The 10 that

672
02:37:00,960 --> 02:37:07,000
are most applicable to the kind of work that council typically does. So, you know, most

673
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:14,540
things that we want to bring forward will be covered with in those 10's is the option to suspend

674
02:37:14,540 --> 02:37:20,380
it with the will of council. So if you have supportive your council mates, you can suspend the rules

675
02:37:20,380 --> 02:37:26,040
and add, you know, council works and you can add a motion to present if you have the support of

676
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:28,660
So I think I could live with that.

677
02:37:28,660 --> 02:37:29,320
A gender review?

678
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:54,460
I love that it will be an open and transparent for the public if they want to hop on. Secondly, that it will be a counselor, the room identified that it will. I'm hoping that there will be a long-term flagging for our community. I often get, in fact, they got a call on the weekend from a gentleman, wondering when the public hearing for the permanent shelter site will be coming.

679
02:37:54,460 --> 02:38:01,540
So, for the public to have a acute ahead of time to have a general idea of when something

680
02:38:01,540 --> 02:38:04,460
might be coming forward so they don't miss it.

681
02:38:05,320 --> 02:38:11,060
I will address hybrid meetings strongly support if we can make it happen going forward

682
02:38:11,060 --> 02:38:18,560
to continue a virtual approach when needed when you're either sick, when you're on vacation

683
02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:28,020
You're just, you're just, schedules just can't permit, but you can come in remotely and I'm hoping that administration can make that happen with a hybrid model.

684
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:30,480
Points of interest, I can go either way.

685
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:33,420
I think they're, you know, they're nice to have.

686
02:38:33,760 --> 02:38:38,720
If we really are focusing on efficiency, you know, I could live without them as well.

687
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:44,800
And then off all closed accounts of speaking time, and I really appreciate the work I've been asked on for the entire procedure by all,

688
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:49,200
In particular, I think this is probably the single most significant

689
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:55,160
way for us or item to amend that will have the most impact

690
02:38:55,160 --> 02:39:00,140
in terms of bringing efficiency, transparency for our public

691
02:39:00,140 --> 02:39:03,040
and predictability to our council meetings.

692
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:06,620
Both in terms of how much time counts and takes,

693
02:39:06,800 --> 02:39:07,900
I think that's the thing the most,

694
02:39:08,200 --> 02:39:10,720
but also in terms of public caring for our public,

695
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:13,960
reducing it down to five, and just having that alignment,

696
02:39:13,960 --> 02:39:17,740
MPC currently allows five municipal planning commission,

697
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:22,080
allows members to survey the public to speak for five minutes.

698
02:39:22,640 --> 02:39:24,360
So I think it's a nice alignment.

699
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:31,280
And I would likely support going down to five on sort of two conditions.

700
02:39:31,540 --> 02:39:36,380
One is that time for questions is not included in your five minutes.

701
02:39:36,380 --> 02:39:55,680
And secondly, that the time utilized for either making or speaking to an empty motions on a motion, I'm not included in the five minutes, so that the five minutes is for the main motion comments and you can extend it to five at the world council.

702
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:59,580
So those are my comments. Thank you very much, and I'll take this to me.

703
02:40:00,740 --> 02:40:01,400
Thank you. Thank you very much.

704
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:10,700
Thank you, Mayor, and I'll keep my camera off because I'm continue to spool on there.

705
02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:16,960
First of all, thank you, Council colleagues for the interest and desire to amend our procedure by

706
02:40:16,960 --> 02:40:21,080
line, of course, to the clerks work before us today.

707
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:30,280
I also always believe that it's good to refresh what we're doing, but I do have some concerns with some of the issues before us.

708
02:40:30,280 --> 02:40:35,060
And my silence on the other matters means I support them.

709
02:40:35,460 --> 02:40:37,120
The first one is this speaking time.

710
02:40:37,660 --> 02:40:41,380
You know, expediency for me is not the goal when we listen to others.

711
02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:47,100
And some people take longer to reflect and to get their message out.

712
02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:51,820
So I personally, whether you use it up to 10 minutes or not,

713
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:57,440
I'm personally fine with retaining the time that we have in the current by law.

714
02:40:57,440 --> 02:41:05,840
I think it's important that we listen and people want to use the time they can and if not, they don't have to.

715
02:41:06,500 --> 02:41:09,280
And the same comment goes with the points of interest.

716
02:41:10,620 --> 02:41:20,740
The points of interest I think are sometimes interesting, not only for myself, to when we were out in the community to hear from other colleague counselors, but for the public to hear from us.

717
02:41:20,740 --> 02:41:29,300
And I'll remind us again that not everyone is on social media, and again, we may use or not use the points of interest.

718
02:41:29,460 --> 02:41:34,400
We may want to take it away in the future, but for this point in time I'm not supporting that.

719
02:41:35,180 --> 02:41:38,940
And certainly I do support the work of the Agenda Review Committee.

720
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:49,060
I'll just say that I think to support Council's work process, to that that seems to move things along for clarity to the public for their input.

721
02:41:49,060 --> 02:41:52,500
I think is very important as is the transparency

722
02:41:52,500 --> 02:41:54,940
to the public hearing process.

723
02:41:56,040 --> 02:41:59,040
So those are my comments, and I'll just make this comment

724
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:01,180
in terms of Parliament or procedure.

725
02:42:01,740 --> 02:42:04,720
You know, I spent a lifetime in my in-labour movement

726
02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:06,540
of using Parliament or procedure.

727
02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:10,980
And I certainly am in favor of making it easier

728
02:42:10,980 --> 02:42:13,660
and use your family, but not at the expense

729
02:42:13,660 --> 02:42:16,120
of dumbing it down, because when you do that,

730
02:42:16,120 --> 02:42:23,860
it can cause the occasional meeting, if not used accurately and correctly, some chaos and concerns.

731
02:42:24,160 --> 02:42:29,480
So I think we just have to be wise to that and recognize the reasons for parliamentary

732
02:42:29,480 --> 02:42:30,120
procedure.

733
02:42:30,720 --> 02:42:34,300
And with the changes in parliamentary procedure, there are also learning from those.

734
02:42:34,520 --> 02:42:41,120
So we just have to be cautious of that and not go into think that this will be our wonderful

735
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:49,360
new rules because there are concerns, of course, when people use it to do their advantage,

736
02:42:49,780 --> 02:42:51,200
I'm not for the purpose of the bad.

737
02:42:51,500 --> 02:42:51,860
Better good.

738
02:42:52,180 --> 02:42:52,780
Thank you.

739
02:42:55,070 --> 02:42:55,810
Thank you, Councillor.

740
02:42:55,930 --> 02:42:57,330
I have Councillor Dow.

741
02:42:57,550 --> 02:42:59,210
Thank you, Councillor Jones.

742
02:43:01,290 --> 02:43:03,690
Well, thank you very much, Mayor Johnson.

743
02:43:05,390 --> 02:43:09,030
I think I've reflected already a lot of what I'm have to say.

744
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:12,050
But one, I do like the points of interest.

745
02:43:12,050 --> 02:43:20,230
I, it is a communication tool. It doesn't take long, but it also helps send the message to the community that

746
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:27,990
Council is out and about and working with the constituents. And I think that's important part of our roles in a

747
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:37,990
some way. I really, when I read the agenda over the weekend, I really was concerned about

748
02:43:37,990 --> 02:43:50,390
this concept of questions and how we handle those. I can see how it could become an issue

749
02:43:50,390 --> 02:43:58,530
if there were huge detailed questions continuously coming in, but I think one of our roles

750
02:43:58,530 --> 02:44:06,510
too is to be a communication link to the public, and one of those communication things

751
02:44:06,510 --> 02:44:15,630
are making informed questions and also giving full answers, and I really am concerned about

752
02:44:15,630 --> 02:44:22,750
if we look like we're starting to put controls on that and particularly putting that might

753
02:44:22,750 --> 02:44:28,110
come up in the laser that and I understand that the question might come up and it said

754
02:44:28,110 --> 02:44:34,970
right up front look this is just going to take a very long time to answer. But that I think

755
02:44:34,970 --> 02:44:44,810
is one of the critical roles to a council and I would be very concerned if that on the speaking

756
02:44:44,810 --> 02:44:51,790
Sometimes, all that, I'm one of the ones who tends to go on and on and on and having a control

757
02:44:51,790 --> 02:44:55,310
on it is not a big concern for me.

758
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:59,410
Usually, you fill the time that's available, they always see a bureaucrat.

759
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:09,460
Give them a bigger briefcase and he'll fill it. And I'm a good example of that. I don't really mind the

760
02:45:09,460 --> 02:45:20,640
the restraints on time and that on the recesses and timing. That's good, but I mean, we already had an example here this morning

761
02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:29,000
where we had two unexpected recesses. And we have to approach that with the understanding that recesses

762
02:45:30,060 --> 02:45:36,740
are not always planted and they're also speaking very selfishly here. I certainly have

763
02:45:36,740 --> 02:45:41,760
found this that come into my new term when you have some health issues that things

764
02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:47,700
can come up sometimes when you need to expect it and I know that there may well be a time

765
02:45:47,700 --> 02:45:53,140
in the next while that some of the meetings I'll even if we're back in person I may have

766
02:45:53,140 --> 02:45:58,440
asked for permission to come in virtually just because of what I may but to do what I'm

767
02:45:58,440 --> 02:46:05,840
to do. So with that, that's enough I guess for now. You can come to your draw. I have

768
02:46:05,840 --> 02:46:12,920
for a counselor, Dr. Chris. You have followed by counselor work. Thank you very much. I too would

769
02:46:12,920 --> 02:46:19,120
like to add my thanks for this good work. It's in my mind not most exciting work that you get to do,

770
02:46:19,160 --> 02:46:24,560
but it's really important for the way that counselor works together. So I appreciate the expertise

771
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:26,720
and the work that's gone into it.

772
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:33,540
So we need the procedure by law is a tool that facilitates and claims the work of council.

773
02:46:34,740 --> 02:46:40,900
And it gives us all understanding of how we will work and how we will approach the subject matter before us.

774
02:46:41,180 --> 02:46:42,620
So I think it's very important.

775
02:46:43,640 --> 02:46:48,300
And I hear Councillor White's maybe a little bit of hesitation on it.

776
02:46:48,340 --> 02:46:52,840
It can't be so restrictive that we can't do our good work.

777
02:46:52,840 --> 02:46:59,220
It shouldn't be a control mechanism necessarily, and so I agree with that caution.

778
02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:06,020
I really like the idea of having the agenda review committee back, and I like the fact

779
02:47:06,020 --> 02:47:08,140
that we're looking at making it even more transparent.

780
02:47:08,360 --> 02:47:13,940
I think it's an important piece to be involved in as a council member if you're the

781
02:47:13,940 --> 02:47:31,280
Deputy Mayor. I, of course, support having recesses and some health rates. One of the things I discovered after I was off council in 2013 was how little I had moved in a lot of

782
02:47:31,280 --> 02:47:43,080
lot of long meetings and how unhealthy that was. So I think it's important for all of our staff and for, you know,

783
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:51,100
for hours waiting and waiting and waiting and I question a ability to make good decisions

784
02:47:51,100 --> 02:47:57,440
and have fit in fiber debate when you get a little tighter than how to take in those

785
02:47:57,440 --> 02:48:08,740
proper breaks along the way. As far as when information goes, I've explained on it, I think it's

786
02:48:08,740 --> 02:48:16,660
important to consider the purpose of adding the point of information and what council hopes to get out of it or hopes to provide for the community.

787
02:48:17,280 --> 02:48:22,740
Through it, at times in the past and I'm going way back a few week quite a few years.

788
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:28,720
It would seem like a bit of a laundry list of the things people had gone to and attended and it was like, well,

789
02:48:28,940 --> 02:48:35,920
you know, here's how busy I was and you know, for whatever reason the council decide you didn't have five things to report on.

790
02:48:35,920 --> 02:48:39,000
So I don't want it to be used that way.

791
02:48:39,140 --> 02:48:41,280
I think sometimes there probably are a few things

792
02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:42,000
that are important.

793
02:48:43,700 --> 02:48:47,140
So I'm not going to be flying on how that works

794
02:48:47,140 --> 02:48:50,100
and what it looks like to be meaningful

795
02:48:50,100 --> 02:48:51,900
for all the counseling and for the community.

796
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:54,740
And maybe we are big enough that we can let it go.

797
02:48:54,800 --> 02:48:55,320
I don't know.

798
02:48:56,120 --> 02:48:57,400
So I'll leave my comments at that,

799
02:48:57,400 --> 02:49:00,040
but I do say thank you very much for this important work.

800
02:49:01,320 --> 02:49:04,260
Thank you, Councillor Cousin, a little bit

801
02:49:04,260 --> 02:49:14,280
to bear and just some bonds to cost their bonds to the old about my investment would be not

802
02:49:14,280 --> 02:49:20,270
to be in too much of a very, too, learn experience, counselors, habits, cause you're in

803
02:49:20,270 --> 02:49:21,070
good place.

804
02:49:21,370 --> 02:49:24,110
And I'm going to give a place where we don't know what we can't give a

805
02:49:27,340 --> 02:49:27,920
question place.

806
02:49:28,240 --> 02:49:29,640
It's a question place to be, actually.

807
02:49:30,080 --> 02:49:37,400
So, to those who are working on this lot, I have two important things from my perspective

808
02:49:37,400 --> 02:49:38,300
maybe through.

809
02:49:38,300 --> 02:49:45,360
The first one would be, I'm ready to be looking for a mechanism for each hurdle, or, or,

810
02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:53,280
I didn't fall in line with all other counselors where we can share information that we're hearing on the street, or from people,

811
02:49:53,700 --> 02:49:59,180
maybe in battles in some ideas around. I don't know if that's a community of the whole. I don't know if that's a government's in policy,

812
02:49:59,940 --> 02:50:06,720
I've community of some structure, but that's what I would ask you to look for, because I think it's really important.

813
02:50:06,720 --> 02:50:13,380
I think he can make better decisions if he has some better mechanisms for him in formal

814
02:50:13,380 --> 02:50:13,840
sharing.

815
02:50:14,080 --> 02:50:15,540
So that would be my first thing.

816
02:50:16,020 --> 02:50:19,820
My second one would be to make sure it's really clear in terms of electronic meetings

817
02:50:19,820 --> 02:50:22,700
or hybrid meetings that there's

818
02:50:24,750 --> 02:50:26,910
a problem structure around that.

819
02:50:28,210 --> 02:50:36,550
And my third point would be to kind of serve office debt in terms of making sure we don't

820
02:50:36,550 --> 02:50:40,190
restrict ourselves too much from getting the information that we have.

821
02:50:40,190 --> 02:50:42,650
actually need that helps us make,

822
02:50:45,530 --> 02:50:46,250
which is echoed.

823
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:49,860
So if we can hear that, that's it for me.

824
02:50:50,740 --> 02:50:53,920
Thank you very much, Councilor Verkstein, Councilor Boone.

825
02:50:56,330 --> 02:50:58,290
Thank very much, I agree with many of the points

826
02:50:58,290 --> 02:51:00,570
that have been expressed to just a couple of things.

827
02:51:00,870 --> 02:51:02,490
I think there's value in us in evaluating

828
02:51:02,490 --> 02:51:05,490
our meetings on a periodic basis since part of the process

829
02:51:05,490 --> 02:51:08,170
of understanding where we are, so I think oftentimes

830
02:51:08,170 --> 02:51:10,670
for a good meeting management, having that opportunity

831
02:51:10,670 --> 02:51:14,430
to say this is where we are being effective in challenge ourselves

832
02:51:14,430 --> 02:51:15,310
to do that.

833
02:51:15,310 --> 02:51:23,350
And with regards to trying to speak on the arts surprising, I think it's important that we have that opportunity and think our public sees that as our role.

834
02:51:23,550 --> 02:51:27,930
Getting answers to those questions and truly understanding the nature of the decisions that are making.

835
02:51:28,530 --> 02:51:33,950
And I would like a little comment from Councillor Dirps and in regards to some of those important meetings.

836
02:51:34,470 --> 02:51:40,770
Sometimes I think a good fireside child where we know what to, what to, what to hear from the ground.

837
02:51:40,770 --> 02:51:46,070
And I think there's people realize that we are bringing those perspectives, and let's be honest.

838
02:51:46,210 --> 02:51:48,310
We have had a lot of perspectives thrown at us.

839
02:51:48,510 --> 02:51:50,490
I think that allows us to make better decisions.

840
02:51:51,590 --> 02:51:55,010
So I would support some of those important mechanisms fully recognizing.

841
02:51:55,990 --> 02:51:58,210
We have to be very careful as to where decisions are.

842
02:51:58,990 --> 02:52:02,650
But we've got some good minds in our community that want those voices hurting.

843
02:52:02,810 --> 02:52:05,990
It's important that we have that considerations we go forward.

844
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:11,090
So thank you very much in the administration and a good job here and I think it's going to make

845
02:52:11,090 --> 02:52:11,870
more and more effective.

846
02:52:14,880 --> 02:52:16,040
Thank you, Councilor Bruno.

847
02:52:17,260 --> 02:52:18,180
Councilor, thank you.

848
02:52:18,280 --> 02:52:24,000
Thank you so much again for the questions and the feedback that we just experienced as

849
02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:25,080
a group.

850
02:52:26,280 --> 02:52:29,280
Certainly you want to have my own thanks since you're appreciation.

851
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:40,780
In addition to everyone involved in this, you know, certainly GM Perkins and in a city park,

852
02:52:42,880 --> 02:52:44,000
inter-manage, or low-breaking.

853
02:52:44,660 --> 02:52:52,580
In particular, it's and it's so much work. One of the privileges I have is you may or may are interacting with these folks daily.

854
02:52:52,580 --> 02:52:58,600
Daily, maybe some of them don't wish that it was daily, but anyway, I get an opportunity

855
02:52:58,600 --> 02:53:05,960
to interact with them daily and the extent of support, and the heart's direct

856
02:53:05,960 --> 02:53:10,040
towards being the best we can be, being the best city we can be.

857
02:53:10,500 --> 02:53:18,420
This is extraordinary, it really is extraordinary how our administration prepares us for the

858
02:53:18,420 --> 02:53:18,820
decisions.

859
02:53:18,820 --> 02:53:22,920
that the tough decisions, you know, that we made.

860
02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:26,820
So tremendous appreciation from that perspective.

861
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:29,740
Council ofoperability, you made a great point

862
02:53:29,740 --> 02:53:33,620
when you said, you know, the perspective of some of the veterans

863
02:53:33,620 --> 02:53:38,300
and certainly inferred from them today and I'll add my own voice

864
02:53:38,300 --> 02:53:43,600
to that a couple of observations on the agenda review committee

865
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:49,980
is this is going to be a very, I will

866
02:53:49,980 --> 02:54:03,280
I would say the word transformative tried not to use it too much today, given the business in front of us, but in a certain exchange responsibility, as it relates to how and why I didn't come forward to agenda.

867
02:54:04,120 --> 02:54:16,200
And how they look, from the administrative and the governance spaces, which the public will be able to get a look for the first time.

868
02:54:16,200 --> 02:54:22,780
And so that is a foundational change in how we're,

869
02:54:22,780 --> 02:54:24,120
the way we're procedible.

870
02:54:26,120 --> 02:54:30,460
The other observation I'd have is this is really

871
02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:35,580
elevates the preparation of what it comes to in these.

872
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:39,320
And I think we all are prepared, it's training well.

873
02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:43,820
But this refined preparation to an other degree

874
02:54:43,820 --> 02:54:50,180
in where you're speaking times are now maximized for efficiencies or presuming that's where we're going.

875
02:54:51,200 --> 02:54:55,620
In our ability to be able to distill a report,

876
02:54:55,980 --> 02:55:04,040
be the send a question ahead of time, whatever that takes will be given to a public situation.

877
02:55:04,660 --> 02:55:06,220
So I think that's very, very positive.

878
02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:13,600
I will say as well, and this is just, you know, I think for information only the public may not be

879
02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:18,560
that as mayor and councilor, as we meet once in a month,

880
02:55:19,120 --> 02:55:21,460
councilor Ruma called it a fire side chat.

881
02:55:21,640 --> 02:55:23,960
I'm glad you didn't say think to the fire chat.

882
02:55:24,160 --> 02:55:26,420
Some days it feels like that when I'm your mayor.

883
02:55:27,280 --> 02:55:31,140
However, it is a fire side chat we do.

884
02:55:31,380 --> 02:55:34,900
Have that opportunity for an hour and a month to meet

885
02:55:34,900 --> 02:55:39,080
to talk to balance ideas to think about things.

886
02:55:39,080 --> 02:55:41,000
I move things onto administration.

887
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:57,340
We may move things on to a certain committee and working on whatever that looks like and that's I think a good exchange of information as well in terms of how we're you know, functioning as a council.

888
02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:04,080
So, I would say Ms. Wadwell, you know, I think, also, I want to start

889
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:07,260
in the meeting with the field. You're doing six questions. I think you're doing

890
02:56:07,260 --> 02:56:10,700
seven fill today with lots of good feedback.

891
02:56:11,740 --> 02:56:16,260
And we look forward, you know, to looking at your first reading, when it comes to

892
02:56:16,260 --> 02:56:21,140
counsel, you know, in a few weeks time and seeing that.

893
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:26,140
So, counsel, that concludes that particular, we don't have to make an entire

894
02:56:26,140 --> 02:56:34,360
resolution that concludes that item. And I would now recommend we have a little

895
02:56:35,060 --> 02:56:39,420
announcement break to the one of luck that would give us about a half an hour

896
02:56:39,420 --> 02:56:44,620
for that. And that being the case, let us recess the one and we'll see you

897
03:31:11,980 --> 03:31:24,040
Our council to the afternoon, we will pick it up on item 4.1, which is on page 9 of our agenda today, which is our consent calendar.

898
03:31:25,420 --> 03:31:31,980
Council, a lot of consent calendar, you'll notice that there are two resolutions, the first,

899
03:31:31,980 --> 03:31:40,200
concerning minutes and two items to information items, and the second, which would be the first

900
03:31:40,200 --> 03:31:47,080
reading of three bylaws which will return, as you can see here at being here in the for

901
03:31:47,080 --> 03:31:54,500
second and third meetings to counsel at future dates. So, I trust we've all done an opportunity

902
03:31:54,500 --> 03:32:01,680
to read the consent calendar and end the, so the first resolution I'll call, if you could read

903
03:32:01,680 --> 03:32:06,220
that City Clerk will, and I have a lot of that on the move.

904
03:32:06,740 --> 03:32:08,820
I have Councillor Marks to vote.

905
03:32:09,140 --> 03:32:11,720
Second, will they cancel their lunches?

906
03:32:12,380 --> 03:32:12,940
The council.

907
03:32:13,880 --> 03:32:14,160
The council.

908
03:32:14,160 --> 03:32:14,380
The council.

909
03:32:14,380 --> 03:32:14,900
Result the council.

910
03:32:15,140 --> 03:32:18,860
The city of Red deer having considered the consent calendar from legal and legislative services.

911
03:32:19,440 --> 03:32:21,640
Hereby approves the following minutes and reports.

912
03:32:22,520 --> 03:32:26,880
Confirmation of the January 31st, 2022 regular council meeting minutes.

913
03:32:27,820 --> 03:32:32,880
Next, Generation 911 funding and Free Parking Meterbeg program.

914
03:32:36,650 --> 03:32:41,670
Classical, are there any questions or comments before we get the question?

915
03:32:45,310 --> 03:32:47,090
Thank you, Madam Minister Mayer.

916
03:32:47,290 --> 03:32:51,370
Could you just help me understand why my post is, I'll have it somewhere.

917
03:32:52,950 --> 03:32:54,550
Just a confirmation.

918
03:32:54,970 --> 03:33:03,070
If we want to ask questions or have any kind of discussion around any, do we have to

919
03:33:03,070 --> 03:33:11,630
At the risk of no one else, sorry, I do have a question about 9 next generation 911 and the free parking meter bag, please.

920
03:33:20,300 --> 03:33:27,440
Okay, the comments or questions on those two items, and then I'll call for motion in the comments.

921
03:33:31,350 --> 03:33:33,570
So we have moved by Council of Wants,

922
03:33:33,610 --> 03:33:35,650
for the second of their Council of Wantses.

923
03:33:36,490 --> 03:33:39,270
They had the confirmation of the regular minutes being accepted,

924
03:33:39,450 --> 03:33:41,750
or the remaining Council of Wantses of Wantses.

925
03:33:43,870 --> 03:33:46,680
You're being gone for those minutes or accepted.

926
03:33:47,230 --> 03:33:47,890
Thank you, Council.

927
03:33:48,410 --> 03:33:50,470
So Council, I will go to Council Hayen.

928
03:33:50,670 --> 03:33:52,370
She had questions on these two items.

929
03:33:52,950 --> 03:33:54,430
So you could need a door Council Hayen.

930
03:33:54,670 --> 03:33:55,530
This question is going to go ahead.

931
03:34:00,290 --> 03:34:00,650
Excuse me.

932
03:34:01,050 --> 03:34:02,730
And I am just going to go.

933
03:34:02,730 --> 03:34:04,330
Let me turn on the right page.

934
03:34:05,130 --> 03:34:09,310
So on the first item, which is the 9.1,

935
03:34:12,420 --> 03:34:13,280
one really question.

936
03:34:13,540 --> 03:34:14,560
I believe there's just one.

937
03:34:14,780 --> 03:34:16,240
Yeah, it's on page 30.

938
03:34:17,000 --> 03:34:18,700
Well, it relates to the report.

939
03:34:19,980 --> 03:34:27,660
But is will the next generation 9.1 technology that are required mandated from the CRTC

940
03:34:27,660 --> 03:34:33,020
would have the capacity or the capability to triangulate a person's location

941
03:34:33,020 --> 03:34:40,300
cell phone call. So I know that currently I think we can do generally the general area

942
03:34:40,300 --> 03:34:47,660
by triangulation, but is this technology more advanced now that will be required to specifically

943
03:34:47,660 --> 03:34:50,520
identify a person's location on a cell phone call?

944
03:35:01,540 --> 03:35:04,920
Happy to do so. There.

945
03:35:06,930 --> 03:35:11,250
That's why I'm the goal of next generation. I run one.

946
03:35:16,410 --> 03:35:17,110
I'm not

947
03:35:17,110 --> 03:35:25,870
will be much better ways to locate callers and buy a phone or other means, perhaps you know

948
03:35:25,870 --> 03:35:30,590
that protocol based. So, if somebody doesn't even have cellular data, perhaps they may

949
03:35:30,590 --> 03:35:36,470
call on their cell phone through Wi-Fi will be able to locate their location through that.

950
03:35:36,610 --> 03:35:40,770
So, that is the intent to one of the primary purposes of the next generation 911 is better

951
03:35:40,770 --> 03:35:41,730
location accuracy.

952
03:35:43,860 --> 03:35:48,060
Thank you very much. That is my only question on that one. Thank you.

953
03:35:48,060 --> 03:35:50,280
I'll also have any other questions on the Senate.

954
03:35:52,520 --> 03:35:57,660
There are no other questions on the Senate, I would leave.

955
03:35:57,660 --> 03:36:03,640
I would leave for all proposed councilor high-invoting and councilor may, second day, the

956
03:36:03,640 --> 03:36:06,300
resolution which is on page 29.

957
03:36:06,600 --> 03:36:10,840
And I wonder is there's what I want to repeat that resolution in the Councilor?

958
03:36:19,930 --> 03:36:23,510
Resolve the council of the city of Red Dear having considered the report from the inspections

959
03:36:23,510 --> 03:36:25,630
and licensing department of my apologies.

960
03:36:36,160 --> 03:36:40,280
Result the Council of the City of Redder having considered the report from Redder emergency

961
03:36:40,280 --> 03:36:47,580
services dated February 14, 2022, re-next generation 911 funding, hereby approves the

962
03:36:47,580 --> 03:36:54,640
additional grant funding, $1.29 million from 2022 to the current capital projects for

963
03:36:54,640 --> 03:36:58,180
the next generation 911 telephone system and related infrastructure.

964
03:37:06,710 --> 03:37:07,450
Thank

965
03:37:09,560 --> 03:37:09,560
you, sir.

966
03:37:09,560 --> 03:37:15,660
Thank you very much Mr. Mayor and I did want to sever this just because I wanted to highlight I wasn't myself sure of this answer

967
03:37:15,660 --> 03:37:24,700
And I wanted to highlight for public because this has been an area of you know some concern and hopeful anticipation in terms of the technology kind of catching up with

968
03:37:25,400 --> 03:37:29,400
You know with the events and and and disasters or

969
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:59,960
On the ground when emergencies happen. So, I was so grateful to hear from our active chief current, that this is precisely the direction that this technology is going both from and I alone something today, reading this report that even if you don't have data that it sort of, you know,

970
03:37:59,960 --> 03:38:06,840
in terms of location, what a tremendous advancement in addressing emergencies, and I just want

971
03:38:06,840 --> 03:38:14,680
to thank our provincial college counterparts just briefly for this increased funding to accommodate

972
03:38:14,680 --> 03:38:19,260
this so that it doesn't have, we don't have, it's not downloaded to municipalities such a

973
03:38:19,260 --> 03:38:25,940
critical requirement from the CRTC. So thank you very much and I will of course be supporting it.

974
03:38:29,340 --> 03:38:29,940
Thank

975
03:38:35,860 --> 03:38:39,000
you, Mayor Jones, and I, too, will be supporting the initiative.

976
03:38:39,500 --> 03:38:46,720
And just for the theme public and immediately as information, this is also an upgrade

977
03:38:46,720 --> 03:38:52,520
to a program for an infrastructure that has been a place for 30-plus years.

978
03:38:53,000 --> 03:39:01,240
So I do want to put that in context to recognize that this is an investment over a long

979
03:39:01,240 --> 03:39:07,360
period of time, and we collect a lot of these revenues from the 911 system itself.

980
03:39:07,720 --> 03:39:08,480
So thank you.

981
03:39:10,190 --> 03:39:11,330
Thank you, Councillor Lee.

982
03:39:12,850 --> 03:39:14,510
Also, let's see further comments.

983
03:39:15,030 --> 03:39:15,630
I'll call the questions.

984
03:39:15,910 --> 03:39:18,790
Or there are any concerns opposed to this item.

985
03:39:21,550 --> 03:39:23,010
You're being non-it, carries unanimously.

986
03:39:23,190 --> 03:39:23,950
Thank you, Council.

987
03:39:24,790 --> 03:39:28,250
Moving out to the fee parking need a bad program.

988
03:39:28,530 --> 03:39:29,390
Councillor Heinle.

989
03:39:29,850 --> 03:39:32,410
If you wish to have questions on this as well.

990
03:39:32,410 --> 03:39:36,410
So I do have one question and potentially an amendment based on the response.

991
03:39:36,850 --> 03:39:39,270
So my one question here is the last of the city.

992
03:39:39,810 --> 03:39:44,410
I was using pre-COVID 2019 parking revenue,

993
03:39:45,390 --> 03:39:49,730
I'm asked to estimate the potential loss of parking revenue

994
03:39:49,730 --> 03:39:51,790
that we would incur this year.

995
03:39:52,250 --> 03:39:54,350
They came up with $40,000 for last year.

996
03:39:54,510 --> 03:39:58,630
And this year is at 103,000 in terms of lost revenue.

997
03:39:58,630 --> 03:40:09,110
Just comment on why the job, if in 2019 pre-COVID, the parking loss parking revenue was estimated

998
03:40:09,110 --> 03:40:18,170
at $40 or was at $40,000, then we used that for 2021, while we now jump in 223 for 222.

999
03:40:22,630 --> 03:40:32,650
Through Mayor Johnson to Councilor Hymn, we did use information from 2021 in

1000
03:40:32,650 --> 03:40:35,990
developing what the loss of revenue looks like.

1001
03:40:36,510 --> 03:40:42,170
The also the assumptions need to anticipate that there will be some return to

1002
03:40:42,170 --> 03:40:47,650
pre-COVID type financials sometime around the fall.

1003
03:40:48,490 --> 03:40:53,090
So you'll recall the previous approval only included an approval for six months

1004
03:40:53,090 --> 03:41:00,830
timeframe. This does, this is anticipated for one year timeframe until the end of 2022.

1005
03:41:06,860 --> 03:41:13,920
So, essentially, we're doubling from the six months to the one year we'd bring us to 80,000 correct.

1006
03:41:13,920 --> 03:41:27,600
And then we're set additional 30 from 80 to 103 I think it is 103, the additional 23,000.

1007
03:41:28,600 --> 03:41:37,960
Through Mayor Johnson to counter him, we did include a little bit extra in regards to the funding of the banks.

1008
03:41:37,960 --> 03:41:48,280
So, you will have noticed that the bags did not, they looked kind of shabby after the winter and the fall months.

1009
03:41:48,880 --> 03:41:58,800
And so, we have included a higher budget amount for either two bags if required or we are looking at more of a substantial material.

1010
03:41:58,800 --> 03:42:07,900
In regards to the difference between the financials, I'm not sure why the difference from 2020-2021 to this year.

1011
03:42:08,340 --> 03:42:13,980
However, I can, I was involved in directly preparing the financials for this request.

1012
03:42:14,700 --> 03:42:25,880
And it does take into consideration all of the usage data from last year's timeframe, as well as the assumption of returning to pre-COVID financial usage in September.

1013
03:42:27,240 --> 03:42:37,960
And that's my point and I don't want to believe it because it's a difference of 23,000 and it doesn't account for that's an additional 10,000 for the bags to bring it up to 113,000.

1014
03:42:37,960 --> 03:42:50,760
We were at an $80,000 last revenue estimate based on 2019 numbers, so are we basing in 2021?

1015
03:42:51,380 --> 03:42:59,260
Are we counting those three parking spots that we assigned and that accounts for the discrepancy of $23,000?

1016
03:42:59,440 --> 03:43:01,100
I'm just not clear on this.

1017
03:43:02,960 --> 03:43:10,800
Sorry, can you ask the last portion are we including the free parking souls as part of I just didn't understand

1018
03:43:10,800 --> 03:43:16,920
I didn't ask it well, so I will be free. So if we're basing based on

1019
03:43:16,920 --> 03:43:18,200
2021

1020
03:43:18,880 --> 03:43:23,420
In 2021 we had the free parking program in

1021
03:43:23,420 --> 03:43:30,820
to attack, so are we using potential lost revenue from those free parking?

1022
03:43:31,020 --> 03:43:39,820
Do you want to get because otherwise, in 2019, it would only be $80,000 lost revenue, and now

1023
03:43:39,820 --> 03:43:45,600
we're doing $103,000, so is it that that many more people are coming to the downtown because

1024
03:43:45,600 --> 03:43:52,920
for parking or other reasons why I'm increasing by 23,000?

1025
03:43:53,420 --> 03:43:58,900
Through a Mayor Johnson to Councilor Ham, what I will say is I do believe that we have better

1026
03:43:58,900 --> 03:44:05,300
data this year. It was a struggle last year to attempt to make estimations on the information

1027
03:44:05,300 --> 03:44:12,440
that was provided as part of that request because we remid your during COVID. So the information

1028
03:44:12,440 --> 03:44:20,360
that that was relied on for that request was not as I would say concrete as the information

1029
03:44:20,360 --> 03:44:25,180
that was provided as part of the request that's before you today. Other than that, I can't

1030
03:44:25,180 --> 03:44:28,300
speak to the difference of the transparency between the two.

1031
03:44:29,620 --> 03:44:34,040
Okay, that is my only question. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1032
03:44:35,460 --> 03:44:40,920
Thank you, Professor. Professor Watches. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the report.

1033
03:44:40,920 --> 03:44:49,920
I have two questions. The first one is, can you just verify Mr. Lord, what is the actual cost of parking for an individual?

1034
03:44:50,360 --> 03:44:55,260
I want to conversation recently about the cost of parking, so I just want to confirm that.

1035
03:44:55,420 --> 03:44:59,420
So for instance, what you get for 15 minutes, what do you get for an hour and an hour and an hour?

1036
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:03,940
How much is the cost? That's my first question, thank you.

1037
03:45:04,460 --> 03:45:15,600
Through Mayor Johnson to Councillor Wainches, that's a rather complicated question in that there are several options available to an individual who wishes to support downtown.

1038
03:45:16,440 --> 03:45:28,400
So, depending on the area where the street, we do provide variances as far as time limits. They vary from 30 minute meters all the way up to four hour, eight hour meters.

1039
03:45:28,400 --> 03:45:36,880
We also have variations as far as what the charge at that individual meter is, as well as our

1040
03:45:36,880 --> 03:45:38,000
Austrian parking lots.

1041
03:45:38,620 --> 03:45:46,040
And so depending on whether the individual is wanting to maybe pay a higher premium, but

1042
03:45:46,040 --> 03:45:51,240
they don't have to walk as far or maybe they're willing to walk further and they pay a

1043
03:45:51,240 --> 03:45:51,740
lower amount.

1044
03:45:52,040 --> 03:45:53,140
It's really dependent.

1045
03:45:53,140 --> 03:45:58,720
And so we use a number of those different variables to control the usage level, which we

1046
03:45:58,720 --> 03:46:02,360
are actually targeting at an 85% utilization rate.

1047
03:46:02,740 --> 03:46:09,240
So we have different tools that are toolbox that we use, but I would say the price per hour

1048
03:46:09,240 --> 03:46:14,820
as well as the time limit are two of the ones that are used most frequently.

1049
03:46:16,220 --> 03:46:17,800
Thank you for that, Mr. Ritz.

1050
03:46:18,840 --> 03:46:24,120
I'll perhaps I'll just phrase what was suggested to the community, and what you said to me

1051
03:46:24,120 --> 03:46:28,900
is that we have different charges at meters, so that make our party even more complicated

1052
03:46:28,900 --> 03:46:30,520
for someone who parks downtown.

1053
03:46:31,180 --> 03:46:37,200
But they said, why doesn't the city just make it easier, for instance, the individual calculated

1054
03:46:37,200 --> 03:46:42,960
it was 25 cents, you got nine minutes, and he thought it should be 15 minutes.

1055
03:46:42,960 --> 03:46:48,360
For a loony, you've got 36 minutes, and you've got, you know, put in a loony, you get an hour

1056
03:46:48,360 --> 03:46:52,860
partying, or even a chimney, you get two hours versus they get to 68 minutes.

1057
03:46:53,040 --> 03:46:58,020
So can you just comment on the complexity of that, because it seems like if we're encouraging

1058
03:46:58,020 --> 03:47:01,940
people to come downtown, they park at one area and then they park in another and it's different

1059
03:47:01,940 --> 03:47:02,920
rates and it's confusing.

1060
03:47:03,180 --> 03:47:04,400
So just comment, please.

1061
03:47:05,560 --> 03:47:10,500
It's for Mayor Johnson to count through, and she's, thank you for your question, because

1062
03:47:10,500 --> 03:47:19,960
I get to talk about another project that was approved by Council as part of our capital budget, and that is the replacement of our parking infrastructure.

1063
03:47:20,920 --> 03:47:25,460
And so that is happening in 2020 to 2023 as well.

1064
03:47:25,840 --> 03:47:36,720
And so the project in the request before you today is purely related to a temporary means of providing an incentive for people to come down and that's the free days on the meters.

1065
03:47:36,720 --> 03:48:00,160
The parking infrastructure project is actually a holistic replacement of all of our pay infrastructure, as well as a review of how we're charging what opportunities people have to pay, what that looks like all of our time limits every component that you see today in relation to parking will be reviewed as part of that project.

1066
03:48:00,160 --> 03:48:08,020
So we are really excited about launching into that initiative, because I think it will have

1067
03:48:08,020 --> 03:48:13,600
some, there's a lot of opportunities available within there to alleviate some of the concerns

1068
03:48:13,600 --> 03:48:15,700
that people feel in regards to parking.

1069
03:48:17,770 --> 03:48:19,010
Thank you for that, Mr. Rick.

1070
03:48:19,010 --> 03:48:23,250
Because that was my next question in terms of the update on that, so thank you for providing it.

1071
03:48:23,630 --> 03:48:29,770
But can we provide any clarity to the citizens who perhaps are, or is that a budget issue

1072
03:48:29,770 --> 03:48:35,310
that council can perhaps rectify that so it makes it more user friendly until we get to that

1073
03:48:35,310 --> 03:48:41,490
parking infrastructure development that we've met to modernize it can be looked at perhaps

1074
03:48:41,490 --> 03:48:47,690
making it easier like the 25 cents per 15 minutes or you know an hour for 36 or is that a

1075
03:48:47,690 --> 03:48:54,170
budgetary matter that can be brought to us. The third mayor Johnson's two council wishes.

1076
03:48:55,810 --> 03:49:05,070
Unfortunately, we're limited currently because it takes the significant amount of work to modify each of those individual meters.

1077
03:49:06,290 --> 03:49:17,010
And so we don't typically do that randomly because of the involvement as well as the fact that it has been approved by Council as part of our budget.

1078
03:49:17,010 --> 03:49:25,150
And so what I would say is that we really are not very far off from installing that new infrastructure.

1079
03:49:26,450 --> 03:49:30,870
And so if people can, by all means, reach out to us if they have questions.

1080
03:49:31,270 --> 03:49:37,270
If there's a better way of presenting information on our website, please reach out and let us know what that is.

1081
03:49:37,870 --> 03:49:45,030
But just hang tight for a bit, and I think a lot of those problems will be resolved with that installation of the new infrastructure.

1082
03:49:45,030 --> 03:49:52,390
It goes hand in hand with looking out different ways of paying for it, so potentially using apps.

1083
03:49:53,070 --> 03:49:57,330
Be able to see where souls are available and if it's currently being used.

1084
03:49:57,810 --> 03:50:04,170
All of those different components will form part of that project, but it would be rather difficult to change that currently.

1085
03:50:05,870 --> 03:50:08,970
Thank you very much. Those are my questions, Mayor. Thank you.

1086
03:50:09,150 --> 03:50:10,050
Thank you, Colson.

1087
03:50:13,830 --> 03:50:15,630
Thank you for your information.

1088
03:50:15,710 --> 03:50:19,030
I was actually going to ask about the parking in the parking infrastructure.

1089
03:50:20,690 --> 03:50:24,150
So, when you be able to, for instance, if you wanted to get 15 minutes free,

1090
03:50:24,250 --> 03:50:29,050
everybody, for two months, because that means we don't want these new

1091
03:50:29,050 --> 03:50:30,230
conversation infrastructure.

1092
03:50:34,410 --> 03:50:38,750
Through Mayor Johnson to council projects, and what I will say is I don't

1093
03:50:38,750 --> 03:50:41,970
yet know what the infrastructure will absolutely look like,

1094
03:50:42,570 --> 03:50:47,630
but it's very, very interesting to see what's available

1095
03:50:47,630 --> 03:50:50,190
and the opportunities they're out there.

1096
03:50:50,970 --> 03:50:53,570
So while I can't speak specifically to that,

1097
03:50:54,090 --> 03:50:55,910
one of the things that we are looking at

1098
03:50:55,910 --> 03:50:58,970
is more efficiencies around those types of things.

1099
03:50:59,030 --> 03:51:00,990
So if we're needing to modify rate,

1100
03:51:00,990 --> 03:51:06,050
so we're needing to provide this incentive again,

1101
03:51:06,170 --> 03:51:08,250
are there different ways of providing for that

1102
03:51:08,250 --> 03:51:14,270
the infrastructure. So I appreciate the comments. We're just not so deep into it. I don't

1103
03:51:14,270 --> 03:51:16,270
yet quite know what it looks like.

1104
03:51:16,590 --> 03:51:17,530
Awesome, thank you.

1105
03:51:20,120 --> 03:51:23,180
Thank you, Councillor. I have a question. Once a goal, we're going to

1106
03:51:23,180 --> 03:51:24,180
continue to meet.

1107
03:51:26,430 --> 03:51:27,070
Thank you very much.

1108
03:51:30,710 --> 03:51:33,470
I have a question. I don't know if it can be

1109
03:51:33,470 --> 03:51:42,710
addressed in this meeting, maybe it's worth mentioning, but what if

1110
03:51:45,200 --> 03:51:45,200
the

1111
03:51:54,620 --> 03:51:56,340
Thank you, Councillor Burns Sabel.

1112
03:51:56,340 --> 03:51:59,300
If you give me just one minute here, we can pull that information.

1113
03:51:59,860 --> 03:52:03,120
I know one of my friends in the background are doing so.

1114
03:52:03,920 --> 03:52:05,560
But what I will say in regards to that,

1115
03:52:05,640 --> 03:52:10,200
I want to say about $2.5 million was approved for the project.

1116
03:52:11,660 --> 03:52:17,080
And we are also in the process of looking into some grant funding that's available for the project.

1117
03:52:17,080 --> 03:52:25,360
So that's off the top of my head. I'll just see if we can confirm out if you bear with me for just one second.

1118
03:52:27,500 --> 03:52:29,400
Yes, the budget approved was 2.5 million.

1119
03:52:31,320 --> 03:52:40,020
Okay. And then my second question is regarding the specific day program we're talking about today. Are the three parking

1120
03:52:40,020 --> 03:52:45,340
bags going only on four to eight hour meters or are they going on 50 meters by part of the variation,

1121
03:52:45,640 --> 03:52:47,300
or how would we set up that way?

1122
03:52:49,360 --> 03:52:54,980
Through there, Johnson's Council, Brian Sable, a great question. We went through the process of simply

1123
03:52:54,980 --> 03:53:02,560
begging every fifth meter. So that includes both four hour, eight hour, two hours, and then

1124
03:53:02,560 --> 03:53:09,800
I'm trying to recall if it did hit the 30 meter begs. I believe the 30 minute begs were

1125
03:53:09,800 --> 03:53:15,420
30 minute meters per meter. The only ones that were not begged off. And we're limited in locations

1126
03:53:15,420 --> 03:53:21,880
as far as those 30 minute meters. There are simply located just immediately outside the front of

1127
03:53:21,880 --> 03:53:27,000
the Hall and the Court House on 48th Avenue.

1128
03:53:27,780 --> 03:53:30,060
The rest of them are every fifth.

1129
03:53:32,520 --> 03:53:35,340
They're actually people.

1130
03:53:36,820 --> 03:53:36,860
Yeah.

1131
03:53:36,860 --> 03:53:39,240
You're a bunch of the people that they've been doing.

1132
03:53:45,020 --> 03:53:48,040
Through Mayor Johnson to Councillor Byrne Stable.

1133
03:53:48,520 --> 03:53:51,880
At this time, it's just been in relation to the on

1134
03:53:52,660 --> 03:53:54,240
street parking meters.

1135
03:53:54,860 --> 03:53:57,580
The off street lots are typically more

1136
03:53:58,900 --> 03:54:04,520
We typically incentivize those that are down here for longer term parking to park off street.

1137
03:54:05,180 --> 03:54:11,460
And so it was felt that an incentivization of the on street was likely better for visitors,

1138
03:54:11,880 --> 03:54:15,700
who may not be down here for longer than an hour or two.

1139
03:54:16,400 --> 03:54:21,720
However, I do think as part of the parking infrastructure project,

1140
03:54:21,720 --> 03:54:26,380
I think is the launch of looking at parking differently

1141
03:54:26,380 --> 03:54:35,120
and using that as a tool to incentivize different things within the downtown on economic developments.

1142
03:54:35,460 --> 03:54:37,380
So I'm really excited about that project.

1143
03:54:38,000 --> 03:54:44,720
We just had our internal stakeholder launch last week with all of the various different departments.

1144
03:54:45,200 --> 03:54:49,260
And so I think it's going to be a very significant project for the downtown.

1145
03:54:51,100 --> 03:54:51,900
Thank you.

1146
03:54:53,400 --> 03:54:54,030
Thank you.

1147
03:54:55,230 --> 03:54:55,850
Thank

1148
03:54:57,870 --> 03:55:03,310
you, Mayor Johnson, and thank you, Councillor Burns Fable, like we did till the end of the

1149
03:55:03,310 --> 03:55:10,090
queue, and that probably saved you guys 20 minutes, because most of you have already asked questions

1150
03:55:10,090 --> 03:55:19,230
that I wouldn't in to address. But on a more budgetary note, Mayor Johnson, just to administration,

1151
03:55:19,230 --> 03:55:29,110
And what value are citizens getting in terms of our current parking fees versus say a

1152
03:55:29,110 --> 03:55:31,850
left-bridge mess and had inventory Calgary?

1153
03:55:32,610 --> 03:55:40,150
So are we in the right range of charging the right parking fees for our municipality and

1154
03:55:40,150 --> 03:55:41,330
that's my first question?

1155
03:55:44,220 --> 03:55:49,280
The three of Mayor Johnson's in Councilor Lee, you guys are full of great questions today

1156
03:55:49,280 --> 03:55:57,040
It wasn't expecting some of these, but I do believe that you'll recall a number of years ago,

1157
03:55:58,200 --> 03:56:05,080
there was a study done for the downtown which included a component related to parking usage.

1158
03:56:05,700 --> 03:56:11,040
And so what they found was that we actually have unabundance of supply.

1159
03:56:12,280 --> 03:56:17,360
And so as part of that project, we started to look at parking very differently.

1160
03:56:17,360 --> 03:56:23,540
we have the parking management strategy document now and so it has those goals or outcomes

1161
03:56:23,540 --> 03:56:30,860
that we look at. And as part of that, a budget request had been approved by council to implement

1162
03:56:31,480 --> 03:56:39,020
different time restrictions as well as rates throughout the downtown and do lot leases.

1163
03:56:39,240 --> 03:56:44,360
So prior to a couple of years ago, we weren't doing monthly leases within our parking lots.

1164
03:56:44,360 --> 03:56:46,660
that's has had a huge demand.

1165
03:56:47,080 --> 03:56:49,460
We have wait lists for a number of our parking lots

1166
03:56:49,460 --> 03:56:52,200
because the demand is so high for monthly usage.

1167
03:56:53,060 --> 03:56:55,540
So I do feel without providing specifics

1168
03:56:55,540 --> 03:57:00,840
that we are providing value in the dollar amounts

1169
03:57:01,400 --> 03:57:03,080
that are being charged currently.

1170
03:57:03,720 --> 03:57:06,020
But as indicated, that will all be reviewed

1171
03:57:06,020 --> 03:57:08,640
as part of this project in 2022.

1172
03:57:10,040 --> 03:57:12,920
And my final question we're going to mention is,

1173
03:57:12,920 --> 03:57:14,600
I would like to respect our current infrastructure,

1174
03:57:17,280 --> 03:57:19,760
would you say administration is the view

1175
03:57:19,760 --> 03:57:25,700
of the current state of our current infrastructure in terms of repairs maintenance, that sort

1176
03:57:25,700 --> 03:57:26,520
of facilitation?

1177
03:57:27,060 --> 03:57:34,540
How good is shape are we in to even continue with or not continue with our current infrastructure?

1178
03:57:34,540 --> 03:57:35,400
So,

1179
03:57:37,700 --> 03:57:46,060
we're very Johnson to councilor Lee, we quite honestly are just kind of handling

1180
03:57:46,060 --> 03:57:47,480
along at this point.

1181
03:57:47,640 --> 03:57:56,240
Our infrastructure is well past its use of use of life, and we are struggling to obtain

1182
03:57:56,240 --> 03:58:01,420
the parts required to fix some of our parking areas, the parking unit are specifically.

1183
03:58:01,420 --> 03:58:09,580
The other components in relation to this is that some of the different technologies don't speak to each other.

1184
03:58:10,000 --> 03:58:16,520
So for instance, the meters were done separately from our Austrian parking lot P equipments.

1185
03:58:16,900 --> 03:58:28,620
And so they don't speak to each other, which isn't ideal in the sense that when you're starting to have conversations about the holistic view of parking and usage and all of those different components,

1186
03:58:28,620 --> 03:58:34,760
It's really important that those systems are providing the same information and the same

1187
03:58:34,760 --> 03:58:37,900
forms and you can pull it out when you need to.

1188
03:58:38,760 --> 03:58:44,860
So I think that is also one of the other benefits of this project being done as it is.

1189
03:58:45,220 --> 03:58:49,780
We will be reviewing all of it together instead of peace feeling it.

1190
03:58:49,800 --> 03:58:50,340
Thank you.

1191
03:58:50,460 --> 03:58:56,380
In my last question, just in terms of will the new parking infrastructure require

1192
03:58:57,220 --> 03:59:07,250
Like I know in the past we've had at least two commissioners walking down the street with a container.

1193
03:59:07,630 --> 03:59:12,490
I would call it a safe space with a coin going into that container.

1194
03:59:13,350 --> 03:59:20,890
With that process, I'll date it at that point or we still require staff to do that.

1195
03:59:20,890 --> 03:59:30,050
So, to Councillor Lee, without knowing specifically what the new infrastructure will look like,

1196
03:59:30,070 --> 03:59:38,130
one of the components related to that, which I think is significant as how people pay for the usage of that.

1197
03:59:38,890 --> 03:59:46,610
And so, looking at things like apps and credit cards and tap, and all of those different technologies that are now available,

1198
03:59:46,610 --> 03:59:51,510
and weren't available 12 or 15 years ago when not infrastructure was installed.

1199
03:59:52,990 --> 03:59:56,690
So will we still have some coin pickup likely?

1200
03:59:57,130 --> 03:59:59,410
Because there are still some people who may wish.

1201
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:09,100
To use Queen. However, I do think that the amount or the volume of Queen will be minimized quite extensively.

1202
04:00:10,060 --> 04:00:27,260
And then there may not be individual leaders. It may be that there's paid as lay machines located throughout and across the street. So it may be less burdensome to staff in order to pick that point out.

1203
04:00:27,260 --> 04:00:30,640
Thank you, and I give it back to you, Mayor Johnson.

1204
04:00:32,000 --> 04:00:32,800
Thank you, Councillor Cousin.

1205
04:00:35,300 --> 04:00:36,500
Thank you very much, Mayor Johnson.

1206
04:00:36,800 --> 04:00:41,260
Through this steward, in terms of when we were,

1207
04:00:41,360 --> 04:00:44,380
let's call it normal times, and where we are at today,

1208
04:00:44,720 --> 04:00:47,980
do we have a sense of what the net proceeds are for our parking,

1209
04:00:48,100 --> 04:00:51,060
will be a tremendous, all-ranking sources and all expenses?

1210
04:00:52,040 --> 04:00:55,080
And I'm running a particular injury in this last year,

1211
04:00:55,080 --> 04:01:00,920
hear it out with the COVID case if it's still continues to be brought to me.

1212
04:01:03,980 --> 04:01:06,540
It's through your worship to Council of Bermas.

1213
04:01:06,780 --> 04:01:10,920
I don't have the exact financial information available at this point.

1214
04:01:12,360 --> 04:01:16,020
To be honest, it wasn't expecting all of these questions to this degree.

1215
04:01:16,700 --> 04:01:19,640
However, we certainly can get that information for you.

1216
04:01:20,140 --> 04:01:27,920
What I would say is that revenue has been has decreased as far as what has come

1217
04:01:27,920 --> 04:01:33,540
over the course of COVID, which isn't surprising given the fact that there's been working

1218
04:01:33,540 --> 04:01:41,280
from home orders as well as what I would say there's been a significant impact because of the

1219
04:01:41,280 --> 04:01:47,960
Donald school doing courses online. So there certainly has been an impact to parking there.

1220
04:01:48,440 --> 04:01:54,460
We haven't turned means and significant changes in our operations to try to reduce costs associated

1221
04:01:54,460 --> 04:02:01,660
with running parking as well and doing things differently. So I think that's helped to offset

1222
04:02:02,380 --> 04:02:11,060
the losses of revenue in there. But I was also quite pleasantly surprised to see that there's

1223
04:02:11,060 --> 04:02:16,440
still are a number of visitors that are coming into the downtown and it does certainly seem like

1224
04:02:16,440 --> 04:02:22,360
that has increased over the last couple of months, as well as into the summer months there. So

1225
04:02:22,360 --> 04:02:31,300
I do believe that we should start, I'm hopeful, to feed some of those numbers return to pre-COVID's this year.

1226
04:02:33,430 --> 04:02:37,410
Thanks very much for sticking in. Dear Johnson, turn to Mr. Stewart.

1227
04:02:37,690 --> 04:02:44,150
Part of it is I was just wanting to do is any five given the challenges for downtown businesses and wanting to attract,

1228
04:02:45,010 --> 04:02:48,850
or if this routine span you're if you're working in charge for parking.

1229
04:02:48,850 --> 04:03:03,790
If it is, you know, from a financial perspective, a wash or a proper, or a suggest, from the decision making perspective, that's the reason I'm asking the question, as we try to make downtown more attractive and doing that.

1230
04:03:04,430 --> 04:03:10,690
So, again, I think it probably provided you answer, but that's my rationale for asking the question, I'm not sure if you have any more to add to that.

1231
04:03:12,090 --> 04:03:19,690
Through your worship to Council Burma, I do feel as though if you were to reach out to

1232
04:03:19,690 --> 04:03:25,330
downtown businesses, they would probably be slits in regards to whether or not they

1233
04:03:25,330 --> 04:03:31,010
fundamentally believe in paid parking. So there will be those businesses that don't

1234
04:03:31,010 --> 04:03:37,610
wish to see paid parking and we did have that scenario quite some time ago when these

1235
04:03:37,610 --> 04:03:44,170
were actually installed. However, there's probably a fair chunk that on the other side would

1236
04:03:44,170 --> 04:03:50,630
they want to see paid parking because it does result in that turnover. It does result in

1237
04:03:50,630 --> 04:03:59,210
shortage or longer-term parking typically, which is employees, they are then in turn in the off-street

1238
04:03:59,210 --> 04:04:05,830
parking lots. So I don't think the moving the requirement for paid parking is the answer.

1239
04:04:05,830 --> 04:04:13,170
parking will always kind of poke people because it's just one of those things that

1240
04:04:13,170 --> 04:04:17,290
immediately get people riled up but I do think there's certainly different ways of

1241
04:04:17,290 --> 04:04:24,070
looking at things and doing things differently and overall infrastructure of placement I

1242
04:04:24,070 --> 04:04:29,510
think is key to that and then finally I would just say if it's something that's of interest

1243
04:04:29,510 --> 04:04:35,710
to council we can certainly send out the parking management strategy along with some of

1244
04:04:35,710 --> 04:04:41,130
So updated financial information or easy information, if that's a bit of interest.

1245
04:04:43,340 --> 04:04:47,960
I'll turn it here, Johnson, I'll leave that to my council colleagues if they would like to see that information.

1246
04:04:48,500 --> 04:04:50,320
I think there is some value in doing it.

1247
04:04:50,600 --> 04:04:51,440
I appreciate it.

1248
04:04:51,440 --> 04:04:55,860
Mr. Rick and regards to your conversation about where business is out.

1249
04:04:55,880 --> 04:04:56,660
I think it's important.

1250
04:04:56,920 --> 04:05:02,020
And I know that there wasn't much in the area of opportunities for stakeholder consultations on this,

1251
04:05:02,380 --> 04:05:07,200
but I do hope that the voice of the downtown business association and business community is part of that.

1252
04:05:07,200 --> 04:05:12,880
I also think, as you have outlined in your report, that concerns of employee and staff parking,

1253
04:05:13,140 --> 04:05:21,620
those are impediments for making this work and I hope you would be down to how business association work can work to make sure we can achieve the objectives we're wanting to do with this.

1254
04:05:21,700 --> 04:05:22,400
Thank you very much.

1255
04:05:26,460 --> 04:05:27,140
Thank you, Councillor.

1256
04:05:27,420 --> 04:05:31,480
Are there not seeing any further questions?

1257
04:05:31,980 --> 04:05:33,520
Thank you, Mr.ford, for the report.

1258
04:05:33,520 --> 04:05:38,640
And that's a lot of call for in mover and second order.

1259
04:05:38,800 --> 04:05:42,540
On the item that it is a resolution found on page 32,

1260
04:05:43,060 --> 04:05:45,580
I'll ask this to ask the City Clerk to read the resolution.

1261
04:05:45,980 --> 04:05:51,120
You have to record it and then I will call for a mover and second order on the draw.

1262
04:05:51,420 --> 04:05:53,600
So go ahead to the City Clerk for our vote, please.

1263
04:05:54,140 --> 04:05:55,800
Resolve the Council of the City of Redger.

1264
04:05:55,940 --> 04:05:58,260
Have it considered their report from inspections and licensing.

1265
04:05:58,260 --> 04:06:05,380
data February 14, 2022 free parking meter bag program here by direct

1266
04:06:05,380 --> 04:06:09,000
administration to foster activity in the downtown by providing temporary

1267
04:06:09,000 --> 04:06:16,060
two-hour free parking in 215 spots for 2022 and that council approve a one-time

1268
04:06:16,060 --> 04:06:21,240
allocation of $113,000 from the operating reserve tax-supported budget.

1269
04:06:22,650 --> 04:06:23,650
Thank you.

1270
04:06:23,830 --> 04:06:29,630
On the draw, I will go with Councillor Ryan seconded by Councillor Brooks and Councillor

1271
04:06:29,630 --> 04:06:30,110
Ryan.

1272
04:06:30,510 --> 04:06:32,290
Did you wish to address the matter?

1273
04:06:35,530 --> 04:06:35,950
Yes, I did.

1274
04:06:36,270 --> 04:06:37,010
Councillor Mayer.

1275
04:06:37,110 --> 04:06:38,130
Did you have any?

1276
04:06:38,430 --> 04:06:38,750
Yes.

1277
04:06:39,230 --> 04:06:39,850
Thank you.

1278
04:06:40,290 --> 04:06:40,590
Okay.

1279
04:06:41,090 --> 04:06:41,410
So,

1280
04:06:43,640 --> 04:06:50,260
some of the very, very quick background in terms of, it wasn't in the report, but in terms of

1281
04:06:50,260 --> 04:06:54,560
our Turkey utility, the history of it.

1282
04:06:54,560 --> 04:07:01,240
I didn't recall that it was last year or the previous year, but Council moved our

1283
04:07:01,240 --> 04:07:05,880
parking infrastructure program from a self-funded, I say self-funded because it was

1284
04:07:05,880 --> 04:07:10,760
chronically underfunded or chronically ran in the random to the burdens of the

1285
04:07:10,760 --> 04:07:17,600
adventure from the park aid. And so because of that, Council made the decision to move it

1286
04:07:17,600 --> 04:07:24,940
self-funded utility program into the into the tax base, the property tax base.

1287
04:07:26,460 --> 04:07:28,940
So because of this,

1288
04:07:30,000 --> 04:07:39,440
I find myself in, you know, I've really been wrestling with this over the weekend. I find myself reticent to extend this free parking

1289
04:07:39,440 --> 04:07:46,940
meter program into this year, giving the fact that our community and province, we appear to be on the

1290
04:07:46,940 --> 04:07:55,400
cost of COVID restrictions being lifted shortly and you know, an anticipated return to something

1291
04:07:55,400 --> 04:08:03,000
have a pre-COVID lifestyle in terms of, you know, attraction to the downtown or activity in

1292
04:08:03,000 --> 04:08:03,560
the downtown.

1293
04:08:04,600 --> 04:08:10,960
And then secondly, the fact that the parking infrastructure is now funded through the tax

1294
04:08:10,960 --> 04:08:13,020
base versus as a self-learning utility.

1295
04:08:13,480 --> 04:08:21,380
So, I just supported for last year, because, you know, we were still struggling through the

1296
04:08:22,440 --> 04:08:29,360
and wanting to provide some relief to our community to our citizens and attract our visitors to the downtown,

1297
04:08:30,420 --> 04:08:35,780
but incredibly I find myself unable to support it for this year for those reasons by doubt applied.

1298
04:08:36,360 --> 04:08:36,800
Thank you.

1299
04:08:39,080 --> 04:08:39,520
Thank you.

1300
04:08:39,560 --> 04:08:43,260
Thank you, Mayor Johnson.

1301
04:08:44,620 --> 04:08:48,770
I will be supporting the initiative for a one more year.

1302
04:08:48,770 --> 04:08:55,830
and tell at least we see a new parking infrastructure come in.

1303
04:08:57,230 --> 04:09:00,850
I think what it does is it balances, you know,

1304
04:09:01,610 --> 04:09:04,050
I think it balances the need in our downtown.

1305
04:09:04,430 --> 04:09:06,190
It has had some positive effect.

1306
04:09:06,450 --> 04:09:10,750
I noted in the report and I know that that is probably anecdotal

1307
04:09:10,750 --> 04:09:12,950
from our staff on the ground.

1308
04:09:12,950 --> 04:09:22,810
But, you know, the majority of the working hours of our meters, that those 250 installs

1309
04:09:22,810 --> 04:09:23,610
were being utilized.

1310
04:09:24,130 --> 04:09:26,170
So I see that that is a good sign.

1311
04:09:27,290 --> 04:09:35,590
I do believe, though, that this is a complex issue, downtown parkings have many different

1312
04:09:36,110 --> 04:09:39,570
tentacles and facets of what we have to look at.

1313
04:09:39,570 --> 04:09:50,550
I look at the parking revenues, not just being a source to support that infrastructure,

1314
04:09:51,670 --> 04:09:58,070
but also to supplement, you know, some of the initiatives that are going down town, and

1315
04:09:58,070 --> 04:10:01,510
the continual infrastructure that will need to be invested in the downtown.

1316
04:10:02,030 --> 04:10:08,730
And I see that because I look at an area now that we are beginning to see and develop,

1317
04:10:08,730 --> 04:10:16,170
which is Capstone, and you don't see a lot of parking in Capstone, and there's reason

1318
04:10:16,170 --> 04:10:16,590
for that.

1319
04:10:16,670 --> 04:10:21,510
It's deliberate whether you're biking, transport, sorry, using a transit, public transit,

1320
04:10:22,830 --> 04:10:30,430
or late walking, that area becomes more utilized and more attractive to certain segments

1321
04:10:30,430 --> 04:10:36,710
or certain businesses that will eventually locate there.

1322
04:10:36,710 --> 04:10:39,850
So hopefully parking will be as much as

1323
04:10:39,850 --> 04:10:42,630
the shoe that it is in our old downtown.

1324
04:10:42,810 --> 04:10:43,930
But we're always deep parking.

1325
04:10:44,870 --> 04:10:47,630
The new courthouse going up is a moniker of that.

1326
04:10:47,810 --> 04:10:51,490
We will absolutely have more utilization.

1327
04:10:52,030 --> 04:10:56,370
I hope we do hit the 85% utilization of parking in our downtown.

1328
04:10:57,050 --> 04:10:59,610
Because that would mean we have a healthy downtown.

1329
04:11:00,890 --> 04:11:04,830
So I will be supporting it simply because we have

1330
04:11:04,830 --> 04:11:12,430
all dated infrastructure in place. It's a good balance for the community. It offers an option

1331
04:11:12,430 --> 04:11:19,750
for those that are doing short-term visits and visitors to our city to be able to enjoy

1332
04:11:19,750 --> 04:11:27,130
the streetscape or attend a visit for a two-hour period as opposed to not coming down

1333
04:11:27,130 --> 04:11:29,970
So, Dr.

1334
04:11:30,370 --> 04:11:30,390
Dr.

1335
04:11:31,650 --> 04:11:35,830
Thank you, Councillor Gly, have excuse me.

1336
04:11:36,210 --> 04:11:37,650
Passo, I want to just go ahead.

1337
04:11:38,850 --> 04:11:39,850
Thank you, Mayor Johnson.

1338
04:11:40,590 --> 04:11:41,830
I will be supporting this.

1339
04:11:42,030 --> 04:11:44,370
As the students said, parking is complicated

1340
04:11:44,370 --> 04:11:48,770
and for those of you who have been on council for a while now,

1341
04:11:48,950 --> 04:11:52,330
you sometimes get the wrath of those who are unfortunately

1342
04:11:52,330 --> 04:11:56,150
received a parking ticket, as well as the appreciation

1343
04:11:56,150 --> 04:12:03,950
from those who now are seeing the bank meters down town and it took the previous council

1344
04:12:03,950 --> 04:12:09,070
is a long time to get us finally to the bank meters and I would hate to see it disappear

1345
04:12:09,070 --> 04:12:17,430
just after the one summer and winter. I think this do it has indicated the complexity of it

1346
04:12:17,430 --> 04:12:22,090
based upon my questions about asking and the challenges for some of our citizens and understanding

1347
04:12:22,090 --> 04:12:28,090
So I really look forward to the investment and the cost we'll make with respect to the modernization of parking.

1348
04:12:28,190 --> 04:12:35,130
If you've traveled to other major cities, you certainly see that and that will help those hopefully not get tickets.

1349
04:12:35,890 --> 04:12:42,350
I also think it's important that the individuals that I've spoken to and even watched some of the comments in social media.

1350
04:12:42,830 --> 04:12:51,590
There still is a drive for some people saying free parking for all, but I think that was explained by administration why it's important to have that balance of parking.

1351
04:12:52,410 --> 04:13:00,910
He's in provided so for me I will support it and look forward to the outcomes and along with the new modernized parking infrastructure.

1352
04:13:01,170 --> 04:13:02,130
Thank you.

1353
04:13:02,130 --> 04:13:02,570
Thank you.

1354
04:13:02,770 --> 04:13:03,450
Thank you.

1355
04:13:03,450 --> 04:13:03,470
Thank you.

1356
04:13:07,770 --> 04:13:09,790
My will be supporting this initiative.

1357
04:13:10,790 --> 04:13:12,730
Speaking to your number of people in the downtown community.

1358
04:13:12,870 --> 04:13:14,370
I know they appreciate any time.

1359
04:13:15,390 --> 04:13:17,630
Any kind of enticing effect.

1360
04:13:17,630 --> 04:13:21,630
to have some visit their business especially something like a, you know, you have a coffee shop that,

1361
04:13:22,610 --> 04:13:28,930
you know, we don't want to spend $10 on parking and $2 on coffee doesn't seem to add up to make it to make sense.

1362
04:13:29,630 --> 04:13:34,510
So I will be for the definition of, I know I wasn't part of the last council decided on me.

1363
04:13:34,610 --> 04:13:37,450
We infrastructure for the parking that's coming into downtown.

1364
04:13:38,630 --> 04:13:45,990
Hearing the costs associated, I'd love to see those numbers and reports as well, just hearing about 2.5 million for something

1365
04:13:45,990 --> 04:13:51,430
that, you know, many businesses that lead the GANSon area would like to see, you know,

1366
04:13:51,770 --> 04:13:54,010
there'd be less restrictions on parking.

1367
04:13:54,750 --> 04:13:58,810
So, I'd be interested to see that the class analysis was the revenue, where I'd get to see,

1368
04:13:58,810 --> 04:14:01,690
and I know that the conversation is another day, but for the time being,

1369
04:14:01,850 --> 04:14:05,650
I'm excited and thankful that we can offer free parking to some.

1370
04:14:06,190 --> 04:14:09,930
And I'd like to see free parking be expanded in a way as

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04:14:11,030 --> 04:14:16,910
I have been privating to the information that the previous

1372
04:14:16,910 --> 04:14:17,850
Council have, but I

1373
04:14:23,230 --> 04:14:24,590
look closer to Council Room.

1374
04:14:28,620 --> 04:14:32,300
It's very much I appreciate the number of questions that have been asked and been

1375
04:14:32,300 --> 04:14:34,320
speaking on the agenda person discussion.

1376
04:14:35,240 --> 04:14:39,800
As I was asking about earlier, with Mr. Guards Department, I believe that during our current

1377
04:14:39,800 --> 04:14:45,200
time we need to do everything we can to attract the full of challenges there, so I'm not looking

1378
04:14:45,200 --> 04:14:50,320
out of for a long-term piece, but I do believe that we need to look at parking in the

1379
04:14:50,320 --> 04:14:55,940
guys where the customers are in certain ways, it is an impediment to downtown and needs to

1380
04:14:55,940 --> 04:14:56,380
do that.

1381
04:14:56,680 --> 04:14:59,420
I also think a bit, regardless if there is.

1382
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:04,240
Good evening to make sure there is that over turn of a journal where I should say if people live

1383
04:15:04,240 --> 04:15:09,780
Parkinson's Falls to do that. It's a complicated initiative and I appreciate it's up to you.

1384
04:15:09,860 --> 04:15:12,100
And educated and a little bit more on it today.

1385
04:15:14,310 --> 04:15:24,990
You can consider I am not seeing me further, so we're good. Council will call the question. Those opposed to this item.

1386
04:15:27,810 --> 04:15:35,870
Thank you, Councillor. That passes in the majority. Thank you so much for that council and thank you very, very much.

1387
04:15:36,070 --> 04:15:38,750
Once again for work in the court.

1388
04:15:40,850 --> 04:15:51,790
So council, our next items on the consent agenda are 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7. The

1389
04:15:51,790 --> 04:15:57,930
computer, the convenience by law amendment, the land use by law make sure yes, there are

1390
04:15:57,930 --> 04:16:05,410
those three items. So, I would call it for a mover and

1391
04:16:08,190 --> 04:16:09,970
on the draw, I have counselor,

1392
04:16:10,230 --> 04:16:19,290
Bruma, seconded by counselor, draw, and then I will open up for any severing or whatever.

1393
04:16:19,290 --> 04:16:22,190
So, I see Councilor Haim go ahead.

1394
04:16:23,960 --> 04:16:33,040
So, I'm sorry, I'm still not familiar with exactly the timing of the process, but I didn't want to sever the scooter by law as I have amendments.

1395
04:16:41,790 --> 04:16:46,130
There are any other words, severings on the board inside these scooters.

1396
04:16:49,980 --> 04:16:50,640
Thank you, Council.

1397
04:16:51,360 --> 04:16:59,380
So, I will be calling that for acceptance on the consent agenda of item 4.6 and 4.7.

1398
04:16:59,380 --> 04:17:03,340
And we have moved by Councilor Burma, seconded by Councilor Gaul,

1399
04:17:03,560 --> 04:17:06,740
the remaining Councilors, of course, the acceptance of those two items.

1400
04:17:08,560 --> 04:17:09,980
We're good, they passed unanimously.

1401
04:17:11,020 --> 04:17:13,920
So the severed item now becomes 4.5.

1402
04:17:14,520 --> 04:17:18,700
And Councilor Kham, I will come take you to have questions,

1403
04:17:18,920 --> 04:17:23,980
or do you want to make four questions before you do any amendments,

1404
04:17:24,140 --> 04:17:25,340
or do you have questions as well?

1405
04:17:25,760 --> 04:17:28,180
I do. I do have questions for you.

1406
04:17:28,180 --> 04:17:31,000
Thank you, that's fine for that.

1407
04:17:31,340 --> 04:17:32,080
Yeah, thank you.

1408
04:17:32,320 --> 04:17:35,180
So I just wanted to ask around...

1409
04:17:37,580 --> 04:17:38,700
Before my...

1410
04:17:40,330 --> 04:17:40,930
Go for my hand.

1411
04:17:40,990 --> 04:17:43,810
I wanted to ask around the...

1412
04:17:44,630 --> 04:17:47,810
No, and this is on page 112 of our agenda.

1413
04:17:48,550 --> 04:17:52,850
So a person less than 18 years old shall not operate in a scooter.

1414
04:17:53,970 --> 04:17:57,310
So just rationale around that, knowing that, for example,

1415
04:17:57,310 --> 04:18:06,310
Just in a little very quick research and a 12-year-old can operate and motorized bike in Alberta.

1416
04:18:07,190 --> 04:18:13,570
A 14-year-old can drive a car with a learner's license, so you have to have an adult license adult present.

1417
04:18:14,270 --> 04:18:20,630
But 14-year-old can drive a car with a learner's a 16-year-old can drive a car on their own.

1418
04:18:20,970 --> 04:18:26,270
And surprisingly, a 16-year-old can fly a plane solo.

1419
04:18:27,310 --> 04:18:55,850
So I guess, you know, the challenge for me is why we are restricting to those under 18 not allowed typically under the bylaw and yet, you know, anecdotally and really in reality, what we saw on our streets, every single day through this pilot last summer, and into the fall was families kids under 18 were utilizing it.

1420
04:18:55,850 --> 04:19:02,450
We'll just come in from an illustration to have to ask that, you know, the economy for me.

1421
04:19:07,440 --> 04:19:16,160
To Mayor Johnson to account for, hi, I'm great questions and this is a very awkward piece of the

1422
04:19:16,160 --> 04:19:17,180
Institute of Program.

1423
04:19:17,640 --> 04:19:25,140
So, under the province of Alberta, the exception permits for the companies that do apply for them,

1424
04:19:25,140 --> 04:19:31,220
state that authorized writers must be 16 years of age or the age prescribed by the local

1425
04:19:31,220 --> 04:19:37,620
municipality. So, yes, I've done the line with an operator's permits. Where we is aligned with

1426
04:19:37,620 --> 04:19:42,840
that 18 years of age was to be similar to our counter-person image in the Calgary with their

1427
04:19:42,840 --> 04:19:49,900
pilot programs, but also from the perspective of insurance waviors. So, as a user of the East

1428
04:19:49,900 --> 04:19:54,160
to program when you're signing into the app and saying that you were going to operate this vehicle

1429
04:19:54,160 --> 04:19:55,800
or per vehicle.

1430
04:19:57,160 --> 04:20:00,020
That you're signing off on any damages that may happen.

1431
04:20:00,280 --> 04:20:06,600
Somebody under the legal age of 18 does not necessarily have that adult classification

1432
04:20:06,600 --> 04:20:09,600
to wave their insurance right to that.

1433
04:20:10,680 --> 04:20:13,640
There are pieces of this that we've flagged with the company.

1434
04:20:13,800 --> 04:20:18,560
So we'll be working with them on throughout season 2 to figure out what that logistically looks like

1435
04:20:18,560 --> 04:20:20,660
to change the program, become permanent.

1436
04:20:21,380 --> 04:20:26,240
It makes sense operationally for it to align with a 16 year age classification,

1437
04:20:26,840 --> 04:20:30,980
given that you can, like you say, play in solo, but there's just

1438
04:20:30,980 --> 04:20:33,960
some more work that needs to happen before we can reduce that age.

1439
04:20:37,000 --> 04:20:42,080
So I guess I'm really struggling in terms of, you know,

1440
04:20:42,160 --> 04:20:47,740
I recognize there's one regime, the insurance regime,

1441
04:20:48,940 --> 04:20:55,540
And that's what the scooter companies are bound to correct through contract to their users.

1442
04:20:56,000 --> 04:20:59,280
But in terms of, this is a separate regime that we're dealing with.

1443
04:20:59,460 --> 04:21:03,600
When I'm looking at this by-law that we are proposing to pass,

1444
04:21:04,140 --> 04:21:09,820
this is a municipal regime where we will enforce and by penalty,

1445
04:21:09,820 --> 04:21:11,100
I'm fine,

1446
04:21:13,340 --> 04:21:15,260
those who don't abine the buy loss.

1447
04:21:15,860 --> 04:21:19,360
So I see it potentially as two different streams,

1448
04:21:19,780 --> 04:21:23,500
and I personally not sure I can support finding someone

1449
04:21:23,500 --> 04:21:27,000
60 dollars, so I don't support it.

1450
04:21:27,080 --> 04:21:30,960
You know, when we know that they're going to be hundreds of,

1451
04:21:30,960 --> 04:21:33,740
you know, under 18, that's what we saw in the streets all the time.

1452
04:21:34,220 --> 04:21:35,520
So can we just speak to that?

1453
04:21:36,460 --> 04:21:39,900
Why can't we have a regime in terms of what we are going to enforce

1454
04:21:39,900 --> 04:21:46,560
with fines that is different from an insurance policy regime that the companies are helping.

1455
04:21:49,230 --> 04:21:53,650
Through Mayor Johnson to Councillor Hayham, a great question again.

1456
04:21:53,810 --> 04:21:57,730
So we did align with the other municipalities that we compare with, and this is an effective

1457
04:21:57,730 --> 04:21:58,670
pilot project.

1458
04:21:59,430 --> 04:22:04,090
So we pulled a look at reducing that age under the permanent structure once we've had our time

1459
04:22:04,090 --> 04:22:05,790
to do the due diligence pieces.

1460
04:22:05,790 --> 04:22:13,130
It is likely a minimal risk for taking in the fact that those tools are in there for more repeat of vendors.

1461
04:22:13,670 --> 04:22:16,930
And in my conversations with me to a simple piece in our CMP,

1462
04:22:17,130 --> 04:22:23,430
our first and primary objective of this product program is the educational and safety components of the program.

1463
04:22:24,030 --> 04:22:27,650
So, again, I'm sure people understand the wise of it's proper usage.

1464
04:22:27,990 --> 04:22:29,410
Those would be the tools first and all.

1465
04:22:30,000 --> 04:22:42,060
Only in a case where somebody is a consistent repeat-of-bender or basically operating with undue care and attention, causing harm, those types of things are where the funds and ticketing will come into play.

1466
04:22:42,820 --> 04:22:48,700
So somebody being ticketed as a 16-year rider in this year, the pilot would be very minimal.

1467
04:22:49,420 --> 04:22:57,980
I think they would have to be operating with extreme dangers in order for an RC&P member. I mean, it's so pleasing officer to take it under that roll.

1468
04:22:57,980 --> 04:22:58,660
One

1469
04:23:03,040 --> 04:23:13,700
question then is if this is a pilot program, why are we unending our BILAR to address it?

1470
04:23:13,920 --> 04:23:18,760
When we had a pilot program all of a sudden without this included in the BILAR,

1471
04:23:19,340 --> 04:23:21,360
I don't mean wait until we did a permanent program.

1472
04:23:24,000 --> 04:23:26,960
Through our Johnson Council, I am a great question.

1473
04:23:27,140 --> 04:23:30,940
So we did make some modifications for the language in the first BILAR program.

1474
04:23:30,940 --> 04:23:36,840
by law amendments. The funds are coming after some of those educational pieces, pieces, and the

1475
04:23:36,840 --> 04:23:41,940
challenges that our safety and municipal policing had with repeat offenders. So really, they could do

1476
04:23:41,940 --> 04:23:46,840
the education, they could do the warning, but we have no teeth to curb some of that behavior for those

1477
04:23:46,840 --> 04:23:49,680
that consistently portrayed unsafe uses.

1478
04:23:52,580 --> 04:23:54,480
Those are my questions. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. But I will

1479
04:23:54,480 --> 04:23:59,420
have, I think I will still bring some proposed amendments at the appropriate time.

1480
04:24:15,940 --> 04:24:16,140
Thank you.

1481
04:24:19,480 --> 04:24:23,580
So there you are, so Cassidy White has nothing to go.

1482
04:24:24,180 --> 04:24:28,140
Now, I don't know about today if it's me or you spoke, thank you for that.

1483
04:24:29,100 --> 04:24:33,060
I see some people frozen on my screen and some people very active.

1484
04:24:33,460 --> 04:24:35,280
So it's really a strange day.

1485
04:24:36,020 --> 04:24:40,320
Thank you for asking me the questions and commenting about the offenses.

1486
04:24:40,320 --> 04:24:48,260
My question is about the feedback about how long scooters were left in areas.

1487
04:24:49,000 --> 04:24:53,820
That was one of the conversations that I had with citizens regarding seeing scooters

1488
04:24:53,820 --> 04:24:59,840
left and noting some were picked up quite quickly while others were left for a while.

1489
04:25:00,040 --> 04:25:05,640
So just to comment on that in terms of how the operators respond to those leftover scooters.

1490
04:25:05,880 --> 04:25:06,500
Thank you.

1491
04:25:08,320 --> 04:25:09,180
Thanks for the question.

1492
04:25:09,180 --> 04:25:11,320
through Mayor Johnson to Council on Chess.

1493
04:25:11,620 --> 04:25:14,580
So on our licensing agreement with each individual company,

1494
04:25:14,860 --> 04:25:17,240
four scooters that are left in an area that are not

1495
04:25:17,240 --> 04:25:22,300
deemed an imminent safety concern, for example, blocking a roadway

1496
04:25:22,300 --> 04:25:25,360
or an accessible crossing that those types of pieces.

1497
04:25:25,680 --> 04:25:28,440
They have up to three days to pick up those scooters

1498
04:25:28,440 --> 04:25:31,460
that are not part in an imminent safety concern platform.

1499
04:25:32,200 --> 04:25:35,020
After the three days, all of the city does have the right

1500
04:25:35,020 --> 04:25:37,380
to then go pick it up to the complaints continue

1501
04:25:37,380 --> 04:25:42,900
and then charge back to the companies in the first season where we received those concerns

1502
04:25:42,900 --> 04:25:46,820
stating that, you know, this is day four and the students still sitting on the front of my lawn.

1503
04:25:47,620 --> 04:25:51,920
We have a really great relationship with the six companies that were here for the first season of the

1504
04:25:51,920 --> 04:25:58,660
pilots and they've responded quite quickly. They have a vested interest in the success of the program

1505
04:25:58,660 --> 04:26:03,460
and being responsive as part of that success. So I think that relationship will continue and

1506
04:26:03,460 --> 04:26:08,560
as this computer concerns come forward, we will act on them as quickly as possible.

1507
04:26:10,640 --> 04:26:11,120
Thank you for that.

1508
04:26:11,240 --> 04:26:17,300
Did we have a student or hotline to call or was that just a regular city call in number?

1509
04:26:19,580 --> 04:26:24,220
Through Mayor Johnson to council lunch as we encourage most of those concerns to come through

1510
04:26:24,220 --> 04:26:25,320
our report problem.

1511
04:26:25,700 --> 04:26:30,420
And there is a specific and scooter classification that would come to our departments.

1512
04:26:30,420 --> 04:26:35,920
We can respond very quickly that way. I'm also somebody called our licensing line or public board's line

1513
04:26:35,920 --> 04:26:39,460
It also got forwarded to inspections and licensing to respond

1514
04:26:39,980 --> 04:26:41,980
Very good. Thank you. Those are my questions

1515
04:26:42,940 --> 04:26:45,900
Thank you, Councillor. I have councillor Dirks

1516
04:26:47,260 --> 04:26:48,900
I just have one second question

1517
04:26:50,480 --> 04:26:53,800
What happens if we don't pass the file?

1518
04:26:56,970 --> 04:26:59,090
to Mayor Johnson to Councilor Durkson.

1519
04:26:59,370 --> 04:27:00,710
If he don't pass the by-law,

1520
04:27:00,970 --> 04:27:02,510
then especially if he wouldn't have the ability

1521
04:27:02,510 --> 04:27:04,270
to issue any Pfizer penalties,

1522
04:27:04,910 --> 04:27:06,490
for some of those repeat offenders,

1523
04:27:06,870 --> 04:27:09,470
we was still be able to provide the educational components

1524
04:27:09,470 --> 04:27:11,310
and focus on the safety,

1525
04:27:11,910 --> 04:27:14,650
and use of the e-scooters that that's where we wouldn't have

1526
04:27:14,650 --> 04:27:17,630
those extra tools to gain proper compliance.

1527
04:27:19,950 --> 04:27:22,230
Welcome to the last question on a different way,

1528
04:27:22,430 --> 04:27:24,050
are we even about to tell a why?

1529
04:27:27,120 --> 04:27:28,820
So Mayor Johnson to Councilor Durkson,

1530
04:27:29,220 --> 04:27:30,600
I don't believe so.

1531
04:27:30,600 --> 04:27:33,540
I think that's part of typical for biologists

1532
04:27:33,540 --> 04:27:35,360
to have the finds and penalties associated

1533
04:27:35,360 --> 04:27:36,740
with certain operations.

1534
04:27:37,780 --> 04:27:39,460
Biologists are steadily created for the people

1535
04:27:39,460 --> 04:27:41,180
that don't choose to follow the rules

1536
04:27:41,180 --> 04:27:43,380
and those are the ones that you want to have

1537
04:27:43,380 --> 04:27:46,560
on the extra enforcement abilities for them.

1538
04:27:46,560 --> 04:27:48,480
The majority of people do follow the rules

1539
04:27:48,480 --> 04:27:52,660
and can appreciate the reasons why biologists are in place.

1540
04:28:00,680 --> 04:28:03,080
They can tell, so we're going to continue to remind council,

1541
04:28:03,380 --> 04:28:05,520
but this is first reading.

1542
04:28:06,520 --> 04:28:11,340
And second and third will be coming before the benefit of council.

1543
04:28:12,940 --> 04:28:16,220
I think in a couple of weeks, I could stand and be quite good by that.

1544
04:28:16,880 --> 04:28:20,300
All right, are there any further questions?

1545
04:28:22,100 --> 04:28:23,220
Councillor Grumman.

1546
04:28:25,320 --> 04:28:26,160
It's one of their questions.

1547
04:28:26,500 --> 04:28:33,080
Then in terms of other markets here, are these items within the by-law,

1548
04:28:33,220 --> 04:28:35,260
consistent with what we're seeing in other communities?

1549
04:28:35,260 --> 04:28:36,180
So,

1550
04:28:38,300 --> 04:28:40,460
cows are Johnson, or pardon me too.

1551
04:28:40,600 --> 04:28:42,040
There are Johnson's accounts in Baruma.

1552
04:28:43,100 --> 04:28:47,880
Yes, e-sgooters have been growing a popularity throughout Alberta.

1553
04:28:48,500 --> 04:28:55,360
Since our first season, my son, our area has been reached up by many other municipalities

1554
04:28:55,360 --> 04:28:58,240
on the successes and challenges of our first season.

1555
04:28:58,840 --> 04:29:02,520
So, we are, along with them, in Calgary, setting some of that bar,

1556
04:29:03,000 --> 04:29:06,560
and we are in major very different structure compared to most.

1557
04:29:06,560 --> 04:29:09,920
So that is peak the interest of many different units of palliades.

1558
04:29:10,760 --> 04:29:14,640
So I think we are, you know, setting that bar and people are coming to us.

1559
04:29:14,740 --> 04:29:17,620
We're inviting guidance on the successes and right here.

1560
04:29:21,120 --> 04:29:21,660
Thank you, professor.

1561
04:29:26,780 --> 04:29:28,060
I see your hand, councilmember.

1562
04:29:28,180 --> 04:29:28,300
We are.

1563
04:29:28,340 --> 04:29:29,700
Did you have another question?

1564
04:29:33,830 --> 04:29:34,410
You can answer it.

1565
04:29:34,510 --> 04:29:35,210
It's all good.

1566
04:29:37,270 --> 04:29:37,730
All right.

1567
04:29:37,990 --> 04:29:38,210
Council.

1568
04:29:38,270 --> 04:29:39,510
Let's just say we are.

1569
04:29:39,570 --> 04:29:40,190
First reading.

1570
04:29:40,510 --> 04:29:41,910
And I want to also write.

1571
04:29:43,530 --> 04:29:44,630
Would you be.

1572
04:29:44,630 --> 04:29:50,990
I don't want to be presumptive, but we're giving the host cake of asking for more information

1573
04:29:50,990 --> 04:29:57,410
around items for second and third reading and then, you know, proposing whatever you need,

1574
04:29:57,610 --> 04:29:59,050
or did you want to demand?

1575
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:01,860
Something on first shooting.

1576
04:30:02,860 --> 04:30:27,300
Something to amend something on first shooting. I am hoping, and the reason is, I want to amend it now, is so that, you know, if it passes, if it doesn't, then that's the will of council, but if it passes, then the amended version goes sort of, when it's a public consultation, but it goes to the public for, to provide input, as opposed to, if I wait until second, then there is no opportunity.

1577
04:30:28,060 --> 04:30:31,360
That's what I didn't want to be presented there for good news.

1578
04:30:31,560 --> 04:30:34,700
I mean, so, um,

1579
04:30:36,480 --> 04:30:39,400
City Park Wadwell today, today, and I'm not going to need a mover

1580
04:30:39,400 --> 04:30:43,580
and second or on the item, or have I yet to do that.

1581
04:30:43,620 --> 04:30:46,320
If you just reference me, I'm working on your new,

1582
04:30:46,920 --> 04:30:50,020
your new form today, so I'm doing my best here.

1583
04:30:50,180 --> 04:30:53,200
So if you do, we're going to be on the mover and second.

1584
04:30:53,500 --> 04:30:55,440
We do not currently have a mover or seconder.

1585
04:30:57,620 --> 04:31:03,560
I'm going to propose you this mover so that if you can speak to the item and I'll take

1586
04:31:03,560 --> 04:31:06,080
Council your dear friends as the second.

1587
04:31:09,600 --> 04:31:11,180
Both Council and I need to have the floor.

1588
04:31:11,480 --> 04:31:12,080
Thank you very much.

1589
04:31:12,420 --> 04:31:14,520
So before any comments, I want to propose.

1590
04:31:15,000 --> 04:31:18,480
I really have two significant lilies and there's like a sub for each one.

1591
04:31:18,660 --> 04:31:21,540
I'm so on page 112 of our agenda.

1592
04:31:22,160 --> 04:31:26,180
Under section 70 for 73.4.

1593
04:31:26,180 --> 04:31:40,960
It says a person less than 18 years old shall not operate in a scooter and I would like to amend that to say a person less than 14 years old shall not operate in a scooter.

1594
04:31:43,270 --> 04:31:47,710
And section 73.5,

1595
04:31:49,720 --> 04:31:55,840
a person less than 18 years old must wear a helmet to operate an e-scooter.

1596
04:31:56,420 --> 04:31:58,880
And to address the safety concerns of,

1597
04:32:01,780 --> 04:32:02,880
so that's the first one.

1598
04:32:03,000 --> 04:32:08,740
And then the second one is nearly reflecting the same concept in the finds schedule,

1599
04:32:08,980 --> 04:32:11,180
which is down the page 141.

1600
04:32:11,860 --> 04:32:15,480
Well, I think we'll take you first and then just we'll play with you.

1601
04:32:17,260 --> 04:32:18,840
So thank you for that.

1602
04:32:19,360 --> 04:32:22,240
We will be able to capture that just city clerk Robo.

1603
04:32:24,800 --> 04:32:26,200
Yes, we were Mayor Johnson.

1604
04:32:26,800 --> 04:32:29,360
Just to ensure that we're all on the same page here.

1605
04:32:30,660 --> 04:32:32,360
Council, this is an amending by-laws.

1606
04:32:32,560 --> 04:32:33,880
So we are actually amending the by-law.

1607
04:32:33,940 --> 04:32:36,180
I found on page 67 of your agenda.

1608
04:32:36,820 --> 04:32:40,640
So we will be amending Section 2 of the amending by-law.

1609
04:32:40,980 --> 04:32:43,760
As Council, I am outlined under Section 2.

1610
04:32:43,760 --> 04:32:49,760
And 73.4 by deleting 18 and replacing it with 14 and by inserting a new clause 73.5,

1611
04:32:50,580 --> 04:32:55,640
a person is the less than 18 years old must wear a helmet while operating an e-scooter.

1612
04:32:56,140 --> 04:32:59,720
And I would just recommend that we turn to administration to ensure that those amendments

1613
04:32:59,720 --> 04:33:01,120
would be enforceable.

1614
04:33:06,240 --> 04:33:10,420
Mayor Johnson, in regards to the piece and the age restrictions,

1615
04:33:11,280 --> 04:33:14,680
I do have significant concerns reducing this on the fly rate.

1616
04:33:14,680 --> 04:33:19,560
Now, and I do believe that Council does require further information prior to begin the

1617
04:33:19,560 --> 04:33:20,080
decision.

1618
04:33:21,120 --> 04:33:29,220
I'm seeing that in regards to the legalities of it, so I would really prefer not to include

1619
04:33:29,220 --> 04:33:33,720
that this evening so that we can provide further information to Council in regards to that

1620
04:33:33,720 --> 04:33:34,220
component.

1621
04:33:34,960 --> 04:33:41,380
And I will turn it back over to Ms. Things that in regards to the component of health

1622
04:33:41,380 --> 04:33:42,140
elements.

1623
04:33:47,100 --> 04:33:51,460
So did you want to weigh in before I speak in further?

1624
04:33:52,520 --> 04:33:55,100
Sure, and regards to the comments on helmets.

1625
04:33:55,540 --> 04:33:58,440
So we would have to align with the conventional regulatory requirements

1626
04:33:58,440 --> 04:34:01,020
for the minimum age of helmets being mandatory.

1627
04:34:01,740 --> 04:34:04,440
We would have to add clarification about the age

1628
04:34:04,440 --> 04:34:07,020
in which mandatory helmets is not required.

1629
04:34:07,280 --> 04:34:09,120
Morely a recommendation.

1630
04:34:10,140 --> 04:34:13,280
So, for example, we would not be able to require

1631
04:34:13,280 --> 04:34:16,320
18-year-olds require a helmet law operating in east corner.

1632
04:34:16,320 --> 04:34:19,800
So we would need to align with that policy as well,

1633
04:34:19,800 --> 04:34:22,180
but currently prevention regulation as well.

1634
04:34:23,840 --> 04:34:26,540
The answer I can catch that Mr. Mayor,

1635
04:34:27,000 --> 04:34:31,080
the proposal that I'm putting forward is for anyone under 18.

1636
04:34:31,480 --> 04:34:33,960
So to align with the provincial requirement

1637
04:34:33,960 --> 04:34:38,160
for under 18 to where I am when writing a bike.

1638
04:34:45,420 --> 04:34:47,700
It's ready for the comment for me.

1639
04:34:47,880 --> 04:34:49,520
Let's take a look at that.

1640
04:34:49,520 --> 04:34:58,080
This under 18 should be okay. I'm just double-checking if it was 18 or 16 under the provincial regulations.

1641
04:35:08,380 --> 04:35:09,540
It's under 18.

1642
04:35:24,000 --> 04:35:32,060
Your Johnston, if I may, it will see my recommendation that if Council would be able to consider first reading today,

1643
04:35:32,520 --> 04:35:38,340
and pass this subsequent resolution directing administration to conduct further research in the areas of reducing age limits

1644
04:35:38,340 --> 04:35:43,300
and the introduction of how it provisions for younger age categories.

1645
04:35:44,140 --> 04:35:53,140
Then we would be able to ensure that we have time to consult with the necessary staff as well as legal to ensure that we would be able to enforce that in a by law.

1646
04:35:54,240 --> 04:35:55,300
Yes, thank you for that.

1647
04:35:55,300 --> 04:36:04,460
That is where I was going until I've great partners in a bit, really gave us their cautionary comments.

1648
04:36:04,740 --> 04:36:08,080
I couldn't really work that it is.

1649
04:36:08,080 --> 04:36:11,580
Yes, I really think it's amenable to you.

1650
04:36:11,680 --> 04:36:12,100
Councilor Hyme.

1651
04:36:12,260 --> 04:36:13,560
I haven't even asked for a second.

1652
04:36:14,320 --> 04:36:17,920
But if it is amenable to you, these items can be misunderstood.

1653
04:36:19,460 --> 04:36:22,140
So would that be amenable at this point in time?

1654
04:36:24,540 --> 04:36:31,640
If I could just ask the request, then if this decision is going to bring back information,

1655
04:36:32,380 --> 04:36:39,740
if they could bring it back with respect to putting that agent 14 and 16, and that way we have options.

1656
04:36:51,400 --> 04:36:52,120
Thank you.

1657
04:36:52,120 --> 04:37:03,860
We're only anticipating a first meeting and so on, so just sort of procedurally going here,

1658
04:37:04,760 --> 04:37:11,760
these would be comments I assume, not questions, and I can just sort of in that.

1659
04:37:12,100 --> 04:37:17,400
So I'll go to you, Councillor Warchus, go ahead.

1660
04:37:17,400 --> 04:37:24,920
Thank you very much for commenting on the legality that was one of my questions, but I'm

1661
04:37:24,920 --> 04:37:29,420
also wondering if in the research if you can also provide any doubt.

1662
04:37:30,000 --> 04:37:44,820
On, for other municipalities and eScudo programs for the age 14 to 18, I'm just curious on that. I know injuries were recorded in the report, but just curious in terms of that information as well if possible. Thank you, Mayor.

1663
04:37:45,700 --> 04:37:50,000
Thank you, Councillor. Councillor, Councillor, one stable and see you as well.

1664
04:37:51,720 --> 04:37:53,960
I'm just going to sort of add on to

1665
04:37:56,260 --> 04:37:59,120
a content amendments to the pipeline to re-interposing

1666
04:37:59,120 --> 04:38:00,340
more of that projection.

1667
04:38:00,660 --> 04:38:05,740
There's a way in which in this way we can separate the term that operates up

1668
04:38:10,060 --> 04:38:10,320
to the

1669
04:38:10,320 --> 04:38:10,920
middle of that.

1670
04:38:25,630 --> 04:38:32,550
Sir, the counselor administration, this is why we go through the meetings we do.

1671
04:38:33,210 --> 04:38:37,230
First reading typically is that please bring back the second and third.

1672
04:38:38,250 --> 04:38:39,970
And so thank you very much for that.

1673
04:38:39,970 --> 04:38:45,390
Also, I did you wish to add something more for us?

1674
04:38:45,790 --> 04:38:49,230
Yeah, I didn't believe I gave any comments as to my mind.

1675
04:38:50,410 --> 04:38:51,070
Yeah, thank you.

1676
04:38:52,130 --> 04:38:54,070
So for me, thank you to administration.

1677
04:38:54,330 --> 04:38:57,110
I think this is probably the better path to proceed

1678
04:38:57,110 --> 04:39:02,190
upon reflection in terms of gathering a little bit more information

1679
04:39:02,190 --> 04:39:05,770
for the comfort of council and myself included.

1680
04:39:07,110 --> 04:39:16,690
I'm just trying to address this huge, I don't want to call it hypocrisy, but it is a huge, significant problem in our community.

1681
04:39:16,930 --> 04:39:19,690
I mean, any other community, for that matter, frankly,

1682
04:39:22,670 --> 04:39:33,990
when a buy law or a contract between an individual and an instructor company, there's no person under the age of 18 can write.

1683
04:39:33,990 --> 04:39:54,670
And yet also we're locked throughout the entire course of the season, we saw hundreds under 18 writing and yet there's a problem so either we don't put it in our by-law and don't enforce it and just sort of let that hypocrisy carry on.

1684
04:39:55,410 --> 04:40:00,550
If we're putting our vitally better, we don't sure we're prepared to enforce it.

1685
04:40:00,730 --> 04:40:07,470
And I know that I am not at the $16.60 per fine for those writing under 18.

1686
04:40:07,910 --> 04:40:14,070
So I think this is something that we really need to consider in terms of a holistic approach to this.

1687
04:40:14,370 --> 04:40:16,790
When you think of why do we have this program?

1688
04:40:16,790 --> 04:40:39,090
It's for largely, it was 73%, it was for recreational use by, you know, often families who want to bring you to listen and have a family couple of, for two, three teenagers, all of the day I wanted to take the kids out, and now you can't go because, you know, you've got this restriction that's in the by-law that you risk $60 fine.

1689
04:40:39,090 --> 04:40:47,350
So, and I know that, you know, the response wise, well, we're not really not going to find, but I have a problem with that as well.

1690
04:40:48,010 --> 04:40:57,830
So, you know, we're going to put something on the books, then if you're laying the claws to have it on the books, if you're not prepared to enforce it.

1691
04:40:57,830 --> 04:41:16,830
Anyway, you know what I think about clause, to write a clause, you can be 14 with a helmet to fly and airplane solo 16, to write a mom pad 14, to write a motorcycle, along solo 16, and 12 years old to write a powered bike.

1692
04:41:16,830 --> 04:41:22,470
So, I appreciate that administration will bring back that information so that we can

1693
04:41:22,470 --> 04:41:28,430
review and make a sound decision and perhaps be industry leaders in terms of really

1694
04:41:28,430 --> 04:41:35,070
what is common sense for our public to utilize this wonderful recreational opportunity.

1695
04:41:37,740 --> 04:41:37,860
Thank you.

1696
04:41:37,860 --> 04:41:38,840
Thank you, Councillor Anya.

1697
04:41:39,020 --> 04:41:41,960
Further comment before I call the question on first reading.

1698
04:41:45,030 --> 04:41:55,650
Seeing one, I certainly will appreciate the report from administration and thank them for their further research as it comes second and third reading.

1699
04:41:56,190 --> 04:42:03,250
I'm sure we definitely haven't lost sight of what a significant good story this month for community last summer.

1700
04:42:03,250 --> 04:42:07,370
And the influence and the impetus into a game that I'm telling,

1701
04:42:07,650 --> 04:42:12,170
I mean remember a few weeks ago I gave a speech at the Chamber,

1702
04:42:13,090 --> 04:42:16,350
and I happened to be saying at the table,

1703
04:42:17,050 --> 04:42:19,430
one of these people companies,

1704
04:42:20,430 --> 04:42:23,550
and they indicated that the radio is now

1705
04:42:23,850 --> 04:42:28,550
their third largest market in the country, in the country,

1706
04:42:29,430 --> 04:42:31,510
which is a praying.

1707
04:42:32,370 --> 04:42:39,750
It's wonderful when you look at it for sure, when you consider where I'm

1708
04:42:39,750 --> 04:42:45,570
slugging the likes of the other ones of the world and so on, it's pretty

1709
04:42:45,570 --> 04:42:47,530
significant for sure.

1710
04:42:48,550 --> 04:42:52,330
So the space that I remember you coming last summer with a great deal

1711
04:42:52,330 --> 04:42:57,370
of enthusiasm, which you still seem to have today, which is a main

1712
04:42:57,370 --> 04:43:03,510
which is fantastic and reading this program to us and you know I looked at some of the

1713
04:43:03,510 --> 04:43:09,430
demographics I see my age group is only about 8% you know we still have that broken

1714
04:43:09,430 --> 04:43:15,190
ankle syndrome kind of thing but I should get back on as a scooter I wrote one very

1715
04:43:15,190 --> 04:43:21,210
briefly last year and perhaps I'll get back on the issue so Council will call a question

1716
04:43:21,210 --> 04:43:24,350
on first reading is reading what opposed to first reading.

1717
04:43:25,230 --> 04:43:25,970
Thank you, Kouser.

1718
04:43:27,150 --> 04:43:28,750
That carries by maturity.

1719
04:43:29,170 --> 04:43:32,390
So we will have second reading with those additional research

1720
04:43:32,390 --> 04:43:36,250
of items for us when they return in a few weeks.

1721
04:43:36,290 --> 04:43:38,470
Thank you very much for that.

1722
04:43:38,970 --> 04:43:42,190
Kouser, we have one final item that,

1723
04:43:42,230 --> 04:43:44,130
to the length, we will have at this point in time.

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And that is the business horizon

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I will look, I wonder,

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04:43:56,440 --> 04:43:59,580
honestly, I'm going to the City Manager, so the City Clerk

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04:43:59,580 --> 04:44:00,500
Rod will continue.

1728
04:44:01,300 --> 04:44:04,980
I believe that resolution is on page two of our in-camera agenda.

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04:44:05,180 --> 04:44:10,780
I wonder if you can read that into the record and I will call for a mover and seconder.

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04:44:17,080 --> 04:44:20,920
Resolve the Council of the City of Reddier, having considered the report from City Planning

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04:44:20,920 --> 04:44:28,660
in growth, dated February 14th, 2022, re-Annexation, hereby endorses option 1, and the notice

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04:44:28,660 --> 04:44:33,640
of intent to annex as shown in Appendix A. I do just want to flag for our members of the

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04:44:33,640 --> 04:44:38,280
Dealing Public and for our media that administration will be releasing an associated report

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04:44:38,280 --> 04:44:44,040
to go along with this recommendation to ensure that the clarity as demonstrated by the

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04:44:44,040 --> 04:44:47,200
resolution indicating Appendix A will be provided to them shortly.

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04:44:53,730 --> 04:44:58,990
I'm assuming the report to the record saying Council has a copy of what we're going to say.

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04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:04,220
In a separate report, you are emailing out of council, can you help me with that?

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04:45:06,400 --> 04:45:13,320
Mayor Johnston is the same report that council has already received, but by adding it to this open agenda, we will be releasing information publicly.

1739
04:45:14,460 --> 04:45:16,120
Yeah, very good. Thank you for that.

1740
04:45:16,780 --> 04:45:22,940
Did you need you to recess for five minutes while you do that, or are you comfortable with this proceeding at this point in time?

1741
04:45:23,500 --> 04:45:26,080
Mayor Johnston, we are comfortable with you proceeding at this point in time.

1742
04:45:26,080 --> 04:45:34,600
very good. Thank you very much for that. So, Council, on the draw, I have a counselor,

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04:45:34,840 --> 04:45:41,460
a Dirkson Dirkson, forgive me, Council. Secondly, by Councilor Anity, on that particular

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04:45:41,460 --> 04:45:50,720
matter, and I'm going to our senior manager, Lord Witt, for her comments, and specifically

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04:45:50,720 --> 04:45:52,240
with report issues.

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04:45:54,640 --> 04:45:55,340
Thank you, Mayor Johnson.

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04:45:55,740 --> 04:45:59,520
Good afternoon, Mayor and Council and administration who is here with us.

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04:45:59,620 --> 04:46:06,220
We have several members that have joined particularly for this item, as well as

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04:46:06,220 --> 04:46:09,520
I know there's members of our public who are watching.

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04:46:10,880 --> 04:46:15,700
Our role as administration is to look ahead and be ready for the white

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feature that we have in red deer and our region.

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We know from economic forecasts that growth is forecasted for our region and for the province.

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We believe in creating jobs and economic development is important for our region

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04:46:32,580 --> 04:46:36,500
and we need to be making decisions that facilitate that.

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04:46:37,480 --> 04:46:42,440
Working to growth in our future, it takes time.

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04:46:43,340 --> 04:46:46,520
What you want to see is a recommendation to do an annexation.

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In doing an annexation, the process is legislated and we need to start now ahead of when we expect to see those buildings erected and coming out of the ground.

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Our recommendation today is that we make the public leave our intentions to do an annexation for highway funding commercial to the north-west of our city.

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This is step one in a legislative process.

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So today council, if you support a recommendation, we will be giving notice slowly to start the process.

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This will begin discussions with the county, our public, and the landowners in this area.

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I'm really grateful and wanted to take some time to say thanks for the work of prior councils in preparing the wonderful IDP that we have in place.

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and that's our intermediary civil development plan.

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It's been in place for over 10 years,

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and it showed a growth area

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and had formulas on when we can grow

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and what that process looks like

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in working with our neighbor.

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We are at a point in time where we need to take the steps

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to initiate growth into the city's growth area

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as identified and not planned.

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When you think to our staff

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and our major projects planner, David Jordan, who has worked to do the analysis as well as the

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data to bring us here today. So Mr. Jordan, a major projects planner, has a formal presentation

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that he will provide to council. So over to you, Mr. Jordan.

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Thank you, Chair.

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City Manager. Now if I can get legislative services to bring up the presentation,

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council. I'm

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excited to be here today to bring this opportunity forward to you. As we've been working on

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Examining exploration of annexation for a long time, and so I'm happy to finally bring this here to you today in public.

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If I move to the next slide,

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so a city manager, little indicated, is that we are recommending the council endorse a notice of intent in your package so that we can begin that annexation process.

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Next slide please.

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So in exploring annexation, administration has looked at a variety of different scenarios.

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And so our IDP right now, based on the calculations in there, indicate that we have 18.3 years of available land supply.

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Any time that we're both 30 years of land, we are able to begin an annexation process with the county.

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And we have deferred the pass, but we are now recommending that you proceed forward with that with this proposed annexation.

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We'll see though we also do a variety of other calculations on how much land we have available.

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And so we do regular calculations on how much residential commercial and industrial land is available.

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So you'll see that we don't need just any commercial land right now.

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04:49:58,200 --> 04:50:00,560
We have a lot of commercial land around our city.

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What we don't have is that strategic highway-friendly commercial land.

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And so this is an opportunity for us to annex some of those lands with developers who's able

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willing and ready in the wings.

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And so you'll see within our city growth area within the IDP.

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This is one of the last few remaining areas where we can annex more highway-friendly commercial.

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or just highway-frenking land.

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And so within right-dear, our entire boundary within the city

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is built up along that highway-too area.

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And so this is the reasonable reposings small annexation today.

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Next slide, Chase.

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So I'm sure you all saw the recent statistics

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Canada data that was released just a few days ago.

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And so this was great for me to see,

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because it shows that we're still growing at a steady

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04:50:53,440 --> 04:50:55,060
but slow rate before, and it also

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04:50:55,060 --> 04:50:59,260
of course the recommendation for a small annexation versus a big annexation. It wasn't

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a surprise to us to see that we were growing at that slower rate, but we also want to

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prepare the city manager who had indicated for that future economic development that's coming

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and prepared for those types of development opportunities that might come as a population increase.

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There's population growth increases. Next slide please.

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So the area that we're proposing for annexation

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is this yellow square or this yellow triangle against in the northwest of the city.

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It is adjacent to our already approved, so within the city on the east side of the highway,

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is a habit residential area, which has a gap in a restricted fund previously approved by council,

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and also north of the Queens industrial business park. Next slide please.

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So the question is why this area? There's a few really good pieces that make this area just work for us.

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So with any IDP like I said, it is one of the last areas of the land that we can annex that would be suitable for highway-front and commercial development.

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Two of it also, we have the infrastructure in place so that the truck services for sanitary water are already in place.

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So we make the servicing of this area relatively easy to accommodate rather than having to run new truck services somewhere else.

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Now there's a huge opportunity to benefit not only for the city but for the region as a whole

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I think that a fit from a development in this area at the intersection of two major highways.

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As well as, like I said, we're preparing for that future economic growth that come.

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So I think one of the benefits of right-dearing why we saw our population continue to grow.

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So we are on that Edmonton County corridor, and this is an opportunity to take advantage of our location along that corridor.

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So just for some clarity, the image on the right is not the layout that will still have to come to council.

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04:52:56,260 --> 04:53:02,440
at a future date once annexation is approved and finalized is that there is this that would

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04:53:02,440 --> 04:53:06,440
stop the developer statutory plan update our major in your structure plans. So this is just

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a hypothetical layout so just so that the public is not confused that this area isn't already

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been decided and developed as a bad still Council's program in the future when that time comes.

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Next slide please.

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So within your Council package which will be available to the public as well

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there is a notice of intent to annex the land, and this is a very structured document based

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on requirements by the land property rights tribunal.

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So with the MDMGA, so within here we have the description of the land, which I've just provided,

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the justification for annexation, which largely relies is around the need for high-referting

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commercial land.

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We also outline our public consultation program, so both for the landowners and for the

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public, throughout the annexation process, it's aligning this document.

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And if you can endorse today's, if you endorse it, we can today, that will then endorse

1841
04:54:01,350 --> 04:54:06,830
what will be included in the Norse Intent, and lastly, a list of the authorities that

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04:54:06,830 --> 04:54:11,650
need to be notified of this process, and the annexation principles which are outlined by the

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formal program, which is going to go over to still be used by the land propagatorates tribunal.

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Next slide, please.

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So, we have Council on Dorses and Norse Intent today, the next steps will be for us,

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to begin on that report on negotiation process. So culminates with what we call a report in negotiations,

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then that document is what we give to the land-prepared struggle. It's for them to decide whether

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we need to have hearing or whether they, it's uncontested, they move directly to a recommendation

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to the minister. So in that report report negotiations process, this will be the first in-game

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thread you're counting and begin the negotiations with them to ensure that we are all in the same

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page and that we have a great pond parameters for the annexation and then we will move into

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the public and line the consultation process which will then come in with that report

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as I have been indicated and then we move on to the line proper extra eunuchs processes.

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So we are looking for an effect of annexation date as I described in our IDP of September 1st

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2023.

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Next slide please. So I'll conclude by just repeating our recommendations from

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administration is to endorse the endorsement entity to allow us to begin the annexation process.

1858
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Thank you very much. I'm Councilman, if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer.

1859
04:55:28,720 --> 04:55:33,640
Thank you Mr. Drone. I'll just wait for the first one to come up here. We are

1860
04:55:36,260 --> 04:55:37,620
questions of council

1861
04:55:37,620 --> 04:55:39,480
from Mr. Drone at this point.

1862
04:55:46,010 --> 04:55:50,670
I'm not seeing any, so our city clerk is ready to be resolution.

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into the report and moved by Councillor Doucher and Secondary by Councillor Lee.

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And I will invite to comments before calling the question.

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Councillor Seenwood, would you proceed with comments?

1866
04:56:04,730 --> 04:56:05,410
Councillor Lillan, please.

1867
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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1868
04:56:09,820 --> 04:56:15,900
So, thank you for the report and the heard work that went into that report for years prior

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to the public is hearing today, so it is, Mr. Mayor, with tremendous excitement and

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participation, that I learned my strong support to this notice of the annexation

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application.

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When I think about the challenging economic and social environment that we have

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lived through, particularly over the last few years of COVID, the prospect of stimulating

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economic growth, job creation, financial security to individuals and families, as well as

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04:56:47,650 --> 04:56:53,070
greater entertainment and corporate retail opportunities for our public and beyond.

1876
04:56:54,090 --> 04:57:00,070
To me, this is just a phenomenal, local and regional boom to the redder area.

1877
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In terms of access and visibility from the highway, this location is ideal with the intersection

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of the QEW at Highway 118, and potentially hopefully all of this needs to be worked

1879
04:57:15,650 --> 04:57:22,670
down the road, but hopefully a second more normally at this point as well. So to wrap up, Mr. Mayor

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all said, this is the kind of growth and investment that our nation not only welcomes with open arms,

1881
04:57:31,830 --> 04:57:39,610
but is actively solicits to promote economic rejuvenation in these challenging times for all of us.

1882
04:57:39,710 --> 04:57:41,050
Thank you. I'm excited.

1883
04:57:42,250 --> 04:57:42,630
Thank you.

1884
04:57:42,630 --> 04:57:45,850
So I'm very well-said counselor, Jeffree's.

1885
04:57:49,740 --> 04:57:51,920
You're witted counselor, Jeffree's.

1886
04:57:56,020 --> 04:57:57,100
Customer, Jeffree's here.

1887
04:57:57,160 --> 04:57:58,060
We remain muted.

1888
04:58:04,830 --> 04:58:05,130
Good news.

1889
04:58:09,650 --> 04:58:12,450
To Jeffree's, I'm going to counselor Lee.

1890
04:58:13,430 --> 04:58:18,050
I know I get a low patchy man, don't you worry.

1891
04:58:18,970 --> 04:58:20,870
I'm going to go to counselor Lee in the interim,

1892
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and we will get you patched in counselor.

1893
04:58:23,690 --> 04:58:24,530
We'll come back.

1894
04:58:24,730 --> 04:58:25,490
How's your name?

1895
04:58:26,030 --> 04:58:28,630
Thank you, Mayor Johnson, and I just thought

1896
04:58:28,630 --> 04:58:30,610
I'd feel that awkward gap.

1897
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It's a culture reference try and just like the weirdest of times that happens.

1898
04:58:37,030 --> 04:58:45,350
But certainly this for us is something that I look at very positively and I would emphasize

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that this is a real win for the region and I'm looking forward to the support and

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specifically of Redger County and how this initiative is moving forward.

1901
04:58:59,810 --> 04:59:06,790
This is an area that, you know, we haven't seen a lot of growth in past few decades.

1902
04:59:07,610 --> 04:59:15,290
Our Northwest area of our city's jurisdiction in boundaries certainly will welcome that

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04:59:15,290 --> 04:59:23,730
and that ability to create some vibrancy in that area for city, for sure.

1904
04:59:24,230 --> 04:59:28,670
It's a great start to process that is very early.

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04:59:29,570 --> 04:59:31,190
I'm highly optimistic at this point,

1906
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but as things have shown us in the past,

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04:59:35,050 --> 04:59:39,390
it's never done deal until those buildings and shovels are going in the ground

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and things are moving,

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But I'm really, really conformed to that happening, of course, of the next year and a half or so.

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So thank you for that, Mayor Johnson, and looking to this great regional project.

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Seeing how it grows redder into the future.

1912
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Thank you, Councillor Lee. Councillor Chair for the service table. Disabled.

1913
05:00:14,240 --> 05:00:20,800
Yes, I see you are. I did get your message. Thank you for that. Councillor Durks.

1914
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If you are, I just would like a couple of comments that I motioned asked for the question

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05:00:28,520 --> 05:00:36,480
of clear, well-hurtation of exclamation to the public and hopefully this way is a very

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05:00:36,480 --> 05:00:38,360
less important of this than exclamation.

1917
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My goal is speed to work, but it needs to be tempered with appropriate processes.

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So, maybe you could comment on the fact that if our COVID-19 colleagues are enthusiastic

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with proceeding with this, and if there is a way to accelerate this process earlier than

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September 1st, 2023.

1921
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Sure, I'll just go to meet a Mr. Joran, or Mr. Joran, or Mr. Joran, Mr. Joran.

1922
05:01:16,550 --> 05:01:17,770
Thank you, Mayor.

1923
05:01:18,510 --> 05:01:22,330
I'm going to pass this over to Mr. Jordan.

1924
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I will start by saying no that the communication lines are open with our county.

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We're working together on many things. We have regular monthly meetings between administration.

1926
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Council has regular meetings between councils.

1927
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And it is so important in that relationship between the city and the county.

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And so moving forward, that will be continuing and we will be working together, this opens the discussion, and there will need to be further conversations and discussions, as well as it allows us to have those consultations with our public and the landowners in the area.

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So, when I say this step one, it really is step one,

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to tell the date of what we hope

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is September of 2023.

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There are opportunities to expedite the process.

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However, at this point in time, we know that that consultation is key.

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And determining where we're at before we would even consider expediting the process.

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Mr. Jordan, anything to add.

1936
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I think you covered it very well, which we said manager, I would say that the administration is always looking to improve and increase the speed on most of what we do, including annexation, the little explorer, all opportunities as it relates to this application.

1937
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I

1938
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think Councillor Gerson needs to wish to continue your comments now.

1939
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That was awesome.

1940
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I thought that was important to be able to public domain.

1941
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Very good.

1942
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Thank you for that.

1943
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I want to take a final try of Councillor Jeffries.

1944
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To see if she's, no, I'm not, no.

1945
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All right.

1946
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Thank you, Councillor Jeffries.

1947
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Councillor Bernstable, go ahead.

1948
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Thank you, Mayor Johnson.

1949
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I actually, Councillor Jeffries put in the chat box,

1950
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which you want to face, but I wanted to read it out for her.

1951
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I'll try and use word for word, so I don't know what else the public can see the chat box

1952
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or not.

1953
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So, she was going to speak in favor, in her words, I think the highlight commercial is needed

1954
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great growth in economic development opportunity, could be a great place to try and transform

1955
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demand.

1956
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Thanks for the IDP and the relationship with the county.

1957
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So, that is what Councilor Jeffries was trying to get out, so I figured I'd speak on her

1958
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behalf.

1959
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And then just on my side of things I'm also in support, I'm really looking forward to it.

1960
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I wanted to take the time to thank our administration for working on this and especially even our path counsel.

1961
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I really appreciate the work that's gone in the past.

1962
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And I'm looking forward to seeing other's progressives.

1963
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And once again, just an exciting time for review and central burden general.

1964
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I'm going to just look forward to the positive before.

1965
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So very much in support.

1966
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Thank you.

1967
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Thank you.

1968
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or any further comments from council

1969
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not seeing any other first thing I believe to say is

1970
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if the public ever wanted to see a collective council get together to move the message

1971
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it was Councillor Brunswickville and Councillor Jeffries doing their best to help each other

1972
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through and so I'm reading it. It's good to see. It's great to see. Thank you so much.

1973
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And, you know, this is really, you know, I'm fond of saying, you know, that it's a great day to be a

1974
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vegetarian and it's a great day, we need to be a central Albert because, because this, this

1975
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annexation is really a central Albert of Alberta annexation, original annexation. I really appreciate the extensive work

1976
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our administration is placed into this. Certainly there are many hands that the goal and

1977
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contribute and lift the project like this. But if you know we, we handed off to our

1978
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full-back Mr. Jordan and he is able to bring that ball across for us and present us with

1979
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a wonderful report that he did to behave and so on behalf of council and all of our public.

1980
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Thank you so much for the efforts that they have brought to this particular project.

1981
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You know, I want to say how much I appreciate the original work that we're doing with

1982
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accounting colleagues on many areas.

1983
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This is one that we were obviously now as say manager, we were talked about the ability

1984
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to formally address the matter and negotiate a matter and so on, but you know we're getting

1985
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tremendous lift on issues like the airport and in issues like our hospital and we can see

1986
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and so forth which our county colleagues are lifting with us and I really really do appreciate

1987
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that and look forward to that. Your counselors have used the words vitality, transformational

1988
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excitement, and self-worth, and all of those are applicable.

1989
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If I'm living in central Alberta today, I'm really looking forward to this project for all of those reasons.

1990
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That's how great this particular initiative will go.

1991
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So we're starting down the road.

1992
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That we hope will conclude in about 17 months or so, 18 months or so,

1993
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in 2023, and we're certainly excited to buy that to say the least.

1994
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So, thank you very, very much, Council for your comments and administration once again.

1995
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So, I'll call the question there.

1996
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Any council is opposed to the resolution, as presented,

1997
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moved by Councilor Gerard, so in the second council, you need very many individuals.

1998
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We're being not opposed Council, that carries unanimously,

1999
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I'm going to say thank you.

2000
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Thank you very, very much for that. Council, that concludes Council Business today.

2001
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And looking forward, a motion to adjourn, I would

2002
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call on Councilor Wienchen, seconded by Councilor Bruma. Is there any Councillors opposed to adjournment? Seeing

2003
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Council we are adjourned and we will see you later in the week for a workshop soon.