[0:18] Y
[0:19] » You guys ready?
[0:22] » All right. I open the close session
[0:24] meeting today, September 14th, 2026.
[0:28] This time is 5 p.m.
[0:33] » Can I get a roll call, please?
[0:35] » Council member Miller
[0:36] » Here.
[0:36] » Council member Thorp
[0:37] » Here.
[0:38] » Council member Wolsey
[0:39] » Here. Deputy Mayor Beaver
[0:40] » Here.
[0:40] » Mayor Venibal
[0:41] » Here.
[0:42] » All present.
[0:43] » All right. Do we have any public
[0:44] comment?
[0:45] » We have no comments today.
[0:46] » Mayor, uh before you move on uh further
[0:48] in close session, I would ask that we
[0:50] add an item to the close session agenda.
[0:52] » Okay.
[0:52] » Um that would be real property
[0:54] negotiations related to the the Koi
[0:56] Builder's property.
[0:59] Um we received notification
[1:01] um after the posting of the agenda
[1:04] regarding an action that we need to take
[1:06] uh regarding the uh foreclosure sale of
[1:09] that property.
[1:10] » Okay. So you have to vote to add it to
[1:13] the agenda.
[1:14] » All right. Do you want to do a roll call
[1:16] vote or you want to just do a regular?
[1:18] » It doesn't matter to me.
[1:19] » Need a motion first.
[1:20] » You do.
[1:21] » I move that we add the item to the
[1:23] agenda.
[1:23] » Second.
[1:24] » I got a first and a second. All in
[1:26] favor?
[1:26] » I. Any opposed?
[1:29] » Okay.
[1:30] » Mayor, I have an item.
[1:31] » Yes, sir.
[1:32] » On the close session item that's listed,
[1:33] I think it's a uh currently, not the koi
[1:36] builder once. Want to make sure we we
[1:37] got that separated. I'll be recusing on
[1:39] that. I have a officially recused. I
[1:42] have a personal financial interest in
[1:43] that uh potential litigation. So, I will
[1:46] be uh missing that part of it. If you
[1:48] want to do the koi builders first, I can
[1:50] go in then come out or however you guys
[1:51] want to do it, let me know. So, I'll be
[1:53] recusing.
[1:55] » Okay.
[1:57] All right. No public comment.
[1:59] We'll move to close session. Time is
[2:02] 501.
[2:05] [clears throat]
[34:40] Okay, [laughter]
[34:44] » Sorry.
[34:46] I tell you what,
[34:48] » I just had my head in the clouds in the
[34:51] sand.
[34:53] [laughter]
[34:54] » They cancel.
[34:55] » All right. Are we ready?
[34:57] » We're ready.
[35:00] » Yes.
[35:01] » Are you guys ready? [laughter]
[35:03] [snorts]
[35:04] » All right. We'll open the special
[35:06] meeting on September 14, 2026.
[35:09] Time is 5:34.
[35:17] Do we do the pledge or? Yeah.
[35:21] Young lady, will you lead us in the
[35:22] pledge of alle allegiance?
[35:35] Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of
[35:38] the United States of America and to the
[35:41] republic for which it stands, one nation
[35:44] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[35:47] justice for all.
[35:48] » Bless you.
[35:52] » Thank you.
[35:55] [clears throat]
[36:00] » Can we get a roll call, please?
[36:01] » Council member Miller.
[36:04] here.
[36:05] » Council member Thorp
[36:06] » Here.
[36:07] » Council member Wolsey
[36:08] » Here. Deputy Mayor Baieber
[36:09] » Here.
[36:10] » Mayor Venibal
[36:10] » Here.
[36:11] » All present.
[36:12] » Okay. Do we have uh public comment?
[36:15] » No comments for this special meeting.
[36:17] » All right. Now we have the special uh
[36:20] presentation of the paramedic squad and
[36:22] the vehicles.
[36:26] Mayor Council, we're going to re go
[36:28] outside and meet with the uh the Yukapa
[36:31] Fire Department and introduce the
[36:32] council and the community to our new
[36:34] paramedic squad equipment and potential
[36:36] staffing that'll be staffing the new
[36:38] paramedic squad. And then we'll return
[36:40] back after by six o'clock and recommence
[36:42] the back to the regular meeting.
[36:44] » Okay.
[36:48] [clears throat]
[37:04] You can leave your ticket cover.
[37:16] Have you changed your diapers yet?
[37:21] You
[1:00:17] All right, Bob, you ready?
[1:00:20] Justin.
[1:00:22] [clears throat]
[1:00:22] » Okay.
[1:00:24] All right. Well, I'm going to adjourn
[1:00:25] the meeting and at 6 o'clock.
[1:00:32] » No, adjourn the adjourn the other
[1:00:34] meeting. Sorry, we had a a little one
[1:00:37] before and now I'm adjourning that one
[1:00:39] and I'm gonna start the new one. So, be
[1:00:43] patient with me.
[1:00:46] All right. So, now I call the order to
[1:00:48] the open regular uh city council
[1:00:51] successors housing authority meeting at
[1:00:54] September 14th, 2026.
[1:00:57] Time is six o'clock. Did I announce a
[1:01:00] time to the adjournment?
[1:01:02] Okay, good. All right,
[1:01:06] we'll have uh Pastor Vaughn and then
[1:01:12] Denise, will you lead us into the uh
[1:01:14] pledge of allegiance? Okay. All right.
[1:01:25] Let us pray.
[1:01:27] Heavenly Father, we acknowledge that you
[1:01:30] are the source of all authority, the
[1:01:33] author of peace and the giver of true
[1:01:35] strength. We pull back from the noise of
[1:01:38] the world and invite your deep grounding
[1:01:41] presence in this chamber tonight. Lord,
[1:01:45] we ask that you meet the hearts of the
[1:01:48] this council and this community together
[1:01:51] in absolute unity. remind us that
[1:01:54] despite our different perspective, we
[1:01:58] share a singular sacred purpose to love
[1:02:02] and serve the people of this beautiful
[1:02:05] city. Give our leaders the courage to
[1:02:08] listen with humility, the strength to
[1:02:11] speak with kindness, and the wisdom to
[1:02:15] seek the common common good above all
[1:02:18] else. Break down every wall of division
[1:02:21] and let your peace rule in every heart.
[1:02:24] Pour out your supernatural endurance
[1:02:27] upon our mayor, council members, and
[1:02:31] city staff. When the decisions are heavy
[1:02:34] and the paths are complex, anchor them
[1:02:37] in the truth and fortify them with your
[1:02:41] with integrity and wisdom.
[1:02:45] We ask for your protective hand over our
[1:02:48] neighborhoods, our local businesses, and
[1:02:50] the first responders who sacrifice daily
[1:02:54] to keep our city safe. May the work done
[1:02:57] here tonight heal what is broken,
[1:03:01] strengthen what is weary, and build a
[1:03:04] united future that brings honor to your
[1:03:07] name. This we pray in your most powerful
[1:03:10] name. Amen. Amen.
[1:03:14] Please join me
[1:03:20] to the flag of the United States of
[1:03:22] America and to the reps
[1:03:27] nation
[1:03:29] indivisible with liberty and justice for
[1:03:31] all.
[1:03:45] Miss Anna, can we get a roll call,
[1:03:46] please?
[1:03:47] » Council member Miller,
[1:03:48] » Here.
[1:03:48] » Council member Thorp
[1:03:50] » Here.
[1:03:50] » Council member Wolsey,
[1:03:51] » Here.
[1:03:51] » Deputy Mayor Beaver
[1:03:53] » Here.
[1:03:53] » Mayor Venibal
[1:03:54] » Here.
[1:03:54] » All present.
[1:03:56] » All right, Mr. Attorney, is there
[1:03:57] anything that
[1:04:00] » Uh Yes, Mayor. with uh item A on the
[1:04:03] close session agenda. Um the city
[1:04:06] council gave settlement direction or I
[1:04:09] guess litigation direction by consensus.
[1:04:11] Um on the item that we added to close
[1:04:15] session, the city council gave direction
[1:04:18] on the credit bid uh for the trustee
[1:04:21] sale. I can't go into what that specific
[1:04:24] direction is because it would compromise
[1:04:26] the successful auction of that property.
[1:04:29] Um, however, I did want to note that the
[1:04:31] vote on that item uh was 4 to one with
[1:04:35] council member Woolsey voting no.
[1:04:39] » Thank you.
[1:04:40] » Okay. Thank you,
[1:04:42] Dr. Moore.
[1:04:44] Are there any changes to the agenda?
[1:04:47] » Mayor Council, no changes to the agenda.
[1:04:50] » All right. So, now we have the National
[1:04:52] Senior Month presentation by Sarah
[1:05:01] You wanted me to say your last name,
[1:05:02] huh?
[1:05:02] » I was I was gonna demolish it here.
[1:05:05] [laughter]
[1:05:06] » Good evening, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and
[1:05:08] City Council. As we recognize National
[1:05:10] Senior Center Month, we're celebrating
[1:05:12] more than a facility or a calendar of
[1:05:14] programs. We're celebrating the people,
[1:05:17] the places, and the opportunities that
[1:05:19] help our older adults live well, connect
[1:05:22] well, and age well. That commitment is
[1:05:25] made possible through the work of many
[1:05:27] people throughout our community. And
[1:05:28] tonight, I'm pleased to introduce just a
[1:05:30] few of those individuals who help bring
[1:05:32] this vision to life. First, please join
[1:05:35] me in recognizing Park and Recreation
[1:05:37] Commission Chairperson Tara Van Grow.
[1:05:40] Our comm
[1:05:42] our commission plays an important role
[1:05:44] in supporting parks, recreation
[1:05:46] programs, and facilities that enhance
[1:05:48] the quality of life for our entire
[1:05:50] community, including older adults. Next,
[1:05:52] we have community services supervisor
[1:05:55] Vanessa Ormilio, whose area of
[1:05:57] supervision includes our senior center
[1:05:59] programs and services at the Shar
[1:06:02] Community Center. Vanessa and her team
[1:06:04] help provide a welcoming place where
[1:06:06] seniors can participate in programs,
[1:06:08] build relationships, and remain an
[1:06:09] active part of the community. We also
[1:06:12] have a couple of our wonderful, amazing
[1:06:14] part-time staff. So, if we can also
[1:06:17] introduce um Rebecca Ignu and Brad Blue.
[1:06:21] Their dedication and day-to-day
[1:06:23] interactions help create the welcoming
[1:06:24] environment and sense of community that
[1:06:26] our seniors experience when they visit
[1:06:28] our center. And last but not least,
[1:06:32] we have Natalie Ericson Harper, our
[1:06:35] gentle moves instructor, who is also
[1:06:36] with us this evening. Through her
[1:06:38] exercise classes, older adults have an
[1:06:40] opportunity to focus on mobility,
[1:06:42] strength, balance, and movement, all of
[1:06:45] which support healthy and active
[1:06:46] lifestyles. So, at this time, I am
[1:06:49] pleased to turn it over to Commissioner
[1:06:50] Van Grout.
[1:06:53] » Good evening, Mayor Vanal and Council
[1:06:55] members. I'm honored to be here this
[1:06:57] evening on behalf of the Park and
[1:06:58] Recreation Commission to acknowledge
[1:07:00] September's National Senior Center
[1:07:02] Month, as designated by the National
[1:07:04] Council on Aging. With roughly a third
[1:07:06] of our population being 55 or better, I
[1:07:09] think it's safe to say that the theme
[1:07:10] for this year's Senior Center Month,
[1:07:12] Happier Birthdays Happen Here, is one
[1:07:14] that we have taken to heart. In addition
[1:07:16] to providing our seniors with
[1:07:18] nutritional support through
[1:07:19] collaboration with family services
[1:07:21] association, the Sharer Center provides
[1:07:23] lowcost classes such as chair aerobics,
[1:07:26] weekly events like tomorrow's coffee and
[1:07:29] conversation 8:30 to 10:30, a variety of
[1:07:32] clubs such as paint and art, free
[1:07:34] vaccine and health clinics, and access
[1:07:36] to valuable resources. Informational
[1:07:38] events have included education on senior
[1:07:41] targeting scams, while our Golden Wheels
[1:07:43] program assists seniors 62 plus and
[1:07:45] disabled adults with transportation to
[1:07:48] the grocery store and on other errands
[1:07:50] within the city limits for an affordable
[1:07:52] yearly fee. But beyond what the center
[1:07:55] offers in terms of programming, I think
[1:07:56] it's essential that we highlight the
[1:07:58] importance of ensuring that our older
[1:08:00] population is provided with spaces that
[1:08:02] feel like home, where bonding is
[1:08:04] emphasized, needs are met, and
[1:08:05] engagement, and encouragement is
[1:08:07] assured. As it says on the National
[1:08:09] Council on Aging website, quote,
[1:08:11] "Happier birthdays don't start with
[1:08:13] candles or cake. They start with
[1:08:15] connection, purpose, support, and
[1:08:17] community." End quote. Investing in the
[1:08:19] lives of our senior population is
[1:08:21] investing in our community as a whole.
[1:08:24] In ensuring that we have a host of
[1:08:25] wiser, more experienced guidance and
[1:08:27] perspectives within our community, we
[1:08:29] are better positioned to make lasting,
[1:08:31] more responsible decisions while
[1:08:33] simultaneously remembering the history
[1:08:35] of how far we've come. In caring for our
[1:08:37] aging community, we treat our teach our
[1:08:39] children to do the same while also
[1:08:42] creating an environment in which we
[1:08:43] ourselves will also want to remain as we
[1:08:46] grow older. Providing for our seniors
[1:08:48] assures them that we are grateful to for
[1:08:50] the myriad contributions they have made
[1:08:52] and continue to make in Ukipa and
[1:08:54] beyond. The center and its programming
[1:08:56] represents some of the best of what our
[1:08:58] community represents both to ourselves
[1:09:00] and to those seeking to potentially make
[1:09:02] their home in Ukipa.
[1:09:04] In addition to thanking the community
[1:09:06] services department for their dedication
[1:09:07] to our seniors and the council for
[1:09:09] recognizing its importance, we would
[1:09:11] like to encourage senior residents who
[1:09:13] don't already to utilize the services
[1:09:15] provided. take a drop in class, join a
[1:09:17] club, participate in an activity. I'm
[1:09:20] hoping friendship bracelet making comes
[1:09:22] back or attend an event and in so doing
[1:09:24] know that you are absolutely valued as
[1:09:26] the anchors of our community. Thank you.
[1:09:31] » Thank you. Can we come up here and get a
[1:09:32] picture
[1:09:34] this first?
[1:09:34] » Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.
[1:09:36] » Yeah. Sorry about that.
[1:09:37] » No worry. Sorry. Proclamation of the
[1:09:39] city council of the city of Ukipa
[1:09:40] declaring the month of September 2026 as
[1:09:43] National Senior Citizen Month. live
[1:09:45] well, connect well, age well. Whereas
[1:09:48] September is recognized as National
[1:09:50] Senior Citizen Senior Center Month,
[1:09:52] celebrating the vital role senior
[1:09:54] centers play in helping older adults
[1:09:56] remain active, connected, healthy, and
[1:09:58] engaged in their communities. And
[1:10:00] whereas the 2026 theme, happier
[1:10:02] birthdays happen here, celebrates the
[1:10:04] friendships, experiences, opportunities,
[1:10:06] and meaningful connections that make
[1:10:07] each year of life richer and more
[1:10:09] fulfilling. And whereas programs such as
[1:10:13] Golden Wheels helps older adults remain
[1:10:15] connected to essential services,
[1:10:16] activities, and the communities they
[1:10:18] call home, while the sheer community
[1:10:20] center provides a place to gather, build
[1:10:22] friendships, learn, celebrate, and
[1:10:24] create lasting memories. And whereas
[1:10:27] National Senior Center Month provides an
[1:10:29] opportunity to recognize and celebrate
[1:10:30] the people, programs, and connections
[1:10:32] that make senior centers places where
[1:10:34] older adults can live well, connect
[1:10:36] well, age well, and where happier
[1:10:38] birthdays happen here. Now therefore be
[1:10:41] it proclaimed that the city council of
[1:10:42] the city of Ukipa, California hereby
[1:10:44] recognizes September 2026 as national
[1:10:47] senior center month celebrates the older
[1:10:50] adults who enrich our community and
[1:10:52] honors the dedicated individuals who
[1:10:54] help make Ukipas senior services a place
[1:10:56] where friendships, purpose, connection,
[1:10:59] and happier birthdays happen here every
[1:11:01] day. It is signed by the Ukipa City
[1:11:02] Council and the seal of the city is
[1:11:04] affixed here onto
[1:11:08] [applause]
[1:11:52] » [applause]
[1:11:54] » Hang on. One more picture. One more
[1:11:56] picture. Go ahead. [laughter]
[1:11:59] » Sorry.
[1:12:06] [laughter]
[1:12:08] » Hey, thank you guys.
[1:12:19] » I was like, I was gonna say it.
[1:12:43] » [clears throat]
[1:12:47] » All right. Well, thank you guys very
[1:12:48] much. Uh, yaps dog of the month. Here
[1:12:55] we go.
[1:13:06] » Oh my gosh.
[1:13:08] » Hi, my name is Sarra. I'm with Yaps.
[1:13:12] [laughter]
[1:13:13] » I have Astro. He's only a year and eight
[1:13:16] months. He's still very excited to meet
[1:13:18] everyone.
[1:13:22] Um, he's up for adoption right now.
[1:13:24] Yeah. Along with a bunch of other dogs.
[1:13:26] We got some a lot of big dogs right now,
[1:13:28] but we got some cute little shepherd
[1:13:29] puppies and everyone would love to meet
[1:13:31] you guys. I also want to invite you guys
[1:13:34] to Bets for Pets. It's October 17th.
[1:13:36] It's our 15th one. It's casino night, so
[1:13:39] it is 21 and up. And we've got dinner,
[1:13:43] raffle prizes, and just a full night of
[1:13:45] events and lots of fun. And please come
[1:13:49] and join us.
[1:13:50] » All right. Get a picture with Astro.
[1:13:52] » Yeah, I might as well get a picture with
[1:13:54] Matt Astro.
[1:13:55] » Oh, and he's a great Dane Pitty mix.
[1:13:58] » Yeah,
[1:14:05] » You can bring
[1:14:26] » [laughter]
[1:14:27] » All right,
[1:14:34] » There you go. There you go.
[1:14:35] » Awesome. Take some good
[1:14:42] cutie.
[1:14:43] to the home.
[1:14:52] » Okay.
[1:15:02] [clears throat]
[1:15:10] Okay,
[1:15:13] Miss City Clerk, do we have uh public
[1:15:16] comment?
[1:15:16] » Yes, Mayor, we do. We'll start with
[1:15:18] Denise Allen, followed by Daniel
[1:15:19] Hernandez.
[1:15:39] Good evening, council members and
[1:15:41] honorable mayor. I want to begin by
[1:15:44] first of all thanking the city council
[1:15:46] and the city staff for hosting such a
[1:15:49] heartfelt 911 event um last Friday.
[1:15:55] Yeah, we we shall never forget
[1:15:59] Um, I am here speaking on item number
[1:16:02] 12. The mayor was um, nice to allow me
[1:16:06] to speak because I can't stand for very
[1:16:08] long. So, please allow me to indulge you
[1:16:11] on item number 12. I stand before you
[1:16:14] tonight with an ask that you please
[1:16:17] consider coordinating our annual Make a
[1:16:20] Difference Day activities and events. As
[1:16:23] noted in your agenda staff report, Make
[1:16:25] a Difference Day has been a part of our
[1:16:27] community for more than 14 years. It
[1:16:31] actually began in 2007 with a great
[1:16:34] clean air planting project, which added
[1:16:38] 300 trees at Flagill Park and 100 trees
[1:16:41] along both sides of 13th Street from
[1:16:43] Yakipa Boulevard to Oak Glenn Road.
[1:16:46] It's held on the fourth Saturday in
[1:16:48] October. Make a difference day. It
[1:16:50] reminds us that we can create meaningful
[1:16:53] change. The event has brought our
[1:16:55] community together through acts of
[1:16:57] kindness and service and has definitely
[1:17:00] la left a lasting positive impact. Local
[1:17:04] volunteer projects such as planting
[1:17:06] trees, sk street streetscape
[1:17:08] beautifification and facility cleanups
[1:17:11] demonstrate how collective action can
[1:17:14] make a meaningful difference. I compiled
[1:17:17] a list of projects since 2007 up to 2020
[1:17:20] and I provided that to council and a
[1:17:23] spreadsheet. I love spreadsheets. And um
[1:17:26] I'm just going to highlight a few of
[1:17:28] those projects from that spreadsheet. As
[1:17:31] I said, we added 300 trees at Flag Hills
[1:17:34] Park, 100 along 13th Street. We planted
[1:17:37] we have planted over 350 trees as
[1:17:40] volunteers at Elorado Ranch. We planted
[1:17:43] over 202 trees and 74 shrubs at the 13th
[1:17:47] Street Sports Complex. Also, an amazing
[1:17:51] thing that happened in 2015 was the uh
[1:17:54] installation of 60,000 square feet of
[1:17:56] sod and that was done by all volunteers
[1:17:59] in the baseball fields. We planted 43
[1:18:02] trees around Chapman Heights and Sand
[1:18:05] Canyon over there by the ballparks. We
[1:18:08] planted 93 trees along Wildwood Canyon
[1:18:10] Road. We added 39 trees and 16 shrubs at
[1:18:14] Seventh Street Park along with a variety
[1:18:17] of other projects there. We planted 49
[1:18:19] trees and we also hand seated wild fly
[1:18:22] wild flowers along the slopes of Dun
[1:18:24] Dunlap Channel. We added 20 new trees
[1:18:26] and 30 shrubs along Yikipa Boulevard in
[1:18:29] front of Yukipa High School. We planted
[1:18:32] 19 trees at the Yukipa Community Park
[1:18:34] and 16 trees at Wildwood Canyon Park. 12
[1:18:38] trees and 10 shrubs along Oakland Road.
[1:18:41] three new oak trees at Yabs. Can I
[1:18:44] continue?
[1:18:46] » Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
[1:18:47] » We completed a major trail restoration
[1:18:49] in the Oakland basin and painted several
[1:18:52] interior walls at the sheer center. We
[1:18:54] also repainted the garage and planted
[1:18:56] lots of shrubs in the recognition garden
[1:18:59] at the historic fire station. We
[1:19:02] installed new saw and planted benches at
[1:19:04] the Avenue A Park or Avenue I park. And
[1:19:07] then we completed several landscape
[1:19:09] improvement projects in our historic
[1:19:10] uptown. On average, the city has
[1:19:13] invested approximately $22,000 each year
[1:19:16] in Make a Difference Day projects. And I
[1:19:18] believe that investment has delivered
[1:19:20] meaningful returns.
[1:19:22] The various projects I've highlighted
[1:19:24] have added more than 1,250
[1:19:27] trees and 150 shrubs in various
[1:19:30] locations throughout our small town. a
[1:19:33] visible improvement we all can enjoy
[1:19:35] every single day. Still, a successful
[1:19:38] make a difference day requires more than
[1:19:40] coordination among community members and
[1:19:42] volunteer or organizations. It really
[1:19:45] does require a strong centralized
[1:19:48] leadership. Make a Difference Day gives
[1:19:50] you, our mayor and city council members,
[1:19:54] an annual opportunity to bring our
[1:19:56] residents together around a shared goal,
[1:19:59] that of strengthening our community. As
[1:20:02] leaders of our remarkable small town, I
[1:20:06] urge you to secure the funding and
[1:20:07] provide the leadership needed to
[1:20:09] coordinate citywide efforts and make the
[1:20:12] 2026 Make a Difference Day another
[1:20:16] successful community focused event. I
[1:20:20] thank you for listening and I thank you
[1:20:21] for allowing me to speak on this item.
[1:20:23] » Thank you. Thank you.
[1:20:28] » Daniel Hernandez followed by Hansen
[1:20:30] Wong.
[1:20:32] Mayor, please.
[1:20:34] » Sure. Can Can we uh I'm gonna just hold
[1:20:36] you just for one second. Go ahead, Bob.
[1:20:38] » Thank you, sir. Denise, I just want to
[1:20:40] say I know you're not 100% right now and
[1:20:43] I know how active you are, but I saw you
[1:20:44] at the 911 ceremony and then you're here
[1:20:47] advocating for the good causes of what
[1:20:49] prior councils have done that was great
[1:20:51] for our town. Thank you for what you do
[1:20:54] and thank you for having the heart of
[1:20:55] Yakypa. You always have and uh planting
[1:20:58] trees is a good thing. Uh, and I
[1:21:01] appreciate you bringing it up. I know we
[1:21:02] normally don't con comment on public
[1:21:04] comment, but this is actually a positive
[1:21:07] thing. So, I just want to give you your
[1:21:09] your due. You you've always had your
[1:21:10] heart in doing the right thing here. So,
[1:21:12] thank you.
[1:21:14] [applause]
[1:21:16] » Thank you, Bob. I'm sorry, sir. Go
[1:21:18] ahead. Absolutely.
[1:21:23] » All right. So, my name is uh Daniel
[1:21:24] Hernandez. I'm off of uh County Line and
[1:21:26] Messa Grande. So, Mr. Mayor, members of
[1:21:29] the council, city manager, staff, first,
[1:21:31] thank you. Governing a city is hard.
[1:21:33] Balancing budgets, state mandates,
[1:21:36] public pressure, and competing visions
[1:21:38] for the future is not a nineto-ive job.
[1:21:40] You show up, you take the heat, and I
[1:21:42] respect that. But respect doesn't mean
[1:21:44] silence. Our 2016 general plan is
[1:21:47] crystal clear. It declares your kao the
[1:21:49] jewel of the empire. It lists
[1:21:51] financially responsibility and
[1:21:53] responsive governance as a cornerstone
[1:21:56] stone. It calls for quality businesses
[1:21:58] that deliver quality jobs and retail. It
[1:22:01] specifically directs the city to
[1:22:03] capitalize on commercial and industrial
[1:22:05] opportunities along our I 10 corridor in
[1:22:08] balance with everything else that we
[1:22:10] value. Yet, here we are. We've watched a
[1:22:13] sales tax measure fail. We've approved
[1:22:15] and then later resigned major freeway
[1:22:17] corridors updates after a tense public
[1:22:19] push back. We've adopted annual goals
[1:22:22] and hope budget workshops. But yet we
[1:22:24] lack a clear multi-year financial
[1:22:26] strategy that ties the general plan
[1:22:28] vision to real numbers and choices. To
[1:22:31] our city manager, I would ask that we
[1:22:33] step up, bring the council to a real
[1:22:35] case, a long-term financial plan that
[1:22:37] shows exactly how we're to fund the
[1:22:39] jewel that we can be. Not just this
[1:22:41] year's deficit, not next year's deficit,
[1:22:43] but a true plan for the next 5, 10
[1:22:45] years. And to our council, I do ask that
[1:22:47] we start looking at that plan and start
[1:22:50] not just reacting to day-to-day, but to
[1:22:52] actually get a financial plan going. My
[1:22:55] wife and I and my daughter, we've been
[1:22:56] in the city for seven plus years, and I
[1:22:58] never speak. I'm just kind of the
[1:23:00] average Joe Schmo that drives to work,
[1:23:02] comes back, um, showed up for the last
[1:23:04] couple meetings, and it's getting for me
[1:23:06] a little scary that money, right? And
[1:23:08] that's what we we always talk about. How
[1:23:09] can we bring money in? I've heard, you
[1:23:11] know, Deputy Mayor Beaver, you bring up
[1:23:12] about well about the White Pack, you
[1:23:14] know, how can we go and fund this? And
[1:23:16] yet, we we have a plan here, you know,
[1:23:18] and I'm asking for this council to to
[1:23:20] start looking and reacting those plans.
[1:23:21] Those are tough decisions. I get it. So,
[1:23:23] my fellow citizens, we need to support
[1:23:24] this council. We need to support our
[1:23:26] city mayor, excuse me, our city mayor
[1:23:28] and our city manager, but we need to
[1:23:29] come together. And right now, we're
[1:23:31] pushing it. I feel we're pushing the the
[1:23:33] can down the road. And there's no clear
[1:23:34] vision, no clear plan how we're getting
[1:23:36] money in this beautiful city. We all
[1:23:38] love it. I want to continue raising my
[1:23:40] family here. I'm looking at retirement
[1:23:41] in the next 20 years maybe. Uh but the
[1:23:44] way it's going, are we gonna be the next
[1:23:45] San Arino? I really hope not. But thank
[1:23:48] you for your time. I appreciate it.
[1:23:50] » Thank you.
[1:23:52] » Next we have Hansen Wong.
[1:24:05] » Good evening, city council members.
[1:24:08] Thank you for uh [clears throat]
[1:24:11] allowing me to come up and speak.
[1:24:15] I live in district one.
[1:24:18] Uh I was a little concerned about one of
[1:24:21] my neighbors. Um she had to put down her
[1:24:25] only horse because of some uh injuries
[1:24:28] to the horse. And she calls Bertekch and
[1:24:33] says, "You know,
[1:24:35] I don't need anymore. was my last horse.
[1:24:38] And um you know it was she paid the
[1:24:42] whole year. It was a month into the year
[1:24:45] and then um they said they couldn't
[1:24:48] refund her the other 11 months that she
[1:24:51] had to pay for the whole year even
[1:24:53] though she wasn't using it. In addition,
[1:24:55] she asked them to remove the container
[1:24:58] and they told her no, she had to keep
[1:25:00] the container until the year was over. I
[1:25:02] mean it just doesn't they are a
[1:25:05] monopoly. They don't have to do what we
[1:25:08] ask of them because there is no other
[1:25:10] choice and I feel like um they should be
[1:25:14] a little more compassionate. It might be
[1:25:16] perfectly legal but again it just
[1:25:19] doesn't look good in my mind. Thank you.
[1:25:23] » Thank you.
[1:25:25] » Address.
[1:25:27] » Can you get the address?
[1:25:32] Dr. Wong, can you give the address that
[1:25:34] you're talking about to our city clerk,
[1:25:35] please?
[1:25:37] » My address or whoever your neighbor is
[1:25:39] next. Yeah, your neighbor.
[1:25:44] » I I don't know her exact address, but I
[1:25:47] can tell you her name. She said it was
[1:25:48] okay. It's Terry Boon.
[1:25:50] » Oh.
[1:25:50] » And she lives right around the uh street
[1:25:53] from me.
[1:25:54] » I have her address. Thank you, sir.
[1:25:55] » I'm sorry.
[1:25:55] » I I have her address.
[1:25:57] » Okay.
[1:25:57] » Thank you.
[1:25:58] » Good.
[1:25:59] Thank you.
[1:26:00] » Sorry, sir. Next, we have Private Beaver
[1:26:03] of the East Valley Young Marines.
[1:26:06] [applause]
[1:26:10] [clears throat]
[1:26:17] » My name is Hadley Beaver and I am a
[1:26:19] private with the East Valley Young
[1:26:21] Marines. I'm here today to talk about
[1:26:23] the importance of committing to a
[1:26:25] drug-free lifestyle.
[1:26:27] Some of the reasons that people start
[1:26:29] taking drugs are because of peer
[1:26:30] pressure, thinking that it would make
[1:26:32] them feel happier or calm, or they are
[1:26:35] curious and want to see what it feels
[1:26:36] like. Well, I am here to tell you that
[1:26:38] it is not cool or safe to do drugs.
[1:26:42] Drugs can do harm to both the body and
[1:26:45] the brain. They change the way you a
[1:26:47] person thinks and makes decisions.
[1:26:51] Another reasons why you should not try
[1:26:54] drugs even if you are curious because it
[1:26:57] could also lead to addiction which could
[1:27:00] make it difficult for someone to stop
[1:27:02] even if they know that the drugs are
[1:27:04] hurting them. Some drugs are
[1:27:08] methamphetamine,
[1:27:10] cocaine, heroin and prescription pills.
[1:27:15] There are also some legal drugs such as
[1:27:17] tobacco, alcohol and marijuana. Just
[1:27:21] because they are legal does not make
[1:27:23] them less dangerous.
[1:27:25] Another reason to be drug-free is
[1:27:26] because of the really bad side effects
[1:27:29] and symptoms. When people try drugs,
[1:27:32] they think it's going to be cool or fun,
[1:27:35] and they don't think about the side
[1:27:37] effects. Some of the symptoms from doing
[1:27:40] drugs are loss of appetite, not
[1:27:42] sleeping, bloodshot eyes, nausea,
[1:27:44] drowsiness, and dry mouth.
[1:27:48] As I mentioned earlier, peer pressure is
[1:27:50] a big reason that people try drugs.
[1:27:53] Being a member of the Young Marines
[1:27:55] makes me want to be a good leader and
[1:27:57] role model. And being a good role model
[1:27:59] and leader takes someone to have
[1:28:02] responsible decisions. So, choose good
[1:28:05] friends who also support your good
[1:28:07] decisions and won't peer pressure you
[1:28:09] into drugs.
[1:28:11] Making sure that you are around good and
[1:28:14] trusted friends is a good way to stay
[1:28:16] drug-free.
[1:28:20] So, I am making sure I do not do drugs
[1:28:22] and committing to a drug-free lifestyle
[1:28:25] so I can be a EMT and help people stay
[1:28:29] healthy.
[1:28:30] The East Valley Young Marines are
[1:28:32] currently recruiting for our next
[1:28:34] recruit class. We are having a parent
[1:28:36] orientation this Saturday, September
[1:28:39] 19th, from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. at
[1:28:42] the Redlands Elks Lodge. Please come and
[1:28:45] hear what opportunities the Young
[1:28:47] Marines have for your young adults.
[1:28:50] That concludes my presentation. Thank
[1:28:52] you for letting me speak. I am Private
[1:28:54] Beaver with the East Valley Young
[1:28:55] Marines. Everybody have a lovely night.
[1:28:58] Seri
[1:29:02] [applause]
[1:29:08] » [applause]
[1:29:08] » Can we can we get a picture with you?
[1:29:13] » Is that all right?
[1:29:13] » Sure.
[1:29:14] » Yeah.
[1:29:15] [clears throat]
[1:29:34] Good job.
[1:29:40] » Great job.
[1:29:50] Excuse
[1:29:56] [applause]
[1:30:18] [clears throat]
[1:30:21] We have no further comments and no
[1:30:23] virtual comments.
[1:30:24] » Okay.
[1:30:28] » Does anybody have a conflict of interest
[1:30:30] in or to disclose on the
[1:30:35] consent agend
[1:30:38] » I'm sorry not on the consent. Now now
[1:30:41] I'm
[1:30:43] your daughter is amazing.
[1:30:46] » Yeah. Anyways, [clears throat] announce
[1:30:49] it. The consent agenda is items one
[1:30:52] through seven. Does anybody have a
[1:30:56] want to remove any of the items off of
[1:30:58] one through seven?
[1:30:59] » I'd like to just um hear something about
[1:31:01] item three before we vote on it, but
[1:31:03] I'll move approval on the remainder.
[1:31:06] » And Mr. Mayor, I'd like uh number seven.
[1:31:09] » Number three and number seven.
[1:31:12] Okay. So, we have number three and
[1:31:14] number seven. We have one, two, four,
[1:31:17] five, six. Do you guys approve?
[1:31:20] » Yeah, that'll be so that'll be my motion
[1:31:23] if you want to second that one then.
[1:31:24] » Yeah. Okay.
[1:31:25] » One through [laughter]
[1:31:27] » Everything minus uh
[1:31:29] » Three and seven.
[1:31:29] » Three and seven.
[1:31:30] » Right. Okay. I got a first.
[1:31:32] » Second.
[1:31:33] » Okay, we got a first and a second. All
[1:31:35] in favor? I. Any opposed?
[1:31:38] All right. Number three.
[1:31:45] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Item
[1:31:47] number three is regarding a grant of
[1:31:49] easement. Um, this is the location of
[1:31:52] the easement is on city- owned property
[1:31:55] uh directly behind fire station number
[1:31:57] two between the city yard, the
[1:31:59] [clears throat] church, and fire station
[1:32:00] number two. Uh when the city acquired
[1:32:02] the property from the county for the uh
[1:32:05] flood control basin and the cityard
[1:32:07] property, there was an area well there's
[1:32:10] a there the Yukapa Valley Water District
[1:32:12] has some utility facilities in that
[1:32:14] area. So this item is just to clean it
[1:32:16] up and make sure that they have an
[1:32:18] appropriate utility easement on the city
[1:32:20] property for the the their facilities
[1:32:22] that have been there for for many years.
[1:32:25] And it's primarily for a uh
[1:32:29] I'll call it a drainage outlet from
[1:32:30] their well property to the Wilson Creek
[1:32:33] basin.
[1:32:34] » Okay.
[1:32:35] » And this item will will grant a utility
[1:32:37] easement from the city in favor of the
[1:32:39] Yakapa Valley Water District.
[1:32:44] » Okay. So the qu the question I had on
[1:32:47] that is [clears throat]
[1:32:49] as this um drains into the Wilson's
[1:32:52] Creek is this is there any
[1:32:56] Do they have any or vested interest in
[1:32:59] Wilson 3 and helping us get it further
[1:33:01] along? I mean I know like I know it's a
[1:33:03] a runoff for them, but does that tie
[1:33:05] them to our Wilson 3 basin that is still
[1:33:09] yet to be completed?
[1:33:10] » It it um it does tie into the channel
[1:33:15] upstream but not to the basin directly.
[1:33:17] » All right. Okay. I'll move approval on
[1:33:19] that item.
[1:33:20] » Second.
[1:33:20] » All right. We got a first and second.
[1:33:22] All in favor? I I
[1:33:23] » I Any opposed? All right. This item
[1:33:27] number seven.
[1:33:33] » Uh good evening, mayor and council. For
[1:33:35] item seven, uh it's a budgeted item for
[1:33:38] the paramedic squads. Uh when we went
[1:33:40] through the annual procure procurement
[1:33:42] for the budget, uh we weren't ready to
[1:33:44] make a decision on our next generation
[1:33:46] of cardiac monitor and compression
[1:33:48] device. Uh there's really only two
[1:33:49] manufacturers out there. So, we were
[1:33:51] field testing at the time. Uh we've
[1:33:53] selected Striker um and the procurement
[1:33:57] cost is more than uh city manager
[1:34:00] approval. So it's coming to you for
[1:34:01] purchase order approval with our ex
[1:34:03] existing 2627 budget.
[1:34:07] » All right. Thank you. And I had one
[1:34:09] question and I should have asked this
[1:34:10] when we talked about the squads
[1:34:12] initially, but where are we going to
[1:34:14] park these two trucks?
[1:34:15] » Station 553.
[1:34:17] » We have room for them.
[1:34:18] » We have room for the front line engine,
[1:34:20] reserve engine, and the squad. Yes.
[1:34:22] » Okay. All right. Thank you, sir.
[1:34:24] » We don't have any other room, but yeah,
[1:34:25] we'll have room for them.
[1:34:27] » So, we're now full.
[1:34:28] » We're We're tapped. Yes.
[1:34:30] » And you said that was for just one of
[1:34:31] the squads.
[1:34:32] » That's technically both squads would fit
[1:34:35] there. So, we're probably going to have
[1:34:36] to do that. I don't like backing
[1:34:37] equipment in. It's just going to lead to
[1:34:38] a backing.
[1:34:39] » Sure.
[1:34:39] » Accident, but uh for right now, we can
[1:34:41] fit everything. Yeah.
[1:34:43] » Okay.
[1:34:45] » Thank you.
[1:34:46] » I'm good.
[1:34:48] » I'm good.
[1:34:48] » You're good.
[1:34:51] Yeah, I'll move it.
[1:34:52] » Okay, I'll second it.
[1:34:52] » We got a first and a second. All in
[1:34:54] favor?
[1:34:55] » I. Any opposed?
[1:34:58] » Okay.
[1:35:09] Now, the discussions item number eight,
[1:35:11] request proposal of the city Kiple
[1:35:13] Performing Arts Center.
[1:35:14] » Good evening, mayor and members of the
[1:35:16] city council. The item before you
[1:35:17] tonight is the request for proposals for
[1:35:19] the operation of the UKIPA Performing
[1:35:21] Arts Center. At the August 24th city
[1:35:24] council meeting, council directed staff
[1:35:26] to return with an RFP for council's
[1:35:28] review. The purpose of the RFP is to
[1:35:31] solicit proposals from qualified
[1:35:33] companies interested in operating the
[1:35:35] YPAC and to establish the city's
[1:35:37] expectation for the facility's future
[1:35:40] operation. Tonight's action does not
[1:35:42] award a contract or commit the city to a
[1:35:44] particular operator. It provides the
[1:35:46] council with an opportunity to review
[1:35:48] the proposed RFP, recommend any
[1:35:51] revisions, and provide direction to
[1:35:54] staff regarding the next steps in this
[1:35:56] [clears throat] process. There is no
[1:35:58] fiscal impact associated with tonight's
[1:36:00] recommendation.
[1:36:02] Staff recommends that city council
[1:36:04] review the request for proposals and
[1:36:06] provide further direction. This
[1:36:08] concludes my report and I'm happy to
[1:36:09] answer any questions you may have at
[1:36:11] this time.
[1:36:12] » All right. Thank you. Any public
[1:36:14] comment?
[1:36:16] No comments on this item.
[1:36:17] » All right, Bob,
[1:36:20] » Justin,
[1:36:21] » I like it as written.
[1:36:25] » The only question I have is uh existing
[1:36:29] city rentals. Uh how many do we have,
[1:36:32] Megan, on the books now for future? Do
[1:36:34] you know offhand?
[1:36:36] » I do not have that number at this time,
[1:36:37] but I can get that and um supply that to
[1:36:39] the city manager.
[1:36:41] » Okay. Uh and of course uh whoever would
[1:36:44] get the bid, they would be provided with
[1:36:46] that information.
[1:36:48] » Yes. Uh prior to today's meeting, we did
[1:36:50] have 74 booked total. Um but we have
[1:36:53] received over a dozen cancellations.
[1:36:56] » Okay. How far out does that go into next
[1:36:59] year?
[1:37:00] » It goes actually into 2028.
[1:37:01] » Really? Okay. All right. Thank you.
[1:37:04] » Can we make that public? I mean toward
[1:37:06] Oh, we're going to make that to where
[1:37:07] the the people that are bidden on this
[1:37:09] can see all that. Yes, we'll have the
[1:37:11] dates in there that it's already
[1:37:12] reserved.
[1:37:13] » Okay, perfect.
[1:37:14] » So, do I have a motion?
[1:37:17] » I'll move to
[1:37:19] move as requested or as presented.
[1:37:21] » I'll second.
[1:37:22] » All right, we got a first and a second.
[1:37:24] All in favor?
[1:37:25] » I.
[1:37:25] » Any opposed?
[1:37:27] Okay.
[1:37:29] Item number nine, the general fund loans
[1:37:32] update capital improvement program.
[1:37:38] Good evening again, mayor, deputy mayor,
[1:37:40] and city council. This item is an
[1:37:42] update, as you mentioned, to the general
[1:37:44] fund loans and uh allocations to CIP
[1:37:47] projects over the years. Over the last
[1:37:50] 30 years, the city's general fund has
[1:37:52] provided funding to construct various
[1:37:54] projects. These projects include, you
[1:37:56] know, public facility projects, park uh
[1:37:59] projects, drainage projects, and also
[1:38:01] road and intersection widening projects.
[1:38:04] uh fund funding from the general plan
[1:38:06] has been provided in in either either in
[1:38:09] the form of a loan to the city's
[1:38:11] development impact fee program or it's
[1:38:13] been a one-time capital funding
[1:38:15] contribution to a specific project. Uh
[1:38:19] attached to your report and also on the
[1:38:22] screen before you is a list that uh
[1:38:26] identifies many of those major projects
[1:38:28] that the general fund has provided
[1:38:30] funding for over the last 29 30 years.
[1:38:33] Uh the list is in chronological order
[1:38:35] with the with the city council in 1997
[1:38:39] approving a loan of almost $3 million uh
[1:38:42] from the general fund to construct the
[1:38:44] Ukipa Community Park.
[1:38:48] The the
[1:38:50] column outlined in green um the this is
[1:38:54] this shows the funding that was loaned
[1:38:55] from the general fund to those specific
[1:38:58] projects. Uh the total amount loaned is
[1:39:00] about 35.5 million as you can see on the
[1:39:03] bottom.
[1:39:05] Uh this the column that's outlined in
[1:39:08] purple is uh funding that has been
[1:39:10] provided from the general fund in the
[1:39:13] form I'm sorry it's not a a loan but as
[1:39:17] a onetime contribution without having to
[1:39:19] be uh paid back.
[1:39:25] So for certain projects, both a loan and
[1:39:28] a one-time funding contribution uh has
[1:39:30] been approved by the city council and
[1:39:33] the formal approval of either the loans
[1:39:36] or the onetime funding contribution has
[1:39:38] occurred as part of the annual uh budget
[1:39:40] adoption process or when the the capital
[1:39:42] improvement program budget is approved.
[1:39:44] And in certain cases, that loan was
[1:39:46] approved um as part of the city council
[1:39:49] action. For example, when the
[1:39:51] construction contract for that specific
[1:39:54] project was awarded by the city council,
[1:39:57] if the funding was uh provided as a
[1:39:59] loan, the intent has always been uh to
[1:40:03] reimburse the general fund with revenue
[1:40:05] that is collected through the city's
[1:40:06] development impact uh program fees. Um
[1:40:09] and as you know, that funding is
[1:40:11] collected from developers as development
[1:40:13] occurs. And the funding is collected for
[1:40:16] the different categories in the DIP
[1:40:18] program whether it's traffic, drainage,
[1:40:20] parks, public facil facilities or uh
[1:40:24] fire.
[1:40:25] And over the years um a nominal amount
[1:40:28] has been repaid to the general fund. Um
[1:40:30] however uh you know back in uh 2019 the
[1:40:35] city's independent uh auditing firm um
[1:40:38] they did uh u make a note that the
[1:40:41] balance owed to the general fund was
[1:40:44] about 22 million. Again that was back in
[1:40:46] 2019. Uh the next year in 2020, the city
[1:40:49] council adopted a resolution where the
[1:40:51] city council approved a uh interf loan
[1:40:54] agreement that identified the terms um
[1:40:58] and it memorialized the terms to repay
[1:41:00] the general fund. Um, a couple points in
[1:41:04] that agreement were that um, at the time
[1:41:07] as part of that agreement, 50% of the
[1:41:10] diff revenue collected was to be used to
[1:41:13] repay the general fund and the remaining
[1:41:15] 50% could be used for uh, projects.
[1:41:20] Um a year later in 2021, uh the city
[1:41:23] council um adopted a uh a revised adopt
[1:41:29] a resolution to make changes to that to
[1:41:32] that agreement and that was in 2021. A
[1:41:34] couple of the changes uh that were
[1:41:36] included and I'll backtrack. The the
[1:41:38] original agreement in 2020 also included
[1:41:40] u a term of 10 years which meant that
[1:41:44] for a for the 10-year period 50% of the
[1:41:46] revenue would be used to repay the loan
[1:41:50] and after the 10-year period whatever
[1:41:52] balance was remaining would essentially
[1:41:54] be forgiven by the by the general fund.
[1:41:57] In 2021 when the city council adopted
[1:41:59] the revised uh terms or the revised
[1:42:02] agreement um they that agreement
[1:42:05] included a couple changes. One is that
[1:42:07] for the public facilities fund which is
[1:42:10] where the fire or the uh yeah fire
[1:42:12] station 3, the police station and the
[1:42:14] white pack loans are from or are
[1:42:17] located. Uh that the it increased the
[1:42:21] amount to be repaid to the general fund
[1:42:23] from the annual fees from 50% to 100%.
[1:42:26] And the intent there was to to increase
[1:42:29] the pace of repaying the general loan
[1:42:30] for the public facilities uh fund. Uh
[1:42:33] that in 2022 21 that uh revised
[1:42:37] agreement also extended the terms of the
[1:42:39] repayment from 10 years to 30 years. So
[1:42:41] now would be a 30-year period and
[1:42:43] similar to the original agreement after
[1:42:46] those 30 years whatever balance would be
[1:42:47] remaining would be essentially forgiven
[1:42:50] um by the general fund. And then it also
[1:42:52] included a um a clause in there that for
[1:42:55] any uh annual financial reporting
[1:42:57] requirements, the general fund could
[1:42:59] make another loan to any fund with a
[1:43:01] negative cash balance um at the end of
[1:43:05] that fiscal year on June 30th. Um and
[1:43:08] you know, just as a note, as of June
[1:43:10] 30th of 2025, um the the remaining
[1:43:14] balance is about 12.2 million according
[1:43:17] to the most recent financials. And
[1:43:19] that's as of June 30th of 2025. So 2019
[1:43:24] the balance remaining was about 22
[1:43:26] million. 6 years later the balance uh
[1:43:30] was reduced to about 12.2 million. Again
[1:43:34] that was at the end of 2025.
[1:43:36] So that was
[1:43:39] 14 15 months ago.
[1:43:42] And that concludes my report and staff
[1:43:44] is available for questions.
[1:43:46] » All right. Do we have public comment on
[1:43:48] this? No comments on this item.
[1:43:50] » Okay. Start John.
[1:43:54] » Thank you. Thank you, mayor. U for me.
[1:43:56] Do we have anything on the horizon that
[1:43:58] we see coming that might uh help lower
[1:44:00] that remainder? I mean, we've done Well,
[1:44:02] it's gotten down to 12, but do we
[1:44:04] foresee anything in the near future or
[1:44:05] is it going to be a a few more years?
[1:44:08] You think?
[1:44:08] » I think it's going to be a few more
[1:44:10] years. You know, it it it depends on the
[1:44:13] amount of development activity. um that
[1:44:16] over the last couple years with a couple
[1:44:18] of the uh larger projects that balance
[1:44:20] has gone down. So you it depends on the
[1:44:23] the development activity but uh having
[1:44:25] 50% of the traffic, drainage,
[1:44:29] fire and park um revenue going to repay
[1:44:33] the loan and 100% of the public
[1:44:35] facilities. That is it a good sign. I
[1:44:37] will mention that the traffic fund is
[1:44:40] the uh as of 2023 I believe it it had
[1:44:43] completely repaid back its loan from the
[1:44:46] general fund. So the ones that are
[1:44:47] remaining are the public facilities,
[1:44:49] parks, drainage and fire.
[1:44:54] » Thank you. And I don't remember where it
[1:44:56] said in here, but there was a date that
[1:44:58] if we don't have it paid back that we
[1:45:00] have to forgive it. What was that date
[1:45:01] that year? It was 30 years after 2021,
[1:45:03] but I I believe it was uh 2049 is
[1:45:06] » Okay.
[1:45:07] » Yeah.
[1:45:07] » All right. Thank you, sir. That's it for
[1:45:10] me.
[1:45:10] » Thank you, Judy.
[1:45:12] » No,
[1:45:13] » Bob.
[1:45:14] » Thank you, Mayor.
[1:45:16] » Well, I I I suffice it to say, I if we
[1:45:19] hadn't uh built this beautiful facility,
[1:45:21] we'd still be over in the portables, I
[1:45:22] would assume, meaning. And uh some
[1:45:25] investments you have to make. Um and
[1:45:28] this was predicated if I remember uh
[1:45:30] prior administrations on the development
[1:45:33] boom hitting uh especially specific
[1:45:36] areas that are not happening right now.
[1:45:38] So uh just keep working at it for me. Uh
[1:45:41] some was uncontrollable. Uh but if we
[1:45:44] sit in this beautiful building right now
[1:45:46] uh we wouldn't have that had we not
[1:45:48] invested in some of these things. So uh
[1:45:50] just keep keep working hard. I'm hoping
[1:45:52] there's some development eventually uh
[1:45:54] managed growth though of course um
[1:45:56] depending on where we're going to put
[1:45:57] it. We've tried a couple things already
[1:45:59] but the community has let us know how
[1:46:01] they feel about that. So you have to
[1:46:03] look at the future of how you're going
[1:46:04] to create some revenue too. Um and I
[1:46:06] just want to be careful for any u you
[1:46:08] know uh a lot of this was predicated if
[1:46:10] I remember prior administrations about
[1:46:13] diff fees and make sure they're paid and
[1:46:15] that if anybody's in the rears they need
[1:46:17] to square it up. So, um, you know,
[1:46:20] that's just just part of running the
[1:46:21] city. So, uh, thank you for your report.
[1:46:23] I know it wasn't pleasant to to say this
[1:46:25] all this, uh, when you look at them
[1:46:27] numbers, you go, "Oh my gosh, but, uh,
[1:46:30] it is what it is, right?" Thank you.
[1:46:34] » Thanks, Bob.
[1:46:35] » Thank you,
[1:46:36] » Deputy M.
[1:46:37] » So, uh, Council Thorp asked the
[1:46:40] question, re reask it to the city
[1:46:43] manager. um you know that the priority
[1:46:46] has to be
[1:46:48] responsible controlled development. Um
[1:46:51] so we got to continue working on that. I
[1:46:52] know you have done good work already
[1:46:54] getting us out there um going to those
[1:46:56] um conferences out of state that help
[1:46:59] find investors to bring restaurants and
[1:47:01] other places that'll help us um in more
[1:47:03] ways than just development development
[1:47:05] impact fees but truly our measure S
[1:47:06] funding as well. So, um, do you know of
[1:47:09] any development on the horizon that we
[1:47:12] can hope to see this down? Maybe do a
[1:47:14] singledigit million dollar amount before
[1:47:17] I'm off this council.
[1:47:17] » It's a great uh question. W Mayor,
[1:47:19] mayor, council. Good evening. Um, Peter
[1:47:22] Khan, he's heading down the ICS right
[1:47:24] after this. He has to go to San Diego
[1:47:25] tomorrow. He'll be out there, you know,
[1:47:28] walking around those big floors down
[1:47:29] there trying to seek development. Um,
[1:47:31] we're working on several out on the out
[1:47:34] on the freeway area. Um we haven't
[1:47:36] gotten in too many bites but but we are
[1:47:38] looking at different uses. We did at in
[1:47:40] Las Vegas talk to several developers
[1:47:42] about some larger box uh but single
[1:47:45] scale development not a massive
[1:47:47] commercial. Um we haven't seen anything
[1:47:49] yet. We are working with several
[1:47:50] developers on different areas interior
[1:47:52] of the city. We call infield
[1:47:54] development. Um but we are we're going
[1:47:56] to keep plugging away and we are now in
[1:47:58] the process of doing interviews for the
[1:48:00] economic development analyst. So that
[1:48:02] should help alleviate uh Peter's uh
[1:48:04] limited staff now. So uh we're we're
[1:48:07] doing all we can to bring in new
[1:48:08] development where we can.
[1:48:10] » So sorry to cut you off. So
[1:48:13] » Following um following the council
[1:48:16] voting to uh cancel the election um for
[1:48:19] the uh freeway corridor and rescending
[1:48:23] the um specific plan. We talked about
[1:48:28] truly trying to find a way forward,
[1:48:29] getting that like a task force almost
[1:48:31] together or having some a committee or
[1:48:33] something where we can try to get the um
[1:48:36] utilities all in one room, members of
[1:48:38] this community, members of the council
[1:48:40] to truly talk about how we're going to
[1:48:42] find that pathway forward on the freeway
[1:48:45] without the help of an outside warehouse
[1:48:48] bringing that those utilities in. Um I
[1:48:50] think it's kind of prudent given this um
[1:48:53] $12.2 $2 million uh loan amount that we
[1:48:56] still owe that we you know get back to
[1:48:59] work on that um and try to get that
[1:49:01] moving so we can identify how that's
[1:49:03] going to happen because I think we can
[1:49:04] talk a lot about what can go up by the
[1:49:06] freeway but I have a feeling that you
[1:49:08] can go and get all the investors you
[1:49:10] want for different types of small
[1:49:12] development once they realize there's no
[1:49:13] power no water over there they're not
[1:49:15] going to be able to build that that
[1:49:16] doesn't make it doesn't pencil right a
[1:49:18] term I've learned since I' been on the
[1:49:19] council so we're going to have to still
[1:49:21] figure out that obstacle of getting
[1:49:23] electricity and water to that side of
[1:49:26] town so we can build so we can allow for
[1:49:28] building to happen down there.
[1:49:30] » That's a that's a great question. So we
[1:49:32] are working in that regard. One of the
[1:49:33] reasons we went to DC is to see if we
[1:49:35] could get some infrastructure money. So
[1:49:37] that's a one way we work closely with
[1:49:38] the UK water district as well. I've
[1:49:40] talked to Joe over there. He's wants to
[1:49:43] help us. We want to work with all the
[1:49:44] water districts in the area and we want
[1:49:46] to facilitate development where we can
[1:49:48] um and sustainable development, not just
[1:49:50] mass commercial scale. Sure. And you
[1:49:52] know, we do need to get back. I I've
[1:49:54] talked to Peter about getting back to
[1:49:55] putting that together. I've talked to
[1:49:56] the mayor. We'll be doing that sometime
[1:49:58] in November, late November, we'd start
[1:50:00] on that process. Um, and start moving
[1:50:02] forward on that, getting us together
[1:50:04] strategically to look at that area. And
[1:50:06] again, we're not going to bring any
[1:50:07] pricey consultant. I can do it. Peter
[1:50:10] can do. We can put together the plan
[1:50:12] oursel. We have a ton of those plans. We
[1:50:14] can just hybrid it. Whatever the council
[1:50:16] and the community wants, we can pop them
[1:50:18] together. We have a GIS department. We
[1:50:20] could put our own maps together and
[1:50:21] exhibits and bring something forward. We
[1:50:23] don't have to pay, you know, a bunch of
[1:50:25] outside folks to come in and do that. We
[1:50:26] have plenty of uh models we can, you
[1:50:28] know, cut and paste from and build on a
[1:50:30] new plant.
[1:50:31] » Perfect. Thank you.
[1:50:33] » All right. Well, thank you. I think this
[1:50:35] will receive and file.
[1:50:38] » Thank you very much. All right.
[1:50:42] Award the contract for the street re
[1:50:44] rehabilitation
[1:50:46] [clears throat] project.
[1:50:49] Thank you and good evening, mayor and
[1:50:51] members of council. On July 27th, uh
[1:50:54] council adopted our fiscal year 2627
[1:50:57] pavement management program, uh also
[1:51:00] known as our PMP. Uh that adopted PMP
[1:51:03] included the list of streets proposed to
[1:51:05] be repaved this fiscal year. Upon
[1:51:07] adoption of the PMP, uh staff began
[1:51:10] working and advertised our first
[1:51:13] program, which was the street
[1:51:14] rehabilitation project within that PMP
[1:51:18] uh with the prioritized street segments.
[1:51:20] Uh the list of streets that are proposed
[1:51:23] with the project are attached with the
[1:51:24] agenda report. I've also got this first
[1:51:26] slide up here to kind of uh visually
[1:51:28] illustrate which streets those are in
[1:51:31] green on this slide here before shows
[1:51:33] you those locations of those streets uh
[1:51:35] proposed with this contract this
[1:51:38] project. Um the blue streets are also
[1:51:40] shown on there which are uh with the
[1:51:43] adopted PMP were proposed for
[1:51:45] resurfacing which we're planning to
[1:51:47] complete in the spring after we complete
[1:51:49] the uh rehab project here for repaving
[1:51:52] use any remaining budget um toward that
[1:51:54] and some of the other sub programs. Uh
[1:51:57] on August 27th um after we advertised
[1:52:01] the project, we received six bids for
[1:52:03] that project and tonight we are
[1:52:05] recommending award of the construction
[1:52:07] contract to the lowest responsible
[1:52:08] bidder All-American Asphalt.
[1:52:11] Uh if approved, staff can begin
[1:52:13] coordinating uh with All-American
[1:52:15] Asphalt to begin the work as soon as
[1:52:17] possible. Uh due to the competitive
[1:52:20] favorable bid prices that we received
[1:52:22] with this year's program, uh we have
[1:52:24] sufficient funding to accommodate what
[1:52:26] we have proposed uh for the contract
[1:52:28] contingency in the amount of $622,000.
[1:52:32] Um this additional funding will allow us
[1:52:34] to uh get this year's list of streets
[1:52:37] completed uh as shown here before you um
[1:52:40] and also add additional streets to be
[1:52:42] repaved. Um on this next slide here,
[1:52:44] which was also shown when the uh PMP was
[1:52:47] adopted in July, um you see an exhibit
[1:52:49] of of the streets we were just looking
[1:52:51] at, as well as the future two years of
[1:52:54] streets that were planned to occur next
[1:52:56] year and the following year. um as staff
[1:52:59] identifies um you know which streets can
[1:53:01] be incorporated into this year, we'll be
[1:53:03] looking at trying to pull some of those
[1:53:05] future year streets into this year, get
[1:53:07] those done, knock those out a year in
[1:53:09] advance and try to get a jump on our
[1:53:10] next year's program. Um I did want to
[1:53:12] highlight uh one of the segments that is
[1:53:15] included with this contract. Um you can
[1:53:17] you can kind of see here is uh one of
[1:53:19] the parking lots for one of our parks
[1:53:21] which is at Seventh Street Park. um
[1:53:25] shown a little bit better on this slide
[1:53:26] here. Um down here on Seventh Street um
[1:53:30] closer to the basketball uh tot lot and
[1:53:32] and pickle ball courts. So we've seen an
[1:53:35] increase in the focus on the pavement
[1:53:36] condition of our streets. And so as we
[1:53:39] consider some options for moving streets
[1:53:41] into that with that additional
[1:53:43] contingency we're proposing, if council
[1:53:45] wishes, we can uh also potentially shift
[1:53:48] approximately 30,000 that was identified
[1:53:51] for that seventh street parking lot
[1:53:52] rehab and perhaps reallocate that toward
[1:53:55] a street um per council's direction on
[1:53:57] that. Uh if approved, uh propo the
[1:54:01] proposed contract contingency with this
[1:54:03] construction budget uh would allow staff
[1:54:05] to administratively add um several of
[1:54:08] these future street segments um into
[1:54:10] this year's project and um just just get
[1:54:12] ahead of some of our future streets that
[1:54:14] we were looking at um doing in the
[1:54:16] future years. Um this last slide here
[1:54:20] just shows the recommendations proposed
[1:54:22] with this report. uh included at the
[1:54:24] bottom here of this slide is just a a
[1:54:26] table format to kind of show the
[1:54:28] proposed budget a little differently
[1:54:29] than what the agenda report shows with
[1:54:31] that uh construction contract there,
[1:54:34] proposed contingency and the line item
[1:54:35] for uh managing the project to do the
[1:54:38] testing and inspection that goes along
[1:54:40] with that for a total construction
[1:54:42] budget. Um just over $3.3 million there.
[1:54:45] And I'll step aside for a moment and
[1:54:47] give the floor to Fine to add a few
[1:54:49] other comments here before I close
[1:54:51] things out.
[1:54:54] Thank you, Landon. Um, I'd just like to
[1:54:56] add that um, you know, that we have
[1:54:58] heard the community's concerns regarding
[1:54:59] the streets, the condition of city
[1:55:02] streets, and, you know, we have shared
[1:55:05] with the public and the city council in
[1:55:06] the past that the city's uh, PCI, the
[1:55:09] pavement condition index is below the
[1:55:11] national average. So average, so as
[1:55:13] Landon mentioned, you know, with the
[1:55:15] favorable bid prices, the proposed
[1:55:17] contingency amount of 622,000,
[1:55:19] then using the money from the Seventh
[1:55:22] Street parking lot, and also potentially
[1:55:24] um using some
[1:55:27] savings from frozen staff positions, uh
[1:55:30] you know, an additional 270,000 could be
[1:55:33] used to repair more streets this year
[1:55:34] than are slated to be done. Um, one of
[1:55:37] the I like to go back to the second
[1:55:40] slide that Landon mentioned. The streets
[1:55:42] identified in yellow are those that were
[1:55:44] identified to be done next year and then
[1:55:47] the following year. So, so, uh, with
[1:55:50] this additional funding, it allows us to
[1:55:52] pull some of those streets in yellow to
[1:55:55] the current year, hopefully bringing up
[1:55:57] our PCI over the next few years. Um, you
[1:56:00] know, and I would just like to note one
[1:56:02] thing that we focused on when we
[1:56:04] presented the draft pavement management
[1:56:05] program to city council was that in
[1:56:08] order to bring the city's PCI to the
[1:56:10] national average, uh, we are estimating
[1:56:12] an annual budget of about 7.5 million
[1:56:15] per year with the changes that are being
[1:56:17] proposed here. You know, the the annual
[1:56:20] budget that's being proposed is about
[1:56:21] 4.8 million. So, just just for time for
[1:56:24] context, that's where we're at. Um, so
[1:56:27] that concludes our report and be happy
[1:56:29] to answer any questions.
[1:56:30] » All right. Well, thank you. Any public
[1:56:33] comment?
[1:56:34] » No comments on this item.
[1:56:36] » All right.
[1:56:37] » Judy, you want to start us off?
[1:56:38] » Yes. Um, I am in favor of not doing the
[1:56:42] parking lot and with the extra money
[1:56:44] that you talked about, the frozen
[1:56:46] position that that money all goes
[1:56:49] strictly for streets. That's what we
[1:56:51] need to concentrate on is our streets.
[1:56:55] All right,
[1:56:57] John.
[1:56:59] » Yes. Um,
[1:57:01] we've probably talked about this
[1:57:03] recently, but just just to revisit it,
[1:57:05] is there any other revenue streams like
[1:57:07] grants or anything that we can go after
[1:57:08] to help
[1:57:10] » Help uh fund additional
[1:57:12] » Mayor council? I can answer that. We are
[1:57:13] looking at TIFFA. We went to DC. So we
[1:57:16] did look at we costed it out with the
[1:57:18] finance department in public works and
[1:57:20] we are looking at putting an item in
[1:57:21] bringing it forward maybe 30 30 to$40
[1:57:25] million in uh lowcost loans and then Har
[1:57:28] discovered because half of the city is
[1:57:30] semi-ural we might get half off on the
[1:57:32] interest rate because they have a
[1:57:34] special rate for rural communities
[1:57:36] because as you all know half twothirds
[1:57:38] of the city is rural so residential we
[1:57:40] might be able to get a deal on the roads
[1:57:42] so we might get a lower interest rate
[1:57:44] and a regular you know market rate
[1:57:46] interest rate a little bit but below
[1:57:47] market um for the the the residential
[1:57:50] areas and commercial and more intense
[1:57:52] areas. So we are looking at that and
[1:57:54] bringing an item to you for
[1:57:55] consideration.
[1:57:56] » Do we know when that we might see that
[1:57:59] » Uh the next couple weeks or months we're
[1:58:01] looking at putting something on and
[1:58:02] we've reached out to the agencies and
[1:58:04] then bring something to you guys. And
[1:58:06] then if you're reaching out when you
[1:58:07] said you talked to some folks back east
[1:58:10] um
[1:58:12] applying for whatever that was that you
[1:58:14] were talking about what's the turnaround
[1:58:15] time for them to tell us
[1:58:18] » I think it's a few months if we if
[1:58:19] they'll it's pretty it's faster than a
[1:58:21] grant application because we're taking
[1:58:23] out a low low interest loan from the
[1:58:25] federal government. So the other
[1:58:26] agencies in I where uh uh they call it's
[1:58:30] a different type of loan program but the
[1:58:31] water agency you have a water agency has
[1:58:34] taken out these type of loans for
[1:58:35] infrastructure and this is similar. We
[1:58:38] just got to make sure we can identify a
[1:58:40] a revenue source to pay it back. That's
[1:58:42] the key.
[1:58:44] » All right.
[1:58:47] We can have a bake sale [laughter]
[1:58:50] and then I just want to add something
[1:58:52] else. We had a recent vacancy. So, as
[1:58:55] for me and the staff mentioned, I froze
[1:58:57] that position immediately and we're
[1:58:59] turning it into the for roads.
[1:59:01] » So, we're making things more efficient,
[1:59:03] too.
[1:59:03] » So, I' I've said it before when when I
[1:59:06] people ask me about our roads and
[1:59:08] they're furious about the conditions.
[1:59:11] Um, I usually I usually turn it into a
[1:59:13] question to, okay,
[1:59:15] how much should we spend? What is that
[1:59:17] dollar amount? And
[1:59:20] generally speaking, they're they're
[1:59:21] telling me a number that is under a
[1:59:23] million dollars. Well, at least at least
[1:59:24] $500,000 a year. I'm like, well, would
[1:59:27] you be surprised to learn that we're
[1:59:28] spending almost $4 million a year?
[1:59:30] They're like, oh, never mind. Don't
[1:59:31] spend more. I think that is something we
[1:59:33] need to make sure people are aware that
[1:59:34] we are spending millions of dollars
[1:59:36] every year on road maintenance. Um,
[1:59:39] where do we where do we move that on the
[1:59:42] scale? Do we spend more? And if we do,
[1:59:44] what what else are we cutting? Um, I
[1:59:46] think this is something certainly worth
[1:59:48] highlighting. um you've done great work
[1:59:50] in identifying ways to strate or
[1:59:53] creatively fund this. Thank you for
[1:59:55] hearing um
[1:59:57] the uh the cries of of the people who
[2:00:00] live here and are tired of driving on
[2:00:01] the roads um and thanks for getting
[2:00:03] creative. Um, we just got to make sure
[2:00:05] that when we're doing it, the last time
[2:00:07] the city tried to highlight the good
[2:00:09] work that they were doing and and
[2:00:11] maintaining our roads and putting, you
[2:00:12] know, uh, seals, sorry seals and
[2:00:15] repaving, um, we were, the city kind of
[2:00:18] got attacked and beat up a little bit on
[2:00:20] social media that we were looking for
[2:00:22] like pats on the back for the work we're
[2:00:23] doing. Couldn't be further from the
[2:00:25] truth. I'm I still want to advertise
[2:00:26] this. I want people to know what we're
[2:00:27] doing, not because I want I don't think
[2:00:28] the city needs accolades. The city needs
[2:00:30] to be transparent and make sure that
[2:00:32] people are seeing what we're doing. Um,
[2:00:33] it needs, you know, we have two over 200
[2:00:35] miles of roadway. It's easy for people
[2:00:38] not to see our crews out there or our
[2:00:40] contractor crews out there doing the
[2:00:41] work and they need to see it. I think we
[2:00:43] need to make sure that they're aware
[2:00:44] that they're out there. They're doing
[2:00:45] work. It's just we have a lot of roads
[2:00:47] that and a lot of which when we did that
[2:00:48] field trip, I don't know what it was. We
[2:00:50] went out and started looking at roads. I
[2:00:52] think it was raining that day, too.
[2:00:53] » It was.
[2:00:53] » We went out and looked at the roads and
[2:00:54] we were we were educated as a council
[2:00:56] that a lot of the roads there were the
[2:00:58] same pavement that the county put down
[2:01:00] pre-incorporation. So, we inherited
[2:01:02] roads from the county before we ever
[2:01:04] even became a city um that we're still
[2:01:05] dealing with. So, um I I'm looking
[2:01:08] forward to uh some of our transparency
[2:01:10] in the next couple weeks and and and
[2:01:11] advertising. Again, not for accolades,
[2:01:14] just so people are aware, this is what
[2:01:15] we're doing with your money. You're
[2:01:16] you're your tax dollars at work. Here's
[2:01:17] what we're doing. Um a lot of I see a
[2:01:19] lot of success with other cities that do
[2:01:21] um campaigns like that. Your tax dollars
[2:01:23] at work. Maybe we need to follow suit
[2:01:25] without spending money. I don't want to
[2:01:26] spend money on signs and stuff, but if
[2:01:28] we can put it out there, this is, you
[2:01:30] know, $3.3 million of your money that
[2:01:33] we're putting back into the roads. So,
[2:01:35] thank you.
[2:01:37] » Thank you, Bob.
[2:01:38] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just want to
[2:01:40] make sure I understood when we talked
[2:01:41] about the TIFF money with the federal
[2:01:43] authorities, they said we were not
[2:01:45] considered any rural. We were Do I have
[2:01:48] that right? I I thought I heard that
[2:01:49] from them, Sean, maybe.
[2:01:50] » That's correct. Uh, Councilman Miller,
[2:01:52] but we we did look on their web page and
[2:01:54] then we followed up with them. we might
[2:01:56] be able to qualify because it's the way
[2:01:58] our land uses are laid out and there are
[2:02:00] some disadvantage areas that we can
[2:02:02] probably apply for. We're looking to it
[2:02:04] but uh we don't have a definitive answer
[2:02:06] yet but we are looking as a possibility
[2:02:08] of paying a lesser interest rate
[2:02:10] » And I just would caution the council if
[2:02:13] we go down the road of loans and you
[2:02:15] know we just had a presentation for
[2:02:17] firming on money that we've already
[2:02:18] spent for facilities. Let's just be
[2:02:21] careful going down that road of loans
[2:02:22] and chasing loans. I think we have to
[2:02:24] live within our means. We have to
[2:02:26] balance our budget. We have to select
[2:02:28] priorities where they are. Streets has
[2:02:30] definitely been a an issue that's come
[2:02:32] up uh for several months now. No doubt
[2:02:35] it's needed, but we have other
[2:02:37] priorities too. So, let's be careful. I
[2:02:39] would caution the council, of course,
[2:02:40] your decision, but uh about chasing
[2:02:43] loans a little bit. That makes me a
[2:02:45] little leerary. I'll be honest with you.
[2:02:47] Um just from my experience.
[2:02:50] » Thank you. Now, are we getting with the
[2:02:52] other uh utility companies and stuff
[2:02:54] making sure that these roads are they
[2:02:56] don't have nothing to do with them after
[2:02:58] we get them paved because that's our I
[2:03:00] mean, you look at 12th Art Avenue E by
[2:03:02] 12th and we paved that not too long ago
[2:03:05] and and Western Heights, which I sit on
[2:03:08] the board. We went in there and dug it
[2:03:10] all up, you know, and but that's why I
[2:03:13] was wanting a moratorum that we have a
[2:03:15] five-year plan on anybody that touches
[2:03:18] our streets within five years after we
[2:03:21] paved it, they have to pave the whole
[2:03:22] thing again. So, correct, that is in
[2:03:26] place. The mortorium has been in place
[2:03:27] for many years. We meet monthly on that
[2:03:29] with the utility agencies. We give them
[2:03:31] as much information as early as
[2:03:32] possible. So, we do coordinate very
[2:03:34] closely and we'll also do that with
[2:03:36] those streets. We're hoping to pull in
[2:03:37] from the future years. Um, that will be
[2:03:40] something we look at carefully and
[2:03:41] selecting those streets, trying to
[2:03:43] coordinate as best we can with utility
[2:03:44] agents to try to prevent that from
[2:03:47] happening. I think we have a sewer line
[2:03:48] improvement for development that's going
[2:03:50] on Carter. So, that's probably not a
[2:03:51] good candidate as one example. So,
[2:03:53] wherever we can, we try to avoid
[2:03:55] repaving those streets where we the
[2:03:57] utility agencies have let us know they
[2:03:58] have planned or even maintenance work to
[2:04:01] try to avoid that. In the cases that
[2:04:02] it's unavoidable, that moratorum does
[2:04:04] take effect and we do everything we can
[2:04:06] to enforce that consistently across the
[2:04:08] board. So we do carefully consider that.
[2:04:11] » Is that coming to agenda here pretty
[2:04:12] soon to
[2:04:15] » Mayor council I've talked to for firm
[2:04:16] mean about this our public works
[2:04:17] director. We will bring an item to you
[2:04:19] and explain the background. There is one
[2:04:21] particular water district that uh
[2:04:23] believes they are exempt from our rules.
[2:04:25] Um we'll bring that to you. Um it's not
[2:04:28] agendaized right now, but we're going to
[2:04:29] bring that up to you because we do have
[2:04:30] a moratorium on roads and we'll update
[2:04:32] you guys at a later date in the next
[2:04:34] couple weeks, but there there is a water
[2:04:36] agency that feels they're not they're
[2:04:37] exempt from our rules about, you know,
[2:04:39] pounding, you know, grinding into our
[2:04:40] new paved streets, and we'll bring that
[2:04:42] to you at a later date for discussion.
[2:04:45] » All right. Okie do. Okay.
[2:04:48] » So, we need to I'm sorry.
[2:04:50] » Um just a question here then. uh to
[2:04:53] approve this item, but make the changes,
[2:04:58] make the uh take the parking lot out and
[2:05:01] add the uh wages, the money that from
[2:05:03] the frozen position. Um is a motion uh
[2:05:09] to approve this item with those
[2:05:12] um amendments
[2:05:14] » With the with the amendment to take the
[2:05:16] parking lot out and move that towards
[2:05:17] streets. I believe we can do that
[2:05:18] administratively with respect to the
[2:05:20] » Fun just so we're clear. So we're
[2:05:22] everyone's transparent. That would be
[2:05:23] the director, the deputy director of
[2:05:25] community development. We froze that
[2:05:26] position after the vacancy. Okay. So
[2:05:28] it's clear in the record. And then um
[2:05:29] we'd add that in as well. And
[2:05:31] transferring that money uh directing
[2:05:33] staff to transfer that money towards the
[2:05:35] roads projects.
[2:05:36] » So that would be my motion then. That
[2:05:38] would take care of what I'm trying to do
[2:05:40] here. Okay. That would be my motion.
[2:05:42] Then
[2:05:42] » Can I I just want to ask a couple other
[2:05:44] Sure. real quick. The parking lot at
[2:05:47] Seventh Street now that was $30,000
[2:05:50] » Approximately. Yep. Where it would be
[2:05:52] grinding overlay and then striping it.
[2:05:54] » So if if somebody were to walk be
[2:05:56] walking in that parking lot and twists
[2:05:57] the ankle or break an ankle or something
[2:05:59] like that, is that
[2:06:01] » That's on us, right? That would be
[2:06:04] » Is the condition of the parking lot that
[2:06:05] bad?
[2:06:07] » There there have been some pothole
[2:06:09] repairs, but it it does need repaving.
[2:06:11] It's probably been 30 some years since
[2:06:12] since it's been repaved. It doesn't it's
[2:06:15] a rough ride, but it anything that would
[2:06:17] cause those types of risk, we can
[2:06:20] address those through pothole repair,
[2:06:22] but um it does need repayment, but it
[2:06:24] could wait another year.
[2:06:26] » You want to do
[2:06:29] » Okay, mayor. We just want to make it
[2:06:30] clear, too. It's a budget transfer. The
[2:06:32] city attorney is keeping me in line. Um
[2:06:34] so you know because it's above my my
[2:06:36] signing authority so we're asking
[2:06:38] requesting a budget transfer because I I
[2:06:40] furrowose the director of the deputy
[2:06:43] director position from community
[2:06:45] development and we're requesting a haron
[2:06:47] it's a 230 or to be transferred into the
[2:06:50] road
[2:06:50] » I mean the number is not certain yet
[2:06:53] because we got to figure out still
[2:06:54] what's remaining for the year but we'll
[2:06:56] get that number calculated and the
[2:06:58] payouts and everything so we don't have
[2:06:59] the number calculated yet but we can get
[2:07:00] that soon. Can we make the motion just
[2:07:02] to be the budget transfer for the
[2:07:04] position?
[2:07:05] » You can authorize the city manager to
[2:07:07] effectuate a budget transfer of the
[2:07:09] unspent money for the deputy uh
[2:07:11] community development director position
[2:07:12] over to the streets and they'll
[2:07:14] calculate it. I'm sure the city manager
[2:07:16] will send you an email with what that
[2:07:17] amount ended up being. If you have any
[2:07:19] questions, you can put it on a future
[2:07:20] agenda. So, I do I would like the city
[2:07:24] attorney to weigh in on what the mayor
[2:07:25] said regarding the parking lot at Sav
[2:07:27] Street Park. Um the question was if if
[2:07:30] it's in such disrepair and somebody was
[2:07:32] to twist their ankle or become injured,
[2:07:34] are we moving money away from mitigating
[2:07:38] that liability or or the question I had
[2:07:40] was is it in such disrepair that we're
[2:07:42] concerned? I think you said we can do
[2:07:44] band-aid fixes over anything that
[2:07:45] presents itself moving forward, but as
[2:07:47] of right now there's nothing nothing
[2:07:49] right now that you're concerned with
[2:07:50] relative to safety. Is that right?
[2:07:52] » Correct.
[2:07:53] Um, so if you are asking me if we should
[2:07:56] repair a parking lot that is in a
[2:07:58] dangerous condition, my answer would be
[2:08:00] yes. If staff has inspected it and it
[2:08:03] doesn't meet the definition of a
[2:08:05] dangerous condition, uh, as long as we
[2:08:07] keep monitoring it and if something does
[2:08:09] arise, we go out there and fix it, then
[2:08:11] I think our liability is relatively low.
[2:08:13] Um, the legal standard doesn't mean a
[2:08:16] perfectly smooth parking lot. It means
[2:08:19] one which does not present a danger to
[2:08:21] someone walking on it or driving on it.
[2:08:25] » Okay, I'll second council member
[2:08:27] Woolseie's motion.
[2:08:29] » We got a first and a second. All in
[2:08:31] favor?
[2:08:32] » I.
[2:08:32] » Any opposed?
[2:08:34] » All right. Thank you very much.
[2:08:38] Item number 11, the rodeo wrap-up.
[2:08:43] » Good evening, mayor and members of the
[2:08:45] council. The item before you tonight is
[2:08:47] the 2026 UKIPA rodeo wrap-up. The rodeo
[2:08:50] was successfully held on May 15th and
[2:08:53] 16th at the Ukipa Equestrian Center and
[2:08:56] City Park. Over two days, approximately
[2:09:00] 7,000 people attended this event.
[2:09:03] Attendees enjoyed bull riding, mutton
[2:09:05] busting,
[2:09:07] and a lot of other events. In addition,
[2:09:10] there was food and merchandise vendors.
[2:09:12] Feedback from attendees was positive,
[2:09:14] particularly
[2:09:16] regarding the quality of the rodeo. The
[2:09:19] rodeo received tremendous support from
[2:09:20] the community and local businesses, and
[2:09:23] their sponsorships totaled $138,000.
[2:09:27] The revenue brought in from the
[2:09:28] committee helps future rodeo operations
[2:09:32] and also goes into improvements at the
[2:09:34] UKIPA equestrian arena, which includes
[2:09:39] this year over $50,000 of improvements
[2:09:42] and equipment was purchased and put into
[2:09:45] the city park. They've also provided an
[2:09:48] annual payment to the city to help
[2:09:50] offset the city's maintenance and
[2:09:52] utility costs. Their current agreement
[2:09:54] pays $5,000 a year and the committee has
[2:09:57] agreed to increase this contribution.
[2:10:00] Staff will work with the committee
[2:10:01] president to prepare an amendment to
[2:10:03] their current agreement. Beyond its
[2:10:05] financial contributions, the UKIP rodeo
[2:10:09] remains one of the signature events in
[2:10:11] this community and it celebrates Ukipa's
[2:10:15] heritage. The success of this event
[2:10:18] would not have been possible without
[2:10:20] amazing volunteers and the Ukipa
[2:10:23] Equestrian Arena Committee.
[2:10:27] Its members donate countless hours
[2:10:30] throughout the year to ensure that the
[2:10:32] arena remains usable and that the rodeo
[2:10:37] is successful. At this time, I would
[2:10:39] like to introduce Shellyley and Jim to
[2:10:42] speak more about how amazing their
[2:10:45] committee is. As they make their way up
[2:10:48] here,
[2:10:50] I would like to say that we are looking
[2:10:52] forward
[2:10:54] to the 2027 UK rodeo, which is scheduled
[2:10:57] for May 14th and 15th, and staff will
[2:11:00] return to council at a later time to
[2:11:02] discuss those details. Here is Shelley.
[2:11:06] Good evening, council and mayor. We'd
[2:11:09] like to first thank you all for
[2:11:11] supporting and being there for the
[2:11:13] rodeo. Some of you went for the first
[2:11:15] time this year and got to enjoy it and
[2:11:17] got to sit right down on the grounds and
[2:11:19] see what we do. Looking back, some of
[2:11:22] our committee members are here. We'd
[2:11:23] like to thank them for the countless
[2:11:25] countless hours that make this happen.
[2:11:27] There's not that many of us and it's a
[2:11:29] big job to fill. We'd also like to thank
[2:11:33] Megan because Megan is our lifeline to
[2:11:38] you guys. And without Megan showing up
[2:11:41] in the middle of the night or the middle
[2:11:42] of the morning and picking up street
[2:11:45] signs and I can't even tell you, she
[2:11:48] probably doesn't want to take our phone
[2:11:49] calls during rodeo. So, having said
[2:11:51] that, this is for Megan.
[2:11:59] » We appreciate you.
[2:12:03] We're very grateful and you guys should
[2:12:05] be grateful for what she does for us.
[2:12:07] Secondly, we'd like to thank another
[2:12:09] member of our committee that has put in
[2:12:11] countless hours,
[2:12:13] more time, more energy than anybody I've
[2:12:16] ever met. Their heart and soul is part
[2:12:18] of the Akipa Equestrian Center and the
[2:12:20] rodeo grounds. You couldn't add up the
[2:12:23] numbers. You couldn't pay this person
[2:12:25] enough. come rain, snow, sleet, whatever
[2:12:29] it takes,
[2:12:31] this person is there. We'd like to honor
[2:12:33] Jim Butler tonight for all of his
[2:12:36] volunteerism and what he does for the
[2:12:37] city of Ukipa, Yukipa Equestrian Center,
[2:12:40] and the rodeo. If the uh members would
[2:12:44] like to come down, please so we can
[2:12:46] honor Jim.
[2:12:54] and the city also on behalf of the city
[2:12:57] council and the city of Ukipa, we'd like
[2:12:59] to present you this certificate and at
[2:13:01] the end of the report we'd love to have
[2:13:03] your photo taken.
[2:13:11] » Is there any questions or anything about
[2:13:13] the rodeo the UK equestrian center that
[2:13:15] I can answer for you?
[2:13:19] John
[2:13:20] Judy,
[2:13:21] » Do you want to do the picture and stuff
[2:13:23] first and then we can get into a
[2:13:24] discussion?
[2:13:27] » Yeah, that do you want to do that?
[2:13:29] » I'd just like to make a quick comment
[2:13:30] and take all the pictures we want. We
[2:13:32] took a lot of pictures today. So,
[2:13:34] » I just uh thank you for what you do. I
[2:13:37] mean, it is a historic uh event for our
[2:13:39] city and uh I got to go last year. It
[2:13:42] was great. But I also want to thank you
[2:13:43] guys for recognizing Megan for all the
[2:13:45] hard work she does, not only for your
[2:13:47] event, but all the events she works on.
[2:13:49] So, and that was nice of you to bring
[2:13:51] her some flowers. And thank you, sir,
[2:13:53] for your service and everybody that
[2:13:54] helps. Uh, it's a great event. It's part
[2:13:56] of the history of our town. So, uh, keep
[2:13:57] it up. Keep going. We'll do whatever we
[2:13:59] can to support you.
[2:14:00] » Thank you.
[2:14:07] » Oh, we're gonna take your picture really
[2:14:09] quick.
[2:14:12] Come on.
[2:14:23] » What? I'm going
[2:14:28] » You didn't want to carry your flowers?
[2:14:37] » It can't be done without without the
[2:14:39] city.
[2:14:42] in the middle.
[2:14:42] » Really?
[2:14:43] » Oh, yeah.
[2:14:48] » I wore my boots.
[2:14:53] » One, two, three,
[2:15:03] [applause]
[2:15:12] You guys are all
[2:15:25] » Good shot.
[2:15:35] Staff recommends that city council
[2:15:36] receive and file the 2026 rodeo wrap-up
[2:15:40] report or provide further direction to
[2:15:43] staff. This concludes my report and I'm
[2:15:45] available to answer any questions that
[2:15:46] you may have at this time.
[2:15:49] » All right. Thank you. So Bob, you made
[2:15:52] Justin.
[2:15:53] » Thank you for the rodeo. Appreciate
[2:15:55] everything. Appreciate everything y'all
[2:15:57] do. Uh I said y'all. Uh it's always a
[2:16:01] well attended event and uh I think it's
[2:16:04] probably one of the few community events
[2:16:06] that we never we never wonder if it's
[2:16:08] going to
[2:16:10] break. It doesn't ever it's always more.
[2:16:12] You guys always do a phenomenal job
[2:16:13] getting the people out there in spite of
[2:16:15] the uh some of the protesters out front
[2:16:17] who I don't think understand that some
[2:16:19] of the I think the livestock have better
[2:16:21] medical care than than I do. So thank
[2:16:23] you for everything you guys do for for
[2:16:24] our city and for the rodeo.
[2:16:28] Judy.
[2:16:29] » Okay. Uh, what year was this uh,
[2:16:32] contract originally made?
[2:16:38] » I don't know off the top of my head that
[2:16:40] the the year the city entered into an
[2:16:42] agreement with the equestrian arena, but
[2:16:44] I can look into that and get that
[2:16:45] information for
[2:16:46] » Would Shelly know?
[2:16:52] » I think was it five or six years ago or
[2:16:56] that's what I'm thinking. It's been like
[2:16:57] 10 years now. Yeah. In that area. Okay.
[2:17:00] And it was for 20 years. Correct.
[2:17:03] » Yes. It was a 20-year agreement.
[2:17:06] » Okay. Um things a lot of things can
[2:17:09] change in 20 years. As we all know, our
[2:17:12] prices go up, costs go up. Um the for
[2:17:16] first thing I want to say is the rodeo
[2:17:18] is a great event. I grew up around
[2:17:20] rodeos. I love rodeos and I understand
[2:17:24] the uh volunteer help and how important
[2:17:27] that is. Now uh you've been paying us
[2:17:30] 5,000. You have agreed that you would do
[2:17:33] an additional 2,500.
[2:17:36] I would like to propose that you add
[2:17:38] another 25 to that and bring it up 5,000
[2:17:42] for an even 10,000.
[2:17:45] Uh I asked for what it costs the city.
[2:17:49] Uh we pay $110,100
[2:17:53] a year in um
[2:17:56] costs for the equestrian center. So I
[2:18:01] just believe that an $10,000 would
[2:18:04] definitely help that. I really would
[2:18:06] wish that we could maybe sit down and
[2:18:08] renegotiate the contract at some point
[2:18:10] and just see if there's anywhere that we
[2:18:13] could maybe make some changes or
[2:18:16] something to help both of us. But my
[2:18:18] request would be, would you be willing,
[2:18:20] instead of 2,500, give us an additional
[2:18:24] 5,000?
[2:18:25] » At this time, we are in negotiation and
[2:18:28] set for a meeting that's two weeks out
[2:18:30] from now to go over those numbers once
[2:18:33] again. We have everything on paper.
[2:18:35] We've submitted it and we will be
[2:18:36] looking at a closer number to get you
[2:18:38] closer once we look at what it's going
[2:18:40] to cost for our startup for next year's
[2:18:41] rodeo. And just as you specified, um,
[2:18:45] all of our costs went up. the revenue
[2:18:47] is, you know,
[2:18:49] » Just like you guys see it. So, we are
[2:18:51] going to try to push our numbers closer
[2:18:52] to make everybody happy and we should
[2:18:56] have some answers for you in the next
[2:18:57] couple weeks.
[2:18:58] » Okay. Thank you, Shel.
[2:18:59] » Thank you.
[2:18:59] » Yeah.
[2:19:00] » Before you leave,
[2:19:03] » Go ahead.
[2:19:03] » Go ahead.
[2:19:04] » No. Are you done?
[2:19:04] » I'm done. Yeah.
[2:19:06] » Oh. What's the chances of doing it twice
[2:19:08] a year
[2:19:11] » Right now? I would say absolutely not.
[2:19:13] But [laughter]
[2:19:14] it takes we don't have enough manpower
[2:19:17] to get this up and going. And the other
[2:19:19] thing, and we've discussed this before,
[2:19:22] um that you probably don't know about,
[2:19:23] but there's a rodeo circuit that goes
[2:19:25] around
[2:19:26] » And you book your dates a year in
[2:19:28] advance for these contractors and these
[2:19:29] people and these bleachers and these
[2:19:31] things to come in. If you are not booked
[2:19:32] in, you will not get them. We cannot put
[2:19:35] on a quality show by doing it two times
[2:19:37] a year with with the way we are doing it
[2:19:39] now. It would bring our show down. We we
[2:19:43] want to keep the level of a small town
[2:19:45] rodeo where we have it now. And that
[2:19:47] would be my answer.
[2:19:49] » All right, that's fair enough.
[2:19:50] » I have another question. [laughter]
[2:19:54] » Have you ever thought about doing any uh
[2:19:57] country western concerts?
[2:19:59] » I bet you could fill that arena.
[2:20:02] » We have um we've thought about having
[2:20:04] western days, having
[2:20:07] other events there. If you go to the
[2:20:10] UKIPA calendar, you can look to see what
[2:20:12] events we have for the month. There is
[2:20:13] quite a bit of shows and things going on
[2:20:15] booked out throughout the year.
[2:20:17] » Um, our intention would be to book it
[2:20:20] out more and do things like that
[2:20:23] » That involves the city, that involves
[2:20:25] the insurance, the liability, the street
[2:20:28] closures, all of that stuff takes money
[2:20:30] to put it on to make money.
[2:20:32] » So, yes, we do consider it. Sometimes we
[2:20:34] just got to figure out how we can do it.
[2:20:36] » Okay. Thanks.
[2:20:37] » Thank you.
[2:20:37] » All right. I think we're done this time,
[2:20:39] Shelley. So,
[2:20:42] all right, that was a receiving file.
[2:20:44] All right, thank you guys. And and thank
[2:20:47] you for everything you guys do for that
[2:20:50] rodeo. That's an amazing rodeo. Every
[2:20:52] year I go.
[2:20:55] All right, now it's make a difference
[2:20:57] day.
[2:21:00] » It's me and good evening, mayor and
[2:21:02] members of the city council. The item
[2:21:03] before you tonight is the discussion
[2:21:05] regarding the 2026 make a difference
[2:21:08] day. For more than 14 years, the city of
[2:21:10] Ukipa participated in this nationwide
[2:21:13] day of community services. Historically,
[2:21:15] the community services department and
[2:21:17] the public works department coordinated
[2:21:19] the event. This included identifying and
[2:21:21] organizing projects, recruiting and
[2:21:24] coordinating volunteers, providing
[2:21:26] supplies and equipment, promoting the
[2:21:28] event, and helping with the necessary
[2:21:30] logistics.
[2:21:32] As part of the city's efforts to address
[2:21:35] its financial condition, funding for the
[2:21:37] Make a Difference Day was eliminated
[2:21:39] beginning in fiscal year 2025 2026.
[2:21:43] Therefore, the current budget does not
[2:21:44] include funding or staff costs to
[2:21:47] coordinate the city sponsored event, a
[2:21:50] city sponsored event. The city manager
[2:21:52] recently discussed the event with the
[2:21:54] chairpersons of the parks and recreation
[2:21:56] commission, healthy Ukipa committee, and
[2:21:58] trails and open space committee.
[2:22:00] Although the city is not currently
[2:22:02] funded to sponsor or administer make a
[2:22:05] difference day, there still remains an
[2:22:07] interest in the community to put on this
[2:22:11] event. One option discussed for the
[2:22:14] interested residents, volunteers, and
[2:22:16] service groups is to apply for a special
[2:22:18] event permit through the community
[2:22:20] services department, which would allow
[2:22:22] the community to continue this tradition
[2:22:24] without returning its events to the
[2:22:26] previously city-f funed model.
[2:22:30] At its August 26th meeting, the Parks
[2:22:32] and Recck Commission discussed
[2:22:34] recognizing the event's history and the
[2:22:36] value while still acknowledging the
[2:22:38] city's current financial and staffing
[2:22:40] limitation. The purpose of tonight's
[2:22:42] meeting, well, the item at the meeting
[2:22:46] is to provide council with an
[2:22:48] opportunity to discuss whether Make a
[2:22:50] Difference Day should continue in some
[2:22:52] form and if so, if um the city should
[2:22:55] have any um
[2:22:59] sorry, what role the city should have
[2:23:00] moving forward. Staff recommends that
[2:23:03] the city council discuss make a
[2:23:05] difference day and provide further
[2:23:06] direction to staff. And this concludes
[2:23:08] my report, but I'm happy to answer any
[2:23:10] questions that you may have at this
[2:23:12] time.
[2:23:12] » All right. Thank you. You want to start
[2:23:14] us off, Bob?
[2:23:16] » Um,
[2:23:19] thank you, mayor. I think I made my
[2:23:20] comments when I commented back to
[2:23:22] Denise. Yes.
[2:23:23] » About what's done. So, I I mean, I
[2:23:24] support it, however we end up figuring
[2:23:27] out how we want to do it in the future.
[2:23:29] I know you still have the the I don't
[2:23:31] want to say the competitive day, but the
[2:23:32] church that does their love you kypa and
[2:23:36] then they're fixing schools and all
[2:23:37] that. So maybe I don't know.
[2:23:38] » I think that they're they're involved
[2:23:40] with this as well. I think that they are
[2:23:43] in
[2:23:43] » I don't I thought it would
[2:23:46] » I thought they ended up separating out,
[2:23:48] but you could educate me on that. I
[2:23:49] maybe we revisit that, but I don't know
[2:23:51] about the special event permit if we
[2:23:53] have to do that. But um I'd be glad to
[2:23:56] listen to anybody about that.
[2:23:59] At this time, I don't have an update on
[2:24:01] the Love You Kypa. Right before
[2:24:03] tonight's council meeting, I did receive
[2:24:04] a an email from Pastor Randy um stating
[2:24:08] that he uh no longer is going to take
[2:24:11] the lead on Love You Kypa and he's
[2:24:13] encouraging um other pastors within the
[2:24:16] community to take on Love You Kypa and
[2:24:19] take the lead on that. Um, but I'd be
[2:24:21] more than happy to get the details of
[2:24:24] that and return to the city manager with
[2:24:26] that information.
[2:24:27] » Okay.
[2:24:29] Um,
[2:24:31] yeah. So,
[2:24:34] I think the city should certainly
[2:24:38] help
[2:24:40] um make a difference day.
[2:24:43] The question is, I guess how
[2:24:46] I I don't I I agree with Councilman
[2:24:48] Miller. don't think we should we should
[2:24:49] we as a city should say that this is a
[2:24:51] good thing for the city ask us
[2:24:53] permission to do it and we'll let you do
[2:24:54] it. That seems counterintuitive like we
[2:24:57] we we should give we should empower
[2:24:59] people to do to um recognize a day
[2:25:03] whatever that day is as this is the make
[2:25:05] a difference day in Ukipa. And then we I
[2:25:08] mean I I do like the idea of it being a
[2:25:10] more of a philanthropy and more of a
[2:25:12] more of a giving thing where the
[2:25:14] Sunshine growers maybe donates and
[2:25:16] people are giving versus the city
[2:25:18] expending time and and money. Maybe a
[2:25:20] small amount of staff time. I help me
[2:25:22] understand that that dollar amount. You
[2:25:23] just said $100,000. What was it? Did you
[2:25:25] Did somebody say that?
[2:25:26] » No, we did not provide a a dollar amount
[2:25:28] for staff.
[2:25:29] » What was it pre What was the previous
[2:25:30] amount of money that we were that we
[2:25:32] budgeted for for Make a Difference Day?
[2:25:34] » Fine. Can correct me if I'm wrong. Well,
[2:25:36] actually, he's just walking up, so I'm
[2:25:37] going to let him take the mic.
[2:25:39] » Yeah, for years, uh, we budgeted an
[2:25:41] average of, uh, $15,000 per year in the
[2:25:45] public works maintenance budget for Make
[2:25:46] a Difference Day. I believe one of the
[2:25:48] speakers earlier mentioned that an
[2:25:49] average of 22,000.
[2:25:52] There were some years where the city's
[2:25:53] contribution was a lot higher, but
[2:25:55] that's because we were we coordinated a
[2:25:57] make a difference day make a difference
[2:25:59] day event at a site where the city had a
[2:26:02] CIP project. So we used some project
[2:26:04] funding and that $15,000 and one year I
[2:26:07] remember it was about $130,000 but but
[2:26:09] it it's $15,000 in a public works
[2:26:11] maintenance budget.
[2:26:12] » Yeah. So I agree with that part of it as
[2:26:15] well. I think I think if we were able to
[2:26:17] identify different projects in the
[2:26:19] community that we could rally an army
[2:26:21] behind of volunteers, we're spending the
[2:26:24] money anyways whether we're spending it
[2:26:26] on with our staff or contractor doing or
[2:26:28] we're empowering folks and nothing not
[2:26:31] you know doing electricity or anything
[2:26:32] that it has to be you know inspected but
[2:26:35] people can plant bushes and trees. Um
[2:26:39] I think we should identify a day
[2:26:42] this council should identify a day in
[2:26:43] the year and identify that that day is
[2:26:45] make a difference day. Maybe maybe the
[2:26:47] third Saturday of whatever month or
[2:26:48] whatever we decide and that's just in
[2:26:50] perpetuity that's what it is. Now the
[2:26:51] city staff that can then plan projects
[2:26:55] moving forward on stuff that we were
[2:26:56] that were you know we've already
[2:26:59] appropriated spending for to just do
[2:27:01] them on that day when we have a truly a
[2:27:02] volunteer army at our disposal to do
[2:27:04] them. um like we did at I think it was
[2:27:08] Elorado.
[2:27:09] We planted I mean we planted a ton of
[2:27:11] trees up there and we did that butterfly
[2:27:14] wildflower seeding of the ground, right?
[2:27:17] Um and I happen to know of a youth
[2:27:20] organization that wears camouflage that
[2:27:22] would love to come out and donate their
[2:27:24] hours in the community. So, uh I think
[2:27:27] uh I think we should identify a day. I'm
[2:27:30] not I'm not so sure we need to we need
[2:27:33] to identify a dollar amount as even for
[2:27:35] staff time. If we have a plan that the
[2:27:37] city's going to be doing something at a
[2:27:39] park or um you know along some roadway
[2:27:42] that we're going to do some
[2:27:43] beautifification anyways and we're going
[2:27:44] to be spending money on the landscaping.
[2:27:46] Let's see if we can get people to help
[2:27:47] us dig the holes and plan them. Um
[2:27:50] » You know what? I I jumped the gun a
[2:27:53] little bit. We do have public comment
[2:27:54] and I apologize for that to the
[2:27:57] citizens. Um, can we get to public
[2:27:59] comment first?
[2:28:00] » Yeah.
[2:28:01] » Thank you.
[2:28:02] » We'll start with Dee Chudy, followed by
[2:28:04] Kathy Sers.
[2:28:15] » Good evening, Mayor and City Council.
[2:28:17] Dee Chudy, president of Ukipa Valley
[2:28:20] Conservancy and also a member of the
[2:28:23] Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
[2:28:25] Saints who love Make a Difference Day.
[2:28:28] We love to get our families out there.
[2:28:31] Speaking of the Elorado, as a
[2:28:33] conservancy, we are so excited to get
[2:28:35] that and the five wins to you guys and
[2:28:38] to see it develop and grow a lot of it
[2:28:42] because of Make a Difference Day. And
[2:28:44] the people come out. It's free labor.
[2:28:47] It's good for the families. It's good
[2:28:48] for kids to learn work ethics. And it is
[2:28:52] just fabulous for the city of Ukipa. And
[2:28:55] I hope from what I've heard already in
[2:28:58] the discussions that you will support
[2:29:01] make a difference state. have some staff
[2:29:03] out there show us where maybe we won't
[2:29:05] have a lot of trees to plant. But
[2:29:07] there's some ruts when I ride out
[2:29:09] through the Elorado
[2:29:11] that some good strong men could get all
[2:29:14] those ruts out of there and get ready
[2:29:16] for the winter that's coming, make some
[2:29:17] diversion dams, but your staff will need
[2:29:20] to direct us on that. And that's why
[2:29:22] we'd love to have them out there showing
[2:29:24] us what needs to be done. And it's
[2:29:27] great, not just there at the Elorado,
[2:29:29] but all around Uka. You can see the
[2:29:31] trees growing along over by Craftton
[2:29:34] that they've planted and just the people
[2:29:37] come back and they look up there and
[2:29:39] they see their trees they planted years
[2:29:41] ago and they're huge. They're wonderful
[2:29:44] and it's I hope the city does still
[2:29:46] support it and do this. Thank you very
[2:29:49] much.
[2:29:49] » Thank you.
[2:29:51] [applause]
[2:29:59] Kathy Sers, District 1. Good evening,
[2:30:02] mayor and council members. First, I want
[2:30:03] to thank Mayor Venibal for requesting
[2:30:05] that Make a Difference Day be placed on
[2:30:07] tonight's agenda. For 14 years, this
[2:30:09] city sponsored tradition has brought
[2:30:11] residents, service organizations,
[2:30:13] elected officials, city employees, and
[2:30:15] volunteers together to improve and
[2:30:16] beautify Ukipa. Its value cannot be
[2:30:19] measured only by the projects completed
[2:30:21] or the number of trees planted. Make a
[2:30:23] difference day created community
[2:30:25] fellowship. Neighbors worked side by
[2:30:27] side. Families served together and
[2:30:29] people became more connected to Ukipa
[2:30:31] and invested in its future. My own
[2:30:33] family participated in this event. We
[2:30:35] tagged trees with the names of our young
[2:30:37] grandchildren who are growing up here.
[2:30:39] As those trees grow, our grandchildren
[2:30:41] grow with them. They are living
[2:30:43] reminders that we are planting roots,
[2:30:45] creating memories, and leaving something
[2:30:47] meaningful for the next generation.
[2:30:49] Mayor Venal and Deputy Mayor Beaver have
[2:30:51] participated in this event and witnessed
[2:30:53] the civic pride it inspires. Make a
[2:30:55] Difference Day would also create a
[2:30:57] natural opportunity to partner with the
[2:30:59] Inland Empire Resource Conservation
[2:31:01] District in restoring monarch butterfly
[2:31:03] habitat at El Dorado Ranch Park.
[2:31:06] Volunteers could plant native flowering
[2:31:08] trees and plants, create pollinator
[2:31:10] habitats, and improve public spaces
[2:31:12] throughout Yukipa. Families could return
[2:31:15] year after year to see how their trees
[2:31:16] have grown and how those plantings
[2:31:18] support monarchs and other butterflies,
[2:31:20] possibly leading to Ukipa's own
[2:31:22] butterfly pavilion and muchneeded
[2:31:24] tourism. Children could learn that even
[2:31:26] a small pollinator garden can support
[2:31:28] butterflies, bees, birds, and our
[2:31:30] environment. After all, butterflies are
[2:31:32] free. Make a Difference Day could help
[2:31:34] that initiative take flight. We
[2:31:36] understand that the city faces serious
[2:31:38] budget problems resulting from f
[2:31:40] financial decisions made years ago. That
[2:31:43] makes careful prioritization especially
[2:31:45] important. The staff report suggests
[2:31:48] that community members could coordinate
[2:31:49] the event with limited or no city
[2:31:51] support. But asking volunteers to assume
[2:31:54] the planning, liability, permitting,
[2:31:56] equipment, supplies, and logistical
[2:31:58] responsibilities previously handled by
[2:32:00] two city departments is not truly
[2:32:02] continuing the same event. It shifts the
[2:32:05] city's responsibility onto residents who
[2:32:07] are already donating their time and
[2:32:08] labor. The city found nearly $200,000 in
[2:32:12] taxpayer money for the recall lawsuit
[2:32:14] and its settlement, yet eliminated
[2:32:16] funding for a positive familyoriented
[2:32:18] community tradition. Those priorities
[2:32:20] are difficult to justify. If the city
[2:32:23] could spend that much funding, that much
[2:32:25] fighting its own residents, it should be
[2:32:27] able to find modest funding,
[2:32:29] sponsorships, partnerships, and staff
[2:32:30] support to help residents serve their
[2:32:32] city. Please measure make a difference
[2:32:35] day by the trees still growing, the
[2:32:37] friendships formed, the children who
[2:32:39] participated, the butterflies that will
[2:32:42] return, and the civic pride it creates.
[2:32:44] Restore a meaningful city role. Continue
[2:32:47] making a make a difference day and help
[2:32:49] nature take flight in Ukipa. Thank you.
[2:32:54] » Thank you,
[2:32:55] » Christine Mhler, followed by Hansen
[2:32:57] Wong. [clears throat]
[2:33:07] Thank you so much for hearing me,
[2:33:08] Christine Mohler. Wow, that was a hard
[2:33:11] that's hard to follow. Um, you know, I
[2:33:13] just want to say that um Make a
[2:33:15] Difference Day is uh
[2:33:19] something that um
[2:33:22] can't put value on. It's it's a feeling.
[2:33:25] It's a fellowship of a community. I
[2:33:28] mean, you can't buy that. The fellowship
[2:33:31] of a community coming together to
[2:33:33] benefit the community. Dr. Moore threw
[2:33:36] down his gauntlet and he he challenged
[2:33:39] us and we understand the budget
[2:33:43] challenges. So, we tried our best to,
[2:33:47] you know, reach out to see what we could
[2:33:49] accomplish without the city's help. And
[2:33:53] of course, you know, everything is
[2:33:54] better with the city's help, city
[2:33:56] council support, staff support, of
[2:33:58] course. Um, and of course, Megan and
[2:34:01] Sarah could, you know, everything is
[2:34:04] better with their help for sure. And for
[2:34:06] me and Scott, for sure. You know, we've
[2:34:09] been doing that for years, for 14 years.
[2:34:11] I want to address your your point,
[2:34:13] Justin, that it could be different days.
[2:34:15] This is a national day. And I want to
[2:34:18] point out too that 14 years ago when we
[2:34:20] started this, this the little city
[2:34:23] [snorts] of Ukipa, which was much
[2:34:24] smaller at the time, won the award in
[2:34:27] the state of California. Now realize
[2:34:29] there's 483
[2:34:31] cities in the state of California. And
[2:34:33] UKIPA won the most participation, which
[2:34:36] got us grant money, which we're so proud
[2:34:39] of, right? But, you know, it's
[2:34:41] interesting because in this challenge, I
[2:34:44] reached out to several people to see if
[2:34:46] we could, you know, garnered the help.
[2:34:48] You wouldn't believe the type of
[2:34:50] response that we've gotten. For example,
[2:34:53] I reached out to Chief Malinowski. And I
[2:34:56] asked him, I said, "You guys always
[2:34:58] provide a crew. Do you think you can pro
[2:35:00] provide a crew for us on the 24th?" And
[2:35:03] he said, "What do you need?"
[2:35:05] I said, "We're going to put some
[2:35:06] monuments up for the trail hits." And he
[2:35:08] goes, "My guys can dig." And I said,
[2:35:10] "Yeah, we're going to put some concrete
[2:35:12] up." My guys can put concrete up. I
[2:35:14] called the water district. I said, "Hey,
[2:35:16] you think you can volunteer some things?
[2:35:18] What do you need?" Everybody was what
[2:35:20] you need. The school district, the um
[2:35:23] Cal Fire Edison, IRDC, the mountain bike
[2:35:27] team, Three Peaks Corp., the um parks
[2:35:30] and recck committee. They're going to
[2:35:32] take on two projects. the civic center
[2:35:35] and Flag Hill Park trail head markers um
[2:35:38] by the trails and open space butterfly
[2:35:41] projects with seed and seed bomb
[2:35:42] projects. We have two kid projects, a
[2:35:45] rock snake painting to continue that the
[2:35:48] snakes that we have going on in the
[2:35:49] parks and a butterfly seed bomb project.
[2:35:52] And we have a teacher right here who's
[2:35:54] willing to to head that on the senior
[2:35:57] center by our healthy Ukipra. They're
[2:36:00] going to get together with Vanessa and
[2:36:02] rehab the courtyard. There's a goal that
[2:36:05] Steve Franken has set for us and that's
[2:36:07] 400 irises planting 400 iris bulbs.
[2:36:11] That's our that's our the box. We have
[2:36:15] all kinds of things going on. And what
[2:36:17] we're asking for is just give us an
[2:36:19] opportunity to make a difference. Give
[2:36:21] us an opportunity to come together as a
[2:36:24] community. This community is unique.
[2:36:27] Fellowship is what we're all made of.
[2:36:30] You, a lot of you have come out and
[2:36:33] volunteered so many times. Um,
[2:36:36] Councilman Thorp, you cracked me up at
[2:36:38] the mountain bike dedication. I got him
[2:36:41] a shirt that was a little bit too small
[2:36:43] and he asked me, "Do I have to wear it?"
[2:36:45] And he did. So, you know, those kind of
[2:36:48] things, our fellowship, that's what our
[2:36:50] community is about. And I promise, uh,
[2:36:52] Dr. Moore, if you come, I'll buy you the
[2:36:55] right shirt.
[2:36:56] » Thank you.
[2:36:58] Hansen Wong. [applause]
[2:37:15] The past few years, there have been
[2:37:18] several things that have caused
[2:37:19] divisiveness in our city. But one thing
[2:37:23] that hasn't
[2:37:25] has been the make a difference day where
[2:37:27] people come together and they think
[2:37:30] about what to do to make our city better
[2:37:35] whether it's our senior center whether
[2:37:38] it's the
[2:37:40] the parks and so on. We even worked on
[2:37:44] the library sidewalk once and so on. So
[2:37:49] I think it's important that we consider
[2:37:52] something that brings people together
[2:37:54] rather than divides people.
[2:37:56] I think that um the ability to have
[2:38:03] trees and butterflies and whatever else
[2:38:06] that we do is something that our
[2:38:09] community can socialize, come together.
[2:38:13] The trees themselves I I mean there are
[2:38:16] tree organizations that we try to get
[2:38:18] into the city that had difficulty but
[2:38:21] the trees are good mentally and
[2:38:23] physically for our city. This project
[2:38:28] and the day is good for our city
[2:38:30] mentally and physically. So I I think we
[2:38:33] need to do what we can. Obviously, there
[2:38:35] is a financial burden, but again, if the
[2:38:38] city guides us as to what needs to be
[2:38:41] done and what can help um our parks and
[2:38:46] uh whatever other areas that are needed
[2:38:48] or senior center and so on and whatever
[2:38:52] amounts of fund and direction that you
[2:38:55] can give us, whatever amounts of
[2:38:56] voluntary time that the city can give
[2:38:59] us, but to have the city spearheaded and
[2:39:02] accommodate the day that's a a national
[2:39:06] day and not just a random day I think
[2:39:09] would be an important many ways for our
[2:39:12] city and our city should consider it.
[2:39:15] Thank you very much.
[2:39:16] » Thank you.
[2:39:18] [applause]
[2:39:19] » Have no more comments.
[2:39:20] » Okay.
[2:39:22] So, John,
[2:39:25] » I would agree with the federal council
[2:39:27] members that stated, you know, like to
[2:39:29] support it, but as far as financially, I
[2:39:32] don't think that we can
[2:39:34] commit to that at this time. But if they
[2:39:36] want to go out to the community and they
[2:39:37] want to have an ad hoc committee and
[2:39:39] they want to be able to get together and
[2:39:41] get the community involved and get
[2:39:43] support from all those in the area, I'm
[2:39:44] more than happy to be a part of it as
[2:39:46] well from my seat. But um I think
[2:39:49] financially we got to hold on to our
[2:39:51] pennies right now.
[2:39:52] » All right, Judy,
[2:39:54] » I have no problem with the event. Uh but
[2:39:57] I thought we had already uh decided on
[2:40:00] this and discussed it that the city
[2:40:02] would not be involved because of our
[2:40:04] budget. So uh as far as I'm concerned uh
[2:40:07] volunteers uh should do this. I think
[2:40:10] that's great. City should stay out of
[2:40:13] it.
[2:40:14] » So my question remains uh some of the
[2:40:17] money we budgeted how much of that is
[2:40:19] staff time? What what percentage was it?
[2:40:21] Was staff time versus an outright check
[2:40:23] being written to somebody for the
[2:40:24] purchase of stuff?
[2:40:26] » Deputy mayor and councel, we'll have to
[2:40:28] look into that. I don't have that
[2:40:29] number, unfortunately. We have to bring
[2:40:31] it back. But I also want to call to your
[2:40:32] attention that while it's a very
[2:40:35] meritorious uh endeavor, there's also
[2:40:38] costs. Uh Scott had mentioned to me, our
[2:40:40] our deputy public works director, we
[2:40:42] also have to irrigate them, the trees.
[2:40:44] We also have to maintain all of these
[2:40:47] things. We also have to, you know,
[2:40:48] there's a lot of things that the city
[2:40:50] ongoing will have to maintain on these
[2:40:52] programs. They're great programs.
[2:40:53] They're awesome. Um, but, you know,
[2:40:55] those are things that we need to
[2:40:56] consider. We can bring a complete staff
[2:40:58] report if that's the direction of the
[2:40:59] council. I don't have those numbers.
[2:41:00] » Yeah. But nothing in Make a Difference
[2:41:02] Day says things have to be planted,
[2:41:03] living things that have to be
[2:41:04] maintained. There's
[2:41:06] » I'm going off previous uh previous uh um
[2:41:10] events that we've had. Staff mentioned
[2:41:12] that they had to replant plants and
[2:41:14] trees. They had to irrigate, re-rigate
[2:41:16] them. them. They weren't irrigated. All
[2:41:18] of that costs time and money, resources
[2:41:20] to the city of Yuka.
[2:41:22] » Noted. So, there are plenty of projects
[2:41:25] though that don't need to be maintained
[2:41:27] that can just be something that the city
[2:41:29] has to have done anyways. Um, our um
[2:41:33] veterans flag park is constantly in need
[2:41:35] of help, whatever that is. Even if it's
[2:41:37] just weed abatement, that doesn't you
[2:41:39] don't need to maintain weed abatement. I
[2:41:41] mean, that's something we should be
[2:41:41] doing anyways. In fact, I'm pretty sure
[2:41:42] our municipal code requires us to get
[2:41:45] rid of weeds at city facilities. So, um,
[2:41:49] the reason I say that all that is
[2:41:52] if we're cautious about spending extra
[2:41:56] money, we already employ we we already
[2:41:58] employ people, right? Pretty sure we
[2:41:59] already employ people their schedule,
[2:42:01] move their schedule to go inside of that
[2:42:03] day so that we have people out there
[2:42:04] helping these volunteers work on city
[2:42:07] pro city projects as well. Um, that's
[2:42:09] not an expenditure. That's just what it
[2:42:11] costs to have a city. Um I I don't that
[2:42:16] the whole staff time thing is seen as a
[2:42:18] as a cost. Unless you're telling you're
[2:42:21] going to lay people off, that's not a
[2:42:23] cost. That's we employ people and yes,
[2:42:26] we have to pay them. And so if we're
[2:42:27] going to have an event where we are
[2:42:29] getting hundreds of volunteer people to
[2:42:33] come and help us help our city staff,
[2:42:36] that's that's actually that's more
[2:42:38] that's cost effective. Um, and so we
[2:42:41] should be involved with make a
[2:42:42] difference day on October 24th. Thank
[2:42:44] you, Christine. Uh, we should be
[2:42:46] involved and our city staff should be
[2:42:48] involved as well. And if that means we
[2:42:49] schedule adjust them and they work on
[2:42:50] Saturday, but they don't work on Friday
[2:42:51] or whatever the case may be, that I
[2:42:54] don't that's and then and then we lean
[2:42:55] on the volunteers that are want to be
[2:42:57] involved. And again, if they're planting
[2:43:00] stuff on city property that has to be
[2:43:01] maintained by city and it has to be a
[2:43:03] continuing budget to take care of that
[2:43:04] outside of what is already being like I
[2:43:07] imagine we have irrigation in some
[2:43:08] places already. Maybe there's dead dead
[2:43:10] trees that already have irrigation ran
[2:43:12] to them. I know for certain not every
[2:43:14] tree that we planted in 2022
[2:43:18] maybe make a difference today survived
[2:43:20] at Elorado. They need to be replanted
[2:43:22] and there's already irrigation ran to
[2:43:23] them. This just a matter of replanting a
[2:43:26] tree. So um we we it is foolish of us at
[2:43:31] this council to say no, we're not the
[2:43:33] city's not going to get involved in
[2:43:35] having hundreds of people getting
[2:43:36] together to volunteer to help the city
[2:43:38] be better. That's a that's a silly that
[2:43:39] is a silly statement. Um we need to be
[2:43:41] involved because otherwise we're doing
[2:43:43] it ourselves and we're paying for it out
[2:43:45] of pocket. Now we're now we're spending
[2:43:46] more money to do what could have been
[2:43:47] done in one day by a bunch of
[2:43:48] volunteers. So um I have this quote on
[2:43:51] my screen that I've thought about since
[2:43:53] uh Denise spoke earlier. Uh the one who
[2:43:55] plants trees knowing that he will never
[2:43:57] sit in their shade as at least started
[2:43:58] to understand the meaning of life. Um we
[2:44:00] have to do it now because the city the
[2:44:03] maintenance of the the gem of the Inland
[2:44:04] Empire has to be continuously
[2:44:06] maintained. whether or not we see the
[2:44:08] beauty of it 20 years down the road, it
[2:44:10] has to be done now. And so, um, what I
[2:44:13] want to avoid is this this slope of we
[2:44:16] we don't have enough money to maintain
[2:44:17] stuff and get involved because Karen
[2:44:18] Bass is doing that in LA, but not just
[2:44:20] choosing not to maintain any roadways.
[2:44:22] Like, what what a foolish decision. Um,
[2:44:24] we have people who are literally kicking
[2:44:25] down our door begging to help. They all
[2:44:26] want us in guidance and it's going to
[2:44:28] cost us a little bit of staff guidance.
[2:44:30] Yeah, that's a good investment. Um, poor
[2:44:32] investment to step away from that.
[2:44:35] [applause and cheering]
[2:44:41] I agree with that. You know, if you
[2:44:44] outweigh the the help that we get for
[2:44:46] how much it costs us to do it ourselves,
[2:44:49] I mean, and then bringing a community to
[2:44:51] together, that's priceless. That's
[2:44:54] absolutely priceless, you know, to bring
[2:44:56] a community together like like they do.
[2:44:59] So, um, you know, we might have that not
[2:45:02] have the budget in it in our I mean the
[2:45:04] money in our budget this year, but you
[2:45:06] know, on next year's budget, you know, I
[2:45:08] if if I'm still around, uh, I'll make
[2:45:13] sure that we we have some money put in
[2:45:16] the budget for next year. So, um, what
[2:45:20] do we
[2:45:24] » Well, I I still I think we should we
[2:45:25] need to discuss whether or not I mean,
[2:45:27] fine. There's no
[2:45:29] We did budget positions. We we funded
[2:45:32] public works positions. Those are
[2:45:34] already funded.
[2:45:35] » And there are certainly probably
[2:45:36] projects that they want they would like
[2:45:38] to get done somewhere around October,
[2:45:40] sorry, somewhere around October 24th.
[2:45:44] If we coincide again, fine. If if
[2:45:47] Scott's concern is, hey, they go out and
[2:45:49] plant all these trees and we just let
[2:45:51] them die because we have to have to pay
[2:45:52] for the irrigation and pay for the
[2:45:53] mainten fine. Okay. But there's other
[2:45:55] I'm certain I'm confident that if we
[2:45:57] could sit down Scott and say, "Scott, if
[2:45:59] you had a hundred people here today,
[2:46:01] what would you want them to help you
[2:46:02] do?" I refuse to believe you'd say, "No,
[2:46:04] that's a huge liability. I don't I I
[2:46:06] have nothing for them to do." That's
[2:46:08] that's not realistic. I I know a lot of
[2:46:10] I know of a lot of city properties that
[2:46:11] have weeds on them. We can at least do
[2:46:13] some weed abatement. So, um
[2:46:17] yeah, the there's too many volunteers
[2:46:19] for us to turn them away and say,
[2:46:20] "Sorry, we don't we can't help you this
[2:46:22] year." We have park park issues with
[2:46:24] with irrigation issues on it that we can
[2:46:26] get taken care of. There's, like you
[2:46:29] said, the trees that are dead in in
[2:46:31] certain areas that have irrigation.
[2:46:33] Maybe we can get those, you know, but I
[2:46:35] I think that you guys have plenty of of
[2:46:39] projects to do, right, to, you know,
[2:46:45] to get this going. So, where do we go
[2:46:48] from here?
[2:46:51] So, we're just waiting for direction
[2:46:52] from the council. What you want to do?
[2:46:54] You want to direct staff to bring, you
[2:46:56] know, work with uh um the folks there
[2:46:58] that are leading making the effort. I
[2:47:00] can have Megan work with them and
[2:47:01] because we don't have a scope of a
[2:47:02] project yet detailed fully. So, Megan
[2:47:05] can reach out tomorrow and start working
[2:47:06] with them to figure out what what their
[2:47:08] scope of the project is and go forward
[2:47:10] from there. And then bring if you want,
[2:47:12] we can bring the item back. And for
[2:47:14] Councilman Thorp and Councilwoman
[2:47:16] Woolseie's benefit, I'm not I'm not
[2:47:17] advocating the city write a check and
[2:47:19] start spending money,
[2:47:20] » Right?
[2:47:20] » Staff time is one thing,
[2:47:22] » But again, we employ we employ quality
[2:47:24] staff anyways. We got they have to work.
[2:47:26] Let's put them to work. This is a good
[2:47:27] project that they should be working on.
[2:47:29] I'm not saying that we should go out and
[2:47:30] say, "Hey, go buy 12 1,250 trees." Don't
[2:47:34] do that. I'm not saying we should do
[2:47:35] that. Okay? But if already they have a
[2:47:38] plan or something happening and they
[2:47:40] were going to be making the expenditure
[2:47:41] on on something that was approved
[2:47:42] anyways around that time, defer it a
[2:47:44] week or two and do it on that day.
[2:47:46] » Justin, um, who was it that commented so
[2:47:50] many was it daffodils or something?
[2:47:52] » Irises. Irises.
[2:47:54] » I know we're in Iris City. I realize
[2:47:56] that. Okay. They're going to have to be
[2:47:59] planted, watered, tended to.
[2:48:01] » Yeah. I don't know where they're
[2:48:02] planting them at. Where are they
[2:48:03] planting irises at? wherever our city
[2:48:04] arborist tells us to.
[2:48:06] » Yeah,
[2:48:08] » It all involves it does involve staff
[2:48:10] time.
[2:48:11] » Not necessarily because we actually do
[2:48:12] have wild irises that grow in the city
[2:48:14] that don't that aren't maintained,
[2:48:15] » But they're going to have to be planted
[2:48:16] and taken care of. I mean, they will do
[2:48:18] the planting, but they still going to
[2:48:20] have to be taken care of. It's just my
[2:48:22] point is that um we've already discussed
[2:48:26] the fact that there is no money for
[2:48:29] staff or uh this type of program because
[2:48:34] we did not budget for it.
[2:48:37] It's not in the budget.
[2:48:38] » But there is there is a budget for staff
[2:48:39] because I we
[2:48:40] » Staff yes to do the things that staff
[2:48:43] needs to be doing with our parks. Not
[2:48:46] additional work. This would be
[2:48:48] additional.
[2:48:49] » I don't think so.
[2:48:51] We're going to agree to disagree.
[2:48:52] » There you go. [laughter]
[2:48:55] » Go ahead, Bob.
[2:48:56] » Thank you, mayor. You know, I'm always
[2:48:58] amazed. We spend millions and millions
[2:49:00] of dollars on equipment and other things
[2:49:02] that we do in this city, and we get into
[2:49:05] these long conversations over money
[2:49:08] that's in the thousands. It's amazing.
[2:49:11] I've seen it going on cities for years.
[2:49:12] They used to argue over a copier, how
[2:49:14] much a copier cost while approving, you
[2:49:16] know, 15 police cars. So, we just got to
[2:49:20] get perspective. This is a good thing.
[2:49:22] And even though only two council members
[2:49:24] were mentioned, John, I met you planting
[2:49:26] trees over in El Dorado when I was
[2:49:29] running for school board and I got to
[2:49:30] know you there and that was really fun.
[2:49:32] And we met a bunch of people and we
[2:49:34] beautified the community to a beautiful
[2:49:36] park that had a vision. These are things
[2:49:38] cities need to do. It's quality of life
[2:49:40] issues which all relate back to crime in
[2:49:43] some respect.
[2:49:44] » It's all about community, quality of
[2:49:46] life. What kind of town do you live in?
[2:49:49] You know, these kind of days are
[2:49:50] something special. We should mark that
[2:49:52] as, hey, make a difference day.
[2:49:53] Celebrate it. And u I just want
[2:49:56] perspective of the money we've spent
[2:49:58] over this last year. And when we get
[2:50:01] talking about a few thousand dollars,
[2:50:03] quite frankly, it seems to be the
[2:50:05] biggest debate we have as a council. I'm
[2:50:07] not blaming this council. I've seen it
[2:50:08] happen for years at other councils. But
[2:50:10] we have to have perspective. This is a
[2:50:12] good thing. I haven't heard one council
[2:50:13] member say it's not a good thing.
[2:50:15] » Right? This is stuff we have to allocate
[2:50:17] funds for, in my opinion, for the
[2:50:19] beautifification and the community feel
[2:50:21] it gives to our town. That's what we're
[2:50:22] here for. You know, it's what we're
[2:50:24] supposed to do. Yes, we all love monarch
[2:50:26] butterflies. I know Valley Elementary
[2:50:28] has a nice thing and and irises are
[2:50:30] pretty and it's natural here and trees
[2:50:33] are wonderful and the parks are great.
[2:50:35] That's all part of quality of life. It's
[2:50:38] all part of everything you do
[2:50:40] holistically to reduce crime. I mean, if
[2:50:43] you really want to put it in
[2:50:44] perspective, um, you know, and we don't
[2:50:46] always mean to go with the crime thing,
[2:50:48] but me and Justin probably will and
[2:50:49] John, too, but, you know, it's part of
[2:50:52] that community thing. So, I I I think we
[2:50:54] should allocate some money to this,
[2:50:55] quite frankly. We're moving 200,000
[2:50:57] here. We're doing 500 here. This is not
[2:51:00] that big a
[2:51:01] » Right issue for us. Uh, I I don't hear
[2:51:04] anybody that's negative about it other
[2:51:05] than Justin explaining that, hey, we
[2:51:07] already have staff working. And yeah,
[2:51:09] I'm sure Scott and the guys had to look
[2:51:11] at water and and maybe there were some
[2:51:13] things that needed to be replanted.
[2:51:14] Okay, that's what a city does. You know,
[2:51:17] we can do all that stuff. That's the
[2:51:19] good stuff you do. That's the good stuff
[2:51:21] for the community. That's all I got to
[2:51:23] say.
[2:51:24] So So we're we're freezing this one of
[2:51:28] the staff members that that had recently
[2:51:31] left, right? We're freezing that that
[2:51:33] position. And you said it was 200 some
[2:51:35] thousand. It's roughly Well, we don't
[2:51:37] have the details left. 200 something.
[2:51:39] » Can you take half of that and get that?
[2:51:42] » Well, mayor, that's that's already a
[2:51:43] separate item that was already voted on
[2:51:45] by the It's not on the agenda.
[2:51:47] » Yeah,
[2:51:49] » $15,000.
[2:51:50] I'm sure we can find $15,000 somewhere.
[2:51:53] » We I can bring it back an item if the
[2:51:55] council desires. We could put it back on
[2:51:57] after we get Megan meets with them and
[2:51:59] gets the scope and we can bring it back
[2:52:00] for your consideration
[2:52:02] and give you a budget, too.
[2:52:04] » Okay. Does that work? If that works for
[2:52:06] you,
[2:52:06] » I'm good with that.
[2:52:07] » You make a motion.
[2:52:09] » Yeah. Uh I make a motion that staff
[2:52:11] returns to the council with uh an agenda
[2:52:13] item to discuss a budget for Make a
[2:52:16] Difference Day in perpetuity.
[2:52:18] » I'll second that motion.
[2:52:20] » All right, we got a first and a second.
[2:52:21] All in favor?
[2:52:22] » I
[2:52:23] » I.
[2:52:23] » Any opposed?
[2:52:24] » Yes. No.
[2:52:26] » All right.
[2:52:29] [applause]
[2:52:34] » Okay.
[2:52:35] All right. Any council members have any
[2:52:37] comments or business reports requests?
[2:52:39] Bob?
[2:52:40] » Yeah. Oh, sorry. Thank you, mayor. I
[2:52:42] appreciate the time. Um, I just wanted
[2:52:44] to thank the fire chief and the whole
[2:52:45] crew and our police department and our
[2:52:47] city and our staff and Megan for the 911
[2:52:50] ceremony. Um, it was really special. Uh,
[2:52:53] you kept it like an hour. So, Chief,
[2:52:55] thank you. That was pretty good.
[2:52:56] People's attention's about an hour. We
[2:52:58] had a lot of great guest speakers there.
[2:53:00] We had our state senator, our assembly
[2:53:02] member, our superintendent, our county
[2:53:05] supervisor. Uh it was nice to see the
[2:53:08] support for our town by our other
[2:53:10] elected officials in the regional area.
[2:53:12] So that was wonderful. I thought that
[2:53:14] the uh the uh honor guards were
[2:53:17] outstanding. They hit the point every
[2:53:19] time even though they got a little
[2:53:20] crowded there where we had them uh doing
[2:53:22] the ceremony because we had to make the
[2:53:24] adjustment because of the heat. We had
[2:53:26] to think of people. Um, but I got a lot
[2:53:28] lot of great comments afterwards. What a
[2:53:30] beautiful ceremony. And that's something
[2:53:31] I know your heart and souls in chief.
[2:53:33] Um, and it's beautiful, man. We need to
[2:53:35] do these kind of things and to honor
[2:53:37] that. We've all covered it in speeches
[2:53:39] already. We all spoke at it, but u just
[2:53:42] remembrance. You know, I I talked about
[2:53:44] Tyler Davis. I go outside. We got his
[2:53:45] picture hanging right here before you
[2:53:47] come into city hall. I mean, these are
[2:53:48] things that intrinsic things we need to
[2:53:50] continue in our city to remember the
[2:53:53] things and the sacrifice that occurred.
[2:53:55] So, uh, thank you. uh for putting on the
[2:53:57] event. Thank you for letting us all
[2:53:59] speak and I thought it was a pretty good
[2:54:01] event. That's really all I had tonight.
[2:54:02] » Thank you.
[2:54:04] » So on the uh on that note with uh
[2:54:06] September 11th, Thursday, I saw a pretty
[2:54:09] cool news newscast that talked about a
[2:54:11] shift from never forget to always
[2:54:13] remember and they're pushing for
[2:54:14] education in school to educate about it.
[2:54:16] And I'm thinking it'd be awesome to find
[2:54:18] a way to um you know do something here.
[2:54:21] I know that there's a there's a we just
[2:54:23] did it in Nusa and I know it exists. Um
[2:54:25] there's still lot of um debris and
[2:54:30] wreckage from the Twin Towers that is
[2:54:33] available for free to municipalities to
[2:54:36] put in their lobby or put actually Lom
[2:54:38] Molinda Fire Department. Have you seen
[2:54:39] Lolinda Fire Department's 911 memorial
[2:54:41] hit is incredible. Um
[2:54:44] I'm not advocating we spend money.
[2:54:45] That's that would cost a lot of money to
[2:54:46] do that.
[2:54:47] If we can find a way to incorporate that
[2:54:50] and and shift the conversation from not
[2:54:52] just never forget but always remember so
[2:54:54] that we help you know I got I have
[2:54:56] police officers on my that were well
[2:54:58] that when I used to be a cop now I'm an
[2:54:59] administrator but when I used to be a
[2:55:01] cop uh there was cops on my shift that
[2:55:03] they weren't even alive they're carrying
[2:55:04] a gun now they weren't even alive when
[2:55:06] the Twin Towers fell which is crazy that
[2:55:08] we have law enforcement officers who
[2:55:10] were learning about the the response to
[2:55:12] a terrorist incident in the academy
[2:55:13] because they didn't they weren't alive
[2:55:14] for it. Um, so thank you, Chief, and to
[2:55:18] city staff for the 911 event. Um,
[2:55:21] Chief, I'm glad to see the squad out
[2:55:23] there. It looks nice. Uh, it's taken, I
[2:55:26] think, maybe a year of me having these
[2:55:28] uncomfortable remarks, following every
[2:55:29] public safety, um, update at city
[2:55:32] council meetings, talking about how we
[2:55:33] are failing our people. It's a step in
[2:55:35] the right direction of making sure that
[2:55:36] our first responders are taken care of.
[2:55:38] They're taking care of everybody. It's
[2:55:40] the least we can do as a council to take
[2:55:41] care of them in this way. So, I'm I'm
[2:55:43] happy to see that squad out I want to
[2:55:44] thank my my colleagues on the DIS for
[2:55:46] everything that you guys did to support
[2:55:47] that because that piece of equipment
[2:55:49] right there will save more lives than
[2:55:52] anything that we've done. That that was
[2:55:54] huge and to see that come to fruition is
[2:55:56] awesome. Um I'd also like to take a
[2:55:58] moment to talk about an opportunity
[2:55:59] available to young people in our
[2:56:00] community through the East Valley Young
[2:56:02] Marines. Um outstanding work private
[2:56:04] that was a phenomenal public uh comment.
[2:56:07] Um today my daughter Private Beaver
[2:56:09] spoke about the importance of making a
[2:56:11] commitment to a drug-free lifestyle.
[2:56:12] That commitment is something that young
[2:56:14] Marines take very seriously. But what I
[2:56:16] think is equally important is giving our
[2:56:18] young people something positive to
[2:56:19] commit to. The Young Marines gives young
[2:56:21] men and women an opportunity to build
[2:56:22] leadership, discipline, teamwork,
[2:56:24] confidence, and character while serving
[2:56:25] their communities and honoring our
[2:56:26] veterans. Um the Brazwell's uh
[2:56:30] convolescent homes made a $4,000
[2:56:32] donation. The uniform she's wearing was
[2:56:34] donated by Brazwells. Um we're going to
[2:56:35] be sending our young Marines to talk to
[2:56:37] veterans in the Brazwell convolescent
[2:56:38] homes and serve them meals and just have
[2:56:40] a chat with them. um that that bridge
[2:56:43] between the most senior of our community
[2:56:45] who served and the youngsters who are up
[2:56:47] and coming is huge. It's not just about
[2:56:50] marching and wearing uniform though.
[2:56:51] Looking ahead to 26 and 27, our young
[2:56:54] Marines that serve this community have
[2:56:56] opportunities to participate in
[2:56:56] leadership training conferences around
[2:56:58] the nation, schools, community of uh
[2:57:00] service projects, veterans events, and
[2:57:02] experience that young many young people
[2:57:04] simply don't get anywhere else. their
[2:57:06] opportunities to attend leadership
[2:57:07] schools, public uh develop public
[2:57:08] speaking and teamwork skills,
[2:57:11] participate in physical challenges and
[2:57:12] outdoor activities, and eventually take
[2:57:14] on leadership responsibilities of their
[2:57:15] own. There are so many incredible
[2:57:17] opportunities to learn history firsthand
[2:57:18] and honor people who came before us.
[2:57:20] Young Marines this year participated,
[2:57:21] our young Marines we sent to uh Window
[2:57:24] Rock, Arizona to participate in the
[2:57:25] Navajo Code Talkers. The last Navajo
[2:57:27] code talker just passed away. a World
[2:57:29] War II veteran who used their native
[2:57:31] language to help us win the war uh
[2:57:34] against the Japanese. Uh and there that
[2:57:37] was a not that wasn't a code. That was
[2:57:38] just their language that could not be
[2:57:39] deciphered by any global um intelligence
[2:57:43] agency. They were they had no clue what
[2:57:45] was being said and it was because of our
[2:57:46] the Navajo Native Americans that stepped
[2:57:48] up and fought our for our nation. Um, in
[2:57:51] December, uh, my daughter here and the
[2:57:53] rest of the unit is going to be going to
[2:57:54] Pearl Harbor, laying wreaths at the
[2:57:55] Pearl Harbor memorial in remembrance of
[2:57:56] activities honoring the Americans who
[2:57:58] served and sacrificed there. Then
[2:58:00] there's the fun parts, camps,
[2:58:01] competitions, adventures, trips,
[2:58:03] friendships, and the opportunity to meet
[2:58:04] other young people from across the
[2:58:05] country who share the same commitment to
[2:58:06] leadership and service. That combination
[2:58:09] is what makes the young Marines special.
[2:58:11] Purpose, service, leadership, and fun.
[2:58:12] So, if you have a son or daughter,
[2:58:14] granddaughter, niece, nephew that is
[2:58:16] between the ages of eight and high
[2:58:17] school, please come on down to the
[2:58:18] Redlands Elk Lodge on Saturday, this
[2:58:20] Saturday, the 19th from 9:00 a.m. to 11
[2:58:22] for a parent orientation. Um, we're
[2:58:23] looking to recruit. We want to get more
[2:58:25] and more young men and women involved in
[2:58:27] this program. This is not a recruiting
[2:58:28] tool for the Marine Corps. She does not
[2:58:29] want to be a Marine. She doesn't want to
[2:58:30] join the military. She wants to be a
[2:58:31] nurse, but this is foundational
[2:58:34] leadership that you can use whether you
[2:58:35] want to be in the military, first
[2:58:37] responder, or the CEO of Fortune 100
[2:58:40] Corporation. Um, and so I'm I'm the
[2:58:42] executive officer of this East Valley
[2:58:43] unit in Redlands. I'm happy to be it's a
[2:58:45] it's a volunteer uh assignment. I don't
[2:58:48] have a whole lot of extra time, but I'm
[2:58:49] happy to commit to this because it's
[2:58:50] something that is truly remarkable to
[2:58:52] see these youngsters in a world where
[2:58:55] kids are saying cap and busing and aura
[2:59:00] say yes sir, yes ma'am and commit to an
[2:59:03] obligation of uh representing
[2:59:05] themselves, their parents, and their
[2:59:06] nation in a way that's not going to
[2:59:07] bring native credit upon them. So, um,
[2:59:09] thank you for that, Private Beaver.
[2:59:11] Outstanding work tonight. I'm very very
[2:59:13] proud of you and I love you so much.
[2:59:14] Thanks.
[2:59:16] » All right. [applause]
[2:59:21] » Thank you, Mayor. All right. I've got uh
[2:59:23] three items. The first one I would like
[2:59:27] to call for a review of the city
[2:59:29] manager's contract and his performance.
[2:59:31] He's been here for about seven months.
[2:59:33] We have approved the budget. We've made
[2:59:34] some major purchases. We've got some big
[2:59:36] decisions in the future coming up. I
[2:59:38] think we talked about this when we
[2:59:39] brought the city manager in. So, I think
[2:59:40] it's probably a good time to maybe bring
[2:59:42] that into a close session to uh discuss
[2:59:44] that. So, that's my first item that I
[2:59:46] would like to see in the future.
[2:59:48] Um
[2:59:51] second,
[2:59:53] we've recently had a lot of items about
[2:59:55] the fire department and while I not
[2:59:57] saying that I don't want to support
[2:59:58] them, I do support them. I have got some
[3:00:01] concerns. In the past year, we have
[3:00:04] allocated or authorized to spend over $5
[3:00:07] million for three engines, not to
[3:00:10] mention the two squad trucks we just saw
[3:00:12] out front today. Roughly 80,000 for
[3:00:14] those. Um,
[3:00:16] what we have not spoken about is the
[3:00:18] overall bigger picture. So, I would like
[3:00:21] this item to come back and I would like
[3:00:24] to know, we already asked this question
[3:00:26] earlier tonight from the chief. Do we
[3:00:28] have a place to put those two squad
[3:00:30] trucks? We're full. Uh we have a ladder
[3:00:32] truck that we've ordered that we won't
[3:00:33] see for four years is costing us three
[3:00:35] almost $3 million or around three
[3:00:37] million. I don't know if we've ever
[3:00:40] talked about where it will fit, if it
[3:00:42] can fit. Do we have to retrofit a
[3:00:43] firehouse? Do we have to build a
[3:00:45] firehouse? If we have to build a
[3:00:46] firehouse, do we have land? If we don't
[3:00:48] have land, where are we going to get it?
[3:00:50] So, we have just I think created a chain
[3:00:52] of events where we are going to have to
[3:00:55] spend a lot of money. This was the
[3:00:56] inexpensive purchase. While it was a lot
[3:00:58] of money, um we are going to be faced
[3:01:02] with some significant possibly uh
[3:01:05] additional things we have to do down the
[3:01:06] road. So, I think we need to bring this
[3:01:08] back. We need to bring those things back
[3:01:09] in one item and discuss this uh a little
[3:01:13] further because do we need any special
[3:01:15] accommodations for that fire truck? Um
[3:01:18] what's it going to cost to staff it?
[3:01:19] What's the overhead if we have to build
[3:01:21] another building? Is it $20 million for
[3:01:23] another fire station plus property? So,
[3:01:25] I think and I and I support the fire
[3:01:28] fire department and I think we need
[3:01:29] those things. However, in four years
[3:01:32] when we get a ladder truck, we need to
[3:01:35] have a plan how we're going to pay for
[3:01:37] it uh where it's going to be parked. We
[3:01:40] can't park it outside and let the
[3:01:41] elements degrade it. So, we need to
[3:01:44] figure out, we've talked about this
[3:01:45] multiple times in the past about uh
[3:01:47] revenue, long-term, you know, strategic
[3:01:49] financial planning, things of that
[3:01:50] nature. and um you know, four years to
[3:01:54] come up with a plan to purchase maybe
[3:01:58] significantly a lot more things just to
[3:02:00] house these trucks and and take care of
[3:02:02] that overhead. We really seriously got
[3:02:04] to talk about how we're going to afford
[3:02:06] those things. Um I'm concerned about
[3:02:08] that. So, and I don't know, maybe
[3:02:10] there's some secret squirrel plan in the
[3:02:11] background that some few select people
[3:02:13] know about that I'm not privy to. I
[3:02:15] don't know of any property. I don't know
[3:02:16] that we have a spot to park the truck.
[3:02:18] Um, I think they're significantly bigger
[3:02:20] than our pump trucks if I'm not
[3:02:21] mistaken. So, um, I think those are some
[3:02:24] questions that probably should have been
[3:02:26] asked previously. Um, but weren't that I
[3:02:30] recall. And so, I would like to see that
[3:02:32] bigger overall picture. How we're going
[3:02:33] to fund it? Where where's it going to
[3:02:34] go? How are we going to get there?
[3:02:35] Because we don't have long-term
[3:02:37] financial um, planning going on right
[3:02:38] now. We're doing short-term fixes. We're
[3:02:40] talking about cutting things, not
[3:02:43] spending money on things. We can only do
[3:02:45] that. Council Miller's brought it up
[3:02:46] multiple times. you can only do that so
[3:02:47] far. At some point, we're going to end
[3:02:49] up with nothing. And where do you go
[3:02:51] from there? And we haven't got the
[3:02:52] long-term plan in action. Those
[3:02:53] long-term plans can take a long time to
[3:02:55] come to fruition.
[3:02:57] So, that's item number two. Item number
[3:02:59] three,
[3:03:01] something I I don't want to do, but I
[3:03:03] feel I have a duty to do it.
[3:03:06] Uh recently it came to light that there
[3:03:09] is a uh community in our county that has
[3:03:16] come to find out that there is a company
[3:03:17] that is owned and operated by one of our
[3:03:20] council members and also employs one of
[3:03:23] our city managers, our man city uh
[3:03:24] employees and our fire chief and they
[3:03:28] are [snorts]
[3:03:29] got it on their radar that this is a
[3:03:31] conflict of interest. So I would like
[3:03:33] this item to come back. The name of the
[3:03:34] company is Culper, CU L Per Consulting.
[3:03:38] It is owned and operated by uh Justin
[3:03:40] Beaver. We've got our public service uh
[3:03:44] manager, Trevor Benson, on staff as the
[3:03:46] vice president. And we have the fire
[3:03:48] chief on there as an executive director,
[3:03:51] I believe, is the title. Um I need that
[3:03:54] brought back. I think we need that
[3:03:56] brought back to see if there is a
[3:03:58] conflict of interest. Um other
[3:04:01] communities are have noticed it. it was
[3:04:03] brought to my light. I looked up the
[3:04:05] website. Sure enough, their pictures are
[3:04:06] on there and it describes them. Um, and
[3:04:11] if there's not one, so be it. But I
[3:04:13] think we have a duty to look into it and
[3:04:15] make sure. And also amongst that staff
[3:04:17] report when it uh comes back, I think we
[3:04:20] need to figure out also have we employed
[3:04:22] under the city manager's authority, have
[3:04:24] we employed uh use that that services
[3:04:27] for anything? Culper. Um because I think
[3:04:29] that could also be possibly a conflict
[3:04:31] of interest if we have. So, um those are
[3:04:34] my three items and unfortunately uh as
[3:04:36] we mentioned earlier tonight, someone
[3:04:38] mentioned uh about having uh
[3:04:41] transparency. Uh each and every one of
[3:04:43] us at some point have had to recuse
[3:04:45] ourselves over something and we've had
[3:04:46] to talk about things that maybe we've
[3:04:47] missed or that have come up and I think
[3:04:49] this is one that we need to get in front
[3:04:51] of it before it uh before it hits us in
[3:04:53] the face. So, we need to bring that back
[3:04:55] and discuss it. Please,
[3:04:58] that's all I have. Can the fire
[3:05:00] department discussion go to the public
[3:05:01] safety committee first before it goes to
[3:05:03] full session so we can have the public
[3:05:05] safety committee weigh on it?
[3:05:06] » Say that one more time.
[3:05:07] » The fire department discussion relative
[3:05:09] to the four, five, 10 year plan for the
[3:05:12] fire department and growth go to the
[3:05:14] public safety committee that we have the
[3:05:16] standing public safety committee.
[3:05:17] » I don't have a problem with that, but I
[3:05:18] I do think it needs to come back as a
[3:05:20] public uh
[3:05:22] discussion. Public needs to hear it
[3:05:23] because I I think we got some serious
[3:05:25] dollars ahead of us that I mean and I
[3:05:28] could be wrong. the chief may have a
[3:05:29] plan and we just I'm just not in his
[3:05:30] head. I don't know it. You might know
[3:05:31] it. Um but I I am not uh privy to that
[3:05:36] and I just think this the count the city
[3:05:38] needs to know because we're talking
[3:05:40] about finances and where we're going in
[3:05:42] the long term and my concern is that um
[3:05:47] we are creating a need to spend more
[3:05:49] money that maybe in four years we'll
[3:05:51] have it. Maybe it will be flush in four
[3:05:53] years. Maybe the city wins some major
[3:05:56] lottery. I don't know. Um, but I I don't
[3:05:58] know where it's going to come from. And
[3:05:59] I I just know, you know, when we built
[3:06:01] when the city built the uh sheriff
[3:06:04] station, it was on that spreadsheet. I
[3:06:05] think it was $10 million for the
[3:06:06] sheriff's department. That was 13 years
[3:06:09] ago,
[3:06:10] » I think. So, I'm sure we're not
[3:06:13] comparing apples to apples because they
[3:06:15] have special equipment for exhaust,
[3:06:16] sucking the exhaust out of the bay so it
[3:06:18] doesn't, you know, cause problems in
[3:06:20] their bays. I don't know what special
[3:06:22] considerations need to go into effect
[3:06:23] for um a ladder truck. So, I don't have
[3:06:26] a problem with it going to committee,
[3:06:27] but it I think it needs to come back as
[3:06:28] a public discussion item.
[3:06:31] » Can we agendaize it for the public
[3:06:32] safety committee first?
[3:06:35] » Mayor, council, whatever your direction
[3:06:36] is, we could put it on first. You give
[3:06:38] us direction and then we'll bring it
[3:06:39] back as requested.
[3:06:44] » You have a question.
[3:06:44] » Are you okay with that?
[3:06:46] » With what?
[3:06:46] » The public safety committee hearing that
[3:06:47] first?
[3:06:48] » No, I'd bring it back to the council. We
[3:06:50] don't need to go through another
[3:06:51] committee. I I do have a question
[3:06:53] though. this first I've heard of this.
[3:06:55] Uh do we have some kind of a policy for
[3:06:58] uh employment outside of the city doing
[3:07:01] some other job? Do you have a policy?
[3:07:03] Most cities do.
[3:07:04] » Yes, we do.
[3:07:05] » And was that complied with and followed?
[3:07:08] » I I defer to the city attorney's office,
[3:07:09] but I believe that was that was looked
[3:07:11] at because this question came up.
[3:07:14] » When did that come up?
[3:07:17] Um, so I I can check with HR on when
[3:07:20] they were notified and what checks they
[3:07:23] did. Um, again, I this wasn't on the
[3:07:26] agenda. It wasn't a discussion we were
[3:07:28] planning on having. And we're talking
[3:07:29] about potential employee action, so I'd
[3:07:32] like the opportunity to look at it
[3:07:33] before we answer an open session. Sir,
[3:07:35] » I I deem that you do. Uh, it's first
[3:07:38] I've heard of this. Um, in fact, it's
[3:07:40] quite unusual. So, I would like us to
[3:07:42] have a full report back to us on any
[3:07:44] conflict of interest issues and fully
[3:07:47] fully vetted quite frankly. Um, there's
[3:07:50] some red flags on this. So, let's make
[3:07:52] sure we do the right thing.
[3:07:53] » When when the council is asking about
[3:07:55] conflicts of interest, are we talking
[3:07:57] about the Political Reform Act or 1090?
[3:07:59] Because if that's the case, it may be
[3:08:01] better just to submit this as a request
[3:08:05] for advice to the FPBC.
[3:08:07] » I want some advice from you from this
[3:08:09] seat.
[3:08:10] » Okay.
[3:08:11] I think yes to all of that because um we
[3:08:14] don't know what agreements they may have
[3:08:15] entered into what how they're using
[3:08:17] their positions for this new position
[3:08:18] they're working in. Um I I didn't pull
[3:08:22] it but and it may be that it has just
[3:08:24] hasn't had a chance to be reported yet
[3:08:25] but it doesn't sound like it's been
[3:08:26] reported on a 700 form yet. So I think
[3:08:28] there's a lot of things to look at and
[3:08:30] to figure out make sure it's not a
[3:08:32] conflict of interest all the way around.
[3:08:33] Um, and there's a there's a lot there
[3:08:37] and again this was brought to light and
[3:08:41] I think we need to look into it and I
[3:08:42] think our citizens need uh deserve an
[3:08:44] explanation.
[3:08:46] » Right. Well, uh, we're talking about
[3:08:48] personnel that are under the direction
[3:08:49] of the city manager. So, my
[3:08:51] recommendation would be to ask him to
[3:08:53] look into the matter and bring back a
[3:08:55] report at a future date on whatever his
[3:08:58] findings are. Well, I'd like you to get
[3:09:00] that vetted and then send us
[3:09:01] confidential memo as you do on
[3:09:03] everything else that we can discuss and
[3:09:05] at least even if it's got to go to close
[3:09:07] session to begin um and comprehensively
[3:09:10] tell us what the issue is. I'm not aware
[3:09:12] of this. I I know that I was heard there
[3:09:14] was a consulting company before u my
[3:09:17] council member mentioned that in a
[3:09:18] meeting but um I didn't know we had earn
[3:09:21] employees working for it. So uh I and
[3:09:24] you got to you really look look at the
[3:09:26] broader bush. Now, I'm not going to jump
[3:09:27] to a conclusion.
[3:09:29] I'm going to wait to hear from you and
[3:09:32] hear what you put together for us.
[3:09:33] » It sounds like an outside employment
[3:09:35] issue. So, we'll we'll work.
[3:09:37] » It may be more than that.
[3:09:39] » It may be a point where we have to bring
[3:09:40] in a third party to look at this that's
[3:09:43] disinterested from everything. If
[3:09:45] there's any conflict at all,
[3:09:48] quite frankly,
[3:09:48] » We'll we'll see what we turn up.
[3:09:50] » That's right. So, the these are the
[3:09:52] things from my seat I would like you to
[3:09:53] talk about in your memo when you send it
[3:09:56] to us.
[3:09:56] » Okay.
[3:09:57] » Um I'm still waiting for the memo while
[3:09:59] you bring this subject up about the fire
[3:10:01] department on how it was purchased the
[3:10:03] squad that we had to go to Texas. There
[3:10:05] was supposed to be a follow-up memo memo
[3:10:07] from the city manager on how that was
[3:10:10] done. We found a way to do it is what I
[3:10:12] was told. I I still have nothing in
[3:10:14] writing over that. So, we got several
[3:10:18] issues going here. Uh, again, I don't
[3:10:21] rush to judgment. I just want the facts
[3:10:23] from this seat.
[3:10:25] » Right. If So, I've heard two council
[3:10:27] members ask us to look into that. If the
[3:10:29] mayor or the council has to put as a
[3:10:31] whole to put that on the agenda, we will
[3:10:36] thank you,
[3:10:39] Judy.
[3:10:41] » Okay. Um, I actually took a two-week
[3:10:45] vacation, went to Idaho, visited with my
[3:10:48] daughter, and while I was there, we went
[3:10:50] to a rodeo. We went to the ranchers
[3:10:54] rodeo where the ranchers in the area
[3:10:57] form teams and compete against each
[3:11:00] other. And it was so much fun. It was
[3:11:02] just great. Kind of what I grew up with.
[3:11:05] So, I do love the rodeo. It's a great
[3:11:07] thing. So, I only have two things to uh
[3:11:11] report on. Of course, Friday evening,
[3:11:13] the um city ceremony here for 911. And
[3:11:17] yes, they did a great job. Uh very
[3:11:20] moving. And then Saturday, uh Dr. Moore
[3:11:24] and our mayor and myself went to the
[3:11:27] Elks ceremony, and they always do a
[3:11:30] great job, too. And they actually fed
[3:11:32] us, too. We had a great meal to go with
[3:11:35] it. So, those were my two um things that
[3:11:39] I did in three weeks.
[3:11:41] [laughter]
[3:11:42] » Thank you. You should have heard her
[3:11:45] speech on Saturday if you had a chance.
[3:11:47] Um we were supposed to get it recorded,
[3:11:50] but um uh did you get it recorded?
[3:11:54] » No. Somebody
[3:11:55] » Somebody had one job to do and they
[3:11:58] didn't do it. [laughter]
[3:12:00] » It's a it's a joke between us. Somebody
[3:12:02] was supposed to video it and he forgot.
[3:12:04] So, it's not not a problem. But
[3:12:08] anyways, it was a great speech. If you
[3:12:09] would have if you'd have gone, it was it
[3:12:12] was actually a tearjerger and it was it
[3:12:15] was talking about the people running
[3:12:18] from and talking about the people
[3:12:20] running to uh you know, and it was just
[3:12:22] it was an amazing speech. So, you did a
[3:12:24] great job, Judy.
[3:12:25] » Thank you.
[3:12:25] » But so, [clears throat]
[3:12:27] before I conclude tonight, I' I'd like
[3:12:29] to re recognize Dan Lunham.
[3:12:34] So, [clears throat]
[3:12:35] um, Dan, it's a funny story because I'm
[3:12:38] I'm driving down the boulevard Saturday
[3:12:40] morning to go to the gym and I look at
[3:12:43] this elderly guy picking up trash off
[3:12:45] the, you know, out of the streets over
[3:12:47] by Vans.
[3:12:49] So, I pull off and I I try to find him
[3:12:53] and I can't find him. I can't find him.
[3:12:55] Finally, I'm over by the mattress place
[3:12:57] and I look up and there he is. And so,
[3:12:59] I'm hollering at him. He probably
[3:13:00] thought I was a weirdo,
[3:13:03] but [clears throat] I'm I said, "Sir."
[3:13:04] And he says, "Yeah." I said, "I'm I
[3:13:08] don't you know," I said, "I'm the mayor
[3:13:10] of you Kypa." And he goes, "You're Chris
[3:13:11] Vinnable?" And I said, "Yes, I am." He
[3:13:13] goes, "I read your stories." And I said,
[3:13:16] "How long have you been doing this?" He
[3:13:17] says, "I do it all the time." He says,
[3:13:19] "I pick up I talk to Megan uh once a
[3:13:23] week and I pick up from one to five bags
[3:13:26] of trash in our city every week." And
[3:13:30] this just touched me, you know, that you
[3:13:33] you you see our beautiful city and you
[3:13:35] have this, you know, elderly gentleman.
[3:13:38] He has a a vest on, you know, um safety
[3:13:42] vest and he's walking up and down our
[3:13:44] cities and stuff. And, you know, I just,
[3:13:47] for one thing, I' I'd wish that our our
[3:13:50] community would give him a honk and give
[3:13:51] him a, you know, a boy Dan, you know,
[3:13:54] because that's what makes our city so
[3:13:57] special. And so [clears throat] I had
[3:14:00] Megan look up, you know, and since
[3:14:02] September 2016, Dan has carried or cared
[3:14:06] for both sight uh sides of Yukipa
[3:14:08] Boulevard from Fifth Street to Valley
[3:14:10] Circle parking, picking up letter uh
[3:14:13] litter every Tuesday and and every other
[3:14:15] Saturday. In addition, Dan helps the
[3:14:18] city by reporting code violations and
[3:14:22] areas where streets and sidewalks uh
[3:14:25] need repair.
[3:14:27] So
[3:14:29] on behalf of the city council and the
[3:14:30] entire community, thank you Dan Lunham
[3:14:34] for uh nearly 10 years of faithful
[3:14:37] service and taking such great pride in
[3:14:39] our city. Also, I'd like to thank
[3:14:41] everybody in participation to the cities
[3:14:43] to keep UKIP clean and programs all over
[3:14:46] the volunteers generously give their
[3:14:49] time to make Ukipa cleaner. Your efforts
[3:14:53] are seen and much appreciated. So,
[3:14:58] if you seen Dan out there, give him a
[3:14:59] honk and just, you know, let him know
[3:15:02] that we're all supporting him. So, I
[3:15:03] appreciate you guys. So, the city
[3:15:06] manager have any other ann
[3:15:08] announcements?
[3:15:10] » Yes, mayor. I'd like to introduce um the
[3:15:13] East Valley Young Marines uh private
[3:15:15] beaver. She's going to speak on my
[3:15:17] behalf.
[3:15:19] » All right.
[3:15:20] » Uh there is no ann amount announcements.
[3:15:24] » All right. Thank you.
[3:15:27] » So, the next regular city uh uh council
[3:15:31] council meetings on Monday, September
[3:15:32] 28, 2026.
[3:15:34] » Mr. Mayor.
[3:15:35] » Yes, sir.
[3:15:35] » Sorry to interrupt you. Um you didn't
[3:15:38] say anything about those three items and
[3:15:40] I don't know if staff has direction from
[3:15:42] staff or not to
[3:15:43] » Something I'm going to have to think
[3:15:44] about for
[3:15:44] » So, um I just don't want to let it die
[3:15:46] and just not be addressed. So, if you
[3:15:48] could weigh in on that somehow, please.
[3:15:50] Yeah, I'll I'll be let me get my head
[3:15:53] wrapped around everything that was just
[3:15:54] said tonight and I'll go over the agenda
[3:15:57] and and and I'll I'll let Dr. Moore
[3:16:00] know.
[3:16:01] » Well, we have two council member
[3:16:02] requests.
[3:16:03] » Okay. And that's what I said.
[3:16:07] If you have a problem with that, I don't
[3:16:09] know what to tell you. So, I'll think
[3:16:12] about it. I'll listen to the agenda and
[3:16:15] I'll make comment at it on it on it when
[3:16:17] I'm when I have a better sense of it.
[3:16:20] Okay.
[3:16:24] Are you gonna Okay, thank you very much.
[3:16:28] So, the next regular meeting at City
[3:16:30] Kaiba is Monday, September 28, 2026 and
[3:16:34] the time is
[3:16:36] 8:16 and I'm going to adjourn the
[3:16:38] meeting. Thank you very much for coming.
[3:16:40] » You tried to take some of my money.
[3:16:44] [laughter]
[3:16:44] » I know I did. Tell them.