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Good afternoon, apologies for the delay. I'm calling to order the September zoning meeting, September 21st, and I'd appreciate it if all of you would sign in, please.

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Thank you, all members present. I'd like to turn the pledge of allegiance over to Mr. Fox.

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Thank you. I'd like to now turn the meeting over to Director Moyers for swearing in. All right. If you're here to speak to this body,

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on any item on the agenda either for or against the item, please stand and raise your hand.

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If you plan to speak to this body on any item, please stand and raise your right hand.

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Everybody?

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All right.

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Do you sell them to swear or firm testimony about to give the truth?

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The whole truth and nothing of the truth, so you got to be seated.

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Thank you very much.

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Moving on to amendments to the agenda.

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We have zero ads. We have number nine deferred to October. We have zero withdrawals.

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So could I ask for a motion please to approve the minutes? Motion by Duretz. Second by Russell.

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Tally please.

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Thank you. Motion passes. We do have a couple of members signed up for public form.

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We typically for zoning wait and call public for members at the time the zoning is heard so

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please don't forget that we have forgotten about you.

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I'm looking for approval please at the minutes from the previous meeting.

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Motion by Rawls, second by Holt.

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We are open for voting.

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Anyone wish to change their vote?

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Assess 11-0.

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Thank you so much.

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Item 1, please, Madam.

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item. Item number one is RZ-26-901. It's a resolution, approval, and authorizing a moratorium

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on data centers in Knox County.

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Thank you. Commissioner Durrett.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. Due to my current employment and to avoid any potential conflict

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of entrance perception, I would like to abstain from this.

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But thank you, abstention noted.

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We have a first on this by how could be second by Thompson, discussion, Commissioner Fox.

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Thank you Madam Chair.

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I have a question for Mr. Moeers.

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If we do any, if the commission does anything, if the commission order do anything other than

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approve this, assuming that the commission does not deny it, for instance change any that

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provisions in what was proposed by the Planning Commission? Does that mean it has to return

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back to the Planning Commission? That is an interesting question. It depends on how

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extensive the changes were.

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There's no bright line distinction, but what the courts say

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is that the Planning Commission must advise before you act on any zoning change. The reason

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This has come back to us the second time, is because the courts consider a moratorium

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like this to be a zoning chain.

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So we initially passed this moratorium using our police powers.

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If we do it tonight, it'll also be under the zoning rules and regs.

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So I think it would withstand any kind of scrutiny.

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But if you make significant changes to what the Planning Commission has approved, it might

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have to be sent back for their reconsideration. So, but if we were to lower the peak

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electric

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demand from 10 megawatts to 5 megawatts, would that be a substantial change?

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I would think so. It would certainly give somebody an argument if they wanted that our

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moratorium was not valid. Okay. I would recommend you leave things the way they are, but I'm

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I'm not a commission, so yeah.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments, questions?

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We have a motion in a second on the floor.

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Voting is open.

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Does anyone wish to change their vote?

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Tally, please.

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Motion passes, 10 with one abstention.

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Next item, please.

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Item number two is seven-L-26-RZ.

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It's a request of Michael Gerard, for rezoning from CA General Business to PR plan residential

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up to 12 dwelling units in Acre.

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The property is located at Zero Bionton Beaver Ridge Road, parcel ID, 090 DA, 040401 in the

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6th Commission District.

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Thank you.

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Is the applicant present?

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Mr. Gerand,

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I don't see him.

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We will call this again at the end of the meeting.

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Next item please. Item number 3 is 8-B-26-RZ. It's a request of Randall Buckner for

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rezoning from a agricultural to R.I. low-density residential, the

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property is located at 531-75501-5507 East Emory Road, zero quarry road,

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parcel of the 029, 020302, 020309, 098106, and the 7th Commission District.

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Thank you.

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Is the applicant present?

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Come forward, please.

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If you'd state your name and address for the record.

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Good evening.

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My name is Stephen Ward, PO Box 30654, Hospital Tennessee.

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I'm the surveyor for this project.

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The owner could not be here this evening.

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Thank you, Mr. Ward. Is there any opposition present to this item?

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Seeing none, Director Brooks, if you'd read the recommendation, please.

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Planning commission recommends that county commission approve the RA load and

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see residential sound because it's consistent with the Knox County Comprehensive Plan and surrounding development.

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Thank you. Mr. Ward, would you like to speak to this project?

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Not unless you all have any questions.

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I do look to my fellow commissioners, commissioner Fox.

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Thank you Madam Chair. I do have a question. What, Mr. Ward? Does the owner, and this is here representing the owners, that is correct, sir.

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What does the owner want to do with this property?

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There's a small house on the 30, he wants to break off, he wants to retain the, there's a pond and some acreage that goes back behind KUP substation there on the east side, he wants to retain, and he had to be able to get a zoning that allowed him to go less than 1 acre per lot.

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to do that. That's the general reason for doing it. The land in the back, he decided

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while we were at it to go ahead, and that's all his mother's land that he just inherited.

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He wouldn't take care of it all in one fell swoop.

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He wants to join it all into one, he may at one time. He wants to do it as one big rezoning.

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He does not want to join all the parcels together. He's going to cut off the house that's closest to

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uh, the KB substation, okay, retained the property behind with one of the other tracks

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and then I, he was going to do something with the rear, but I don't remember what his

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plans were, but I know he did want to re-zone all of it simultaneously.

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Is he, is he planning on building something?

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Possibly, he didn't share, he just wanted to get R.A. while we were doing it.

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I told him he could probably do all the pieces at once, um, you know, it's one application

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and you can do multiple parcels, so I told him, best bang for his buck was to do it all at

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at once if he has had intentions of doing that in the future.

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Okay, thank you.

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Are there any other questions, comments?

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Commissioner Bealer, your district,

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I turned it over to you.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I just had a question for Director Snowden, please.

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I drove that property and it's north of Brown Cap.

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Are there any site distance issues

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to your knowledge Director Snowden?

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I don't believe so with this location,

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We've kind of looked at it preliminarily and didn't see any major challenges with access, so I think we'd be okay with that.

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Thank you, sir.

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Do you wish to make a motion?

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Yes, ma'am.

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I'd like to make a motion to approve this Zoning Request up to two units per acre, please, at this location.

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All right.

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We have a motion for two per acre.

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And this, instead of approving the low-density residential, you're specifying to per acre.

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Correct.

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Point of order, is this P, we're approving for going from RA to PR?

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That's what I'm trying to clarify here.

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If I made the request was, I think, from AgriPulse Rule 2, RA, he has no desire to go to PR.

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because PR puts setbacks on there that would probably put the existing structures in violation quite honestly because PR, you get a 35 foot peripheral around the development, which would put all of these properties rather than the rear piece already have structures on them, all the pieces on the road frontage.

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It's only the piece in the rear that I believe backs up the ball field and a separate access off another road that's undeveloped. The others are all currently developed.

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All right. Thank you. Just for clarification, Commissioner Bealer, your motion was for

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PR at 2 per acre?

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I'm okay. I mean, I understand planning commissions.

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I want to make the motion to adopt per

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planning commission up to 2 units per acre.

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Madam Chair, a point of order. I believe that's going to have to go back through planning

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commission, I'd like a director of lawyers to opine.

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I agree.

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The RA zone is a zone that allows how many units per acre in the RA zone can you, it's

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10,000 square feet and 4.

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Roughly four.

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So roughly four without infrastructure.

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So that's by right.

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If we go to PR, which the Planning Commission has not considered, then it would have to be

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referred back to the Planning Commission for their recommendations.

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I'd like to withdraw that motion and open it up for more discussions on it.

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I'm so.

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All right.

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Commissioner Fox.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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That's why I was trying, Mr. Ward, to identify what the owner wants to do with this.

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Because if he came and said, I want to do for units breaker, that might be something that

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would be objectionable to at least some of us.

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and so we need to know in your under oath now and so we're saying what does he

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want to do because if he just wants to you know build another if it's an owner

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that wants to build another home with you know on this track then generally

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the commission will will go along with that but you know if if this is something

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that the owner he wants to build what so we got we got a pawn so we got basically

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six acres, so 24 homes, I don't think that people would be likely to vote for that.

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We need to know, because we might just say no, you know, we make new plans. Understand, matter of saying he's has no intention of doing that. Like I said, there are existing structures on there. This was his mother's property who recently passed. I believe he currently resides on one of the tracks. Believe his son lives in one of the others. The only place we have any intent of doing any development would be in the rear and that's future. He has not told me he just wanted to go ahead and rezone it while we're at it because it was easy enough to add to the request.

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he doesn't have any current plans or sold anybody or anything like that

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the more area. It was just a it was an add on I told him to do what he wanted to

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do with keeping that property in the rear that had to be rezoned to make it

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work that he did not have enough acreage there to cut off the existing house

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keep the pond in the land in the back to with that rezoning and probably my

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mistake but I I suggested that he had the other track down while he was at it just

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to for future housekeeping but now he doesn't have any plans that I'm aware of to

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develop back there in the new future. Okay. And so I'll even

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go as far as say if I don't know if you all can do this, if you

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wanted to just rezone the fronts and leave the back parcel out of

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it, if that can be done without going to planning back to

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planning commission, I would be okay with that. Because that was

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not his immediate concern, was that rear parcel? And this is 5317

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right and trending. Okay, there it is. Yeah. So it's tracked

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in rear that runs behind the others. I don't have the parcel

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number at my fingertips, but I can get it. Mr. Buckner.

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Commissioner Fox, while you're

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looking, would you jacked to someone else speaking? No, I'd be glad to yield. Thank you.

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Commissioner Durea. Thank you Madam Chair. I just wanted to point out and looking at the packet

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for this item, that it's not necessarily rare, but this is an occasion where county staff,

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The Planning Commission both agree on exactly what to do.

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There is no condition, there is no anything else.

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So it does, and I've pulled up the future land use map as it references.

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It's just, there's no, from what I can tell, there was no issue regarding our educationally

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trained staff members and also those that were appointed on the board.

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that it's not a good word. No conditions. No nothing. So and it was on consent. So that that tells me that it's it's fairly.

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That it might be okay to just me forward with it, but just want to point that out because again when staff and in

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planning commission agree it's usually because it's a good thing.

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Commissioner Thompson.

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Thank you, I'm here. Director Brooks, I know I remembered two years ago when I had my

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first item. I'm going through this process. When we're looking at RA versus PR, PR does

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not have a minimum lot size, correct?

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That's, it looks like correct, yes, yeah.

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But RA does have a minimum lot size of 10,000 square feet. Correct. And so while you technically

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could somewhat cluster the houses, there's still a minimum lot size of 10,000 square feet.

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So it's not going to, it's not like you're going to be able to compress all of the density

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into one area.

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So it would have to be spread out somewhat and also accommodate for any potential infrastructures.

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So you're not going to get the true for dwelling units per acre once, if this were to be built

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out to get the full four units per acre because you have to have the setbacks and you have to have

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the road width and all the other things that go along with it. So typically RA is more desirable

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than PR because it does have the middle of a lot size. So just a thought of reference.

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Thank you. Commissioner Huckabee.

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My question for you, sir, is understanding the lot itself. So the back parcel that you

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recommended your client to add on, how do they access that property? Is there an easement?

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I believe it has an easement off of Quarry Road. It's got a Quarry Road address and I believe

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that's where it's access is from. I don't believe it's actually shown on the access is shown

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on KGIS. I'm looking at it right now. I'll phone, but I believe it does have an easement to

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go over to Quarry Road. And that's the other thing. If he was going to develop that, he would

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honestly have to bring it through, probably through one of these other tracks to make it

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It was just an afterthought, and another point to make on that rear piece.

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There is a, from this pond, there is a creek running through there as well, that I know

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well that the county engineering would make us put a buffer along that as well.

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So the density that some might be thinking out here isn't even if we were to develop this

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in the future, we're not talking a 50 lot subdivision, it just doesn't lend itself to it.

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I'm sorry, that's what I do, but this is not one I would tell somebody to try to stick 50 lots on because I don't wait

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there's a way to get it to fit.

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Commissioner Beeler.

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Thank you, Mr. Ward, for that clarification.

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I think my concern was planning commission had the zoning up to 20-29 units and or 24 duplexes.

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But I appreciate you coming to represent your client.

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I'm going to make a motion that we approve this zoning per planning, per planning.

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approval. Thank you. Motion to approve as recommended by Planning Commission. Is there a second?

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I'm sorry. That is your motion. We have a motion by Bill or second by Thompson. Is there any more

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discussion on this?

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Commissioner Fox? Oh but voting is open.

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Does anyone wish to change their vote?

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Boatings closed.

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Passes unanimously, 11-0.

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Good luck with your project, sir.

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Thank you all.

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I have good evening.

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Next item.

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Item number four is 8-c-26-rz.

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It's a request of Christie Gettelman,

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for rezoning from a agricultural

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to R.A. Logensity Residential.

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The property is located at 64-27.

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McFall Road, parcel ID 039, 067 in the 7th Commission District.

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Thank you. Is the applicant present? Come forward, please.

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If you tell us your name and address for the record.

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Hi, my name is Michelle Klein. I'm the daughter of the owners of the property.

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And we're trying to get it ready.

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Okay. And your address is 6427 McFall.

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All right. Hold on.

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Is there any opposition to this project present?

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Seeing none, Director Brooks, if you'd read the recommendation.

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Planning commission recommends that County Commission approve the RA load-in city zone because

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it's consistent with the next kind of comprehensive plan and will bring the property to compliance

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with the zoning code.

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All right.

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Now, would you like to tell us about the project?

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My parents are aging and my dad is a vet and he's on dialysis now.

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And it's just a lot to take care of my property and their property and their property is family property.

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So we are going to sell our house. Well, we have sold our house.

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And we just want to move in a single live trailer so we can help them as they're aging.

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And you know, take care of the property that my grandfather left my mom.

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home. And it's just my dad doing dialysis three days a week. He just he can't

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move that property. He can't clean off the growth that's going to overtake it.

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And, you know, they just need help. I can appreciate that. Does any, do any

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commissioners have any questions? Seeing none, Commissioner Wheeler?

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Well, I'm sure I just had one comment. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Yeah. Well, I was

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going to note that this is the classic example of some individual coming and wanting to take

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it from agricultural to low-density residential, just one individual, not because they wanted

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to build a subdivision, but just because for some reason, low residential, better suites,

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whatever they're trying to do with the property, so I was just noting that for the new commissioners.

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Thank you, and I actually agree with what you're saying, Commissioner Fox, although I will point out just having had it happen in my own district that sometimes we make approvals for certain

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for certain densities or certain land types like RA and then the property ends up being

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sold and even though it's RA and there was no intention of building and I'm not insinuating

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this with you at all at all ma'am but it gets sold and next thing you know you got 40 houses

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is coming in. So at any rate, just a caution that we all may have experienced at one

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time or another. Commissioner Bealer.

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Thank you, ma'am. I think it's noble that you're taking care of your parents. I'm going

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to make a motion that we approved this zoning request for planning commission's unanimous

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decision.

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All right. If you press your motion, we have a motion on the floor by Bealer. Second by

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My hold, is there any more discussion on this item?

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Seeing none, voting is open.

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Thank you, anyone wish to change?

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Voting is closed.

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Motion passes 11-0.

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Next item, please.

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Thank you.

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Good luck with your project.

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The next item is number five.

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It's 8-B-26-PA.

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Request of David?

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in HPE Hill's High Protection, to BP Business Park and HPE Hill's High Protection.

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Properly located at zero East Raccoon Valley Drive, Partial ID 026, 076 Partial in the 7th Commission District.

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Thank you. It's the applicant present.

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Could we have your name and address, sir?

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David Hirsch, 1627, Greenwell Graph.

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Thank you, Mr. Hirsch. Is there any opposition present?

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Senate?

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Seeing none, Director Brooks, would you read the recommendation?

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Planning commission recommends that county commission approve the BP business part

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place type because it's consistent with the established development and changing

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conditions. Thank you. Mr. Hearst, would you like to speak to this project?

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No unless you've got any questions. I intend to build a shop to house Hearst

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excavating company that I'm currently the CEO.

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Thank you.

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Commissioners, any questions?

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Seeing no lights?

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Commissioner Bailer, you're on again.

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Welcome to zoning, huh?

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Yes.

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The owner over here.

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Director Snowden, I just had a quick question on this one.

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Can you, for this rookie commissioner here on the hillside protection?

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That will be all addressed during the design phase and things.

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Yes, sir. We'd work through that in design plan review.

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Okay. Sounds good. Thank you for that. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll go ahead and make a motion that we approve this zoning request because it's right there at the interstate with easy access to interstate per planning's approval.

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Thank you. And motion is made. Second by Commissioner Russell. Is there any more discussion on this item?

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Commissioner Russell?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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No. I see no more lights. Thank you. Voting is open.

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Does anyone wish to change their vote? Voting

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is closed. That passes 11-0. Good luck with your project. Yes, sir. Thank you all.

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Item number six is also a request of William David Hearst. It's item number 8-E-26-RZ.

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Sorry.

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It's for rezoning from CA General Business to the LI Line Industrial, and the property

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description is the same as the previous item.

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Thank you, and I do need your name again for that.

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David Hurst, 1627, Greenwell Drive.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Is any opposition present, seeing none, Commissioner Director Brooks, if you'd read, please?

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Planning Commission recommends that County Commission approve that LI light industrial zone because it's compatible with the surrounding development and changing conditions.

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Thank you. Commissioners, are there any questions?

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You've already spoken to your project, Commissioner Bealer.

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I make a motion that we approve per planning's unanimous consent on this project.

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Thank you.

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First by Bealer.

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Second by Russell, is there any more discussion?

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Seeing non-voting is open.

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Does anyone wish to change their vote? Voting is closed. Passes unanimously.

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Next item, please. Good luck, sir. Item number 7 is 7-0-26-RZ. It's a request of

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Ronda Vineyard for rezoning from A.I.C.R. Holtroll to P.R.P.R.

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residential after three dwelling units per acre, the property is located at 462.

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Lay, Crippin Road, parcel ID 039, 024, part of, partial, I'm sorry, and it's in the 7th Commission District. Thank you. The applicant present.

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Your name and address, please, ma'am.

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My name is Rhonda Vineyard. My address is 7609, Charmwood Way, in Knoxville. 37938, is my zip code. Thank you. Is there any opposition present to speak against the

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item?

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Seeing none. Director Brooks, please.

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Planning Commission recommends that County Commission approve the PR plan

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residential zone up to three dwellings per acre subject to the condition that

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developer provide the Knox County Department of Engineering Public Works. A

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certification from a license surveyor that there's adequate site distance on

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Krippen Road before County Commission approval.

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Thank you. Would you like to speak to your project?

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If there's any questions, I would be glad to answer any.

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All right. Thank you. Commissioner Fox.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I would like to know what your project is.

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It looks like this, how big is your track to land? It looks fairly large. I didn't get the acreage.

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There's 30 acres, but only 18 will be able to be developed.

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Okay. So, 54 houses.

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Yeah, there's three per acre's all they're asking.

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Okay.

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Do you already have, do you already envision what kinds of homes

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homes you seek to build there?

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It's not so, but I think the idea will be three single family homes.

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Single family homes.

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So 54, what, are you, when you say that 18 acres or you're not planning on developing

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on them, is that because those 18 acres are not conducive to placing a home on them, or

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or you wanted to spread them out, could you explain?

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The adjoining property belongs to the owner.

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They all live there, there's three homes,

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and they want to sell it, but of course,

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they want to keep the density down

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because they're going to be right next door to it.

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It looks like, oh, there's a right-of-way,

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an electric wire right-of-way

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that goes through the property, is that right?

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Nothing, I'm aware of.

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This is 4628, Crippin Road.

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4628, correct.

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And 4628, Crippin Road, it says it's actually 69 acres is what I'm looking at, I misspelled

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it.

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Well there's actually that, we're taking half of that and trying to develop, it's 30 acres

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total.

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So the 18 acres, I'm not aware of any kind of easement line or anything like that.

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Madam

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Chair.

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I might ask another question in a minute.

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I'll yield for now.

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Thank you.

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If I may, Commissioner Dirt is next.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I see that in planning commissions approval it was dependent upon adequate site distance on

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has that taken place either Director Snowden or Director?

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Yeah, sorry.

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It has.

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We went back and forth with the surveyor and there is probably only one location that has

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adequate line of sight, but he has confirmed that to our satisfaction.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Good.

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I have family that lives in the condominium complex that's directly across the street.

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So that and and I'm in and out of there quite a bit and so I understand the need for that but if director Snowden is happy then I'm happy. Thank you. Thank you.

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Commissioner Russell.

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Thank you Madam Chair. I just wanted to make sure that the District Commissioner was aware that staff had originally suggested that this be denied.

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and also that there was opposition at the planning commission.

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Commissioner Huckby.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I just want to clarify for Commissioner Fox, in those rezoning packet, because I had the

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same question you did, they do crop out the section, because I noticed that discrepancy.

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I'm going to say it's the left side of the map.

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Right.

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Any other discussion? Commissioner Bealer. Well, do you have an objection? Commissioner

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Fox speaks again. Commissioner Fox. Thank you, Madam Chair. So this question may be directed

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to director Brooks or director Snowden, but okay,

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well, actually, I think I can answer

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So they're just wanting to, you can rezone just a portion of a tract, in other words.

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Yes, that's correct, to me, sir.

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Okay.

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Commissioner Fox, I wanted to also know there is this parcel stops before it gets to there,

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but there is what appears to be either a, either a TVA or KUB easement on the property, but

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they don't go that far to the south, so they stop some distance before that.

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But there is an easement on the parcel, but not on the area that's being resumed.

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Yeah.

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Thank you Commissioner Russell. Thank you Madam Chair. I do have a question for the applicant.

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Do you plan on asking for the remaining property to be resellented at any point in the future?

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No ma'am that's the hillside rich top. I don't think the slopes too big. I don't think we can do

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anything with that.

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Any other comments? Commissioner Wheeler.

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I just had a couple of questions. There were six comments to the planning commission not

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opposing this but had some questions about the zoning request. A lot of side I think

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Director Snowden has addressed that. The increased traffic they estimated 572 trips would

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be an estimate on increasing on that road. Encrypting road doesn't have a shoulder.

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It's not need to disrepair and then some concerns about drainage and things, but did you

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have a chance to talk to any of the property owners adjacent to this property?

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There was one gentleman that came in opposition and he was concerned with drainage but he was

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on the other side of the road and there was not going to be, it really wasn't going

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effect him at all. There was one person that day and so I believe that was resolved.

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And the other question I had there was a concern about the number of units and one of

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the persons that commented to planning was concerned about the 54 units and was curious with

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The two units per acre won't, it didn't pose as a question because they thought 54 units

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was potentially too much for this area, would your customer consider anything less than

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three per acre?

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Absolutely not.

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It would have to be three or more.

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Okay.

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Or three.

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Okay.

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Thank you for that.

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Director Snowden, I just had a quick question on the line of sight.

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But I think we got the letter from the surveyor and then to make sure we have, we're meeting

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the uniform traffic code, we'll, once they design it, we'll make sure we get the coordinates

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together.

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I think we had, you know, I talked about the KGIS had too much tolerance for you.

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You wanted to make sure that we got it more specifically, is that correct?

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00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:51,870
That's correct, Mr. Baylor.

453
00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:58,250
On the back end, before we will sign a plot of creating the lots, we would require them

454
00:38:58,250 --> 00:39:03,430
to have an additional certification that has those real specific measurements and we would

455
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:08,010
verify that as well. So there's a there's a failsafe there to make sure that that before

456
00:39:08,010 --> 00:39:12,430
any audit is created above what they have today that they would certify that.

457
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:13,470
Okay, thank you, sir.

458
00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:25,520
Director Stunders, one more question here. As Crippin Road, is it on

459
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:33,300
the NUX County project for improvement capital improvements or is it, where does it stand

460
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:37,900
on. I know you have a scale and it's objective scale for new asphalt and

461
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:42,160
striping. Where is it on that scale if we recollect? We do not have

462
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:48,600
creeping road on any per se capital plan for roadway improvements. I think we

463
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,820
have we have done some operational improvements on you know the location.

464
00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:57,200
There's a part nearby that there I think that there have been some folks have

465
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,220
some concern about so I know we have done some restriping and some

466
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:05,120
operational improvements in the past, but unfortunately, we do not have any plans to

467
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,720
make large scale or really significant improvements to this location.

468
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:11,860
Thank you, sir.

469
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,540
I guess this is a question for Director Brooks, please.

470
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:28,340
With the increase in traffic on Emory Road, Crippin to Brown Gap has become like, I think

471
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:30,420
planning calls it a minor connector road?

472
00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:33,580
For it to become a major connector road,

473
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,320
does that have to do with volume of trips

474
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,240
or does that have to do with where people are going,

475
00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:41,360
if you understand my question?

476
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:47,580
Well, all the roads are classified in the major road plan.

477
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:49,760
So in order to reclassify it,

478
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,300
have to go through a total of an analysis

479
00:40:53,980 --> 00:41:03,580
to look at how the road functions, how many cars it's carrying, but currently it is classified as a minor collector.

480
00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:08,590
And then, Director

481
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,620
Snowden, just for you again, sorry, I'm just trying to get all this squirt away here.

482
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:20,800
There were 12 traffic accidents, no fatalities, thank goodness, between 2016 and 2024.

483
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,700
4. Now in terms of a rate,

484
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:32,480
can you help me out on that rate 12 per 8 years? Is that below

485
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,220
the average, or I don't mean to put you on the spot, like that, but no. And sadly, I can't

486
00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:43,320
answer that just right now. I would need to, there's some analysis that would have to go

487
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,200
into that. I mean, to put in perspective, kind of perspective, we, there is a traffic

488
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:55,260
it can't, that's closer towards manable highway of 4,200 vehicles a day. That was,

489
00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:05,180
what was that take? In 2025, so the roads essentially carrying about 4,200 cars a day out

490
00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:10,880
there. It's kind of hard to say, I could calculate that rate, but because you're right, that rate

491
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,800
is really what we're mostly worried about because crashes, there are random occurrences by nature

492
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,660
of themselves. So we want to look at that volume versus that. That number of crashes. I can do that.

493
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,420
I just I don't have it readily available right now. Yeah. That's okay. I appreciate that. I

494
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:30,740
the other question I have with the estimated increase in trips to 572.

495
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:38,120
Your criteria to have a transportation set would be 750 or higher and or if there was an

496
00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:43,000
ordinary amount of crashes and fatalities, right? That could trigger a traffic state as well. Is that

497
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,460
correct? Yes, or Amy and I, if we feel like that there's a need for a study

498
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480
regardless of the number of created trips we can certainly ask for one.

499
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:56,220
And this may not be a fair question, but the estimated five or seven two trips

500
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:03,540
as opposed to how many you said per day, how much impact is that going to have? I mean,

501
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:08,940
Crippin Road is a, doesn't have a shoulder? It's an older county road. I mean,

502
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:12,500
is there any way for you to make a judgment on that? That's true.

503
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:17,640
I mean, you know, and it's, you know, if we were to look at a study at this location,

504
00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:21,840
the two things we'd be probably, well, three things we'd be probably focused on is

505
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,680
warn you're right that just a width of the road versus the volume, that's always a concern

506
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,140
because, you know, that creates issues, the line of sight, which they've kind of addressed

507
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:35,580
and then really the percentage, the large percentage of traffic is going to turn left out of here

508
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:36,400
to go to the main highway.

509
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:42,040
I mean, that's going to be the bulk of the traffic and, you know, what does that do to

510
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:49,580
The signalized intersection does the turn lanes down there have enough length to you know to contain that queuing a traffic

511
00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:54,900
So those would be that probably the three things that we would look at what kind of operational improvements

512
00:43:54,900 --> 00:44:02,160
We would they would need to do to mitigate their traffic as well as what might be to add a delay at the intersection of brown gap

513
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,140
Not brown gap. I'm sorry. Thank you. I appreciate that and

514
00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:12,900
then

515
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:17,860
more real quick here on drainage. There was some slopeage on the back side of that.

516
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,860
Miss Fender, maybe you could help me with that. Is hillside protection or is there

517
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:24,520
some sloping on the back side of the property?

518
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:30,020
Yeah, I guess the difference between 18 and 30, that's what's on that hillside.

519
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:35,180
And so we can't do anything that that's part of the slope on the back side of the

520
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:37,220
property, correct? Okay. All right. Thank you for that.

521
00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:52,950
Commissioner Boehler. Commissioner Fox has his light on one more time. Would you object to his?

522
00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:55,870
No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Thank you. Commissioner Fox.

523
00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:59,970
Thank you, ma'am. I'm sure. I do have a question. Are you currently, are you planning on-

524
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,720
On personally developing this, or do you have an agreement with a developer you've already spoken with about getting this developed at three units breaker? Well, you're so ago, the family asked me to sell it. So at that time, I did engage with two or three developers, and they've all made offers, but we've not accepted anything. I will not have anything personal. I will not be doing anything with this development. Right, I understand. I'm just trying to find out if there's already somebody waiting in the wings for this approval to get started.

525
00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:30,580
and, you know, who potentially that developer was.

526
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:36,740
Um, am I at liberty to, I don't think I should say now.

527
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,540
You don't have to.

528
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:40,760
Sorry, but I don't know if they would want their name out there.

529
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,360
I think, uh, Mr. Moore's, I think she's required to answer the question.

530
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:52,410
What was the question?

531
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:55,570
I'm just asking if there have been discussions with the, uh,

532
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:59,450
there's a developer waiting the wings for this rezoning to begin developing the project.

533
00:45:59,450 --> 00:46:00,350
But

534
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:10,840
the question is asking for the specific person in the contractual agree that it's confidential right now, correct.

535
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,900
I don't know if...

536
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:19,000
Well, I don't believe that you can compel her to answer a question like that.

537
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,540
You could vote against her if she fails to.

538
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:27,220
But I don't think this body has the power to require somebody to answer a question.

539
00:46:27,580 --> 00:46:31,520
Okay. Thank you. That's all I have, Madam Chair. Thank you.

540
00:46:31,940 --> 00:46:32,380
Thank you.

541
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:44,100
I make a motion that we approve it per planning's recommendation to 13-0.

542
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,300
No, there's three, three dwelling units per acre.

543
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,240
Madam Chair, I think he was just reading the vote.

544
00:47:00,670 --> 00:47:05,550
I think he was just reading the vote 13-0 from Plain and Commissioner.

545
00:47:06,190 --> 00:47:06,550
Thank you.

546
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:10,790
We have a motion on the floor by Commissioner Baylor, second by hold.

547
00:47:11,050 --> 00:47:12,350
Is there any further discussion?

548
00:47:12,350 --> 00:47:16,490
Yes, I have a commission to make a substitute motion.

549
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:25,560
My substitute motion is to approve this at Duke University Breaker, Plain Residential.

550
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:32,520
Is there a second on Commissioner Fox's second?

551
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:41,860
All right, we have a substitute motion on the floor at two per acre instead of the three,

552
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:50,780
made by Commissioner Fox, second by Russell, is there any discussion on that? Commissioner

553
00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:57,080
Holt? Madam Chair, Commissioner Fox, could you clarify the reason for the substitute

554
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,320
of motion? Certainly. I think that they ought to be transparent

555
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,120
about coming to us and asking for a rezoning. If they're going to conceal things then they

556
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,340
can be entitled to units breaker. That's my reasoning.

557
00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:08,840
Are

558
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:20,870
there any other comments or questions? May I ask Mr. Snowden a question? I mean,

559
00:48:21,410 --> 00:48:25,490
if they're going to approve two, how can I oppose that?

560
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:35,100
I don't know if I can answer that question. I think that may be more legal. You could withdraw

561
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:40,820
the request. I mean, I would necessarily want to provide you advice in that matter, but

562
00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:44,260
Mr. Morgers may be able to provide more legal advice to that.

563
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:46,880
Well, I'm not going to provide legal advice.

564
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:53,940
I would just tell you that if you're not satisfied with the body, you can bring into

565
00:48:53,940 --> 00:48:59,280
Claretory Judgment Action in a court of general jurisdiction in Knox County challenging

566
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,180
the vote of the commission that you're out of appeal.

567
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:04,740
Thank you.

568
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:12,520
I'd like to state that, you know, we are always talking about listening to the recommendations

569
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:25,260
of the commissioner in the zone here and Commissioner Bealer has made the recommendation to follow planning.

570
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:38,080
I'm not sure that it's, I'm not sure that it's wise just because the person presenting is not willing to disclose who might or might not want to develop it,

571
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,360
which may or may not even happen with that person anyway

572
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,920
is really a fair question.

573
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,460
But again, that's my opinion.

574
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,320
Commissioner Huckabee, did you have a comment?

575
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Yes, Madam Chair, thank you.

576
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,940
Ms. Minnard, just to clarify,

577
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,520
you're not the property owner, right?

578
00:49:54,580 --> 00:49:55,880
You're the realtor representing you.

579
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,300
No, they're the remit family.

580
00:49:57,860 --> 00:49:58,520
It's the property.

581
00:49:58,660 --> 00:49:59,420
I'm just the realtor.

582
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,480
And is it under contract with the buyer?

583
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,640
There's not a signed contract, no.

584
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,940
Okay, so it's listed on the public market.

585
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,660
No, it's not.

586
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:07,180
Thank you.

587
00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:08,660
It's not listed.

588
00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:09,620
No, it's not.

589
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:10,040
Okay.

590
00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:19,790
Questions or comments?

591
00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:21,870
All right.

592
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:27,770
Seeing none, the substitute motion on the floor is for two units per acre.

593
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:29,470
Voting is open.

594
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:43,070
Does anyone wish to change their vote?

595
00:50:46,060 --> 00:50:46,840
Voting is closed.

596
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,760
The motion fails.

597
00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:53,400
The substitute motion fails.

598
00:50:53,580 --> 00:51:00,800
So we're back to the original motion, which is to accept as planning proposed at three units per acre.

599
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:04,920
voting is open.

600
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:20,180
Do you see one wish to change their vote?

601
00:51:24,670 --> 00:51:29,410
Mr. Beeler, you made this motion and you're voting against your motions,

602
00:51:29,410 --> 00:51:35,830
is that correct? I'm just asking. I have some concerns about some of those

603
00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:39,530
stains. All right. Do you see one wish to change their vote?

604
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:42,670
But voting is closed,

605
00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:48,880
it passes 6-5, good luck on your project.

606
00:51:49,420 --> 00:51:49,920
Thank you.

607
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,180
Next item, please.

608
00:51:55,660 --> 00:52:00,660
Item number 8 is 8-F-26-RZ.

609
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:06,100
It's a request of Reliance Development for Resonting from PR Plan Residential, up to 5

610
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:12,280
Dwellyn units per acre, to PR Plan Residential, up to 5.25 Dwellyn units per acre.

611
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:23,340
The property is located at 68.06 and 68.12 East Emory Road, parcel of the 020 117 119 in the 8th commission district.

612
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:26,060
Thank you. You are the applicant.

613
00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:34,440
I'm Garrett Tucker with the proper Campbell Associates 7523 Taggart Lane, where the engineering firm on this project.

614
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:35,480
Mr. Tucker?

615
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:36,860
I'm sorry.

616
00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:37,960
Did you say Mr. Tucker?

617
00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:38,880
Yeah, Garrett.

618
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:39,600
Yes.

619
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:39,740
Yes.

620
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:44,320
Is there any opposition present for this rezoning?

621
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,880
Seeing none, Director Brooks, your recommendation.

622
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,700
Planning commission recommends that County Commissioner

623
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:55,900
approve the PR plan resentials on after 5.25 values per acre

624
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:57,940
because it's compatible with Australian development

625
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:00,380
and consistent with previously approved plans.

626
00:53:00,980 --> 00:53:01,800
Thank you.

627
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:04,020
Do you wish to speak to your project, Mr. Tucker?

628
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:06,740
No, but I'd be glad to try to answer any questions.

629
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,740
All right.

630
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:08,960
commissioners.

631
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:16,910
I'm wondering is this a project that's already built and you've got a little room left.

632
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:27,990
Yes, this was done a few years ago. We got concept plan approval. We got design plan approval and everything was approved.

633
00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:37,770
And then what's happened is the surveyed acreage. The original zoning was based on the deed or the KGASA

634
00:53:37,770 --> 00:53:46,550
area of 10.79 acres, and when we surveyed it came out to be 10.14 acres, and in order

635
00:53:46,550 --> 00:53:53,230
to be able to maintain the 53 units that was approved by the Planning Commission, we

636
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:58,550
needed to increase the density to 5.25 dwelling units per acre.

637
00:53:59,930 --> 00:54:03,750
So that's kind of the reason for this request.

638
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:03,850
Yes.

639
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:05,070
Thank you.

640
00:54:06,170 --> 00:54:08,410
Any other comments, questions?

641
00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:11,170
Commissioner Thompson.

642
00:54:12,330 --> 00:54:12,950
Thank you, Madam Chair.

643
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:17,930
Director Brooks, what was the total number of units that were approved in the current

644
00:54:17,930 --> 00:54:18,550
concept plan?

645
00:54:19,610 --> 00:54:20,930
I believe that was 50 units.

646
00:54:21,410 --> 00:54:22,230
50 units?

647
00:54:22,510 --> 00:54:22,730
Correct.

648
00:54:23,250 --> 00:54:23,370
Okay.

649
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,720
I was sorry, 53.

650
00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:28,460
Okay.

651
00:54:28,860 --> 00:54:29,320
Okay.

652
00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:29,780
Yeah.

653
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:29,980
Sorry.

654
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:30,280
Yeah.

655
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:39,840
So they would, so under the current acreage it was approved under, yes, so this would give them a three additional units.

656
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:49,860
Okay, so the concept plan was approved with 53 units with the incorrect survey but with the correct survey, the five-odil units and acre limits it to 50 units.

657
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:58,040
So I would like to make a motion to, since this is more of a clerical area and sort of cleaning it up,

658
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:04,900
I'd like to make a motion to approve the 5.25 billion units an acre with the condition

659
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:09,360
that the total units not exceed 53 units.

660
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:13,740
All right, thank you.

661
00:55:15,020 --> 00:55:22,420
If you don't mind Commissioner, how could we make the motion and Commissioner go for seconded?

662
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,500
I will say mine was an accident, so I will let you make your motion, and I have moved my

663
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:27,700
bet.

664
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,260
Okay.

665
00:55:28,580 --> 00:55:28,920
Thank you.

666
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:37,980
Thank you. All right. Motion made by Thompson. I have a second. By Russell, is there any further discussion?

667
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,600
Seeing none, voting is open.

668
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:58,190
Does anyone wish to change their vote? Voting is closed.

669
00:56:00,250 --> 00:56:03,650
Motion passes 9-2. Good luck with your project, sir. Thank you.

670
00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:04,670
Next

671
00:56:08,030 --> 00:56:15,250
item number nine is deferred to October. However, I do believe our Catherine are the

672
00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:23,530
ad can still here. They had requested to speak there where that has been postponed, but

673
00:56:23,530 --> 00:56:27,630
just as a courtesy since they come down here, I'd be happy to give you.

674
00:56:28,650 --> 00:56:29,810
Catherine, to add to you.

675
00:56:29,810 --> 00:56:30,270
A few minutes.

676
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:30,970
Go ahead.

677
00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:33,050
84-16 Strawberry Plains 5.

678
00:56:33,350 --> 00:56:33,630
All right.

679
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:38,670
This is agriculture's own land.

680
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,750
It borders the properties are all agriculture.

681
00:56:42,670 --> 00:56:46,730
And they're single family homes, and they're mostly third and fourth generation families

682
00:56:46,730 --> 00:56:49,090
that's been there 50-60 years.

683
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:54,530
The comprehensive land use plan did not arbitrarily draw a red line around this property.

684
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:57,990
as MPC Commissioner Gil said at the planning meeting.

685
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:00,950
Those planners knew exactly what they were doing.

686
00:57:01,390 --> 00:57:04,070
They saw all the restraints that are on the property.

687
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:09,450
They saw that it was right in the middle of an old established rule neighborhood and

688
00:57:09,450 --> 00:57:13,730
that the rezoning would forever change the very character of the area.

689
00:57:14,290 --> 00:57:19,450
This is exactly what the planners wanted to protect in the vision that they had for the

690
00:57:19,450 --> 00:57:21,130
comprehensive land use plan.

691
00:57:21,890 --> 00:57:27,550
He has put this off by two meetings, and he has used these delays to keep our neighborhood

692
00:57:27,550 --> 00:57:33,570
in perpetual limbo while working citizens take off work and arrange childcare to show

693
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:34,990
up month after month.

694
00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:42,530
Please do not be deceived by the compromise presented by the developer's new hired attorney.

695
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:51,310
Dropping the request to 2.5 homes per acre is a tactical calculation to silence our widespread

696
00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:53,450
community opposition to this.

697
00:57:54,210 --> 00:58:00,730
An attorney cannot litigate away the dangerous physical realities of this 13 acre track.

698
00:58:01,250 --> 00:58:07,970
Because this property is designated as rural conservation, it contains two creeks, is legally

699
00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:14,210
hillside in wetland protected, your planning rules mandate that 50% of this land must

700
00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:18,530
remain entirely undisturbed if it's allowed to be resolved.

701
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:26,650
The reality is because of all the resetbacks and restrictions that setbacks is unbelievable.

702
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:30,630
50%, that's what we believe because of all the restrictions.

703
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:33,910
The developer cannot spread these homes out safely.

704
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:40,790
He is cramming high-density foundations into the remaining 6.8-buildable acres, which

705
00:58:40,790 --> 00:58:48,350
are tightly bordered by two officially mapped closed depressions that indicate sing-hosts

706
00:58:48,350 --> 00:58:50,430
at the front and sides of the property.

707
00:58:51,250 --> 00:59:00,930
Two matte blue line streams and a huge 150-foot TVA high-tension line that has 150-foot wide

708
00:59:00,930 --> 00:59:03,830
that runs the entire length of the property.

709
00:59:04,650 --> 00:59:08,090
Most critically, this is an immediate public health emergency

710
00:59:08,090 --> 00:59:09,730
that would happen if it's developed.

711
00:59:10,510 --> 00:59:14,750
Our surrounding neighborhood relies on 23 private ground water

712
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:16,230
whales for our drinking water.

713
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:20,150
In a carous landscape feature in these protected wetlands

714
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:25,070
and closed depressions indicates these sink co-service pollution

715
00:59:25,070 --> 00:59:26,930
does not filter out slowly.

716
00:59:26,930 --> 00:59:31,750
It flows directly and instantly into the ground water table.

717
00:59:32,330 --> 00:59:38,890
If you allow heavy grading, blasting and high density runoff on this unstable footprint,

718
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:45,430
you are risking the chemical and bacterial contamination of 23 family-striking water.

719
00:59:46,410 --> 00:59:50,910
A developer's profit margin is not worth a public health crisis.

720
00:59:51,530 --> 00:59:55,910
Ms. Hackens, could you wrap this up since we're not hearing it tonight?

721
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:59,970
We are asking members of the commission to look at the facts of this land and we have prepared that

722
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,440
Important information in the folder for you explaining the many reasons that you should not want this to happen to this old, established rule neighborhood. Just because a new property owner can buy a piece of land does not give him the automatic right to think that he can rezone it to completely change the character of the surrounding area. He knew exactly what he was buying. He knew about all the problems and constraints on this property and he also knew it was completely surrounded. Thank you. Thank you miss. I can thank you.

723
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,100
You're certainly the character of the name back.

724
01:00:30,580 --> 01:00:31,280
Next, thank you.

725
01:00:31,420 --> 01:00:32,220
Thank you, ma'am.

726
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:34,400
Next item, please.

727
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:42,180
The next item is number 10, 8-A-26-PA.

728
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:44,540
It's a request of our Paul Wallace

729
01:00:44,540 --> 01:00:46,460
for Comprehensive Plan Amendment

730
01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:50,180
from SR Suburban Residential and HP Heels High Protection

731
01:00:50,180 --> 01:00:54,840
to RCC for the Crossroads Commercial and HP Heels High Protection.

732
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,020
The property is located at 7729 Strawberry Plains Fight,

733
01:00:59,020 --> 01:01:05,080
8-Portal ID, 07-3-014-03 in the 8th Commission District.

734
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:06,620
Thank you.

735
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,120
The applicant is present.

736
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:11,220
I am Ben Mellon's Faculty West Main Street here for the applicant.

737
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:12,180
Thank you.

738
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,520
Is there any opposition present to speak to this item?

739
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,160
Seeing none, Director Brooks.

740
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,740
Planning Commission recommends that County Commission approve the RCC roll crossroads commercial

741
01:01:24,740 --> 01:01:27,600
place type because of changing conditions in the area.

742
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,340
And it supports the policy's action goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan.

743
01:01:32,340 --> 01:01:33,220
Thank you.

744
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,960
Mr. Mullins, would you like to speak to this project?

745
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Yeah, you're briefly.

746
01:01:38,580 --> 01:01:39,400
I'll speak to this.

747
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,860
Do I need to put the timer on?

748
01:01:41,140 --> 01:01:41,780
I hope not.

749
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,360
I might just ask for it if I could please.

750
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:47,080
Oh, sorry.

751
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:51,480
Five minutes.

752
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,440
We'll give them five.

753
01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:53,040
All right.

754
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:59,860
And I'll try to cover both the zoning and the place type, because it's hard to divorce

755
01:01:59,860 --> 01:02:00,240
the two.

756
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,680
This is a 6.42 acre piece of property.

757
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:08,720
It is a zoned agriculture that currently has a commercial use established on it through

758
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,140
a use unreviewed and that's the big orange pickleball court.

759
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,940
The owner who's here in the back along with the applicant, Mr. Wallace.

760
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:26,960
us. The owner is having, just be frank, it's having difficulty staying in business and is likely

761
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:33,440
will fail unless he found an investor. And so the applicant has come in and wants to rezone the

762
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:40,700
property to this rural crossroads commercial playstop and then a rural commercial zoning to allow him to

763
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:47,640
establish self-storage units on the back portion of the property and that will

764
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,140
then go into business together and I'll help keep up the business the

765
01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:55,320
pickleball court especially until some of the more residences that are already

766
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,160
planned there's an apartment complex being constructed in the city just to the

767
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:05,700
east of this business and you know we think that those additional roofs will

768
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:11,360
help support both businesses and make for a successful operation there.

769
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,460
The Rural Crossroads Commercial is appropriate.

770
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,520
There is Rural Crossroads Commercial Placetype about 300 feet to the east that this body

771
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:25,640
just voted on and approved last month from Mr. Figgins, the pool place, within the Rural

772
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,540
Commercial Zoning.

773
01:03:27,180 --> 01:03:31,620
We selected the Rural Commercial Zoning because it was the most appropriate, you know, that

774
01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:33,480
you've heard in your training.

775
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:38,680
I'm sure when you are considering a rezoning, you not only need to consider what the applicant

776
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,940
intends to do, but in the example that Commissioner Hill did, other potential uses that could

777
01:03:43,940 --> 01:03:45,860
go there in case something does change.

778
01:03:46,260 --> 01:03:50,540
And we acknowledge that's a reality that you need to consider, which is why the world commercial

779
01:03:50,540 --> 01:03:56,300
zone is the most appropriate because it allows limited retail and service uses in a manner

780
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,660
convenient to outline rural areas.

781
01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:03,020
and it goes on to say, and I'm reading from section 5.37 of the zoning ordinance,

782
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,520
development performance standards are included to maximize capability or compatibility,

783
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:12,740
excuse me, between commercial uses and surrounding rural areas and to maintain the

784
01:04:12,740 --> 01:04:18,380
rural character of these areas. So the uses that could go in even if our plan doesn't move

785
01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:24,560
forward would still be and is intended to be compatible with the rural areas. I see

786
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,040
This is a win-win proposition for the current property owner.

787
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,760
He's able to utilize more of his property with a business partner to help keep his business afloat

788
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:38,520
and also provide services that are very convenient to this area when you're talking about self-storage.

789
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,660
I mean, there's about as innocuous as a graveyard as far as the impact.

790
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:50,200
There's very little traffic impact whatsoever to that, but there is a need especially in this area

791
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,380
which is transitioning.

792
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,900
I'm happy to answer any questions.

793
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,040
I could provide a letter outlining all of my rationales.

794
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,080
Happy to go through that.

795
01:05:00,860 --> 01:05:03,420
But we think this is an appropriate use.

796
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,880
And we think with the rural commercial zoning,

797
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,500
it would provide adequate protection to that area as well.

798
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,720
So I'd ask that you approve per planning commission's recommendation.

799
01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:14,340
Happy to answer any questions.

800
01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:15,720
Thank you.

801
01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:21,280
Commissioners, are there any questions about this particular project?

802
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:28,680
Seeing none, I turn this over to Commissioner Thompson.

803
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:41,500
Thank you, Madam Chair. Director Brooks, when we're looking at the rural commercial zone, what are the setbacks from the surrounding property?

804
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:56,680
because I'm just looking at everything around it is is ag rule residential. So what are the if it's if it's self storage, I'm assuming there'll be lighting requirements and extra things like that. So I'm just trying to what are the setbacks?

805
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:01,960
I'm sure I'm pulling it up right now.

806
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:15,990
I apologize for the wait here.

807
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:27,010
So the front yard setbacks and landscaping requirements, there are no less than 35 feet

808
01:06:27,010 --> 01:06:31,710
from the front and side yard setbacks that they're adjacent to residential or agricultural

809
01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:40,130
zones must be set back no less than 25 feet and the side yard is not less than 10 feet.

810
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:41,130
Are

811
01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:47,170
there any requirements for vegetative buffers or anything like that?

812
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:57,630
There are the side yard must be landscaped with a minimum of 1 evergreen tree per every

813
01:06:57,630 --> 01:07:00,270
25 feet proportion thereof of the side yard.

814
01:07:01,770 --> 01:07:04,650
So there are some landscaping requirements, yes.

815
01:07:05,050 --> 01:07:05,210
Okay.

816
01:07:07,530 --> 01:07:35,250
I've gone back and forth with this one because obviously the staff are committed to Nile and Mr. Mullins and I have gone back and forth and you've not really known where I was going to land on this one and but my concern is initially this particular business that's being proposed or being asked to change the comprehensive plan and the zone based on a commercial concept that isn't necessarily clearly defined.

817
01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:44,870
and it's not binding, and so I'm trying to figure out what changing conditions has there been.

818
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:54,250
Yes, Mr. Figgins property last month, we re-zoned, but that was actually an extension of a zone that he already had on his property.

819
01:07:55,870 --> 01:08:02,990
And once we re-zoned it stays, whether this business is a success or a failure moves on, you know.

820
01:08:02,990 --> 01:08:15,530
But if that's if that's the buffer and and the setback, I'm not I don't I'm sympathetic to the the owner's situation.

821
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:30,110
I think it was an ambitious goal and pickleball, you know, it certainly came came in like a lion and hopefully the the new residents that are moving in will love to play pickleball.

822
01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:32,310
I'm sure they'll need storage.

823
01:08:33,210 --> 01:08:41,690
So yes, I've been conflicted on this one, but I will make a motion to approve per

824
01:08:41,690 --> 01:08:42,790
planning commission's recommendation.

825
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:51,350
We have a motion to approve on the floor, a second by Fox.

826
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:53,470
Is there any further discussion on this?

827
01:08:54,890 --> 01:08:56,490
Seeing none, voting is open.

828
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,560
Does anyone wish to change their vote?

829
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:09,900
voting is closed. Passes unanimously. Next item, please.

830
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:18,100
Item number 11, 8-A-26-RZ is also a request of R-Paw Wallace. It's for rezoning from A-A

831
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:23,080
agricultural to CR Rural Commercial and the property description is the same as the previous

832
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:23,460
item.

833
01:09:24,460 --> 01:09:26,960
Thank you. Your name is please.

834
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:29,800
Ben Mellon's 550 West Main Street here for the applicant.

835
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,320
I'm assuming there's still no opposition.

836
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,060
Would you like to continue with more time?

837
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:40,520
Just as there's any additional questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

838
01:09:40,980 --> 01:09:41,420
Thank you.

839
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:42,800
Is there any discussion?

840
01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:50,460
Seeing none, it looks like we already have a motion to accept as presented by Commissioner

841
01:09:50,460 --> 01:09:52,800
Thompson, second by Commissioner Huckby.

842
01:09:53,660 --> 01:09:53,920
Oh, good.

843
01:09:54,260 --> 01:09:56,220
Goodness, did I ask you to read your recommendation?

844
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,220
Please do.

845
01:09:58,220 --> 01:09:59,020
I apologize.

846
01:09:59,940 --> 01:10:08,500
Planning Commission recommends that County Commission approve the CR World Commercial Zone because of changing conditions in the area and it is consistent with the plan designation as amended.

847
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,480
Thank you. Thank you.

848
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:15,660
We have a motion on the floor by Thompson second by Huckabee. Is there any further discussion?

849
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,340
Seeing none, voting is open.

850
01:10:23,330 --> 01:10:25,150
Does anyone wish to change their vote?

851
01:10:26,010 --> 01:10:30,970
voting is closed, passes unanimously. Good luck with your project.

852
01:10:31,170 --> 01:10:31,990
Thank you all very much.

853
01:10:33,130 --> 01:10:34,090
Next item please.

854
01:10:36,430 --> 01:10:36,570
Yes.

855
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:46,160
We're going back to item number two, which is 7-L-26-RZ, a request of Michael Gerard.

856
01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:50,010
Mr. Gerard here.

857
01:10:53,740 --> 01:11:02,000
Right. Without objection, we will move this forward to the October planning zoning meeting.

858
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,420
next item please.

859
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:09,800
I'll make a motion on that.

860
01:11:12,990 --> 01:11:15,630
Motion by Hill, second by Thompson, any objection?

861
01:11:16,730 --> 01:11:19,290
All those in favor? Voting is open.

862
01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:26,850
Anyone wish to change their vote? Voting is closed,

863
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:28,870
passes unanimously. Thank you.

864
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:43,020
I'm ready. The next item is item 12. Ordinance 0-26-8-101.

865
01:11:43,020 --> 01:11:55,760
It's an ordinance amended to not spend any code of index A zoning, Article 6, Section 6.306.40 and 6.90, pertaining to the public notice requirements,

866
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:56,820
and it's invested rights.

867
01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:57,900
This amends ordinance.

868
01:11:58,660 --> 01:12:02,180
O-9-9-130 adopted September 10th,

869
01:12:02,180 --> 01:12:03,680
9-C-9-E.

870
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,200
This is on secondary.

871
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:07,320
Thank you.

872
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:11,040
Commissioner or Director Brooks,

873
01:12:11,180 --> 01:12:12,980
would you like to speak to this?

874
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,040
I'm happy to answer any questions.

875
01:12:20,860 --> 01:12:21,540
Any questions?

876
01:12:22,780 --> 01:12:23,780
Commissioner Fox.

877
01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:25,520
Thank you Madam Chair.

878
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,120
I just want to clarify.

879
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,720
So this basically is just to bring us in line with state law that was passed recently.

880
01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:33,540
Yes, can I show them that's correct.

881
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:40,280
What's the, I did see 15 to 21 days, is there a reason why we're extending that notice?

882
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,900
I mean, I think it's a good thing, I'm just trying to get the information out there.

883
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,320
Again, that's state law, it was the state law that extended to 21 days.

884
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,240
Okay, thank you.

885
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,340
Thank you.

886
01:12:52,460 --> 01:12:53,300
Mr. Cofer.

887
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,660
Thank you, Madam Chair.

888
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,120
Could someone, the law director, maybe explain to me which portions of these amendments

889
01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:11,740
are required by changes in Tennessee law in which ones are actual policy choices for

890
01:13:11,740 --> 01:13:12,420
Knox County?

891
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:17,820
Because as I was reading it, it seemed to be a little bit over there and it's hard to determine

892
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:22,900
what we're obligated to do if you could simplify that a little bit.

893
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:29,500
The best thing part of it is required by state law that Amy, was the notice required

894
01:13:29,500 --> 01:13:30,640
by that change in law, too?

895
01:13:31,420 --> 01:13:32,380
Yes, that's correct.

896
01:13:32,540 --> 01:13:32,700
Okay.

897
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,960
But the biggest change that I noticed was the best thing.

898
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,500
And that's none by the state, and we're really nothing we can do about it.

899
01:13:40,940 --> 01:13:42,620
So we're just putting it in our code.

900
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:48,330
Are there any other questions?

901
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:53,290
Seeing none, we have a motion on the floor by direct, second by Huckabee.

902
01:13:54,230 --> 01:13:55,430
Voting is open.

903
01:14:02,050 --> 01:14:07,370
Does anyone wish to change their vote? Voting is closed. Passes unanimously.

904
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:18,490
Thank you. Public form, we have no one out there. My only other business I just would

905
01:14:18,490 --> 01:14:28,770
like to ask if in an effort to get the workshop proposed that Commissioner Huckabee is looking

906
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:37,690
for is there any day of the week, a single day that is out for anyone on this commission.

907
01:14:42,220 --> 01:14:50,460
Seeing no one speaking to that, then we'll do our best to get the date set and get it lined up as quickly as possible.

908
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,280
Anyone else got anything they'd like to add?

909
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:57,450
Excuse me, Commissioner Duret.

910
01:14:57,450 --> 01:14:59,350
Thank you Madam Chair.

911
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:30,160
This doesn't necessarily pertain to zoning, but I did get this email this afternoon. Knox County is a member of the National Association of counties or NACO, and we have started a new caucus called the mid-sized county caucus. Well, we're still working on the name, but it is just now starting its second year, and I sit on the executive committee for it. I were first, like, caucus-wide meeting.

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will be on Wednesday, September 30th at 12.30 pm, so I'm happy to, in its virtual, so I'm happy to

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forward that information. I'll send it to Drew to send out, but it's interesting to sit on

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there with, we get to hear from various counties across the nation that are around our size, so this

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is from anywhere 300 to 500,000 plus in population. So it's really cool to hear what's happening and to

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I know that we're not alone in all of our issues.

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So, of our ills, thank you.

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Thank you for that, Commissioner Thompson.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I didn't want to end without thank Ms. Adkins for putting these together.

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Thank you all for putting this in.

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I know I wanted to, I guess, recognize how much time and effort you all have been putting

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into this.

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It's been a bit of a community effort.

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I know it's been a long process, and I appreciate your patience and the information you all have put together. Thank you.

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All right. Thank you. Anything else? Do I have a motion to adjourn?

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adjourned first by Russell second by direct everybody says yes and we are adjourned