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[0:00] If you get to my good side, um, but the moon, the public, the fact that I can't get this out of the can.
[0:10] And, uh, in Carolina.
[0:12] Look, there's an infant.
[0:13] No.
[0:14] It's an infant.
[0:15] If you say that man again, you call, I'll personally come over there.
[0:19] He'll be back there.
[0:20] Oh, I, that, that just makes me sick to my stomach.
[0:23] Yes.
[0:24] Don't tell me anything.
[0:25] Don't tell me.
[0:26] No, they don't want anything.
[0:27] I think let him grab him in the arms.
[0:29] That was a gentleman.
[0:31] That was John.
[0:32] He's a, I don't know.
[0:36] That was John.
[0:37] He's bad.
[0:38] This is, uh, is, is, he's a really, really nice guy.
[0:44] I think there's so many first and last, you know, second order.
[0:49] I'm just going to say lose.
[0:52] I swear to god.
[0:54] Oh, I need to check Ray's life, I think.
[1:04] He died four years ago.
[1:07] Yeah.
[1:09] I don't know what's right just clearly.
[1:13] It's a long walk.
[1:16] It's a long walk?
[1:18] Yeah, just 2011.
[1:20] 2011, I don't know if it's Saturday.
[1:24] I don't know if it's a long walk.
[1:26] Well, Bridget left a message that she hasn't called me that.
[1:30] I left her a message yesterday.
[1:32] Tipper's here?
[1:34] Yeah, and call your friend.
[1:37] I'll try her again tomorrow or Wednesday,
[1:41] because I need to get a picture of it
[1:44] so that we can get it.
[1:46] Yeah.
[1:48] I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
[1:55] after this, this.
[1:58] Okay, please.
[2:00] Yeah.
[2:02] I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
[2:07] after this, this.
[2:09] Okay, please.
[2:11] Yeah.
[2:13] I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
[2:19] after this, this.
[2:21] Okay, please.
[2:23] Yeah, before this.
[2:25] Yeah, okay.
[2:27] Move what?
[2:29] First one, after the minutes.
[2:31] Yeah.
[2:33] Because I'm just not trying to get involved in that.
[2:37] Right.
[2:40] Under this right here.
[2:42] Before this.
[2:44] Okay.
[2:46] So one goes up here.
[2:48] Yeah.
[2:50] So instead of the approval and a meeting agenda,
[2:52] you're after that, after the,
[2:54] because y'all have to approve it and move it.
[2:58] So before public comment.
[3:00] It would be, yes.
[3:02] Okay.
[3:10] Okay.
[4:40] No, I'm not getting out of work.
[5:11] Meeting comes to order. Welcome to everyone.
[5:14] I'm glad everyone came out on this cold, cold night.
[5:17] Hopefully we won't keep you here too long.
[5:20] If you could call the roll please.
[5:22] Council Member Alexander?
[5:23] Here.
[5:24] Council Dean?
[5:25] Here.
[5:26] Council Member Flaming?
[5:27] Here.
[5:28] Council Member Patrick?
[5:29] Here.
[5:30] Council Member Conner?
[5:31] Here.
[5:32] Council Member Spangler?
[5:33] Here.
[5:34] Thank you.
[5:35] Please rise for the pledge.
[5:36] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
[5:39] the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
[5:43] indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[5:51] I need approval of minutes for January 5th, 2015.
[5:55] So moved.
[5:56] Second?
[5:57] Second.
[5:58] Discussion?
[5:59] Call the roll please.
[6:00] Council Member Alexander?
[6:01] Yes.
[6:02] Council Member Dean?
[6:03] Yes.
[6:04] Council Member Flaming?
[6:05] Yes.
[6:06] Council Member Patrick?
[6:07] Yes.
[6:08] Thank you.
[6:09] All right.
[6:10] Approval of meeting agenda.
[6:11] I just want to make a correction and then I'm going to ask you to move
[6:14] something.
[6:15] This is the second read, not the first read for the mid-year budget
[6:19] amendment.
[6:20] Please make note for the record.
[6:22] And we have a guest here tonight, two guests.
[6:25] And if I could respectfully ask Council to move the recognition
[6:28] of Halpern bequest up to the next item actually.
[6:32] So they will not have to sit through the rest of the meeting
[6:35] if they do not wish to.
[6:37] Motion to approve meeting agenda with the two changes requested
[6:40] by the mayor.
[6:41] Okay.
[6:42] Second?
[6:43] Second.
[6:44] Discussion?
[6:45] Call the roll please.
[6:46] Council Member Alexander?
[6:47] Yes.
[6:48] Council Member Dean?
[6:49] Yes.
[6:50] Council Member Flaming?
[6:51] Yes.
[6:52] Council Member Patrick?
[6:53] Yes.
[6:54] Council Member Conner?
[6:55] Yes.
[6:56] Council Member Tangler?
[6:57] Yes.
[6:58] Thank you.
[6:59] Recently received a great message from one of our own business
[7:15] leaders in Dorville.
[7:16] Somebody that really requires no introduction in our community,
[7:20] Mr. Halpern, and he brought his sister with him today.
[7:24] But I wanted to make a short acknowledgement of the kindness
[7:30] of the Halpern family.
[7:32] Recently they sent me a letter and they had a donation for
[7:37] $10,000 for the police department.
[7:40] And we wrestled really hard on what we had so many needs
[7:43] in the police department.
[7:44] So we thought about what we could potentially get.
[7:48] Something that honors the wishes of their mother
[7:51] and also the memory of their father,
[7:53] whose name is pretty significant in our community.
[7:58] So what we decided, our officers got together and we bought
[8:02] two pieces of equipment that we greatly needed.
[8:05] One of them is a trauma first aid kit that every patrol
[8:08] officer will have in the patrol car.
[8:10] And especially with all the incidents occurring all over
[8:14] our nation, we want our officers to be able to have
[8:17] a kit that provides them immediate first aid.
[8:21] While the ambulance is on its way, we can provide them
[8:24] something that they can take care of themselves.
[8:26] So one of them is a kit, each one of these would be like this
[8:31] and it's got an Israeli bandage, which is one of the
[8:34] latest innovations in first aid where it clots the blood
[8:39] out of this.
[8:40] If an officer is wounded, you put this bandage and
[8:42] it automatically stops the bleeding.
[8:46] It's a great piece of equipment.
[8:48] And also we're buying these highly reflected top of the
[8:51] line reflective vests that our officers can wear while
[8:55] they're on the freeway, especially for the new DOT
[8:58] requirements, but also that you can imagine a few dangerous
[9:01] for our officers, especially at night.
[9:03] But I wanted to recognize the Halper family for the
[9:07] kindness of this gift and if it could come forward
[9:09] for the Mayor to...
[9:12] We too want to recognize you.
[9:14] You have been a...
[9:15] You and your family have been a pillar in our community
[9:17] for a very, very long time and your mom and dad were
[9:19] just wonderful, wonderful people.
[9:21] And it was such a gracious thing for her to do,
[9:25] to think of our police department.
[9:27] I know she loved the police department and this
[9:30] equipment will be much used.
[9:32] And I just want to personally thank you so much.
[9:34] Thank you.
[9:36] Thank you.
[9:38] Thank you, sir.
[9:40] Thank you very much.
[9:43] Thank you.
[9:49] Thank you, Chief.
[9:54] All right.
[9:55] Next will be public comment.
[10:00] Anyone wishing to make public comment, please come forward.
[10:03] State your name for the clerk and you have three minutes.
[10:06] That's it.
[10:08] Tom Abbott from Northwoods.
[10:10] A couple items I just wanted to bring to the attention.
[10:12] First of all, I'm sorry, Mayor of the council, good evening.
[10:14] But I wanted to bring the attention of the council
[10:16] members, mayor and city people.
[10:18] A couple things we need to start focusing on in our city.
[10:20] One is cleanliness.
[10:22] I walk, go, go a lot and it's dirty.
[10:24] It's just really a mess.
[10:26] We need to start trying to target our businesses
[10:28] or target but work with our businesses
[10:30] to clean things up.
[10:32] Our streets, if you go out to the intersection
[10:34] of Beaufort Highway and 285,
[10:36] it's really the entrance to our city
[10:38] and it's not the prettiest thing.
[10:40] And I know there was a period way back
[10:42] when I was not involved in some things here in Dorville.
[10:44] We had a chance to do something with the state
[10:46] that didn't happen.
[10:48] It might have been the best thing,
[10:50] but we need to look at what we have.
[10:52] If we don't have the money in any budget anywhere
[10:54] to spend the landscape that interchange,
[10:56] at least mow and take care of what's there
[10:58] and trim the shrubbages there
[11:00] and get in agreement with the state
[11:02] to be able to do that.
[11:04] There's concrete islands around the intersection.
[11:06] There's garbage, there's weeds going there.
[11:08] It just looks very, very unbecoming.
[11:10] I'm going to be working on a proposal.
[11:12] I don't have all the information yet.
[11:14] Something that would be,
[11:16] actually, we would be the first community
[11:18] in the entire Metro Atlanta to have it that interchange.
[11:20] After a little more investigating,
[11:22] I have to find out who I have to talk to
[11:24] at the Georgia Department of Transportation
[11:26] to get some information about it.
[11:28] If we can do it, we'll be the first.
[11:30] It would be awesome. It would be a great gateway
[11:32] as we redevelop the GM site.
[11:34] It would be fantastic for people to see this.
[11:36] So I'll be working on that.
[11:38] And then lastly, code enforcement.
[11:40] As you're all getting some emails from our now chairperson,
[11:42] if you will, of the Citizens of Progress,
[11:44] we seem to still have some serious issues
[11:46] with code enforcement in this city,
[11:48] repeat offenders, et cetera.
[11:50] We've got to clean up this city.
[11:52] I'm already seeing an interest as a real estate broker.
[11:54] People looking at our city already wanting to buy here
[11:56] because of what's happening.
[11:58] This is going to be the hottest location in Atlanta
[12:00] so let's get it cleaned up now while we have time.
[12:02] Thank you.
[12:04] Thank you, Mr. Abbott.
[12:08] John Maloney, 35-22 Stuart Road.
[12:10] I'd like to speak about the black ordinance.
[12:12] I'd like to encourage you to pass it.
[12:14] If that helps you a little way with some of our buildings
[12:16] that we've been putting up with.
[12:18] I know the residents on Stuart Road
[12:20] has put up with the building for eight years
[12:22] that the city has done nothing about.
[12:24] And if this will help deal with that building,
[12:26] then I'm for you.
[12:28] Thank you.
[12:30] Thank you, Mr. Maloney.
[12:32] Anyone else?
[12:40] Linda Rollins, Oakland State.
[12:42] This is not really something
[12:44] that the city would have to do,
[12:46] but I'm wondering if the city could have some influence.
[12:48] Lately from watching the news,
[12:50] I've gotten real concerned about
[12:52] if my house caught on fire,
[12:54] do the fire have an impact?
[12:56] If it's caught on fire,
[12:58] do the fire hydrants work?
[13:00] There have been so many
[13:02] fires, especially apartment complexes,
[13:04] and they're chasing around
[13:06] trying to find fire hydrants
[13:08] that work.
[13:10] And I know we had a fire
[13:12] at the corner of Oak Cliff and Pinot,
[13:14] the house on English Oak.
[13:16] Hopefully the fire hydrants
[13:18] worked.
[13:20] But could the city have any influence
[13:22] or ask the cap county?
[13:24] I remember when I've seen
[13:26] a fire hydrant
[13:28] tested,
[13:30] and that's just been a deep concern
[13:32] of mine recently.
[13:34] Do our fire hydrants work?
[13:36] It would be very important if your house
[13:38] caught on fire.
[13:40] Thank you, Ms. Rollins.
[13:42] Those are valid concerns, and Dr. Gillan,
[13:44] I'm sure we can reach out
[13:46] and get that taken care of.
[13:48] Anyone else?
[13:50] Okay, we're going to close that portion
[13:52] here.
[13:58] Thank you, Mayor and Council members,
[14:00] and I will get on
[14:02] to get back in to see what they're
[14:04] ISP rating.
[14:06] That's the insurance service provider
[14:08] to be protesting
[14:10] and rate fire departments
[14:12] on the scale.
[14:14] The PATH Foundation
[14:16] is requesting a resolution
[14:18] supporting GDOT's incorporation
[14:20] as it invokes the 285
[14:22] and 400 entertainment redesign
[14:24] in the Georgia 400 Collective Distribute
[14:26] Projects that are hanging north
[14:28] from the Dadaway.
[14:30] PATH is seeking
[14:32] resolutions from the north to cab cities,
[14:34] the PCIDs,
[14:36] and the other local chambers.
[14:38] So basically they've given us
[14:40] a draft award notice, requesting city council
[14:42] to say
[14:44] that they're just going to support it.
[14:46] That just gives them support
[14:48] and efforts to do that.
[14:50] So this would be part of a very lengthy
[14:52] regional trail system
[14:54] and fits very well into our
[14:56] Parks and Trails Master Plan
[14:58] and planning that's going on.
[15:00] We're just giving you a free resolution. We're going to sign it and get it back to you in the process.
[15:04] Thank you. Is that all you said? Any questions?
[15:07] Ms. O'Connor? Yeah.
[15:09] Do we have any more information than this? And how are we, how will we be involved in it? Is there going to be money?
[15:16] No, ma'am, this is just a resolution of support. They're not asking for any financial contribution.
[15:22] They just want the regional jurisdictions to, say, they support the concept.
[15:29] Okay, no. They're not going to be looking for money?
[15:32] No.
[15:33] We'll be looking to them when we start to do our trail systems to make sure that our trail systems are interconnected to TV systems themselves.
[15:42] Okay. Mr. Patrick?
[15:45] What does the path stand for?
[15:48] I've only heard it referred to as the path foundation. And I've never seen what the act stands for, ma'am.
[15:55] I don't know the next paragraph.
[16:00] This is swimming?
[16:02] Well, two things. There's a couple of paragraphs that look like they're not finished.
[16:08] The first paragraph on the second page. And then the third paragraph on the second page. It looks, yeah, whatever.
[16:22] So I was just curious as to whether, what the completion of those sentences were.
[16:35] I don't know the answer to that question. We provided you with the document. They gave us the...
[16:39] Okay. The only...
[16:44] So I would like to support any efforts for other cities.
[16:51] And we did for the clover leaf for Ashford Dunwoody.
[16:59] This is going north of there. It's not... I don't think Dorival will be seeing any type of connector trails or pedestrian walkways or anything from 400 to Dorival.
[17:21] And if there's $1.05 billion available from the Georgia Department of Transportation, I'm wondering why Dorival didn't apply for some of these funds for our connectivity in Dorival.
[17:43] The $1.05 billion is the price tag on the new interchange, $485 billion. It's something that the PCIDs have been working on for many, many, many years.
[17:53] So that was a process that took a decade to get done. They knew it was a problem.
[18:01] Does there all the questions final?
[18:06] Again, I have... I mean, this is kind of given to us with incomplete paragraphs, and I'm not sure exactly what this plan is.
[18:13] I would have liked to have seen at least a copy of the plan so I could have some reference to what this is about.
[18:18] And it says something, Dorival supports complete streets projects. What is that exactly? What is the complete streets project?
[18:25] Complete streets is a concept of street design that includes bicycles and pedestrians.
[18:32] The design that the developer showed you of New Peachtree Road, and the original design of New Peachtree Road in the SCI plan is a complete street.
[18:41] It has a bike portrayal, pedestrian access, and it's more walk-up.
[18:46] So is that the only example? I mean, this... I'm not going to support this only because I don't know what this is and I don't have enough information on it,
[18:54] but there are a lot of things in here that pique my interest, including... because we don't have a lot of sidewalks in Dorival, period.
[19:02] And it's saying that we have this and we support this, and I see it on paper, but I don't see it in reality.
[19:11] And so, again, this is... I mean, this is just... this seems very...
[19:16] If you want to bring this back and perhaps give us an idea of what this plan is,
[19:22] because I would like to... I can't support this if I don't know what we're talking about.
[19:26] Well, I think the plan itself is simply what they're asking is for GDON to incorporate biking and pedestrian trails in this project.
[19:35] But it makes references here to plans that we don't really have.
[19:40] And again, we have paragraphs here that are... well, this paragraph, the first paragraph on page 3,
[19:47] it is the second layer addresses connectivity between the connected districts
[19:51] and transit villages with pedestrian walkways, comma, shuttle.
[19:55] And then it just ends with nothing.
[19:58] I mean, so I mean, that's what... this is pretty incomplete to ask for.
[20:02] We're just asking us to put this in front of you for the direction.
[20:07] Okay, okay.
[20:09] Okay, does anyone wish to entertain a motion?
[20:11] I would like to make a friendly request to have this, if we could,
[20:15] perhaps added to the meeting of the night, unless that agenda has already been published.
[20:20] Okay.
[20:22] And if we could get a completed resolution, just email the path
[20:27] and ask them what the rest of the verbiage is supposed to be on that paragraph.
[20:32] And if they have any... I don't know if they have any overlays in mind
[20:36] or anything regarding this.
[20:39] I mean, I understand they're just asking for consideration on GDAS design
[20:44] is to also just make it pedestrian and bicycle friendly too.
[20:48] And I think connectivity is definitely something that we need to look forward to the future
[20:54] for connecting our very large project with neighboring cities.
[21:00] So if I could make a request to put this on the agenda for the night.
[21:03] Sandra, this is going to be number two under reports and presentations.
[21:08] If you could please move that to the night.
[21:10] Then Dr. Gillins, if you could come up with additional information, please.
[21:13] I'm exactly going to have to send us a completed resolution.
[21:16] Thank you so much.
[21:18] All righty.
[21:19] There is no public hearings.
[21:20] Unfinished business.
[21:21] The mid-year budget amendment.
[21:22] Second read.
[21:23] Ms. Ferguson, Dr. Gillins.
[21:24] Okay, Elise is on her way up.
[21:26] She walked us through the highlights last time.
[21:30] Thank you.
[21:33] The budget amendment does make some changes to the budget.
[21:39] One of the significant ones was the building of the permit.
[21:44] The permitting.
[21:53] Added funding to accommodate the increase in building permit inspections.
[21:55] Again, the revenues have increased.
[21:57] We've now seen as much revenue in six months as we did the entire year last year.
[22:02] So we have to adjust the expenditure budget to match that.
[22:05] The budget has to balance.
[22:07] It doesn't necessarily mean you'll expend those dollars.
[22:09] It just means the budget has to balance.
[22:11] In aggregate, the overall budget amendment decreases the annual budget by $37,000.
[22:17] Ms. Sandler.
[22:18] Any questions, Mayor?
[22:20] Ms. O'Connor.
[22:21] Yeah.
[22:22] On the general fund.
[22:26] Tell me again about the insurance premium tax.
[22:29] The $127,000, what does that figure represent?
[22:36] Insurance premium tax is what the insurers pay in lieu of occupational tax.
[22:42] Okay.
[22:43] So they get a $50 permit from us and then they report their gross sales or gross receipts
[22:51] and we're having to the insurance commissioner and they pay insurance premium tax.
[22:55] And then the insurance commissioner divvies all that money up to the local governments once a year.
[23:01] Okay.
[23:02] And I saw in a couple of places that this one grant, federal grant has ended.
[23:08] Is that what this figure is here under federal government grants?
[23:12] Yes.
[23:13] We had a pop's grant for two officers.
[23:16] Okay.
[23:17] We got an extension and one of them ran out and so we're reducing the amount of grant money
[23:24] that we're going to get this year because we didn't have a firm date on when it was going to run out
[23:29] when we did the budget originally.
[23:32] Okay.
[23:33] All right.
[23:34] Thank you.
[23:35] No question.
[23:36] No question.
[23:39] Item number 12, capital projects.
[23:41] I believe all my other questions were answered at the previous meeting.
[23:44] But I'd like to question the defunding of project 061 because it was included in the current year budget
[23:53] even though it was completed and paid for within the prior year.
[23:56] Yes.
[23:57] What was 061?
[23:58] It was the roof of the courthouse.
[24:01] Okay.
[24:03] I'd like to know in this budget, and though I was not able to locate it as I was not intently,
[24:12] but just rummaging through the proposed, where is it located for pothole repair?
[24:24] Where do we have monies allocated for pothole repair?
[24:28] Or any monies allocated for pothole repair that would affect the entire city,
[24:37] both residents, businesses, passerbys, commuting people?
[24:45] We don't have money specifically for pothole repair.
[24:50] We have some paving money that can be used for pothole repair if you want to do that.
[24:56] It would still be under the paving bracket.
[24:59] We did not use all of the paving money this year.
[25:07] Is that the capital fund?
[25:09] It's in the capital projects fund, local resources.
[25:22] I thought the LMA was only for paving and not pothole repair.
[25:28] What we did was we took the LMA money and we put our match with it,
[25:33] and then we added additional dollars to that.
[25:36] So it wouldn't technically be the LMA money.
[25:40] All the LMA money has been spent.
[25:42] So there's about $50,000 left in that project that can be used for potholes this year,
[25:48] or it can be carried over to increase what we pay next year.
[25:53] Okay.
[25:54] It's entirely up to your choice.
[25:57] Dr. Gillan, if we're not going to address pothole repair in our budget,
[26:04] then we need to capitalize on DeKalb County.
[26:07] And the roads have become extremely bad to the point of unsafe for all of us.
[26:15] We've been doing the R&P for pothole repair.
[26:17] Can you tell me what the final effect on that?
[26:20] How many times has it been done?
[26:23] And then we'll be bringing it to the council for approval using those dollars.
[26:28] Do you realize how many times that's been said that we're going out for bid for pothole repair?
[26:36] Right.
[26:37] And now we're going out for pothole repair again.
[26:40] Okay, so please do.
[26:42] All right.
[26:44] Christine.
[26:46] That is, in fact, we received, some of us received an email today because there is,
[26:50] it's not even a pothole.
[26:52] It's just a huge cavern on Chestnut.
[26:56] And it's huge.
[26:58] It's massive.
[26:59] And that's something that definitely needs to be repaired.
[27:02] And when I look at that, and I look at some of these costs,
[27:05] like $100,000 for a parks walkability master plan.
[27:09] I mean, while that's nice, there are things in the city that need
[27:12] and require immediate attention and repair because it is so big now,
[27:16] it's potentially car damaging.
[27:19] The Chestnut is a stormwater issue with a sinkhole.
[27:23] And we were having the same cereal was taken going out to take a look at that.
[27:28] At Aztec?
[27:29] Chestnut and Aztec?
[27:30] I have to double check.
[27:32] I know they were going to look at one sinkhole today.
[27:35] Well, that's even worse.
[27:36] I mean, that's a bigger issue because that means a lot more.
[27:39] Well, that's the stormwater.
[27:41] Fun.
[27:43] Right.
[27:44] I mean, but right now, I mean, because I know the one on Jess Norman,
[27:47] there's that the metal plate on top of it.
[27:51] Right.
[27:52] And so these are a lot more costly than just potholes.
[27:55] In any event, whatever it is, again,
[27:57] we're looking at $100,000 for walks walkability master plan
[28:01] when our roads are caving in, which is a big issue.
[28:05] I mean, that's a huge issue for me.
[28:07] It's incredible.
[28:09] And the library renovation.
[28:11] I mean, I think that that's great.
[28:12] And we can talk about that with a couple plans.
[28:14] But I also, I have a lot of concerns with the budget just based on the lack
[28:21] of department heads in the city.
[28:23] And have we funded for that?
[28:25] And are we going out for these positions?
[28:27] I mean, just to see how things operate overall.
[28:32] Well, we don't have.
[28:33] Okay.
[28:34] Well, we don't have anyone in charge of stormwater now.
[28:37] We're contracting services with Keck and Wood.
[28:40] Right.
[28:41] Compliance issues we have with the state and the contractor
[28:43] and the clerk personally at the end of the stormwater issues
[28:45] in the house, the permitting process in the house.
[28:47] So all the tasks that Steve and we're doing.
[28:49] Right.
[28:50] So we're contracting everything out.
[28:52] And that's something that.
[28:53] Stormwater, yes.
[28:54] Okay.
[28:55] Well, stormwater and code enforcement.
[28:57] And we have, we have one guy heading parks and recreation
[29:01] and maintenance.
[29:02] We have one person heading the finance department and HR.
[29:06] We have the chief of police and we have the head of the library.
[29:10] And those are the four department heads we have working
[29:14] for the city directly.
[29:15] Right.
[29:16] We'll be hiring a community development director over the next several months.
[29:20] Okay.
[29:21] All right.
[29:22] Okay.
[29:23] Yeah.
[29:24] I'm good.
[29:25] Right.
[29:26] Does anyone wish to entertain a motion?
[29:27] I make a motion that we approve the mid-year budget amendment.
[29:31] Do I get a second?
[29:35] Second.
[29:37] Okay.
[29:38] Discussion.
[29:40] Call the roll please.
[29:41] Because I remember Alexander.
[29:42] Yes.
[29:43] Because I'm Dean.
[29:44] No.
[29:45] Because I'm Fleming.
[29:46] Yes.
[29:47] Because I'm Patrick.
[29:48] Yes.
[29:49] Because I'm Connor.
[29:50] No.
[29:51] Because I'm Spangler.
[29:52] No.
[29:53] Yes.
[29:56] Okay.
[29:57] We're going to move into the blight ordinance.
[29:59] Okay.
[30:00] Right.
[30:00] I'm sorry, Kathy, one food.
[30:01] Okay.
[30:02] Yes.
[30:03] Okay.
[30:04] Thank you.
[30:05] Second order, please.
[30:06] Okay and turn left this boat away direct to right.
[30:07] Thank you.
[30:08] Do we have a corridor that I think is part of the强たit network
[30:10] We're requesting this direction as the running council would like to go with the Kathy Bruma
[30:13] plan, and in that vein we would like to discuss with the council the scheduling of a retreat
[30:18] without any discussed schedule or anything. We just haven't settled the retreat. We would
[30:23] need to discuss how long the time frame that would be, what time of day it would be, what
[30:27] day of the week, or days of the week it would be. So that's what we're here to input, and
[30:34] also any additional information to require, prior to that.
[30:39] Do you have any suggested dates, Dr. Gillum?
[30:42] Well, I mean, whatever, if you want to do a Monday, you know, we have the three Mondays
[30:47] that are coming up after the 16th, the 23rd, and then here in March after that.
[30:56] Sally's energy.
[30:58] So you're, because we did our sale.
[31:03] So what exactly are you looking for?
[31:06] We didn't get responses from everybody on that.
[31:09] So we'd like everybody in the room to be able to talk about the capital plan itself,
[31:13] and basically we break it into two separate pieces, capital items and capital projects.
[31:18] Capital projects, basically heating and storm water that are coming up in the year,
[31:22] the big projects, and then other things like smaller items.
[31:27] They hit the capital item threshold, but they're not made of capital.
[31:31] So we can keep them separate so we can have a discussion and lay out your priorities
[31:35] for how those expenditures are made throughout the year, and then those will be brought back to you
[31:39] individually to be approved throughout the year as they get left.
[31:44] Ms. O'Connor?
[31:46] Well, we're going to try to come up with a date.
[31:49] I'm very flexible, so it's according to, you know, the schedule for those who work.
[31:54] Okay.
[32:00] February would be easier for me than March.
[32:03] I'll be available all the Mondays and February, including the 16th, maybe.
[32:08] I would have to check and see if we were going to consider doing a Saturday.
[32:14] But I'll be as flexible as I can.
[32:16] Tuesdays and Thursdays, probably Tuesdays and Wednesdays are going to be difficult for me.
[32:20] I've got other family commitments that are in place.
[32:25] Any day but Wednesday.
[32:31] Well, I see that this, to me, would be more than a two or three hour meeting.
[32:38] It could be, yes, ma'am.
[32:40] So, I'm flexible.
[32:49] I'll just make that comment because even though we've set dates and years that we plan on doing it,
[32:57] we need to reevaluate that as well that's already in print because there may be some that need to be put forth sooner than,
[33:09] then later.
[33:10] So, it's not just the ones that we're adding for 17, 18.
[33:15] We need to be looking at the whole thing to determine.
[33:17] Five-year capital plan.
[33:19] Right.
[33:20] Any of those items, year five to year one, if you desire to, then let's go to the launch.
[33:25] So, I think there's a lot of in-depth decision making that we need to do.
[33:33] So, I'm flexible.
[33:35] I'll just make that comment.
[33:36] And if it happens to be on a Saturday the 14th or 21st, those are fine.
[33:42] But I would have to do it in the afternoon.
[33:47] I, again, and I absolutely thrilled that we are going to have a retreat to discuss these things
[33:55] because this council has not yet had the opportunity to talk about these items.
[34:00] And so, there might be some question as to what they even are and how they would or would not benefit the city.
[34:05] So, I think this is a great thing that we're doing.
[34:08] Having said that, I will, I'm available February 16th.
[34:13] I am not going to be available for the two weeks following that date.
[34:18] So, if it's not the 16th, if it's after the 16th of February, then I would prefer it to be in March.
[34:28] Okay, Dr. Gillan, maybe you could pick some dates and let's see where we go with it.
[34:34] I would rather nail it down.
[34:37] Do y'all want to do an all-day Saturday retreat?
[34:41] And how does that, and clearly, I know Christine wants to be involved in that.
[34:45] So, possibly do it after she is back.
[34:49] Is the 16th a holiday?
[34:51] Yes.
[34:54] So, Christine will be out through February, and I know March is hard for you.
[35:01] So, maybe look at March, possibly April, so everyone can be involved.
[35:05] Well, I can do it. I can do it the 16th of February.
[35:07] I mean, after the 19th, I'm going to be unavailable for a couple of weeks.
[35:12] That's a positive statement.
[35:14] Yeah.
[35:16] Well, I don't want to take people away from their loved ones on Valentine's Day.
[35:21] No.
[35:23] I got a cat. It don't matter to me.
[35:26] Just try to be considerate about the weekend.
[35:31] So, how do y'all feel about that Monday, the President's Day?
[35:35] I'm good.
[35:37] Oh, you're not going to be here?
[35:39] Okay.
[35:41] So, let's move into March, then.
[35:44] I am not available any of March.
[35:47] March is off.
[35:49] Okay. Not even on Saturdays?
[35:51] Not even on Saturdays.
[35:52] Okay.
[35:53] My wife is working with Ebola response, so I will not be available.
[35:56] How about the first, around the first of April, first week in April or something?
[36:02] Let's move into that.
[36:06] Well, in that case, that buys us some time.
[36:08] I'll get you some dates.
[36:10] Okay.
[36:12] Okay, so from April.
[36:13] I'll also not suggest a date today.
[36:15] Okay, so April first on, please.
[36:18] Okay.
[36:19] Could you please tell me where we are on the Halpern Park renovation?
[36:22] It's been eight years.
[36:24] Not for the both of you, but it's been eight years for me.
[36:27] March 16th?
[36:32] March, I call.
[36:33] March?
[36:34] March 16th?
[36:36] That's Rick Robertson.
[36:38] It gets out to me.
[36:41] They're not back in yet.
[36:43] Right.
[36:44] So, I think my memory serves.
[36:47] March 16th, council, the bid will come to you for approval.
[36:51] So, that construction can be done.
[36:53] Just a quick question.
[36:55] I thought it said in here that we have to have the comprehensive plan bids back in
[36:59] and begun by July of this year.
[37:03] So, are we jamming ourselves up by pushing it back to April?
[37:08] I mean, is there...
[37:10] We're going to begin working on RFP for you,
[37:12] prior to approving the COD.
[37:14] Okay.
[37:15] We're going to have to bring an RFP for that,
[37:17] and have to be part of the COD.
[37:18] We're going to have to make that decision ahead of us.
[37:20] Okay.
[37:22] Alrighty.
[37:23] Okay, thank you.
[37:24] Anything to say one more thing before we close this out?
[37:26] Sure.
[37:28] If there are projects that y'all want more information about,
[37:31] you'll let me know now so that I can get with the department heads
[37:34] to find more information for you,
[37:37] because I don't really know what else to give you.
[37:41] I don't have a lot of information,
[37:43] but if you will tell me what you need,
[37:45] I will be happy to get with the people that submitted the request
[37:49] and see how they can get the information they want.
[37:52] Thank you.
[37:53] So, Council could respectfully send any questions,
[37:56] comments or suggestions to Dr. Gillan and Ms. Ferguson.
[38:00] That would be much appreciated.
[38:02] Do you want to email the comments or do you want the comments now?
[38:05] If you can email the comments,
[38:07] we can get a call together one side.
[38:10] Okay.
[38:12] For me, it's hard for me to make a decision on whether it's,
[38:16] like I said before, the CIP to me is a wish list.
[38:21] Yes.
[38:22] And so without the communication between the directors and us,
[38:28] face to face so that I can get some idea of whether it's a need,
[38:33] whether they can wait or just a want,
[38:38] then it's hard for me to say, okay,
[38:41] well, I'm going to scratch off the tiling of the bathrooms.
[38:45] You know what I mean?
[38:46] I mean, I don't know what condition.
[38:48] Anyway, so I'm just making that as a comment.
[38:51] Well, could the directors be present?
[38:54] I'm requiring them to be present.
[38:57] Okay.
[38:58] All right.
[38:59] All right.
[39:00] Thank you.
[39:01] Thank you, Ms. Ferguson.
[39:02] And we will next move into the Blight Ordinance.
[39:05] Cecil and Dr. Gillan.
[39:07] Second reading on the Blight Ordinance.
[39:08] As you know, this is an ordinance that reads a property
[39:12] that's provided under the conditions laid out in the ordinance.
[39:16] The tax rate on that, the city's portion of the tax rate
[39:19] on that property will increase seven times.
[39:22] This is for vacated properties.
[39:26] This can't be it for anyone's primary residence.
[39:28] So someone can't be living here.
[39:30] This is for abandoned properties or commercial properties
[39:33] that are blighted.
[39:35] So that's just another tool we're looking forward to deal with
[39:39] some of the issues that we're having in the city.
[39:43] And then through the budget process,
[39:45] we can discuss our regular process of condemnation
[39:50] and demolition of structures.
[39:52] But that takes funding.
[39:53] We're going to get the money back right away
[39:56] and get that back to the state of the property.
[39:58] And that takes a long time.
[40:00] So this is just another tool to encourage the property owners
[40:03] to clean it up themselves.
[40:05] All right.
[40:06] Do you have anything you want to add, Mr. McClelland?
[40:08] I'm going to make this a guest ordinance.
[40:10] I think we talked about it, but if there are any questions,
[40:12] I'd be happy to address them.
[40:14] Thank you.
[40:15] Ms. Allison?
[40:16] I just want to make sure the typo that we mentioned last time
[40:18] is corrected.
[40:20] Should we resolve?
[40:21] Because it wasn't under the where-ask.
[40:26] The city budget instead of budget?
[40:29] Well, I'm certainly not sure.
[40:33] It wasn't fixed on our copy in our agenda packet,
[40:35] that's why I was asking.
[40:39] Is this a card?
[40:40] Yeah, I was thinking of that, too.
[40:42] And there was something else strange, too.
[40:44] I forgot about what that was,
[40:46] but it was like six people who had to do something.
[40:48] And the five residents?
[40:49] Yeah, five, something.
[40:51] Where was that?
[40:52] I lost it.
[40:53] What do you have to mention?
[40:55] I didn't have that provision.
[40:57] That's basically the provision
[40:59] I was talking about from this moment
[41:01] of starting a petition
[41:04] for a provided property.
[41:07] And what it basically does is it reveals on it
[41:11] it is on page seven of sixteen
[41:13] in the right at the top.
[41:15] And what it's talking about
[41:18] is sort of how you move forward
[41:19] if you're going to inspect the property
[41:21] and read the inspection report.
[41:23] And the inspection report is the document
[41:25] where you go in and look at a property
[41:27] to say, yes, this is blighted or it is not blighted.
[41:30] And in that provision, it basically says
[41:32] that the public officer, which is the city manager,
[41:35] can instigate that on his own.
[41:38] There's no need for additional people.
[41:40] But it does require that if it's going to be
[41:43] based upon the residents
[41:45] or a case of a complaint by citizens,
[41:47] you need at least five.
[41:49] So I think what they're doing with that
[41:51] and this ordinance is very closely modern
[41:53] in the state law.
[41:55] What they're to say with that is
[41:57] we're not going to have this be, you know,
[41:59] if somebody shows up and sends them out
[42:01] to inspect their neighbor's property.
[42:03] It has to be reported by five people
[42:05] to sort of reach the threshold of saying
[42:07] it's a community issue.
[42:10] But if there is a property,
[42:12] there's no need to wait for five people
[42:14] because the city manager owns this ordinance
[42:16] or to start that process to any property,
[42:19] not a community city.
[42:21] Theoretically, so we can find about a property.
[42:24] The city manager can stamp with that.
[42:26] But yeah, that's a huge issue.
[42:28] There's no need to wait for five people.
[42:30] But if five people complain
[42:32] and the homeowner says,
[42:34] or the property owner says,
[42:36] oh, no, that's not true,
[42:38] is there some kind of objective way
[42:40] of determining whether or not
[42:42] that was a valid complaint or not?
[42:45] This is only the process
[42:47] that we'll go out and look at.
[42:49] So if five people complain theoretically,
[42:51] we would go out and look.
[42:53] The ordinance says if five people complain,
[42:55] we're going to go look.
[42:57] But once that process starts,
[42:59] that's only the beginning.
[43:01] At that point there's a survey that's done by staff
[43:03] and the building inspector goes out
[43:05] and looks at the property assesses it
[43:07] towards the factors that would show
[43:09] it is a blind property.
[43:11] If you saw the buzzer in the ordinance
[43:13] but it's criminal activity,
[43:15] the advance in code violations,
[43:17] but the ventilation systems aren't working.
[43:21] At that point,
[43:23] the city has to make that inspection report.
[43:26] And only upon reviewing it,
[43:28] the WM said, yes,
[43:29] we believe that meets the criteria
[43:31] of being a blind property.
[43:33] Then that recommendation is made
[43:35] for the city manager.
[43:36] The city manager reviews it,
[43:37] says yes, I agree with that report
[43:39] that it's a blind property.
[43:41] It's reported to the council
[43:43] and served on the property area.
[43:45] So there's a huge step
[43:47] between the initiation of the complaint
[43:49] and the actual finding of a blind property.
[43:52] Okay.
[43:53] All right.
[43:54] Mr. Potter, do you have anything else?
[43:56] No.
[43:57] Is there anything else?
[43:58] No.
[43:59] Mr. Patrick?
[44:00] No.
[44:01] I would like to know what the legal process
[44:03] is for condemnation
[44:05] and demolition by the city.
[44:07] What you have is that could be a different process.
[44:10] The city can condemn property.
[44:12] Just the building inspector has the authority
[44:14] to go out.
[44:15] And it's set out
[44:17] in the International Property Maintenance Code,
[44:20] but it's also an inherent power of the city.
[44:22] I think I often say,
[44:24] this place is too dangerous
[44:26] for anyone to inhabit.
[44:28] That's actually a very sobering process.
[44:30] We make that determination.
[44:32] We post it.
[44:33] It's a police power,
[44:34] and we can do that.
[44:36] Nobody goes in here except to repair it
[44:39] to make it safe again.
[44:41] The hearing it down,
[44:43] it goes through the nuisance process.
[44:46] And basically what you would do is
[44:48] if a property were in an abandoned,
[44:50] derelict condition,
[44:52] you could go in under the nuisance ordinance
[44:55] and say,
[44:56] this property is for a lot of the same reasons
[44:59] that you have the blight.
[45:00] This property is a public nuisance, and it creates a burden on our city, et cetera.
[45:06] And under that ordinance, you move through almost really a similar property of determining, declaring it as a nuisance.
[45:14] You go through a court process where you find it's a nuisance.
[45:17] The owners have an ability to kind of challenge that. It's not a nuisance.
[45:21] You go through the court process, and once you finalize the court process,
[45:27] you can move into a process where you would demolish it, and if you follow the entire nuisance process,
[45:33] upon demolition, you can take those demolition costs and put it as a lien against the property.
[45:39] So in the future, whenever it was sold, the first thing they had to do would be pay you back the cost to tear that down.
[45:46] Different set of ordinances, but we do have nuisance ordinances that we can do that.
[45:51] So how long sort of in your best estimate would it take to condemn a piece of property,
[45:59] go through all of that system, and then the nuisance order ordinance,
[46:07] and go through all of that before we get to approval to demolish the location?
[46:16] It depends if somebody comes in with an armies and they start fighting you every step of the way in appealing.
[46:25] We found it was a nuisance. No, it wasn't a nuisance.
[46:28] Let's go to the spirit court and litigate over whether it was a nuisance.
[46:32] It could be a process, frankly. It can be an expensive process because the legal fees involved in it.
[46:40] So any court action that you would get involved in that, it depends.
[46:45] It depends on your judge, it depends on how significant the opposition is with the bringing in parties.
[46:52] It could easily be a template.
[46:54] Okay, I'm going to ask a question, and if it's a privileged question, please get back to me later on.
[47:01] Have we filed any type of legal remedy, whether it be condemnation or nuisance, for the Star Towers property?
[47:14] I'd like to discuss any particular property.
[47:17] All through record. That's fine. Thank you.
[47:21] Yes, I was going to say that Mr. Maloney and I know of a property that could use little condemnation.
[47:28] Have we spoken to DeKalb County, or is there any interest? This came to the Council before, and it was on the agenda.
[47:36] I put it on the agenda a while ago.
[47:38] I met with DeKalb County about the foreclosure and vacant property registry that has been phenomenally successful.
[47:46] It is not only paying for itself, but they are making so much from that program that they are able to grow and develop it.
[47:56] And I'm just wondering, I've suggested that we talk with DeKalb.
[48:02] I've spoken with them, and I can meet with them again, but I think that just based on the success that DeKalb County has had,
[48:10] it might be something for us to pursue, particularly given the number of vacant properties we have in Doorville.
[48:18] We've been currently developing a vacant property database, but we do have no registration requirement for vacant property.
[48:27] But we're building a database of all the vacant properties in the city limits.
[48:32] Well, the difference is that if you have a registry and you make them register, then it holds them accountable,
[48:38] because apparently the biggest thing is finding the property owners.
[48:41] Even when they go into foreclosure, the banks don't want it well known because they don't want to be responsible for the property
[48:47] or any damage that may result as a result of it being vacant.
[48:52] So that's something that, I mean, this is something different from just a database of what the properties are.
[48:58] They're actually holding those property owners accountable for the upkeep of that property.
[49:04] And it's something entirely, if you would like me to give you information, I can send you information.
[49:11] And I've invited a couple of council people to meet with DeKalb County because they were, and they have the system in place.
[49:18] So for Dorville, it would simply be attaching Dorville to the system that they have in place and then an initial cost and then whatever it is.
[49:27] But again, they have made so much money on it.
[49:30] And at the same time, they've cleaned up their city or their county really, really well.
[49:35] But that might be something that we should at least investigate.
[49:41] That would be fine. Please do.
[49:43] Okay, okay.
[49:45] Alrighty, is this the second rate?
[49:49] Just to confirm, for the record.
[49:52] Okay, anyone wishing to entertain a motion?
[49:54] I make a motion to approve the bite ordinance with the one change correcting the word budge to budget.
[50:02] Second?
[50:03] Second.
[50:04] Discussion?
[50:05] Call the roll please.
[50:06] November Alexander?
[50:07] Yes.
[50:08] Gunther E?
[50:09] Yes.
[50:10] Gunther Clemming?
[50:11] Yes.
[50:12] Gunther Tangler?
[50:13] Yes.
[50:14] Thank you, motion carries.
[50:15] Thank you, Mr. McClendon.
[50:16] All right, next, new business, 2015 pool services.
[50:20] Clive, good to come up here.
[50:22] Here's the pool contract.
[50:24] No big deal.
[50:27] Good evening.
[50:28] Happy Groundhog Day.
[50:31] I bring to you the agreement for the 2015 swim season with Sears Pool Management.
[50:39] They're out of Sandy Springs.
[50:43] Their proposal is very similar to all the rest of them.
[50:47] But they're middle of the pack when it comes to pricing.
[50:51] Their references are very, very good, not just in their customers,
[50:57] but also I talked to several suppliers and trainers,
[51:04] and they all speak very highly of Sears Pool Management.
[51:08] Ms. Alexander?
[51:09] Any questions?
[51:10] No, I guess this is exciting that we're giving somebody else a chance,
[51:15] I think, because we've heard some concerns we had about the lifeguard staffing,
[51:20] and I think it's something extremely important,
[51:22] because safety needs to be concern number one.
[51:25] Thank you.
[51:26] Ms. O'Connor?
[51:27] Yes, I have some questions.
[51:29] I'm glad to see we've got another pool company that we're looking at.
[51:34] I read their proposal,
[51:39] and it says that they'll supply three to four lifeguards plus a manager.
[51:44] So will they have someone who will collect the fees for us?
[51:48] We will still have that.
[51:51] Now, another thing that we discussed last year,
[51:54] I think you and I talked about it,
[51:56] and that is the concession stand.
[51:59] Are we going to have a concession stand?
[52:01] Yes, ma'am.
[52:03] And we're going to have it stocked with snacks and things?
[52:07] We're going to have machines.
[52:09] That's what we're going to do.
[52:10] We're going to use utilized machines.
[52:12] Okay.
[52:13] There's a soft drink machine there currently,
[52:16] but it doesn't have any soft drinks in it.
[52:18] That's correct.
[52:19] So are we going to then stock those machines?
[52:24] No, ma'am.
[52:25] I've got a vendor that's going to come in and place a soda machine and a snack machine.
[52:31] Okay.
[52:33] I also read through, of course, we've discussed this before, too.
[52:38] There's a period of time when school closes,
[52:40] but they're still a month before the pool officially closes, I think.
[52:44] It's like August 7th.
[52:46] Will they keep the pool clean?
[52:50] It still gets dirty.
[52:52] In their proposal, I believe they said twice a week they'll be out.
[52:56] Okay.
[52:57] During that period.
[52:58] Okay.
[52:59] So are we thinking, what about the water aerobics?
[53:03] Are we thinking that we will have the water aerobics?
[53:06] That's not part of their proposal, ma'am.
[53:09] Okay.
[53:10] Once school is back in, all the weekly activity will cease.
[53:16] So that'll be it, but they'll clean the pool?
[53:19] Yes, ma'am.
[53:20] So then we'll just let our residents know that the water aerobics will officially end on August 7th?
[53:25] Yes, ma'am.
[53:26] I believe that's where the date is in here.
[53:36] It's on the H10.
[53:46] And I'll just write it today.
[53:48] I will, too.
[53:49] Let's see.
[53:52] Yes.
[53:56] Yes, August 7th, yes, ma'am.
[54:04] And the lifeguards are under the supervision of the pool company?
[54:10] Yes, ma'am.
[54:11] And they will be, I mean, I did read that they were, you know, with their credentials that they'll all be trained and everything,
[54:17] but I know that this year we'll make sure that we have people who wear their swimsuits
[54:23] and are sitting there and not working hot.
[54:27] Okay.
[54:28] Thank you.
[54:29] Thank you.
[54:30] Mr. Patrick?
[54:31] No questions.
[54:32] No questions.
[54:33] Fleming?
[54:34] I didn't see where that, and maybe I misunderstood you, Mr. Robertson,
[54:37] but I don't believe it's the contractor's responsibility to take care of our furniture for us.
[54:44] It is such a part of the opening procedures.
[55:05] Well, yes, it says cleaning the furniture and arranging it properly.
[55:08] Right.
[55:09] They are required to come in and clean it and place it prior to opening.
[55:14] Is that each opening or the date of opening?
[55:17] That's prior to opening day, yes, ma'am.
[55:20] But they're going to come every single day and clean the furniture and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[55:25] No, ma'am.
[55:26] They will clean it after when we pull it out of storage.
[55:28] They will clean it and prepare it and get it ready for the season.
[55:32] And then it is their requirement to keep the area clean on a daily basis.
[55:38] Yes, ma'am.
[55:39] It is.
[55:40] Yes, ma'am.
[55:47] So we won't have any damaged umbrellas this year?
[55:53] I hope not.
[55:54] I mean, unfortunately there are storms that come through and tear those things up.
[55:59] You know, because truly, I mean, we purchased the furniture.
[56:05] And one would think that our employee, that's a dedicated employee that's there,
[56:11] should make sure that all of our equipment is stored properly by the end of the day.
[56:19] Yes, ma'am.
[56:20] We will ensure that.
[56:21] Not the contractor being the lifeguards on duty.
[56:28] I, you know, do you understand, hopefully understand where I'm coming from?
[56:32] Yes, ma'am.
[56:33] I mean, is it going to be the contractor?
[56:34] I mean, when, if I happen to see any damaged furniture, are we going to go to Sears Pool Service
[56:43] or and say, you need to replace these umbrellas because you didn't take them down at night?
[56:49] Or, you know, tell me.
[56:51] If we conclude that they were negligent in handling that, yes, ma'am, I will.
[56:56] Okay.
[56:57] Yes.
[57:02] Now, this issue came up kind of accidentally or I was made aware of it kind of accidentally
[57:09] because we were paying for a saltwater system in the past,
[57:13] or they told us we were paying for a saltwater system.
[57:16] And I believe he told us that we weren't.
[57:19] It was a chlorine system because we didn't have the capacity to have a saltwater system,
[57:24] yet it was more costly and the city was paying for it according to our contract.
[57:29] So has that been cleared up?
[57:31] And are we now good with chlorine or if it is saltwater, do we have that system in place?
[57:39] Yes, ma'am.
[57:40] Apparently the saltwater system was removed prior to me arriving.
[57:43] I never knew that there was a saltwater system there.
[57:46] Okay.
[57:47] Because it was a big deal.
[57:48] It was a very big deal.
[57:49] But it is, it is a chlorinated pool.
[57:51] Okay.
[57:52] Okay.
[57:53] Anyone wish to entertain a motion to approve the contract for Sears?
[58:00] Make information that we accept the annual municipal pool services proposal from Sears
[58:07] pools contingent upon legal approving the contract.
[58:10] So we'll call it a hangover discussion.
[58:12] Okay.
[58:13] Do I get a second?
[58:14] Second.
[58:15] Discussion?
[58:16] Mm-hmm.
[58:17] It's okay.
[58:18] Oh, I was just going to say who will be the city employee,
[58:21] who will be there on a daily basis.
[58:23] I haven't hired them yet.
[58:25] I will put it back out.
[58:26] But if Rosaria is available, I will certainly have him back.
[58:30] Okay.
[58:31] And he'll be there every day.
[58:32] He will be one of them, yes ma'am.
[58:34] Okay.
[58:35] Okay.
[58:36] All the role, please?
[58:37] Yes.
[58:38] Council Member Alexander?
[58:39] Yes.
[58:40] Councilor Raheem?
[58:41] Yes.
[58:42] Councilor Clemming?
[58:43] Yes.
[58:44] Councilor Patrach?
[58:45] Yes.
[58:46] Councilor Conner?
[58:47] Yes.
[58:48] Councilor Spangler?
[58:49] Yes.
[58:50] No comments.
[58:51] However, John not to put you on the spot.
[58:53] And Dr. Gillan, if you don't mind,
[58:55] there's been some Council Members that missed his introduction.
[58:57] Do you mind John coming up and saying a few words to us?
[59:01] I don't mind.
[59:02] I know he didn't prepare to speak.
[59:04] But just for that.
[59:05] That's why I'm always here.
[59:07] Hold on.
[59:10] Sorry, John.
[59:11] You can get me later.
[59:12] John is here tonight.
[59:13] As you know, Connie is leaving us.
[59:15] And next week, Sandra is going for a 17th meeting.
[59:19] Sandra is going to be gone.
[59:20] So John is going to be filling in.
[59:21] He is gracious enough to take that task on for us.
[59:24] I appreciate that.
[59:27] You're doing an outstanding job.
[59:28] And I apologize for putting you on the spot.
[59:30] However, there was a couple of Council Members that missed your
[59:32] introduction.
[59:33] So if you'll just introduce yourself for us, please.
[59:35] All right.
[59:36] Well, my name is John Hutchins.
[59:38] Started here September the 2nd.
[59:40] Previously from CNN.
[59:42] I've been with CNN for about 15 years.
[59:44] Before that, Air Force.
[59:46] About another almost 10 years there.
[59:48] So you definitely caught me off guard.
[59:50] I was just making a speech.
[59:51] That's okay.
[59:52] I do apologize, guys.
[59:53] But while you're here, we might not see you.
[59:55] We went to a lot of impressive.
[59:57] We were really impressed with the training we had
[59:59] in those students.
[1:00:00] Accounting training was done through the military accounting training programs, but it fit everything
[1:00:04] we were trying to do and his availability was great and he's been doing a great job taking
[1:00:09] a lot of the burden off of Santa and addressing those key issues you all saw in the audit.
[1:00:15] So next year we'd like to see those issues go on.
[1:00:18] And he's a great multitasker. He works the window perfectly.
[1:00:21] He's been really stepped up to the plate during the official tax trip. He's a process
[1:00:24] and we appreciate that. He's a team player and he's done a lot for us.
[1:00:29] We thank you for that very, very much. Thank you.
[1:00:32] Thank you so much.
[1:00:33] You all will be so hard on me a little bit.
[1:00:35] Thank you.
[1:00:37] Ms. Alexander, do you have any comment?
[1:00:39] Uh, Namir? Ms. O'Connor?
[1:00:43] No.
[1:00:48] We have a council member that has a birthday on Thursday, but I'm not going to say who
[1:00:51] it is, so happy birthday.
[1:00:53] It's just someone in purple, but it's okay.
[1:00:57] It's not me, but it's somebody like near me.
[1:01:00] In purple.
[1:01:01] That's right.
[1:01:02] So happy birthday, Ms. Alexander.
[1:01:04] Thank you.
[1:01:05] Miss Dane?
[1:01:06] No.
[1:01:07] Okay, motion to adjourn.
[1:01:08] Second?
[1:01:09] Second.
[1:01:10] Discussion?
[1:01:11] Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:12] Ms. Fleming.
[1:01:13] Call the roll, please.
[1:01:14] Can I have a brown standard?
[1:01:15] Yes.
[1:01:16] Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:17] Yes.
[1:01:18] Ms. Fleming?
[1:01:19] Yes.
[1:01:20] Is it happening?
[1:01:21] Yes.
[1:01:22] Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:23] Yes.
[1:01:24] Thank you so much.
[1:01:25] Thank you.
[1:01:29] Thank you.
[1:01:31] Thank you.
[1:01:33] I'm going to cut with you.
[1:01:37] I called up your name, so I'm going to come back.
[1:01:40] I almost dropped the phone.
[1:01:41] What am I doing?
[1:01:43] Linda, I love your hair.
[1:01:46] It's really nice.
[1:01:48] I love that cut on you.
[1:01:49] Not that it wouldn't matter, because I still have my leg here.
[1:01:52] I saw it and I said I could see it separately and I wouldn't know what it was.
[1:02:01] I'm sorry.
[1:02:02] It works perfect for your face.