1 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:33,380 We're here today. And, uh, Jody Eams is here today. We're talking about internet safety. Jody works, uh, at John severe elementary school. And corporal Eric, foster, foster, and he is with one county schools in SRO. We'll be joining us all seven. You're more than welcome to sit down. You're more than welcome to walk around. We have the capability to be out and follow you wherever you go as you speak. 2 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:53,380 but we're really glad that you all are here. If anyone owns them, has any questions please put it in the chat and Sarah will make sure that we are aware of those questions as we go along and we can answer any questions and as for anyone in the room, please feel free to join in. This is casual and informal. We want you to be informed. 3 00:00:53,380 --> 00:00:56,680 All right, Joni, I'm going to turn it over to you. 4 00:00:57,100 --> 00:01:00,900 Okay, I had been at Johnsyear for this is my 28th year. 5 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:04,080 I was first training, technology, and now STEM. 6 00:01:04,780 --> 00:01:06,960 So I've kind of been around and blocked a few times, 7 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:11,000 but I got interested in Internet safety probably that, 8 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,020 I would say 10 years ago, and ever since, 9 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:17,560 and it's like gotten even more crazy. 10 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:18,500 But, 11 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,380 have everyone had children? 12 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,580 Okay, what do your kids do online? 13 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:33,980 Whether they're little or big. 14 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:39,980 This is the interaction, games, social media, 15 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,460 they've got videos, you two shopping yet. 16 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Absolutely. 17 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,980 Basically, they do everything online now and everything 18 00:01:51,220 --> 00:01:53,600 all because of that little thing that's in their pocket. 19 00:01:56,340 --> 00:01:57,840 The absolute most important thing 20 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:03,200 you're going to think about an internet-site date is communication. Not filters, not firewall, 21 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,920 nothing. Communication is what you need to make sure you remember about the internet-site date. 22 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,360 The more you communicate with your kids, the better. And start young. 23 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:21,140 From a child's perspective, growing up with somebody like yourself, it's 24 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:26,440 preparedness is a huge thing to have the ability to just listen and have open dialogue because 25 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,980 is the other day, children don't have anybody to ask 26 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:31,520 about how life works. 27 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:33,020 They're just throwing into this crazy world 28 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:35,520 and they have no idea how to interact with it 29 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,100 and interpret it and they need somebody like a parent. 30 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Whether it's their parent or somebody else's 31 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,980 to help them learn and understand 32 00:02:42,980 --> 00:02:45,220 and if you're not providing that to your kid, 33 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,280 they're gonna have some problems online, right? 34 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,100 It's just an end of the game. 35 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,580 There's no thought now, whether it is from you 36 00:02:52,580 --> 00:02:53,520 or from their friends. 37 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:59,280 So, the more you talk and communicate with your kids at a very young age, the better. 38 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,420 These are all the things that we're just going to quickly cover today in a part-grade 39 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:09,660 contact, online privacy, online enticement, sexting, extortion, and cyberdolloting. 40 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,940 Alright, if you have a child, I'm going to say 8th and lower. 41 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:18,980 You still need to be having these conversations. 42 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:20,080 This is important. 43 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:20,780 Over here. 44 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,900 8th and younger. 45 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:28,640 looking at inappropriate context content. It is not if they see inappropriate 46 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:34,960 content. Content is when. Every single kid's gonna see it. Whatever computer 47 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,040 device they're on, their phone, their computer, their iPad, their Game Boy, their 48 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:47,100 Switch, whatever they're going to see it. So start talking now. I say, Queens now? 49 00:03:49,780 --> 00:03:50,420 I 50 00:03:50,420 --> 00:03:59,820 the average age, they get a phone. And as soon as they get that phone, it's a whole new world for them. 51 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:06,360 They're going to see all of this stuff. And you think your kid is smarter than that? 52 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:08,500 Not necessarily. 53 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:15,490 Start conversation when they're young. I'm not going to read all this to you, 54 00:04:15,490 --> 00:04:22,270 But I am going to point out, get comfortable talking about uncomfortable topics. 55 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:30,390 If you need to say six, five hundred times out loud, be comfortable with it, do it because 56 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:32,090 you have to bring it up. 57 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:36,970 You have to have those uncomfortable conversations in their little and that's sad. 58 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:39,530 But we have to start doing that. 59 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:42,470 You have to make sure you are working on resiliency. 60 00:04:42,930 --> 00:04:43,870 They're going to see it. 61 00:04:43,870 --> 00:04:47,450 How are you going to teach them about it? 62 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:49,150 How are you going to talk about it? 63 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:51,910 You want them to come to you when this happens. 64 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:54,550 Not freak out, take pictures and then send it 65 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:56,390 to all their friends and go look what I just got. 66 00:04:56,770 --> 00:04:57,730 We don't want that. 67 00:04:58,090 --> 00:05:00,190 We want to make sure they come to us 68 00:05:00,190 --> 00:05:02,910 before they ever start thinking of going to their friends. 69 00:05:03,070 --> 00:05:05,230 And they will, if you've started 70 00:05:05,230 --> 00:05:06,450 those uncomfortable conversations. 71 00:05:09,260 --> 00:05:10,880 All right, inappropriate content. 72 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:12,500 That is almost everything. 73 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:19,780 pornography, except violent hate speech, risky or illegal behavior. All of that is your 74 00:05:19,780 --> 00:05:27,240 inappropriate content. And again, it is when they see it. Not yet. It is when they see 75 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:36,760 it. Make sure you listen. Try not to judge them and then this one. Remain calm inside your 76 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:50,100 But you've got to remain calm and lead it to the kids to ask questions, allow them to ask questions, and please don't be afraid to say, I don't know, let's look that up, let's figure that out together. 77 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:53,840 It's okay if you don't know the answer. 78 00:05:55,140 --> 00:05:59,640 Respecting boundary, please don't confuse that with privacy. 79 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,500 My poor kid, and I'm going to talk about my kid a lot today, so if anybody knows her, 80 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,680 I will deny it that I talked about her. 81 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:14,500 But I tell her all the time there is absolutely no right to privacy in my own, absolutely 82 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:14,960 not. 83 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:17,580 Now, am I going to respect a boundary? 84 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:22,360 Yes, but those boundaries are going to grow as she gets older and she proves that she 85 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,040 can handle it. 86 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:28,020 Otherwise, yep, I'm going to read every single thing you do, I'm going to look at every single 87 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:28,480 thing you do. 88 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:35,080 So when they earn it, okay, move on, but you've got to make sure you are taking, if you 89 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,500 are being proactive, not reactive. 90 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,740 Don't frighten them as a parent. 91 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,860 Listen and try to stay calm. 92 00:06:43,260 --> 00:06:46,780 When you're freaking out in your head, they're thinking you're listening. 93 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,880 So you just keep saying, saying what was I going to say? 94 00:06:51,260 --> 00:06:54,260 And then as they're talking, and the more they talk, the better. 95 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Let them talk. 96 00:06:56,420 --> 00:06:57,320 Answer their question. 97 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,480 and if absolutely necessary, report it. 98 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Absolutely, report it. 99 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,900 What they should do, something that I think is very important, 100 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:09,700 I don't know from a law enforcement, 101 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,640 but use the back button, turn off the screen, 102 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,820 but don't exit. 103 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,940 The more evidence you have, the better. 104 00:07:21,420 --> 00:07:22,960 Keep it, screenshot it. 105 00:07:23,020 --> 00:07:25,800 Do all that things stuff when you're alone with it, 106 00:07:26,260 --> 00:07:27,980 but teach them, okay, wait, 107 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:33,260 I'm just going to close the screen or I'm just going to hour off or you know click my thing put it 108 00:07:33,260 --> 00:07:38,100 to sleep so that you can see it and that you can help save it and work for it. 109 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:47,420 Privacy settings is huge. Any of the gains that those kids are playing and in the social media, 110 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:53,840 you need to be involved with all of the privacy settings. Get in there and dig. You can't miss 111 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,820 something uh or that's my first friend's coming. You can't really miss things up. The tighter 112 00:07:59,820 --> 00:08:04,000 your privacy studies actually the better. And then as I get older, obviously you can start doing 113 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:10,700 things. Reporting and blocking, blocking is really, really important. Block those people. Talk to 114 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:17,620 them about blocking them. I have a story about my kid. She was, she does not have a phone. She's 12. 115 00:08:18,220 --> 00:08:24,740 She has an iPad. I let her do messenger. That's the only thing because I can control who she talks to 116 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:26,660 and I can see every word she tells. 117 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,680 She actually said to me when she's a mom, 118 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:31,740 I deleted a friend, I was like, 119 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:33,020 well, why? 120 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,020 She said, well, they just aren't being very nice. 121 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:38,660 I'm like, oh, hello, yeah, there was a woman. 122 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 She was able to block that kid 123 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:45,340 without ever coming to me, which was lovely. 124 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Online privacy. 125 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:50,440 That is not something new. 126 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:54,020 We've talked about online privacy a lot. 127 00:08:54,740 --> 00:09:04,660 And sadly, parents are the worst about unintentionally giving out your location and private information. 128 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Are there unknown people on online games that your kids play online games? 129 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:18,090 Are the people that they talk to and chat with and play with always do they say they are? 130 00:09:20,170 --> 00:09:24,450 No, they are not. So remember that. Now you all can read all of that. 131 00:09:24,450 --> 00:09:29,850 But remember that, there's online games, so your kids playing will go and grow blocks 132 00:09:29,850 --> 00:09:32,250 because that's younger kids, row blocks. 133 00:09:32,850 --> 00:09:37,010 They're a chat with this person and they've met, they're on the same level, blah, blah, 134 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:37,310 blah. 135 00:09:37,650 --> 00:09:37,890 Oh 136 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,200 my kid would never give out personal information ever, we talk about all the time, which you 137 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:46,880 probably do. 138 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:54,680 But parents are going to be posting, hey, my little girl did such a good job at her John 139 00:09:54,680 --> 00:10:05,820 your Fox cheer team. Okay this person who is not a child now knows who the mother is, now 140 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:11,900 knows they are a junk severe fox. Now can Google what the schedule is for the ball game and 141 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:17,140 now they're sitting in the audience watching your kid. Then they come back online saying hey, 142 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:24,760 how much you're okay. You are really good in your cheer. So it's like parents. We love our kids, 143 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:32,100 we drag on our kids. Just be careful of unintentionally telling these people where to find your kids. 144 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:33,460 It's scary. 145 00:10:40,450 --> 00:10:42,950 I'm going to admit it someone. Oh okay. 146 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,580 There we go. So what can you do? Obviously you can 147 00:10:49,580 --> 00:10:52,460 read all this. The biggest thing here is your privacy 148 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:56,560 setting and talk about your friend's list. Know who your 149 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,420 kids are talking to. Make sure that there's somebody that 150 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:05,360 maybe they know in person. I've never left yet. I'm going to 151 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,260 say yet. Nor talk to somebody on her little messenger if I 152 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:13,200 don't know personally who they are. I'm going to say yet 153 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,420 because it's coming on. Sure. 154 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:19,330 All right. Online enticement 155 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:26,830 It involves individual communicating with someone believed to be entitled in touch with 156 00:11:26,830 --> 00:11:28,210 the child and the internment. 157 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:28,830 All right. 158 00:11:29,070 --> 00:11:35,170 So sexual offense, abduction, and sex tors, sex tors, and it will talk about in just a 159 00:11:35,170 --> 00:11:35,470 second. 160 00:11:35,670 --> 00:11:37,850 But that's what online enticement is. 161 00:11:38,330 --> 00:11:41,250 And you always think, oh my kid is smarter than that. 162 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:48,430 If most of the time they are solicited by their peters. 163 00:11:48,930 --> 00:11:54,270 These are usually the older end of your teenagers, tweens as well. 164 00:11:55,050 --> 00:11:58,770 Because now that they have these phones and they're chatting with everybody, 165 00:11:59,590 --> 00:12:03,190 they want that feedback, that instant feedback. 166 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:06,230 They want people to tell them how beautiful they are, 167 00:12:06,590 --> 00:12:08,170 how awesome they are in basketball. 168 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:14,390 all. Oh, I love the touchdowns that you made on Friday night, but it's always going to 169 00:12:14,390 --> 00:12:22,330 not always. Usually they're peers. But here's the thing that really is weird to me. Most are 170 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:28,510 not bothered by it. The reason they're not bothered by it is because they're desensitized to it, 171 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:38,110 which is sad. They see it all the time. They are trying to get people to meet with it. This is 172 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:40,630 is the one where I want you to have my stuff put this thing. 173 00:12:41,830 --> 00:12:44,470 It happens all the time. 174 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:46,470 Jump in and time. 175 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:49,930 Well, I'll say about that. 176 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:51,950 All the things you're talking about 177 00:12:51,950 --> 00:12:54,450 is we call it law enforcement agreement. 178 00:12:55,050 --> 00:12:57,750 So remember, you have someone who's older, they're 179 00:12:57,750 --> 00:13:00,570 grown, and because most kids love attention. 180 00:13:00,870 --> 00:13:04,650 And people that are predators that are looking to do that, 181 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:14,630 And for whatever reason, they tend to be able to tell which kids are having issues in 182 00:13:14,630 --> 00:13:21,290 other areas, whether it be in the household, mom and dad, split up, and they're struggling 183 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:21,830 with that. 184 00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:23,390 And they've got something else going on. 185 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:24,610 I'm just using that as an example. 186 00:13:25,090 --> 00:13:27,390 But they always start by growing up. 187 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:30,010 You know, wow, you look really pretty today. 188 00:13:30,570 --> 00:13:31,410 You know, I love that dress. 189 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:35,890 You know, I went to your basketball game once you said and I've actually got it whenever I start talking 190 00:13:35,890 --> 00:13:42,970 I've got a video we got them I was a monkey on YouTube and he it's scary what he can people just 191 00:13:42,970 --> 00:13:48,570 post a five to eight-second clip of where they're at themselves need to go find you anywhere in the 192 00:13:48,570 --> 00:13:54,630 country and he's found people all over the world so it's pretty wild. We'll watch a video a little later but 193 00:13:54,630 --> 00:14:03,050 It's a group of things where it starts and it goes where it is, but it's always got to look after that. 194 00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:12,290 Someone's, if your child comes home, getting an unusual amount of attention from somewhere else, that's weird. 195 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:25,550 It happened to be five years ago. 196 00:14:26,410 --> 00:14:29,650 My parents were divorcing and things at school and my friends weren't too good. 197 00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:32,010 But I felt like the world was falling down around me. 198 00:14:32,850 --> 00:14:33,990 That's when I met someone online. 199 00:14:37,540 --> 00:14:39,180 We would chat about everything in my life. 200 00:14:39,540 --> 00:14:42,460 I finally had someone to take my side and see things my way. 201 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,240 I had someone to put me first. 202 00:14:48,030 --> 00:14:51,030 No matter how much I thought we could trust each other, I knew better than to meet in 203 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:52,650 person when someone I had met on the internet. 204 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,910 But one day when school was dismissed early, there was someone waiting for me at my front 205 00:14:56,910 --> 00:14:57,170 door. 206 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,960 I never thought I'd- 207 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:13,500 Find myself in this situation. I learned a hard way that no matter who you think you're talking to online, there are people out there looking to hurt you. It doesn't matter if they're male or female, or if they look a little rough around the edges, or even if they're the most beautiful person. 208 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,920 These people exist online and in the real world. 209 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,560 It 210 00:15:21,860 --> 00:15:22,680 happened to me too. 211 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:26,360 I was 14 and someone online sent me a private message. 212 00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:32,700 I shouldn't have responded, but I messaged back in seven days later, agreed to be picked 213 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:34,160 up outside of my house at midnight. 214 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,000 I was taken to another house and what happened there was terrifying. 215 00:15:43,190 --> 00:15:44,890 I remembered it for the rest of my life. 216 00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:47,470 I felt numb and powerless and didn't know what to do. 217 00:15:48,090 --> 00:15:51,470 I was too afraid to tell my parents in a shame that what everyone would think of me. 218 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:53,930 But hiding it was a mistake. 219 00:15:55,770 --> 00:15:59,790 I saw the car that I was taking and driving around my neighborhood all summer long. 220 00:16:00,470 --> 00:16:01,990 Was I being targeted again? 221 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:03,690 Was someone else being victimized? 222 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:06,110 I finally decided to tell someone. 223 00:16:12,610 --> 00:16:15,450 I have to live with the decision I made to trust someone I met on the internet. 224 00:16:16,650 --> 00:16:18,850 But the important thing is that I've told someone. 225 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:29,140 I'm not a victim, but a survivor. 226 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,460 That is very important and it could go for a very long time. 227 00:16:43,780 --> 00:16:46,820 It is not a one to two conversation. 228 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:56,980 It is a long time. It starts off in a sense. Then it gradually gets to being much more. 229 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,860 For example, you've got this high school boy is talking to this middle school girl. 230 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,000 She's all about it. Is this high school boy giving her attention? 231 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:11,560 Telling her all of these things that's going on and going, 232 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,000 And, hey, see me picture your app that you're wearing to not to the ball game. 233 00:17:16,020 --> 00:17:23,860 She does, gets a little further, further, further, hey, I want to get my, I don't know, 234 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:29,800 my sister, some new underwear, what time, what time do you or what type do you wear? 235 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:30,580 Send me a picture. 236 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:39,860 And it just keeps going and going and it's scary how believable these people can actually 237 00:17:39,860 --> 00:17:40,200 be. 238 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:46,260 And I thought this was ridiculous, off-right gifts and cell phones and gift cards, but it's true. 239 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,780 It is absolutely true. 240 00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:57,670 That's how it works. 241 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:09,610 So this is what he was talking about. 242 00:18:10,110 --> 00:18:14,050 If they start acting different, you've got lots of different signs of grooming. 243 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:21,470 If they get upset when they're not getting to get online, they're not getting that fix of having that attention. 244 00:18:22,110 --> 00:18:26,230 Rejecting family members, they're starting to go hide in their room for long repairs of time. 245 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:32,310 I don't do it anyway, but starting calling unknown numbers, receiving gifts, just weird 246 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:32,650 gifts. 247 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:34,610 I just got a pair of beats today. 248 00:18:35,310 --> 00:18:36,350 Well, they don't have a job. 249 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:41,650 So something of was that, minimizing the screen, they're very fast. 250 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:47,030 They can hit those buttons that will instantly minimize your screen so that you can't see 251 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:47,330 it. 252 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:56,840 Talk to your kids about your with their relationships, absolutely teach them the warning signs. 253 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:03,380 actually talk to them about it, use the words, room me, use the words, all the things, 254 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:08,640 use those words, and know your online friends, know who they are. 255 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:14,560 I check, I make sure I know exactly who it is that my kid is looking or talking to you. 256 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:20,600 I know that this gets you, too, too, and when you have social media, it's on as next to possible. 257 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:25,200 actually probably isn't possible. Not to know every single person that they're talking to. 258 00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:29,820 But always, Paul, our friends in blue. 259 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:36,860 With the talking to kids online, we'll say it's harder. So my son plays Fortnite a lot. 260 00:19:37,020 --> 00:19:41,440 Well, a lot of that's, you know, old and old, and he's got a mic and he's talking to the movies. 261 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,260 A hundred people are matched to it. So there's not a lot of people usually that are on there, 262 00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:52,800 and he's got a friend list. It's huge. You know, there are many of them really 263 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:59,100 like to play games together and so that it happens very easily. My son, you know, 264 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,980 we try to, I go through the police and every, never so often, he goes through 265 00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:06,040 just to lead a bunch of friends because he's got a 50 or 50 friends on his 266 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,380 friends list on Xbox and it's like, why does he, you know, play with, you know, 267 00:20:10,460 --> 00:20:15,000 I mean, it's just, and most of the time I want to think it's, you know, it's 268 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,820 innocence, all kids close to his age. You remember that? You never know. And there's grown adults 269 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:26,720 that play it. That's how it starts. They start asking more and more questions and stuff. 270 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Because you talk to, because your kid has talked to them more and more and more, they become more 271 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,180 powerful with them just like, we live in anybody else. Absolutely. As it started to innocent for sure. 272 00:20:39,580 --> 00:20:45,840 That's why we've got to teach our kids to be capable of talking to them and say, that's for us. 273 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,560 and delete them, talking to them, and I don't know if you can see it, I'll try to read it. 274 00:20:51,820 --> 00:20:53,940 It says, well, I can't read it. 275 00:20:56,220 --> 00:20:58,320 Want to train? And the child says, 276 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,520 train? Like, miss it. I'll go first. 277 00:21:02,060 --> 00:21:04,820 No, ha, ha, ha, photos in. 278 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,020 Buy your gross keepsin' close on LLW. 279 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:13,200 Teaching your kids how to do this is where that's our goal. 280 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:25,900 We want them to be able to police themselves, and that happens with our conversation, talking all the time about what you do is those kinds of things. 281 00:21:28,460 --> 00:21:36,860 Sexy, in my opinion, has gotten crazy in the probably the last five years. 282 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,220 These numbers are probably lower, this was a study done in 2023. 283 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:53,300 I would say it's probably going up 34.8% of the teams say they have received a sex. 284 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:56,650 we got to teach them what to do. 285 00:21:58,930 --> 00:22:03,010 Most of the time it's to impress a boyfriend or 286 00:22:03,010 --> 00:22:08,610 a girlfriend. Most of the time it's that peer pressure thing. Peer pressure is huge 287 00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:14,170 especially on our middle school junior high agents. That is big. Well high school 288 00:22:14,170 --> 00:22:17,710 too but they kind of start getting their identities closer into their 289 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:27,510 hospital year. So, peer pressure and trying to oppress as a former principal, it never goes away. 290 00:22:28,530 --> 00:22:34,450 I came to principal at high school and particularly I'm glad he had done the Sprite to my getting 291 00:22:34,450 --> 00:22:40,830 there. And then three years later, every service on my watch. So it doesn't ever go away. 292 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:45,890 And you know, when we try to teach about respecting yourself, 293 00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:49,830 200 likes to do that program, so it's there always. 294 00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:52,870 Oh yeah, once it's there, it's always there. 295 00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:54,610 It doesn't have to be deleted or not. 296 00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:04,890 You probably get lots of messages every day. 297 00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:07,130 But what if you've got one like this? 298 00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:09,630 What would you do? 299 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:11,710 Would you send a picture? 300 00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:18,500 No? Cool, that's an easy way to protect yourself. 301 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:20,760 But what if you chosen differently? 302 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:28,460 What if you send the picture? They'd never share it with anyone else, right? 303 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,220 Do you want the pictures shared with others? 304 00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:35,980 Sorry, you no longer have a choice. It's out of your hands now. 305 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,360 Because sometimes people we trust break that trust. 306 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:46,140 Maybe the person you sent the picture to shows it to some friends, maybe they send it to 307 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:53,940 a couple friends, who send it to a couple more friends, who you get the idea, it's friends. 308 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,360 And you never know who might see it. 309 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Your little brother, 310 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:04,780 your mom, 311 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:15,340 other people at school, even strangers can get a hold of 312 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:20,340 picture. You never really know where that picture will end up. 313 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,560 How long it will be out there? 314 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:32,200 But the consequences will be. Tell my others to decide what happens to your image. 315 00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:41,380 Think before you share. Learn more at netsmarts.org. And hey, if your image is already out there, 316 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,860 know that it's not your fault. For information about removing sexual pictures and videos from the 317 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:50,520 the Internet, visit missingkids.org slash get help now. 318 00:24:53,730 --> 00:24:58,590 One that's there, it's there, hog to your kids about what happened. 319 00:24:59,310 --> 00:25:02,970 The kids, they sent it to their boyfriend or whatever, somebody they trust. 320 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:07,510 But the other kid grabbed it out of his hand. Now it's gone. 321 00:25:08,150 --> 00:25:11,170 So it's, it may be that you trust that person great. 322 00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:14,890 But do you trust everybody else that he left his phone sitting there? 323 00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:17,410 Anybody can pick it up and get it. 324 00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:23,190 Consequences, we all know the consequences of sexting. 325 00:25:24,810 --> 00:25:31,490 Alright, addressing it, make sure you talk about real life examples with your kids. 326 00:25:32,170 --> 00:25:34,490 Show them that video once it's out. 327 00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:37,250 You've got one picture and an out, it's everywhere. 328 00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:43,170 It has gotten so big with all the social media that it just sprints, it's like wildfire. 329 00:25:43,670 --> 00:25:45,310 You cannot ever get it back. 330 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:55,900 That just means this is a relatively new term, it's not a new thing, it's a new term. 331 00:25:56,540 --> 00:26:02,220 This is when it demands additional sexual content, sexual activity, or money from a child 332 00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:05,620 based on an image or something that they have received. 333 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:37,340 So what can you do? 334 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:43,560 Obviously do not comply to the demands, make sure you report it on the app, don't delete 335 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,400 the account. 336 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320 We want as much evidence as possible. 337 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:55,380 When we are trying to prevent this from happening again, I get teacher kids to close it, but it's a link to do whatever. 338 00:26:56,300 --> 00:27:09,540 This is something that happens to adults who all the time, I can tell you how many calls, we answer where somebody of the male was on a dating app and 339 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:14,560 in appropriate picture, and now there isn't sort of for whatever money. 340 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:19,380 And the problem with that is, as long as we're at the same point, 341 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:21,880 it's hard to prosecute. 342 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,420 Because people are not the country. 343 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,400 I mean, you can tell you got a real thick accent, 344 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,480 and the number is local, but they swoop the numbers all the time on different websites and stuff, 345 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,960 and they're going to extort you for as much money as I can. 346 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,920 And then if you don't, don't they are going to send it to, I mean, if it's on, if they 347 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,700 have access to, typically, like Instagram, I don't know much about Instagram, but it's 348 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:50,260 apparently you can see a lot of your friends list of stuff, your friends with them. 349 00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:54,080 So if the sharks there, they're going to get going down to your friends list to start sending 350 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:54,640 it to people. 351 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,000 We've seen that, and several times, and like I said, I can't be able to take that back. 352 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,940 I don't know how to do that. 353 00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:07,920 you know I mean it's never it's never gonna go away and I'm not gonna be able to 354 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,240 prosecute somebody that's in you know a different country and you're over in 355 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,360 Europe or something that's virtually impossible for me to do anything with so 356 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,340 the only advice I give people is don't send them any money expect it to go to 357 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:25,120 your friends and block that's the only thing you can do. 358 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,880 The best of all, I don't send a sticker to them. 359 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,660 Yeah, so that happens all the time. I mean, I've been in the sheriff's office for 360 00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:40,480 going on 11 years now. I've probably answered 150 call of a cell of similar situation 361 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,840 like today. So. 362 00:28:42,740 --> 00:28:47,480 She and I will work at the junior high, which the state and the North grade students. 363 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,640 And this does. 364 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,740 Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. 365 00:28:51,740 --> 00:28:57,200 It is currently especially that age because they're thinking, oh, well, they'll do whatever 366 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560 I want because they don't want their pictures shared. 367 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:00,820 Yep. 368 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:03,700 Cyberbullying we've heard for many, many years. 369 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Cyberbullying, it can take on a whole new look with social media. 370 00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:16,560 You've got a huge mass audience now, which is pretty scary to me. 371 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:23,740 This one happens all the time creating fake profiles. 372 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,820 There are so many groups out there bullying groups of lists of who I wouldn't think blah, 373 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,120 blah, blah, blah list at the junior high and then there's all these names. 374 00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:36,940 That's a form of cyber bullying. 375 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:46,220 It is all so crazy how this can go from innocent little things to now it's a huge voter shopping 376 00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:55,760 pictures. These kids have their little computers in their hand. It's an innocent picture, but they can photoshop it, make it not an innocent picture. Nobody knows the difference. 377 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,740 So then there it goes. 378 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,880 inside the volume. 379 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,360 It was not even TCA until last year. So there was not them, I mean, cyberballing is a sort of former harassment. It still is a former harassment, but there was no definition for it from a law enforcement standpoint. So the, I mean, the TCA, the TNC code, and it says charge criminal code. So if so, I mean, before last year, there was nothing you could really do about when just telling the block owner, just going to rise anyways. But, you know, the cyberball and the values, I've handed people, 380 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,420 and parents are handling on the TCA, 381 00:30:31,420 --> 00:30:33,360 but if you find a cyberbullying in there, 382 00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:34,640 I'll try to put them in. 383 00:30:35,140 --> 00:30:37,060 So now they've had me to harass them, 384 00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:38,720 and still just a minute or so, 385 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:40,500 a long time to get a citation out of it, 386 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,280 but best advice is just follow. 387 00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:49,190 So I have a bullying spread, 388 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:50,990 I think that's that wider audience. 389 00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:53,270 These are signs to look for. 390 00:30:53,890 --> 00:30:55,710 Oh, I mean, just regular bullying as well, 391 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:58,450 like physical bullying, but you've got your loneliness, 392 00:30:58,970 --> 00:31:00,670 they try to run away, they isolate, 393 00:31:00,670 --> 00:31:06,770 they have low self-esteem and that's usually a target as well for all kinds of 394 00:31:06,770 --> 00:31:16,090 other things. So keep an eye on those kids. Blocking them, save the evidence, as best 395 00:31:16,090 --> 00:31:20,790 you can, screenshots, print it out, whatever you need to do. 396 00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:24,340 Also, we need to think 397 00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:31,340 about our own kids being that willing. We all think our children are angels, not so 398 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:38,040 much. We need to also be very much aware of what they are saying to their friends, to 399 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:43,760 their, well, internet world. We've got to be careful and we need to watch our own kids. 400 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:49,680 Watch what they are saying. If there's quickly switching off your screens, computers at all 401 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,380 hours, all of those things, avoid discussion. Hopefully that's a signal of O.A. 402 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Thank 403 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,780 you for that. 404 00:32:51,050 --> 00:32:52,330 Thank you 405 00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:55,530 for that. 406 00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:57,590 Thank you for that. 407 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,020 Thank you for that. 408 00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:02,080 Thank you for that. 409 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,760 Minute 2 is that one month after 15. 410 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:13,620 It is sad how something as simple as a picture leads to this. 411 00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:15,140 So communicate. 412 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,880 Talk to your kid. 413 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,140 I gave you that. 414 00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:20,980 Here's the first five things you should do immediately. 415 00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:27,680 start talking, communicate, check the browsing history. I can't get on into how to do that 416 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,520 because all these devices are so very different. But check your browsing history. I was checking 417 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:39,760 my daughter's on school device. No less. She was searching for gay and homophobic. 418 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,840 Oh, we need a conversation. Hold her. They had to. I didn't do that. 419 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,900 from the computer and I was like, yeah, let's talk about what do you 420 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:55,700 what questions do you have? We have to. Or if they just are going to find out from 421 00:36:55,700 --> 00:37:01,360 other people, all of their friends. Personally, I would only allow the 422 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,660 advice of the common areas, curfew for cell phones, find out their 423 00:37:05,660 --> 00:37:09,800 user names and passwords, find them out, write them down in your little 424 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,320 secret book or whatever, and occasionally check them. There are five social media 425 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,600 apps and you may have another one that I would highly recommend. You get involved with, get on, 426 00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:28,960 I don't like them, but get on them, get used to them, follow your children, make sure you are watching 427 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,360 what they're doing. See if we think this is right. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, what's happened, 428 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:42,860 be real. Okay, there's always new ones all the time, so I gotta say it now. But this is a great 429 00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:49,820 things to do just to start quickly, getting into getting involved and getting engaged, learn 430 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:51,040 it and connect it. 431 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:57,040 Well, you make that available so we can email it to anybody that requests that. 432 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Absolutely. 433 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,660 Because these are links right here. 434 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,880 Our link of, if I can quick, quick, quick sheets gather, quick tip. 435 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:07,580 It tells you how to get on to Instagram. 436 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:10,500 It tells you what parent controls there are. 437 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,580 It tells you all kinds of things so these are actually linked so it's actually better if it's digital 438 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:18,740 So you can click on it and it takes you right later. So if it's a great guy for parents 439 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,660 That's all right. I'll let you take over 440 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:26,870 Use my bullet 441 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:28,990 That's all I got 442 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:31,650 You guys have fabulous presentation 443 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:37,770 Powerpoint part you're not gonna have that thing you guys get a picker and we'll go over a couple things but 444 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:39,550 so 445 00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:45,670 So my thing is social media, first and foremost, my name is Corporate Crossing with the Sheriff's 446 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:45,890 Office. 447 00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:47,630 I've been there going on 11 years. 448 00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:50,250 I've been SROs since 2010. 449 00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:54,270 So then I've been in several different schools. 450 00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:58,830 So I was at every three years, went to Heritage High School for a couple of years, went to 451 00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:04,430 Heritage Middle School for a few months, and then ended up going to Heritage High School. 452 00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:06,110 Now I've just got moved back to Everett. 453 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:11,510 So Eric is K through 12. So kids at all ages I deal with pretty regularly. 454 00:39:12,830 --> 00:39:15,810 And I'm going to talk to you first and foremost, Snapchat. 455 00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:25,150 I don't let my kids or I get four kids, 13, 11, 9, 2. 456 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:29,850 None of them have any type of social media. I think that's if you want to talk about 457 00:39:29,850 --> 00:39:34,250 protecting your kids from social media, the most important thing you can do is not have it. 458 00:39:34,250 --> 00:39:39,670 and I was probably not in popular opinion, but I would say 90% of the crowns that we see 459 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:45,690 have some shape form or fashion snapchat involved that we see in the school systems. I mean, 460 00:39:45,830 --> 00:39:53,610 it's if it's not run away or they've cyberbullying takes place on snapchat snapchat is 461 00:39:54,170 --> 00:40:01,970 I've nicknamed it the devil is I don't know much good. Well, I don't think it was designed for good. 462 00:40:01,970 --> 00:40:07,950 I don't think it's been good for I just I don't know what good has come out of snapchat 463 00:40:07,950 --> 00:40:11,490 I somebody I'll add one somebody could probably educate me on that, but 464 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:15,370 I don't know anything good about snapchat. It's terrible 465 00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:17,070 There's my opinion 466 00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:26,170 So it doesn't have a mat also, so we hand you snack. I guess that is a good point for snapchat kids have snapchat all the time 467 00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:29,610 We've had runaways and we've been able to use a snapchat mat 468 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:33,770 we get somebody that's got a snack chat and one of their courageous stuff. We've used that 469 00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:40,270 to help find kids that have run away, but now they're getting, you know, like they always get 470 00:40:40,270 --> 00:40:46,850 smarter and smarter, they charge it all. So access to drugs will snap chat. I can't tell you how many 471 00:40:46,850 --> 00:40:53,430 times I've been through a kid's phone and I've seen drug menus. I've got that listed up there. It's 472 00:40:53,430 --> 00:41:02,510 because it's like a little shopping list and it's got marijuana gummies and it's got a price 473 00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:07,170 out next to it. I mean it's just like you would see in a menu at a restaurant. They send it out 474 00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:17,150 on a snapchat and luckily there's obviously there's all different levels of attendance. I know 475 00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:22,690 that the ones that I've found been pretty like the group. I found several drug menus and was labeled 476 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:30,910 dope group. So that was pretty, you call that a clue in my line of work. So we clicked on that, 477 00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:35,810 we found all kinds of different menus and drugs and stuff and people trying to meet up and 478 00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:41,750 give drugs. I've had kids, I've had kids parents be frustrated whenever I was at Everett. 479 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:48,370 The first time I had plenty of parents come in and swear their kids was getting drugs from Everett. 480 00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:49,850 So they've got to be getting it from the school. 481 00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:51,910 Well, they're going to take it pretty seriously. 482 00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:55,670 They get wanted every day if you're there for suspension. 483 00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:57,950 So we get with a mental factor. 484 00:41:58,150 --> 00:42:00,650 So all these vapes and stuff, which 485 00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:02,870 is a hot item that always hits on that. 486 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:07,050 And I found, and then you get to talking to some of the kids 487 00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:09,630 and we found conversations on Snapchat 488 00:42:09,630 --> 00:42:11,750 and get their parents to let me in a bone, 489 00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:12,770 and we started looking around. 490 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:15,350 And you can see where somebody has set up a meet. 491 00:42:15,350 --> 00:42:18,730 and they just kid goes outside, it's 20 bucks in a mailbox, 492 00:42:19,230 --> 00:42:22,010 God drives a buy, takes the money, leaves the drugs, 493 00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:23,430 that happens all the time. 494 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:27,170 And it just goes on and on. 495 00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:30,210 The biggest piece of advice for Snapchat is, 496 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:31,390 don't let your kids have it. 497 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:34,750 So some of the other ones are some good aspects too, 498 00:42:34,890 --> 00:42:37,490 if you monitor firm oil, I think they're perfectly fine. 499 00:42:37,870 --> 00:42:39,250 I can't think of anything good, 500 00:42:39,710 --> 00:42:41,250 that comes out of Snapchat, it's. 501 00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:53,650 I don't have, I tell all my friends, all my friends are a parent, so I don't like your 502 00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:54,430 kids' house in the chat. 503 00:42:55,230 --> 00:42:59,510 Even if they have it and you follow them, they just get an hour and they have an option 504 00:42:59,510 --> 00:43:00,530 for a province. 505 00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:06,710 You don't get to see your, you may think, oh, you're following my child on Snapchat, but 506 00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:08,930 you're not seeing the private things in the chat. 507 00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:13,470 And it's it's set up to be sneaky to hide things in general. 508 00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:15,150 That's why I was designed to send it. 509 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:18,510 So that way, yeah, because they disappear and they go away. 510 00:43:18,650 --> 00:43:23,110 And it makes it really hard, you know, Snapchat now only holds. 511 00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:25,150 That stuff for so long. 512 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:26,930 I don't know exactly what the timeframe is. 513 00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:29,430 And they don't cooperate in law enforcement very well. 514 00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:34,110 So it's a whole process in order to get something from them. 515 00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:36,290 And the one time I've done it in my career, 516 00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:42,270 where I found out really out of my league, I'd wrote a search for Snapchat, two users name, 517 00:43:42,590 --> 00:43:53,850 two user names for 18 days, for two young men, and I get back 1,568 media files. 518 00:43:54,890 --> 00:43:58,690 And so now you've got to look through 1,500 media files to find the evidence you're looking 519 00:43:58,690 --> 00:44:07,630 for the crowd. So I was a little outmatched for that. And it's, it don't do it. Snapchat's just a 520 00:44:07,630 --> 00:44:14,430 bad. That's my, that's my stand. The other one I talk about it, she didn't really, don't even 521 00:44:14,430 --> 00:44:23,050 really go over much as discord. So it's pretty popular with gaming. It's like a, it's just like an 522 00:44:23,050 --> 00:44:28,070 online chatting platform where you get on and there's multiple people join into the chat room and 523 00:44:28,070 --> 00:44:33,830 And you're talking on a mic, you can do it on a keyboard, video, all that, but there's 524 00:44:33,830 --> 00:44:41,470 been an uptick in child predators, sex predators on discord. 525 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:48,810 So there's like, in its five years time, there's been like 35 cases over that, and it's up 526 00:44:48,810 --> 00:44:50,650 to come in that portion. 527 00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:57,930 And if you look, you know, I hit the, I was like, okay, no, don't, don't do the 528 00:44:57,930 --> 00:44:58,090 way. 529 00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:59,970 If you want to just want to, you too. 530 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:31,960 And so this is another portion. So back to what Jody was talking about these adults being able to find your children and figure out where they're at. This guy is pretty incredible. Now, he's obviously really smart, but you know, if he can do it, there's several other people that can do it. And he finds just click on that. That's a good step into Wix studio, the platform for agency's and enterprises and turn website lay ass into an art form. 531 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600 You asked me to figure out why this video was recorded, so I did. 532 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,480 Hi, I'm Jose Monkey, and I find people who ask to be found. 533 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,140 Guys, one of the harder things about open source intelligence is finding, combining, and correlating disparate sources of data. 534 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:51,940 It's often the case that the information you're looking for is out there, but getting it all into one place 535 00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:55,880 in a format that you can use to produce actionable insights is usually half the challenge. 536 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,540 In trying to find this location, I stumbled across a data set that was unusually analysis-friendly, 537 00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:02,260 And guys, that made all the difference in the world. 538 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,140 So what can we see? 539 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,640 This person asks to be found and then shows us their surroundings. 540 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,320 There's a partially obscured sign here that looks like it starts with the letter L. 541 00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:13,500 We actually have some highway signs here, but they were really blurry, and I was having a hard time reading them. 542 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,480 There's not much to look at across the street here. 543 00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:16,960 It's just a big open field. 544 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,240 Then they turn the camera back the other direction, and we can see that they are at a quick trip gas station. 545 00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:25,140 I also noticed that we have what looks like a dark colored water tower off in the distance. 546 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,300 And that's about it. 547 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:30,040 Okay, so QuickTrip has almost 900 locations across six different states. 548 00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:35,200 I was hoping I could use the OpenStreetMap database to find QuickTrip locations that were fairly close to water towers. 549 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,380 In this case, it looked a little bit far to me. I guess they made it like maybe 500 meters. That's like a third of a mile. 550 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,000 So I wrote a quick query and tried that. And I got some results, but none of them were right. 551 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,100 And frankly, that wasn't too surprising because it seemed like I wasn't getting nearly enough QuickTrip results. 552 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:51,940 I suspected that there were QuickTrip locations that just weren't in the OpenStreetMap database. 553 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:56,320 And that's not uncommon because OpenStreetMap is community maintained, so it's often incomplete. 554 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,100 Usually the best way to get a comprehensive list of the locations for a particular business, 555 00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:03,520 at least retail businesses like this, is to go to their site and find their store locator. 556 00:47:03,940 --> 00:47:06,960 But locators like that are often optimized for a very specific use case, 557 00:47:07,540 --> 00:47:10,200 i.e. getting a consumer to the closest location to them. 558 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,720 But if you're trying to do the sort of thing that I do, they're often much harder to work with. 559 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000 And guys, I've struggled with many a store locator. 560 00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:18,960 But even when they're easy to work with, the trouble with using store locators, 561 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,620 while it has lots of good information about their own locations, that's all it's got. 562 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,640 It's not going to tell you anything else, like which places are close to water towers. 563 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,840 And usually trying to combine the data that you can get from a store locator with other 564 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,740 datasets involves a lot of screen scraping and a lot of manual data transformation. 565 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,040 And it's usually not worth it. But guys, as I was looking at the quick trip site, 566 00:47:37,180 --> 00:47:40,760 I found something I did not expect. They actually have a page that lists all of their locations, 567 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,280 and you can download the data as a comma-separated list. And it includes latitude and 568 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,380 The longitude coordinates for every location is a freaking jackpot. 569 00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:51,680 Anyway, I downloaded the CSV file and did a quick rewrite of my data query. 570 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,760 Now I could look for water towers once again that were close to quick trip locations, but 571 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,360 this time I knew I had a good list of locations. 572 00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,120 And when I ran that query I got more results than I did before. 573 00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:02,900 And I was able to filter out the locations I had already looked at so I could focus on just 574 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:03,640 the new locations. 575 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,320 And didn't take too long to find this location that was near a water tower and also across 576 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,460 the street from a large open field. 577 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,980 And guys, that was it. 578 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,700 You were here at this quick trip location in Turtle Lake, Wisconsin. 579 00:48:18,670 --> 00:48:20,510 I used Google Street View to confirm the location. 580 00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:23,910 Here's a view of the water tower from the gas station, and by the way, if we'd been 581 00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:27,370 able to see the water tower more clearly, it would have been game over really fast, because 582 00:48:27,370 --> 00:48:29,110 it says Turtle Lake on the water tower. 583 00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:33,330 Anyway, here's that sign that was partially obscured in the video, and here are those highway 584 00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:34,110 signs that I couldn't read. 585 00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:38,110 You're not actually at one of the pumps at the gas station when you recorded this, so I 586 00:48:38,110 --> 00:48:41,290 can't play my favorite game, which pump was it, but I can tell you that you were standing 587 00:48:41,290 --> 00:48:43,570 right over here on this line in between these two parking spaces. 588 00:48:43,570 --> 00:48:47,550 cases. By the way, in case you're wondering, this quick trip location was not the open 589 00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:50,550 street map database. But don't worry, because I'm going to go ahead and know. Okay, 590 00:48:50,650 --> 00:48:53,350 it's time to check which previous location was closest to this one. And this time it was 591 00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:57,270 way back and lightning round number five in O'Clair, Wisconsin. That's about 52 miles or 83 kilometers. 592 00:48:58,190 --> 00:49:03,230 So, you can see, and that's actually one of the ones that took him quite a while longer. 593 00:49:03,350 --> 00:49:07,730 There's, like, he's got like three or four seasons and each of them seemed to be like 594 00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:12,610 I have over a hundred episodes where he's located somebody based on five to ten second 595 00:49:12,610 --> 00:49:13,010 clip. 596 00:49:13,850 --> 00:49:18,970 And to me, that's awfully scary because in social media, if your child's posting a picture 597 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,270 for a video who's self, I mean, if he's able to do that in an hour, just imagine somebody 598 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:29,270 that's obsessed and over and has several, a lot more talent to put into that. 599 00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:37,790 So, to me, that is just another reason why I don't let my kids have social media. 600 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:40,190 It's just hard to pull. 601 00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:42,070 You can do all the police that you want. 602 00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:45,050 And the communication is very important. 603 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:49,630 But in the day, I mean, an instant video is what's it jeopardizing? 604 00:49:51,210 --> 00:49:55,490 And so, if you want to click on that link there, this is a discord. 605 00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:56,630 This 606 00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:06,540 is just a discord story where this mother finds out that her team is out of the planet. 607 00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:08,100 Watch the video to scroll down to them. 608 00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:15,480 Yeah, so you can see that the discord. 609 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:26,240 So essentially some of that this mom finds out their sons being sexually sexually exploitation of a matter on discord. 610 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,520 And there's like three or four different examples. 611 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,040 And I'm more and more than happy to share. 612 00:50:32,580 --> 00:50:35,520 And this is just, I mean, it just happens 613 00:50:36,060 --> 00:50:38,360 over and over again, where there's more. 614 00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:40,620 And it goes, oh, this is got some good information 615 00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:43,160 about what you can do, be involved, communicate, 616 00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:45,220 want to look for things like that. 617 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,380 Come back to the police, yeah. 618 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,820 And we'll set that one. 619 00:50:52,820 --> 00:51:02,060 So that one is, this is another discord, but so apparently they have hidden chat communities now. 620 00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:11,640 So on Discord, this is, and this kind of goes into, it was found in NBC News at the end of five, 35 cases over the past six years. 621 00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:22,140 The sexual involvement of children and several different other, several of them are winning flea deals and different likes. 622 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:27,220 some of them are still pending. But that's discourse relatively new and most people think of this 623 00:51:27,220 --> 00:51:33,940 court as a, as a app that your child uses or people use to, whenever they're playing games on 624 00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:43,220 life. But there's, it just goes to show that people take innocent things and turn them like they've 625 00:51:43,220 --> 00:51:48,260 always done for years. It takes something they was designed to be innocent and be very useful and 626 00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:50,140 they've termed it against other people. 627 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,880 If you don't highlight that and put that in, 628 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,000 and I think that's about all I've got. 629 00:51:57,180 --> 00:52:01,020 This is just the list of some of the things 630 00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:03,680 that some of the apps and stuff 631 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,240 that people can use, some monitor. 632 00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:07,460 Now, I know the schools use, 633 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,780 this is like a top 10 list of apps 634 00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:15,440 and that you can use to monitor your children's devices. 635 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,140 So I know the lung can still use this bark, right? 636 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,060 So we get a lot of notification. 637 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,860 It keys on keywords on suicide. 638 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:27,580 You just all kinds of different keywords with the big thing. 639 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,440 You're saying this can explain. 640 00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:33,300 I have a question, and I wish I knew technology better 641 00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:38,000 to ask the question better, but how is AI going to impact this? 642 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,100 AI would generate anything you ask. 643 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:45,080 Yes, and so it can generate. 644 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:51,580 If someone sends a picture, that picture can be regenerated in any shape and then distributed 645 00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:52,680 in any way. 646 00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:02,220 So that's really scary to me because they can take bits and pieces of people and regenerate. 647 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:07,280 So part of what they got, I was going to monkey those, he's a software engineer. 648 00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:14,600 And so he uses, now he gets very technical into it, but most of the time people send a video 649 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,140 quit with the street sign and a couple identify them tomorrow. So he doesn't have to write 650 00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:23,120 any code for it. But he goes into some of them where he actually writes code to identify 651 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:29,160 it like him. And now AI does it for you. That's what's crazy is you can, there's different 652 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,920 things that you can put a, like a list of information like a data bank into it. And then you 653 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:40,200 can pass the AI program to search for this, this and this and use this data bank. And it'll 654 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,320 full of all your different variables and stuff. So he does, he's done that in some of his. 655 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,440 It's pretty wild what you can find. I mean, just a picture of how, especially if you know, 656 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,480 you know, like from around here, if you know the area, I've been working in streets, 657 00:53:56,460 --> 00:54:00,940 working in, you know, Blood County, working in these streets for 11 years. And if somebody's 658 00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:07,300 got a road sign in the background, I pretty much know where it's at here. And so there's all kinds of 659 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,940 Yeah. It's just scary. I think I'll visit about, I guess a month ago, a month and a half ago. 660 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:21,460 It was a grandmother raising two teenage grandchildren and she had bark set up in her home. 661 00:54:22,020 --> 00:54:30,500 And so we were asking her about it. She was telling us about it and she was saying, I'll get a text that says so and so is engaging in bullying behavior. 662 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:35,680 And what had happened was the girl had sent her brother a text to shut up for something. 663 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:46,500 Yeah, that detail in terms of she would get an alert just based on the lingo and in their text messages or any of their activity. 664 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,540 Of course, she had all the controls for so that they could get on different apps and things like that. 665 00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:54,980 But we were kind of fascinated by that whole set of. 666 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,720 Yeah, barks are really good. 667 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,340 I don't know how much any of that costs are expensive. 668 00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:11,380 But there's 10 there, I think, and you just get on there, and I'm sure all of them are very, very good and probably easy to work with. 669 00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:19,560 And the big thing is, just be afraid of it. Don't be afraid of the technology. Don't be afraid of the social media and talk to your kids. 670 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,620 So, I'm a joke, there's no legal privacy in my house, you don't have to, you don't get 671 00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:31,640 promising, you have boundaries, but so my wife's actually really good at doing that with 672 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,060 the kids. 673 00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:36,600 She has certain follows all the time, so look, any questions? 674 00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:45,670 I want to add one thing about, I had a grandmother last year that did not protect her credit card 675 00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:53,870 And her grandson was on the damning sites and he was enticed by someone to share that credit card with them. 676 00:55:54,570 --> 00:56:01,470 And she was not it would recover any money that was stolen because of this out country for all this to the place. 677 00:56:01,710 --> 00:56:06,430 The bank, I think, Rimburs $50 and it was over a thousand that was taken. 678 00:56:06,910 --> 00:56:13,870 So I don't think it's realized at all what's going on and they're trying to be friends with these people. 679 00:56:13,870 --> 00:56:21,570 Well, I'm trying to make friends and yeah, it's sad, you know, I really appreciate this. 680 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:28,790 Anybody have any questions on the chat or in the room at all, you know, it's an outstanding 681 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:29,250 job. 682 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:35,230 I feel a lot more educated, and I really appreciate your time doing this. 683 00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:36,690 It was outstanding. 684 00:56:37,690 --> 00:56:38,030 Can you tell? 685 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:41,250 You want to go in and turn us off, Sarah? 686 00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:42,250 Sure. 687 00:56:42,590 --> 00:56:43,010 Oh, yeah. 688 00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:55,010 but really thank you all for showing up today and thank you for what's shared as it was.