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[0:05] Good morning. The December 7, 2019 meeting of the Board of Education, Washington, the local schools come to order. It is now 8 o'clock. Please call the bill.
[0:48] I
[0:53] would like to take a moment of silence to recognize today is the number seven Pearl Harbor Day.
[1:09] Thank you.
[1:15] Community comment.
[1:16] Do we have anybody here that wants to make a community comment?
[1:21] I don't think we do.
[1:23] So we will move on to item number two.
[1:26] Financial update.
[1:27] This is just a quick update as board to where we're successful passing our bond
[1:32] lobby. We request requests for proposals for municipal advisor at the first
[1:38] step in our borrowing.
[1:41] The deadline for submission is Monday, December 9th. We're
[1:46] making a decision by December 16th. That will begin steps. They'll be advising us
[1:50] where next steps would be. We likely do with a bank qualified note that you borrow
[1:54] $10 million upfront that will get us cash flow as we proceed with the project that would
[2:00] also provide funding for other costs that we may incur.
[2:04] But then we're going to divide the one thing we have to look at is there's our financial
[2:09] statements.
[2:10] One thing that we have is a negative outlet, a rating is A3, that's similar to what it was
[2:16] when we did our COPS issue but has a negative outlet because of our declining cash balances.
[2:21] As the board is aware, we did pass the operating levy, which did bring in roughly $3 million a year.
[2:27] Unfortunately, with the state freezing state aid, as well as the choice factoring into our district,
[2:33] our cash balance has really haven't changed from May 19th through now or through the next three years,
[2:39] even though we passed the levy. So there are things we haven't looked for. So I'll probably provide
[2:43] updates for the next few weeks where we're heading. We probably have two to three
[2:48] and just for advisors to get poles up and then I was like the one that we feel almost comfortable with.
[2:54] The last time we worked with the senior associates they did an excellent job,
[2:59] but there's also some other good ones that are going to pop their services to us.
[3:05] So any questions?
[3:07] How about just a comment?
[3:08] I think that's a, you're doing a good job.
[3:11] I think this is a very big, big, you know, balloon to be looking at.
[3:15] And I think you're doing a good job on that.
[3:17] And I think the district's happy and lucky to have you
[3:20] looking at these and making good decisions.
[3:23] Much just and picking ideas I do,
[3:26] I still think you still do a good job.
[3:27] You pick on me?
[3:29] You wouldn't know it's hard to slip off there.
[3:32] You'll miss it.
[3:33] You'll miss it, yeah.
[3:36] Well, it was always like, oh, there's
[3:41] You want to do that?
[3:42] I didn't hear that.
[3:48] Any other questions?
[3:50] No, I appreciate this because you've
[3:52] kept in front of the storm, and you have always
[3:55] we make fun of you, but you've been very tight,
[3:59] but you've been great to find interestfully
[4:02] helping this along the way.
[4:04] So thank you for everything you've done with us.
[4:08] OSTC update, that was a great meeting the other day, but I might hand out for everyone.
[4:24] So Mr. Elstrup, Mr. Hughes, Mr. Merritt, Mr. Falk and I, and we're joined by Eugene
[4:31] Schickat and Scott Wagner, OSTC, and then Region 2 Construction Services, which oversees
[4:44] I think Scott is a comfortable with him, he can't really know his stuff.
[4:48] So all I did was try to gather some notes from our discussions that they just kind of
[4:53] walk you through with our next steps are.
[4:56] So that's what we'll do this morning, so the purpose of the meeting was really informational,
[5:01] just to provide information about next steps, clarification about the funding ratio, clarification
[5:05] about re-evaluation stages. Kind of reviewed how it provides code 3318 with that. Provided
[5:12] information about the support available from OSBC and Regency, and also provided information
[5:16] about timelines and future projects. So for our first order of business really will be
[5:22] to prepare the RFQs for architects. Well, I've already started to pull down some of those
[5:27] forms and look at that. I talked yesterday to Scott again about the language that will go
[5:31] in there. What kinds of things we're interested in. We're interested in a little bit of vision
[5:35] is a part of our architect. We want them to meet with the community, get their vision,
[5:40] take their feedback, all of that. So that's an important, so you're really in that first
[5:44] description there, putting in what you want to see from your architect. We want this
[5:47] to be a very community active, and so that would be in there. So I'll be starting to work
[5:52] on those a little bit. I have the advantage also of having a couple local coverintendents
[5:56] who've been through recently OFQC work, so they're pulling their RQs for me, such as the
[6:01] book kind of language they put in there. I talked to a couple of them yesterday, so everybody's
[6:06] always going to share, so that's nice. And so we'll be putting those together. I mean, we could
[6:11] really put the RFQ out before the holidays. I don't know if something's really going to get done
[6:16] before the holidays, but it still gives people a little bit more time. I am getting daily calls
[6:21] from architects like they're coming out when they're coming out. We're pretty clear. We met
[6:31] But maybe today maybe we'll spend some time on that today so and then also the RFQ for the construction manager at risk which is the model that they're recommending and I would agree with after reading a lot of it.
[6:42] That's just exactly what we want and those can go out a little bit later even after an architect is collected or concurrently.
[6:50] So, we'll probably really work hard on the RFQ for the architect and then right behind
[6:56] that, get the construction manager at risk one out.
[6:59] And then also, then there's another piece to the request for proposal for the CMR, and
[7:06] that is, so that actual piece, the first one is just to kind of spell out what you want,
[7:10] the second one is actually to get the money attached to it.
[7:12] So, it's a little bit different from the access.
[7:15] Funding ratio, this was a good piece of information.
[7:18] I think this was unfair to all of us, like what happens when construction costs go up?
[7:22] What happens when we decide to build five buildings instead of six or whatever that is?
[7:28] And it's good to know that the ratio stays the same.
[7:30] So the ratio remains constant, it's always 80-20, so we've locked that in, which is really
[7:37] exciting.
[7:37] So long as it's money that's the language acceptable for the state.
[7:46] Right, exactly right.
[7:47] So almost everything we do has to be approved, really everything we do has to be approved.
[7:51] They quarterly they review everything that we're working on.
[7:56] At some point if we decided to take something on specifically we would have to run that
[8:01] through the state and they might say no we won't fund that it's not co-fundable and then
[8:05] we would have to absorb 100% of that cost so I can't put it right left.
[8:09] We decided we needed a performing arts theater at Charlotte because we don't have anything
[8:13] in that end of town.
[8:14] That would be that would not be a co-fundable piece they would say no that's not
[8:16] part of our funding model, and then we would have to be ready to step that on our own.
[8:21] Which I think is, the good news is that they're on it constantly.
[8:24] And literally, you don't get many people to pick up their phones anymore.
[8:29] You call people, you go to the voice mail, you know, they call you back, or they don't call
[8:34] you back, they're A-E, depending on who it is.
[8:38] But this guy has picked up a phone every time I called.
[8:41] I mean, and I called yesterday at 4.45 and picked up the phone, I mean, happy to talk to you.
[8:47] He likes his work. You can tell he really likes his work.
[8:52] Like they said, they're going to be with us holding our hand and stuff the way.
[8:56] And probably one of the great things about being later in the list of all of these constructions
[9:01] is that most of the hiccups are in the past and they kind of know the process really well.
[9:06] We have to make that easier for us.
[9:09] The reason this is important is one thing we look at and we want the community is right
[9:15] now.
[9:15] We're at 59%.
[9:16] We're probably in five, 10 years when we're ready to be renovated according to the approved
[9:22] plan.
[9:22] It may be replaced.
[9:24] And that means the cost might be higher.
[9:26] So that's why the question was asked is, you know, 10 years from now, would they still pay
[9:30] the 80% if they locked into a dollar amount of the percentage they're locked into the percentage.
[9:35] And that's why the board approved the 80 percent because we, you know, possibly it could
[9:40] be 82 percent, 3 years ago, now it would be 70 percent, 80 percent is a very, very good
[9:45] number.
[9:46] And the reason they're so involved is they will be paying 80 percent of the construction costs
[9:50] going forward.
[9:51] We will be paying for the first two elementaries, but that would be our 20 percent going forward.
[9:57] And that was the, that became the topic because the widows are in that bubble.
[10:01] We're only a couple of percentage points away from where we're being eligible to be read and knocked down and rebuild itself.
[10:08] Is it current 59 percent?
[10:10] Right.
[10:11] We have.
[10:12] There is some discussion that we had that we may have to go back to the voters for more money if that's the case.
[10:18] But will we visit that time?
[10:23] Yeah.
[10:23] I think the other part that gave me some comfort, yeah, not next year.
[10:29] I think the big part that gave me some comfort too was just that it's a kind that just
[10:32] like we told voters and just like we plan to do it's a constant cycle of evaluation.
[10:36] So this isn't, we didn't lock this in stone and then you know now we're stuck even though
[10:42] we don't need you know five buildings or whatever.
[10:44] This is a constant re-evaluation based on our enrollment, based on maybe our changing
[10:48] educational needs, our changing vision.
[10:51] and any of those things could change this,
[10:54] which I think is really exciting.
[10:55] So the community can constantly be giving in
[10:57] but as the community changes.
[10:59] And one of the things we did discuss as well
[11:01] is that within the buildings we might get some interest
[11:04] of people moving to the community.
[11:07] And we've got some, stay the art of selection
[11:10] and that might help us in the star population.
[11:15] Yeah.
[11:16] Family?
[11:16] Yeah.
[11:18] Oh, no.
[11:20] And that was, I mean, it was a reflection meeting in that sense because it gave us a lot
[11:25] of ideas of what we could do and everything was pretty fluid moving forward.
[11:30] But the nice thing is if I heard correctly, we could potentially see moving to the five
[11:34] years.
[11:35] It sounds like it boosted up on the OSCC component.
[11:41] Obviously, you're looking at the financial stability of schools in front of you and obviously
[11:45] with us to have some of that lovey that changed a lot, where other schools may not be ready,
[11:53] where if we did pass the lovey, we had a follow-up on that list, where the government schools
[11:56] in front of us, that now are following on that list, and you've gained some to be pretty
[12:01] kind of into the five years where we're thinking it's going to be much later than that in the
[12:06] OFCC.
[12:07] In the good thing is that the construction at Charlton and the New Jackment will probably not
[12:18] So they did give us some cost just to think about, just rough numbers, $250 square foot
[12:26] and that could escalate to $300 square foot over five years, make some projections.
[12:30] Both buildings are going to be right around $80,000 square feet.
[12:34] Architect fees are running 5-9%, depending on what city you're in, if you're in Cleveland or
[12:39] is Nadia, you're here, construction manager at risk, got 36%, we could also settle on a
[12:44] fix with them.
[12:46] Just a step in real quick, that architects face it, you've got architects calling you.
[12:50] I mean, we certainly should be looking at leveraging that, we are not going to be paying
[12:56] 9% of it.
[12:58] He said you would just go.
[12:58] This is not a 9% market.
[13:00] Yeah, it's not a 9% market.
[13:01] We would.
[13:01] Yeah.
[13:02] Yeah.
[13:03] I mean, it's still in the bank account.
[13:04] I know.
[13:05] Construction's going on in your market. Columbus, they're getting a higher fee because there's everything's tight there, right?
[13:11] Things here, there's just two great big school projects finishing up, Rockford finishing up, Anthony Wayne finishing up.
[13:17] So there should be a good labor market available for us too. All of those things going into all of these considerations, everybody's looking for work, right?
[13:25] So they just, but when, yeah, but no, we won't be paying any extra. Well, just giving you the general range that's around the fake.
[13:31] Well, it was exciting to know this basically January and on this whole next year is going to be 100 percent.
[13:37] Let's start moving because we could start.
[13:40] They project that we could start breaking ground in a year from now.
[13:44] We're both short on the judgment.
[13:46] We decided simultaneously to build together by next March.
[13:50] So then by the year of the school year of 2022,
[13:54] the beginning of that, both schools would be open and ready to roll that short on the judgment.
[13:58] So, but they projected 14, 15 months to build those schools.
[14:03] Then that would include the demolition of the old building.
[14:06] So, hopefully, 14, 15 months from now, we'll break the ground.
[14:12] Other things that we talked about in the meeting were energy systems and maybe considering
[14:16] a commissioning agent for a review when we get to that part.
[14:19] It's such the mechanical part, it's such a big part of your building and just there are
[14:23] people that do this for a living and so that's something we should consider.
[14:26] site access safety we're going to obviously have a lot of discussions around that
[14:30] that's a big discussion among our community but that certainly has changed a lot and all
[14:35] of these buildings were built and most students walked the school. Right. We really need to
[14:40] engineer that while looking at McGregor for example high school day and nightmare over there.
[14:47] And I have absolutely terrible. And I think all of our buildings got so bad. I see
[14:52] in the Gregor Wringer ladies.
[14:53] Yeah, I thought it was fresh.
[14:54] Yeah, I don't think so.
[14:56] I was talking about stormshelves.
[14:57] I was just going to say we're going to have two stormshelves.
[14:59] Stormshelves.
[15:00] Yeah, so big discussion, special in shorelands. I mean, I've had a lot of people very worried about that. So, and then also any locally funded initiatives that we might identify with. Revaluations that we've talked about this quarterly process. There's a review of progress in projects each year. And then also we submit everything to them quarterly. I'd say that later in the next live that it's like quarterly review. So annually, they look at everything. There's an annual audit. And then as cost increased, we talked about this
[15:29] before the ratio will remain the same, the dollars might change, and then as enrollment
[15:34] or master planning are reevaluated, it's always a chance to revisit the priorities because
[15:38] I think those probably will change in ten years.
[15:41] And then the support from OFCC and Regency, they service partners in the process, they're available
[15:46] as much as we need them, and they've already proven that they'll pick up the phone, which
[15:48] is great.
[15:49] Quarterly reviews to ensure we're meeting all the requirements, so we won't get out ahead
[15:53] of something and then come back later and say, oh yeah, we don't cover that, so that's
[15:57] great that they're all the time.
[15:59] And that our CMR would be the one constant contact with OFCC.
[16:03] So any change orders, anything that happens along the way,
[16:07] they'd be constantly communicating with each other.
[16:10] We also talked about the possibility of using an owner agent,
[16:13] which could be an additional role within the CMR contract.
[16:16] A lot of people do that.
[16:18] And then educational visioning recommendation.
[16:22] In the project, we did that as a part of the architect,
[16:25] but there's also separate people
[16:26] that OSCC has a recommendation list that do that visioning.
[16:30] We've done a lot of that here, but I think it's still got to be a,
[16:33] it has to be a part of the architect's piece.
[16:35] We want an architect who's listening, who's constantly responding.
[16:39] And that's another good reason why we're sort of at the tail end,
[16:43] is we can learn from what others have done in some of their mistakes along the way.
[16:48] We hopefully will not have to reinvent the wheel.
[16:50] Right.
[16:56] So we'll be going out for the architect and we're going to the last slide, did you?
[17:00] Our Q architect, I'm request for an architect at a January selection probably in
[17:05] December 2020, that'll be, we'll decide as a board in the next couple of meetings what that looks like,
[17:10] what the meeting dates are, when we'll bring the architect in, what we do around Robin,
[17:14] where we've got three or four set up in different rooms, we can all decide what that process looks like.
[17:19] I'm going for the same thing with the CMR, right on the heels of that, we'll be doing the same kind of process for CMR.
[17:25] That's a really important role because that's the person that represents you at the table.
[17:29] So the architect is very, very important, but that's the CMR is really important too.
[17:33] You want to feel comfortable with them. It's a trust relationship because they speak for you, especially on large changes.
[17:41] And sometimes those changes are just, oh, we didn't anticipate that the part of the
[17:48] girder wasn't going to hold the weight.
[17:50] And so now we have to move a wall.
[17:52] You need somebody there that really has good experience and really can articulate themselves
[17:55] well.
[17:56] Design would start April 2020 at the age of 12 month process.
[18:02] So I remember when I thought 2020 was so far away, this is four months away.
[18:06] So, bids go out in January, probably of 2021 and hopefully breaking ground in March of
[18:13] 21 and finished building.
[18:15] I left late summer on here because I like to under promise and over deliver.
[18:21] That's why I left it on there.
[18:23] They did talk about, you know, if we stagger the starts of these a little bit, we might open
[18:26] one in the fall and one in the winter.
[18:29] Rothbard, you can see they opened their elementary in the fall but they're high school junior
[18:33] high wing isn't opening to December.
[18:35] I mean, the good news for both of us in this case is that our kids are in their building.
[18:40] So, and we really don't want demolition too much going on when we've got kids around
[18:44] and all of that.
[18:44] So, the kids could be in their building if we're not as tight, although we won't tell
[18:50] the architect that.
[18:51] We're not as tight on the project as this, but that's the exciting stuff, very exciting stuff.
[19:04] Many more meetings to come, pretty much every week going forward for the next, probably
[19:09] three years, they'll be constructed, at least one construction meeting a week.
[19:14] Well, certainly in two years, you know, when you started the additional funding
[19:17] and the next round of discussion is based on two.
[19:21] Yeah, that, as soon as the buildings are underway and we get a little better idea
[19:26] where OF50 is, we're state funding is, we'll start pulling the community back in again
[19:30] and saying, okay, what's next? And a lot of that will be driven by
[19:33] cost, you know what happens in the community a lot of
[19:37] change in two years.
[19:39] What was your experience with Paul Prairie in Paris-Bert in
[19:43] terms of choosing the architect? That's the one we were
[19:46] really jumping in very quickly. That's next month we're
[19:49] talking about. We did a Ramravan kind of thing. There were some
[19:53] community members there that was an open meeting. They came in, they made their
[19:57] presentations. The board did an interview with each, that was part of it, is the
[20:02] boards and interviews and they, like I said, they each did presentations.
[20:06] It was pretty clear in that one. I mean, there was a pretty clear
[20:09] and I wouldn't say there was an easy choice. It's never an easy choice.
[20:12] How many did you have for that? I think there were four or five. There might have been five.
[20:18] The first thing that happened is we got
[20:20] 15, you know, and then you kind of run them through a rubric, narrow it down to, we're going to talk to 85.
[20:26] So, I think there might have been five.
[20:33] I don't really remember, I'll find out, all the finance would be there, I'll be back in,
[20:38] I probably actually still have notes and stuff.
[20:40] We did some similar when we put the new gym, renovated the auditorium.
[20:47] We did a project proposal.
[20:49] We met in different rooms.
[20:50] They did the rooms at the time.
[20:51] They did the proposals.
[20:51] And then we decided, as a team of us, we then select the five or four or whatever it would be.
[20:59] We narrow it down, and then the board would decide which one dermal is comfortable working with.
[21:04] It's a major decision.
[21:06] We've got some guidance on rubrics.
[21:08] They actually, OCC and Regency provide some rubrics to help us get through that initial marrying it down phase.
[21:15] So that's helpful.
[21:17] That would be good that we'll be able to...
[21:18] I mean, in some of them, I'd be out of it.
[21:20] Yeah, that's not somebody we're going to work with
[21:21] there from Managing Street or whatever.
[21:24] So, some against, that's true.
[21:27] No, actually, I like the way they fund their school.
[21:30] So, I love them, I actually love them.
[21:37] Yeah.
[21:39] I'm all in favor of a local person with a large staff.
[21:43] Yeah.
[21:45] Two buildings at the same time.
[21:46] Two buildings at the same time.
[21:47] I would like them to have.
[21:49] And that's what the question he asked about it is something we would do two buildings
[21:53] at once.
[21:53] There might be states that start three months or something like that so they can work
[21:57] that they would be done.
[21:58] I didn't know for it to be one and the next ones that they would be done or start in the
[22:02] process.
[22:02] It would seem logical that we start on one and then the team moves over to the next building
[22:06] and then kind of flow through.
[22:08] And a lot of that when we start could depend on fight prep to, just how much fight prep
[22:12] involved in either in both sites so yeah exciting very exciting you have an
[22:23] additional thing I just have a few other things so we're planning right now on a
[22:27] five o'clock reception at our next board meeting take in punch to honor our
[22:33] graduating board members opening it up to the community obviously and we've
[22:40] had staff members ask you know what one can we put in and shake hands and do all of
[22:44] So, we're finding just kind of open up this area at five o'clock, can't take, um, can we get one of those cakes like your picture on it?
[22:54] I'm not sure anybody would eat that.
[23:00] So, we have a little flyer with a real recent picture of you. I'm really recent picture.
[23:12] I don't know where she got it was a long time ago, I don't know where she got it, she's got
[23:18] file pictures.
[23:19] Oh no, this is really bad.
[23:24] So it's a good guy, okay we'll send that out, bomb, scaffold, get that too, so it's a
[23:30] regular genuine.
[23:32] It's a regular genuine.
[23:35] Yeah, let's not get to January, we're not ready, we're not ready for January over.
[23:40] To little clinic, just a little bit of an update on that, good opening, Jeff remind me.
[23:47] 17.
[23:48] 17.
[23:49] So, the estimates came in higher than we anticipated, you saw, you know, but that was a little
[23:54] bit higher than we anticipated.
[23:55] So, I can imagine 150 was going to do it, just, yeah, I know, I know.
[23:58] I can't believe that figured one.
[23:59] That's not possible.
[24:00] That's not possible.
[24:01] So Craig had warned us that going out for a bit at this time of year is tough, but we
[24:06] wanted to be out of this time of year just to get it so we at least know I'm including
[24:09] clinic art clinic.
[24:10] So the clinic obviously doesn't want to move forward until they have some ideas, so they're
[24:14] a little nervous about it, but until the bits get open we don't really know what it is.
[24:18] And I think I thought Craig had a fundraiser the other night and we talked really briefly
[24:26] we just about probably not going to be that, but he, again, he likes to under-promise
[24:31] over the lower.
[24:32] So that would be a case that might happen.
[24:34] So let's get the vids open, see what it is, and look at sort of coming back to the table
[24:38] and see how that's progressing.
[24:41] This process style has always been inserted about a zester.
[24:44] I just thought that number could have been good, I mean to me, but it's way more over.
[24:49] He just wants to cover himself because what happens if the estimate is lower, we can't exceed
[24:53] over 10 percent, we're at the rebad.
[24:55] Because the timeline, he wants to be comfortable with the HVAC that's happening, that there
[25:00] be a plunge available.
[25:02] Well, time will tell, I know what's out.
[25:06] Tina's prepared some draft date.
[25:09] I know that doesn't really impact YouTube, but it impacts YouTube and also you some draft
[25:15] dates that we might start to consider.
[25:16] I think it'd be helpful to have them ahead of time, even, you know, as far as advance
[25:21] as possible.
[25:21] So I'll have her email those. I still don't really love the format there. And so I'll just have her email those to everybody
[25:28] Just so you can start to think about oh man. No, this is like several complex. It might just
[25:33] Send up and there's several different proposals there. So you have got to start smiling
[25:41] I'm not saying I'm just going to slide a smile a little smile
[25:45] Oh, thank you.
[25:47] Thank you.
[25:48] Not you're just smiling.
[25:50] That's right.
[25:51] That's why I'm smiling.
[25:53] I'm smiling now.
[25:54] I'm smiling now.
[25:55] Can you just do smile on the good side?
[25:57] No, that'll do to you.
[25:57] It'll do to you.
[25:58] It'll do to you.
[25:58] It'll do to you.
[25:59] Yeah, there are days you won't be smiling.
[26:00] So I want to try to just smile now.
[26:02] I think so.
[26:04] So anyways, we'll email us out.
[26:06] So you can start to consider what the different options are.
[26:09] There could be a lot of time to process that before we ever get to the organizational meaning,
[26:12] which is where we'll actually vote on those.
[26:13] So that'll give you a lot of time to practice.
[26:17] February 1st is going to remind everybody.
[26:18] February 1st is the retreat.
[26:21] It's a Saturday.
[26:23] We have some contacts that at the Twitter club
[26:27] that are the room there would be really reasonable.
[26:31] They still feel strongly, it should be off site.
[26:33] I think it's a good idea to not have it here.
[26:35] So we'll do it off site.
[26:38] The morning part of it will be mostly
[26:42] how to function as a board.
[26:43] Some of that kind of, you know, here's some legislative updates, those kinds of things, and then the afternoon will be more of the business side of it.
[26:50] We'll probably, honestly, be talking about this and things like that at that point.
[26:54] I'm sure, so we'll be having all kinds of fun business to do.
[26:57] So it'll be a regular meeting, the regular meeting, but it's in all day meetings.
[27:02] So, Steve Horton will do the first part of it for us.
[27:04] And you guys will be, we'll probably will probably do more of it.
[27:09] We'll probably do as well.
[27:09] Yeah, um, we probably will report. Yeah, we'll report it. Oh, okay, we'll report it. Just like we would so long like nine, nine hour of being, but we won't do that long ago.
[27:22] Um, yes, and you guys are all going, I thought that you're all going to the, to the two day attorney before them, which is a new board member trend. Great. And I think Steve might be doing that training. So you'll know him really well by the time we do.
[27:34] did you like to talk to both of them? Do you remember the packet that it was
[27:39] over at OSBA it's that new board member 101 or so they're going to that
[27:45] two day training okay but they're also there's actual books I mean like
[27:49] I just was a nice packet when I got it okay I would I think we get the book
[27:53] when we go I think it's a little bit different it's different than than what
[27:58] you're I saw it at OSBA I saw it two years ago when I yeah it's a really nice
[28:02] packet of just everything you will need. It's a little different than your
[28:06] training, but it's just nice to have. I'll check it a little bit. Yeah, we'll check on it.
[28:11] My guest, the automatically send it to you. I probably want to add that there's a big binder on my guest.
[28:14] It probably looks like that. I was wondering if the bottom end would send it.
[28:19] You have to buy it for me. Okay, because I remember all I had. But it's too much.
[28:23] You got a record of that. So I'm not worried about that. I'm sure you'll be able to track it out.
[28:28] So you got to hand some smile.
[28:31] The last thing I just wanted to pass out to you this morning, again, just for you to review
[28:37] and for us to think about, you probably saw my letter yesterday that went out to staff.
[28:42] I have a copy for you.
[28:44] You may not have seen it on Edgeway.
[28:46] It's interesting.
[28:47] I've had a lot of emails already, probably 20 staff members that reached out to legislators.
[28:51] I called off three of them.
[28:53] Some of them, I was like, aren't you supposed to be teaching?
[28:55] You know, I did, but it's literally like over lunch.
[28:57] A lot of them got right on the phone, called the legislators.
[29:00] And I didn't have them call Lisa Slovakie or Theresa Futter
[29:03] because I already know they're in our corner.
[29:06] Jeff and I are meeting with them on Monday to kind of review
[29:09] our personal story with them.
[29:11] Theresa has legislation, writing to present
[29:14] to Representative Liner or Senator Liner.
[29:18] And but we would like to ask them to consider supporting
[29:23] the back and the OS vote so that things don't get too cloudy.
[29:27] This has to be emergency legislation if it doesn't, if we don't get a tweak on this before
[29:32] they go on Christmas break 9, 10 days from now, it won't happen because they don't get back
[29:37] until January 26th and February 1st about your application to go out.
[29:41] Well, it really needs some changes now.
[29:43] Well, that was sad looking at those numbers.
[29:45] I think it took an extra blow first of all that day.
[29:48] Well, seeing that about the kids that leave your French or scholarships to these other places
[29:55] are, I hate to use their names, but it's public information.
[30:00] Central Emanuel, all Catholics rule, they are performing much lower than we are. And they're
[30:09] taking our tax dollars to send to these schools that have horrible, horrible test results. But
[30:17] there are better options than here. I mean, some of these schools are like, okay, these
[30:23] that choice students that have to take the state test there and that's their test results.
[30:30] I mean we're here and they're there.
[30:32] So it was bad enough when they would not provide the money that we're entitled to and
[30:37] now they're taking money they've never given to us so I believe that's local tax dollars.
[30:40] They are taking local tax buyers, dollars, we pass a loving, it's going to raise a little
[30:45] over $3 million and roughly 25% of that is going to go to a private school.
[30:52] that they can discriminate on gender as well as the ability of who they accept.
[30:57] So you used that email yesterday, Karen, our side, you probably did not.
[31:02] So I have to choose the link to link with you right to the state website.
[31:06] So this is not our data.
[31:07] This is the state data that says you can pull down, you can pull down the city and
[31:12] pull it down in there.
[31:12] And then you'll see you look at the Greek array and also the household.
[31:16] And then you can see how they did.
[31:18] I'll also attach for you a spreadsheet that we put together here locally that has our
[31:22] scores across the top and has all that data in there it's easier because our scores
[31:26] won't be in there obviously so it's nice to see how we compared it's really nice to
[31:32] see how we compared to everybody else and that's that's really been our argument on
[31:37] Center Mac Hoffman has made a really big deal about how we should have seen as coming you
[31:43] you know, these underperforming schools, they kind of outslung the coverage here because
[31:49] they tack schooled like stolen Anthony Wayne, the two schools for Anthony Wayne that
[31:54] are on the list are in the top 4% in the state in performance and thus.
[31:58] So, but that K-3 literacy rate which is a very unfair and unilogical, very illogical calculation
[32:08] is what got them into that mess.
[32:09] So I think the good news is they just have to run school. So we might get a little bit of relief and really one word would change two schools for us.
[32:19] Just hand to org.
[32:23] I was going to say, I met with you the other day and you would, I didn't know you were sending a letter out that you mentioned.
[32:30] You had gone to any with the other superintendent and you gave me names.
[32:33] I'm all about writing a letter, and I had a chance to communicate with my former boss, Kevin Miller, from BASA, and he said two other names that we definitely need to write to our Senate President, Larry O'Vaugh, will be H-O-F and House Speaker Larry Householder.
[32:50] So those are two other names that I think people are inclined to write.
[32:53] They are, I mean, I probably, I, I didn't look this morning and look first thing because
[33:00] I had one come up right away.
[33:02] But literally 20 emails back that just that I've already called or I am calling, would
[33:06] you give me some talking points.
[33:08] So all of that, it's good, it's good that we have such a politically active staff, it's
[33:12] really great.
[33:13] I think, I've heard legislators say this over and over again.
[33:17] One or two calls, one or two letters, no big deal.
[33:19] They start to get 15.
[33:20] 15 is not a lot.
[33:22] But 15 is a tipping point for a lot of legislators.
[33:25] If they start to get 15, 20 calls, all of a sudden they're going to get way more than
[33:28] that.
[33:29] Because they're going to hear from that many people just from us.
[33:32] And people all over the state are outraged by this, so.
[33:34] Do you feel that at this point in time, time, time sensitive that e-mails the full calls are
[33:39] better served?
[33:40] Probably better.
[33:41] I think the letter's not going to get there.
[33:43] And by the time their staff member opens it, so their staff members would want answering
[33:46] the phone.
[33:47] I kind of like that.
[33:48] I like their phones ringing off the hook.
[33:49] I like that idea.
[33:51] Yeah, I like that vision in my head.
[33:52] It's on the right hand.
[33:54] So it happens here when something happens.
[33:56] So I like to see somebody else suffer a little.
[33:58] I think that's it.
[34:01] But I think that's it.
[34:02] When they feel bombarded, they're going to realize that, OK.
[34:07] And they need their pressure.
[34:09] They do need their pressure because here's the thing.
[34:10] They're going to go on Christmas break.
[34:11] And then it is too late.
[34:13] And that is probably what a few of them are counting on.
[34:16] I do believe that there are a small number of legislators
[34:19] that knew exactly what this was going to do.
[34:22] I think they probably didn't anticipate
[34:25] a persona being on the list.
[34:28] Number two districts are going to say, no one is safe.
[34:31] When Solombs on the list, no one is safe.
[34:33] Yeah, because I don't really know the thing.
[34:34] Oh, my God.
[34:35] Manless.
[34:35] Yeah.
[34:36] There are, there are our comparison groups that were not
[34:40] one split, we're not.
[34:43] So, and the ever changing rules, you just don't know it.
[34:46] I think, so one of the things that the North
[34:48] on set board of education did recently was pass a resolution, and there's also a sense
[34:53] to do that a lot.
[34:54] You know, they've passed a lot of resolutions.
[34:55] They like their resolutions.
[34:56] But I thought it would be interesting for you just to look at and ponder.
[35:00] It really wasn't.
[35:01] It is about edge choice, and the edge choice is expansion, and the unfair expansion at the 11th hour.
[35:06] But it's also about this last minute thing that we do in the budget bill here in Ohio so often,
[35:10] which is fly something in at 11.59 p.m. without any discussion.
[35:15] you know, a lot of time I thought I need impact studying any of that.
[35:19] So this resolution was more to just say, and it's a little public also passed very similar
[35:23] resolution recently, just to say, you know what, we don't think this is fair.
[35:26] We think that, you know, when you're making, when you're impacting kids' lives, there
[35:30] ought to be more discussion around that time, so I'm just going to share that with you.
[35:34] Something we can do that are as a board if you're interested, but I just, you're providing
[35:40] it to you so that you can see it and kind of ponder it for the future.
[35:49] But again, I think you're right. There's a teacher.
[35:52] Yes, they're very strategic.
[36:04] Any other questions?
[36:08] All right, then, I'd like to recommend that the board enter an executive session to discuss details relative to the security arrangement and emergency response protocols for the Board of Education.
[36:17] motion.
[36:17] Hello.
[36:18] Second.
[36:18] Motion by Mr. Hunter.
[36:21] Second by Mr. Hill.
[36:22] Strip.
[36:23] Discussion.
[36:24] Arnon.
[36:24] Please call the roll.
[36:27] Yes.
[36:28] The two.
[36:29] Yes.
[36:29] Now.
[36:31] Strip.
[36:32] Motion passes.
[36:33] 4-0.
[36:34] Dinner.
[36:35] Executive session.
[36:35] 8-39 AM.
[36:41] Let the recorders show that at 9-22 AM, the Washington local board of education members all
[36:47] came back from executive session and did, in fact, go over safety and security issues
[36:53] and solve the school district.
[36:56] Point of fact, only four of the five board members were here.
[36:59] Correct.
[36:59] Only four of the five board members that were here.
[37:03] Looking for a motion for adjournment, motion by Ms. Canales.
[37:09] Second.
[37:10] Second by Mr. Hunter.
[37:12] Discussion?
[37:13] Are none?
[37:13] Is color roll?
[37:15] It's Johnner.
[37:16] Yes.
[37:16] Yes.
[37:17] It's Joe Stark.
[37:17] Yes.
[37:18] This is now Smith.
[37:19] Yes.
[37:20] Mr. Hughes.
[37:20] Yes.
[37:21] Motion passes for zero.
[37:22] But the records are all recorded.
[37:24] The meeting hasn't made.
[37:25] He's on file on the officer.
[37:26] The treasure means they have returned at 9.22 a.m.