1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,740 All our meeting to order, if everyone would stand for pledge of allegiance, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:34,190 In this evening's meeting, we will at 7 o'clock adjourn from the regular meeting to go into budget adoption and then come back to where we were in the regular meeting. 3 00:00:36,270 --> 00:00:38,850 So with that, we will start 4 00:00:38,850 --> 00:00:48,110 with the minutes. I need to prove a little minutes as presented at tonight's meeting. Is there a motion to approve? 5 00:00:49,330 --> 00:00:51,430 Motion to approve. I didn't see any changes needed. 6 00:00:51,970 --> 00:00:53,130 I'll second that motion. 7 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:56,670 Motion is made in second. All in favor. Signed by the saying aye. 8 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:57,090 Aye. 9 00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:59,590 I will sign those afterwards. 10 00:01:01,030 --> 00:01:02,790 Police Department. Cheap random. 11 00:01:02,790 --> 00:01:03,710 I 12 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:14,670 just want to comment Eric and his crew on the stop sign up for the 14th Alabama 13 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:18,850 beginning of it's actually flowing a lot better and we did it really helped us 14 00:01:18,850 --> 00:01:24,370 cool traffic and with the buses and stuff. The other pleasant thing reports 15 00:01:24,370 --> 00:01:29,490 changes and my report is at 22 and 24 God's Ram is actually all the equipment came in 16 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:34,350 and it's been up for just a week now so hopefully within the next two weeks. Next I'm 17 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:38,510 seeking permission is an officer Stephanie Massey to the Department of 18 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:44,890 Toxicology for $400 a day in Annapolis for one day on October 7th, 2026, she will 19 00:01:44,890 --> 00:01:49,530 need use of the car and when we go for that day the certification again will 20 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:54,930 allow her to run a certified toxicizer at our station. All right so we need a 21 00:01:54,930 --> 00:02:03,210 motion to approve sending Stephanie to the class cost of $400 on October the 22 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:06,690 7th with one car and one meal. 23 00:02:08,010 --> 00:02:08,950 I'll make that motion. 24 00:02:09,090 --> 00:02:09,510 I'll second. 25 00:02:09,890 --> 00:02:11,330 Okay, motion is made in second. 26 00:02:11,490 --> 00:02:13,130 All in favor, signify the same eye. 27 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:13,450 Hi. 28 00:02:14,370 --> 00:02:16,970 And also if we'd like, if it's okay, if you guys, 29 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:19,770 we could get done in number four for the Munster dash route. 30 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:21,890 I've been working with Mike Steph being shared on this. 31 00:02:22,110 --> 00:02:22,310 Okay. 32 00:02:23,090 --> 00:02:25,530 They are going to go back to one of the original routes, 33 00:02:25,530 --> 00:02:27,190 instead of going around the old town lake, 34 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:30,070 because people with strollers and stuff can't do that. 35 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:35,010 So going back down the over to 10th in Vienna and around, it's approved the route that we 36 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:35,990 used to do years ago. 37 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:41,550 I did ask Mike Steffi for volunteers and he's going to provide that to at least part 38 00:02:41,550 --> 00:02:42,770 of not because there's a lot of intersections. 39 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:48,310 So along with board approval, I approved that route for use that then. 40 00:02:48,450 --> 00:02:48,690 Okay. 41 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:49,170 Okay. 42 00:02:49,310 --> 00:02:51,550 So no crossing of mainstream or anything like that? 43 00:02:51,790 --> 00:02:56,790 They'll start like they do down at the bottom of the 16th go up and they go up 15th towards 44 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:57,330 the high school. 45 00:02:57,330 --> 00:03:04,910 And then everything's basically over to 10 down Alabama to be in in 20th back into the park area. 46 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:13,310 And Sharon did say she reviewed the release language in their application for that registration form and she was fine with it. 47 00:03:13,550 --> 00:03:13,570 Okay. 48 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:21,890 All right. So with that and with Rob's approval, I need a motion to approve the monster dash route. 49 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:24,390 I'll make that motion. 50 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:29,290 I'll second that motion right emotions and made second all in favor signif I'm saying aye 51 00:03:29,290 --> 00:03:30,130 Hi 52 00:03:30,130 --> 00:03:32,530 Okay, thank you, thank you. I do 53 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:34,630 Fire department 54 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:40,730 Electric department Todd 55 00:03:41,470 --> 00:03:46,910 He is going to be yeah, that's right. It's a 25th wedding anniversary. It is 56 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:49,170 But the important one doubt to miss 57 00:03:50,430 --> 00:03:52,310 Property street department Eric 58 00:03:52,310 --> 00:03:53,170 I've 59 00:04:01,430 --> 00:04:07,330 got one thing to say to report, as you might have noticed, the PDA sidewalk project 60 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:08,570 is moving on this week. 61 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:09,030 Yeah. 62 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:09,690 Great. 63 00:04:09,730 --> 00:04:15,330 We're marring to be the last floor on it, so kind of happy to get that done one of the 64 00:04:15,330 --> 00:04:15,470 ways. 65 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:19,110 Yeah, it looks like you've had a few irons in the fire going on. 66 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:19,330 Yeah. 67 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:22,870 So that's all I've got. 68 00:04:23,410 --> 00:04:23,730 All right. 69 00:04:24,110 --> 00:04:25,270 We're looking great there. 70 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:26,090 Thank you. 71 00:04:27,390 --> 00:04:29,710 Okay. Waste water water department, Ben. 72 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:31,970 I do have a couple of things. 73 00:04:39,630 --> 00:04:44,390 Just an update. Council ask to wild back about if we were doing, 74 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:47,810 that we're doing is good with our lateral inspections, 75 00:04:47,810 --> 00:04:49,230 if I was helpful in the ion ion. 76 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:52,830 Running through some numbers, I created some Excel sheets. 77 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:57,550 Currently we are 20 million gallon less than our tenure average 78 00:04:57,550 --> 00:04:59,070 on what we treated this year. 79 00:04:59,070 --> 00:05:03,650 And we've also had 45 or no 52 inches of rain. 80 00:05:04,050 --> 00:05:10,690 Normally, at this time of year, we've had about 44 to 42, 44 inches. 81 00:05:12,130 --> 00:05:17,870 Are you finding areas to repair about 60 percent? 82 00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:19,310 What's the reason for that? 83 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:26,030 Quail lines that have collapsed or cracks or roots have been coming into the joints for the seals. 84 00:05:28,530 --> 00:05:29,590 That's good news. 85 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:30,170 Great news. 86 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:34,730 Nothing as we did have to purchase a pH probe. 87 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:36,750 Our current one is failed here. 88 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:41,810 Currently using an older model. 89 00:05:44,030 --> 00:05:45,550 We're trying to get that all worked out. 90 00:05:45,850 --> 00:05:46,990 But where are we going to read? 91 00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:48,190 We just need a newer probe. 92 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:52,830 For our testing. 93 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:55,010 which we're required to have by them. 94 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:56,230 Thank you. 95 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:56,750 Yeah. 96 00:05:57,170 --> 00:05:58,710 The price came in about $7, $800. 97 00:05:59,590 --> 00:06:00,070 Okay. 98 00:06:00,610 --> 00:06:04,750 And then just a fish tree update for your halfway 99 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:06,750 in between Carolina and Maryland right now, 100 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:09,770 140 feet from Maryland currently. 101 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:11,310 We have four service points around, 102 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:16,310 and there were 400 feet completely from the end of the project. 103 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:18,050 Thank you. 104 00:06:19,970 --> 00:06:21,270 Good question for you. 105 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:26,950 if we get the grid removal, can you get me some kind of a summary of when you think 106 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:34,390 that work will start so I can let some folks know? Yeah, I'll grab the bench sheet they 107 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:38,310 had a timeline on there. Okay, yeah, get with me and then I'll relay it from there. 108 00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:45,630 Their timeline was being online, I don't know, first week. Okay, first week of late. 109 00:06:45,630 --> 00:06:49,510 start timeline for it to be operating was first we could do it but I don't 110 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:54,210 remember what work was going to start okay like 30 we'd leave time yeah it was 111 00:06:54,210 --> 00:06:56,890 pretty long yeah until I could get to it okay 112 00:06:59,830 --> 00:07:02,910 thank you park department Matt could 113 00:07:02,910 --> 00:07:09,150 not be here tonight so his report was turned into us I guess we need to get you a 114 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:13,450 copy of it I do have one thing that Matt had text me earlier 115 00:07:13,450 --> 00:07:14,350 It's 116 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:25,520 out of the 5th Street playground, the regular slide is off-limits now, it's the 117 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,220 place you could crack on it, and we're trying to find something to match up to 118 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:37,400 that because there is no replacement parts for this because it's probably put in 119 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:44,060 back in 2002 somewhere in that area, so we're meeting with some of my next weeks 120 00:07:44,060 --> 00:07:51,580 see what we can come up with and you say it's metal or what? It's plastic. Yeah. And is that 121 00:07:51,580 --> 00:07:58,280 mystery? Yeah. Okay. So you've got that marketing. I'm sure you do. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for letting 122 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:07,280 everybody know why though. All right. I gave redevelopment commission. They did not meet tonight because there 123 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:13,000 wasn't anything on the agenda to be talked about. And marketing we have our written report also. 124 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:23,780 With that, we'll go into Framing Ferdinum update and road clothing for October 10th. 125 00:08:23,780 --> 00:08:25,840 And I think we got that settled at the last meeting. 126 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:29,440 Yeah, this is settled in the route that was afforded by me and she has volunteers to assist 127 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:29,820 at that. 128 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,580 I just put extra stuff so the agenda goes really fast. 129 00:08:35,830 --> 00:08:41,210 And then we have Ferdinum Tourism Road Closing Request for October 10th and it says Kathy 130 00:08:42,810 --> 00:08:47,470 I get to wear a few hats sometimes, I guess I got to go up here. 131 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:48,310 Several 132 00:08:51,770 --> 00:09:00,290 months ago, you had approved the closing of that evening of 12th Street, but we learned 133 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:08,770 when we had our event in July, the sun is fierce right there, and people kind of shifted 134 00:09:08,770 --> 00:09:15,610 everything to the back so we are asking rather than closing 12th on that day can we 135 00:09:15,610 --> 00:09:20,610 close Maryland just in that block and we check with the neighbors and they're 136 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:24,610 all okay with it so people can set up their chairs and things there and then 137 00:09:24,610 --> 00:09:30,990 the music can be faced that way and that'll be sort of a conclusion it'll be a 138 00:09:30,990 --> 00:09:36,590 October fest at the end of October fest which as you know is chump full all kinds 139 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:42,570 Things of fun things from the ribbon cutting and dedication of the mural, too, and there's 140 00:09:42,570 --> 00:09:48,850 going to be vendors there, which was what, the previous one was, two things all over 141 00:09:48,850 --> 00:09:56,690 town, all kinds of activities, and then in the evening, tourism is at the hudder, whatever 142 00:09:56,690 --> 00:10:02,950 we want to call it, Casibo, going to do as we did in July, and have music, it's going 143 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:05,870 to be Debbie Scheter, and food. 144 00:10:06,410 --> 00:10:08,430 You're going to try making Ruben sandwiches 145 00:10:08,430 --> 00:10:10,330 and the more ice out they're going. 146 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:14,090 I make it for the more, you know, 147 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:17,490 I don't think we're capable of that kind of manufacture. 148 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:18,590 I don't know about the hamburgers. 149 00:10:18,690 --> 00:10:22,650 We'll have pretzels and beer and other beverages. 150 00:10:24,010 --> 00:10:26,470 So we just wanted to make sure we can switch 151 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:28,290 from 12th to Maryland. 152 00:10:28,910 --> 00:10:32,050 So you'd be looking at just that block there. 153 00:10:32,050 --> 00:10:34,990 Yeah, just that block, and it would just be like five o'clock. 154 00:10:35,810 --> 00:10:38,810 So you want to legally block at this time instead of? 155 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:40,610 Well, probably. 156 00:10:41,710 --> 00:10:42,850 I don't know. 157 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:45,530 I think we only blocked it last time, didn't we? 158 00:10:45,810 --> 00:10:45,970 Yeah. 159 00:10:46,430 --> 00:10:49,490 I think probably the chairs out there just blocked it. 160 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:50,090 Yeah. 161 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:52,430 That's what you're saying over all. 162 00:10:52,510 --> 00:10:54,130 Everybody's shifting to the stage. 163 00:10:54,130 --> 00:10:54,510 Yes. 164 00:10:54,830 --> 00:10:57,050 And I felt sorry for the performers because they were 165 00:10:57,050 --> 00:11:00,770 to sweaty out there in their Frenchie cows. 166 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:04,050 So we had hardly any problems with that. 167 00:11:04,050 --> 00:11:04,150 So. 168 00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:04,910 No, I talked to Tracy. 169 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:07,710 I didn't think I did say the road closed sides wouldn't 170 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:10,790 be up there till almost 3 o'clock due to the other vent 171 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:11,490 road that day. 172 00:11:11,610 --> 00:11:12,370 They said it was fine. 173 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:14,350 Yeah, that's real problem because we didn't think it was 174 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:14,530 enough. 175 00:11:14,990 --> 00:11:17,250 And Maryland, kind of less thoroughfare, right? 176 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:19,250 Then was that would be with just the beast 177 00:11:19,250 --> 00:11:20,630 who are on there and then the Lincoln. 178 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:22,810 Yeah, so there's not that many homes. 179 00:11:22,810 --> 00:11:25,130 This third makes perfect thing. 180 00:11:25,130 --> 00:11:33,640 All right, so we need a motion then to approve closing off Maryland Street and not 12th Street on October the 10th. 181 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,480 What was the time frame? 182 00:11:35,380 --> 00:11:37,040 Think about five, really. 183 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:40,800 I think it's probably a little before five, two, ten, or the latest. 184 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,700 I think we'll try trying to get out of the way. 185 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:43,720 10. 186 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:46,460 Yeah, come to the wrap up of the day. 187 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,200 Ron, it'll probably be officially closed from 3 to 11. 188 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,660 That way we can get the signs out there early. 189 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,900 Eric will have them loaded up for us. The police department will do it. 190 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:59,920 So we'll get the signs about three that once it's done we'll get picked up easily 10 30 to 11 o'clock 191 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Stay at that. Okay, all right 192 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,740 But the events like from five to 10 ish. I think right Kathy with the music and everything 193 00:12:06,740 --> 00:12:12,360 Well, thank you if it didn't stay in my position, but for that it turns in commission move 194 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:22,000 We appreciate that. Yeah, thank you for the mini hat motion then to close Maryland Street on October the 10th from roughly three o'clock to 195 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,560 I'll take the motion. 196 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:27,180 All right. 197 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:28,520 Motion is made in second. 198 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:29,100 All in favor. 199 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,020 Signify the same. 200 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,900 All right. 201 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,180 All right. 202 00:12:33,340 --> 00:12:33,760 Thank you. 203 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:34,260 Yeah. 204 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:35,240 Looking forward to it, guys. 205 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,700 And I had a question for the Water Department. 206 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:39,300 Can I look here? 207 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,180 Yeah. 208 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:46,000 Introduce yourself. 209 00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:46,820 Yeah. 210 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,120 Thanks, Don Farina. 211 00:12:49,660 --> 00:12:50,460 It was 7.20, honey. 212 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:51,320 It's 23rd Street. 213 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:53,600 I just have a question for the Water Department there. 214 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:54,700 Okay. 215 00:12:54,700 --> 00:12:57,620 Receive a letter in the mail about the lid in the water. 216 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:02,480 Is that just in a one area or is that town one? 217 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,440 So do you want to go out there so that they will be younger recording? 218 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:09,060 It's going to be brought up later than we do. 219 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:10,780 Oh, I'm sorry, that's fine. 220 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,900 So we had a lead and copper sample come back high. 221 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:22,620 We ended up having two that came over the limit. 222 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Which goes over our 90s percentile. 223 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,800 We take 10 samples. 224 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,820 so that's two out of 10 that came over to let it. 225 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:37,300 These two, one is normally high. 226 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:40,080 It's been coming down in the past three years 227 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,240 for parts per billion. 228 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,620 The other one has always been low, 229 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:49,780 but has been a vacant home for the past six months. 230 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,480 And with that vacant home, it was really, 231 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,440 it was an operator error in taking a sample. 232 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,780 I took the sample. 233 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:01,480 I thought I wouldn't know it was completely vacant. I wouldn't have taken 234 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,520 the sample. The way I did, I would have tried to find another home and take it from because 235 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,760 with more sits, that's what we in the industry call hungry water. It's where it starts 236 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,240 grounding particles out of your piping. 237 00:14:15,940 --> 00:14:20,060 If your home is built between 1983 and 1986, that is 238 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:25,280 the biggest factors item looks at when doing the samples because they have the highest 239 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:32,400 lead concentration as far as lead solder and those right at the end of the lead band. 240 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Where we start lead band solder, lead piping was banned and people were trying to get rid of it 241 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,860 pushing in the houses. 242 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:49,820 We have done the LC, the lead and copper surveys. We had two homes 243 00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:55,280 When we say that they had led, we went, led as a service line to those homes, and we 244 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,240 viewed. They did not have LED service lines. They were copper, they have LED solder. 245 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:07,640 So, the letter we had to send out to the item because of the samples. 246 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:33,480 It's not in the distribution system, it's coming through the hot, it's when the water is eating the part of the house. Okay. When it sits for a little. None of our lines have led in them. That's what you're saying. It's like it's private to that home. Okay. It's all I need. Thank you. Good question. It was going to come up later anyway. So you've got to hit it again. 247 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:43,760 All right next community crossing matching grant 2026-02 was awarded to 248 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,400 Kinesh construction and update on that air. 249 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:59,040 Okay the update on it is Alabama Street is 250 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:08,220 pretty much finished up with the curb print and the storm sewer placement and we're 251 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:15,120 working on 5th Street now, East 5th. They've got two crews there right now so 252 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:25,680 it's really speeding things up now and I really like to thank Denise for being 253 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:32,160 really good at their work and doing. We got a good relationship going and if they 254 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,440 He sees that and it's not working right when he comes me up there right away. 255 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,100 We have had to shut down like one block at a time when they're working because they 256 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:47,180 got these big track holes and it's taken up a lot of the road. 257 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:50,760 So to be safer we're just shutting down a block. 258 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:58,980 I mean, E6 is a good bypass for any traffic so it seems to be working out good. 259 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:05,280 So we're near the end so we're ready. 260 00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:07,020 That's ready. 261 00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:07,360 Yeah. 262 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:07,760 Second. 263 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:11,940 They're just going to do all three together for the pavement. 264 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,180 That looks really great. 265 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,980 They did a really good job there. 266 00:17:16,860 --> 00:17:17,420 Yeah. 267 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,140 That's all. 268 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:18,900 Good plan. 269 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:19,920 Thank you, Eric. 270 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:21,400 All right. 271 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,960 Then, community crossing matching grant 202701 application. 272 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:34,320 I have it. Eric and I just need to do one final review before we submit it, but the summary is in front of you. 273 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:40,500 And you did sign those letters for the commitment and you approved that at the last meeting. 274 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:42,880 So the summary is in front of you, the roads. 275 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:47,600 Again, hopefully we'll be successful on that. 276 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Yeah, I'm matching that we would end up doing is a total would be $132,279.37. 277 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:01,640 sense. If you did the math, I have a broken down. Yeah. So that's on a five hundred and one thousand 278 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:10,740 dollar project. We did we've already done it. Yeah, this is just a breakdown. Yep. Thank you. Okay. 279 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:17,140 Looks good. Good. What a line for me by September 30th. We've gotten that taken care of them, right? Okay. 280 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:20,640 All right. Utilities accounts receivable. 281 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:25,380 You have the summary in front of you since this meeting is falling pretty early. 282 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:31,400 The 15 usually it could be as late as the 21st. It's a little bit higher than normal, but do 283 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:35,140 our best. Turn off a few people sometimes. 284 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:43,400 Cyber security update, nothing new to add there at this time. 285 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,000 RDC ready grant. 286 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,480 I think we're really new to report this time, I think. 287 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:57,780 Yes, the update we saw is a lot agreement. They're still working on all of that to give to us for our approval down the road 288 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:03,300 Yes, I think the plants being more fun and other things too, so yeah, so wait not all the documents, but they're coming 289 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:09,120 All right trail grant update Debbie. Nothing new on that right now 290 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,600 All right property tax reform update 291 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,940 Tomorrow there is a must meeting requirement by the state 292 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:26,360 for the city's towns and minis and county to get together to talk about the 293 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:32,420 reduction in property taxes and how to recoup that money in some way so we'll 294 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:37,640 be having a meeting tomorrow night at the Jasper City Hall. I think it's at 4.30 295 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,470 and 4.30 down in their five and a while around. Most is actually the name of 296 00:19:43,470 --> 00:19:46,490 I think it's not saying that must go into the U.S. 297 00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:48,790 It's preprochewary. 298 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:51,540 All right. 299 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,740 Health insurance committee update, Debbie. 300 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,780 I think we pretty much covered that at the September 8 meeting. 301 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,400 I believe at this time Tammy is met with all the departments, 302 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,540 say, have all chosen their programs 303 00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:04,880 and were in the process of finalizing all the details. 304 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,420 Okay. 305 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,440 A couple of these things got hit at the September 8 special meeting. 306 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:11,780 So that's why they just, this agenda was done. 307 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,520 I just didn't go back and take it on. 308 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,160 All right. Fall clean up. October 13th, 15th. Aaron, 309 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:26,810 it wasn't for the camera. We put a microphone on it. 310 00:20:30,270 --> 00:20:39,530 Like you said, the dates are 13th, 14th, 15th, it's necessary. The 13th will be on the west side, 14th east side. 311 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:46,970 and we do have one change this year. We will not be taking FTVs. They're just too 312 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:54,890 costly to get rid of and that's about the only change this year. I think it's 313 00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:57,790 actually still take those out to the Du Bois County dump sites, right? 314 00:20:57,790 --> 00:21:00,290 in the Jasper's site. 315 00:21:00,570 --> 00:21:01,250 Jasper's site. 316 00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:02,010 Okay. 317 00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:03,130 Okay. 318 00:21:03,650 --> 00:21:04,230 Followed waste. 319 00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:06,190 They have auctioned. 320 00:21:06,410 --> 00:21:07,910 There's there are six stickers. 321 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:08,910 Yeah. 322 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:09,450 Okay. 323 00:21:10,690 --> 00:21:12,870 You're going to listen to quality or whatever. 324 00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:13,590 Six. 325 00:21:13,790 --> 00:21:13,930 Yeah. 326 00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:17,010 These are now. 327 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:18,830 Okay. 328 00:21:19,090 --> 00:21:21,270 It doesn't want to invite a whole house out there. 329 00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:26,810 So it's six stickers and you're probably best to put them on. 330 00:21:27,390 --> 00:21:32,990 late that morning. Or on something nobody will want to take off of your driveway. 331 00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:36,330 That's all I know. All right, thank you. Thank you. 332 00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:39,990 Probably these would mind people by not put them up to work. Well, the thing is that it's 333 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:46,610 tragic. Yeah. They'll see tragic. Yeah. And I think that the website has all the 334 00:21:46,610 --> 00:21:51,950 list of everything we take to our town website. It does. Yeah. I think we did go 335 00:22:00,210 --> 00:22:06,350 So the popular software ever since I came was called Keystone and over the past three 336 00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:11,230 or four years Keystone was sold and then it was merged into a bigger company called BSNA. 337 00:22:12,410 --> 00:22:17,830 It's a lot different than we're used to and it's a lot more expensive. 338 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:25,110 So Keystone isn't going away in the next two, one or two years, but it is going to be eliminated. 339 00:22:25,670 --> 00:22:33,030 So instead of waiting till they kick us off, some of their clerks and I did some interviews 340 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,700 with fry software Edmonds and BSNA and the summaries in front of you. 341 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:46,420 But the cost of BSNA for the first year would have been almost $90,000 Edmonds was $96,000 342 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:53,520 dollars and Fry is $31,000 per year for the first implementation year. Then after that the SNA was 343 00:22:53,520 --> 00:23:01,540 $46,000 a year, Edmunds was $50,000 a year, and Fry is less than $20,000 a year. Currently we pay 344 00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:11,720 about $16,000 a year with Keystone. It's a very similar product. Fry is still family-owned. I think it's 345 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:17,220 good fit for us everybody here in the office was part of this decision and I guess I would like 346 00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:22,060 your blessing so that we can get on their schedule because right now they're starting implementations 347 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:29,000 when you're out because a lot of people are jumping from Keystone because BSNA I mean for a small town 348 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:42,710 $90,000 for one year for software isn't doable so and I'm hopeful some other local clerks that sat 349 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:45,730 that in on the same meetings, we'll do the same thing 350 00:23:45,730 --> 00:23:47,550 because then we'll have support with each other. 351 00:23:48,650 --> 00:23:50,630 I know, Kim, there's need to talk to Matt. 352 00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:53,830 So they did give us a discount of $3,500 353 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:58,230 because we did a joint teaching over three different days 354 00:23:58,230 --> 00:24:01,470 to go through the different modules. 355 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:05,030 I mean, it's gonna be a difficult conversion, 356 00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:06,250 no matter who we go with. 357 00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:09,250 If we stayed with the SNA, they'd still have to merge you 358 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:09,690 onto there. 359 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:15,230 So there's going to be a conversion one way or the other. It's just how much do you want to pay for it? 360 00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:17,150 And can they do what we need it to do? 361 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:18,010 Yeah, so. 362 00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:21,070 There's some significant cost. 363 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:22,310 Yeah, there's. 364 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:23,550 I don't know who you go with. 365 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:27,150 And it was going to be a learning curve regardless of who you go with. 366 00:24:27,270 --> 00:24:30,050 Because no merger ever, ever, ever happens smoothly. 367 00:24:30,550 --> 00:24:32,090 So, you know, thanks for that. 368 00:24:32,530 --> 00:24:38,150 I mean, I have had two, I've had two different conversions and while they tell you it's all going 369 00:24:38,150 --> 00:24:44,070 to go over real smooth. There's always still manual labor involved in it. I can question 370 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:51,170 on that. Kathy, you said Dale is going to, could maybe Dale and Ferdinand get together 371 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:56,370 and maybe see if we can get a discount? We already did. Oh, you already did. That's the 3500. 372 00:24:56,710 --> 00:25:03,430 Okay. All right. I mean, it's 3500. That's good. I mean, when you look at the annual 373 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:09,710 Okay, it's less than doing the same because everyone was with the keystone and the auditors 374 00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:16,570 really like the state board accounts really liked keystones, the reports and fry seems 375 00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:21,450 to be very willing to say what do you want your report to look like and the more of us 376 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:27,470 that go there will help hopefully shame but there will be a period of time where we're still 377 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:32,630 playing for keystone but we're going to start the implementation so we did try to build 378 00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:38,990 that end of the budget is the best we could so it's going to have to happen. 379 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:48,490 So with that in mind, based on your investigation, you and the staff here, we need a motion then 380 00:25:48,490 --> 00:25:58,690 to allow Tammy to go ahead and sign up with Fry at a cost of roughly $31,908.42 on the 381 00:25:58,690 --> 00:26:07,370 first year and then going down to 18,712 dollars and 72 cents the second year as we make 382 00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:09,850 the conversion away from key stumbling. 383 00:26:10,290 --> 00:26:14,430 And they even went with the price increase being 2% for the next five years. 384 00:26:14,910 --> 00:26:18,670 So that's at least a little bit more. 385 00:26:18,750 --> 00:26:20,070 It's locked in for two cents. 386 00:26:20,970 --> 00:26:21,330 Very good. 387 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:22,090 All right. 388 00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:26,510 So I need a motion to approve, Tammy going with a fry. 389 00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:34,090 I'll make that motion I will second that motion motions and made and second all in favor say if I'm a saying aye 390 00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:54,040 We did that on the 8th I just didn't get this you know basically not going to renew them because of the cost and I did talk to tourism and 391 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,300 Tourism agree with that so as did emergence 392 00:26:59,260 --> 00:27:01,320 Water department lead education 393 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,240 I think you just did it, didn't you? 394 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,940 I wanted to do some more stuff. 395 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,000 All right, we can come back to it. 396 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,340 Next one will probably take us up to 7 o'clock. 397 00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:18,860 Trick or treat hours for Saturday, October the 31st. 398 00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:23,960 Last year, it was from 5 until 7.30 p.m., but that was a weekday. 399 00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:29,420 So we have to establish hours this year. 400 00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:31,220 Halloween is on a Saturday. 401 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,980 I still like 5 to 7 30. That's enough time. I'm open to it. It's 402 00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:44,940 to stay lighted 5 yet when the kids start out. That's kind of no fun for the kids, but it's 403 00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:52,600 safer so it's like a way. It will be out of candy by 6 30. I'm turning the light off after you have 404 00:27:52,600 --> 00:28:00,060 100 kids come through. That's fine. Close to 200 kids. Even if you're living in the country. I eat all the 405 00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:00,220 Thank you. 406 00:28:02,420 --> 00:28:03,160 That's our fun. 407 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:03,720 All right. 408 00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:09,080 So we need a motion to approve trick or treating hours or October the 31st from 5 p.m. 409 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,280 to 7 p.m. 410 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:11,700 That night only. 411 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:12,540 I'll make that move. 412 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,580 I'll take it. 413 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,040 All second. 414 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,940 Motion is made second. 415 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:15,600 All in favor. 416 00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:15,940 Second. 417 00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:16,880 I'm saying aye. 418 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,620 I think you need to go something in the paper to tell the little kids that we're something 419 00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:21,820 on the on. 420 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,180 Some of the kids have some nice outfits but they're not. 421 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,440 They do. 422 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,060 They do. 423 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,140 I don't think there's many of you guys doing your stuff. 424 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,120 I don't think there's many of you guys doing your stuff. 425 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,300 Number 19 yet because we still got a couple of minutes. 426 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,060 Folk Fest Saturday, this Saturday September to the 19th. 427 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:48,220 The donation is that for the 10th, Tammy? 428 00:28:48,620 --> 00:28:52,120 Yes, and I had the email is $584.50. 429 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,720 It's one half of the 10th rental. 430 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,520 five, 84, 50? 431 00:28:57,780 --> 00:28:58,060 Yes. 432 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,720 Last year we split the cost with them because previously, 433 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,020 our people put the tent up and basically got down to it. 434 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:15,000 It wasn't going to pass permit time with the state fire marshal. 435 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Because of the condition of the tent, right? 436 00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:18,120 Not because of anything they did wrong. 437 00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:21,680 Because of the condition of the tent and the anchoring and everything. 438 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,600 and then this another company comes in they literally install it and they come 439 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,240 back the day after take it down and everything so we're saving more than 440 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:37,580 five hundred and eighty four dollars in labor so we you know the deal was 441 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:42,120 last year was to split it with the folk festival and then this year the same 442 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,840 so is there emotion to approve splitting the cost of the tent with the folk 443 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,820 and our cost of $584.50. 444 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,120 Because it's a town sponsored and townwide event 445 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,740 and that all people who do the work on our volunteers, 446 00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,980 I absolutely think this is the least. 447 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,320 We can do so. I will make that motion. Okay. Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor, signify, I'm saying aye. Aye. Aye. With that, it's seven o'clock. 448 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:31,160 So we have to, I need the motion then to open the budget adoption. So let me go ahead, wrong. Got no second motion and second. All in favor, signify, I'm saying aye. Aye. Okay. With that, Tammy. Okay. So at the last meeting, we went through the notice. 449 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,480 to the tax payers which was Form 3. It's the second form you have. We went through that in detail 450 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:43,040 and I can do that again but pretty much we get tax money from property taxes and it's allocated 451 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:51,700 between the general fund, NVH, Park and CUMECAP fund which is just for fire. So if you look at the 452 00:30:51,700 --> 00:31:03,340 tax levy, that's where it gets divided, and that is the total of $1,142,865. And compared 453 00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:10,400 to last year of $1,083,405, that's about a 6% increase, and that's something the Department 454 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,620 of Local Government Finance gives us, and we always try to get the maximum levy that we can. 455 00:31:14,620 --> 00:31:21,360 The other amounts listed there are other funds that we spend other monies on but it's 456 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,420 not tax money that gets allocated. 457 00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:26,060 So that first column is all those other funds. 458 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,620 The ordinance that is in front of you shows, let me just go from my notes. 459 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:43,220 The form for on page two, the advertised budget is $3,446,910 and that is without the home 460 00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:50,180 Some ruled funds, things like possible grants, donations, economic development and loan 461 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:50,480 fund. 462 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,580 Actually, that was zero this year. 463 00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:55,320 Opioid money and possible community crossing grants. 464 00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:59,840 And compared to last year, that was $2,803,090. 465 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,460 This year was a little bit higher. 466 00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:07,440 Part of it is due to the budgeting of buying that fire rescue truck. 467 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:19,640 That's an adopted tax rate of 0.6792 compared to last year of 0.6480 and last year's actual rate was 0.5544. 468 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:31,840 That's on an assessed value of 166,106 dollars and 477 compared to last year it is a little bit higher this year than I take. 469 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,240 I think it's a little bit higher than 164,888,000 and $44. 470 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Last year's maximum levy was $1,882,988 and that's about a 6% increase to get to this 471 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,000 year of $1,142,865. 472 00:32:53,220 --> 00:33:02,260 This budget form three was advertised on budgetnotices.ion.gov, at least 10 days before the meeting 473 00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:08,680 in August on the 18th and then this meeting was also advertised and we gave it an ordinance 474 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,200 number at the last meeting of number 15 and that's what I'm asking you to approve. 475 00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:20,810 So 476 00:33:24,490 --> 00:33:33,550 with that, we have in front of us ordnance number 2026-15, it's basically stating what 477 00:33:33,550 --> 00:33:39,510 our budget will be for the year on, I guess, state approval, we have, right? 478 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:52,720 So with that, I need a motion to approve ordnance number 2026-15 on the night that it was 479 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,560 is presented here. 480 00:33:56,780 --> 00:33:57,140 Tell me. 481 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,180 I'll second that motion. 482 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,920 The motion is made in second. 483 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560 All in favor signify by saying aye. 484 00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:04,040 Aye. 485 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,000 And this is a little different. 486 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,100 We have to mark our vote in our signature on each one. 487 00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:12,170 There's one of them in their back. 488 00:35:12,370 --> 00:35:12,550 Sure. 489 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:13,450 You can have my opinion. 490 00:35:14,090 --> 00:35:14,330 All right. 491 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:17,290 Now they need a motion to close budget adoption. 492 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:19,660 Oh, second. 493 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:21,140 The motion is made in second. 494 00:35:21,140 --> 00:35:23,000 All in favor signify by saying aye. 495 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,420 Aye. 496 00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:24,420 We 497 00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:44,500 have number 20 is next ordinance concerning tampering with water meters. We're going to delay that to the next meeting as there's a couple of changes that I saw in there that I'd like to make before we presented for final approval. 498 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,860 Okay, yes, that's 499 00:36:00,730 --> 00:36:06,670 one of our item requirements we're supposed to have a public meeting about 500 00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:12,690 what should be done to check your office with the lending office exceedants that we found. 501 00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:20,770 And these are steps you can take your own if you're worried about the bed exceedants. 502 00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:40,130 Fush your faucets if your water is set more than six hours unused in your home, run your cold water cap for at least one to two minutes, or until the water is mostly cooler for using it. 503 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:54,110 only use cold water for that for cooking, drinking, and the baby formula. Hot water will actually dissolve lead and you're plumbing faster in cold water. 504 00:36:55,030 --> 00:37:07,510 Boiling water does not help with this issue, either it will actually make the lead more dilute in your water, just because you're going to be going off the water and not off the lead. 505 00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:10,070 and it's a metal that will stay in there. 506 00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:13,070 Clean your air raiders. 507 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:14,610 So let's prove them. 508 00:37:15,010 --> 00:37:16,050 Clean the small mesh greens. 509 00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:19,570 Are your faucets regularly debris and tiny particles 510 00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:22,330 of lead, solder can be trapped in those. 511 00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:27,010 And you can also consider if you're preignant individuals 512 00:37:27,010 --> 00:37:29,350 or have young children in your home, 513 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:34,450 an NSF, AMSI standard 53 specifically 514 00:37:34,450 --> 00:37:44,370 led removal filter and then just one other thing led is led in solder and brass 515 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:49,630 fixtures and homes built before 1986 have the highest potential and then the 516 00:37:49,630 --> 00:37:54,970 homes from 1983 to 1986 have the highest potential of those homes to have 517 00:37:54,970 --> 00:38:04,620 led and water and that's because in 1982 the government decided that led was 518 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:10,500 band and in 1986 it was going to be officially banned and everybody was starting to use 519 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:13,780 trying to get rid of the lead before that date got to that all. 520 00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:23,140 Are there any questions? 521 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:28,760 Does a reverse osmosis system that you reckon in that as well? 522 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,240 No, that isn't... 523 00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:37,070 That is one of the purest filter forms you mean it. 524 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:38,230 Yeah, so we were told. 525 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:53,030 I called in the other day and we have an article or a thing on page two about this to do it again. 526 00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:56,270 Thank you. Thank you, Pam. Thank you, Professor. 527 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,110 Thank you. Okay. 528 00:38:58,330 --> 00:39:06,330 Colleagues themselves reverse osmosis systems. Anybody, you know, because it does remove all of that very drinking water. 529 00:39:06,330 --> 00:39:07,350 I 530 00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:22,490 see that we have a number of people here tonight, if you were here to talk about 835 Main Street, 531 00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:29,250 please be aware that at this current time, myself, the President of the Board of Zoning Appeals, 532 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:35,510 and the President of the Blank Commission have met and are going through all of the paperwork, 533 00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:39,290 going back over three years. 534 00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:47,170 We're looking into reviewing minutes, looking at records, listening, and watching zoom 535 00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:51,350 and audio transmittals, live rebroadcast. 536 00:39:52,270 --> 00:39:57,150 We've looked at USPS records and building code requirements among other things. 537 00:39:57,890 --> 00:40:03,110 We're in the process right now individually going through all of that paperwork and matter. 538 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:11,030 We will then get back together again to discuss and at that period of time we will establish 539 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:17,670 our findings and come out at a private or public meeting and talk about what we have found. 540 00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:24,250 So to bring about it and talk about it tonight I think would not be worth the time because 541 00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:31,370 there's only one of me here and trust me we have a lot of paperwork and a lot of things 542 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:38,830 the look at right now. Okay, can I ask one question? Yeah. Okay. Introduce yourself, please. 543 00:40:39,150 --> 00:40:39,270 I would. 544 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:48,500 I guess you can go me the elephant room, literally and figuratively. I'm 10 at her to 30 545 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:54,700 Maryland. And I opened up a meeting last time here with a prayer, but I just want to make one statement. 546 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:03,920 That's what we've all been taught is the love that I made. Row neighbors in this room. 547 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,400 So that's what I 548 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:15,220 what we're trying to, you know, work together for your neighbors. 549 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,100 We're not trying to cause any stress on that. 550 00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:25,780 But with what's out there, questions need to be asked. 551 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,000 And I guess, again, I'm not going to inundate you with questions. 552 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:32,020 But if you're going through a review right now, 553 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:38,740 is the work continuing at 8.35 during this review? 554 00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:48,580 yes it is. Can I ask why? Because there is a five variepses that were put out by the 555 00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:53,680 BZA that needed to be met before it started. 556 00:41:55,940 --> 00:41:59,800 According to my legal consultant, work can 557 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:06,220 continue. It has to do with what's what's ready when it's ready to be sold or to be rounded 558 00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:14,000 out. Can you point to that sentence in the minutes? We would like that. No, it's not in the minutes 559 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,620 because it's been part of the meetings that I've been having. Then therefore it should be in the 560 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:23,280 minutes if these are in the meetings you've been having. I don't think you know, you're done, you're not 561 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,400 done with your filing. We're not done with the findings, are we? Then shouldn't, again, what happens 562 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,520 that the findings come back that, well, again, these five variances should be followed. 563 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:44,180 Their continuing construction, if these five variances, which the BZA approved, and state 564 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:48,540 that they needed to happen before the construction doesn't say that. 565 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,640 But it doesn't say it can continue. 566 00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:54,040 That's where you know with your legal consultants, sir. 567 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,040 Well, again, we don't have, or you don't have confidence in it. 568 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,600 Sir, correct me. 569 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,320 Sir. 570 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,020 If I'm wrong. 571 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,580 If I have an on tape, would you set that? 572 00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:05,920 That's fine. 573 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,200 That's fine. 574 00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:09,860 I also have things on tape. 575 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:11,320 What you said, sir. 576 00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:14,420 Oh, you take me without me knowing about it? 577 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,480 Yes, in the end. 578 00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:16,360 Against the law. 579 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,220 No, it is not. 580 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,340 Indiana is a one-party state, sir. 581 00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:22,640 Only one party needs to be agreed to that. 582 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:32,640 I think at this point, they 35 may continue to work, they discount rent and tell us until it's ready to be occupied. 583 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:35,220 I will make one more statement. 584 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:45,240 It's a shame that the citizens of this town may need to require to get an attorney to sue the town to do their job. 585 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:46,240 Thank you. 586 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:56,770 Yeah, and I want to say two name name say today. That's important. I've never caused a stink on anything in my entire life 587 00:43:56,770 --> 00:43:59,970 I promise that's not my intent here. I 588 00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:05,030 Just got knowledge of this like three weeks ago about the full thing 589 00:44:06,330 --> 00:44:10,330 There were four out of the six properties who were supposed to receive 590 00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:11,570 Notification 591 00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:16,570 Tim did you receive notification for either property that you want? 592 00:44:18,210 --> 00:44:28,190 4 out of 6 people did not receive. We would have been at those hearings in 2023. I am very concerned about the parking, very concerned. 593 00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:40,570 I don't know how this has gotten so far. And then when I hear about the VGA conditions and I see it, I just don't want to be someone who's going, 594 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:47,570 We probably wouldn't have built a garage on our house when we did, had we known this was 595 00:44:47,570 --> 00:44:48,770 going to be across the street. 596 00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:54,950 Now I'm like, oh my gosh, I mean, I don't know what to expect out of that building because 597 00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:59,770 the best case scenario, there are five people living there with five cars. 598 00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:08,370 There could be five, there could be five people in each apartment, which is 25 people with 25 cars. 599 00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:19,910 There are not, and everybody can, but this is worse than you have to look at that. And there's only four parking spaces that make sense on the site. 600 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:22,150 I don't appreciate that. 601 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:28,670 Honestly, Ken stated they are doing their work on it because of the demands and the way 602 00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:29,510 that they've been made. 603 00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:33,310 We're trying to make sure that we've got every eye across every team before we respond 604 00:45:33,310 --> 00:45:36,850 in a way that we're looking out for the citizens that we are and the neighbors. 605 00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:38,670 We've always looked out for the citizens. 606 00:45:39,110 --> 00:45:40,970 I don't feel like you're looking out for me. 607 00:45:41,390 --> 00:45:41,590 I don't. 608 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:45,750 When you've got to give us time, Betsy, we're still doing the research on that. 609 00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:50,550 to work whenever we don't even know if that are they working by working? 610 00:45:51,310 --> 00:45:51,490 Yes. 611 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:52,050 Yes. 612 00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:53,050 It's our business. 613 00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:58,330 It's bad news to allow them to work on something when we don't even know whether 614 00:45:58,330 --> 00:45:59,010 they should be. 615 00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:05,730 Because what if we find out that those five conditions actually did need to be addressed? 616 00:46:06,210 --> 00:46:12,030 And then when they're done with the project, oh, well, okay, now it's too late. 617 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:36,850 And now if we if we're pushed and I'm just speaking my mind I mean that would have a town council meeting that's right, but we also need to hear what we're saying and I do hear it. Okay, but I also don't think it's why is when when you're reviewing and going through an audit for the work to continue because you get further into if something has to be done from a legal perspective. 618 00:46:36,850 --> 00:46:40,590 if there are so much further into the project, 619 00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:45,170 it's gonna cost a lot more if they have to be shut down. 620 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:47,230 So that's where I'm getting with this. 621 00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:49,550 And I know you all are like confused on, 622 00:46:49,590 --> 00:46:50,590 oh, there will be shut down. 623 00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:54,070 But if they didn't follow and they should have, 624 00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:56,450 that's where in my mind this ends. 625 00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:59,450 And I am a concern citizen, I'm a neighbor. 626 00:46:59,890 --> 00:47:02,210 And if this happened across the street 627 00:47:02,210 --> 00:47:05,250 and you were not made aware of it, you would say this, 628 00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:07,130 and I know you're sitting here, you're looking up, 629 00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:10,430 yeah, you've got a sign completion of mailing 630 00:47:10,930 --> 00:47:14,130 and four of us didn't receive it, four property owners. 631 00:47:15,110 --> 00:47:18,250 So, and I know you're, so that doesn't matter. 632 00:47:18,370 --> 00:47:19,910 I know, I know you don't remember kidding, 633 00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:20,630 if that's fine. 634 00:47:21,250 --> 00:47:25,330 I mean, let's just, again, we're gonna discuss this 635 00:47:25,330 --> 00:47:27,970 whenever everything gets put together 636 00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:29,290 and then we'll have it this time. 637 00:47:29,770 --> 00:47:31,210 But again, stop hearing you. 638 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:34,090 The stuff work probably needs to happen 639 00:47:34,090 --> 00:47:36,410 but until it's determined, right? 640 00:47:38,530 --> 00:47:41,070 And I know, I don't know why everybody's looking at me 641 00:47:41,070 --> 00:47:42,570 like I'm crazy to say that. 642 00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:43,990 I don't know. 643 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:46,590 Can I just say one thing and you're done. 644 00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:47,270 I have one. 645 00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:51,590 This is the last comment. 646 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:55,370 Well, Christie Holdenman and we have the neighboring business. 647 00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:57,150 And you're saying that them working 648 00:47:57,150 --> 00:47:58,630 does not have an effect on anyone. 649 00:47:59,170 --> 00:48:01,650 They're blocking our drive, they're on our property. 650 00:48:02,190 --> 00:48:03,610 We have customers coming to our building 651 00:48:03,610 --> 00:48:08,190 to pick up and they're on Main Street going I can't turn in so because they don't have 652 00:48:08,190 --> 00:48:13,090 that driveway they're supposed to have for one for their use and they put that big dumpster 653 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:17,670 there so they can't use their area anyway so it is affecting us now but we're not even 654 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:22,450 sure it's legally going to be able to go through and we're already being affected and I just 655 00:48:22,450 --> 00:48:28,090 want everyone to know I can tell how responsible Pops going to be if in the construction it's 656 00:48:28,090 --> 00:48:33,510 affecting my business I just I'm just really concerned about it and I think that if they get 657 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:38,630 further and then they don't meet those five criteria like we're talking about 658 00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:42,770 are they going to sue us the town because we let them go on and it's been 659 00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:47,270 million and now they can't have their apartments no I mean it's a you can laugh or 660 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:52,450 chuckle but think about it think about it they're not gonna be very happy yeah 661 00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:57,670 they're not gonna be very happy if they can't rent those five apartments out and 662 00:48:57,670 --> 00:49:01,550 And they have to, they do have to meet those criteria, correct? 663 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:02,550 Okay. 664 00:49:04,580 --> 00:49:05,220 Can I, sir? 665 00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:06,200 You're done, sir. 666 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,840 Ken, can I say something? 667 00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:08,540 No, no. 668 00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:10,560 I said she was the last guy, man. 669 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,500 Well, I have something that may cost the town tens of thousands of dollars now. 670 00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:16,500 What? 671 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,320 May I approach the microphone? 672 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,080 Please, please. 673 00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:24,360 Just let us do that. 674 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,200 At least get on. 675 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,500 Call us out here. 676 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,440 May I approach? 677 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,560 I need to be on the agenda. 678 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,280 That's because we weren't prepared to discuss it until all the findings. 679 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,280 But this only is for Mr. Sieger. 680 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,400 Indiana is a one-party consent state. 681 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,420 If you were in the conversation courted, it is not a crime. 682 00:49:53,500 --> 00:50:03,080 Indiana Code 35-31.5-2.176. Intercepting means recording of a communication by a person 683 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,460 other than a sender or receiver without the send of the sender or receiver. 684 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,580 If you are one of the people talking, you are a sender or receiver. The statute does not treat that as an interception. 685 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:26,460 In the end of code, 35-33-5-5-5 is a level five felony to knowingly intercept communications 686 00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:30,620 and violations of that article, which you just accused me of, sir. 687 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,220 You said in a public recording meeting, I committed a crime. 688 00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:42,030 No, thank you. 689 00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:44,270 My retirement set now, sir. 690 00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:48,430 I think we should leave. 691 00:50:49,770 --> 00:50:51,210 We know what our next step is. 692 00:50:55,590 --> 00:50:57,530 I just want to say it's going to take 693 00:50:57,530 --> 00:50:58,850 fast. It'll be fast. 694 00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:11,300 I just want to address the issue that 695 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:13,880 can be made on a B-Zero board. 696 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,060 If they're doing their own investigation, 697 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,880 I think that that's a good goal. 698 00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:22,900 If they're going back three years and 699 00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:25,040 checking on everything that was said and 700 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,980 done, maybe something was missed. 701 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:35,320 and if they're going all out to tickle that out, let them do their investigation, okay? 702 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,360 And the end is also right to work state. 703 00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:43,800 The only way you can stop somebody from working is going to legal matters, okay? 704 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,520 But you can't just shut somebody down. 705 00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:51,560 I've done my investigation of that also, okay? 706 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:51,640 All right. 707 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,320 Thank you. 708 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,720 Can I say a one-back? 709 00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:05,320 Probably only a property. 710 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,020 What is it? 711 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:19,180 When I'm sitting there all the way and we all post office and the building that the machine 712 00:52:19,180 --> 00:52:20,040 shop is in. 713 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:28,120 So all the parking between those two is ours, and it is legally leads to the Postal Service 714 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,660 and legally leads to the Sheen Shop. 715 00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:37,860 We have sent a legal letter from our attorney to pop and told him that if they park in 716 00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:39,880 our parking lot, they will be towed. 717 00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:47,500 There's multiple reasons, one, the Postal Service, I think three years ago, when we were going 718 00:52:49,020 --> 00:52:53,920 We were working with LA from Denver, now we're working with LA from Washington, D.C. 719 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:04,500 They had expressed some interest in maybe adding on, maybe closing some other small post offices in the area, 720 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,880 and approached us about that project, and I said we would do that. 721 00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:11,880 But then at the end, they said, we're going to table that. 722 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:19,200 So, it may be another two years to read, I guess, entertain that. 723 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,640 So, if that would happen, I would lose some more parking. 724 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,840 It would probably be right on, I would assume, 725 00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:33,280 I mean, we'd have the engineer do it, but probably being more main street focused. 726 00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,840 And then, as the machine shop keeps growing, 727 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:45,040 And what I think he's getting bigger, they have also asked in the past about add-on, I've kind of pushed that to the side because 728 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,700 this was age of time, without they've sold it. 729 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:54,280 We have somebody young and pretty ambitious in their hope. 730 00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,660 And that could still come up. 731 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,500 So I'm going to eat up some more space. 732 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:06,960 So I'm kind of worried that if both buildings add on, I'm sure you can have that lot. 733 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,500 And if I start having other people parked in there, 734 00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:13,400 it's going to be a major issue on parking. 735 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,780 Because as far as putting it, it's dropped out in the hitspeed. 736 00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:17,740 And it takes up space. 737 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,320 And I guess it's a real concern for me, 738 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,740 because I don't want to have to buy another property 739 00:54:24,740 --> 00:54:25,660 just in the park. 740 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,920 So that's why the English concerns. 741 00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:37,550 To a lot of attorney, we don't want to be a good neighbor, 742 00:54:37,550 --> 00:54:45,210 but I can't have broken the law fair enough so it comes from a fall and there's no work put it then 743 00:54:45,830 --> 00:54:49,990 You know, it's gonna end up probably somewhere where nobody wants it and then I'll be getting calls because 744 00:54:50,730 --> 00:54:52,530 Somebody's getting told you somewhere else 745 00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:56,070 All right 746 00:55:10,070 --> 00:55:13,030 Okay, are there any special claims? 747 00:55:14,590 --> 00:55:18,590 I need motion to pay regular claims. 748 00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:20,370 I'll take it. 749 00:55:20,570 --> 00:55:21,730 Motion has been made in second. 750 00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:22,350 All in favor. 751 00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:23,310 Signify the same. 752 00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:24,190 I understand. 753 00:55:25,310 --> 00:55:29,290 Under announcements, the Development Commission will be Tuesday. 754 00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:31,790 October the 20th at 5 o'clock p.m. 755 00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:42,390 The next meeting will be October 20th at 6.30 p.m., Board of Zoning Appeals meeting is canceled for September 23rd. 756 00:55:43,230 --> 00:55:47,650 Plan commission will meet at 7 o'clock p.m. on September 23rd. 757 00:55:48,350 --> 00:55:57,850 Park Board meets October 14th at 4.30 p.m., and Economic Development Commission meets Monday, October 26th at 6 o'clock p.m. 758 00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:02,650 With that, I need a motion to adjourn our meeting. 759 00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:04,610 I'll make that motion. 760 00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:06,770 I will second the motion and may second it. 761 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:07,990 All the favor, single promises.