1 00:00:02,350 --> 00:00:17,850 You're going to call meeting to order at 5.33 p.m., present, then false, glory, agenda. David Utiger, citizen Utiger, 2 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:28,190 Howdy Hughes and Michael Hughes. Any relation between you two? A little bit, okay. 3 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:34,450 Fifty-second anniversary. Wow. Wow. We're going to put that in public comment. 4 00:00:35,690 --> 00:00:40,550 Make a note of that, huh? First, Laurie, can we review and approve the meeting? 5 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:49,510 I would like to review an approved minister 9-2. 6 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:50,630 No second that. 7 00:00:51,070 --> 00:00:52,230 Are those in favor? 8 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:52,890 Five. 9 00:00:56,550 --> 00:00:57,870 Okay, then we... 10 00:00:57,870 --> 00:00:58,450 Any 11 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,780 request from you? 12 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:04,680 Nope. 13 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,060 Any public comment? 14 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:14,160 Public comment. 15 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,120 None. 16 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Seeing none. 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,460 Okay. 18 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Continuing business. 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,040 Main street and town of Peru. 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,760 traffic calming discussion. 21 00:01:52,790 --> 00:01:56,730 Doing the left turn of the green and slicing off a part of the green and the whole 22 00:01:56,730 --> 00:02:00,530 thing with a little bar needs to dry my stuff. I'm not like totally on a percent of 23 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:08,570 positive but it's just such a it's just such a miniscule min-minimal solution to 24 00:02:08,570 --> 00:02:13,010 the problem. It's maybe you'll take care of 200 feet in the village. I think that 25 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:18,270 the counties that he's got back here and do a study that goes from root to 26 00:02:18,270 --> 00:02:22,650 liver to the fire station. I see how they can call the driver on that 27 00:02:22,650 --> 00:02:25,890 scratch road because that's the scratch road that everyone's really concerned about. 28 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:32,050 It doesn't help the hues of me or anyone living on up in Monroe to make do that 29 00:02:32,050 --> 00:02:36,310 left turn in the village. But I don't want to sound like I'm here just from my 30 00:02:36,310 --> 00:02:40,090 I don't solve this interest because I think I don't know what I'm going to do. 31 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:47,200 Like I said, all the way from rural letters to the forest station, 32 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:51,470 all the way from past potters. 33 00:02:52,310 --> 00:02:53,530 I'm here speaking for potter. 34 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:54,490 Even a river. 35 00:02:55,230 --> 00:02:57,890 Back in the sand. 36 00:02:58,450 --> 00:02:59,730 I want to be with what you're saying, 37 00:02:59,870 --> 00:03:02,750 without even having heard from you before. 38 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:05,030 I mean, look at my son, I don't know. 39 00:03:05,530 --> 00:03:07,250 And Patty will talk about it quickly. 40 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:17,210 You know, even if the speed signs were changed, say, at the fire, my suggest just look 41 00:03:17,210 --> 00:03:17,770 as night time. 42 00:03:18,110 --> 00:03:23,550 Well, maybe, you know, people see the sign that says 40 gone with 30 at David's. 43 00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:30,470 Maybe they should start 30 at, you know, just if people see it, will they do it? 44 00:03:30,770 --> 00:03:31,650 Yeah, perhaps. 45 00:03:31,650 --> 00:03:35,890 But it at least says, OK, it's not 40 anymore. 46 00:03:38,350 --> 00:03:39,510 It's grown up in Vermont. 47 00:03:39,850 --> 00:03:40,870 And I got nervous lessons. 48 00:03:41,070 --> 00:03:42,590 It was kind of a no-thing to grip. 49 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:45,610 All dirt roads are 35. 50 00:03:46,570 --> 00:03:48,330 And this 40 thing is crept up. 51 00:03:48,950 --> 00:03:50,890 I know they're not dirt anymore. 52 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:53,330 But they're the same roads that work, right? 53 00:03:55,530 --> 00:03:58,170 And the same people are still walking back then 54 00:03:58,170 --> 00:03:58,970 as they are now. 55 00:04:00,450 --> 00:04:01,990 So yeah, I agree with David. 56 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:12,470 I mean, it really should start more than the 200 feet in town, because, you know, you 57 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:12,790 see. 58 00:04:13,390 --> 00:04:13,610 Yeah. 59 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,960 I mean, we're not qualified to, you know, we can make suggestions until we turn you 60 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,240 over. 61 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,820 These guys are the experts. 62 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:31,800 They can love maybe narrow the road, maybe put some, we can talk on and on about some 63 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,420 certain kind of violence and just something. Let's see what they actually said. I mean, maybe they're really 64 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:42,360 just, I mean, you're not going to change your nature to people, certain people are going to drive, 65 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:50,880 like they drive that out, or they're not going to be able to stop it. At least if you can get a percentage of the people to slow down. 66 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:59,240 Yeah, I'm not sure where the speed bumps went and why they're not being used because I felt like they really made a difference. 67 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,920 I don't know why we never put them up this year. I think there was some discussion that 68 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,040 they've been flattened, but they still exist in some way, shape or form. 69 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,160 I don't know why we didn't put the flat ones out because even the flat ones are more 70 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:38,000 I don't know that anyone ever complained about them. I know it was said at some point in time that they 71 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:44,920 were flatter than they started their life, but I feel like they still had some help. 72 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:52,800 a way I was taking down the winter to plow, but yeah, so I think guys what what we said before 73 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,840 and I want to reiterate again like we've had some concerned people come in. This is not something 74 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:07,020 that I think the select board is going to do by ourselves. We want to see a group of citizens get 75 00:06:07,020 --> 00:06:14,700 together brainstorm you know call it a committee right a committee of citizens come together with some 76 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:21,400 sort of consensus recommendation, the select board can approve the expenditure to engage 77 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,700 that engineering firm again. And I feel like we had a really nice big meeting with lots 78 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:31,120 of people over here, where we do feel like we have some experts on our side who have put 79 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:38,920 some time into the initial preliminary analysis. As a select board, I think I can speak for 80 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,980 to say that we're happy to devote some funds toward that. 81 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:46,880 And we'd love to see that directive sort of spearheaded 82 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:54,480 by the three of you and Heather and Heather and kind 83 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,040 of some directive in terms of let's talk to the people. 84 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,100 And I appreciate your holistic approach, right? 85 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:05,260 Because I think that's where it's like we see this as a, 86 00:07:10,190 --> 00:07:14,430 I see this as a, I've heard lots of people come in here and talk about their issues. 87 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:19,210 And David, it's okay to be selfish and want your issue solved. 88 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:20,610 No one's going to come in. 89 00:07:21,090 --> 00:07:22,170 That's just human nature, right? 90 00:07:22,510 --> 00:07:23,470 You want your issue solved. 91 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:24,590 You want your issue solved. 92 00:07:24,690 --> 00:07:25,830 Heather wants her issue solved. 93 00:07:26,290 --> 00:07:27,930 You know, the boo bars want their issue solved. 94 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:31,470 We've heard from all these people, like let's get some of those people together. 95 00:07:31,990 --> 00:07:38,450 Let's pay the outfit to do a holistic sort of, here are these suggestions. 96 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:41,910 you know, and then we can look into how much does that cost? 97 00:07:42,330 --> 00:07:44,930 What kind of money do we as a town have to put toward it? 98 00:07:45,330 --> 00:07:47,530 What potential grants are there available? 99 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:52,830 Study in the map. 100 00:07:54,430 --> 00:07:56,270 As far as I know, and you can interrupt me, 101 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:58,670 but as far as I know, the only study that was done 102 00:07:58,670 --> 00:08:04,310 was a possible redoing of that term there, by the direction. 103 00:08:05,530 --> 00:08:08,990 So they did, so we had, there's issues here, 104 00:08:08,990 --> 00:08:13,050 there's issue, and I think I'm assuming when you brought up Boobar, it was probably an 105 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:20,430 issue on Lubbers Lane. There's lots of issues. Yeah. And all they talked about was the point 106 00:08:20,430 --> 00:08:25,850 of the green and cutting that out and changing the direction of it. And then Heather has all, 107 00:08:25,930 --> 00:08:30,270 and I don't think the study did this, but Heather also brought up the fact of not having 108 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:37,670 two entrances into North America, by the fire station. But that doesn't solve this problem. 109 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:50,300 And I think to be candid, you know, there was, you know, the town spent some money, we got a report done by that firm. 110 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:52,360 It was one idea. 111 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:02,180 I think it was generally met with a lukewarm or varied reception. Some people liked it, some people didn't. 112 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:07,620 Some people thought, like David just said, well, it's going to maybe solve a problem for a few feet here. 113 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:19,580 But I think that's what it's really lacking is, let's look at our issues and let's put together a plan that could potentially address as many of them as possible. 114 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:27,920 And then, you know, is that the town has the resources to tackle a few of them? 115 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:36,680 We could tackle a few of them right away where we have to apply for some grants or we have to, you know, one of the things that I thought was interesting that they said, 116 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:43,380 which you know as roads get wider people drive faster. So one of the things that we as a town 117 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:48,280 have probably not been cognizant of over the past years and years is allowing these roads when 118 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,000 they get repaid to get a little bit wider and get a little bit wider and get a little bit wider. 119 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:59,420 You know that's something that needs to be top of mind as we you know do some of this work like 120 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:04,500 no the narrower the road the closer the trees are to the side just people 121 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:12,840 That's leading into human nature, right? That's the idea of like you're not going to change 122 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:20,320 human nature, but if human nature is drive slower on narrower roads that have trees closer 123 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,860 to them. 124 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,360 I mean, it would be nice if it could resolve it and not have to aesthetically change the 125 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,800 whole traffic matter of the town. 126 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:40,920 I know I can't admit. Another thing is the construction traffic. There was a lot of construction traffic. I don't know about this summer was a particular busy summer, but there were lots of big trucks. 127 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:48,940 dump trucks pulling trailers with graveyards on them and they never could get around, could 128 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,840 get some village as there's a turn there. 129 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,600 They can, I've seen them, they're huge and there's a lot of them, so that's a consideration 130 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,260 of how to take them in line. 131 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:04,820 People drive really, really fast, not coming into the village, past our houses. 132 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:06,800 It's crazy. 133 00:11:08,020 --> 00:11:09,880 It's not people that don't know where they're going. 134 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,380 Well, it's not people that don't know those people, it's just that. 135 00:11:14,260 --> 00:11:21,760 Well, I think what we're waiting for is for a group of people to, and Heather, 136 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:27,600 I thought when she left here was ready to work on that. 137 00:11:28,260 --> 00:11:35,520 Yeah, I guess from my standpoint, like, you know, like, you're free to form a committee. 138 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,040 We love to see a committee formed. I'd love to be a part of that. 139 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,260 that, you know, or we may be, we may be a part of that, but let's get some info from 140 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:49,920 those folks and let's get kind of a, you know, what we want to take to the engineering 141 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:56,360 firm would be, here's, you know, here's kind of our, our list of our issues, yeah, and 142 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,560 say we want you to take a look at Lovers Lane, because we know that's a problem, it's a major 143 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:04,420 cut through, it's not just Benem who came in, their neighbors came in, and we all know that 144 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:05,340 that can be an issue. 145 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:07,820 And let's take a look at this whole corridor. 146 00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:14,320 And we know potters and you know, like let's give them 147 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,660 that directive that we really need to look at all of that. 148 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,420 Well, why don't you put it on the agenda 149 00:12:22,420 --> 00:12:28,500 for the next record meeting that citizens are invited to come 150 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:35,100 I'm in the meeting in the form of committee to deal and we need to deal with the traffic. 151 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,840 I mean, I'd like to see. 152 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:45,840 And then maybe have the study done, and then you can have public automated form of committee then. 153 00:12:48,540 --> 00:12:50,460 I don't know how to go about through it. 154 00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:58,780 I have to be more than that, letters sent out to all attacks there, setting up on the 155 00:12:58,780 --> 00:12:58,900 evening. 156 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:00,660 Yeah, I don't think so. 157 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,200 I think at this juncture we just need a couple of people to get together. 158 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,420 It's not for the post-popism. 159 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:10,660 I mean, to be great, you know, myself, I've never really looked at your gender every week. 160 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,680 I think if you, like literally if you guys would talk to a few people and you come in next meeting with a bullet point list, 161 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:24,360 that's kind of working toward what we need to engage with them, you know. Where did you leave it? 162 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:33,030 It wouldn't be. So they they were paid for that study. So I think this is true. I'm telling you what 163 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:38,010 I think I know. They were paid for that study at least a couple of years ago. Sometime after COVID and 164 00:13:38,010 --> 00:13:45,010 before I got on the selected. Yeah. So they were paid in full for that report that they put together. 165 00:13:45,010 --> 00:13:51,030 Andy asked them to come back. They put together a 30-45-minute presentation where they talked 166 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:57,750 about some of their experiences calming in other towns and other cities, towns. And they 167 00:13:57,750 --> 00:14:03,810 also talked very briefly about that plan that they put together. And it got a lot of really 168 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:11,510 good ideas spurred. There were 30 people in the room. Yeah, I mean 30. 169 00:14:17,950 --> 00:14:18,690 Critical 170 00:14:18,690 --> 00:14:37,410 mass. Yeah, it was right before the July or August. It was right before the July or August 171 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:45,930 agenda for next. Does somebody take attendance? Is that meeting by the chance? Do we know who is there? I don't know about an active name. 172 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:57,430 20. Plus. I'm actually curious how Lucas was there. And how did those people know that we were having that? 173 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:58,770 So, what are the people? 174 00:15:04,330 --> 00:15:12,210 I think we just posted notice. We said, you know, hey, five or whatever. 20 people showed up for that meeting. That was on a posting, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 175 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:24,460 Three tonight. Let me put something together of that sort that, like, we want to, like, let's not lose them. I think we really got a roll text. 176 00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:37,070 It would be the first Wednesday of the month. 177 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:46,830 It could be as simple as if we got some people there. 178 00:15:47,450 --> 00:15:49,210 We'll adjourn our Slack board meeting. 179 00:15:49,770 --> 00:15:53,090 We can also hear and talk for a few minutes about some ideas 180 00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:56,810 and just kind of start to formulate that. 181 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:59,990 Maybe it's okay, I'm gonna call the boo bars 182 00:15:59,990 --> 00:16:00,990 and get their concerns 183 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:03,050 and then they're gonna outline her concerns 184 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:05,410 and Potter can, you know, 185 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:06,810 outline his concerns. 186 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:07,930 It'll be eight pages long. 187 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:09,730 And, you know, yeah, 188 00:16:14,830 --> 00:16:15,690 I will say again, 189 00:16:15,810 --> 00:16:20,010 like, I felt like that group that did that study, 190 00:16:20,590 --> 00:16:21,690 they have some knowledge. 191 00:16:21,970 --> 00:16:24,090 Could we have that study out that night? 192 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:28,570 not to go back to that, but then just to start conversation. 193 00:16:28,810 --> 00:16:31,030 Yeah, did Andy send that to you? 194 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:31,290 No. 195 00:16:33,570 --> 00:16:35,430 I'm going to send you a little bit of a blueprint. 196 00:16:35,850 --> 00:16:37,650 Once upon a time, there was a... 197 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:40,470 I remember seeing a blueprint on it. 198 00:16:40,690 --> 00:16:41,530 And I was going to die. 199 00:16:42,190 --> 00:16:43,150 But that was... 200 00:16:43,150 --> 00:16:45,390 The mudders were all mudders too, but... 201 00:16:45,390 --> 00:16:45,590 Yeah. 202 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:46,410 Did it? 203 00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:48,670 But he told you then that when I came in, 204 00:16:48,730 --> 00:16:50,050 he said he'd send it to me. 205 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:51,210 Yeah, because we... 206 00:17:24,250 --> 00:17:31,730 So this is, yeah, this was the one that they, and this was dated 20, 23, so there you go, 207 00:17:31,870 --> 00:17:32,550 three years ago. 208 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:34,890 That's it, that's it. 209 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:44,760 But, you know, MSK engineers and the other person that's from the 210 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,860 calming authority or something? 211 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,960 I don't know. 212 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,020 Yeah, so there were two people with the event. One of them was one of the engineers. 213 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:01,460 And one of them was some state or county whose specialty is in traffic calming. 214 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:07,660 And he had a couple of slides that he presented about a project in Bennington. 215 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:31,820 And I believe, and I don't want to speak out of the term, but I think the gentleman who 216 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:38,780 is on the staff at home and community or whatever, he's also a bit of a gateway toward 217 00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:41,260 some potential funding as well. 218 00:18:41,860 --> 00:18:46,860 So basically, if we engage him and get his help and it's kind of approved by them, he'd be 219 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:55,280 in better chances of obtaining some funding or help toward that project. 220 00:18:55,700 --> 00:19:00,460 If we just call the state up and say, hey, we want to do this, we're going to say, okay, 221 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,000 well, ask your taxpayers. 222 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:11,120 And I feel like, I know he mentioned right, that project got a fair bit of state funding. 223 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,960 The town had their, Bennington had to kick in a couple bucks, 224 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,220 but then they got a grant towards. 225 00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:20,380 Do you have any idea how much the speed comes across $1 226 00:19:22,690 --> 00:19:23,450 ,000? 227 00:19:24,190 --> 00:19:26,170 I don't think that's a rubber, you know? 228 00:19:27,150 --> 00:19:27,410 I know. 229 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:28,790 First they're tired, I don't know. 230 00:19:28,810 --> 00:19:29,630 Christopher Trolley? 231 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,560 You know, over just over the years, I was going to talk about, 232 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:41,380 do we put a couple of those flashing speed signs, 233 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,120 or do you bring something like that in? 234 00:19:43,460 --> 00:19:45,800 And you know, there's lots of stuff we can do. 235 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:55,580 And frankly, I feel like no action has been taken because it ends up being just one person's opinion. 236 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:59,220 Why'd I like to see this? Well, I don't think this will work. Okay, well now we're not going to do that. 237 00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:08,120 And I think that's what an engineering firm and someone who is on their job is literally to study traffic calming. 238 00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:22,390 Maybe not just this section of the village, but take it from Greenland to half the pond. 239 00:20:22,750 --> 00:20:22,810 Right. 240 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:26,150 I mean, because that's a size of a big truck. 241 00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:26,710 Yeah. 242 00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:28,050 That's all the time. 243 00:20:28,910 --> 00:20:29,770 Or even in winter. 244 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:30,950 A lot of things. 245 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,160 That's how good. 246 00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:41,520 And we have someone has this gentleman's name of contact information. 247 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:42,120 Yes. 248 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:47,290 Conning guy. 249 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:47,670 Yes. 250 00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:48,330 Yeah. 251 00:20:49,630 --> 00:20:53,410 Andy had the most relation with him or the most communication with him. 252 00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:54,910 I once said they also did. 253 00:20:55,050 --> 00:21:00,170 Didn't they have some of those like traffic counters and whatever in place? 254 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:00,690 They did. 255 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:01,290 At the point. 256 00:21:02,030 --> 00:21:02,170 Yeah. 257 00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:02,250 Yeah. 258 00:21:03,010 --> 00:21:05,930 So again, are you saying that this particular representative 259 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:08,190 in this group would be at the October meeting? 260 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:10,330 No, I don't know. 261 00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:11,430 They're not going to need it, though. 262 00:21:12,690 --> 00:21:14,430 We would re-engage. 263 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:15,370 We are happy. 264 00:21:15,670 --> 00:21:18,390 We as a town will be happy to re-engage with them. 265 00:21:18,490 --> 00:21:19,190 If the committee. 266 00:21:19,670 --> 00:21:23,450 If the committee, we want a committee to give some consideration 267 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:27,330 and thoughts and have something to give to them and say, 268 00:21:27,470 --> 00:21:30,750 this is what we want you to consider and look at. 269 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:35,090 they could basically then give us a proposal and say I'm making this up you know 270 00:21:35,090 --> 00:21:42,810 it's 10 grand to do a study from there to there to there we'll present you a 271 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:47,210 drawing or two we'll present you a summary of recommendations and then we can 272 00:21:47,210 --> 00:21:52,010 make sure that makes sense and then we can approve it we as a select ward can 273 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:59,410 approve that expenditure that we're gonna give MSK X dollars and here's what 274 00:21:59,410 --> 00:22:03,930 they're going to present to us. And then we'll have something that, you know, that's really, 275 00:22:05,230 --> 00:22:09,890 in my opinion, that's the key to getting something done. They would return to us a deliverable 276 00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:18,750 that is done by an engineer, oversawed by a traffic calming specialist, a presentation of, 277 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:24,050 here's a suggestion, right? Here's, I mean, there's multiple options. One next, you know, 278 00:22:24,050 --> 00:22:25,790 This is small, medium, large. 279 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:26,270 Yeah. 280 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:27,990 Yeah. 281 00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:33,920 For a service, they must have some idea 282 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,760 what's the traffic is that happened for a seller. 283 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:37,260 Right. 284 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:38,660 I mean, good wild means. 285 00:22:38,820 --> 00:22:41,100 I'm sure they could tell you how many visits they have 286 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:42,620 in the winter. 287 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:43,940 No, they did have a counter-record. 288 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,100 Yeah, a counter. 289 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Yeah. 290 00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:47,500 I don't know. 291 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:48,840 It's, you know, so hard to remember. 292 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,020 Was that two years ago or eight years ago? 293 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,680 Yeah, exactly. 294 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,300 But they did have a counter-record. 295 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,480 You just stand out there one day and just keep stepping on it. 296 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,420 It's it on my porch. 297 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,680 All right, well good. 298 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Let's keep the ball rolling and try and... 299 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,420 Put a gate. 300 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,280 Try and get somewhere with that. 301 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,380 A gate, there you go. 302 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:15,180 Goes up and down. 303 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:16,560 One car goes through. 304 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,740 Right. 305 00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:26,010 How about a tunnel from Route 11 to Aptiphone? 306 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:28,930 Yeah, just by past a whole time. 307 00:23:29,790 --> 00:23:31,070 300 trillion dollars. 308 00:23:34,570 --> 00:23:38,370 We'll name it the University if you finance it. 309 00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:41,110 Actually, whatever you want, you finance it. 310 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:41,910 Okay. 311 00:23:42,150 --> 00:23:43,970 You could put the power line in your money, right? 312 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:45,090 There we go. 313 00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:54,890 I'll text some people and see if they come. 314 00:23:55,050 --> 00:23:58,030 Adrian sets us this long. 315 00:24:00,310 --> 00:24:01,550 She could come to the meeting. 316 00:24:02,370 --> 00:24:02,970 Who's this? 317 00:24:04,730 --> 00:24:05,210 Yeah. 318 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:09,130 They're registered until the meeting. 319 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:14,220 Yeah. 320 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,860 I mean, I think the people that have come to the meeting 321 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:23,900 I mean, potter and it's just a bar maybe, you know, put it on the agenda and say that this is your opportunity. 322 00:24:24,420 --> 00:24:25,580 Get Heather to come back. 323 00:24:27,460 --> 00:24:33,840 And would it come down to a post at 10 meeting for the, for this to proceed? 324 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:40,000 I don't understand where it goes, where, where the final will go ahead. 325 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,420 I mean, if there's a proposal that has to get approved. 326 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:51,270 I don't know that answer, but I, you know, there's, 327 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:53,090 It depends on the cost, right? 328 00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:57,390 So if we said today, let's go spend a couple of grand 329 00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:59,810 and put some signs up, we could approve that tonight. 330 00:25:00,350 --> 00:25:01,650 And you could buy some signs. 331 00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:05,750 I would think it would be prudent upon the select board 332 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:09,330 if this is a major expenditure to have some type of, you know. 333 00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:11,250 Feed that, like, yeah. 334 00:25:11,670 --> 00:25:14,830 Yeah, like we wouldn't just, you know. 335 00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:22,630 care and say something about, for her time as a trader, it was a certain amount of money 336 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:26,390 in the town, has to get alone and it has to be approved by a town meeting. 337 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:33,140 But that means I don't know if that's true, that's just... 338 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:36,960 I think we're a long way away from getting to spending a lot of money. 339 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Exactly. 340 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:44,320 I mean, I think, yeah, right now we're not even past the first step, so. 341 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,540 Yeah, but I think that's a reasonable goal, right? 342 00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:48,520 If town meaning is in the spring, right? 343 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,640 Do we have something back from then? 344 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:55,020 Do we have some ballpark numbers? 345 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,360 Do we have some, you know, like that's six months from now? 346 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,680 Plus, that's enough time that we could put that on a town 347 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,720 mean agenda, say there's the town elect to spend, 348 00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:10,580 I'm just making us up, you know, a hundred grand 349 00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:13,320 with the hopes of getting a $200,000 grant 350 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,880 to enact as much of this plan as we can. 351 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:24,360 You know, that would be a ultimate sort of action item on it. 352 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:33,890 Or, you know, it could be as simple as the project by Heather's house is, you know, 353 00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:36,250 20 grand because the road already exists. 354 00:26:36,270 --> 00:26:40,750 We're just closing off a road and it's a couple days worth of time with an excavator. 355 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:46,050 you know maybe that's done right away with our own funds or maybe we buy a couple 356 00:26:46,050 --> 00:26:48,330 humps and put them I don't know right 357 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,660 okay 358 00:26:59,350 --> 00:27:04,130 any other comments okay thank you 359 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,760 leaving us okay do 360 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:14,280 you want to take this we have extra copies of this if you want to put 361 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:20,100 in your okay sure okay great you 362 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:27,150 probably liked it better when you're you 363 00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:30,950 you're up a driveway and put on a door or the action is now. 364 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:31,690 Yeah. 365 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:34,390 No, I love where we are. 366 00:27:34,570 --> 00:27:34,690 Yeah. 367 00:27:36,010 --> 00:27:39,470 You realize how many people walk on there. 368 00:27:39,690 --> 00:27:39,950 Oh, yeah. 369 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:46,490 If I look for my porch towards David's, I can't see, but the curves right there, and you see 370 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:48,670 people's friend one for the ditch, you know? 371 00:27:49,390 --> 00:27:54,830 That seems to be where, you know, they're not bad going by our porch, but then all of a sudden 372 00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:56,350 or be out of the way around. 373 00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:58,790 They come through there, like you, you know. 374 00:27:59,410 --> 00:28:00,470 And then the car's old. 375 00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:01,770 This is particularly bad. 376 00:28:02,290 --> 00:28:03,210 And this must be bad. 377 00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:09,090 So like I said, I mean, maybe my speed went through 378 00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:10,150 something out further. 379 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:16,490 Gates, arms, I don't see the floor, 380 00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:19,930 they have a series of them by toes that drop off 381 00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:22,750 which also give pedestrian walk there. 382 00:28:22,750 --> 00:28:24,670 They don't have to worry about planning. 383 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:26,250 Yeah. 384 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:29,130 But it's fair enough. 385 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:32,330 We're going to send a couple people that are doing them. 386 00:28:32,550 --> 00:28:35,350 I watch the license plates because I'm really concerned with the summer. 387 00:28:35,490 --> 00:28:36,870 Who exactly is doing this? 388 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:37,930 And it's way more. 389 00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:40,690 But I would say that there's no loss. 390 00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:41,510 Right. 391 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:43,490 They usually turn around and around since anyway. 392 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:43,850 So. 393 00:28:46,590 --> 00:28:47,550 Thank you. 394 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:48,910 Thanks guys. 395 00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:49,530 Thanks for coming. 396 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:50,710 Appreciate it. 397 00:28:53,660 --> 00:28:54,140 Thanks. 398 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:57,080 By the way, town network service is crowded by so many. 399 00:28:58,260 --> 00:28:59,340 I didn't see that 400 00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:03,070 in there. 401 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,300 Thought we reviewed it already. 402 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:46,340 Why is he calling?