1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:21,720 That's a member Wyatt. Here. That's a president Bridget. Here. For Mr. President. Alright, we 2 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,520 have our cadre of council members. We'll start with item number one. Item number one, cash 3 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:33,400 flow report, September 2018. Items open. Items open. I guess the cash flow report is prepared 4 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,080 by the controller's office. I'll let you start on the item. And then Mr. Estridge is here 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,640 to speak to the item. So we have representatives from the controller's office. Would you like 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,080 to identify yourself? Sure. This is Patrick Curry, executive assistant to the controller. 7 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:54,320 I'm joined by an investment debt officer, Greg Samanski. So this is the third cash 8 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:00,880 flow report we've done. We'll be doing these on a monthly basis in this fiscal year. And 9 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:09,720 this is for the information ending September 30th, 2018, covering the first three months 10 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:16,840 of the fiscal year. We added a new feature to this month's report. Right when it gets 11 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,200 to the time where we might have some cash flow difficulties, we broke that down instead 12 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,600 of monthly. We broke that down into weekly cash flow projections. So those are for the 13 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:34,560 month of November, December and January, where we see the biggest shortages and where, you 14 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:42,560 know, if need be we might have to do some short term borrowing. Basically, the areas 15 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,800 that were of concern previously are still of concern. Although we did, as a result 16 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:56,760 of last committee meeting, we did make an adjustment to the real estate line because of St. Paul 17 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Mall properties that have recently been slated to get sold. The city did get $350,000 from 18 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,600 those properties. It was in the previous fiscal year, so that wouldn't count in this cash 19 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,960 flow. But we did put $1 million in for the remaining properties. And then when 20 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,160 we find out what months will come in, we can put them in the correct month. But 21 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:25,160 we have them coming in before the end of the year. So that changes real estate, which is 22 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:32,440 budgeted at $8 million. So we're $7 million short of that at this point. We're also short 23 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,840 gifts and donations. The Tribal Compact is $17 million. And the Entertainment Ticket 24 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Search Act. So those are the areas that we haven't seen the revenue at all, but 25 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:51,120 there are a few areas where revenue is not tracking with the budget as far as keeping 26 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:58,040 pace with the monthly projections. The biggest area would probably be traffic violations. 27 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:05,040 They're coming up 100,000 or more short per month, which could lead to a shortfall 28 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,800 of about $2 million to $3 million by the end of the year. So that is one area of 29 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,600 concern. I think licenses and permits are also slightly down, not as bad as traffic 30 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,600 violation. But that's one other area of concern. So that's our cash flow report for 31 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,040 September. Now that October is over, we'll be filing one for the next month 32 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,040 shortly. 33 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,040 The following is the August report that's in the committee structure. Thank the 34 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,800 controllers office for the report. Commissioner Estridge, have you had time to look at the 35 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,800 report? 36 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,800 I did. And it was much different from the August report, almost $30 million different. 37 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,800 So it was to the good, which was a good thing. We have been reaching out to the 38 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:02,800 state to cover any deficit this month. So we have been ready to go to December, 39 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,640 now which means we don't need it. So we will continue our discussions with state 40 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,640 budgets. 41 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,640 And that's revolving around these casino funds? 42 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,640 That would be moving up some of our state aid, if necessary. 43 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Where are we at with the casino funds? I know Niagara Falls received some information 44 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,640 last month. And have we had any new information on the casino fund? 45 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,640 We don't have any new information. They assume, again, our information we receive 46 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,600 is going to be completed by the end of the calendar year. And the decision would be made 47 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,600 early next year when it will be paid. So we've become full of that. I do agree going 48 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:48,640 forward though the traffic violations is below budget. And we're working with police. 49 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,640 They just created a new traffic detail and bid that out. So that's going to be picking 50 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,640 up some help. 51 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:02,640 The $30 million to the good, where was that because of July 30th tax debt line or what 52 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:05,140 happened there with the $30 million? 53 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:07,140 The biggest impact was from the Board of Education. 54 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:10,140 Oh, Board of Education. Council President Pritchett. 55 00:05:10,140 --> 00:05:17,140 Thank you, Mr. Chair. The leadership of the council did meet with the mayor's 56 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:25,140 office with the administration as was prescribed in the Memorandum of Understanding. It's a step 57 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,640 in the right direction to be able to hear, of course, from our controller's office. 58 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:39,140 That's why city government is set up the way it is. And then to have conversation with 59 00:05:39,140 --> 00:05:45,140 the administration does put me in a bit more of a comfortable, not comfortable as if we 60 00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:51,140 don't have to watch, but comfortable that we are communicating. And I think that's the 61 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:58,140 first step to being fiscally responsible. The same things that were reported here for 62 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:04,140 the public to hear were the same things that were shared in that meeting. And so those 63 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:09,140 meetings will continue. So I do want to thank this committee for reminding us and both 64 00:06:09,140 --> 00:06:14,140 the administration and the controller because then that way in the middle we are able 65 00:06:14,140 --> 00:06:19,140 to see the finances and not only us but the public. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 66 00:06:19,140 --> 00:06:20,140 Thank you. 67 00:06:20,140 --> 00:06:21,140 Yes. 68 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:27,140 This was a funny thing. On the traffic enforcement, I think what's so important is that our 69 00:06:27,140 --> 00:06:32,140 police department, you know, I know that it's lying in the budget. However, what I 70 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:38,140 would not want to see is the police start to enforce traffic for revenue 71 00:06:38,140 --> 00:06:45,140 purposes. The reason for traffic enforcement is really about quality of life and for safety 72 00:06:45,140 --> 00:06:52,140 of our citizens. If everybody is, you know, maybe everybody's driving well in Buffalo 73 00:06:52,140 --> 00:06:58,140 right now and there's no need to give a ticket. But to be very honest, there are, there 74 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:03,140 is a need for that department to expand, you know, when we talk about neighborhoods 75 00:07:03,140 --> 00:07:08,140 and people blasting down streets, city streets, going through stop signs as 76 00:07:08,140 --> 00:07:14,140 Council Member is one of his pet peeves in his community and all of ours, blowing 77 00:07:14,140 --> 00:07:18,140 through stop signs the safety of our children on the way to school. That's 78 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:23,140 the reason, you know, I'd like to see that department expand it not necessarily 79 00:07:23,140 --> 00:07:26,140 for revenue generation. Thank you, sir. Mr. 80 00:07:26,140 --> 00:07:30,140 In agreement with Council President, that is one of the biggest complaints that 81 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:36,140 we have had is speeding through the city and that's the reason that this 82 00:07:36,140 --> 00:07:41,140 task force was created. We've started the speed bump and now we want to follow up 83 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:45,140 with the police office also. Yeah, when you're mining for gold, it's good to 84 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:48,140 know that there's gold in the well and there's plenty of gold there to be 85 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:53,140 digging for because you're right. You could park at St. Mary's and Felix 86 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:57,140 and they did one day and for a whole week they said they gave 300 tickets 87 00:07:57,140 --> 00:08:01,140 for people blowing the stop sign halfway down a residential block. Just blowing. 88 00:08:01,140 --> 00:08:05,140 They didn't, if you stopped and you showed, you know, good amount of effort 89 00:08:05,140 --> 00:08:08,140 and then you kind of went, no problem. They weren't trying to zip people. 90 00:08:08,140 --> 00:08:12,140 But those people that just blew through the ticket, that's fine, it's fine with me. 91 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:15,140 You know, some of, I always talk about some of the smaller towns that I have 92 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:18,140 to travel through and they are absolutely ridiculous but they're speeding 93 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:21,140 forward. They'll follow you for a mile to see if you screw up. 94 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:25,140 Oh, you didn't stop on the white line when you came to a full stop. 95 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:28,140 You know, it just gets to be ridiculous. You have to be like in Driver's Ed. 96 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:31,140 We're not looking to do that but I think there's plenty of gold out there 97 00:08:31,140 --> 00:08:35,140 to mine for when it comes to speeders going $50 daily, going through 98 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:38,140 stop signs on side streets. We even got bus drivers driving through 99 00:08:38,140 --> 00:08:41,140 stop signs on Brinkman Avenue right now. I feel one of them to get a ticket. 100 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:45,140 A bus driver, we ever on tape, whoever it is, multiple bus drivers 101 00:08:45,140 --> 00:08:49,140 driving through stop signs at Brinkman and Rowe. There's a guy there with cameras. 102 00:08:49,140 --> 00:08:52,140 He watches them every day and it's pretty sad and the news covers it. 103 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:55,140 It goes to first student. Still not fixed. They're still driving through. 104 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:58,140 They don't care. It's kind of a strange situation so we're hoping 105 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:01,140 that this could help improve safety throughout the city of Buffalo 106 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,140 and show those drivers. Now this might be a reduced revenue stream 107 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:08,140 in the future because maybe some of these people will happen to lose 108 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:11,140 their license when they get so many tickets or maybe they'll stop doing things wrong. 109 00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:14,140 So this might not be something we could count on as far as to spike those 110 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:17,140 but there seems to be plenty of people out there breaking the law 111 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:20,140 when it comes to traffic. 112 00:09:20,140 --> 00:09:23,140 Someone's got to buzz in first. Whoever buzzed in first gets it. 113 00:09:23,140 --> 00:09:26,140 Let's see who buzzed in first. Go ahead. 114 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:29,140 Mr. Wyatt, it was faster to the buzzer. Mr. Wyatt, do you have the floor? 115 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:32,140 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm glad that we've approached this 116 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:36,140 from a standpoint of quality of life. 117 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:41,140 I think that when I press the issue of red light cameras 118 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:45,140 some people thought it was a money grab and it certainly wasn't. 119 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:48,140 And if you look at the complaints or read the complaints 120 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:52,140 or hear the complaints from our residents, it really is about quality of life. 121 00:09:52,140 --> 00:09:56,140 As people speed up and down some of our side streets 122 00:09:56,140 --> 00:10:00,140 and some of our commercial thoroughfares, it's very dangerous. 123 00:10:00,140 --> 00:10:06,140 And even coming in here today, I saw a guy run through a stop sign 124 00:10:06,140 --> 00:10:10,140 then run through the red light and there was no enforcement. 125 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:13,140 So for us, like you said, there is gold there 126 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:18,140 but more importantly, there's some safety issues that every resident should have 127 00:10:18,140 --> 00:10:22,140 and I think that when we focus on that, it won't be a money grab 128 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:27,140 and I think that when we, because hopefully those revenues will increase 129 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:32,140 I did have some questions during the budget hearings about how we increase revenues 130 00:10:32,140 --> 00:10:36,140 but I certainly from my perspective was looking at it from a quality of life issue 131 00:10:36,140 --> 00:10:39,140 certainly not for us to line the city's pockets 132 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:43,140 but when we continue to see these things, we have to take these precautions 133 00:10:43,140 --> 00:10:47,140 and I do think that this is an avenue in which we can do so. 134 00:10:47,140 --> 00:10:50,140 But more importantly, I think there's some other things that we have to do too. 135 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:52,140 I mean, we have to be practical in our budgeting. 136 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:55,140 It can't be something that's just stuff on paper. 137 00:10:55,140 --> 00:10:58,140 Donna, one of the questions I want to ask because I did see 138 00:10:58,140 --> 00:11:02,140 when I was watching Channel 1322 or something, I think. 139 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:07,140 I saw her at the control board meeting 140 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:12,140 and just wanted to get a sense of what are the thoughts on our current finances. 141 00:11:12,140 --> 00:11:15,140 We will be filing the first quarter gap. 142 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:17,140 Tomorrow as a matter of fact. 143 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:20,140 And we are going to be pretty much at budget right now. 144 00:11:20,140 --> 00:11:22,140 We have reduced expenses. 145 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:25,140 I mean our projection right now, we have some savings in healthcare. 146 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:29,140 We have some savings in the salary adjustment 147 00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:33,140 and a buyer contract is going to come to you very soon. 148 00:11:33,140 --> 00:11:39,140 For approval into that contract, we will not need the full salary adjustment that we had put. 149 00:11:39,140 --> 00:11:45,140 We were going to have some, the borrowing because we have the state that is going to help us 150 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:48,140 with moving up our state aid payment. 151 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:52,140 So I don't think we'll be needing, we had a million and a half in the freeze account 152 00:11:52,140 --> 00:11:54,140 for anticipated rent borrowing. 153 00:11:54,140 --> 00:11:57,140 So our expenses are going to be down about four million. 154 00:11:57,140 --> 00:12:01,140 Our revenues, we did put the PDA, the traffic adjudication down, 155 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:03,140 about two million dollars. 156 00:12:03,140 --> 00:12:09,140 Our gross utility tax is down about 400,000 dollars there to date. 157 00:12:09,140 --> 00:12:13,140 And the sale of assets, I did read the capital asset. 158 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:17,140 So all sold, it's going to be pretty much at budget though. 159 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:21,140 So are you going to do a re-forecast of the budget? 160 00:12:21,140 --> 00:12:22,140 Yes. 161 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,140 When will we get that? 162 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:24,140 I'm filing it tomorrow. 163 00:12:24,140 --> 00:12:26,140 Okay, thank you. 164 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:32,140 Lastly, Mr. Chair, I thought you had made reference to maybe having the control board 165 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:34,140 come in and give us some type of presentation. 166 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:38,140 Is that something that you're still interested in doing possibly? 167 00:12:38,140 --> 00:12:40,140 In which year did I do that? 168 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:42,140 I mean, it's been every year for the last 10 years. 169 00:12:42,140 --> 00:12:43,140 We've asked them to come to the budget committee. 170 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:44,140 They won't show up in the building. 171 00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:46,140 They don't even know where City Hall is at the time. 172 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:49,140 For the million dollars they spend each year on our taxpayer dollars. 173 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:50,140 I don't know. 174 00:12:50,140 --> 00:12:51,140 Okay. 175 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:52,140 I'll talk to you about it later. 176 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:53,140 We'll see what you come up with. 177 00:12:53,140 --> 00:12:54,140 But yeah, they refuse to come in the building. 178 00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:55,140 They refuse to have an office in this building. 179 00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:58,140 They refuse to save $60,000 a year on rent that they spent. 180 00:12:58,140 --> 00:12:59,140 They just refuse. 181 00:12:59,140 --> 00:13:01,140 And all they want to do is expend. 182 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:05,140 A million dollars a year that we spend on the taxpayer's paying that control board every year. 183 00:13:05,140 --> 00:13:08,140 And it'd be nice if they have pined on a few of the things here in person. 184 00:13:08,140 --> 00:13:10,140 Had a report with the council. 185 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:13,140 Had a report with this body. 186 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:15,140 But we don't exist to them. 187 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,140 Well, we put it out there. 188 00:13:16,140 --> 00:13:17,140 It's on the internet. 189 00:13:17,140 --> 00:13:18,140 Go read it. 190 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:19,140 That's great. 191 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:20,140 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 192 00:13:20,140 --> 00:13:21,140 Sorry. 193 00:13:21,140 --> 00:13:22,140 Mr. Rivera. 194 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:23,140 Thank you. 195 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:24,140 Thank you. 196 00:13:24,140 --> 00:13:29,140 We're done up with regards to the fines and tickets. 197 00:13:29,140 --> 00:13:35,140 I agree that that is not a reliable source of revenue. 198 00:13:35,140 --> 00:13:38,140 Because you really can't depend on it. 199 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:43,140 People are conditioned to obey the vehicle and traffic laws that we issue tickets. 200 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:47,140 So that's very unpredictable, unreliable. 201 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:56,140 Have we done an analysis because we have the same manpower, the same resources we had last year? 202 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:59,140 But revenues are down. 203 00:13:59,140 --> 00:14:09,140 So I'm trying to understand we're going to put together another team of police officers to go out and pay tickets. 204 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:16,140 But I'm trying to understand why if we had resources last time and revenues were up 100,000 per. 205 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:18,140 What is going on? 206 00:14:18,140 --> 00:14:23,140 I mean, are we doing an analysis to try to figure out why revenues are down? 207 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:26,140 Is it because people are conditioned? 208 00:14:26,140 --> 00:14:28,140 We have the same manpower. 209 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:32,140 We have the same resources in place that we had last year. 210 00:14:32,140 --> 00:14:36,140 But yet we're down 100,000 per month. 211 00:14:36,140 --> 00:14:39,140 I'm just wondering what are we doing to... 212 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:45,140 Traffic violations is going through each type of ticket right now and seeing the change from here to here. 213 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:48,140 Thank you. 214 00:14:48,140 --> 00:14:52,140 I was glad to hear that expenses are down. 215 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:54,140 You mentioned expenses are down. 216 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,000 What are some of the expenses that are down right now? 217 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,000 As I mentioned, from the projection, we're not going to use the borrowing. 218 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 So I had almost a million dollars there. 219 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Our health care for retiree inactive right now is pending below budget by a little about a million two. 220 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:29,000 We're not using the stale readjustment, full stale readjustment that we put in the budget to settle conflict. 221 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,000 And that's about $650,000. 222 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,000 And our services and supply lines are down about a million dollars. 223 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Now, the controller had asked that we ask the state to advance us state aid. 224 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,000 How's our catch on hand right now? Do we have to? 225 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Are we in a position right now where we should be asking the state to advance this money? 226 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Or do we have the funds to cover the expenses that we have? 227 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,000 From the August one, we did need that advancement. 228 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 But from the most recent one they filed, we do not need it. 229 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 He's showing a deficit come January. 230 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 So that would be the first time we would need an advancement. 231 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 So you say we do not need it? 232 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 We do not need it for December. 233 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 We do not need the money for December. 234 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 And it doesn't make sense to go get money from the state just to put in our bank account. 235 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 We would not ask them. 236 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 They are ready to help us, but we are not going to ask them. 237 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 They're willing to help us if we need it. 238 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:43,000 However, if we're paying our expenses, there's no sense in forward us advancing us the money sits in our bank account. 239 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 They wouldn't do it. 240 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Because all they're doing is saying we're sending you money, you're going to put it in the bank. 241 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 When you don't need it. 242 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,000 So they're going to wait until we do need it before they advance the money. 243 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Correct. 244 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Alright, thank you. 245 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Okay, we've been joined by Council Member Scanlon. 246 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,000 I failed to mention that earlier. 247 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,000 I apologize. 248 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,000 And also, Commissioner, you mentioned that the gross utilities tax is down 400,000. 249 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 That's a revenue to the city now. 250 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Where's the cost factor of that? 251 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Those are where utility companies, phone companies pay a 3% gross utility tax. 252 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:26,000 What we are doing right now, we're going through the last five years in comparing the companies that have been paying the companies that kind of dropped off. 253 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,000 And we're starting to reach out to them to say, you owe us the money. 254 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000 So we don't know if they're existing companies or if they have gone bankrupt or what to deal with. 255 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 So at this point in your day, we're $400,000 shy as to last year. 256 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 What was the total of dollar last year? 257 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Pardon me? 258 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 What was the total of dollar last year? 259 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 It was about $7.5 million? 260 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 $7.5 million. 261 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,000 And that's inclusive of the spectrum franchise agreement as well? 262 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 No, that's separate. 263 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 That's separate? 264 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Okay. 265 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 That'd be separate. 266 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 All right. 267 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Great. 268 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 I think we've thoroughly looked at the issue and we'll motion the table at this time. 269 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Motion to table. 270 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Seconded by Council Member Wyatt. 271 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Commissioner, thanks for coming in. 272 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 And thank you for the report. 273 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 The choice. 274 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Item number two, spectrum to raise prices for cable and internet services next month. 275 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Motion to table. 276 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Table seconded by Council Member Fairlittle. 277 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Item number three, Department of Public Service Commission. 278 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Motion open. 279 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Well, items open. 280 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Council Member Wyatt, do you have any concerns on this one? 281 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:33,000 I think that you pretty much summarized it that the PSC will not meet with us. 282 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:42,000 And they just wanted to send us a letter which, you know, you stated from past experiences that they were willing to meet with us. 283 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:49,000 So I'm just a little bit surprised that they've changed their practices and haven't given us any reason for understanding why they have done so. 284 00:18:49,000 --> 00:19:03,000 I think with the issue at hand and how spectrum has shown a very, a disrespect for the residents and their consumers that they would want to hear firsthand some of those issues and concerns. 285 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 We've laid it out a number of times. 286 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 The issues that we have with spectrum. 287 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Here we go with another price increase. 288 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:20,000 We're already paying the Cadillac of internet and cable services and they want to increase it even more. 289 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Two people who in some cases are, this is a priority for their children to learn and know other things. 290 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 They haven't been very cooperative with us. 291 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:36,000 And for them to submit a two for another rate increase is really just another slap in the face. 292 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000 So I don't know what our next step is steps forward. 293 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:47,000 I know the PSC continues to put pressure on spectrum, but then I hear at the same time they're renegotiating. 294 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000 How do we fit into that? 295 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 How do our residents fit into that? 296 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 How do our customers fit into that? 297 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 We really need to know we need to hear from them. 298 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:03,000 So for them not to come is really just almost a double whammy because we have spectrum doing us on one side and then here they are on the other. 299 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Thank you. 300 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Okay. 301 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:12,000 With the retirement of Steve Shea from the PSC a couple of, about a decade ago, we really have not heard from the PSC in this chamber since. 302 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 So that's that's been a problem. 303 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 There is a letter floating around that's been filed with the council. 304 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:23,000 We'll have that next committee meeting and we can go through the letter and they say that they addressed the concerns that are in our letter. 305 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 But you're not some of those letters are. 306 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Thank you for contacting our office and we'll look at it. 307 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000 So we'll see. 308 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 But we really wanted to start that communication with the PSC as we go into negotiations. 309 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:41,000 We'll continue to push and then based on the letter of what they've sent, we might want to do a resolution calling upon them to meet with us on a variety of topics. 310 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Yeah, I think I mean the fact that we're the second largest city in the state and for the PSC not to entertain us in the conversation really is like a slap in the face. 311 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 I took it that way too. 312 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Steve used to travel from Albany to Buffalo and stay there to work late into the night to make the most of his time here in Buffalo. 313 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,000 We asked for a telecom conference, which could be done in any room pretty much any time. 314 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 I didn't think it cost that much. 315 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 So just a concern that they weren't willing to do that. 316 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 So we'll go from there. 317 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,000 So we'll table this and we'll wait for the item to follow through to the council process. 318 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Motion to table. 319 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Table seconded by council member for a little item number for spectrum rate increases. 320 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Motion to table. 321 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Table seconded by Mr. Wyatt. 322 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Take from the table item five. 323 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Okay. 324 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,000 So moved. 325 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Item number five. 326 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Cash flow report August 28th. 327 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Motion to receive and file. 328 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Receive and file. 329 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,000 We'll keep a folder though and staff of course of all the cash flow reports seconded by council member Wyatt. 330 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Motion to adjourn. 331 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Motion to adjourn.