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was the best made up my mind over the

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week.

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» Lauren wind down.

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» I've heard that.

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» I'm glad you're here. I'm like,

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» You know, when you had children,

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» It's just not going to work down like

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that evening.

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» So, night of audition.

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» All right, we'll call this meeting to

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order.

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» If you can please stand for the pledge

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of allegiance.

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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[clears throat]

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» Commissioner Wiki, would you lead us in

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prayer?

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» Sure. Let's pray.

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Lord, we come to you tonight and uh ask

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that you would lead us and guide us in

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this meeting. Pray that uh you would

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bless our city, that you would uh use us

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uh to make wise decisions uh to help our

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community. We pray this in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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» Roll call. City clear.

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» Commissioner Burr

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Boring

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» Here. Commissioner Wiki

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Smith

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Abs

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Miller

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» Here. Vice Mayor Mullins

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» Present.

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» Mayor Perez here.

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» All right, moving on with the agenda

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under proclamations and presentations.

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There's none tonight.

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» We'll go ahead and move on to the

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visitor section. There's a visitor that

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would like to make a public comment for

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items not listed on the agenda. Please

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step forward to the podium. State your

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name and address and you'll have two

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I see no takers.

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» All right. Next on the agenda is the

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approval of the agenda.

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» So moved.

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» Do we have a motion?

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» Second

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» And support. All in favor?

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» I oppose.

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» So move.

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» Next on the agenda is the approval of

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the consent agenda.

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» So moved.

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» So we have a motion.

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» And support. All in favor?

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» So move.

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» Next is unfinished business and we have

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none tonight. So, we'll move in straight

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into new business and we'll get started

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with the wastewater treatment plant

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bioolids landation

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bid. Mr. Brandon,

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welcome tonight. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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City commissioners

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um presenting to you tonight

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um proposal from Wheeling Brothers. So,

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the wastewater treatment plant produces

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approximately a million gallons of bio

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salads each year. These require proper

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disposal. Um these are the disposal

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methods are regulated by Eagle EPA

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standards. Um the preferred method for

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this disposal is to recycle the bioids

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onto agricultural land for conditioning

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the soil and providing nutrient value

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for the crops to be grown. Um, this

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method requires that the city contract

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services for the removal,

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transportation, and the land application

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of the bioolids.

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Um, staff published an invitation to bid

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July 20th. Um, exhibit A, which is

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included in your packet, [clears throat]

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basically outlines the spec and

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everything that is required for the land

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application process. um who is required

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to fulfill what role. Um

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this is a four-year contract that we're

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looking at um that we went out for.

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past. It just seems like

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it's a lot of leg work to get constant

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contractors come in and to turn around

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and then replace it out. So, we've had

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success with the four-year contract. um

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bids were based on a per gallon

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fall. Uh so 5.7 cents per gallon. So

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we're looking and then about 2% each

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increase each year after that and then a

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one time uh sludge storage tank cleaning

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or 11 cents a gallon. Um

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one bid from Wheeling Brothers LLC from

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out of Fowler, Indiana. Um Wheeling has

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had the previous contract for the four

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years prior. Um we've had great success

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in working with them. We've had

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good feedback from the land owners, from

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um work the fields that we're we're

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applying on. Um, so I feel like we

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should definitely consider this bid

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considering it's the only one also that

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helps. But, um, they've been we've had

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great success with them in the past and

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The bid contract amount is $300,000

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respectively. Uh, there is a bid

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breakdown by the year as you can see

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here. Um, other than that, open to

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answer any questions.

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» Any questions for Brandon? No.

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» It's a four-year contract. So,

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basically, they'll have this they will

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sign the contract. They will be the uh

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ones applying for four years,

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consecutive years.

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» How how often do they do that?

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» We land apply once a year.

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» Once a year.

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» Yep. About a million gallons once a

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typically the contract spells it out

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that they're supposed to be done before

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November 30th each year. That way it

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keeps us out of the frost. It keeps us

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out of spring application and um

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basically as soon as the crops are off,

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they can get in there, they can land

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apply and it sits for the winter. Nice.

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I I know I said something uh to Andrew

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in the past. I would I'd love to see our

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community have something that would burn

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the bioolids and then people or other

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communities would sell it to us as well

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uh for electric production. Um that way

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we're maybe possibly at some point

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making money off of it instead of losing

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just a thought there. Um so I don't know

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if you guys are familiar in the past we

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uh I guess ways of handling the bioolids

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and to get to a dry process as you're

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stating is uh

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would take pretty significant amount of

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capital for that to

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» You'd have to have a drier or something

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» So you first step is you're dewatering

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so you have to get it down to to a

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certain consistency um percent solids

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dewatered state then you can move on to

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drying um and then from there drying

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that opens up the different

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opportunities if you're talking

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incineration of some sort.

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that would look like.

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» Um we pretty much stopped at what it

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would look like for the dewatering and

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then for the drying process.

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The numbers were pretty substantial. So

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that's kind of where we looked at.

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» Gotcha.

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» Any other questions for Brandon?

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» Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturgeis City

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Commission approved the bid for Wheeling

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Brothers LLC in the amount of $300,000

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for land allocation of bioolids as

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presented.

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» So we have a motion, second and support.

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All in favor?

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» I I opposed.

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» So move. Thank you, Brandon.

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» Thank you.

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» Next on the agenda is the 2027 sidewalk

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repair program.

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» Patrick, welcome.

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» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Commission. Uh the

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engineering department is working to

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implement a new sidewalk uh repair

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program for 2627.

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damaged sidewalks and trip hazards. Um,

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and it says uh uh where there are no

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current sidewalks. Um, to clarify that

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some of the sidewalks are so damaged

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that the homeowners are actually picking

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the sidewalks out and they're leaving

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them large gaps. So, that's that's

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what's also in this um packet. Um we are

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requesting that land and resource

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engineering LRE provide bidding services

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for the project as well as limited

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construction observation construction

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material and testing. Uh the proposal um

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will be for LRE to prepare a limited bid

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package sidewalk removal replacement

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across all four cities or all four wards

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across the city. Um using the

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engineering department um we have a full

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list of the sidewalks of the city of

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Sturgis um where they are needed the

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most um across all four wards and the

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[cough and clears throat] engineering

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department will also be handling all of

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the rightaway permitting. Um during this

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um six bi-weekly visits uh over 12 weeks

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in the 2027 uh year. Um, construction

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materials will be handled by the

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contractor and the proposal fees from

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LRE are $7,500 for the project cost and

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then up to um but not to exceed $12,140

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for the con uh to oversee the

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» Hi. Good evening. Um

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» My name is Neil Dwitz with Land Resource

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so I worked with Barry a little bit

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before he left trying to put this

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proposal together. I think maybe a year

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or two ago. Um was approached by Patrick

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of to bring this back um to put to put a

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proposal together, put a bid package

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together to get um uh the program off on

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its feet. Um understanding that we want

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to use public dollars as efficiently as

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we can and not put all that into

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engineering and try to put it into the

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sidewalk itself. Um so we we've kind of

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we're going to partner up with Patrick

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and his his staff as well to to make

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sure we get the best product of the

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do have some history of the city. Uh

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and did a lot of the brick roads around

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town. So do have some familiarity with

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the city. Um but yeah, looking forward

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city.

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» Any questions for Lee? I

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» Have a couple of Patrick or was it Neil?

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Yeah.

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» Neil or

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» Um

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um is this all the whole list that we

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received is that is all of that to be

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done in this calendar year in the next

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2027?

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» No sir. [clears throat]

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» Okay.

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» So that's just what we've identified as

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needing to be done all over the city.

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But how much of this would we complete

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in the next year? Um, so right now we

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are looking at about $200,000

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um for the actual construction portion

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of um of the project itself. Um, I would

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have to get back with you on what the

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linear footage is um, or how many

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squares that is because uh, right now

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we're actually identifying about $30 a

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square foot. Um, and then all of the

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sidewalk repair is uh, our math is based

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on 4x4 by 4 inch thick.

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But to answer your question, uh, not all

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of that is going to be done this year.

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We actually are trying to budget every

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other year for $200,000 for the sidewalk

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program.

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» So, have you have you determined where

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you would start it yet or anything or

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what areas to hit first kind of thing

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or?

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» Um, so right now we would we're probably

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going to try to attack the worst areas,

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biggest trip hazards. Um obviously the

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last uh storm has ripped up, you know,

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large chunks um out of the ground

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itself. So we'll pro, you know, we want

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to we want to make sure that um we get

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the worst ones, the biggest trip

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hazards, anything that's uh definitely

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going to create any sort of safety

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issues.

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» Okay. But you you haven't identified

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exactly which ones you're going that's

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still in the worst of where you're going

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to start and what areas you're going to

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hit. I guess you don't know that yet

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though. uh like we just want to do the

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worst um so the packet that we actually

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have has you know 3inch gaps or two inch

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gaps. We want to do anything that's

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probably the worst safety safety hazards

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right out the gate.

335
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» And then one question about the list.

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There's there's many of them that have

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there was one on the first page for 301

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Chicago that had like their property

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listed like six times. It had two

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different owners. I mean I see a lot of

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these in here that have no longer the

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owners of the properties. I don't know

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where this information is coming from

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from the list that was compiled

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necessarily. Um, but I see a lot of

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those have like corner lots. So, we're

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looking at two different street

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sections, but some of them are just

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short distances like 211 Virginia for

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instance. They're listed three times or

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three different amounts. Why are they

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listed multiple times?

353
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» Uh, I'd have to double check that. That

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list has been in engineering for years.

355
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Um, so, you know, obviously we want to

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go back through and clean that up.

357
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[clears throat]

358
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Oh, so this isn't something that you

359
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compiled recently.

360
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» Not currently. No, we've had this

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» Name don't match properties. [laughter]

362
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» Well, certainly before any letters go

363
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out, you know, they will acquire the

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information from our assessing database

365
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to get

366
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» Well, I've seen I saw some names in the

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property owners having been property

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owners for years. Yeah. On these

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properties and I'm like, what what's

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going on with this stuff?

371
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» Yeah.

372
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» So, if there are some that are listed

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like three times, like 211 Virginia

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Street, the short front and they've got

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three lines. There's only gonna be one

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line on their property line when this

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thing is completed.

378
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» Correct.

379
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» I didn't know if you had one that, you

380
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know, one line for repair, one for

381
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replace kind of thing. I didn't know how

382
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they all work.

383
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» So, right now, um there's going to be uh

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quite a large list as far as um a lot of

385
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them have like tree roots underneath

386
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them. So, it's not just going to be

387
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we're going to go in take the sidewalk

388
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out and then replace the sidewalk.

389
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there's going to be root restoration um

390
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on some of those which is going to

391
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obviously cost a little bit more um than

392
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just having somebody else you know

393
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repair a 4x4 ft um section of sidewalk.

394
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So uh ultimately we're going to try to

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take as much cost into consideration and

396
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make sure that uh we can get especially

397
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for the first goound as much done as we

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possibly can. Um [clears throat]

399
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you know the worst ones.

400
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» Okay. Uh, well, that explains a lot that

401
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this was compiled. So,

402
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» Yeah, it's it's been many, many, many

403
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years. I know that we've been trying to

404
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do a sidewalk program or from what I

405
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understand, we're going to try to do a

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sidewalk program for quite a while now.

407
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» Okay.

408
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» So,

409
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» So now we're trying to implement the

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sidewalk program.

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» So, I'm guessing this list doesn't

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include the ones that were recently

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ripped up by the storms or could not or

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may not.

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» I'll have to double check that. Yeah.

416
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» Okay.

417
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» So, Dan may have up um updated that um

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over the last few weeks. So, I'll just

419
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double check that.

420
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» And is there any reason why some are

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bold and some are not? Is that just from

422
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the old listing?

423
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» That's that's from the old listing.

424
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» Okay. All right. Thank you.

425
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» So, what was it?

426
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» Go ahead.

427
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» What was the criteria for your um

428
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repairs like one inch lift in the

429
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sidewalk, 2 in? What What was the

430
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minimum? What's

431
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» So, the minimum sidewalk repair I

432
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believe is an eighth of an inch uh for

433
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any sort of trip hazard. Yeah, correct.

434
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Um, we have some that are hinged, you

435
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know, 4 in. So, um, we're going to want

436
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to take care of those, you know, 4 inch

437
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ones before we do any half inch ones.

438
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Um,

439
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we have a lot of decrepit sidewalk. Um,

440
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so I think again for the first goound

441
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for, you know, the $200,000 that we're

442
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going to spend, we just need to get as

443
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much done as we possibly can to to kind

444
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of show that, you know, we're we're

445
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doing our best for the city.

446
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Now, you're also I saw that on some of

447
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the uh address there again since it

448
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hasn't been updated yet, which I went

449
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,480
out and noticed that um on my street on

450
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my block alone, there was nothing listed

451
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,520
and yet there's probably at least five

452
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houses that have noticeable cracks that

453
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:18,000
need to be remediated. But, u so

454
00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:20,240
hopefully we'll get that finished before

455
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,600
you start ping everything else plus the

456
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storm damage.

457
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,079
I think hopefully it should be done this

458
00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:27,679
year. But

459
00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:31,360
» Yeah, uh actually Jim today called me um

460
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and was talking to um someone at a

461
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property that he was doing a meter

462
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,480
service for and texted me today uh to

463
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add her to the to the list. So, we're

464
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going to go out tomorrow and look at her

465
00:17:39,919 --> 00:17:45,360
sidewalks, too. Um you know, we get

466
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calls probably two or three times a week

467
00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:50,240
um about sidewalk replacements, cracks,

468
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lifts, especially again from the storm.

469
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Um, so it's going to be it's going to be

470
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an ongoing thing throughout, you know,

471
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forever probably, you know, as

472
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especially as we're as Sturgis is

473
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growing and adding subdivisions, you

474
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,720
know, you're only adding more and more

475
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:10,400
sidewalks uh to the city of Sturgis. Um,

476
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and I mean, you can walk around right

477
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,640
now, there's there's a lot of uh

478
00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:16,960
sidewalks that definitely need repair.

479
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,880
Um, so ultimately again for the

480
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,039
engineering side, you know, we want to

481
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,480
get this kicked off. Um, we're probably

482
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going to have a couple of bumps. You

483
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,120
know, it seems this is a new project for

484
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:29,039
us. Um, but ultimately it's it's to get

485
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some stuff done, make sure we're doing

486
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it uh adequate adequately, correctly,

487
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and um and learn from anything that we

488
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get out of this one so that when we come

489
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back and do it back in uh 2029,

490
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um you know, that we can learn from our

491
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mistakes and and get, you know, even

492
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,600
more bang for our buck.

493
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» So,

494
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,960
another question is why do we have to

495
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have an engineering firm to repair

496
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,039
sidewalks?

497
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Um ultimately they are putting a package

498
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bid together for the $7,500. They LRE um

499
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is from what I understand has been

500
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successful in doing Grand Rapids. Uh

501
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,360
right now we have

502
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:15,520
I think 16 projects going right now in

503
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:18,160
engineering um with three of us. Uh, and

504
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:22,480
that's that's

505
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not um that doesn't even count like what

506
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we do with the mistakes or our daily

507
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routines. Um, so we are extremely busy.

508
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We just can't handle uh in the

509
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engineering department right now taking

510
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that on

511
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» Basically. So you just need someone to

512
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send out the bids.

513
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,440
So what we need is we need somebody to

514
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put the pre the project package

515
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:51,039
together. Um we are going to handle the

516
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:52,480
letters that go out to the um

517
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the residents

518
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:58,160
» And then as the project is going is

519
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,679
going to come down every other week and

520
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,160
double check all the work that's being

521
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done by the contractor.

522
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,400
Seems like an awful lot of money to come

523
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,640
down every two weeks to check on

524
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progress.

525
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,880
» Um I agree. Uh I just feel like in

526
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:22,559
engineering right now we can spend um

527
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,960
our time uh in a different manner.

528
00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:27,679
» Well, right now we're having sidewalks

529
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,640
repaired sporadically with um I think

530
00:20:27,679 --> 00:20:33,679
it's Mr. Miller concrete.

531
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,480
Um he's done a lot of work for the city

532
00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:39,600
over the years, very reliable.

533
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,360
Um you

534
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,120
I assume you're going to take off the

535
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:44,720
lowest bid in the contract. Maybe we

536
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,039
won't get him again.

537
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,200
» Correct.

538
00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,520
» Um but

539
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,480
there's not a whole lot to do to take

540
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:56,880
out us a piece of sidewalk,

541
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,960
form it, and pour another.

542
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,000
So I don't

543
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And there's there's

544
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,799
you're going to want to hire the

545
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,919
contractor that's probably the closest

546
00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:11,039
to the area that's going to be able to,

547
00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:13,760
you know, minimum travel times, lower

548
00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:16,000
the cost and all that. So, I would just

549
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,039
think that the city could do it a little

550
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,520
bit cheaper than spending $20,000 for an

551
00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:24,400
engineering firm.

552
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,440
» Um, I appreciate your opinion. Yes.

553
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,159
» Can I interject?

554
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:31,360
» Yes, sir, you can.

555
00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:34,799
The idea is that [clears throat]

556
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:37,919
design services is one aspect or one

557
00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:41,200
component of this contract. The other is

558
00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:43,360
the construction which would include

559
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,679
inspection.

560
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:48,559
And

561
00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:51,440
one of the things because we have so

562
00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:56,000
much sidewalk, it makes it more

563
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:59,440
efficient for us to perform this way as

564
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,840
opposed to having staff

565
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,360
divided up where we're doing other

566
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,880
projects.

567
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:08,960
So the idea is, and I would agree with

568
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,280
you that years ago that would have been

569
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,080
the typical way that we approach

570
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,080
sidewalks is to just to try to find a

571
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,960
local contractor,

572
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,159
fill it in. But that means that we have

573
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:26,000
to take somebody out of our office that

574
00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:30,559
could be working in another area.

575
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:33,039
So we have to rely on LRE to

576
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:37,039
be that fifth person out of the

577
00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:41,679
engineering office. So when we measure

578
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:45,600
the efficiency of having that extra firm

579
00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:47,360
do the design and inspection or design

580
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,440
staking.

581
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:52,840
It really is more efficient for us to do

582
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,840
it that way.

583
00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:57,520
Well, when you come down every two weeks

584
00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,400
to inspect how many yards have been

585
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,400
poured, how close are you actually

586
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,840
checking?

587
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,799
» Well, and again, um, if we have to

588
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:12,640
enforce, if something's not acceptable,

589
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:14,880
they will be the firm telling the

590
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,120
contractor, "Pull it out and do it

591
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,120
again."

592
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,679
I poured I poured a lot of concrete in

593
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:27,120
my life, but I'm

594
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:29,200
You don't know what's underneath that

595
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,720
either. Well, it's they felt like with

596
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,039
rocks or what? I'm not saying they

597
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,720
would. And I don't think that's not

598
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:38,159
worth their time to do that either, but

599
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:42,480
I just come down and see that the the

600
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:45,679
sidewalks are maybe um level or that

601
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,840
they are properly screed or brushed or

602
00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:50,559
whatever

603
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,600
after two weeks. I mean, yeah, if

604
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,520
they're not done, they can turn them

605
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,520
back out, but the damage is already

606
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520
done.

607
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,200
» And you're you're well noted on that.

608
00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:05,200
Um,

609
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:07,919
I think as we move forward, if this body

610
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,880
decides to move in that direction, as

611
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:14,159
Patrick had said, I'm sure that he's

612
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,120
going to have to refine along with LRE

613
00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:20,480
the way that we do things. If it doesn't

614
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:24,400
turn out to be a cost-saving measure for

615
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,720
us, then we'll have to resort to another

616
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,880
approach.

617
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,679
I mean, I guess ultimately this week is

618
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,960
a really good uh example of why we also

619
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:36,640
need to have extra resources. Um, this

620
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,120
week right now we have crack ceiling

621
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:43,520
going on. So, I have one of my gentlemen

622
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:44,960
out doing um Miss Digs uh all day. It's

623
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,240
it's a busy time of the year where

624
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,480
everybody wants to do fences and

625
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,799
driveways and all of that good stuff.

626
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,400
We're trying to do city, you know,

627
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,880
upgrade different things in the city.

628
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,760
Um, so he's gone for the full day. uh

629
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,520
Dan and I have been, you know, watching

630
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,679
uh them do the crack sealing and making

631
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,840
sure that they're doing everything on a,

632
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:05,760
you know, a competent level. And then on

633
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,039
top of that, you know, I've got, you

634
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,480
know, [clears throat] my director's, I

635
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,480
guess, a director's position to where

636
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,400
I'm making sure that everything is all

637
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,799
still moving forward with all of the

638
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,720
other projects that we have. Uh making

639
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,880
sure that some of the companies are

640
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,640
getting all their water hooked up, all

641
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,559
their meters done. Um so

642
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,480
for me in the engineering department we

643
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:29,200
are just very limited on resources when

644
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,120
we have a lot of projects going that we

645
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,919
need to be also on this like boots on

646
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:35,840
the ground. So it's it's kind of one of

647
00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:38,720
those things where

648
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,640
I agree with you. Um if I could have

649
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,240
extra resources in my office that would

650
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:46,159
be amazing. Um but we just don't.

651
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,640
» Well and that had been discussed with

652
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:50,320
Barry retiring. I mean that we weren't

653
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,799
we were going to be short staffed in

654
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,960
that department. So that was already

655
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,480
something that we had discussed. Weren't

656
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,679
there three people in that department?

657
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,880
Is that what you said? You have three

658
00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:01,120
people in the department.

659
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,360
» Myself, Dan, and uh Trey

660
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,360
» Just explain.

661
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:10,799
» So going back to the offish off topic on

662
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,960
this going back to the crack ceiling.

663
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,679
happened to go down the so I drive down

664
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Mechanic Street and I noticed that there

665
00:26:15,679 --> 00:26:20,080
were cracked ceiling down Mechanic

666
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Street, but they had cars parked all the

667
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,159
way down the road on the side of the

668
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,559
street. And it's just like why didn't

669
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:29,360
the city notify the residents not to

670
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:31,200
park on the street? Um because

671
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,760
underneath all the cars, of course,

672
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,000
that's where all the oils and

673
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,640
everything's going to leak and soft

674
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,520
pavement and cracks are going to happen.

675
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,799
But because all the road, all that side

676
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,520
of the road is covered, you guys

677
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:47,440
couldn't get under there. So, I thought,

678
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,559
well, why why weren't they notified

679
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,600
about that?

680
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,039
» Um, I believe the city was notified. Um,

681
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,240
however, with that being said, when

682
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:58,559
we're I think we're doing

683
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,320
90,000 pounds of cracking in a week, I

684
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:03,600
don't to move the city around of of cars

685
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
on the streets, I think, would be a

686
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,760
pretty tough ordeal.

687
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,679
Well, I mean, just send them letters to

688
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,320
say this sweeper cracks soon. Don't park

689
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:13,600
on the street. Just like if it's snow

690
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,360
emergency, they don't park on the

691
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:20,240
street. Well, not supposed to, but

692
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:23,279
just ask them for a friend.

693
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:27,480
» Thank you.

694
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,480
» Any other questions for Brandon?

695
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,440
City Commission approves a proposal from

696
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,400
land and resource engineering in the not

697
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,880
to exceed amounts of $7,500 for design

698
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,720
engineering services and not to exceed

699
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,640
$12,140

700
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,120
for construction engineering services

701
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,080
with an hourly

702
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:53,279
with an hourly.

703
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,080
It doesn't make sense but as presented.

704
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,360
» So we have a motion

705
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,960
» Not to exceed [laughter]

706
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,360
» Second. We have a motion [clears throat]

707
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,720
and a second. All in favor?

708
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,120
» I opposed.

709
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,559
» I

710
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,880
» So moved.

711
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:03,679
» Thank you.

712
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,159
» Thank you.

713
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:07,159
» Thank you, [laughter] Patrick.

714
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,960
» Next on the agenda is the uh 69 KV

715
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,600
transmission line bids. Mr. Chris,

716
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840
» Welcome.

717
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,360
» Good evening, mayor, vice mayor,

718
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,640
commissioners.

719
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:28,559
Uh in this year's uh budget um we do

720
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,679
have actually next year's budget uh we

721
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:35,279
have uh funds budgeted for the 69 KB

722
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:37,760
transmission line. Uh in preparation for

723
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:40,480
that and because I wasn't for sure if

724
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,039
the A line was going to be acquired by

725
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,520
the time uh we got the substation done

726
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:48,320
uh we just moved this ahead to to be

727
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,840
done uh early uh in in this next budget

728
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,080
year. So, a requested for for proposal

729
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,760
for the construction of the Nawa Street

730
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,240
69 uh project was posted on bidnet on

731
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,840
the bidet website and five bids were

732
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:07,520
received on July 27th. A summary of the

733
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:10,080
bids is included in your packet. Uh the

734
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,480
bids were reviewed for completeness and

735
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,320
conformance uh to the documents that

736
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,440
were posted. The low bidder was Extreme

737
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Power Line with a bid of $429,91.7.

738
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,080
Extreme Power Line has not worked for

739
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,960
the city uh previously. Uh so a list of

740
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,720
references were requested. Uh it was

741
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,679
requested for them to provide references

742
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,000
for municipal or co-op utilities. Uh but

743
00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:37,200
the references provided were only for

744
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,720
large investorowned uh utilities. Uh an

745
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320
attempt was made to contact the

746
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,799
references provided and only one

747
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,720
reference responded to that request. Uh

748
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:48,000
there's also cause for concern because

749
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,760
of how much the low bidder uh how much

750
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,559
lower Extreme Power Lines bid was from

751
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,840
the next lowest bidder and the average

752
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:57,679
bid price. Uh so that could indicate

753
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,320
change orders in the future or maybe

754
00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:02,000
they didn't give us a complete uh bid.

755
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,120
So

756
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,880
next uh New Kirk Newkirk Electric was

757
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,880
the next lowest bidder with a bid of

758
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,880
$660,000.88.

759
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,320
They do have a history of successfully

760
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:17,120
completing these transmission and

761
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,120
distribution projects for uh municipal

762
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,039
utilities and they are also the

763
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,000
contractor for the state line substation

764
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,919
project. Uh staff recommends approving

765
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,320
the bid from New Kirk Electric in the

766
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:29,320
amount of $660,000.88.

767
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,080
I did include uh an overall uh project

768
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,080
um

769
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,399
summary uh as well in the the packet. Um

770
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,799
so we're well within uh the budgeted

771
00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:47,120
amount. Uh we we have budgeted funds of

772
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:49,760
two 2,200,000

773
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,159
for this project. Uh with the po

774
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,679
purchase of poles uh engineering and

775
00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:58,840
construction

776
00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:58,840
uh the total so far is 794,277.

777
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,200
I will anticipate uh another uh cost

778
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:07,520
coming in and that is for tying in this

779
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,919
line to the state line substation that

780
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,520
has not been engineered or bid out yet.

781
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:16,000
So um I said state line sorry uh

782
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,360
southeast substation which is currently

783
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,240
uh in use. So

784
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,720
any questions for Chris? uh with what

785
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,720
we've got left and what we've got left

786
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,960
to do, how are we

787
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,320
how are we at on the budget? You said

788
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,640
there was going to be an additional

789
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,399
cost. Are we where we should be or

790
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,440
» I think we'll come in under on this

791
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:42,559
specific project uh for that that

792
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,559
transmission line. Um that tie-in I

793
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:47,440
don't believe is going to rem uh take up

794
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:50,559
the remaining u budget item. So I think

795
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,360
we'll be sitting pretty good on that. So

796
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:55,760
yeah, thank you

797
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Chris. Going um going with the lowest

798
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,200
bidder 429

799
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000
about 230,000 in savings if you will.

800
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,799
» Correct. My concern and like I said our

801
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:10,000
concern uh they are not uh from from

802
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:12,880
Michigan. Uh they're out of state. Uh

803
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,679
our concern really is that they didn't

804
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,919
uh bid the entire scope of the project

805
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:20,240
or know what the project was even though

806
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:21,440
it was explained to them. Uh our concern

807
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,320
is that they come back with change

808
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:28,880
orders by not including certain items in

809
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:31,039
in their their bid. Uh so um with that

810
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,720
coupled with I mean you can see the

811
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:35,852
average of the other bids. I mean that

812
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,200
looks more in line uh to us as well. Um,

813
00:32:35,852 --> 00:32:39,760
[clears throat] we've worked with CC

814
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,519
Power, we've worked with Newerk, um, and

815
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,679
Camp Power. All three of those we've

816
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,120
worked with in the past. Uh, so we

817
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:47,200
would, we would assume that their bids

818
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:50,399
are pretty good bids and and really, uh,

819
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,360
know what we're we're looking for. Uh,

820
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:55,279
the nice opportunity is that Newkerk is

821
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,880
currently building our substation down

822
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:59,519
there. They would be able to pull their

823
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,159
crews and and work on this and do the

824
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:06,480
entire uh, project. uh which I think

825
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:09,440
will will um work well for a workflow

826
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,640
and then you know coupled with hopefully

827
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,320
not a ton or any change orders but

828
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,320
project of this size you just don't know

829
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,320
what you're getting into. So

830
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,320
» Okay

831
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,919
any other questions for Chris

832
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,960
Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturge of

833
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,880
City Commission approve the bid for New

834
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,799
Kirk Electric for the Nawa Suite 69 KV

835
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,760
transmission line construction project

836
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,760
in the amount of $660,088

837
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,480
as presented.

838
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:46,000
» So, we have a motion support and

839
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:51,000
support. All in favor? I

840
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,000
» I oppose. So, move.

841
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,799
Next on the agenda is the railroad

842
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,200
crossing closing addendum. Press. All

843
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,240
right. So, with the state line

844
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,120
construction of the state line

845
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,960
substation uh south of the city, uh this

846
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,040
will be fed two ways. The the uh the

847
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,359
line or the 69 KB line that we just

848
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:15,520
approved construction of, but then also

849
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:18,720
the A line that we did finally receive

850
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:22,639
um that final agreement from AP signed

851
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:24,800
about two weeks ago. So, um it worked

852
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,240
out. It was close, but uh we finally got

853
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,599
it done after, you know, three and a

854
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:31,839
half years. So, um with that being said,

855
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:34,399
we need to cross the the railroad tracks

856
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:39,440
with those lines from AD to uh the

857
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:42,480
substation. Uh so with that um we we had

858
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,159
to get with the railroad um and uh the

859
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,480
attorney worked with the railroad and

860
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:49,119
and got this addendum uh that is in your

861
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,960
packet to the master agreement that we

862
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:54,560
have uh with the city that would just

863
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,839
add this crossing as an annual uh fee to

864
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,079
the city um and allow us to cross that

865
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:02,480
right away. So permit has already been

866
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:05,680
obtained for the construction. That cost

867
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,920
was $5,500 that's been paid and approved

868
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,160
uh by Newkerk as part of that project

869
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,200
for the crossing. This is going to be an

870
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,720
annual fee of $91862

871
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,400
to

872
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:19,400
continue to cross the railroad. So

873
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:27,320
» Okay,

874
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,320
any questions for Chris on this pan?

875
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,119
Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturgeis City

876
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Commission approve the sixth addendum to

877
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:37,839
wireline pipeline crossing agreement and

878
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,280
approval of the city manager to sign all

879
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:41,760
necessary documents.

880
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,880
» So, we have a motion, support and

881
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,079
support. All in favor?

882
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:49,240
» I opposed. So, move. Thank you, Chris.

883
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,240
Thank you.

884
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,400
» Next on the agenda is the digger truck

885
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,440
installment purchase agreement. Miss

886
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,839
Sager.

887
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,000
» Good evening, commissioners. Um, back in

888
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:03,760
May of 25, the commission approved the

889
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:07,520
purchase of a DH50E dual axle digger

890
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,599
dirt truck to replace the current 2013

891
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,720
um, digger truck, an amount not to

892
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:17,599
exceed the 450. Um, in October, it was

893
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:20,880
adjusted um, not to exceed uh, 460,000.

894
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:24,320
This unit is used to dig holes and set

895
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:28,400
holes and um large transformers. Uh and

896
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:32,920
it is on a 12-year replacement cycle. Um

897
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,920
the final price came in at $452,128.

898
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Um so in order to purchase this

899
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:41,680
equipment, we're seeking um we have

900
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,160
sought fi um financing options under an

901
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:47,440
installment purchase agreement. um we've

902
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,760
sent out um an RFP to local banks and

903
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,480
received in your packet was what we

904
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:56,320
received back in terms of those bids.

905
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,240
And so we're seeking approval um for a

906
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,359
an installment purchase agreement with

907
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:05,680
Southern Michigan Bank and Trust um at a

908
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:07,520
rate of 4.13% for 10 years. Um so

909
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:11,200
included in your packet was also a

910
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,440
resolution that outlined that agreement.

911
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Um I believe there were some questions

912
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:20,480
around the um total amount of interest

913
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,040
um that would be incurred between the

914
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:27,599
seven and 10ear rates um that would be

915
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:31,599
roughly um $34,000 between seven and 10

916
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:34,320
years difference. So

917
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,920
» What would the uh payment price be?

918
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:40,240
» Um

919
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,839
rough roughly 18,000 a year. uh a

920
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,640
difference between the payments.

921
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:44,480
» Okay.

922
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,359
» Yep.

923
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,800
1,500 a month.

924
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:51,359
So, kind of thinking forward to the

925
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,240
purchases we have upcoming um

926
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:56,720
particularly in fiscal year 2028, we

927
00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:01,599
have the fire truck which will be over a

928
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:05,359
million and then we have slated for um

929
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,040
another bucket truck and th those are

930
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:10,240
the two big things. So kind of forward

931
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,000
thinking of cash flow in that regard.

932
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,200
» Okay. Thank you. Then you're

933
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,680
recommending a 10ear

934
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,079
» I am.

935
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800
» Okay.

936
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:19,839
» And based on the the replacement cycle

937
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,040
of that particular vehicle 12 um I think

938
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,079
that makes

939
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,240
» Exact for 10.

940
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:28,359
» Yeah.

941
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,359
» Any questions for city?

942
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,560
» Mr. Mayor, I move that the service city

943
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,160
commission adopt the resolution

944
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,320
authorizing installment purchase

945
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,920
agreement as presented. So we have a

946
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,880
motion

947
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:47,241
second in support. All in favor?

948
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:48,960
» I opposed. So move. Thank you. Sing.

949
00:38:47,241 --> 00:38:50,880
[snorts]

950
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,119
Next on the agenda is the airport access

951
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,480
road and terminal parking lot. Mr. Tom's

952
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:57,480
course. Welcome Tom.

953
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,720
» Evening mayor commission. Uh included in

954
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:07,359
your packet is

955
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:10,640
the contract for

956
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:12,160
redoing the airport terminal access road

957
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,720
and

958
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:20,000
parking lot.

959
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:23,760
Uh it's a real easy read. Um

960
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,887
city's cost is $0. This is 95.

961
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,680
» Say no more. No, I'm just kidding.

962
00:39:25,887 --> 00:39:32,560
[laughter]

963
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:35,599
It's uh 95% uh federal monies and 5%

964
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:38,160
state. So uh the commission approved

965
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:40,160
back in April of 25

966
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,440
contract engineering

967
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,880
with Hunt. And so this is what's

968
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040
included in your packet is the

969
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,200
infrastructure investment jobs act or

970
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,119
Aisha grant

971
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:56,880
to do that project. So I am

972
00:39:53,119 --> 00:40:00,640
our budget is $196,324.

973
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:04,720
We're estimated bids came in low. It was

974
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,480
bid out earlier this spring. Um

975
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:10,000
and so we're sitting right around

976
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:13,040
$104,000 at $48

977
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,640
for the project cost. And the plan is

978
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,000
spring of 207

979
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,440
because we didn't we weren't for sure

980
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,640
when the monies were going to be

981
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,760
released.

982
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,240
So, we've already determined spring of

983
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,560
27 is our construction season for this

984
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:32,000
project. But what I'm need from

985
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:36,160
commission tonight is your approval to

986
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:40,920
allow me to sign the documents as part

987
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,920
one of the grant asurances.

988
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:45,599
» Okay. Any questions for Tom?

989
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,440
» Just a quick question, Tom. This was

990
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,200
projected at 196. It's going to cost

991
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,200
104.

992
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,960
And this is fully funded by other

993
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,880
sources.

994
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,240
Where does that extra money go to?

995
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,400
» Can we use it for other things?

996
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:04,319
» Yes, we can apply. We can add to the

997
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,960
project or use the funds on another

998
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:09,760
project. I'll have three years another

999
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,920
three years to use those funds

1000
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,000
» Towards another project. And I have more

1001
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,440
projects coming up.

1002
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,839
» Like a a taxi way on Wel Street.

1003
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,119
Absolutely not. I'm sorry. Just

1004
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:23,599
checking. [laughter]

1005
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,280
» I I have there's uh strict grant

1006
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:28,440
assurances and those were included in

1007
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,440
your packet.

1008
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:38,000
Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturgeis City

1009
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Commission approve the Michigan

1010
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,400
Department of Transportation for

1011
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act

1012
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,800
grant for rehabilitation of the Kers

1013
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,920
Municipal Airport access road and

1014
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,920
terminal parking lot in the amount of

1015
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920
196,324

1016
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,079
and authorize airport manager Tom

1017
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:01,280
Sakorski to sign all necessary

1018
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,599
documents.

1019
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,079
» So, we have a motion

1020
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,240
Second

1021
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,000
» And support. All in favor? I

1022
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,400
» Opposed. So move.

1023
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
» Thank you.

1024
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,480
» Thank you, Tom.

1025
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,200
» Next on the agenda is the Sergis Young

1026
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,200
entryway project, Mr. Dan Rut. Welcome,

1027
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Dan.

1028
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,839
Thank you. Good evening, mayor,

1029
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:28,400
commissioners. Um as of as at the March

1030
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:30,720
9th uh regular commission meeting uh

1031
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,480
commission uh staff presented the bids

1032
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:34,880
for replacing the interior and exterior

1033
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,800
entry doors and windows at the Sturgis

1034
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,800
Young Center for the Arts uh on the

1035
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,400
front of the building. Uh along with

1036
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,760
budgets for structural steel electrical

1037
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,839
and sopet restoration um commission

1038
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,200
approved the uh bid from reliable glass

1039
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:51,359
installers and they were awarded the

1040
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,119
project in the in the amount of $94,470.

1041
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:55,839
structural steel work estimate was also

1042
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:59,440
included uh in the budget cost

1043
00:42:55,839 --> 00:43:02,480
spreadsheet for that project. Uh and the

1044
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,240
information on included in that budget

1045
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,160
was provided by uh the structural

1046
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:08,480
engineer who had reviewed the original

1047
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,440
drawings of the building.

1048
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Um the project was scheduled and

1049
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,640
determined with uh the plan was to

1050
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,839
remove the interior set of doors so that

1051
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,400
we could review uh and and

1052
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:24,560
verify the structural steel information.

1053
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,319
The interior doors were removed uh third

1054
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,000
week of May. It was then determined that

1055
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:30,640
the ceiling would need to be removed in

1056
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,720
the areas of the airlock and just part

1057
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,520
of the interior ceiling to get a better

1058
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:37,760
look at that existing structural steel.

1059
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,359
Once ceiling uh was open, the structural

1060
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,720
steel supplier visited the site and it

1061
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:42,240
was determined shortly after that the

1062
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,480
original documents provided by the

1063
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,560
structural engineer for the installation

1064
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,240
of two new steel columns in place of the

1065
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,400
existing three was not going to work

1066
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,680
based on the original steel framing, how

1067
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,560
the original steel framing was

1068
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,480
installed. Uh staff then reached out to

1069
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,880
a structural engineer to determine the

1070
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,960
appropriate course of action. Uh that

1071
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,359
structural engineer site visit took took

1072
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,200
place on July 23rd.

1073
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:08,720
uh new engineered documents were

1074
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,280
provided uh to staff on July 28th. All

1075
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:13,119
addition an additional steel beam and

1076
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,599
different columns were specified as part

1077
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:18,400
of this new process.

1078
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,480
Uh and it would be necessary now to

1079
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,880
remove the existing steel columns

1080
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,160
obviously to place the new beam

1081
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,000
requiring us to shore the roof up to

1082
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,560
hold things up in the while the other

1083
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,560
work took place.

1084
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,119
uh

1085
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,280
staff reached out to Frederick

1086
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:39,839
Construction uh for assistance with this

1087
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,359
scope of work. Uh Fred Frederick then

1088
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:44,400
reached out to the structural engineer

1089
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:47,040
along with the uh steel erector

1090
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,960
uh to provide a complete scope of work

1091
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,400
for that for that work that was

1092
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:54,160
necessary. The breakdown

1093
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,359
provided by Federal Construction can be

1094
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,839
found in the bid packet. Uh the doors,

1095
00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:01,440
let's see.

1096
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:03,520
Oh, along with the timeline to complete

1097
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,359
the project would be they they estimated

1098
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,800
that they would have new structural

1099
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:08,800
steel would be installed. We'd be ready

1100
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,760
for the glass installers around the

1101
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,920
first week of October.

1102
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Um and then the new windows would be

1103
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,319
installed thereafter.

1104
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,440
As with uh all other projects that the

1105
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:21,520
city has worked with Frederick

1106
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,680
Construction on, any unused portion of

1107
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,480
their contract would be credited back

1108
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,680
toward and not build uh to us to the

1109
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,359
city of Sturgis in the final billing. Um

1110
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,720
staff's requesting the approval for the

1111
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:34,319
for the proposal from Frederick

1112
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,839
Construction to provide o uh

1113
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:37,520
construction oversight, completion of

1114
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:39,920
the additional demolition, shoring and

1115
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,599
foundation work and restoration of the

1116
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680
interior ceilings and finishes to

1117
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:46,446
complete this project in the amount of

1118
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,160
$55,453.

1119
00:45:46,446 --> 00:45:49,839
[snorts]

1120
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Uh the additional work will put the

1121
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:55,760
overall project over budget uh by about

1122
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,280
$41,888.

1123
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,599
Uh and that can be seen in the budget

1124
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,760
cost worksheet as well. Funds to cover

1125
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:03,599
this overage will come from the Franks

1126
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,240
fund donation for repairs to the Sturish

1127
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,240
Young Center for the Arts.

1128
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,599
» Any questions?

1129
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,520
» Any questions for Dan?

1130
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:18,720
» One.

1131
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,960
» Thank you, Dan. Um, in the proposal,

1132
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:23,520
the very end of it has I I noticed

1133
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,440
there's no like contingency budget

1134
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,319
contingency in this particular one here,

1135
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:32,880
» Right? Is that what their overhead and

1136
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:34,400
profits of 15% is? That's in their quote

1137
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,920
» That it No, that wouldn't be the

1138
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,000
contingency. That's actually just their

1139
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,880
overhead and profit. That's their their

1140
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,000
That's the cost of their service.

1141
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,440
» Okay. So, we don't anticipate any

1142
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,680
additional once we start taking

1143
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,440
» I don't think so. I think based on all

1144
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,760
the conversations that have taken place

1145
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,760
thus far,

1146
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,560
we we feel pretty good about it.

1147
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960
All right. Cool.

1148
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,880
» As with a any building that's, you know,

1149
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,119
75 years old, we run into these kind of

1150
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,240
things.

1151
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,640
» That's why I wonder if

1152
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:06,560
» Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't

1153
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,839
include a contingency. I I'm never going

1154
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,880
to bring another project without a

1155
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:11,880
contingency. I can tell you that.

1156
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,560
» Any other questions for Dan?

1157
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,319
» Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturgeist

1158
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,000
City Commission approve the proposal

1159
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:21,422
from Federate Construction for

1160
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,800
construction oversight and

1161
00:47:21,422 --> 00:47:25,040
[clears throat] labor for demolition,

1162
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,800
shoring, foundation, and restoration

1163
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,000
with the Sturgeist Young Center for the

1164
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Arts in the amount of $55,453.

1165
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,400
» So, we have a [clears throat] motion

1166
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:38,079
support. All in favor?

1167
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,520
» I oppose.

1168
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:43,000
» So, move. Thank you, Dan.

1169
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
» Yep. Thank you.

1170
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,560
Moving on to commissioner staff

1171
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
comments. [clears throat] We'll go ahead

1172
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,839
and start with S.

1173
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,640
» None for tonight. Thank you,

1174
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:57,119
» Mr. Rhodess. Uh, next meeting, uh, we'll

1175
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,880
cover a IFC application for Summit

1176
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,400
Polymers if you've driven over there.

1177
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,920
It's it's a bigger building than it used

1178
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,920
to be. Uh, so they're going to do that.

1179
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,839
So, at 4 PM, we'll send out an

1180
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,960
appointment, but uh, if you have the

1181
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:10,640
time, you can see what they did.

1182
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,079
» Got like a tour and stuff. Yeah, just

1183
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,520
tour the facility.

1184
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,280
» When is that? When's that going to be?

1185
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,960
» Uh, right before the next meeting. So,

1186
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,400
we'll do that 4 p.m. What's that? The

1187
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,480
9th, I think.

1188
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,960
» Yeah, September 9th.

1189
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,680
» Okay. But we'll send an appointment.

1190
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,000
» That's it.

1191
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,599
» Okay. Chris, you have anything?

1192
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,599
» Yeah, I just can't get an update. Uh,

1193
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:31,680
substation is moving along with

1194
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:36,000
construction, but also with battery

1195
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,079
storage project. They did receive uh

1196
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,640
loan documents from USDA and those have

1197
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:45,839
been assigned by the developer. Uh they

1198
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,880
are finalizing the construction loan as

1199
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:51,359
we speak in hopes of ordering materials

1200
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,200
for the battery energy storage project

1201
00:48:51,359 --> 00:48:55,680
that we'll be having. I have not got a

1202
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,880
timeline uh as far as when they

1203
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:02,000
anticipate that to be online but

1204
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,400
hopefully next year is a plan. So things

1205
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,599
are coming together. Uh also as an

1206
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:10,079
update on the the generator project, the

1207
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:12,800
first payment has been made as you all

1208
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:16,079
have seen. Uh so those are on order.

1209
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:19,839
Those are anticipated to be here uh in

1210
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:23,359
May. Uh those units on site. So they are

1211
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:26,400
we're working through um now getting the

1212
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:29,119
site ready and prepped and the building

1213
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,680
permit executed so we can hopefully

1214
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:37,040
start construction on that this fall

1215
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:39,359
that will go to that next year.

1216
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,400
» Okay. You don't have an update on the

1217
00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:43,599
solar farm. I seen some trucks and

1218
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,200
personnel out there on

1219
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:47,040
» Yes, they've been working on that. Uh

1220
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,359
they they got on it pretty quick after

1221
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,440
the storm. Okay. Uh we do and are

1222
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:51,680
receiving power from both fields now.

1223
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Okay.

1224
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,760
» Uh not nearly as much as we were but

1225
00:49:53,520 --> 00:50:01,040
about six megawatt the 15. So they're

1226
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:04,160
about 15% or 50% sorry. Uh they are

1227
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:06,319
working uh with insurance company. It

1228
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:10,240
was an insurance claim. Uh just trying

1229
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:14,880
to get the pieces and parts together

1230
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:17,440
made. Um they will be uh installing some

1231
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,960
new trackers on there. Hopefully uh

1232
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,800
beginning some of the the issues that

1233
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,440
we've seen with characters. Obviously,

1234
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,839
it looks in quite disarray now. I don't

1235
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,319
know exactly which lines are working,

1236
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:29,680
which ones aren't. I anticipate the ones

1237
00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:32,640
that are moving or the ones that are

1238
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,920
from power. So, but they are working on

1239
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,119
that. Uh I would say, you know, they

1240
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,760
haven't told us when they they

1241
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:43,040
anticipate it to be uh fully operational

1242
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,839
again, but I would anticipate if they do

1243
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,480
um hopefully shorter than that. I'm

1244
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:48,960
assuming from

1245
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,000
» Okay.

1246
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,400
» Y

1247
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,880
» Thank you Will. You got anything

1248
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,000
tonight?

1249
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,599
» Just to tag off the solar. So the

1250
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,920
planning commission has been asking for

1251
00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:01,280
a monthly update from the solar group.

1252
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:04,319
Okay. Chris and I have been meeting with

1253
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,640
them the week prior trying to understand

1254
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:08,880
what they've

1255
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,160
been providing an update to the planning

1256
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,880
commission and then every other month

1257
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,640
we're asking green back who are the

1258
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,839
owners of the solar site to come and

1259
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,839
provide an update to the planning

1260
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:18,839
commission.

1261
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Oh, okay. Great.

1262
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,640
» Okay, Dan,

1263
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,200
» Couple things. Uh, if you're curious

1264
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:30,880
about the vehicle charging station, we

1265
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,839
are seeing every month. We're seeing the

1266
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:37,400
number of individual or different users

1267
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:37,400
by almost double

1268
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:41,319
but

1269
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680
33

1270
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,680
that also exceeded the number of

1271
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,680
different

1272
00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:01,920
placing the city hall sign up front. Um

1273
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:06,160
got a rendering there.

1274
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:11,280
Um this is about what we want not

1275
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:14,640
exactly you know the idea I guess um

1276
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:17,920
based on what the fire is public or

1277
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,160
something similar modern time if he did

1278
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,319
anything probably increase the city a

1279
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,319
little bit.

1280
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,880
Um I know there was question about Let

1281
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,599
me follow that up. The cost of the sign

1282
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:39,200
is about $16,000

1283
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:41,920
is signed till

1284
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:46,079
evening. Um

1285
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:49,319
and we received about 11,000 I believe

1286
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:49,319
about $1,000.

1287
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,040
We had we did incur about $4,100

1288
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,480
the old wall foundation.

1289
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Um question about electronic messaging

1290
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,000
sign

1291
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:17,760
uh possibility. I mean, it's always a

1292
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,640
possibility. I guess I based on what we

1293
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,319
paid for the auditorium electronic

1294
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,000
sign

1295
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:27,119
cost for that sign today would probably

1296
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:29,760
be around $35,000

1297
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:32,867
this month.

1298
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,867
They're pretty salty. [clears throat]

1299
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,480
We have options.

1300
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,359
I would think that the message sign

1301
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,000
would make that intersection awful busy.

1302
00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:52,800
Message signs.

1303
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,240
» Yeah,

1304
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,920
» School have one as well.

1305
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:57,839
» No, they used to

1306
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,280
» That's gone now. Okay. I thought there

1307
00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:02,440
was one over there still. I was like on

1308
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,440
three sides.

1309
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,839
» That's been gone that long. [laughter]

1310
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,319
» Shows you how much I paid attention.

1311
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:14,800
Uh, so we got $11,000 from an insurance

1312
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:15,359
company for that old wall that was

1313
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,040
there.

1314
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:19,599
» Yeah. Because because of the way it was

1315
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:22,592
constructed, it was

1316
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:24,612
spent a lot wow.

1317
00:54:22,592 --> 00:54:24,612
[snorts]

1318
00:54:29,797 --> 00:54:31,817
[snorts]

1319
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,240
» Yeah.

1320
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,440
» I think the lighted sign would be a good

1321
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:41,040
idea.

1322
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,119
the LED sign or

1323
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,079
» That sign the LED the message board

1324
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:47,359
sign.

1325
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:49,440
» That was that was my question because uh

1326
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:52,640
it would be a good idea just just for

1327
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,040
the sake of announcing meetings and

1328
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,040
things like that because I I looked in

1329
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,928
our website

1330
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,599
there was no place in there that

1331
00:54:59,928 --> 00:55:03,760
[clears throat] give the agenda or

1332
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:06,559
anything like that. It did announce the

1333
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,240
date but it never said anything about an

1334
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:10,559
agenda or anything. At least that could

1335
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:13,599
you could announce the date. The library

1336
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,920
could use it for their special events.

1337
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:18,079
» And there's no better time to do it than

1338
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,599
now when the other ones tore out.

1339
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:23,760
» And we could use it for overflow of

1340
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:25,040
attendees here at city hall. If it fills

1341
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,040
up, they can sit outside and watch it

1342
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,359
live.

1343
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,359
» We need bring in [laughter]

1344
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:32,000
bring bring in the fire truck with the

1345
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:32,960
big TV.

1346
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,319
» That's what we need.

1347
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:40,520
» That's like how you do

1348
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:40,520
» Obviously messaging sign.

1349
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,280
You can only ask

1350
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,720
seconds

1351
00:55:58,223 --> 00:56:00,243
[snorts]

1352
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:07,200
we would have to commission.

1353
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:10,880
It's possible.

1354
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:15,119
» That'd be nice. I just I just bought a

1355
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:17,599
two by eight uh two of them LED signs

1356
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,559
for my office. So,

1357
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:22,480
I didn't spend that much, but uh but

1358
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:24,400
yeah, I I think a messaging sign would

1359
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,960
be kind of great, but leave that up to

1360
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,760
you, Doug. I guess. something.

1361
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,400
» I think uh mayor and commissioners, why

1362
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,640
don't you give Dan and I the opportunity

1363
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,839
to look into this a little bit further,

1364
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:40,559
firm up some costs and uh bring back

1365
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:43,440
some conceptual designs

1366
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:45,520
um before we were to move. And again, if

1367
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,520
we were to decide to go that route, we

1368
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,799
would have to incur the approvals of the

1369
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,280
planning commission.

1370
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:53,520
» Yeah.

1371
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,640
» Okay. Thanks, Dan, for the update. have

1372
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,200
to look at it.

1373
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,880
» Wouldn't that be an M do thing?

1374
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,960
» I thought we had to go through that with

1375
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,440
students.

1376
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,280
» No,

1377
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,920
» We didn't. Okay. I thought we did.

1378
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,720
» Don't give many ideas.

1379
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,880
» Yeah. No, [clears throat] this should

1380
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,880
give us

1381
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:20,119
» Share.

1382
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:34,640
I mean, they might they might benefit

1383
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,200
from it, too. Be able to put their

1384
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,680
events on there. You know,

1385
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,040
» You work

1386
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,599
» Give us the opportunity to look into it.

1387
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,720
» All right.

1388
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:45,200
» Thank you.

1389
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,839
» Anything else, Dan?

1390
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,559
» Tom, you have anything?

1391
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:53,200
» No. Brandon, you have anything?

1392
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:54,400
» Anything from public safety?

1393
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,200
» Mike,

1394
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,599
» Not tonight.

1395
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,880
» Not tonight. No. No. Go U of M football

1396
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:02,675
coming up in couple weeks.

1397
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,160
» That just goes without saying.

1398
00:58:02,675 --> 00:58:05,950
[laughter]

1399
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,599
Anything from our city attorneys?

1400
00:58:05,950 --> 00:58:08,880
[clears throat] Not tonight. Thank you.

1401
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:12,799
Our city manager.

1402
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:15,200
» Uh we attended a several meetings. Uh

1403
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:17,440
the airport advisory committee. Uh Tom

1404
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,440
and I met last night. Had a really good

1405
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,720
meeting with them. Went through some

1406
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,240
proposed um hanger sites and some

1407
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,920
discussion.

1408
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:31,920
uh the attended a community foundation

1409
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:34,960
and then of course uh the uh Sturgis

1410
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Young Center for the Arts. Um we're

1411
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:40,079
looking for a new director. We're

1412
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:45,839
advertising. Um

1413
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:47,760
Richard and I uh uh attended uh their uh

1414
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:50,960
advisory board meeting. That was a very

1415
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,480
good meeting that we had. Um and that's

1416
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,559
about it.

1417
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:58,799
» Okay. Thank you, Commissioner ABS.

1418
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:01,040
» Yes. Um, just want to make the comment

1419
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:02,880
that I'm certainly I'm sure all of us

1420
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,160
are very grateful the Frankstone picked

1421
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,119
up the difference.

1422
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,559
» Yes.

1423
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:12,599
» For SYCA 41,000 I believe.

1424
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:12,599
» Well, they

1425
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:19,559
last year

1426
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,559
part of that money

1427
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:23,799
that

1428
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,640
is huge.

1429
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,400
» It's huge. Um, speaking of J, it just

1430
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,960
hit me as I was thinking of all the

1431
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,720
things going on here and hearing

1432
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,000
different people short in time and

1433
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:42,720
projects and looking at Satie going, do

1434
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,160
we have something out for HR director?

1435
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,000
You would not know.

1436
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:51,119
» No. um

1437
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:54,240
we are looking at a total

1438
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:56,799
we're always looking at improving our

1439
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:00,880
process. We're always looking at our

1440
00:59:56,799 --> 01:00:06,160
needs. Um there are things that concern

1441
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:11,920
me and I I um for example um today Ryan

1442
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:17,440
had informed me that in fiscal year uh

1443
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:19,520
25 we had 188 ambulance runs.

1444
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:24,240
» We haven't even finished this fiscal

1445
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:27,680
year and we're at uh two

1446
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:31,040
188 last year. We're at 218 right now

1447
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:34,559
and we haven't finished that. So, it

1448
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:37,920
lends me to believe that um we want to

1449
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:40,480
keep our options open. Um I think we're

1450
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:44,720
already down an officer.

1451
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Uh I'm not convinced what's going to be

1452
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:50,799
the requirement for an ambulance in the

1453
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:54,079
near future. And that the public safety

1454
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:57,280
aspect of what we do is paramount. that

1455
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:58,880
that's number one for our citizens.

1456
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,920
So,

1457
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,880
there are other areas of the city that

1458
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,559
um when we hear complaints from our

1459
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,040
citizens, why aren't you doing this, why

1460
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:13,040
are you doing that? We're trying our

1461
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:15,920
best to address those needs. And Tom's

1462
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,799
uh particular case, he is looking at

1463
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:21,760
adding um at least two and a half more

1464
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:24,160
people. Um we're down two and a half

1465
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,359
people. So, we want to make sure that

1466
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,440
we're competitive there. Um, we're

1467
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:32,960
looking at hiring another building

1468
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,880
inspector so we can accelerate some of

1469
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:38,319
the inspection

1470
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:44,400
that need to take place. Um, I think

1471
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:47,680
Chris is okay for right now. Uh, but um,

1472
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,599
and I think we're okay, but again, in

1473
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,920
the areas of public safety, this is

1474
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:53,760
where we're concerned.

1475
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,799
Plus the fact that we're going to

1476
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,040
probably start experiencing retirements

1477
01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:03,359
next year.

1478
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:05,599
That is also a major concern of mine. Um

1479
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:07,200
we have we have great employees, great

1480
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:12,400
staff,

1481
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:15,280
but it we are going to be probably short

1482
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:18,000
in trying to meet our citizens needs and

1483
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,119
that is a concern. So, going back to

1484
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,520
your original question, an HR director,

1485
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:27,119
um, right now we have Tracy in there,

1486
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:30,880
um, as our payroll clerk and handling

1487
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:33,440
HR, uh, to a certain extent. Um, the

1488
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,520
rest of it is filled in by the

1489
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,799
department heads, myself, and of course,

1490
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,799
Julie. So, that's where we're at on

1491
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:42,880
that. So, I hope that you can all

1492
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:46,319
appreciate that we're trying to be

1493
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,319
strategic in who we hire and where we're

1494
01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:49,319
hiring.

1495
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,359
» Just to ask about that, Doug, when

1496
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,839
you're talking about um shortage, I know

1497
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:58,480
they're Tom short couple out there and

1498
01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:01,599
you said at least was down one.

1499
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:05,119
» Um I believe they're down at least one

1500
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:08,079
officer and um

1501
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:10,799
» They are one one had left one left.

1502
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:11,599
They're in the hiring process for

1503
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:14,640
» Refilling them.

1504
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:17,119
» We talked to him at some point about

1505
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,200
um what's coming up and in that

1506
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,000
department and director Bazic had

1507
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,960
mentioned wanting to start fishing out

1508
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,280
for pulling in uh people.

1509
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,559
» Oh,

1510
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,440
» Whenever they're available. Is that

1511
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,160
still our

1512
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,720
» So, our philosophy is we're not going to

1513
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,280
wait. We're going to be proactive. If we

1514
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,200
identify a candidate that meets our

1515
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,000
qualifications,

1516
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,480
um my orders are bring them in.

1517
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,280
» Okay,

1518
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:46,000
» Bring them in. Let's enhance the cadet

1519
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,640
program. Let's identify those potential

1520
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,440
candidates because

1521
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:54,079
next year from what we have found, our

1522
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,880
employment census would indicate that

1523
01:03:54,079 --> 01:04:00,240
we're in line for a lot of retirees to

1524
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:03,119
leave. Not that they will and hope

1525
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,839
hopefully they won't, but we have to be

1526
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:09,280
prepared to deal with that. And so

1527
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:10,640
that's that that's Ryan and I are on the

1528
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,559
same page with that

1529
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,200
» With with the hospital closure and

1530
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:17,680
additional ambulance stuff. Are we doing

1531
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:20,720
the same on that side of the building?

1532
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,319
» Right. Are we looking actively for any

1533
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,160
more bodies right now or are we still

1534
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:26,480
kind of waiting to see how things

1535
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,640
» I think the idea is that if we could

1536
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,280
identify somebody, yeah, we would bring

1537
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,319
them in

1538
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,680
» Or fire.

1539
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:36,799
» Yes. Um but again, part of the problem

1540
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:40,160
is what we've seen in all the trades

1541
01:04:36,799 --> 01:04:42,400
everywhere is there is a severe shortage

1542
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,599
of those qualified

1543
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,760
and so it it's a concern. So, if we

1544
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:51,440
identify somebody knowing that we're

1545
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,920
going to see retirements, I I told Ryan,

1546
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,720
let's seize the opportunity. If they

1547
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,480
meet the qualifications and can meet the

1548
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,920
clearances, yes,

1549
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,480
» I was making sure that was still the

1550
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:04,400
focus.

1551
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:06,799
» Yes, it needs to.

1552
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,119
So,

1553
01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:12,119
Commissioner Abs

1554
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,119
good.

1555
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:18,160
Commissioner Wiki, nothing.

1556
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:21,760
Commission tonight. Commissioner B.

1557
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:25,200
Nothing tonight. Commissioner,

1558
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:28,799
» Today is probably the most important day

1559
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:33,920
in the history of human evolution.

1560
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:35,920
Today is National Toilet Paper Day.

1561
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,880
Paper has been around since the 7th

1562
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:42,400
century BC, but the first recorded of it

1563
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,480
use of it cleaning people's backsides

1564
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,880
after they used the bathroom was in the

1565
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,039
sixth century. Before then, there was a

1566
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,119
variety of solutions employed to handle

1567
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:53,359
the job.

1568
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:55,839
In ancient Rome, there was a communal

1569
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:58,160
stick with a sponge on the end of it

1570
01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:59,920
that people used to clean themselves.

1571
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,839
When one person was done with it, they'd

1572
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:05,415
simply rinse it off for the next person.

1573
01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:07,200
Wow.

1574
01:06:05,415 --> 01:06:09,345
[clears throat]

1575
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,920
» What was that? Other solutions included.

1576
01:06:09,345 --> 01:06:11,200
[laughter]

1577
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,680
» You got

1578
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:16,079
» Other solutions included rags, bamboo,

1579
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,079
and even corn cobs.

1580
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:20,240
So, let's all be thankful today,

1581
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:22,445
» Commissioner Smith. That is a concern

1582
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,960
shared by this administration, too.

1583
01:06:22,445 --> 01:06:25,960
[laughter]

1584
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,960
» Yes.

1585
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,880
Thank you.

1586
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:32,319
» Thanks, Mayor.

1587
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,520
» All right. Um, it was also National Dog

1588
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:34,640
Day from what I understand. I thought

1589
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,480
that's where you were going to go and I

1590
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,559
didn't realize there was another

1591
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,400
national day today. So, thanks for the

1592
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:44,480
humor. Uh,

1593
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:46,480
» Downtown tree false bakery. Um, there

1594
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,480
was a solution and they're very, very

1595
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,680
happy about it.

1596
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,799
» Are there more removals, things like

1597
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,559
that going to happen with trees

1598
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:58,400
downtown?

1599
01:06:54,559 --> 01:07:00,720
» So, here's what we're doing. Um, and

1600
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,839
just to give our citizens a brief

1601
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,680
history,

1602
01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:06,160
» When

1603
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,559
the state of Michigan gave us downtown

1604
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:11,039
development authorities and the concept

1605
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:13,359
started in the late60s

1606
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:18,240
and continues,

1607
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:20,319
the idea was to add trees green in urban

1608
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,160
environments.

1609
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:25,359
Those trees that we've planted have

1610
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:28,079
reached a certain maturity point.

1611
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:30,559
and talking to to um our DDA

1612
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:33,839
administrator today. What we're going to

1613
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:37,839
do is start looking at other communities

1614
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:39,920
to see what the trend is today. It might

1615
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:43,440
not be trees. It could be decorative

1616
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:45,039
grasses or some other type of uh floral

1617
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,720
plantings.

1618
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,680
One of the things that we are going to

1619
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,920
look at is the science. Um we're going

1620
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:55,119
to ask all of our property owners

1621
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:56,799
downtown what their thoughts are. um

1622
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:59,599
where we need to go. There's other

1623
01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:02,160
varieties of trees we need to stay on

1624
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:04,799
top. But the tree that we took down in

1625
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:09,119
front of Holtz Bakery probably was

1626
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:12,119
probably close to 40 years old.

1627
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:12,119
» No,

1628
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,920
» No, we just planted that.

1629
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,719
» I think they were that was then that

1630
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,640
would have been a very mature planting

1631
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:22,400
because we usually plant within two to

1632
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,080
four inches.

1633
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,040
If you take a look at the stump out

1634
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,440
there, it's close to a foot.

1635
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,120
» Wow.

1636
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:31,199
» I thought all the trees were put in when

1637
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,560
the road was done. I mean, maybe not. I

1638
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,400
don't remember.

1639
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:38,159
» Definitely. It went in in 2005.

1640
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,520
» 2005, I thought.

1641
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:43,040
» About 20 years old.

1642
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:46,159
» All right. 20 years. So, I guess the the

1643
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:49,839
thing is when we plant something, we

1644
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:52,480
expect it to mature and it did. And it

1645
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:55,040
got to a point where maybe we should

1646
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:59,040
have done a better job of trimming it,

1647
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:02,159
whatever. But the fact is trees mature.

1648
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,920
So what we need to do is work with our

1649
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:06,319
property owners and the downtown

1650
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,520
development authority

1651
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:12,560
to find out what is the latest trend to

1652
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:16,799
help bring in businesses into our urban

1653
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:19,040
downtown. So I I I I do believe we'll

1654
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:20,880
use good science and find out what the

1655
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,120
standard practices are in other

1656
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,239
communities.

1657
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,839
» Very good.

1658
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:29,199
» Thank you. Well, I know I know that

1659
01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:30,640
Folson was very happy um that we now

1660
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:32,719
have visibility and I hope it does

1661
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,000
increase the traffic like they hope.

1662
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:38,880
» We did we did talk to uh the owners in

1663
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,520
that block um asking them what their

1664
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:43,279
thoughts were. So there was some science

1665
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,000
and

1666
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:47,520
if you if you remember they did present

1667
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,239
a

1668
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,960
pretty strong financial and scientific

1669
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:54,400
case for its removal.

1670
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,000
So,

1671
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:59,040
» Other than that, just shout out to Will

1672
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,600
and his department for we got a nice

1673
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:04,080
little thing that Doug shared with us on

1674
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,600
a compliment you guys received from I

1675
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,239
don't remember who it was, but it was it

1676
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:10,159
was a very very nice worded message from

1677
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:12,320
someone that how pleasant you guys were

1678
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:13,920
to work with and how uh how how good you

1679
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,760
guys were at your job.

1680
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,640
Um, and Tom, same thing with you guys

1681
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:22,320
out there in DB, WDPS, whatever you want

1682
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:24,400
to call it now. Um, with the cleanup,

1683
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,320
um, there's been a few people that I've

1684
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,000
talked to that are very happy that you

1685
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,679
guys were able to help them out in the

1686
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,800
situation as well. So, thank you guys

1687
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:35,040
for your departments and the work I do.

1688
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:37,280
Um,

1689
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:40,800
I do have one other thing to address to

1690
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:43,280
you. Um,

1691
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,239
we looked at some of the stumps. I

1692
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:48,960
believe Tom, what was there? 12. 12.

1693
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,679
» There's 10.

1694
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,400
» How many?

1695
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:54,000
» 10.

1696
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:55,600
» 10. Um, Tom had informed me that what

1697
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,560
we'll do because some of those stumps

1698
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:01,920
are so big, we don't have an excavator

1699
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:05,120
big enough to remove them. So what we'll

1700
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:09,679
do is we will contract out and probably

1701
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:12,159
in October start removing those stumps

1702
01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:12,800
with a contractor who has an excavator

1703
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:14,000
big enough.

1704
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,280
» Are we talking about just the ones that

1705
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,120
have uproot?

1706
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,800
» Yes.

1707
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,920
The big ones.

1708
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,560
» So

1709
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:25,760
» Very good haven't been uprooted. Our

1710
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:28,760
crews go around.

1711
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,760
So

1712
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:34,159
» Good to be here. Much appreciated.

1713
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,920
» Can we just blast them?

1714
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:37,600
» You can drill it out. Charge the

1715
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,560
dynamite in the center and take little

1716
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,000
pieces. hand.

1717
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,320
» Yeah, blast them.

1718
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,679
» All right.

1719
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,600
» That may be problematic.

1720
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:49,120
» It could [laughter] be about Yeah.

1721
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,440
» All right. I'll I'll end my time with

1722
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,840
this. You're uh you never know how long

1723
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:56,239
your words will stay with in someone's

1724
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,760
mind, even long after you forgot you

1725
01:11:56,239 --> 01:12:00,400
spoke them. So, let's just all be kind

1726
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:03,600
to one another.

1727
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:07,040
All right, it's my turn. Um, yeah. Um,

1728
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:09,600
Tom, I do want to echo uh uh some of the

1729
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:12,239
comments that Vice Mayor Mullen said. I

1730
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,560
I I did get a couple calls from from

1731
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:17,679
folks. Um,

1732
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,280
very pleasant uh with u I don't know if

1733
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:21,679
you went back again to do some more

1734
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,840
cleaning, but very happy that your crew

1735
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:26,480
was out there and and and cleaning that

1736
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:30,960
up. So, kudos to you and your staff. I

1737
01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:33,520
also have a a kudos on on Doug, our city

1738
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,199
manager. Got got a few calls from from

1739
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,480
folks that you're working with, Doug,

1740
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:40,080
and very happy and pleased with you and

1741
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:41,440
um

1742
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,400
so I just want to share that with you.

1743
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,159
Thank you for what you're doing.

1744
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,679
» Was it Anita?

1745
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:47,120
» There was [laughter]

1746
01:12:45,679 --> 01:12:47,760
I don't know if it was her, but

1747
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,320
» Okay.

1748
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:52,719
» There's a couple. Um and then I also

1749
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,760
want to do uh kudos to our police

1750
01:12:52,719 --> 01:13:00,000
department. uh my daughter had a uh an

1751
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:03,760
incident and uh called me wanted me to

1752
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,360
go assist in uh her be go assist her

1753
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,840
before the police got there and I said

1754
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:10,480
no you're you'll be in good hands and

1755
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:15,679
first time accident 17 year old 17 years

1756
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:19,600
old and and uh when I got home I you

1757
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:21,600
know uh did the usual dad thing uh gave

1758
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,640
her a lecture about having an incident

1759
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000
accident And I asked about her

1760
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,480
experience with our police department.

1761
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,679
She said the police officer, she did

1762
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:33,840
give me the name, but I'm bad with

1763
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:36,400
names, uh said that uh he helped calmed

1764
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,719
her down, helped her find her insurance

1765
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:43,280
uh paperwork that was in the glove box.

1766
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:44,239
And as terrified as she was, uh she she

1767
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,199
said, "You probably don't want to hear

1768
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,199
this as that, but I had a good

1769
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:48,320
experience with with the police off with

1770
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:50,800
the police department." Said, "No,

1771
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:53,679
that's great. I I uh that's what our

1772
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,600
guys are for." uh the officer must have

1773
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:58,400
known that you were a fairly young

1774
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,640
driver and and and so he was there to

1775
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,199
you know uh help you in that process. So

1776
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,199
kudos to our police department as well.

1777
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:07,360
Um and with that I hope all of you have

1778
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:10,560
a great uh rest of your work week.

1779
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,560
Meeting the job.