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We want to hand in the issue that you email us about, but we just want to cover it under the zone of your ministry report.

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Yeah, I guess not a way, I'm not sure what's the best way to do it. I guess, I guess we just do it under the zone of your ministry, and you can pull it, okay. I wanted to just add in something to just talk about the VLCT email that I got this week in the ethics training. This required for many roles to see if we need to do that as well.

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Okay, we can put that like make it at 7.5.

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Okay.

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Take a motion to approve the agenda as amended.

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I'll set the motion to approve the agenda as amended.

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I'll second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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approve of the November minutes.

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Been a while, but I did read them.

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I didn't think I had any issue with it.

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I read them but I wasn't here.

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So you don't want to try to have an issue.

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No, I'm not.

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I'll entertain a motion to approve the move in the party.

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I'll make a motion of the number of minutes.

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The rest is here.

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Call my favorite.

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Hi.

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So I've got to print out for you guys. I can read it play by play. I'll try to go really fast.

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It's just status on what I'm up to. So working on six different zoning permits at the moment.

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Two are pending additional follow-up from the applicants.

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ones. One needs a state visit for the wastewater, part of a water permit for their subdivision

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of their land so it can be approved. Another one is just changing their plans that was

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on the original permit. They were going to manufacture another going to build a ranch

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style house instead. So three new applications received pending my follow-up with the applicants

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and then one approved permit just waiting on a certificate of occupancy which I'm reviewing

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because it may not have actually required a permit due to the size of the accessory structure

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but I'm checking into that to see what I need to do with that.

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I've got one E911 address in progress, the applicants out of state, and I need them to

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stake the driveway so I can go measure it.

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And then we've got an E911 address verification of a posted address that's needing review

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that the enhanced 911 board sent to me.

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And then actually the road name review, I did review that with the select board on

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Lund Road and they just confirmed that it was named that by the town. They just

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didn't have any documentation to give to me to provide with the NES 911 board.

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911 board was fine with that. I've got two pending certificates of occupancy

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waiting for the applicant's projects just to be completed in a site visit.

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I've

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continue looking into. Currently I've started looking into the garage construction

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at Miles Pond. I'm spoke with the builder claims all they did was a driveway, a gravel

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driveway, and a concrete pad, and then haven't done anything else since then. So I've got

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the owner's name and the address, and I'm going to be following up with them on that

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status soon. I did some 9-1-1 training from Tyler Hermenson or of our representatives with

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9-1-1 board and he's been continually helping me as I learn that process and I've been

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doing my own self-guided training because usually with each permit that comes in there's

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a rabbit hole to go down on just learning what the process is in regards to their proposed

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use just to make sure that I'm looking into it correctly and then on the next page just

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indicating that you guys you know the select board giving me a 20-hour work week to come

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in and do the work has made it more beneficials, helped me more. Applications, you know, are

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remaining steady. There's not a large amount, but for December, there were three that came

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in and the first few weeks of January, obviously, another three. So count that as a steady application

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coming in. On the pond hearing, obviously, that's still open. I've got another page actually

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behind this one. It's easier if you want to. And it does a quick summary of the upon updates.

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So Dan McCabe, our town attorney, replied to me actually this evening said that he does not believe

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we can require proof of liability insurance on the pond by the owner. But he says basically,

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we could strongly recommend it. Allison Lowe and Jeff McMahon with NVDA are still working on any

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recommendations or guidance to give to us. At the moment, they've recommended using the

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permit navigator either with the applicant or myself just to see what the permitting requirements

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return. I haven't had any follow-up from them in regards to her reference to could it be required

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under dam permitting or not so I'll need to follow up with her just to ask what the status is on her

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opinion on that. And then they gave us several links on private ponds to review and I've got some

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printouts from those links that I can provide later or just email to you guys or email the

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link so you can look at it on your own time and then I just have not had any recent contact

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with any of the parties involved in the hearing.

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And that is referring up to you.

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Do you want to address for the full board the question you had about the London Drive subdivision?

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I can now if you'd like to.

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I had an application come in that I denied because it was from a non-owner, their buyer,

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looking at buying just a small 45 by 90-foot section of someone else's lot that adjoins

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theirs at Miles Pond.

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It's a non-conforming shape for non-conforming lots already.

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I indicated to him the reason for the denial of course was he's not the owner.

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I need the application from the owner first.

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first, and then it's going to need a conditional use review by you guys for a variance because

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of the shape and the non-conforming lots in general.

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I've got some printouts that Jim has in front of him that show the neighbor's lot that's

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going to be selling, and then show what he's proposing to be purchasing, and then just

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the fact that the only portion of the whole thing in question is the time I wrote.

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Yeah, it butts up to one road and it'll give him access to his driveway that

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currently goes across that neighbor's land. There is one small shed on the

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property and it of course won't be able to conform to how close it is to the

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boundary lines for that zone and for like sure. So everything about it would just

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need approval by the board because of the shape of it. So right now it's just a

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we're waiting on it to come back under a new application but I've been doing some

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Q&A just tried to determine what we need to do and the buyer had questions about how

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long the process would take for approval which I said and just you know clips of parts

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of our bylaws that explain that process so let's do it for that.

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Just the gentleman that's reaching out about this small little section of land.

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Yes sir.

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Current heat.

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Clones to this?

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Yes sir.

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Okay.

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So he's trying to buy that little lot of land for access to, but yes, but for better

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matter.

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The application for the subdivision has to come from the owner of the property, and

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that's why Nick.

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Okay.

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That's why I initially did that.

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The people that own this property over here want to subdivide a variety so he can.

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Correct.

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Gotcha.

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So anyway so if he gets that back in that might be something that I can try to get on for a hearing review at the next regular schedule meeting if he's timely enough with it and if not then I'll do it whenever he's meeting the criteria for time getting it to me and me getting it to you guys for review.

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In the by-law pertaining to that is on page 8 and I've read it a couple of times and my

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thought is I'm not really sure why because the application is going to be for the

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sub division, which it's a simple sub division, both properties involved and

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on conforming to begin with so nothing is going to be

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in compliance when it's done just a transfer of property

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whether

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it's right or wrong I'm inclined to think that we could just treat that as a simple

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subdivision

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and there's only a ministry that could approve it.

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Once the request comes from the owner? Yes.

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That seems so interesting to me.

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But, you know, that's maybe one of my old simplification trials here, but what does everybody else think?

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It makes sense to me.

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So, what is the main concern that that little shed is?

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I don't think there's any concern.

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Oh.

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Other than the wordage in the by-law is, to me is a lot of words that don't mean much in a simple little transaction.

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action.

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But I guess what

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would you expect to get that resubmission from the landowner?

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He's going to try to get to me by next week as his plans,

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but they're not even going

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to have a survey done until the spring. So they'll be waiting on that too, so I don't

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know if we'll have a delay just waiting on them to finish their process for the

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need side of it.

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I mean most of that land is pretty odd shaped lots like they're

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not just straight rectangles and so there's a couple others that are cut up

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like that as well. It's actually between the two properties so it's not

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affecting any. It's not like on the outer edge of either one of the properties.

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Okay.

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You can do it all the time to say.

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If no one wants to go to the mall.

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And then the other side is the road.

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Right?

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The other side is the road.

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Yeah.

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So.

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It's not big, man.

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Do you buy what?

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It's going to be .09 acres by the time it's done.

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I have what he's acquiring.

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So less than a tenth.

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It's not that much.

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And I've spoken to the representative for wastewater permitting too.

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and they said that it would just be a boundary line permit for redrawing the boundary lines and they

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just have to look at it and ensure that it doesn't affect the other landowner for where they would

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place a replacement system if their other system failed for wastewater.

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order. I mean, I don't think why we would want the landowner to go through the

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expense of that, you know, a hearing, why the town would want to go through the

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expense of the hearing, with all the notifications and anything, but something

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that unless in the process they make find something concerning, we're going to

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prove it anyway. And maybe that's not the proper way to look at it, but I think it

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It makes sense for me, you know what I mean?

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So I would be fine with a consensus with the board

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that just let it proceed with neck as a minor subdivision

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and let something evolve to cause a concern.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just in fact, any setbacks like you mentioned.

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There's nothing that conforms to anything to begin with.

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So it's not going to affect anything.

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There's nothing that, and it's all grandfathered,

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because all of it was done way before the zoning

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is ever enacted in a way.

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Have you picked your copy of the by-laws?

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I guess I was right there.

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Yeah, P.J. will give you the non-conforming properties.

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And it's not like they want to build anything.

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Yeah, and the wastewater permitting representative didn't think there would be and in the buyer said there's no

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So, I mean, it's not like there's no wastewater systems in play on it, but there's houses

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up there, so I couldn't imagine that they don't have those systems.

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But the representative with ANR, he didn't think that there would be an issue, he just thought

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that it would be a quick review, and then him giving them an exemption to the boundary line

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survey or re-drawing. Yeah, 0.09 acres. And you don't affect anybody either way except

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to just put the driveway on on the guy's deed.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Can we move those minutes back?

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Yeah.

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We're expecting for everyone.

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So, thank you.

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Yeah.

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That's why everybody's good for you.

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Yeah.

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Actually, before we move on, I just had a question about the lady that offered to do a desk

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review on the pond property.

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And you somehow then, you know, asking if we should let that go forward, I guess, or something

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like that.

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Are there any reasons why we wouldn't want to?

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Yeah. I think that's something that Nick would handle. We don't have to. You know, when Nick comes with all the final information, you know, get the engineering report or whatever, then we would make that final decision. I think it was just about. Sorry. I think it was just about, and I'm sorry, I forgot which agency is from, but just about whether or not we should ask for

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to go ahead with the desk review. Does she's from the state? She's a hard-core engineer.

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I'm a core of engineers. So she's often very busy with desk review. I was just curious

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if there were any reasons why we wouldn't want her to do the desk review. I'd like to make

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a comment on this whole thing. Any of this shift we're getting into is going to create problems.

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I think all you need to do is require a landowner to have a certified plotter

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and then it's engineers' problem to look up all that shit.

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We're going to get involved in stuff with nothing,

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any knowledge about them.

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And I just make a suggestion,

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we just ask for the Certified Plan to let this other stuff,

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let the engineers take care of that.

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The engineering report on it.

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Yeah, I agree, 100%.

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Because you're giving them the stuff,

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you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Well, I understand what you're saying.

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I was thinking of it like, excellent, they can do that work.

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Like the Army Corps of Engineers can take that part over, we, I mean it's not, yeah, they

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would be taking it off our plate, like.

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Right.

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We know how to have any liability or anything.

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Yeah.

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And it's all to the land or he gets the plan done, the internews or the Apollo ship, it's

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all square in the way.

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It's much simpler.

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Yeah.

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So

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the moment that I just remained mute on the follow-up with the Army Corps of Engineers

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contact about the desktop review, like no reply to you.

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It's not going to hurt anything if you want to look at it, but I'm not sure.

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Just tell her forward that to the landing.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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You don't need to know just.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't think the windowner has email that he checks off to ask him to follow up with

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him on that.

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He lives off-grid, so I think he said he only checks email once a week if he does check

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email.

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I don't know.

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I don't know that.

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I can give you a mailing address.

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You can mail it.

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I don't know what your choice is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So

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anything else we should come around to item five?

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On your complaints.

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What you've been getting.

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On your complaints that you've been getting.

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Is there anyone who looked into that one on my house on your first one to each drive?

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There's a foundation already put in.

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A bunch of trees already cut down.

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Is that different than the garage one?

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Okay, um, I think maybe you telling me about it might be the only one I've heard so and I haven't looked into that one

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I think I classify those both as the same property in my mind. Okay.

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What's the name of the road again?

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You can try out the beach drive.

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The main you turn on the beach drive.

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Okay.

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Off to the right.

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Okay.

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I've seen something happen to never.

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I didn't know what it was.

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And that's been gone on quite a while.

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Yeah.

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I was planning whether it's good on Friday to drive out that way to do a site visit.

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See if I can get some pictures and just an idea of what's going on.

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That's part of my follow-up with the owners.

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So I'll go down beach as well.

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I guess the main thing in those situations, if somebody has spatted something without a permit, they should have to be goal to stop.

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If they comply fine, if not, they get an issue.

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It's going to be a short-length permit.

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Oh, it is?

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Oh, yeah, that's why.

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That's a big issue.

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I mean, what fairer here, when they get his, they may find him and may put everything back.

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This guy's got a foundation. They'll probably take it out.

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How close is that?

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How close is that? I'm not 100% sure.

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I know it's within 250 feet.

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Well, I've got some printouts on shortly

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that I've been researching too.

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And in some of those, they show the 250 feet,

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but they've got depictions of properties

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within 100 feet of the waterline too.

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So I don't know how well I can get that measure

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or we should just leave that up to them to tell us

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We'll say the shoreline we're really done.

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Is it possible those were grandfathered in

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before there were zoning loss or no?

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We're not familiar with how they say no.

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It has to be a little difficult.

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No, I have a new foundation.

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I was referring to what you were saying.

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It's a size of a lot.

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Well, and some things being within 100 feet,

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and even though the setback or whatnot

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is to do something to the day.

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Once the state started the shoreline, I think.

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Just anything new going forward?

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I think new shore, yeah, understood.

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They've also got controls on how you can take down trees and vegetation and

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management of practices that you have to follow.

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So if I had to do the same thing in shadow lake, they went down and made an access

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to the water line and the state made a make a correction.

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I don't know if they will find it or not.

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So when you've got, if we're going to move on from item five to item six,

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we've got to have a waste here.

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I mean what this is my third maybe fourth meeting second meeting as an alternate

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And it's already a chance to have you getting it over my head by taking the interest

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and being the best chair.

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I guess the only time you would be called upon would be if, basically, I walked two years

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so you would be coming just to run the decking board member anyway to run the meeting.

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The other thing, I mean, I found out that thank God Nick came along because a lot has

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to be done to make sure that we're ready for the meetings.

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Nick has done a great job with the car fondance and the research and making sure everything

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and ready for us, basically administering the zoning.

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And I think that's what we were lacking a few times before that.

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We were looking along.

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Yeah.

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And we're gliding along nicely now so I think that please,

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I'm pretty functional because it's trying.

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I guess I didn't obtain a motion if anybody has a one.

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All

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in favor of Brindan Singh in the last year.

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All right.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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That's what I thought was.

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And very much, my turn is up.

328
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You're not over.

329
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No, he says that.

330
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All right.

331
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I'm ready for training right now on October.

332
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Yeah.

333
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Thank you.

334
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The best way to learn is to get my phone in and out of the car.

335
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Is that the same thing you see in one of the world?

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Where are you at?

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You know?

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Where?

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Not anymore?

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Probably going to rip one.

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Hmm.

342
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But I'll be getting done with something.

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I don't know.

344
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I didn't know until Sue called me.

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You know, stay on or not.

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I'm going to get done with that.

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I just don't plan.

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And I didn't want to get done until it was a replacement.

349
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Right. Which we really have now.

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October.

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Hi.

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Well,

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the date for the next meeting will.

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February 19th.

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February 19th.

356
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You know, that's the nice thing to have on the evidence.

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It is a nice thing to have on there.

358
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You know, you don't have to be calendar, right?

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You don't have to wonder.

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But right now, because if I put it on there,

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and file a school, I'll forget it.

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Time for seven feet.

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Time for seven feet.

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Yes.

365
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Okay.

366
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Meeting once a day.

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I just said that.

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I think we talked about this here, but it may have been somewhere else.

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Are we a quasi-judicial board?

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Yes.

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So top-level managers, legislative board members, members of quasi-judicial boards, and mayors

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must all complete ethics training, such as the ethics commission's 45-minute training video

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by September 30th, right before you get out.

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Viewing it is recommended for the many additional offices that are subject to the new code of ethics, so that sounds like something that we're going to need to do.

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45 minute video.

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00:26:14,730 --> 00:26:17,570
Maybe. I haven't looked into all the details.

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Where can I complete the training? Municipal officers can complete free online municipal ethics training via the link below.

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00:26:26,890 --> 00:26:28,170
Well, I can forward this to everyone.

379
00:26:28,290 --> 00:26:28,530
Okay.

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The training covers the statewide municipal code of ethics, the state ethics commissions

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role in the municipal ethics complaint process, and the services that are available to municipalities

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through the state ethics commission is approximately 45 minutes long.

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00:26:45,050 --> 00:26:49,830
I'm calling up to each sign-in as so they have proof, right?

384
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:52,590
Well, how can I document that I completed the training?

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When you finish the training, you'll be asked to complete a form that asks your name, municipal

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will type out the e-mail address and if you choose the e-mail address of an additional municipal

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contact. It will also ask you to answer some questions to check your understanding of

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the training. Notification e-mail that you have completed the ethics training will then

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be sent to the e-mail addresses you provided. You should save the notification and documentation

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that you have completed the training. So it sounds like we could send a copy to ourselves

391
00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:24,490
and wanted to see where whomever is appropriate so they know that we've done it.

392
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That's fantastic.

393
00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:30,180
Glad I could help.

394
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:42,190
Actually, it's good that you provided that information and we didn't find out the 29th of September.

395
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:46,470
I would have been very bad.

396
00:27:52,330 --> 00:27:53,730
Can you forward that to us?

397
00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:54,510
I am going to.

398
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:54,710
Yes.

399
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:56,290
I'm just copying the link, so.

400
00:27:59,810 --> 00:28:05,150
I just had to think of something. I've been thinking about it off and on. I think we're

401
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supposed to have Zoom available. And our meetings.

402
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,880
Is that part of the open meeting law? Yeah.

403
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:21,140
That's on this email as well. I wasn't going to forward the email. I was just going to forward

404
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:26,980
the link, but I can look into that because there's trainings available. I think it's what

405
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that I saw.

406
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Secretary of State's new open meeting law training

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is available.

408
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,600
Yes, I think something did change January 1.

409
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:38,760
Has to do with recording versus Zoom access versus video

410
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,980
recording maybe, because we have to think about that at work

411
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as well, because we're a municipality.

412
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:49,280
I'll just forward the entire VLCT update to everyone.

413
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If that's OK.

414
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And then that's got info on the open meeting law

415
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and also the ethics training.

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00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:59,620
I don't remember a time that we used to,

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other than maybe when we were doing the,

418
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,080
the upgrade to the plan of the Miloes.

419
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,840
We did not zoom here once.

420
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,220
And I think it was the last, the follow-up

421
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:12,580
to the new town plan or something

422
00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:14,820
because that's it by NBDA, maybe you're someone?

423
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Right.

424
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:15,740
Yeah.

425
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:21,140
But I don't have a clue about how to make that operate.

426
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,880
And I

427
00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:27,500
don't know if anybody does.

428
00:29:29,020 --> 00:29:33,180
I'm experienced with Zoom, I just have to figure out how to get it to work on here and

429
00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:33,940
how we post it.

430
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,060
You can do that?

431
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,140
Yeah, I've done Zoom.

432
00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:39,060
I did it with one of my recruiter jobs for interviews.

433
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:49,620
So then, I guess when the agenda is posted, the information for that contact is supposed to

434
00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:50,440
be with the posting.

435
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:59,980
Yeah, you can schedule a zoom so I just sign up for a free account as planning zoning administrator and then I could schedule it for the evening of the me

436
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,720
Meeting at the time, it's supposed to start, and then just matter of figuring out how we turn it on up here. And I can attach the link as the invite to the agenda. Yeah. Because if we're going to be left up to me, it wouldn't get done. And I don't believe we're going to bring talent business for reaching all just because of that. Just one other thing, Nick. I don't know if this is a requirement or just something that we do, but there's always because we have to post for our meetings.

437
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:37,200
as well and there's always a contact email and phone number at the bottom is someone's having trouble getting in okay okay yeah I could

438
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:45,560
probably just put mine with the zoning admin phone number is there a requirement to record it I haven't read the whole thing okay I mean right now

439
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:53,120
right now I get for the free one maybe 45 minutes yeah we got to cut off let's

440
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,360
I don't know if it's true.

441
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,320
I don't know if it's true.

442
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,700
Well, I want to study zoom if we don't do that.

443
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,180
Like Google meets that that has no limitation.

444
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,540
Time limitation.

445
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,240
Yeah, we could try that too.

446
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:07,740
Or does this sound have a zoom account?

447
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:08,820
Yes, yes.

448
00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:11,220
Yeah, I could find out what season use is.

449
00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:13,960
Oh, yeah, if it's not a free one maybe then.

450
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:17,940
I don't remember any time we met that one.

451
00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:19,340
We have to do it.

452
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:27,240
And they still don't know if they got rid of that during COVID, but our account does that school.

453
00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:28,620
That's what we do.

454
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:29,800
Yeah, okay.

455
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:35,380
Because we'll go through the rulings instead just so we don't have to do another one.

456
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,500
Can I get this in?

457
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,040
Anything new in the other row?

458
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,460
No executive or deliverance?

459
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,700
So moved into a journey?

460
00:31:57,310 --> 00:31:57,790
Only favor.

461
00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:08,250
thank you very much. I'll leave this to you now. And these are the signs.

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00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:13,110
Thank

463
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:13,950
you for having them all ready.

464
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:22,610
Did you? Did I what? Sign? No, I did it. Is that where you're

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Yeah.

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Yeah.