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[0:00] That's right. That's going to be really, really, really, yeah, like to begin. Yeah, afternoon commissioners. So, uh, pretty light agenda today. As usual, we'll go over just really quickly what we have on tonight's consent agenda. Can you guys have any issues or concerns? Um, so just four items, even on our consent agenda tonight. Item A would be to approve the issuance of 2026 licenses for salvager operations. This is
[0:29] need to be able to do. Item B would be to authorize the Western Maryland Strong Fund Agreement
[0:35] on Dendom. This will allow the transfer of administration from social services to the
[0:39] Western Maryland long-term recovery group. We're going to continue obviously in the long-term
[0:44] recovery out there. Item C is the execute and MOU with the Maryland Department of Information
[0:50] Technology at the Tower of Sight-Alone Bishop Walshrave. This will allow them to construct and
[0:55] to maintain communication equipment from Maryland first,
[0:58] statewide public safety applications, no cost to us.
[1:01] And finally, item D would be the re-appointment
[1:04] of Kathy Snyder and David Hall was lay board members
[1:06] when they had any county board of appeals
[1:08] for classified employees.
[1:09] They'll each have a three-year term.
[1:12] Any concerns there?
[1:13] No, sir.
[1:14] No?
[1:15] I guess we'll just incase anyone has
[1:18] and we'll do departmental updates first.
[1:20] Lee, and I'll start with you, Lee, if you want.
[1:22] We had our open meetings and ethics training this afternoon, we had approximately 30 of
[1:32] our employees and board members who attended in person and approximately 20, about 20 more
[1:39] who attended virtually.
[1:42] So good attendance today.
[1:44] We went through just to make sure to provide some information to our boards on compliance
[1:50] with the Open Meeting Act, and then we had Tansi Watson from the State Attorney General's Office.
[1:58] She's Assistant Counsel to the State Ethics Commission.
[2:01] She provided some training and updates to the board members as well on that.
[2:10] So, overall well-attended, think it went well.
[2:16] Good, good.
[2:17] Thank you.
[2:19] Thanks, Lee.
[2:21] Adam, Roger, Christie, and Kakers.
[2:25] I guess George's Creek gang was building.
[2:27] It is a team F between us and public works.
[2:30] But on our end, once the sprinkler system's in,
[2:33] we have all the painting done.
[2:34] The bunk rooms are there.
[2:35] The sink is ready to go.
[2:37] All the radio is in place.
[2:39] We're ready to open up.
[2:41] We have the people aboard.
[2:43] So when are you going to open in, Roger?
[2:46] When the sprinkler system install is complete, which is in progress as we
[2:50] The second week of January maybe.
[2:54] It all depends on when I can get through or in there.
[2:57] Yeah, and what I mean.
[2:58] Right now, we've split the team.
[2:59] I'll make the tap yesterday on the county's waterline.
[3:03] Yeah.
[3:03] And calling that McKenzie have run the waterline into the database.
[3:06] Oh, okay.
[3:12] And with the holidays, it's really hard going up.
[3:16] And I guess the another January.
[3:18] Yeah.
[3:18] Adam, wouldn't there's something done with the sprinkler system before it was either halfway down the board?
[3:24] The worst majority of it is done.
[3:35] And I think the original vendor declined to come back, correct?
[3:39] Yes.
[3:39] I don't really call it that.
[3:42] Good.
[3:44] County engineer?
[3:45] I know he's got a big one.
[3:47] Dan?
[3:47] I'll talk to him in a minute, but no, nothing else.
[4:04] Thank you guys for a chance to just give a brief update on where we're at with this project
[4:09] here.
[4:10] Appreciate President Jones coming from alien college to hear this and just kind of keep
[4:17] showing this good partnership we've had with them so far.
[4:19] or just have a few kind of recaps of what we've done so far
[4:24] and then talk about where we're at
[4:26] and just need kind of some thoughts from you guys on
[4:29] maybe how you'd like to proceed
[4:30] and then we can talk about what the next steps are after that.
[4:36] And in front of you, just kind of,
[4:37] there's two maps in the back of that,
[4:41] just a little list of bullet points there
[4:42] and they kind of show, I guess with the options
[4:45] are we have at this point.
[4:46] Our main goal for this facility overall, as you know, kind of made the first step toward
[4:54] that with the completion of the first day's last fall, our goal would be to have a facility
[4:58] that can be used for outdoor recreation, to have a competitive playing surface for soccer,
[5:05] from the Peewee age all the way up through a collegiate level.
[5:08] We would have to see to determine what field size they would need in order to be able to
[5:12] those different events in a sanctioned type environment,
[5:17] as well as football from Peabee Up Through High School,
[5:20] trying to make the field as multi-use as possible
[5:24] on the turf there that's labeled football soccer field
[5:27] on that map.
[5:28] And then also including some grass fields next to that,
[5:31] but also wanting to be mindful that we have
[5:32] a overall facility that's got usable restrooms,
[5:37] perhaps even a concession stand, storage,
[5:40] adequate parking, spectator areas, lighting, things like that.
[5:44] So I'm going to talk more about that as we go here.
[5:46] The first phase, as I mentioned, was completed last fall through combination of funds from land water and conservation
[5:53] fund through the park service, local parks and playgrounds and program open space.
[5:59] We had a contract with excavating associates and then we also did some work in house.
[6:03] That constructed is the result of all that work.
[6:06] The entrance road into the site, we had an outdoor classroom, a civilian put in 3000 feet
[6:14] or so of a walking trail, the Kinetic Fitness Court which we had a ceremony back in last
[6:20] October to open that up to let the public do a variety of different exercises which maybe
[6:26] they wouldn't have before, but we got a grant for that and it's a neat facility that hopefully
[6:30] we get a lot of use out of when the rest of the facilities built here.
[6:34] We have about 20 parking spaces next to what will be the future turf field and build the first round of storm on our management.
[6:42] The bridge crossing that we put in to get over to the future turf field area was an old rail or a tanker car that we were able to get was a good repurpose of that pretty exciting project.
[6:52] It turned out really well completed with our in house construction crews where we're at now phase two of this project would be everything at least up here on the map that's shown there kind of in the red color.
[7:03] We also have that map here in front of you, there's I guess a few decisions to be made and before I get into that
[7:10] I just want to make sure that I kind of state what should be obvious
[7:15] I hope that this is not a project that's directly competing against nor is it borrowing from any funds that we're
[7:22] Using to try to complete ongoing flood recovery efforts. Okay. This is a separate issue today
[7:28] It's just requiring our in-house engineering time to work through, and any of the funds
[7:33] that we're talking about, as far as our grant related, or looking at other agencies
[7:38] to help us out.
[7:39] So, this isn't really detracting from the ongoing efforts that we've been completing
[7:43] for the last seven months in response to the flood.
[7:47] The second phase, our need here is to have a facility that's functional and usable from
[7:54] the jump, so that has to include a lot of elements.
[7:56] It's part of different events out of town that I've gone to with my own kids.
[8:02] We're trying to avoid a scenario where you show up and you have a beautiful turf field,
[8:06] but then there's three porta-pots and a gravel parking lot and it doesn't support hundreds
[8:11] of people using it.
[8:13] So we want to be mindful of having a good field and then also having the infrastructure around
[8:18] it to support having large crowds there to try to make this really a good area and something
[8:24] that we can use to attract people.
[8:27] We currently have up to $1.8 million in funding
[8:31] from land and water conservation
[8:33] from conservation fund, which is through the Park Service,
[8:37] to be able to leverage all of that money,
[8:39] we have to match it 100%.
[8:42] We've been able to leverage just over 1.2 million of that
[8:46] already through about 225,000 through a program open space.
[8:51] and the whole parcel that you see here shown is currently property of
[8:59] Allegheny College. They have graciously agreed to donate that to the county for
[9:04] this purpose the value of that land donation leverages about another million
[9:09] dollars that we can then use for construction from those LWCF funds. To get the
[9:15] remaining almost $600,000 in funding we need to identify either additional
[9:21] cash, e-undoor, and kind services that we can provide to the site through a variety of different
[9:27] manners. I'll talk more about that in a minute. To get a really technical facilities and site we
[9:35] want to have out there, our total project costs at this point would be estimated to be somewhere
[9:40] between three and a half and four million. So there's going to be a difference in the neighborhood
[9:44] of about 1.7 million or more that we need to talk about here to find out how aggressively you guys
[9:50] would like us to pursue some of these different options.
[9:55] So the phase two, the base build out, which is kind of what I have shown here and red.
[9:59] I'm just going to kind of read through the things that it covers.
[10:02] And then we can talk about maybe what some of the additional opportunities might be to see
[10:07] maybe where we land, and then we can go from there.
[10:10] So the phase two base, which is just like I said, something that we really think is just that
[10:15] we need to have all of these things in order to make it a usable and safe and functional
[10:19] facility and has an artificial turf field for football and soccer uses.
[10:23] I mentioned two natural grass fields next to the turf field which can be used for a variety of
[10:28] different purposes. Stadium lighting for the turf field spectator seating just sets the
[10:34] bleachers for the turf field. The necessary goal post soccer goals team benches and things to support
[10:39] those activities on the turf field perimeter fence for the turf field to keep mostly deer out and
[10:46] other people out that shouldn't be on there. Additional parking as shown there to support
[10:52] the increased use in that area, a restroom and storage building that can support enough
[11:00] people being there to need an adequate restroom facility. That's one of the biggest things here
[11:04] that we really want to make sure we get right. Extending the walking trail so it ties in again with
[11:10] The existing walking trail at AC and extends even further back into the woods to provide
[11:16] another avenue for people which is already a very popular walking and exercise area down
[11:22] there and the other necessary store-owner management facilities.
[11:27] All of those things added up if we were to put that out for BIDs right now, we're expecting
[11:31] somewhere in the neighborhood about three and a half million dollars.
[11:36] It's hard to really nail down exactly what it would cost because field turf, stadium
[11:42] lights, things like that, and not obviously very common items, but based on information
[11:46] we have from other local projects, thinking that's something that we're pretty close and
[11:50] comfortable with that number.
[11:57] So the green here show, which is the second map in the packet, I passed out here as well,
[12:03] these are just, it's basically all the same things, but there's a few additional things
[12:06] that we think that kind of if we're going this route of trying to find additional funding
[12:11] this would really kind of represent which would be a really great use full build out of
[12:17] this type of facility for us and really be the only real additions to this would be adding
[12:22] additional sight lighting along the entrance road to make it easy to see as you're coming
[12:28] in instead of just over at the field area putting in an additional pavilion just thinking
[12:34] mostly of my own experiences with my own family, going to areas where there's
[12:37] inclement weather and you're stuck waiting for games to pass and having another place to go
[12:41] this undercover. The Pavilion Week constructed in the first days was very nice and it would be
[12:48] good to have an additional one available for folks to use while they're using this area.
[12:54] A playground area next to the fitness course that that is already there to support
[12:58] or just a variety of use for young children and then a scoreboard for the turf field.
[13:06] So a few things else to consider, those items added together would probably add around
[13:12] a half million to the total cost.
[13:15] So we'd be looking somewhere depending on what we settle on with all of those things somewhere
[13:19] between $3.5 and $4 million if we would put all of those things out for bid.
[13:24] trying
[13:28] to determine the best way to go about how to leverage opportunities for
[13:33] in-kind participation, engineering, and things like that. Obviously you're being
[13:36] covered through our department. There's an opportunity perhaps to take advantage
[13:40] of some county construction services through some trucking, some hauling, and maybe even
[13:47] some grading on site wanting to be mindful of what makes the most sense, but also
[13:53] So it would potentially save some money in terms of being able to use our own current equipment
[13:59] but need to maybe kind of see what makes the most sense for that going ahead.
[14:06] Also trying to work with either own and house crews or perhaps the city of Cumberland to
[14:11] make the water and sewer connections for this area.
[14:15] The other piece of this that is worth maybe considering, it's something that would be new for
[14:19] us because we don't have obviously a large number of recreational facilities.
[14:23] but I'm sure you guys have seen when we go to different stadiums, they're named whatever
[14:27] but ever field or such and such whatever concession stand there's obviously a lot of potential
[14:33] sponsorship opportunities that would bring in some additional cash for a facility like this
[14:39] including not limited to but the field surface itself some of the lights that we're going to get a
[14:46] kind of a paved walkway around the football field not a track but just like a paved walkway
[14:51] defense itself, some of the goalposts, the goals, the bleachers, scoreboard, the
[14:57] restroom facility itself, but they don't have to do anything, they don't have to do anything.
[15:00] In the parking lot, signs, landscaping, all those types of things, depending on how far we want to go with that, there's a potential opportunity to maybe obtain a lot of the cash that we would need through sponsorship from local businesses or organizations. So kind of wrapping this up here, the facility obviously is going to provide a lot of opportunities and benefits for the city of Cumberland being with located within the city limits, elegant college, and also just elegant accounting in general.
[15:29] our recommendations at this point based on our experience with similar type projects
[15:33] like this in the past, I mean obviously the turf field construction is something new
[15:37] for us but in terms of working on a park or a recreation type facility we've done in
[15:42] a few different times mostly related to the gap trail but we'd recommend working with
[15:47] the city of Carmel and to ask for some cash contributions from them we've received similar
[15:51] contributions in the past from the city of Frostburg when we've done projects along the
[15:55] the trail, you know, so the minors Memorial Park,
[15:59] maybe even consider asking them for assistance
[16:01] with making the water service connection to the site.
[16:06] We're not recommending asking any college
[16:09] for additional cash at this point
[16:10] because their abandonation is what's enabled about a million
[16:14] dollars in construction funding for the project up to date,
[16:16] which is more than generous.
[16:20] The commissioners obviously were completing the design
[16:23] and the construction management in-house which would be a substantial savings as opposed to
[16:27] going out and putting that to bid to a consulting firm. Did any other cash contribution requirements
[16:34] that are left, which potentially would need to be brought before you all would obviously be determined
[16:39] by our scope, minus whatever else we were able to put together for funding. I guess the decision
[16:47] or the consideration on your parts at this point would be trying to determine if this is something
[16:52] would be appropriate to ask our local delegation to bring before the state legislature to see if
[16:58] any type of capital funding or appropriations might be available to help us close that gap.
[17:04] And my expectation is that something that they could consider that obviously we'd want to be
[17:09] able to help you guys put together whatever that type of information is that you would need to be
[17:14] able to make that request and just wanted to kind of get your thoughts on that because that would
[17:19] and probably represent the line share
[17:20] of what additional funding we would need to get from
[17:23] where we're at with the WCF monies
[17:26] to what the anticipated overall contractor bid would be.
[17:31] Adam, is there anything else you want to add to that?
[17:33] I think we've been just twang around with the idea
[17:38] on how to maximize this money for a longer time.
[17:42] Recently, I invited David in.
[17:45] And basically a lot of people I lean on some expertise, I invited Jay Marley in from the
[17:51] Board of Education, Bobby Smith from City of Carolina, and Dan and I, and we just sat
[17:55] around and talked about having been to these facilities, Jay, Marley response for maintaining
[18:01] these facilities, the idea does it make sense for our county to try to push forward now and
[18:08] provide an opportunity with an artificial turf field, or should we save the money and do
[18:13] little grass complex. So we I think collectively just shared different ideas and we felt it's in the
[18:22] county's best interest at this point in time. I think we need to push forward to try to get this
[18:27] type of facility with an artificial turf field with a full um restroom building with storage
[18:34] with the adequate parking with the lighting and I think it's um I think it's appropriate for us to
[18:41] to be able to talk to company.
[18:43] I think it's also would be,
[18:44] that's maybe talk to the state,
[18:46] how can we bring this type of project to completion now?
[18:50] All right, I think the idea of being able
[18:52] to utilize some of the businesses and such
[18:55] to be able to help partner with us
[18:57] for some of the small pieces is a good idea,
[19:00] but I would rather shoot for, you know,
[19:03] let's keep this whole thing funded.
[19:05] And then if we fall short,
[19:07] then we can go, maybe we go about that way.
[19:09] So, I think it was important that we had the right people at the table before we had a chance to talk to you.
[19:15] So, just wasn't Adam and Dan coming up with this artificial turf field complex that we can't afford.
[19:24] I've traveled to these facilities and I know these guys do now too.
[19:30] We need one of these, I mean, we really do.
[19:33] I know this past fall there were teams, soccer teams plugging for fields, okay.
[19:40] Grant Riverside has had some damage as a result of the flood, some of the
[19:45] middle school football teams have been silenced around mainly the
[19:48] Allegheny feeder team. They were at the old Allegheny field and now we have
[19:53] construction going on there. So they've been just like no fun field. So I feel with
[19:59] A turf field with lighting on an evening such as tonight where it is 50 degrees in
[20:05] mild.
[20:06] You will have kids on that field at 6 o'clock at night playing.
[20:09] When you guys talk about timeline here and the delegation and you're referring to this
[20:16] session or would it become it would be a place for them?
[20:19] What are you referring to?
[20:20] We would like to get in on this session.
[20:22] So the 1.8 has kind of been set aside, this LWCF.
[20:26] It's not necessarily like 1.8 is ready to spend, but it's been set aside and we're going
[20:31] to make an application to DNR and now we're going to work with, he's the federal agency,
[20:40] Park Service.
[20:41] Yeah.
[20:42] And that money's not available until next fall, okay.
[20:47] But the request has to be put in and we have to identify the scope and in my mind the scope
[20:54] that we identify for LWCF funding is the turf field because in 15 years time plus
[21:03] reminds a couple years when it's time to replace that turf field we can go
[21:07] hey open space we need you to come to the table now to replace this turf field
[21:11] and now we have a turf field is in place for 30 plus years okay so I think
[21:18] between what we can do in-house on our floor with design I think what we
[21:23] perhaps can orchestrate between Comberland County and what we can accomplish with some
[21:30] in-kind services for some of the general rough construction. I think we should do that
[21:36] to a certain extent, but I think it would be fantastic if we can get Comberland's money.
[21:40] We can get some money from the state who will put out a really nice project, just if we
[21:45] can be proud of it.
[21:49] Our delegation has, in recent past, talked a lot about regional recreation as being a priority, and particularly going up up was really expressed that's a priority for him.
[22:02] I just, I was, Dan and Adam talked about being at these events.
[22:06] I was just on the eastern shore with my sons and we were talking about the fact that there's a 30 million dollar indoor outdoor facility going in on the eastern shore for entirely devoted to regional recreation.
[22:25] So I think the time for the state to support a project like this is really primed with our delegation behind it.
[22:33] I think it makes sense to prioritize it.
[22:37] To the extent that we're able to get their support.
[22:39] And outside of the flood commissioners, the only thing we've asked the delegation for so far will be to take down the smoke stacks.
[22:45] So which is a, there's costs there for sure, but generally I think they have some capacity for the project.
[22:52] So the time's probably good if you want these guys to kind of start to write this up or we could get a letter together.
[22:59] Absolutely.
[22:59] We had our next meeting to go down the state to the delegation to wherever we need to figure out who we need to get to.
[23:06] To make the request if that's something you guys want to do.
[23:08] Yeah, people will come.
[23:10] Yeah.
[23:10] This stuff's just like the movie.
[23:12] You go to the neighborhood.
[23:13] Well, it's much needed.
[23:14] Well, yeah, it is needed.
[23:16] Because we have how many people always want to use this.
[23:19] putting it in the small ground back here in this field behind us, which is not easy to walk.
[23:24] Yeah, yeah, we did entertain along kind of going down some right there.
[23:28] Now, that upper part, does that border with the, would be considered a liby property, I guess,
[23:32] up that way?
[23:33] This is, this is the country called, and just so to give you a little bit of reference,
[23:39] when you come out on Old Willowbrook, so you can turn down into the campus here, if you'd like,
[23:43] and then work your way to the back and then pop up onto this road right here.
[23:47] But what you're going to do is you're going to go past here some college housing and age housing here
[23:54] I think 55 and above and you can work your way around on this road here
[23:58] And you can go down in there's a small parking light here with the building completed continue down the hill
[24:03] Okay, you're going to go across this bridge
[24:05] You can come up onto the hill here and then you can sit in this parking lot and you can turn and look down towards
[24:11] even at that point and you can kind of visualize with all this how it's all
[24:16] it's in here okay but that's all that's all completed if you haven't been out
[24:20] there I'd recommend you write out or else if you're walking around this
[24:24] connection from the AC mile loop now is already there and you can get over on it
[24:30] and what did we have in place as far as continued maintenance did we have like an
[24:36] idea. As far as funding or how we arrange cutting the grass just you know he said he's cut
[24:43] the grass. Okay. Yeah. He said in 9.8 or the 988 he started cutting the grass. Thank
[24:50] you David. I'll cut the part of it. Yeah. A lot of those decisions are going to depend I
[24:56] guess on how large in scope. I mean the parking, the building, plowing, things like that I
[25:05] I think between cooperation between the city,
[25:08] between County and New College,
[25:10] I think it's something that's pretty easy to figure out,
[25:13] but no specifics yet,
[25:15] just depending on how far we end up going.
[25:17] We can use the fields, I think they'll.
[25:20] They can help maintain, you know,
[25:22] some of the, we'll have a dumpster there,
[25:24] they can use the building,
[25:26] have some of these operation and maintenance agreements,
[25:29] but the idea is we would put together a committee.
[25:33] Okay, that we would have the right people at the table to make sure that the field is shared the way it needs to be
[25:40] That this last summer our summer helpers cut this my college kids and then and help work with Dave Hawkins and those guys they cut it
[25:49] The city plows it and we'll camp a security
[25:53] Boxing at night, so that's how we're set up right now
[25:57] Till these point, you know if you can all so that could be a selling point is bringing tournaments in
[26:03] Travel teams and stuff like that and really utilize and bringing those you know dollars into the county as well
[26:09] I mean that could be a big we talked about that and and we like to be able to think big like hey
[26:14] Perhaps you could be able to get one of these tournaments and I've gone to some of these in Pennsylvania
[26:19] We're sometimes are playing behind the church
[26:21] And then the next thing you're on another high school field 29 way so nothing's out of the question that you couldn't play here
[26:27] You couldn't play Riverside you couldn't play even greenway Bishop Walsh and it
[26:33] It wouldn't be far to travel a mountain ridge.
[26:35] And then you have to end ending.
[26:36] So something like that, we just need a good volunteer base
[26:39] to be able to pull something off like that.
[26:43] Understood.
[26:44] I think it's a great project.
[26:46] I think so too.
[26:47] Do you guys want them to pull, start
[26:50] to pull the numbers together?
[26:52] And guys, I would suggest maybe like the low number
[26:55] and high number, what you need, and potentially a way
[26:59] to show how we could face it in case the state would come back
[27:02] and say, hey, if you had half a million this year,
[27:04] and half a million next. Okay, that's fine, as long as it works. If you guys can do that,
[27:09] I think in the meantime, we can find out who we need to get it to at the States so they can
[27:14] kind of incorporate it in the capital request. If you guys are good for this. Yeah, absolutely.
[27:20] That's great. We needed for it a while. Yeah. We get calls here all the time. All the time.
[27:25] I get to get up all the time. Yeah, for fields.
[27:31] Well thank you very much, it's a good partnership, that's always yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked to him about the possibilities
[27:44] and he agreed like you end up having a scheduled game up here and they have a very nice grass field over there
[27:51] but all of a sudden you get some type of September thunderstorm and now you're going to have perhaps abusing your field
[27:57] Yep, well, let's walk 100 yards and use the out there and use the two eyes over there
[28:05] Sounds like a win on the way around.
[28:07] We'll go potentially.
[28:07] That's me.
[28:08] Yeah.
[28:09] We'll bring you some money when we're done.
[28:12] We'll work on it.
[28:13] You mentioned no pride.
[28:14] I don't really don't need to say a lot more of stuff.
[28:18] Very good.
[28:26] Thank you.
[28:27] Yeah, thank you guys.
[28:28] Thank you guys very much.
[28:30] Even working on this won't do.
[28:31] Yeah, it's something that's been needed for a long time.
[28:33] We definitely don't have enough fields for everything that's going on.
[28:38] No, to find a piece of ground that's got 80% of the infrastructure already in place.
[28:44] Again, that good partnership with the college.
[28:48] It's
[28:53] pretty crazy.
[28:54] It's been a long time.
[28:56] Hopefully we can accelerate this thing and get a nice facility.
[29:00] We need the money.
[29:02] We'll go.
[29:03] The state's going to be right on board with you.
[29:06] Yeah, yeah, and I mean just for clarity too, I know the states got their budget issues
[29:10] But this would not be you know
[29:12] This isn't something they go to in the budget. This is something they typically bond out. They do those projects pretty well
[29:18] Regardless of budget, you know, just the size of the bond a little bit. Yeah
[29:22] And this is in a huge ask per the states
[29:28] Request that they will put in for a bond. Yeah, so that's kind of our our thought if we're going to ask let's ask
[29:34] Yeah, that's what we get. Yeah, what we need to make it work, right?
[29:37] We're not going to get together such a small piece compared to what the state
[29:40] ball is going to be. Yeah, but I'm hopeful still that they'll view the flood
[29:47] assistance. Yeah, you put it everyone saying, oh, you're you're getting
[29:50] at this and you're not going to get anything outside. I can't let that conversation
[29:56] that was the capital project necessary, that's how it came out.
[30:00] The last conversation I had when we were down there is they understood that there are two separate issues and that just because we may get funding for the flood doesn't mean we're not going to get anything else. They were very receptive to that in our last meeting with them.
[30:14] You're getting ready.
[30:16] Yeah.
[30:17] But I recorded it on my phone.
[30:20] Alright.
[30:22] That
[30:24] was for God.
[30:25] That's it.
[30:25] Did you guys have any other questions?
[30:27] No.
[30:28] Good.
[30:29] I like it.
[30:32] Moving forward.
[30:33] Again.
[30:34] Thank you.
[30:35] Yeah.
[30:35] You guys put a lot of comments on it.
[30:37] Because I know that that's kind of stalled open when it took off.
[30:42] It really took off.
[30:47] They always do.
[30:53] Seven dumpsters of trash.
[30:55] No, kid.
[30:58] That's not a counting bill in the material.
[31:02] The best day, I hope that that station sits there and none of them.
[31:06] But it's just never have to run.
[31:07] That'd be the best day in Oregon County.
[31:09] No one had to go.
[31:11] It's going to really, it's a valuable service and a key location.
[31:21] Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thanks guys, that's it, it looks good.
[31:28] Can you get off? Of course.
[31:33] Oh, that was a good one.