1 00:00:06,990 --> 00:00:33,630 Board of Adjustment Meeting on August the 14th, Supreme Valley, and Supreme Valley Village in here too long, and it is five, six o'clock, even. So, may I call the roll who's present? Showing down the crowd as well. Susan Diel, and us Schneider, Salimah Med, and my role on this, um, vice chairman, so I'm filling in for as a chairman, might. 2 00:00:35,650 --> 00:00:38,350 Of course, or business is the public hearing. 3 00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:45,390 considering, regarding the request from Isle-Ezzern and Eduardo Caleb, or Calebere, or 4 00:00:45,390 --> 00:00:45,690 give me. 5 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:52,570 Calebere, or various from chapter 12 of the city of Spring Valley Village's code of 6 00:00:52,570 --> 00:01:00,370 ordinances, planning and zoning section 05, or 2.13, freestanding mechanical equipment 7 00:01:00,370 --> 00:01:05,110 shall not be placed closer than four feet to the property line, to allow placement of 8 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:12,310 freestanding mechanical equipment to replace 3 feet 6 inches at 8602 Cedardale Drive in the 9 00:01:12,310 --> 00:01:18,610 city of Spring Valley Village, Texas. First is presentation, a variance request by the applicant, 10 00:01:19,610 --> 00:01:27,150 and then we'll vote for an enhanced and then we'll adjourn the public hearing and have the actual 11 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:29,850 final discussion and decision. 12 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,940 The reason we're here today is trying to get approval for a generator to be placed on the 13 00:02:30,940 --> 00:02:31,660 top of our home. 14 00:02:34,750 --> 00:02:39,250 Obviously, I don't even know why we need it very much because the survey that we've included 15 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:43,490 in this document that I have provided to you shows that we already have it. 16 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:54,580 The reason for the discrepancy is because we've put in a pool two years ago and when we 17 00:02:54,580 --> 00:03:02,200 the pooling and the City of Spring Valley required an additional survey to be able to put the pool inside 18 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:08,500 of that survey. I tried to contact the regional surveyor. He's retired. He's been 22 years 19 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:15,860 and so I was unable to get him. City of Spring Valley, a gentleman that was working here by the name 20 00:03:15,860 --> 00:03:23,240 of Zach Meadows. He recommended this other surveyor company and who I hired, they came out, 21 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,940 that did all the measurements that when they provided the survey, I noticed that there was a 22 00:03:27,940 --> 00:03:36,540 discrepancy and I told them, you know, this is not correct. You're obviously taking inches away 23 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:44,540 from me, creating a gap between me and my neighbor. There is an existing marker at our neighbor's 24 00:03:44,540 --> 00:03:51,360 house, delineating where the differences between the two properties, but they put a different marker 25 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,460 and other two markers and nothing in the minute. 26 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:57,640 So that's No Man's Land in the Center. 27 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,980 One side where my neighbor confirms 28 00:04:00,980 --> 00:04:03,260 that that's his marker for his property 29 00:04:03,260 --> 00:04:06,340 and I also have a copy of his survey and the plaque 30 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:13,340 and his survey and his site planning for his home. 31 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,920 So everything shows that original marker, 32 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,840 which is a pipe that has been there for the last 22 years, obviously longer than that, 33 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:30,400 because there's a lot to their way before us. Is the true marker for the division 34 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:36,660 for our two properties? If that marker were to be used, it would confirm that we have a 35 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:43,140 bead between our property and there. Actually, their property has 10 feet and hours has 8. 36 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:54,100 The new order is showing that we have 7.6 I think or something like that, not the 8B, but that's 37 00:04:54,100 --> 00:05:01,020 invalid. It's the reason why it's occurred is because in, as you probably all know, whenever they 38 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:09,760 do a flat, they round up and when they round up on those measurements for each lot, the last lot tends to lose 39 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:16,220 get shorted. So we lost some inches that are now being reflected in the second 40 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:23,080 survey. Had this new survey tied in bingo to the other reference points, it 41 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,720 would have put everything together, but they never tied in bingo. So it's 42 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:35,680 created a shortage on our property with this invalid survey. Our request is 43 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:42,700 that the original survey, which is the one that was used to build our home, was approved by Spring 44 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:49,600 Valley, was built by David Weekly Holmes, who's done over 100,000 homes. I think they know what 45 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,040 they're doing. It's the survey that they use. And like I said, was approved by Spring Valley to 46 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,140 construct the home. If we hadn't had the eight feet between us, there's no way that Spring Valley 47 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:04,820 would have approved the construction of that home. And we passed all permits, all occupancy, 48 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:08,340 see everything was good to go on the home when we did. 49 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:19,000 So it was really concerning to learn now that we've had to provide a variance in order 50 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,360 to be able to put in a generator. 51 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:31,480 If you guys want to see copies of the last half of those here, this is the original flat. 52 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,780 This is the survey for the neighbors home. 53 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:40,120 You already have my survey. 54 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,460 And I don't have a copy of the needs. 55 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:42,940 I'm so ready. 56 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,060 So this is the neighbor's survey, 57 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:50,920 confirming where the existing marker is, 58 00:06:51,340 --> 00:06:54,240 is his boundary and line. 59 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,100 This is his site plan, 60 00:06:59,790 --> 00:07:03,710 which depicts all of the markers 61 00:07:03,710 --> 00:07:08,150 all of the markers and it shows that he has ten feet actually here and we have eight. 62 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:10,250 So we really have 18 feet between us. 63 00:07:10,810 --> 00:07:16,010 Even if we had the seven feet six inches, we would still have more than 16 feet between 64 00:07:16,010 --> 00:07:20,950 us, which is typical of the requirement to put in a sort of, you know, his inner tablet 65 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:21,470 for feet. 66 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:24,490 This is the plant, 67 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:33,640 which also confirms all of the dimensions that are on arm-wagoning survey. 68 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,860 I just don't know 69 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:44,400 if 70 00:07:51,980 --> 00:07:55,160 that's the kind that we've lived in this home, the neighbor has always 71 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:02,820 confirmed that that pipe is, it's darker, there's a chainland fence that it is between 72 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:06,840 the pool and us, there used to be a chainland fence surrounding the entire property, we took 73 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,040 hours down, what was in front, but it has been passed, even though that chainland fence 74 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:17,220 is on our property. He asked us to leave him there because he was keeping his front chain length 75 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:22,940 fence and he wanted aesthetically the habit. So we applied, you know, we left it there, we didn't 76 00:08:22,940 --> 00:08:25,700 take it down all the way, the one that was in the front of our home. Yeah. 77 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:31,180 So the survey that was done 78 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:39,120 two years ago for the construction was only for the construction of the building, 79 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:47,120 We're just going to have to actually be surveyed and reassigning the markers and the dimensions of our property. 80 00:08:48,020 --> 00:09:03,480 You know, this new survey, which is invalid, is taking away feet of intercoms, which type are documents where the type of property of a new debt survey. 81 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,300 It's what we paid for, it's what we bought. 82 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:17,700 So we're asking that that particular survey is the one that can prove and I also have a 83 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:21,770 little rest to show you so 84 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,840 this is the original marker he has 10 feet right there this is the 85 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:38,260 the fence that's on my property but really he wants to keep so he has 10 feet there we have 8 feet here 86 00:09:38,260 --> 00:09:42,160 They're saying that the new marker is over here. 87 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:46,520 So there's a 16-minute gap between one marker and the other. 88 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,640 That includes that one thing that allows for me, 89 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,460 but that additional survey, which is found, 90 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,640 is showing via the incorrect location for the division. 91 00:10:02,580 --> 00:10:05,260 This is where we're proposing the generator to be placed. 92 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:08,540 There, as you can see, there are already air conditioning units, 93 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:29,240 There's a lot of other stuff there that has been placed without any issue and we don't see that they would be a problem since we have over 17 feet as it is actually 17 feet seven inches between the two homes, which is more than the requirement for the big homes. 94 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:32,960 There's no windows there that would be a basin to it. 95 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 The unit is not going to be facing their home. 96 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,280 It's going to be facing back. 97 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:41,040 The offense that we put up is a little space defense. 98 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:43,480 And they actually put up another fence, 99 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,840 which you can see over here, 100 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,860 that right behind it, 101 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,500 and they asked if they could put it on our property, 102 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:51,400 so it would create a gap, 103 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,080 and it would get it in or whatever. 104 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:54,540 So it's a double, 105 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,380 a double defense area, 106 00:10:58,780 --> 00:11:00,820 which is going to decrease sound. 107 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:16,900 So our request is that the original survey, which is the one that's moved us from valley to the old and old, 108 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,960 who then be approved as it should be. 109 00:11:23,020 --> 00:11:27,860 We want to be able to use all of our home, all of our property. 110 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:31,640 We've had a lot of issues and hardships. 111 00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:38,660 My daughter had a rain tumor two years ago just as we were putting in the pool. 112 00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:43,500 I didn't have the time to really fight for the surveyor. 113 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:45,600 You know, I had other things on my mind. 114 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,820 My daughter's health, you know. 115 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,740 And we're now in the enters in every single day. 116 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,740 Now that tumor's growing back. 117 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,660 She's going to radiate her every single day. 118 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,100 Now we have this situation. 119 00:11:54,100 --> 00:12:00,180 We really need that generator in order to provide welfare for our family, just like everyone 120 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:04,620 else in Spring Valley has been putting in generators which I'm sure you're aware of 121 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:10,560 in order to be able to provide for the fans of health and wellbeing, safety, comfort. 122 00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:17,120 That's all really that we're asking is to be treated the same as others, especially since 123 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:25,660 We have a survey that collects the correct dimensions that fly with a guide last. 124 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:30,560 That's the last question. 125 00:12:31,340 --> 00:12:33,320 If we ask questions during the discussion. 126 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,660 Until we get to the agenda. 127 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Consideration. 128 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,800 So I do have some neighbors here. 129 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:52,300 who are willing to testify and on our behalf should that be needed. One of them is Troy Walder. 130 00:12:52,640 --> 00:13:00,460 His family actually owned all of the property, the Walder Subdivision, which is where our house 131 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:11,000 is and the PAPS. And Troy still lives there right on the corner. So he's aware of how this all was 132 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,080 divided and where the property markers should be because they all did. 133 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:22,060 So he's happy to answer any questions so you guys have anything and also have 134 00:13:22,060 --> 00:13:27,140 Martel and Greg Herbs who are across the street from us. They also have a 135 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,320 generator. Roy has a generator. 136 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:36,780 So you guys have questions. Should we ask anyone 137 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:38,340 when they want to speak to you now. 138 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:38,960 Correct. 139 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,980 If you would like your neighbors to say something 140 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:44,540 that would be the time for them to say it. 141 00:13:45,580 --> 00:13:48,160 Because then we will be, when we adjourn 142 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,060 to take up the next discussion item, 143 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:55,240 we'll be talking about the evidence we've heard, 144 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,120 and then we'll ask questions based on that. 145 00:13:58,780 --> 00:13:59,600 Is that accurate? 146 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,180 Karen? 147 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:23,190 Are we okay? 148 00:14:23,890 --> 00:14:24,070 Yes. 149 00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:30,910 You know, Troy Walder, 8610 Cedardale, like she said, the subdivision, the Walder subdivision, 150 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:34,770 I'm pleased to talk about her, whatever. 151 00:14:36,070 --> 00:14:40,290 And I have to say, up to the number one, they've been tremendous names. 152 00:14:41,210 --> 00:14:42,590 I said to them, they've been sure. 153 00:14:43,930 --> 00:14:47,690 And up to you, like she said, you know, I hope you get all the mentions. 154 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:49,270 We've ever rejected everything. 155 00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:57,650 I mean, it's being straightforward, armed to send, straightforward and honest, and I encourage you to do that. 156 00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:59,970 I think that... 157 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Regional survey, they have their house, they can access the flat, they can access the provision, 158 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:11,720 reading, they can go on all these years, whatever, and I think the survey, they can have the 159 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,700 pool, they can disagree, I think that's why it falls. In fact, I came to know how many times 160 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:25,340 asking questions, and we, if I survey or you, whatever, anyway, I think they'll tell you 161 00:15:25,340 --> 00:15:28,260 So, you know, there are things that are 162 00:15:46,850 --> 00:15:49,690 very similar to how I would be possible. 163 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:59,670 As far as surveys go in Spring Valley, I could believe it started the wrong place to be in the wrong place. 164 00:16:02,950 --> 00:16:07,930 I don't care the issue, even if it's part of the variance of some of the issues. 165 00:16:07,930 --> 00:16:08,130 Those 166 00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:17,380 generators long forth were not extended to lack of electricity in their neighborhood. 167 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:33,620 Well, now, if there's anybody else asking, is there anybody else that has anything to say 168 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:37,360 or comments about the question before us, the request, 169 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:40,100 and the close point. 170 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:45,580 Well, close the public hearing, and now we will do just the formality we do. 171 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,880 That's 6.16 PM. 172 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:48,440 That's 6.16 PM, OK? 173 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:49,720 That's 6.16 PM. 174 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,080 We close the public hearing. 175 00:16:51,700 --> 00:17:03,740 and now you read item number three. No. No, we need to do those in favor of those. Right. You need to make a motion to grant the variance. Okay. 176 00:17:06,850 --> 00:17:09,010 Make a motion. No, it is not number three. 177 00:17:11,470 --> 00:17:17,970 I'm sorry, I don't know why I'm confused, but you'll need to read on it number three, 178 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:19,410 and then there'll be a motion. 179 00:17:19,570 --> 00:17:25,750 And remember, as I've discussed before, regardless of how you're going to vote, 180 00:17:26,050 --> 00:17:28,270 I prefer the motion to be in the affirmative. 181 00:17:28,510 --> 00:17:32,710 That is the grant the variance that doesn't, and if you move for it, or second, 182 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:35,150 it does not mean you have to vote in favor of it. 183 00:17:35,150 --> 00:17:41,090 there can be a motion to approve and a second and it can fail zero to five. 184 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:44,430 So, you're not technically ahead of both, but I would like it. 185 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:48,010 There's a reason for that, but rather than to explain it on, you know, like, 186 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:48,990 I can't if you want me to. 187 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:49,750 All right. 188 00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:50,850 We're going to be permitted. 189 00:17:51,230 --> 00:17:53,950 So, we're moving on to the item three at the point. 190 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:54,390 Correct. 191 00:17:54,570 --> 00:17:54,690 Okay. 192 00:17:55,370 --> 00:17:56,850 We're moving on to the agenda item three. 193 00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:59,690 It says consideration and public action concerning. 194 00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:08,830 I request from SL and Ysir and Eduardo Campiero for a variance from chapter 12 of the city 195 00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:15,050 of spring valley villages code of ordinances planning and zoning section 05, 02, 0.13. 196 00:18:15,910 --> 00:18:20,190 Prestanding and mechanical equipment shall not be placed closer than four feet to the 197 00:18:20,190 --> 00:18:24,770 property line to allow placement of freestanding mechanical equipment to be placed three feet, 198 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:32,590 six inches at 8602 searedale drive in the city of Spring Valley Village, Texas. Now we can open 199 00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:34,310 discussion or ask any questions. 200 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,000 We have the motion. Oh, I'm sorry. Can we do the motion first? 201 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:53,240 Yes. Okay. Let's get the motion in the second part. Okay. Anybody want to make a motion to approve 202 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,200 the request. 203 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,960 Okay. 204 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Any discussion? 205 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:05,800 There was come in here that your pool equipment would be at the same distance from property 206 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,180 line fence, I guess, is what this generator will be. 207 00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:08,700 What? 208 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:09,820 That was approved. 209 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,440 I assume by the city using what survey? 210 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:18,660 Using the same survey that you have, the second survey, because that second survey was used 211 00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:19,260 for the pool. 212 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,880 So there's, so now there's a, I don't understand how that works. 213 00:19:23,380 --> 00:19:25,640 Okay. That was my main question. 214 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:25,780 Well, 215 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,720 Full equipment could go closer to the house. 216 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,640 Generated. 217 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,540 Yeah. 218 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:31,140 Yeah. 219 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:31,600 I guess. 220 00:19:38,340 --> 00:19:46,540 So I want to understand with this new incorrect. 221 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:57,500 are questionable. The second survey, did your lot get narrower? Did they just shift your 89 feet or whatever it is further to the? 222 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:05,460 They're putting us in a bingo. Basically they're moving forward. So that's why it's created a gap. 223 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,440 So they shifted you closer to Bingo. Okay. All right. 224 00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:15,280 That's because Bingo's thinner line shifted. 225 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,380 I never find it interbable. 226 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:21,220 They only use LaMille as a guideline. 227 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:26,820 And then measure 95 feet, 91 feet, and then us. 228 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:30,900 But the true measurements for the first law are not 95 feet. 229 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,600 It's 94.3 feet. 230 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:36,860 The second one is actually 90.4 feet. 231 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:42,680 And then, you know, those engines that are not being considered are what are putting us out further. 232 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,660 So the surveyer never worked backwards? 233 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:46,460 Exactly. 234 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:51,440 Because he was using the survey for the construction of a pool, 235 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:56,040 to be able to draw inside of the backyard that dimensions of the pool, 236 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,460 to show that they have a pool approved by Springtown. 237 00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:03,790 You know, you start from the center line of the street. 238 00:21:06,570 --> 00:21:12,650 I think, because I actually have a cousin who is a home builder and construction, and 239 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:15,530 I set them all these documents and he says, well, he never hired an invadible. 240 00:21:16,150 --> 00:21:17,210 And I asked them. 241 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,370 I said, why aren't you finding an invadible? 242 00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:20,530 He says, well, we don't have to. 243 00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:22,190 This is for the construction of the pool. 244 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:23,090 We don't have to do it. 245 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:31,750 So I mean, I'm not a surveyor, and I never imagine that it would cause these issues, because 246 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:38,610 because our original survey obviously was approved by everyone in God was correct. 247 00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:48,590 You've made several references to the neighbor with the, you're adjacent to you that they 248 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:55,370 say their marker is correct to match the first survey. Do you have any comment anything from 249 00:21:55,370 --> 00:21:56,290 them other than? 250 00:21:56,650 --> 00:22:02,600 They can speak with them, but I have photographs, like I said, of where the messages are. 251 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,080 the fact that they are 252 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,940 not here, they don't hit an object. 253 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,120 And I've always had good relationships with them, 254 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,980 never had any issues, they've always been firm, 255 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,820 that that fight is the marker and asked for us to keep that 256 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:22,980 out of the fence, which is to us, kind of an eye sore. 257 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,360 But you know, we want to be good neighbors, and they like it, 258 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,260 and they want it, so we kept it. 259 00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:29,880 That fence, the chain landing. 260 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:34,960 I noticed in the photos that we were sitting around earlier 261 00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:44,220 to the committee for the board that the A-foot fans looks like it was built to the new survey. 262 00:22:48,580 --> 00:22:49,200 I think time 263 00:22:57,810 --> 00:23:03,590 and, you know, the discrepancy that now existed with Spring Valley. 264 00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:07,330 So, you know, my priority was to take care of my time. 265 00:23:09,650 --> 00:23:12,950 Survey is what it is, and I never imagined it would cost us kind of much. 266 00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:24,270 Does your neighbor, where you're sharing the lawn and the fence, do they have a generator? 267 00:23:24,690 --> 00:23:25,490 They do not. 268 00:23:25,890 --> 00:23:26,310 They do not. 269 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:34,510 On that side, there are several air conditioning units, which is the point that they need to 270 00:23:34,510 --> 00:23:34,610 do. 271 00:23:35,730 --> 00:23:44,690 Do you have a copy 272 00:23:49,650 --> 00:23:50,590 of the second survey? 273 00:23:57,290 --> 00:24:01,450 Okay, I look at it, but now I have a question, but I didn't bring it, but I thought we 274 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:01,990 always got it. 275 00:24:03,310 --> 00:24:03,910 My bad. 276 00:24:04,130 --> 00:24:04,290 Okay. 277 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:05,530 I've got on my computer. 278 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:06,230 No, that's fine. 279 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:06,470 Yeah. 280 00:24:09,550 --> 00:24:10,050 That's fine. 281 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:10,730 We got it here. 282 00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:14,650 I mean, this is really the more important document right here. 283 00:24:15,050 --> 00:24:16,430 The original plan. 284 00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:17,130 Yeah. 285 00:24:17,130 --> 00:24:17,170 Yeah. 286 00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:23,590 So right there they spell out from the center line of bingo to the center line. 287 00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:26,410 Yeah. 288 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:31,230 Yeah. 289 00:24:31,370 --> 00:24:31,490 Yeah. 290 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:31,930 This is clear. 291 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:32,910 Okay. 292 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:33,810 I'll be easier. 293 00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:47,650 How did the second survey be involved in all this? 294 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:53,730 Because it was used to replace the pool of back yard so that you can get the perfect. 295 00:24:54,110 --> 00:24:58,310 So that was on file here at Spring Valley. 296 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:26,240 I just want to look in the second survey or didn't even note the iron pot or found iron rod. 297 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:31,020 They went from a corner closest to the west. 298 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:36,400 He said it is in fact with non-prolite survey that it depends to put the pool in the back 299 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:36,520 area. 300 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,500 Yeah, okay, correct placement for the phone right all right any other question for anyone? 301 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:50,630 Okay, then I call for a vote on the motion to approve the requested 302 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:52,490 We 303 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,240 already got the motion. Yeah, so I just 304 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,160 Yeah 305 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:07,190 I'm in favor 306 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:14,890 I'm in favor. I'm in favor. I was a favor. I guess you know, okay, all right, so motion passes 5 to 0 307 00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:16,230 very interested granted. 308 00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:28,050 Thank you for going through the over head. And here's, yeah, this is actually the most important thing I can see. 309 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:31,890 I think you have all your documents that you share. 310 00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:33,030 Want that? 311 00:26:34,790 --> 00:26:37,070 Thank you. Good presentation. 312 00:26:39,910 --> 00:26:41,070 We call 313 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:47,350 for another public hearing. 314 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:50,830 and we would read the item number for it. 315 00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:54,370 All right, now we're going to proceed item number four, 316 00:26:54,630 --> 00:27:01,810 public hearing at 626 to be conduct public hearing, 317 00:27:02,170 --> 00:27:06,670 concerning on a request from Paul Farrar, 318 00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:12,670 for our variance from Chapter 12 of the City of Spring Valley 319 00:27:12,670 --> 00:27:14,750 Village's Code of Ordnance Planning and Zoning. 320 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:30,850 Section 0502.03, no building or structure more than two stories, shall be erected in the dwelling district A, an expansion of a nonconforming structure had a 6-118 in which you drive in the city of Spring Valley Village. 321 00:27:32,010 --> 00:27:35,190 Now the item A, the presentation. 322 00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:36,830 What do you mean? 323 00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:38,570 Can you speak into the microphone? 324 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,260 Sort of loud. 325 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Kind of do this for a living. 326 00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:43,520 So it gets too loud. 327 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:44,260 I'll step inside. 328 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,360 Sorry. 329 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,500 It's just recording for the record. 330 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,740 So my name is Paul Skervani. 331 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,360 And I live at 8618. 332 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,140 Westview Drive. 333 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720 I'm joined here this evening by my wife. 334 00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:56,640 But that's a Skervani. 335 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,820 Our youngest daughter, a pianist Skervani. 336 00:27:59,060 --> 00:28:00,440 She started sixth grade yesterday. 337 00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:01,860 And our oldest. 338 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,360 It's an age grade name. 339 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,500 and Regan's providing to his economy with the government. 340 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:07,660 We're also joined by our neighbor, 341 00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:11,660 our first neighbor, Matt Fleming, who's at 8612, 342 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,820 8614 Westview and our builders 343 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,480 from on-point construction, rural and Robert. 344 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,360 What we're asking this committee to do 345 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,800 is ran us a bearing so that we may build a half bathroom 346 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,580 on our third floor, as simply what we're asking for. 347 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:38,200 So, we won. We've been residents on Westview since 2019. My wife and I moved from Edo with 348 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,160 our children. This is our first major home. We lived in a town home in Edo for ten years 349 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:50,240 before that. And we bought our dream home on Westview in 2019 with the eye towards renovating, 350 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:56,360 which we're in the process of now. We started this process back in 2020, actually. Gone through 351 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,280 We actually a couple of builders, a couple of concepts, a couple of architects, and we finally 352 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,180 got the plans that we love. 353 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,720 We, we, to give you an idea of what we're doing, we're expanding the house by about 2500 354 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,160 square feet, outdoor spaces being built. 355 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:14,540 All of this has already been approved. 356 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:19,540 The only issue, holy enough, the construction at this point is this dirt floor hack back. 357 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,800 We made these plans with an eye towards preserving green space. 358 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,940 We're on a 15,000 square foot lot. 359 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:28,820 We love the trees in the back. 360 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:30,320 We wanted to preserve screen space 361 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,600 so we're actually building out sideways 362 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 towards the existing garage and over the existing garage. 363 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,580 And we're beautifying the front of the house too 364 00:29:38,580 --> 00:29:41,340 by adding a porch and things like that. 365 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:44,300 Because the one thing my wife and I want to do 366 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:46,180 is we want our kids to graduate high school here. 367 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,320 We want to keep this house the rest of our lives 368 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,220 and we want our kids and grandkids to come back 369 00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:51,920 because we like this city. 370 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:59,980 So, when we purchased the house in 2019, one of the selling points to us was the... 371 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,900 I think the third floor was already built out. So it was a total surprise to me when I hear back 372 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:11,200 from the permitting department, hey, you can't do anything with the third floor. There's 373 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,500 actually a set of stairs from the second floor that goes up, lines, and goes to the third 374 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:22,020 floor. When we bought it, it was completely built out with carpet, a seed up there. It's 375 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:27,580 finished walls. It's painted. They're ceiling to ceiling fans. Most importantly, I think 376 00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:30,160 from a safety standpoint, their sprinkler system. 377 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,100 We are house complies with the codes as far as the sprinkler system goes, and from a 378 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:39,160 safety standpoint, having people up there, that sprinkler system provides that extra layer 379 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,480 of safety. 380 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,400 And so that was a selling point to us because we have young kids, one of which is, they're 381 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,100 both in middle school now, we're about to have a high school or next year, and there's 382 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,960 not a whole lot of places that you can send your kids these days to hang out. 383 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,480 And so, when we purchased the house, it was with an eye towards the children being able 384 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,220 to have their own space up there, hang out with friends, be in a safe space, and eventually 385 00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:06,440 put in this half-bath when we renovated. 386 00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:12,500 We don't want boys or girls running through the rest of the house through bedrooms and things 387 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:17,120 like that using the bathrooms when you just have this right there readily accessible to them 388 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,920 on the third floor. 389 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:25,730 Fast forward to today, there's a bit more of an exigent need which I addressed in the paper 390 00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:29,790 work as to why we're asking for this so urgently. 391 00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:36,190 And to back up even more, we've been out of 8618 Westview in a rent house since January. 392 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:42,270 We thought this was going because the architect that built these plans for us said, hey, 393 00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:45,150 this is this will pass mustard, we read the code, all that stuff. 394 00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:51,090 And so we turned the plans in and we went to rent a house because this is a total renovation 395 00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:52,030 of our place. 396 00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:56,530 We went to a house before we got stamps thinking, hey, this will sail through. 397 00:31:57,330 --> 00:31:59,170 So we, this is important to my family. 398 00:31:59,690 --> 00:32:04,890 We've been out of our house paying rent to the tune of $4,700 a month from January to 399 00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:05,270 today. 400 00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:10,350 And what I'm told by my builders is that when we get the green light, we get 10 months. 401 00:32:10,790 --> 00:32:16,430 So I expect it to be back on Westview in October of this year, November of this year. 402 00:32:17,150 --> 00:32:19,710 And so now we've delayed this process 10 months. 403 00:32:19,710 --> 00:32:24,470 and I realized we could have just stood down and said, hey, that's all right, let it go, 404 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:30,490 but this is important to my family. They want this space, they would like to be able to have 405 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:35,770 this hangout space. And then back to the more exigent need, which I addressed in the paperwork, 406 00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:43,430 is that my mother is 76 years old and three years ago was diagnosed with Alzheimer's dementia. 407 00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:47,470 She lives in the Brookdale facility over on Bunker Hill. 408 00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:50,050 I have to attend every doctor's visit with her. 409 00:32:50,150 --> 00:32:50,890 She cannot drive. 410 00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:52,170 We have to drive her everywhere. 411 00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:57,770 And the doctor has told us as of kind of mid last year, you're on a time clock. 412 00:32:58,490 --> 00:33:00,550 She's not going to be able to live by herself anymore. 413 00:33:01,730 --> 00:33:05,710 She's either going to have to go to a home or go with a family member. 414 00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:11,350 And I'm, although I have a brother, he's a special needs person that lives in a home that 415 00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:12,590 where other people care for him. 416 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:19,930 So, I'm her only source of support financially, emotionally, medically, get her doctor's 417 00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:20,130 appointment. 418 00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:23,790 So it would only make sense that she would move in at some point with me. 419 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:27,950 She has a problem kind of remembering where she's at. 420 00:33:28,270 --> 00:33:33,210 So having a half bath kind of located near where she would be sleeping would be very, very 421 00:33:33,210 --> 00:33:34,530 helpful in that situation. 422 00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:41,330 So it went from kind of a desire to provide a space for the kids to hang out to this more 423 00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:45,390 exigent need of my providing a space for my mother until she passes. 424 00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:53,050 My neighbor, who Matt, who I think is going to speak, said that his lived here for a 425 00:33:53,050 --> 00:34:00,050 long time, has said that probably one of the main concerns is for means of egress or safety 426 00:34:00,050 --> 00:34:04,410 concerns on the third, fourth, or fourth fire, but one, we have this sprinkler system. 427 00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:10,530 Two, I've instructed my builder, whatever means of egress needs to be put out there, ladder, 428 00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:15,890 We'll put it in. No problem. I'll bear that extra cost if that's the concern. 429 00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:19,890 From my standpoint, when I look at these kinds of things, when people come in and ask 430 00:34:19,890 --> 00:34:23,890 it for variance, I go, well, how does it affect my neighbors? How does it affect the community 431 00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:28,070 as a large? Well, obviously, this is an inside structure. It's not going to be seen from 432 00:34:28,070 --> 00:34:31,450 the street. Nobody's going to know it's there, so it doesn't affect the public at large. 433 00:34:32,050 --> 00:34:35,830 I've gone around, talked to all of my neighbors, one of which has been gracious enough to show 434 00:34:35,830 --> 00:34:43,470 up they say yeah we agree you should be able to have use of that space so we 435 00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:48,410 just ask for your consideration on this it's really important to my family 436 00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:49,790 I'm happy to ask any questions you have 437 00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:57,310 now anyone else that I just want to 438 00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:59,290 speak to the issue this 439 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:13,920 city for roughly 23 years if you guys remember that 440 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,100 been near a long time, those three lots on Westview were vacant for about 12 years part of that. 441 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,000 So, all three of those homes were built at the same time. I've known this neighborhood to be 442 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,080 really a benefit to the community, which I reflect both in that sense of who they are. 443 00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:35,780 Excuse me, sir. Can you state your name and address so we got it for the record? 444 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,620 My name is Matthew Fleming and I live at 8614 Westview Drive. 445 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:47,200 Thank you, Mr. Jason, to the Scribon Co. on the right facing the home. So I've known them to be 446 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,920 great neighbors, both in the sense of that in comparison to the people that were there before, 447 00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:58,460 known them to be very responsible and very courteous to the people around them. 448 00:35:59,220 --> 00:36:04,960 I share the view of other neighbors. I might also point out that, you know, 449 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120 one of the reasons I don't have a problem with what he's talking about is 450 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,080 they're not changing the roof line. This isn't some giant woman, you know, solar structure that's 451 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:20,820 going to affect the look and feel a little bit bothered. So I'm privy to the information about 452 00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:26,100 their family and I know them to be a good thing, my man. This is very important to me, so 453 00:36:27,260 --> 00:36:30,380 this one should understand the people next door don't have a problem. 454 00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:37,400 Any other comments? 455 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:37,620 Yes. 456 00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:45,220 I just wanted to make one clarifying point. 457 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:50,700 The base was built by Thompson Custom Homes, right, and I understand that a third floor 458 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:51,360 is not allowed. 459 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,540 However, when we purchased a home, we were not made aware of any of those, we weren't made 460 00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:00,020 aware that that was unallowed. 461 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,640 The room where the toilet and the sink are proposed to go already exists, it was already 462 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:15,820 a little door, a little room, it's a closet. And when we moved in, we built in storage space, 463 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:23,260 like shelves for my husband's massive Lego collection. And during this process of wanting to 464 00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:30,800 utilize a space better, we want to be able to add the bathroom. So we're not adding anything, 465 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,720 we're not building anything new. The layout of the room is going to remain the same. 466 00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:43,260 We're just going to add a sofa and a TV and a little snack area for the kids. 467 00:37:43,860 --> 00:37:48,900 And we'd like to have a bathroom. And it's really that simple. I mean, we're not changing anything. 468 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,940 We're just wanting to add a toilet and a sink. And that's it. 469 00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:53,780 I've 470 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:08,160 heard statey 603 Cedardale my question is when they bought the house that they have 471 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:16,200 a title opinion that they have an inspection by a third party was it advertised that this 472 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:29,740 room was finished and who finished it because the regulation is quite specific so that's 473 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:37,220 my question. So I mean, was it advertised as a finished third floor? They'd have to be 474 00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:44,700 taken out or the people who did the inspection should have caught it. And the title company 475 00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,840 should have caught it. That's all I have. 476 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:48,800 Sir, any sort of data questions? 477 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:54,160 This is a public hearing and can we wait till we get to consideration? One of the board members 478 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,240 will ask those questions. 479 00:38:55,240 --> 00:39:05,600 So those are comments and other comments then we will proceed by making a motion to close 480 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:16,640 public hearing at 636 and now we will put forth a motion to approve item number 5. 481 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,080 I know. 482 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,440 Sorry. 483 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:17,880 Move on. 484 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:18,580 I'm going to reply. 485 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:19,520 I've got that guys. 486 00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:21,920 Unfortunately, we don't do this often. 487 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,860 consideration and possible action concerning. 488 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,840 I want to request from Paul Spermanic for a variance from chapter 12 of the City of Spring 489 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:37,540 Valley Village's code ordinances, planning and zoning section 0502.3, no billing or structure 490 00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:43,280 more than two stories, she'll be erected into a lane district A. An expansion of a nonconforming 491 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,540 structure in 18 west view drive in the city of Spring Valley Village, Texas. 492 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:57,560 So motion before us is to approve the variants requested as noted in item five. 493 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:03,980 Second, okay. Now we will proceed with the discussion. 494 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:12,560 I'm sure Scorronic you had comments about the one question posed in public hearing. 495 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:21,820 So it's a question of whether it was advertised that way, absolutely, was we found this house on HAR that when we put the people in. 496 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,100 So yeah, there are some still on HAR website. So the photos that were listed on the. 497 00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:29,660 Not a question, so. 498 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:43,460 So, it's a AI renderer photo where it includes white silver and a glittered table, so it was meant to be used as entertainment flex space. 499 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:50,440 And so, that was definitely a selling point to you, but as our children were being holed up, we were driving it out. 500 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,260 Back in front of school, they go to school and have a gen and have been there for the last eight years. 501 00:40:55,260 --> 00:41:00,500 And so we wanted to find a home that was going to be closer to where their hub was. 502 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,760 And so when we down the house that had the green space, my husband wanted, had all of the 503 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,680 bedrooms on the second floor with the porch to us and had life space for our children that 504 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,260 we need to be bold enough to have, you know, have friends over. 505 00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:18,720 That was a telling point, so we living room on the first floor, the first floor was only 506 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,660 about 1,350. 507 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:27,700 And so it has a small living room, a little study that might have been meeting for its 508 00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,710 feeding space, and it has a kitchen, 509 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,240 which is what led to the entire project being built 510 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,020 on the first site, but for the reason it comes with a big bathroom in the kitchen, and it had 511 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:44,160 a smaller family space right next to the kitchen. 512 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:45,960 And the Lord is now feeding the food. 513 00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:51,080 So, lying this home, knowing that it's going to have a formal living room, having the 514 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,720 to be filmed in space on the third floor, 515 00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:56,460 it would excuse us because we knew that would be a safe space 516 00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:58,220 for our children to come to me. 517 00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:02,580 And so it was advertised as flight space, 518 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,080 and it was a few seven points to us 519 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,020 which was supposed to be in the home. 520 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,720 After losing in the government's way next team, 521 00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:13,080 and then COVID was a reality for us, 522 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,400 totally thereafter I had been covered in a major heart attack. 523 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:19,280 Thankfully, it was hard for me to be able to get into 524 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,620 the hospital and save his life. 525 00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:22,760 but at 40 years old, I think it's almost that. 526 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,800 So after this heart attack is going to try to move forward 527 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,400 with making this house into our home 528 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,920 because it's important for him to be able 529 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,200 to do this market. 530 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,520 And we've engaged in a very friendly process 531 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,420 to get to today. 532 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,880 We did move out this every 20 seconds, 20, 20, 20. 533 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,760 With the expectation that we were going to be able 534 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,820 to move forward with this project and to my understanding 535 00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:49,840 that everything else that we have presented 536 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,640 and it's true that the city has an approved 537 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,500 with the exception of this one type. 538 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:56,560 And it's important for us, as we go into this, 539 00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,420 that we make this huge financial investment 540 00:42:58,420 --> 00:42:59,720 and we do it correctly once 541 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,300 because we are moving out to a cheap effect 542 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:05,600 that we've built this home and 543 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,820 having all the planning 544 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:10,480 and all of the people come in to double check. 545 00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:12,860 And so we remove ourselves around the house 546 00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:13,320 in total, 547 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:28,680 more than we actually came to the house 548 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,420 that it needs a lot to 549 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,940 be able to raise our children. 550 00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:38,260 So I know it may be a little strictly at 50 points 551 00:43:38,260 --> 00:43:42,780 that are being so difficult that it's two daughters, it 552 00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:00,010 wouldn't be a 553 00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:04,190 good 554 00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:09,130 back to your your question on how was advertised to us when we toured the home 555 00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:14,970 to they had children's toys a jungle gym up on a third floor when we toured the 556 00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:20,550 home okay and if anybody else wanted to see the photos I managed to lose them 557 00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:22,610 I'm being very carefully astute 558 00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:34,180 yeah this little bonus room is it built like 559 00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:38,060 up into the eve of the house so you don't know there's a third story. So yeah so actually 560 00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:43,080 yeah is that how it is. So see you see this so this this is the door okay so this right here 561 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:49,140 it's a laundry room and this right here is the third floor. That's the door. So you wouldn't be able 562 00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:55,460 to tell that there's a third story onto the home unless you were able to walk through the house so 563 00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:59,520 So there's no windows except for the dormer. 564 00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:13,670 Not towards the front. From the front. They're giving window on towards the back that looked out to the pool. Okay. And it's all built into the eve, like an attic, a finished attic space bonus room. Got it. 565 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:16,470 It's sleeping up there, they're flat. 566 00:45:16,750 --> 00:45:19,410 It's hanging on the sides, but the ceiling itself is flat. 567 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:22,230 You got ceiling fans from the flat. 568 00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:24,050 Yeah, and I hide all the stuff. 569 00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:26,310 And you have air conditioning up there. 570 00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:29,290 The square footage was included then 571 00:45:29,290 --> 00:45:30,410 when you saw the original plots. 572 00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:32,890 I think I made property tax on that square footage. 573 00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:36,270 Better check your survey, too. 574 00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:40,570 This is the space for questions. 575 00:45:40,570 --> 00:45:41,410 And 576 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,160 let's quite a space. 577 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,320 Yeah. 578 00:45:56,140 --> 00:45:59,400 Just a point clarification, you said you're not making any changes. 579 00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:02,860 Does that mean there's some playing up there already? 580 00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:04,100 You're just making a connection. 581 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,520 No, so no question. 582 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:06,120 Oh, 583 00:46:06,820 --> 00:46:09,440 it's good to name 584 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:13,210 an address. 585 00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:13,810 Yes, 586 00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:18,420 they've been 587 00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:19,980 about as 588 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,440 they stated they live in the home. 589 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,400 So there may be 590 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,320 a number of people. 591 00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:31,400 If they look at those, 592 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120 we don't have to be in as they're AC. 593 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:35,780 This way, 594 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,720 the other egress window. 595 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,960 I believe there's probably 596 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,660 a fund in the care because the best 597 00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:47,680 stated that were apparently used as a closet for a 598 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,370 But it is large enough for a back, 599 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,880 because there's additional clauses stuff. 600 00:46:58,780 --> 00:47:03,040 And my heard after an accident below where that case is? 601 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,460 Does anybody hold the original construction documents? 602 00:47:14,860 --> 00:47:17,420 We have the original, all the original construction documents. 603 00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:19,840 And that goes the third floor up there. 604 00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:21,040 It doesn't? 605 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:21,900 Yeah. 606 00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:25,060 The original construction documents then? 607 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,260 Did the original construction documents show that third floor? 608 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,500 Yes. 609 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:38,680 the approved plans when they built the house and we have the original and 610 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,500 they were in the house and they purchased yeah and they were playing call out 611 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:49,800 the finished schedule is there an approved set of plans from the city 612 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,640 during that construction that shows that third was some customers from 613 00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,300 from touching customers. For me, by not from what I don't want. Well I think that would be pretty 614 00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:10,420 pertinent to this situation. If there are documents that show that the original approved plans 615 00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:19,960 had the third floor on it, that changes the whole base of the steel because one is honestly. 616 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,680 So the city's not required to keep plans that old, so we've the city has to be on time. 617 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,940 I think we're required to keep under any records management in the state of Texas for 618 00:48:48,940 --> 00:48:55,500 permanent retention is any copies of approved permits any plans would not be required to be kept 619 00:48:55,500 --> 00:49:00,300 and actually I know when I started with the city as well as last year so three and a half years ago 620 00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:06,720 as well as last year any plans that the city did have for any homes throughout the city we sent 621 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,660 letters to those homeowners to let them know that there was a plan for destruction of those plans 622 00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:16,860 so that they and we gave them a time to be able to come pick those up so after a certain number of 623 00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:21,320 years we send those letters out because we're not required to keep plans. How 624 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,980 about this since it's a piece of information? I'll bring the original plans. Well 625 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:31,040 did anybody reach out to Thomson to see if he has them? Yeah there's two. 626 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:34,820 Just I'll 627 00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:38,220 have. He doesn't have it? Yeah all right y'all talk to him. 628 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:39,360 Yes, all right, yeah. 629 00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:41,200 The records and results of that. 630 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:42,780 The COVID-19 pandemic. 631 00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:48,280 I think you should remember it firmly and you don't hear very 632 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,860 about homeowners. 633 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,940 Again we're not aware. 634 00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:53,700 I think we're like the third homeowner of the homeowners 635 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,240 before it sold it out of the park base. 636 00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:58,200 Well, this is. 637 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,640 Those are the ones after we provided from the building but. 638 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,780 If you look from that, that first 639 00:50:09,850 --> 00:50:13,330 floor, it says we measure anything who worked out the 640 00:50:13,330 --> 00:50:15,070 existing plans that they had. 641 00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:15,590 Right. 642 00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:20,070 I think the question, though, is was it ever permeated by? 643 00:50:20,110 --> 00:50:22,210 I think it was permeated by the city. 644 00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:24,190 And I don't know that that answers that. 645 00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:24,830 Yeah. 646 00:50:25,410 --> 00:50:28,630 The fact that someone drew it off. 647 00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:31,510 Didn't necessarily mean it was standing permeated that way. 648 00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:39,650 I mean, this is one of those ordinances that is like pretty hard and fast. 649 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:41,930 And it's the average one that's so average. 650 00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:43,670 So, forgiving that, simply. 651 00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:47,550 Which one is that one that's created for through the third or half? 652 00:50:48,610 --> 00:50:52,990 When that's more after, we should be able to accommodate 100 homes. 653 00:50:54,450 --> 00:50:56,150 I personally can't answer that. 654 00:50:56,330 --> 00:50:56,770 Let me see. 655 00:50:56,770 --> 00:50:58,190 I think we see it in front of that real quick. 656 00:50:58,690 --> 00:51:01,590 My memory is that it dates back to the sometime in the 90s. 657 00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:06,970 but yeah, that's my guess too, that's what I can talk about that. 658 00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:09,290 I understand. 659 00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:16,290 This is a very, very tough deal. 660 00:51:16,690 --> 00:51:26,890 I'll tell you right off the bat because basically this board does not have the authority to override an ordinance. 661 00:51:26,890 --> 00:51:30,450 And that's what you're really asking us to do. 662 00:51:31,050 --> 00:51:36,930 Now, if we do that, those construction documents were 663 00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:41,030 had been approved by the city, then all goes out the window. 664 00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:48,550 But hopefully you can understand that if we say, yeah, go ahead and do it. 665 00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:53,250 Now, everybody else has got that same argument. 666 00:51:53,250 --> 00:52:02,810 And that's where there is a process by which the city goes by that says you can get this 667 00:52:02,810 --> 00:52:07,130 variance if you show these elements which we've briefed out in the documents. 668 00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:07,970 Did you show what? 669 00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:09,690 That's what we've briefed out in the documents. 670 00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:13,330 You know, this is not going to be a hardship, a hardship, yeah. 671 00:52:13,950 --> 00:52:19,790 I mean, this sort of ordinance is not a typical for 672 00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:23,330 or the villages are really anything like. 673 00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:25,870 Hillshire Village had the same ordinance. 674 00:52:26,650 --> 00:52:32,750 And two years ago, they modified that ordinance 675 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:35,270 just for this reason. 676 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:43,550 That's why I really feel like this is more a P and Z issue 677 00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:47,510 than something we can answer. 678 00:52:47,510 --> 00:53:05,890 Yeah, given the way the ordinance are written and the fact that the houses, the houses can be occupied, then this just said we just have to say, oh, yeah, this is not compliant and support the building official. 679 00:53:05,890 --> 00:53:14,410 Yeah. Anyway, you had a document that said that those were the approved plans that the city approved 680 00:53:14,410 --> 00:53:22,230 and had to do it and be a different story. Yeah. But short of that, we don't really have the 681 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:31,410 authority to do that. So my suggestion would be to possibly go to P and Z and say, this needs to 682 00:53:31,410 --> 00:53:31,830 you've changed. 683 00:53:34,580 --> 00:53:35,940 I would agree with that. Yeah. 684 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,720 Yeah. Just to modify the ordinance. Yeah. 685 00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:46,120 Because Hillshire changed it just for this reason. Yeah. It was being a long time resident. 686 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:54,820 It was one of those often stated sort of wink wink nod nod. Oh, there's an attic on this 687 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:59,800 store on this house. It's not really a third floor with the expectation that the owner or they've 688 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:05,100 moved in and then eventually finished it out and turned it into a usual space, even to 689 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:09,140 the point of having something more than just an attic, fairway going up there. 690 00:54:11,180 --> 00:54:15,800 I understand, I understand, right. 691 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,900 Y'all are going to make them do anything about it. 692 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,600 It's existing, pre-existing, non-conforming space. 693 00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:28,540 So if they took the bathroom off the table, they could move forward, right? 694 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,020 I would have to stick with the third party card. 695 00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:34,180 With VVG? 696 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,040 Let me answer. 697 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,980 If I know the piece, not make the representation that everyone here said, I wouldn't decide 698 00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:42,400 to change. 699 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:46,960 If I appeared for a third of a minute hearing, can everyone look me in the eye and say, that's 700 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,040 it. 701 00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:48,580 That's just, I don't understand what we have. 702 00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:50,300 If they wish to change that. 703 00:54:51,060 --> 00:54:52,900 I mean, I'm paying by the organization. 704 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,080 My property taxes. 705 00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:55,260 All of the maintenance. 706 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,400 The floor. 707 00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:57,200 All of it. 708 00:54:57,700 --> 00:55:01,540 And I'm paying for the original home, which includes all of the maintenance. 709 00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:07,420 to go along with that, plus the pilot's goal, and we moved here with the expectation 710 00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:09,120 that this would be our forever company. 711 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:11,360 We have made a serious investment. 712 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:16,660 We are dedicated to limiting increased remedial village, we care about the framework, it is 713 00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:22,720 giving us everything that we need, and we're doing, we're paying, I mean, it's a huge investment. 714 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,480 Every single month it goes on, it extends our project team first. 715 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,140 It would be something, if I were to say, I want to build out the entire third floor. 716 00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:32,180 or it already exists if you don't. 717 00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,680 It's just putting a commode and a steam 718 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,080 in a positive forwarding there. 719 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:36,500 That's it. 720 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:39,600 If I have girls, it probably wouldn't be a non-issue, 721 00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:42,820 but we live in the number one sex trafficking city 722 00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:43,320 in America. 723 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,520 I hate to break it to you, 724 00:55:44,580 --> 00:55:45,900 but I need to have a safe space 725 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:47,000 for my children in the club being. 726 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,640 I get it. 727 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,660 That's simply good, that's it. 728 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:49,320 Yeah. 729 00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:54,620 I think that, you know, you can jump forward 730 00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:57,280 by just taking that off the table. 731 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:03,320 So, yeah, I think that would, that would be, we're kind of getting away from just the 732 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,460 discussion of right. 733 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,120 Right, right. 734 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:11,380 The discussion would be, it would definitely explore that to expedite your situation, but 735 00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:18,580 the reason that, that I think most residents in Spring Valley, Billy find it so attractive 736 00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:23,660 is because over the years, we have continued to follow the ordinances that have been put 737 00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:31,040 fourth to protect the city. It may not make sense in just, you know, looking at it right 738 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:38,380 now, but that is one reason that so many of us are here was because we have gotten 739 00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:44,000 together through PNZ, through the city council, we pass the ordinances, and then we live 740 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:52,880 by them. So that's where we are. We don't, we have to decide and we'll vote at some 741 00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:02,540 point and we will have to provide our interpretation of whether or not the ordinance, uh, uh, uh, 742 00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:22,860 variances required is justified and given the ordinance. So it is that the house can't be 743 00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:29,600 with COVID who didn't in July and COVID happened in March and so you know like so we have to 744 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:36,000 take a week and take some time before we can move forward. But it's a big concern because the 745 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,400 home is perfect but it doesn't need to function and it needs to function for our families and 746 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,800 so that's the issue. It's in the five bell that's just going to be a problem for somebody else 747 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,500 because you're getting yourself a lump in some cell and you get that space. 748 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,980 I agree and that is your prerogative and I would hope that maybe we have some way to warn people 749 00:57:53,980 --> 00:58:00,420 going forward that that is not an improved compliance space. But that's that's sort of 750 00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:06,680 the decision that the family has to make I understand. But regarding that we are to 751 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:13,240 the point I think where we need to vote about the in terms of the motion put forward to approve 752 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,420 the variance. Here, nay. 753 00:58:18,550 --> 00:58:21,950 Oppose. Oppose. Oppose. Oppose. Oppose. Oppose. 754 00:58:22,070 --> 00:58:22,070 Anything 755 00:58:26,610 --> 00:58:36,010 else to adjourn? At this point? I sort of find a copy of the August 14, 2024 Board of 756 00:58:36,010 --> 00:58:42,050 Adjustment agenda was posted to stay the night they of August. Just move for adjournment. 757 00:58:42,050 --> 00:58:44,150 And I just move forward, German, all of a second. 758 00:58:45,830 --> 00:58:48,530 Yes, yes, yes, yes.