[0:02] [music] [0:06] Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and [0:08] welcome to city hall for tonight's city [0:10] council meeting and immediately [0:12] thereafter the committee of the whole [0:14] meeting. The council meeting is called [0:16] to order and I kindly ask our city clerk [0:18] to please take the roll call. Bing [0:21] » Here. [0:22] » Fernish [0:22] » Here. [0:23] » Kilber [0:24] » Here. [0:25] » Kasro [0:26] » Here. [0:26] » Malaki [0:27] » Here. [0:28] » Marks. [0:29] » Mayor [0:30] » Here. [0:31] » Poundquist [0:32] » Here. [0:32] » Pashki [0:33] » Here. [0:34] » Ricky [0:34] » Here. [0:36] » We begin our council meetings with the [0:37] pledge of allegiance. It's my pleasure [0:38] to ask our distinguished colleague Alder [0:41] person Furnish to please lead us in the [0:43] pledge. [0:47] I pledge algiance to the flag of the [0:50] United States of America and to the [0:53] republic for which it stands. One nation [0:56] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:59] justice for all. [1:01] » Thank you, sir. [1:05] Our [1:10] first order of business, ladies and [1:12] gentlemen, and an important one indeed, [1:13] is to proclaim September as suicide [1:16] prevention awareness month in the city [1:19] of Geneva. [1:21] » Pashki makes the motion, mayor makes the [1:23] second. All in favor, please indicate by [1:26] saying I. [1:27] » I. Today of course is also 98 day or 988 [1:32] as all of you know an important service [1:35] that this country provides nationally [1:38] and I'm sure most of you have seen those [1:40] posts. So for those of you who share [1:43] that information I know it's appreciated [1:45] and of course the organizations in our [1:46] community who do stellar work on helping [1:49] everybody every age regardless of [1:52] condition regardless of station in life [1:54] who are struggling sometimes with mental [1:56] health. Uh, thank you for unanimously [1:59] passing this proclamation. I'm also [2:01] going to ask uh for indulgence on an [2:03] audible. I'm going to invite a couple [2:05] guys up here to talk now instead of [2:06] having to sit through the entire [2:08] meeting. Gentlemen, we're going to talk [2:09] about the Fox River Cleanup Day. Come on [2:11] up. [2:15] » Good evening. [2:16] » Good evening. [2:16] » Hello. [2:18] » Uh, we're here on behalf of the NRC. I'm [2:20] Calvin Limrich. I don't know if you guys [2:21] know my colleague here, Jay Wack. [2:23] » Never seen the guy. [laughter] [2:25] Uh on Saturday, September 19th at 9:00 [2:28] am, uh we've got two sites. I'll be down [2:31] at uh Fabian Forest Preserve East. You [2:33] may know it as like the windmill forest [2:36] Preserve. Uh we'll be cleaning up trash. [2:38] Jay's got the island park area just next [2:40] to the water treatment plant. Uh so [2:42] we'll be getting in the water at Fabian [2:44] Forest Preserve, provided it's safe. uh [2:46] trying to give it get as much garbage [2:48] out of the Fox River as we can, making [2:50] sure that our park stays clean, and that [2:52] everybody downstream has a good time, [2:54] doesn't have any garbage. [2:55] » Absolutely. [2:57] » Well, and what's nice about this day is [2:58] it's part of a larger entire Fox River [3:01] cleanup day that's organized by Friends [3:03] of the Fox River. [3:04] » So, we're one small piece of the of the [3:07] cleanup. [3:08] » Um but it's a monumental effort to do [3:11] this and um we're really proud. This is [3:14] our 15th or 16th year doing this. [3:17] » Wow. [3:18] » Yeah. I still remember the Geneva High [3:20] School football team trying to carry out [3:22] » A waterlogged tree [3:25] from Highland Park. They were kneede in [3:27] mud. [3:28] » Yeah. [3:28] » And but but they did it. Um it's a lot [3:31] of It's one of our best events. There's [3:33] a lot of people a lot of great [3:34] excitement. Last year was actually it [3:37] was interesting. People were [3:39] disappointed because they only picked up [3:40] a little bit of garbage. [3:41] » But the imagery is awesome though. [3:43] There's so many bags of garbage. And you [3:45] know, Kelvin and I were talking earlier. [3:46] We think you guys just stage that. You [3:48] bring garbage in from elsewhere. You [3:50] » Bring car parts. [3:50] » It always looks kind of the same. Yeah. [3:52] We always get at least one set of tires. [3:54] » Oh my god. [3:55] » Sometimes you'll get a picnic table. [3:56] » Last time I think we got a dock. There [3:58] was I think sometimes you get a doll. [4:00] » Uh some unmentionables. [4:02] » Yep. [4:02] » Yes. [4:03] » Thank [laughter] you for not mentioning [4:04] that. [4:05] » My pleasure. [4:06] » Um but it it's a great event. So, we'd [4:09] love to see anybody that wants to be [4:11] part of it. Come join us. Bring your [4:13] chest waiters, get in the water, um [4:16] where you can. [4:17] » Yeah. [4:18] » But, uh we really appreciate it. We [4:20] appreciate the sport, the proclamation. [4:22] Um everything that we do for our for our [4:25] environment. [4:25] » Of course. Thank you. Floor's open. [4:27] Anybody comments for these two gentlemen [4:29] or [clears throat] [4:30] » Older person Melick? [4:32] » Yes. Uh all the plastic and tarps that [4:34] are by the railroad bridge, leave those [4:36] in place for now. So, [4:37] » You got it. You know, [laughter] we need [4:38] those for a little while. [4:39] » You promise. [4:42] » What are those for? [4:46] » Oh, that Oh, I thought I thought, "Oh my [4:48] god, what the heck's over [laughter] [4:48] there?" So, [4:49] » As long [snorts] [4:51] as they promise to take it back out when [4:54] they're done, [4:55] » Right? [4:56] » Yeah. [4:57] » Anyone else? [4:59] » Thank you both. [5:00] » Absolutely. [5:01] » Thank you. [5:01] » Thank you. Our next item of business, [5:05] 3B, [5:07] is to hear from and benefit from some [5:09] work being done by our friends at the [5:12] Lakota Group, [5:14] including but not limited to the city of [5:15] Geneva's comprehensive plan existing [5:19] conditions report. [5:22] The floor is yours. Welcome. [5:23] » Thank you. [5:26] And I should add uh we are going to [5:28] field questions following the [5:30] presentation as opposed to during. So [5:33] the floor is yours and when you wrap it [5:35] up just give us the queue and I'm sure [5:36] there'll be a couple [5:38] » Dozen questions. [5:40] » Absolutely. Thank you mayor and thank [5:41] you city council members for having us [5:43] tonight. My name is Hannah Bader and I [5:45] am vice president with the Lakota group. [5:47] Uh we are the urban planning firm who is [5:49] leading the comprehensive plan update. [5:52] Um I would be remiss to not recognize [5:54] our other subs who are with us. We have [5:56] SB Freriedman who is focused on the [5:57] market assessment as well as V3 V3 who [6:01] is focused on transportation and [6:02] infrastructure. So it's important as a [6:05] team that we come together and kind of [6:06] think of it as one integral system. [6:09] Um so just so you guys kind of know what [6:11] we're going through today, I'm going to [6:12] begin by setting the stage. So really [6:14] talking about our process, um the [6:17] engagement that's been done and really a [6:18] reminder of just what a comprehensive [6:20] plan is. Um and then we'll dive into the [6:23] existing conditions overview. We're [6:24] going to kind of keep this high level, [6:25] but we'll go section by section from [6:27] that report we that was shared. Um and [6:30] just talk about some of the key findings [6:31] that we had. Um and then as mayor [6:34] mentioned, we will leave an open [6:35] discussion at the end and then just [6:36] quickly talk with you all about what our [6:38] next steps are from here. [6:41] So just a quick review of uh our project [6:44] approach to this. Uh we have a [6:45] threephrase phase process and right now [6:47] we're kind of at the end of this first [6:49] phase. engage and assess. Um, and this [6:51] is really all about building a [6:53] foundation of who Geneva is today. And [6:54] this was done through a robust robust [6:56] community engagement um, process, which [6:59] we'll share a little bit about in a [7:00] second. Um, and then really just our [7:02] assessment of housing, economic [7:04] development, transportation, land use. [7:07] Um, so this really culminated in what [7:09] you all have, the existing conditions [7:11] report that tries to capture what those [7:13] key challenges and opportunities are of [7:14] Geneva today. Um, and from that [7:17] assessment, we'll dive into phase two, [7:18] which is envision. And this is really [7:20] where we're going to start testing ideas [7:22] and try to define a community vision for [7:25] Geneva 240. So, we're looking out the [7:27] next 15 years, 15, 20 years. Um, so this [7:30] is where we'll come up with some [7:31] solutions to some of the opportunities [7:33] or challenges we identified. Um, and [7:35] we'll bring those ideas, whether they're [7:38] through policy objectives, land use [7:40] strategy, or um, opportunity site [7:43] graphics and visuals. um we'll bring [7:45] that to the community um steering [7:47] committee and leadership as well just to [7:49] test and vet those ideas to ensure that [7:51] we're coming up with a vision that is [7:53] reflective of Geneva. And from there [7:55] once we've kind of tested those we'll uh [7:57] jump into phase three which is really [7:59] the plan and implement. So this is where [8:01] we build that FA framework around [8:03] strategies for the future and we create [8:05] a roadmap that you all can use an actual [8:06] tool to um kind of bring the the city [8:09] towards this overall vision that we come [8:11] with come up with. [8:14] Um, so before we dive into the existing [8:16] conditions report, I just wanted to uh [8:18] flash this for what a comprehensive plan [8:20] is. As I mentioned, we're calling this [8:23] Geneva 20 240. So we're looking out the [8:25] next 10 to 20 years. Um, it's a [8:27] strategic roadmap that's outlining a [8:30] long-term vision for growth and [8:31] development for the community. Um, we [8:34] want this to inform city decisions on [8:36] land use and zoning. So this is going to [8:38] help be that guidance and that tool that [8:40] you all use to um think through [8:42] development decisions. Um this is really [8:45] important. We want this to be a [8:46] community vision. So we want to make [8:48] sure that this is capturing public input [8:50] and their values and goals. Um you know [8:52] we want the public to recognize this is [8:54] thinking long term. So we're thinking of [8:56] not just today but the next generation. [8:58] Um but it's important that we recognize [9:00] what are our strengths today and what do [9:02] we want to make sure is still here. um [9:04] while also leaving room for it to be [9:06] flexible and evolving for the future. Um [9:09] and lastly, it's really we're creating [9:11] policy and direction. We're not creating [9:13] development plans. We're not creating [9:15] something that's going to happen [9:16] tomorrow, but it's really giving [9:17] direction and guidance for that growth [9:19] and development to be reflective of a [9:20] larger vision. [9:23] Um so, as I keep mentioning, community [9:25] engagement is a super important part of [9:27] this. We want it to be um a part of the [9:30] entire process to kind of capture what's [9:32] been done so far. We began this with um [9:35] creating a a project website um where [9:38] we've had over 700 uh individuals visit [9:41] that website and this is really the hub [9:42] of information for the process. This is [9:44] where we'll put all project updates um [9:47] and opportunities to get involved. We [9:49] also hosted focus groups where we spoke [9:51] with over 80 individuals from residents, [9:54] business owners, um, neighboring [9:56] communities, leadership, um, to help us [9:58] to try to get more of a targeted [10:00] understanding of what people see as [10:02] those key opportunities and issues. Um, [10:05] and from there, we had a community [10:07] meeting. Um, this was a Geneva [10:08] conversations event where we came [10:10] together and sat around and spoke about [10:13] six different topics with um, local [10:15] residents. Um, and for those who weren't [10:18] able to attend, we also created an [10:19] online survey. So, that got about 400 [10:22] responses, which seems small for the [10:24] size of Virginia's population, but I [10:26] will say we work with a lot of [10:27] communities in the region and [10:28] nationally, and this is one of the [10:30] higher response rates. We're very used [10:32] to getting 60. If we can push it above [10:34] 100, we're happy. So, um, it's great to [10:36] see the level of online involvement [10:38] here. [10:40] And from those conversations, I won't go [10:42] into all of these because we have a lot [10:43] to cover today, but here were a couple [10:45] of the key community themes that arose. [10:47] Um, we heard a lot about housing and [10:49] this desire to see more affordable and [10:51] diverse options. Um, interest in [10:54] preserving character while we're [10:56] allowing for this growth, making sure [10:58] that we're making that growth where we [11:00] need more affordable housing and [11:02] diversity of housing happen in the right [11:04] places and locations. Um and a lot of [11:07] conversations came back to safety and [11:09] walkability as well as the downtown and [11:11] Fox River Grove or Fox River. [11:14] Um so stepping back from those [11:16] conversations um you know this kind of [11:18] led to some key planning considerations [11:21] um about Geneva and just current [11:24] conditions that kind of will inform some [11:26] of the comprehensive plan. Um but this [11:28] is really looking at I'll just read a [11:30] couple of those is recognizing the aging [11:32] population um and this need for [11:35] affordable housing and diversity of [11:37] housing options. That is certainly [11:38] something that's going to inform and [11:40] influence a lot of decisions [11:42] um while also balancing growth and [11:44] community character which is a hard [11:46] thing for us to do and one of the [11:47] challenges we're going to face as we [11:49] craft this larger vision. [11:52] A couple of other PR planning [11:53] considerations I'll focus on are um how [11:56] we can continue to preserve the historic [11:59] preservation in the community um and [12:02] preserve those independent businesses um [12:04] while also recognizing that there are [12:07] larger vis vision and changing retail [12:09] and housing trends as well. [12:13] Um so now we're going to dive into the [12:15] actual report. We're going to go chapter [12:16] by chapter and kind of highlight some of [12:18] those key findings for you all. Um the [12:21] first chapter that we looked at was [12:22] really a community profile. So this was [12:24] trying to capture some of those trends [12:26] that are happening from population and [12:28] employment and also recognize that we [12:31] are more than just our boundaries, but [12:33] we are in a regional context um and how [12:35] that also influences some of our um [12:38] influences our change over the next 10 [12:40] years. [snorts] [12:41] Um, so this is really just capturing [12:43] Genev Geneva's uh location within the [12:45] region, recognizing that it's a part of [12:47] the Fox River um valley and the Tri [12:50] Cities um and how that also influences [12:53] some some things. And I think from a a [12:55] market assessment and demographic [12:57] assessment, we also used these as [13:00] different um comparable communities to [13:02] just kind of um show a comparison of [13:04] what is happening within these within [13:06] Geneva. [13:09] A couple things to note about the [13:10] population. Um, some key important ones [13:13] are Geneva is aging in place. Um, so the [13:16] older adult population is increasing [13:18] while children, younger adults, and [13:20] midlife adults are declining. Um, and [13:23] this is contributing to a rising median [13:26] age, but is also going to be [13:27] contributing to changing household [13:29] needs. So recognizing that um you know [13:32] what where the housing needs is going to [13:34] be important as we move forward because [13:36] that's going to be shifting as the [13:37] demographics are shifting. [13:40] Um another part of this piece and [13:42] something that is con recognizable or [13:44] another indicator that we are an aging [13:46] in place is that households are getting [13:48] smaller. Um this is likely to do to do [13:51] with a smaller household size because we [13:53] are aging as well. Um so just another [13:55] factor to that is going to inform um [13:58] housing needs. [14:01] Another thing to note is that Geneva is [14:03] affluent and highly educated educated um [14:06] but it is less diverse than Kain County. [14:08] Um so high and rising incomes will [14:11] increase the purchasing power. Um but [14:13] this is also likely placing pressures on [14:16] housing affordability citywide. Um so [14:19] just you know when we look at it [14:20] compared to surrounding communities as [14:23] well as the county it is um a higher [14:25] income population. [14:29] And then for employment tren trends um [14:32] there are jobs that are increasing in [14:33] Geneva but non-residents are still [14:36] making up a majority of the city's [14:38] workforce. Um about 86% of Geneva's [14:42] residents are commuting outside of the [14:44] city. Um I think something else we'll [14:46] recognize and I think is pretty common [14:48] nationwide is that um about [14:52] the percentage of people who are working [14:54] from home has doubled since 2019. So um [14:57] you know this comes with its pros and [14:59] cons. There's more daytime activity [15:01] within the community, but it's also [15:02] import impacting things like local [15:04] transportation and kind of that increase [15:07] in housing cost as well. [15:10] Um so now we're going to dive into the [15:13] market assessment. Um this really [15:14] evaluated the conditions from a housing, [15:17] commercial and industrial um market [15:19] perspective so that we could better [15:21] understand what some of those economic [15:22] challenges will be moving forward. [15:26] Um starting with housing um Geneva's [15:29] housing stock as we've probably [15:30] recognized is largely single family [15:33] homes. Um mo most of these are owner [15:35] occupied but there is some recent [15:38] development that is happening that it is [15:39] adding some housing variety. um this new [15:42] construction remains sight limited and [15:46] sight driven just because we are so [15:48] landlocked in the community. We're going [15:50] after um more of those places where it [15:52] is amendable to see this housing [15:55] diversity um and larger sites where it's [15:57] more feasible within the market to have [16:00] that happen. So, just to mark some of [16:02] those recent projects on the right, you [16:04] can see some of those ones that are [16:05] happening right around downtown. [16:08] Um, and we've kind of mentioned this a [16:11] couple of times, but um, housing [16:13] affordability remains a challenge within [16:16] the community. It is increasing um, and [16:18] it's significantly impacting renters as [16:21] well as those middle inome households. [16:24] Right now, Geneva has about 580 [16:26] affordable units within the community. [16:28] So, that's about 7.3%. [16:30] Um, and the state has a 10% requirement. [16:33] So, we're still sitting below that [16:35] threshold, but as we talked about with [16:37] housing constraints and issues there, um [16:39] it's going to be a challenge to achieve [16:41] those just with land costs and limited [16:44] space for us to actually develop and [16:46] bring in those options. [16:49] And then just to continue on that [16:51] affordability, housing costs are rising [16:52] across ownership and rental markets. So [16:55] um this is not something that we're just [16:57] experiencing um in Geneva, but it is um [17:00] in the region also happening in the [17:02] county, but it's happening at a higher [17:04] rate than um the county in Geneva. So [17:09] just kind of for us to consider as we [17:11] move forward looking at housing, um [17:13] we're going to have to consider how the [17:15] household changes, household needs are [17:17] changing because of demographic changes. [17:20] um as well as how these housing costs [17:22] impact um different needs. [snorts] [17:26] So, switching gears and going towards [17:28] retail, um Geneva's retail market is [17:31] largely built out. Similarly to the [17:33] housing, we are landlocked. There's [17:35] limited space for it. Um and it'll [17:37] likely any reinvestment in retail is [17:39] going to come through reinvestment as re [17:41] well as repositioning. [17:44] The assessment for retail took a look at [17:46] four different retail corridors. um two [17:49] along Randall Road, the downtown and [17:52] East State Street. [17:54] So, zooming into Randall Road corridor, [17:56] there are two areas where um regional [18:00] retail is happening. Um the first to the [18:02] north is Geneva Commons. Um and if you [18:05] kind of take a look at the stats that [18:06] are in pink, this is currently [18:08] experiencing about 9% vacancy rate. Um [18:11] and this is has one of the higher per [18:13] square footage rental costs. So, it's [18:15] about $34 per square feet. Um, and this [18:18] is, you know, the concentration of more [18:20] upscale national retailers in this area. [18:23] And then the southern end of Randall [18:25] Road, which is we're calling the South [18:27] Randall corridor or subary, sorry, [18:30] sorry. Um, this is you're seeing more [18:32] larger footput in retail stores, grocery [18:34] stores, those home improvement, and [18:36] those national brand tenants. Um, this [18:39] is about a 14% vacancy and a little [18:43] lower of a cost per square footage. It's [18:45] about $24 per square ft. [snorts] [18:49] And then the downtown is another major [18:51] economic and cultural destination for [18:54] retail. Um they currently have a very [18:57] strong retail occupancy at about 1% [19:00] vacancy. Um about $22 per square feet in [19:04] this location. Um, and a lot of this is [19:07] due, as you guys know, to the activity [19:09] that's happening downtown, the [19:10] independent businesses, um, and the [19:13] activity and community identity that [19:15] comes with this place as well. So, I [19:17] [snorts] think there is a lot of [19:19] opportunity here, but also a lot already [19:20] happening that we want to make sure as [19:22] we're moving forward that we continue to [19:24] do what's already done in this area. Um, [19:26] and then the graphic in the lefthand [19:28] corner, you'll just see this is showing [19:30] the share of total total visits. So, [19:32] it's pretty steady. there are a lot of [19:34] people who are downtown, but you can [19:35] definitely see that spike from Thursday [19:37] to Saturday where that visitation [19:39] increases. [19:42] And the last sub area we'll focus in on [19:44] is East State Street. Um this is right [19:47] adjacent to downtown. The reason it's [19:49] kind of a separate sub area is because [19:51] the character of that retail is slightly [19:53] different from the downtown. Um you'll [19:56] notice that the retail uses are a little [19:58] bit more spaced out and some of those [20:00] uses are more autooriented. [20:02] Um, so just the people who are looking [20:04] for those spaces tend to be different [20:06] from the tenants who are looking [20:07] downtown. Um, and if you take a look at [20:10] the vacancy rate, this is also pretty [20:11] low. It's only about 4% or 3.7% vacancy. [20:15] Um, and it's definitely a lower dollar [20:17] per square footage, so about $19. So, [20:20] it's certainly a more affordable option [20:22] for um, new retail users. [20:28] And then we just wanted to highlight [20:29] here as well just how many new [20:32] businesses have happened since TW um [20:34] 2020 I think it is. Sorry my eyes can't [20:36] see that far but um I think it's about [20:38] 220 new uh new businesses since uh 2020. [20:42] Um and then this is just showing that [20:44] there is market interest in Geneva and [20:46] that this will continue to go up. So, [20:48] it's important that we capture this and [20:50] ensure that as we're thinking about the [20:52] next 10 to 15 years, we're recognizing, [20:55] you know, what has been done well so far [20:57] um and if there's other strategies that [20:59] we can continue to keep up that [21:01] attraction um and retention of our [21:03] businesses. [21:06] And then lastly for the market [21:07] assessment, this is really that [21:09] industrial piece. Um industrial [21:11] development is a growing component of [21:13] Geneva's economic base. Um this is [21:16] certainly due to the its location near [21:19] rail in the highway as well as its [21:21] proximity to DuPage airport. Um right [21:25] now there's approximately 5 million [21:26] square foot of existing industrial space [21:29] and there is 4 million in the pipeline. [21:32] Um a lot of that new development that is [21:34] happening and you'll kind of see on that [21:36] map it shows where the location of this. [21:37] So it's um southeast of the comm south [21:41] eastern edge of the community. So, a lot [21:44] of this is due in part to that southeast [21:46] sub area plan which is positioning for a [21:48] lot of that new um inventory of um [21:52] industrial [clears throat] development [21:53] that is happening. Um and this document [21:55] here will certainly be a guide for us as [21:57] we think about industrial and bringing [21:59] forward some of those key [22:00] recommendations and goals. [22:04] Um so now switching gears a little bit, [22:06] we're going to talk about community [22:07] character and identity. So, this chapter [22:09] really tried to focus in on those [22:12] historic development patterns, the [22:14] neighborhoods, um, open space, and kind [22:17] of those regulations that were in put in [22:18] place that shaped who Geneva is today. [22:22] Um, so looking at land use here, um, I [22:25] won't dive or nerd out too much about [22:27] the details here, but I think some [22:29] important things to note are just, you [22:31] know, the number one use here is open [22:33] space. We heard that a lot from the [22:35] community is it's one of the strengths [22:36] of Geneva. Um and a lot of that is in [22:39] part to the preservation that has was [22:41] done on the western edge past Peek Road. [22:44] Um and then the second largest use in [22:46] the community is single family detached [22:48] homes. This is very in line with what we [22:50] were seeing from um this percentage of [22:53] housing types in the community being [22:55] single family. Um and you can kind of [22:57] tell where those are located just off of [22:59] some of those main retail corridors. [23:03] Um and then the other piece to note is [23:06] uh the third largest is actually [23:07] institutional uses. Um and a lot of this [23:10] has to do with the city services um that [23:12] are provided both by the city and our [23:14] partners um as well as um Kain County [23:17] being seated here as well. [23:22] So just taking a quick look at the [23:24] downtown here. Um there was a section [23:26] within here that kind of gave a more [23:28] localized zoomed in uh assessment of the [23:30] downtown land uses. Um and I think you [23:33] know the assessment here that we wanted [23:34] to kind of portray in this was um one [23:37] recognizing some of the historic assets [23:39] that have kind of made it to be the [23:41] downtown it currently is today. Um the [23:44] other for this as well is recognizing [23:46] how there are so many public [23:48] institutions within the downtown. um and [23:50] how that kind of created this anchor to [23:52] begin with and the history of why um it [23:54] is so strong. And then the other piece [23:57] to recognize is the metra in the [23:59] downtown as well. So that's very [24:00] contributing to why this has become such [24:02] a walkable environment. Um and I think [24:05] it poses a great opportunity as we move [24:07] forward to consider some of those um [24:09] opportunity sites that might exist [24:11] around the downtown and how they can [24:12] continue to strengthen um the assets of [24:15] the of the downtown. [24:18] Um here we included a piece on the [24:21] historic preservation as a part of this. [24:22] This is really just recognizing um this [24:25] those historical land landmarks that [24:27] exist within the community as well as [24:29] the historic district boundaries um and [24:31] how that really informs the development [24:34] patterns that are happening in those [24:35] area and will also inform any future [24:37] development and land use. So, just for [24:40] us to consider as we move forward is how [24:42] those impact the um development patterns [24:45] um and also how we can use those as a [24:48] economic development tool and um a way [24:50] to continue to strengthen the downtown [24:52] and surrounding neighborhoods. [24:56] And then through our assessment, we also [24:58] identified some opportunity sites. These [25:00] were identified through our [25:02] conversations with the community as well [25:03] as um with city staff. these kind of [25:06] rose to the top as locations that within [25:09] the time frame of this plan have the [25:10] potential to change um whether it's uses [25:13] or just redevelopment of those [25:15] particular sites. Um I won't go into too [25:18] too much detail, but I'll kind of point [25:19] out a couple of them. The first is State [25:22] and Seventh Street um in the downtown [25:24] area, the vacancy right off the rail [25:26] railroad and the surrounding kind of [25:28] commercial areas around there. Um those [25:30] came up in a lot of our conversations [25:32] with community members as an opportunity [25:34] site. um they saw it as a place that [25:36] could benefit from change um and also be [25:39] an opportunity to bring different [25:41] housing products to the downtown. [25:44] Um a couple of the other ones, number [25:47] five, old mill race in I know you guys [25:49] know as well as we do this comes up in [25:52] all conversations too just as um a [25:54] potential to be a higher and better use. [25:56] We've included some parcels around there [25:58] as well because we want to look at the [26:00] impact it could have on this gateway [26:02] into the downtown and the potential of [26:05] uh reimagining that site and some of the [26:07] ones surrounding it as well, just the [26:09] larger impact it can have. Um and then [26:11] the other ones I'll mention are number [26:13] four, Betavia Avenue to the south. This [26:16] is an incur in current um industrial [26:18] user and some open spaces. Um again [26:22] another gateway into the community and [26:24] how we can kind of reimagine this as a [26:26] place where we can bring some additional [26:28] um land to address other uh issues that [26:32] are happening in the community whether [26:34] that is a housing need or additional [26:36] industrial uses. [26:39] So jumping on to city assets um this [26:42] really this chapter was really an [26:43] inventory of what services we currently [26:46] provide both from a city standpoint as [26:47] well as our partners. Um, so this was [26:50] looking at, you know, the park district, [26:52] public library, the schools, um, fire [26:55] department, Kain County, and recognizing [26:56] those services that we provide. Um, it's [26:59] important when we do our assessment that [27:01] we recognize what exists, um, so that we [27:04] make sure that we're maintaining and [27:06] preserving those uh, services as we look [27:08] to the future. Um, and also trying to [27:10] identify gaps that might exist in those [27:12] as well. [27:14] Um, so this community facilities, I [27:16] won't go into too much detail, but this [27:17] is really outlining kind of where those [27:19] services are in the community, where [27:21] there might be gaps in those, um, and [27:23] where there opportunities to bring new [27:25] services. [27:28] Parks and recreation, we heard a lot [27:29] from the community about just how strong [27:32] the open space is here. Um, so we wanted [27:35] to take an opportunity to map out not [27:37] just the park district properties but [27:38] the non-p park district properties as [27:40] well to have a strong inventory of what [27:42] open space exists and who those [27:44] providers are. Um this helps us to kind [27:47] of identify where there might be gaps in [27:49] walkable um access to some of those [27:52] parks and open space and also as we kind [27:54] of layer on which Peter will talk about [27:57] that kind of mobility um component of [27:59] this plan. It really helps us identify [28:01] where there might be gaps in the future [28:03] that we want to prioritize filling. [28:07] And then we just also wanted to [28:08] highlight the facilities master plan [28:09] that has been done. um this will be a [28:11] guiding tool for us to understand, you [28:14] know, where we need to maintain and [28:15] modernize our city facilities so that we [28:17] can consider that as we're um kind of [28:20] showing land use strategies and land use [28:22] change that we're bringing forward these [28:23] recommendations. [28:26] So, I'm going to pause talking and I'm [28:28] going to pass it on to Peter to talk a [28:29] little bit about community systems. [28:37] » Uh good evening. I'm Peter Rhinoffer [28:40] with uh V3 Companies [28:42] and um I'm excited to be here to talk [28:45] about some infrastructure for Geneva. So [28:48] um just want to spend a couple minutes [28:50] uh you know highlighting what we learned [28:51] from the existing transportation [28:53] conditions analysis uh particularly how [28:56] Geneva's roadway fun network functions [28:59] today and how that relates to future [29:00] planning. Uh the important thing is to [29:03] understand about Geneva is that it's not [29:05] just a simply a local roadway network [29:07] within the city itself. Geneva functions [29:10] within a large much larger Fox River [29:12] Valley transportation system. We have we [29:15] have regional traffic moving through the [29:17] community, residents traveling outside [29:20] of the community and businesses, [29:22] schools, and downtown destinations [29:24] generating local trips. [29:26] At the same time, Geneva has some unique [29:28] characteristics that influence [29:29] transportation. I think we can all agree [29:31] that the Fox River is a gem for uh for [29:33] the city. However, it is also a [29:36] transportation constraint. [29:38] There are only two roadway bridges [29:40] crossing the river within the city [29:41] within the city. So, traffic naturally [29:44] tends to concentrate at at those at [29:45] those locations for for east west [29:47] travel. [29:49] Uh one of the overarching themes that [29:51] we're seeing and what we heard about [29:52] from from the public is that Geneva has [29:54] a pretty diverse transportation system. [29:56] It includes major regional roadways, a [29:59] local street network, metro station, [30:02] pace bus routes, sidewalks, bicycle [30:05] facilities, and and various trails um [30:08] through the city. So within the first uh [30:10] within that context, the first thing [30:12] that we looked at was how the roadway [30:14] network is categorized. [30:16] Um the roadway system has a hierarchy [30:18] and different roads serve different [30:20] purposes within the city. This map shows [30:23] Geneva's functional classification [30:25] system. Funal classification is [30:28] essentially the hierarchy of the roadway [30:30] network. It tells us what roads are [30:32] primarily intended to do. Whether their [30:34] primary purpose is moving traffic, [30:36] collecting traffic from neighborhoods, [30:38] or providing direct access to individual [30:40] properties. [30:42] At the top of the hierarchy are the [30:43] principal arterials [30:45] uh with within and within the city that [30:48] includes State Street, Randall Road, [30:50] Kirk Road, and a portion of Fabian [30:52] Parkway. [30:54] These roads are designed to carry higher [30:56] traffic volumes and provide regional [30:58] connections through the city. They are [31:01] also the roads where we see the greatest [31:02] interaction between local and regional [31:04] traffic. [31:05] The next level is a minor streets, minor [31:07] arterial system which includes Illinois [31:10] 25, Illinois 31 and a couple other [31:13] roadways uh through town. [31:15] Then we have the collector roads such as [31:17] Briter Anderson Division and a number of [31:20] others. Um, and these roads serve an [31:23] important middle ground. They move [31:26] traffic between between the local street [31:28] network and the larger arterial system [31:30] while still providing access to adjacent [31:32] businesses um and and other uses. [31:36] And finally, a majority of the streets [31:37] within this within this city are the [31:39] local streets and these part primary [31:41] purpose for these is is providing access [31:43] rather than moving through traffic. [31:47] One of the things that you know that [31:48] that that we're going to consider when [31:49] we're when we take this to the next step [31:51] with the comprehensive plan is that not [31:53] every roadway should be expected to [31:54] function the same way. A principal [31:56] arterial should be evaluated differently [31:58] than a neighborhood street. And as we [32:01] get into the recommendations, we'll want [32:02] to make sure that improvements are [32:05] consistent with the intended function of [32:07] each roadway. [32:10] So the next thing that we looked at then [32:12] was the traffic volumes along the city [32:15] roadways. [32:17] Tra this map um illustrates the the [32:20] volumes which kind of hard to see up [32:22] here with those tiny numbers but um [32:26] the highest the the highest volume [32:27] roadways within within the city are as [32:30] everyone can probably guess is Randall [32:31] Road, State Street, Fabian Parkway and [32:35] Kirk Road. These roads generally carry [32:38] over 25,000 vehicles per day and I think [32:40] Randall is even over 30,000 vehicles per [32:42] day um on a daily basis and these these [32:46] corridors reflect you know their [32:47] regional regional mobility function. Uh [32:51] by comparison many of the collector [32:52] roadways and within the city carry carry [32:54] between five to about 15,000 probably [32:57] closer to the 10,000 range. Um and then [33:00] volumes drop substantially when we start [33:02] looking at some of the some of the local [33:03] roadways. [33:05] So this what I find interesting is that [33:08] the traffic volume map really functions [33:11] or really reinforces the functional [33:13] classification map that that that we [33:14] just looked at. The roads that are are [33:16] intended to move regional and citywide [33:18] traffic are in fact carrying the highest [33:20] volumes. [33:22] The challenge is going to be that some [33:23] of these high volume corridors also pass [33:26] through or adjacent to areas where we [33:29] want to encourage walking and bicycling [33:32] uh promoting access to businesses, [33:34] promoting act community activity. So [33:37] that that's going to create an important [33:38] balancing act as we move forward which [33:40] is to maintain mobility while also [33:43] improving the experience and safety of [33:46] people walking and biking along along [33:47] some of these roadways. [33:52] The next thing we looked at is the road [33:54] roadway jurisdiction. So basically who [33:56] who owns the roadways. And this is [33:58] another important piece of information [33:59] from a planning perspective. [34:02] As you can see, the city does not own or [34:05] control many of the roadways that are [34:06] the most important to the community's [34:07] transportation system. IDOT is [34:10] responsible for State Street, Illinois [34:12] 25, and Illinois 31. The county is [34:15] responsible for Fabian Parkway, Kirk, [34:19] uh, Randall Road, and Peek Road and and [34:21] a couple other roadways. [34:23] Um, so what's really interesting is when [34:25] you put this jurisdiction map next to [34:27] the volume map and even the functional [34:28] classification map, you kind of layer [34:30] everything together is that many of [34:31] Geneva's highest volume roadways are not [34:33] actually even city roads. So when we [34:36] talk about future improvements whether [34:37] it's Randall Road, State Street, Kirk [34:39] Road, um the city can't necessarily [34:43] implement their own improvements by by [34:45] themselves that [34:48] they will have to um you know work with [34:50] the ID dot and the county or whoever [34:53] maintains those roads to develop a plan [34:55] and and and work with them. So what's [34:57] really important from that perspective [34:59] is that who controls the roadway, who [35:01] maintains it and funds the improvements [35:03] and what the process is required to make [35:05] those to make the changes that the city [35:07] wants to see along these corridors. [35:09] So for example, if Geneva want [35:11] identifies improvements along State [35:12] Street or Randall Road, you can't just [35:14] go out there and make the improvements [35:15] yourself. you have to it's going to [35:18] require coordination, design, review, [35:21] permitting, funding participation, and [35:24] approval from from IDOT or the county. [35:27] So as we as we kind of move forward from [35:29] from from this perspective, the plan is [35:32] um we'll identify not only what [35:33] improvements Geneva would like to see, [35:35] but also who needs to be at the table to [35:36] make those improvements really happen. [35:44] From a non-motorized perspective, um the [35:48] city really is starting from a strong [35:49] foundation. Uh there are there are many [35:52] areas where [35:54] there are sidewalks throughout most of [35:56] the developed areas. Um there's an [35:58] established trail system. There are [35:59] bicycle facilities and obviously most [36:01] importantly the the Fox River Trail that [36:03] runs north south um through town. [36:06] Uh but when we look when we look beyond [36:08] those individual facilities, the bigger [36:10] question becomes how well everything [36:13] connects together. [36:15] The existing conditions analysis ident [36:16] has identified various gaps within the [36:18] network. [36:20] um that uh that that [36:24] let me try that again. [36:26] We've identified gaps in the network um [36:30] to uh to connect both the bicycle and [36:33] and and pedestrian networks to [36:34] themselves and even to the trail itself. [36:36] To me, one of the biggest one of the [36:38] biggest gaps at the south side of the of [36:39] the of the city connecting to the um the [36:44] Fox River Trail. There really are there [36:46] are very few connections to get [36:48] community residents or businesses to to [36:51] be able to access to access the trail. [36:54] Um [36:57] when we met with the public, you know, [36:59] they they really re they really [37:00] reinforce that same issue. So, um, [37:02] people aren't necessar necessarily [37:04] saying that Geneva doesn't have [37:05] sidewalks or trails or have have a good [37:07] network. They're saying that sometimes [37:09] the connection between those facilities [37:11] isn't very intuitive, comfortable, or [37:13] even safe from their perspective. So, I [37:16] think from a I think from an opportunity [37:17] perspective, I think we're going to look [37:19] beyond simply adding more individual [37:20] bike facilities or more sidewalks or [37:22] trails, but kind but but kind of look at [37:24] how can we how can we create a creative [37:26] network within the city. [37:28] um the opportunity to really connect the [37:30] pieces that already exist, the [37:32] neighborhoods, the schools, the [37:34] downtown, the neighborhoods of the metro [37:36] station, um and the local facilities to [37:38] the regional trail system. [37:43] So, I think that's kind of what we were [37:45] uh wanted to present from our existing [37:46] munitions analysis. Um kind of want to [37:49] leave to you guys and hear what you guys [37:51] have to say. [37:54] » Thank you both. Now time for questions [37:56] and comments from the deis. Whoever is [37:59] interested in perhaps exploring [38:02] that opportunity. Just raise your hand [38:03] and we'll recognize you. [38:06] » Yeah. And we left this open for just [38:08] letting us know anything if something [38:10] surprised you, if you felt there was [38:11] something missing in this assessment. Um [38:13] and then mainly kind of as we look [38:15] forward and start thinking about [38:17] opportunities and things we want to [38:18] address, um what do you feel is kind of [38:20] the primary focus or things we should [38:22] consider? [38:26] I'll kick it off. Was there anything [38:28] that you two found surprising [38:32] by the 1100 some odd comments that you [38:35] receive both in person and online? [38:39] » Um I don't think anything was terribly [38:42] surprising from what we heard. I think [38:43] um you know staff and leadership when we [38:46] kind of came into this process [38:47] identified some things that they were we [38:49] were likely to hear. So, um, and what is [38:52] common in most communities is there's [38:53] two sides of those two. So, I think a [38:55] lot of conversations that we heard had, [38:57] things that came top of mind, housing [38:59] affordability, housing diversity, the [39:02] downtown, um, mobility and safety, you [39:05] know, there was always two perspectives [39:07] to that. Um, and I think that's, you [39:09] know, part of the challenge and part of [39:10] our job is to kind of find that common [39:12] denominator or the thing that we want to [39:14] address most or what is the underlying [39:16] vision that we're trying to achieve [39:17] there. So, um I don't know if that [39:19] directly answered your question, but I [39:21] think it does. Thank you. [39:22] » Yeah, I think a lot was in line. [39:27] » Alder person Maliki. [39:28] » Thank you, mayor. Um I just had a couple [39:31] of handful of questions and I don't know [39:32] if there are anything that will just [39:34] come down the pipeline or things that [39:36] might not be able to be answered, but um [39:39] one of the things that sort of jumped [39:40] out with to me was just the percentage [39:42] of our workforce that are non-residents. [39:45] um is a really high high percentage. Um [39:49] is there a way to find out [39:52] um how those people commute to town? Um [39:55] you know like is there like a out of [39:57] that percentage of people that come to [39:58] work here in Geneva like half of them [40:01] drive half take public transportation [40:03] you know that's those numbers with [40:06] developing like the comprehensive plan [40:08] for you know [40:09] » Yeah would be um would probably be [40:10] pretty helpful to know that's something [40:11] we can find out. [40:12] » It definitely is. is I know that stat [40:14] comes from the same site that we used to [40:16] grab that one about the workforce. Um [40:18] but I'm not sure if we included that in [40:20] our assessment, but I I it's definitely [40:22] something we should continue looking at. [40:25] So yeah, we can take a look. [40:27] » Um the the number of businesses that [40:31] we've brought in since 2020. Um, do we [40:33] know about how many of those percentage- [40:37] wise are are still in business versus I [40:40] assume that was just like any any [40:42] business that started. So there might [40:44] be, you know, someone in that figure [40:45] that, you know, for some reason went out [40:48] of business went out of business or [40:49] » Yeah, I would have to reook at how we [40:52] kind of captured that into the report to [40:54] see how it was identified. Um, so I'll [40:57] have to get back to you on that one as [40:58] well. [40:59] » Sure. Um [41:02] uh and then I guess the last thing for [41:04] now I mean just sort of a comment which [41:07] is just I mean that's just like the [41:09] challenge that every community's got to [41:12] deal with was just like rising of house [41:15] housing costs and the ultimate decrease [41:17] of affordability. That's just [41:19] » It's a national [41:20] » That's the big you know [41:23] » Billion dollar question that [41:25] » That all government our communities are [41:26] going to have to figure out. But I I [41:28] mean I'd love to find out how we're [41:31] gonna be able to rein that in because it [41:33] just seems like that's just that [41:34] exponential curve is just going to keep [41:36] going up and up and housing costs are [41:39] just going to get expensive and then the [41:42] next person that can possibly afford to [41:43] come in Geneva in another 15 years [41:46] they're just going to be even more [41:48] expensive and I don't I don't even with [41:51] even with bringing in more density in [41:53] into a community like Geneva I just [41:55] that's just a extremely challenge ing [41:58] thing to to crack. [41:59] » Yeah, land costs are expensive. So is [42:01] development costs. So that's kind of [42:03] contributing to the problem. Um and [42:05] you're exactly right. I think this is a [42:06] nationwide problem and it's something [42:08] that we're tackling with with each [42:09] community. But um you know, there are [42:12] case studies and there are communities [42:13] around us who are providing some of that [42:14] diversity and affordability. So I think [42:16] it's looking to them and see if that [42:18] seeing if that's something that we also [42:19] want to include um and how it kind of [42:22] molds to the Geneva that we see it to [42:24] be. [42:25] » Sure. So okay, that's it. Thank you. [42:27] » Well, thank you, [42:30] » Older person. Mayor, excuse me, older [42:32] person mayor. [42:33] » Um, [42:35] so, uh, on the the roadways map, so I [42:38] think for you, um, I know that we don't [42:42] actually, you know, Geneva municipality [42:46] doesn't go up to the edges of Kirk Road [42:48] in all places or um, [42:51] » Right, [42:51] » Fabian. But um my one comment would be I [42:54] think that it's really important for you [42:56] to show Fabian more prominently because [42:59] I think uh if we were to do a trucking [43:04] uh count per [43:08] per roadway, I think we'd find that that [43:10] one is more predominantly trucking and [43:13] so is Kirk. And I think that the [43:17] residents here would be interested in [43:18] that that um Kirk and Fabian [43:23] less so Randall is mixed with uh semitr [43:27] traffic and how many semi-truckss we get [43:30] down 38 is [43:32] » I think something that people want to [43:34] see decrease over time as well. So, uh [43:37] th those factors [43:39] » 31 and 25 I I thought that it was good [43:42] to see that they're not main uh thorough [43:46] affairs [43:47] » Because I think we'd like to see them [43:49] decrease in in traffic over the years [43:52] instead of becoming more traffic [43:55] abundant. [43:55] » Yeah, absolutely. Um, [43:59] I think there's a lot more opportunity [44:02] sites than what you guys identified, but [44:04] um, it's also a sticky situation where [44:07] some of those are owned. So, it's hard [44:10] to call something an opportunity site [44:12] with a functioning business, but there's [44:14] there are although we're landlocked, I [44:17] think there's a lot of uh de development [44:19] possibilities in this town. Um, [44:24] I think some of the unincorporated [44:26] lots that aren't shown [44:29] have a similar like there's opportunity [44:32] there. Um, they're not incorporated yet, [44:36] so it's not really part of your charge [44:38] here, but it would be something for, you [44:42] know, expansion. [44:45] Those those sites are for sale, I think. [44:48] So um the uh I think in general it's a [44:53] great report and how did you get the [44:56] current? So you have the 2020 to 2026. [45:01] How did you get the measurements for for [45:03] the current since we had a census in [45:06] 2020? [45:07] » Um are you speaking to like the retail [45:09] component or [45:10] » Yeah. All those aspects [45:12] » That's came directly from the city. So a [45:14] lot of that information where we were up [45:16] till 2026 um is just based on business [45:19] inventory that they have which is very [45:22] well kept up to date. Um right so [45:24] » Okay great. [45:25] » All right that's all I have. [45:26] » Thank you so much [45:28] » Older person Bing and then older [45:30] personquist. [45:31] » Um thank you. Yes I felt like there was [45:34] a lot uh that was really helpful in the [45:36] report. I [45:38] um Amy already got one of my questions. [45:41] I was curious um whether all of the [45:44] opportunity sites were [45:48] or I guess I was I was curious about the [45:50] designation of ownership of the [45:51] opportunity sites because I know talking [45:53] with community development in the past [45:54] there are more sometimes smaller sites [45:56] that they've identified in various parts [45:58] of the city um for potential [46:00] redevelopment or if they're vacant and [46:02] again some of that's owned by private [46:04] parties. Um, and then I guess my other [46:08] question was, um, [46:11] and again you this may come down the [46:13] line, but in terms of looking at [46:15] neighboring communities and what they're [46:16] doing visav [46:19] improving housing affordability, I was [46:21] curious whether zoning changes to try to [46:24] encourage transition from predominantly [46:27] detached single family housing um, was [46:32] something that the region was looking [46:34] at. Um because again I think that uh [46:39] that is such a huge usage in Geneva. Um [46:42] and it's not like redevelopment costs [46:44] are nothing. They're pretty extensive. [46:46] But um it's one way potentially um like [46:49] I live in a neighborhood where there's a [46:51] lot of multif family. Um but that's [46:53] somewhat rare outside of a few pockets [46:55] of the downtown. Um or else kind of [46:57] larger scale residential things. So I um [47:02] anyway I was curious whether that was [47:04] something and again that maybe just be [47:05] down the line. [47:06] » Yeah, absolutely. I think first to both [47:08] of your points for the opportunity sites [47:10] um just so you guys kind of understand [47:12] what we'll do moving forward, there will [47:14] be a future land use strategy. So [47:15] that'll look at the entire community and [47:17] looking at what type of development or [47:19] land uses we want to see in those areas. [47:21] So I think for those sites that weren't [47:23] identified in the opportunity sites, [47:25] those are the ways we'll kind of address [47:26] those. Um and again, this is just the [47:29] beginning. So, I'm sure when we get into [47:30] phase two, we're going to start [47:31] identifying additional as well. Um, but [47:34] for those opportunity sites, we'll kind [47:35] of create development concepts or [47:37] opportunities for those that illustrate, [47:39] you know, what type of use, how does [47:41] transportation play into this, where do [47:43] people move and get around, what does [47:44] the landscape look like, just to have [47:46] some kind of guidance for you all for [47:47] those sites. Um, and ideally those [47:50] become a tool that you can use on other [47:52] sites as well that have similar [47:53] characteristics. So we'll kind of [47:54] provide kind of a matrix or a way to [47:57] weigh, you know, how you prioritize [47:59] those sites, how you identify those [48:01] sites. Um so hopefully even for those [48:04] other sites that you've you've mentioned [48:05] or that have come up in previous [48:07] planning efforts, um they'll be [48:09] addressed in either the future land use [48:10] strategy or tangentially through those [48:12] development opportunity sites. Um, and [48:15] then for the zoning changes, I think [48:16] that is a great point. And similarly, [48:18] similarly to just affordable housing, [48:20] um, and housing diversity, a part of [48:23] this will be us like exploring other [48:25] communities and what they're doing. Um, [48:26] and bringing back some case studies to [48:28] see, you know, is this something we'd [48:30] want to try here? How would the [48:31] community respond to this? How would [48:33] leadership respond to this? So that we [48:34] can kind of find those approaches that [48:35] are going to be best for Geneva. [48:37] » Got it. And I guess the last thing is [48:39] just a comment. Um, [48:42] I think it's fascinating that the public [48:44] identifies Geneva as having diverse [48:46] transportation systems. So, like [48:48] technically that's true. And yet, I've [48:50] lived here for uh 12 or 13 years. I've [48:54] never taken a bus. Um, I've shared we've [48:57] been a onecar household. I I I use the [49:00] car. I bike. I walk. The bus is sadly [49:04] like I've lived in other places and [49:06] taken the bus frequently. Um, I do take [49:08] the Metra. Um, but I I guess I'm not [49:12] saying that we're going to be able to [49:13] solve this, but I think that there are [49:16] um I'm excited to see ways to connect [49:19] things to make things more bikable, more [49:21] walkable um because I think uh our our [49:25] ability to impact public transportation [49:27] is uh fairly limited, [49:30] » Ever increasingly so um based on some [49:32] changes from the state. So um so I think [49:35] that's really positive. Um, and then I [49:37] don't know. I guess it just it just made [49:38] me chuckle because I'm glad that we have [49:41] the public transportation we have. I [49:43] wish we had so much more because I hate [49:45] cars. I hate driving and I wish I didn't [49:47] have to get in mine every so often. So [49:49] anyway, but thank you. This was a really [49:51] great report. I appreciate it. Thank [49:53] you. [49:54] » Alder personquist. [49:56] » Yes. Uh, getting back to pleasant [49:58] surprises. Um just calling attention to [50:01] the low vacancy rates on East State and [50:05] the downtown. Um [50:08] that is a a pleasant surprise. A couple [50:10] of high-profile [50:12] vacancies tend to skew a lot of public [50:15] perception. So to see that maybe [50:17] perception is not reality is a is a good [50:20] thing. Um not that we shouldn't strive [50:22] for 100%. [50:24] » Yes. [50:24] » And there are opportunities still within [50:26] a 100% or 90 to have [50:29] greater development. But I just wanted [50:32] to call attention to that aspect. [50:34] » Yeah. And I think that's a great one, [50:36] too. As you mentioned, we did hear that [50:37] from the community is as something that [50:39] stands out as vacancy there, but when [50:41] you look at the reality of the [50:43] situation, it is really high occupancy [50:46] rates. [50:49] » Alterpress Kilbert. [50:51] » Right. I couple of questions. You had [50:53] your six priorities at the beginning [50:55] that you'd identified. Was there any [50:57] significance to the way they were [50:58] numbered? [50:59] » No, Ju just the order of them. Yeah. [51:01] » Okay. And the second uh question would [51:04] be uh new residents in Geneva uh [51:08] firsttime owners. Do we have any data on [51:11] uh what the age of a firsttime uh home [51:15] buyer in Geneva is? Or is there any way [51:17] that that could be uh identified? [51:21] I don't know that we included that in [51:22] this assessment, but that certainly [51:24] would be an interesting um that would [51:27] certainly be an interesting fact to find [51:29] for this especially just [51:30] » I know that it's yeah [51:32] » Continuing to trend older. [51:34] » Alder person Kilberg, if I may uh share [51:36] with you the information shared by the [51:38] Realtors Association of the Fox Valley, [51:40] new homeowners in Geneva on average are [51:44] 42 years old. [51:47] » So young. [laughter] [51:49] » Well, [51:52] So [51:54] uh [51:55] » There you go. [51:56] » I think that's interesting and I think [51:57] it identifies a need uh for the [52:00] community. And then uh [52:03] » Finally uh as it as you uh did your [52:06] survey work and you interviewed with [52:07] people uh what type of feedback did you [52:11] receive from seniors that participated [52:13] as it relates to housing particularly? [52:16] » Um I can only speak an anecdotally. I'd [52:19] have to look back closer at the survey, [52:21] but I think we heard a lot of people who [52:23] were wanting to downsize and couldn't [52:25] really find that footprint in the [52:26] community. Um, and this doesn't [52:29] particularly pertain to their needs, but [52:31] they also recognize wanting children to [52:33] enter the community, whether that's for [52:34] a housing option for them or just having [52:36] that extended community nearby and they [52:38] had a lot of um family members who were [52:41] not able to afford living here. So, I [52:43] think there's um you know, people who [52:45] are whether it's unwilling to downsize [52:47] because the cost is too high or there's [52:49] just not the um type of housing they [52:52] want in this community. We heard some of [52:54] that. [52:55] I think it'd be interesting to get uh [52:58] some data as it relates to residents in [53:01] Geneva, homes in Geneva that are [53:03] occupied by a single individual that are [53:06] of senior age [53:08] » And uh to see really how large that [53:10] inventory is and uh and uh you know as a [53:15] as a as a community what might be what [53:18] might we do to uh to accelerate uh or [53:22] creating a more convenient opportunity [53:24] for those people to relocate to [53:26] something that makes more sense. [53:28] » That's all I had. Thank you, [53:30] » Alder Person Pesky. [53:33] » Thank you. Um, thank you for this [53:35] report. The information was all [53:37] incredibly [53:39] um, useful and not terribly surprising. [53:42] Um [53:43] » My only question after hearing everybody [53:46] else's questions is um I know that the [53:48] affordable housing plan is you know kind [53:51] of wrapped in [53:53] » Um I assume the sites that the city had [53:57] previously identified will also be [53:58] considered. [54:00] » Okay. [54:01] » Yeah, that's all. [54:02] » Thank you. [54:03] » Before I recognize alder person Bing for [54:05] a second time, anyone who has not yet [54:06] spoken the first time wishes to do so. [54:09] Alder person Bing. [54:11] » Thank you. Um, just to follow up on [54:12] Alder person Kilberg's question, and [54:14] there may be some variety here, but what [54:16] sorts of housing were seniors looking [54:18] for that they weren't able to find? I [54:19] [clears throat] understand cost is [54:20] another consideration, but [54:23] » Um, is it single family detached that [54:26] they're looking for, but smaller or just [54:28] or like just any available units [54:31] » That are smaller? Um I we didn't get [54:34] into specifics of those with them, but I [54:36] think you know there was a range of [54:38] those as you're saying like smaller [54:39] ranches and also like attached single [54:42] family as well mainly within their price [54:44] range because a lot of the product that [54:46] is buil being built in that range is a [54:47] little bit more high-end. [54:49] » Right. [54:49] » Mhm. [54:50] » Okay. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. [54:55] » Alder person Maliki for a second time [54:57] unless anyone who has not yet spoken [54:58] wishes to do so. [55:01] All yours, sir. Thank you. Uh just [55:03] following up with this the recent [55:05] conversation too. It'd be interesting to [55:06] know if that that group of people that [55:09] are under 42 [55:11] » Uh that aren't, you know, buying their [55:13] first home in Geneva if it's if that [55:15] restriction solely is I'm sure it's [55:17] primarily cost. But if it's solely cost [55:20] or maybe there's some other factors that [55:22] that they're considering, they know that [55:26] you know that people under 42 are [55:28] considering that we just may not be [55:29] offering. you know, something that's [55:31] just our community doesn't doesn't [55:34] currently, you know, have that they're [55:37] looking for. You know, whether it's some [55:38] sort of like [55:39] » Entertainment value or, you know, [55:42] transportation, just something that's [55:43] other than cost. It'd be interesting to [55:45] know. [55:45] » Yeah. [55:46] » So, [55:47] » Yeah, that was it. Thank you. [55:48] » Thank you. [55:50] » The floor is open [55:52] to person mayor for a second time. [55:54] » Oh, my mic's been on the whole time. Um, [55:57] sorry. I can you go back a few slides to [56:00] the opportunity sites because I remember [56:01] there was one that said uh Betavia [56:03] Avenue and I wanted to follow up and ask [56:05] what that what that was. [56:07] » It's the one down on 31 [56:10] » 31 [56:11] » Down here. [56:12] » Oh, Campana [56:13] » Campana. [56:15] » So there's a [56:16] » That's there's a use here [56:19] » And here I believe [56:21] » And then it's [56:21] » It's the Duke and Lee site older person [56:23] there. No, [56:26] » That's that's first [56:28] is here. [56:30] » That's metro first and third. Okay. [56:32] » Yeah. Go ahead. [56:33] » So, this is the um the Mifflin site [56:37] » And then to the south of that there's [56:39] about 12 acres or so of a wooded area [56:42] and then there's the um the office [56:44] complex just north of Campana that has [56:47] about 5 acres of open land in the back [56:49] of that. [56:51] Is it occupied? [56:53] » Huh? [56:56] » I was just curious. Is it occupied? I [56:57] mean, it's it's not vacant. Sorry. [57:00] » It's vacant land. [57:01] » It's That's all vacant. There's not a [57:03] » Behind the building is all vacant land. [57:04] It abuts unincorporated Geneva. [57:06] » Okay. [57:07] » But it's vacant land. [57:08] » Sorry for my being out of order. [57:10] » No, no, that's right. [57:11] » Uh, okay. [57:12] » But [57:13] » Yep. Exactly. [57:14] » The industrial there is a current [57:16] industrial user or former industrial [57:17] user that's part of that site also. [57:19] Current [57:19] » Current current. Okay. Thank you. [57:26] » Anyone else? [clears throat] [57:28] Next fa next steps if you will. I know [57:30] you already shared that in slide one but [57:32] » Yeah absolutely. I'll just wrap up here. [57:35] Um we'll be presenting these the same [57:38] presentation to the planning and zoning [57:39] commission on Thursday of this week. [57:42] » Um and then we're planning to do a short [57:44] video that kind of captures some of the [57:46] key findings from the existing [57:47] conditions report. um so that when we [57:49] promote this to the public for those who [57:50] don't want to read a 120 page document [57:52] they might be able to capture some of [57:54] those key findings um just to stay [57:56] informed with the process and then we [57:58] are jumping into phase two. So this is [58:00] really where we'll start coming up with [58:02] some of those policy objectives and [58:04] different planning scenarios um to test [58:06] some opportunities for some of the [58:08] challenges and needs that have been [58:10] identified and we'll do that future land [58:11] use uh exploration as well as these [58:14] opportunity site or sub area plans. Um [58:16] once we have these ideas, we're going to [58:18] bring them back to the community through [58:19] a workshop and survey as well as to [58:21] leadership and the steering committee to [58:24] kind of just get their thoughts and [58:25] weigh in and make sure we're headed in [58:26] the right direction to capture this [58:28] vision. So that's kind of where we're [58:29] headed from here. [58:32] » In terms of time, is that a three-month [58:35] process, six month process? [58:36] » So we've outlined from September to [58:38] about January. That's just kind of being [58:40] sensitive of holidays. I'm sure um we'll [58:43] kind of try to wrap it up a little bit [58:44] before then, but just making sure that [58:46] we have plenty of opportunities for [58:47] engagement. [58:48] » Great. Thank you. [58:49] » Awesome. [58:51] » Anyone else before we allow our friends [58:53] to return to their homes? [58:58] » Thank you both very much. [58:59] » Thank you so much for having us. [59:00] » Thank you. [applause] [59:11] Item four, ladies and gentlemen, [59:13] amendments to the agenda. Are there any [59:15] amendments this evening? [59:17] Item five is the omnibus agenda. All [59:20] items marked with an asterric on this [59:21] agenda are considered to be routine by [59:23] this council and all those items can be [59:26] considered and voted upon with one [59:28] motion. [59:29] » Pashki makes that motion. Seconded by [59:31] Palmquist. [59:34] City clerk, please take the role. [59:37] Pashki. [59:37] » Hi [59:38] » Reini. [59:39] » Hi [59:40] » Bing. [59:40] » I [59:42] » Hilbert. [59:43] » Hi [59:44] » Kaser. [59:44] » Hi [59:45] » Malaki. [59:46] » I [59:47] » Mayor [59:47] » I [59:48] » Palquest. [59:48] » I nine votes in the affirmative. Zero [59:51] votes in the negative. One council [59:53] member absent. The omnibus agenda has [59:55] been approved. We jump to item eight. [59:56] Municipal bills for payment. We kindly [59:58] ask our clerk to read the bills in their [1:00:00] aggregate for our consideration and a [1:00:02] motion. Municipal bills for payment [1:00:05] total $4,698,23947. [1:00:11] » Mayor, I move that we pay the bills as [1:00:13] read, the individual items for which can [1:00:15] be found in tonight's city council [1:00:16] packet, which is available on the city's [1:00:18] website. [1:00:19] » Alder person Bar makes the motion to pay [1:00:21] the bills as presented, which are [1:00:22] available in each council member's [1:00:23] packet and on the city's website. [1:00:28] » Seconded by mayor, [1:00:32] city clerk [1:00:33] All yours. [1:00:34] » Bowing. [1:00:35] » Hi, [1:00:35] » Kernish. [1:00:36] » Hi, [1:00:37] » Kilberg. [1:00:38] » Hi, [1:00:38] » Kasarog. [1:00:39] » I [1:00:40] » Maliki. [1:00:41] » I [1:00:42] » Mayor. I palquist. [1:00:44] » I [1:00:44] » Pashki. [1:00:45] » I Ricky. [1:00:46] » Hi. [1:00:48] » The bills have been approved for payment [1:00:49] nine affirmative, zero negative, and one [1:00:51] council member absent. We move on. All [1:00:54] items on number nine have been approved [1:00:55] on the consent agenda. We jump to item [1:00:57] 10 A. Consider resolution 2026-99 [1:01:03] authorizing destination Geneva grant [1:01:05] with Geneva Foundation for the arts for [1:01:08] artists Sunday road rally 2026 [1:01:14] » Pashki with the motion Kasarog with the [1:01:16] second [1:01:18] miss boy [1:01:20] » Thank you uh for the council's [1:01:21] consideration this evening is a request [1:01:24] from the Geneva Foundation for the arts [1:01:26] for a destination Geneva grant in the [1:01:28] amount of $2,500 for the Artist Sunday [1:01:31] road rally on November 29th, 2026. The [1:01:35] event will have locations throughout the [1:01:37] downtown and will take place the Sunday [1:01:39] following Thanksgiving, which is of [1:01:41] course a very popular shopping weekend. [1:01:44] Artist Sunday is a nationwide art [1:01:46] shopping event designed to encourage [1:01:47] shopping with local artists, makers, and [1:01:50] creators during the holiday season. This [1:01:52] is the second year for this event and [1:01:54] the Geneva Foundation for the Arts did [1:01:56] receive a grant last year in 2025 as [1:01:59] well. And just uh for keeping count, [1:02:02] this represents the 10th request for [1:02:04] destination Geneva grant since the [1:02:06] program was put into place. And then we [1:02:08] have director Timosenko here if there [1:02:10] are additional questions. [1:02:12] » We have a motion by Pashki, a second by [1:02:13] Kasarog. Are there any questions for [1:02:16] director Timosenko? [1:02:19] If not, the city clerk will take the [1:02:21] role and I will vote on this one as [1:02:22] well. [1:02:23] » Hashki, [1:02:25] » I reini. [1:02:26] » Hi. [1:02:27] » Bowing. [1:02:28] » I [1:02:29] » Fernish. [1:02:30] » I [1:02:30] » Kilberg. [1:02:31] » I [1:02:32] » Caserog. [1:02:32] » I [1:02:33] » Malakei. [1:02:34] » I [1:02:35] » Mayor. [1:02:36] » I [1:02:36] » Palquist. [1:02:37] » I [1:02:38] » Mayor Burns. [1:02:38] » I. With 10 votes in the affirmative, [1:02:41] zero votes in the negative, and one [1:02:42] council member absent, resolution 2026-9 [1:02:46] has been approved. We jump to item 10B. [1:02:48] Consider ordinance [1:02:50] 2026-18 [1:02:52] establish establishing special service [1:02:55] area number 35 [1:02:57] the myth Geneva Industrial Park City of [1:03:00] Geneva Cane County, Illinois. [1:03:03] » Second. [1:03:04] » Palmquist with the motion. Bing, I [1:03:06] believe, with the second. [1:03:08] » Miss Boy, [1:03:10] » Thank you. uh before the council this [1:03:12] evening. This special service area under [1:03:15] consideration um is has previously been [1:03:18] outlined in both the annexation and [1:03:20] redevelopment agreements and the city's [1:03:22] storm water ordinance and SSA is [1:03:24] required as a backup financing mechanism [1:03:27] to cover the maintenance of storm water [1:03:28] detention conservation easement and [1:03:31] common areas as as associated with the [1:03:34] development on the subject property. The [1:03:36] public hearing was held on July 6 of [1:03:38] this year and all other statutory [1:03:41] obligations have been met and the [1:03:42] director Timoshenko is here if there are [1:03:45] questions. [1:03:46] » Are there any questions from the deis? [1:03:52] » City clerk please take the role. [1:03:55] » Palmquist [1:03:56] » I. [1:03:56] » Pashki [1:03:57] » I. [1:03:58] » Reini [1:03:58] » I [1:03:59] » Bing [1:04:00] » I [1:04:01] » Fernish. [1:04:01] » Hi. [1:04:02] » Hilbert. [1:04:03] » Hi [1:04:03] » Kaser. [1:04:04] » Hi [1:04:05] » Maliki. I [1:04:06] » Mayor [1:04:07] » I. [1:04:08] » Ordinance 2026-18 has been approved with [1:04:10] nine affirmative votes, zero nay votes, [1:04:12] and one council member absent. Item 10 [1:04:15] C. Consider ordinance 2026-9 [1:04:19] establishing special service area number [1:04:21] 36 [1:04:26] for the Roosevelt here in the beautiful [1:04:28] and bukallic city of Geneva, Illinois, [1:04:30] equally beautiful King County. [snorts] [1:04:33] Motion by Bing, seconded by Palmquist. [1:04:36] Miss Boy, [1:04:38] » Thank you. This SSA for the council's [1:04:41] consideration was outlined in the TIFF 3 [1:04:44] redevelopment agreement for the [1:04:46] Roosevelt mixeduse development. The [1:04:48] agreement allows the city to establish a [1:04:51] backup SSA to be used in the event the [1:04:53] project does not generate sufficient [1:04:56] incremental revenues to meet the funding [1:04:58] obligation. The SSA, if approved, will [1:05:01] remain dormant for 10 years and be [1:05:02] available for future use as needed. The [1:05:05] public hearing for this SSA was also [1:05:08] held July 6th and all other statutory [1:05:10] obligations have been met. [1:05:13] » Are there any questions? [1:05:16] If not, the honorable just [1:05:19] » Just a couple [1:05:19] » Older person Kilbert uh hypothetical [1:05:22] what what might be some of the issues [1:05:24] that would generate the requirement for [1:05:26] an SSA 10 years from now versus 5 years [1:05:30] from now? [1:05:33] Are we talking about snow removal? Are [1:05:35] we talk is there a detentionary involved [1:05:38] with uh with this project? I don't [1:05:41] believe so. No, this is a financial um [1:05:45] SSA backup for the financial incentive, [1:05:48] not for the physical grounds. [1:05:51] » Okay. [1:05:54] So, [1:05:55] what would be an example of a financial [1:05:59] uh [1:06:00] » So as as part of the uh [1:06:02] » Requirement for an SSA? it as part of [1:06:04] the incentive agreement, the city agreed [1:06:07] to a lump sum payment to the developer [1:06:10] to cover some of the utility costs. It's [1:06:13] the expectation that the project will [1:06:16] generate the revenue, [1:06:18] » Okay, [1:06:18] » To be able to cover that, but should [1:06:21] that not happen, uh you can look to the [1:06:25] backup SSA to, [1:06:27] » Okay, [1:06:27] » Do that. And it's because um you just [1:06:30] don't know how the assessor will [1:06:34] uh estimate but it's just extra for the [1:06:38] city to have protection should [1:06:40] » So it's a recovery of utilities and [1:06:42] other elements that uh cause the project [1:06:46] to move forward and that this an [1:06:48] opportunity then for the city to recoup [1:06:50] and if the uh if the tiff doesn't [1:06:54] generate enough revenue then they're on [1:06:56] the hook and the SSA they would cover [1:06:58] the differential. [1:06:59] » Correct. And the owner um offered it to [1:07:01] the city and we said okay [1:07:04] » Put it in. [1:07:05] » It was offered to the city and the city [1:07:08] is taking the opportunity to do it. [1:07:10] » Okay. You answer my question. Thank you. [1:07:13] » Anyone else? [1:07:16] » Not [1:07:24] Bing. [1:07:24] » I [1:07:25] » Fernish. I [1:07:27] » Kilbert. [1:07:27] » Hi [1:07:28] » Kasarak. [1:07:29] » I [1:07:29] » Malake. [1:07:30] » I [1:07:31] » Mayor. [1:07:32] » I [1:07:33] » Palquist. [1:07:34] » I [1:07:34] » Pashki. [1:07:35] » I [1:07:36] » Reiki. [1:07:37] » I. [1:07:38] » Nine votes in the a zero votes in the [1:07:40] one council member absent. The ordinance [1:07:42] has been approved. [1:07:44] » Forgive me. [1:07:45] » The ordinance has been approved with [1:07:46] nine affirmative votes, zero nay votes, [1:07:48] and one council member absent. Item 10D. [1:07:51] Consider resolution 2026-100 [1:07:55] rejecting bids opened on August 10, 2026 [1:08:00] for wastewater plant grit [1:08:03] classifier. [1:08:06] » Motion by Malake, seconded by Bing, Miss [1:08:09] Voit. [1:08:11] » Thank you. The item before the council [1:08:13] is a request to reject bids for the [1:08:16] wastewater plant grit classifier [1:08:18] replacement. bid submitts were received [1:08:21] and both were opened on August 10th. One [1:08:24] of the biders subsequently submitted [1:08:26] questions regarding the bid documents [1:08:29] and uh that question and the documents [1:08:32] were sent to legal for further [1:08:33] consideration. Uh after a review of the [1:08:36] questions, legal council recommended [1:08:38] that the city reject both submitts, [1:08:40] clean up the bid, and rebid. So that is [1:08:43] what this request is for. And we do have [1:08:45] assistant public works director Nate [1:08:47] Landers here if there are additional [1:08:49] questions. [1:08:51] » Are there any questions for [1:08:54] Nate Grit Landers? [1:08:59] » Isn't it's just a great name. It's like [1:09:01] ladies and gentlemen grit classifier on [1:09:03] the tackle. Yeah. It's like if not the [1:09:06] clerk will take the role. [1:09:08] » Maliki [1:09:09] » I. [1:09:11] » Mayor I. Ponquist [1:09:13] » I. Pashki [1:09:14] » I [1:09:15] » Reini [1:09:16] » I [1:09:17] » Bowing [1:09:18] » I [1:09:19] » Fernish [1:09:19] » I [1:09:20] » Kilberg [1:09:21] » I [1:09:21] » Caserat [1:09:22] » I resolution 2026-100 has been approved [1:09:25] with nine affirmative votes zero nay [1:09:27] votes and one council member absent item [1:09:30] 10 E [1:09:33] consider resolution 2026-101 [1:09:37] authorizing the execution of a [1:09:40] memorandum of understanding with Kain [1:09:42] County for the install ation of [1:09:44] communications infrastructure within the [1:09:46] city's Fox River sanitary sewer [1:09:50] crossing. [1:09:52] » Mayor makes the motion. Conserog with [1:09:55] the second. The floor is for Miss Voit. [1:09:58] » Thank you. Uh this item reflects a [1:10:01] request from Kain County that one [1:10:03] additional 4inch conduit be installed [1:10:06] within the city's new river crossing to [1:10:08] accommodate future county fiber optic [1:10:10] and communications infrastructure. [1:10:12] Installing the conduit as part of the [1:10:14] city's river crossing project will [1:10:16] create cost savings and future [1:10:18] disruption due to any additional [1:10:20] construction. The King County Board [1:10:22] approved a resolution funding the [1:10:24] additional conduit and coordination of [1:10:26] the installation in July and assistant [1:10:30] director of public works Nate Landers is [1:10:32] here if there are additional questions. [1:10:35] » Are there any questions for assistant [1:10:37] public works director Landers? Alder [1:10:39] person mayor [1:10:43] So we have a conduit too, right? [1:10:45] Correct. [1:10:46] » So this is an additional conduit. They [1:10:48] couldn't just use space in ours. [1:10:51] » They wanted their own conduit. So yes, [1:10:52] this is an additional conduit. [1:10:54] » Okay. [1:10:56] » Um how much did this conduit cost? [1:10:58] » This conduit costs roughly about 43,000 [1:11:02] for them to install that and then an [1:11:05] additional 5,000 for the hand holes on [1:11:07] each side of the roof. [1:11:10] All right, that's all I have. Thank you. [1:11:12] » Okay, [1:11:14] » We do have a call into grit classifier [1:11:16] to make sure that this is [1:11:20] » We should just give it a grit. Anyone [1:11:22] else from Mr. Landers? [1:11:25] » On resolution 2026-101, [1:11:28] the clerk will take the role. [1:11:30] » Mayor, [1:11:32] » I appalus [1:11:34] » I. Pashki. [1:11:35] » Hi, [1:11:36] » Rhiniki. [1:11:36] » Hi, [1:11:37] » Bowing. [1:11:38] » Hi, [1:11:38] » Fernish. [1:11:39] » Hi, [1:11:40] » Kilberg. [1:11:40] » Hi, [1:11:41] » Caser. [1:11:42] » I [1:11:42] » Maliki, [1:11:43] » I [1:11:44] » The resolution has been adopted with [1:11:45] nine affirmative votes, zero nay votes, [1:11:47] and one council member absent. Item 10F [1:11:50] is consider resolution 2026-102 [1:11:53] authorizing the execution of a 10-foot [1:11:57] fiber optic easement to Canain County [1:12:00] for fiber optic installation serving [1:12:02] Tricom dispatch. [1:12:05] » Palmquist [1:12:07] and I believe Pashki [1:12:10] » With a second. Yep. [1:12:12] Miss Boy, [1:12:14] » Thank you. Uh, this item before the [1:12:17] council is a request to grant King [1:12:19] County a permanent non-exclusive [1:12:22] underground fiber optic utility easement [1:12:24] across a parcel so the county may [1:12:26] install and maintain fiber optic conduit [1:12:29] serving the Tricom central dispatch [1:12:31] facility. The city will maintain the [1:12:33] right to continue using the easement [1:12:35] areas and also grant additional non-erin [1:12:38] interfering easements. This request [1:12:40] comes at no cost or administrative [1:12:42] burden to the city and the assistant [1:12:45] director is still here if there are [1:12:47] questions. [1:12:49] » Questions for Mr. Landers. [1:12:53] » Seeing none, the clerk, [1:12:56] sorry, [1:12:56] » Older person. Mayor, [1:12:57] » I I was just going to ask the lawyer [1:12:59] actually. So, this is an easement that's [1:13:02] coincidental with our easement for the [1:13:04] crossing. [1:13:05] » It's not a different easement, is it? [1:13:07] They're gonna all be in the same trench, [1:13:09] right? [1:13:09] » It's all in the same area. Yes. [1:13:11] » Okay. So, there's [1:13:12] » Their easement that overlaps [1:13:14] » For access. [1:13:15] » Correct. [1:13:16] » Okay. It's for access. Okay. All right. [1:13:18] Thank you. [1:13:21] » City clerk, please take the role on [1:13:23] resolution 2026-102. [1:13:26] » Pollquest. [1:13:27] » I. [1:13:28] » Pashki. [1:13:29] » I. [1:13:29] » Reini. [1:13:30] » Hi. [1:13:31] » Bing. [1:13:32] » Hi. [1:13:32] » Fernish. [1:13:33] » Hi. [1:13:34] » Pilberg. [1:13:34] » Hi. [1:13:35] » Kasog. [1:13:36] » Hi. Malaki [1:13:37] » I. [1:13:37] » Mayor [1:13:38] » I. [1:13:38] » The resolution is passed with nine [1:13:40] affirmative votes, zero nay votes, and [1:13:42] one council member absent. Item 10G is [1:13:45] consider resolution 2026-103 [1:13:48] authorizing the purchase of a wooden [1:13:51] utility, excuse me, of wooden utility [1:13:54] poles from power line in the amount of [1:13:58] 50,449 [1:14:00] bucks and I believe that is 43 cents. [1:14:04] » That's for one poll. [1:14:05] » Second. Yes, [1:14:07] » Kidding. Pashki made the motion and [1:14:09] seconded by Bowing. Miss Vo, clarify [1:14:11] that. [1:14:12] » This is for more than one pole. Uh, but [1:14:14] this request is to purchase wooden [1:14:17] utility poles in order to replenish our [1:14:20] electric division stock. The city did [1:14:22] solicit bids. Uh, however, none were no [1:14:25] one submitted for uh no one responded to [1:14:27] the bid, excuse me. staff undertook an [1:14:29] informal bid process and solicited [1:14:32] numbers from three companies which were [1:14:34] included in a memo that Superintendent [1:14:36] Holton drafted that was in your packet. [1:14:38] Um, and the request before you is to [1:14:41] purchase from Powerline Supply who [1:14:43] provided the lowest price and we do have [1:14:46] the superintendent here if there are [1:14:48] additional questions. [1:14:50] » Questions for Superintendent Holton. [1:14:52] Alder person Kilberg. I just uh [1:14:56] had a uh curious question. Um [1:15:01] I'm sure we have an inventory of all the [1:15:03] polls in Geneva that are city's [1:15:06] responsibility. Do we have a [1:15:08] » Do we have a u a decade long plan or two [1:15:12] decade long plan to replace poles uh or [1:15:16] is it just replacements are when we feel [1:15:18] as though pole has deteriorated to the [1:15:21] point where it's putting our service at [1:15:23] risk. Uh I know we purchasing 30 here. [1:15:27] Is that sort of what we're doing on an [1:15:29] annual basis? Uh [1:15:31] » Uh we typically don't buy polls [1:15:33] annually. Okay. [1:15:34] » The last time we purchased polls, I [1:15:36] believe, was 2021. [1:15:37] » Oh, okay. [1:15:38] » Um, as far as replacement schedule, uh, [1:15:41] if you remember, uh, two or last year, [1:15:44] actually, [1:15:45] » I think I asked this question last year. [1:15:47] » Trying to get my my fiscal year correct, [1:15:48] but I believe it was last year, uh, we [1:15:51] did do a systemwide poll inventory and [1:15:54] testing. Um, that identifies polls. [1:15:57] They're It says we're looking at the [1:15:59] condition of the pole. Um the reason why [1:16:01] our the reason why our uh inventory is [1:16:05] getting low is because after that u pole [1:16:09] assessment we had uh some that we that [1:16:11] were needed to be replaced immediately. [1:16:14] So we went ahead and and did that. So [1:16:16] every couple years we undertake a pole [1:16:17] assessment to keep keep track of how the [1:16:20] poles are doing out there on the system. [1:16:21] » I noticed there's some differentiation [1:16:23] in price for the poles. Is it the [1:16:26] diameter of the pole, the length of the [1:16:28] pole, or what what causes a a pole to [1:16:31] cost $1,500 versus one that costs [1:16:34] $2,300? [1:16:35] » Uh, it's uh both size and [1:16:37] classification. So, you have the length [1:16:38] of the pole, that would be the pole [1:16:40] size, 35, 40, 45 ft, and then you have a [1:16:43] classification, which is how much taper [1:16:45] there is in the pole. So, uh the higher [1:16:48] the the classification number, the more [1:16:50] taper there is. It gets smaller at the [1:16:52] top. and that uh we specify that [1:16:55] classification based on what's going to [1:16:57] go on that pole out in the field. So, [1:16:59] » Okay. Thank you. [1:17:01] Anyone else? Alder person conroy. [1:17:05] » Are you going to bang each one with the [1:17:06] hammer and make sure you hear the ring? [1:17:08] » Yes. [1:17:09] » Okay. [1:17:09] » We want to make sure they ring. [1:17:10] » We got to report back on that. [1:17:13] » Well, some of them. [1:17:14] » Yes. [1:17:16] » We want them to ring. [1:17:16] » If we want them to ring. Yep. Yep. [1:17:18] » If [1:17:20] Facebook live on that one. [1:17:21] » That's right. We we'll see what we can [1:17:23] do. [1:17:23] » Anyone else? [1:17:25] » Alder person Maliki. [1:17:26] » Just really quick, do we please do we do [1:17:28] the work in house or who's [1:17:29] » Yes. [1:17:29] » Yeah. We do it ourselves. [1:17:31] » Thanks. [1:17:31] » Yep. [1:17:34] » If there's no other questions, the clerk [1:17:36] will take the roll call on resolution [1:17:38] 2026-103. [1:17:41] » Pashki. [1:17:42] » I. Reini. [1:17:43] » I [1:17:47] » Hilberg. [1:17:48] » Hi. [1:17:49] » Casarog. [1:17:49] » Hi. [1:17:50] » Maliki. I [1:17:52] » Mayor I palquest [1:17:54] » I the resolution has been approved by [1:17:57] nine affirmative votes zero nay votes [1:17:59] and one council member absent. Thank you [1:18:01] sir. Our last item item 10H consider [1:18:05] resolution 2026-104 [1:18:08] adopting updated city of Geneva [1:18:11] personnel policy manual. [1:18:13] » So second [1:18:15] » Mayor with the motion Pashki with the [1:18:17] second and the floor is Miss Voitz. [1:18:20] Thank you. Um, as outlined, the item [1:18:23] before the council is a request to adopt [1:18:26] changes to the city's personnel policy [1:18:28] manual. The proposed changes allow the [1:18:30] manual to ensure the city remains [1:18:32] compliant with employment law and best [1:18:34] practices. Updates include a new section [1:18:37] to comply with the Illinois Family [1:18:39] Neonatal Intensive Care Leave Act, a [1:18:42] proposal to add a parental care leave [1:18:44] benefit policy, revision, excuse me, [1:18:47] revisions to the existing educational [1:18:49] assistance policy, a modification to [1:18:52] sick time payout procedures for IMRF [1:18:54] retirees, and then some general cleanup [1:18:57] language. The redline document included [1:19:00] was included in the packet, excuse me. [1:19:02] We did receive some questions regarding [1:19:03] this item which were posted to the [1:19:05] website and we also um some grammatical [1:19:10] uh errors were were sent in. We'll take [1:19:14] note of those and those will be [1:19:15] addressed in the final as well. And we [1:19:17] have our HR manager Lauren Newton here [1:19:20] if there are additional questions beyond [1:19:22] the what was in the packet this [1:19:24] afternoon. [1:19:25] » Questions person [1:19:28] bing floor is yours. [1:19:30] » Thank you mayor. Um yes. So I um did [1:19:33] have some more questions about the [1:19:34] parental care leave. Um I'm delighted [1:19:37] that the city is implementing this. Um I [1:19:41] understand the concerns particularly [1:19:43] because the city manages so many [1:19:45] different types of operations about [1:19:46] keeping the benefit um as a consecutive [1:19:50] block. I was wondering if [1:19:54] um is it just open up too many cans of [1:19:56] worms to make that like a departmental [1:20:00] decision or like allow for some [1:20:02] flexibility because again I I know [1:20:06] people have different needs sometimes uh [1:20:09] you know the leave situation for the two [1:20:12] parents may differ or there may be [1:20:14] things that come up um but um [1:20:19] anyway so I just I guess I'm curious [1:20:20] ious whether that just feels [1:20:24] like not a best practice to try to allow [1:20:27] for some flexibility if it was okay with [1:20:29] line management. [1:20:30] » Yeah. Um so it's a great question. Um [1:20:33] and uh it pertains to of course the twoe [1:20:37] parental leave is being implemented as a [1:20:39] consecutive leave. So once a new parent [1:20:42] who's employed by the city um starts [1:20:45] their FMLA for the birth or uh bonding [1:20:47] of a child, they are entitled or would [1:20:50] be entitled to two weeks of paid [1:20:52] parental leave. Um, I think it's um [1:20:56] challenging sometimes when crafting [1:20:58] policies that um cover various [1:21:01] departments, uh, because while somebody [1:21:04] here at city hall could probably easily [1:21:06] take an intermittent leave, um, a police [1:21:10] officer taking an intermittent leave is [1:21:11] a very different story because you start [1:21:13] looking at how that impacts others and [1:21:16] for operational planning and staffing. [1:21:19] Um, so when we draft the policy and this [1:21:21] is the initial policy, we try to make it [1:21:24] as easy on operational continuity as [1:21:28] possible and we think of those whatifs. [1:21:30] Um, the same with fire, right? So [1:21:33] they're on 24 48 off. Um, an [1:21:36] intermittent leave to a firefighter, [1:21:38] they could be out for quite a long time [1:21:41] versus somebody here who's here at city [1:21:43] hall who doesn't need to be uh called [1:21:45] back for coverage or have anybody held [1:21:48] over. Um so we did assess that. We did [1:21:51] look at other policies too. Um we [1:21:53] reached out to our uh neighboring [1:21:54] communities that have uh similar [1:21:57] policies and the consensus was that they [1:21:59] do offer it consecutively. Um so that's [1:22:01] where we decided to lead with [1:22:03] implementing it. Um but I do recognize [1:22:06] uh what you're mentioning too, [1:22:08] especially when um there's multiple [1:22:10] parents who are both working at play. um [1:22:14] you know, starting the FMLA for the uh [1:22:16] the parent who um you know has the [1:22:19] child, the birthing parent, um their [1:22:21] leave starts right away because they [1:22:22] have the physical recovery part coupled [1:22:25] with [snorts] the bonding. Um but for [1:22:27] the other parent, they could take this [1:22:29] leave at a later time. Absolutely. That [1:22:32] would run concurrently with their FMLA, [1:22:34] though. So that would then trigger the [1:22:36] FMLA event. So, as long as they're not [1:22:38] taking FMLA at the birth of the child, [1:22:40] um you know, they they can take, you [1:22:43] know, up to the amounted uh time off uh [1:22:45] that they're allowed, which would be [1:22:46] three shifts, but anything beyond that [1:22:48] triggers uh FMLA. Um they could of [1:22:52] course take the two weeks [1:22:53] » Staggered [1:22:54] » Later. Yes. So, that would be an option [1:22:56] for them. [1:22:57] » Okay. And then I guess so, as I was [1:22:59] rereading this, uh I um just wanted to [1:23:03] clarify. So there's a section if both [1:23:04] parents are employed and for everyone [1:23:06] else's reference in case people note [1:23:08] this is on page 279 of the packet. It [1:23:10] says if both parents are employed by the [1:23:12] city I don't know how often this happens [1:23:14] combined paid leave may not exceed two [1:23:16] weeks. I don't understand what that [1:23:18] means. So like that means that if both [1:23:20] parents were employed by the city [1:23:22] effectively they only get half of this [1:23:23] benefit. [1:23:24] » Uh no they they would get the two weeks [1:23:27] combined. So each parent would not be [1:23:29] eligible for their own two weeks for it. [1:23:33] » Why? [1:23:34] » Um [1:23:36] again um operationally that's similar to [1:23:40] FMLA for bonding as well. [1:23:43] » Um [1:23:45] it's really to make sure that the the [1:23:48] benefit isn't exceeding what it's in [1:23:50] intended to do. But if both parents were [1:23:54] employed separately, there's no way to [1:23:57] impose that kind of restriction. Like [1:23:59] each of them would get whatever benefit [1:24:01] the employer gave. And it just if they [1:24:03] happen to both be employed by the city, [1:24:05] then it seems like they're effectively [1:24:07] being penalized. Like they're getting [1:24:08] less benefit than two parents who had [1:24:12] different employers. [1:24:13] » Sure. I I certainly understand that. [1:24:16] Yeah. [1:24:16] » Okay. [1:24:17] » Yeah. Um, and it we don't do we [1:24:23] I don't want to step my toe into too [1:24:25] much of the nitty-gritty, but I feel [1:24:26] like our parental leave in this country [1:24:28] is already so uh scanty. [1:24:31] » Sure. [1:24:31] » Um, and uh, having [1:24:34] » Been a parent recently, a new parent [1:24:36] recently, uh, twice. I, you know, every [1:24:39] amount of flexibility that there was was [1:24:42] really helpful. Um, and [1:24:47] anyway, so I guess uh [1:24:51] to me that seems unfair. I guess I'm [1:24:54] curious [1:24:55] like operationally we feel like it's [1:24:57] just not tenable to take away that [1:25:00] restriction. [1:25:02] Um, again, I don't know how many [1:25:05] times this even comes up. Um, [1:25:11] and I I I'm trying to imagine kind of [1:25:13] the most complicated case scenario. We [1:25:15] had two um police officers or two [1:25:20] firefighters uh who were both becoming [1:25:23] new parents. [1:25:24] » Um [1:25:26] like I can't imagine that that could be [1:25:28] disruptive. I also feel like [1:25:32] I don't know I from from an equity [1:25:34] standpoint um this is really bothering [1:25:37] me. Um so I guess I'm curious to hear [1:25:39] whether other folks on council would [1:25:42] agree. Um [1:25:45] anyway, yeah I guess I' I'd be I'd be [1:25:49] interested to try to make that more [1:25:50] flexible. Um, and then I guess just the [1:25:53] way it's worded, I mean obviously it [1:25:55] can't actually cut off FMLA and while [1:25:58] under FMLA they can use their own [1:26:01] vacation time or personal time that they [1:26:04] may have accured in addition to this [1:26:06] parental leave. [1:26:07] » Yeah. If you're talking about the two [1:26:09] parent employed situation, absolutely. [1:26:11] So both have their rights under FMLA. [1:26:13] This is just the paid benefit that the [1:26:15] city's paying. Okay. [1:26:17] » So the city is paying two weeks where [1:26:19] somebody does not need to touch [1:26:21] their benefit time. Yes. Uh for the [1:26:24] birth um or adoption of a child. Um and [1:26:27] in the event of uh two employees who are [1:26:30] married, that does not extend that paid [1:26:32] benefit. However, they can use their PTO [1:26:35] however they'd like. Um and they do get [1:26:37] the FMLA benefit. [1:26:40] Yeah. I I guess yeah, I just [1:26:45] my point of comparison from my own [1:26:47] personal life is that when my first [1:26:48] child was born, uh his employer gave no [1:26:51] parental leave time. When our second [1:26:54] child was born, he got two weeks. And it [1:26:56] was great because it meant that he [1:26:57] hadn't used up all of his vacation time [1:27:00] right after the birth of our second [1:27:02] child. [1:27:03] » Uh and then that allowed for more [1:27:05] flexibility for the myriad of things [1:27:07] life brings up down the line. Um, and [1:27:12] I guess uh, [1:27:15] yeah, I [1:27:18] I don't know. This feels like a very [1:27:20] particular point to have an issue with, [1:27:22] and I'm curious uh, to hear, I don't [1:27:25] know, from city administrator of White [1:27:27] or attorney kind of what uh, options [1:27:30] might be for. I don't want to I don't [1:27:32] want to halt all of our progress here. [1:27:35] Um, but I I guess I'd like to open the [1:27:38] opportunity if no one else on council [1:27:40] feels like this is a a significant [1:27:42] issue, then I can let it lie. Is it most [1:27:44] appropriate for And again, I I don't [1:27:47] want to discount the advice of our [1:27:48] staff. Um, I don't know. So, I guess I'm [1:27:52] I'm asking for some input, but maybe [1:27:55] that's inappropriate. [1:27:57] Well, in reviewing this policy, [1:28:00] we're first of all, we're very excited [1:28:01] to be including this benefit for our [1:28:03] workforce, particularly as we are [1:28:05] looking to attract and retain, [1:28:08] » Right, [1:28:09] » Younger employees. Yep. [1:28:10] » Um, I will say in terms of consideration [1:28:14] of this specific point, as you know, [1:28:18] Lauren pointed out um the intention is [1:28:23] to not exceed the twoe period. So the [1:28:26] one week per parent with the FMLA [1:28:29] um we felt comfortable moving forward [1:28:31] with that because it is such a limited [1:28:32] set of circumstances. [1:28:34] I you know in terms of any conversation [1:28:37] beyond that we we left it at that [1:28:39] because we're focused on getting this [1:28:42] new benefit included in the plan. Got [1:28:44] it. Okay. Um well certainly I don't want [1:28:48] to jeopardize a new beneficial benefit. [1:28:51] Is it possible to come back and look at [1:28:53] this as a point of potential expansion [1:28:56] down the line? Rambi, that's out of [1:28:58] order for this. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. [1:29:00] » Um, yes, I was going to say that would [1:29:01] be a very, I think, positive way to look [1:29:04] at it. This is a change. This will be [1:29:06] the first time administering this. It'll [1:29:08] be impacting um employees across the [1:29:10] city, but we are a smaller organization. [1:29:13] there is limited applicability of um how [1:29:16] often this happens, but I think [1:29:18] revisiting it in the future um to see if [1:29:21] this program is adequate to see if it [1:29:23] needs to be adjusted. I think we could [1:29:24] certainly commit to coming back um [1:29:27] whether it's a year, whether it's 18 [1:29:28] months from now and just say this has [1:29:29] been our experience with it um and see [1:29:32] if there's need to make any adjustments [1:29:34] or consider changing it. [1:29:36] » Okay, I'd be very happy with that. Um, [1:29:39] obviously if anyone else on council [1:29:40] wants to weigh in, they can, but um, [1:29:42] thank you. I really appreciate all of [1:29:44] that additional conversation. [1:29:46] » Certainly. [1:29:47] » Anyone else? Alder person Maliki then [1:29:50] older person Pesky. [1:29:51] » Um, I mean, Alder person Bing does make [1:29:54] a good point about this. Um my just [1:29:56] quick question is could um in the rare [1:29:59] occasion that this does happen where [1:30:00] there's you know a couple that are both [1:30:02] employed by the city uh and they don't [1:30:04] get the same benefit that you know two [1:30:08] other couples would if they're working [1:30:09] for two different organizations [1:30:12] would there poss could there be any sort [1:30:13] of you know legal standing where they [1:30:16] could come back you know and you know [1:30:19] okay just I just asked him the question [1:30:21] I don't know you know weird things [1:30:23] happen [1:30:23] » If you want [1:30:26] unequivocally no. [1:30:27] » Okay, [1:30:27] » This is our benefit for our employees. [1:30:31] What someone else gets with a different [1:30:33] employer is not applicable. This is a [1:30:35] employee benefit. This is a new benefit. [1:30:38] Right. Right. [1:30:38] » So, and as the director said, it has to [1:30:42] be operational, meaning it needs to be [1:30:44] employed and worked through in this [1:30:47] organization's okay. [1:30:48] » Best interests. And as Ben said, changes [1:30:50] can be made going forward, but your [1:30:52] scenario is not anything we have to [1:30:55] worry about. [1:30:55] » Okay. Thank you. [1:30:58] » Alder person Pashky, then older person [1:30:59] mayor. [1:31:01] » Um, so I I understand [1:31:04] uh the points being made here. I tend to [1:31:08] agree with Alder person Bowering that it [1:31:11] would be good to review this again in [1:31:13] the future because I can see how through [1:31:16] the employees, you know, lens, it feels [1:31:19] like a real a big disadvantage for the [1:31:22] couple if they're both employees. um [1:31:25] versus their co-workers who if you know [1:31:28] one birthing co-orker gets the two weeks [1:31:30] paid and the other one has to choose to [1:31:32] take only one week paid because their p [1:31:34] spouse wants to take one week paid that [1:31:36] that feels like a disadvantage. So I [1:31:38] would like to review it in the future. [1:31:40] Um but if I can ask a question about [1:31:43] another section of this is that okay [1:31:46] since I have the floor um the [1:31:48] educational assistance [1:31:51] » Is that budgeted by department? It is [1:31:54] okay. [1:31:54] » Yes, it's part of the budget process [1:31:56] annually. So employees need to uh [1:31:59] approach their department head to [1:32:01] request it. Um and it goes through a [1:32:03] formal approval process with with the [1:32:05] budget. [1:32:07] » So they have to actually request it [1:32:09] before like during the budget process. [1:32:12] Correct. Have to be planning ahead to [1:32:13] ask for it. [1:32:14] » Yes. [1:32:14] » Okay. [1:32:15] » Thank you. [1:32:16] » Sure. [1:32:17] » Alder person mayor. I just wanted [1:32:20] clarification because I thought I [1:32:21] understood what we were talking about [1:32:23] with the married co-workers employed by [1:32:26] Geneva. Um, is it that each one only [1:32:29] gets one week then? [1:32:32] » Okay. Yeah, that seems really hokey. So, [1:32:34] maybe we should consider it in the [1:32:36] future. I'll support it to pass and get [1:32:39] this [1:32:40] » Going, but I think it's weird. Like, [1:32:43] » If you're both employed here, you should [1:32:45] get the same two weeks that everybody [1:32:47] else gets. I think if that's something [1:32:49] the council wants us to continue to look [1:32:51] at, we can certainly keep track and when [1:32:53] future upd up updates come forward or in [1:32:56] a year from now when we if we don't have [1:32:58] any updates, we can commit to providing [1:33:01] an update to the council. I don't think [1:33:02] that's [1:33:03] » I don't think it's going to happen in [1:33:04] this next year. So, I think that's safe. [1:33:07] » Never know, [1:33:09] » But that's fine. We I I think it's safe [1:33:11] to say that's a very reasonable request [1:33:14] to [1:33:15] » Thank you. [1:33:16] » Sure. Alder person Pashki for a second [1:33:19] time. Then [1:33:21] » Then Dean [1:33:23] » Dean, you have not yet spoken on this [1:33:24] matter. Then older person Pashki. [1:33:26] » Um this is a lot of housekeeping [1:33:29] apparently where we're sort of [1:33:30] tightening up some things that were sort [1:33:32] of open-ended. Um [1:33:35] » Um just for the public's benefit, a few [1:33:38] of these things I think are important. [1:33:40] um uh when someone leaves our employment [1:33:44] uh they can only uh be reimbursed up to [1:33:47] 60 days. That's sick sick days that [1:33:50] they'd accumulated as well as vacation [1:33:52] days, right? [1:33:54] » Um which section are you referring to? [1:33:56] » Well, the one that refers to it. I don't [1:33:59] have it. [1:34:00] » No, that's okay. Are you talking about [1:34:03] » Pay? [1:34:04] » The sick pay benefit on a retiree. Sure. [1:34:06] Okay. Thank you for Thank you for [1:34:08] clarify. [1:34:10] I I apologize. Um, [1:34:11] » And I would assume that in the past that [1:34:13] was sort of open-ended and we have [1:34:15] people that sometimes never want to take [1:34:16] their vacation and then all of a sudden [1:34:18] they retire and they got 150 days of [1:34:21] vacation time they've accumulated. [1:34:23] » Sure. [1:34:23] » And u, [1:34:24] » You know, I had a [clears throat] past [1:34:26] experience where this was the case, but [1:34:28] I think this is was it open-ended [1:34:30] before? [1:34:31] » It wasn't. No, the 480 hours uh has been [1:34:34] a longstanding uh policy. [1:34:36] » Okay. So then what's really changed here [1:34:38] then? So what's changed is the time that [1:34:40] they're paid out um [1:34:42] » Onetime payment at severance or correct [1:34:45] separation [1:34:45] » Upon retirement and that really um has [1:34:49] to do with IMRF retirees. So what can [1:34:52] happen um and it's uh an unintended uh [1:34:57] consequence of paying out um sick time [1:35:00] like that. But what can happen is um if [1:35:03] a retiree leaves and they have a very [1:35:05] large balance as you referenced um we [1:35:09] can get an unbudgeted accelerated [1:35:11] payment from IMRF. Uh so it's also [1:35:14] referred to as pension spiking because [1:35:17] IMRF was not anticipating that kind of [1:35:20] increase to the employee salary. So IMRF [1:35:23] does allow employers to mitigate that. [1:35:26] You just have to pay the sick time in [1:35:28] the month following retirement. Okay. [1:35:30] » Um, so that creates an exemption that [1:35:32] saves the city money and then it doesn't [1:35:35] allow for an unbudgeted um increase to [1:35:39] that retirees pension. So it's [1:35:40] safeguarding, if you will, um, without [1:35:44] making this benefit something greater [1:35:46] than it's intended to be. So it's uh, [1:35:48] just operational. It has nothing to do [1:35:50] with the amount of the benefit. [1:35:52] » As it relates to vacation time, is there [1:35:54] a cap on what an employee can [1:35:56] accumulate? [1:35:58] In other words, uh, [1:36:01] » Per year. [1:36:02] » Do we get to a point where an employee [1:36:03] has to use vacation time? Because I [1:36:05] think that's important that people take [1:36:07] vacation. [1:36:08] » It is very important. Yes. Employees are [1:36:10] allowed to carry over um up to a week of [1:36:12] vacation from year to year. [1:36:14] » Carry over unused. Yes. And I I want to [1:36:17] say the maximum is 25 days that somebody [1:36:21] can acrue throughout the year. [1:36:24] » And I'd say and that's that's been a [1:36:26] recent change. Um the city um until very [1:36:30] recently did not permit any carryover [1:36:32] vacation time. We were a true use it or [1:36:34] lose it type approach to paid leave. And [1:36:36] then uh just about two years ago we made [1:36:38] the switch to allow employees to carry [1:36:40] over up to up to the five days. [1:36:42] » No, there are some other things here I [1:36:44] want to you know uh make note of. The [1:36:47] fact that if you're going to donate [1:36:48] blood, you can get time off to do that, [1:36:51] » Which is great. And the other one uh [1:36:53] when the city reimbures or provides for [1:36:57] advanced education [1:36:59] uh 0 to 180 days if they leave during [1:37:03] that time frame they are uh entitled [1:37:05] they're obligated to repay to the city [1:37:08] for what uh what uh they were reimbursed [1:37:10] in uh 180 days to 360 days 75%. So I [1:37:15] think that's a good move. And the other [1:37:17] one is is that uh notice in other words [1:37:20] uh when we have department heads that [1:37:22] leave they need to give 30 days notice [1:37:24] other employees uh 10 10 days. So uh did [1:37:28] we tighten that up or uh was that [1:37:30] something that uh that uh did not really [1:37:33] exist previously? [1:37:34] » Um the standard notice period has [1:37:36] existed. What we tightened up in here [1:37:38] was clarifying that the last day of [1:37:41] employment is the last day worked. [1:37:43] » Okay. There have been times occasionally [1:37:46] um where the question has come up and [1:37:49] somebody wants to use uh paid time off [1:37:51] that would not be getting paid out like [1:37:53] personal time. Okay. [1:37:54] » Um to extend their employment and um you [1:37:59] know we we wanted to clarify you have to [1:38:01] be here for your last day of work. It [1:38:02] affects insurance. It affects um it [1:38:05] affects what they're eligible for at [1:38:07] payout time. So, [1:38:09] » And as the other point is is that when [1:38:11] we have people that retire u before they [1:38:14] can collect social security or they [1:38:16] they're on Medicare, the city will uh [1:38:20] allow them to purchase the city's [1:38:22] insurance package uh up to a certain [1:38:25] point. Is that uh during the length of [1:38:28] the contract or is it indefinite? [1:38:31] » Yeah. No, they actually can stay on [1:38:33] indefinitely. It's per Illinois [1:38:35] legislation. So, if an individual leaves [1:38:39] employment uh with a municipality and [1:38:41] they are eligible for a pension, so [1:38:43] they're eligible to retire under that [1:38:44] pension, um it's the Illinois um public [1:38:47] employee continuation act. We have to [1:38:49] allow them to stay on their plan. Um but [1:38:53] they pull they pay the full cost of the [1:38:55] plan. So unlike COBRA, it's not capped [1:38:58] at 18 months or 36 months if you become [1:39:00] Medicare eligible. Most retirees do drop [1:39:04] it upon Medicare because it's a [1:39:06] tremendous cost reduction in going to [1:39:08] Medicare, but where you see it taken the [1:39:10] most is really our first responders [1:39:12] since their retirement age is 50, right? [1:39:15] So, they have a ways to go um in making [1:39:18] it to the finish line for insurance. So, [1:39:21] that is per uh legislation, state [1:39:23] legislation. And we have we have a lot [1:39:24] of employees that probably are retiring [1:39:26] between 55 and 60 in certain departments [1:39:29] and because they've accumulated enough [1:39:31] time that they can retire if they want [1:39:33] to. So how how is their [1:39:36] » Uh insurance actually [1:39:38] » Uh calculated? In other words, is that a [1:39:42] percentage uh of uh our total insurance [1:39:45] package then for an employee or I guess [1:39:48] I I [1:39:49] » I'm just curious as to uh obviously that [1:39:52] might be pretty attractive to an [1:39:54] employee versus going into the uh open [1:39:56] market and trying to secure health [1:39:58] insurance. Sure. [1:39:58] » So we could be insuring someone for [1:40:03] » 12 years. [1:40:04] » Yes. [1:40:04] » Is that possible? [1:40:05] » Uh that's very it's very possible. So, [1:40:07] um, [1:40:08] » Well, they could not insuring, but they [1:40:10] could be utilizing the city's insurance [1:40:12] policy for 12 years. [1:40:14] » Correct. So, the nice thing is that the [1:40:16] city is fully insured, um, which is a a [1:40:19] benefit in those situations. So, we're [1:40:21] not uh self-insured like uh some other [1:40:23] municipalities where we're um having [1:40:26] those claims um come against us, if you [1:40:29] will, uh when it comes to budgeting. [1:40:31] But, uh yes, they can stay on it, but [1:40:33] the city no longer contributes to their [1:40:35] premiums. So the city does not pay [1:40:38] anything for them to actually maintain [1:40:40] the insurance. So if the plan is a [1:40:42] single PO and it costs $980 a month [1:40:46] full, that's [clears throat] what [1:40:47] they're responsible for. Whereas an [1:40:49] employee, they were paying, you know, 10 [1:40:51] and something. So they uh they take that [1:40:54] burden on. Um a lot of them do if they [1:40:57] find secondary employment that offers uh [1:40:59] coverage, they'll transition at that [1:41:01] time, too. [1:41:05] I had one more. We assume we assume the [1:41:08] liability though if that person is on [1:41:10] our insurance and let's say they have a [1:41:12] a serious illness. [1:41:13] » Absolutely. Yes, it does hit our [1:41:15] » We carry forward after they've left our [1:41:17] employment with that responsibility as [1:41:20] well. [1:41:20] » It does hit our experience. Yep. [1:41:22] » That's all I had. Thank you. [1:41:23] » Sure. [1:41:24] » Alder person pesky. [1:41:27] I just wanted to bring us back to the [1:41:28] parental care leave. U just to point out [1:41:30] that that section appears to only apply [1:41:34] to non-bargaining unit employees. And I [1:41:36] know before there were examples being [1:41:37] given of um police and fire and that [1:41:41] this actually greatly reduces the [1:41:44] population of employees that would be [1:41:45] impacted by this but also doesn't have [1:41:47] the same effects that were being [1:41:48] discussed before. [1:41:50] » Sure. So police do have a clause in [1:41:52] their contract where they will get this [1:41:54] benefit. Oh, they do. [1:41:55] » So, they do and I'm sure that um other [1:41:59] bargaining groups will ask for it [1:42:01] » To follow, but police does have a me too [1:42:04] clause, if you will, specifically to [1:42:06] this. So, uh police and non-union [1:42:08] certainly at this time. [1:42:13] » Anyone [clears throat] else? Older [1:42:14] person Reini. [1:42:17] » Yeah, if I could, I wanted to pivot a [1:42:18] bit and ask about the educational [1:42:20] assistance benefit. [1:42:22] » Um how long two questions. How long has [1:42:24] that been in play and what's been your [1:42:26] experience with it? How has it been [1:42:27] used? [1:42:28] » Sure. So, it it's been in existence for [1:42:31] a long time. I can't tell you the exact [1:42:34] um uh time that it became active in the [1:42:38] personal policy manual. I could look [1:42:39] back [1:42:40] » And get you that answer though. But um I [1:42:43] believe for a long time, and feel free [1:42:45] to speak to it, Ben, it was not utilized [1:42:48] uh by departments. Um but as of recent [1:42:51] we have had two individuals at public [1:42:53] works utilize this benefit both for [1:42:56] higher ed. Um one individual [1:42:59] transitioned out of a field operations [1:43:02] role to a front office management [1:43:05] position. So it's very beneficial for [1:43:07] us. Um and the other uh is aspirational [1:43:10] and um uh pursuing you know an MPA with [1:43:14] it too. [1:43:15] » A masters of public administration. Yes. [1:43:18] Yes. So, both at public works, um both [1:43:22] in positions that are very challenging [1:43:24] to hire for where we want to to retain, [1:43:27] but that has all been um uh submitted [1:43:30] and approved through the budget over [1:43:32] multiple years. [1:43:34] » Okay. [1:43:35] » Thank you. [1:43:35] » Sure. [1:43:38] » Anyone else? [1:43:41] » City clerk, are you prepared for the [1:43:43] roll call on resolution 2026-104? [1:43:47] » Mayor [1:43:49] I [1:43:49] » Conquest. [1:43:50] » Hi, [1:43:51] » Kashki. [1:43:52] » I [1:43:52] » Reini. [1:43:53] » Hi, [1:43:54] » Bing. [1:43:55] » I Furnish. [1:43:56] » I [1:43:57] » Kilbert. [1:43:57] » Hi, [1:43:58] » Caser. [1:43:59] » I [1:43:59] » Maliki. [1:44:00] » I. [1:44:00] » The resolution has been adopted with [1:44:02] nine affirmative votes, zero nay votes, [1:44:04] and one council member absent. We're at [1:44:06] public comment, folks. Anyone still [1:44:08] hanging out with us here at the council [1:44:10] chamber wish to share any thoughts? [1:44:14] If not, we'll move to new business from [1:44:15] the deis and then I'll [1:44:18] » Recognize Ben older person Maliki. [1:44:21] » Uh thank you, mayor. Um I wanted to ask [1:44:24] uh city administrator Voit um just if uh [1:44:27] how things are going. I know part of our [1:44:30] um quarterly updates with uh action [1:44:33] items and goals. Uh uh there's an item [1:44:36] there that's been importantly uh so in [1:44:40] my opinion in the news and that's the [1:44:41] use of flat cameras. Uh I know there's a [1:44:44] plan to probably uh hopefully present in [1:44:46] front of council by the end of October. [1:44:48] I think it's probably important for [1:44:50] there's a lot of members of the [1:44:51] community I think that are concerned and [1:44:53] several of our neighboring communities [1:44:55] I've seen in the news lately like Homer [1:44:56] Glenn and uh have been uh you know [1:45:02] cutting their ties and their contracts [1:45:03] with Flock. So um I wanted to know just [1:45:06] if the you know I'd like to see a [1:45:08] presentation you know as planned coming [1:45:10] up soon. So, [1:45:11] » So I the exact language in the budget um [1:45:16] you'll have to forgive me, but I believe [1:45:17] it said some to the effect of explore [1:45:21] the option of using flot cameras. So, it [1:45:24] was not a commitment to request for a [1:45:27] purchase, but really to look at the [1:45:29] benefits of the this type of equipment [1:45:32] in Geneva. in conversations with the the [1:45:35] chief um and [clears throat] reviewing [1:45:37] what is happening in neighboring [1:45:39] communities and elsewhere. Uh we have [1:45:43] opted to not move forward with any sort [1:45:45] of review or conversation [1:45:48] um in terms of implementing block [1:45:50] cameras. So there we don't have anything [1:45:54] to present uh because it's not something [1:45:56] that the police department has spent a [1:45:59] significant amount of time on. [1:46:00] » Okay. [1:46:01] » Yeah. We've agreed to just not move [1:46:02] forward with that and that actually will [1:46:04] be reflected in the next goal update. [1:46:07] » Okay. All right. Thank you. [1:46:08] » Yeah. [1:46:11] » New [clears throat] business. Anyone [1:46:12] else? Otherwise, I'll recognize the [1:46:14] assistant city administrator, Mr. [1:46:15] McCriedy. And then you have something as [1:46:17] well. Sir, [1:46:18] » I was just going to mention um all of [1:46:21] you at your spots. There's some [1:46:22] postcards there. As you know, strategic [1:46:25] plan advisory committee has the upcoming [1:46:27] uh community forum we're going to be [1:46:28] hosting at Geneva Public Library this [1:46:30] month. Uh, one of the things the [1:46:32] committee strives for is to try and have [1:46:34] at least two individuals from every [1:46:36] ward. Um, so we are looking for friends, [1:46:39] neighbors. Part of our goals is to make [1:46:41] sure that individuals are familiar with [1:46:43] the strategic plan. Um, we've got a lot [1:46:46] of community stakeholders that know [1:46:47] we've got a plan that are very active in [1:46:49] it, but we're trying to make sure that [1:46:50] we are getting out to our residents so [1:46:52] they are familiar with not only the [1:46:54] strategic plan, but with the goals of [1:46:55] city council. And so this is a great way [1:46:57] to come out and do a crash course. uh [1:46:59] Spack will be there. Uh we'll have [1:47:02] almost everyone there that evening. So, [1:47:04] it's it's a great time to come in and [1:47:06] just learn what the plan is, learn what [1:47:08] we've done, learn where it's going. Um [1:47:10] so, we'd really appreciate your [1:47:11] assistance and helping get those [1:47:12] postcards out. Uh you know, write a [1:47:15] small write a short note on there, drop [1:47:16] it off at a friend's door, but anything [1:47:18] you can do uh to encourage residents to [1:47:20] attend, we would appreciate it. So, [1:47:23] thank you, [1:47:24] » Miss White. [1:47:26] » Thank you. I wanted to share with the [1:47:28] council and community that this Friday [1:47:30] is the 25th anniversary of uh 911 and [1:47:34] the combined police and fire departments [1:47:36] will be hosting a very brief remembrance [1:47:39] service uh I'm sorry event at here at [1:47:41] city hall will start at 9:15 sharp rain [1:47:44] or shine very brief the plan is uh for [1:47:48] it to run from 9:15 to 9:30 but just [1:47:51] something to pause and reflect on this [1:47:53] anniversary and that was shared on the [1:47:55] city's social media media today as well. [1:47:57] So that's it. Thank you. [1:48:01] » If there's nothing else, I'll entertain [1:48:03] a motion to adjourn the city council [1:48:04] meeting. [1:48:05] » Motion by Kasarog. All in favor of [1:48:08] adjourning, please indicate by saying I. [1:48:10] » We're adjourned. [1:51:15] Good evening. Uh this is the committee [1:51:17] of the whole meeting uh Tuesday, [1:51:19] September 8th. My name is Dean Kilberg [1:51:23] and uh I want to call uh the committee [1:51:25] of the whole meeting to order. Uh, item [1:51:28] two on the agenda this evening, approve [1:51:30] committee of the whole minutes from [1:51:31] August 17, 2026 and special committee of [1:51:34] the whole minutes from August 21st, [1:51:37] 2026. Is there a motion to approve? [1:51:39] » So moved. [1:51:39] » Second. [1:51:40] » There's a motion to approve. And there's [1:51:43] a second. Any discussion? If not, a [1:51:46] voice vote. Those in favor signify by [1:51:48] saying I. [1:51:50] » Opposed? Carries. [1:51:53] 90. [1:51:54] Uh under items of business for this [1:51:56] evening, item A, consider draft uh [1:52:00] resolution authorizing the purchase of [1:52:02] two Ford Maverick hybrid vehicles from [1:52:05] Sourcewell [1:52:07] Sutton Ford uh Matisen uh Illinois in [1:52:12] the amount of $72,42.90. [1:52:16] Is there a motion to approve? [1:52:18] » Second. A motion by uh mayor, I believe, [1:52:23] and seconded by [1:52:25] » Pashki. [1:52:25] » Oh, I'm sorry. Was it over here? [1:52:27] » Martha, sorry. Uh Pashki and uh and uh [1:52:32] Palmquist. [1:52:34] Okay. Uh is there an overview on this? [1:52:36] Uh [1:52:37] » Yes, [1:52:37] » Miss Voit. [1:52:38] » Yes, thank you. Uh just briefly, this uh [1:52:41] request before the council is something [1:52:43] that was approved through the fiscal [1:52:45] year 2027 budget. It's two replacement [1:52:48] vehicles for our community development [1:52:50] division. The requested vehicles are [1:52:52] hybrid and include enhanced safety [1:52:54] features that will assist staff during [1:52:56] the winter months, uh, specifically the [1:52:58] all-wheel drive, and they will be [1:53:00] purchased through the source contract. [1:53:01] And we do have Director Degrroot here if [1:53:03] there are additional questions. [1:53:07] » It appears we don't have any questions. [1:53:09] I take it we're ready to vote. Those in [1:53:11] favor, uh, let's have a roll call on [1:53:14] that. Okay. [1:53:17] Pashki. [1:53:17] » Hi [1:53:18] » Reini. [1:53:19] » Hi [1:53:20] » Bing. [1:53:21] » I [1:53:22] » Fernish. [1:53:23] » I [1:53:23] » Kilberg. [1:53:24] » I [1:53:25] » Pasarog. [1:53:26] » I [1:53:26] » Malake. [1:53:27] » I [1:53:28] » Mayor. [1:53:28] » I [1:53:29] » Palmquist. [1:53:30] » I know. [1:53:33] Item B, consider draft resolution [1:53:35] authorizing the city administrator to [1:53:37] execute a contract for 2026 Hamilton [1:53:40] Street drainage improvements to Fox [1:53:42] Excavating in the amount of $55,660 [1:53:46] with a 10% contingency for the total [1:53:49] authorized project cost not to exceed [1:53:51] $61,226. [1:53:54] Is there moved by uh Malakei and [1:53:58] seconded by mayor? Uh Miss Voit the [1:54:02] overview. [1:54:04] » Thank you. Uh this item seeks to address [1:54:06] drainage and storm sewer matters along [1:54:08] Hamilton Street between Richard Street [1:54:10] and Anderson Boulevard. The scope of [1:54:13] work is outlined in the executive [1:54:14] summary. The city bid this project and [1:54:17] did receive 10 bids. Uh, and the request [1:54:19] before the council specifically is to [1:54:21] approve the lowest bid from Fox [1:54:24] Excavating and Assistant Director [1:54:26] Landers is here if there are questions. [1:54:29] » Okay. Do we have any questions for [1:54:31] Nathan? [1:54:33] » Yes, Bill. [1:54:37] » Uh, just one one question. Is there a [1:54:40] estimated date of [1:54:42] start date and completion for this or [1:54:45] » That's a great question. Uh we are [1:54:47] trying to move as quickly as possible. [1:54:48] Obviously we're running out of out of [1:54:50] great days to to work on this. So as [1:54:52] soon as it passes through the council [1:54:55] process, we are planning on moving [1:54:56] forward with it. [1:54:57] » Okay. Yeah. All right. Thank Yeah. Thank [1:54:59] you. I appreciate this uh coming forward [1:55:01] to us. So [1:55:01] » Sure. [1:55:02] » Any other questions? [1:55:05] If not, I take it we're ready to vote. [1:55:07] Uh let's take a [laughter] roll call on [1:55:09] that. [1:55:11] » Malkey. [1:55:12] » I. [1:55:13] » Mayor. [1:55:14] » I. [1:55:14] » Palest. I [1:55:16] » Pashki [1:55:17] » I [1:55:17] » Reiniki [1:55:18] » Hi [1:55:19] » Bing [1:55:20] » I [1:55:20] » Furnish [1:55:21] » I [1:55:22] » Kilberg [1:55:22] » I [1:55:23] » Kasro [1:55:24] » I [1:55:25] » It's 90 carries [snorts] [1:55:28] item C uh consider draft resolution [1:55:31] authorizing the city administrator to [1:55:33] execute a change order and amending [1:55:34] resolution number 2026-52 [1:55:37] in the amount of $40,666.75 [1:55:42] to Globe Construction Company for the [1:55:44] total Toal cost of $295,666.75 [1:55:50] for 2026 pavement marking curb and [1:55:54] sidewalk replacement program. [1:55:57] Second [1:55:57] » Moved and seconded. Bing and Pashki. Uh [1:56:04] the overview on this please. [1:56:06] » Thank you. Uh, this item is a request to [1:56:09] amend a previously approved contract [1:56:11] with Globe Construction that was [1:56:13] approved by the city council in May of [1:56:15] this year for the sidewalk replacement [1:56:17] program. The reason for the amendment is [1:56:19] the dollar amount that was in the [1:56:21] executive summary and the dollar amount [1:56:23] in the resolution did not match. So, [1:56:26] this item is strictly to correct and [1:56:28] ensure that the appropriate amount is [1:56:30] approved by the city council. The total [1:56:32] dollar amount difference is $40,666.75. [1:56:37] So there is no budgetary impact. This is [1:56:40] simply correcting an error and ensuring [1:56:42] that the record is correct in terms of [1:56:43] what the council approved and the [1:56:45] assistant director stayed. If there are [1:56:48] questions, [1:56:50] » Apparently this was a clerical [1:56:53] apparently this was a clerical error [1:56:54] that we didn't catch when we approved it [1:56:57] some time ago. And this is just [1:56:59] rectifying what the actual bid, the [1:57:01] awarded bid was. [1:57:02] » That's correct. [1:57:03] » Okay. Um, are there any other questions? [1:57:08] If not, uh, would you please read the [1:57:10] role? [1:57:12] » Bing. [1:57:13] » I, [1:57:15] » Hi. [1:57:16] » Pilberg, [1:57:17] » I [1:57:21] » Mayor. [1:57:21] » I [1:57:22] » Pquist. [1:57:23] » Hi, [1:57:24] » Pashki. [1:57:24] » I Reini. [1:57:26] » I carries. 90. [1:57:29] Okay. Um, under public comment, anyone [1:57:33] have anything they'd like to share? [1:57:36] Uh, this was touched on briefly by, uh, [1:57:39] Miss Voy, uh, uh, Friday marks the 25th [1:57:43] anniversary of 911 and, uh, uh, almost [1:57:49] three 3,000 Americans lost their life [1:57:51] that day. I just thought it'd be [1:57:53] appropriate tonight maybe just to take a [1:57:55] moment and to share a thought. I think [1:57:58] through our life uh sometimes there are [1:58:01] events that are lodged in our memory [1:58:04] that we remember very vividly and uh I'm [1:58:07] just going to open it up to the council [1:58:09] tonight and I'll I'll start to give you [1:58:10] a moment to think about this but u where [1:58:14] was I on 9101? [1:58:16] Uh on the morning of 911, I was uh at [1:58:20] Meyer purchasing a few items. I had a [1:58:23] business trip to De Moine and uh already [1:58:26] at Meyer uh midm morning uh word was [1:58:29] beginning to spread that uh something [1:58:32] was happening in New York that was [1:58:33] eventful and uh I purchased what I [1:58:37] needed. I went home and uh I was able to [1:58:40] witness the uh the two uh World Trade [1:58:44] Center towers uh crumble to the ground. [1:58:48] Uh that afternoon I drove to De Moine [1:58:50] for my meeting and uh one of the things [1:58:52] that stays in my mind and when I hear [1:58:55] 911 I I remember vividly was the fact [1:58:58] that as I drove across northern Illinois [1:59:01] and on Interstate 80 to De Moine in [1:59:03] Iowa, the sky was a beautiful blue, but [1:59:07] there was something that was void and [1:59:09] that was any jet traffic or any streams [1:59:12] that normally fill the sky on such a [1:59:14] clear day. And uh as I think about 9/11, [1:59:19] uh that's that's what I recall. And uh I [1:59:24] uh I uh that will stay with those those [1:59:28] events uh uh such as uh Kennedy [1:59:32] assassination or the Oklahoma bombing. [1:59:35] Those things that uh you just never [1:59:37] forget. And it's at the moment it's [1:59:40] almost as you're reliving it the next [1:59:42] day that you can you can see it and you [1:59:44] can feel it. But uh is there anyone else [1:59:47] that would like to share a thought and [1:59:49] memorializing those that lost their life [1:59:51] that day? [1:59:57] If not [1:59:58] uh [2:00:00] I guess we're prepared to adjurnn. Is [2:00:02] there a motion to adjurnn? [2:00:05] » Those in favor signify by saying I. I [2:00:08] » Oppose. [2:00:10] Have a good evening.