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just think. Oh, yeah. But what do you say is as I was walking into this room, because I didn't. Just, I'm having my lunch. I'm not.

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Oh, that's good.

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Yeah, obviously.

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I don't see the.

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That's.

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It's.

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No, I would tell.

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I.

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It.

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So we've been missing for a moment to send you out of it.

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We come for you all.

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So.

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Global is known as an engine.

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I send it.

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If I went back after you and had part of it.

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That's right.

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Where is that?

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Yeah, I'm real.

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I think.

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Step on it.

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It's the same.

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I'm going to ask my question.

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Val.

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That would be the list of all cells.

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Enduro syndrome.

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And that was it.

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One day.

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So, there's a bunch of other cities that have similar cities.

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I can send that over.

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So, we're from the state law.

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It's the same person that needs to be very clear.

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The RCW, I found that the council can approve a removal, they just can't initiate one, so I think that's the change that needs to happen.

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and I, and I guess in either way, my notes. Yeah, excuse me. Yeah. I'm more free tomorrow.

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What? Yeah. I don't know what I'm able to find interviews.

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Oh, it's very special. I also submitted a request to MRSE for their feedback team. Yeah.

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Uh, I guess I am. Okay, we don't want to talk about tonight. I'm going to be there. Oh, well,

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Oh, I guess I was thinking about it again.

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Thank you.

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It's a direct situation that trust is involved.

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Jason, I got so excited.

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I never wanted to talk.

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What would you do with your thoughts?

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At the moment, council hasn't presented anything directly

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until we passed new rules.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I guess I was assuming that you were going to present it

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or Mike, since Mike presented the rules originally.

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So we'll know that.

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I just.

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Hey, Mark.

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Let's talk afterwards.

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I might have two options for you.

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I'm going to have to

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I have to wish.

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I'm going to use that.

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What's this?

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I know.

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It's supposed to be.

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I think this is on your agenda.

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They have.

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You know, we couldn't have these things.

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We want to get very.

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So, say as I'm meeting.

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It's going to be nice to have them all the time.

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how's it going?

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Thank you.

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How are you?

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How are you?

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Good.

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I love the paw.

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It's you.

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I've got to go down.

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It's over here.

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Is he leaving for 10 days tomorrow?

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Yeah, he's headed to West Yellow Bulls outside of West Yellow Zone, oh honey. Yeah, so he's excited. He lives for this season.

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So you also need an agenda item number.

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And so you want to hear my newest adventure and I like question.

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I don't know how constitutional this is, but I feel like they have to disclose what a place was.

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Oh, this is a red.

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So this is 20%.

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It's like.

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It's like three.

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This just makes me feel so full and happy.

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I'm feel so happy all the time.

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I think I really want to say,

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I'm really happy.

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I am really happy.

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I am really happy.

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I am really happy because it's...

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the dust on there that's the whole time. This is you.

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this. I just don't know. I've taken up the whole space here with

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So I can't do that. Yeah. I mean, like, oh, that's

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going to be pretty good. I'm just like the pool. This is like,

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oh, yeah. I've heard about insane. Like, missing a one that

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sold. Yeah. Yeah. That means it's not what you would like to see.

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That's not like nothing worse. It's not there. And so it was the

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same electrician guy that came out last time. This is just

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and I'm just like, oh my god.

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But yeah, he's just, he's like,

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so the wire's just supposed to be inside the box.

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That's it.

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Oh, boy, yeah.

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Oh my god.

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Oh my god.

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It was a bit of a way to write the writing.

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He didn't have the redo to write it.

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He just asked me, no.

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Shelley, what is, like, 26,

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he's zero, seven, zero, and so on.

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Yeah, so he ended up like, who's put in, like, yeah.

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Yeah, he's not one.

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And I think now it's amounted to this.

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This is Welsh. He cleaned everything.

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Is this so?

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You were in here, I just need to learn how to pass through.

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Oh, the highlights.

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My God, not me. Oh, God.

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I cannot.

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So my question for you today, you're taking this.

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No, but I expect there.

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So I can bring you to the next page.

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I think this is general.

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I'll remind you something.

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And this, I might find.

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Say you're not.

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We're going on.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You know what it is.

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So, like,

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Like, I like.

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The.

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You said.

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to write after roll call.

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We please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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I plead.

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I plead.

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in this one nation under the law,

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individual with liberty and justice across.

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Thank you.

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Yes, we should have started with,

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we're calling to order a regular city council meeting

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of September eight.

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And then we could have done the pledge.

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But that's okay.

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So a roll call.

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I'm on a roll, Mayor Mark.

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Here.

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Council member Hall.

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Here.

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Council member Mark Hall.

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Council member Potsman.

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Present.

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I would like to make a motion to a gen or to make an addition to a agenda item 26-070 that

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that is for a simply lease agreement

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and it's resolution F517.

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And then secondly, I'd like to amend the agenda

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to add agenda item 26-071.

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That is for council members cell phones

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with resolution F-518.

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And then thirdly and lastly,

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I'd like to amend the agenda under informational items to move the council rules down one slot and in the first informational slot.

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I'd like to yield the floor to Mr Ferguson for some employee recognition.

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There's second second emotion and a second to amend the agenda for two resolutions and employee introductions those in favor.

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Hi. Hi.

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You're opposed? Right. Our agenda has been amended. Thank you.

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At this point, we will proceed with citizen comments.

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A reminder to our citizens that everyone up here is a person too.

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And a reminder to those on the diet that everyone commenting is a person.

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So we will be respectful of one another.

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We have received some citizen comments via email this past couple weeks.

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the first one was on August 25th from Michelle Thompson regarding the Arts Commission.

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Another on the third from Frankie Venca regarding train horns. Again on the third from citizen

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Donnerberg about fluoride and axon contract on September 6th, another from citizen Thompson regarding

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fluoride on September 8th from citizen DeMio regarding fluoride and then on the 8th again an email

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from citizen Miller regarding the ordinance, the chicken keeping ordinance. So we will now do our

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in-person citizen comments with citizen click. If you'll come to the microphone, tell us your name

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and address for the record and then we have a two-minute timer somewhere

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possibly. Look at us on the screen. Look at that. Thank you. My name is Cole Clark.

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I live at 27 North Fifth Street here in Cheney and I am coming to you as a

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longtime Cheney resident and a historian to speak about section 106 of the

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National Historic Preservation Act. There are currently proposed amendments that would disinvolve

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local and state and tribal governments and communities and councils from having opinions

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and being consulted on decisions regarding historic properties and lands. It is my opinion that

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that these proposed amendments by the Federal Committee are not the most-

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We've thought through and not the wisest. We as the individuals of a city on our historic commissions, our local historic organizations, we have a right to be involved in what is done with our historic lands and structures. Without being able to be involved, the chini depot, which I am involved with as a board member, we would not have the depot at this point. If the decision could be made without local or state government,

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and the building could have been torn down

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and we had never had an opportunity

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to preserve a piece of chain history.

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Being able to have this involvement is crucial

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and I think these ideas are unwise,

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is the short version.

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I'd ask the council to do some research into it.

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Make, if you are able, there are opportunities

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these to comment from 90 days,

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I believe that is still ongoing.

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So essentially, help us keep the reigns of history

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local in addition to federal is my ask.

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Oh, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else in person who would like to comment

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did not have a chance to sign up?

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Are there any on one Mary Jones?

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can you hear me?

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Okay. Mary, Mary, you have two minutes. Are you available?

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Last chance?

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Okay, I would encourage you to send your comments to council comments at the city of Chini.

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And at that point, at this point, we will close our citizen comments and, oh, I'm sorry,

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they're more. It has me.

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Okay. Citizen Donnerberg, a reminder, you have two minutes and we say your name

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and address for the record. Yes, my name is

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Karina Donnerberg. I live on any place here in

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Cheney and I just wanted to reiterate what I did

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send the council over email in this public forum.

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I'm concerned about the proposed removal of

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fluoride from city water.

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One, I think there's very

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solid evidence that municipal water fluoridation is a

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practical, cost effective, and equitable way for communities to improve their residents

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oral health, regardless of age education or income, with a reminder to our council

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and those watching that before this current administration and poverty rates in Cheney

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were around 30, 32, 33 percent, and so we do have a significant number of folks living

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and economic hardship. I think from participating in conversations online with other folks in the

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community, I think there's a lot of misinformation floating around about that's got people worried

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about the health impacts of fluoride and I just don't think that the evidence backs those concerns

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and so I hope that the city is looking to the science when making those decisions. We have examples

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of Juno, Alaska, and Calgary who ended municipal water

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fluoridation, Florida, how are we, say that word?

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They picked the Florida out of their water and saw a sharp

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increase in cavities, direct impact, negative impact on

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dental health. I do hear the cost concerns, I want to

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recognize that the axon contract on tonight's agenda is

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almost a quarter of a million dollars and an undisclosed

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amount has been spent on flock cameras, which are actually going to be removed.

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And so I just want to raise public health as an important intervention.

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Thank you.

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And we have someone else who says in box truck.

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You have two minutes.

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Will you please state your name and address for the record?

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Yes.

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Can you hear me?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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My name is Micah Boxer.

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kind of live on Elm Street in Chini. I just wanted to share a couple of pieces of feedback. So one,

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I know that there's been a lot of construction in town this summer and one thing that's been

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really challenging is not having good pre-notification to residents about when the construction is going to

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start or what exactly might happen on their property or adjacent to their property. So my house a

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couple years ago was impacted when they did the water works. They started just digging in our yard and

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they didn't tell us ahead of time so we couldn't have saved plants or prepared the area.

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And then similarly across our street, on the other side of our neighbors were similar

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impacted this summer when they started working on the sidewalks.

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They cut into about a third of their front yard, including rupturing sprinkler lines and

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the water was on because they didn't know that the day that it was coming, they just showed

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up and started digging.

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So we understand that some of these things are to improve the town, but we just want to make

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sure that residents have a chance to prepare ahead of time, you know, because like my

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across the street neighbor is a young parent and their basement could have

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flooded if they didn't realize that the sprinkler lines had ruptured and

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the water was still connected. And second, I would like to echo the previous

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comments about fluoride and the water. I'm a long-time cheney resident as well. I've

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lived here almost 40 years on and off and I've never had any dental cavities and

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even when I didn't have dental insurance when I couldn't afford it, I do think

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that the fluoride and the water following the science is important and the number

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people in Cheney living below the poverty line, which is only gotten worse. I'm sure as gas is

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climbed to $5 plus a gallon, groceries have gotten more and more expensive. So a lot of folks are

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struggling and we want to make sure that kids and everyone else has as much opportunity to have good

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oral health, which can lead to a lot of other health concerns. So I would just start to the council to

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do the research and follow the science and not follow the misinformation being spread online by

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anti-vaxxers and others. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you. So this time we will

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close our citizen comments and proceed to reviewing the minutes from our August 25th regular city council meeting.

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There's a motion and a second to approve the regular city council minutes, those in favor.

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We'll move to vouchers and payroll, Mr. Rouse.

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Madam Mayor, esteemed council members, our vouchers total 266,462 dollars and 33 cents.

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And our payroll is 741,957 and 57 cents.

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I hear the Finance Committee has reviewed these vouchers and payroll and I was moved for approval

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as to that.

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Second.

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There's a motion and a second to approve vouchers and payroll, those in favor?

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Hi.

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Yeah, I'm opposed.

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All right.

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You can see the small contract for DIFFCO to repair a capacitor at the run person building

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that I approved this past couple weeks.

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And so we will now move to our information items.

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and the first one is Mr. Ferguson for employee, new employee introductions.

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Come on up. You need to come on up. Come on up. We're glad to have you. We want them to know.

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We want them to know it. Yeah. Good evening. This is something we've done.

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Years past was introduced to our new employees so we thought we'd try to bring that back and keep

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up on him. We've had a number of new people join our ranks. And so tonight I have Philip

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PJ Chesney with us. He is the Billion Spector Code of Work. Quote that. Code of

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Workman Officer. He's been on board about two months now. Almost ready. Yeah. And he's

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cranking out the code work, which is great. He got caught up speed on the building inspection. So

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a great addition to our team.

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Valerie Marsh, she's our utility specialist

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of public works, been here with us about six weeks.

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Two months?

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Not as old as Pete.

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Time flies.

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I can't.

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Ha ha ha ha.

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Becoming a very valuable member of our front office staff,

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which is great.

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And then Logan, hey, he's been here with us about seven years now.

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I'm like a guest.

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I've missed both of these.

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So, about four months.

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Yeah, he's equipment operating for our department.

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He brings a lot of experience with us,

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city as well. So we've got some great distance to the team and we want to have

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opportunity to introduce and varsity council and administrative staff.

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Thanks for being here, you guys.

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Thank you.

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You don't have to stick around, but I'm not going to hurt our people.

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All right. So now for the informational items are council rules of procedure, Mr.

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please.

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Thank you, Mayor Warren. So just in terms of a rather quick introduction, the

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City Commission tonight, you have an informational item regarded to your a draft set of Teenie

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City Council rules of procedure. These are, this is a document that has worked its way through

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the general government committee. There have been, I believe, a couple of different drafts

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this document the like the desire of the committee was to bring this document to the council tonight

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as an information item perhaps have some conversation between yourself if there's different

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pieces in here that you would like to address or or further explored or whatever. I know that

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Mike and I have met a couple of times around this document we have had the opportunity to review it in

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detail and we'll have some edits to suggest to you some of those are pretty minor.

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There's probably a half dozen items that if you all don't say hey we should talk about

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that then we'll probably put it on your radar to make sure you do talk about it.

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But for the purpose of tonight really all I wanted to do was stand up and say here they are,

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you've had them for now I think two weeks, a little bit longer than two weeks perhaps,

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from when we sent them out immediately after the last general government committee meeting.

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So discuss them on yourselves and we'll be here to take any questions or provide any comments.

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Have you had a chance to look at these? Yes, this is your meeting. And we'll take really good notes.

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Yeah, yeah, if you just for sake of order, feel free to raise your hand or acknowledge so you want to start over here.

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I've reviewed them. I really don't necessarily have any questions. I feel like it.

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It's nice to have a document that allows us to have rules and how work is supposed to navigate to the council. So I don't have a question either of this time.

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You said you discussed it so as all of it has all that been legally vetted at this point, like we know we can move forward with all the.

387
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I have some comments.

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Okay, there we go.

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Can can we hear those?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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I'm not saying that I see things that are not saying there's something that's like giving

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me right.

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So

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I just have some suggestions for how we might work things a little different.

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I do think that it's an improvement over the first draft circulated and there's yeah,

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Yeah, it would take a little bit. It'll take a long time to kind of go through, but I'd be happy to sit down and go through with you.

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Is there any areas that you would highlight for council members to?

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Some arise as I have notes throughout. That's okay. There

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are some little things like Mr. Mies mentioned like for instance on a consent agenda with I believe the intent was that any council member could remove something from the consent agenda.

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what it says is anyone can request that.

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So I would want to clean that up to just say

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any one of you has the ability to pull something off.

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Not just request it, which might request

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presumes it could be denied, right?

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Things like that.

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On 3.7, there's a discussion about the powers of the mayor

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and it includes making motions and a second.

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Those are not included in your studio,

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that gets the mayor the as the word eat.

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So it's a lot of things like this

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that I'm happy to continue to go.

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Yeah, so I'm curious about where the conversations,

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are the conversations happening now

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like are the question about that do I ask it now?

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Or is there like work shopping

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that I read in this document that we would do around this?

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We could do it as a workshop and if you do that's that would be an open public meeting kind of thing like this we can go through it now as well.

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I'm happy to keep plugging along every references or I'm happy to also be.

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So, like, with 3.7, those components aren't in the RCW, so we would be expanding the power. We would be choosing to expand the powers. We actually don't have the authority in that particular case to allow the mayor to make a motion or a second, because the mayor's body is simply in the event of a time. That would be the technical difference on that.

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anyway, we wouldn't include move in second, but it is perfectly acceptable for the mayor to be

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involved in a discussion on a matter that's pending with debate or discussion.

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So question on that on the 3.7 is those say subject to the limitations of the mayor's voting,

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the mayoral voting imposed by the RCW? Is that not clear?

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Well, yeah, that's still the RCW and NL.

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Yeah, that would key somebody in to take a look at it,

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that it's only in the end.

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But even in that case, with a tie, the mayor would not have.

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So then it references 5.3, which is also the mayor,

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a mayor shall only vote where there is a tie,

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where there is a tie vote between health and members

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with respect to matters other than ordinances,

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is France or Revocation of Ransionized or License, which is basically right out of the

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RCW.

435
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Yeah, that's a copy of the RCW.

436
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Okay.

437
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So you just say we should copy that same verb up in the...

438
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That would be the easiest way to do it is just to copy the language from the RCW.

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Okay.

440
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So we'll have two spots in the...

441
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And it could be in both spots or we could take it out of one.

442
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Yeah, that's it.

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That's what I would say.

444
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Take 3.7 out.

445
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It's already mentioned below.

446
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Yeah.

447
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I have a question about in 1.7 the serial meeting we discussed this briefly public works.

448
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One of the, I guess, we did see public works of committee did see council rules maybe

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four months ago.

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It does seem like it's expanded a little bit, but my question is if this was brought back

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to multiple subcommittees, in your opinion, would that constitute a serial meeting?

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typical lawyer answer would be it depends right. I would say I think that there's a way to structure

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this where it wouldn't be considered a serial meeting and I just want to be careful about the way

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that we do that. We don't want to see happening is or what would be potentially problematic would be

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committee A reviews the document makes a bunch of edits to that document and then immediately passes

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is it on to committee B and committee B starts making a bunch of edits and communicating

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back and forth with A saying, oh, here's our edits to your edits. Now you're looking

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at a serial meeting and that would be a violation of the OPMA. Plus, you want to open up

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those committee meetings to the public. That would be the simplest fix is to be open to

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public but I understand there's pros and cons to doing that and so if you want to keep it the way

461
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it currently is I would probably want to break it up a little bit so you have committee A

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make whatever suggestion you know again because these are advisory committees they're not acting on

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behalf of all of you they're not a de facto council they could review the document and make

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recommendations to say committee A is recommending this version to the whole council that would get transmitted through staff to council.

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And then from that point, if we want to get comments from committee B, then it would go again through staff back out that way there's a record of recommendations and not not the

466
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Um, there's less of a concern about, you know, uh, why can't I talk right now?

467
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Uh, uh, deliberating, deliberating behind close groups.

468
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Yes, I guess just to quickly clarify.

469
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So if committee A made their recommendations and got it back to Mr.

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Meast or you as staff saying these were red lines, whatever got those back.

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And then you did whatever you wanted to with those and then gave them the committee B.

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I would recommend at that point that that staff share it with the whole council first set it out like these are the recommended recommended edits for whatever from this committee send it out.

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Don't respond to that then right so you get a copy for informational purposes and then we send it to the next.

474
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Can I expand that a little bit?

475
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Would that be true as well for any agenda item we talked about how to subcommittee?

476
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Are you talking about a document or are you just discussing and I'm talking about any.

477
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So we talked about this in the subcommittee as well that we didn't want to be in violation

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of something if we if we talk about something in the safety subcommittee and then you know a week later

479
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because I'm in that committee I bring it up at public works but I haven't talked to Mr. Misa about it.

480
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Are we then in violation because now we have five people.

481
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So we are talking about that like maybe we haven't been doing that correctly.

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he or her, well, the baby, we should do that start thinking about how we do that. So with

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my questions.

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Accessations are happening completely into there's different aspects. For instance,

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to a project, finances may be talking about the budget or something like that for a proposal.

486
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Safety is talking about a completely different aspect of it. That one doesn't concern me as much.

487
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Of course, you've also got cross-poloneiation between, you know, where you might have one

488
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and council member who's sitting on multiple committees,

489
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so they shouldn't be going to finance committee

490
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
and then reporting everything that was discussed

491
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,800
in finance over to public safety, right?

492
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,920
Because that starts to look a little more serial

493
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:39,740
in terms of.

494
00:36:41,180 --> 00:36:43,360
I think what you just mentioned is what's happening.

495
00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:46,620
Like we talk about something in like safety

496
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,020
subcommittee meeting and they, and we decide,

497
00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:51,740
oh, you know what, public works will have to be involved

498
00:36:51,740 --> 00:36:53,820
in that project at the fire department

499
00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:54,700
or something like that.

500
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,580
because we're going to put new concrete down.

501
00:36:57,140 --> 00:37:06,340
Okay, can we talk to public works about how the new concrete bay will be installed at the fire department?

502
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:06,960
That's okay.

503
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:08,500
Yeah.

504
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,240
Okay, great.

505
00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:17,120
Any other questions, comments about the whole thing?

506
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Yes.

507
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:20,100
Yeah, okay.

508
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,000
Oh, as opposed to just what Mike said.

509
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Yes, as opposed to what Mike said.

510
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,240
But yeah, I would say we either need to do a workshop

511
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:35,260
or I have several things and I spent quite a bit last night

512
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:38,260
looking at it so wouldn't mind making those comments

513
00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:41,560
and then we could just take notes on them and go from there.

514
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,820
Okay, I'll start then.

515
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,760
2.4 study sessions, I think in those comments

516
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560
there's a parenthesis that says during a study session

517
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,680
that it's open to the public, but then from that point on, we don't give any direction

518
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,900
to the public about whether they get to comment or what they get to do in that meeting.

519
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:09,280
I just think we would need to give a little bit more direction about whether the public

520
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:20,340
is supposed to just listen, they get to make comments, whatever, so that's 2.4. 4.5, department

521
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:29,060
So I'm just kind of wondering, this has been something I've wondered for a while, so I'm glad we're kind of here.

522
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:46,180
In 4.5, I was just wondering, it's all about appointments for department heads and senior staff positions, and it lists the staff positions that we're going to make these decisions about.

523
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:51,400
the Administrator, Police, Chief, Finance, Director, City Clerk are all mayor appointed.

524
00:38:51,740 --> 00:39:00,100
So I guess I'm wondering, is this a city of cheesy thing that we have chosen just to

525
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:07,620
make my oral appointments for just these senior staff positions or why aren't all the senior

526
00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:08,960
staff positions mentioned?

527
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:17,660
So I guess my concern was, there's no direction for any other senior staff

528
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:23,560
positions. So are we going to have direction for other senior staff positions because these are our rules

529
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,800
of procedures that's going to be another point under this or something but I think we've left out

530
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:38,260
all the other senior staff positions. These ones that are listed are in the Chimney Municipal Code,

531
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,200
require appointment and confirmation. Okay. The one that's missing is actually me, is the city

532
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,660
Okay, so that would need to be added.

533
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:55,740
So I guess then to expand that would just be, do we want to amend that to include more staff positions?

534
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,220
Or are we fine with the ones that we have?

535
00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:11,560
Just talking out loud, I'll move on, 4.6 commission reports just had a question about the reporting and

536
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,460
and staff reports, and commission reports that says the primary staff liaison director or

537
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:19,120
assigned staff member for each city board.

538
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:23,700
I'm assuming that is that are we talking about the chair there or someone else?

539
00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:28,220
So it would be general, like for example, the park sport.

540
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:28,860
Uh-huh.

541
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,460
Derrick Curley is the staff liaison onto the park sport.

542
00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:41,360
So when he does his staff report, he would also bring me up to speed on park sports.

543
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,740
So a couple of times, you remember how he brought the park's rules.

544
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:51,360
So that would, yeah, okay, fall on it, okay, great, I just wanted to double check that

545
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,100
a chair didn't have to give a report after everything.

546
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:02,580
So although that's down below, he'll be a little bit, so just wondering, okay, 6.2 B item,

547
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:17,830
I'm trying citizen comment, just thinking this is a pretty big change for us and the way that we do citizen comment, I'm in favor of it.

548
00:41:18,090 --> 00:41:26,730
I like it. I like the way that we would do public comment for a specific agenda item, so I think that's helpful and I think it helps us stage our main to a topic.

549
00:41:26,730 --> 00:41:36,690
So I like that, but I think we should, as we, if we decide that that's going to be part

550
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:41,670
of our rules and procedures, I think we need to do a good job of just communicating that

551
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:46,250
during the City Council meeting that we're going to be taking citizen comments about the

552
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:51,730
resolution or about the ordinance, and we begin to kind of roll that out in a way that people

553
00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:56,990
will understand. Oh, I get to comment at this time, not just at the beginning of the meeting.

554
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:58,290
So just thinking about that.

555
00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:07,000
Then 8.4 talked about rejection for public. Yeah.

556
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,300
I know you're real quick while we're here on page 13.

557
00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:17,920
At the end of 6.2 set paragraph 4,

558
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:33,740
This is just something that Mr. Mieson, I wanted to make sure you were aware of what it says is for passage of a resolution requires an affirmative vote of at least a majority of the whole council.

559
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:42,800
So that would mean even if you don't have all seven of you here, you would still need four votes to pass a resolution.

560
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,800
that's not required under Washington law.

561
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:49,120
Typically, it depends on the city, but typically,

562
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,020
it's a majority of those present for a resolution.

563
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:57,680
Unless it has to do with authorizing an expenditure of money

564
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,480
or if it's an ordinance, an ordinance always requires

565
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,680
a majority of your whole body.

566
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,480
So, I just wanted to point that out.

567
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:07,720
I don't know if that was intentional or not,

568
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,300
but I think that would be a change

569
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:15,160
from how I believe we've done it in the past, where it's been a majority of those presidents.

570
00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:18,180
Could we just specify the majority of quorum?

571
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,360
Right, so if we had resolutions, we could say the majority of quorum.

572
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,320
Yeah,

573
00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:29,130
that's a big change.

574
00:43:29,290 --> 00:43:29,530
Thank you.

575
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:30,770
Yeah.

576
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:43,710
Oh, yeah, I think 8.4, we talked about, get down there, I see.

577
00:43:55,940 --> 00:44:17,340
I think one, first of all, one of the comments, I thought it was interesting that there's a lot of language just about the planning commission, and we're just wondering if that needs to be broadened to all the commissions because we eventually might have more of the art commission, but there's just a lot of conversation just specifically.

578
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:37,960
about the planning commission and was just kind of wondering if it might be good to edit that to include so that whenever a commission has anything for us that it's it's any commission that's that this is the type of action that the council will take with any commission recommendations, not just the planning commission.

579
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:41,180
Then next under rejection,

580
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:48,310
sorry, up above at 8.3, we said the council may adopt a planning

581
00:44:48,310 --> 00:44:52,370
permission recommendation by majority vote at any regular special meeting.

582
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:58,410
But then for rejection, we didn't put anything in there about their need to be a majority

583
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:59,970
vote by the council for approval.

584
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:24,180
So, I just felt like if the adoption is going to be by majority vote, then probably the rejection needs to be by majority vote as well. And then that would bring up as well, Mr. Capon, whether that needs to be of the whole quorum or just those present or all, I think that brings up all that as well.

585
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:49,380
12.1. I was wondering it looks like we switched parks and racks to a new subcommittee. So, I'm just wondering if we're, it's just, I'm just wondering because I go to the public work subcommittee and parks and rack has always been in that subcommittee.

586
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:59,440
So if it looks like we're changing it to a different subcommittee, it's not under the public works and utilities and it looks like it's under general government now.

587
00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:12,840
So just wondering if we're wanting to make that switch or maybe we would also talk to Mr. Curly about that, which when he feels like best would suit him.

588
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:25,120
So, just a thought there because it was a change and then 12.3 was all about the chair

589
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,780
at the first committee meeting of the year, new council members will nominate and vote

590
00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:34,340
for who will be committee chair and all that and rotating them every year.

591
00:46:37,850 --> 00:46:41,290
I would rather keep the chair for a longer amount of time.

592
00:46:41,290 --> 00:46:56,050
I think that's helpful for the leadership of that subcommittee meeting to have the chair there for a longer amount of time and for us, the city council members as well, to be in attendance to a subcommittee meeting for subcommittee for a longer amount of time.

593
00:46:56,630 --> 00:47:08,270
I know for me when I was new, it took me at least a year to figure out what was going on in the department that I was the subcommittee at.

594
00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:11,550
And then if you're telling me, right, when I feel like I get my feet,

595
00:47:12,110 --> 00:47:16,870
you're going to switch me to another subcommittee, to me, that just seems a little challenging.

596
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:22,990
I'd like us to see us have a little bit longer tenure there so that we're making good decisions.

597
00:47:23,830 --> 00:47:31,890
And I also think there are certain people that have good wisdom for certain subcommittees

598
00:47:31,890 --> 00:47:50,490
that are really good to have in those subcommittees because that's their field of expertise, so that's what makes them really good in that subcommittee because they understand how all of the stuff in that subcommittee works and the parts of the pieces of that of our city works.

599
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:55,050
And so I think it's good to have them in those subcommittees as well.

600
00:47:55,050 --> 00:48:00,750
so I'll stop there. Let's do that.

601
00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:06,640
I think someone's taking notes. Are you taking notes?

602
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,820
We are. Yes. There's nothing else. It's all reported so you can re-list later.

603
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,920
I also remember right else. I guess I will go next. I tried it. I saw some of the same things

604
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:27,380
Mr. Postuma did. Under 1.1, there's not really a discussion about some committees. I just would

605
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:34,040
like clarity on how subcommittee meetings would be. Are they open to the public or are they not as

606
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:42,780
there are the last section of 1.2 says that the chair can call recess I think there was one instance

607
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:50,140
recently a citizen I don't think was listening to them here to stop talking and I said I'm going to

608
00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:56,460
make a motion to recess I think I think council should have that ability to to call for recess and

609
00:48:56,460 --> 00:48:58,060
there may be other reasons to call the process.

610
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,580
Under 1.4, the request to be,

611
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:07,510
if attendance is not possible,

612
00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:10,950
members of council should contact the mayor prior to a meeting,

613
00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:14,770
maybe just to request being excused.

614
00:49:14,970 --> 00:49:16,810
I don't, you know, there may be personal reasons

615
00:49:16,810 --> 00:49:18,350
why somebody can't be here.

616
00:49:18,850 --> 00:49:21,010
I think our request is sufficient.

617
00:49:21,690 --> 00:49:23,410
I think we all know what our meetings are

618
00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:25,990
and really is anybody not present.

619
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:26,630
So,

620
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:33,830
similarly, on top of page two, state the reason I would probably scratch that.

621
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:37,170
I could talk briefly about 1.7 already.

622
00:49:39,110 --> 00:49:45,530
I think if under 2.2 on page four, if we are going to call special meeting,

623
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:51,390
I think we should disclose my answer to who called the special meeting.

624
00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:53,670
I think we've done that in the past.

625
00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:19,870
Under page 5, 2.7 rolling into top of page 6 the workshop may be scheduled immediately to precede a regular council meeting on the same day. That's tough. That's one of our finance committee meeting is so I would ask a workshop not to be scheduled at our finance committee meeting time.

626
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:28,760
same, I guess, recessed thing and 3.8, again, just enabling council to be able to call recess

627
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:36,740
under 4.2 proclamation. I'm not sure where this definition originated from, but we were talking

628
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:41,800
when we were talking about freedom, we were talking about, you know, is this a adequate time to do

629
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:48,440
a proclamation? Again, I'm not sure if it falls in there perfectly, but I don't know how that

630
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,140
Again, I didn't pull this definition, but my point is if the proclamation definition

631
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:01,100
could probably be aligned to an RCW or a lab. And maybe it is. And maybe it is.

632
00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:08,760
Under section 4.4, page 8, a maximum of two informational items shall be scheduled for regular meeting.

633
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:16,660
I recall instances in the past when we're going through collective bargaining agreements where we

634
00:51:16,660 --> 00:51:22,800
traditionally put those out as informational items before they are brought before us and I think

635
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,160
there's times that there may be two or maybe three. I know we have more than three unions so my

636
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,280
point there is I don't I don't want to be I guess I don't want to have the maximum of informational

637
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:40,120
items I think if there's a need for five then there should be five so that's I think that's a simple

638
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:48,520
scratch, trying to go quick here. On the

639
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,340
top of page 10, maybe it just didn't make sense to me,

640
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:06,100
but an exemption is not counted as a yes vote, which is understood within the second part of that,

641
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,780
and may prevent a matter from passing even if no council members vote against it. I just didn't

642
00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:17,340
understand that second part. I mean I think the first part of that sentence is fine.

643
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:25,770
Is that is that a Robert's rules? Of course that just.

644
00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:34,910
Well I'm sorry councilor were we yet? I'm sorry I was page 10. 5.2. 5.2 so that would mean if a

645
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:41,870
majority abstained and everyone else voted as yes it something wouldn't pass.

646
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,100
Does that make sense?

647
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:52,220
So in this situation, if five people abstained, if two people voted, yes, it wouldn't pass.

648
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:52,600
Correct.

649
00:52:55,580 --> 00:52:55,940
Okay.

650
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:56,600
It

651
00:53:00,190 --> 00:53:00,910
makes sense now.

652
00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:01,490
Thank you.

653
00:53:01,650 --> 00:53:01,770
Yeah.

654
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,980
I don't know if that's an RCW or if that's a, a Robert's rules.

655
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,460
Robert's rules.

656
00:53:09,460 --> 00:53:10,540
I don't know if that is.

657
00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:13,700
It's a common sense rule.

658
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:23,020
It does make sense, but I'm sure it's been, I don't know that I've seen more than, more

659
00:53:23,020 --> 00:53:23,980
than one abstention.

660
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:26,240
But okay, yeah, that makes sense.

661
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:32,600
I just like I said, I couldn't think of how that would make sense, but how you put it,

662
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:34,940
I get it under

663
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:43,640
when we start getting into section 5.5, I think that could probably be

664
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:51,720
trimmed up by just referencing RCW 4223 and 4236 versus restating the RCW because those

665
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:52,440
are amended.

666
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,080
on that, too, while we're here on 5.5C,

667
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:02,280
so as the city attorney reviews the council

668
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:08,500
agenda, and it says flags any potential conflicts.

669
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,200
I think, primarily, that should be you guys flagging

670
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,760
your own conflicts. I mean, by the state law, it is your

671
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,060
responsibility. By seeing something,

672
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:48,780
All certainly this is just conflicts of interest on action items and stuff. Okay.

673
00:54:48,780 --> 00:54:53,220
But if there's something obvious, I know you work for a certain company and I see it coming

674
00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:56,500
on the agenda, yeah, that's going to raise a flag for me that I would bring up.

675
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,880
Just back to that one too, I think it's interesting that if you're recruising yourself then you

676
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,540
probably need to leave the room and it needs to be done ahead of time.

677
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:16,160
I think that is, we haven't really done it that way, so I think that's just a note that

678
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,900
if we're going to keep that in, we need to operate in that way as well.

679
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:20,760
That

680
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,400
has to your point that has happened in some of the hearings.

681
00:55:27,820 --> 00:55:31,680
Yeah, I'm thinking about Black Hawk Ridge, I think it was.

682
00:55:32,180 --> 00:55:36,560
So that I heard back on.

683
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:36,800
Yes.

684
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,180
Under page 11 now, 106, 6.1.

685
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:45,660
I guess very similar to tonight.

686
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,140
I think a council member can bring a resolution forward.

687
00:55:49,140 --> 00:56:02,720
I think it's highly recommended that the resolution is vetted through a subcommittee, but I do think as the mayor has the opportunity to bring a resolution forward, I think council members should also.

688
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,980
And are you saying instead of a majority of four?

689
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:23,980
Okay so instead of needing a majority of four you would like it just to be any council member can bring it forward right with with the preface that it should be routed you know obviously there's it depends and there's certain circumstances but I think any council member can bring before us

690
00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:28,300
I think it's a professional courtesy to run it through a subcommittee.

691
00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:30,720
However, that's captured.

692
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:31,580
Okay.

693
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:33,580
Near

694
00:56:36,660 --> 00:56:39,820
6.4 sponsorship.

695
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,660
I don't know. I think we're all up here for the city.

696
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:48,920
I didn't really. That one didn't do anything for me.

697
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,720
Sponsoring a bill.

698
00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:55,580
I think a lot of the resolutions or ordinances that come forward.

699
00:56:55,580 --> 00:57:00,060
they come out of the subcommittee. It's not generally an individual. And if we start

700
00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:03,820
getting to the point of, well, I want a sponsor bill. We use sign this. We use sign this

701
00:57:03,820 --> 00:57:09,060
that pretty soon. Yeah, four people sign it. Now, where are we at? Our favorite serial

702
00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:14,400
meeting, right? So, anyways, I would probably lean towards scratching that.

703
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Jumping ahead

704
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:32,180
with giving people priority. I think if somebody comes to council, they sign up, we should probably

705
00:57:32,180 --> 00:57:36,740
listen to them on sign-up sheet. I don't think we should stack the deck and say, well,

706
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:42,100
Shelley, you live in the city and like you live in the county. Would you like to go first or second?

707
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:48,160
I just don't think we should give preferential treatment. If you're coming to council to give comment,

708
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:55,220
there's an order to it, and we shouldn't stack in my opinion. And then the preferred name,

709
00:57:55,220 --> 00:57:56,820
I've always heard of the legal name.

710
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,800
I mean, everybody who gave testimony today was,

711
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,980
this is my name and I live in Jeanne.

712
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:04,560
I'm just on a comment with that.

713
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,900
If you're giving testimony via Zoom,

714
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,480
we've had people in the past that have used fake names

715
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,120
and fake addresses to place themselves here within Jeanne,

716
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,160
and then to be disruptive for our meetings.

717
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,860
But I am with you on, there's some real gray area

718
00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:23,140
with when we can limit or prioritize.

719
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:30,080
But as far as names go, I don't think that's really as big of a deal because people are going to tell you whatever they want.

720
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Yeah, and I think we've heard tonight somebody just said, hey, I live on the street. I think that's perfectly fine.

721
00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:40,760
Or if there's a really concerned about, I don't want Jack to know what city I live in, I live in Spokane County.

722
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,940
I mean, I think we would be pretty open to that.

723
00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:49,880
I don't, I don't know that we've ever forced somebody to say, I want your exact address in a parking building, you know, whatever.

724
00:58:49,880 --> 00:59:02,500
So, anyways, the entire section 8, I guess I want to, I guess, clarify so that I did plan that there was a lot of stuff on planning commission.

725
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:10,080
And I've, you know, I've sat on planning commission for six years prior to council, I was chair, and I've been serving as the liaison profile.

726
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:16,420
There was a lot of discussion to hear that kind of just raised my eyebrow, but from my

727
00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:21,800
take on things, planning commission is a advisory commission, their advisory to council.

728
00:59:22,380 --> 00:59:27,440
I've seen multiple instances when I've been on planning commission and also on council

729
00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:34,480
where council is the final, they take the recommendation and then they make their action.

730
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,480
They're not always proving it the entire same way.

731
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:41,040
Sometimes they approve it and they modify it.

732
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,400
Sometimes a recommendation comes to us and it turns into a developer's agreement.

733
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:52,840
So there are many different avenues that a planning commission recommendation can yield

734
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,420
that that's not caught here.

735
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:59,900
And I guess what I'm getting at is I just

736
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,200
I think that the nature of these procedures, my idea was focused on what we do in here, in this room, at these meetings. Not necessarily every subcommittee, how we accept those things, what we do with those things. And then the other point to note is, if there are procedural, if there's, if it's running through SEPA, there are SEPA by statute, by WACC, how much time we have, that's not captured. For the venues decisions.

737
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,820
One of the most important things, in my opinion, that the Planning Commission does is their

738
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:37,400
quasad judicial, they post the hearing.

739
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:41,100
That is invaluable to us when they do that.

740
01:00:42,460 --> 01:00:49,160
To say that we can't have a council member present is odd to me at that hearing.

741
01:00:49,160 --> 01:01:01,720
So, again, I think 8.8, I don't know, lot in some of these other ones, but in my opinion I would probably strike.

742
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:09,740
I would make the emphasis of these rules, again, what we didn't adhere, not what we take from any subcommittee.

743
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:10,960
That makes sense.

744
01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:12,940
So you would strike all of eight?

745
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:14,480
I would strike all of eight.

746
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:21,580
Again, I think we can neck down a lot of these rules to, again, what we focus on here as council.

747
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:28,800
You turn the lever. Why is it squeal me?

748
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,620
I don't know. I'm sorry.

749
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:36,880
There's only to adjust my micr.

750
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,720
It's not just you. It's the whole time. I don't know.

751
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,180
It's everyone.

752
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,800
We talked a little bit about, on page 1920, the priority of people, their speaker priority.

753
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:51,220
Again, I would shy away from that.

754
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,980
One thing that I thought was a little odd is that we limit the total number.

755
01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:03,700
I can tell you, I mean, I think maybe Marco's doing was here also during COVID.

756
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:07,680
There were times that I guarantee you there were more than 30 minutes taken on.

757
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:16,580
And so I think again, if somebody's going to take the time to come to our council meeting to speak for whatever the two or three minutes, it should be up.

758
01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:22,540
And it fits two hours. Then that's what we all signed up for. It should be two miles.

759
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,260
So I wouldn't put any caps on.

760
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:31,220
I think there's two spots where there's some caps for the laps. Yeah, the 20 minute. Yeah. Yeah.

761
01:02:31,220 --> 01:02:34,560
under 9.3, the 30-minute cab, and there was a 20-minute cab under 9.5.

762
01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:38,180
So I'm going to interrupt this for a second please.

763
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,060
So we also changed it to three minutes instead of two minutes.

764
01:02:41,180 --> 01:02:44,520
I think in most cases, so I thought that was a big decision too.

765
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,460
I did like that three minutes.

766
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,460
I'm a pretty comfortable public speaker and two minutes is hard.

767
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:58,900
So once if you're not a comfortable public speaker by the time you get to a minute and a half,

768
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:04,060
you finally feel comfortable enough to say what you want to say and now you're done. So I like

769
01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:11,860
three minutes. I agree. I think three minutes is good. I will try to wrap up very quickly. Number 10,

770
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:18,920
page 22, filling counsel vacancies. Last precedent, it's always been the mayor's decision. I would lean

771
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:25,940
towards making it the mayor's decision about the issue. Generally, the mayor finds the most

772
01:03:25,940 --> 01:03:32,000
appropriate applicant generally interviews several and then brings before us through that confirmation.

773
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:38,100
That's how it's always worked in the past and there's there's other reasons that maybe aren't

774
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:44,360
stated here why there's a vacancy right somebody takes a job in with the city sickness whatever there's

775
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:52,080
other reasons that are stated here so my preference would be to be passed precedent and leave it with

776
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:58,260
the mayor's decision on confirmation number 11 I know there's been some

777
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:02,220
discussion of get that our agenda's out earlier earlier I know a lot of

778
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:06,860
that probably plans on your shoulders I've always thought Friday has been a

779
01:04:06,860 --> 01:04:11,040
decent deadline if we want to move it up to Thursday obviously we're we're

780
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,160
probably looking at you for it by so I'm not one.

781
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:16,250
Is that the current?

782
01:04:22,590 --> 01:04:23,070
I'm

783
01:04:23,070 --> 01:04:31,730
by the clock. Excuse me. I did not know that was the standard for a year. So I never mind. I'll

784
01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:32,610
scratch that comment.

785
01:04:37,950 --> 01:04:46,350
Getting into council subcommittees or council committees. I tend to agree with

786
01:04:46,350 --> 01:04:53,150
Mark shuffling people every year. I think there's efficiencies in keeping people in where their

787
01:04:53,150 --> 01:05:02,450
strengths are. It's always been the chair who sets the meeting schedule. It's been like that,

788
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:12,370
I think, for decades now. And some of the responsibilities, I think, that are in here,

789
01:05:13,610 --> 01:05:20,050
well, specifically in finance to defer responsive cut responsibilities from finance,

790
01:05:20,050 --> 01:05:24,950
outside I think I'm a fan with I think if it needs to go to my hands it should go to my ask

791
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:28,190
committee. Same comment on parks.

792
01:05:33,940 --> 01:05:37,280
That's it. Thank you.

793
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:46,380
I just want to make a question really quick is the portion of 10 to the filling of vacancy?

794
01:05:47,060 --> 01:05:53,920
Is that the language in the RCW or do we have different in our code currently?

795
01:05:53,920 --> 01:06:12,720
I double check that today the RCW does say the non-photos and non-photos and it's 42-12-7-0, which is what we call over a 12-0 bike power.

796
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:19,500
It looks like it's number one on the RCW.

797
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:23,860
And it says it will be filled by five accounts.

798
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,400
So I don't know what the past, but I've never been here.

799
01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:32,920
And I don't know if any error kind of nominated somebody here.

800
01:06:33,140 --> 01:06:33,900
I don't know.

801
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,780
But typically you need to have any money.

802
01:06:39,980 --> 01:06:41,980
I'd say there are one position.

803
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:47,160
Staying in the remaining members of heaven by each and what my person.

804
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,740
And again, and I may be miss interpreting this.

805
01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:57,200
but I'm saying council still points does that confirmation of point but

806
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,040
generally as precedent has been the mayor has found that in which

807
01:07:03,060 --> 01:07:04,320
but is that

808
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,880
a requirement that the mayor finds the individual to put up and then we like

809
01:07:10,460 --> 01:07:14,440
bet the nominee like is or is that just how it's been done previously?

810
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:19,660
I think for I think it's for a couple of reasons one would be how would we all we'd be in that

811
01:07:19,660 --> 01:07:24,540
serial meeting scenario again right if we're going to interview three candidates for

812
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:29,180
a council they could see. Now we have three people, three people, three, you know what I mean?

813
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:35,320
It I think it'd be much easier for the mayor to decipher through the candidates and then come

814
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:41,580
before us for confirmation appointment. Is there an application process that like let's say

815
01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:45,600
somebody gets a job somewhere else and we have a seat vacated because I haven't been present for

816
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:51,000
this happening either. So I'm trying to wrap my head around how this would work. Could it not be then

817
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,980
somebody on the council's like hey I think this person in our community would be a good fit for

818
01:07:55,980 --> 01:08:00,280
this here mayor can you vet this person like or is there an application process and it's like no

819
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:05,280
we directly do the application so because I didn't fill out an application. Did you get a point

820
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:11,960
it? No I'm saying to run like you you you applied a run but there's no actual like application we're

821
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:17,020
not vetted we're just put on the ballot. That's the most qualified person. Yeah so I guess Doug

822
01:08:17,020 --> 01:08:23,200
Nick singles a past council member here. I think the reason he moved on is he moved to Arizona

823
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:30,960
wherever he ended up moving. There was an allocation process cover letter resume and the selection

824
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840
process was vetted by the mayor.

825
01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:41,540
So you do have I'm sorry you do have an application on the city

826
01:08:41,540 --> 01:08:46,680
website for city commission position. Yeah we're talking about council, we're not talking about

827
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,980
commissions. I'm sorry, city council. Yeah, city council. Yeah.

828
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:59,440
All right. And we have as a body helped with interviewing, like you've had

829
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:03,620
finalists for the city administrator role. And we got to help participate in

830
01:09:03,620 --> 01:09:10,270
that. And we didn't violate any part of that where, right? But we were still

831
01:09:10,270 --> 01:09:15,030
able to engage and give you feedback for the final, the finalist that we got

832
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:15,790
to help confirm.

833
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:20,450
I don't know if this would be that much different.

834
01:09:20,810 --> 01:09:25,110
Yeah, that's an RCW interpretation question.

835
01:09:25,310 --> 01:09:27,050
It'll probably need to get back to you on that.

836
01:09:28,330 --> 01:09:33,030
Yeah, I mean, I think that there's, there's a lot of work still that you could have.

837
01:09:33,190 --> 01:09:38,150
I think it's how, how you get to the point, the appointment being made,

838
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:43,490
but it's ultimately the appointment that has to be made by Nazi.

839
01:09:44,790 --> 01:09:48,690
But whether the mayor has a role in that process, how do you get there?

840
01:09:49,230 --> 01:09:53,350
I would imagine the mayor has to leave mine, but she's not being good fit.

841
01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:55,330
She probably said some line.

842
01:09:57,370 --> 01:09:58,770
Just nobody leave, okay?

843
01:10:00,550 --> 01:10:06,290
You know, if we're I guess if we're concerned as the council about the vetting process,

844
01:10:06,290 --> 01:10:10,130
we could open it up for two weeks, like sometimes you post a job, right?

845
01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:17,770
it's posted for two weeks. But I guess from my perspective, I think it would be easier for the

846
01:10:17,770 --> 01:10:23,990
mayor to bet those individuals. Maybe she's been in with a few staff as well. And then the

847
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:30,250
point. My concern is historically council and not those of us sitting here necessarily, but

848
01:10:30,250 --> 01:10:37,890
historically council has often relinquished some of their own power over certain things

849
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:40,830
for the sake of ease and expediency.

850
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:42,870
And I want to make sure it's not what we're doing here either,

851
01:10:43,310 --> 01:10:46,130
is that we're not removing any sort of agency

852
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:48,170
that council may have in some of these proceedings

853
01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:50,210
because it's easier that way.

854
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:55,170
That's a fair comment, but sometimes we,

855
01:10:55,450 --> 01:10:56,910
if we were feeling a vacancy,

856
01:10:57,290 --> 01:11:00,250
we'd also want to wait three months to fill the vacancy.

857
01:11:00,610 --> 01:11:02,110
I just want to make sure that we're not limiting it

858
01:11:02,110 --> 01:11:05,170
to who's allowed to, or like who can necessarily nominate.

859
01:11:05,670 --> 01:11:07,230
If, according to RCW,

860
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:09,170
the government body has that ability as well.

861
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:13,270
Yeah, I don't know why we couldn't nominate people too.

862
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:16,310
And there is a time window.

863
01:11:16,450 --> 01:11:18,430
In the RCW, we have the vacancy.

864
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:19,970
It has to be built in 90 days.

865
01:11:20,130 --> 01:11:23,650
Otherwise, it gets kicked up to the county commission to fill it on our behalf.

866
01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:26,710
My only point is that there was a vacancy.

867
01:11:26,890 --> 01:11:28,910
I would hope that we could fill that vacancy in 30 days.

868
01:11:29,070 --> 01:11:29,810
Oh, for sure.

869
01:11:30,110 --> 01:11:30,430
That's fine.

870
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Any other comments?

871
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,820
I have one. I'll go quick.

872
01:11:37,820 --> 01:11:42,860
The 12.3 talks about the chair of subcommittees.

873
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:52,100
I think if you asked all seven of us up here, you get seven different definitions of what the roles and responsibilities are of a subcommittee chair.

874
01:11:52,840 --> 01:12:02,220
I think it would be wise for us to pass that out, maybe not right now, but figure out what, I don't know, is that person just the point of contact?

875
01:12:02,220 --> 01:12:10,320
what powers does that person have over the other two in that committee? I think that's pretty important for us to figure out.

876
01:12:14,340 --> 01:12:21,320
Well, I think it kind of depends on what subcommittee you're into. I mean, generally speaking, the chair of the finance committee is going to sit in the office.

877
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,620
I mean, that's a role that's specific to that chair for that subcommittee.

878
01:12:27,620 --> 01:12:37,220
Yeah, I guess I was thinking more of like what what all four committees have in common like things from all four committees make it to our agenda.

879
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:46,980
Can a chair pull something from the agenda? Probably not, right? So those sorts of things. I'm not talking about edge cases where it just applies to one.

880
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:53,960
Again, from my perspective, the chair generally schedules the meeting, calls the meeting.

881
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:03,560
If, but sorry, but that's what I'm saying that that's your opinion and I think all seven of us have different opinions on what the chair should be.

882
01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:05,860
So that's been your experience.

883
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:11,320
So what's what's your opinion on what the chair should do? I'm just one of seven as well. I want to hear from the other five.

884
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,980
What I'm asking you, what do you think?

885
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:18,940
Just list all the roles in response, but I don't have that prepared for you. I'm saying this is all seven.

886
01:13:18,940 --> 01:13:20,900
Jack, what do you think the chair?

887
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:24,040
Well, I'm not necessarily going to weigh on what the chair should do because I haven't

888
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,560
been a chair.

889
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,420
And I feel like what you've outlined is, I mean, it's pretty simple control of the agenda

890
01:13:29,420 --> 01:13:34,920
calling the meeting general logistics and stuff, but I do think it is a good point to have

891
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:40,220
those commonalities laid out so that we know who's, like, this is the role of the chair.

892
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:43,280
So if you have the mood that's filling in, they know what's expected of them as well.

893
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:47,240
It just helps with a little continuity between chairs and when we have new rotating chairs,

894
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:54,020
There's that hand off, but I feel like this whole conversation and a lot of these changes

895
01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:59,140
that we're asking for, this would be better handled in a workshop format.

896
01:13:59,380 --> 01:14:04,560
I feel like our meeting this evening has kind of just taken on its own head of just really

897
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,740
focused on this and we've been a lot of time on this, whereas a actual workshop format

898
01:14:09,740 --> 01:14:15,180
I think would be a better use of our time with discussing these, and that's my two-sense.

899
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:17,000
Second.

900
01:14:17,620 --> 01:14:22,480
It turns with that. This is an action item, so I don't think we're going to vote, but I'll just say

901
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:28,900
that has been heard, and we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is

902
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:36,180
Resolution 26-064, which is an action item. Chief Yura,

903
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:44,200
everybody a little stretch. Oh thanks for sending me out that yeah I'm back

904
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:49,140
again to bring this resolution forward. This has been duoleagle. I'm on the

905
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:54,240
question that you guys approve this resolution and with the requirement that

906
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,100
we do send that email to Axon to opt out of that debt sharing portion of the

907
01:14:58,100 --> 01:14:59,580
contract, so

908
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,840
Any questions? I may be able to answer that if not. Um, yeah, so I, I saw the, it says an updated contract is on the packet, but I don't see the actual email. So I don't know if Mike, you had a chance to draft. Thanks. I know that was what we voted on to see before we voted tonight.

909
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:30,960
Yeah, I sent me a review and it's it's a simple just

910
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:31,840
Yep.

911
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,600
It'll be.

912
01:15:41,230 --> 01:15:43,290
Is that mean it's it's drafted.

913
01:15:45,620 --> 01:15:47,880
Not until it's approved. Well, we sent.

914
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:50,420
We won't send that email until we sign the contract.

915
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,200
But when the contract is accepted.

916
01:15:54,140 --> 01:15:56,360
I would recommend that's.

917
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:08,540
If you want to improve this, I would be recommend that you move, ask this and do a contingent

918
01:16:08,540 --> 01:16:10,000
of on the email being sent.

919
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,380
Can we see the email, though, I guess?

920
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:21,680
Or can I just ask a quick kind of on the same, I mean, the same line of the email in the

921
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,900
actual verbiage on axon's website.

922
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:27,120
It tells you exactly what to say in the email.

923
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,380
It says exactly who to send it to and it says,

924
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:31,660
all you have to say is we revoke our consent.

925
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,780
It's that simple and it just has to come from the city

926
01:16:34,780 --> 01:16:36,460
at the time that we're doing the contract.

927
01:16:36,740 --> 01:16:42,060
So I'm not sure we necessarily need to see it drafted

928
01:16:42,060 --> 01:16:43,500
right this second to head,

929
01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:46,260
but we need to know that that's contingent

930
01:16:46,260 --> 01:16:47,400
upon passage of this.

931
01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:49,920
I gave this email.

932
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:51,540
I'm looking at the emails.

933
01:16:59,980 --> 01:17:00,580
So

934
01:17:03,580 --> 01:17:06,620
you send it to council member Bialock.

935
01:17:06,980 --> 01:17:14,640
And you know, yes, we log in and she votes just saying, but how we just simply send another email.

936
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:23,380
Okay, so if we pass this tonight with that contingency, how do we verify that that happened?

937
01:17:23,380 --> 01:17:24,760
Oh, yes.

938
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,980
We'll give you a copy of the email.

939
01:17:27,260 --> 01:17:29,200
So a BCC council kind of thing?

940
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,660
Well, probably what we'll do is we'll send it.

941
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:33,840
And then we'll give you a copy.

942
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:38,660
We'll just make a copy and send you the PDF or whatever,

943
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,180
rather than do a BCC.

944
01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:41,020
Okay.

945
01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:43,640
And I ask a question.

946
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,200
Then if you're just going to give us a PDF,

947
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:47,380
how do we verify that it was actually sent?

948
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,560
If we are not like because I can send a PDF and tell somebody

949
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,920
that it was sent in a different email.

950
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,220
I'm just wondering how do we confirm that?

951
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,280
Can I ask the question?

952
01:17:57,460 --> 01:18:00,120
Why aren't we verifying the tasks of the city staff?

953
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:07,340
But we will be sure that you are notified in whatever capacity it needs to happen.

954
01:18:07,340 --> 01:18:15,860
Whether that's appropriately documented through city council or whether we can just copy you on an email.

955
01:18:15,860 --> 01:18:25,080
that just like we copy people on a resolution, so that's contingent, if that's a contingency,

956
01:18:25,540 --> 01:18:29,780
it will happen. That's generally how it always happens.

957
01:18:29,980 --> 01:18:30,720
Yeah, certainly.

958
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,100
Any other questions?

959
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Just maybe a comment. Chief, could you explain to us the importance of axon and the things

960
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:54,080
we had one person recommend that we not have, so could you explain to us why this is so

961
01:18:54,080 --> 01:19:01,120
important for all the cows. Yes. So axon is basically the vendor for all of our body cameras,

962
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:08,580
our digital events.com and tasers. So it's a five-year, 60-month contract and they update these

963
01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:14,220
things regularly through the contract and they'll cost a no additional cost to us. If we have a

964
01:19:14,220 --> 01:19:18,600
body cam or that break, so it gets submerged in water or whatever, we have a new one within 24

965
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:25,440
hours. All the taser upgrades are included in those things, which typically we would have to pay

966
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:31,520
for out a pocket to include up to five taser instructors that they include in this. They give us

967
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:37,640
the breacheriality training kits with all this package and so forth. So there's quite a lot that comes

968
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:44,480
with this. It is very important that we continue to run body cameras for a number of reasons.

969
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:49,140
Why do you believe body camera footage is important for each of our officers?

970
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,880
Oh my gosh, I didn't come prepared for that lengthy answer.

971
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,540
We review body camera on a regular basis to ensure quality control for everything we do

972
01:19:59,540 --> 01:20:04,460
even though I'm not or we're not on scene for public disclosure requests.

973
01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:07,300
It gives a transparency for people to see what we do.

974
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:11,660
We are advocates for body cameras. We like having them.

975
01:20:11,660 --> 01:20:19,980
It definitely shows the transparency between us and the citizens and everything that we do throughout the our work shifts.

976
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:22,780
Any other questions?

977
01:20:24,540 --> 01:20:24,980
Thank you.

978
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,320
Thank you.

979
01:20:26,620 --> 01:20:27,120
Is there a question?

980
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,020
There are no other questions.

981
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:38,640
I'd make a motion to approve resolution F512 with the contingency.

982
01:20:39,420 --> 01:20:45,200
and to opt out of the ACERG. Second.

983
01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:53,720
There's a motion and a second for approval of resolution F512 with the contingency to opt out of data sharing.

984
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,840
That was in favor. I have to.

985
01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:06,980
Those opposed? Or of singing? All right. Resolution F512 passes. Moving on to resolution F513.

986
01:21:06,980 --> 01:21:09,000
three. Director Ferguson.

987
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:16,490
Good evening. Resolution 513 is for a sales

988
01:21:16,490 --> 01:21:20,770
agreement with Smith and Loveless or purchase a by replacement Pistachritt

989
01:21:20,770 --> 01:21:26,090
screw conveyor. This is an item that was originally installed in 1994 with the

990
01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:30,990
original waste bar treatment plant construction. So it's 26 years old. It lives in a

991
01:21:30,990 --> 01:21:36,890
very corrosive environment and is well exceeded its lifespan. So we're looking

992
01:21:36,890 --> 01:21:39,770
and to upgrade the out of this budgeted item for 2026.

993
01:21:41,370 --> 01:21:44,370
And so we're asking for approval for the mayor

994
01:21:44,370 --> 01:21:45,490
to sign the sales agreement.

995
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:48,590
And then the sales of that part of the purchase

996
01:21:48,590 --> 01:21:50,250
of that product still have any questions?

997
01:21:50,270 --> 01:21:52,150
I'd be glad to answer them.

998
01:21:52,190 --> 01:21:54,550
Yeah, I had a quick question.

999
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:55,090
Yeah.

1000
01:21:55,670 --> 01:21:58,330
In the documents, it looked like there were quotes

1001
01:21:58,330 --> 01:22:00,570
for two different prices, for two different.

1002
01:22:00,970 --> 01:22:01,250
There were.

1003
01:22:01,850 --> 01:22:01,970
Yeah.

1004
01:22:02,230 --> 01:22:03,210
What's the difference in those?

1005
01:22:03,290 --> 01:22:05,330
Because it's like a $30,000 price difference.

1006
01:22:05,330 --> 01:22:09,490
lower prices for a ferrous metal, which is consistent with what we have, it's, you know,

1007
01:22:09,670 --> 01:22:14,090
corrosive in the environment we have, the other one is stainless steel. We've done a

1008
01:22:14,090 --> 01:22:18,650
really good job and tried very hard to upgrade. Most of our equipment is stainless steel over

1009
01:22:18,650 --> 01:22:24,350
the years with anticipation that we'll get probably a 30 or 40% lifespan increase or a

1010
01:22:24,350 --> 01:22:29,710
little bit of additional costs. So, dollar wise, it would pan out to be probably a 50-year

1011
01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:34,350
item. If we did a 40-year item at least, if we did this versus another 20-year, it should

1012
01:22:34,350 --> 01:22:38,210
been about 20-year replacement we've had to push it down the room so we get at least double

1013
01:22:38,210 --> 01:22:39,330
live out of it I anticipate.

1014
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,880
Any other questions? Great question. Your honor. We discussed this at

1015
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:52,220
Public Works also discussed that the San Seal option I would make a motion for approval of F-513.

1016
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,620
Second. Motion in a second to approve resolution F-513, those in favor.

1017
01:23:00,420 --> 01:23:11,720
No abstinence. So resolution F513 passes. Director Rouse. For resolution F515, a lodging tax

1018
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:24,480
disbursement for EWU homecoming and CMA. Yes, thank you. Resolution 515, the lodging tax

1019
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:34,140
committee had met to review two proposals that came our way. One was with Crave TV for $10,000.

1020
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:43,000
The committee is recommending that we do not fund that do not fund Crave TV.

1021
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:51,960
And the other one is for CMA for EWU Homecoming Street Dance. It's $8,000. This is

1022
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:58,240
we have done in the past and the lodging tax committee has recommended that we fully fund that.

1023
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,260
Is there any questions,

1024
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,920
comments? I mean, I'm on lodging tax committee. I'm in a scene from the

1025
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:16,020
vote, because I'm also in CMA, but part of the we're working with EWU for the homecoming dance,

1026
01:24:16,420 --> 01:24:20,280
and so part of that is taking on the cost of the street closure this year, so that's why it's a little

1027
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,960
sense of that it's been and are concerned with the Crave TV as we just didn't really have a lot

1028
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:33,900
of information to really verify how it was going to benefit the city and what you know I guess a

1029
01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:40,120
real accurate data on how that would work. So that's why we recommended not approving that one.

1030
01:24:44,030 --> 01:24:50,710
What's Crave TV? It was an application for a marketing proposal to

1031
01:24:52,370 --> 01:25:01,270
highlight cheney through it was advertising yeah so it was they have a show

1032
01:25:01,270 --> 01:25:06,870
kind of like to feature the city and so they would I think one of the

1033
01:25:08,210 --> 01:25:12,690
celebrities for that show is like a celebrity chef in the area that would come

1034
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:18,510
to the town and pick out three different places to highlight in on their show

1035
01:25:18,510 --> 01:25:24,750
and they were making claims that they could drive more people into the city of

1036
01:25:24,750 --> 01:25:31,190
Cheney. But when we reviewed the math and how they came up with that a lot of it

1037
01:25:31,190 --> 01:25:37,130
just didn't make sense. It was they were claiming to bring 30,000 people into

1038
01:25:37,130 --> 01:25:42,530
the city of Cheney by doing this type of show. So yeah.

1039
01:25:42,530 --> 01:25:45,830
Yeah. Thank you.

1040
01:25:46,670 --> 01:25:47,590
It's their motion.

1041
01:25:49,450 --> 01:25:51,530
So yeah, okay, go ahead.

1042
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:52,110
Second.

1043
01:25:52,710 --> 01:25:55,010
There's a motion and a second to approve resolution.

1044
01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:56,930
F515.

1045
01:25:58,590 --> 01:25:59,810
Those in favor.

1046
01:26:00,390 --> 01:26:00,530
Bye.

1047
01:26:01,450 --> 01:26:03,730
And post obscene.

1048
01:26:05,930 --> 01:26:06,130
Right.

1049
01:26:06,650 --> 01:26:10,330
That brings us to amended item.

1050
01:26:10,330 --> 01:26:16,370
I'm 26-07-0, which is resolution F-5-1-7.

1051
01:26:17,110 --> 01:26:18,010
Director Schultz.

1052
01:26:18,290 --> 01:26:18,650
Madam

1053
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,360
Mayor, Council.

1054
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,500
Appreciate the short notice on this amendment.

1055
01:26:26,460 --> 01:26:28,840
A little back story on how we got to this point.

1056
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:41,200
So in 2019, the city signed an agreement with Petera for dark fiber lease and server room lease so that they could provide telecommunication to our citizens.

1057
01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:44,180
Since then, Zipley has taken over Petera.

1058
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,220
Through that, there have been four amendments to the lease,

1059
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,560
to either extend the contract by a few months.

1060
01:26:51,820 --> 01:26:53,560
I think the longest was to extend it a year.

1061
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:55,320
All those have expired.

1062
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,360
The last one expired on August 31st.

1063
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,040
Zipley was hoping to get out of the server room.

1064
01:27:01,140 --> 01:27:03,220
Completely, they do have a separate building in town.

1065
01:27:03,220 --> 01:27:04,240
They're going to move to.

1066
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,500
So the decision was made to extend then a new three-month lease,

1067
01:27:09,500 --> 01:27:20,320
though an amendment to the lease, we increase the rate to cover the costs of that lease and by the end they say that they'll be out in their new facility.

1068
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,300
So we're willing to extend that.

1069
01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:27,380
So our recommendation is that we approve the lease through that three months.

1070
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:34,200
There is a clause that with the help of Mike, we put in there that if they fail to do that, that they'll sign up for another year.

1071
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:35,540
to auto-renew.

1072
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,660
Auto-renew for you.

1073
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:39,510
Any questions?

1074
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:40,550
Any questions?

1075
01:27:40,650 --> 01:27:40,770
Yeah.

1076
01:27:41,370 --> 01:27:44,210
If the auto-renew, not that this will happen,

1077
01:27:45,870 --> 01:27:48,310
But if it did, will we raise the rate again

1078
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:50,050
to add encouragement for them?

1079
01:27:50,450 --> 01:27:50,990
I think so.

1080
01:27:51,330 --> 01:27:53,890
At that time, we'll probably negotiate at that time.

1081
01:27:54,150 --> 01:27:56,470
I highly doubt that they were the pretty motivated

1082
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:56,930
to get out.

1083
01:27:57,190 --> 01:27:59,130
They have their new building, they have their fiber.

1084
01:27:59,490 --> 01:28:03,790
That is just a matter of construction at this point.

1085
01:28:03,790 --> 01:28:13,470
So and we are negotiating with them for the that'll be on the next council agenda is the the franchise ordinance the second third reading

1086
01:28:16,030 --> 01:28:24,890
any other questions comments there are no other questions I want to commend Steve on getting them to sign this agreement collecting some back

1087
01:28:24,890 --> 01:28:33,070
piece and getting a really good rate for so I would make a motion to approve F 517.

1088
01:28:33,890 --> 01:28:38,930
Okay, there's a motion and a second to approve resolution F517, those in favor?

1089
01:28:39,490 --> 01:28:39,850
All right.

1090
01:28:40,150 --> 01:28:41,650
Any votes for abstaining?

1091
01:28:42,170 --> 01:28:42,510
Okay.

1092
01:28:43,790 --> 01:28:44,630
Thank you.

1093
01:28:45,690 --> 01:28:51,650
Now we will move to item 26071, which is resolution F.

1094
01:28:52,150 --> 01:28:54,490
You have a small resolution.

1095
01:28:56,090 --> 01:28:57,430
Oh, you did.

1096
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:57,750
Yes.

1097
01:28:58,170 --> 01:28:58,430
That's okay.

1098
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:59,850
That's right.

1099
01:29:01,970 --> 01:29:04,450
resolution F518 is that the one you're talking about?

1100
01:29:04,830 --> 01:29:05,130
Okay.

1101
01:29:06,010 --> 01:29:10,030
Resolution F518, which is directly roughs.

1102
01:29:12,350 --> 01:29:20,390
So resolution F518 is to get city-issued cell phones for the council members.

1103
01:29:21,050 --> 01:29:28,690
This will help with a lot of public records requests that maybe a personal devices might be at risk.

1104
01:29:28,690 --> 01:29:33,870
if you're looking up your work emails or our city emails on your personal devices.

1105
01:29:34,710 --> 01:29:39,730
So to solve that, we felt it was probably best to get you city-issued cell phones.

1106
01:29:40,710 --> 01:29:44,810
It roughly will cost around $30, $40 a month for those city-issued phones.

1107
01:29:45,970 --> 01:29:46,910
Any questions?

1108
01:29:49,630 --> 01:29:50,670
Is there a requirement?

1109
01:29:51,550 --> 01:29:52,410
Thank you.

1110
01:29:52,410 --> 01:29:52,770
question.

1111
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:59,870
It is a better trust. Yeah, it really is. Is it a requirement team?

1112
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:22,300
Have one. Yes. And use it. I don't think so. You're the council. Wow. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say it is. I just make sure that you're using your city issued computer when checking emails and not a personal device or forwarding emails to your personal device. I just want to make sure that you are all protected when it comes to public records requests.

1113
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:30,500
So the resolution passed. There's still the option for us to opt in or opt out. Yes.

1114
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:30,720
Yes.

1115
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:31,320
If

1116
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:34,260
I may.

1117
01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:34,900
Any other questions?

1118
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:35,060
Yeah.

1119
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,360
I'd love to hear some pros and cons.

1120
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,480
Well, I was just going to say, I think there is some value and some consistency.

1121
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,860
And again, I'm kind of looking at Shelley who manages these public records request.

1122
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:52,420
If we were all on the same device, knowing that it's real time, much like probably our most

1123
01:30:52,420 --> 01:30:59,440
of our work emails and phones and texts, it just, it will bring some continuity to what she

1124
01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:06,760
asked to do on a daily basis. And I think that's that's invaluable. And it protects us all.

1125
01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:13,160
Much like I believe the mayor has a as a city and a lot of the department has as well. I would

1126
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:19,280
presume that's all. That's the pros. Now you could you could say I don't want to

1127
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,220
lug around too because I mean you have to have them in your pocket all the time but

1128
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:29,320
I mean, I will say that from my perspective, we talked a little bit about this in finance

1129
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:29,580
committee.

1130
01:31:30,820 --> 01:31:35,300
I can't say I check my emails three times a day on our online app talk.

1131
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:41,860
It's part of us in three point on a phone, I think it gives us much better accessibility.

1132
01:31:42,660 --> 01:31:48,940
Now, whether that phone sits at your house or whatever, it's still much easier to communicate

1133
01:31:48,940 --> 01:31:51,640
from the phone then look at one of these.

1134
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,600
And again, from public records perspective,

1135
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,020
I think it makes Shelley's job a lot easier

1136
01:31:59,020 --> 01:32:03,020
to be able to have our emails, texts, phone calls,

1137
01:32:03,020 --> 01:32:06,120
whatever all consolidated on one device.

1138
01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:09,040
So I'm in favor of.

1139
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:10,860
Do you have this?

1140
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,600
Is this resolution drafted for review in this meeting?

1141
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,360
It is not, it will be drafted after the screening.

1142
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:29,890
So in that resolution is the option to select a phone or opt out?

1143
01:32:31,470 --> 01:32:33,630
It's not a requirement that everyone has a phone.

1144
01:32:33,870 --> 01:32:37,850
Is that what I'm hearing from the council?

1145
01:32:38,570 --> 01:32:44,130
If there's folks that want to opt out, I will word the resolution differently so they have

1146
01:32:44,130 --> 01:32:51,210
that opportunity, I'm just saying, as a board, if we were more consistent, it would make

1147
01:32:51,210 --> 01:32:58,390
everybody mostly staff's lives easier. I don't want to necessarily speak for Shelley, but

1148
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:06,870
if we could easily make a motion, or excuse me, make a resolution that this resolution F-18 gives

1149
01:33:06,870 --> 01:33:13,530
the ability for the city to purchase cell phones for those councils members that want.

1150
01:33:13,930 --> 01:33:20,390
Just leave it like that. And an opt-in situation. Council members. If they want. Yep. Okay.

1151
01:33:20,650 --> 01:33:28,090
Some reason if you don't, we'll respect that. Yeah. I think that's simple question.

1152
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:33,330
Council member rural. So since the settlement drafts idea, I've seen this came out of the finance

1153
01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:39,850
committee is like a hot idea. I'm for this for the record but since it's not drafted yet and we

1154
01:33:39,850 --> 01:33:44,190
don't have anything to look at is this critical to be voted on tonight or can we wait and do it at

1155
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:47,150
the next meeting when it's drafted and we can read it.

1156
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,440
Again I can draft it in one sentence. I mean

1157
01:33:52,440 --> 01:34:00,060
it's that simple. It's resolution F-18 would enable the city to purchase cell phones for those

1158
01:34:00,060 --> 01:34:08,460
council members that would like hear you. I guess that's great and if we could have that for the next meeting, I think that would be more appropriate.

1159
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,560
I would approve of that. The team has just.

1160
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,840
Is it before we, is there a second?

1161
01:34:22,430 --> 01:34:23,790
A second. A second.

1162
01:34:25,070 --> 01:34:26,670
Is there any further discussion?

1163
01:34:28,210 --> 01:34:34,090
Yeah, one one thing probably group text with four more would be an out correct.

1164
01:34:36,430 --> 01:34:40,970
Yes, group texts are not an option with four more people.

1165
01:34:41,290 --> 01:34:45,750
A group

1166
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,060
text would not be on any device.

1167
01:34:52,820 --> 01:34:53,720
Whether it's your question.

1168
01:34:53,720 --> 01:35:00,560
Yeah, I see. I know. I just don't want to clarify that. It was very correct. Yes. When you're talking

1169
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:05,400
about city business, you may not talk about it with more than four people on the city council.

1170
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:11,400
Sorry, more than three people, four or more people when you're talking about city business.

1171
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:21,950
I just have a couple of questions. Go, Will. Will we have a, in the future, in a company resolution for

1172
01:35:21,950 --> 01:35:29,350
a tech policy to have some guidelines in place for this kind of like I've been working

1173
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:34,810
through a social media policy to we protect policy to accompany this and then are we

1174
01:35:34,810 --> 01:35:39,210
going to get our business cards reprinted because my personal cell phone was listed as my

1175
01:35:39,210 --> 01:35:44,530
mobile on my city business cards so I am 100% in favor of having a city phone and not have

1176
01:35:44,530 --> 01:35:47,790
to hand out my personal cell phone every time I give out my business card.

1177
01:35:48,890 --> 01:35:53,250
So, those are the two things, we have tech policy and new business cards.

1178
01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:56,170
Is the tech policy specific to council? Is that the request?

1179
01:35:57,250 --> 01:36:01,810
I think you need to shape tech policy. And I might see city wide.

1180
01:36:02,190 --> 01:36:03,570
I think we need to have a city wide wide.

1181
01:36:03,790 --> 01:36:06,670
There is a city wide tech policy. It probably needs to be updated,

1182
01:36:06,750 --> 01:36:11,830
along with all of our other policies, which we are in the process of doing a lot of them.

1183
01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:15,890
Like our purchasing policy is well underway, along with probably four or five other ones that

1184
01:36:15,890 --> 01:36:38,790
I have that are in draft that will be hopefully finalized soon and tech policy is one of those we have a lot of technology issues that we need to kind of address and deal with so it's almost like we should wait a little bit before we fully update the tech policy until we revise our technology and get our technology little more modernized.

1185
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:41,550
Thank you.

1186
01:36:41,550 --> 01:36:43,130
And yes, we will catch you up.

1187
01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:45,810
Yes.

1188
01:36:46,230 --> 01:36:47,550
Any other discussion?

1189
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:51,420
No, please call the question eight.

1190
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,680
Though it doesn't favor of approving resolution.

1191
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,280
F 518.

1192
01:36:59,260 --> 01:36:59,460
Aye.

1193
01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:00,420
Aye.

1194
01:37:00,740 --> 01:37:00,860
No.

1195
01:37:01,300 --> 01:37:01,940
Those opposed.

1196
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,660
Any abstentions?

1197
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:09,180
Resolution F 518 passes.

1198
01:37:11,340 --> 01:37:11,840
All right.

1199
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:17,460
All right, we'll move to Ordinance Z08, the creation of Arts Council and Administrator Mice.

1200
01:37:18,580 --> 01:37:20,680
Thank you Mayor Mark.

1201
01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:23,500
That should read ARP's commissions.

1202
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,440
Sorry, I'd like to revise that.

1203
01:37:27,780 --> 01:37:28,400
Go ahead.

1204
01:37:28,700 --> 01:37:40,840
So, this is second reading for the City Council on ordinance creating an ARP's commission and making certain revisions.

1205
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:50,300
to the city code with how that new arts commission would relate to the parks forward and to the city council.

1206
01:37:50,860 --> 01:37:57,260
You heard this once and at the first reading there were some suggestions for new and improved language.

1207
01:37:57,260 --> 01:38:05,200
which, so I took a swing at making those changes within the ordinance.

1208
01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:13,040
They are identified in red strike through, we read underline, and then where we made those

1209
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:18,220
changes, I tried to also put them in highlight so that they were easily identifiable.

1210
01:38:18,380 --> 01:38:23,900
But the point was, again, to try and make it very clear that the Arts Commission is a separate

1211
01:38:23,900 --> 01:38:24,420
entity.

1212
01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:27,820
the discussion at the previous meeting.

1213
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:32,180
So for instance, in, can you pull that up, shall we?

1214
01:38:32,980 --> 01:38:33,400
Thank you.

1215
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:42,720
So for instance, in 2.07.055, Part C, language was modified

1216
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:47,980
there to 2.07.055.

1217
01:38:48,020 --> 01:38:49,940
Yes, scroll down a little bit farther.

1218
01:38:54,290 --> 01:38:54,830
There we go.

1219
01:38:56,210 --> 01:38:56,910
Part C.

1220
01:38:56,910 --> 01:39:26,850
And so this is the finished document this doesn't show the underlying strike there, but any recommendation by the arts commission and parks board involving the placement of public earth signage shall be submitted to the city council before it read board of park commissioners for review and approval before taking effect the city council against strike board of park commissioners shall act within 60 days further down if implementation of an approved recommendation required.

1221
01:39:27,490 --> 01:39:43,110
budget amendment. The amendment shall be brought before the council before any funds are expended. So, again, clearly putting that authority to the City Council in regards to how the Arts Commission relates to the City Council as opposed to the Parks Board.

1222
01:39:44,170 --> 01:39:58,390
Section D, you see up, we did see, there we go. That section was completely struck. It had to do with the board of the Parks Board.

1223
01:39:58,390 --> 01:40:12,150
We're rejecting an idea from the arts commission and then there was an appeals process and so we simply struck that out they bring their recommendations to the city council, the city council is a final decision.

1224
01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:20,450
and then over in 2.08.05.0 parts C,

1225
01:40:22,780 --> 01:40:26,600
right A, B, B, C. You see this much shorter section

1226
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:32,760
now before this talked about including works of art recommended over which the Park Commission

1227
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:43,860
final approval. We struck that and then final section 2.08.060 budget and fiscal powers

1228
01:40:43,860 --> 01:40:50,880
This is budget and fiscal powers of the parks floor, I want to be clear, yeah.

1229
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,620
This is budget and fiscal powers of the parks board.

1230
01:40:55,700 --> 01:41:01,960
Arts commission recommendations involving park property that have been approved by the City Council.

1231
01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:06,960
And carry budget implications shall be incorporated into the parks and recreation budget.

1232
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:12,840
So making it clear that arts commission items go through the City Council.

1233
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,480
Council, City Council rules on those items.

1234
01:41:16,170 --> 01:41:21,080
If those items require budget amendment, that amendment comes back to the City Council

1235
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,620
for approval before those dollars get expended.

1236
01:41:24,530 --> 01:41:32,880
If that's something that's going to be in a future budget, then those dollars would be

1237
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:41,320
appropriated to the parks budget, or enumerated for expenditure by the arts commission.

1238
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:49,220
Now, if we wanted to create an arts commission fund and handle that expenditure differently,

1239
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:50,100
you certainly could.

1240
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:56,520
But my goal here was to try and based on previous conversations, separate the parts board

1241
01:41:56,940 --> 01:42:01,860
and the arts commission and put all of that final authority on the City Council.

1242
01:42:03,780 --> 01:42:05,820
Thank the mayor for any questions.

1243
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:06,540
I'll certainly take.

1244
01:42:06,540 --> 01:42:07,520
Any questions?

1245
01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:11,540
First, I really love the highlighting.

1246
01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:13,220
Thank you.

1247
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:14,560
Thank you for that.

1248
01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:18,700
That makes it so much easier to see what the changes were.

1249
01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:19,560
Big fan.

1250
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:22,780
Regarding the actual changes, though,

1251
01:42:23,060 --> 01:42:26,420
I feel like well, one,

1252
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,700
this isn't conflict with our existing code for Parkward.

1253
01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:35,440
So Parkward as of today has full authority over parks

1254
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:43,400
and what happens in parts. So having the arts commission have like an idea for a statue or

1255
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:49,780
something in a park and not going to the park board first is actually in violation of our code,

1256
01:42:49,780 --> 01:42:55,840
far as my understanding of the interpretation of the park board section. So if they came to council,

1257
01:42:57,140 --> 01:43:03,060
I don't know, is that overriding the park board's authority? Is that micromanaging the park board?

1258
01:43:03,060 --> 01:43:10,560
does it then have to go back to the park board or approval and if they like I

1259
01:43:12,710 --> 01:43:13,510
just don't think the

1260
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:20,750
attempt what I was trying to do here was modify the code to make it clear what will and won't be

1261
01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:25,670
a responsibility of the park board going forward with a relationship to the arts commission. So then we

1262
01:43:25,670 --> 01:43:32,100
should update the park board code to remove their authority. I think that's what I did. So if I'm

1263
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:36,620
I mean, this is the arts commission section flip over a couple of things.

1264
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,220
That's just the budget.

1265
01:43:38,940 --> 01:43:41,800
So if you go to section 2.08.

1266
01:43:42,620 --> 01:43:45,800
But it still doesn't change the fact that there is code on the books.

1267
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,600
I'm not sure if actually in Beard Center we touched it.

1268
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,420
That gives the park board authority.

1269
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,160
That's how they were able to do the park rules on their own without having council approval.

1270
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,160
They just informed us.

1271
01:43:59,580 --> 01:44:05,540
So if there's further places that we need to make changes, I'm certainly open to that.

1272
01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:09,960
I was working within the contents of this particular original draft ordinance.

1273
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:18,400
I get there 2.08.505.0 section C, which is the short section here, but previously it said

1274
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:25,060
before deletion, right, including works of art recommended by the Arts Commission pursuant

1275
01:44:25,060 --> 01:44:31,340
the section below 2.07.055 over which the board of park commission retains final approval.

1276
01:44:31,660 --> 01:44:33,120
I struck that section.

1277
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:33,960
And that's fine.

1278
01:44:34,140 --> 01:44:35,460
It's leaving that out.

1279
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:40,400
It still says that permit, the park board has permitting, installing and maintaining

1280
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:46,440
any statutory monuments or works of art placed within the city use or exhibit in parks and

1281
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:47,140
recreation areas.

1282
01:44:47,380 --> 01:44:54,040
So like the additional section that was cut doesn't actually remove the park board's authority

1283
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:59,860
over art in the park. It just removes that they have to talk to the arts.

1284
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:29,980
So to me, this is kind of working backwards, but maybe we could say it's implied because we have park board that it has authority over what happens in the park. And then we have an arts commission that has authority over or recommendations for art, but I guess. I don't. I know the intention was to try and help make sure they were two separate bodies, but that doesn't mean that they have authority in different areas. And they need to

1285
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:35,340
work together just like the arts commission will have to work with anyone if they wanted to paint city hall

1286
01:45:35,340 --> 01:45:40,340
to make it look like a beautiful rainforest outside or something you know they would obviously need

1287
01:45:40,340 --> 01:45:46,320
to talk to the administer all the light department I guess or both. And so this is the same thing with the

1288
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:54,440
park board so I mean we can remove references to them having to work together potentially but I mean

1289
01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:59,840
I mean, I don't think having them go bypass the existing process of going to the park

1290
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,860
board is the right way to approach this.

1291
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:05,740
Certainly.

1292
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:09,500
I mean, that's your perspective and that's the priority of the city council, right?

1293
01:46:10,540 --> 01:46:16,260
Really, what I was attempting to do, I went back, I listened to the entire discussion from

1294
01:46:16,260 --> 01:46:21,960
the last meeting and I attempted to take what was in that discussion with regard to these

1295
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:27,740
items and then integrate that discussion into the ordinance that we had in front of us, right?

1296
01:46:28,180 --> 01:46:34,760
So if the council wants to leave that authority with the parks board, that's to the

1297
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:42,360
prerogative of the city council. What I was attempting to do actually was with regard to deciding

1298
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:51,080
on issues of art in parks, leave that with the city council upon recommendation of both units,

1299
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,460
which is what it says up front.

1300
01:46:54,700 --> 01:47:00,040
When we read Section C where it talks about permitting, installing and maintaining, I look

1301
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:07,760
at those as the normal duties that you would have if you had something in your park.

1302
01:47:08,300 --> 01:47:09,880
You're going to install it.

1303
01:47:10,060 --> 01:47:18,520
Parks would be required to manage the installation process, manage the maintenance of the object,

1304
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:19,980
and manage the permitting.

1305
01:47:19,980 --> 01:47:24,120
And when I say permitting, I'm not talking about permitting of the arts commission.

1306
01:47:24,540 --> 01:47:30,480
I'm talking about do we need building permits or other types of permits to place that object in the park.

1307
01:47:31,740 --> 01:47:39,720
So if there's, if there's other places it needs to be modified for that purpose that's fine.

1308
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:47,060
Or if the council says no, no, we want to leave that authority with the parks board.

1309
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:47,860
That's fine too.

1310
01:47:47,860 --> 01:47:50,520
If there are any other questions?

1311
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:51,200
It's your ordinance.

1312
01:47:52,500 --> 01:47:54,020
Yes, Council Member Vartel.

1313
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,480
First off, I want to commend you for making these modifications.

1314
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,700
And thank you for keeping them highlighted too.

1315
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,980
When we originally brought this ordinance, I think the

1316
01:48:03,980 --> 01:48:07,760
the progative was to establish an arts commission

1317
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:11,700
because there are certain grants that we are

1318
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:14,760
available to apply for if we had an arts commission.

1319
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:25,860
So my understanding is this ordinance as it's developed dovetail into the parks ordinance because that was the logical fit to code by an art sketch.

1320
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:32,200
As I stayed last time, I think there's some misconceptions about park board authority.

1321
01:48:32,540 --> 01:48:41,720
We went through this a few years ago when there was a discussion that the park board assigns fees and sets fees that that is just not correct.

1322
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:47,620
Council sets needs, whether it's for the full, whether it's for rentals at the rent

1323
01:48:47,620 --> 01:48:53,080
of person building, whether it's special permits, fees and fines are established by counts

1324
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,500
by ordinance, not the park board, even if it occurs in parks.

1325
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:05,820
So again, most of the subcommittees are advisory to council and when it comes to assigning

1326
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:09,920
fees, allocating budget, that's a council decision.

1327
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:16,900
So, again, I think you've done a good job, you've accomplished the fact that there is an

1328
01:49:16,900 --> 01:49:20,780
arts commission, there's a advisory to council, it's something we can say.

1329
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:25,880
Yes, we have an arts commission now, and now we can apply for certain grants that I don't

1330
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,420
know who found the grant on the streets, but I think that was a prerequisite.

1331
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,960
If I'm not mistaken, that's what I was thinking.

1332
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,300
Any other comments or questions?

1333
01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:39,420
Hold on, let's see if we may answer something.

1334
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:41,360
Just real quick.

1335
01:49:41,780 --> 01:49:53,300
So I think see for me, see kind of sums it up because we're saying any recommendation by the arts commission and parts board involving the placement of public art blah, blah, blah, blah.

1336
01:49:53,300 --> 01:49:58,540
We're asking those two to work together and then make a recommendation to us.

1337
01:49:58,540 --> 01:50:09,180
So I find that satisfactory that they're working together and then bringing that to us and then we make the decision about whether the art will go wherever it's going.

1338
01:50:09,380 --> 01:50:13,360
So to me it makes sense that they're working together and that's taking place.

1339
01:50:17,630 --> 01:50:26,470
I guess the way that this is written the way I read it is that any recommendation regardless of financial financial anything.

1340
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:35,850
So even if something is like the mural we put in veterans park that was sponsored and there was no financial impact to any one's budget.

1341
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:48,150
So way this is written to me that would still have to come before council if we were to do it again and get approval versus park board just approving it because it's their authority.

1342
01:50:48,810 --> 01:50:54,210
Or in this case arts and parks working together to approve it jointly because there's no cost involved.

1343
01:50:55,590 --> 01:51:08,190
The only reason I think you would need to come before council is a great financial if there's a budget need, if there's an amendment to a budget, if Dan's budget doesn't cover whatever they can't find a grant to cover it.

1344
01:51:09,130 --> 01:51:17,530
I know I personally don't think it's worth council's time to micromanage all of the things, especially if there's no financial oversight needed.

1345
01:51:20,220 --> 01:51:29,300
Yeah, there are comments just broke real quick on that one with the questions about budget even if it's put up front like like with the mural.

1346
01:51:29,940 --> 01:51:38,520
There's no upfront costs. Are we taking it to consideration though? The long term effects of maintenance of some of these installations that even if they weren't paid they were

1347
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,400
are donated by the community.

1348
01:51:41,020 --> 01:51:45,020
Do we still, because there may potentially be budget ramifications

1349
01:51:45,020 --> 01:51:45,840
down the road?

1350
01:51:46,180 --> 01:51:47,960
We would want these things to come before council,

1351
01:51:48,380 --> 01:51:50,900
just to make sure we're aware of any potential budget issues

1352
01:51:50,900 --> 01:51:54,860
that might come from having to maintain these installations.

1353
01:51:55,740 --> 01:51:58,040
Is that, I mean, I guess is that what you're trying to capture

1354
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:58,820
in this or?

1355
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,820
Yes, certainly that's part of it.

1356
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,580
I think you're exactly right that they're whether or not

1357
01:52:06,580 --> 01:52:12,020
front cost is there there's always there's potentially always going to be

1358
01:52:12,020 --> 01:52:18,210
some type of a maintenance cost I think part of the issue though is at some

1359
01:52:18,210 --> 01:52:24,930
point somebody has to be able to make a decision right and the way I understood

1360
01:52:24,930 --> 01:52:32,630
previous conversations here was that there was discomfort with the parks board

1361
01:52:32,630 --> 01:52:37,830
where it being the decision maker over what the arts commission wanted to do.

1362
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:41,350
And there was an appeals process that came back.

1363
01:52:41,810 --> 01:52:47,830
And so my understanding from the discussion we had last time was, let's just put the

1364
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:52,350
City Council as the decision maker and have these two bodies work together.

1365
01:52:52,630 --> 01:52:54,450
And so yeah, that's what I was trying to do.

1366
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:58,190
If your comment is exactly right, there are still some of those types of considerations.

1367
01:52:58,190 --> 01:53:04,250
But really, I was just trying to say, okay, if there's discomfort with the park's board

1368
01:53:04,250 --> 01:53:08,090
being the decision maker, then who gets to make the decision?

1369
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:16,030
And to me, the place for that decision to reside is with the city council.

1370
01:53:16,710 --> 01:53:21,850
That way, you're the end authority on public art.

1371
01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:23,130
Where's it going to go?

1372
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:24,430
And what's it's going to cost?

1373
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:26,370
All of those types of things.

1374
01:53:26,370 --> 01:53:28,930
and your expectation is, as you've said,

1375
01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:30,930
whereas I think we've tried to say in this,

1376
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:32,970
is that they're gonna work together

1377
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:37,210
and bring you joint recommendations, right?

1378
01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:38,710
And then you were the decision there.

1379
01:53:39,170 --> 01:53:41,350
Council Member Hall, I think we might be getting

1380
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:45,790
too nuanced, I mean, their advisory committees,

1381
01:53:46,210 --> 01:53:47,610
so they're not making decisions.

1382
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:49,310
So because they're advisory,

1383
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:50,570
they have to come to City Council.

1384
01:53:50,770 --> 01:53:52,830
I feel like we could easily put them on the consent agenda.

1385
01:53:53,870 --> 01:53:55,250
Take a look at the consent agenda.

1386
01:53:55,250 --> 01:54:03,550
So it wouldn't take up time and they would still be fulfilling their roles and they would probably work together better that way and we would still be serving our role.

1387
01:54:06,820 --> 01:54:09,360
Is there an action expected tonight?

1388
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:15,960
I'm sorry. What are you looking for the second reading or the second reading this evening? Yes, that would be physical.

1389
01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:18,060
Thank you.

1390
01:54:18,060 --> 01:54:24,520
here. But there's no further questions or comments. I move for the second reading of ordinance

1391
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:30,000
Z-08 entitled in summary form only, and that would be deferred to a future being for consideration.

1392
01:54:31,980 --> 01:54:42,980
Okay. So motion in the second to approve the second reading of ordinance Z-08 entitled in summary form

1393
01:54:42,980 --> 01:54:49,540
only. Those in favor. Those opposed. No abstentions.

1394
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,620
providing for membership, turns,

1395
01:55:17,780 --> 01:55:19,040
do you get to get the details

1396
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,200
to provide support and the serviceability

1397
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:22,720
and an effect rate?

1398
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:24,420
Thank you.

1399
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:26,460
All right.

1400
01:55:27,780 --> 01:55:28,780
Staff reports,

1401
01:55:29,780 --> 01:55:33,100
you think you're first, Mr. Mace?

1402
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,060
So I'm gonna set a forward,

1403
01:55:35,260 --> 01:55:37,360
like, one first this evening

1404
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:41,140
and publicly disclosed that I didn't get any bullets

1405
01:55:41,140 --> 01:55:43,340
to Shelley for the-

1406
01:55:43,340 --> 01:55:44,740
She probably made you a slight anyway.

1407
01:55:45,020 --> 01:55:45,260
What's that?

1408
01:55:45,260 --> 01:55:46,840
She would probably make him slide any.

1409
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,440
Oh, good. She didn't cover for you.

1410
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:52,780
And I didn't ask her to.

1411
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:57,160
So, but I would a couple of things I wouldn't mention just real quick.

1412
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,100
If we have it told you about it before.

1413
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,640
This Friday is obviously commemoration of the 9-11 events.

1414
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:10,500
And there is a memorial stair closet at Eastern Washington University.

1415
01:56:10,500 --> 01:56:18,420
that refers to 8.30 a.m. They say 8.30 a.m. to 10 a.m. I think it's 8.30 a.m.

1416
01:56:18,540 --> 01:56:25,140
till whenever it takes you to get all the steps on. Just to put you on notice that we

1417
01:56:25,140 --> 01:56:29,280
will have a significant amount of staff that'll be participating in this in a cross-section

1418
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:33,200
of city departments. We're looking forward to that. The mayor may not have been some

1419
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:39,540
informal wagers made with respect to that. But if it's something that you're interested

1420
01:56:39,540 --> 01:56:47,220
in. We would certainly love to have you as part of Team Cheney on Friday. The event starts at 830. There

1421
01:56:47,220 --> 01:56:52,240
will probably be some of us there earlier than that. There will be some of us there that their whole

1422
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:58,940
role is to encourage and cheerlead. And there's also an option if you don't feel comfortable actually

1423
01:56:58,940 --> 01:57:05,260
walking the steps. There's an option to go track on the track. So you can walk the track and I think the

1424
01:57:05,260 --> 01:57:10,660
The idea is that you're walking at distance equal to what some of the firefighters and

1425
01:57:10,660 --> 01:57:15,000
first responders did in busing the Lincoln tunnel.

1426
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:15,660
What's tunnel?

1427
01:57:16,020 --> 01:57:16,480
Lincoln tunnel.

1428
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:17,160
Okay.

1429
01:57:17,860 --> 01:57:22,480
To arrive at the Twin Towers.

1430
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:26,340
So again, just wanted to make sure if you didn't know about that, a lot of it will be out

1431
01:57:26,340 --> 01:57:31,320
there on Friday, huffing and puffing for a good purpose.

1432
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:38,600
So that being said, I'll take any questions if there are for the administration. Otherwise, we'll move along.

1433
01:57:40,820 --> 01:57:41,340
Thanks.

1434
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,320
Director Ross will

1435
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,000
always show you up with his slides.

1436
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:53,200
It's all Shelley.

1437
01:57:54,580 --> 01:58:00,900
So IT services is what I wanted to kind of talk about and it's funny that we talked a little bit already about technology.

1438
01:58:02,340 --> 01:58:06,120
So we have been dealing with some disparate systems.

1439
01:58:07,660 --> 01:58:11,300
It's funny because one of the images that I had talked about

1440
01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:14,380
with Shelley was some like crossing of wires and tanglement

1441
01:58:14,380 --> 01:58:17,680
and knots and some sparks flying because it felt like

1442
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,160
that's what I kind of walked into when I arrived on day one

1443
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:21,740
and the file server was down.

1444
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,120
So we've made a lot of improvements since then.

1445
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:27,740
Minor improvements, but, you know, there's still improvements.

1446
01:58:27,740 --> 01:58:28,820
We're still moving forward.

1447
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:39,860
Overall, what we're looking to do is really kind of assess the entire system and reevaluate

1448
01:58:39,860 --> 01:58:46,420
it and come up with a plan to make it better, bring it into the modern day.

1449
01:58:47,060 --> 01:58:52,260
Some of the improvements we've done recently was with Microsoft 365.

1450
01:58:52,710 --> 01:58:55,780
We have paid for these products, but a lot of them weren't deployed.

1451
01:58:55,780 --> 01:59:04,500
So we've been able to get many of them deployed so we now are using teams as a city and we're able to communicate more easily with each other.

1452
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:25,560
We've activated SharePoint and we are working to get actually for city council a setup for all of you and we're actually just a little note on that like we're going to have different sections for each committee that will be blocked off for just those.

1453
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:31,120
participants so we don't ever end up in a serial meeting and then the one that has for all

1454
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:35,820
counsel is just going to be informational purposes only so it'll be just PDF of files and so that

1455
01:59:35,820 --> 01:59:41,920
you have access to those files and where that exists. So that's just kind of an idea of like a lot

1456
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:46,960
of the things that we've been working on but when I say we're looking at overhauling our whole system

1457
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:53,800
we already know that our managed services my executive tech is not so great so we are looking at

1458
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:58,220
other solutions for that, but beyond just those other solutions.

1459
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,980
Already is to get a new managed service because we need to replace them. But with that has to be a full

1460
02:00:06,980 --> 02:00:13,860
overhaul of the system, we need to build the architecture, we need to understand what that looks like. Part of it is going to be on

1461
02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:23,260
servers still. Some much of it will be in the cloud. Another big project along with that is going to be our data because we have a lot of data on our

1462
02:00:23,260 --> 02:00:28,620
servers. So we have to clean up that data first before we can even migrate anything. We are dealing

1463
02:00:28,620 --> 02:00:34,440
with some archaic servers. We have some servers that are from the 90s that are still running

1464
02:00:34,980 --> 02:00:40,980
and they're still running software. And they at some point are going to die. And so we're working

1465
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:44,240
tirelessly to figure out what are we going to do with that data, how are we going to be able to

1466
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:53,880
access it and such. We are dealing with our skater servers that also are beyond age. They're

1467
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:59,660
not as old as the 90s but they are still of age a little bit past their life and so we need to

1468
02:00:59,660 --> 02:01:07,280
come up with a solution for that. With that comes the budgeting that's going to have to go around

1469
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:11,640
it but first we need to get a picture of everything and see what those costs are going to be and as we

1470
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:15,780
go through this budget process that's coming up here quickly, we should hopefully have

1471
02:01:15,780 --> 02:01:16,560
that all wrapped in.

1472
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:18,380
Thank you.

1473
02:01:18,540 --> 02:01:18,880
Any questions?

1474
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:21,560
Thanks.

1475
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:22,200
Thank you.

1476
02:01:22,340 --> 02:01:22,520
Yeah.

1477
02:01:22,780 --> 02:01:23,220
Thank you, James.

1478
02:01:24,660 --> 02:01:25,080
Thank you.

1479
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:25,660
You're up, Carrie.

1480
02:01:26,140 --> 02:01:26,660
Oh, no.

1481
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:27,860
Because I don't know the alphabet.

1482
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:29,780
Chief Jenkins.

1483
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,420
Well, I like fall asleep there.

1484
02:01:31,620 --> 02:01:32,460
Sorry about that.

1485
02:01:32,700 --> 02:01:38,620
So in Memorial of 9-11 stair climb, a lot of your teeny firefighters, you probably don't

1486
02:01:38,620 --> 02:01:42,120
know this, they do go to Seattle once a year and they participated in Seattle.

1487
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:46,380
Yeah, climb.

1488
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:52,340
So going out and participating, your firefighters went out last year to Eastern, so the

1489
02:01:52,340 --> 02:01:57,840
the whole theme of the slide this week was a lot of preparation for Eastern and our Eagles coming

1490
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:03,960
back into town. Our first home football game to support that and we'll be in full force with the

1491
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:07,660
9-11, uh, stair climb supporting out here for Eastern as well.

1492
02:02:10,180 --> 02:02:10,920
Thanks, she.

1493
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,560
Now it's your turn, Carrie. I'm sorry, Ms. Gomez.

1494
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:22,140
There you go. No, call me Carrie. I'm going to do my obligatory, um,

1495
02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:30,260
update on our positions. We continue to have a fair amount of turnover, which

1496
02:02:30,260 --> 02:02:34,860
keeps me pretty busy. So our deputy court clerk, we did offer that position.

1497
02:02:34,860 --> 02:02:38,440
She is accepted and will be starting with us on October 1st.

1498
02:02:38,580 --> 02:02:43,960
The waste water collection's equipment operator has also accepted our offer.

1499
02:02:44,780 --> 02:02:46,360
He will be starting later this month.

1500
02:02:47,340 --> 02:02:50,780
The waste water treatment and recommendation plant supervisor.

1501
02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:53,580
That recruitment goes well as we had hoped.

1502
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:57,640
So likely we'll be reposting sometime as soon as we figure that out.

1503
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:00,820
Senior accountant is a new posting as of today.

1504
02:03:00,820 --> 02:03:06,860
So if anybody knows anybody that wants to be our next senior accountant, please have them apply and then we are

1505
02:03:06,860 --> 02:03:09,900
hosting some part-time positions as well

1506
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:14,560
use sports referees always in desperate need of those correct

1507
02:03:15,460 --> 02:03:16,940
So if we have anybody

1508
02:03:17,780 --> 02:03:21,960
That wants to apply it for those those will be posted here shortly

1509
02:03:22,620 --> 02:03:28,660
And then my last fun thing is the Washington Municipal Clerks Association partnership program

1510
02:03:28,660 --> 02:03:35,120
So I serve as an elected board member of the Washington Municipal Clerk's Association.

1511
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:42,600
I'm in my second term on the board and part of one of the things that I have gotten to do

1512
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:49,820
through WMCA is it's called the partnership program but it's a mentor mentee type program.

1513
02:03:50,060 --> 02:03:56,720
And so for the last year and a half, I have been mentoring the town clerk for the town of Friday Harbor

1514
02:03:56,720 --> 02:04:04,820
who is a new clerk. And I guess going into it I didn't really have any expectation. I didn't

1515
02:04:04,820 --> 02:04:11,880
really know what to expect. I've never done this before. So I have discovered that you can learn

1516
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:19,860
as much from a newbie as anybody else. So they in Friday Harbor had a First Amendment auditor

1517
02:04:20,380 --> 02:04:26,440
which we have been lucky enough not to have and had some stuff go really wrong with that because

1518
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:32,280
their staff wasn't trained, they didn't know how to do it, and so I learned a lot of tips and tricks

1519
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:39,220
and things that what to do and not to do in situations like that just from someone that has

1520
02:04:39,220 --> 02:04:44,660
been on her job for just over a year. So I guess the moral of the story is if you ever have the

1521
02:04:44,660 --> 02:04:50,700
opportunity to be in one of those types of roles, absolutely do it because you may be learning as

1522
02:04:50,700 --> 02:04:53,380
much as your party. Thanks,

1523
02:04:57,770 --> 02:04:58,830
Dr. Schulte.

1524
02:05:03,650 --> 02:05:11,910
I like tonight our BPA rebate program that the city has, so the BPA grants funds to

1525
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:20,070
the city. In total amount of the conservation budget was $545,000 and some change. So today

1526
02:05:20,070 --> 02:05:27,530
we have paid out a little over $33,000 to our citizens to upgrade everything from, you

1527
02:05:27,530 --> 02:05:30,310
you know, furnaces, heat pumps, water heaters, windows.

1528
02:05:31,370 --> 02:05:33,270
You know, as you can see, that's a pretty big delta

1529
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:35,410
between what we had budgeted.

1530
02:05:35,470 --> 02:05:38,270
We have $512,898 left.

1531
02:05:38,930 --> 02:05:41,570
So, we encourage our citizens to take advantage

1532
02:05:41,570 --> 02:05:43,430
of that program while the funds are still available.

1533
02:05:44,190 --> 02:05:47,350
So, that does run through September 30th of 2028.

1534
02:05:48,030 --> 02:05:51,350
So, it's a great opportunity for people to increase

1535
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:54,330
the efficiency of their home, lower their energy bills,

1536
02:05:54,330 --> 02:05:57,690
and hats off to Valerie Marsh who you met earlier tonight.

1537
02:05:58,290 --> 02:06:01,050
She's actually the one that processes all the rebate forms

1538
02:06:01,050 --> 02:06:04,450
and make sure that people are getting the correct information to her

1539
02:06:04,450 --> 02:06:07,510
so that we can get those checks back from BPA directly to the citizens.

1540
02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:11,610
So, it's a great program and, you know, any chance that we have

1541
02:06:11,610 --> 02:06:12,850
to spread the word we appreciated.

1542
02:06:13,390 --> 02:06:14,170
Any questions?

1543
02:06:14,970 --> 02:06:15,530
Quick one.

1544
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:18,090
Yeah. How does the citizen apply for a rebate?

1545
02:06:18,350 --> 02:06:19,330
So, it's on our website.

1546
02:06:20,110 --> 02:06:23,770
There's a link to get to the page that shows you what's available.

1547
02:06:23,770 --> 02:06:29,690
and then they contact the utility specialist or the permitting specialist and they can walk

1548
02:06:29,690 --> 02:06:34,230
them through those steps. Lays out everything that they can do, the models, the makes and everything.

1549
02:06:34,510 --> 02:06:38,850
So it's a pretty well well home program. Great. Thank you. Thank you.

1550
02:06:49,740 --> 02:06:50,660
Thanks for the slide,

1551
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:55,880
Shelley, last week. Looks really good. Thank you. So we're inviting everybody this Saturday from

1552
02:06:55,880 --> 02:07:02,480
10 to noon at Chini Middle School or annual touch of truck events. Some of the big vehicles from

1553
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,860
Most of the apartments will be there and gives kids

1554
02:07:05,860 --> 02:07:08,460
and parents an opportunity to go interact with staff

1555
02:07:08,460 --> 02:07:11,580
and see the, like the dump trucks and loaders

1556
02:07:11,580 --> 02:07:13,300
and graders and skid steers.

1557
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,340
And then also we have a number of local businesses

1558
02:07:16,340 --> 02:07:17,540
that are volunteering their time,

1559
02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:21,680
like Dow excavating, JNM fabrication, STA.

1560
02:07:22,100 --> 02:07:23,340
And so anyway, it'll be a fun event.

1561
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:25,480
It's free and there will be food.

1562
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:31,080
And then also just a little blurb about our fall programs,

1563
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:34,000
programs, really great turnout for all youth sports,

1564
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:38,240
kudos to our recreation supervisor for spearheading that,

1565
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,820
and then also our before and after school program

1566
02:07:40,820 --> 02:07:42,920
is training really positively,

1567
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,380
and thanks to Carrie,

1568
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,080
and we've got 19 part-time team members

1569
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,040
and we'll be growing by probably a couple more,

1570
02:07:51,140 --> 02:07:52,620
so that's our report.

1571
02:07:53,730 --> 02:07:54,000
Yes.

1572
02:07:54,300 --> 02:07:56,580
I heard a rumor earlier in the year

1573
02:07:56,580 --> 02:07:59,240
that there might be a helicopter at the Tessertruck,

1574
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:05,660
is that? I think I'm getting some nods. I don't want to spoil the surprise. I didn't

1575
02:08:05,660 --> 02:08:10,680
think so. Huge thanks to Chief Oak. There's some really special surprises that might involve

1576
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:11,160
helicopters.

1577
02:08:19,140 --> 02:08:20,420
We'll be a surprise.

1578
02:08:23,820 --> 02:08:27,520
Thinking of Chief Oak here up. He

1579
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:31,480
sounds like he's making

1580
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,560
and everybody slides now, was that a thing?

1581
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:38,500
To know, I just want to give a shout out to our crisis response team.

1582
02:08:38,740 --> 02:08:46,300
As many of you guys know, I'm a big community policing advocate, and this is the model.

1583
02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:53,380
They work tirelessly to provide services to our citizens, and it really bridges the gap

1584
02:08:53,380 --> 02:08:56,560
between police response and initial response and resources.

1585
02:08:57,360 --> 02:09:00,040
So they're paramount to what we do every day.

1586
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:05,820
I can't tell you how many times I hear that we were the citizens are so happy to speak

1587
02:09:05,820 --> 02:09:09,720
with them when they're kind of reluctant to speak to a police officer that responded.

1588
02:09:09,980 --> 02:09:16,880
So it's really getting us engaged with the citizens and the resources that we could provide

1589
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:17,180
them.

1590
02:09:17,300 --> 02:09:21,960
So we're super grateful for them and we're also grateful for area heights as partnership

1591
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:28,700
because oftentimes some of these calls require two teams to respond and so we've got us

1592
02:09:28,700 --> 02:09:29,760
is there with Hyde's team as well.

1593
02:09:30,060 --> 02:09:32,780
So just to do a fantastic job and super proud of them.

1594
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,680
And yeah, any questions?

1595
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:38,420
And I'm not flying a helicopter, I promise.

1596
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:40,640
Like, you guys are good.

1597
02:09:40,820 --> 02:09:41,300
Say it with a say.

1598
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:43,560
Thanks, Chief.

1599
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:47,100
Director Ferguson.

1600
02:09:50,710 --> 02:09:52,030
Okay, well, thank you.

1601
02:09:52,090 --> 02:09:53,350
She'll only she bailed me out on this one.

1602
02:09:53,690 --> 02:09:54,990
But that's not the question.

1603
02:09:56,610 --> 02:09:57,510
We wouldn't do without her.

1604
02:09:58,590 --> 02:09:59,850
I was asked to kind of highlight

1605
02:09:59,850 --> 02:10:02,150
what the code partner is doing now.

1606
02:10:02,150 --> 02:10:04,890
that we have, Mr. Chessy on board full time.

1607
02:10:05,530 --> 02:10:07,230
Without we pulled some information

1608
02:10:07,230 --> 02:10:10,350
and just last year or excuse me, last month's permits,

1609
02:10:11,190 --> 02:10:13,050
you can see the blue graph there,

1610
02:10:13,170 --> 02:10:15,570
building brought in 38 permits, civil four permits,

1611
02:10:17,230 --> 02:10:23,610
code had 48 contacts, I'm not gonna say permits,

1612
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:25,570
contacts and follow-ups,

1613
02:10:26,190 --> 02:10:27,570
and public works had eight permits

1614
02:10:27,570 --> 02:10:29,170
and zoning had four permits.

1615
02:10:29,770 --> 02:10:31,250
And the evaluations are there with it.

1616
02:10:31,250 --> 02:10:38,870
We've done a pretty substantial job revamping the code department since Philip came on board.

1617
02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:41,170
He's getting his feet under him.

1618
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:46,450
He's been working with courts on citations and how to go about that process.

1619
02:10:47,190 --> 02:10:49,690
His letters, he's put out our phenomenal.

1620
02:10:49,690 --> 02:10:56,790
He's getting a lot of response from him of the 48 that went out in August last month.

1621
02:10:56,790 --> 02:11:02,230
Yeah, August 20 or 20 of them are closed already 20 of them are still in follow-up. We have an issue to any

1622
02:11:02,910 --> 02:11:04,330
citations at this point so

1623
02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:10,730
Code is moving along well and I think it's gonna be a good investment for the city because majority of these things are

1624
02:11:13,250 --> 02:11:16,870
impacting the face of the city as far as

1625
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:17,930
upkeep

1626
02:11:19,210 --> 02:11:20,710
keeping junk off properties

1627
02:11:21,550 --> 02:11:23,190
lowering fire hazards so

1628
02:11:23,970 --> 02:11:30,710
Overall, it's a valuable program and it's only going to get better as we go, so code is

1629
02:11:30,710 --> 02:11:34,930
being successful at this point and we expect it to continue to go, so I have any questions.

1630
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:37,830
Cool. Thank you. Thank you.

1631
02:11:40,310 --> 02:11:46,970
Thank you very much. Just want to reiterate mostly, for my

1632
02:11:46,970 --> 02:11:52,570
report, I do want to invite you to touch truck and you should bring the kids in your life

1633
02:11:52,570 --> 02:12:03,250
to join you and hawks and horns. Well, I'm sorry. The horn honking only happens after 1030. So, it's going to be fun.

1634
02:12:05,510 --> 02:12:18,450
And also to invite you to the Memorial Stair Climb. These past couple of weeks I have met with EWU for some coordination and also working with the county on some coordination.

1635
02:12:18,450 --> 02:12:22,330
and those things are going well.

1636
02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:25,550
I'm really excited about things coming up with Eastern

1637
02:12:25,550 --> 02:12:27,790
and just the continued partnership.

1638
02:12:27,790 --> 02:12:31,410
It feels like that is growing and that's really cool.

1639
02:12:31,690 --> 02:12:35,890
And then I also want to just give a shout out

1640
02:12:36,330 --> 02:12:38,190
for the new Pickleball courts.

1641
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:39,790
They are fully functional.

1642
02:12:40,130 --> 02:12:41,650
So if Pickleball is your sport,

1643
02:12:41,810 --> 02:12:44,350
you've got another month or two to get some games in

1644
02:12:44,350 --> 02:12:51,870
in our new football courts. The ribbon cutting was not this pass Saturday, but the Saturday

1645
02:12:51,870 --> 02:12:57,990
before. And I have to see some people playing football in tennis and it was very fun.

1646
02:12:58,210 --> 02:13:03,210
So make sure you go check that out and participate in the country's newest FAD.

1647
02:13:10,430 --> 02:13:13,530
Council reports

1648
02:13:13,530 --> 02:13:18,670
week. I know I did put out a request a couple months ago for the figures where we were at

1649
02:13:19,290 --> 02:13:21,050
was spending the opioid last year.

1650
02:13:23,510 --> 02:13:27,270
Sooner or weeky get that the better because the dashboard is waiting on Chee

1651
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:31,950
Need to give our information to the county as to what we've spent it on. I also know there's been

1652
02:13:31,950 --> 02:13:37,790
recently some requests for using the opioid funds so having a better idea of where we're at

1653
02:13:37,790 --> 02:13:41,790
with those funds would be super, especially before the next public safety meet.

1654
02:13:42,510 --> 02:13:47,630
Um, and then I attended the West Plains Chamber of Commerce beyond the roof or breakfast beyond the roofs.

1655
02:13:47,930 --> 02:13:55,170
Uh, that was a lot of fun this year. It's great to attend and be in community and see a lot of friendly and familiar faces. And that's it.

1656
02:13:56,050 --> 02:13:56,510
That's it.

1657
02:13:56,730 --> 02:13:57,890
I'll tell someone along.

1658
02:14:12,890 --> 02:14:18,870
Quick overview, but you can kind of, uh, not a lot has happened last couple weeks. So that's good.

1659
02:14:19,330 --> 02:14:20,930
Um, you can go to the next slide.

1660
02:14:20,930 --> 02:14:26,330
I am the council liaison on the Historic Preservation Commission.

1661
02:14:26,750 --> 02:14:30,470
So you heard earlier a call who's on the Historic Preservation Commission.

1662
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:34,750
She gave public comment regarding this concern that came up at the last meeting.

1663
02:14:35,570 --> 02:14:41,310
So federal government's looking at changing rules for the Historic Preservation Act, specifically

1664
02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:47,550
the Section 08 or 106 that is impacts like local governments and how we participate in things.

1665
02:14:47,550 --> 02:14:53,310
So they're looking at taking away historic designations and taking away the right are right as a city

1666
02:14:54,030 --> 02:14:56,510
to give feedback and input on

1667
02:14:57,390 --> 02:14:58,710
changes that happen to

1668
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,940
So like our downtown, for example, if the federal government wanted to come in and like do something. If these changes went through, we wouldn't have a right to really speak to that. Or even be notified. So this isn't hasn't come up for public commentary yet. But as soon as it does, which can happen any day, I definitely recommend folks provide public comment to the agency that is, you know, looking at this. I have more specifics. I know it's a long meeting. So I didn't

1669
02:15:29,940 --> 02:15:34,460
put them on my slide, but I have a newsletter, so I will post them with like a link of where you

1670
02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:39,580
can track this, or you can reach out to the Historic Preservation Commission, or Susan Beeman,

1671
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:45,440
who is the staff liaison for that, and we can get more information to you if you're interested.

1672
02:15:46,820 --> 02:15:52,720
Anyway, that's my serious slide. So here's the Pickleball Court. So I also got to stop in and check

1673
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:59,240
them out, and I have to use them today at lunch too. And then, yeah, and then a bunch of us, we had a

1674
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:05,460
really great turnout at breakfast beyond the rules this year, which was much less yellow

1675
02:16:05,460 --> 02:16:12,940
jacket infested because we were inside. Yeah, it was just great to like celebrate Eastern

1676
02:16:12,940 --> 02:16:19,060
athletics and see that we had a full table of cheney showing up to support Eastern.

1677
02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:23,260
I think that was great. So yeah, those are my fun and things.

1678
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:28,880
Yeah, I also kind of breakfast

1679
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:34,020
to be on the ruse and I think my big takeaway there was um how many times director

1680
02:16:34,020 --> 02:16:40,540
cruelly got name dropped. It's really cool and tells us what a awesome

1681
02:16:40,540 --> 02:16:45,100
parks and rec director we have so that was pretty awesome and then I just want

1682
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:47,520
to thank shelly for making the staff look really good.

1683
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:50,440
Council member Rattell.

1684
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:52,440
The mayor's committee.

1685
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:55,380
Thursday at 7 a.m.

1686
02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:59,300
It's our TC by around Thursday.

1687
02:16:59,880 --> 02:17:00,100
And then.

1688
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:01,960
We talked about it.

1689
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:05,940
Finance committee tonight that we're coming on the budget season.

1690
02:17:06,220 --> 02:17:07,580
As that rolls into October.

1691
02:17:08,340 --> 02:17:10,480
We talked about a little bit about our retreat.

1692
02:17:12,940 --> 02:17:18,120
I believe it was a budgeted item last year to facilitate a retreat.

1693
02:17:18,820 --> 02:17:26,380
I think the mindset of a retreat is council and staff get to go to not Hawaii, but maybe.

1694
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:30,540
Some conference room maybe in here, but somewhere a little different.

1695
02:17:31,260 --> 02:17:38,200
That is that retreat is public actually facilitated by someone else other than a staff member or council member or mayor.

1696
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:42,300
and we just kind of go through budgets and priorities.

1697
02:17:43,140 --> 02:17:46,780
So I think in past discussions,

1698
02:17:46,780 --> 02:17:49,780
we talked about a retreat lasting about four or five hours.

1699
02:17:50,340 --> 02:17:51,340
In finance committee tonight,

1700
02:17:51,340 --> 02:17:54,840
we talked about it might be most appropriate to do a retreat,

1701
02:17:55,140 --> 02:17:59,520
maybe between the first and second reading of the budget.

1702
02:17:59,880 --> 02:18:01,520
I think James correct me if I'm wrong,

1703
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:07,320
but the first reading was at the first meeting in October.

1704
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:13,180
It's the I think it's the second meeting October. I'll have a calendar out later this week, I think.

1705
02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:19,420
So the reason we're throwing this out is it may be appropriate to get a serving a pool out to see it.

1706
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:24,440
On the first week of November, that's that kind of fits the vulnerable.

1707
02:18:24,980 --> 02:18:27,980
So I think it would be good on new faces.

1708
02:18:29,380 --> 02:18:30,100
And yeah.

1709
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:32,000
So yeah, thank you.

1710
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:33,780
Thank you. Council member hon.

1711
02:18:34,280 --> 02:18:39,180
Just for me September is suicide prevention awareness month.

1712
02:18:40,020 --> 02:18:43,560
So there's lots of opportunities to learn about that.

1713
02:18:43,860 --> 02:18:47,500
If you're interested, so I guess I would just challenge everyone to.

1714
02:18:48,020 --> 02:18:51,840
You probably know some things about it, but maybe this month learn something news.

1715
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:58,000
Look for things like asking someone if they are having suicidal thoughts.

1716
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:00,160
doesn't actually give them suicidal thoughts,

1717
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:02,340
because we're seeing more and more of that in our community.

1718
02:19:02,580 --> 02:19:04,260
So just really taking the opportunity

1719
02:19:04,260 --> 02:19:06,880
when information is everywhere to learn something new.

1720
02:19:09,500 --> 02:19:16,220
All right, 8.08, our meeting is concluded.

1721
02:19:17,820 --> 02:19:20,400
It's kind of not jammed, it's kind of jammed.

1722
02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:22,900
It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't.

1723
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:23,820
Just you wait for,