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[0:19] Okay. Well, I just, I
[0:30] just think. Oh, yeah. But what do you say is as I was walking into this room, because I didn't. Just, I'm having my lunch. I'm not.
[1:56] Oh, that's good.
[1:58] Yeah, obviously.
[2:01] So I
[2:04] don't see the.
[2:05] I don't see the.
[2:07] I don't see the.
[2:07] They.
[2:11] That's.
[2:12] For.
[2:12] I.
[2:14] It's.
[2:15] It is.
[2:19] No, I would tell.
[2:21] I.
[2:22] It.
[2:22] So we've been missing for a moment to send you out of it.
[2:29] We come for you all.
[2:33] So.
[2:35] Global is known as an engine.
[2:39] I send it.
[2:40] If I went back after you and had part of it.
[2:42] That's right.
[2:44] Where is that?
[2:51] Yeah, I'm real.
[2:53] I think.
[2:55] Yeah.
[2:58] Step on it.
[3:03] It's the same.
[3:04] I'm going to ask my question.
[3:07] Val.
[3:08] That would be the list of all cells.
[3:13] Enduro syndrome.
[3:16] And that was it.
[3:25] One day.
[3:32] So, there's a bunch of other cities that have similar cities.
[3:38] I can send that over.
[3:40] So, we're from the state law.
[3:42] It's the same person that needs to be very clear.
[3:55] The RCW, I found that the council can approve a removal, they just can't initiate one, so I think that's the change that needs to happen.
[4:06] and I, and I guess in either way, my notes. Yeah, excuse me. Yeah. I'm more free tomorrow.
[4:13] What? Yeah. I don't know what I'm able to find interviews.
[4:16] Oh, it's very special. I also submitted a request to MRSE for their feedback team. Yeah.
[4:27] Uh, I guess I am. Okay, we don't want to talk about tonight. I'm going to be there. Oh, well,
[4:32] Oh, I guess I was thinking about it again.
[4:36] Oh.
[4:37] Thank you.
[4:38] It's a direct situation that trust is involved.
[4:41] Jason, I got so excited.
[4:43] I never wanted to talk.
[4:44] What would you do with your thoughts?
[4:46] At the moment, council hasn't presented anything directly
[4:51] until we passed new rules.
[4:53] Yeah, yeah.
[4:53] So I guess I was assuming that you were going to present it
[4:56] or Mike, since Mike presented the rules originally.
[4:59] So we'll know that.
[5:03] Okay.
[5:05] Okay.
[5:14] I just.
[5:16] Hey, Mark.
[5:17] Let's talk afterwards.
[5:19] I might have two options for you.
[5:22] Now.
[5:22] I'm going to have to
[5:29] finish.
[5:36] I have to wish.
[5:37] Yeah.
[5:37] I'm going to use that.
[5:41] What's this?
[5:42] I know.
[5:43] It's supposed to be.
[5:43] I think this is on your agenda.
[5:46] They have.
[5:57] You know, we couldn't have these things.
[6:00] We want to get very.
[6:02] So, say as I'm meeting.
[6:04] I mean.
[6:05] Because we have most.
[6:07] Yeah.
[6:38] It's going to be nice to have them all the time.
[6:44] No,
[6:51] how's it going?
[6:53] I'm good.
[6:54] Good.
[6:54] Thank you.
[6:55] Hi.
[6:56] How are you?
[6:57] How are you?
[6:58] Good.
[6:59] I love the paw.
[7:00] It's you.
[7:01] I've got to go down.
[7:02] It's over here.
[7:05] Yeah.
[7:06] Is he leaving for 10 days tomorrow?
[7:09] Yeah.
[7:09] Yeah, he's headed to West Yellow Bulls outside of West Yellow Zone, oh honey. Yeah, so he's excited. He lives for this season.
[7:25] So you also need an agenda item number.
[7:30] And so you want to hear my newest adventure and I like question.
[7:32] I don't know how constitutional this is, but I feel like they have to disclose what a place was.
[7:42] Oh, this is a red.
[7:44] Yeah.
[7:46] So this is 20%.
[7:53] That's right.
[7:56] It's like.
[7:57] It's like three.
[7:58] Okay, you're like, oh, this
[8:02] makes.
[8:02] Yeah.
[8:03] I mean.
[8:04] So for that.
[8:07] 70 line.
[8:08] Yeah.
[8:10] Yeah.
[8:11] So I wouldn't
[8:12] This just makes me feel so full and happy.
[8:14] I'm feel so happy all the time.
[8:14] Yeah, yeah.
[8:21] I think I really want to say,
[8:32] Yeah.
[8:33] I'm really happy.
[8:34] I am really happy.
[8:35] Really!
[8:37] Yeah.
[8:40] I am really happy.
[8:41] I am really happy because it's...
[8:42] Yeah.
[8:42] the dust on there that's the whole time. This is you.
[8:47] And you know, we got the like, I mean, the
[8:52] this. I just don't know. I've taken up the whole space here with
[8:59] everything.
[9:02] So I can't do that. Yeah. I mean, like, oh, that's
[9:05] going to be pretty good. I'm just like the pool. This is like,
[9:08] oh, yeah. I've heard about insane. Like, missing a one that
[9:11] sold. Yeah. Yeah. That means it's not what you would like to see.
[9:16] That's not like nothing worse. It's not there. And so it was the
[9:19] same electrician guy that came out last time. This is just
[9:21] and I'm just like, oh my god.
[9:24] But yeah, he's just, he's like,
[9:26] so the wire's just supposed to be inside the box.
[9:28] That's it.
[9:29] Huh.
[9:31] Oh, boy, yeah.
[9:33] Oh my god.
[9:33] Oh my god.
[9:34] It was a bit of a way to write the writing.
[9:36] Oh, yeah.
[9:37] He didn't have the redo to write it.
[9:39] He just asked me, no.
[9:41] Shelley, what is, like, 26,
[9:43] he's zero, seven, zero, and so on.
[9:45] Yeah, so he ended up like, who's put in, like, yeah.
[9:47] Yeah, he's not one.
[9:48] And I think now it's amounted to this.
[9:50] This is Welsh. He cleaned everything.
[9:52] Is this so?
[9:52] You were in here, I just need to learn how to pass through.
[9:55] Oh, the highlights.
[9:57] My God, not me. Oh, God.
[9:59] I cannot.
[10:00] So my question for you today, you're taking this.
[10:03] No, but I expect there.
[10:05] So I can bring you to the next page.
[10:09] I think this is general.
[10:10] I'll remind you something.
[10:11] And this, I might find.
[10:14] Say you're not.
[10:15] We're going on.
[10:17] Thank you.
[10:19] Thank you.
[10:20] You know what it is.
[10:21] So, like,
[10:22] I like.
[10:25] Okay.
[10:26] Like, I like.
[10:27] The.
[10:27] What.
[10:28] You said.
[10:32] Well,
[10:32] to write after roll call.
[10:35] Okay.
[10:36] We please stand for the pledge of allegiance.
[10:44] I plead.
[10:45] I plead.
[10:50] in this one nation under the law,
[10:53] individual with liberty and justice across.
[10:59] Thank you.
[11:01] Yes, we should have started with,
[11:04] we're calling to order a regular city council meeting
[11:07] of September eight.
[11:09] And then we could have done the pledge.
[11:10] But that's okay.
[11:12] So a roll call.
[11:14] I'm on a roll, Mayor Mark.
[11:15] Here.
[11:16] Council member Hall.
[11:18] Here.
[11:18] Council member Mark Hall.
[11:20] Here.
[11:20] Council member Potsman.
[11:22] Present.
[11:31] I would like to make a motion to a gen or to make an addition to a agenda item 26-070 that
[11:50] that is for a simply lease agreement
[11:54] and it's resolution F517.
[11:58] And then secondly, I'd like to amend the agenda
[12:02] to add agenda item 26-071.
[12:09] That is for council members cell phones
[12:12] with resolution F-518.
[12:17] And then thirdly and lastly,
[12:19] I'd like to amend the agenda under informational items to move the council rules down one slot and in the first informational slot.
[12:28] I'd like to yield the floor to Mr Ferguson for some employee recognition.
[12:36] There's second second emotion and a second to amend the agenda for two resolutions and employee introductions those in favor.
[12:45] Hi. Hi.
[12:47] You're opposed? Right. Our agenda has been amended. Thank you.
[12:52] At this point, we will proceed with citizen comments.
[12:56] A reminder to our citizens that everyone up here is a person too.
[13:00] And a reminder to those on the diet that everyone commenting is a person.
[13:05] So we will be respectful of one another.
[13:08] We have received some citizen comments via email this past couple weeks.
[13:13] the first one was on August 25th from Michelle Thompson regarding the Arts Commission.
[13:19] Another on the third from Frankie Venca regarding train horns. Again on the third from citizen
[13:29] Donnerberg about fluoride and axon contract on September 6th, another from citizen Thompson regarding
[13:40] fluoride on September 8th from citizen DeMio regarding fluoride and then on the 8th again an email
[13:50] from citizen Miller regarding the ordinance, the chicken keeping ordinance. So we will now do our
[13:58] in-person citizen comments with citizen click. If you'll come to the microphone, tell us your name
[14:05] and address for the record and then we have a two-minute timer somewhere
[14:10] possibly. Look at us on the screen. Look at that. Thank you. My name is Cole Clark.
[14:18] I live at 27 North Fifth Street here in Cheney and I am coming to you as a
[14:25] longtime Cheney resident and a historian to speak about section 106 of the
[14:31] National Historic Preservation Act. There are currently proposed amendments that would disinvolve
[14:38] local and state and tribal governments and communities and councils from having opinions
[14:44] and being consulted on decisions regarding historic properties and lands. It is my opinion that
[14:52] that these proposed amendments by the Federal Committee are not the most-
[15:00] We've thought through and not the wisest. We as the individuals of a city on our historic commissions, our local historic organizations, we have a right to be involved in what is done with our historic lands and structures. Without being able to be involved, the chini depot, which I am involved with as a board member, we would not have the depot at this point. If the decision could be made without local or state government,
[15:29] and the building could have been torn down
[15:32] and we had never had an opportunity
[15:33] to preserve a piece of chain history.
[15:36] Being able to have this involvement is crucial
[15:40] and I think these ideas are unwise,
[15:45] is the short version.
[15:47] I'd ask the council to do some research into it.
[15:52] Make, if you are able, there are opportunities
[15:57] these to comment from 90 days,
[15:59] I believe that is still ongoing.
[16:02] So essentially, help us keep the reigns of history
[16:06] local in addition to federal is my ask.
[16:10] Oh, thank you.
[16:11] Thank you.
[16:13] Is there anyone else in person who would like to comment
[16:17] did not have a chance to sign up?
[16:20] Are there any on one Mary Jones?
[16:25] can you hear me?
[16:40] Okay. Mary, Mary, you have two minutes. Are you available?
[16:51] Last chance?
[16:55] Okay, I would encourage you to send your comments to council comments at the city of Chini.
[17:00] And at that point, at this point, we will close our citizen comments and, oh, I'm sorry,
[17:05] they're more. It has me.
[17:10] Okay. Citizen Donnerberg, a reminder, you have two minutes and we say your name
[17:13] and address for the record. Yes, my name is
[17:19] Karina Donnerberg. I live on any place here in
[17:22] Cheney and I just wanted to reiterate what I did
[17:25] send the council over email in this public forum.
[17:28] I'm concerned about the proposed removal of
[17:31] fluoride from city water.
[17:35] One, I think there's very
[17:37] solid evidence that municipal water fluoridation is a
[17:42] practical, cost effective, and equitable way for communities to improve their residents
[17:46] oral health, regardless of age education or income, with a reminder to our council
[17:54] and those watching that before this current administration and poverty rates in Cheney
[18:00] were around 30, 32, 33 percent, and so we do have a significant number of folks living
[18:09] and economic hardship. I think from participating in conversations online with other folks in the
[18:17] community, I think there's a lot of misinformation floating around about that's got people worried
[18:23] about the health impacts of fluoride and I just don't think that the evidence backs those concerns
[18:32] and so I hope that the city is looking to the science when making those decisions. We have examples
[18:38] of Juno, Alaska, and Calgary who ended municipal water
[18:42] fluoridation, Florida, how are we, say that word?
[18:46] They picked the Florida out of their water and saw a sharp
[18:50] increase in cavities, direct impact, negative impact on
[18:55] dental health. I do hear the cost concerns, I want to
[18:58] recognize that the axon contract on tonight's agenda is
[19:02] almost a quarter of a million dollars and an undisclosed
[19:05] amount has been spent on flock cameras, which are actually going to be removed.
[19:10] And so I just want to raise public health as an important intervention.
[19:18] Thank you.
[19:21] And we have someone else who says in box truck.
[19:27] You have two minutes.
[19:28] Will you please state your name and address for the record?
[19:32] Yes.
[19:32] Can you hear me?
[19:34] Yeah.
[19:34] Okay.
[19:35] My name is Micah Boxer.
[19:36] kind of live on Elm Street in Chini. I just wanted to share a couple of pieces of feedback. So one,
[19:42] I know that there's been a lot of construction in town this summer and one thing that's been
[19:46] really challenging is not having good pre-notification to residents about when the construction is going to
[19:53] start or what exactly might happen on their property or adjacent to their property. So my house a
[19:59] couple years ago was impacted when they did the water works. They started just digging in our yard and
[20:03] they didn't tell us ahead of time so we couldn't have saved plants or prepared the area.
[20:07] And then similarly across our street, on the other side of our neighbors were similar
[20:11] impacted this summer when they started working on the sidewalks.
[20:14] They cut into about a third of their front yard, including rupturing sprinkler lines and
[20:19] the water was on because they didn't know that the day that it was coming, they just showed
[20:22] up and started digging.
[20:23] So we understand that some of these things are to improve the town, but we just want to make
[20:27] sure that residents have a chance to prepare ahead of time, you know, because like my
[20:31] across the street neighbor is a young parent and their basement could have
[20:34] flooded if they didn't realize that the sprinkler lines had ruptured and
[20:37] the water was still connected. And second, I would like to echo the previous
[20:41] comments about fluoride and the water. I'm a long-time cheney resident as well. I've
[20:46] lived here almost 40 years on and off and I've never had any dental cavities and
[20:50] even when I didn't have dental insurance when I couldn't afford it, I do think
[20:54] that the fluoride and the water following the science is important and the number
[20:58] people in Cheney living below the poverty line, which is only gotten worse. I'm sure as gas is
[21:03] climbed to $5 plus a gallon, groceries have gotten more and more expensive. So a lot of folks are
[21:09] struggling and we want to make sure that kids and everyone else has as much opportunity to have good
[21:15] oral health, which can lead to a lot of other health concerns. So I would just start to the council to
[21:20] do the research and follow the science and not follow the misinformation being spread online by
[21:25] anti-vaxxers and others. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you. So this time we will
[21:34] close our citizen comments and proceed to reviewing the minutes from our August 25th regular city council meeting.
[21:53] There's a motion and a second to approve the regular city council minutes, those in favor.
[22:09] We'll move to vouchers and payroll, Mr. Rouse.
[22:13] Madam Mayor, esteemed council members, our vouchers total 266,462 dollars and 33 cents.
[22:22] And our payroll is 741,957 and 57 cents.
[22:29] I hear the Finance Committee has reviewed these vouchers and payroll and I was moved for approval
[22:34] as to that.
[22:37] Second.
[22:38] There's a motion and a second to approve vouchers and payroll, those in favor?
[22:41] Hi.
[22:42] Yeah, I'm opposed.
[22:43] All right.
[22:44] You can see the small contract for DIFFCO to repair a capacitor at the run person building
[22:50] that I approved this past couple weeks.
[22:52] And so we will now move to our information items.
[22:55] and the first one is Mr. Ferguson for employee, new employee introductions.
[23:02] Come on up. You need to come on up. Come on up. We're glad to have you. We want them to know.
[23:10] We want them to know it. Yeah. Good evening. This is something we've done.
[23:15] Years past was introduced to our new employees so we thought we'd try to bring that back and keep
[23:19] up on him. We've had a number of new people join our ranks. And so tonight I have Philip
[23:27] PJ Chesney with us. He is the Billion Spector Code of Work. Quote that. Code of
[23:33] Workman Officer. He's been on board about two months now. Almost ready. Yeah. And he's
[23:39] cranking out the code work, which is great. He got caught up speed on the building inspection. So
[23:44] a great addition to our team.
[23:47] Valerie Marsh, she's our utility specialist
[23:49] of public works, been here with us about six weeks.
[23:52] Two months?
[23:53] Not as old as Pete.
[23:54] Time flies.
[23:55] I can't.
[23:55] Ha ha ha ha.
[23:57] Becoming a very valuable member of our front office staff,
[23:59] which is great.
[24:01] And then Logan, hey, he's been here with us about seven years now.
[24:04] I'm like a guest.
[24:05] I've missed both of these.
[24:07] So, about four months.
[24:09] Yeah, he's equipment operating for our department.
[24:11] He brings a lot of experience with us,
[24:12] city as well. So we've got some great distance to the team and we want to have
[24:18] opportunity to introduce and varsity council and administrative staff.
[24:22] Thanks for being here, you guys.
[24:24] Thank you.
[24:30] You don't have to stick around, but I'm not going to hurt our people.
[24:37] All right. So now for the informational items are council rules of procedure, Mr.
[24:44] please.
[24:47] Thank you, Mayor Warren. So just in terms of a rather quick introduction, the
[24:52] City Commission tonight, you have an informational item regarded to your a draft set of Teenie
[25:00] City Council rules of procedure. These are, this is a document that has worked its way through
[25:08] the general government committee. There have been, I believe, a couple of different drafts
[25:12] this document the like the desire of the committee was to bring this document to the council tonight
[25:19] as an information item perhaps have some conversation between yourself if there's different
[25:25] pieces in here that you would like to address or or further explored or whatever. I know that
[25:33] Mike and I have met a couple of times around this document we have had the opportunity to review it in
[25:40] detail and we'll have some edits to suggest to you some of those are pretty minor.
[25:45] There's probably a half dozen items that if you all don't say hey we should talk about
[25:53] that then we'll probably put it on your radar to make sure you do talk about it.
[25:58] But for the purpose of tonight really all I wanted to do was stand up and say here they are,
[26:05] you've had them for now I think two weeks, a little bit longer than two weeks perhaps,
[26:11] from when we sent them out immediately after the last general government committee meeting.
[26:16] So discuss them on yourselves and we'll be here to take any questions or provide any comments.
[26:26] Have you had a chance to look at these? Yes, this is your meeting. And we'll take really good notes.
[26:32] Yeah, yeah, if you just for sake of order, feel free to raise your hand or acknowledge so you want to start over here.
[26:45] I've reviewed them. I really don't necessarily have any questions. I feel like it.
[26:51] It's nice to have a document that allows us to have rules and how work is supposed to navigate to the council. So I don't have a question either of this time.
[27:04] You said you discussed it so as all of it has all that been legally vetted at this point, like we know we can move forward with all the.
[27:12] I have some comments.
[27:15] Okay, there we go.
[27:18] Can can we hear those?
[27:22] Yes.
[27:23] Thank you.
[27:29] I'm not saying that I see things that are not saying there's something that's like giving
[27:36] me right.
[27:39] So
[27:42] I just have some suggestions for how we might work things a little different.
[27:46] I do think that it's an improvement over the first draft circulated and there's yeah,
[27:54] Yeah, it would take a little bit. It'll take a long time to kind of go through, but I'd be happy to sit down and go through with you.
[28:01] Is there any areas that you would highlight for council members to?
[28:06] Some arise as I have notes throughout. That's okay. There
[28:20] are some little things like Mr. Mies mentioned like for instance on a consent agenda with I believe the intent was that any council member could remove something from the consent agenda.
[28:32] what it says is anyone can request that.
[28:35] So I would want to clean that up to just say
[28:38] any one of you has the ability to pull something off.
[28:41] Not just request it, which might request
[28:44] presumes it could be denied, right?
[28:47] Things like that.
[28:51] On 3.7, there's a discussion about the powers of the mayor
[28:58] and it includes making motions and a second.
[29:03] Those are not included in your studio,
[29:06] that gets the mayor the as the word eat.
[29:20] So it's a lot of things like this
[29:21] that I'm happy to continue to go.
[29:24] Yeah, so I'm curious about where the conversations,
[29:29] are the conversations happening now
[29:30] like are the question about that do I ask it now?
[29:33] Or is there like work shopping
[29:35] that I read in this document that we would do around this?
[29:38] We could do it as a workshop and if you do that's that would be an open public meeting kind of thing like this we can go through it now as well.
[29:48] I'm happy to keep plugging along every references or I'm happy to also be.
[30:02] So, like, with 3.7, those components aren't in the RCW, so we would be expanding the power. We would be choosing to expand the powers. We actually don't have the authority in that particular case to allow the mayor to make a motion or a second, because the mayor's body is simply in the event of a time. That would be the technical difference on that.
[30:30] anyway, we wouldn't include move in second, but it is perfectly acceptable for the mayor to be
[30:38] involved in a discussion on a matter that's pending with debate or discussion.
[30:44] So question on that on the 3.7 is those say subject to the limitations of the mayor's voting,
[30:51] the mayoral voting imposed by the RCW? Is that not clear?
[30:57] Well, yeah, that's still the RCW and NL.
[31:02] Yeah, that would key somebody in to take a look at it,
[31:05] that it's only in the end.
[31:06] But even in that case, with a tie, the mayor would not have.
[31:15] So then it references 5.3, which is also the mayor,
[31:21] a mayor shall only vote where there is a tie,
[31:24] where there is a tie vote between health and members
[31:27] with respect to matters other than ordinances,
[31:29] is France or Revocation of Ransionized or License, which is basically right out of the
[31:36] RCW.
[31:36] Yeah, that's a copy of the RCW.
[31:38] Okay.
[31:38] So you just say we should copy that same verb up in the...
[31:41] That would be the easiest way to do it is just to copy the language from the RCW.
[31:45] Okay.
[31:45] So we'll have two spots in the...
[31:47] And it could be in both spots or we could take it out of one.
[31:49] Yeah, that's it.
[31:50] That's what I would say.
[31:51] Take 3.7 out.
[31:53] It's already mentioned below.
[31:56] Yeah.
[31:56] I have a question about in 1.7 the serial meeting we discussed this briefly public works.
[32:07] One of the, I guess, we did see public works of committee did see council rules maybe
[32:12] four months ago.
[32:14] It does seem like it's expanded a little bit, but my question is if this was brought back
[32:21] to multiple subcommittees, in your opinion, would that constitute a serial meeting?
[32:28] typical lawyer answer would be it depends right. I would say I think that there's a way to structure
[32:37] this where it wouldn't be considered a serial meeting and I just want to be careful about the way
[32:42] that we do that. We don't want to see happening is or what would be potentially problematic would be
[32:50] committee A reviews the document makes a bunch of edits to that document and then immediately passes
[32:58] is it on to committee B and committee B starts making a bunch of edits and communicating
[33:04] back and forth with A saying, oh, here's our edits to your edits. Now you're looking
[33:10] at a serial meeting and that would be a violation of the OPMA. Plus, you want to open up
[33:16] those committee meetings to the public. That would be the simplest fix is to be open to
[33:23] public but I understand there's pros and cons to doing that and so if you want to keep it the way
[33:29] it currently is I would probably want to break it up a little bit so you have committee A
[33:36] make whatever suggestion you know again because these are advisory committees they're not acting on
[33:42] behalf of all of you they're not a de facto council they could review the document and make
[33:50] recommendations to say committee A is recommending this version to the whole council that would get transmitted through staff to council.
[34:00] And then from that point, if we want to get comments from committee B, then it would go again through staff back out that way there's a record of recommendations and not not the
[34:13] Um, there's less of a concern about, you know, uh, why can't I talk right now?
[34:20] Uh, uh, deliberating, deliberating behind close groups.
[34:23] Yes, I guess just to quickly clarify.
[34:26] So if committee A made their recommendations and got it back to Mr.
[34:31] Meast or you as staff saying these were red lines, whatever got those back.
[34:36] And then you did whatever you wanted to with those and then gave them the committee B.
[34:41] I would recommend at that point that that staff share it with the whole council first set it out like these are the recommended recommended edits for whatever from this committee send it out.
[34:59] Don't respond to that then right so you get a copy for informational purposes and then we send it to the next.
[35:05] Can I expand that a little bit?
[35:12] Would that be true as well for any agenda item we talked about how to subcommittee?
[35:23] Are you talking about a document or are you just discussing and I'm talking about any.
[35:29] So we talked about this in the subcommittee as well that we didn't want to be in violation
[35:34] of something if we if we talk about something in the safety subcommittee and then you know a week later
[35:43] because I'm in that committee I bring it up at public works but I haven't talked to Mr. Misa about it.
[35:50] Are we then in violation because now we have five people.
[35:54] So we are talking about that like maybe we haven't been doing that correctly.
[35:58] he or her, well, the baby, we should do that start thinking about how we do that. So with
[36:03] my questions.
[36:05] Accessations are happening completely into there's different aspects. For instance,
[36:09] to a project, finances may be talking about the budget or something like that for a proposal.
[36:15] Safety is talking about a completely different aspect of it. That one doesn't concern me as much.
[36:21] Of course, you've also got cross-poloneiation between, you know, where you might have one
[36:26] and council member who's sitting on multiple committees,
[36:29] so they shouldn't be going to finance committee
[36:31] and then reporting everything that was discussed
[36:34] in finance over to public safety, right?
[36:37] Because that starts to look a little more serial
[36:38] in terms of.
[36:41] I think what you just mentioned is what's happening.
[36:43] Like we talk about something in like safety
[36:46] subcommittee meeting and they, and we decide,
[36:49] oh, you know what, public works will have to be involved
[36:51] in that project at the fire department
[36:53] or something like that.
[36:54] because we're going to put new concrete down.
[36:57] Okay, can we talk to public works about how the new concrete bay will be installed at the fire department?
[37:06] That's okay.
[37:08] Yeah.
[37:08] Okay, great.
[37:11] Any other questions, comments about the whole thing?
[37:18] Yes.
[37:19] Yeah, okay.
[37:20] Oh, as opposed to just what Mike said.
[37:23] Yes, as opposed to what Mike said.
[37:24] But yeah, I would say we either need to do a workshop
[37:29] or I have several things and I spent quite a bit last night
[37:35] looking at it so wouldn't mind making those comments
[37:38] and then we could just take notes on them and go from there.
[37:42] Okay, I'll start then.
[37:43] 2.4 study sessions, I think in those comments
[37:48] there's a parenthesis that says during a study session
[37:52] that it's open to the public, but then from that point on, we don't give any direction
[37:57] to the public about whether they get to comment or what they get to do in that meeting.
[38:04] I just think we would need to give a little bit more direction about whether the public
[38:09] is supposed to just listen, they get to make comments, whatever, so that's 2.4. 4.5, department
[38:23] So I'm just kind of wondering, this has been something I've wondered for a while, so I'm glad we're kind of here.
[38:30] In 4.5, I was just wondering, it's all about appointments for department heads and senior staff positions, and it lists the staff positions that we're going to make these decisions about.
[38:46] the Administrator, Police, Chief, Finance, Director, City Clerk are all mayor appointed.
[38:51] So I guess I'm wondering, is this a city of cheesy thing that we have chosen just to
[39:00] make my oral appointments for just these senior staff positions or why aren't all the senior
[39:07] staff positions mentioned?
[39:10] So I guess my concern was, there's no direction for any other senior staff
[39:17] positions. So are we going to have direction for other senior staff positions because these are our rules
[39:23] of procedures that's going to be another point under this or something but I think we've left out
[39:29] all the other senior staff positions. These ones that are listed are in the Chimney Municipal Code,
[39:38] require appointment and confirmation. Okay. The one that's missing is actually me, is the city
[39:44] Okay, so that would need to be added.
[39:47] So I guess then to expand that would just be, do we want to amend that to include more staff positions?
[39:56] Or are we fine with the ones that we have?
[39:58] Just talking out loud, I'll move on, 4.6 commission reports just had a question about the reporting and
[40:11] and staff reports, and commission reports that says the primary staff liaison director or
[40:17] assigned staff member for each city board.
[40:19] I'm assuming that is that are we talking about the chair there or someone else?
[40:24] So it would be general, like for example, the park sport.
[40:28] Uh-huh.
[40:30] Derrick Curley is the staff liaison onto the park sport.
[40:35] So when he does his staff report, he would also bring me up to speed on park sports.
[40:41] So a couple of times, you remember how he brought the park's rules.
[40:45] So that would, yeah, okay, fall on it, okay, great, I just wanted to double check that
[40:51] a chair didn't have to give a report after everything.
[40:54] So although that's down below, he'll be a little bit, so just wondering, okay, 6.2 B item,
[41:02] I'm trying citizen comment, just thinking this is a pretty big change for us and the way that we do citizen comment, I'm in favor of it.
[41:18] I like it. I like the way that we would do public comment for a specific agenda item, so I think that's helpful and I think it helps us stage our main to a topic.
[41:26] So I like that, but I think we should, as we, if we decide that that's going to be part
[41:36] of our rules and procedures, I think we need to do a good job of just communicating that
[41:41] during the City Council meeting that we're going to be taking citizen comments about the
[41:46] resolution or about the ordinance, and we begin to kind of roll that out in a way that people
[41:51] will understand. Oh, I get to comment at this time, not just at the beginning of the meeting.
[41:57] So just thinking about that.
[42:01] Then 8.4 talked about rejection for public. Yeah.
[42:07] I know you're real quick while we're here on page 13.
[42:13] At the end of 6.2 set paragraph 4,
[42:18] This is just something that Mr. Mieson, I wanted to make sure you were aware of what it says is for passage of a resolution requires an affirmative vote of at least a majority of the whole council.
[42:34] So that would mean even if you don't have all seven of you here, you would still need four votes to pass a resolution.
[42:42] that's not required under Washington law.
[42:46] Typically, it depends on the city, but typically,
[42:49] it's a majority of those present for a resolution.
[42:54] Unless it has to do with authorizing an expenditure of money
[42:57] or if it's an ordinance, an ordinance always requires
[43:00] a majority of your whole body.
[43:03] So, I just wanted to point that out.
[43:05] I don't know if that was intentional or not,
[43:07] but I think that would be a change
[43:10] from how I believe we've done it in the past, where it's been a majority of those presidents.
[43:15] Could we just specify the majority of quorum?
[43:19] Right, so if we had resolutions, we could say the majority of quorum.
[43:23] Yeah,
[43:27] that's a big change.
[43:29] Thank you.
[43:30] Yeah.
[43:36] Oh, yeah, I think 8.4, we talked about, get down there, I see.
[43:55] I think one, first of all, one of the comments, I thought it was interesting that there's a lot of language just about the planning commission, and we're just wondering if that needs to be broadened to all the commissions because we eventually might have more of the art commission, but there's just a lot of conversation just specifically.
[44:17] about the planning commission and was just kind of wondering if it might be good to edit that to include so that whenever a commission has anything for us that it's it's any commission that's that this is the type of action that the council will take with any commission recommendations, not just the planning commission.
[44:39] Then next under rejection,
[44:43] sorry, up above at 8.3, we said the council may adopt a planning
[44:48] permission recommendation by majority vote at any regular special meeting.
[44:52] But then for rejection, we didn't put anything in there about their need to be a majority
[44:58] vote by the council for approval.
[45:00] So, I just felt like if the adoption is going to be by majority vote, then probably the rejection needs to be by majority vote as well. And then that would bring up as well, Mr. Capon, whether that needs to be of the whole quorum or just those present or all, I think that brings up all that as well.
[45:26] 12.1. I was wondering it looks like we switched parks and racks to a new subcommittee. So, I'm just wondering if we're, it's just, I'm just wondering because I go to the public work subcommittee and parks and rack has always been in that subcommittee.
[45:49] So if it looks like we're changing it to a different subcommittee, it's not under the public works and utilities and it looks like it's under general government now.
[46:00] So just wondering if we're wanting to make that switch or maybe we would also talk to Mr. Curly about that, which when he feels like best would suit him.
[46:13] So, just a thought there because it was a change and then 12.3 was all about the chair
[46:25] at the first committee meeting of the year, new council members will nominate and vote
[46:28] for who will be committee chair and all that and rotating them every year.
[46:37] I would rather keep the chair for a longer amount of time.
[46:41] I think that's helpful for the leadership of that subcommittee meeting to have the chair there for a longer amount of time and for us, the city council members as well, to be in attendance to a subcommittee meeting for subcommittee for a longer amount of time.
[46:56] I know for me when I was new, it took me at least a year to figure out what was going on in the department that I was the subcommittee at.
[47:08] And then if you're telling me, right, when I feel like I get my feet,
[47:12] you're going to switch me to another subcommittee, to me, that just seems a little challenging.
[47:17] I'd like us to see us have a little bit longer tenure there so that we're making good decisions.
[47:23] And I also think there are certain people that have good wisdom for certain subcommittees
[47:31] that are really good to have in those subcommittees because that's their field of expertise, so that's what makes them really good in that subcommittee because they understand how all of the stuff in that subcommittee works and the parts of the pieces of that of our city works.
[47:51] And so I think it's good to have them in those subcommittees as well.
[47:55] so I'll stop there. Let's do that.
[48:02] I think someone's taking notes. Are you taking notes?
[48:07] We are. Yes. There's nothing else. It's all reported so you can re-list later.
[48:12] I also remember right else. I guess I will go next. I tried it. I saw some of the same things
[48:17] Mr. Postuma did. Under 1.1, there's not really a discussion about some committees. I just would
[48:27] like clarity on how subcommittee meetings would be. Are they open to the public or are they not as
[48:34] there are the last section of 1.2 says that the chair can call recess I think there was one instance
[48:42] recently a citizen I don't think was listening to them here to stop talking and I said I'm going to
[48:50] make a motion to recess I think I think council should have that ability to to call for recess and
[48:56] there may be other reasons to call the process.
[48:59] Under 1.4, the request to be,
[49:05] if attendance is not possible,
[49:08] members of council should contact the mayor prior to a meeting,
[49:11] maybe just to request being excused.
[49:14] I don't, you know, there may be personal reasons
[49:16] why somebody can't be here.
[49:18] I think our request is sufficient.
[49:21] I think we all know what our meetings are
[49:23] and really is anybody not present.
[49:25] So,
[49:29] similarly, on top of page two, state the reason I would probably scratch that.
[49:34] I could talk briefly about 1.7 already.
[49:39] I think if under 2.2 on page four, if we are going to call special meeting,
[49:46] I think we should disclose my answer to who called the special meeting.
[49:51] I think we've done that in the past.
[49:57] Under page 5, 2.7 rolling into top of page 6 the workshop may be scheduled immediately to precede a regular council meeting on the same day. That's tough. That's one of our finance committee meeting is so I would ask a workshop not to be scheduled at our finance committee meeting time.
[50:22] same, I guess, recessed thing and 3.8, again, just enabling council to be able to call recess
[50:29] under 4.2 proclamation. I'm not sure where this definition originated from, but we were talking
[50:37] when we were talking about freedom, we were talking about, you know, is this a adequate time to do
[50:41] a proclamation? Again, I'm not sure if it falls in there perfectly, but I don't know how that
[50:48] Again, I didn't pull this definition, but my point is if the proclamation definition
[50:54] could probably be aligned to an RCW or a lab. And maybe it is. And maybe it is.
[51:01] Under section 4.4, page 8, a maximum of two informational items shall be scheduled for regular meeting.
[51:09] I recall instances in the past when we're going through collective bargaining agreements where we
[51:16] traditionally put those out as informational items before they are brought before us and I think
[51:22] there's times that there may be two or maybe three. I know we have more than three unions so my
[51:28] point there is I don't I don't want to be I guess I don't want to have the maximum of informational
[51:33] items I think if there's a need for five then there should be five so that's I think that's a simple
[51:40] scratch, trying to go quick here. On the
[51:55] top of page 10, maybe it just didn't make sense to me,
[51:59] but an exemption is not counted as a yes vote, which is understood within the second part of that,
[52:06] and may prevent a matter from passing even if no council members vote against it. I just didn't
[52:11] understand that second part. I mean I think the first part of that sentence is fine.
[52:21] Is that is that a Robert's rules? Of course that just.
[52:27] Well I'm sorry councilor were we yet? I'm sorry I was page 10. 5.2. 5.2 so that would mean if a
[52:34] majority abstained and everyone else voted as yes it something wouldn't pass.
[52:44] Does that make sense?
[52:46] So in this situation, if five people abstained, if two people voted, yes, it wouldn't pass.
[52:52] Correct.
[52:55] Okay.
[52:56] It
[53:00] makes sense now.
[53:01] Thank you.
[53:01] Yeah.
[53:04] I don't know if that's an RCW or if that's a, a Robert's rules.
[53:09] Robert's rules.
[53:09] I don't know if that is.
[53:12] It's a common sense rule.
[53:14] It does make sense, but I'm sure it's been, I don't know that I've seen more than, more
[53:23] than one abstention.
[53:23] But okay, yeah, that makes sense.
[53:26] I just like I said, I couldn't think of how that would make sense, but how you put it,
[53:32] I get it under
[53:37] when we start getting into section 5.5, I think that could probably be
[53:43] trimmed up by just referencing RCW 4223 and 4236 versus restating the RCW because those
[53:51] are amended.
[53:54] on that, too, while we're here on 5.5C,
[53:59] so as the city attorney reviews the council
[54:02] agenda, and it says flags any potential conflicts.
[54:11] I think, primarily, that should be you guys flagging
[54:14] your own conflicts. I mean, by the state law, it is your
[54:16] responsibility. By seeing something,
[54:35] All certainly this is just conflicts of interest on action items and stuff. Okay.
[54:48] But if there's something obvious, I know you work for a certain company and I see it coming
[54:53] on the agenda, yeah, that's going to raise a flag for me that I would bring up.
[54:59] Just back to that one too, I think it's interesting that if you're recruising yourself then you
[55:05] probably need to leave the room and it needs to be done ahead of time.
[55:10] I think that is, we haven't really done it that way, so I think that's just a note that
[55:16] if we're going to keep that in, we need to operate in that way as well.
[55:19] That
[55:23] has to your point that has happened in some of the hearings.
[55:27] Yeah, I'm thinking about Black Hawk Ridge, I think it was.
[55:32] So that I heard back on.
[55:36] Yes.
[55:38] Under page 11 now, 106, 6.1.
[55:43] I guess very similar to tonight.
[55:45] I think a council member can bring a resolution forward.
[55:49] I think it's highly recommended that the resolution is vetted through a subcommittee, but I do think as the mayor has the opportunity to bring a resolution forward, I think council members should also.
[56:03] And are you saying instead of a majority of four?
[56:06] Okay so instead of needing a majority of four you would like it just to be any council member can bring it forward right with with the preface that it should be routed you know obviously there's it depends and there's certain circumstances but I think any council member can bring before us
[56:23] I think it's a professional courtesy to run it through a subcommittee.
[56:29] However, that's captured.
[56:31] Okay.
[56:33] Near
[56:36] 6.4 sponsorship.
[56:41] I don't know. I think we're all up here for the city.
[56:44] I didn't really. That one didn't do anything for me.
[56:49] Sponsoring a bill.
[56:51] I think a lot of the resolutions or ordinances that come forward.
[56:55] they come out of the subcommittee. It's not generally an individual. And if we start
[57:00] getting to the point of, well, I want a sponsor bill. We use sign this. We use sign this
[57:03] that pretty soon. Yeah, four people sign it. Now, where are we at? Our favorite serial
[57:09] meeting, right? So, anyways, I would probably lean towards scratching that.
[57:25] Jumping ahead
[57:25] with giving people priority. I think if somebody comes to council, they sign up, we should probably
[57:32] listen to them on sign-up sheet. I don't think we should stack the deck and say, well,
[57:37] Shelley, you live in the city and like you live in the county. Would you like to go first or second?
[57:42] I just don't think we should give preferential treatment. If you're coming to council to give comment,
[57:48] there's an order to it, and we shouldn't stack in my opinion. And then the preferred name,
[57:55] I've always heard of the legal name.
[57:57] I mean, everybody who gave testimony today was,
[58:00] this is my name and I live in Jeanne.
[58:02] I'm just on a comment with that.
[58:04] If you're giving testimony via Zoom,
[58:08] we've had people in the past that have used fake names
[58:10] and fake addresses to place themselves here within Jeanne,
[58:14] and then to be disruptive for our meetings.
[58:16] But I am with you on, there's some real gray area
[58:20] with when we can limit or prioritize.
[58:24] But as far as names go, I don't think that's really as big of a deal because people are going to tell you whatever they want.
[58:30] Yeah, and I think we've heard tonight somebody just said, hey, I live on the street. I think that's perfectly fine.
[58:35] Or if there's a really concerned about, I don't want Jack to know what city I live in, I live in Spokane County.
[58:41] I mean, I think we would be pretty open to that.
[58:44] I don't, I don't know that we've ever forced somebody to say, I want your exact address in a parking building, you know, whatever.
[58:49] So, anyways, the entire section 8, I guess I want to, I guess, clarify so that I did plan that there was a lot of stuff on planning commission.
[59:02] And I've, you know, I've sat on planning commission for six years prior to council, I was chair, and I've been serving as the liaison profile.
[59:10] There was a lot of discussion to hear that kind of just raised my eyebrow, but from my
[59:16] take on things, planning commission is a advisory commission, their advisory to council.
[59:22] I've seen multiple instances when I've been on planning commission and also on council
[59:28] where council is the final, they take the recommendation and then they make their action.
[59:34] They're not always proving it the entire same way.
[59:38] Sometimes they approve it and they modify it.
[59:41] Sometimes a recommendation comes to us and it turns into a developer's agreement.
[59:45] So there are many different avenues that a planning commission recommendation can yield
[59:54] that that's not caught here.
[59:56] And I guess what I'm getting at is I just
[1:00:00] I think that the nature of these procedures, my idea was focused on what we do in here, in this room, at these meetings. Not necessarily every subcommittee, how we accept those things, what we do with those things. And then the other point to note is, if there are procedural, if there's, if it's running through SEPA, there are SEPA by statute, by WACC, how much time we have, that's not captured. For the venues decisions.
[1:00:29] One of the most important things, in my opinion, that the Planning Commission does is their
[1:00:34] quasad judicial, they post the hearing.
[1:00:37] That is invaluable to us when they do that.
[1:00:42] To say that we can't have a council member present is odd to me at that hearing.
[1:00:49] So, again, I think 8.8, I don't know, lot in some of these other ones, but in my opinion I would probably strike.
[1:01:02] I would make the emphasis of these rules, again, what we didn't adhere, not what we take from any subcommittee.
[1:01:10] That makes sense.
[1:01:11] So you would strike all of eight?
[1:01:13] I would strike all of eight.
[1:01:14] Again, I think we can neck down a lot of these rules to, again, what we focus on here as council.
[1:01:24] You turn the lever. Why is it squeal me?
[1:01:31] I don't know. I'm sorry.
[1:01:34] There's only to adjust my micr.
[1:01:37] It's not just you. It's the whole time. I don't know.
[1:01:40] It's everyone.
[1:01:42] We talked a little bit about, on page 1920, the priority of people, their speaker priority.
[1:01:49] Again, I would shy away from that.
[1:01:53] One thing that I thought was a little odd is that we limit the total number.
[1:01:59] I can tell you, I mean, I think maybe Marco's doing was here also during COVID.
[1:02:04] There were times that I guarantee you there were more than 30 minutes taken on.
[1:02:07] And so I think again, if somebody's going to take the time to come to our council meeting to speak for whatever the two or three minutes, it should be up.
[1:02:16] And it fits two hours. Then that's what we all signed up for. It should be two miles.
[1:02:22] So I wouldn't put any caps on.
[1:02:25] I think there's two spots where there's some caps for the laps. Yeah, the 20 minute. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:02:31] under 9.3, the 30-minute cab, and there was a 20-minute cab under 9.5.
[1:02:35] So I'm going to interrupt this for a second please.
[1:02:38] So we also changed it to three minutes instead of two minutes.
[1:02:41] I think in most cases, so I thought that was a big decision too.
[1:02:44] I did like that three minutes.
[1:02:48] I'm a pretty comfortable public speaker and two minutes is hard.
[1:02:53] So once if you're not a comfortable public speaker by the time you get to a minute and a half,
[1:02:58] you finally feel comfortable enough to say what you want to say and now you're done. So I like
[1:03:04] three minutes. I agree. I think three minutes is good. I will try to wrap up very quickly. Number 10,
[1:03:12] page 22, filling counsel vacancies. Last precedent, it's always been the mayor's decision. I would lean
[1:03:18] towards making it the mayor's decision about the issue. Generally, the mayor finds the most
[1:03:25] appropriate applicant generally interviews several and then brings before us through that confirmation.
[1:03:32] That's how it's always worked in the past and there's there's other reasons that maybe aren't
[1:03:38] stated here why there's a vacancy right somebody takes a job in with the city sickness whatever there's
[1:03:44] other reasons that are stated here so my preference would be to be passed precedent and leave it with
[1:03:52] the mayor's decision on confirmation number 11 I know there's been some
[1:03:58] discussion of get that our agenda's out earlier earlier I know a lot of
[1:04:02] that probably plans on your shoulders I've always thought Friday has been a
[1:04:06] decent deadline if we want to move it up to Thursday obviously we're we're
[1:04:11] probably looking at you for it by so I'm not one.
[1:04:15] Is that the current?
[1:04:22] I'm
[1:04:23] by the clock. Excuse me. I did not know that was the standard for a year. So I never mind. I'll
[1:04:31] scratch that comment.
[1:04:37] Getting into council subcommittees or council committees. I tend to agree with
[1:04:46] Mark shuffling people every year. I think there's efficiencies in keeping people in where their
[1:04:53] strengths are. It's always been the chair who sets the meeting schedule. It's been like that,
[1:05:02] I think, for decades now. And some of the responsibilities, I think, that are in here,
[1:05:13] well, specifically in finance to defer responsive cut responsibilities from finance,
[1:05:20] outside I think I'm a fan with I think if it needs to go to my hands it should go to my ask
[1:05:24] committee. Same comment on parks.
[1:05:33] That's it. Thank you.
[1:05:38] I just want to make a question really quick is the portion of 10 to the filling of vacancy?
[1:05:47] Is that the language in the RCW or do we have different in our code currently?
[1:05:53] I double check that today the RCW does say the non-photos and non-photos and it's 42-12-7-0, which is what we call over a 12-0 bike power.
[1:06:16] It looks like it's number one on the RCW.
[1:06:19] And it says it will be filled by five accounts.
[1:06:26] So I don't know what the past, but I've never been here.
[1:06:28] And I don't know if any error kind of nominated somebody here.
[1:06:33] I don't know.
[1:06:37] But typically you need to have any money.
[1:06:39] I'd say there are one position.
[1:06:42] Staying in the remaining members of heaven by each and what my person.
[1:06:49] And again, and I may be miss interpreting this.
[1:06:52] but I'm saying council still points does that confirmation of point but
[1:06:57] generally as precedent has been the mayor has found that in which
[1:07:03] but is that
[1:07:04] a requirement that the mayor finds the individual to put up and then we like
[1:07:10] bet the nominee like is or is that just how it's been done previously?
[1:07:15] I think for I think it's for a couple of reasons one would be how would we all we'd be in that
[1:07:19] serial meeting scenario again right if we're going to interview three candidates for
[1:07:24] a council they could see. Now we have three people, three people, three, you know what I mean?
[1:07:30] It I think it'd be much easier for the mayor to decipher through the candidates and then come
[1:07:35] before us for confirmation appointment. Is there an application process that like let's say
[1:07:41] somebody gets a job somewhere else and we have a seat vacated because I haven't been present for
[1:07:45] this happening either. So I'm trying to wrap my head around how this would work. Could it not be then
[1:07:51] somebody on the council's like hey I think this person in our community would be a good fit for
[1:07:55] this here mayor can you vet this person like or is there an application process and it's like no
[1:08:00] we directly do the application so because I didn't fill out an application. Did you get a point
[1:08:05] it? No I'm saying to run like you you you applied a run but there's no actual like application we're
[1:08:11] not vetted we're just put on the ballot. That's the most qualified person. Yeah so I guess Doug
[1:08:17] Nick singles a past council member here. I think the reason he moved on is he moved to Arizona
[1:08:23] wherever he ended up moving. There was an allocation process cover letter resume and the selection
[1:08:30] process was vetted by the mayor.
[1:08:35] So you do have I'm sorry you do have an application on the city
[1:08:41] website for city commission position. Yeah we're talking about council, we're not talking about
[1:08:46] commissions. I'm sorry, city council. Yeah, city council. Yeah.
[1:08:52] All right. And we have as a body helped with interviewing, like you've had
[1:08:59] finalists for the city administrator role. And we got to help participate in
[1:09:03] that. And we didn't violate any part of that where, right? But we were still
[1:09:10] able to engage and give you feedback for the final, the finalist that we got
[1:09:15] to help confirm.
[1:09:18] I don't know if this would be that much different.
[1:09:20] Yeah, that's an RCW interpretation question.
[1:09:25] It'll probably need to get back to you on that.
[1:09:28] Yeah, I mean, I think that there's, there's a lot of work still that you could have.
[1:09:33] I think it's how, how you get to the point, the appointment being made,
[1:09:38] but it's ultimately the appointment that has to be made by Nazi.
[1:09:44] But whether the mayor has a role in that process, how do you get there?
[1:09:49] I would imagine the mayor has to leave mine, but she's not being good fit.
[1:09:53] She probably said some line.
[1:09:57] Just nobody leave, okay?
[1:10:00] You know, if we're I guess if we're concerned as the council about the vetting process,
[1:10:06] we could open it up for two weeks, like sometimes you post a job, right?
[1:10:10] it's posted for two weeks. But I guess from my perspective, I think it would be easier for the
[1:10:17] mayor to bet those individuals. Maybe she's been in with a few staff as well. And then the
[1:10:23] point. My concern is historically council and not those of us sitting here necessarily, but
[1:10:30] historically council has often relinquished some of their own power over certain things
[1:10:38] for the sake of ease and expediency.
[1:10:41] And I want to make sure it's not what we're doing here either,
[1:10:43] is that we're not removing any sort of agency
[1:10:46] that council may have in some of these proceedings
[1:10:48] because it's easier that way.
[1:10:52] That's a fair comment, but sometimes we,
[1:10:55] if we were feeling a vacancy,
[1:10:57] we'd also want to wait three months to fill the vacancy.
[1:11:00] I just want to make sure that we're not limiting it
[1:11:02] to who's allowed to, or like who can necessarily nominate.
[1:11:05] If, according to RCW,
[1:11:07] the government body has that ability as well.
[1:11:10] Yeah, I don't know why we couldn't nominate people too.
[1:11:14] And there is a time window.
[1:11:16] In the RCW, we have the vacancy.
[1:11:18] It has to be built in 90 days.
[1:11:20] Otherwise, it gets kicked up to the county commission to fill it on our behalf.
[1:11:24] My only point is that there was a vacancy.
[1:11:26] I would hope that we could fill that vacancy in 30 days.
[1:11:29] Oh, for sure.
[1:11:30] That's fine.
[1:11:34] Any other comments?
[1:11:36] I have one. I'll go quick.
[1:11:37] The 12.3 talks about the chair of subcommittees.
[1:11:43] I think if you asked all seven of us up here, you get seven different definitions of what the roles and responsibilities are of a subcommittee chair.
[1:11:52] I think it would be wise for us to pass that out, maybe not right now, but figure out what, I don't know, is that person just the point of contact?
[1:12:02] what powers does that person have over the other two in that committee? I think that's pretty important for us to figure out.
[1:12:14] Well, I think it kind of depends on what subcommittee you're into. I mean, generally speaking, the chair of the finance committee is going to sit in the office.
[1:12:22] I mean, that's a role that's specific to that chair for that subcommittee.
[1:12:27] Yeah, I guess I was thinking more of like what what all four committees have in common like things from all four committees make it to our agenda.
[1:12:37] Can a chair pull something from the agenda? Probably not, right? So those sorts of things. I'm not talking about edge cases where it just applies to one.
[1:12:48] Again, from my perspective, the chair generally schedules the meeting, calls the meeting.
[1:12:55] If, but sorry, but that's what I'm saying that that's your opinion and I think all seven of us have different opinions on what the chair should be.
[1:13:04] So that's been your experience.
[1:13:06] So what's what's your opinion on what the chair should do? I'm just one of seven as well. I want to hear from the other five.
[1:13:11] What I'm asking you, what do you think?
[1:13:13] Just list all the roles in response, but I don't have that prepared for you. I'm saying this is all seven.
[1:13:18] Jack, what do you think the chair?
[1:13:21] Well, I'm not necessarily going to weigh on what the chair should do because I haven't
[1:13:24] been a chair.
[1:13:25] And I feel like what you've outlined is, I mean, it's pretty simple control of the agenda
[1:13:29] calling the meeting general logistics and stuff, but I do think it is a good point to have
[1:13:34] those commonalities laid out so that we know who's, like, this is the role of the chair.
[1:13:40] So if you have the mood that's filling in, they know what's expected of them as well.
[1:13:43] It just helps with a little continuity between chairs and when we have new rotating chairs,
[1:13:47] There's that hand off, but I feel like this whole conversation and a lot of these changes
[1:13:54] that we're asking for, this would be better handled in a workshop format.
[1:13:59] I feel like our meeting this evening has kind of just taken on its own head of just really
[1:14:04] focused on this and we've been a lot of time on this, whereas a actual workshop format
[1:14:09] I think would be a better use of our time with discussing these, and that's my two-sense.
[1:14:16] Second.
[1:14:17] It turns with that. This is an action item, so I don't think we're going to vote, but I'll just say
[1:14:22] that has been heard, and we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is
[1:14:30] Resolution 26-064, which is an action item. Chief Yura,
[1:14:37] everybody a little stretch. Oh thanks for sending me out that yeah I'm back
[1:14:44] again to bring this resolution forward. This has been duoleagle. I'm on the
[1:14:49] question that you guys approve this resolution and with the requirement that
[1:14:54] we do send that email to Axon to opt out of that debt sharing portion of the
[1:14:58] contract, so
[1:15:00] Any questions? I may be able to answer that if not. Um, yeah, so I, I saw the, it says an updated contract is on the packet, but I don't see the actual email. So I don't know if Mike, you had a chance to draft. Thanks. I know that was what we voted on to see before we voted tonight.
[1:15:24] Yeah, I sent me a review and it's it's a simple just
[1:15:30] Yep.
[1:15:32] It'll be.
[1:15:41] Is that mean it's it's drafted.
[1:15:45] Not until it's approved. Well, we sent.
[1:15:47] We won't send that email until we sign the contract.
[1:15:51] But when the contract is accepted.
[1:15:54] I would recommend that's.
[1:15:59] If you want to improve this, I would be recommend that you move, ask this and do a contingent
[1:16:08] of on the email being sent.
[1:16:10] Can we see the email, though, I guess?
[1:16:14] Or can I just ask a quick kind of on the same, I mean, the same line of the email in the
[1:16:21] actual verbiage on axon's website.
[1:16:24] It tells you exactly what to say in the email.
[1:16:27] It says exactly who to send it to and it says,
[1:16:29] all you have to say is we revoke our consent.
[1:16:32] It's that simple and it just has to come from the city
[1:16:34] at the time that we're doing the contract.
[1:16:36] So I'm not sure we necessarily need to see it drafted
[1:16:42] right this second to head,
[1:16:43] but we need to know that that's contingent
[1:16:46] upon passage of this.
[1:16:48] I gave this email.
[1:16:50] I'm looking at the emails.
[1:16:59] So
[1:17:03] you send it to council member Bialock.
[1:17:06] And you know, yes, we log in and she votes just saying, but how we just simply send another email.
[1:17:15] Okay, so if we pass this tonight with that contingency, how do we verify that that happened?
[1:17:23] Oh, yes.
[1:17:25] We'll give you a copy of the email.
[1:17:27] So a BCC council kind of thing?
[1:17:29] Well, probably what we'll do is we'll send it.
[1:17:32] And then we'll give you a copy.
[1:17:34] We'll just make a copy and send you the PDF or whatever,
[1:17:39] rather than do a BCC.
[1:17:40] Okay.
[1:17:42] And I ask a question.
[1:17:43] Then if you're just going to give us a PDF,
[1:17:45] how do we verify that it was actually sent?
[1:17:47] If we are not like because I can send a PDF and tell somebody
[1:17:50] that it was sent in a different email.
[1:17:51] I'm just wondering how do we confirm that?
[1:17:55] Can I ask the question?
[1:17:57] Why aren't we verifying the tasks of the city staff?
[1:18:01] But we will be sure that you are notified in whatever capacity it needs to happen.
[1:18:07] Whether that's appropriately documented through city council or whether we can just copy you on an email.
[1:18:15] that just like we copy people on a resolution, so that's contingent, if that's a contingency,
[1:18:25] it will happen. That's generally how it always happens.
[1:18:29] Yeah, certainly.
[1:18:41] Any other questions?
[1:18:43] Just maybe a comment. Chief, could you explain to us the importance of axon and the things
[1:18:49] we had one person recommend that we not have, so could you explain to us why this is so
[1:18:54] important for all the cows. Yes. So axon is basically the vendor for all of our body cameras,
[1:19:01] our digital events.com and tasers. So it's a five-year, 60-month contract and they update these
[1:19:08] things regularly through the contract and they'll cost a no additional cost to us. If we have a
[1:19:14] body cam or that break, so it gets submerged in water or whatever, we have a new one within 24
[1:19:18] hours. All the taser upgrades are included in those things, which typically we would have to pay
[1:19:25] for out a pocket to include up to five taser instructors that they include in this. They give us
[1:19:31] the breacheriality training kits with all this package and so forth. So there's quite a lot that comes
[1:19:37] with this. It is very important that we continue to run body cameras for a number of reasons.
[1:19:44] Why do you believe body camera footage is important for each of our officers?
[1:19:50] Oh my gosh, I didn't come prepared for that lengthy answer.
[1:19:54] We review body camera on a regular basis to ensure quality control for everything we do
[1:19:59] even though I'm not or we're not on scene for public disclosure requests.
[1:20:04] It gives a transparency for people to see what we do.
[1:20:07] We are advocates for body cameras. We like having them.
[1:20:11] It definitely shows the transparency between us and the citizens and everything that we do throughout the our work shifts.
[1:20:21] Any other questions?
[1:20:24] Thank you.
[1:20:25] Thank you.
[1:20:26] Is there a question?
[1:20:27] There are no other questions.
[1:20:31] I'd make a motion to approve resolution F512 with the contingency.
[1:20:39] and to opt out of the ACERG. Second.
[1:20:45] There's a motion and a second for approval of resolution F512 with the contingency to opt out of data sharing.
[1:20:54] That was in favor. I have to.
[1:20:57] Those opposed? Or of singing? All right. Resolution F512 passes. Moving on to resolution F513.
[1:21:06] three. Director Ferguson.
[1:21:11] Good evening. Resolution 513 is for a sales
[1:21:16] agreement with Smith and Loveless or purchase a by replacement Pistachritt
[1:21:20] screw conveyor. This is an item that was originally installed in 1994 with the
[1:21:26] original waste bar treatment plant construction. So it's 26 years old. It lives in a
[1:21:30] very corrosive environment and is well exceeded its lifespan. So we're looking
[1:21:36] and to upgrade the out of this budgeted item for 2026.
[1:21:41] And so we're asking for approval for the mayor
[1:21:44] to sign the sales agreement.
[1:21:45] And then the sales of that part of the purchase
[1:21:48] of that product still have any questions?
[1:21:50] I'd be glad to answer them.
[1:21:52] Yeah, I had a quick question.
[1:21:54] Yeah.
[1:21:55] In the documents, it looked like there were quotes
[1:21:58] for two different prices, for two different.
[1:22:00] There were.
[1:22:01] Yeah.
[1:22:02] What's the difference in those?
[1:22:03] Because it's like a $30,000 price difference.
[1:22:05] lower prices for a ferrous metal, which is consistent with what we have, it's, you know,
[1:22:09] corrosive in the environment we have, the other one is stainless steel. We've done a
[1:22:14] really good job and tried very hard to upgrade. Most of our equipment is stainless steel over
[1:22:18] the years with anticipation that we'll get probably a 30 or 40% lifespan increase or a
[1:22:24] little bit of additional costs. So, dollar wise, it would pan out to be probably a 50-year
[1:22:29] item. If we did a 40-year item at least, if we did this versus another 20-year, it should
[1:22:34] been about 20-year replacement we've had to push it down the room so we get at least double
[1:22:38] live out of it I anticipate.
[1:22:41] Any other questions? Great question. Your honor. We discussed this at
[1:22:45] Public Works also discussed that the San Seal option I would make a motion for approval of F-513.
[1:22:52] Second. Motion in a second to approve resolution F-513, those in favor.
[1:23:00] No abstinence. So resolution F513 passes. Director Rouse. For resolution F515, a lodging tax
[1:23:11] disbursement for EWU homecoming and CMA. Yes, thank you. Resolution 515, the lodging tax
[1:23:24] committee had met to review two proposals that came our way. One was with Crave TV for $10,000.
[1:23:35] The committee is recommending that we do not fund that do not fund Crave TV.
[1:23:43] And the other one is for CMA for EWU Homecoming Street Dance. It's $8,000. This is
[1:23:51] we have done in the past and the lodging tax committee has recommended that we fully fund that.
[1:23:59] Is there any questions,
[1:24:03] comments? I mean, I'm on lodging tax committee. I'm in a scene from the
[1:24:07] vote, because I'm also in CMA, but part of the we're working with EWU for the homecoming dance,
[1:24:16] and so part of that is taking on the cost of the street closure this year, so that's why it's a little
[1:24:20] sense of that it's been and are concerned with the Crave TV as we just didn't really have a lot
[1:24:25] of information to really verify how it was going to benefit the city and what you know I guess a
[1:24:33] real accurate data on how that would work. So that's why we recommended not approving that one.
[1:24:44] What's Crave TV? It was an application for a marketing proposal to
[1:24:52] highlight cheney through it was advertising yeah so it was they have a show
[1:25:01] kind of like to feature the city and so they would I think one of the
[1:25:08] celebrities for that show is like a celebrity chef in the area that would come
[1:25:12] to the town and pick out three different places to highlight in on their show
[1:25:18] and they were making claims that they could drive more people into the city of
[1:25:24] Cheney. But when we reviewed the math and how they came up with that a lot of it
[1:25:31] just didn't make sense. It was they were claiming to bring 30,000 people into
[1:25:37] the city of Cheney by doing this type of show. So yeah.
[1:25:42] Yeah. Thank you.
[1:25:46] It's their motion.
[1:25:49] So yeah, okay, go ahead.
[1:25:51] Second.
[1:25:52] There's a motion and a second to approve resolution.
[1:25:56] F515.
[1:25:58] Those in favor.
[1:26:00] Bye.
[1:26:01] And post obscene.
[1:26:05] Right.
[1:26:06] That brings us to amended item.
[1:26:10] I'm 26-07-0, which is resolution F-5-1-7.
[1:26:17] Director Schultz.
[1:26:18] Madam
[1:26:21] Mayor, Council.
[1:26:22] Appreciate the short notice on this amendment.
[1:26:26] A little back story on how we got to this point.
[1:26:29] So in 2019, the city signed an agreement with Petera for dark fiber lease and server room lease so that they could provide telecommunication to our citizens.
[1:26:41] Since then, Zipley has taken over Petera.
[1:26:44] Through that, there have been four amendments to the lease,
[1:26:47] to either extend the contract by a few months.
[1:26:51] I think the longest was to extend it a year.
[1:26:54] All those have expired.
[1:26:55] The last one expired on August 31st.
[1:26:58] Zipley was hoping to get out of the server room.
[1:27:01] Completely, they do have a separate building in town.
[1:27:03] They're going to move to.
[1:27:04] So the decision was made to extend then a new three-month lease,
[1:27:09] though an amendment to the lease, we increase the rate to cover the costs of that lease and by the end they say that they'll be out in their new facility.
[1:27:20] So we're willing to extend that.
[1:27:23] So our recommendation is that we approve the lease through that three months.
[1:27:27] There is a clause that with the help of Mike, we put in there that if they fail to do that, that they'll sign up for another year.
[1:27:34] to auto-renew.
[1:27:35] Auto-renew for you.
[1:27:38] Any questions?
[1:27:39] Any questions?
[1:27:40] Yeah.
[1:27:41] If the auto-renew, not that this will happen,
[1:27:45] But if it did, will we raise the rate again
[1:27:48] to add encouragement for them?
[1:27:50] I think so.
[1:27:51] At that time, we'll probably negotiate at that time.
[1:27:54] I highly doubt that they were the pretty motivated
[1:27:56] to get out.
[1:27:57] They have their new building, they have their fiber.
[1:27:59] That is just a matter of construction at this point.
[1:28:03] So and we are negotiating with them for the that'll be on the next council agenda is the the franchise ordinance the second third reading
[1:28:16] any other questions comments there are no other questions I want to commend Steve on getting them to sign this agreement collecting some back
[1:28:24] piece and getting a really good rate for so I would make a motion to approve F 517.
[1:28:33] Okay, there's a motion and a second to approve resolution F517, those in favor?
[1:28:39] All right.
[1:28:40] Any votes for abstaining?
[1:28:42] Okay.
[1:28:43] Thank you.
[1:28:45] Now we will move to item 26071, which is resolution F.
[1:28:52] You have a small resolution.
[1:28:56] Oh, you did.
[1:28:57] Yes.
[1:28:58] That's okay.
[1:28:59] That's right.
[1:29:01] resolution F518 is that the one you're talking about?
[1:29:04] Okay.
[1:29:06] Resolution F518, which is directly roughs.
[1:29:12] So resolution F518 is to get city-issued cell phones for the council members.
[1:29:21] This will help with a lot of public records requests that maybe a personal devices might be at risk.
[1:29:28] if you're looking up your work emails or our city emails on your personal devices.
[1:29:34] So to solve that, we felt it was probably best to get you city-issued cell phones.
[1:29:40] It roughly will cost around $30, $40 a month for those city-issued phones.
[1:29:45] Any questions?
[1:29:49] Is there a requirement?
[1:29:51] Thank you.
[1:29:52] question.
[1:29:54] It is a better trust. Yeah, it really is. Is it a requirement team?
[1:30:00] Have one. Yes. And use it. I don't think so. You're the council. Wow. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say it is. I just make sure that you're using your city issued computer when checking emails and not a personal device or forwarding emails to your personal device. I just want to make sure that you are all protected when it comes to public records requests.
[1:30:25] So the resolution passed. There's still the option for us to opt in or opt out. Yes.
[1:30:30] Yes.
[1:30:30] If
[1:30:33] I may.
[1:30:34] Any other questions?
[1:30:34] Yeah.
[1:30:35] I'd love to hear some pros and cons.
[1:30:36] Well, I was just going to say, I think there is some value and some consistency.
[1:30:40] And again, I'm kind of looking at Shelley who manages these public records request.
[1:30:45] If we were all on the same device, knowing that it's real time, much like probably our most
[1:30:52] of our work emails and phones and texts, it just, it will bring some continuity to what she
[1:30:59] asked to do on a daily basis. And I think that's that's invaluable. And it protects us all.
[1:31:07] Much like I believe the mayor has a as a city and a lot of the department has as well. I would
[1:31:13] presume that's all. That's the pros. Now you could you could say I don't want to
[1:31:19] lug around too because I mean you have to have them in your pocket all the time but
[1:31:24] I mean, I will say that from my perspective, we talked a little bit about this in finance
[1:31:29] committee.
[1:31:30] I can't say I check my emails three times a day on our online app talk.
[1:31:35] It's part of us in three point on a phone, I think it gives us much better accessibility.
[1:31:42] Now, whether that phone sits at your house or whatever, it's still much easier to communicate
[1:31:48] from the phone then look at one of these.
[1:31:53] And again, from public records perspective,
[1:31:55] I think it makes Shelley's job a lot easier
[1:31:59] to be able to have our emails, texts, phone calls,
[1:32:03] whatever all consolidated on one device.
[1:32:07] So I'm in favor of.
[1:32:09] Do you have this?
[1:32:11] Is this resolution drafted for review in this meeting?
[1:32:15] It is not, it will be drafted after the screening.
[1:32:19] So in that resolution is the option to select a phone or opt out?
[1:32:31] It's not a requirement that everyone has a phone.
[1:32:33] Is that what I'm hearing from the council?
[1:32:38] If there's folks that want to opt out, I will word the resolution differently so they have
[1:32:44] that opportunity, I'm just saying, as a board, if we were more consistent, it would make
[1:32:51] everybody mostly staff's lives easier. I don't want to necessarily speak for Shelley, but
[1:32:58] if we could easily make a motion, or excuse me, make a resolution that this resolution F-18 gives
[1:33:06] the ability for the city to purchase cell phones for those councils members that want.
[1:33:13] Just leave it like that. And an opt-in situation. Council members. If they want. Yep. Okay.
[1:33:20] Some reason if you don't, we'll respect that. Yeah. I think that's simple question.
[1:33:29] Council member rural. So since the settlement drafts idea, I've seen this came out of the finance
[1:33:33] committee is like a hot idea. I'm for this for the record but since it's not drafted yet and we
[1:33:39] don't have anything to look at is this critical to be voted on tonight or can we wait and do it at
[1:33:44] the next meeting when it's drafted and we can read it.
[1:33:49] Again I can draft it in one sentence. I mean
[1:33:52] it's that simple. It's resolution F-18 would enable the city to purchase cell phones for those
[1:34:00] council members that would like hear you. I guess that's great and if we could have that for the next meeting, I think that would be more appropriate.
[1:34:11] I would approve of that. The team has just.
[1:34:17] Is it before we, is there a second?
[1:34:22] A second. A second.
[1:34:25] Is there any further discussion?
[1:34:28] Yeah, one one thing probably group text with four more would be an out correct.
[1:34:36] Yes, group texts are not an option with four more people.
[1:34:41] A group
[1:34:49] text would not be on any device.
[1:34:52] Whether it's your question.
[1:34:53] Yeah, I see. I know. I just don't want to clarify that. It was very correct. Yes. When you're talking
[1:35:00] about city business, you may not talk about it with more than four people on the city council.
[1:35:07] Sorry, more than three people, four or more people when you're talking about city business.
[1:35:13] I just have a couple of questions. Go, Will. Will we have a, in the future, in a company resolution for
[1:35:21] a tech policy to have some guidelines in place for this kind of like I've been working
[1:35:29] through a social media policy to we protect policy to accompany this and then are we
[1:35:34] going to get our business cards reprinted because my personal cell phone was listed as my
[1:35:39] mobile on my city business cards so I am 100% in favor of having a city phone and not have
[1:35:44] to hand out my personal cell phone every time I give out my business card.
[1:35:48] So, those are the two things, we have tech policy and new business cards.
[1:35:53] Is the tech policy specific to council? Is that the request?
[1:35:57] I think you need to shape tech policy. And I might see city wide.
[1:36:02] I think we need to have a city wide wide.
[1:36:03] There is a city wide tech policy. It probably needs to be updated,
[1:36:06] along with all of our other policies, which we are in the process of doing a lot of them.
[1:36:11] Like our purchasing policy is well underway, along with probably four or five other ones that
[1:36:15] I have that are in draft that will be hopefully finalized soon and tech policy is one of those we have a lot of technology issues that we need to kind of address and deal with so it's almost like we should wait a little bit before we fully update the tech policy until we revise our technology and get our technology little more modernized.
[1:36:40] Thank you.
[1:36:41] And yes, we will catch you up.
[1:36:45] Yes.
[1:36:46] Any other discussion?
[1:36:50] No, please call the question eight.
[1:36:52] Though it doesn't favor of approving resolution.
[1:36:56] F 518.
[1:36:59] Aye.
[1:37:00] Aye.
[1:37:00] No.
[1:37:01] Those opposed.
[1:37:04] Any abstentions?
[1:37:07] Resolution F 518 passes.
[1:37:11] All right.
[1:37:11] All right, we'll move to Ordinance Z08, the creation of Arts Council and Administrator Mice.
[1:37:18] Thank you Mayor Mark.
[1:37:21] That should read ARP's commissions.
[1:37:25] Sorry, I'd like to revise that.
[1:37:27] Go ahead.
[1:37:28] So, this is second reading for the City Council on ordinance creating an ARP's commission and making certain revisions.
[1:37:41] to the city code with how that new arts commission would relate to the parks forward and to the city council.
[1:37:50] You heard this once and at the first reading there were some suggestions for new and improved language.
[1:37:57] which, so I took a swing at making those changes within the ordinance.
[1:38:05] They are identified in red strike through, we read underline, and then where we made those
[1:38:13] changes, I tried to also put them in highlight so that they were easily identifiable.
[1:38:18] But the point was, again, to try and make it very clear that the Arts Commission is a separate
[1:38:23] entity.
[1:38:24] the discussion at the previous meeting.
[1:38:28] So for instance, in, can you pull that up, shall we?
[1:38:32] Thank you.
[1:38:33] So for instance, in 2.07.055, Part C, language was modified
[1:38:42] there to 2.07.055.
[1:38:48] Yes, scroll down a little bit farther.
[1:38:54] There we go.
[1:38:56] Part C.
[1:38:56] And so this is the finished document this doesn't show the underlying strike there, but any recommendation by the arts commission and parks board involving the placement of public earth signage shall be submitted to the city council before it read board of park commissioners for review and approval before taking effect the city council against strike board of park commissioners shall act within 60 days further down if implementation of an approved recommendation required.
[1:39:27] budget amendment. The amendment shall be brought before the council before any funds are expended. So, again, clearly putting that authority to the City Council in regards to how the Arts Commission relates to the City Council as opposed to the Parks Board.
[1:39:44] Section D, you see up, we did see, there we go. That section was completely struck. It had to do with the board of the Parks Board.
[1:39:58] We're rejecting an idea from the arts commission and then there was an appeals process and so we simply struck that out they bring their recommendations to the city council, the city council is a final decision.
[1:40:12] and then over in 2.08.05.0 parts C,
[1:40:22] right A, B, B, C. You see this much shorter section
[1:40:26] now before this talked about including works of art recommended over which the Park Commission
[1:40:32] final approval. We struck that and then final section 2.08.060 budget and fiscal powers
[1:40:43] This is budget and fiscal powers of the parks floor, I want to be clear, yeah.
[1:40:51] This is budget and fiscal powers of the parks board.
[1:40:55] Arts commission recommendations involving park property that have been approved by the City Council.
[1:41:02] And carry budget implications shall be incorporated into the parks and recreation budget.
[1:41:07] So making it clear that arts commission items go through the City Council.
[1:41:12] Council, City Council rules on those items.
[1:41:16] If those items require budget amendment, that amendment comes back to the City Council
[1:41:21] for approval before those dollars get expended.
[1:41:24] If that's something that's going to be in a future budget, then those dollars would be
[1:41:32] appropriated to the parks budget, or enumerated for expenditure by the arts commission.
[1:41:41] Now, if we wanted to create an arts commission fund and handle that expenditure differently,
[1:41:49] you certainly could.
[1:41:50] But my goal here was to try and based on previous conversations, separate the parts board
[1:41:56] and the arts commission and put all of that final authority on the City Council.
[1:42:03] Thank the mayor for any questions.
[1:42:05] I'll certainly take.
[1:42:06] Any questions?
[1:42:08] First, I really love the highlighting.
[1:42:12] Thank you.
[1:42:13] Thank you for that.
[1:42:14] That makes it so much easier to see what the changes were.
[1:42:19] Big fan.
[1:42:21] Regarding the actual changes, though,
[1:42:23] I feel like well, one,
[1:42:26] this isn't conflict with our existing code for Parkward.
[1:42:31] So Parkward as of today has full authority over parks
[1:42:35] and what happens in parts. So having the arts commission have like an idea for a statue or
[1:42:43] something in a park and not going to the park board first is actually in violation of our code,
[1:42:49] far as my understanding of the interpretation of the park board section. So if they came to council,
[1:42:57] I don't know, is that overriding the park board's authority? Is that micromanaging the park board?
[1:43:03] does it then have to go back to the park board or approval and if they like I
[1:43:12] just don't think the
[1:43:13] attempt what I was trying to do here was modify the code to make it clear what will and won't be
[1:43:20] a responsibility of the park board going forward with a relationship to the arts commission. So then we
[1:43:25] should update the park board code to remove their authority. I think that's what I did. So if I'm
[1:43:32] I mean, this is the arts commission section flip over a couple of things.
[1:43:36] That's just the budget.
[1:43:38] So if you go to section 2.08.
[1:43:42] But it still doesn't change the fact that there is code on the books.
[1:43:45] I'm not sure if actually in Beard Center we touched it.
[1:43:48] That gives the park board authority.
[1:43:51] That's how they were able to do the park rules on their own without having council approval.
[1:43:56] They just informed us.
[1:43:59] So if there's further places that we need to make changes, I'm certainly open to that.
[1:44:05] I was working within the contents of this particular original draft ordinance.
[1:44:10] I get there 2.08.505.0 section C, which is the short section here, but previously it said
[1:44:18] before deletion, right, including works of art recommended by the Arts Commission pursuant
[1:44:25] the section below 2.07.055 over which the board of park commission retains final approval.
[1:44:31] I struck that section.
[1:44:33] And that's fine.
[1:44:34] It's leaving that out.
[1:44:35] It still says that permit, the park board has permitting, installing and maintaining
[1:44:40] any statutory monuments or works of art placed within the city use or exhibit in parks and
[1:44:46] recreation areas.
[1:44:47] So like the additional section that was cut doesn't actually remove the park board's authority
[1:44:54] over art in the park. It just removes that they have to talk to the arts.
[1:45:01] So to me, this is kind of working backwards, but maybe we could say it's implied because we have park board that it has authority over what happens in the park. And then we have an arts commission that has authority over or recommendations for art, but I guess. I don't. I know the intention was to try and help make sure they were two separate bodies, but that doesn't mean that they have authority in different areas. And they need to
[1:45:29] work together just like the arts commission will have to work with anyone if they wanted to paint city hall
[1:45:35] to make it look like a beautiful rainforest outside or something you know they would obviously need
[1:45:40] to talk to the administer all the light department I guess or both. And so this is the same thing with the
[1:45:46] park board so I mean we can remove references to them having to work together potentially but I mean
[1:45:54] I mean, I don't think having them go bypass the existing process of going to the park
[1:45:59] board is the right way to approach this.
[1:46:05] Certainly.
[1:46:05] I mean, that's your perspective and that's the priority of the city council, right?
[1:46:10] Really, what I was attempting to do, I went back, I listened to the entire discussion from
[1:46:16] the last meeting and I attempted to take what was in that discussion with regard to these
[1:46:21] items and then integrate that discussion into the ordinance that we had in front of us, right?
[1:46:28] So if the council wants to leave that authority with the parks board, that's to the
[1:46:34] prerogative of the city council. What I was attempting to do actually was with regard to deciding
[1:46:42] on issues of art in parks, leave that with the city council upon recommendation of both units,
[1:46:51] which is what it says up front.
[1:46:54] When we read Section C where it talks about permitting, installing and maintaining, I look
[1:47:00] at those as the normal duties that you would have if you had something in your park.
[1:47:08] You're going to install it.
[1:47:10] Parks would be required to manage the installation process, manage the maintenance of the object,
[1:47:18] and manage the permitting.
[1:47:19] And when I say permitting, I'm not talking about permitting of the arts commission.
[1:47:24] I'm talking about do we need building permits or other types of permits to place that object in the park.
[1:47:31] So if there's, if there's other places it needs to be modified for that purpose that's fine.
[1:47:39] Or if the council says no, no, we want to leave that authority with the parks board.
[1:47:47] That's fine too.
[1:47:47] If there are any other questions?
[1:47:50] It's your ordinance.
[1:47:52] Yes, Council Member Vartel.
[1:47:54] First off, I want to commend you for making these modifications.
[1:47:57] And thank you for keeping them highlighted too.
[1:48:01] When we originally brought this ordinance, I think the
[1:48:03] the progative was to establish an arts commission
[1:48:07] because there are certain grants that we are
[1:48:11] available to apply for if we had an arts commission.
[1:48:14] So my understanding is this ordinance as it's developed dovetail into the parks ordinance because that was the logical fit to code by an art sketch.
[1:48:27] As I stayed last time, I think there's some misconceptions about park board authority.
[1:48:32] We went through this a few years ago when there was a discussion that the park board assigns fees and sets fees that that is just not correct.
[1:48:41] Council sets needs, whether it's for the full, whether it's for rentals at the rent
[1:48:47] of person building, whether it's special permits, fees and fines are established by counts
[1:48:53] by ordinance, not the park board, even if it occurs in parks.
[1:48:58] So again, most of the subcommittees are advisory to council and when it comes to assigning
[1:49:05] fees, allocating budget, that's a council decision.
[1:49:10] So, again, I think you've done a good job, you've accomplished the fact that there is an
[1:49:16] arts commission, there's a advisory to council, it's something we can say.
[1:49:21] Yes, we have an arts commission now, and now we can apply for certain grants that I don't
[1:49:25] know who found the grant on the streets, but I think that was a prerequisite.
[1:49:29] If I'm not mistaken, that's what I was thinking.
[1:49:33] Any other comments or questions?
[1:49:37] Hold on, let's see if we may answer something.
[1:49:40] Just real quick.
[1:49:41] So I think see for me, see kind of sums it up because we're saying any recommendation by the arts commission and parts board involving the placement of public art blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1:49:53] We're asking those two to work together and then make a recommendation to us.
[1:49:58] So I find that satisfactory that they're working together and then bringing that to us and then we make the decision about whether the art will go wherever it's going.
[1:50:09] So to me it makes sense that they're working together and that's taking place.
[1:50:17] I guess the way that this is written the way I read it is that any recommendation regardless of financial financial anything.
[1:50:26] So even if something is like the mural we put in veterans park that was sponsored and there was no financial impact to any one's budget.
[1:50:37] So way this is written to me that would still have to come before council if we were to do it again and get approval versus park board just approving it because it's their authority.
[1:50:48] Or in this case arts and parks working together to approve it jointly because there's no cost involved.
[1:50:55] The only reason I think you would need to come before council is a great financial if there's a budget need, if there's an amendment to a budget, if Dan's budget doesn't cover whatever they can't find a grant to cover it.
[1:51:09] I know I personally don't think it's worth council's time to micromanage all of the things, especially if there's no financial oversight needed.
[1:51:20] Yeah, there are comments just broke real quick on that one with the questions about budget even if it's put up front like like with the mural.
[1:51:29] There's no upfront costs. Are we taking it to consideration though? The long term effects of maintenance of some of these installations that even if they weren't paid they were
[1:51:38] are donated by the community.
[1:51:41] Do we still, because there may potentially be budget ramifications
[1:51:45] down the road?
[1:51:46] We would want these things to come before council,
[1:51:48] just to make sure we're aware of any potential budget issues
[1:51:50] that might come from having to maintain these installations.
[1:51:55] Is that, I mean, I guess is that what you're trying to capture
[1:51:58] in this or?
[1:52:01] Yes, certainly that's part of it.
[1:52:03] I think you're exactly right that they're whether or not
[1:52:06] front cost is there there's always there's potentially always going to be
[1:52:12] some type of a maintenance cost I think part of the issue though is at some
[1:52:18] point somebody has to be able to make a decision right and the way I understood
[1:52:24] previous conversations here was that there was discomfort with the parks board
[1:52:32] where it being the decision maker over what the arts commission wanted to do.
[1:52:38] And there was an appeals process that came back.
[1:52:41] And so my understanding from the discussion we had last time was, let's just put the
[1:52:47] City Council as the decision maker and have these two bodies work together.
[1:52:52] And so yeah, that's what I was trying to do.
[1:52:54] If your comment is exactly right, there are still some of those types of considerations.
[1:52:58] But really, I was just trying to say, okay, if there's discomfort with the park's board
[1:53:04] being the decision maker, then who gets to make the decision?
[1:53:11] And to me, the place for that decision to reside is with the city council.
[1:53:16] That way, you're the end authority on public art.
[1:53:22] Where's it going to go?
[1:53:23] And what's it's going to cost?
[1:53:24] All of those types of things.
[1:53:26] and your expectation is, as you've said,
[1:53:29] whereas I think we've tried to say in this,
[1:53:31] is that they're gonna work together
[1:53:33] and bring you joint recommendations, right?
[1:53:37] And then you were the decision there.
[1:53:39] Council Member Hall, I think we might be getting
[1:53:41] too nuanced, I mean, their advisory committees,
[1:53:46] so they're not making decisions.
[1:53:47] So because they're advisory,
[1:53:49] they have to come to City Council.
[1:53:50] I feel like we could easily put them on the consent agenda.
[1:53:53] Take a look at the consent agenda.
[1:53:55] So it wouldn't take up time and they would still be fulfilling their roles and they would probably work together better that way and we would still be serving our role.
[1:54:06] Is there an action expected tonight?
[1:54:10] I'm sorry. What are you looking for the second reading or the second reading this evening? Yes, that would be physical.
[1:54:17] Thank you.
[1:54:18] here. But there's no further questions or comments. I move for the second reading of ordinance
[1:54:24] Z-08 entitled in summary form only, and that would be deferred to a future being for consideration.
[1:54:31] Okay. So motion in the second to approve the second reading of ordinance Z-08 entitled in summary form
[1:54:42] only. Those in favor. Those opposed. No abstentions.
[1:55:15] providing for membership, turns,
[1:55:17] do you get to get the details
[1:55:19] to provide support and the serviceability
[1:55:21] and an effect rate?
[1:55:23] Thank you.
[1:55:25] All right.
[1:55:27] Staff reports,
[1:55:29] you think you're first, Mr. Mace?
[1:55:33] So I'm gonna set a forward,
[1:55:35] like, one first this evening
[1:55:37] and publicly disclosed that I didn't get any bullets
[1:55:41] to Shelley for the-
[1:55:43] She probably made you a slight anyway.
[1:55:45] What's that?
[1:55:45] She would probably make him slide any.
[1:55:47] Oh, good. She didn't cover for you.
[1:55:51] And I didn't ask her to.
[1:55:53] So, but I would a couple of things I wouldn't mention just real quick.
[1:55:57] If we have it told you about it before.
[1:56:01] This Friday is obviously commemoration of the 9-11 events.
[1:56:06] And there is a memorial stair closet at Eastern Washington University.
[1:56:10] that refers to 8.30 a.m. They say 8.30 a.m. to 10 a.m. I think it's 8.30 a.m.
[1:56:18] till whenever it takes you to get all the steps on. Just to put you on notice that we
[1:56:25] will have a significant amount of staff that'll be participating in this in a cross-section
[1:56:29] of city departments. We're looking forward to that. The mayor may not have been some
[1:56:33] informal wagers made with respect to that. But if it's something that you're interested
[1:56:39] in. We would certainly love to have you as part of Team Cheney on Friday. The event starts at 830. There
[1:56:47] will probably be some of us there earlier than that. There will be some of us there that their whole
[1:56:52] role is to encourage and cheerlead. And there's also an option if you don't feel comfortable actually
[1:56:58] walking the steps. There's an option to go track on the track. So you can walk the track and I think the
[1:57:05] The idea is that you're walking at distance equal to what some of the firefighters and
[1:57:10] first responders did in busing the Lincoln tunnel.
[1:57:15] What's tunnel?
[1:57:16] Lincoln tunnel.
[1:57:17] Okay.
[1:57:17] To arrive at the Twin Towers.
[1:57:22] So again, just wanted to make sure if you didn't know about that, a lot of it will be out
[1:57:26] there on Friday, huffing and puffing for a good purpose.
[1:57:31] So that being said, I'll take any questions if there are for the administration. Otherwise, we'll move along.
[1:57:40] Thanks.
[1:57:43] Director Ross will
[1:57:47] always show you up with his slides.
[1:57:52] It's all Shelley.
[1:57:54] So IT services is what I wanted to kind of talk about and it's funny that we talked a little bit already about technology.
[1:58:02] So we have been dealing with some disparate systems.
[1:58:07] It's funny because one of the images that I had talked about
[1:58:11] with Shelley was some like crossing of wires and tanglement
[1:58:14] and knots and some sparks flying because it felt like
[1:58:17] that's what I kind of walked into when I arrived on day one
[1:58:20] and the file server was down.
[1:58:22] So we've made a lot of improvements since then.
[1:58:25] Minor improvements, but, you know, there's still improvements.
[1:58:27] We're still moving forward.
[1:58:31] Overall, what we're looking to do is really kind of assess the entire system and reevaluate
[1:58:39] it and come up with a plan to make it better, bring it into the modern day.
[1:58:47] Some of the improvements we've done recently was with Microsoft 365.
[1:58:52] We have paid for these products, but a lot of them weren't deployed.
[1:58:55] So we've been able to get many of them deployed so we now are using teams as a city and we're able to communicate more easily with each other.
[1:59:05] We've activated SharePoint and we are working to get actually for city council a setup for all of you and we're actually just a little note on that like we're going to have different sections for each committee that will be blocked off for just those.
[1:59:25] participants so we don't ever end up in a serial meeting and then the one that has for all
[1:59:31] counsel is just going to be informational purposes only so it'll be just PDF of files and so that
[1:59:35] you have access to those files and where that exists. So that's just kind of an idea of like a lot
[1:59:41] of the things that we've been working on but when I say we're looking at overhauling our whole system
[1:59:46] we already know that our managed services my executive tech is not so great so we are looking at
[1:59:53] other solutions for that, but beyond just those other solutions.
[2:00:00] Already is to get a new managed service because we need to replace them. But with that has to be a full
[2:00:06] overhaul of the system, we need to build the architecture, we need to understand what that looks like. Part of it is going to be on
[2:00:13] servers still. Some much of it will be in the cloud. Another big project along with that is going to be our data because we have a lot of data on our
[2:00:23] servers. So we have to clean up that data first before we can even migrate anything. We are dealing
[2:00:28] with some archaic servers. We have some servers that are from the 90s that are still running
[2:00:34] and they're still running software. And they at some point are going to die. And so we're working
[2:00:40] tirelessly to figure out what are we going to do with that data, how are we going to be able to
[2:00:44] access it and such. We are dealing with our skater servers that also are beyond age. They're
[2:00:53] not as old as the 90s but they are still of age a little bit past their life and so we need to
[2:00:59] come up with a solution for that. With that comes the budgeting that's going to have to go around
[2:01:07] it but first we need to get a picture of everything and see what those costs are going to be and as we
[2:01:11] go through this budget process that's coming up here quickly, we should hopefully have
[2:01:15] that all wrapped in.
[2:01:17] Thank you.
[2:01:18] Any questions?
[2:01:21] Thanks.
[2:01:22] Thank you.
[2:01:22] Yeah.
[2:01:22] Thank you, James.
[2:01:24] Thank you.
[2:01:25] You're up, Carrie.
[2:01:26] Oh, no.
[2:01:26] Because I don't know the alphabet.
[2:01:29] Chief Jenkins.
[2:01:30] Well, I like fall asleep there.
[2:01:31] Sorry about that.
[2:01:32] So in Memorial of 9-11 stair climb, a lot of your teeny firefighters, you probably don't
[2:01:38] know this, they do go to Seattle once a year and they participated in Seattle.
[2:01:45] Yeah, climb.
[2:01:47] So going out and participating, your firefighters went out last year to Eastern, so the
[2:01:52] the whole theme of the slide this week was a lot of preparation for Eastern and our Eagles coming
[2:01:57] back into town. Our first home football game to support that and we'll be in full force with the
[2:02:03] 9-11, uh, stair climb supporting out here for Eastern as well.
[2:02:10] Thanks, she.
[2:02:13] Now it's your turn, Carrie. I'm sorry, Ms. Gomez.
[2:02:17] There you go. No, call me Carrie. I'm going to do my obligatory, um,
[2:02:23] update on our positions. We continue to have a fair amount of turnover, which
[2:02:30] keeps me pretty busy. So our deputy court clerk, we did offer that position.
[2:02:34] She is accepted and will be starting with us on October 1st.
[2:02:38] The waste water collection's equipment operator has also accepted our offer.
[2:02:44] He will be starting later this month.
[2:02:47] The waste water treatment and recommendation plant supervisor.
[2:02:51] That recruitment goes well as we had hoped.
[2:02:53] So likely we'll be reposting sometime as soon as we figure that out.
[2:02:58] Senior accountant is a new posting as of today.
[2:03:00] So if anybody knows anybody that wants to be our next senior accountant, please have them apply and then we are
[2:03:06] hosting some part-time positions as well
[2:03:10] use sports referees always in desperate need of those correct
[2:03:15] So if we have anybody
[2:03:17] That wants to apply it for those those will be posted here shortly
[2:03:22] And then my last fun thing is the Washington Municipal Clerks Association partnership program
[2:03:28] So I serve as an elected board member of the Washington Municipal Clerk's Association.
[2:03:35] I'm in my second term on the board and part of one of the things that I have gotten to do
[2:03:42] through WMCA is it's called the partnership program but it's a mentor mentee type program.
[2:03:50] And so for the last year and a half, I have been mentoring the town clerk for the town of Friday Harbor
[2:03:56] who is a new clerk. And I guess going into it I didn't really have any expectation. I didn't
[2:04:04] really know what to expect. I've never done this before. So I have discovered that you can learn
[2:04:11] as much from a newbie as anybody else. So they in Friday Harbor had a First Amendment auditor
[2:04:20] which we have been lucky enough not to have and had some stuff go really wrong with that because
[2:04:26] their staff wasn't trained, they didn't know how to do it, and so I learned a lot of tips and tricks
[2:04:32] and things that what to do and not to do in situations like that just from someone that has
[2:04:39] been on her job for just over a year. So I guess the moral of the story is if you ever have the
[2:04:44] opportunity to be in one of those types of roles, absolutely do it because you may be learning as
[2:04:50] much as your party. Thanks,
[2:04:57] Dr. Schulte.
[2:05:03] I like tonight our BPA rebate program that the city has, so the BPA grants funds to
[2:05:11] the city. In total amount of the conservation budget was $545,000 and some change. So today
[2:05:20] we have paid out a little over $33,000 to our citizens to upgrade everything from, you
[2:05:27] you know, furnaces, heat pumps, water heaters, windows.
[2:05:31] You know, as you can see, that's a pretty big delta
[2:05:33] between what we had budgeted.
[2:05:35] We have $512,898 left.
[2:05:38] So, we encourage our citizens to take advantage
[2:05:41] of that program while the funds are still available.
[2:05:44] So, that does run through September 30th of 2028.
[2:05:48] So, it's a great opportunity for people to increase
[2:05:51] the efficiency of their home, lower their energy bills,
[2:05:54] and hats off to Valerie Marsh who you met earlier tonight.
[2:05:58] She's actually the one that processes all the rebate forms
[2:06:01] and make sure that people are getting the correct information to her
[2:06:04] so that we can get those checks back from BPA directly to the citizens.
[2:06:07] So, it's a great program and, you know, any chance that we have
[2:06:11] to spread the word we appreciated.
[2:06:13] Any questions?
[2:06:14] Quick one.
[2:06:15] Yeah. How does the citizen apply for a rebate?
[2:06:18] So, it's on our website.
[2:06:20] There's a link to get to the page that shows you what's available.
[2:06:23] and then they contact the utility specialist or the permitting specialist and they can walk
[2:06:29] them through those steps. Lays out everything that they can do, the models, the makes and everything.
[2:06:34] So it's a pretty well well home program. Great. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:06:49] Thanks for the slide,
[2:06:50] Shelley, last week. Looks really good. Thank you. So we're inviting everybody this Saturday from
[2:06:55] 10 to noon at Chini Middle School or annual touch of truck events. Some of the big vehicles from
[2:07:02] Most of the apartments will be there and gives kids
[2:07:05] and parents an opportunity to go interact with staff
[2:07:08] and see the, like the dump trucks and loaders
[2:07:11] and graders and skid steers.
[2:07:13] And then also we have a number of local businesses
[2:07:16] that are volunteering their time,
[2:07:17] like Dow excavating, JNM fabrication, STA.
[2:07:22] And so anyway, it'll be a fun event.
[2:07:23] It's free and there will be food.
[2:07:25] And then also just a little blurb about our fall programs,
[2:07:31] programs, really great turnout for all youth sports,
[2:07:34] kudos to our recreation supervisor for spearheading that,
[2:07:38] and then also our before and after school program
[2:07:40] is training really positively,
[2:07:43] and thanks to Carrie,
[2:07:45] and we've got 19 part-time team members
[2:07:48] and we'll be growing by probably a couple more,
[2:07:51] so that's our report.
[2:07:53] Yes.
[2:07:54] I heard a rumor earlier in the year
[2:07:56] that there might be a helicopter at the Tessertruck,
[2:07:59] is that? I think I'm getting some nods. I don't want to spoil the surprise. I didn't
[2:08:05] think so. Huge thanks to Chief Oak. There's some really special surprises that might involve
[2:08:10] helicopters.
[2:08:19] We'll be a surprise.
[2:08:23] Thinking of Chief Oak here up. He
[2:08:29] sounds like he's making
[2:08:31] and everybody slides now, was that a thing?
[2:08:34] To know, I just want to give a shout out to our crisis response team.
[2:08:38] As many of you guys know, I'm a big community policing advocate, and this is the model.
[2:08:47] They work tirelessly to provide services to our citizens, and it really bridges the gap
[2:08:53] between police response and initial response and resources.
[2:08:57] So they're paramount to what we do every day.
[2:09:00] I can't tell you how many times I hear that we were the citizens are so happy to speak
[2:09:05] with them when they're kind of reluctant to speak to a police officer that responded.
[2:09:09] So it's really getting us engaged with the citizens and the resources that we could provide
[2:09:16] them.
[2:09:17] So we're super grateful for them and we're also grateful for area heights as partnership
[2:09:21] because oftentimes some of these calls require two teams to respond and so we've got us
[2:09:28] is there with Hyde's team as well.
[2:09:30] So just to do a fantastic job and super proud of them.
[2:09:33] And yeah, any questions?
[2:09:36] And I'm not flying a helicopter, I promise.
[2:09:39] Like, you guys are good.
[2:09:40] Say it with a say.
[2:09:42] Thanks, Chief.
[2:09:46] Director Ferguson.
[2:09:50] Okay, well, thank you.
[2:09:52] She'll only she bailed me out on this one.
[2:09:53] But that's not the question.
[2:09:56] We wouldn't do without her.
[2:09:58] I was asked to kind of highlight
[2:09:59] what the code partner is doing now.
[2:10:02] that we have, Mr. Chessy on board full time.
[2:10:05] Without we pulled some information
[2:10:07] and just last year or excuse me, last month's permits,
[2:10:11] you can see the blue graph there,
[2:10:13] building brought in 38 permits, civil four permits,
[2:10:17] code had 48 contacts, I'm not gonna say permits,
[2:10:23] contacts and follow-ups,
[2:10:26] and public works had eight permits
[2:10:27] and zoning had four permits.
[2:10:29] And the evaluations are there with it.
[2:10:31] We've done a pretty substantial job revamping the code department since Philip came on board.
[2:10:39] He's getting his feet under him.
[2:10:41] He's been working with courts on citations and how to go about that process.
[2:10:47] His letters, he's put out our phenomenal.
[2:10:49] He's getting a lot of response from him of the 48 that went out in August last month.
[2:10:56] Yeah, August 20 or 20 of them are closed already 20 of them are still in follow-up. We have an issue to any
[2:11:02] citations at this point so
[2:11:05] Code is moving along well and I think it's gonna be a good investment for the city because majority of these things are
[2:11:13] impacting the face of the city as far as
[2:11:17] upkeep
[2:11:19] keeping junk off properties
[2:11:21] lowering fire hazards so
[2:11:23] Overall, it's a valuable program and it's only going to get better as we go, so code is
[2:11:30] being successful at this point and we expect it to continue to go, so I have any questions.
[2:11:35] Cool. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:11:40] Thank you very much. Just want to reiterate mostly, for my
[2:11:46] report, I do want to invite you to touch truck and you should bring the kids in your life
[2:11:52] to join you and hawks and horns. Well, I'm sorry. The horn honking only happens after 1030. So, it's going to be fun.
[2:12:05] And also to invite you to the Memorial Stair Climb. These past couple of weeks I have met with EWU for some coordination and also working with the county on some coordination.
[2:12:18] and those things are going well.
[2:12:22] I'm really excited about things coming up with Eastern
[2:12:25] and just the continued partnership.
[2:12:27] It feels like that is growing and that's really cool.
[2:12:31] And then I also want to just give a shout out
[2:12:36] for the new Pickleball courts.
[2:12:38] They are fully functional.
[2:12:40] So if Pickleball is your sport,
[2:12:41] you've got another month or two to get some games in
[2:12:44] in our new football courts. The ribbon cutting was not this pass Saturday, but the Saturday
[2:12:51] before. And I have to see some people playing football in tennis and it was very fun.
[2:12:58] So make sure you go check that out and participate in the country's newest FAD.
[2:13:10] Council reports
[2:13:13] week. I know I did put out a request a couple months ago for the figures where we were at
[2:13:19] was spending the opioid last year.
[2:13:23] Sooner or weeky get that the better because the dashboard is waiting on Chee
[2:13:27] Need to give our information to the county as to what we've spent it on. I also know there's been
[2:13:31] recently some requests for using the opioid funds so having a better idea of where we're at
[2:13:37] with those funds would be super, especially before the next public safety meet.
[2:13:42] Um, and then I attended the West Plains Chamber of Commerce beyond the roof or breakfast beyond the roofs.
[2:13:47] Uh, that was a lot of fun this year. It's great to attend and be in community and see a lot of friendly and familiar faces. And that's it.
[2:13:56] That's it.
[2:13:56] I'll tell someone along.
[2:14:12] Quick overview, but you can kind of, uh, not a lot has happened last couple weeks. So that's good.
[2:14:19] Um, you can go to the next slide.
[2:14:20] I am the council liaison on the Historic Preservation Commission.
[2:14:26] So you heard earlier a call who's on the Historic Preservation Commission.
[2:14:30] She gave public comment regarding this concern that came up at the last meeting.
[2:14:35] So federal government's looking at changing rules for the Historic Preservation Act, specifically
[2:14:41] the Section 08 or 106 that is impacts like local governments and how we participate in things.
[2:14:47] So they're looking at taking away historic designations and taking away the right are right as a city
[2:14:54] to give feedback and input on
[2:14:57] changes that happen to
[2:15:00] So like our downtown, for example, if the federal government wanted to come in and like do something. If these changes went through, we wouldn't have a right to really speak to that. Or even be notified. So this isn't hasn't come up for public commentary yet. But as soon as it does, which can happen any day, I definitely recommend folks provide public comment to the agency that is, you know, looking at this. I have more specifics. I know it's a long meeting. So I didn't
[2:15:29] put them on my slide, but I have a newsletter, so I will post them with like a link of where you
[2:15:34] can track this, or you can reach out to the Historic Preservation Commission, or Susan Beeman,
[2:15:39] who is the staff liaison for that, and we can get more information to you if you're interested.
[2:15:46] Anyway, that's my serious slide. So here's the Pickleball Court. So I also got to stop in and check
[2:15:52] them out, and I have to use them today at lunch too. And then, yeah, and then a bunch of us, we had a
[2:15:59] really great turnout at breakfast beyond the rules this year, which was much less yellow
[2:16:05] jacket infested because we were inside. Yeah, it was just great to like celebrate Eastern
[2:16:12] athletics and see that we had a full table of cheney showing up to support Eastern.
[2:16:19] I think that was great. So yeah, those are my fun and things.
[2:16:26] Yeah, I also kind of breakfast
[2:16:28] to be on the ruse and I think my big takeaway there was um how many times director
[2:16:34] cruelly got name dropped. It's really cool and tells us what a awesome
[2:16:40] parks and rec director we have so that was pretty awesome and then I just want
[2:16:45] to thank shelly for making the staff look really good.
[2:16:49] Council member Rattell.
[2:16:51] The mayor's committee.
[2:16:53] Thursday at 7 a.m.
[2:16:57] It's our TC by around Thursday.
[2:16:59] And then.
[2:17:01] We talked about it.
[2:17:02] Finance committee tonight that we're coming on the budget season.
[2:17:06] As that rolls into October.
[2:17:08] We talked about a little bit about our retreat.
[2:17:12] I believe it was a budgeted item last year to facilitate a retreat.
[2:17:18] I think the mindset of a retreat is council and staff get to go to not Hawaii, but maybe.
[2:17:27] Some conference room maybe in here, but somewhere a little different.
[2:17:31] That is that retreat is public actually facilitated by someone else other than a staff member or council member or mayor.
[2:17:38] and we just kind of go through budgets and priorities.
[2:17:43] So I think in past discussions,
[2:17:46] we talked about a retreat lasting about four or five hours.
[2:17:50] In finance committee tonight,
[2:17:51] we talked about it might be most appropriate to do a retreat,
[2:17:55] maybe between the first and second reading of the budget.
[2:17:59] I think James correct me if I'm wrong,
[2:18:01] but the first reading was at the first meeting in October.
[2:18:07] It's the I think it's the second meeting October. I'll have a calendar out later this week, I think.
[2:18:13] So the reason we're throwing this out is it may be appropriate to get a serving a pool out to see it.
[2:18:20] On the first week of November, that's that kind of fits the vulnerable.
[2:18:24] So I think it would be good on new faces.
[2:18:29] And yeah.
[2:18:30] So yeah, thank you.
[2:18:32] Thank you. Council member hon.
[2:18:34] Just for me September is suicide prevention awareness month.
[2:18:40] So there's lots of opportunities to learn about that.
[2:18:43] If you're interested, so I guess I would just challenge everyone to.
[2:18:48] You probably know some things about it, but maybe this month learn something news.
[2:18:52] Look for things like asking someone if they are having suicidal thoughts.
[2:18:58] doesn't actually give them suicidal thoughts,
[2:19:00] because we're seeing more and more of that in our community.
[2:19:02] So just really taking the opportunity
[2:19:04] when information is everywhere to learn something new.
[2:19:09] All right, 8.08, our meeting is concluded.
[2:19:17] It's kind of not jammed, it's kind of jammed.
[2:19:20] It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't.
[2:19:23] Just you wait for,