1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,040 Good morning. Like to begin the regular 2 00:00:07,359 --> 00:00:11,280 session of the Blackhawk County Board of 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:13,519 Supervisors this morning for October 13, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,080 2026. Roll call, please. Miss Shaw 5 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:15,280 Walker 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,839 » Schwarz 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,480 » Here. 8 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:16,960 » Hall 9 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,520 » Here. 10 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,920 » Grant 11 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,560 » Here. 12 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,960 » Curtinbach 13 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:19,760 » Here. 14 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,840 » Leland 15 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,600 » Here. Would everyone please join us for 16 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,240 a moment of silence as we reflect on our 17 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,240 actions this morning. 18 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Thank you. Please join us for the pledge 19 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,600 of 20 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,600 » Allegiance 21 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,000 to the flag of the United States of 22 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,120 America and to the republic for which it 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,520 stands, one nation under God, 24 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,295 indivisible, with liberty and justice 25 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,315 for all. 26 00:00:58,295 --> 00:01:00,315 » [clears throat] 27 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,920 » Item one, agenda received as proposed or 28 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,760 as amended. 29 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,280 » So moved. Second. 30 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,119 » All in favor say I. 31 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,200 » I. 32 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:12,799 » Same sign. Agenda is received. Item two 33 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,320 is public comments. Is there anyone in 34 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:15,439 the audience today with public comments 35 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:19,240 that would like to speak on something 36 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:19,240 not on today's agenda? 37 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Anyone online? 38 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,880 All right. We move on to item three, 39 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,080 claims and payments. Resolution that the 40 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,840 board of supervisors approve 41 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,439 expenditures and that the county auditor 42 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,960 be authorized and directed to issue 43 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:34,960 payments against the various settlement 44 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:36,799 of such claims as allowed. 45 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:39,439 » So moved. Second. 46 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:41,759 » Moved and seconded. Miss Wner. Good 47 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:45,560 morning board. Our total bill payment 48 00:01:41,759 --> 00:01:45,560 today is $490,52.93. 49 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:53,799 And from that the sheriff's 6040 fund we 50 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,799 are paying $4,263. 51 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:01,040 Other than that 52 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:05,280 were a couple 53 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:08,280 things I thought I would 54 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,280 mention 55 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:11,760 if I can find them. Oh, maybe that was 56 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,640 last week. Yeah, I guess nothing 57 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,720 significant today. So 58 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:18,400 everything appears to be in order unless 59 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,560 you have questions for me. 60 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,319 » Michelle, looking at the bills for 61 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,280 payment, I was looking at the payments 62 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:27,680 for the fuel and diesel. Are we 63 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,520 monitoring how much impact we're having 64 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,720 compared to what we budgeted at this 65 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,519 point? Any of those 66 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,480 » We are and roads is definitely I'm sure 67 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:39,760 Kathy can speak to you about that. Um 68 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,920 expecting to that budget will be over 69 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,400 spent this year compared to prior years. 70 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:47,680 The prices are just up. So, 71 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,200 » Okay. Thank you. 72 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 » The resolution, please answer. Your name 73 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,560 is called. 74 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,040 » Brandon, 75 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,760 » Yes. 76 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,239 » Hall, 77 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,360 » Yes. 78 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:53,760 » Schwarz, 79 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,480 » Yes. 80 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,879 » Curtainbach, 81 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,760 » Yes. 82 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:56,720 » Leland, 83 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,640 » Yes. 84 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,239 » Item four, receive project updates from 85 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:03,920 department heads and elected officials. 86 00:03:02,239 --> 00:03:07,280 » Good morning, board. Kathy Nicholas, 87 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:08,800 engineer. Brief roads update. All mile 88 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,200 rock is now placed throughout the 89 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,959 county. Uh we are beginning to prepare 90 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,800 uh the roads for colder weather. That 91 00:03:12,959 --> 00:03:17,200 means placing spot racking locations, 92 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,879 just getting the profile reestablished 93 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,800 for those uh colder winter months. Uh we 94 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:25,680 have begun our ditch cleanout process 95 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,280 around the county now. Uh we we've got a 96 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,800 mostly full list, but if people are 97 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 still in need of ditch cleanouts, they 98 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,720 can certainly call the office and if we 99 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,280 can't get to you this year, you can 100 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,080 certainly be on our list for next year. 101 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,239 uh Taylor Construction or project up on 102 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,680 the wind on Winslow Road. Uh as you 103 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:45,680 know, they are replacing that structure 104 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:48,319 up there. They uh poured the the barrier 105 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,879 last week uh late last week, the barrier 106 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:53,040 rail. So they are nearing completion on 107 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,200 the structure itself and of course they 108 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,360 do have uh work to install the approach 109 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,040 structures and then the final uh grading 110 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,560 and paving and that type of thing. So 111 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,352 it'll be a few more weeks yet before 112 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,680 that road is reopened. And 113 00:04:02,352 --> 00:04:05,920 [clears throat] then lastly, we are 114 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,480 taking a look at our architectural RFPs 115 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,640 for our new shop facility and we'll be 116 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,480 um making the decision on that hopefully 117 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,120 in the next few weeks and we'll keep you 118 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,417 um posted on the outcome of that. Can I 119 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,600 answer any questions at this time? 120 00:04:17,417 --> 00:04:19,680 [clears throat] 121 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,560 » How many RFPs? And you said you got some 122 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,680 back then. Some proposals. 123 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:27,880 » We did. We received six of them. 124 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,880 » Thank you. Thanks very much. 125 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,840 » Good morning board. Mike Henderson, 126 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:36,160 director of county conservation. Just a 127 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,400 couple of things. Um, first of all, uh, 128 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,000 in a couple of weeks, our our first fall 129 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,600 fundraiser under the harvest moon will 130 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,600 take place on Friday, the October the 131 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,040 30th. We still have tickets available. 132 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,280 We would love to see everybody there. We 133 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,880 got great prizes, great auction items. 134 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:52,080 Um, we've really put together a good 135 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,440 show, I think. And um, but uh, got some 136 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,000 tickets. We'd like to sell that thing 137 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,160 out. And um, so keep that in mind. Pass 138 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,080 that on to friends. Uh if you have 139 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,080 trouble finding a way to buy tickets, um 140 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,320 our staff is happy to help. Just call 141 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,440 the office. We will get those tickets in 142 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,720 your hand. I promise you. Um secondly, 143 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,800 uh tomorrow at 10:00, um funding the 144 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,720 trust. We're doing a presentation. 145 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,919 Again, [snorts] this is uh this is 146 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,240 county conservation uh coming together 147 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:22,400 uh to act across the state. Um we are 148 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,120 going to beat that drum really hard. Um, 149 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,600 we've done it for a lot of years and um, 150 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:30,639 we want it back uh, on the table down in 151 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,160 De Moines and we want it passed and both 152 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,840 governor candidates have said that if it 153 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,673 gets to their desk they would sign it. 154 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,880 It will change natural resources forever 155 00:05:36,673 --> 00:05:40,800 [snorts] in the state of Iowa. Um, the 156 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,479 amount of money that that 38 of a cent 157 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,720 will generate is uh, is quite large and 158 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:48,160 um, we need it. We all know why. Um, I 159 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,759 don't have to tell that story. We all 160 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,000 know if we live in Iowa why we need 161 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:54,479 that. And so tomorrow Dan Cohen will do 162 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,479 that presentation. He is excellent. He 163 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:58,800 was uh assigned by the governor to that 164 00:05:56,479 --> 00:06:01,039 committee in 2006 when that was even 165 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,840 being considered and he has been with 166 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:06,319 that that process all the way through. 167 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:08,000 So he does a wonderful job of presenting 168 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:09,919 and educating and [snorts] 169 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,039 um we hope to fill that Rotary building. 170 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:16,479 We sent out well over 300 invitations. I 171 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:18,639 think every uh uh political candidate 172 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:20,319 has been invited and uh we would 173 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,759 certainly hope to fill that building. 174 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:24,319 So, love to see all of you there at 175 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:26,000 10:00 tomorrow and um it'll be a great 176 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:28,400 presentation. Any questions at all for 177 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,960 conservation? 178 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,199 » Thank you. 179 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,199 » Thank you, 180 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:37,680 board. Amanda Fazame, human resources 181 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:39,520 director. Um I just wanted to note that 182 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,360 I had sent the board and just asked if 183 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,919 there's any questions about what I laid 184 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,479 out for the VA. uh director uh 185 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:48,319 recruitment and selection process. Um so 186 00:06:46,479 --> 00:06:50,479 I'd sent you last time when we did this 187 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:52,880 in 2019, it was about a six to seven 188 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:55,120 week process. Um and just reminding the 189 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,560 board that uh the way the Iowa code 190 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,204 works with this is that the commission 191 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,479 recommends um the director 192 00:06:59,204 --> 00:07:02,880 [clears throat] candidate or appointment 193 00:07:00,479 --> 00:07:05,360 which then the board actually approves. 194 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,840 Therefore, the board needs to approve um 195 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,160 the uh requisition for us to actually 196 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:12,400 begin the posting. I did meet with uh 197 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,479 Yolando Loveless yesterday and um Henry 198 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,880 Corp of the VA commission just to have 199 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:18,800 some discussions about that. Um so they 200 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,800 may be reaching out um if they haven't 201 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,560 already had questions. But um do you 202 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,360 have any questions for me on this 203 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 process? 204 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,080 » After your conversation with them, I 205 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,599 guess were they hopeful that we [snorts] 206 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,960 could get something on the agenda for 207 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:32,160 next week, do you think? um some there's 208 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,199 been some discussion about the job 209 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,639 description with the commission about um 210 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,720 a few things with like a VA 211 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:43,680 administrator as well as a VA director. 212 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:45,039 So, uh [clears throat] that's um kind of 213 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 a discussion right now with the 214 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:48,880 commission that may happen prior to it 215 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 coming to the board. Um but that would 216 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,880 be something that you all would want to 217 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,360 be in tune with as well. So, it could go 218 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,520 on next week if it has no revisions to 219 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,479 the job description and remains as it is 220 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,395 right now. Um otherwise it could get 221 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:04,705 bumped out if there are permissions 222 00:08:03,395 --> 00:08:05,919 [snorts] which I think both commission 223 00:08:04,705 --> 00:08:07,120 [clears throat] and the board should be 224 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:08,720 discussing. 225 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,560 » Yeah. Well, keep in close touch with 226 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,080 them I guess just to make sure they they 227 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,080 could have maybe a special meeting or 228 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,840 session I guess with their whole board 229 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,360 if they needed to before then. 230 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 » Well, that was a question came up at the 231 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,720 board meeting last week. I don't know if 232 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Amanda know this in the last opening. 233 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,319 Did we have an interim director? They 234 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,680 chose someone. 235 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:27,680 » Uh that's a great question. I don't 236 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,360 believe we did. And at that time in 237 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,360 2019, we weren't really using the 238 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,519 interim director a whole lot. We've used 239 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,320 it a lot more in in other director 240 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:38,320 roles. So, um I talked with a little bit 241 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,640 with Yolando about that as an option as 242 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,479 well too. Um and that typically it goes 243 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,200 to a non-bargaining staff member because 244 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:47,040 it's under the non-bargaining policy. Um 245 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,760 and so if that was something that you 246 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,680 wish to appoint an interim simply 247 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,080 because there is just work that does 248 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:56,800 continue um Yolando in the director 249 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,720 being a VSO that veteran service officer 250 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,680 that workload obviously still has to get 251 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,640 done. Uh so you could uh explore having 252 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:07,040 that um just to keep things moving and 253 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,560 of course for the workload that those 254 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,480 individuals are taking we do have the 255 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:11,920 ability to put them into a temporary 256 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,839 assignment. I do think non-bargaining 257 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,040 though says it has to be more expected 258 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:19,440 to last like 60 days. Um and this is a 259 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,360 pretty short at least in our previous 260 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,680 recruitment it was [snorts] 261 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,920 uh we were able to replace um the 262 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:27,519 position uh more quickly than say for 263 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,880 example like our public health director 264 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:31,519 which went [clears throat] on for nearly 265 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,399 a year right and so Caitlyn at that time 266 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:36,880 was interim um because it was a a longer 267 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:39,120 standing vacancy that we had expected um 268 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,640 because we'd been using that executive 269 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:44,720 search committee that external search 270 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:46,240 committee um so anyways uh that is an 271 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,320 option but I believe The policy says 272 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,800 it's expected that it would be for a 273 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,120 period of 60 days or more. So, 274 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,880 » Yeah, and I met with Yolando as well and 275 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,959 talked with Henry um just to let 276 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,800 everyone know too, but I I don't think 277 00:09:56,959 --> 00:10:00,160 there Yolanda was going to be thinking 278 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,920 about that, but I think he thought the 279 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,519 office would probably function very 280 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,279 well, but with the assistance probably 281 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:06,880 of some of the board members coming in 282 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,440 to sign checks and approve things and 283 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,200 that type of thing. So yeah, I guess we 284 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,480 have a quick timeline, you know, would 285 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,880 help too. But [snorts] 286 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,720 » If it if we don't if the posting gets, 287 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 you know, further out, then you would 288 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,399 expect that's going to be a longer lead 289 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,720 time where it would make sense to fall 290 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:24,320 under to have that um appointment. But 291 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,640 if it's going to, you know, happen in 292 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,800 the next week or two, uh I would expect 293 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,320 that we would be able to get the job 294 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,160 posted. The last posting, as I shared 295 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,240 with you, we had a 30-day posting, but 296 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,320 we put a preference date of two weeks 297 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,320 that met that veteran preference um 298 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,399 requirement, and we did have plenty of 299 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,160 candidates that were qualified and began 300 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:44,560 that interview process with the search 301 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,600 committee. Um the search committee, I 302 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:49,839 didn't find any formal action um in a 303 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,360 board meeting or minutes, but it 304 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:52,800 essentially it's always been some kind 305 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,040 of partnership between the board of 306 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,040 supervisors, the VA commission as the VA 307 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,959 recommends, the board approves, and then 308 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,279 it's included HR. So, we're just 309 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:04,480 recommending to continue that um 310 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:07,920 process, but we could explore just HR 311 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,920 and VA. Um, but I think it works well to 312 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,399 have 313 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 multiple. 314 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:13,600 » It did. It did. When we hired Yolando, 315 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,519 we thought it was a great process in 316 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,600 place and it had the couple of the board 317 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:20,560 members or their commissioners and then 318 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,920 a board member and then HR involved. So, 319 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:23,680 » Okay. 320 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,800 » So, that's a lot of what we're focused 321 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:28,000 on right now. Um, any other questions on 322 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,880 uh that process? 323 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,079 » No, I appreciate it. 324 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,600 » Just [clears throat] just a quick one on 325 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:34,640 the 326 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,399 two week versus 30-day. 327 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,680 Are we allowed under state code to just 328 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:42,160 post it for 2 weeks or 15 days or does 329 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:44,320 it have to be 30 and have that? 330 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,959 » It has at a minimum it has to be 10 331 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,720 days. Okay, 332 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:48,480 » That's any position here at the county. 333 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,279 We all are subject to veterans 334 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,440 preference um law. So at a minimum any 335 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:55,440 county position has to be posted uh for 336 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,440 10 days outside of course internal 337 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,279 bidding. It's just whenever that vacancy 338 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,800 comes if you post externally. So no you 339 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:03,040 don't have to do 30 days. Okay. 340 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,560 » You could just shorten it to the 10 days 341 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,519 or two weeks. 342 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:06,639 » Um 343 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,920 » And yeah. 344 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:08,240 » So 345 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,760 » Um 346 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,440 » I think and we've kept some open like 347 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,279 until the positions filled depending on 348 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,800 how many applicants you get. But I sure 349 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,639 » Think we've all felt there might be some 350 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,959 really excellent [snorts] applicants. 351 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:21,680 Plenty of them like there were before. 352 00:12:18,959 --> 00:12:23,680 We'll see. 353 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,000 » Big shoes to fill. We said everybody. 354 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:25,839 » Yes. 355 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,760 » Yeah. Thank you. Thanks so much. 356 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:29,200 » We'll be just following up with both the 357 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,079 board and the VA commission throughout 358 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 the next, [snorts] you know, week just 359 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:33,200 to kind of continue to move this along, 360 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,040 but it does need to come before the 361 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,480 board um to authorize the posting. So, 362 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,959 if you have any questions for me outside 363 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,399 of that, um feel free to reach out. Um 364 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:44,399 otherwise, uh HR has been busy, uh we 365 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,320 just finished up a coaching series with 366 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:47,920 an executive coach, um out of Cedar 367 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,320 Rapids. Her name's Jackie Paland. It was 368 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,360 a really um excellent coaching series 369 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,800 and we're recommending that for um other 370 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,399 managers throughout the county and 371 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,560 elected officials and department heads. 372 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:00,959 So, we are planning to budget for that 373 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,639 to have six coaches go through a very 374 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:04,160 similar series. It's a more in-depth 375 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:07,920 learning process when it comes to 376 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,680 coaching um uh your workforce. And so, 377 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,440 uh highly recommend that. And she's 378 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:12,959 actually back here to work with the 379 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,040 sheriff's office. She'll be presenting 380 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:16,560 to their teams about healthy team 381 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,480 members and what a healthy team looks 382 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,880 like. and that will be at all three 383 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,880 sessions of their training in November. 384 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Um so we you will see in our budget 385 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,600 we're kind of burning through our 386 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,040 training budget um with we had 387 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,800 leadership university um and uh a few 388 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 and again like this executive coaching 389 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,639 series that the HR team did which is in 390 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,000 place of the national conference. So we 391 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:38,480 will not be attending a national 392 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,959 conference um this year. So it was a 393 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,480 little bit 394 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:42,560 » We have one more session with TED as 395 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,079 well in December do we not? 396 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:46,800 » That's a great question. So yeah, so 397 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:48,639 that's part of the um strategic planning 398 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,120 kind of reviewing at that that there 399 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:53,839 should I haven't confirmed yet a date 400 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,760 but um bringing in those champions and 401 00:13:53,839 --> 00:13:58,560 the department heads ones and twos and 402 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:02,639 the board um sometime in December to 403 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:04,560 just kind of have a a session on 404 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:05,920 strategic plan year one, what was 405 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,579 accomplished and then of course we have 406 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,720 the next priorities, right? and making 407 00:14:07,579 --> 00:14:11,199 [clears throat] sure that the champions 408 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,839 are assigned for the next uh four items 409 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:16,079 which um if you look at our plan I 410 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:19,040 believe it's employee engagement work 411 00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:21,199 life balance is one strategic reserves 412 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,399 is another uh there's one about the 413 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:23,680 criminal [snorts] justice system and 414 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:26,560 then I want to say there's one about 415 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,560 revenue so yes [snorts] that would be 416 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,600 what that December meeting would be uh 417 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:34,160 would to just uh kind of realign and and 418 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,399 set the next stage for those champions 419 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,440 to do the same work that uh the first 420 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:41,440 round of champions did um in arriving at 421 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,079 plans. 422 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,079 So, 423 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:47,600 » I've been wondering about that as well 424 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:49,120 coming up in December if that would be u 425 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,800 a date where we should also look at 426 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:56,160 maybe the new elected uh supervisors 427 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:59,279 and currently meeting with Ted to 428 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,720 continue that what we got started. Try 429 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:03,040 and make sure they understand where 430 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,199 we've been on this and moving it 431 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,399 forward. Yeah, I maybe that one I don't 432 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:07,519 know. But I was going to say that's one 433 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:09,040 of the things after the election 434 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:10,639 sometimes we've usually tried to do is 435 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,920 include them or invite them to some of 436 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:14,240 the sessions that we know would be 437 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,920 helpful to them as well as some of the 438 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,519 things that we do like the legislative 439 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 priorities and that type of thing when 440 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:20,480 we do it. So 441 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,399 » I just don't want to lose what we the 442 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,000 momentum we got going with this new 443 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:25,199 strategic plan and all we've been doing 444 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 with staff. 445 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:28,639 » Uh I know we're going to have a big 446 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,720 change over here, but I I don't want to 447 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:33,440 lose that momentum that we've put in 448 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,880 motion. I will uh I know Ted and I have 449 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,920 talked about that as well. I think it 450 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:41,199 makes sense to invite um and yeah that 451 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,120 that we can have that after of course 452 00:15:41,199 --> 00:15:45,360 December be after the election and I 453 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,760 think that would be an opportunity to 454 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,480 help bridge that. Um but then of course 455 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,959 there may come January, February, even 456 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,560 just getting the uh other board members 457 00:15:52,959 --> 00:15:56,079 oriented with our strategic plan, 458 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,839 there'll be probably a bit of a lift 459 00:15:56,079 --> 00:16:00,399 with that as well. Um but I think that's 460 00:15:57,839 --> 00:16:04,079 a good idea. And um I know we talked 461 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:05,120 about kind of planning it that way. So 462 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:06,240 um the other thing I just want to 463 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,839 mention, we're our office [cough] has 464 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,759 already received notification for 465 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:12,399 collective bargaining um from our 466 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:14,880 unions. We have wage reopeners um as you 467 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:19,440 recall for um the last two years of the 468 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:21,040 existing um contracts. And so, uh, I 469 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,120 have been in talks with, uh, our 470 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,120 attorney out of Allers and Cooney, Mike 471 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,279 Galloway, and he just encouraged that I 472 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,920 reach out to you all about, um, setting 473 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:31,600 up a time to discuss that, and I will be 474 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,440 probably putting that out as a close 475 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,600 session for this board. But, of course, 476 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,040 the same thing, thinking about, um, with 477 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,839 the election that we'll have other board 478 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,279 members. So, um, but I do plan to just 479 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:44,160 talk with this board about that. So, 480 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:46,399 just if there is a date that, um, does 481 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,040 not work for all five of you, uh, please 482 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:50,639 let me know. If there's something in um 483 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,600 probably November that doesn't work, 484 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:56,399 just let me know. But we'll be uh 485 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,560 starting that process. So, any questions 486 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:00,079 on collective bargaining? Just wage 487 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,680 reopeners with the exception of the two 488 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:04,480 public safety unions, they'll also have 489 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:09,000 benefits open. So, but otherwise, all 490 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,000 other contract language stays the same. 491 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,439 » All right. 492 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,799 » Thank you very much. 493 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:16,640 » Thank you. 494 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:19,280 » I have an update. Speaking of an 495 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,600 election coming up, uh ballots are 496 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,280 available tomorrow. So, if you have 497 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,959 requested to have a ballot meal to you, 498 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,280 those will be sent over to the post 499 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:29,120 office tomorrow. It also means that 500 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,200 voting here at the courthouse will also 501 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:33,280 begin tomorrow. Um, and that will be 502 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,440 down in the basement. For larger 503 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,120 elections, we do that in the basement. 504 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Otherwise, I'm sure my colleagues on the 505 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:42,640 second floor appreciate that we've moved 506 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,880 that down to the basement since we take 507 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,799 up the whole floor. So, we did that for 508 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:51,280 the first time in 2024 and it worked 509 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:53,840 really well. Um, because and I hope that 510 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,000 this is the same for 26, but in 24 we 511 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,679 were seeing 1,000 people a day, so it 512 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,640 works really well to do that down in the 513 00:17:57,679 --> 00:18:01,039 basement. [clears throat] 514 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,120 » We also have seven different satellite 515 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:06,400 voting locations. All of that can be 516 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:08,240 found on our website. Um, starting 517 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,640 tomorrow, essentially, there would be a 518 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,960 voting opportunity every day starting 519 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,679 tomorrow with the exception of Sunday. 520 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,880 uh leading up to election day. So, here 521 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:18,559 we are. 522 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,160 » For sure. I heard something on the news 523 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:22,320 today, too. So, they're starting to get 524 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,000 the word out, too, for you. 525 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,039 » No wonder we can't use a conference room 526 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,840 no more. [snorts] 527 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:29,919 » Yeah, that'll be Yeah, it's off already. 528 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:33,360 Clinics and everything else. So, yeah, 529 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:37,679 just continue. Thank you. 530 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:39,440 Anyone online that has an update? 531 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:40,960 Great. Move on to item five. Minutes 532 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,640 approved for the regular and the work 533 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,600 session held on October 6, 2026. 534 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,559 » So moved. 535 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,840 » Second. 536 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,160 » All in favor say I. 537 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 » I. 538 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,160 » I. [clears throat] 539 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,000 » All same sign. Minutes are approved. 540 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Item six, the consent agenda. The 541 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,520 following items are acted upon by a 542 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,120 single resolution unless someone wishes 543 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,240 to remove one for discussion. 544 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,280 » So moved. 545 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,960 » Second. 546 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,840 » Resolution. Please answer. Your name is 547 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,640 called. 548 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,039 » Curtenbach. 549 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,600 » Yes. 550 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:06,000 » Hall. 551 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,200 » Yes. 552 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,679 » Schwarz. 553 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,160 » Yes. 554 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:09,440 » Grant. 555 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,559 » Yes. Leland. 556 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,400 » Yes. [clears throat] 557 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:13,919 Item seven, agreements and contracts. 558 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,600 This is a resolution that the agreement 559 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:17,520 for purchase of temporary easement 560 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,760 between Blackhawk County and the city of 561 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Cedar Falls, Iowa, granting a temporary 562 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,200 construction easement at 2602 Union Road 563 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,760 for the Union Road and West 27th Street 564 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,160 intersection improvements project for 565 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,000 the consideration of the sum of 0 to be 566 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,679 approved and direct the chair to sign 567 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,200 for same as recommended by Katherine 568 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:38,960 Nicholas, county engineer. 569 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,320 » So moved. Second. Uh good morning again 570 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,080 board. I've told you in the past that 571 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,919 the city of Sedar Falls would like to 572 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,120 build construct a roundabout at this 573 00:19:43,919 --> 00:19:49,120 intersection. As you know we continue to 574 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:52,640 the Blackhawk County continues to have a 575 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:54,640 shop at that at that corner. Uh the city 576 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,720 of Cedar Falls is asking us just for a 577 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,640 temporary easement as they did in 2020 578 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,600 when they uh constructed the bicycle 579 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,360 lane through that same corridor. Uh this 580 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,600 would be a donation. I'm recommending 581 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:07,360 that we just give them this temporary 582 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,360 easement. I think it had a value of 583 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:11,039 approximately $3,000, but I'm 584 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:13,679 recommending that we um be good 585 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:17,480 neighbors and just donate this to them. 586 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:17,480 Can I answer any questions? 587 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,000 » Kathy, quick question. I know this is 588 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,840 the one on Union Road and 27th, but will 589 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,039 we be having another one for the 590 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:33,679 roundabout going in at is it Union Road 591 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:35,840 in University or is that 592 00:20:33,679 --> 00:20:37,760 that isn't our property there? I I 593 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,000 believe that's 594 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,840 a little ways out that they're not to 595 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,880 this point where they're acquiring right 596 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,480 away. We we we are in the know. We have 597 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,919 knowledge of that, but we haven't I 598 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,960 don't think they're that far along on 599 00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:52,559 that roundabout. 600 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,080 » Do you know how long that project's 601 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:58,320 going to be for the uh that they'll need 602 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,679 the easement cuz then we'll get it back 603 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,520 afterwards. Is that right? Yes, they'll 604 00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:06,320 they'll remove the easement probably 605 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,559 12 to 18 months is is just a guess. I I 606 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,840 haven't talked to them in detail about 607 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:13,360 the construction schedule. 608 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,299 » Okay, fair enough. 609 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,760 » Thank you. 610 00:21:15,299 --> 00:21:17,280 [clears throat and cough] This is the 611 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,840 resolution. Please answer your name is 612 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,480 called 613 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,960 » Hall. 614 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,520 » Yes. 615 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,919 » Grant, 616 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,640 » Yes. 617 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:21,039 » Binbach, 618 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,159 » Yes. 619 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:22,640 » Schwarz, 620 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:23,440 » Yes. 621 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,000 » Layen, 622 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,919 » Yes. Item eight, other business. Motion 623 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,760 to direct staff to publicize a vacancy 624 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:32,559 on the board of health effective January 625 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,240 1, 2027, including the qualifications 626 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,919 required for interested parties as 627 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,240 recommended by Caitlyn Emerick. 628 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:39,600 » So move second. 629 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,840 » All in favor say I. 630 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,400 » I. [clears throat] 631 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,640 » Motion carries. Item B, resolution that 632 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,080 the 2026 weed commissioners report be 633 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,440 approved and direct the chair to sign 634 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,919 for sale as [clears throat] submitted by 635 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,360 Griffin Sabala, Blackhawk County Weed 636 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:55,760 Commissioner. So moved. 637 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,280 » Second. 638 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,360 Good morning board. Griffin Spalker, 639 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,919 roadside biologist. Um, weed 640 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:04,960 commissioner. I was Do you have any 641 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:07,200 questions on this? Uh, this year there 642 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,360 wasn't really much that changed. We had 643 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,000 a pile of rain, so all the weeds grew 644 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:16,559 and all the trees grew. So, we it was a 645 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:20,880 busy year. And um I will say um as 646 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:23,200 effective July 1st um a new noxious weed 647 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,840 was added to the list um Japanese 648 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,200 notweed which is becoming a problem. Uh 649 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,720 we have some spots around the county 650 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,600 that we manage under the roads 651 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:36,559 department, but um I sent out letters to 652 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,280 um land owners and parcel and parcel 653 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:41,760 numbers throughout the county of quite a 654 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,320 few in the city that we found out um 655 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,280 [clears throat] 656 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,720 just by um just spotting it and working 657 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,120 with the city of Wateroo and Cedar 658 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:54,320 Falls. um that just um stating that this 659 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:56,240 law has changed effective um July 1st 660 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,000 and that 661 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,799 um basically you need to take care of 662 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:04,000 this. Um obviously it's late in the year 663 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:07,600 so I I know how challenging of a weed 664 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,679 this is to manage. So um I'm giving them 665 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,600 a little more grace, but um it is 666 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:14,559 becoming a problem throughout the the 667 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,559 city and and around the county. So, um, 668 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,159 if you have any questions about that one 669 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:20,320 specifically, 670 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:23,360 um, I can give you information about 671 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,760 when when that was effective and, um, 672 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,840 the house file and all that stuff. So, 673 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:31,760 um, if anybody calls in, you'd have that 674 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:34,080 cuz, um, on the weed list, um, in the 675 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Iowa code, it doesn't get updated near 676 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,320 as fast as what it does when it comes 677 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,159 out. So, if you have questions on that 678 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,039 or people have contacted you about 679 00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:42,676 things, 680 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,440 » How many weeds are on that list? 681 00:23:42,676 --> 00:23:45,280 [clears throat and cough] 682 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,360 » Oh, there's two lists. They're kind of 683 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,159 vary, but there's primary and secondary 684 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:53,600 list. That was number 685 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:56,080 16 or 18 that was added on to the um 686 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Iowa code 317, and then there's Iowa 687 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:04,159 Code 58. So, that's also that we had to 688 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,440 abide by. So, yes, there's quite a few. 689 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:08,000 Griffin, I was wondering if you could 690 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,279 maybe work with Gabby to do a post with 691 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,880 some images so people can know what 692 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:14,799 they're looking for. Um I'm a big 693 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,159 gardener, but that's not one I'm even 694 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,200 familiar with. So, 695 00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:20,480 » Sure. 696 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:24,480 » Yeah, we did a field day um a couple of 697 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:27,760 weeks ago with the um at Katakoski Green 698 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,679 Belt Park there. Um unfortunately, City 699 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,559 of Water has a big old patch right next 700 00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:36,159 to their uh pavilion there. So um we 701 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:39,840 have members of conservation um water um 702 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:42,320 city and parks and then um myself and 703 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,720 just just a little education piece on it 704 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,240 and the law change and how to get rid of 705 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,039 it, the life cycle of it, that type of 706 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,799 stuff. So yeah, there'll probably be 707 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,960 more to more to come with that as it 708 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:57,640 becomes as I send more and more letters 709 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,640 out and more I find. So yes, 710 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:02,480 » Any other questions? 711 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,799 I'm researching knotweed as we speak. 712 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,720 » Yeah, it's um pretty nasty. It can grow 713 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,720 through asphalt, so we really don't want 714 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,120 that. Foundations of homes, things like 715 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,960 that. So, it's very aggressive. 716 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:18,559 » Um it excels 717 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:21,279 » Um by growth of it can even if you mow 718 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:24,000 it, it can grow from plant tissue, seed, 719 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,760 and uh riseal structure of its roots. 720 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Well, it pretty much is almost an 721 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,559 indestructible plant that uh we now have 722 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,279 to deal with here in the state. So, 723 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:31,840 » That's fun. 724 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:33,279 » Yes. 725 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,679 » Made in a lab. That's what it sounds 726 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,440 like. 727 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:40,320 » Oh, yeah. Uh somewhere in uh one of the 728 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Asian countries it came from. So, yeah. 729 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,400 » Japan probably. 730 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600 » Yeah. Japan. Some some Asian country. 731 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,480 Yeah. But, uh 732 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000 » Interesting. 733 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,520 » Nope. It was probably planted as 734 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,120 ornamental. Everybody thought it looked 735 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760 nice and now we have a problem with it. 736 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,240 So, 737 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,480 » Oh, no. 738 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,080 » Yep. That's how it always goes. 739 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,679 » Thanks, Griffin. You bet. 740 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,159 » Any other questions? 741 00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:00,720 » Any other 742 00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:02,320 » Thanks, [clears throat] ma'am. 743 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,120 » This is a resolution. Please answer your 744 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,919 name as caller. 745 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,480 » Curtain box. 746 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:05,039 » Yes. 747 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,440 » Paul, 748 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,000 » Yes. 749 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,559 » Briant, 750 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,679 » Yes. 751 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,480 » Wartz, 752 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:09,440 » Yes. 753 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,320 » Leilen, 754 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,000 » Yes. Item C, resolution that the 755 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,440 appointment of Griffin, I believe it's 756 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,799 Kabala, correct? I think Sabulka is what 757 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,400 I go back and forth. As the 2027 758 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,840 Blackout County Weed Commissioner be 759 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,400 approved as recommended by Kathy 760 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Nichols, yeah, county engineer. 761 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,679 » So moved. Second. 762 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,799 » Good morning again, board. So per the 763 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:34,880 Iowa code in this county, the engineer 764 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:37,440 recommends the read commissioner for the 765 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,600 duty every year. So I'm recommending 766 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Griffin. He's been doing a nice job. I 767 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,640 will say that this is a countywide job. 768 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,559 It's not just out in the county. it's in 769 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,799 the cities, the incorporated areas as 770 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:51,279 well. So, like uh Griffin was telling 771 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,360 you, he is corresponding with people in 772 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:55,279 inside the city limits of various 773 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:58,559 communities where he's seeing these 774 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,400 obnoxious weeds on the the state list. 775 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:02,559 So, I would like to recommend Griffin 776 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,279 again for the ne the upcoming year in 777 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,799 this position. 778 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,760 » This is a resolution. Please answer your 779 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:08,400 name is called. 780 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,880 » Bryant, 781 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,919 » Yes. 782 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,480 » Schwarz, 783 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:10,960 » Yes. 784 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,279 » Paul, 785 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,000 » Yes. 786 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,400 » Curtinbach, 787 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,120 » Yes. 788 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000 » Leilen, 789 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,919 » Yes. 790 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,600 Item D, motion to approve the personnel 791 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:20,320 requisition submitted for a heavy 792 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,320 equipment mechanic full-time replacement 793 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,200 as recommended by Katherine Nicholas, 794 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760 county engineer. 795 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,480 » So move second. 796 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:32,240 » Uh this uh position is becoming vacant 797 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,720 due to a resignation from one of our uh 798 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,120 heavy equipment mechanics. 799 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,200 This is a much needed position for us. 800 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,200 uh we are uh starting to get into the 801 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,919 winter equipment [clears throat] process 802 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,919 of installing the uh of course the 803 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:48,080 plows, taking care of the trucks through 804 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:50,960 the winter. So we're very anxious to 805 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,360 fill this position and by um authorizing 806 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,279 this this morning that will allow um HR 807 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:57,760 to post it for us and we can begin the 808 00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:00,480 process. 809 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,039 This would be per the union contract um 810 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,880 etc. 811 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,840 » All in favor say I. I 812 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,919 » I 813 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,000 » Post same sign. 814 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:12,880 Motion carries. Item E. This is a 815 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,840 resolution that the 55 mileph speed 816 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080 zones [clears throat] for various 817 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,480 secondary roads throughout Black County 818 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,960 be established in appropriate signs be 819 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,039 erected at the designated locations as 820 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 recommended by Katherine Nicholas, 821 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,640 county engineer. 822 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,640 » So moved. 823 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,640 » Second. 824 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,360 » Okay. Board. I wanted to 825 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:36,080 update you on where we where we left uh 826 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:38,799 the speed limit resolution a few weeks 827 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,200 ago and I just wanted to show you a few 828 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:43,039 slides that actually came out of the 829 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,080 presentation from two weeks ago just to 830 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:48,559 get us all on the same page. Uh review 831 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,919 how we got here. So, as you recall, 832 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:54,000 effective uh July 1st of this year, uh 833 00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:56,080 Governor Reynolds did sign into law that 834 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,734 all primary and secondary roads, the 835 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,520 speed limits would become 836 00:28:57,734 --> 00:29:02,399 [snorts and clears throat] 60 mph on all 837 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,360 concrete and asphalt um secondary and 838 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:08,880 primary roads. If you read the code of 839 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,720 Iowa 321.8285, 8285 840 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,559 section 4. It does give the county 841 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,240 boards of supervisors authority to 842 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:18,320 establish [clears throat] 843 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,919 a lower speed where the statu statutory 844 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,080 speed limit is greater than reasonable 845 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:26,320 and proper based on an engineering and 846 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:29,120 traffic investigation or study. Uh so at 847 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,000 that time I came to you on June 30th 848 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,640 with a resolution to just keep this the 849 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,600 roads at 55 mph while the engineering 850 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,720 department was able to complete some 851 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,679 traffic investigations or studies. 852 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Uh we did drive all the roads and took a 853 00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:50,799 look at took a look at this subject. So 854 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,799 that's when I came back to you and two 855 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:55,520 weeks ago based on our preliminary 856 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:58,080 investigations and studies recommending 857 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,799 that we keep the speed limit at 55 miles 858 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,760 per hour. We also did you also did hear 859 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:07,120 from the sheriff's office. We also spoke 860 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,120 with the sheriff's office in um 861 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,480 had several meetings with them. We also 862 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,480 spoke with the state patrol. 863 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,320 After that meeting, I told you we were 864 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,120 going to finish up our engineering 865 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,799 studies. We we did not finish them 866 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,799 before that meeting because there were 867 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:25,200 they were a lot of work and we wanted to 868 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,440 make sure that we had your 869 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,279 buy in that you were would go along with 870 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:34,000 this uh keeping the roads at 55 mph. So, 871 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:37,279 we have now finished those engineering 872 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,080 studies investigations. I believe I sent 873 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,760 you a copy of one. We have um all of 874 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,440 those available. We can certainly post 875 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,279 those engineering um studies on our 876 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,039 website. 877 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,720 I told you at that time I would be 878 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,559 bringing this back to you in a couple 879 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,919 weeks 880 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,840 and we would come back with some 881 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:58,720 resolutions. We we decided to come back 882 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,480 to you with 29 separate speed zones but 883 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,799 only in one resolution. We just felt 884 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:09,120 that was a cleaner way to go about this. 885 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:10,720 Uh and then once this has been the 886 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,760 resolution has been passed for these 887 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,941 speed zones, we will notify our 888 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,880 neighboring counties and we 889 00:31:15,941 --> 00:31:19,880 [clears throat] will start placing 890 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,880 signs. 891 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:27,440 So I apologize for this um the font on 892 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:30,799 this. So since September of 20, 893 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,480 excuse me, since September 22nd, we have 894 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,960 completed our engineering and traffic 895 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,480 investigation studies. They are not 896 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,640 exhaustive 897 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,240 engineering studies. We did follow the 898 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,480 manual and uniform traffic control 899 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,880 devices. Uh we looked at the roadway 900 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,760 environment, roadway characteristics, 901 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,799 the geographical time context. We did 902 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,399 look at crash data and we looked at past 903 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:56,559 engineering studies that had been 904 00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:59,760 completed on any of these routes. 905 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:02,159 There is a provision in the MUTCD that 906 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,840 allows for agencies, cities, and 907 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:05,440 counties 908 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,720 that one thing we should study is the 909 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,600 85th percentile of the speed on all 910 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,679 these corridors. We did not do that. We 911 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,440 are not traffic engineers. We would have 912 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:19,760 to we would most likely have to hire 913 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,760 traffic engineers to do these studies. 914 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,600 In the past, we have changed speed 915 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,600 limits in the county, for example, near 916 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,480 smaller communities where we want to 917 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,957 lower the speed limit. We have not done 918 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200 traffic studies 919 00:32:29,957 --> 00:32:33,039 [clears throat and cough] of the 85th 920 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,080 percentile to change those speed limits 921 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:38,880 as well. We have just uh take used our 922 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,200 engineering judgment and we were able to 923 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:46,279 change those and pass resolutions for 924 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,279 those those areas. 925 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,840 We also did not just a moment here. Let 926 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,192 me change the font here so you can uh 927 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,212 see this. 928 00:32:54,192 --> 00:32:56,212 [clears throat] 929 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,399 We also did not complete an exhaustive 930 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,320 look at the vertical curves, the 931 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:15,919 horizontal curves, the no passing zones 932 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,960 on all of our roads. That would have 933 00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:21,120 required us to go out most likely with 934 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,000 with a GPS, have our survey technician 935 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:28,000 go out with a GPS and run the profile of 936 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,159 all these county roads. 937 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,519 We would then place that in CAD and we 938 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:36,080 could based on uh the standards that I 939 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,080 talked to you about two weeks ago, we 940 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,320 could see how these no passing zones, 941 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,880 how the vertical curves, how all of our 942 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,840 driveways, how they meet the current 943 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,600 standards. We know that there are places 944 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,760 out in the county where driveways, no 945 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,480 passing zones, they do not meet the 946 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,640 standard for for 55 miles per hour, 947 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,320 maybe not even for 50 m an hour in some 948 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840 locations. 949 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,320 This would have taken us many more 950 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,880 months to complete this if we had done 951 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,960 that exhaustive of a study on all of our 952 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,039 routes. 953 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,720 So, we used engineering judgment which 954 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:11,119 is allowed by the manual and uniform 955 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:12,639 traffic control device. 956 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,480 And 957 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,320 uh we discussed this in the engineering 958 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,320 studies 959 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,240 as well. If you look at each individual 960 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,800 study, you'll see a brief discussion of 961 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:23,800 all of these factors. 962 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:31,119 Uh so today as I mentioned we have 963 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,760 completed all the studies at this point 964 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,520 and there are 29 separate studies or 965 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,919 investigations. We would like to 966 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,760 establish 29 separate speed zones 967 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:44,560 and we have given that information to 968 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,119 Lori and as I understand it those speed 969 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,960 zones would be recorded in the minutes. 970 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,200 I'm asking you to do this with one 971 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,399 resolution. 972 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:58,000 Um and the resolution recommends that 973 00:34:54,399 --> 00:35:01,599 all of these secondary roads be 55 miles 974 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,200 hour to establish in establish that 975 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,200 speed zone. And that would allow us to 976 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,320 place the signs at the designated 977 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:12,000 locations. I told you uh two weeks ago 978 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,000 that currently we have about 50 speed 979 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,320 limit signs out in the county, which is 980 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,160 quite a lot by many county standards, 981 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,359 but we feel like we need at least 50 982 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,560 more signs to be in compliance with 983 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:26,154 MUTCD because we are differing from many 984 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,680 of our surrounding counties 985 00:35:26,154 --> 00:35:29,920 [clears throat] and then at 986 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,839 intersections with DOT routes. So, we 987 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,599 would uh we will be establishing more 988 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:35,599 speed limits. We know that that has been 989 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:38,000 a concern from the public that they just 990 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,839 don't know what the speed limit is. Um 991 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,320 we also heard similar concerns from law 992 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:46,320 enforcement. So, we will be establishing 993 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:51,079 placing numerous additional signs out on 994 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,079 the uh secondary road system. 995 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:56,800 » Can I answer any questions at this time? 996 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:00,400 Kathy, we have areas that are around 997 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:03,119 homes and stuff are like 45 and 35 and 998 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,320 this does not change any of those. They 999 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,000 they remain the same there. 1000 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,119 » Correct. That's a good point, 1001 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,280 supervisor, that those existing lower 1002 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:13,760 speed limits around smaller communities 1003 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,359 in particular, they're mainly around 1004 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,440 smaller counties. Those would be 1005 00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:21,920 accepted. And if you look at the um the 1006 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,560 speed zone language that we've included 1007 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,200 with all the which would be in the 1008 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:30,640 minutes, it does say except 1009 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,200 as otherwise accepted or as otherwise 1010 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,200 previously established. 1011 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:42,079 Kathy, uh do you know anything about um 1012 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,960 the process by which this information 1013 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:48,400 eventually trickles to 1014 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:52,000 um like the various um GPS based like 1015 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,480 mapping like services like Google or or 1016 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Map Quest or whatever. Um cuz I I 1017 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,119 definitely notice sometimes 1018 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,359 the speed limit that it's showing up on 1019 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,520 there is is wrong. usually in the in the 1020 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:06,079 other direction. Usually it's 10 miles 1021 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,599 under what it actually is, but I'm just 1022 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:11,200 » Wondering if you know anything about how 1023 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,680 the DOT eventually feeds that 1024 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,400 information into those systems. 1025 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,480 » So, I know a little bit about that. I 1026 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,320 don't know exhaustive amounts of 1027 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,119 information on that. We we have been in 1028 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,280 contact for example by some uh various 1029 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:27,520 trucking companies that want to 1030 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,040 establish their own speed limits to make 1031 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,160 sure that their drivers are following 1032 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,160 the the lawful speed limit. We are going 1033 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,359 to get back to those companies that we 1034 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:40,400 have been contacted with. We do the DOT 1035 00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:42,160 is asking for updates every year on this 1036 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,160 type of information. They've again asked 1037 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:50,160 us to update our information. Uh the 511 1038 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:53,119 system we know gets that data from the 1039 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,359 information we feed the DOT. I believe 1040 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:58,320 that so do 1041 00:37:55,359 --> 00:38:00,240 Google. So we do rely a lot on the DOT 1042 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,839 once we provide that information to them 1043 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,160 that they are um disseminating the 1044 00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:07,119 information. We do have a few sources 1045 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,119 like I've said where they've 1046 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:11,520 specifically reached out to us where we 1047 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:15,760 will get back to them 1048 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,839 with that information. So we um we are 1049 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,720 complying with what uh the DOT would 1050 00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:23,359 like us to as well as a few other um 1051 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:25,359 private organizations to get this 1052 00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:28,920 information out. 1053 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:28,920 » Okay. Thank you. 1054 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,320 Do you know 1055 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,599 you said you have contacted or been in 1056 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200 communication with those counties 1057 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,280 surrounding 1058 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,920 » Are any of them and I mean maybe just 1059 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:48,400 generally are other counties taking the 1060 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:51,200 same approach or are we sort of unique? 1061 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Uh 1062 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,079 » Yeah. So, 1063 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,480 our surrounding counties pretty much 1064 00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:00,160 have gone to 60 mph. Our immediately 1065 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,079 surrounding counties, there were a few 1066 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,920 routes that a few of them told me they 1067 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:08,400 wanted to study and possibly 1068 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,079 keep at 55 miles hour. There are a 1069 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,400 handful of counties who have done a 1070 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,720 blanket wide approach that we have and 1071 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,160 there are some counties that are still 1072 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:20,560 studying the issue. Um I was talking 1073 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,320 with um the Wesi County Engineer 1074 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,839 yesterday and he wants to take a very 1075 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,760 exhaustive look at some of their uh 1076 00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:31,440 corridors just due to the hilly nature 1077 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:34,320 of that part of the state. So, I think 1078 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,880 we're all 1079 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,680 approaching this from our own from our 1080 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,520 own county's perspective, but there are 1081 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,359 some that there are several other 1082 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:47,280 counties that have um [clears throat] 1083 00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:49,839 where the speed limit has remained 55 1084 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,640 mph. 1085 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:54,079 » And and Kathy, in some of those 1086 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,000 locations where we're crossing from one 1087 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,599 county to another, of course, you can 1088 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,119 always tell because the road quality 1089 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:05,119 gets better as you enter Blackhawk 1090 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:06,720 County. Um but um will we have um speed 1091 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,920 limit signs at those locations 1092 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,119 particularly where people are crossing 1093 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,200 the county line? 1094 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:14,720 » Yes, those in particular we know we want 1095 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,720 to get out there as soon as we can as 1096 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:20,880 soon as these resol this resolution has 1097 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:22,800 passed and I I believe I haven't checked 1098 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,400 uh in the past few days if we've gotten 1099 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,640 all the signs we need from prison 1100 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,720 industries. I know. I think we were out 1101 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,040 placing uh doing locates so that we 1102 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:33,359 could place the the posts on the ground 1103 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,200 before it freezes because there the 1104 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:37,760 signs were backorded, I believe. So, 1105 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,000 we're trying to get those up as as soon 1106 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,000 as possible. 1107 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,599 » Kathy, I know you mentioned that in the 1108 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,640 um minutes that would reflect all 29 of 1109 00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,040 those separate 1110 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,119 » Yes. 1111 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,640 » Speed zones. Do you want that reflected 1112 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:54,720 in the resolution as well rather than 1113 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,160 just saying for various secondary roads 1114 00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:01,480 throughout Blackhawk County? 1115 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,480 » I guess I would defer to Mike on that. 1116 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,760 » My understanding is that this is a 1117 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,319 written resolution and it has attached 1118 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,480 to it all of the 1119 00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:15,599 um all of the speed zones that are being 1120 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,119 passed by the single resolution. 1121 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:19,599 As long as we have the written 1122 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,800 resolution and that's what a half a 1123 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,880 page. I don't have it in front of me 1124 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,280 right now. [cough] I believe so because 1125 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,760 I've seen it before. As long [snorts] as 1126 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,319 that resolution, let's read that into 1127 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,480 the record and then we should be good as 1128 00:41:30,319 --> 00:41:36,000 long as it's clear that we've attached 1129 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,040 all the specific uh speed limits as part 1130 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,920 of that resolution. Does that make 1131 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,599 sense? 1132 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,680 » Are you saying we should agree it all? 1133 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,599 » I can just add it to the minutes, too. 1134 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,440 » Yep. I can just add the 1135 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,079 » I would just say yeah since [snorts] 1136 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:53,599 it's 29 separate speed zones numbered 1137 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:54,880 113 to 142 I don't know do that and then 1138 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,000 » I don't think we need to read through 1139 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,040 all 1140 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,960 » No that's all 1141 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,040 » The the document does state the roads 1142 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,319 and everything for each one of them 1143 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,280 » All right with you? 1144 00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:07,599 » Yep, that's fine. 1145 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,000 » Okay, great. 1146 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,960 » Any other questions for Kathy? Well, I 1147 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,400 just want to tell you guys, I do 1148 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,760 appreciate the work and time that you 1149 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,920 guys put in doing this. And 1150 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,720 uh it's just funny the the mixture of 1151 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,960 opinions we get from people on this, you 1152 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:26,160 know, and 1153 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,520 so I just wanted to throw out there. Uh 1154 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,240 a couple things that people told me over 1155 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,000 the last week or so was the confusion 1156 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:34,079 that we've referenced before, whether 1157 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,440 that be coming out of or into Blackhawk 1158 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:40,560 County, and it's 55 or 60 here or there, 1159 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:44,319 and then it uh consistency was kind of 1160 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,079 their their their wish. And so I guess 1161 00:42:44,319 --> 00:42:48,480 what I wanted to suggest, what I was 1162 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:50,400 hoping for was that maybe these longer 1163 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,880 stretches would be separated from some 1164 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,520 of the shorter ones, uh, like the CE, 1165 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,280 for instance, the Cedar Wapsy, uh, from 1166 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:04,800 Finchford east to D Buchanan County line 1167 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:07,359 being 23 almost 23 and a half miles. Um, 1168 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,280 would there be any possibility with some 1169 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:11,680 of those longer ones keeping those at 60 1170 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,240 or doing a separate resolution for the 1171 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:18,119 longer ones 12 plus miles in length 1172 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,119 versus the shorter ones 1173 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,359 » Or does that just overly complicate 1174 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,359 things? 1175 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:25,359 » Well, when you talk about consistency, I 1176 00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:26,880 think that I see with other counties 1177 00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:29,760 what you're thinking probably kind of 1178 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,560 blows the consistency within a county. 1179 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,359 » Yeah. 1180 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:36,480 » Same argument. But I don't know as far 1181 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:37,920 as the road stretches 1182 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,160 answer. I guess 1183 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,920 » We did talk about that um amongst 1184 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,640 ourselves in house and with the 1185 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,119 sheriff's office. I 1186 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,760 there was some consensus that it it 1187 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:52,000 would be 1188 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,200 safer for drivers, easier for 1189 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,440 enforcement if we kept we had a uniform 1190 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,599 speed limit in Blackhawk County. So we 1191 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:03,599 we definitely did consider that. 1192 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:06,160 » Right. Uh I 1193 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:11,720 I showed you uh examples of different 1194 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:11,720 situations around the county that uh 1195 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,760 were do not meet a standards for 60 m 1196 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,839 hour. There are some stretches on for 1197 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,240 example Cedar Wapsy Road like you said 1198 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:24,880 that's a very long stretch of road. 1199 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:28,400 However, in the middle of that we have 1200 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,480 the intersection at Highway 63 and Cedar 1201 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,599 Wapsy Road. We have Wagner Road and and 1202 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,640 Cedar Wapsy Road. We have 218 and and 1203 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:38,480 Cedar Wapsy Road. Uh some of those 1204 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,920 longer 1205 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,480 roads do have problems concerns 1206 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,960 themselves throughout the corridor and 1207 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,880 we were very hesitant to raise and lower 1208 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,880 the speed limit on that corridor for 1209 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,800 example in particular just due to some 1210 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,960 of those more dangerous intersections. 1211 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,280 uh we feel I feel that it is there is 1212 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,280 some merit in having a uniform speed 1213 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,240 limit throughout the county. Uh the 1214 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,160 public will know that that is the will 1215 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:08,000 come to know that that is the speed 1216 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,720 limit in rural Blackhawk County on the 1217 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,720 secondary road system. 1218 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,720 » There was a lot of inconsistency but I 1219 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:19,200 know we talked about all the people 1220 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,880 probably going over the speed limit 1221 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,680 anyway driving as they do everywhere 1222 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,359 else in the country. And so that would 1223 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,079 be consistent with what they'd be doing 1224 00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:29,839 again. But I said I I had to it wasn't 1225 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,680 funny really, but the gentleman was very 1226 00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:33,346 clear when he said, "I went 90 miles an 1227 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200 hour before and I'll go 90 miles an 1228 00:45:33,346 --> 00:45:36,960 [snorts] hour after." So it didn't make 1229 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,359 any difference. And I think that's 1230 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,720 probably the mentality for a lot of 1231 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:42,960 people. They'll continue doing what 1232 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,599 they're doing. And I guess if we see it 1233 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,520 enforced and they get stopped, it's 1234 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:50,640 unfortunately we can't sometimes enforce 1235 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,960 it when it prevents some accidents and 1236 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,440 injuries and things, but 1237 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,720 » We can try. I think I appreciate the 1238 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,319 fact that we're looking out for the 1239 00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,280 safety of the residents quite honestly, 1240 00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:03,920 but I understand what you 1241 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,240 » Your point. 1242 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,920 I I'm not pushing back on you. Like like 1243 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,200 I legitimately appreciate the time that 1244 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,560 you guys put in because I know you guys 1245 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,599 went through talked through a lot of 1246 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,480 things 1247 00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,839 » And have [clears throat] a lot more 1248 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,400 experience in that stuff than I do. I 1249 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:19,440 just 1250 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,079 » My estimation like most people probably 1251 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,000 90% of of drivers are better probably 1252 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:26,720 very consistently do the speed limit or 1253 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,200 within 3 miles an hour of that. And then 1254 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:32,560 you get a a small 1255 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,839 fraction who were like your speed demons 1256 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,839 uh who will do 15 over. 1257 00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:40,640 » I only know that from 17 years of 1258 00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:44,480 observing traffic. [laughter] 1259 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:48,160 Um but so yeah, I I just 1260 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:49,680 » But I Yeah, I I'm with you on that. Um 1261 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,200 so I'm not pushing back trying to make 1262 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,240 things complicated, nothing like that. 1263 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,480 So being in several of our counties here 1264 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:59,520 in the last couple weeks throughout 1265 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,599 Iowa, I can tell you I have seen 55 mph 1266 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,440 speed limits in other counties and the 1267 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:05,040 county roads, experienced that 1268 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,400 firsthand. 1269 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,160 And um I am concerned about the the 1270 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,280 problems we have with the intersections. 1271 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:16,240 Kathy, I would have again would have 1272 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,640 brought that issue up if you had um said 1273 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,560 that we want to move these to 60. And it 1274 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,200 isite quite confusing when you look 1275 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,839 going out 291 or some of the state the 1276 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,240 DOT roads yet that are 60 in Blackhawk 1277 00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:30,640 County. So 1278 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:33,200 I had one I went and asked Kathy about I 1279 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,640 was like 60 mph. I thought this was our 1280 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,680 road. I thought this was Blackout County 1281 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,720 and no that was a state state road. So 1282 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:43,119 there is some confusion with that. So, 1283 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,079 um, I want folks to understand that 1284 00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:48,480 those are also a lot straighter and not 1285 00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:51,440 the roads that we have the concerns with 1286 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,359 the intersections on. So, 1287 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,160 » And we have good quality roads for the 1288 00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:57,920 most part, so people are able to speed 1289 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,680 easier than you do on some of those hard 1290 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960 road service ones. As Chris commented, 1291 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,800 like I said, there's a big difference in 1292 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,839 many of the county's roads and ours. So, 1293 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,200 thank you for that. 1294 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:12,480 Any other questions for Kathy? 1295 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,280 Are you ready for a break, Kathy? 1296 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,960 She's ready for [laughter] 1297 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,839 » This resolution. Please answer as your 1298 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,560 name is called. 1299 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,040 » Hall, 1300 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,028 » Yes. 1301 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200 » Brent, 1302 00:48:21,028 --> 00:48:22,240 [cough] 1303 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,119 » Excuse me. Yes. [clears throat] 1304 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,119 » Bart, 1305 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,599 » Yes. 1306 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:26,319 » Yes. 1307 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,440 » Leilen, 1308 00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:30,960 » Yes. Thank you, K, and your team. I know 1309 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,200 there's a lot of time put into it, so 1310 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,960 thank you. Item F is discussion and 1311 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,520 possible board action on Blackot County 1312 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,920 comprehensive project and scope of work. 1313 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,720 And as we all know, last week on we had 1314 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,319 the work session on this very topic and 1315 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:46,319 I thought at least to kind of kick it 1316 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,839 off to the public if we I asked Isaiah 1317 00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:49,359 if he wouldn't mind just sharing some 1318 00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:51,680 comments about [snorts] what our 1319 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:53,760 discussion had been about and and uh 1320 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,160 what he they had proposed at that 1321 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,319 meeting and we can ask questions. 1322 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,480 » Thank you, Linda. Uh, so my name is 1323 00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:02,559 Isaiah Corbin with Iowa Northland 1324 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,119 Regional Council of Governments and like 1325 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:08,400 Linda was saying, we had a pretty 1326 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:12,160 lengthy work session last week and had a 1327 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,119 pretty robust conversation mainly around 1328 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:18,319 uh land use within the county and the 1329 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:21,440 next steps in terms of moving forward 1330 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:24,480 with addressing and visioning for the 1331 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,720 future of land use within the county. Uh 1332 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,680 we talked about the county's zoning 1333 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:34,160 ordinance, um the county's comprehensive 1334 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:36,319 plan and how it relates to um several 1335 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,359 different issues including economic 1336 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:42,000 development, uh largecale energy 1337 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:46,400 projects as well as housing development 1338 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:50,720 within the county. Um after some 1339 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:53,599 conversation on uh all of those issues, 1340 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:57,359 uh we came to the conclusion 1341 00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:01,680 um that currently the county has the 1342 00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:04,400 tools necessary in place um to address 1343 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,559 things like if a data center were to 1344 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,559 come into the county that the county 1345 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:13,760 could use its zoning ordinance to um 1346 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:15,599 help uh give itself some more time to 1347 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,800 develop a specific data center 1348 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:21,520 ordinance. And so we [snorts] kind of 1349 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,680 talked about putting um an update on the 1350 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,920 zoning ordinance on pause for a little 1351 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:30,960 bit. Um but we really honed in on the 1352 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:34,559 county's comprehensive plan um because 1353 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,800 the comprehensive plan really is that 1354 00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:41,280 guiding document 1355 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:45,359 um that provides a long range vision for 1356 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:48,480 um land use. um and growth and goals and 1357 00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:50,720 objectives within the county. Um the 1358 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:56,000 current county comprehensive land use 1359 00:50:50,720 --> 00:51:00,000 plan was passed in 2001, so it is pretty 1360 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:04,000 old. Um, since then, uh, the state of 1361 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:08,079 Iowa, uh, in 2010 actually went through 1362 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:12,079 and updated, uh, Iowa code and really 1363 00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:14,400 asked, um, jurisdictions who were using 1364 00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:17,680 their are updating their comprehensive 1365 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:20,559 plan to focus on a specific set of 1366 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,559 principles and and guidance and really 1367 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:26,000 give a good outline for what a 1368 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:28,559 comprehensive plan should look like. um 1369 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,359 and and [clears throat] uh what that 1370 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:35,680 what that plan um [snorts] should 1371 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:39,440 eventually uh seek to understand. And so 1372 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,520 um what I went I went back and put 1373 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,200 together this document for the 1374 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,160 supervisors 1375 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:49,320 um to give them an idea of what the 1376 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,720 process um for an update for the 1377 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,319 [snorts] comprehensive plan would look 1378 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:58,160 like, what it would address. Um so that 1379 00:51:54,319 --> 00:52:00,319 way you as county supervisors 1380 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,680 um can get a better idea of what that 1381 00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:05,920 process looks like and also add to it or 1382 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,079 subtract to it [clears throat] um to 1383 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:11,920 figure out kind of how to move forward 1384 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:15,040 with uh a comprehensive plan update. And 1385 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:18,319 so what this document does is it 1386 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:21,599 outlines the principles that I I talked 1387 00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:24,880 about and also what a comprehensive plan 1388 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:28,880 does. And really a a good comprehensive 1389 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:31,599 plan asks and answers three questions. 1390 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,119 Uh the first being where and who we are 1391 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:37,200 as a county. Second, uh where do we want 1392 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:40,000 to go and who do we want to be? And then 1393 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:43,200 finally, how do we get there? 1394 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:48,880 Um and it looks at a wide range of 1395 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:51,520 issues like I said um and considers uh 1396 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,040 transportation, natural resources, 1397 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,640 agricultural 1398 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:58,640 uh preservation, energy efficiency, 1399 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,559 urban revitalization, 1400 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,800 uh clean and renewable energy, 1401 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,040 sustainable design, economic 1402 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:09,680 development, community character, and 1403 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:12,720 also housing. And so um it's a wide 1404 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,760 reaching plan. It it's generally a broad 1405 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:18,400 document that's should last um a 1406 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:23,280 community at least 10 to 15 years 1407 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:26,319 depending upon their growth. Um and the 1408 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,480 rest of of my document really um 1409 00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:32,640 outlines the tasks that [clears throat] 1410 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:35,520 are involved in that update. Um so the 1411 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,599 first task is just looking at the 1412 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,079 existing plans and policies and 1413 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:44,000 conditions within the county and 1414 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:45,920 reviewing those. Second is doing uh a 1415 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,280 community assessment. So really looking 1416 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:54,319 at um the quantitative data available to 1417 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:57,200 us um and assessing that on a 1418 00:53:54,319 --> 00:54:01,520 quantitative scale. And then the third 1419 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,800 is really um probably the the key to all 1420 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,800 comprehensive plans [clears throat] and 1421 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,720 that's the public engagement and plan 1422 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:11,599 development. 1423 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:14,880 So within um the public engagement 1424 00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:19,599 um I outlined several different uh 1425 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:22,640 possibilities to um reach and get public 1426 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:26,720 input back uh for the comprehensive 1427 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,487 plan. The first that we talked about um 1428 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:30,640 at the prior meeting was setting 1429 00:54:28,487 --> 00:54:34,240 [snorts] up a task force. Um that's 1430 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:38,480 typically, you know, between 12 to 15 1431 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:41,119 members. Um and it's a cross-section of 1432 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:44,480 the community of Blackhawk County. So, 1433 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:47,280 it includes a wide range of of leaders 1434 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,800 covering different um skills [snorts] 1435 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,723 and perspectives of the county. Um, and 1436 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,880 typically what we do is, 1437 00:54:52,723 --> 00:54:55,200 » [clears throat] 1438 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,200 » Uh, we have three separate meetings that 1439 00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:01,119 typically last around 90 minutes, and 1440 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:03,839 they each cover, um, several different 1441 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:06,960 of those principles that go into your 1442 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:08,880 comprehensive plan. Um the second part 1443 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,800 of the engagement is just a 1444 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:15,760 communitywide survey um that we would uh 1445 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:19,359 develop and administer to gather input 1446 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,640 from um the general public who doesn't 1447 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:24,880 participate in the task force meetings. 1448 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,839 Uh and then once we kind of get through 1449 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,040 that, we uh as part of the plan 1450 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:32,960 development take uh a draft plan and the 1451 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,000 goals of [clears throat] and objectives 1452 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:38,720 to the planning and zoning commission 1453 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:43,040 and sit down over several meetings to 1454 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:45,839 discuss those as well as developing uh 1455 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:49,359 an updated existing and future land use 1456 00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:52,240 map. Um and then the final part of the 1457 00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:55,680 public engagement kind of once we get a 1458 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:57,760 good solid draft in place is um doing 1459 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,920 some public open houses so that way we 1460 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,119 can get feedback from the public and 1461 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:06,480 they can physically interact and see 1462 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:09,359 what the plan is. Um and then the final 1463 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:13,520 task is obviously the implementation of 1464 00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:16,559 the plan. So, um, that's a a general 1465 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,799 overview of kind of what a the scope of 1466 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:22,079 work of a comprehensive plan update 1467 00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:24,799 would look like. Um, 1468 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:29,359 and I'm here to answer any questions or 1469 00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:30,960 get any feedback that you might have. 1470 00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:33,119 » I think you said too it was about maybe 1471 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,640 you said it today even I this like six 1472 00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:36,799 to nine months. I guess I was thinking 1473 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,200 ours would probably be more nine months. 1474 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:41,680 » Yeah. And it and it really kind of 1475 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:46,000 depends. You know, comprehensive plans 1476 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:48,480 can take a a lot of dips and turns and 1477 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,000 really that's by intention because these 1478 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:56,400 are long range visioning plans and um 1479 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:58,640 they're meant to uh supersede [snorts] 1480 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,880 uh elected officials. I mean they are 1481 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:04,880 long range and they are a general vision 1482 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,200 of the county. So, um, obviously the the 1483 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,799 planning and zoning, they will approve 1484 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:12,240 the plan and it will go to the 1485 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:15,280 supervisors for approval ultimately. Um, 1486 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:17,839 so there's a lot of opinions um that we 1487 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:21,920 take into account when developing these 1488 00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:24,720 plans. Um, and so sometimes it takes 1489 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,160 turns. Sometimes we go one way and we 1490 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,720 talk about it and they're like, "Ah, we 1491 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:32,160 should go the other way." So it it takes 1492 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,920 time like all good plans. Um, but really 1493 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,319 what it's meant to do is set that 1494 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,880 foundation for the future as you're 1495 00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:42,369 updating your zoning ordinances, as 1496 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:45,280 you're thinking about um different uh 1497 00:57:42,369 --> 00:57:47,839 [snorts] regulations and uh also 1498 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,839 strategic goals and objectives for the 1499 00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:50,839 county. 1500 00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:57,119 Can you maybe just talk a little bit 1501 00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,000 about task force communitywide surveys 1502 00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:01,440 that community input 1503 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,520 and then it going to planning and 1504 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,960 zoning? Have you experienced where 1505 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:12,720 that vision shifts once it gets to 1506 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,559 planning and zoning? And is it are we 1507 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,839 required by statute for it to go through 1508 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,839 planning and zoning once it goes through 1509 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:20,880 the community engagement piece or can we 1510 00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:22,640 adopt it and have PNZ 1511 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,255 work more to implement? 1512 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,480 » Yeah. So P&Z is required to send 1513 00:58:26,255 --> 00:58:28,960 » [snorts] 1514 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,880 » Uh the plan to the supervisors. So a 1515 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,150 comprehensive plan does have to go 1516 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,839 through your planning and zoning 1517 00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:36,000 [clears throat] commission. And 1518 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:39,280 certainly 1519 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:44,720 there are disagreements about [snorts] 1520 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:46,559 uh certain policies and views. Um and 1521 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,119 the job of someone writing the 1522 00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:54,319 comprehensive plan is to help weave 1523 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:57,839 those and find a solid ground to go on. 1524 00:58:54,319 --> 00:59:00,000 Um, but there's 1525 00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:03,040 and sometimes people just have to choose 1526 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,920 to agree to disagree at at moments 1527 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,359 because Yeah. I mean, we and that's the 1528 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,160 hard thing about writing this 1529 00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:12,799 comprehensive plan. And 1530 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,640 when I typically write it, I try to find 1531 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:18,000 that middle ground and that middle 1532 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:22,160 piece. And sometimes people don't like 1533 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:25,839 it. And I try not to please everyone 1534 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,319 because I end up pleasing no one um at 1535 00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:30,720 the same time. But it it is a it's a 1536 00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:34,160 fine little dance that you have to do. 1537 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,520 And and in general, a comprehensive plan 1538 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,839 is is fairly broad, too. So that makes 1539 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,880 it a little bit easier when there are 1540 00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:43,680 those [snorts] 1541 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:47,920 nuanced dis disagreements about certain 1542 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:51,520 issues is we try to look at it at a a 1543 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:53,839 10,000 ft level rather than kind of deep 1544 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,680 into the weeds. Um because obviously 1545 00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:57,599 those can be adjusted a little bit 1546 00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,000 depending on 1547 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:02,960 who's making the decision. Does the 1548 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,960 length of the last time since 1549 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:09,680 we haven't done an overhaul of this or 1550 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,520 » Too much of a dive into this in 1551 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,559 » Quite a while? 25 years. 1552 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,599 » 26 years. Yep. 1553 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,400 » 26 1554 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,240 » 2001. 1555 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,920 » Does that 1556 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:22,920 do you anticipate that adding to the 1557 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,920 complexity if there is 1558 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,839 judging from the conversation that we 1559 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,280 had last week? I thought there were some 1560 01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:30,559 really innovative things that we talked 1561 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,720 about. But do you see that being as a 1562 01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:34,799 real roadblock? 1563 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,440 » We would be starting from square one. 1564 01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:38,079 » Okay. 1565 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,240 » Yeah. So, it would definitely take a 1566 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:44,240 little bit. You know, some counties 1567 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:46,640 they've they've spent 5 years and went 1568 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:49,680 and updated it and they just kind of do 1569 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,079 it progressively. Others just kind of 1570 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,440 let it sit there and 1571 01:00:52,079 --> 01:01:00,000 collects dust and becomes a little old. 1572 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,559 Um but yeah it I mean and and obviously 1573 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,640 since 2001 the world has changed 1574 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,400 dramatically and the world is changing 1575 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,920 dramatically. So it it will take um some 1576 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,640 time to kind of work through these 1577 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,280 issues and and that's where you you you 1578 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,559 really have to focus on getting um good 1579 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:20,960 solid feedback from the community um as 1580 01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:22,720 guiding principles. 1581 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,200 Well, I think when we talked um the 1582 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,520 other day too, it was a lot of our own 1583 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,359 infrastructure we had to consider for 1584 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,880 while we were looking for future growth 1585 01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:33,200 potential and thinking what we could do 1586 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,119 for Blackout County. we had to see and 1587 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,079 examine and that's I guess where our PNZ 1588 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,480 staff 1589 01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:40,720 » Would be helpful for us and maybe others 1590 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,079 too but to identifying where that 1591 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,520 potential 1592 01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:45,359 » Is [snorts] for us not just to go in 1593 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,280 because we would be changing from 1594 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:49,200 preservation of egg land for the most 1595 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,760 part to looking at economic [snorts] 1596 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,520 development potential. So yeah, I'd 1597 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,160 expect even some push back not just from 1598 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,000 P&Z, but from the rural from the people 1599 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,359 that we need we'd hear from the people 1600 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880 that we're going to be 1601 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:03,062 » Asking to [clears throat] 1602 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,200 » Absolutely. Yeah. And it's such a 1603 01:02:03,062 --> 01:02:07,839 [cough] it's such a broad document and 1604 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,839 we, you know, we we look at a [snorts] 1605 01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:12,559 wide range of things. So, it's not just 1606 01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:16,079 egg land, it's also infrastructure, 1607 01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:19,119 where things are located, roads, where 1608 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:20,720 does PNZ see potential future growth 1609 01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:24,799 that they would like to see, where is 1610 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:30,079 the county um so it it can be a little 1611 01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:32,160 bit of a complex conversation at times. 1612 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:33,599 » Isaiah, last week, u you were talking 1613 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,240 about you're just finishing up one with 1614 01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:37,920 another county. Would this be the bigger 1615 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,599 county if any of them you've worked on? 1616 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,880 And how many more have you worked on 1617 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:43,839 doing something like this? 1618 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:47,359 » Yep. So, uh, Breamer County just wrapped 1619 01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:49,760 up theirs a few months ago. Um, we did 1620 01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:53,599 Buchanan counties, I think, a year or 1621 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:56,799 two prior to that. Um, and so those were 1622 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:59,040 the two most recent ones. Obviously, in 1623 01:02:56,799 --> 01:03:02,319 our region, Blackhawk County is the 1624 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:04,720 biggest county. Um, so that just adds a 1625 01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:08,160 little bit of a complexity, especially 1626 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,440 with the metro. um as well. 1627 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,599 » So, this is something you could get 1628 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,799 started on soon then. 1629 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:15,039 » Yeah. Yep. 1630 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:17,680 » How soon or do we have a dollar figure? 1631 01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:20,240 Anything that worked up yet? 1632 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,200 » So, I typically try it's a long 1633 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,200 conversation, but I typically not I 1634 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,440 don't provide a dollar figure until the 1635 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,039 supervisors are ready to move forward 1636 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,520 with the project. That's why I put 1637 01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:33,920 together the scope of work so that way I 1638 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,799 could go back and kind of estimate how 1639 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:39,839 many hours each task took and then 1640 01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:41,520 provide you a solid proposal. Um so that 1641 01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:43,839 way the county can kind of make a 1642 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,680 decision. Um, but I don't like to 1643 01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:48,880 generally provide the dollar figure 1644 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,799 right up front because I have had um 1645 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,449 communities that have asked that and 1646 01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:53,520 then they go out for 1647 01:03:52,449 --> 01:03:55,680 [cough and clears throat] 1648 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,480 uh RFP 1649 01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:00,980 uh [snorts] and then my 1650 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:04,240 » Dollar figures public and it it defeats 1651 01:04:00,980 --> 01:04:06,799 [laughter] the purpose of that 1652 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,520 right wrong or indifferent. Um, so 1653 01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:12,000 that's the reason why I kind of take 1654 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,680 this process. Um, 1655 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,520 » No, that's all right. Yeah, you don't 1656 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,680 have to the position. I think that's why 1657 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,240 it's on for possible board action is if 1658 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,000 you wanted to 1659 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,400 » Author. Yeah. And I and I want to make 1660 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,319 sure that the scope of work reflects 1661 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,440 what you want to see because there are 1662 01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:30,160 certainly other outreach methods and 1663 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,480 innovative ways that you can um 1664 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:35,119 certainly add to the scope of work. if 1665 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:38,559 you say, you know, we really want to 1666 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:41,359 focus on public outreach to X or we we 1667 01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:44,160 think this isn't not enough or too much, 1668 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:46,000 um, you can kind of certainly adjust 1669 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,960 that scope of work to [snorts] reflect 1670 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,039 that. 1671 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,480 » Is that something that's been added in 1672 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,000 some of the others? Because, yeah, I can 1673 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,160 see where it would be a cookie cutter 1674 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,760 kind of a plan [snorts] for each county 1675 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,440 even though you'd be very different in 1676 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,319 your infrastructure. But 1677 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,720 » Yeah. Yep. In some counties, you know, 1678 01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:04,559 depending on how old the plan is, you 1679 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,880 know, they'll say, "Oh, we don't need to 1680 01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:10,160 really update the maps or we don't need 1681 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,400 to do any survey work. We can kind of or 1682 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,160 we just want to update this piece." So, 1683 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,319 we we don't necessarily need a task 1684 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,640 force with three meetings and we can 1685 01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:21,520 kind of we just want to hone in on here 1686 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,840 and just focus on one piece rather than 1687 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,440 the entirety of the plan. 1688 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,960 [clears throat] 1689 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,400 And they probably do that somewhat, 1690 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,920 maybe two after the cost has been 1691 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,559 provided and they look at ways they can 1692 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:33,119 massage their particular one for Yep. 1693 01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:35,039 » Maybe services. So you'd have that 1694 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:36,880 defined kind of as your scope and 1695 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:39,760 everything in there of the different 1696 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:42,799 pieces of it and then a total cost. 1697 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,799 » Yep. So if you're okay with the scope of 1698 01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:46,880 work and the county is ready to move 1699 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:49,680 forward, I could put together an entire 1700 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,520 proposal. obviously break down the cost 1701 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,880 of what that proposal would look like 1702 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:57,359 and and certainly provide it for for the 1703 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,359 supervisors to approve and move forward 1704 01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:01,520 with. 1705 01:05:59,359 --> 01:06:03,920 I do know attending the township 1706 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:07,039 meetings, this has been brought up a 1707 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,640 couple different times. I know some 1708 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:10,480 folks in the townships might be 1709 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,559 interested in participating in this as 1710 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:15,760 well with some of their questions I've 1711 01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:18,000 had to deal with from them. So, um, and 1712 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:20,559 I know we have 1713 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,079 one in particular, two maybe that are in 1714 01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:24,559 township 1715 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:26,000 trustees or clerks that are also on P&Z 1716 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:28,319 or work with P&Z. 1717 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,640 » Yep. And typically when you look at the 1718 01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:32,160 task force, I usually for the task 1719 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,039 force, I usually like to have a 1720 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,839 supervisor on the task force, one of 1721 01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:39,839 you. Um because then you can kind of see 1722 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:41,280 what the process and conversation looks 1723 01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:42,640 like. So that way when you get to the 1724 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,119 end of the plan, you're like, "Well, 1725 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,119 what's this?" I'm like, well, you heard 1726 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:49,520 the people like this is what we talked 1727 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:52,079 about. And the same way with P&Z, I like 1728 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:54,160 to have one member on P&Z. So that way 1729 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:56,559 there's kind of a continuation. And it's 1730 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,960 nice when you kind of go from group to 1731 01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:01,280 group to have someone that's been part 1732 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,920 of the conversation because, you know, 1733 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:07,280 some people can at times look at and be 1734 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,200 like, well, why did you write this? and 1735 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,760 other people that are part of the 1736 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,599 conversation can explain that rather 1737 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,440 than thinking it's just me writing it 1738 01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:20,240 cuz typically 1739 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:21,680 I just listen and I write. So, 1740 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,119 » Okay, 1741 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,559 » This is Chris. Um, 1742 01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:28,960 » I was just hoping we could have maybe 1743 01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:31,359 one more week um to digest and maybe 1744 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,599 give some feedback on the scope of work 1745 01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:35,440 uh and [clears throat] give a kind of 1746 01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:36,799 thumbs up. I mean, I think it's probably 1747 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,880 mostly there, but I just need a little 1748 01:07:36,799 --> 01:07:43,599 bit more time to dive deeper into it. 1749 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,960 » I would I would agree. I really do. The 1750 01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:46,640 the part that I'm most passionate about 1751 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,559 is the community engagement piece. And 1752 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,319 so, if if there are some other models 1753 01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:52,559 that you've used if you could share some 1754 01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:54,079 of those just as so that we don't say, 1755 01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:56,480 "Yes, let's go with this." And maybe 1756 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:57,839 there is a different method um that you 1757 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,160 that you're that you're comfortable with 1758 01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:02,000 that you've that you've used in the past 1759 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,440 that might benefit us even a little bit 1760 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,839 more. But I I mean I like what I'm 1761 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,280 seeing, but I agree with Chris to have a 1762 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:10,400 a bit of time to marinate. 1763 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,319 » So task force surveys and open houses 1764 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,160 typically would be what we'd utilize our 1765 01:08:12,319 --> 01:08:15,520 PNZ meetings. That's that's a little 1766 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,960 different group, I think. 1767 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,600 » But I was going to say something for the 1768 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,239 public. 1769 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,640 » Yep. 1770 01:08:18,239 --> 01:08:22,400 » Do we could do open houses I guess 1771 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,839 earlier in the process too? I'm just 1772 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,040 thinking making people feel comfortable 1773 01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:27,120 about input or No. 1774 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:30,080 » Yeah. Yeah. I kind of and [laughter] I 1775 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,799 went back and forth on the open houses. 1776 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,400 I think um 1777 01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:36,239 in terms of [snorts] like how I 1778 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,839 developed the plan, I think you have the 1779 01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:43,359 open houses either before planning and 1780 01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:45,920 zoning or after. I could be swayed 1781 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:47,759 either one. Um cuz I think there's some 1782 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,279 unique things that you can do, 1783 01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:51,199 especially with comprehensive planning 1784 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:54,239 in these public houses. Like you can put 1785 01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:57,279 a big map of the county up on the board 1786 01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:59,759 and and you know do some pin exercises. 1787 01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:02,000 people can identify different areas or 1788 01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:04,159 issues that they see and sometimes those 1789 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,040 are really really good feedback to have 1790 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:10,480 before you kind of write the plan. So 1791 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:12,560 you could do that, you know, the timing 1792 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:15,600 I think it depends on how you want to do 1793 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:19,600 it. Um or you could do them before and 1794 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,199 after too. Um 1795 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,799 » Would would it help like giving you 1796 01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:25,199 another week as well to kind of look at 1797 01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:26,719 these and maybe throw some ideas to us I 1798 01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:28,400 guess that you've done before and maybe 1799 01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:30,159 we haven't considered this 1800 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,239 » Since it's none of us were involved in 1801 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:35,120 that first one [laughter] 1802 01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,480 » In 2001. So yeah just some of the 1803 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,199 different ways of doing it. So 1804 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,359 » Yep I would 1805 01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:41,359 » We were all very excited last week. I 1806 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:43,359 would really like to see what called the 1807 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:46,159 communitywide survey that we get 1808 01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:49,199 participation from all 17 townships as 1809 01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:52,703 well. We know that we're reaching all 1810 01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:52,719 parts of our rural area with this. 1811 01:09:52,703 --> 01:09:55,600 [clears throat] 1812 01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:58,320 » Yep. And so, um, the survey tools that 1813 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,239 we have actually we can just have zip 1814 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,320 code and we can kind of break it down so 1815 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:04,159 that way we can see where the surveys 1816 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,280 are coming from. [snorts] Um, and 1817 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:10,800 certainly if there's some zip codes and 1818 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:12,640 areas that aren't included, you know, we 1819 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,800 can look at that as we're getting the 1820 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,040 results in and and come up with a plan 1821 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,880 to really kind of make sure that we're 1822 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,640 pushing it in those other areas that 1823 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,719 aren't [clears throat] participating. 1824 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,120 » And it primarily would be with rural 1825 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:26,080 areas, correct? So, we should hit all 1826 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,600 those pretty hard. 1827 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,000 » Yeah. 1828 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,640 » Yep. 1829 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,880 » How's the survey getting disseminated? 1830 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,280 Um, 1831 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:38,320 social media, um, [clears throat] is the 1832 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,880 big one. Um, we'd probably have all the 1833 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:43,280 the county Facebook pages share it as 1834 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,760 well as the supervisors share it because 1835 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,520 obviously you have a a pretty big reach. 1836 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,600 We could put it in the newspaper. The 1837 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,679 newspaper is always hit or miss, but 1838 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:55,040 people still read the newspaper. We can 1839 01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:57,679 certainly um you know the other thing we 1840 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,920 can get on KWWL 1841 01:10:57,679 --> 01:11:02,320 um and talk about the comprehensive plan 1842 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,360 update and ask people to reach it out. I 1843 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:07,374 think that would be a really good 1844 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,880 method. They have a nice little short um 1845 01:11:07,374 --> 01:11:12,719 [clears throat] segment that they do as 1846 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:16,544 well. Um but I'm I'm always open for 1847 01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:16,800 suggestions on other other ways as well. 1848 01:11:16,544 --> 01:11:20,474 » [clears throat] 1849 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,040 » I'd like I mean I think this is a a big 1850 01:11:20,474 --> 01:11:21,760 [cough] 1851 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:27,120 big [clears throat] step with 1852 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:29,679 longlasting um implications. So um and I 1853 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,600 I'd like to see us maybe consider even a 1854 01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:34,320 a countywide 1855 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,719 uh mailing to each parcel with a QR code 1856 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,000 to the survey or something like that. I 1857 01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:40,400 know that there's expense with that, but 1858 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:43,400 this is something with a longlasting 1859 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,400 impact. 1860 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,360 Yeah, I was just going to say uh all the 1861 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,239 people I know that live out in the 1862 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:52,400 county have flip phones, so that might 1863 01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:55,679 be a problem on the social media thing. 1864 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,960 So, I think the news any any 1865 01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:58,800 » I don't know. I'll talk with them and 1866 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,080 see how they get their how they stay up 1867 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,440 to date with some of their stuff, but 1868 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,520 I'm not kidding you. 1869 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:04,560 » Phones is a thing out there. 1870 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,320 » I get it. 1871 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,159 » They do get mail. I mean, it might be 1872 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,599 mailing. Actually, I do know a guy that 1873 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:11,040 has a smartphone that lives out 1874 01:12:09,599 --> 01:12:14,040 [laughter] there, but mostly flip 1875 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,040 phones. 1876 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,679 » Yeah. To be discussed, I guess, on that. 1877 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,520 » And cost will come into play. 1878 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,719 » Well, yeah, cost. I mean, look, we're 1879 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,440 certainly going to be in the five 1880 01:12:22,719 --> 01:12:27,040 figures and something. That's a pretty 1881 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:31,760 broad that doesn't narrow you down too 1882 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:33,199 much there, but uh I think having the 1883 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,520 I'm even open to the idea of maybe 1884 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:37,280 multiple open houses, one at the very 1885 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,120 beginning of this. So we can talk about 1886 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,520 why this is important, why it matters. 1887 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,719 Yep. 1888 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:45,840 » Um help justify the expense. 1889 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:47,920 » Um and then another and to your point 1890 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,360 that also allows for some input at the 1891 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,199 very early phases where we might catch a 1892 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,040 line a direction or two that we wouldn't 1893 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:58,239 have necessarily thought about. I mean, 1894 01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,560 honestly, even Thursday's meeting, I 1895 01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,440 think it was Thursday, um, 1896 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,719 » Tuesday, 1897 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:06,480 » Tuesday, whatever. Uh, 1898 01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:08,239 » You know, 1899 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:10,480 Justin brought up some stuff that I 1900 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:12,880 hadn't gone into that meeting thinking 1901 01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:14,320 about being involved in regards to 1902 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:17,280 housing, right? Like 1903 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:19,360 » All of that, the conversations do matter 1904 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,280 and so, um, I think some opportunities 1905 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,360 at the front end as well as the back end 1906 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:25,360 would would be beneficial. 1907 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,239 » Yeah. comprehensive plans, you know, 1908 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:32,320 they're they're fun to write because you 1909 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:35,360 dive into a swath of issues and you get 1910 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:37,679 a swath of opinions back as well. Um, 1911 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:40,159 and so and it's thinking about the 1912 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:42,000 vision and so they're often exciting 1913 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,679 plans to write because people are 1914 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,159 excited and passionate about their 1915 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:48,000 communities and they want to see their 1916 01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:50,239 community improve. And so that's the 1917 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,280 best part about it is 1918 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:55,679 » You you get a lot of ideas um and a lot 1919 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,040 of new ideas as well. So 1920 01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:58,880 » We did something like that with our 1921 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,360 strategic planning and that community 1922 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,719 piece was important to bring people in. 1923 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,440 So we could [snorts] 1924 01:14:02,719 --> 01:14:06,080 » So another week or two or what we next 1925 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,760 week or 1926 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,776 » Yeah. One thought I'm just having now 1927 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:12,159 with with two uh candidates unless 1928 01:14:10,776 --> 01:14:14,239 [snorts] there's one hidden behind the 1929 01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:16,880 door in the room. [laughter] 1930 01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:18,480 Uh 1931 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,800 like I I would love to push this forward 1932 01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:26,239 and start start going now uh 1933 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:29,760 I'm just curious what what uh Senator 1934 01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:31,840 Dler and Casey also might feel um going 1935 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,400 forward assuming that they step into so 1936 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,760 that way we don't we the our current 1937 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,320 board doesn't start moving with 1938 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,760 something and then for some reason a 1939 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,320 number of things happen and then maybe 1940 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,920 they don't have the same appetite maybe 1941 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,280 more information comes in later that 1942 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,800 makes uh their opinion in operation 1943 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,400 change. 1944 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,320 » Well, I think and and that you bring up 1945 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,520 a good point as I I do think that too. 1946 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,880 But I think we can put some of these 1947 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,040 things in place to get started with it 1948 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,719 and get it going, I guess, early on and 1949 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,239 and then this we're just a couple weeks 1950 01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:02,080 away from the election and then those 1951 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:03,760 people can be invited as well 1952 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,360 » To it because I think those those 1953 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,880 opinions and thoughts will be important 1954 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,719 too. But 1955 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,719 » Yep, 1956 01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:14,239 I figured that conversation was going to 1957 01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:15,840 come up um 1958 01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:19,440 three weeks. Yeah, I did talk to Brian 1959 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:21,920 about that and you know 1960 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:23,760 » I could be and I could see the decision 1961 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:27,120 either way, you know, waiting till 1962 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,960 January to kind of get started or you 1963 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,880 know before you know [snorts] 1964 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:37,920 comprehensive plans um we try to write 1965 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:41,040 them um not for uh you know we have five 1966 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:44,000 different opinions um and we we try to 1967 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:47,280 keep them generally broad um but we try 1968 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:50,159 to reflect the public. Um, and really 1969 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:52,800 kind of what I tell elected officials is 1970 01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:54,320 like, uh, this isn't this is your 1971 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,280 comprehensive plan, but it's also the 1972 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,840 counties and it's it's meant to be, uh, 1973 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:03,199 a cross-section of the general public. 1974 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:05,520 So, I could I could see either waiting 1975 01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:07,679 till after the election to kind of make 1976 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,640 those decisions, and I'm completely fine 1977 01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:14,400 with that and would understand that. Um, 1978 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:16,640 and yeah, I'm Mr. Doler, if you want to 1979 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,440 throw in your opinion. 1980 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:22,880 » Yeah, go ahead. 1981 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:24,640 » Uh, Senator Bill Dler, 2837 Cedar Ter 1982 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:28,159 Blue. [clears throat] Uh, seems how I 1983 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:31,040 kind of somewhat got invited. Um, I I 1984 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:33,440 agree with uh Supervisor 1985 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:36,080 uh Leland that I I don't see a problem 1986 01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:38,159 with you guys starting working through 1987 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:41,360 this cuz we'll have plenty opportunity 1988 01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:43,920 for input and uh after the election 1989 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:46,480 whoever gets elected. Uh that'd be a 1990 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,120 good time. I think we need to have a lot 1991 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:52,000 of transition cuz obviously there's 1992 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:56,480 going to be some real change u with the 1993 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:59,760 board. So uh you know at least losing 1994 01:16:56,480 --> 01:17:03,440 couple of you three of you and uh so I 1995 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:05,679 think that's important that this being a 1996 01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:08,640 board of supervisor 1997 01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:13,120 uh is more complicated than I think most 1998 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:15,040 people realize including myself. So uh 1999 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:18,080 there are so many different things that 2000 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:21,040 you have to work with and and spend time 2001 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:23,040 with. So slowing down the process I 2002 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,040 don't think would be a good thing and 2003 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,520 we'll have plenty of time to work and be 2004 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:30,159 involved with it uh when the time comes 2005 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:32,239 after the election whoever the new 2006 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:34,239 supervisors are. Thank you. 2007 01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:35,679 » Thank you. I was going to say Isaiah 2008 01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,920 probably takes some time as well. Like I 2009 01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:40,719 said even if we signed a document today 2010 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,320 you liked your proposal and we said 2011 01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:44,159 let's go with it or let we're ready to 2012 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,920 go with it. I think there'd still be a 2013 01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:48,880 lot of work you have to do to even bring 2014 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:51,760 back to us to next steps and what 2015 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,400 » Yeah certainly 2016 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:56,400 you know I'm an Ian at heart and I hate 2017 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,360 doing and setting [snorts] up meetings 2018 01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,840 with the task force in December and 2019 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,480 January because 2020 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,000 » Exactly 2021 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:09,120 » There's always the potential to get 2022 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,880 cancelled. So, um, but yeah, I it will 2023 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,760 take some time for us to kind of get our 2024 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:16,880 our feet underneath us, um, and set up 2025 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:19,280 the logistics and, um, you know, we'll 2026 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,440 we'll also get feedback from the 2027 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,440 supervisors on who they believe should 2028 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:27,360 be part of the task force. And I think 2029 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:29,920 that's, you know, a very important step 2030 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,239 and part of the process because you want 2031 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,089 people a cross-section of the community 2032 01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:35,199 and community leaders. And 2033 01:18:34,089 --> 01:18:36,880 [clears throat] obviously there's a lot 2034 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:39,840 of individuals [snorts] in Blackhawk 2035 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:42,480 County that can provide great input. Um, 2036 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,880 but sometimes, you know, you you got to 2037 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:47,360 get a good task force because that's 2038 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,920 where you get the brunt of your or of my 2039 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,280 fe the feedback for the plan. And so you 2040 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,679 want to make sure that you do that 2041 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:56,159 right. And that's a big commitment. It's 2042 01:18:53,679 --> 01:18:59,840 it's three meetings, 90 minutes each. 2043 01:18:56,159 --> 01:19:01,600 Um, and so that's an important part that 2044 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,440 you you got to take time to think about 2045 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,280 as well. 2046 01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:07,280 » But I think it's like important like 2047 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,719 we'd have input on some of the 2048 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,719 individuals and groups and things that 2049 01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:12,560 we'd see. The others will be coming in 2050 01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:14,960 obviously to add or you know if they 2051 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,880 disagreed or something to have more time 2052 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,719 to discuss that too. But otherwise, 2053 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,760 yeah, I just think the combination of it 2054 01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:23,360 all will be good. Yep. 2055 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,199 work together. Thank you. Well, it 2056 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,360 sounds like at least another week or 2057 01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:28,960 just whenever I mean if a week or two I 2058 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,400 mean it's on us for to form our 2059 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,400 questions and you if you would provide 2060 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,840 some additional information to this if 2061 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,239 you think there are some things that 2062 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,199 maybe 2063 01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:37,440 » I [clears throat] can certainly give you 2064 01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:40,159 some um different examples that I've 2065 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:43,040 seen in other plans um as well for 2066 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:45,600 feedback and you can you know pick and 2067 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:48,320 choose and and decide. I certainly like 2068 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,440 Tavis's idea of doing a public hall pre 2069 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,920 and post. I think that's [clears throat] 2070 01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,600 a great idea. Um, but there are some 2071 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,080 other creative ways that we can 2072 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,600 definitely look at. 2073 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,120 » Yeah, I like that too because I just 2074 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,880 thought one open house at the end is 2075 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,719 like great. But that's the kind of the 2076 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,480 roll out to me and we know we've all 2077 01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:07,280 been involved with those when we got the 2078 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:08,960 roll out of the J turn 2079 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,400 » On one of the roads. It was a little I 2080 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,000 mean they said they'd done a lot of work 2081 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,000 beforehand, but it was just like the 2082 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,560 roll out then was too late to do 2083 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,960 anything about it, whatever. So, thank 2084 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,159 you. 2085 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,159 » Thanks. Thanks very much. 2086 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,280 All right, reports or information from 2087 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,960 the board. 2088 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:30,320 I'll remind everyone we have a board 2089 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:33,840 session at 1:00 today on the bond sale 2090 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:37,840 and work session on 2091 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:40,480 Thursday at 8:00 a.m. at VA 2092 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,840 » On the reloc or remodeling. I had to 2093 01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,440 double check. Somebody thought it was 2094 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,745 Wednesday told [clears throat] me 2095 01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:46,320 earlier, but it's Thursday. 2096 01:20:45,745 --> 01:20:47,360 [snorts and laughter] 2097 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:52,280 wouldn't want to be somewhere at 8 2098 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:52,280 o'clock in the morning on the wrong day. 2099 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,199 » Nothing. 2100 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,920 » So, no. Okay. 2101 01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:58,080 » All right. 2102 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,440 » Anything else? Okay. And I was going to 2103 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,640 say just a question I was going to throw 2104 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,159 out there and I know Michelle's back 2105 01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,280 with the working on the bonds, but it 2106 01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:04,719 was like the community funding 2107 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,080 applications are in. 2108 01:21:04,719 --> 01:21:08,159 » Lori's looked through them. I'm not sure 2109 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,239 Michelle has signed off yet, but I was 2110 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:11,679 going to say if we want to do those this 2111 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,760 year. I I thought it was a great 2112 01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:15,360 assignment for the new supervisors 2113 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,040 probably to do that project, but I 2114 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,400 thought probably unfair 2115 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,679 » In the middle of 2116 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,520 » Budget. I know. Yeah. 2117 01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:22,960 » I know it's late. And so there's another 2118 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,320 thing I thought maybe if we could try to 2119 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,239 get that done, but I know it'll take 2120 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,600 some time. And so I just thought too I 2121 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:30,880 wanted to hear what your thoughts were. 2122 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:35,199 I think a smaller window for us to 2123 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:37,760 evaluate them just because if you give 2124 01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:39,679 me 30, I'll take 31. It's kind of like 2125 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,960 that speed limit conversation, right? 2126 01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:44,000 » Uh 2127 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:46,800 » Um if if we give we give ourselves two 2128 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:49,120 weeks to sit down, review them. If we 2129 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,960 need to extend another couple of days 2130 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,679 for all five of us to get our 2131 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,560 » Two weeks 2132 01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:53,679 » Scores in. Is that 2133 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,199 » I remember it took a little longer than 2134 01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:56,960 two weeks before, but yeah, we can make 2135 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:58,560 that a goal. Well, I was going to say 2136 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,840 it'd be nice if we had it done by the 2137 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,040 1st of December. 2138 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,360 » Yeah. 2139 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,800 » Well, yeah. So, yeah, take a look. I 2140 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,400 just wanted to bring it up as a point of 2141 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,280 discussion so we knew it wasn't hanging 2142 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,199 out there to get it done. 2143 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,520 » I think done and acted on so that folks 2144 01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:10,400 know. 2145 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:10,960 » That's okay. Yeah. 2146 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:11,760 » Yeah. 2147 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,760 » Where we're going. 2148 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,080 » How many applications in total were 2149 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,120 there? 2150 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,840 » Said 24. 2151 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,199 » Yeah. Okay. 2152 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,120 » So, if I'm offline, 2153 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:21,760 » Are the Maybe I missed something, but 2154 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:24,159 are they ready for us to start scoring? 2155 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,880 Well, I said um Lori had kind of said 2156 01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:26,320 she had looked [clears throat] through 2157 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,760 those and made the list and stuff for 2158 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,120 us. Michelle said she just wanted to 2159 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,840 look at it one more time kind of make 2160 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,360 sure [cough] 2161 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,440 everything is good, but otherwise they 2162 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,040 are will be Chris. So, thank you. 2163 01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:38,560 » Yeah. No, I think I think I agree with 2164 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:40,400 Tavis on the two week thing. Um 2165 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:43,120 I think that and it hopefully it would 2166 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,120 be a faster process since we've now done 2167 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,480 this once already. So, we're maybe a 2168 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,600 little more familiar with 2169 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:50,719 » The matrix. But, um yeah, but it was I 2170 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,719 think it's something we should get done. 2171 01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:54,560 It was in a budget set by this board. 2172 01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:56,800 So, I think we should finish that. 2173 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,159 » Yeah, I think you were the first one 2174 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,679 done last time. So, I don't know if 2175 01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:01,920 we'll take your comments too seriously 2176 01:22:59,679 --> 01:23:04,719 on two. [laughter] 2177 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,480 » It's important stuff. These uh this this 2178 01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:07,920 money has a lot of impact. So, I want to 2179 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:09,600 get it out the door. 2180 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:13,840 » Yeah. To get it out. Yeah. Thanks, 2181 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:15,199 Chris. Okay. Any motion for adjournment? 2182 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,920 Some move. Second. 2183 01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:21,400 » All in favor say I. I. I. 2184 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,400 » Meetings adjourned.