1 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:15,340 Second. 2 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:15,980 Second. 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Second. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,920 Mr. Narsdale. 5 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:21,020 Yes. 6 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:21,680 Yes. 7 00:00:21,980 --> 00:00:22,280 Yes. 8 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:25,540 Anybody want to start that? 9 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:40,190 At this time, we would like to offer the public a chance to comment on any matters not for the will and the seed. 10 00:00:44,730 --> 00:00:51,390 If not, we're going to move into our very first application this evening, and that's going to be 1126 stronghold development. 11 00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:54,910 If you would search for a joint attempt to... 12 00:00:56,010 --> 00:00:59,570 I was at Mr. Smith at that copy, and he said, then he's going to do that somehow, right? 13 00:00:59,710 --> 00:01:00,590 That'd be great, thank you. 14 00:01:01,210 --> 00:01:02,130 What was I going to try to do? 15 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:03,710 If you had to do something, I'm going to throw it at you. 16 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:04,490 Appreciate it. 17 00:01:04,570 --> 00:01:04,930 Yeah, of course. 18 00:01:06,790 --> 00:01:07,310 Thank you. 19 00:01:07,650 --> 00:01:07,870 Good. 20 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:09,210 Thank you. 21 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:10,050 Thank you. 22 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:11,590 Thank you. 23 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:23,380 If 24 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:34,110 you would please sit in front of the mites of the phone so we can hear each other. 25 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:34,610 Thank you. 26 00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:35,950 Yes, thank you. 27 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:37,290 My name is Garenit. 28 00:01:37,390 --> 00:01:38,750 I will open the partners in our show. 29 00:01:38,930 --> 00:01:39,130 I hope so. 30 00:01:39,430 --> 00:01:39,850 Thank you. 31 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:40,050 Thank you. 32 00:01:40,050 --> 00:01:40,130 Thank you. 33 00:01:40,470 --> 00:01:40,790 Thank you. 34 00:01:41,070 --> 00:01:41,690 Thank you. 35 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:43,130 Thank you. 36 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:43,830 Thank you. 37 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:44,210 Thank you. 38 00:01:45,770 --> 00:01:46,530 Thank you. 39 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:50,250 Thank you. 40 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:51,710 Little birds and slight ones. 41 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:55,570 If you could take a screw, you're a bozol in your own words, 42 00:01:55,570 --> 00:01:56,490 we'd appreciate that. 43 00:01:57,110 --> 00:01:59,890 Okay, so pretty much, you found a property. 44 00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:01,770 My company's actually a college instruction. 45 00:02:02,050 --> 00:02:03,230 If I'm not part of that, I've been actually 46 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:03,770 doing that a lot. 47 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:06,150 I'm just having an empty street for the living sale. 48 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:08,470 I do want to look at Dan and say so. 49 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:10,770 So I'm asking me to offer a birthday. 50 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:12,690 We're looking to keep the integrity of the house 51 00:02:12,690 --> 00:02:13,590 and we're looking to the street. 52 00:02:13,690 --> 00:02:15,690 I'll see what the new exterior is. 53 00:02:15,730 --> 00:02:17,090 It's like a product, a platform. 54 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:19,270 Looking to maintain the same spacing. 55 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:22,550 You don't have five inches in similar window trim. 56 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:26,070 We're going to replace the new windows with the same burglar. 57 00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:27,630 You see on the end of the plants, 58 00:02:28,170 --> 00:02:29,730 we're looking to keep the integrity of the roof, 59 00:02:29,870 --> 00:02:31,670 the way it's designed, as well as the ease. 60 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:36,390 We're going to try to replicate that as we head out to the back of the structure. 61 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:38,330 You'll see that in the pictures of the photos. 62 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:40,330 There's a one-story roof in the back. 63 00:02:41,930 --> 00:02:43,750 The end wall, which is fall apart, 64 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:46,290 so we clean out the house right out in the mall. 65 00:02:46,290 --> 00:02:46,870 that we know. 66 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:50,030 That's some, some migrant care looking to get the final approval. 67 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:55,430 So, the goal is to do two-story addition on top of the foundation in the back, in a partial 68 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:59,690 closet, which will be over the garage, only far enough because it arrived, obviously, 69 00:02:59,930 --> 00:03:04,690 is being set back to pre-existing, so the second story, you have to come form, which is 70 00:03:04,690 --> 00:03:07,830 to the way Daniel and my plans are, but 71 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:17,460 believe you've gotten the insight, you're going to let 72 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:19,920 you go and bump into the shield of this foundation. 73 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:21,820 and house on us. He was the district 74 00:03:21,820 --> 00:03:23,480 apparently inside. It was like a 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,560 horrible thing to show me. She 76 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,360 don't think that we know that stuff. 77 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,980 It was all that stuff. I mean, got 78 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:31,380 a video. I'm ready to start with 79 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:31,660 your own. 80 00:03:43,410 --> 00:03:44,590 Very thing lighter of 81 00:03:44,590 --> 00:03:45,850 this promise. Can I 82 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:50,270 say anything else? 83 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:58,590 It keeps all the movement. We got it. 84 00:03:58,610 --> 00:03:59,610 One of the important 85 00:04:04,990 --> 00:04:09,630 So the addition is right out of the back is is almost entirely out of that. 86 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:09,950 Yeah. 87 00:04:10,570 --> 00:04:10,790 Yeah. 88 00:04:10,870 --> 00:04:12,030 The foundation. 89 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:14,930 Footprint of the building is changing or not. 90 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:16,030 Footprint is staying the same. 91 00:04:16,210 --> 00:04:16,430 Okay. 92 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:17,410 So this is just your. 93 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:17,810 Yeah. 94 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:18,510 We're taking the back. 95 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:21,210 Is on the second floor of the first calendar. 96 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:22,930 You have to feed just a little more space. 97 00:04:23,170 --> 00:04:25,030 We're trying to create a support version of this. 98 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:27,530 You know, just to fit the neighborhood and family. 99 00:05:03,540 --> 00:05:07,800 So it's a plan that the windows will just have a divided light on top and then open on the bottom. 100 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,460 I was actually going to do a center bar and top and bottom sash for the real hot bottom. 101 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:13,060 Okay. 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,640 Yeah, I like that better. 103 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Yeah, when you keep the same window lined up on the front just because you know, 104 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,360 I kind of like the character of the house and that's the next version of the character. 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,600 So we're going to maintain the window placement, 106 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,920 doing the difference in the window. 107 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:25,540 We're going to shift the frontal action center. 108 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:28,040 It's all set up now for whatever reason for orders to go. 109 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,600 So we're going to just establish that to a center, you know, center front door. 110 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,460 nice three-foot-width door. No sign lights. We're going to take the kind of look that it is now. 111 00:05:36,820 --> 00:05:40,560 So, you know, the double-hungs on the front of the house will be two over two. 112 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Yeah, there'll be a single work of art, yet two over two. 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:50,180 Is the front of the house still the same if this is just showing like the extension of that? 114 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:54,740 Or is it going to be still the same front of the house? 115 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,620 Yeah, the roof line is going to state that online discussion of roof line. 116 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:03,860 I was trying to maintain things as they ease the way they're trimmed out above and restrain down when I swore I was trying to pay 117 00:06:03,860 --> 00:06:08,200 I was the ordinance. I'll try to match it. I do the basket. I'm starting to throw off the system. 118 00:06:23,060 --> 00:06:26,700 I'm going to do the chain elevation V about the position once it's connected. 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,760 That's compared to what this currently is. 120 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,080 The front elevation won't change at all. I'm going to take one of those and put it back in the same openings. 121 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:34,840 Same with that. Look, he said, where they are. 122 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,020 It's only in front or it's going to change from the front view. 123 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:48,460 keep in the front porch, couldn't restore everything but then I get the same line, you know, if you look at that, if you're tearing off a 24, that place is going to stay the same right line because you found these guys in the back. 124 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:54,860 So I'm going to be getting the same roof line beside the layout. So what you see in the front way that we call it, the motion way. 125 00:06:54,940 --> 00:06:59,320 The way it steps off, I'll do the same thing on the rear of the house, two to minimum front of the house. 126 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:27,670 The 127 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:37,750 window configuration on the rear of the house looks like we're obviously adding 128 00:07:38,530 --> 00:07:43,330 adding it in, but we're adding Windows on site. 129 00:07:44,870 --> 00:07:47,870 Yeah, so the new part, the first one was there. 130 00:07:48,830 --> 00:07:52,210 That'll still be, you know, the kitchen, the kitchen was there and the bigger kitchen. 131 00:07:52,370 --> 00:07:53,090 So you're being tentable. 132 00:07:53,470 --> 00:07:54,810 The casing was over the kitchen, it's safe. 133 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:57,470 And then the second floor, less similar with us to the front. 134 00:07:57,650 --> 00:07:59,150 Right from egress, they'll be a certain size. 135 00:07:59,150 --> 00:08:01,810 When they're like the front of the house, that'll be the master bedroom. 136 00:08:01,810 --> 00:08:05,410 I can't really tell how, 137 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:11,990 How prominent the ship route is off the back of the house. 138 00:08:13,770 --> 00:08:16,010 We're a little overhanging the gap over my car. 139 00:08:16,290 --> 00:08:16,990 You mean the cannelly? 140 00:08:17,190 --> 00:08:17,790 Yes, you do. 141 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:19,290 It's going to be just a piece of paper. 142 00:08:19,630 --> 00:08:20,530 Stay stay on the cannelly. 143 00:08:20,730 --> 00:08:22,490 And that's like the local police structures. 144 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:23,290 Yeah. 145 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:24,370 We still will hang on the river. 146 00:08:24,650 --> 00:08:24,910 We'll go to the public. 147 00:08:24,910 --> 00:08:27,250 Global levels and I think we'll be solving by ducking. 148 00:08:27,490 --> 00:08:28,850 Nothing more to face there. 149 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:29,470 Champion owner. 150 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:32,350 Ask both shingles on that to match the rest of the game. 151 00:08:32,350 --> 00:08:32,490 Yeah. 152 00:08:32,490 --> 00:08:33,790 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 153 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,700 Yeah. I don't know if we're going to go with metal. It's for 154 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:43,220 importantly, the thought of battery. You know, maybe maybe maybe some kind of 155 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:47,340 belt. Maybe look nice and just get the asphalt. Um, that's, you know, as 156 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:50,680 important for you guys tonight to this, you know, the discussed, but then and I 157 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:51,520 could kick it out around. 158 00:08:53,710 --> 00:08:56,810 We'll kind of pitch use that on the front. It's 159 00:08:56,810 --> 00:09:00,610 it's law, it's maybe like a forearm. You know, and then I've good enough to shingle, 160 00:09:00,810 --> 00:09:04,030 right? I'm confident shins on your water problems, but I'm sure I can go to 161 00:09:04,030 --> 00:09:08,370 nice and metal on a two made look nice but yeah everything 162 00:09:10,770 --> 00:09:11,230 else would be 163 00:09:11,230 --> 00:09:15,350 asked for 100% from the drawings it looks like you know whatever you do 164 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:19,590 decide to put it over the porch would be some with this yeah yeah I wanted to 165 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:24,510 make it dress here 100% yeah the plan at this point would be to use ask for what you 166 00:09:24,510 --> 00:09:27,990 might you know I'm afraid that I'll take a man look nice 167 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:28,450 You know, 168 00:09:33,170 --> 00:09:36,350 even 169 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:45,520 if we're gonna fall for sure in good shape, we're gonna keep all that so we can keep what we can. 170 00:09:46,340 --> 00:09:48,220 What kind of material are you using on the deck? 171 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,600 Well, the deck actually, it's mahogany, so I'm just gonna sand and refinished it. 172 00:09:52,660 --> 00:09:55,840 It's all mahogany, you know, your typical porch deck and right tongue will move. 173 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:56,300 Okay. 174 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,060 That's what we're looking for. 175 00:09:58,420 --> 00:10:00,000 It's got a tongue-room pine ceiling. 176 00:10:00,820 --> 00:10:01,440 So, yeah. 177 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:03,680 Same thing I would do if I was in a scratch. 178 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,140 It's nice. 179 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:13,850 I'm sorry, I meant the rear deck. Oh wow. I'll probably do like um like I did up the street for the 180 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:17,910 ones. I probably do like Mahogany shouldn't that. I'm like a Mahogany looking backing. I'm positive. 181 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:23,330 Yeah. I like the vintage Mahogany and look. Some of them are talking in the house, you know, for sure. 182 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:51,900 Are the rest of your windows the light cuts on and consistent all the things we actually have to do? 183 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,700 All would be a nice center and my center for the top bottom. Yeah. 184 00:10:54,700 --> 00:11:00,620 And we're all going to be serious for one hundred million. Yes. Yeah, I believe we're going to probably do like I'm sure in the front of the house 185 00:11:00,620 --> 00:11:06,020 That you typically does when they hand you signs these are going to the street probably the SDL for the front the simulate by the light 186 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:09,940 And I may do you know some some of them even find like productive on the rest of the house 187 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:15,600 But definitely in front like you drew up the street, you know emails very well with what's required. So that'll be that the bar 188 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,680 You know I'll slide you know the SDL look 189 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,220 I'll set. 190 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,000 This Rodriguez may have motion to go through and this gas section. 191 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:39,600 Mr Rodriguez. 192 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Yes. 193 00:11:41,660 --> 00:11:43,160 Can you miss the van Aarddale? 194 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:43,540 Yes. 195 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:44,740 And this gas. 196 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:45,120 Yes. 197 00:11:46,020 --> 00:11:46,440 Okay. 198 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,320 You have a approval. 199 00:11:48,020 --> 00:11:51,280 Within the next couple of days, I will get a new letter. 200 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,700 Even that. 201 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,000 And you can take that and we're going to do it again. 202 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,500 Yeah, that's your blog, but you got it. 203 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:00,600 Thank you for your time. 204 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:01,260 Thank you very much. 205 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:01,680 Thank you. 206 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:02,820 Thank you. 207 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,620 Thank you. 208 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,600 I'd like to take about a five minute recess before we get into the department of meeting. 209 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:17,460 All right. 210 00:12:21,470 --> 00:12:22,310 What's the other six? 211 00:12:23,950 --> 00:12:24,690 There's no expected. 212 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:25,750 You only go on that. 213 00:12:25,950 --> 00:12:26,490 But we won't. 214 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:26,990 Yes. 215 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:51,890 We're going to go into executive session for a few minutes. 216 00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:54,570 that's right. 217 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:56,330 That's right. 218 00:13:56,430 --> 00:13:57,210 We're good. 219 00:13:58,750 --> 00:13:59,330 We 220 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:03,520 want to join in. 221 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:07,420 Oh, that's a good idea. 222 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,580 Back is for that. 223 00:14:11,870 --> 00:14:12,450 Yes. 224 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:13,110 That right. 225 00:14:13,270 --> 00:14:14,150 Did he change his. 226 00:14:14,330 --> 00:14:15,050 This one's. 227 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:15,610 That's the. 228 00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:17,930 I would say. 229 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:20,110 I mean, it's yours. 230 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:21,150 Well, 231 00:14:22,450 --> 00:14:23,210 it's started. 232 00:14:23,610 --> 00:14:24,190 The. 233 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:25,710 The government. 234 00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:26,750 Okay. 235 00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:28,890 Is that the one you submitted previously? 236 00:14:28,890 --> 00:14:30,630 That's what I know. 237 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:33,570 Yes, then that's the one you have in your back. 238 00:14:33,870 --> 00:14:33,950 Yeah. 239 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:35,390 Okay. 240 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:40,950 So, Bill Pauline is not part of the quote-unquote old mother house. 241 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:43,490 We talked about that property, the worst carpet. 242 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:47,050 Not the new comp that was developed in 2018, but the one that was prior. 243 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:49,310 Bill Pauline is not the same problem. 244 00:14:49,950 --> 00:14:51,610 I talk about the structure of something. 245 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:55,530 I mean, that's the old Cromwell House. 246 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:57,690 Is that what you're asking me? 247 00:14:57,690 --> 00:14:59,970 The oak from the house is now. 248 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,240 Now call the bill of polling. It is bill of polling. Right. And that is not the old mother house convent. It's very boring, close to it. Actually, it's an upside to the 23 A. It was, it was, it was the one that there's temporal abuse on the temporary basis of the decision. Yes, the night, early night. Okay. Yeah. That is not, but that is not the convent that we're talking about as the old mother house for lack of that term. Yeah. It's, we're calling the old mother house now. 249 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:40,960 I don't have a code copy in front of you, but the garbys that you're referring to, I think 250 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,180 this page 9 is an aerial map. 251 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,900 Where are the gardens and relations to the point about this? 252 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:56,060 Page 9, if you were reporting, June 15th, is there anything else you want to say? 253 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:03,420 So, if you look on page two of what I submitted, the June 15th of 12th. 254 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,120 No, today, sorry about that. 255 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:06,520 That's right. 256 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:10,400 The reason why I wanted to talk about it in the page nine here is because it shows 257 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,360 the old mother house and the new mother house has an end point for villa police 258 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,940 and it's got all the role of those meetings. 259 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:19,640 That's the reason why I wanted to refer to it at one of the times. 260 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:25,870 Page nine of the two dancing reports, figure seven. 261 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:31,060 And what is your question? 262 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,880 Yeah, so see the guards that he were referring to 263 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,100 that are to pick us, the page two of your 264 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,580 seminal today and of our honesty. 265 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,860 Where are they located on this map? 266 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,280 So they are to the, 267 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,860 okay, let's assume that North is at the top. 268 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,900 They are to the west and south of 269 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:54,860 vilipolline. 270 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,060 And if you look on page two 271 00:16:57,060 --> 00:17:03,280 of what of the presentation that's on that's on the screen yes see how it says 272 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,420 Italian gardens on that that's where they are and that yellow is 273 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:17,860 filipoli okay the bill of Pauline is mark next to Bernard's well right no but 274 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:21,660 on your map it is that's why I'm confused search all rows on the bottom 275 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,800 I'm referring to the map from picker 9, picker 7 on page 9, and we're doing the 2-digit. 276 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:38,120 Yes, the star is where, that's Villa Coli. 277 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:38,660 Yes. 278 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:45,320 And you said the lower garden, and it's just where the gardens are. 279 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,160 That's the map that's helpful for me. 280 00:17:47,660 --> 00:17:49,680 Not the old map, that's why I'm trying to say that. 281 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,860 Can I come out to you? 282 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:19,720 or no. So you're indicating roughly around bigger 283 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,280 were the stars right? 284 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,420 Right between the old mother asked 285 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:24,080 did the mother ask? 286 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:27,420 No, no, no. 287 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:27,980 They go up. 288 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,500 No, between the 289 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:28,680 the 290 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,020 the and the 291 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,940 and will of Pauline is where they are. 292 00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:37,500 There are kind of behind them. 293 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:53,210 So I have a question. 294 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:55,470 It's safe to say that the Italian 295 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:57,290 gardens are shared by 296 00:18:57,290 --> 00:18:58,690 bill of Pauline and the board. 297 00:18:58,830 --> 00:19:01,050 If you want to speak or ask 298 00:19:01,050 --> 00:19:02,090 questions, you have to 299 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:03,850 I'm like, well, I'm sorry. 300 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:05,410 No, it's for the record. 301 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:06,410 So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 302 00:19:06,410 --> 00:19:08,290 I'll state your name and... 303 00:19:09,010 --> 00:19:10,790 You can pull a chair up to two with these. 304 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:12,250 No, I won't do it, I'll see. 305 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:13,290 You can do it. 306 00:19:14,790 --> 00:19:16,150 So, I dare you to start thinking. 307 00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:19,550 Gene Blohrman, 420, 415T Burns, well, ain't it? 308 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:21,250 But your last name, please? 309 00:19:21,630 --> 00:19:23,030 Yeah, G-O-R-R-M-A-N. 310 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,640 I just had a point of clarification. 311 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:32,760 I have a point of clarification in regards 312 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,720 to where the Italian gardens are located, 313 00:19:36,060 --> 00:19:39,080 given the fact that I walked the property extensively. 314 00:19:39,980 --> 00:19:44,000 They're basically, my understanding is, my, or my thought is, 315 00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:48,420 they're literally right between the old mother house, 316 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Malenclot Convent, and Villa Polly, and slightly behind them. 317 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,620 But they're shared by the two buildings, it's my point. 318 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,700 Okay, thank you. 319 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,000 So that paper roadway, we call it paper roadway, 320 00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:09,240 it is Thunder, Fish, or Roadway. 321 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:11,340 Is it to the south of that paper roadway? 322 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:13,300 I'm just trying to understand exactly what they are. 323 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:14,140 At least you told me. 324 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:14,880 North. 325 00:20:15,220 --> 00:20:17,400 They're north of the paper roadway. 326 00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:17,960 Okay. 327 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,720 And in which we did new content. 328 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:23,800 Right, that was built in 2018 now. 329 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,140 No, no, no, no, no, no. 330 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:25,860 Old. 331 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:26,900 The old. 332 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:27,580 The old. 333 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,760 I had that old one. 334 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:29,220 Yeah. 335 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Okay. 336 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:37,060 So the location is in Mallon Park, it's in Philadelphia, and then the New Modern House. 337 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,720 They're basically all in a row. 338 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:40,340 Okay, 339 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:51,240 when do you anticipate getting some feedback on your application? 340 00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:53,400 Yeah, it's on the state. 341 00:20:53,840 --> 00:21:01,360 The state has finally hired some new people because it has taken a very long time in the past. 342 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:12,140 I mean, when I say a very long time, I mean a year, last summer, I got a response to something 343 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:16,820 I had submitted this summer before. They have hired new people, so I can't imagine it's 344 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:21,240 going to be 12 months, but I really don't know. I'm sure that there is some sort of federal, 345 00:21:21,580 --> 00:21:29,040 there is probably a rule that says within 45 days you need to respond, but I don't know 346 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,120 that they adhere to that. 347 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,360 So I don't know. 348 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,160 Does your application provide any kind of a stay 349 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840 on development of the property in any way? 350 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,620 Not at all. 351 00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:45,000 And I mean, really, Nord is listing. 352 00:21:46,260 --> 00:21:49,580 Because it's going to be private money anyway. 353 00:21:50,140 --> 00:21:53,020 Listing on the state or national register, 354 00:21:53,260 --> 00:21:55,500 unless there's public funds somehow involved, 355 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,840 But listing doesn't do anything either. 356 00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:04,120 Well, we've even seen with public funds sometimes. 357 00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:11,100 So that doesn't necessarily limit what happens to you. 358 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Well, so what it does, you know, what we say in preservationists, 359 00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:18,520 we're not trying to stop change, we're trying to manage it. 360 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:28,340 And so, what listing could conceivably do is say, hey, those guardians, they're important 361 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:38,120 keep them, that the convent building that's important, keep it, and so it could provide 362 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:43,960 some guardrails and frame what can be developed in what can. 363 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Yeah. 364 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:46,460 Okay. 365 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:53,520 Well, for anybody that's ever done business with our group here, they would know that, generally 366 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,300 speaking, we don't like to knock down store buildings. 367 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,020 Some things have been taken down recently. 368 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:13,620 I wasn't in favor of any of them, but we have a democratic process here, and that's the 369 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:14,080 way it works. 370 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:29,600 But I'd like to hear more about what you're looking to accomplish and what you think we 371 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,820 might be able to provide to you. 372 00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:41,780 We do need to do this all in a very transparent way and that's why Mr. Test is here with us. 373 00:23:41,780 --> 00:23:50,160 And some of the things that you would ask us to consider in your original letter were 374 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:59,620 going to be difficult for us to do, but it seems like you have some different things 375 00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:08,200 about different things that you might like this to look at, and I'm hoping I did today. 376 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,100 Can I give you a sample draft? 377 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,180 And then regardless of what we want to see in the application, 378 00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:17,800 I'm not sure if that's getting so. 379 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:27,500 So our main request tonight is if you could just endorse our application to begin to 380 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:27,880 do that. 381 00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:35,970 Can you guys should pop in that? 382 00:24:36,550 --> 00:24:37,730 I'll put it in the file. 383 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:38,230 Yeah. 384 00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:40,010 I'll give you a minute. 385 00:24:40,010 --> 00:24:41,090 So, 386 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,200 as I said in my opening remarks, this has nothing to do but we're not asking you to 387 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,900 take any decision on the pending or future developments. 388 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:21,420 And this letter only applies to the eligibility signature, sorry. 389 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:43,200 You would provide this to the same folks that are reviewing your application, is that the 390 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,180 the purpose of this letter or no letter, this letter is in fourth place. 391 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,540 No, but you would be, you would be coming from you as the chair of the HBC. 392 00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:00,760 So you want us to send to provide this letter to the, to the, to the, to the, to the HP. 393 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Oh, that is the letter is going to be like in your app, okay? 394 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:09,960 Yeah, that's just a sample, you can, of course, drop your own, but this is what we are hoping, 395 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,520 okay. 396 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:16,880 But this is the basic outline of what you're looking at. 397 00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:26,930 I think your support will go a long way. 398 00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:34,110 What else can we do for you tonight? 399 00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:36,250 Do you understand it or so I can't? 400 00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:41,770 I'm not able to tell you yes or no right at this particular moment. 401 00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:56,650 But we will, you know, we need to see the entire application that you file with the DEP, for sure, including any report for the person on the previously provided to us, obviously we want that report. 402 00:26:57,090 --> 00:27:04,930 So everything that was submitted to the DEP for their state's preservation opinion. 403 00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:11,290 We want to we want to see the first before that the chair will be able to do anything to come in one 404 00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:14,910 I'm safe 405 00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:20,830 I want to read this to I've wanted to understand and some of the other items in there 406 00:27:20,830 --> 00:27:23,410 I think you've answered a lot of the questions that we have already on this 407 00:27:26,210 --> 00:27:29,750 So that the most important thing that maybe more questions, let's receive that 408 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:35,300 What else can we do for you 409 00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:37,540 Thank you. 410 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,660 Thank you for your time. 411 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,340 Okay. 412 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:40,580 Thank you. 413 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:48,340 The more we talk about this property, at least for me, it's an education. 414 00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:55,300 I know you might think that we know what an awful lot of that was. 415 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 You know, what's going on with this property. 416 00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:03,380 But speaking for myself, I mean, I get second-handed. 417 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:10,460 and you folks are, I think, probably closer to what's actually happening within now. 418 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:21,500 And the details of the property and the buildings and that information about that view is because 419 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:30,380 the property is not typical of the properties that we do or the views that we've been, which 420 00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:34,240 often they're very visible and out of the plain sighted. 421 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:39,620 The idea of my idea was that when he actually looked at the 20th century or 422 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:44,740 part of the big development, it stops here and right there would be a little 423 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:50,360 bullying. I mean it's like a few yards away. So I wondered how long 424 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,040 the bullying would stay if this development or so was too. 425 00:28:57,350 --> 00:29:01,450 Can you also provide us with a copy of the survey that you had 426 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:04,190 a reference scenario to sub, was it the summer set, 427 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:05,770 or some of the olds work work, 428 00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:06,750 I'd like to see that. 429 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:07,110 Okay. 430 00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:09,250 Because that obviously is not binding on this 431 00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:10,550 or preservation commission. 432 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,810 It's not all regulations that are developed on the workments. 433 00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:15,930 I don't even know how the context was raised. 434 00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:17,310 Do you know how that context was raised? 435 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:17,970 Like what the... 436 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:20,830 Yeah, I don't, like who hired him to create 437 00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:23,690 this overarching document, I don't know. 438 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:26,210 Okay, because I, when I looked at it, 439 00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:29,490 there was a reference in an FCC application. 440 00:29:29,490 --> 00:29:37,370 I think it was a reference to the tower, the tower, the tower, where the tower itself was. 441 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:43,350 And that is why the architecturalist historian who did that one 442 00:29:45,050 --> 00:29:48,130 thought that the convent would be eligible. 443 00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:52,480 But that's as far as that one went. 444 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Yeah, I'd like to see, you know, see, well, frankly, that's certainly the reference. 445 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,960 And I... 446 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Do you have the one that resulted in the, do you have that application for the antenna? But you do because I, because I have that as well. But you have it. Okay. 447 00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:32,810 No, it's, I've got to tell you it's a, it's a really remarkable property. I mean, you know, as a historian, I don't often get hit after hit, like information, information, prominent architect. 448 00:30:32,810 --> 00:30:39,310 like you know written about in the magazine it's like it doesn't you know you get one of those I got them all here 449 00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:42,190 I mean it's it's a it's a it's a it's a remarkable property 450 00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:46,650 mm-hmm it's a property that it's gonna be worth a walk around just to look at it 451 00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:50,010 there's a number of things I should be able to do 452 00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:51,910 yeah I wanted to 453 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:55,370 I mean we do it to do it through a rate of admissions 454 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:56,950 it's probably a thing about that 455 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:57,530 okay 456 00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:00,530 You'd be up for a win. 457 00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:07,330 I really want to, I mean, are there some events that you have? 458 00:31:07,410 --> 00:31:08,170 Oh, there's not sure. 459 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:12,430 Yeah, there's not really an event, the concert that I had coming up. 460 00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:17,050 Yeah, so really, the day was open to the public. 461 00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:17,670 Yeah. 462 00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:23,230 They had a carnival there, and I just, I missed it by a day. 463 00:31:23,510 --> 00:31:26,070 Anyway, so yeah, I think they do do stuff there. 464 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:28,490 Yeah. Is it next week? In the next week? 465 00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:29,010 In the next week? 466 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,850 Yes, I think in my 20s or 26s. 467 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:34,050 It should be sore, because we... 468 00:31:34,050 --> 00:31:35,070 Because I might do that. 469 00:31:35,950 --> 00:31:36,250 I don't know. 470 00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:39,270 I tried to do a stealth mission. 471 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:41,710 Well, this is due to the fundraiser. 472 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:45,650 And my car kind of broke down a little bit. 473 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:46,550 Like on the rock. 474 00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:47,590 I mean, this is embarrassing. 475 00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:49,730 So I had my teenager's car. 476 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:53,270 I was not slow. 477 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:55,610 Well, because like there was like a cat, I don't know, it doesn't matter. 478 00:31:57,850 --> 00:32:08,410 If you could get us that information on your application so we can evaluate this and write 479 00:32:08,410 --> 00:32:09,010 all for you. 480 00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:10,730 What's the point? 481 00:32:12,050 --> 00:32:12,730 Thank you. 482 00:32:12,810 --> 00:32:13,490 There's someone. 483 00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:14,630 Join us anytime. 484 00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:15,850 Thank you. 485 00:32:19,550 --> 00:32:20,130 There's someone. 486 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:20,810 Join us anytime. 487 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:39,090 There's someone. 488 00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:42,170 things you'll be all right thank you still 489 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,600 chairman asked we discussed it discussion 490 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,700 I just noticed that there are some 491 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:06,060 internal now I will be in the past resolution all right so the private 492 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:10,580 The residents are also concerned with the residential board. 493 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:11,680 Let us have support. 494 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,560 Thank you. 495 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:18,080 I think we'll... 496 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,680 Level motion. 497 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:20,420 Motion to adjourn. 498 00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:21,880 Mr. Ravegan has been in motion. 499 00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:22,800 I'll second that. 500 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:23,580 Second. 501 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:24,140 All in favor. 502 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Hi. 503 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,500 Can I get those? 504 00:33:28,620 --> 00:33:29,000 Yes. 505 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,380 You're watching Mendem TV. 506 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:42,840 The television station of the Mendems on Verizon Channel 22, Comcast Channel 29, and streaming 507 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,780 on MendemTV.org