1 00:00:03,781 --> 00:00:09,997 Yeah, I don't think so. All right. I'm opening the meeting at 6:30 PM on 2 00:00:09,997 --> 00:00:15,957 7/16/2025. This meeting is being recorded. We have one member remote, 3 00:00:15,957 --> 00:00:21,661 so we will be doing roll call vote and we have two members absent. 4 00:00:21,701 --> 00:00:24,301 So please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 5 00:00:25,621 --> 00:00:31,344 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 6 00:00:31,344 --> 00:00:36,303 Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 7 00:00:36,303 --> 00:00:38,821 with liberty and justice for all. 8 00:00:43,061 --> 00:00:47,516 Alrighty, so citizen statements and petitions 9 00:00:47,516 --> 00:00:55,360 looking at anybody online or in the room would like to approach and speak to the 10 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:55,941 board. 11 00:00:57,141 --> 00:01:01,128 All right. Seeing no hands, we'll move on to #3, 12 00:01:01,128 --> 00:01:06,254 which is correspondence. The first one is the request for town 13 00:01:06,254 --> 00:01:12,356 assistance that came from Oakland. Yeah, so another community reached out, 14 00:01:12,356 --> 00:01:16,261 asked the town to sign on to a letter opposing. 15 00:01:16,421 --> 00:01:20,623 Energy storage facility in their town. I talked with Emergency Management, 16 00:01:20,623 --> 00:01:25,161 talked to the chair as well and we don't feel the town should weigh in on such a 17 00:01:25,161 --> 00:01:29,755 thing and sign our sign our name to it. Each each instance of the battery storage 18 00:01:29,755 --> 00:01:34,013 facility is is different and we don't want to tie their fight with anything 19 00:01:34,013 --> 00:01:35,861 that we're doing and we wouldn't. 20 00:01:36,061 --> 00:01:40,794 Never ask them to sign on a letter for us. So the letters letters in your packet for 21 00:01:40,794 --> 00:01:43,800 you to review, but it's been Emergency Management and 22 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,642 Public Safety's recommendation and mine as well to tell them thanks, 23 00:01:47,642 --> 00:01:48,421 but no thanks. 24 00:01:50,101 --> 00:01:53,214 Is there any discussion? I would tend to agree. 25 00:01:53,214 --> 00:01:58,141 There's nothing for us to really do here just to acknowledge that publicly. 26 00:02:00,421 --> 00:02:03,842 All right. So the other correspondence was from the 27 00:02:03,842 --> 00:02:06,999 town clerk with the new open meeting law guide. 28 00:02:06,999 --> 00:02:11,867 And so there are a lot of different individual documents to go through as 29 00:02:11,867 --> 00:02:15,616 well as that large, there's one large coalesce document. 30 00:02:15,616 --> 00:02:18,181 And so tonight there's no vote on this. 31 00:02:20,181 --> 00:02:24,817 But tonight the board signed off on receiving those new updates, 32 00:02:24,817 --> 00:02:30,665 as will every member of every committee and board that meets publicly here in the 33 00:02:30,665 --> 00:02:33,518 town. And so just small adjustments and 34 00:02:33,518 --> 00:02:36,941 reminders of how we need to run these meetings. 35 00:02:37,141 --> 00:02:40,541 So hopefully we're doing a good job. 36 00:02:41,941 --> 00:02:46,189 Um. So community events and announcements we 37 00:02:46,189 --> 00:02:46,661 have. 38 00:02:48,741 --> 00:02:54,550 I'm going to make 635 watching. We have two community events coming up. 39 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:59,230 We have the 25th Taft Public Library Cardboard Boat Race, 40 00:02:59,230 --> 00:03:05,442 which is July 23rd at 6:30 PM and I believe the 18th is the last day for you 41 00:03:05,442 --> 00:03:07,701 to sign up. You can do that. 42 00:03:08,261 --> 00:03:12,981 Uh, get that link on the library website and. 43 00:03:14,341 --> 00:03:19,647 The Mendon Lions Circus is gonna there's going to be a circus here on the 17th. 44 00:03:19,647 --> 00:03:24,887 There'll be one show and on the 18th there are two shows and you can buy those 45 00:03:24,887 --> 00:03:30,193 tickets at the Charles River Bank right across the street from where it's going 46 00:03:30,193 --> 00:03:32,381 to be held up here on the corner. 47 00:03:32,661 --> 00:03:38,668 You can search them on Facebook, Mending Lions on Facebook as well and 48 00:03:38,668 --> 00:03:44,505 find the information there. So and you can see a select board member 49 00:03:44,505 --> 00:03:47,381 Mr. Chanel there as well with his. 50 00:03:47,781 --> 00:03:51,276 I should have talked a little slower cause. So yeah, 51 00:03:51,276 --> 00:03:56,486 I'll be a judge at the carpool boat race. So I I hope to see some folks there. 52 00:03:56,486 --> 00:04:01,762 I think the select board is going to have the select board needs to get its act 53 00:04:01,762 --> 00:04:06,180 together and build a boat. We're going to at least try on Saturday 54 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:07,301 to get something. 55 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:10,541 Started. So, uh, Elena, yeah. 56 00:04:12,381 --> 00:04:17,763 So I just a little a point of order, I think just having recently reviewed the 57 00:04:17,763 --> 00:04:23,417 open meeting laws, I believe that Jason, the chair is supposed to say the names of 58 00:04:23,417 --> 00:04:27,981 any board members who are attending remotely, not just the number. 59 00:04:29,621 --> 00:04:33,781 OK, I'm gonna assume I didn't say that 60 00:04:33,781 --> 00:04:40,288 because you're telling me that, but we can't rewind. So yes, 61 00:04:40,288 --> 00:04:44,981 Elena Brugos is attending remotely, so and. 62 00:04:45,021 --> 00:04:50,181 Chair Member Maroli and Goddard are absent. Thank you. 63 00:04:50,621 --> 00:04:50,981 Thank you. 64 00:04:51,541 --> 00:04:51,741 Thanks. 65 00:04:55,381 --> 00:05:00,350 All right, so it's 6:35 and we have a public hearing 66 00:05:00,350 --> 00:05:07,099 to open. And so I will do that now. The Mendon Select Board will hold a 67 00:05:07,099 --> 00:05:13,661 public hearing on Wednesday, July 16th, 2025 at 6:35 PM in the upper. 68 00:05:14,861 --> 00:05:20,340 Town Hall located at 20 Main St. and in Massachusetts to consider the 69 00:05:20,340 --> 00:05:26,367 transfer of a package store license for the sale of wines and malt beverages 70 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:32,315 under NGL Chapter 138, Section 12. The license is currently held by you can 71 00:05:32,315 --> 00:05:32,941 come up. 72 00:05:33,221 --> 00:05:39,239 147 Hartford Ave. Hartford Ave. Mendon LLC doing business at Savon being 73 00:05:39,239 --> 00:05:45,092 transferred to MKG Mendon Incorporated doing business at Savon and all 74 00:05:45,092 --> 00:05:51,687 interested parties are invited to attend and will be given an opportunity to be 75 00:05:51,687 --> 00:05:52,181 heard. 76 00:05:53,461 --> 00:05:58,381 And I am making a motion to open this public hearing second. 77 00:06:00,141 --> 00:06:04,221 Discussion. All those in favor. 78 00:06:06,981 --> 00:06:13,856 Hooter, aye. All right, motion passes. So welcome. Thank you. 79 00:06:07,741 --> 00:06:07,941 Up. 80 00:06:09,501 --> 00:06:10,621 Rugo's eye. 81 00:06:13,856 --> 00:06:21,618 We were we are with Savon with MKG and in case you had any questions, 82 00:06:21,618 --> 00:06:24,501 we just wanted to be here. 83 00:06:24,981 --> 00:06:30,843 Well, my first question, it's Savon, not Savon. It's they call it Savon. OK, 84 00:06:30,843 --> 00:06:34,268 just want to make sure I pronounce properly. 85 00:06:34,268 --> 00:06:39,901 So I guess the big open question is why are we transferring this license? 86 00:06:40,581 --> 00:06:43,486 Really quickly after you guys have opened. Yeah. 87 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:47,874 So just I'll start with my spiel and if you have any follow up questions, 88 00:06:47,874 --> 00:06:51,786 could you say your name before you start? Yes, I'm Sydney Procos. 89 00:06:51,786 --> 00:06:55,462 I'm a attorney with VR and DJ and Philippo. Here's my client, 90 00:06:55,462 --> 00:06:58,664 Marcel Georges, who is the new owner and proposed new 91 00:06:58,664 --> 00:07:00,501 manager for this slipper store. 92 00:07:00,541 --> 00:07:06,168 So we represent MKG Mendon Inc and we are seeking your approval to transfer the 93 00:07:06,168 --> 00:07:11,372 beer and wine license from 147 to our client and acknowledging you may be 94 00:07:11,372 --> 00:07:16,155 familiar with this license. It was recently approved to 147 and now 95 00:07:16,155 --> 00:07:19,741 it's getting transferred to our client who is the. 96 00:07:20,221 --> 00:07:23,528 The new owner. So with that new ownership that license 97 00:07:23,528 --> 00:07:28,458 needs to be transferred as well and it's a requirement by a VCC that we go before 98 00:07:28,458 --> 00:07:33,389 the town just like we did the first time and now to to have it be approved to our 99 00:07:33,389 --> 00:07:37,537 client Mr. Marcel Georges. But this is an internal change and I want 100 00:07:37,537 --> 00:07:39,581 to highlight that everything that. 101 00:07:39,861 --> 00:07:43,202 That you just approved. None of that changes the location, 102 00:07:43,202 --> 00:07:46,938 the hours of operation, then even the name, like nothing changes. 103 00:07:46,938 --> 00:07:51,581 This is just a requirement by ABCC to go before you guys and approve the transfer 104 00:07:51,581 --> 00:07:55,261 of the license itself. OK, so internally management ownership is 105 00:07:55,261 --> 00:07:58,261 changing and therefore we need to update everything. 106 00:07:58,341 --> 00:08:02,501 Nice and officially, but everything else we've previously 107 00:08:02,501 --> 00:08:08,310 talked about in front of the public here has been the same. No external changes. 108 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:11,179 Yeah, just the just this one particular 109 00:08:11,179 --> 00:08:14,621 location, correct? Yes, just this one location. 110 00:08:15,301 --> 00:08:15,821 Yeah. 111 00:08:16,981 --> 00:08:20,723 Right. So if there's no more comments from the 112 00:08:20,723 --> 00:08:25,181 select board, I would open up comments from the public. 113 00:08:29,941 --> 00:08:34,363 And seeing none, I would just ask the board one more time 114 00:08:34,363 --> 00:08:39,928 if they had any more questions or if it's clear, it's very semantic. OK, 115 00:08:39,928 --> 00:08:45,341 so then I would make a motion to close this 635 public hearing second. 116 00:08:45,661 --> 00:08:46,941 Our discussion. 117 00:08:48,701 --> 00:08:52,701 Hearing none, all those in favor Kuder aye. 118 00:08:52,781 --> 00:08:54,221 Rugose eye. 119 00:08:55,461 --> 00:08:58,968 Motion passes. So now we would need to then make a 120 00:08:58,968 --> 00:09:02,887 another motion. So I'd be looking for a motion to do the 121 00:09:02,887 --> 00:09:06,188 approval. I move to approve the transfer of the 122 00:09:06,188 --> 00:09:11,689 package store license for the sale of wines and mall beverages to MK MKG Menden 123 00:09:11,689 --> 00:09:14,301 Incorporated does business as save on. 124 00:09:15,581 --> 00:09:15,861 2nd. 125 00:09:15,821 --> 00:09:22,660 All right. Any discussion? It's a lot simpler when two of us are 126 00:09:22,660 --> 00:09:23,501 missing. 127 00:09:24,661 --> 00:09:29,581 Seeing as there's no discussion, all those in favor Kuder Aye. 128 00:09:32,781 --> 00:09:33,181 Brugos eye. 129 00:09:33,981 --> 00:09:40,007 All right. So thanks. You're all set. Congratulations on your new purchase and 130 00:09:40,007 --> 00:09:46,491 we look forward to a successful business. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. 131 00:09:46,491 --> 00:09:47,101 You too. 132 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:51,964 All right, so we have 5 minutes before the next 133 00:09:51,964 --> 00:09:56,400 public hearing. So we're gonna jump forward and we'll 134 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,835 talk about #7, which is the Mending Cultural Council. 135 00:10:00,835 --> 00:10:03,381 They are requesting permission. 136 00:10:03,421 --> 00:10:06,664 To host the second annual Scarecrow contest across town. 137 00:10:06,664 --> 00:10:11,329 And I know this went super well last year. Everybody was super excited to see all 138 00:10:11,329 --> 00:10:15,709 those awesome scarecrows around town. So why don't you tell us more about it 139 00:10:15,709 --> 00:10:18,326 and start with your name? I'm Joanne Lamothe. 140 00:10:18,326 --> 00:10:22,421 I'm a member and committee chairperson for the Mendon Cultural Council. 141 00:10:22,781 --> 00:10:25,909 Once again, the Mendon Cultural Council would like to 142 00:10:25,909 --> 00:10:30,079 do in another scarecrow contest. The contest with registration would be 143 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:33,727 September 1st to the 27th. They can e-mail the Mendon Cultural 144 00:10:33,727 --> 00:10:37,260 Council to register. I'll be also putting Flyers out through 145 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:37,781 town and. 146 00:10:39,061 --> 00:10:43,152 Advertising it through the town website and Facebook social media. 147 00:10:43,152 --> 00:10:48,036 Scarecrows have to be out by October 1st and October 1st to the to the they can 148 00:10:48,036 --> 00:10:52,981 display them October 1st to the 31st. However, judging will be from October 1st. 149 00:10:53,341 --> 00:10:58,369 With the winner announced on the 27th, which we will do a reception and invite 150 00:10:58,369 --> 00:11:01,169 all participants to come and you know, see, 151 00:11:01,169 --> 00:11:05,497 we'll put pictures out of all the scarecrows and all of that stuff, 152 00:11:05,497 --> 00:11:10,779 but at least to be able to see and we can thank them and they can get to see other 153 00:11:10,779 --> 00:11:13,261 the other participants in this contest. 154 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:18,044 As well. And we'll once again, we'll do trophies and award medallions 155 00:11:18,044 --> 00:11:22,507 for people, participation medallions, the same rules of last year. 156 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:25,637 They can't block the line of sight of traffic. 157 00:11:25,637 --> 00:11:28,301 They can't be in the middle of the road. 158 00:11:28,461 --> 00:11:32,588 You know the same exact rules. The only exchange that we're making this 159 00:11:32,588 --> 00:11:35,740 year is when you register, we will give you a QR code. 160 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:40,325 So people will come and they'll take a picture of that QR code and that will be 161 00:11:40,325 --> 00:11:44,737 their vote when they take that picture. So it'll go to a website and it will 162 00:11:44,737 --> 00:11:48,061 tally the votes and that will be their vote and that way. 163 00:11:48,461 --> 00:11:53,256 We will know and as I did last year, I will update Facebook all the time to 164 00:11:53,256 --> 00:11:57,797 let people know where they stand. And I hope again the Town Hall Select 165 00:11:57,797 --> 00:12:02,402 Board participates in this contest because it was a fun thing last year. 166 00:12:02,402 --> 00:12:04,800 Yeah, there was a lot of really great 167 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,701 department participations last year, so yeah. 168 00:12:07,981 --> 00:12:11,608 So let's do that again. I'm here just to get your approval on 169 00:12:11,608 --> 00:12:16,229 that so that we can move forward with this cause we'd like to continue to make 170 00:12:16,229 --> 00:12:19,388 it an annual event if we to keep it going. All right. 171 00:12:19,388 --> 00:12:23,541 So we have these two points on here. We have to do 2 separate motions. 172 00:12:24,261 --> 00:12:31,375 For the reschedule and one for the annual. So I'd be looking for a motion to approve 173 00:12:31,375 --> 00:12:38,239 the Cultural Council to hold the second annual scarecrow contest from October 1st 174 00:12:38,239 --> 00:12:39,661 through the 31st. 175 00:12:41,941 --> 00:12:42,141 2nd. 176 00:12:43,061 --> 00:12:46,261 And do you want to chat? Because I see that you have your hand up. 177 00:12:46,261 --> 00:12:51,332 So I did have a question. Joanne mentioned the the reception for 178 00:12:49,501 --> 00:12:49,781 Yes. 179 00:12:51,332 --> 00:12:57,417 like at the end and I wondered if you could say a little bit more about that. 180 00:12:57,417 --> 00:13:00,381 Will that be on town property as well? 181 00:12:58,901 --> 00:12:59,541 OK. 182 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:05,113 What we were thinking is we'd have it up here in the Town Hall. 183 00:13:05,113 --> 00:13:08,494 We'd have it on the evening of the Town Hall on the 27th. 184 00:13:06,381 --> 00:13:06,821 OK. 185 00:13:08,494 --> 00:13:12,692 When we announced the results, it would be at the reception here at the 186 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:16,482 Town Hall and we, you know, serve some beverages and cookies and 187 00:13:16,482 --> 00:13:19,922 stuff like that. But at least that way that everyone would 188 00:13:19,922 --> 00:13:20,621 be together. 189 00:13:20,661 --> 00:13:27,901 Conflict. So we can reserve sure. Yeah. OK, so all those in favor. 190 00:13:23,701 --> 00:13:24,421 Break. 191 00:13:26,301 --> 00:13:26,661 Thank you. 192 00:13:29,301 --> 00:13:35,830 Kuter aye. Chanel aye. All right, so with reception to be held here in Town 193 00:13:31,861 --> 00:13:32,621 Rugos eye. 194 00:13:35,830 --> 00:13:39,353 Hall. And then we need to reschedule the 195 00:13:39,353 --> 00:13:44,421 scavenger hunt because Oh right, it's two separate events. 196 00:13:45,541 --> 00:13:49,288 Because it was, it was rained out. We didn't have a rain date. 197 00:13:49,288 --> 00:13:54,104 So you'd like to move it to September 21st, I think. Yes, it's a Sunday morning. 198 00:13:54,104 --> 00:13:58,207 We do it from 9:00 to 12:00. It's the same route. Nothing's changed. 199 00:13:58,207 --> 00:14:02,845 It'll start at cleft and end at cleft. It'll be of the old village of Mendon. 200 00:14:02,845 --> 00:14:05,461 Same questions, you know, you get to 1 and. 201 00:14:05,741 --> 00:14:09,148 QR codes are there to redirect them to a conditional website, 202 00:14:09,148 --> 00:14:12,939 which would give them more information and it's just the exact same. 203 00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:16,621 The only thing is we just couldn't do it cause of the right thing. 204 00:14:16,621 --> 00:14:19,093 So do we do we want to add a recommendation? 205 00:14:19,093 --> 00:14:21,181 We're gonna do this rain or shine, OK? 206 00:14:21,381 --> 00:14:24,273 This is the the the vote we've done. Rain or shine. 207 00:14:24,273 --> 00:14:28,222 It is happening on the 21st. If it's raining, stick your mud boots on, 208 00:14:28,222 --> 00:14:30,947 get the rain gear on. We're doing it. All right, 209 00:14:30,581 --> 00:14:30,821 Right. 210 00:14:30,947 --> 00:14:35,118 well then I'd be looking for a motion to approve this rain or shine event. 211 00:14:35,118 --> 00:14:36,341 I move to approve the. 212 00:14:36,701 --> 00:14:40,232 Historic scavenger hunt on Sunday, September 21st, 213 00:14:40,232 --> 00:14:45,769 2025 from 9:12 PM starting 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM starting at Henry Cuff School on 214 00:14:45,769 --> 00:14:46,461 North End. 215 00:14:47,861 --> 00:14:48,341 2nd. 216 00:14:49,861 --> 00:14:50,701 Are you discussing? 217 00:14:51,621 --> 00:14:55,673 Just want to add, there was a rain date for the the what 218 00:14:52,301 --> 00:14:52,421 All. 219 00:14:54,661 --> 00:14:57,261 Yes, it was. 220 00:14:55,673 --> 00:15:00,861 it's just you may recall like every Saturday for like 3 years was rainy. 221 00:14:58,581 --> 00:15:06,056 I That was one of the 14 stretches. Yeah, I'm sorry. I did forget because I was. 222 00:15:05,821 --> 00:15:09,079 But yes, I I believe, yeah, there there was a rain date. 223 00:15:06,056 --> 00:15:07,901 I was soggy brained. 224 00:15:09,079 --> 00:15:11,821 It's just the rain date got rained out as well. 225 00:15:10,181 --> 00:15:10,461 Yes. 226 00:15:12,101 --> 00:15:17,822 Yeah. So we're going to try the fall. All right. 227 00:15:15,261 --> 00:15:18,901 Good, good, good strategy to go with rain. 228 00:15:17,822 --> 00:15:25,061 So all those in favor of the rain or shine event, Kuter, Aye. 229 00:15:24,741 --> 00:15:25,381 Rugo's eye. 230 00:15:27,141 --> 00:15:30,906 All right. Sorry to rush. We have to start a meeting. 231 00:15:30,906 --> 00:15:35,857 Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All the the Cultural Council does. 232 00:15:35,857 --> 00:15:39,203 These events are really awesome. Thank you. OK, 233 00:15:39,203 --> 00:15:44,781 so quickly we're going to go back to #6, which is the public hearing about PJS. 234 00:15:44,941 --> 00:15:47,233 At Miss Mendon Diners. So just continue it. 235 00:15:47,233 --> 00:15:51,244 It says continue to a later date. I don't even have to read the whole thing. 236 00:15:51,244 --> 00:15:53,640 OK, well then we're going to continue it to a 237 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,598 later date and that's that. Yeah, we'll we'll publish the time that we have 238 00:15:57,598 --> 00:15:59,577 it. They were did not have everything 239 00:15:59,577 --> 00:16:03,484 necessary to have hold this hearing. So we'll continue to a later date and 240 00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:04,421 notify the public. 241 00:16:04,661 --> 00:16:07,581 All right, I love Russian today. 242 00:16:09,021 --> 00:16:11,941 So take a breather. 243 00:16:14,821 --> 00:16:18,594 And talk about donations. So brothers of the brush, 244 00:16:18,594 --> 00:16:24,108 see some gentlemen in the audience. You guys want to come up and talk about 245 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:25,341 the park benches? 246 00:16:26,421 --> 00:16:31,698 Good evening. Good evening. Chair, congratulations. Thank you very much. Mr. 247 00:16:31,698 --> 00:16:35,741 Select Board member. Remote Select Board member greetings. 248 00:16:36,901 --> 00:16:39,858 Well, first off by introducing myself for the 249 00:16:39,858 --> 00:16:45,320 general audience. My name is Tom Pickner. I'm a member of the Brothers of the Brush. 250 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,141 I've been for roughly 2021 years. I currently serve on the Executive Board 251 00:16:50,141 --> 00:16:52,261 as Treasurer of the organization. 252 00:16:53,741 --> 00:16:57,400 Introduce my wingman here this evening. We have Mr. Tom Bellen, 253 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,116 who's been a member of the Brothers of the Brush for, excuse me, 254 00:17:01,116 --> 00:17:05,060 a period of time, three years. OK. He also serves on our Scholarship 255 00:17:05,060 --> 00:17:07,861 Committee as well. And we also have Mr. AJ Burn. 256 00:17:08,141 --> 00:17:13,502 Who's a member of the Executive Board. AJ also is our membership coordinator as 257 00:17:13,502 --> 00:17:18,662 well and also handles a lot of other things that you may not formally have a 258 00:17:18,662 --> 00:17:22,347 title for, but does many things, a lot of many things. 259 00:17:22,347 --> 00:17:23,821 So we're here tonight. 260 00:17:24,421 --> 00:17:29,956 To present a donation to the Town of Mendon on behalf of the Brothers of the 261 00:17:29,956 --> 00:17:35,635 Brush. And I have a letter. Unfortunately, our president was unable to be here 262 00:17:35,635 --> 00:17:40,739 tonight either way. So if I may, I'd like to read a letter here. Yeah, 263 00:17:40,739 --> 00:17:43,901 we'd like to hear. Read that in. OK, great. 264 00:17:45,301 --> 00:17:50,801 Those is to the Men and Select Board, Town Administrator regarding donation for 265 00:17:50,801 --> 00:17:56,300 new tables and benches at Memorial Park. Greetings to the Select Board and Town 266 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:59,394 Administrator, the Menham Brush Association, 267 00:17:59,394 --> 00:18:01,181 AKA Brothers of the Brush. 268 00:18:01,501 --> 00:18:07,278 Would like to present to you the enclosed donation in the sum in the sum of $4906. 269 00:18:07,278 --> 00:18:12,846 64 for the purchase of new tables and benches to be installed at Memorial Park. 270 00:18:12,846 --> 00:18:17,996 The need for these tables and benches was brought to the attention of our 271 00:18:17,996 --> 00:18:20,501 association by a resident of Mendon. 272 00:18:20,821 --> 00:18:25,749 And our membership voted unanimously to support this worthy cause. Additionally, 273 00:18:25,749 --> 00:18:30,494 the Brothers of the Brush are prepared to offer our services toward the labor 274 00:18:30,494 --> 00:18:33,353 aspect of installing these tables and benches. 275 00:18:33,353 --> 00:18:35,421 Just don't make us sweat too much. 276 00:18:35,701 --> 00:18:39,412 Since its founding in 1967, the Manhattan Park Association has 277 00:18:39,412 --> 00:18:42,829 operated under two key principles to support individuals, 278 00:18:42,829 --> 00:18:46,363 families and organizations in Mendon and surrounding towns, 279 00:18:46,363 --> 00:18:50,781 and to improve and promote public spirit and cooperation in our community. 280 00:18:50,981 --> 00:18:56,301 Our 40 plus strong membership consists of individuals dedicated to these principles. 281 00:18:56,301 --> 00:19:01,245 We continually strive to improve and enhance our support for the people in our 282 00:19:01,245 --> 00:19:06,564 community. Warmest regards, Chad Lavasty, Manheim Brush Association President. Well, 283 00:19:06,564 --> 00:19:10,381 that's quite generous of your organization. Can you tell us? 284 00:19:10,661 --> 00:19:14,960 A little bit more about the park benches. You're not talking about the stuff 285 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,589 underneath the gazebo. You're talking about physically installed 286 00:19:18,589 --> 00:19:21,938 benches along the paths. Is that? So as as I understand it, 287 00:19:21,938 --> 00:19:24,897 it's not the benches under the in the pavilion area. 288 00:19:24,897 --> 00:19:28,581 There's apparently a couple of benches that are out in the field. 289 00:19:28,621 --> 00:19:30,941 And that I guess in. 290 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,243 Tough condition. And so these are the tables that we're 291 00:19:36,243 --> 00:19:40,268 talking about replacing. Specifically, as I understand it, 292 00:19:40,268 --> 00:19:45,386 it's two tables that are handicapped accessible and I neglected to bring a 293 00:19:45,386 --> 00:19:47,501 photograph that I was going to. 294 00:19:47,861 --> 00:19:51,900 Show you folks exactly what it is where there's a bench on one side, 295 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,764 it's open on the other, right. The table kind of extends out so a 296 00:19:55,764 --> 00:20:00,213 wheelchair can come underneath, correct? Yep. And then it's also 5 benches, 297 00:20:00,213 --> 00:20:04,661 I believe along with that just benches that would be positioned in various. 298 00:20:04,821 --> 00:20:08,518 Points in the park. Where exactly? I'm not sure. Yeah, 299 00:20:08,518 --> 00:20:12,886 I can kind of take off my brother's hat as a Parks Commissioner. 300 00:20:12,886 --> 00:20:15,910 So Dan and I reviewed the benches yesterday. 301 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:21,421 So they will be identical to the ones at the beach for the metal type benches for 302 00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:23,101 longevity and they'll be. 303 00:20:23,141 --> 00:20:26,239 If you've been up there by the playground area, 304 00:20:26,239 --> 00:20:29,143 those benches are pretty much falling apart, 305 00:20:29,143 --> 00:20:34,047 so they'll be up in there and we're trying to remove the picnic tables that 306 00:20:34,047 --> 00:20:38,564 are again falling apart because they're all wood up in the park area. 307 00:20:38,564 --> 00:20:41,661 We to some extent we were hoping for the parks. 308 00:20:41,901 --> 00:20:46,444 Side of it that the bench, those will be available for the block 309 00:20:46,444 --> 00:20:50,149 party as well. So we're not sure as it's going to be 310 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:55,251 tight. We probably won't have it, but fortunately the the park is used a 311 00:20:55,251 --> 00:21:00,773 lot, you know, as you may probably know, so I sat on those benches outside the 312 00:21:00,773 --> 00:21:01,541 playground. 313 00:21:01,901 --> 00:21:04,810 Yeah. And I think what happened was the 314 00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:09,900 brothers, as you probably know, I mean, I'm, I'm love being a member, 315 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:15,716 but very generous with and so we had a golf tournament that was very successful 316 00:21:15,716 --> 00:21:18,261 for our first one. So and that was. 317 00:21:18,541 --> 00:21:23,109 Part of the discussion at the meeting to kind of see how we did and we did well 318 00:21:23,109 --> 00:21:27,448 enough to be able to provide the benches and you know it's just it came up. 319 00:21:27,448 --> 00:21:31,444 Brothers just said you know let's let's do this and everybody on like 320 00:21:31,444 --> 00:21:35,783 memorializing any of the benches or they're just going to be benches or yes 321 00:21:35,783 --> 00:21:38,181 either way if the brothers don't do it we. 322 00:21:38,181 --> 00:21:45,021 Talked about former brothers, possibly. I know Ellen Barrows is already oralized 323 00:21:45,021 --> 00:21:51,355 at a one of the bleachers. If not, Dan and I talked about looking at maybe 324 00:21:51,355 --> 00:21:56,421 doing kind of lean towards veterans a lot, but it could be. 325 00:21:56,421 --> 00:22:00,572 You know, we can talk more about it, but either way, yes, we'd like to. 326 00:22:00,572 --> 00:22:03,454 I'm glad AJ brought it up. I spoke with Dan Byer, 327 00:22:03,454 --> 00:22:08,008 the Parks Recreation Director. This is, this is something that Parks wants and 328 00:22:08,008 --> 00:22:12,274 needs and will use and is appropriate for a space. So it's not, you know, 329 00:22:12,274 --> 00:22:16,021 a donor directing what we should do. This is something that the. 330 00:22:16,021 --> 00:22:21,841 The town needs and they're going. So administratively we have to make two 331 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:25,616 motions, one to accept the gift and then one to 332 00:22:25,616 --> 00:22:31,594 create an account for it to be placed in and we're not going to be creating 333 00:22:31,594 --> 00:22:32,301 separate. 334 00:22:32,501 --> 00:22:35,399 Accounts, correct. I I spoke with accounting and I said can 335 00:22:35,399 --> 00:22:39,360 we create just a Jeff Parks gift fund so we don't have to do this every time when 336 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,127 it something comes in. And they said no, they want because this is a specific 337 00:22:43,127 --> 00:22:45,446 donation, they want an account specific to that 338 00:22:45,446 --> 00:22:47,571 donation. So that's more work on their end, 339 00:22:47,571 --> 00:22:50,662 but they're the one doing it and they're the one suggesting it. 340 00:22:50,662 --> 00:22:51,821 So it's it's too motion. 341 00:22:52,181 --> 00:22:53,021 Very specific. 342 00:22:54,461 --> 00:22:57,563 All right, so I'd be looking for that first motion 343 00:22:57,563 --> 00:23:01,212 to accept them. Thanks. I move to accept the funds from the 344 00:23:01,212 --> 00:23:04,861 Brothers of the Brush for the installation of park benches. 345 00:23:05,901 --> 00:23:06,461 2nd. 346 00:23:06,541 --> 00:23:09,981 Any discussion? 347 00:23:11,261 --> 00:23:18,501 Yeah. Thank you for your generosity. Sure. All right. All those in favor, Kuter. Aye. 348 00:23:18,021 --> 00:23:19,021 Brugos eye. 349 00:23:19,501 --> 00:23:19,661 OK. 350 00:23:20,981 --> 00:23:24,429 Excellent. And then the second motion I'd be looking 351 00:23:24,429 --> 00:23:29,762 for to create a gift account to hold and expend the funds that were just accepted 352 00:23:29,762 --> 00:23:34,315 from the Brothers Department. I move to create a gift account to hold 353 00:23:34,315 --> 00:23:35,941 and expend the funds for. 354 00:23:36,701 --> 00:23:36,901 2nd. 355 00:23:39,141 --> 00:23:41,061 Any discussion? 356 00:23:42,501 --> 00:23:46,221 All those in favor, Kuter aye. 357 00:23:45,781 --> 00:23:46,941 Rugose I. 358 00:23:47,341 --> 00:23:51,819 All right. Motion passes. Gentlemen, thank you very much. 359 00:23:51,819 --> 00:23:57,918 We really appreciate it. As always, your organization does a lot for our town. 360 00:23:57,918 --> 00:24:02,551 Thank you so much. This is gonna go to this guy right here. 361 00:24:02,551 --> 00:24:05,021 Thank you for coming. Thank you. 362 00:24:05,301 --> 00:24:09,667 Yeah. Do you guys want to do a picture? Oh, yeah, 363 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:16,477 we should do a picture for the brothers. Yeah. We need a picture. Come on up. 364 00:24:16,477 --> 00:24:21,541 Hold on, I'll get on my fancy shirt. I brought a picture. 365 00:24:23,781 --> 00:24:28,662 We'll just stand up in a row here, guys in the middle. 366 00:24:28,662 --> 00:24:31,501 Katie will be out in the middle. 367 00:24:35,221 --> 00:24:36,821 There's the same time. 368 00:24:40,181 --> 00:24:48,861 That's my face. Thank you. OK, yeah, 1/2. 369 00:24:51,941 --> 00:24:58,901 All right. Thank you. Awesome. Great. All right. Thanks. Thanks. 370 00:25:01,261 --> 00:25:05,534 Yeah, how much is that 153 by 10s and 67 by 371 00:25:05,534 --> 00:25:10,971 five sizes. Yeah, we're only doing ornaments this year. 372 00:25:10,971 --> 00:25:13,981 Sorry. Thanks, guys. Thank you. 373 00:25:16,501 --> 00:25:22,141 All right. And so um. 374 00:25:19,181 --> 00:25:19,381 Bye. 375 00:25:25,141 --> 00:25:29,246 I'm just going to pause for a minute to ask Elena how the sound has been this 376 00:25:29,246 --> 00:25:32,981 meeting because we're remote and we want to make sure you can hear us. 377 00:25:33,341 --> 00:25:39,071 Thank you. It's been great so far, so much, much clearer from the beginning. 378 00:25:34,421 --> 00:25:34,581 8. 379 00:25:35,701 --> 00:25:35,981 Awesome. 380 00:25:39,071 --> 00:25:43,981 So thank you for checking, although I would have spoken up again. 381 00:25:40,941 --> 00:25:45,621 All right. Thank you very much. All right. So another donation. 382 00:25:45,381 --> 00:25:47,381 Thank you. Thank you for checking. 383 00:25:48,541 --> 00:25:48,701 Um. 384 00:25:50,501 --> 00:25:57,120 So we have an anonymous donor that has donated a gently used Blackstone Grill to 385 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:03,167 the fire department so that they can get their cooking on and outside the 386 00:26:03,167 --> 00:26:05,781 department there during on-call. 387 00:26:06,261 --> 00:26:09,067 Chief, you're here. Do you want to say anything? 388 00:26:09,067 --> 00:26:13,704 This came through the the town minister's office and it was just a donation that 389 00:26:13,704 --> 00:26:18,169 they're looking and they're probably going to use it for the different events 390 00:26:18,169 --> 00:26:21,661 we do in the open house, public safety type things. Awesome. 391 00:26:22,021 --> 00:26:24,300 And once again, checked with the department. 392 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:28,403 It's not like a milk gel for them, right? It's something that they want and use. 393 00:26:28,403 --> 00:26:32,505 So yeah, the resident have used it once, said the fire department can get better 394 00:26:32,505 --> 00:26:34,784 use out of it and want it to stay anonymous. 395 00:26:34,784 --> 00:26:38,329 So I I just be looking for a motion to accept the anonymous donation. 396 00:26:38,329 --> 00:26:41,621 I move to accept the donation of a gently used Blackstone grill. 397 00:26:44,861 --> 00:26:45,061 2nd. 398 00:26:46,661 --> 00:26:47,861 Any discussion? 399 00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:51,580 As always, our generous residents stepping up to 400 00:26:51,580 --> 00:26:55,926 help out. So that's pretty awesome. All right, all those in favor? Cooter. 401 00:26:55,926 --> 00:26:56,621 Aye, Chanel. 402 00:26:57,941 --> 00:26:59,221 Brugo's eye. 403 00:26:59,941 --> 00:27:06,275 All right. Thank you very much. Anonymous Blackstone Grill donor. 404 00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:11,457 All right. So #9 special town meeting considerations. 405 00:27:11,457 --> 00:27:15,679 Yeah. So we had talked about the floodplain 406 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:18,941 bylaw not being in its particular. 407 00:27:19,501 --> 00:27:19,701 Um. 408 00:27:20,821 --> 00:27:26,874 That the specifications didn't comport with FEMA requirements. 409 00:27:26,874 --> 00:27:32,061 There's one person in town who is under this program. 410 00:27:33,461 --> 00:27:37,044 Town planner has without success yet tried to reach out to this person to see 411 00:27:37,044 --> 00:27:40,443 when their renewal date break because if their renewal dates in February, 412 00:27:40,443 --> 00:27:43,842 it doesn't matter whether we pass it in. So we're trying to get some more 413 00:27:43,842 --> 00:27:47,195 information on this individual before we consider a special town meeting 414 00:27:47,195 --> 00:27:49,261 specifically for a revised home plain model. 415 00:27:49,301 --> 00:27:52,125 So working on it. It'll probably be next meeting. 416 00:27:52,125 --> 00:27:55,061 We're trying to reach out to the point. OK. Thanks. 417 00:27:58,461 --> 00:28:06,514 All right. And the Zoning Bylaw Review. So you received a a list of proposed by 418 00:28:06,514 --> 00:28:10,741 Zoning Bylaw Review changes earlier today. 419 00:28:11,901 --> 00:28:12,061 Um. 420 00:28:14,821 --> 00:28:17,261 I'm reading through the notes there. 421 00:28:18,821 --> 00:28:23,305 So we should wait until the next meeting before we talk about all this or we 422 00:28:23,305 --> 00:28:26,390 should talk about it. This is certainly just an FYI. 423 00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:30,059 The point was just to say, here's what the Zoning Bylaw Review 424 00:28:30,059 --> 00:28:33,901 Committee is on certain things. So I'm sharing on the screen now. 425 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:42,250 A lot of it is grammar changes, some some clarifying and textual changes, 426 00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:49,519 the removing what we think is a unenforceable and unallowable restriction 427 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,581 on marijuana signage. 428 00:28:51,861 --> 00:28:57,722 ADU bylaw we passed at the 2024 Fall Town Meeting, but we got, like I said, 429 00:28:57,722 --> 00:29:01,964 a 17 page response from the Attorney General's office. 430 00:29:01,964 --> 00:29:07,362 So the Town Planner is working with Town Council now to rectify that. 431 00:29:07,362 --> 00:29:08,981 That's the large one. 432 00:29:09,061 --> 00:29:14,898 And then the number 10 and #11 new proposed zoning bylaw to allow by special 433 00:29:14,898 --> 00:29:20,431 permit a limited number of common driveways with specific conditions and 434 00:29:20,431 --> 00:29:25,585 new proposed zoning bylaw flag lots which are lots with reduced Rd. 435 00:29:25,585 --> 00:29:27,101 frontage and larger. 436 00:29:27,221 --> 00:29:30,149 Area behind it looks like flagpole with a flag on it, 437 00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:32,698 subject to special permit specific conditions. 438 00:29:32,698 --> 00:29:36,439 So those are two of the two of the new ones that are on here. Again, 439 00:29:36,439 --> 00:29:40,830 this has been circulated to to the Select Board and before the Fall Town Meeting 440 00:29:40,830 --> 00:29:43,433 warrant is closed and these are placed on them, 441 00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,981 we'll have greater discussions with the board. 442 00:29:46,341 --> 00:29:50,346 And then there's also kind of an FYI of stuff that they're also working on, 443 00:29:50,346 --> 00:29:54,457 stuff about photovoltaic facilities, moving definitions, other small changes, 444 00:29:54,457 --> 00:29:57,039 and then organizational changes to the document. 445 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:00,938 There wasn't a meeting yesterday, so I was planning on having the planner 446 00:30:00,938 --> 00:30:05,101 here today to talk about what happened yesterday, but they didn't have a form. 447 00:30:05,301 --> 00:30:10,043 So we'll have this, we'll have a update from the Zoning Bylaw 448 00:30:10,043 --> 00:30:14,937 Review Committee in in advance of Fall Town meeting. All right. 449 00:30:14,937 --> 00:30:20,061 Thank you for that update. All right. So building inspection fees. 450 00:30:20,501 --> 00:30:27,217 So you also would have received a memo from the Town Administrator as well as a 451 00:30:27,217 --> 00:30:32,506 table of proposed fees that listed off both new existing fees, 452 00:30:32,506 --> 00:30:38,634 new fees and fee schedules from towns in our area so that you could do a 453 00:30:38,634 --> 00:30:40,061 comparison there. 454 00:30:40,741 --> 00:30:44,720 And so I see that the Building Commissioner is online. John, 455 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,134 do you want to talk about these proposed fees and why we think it's a good idea to 456 00:30:50,134 --> 00:30:52,221 make these changes for our town? 457 00:30:51,781 --> 00:30:55,049 Yes, I would. Thank you. You know, as the memo says, 458 00:30:55,049 --> 00:30:58,255 I've I've had a chance to review the fees recently. 459 00:30:58,255 --> 00:31:03,249 The last time the building department fee, building permit fees were updated was 460 00:31:03,249 --> 00:31:07,935 2013. Plumbing and gas, plumbing, gas and electrical fees were last updated 461 00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:08,181 and. 462 00:31:08,261 --> 00:31:12,127 2014, you know, with the building department being a 463 00:31:12,127 --> 00:31:16,504 fee-based department, of course the fees are meant to cover 464 00:31:16,504 --> 00:31:20,370 inspector salaries, direct costs or direct expenses, 465 00:31:20,370 --> 00:31:23,141 indirect expenses, et cetera, the the. 466 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:27,426 The adjustments here are pretty basic on the building permit fees. 467 00:31:27,426 --> 00:31:32,255 The major one is just moving the fee for a commercial occupancy permit into the 468 00:31:32,255 --> 00:31:37,266 building permit fee so that it's paid up front instead of at the end of a project. 469 00:31:37,266 --> 00:31:40,828 It just makes it better for all involved. Along with that, 470 00:31:40,828 --> 00:31:43,061 it's what I would consider a nominal. 471 00:31:43,141 --> 00:31:48,187 Increase of roughly a dollar per thousand of the cost of construction across the 472 00:31:48,187 --> 00:31:53,171 board, plumbing, gas and wiring fees. The the structure didn't make a whole lot 473 00:31:53,171 --> 00:31:58,341 of sense. We had a lot of or not a lot, but we had certain types of projects that. 474 00:31:58,461 --> 00:32:03,491 Didn't even fall into a category such as, you know, on electrical solar, 475 00:32:03,491 --> 00:32:08,314 which is probably our largest number of permits in building and iron. 476 00:32:08,314 --> 00:32:11,552 So without getting into too much nitty-gritty, 477 00:32:11,552 --> 00:32:15,341 I've given you the current fee schedule, the proposed. 478 00:32:15,981 --> 00:32:21,336 Increases and a list of towns to compare it to and I'm here for any, you know, 479 00:32:21,336 --> 00:32:23,301 try and answer any questions. 480 00:32:25,341 --> 00:32:29,923 Yeah, I mean, so from my point of view, this all looked pretty valid. 481 00:32:29,923 --> 00:32:34,440 Nothing really jumped out at me is extraordinary or and and I really 482 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,480 appreciate the the comparison with the other towns that was bottom line very 483 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,621 helpful. So I I'd open it up to the board like. 484 00:32:42,741 --> 00:32:47,012 Is is there anything different you'd like to see in this fee schedule? 485 00:32:47,012 --> 00:32:50,560 Is it confusing? Do you understand where John's going with 486 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,101 all this? 487 00:32:53,821 --> 00:32:57,487 Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's it's relatively clear and 488 00:32:57,487 --> 00:33:01,792 the comparison makes it clear that you know we we have to be in line with 489 00:33:01,792 --> 00:33:04,701 surrounding towns and gets us there a little bit. 490 00:33:05,461 --> 00:33:09,998 I want to just reiterate a point that the Building Commissioner made that you know 491 00:33:09,998 --> 00:33:12,950 the the permit fees are a large local receipt for us, 492 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:16,886 but also our building inspectors are paid not directly from these fees, 493 00:33:16,886 --> 00:33:20,821 but paid out of the general fund which is then supported by these fees. 494 00:33:21,221 --> 00:33:23,810 And having not changed them in over a decade, 495 00:33:23,810 --> 00:33:27,861 the purchasing power for us of those fees has been drastically reduced. 496 00:33:28,821 --> 00:33:32,141 Yeah, get getting in line without extraordinary 497 00:33:32,141 --> 00:33:36,982 measures. I mean, you know, most of these are not going up a terrible 498 00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:41,201 amount. Or if they are going up, they're going up, you know, 499 00:33:41,201 --> 00:33:43,621 because they're so archaically old. 500 00:33:43,861 --> 00:33:49,117 So it all seems very reasonable. This is got a big impact as a whole, 501 00:33:49,117 --> 00:33:52,571 right? But on the individual should be pretty 502 00:33:52,571 --> 00:33:53,021 minor. 503 00:33:54,341 --> 00:33:55,141 Uh, Elena. 504 00:33:56,581 --> 00:33:59,607 Sorry, I just also glad to see this being 505 00:33:57,701 --> 00:33:58,141 Exit. 506 00:33:59,607 --> 00:34:05,585 addressed and I don't know if I missed it, but what is a more appropriate schedule 507 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:10,340 for us to revisit these fees? Cause clearly 11 years is too long. 508 00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:14,301 Did you say like, did you have advice about how often? 509 00:34:14,981 --> 00:34:17,541 Uh, typically these would be addressed. 510 00:34:17,781 --> 00:34:22,621 I I haven't really thought about that. I would say it should be looked at every 511 00:34:22,621 --> 00:34:27,218 two to three years. In some sense, you know there is a an inherent increase 512 00:34:27,218 --> 00:34:31,936 because when the cost of construction which some permit fees are based off of 513 00:34:31,936 --> 00:34:32,541 increases. 514 00:34:32,901 --> 00:34:36,232 The, you know, the related permit fee does increase. 515 00:34:36,232 --> 00:34:41,259 But on some of them we had something so archaic that you know a plumbing or I'm 516 00:34:37,221 --> 00:34:37,741 Mhm. 517 00:34:41,259 --> 00:34:44,275 sorry, a gas inspection that required 2 permits 518 00:34:44,275 --> 00:34:48,296 where we pay our inspector $40 per inspection was a $48 permit. 519 00:34:48,296 --> 00:34:50,621 So that clearly didn't make sense so. 520 00:34:50,821 --> 00:34:54,315 I I would, I mean, I think I should keep an eye on it on an 521 00:34:51,781 --> 00:34:52,101 Thank you. 522 00:34:54,315 --> 00:34:58,391 ongoing basis, but you know, every two to three years to just revisit 523 00:34:55,101 --> 00:34:55,661 Mhm. 524 00:34:58,141 --> 00:34:58,301 Mm. 525 00:34:58,391 --> 00:35:02,875 and you know, make minor adjustments. I don't think there would be any major 526 00:35:02,875 --> 00:35:03,981 adjustments needed. 527 00:35:03,541 --> 00:35:08,156 Right. Yeah, I think, yeah, that does seem like a a better strategy 528 00:35:08,156 --> 00:35:11,141 to have it be percentage versus a flat fee. 529 00:35:12,741 --> 00:35:14,701 Great. Thank you. 530 00:35:12,861 --> 00:35:13,541 And. 531 00:35:13,221 --> 00:35:16,150 Yeah, with the drastic changes in supply costs 532 00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:19,141 and whatnot over the last few years especially. 533 00:35:20,061 --> 00:35:25,016 And I was just gonna add it's a it's a typical structure that most towns use 534 00:35:25,016 --> 00:35:30,356 some some types of work is a flat fee and other is you know a percentage of of the 535 00:35:30,356 --> 00:35:35,181 job cost and it's I think we're you know all towns are using both methods. 536 00:35:35,461 --> 00:35:38,660 But I I think, I think this really tightens it up to 537 00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:43,126 what we really should be doing. You know, considering we don't want to do 538 00:35:43,126 --> 00:35:45,781 necessarily what every other town is doing, 539 00:35:45,781 --> 00:35:49,946 but we we want to take some of that into consideration. But I think, 540 00:35:49,946 --> 00:35:52,661 I think this is a a very solid fee schedule. 541 00:35:53,461 --> 00:35:57,073 And John, this simplifies the electrical permits 542 00:35:57,073 --> 00:35:58,621 too, is that correct? 543 00:35:59,421 --> 00:36:02,300 Yes, drastically to the extent that we can now 544 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:06,833 put that into our software system. So when somebody applies for a permit, 545 00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:10,998 it will generate the fee, whereas in the for the past forever since 546 00:36:10,998 --> 00:36:15,101 our online permit came in or even before that one was paper-based. 547 00:36:16,221 --> 00:36:22,571 We have to somehow try and correlate the the ambiguous fee schedule with the scope 548 00:36:22,571 --> 00:36:28,844 of work, which now we can just, you know, we can set up in the viewpoint software 549 00:36:28,844 --> 00:36:30,221 and when somebody. 550 00:36:30,581 --> 00:36:33,882 Applies for a certain, whether it's a solar permit or anything 551 00:36:33,882 --> 00:36:37,340 else or a swimming pool, the fee will be generated and it's going 552 00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:40,012 to save time. So we don't have to wait for the the 553 00:36:40,012 --> 00:36:43,784 reaction of of permits applied for. Then the wire inspector logs in and 554 00:36:43,784 --> 00:36:46,614 reviews it, sets the fee and then it goes back to the 555 00:36:46,614 --> 00:36:47,661 contractor. So it's. 556 00:36:48,461 --> 00:36:51,261 It's definitely going to expedite things and make things more convenient. 557 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:49,741 Yeah. 558 00:36:51,661 --> 00:36:55,468 Certainly and it it allows folks to know the cost before it. 559 00:36:55,468 --> 00:37:00,273 It took that extra level of staff work and it wasn't clear to the applicant. 560 00:37:00,273 --> 00:37:05,016 So the simplification of the fees eliminates both of those like operational 561 00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:06,701 Lex and that's a slim seat. 562 00:37:08,781 --> 00:37:13,301 Network. That's great. OK, so. 563 00:37:15,501 --> 00:37:20,811 Think there are no more questions and there's really no opposition to the 564 00:37:20,811 --> 00:37:24,901 proposed fees by the admin or the board. I'd be looking. 565 00:37:26,341 --> 00:37:29,761 To get a motion to approve, I want to make sure this is covered. 566 00:37:29,761 --> 00:37:33,865 This was in the proposal as well that permit fees are waived by select boards 567 00:37:33,865 --> 00:37:37,233 for all by the select board for all municipal owned properties. 568 00:37:37,233 --> 00:37:41,652 So that happened on a case by case basis. So this proposal is saying the default is 569 00:37:41,652 --> 00:37:44,072 for the. So in those cases we would waive the 570 00:37:44,072 --> 00:37:45,861 permit fee. We would still end up. 571 00:37:46,061 --> 00:37:49,789 Paying our inspectors, but it you know it's one pocket versus 572 00:37:49,789 --> 00:37:53,817 the other, right? We're still, we're still submitting the permits. 573 00:37:53,817 --> 00:37:57,305 So there are the permits and we're paying the inspectors, 574 00:37:57,305 --> 00:38:00,491 but we're not taking money out of one pocket, right? 575 00:38:00,491 --> 00:38:05,301 Because when we have a contractor do it, if we require them to pull the permit. 576 00:38:05,341 --> 00:38:08,571 In half the case, they mark that up and then we end up 577 00:38:08,571 --> 00:38:13,561 paying more for a thing where we can just waive it all together, right? Makes sense. 578 00:38:13,561 --> 00:38:18,200 So this is in our procurement documents right now saying fees have been waived 579 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,781 for blah blah blah blah blah, but it takes individual votes. 580 00:38:22,461 --> 00:38:23,741 Uh, this would make it. 581 00:38:27,101 --> 00:38:31,537 All right. I move to accept the fee schedule as 582 00:38:31,537 --> 00:38:35,141 presented by the Building Commissioner. 583 00:38:37,141 --> 00:38:37,341 2nd. 584 00:38:38,421 --> 00:38:39,941 Any discussion? 585 00:38:42,381 --> 00:38:45,340 Don, appreciate all the effort that you put 586 00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:47,021 into this. Thank you. Um. 587 00:38:45,901 --> 00:38:50,726 If I can just ask for clarification, that would be in effect immediately 588 00:38:50,501 --> 00:38:50,741 Yeah. 589 00:38:50,726 --> 00:38:56,080 because we were hoping to do this in June for July 1st to go into effect on July 590 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,781 1st, but being July 16th or 15th, whatever it is today, 591 00:38:59,781 --> 00:39:01,301 would that be the case? 592 00:39:00,821 --> 00:39:04,303 Do we have to change our motion? All right. 593 00:39:04,303 --> 00:39:10,158 So then I'm going to ask you to amend the motion. Yeah, amend the motion. 594 00:39:10,158 --> 00:39:16,805 So I move to approve the schedule of fees as presented by the Building Commissioner 595 00:39:16,805 --> 00:39:18,941 effective date immediately. 596 00:39:21,301 --> 00:39:21,501 2nd. 597 00:39:22,701 --> 00:39:25,581 Thank you. All right. Any discussion? 598 00:39:26,541 --> 00:39:32,021 Right. Seeing as there's none. All those in favor, Kuter. Aye. 599 00:39:31,981 --> 00:39:32,741 Brugos eye. 600 00:39:33,101 --> 00:39:37,832 All right. So the motion passes, John. Those fees go into effect immediately. 601 00:39:37,832 --> 00:39:42,501 And so you can go ahead and make your updates. Thank you so much. Thank you. 602 00:39:40,421 --> 00:39:42,021 Thanks. Thank you all. 603 00:39:45,061 --> 00:39:46,181 All right. 604 00:39:47,181 --> 00:39:47,261 Um. 605 00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:53,381 Is a fire fire before the appointments? Yeah. 606 00:39:57,821 --> 00:40:01,501 What number is that? Um. 607 00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:04,261 Okay, number 16. 608 00:40:06,061 --> 00:40:09,291 On call fire credit rates. Yeah, sorry Sir, 609 00:40:09,291 --> 00:40:12,301 you got got buried in a very long agenda. 610 00:40:14,301 --> 00:40:18,062 So we're going to talk. We're going to skip forward because Chief 611 00:40:18,062 --> 00:40:22,335 is here and we don't want to keep him waiting to #16 to talk about on-call 612 00:40:22,335 --> 00:40:25,354 firefighter rates. Base Banwin, Fire Chief. Welcome. 613 00:40:25,354 --> 00:40:28,944 After the last meeting, there was some questions regarding the 614 00:40:28,944 --> 00:40:29,741 on-call rates. 615 00:40:30,621 --> 00:40:34,856 Did a little digging and found that they haven't been receiving the call up 616 00:40:34,856 --> 00:40:37,921 increases that everyone else in town has been getting. 617 00:40:37,921 --> 00:40:41,821 So Jeremy and I got together and figured out where they should be at. 618 00:40:42,861 --> 00:40:47,292 And then streamline the promotional part of it. They were, 619 00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:53,299 they're kind of all over the place with the percentage increases for each rank. 620 00:40:53,299 --> 00:40:59,381 So there's the current proposal and I'm just going to say that this will get us. 621 00:40:59,581 --> 00:41:05,665 To the bottom of the pay scale still for the area towns for the on call. 622 00:41:05,665 --> 00:41:07,581 So this will just be a. 623 00:41:08,301 --> 00:41:11,803 For now, I'd still be looking for the bigger 624 00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:17,872 market adjustment in the future to get them where they future are you looking 625 00:41:17,872 --> 00:41:23,241 for? What's your time frame? I believe when the next fiscal year the 626 00:41:23,241 --> 00:41:28,221 compensation study to match what everyone else receives fiscal. 627 00:41:28,301 --> 00:41:31,759 Make sure we're all on the same page. Yeah, so, 628 00:41:31,759 --> 00:41:37,809 so Select Board member Goddard was pretty adamant about ensuring we knew what we're 629 00:41:37,809 --> 00:41:43,788 talking about and the town admin had made mention that that report is wrapping up. 630 00:41:43,788 --> 00:41:47,821 So we should have that meeting on the 23rd to finalize. 631 00:41:47,821 --> 00:41:52,570 Imminently, which means I hope to be talking about 632 00:41:52,570 --> 00:41:59,552 this in September. So OK, great. So we'd be looking to then do these catch 633 00:41:59,552 --> 00:42:04,021 up rates as noted here and you're you're gonna. 634 00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:08,741 Keep the recruit rate at 15. Yes, the recruits are non-trained firefighters. 635 00:42:08,741 --> 00:42:13,438 They're just they're learning the job. Once they become certified firefighters, 636 00:42:13,438 --> 00:42:17,664 they will get the bump to the. All right, so they're gonna get that $3. 637 00:42:17,664 --> 00:42:21,421 81 bump once they complete their training, their certification. 638 00:42:21,741 --> 00:42:25,565 And this keeps the stipends. So we talked about during the chief's 639 00:42:25,565 --> 00:42:30,245 proposal at the last meeting to eliminate the stipends and bring the hourly rates 640 00:42:30,245 --> 00:42:34,068 up to much greater than this. So this because this is just a COLO, 641 00:42:34,068 --> 00:42:37,036 so this this applies the 20 as it says in the memo, 642 00:42:37,036 --> 00:42:39,261 the last one they received was July 21. 643 00:42:40,381 --> 00:42:44,571 So this applies the colas that other town employees have received and then creates 644 00:42:44,571 --> 00:42:46,944 this 10%. It applies that the firefighter then 645 00:42:46,944 --> 00:42:50,730 creates this 10% spread between the ranks and then it keeps their stipend. 646 00:42:50,730 --> 00:42:54,567 So as we talk about the 27 budget, this is all kind of up for up for debate 647 00:42:54,567 --> 00:42:57,293 at that point, removal of the stipends and the market 648 00:42:57,293 --> 00:42:59,817 adjustment, but I want to be very clear that that 649 00:42:59,817 --> 00:43:00,221 stipend. 650 00:43:00,341 --> 00:43:00,781 This. 651 00:43:01,661 --> 00:43:04,341 All right. And is this uh? 652 00:43:05,581 --> 00:43:08,358 Clear enough for your on-call fire person. Like, 653 00:43:08,358 --> 00:43:12,833 do they understand what's going on here? Yes. Yeah, they understand that it's. 654 00:43:12,833 --> 00:43:16,913 I don't want to ask if they're OK because I'm sure they wouldn't be OK. 655 00:43:16,913 --> 00:43:20,312 They just don't want to say that. So that's fine. I get it. 656 00:43:20,312 --> 00:43:24,221 But they understand. Yeah. OK. None of them are there for the money. 657 00:43:24,221 --> 00:43:27,194 I I don't think anybody does the civil job. 658 00:43:27,194 --> 00:43:32,397 It's just getting the rate in a better place will help keep the people we do 659 00:43:32,397 --> 00:43:38,005 have, keep them. And I want to reiterate, you said this just gets us to the bottom 660 00:43:38,005 --> 00:43:41,788 of the pay scale. We really need to go up higher to eat 661 00:43:41,788 --> 00:43:42,261 talent. 662 00:43:42,701 --> 00:43:47,231 And I just want to point out that the talent that we're talking about here 663 00:43:47,231 --> 00:43:51,035 isn't just firefighters, but you have to bring in lieutenants, 664 00:43:51,035 --> 00:43:54,598 captains and deputy chiefs at a time to cover these spots. 665 00:43:54,598 --> 00:43:58,221 We just don't have enough staff, right? So this isn't just. 666 00:43:58,581 --> 00:44:02,344 Just the operations. This is the whole right leadership and 667 00:44:02,344 --> 00:44:04,978 OPS. We currently do not have any on call 668 00:44:04,978 --> 00:44:08,114 Lieutenants. The three Lieutenants we have are on 669 00:44:08,114 --> 00:44:11,500 career. OK, so that's just there for the future there 670 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:13,381 for the future and it happens. 671 00:44:13,661 --> 00:44:19,818 And you were on call deputy chief before? I was on call deputy chief for three 672 00:44:19,818 --> 00:44:23,637 years, two or three years before I became chief. 673 00:44:23,637 --> 00:44:28,781 So we usually get some pretty good talent from that poll. We try. 674 00:44:29,141 --> 00:44:29,261 Um. 675 00:44:31,941 --> 00:44:34,581 Does the board have any discussion on this? 676 00:44:35,901 --> 00:44:38,894 No, I think we also covered it last time just 677 00:44:38,894 --> 00:44:41,301 to make sure that going forward this. 678 00:44:42,461 --> 00:44:45,778 Doesn't slip again. Two points on that definitely won't. 679 00:44:45,778 --> 00:44:50,025 He's the department now. And 2nd, I I'm never in a position to speak for 680 00:44:50,025 --> 00:44:53,923 another select board member, but Select Board Morali called me and 681 00:44:53,923 --> 00:44:57,821 expressed his desire that we get these rates up and do it quickly. 682 00:44:57,821 --> 00:45:00,498 So he's not here to vote tonight, but he was, 683 00:45:00,498 --> 00:45:02,301 I can't say about his specific. 684 00:45:02,381 --> 00:45:06,794 Civics on these specific rates, but his desire was to to have this done 685 00:45:06,794 --> 00:45:10,470 and done quickly. I mean, it's only fair and these would be 686 00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:14,331 retroactive to preempt the question that John asked the board. 687 00:45:14,331 --> 00:45:17,701 These will be retroactive to July 1st, one pay period. 688 00:45:18,541 --> 00:45:23,395 And they get paid monthly. So we wouldn't even have to really do 689 00:45:23,395 --> 00:45:27,876 that. All right. Well, I think it's an easy enough thing to 690 00:45:27,876 --> 00:45:31,909 understand. So I don't have any additional questions. 691 00:45:31,909 --> 00:45:34,821 I'd be looking for a motion to approve. 692 00:45:36,781 --> 00:45:41,685 I move to approve the on call firefighter rates as presented by the Chief and the 693 00:45:41,685 --> 00:45:42,821 Town Administrator. 694 00:45:43,781 --> 00:45:44,061 2nd. 695 00:45:44,941 --> 00:45:47,981 Right. Any discussion? 696 00:45:49,421 --> 00:45:54,861 So seeing there's no discussion. All those in favor Hooter. Aye. 697 00:45:55,741 --> 00:45:56,421 Rugose I. 698 00:45:56,461 --> 00:45:56,581 OK. 699 00:45:57,741 --> 00:46:00,224 So the motion's approved. Thank you so much, Chief. 700 00:46:00,224 --> 00:46:02,181 I waiting to get to you a little earlier. 701 00:46:03,741 --> 00:46:07,581 Have a great night. 702 00:46:10,701 --> 00:46:17,955 All right, I'm going to run through. I'm going to jump back to 12 and we're 703 00:46:17,955 --> 00:46:24,541 going to run through some reappointments here. And so there's a lot. 704 00:46:25,901 --> 00:46:31,931 And they're all gonna be different, so we're gonna have to go through each 705 00:46:31,931 --> 00:46:33,941 one. So the first one is. 706 00:46:35,741 --> 00:46:39,370 I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna state the first one and then 707 00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:44,000 Brendan's gonna read the motion, then Elena's gonna 2nd and then we'll go 708 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,881 through it, I guess like that. All right. So we're looking to reappoint Peter 709 00:46:48,881 --> 00:46:53,949 Denton to the Agricultural Commission for a three-year term to expire June 30th, 710 00:46:53,949 --> 00:46:54,261 2028. 711 00:46:56,301 --> 00:47:01,242 I move to reappoint Peter Dent to the Agricultural Commission for a two year 712 00:47:01,242 --> 00:47:05,477 term to expire June 30th, 2028. three-year term. three-year term. 713 00:47:05,477 --> 00:47:08,941 It says two, but it's three. I should think about it. 714 00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:10,261 2nd. 715 00:47:11,221 --> 00:47:17,341 Discussion. All those in favor Kuter. Aye, aye. 716 00:47:17,261 --> 00:47:18,341 Brugos eye. 717 00:47:20,461 --> 00:47:24,983 Great. So that passes. The second one would be to appoint Lisa 718 00:47:24,983 --> 00:47:29,575 Vandervalk and Kristina Want. Is that Want or Wante Want to the 719 00:47:29,575 --> 00:47:34,384 Agricultural Commission? I moved to appoint Lisa Vandervalk to the 720 00:47:34,384 --> 00:47:39,981 Agricultural Commission for a three-year term to expire June 30, 2028 ending. 721 00:47:40,221 --> 00:47:41,901 Uh, the completely like UF extreme. 722 00:47:43,181 --> 00:47:47,981 Thank you. Discussion. 723 00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:44,061 2nd. 724 00:47:49,501 --> 00:47:54,621 All those in favor, Hooter aye. 725 00:47:53,461 --> 00:47:54,021 Brugos eye. 726 00:47:56,141 --> 00:48:01,333 I move to appoint Kristina want to the Agricultural Commission for a two year 727 00:48:01,333 --> 00:48:04,861 term to expire June 30th, 2027 pending issue of the. 728 00:48:05,221 --> 00:48:05,421 2nd. 729 00:48:06,861 --> 00:48:07,661 Discussion. 730 00:48:09,421 --> 00:48:13,421 All those in favor, Kuter Aye. 731 00:48:13,501 --> 00:48:14,421 There goes I. 732 00:48:15,541 --> 00:48:20,111 Thank you, Kristina and Lisa. I just want to be clear on these motions. 733 00:48:20,111 --> 00:48:24,680 These are the Select Board had posted these vacancies for for all these 734 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,805 commissions for expiring terms. So we're going some of these are 735 00:48:28,805 --> 00:48:31,661 reappointments for folks who are interested. 736 00:48:31,781 --> 00:48:34,921 But the Agriculture Commission, those are two new ones in terms of Select 737 00:48:34,921 --> 00:48:37,297 Board goal to reinvigorate the Agricultural Commission. 738 00:48:37,297 --> 00:48:40,734 So now we have a we have a quorum there and we'll be reaching out to those folks 739 00:48:40,734 --> 00:48:44,128 shortly to to get that committee back, back up and running. Yeah, that's great. 740 00:48:44,128 --> 00:48:45,061 That's gonna be great. 741 00:48:46,101 --> 00:48:48,741 I didn't smile in ear to ear. All right. 742 00:48:48,821 --> 00:48:50,301 All right. Um. 743 00:48:51,301 --> 00:48:57,399 So we need to reappoint James Thash Capital Planning to the Capital Planning 744 00:48:57,399 --> 00:49:02,229 Committee. That was a very shy, read it directly. All right, 745 00:49:02,229 --> 00:49:08,643 I I move to reappoint James Thash to the Capital Planning Committee for it to be 746 00:49:08,643 --> 00:49:10,781 returned to expire on June. 747 00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:11,701 Maybe. 748 00:49:12,701 --> 00:49:12,901 2nd. 749 00:49:14,101 --> 00:49:14,781 Discussion. 750 00:49:16,341 --> 00:49:20,301 All those in favor, Kuter. Aye. 751 00:49:19,221 --> 00:49:20,621 Rucus I. 752 00:49:21,181 --> 00:49:25,691 Thank you, James. And so now we need to reappoint Michael 753 00:49:25,691 --> 00:49:31,055 Goddard to the Community Preservation Commission as the Select Board 754 00:49:31,055 --> 00:49:32,221 representative. 755 00:49:33,781 --> 00:49:37,089 All right, I move to reappoint Mike Goddard to the 756 00:49:37,089 --> 00:49:40,981 Community Preservation Committee for a three-way challenge. 757 00:49:44,061 --> 00:49:44,341 2nd. 758 00:49:48,901 --> 00:49:52,301 All those in favor Hooter aye. 759 00:49:51,501 --> 00:49:52,701 Rugose eye. 760 00:49:53,501 --> 00:49:58,584 All right, we need to reappoint Diane Howell and 761 00:49:58,584 --> 00:49:59,621 Donna Sun. 762 00:50:01,501 --> 00:50:05,794 To that Council on Aging, do the same term for the same things you 763 00:50:05,794 --> 00:50:08,677 can combine that into one. That sounds good. 764 00:50:08,677 --> 00:50:13,610 I move to reappoint Diane Howell and Donna Sun to the Council on Aging for a 765 00:50:13,610 --> 00:50:16,301 three-year term to expire June 30th, 2020. 766 00:50:17,101 --> 00:50:17,661 2nd. 767 00:50:18,701 --> 00:50:19,901 Discussion. 768 00:50:21,181 --> 00:50:24,981 All those in favor, Hooter aye. Aye. 769 00:50:24,821 --> 00:50:25,781 Rugo's eye. 770 00:50:27,261 --> 00:50:30,726 All right. Thank you very much, Diane and Donna. 771 00:50:30,726 --> 00:50:36,382 And now we need to reappoint Tom Merolli to the Economic Development Committee. 772 00:50:36,382 --> 00:50:41,756 I move to reappoint Tom Merolli to the Economic Development Committee for a 773 00:50:41,756 --> 00:50:44,301 three-year term to expire June 30th. 774 00:50:45,181 --> 00:50:45,381 2nd. 775 00:50:45,541 --> 00:50:45,701 Sure. 776 00:50:47,821 --> 00:50:48,621 Discussion. 777 00:50:50,261 --> 00:50:53,541 All those in favor Hooter. Aye. 778 00:50:52,901 --> 00:50:54,221 Brugos eye. 779 00:50:55,821 --> 00:50:58,958 Thank you very much, Mr. Tom Roli. All right, 780 00:50:58,958 --> 00:51:03,118 now we need to reappoint Jim Stover to the Cultural Council. 781 00:51:03,118 --> 00:51:08,573 I move to reappoint Jim Stover to the Cultural Council for a three-year term to 782 00:51:08,573 --> 00:51:10,141 expire June 30th, 2028. 783 00:51:11,101 --> 00:51:11,301 2nd. 784 00:51:12,661 --> 00:51:15,268 Discussion. This has an MGL which limits the term 785 00:51:15,268 --> 00:51:19,492 someone can serve on the Cultural Council and Elena and I have talked about this 786 00:51:19,492 --> 00:51:22,046 before. I don't know why the Cultural Council is 787 00:51:22,046 --> 00:51:25,644 the one subject to term limits, but it is and but Jim Stover has not 788 00:51:25,644 --> 00:51:28,512 reached that. So he will after this and have to take a 789 00:51:28,512 --> 00:51:30,701 year hiatus, but we confirmed that before. 790 00:51:31,381 --> 00:51:36,414 Very interesting municipal fact. Thank you. That is extremely interesting. 791 00:51:36,414 --> 00:51:41,917 I would love to know the history of that. Sounds are tracks this and is cognizant 792 00:51:41,917 --> 00:51:43,661 of it and it's good to go. 793 00:51:44,621 --> 00:51:44,701 Um. 794 00:51:46,861 --> 00:51:52,725 All right. Shoot. Where are we at? That was discussion. Discussion. 795 00:51:52,725 --> 00:51:57,381 Thank you. All right. All those in favor, Kuter. Aye. 796 00:51:58,101 --> 00:51:58,781 Brugos eye. 797 00:51:58,821 --> 00:51:58,981 OK. 798 00:51:59,941 --> 00:52:06,547 Thank you very much, Jim. All right. We need to reappoint Kristina Campbell to 799 00:52:06,547 --> 00:52:12,902 the Historical Commission and to and to the Historical District Commission. 800 00:52:12,902 --> 00:52:17,501 I move to reappoint Kristina Campbell to the Historic. 801 00:52:17,501 --> 00:52:23,967 Commission and the Historic District Commission for a three-year term to 802 00:52:23,261 --> 00:52:23,461 2nd. 803 00:52:23,967 --> 00:52:29,901 expire June 30th, 2020. Discussion. All those in favor Kuter. Aye. 804 00:52:29,861 --> 00:52:30,861 Rugose eye. 805 00:52:30,901 --> 00:52:31,701 Thank you. 806 00:52:32,701 --> 00:52:38,679 Thank you very much, Kristina. All right. We are reappointing Debbie Broe to the 807 00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:44,140 Historical Commission. I move to. I move to reappoint Deborah Broe to the 808 00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:47,461 Historical Commission for a three-year term. 809 00:52:48,861 --> 00:52:49,061 2nd. 810 00:52:50,141 --> 00:52:55,781 Discussion. All those in favor, Kuter. Aye, no aye. 811 00:52:56,661 --> 00:52:57,101 Rugose eye. 812 00:52:58,821 --> 00:53:04,831 Thank you very much, Deborah. We need to reappoint Elena Brugos and 813 00:53:04,831 --> 00:53:08,101 Anne Mazar to the Land Use Committee. 814 00:53:09,621 --> 00:53:14,336 Should we do? OK, that'll be fine. Is there anything you can do that with 815 00:53:14,336 --> 00:53:19,370 two appointing yourself cause she asked to do we have to pass that to the next 816 00:53:16,341 --> 00:53:18,781 Yeah, is this gonna be an issue? 817 00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:22,810 one so we can have three or I don't know those goals. 818 00:53:22,810 --> 00:53:26,760 You have a quorum here and you need a majority of the quorum, 819 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,181 so two votes is a legitimate vote, OK? 820 00:53:29,461 --> 00:53:32,461 So, so Jason can second. 821 00:53:29,501 --> 00:53:30,101 Sounds good. 822 00:53:31,461 --> 00:53:37,413 So I will second Anna and then we will. Yeah, you'll abstain. That'll be good fun. 823 00:53:37,413 --> 00:53:41,285 OK, yeah, let's do Anne separately. That sounds good. 824 00:53:39,061 --> 00:53:41,381 Can we do and separately or? 825 00:53:41,285 --> 00:53:46,878 I I moved to reappoint Elena Brugos to the Landies Committee for a three-year 826 00:53:46,878 --> 00:53:49,101 term to expire June 30th, 2020. 827 00:53:50,101 --> 00:53:56,781 Second discussion. All those in favor Kuter. Aye. 828 00:53:56,741 --> 00:53:57,421 I'll abstain. 829 00:53:58,781 --> 00:54:03,350 All right, motion passes. Next, I move to reappoint Amy's Active Land Use 830 00:54:03,350 --> 00:54:06,621 Committee for a three-year term to expire June 30th. 831 00:54:07,101 --> 00:54:07,301 2nd. 832 00:54:08,901 --> 00:54:13,381 Discussion. All those in favor, Kuter. Aye. 833 00:54:13,541 --> 00:54:14,061 Brugos eye. 834 00:54:15,101 --> 00:54:18,461 Thank you very much, Elena and Anne. 835 00:54:19,581 --> 00:54:23,182 All right, we need to reappoint Matthew Clark to the 836 00:54:23,182 --> 00:54:27,462 Zoning Board of Appeals. I move to reappoint Matt Clark to the 837 00:54:27,462 --> 00:54:32,421 Zoning Board of Appeals for a three-year term to expire June 30th, 2028. 838 00:54:33,261 --> 00:54:33,461 2nd. 839 00:54:33,421 --> 00:54:34,501 Yeah. 840 00:54:35,261 --> 00:54:36,621 Discussion. 841 00:54:37,581 --> 00:54:41,061 All those in favor hooter aye. 842 00:54:41,061 --> 00:54:42,981 Rigose eye. 843 00:54:43,421 --> 00:54:48,991 Thank you very much, Matthew. All right, the next one and the last one is to 844 00:54:48,991 --> 00:54:54,705 reappoint Lonnie Tinio as the alternate Zoning Board of Appeals for a one-year 845 00:54:54,705 --> 00:54:57,960 term. I move to reappoint Lonnie Tinio as an 846 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,661 alternate to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a one-year term to. 847 00:55:05,981 --> 00:55:06,181 2nd. 848 00:55:06,781 --> 00:55:11,503 Discussion. Is this the whole thing? It's always one year. OK, 849 00:55:11,503 --> 00:55:13,901 All those in favor, Hoot or aye. 850 00:55:15,621 --> 00:55:17,341 Brugos eye. 851 00:55:17,821 --> 00:55:23,602 All right. Thank you very much, Lonnie. And so on the point of appointments, 852 00:55:23,602 --> 00:55:27,356 there are two that are not on here, 2 committees. 853 00:55:27,356 --> 00:55:32,311 So there's the Conservation Commission and the Finance Committee, 854 00:55:32,311 --> 00:55:37,341 both of which have multiple folks interested in openings. So with. 855 00:55:37,581 --> 00:55:41,021 With the Conservation Commission, there were two openings with two 856 00:55:41,021 --> 00:55:43,587 incumbents. One incumbent was interested in being 857 00:55:43,587 --> 00:55:46,719 reappointed, the other incumbent was not. And we have Katie, 858 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,928 I think there's three other two or three, there's multiple other people interest. 859 00:55:50,928 --> 00:55:53,700 So we've got, we've got three to four people that the 860 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,061 chairs on and can can elaborate a little bit. 861 00:55:56,301 --> 00:56:00,595 Multiple people for for the vacancy. So in the Finance Committee we have two 862 00:56:00,595 --> 00:56:04,443 incumbents who are interested in reappointment and one new candidate 863 00:56:04,443 --> 00:56:08,290 interest in reappointment. So what the chairs of both committees are 864 00:56:08,290 --> 00:56:11,301 looking for is guidance from the Select Board on how. 865 00:56:11,421 --> 00:56:15,270 They should be approaching this. So ultimately the appointment is the 866 00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:19,339 Select Board's appointment. Historically, when there has been an opening, 867 00:56:19,339 --> 00:56:23,792 committees have interviewed interested parties and come to the Select Board with 868 00:56:23,792 --> 00:56:26,981 their recommendation, it becomes a little more difficult. 869 00:56:27,661 --> 00:56:32,568 I shouldn't say that there is less precedent in recent times when we have 870 00:56:32,568 --> 00:56:37,608 incumbents kind of interviewing and standing for reappointment to their own 871 00:56:37,608 --> 00:56:41,851 position against folks who were not currently on the committee. 872 00:56:41,851 --> 00:56:45,432 So both chairs are looking for guidance on, you know, 873 00:56:45,432 --> 00:56:47,421 should we interview everybody. 874 00:56:47,501 --> 00:56:50,863 But the folks who are up for reappointment and interested discussion 875 00:56:50,863 --> 00:56:53,201 and votes, do you want the board to to meet and 876 00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:56,514 provide recommendations that the constituent committees to meet and 877 00:56:56,514 --> 00:57:00,313 provide recommendations to the board? Does the board want to interview people 878 00:57:00,313 --> 00:57:03,041 individually? They're just looking for some guidance on 879 00:57:03,041 --> 00:57:04,941 how you think they should, they should. 880 00:57:05,501 --> 00:57:06,301 Proceed. 881 00:57:07,821 --> 00:57:11,272 This is one that we probably need the whole board to discuss, 882 00:57:11,272 --> 00:57:15,224 but we will get started. Carl, why don't you, if you got your hand up, 883 00:57:15,224 --> 00:57:19,621 why don't you chat about what's going on and then we'll get next to the board. 884 00:57:17,701 --> 00:57:21,541 Right. Well, my question is what is the current policy? 885 00:57:21,541 --> 00:57:26,890 The 2018 policy very clearly states what should be done in this circumstance, 886 00:57:26,890 --> 00:57:32,376 but I've been informed but not seen the draft proposal that's being reviewed by 887 00:57:32,376 --> 00:57:36,010 Town Council. Does that draft change the process for 888 00:57:36,010 --> 00:57:36,901 interviewing? 889 00:57:39,821 --> 00:57:44,453 So as I understand it, the policy is relative to openings on the 890 00:57:44,453 --> 00:57:47,873 committee. So when I had said that there wasn't 891 00:57:47,873 --> 00:57:52,576 recent precedent on this, it was my understanding that we haven't 892 00:57:52,576 --> 00:57:52,861 had. 893 00:57:53,661 --> 00:57:58,643 Both incumbents and you know, newcomers, outside folks, whoever you want, 894 00:57:58,643 --> 00:58:03,356 new new faces at the same time. So I think there will be an interview 895 00:58:03,356 --> 00:58:06,587 process, but I I think having specific guidance 896 00:58:06,587 --> 00:58:08,741 from the select board is useful. 897 00:58:07,781 --> 00:58:10,829 OK, what I have done with the candidates for 898 00:58:10,829 --> 00:58:16,449 the Conservation Commission is that I've extended them an invitation to attend our 899 00:58:16,449 --> 00:58:19,971 next meeting. We will be interviewing the three new 900 00:58:19,971 --> 00:58:23,221 members as well as Peter Coffin, the incumbent. 901 00:58:23,261 --> 00:58:28,202 The incumbent, Peter Coffin, would not be participating in the 902 00:58:28,202 --> 00:58:32,516 deliberations. After we interview all four candidates, 903 00:58:29,581 --> 00:58:29,941 Goodbye. 904 00:58:32,221 --> 00:58:32,821 Yes. 905 00:58:32,516 --> 00:58:38,868 I would ask the Conservation Commission to entertain a motion as to whether they 906 00:58:38,868 --> 00:58:43,181 wish to make a recommendation or whether they wish to. 907 00:58:42,101 --> 00:58:42,261 HC. 908 00:58:43,181 --> 00:58:46,341 Just leave that U for the select board. 909 00:58:49,021 --> 00:58:53,310 That's a great way to approach it. Yeah, I think that's pretty reasonable. 910 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:56,856 I'm just our policy, the one that's under review right now is 911 00:58:56,856 --> 00:59:01,431 is pretty high level in it and it and it says essentially that it's desired but 912 00:59:01,431 --> 00:59:04,061 not mandatory for a board to interview, yeah. 913 00:59:02,141 --> 00:59:02,661 Exactly. 914 00:59:04,301 --> 00:59:05,861 So um. 915 00:59:07,421 --> 00:59:10,655 Yeah, I I think it's fair for every person 916 00:59:10,655 --> 00:59:16,821 looking for the spot to talk about why they want that, even if they're incumbent. 917 00:59:16,821 --> 00:59:18,701 Yeah, right. And I think. 918 00:59:19,821 --> 00:59:24,297 I think I would prefer that the committee make a choice, 919 00:59:24,297 --> 00:59:28,301 but I understand that there are times it can't so. 920 00:59:27,301 --> 00:59:31,493 What we what we did the last time we had a contested position, 921 00:59:31,493 --> 00:59:36,083 we had two candidates and both of them had strengths and weaknesses. 922 00:59:36,083 --> 00:59:39,609 Both of them had different, very strong backgrounds. 923 00:59:39,609 --> 00:59:45,131 And the letter I prepared for the select board laid out what those were and I left 924 00:59:45,131 --> 00:59:46,461 it up to the select. 925 00:59:46,781 --> 00:59:50,621 Board to say, OK, what kind of experience do you want on 926 00:59:50,621 --> 00:59:51,901 the the Commission? 927 00:59:53,741 --> 00:59:58,166 I remember that one, Carl. That was extremely helpful and and I 928 00:59:58,166 --> 01:00:01,278 think that's a that helpful way to go. Yeah, 929 01:00:01,278 --> 01:00:06,878 I think if the board has context to make the decision and that context is backed 930 01:00:06,878 --> 01:00:09,021 by the expertise of that board. 931 01:00:09,581 --> 01:00:12,384 Then we should be able to do that, right? Like, 932 01:00:12,384 --> 01:00:16,412 but it's when the it's when the recommendation doesn't come with any 933 01:00:16,412 --> 01:00:19,331 context or there's no context and it's, you know, 934 01:00:19,331 --> 01:00:22,950 you make the choice when we're not the experts in that space, 935 01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:27,153 it makes that pretty difficult. So that's why I'd like the committee to 936 01:00:25,301 --> 01:00:25,621 Right. 937 01:00:27,153 --> 01:00:29,021 provide that context. It sounds. 938 01:00:29,101 --> 01:00:32,461 Like you're going to. So yeah, that's. 939 01:00:30,141 --> 01:00:33,661 Yes, what's happened in the past is after the. 940 01:00:35,421 --> 01:00:39,090 Commission or the committee appoint does the interviews. 941 01:00:39,090 --> 01:00:43,917 The Select Board can then have another round of interviews and and talk to 942 01:00:43,917 --> 01:00:49,130 people if and and as I could also appear as the Con Com chair saying here's what 943 01:00:49,130 --> 01:00:51,061 the Con Com recommendation is. 944 01:00:55,381 --> 01:01:01,293 All right, that's fair. And so we'd be, we'd be looking to have that discussion 945 01:01:01,293 --> 01:01:07,501 the first if you're going to meet at the next week. So the first meeting in August, 946 01:01:07,501 --> 01:01:08,461 right, Elena. 947 01:01:09,261 --> 01:01:13,456 So I just wanted to add, I know one one question that comes up 948 01:01:11,901 --> 01:01:12,021 OK. 949 01:01:13,456 --> 01:01:18,782 often when potential candidates come to select board meetings for interviews is 950 01:01:18,782 --> 01:01:23,908 we ask whether candidates might be interested in other boards or committees. 951 01:01:23,908 --> 01:01:28,701 And I know with so many people interested in serving the town, I would. 952 01:01:28,941 --> 01:01:33,565 Love to like take the opportunity to see if any of them might. 953 01:01:33,565 --> 01:01:38,262 Clearly we can't appoint all of them to the this one open spot, 954 01:01:38,262 --> 01:01:44,206 but like consider whether there might be other openings where these people might 955 01:01:44,206 --> 01:01:46,701 be able to contribute to the town. 956 01:01:46,701 --> 01:01:50,101 So just a little planting that seed there. 957 01:01:47,341 --> 01:01:51,656 Sounds like a good one pager. Yeah, it sounds like Katie, 958 01:01:51,656 --> 01:01:55,301 if you could print like a one pager to hand out. 959 01:01:57,661 --> 01:02:03,653 Do that. There are plenty of open spots, so they all come to the next meeting. 960 01:02:03,653 --> 01:02:08,886 Like all the people who are, we'll have to wait for Carl to get back 961 01:02:08,886 --> 01:02:09,341 to us. 962 01:02:09,581 --> 01:02:12,484 Well, even even after we interview all four 963 01:02:12,484 --> 01:02:15,980 candidates, I would say that the Select Board should 964 01:02:15,980 --> 01:02:19,278 do the same, but they would be guided by what our 965 01:02:19,278 --> 01:02:20,861 recommendation would be. 966 01:02:21,661 --> 01:02:22,861 Yeah, yeah. 967 01:02:22,541 --> 01:02:25,021 It's it's your appointment, not ours. 968 01:02:25,421 --> 01:02:26,741 Yes, thank you. 969 01:02:29,981 --> 01:02:37,101 Is that enough guidance, Carl, or do you want more more sustain? 970 01:02:35,821 --> 01:02:39,036 No, no, that's that's fine for the Conservation 971 01:02:39,036 --> 01:02:42,652 Commission. I will now put on my other hat as someone 972 01:02:42,652 --> 01:02:47,741 interested in the Fincom and say, Yep, let me know what the Fincom's doing. 973 01:02:49,421 --> 01:02:53,622 So yes, the Todd administrator is memoing our 974 01:02:53,622 --> 01:02:59,466 statements right now. So I I think that's fair and I think it's 975 01:02:59,466 --> 01:03:03,301 clear and it there's precedent for it, so. 976 01:03:04,461 --> 01:03:05,461 All right. Um. 977 01:03:10,101 --> 01:03:14,048 So there's nothing we need to specifically do here. 978 01:03:14,048 --> 01:03:20,119 We've spoken about what our guidance is. We just need to follow through on what 979 01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:24,141 we've said and wish Carl good luck in both his hats. 980 01:03:25,341 --> 01:03:31,276 So thanks Kyle for hanging out to you know an hour and and so into the meeting 981 01:03:31,276 --> 01:03:37,135 to to ask those questions and get us to clarify publicly. That's that's good. 982 01:03:36,741 --> 01:03:40,461 The advantage of attending remotely is you can multitask. 983 01:03:37,135 --> 01:03:38,261 All good stuff. 984 01:03:41,341 --> 01:03:42,341 Yeah. 985 01:03:43,661 --> 01:03:46,947 All right. Well, does anybody have anything else to add? 986 01:03:46,947 --> 01:03:49,541 Otherwise we can move on to the next agenda. 987 01:03:51,981 --> 01:03:55,012 All right, so agenda item number 13 is meeting 988 01:03:55,012 --> 01:03:59,203 minutes from approval. You'll remember that one of them was held 989 01:03:59,203 --> 01:04:02,814 back for amending, and that amendment has been made and 990 01:04:02,814 --> 01:04:08,101 approved by Select Board Member Goddard, so we're ready to move and approve them. 991 01:04:09,421 --> 01:04:14,301 I move to approve the meeting minutes from March 18th 2025 and June 18th. 992 01:04:15,381 --> 01:04:15,581 2nd. 993 01:04:17,421 --> 01:04:18,021 Discussion. 994 01:04:19,221 --> 01:04:24,663 Are we caught up? Yep. Sweet. That's really awesome. 995 01:04:24,663 --> 01:04:32,261 I think that's like the first time since I've been here. Yeah, I want to. 996 01:04:33,501 --> 01:04:38,197 We had a senior tax abatement worker, but got all of 2024 done and then caught 997 01:04:38,197 --> 01:04:41,526 up on 2025 while learning the rest of the job. So yeah, 998 01:04:41,526 --> 01:04:45,925 I'm pretty proud of that as well. That's really exciting news. All right, 999 01:04:45,925 --> 01:04:48,421 All right. All those in favor, Cooter Aye. 1000 01:04:49,181 --> 01:04:49,701 Brugos eye. 1001 01:04:51,061 --> 01:04:56,495 All right, motion passes. Thank you. And then item number 14 in your packet 1002 01:04:56,495 --> 01:05:00,213 were minutes for circulation from the last meeting. 1003 01:05:00,213 --> 01:05:05,861 So make sure that you look at those and make any updates to get them to Katie. 1004 01:05:06,221 --> 01:05:08,981 Before our next meeting, please. 1005 01:05:10,061 --> 01:05:15,982 The MEC merger update, this is a fun one. Would you like to give an update on that? 1006 01:05:15,982 --> 01:05:20,775 Yeah, certainly. So MEC, Metacomet Emergency Communications Center, 1007 01:05:20,775 --> 01:05:25,427 our regional dispatch, we've been exploring A merger with SEMREC, 1008 01:05:25,427 --> 01:05:26,061 which is. 1009 01:05:26,261 --> 01:05:30,440 Same thing, but with Foxborough, Mansfield, Easton, Oregon. 1010 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:36,150 This was based upon getting a state 911 grant to expand the facilities at Semrec. 1011 01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:41,651 Obviously the whole operation moved over there and we unexpectedly were denied 1012 01:05:41,651 --> 01:05:43,461 that grant from state 911. 1013 01:05:44,861 --> 01:05:49,418 So earlier this month, the MEC's Interim Executive Director, 1014 01:05:49,418 --> 01:05:52,855 Bill Keegan, and the Chair of Semrak's Board, 1015 01:05:52,855 --> 01:05:57,337 the Town Administrator from Easton, the Chair of our Board, 1016 01:05:57,337 --> 01:06:00,101 the Town Administrator from Franklin. 1017 01:06:00,541 --> 01:06:05,500 And then some folks from State 911 and the Executive Director of SEMRAC all met 1018 01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:09,715 to say what what happened. So the state just hasn't dealt with this 1019 01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:14,301 before, the merger of two regional, 2 regional entities and what do we do 1020 01:06:14,301 --> 01:06:18,764 with the equipment and everything that state grants paid for initially? 1021 01:06:18,764 --> 01:06:19,941 How do we you know? 1022 01:06:20,501 --> 01:06:23,912 So it's we're kind of in uncharted waters. So it's not a no, 1023 01:06:23,912 --> 01:06:28,328 it's a not right now from the state. So they're looking to initiate a study on 1024 01:06:28,328 --> 01:06:32,521 how regionals will merge and hopefully clear up the enabling statute stuff 1025 01:06:32,521 --> 01:06:35,652 because the way Mecca is set up, we have a special act, 1026 01:06:35,652 --> 01:06:39,342 the way SEMRAC is set up, they have an inter municipal agreement, 1027 01:06:39,342 --> 01:06:39,621 it's. 1028 01:06:39,741 --> 01:06:43,358 I might not think that's right, but we've got two separate governing 1029 01:06:43,358 --> 01:06:45,874 structures. So that's been one of the points of 1030 01:06:45,874 --> 01:06:49,595 contention about which governing structure do we adopt as well as what 1031 01:06:49,595 --> 01:06:53,369 funding structure do we adopt. Myself and the rent and the TA have been 1032 01:06:53,369 --> 01:06:54,941 tasked with figuring that out. 1033 01:06:54,941 --> 01:07:00,365 So the state's doing a study this fall and they're looking to have guidance in 1034 01:07:00,365 --> 01:07:04,690 advance of the next round of state 911 funding in fiscal 2027. 1035 01:07:04,690 --> 01:07:09,701 So we may just kind of shift the whole timeline out a year. So it's not. 1036 01:07:10,541 --> 01:07:13,837 It's it's not it's not dead like I initially thought it was when we when I 1037 01:07:13,837 --> 01:07:16,913 first talked to to the executive director interim executive director. 1038 01:07:16,913 --> 01:07:19,945 So they're not just stretching it out like they really want to know. 1039 01:07:19,945 --> 01:07:23,284 Yeah they're they're trying to they haven't been there before and they want 1040 01:07:23,284 --> 01:07:26,228 to make sure we do it right. How do they give like are we going to 1041 01:07:26,228 --> 01:07:28,381 turn into a pilot because there's other waiting. 1042 01:07:28,461 --> 01:07:35,565 Regional mergers in the wings or I think, I think grow or die has kind of been the 1043 01:07:35,565 --> 01:07:42,326 mantra of these regional dispatch centers because there is such efficiency and 1044 01:07:42,326 --> 01:07:47,461 scaling and small communities can't do it on their own, so. 1045 01:07:47,661 --> 01:07:51,384 There hasn't been one yet. I think they're trying to set the 1046 01:07:51,384 --> 01:07:54,741 groundwork that there are sometimes that's beneficial. 1047 01:07:55,861 --> 01:07:59,730 And then, so I am going to the MEC to meet with the 1048 01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:04,864 interim Executive Director and the Wrentham TA on Tuesday next week. 1049 01:08:04,864 --> 01:08:10,741 So we'll get an update then and I'll tour the facility and all that next week. 1050 01:08:10,941 --> 01:08:13,181 So lots more to come on that. 1051 01:08:14,221 --> 01:08:17,114 All right. That's going to be like a all year 1052 01:08:17,114 --> 01:08:20,322 discussion. Certainly I will say one of the one of 1053 01:08:20,322 --> 01:08:24,976 the advantages of our of the MEC's governing structure is that I'm I'm on 1054 01:08:24,976 --> 01:08:29,882 the board of MEC as our representative and we vote there and that's about the 1055 01:08:29,882 --> 01:08:32,586 TAS, the board members vote and that's the 1056 01:08:32,586 --> 01:08:33,781 binding resolution. 1057 01:08:33,821 --> 01:08:37,096 And that's the binding outcome for Mac Semrec's governing structure. 1058 01:08:37,096 --> 01:08:39,421 They have to go back to all their select boards, 1059 01:08:39,421 --> 01:08:43,313 get votes to the select boards and then come back to the which is which is pretty 1060 01:08:43,313 --> 01:08:45,638 much, yeah. So we like ours a lot better because 1061 01:08:45,638 --> 01:08:49,340 we're a board of people who know what it's like to deal with boards and so we 1062 01:08:49,340 --> 01:08:50,621 move things pretty quickly. 1063 01:08:50,621 --> 01:08:53,941 And we proposed that our structures survive. 1064 01:08:55,261 --> 01:08:59,798 That makes sense. Bill managed. Yeah, you would. 1065 01:08:59,798 --> 01:09:06,093 You would hear it from Chief Kerzey and Chief Bangmap wasn't going. 1066 01:09:06,093 --> 01:09:09,981 Surely you're not talking about our board. 1067 01:09:10,781 --> 01:09:16,104 OK, so we we did 16 already. 17 is the Blackstone Valley Opioid Task 1068 01:09:16,104 --> 01:09:21,273 Force. We talk about this IMA. This is a yearly approval, correct? 1069 01:09:21,273 --> 01:09:25,207 Correct. And Chief Kurtz is on if you want to give 1070 01:09:25,207 --> 01:09:30,221 any more context. Yeah. Chief, do you want to just say anything? 1071 01:09:30,341 --> 01:09:37,801 Thing about how the region uses this opioid money to to do work across 1072 01:09:37,801 --> 01:09:39,061 departments. 1073 01:09:41,661 --> 01:09:44,298 Sure. We're looking at clinicians and such. 1074 01:09:44,298 --> 01:09:48,554 This is actually fairly new. That's why we need you to sign up for it. 1075 01:09:48,554 --> 01:09:53,169 It's several departments that Chief Matt and me started to put together from 1076 01:09:53,169 --> 01:09:56,166 Oxbridge, got all the chiefs together and we made 1077 01:09:56,166 --> 01:10:00,061 this task force in order to have all of our money that comes in. 1078 01:10:00,221 --> 01:10:04,477 From the opioid settlements be matched by a state grant so we can double the amount 1079 01:10:04,477 --> 01:10:08,732 of money for all the communities and then put it towards a program that we're going 1080 01:10:08,732 --> 01:10:12,025 to start up in the future. So once all the agreements are signed 1081 01:10:12,025 --> 01:10:15,115 with all the towns, I think Uxbridge signed those yesterday. 1082 01:10:15,115 --> 01:10:17,547 A few of the other towns are in line right now, 1083 01:10:17,547 --> 01:10:19,421 then we're going to get together and. 1084 01:10:19,821 --> 01:10:23,341 Pretty much start the task force and figure out how the funds going to be used. 1085 01:10:26,901 --> 01:10:30,782 Right. And Jeremy, you feel comfortable signing on perhaps 1086 01:10:30,782 --> 01:10:35,781 the board and all that good stuff. Yeah, certainly. So this similar to Mac, 1087 01:10:35,781 --> 01:10:38,741 it's not exactly the same as Mac, but where? 1088 01:10:39,941 --> 01:10:43,990 Our dollars go a lot further when we leverage them together and attack 1089 01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:48,038 problems like this regionally, rather than trying to stop opiate abuse 1090 01:10:48,038 --> 01:10:52,941 and stopping those efforts at our borders. I think that's not how the problem exists. 1091 01:10:54,941 --> 01:10:59,032 Yeah, I would, I would like to hear updates on this. 1092 01:10:59,032 --> 01:11:02,891 You know, this epidemic is one that I don't think 1093 01:11:02,891 --> 01:11:08,293 stops at any time. So yeah, if we could hear how that's being applied 1094 01:11:08,293 --> 01:11:14,621 across the region, I don't know if it's, you know, Narcan boxes, it's convenient. 1095 01:11:14,901 --> 01:11:17,501 It stores or whatever it is I'd like to hear about. 1096 01:11:17,501 --> 01:11:19,301 I think it's good for the community. 1097 01:11:17,941 --> 01:11:20,738 Once it's up, once everything's up and running and we 1098 01:11:20,501 --> 01:11:21,941 How to? 1099 01:11:20,738 --> 01:11:24,416 start having regular meetings, I'll make sure I forward that to Jeremy 1100 01:11:24,416 --> 01:11:25,141 and the board. 1101 01:11:25,101 --> 01:11:28,609 Great. And just to be clear, the Town of Uxbridge is kind of the lead 1102 01:11:28,609 --> 01:11:31,715 municipality on this. So they do their record keeping and all 1103 01:11:31,715 --> 01:11:34,020 of that. So we will get periodic reports from 1104 01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:38,128 Uxbridge on the kind of back end, right, because this there's money coming from a 1105 01:11:38,128 --> 01:11:40,584 settlement which comes through the state, right. 1106 01:11:40,584 --> 01:11:44,341 So everything needs to be and this IMA obligates us to contribute to that. 1107 01:11:44,461 --> 01:11:49,541 December, right. That makes sense. OK, so I'd be looking for a motion to approve. 1108 01:11:51,181 --> 01:11:55,023 I believe that the Select Board approved the IMA and authorized the Town 1109 01:11:55,023 --> 01:11:56,181 Administrator to sell. 1110 01:11:57,541 --> 01:11:57,741 2nd. 1111 01:11:57,701 --> 01:12:04,381 All right. Discussion. All those in favor, Hooter. Aye. 1112 01:12:05,501 --> 01:12:05,941 Rugose eye. 1113 01:12:07,181 --> 01:12:10,705 All right. Thank you, Chief, for your extended efforts with this type 1114 01:12:10,705 --> 01:12:11,661 of regionalization. 1115 01:12:15,821 --> 01:12:21,570 All right. So, all right, #18 TA review process discussion. 1116 01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:29,042 We need sound for that. All right. So when we hired Jeremy a year ago, right? 1117 01:12:29,042 --> 01:12:35,461 Yeah. All right. When we started, when we hired Jeremy a year ago. 1118 01:12:35,581 --> 01:12:44,020 Part of his contract said that after one year we would do a review and so a 1119 01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:48,461 performance review and so I talked with. 1120 01:12:49,141 --> 01:12:55,477 HR who is online. Sorry Jen, you had to wait the whole time about how 1121 01:12:55,477 --> 01:13:02,627 we would do that and she got a template for us and I just during the middle of 1122 01:13:02,627 --> 01:13:08,781 this meeting sent that template to all of you and we just adjusted. 1123 01:13:08,861 --> 01:13:13,920 Just a little bit. This is the first time we're doing this 1124 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,636 and So what I'd be asking you to do, including the TA, 1125 01:13:18,636 --> 01:13:24,809 would be to fill out this review. So clearly his will be a self review. 1126 01:13:24,809 --> 01:13:28,581 Those reviews will all go to Jen and she's. 1127 01:13:28,741 --> 01:13:34,230 Going to go through the efforts of combining those reviews into a single 1128 01:13:34,230 --> 01:13:40,396 Select Board review document and then we will have Jeremy's self review document, 1129 01:13:40,396 --> 01:13:44,381 you know to compare that Select Board document with. 1130 01:13:44,701 --> 01:13:48,630 Going forward, oh, and so in this review document, 1131 01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:53,636 it talks about, you know, it's just like every other performance 1132 01:13:53,636 --> 01:13:59,182 review where it talks about goals. We did not put goals specifically in 1133 01:13:59,182 --> 01:14:03,341 Jeremy's contract when he started. We did have goals. 1134 01:14:03,981 --> 01:14:08,831 But we didn't write anything down. So this is like the first time through. 1135 01:14:08,831 --> 01:14:12,645 And so I'm just going to ask all of you, including Jeremy, 1136 01:14:12,645 --> 01:14:17,688 to just pick five goals a little easier for us because we're going to combine 1137 01:14:17,688 --> 01:14:22,085 them all and they're going to kind of look very, you know, similar. 1138 01:14:22,085 --> 01:14:23,701 But your I can share the. 1139 01:14:23,901 --> 01:14:27,323 The ones we did in January, if you want to use that as that, 1140 01:14:27,323 --> 01:14:30,352 we can do that. I was worried that we had too many on 1141 01:14:30,352 --> 01:14:34,222 there and that some members might want to pick their specific goals. 1142 01:14:34,222 --> 01:14:37,700 That was my only thing. And if we and I would like to make it 1143 01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:42,075 more official next time around so that you have essentially career objectives 1144 01:14:42,075 --> 01:14:43,421 that then you can write. 1145 01:14:43,501 --> 01:14:47,347 Against next year that you're not kind of scrambling for that. 1146 01:14:47,347 --> 01:14:52,108 That was the one little piece of this I wanted to have that discussion about. 1147 01:14:52,108 --> 01:14:57,052 It's like how how all the rest of it is like you know normal employee stuff that 1148 01:14:57,052 --> 01:15:01,752 we have to capture those metrics of. But when we talk about your your actual 1149 01:15:01,752 --> 01:15:02,301 you know. 1150 01:15:02,301 --> 01:15:07,360 PA personal goals. That wasn't something that we, you know, 1151 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,661 we did very generically in your contract. So yeah, 1152 01:15:11,661 --> 01:15:17,141 the the select work set five goals in January to be achieved by. 1153 01:15:17,541 --> 01:15:20,982 The end of the fiscal year and they had like sub points to them. 1154 01:15:20,982 --> 01:15:23,364 It's on the charts. Yeah, there's, you know, 1155 01:15:23,364 --> 01:15:27,281 maybe half a checked office point. So my anticipation was that I would be 1156 01:15:27,281 --> 01:15:30,987 measured against those goals. Because what I really don't want is you 1157 01:15:30,987 --> 01:15:35,380 to write down a goal that you had for me to do that I didn't know about and then I 1158 01:15:35,380 --> 01:15:37,021 get measured against that goal. 1159 01:15:37,141 --> 01:15:41,680 And so I think that's the perfect piece of the HR combining. 1160 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:47,038 I would expect that Jen wouldn't include set goal if it were completely 1161 01:15:47,038 --> 01:15:50,981 unreasonable and only from a single individual, but. 1162 01:15:52,101 --> 01:15:56,513 Only issue I have with that. So you didn't have goals before that 1163 01:15:56,513 --> 01:15:59,520 point, but that is not your entire career or 1164 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,397 your whole year. So that's judging you on the performance 1165 01:16:03,397 --> 01:16:07,741 of the last couple months. The story's a little more so like to. 1166 01:16:07,981 --> 01:16:11,920 Yeah, include those goals, but also more general job. 1167 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,494 That was my sense is that it wouldn't like, yes, 1168 01:16:15,494 --> 01:16:19,944 we would love for you to say that you checked off all those, 1169 01:16:19,944 --> 01:16:25,123 but we also didn't make that up, you know, while you were being hired. 1170 01:16:25,123 --> 01:16:27,821 That was something that after we had. 1171 01:16:27,981 --> 01:16:34,223 Discussions with you after you work with departments after after after. So yeah, 1172 01:16:34,223 --> 01:16:37,613 exactly. I do think we can do it next year. 1173 01:16:37,613 --> 01:16:43,392 I think that we can probably out of the review process. And so by the way, 1174 01:16:43,392 --> 01:16:47,861 so then legally we have to then present that summary and. 1175 01:16:47,901 --> 01:16:52,643 Public meetings and discuss it with you and so that would happen. 1176 01:16:52,643 --> 01:16:58,319 So I I'm giving you guys a month to to work this out and send that document to 1177 01:16:58,319 --> 01:17:03,061 Jen and then so we'll present this at the last meeting in August. 1178 01:17:03,421 --> 01:17:09,399 And that way Jeremy knows where he's going and for the next year and how he's 1179 01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:15,377 done and and maybe we can move this up a little bit next year and and kind of 1180 01:17:15,377 --> 01:17:20,895 maybe correspond with a goal setting session so that you can have those 1181 01:17:20,895 --> 01:17:22,581 physical actual goals. 1182 01:17:23,381 --> 01:17:30,885 Which Jeremy will probably mention in his town administrator notes. So Elena, 1183 01:17:30,885 --> 01:17:38,484 did you have any comments on the process or or anything else you'd like to see 1184 01:17:38,484 --> 01:17:39,061 added? 1185 01:17:40,141 --> 01:17:43,983 I mean, I do think it would be nice to have that 1186 01:17:43,983 --> 01:17:49,706 write up at our fingertips of the goals that we talked about in January. 1187 01:17:49,706 --> 01:17:55,821 And I think also some of the things that we talked about in, is it September? 1188 01:17:57,341 --> 01:18:03,861 I think just it would be useful to contextualize. 1189 01:18:03,501 --> 01:18:08,080 Terri and I will do that. We will go down to the flip chart and get 1190 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,301 that and send it out to you guys. 1191 01:18:08,301 --> 01:18:12,355 And September was that meeting with the Collins Center. 1192 01:18:12,355 --> 01:18:16,046 I know that we talked about some goals, but right, 1193 01:18:16,046 --> 01:18:20,534 none of these were formulated at, you know, at the beginning, 1194 01:18:20,381 --> 01:18:24,928 He has like that call center report is in our e-mail that they sent, 1195 01:18:20,534 --> 01:18:21,981 but I think they've. 1196 01:18:24,821 --> 01:18:25,421 Mhm. 1197 01:18:24,928 --> 01:18:29,541 but that's it's I've looked and it's yeah, I didn't feel comfortable. 1198 01:18:27,981 --> 01:18:33,501 It was very sparse when like, sorry, what I remember seeing from that. 1199 01:18:36,141 --> 01:18:40,341 Yeah, it was a it. It felt like a summary of of our thoughts. 1200 01:18:40,381 --> 01:18:44,155 Right. And I think it it would probably also be 1201 01:18:41,381 --> 01:18:43,701 Which we probably can hear. 1202 01:18:44,155 --> 01:18:50,051 helpful for us to review Jeremy's contract because it's been a while since 1203 01:18:50,051 --> 01:18:51,701 I've read through it. 1204 01:18:50,861 --> 01:18:53,861 I will set now on too, yeah. 1205 01:18:52,901 --> 01:18:56,577 Yeah, I mean, I I know, I I'm, I know that I have it, 1206 01:18:56,577 --> 01:19:00,661 but it's just something that I'm realizing would be useful. 1207 01:18:59,861 --> 01:19:04,719 I'll wrap it all up in a nice little bundle for you. Appreciate that. 1208 01:19:03,261 --> 01:19:03,621 Thank you. 1209 01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:07,981 No problem. Just writing some notes to myself. 1210 01:19:15,261 --> 01:19:17,701 All right, so um, I'll get back to you guys by Monday. 1211 01:19:19,981 --> 01:19:26,166 All right. So, Jen, did you have anything to add? 1212 01:19:26,166 --> 01:19:28,021 Do you want to? 1213 01:19:29,501 --> 01:19:35,186 No, nothing to add. Like like Jason said, we had met and instead of recreating the 1214 01:19:35,186 --> 01:19:39,021 wheel, sorry, I'm babysitting and the dogs are barking. 1215 01:19:39,021 --> 01:19:43,953 Instead of recreating the wheel, I went to MMHR and grabbed a couple of 1216 01:19:43,953 --> 01:19:48,541 templates and sort of merged them together to make one for Jeremy. 1217 01:19:48,941 --> 01:19:49,421 Yeah. 1218 01:19:50,821 --> 01:19:51,341 It's great. 1219 01:19:51,581 --> 01:19:57,586 And I'd like to say from a corporate side, it's pretty close to what we do on core, 1220 01:19:57,586 --> 01:20:01,590 at least at my company. So yeah, it felt very familiar. 1221 01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:05,951 And so I had also sent an e-mail to to all department heads. 1222 01:20:05,951 --> 01:20:08,381 We'll be having an all staff soon. 1223 01:20:08,861 --> 01:20:11,981 That says, you know, do some goal setting with your own staff 1224 01:20:11,981 --> 01:20:16,207 because I want to get performance reviews to be an annual part of kind of all staff 1225 01:20:16,207 --> 01:20:18,472 stuff. Maybe not as not definitely not as in 1226 01:20:18,472 --> 01:20:22,547 depth as this, but by the same token, as I talked about, you know, secret goals, 1227 01:20:22,547 --> 01:20:26,421 I I want to make sure that expectations from supervisors are laid out first. 1228 01:20:26,701 --> 01:20:31,216 And then at the end of the fiscal year you do a review and then in that meeting 1229 01:20:31,216 --> 01:20:34,828 you said next year's and then then it becomes a yearly meeting, 1230 01:20:34,828 --> 01:20:38,948 but we haven't quite done that. So we'd be looking to to get supervisors 1231 01:20:38,948 --> 01:20:42,165 on that yearly performance review cadence for all staff. 1232 01:20:42,165 --> 01:20:46,341 And just on that note of expectations, you are not required, but you are. 1233 01:20:46,381 --> 01:20:51,879 Welcome and encouraged to schedule time with Jeremy to just talk about his, 1234 01:20:51,879 --> 01:20:55,495 you know, what your statements are going to be on 1235 01:20:55,495 --> 01:20:59,256 your paper. Like it doesn't have to be a secret and 1236 01:20:59,256 --> 01:21:03,596 it's fine if it is, it doesn't, you know, either way is is. 1237 01:21:03,596 --> 01:21:05,621 So on that document it says. 1238 01:21:05,981 --> 01:21:09,368 You know, you're welcome to schedule time to talk 1239 01:21:09,368 --> 01:21:12,890 about this. Some people are better talking about it 1240 01:21:12,890 --> 01:21:16,413 one-to-one. If you want to do that before you write 1241 01:21:16,413 --> 01:21:19,190 it, that that's that's that would be a a 1242 01:21:19,190 --> 01:21:20,341 suggestion of OK. 1243 01:21:20,941 --> 01:21:24,261 But not a requirement. 1244 01:21:25,781 --> 01:21:30,213 OK. So in a month, then a month and 1/2 or so, 1245 01:21:30,213 --> 01:21:36,341 we'll come back and and talk about what we thought about Jeremy. 1246 01:21:38,221 --> 01:21:39,461 The best simple. 1247 01:21:40,541 --> 01:21:45,901 I think Jeremy knows we love them. All right, so. 1248 01:21:46,861 --> 01:21:52,232 Just real quick checking to make sure I didn't skip over anything. Nope. 1249 01:21:52,232 --> 01:21:55,101 All right, so Tom Administrator report. 1250 01:22:00,021 --> 01:22:03,728 #19 All right, so like I sent out to to all of you, 1251 01:22:03,728 --> 01:22:09,502 I spent more time out of the office than typical the last two weeks for a couple 1252 01:22:09,502 --> 01:22:13,280 of reasons. But so website we we pushed out our roll 1253 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,701 out date to the week of the 21st, so next week. 1254 01:22:17,021 --> 01:22:22,144 There was a lot of so we had a cut off date on when stuff was migrated from our 1255 01:22:22,144 --> 01:22:27,331 old to new and then whatever was uploaded to the website between then and now we 1256 01:22:27,331 --> 01:22:31,941 have to go and duplicate and redo. That wasn't quite clear to us until. 1257 01:22:32,781 --> 01:22:36,079 Kind of recently. So there's a lot of a lot of document 1258 01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:40,907 upload that I felt it was kind of unfair to ask the town clerk to do all of it on 1259 01:22:40,907 --> 01:22:44,675 top of her radio job. So Civic Plus is doing some of that to us 1260 01:22:44,675 --> 01:22:49,032 now and that pushed out like a week. So we have a whole press release and 1261 01:22:49,032 --> 01:22:50,621 everything to go and we'll. 1262 01:22:50,701 --> 01:22:54,409 Again, it would be the same domain, domain name and it'll just click over 1263 01:22:54,409 --> 01:22:57,115 immediately. Right now we I have all department heads 1264 01:22:57,115 --> 01:22:59,369 going through. I sent them what the website, 1265 01:22:59,369 --> 01:23:01,724 the new website is right now on the test side. 1266 01:23:01,724 --> 01:23:05,432 So going through their department descriptions and this is an opportunity 1267 01:23:05,432 --> 01:23:08,789 to say either it got ported over incorrectly or in the case of the 1268 01:23:08,789 --> 01:23:09,941 Veterans Services page. 1269 01:23:10,301 --> 01:23:14,337 Which it, you know, gives a history of, I feel like half the wars the United 1270 01:23:14,337 --> 01:23:18,478 States have been in and that's not really what folks are navigating there for. 1271 01:23:18,478 --> 01:23:22,199 So the chance to kind of rewrite it as well. So when it switches over, 1272 01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:25,973 what happens to the old website? Is it going to archive somewhere if we 1273 01:23:25,973 --> 01:23:29,170 need to go back? Yeah, so we have three months or something. 1274 01:23:29,170 --> 01:23:30,061 Yeah, six months. 1275 01:23:30,141 --> 01:23:33,327 Three months, something like that to be able to go back 1276 01:23:33,327 --> 01:23:37,822 and say we missed this sort of thing. And I said in my e-mail to all staff and 1277 01:23:37,822 --> 01:23:40,951 I want to say in the meeting too. I've been, you know, 1278 01:23:40,951 --> 01:23:44,592 been on all of the the sessions and and driving a lot of stuff. 1279 01:23:44,592 --> 01:23:48,404 But really the Yaleman's work on this has been through Ellen Agro, 1280 01:23:48,404 --> 01:23:49,541 Katie Moxam and Dan. 1281 01:23:49,901 --> 01:23:54,440 And buyer, they've done a ton of work to get this. 1282 01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:59,067 So thank you to those three. Thank you. Come class, 1283 01:23:59,067 --> 01:24:05,030 we've study before you move on. So one thing that's missing that I 1284 01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:09,301 couldn't find on the new website is how to ask. 1285 01:24:09,421 --> 01:24:14,948 Highway to do to fix something for you that I saw like on every other website. 1286 01:24:14,948 --> 01:24:20,266 I know I don't know if John's ready to take Internet work orders yet, like, 1287 01:24:20,266 --> 01:24:23,624 so that's fine. But if we are ready to do that, 1288 01:24:23,624 --> 01:24:28,661 there should be a button some place. It's like we bought that software. 1289 01:24:29,101 --> 01:24:33,853 So let's get it working and the the biggest thing we can because I know that 1290 01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:38,233 a lot of the ways that they get information is like by people emailing 1291 01:24:38,233 --> 01:24:43,355 and contacting Darlene or like comes from the Police Department like it just comes 1292 01:24:43,355 --> 01:24:48,353 from all random different spots that we can get people going into the website to 1293 01:24:48,353 --> 01:24:48,661 make. 1294 01:24:48,701 --> 01:24:52,599 Those requests, it would take some operational load off. 1295 01:24:52,599 --> 01:24:57,044 Yeah, I totally agree. OK, that's all I have. Thank you. Thanks. 1296 01:24:57,044 --> 01:25:02,378 Comp class said we've had some reviews, some feedbacks and edits and I talked 1297 01:25:02,378 --> 01:25:07,301 about last time about the assistant town administrator not having data. 1298 01:25:07,701 --> 01:25:10,387 Goddard and I had a conversation with that. 1299 01:25:10,387 --> 01:25:13,865 So based upon my time out and our consultant's vacation, 1300 01:25:13,865 --> 01:25:19,053 we're meeting on the 23rd to close it out. So next week we'll close it out and we'll 1301 01:25:19,053 --> 01:25:23,141 just Polish it up from there and we'll have it shortly after that. 1302 01:25:23,821 --> 01:25:27,807 Presentation or like a document that we read and then talk about. 1303 01:25:27,807 --> 01:25:30,826 So I will initially it will be a public document. 1304 01:25:30,826 --> 01:25:35,295 So we but initially I'll schedule an executive session to go over it with 1305 01:25:35,295 --> 01:25:39,341 Select Board in terms of our negotiation strategy with the unions. 1306 01:25:39,381 --> 01:25:44,046 So at that point, I want to be very clear, it will be a public document and everyone 1307 01:25:44,046 --> 01:25:47,009 will see it. But the first time the board will see it 1308 01:25:47,009 --> 01:25:49,698 will be in the context of of labor negotiations. 1309 01:25:49,698 --> 01:25:54,087 So we'll schedule an executive session once we have it and are able to able to, 1310 01:25:54,087 --> 01:25:54,581 you know. 1311 01:25:54,941 --> 01:25:59,371 Do something with it because you can do everything. You'll have the data there, 1312 01:25:59,371 --> 01:26:03,357 but then it becomes a discussion. Where do we want to fall in bands and 1313 01:26:03,357 --> 01:26:07,620 it's gonna get very subjective. Yeah, couple of unions already chomping up a 1314 01:26:07,620 --> 01:26:11,661 bit to sit down his table and kind of told him to hold off a little bit. 1315 01:26:12,061 --> 01:26:17,006 On goal setting, goal setting meetings. So in July the date that worked. 1316 01:26:17,006 --> 01:26:20,122 So I I don't think I've heard from everybody, 1317 01:26:20,122 --> 01:26:25,135 but from who I have the 28th worked for or for the folks I did hear from. 1318 01:26:25,135 --> 01:26:29,741 I don't think I've heard from Mike Morale. It's the 28th of Monday. 1319 01:26:30,141 --> 01:26:34,616 And then if we go into August, I know some folks were still firming up 1320 01:26:34,616 --> 01:26:39,154 their schedule a little bit, so we don't have any firm dates in August. 1321 01:26:39,154 --> 01:26:44,322 But does I know the 28th worked for Elena and for Jason and if I got it works for 1322 01:26:44,322 --> 01:26:45,141 you, Brendan. 1323 01:26:45,421 --> 01:26:48,555 28th All right. I will confirm with Mike Murali 'cause 1324 01:26:48,555 --> 01:26:51,745 he's not here. I think it's important that everybody is 1325 01:26:51,745 --> 01:26:54,821 at the goal setting meeting. Yep. So Monday the 28th. 1326 01:26:57,821 --> 01:27:00,021 I plan to be back in Massachusetts. 1327 01:27:01,221 --> 01:27:01,461 Yes. 1328 01:27:04,301 --> 01:27:11,421 IT So I had a meeting with with our IT vendor Worldband about. 1329 01:27:12,861 --> 01:27:18,802 And what we pay for about licenses, how we're consolidating the the license 1330 01:27:18,802 --> 01:27:22,632 periods to get everybody on the same same cycle. 1331 01:27:22,632 --> 01:27:26,462 So we have you know aligns with our fiscal year, 1332 01:27:26,462 --> 01:27:29,901 so we're not paying for duplicate services. 1333 01:27:30,621 --> 01:27:33,971 What are we paying for boards and committee members? 1334 01:27:33,971 --> 01:27:39,091 Do we have superfluous stuff for them as opposed to as opposed to staff and also 1335 01:27:39,091 --> 01:27:43,831 doing an inventory of our hardware so we can come up with A and so capital 1336 01:27:43,831 --> 01:27:47,181 planning can also weigh in on what the tech refresh. 1337 01:27:47,181 --> 01:27:50,932 Budget and cycle should be. So I thought that was a really productive 1338 01:27:50,932 --> 01:27:53,558 meeting. Katie and I both sat in on that and had 1339 01:27:53,558 --> 01:27:55,701 that meeting sat in. Awesome world band. 1340 01:27:58,781 --> 01:28:01,261 That's like we're hang breach because of the. 1341 01:28:03,341 --> 01:28:08,278 Relationship of the world bands owner being a former public official. 1342 01:28:08,278 --> 01:28:14,061 I got confirmation from ethics from their lawyer of the day that there's nothing. 1343 01:28:14,781 --> 01:28:20,288 That conflicts with any ethical provision or a forever ban on a former selected 1344 01:28:20,288 --> 01:28:25,589 person having a or selecting member at that point having a contract with the 1345 01:28:25,589 --> 01:28:29,581 town confirm there is not, but that person can no longer. 1346 01:28:29,981 --> 01:28:34,345 Be who puts together a proposal when we re procure these services because the 1347 01:28:34,345 --> 01:28:38,540 contracts not at the end of this year. So he has to have somebody else put 1348 01:28:38,540 --> 01:28:41,897 together the proposal. He cannot be the one who authors and 1349 01:28:41,897 --> 01:28:45,421 sophisticated proposal. They have joined a I'm not sure under. 1350 01:28:45,461 --> 01:28:48,429 Under which guys this was procured initially, 1351 01:28:48,429 --> 01:28:53,460 but they have current vendor has gone on to a state contract which would make 1352 01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:56,814 procurement a little bit quicker on re procurement, 1353 01:28:56,814 --> 01:28:59,781 but I don't think it's a state contract that. 1354 01:29:00,661 --> 01:29:04,298 Explicitly covers what they are providing to the town. 1355 01:29:04,298 --> 01:29:08,927 So they are trying to get on this other state contract. In any event, 1356 01:29:08,927 --> 01:29:11,969 we still need to solicit and get 3 proposals. 1357 01:29:11,969 --> 01:29:17,061 So if it's for this type of work, it's a contract under $250,000 and we use. 1358 01:29:17,341 --> 01:29:20,847 A state contract, we have to have a written scope and get 1359 01:29:20,847 --> 01:29:25,077 proposals from at least three vendors to be able to issue a contract. 1360 01:29:25,077 --> 01:29:29,852 So I've met with a couple other vendors about anticipated re procurement and I 1361 01:29:29,852 --> 01:29:31,181 would want to do this. 1362 01:29:32,541 --> 01:29:36,262 Fall winter time. So we have a proposal off of which to 1363 01:29:36,262 --> 01:29:40,714 build a fiscal 2027 budget. So whether it's the same vendor or new 1364 01:29:40,714 --> 01:29:43,770 one, there will be a new number for fiscal 27 1365 01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:48,221 because this contract only runs through fiscal 26. So that's good. 1366 01:29:48,981 --> 01:29:53,781 Right now what we have, well, you're gonna start with what we have. 1367 01:29:53,781 --> 01:29:58,158 Are you gonna expand? So I have asked other vendors for other 1368 01:29:58,158 --> 01:30:03,381 scopes from other communities of our size and say what don't I know what? 1369 01:30:03,901 --> 01:30:05,800 What? What are these things is no one else 1370 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,376 asking for that we are most purposely? And what other things should we be asking 1371 01:30:09,376 --> 01:30:11,981 for that other folks find useful? I mean kind of building. 1372 01:30:13,501 --> 01:30:18,093 So it's gonna be a big lift. I'll circulate it here to the board as 1373 01:30:18,093 --> 01:30:21,334 well, just because it's it's so central to what 1374 01:30:21,334 --> 01:30:25,453 we to what we do. Yeah, it's it's nowadays no different than 1375 01:30:25,453 --> 01:30:27,141 electricity or water, so. 1376 01:30:28,381 --> 01:30:33,048 And a lot of what they do is manage our licenses and then do 24/7 help desk 1377 01:30:33,048 --> 01:30:36,179 support. That's the that's the two main functions. 1378 01:30:36,179 --> 01:30:40,907 They're not our Internet service provider, they're not our phone provider or 1379 01:30:40,907 --> 01:30:43,301 anything like that. They are, they are. 1380 01:30:43,381 --> 01:30:46,341 In some sense, it's like our device provider though, 1381 01:30:46,341 --> 01:30:48,965 right. So we procure a lot of hardware through 1382 01:30:48,965 --> 01:30:51,534 them, which like are you separating that part 1383 01:30:51,534 --> 01:30:54,102 out? So I'm also concerned a little bit about 1384 01:30:54,102 --> 01:30:58,234 that because we're taking a $10, 000 threshold on a particular device and 1385 01:30:58,234 --> 01:31:02,701 we're not competitively procuring that we're procuring under a we're procuring. 1386 01:31:02,901 --> 01:31:07,658 Goods under a service contract. So I think best practice is often to 1387 01:31:07,658 --> 01:31:13,172 split those things apart and there are separate state contracts under which you 1388 01:31:13,172 --> 01:31:17,584 can procure those things. So thinking about how to manages that 1389 01:31:17,584 --> 01:31:20,341 bring the management back onto the town. 1390 01:31:20,661 --> 01:31:22,141 So I think I would have the. 1391 01:31:23,941 --> 01:31:27,847 The vendor manage the the inventory and the cycling and the upkeep, 1392 01:31:27,847 --> 01:31:32,500 but we don't necessarily have to purchase it through that vendor because I'm not 1393 01:31:32,500 --> 01:31:35,315 sure what markup is being being addressed there. 1394 01:31:35,315 --> 01:31:38,646 Really I want them to function as our IT director, right? 1395 01:31:38,646 --> 01:31:42,208 We're outsourcing our IT director and if we had one in house, 1396 01:31:42,208 --> 01:31:43,701 they would go out procure. 1397 01:31:43,781 --> 01:31:46,829 Stuff, but not necessarily through the same 1398 01:31:46,829 --> 01:31:51,402 person all the time. OK, yeah, there's certainly at least as many 1399 01:31:51,402 --> 01:31:53,341 questions as I have answers. 1400 01:31:54,581 --> 01:32:01,861 I met with dot twice this week, once about a small bridge replacement 1401 01:32:01,861 --> 01:32:06,021 program, the for Providence St. Culvert. 1402 01:32:07,461 --> 01:32:12,506 We had been meeting, you know, we appropriated the town appropriated 1403 01:32:12,506 --> 01:32:15,650 $300, 000 in free cash to to fund a design 1404 01:32:15,650 --> 01:32:19,159 contract. We then applied for a phase one small 1405 01:32:19,159 --> 01:32:22,741 bridge repair program grant to fund design work. 1406 01:32:22,821 --> 01:32:26,725 And said in our application, we've already said what we did and then 1407 01:32:26,725 --> 01:32:30,912 the state said this is an unusual order of things. Usually people coming, 1408 01:32:30,912 --> 01:32:33,685 coming to us looking for money before they have, 1409 01:32:33,685 --> 01:32:38,041 before they have anything going on. So we wanted to show the town at skin of 1410 01:32:38,041 --> 01:32:40,701 the game. We were serious about this and we're 1411 01:32:40,701 --> 01:32:42,341 doing it and that's what our. 1412 01:32:42,501 --> 01:32:46,609 Our consultants were on board with that. We talked to dot ahead of time and then 1413 01:32:46,609 --> 01:32:50,615 when it went up a couple levels because we got approved for the grant and then 1414 01:32:50,615 --> 01:32:54,671 they realized what they did and now I've waited on approval. So they're trying. 1415 01:32:54,671 --> 01:32:58,677 So what we'll end up doing is kind of fracturing the contract into task orders 1416 01:32:58,677 --> 01:33:01,821 and saying the state task order is going to pay for this 100. 1417 01:33:02,021 --> 01:33:05,559 $1000 that is yet to be done because it's not reimbursable. So we spent 74, 1418 01:33:05,559 --> 01:33:08,398 000 out of the 300, so they're not going to pay for anything 1419 01:33:08,398 --> 01:33:10,585 that we've done, but we're going to pick $100, 1420 01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:13,005 000 in the middle or at the end that they can fund. 1421 01:33:13,005 --> 01:33:16,263 It just takes a little bit more administrative lift than I would have 1422 01:33:16,263 --> 01:33:18,730 anticipated, but it's largely on the state to comply 1423 01:33:18,730 --> 01:33:21,941 with their reporting stuff. We're going to do the same thing anyway. 1424 01:33:22,021 --> 01:33:26,951 We likely will get that $100,000, which is less fell off because of the 1425 01:33:26,951 --> 01:33:31,743 order of operations or they were, they were confident that they could 1426 01:33:31,743 --> 01:33:32,701 figure it out. 1427 01:33:34,021 --> 01:33:36,273 I asked a lot of questions about phase two. 1428 01:33:36,273 --> 01:33:39,190 So phase two is the construction grant that is for $500, 1429 01:33:39,190 --> 01:33:42,413 000 and about our order of operations and how we should do it. 1430 01:33:42,413 --> 01:33:46,558 So I've got notes on that and I said I'm before we do a lick of appropriation or 1431 01:33:46,558 --> 01:33:48,810 debt authorization, we'll have this follow. 1432 01:33:48,810 --> 01:33:52,084 We'll have a conversation with them ahead of time because $100, 1433 01:33:52,084 --> 01:33:53,261 000 it's great to have. 1434 01:33:53,581 --> 01:33:56,161 $500, 000 for construction is kind of like 1435 01:33:56,161 --> 01:33:57,781 almost need to have for us. 1436 01:33:58,741 --> 01:34:02,063 So we'll be cognizant of it on the front end in ways that we were. 1437 01:34:02,063 --> 01:34:04,541 I thought we were, but we apparently weren't for. 1438 01:34:05,621 --> 01:34:09,561 There's music playing, right? Yeah, I hear it too. OK, 1439 01:34:09,561 --> 01:34:13,500 it's been going the whole time, so I'm just wondering. 1440 01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:19,158 The other dot meeting, Chief Kerzey, Chief Bangla and John Dudley were also on 1441 01:34:19,158 --> 01:34:23,599 it today. There is Mendon St. There's a state-owned bridge in 1442 01:34:23,599 --> 01:34:25,461 Northbridge that is being. 1443 01:34:25,461 --> 01:34:30,884 Being replaced and there will be detours for an indefinite amount of time. 1444 01:34:30,884 --> 01:34:36,523 They didn't even commit to it being done in a year, which which road is that? 1445 01:34:36,523 --> 01:34:40,282 Mendon St. So off. So Northridge, Northridge, yeah, 1446 01:34:40,282 --> 01:34:44,981 where comes in the North of there. So yet to work on the on the. 1447 01:34:45,301 --> 01:34:48,781 On the detail on the details of the. 1448 01:34:50,021 --> 01:34:56,477 I'm meeting with with our stakeholders to to go over it and we so it's going to be 1449 01:34:56,477 --> 01:35:02,310 disruptive and when we have more information on how disruptive it will be, 1450 01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:06,121 we're going to share that it starts on the 25th. 1451 01:35:06,121 --> 01:35:09,621 So it's it's most likely going to be Parker. 1452 01:35:09,621 --> 01:35:13,625 Yeah, East, right. Up to 16. It will be up big. Yeah. Yeah. 1453 01:35:13,625 --> 01:35:18,230 We were informed of this on Friday, Thursday or Friday. That's nice. 1454 01:35:18,230 --> 01:35:23,701 Is there anything that we can do to help keep the the pressure on to keep moving? 1455 01:35:24,701 --> 01:35:28,762 Yeah, and we can be the squeaky wheel, but it's it's not an army style. Yeah, 1456 01:35:28,762 --> 01:35:31,469 exactly. It's not other air controls. Yeah, I mean, 1457 01:35:31,469 --> 01:35:35,582 when we have lights at Hartford at East, it would be a lot easier to deal with 1458 01:35:35,582 --> 01:35:38,341 that type of traffic, but I'm sure Chief's ready to. 1459 01:35:39,301 --> 01:35:42,280 Yeah, we're meeting. I think I got to send an invite, 1460 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:46,693 but I think we're gonna meet tomorrow. What kind of communication are we gonna, 1461 01:35:46,693 --> 01:35:49,341 are we gonna take care of any communication or? 1462 01:35:50,501 --> 01:35:54,646 So we'll put out something on the website when we have, you know, 1463 01:35:54,646 --> 01:35:57,722 similar to how we do other kind of alerts. Yeah, 1464 01:35:57,722 --> 01:36:02,683 so I'll use the text my Gov system that I've used before to push stuff out and 1465 01:36:02,683 --> 01:36:07,141 say check the website for the detour. Use our Facebook, put it on the. 1466 01:36:07,221 --> 01:36:10,579 And in bulletin board group, I put it on our website. 1467 01:36:10,579 --> 01:36:14,807 So this is one of those many times where I wish we had a, you know, 1468 01:36:14,807 --> 01:36:18,661 weekly paper or something where we can do this kind of stuff. 1469 01:36:20,381 --> 01:36:25,520 And then the last thing on my list, also schedule an executive session for 1470 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:30,591 the first meeting in August where the Town Council will join is about the 1471 01:36:30,591 --> 01:36:34,223 resolution of the life estate at the Trask property. 1472 01:36:34,223 --> 01:36:36,141 So we received an appraisal. 1473 01:36:36,501 --> 01:36:40,981 Document praising the life estate and the market value of the property, 1474 01:36:40,981 --> 01:36:46,084 which you know will be a public document that we can share with the holder of the 1475 01:36:46,084 --> 01:36:49,506 life estate. But strategizing over procurement of real 1476 01:36:49,506 --> 01:36:52,741 property will hold an executive session of council. 1477 01:36:53,301 --> 01:36:59,066 Brief us on our options. The August 2nd meeting, August 6th, 1478 01:36:59,066 --> 01:37:02,941 the first meeting in August. Yeah, sorry. 1479 01:37:05,541 --> 01:37:09,185 All right. So thank you for those up. Yes, Sir. Before we go on, 1480 01:37:09,185 --> 01:37:11,988 do you have an update on the street schedule? No, 1481 01:37:11,988 --> 01:37:15,575 we didn't even get our debrief with the contractor over what's. 1482 01:37:15,575 --> 01:37:20,228 It seems like they stopped doing anything there. Yeah, so we got a bunch of trees. 1483 01:37:20,228 --> 01:37:22,021 That was just the two day thing. 1484 01:37:22,661 --> 01:37:26,848 I'll I'll endeavour to have one for the next regular meeting. 1485 01:37:26,848 --> 01:37:28,941 I haven't even seen a big save. 1486 01:37:30,021 --> 01:37:33,221 No, I don't think it's March. I mean, there are way ways. 1487 01:37:33,221 --> 01:37:37,194 I I said this a couple of times. They wanted to start in April and then 1488 01:37:37,194 --> 01:37:41,663 they want or they want to start June and they said it was the first of April and 1489 01:37:41,663 --> 01:37:45,414 then in May and they're like, well, we don't quite have a date yet. 1490 01:37:45,414 --> 01:37:49,221 So it's been, yeah, I'm just, I'm worried about for, you know, John. 1491 01:37:49,781 --> 01:37:54,458 On these plans that it's it's also delaying our our plans. 1492 01:37:54,458 --> 01:38:00,562 So yeah and we wanted to get it done before June 30th because the we're on a 1493 01:38:00,562 --> 01:38:04,368 collective bid with Milford for the excavation, 1494 01:38:04,368 --> 01:38:07,221 the milling and then for the paving. 1495 01:38:07,461 --> 01:38:11,809 And Milford extended the bid, which had the unilateral ability to 1496 01:38:11,809 --> 01:38:16,223 extend the bid for a year on one of those two, I can get with one, 1497 01:38:16,223 --> 01:38:20,043 but not the other and didn't notify us until May or June. 1498 01:38:20,043 --> 01:38:25,182 So we are having to go out and procure one of those services on a competitive 1499 01:38:25,182 --> 01:38:26,301 basis on our own. 1500 01:38:27,501 --> 01:38:31,573 So we're not ready to do it right now anyway because we don't have a a contract. 1501 01:38:31,573 --> 01:38:34,539 So really you want to do these bids in February and March, 1502 01:38:34,539 --> 01:38:38,209 so you have them ready to go July 1, but we were informed pretty late by 1503 01:38:38,209 --> 01:38:42,130 Milford as my understanding. So yeah, we wanted to line it up and get it done 1504 01:38:42,130 --> 01:38:44,341 before June 30th, so we had everybody, but. 1505 01:38:45,061 --> 01:38:51,238 Obviously could happen, but yeah, we're really cognizant of Highway being 1506 01:38:51,238 --> 01:38:53,741 able to tie in. I'm confident. 1507 01:38:53,781 --> 01:38:56,491 I guess at what point do we just say, I mean, 1508 01:38:56,491 --> 01:39:00,085 but we got to do it at least before the plants close, right? 1509 01:39:00,085 --> 01:39:03,501 Or otherwise we'll have to get done for another year, so. 1510 01:39:04,661 --> 01:39:07,901 And we were due. 1511 01:39:09,621 --> 01:39:14,091 We're told of an additional, you know, Chapter 90 funding additional 200 and 1512 01:39:14,091 --> 01:39:17,575 some $1000 to the bond bill allocated solely on road miles. 1513 01:39:17,575 --> 01:39:21,754 Bond bill has yet to materialize and with with the state budget passing 1514 01:39:21,754 --> 01:39:25,818 miraculously nearly on time, the governor veto has the line item veto 1515 01:39:25,818 --> 01:39:29,301 power and vetoed a lot of slide on spending in the face of. 1516 01:39:29,581 --> 01:39:33,981 Federal uncertainty. So we're now, whereas when the bill was filed in 1517 01:39:33,981 --> 01:39:37,124 January, we're pretty confident this was going to 1518 01:39:37,124 --> 01:39:40,519 go through. We're less confident in the supplement of 1519 01:39:40,519 --> 01:39:41,901 Chapter 920 right now. 1520 01:39:44,181 --> 01:39:47,861 And we're operating under the assumption that we want to have. 1521 01:39:48,741 --> 01:39:53,421 That's a big chunk of change, 200 and something $1000, yeah. 1522 01:39:57,261 --> 01:39:57,501 Right. 1523 01:39:58,981 --> 01:40:03,202 Anybody have anything else? All right, so next meeting. 1524 01:40:03,202 --> 01:40:09,306 So Jeremy had already talked about the goal setting meeting and he'll check with 1525 01:40:09,306 --> 01:40:12,622 Mr. Broly and see if he can make that first 1526 01:40:12,622 --> 01:40:16,541 date and then our next meetings in August would be. 1527 01:40:18,461 --> 01:40:22,541 Wednesday, August 6th and Wednesday, August 20th. Does that make sense? 1528 01:40:28,181 --> 01:40:34,669 I want to bring up one thing on future items that I got an e-mail about and 1529 01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:39,449 should be on here planned for the Mendon Senior Center, 1530 01:40:39,449 --> 01:40:43,461 what our what our goal is going forward. So I. 1531 01:40:43,541 --> 01:40:47,776 Have two emails from our consultants Abacus that I, you know, 1532 01:40:47,776 --> 01:40:53,104 I owe them a couple of things to be able for them to be able to move forward. 1533 01:40:53,104 --> 01:40:57,817 And because one of the proposals is adjacent to the current library, 1534 01:40:57,817 --> 01:40:59,661 I owe the library trustees. 1535 01:40:59,941 --> 01:41:04,309 A conversation before we, you know move forward with any real 1536 01:41:04,309 --> 01:41:09,522 efforts on what that looks like. So it will be we'll add it to the to the 1537 01:41:09,522 --> 01:41:15,227 future agenda items on what we discussing the advocates report and what the town 1538 01:41:15,227 --> 01:41:15,861 wants to. 1539 01:41:15,981 --> 01:41:20,756 What the board would like to present to Town Meeting as the future of the Do you 1540 01:41:20,756 --> 01:41:23,998 think we could do that in the first week of September? 1541 01:41:23,998 --> 01:41:28,773 I want to talk to Abacus first. I mean, they need to finish their reporting this 1542 01:41:28,773 --> 01:41:32,781 calendar year. I'm confident they will. Their hold up right now is. 1543 01:41:33,061 --> 01:41:36,573 They're holding up right now. I want to be really clear too. 1544 01:41:36,573 --> 01:41:40,890 This is like Abacus isn't holding stuff up. Like I need to get them stuff. 1545 01:41:40,890 --> 01:41:44,804 This is me getting them things. So I don't want to pin a date on it 1546 01:41:44,804 --> 01:41:47,221 because OK, they'll hit the previous ones. 1547 01:41:48,341 --> 01:41:52,141 All right. Then we will throw that on the next 1548 01:41:52,141 --> 01:41:58,365 upcoming events thing so that it pokes you in the eye every week. All right. 1549 01:41:58,365 --> 01:42:02,326 So yeah, the regular meeting time of the 1st and 1550 01:42:02,326 --> 01:42:05,963 3rd Wednesday. Everybody feel OK about that, 1551 01:42:05,963 --> 01:42:07,741 at least in this room. 1552 01:42:07,861 --> 01:42:13,522 All right. All right. So then I would be looking for a motion 1553 01:42:13,522 --> 01:42:16,261 to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. 1554 01:42:17,021 --> 01:42:17,381 2nd. 1555 01:42:18,581 --> 01:42:23,261 Discussion. All those in favor Cooter. Aye. 1556 01:42:23,701 --> 01:42:24,061 Rugose eye. 1557 01:42:24,661 --> 01:42:29,763 All right. Meeting adjourned at 8:12. Have a great night, everybody. 1558 01:42:29,763 --> 01:42:31,981 Thank you so much. Bye, Elena. 1559 01:42:31,941 --> 01:42:31,981 I. 1560 01:42:33,221 --> 01:42:34,621 See you soon. Have a good trip. 1561 01:42:35,181 --> 01:42:35,381 Thanks.